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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:55:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:57:43pm

shocked
I am shocked…

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 6:57:52pm

What does “mental health reform” mean?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:00:29pm

re: #3 Skip Intro

What does “mental health reform” mean?

Well, since “welfare reform” meant eliminating welfare, and “tax reform” means eliminating taxes, I assume “mental health reform” means eliminating mental health.

That’s just science.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:01:33pm

I don’t know how many more weeks like this I can take.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:02:40pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. Let this get out so his donations dry up.

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retired cynic  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:03:15pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I don’t know how many more weeks like this I can take.

Seconded. I have a lot I should be doing, and instead I hang on every lead, explore every article, try to educate myself on all of it. And then try to sleep. Isch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:05:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:06:03pm
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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:08:36pm
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plansbandc  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:09:22pm

The horribly disheartening thing about what’s happening is that absolutely NO ONE who has the power to do anything about it is willing to do anything about it.

And then I read that young people don’t give a shit about voting. I guess they want to live under a fascist dictator.

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gocart mozart  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:09:58pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:11:56pm

I can’t tell if we are the kid or the dad.

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Citizen K  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:13:30pm

re: #11 plansbandc

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:14:26pm

Texas digging up some of its past.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:16:38pm

re: #14 Citizen K

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I’m so sick of this nihilistic bs.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:17:12pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:19:52pm

re: #11 plansbandc

The horribly disheartening thing about what’s happening is that absolutely NO ONE who has the power to do anything about it is willing to do anything about it.

And then I read that young people don’t give a shit about voting. I guess they want to live under a fascist dictator.

They’re too busy keeping up with the Kardashians.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:20:33pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:21:25pm

Somebody had mentioned this morning that Carole Cadwalladr was going to be on Terry Gross today. Here’s a link to the story. Worth the time.

Carole Cadwalladr’s investigation into Cambridge Analytica’s role in Brexit led her to Russian connections and the Trump campaign. She says British investigators are working “closely with the FBI.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:21:51pm

It’s frustrating because goddamnit I care. And I honestly think many young people do but there’s this unrealistic expectation from young voters of public servants. It’s not this generation. It’s plain immaturity.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:21:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:22:47pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“I call this one Clarissa.” *laughs menacely*

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:22:58pm

re: #20 stpaulbear

Somebody had mentioned this morning that Carole Cadwalladr was going to be on Terry Gross today. Here’s a link to the story. Worth the time.

Somebody needs to explain to me why the Brits are going through with Brexit. Especially after what she’s found.

I. Do. Not. Get. It.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:23:39pm

re: #22 jaunte

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Don’t forget, she talked about how much she loves Jesus too.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:24:44pm
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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:24:52pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Don’t forget, she talked about how much she loves Jesus too.

Hence the invites to the National Prayer Breakfast.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:25:25pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Don’t forget, she talked about how much she loves Jesus too.

Yes, the icing on the cake cross.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:26:03pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

She’s a good girl, loves her mama
Loves Jesus and America too
She’s a good girl, who’s crazy ‘bout gunplay
Loves Russia and the NRA too

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:26:19pm

re: #27 MsJ

Hence the invites to the National Prayer Breakfast.

She played those idiots so easily. No wonder why it was so easy for Trump to endear himself to them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:26:57pm

lol…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:27:13pm

Relevant to the Jeanine Pirro appearance on The View:

A shouting match started with Pirro declaring, “You know what’s horrible? When people who shouldn’t be here end up murdering the children of American citizens!” and Goldberg shot back, “What is horrible is when the president of the United States whips up people to beat the hell out of people … Say goodbye. I’m done!”

Goldberg left the stage, but the fireworks went off again with the cameras off: Backstage when the two crossed paths, a source told us, “Jeanine tried telling her she’s fought for victims her whole life.” That’s when “Whoopi got in her face and said that they’ve known each other a long time, but still, ‘F-k you, get the f-k out of this building.’ Jeanine looked stunned.”

Another source told us, “Jeanine could have walked by her. There was one more segment to do. She could have walked by her easily, she put her finger in her face and said, ‘I’ve done more for abused women than you will ever do’ and that’s when Whoopi said, ‘You and I have never had a problem,’ before everything else was said.”

Pirro was also reportedly pissed that Ana Navarro would appear on the panel, and tried to get the producers to pull Navarro from the interview segment.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:27:19pm

Reload, I screwed up the verse

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:29:23pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol…

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Yeah that’s not glamorizing your pregnancy, Ms Abstinence, what a trashy family. At least the Pence kids seem fairly normal and not obsessed with fame.

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SteelPH  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:31:17pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s not glamorizing your pregnancy, Ms Abstinence, what a trashy family. At least the Pence kids seem fairly normal and not obsessed with fame.

Pence has kids? I thought he was completely anti-sex.
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:32:15pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:32:43pm

re: #35 SteelPH

Pence has kids? I thought he was completely anti-sex.
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They wore blindfolds. In a very dark bedroom.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:33:33pm

re: #35 SteelPH

Pence has kids? I thought he was completely anti-sex.
//

Mother’s secret…

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:34:08pm

re: #35 SteelPH

Pence has kids? I thought he was completely anti-sex.
//

It was Immaculate conception his wife (AKA Mommy) tells him.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:34:22pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Creepy dolls or skeletons? Either way, he’s one creepy looking dude. Ugly on the outside and inside.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:35:00pm
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Teukka  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:35:20pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Creepy dolls or skeletons? Either way, he’s one creepy looking dude. Ugly on the outside and inside.

Speaking of which, how many unsolved homicides are there in the greater D.C. area?
Just asking questions…

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:35:24pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol…

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Compare and contrast the photo RawStory used with this story (from Barstool’s blog)

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:37:27pm

re: #43 BeachDem

Bristol went on a diet and got some cosmetic surgery done.

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BeachDem  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:38:15pm

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Bristol went on a diet and got some cosmetic surgery done.

Ya think?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:39:29pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

It’s frustrating because goddamnit I care. And I honestly think many young people do but there’s this unrealistic expectation from young voters of public servants. It’s not this generation. It’s plain immaturity.

There is a big catch 22 here. They lack faith in their own ability to make change actually happen. But that kind of faith is the heart of the win.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:42:05pm

re: #44 wheat-dogg

Bristol went on a diet and got some cosmetic surgery done.

Yeah, but Fox needs to display her as if she were just preg’rs with her first child. What was she then 15 or something.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:42:52pm

re: #42 Teukka

Lol! Good question. How many since November 2016 to be specific?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:44:44pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

So I guess you don’t have to be a teen to be on “Teen Mom” because Bristol is 27. **shrugs**

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:45:45pm

re: #35 SteelPH

Pence has kids? I thought he was completely anti-sex.
//

He closes his eyes and thinks of England mother Russia. But he doesn’t enjoy it.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:46:59pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

So I guess you don’t have to be a teen to be on “Teen Mom” because Bristol is 27. **shrugs**

Teen Mom OG is a spinoff from the original where they come back on years later as adults.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:47:23pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:47:55pm

re: #52 Single-handed sailor

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ROFL!!!

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:47:57pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I don’t know how many more weeks like this I can take.

Well, frankly, strap in, boyo, this is what’s it’s going to be from here on out. This is the new normal. Everyone is laying their cards down and calling in their chits.

The Heads said it best:

“This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around.”

This is Life During Wartime.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:49:47pm

re: #52 Single-handed sailor

Honestly, if I can get Bari Weiss to have to give back a $10,000 prize, it would make my week.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:49:52pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:50:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:52:33pm

re: #57 JordanRules

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You know me, I’m a Steelers fan but I really respect the Packers organization from the front down.

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:54:47pm

re: #51 JordanRules

Teen Mom OG is a spinoff from the original where they come back on years later as adults.

Wait, someone is paying that poor, ill-bred woman money? Again?

Wasilla hillbillies. Grifters gotta grift.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:55:35pm

re: #18 MsJ

They’re too busy keeping up with the Kardashians.

Most of them aren’t being given a clue. Around here, the families they are in don’t pay attention to politics, so they don’t.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:56:52pm

re: #24 MsJ

Somebody needs to explain to me why the Brits are going through with Brexit. Especially after what she’s found.

I. Do. Not. Get. It.

Substitute Trump for Brexit.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:57:30pm

re: #60 Belafon

Most of them aren’t being given a clue. Around here, the families they are in don’t pay attention to politics, so they don’t.

Yup. Hella adults don’t vote too. And voter apathy among the youth is not novel at all.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 7:58:18pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:01:56pm

Good for RAICES for not accepting this donation. Their stance is correct.

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:02:08pm

re: #61 Belafon

Substitute Trump for Brexit.

For a certain class of people in England, Brexit will be advantageous. It will enable them to dismantle the NHS and other social programs that have kept inequality down to a relatively low boil in the UK. Brexit is their break-out moment, their ability to let their 1% freak flag fly high.

To save the economy, dontcha know.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:02:45pm

Frankly, I’m more assured now that this is the beginning of a zombie/plaque/end of humanity story.

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Scout  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:03:52pm

Forgive me if I’m just stating the painfully obvious, but doesn’t it seem like trump is inviting Putin in THE FALL so he can act tough just before the midterm elections?

Putin will be in on it. He will play the penitent scamp and let trump act like a big man in “the highly anticipated press conference.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:04:58pm

re: #67 Scout

Forgive me if I’m just stating the painfully obvious, but doesn’t it seem like trump is inviting Putin in THE FALL so he can act tough just before the midterm elections?

Putin will be in on it. He will play the penitent scamp and let trump act like a big man in “the highly anticipated press conference.”

I dunno. Putin’s got an ego like Trump. Is he going to like Trump scold him on camera even if for play?

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Skip Intro  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:07:21pm

re: #67 Scout

Forgive me if I’m just stating the painfully obvious, but doesn’t it seem like trump is inviting Putin in THE FALL so he can act tough just before the midterm elections?

Putin will be in on it. He will play the penitent scamp and let trump act like a big man in “the highly anticipated press conference.”

It’s a two for one deal. Vote GOP and you get BOTH Trump and Putin.

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jaunte  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:08:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:08:49pm

re: #70 jaunte

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I never thought I’d see an Italian administraton worse than Berlusconi who openly admires Mussolini.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:10:06pm

Have you all seen this:

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:10:58pm

Here’s another teenage drummer from Asia. Amira is from Malaysia and sometimes wears hijab when she performs.

Energy18 | Bright As The Sun | Official Song Asian Games 2018 | Drum Cover by Nur Amira Syahira

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:11:17pm

re: #67 Scout

Forgive me if I’m just stating the painfully obvious, but doesn’t it seem like trump is inviting Putin in THE FALL so he can act tough just before the midterm elections?

Putin will be in on it. He will play the penitent scamp and let trump act like a big man in “the highly anticipated press conference.”

In September, then we start talking about an October Surprise.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:14:28pm

re: #67 Scout

Forgive me if I’m just stating the painfully obvious, but doesn’t it seem like trump is inviting Putin in THE FALL so he can act tough just before the midterm elections?

Putin will be in on it. He will play the penitent scamp and let trump act like a big man in “the highly anticipated press conference.”

Nope. Trump voters LOVE that they are tight.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:15:05pm

re: #54 austin_blue

Well, frankly, strap in, boyo, this is what’s it’s going to be from here on out. This is the new normal. Everyone is laying their cards down and calling in their chits.

The Heads said it best:

“This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no fooling around.”

This is Life During Wartime.

The one thing these fascists are counting on is that people will give up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:18:01pm

re: #74 Belafon

In September, then we start talking about an October Surprise.

I keep hoping Muller will drop a bomb or two around say…October 26th.

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:23:26pm

re: #76 Belafon

The one thing these fascists are counting on is that people will give up.

Yes, they do. But we’ll never give in, never give up. Get out the vote and we can kick them in the balls.

Oh, and when is that Guess Coups Coming To Dinner? movie going to start? Maybe coming to the Tin Foil Hat Cinema near you, opening tomorrow?

Nope, sorry Alex, it’s just too fucking hot right now. No one wants to launch a revolution when it’s 103º outside. We’re busy buying food in the morning, hunkering down, and hydrating.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:23:29pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:28:16pm

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:28:49pm

re: #79 Ace-o-aces

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She’s what, 38 years old? I’m sorry, but that’s just pitiful. Why not have rodeo clowns following him and clapping? Why not have Tyrion Lannister doing it, sneering, doing a slow clap?

Oh, optics.

Use his adult child as a prop. So reality TV. Pitiful.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:30:42pm

re: #79 Ace-o-aces

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This is something you see in banana republics.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:35:30pm

re: #80 Ace-o-aces

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

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It puzzles me that they spell it “Трамп” and not “Трумп”.

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Jack Burton  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:36:16pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

This is something you see in banana republics.

If and when the sane adults get back in control, these “execs” must be called out and shamed for this shit over and over until they retire, and whatever their companies are selling, we shouldn’t be buying.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:36:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:37:11pm

re: #79 Ace-o-aces

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Whisky
Tango
Foxtrot!

This is right out of Mussolini’s playbook!

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SteelPH  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:37:44pm

re: #85 JordanRules

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Sharks too.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:37:44pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It puzzles me that they spell it “Трамп” and not “Трумп”.

Uhhhh, yeah….me too…because I’m totally able to understand Russian with out the computer translation…..yeah…….

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Jack Burton  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:37:49pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It puzzles me that they spell it “Трамп” and not “Трумп”.

Even they know hes garbage.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:39:49pm

Fucking Latin language nerds are the worst nerds.

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MsJ  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:41:00pm

re: #84 Jack Burton

If and when the sane adults get back in control, these “execs” must be called out and shamed for this shit over and over until they retire, and whatever their companies are selling, we shouldn’t be buying.

The guy who owns Home Depot is a RWNJ extraordinare and a giant asshole. He hates workers and would pay them a buck a day if he could. I won’t shop there because he is such a dick.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:41:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:43:27pm
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Jack Burton  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:43:34pm

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

I’m waiting for his strongly worded letter to NASA about the terms cislunar and translunar then.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:44:43pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:44:49pm

re: #84 Jack Burton

If and when the sane adults get back in control, these “execs” must be called out and shamed for this shit over and over until they retire, and whatever their companies are selling, we shouldn’t be buying.

Unfortunately—somebody posted the list in the last thread—it’s just about everybody. Including General Motors, which is rich after President Obama saved their asses when the GOP would have told them to go to hell, and the RWNJs who would become Trumporrhoids were boycotting them as “Government Motors”.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:44:50pm

re: #85 JordanRules

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Sharks? The truth? Putin?

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:45:04pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Hmmm…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:45:26pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Another reason to say goodbye to football.

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:45:31pm

re: #94 Jack Burton

I’m waiting for his strongly worded letter to NASA about the terms cislunar and translunar then.

Cheeky monkey.

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Jack Burton  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:46:39pm

re: #96 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Unfortunately—somebody posted the list in the last thread—it’s just about everybody. Including General Motors, which is rich after President Obama saved their asses when the GOP would have told them to go to hell, and the RWNJs who would become Trumporrhoids were boycotting them as “Government Motors”.

We can still make things embarrassing for them as individuals.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:47:43pm

re: #94 Jack Burton

I’m waiting for his strongly worded letter to NASA about the terms cislunar and translunar then.

He has to talk to South Africa about the Ciskei and Transkei first. Calling the Romans about Cisalpine Gaul is probably a fool’s errand as they don’t answer their phone any more.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:48:04pm

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

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William Lewis  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:48:54pm

re: #99 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another reason to say goodbye to football.

I said good bye to American Football several years ago between the spouse abuse, child abuse and concussion scandals. This just ensures I’ll never watch even the Packers again.

Thank goodness for the Beautiful Game.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:49:21pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:49:54pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I don’t know how many more weeks like this I can take.

Fucking brutal. My days off from work are spent taking a lot of naps. The barrage of bullshit is unrelenting.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:52:53pm

re: #105 JordanRules

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JFC! It’s time to retire those relics to museums! Wasn’t the Aurora Bridge incident enough to do that?

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:53:00pm

re: #105 JordanRules

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In 1999, a DUKW sank in Hot Springs, AR drowning 13 of 20 on board.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:53:08pm

re: #54 austin_blue

This is Life During Wartime.

Life During Wartime (Live)

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:53:17pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:53:55pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It puzzles me that they spell it “Трамп” and not “Трумп”.

The Chinese go for a phonetic rendering: 川普chuan pu. The first character means river, plain, or flatland, while the second means general (not the military kind)or popular. Not sure if there is a hidden meaning.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:54:15pm

Has Coats got his Pink Tweet yet?

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sagehen  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:54:35pm

re: #4 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Well, since “welfare reform” meant eliminating welfare, and “tax reform” means eliminating taxes, I assume “mental health reform” means eliminating mental health.

That’s just science.

“Pro and con are opposites
that fact is clearly seen.
If progress means to move forward
then what does congress mean?”
― Nipsey Russell

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:54:46pm

re: #104 William Lewis

I said good bye to American Football several years ago between the spouse abuse, child abuse and concussion scandals. This just ensures I’ll never watch even the Packers again.

Thank goodness for the Beautiful Game.

I was at Pitt the same time as Tony Dorsett. Breaks my heart to see him struggle just to talk thanks to the brain damage…

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:55:20pm

re: #110 Dave In Austin

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Just attending a meeting with the President to maximize shareholder value.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:55:36pm

re: #103 Aussie Apocalypse

If you don’t get it:

QI - No Such Thing As A Fish

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KGxvi  Jul 19, 2018 • 8:57:49pm

re: #113 sagehen

“Pro and con are opposites
that fact is clearly seen.
If progress means to move forward
then what does congress mean?”
― Nipsey Russell

I remember first hearing that joke (or a version of it) on a Carlin stand up special

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:06:01pm

You know, a a foreigner, I am starting to think you should give total control to A.M. from “I have no mouth and I must scream”.

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:06:42pm

Well, I’m off for the rack and Dog knows what fresh hells await us tomorrow.

Our personal fresh hell is 104-105º tomorrow, so food and entertainment will be acquired before noon and then we will hunker down and trust that the 20-year old AC unit survives.

First world paranoia.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:08:23pm

So this is being repoerted in South Korean media.
All our allies have hard decisions to make with regards to dealing with us.

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Bass Reeves  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:08:59pm

re: #54 austin_blue

This is Life During Wartime.

The wartime where we smash on comedians for making fun of foreign spies who successfully subverted our democracy?

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austin_blue  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:10:07pm

re: #118 Aussie Apocalypse

You know, a a foreigner, I am starting to think you should give total control to A.M. from “I have no mouth and I must scream”.

Geez, that’s apocalypse in a little tiny horrible world. No one deserves that Ellison hell.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:12:18pm

re: #122 austin_blue

At the very least AM doesn’t discriminate, also only 5 people out of 7+ billion have to suffer ( or Spoiler alert: one).

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:12:29pm

re: #119 austin_blue

Me as well… My fishing excursions on Lake Travis and Lake Austin start about 3am. And it’s still hot

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:12:56pm

re: #119 austin_blue

There’s an active fire 20 miles distant. I’ll start to panic when the glow of the flames are visible at night, of which tonight they are not, thank Ullr.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:13:28pm

re: #123 Aussie Apocalypse

At the very least AM doesn’t discriminate, also only 5 people out of 7+ billion have to suffer ( or Spoiler alert: one).

Edit: I did play the PC game where there is a happy ending available, so I’m a bit biased on hope.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:16:07pm

re: #107 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

JFC! It’s time to retire those relics to museums! Wasn’t the Aurora Bridge incident enough to do that?

These aren’t World War II DUKWs. Ride the Ducks, the company involved in the Branson incident, builds its own amphibians. These are based on the DUKW, a truck with a boat hull built around it, but allegedly “incorporate advances in marine design and safety.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:18:58pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

These aren’t World War II DUKWs. Ride the Ducks, the company involved in the Branson incident, builds its own amphibians. These are based on the DUKW, a truck with a boat hull built around it, but allegedly “incorporate advances in marine design and safety.”

Ah. I assumed it was another one of these—still in my Image Library from the Seattle incident:

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:23:03pm

re: #99 Joe Bacon 🌹

I think you might have misunderstoood; from the article:

The National Football League announced Thursday that it will freeze its new policy requiring players to remain standing during the national anthem.

The NFL said in a statement that it has been “working on a resolution to the anthem issue” with the NFL Players Association (NFLPA), one week after the association filed a grievance against the league over its controversial anthem policy.

“In order to allow this constructive dialogue to continue, we have come to a standstill agreement on the NFLPA’s grievance and on the NFL’s anthem policy,” the NFL’s statement reads. “No new rules relating to the anthem will be issued or enforced for the next several weeks while these confidential discussions are ongoing.”

“The NFL and NFLPA reflect the great values of America, which are repeatedly demonstrated by the many players doing extraordinary work in communities across our country to promote equality, fairness and justice,” the statement continued. “Our shared focus will remain on finding a solution to the anthem issue through mutual, good faith commitments, outside of litigation.”

If I’m reading that correctly, the policy requiring players to stand during the National Anthem has been temporarily suspended while negotiations regarding that policy are ongoing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:23:18pm

This is the picture I really wanted:

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:25:13pm

re: #56 Single-handed sailor

Which won’t do any god because the GOP won’t listen to the experts who tell them what to do.

“We’re too smart for science!” is the war cry of the modern barbarian.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:26:10pm

re: #128 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ah. I assumed it was another one of these—still in my Image Library from the Seattle incident:

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They look almost the same as the DUKW but they appear to be higher, and even less seaworthy.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:27:53pm

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

I think you might have misunderstoood; from the article:

If I’m reading that correctly, the policy requiring players to stand during the National Anthem has been temporarily suspended while negotiations regarding that policy are ongoing.

Joe was reacting to the story from earlier today about the Miami Dolphins instituting a team policy for protest punishment.
That new article is late breaking news and I don’t think we know yet how the teams are going to handle it.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:29:00pm

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

What will really blow this person’s mind is that there’s no complete connection between biological sex, gender identity, and sexual orientation.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:29:40pm

re: #133 JordanRules

Joe was reacting to the story from earlier today about the Miami Dolphins instituting a team policy for protest punishment.
That new article is late breaking news and I don’t think we know yet how the teams are going to handle it.

Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Off to work; back later. :)

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:32:26pm

re: #134 Belafon

What will really blow this person’s mind is that there’s no complete connection between biological sex, gender identity, and sexual orientation.

This! I learned so much watching, of all things, a Katie Couric hosted documentary called “Gender Revolution”. I knew I needed to educate myself more and it was a great initial resource.

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Belafon  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:32:47pm

The players on a team should announce before a game that they are kneeling to protest how our troops are being mistreated and then afterwards ask people why they accepted that display?

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:44:05pm

Thread…

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:49:04pm
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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:49:39pm

re: #138 JordanRules

I saved a screenshot in case.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 9:53:44pm

re: #139 Single-handed sailor

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“Thanks for your service, now go die quietly somewhere else, I’ve got a gold-plated yacht to buy.”

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:00:47pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:01:44pm

re: #142 Single-handed sailor

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One might almost say they shot themselves in the foot.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:04:18pm

More obstruction from Congress.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:06:09pm

re: #67 Scout

Forgive me if I’m just stating the painfully obvious, but doesn’t it seem like trump is inviting Putin in THE FALL so he can act tough just before the midterm elections?

Putin will be in on it. He will play the penitent scamp and let trump act like a big man in “the highly anticipated press conference.”

No, Putin never acts like anything other than the alpha male in public.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:11:01pm

re: #104 William Lewis

I said good bye to American Football several years ago between the spouse abuse, child abuse and concussion scandals. This just ensures I’ll never watch even the Packers again.

Thank goodness for the Beautiful Game.

That only has racism, sexism and fascism to deal with.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:11:32pm

re: #145 Big Beautiful Door

No, Putin never acts like anything other than the alpha male in public.

Even if that makes him look look like he has a Cocktail sausage in his briefs.

Trying Way TOO hard.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:12:47pm

re: #142 Single-handed sailor

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The number keeps rising.
Thanks Citizens United!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:14:30pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification.

Off to work; back later. :)

I’m still knocked off kilter folks. After work I worked out at the YMCA. In the locker room is yet another MAGAT who came over and said, “Don’t you wish those patriots would shoot that “N-WORD B-WORD” Maxine Waters in her office?

I looked at the cracker and said, “I’m Jewish. Take your goddamned pointy hood and stick it up your @$$.”

I’m at the point that I’m not going to take any more of this ignorant KKKraKKKer shit.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:14:59pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:16:00pm

re: #150 JordanRules

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I got a feeling that there’s a lot of kinky stuff that hasn’t come out about “Gym Neighbors”!

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:16:17pm

re: #150 JordanRules

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Dems: “We need to combat efforts to hack our election rolls and machines.”

Reps: “Yes, we need voter ID.”

Dems: “How does that help prevent a future attack on our elections?”

Reps: “YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT SECURING OUR ELECTIONS!!!!”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:17:03pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

Dems: “We need to combat efforts to hack our election rolls and machines.”

Reps: “Yes, we need voter ID.”

Dems: “How does that help prevent a future attack on our elections?”

Reps: “YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT SECURING OUR ELECTIONS!!!!”

What RepubliKKKlans are really saying is that they don’t want colored people to vote.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:17:12pm

re: #152 Targetpractice

Dems: “We need to combat efforts to hack our election rolls and machines.”

Reps: “Yes, we need voter ID.”

Dems: “How does that help prevent a future attack on our elections?”

Reps: “YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT SECURING OUR ELECTIONS!!!!”

They only care about securing elections from Those People. Russians are white, so they’re allowed to vote as many times as they want.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:17:28pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:22:48pm

When you sell out and rob blind the future generation, the future generation starts drinking…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:28:20pm

Another video from Nur Amira Syamira. Her audition for a Malaysian talent show at age 12 or 13. She’s a natural born entertainer. Taught herself to play drums, beginning at age 8, from YT videos, then started lessons at age 10 or so. Click the CC button for subtitles.

Ceria All Stars 2015 Audition - Nur Amira Syahira

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:32:08pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

When you sell out and rob blind the future generation, the future generation starts drinking…

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A sacrifice the GOP was willing to make in order to obstruct President Obama, then blame him for nothing getting done.

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Targetpractice  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:34:50pm

re: #156 Eclectic Cyborg

When you sell out and rob blind the future generation, the future generation starts drinking…

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Sell out the next gen, then bitch aloud that they’re a bunch of lazy drunks who don’t deserve a say in the running of the country.

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SteelPH  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:35:57pm

re: #159 Targetpractice

Sell out the next gen, then bitch aloud that they’re a bunch of lazy drunks who don’t deserve a say in the running of the country.

What’s the term for that kind of fuckery? Self-fulfilling prophecy?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:42:05pm

re: #121 Bass Reeves

The wartime where we smash on comedians for making fun of foreign spies who successfully subverted our democracy?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:43:01pm

re: #160 SteelPH

What’s the term for that kind of fuckery? Self-fulfilling prophecy?

It’s a 21st Century version of Gibbon’s Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:46:35pm

I feel like it starting to be the time for IC to put some traceable info into PDBs to see if it’s leaked and has consequences in Russia. Not jeopardizing lives, just in chatter, etc.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:47:45pm

Lou Stopped the clock

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:49:15pm

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

I feel like it starting to be the time for IC to put some traceable info into PDBs to see if it’s leaked and has consequences in Russia. Not jeopardizing lives, just in chatter, etc.

I honestly hoped and assumed that was happening since he starting getting PDBs after the election. But I don’t know. Everything is chaotic for this reason. We can’t get a good read on shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:52:45pm

re: #165 JordanRules

I honestly hoped and assumed that was happening since he starting getting PDBs after the election. But I don’t know. Everything is chaotic for this reason. We can’t get a good read on shit.

There’s also the problem, I hear, that he dismisses the briefings most days. But maybe Jared?

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:53:51pm

Now The Right wants to deport AMERICANS from latino heritage, by stripping them of their birthright citizenship.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:54:36pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:55:23pm

re: #167 DodgerFan1988

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Now The Right wants to deport AMERICANS from latino heritage, by stripping them of their birthright citizenship.

Full ethnic cleansing is their goal.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:58:46pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 10:59:34pm

re: #166 Barefoot Grin

There’s also the problem, I hear, that he dismisses the briefings most days. But maybe Jared?

Right. There is that, but I’d think we have enough human intel on him that we should know how to place it. Couch it in a compliment or target his vulnerabilities. Add a damn picture with some symbols that will grab him.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:11:30pm

Shit……

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:16:08pm

These “walkaway” shits/bots are pathetic.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:16:38pm
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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:18:39pm

re: #173 Aussie Apocalypse

These “walkaway” shits/bots are pathetic.

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That reply is perfection.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:19:42pm

re: #175 JordanRules

Thanks, I try.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:24:33pm

re: #176 Aussie Apocalypse

Followed

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:26:26pm

re: #177 Dave In Austin

Thanks, followed you in return.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:37:30pm

Click on the tweet and hit translate.

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Lupin  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:38:33pm

I don’t know if my little French village is characteristic of anything or merely anecdotal (think of it as rural Kentucky, if you will), but we have a bimonthly café meeting here where a dozen to 20 (varying) folks gather to talk about the state of the world, as it were, and this week, “what the f*** is wrong with Americans?” was on everyone’s lips.

Being “the american” in the group, I am de facto the spokesman who has to explain all things US, starting with the fact that there is no such thing as “Americans” as a cohesive unit right now; there are, for argument’s sake, nazis and non-nazis. (We also have people referring to “The Germans” or “The British” on divisive issues so this is hardly unique.)

So keep up the very public anti-Trump, anti-Putin demonstrations: the images are broadcast on TV, even here, and it helps me make the case America is far from being solidly behind Trump, and not just the ‘usual suspects’ from the left. Seriously, keep them coming.

The other thing people here don’t know/grasp is that Hillary got 3 million votes more, etc, etc. If I had a euro for every instance I have had to explain about the electoral college, I could buy several rounds of drinks. OK, that, you can’t fix. (Which is too bad.) But here, Presidential elections average 80% voters’ participation, so the other issue that comes up, right after it, is indignation when they find out that only about 60% of Americans voted in 2016, and that’s harder to explain.

(This issue often dovetails with Brexit where that referendum got 72% participation and that was/is condemned as too low. But I digress.)

So whatever efforts you can make to motivate, especially young people, to show up to the polls and vote, win or lose, will have an impact. Right now, having to shrug when conceding that 40% of voters simply didn’t care enough is hard. It helps foster the ill-conceived, simplistic notion “Americans = Nazis” (Like the “Nixon = Swastika” placards of my youth during the Vietnam era).

My purpose is not to irritate all the good folks here who are indeed “trying to fix it”, as someone aptly put it yesterday, but to share this bit of local views from abroad and convey the notion that the eyes if the world are on you.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:38:42pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Click on Torshin’s tweet and hit translate.

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teleskiguy  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:43:25pm

re: #180 Lupin

We’re a bunch of fuckin’ yokel gun totin’ rednecks to most of the first world. And they’re partly right.

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Lupin  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:50:46pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

We’re a bunch of fuckin’ yokel gun totin’ rednecks to most of the first world. And they’re partly right.

Actually, I can honestly tell you that this is emphatically NOT the case here. (I don’t think they even know what the NRA is.) The oversimplistic cartoon image of the US is two-fold: one has to do with money & power (respect mixed with a tinge of ear), the other with science, super-science even (also respect/fear).

One of the interesting thing after Katrina was that most folks here expected the US Gov to send, I don’t know, super-robots-drones or something, massive air power, I don’t know, the stuff of big Hollywood films, to take care of NOLA. When nothing of the sort materialized, the folks here were stunned. Katrina did more to lower the US’s image in the eyes of the folks here than Bush, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, combined.

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JordanRules  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:54:37pm

re: #183 Lupin

Actually, I can honestly tell you that this is emphatically NOT the case here. (I don’t think they even know what the NRA is.) The oversimplistic cartoon image of the US is two-fold: one has to do with money & power (respect mixed with a tinge of ear), the other with science, super-science even (also respect/fear).

One of the interesting thing after Katrina was that most folks here expected the US Gov to send, I don’t know, super-robots-drones or something, massive air power, I don’t know, the stuff of big Hollywood films, to take care of NOLA. When nothing of the sort materialized, the folks here were stunned. Katrina did more to lower the US’s image in the eyes of the folks here than Bush, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, combined.

Katrina broke me like nothing else, for so many reasons.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:56:38pm

re: #183 Lupin

Actually, I can honestly tell you that this is emphatically NOT the case here. (I don’t think they even know what the NRA is.) The oversimplistic cartoon image of the US is two-fold: one has to do with money & power (respect mixed with a tinge of ear), the other with science, super-science even (also respect/fear).

One of the interesting thing after Katrina was that most folks here expected the US Gov to send, I don’t know, super-robots-drones or something, massive air power, I don’t know, the stuff of big Hollywood films, to take care of NOLA. When nothing of the sort materialized, the folks here were stunned. Katrina did more to lower the US’s image in the eyes of the folks here than Bush, Iraq, Abu Ghraib, combined.

The Katrina response and the much worse Maria “response” showed the world that, in some ways, the USA is still a developing country. It’s not because we don’t have the money (we do). We don’t have the political will to devote our vast resources toward helping poor people, and people of color. Most politicians chase votes from groups that will donate to their elections. All others are non-persons.

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Lupin  Jul 19, 2018 • 11:59:59pm

re: #185 wheat-dogg

The Katrina response and the much worse Maria “response” showed the world that, in some ways, the USA is still a developing country. It’s not because we don’t have the money (we do). We don’t have the political will to devote our vast resources toward helping poor people, and people of color. Most politicians chase votes from groups that will donate to their elections. All others are non-persons.

I entirely agree with you, but people here saw it more as “they can’t do it” because the notion of “they could but won’t do it” was beyond their ability to conceive (just as much as, say, the French Government abandoning, say, Bordeaux after a hurricane; literally inconceivable).

So they saw it as a sign of weakness, as in “America isn’t so powerful after all.” Not endorsing, just explaining.

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:01:59am

Sadly for the most part the plight of Puerto Rico hasn’t made much of an impact on French media. I don’t think it’s deliberate; it’s the “drop the dead donkey” effect.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:04:42am

re: #187 Lupin

Sadly for the most part the plight of Puerto Rico hasn’t made much of an impact on French media. I don’t think it’s deliberate; it’s the “drop the dead donkey” effect.

Half of Americans don’t realize Puerto Rico is American territory full of American citizens; it wouldn’t surprise me at all if French people were even less aware. (plus, of course, you people have a longstanding cultural/linguistic connection to New Orleans that probably makes it more worth your notice than Portland would be.)

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:10:08am

re: #188 sagehen

Half of Americans don’t realize Puerto Rico is American territory full of American citizens; it wouldn’t surprise me at all if French people were even less aware. (plus, of course, you people have a longstanding cultural/linguistic connection to New Orleans that probably makes it more worth your notice than Portland would be.)

You’re totally right, I think.

The great Britcom DROP THE DEAD DONKEY (which I loved) was reportedly supposed to be entitled DEAD BELGIANS DON’T COUNT which is funnier but darker — yet correct.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:10:33am

re: #186 Lupin

I entirely agree with you, but people here saw it more as “they can’t do it” because the notion of “they could but won’t do it” was beyond their ability to conceive (just as much as, say, the French Government abandoning, say, Bordeaux after a hurricane; literally inconceivable).

So they saw it as a sign of weakness, as in “America isn’t so powerful after all.” Not endorsing, just explaining.

They are not alone in being bewildered. The federal response to both disasters was appalling, as if neither NOLA nor PR were US territories. But you can bet if similar disasters happened to the ritzy parts of Florida or of the northeastern states, the feds would be tripping over their own feet they’d be in such a hurry to help.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:11:24am

re: #183 Lupin

Something like Katrina has already happened in Puerto Rico under Fuckface Von Clownstick’s “leadership.” If an earthquake devastates any of the communities along the San Andreas Fault while he’s in office, he’d probably tweet out that he was glad that California got hit with an earthquake. He is an evil leader.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:14:33am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

They are not alone in being bewildered. The federal response to both disasters was appalling, as if neither NOLA nor PR were US territories. But you can bet if similar disasters happened to the ritzy parts of Florida or of the northeastern states, the feds would be tripping over their own feet they’d be in such a hurry to help.

Hurricane Sandy was a pretty damn big NY/NJ disaster; the Republican-controlled Congress didn’t want to do shit for us. Because they’re Republicans and we’re not.

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SteelPH  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:16:28am

re: #192 sagehen

Hurricane Sandy was a pretty damn big NY/NJ disaster; the Republican-controlled Congress didn’t want to do shit for us. Because they’re Republicans and we’re not.

They barely wanted to help out Texas. They just don’t care about people, period.

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:17:26am

re: #191 teleskiguy

Something like Katrina has already happened in Puerto Rico under Fuckface Von Clownstick’s “leadership.” If an earthquake devastates any of the communities along the San Andreas Fault while he’s in office, he’d probably tweet out that he was glad that California got hit with an earthquake. He is an evil leader.

It’s interesting you bring this up. My wife and I lived in LA (last in Encino) from 1978 to 2004. The city went through the Northridge quake of 94 with flying colors. Reconstruction was swift, FEMA’s assistance was superb.

But in 2004 when we decided to leave, right after GWB’s election, one of the factors we considered was the ability if not the will of the US government to help us in case of a massive terrorist attack (say, on the port of LA) or the “big one”. We no longer felt confident than we could count on such government help, and that played a part in our decision to leave.

Then less than a year later, Katrina happened…

(I posted diaries on DKos at the time under the title of “Lupin Exodus”; I bet search engines might still turn it up.)

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:21:55am

Interestingly, Montenegro had incurred Putin’s wrath before, which I didn’t know, and was/is on the Russians’ sh*t list.

The Guardian

By saying what he said, Trump effected another (albeit small) piece of Putin’s agenda.

Миссия выполнена [Mission accomplished]!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:22:43am

re: #192 sagehen

Hurricane Sandy was a pretty damn big NY/NJ disaster; the Republican-controlled Congress didn’t want to do shit for us. Because they’re Republicans and we’re not.

Yeah, I forgot all about Sandy. More evidence of Republican malfeasance.

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:23:24am

Wesley Clark, a retired US army general and former NATO supreme allied commander, went further, voicing concerns that Trump’s remarks could destabilize the traditionally volatile Balkan region. “Worrying to hear Trump use Russian talking points with Tucker Carlson, about Montenegro,” he said in a tweet referring to Trump’s Fox News interviewer. “Montenegro has been under continuous pressure by Russia for more than a decade. Trump’s comments weaken NATO, give Russia a license to cause trouble and thereby actually increase the risks of renewed conflict in the Balkans.”

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:25:14am

re: #197 Lupin

Yeah. They didn’t just randomly invoke Montenegro on Fox News. That was by design and dangerous.

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:27:34am

re: #198 JordanRules

Yeah. They didn’t just randomly invoke Montenegro on Fox News. That was by design and dangerous.

There is nothing they wont f*ck up!

It’s like a malignant tumor.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:28:32am

re: #198 JordanRules

Yeah. They didn’t just randomly invoke Montenegro on Fox News. That was by design and dangerous.

re: #199 Lupin

There is nothing they wont f*ck up!

It’s like a malignant tumor.

Ayup. And Ayup.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:33:43am
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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:41:40am
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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:55:34am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:19:29am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:21:51am
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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:25:27am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

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Cue the screams of “I’M NEVER WATCHING FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN!!!!”

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:31:13am

Mary Hopkin - Those Were The Days - 1968

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:32:08am

Sweden forest fire status Friday morning local:
o 52 active fires.
o 13 VMA’s (Important Public Announcements) active.
o Worst hit are forest areas in Gävleborg, Dalarna and Jämtland counties.
o In many places, people have been forced to evacuate from their homes.
o Two Italian firebombers have been on scene in Härjedalen and Ljusdal Wednesday and Thursday.
o Two French firebombers arrived in Sweden Thursday. The plan is that they should be begin work Friday AM.
o Norwegian and Danish firefighters are involved, and can also get support from helicopters from Lithuania and Germany.
o In many places the situation is dire with rescue services and other volunteers who during several days have tried to fight the fires. 500 volunteers from the defence forces have returned from vacation to participate in fighting the fire.
o SMHI (Swedish NOAA) warns that the risk of forest- and wildfires is very high or extremely high in almost the entire country.
o Prohibition of open fire in almost the entire country.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:37:43am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:19:30am

re: #209 Single-handed sailor

I see Trump is worried that his son might have to go and fight in Montenegro

Trump is counting on his supporters and Fox viewers not having a clue about Montenegro and ohmigod, the thought of a mutual defense pact with other countries is so not-America-First…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:21:11am

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

I feel like it starting to be the time for IC to put some traceable info into PDBs to see if it’s leaked and has consequences in Russia. Not jeopardizing lives, just in chatter, etc.

Yeah, put some bogus info into one of the PDBs and see what the Russians do. If they act on the bogus intel, then obviously, POTUS is the source.

We fried the Rosenbergs for less.

Just sayin’…….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:22:16am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, put some bogus info into one of the PDBs and see what the Russians do. If they act on the bogus intel, then obviously, POTUS is the source.

We fried the Rosenbergs for less.

Just sayin’…….

Those briefings have to consist of no more than ten bullet points on one page…hard to hide things in there…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:26:12am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Those briefings have to consist of no more than ten bullet points on one page…hard to hide things in there…

“Hey, you know what, Mr. President? You were right about Montenegro; we have some SIGINT, confirmed by HUMINT, that Montenegro’s secret service agency is planning some kind of covert op against the Russian Ambassador there. We don’t know what it is, though, but it seems pretty damn serious.”

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:34:12am

...

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:35:32am

As if trade wars weren’t enough, Trump is now planning a currency war:

The guardian

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:36:14am

re: #215 Lupin

As if trade wars weren’t enough, Trump is now planning a currency war:

The guardian

Trump’s going for the Bane strategy, I see.

“Crashing this economy……with no survivors!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:37:32am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

Trump’s going for the Bane strategy, I see.

“Crashing this economy……with no survivors!”

The only Trump supporters whom I could at least understand (even if I did not agree with) were the ones who insisted that since the World Economy was going to crash and burn some day soon anyways, then just elect Trump to speed up the process and get it over with so we can start recovering.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:47:42am

re: #215 Lupin

As if trade wars weren’t enough, Trump is now planning a currency war:

The guardian

Bitcoin looking better every day

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:53:36am

China has been adjusting the exchange rate to keep the yuan “cheap” against the dollar, so if Trump really wants a weak dollar, China may play cat-and-mouse with him until one or the other cries uncle.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:54:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:28:08am

A passing of note; Shinobu Hashimoto, the screenplay writer of The Seven Samurai and Rashomon, has died at the age of 100.

Screenwriter Shinobu Hashimoto, who wrote for some of the most iconic films in Japanese history, including The Seven Samurai and Rashomon from director Akira Kurosawa, has died. He was 100.

Hashimoto died Thursday at his home in Tokyo from pneumonia, Japanese public broadcaster NHK reported.

Hashimoto wrote or co-wrote more than 70 screenplays, including many of Kurosawa’s classics, also including The Hidden Fortress (1958). He directed three films as well, including I Want to Be a Shellfish (1959), and carried on as a screenwriter until suffering a stroke in his 90s.

hollywoodreporter.com

Absolute legend. RIP.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:52:48am

Putin’s Poodle……

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:56:27am

re: #222 Dave In Austin

I didn’t fight for my country so that we could have a clown elected President & commit treason against us. What an embarrassingly sad day in US history. The UK is calling him Putin’s Poodle. Even Republicans are finally done

Trump is still polling well with Republicans, but I am going to go out on a limb and venture that a good share of those questioned are starting to lose their enthusiasm for Trump, they are just not the sort of people who would admit such a thing even to an anonymous pollster.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:59:02am

re: #222 Dave In Austin

I object to that description of Tump. Poodles are quite bright…

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:17:17am

Captain she is breaking up! Elon Musk’s bizarre tweets are raising red flags on Wall Street

The Munster letter on July 17 wasn’t the only red flag raised about Musk. That, we look back in time, goes to:

Musk’s calling in a request to Sierra Club executive director Michael Brune to make public the $6 million-plus in previously anonymous donations that Musk made to the environmental group. His purpose, as reported by Bloomberg, was to deflect flak for donating $38,900 to a pro-Republican PAC last quarter.

Musk got around to apologizing to the “pedo guy” on Wednesday, acknowledging the rescuer’s criticism of the mini-submarine Musk sent to assist in the soccer team’s rescue does “not justify my actions against him.” Musk’s sincerity was suspect, however, as the “pedo guy” had already threatened to sue.

Musk’s 22.2 million Twitter followers give the entrepreneur a bully pulpit that he ill-advisedly used this month to dress down a blog writer Linette Lopez. On July 5, he tweeted, “@lopezlinette has published several false articles about Tesla, including a doozy where she claimed Tesla scrapped more batteries than our total S,X &3 production number, which is physically impossible.”

He also accused the Business Insider writer of being motivated by short-seller Jim Chanos, whom Musk called “Tesla’s most prominent short-seller.” “Her articles print Chanos’ view verbatim,” he added. “This is not journalism.”

Musk doesn’t limit his wrath to individual journalists, which is why on May 23 he said he’d take on the entire industry by developing a fake news/honest journalism scorecard. “Going to create a site where the public can rate the core truth of any article & track the credibility score over time of each journalist, editor & publication,” he tweeted. “Thinking of calling it Pravda…”
“The holier-than-thou hypocrisy of big media companies who lay claim to the truth, but publish only enough to sugarcoat the lie, is why the public no longer respects them,” he continued.

Many believe the cloud over Musk’s head took shape during a May 2 analyst earnings call. “Boring, bonehead questions are not cool,” he said in response to a question about Tesla’s projected capital expenditures. “These questions are so dry. They’re killing me.”

Meth is a heluva drug.

nypost.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:18:37am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is still polling well with Republicans, but I am going to go out on a limb and venture that a good share of those questioned are starting to lose their enthusiasm for Trump, they are just not the sort of people who would admit such a thing even to an anonymous pollster.

For some of them, at least, it’s dawning on them that they’ve bought a pig in a poke.

It’s analogous to cult members who’ve managed to break free of the spell - the hardest thing they’ll ever have to do is admit to themselves how badly misled they were. And such an admission won’t come easy.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:36:52am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

For some of them, at least, it’s dawning on them that they’ve bought a pig in a poke.

It’s analogous to cult members who’ve managed to break free of the spell - the hardest thing they’ll ever have to do is admit to themselves how badly misled they were. And such an admission won’t come easy.

And they do finally, their regret will turn into anger.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:40:04am

re: #227 wheat-dogg

And anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering, to paraphrase Yoda.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:27:10am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

For some of them, at least, it’s dawning on them that they’ve bought a pig in a poke.

It’s analogous to cult members who’ve managed to break free of the spell - the hardest thing they’ll ever have to do is admit to themselves how badly misled they were. And such an admission won’t come easy.

I think that the best thing we can hope for is that his former supporters will not turn out to the polls in such strong numbers, and that DT will have had the counter-effect of motivating others to get out and vote against him.

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jeffreyw  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:28:48am

Imgur


Good morning!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:42:24am

Good morning
And, well doesn’t this just fuck all?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:47:36am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Father of Parkland survivors shot to death in robbery

How many seconds until the first “Had he been properly armed…” comments?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:59:48am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

How many seconds until the first “Had he been properly armed…” comments?

Oh, it’s in the article’s comments. I can’t bear to look at the twitter replies

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:01:02am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:05:27am

re: #234 Belafon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:06:01am

re: #234 Belafon

“Let’s not forget that [Russian’s meddling] didn’t happen under President Trump’s watch [but] under the Obama administration,” Sanders said

And they did their best to counter it, despite GOP objections.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:11:34am

re: #234 Belafon

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That’s really weak Sarah but you know that because your boss is guilty as shit and so are you and your dad for continuing to spread lies to cover it up. Obama tried to announce it to the public and McConnell scumbag like you and Don threatened to call it a voting suppression effort. But hey cry some more about why even in downstate Virginia no one wants to serve you.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:12:34am

re: #233 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh, it’s in the article’s comments. I can’t bear to look at the twitter replies

People suck sometimes don’t they? Difficulty is finding which ones don’t.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:16:29am
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BlueGrl21  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:18:05am

re: #15 jaunte

Texas digging up some of its past.

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Very late to the party…this is pretty close to where I live. Prison farm, used slave labor first, then “convicts.”

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:18:28am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Trump’s up to his eyeballs in Russian complicity. I’ve shorthanded this as CCCP (yeah, I know the Soviets are gone, but Putin remains - ergo Compromised and Complicit Cronies for or with Putin).

I know that’ll take some time to catch on, but it’s no longer shocking to find that Putin’s efforts were so elegant in their simplicity and cost-effective by targeting GOPers whose intentions were always about party over nation.

They didn’t care where the money came from - doubly true for Trump.
They didn’t care where the support came from - doubly for Trump.

They wanted power. Absolute power.

Trump’s an authoritarian and he got his wish. McConnell and Ryan got theirs - and the one thing stopping all of them is that their incompetence is total, and that they couldn’t get out of their own way. That’s stopped some of the damage (like to Obamacare) from being absolute.

At the same time, McConnell’s used all this to pack the courts with extremists, Trump’s used this to gut EPA and Interior Departments, and his policy statements are destroying American national security and foreign policy in one fell swoop.

Trump loves to talk about a witch hunt, and that’s a great soundbite for his know nothing GOP base, but the reality is that he and the rest of the GOP knows Mueller and the FBI and other intel agencies of the US are very good at what they do, and they all know that Trump and the GOP are CCCP. That’s why they want the investigations to end.

Not because of a witch hunt.

But because Mueller is so very good at his job. Because Strzok was good at his. Because the FBI is generally good at theirs as is the intel agencies.

That the GOP and Trump refuse to treat Russia as a mortal threat and ongoing threat due to their cyberwarfare/psyops against the US that started before the 2016 election and continues to this day shows how CCCP they are and are blind to the threat - knowing that they are continuing beneficiaries of that interference.

Exposing the interference would also mean exposing all too many GOPers to criminal prosecution for being CCCP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:18:59am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

That’s really weak Sarah but you know that because your boss is guilty as shit and so are you and your dad for continuing to spread lies to cover it up. Obama tried to announce it to the public and McConnell scumbag like you and Don threatened to call it a voting suppression effort. But hey cry some more about why even in downstate Virginia no one wants to serve you.

The Russian really had us snookered; had Obama pressed the point, it would have been shouted down as partisan politicking…so they let it slide and, well…this is what we got…

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:24:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:27:10am

re: #243 MsJ

UPDATED: NFL suspends new anthem rules, working with players to find ‘solution to the anthem issue’

anthem never used to be an issue because player did not come out until after the anthem

then US Military wanted more patriotic spectacle and we got a special form of patriotism in the form of Free Expression and Civil Disobedience…

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:27:14am

Fuck the NFL and owners who treat their players like chattel.

I stopped watching them after learning about how the league buried details of how CTE was killing players and refused to warn them about it.

But the idiocy around the taking the knee protests is a whole different level of crazy.

Miami decided that they’d fine/suspend players who took a knee for four games?!

That’s more than the league punishes players who engage in criminal assaults. It’s similar to when players engage in PED violations. It’s asinine.

And it’s another reason never to watch another game.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:29:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:31:28am

moron’s morning tv briefing:

he is so full of shit

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:33:05am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron’s morning tv briefing:

he is so full of shit

Farmers, Inc (tm), the company that will buy up all the failing family farms, will win.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:33:52am

jeebus

he really hasn’t got the first clue about anything

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Mike Lamb  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:34:27am

And now going after the Fed even more explicitly. Great.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:35:31am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asked if it’s in his “mind” that he can sort of use a Russia relationship to help against China, Trump says, “Maybe. In the computer. I mean, maybe.”

What the hell does that even mean?

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:36:23am

re: #251 makeitstop

What the hell does that even mean?

It means Sauran is talking to him through his computer.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:38:23am

re: #252 Belafon

It means Sauran is talking to him through his computer.

Palantir Mark 7

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:38:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:44:57am

re: #254 Belafon

When you try and justify your support for our traitor POTUS that’s called Manchuriansplaining.

Wins today’s Internet

not enough updings available

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:48:59am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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he really hasn’t got the first clue about anything

Quite true: and bad enough. What’s worse, though, is that there is a fairly large bloc of voters out there for whom this nonsensical ranting sounds like cogent economic policy.
Mainly because:
1. They don’t know any more about global trade than Trump does
2. It sounds “tough”, and plays to the sense of resentment at “unfair deals”
3. Reassures the moron base that “only Trump can fix stuff”
4. “Owns” the critics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:50:35am

re: #256 Jay C

Quite true: and bad enough. What’s worse, though, is that there is a fairly large bloc of voters out there for whom this nonsensical ranting sounds like cogent economic policy.
Mainly because:
1. They don’t know any more about global trade than Trump does
2. It sounds “tough”, and plays to the sense of resentment at “unfair deals”
3. Reassures the moron base that “only Trump can fix stuff”
4. “Owns” the critics.

there are other who want to see the world economy collapse and are just cheering trump on as he runs us into the ground

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:52:52am
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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:54:57am
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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:58:37am

Morning!

Someone turned off the lights!!! Dark blue black low storm clouds are about.

I was wondering…does anyone actually read USA today or go to their web site? I can’t remember the last time I have done either willingly?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:00:32am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:01:29am

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump complained about the Fed raising interest rates when the economy improves: “Every time you go up, they want to raise rates again.”

— Daniel Dale

Hi, you must be new here.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:02:01am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Morning!

Someone turned off the lights!!! Dark blue black low storm clouds are about.

I was wondering…does anyone actually read USA today or go to their web site? I can’t remember the last time I have done either willingly?

I went to their website the other day to get a link to an op-ed written “written” by my brownnosing Trump congresscritter. But otherwise, no.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:03:28am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Morning!

Someone turned off the lights!!! Dark blue black low storm clouds are about.

I was wondering…does anyone actually read USA today or go to their web site? I can’t remember the last time I have done either willingly?

My girlfriend’s dad used to buy copies of it when he was visiting her here in Germany, only time I have ever seen anyone read it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:04:22am

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

Farmers have been on a downward trend for 15 years. The price of soybeans has fallen 50% since 5 years before the Election. A big reason is bad (terrible) Trade Deals with other countries. They put on massive Tariffs and Barriers. Canada charges 275% on Dairy. Farmers will WIN!

— Donald J. Trump

LOLwhut?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:04:46am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:05:50am

re: #266 MsJ

“Trump’s advisers were in an uproar over Coats’s interview in Aspen, Colo. They said the optics were especially damaging, noting that at moments Coats appeared to be laughing at the president, playing to his audience of the intellectual elite…”

because anyone who finds Trump ludicrust must be a coastal eleite…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:07:12am

re: #234 Belafon

“But Russia didn’t meddle, maybe other people did, too, and it didn’t affect the vote so so what?”

///

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:07:14am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Morning!

Someone turned off the lights!!! Dark blue black low storm clouds are about.

I was wondering…does anyone actually read USA today or go to their web site? I can’t remember the last time I have done either willingly?

I haven’t been to their site in a while.

Last time I checked it, they had all their stories contained in a ‘slider,’ and if you clicked in the wrong spot you’d lose the page you were reading and couldn’t get back to it.

It’s kind of a cool idea on paper. They should have left it on paper IMO.

Also - Jacobus is crazy.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:07:59am

re: #266 MsJ

We’re all laughing actually, when we aren’t crying. But, sure, optics.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:08:19am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because anyone who finds Trump ludicrust must be a coastal eleite…

Or scared shitless. So, Coats may want to stay, but laughing at His Majesticness is forbidden. Coats is SOL.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:08:51am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because anyone who finds Trump ludicrust must be a coastal eleite…

Dan Coats that liberal coastal elite from **squints** Indiana.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:08:53am

re: #263 mmmirele

I went to their website the other day to get a link to an op-ed written “written” by my brownnosing Trump congresscritter. But otherwise, no.

I heard your employer mentioned in a news report this morning but I didn’t catch all the details. Something they did automatically as far as added on product services they now have to pay back. Is that all new or is this just a continuation of previous problems?

Is it the ol’ “free for the first three months but you have to tell us you no longer need it before we hit you up for ridiculous fees after the free period” kind of thing?

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:09:17am

re: #266 MsJ

Coats should demand that Trump fire him in person, and that he will consider any notice short of coming from Trump as fake news.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:10:21am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because anyone who finds Trump ludicrust must be a coastal eleite…

We have a lot of coasts suddenly.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:10:23am

re: #266 MsJ

Trump’s advisers were in an uproar over Coats’s interview in Aspen, Colo. They said the optics were especially damaging, noting that at moments Coats appeared to be laughing at the president, playing to his audience of the intellectual elite…” washingtonpost.com

— Ken Dilanian

Yes, Trump, and Mr. Sir John Barron were very uproar.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:11:34am

re: #275 ObserverArt

We have a lot of coasts suddenly.

Every state has a coast now.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:12:07am

re: #265 Sir John Barron

LOLwhut?

Trump is an idiot who will try to manage the economy the same way Mao tried to manage China’s agriculture in the 1960s. It will be a disaster.

Meanwhile, the Fed raises interest rates when the economy booms to keep inflation in check. It’s nothing new, but Trumpino does not know it. Mr King of Debt does not know how lending rates work. I guess his Russian creditors have a different system.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:13:46am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:13:47am

Russian is selling off US Treasury bills as a hedge against sanctions.

finance.yahoo.com

Russian officials are hoping Vladimir Putin’s rapport with Donald Trump will lead to rapprochement with the U.S. But they’re not taking any chances.

A U.S. Treasury report this week appears to show Russia liquidating dollar assets at a record pace, selling four-fifths of its cache of U.S. government debt, $81 billion worth, over a two-month period. It started in April, when the U.S. imposed the most onerous sanctions yet on allies of Putin.

The release caused a stir in the markets because neither the Treasury nor the Bank of Russia will comment on the transactions. And the data is murky, so it’s hard to know if Russia actually offloaded the bulk of its U.S. assets or simply transferred custodianship to a foreign entity to disguise ownership.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:14:30am
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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:15:08am

re: #274 Belafon

Coats should demand that Trump fire him in person, and that he will consider any notice short of coming from Trump as fake news.

Never gonna happen. Trump is a bigger pussy than Garfield.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:15:45am

re: #164 Dave In Austin

Lou Stopped the clock

Have you stopped beating your wife, Lou?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:16:20am

re: #282 MsJ

Never gonna happen. Trump is a bigger pussy than Garfield.

It will either be a Pink Tweet, or something hand delivered by a minion.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:16:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:19:33am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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If there’s anything that would make Trump apoplectic, it’s NY finding the Trump Foundation to be in violation of NY’s RICO laws and then prosecute them accordingly.

He’d fucking flip out. He’d probably try to declare war on New York, LOL.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:21:14am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WHICH HUNT WHERES HER SERVER???

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:22:39am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

If there’s anything that would make Trump apoplectic, it’s NY finding the Trump Foundation to be in violation of NY’s RICO laws and then prosecute them accordingly.

He’d fucking flip out. He’d probably try to declare war on New York, LOL.

Coastal elites and all that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:22:42am

Thw Washington Post gets well deserved condemnation for publishing a false, racist opinion in opposition to birthright citizenship. Why would they publish such a screed? For the outraged shares, of course.

The Break with Michelle Wolf | Op-Ed | Netflix

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:24:53am

re: #285 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That is a great image of The Trump Crime Family.

There they are looking suspect standing in front of a fake display of a hundred manila envelopes filled with blank sheets of paper acting like everyone believes that The Big Don has turned all his businesses over to the Junior Crime Division.

Fake business leaders with a fake announcement that was covered by the fake news.

What a time.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:25:10am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

If there’s anything that would make Trump apoplectic, it’s NY finding the Trump Foundation to be in violation of NY’s RICO laws and then prosecute them accordingly.

He’d fucking flip out. He’d probably try to declare war on New York, LOL.

He’ll go on a long twitter rant about the Clinton Foundation and Uranium One, I’ll bet.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:28:04am

re: #289 Big Beautiful Door

Thw Washington Post gets well deserved condemnation for publishing a false, racist opinion in opposition to birthright citizenship. Why would they publish such a screed? For the outraged shares, of course.

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I was so frustrated to see that. I’m sure most readers will agree. I read the letters to the editor. Only one positive one about Trump’s actions in Helsinki and it was more “he would have won anyway without Putin.” A couple did strike me though, one from a former Reagan undersecretary very critical of the fact that the administration even entertained extraditing Browder and McFaul and another by a retired AF colonel very critical of his attitude towards our allies.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:29:17am

re: #286 Dr Lizardo

If there’s anything that would make Trump apoplectic, it’s NY finding the Trump Foundation to be in violation of NY’s RICO laws and then prosecute them accordingly.

He’d fucking flip out. He’d probably try to declare war on New York, LOL.

“You can’t indict the president.”
“But we can indict the children. They’re the ones in charge.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:32:47am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

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Wouldn’t bother me at all if they started football games with Peaches and Herb singing…

Peaches & Herb - Shake Your Groove Thing

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:33:18am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I was so frustrated to see that. I’m sure most readers will agree. I read the letters to the editor. Only one positive one about Trump’s actions in Helsinki and it was more “he would have won anyway without Putin.” A couple did strike me though, one from a former Reagan undersecretary very critical of the fact that the administration even entertained extraditing Browder and McFaul and another by a retired AF colonel very critical of his attitude towards our allies.

And the thing is, I’m sure Stephen Miller thinks its a great idea, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he got Trump to sign such an EO stripping all children born in America to noncitizens of their citizenship.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:35:51am

re: #295 Big Beautiful Door

And the thing is, I’m sure Stephen Miller thinks its a great idea, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he got Trump to sign such an EO stripping all children born in America to noncitizens of their citizenship.

There is a certain grain of validity to it: Germany for example has granted birthright citizenship since 2000 to all children of legal resident aliens. There are no Ankerbabys in Germany.

But to amend that law would require a full and comprehensive reform of immigration and naturalization policy, and i do not see that happening any time soon. Too many vested interests against it.

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:38:29am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Morning!

Someone turned off the lights!!! Dark blue black low storm clouds are about.

I was wondering…does anyone actually read USA today or go to their web site? I can’t remember the last time I have done either willingly?

I sell lots of copies a day of the Useless News Today. It’s for the “crossword” don’t ya know? Actually I think that it’s something most of these people can find anywhere and it won’t threaten their privileged white bread lives with its MBF blandness.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:39:57am

re: #295 Big Beautiful Door

And the thing is, I’m sure Stephen Miller thinks its a great idea, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he got Trump to sign such an EO stripping all children born in America to noncitizens of their citizenship.

Well I wonder what Steven will do when the Radical Xtians take complete control of the country and strip him of his citizenship?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:40:32am

re: #295 Big Beautiful Door

And the thing is, I’m sure Stephen Miller thinks its a great idea, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he got Trump to sign such an EO stripping all children born in America to noncitizens of their citizenship.

I worry like hell about that one. My niece’s mother is still in her citizenship process. I’m sure she’d be fine but man I worry about her and other kids too. Miller is perhaps the most malicious member of Trump’s inner circle. I’d liken him to Martin Borrman. He’s not always visibly present but he’s always there. I know some have compared him to Goebells but Goebells was a loud menace while Miller much like Borrman has Trump’s complete trust just like the latter did for Hitler.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:40:51am

Guess which company declares bankruptcy first thing Monday morning

And, you can bet on who will be going to prison

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:40:56am

re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a certain grain of validity to it: Germany for example has granted birthright citizenship since 2000 to all children of legal resident aliens. There are no Ankerbabys in Germany.

But to amend that law would require a full and comprehensive reform of immigration and naturalization policy, and i do not see that happening any time soon. Too many vested interests against it.

It would also require a constitutional amendment, or at least an activist rightwing SCOTUS majority (another reason to try to stop Kavanaugh).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:41:00am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

Well I wonder what Steven will do when the Radical Xtians take complete control of the country and strip him of his citizenship?

He’ll get himself an exception. Don’t kid yourself.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:41:17am

re: #297 William Lewis

I thought it was because USA Today was in color, but, what do I know?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:41:52am

re: #260 ObserverArt

Morning!

Someone turned off the lights!!! Dark blue black low storm clouds are about.

I was wondering…does anyone actually read USA today or go to their web site? I can’t remember the last time I have done either willingly?

When I was doing agency training and flying around the country most hotels would have a “complimentary copy’ delivered which I always tossed in the trash.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:42:55am

re: #303 Shropshire Slasher

I thought it was because USA Today was in color, but, what do I know?

That used to be the reason, but almost every major newspaper has caught up.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:43:27am

re: #266 MsJ

“Intellectual elite” anyone that tells the fucking truth.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:44:49am

re: #306 GlutenFreeJesus

“Intellectual elite” anyone that tells the fucking truth.

I’ll say it again. Better an intellectual elite than know notadamn thing Trumper who just fancies that he has common sense.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:45:15am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:46:21am

re: #305 Belafon

I haven’t purchased the local paper in 10 years, because it went to $.50 to who knows how much. Back then everything was black and white but USA Today. The only thing I miss is doing both crosswords every day.

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:46:39am

re: #294 Joe Bacon 🌹

Shake it shake it!!!

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:47:52am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

I’ll say it again. Better an intellectual elite than know notadamn thing Trumper who just fancies that he has common sense.

“I’m not anti-social, I’m just alergic to stupidity” T-shirt on a MAGA-t cap wearing idiot.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:48:19am

re: #281 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Straight talking Trump needs an army of sycophantic pundits and agitprop experts to spin every lie and misstatement. They’re on a nonstop apology tour to spin everything Trump touches and says.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:48:52am

re: #311 William Lewis

“I’m not anti-social, I’m just alergic to stupidity” T-shirt on a MAGA-t cap wearing idiot.

“Are auto-immune diseases rampant in your family?”
“Huh?”

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:52:01am

re: #311 William Lewis

“I’m not anti-social, I’m just alergic to stupidity” T-shirt on a MAGA-t cap wearing idiot.

Actually the ones that sadden me are the old guys wearing their caps with a veteran t-shirt or pin on who are spending some of their small amount of money on lottery tickets in the fantasy they’ll die rich.

Now the guy who comes in daily and drops forty/fifty dollars after driving up in his Porsche Cayenne? Then again, he’s not stupid enough to wear a MAGA hat…

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:54:36am

re: #306 GlutenFreeJesus

“Intellectual elite” anyone that tells the fucking truth.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:54:56am

When Fox says something true.

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:55:50am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

He’ll get himself an exception. Don’t kid yourself.

I’m sure he thinks he will. But there will be a “Long Knives” moment sooner or later… Possibly like the backstory in “Handmaids Tale” where all the Jews were supposedly shipped to Israel but were simply taken a ways out to sea and pushed overboard…

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:59:23am

Music break, before things spin up for the day: My wife and I were talking last night about bands we’d like to see, and talk swung round to an amazing UK band called Elbow. They’re not my usual cup of tea, which is guitar rock (y’all may have noticed, lol) - but their songs, their entire approach to their music is just so refreshing.

They’re not widely known in the US, but they are a national treasure in the UK, and for very good reason. Here’s the first single from their latest album Little Fictions. The song is lovely, and the video is absolutely beautiful. It’s called ‘Magnificent.’

Elbow - Magnificent (She Says)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:59:42am

When the media decided that a son of a slumlord was more a man of the people than a guy who was born to a teenage mom and Kenyan immigrant pre Loving, we showed how American populism is not about economics but race.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:00:29am

re: #317 William Lewis

I’m sure he thinks he will. But there will be a “Long Knives” moment sooner or later… Possibly like the backstory in “Handmaids Tale” where all the Jews were supposedly shipped to Israel but were simply taken a ways out to sea and pushed overboard…

I see him as Trump’s Borrman for the reasons I said. Miller is loyal.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:03:04am

Only the best people.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:05:07am

re: #303 Shropshire Slasher

I thought it was because USA Today was in color, but, what do I know?

USA Today was designed specifically to keep article lengths short — no more than 6 column-inches (about 6 paragraphs) — and to avoid article jumps as much as possible. Only a few “in-depth” articles jump from page 1 or 2 to an inside page. The idea was that readers seldom keep reading an article once they reach “continued on page X.” The vocabulary was also kept to a middle school or maybe high school level. Gannett was trying to compete with cable TV, its main competition back then. USA Today was not intended as a competitor to regular newspapers, but as an alternative to them for the general reader.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:06:36am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

He’ll get himself an exception. Don’t kid yourself.

That’s what he thinks. Once he used up his usefulness, his buddy Richard Spencer would buy him a one way ticket on the last plane to Tel Aviv.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:09:01am

re: #308 Belafon

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Ironically, unsubsidized enrollees, older people with above average incomes, are probably mostly Republicans. They voted for Trump to make their own insurance premiums skyrocket.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:09:59am

re: #163 Barefoot Grin

I feel like it starting to be the time for IC to put some traceable info into PDBs to see if it’s leaked and has consequences in Russia. Not jeopardizing lives, just in chatter, etc.

Cardinal of the Kremlin - it’s the canary trap. Give people different sets of data, and know who’s leaking based on the information provided.

You can bet, it’s Trump and his cabal of cronies.They’re all leaking to Russia.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:10:35am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:12:27am

I hope he ends up in poverty.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:12:30am

If it gets clicks, it sticks

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:13:14am

re: #318 makeitstop

Like!!

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:13:58am

re: #276 Sir John Barron

Yes, Trump, and Mr. Sir John Barron were very uproar.

If we couldn’t laugh we just would go insane
(If we weren’t all crazy we would go insane)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:16:05am

A winning message for the Democrats this Fall: Voters in 48 GOP Districts think the GOP is corrupt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:17:13am

re: #328 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If it gets clicks, it sticks

“Facebook does not just tolerate Infowars. It seeks to profit from Infowars and its audience. Facebook’s advertising tools, at time of writing, allow advertisers to pay Facebook to target the 743,220 users who ‘like’ the InfoWars page.”

People who use social media as a source of news deserve to be deceived.

sorry, that is my opinion on the uses of social media

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:19:10am

re: #332 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People who use social media as a source of news deserve to be deceived.

sorry, that is my opinion on the uses of social media

Yeah, if it doesn’t link to a credible source I figure its fake.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:19:18am

re: #329 Stanley Sea

Like!!

They’re SO good. Here’s one more, quite different from the first.

Elbow - Grounds For Divorce

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:19:47am

Republicans blocking the Dems’ motion to hear Trump’s translator is as venal an act I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Don’t THEY want to know? I thought i was jaded but honestly I’m stunned.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:21:20am

re: #280 wheat-dogg

Russian is selling off US Treasury bills as a hedge against sanctions.

finance.yahoo.com

It’s starting.

Russia dumping Treasury securities and soon more and more of the rest of the world will follow.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:23:00am

re: #335 Lupin

Republicans blocking the Dems’ motion to hear Trump’s translator is as venal an act I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Don’t THEY want to know? I thought i was jaded but honestly I’m stunned.

No, they literally don’t want to know. The deal is, they get tax cuts for the rich, the judges they want and a war on the environment and the poor, and in return they turn a blind eye to Trump’s corruption and treason.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:24:41am

re: #336 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s starting.

Russia dumping Treasury securities and soon more and more of the rest of the world will follow.

Well no, especially as rising interest rates keep making US treasuries an attractive investment.

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:25:51am

re: #336 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s starting.

Russia dumping Treasury securities and soon more and more of the rest of the world will follow.

There is the mother of all sh*tstorm coming, for sure. In the UK, too. And the b*st*rds at Morgan-Stanley haven’t gotten my money out of the US yet..

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Lupin  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:27:34am

re: #338 Big Beautiful Door

Well no, especially as rising interest rates keep making US treasuries an attractive investment.

Yes and normally that would help make the US$ stronger, but Trump wants to lower it, sp who knows; wherever it goes it’s the likely volatility I can’t stand.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:27:50am

re: #335 Lupin

They don’t want US to know.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:28:41am

Happy Friday, fellow news/horror aficionados.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:28:55am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good morning
And, well doesn’t this just fuck all?

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Not going to read the comments, no, no, no.

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:28:59am

re: #334 makeitstop

Love both songs. Will be listening to Elbow on my walk tomorrow!

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:29:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:29:28am

re: #336 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s starting.

Russia dumping Treasury securities and soon more and more of the rest of the world will follow.

Most likely they are just parking them safely, they would not be divesting an asset that is appreciating.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:29:32am

re: #342 jaunte

Happy Friday, fellow news/horror aficionados.

I thought we already had Friday??

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:30:41am

re: #347 JordanRules

All week long.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:31:11am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:31:22am

re: #340 Lupin

Yes and normally that would help make the US$ stronger, but Trump wants to lower it, sp who knows; wherever it goes it’s the likely volatility I can’t stand.

Trump may want to lower it, but if he keeps pursuing his trade war, as he has indicated, that is just going to keep pushing the dollar higher against other currencies, especially China’s.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:33:32am

re: #305 Belafon

That used to be the reason, but almost every major newspaper has caught up.

I read the Washington Post, UK Guardian and The Economist online.

I stopped buying the New York Times when they fabricated the Whitewater BS.

I gave up on the Lies Angeles Times when Otis Chandler was forced out.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:34:49am

Please continue to smoke.

She exemplifies everything that is fucked up about Trump cultists.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:36:51am

re: #317 William Lewis

I’m sure he thinks he will. But there will be a “Long Knives” moment sooner or later… Possibly like the backstory in “Handmaids Tale” where all the Jews were supposedly shipped to Israel but were simply taken a ways out to sea and pushed overboard…

No doubt in my mind that the Radical Xtians won’t stop with stripping Jews and Muslims of citizenship. They will also go after the Mormons, Catholics and “liberal” Protestants as well.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:40:18am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

Please continue to smoke.

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She exemplifies everything that is fucked up about Trump cultists.

Every time Roseanne opens her mouth she proves that in her head is an…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:40:20am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:40:44am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

I see him as Trump’s Borrman for the reasons I said. Miller is loyal.

Loyal to Trump. But to the Fundies Trump needs to maintain power? Miller will be expendable in the end.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:41:24am

re: #344 plansbandc

Love both songs. Will be listening to Elbow on my walk tomorrow!

I have to post one more, then. This video tells a story about a NYC couple who came together through the downtown music scene, set to yet another great song.

Elbow - New York Morning

Lyrics behind the button.

The first to pour a simple truth in words
Binds the world in a feeling all familiar
‘Cause everybody owns the great ideas
And it feels like there’s a big one round the corner

A tenner, up and out into New York
Somewhere in all that talk is all the answers
And oh, my giddy aunt, New York can talk
It’s the modern road where folk are nice to Yoko

Every bone of rivet steel, each corner stone an anchor
Jenga jutts and rusty water tower, pillar-posted sign
Every painted lining battered, like a building in this town
Sings a life of proud endeavor and the best that man can be

Me, I see a city and I hear a million voices
Planning, drilling, welding, carrying their fingers to the nub
Reaching down into the ground, stretching up into the sky
Why? Because they can, they did and do so you and I could live together

Oh my God, New York can talk
Somewhere in all that talk is all the answers
Everybody owns the great ideas
And it feels like there’s a big one round the corner

The desire to part sure symphony
The desire like a distant storm
For love, be good for me
And it feels like there’s a big one round the corner

Oh my God, New York, you talk
Somewhere in all that talk is all the answers
Everybody owns the greats ideas
And it feels like there’s a big one round the corner

The way the day begins
Decides the shade of everything
But the way it ends depends on if you’re home
For every soul, a pillow at a window, please
In a modern room, where folk are nice to Yoko

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:41:58am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

That video is stunning. I knew she was kinda whacked but that video is one that SHE put on her own YouTube channel?? WHAT?

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:43:02am
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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:44:00am

Hey guys,

I’m getting really annoyed at this point. Background info here.

She hasn’t responded to me at all since Monday even though she has obviously been active sharing and liking shit like crazy on social media. She obviously saw my message yet she hasn’t bothered to respond to me. If she’s pissed off at me, at least tell me like any real friend would do.

I’m just not sure what the fuck happened here as we’ve been chatting every day until out of nowhere Monday afternoon when she stopped responding to me. I’m really confused and I keep asking myself what I did wrong here so I can at least know what I did wrong to justify such a silent treatment from my friend.

Fuck, it’s nerve-wracking.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:44:21am

re: #354 Joe Bacon 🌹

Every time Roseanne opens her mouth she proves that in her head is an…

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“Abbie Normal” *runs for cover*

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:45:19am

re: #352 Dr. Matt

Please continue to smoke.

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She exemplifies everything that is fucked up about Trump cultists.

More ambien Rosie?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:45:57am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

More ambien Rosie?

ambien normal

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:46:32am

Hey, mmmirele, we chatted a while ago about Prairie Fires, and you were quoting a hate-blogger about the book. Which I have now read and recommend highly. In short, the blogger is accusing Rose, and particularly Laura of masterminding lies she and her family were themselves taken in by. Also, the portrait even of Rose is much more nuanced than you’d think from that blog (yes, her politics — and ethics — were pretty appalling).

The biographer does a splendid job of putting Laura’s story into the context of US history, and greatly added to my appreciation of the Little House series. And I’ve read a lot about LIW before.

(Must run away now.)

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steve_davis  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:46:53am

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It puzzles me that they spell it “Трамп” and not “Трумп”.

i don’t speak russian, but it may be as simple as the obvious version being some really indecent word in Russian. Of course, “Trump” is a really indecent word in English, so I guess it goes both ways.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:48:34am

re: #365 steve_davis

i don’t speak russian, but it may be as simple as the obvious version being some really indecent word in Russian. Of course, “Trump” is a really indecent word in English, so I guess it goes both ways.

Could be that they want to make it sound phonetically correct, in the same way Cyrillic->Latin transformations differ depending on which country you’re in.

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:48:34am

re: #280 wheat-dogg

Russian is selling off US Treasury bills as a hedge against sanctions.

finance.yahoo.com

We are so fucked.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:49:21am

re: #365 steve_davis

i don’t speak russian, but it may be as simple as the obvious version being some really indecent word in Russian. Of course, “Trump” is a really indecent word in English, so I guess it goes both ways.

Except when playing Bridge when one can bid in NO-TRUMP!

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:50:04am

Your ‘liberal’ media at work…

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:50:06am

re: #365 steve_davis

i don’t speak russian, but it may be as simple as the obvious version being some really indecent word in Russian. Of course, “Trump” is a really indecent word in English, so I guess it goes both ways.

It’s phonetic. “Трумп” would be pronounced “troomp,” the other is much like our pronunciation.

Really must run. Bye!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:51:08am

re: #359 jaunte

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LOL

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:52:49am

re: #353 Joe Bacon 🌹

No doubt in my mind that the Radical Xtians won’t stop with stripping Jews and Muslims of citizenship. They will also go after the Mormons, Catholics and “liberal” Protestants as well.

They might be shocked when they learn that some of us liberal Christians are really bad at the pacifism thing by waking up in Gehenna…

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:53:10am

re: #371 Stanley Sea

I’ll bet that’s not the only time doofus has been taped doing something embarrassing or criminal.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:53:21am

re: #341 jaunte

They don’t want US to know.

Exactly. They already know.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:53:32am
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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:54:34am

Well that’s poetic.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:55:10am
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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:58:07am

re: #377 MsJ

Is “hard” the new synonym for “impossible”, because as they say on VEEP, you’d have better luck explaining gravity to a duck.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 8:59:40am

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:01:12am

re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:03:38am
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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:04:11am

re: #378 Skip Intro

Is “hard” the new synonym for “impossible”, because as they say on VEEP, you’d have better luck explaining gravity to a duck.

I get that these people are trying to make sense of shit they cannot make sense of, but honestly:

Conspiracy theorists often have a high degree of tolerance for contradiction that allows them to ignore evidence against their theories. In one study at the University of Kent in the United Kingdom, people who said Osama bin Laden had died before the U.S. raid on his compound were also more inclined to say he was still alive. The stories might have clashed, but both versions denied the Obama administration’s report that bin Laden had been killed during the raid.

All this said, this is just a way to support their world view. Nothing more.

And this? Ugh.

In 2016, Kreko and his colleague, social psychologist Gabor Orosz of Budapest’s Eötvös Loránd University, tested the usefulness of various ways to counter conspiracy theories. … Then the researchers tried three debunking strategies: rationally arguing against the conspiracy theory; ridiculing those who believed in the theory; and empathizing with the people the theory targeted.

It turned out that both rationality and ridicule were somewhat effective in reducing participants’ belief in the theory, while empathy was largely ineffective. Showing concern for a conspiracy theory’s victims, the study suggests, isn’t a good debunking strategy — especially when the theory is racist, discriminatory or otherwise harmful.

What’s the best way to put effective pushback tactics into practice? … If someone in your family or social circle is an ongoing fount of conspiracy theories, it’s worthwhile to counter their stories with the truth — which will often be at your fingertips. “Just check on our cellphone the story the other guy just told us,” Orosz said. “We can use these rational strategies in everyday situations, say, ‘These are the facts, my friend.’ ” The theorist may or may not prove willing to accept reality, but either way, others who are listening will be able to hear evidence against a conspiracy.

Yay. Nothing, then.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:07:17am

re: #322 wheat-dogg

USA Today was designed specifically to keep article lengths short — no more than 6 column-inches (about 6 paragraphs) — and to avoid article jumps as much as possible. Only a few “in-depth” articles jump from page 1 or 2 to an inside page. The idea was that readers seldom keep reading an article once they reach “continued on page X.” The vocabulary was also kept to a middle school or maybe high school level. Gannett was trying to compete with cable TV, its main competition back then. USA Today was not intended as a competitor to regular newspapers, but as an alternative to them for the general reader.

And they also had a lot of colorful pictures and info graphics all for that quick headline-only reader that wants their news in three words and a graph.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:08:44am

re: #382 MsJ

“Fake News” counters all arguments.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:10:28am

re: #384 Skip Intro

“Fake News” counters all arguments.

It really is. Read any tweet right now about the Cohen tapes and at least 5% of the responses are “fake news”.

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:11:18am

re: #357 makeitstop

Awesome. They’ve lived their lives doing just what they wanted. Role models.

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:11:33am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:12:06am

re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, no news again today, right?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:12:56am

re: #377 MsJ

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Why are they susceptible to conspiracy theories?

Answer—because the Republicans have endlessly attacked public education.

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:13:24am

re: #369 makeitstop

Your ‘liberal’ media at work…

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Speaking of which, this piece from the New York Times which I read today succinctly - if probably inadvertently - captures the whole LMMA* thing in a nutshell.

Synopsis: Progressive-politics-sympathetic working-class white in Kansas - ticked off at “liberal” media for painting all “Heartlanders” as Trump-worshiping, redneck yahoos. IMO, Sarah Smarsh misses more points than a blind basketballer, but it fits the Times’ pattern to a T: a better-crafted version of “I hate Trump and GOP policies, but I’ll keep voting for them ‘cuz librul elites are big meanies
RTWT.

* Liberal Media, My Ass!

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:13:36am

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:14:47am

re: #389 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why are they susceptible to conspiracy theories?

Answer—because the Republicans have endlessly attacked public education.

So years ago (during the Bush era), I saw a few posts on Prison Planet and I thought to myself…is this possible? It was almost compelling about FEMA camps or some such.

Then, I engaged my brain and went Nah.

That said, had I seen those same posts NOW, I might fully believe them because there is evidence of the government locking people in cages.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:14:50am

re: #328 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If it gets clicks, it sticks

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I’m to the point now where any image of Mark Zuckerberg makes me want to throw up.

I so want to see him fail.

But he won’t because he has people locked in to using Facebook. That is why he can do what he wants. There is no repercussion.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:16:03am

re: #359 jaunte

This is obviously a plot by those plotting the coup against landslide Donald.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:16:09am

re: #391 Teukka

Copypasted from a FB group feed, which was what I was trying to share here.

An analysis from a veteran friend:

What is the Putin agenda and if he marshaled all of his resources to manifest that without military confrontation, how might that happen?
[1] Erode the key pillars of democracy: free and respected press: [President declare them to be despicable purveyors of fake news and hire a press secretary that blatantly lies to the press with no consequence — check]
[2] Weaken the American economy [Double the deficit in guise of a tax cut, gut health care, raise tariffs — check]
[3] Remove American influence in pacific rim commerce to give China and Korea more economic power [Get America to pull out of the Trans Pacific Partnership so China can become major economic power in the region — check],
[4] Enable the primary power currently stealing US technology and fueling it’s nuclear weapons program to accelerate [Summit to publicly suck up to Korea who is robbing us over the internet — check],
[5] Erode America’s economic leadership in the world [levying tariffs so the Pacific Rim and many other countries will supply more products than the US and retaliate to send us into a depression like the last time we went crazy with tariffs just before the great depression — check and check],
[6] Erode and de-stabilize NATO and EU: [Trip to insult the head of England, Germany and completely alienate Nato to weaken the boundary of Soviet expansion — check],
[7] Demoralize all democracies world wide who are inspired by the traditional American values of strength from the people, freedom, compassion, democracy, [Press conference with Putin clearly demonstrating that these values create subservience and weakness — double check with bonus]
[8] Drag America into the dark side where government by Mafia, or Oligarchs is all about money, which dis-empowers people and makes everyone a monetary manipulation pawn [Gut health care, remove family benefits, alienate foreigners, de-fund public parks and anything that is solely for public benefit - check]
[9] Discredit and disable the one agency that would hinder this plan, the CIA [Publicly discredit some of the best CIA heads in history, fire them, fire their replacements, fire their replacements, tell Putin in public that you believe what he says instead of what your own CIA organization says. — check -triple bonus, Putin… you win!!]

The best solution would be if you could get a Soviet agent or pawn in the White House. If you could get some egotistical narcissistic blowhard who lives in and out of bankruptcy a supermodel trophy wife and enough money so he could prove to the world he is really successful, then use America’s trust in the internet left over from when they had integrity in journalism, you could confuse the American people to electing him and own the United States of America and dismantle it’s government and world influence… for really cheap… cost of a handful of golf courses and hotels! The only president to not show tax returns… rife with soviet money? Married to lovely eastern block soviet KGB agent Knavs? Then if you could get him elected and avoid anyone checking his taxes to find the dirty money you would be home free.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:16:12am

re: #391 Teukka

Morse code ‘s’?

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:17:02am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

Morse code ‘s’?

See #395

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:17:50am

re: #334 makeitstop

They’re SO good. Here’s one more, quite different from the first.

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Video

I like this one much better…it’s got guitars!!!

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:18:39am

re: #386 plansbandc

Awesome. They’ve lived their lives doing just what they wanted. Role models.

I love that the band was nowhere near that video, and that they used their own song as a soundtrack to someone else’s story.

Elbow seems to look at their creative output as something bigger than just the songs. I really enjoy that approach.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:20:04am

re: #398 ObserverArt

I like this one much better…it’s got guitars!!!

Yeah, pretty cool song all around. They cover a lot of ground, and they’re constantly changing things up.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:20:08am

re: #327 Dr. Matt

his fan club is primarily made up of TPUSA activists, College Republican members and other young conservatives

lol

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:21:13am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:22:44am

re: #345 jaunte

Trump to CNBC: “I think it was a very good press conference. Except for the fake news. I really think I did very well at the press conference.”

— Daniel Dale

“Lots of Intelligence people thought I did well, too. John Miller, John Barron, of Intelligence, they thought I did great.”

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:23:39am

re: #335 Lupin

Republicans blocking the Dems’ motion to hear Trump’s translator is as venal an act I’ve ever seen in my entire life. Don’t THEY want to know? I thought i was jaded but honestly I’m stunned.

No offense, but your comment indicates what I said yesterday. You don’t know how much the Republicans did nothing but block and stop Obama. Now they are doing everything they can to protect Trump. 10 years of Republican heavy hands now.

Short answer: They already know. They just don’t care.

And I can understand how all that may not come across in reporting in Europe.

There is a huge divide in this country and the conservative side of things are being played thinking Trump and the Republicans care about them. They do not. They care for their votes and then they dump on them too. But the hate for “others” keeps them warm at night even if they are getting screwed.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:24:12am

re: #402 MsJ

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Bad ass chick 1 - Douchebag Trump supporter 0

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:28:18am

File this one under jobs I do not want:

reddit.com

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:28:29am

Searchable transcript of Paul Manafort texts! Woot!

(Links to many formats at the bottom of the page)

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:30:38am
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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:30:47am
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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:32:21am

re: #349 MsJ

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Getting closer and closer to a firm link between the Russians and Trump’s Admin.

Go ahead Donny, claim you did nothing and knew nothing. We can buy that because that is you daily…doing nothing and knowing nothing.

But you are the man in charge so whatever happens under you is still your doing. Hiding behind others is not going to work. In fact it shows how you set things up so you can deny.

You are operating a crime syndicate. And, as the man at the top you too go down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:32:47am

re: #407 makeitstop

Searchable transcript of Paul Manafort texts! Woot!

(Links to many formats at the bottom of the page)

See if Trumpers weren’t a stupid cult, they’d realize that Trump and Manafort are both why they proclaim to hate Washington and the swamp

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gocart mozart  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:34:00am

So the Russian spy/oligarch/mobster gets a blue check mark now?
Google Translate

Today is Thomas and Avdotya. “While the ear in the field-work Podol. If the grain in the ear-hurry to squeeze the strip! ” (In a word: “Kui iron-not yet taken away! “))) Galileo one of my acquaintances).

Good morning!… It fills the ears in Rostov and Volgograd…. ((((

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:35:58am

This will be interesting. Sadly. I think a lot of businesses might be closed for renovations during this period. And I doubt there are enough police in the entire state to deal with this.

Las Vegas was the other possible contender - even after officials in Las Vegas told the GOP to GTFO. They expected Sheldon Adleson to get it OK’d along with republicans in the service union (???) Nobody wants the GOP or the liability they will bring.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:36:00am

re: #409 jaunte

“Yeah but where’s the server and why not check Clinton Foundation many crimes?”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:36:56am

re: #413 MsJ

This will be interesting. Sadly. I think a lot of businesses might be closed for renovations during this period. And I doubt there are enough police in the entire state to deal with this.

Las Vegas was the other possible contender - even after officials in Las Vegas told the GOP to GTFO. They expected Sheldon Adleson to get it OK’d along with republicans in the service union (???) Nobody wants the GOP or the liability they will bring.

Maybe they can find a nice rural, small town.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:37:00am

re: #409 jaunte

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Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump…

This is what it looks like when the spackle falls out of your fixer.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:38:34am

re: #409 jaunte

“Campaign finance laws are the swamp we want to get rid of but Rule of Law and where are Clinton Foundation pay for play records?”

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:39:38am

re: #360 electrotek

Hey guys,

I’m getting really annoyed at this point. Background info here.

She hasn’t responded to me at all since Monday even though she has obviously been active sharing and liking shit like crazy on social media. She obviously saw my message yet she hasn’t bothered to respond to me. If she’s pissed off at me, at least tell me like any real friend would do.

I’m just not sure what the fuck happened here as we’ve been chatting every day until out of nowhere Monday afternoon when she stopped responding to me. I’m really confused and I keep asking myself what I did wrong here so I can at least know what I did wrong to justify such a silent treatment from my friend.

Fuck, it’s nerve-wracking.

You may have done nothing wrong. It sounds to me like you are just flat being ignored. It may just be a power move to put you in place and/or to widen the distance.

People can be weird just for the sake of being weird. It could be about anything or nothing. The power comes in knowing you care and keep trying and she has the control.

That’ll be 5 cents.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:40:23am

AND, if there’s one tape, there will be many, many, MANY more. Yuuuuuge

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:40:27am

re: #412 gocart mozart

Today is Thomas and Avdotya. “While the ear in the field-work Podol. If the grain in the ear-hurry to squeeze the strip! ” (In a word: “Kui iron-not yet taken away! “))) Galileo one of my acquaintances).

Huh?

This sounds like one of those clandestine messages they used to broadcast into Occupied Europe in WWII. Though to me, it sounds more like the parody version from “‘Allo, ‘Allo?”

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:40:48am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:42:29am
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gocart mozart  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:42:50am

No problem! Country big, grain “wedge” wide! Altai, Orenburg, North Caucasus, etc. Regions-“stretches”! Grains less than last year will be, but quite enough! Quite (on relics storage and processing)!

Either he is a farmer or “grain” is code for something.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:42:51am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:43:27am

re: #423 gocart mozart

Either he is a farmer or “grain” is code for something.

Are these the signals for our coup? How many hours away are we now?

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:43:47am

re: #418 ObserverArt

You may have done nothing wrong. It sounds to me like you are just flat being ignored. It may just be a power move to put you in place and/or to widen the distance.

People can be weird just for the sake of being weird. It could be about anything or nothing. The power comes in knowing you care and keep trying and she has the control.

That’ll be 5 cents.

I just can’t grasp why she would do that out of nowhere. It seriously came out of the blue. I mean, I’m not the type of guy who would get upset if someone doesn’t respond to me right away or within hours. It just irks me because she’s clearly conversing with others and commenting like there’s no tomorrow, yet she can’t respond back with my empathy.

I can’t help but to feel disrespected and that my empathy is unwanted and lacking appreciation from her.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:44:06am

THREAD

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:44:35am

re: #364 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

TY for your review, I appreciate it. Still don’t know if I can read it, because I simply *cannot* stand libertarians.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:44:49am

And it’s bothering me so much that I have had trouble sleeping because I keep wondering what the fuck I did wrong for her to do that to me out of the blue like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:46:58am

re: #389 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why are they susceptible to conspiracy theories?

Answer—because the Republicans have endlessly attacked public education.

They had a chance to call out outrageous Birther or Fake Muslim conspiracy theories but did not, and in doing so only encouraged more outrageous contrivances. They are now hoist by their own petard: to get elected, GOP candidates cannot jut tolerate these theories, they have to actively embrace them

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:47:46am

re: #420 Jay C

Huh?

This sounds like one of those clandestine messages they used to broadcast into Occupied Europe in WWII. Though to me, it sounds more like the parody version from “‘Allo, ‘Allo?”

Oh that’s an interesting impression! I didn’t know what to make of it at all.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:48:59am

re: #402 MsJ

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Good for her.

I kind of wish she would have kneed him in the ‘nads as she spun him down. He deserved it.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:50:41am

re: #429 electrotek
Can you call or go see her? I do this to myself too, it’s my anxiety disorder that fuels it though.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:52:02am

re: #426 electrotek

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:52:16am

re: #402 MsJ

Cherwinski is just one of the many Access Hollywood Bus stochastic terrorists that Trump has encouraged.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:53:47am

re: #426 electrotek

I just can’t grasp why she would do that out of nowhere. It seriously came out of the blue. I mean, I’m not the type of guy who would get upset if someone doesn’t respond to me right away or within hours. It just irks me because she’s clearly conversing with others and commenting like there’s no tomorrow, yet she can’t respond back with my empathy.

I can’t help but to feel disrespected and that my empathy is unwanted and lacking appreciation from her.

That’s the thing about empathy… don’t express it with any expectations attached. Feel it, share it and be better for it. Let the rest go.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:54:16am

re: #415 Sir John Barron

Maybe they can find a nice rural, small town.

Go to the corn country in the Midwest somewhere and set up a big tent in a field somewhere.

Hell they already have a circus going what with all the clowns and animals in their party.

The RNC National Convention…hurry, hurry…step right up and watch the big show.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:54:28am

re: #373 jaunte

I’ll bet that’s not the only time doofus has been taped doing something embarrassing or criminal.

For example, the Access Hollywood tape, and who knows what’s on The Apprentice tapes they keep locked up.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:55:35am

re: #436 JordanRules

That’s the thing about empathy… don’t express it with any expectations attached. Feel it, share it and be better for it. Let the rest go.

And not doing so could push someone away for good.

When I get into those LEAVE ME ALONE TO DEAL WITH whatever moments, I don’t want to feel like anyone is “hounding” me (even if that is not the case at all) because I have to deal with whatever I am dealing with. Someone pursuing me during that time only leads to my feeling pressured and cornered and I walk away. Often permanently.

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:56:23am

re: #437 ObserverArt

Go to the corn country in the Midwest somewhere and set up a big tent in a field somewhere.

Hell they already have a circus going what with all the clowns and animals in their party.

The RNC National Convention…hurry, hurry…step right up and watch the big show.

Good idea, but I thought circuses had done away with featuring freak shows…..

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:58:51am

re: #426 electrotek

I just can’t grasp why she would do that out of nowhere. It seriously came out of the blue. I mean, I’m not the type of guy who would get upset if someone doesn’t respond to me right away or within hours. It just irks me because she’s clearly conversing with others and commenting like there’s no tomorrow, yet she can’t respond back with my empathy.

I can’t help but to feel disrespected and that my empathy is unwanted and lacking appreciation from her.

She said she was in a bad place so send a short note saying you know she is hurting and she can contact you any time she wants. Then back off. DO NOT say “But I know you’re on social media talking to other people!” because that will seem stalkerish.

She will get back to you in her own good time.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:59:09am

re: #440 Jay C

Good idea, but I thought circuses had done away with featuring freak shows…..

And elephants! We should take a cue from that…

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 20, 2018 • 9:59:39am

How long before Michael Cohen is poisoned with thallium by the Russian FSB?

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:00:15am
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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:00:29am

re: #440 Jay C

Good idea, but I thought circuses had done away with featuring freak shows…..

Trump’s Making America Great Again!

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:01:03am

re: #443 DodgerFan1988

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How long before Michael Cohen is poisoned with thallium by the Russian FSB?

Too obvious, even for a (tiny) ham-fisted klutz like Trump.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:04:37am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

She said she was in a bad place so send a short note saying you know she is hurting and she can contact you any time she wants. Then back off. DO NOT say “But I know you’re on social media talking to other people!” because that will seem stalkerish.

She will get back to you in her own good time.

Excellent advice.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:05:30am

Bombshell BBC report: Witnesses say Trump would ‘pursue models in their teens’

BBC’s “Panorama” program this weekend will release a bombshell report alleging that President Donald Trump used to regularly pursue teenage models who were as young as 17.

According to a press release issued Friday by the BBC, the investigation found that while “there’s no evidence that Donald Trump had sex with underage girls… the program has been told he did pursue models in their teens.”

This will only make him more popular with the “Christian” crowd.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:06:12am

re: #433 A Mom Anon

Can you call or go see her? I do this to myself too, it’s my anxiety disorder that fuels it though.

Can’t go see her, she lives out of state.

I’ll try calling her, I guess.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:06:54am

re: #421 MsJ

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And old tech likely did the trick. While they were going big on hacking, providing a cyber show that everyone in the world is extra alerted to, some waitress onsite probably dropped the bug.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:06:54am

re: #413 MsJ

This will be interesting. Sadly. I think a lot of businesses might be closed for renovations during this period. And I doubt there are enough police in the entire state to deal with this.

Las Vegas was the other possible contender - even after officials in Las Vegas told the GOP to GTFO. They expected Sheldon Adleson to get it OK’d along with republicans in the service union (???) Nobody wants the GOP or the liability they will bring.

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“After Newton’s Democratic colleague Egleston cast what many perceived as the deciding vote to accept the convention, he faced an onslaught of angry emails and social media posts, along with threats of party primary challengers.”

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:08:35am

re: #439 MsJ

And not doing so could push someone away for good.

When I get into those LEAVE ME ALONE TO DEAL WITH whatever moments, I don’t want to feel like anyone is “hounding” me (even if that is not the case at all) because I have to deal with whatever I am dealing with. Someone pursuing me during that time only leads to my feeling pressured and cornered and I walk away. Often permanently.

Here’s the thing: I feel that she’s only doing this to me because she has no problem talking to others (given her social media activity that pops up in my feed, kind of hard to avoid).

With the obvious incrimination, I can’t help but to think I’m at fault for something that I have no idea on. If she can clearly share and comment like crazy on social media, then she ‘s not trying to leave to her own self while dealing with her issues.

If she wanted everyone to leave her alone, I wouldn’t be feeling like shit and unwanted. But when I feel like I’m being singled out for reasons unknown, it starts to bother me a lot.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:10:15am
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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:10:23am

re: #441 The Vicious Babushka

She said she was in a bad place so send a short note saying you know she is hurting and she can contact you any time she wants. Then back off. DO NOT say “But I know you’re on social media talking to other people!” because that will seem stalkerish.

She will get back to you in her own good time.

Oh shit, good point. I mean it pops up on my Facebook feed so it’s IMPOSSIBLE to avoid. It’s not like I’m on her Facebook page and searching on her recent social media activity.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:11:49am

…when a maaaaan bribes a woman…

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freetoken  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:12:18am

re: #448 Dr. Matt

I linked the promo video last week when the BBC aired their show.

But no one on this side of the Atlantic seemed to be interested.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:12:18am

re: #453 JordanRules

When informed about the tape, the president said, “I can’t believe Michael would do this with me,” according to a source familiar with the tapes.

Of course, he turns it right into an adversarial thing. Gotta have someone to blame.

He is pathetic.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:12:28am

re: #453 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

It’s kind of what happens when loyalty is a one way street.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:12:51am

re: #453 JordanRules

“I can’t believe Michael would do this with me”

Wait until he finds out about Vlad.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:12:53am

re: #453 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:13:19am

re: #460 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

LMAO!!

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:13:23am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:14:22am

re: #448 Dr. Matt

Bombshell BBC report: Witnesses say Trump would ‘pursue models in their teens’

This will only make him more popular with the “Christian” crowed.

And once again our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press quashes another story that hurts Republicans

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:15:21am

Sometimes humans can be awesome.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:17:56am

re: #444 jaunte

I actually did think that the campaign was at least something of an act and that a more serious person would emerge as president.

I was young and foolish then, naïve as the kids say today.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:20:33am

re: #456 freetoken

I linked the promo video last week when the BBC aired their show.

But no one on this side of the Atlantic seemed to be interested.

Sad and true. They weren’t interested during the campaign and they still aren’t interested even as he tries taking us all down with him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:21:25am

re: #366 Teukka

Could be that they want to make it sound phonetically correct, in the same way Cyrillic->Latin transformations differ depending on which country you’re in.

They chose “Trahmp” with the “a” in “father” vs. “Troomp” with the “oo” in “book”. With Russian phonology those are the only two choices (in a stressed syllable). I just find it odd they wouldn’t stay in the English “u” category.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:21:53am

re: #429 electrotek

My opinion, you need to drop it. You are obsessing & are going to do something that will not work out for you. Give her the space she is requesting.

And that’s going to be my only comment.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:22:07am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:23:22am

I was in a hip coffee shop this morning sipping iced coffee through an organic straw and all the liberals were whispering about how paying hush money to playmates and porn stars, crapping on NATO, and capitulating to a murderous thug were bringing them closer to Trump.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:24:03am

re: #468 Stanley Sea

My opinion, you need to drop it. You are obsessing & are going to do something that will not work out for you. Give her the space she is requesting.

And that’s going to be my only comment.

Appreciate your blunt honesty. That seems to be the best bet at this point.

It’s a horrible habit and trait of mine, I wish I wasn’t this way at times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:25:03am

re: #448 Dr. Matt

Bombshell BBC report: Witnesses say Trump would ‘pursue models in their teens’

This will only make him more popular with the “Christian” crowd.

they will point out that biblical patriarchs had young teen wives…

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:26:05am

I just don’t want to get fucked over again like I have many times in the past.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:31:55am

re: #459 jaunte

Wait until he finds out about Vlad.

Oh he will lose it when he finds out that Vlad saw and sees him as nothing more than a dope.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:32:52am

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they will point out that biblical patriarchs had young teen wives…

He was just trying to get them to find Christ.//

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:33:40am

It’s true.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:34:09am

re: #476 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

It’s true.

It’s very true sigh.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:36:26am

re: #437 ObserverArt

Go to the corn country in the Midwest somewhere and set up a big tent in a field somewhere.

Hell they already have a circus going what with all the clowns and animals in their party.

The RNC National Convention…hurry, hurry…step right up and watch the big show.

They can call it a Revival.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:36:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:38:17am

re: #479 Kragar

[Embedded content]

He was right, the proper term she should have used was Asspuppet. Way to go Mike and TYT. Oh and btw she’s still doing more against Trump than Bernie.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:38:22am

re: #473 electrotek

I just don’t want to get fucked over again like I have many times in the past.

Do not make this about you.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:39:00am
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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:40:19am
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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:40:23am

re: #481 The Vicious Babushka

Do not make this about you.

You’re right. Damn having such an anxiety disorder of this nature really sucks.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:41:24am

re: #479 Kragar

Is anyone going to talk about how HRC committed a severe “norm violation” by explicitly labeling her opponent “a puppet” of the Kremlin?

— Michael Tracey

Agreed. She should have more correctly stated that Drump was a full on collaborator and colluder with the Kremlin.

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Kragar  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:41:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:42:02am

re: #486 Kragar

Nothing to see here, let’s move on.

////

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:42:50am

re: #473 electrotek

I just don’t want to get fucked over again like I have many times in the past.

Relationships are about BOTH of you. If there’s not two, then it’s just time to move on. It can hurt, but you get through it and move on.

And that’s for any type of relationship.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:42:53am

re: #483 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Jordan damage control:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:43:30am

re: #486 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Cohen’s response should be “I don’t care about u.”

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:44:13am

re: #489 Teukka

Sneaky precog crisis actors.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:44:45am

re: #489 Teukka

Jordan damage control:

[Embedded content]

I’m the real victim here!// Good grief just resign you enabling son of a bitch. Al Franken left for much more benign behavior.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:44:51am

re: #484 electrotek

You’re right. Damn having such an anxiety disorder of this nature really sucks.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:45:34am
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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:45:34am

re: #489 Teukka

Jordan damage control:

It’s that Obama time machine.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:48:00am

re: #351 Joe Bacon 🌹

I read the Washington Post, UK Guardian and The Economist online.

I stopped buying the New York Times when they fabricated the Whitewater BS.

I gave up on the Lies Angeles Times when Otis Chandler was forced out.

Los Angeles Times has a new owner; seems to be a BIG improvement. Give them another chance.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:48:29am

re: #479 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Who is Michael Tracey and should I care what he has to say about anything?

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:48:39am

Day 4 of protests.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:49:39am

re: #498 JordanRules

Break out the vuvuzelas.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:49:52am
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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:50:35am
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Mike Lamb  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:50:51am

re: #460 Dr. Matt

[Embedded content]

Republicans consistently return to the “just say it’s the opposite of what it really means” spin…

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:52:09am

re: #489 Teukka

Jordan damage control:

[Embedded content]

Uh oh, he is in trouble now. He just called the dogs out on himself. They were only sniffing around. Now they will be on full hunt down.

Funny how big tough Jimmy the Investigation Man is turning into a little crybaby when he is the one being investigated.

This is going to take some of the starch out of his tight ass.

Keep on him dogs! You will be doing Ohio and America a big service if you can take this fool down.

504
Kragar  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:52:10am

re: #497 ObserverArt

Who is Michael Tracey and should I care what he has to say about anything?

He was the blogger and member of the Young Turks which Maxine Waters murdered in public.

505
HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:52:23am

re: #497 ObserverArt

Who is Michael Tracey and should I care what he has to say about anything?

The man baby at the Young Tools who is convinced Rep Waters assaulted him.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:52:33am

When is it finally serious to the GOP in general ?
But it’s Lefty CNN!!!
Not really it’s Rep Texas Republican Rep. Will Hurd
1 House Republican’s chilling warning on Trump and Russia
CNN

“The president’s failure to defend the United States intelligence community’s unanimous conclusions of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and condemn Russian covert counterinfluence campaigns and his standing idle on the world stage while a Russian dictator spouted lies confused many but should concern all Americans. By playing into Vladimir Putin’s hands, the leader of the free world actively participated in a Russian disinformation campaign that legitimized Russian denial and weakened the credibility of the United States to both our friends and foes abroad.”

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:53:47am

re: #505 HappyWarrior

The man baby at the Young Tools who is convinced Rep Waters assaulted him.

Don’t downplay his assault Happy. She almost killed that man!!!
.
.
.
.
//

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:54:20am

re: #507 JordanRules

He’s tissue-delicate.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:54:29am

re: #501 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And whose appeal to Trump is his position that you can’t indict a sitting President.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:55:24am

re: #503 ObserverArt

Uh oh, he is in trouble now. He just called the dogs out on himself. They were only sniffing around. Now they will be on full hunt down.

Funny how big tough Jimmy the Investigation man is turning into a little crybaby when he is the one being investigated.

This is going to take some of the starch out of his tight ass.

Keep on him dogs! You will be doing Ohio and America a big service if you can take this fool down.

Portions of his story keep slowly changing…

511
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:56:05am

re: #489 Teukka

512
jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 10:56:27am

re: #510 Mike Lamb

Portions of his story keep slowly changing…

Wrestling goggles fogged in shower, could not see a thing.

513
ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:00:31am

re: #500 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

We are now in the “dirty” commercials stage of this special election. It got to that point this week.

I don’t have a vote in this election, not my district. But since a large part of Columbus and all the smaller communities north and east is in Ohio District 12, Columbus media is a big part of the race.

Republicans losing that seat would be huge. It was John Kasich’s old seat since the mid-80s and has been a Republican seat since with do-nothing-say-nothing Pat Tiberi holding it until he decided to retire.

I am not sure, but I suspect Tiberi was being hurt by Trump and was hearing about it. Instead of standing up, he stepped down.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:01:52am

I’m very glad and grateful for the advice given to me here today.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:02:42am

re: #504 Kragar

He was the blogger and member of the Young Turks which Maxine Waters murdered in public.

Oh God…him?!

Geez, I don’t know if I would ever admit I was the one that did that video.

Thanks. Ignore list he goes.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:03:31am

re: #513 ObserverArt

From what I read, Flake decided that given a choice between standing with Trump or standing up to Trump, he chose to bail as well.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:05:56am

re: #489 Teukka

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:08:11am

re: #500 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Damn, I guess I moved 15 years too soon. (That was my district when I lived in Ohio—had to put up with John Kasich and then Pat Tiberi)

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:09:40am

Trump dumbassery meets its match.

Yeah, we knew there had to be tapes out there.

Not that it matters to the GOP or Trump’s sycophantic and cult/bigot brigade base.

They’ll believe anything he says even when he’s lying about the color of the sky.

For the rest of us, it’s just more proof of how utterly corrupt and unworthy of the WH he was all along.

But let’s also keep some perspective. Trump was elected despite being a white nationalist on the campaign trail. He was elected despite being a misogynist on the campaign trail. He was elected despite the Access Hollywood tape. His supporters ignored, or worse, backed him, because of those very things.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:09:50am

Isn’t it a funny coincidence how stories have come out (or continued) about the questionable conduct of Trump’s staunchest supporters this week?

It’s almost as if someone is, I dunno, removing the underpinnings of support from under Trump’s (tiny) feet. A little bit at a time.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:11:17am

re: #512 jaunte

Wrestling goggles fogged in shower, could not see a thing.

And he kept those big ear protectors on so he couldn’t hear anything either.

It is understandable…///

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:12:48am

Re: Playboy tape.

And that’s even with Trump being friends with the National Enquirer publisher. That he was thinking of paying them off shows just how damaging he thought this whole thing was.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:13:27am

re: #521 ObserverArt

And he kept those big ear protectors on so he couldn’t hear anything either.

It is understandable…///

And now I understand the shirtsleeve shtick. He didn’t want to risk ruining a suit jacket when he jumped in the shower to stand between his lying eyes and the things he didn’t see.
/

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:38:05am

Y’know, I completely forgot that Haberman announced she was quitting Twitter the other day.

Funny she should come back to minimize potential damage to Trump, ain’t it?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:41:34am

re: #452 electrotek

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