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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:15:02am
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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:17:00am

A trailer for the movie of our lives.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:18:39am

re: #2 JordanRules

But her emails.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:21:14am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:22:51am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:22:59am

With Roberts being the 5th vote, I expect him to do his usual Roberts thing, which is to chip away at Roe without officially reversing it until almost nothing is left. Once Kavanaugh is seated, Roberts as the swing vote will have the power to shape the Constitution into whatever he wants it to be, because as long as he is voting with the majority he gets to write the opinion himself or decide who will.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:24:39am

re: #5 jaunte

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The judge will have the final say on whether they are eligible for reunification or not, not the monsters in the Trump Administration.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:25:20am

Emails are worse than criminalizing abortion, don’cha know?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:26:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:26:14am

re: #2 JordanRules

A trailer for the movie of our lives.

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She was right about him. Sanders wouldn’t have gone after him on that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:26:57am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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They’re a dangerous cult and it’s going to be ugly for them soon.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:28:37am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:28:54am

One of my favorite things about Twitter is when someone jumps up and tells you something that’s in the article you just posted a link to, as if it’s news and you didn’t know. Sometimes they’re even belligerent about it. Thereby making it obvious they didn’t even click through to read before tweeting.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:29:21am
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:29:42am

Very good polling numbers for Democrats. Dana Rohrabacher (R, Moscow) is in trouble, and with lots of Republicans resigning, there will be a lot of open seats Democrats will be very competetive in.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:30:46am

SMDH

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:32:08am

re: #14 JordanRules

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Even though rationally I believe its a waste of money to send people to Mars anytime soon and we should explore it with robots instead, it will still be very cool if I live long enough to watch the first Mars landing by people.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:32:12am

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:32:49am

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:35:18am

re: #12 lawhawk

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Yeah I liked the part where Reagan praised the KGB for being “very very tough”. Your credibility is shit Jim.

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William Lewis  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:35:39am

re: #12 lawhawk

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Nah, Reganesque in that he too committed treason with the Iranians to arm the Contras in violation of the law.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:35:40am

re: #16 JordanRules

SMDH

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Goddamn

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:37:08am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

One of my favorite things about Twitter is when someone jumps up and tells you something that’s in the article you just posted a link to, as if it’s news and you didn’t know. Sometimes they’re even belligerent about it. Thereby making it obvious they didn’t even click through to read before tweeting.

For example, I now have a whole lot of people replying to my tweet of the article about Trump posting a Russian TV clip, saying, “Putin wasn’t even president yet!”

And that’s the second sentence of my article.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:41:17am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

For example, I now have a whole lot of people replying to my tweet of the article about Trump posting a Russian TV clip, saying, “Putin wasn’t even president yet!”

And that’s the second sentence of my article.

It must just be you Charles. They have you pegged.

If you were to put out a totally blank tweet I bet you’d still get static about it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:41:50am

re: #21 William Lewis

Nah, Reganesque in that he too committed treason with the Iranians to arm the Contras in violation of the law.

And…Contra Cocaine flooding South Central Los Angeles…

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:42:17am
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SteelPH  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:42:28am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

For example, I now have a whole lot of people replying to my tweet of the article about Trump posting a Russian TV clip, saying, “Putin wasn’t even president yet!”

And that’s the second sentence of my article.

Gotta love when they claim you didn’t read the article that you yourself wrote.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:48:38am
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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:49:53am

re: #2 JordanRules

A trailer for the movie of our lives.

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All I can say is DAYUM.

(Wonder what the NYT was covering that day)

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SteelPH  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:51:45am

re: #30 BeachDem

All I can say is DAYUM.

(Wonder what the NYT was covering that day)

Butter Emails.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:53:10am
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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:53:38am

Reposted from downstairs - didn’t Mags announce she was leaving Twitter the other day?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:56:45am
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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:57:06am

re: #31 SteelPH

But her emails.
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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:57:51am

re: #29 lawhawk

Strange. Might have thought faux would have wanted—expected even—another one of their own on the inside.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:57:56am

A good subthread on how they did it.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 11:58:03am
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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:01:10pm
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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:02:10pm

Interesting developments in the Swedish forest fire saga.
10 fires appears to be arson, 2 in Sala, 1 in N Stockholm, 7 in Arboga.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:03:05pm

re: #33 makeitstop

Reposted from downstairs - didn’t Mags announce she was leaving Twitter the other day?

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Her and Roseanne.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:04:58pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon 🌹

And…Contra Cocaine flooding South Central Los Angeles…

Speaking of which the second season of Snowfall is starting soon!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:05:26pm

re: #40 Teukka

Interesting developments in the Swedish forest fire saga.
10 fires appears to be arson, 2 in Sala, 1 in N Stockholm, 7 in Arboga.

Damn! You expect that here in Gooberland, but even if I am a (well, half) Norwegian, I thought better of Sweden than that.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:06:28pm

re: #39 jaunte

One of the laws we will have to get passed after this is no relatives of any congressperson can be hired or appointed by the executive.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:07:08pm

re: #44 Belafon

One of the laws we will have to get passed after this is no relatives of any congressperson can be hired or appointed by the executive.

Yep.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:07:28pm
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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:08:42pm
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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:09:55pm

re: #33 makeitstop

Reposted from downstairs - didn’t Mags announce she was leaving Twitter the other day?

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She said she’d only comment on her stories and the like (this one is one of her stories)

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:10:42pm

re: #44 Belafon

One of the laws we will have to get passed after this is no relatives of any congressperson can be hired or appointed by the executive.

Some of it was when I was real young, but I can still remember all the howling of the three Kennedy brothers and Father Joe.

Oh how wrong it was to have them all in government…they were put there by their rich daddy. What is this a royal family?

At least they proved they could serve others instead of just themselves like the Trump Crime Family™.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:13:31pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Sing it now-sorta-sorry-Trump Republicans.

Ral Donner - You Dont Know What You`ve Got ( Until You Lose It ) ( 1961 )

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:14:00pm

re: #46 Teukka

“Burleigh said the group doesn’t organize, in part to fly under the radar of possible persecutors.”

He misspelled ‘prosecutors.’

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:14:07pm

re: #48 MsJ

Then, as the Doctor said, we’re leading a revolution.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:15:55pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:16:31pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Video

Flash forward to today. If this was proposed today, the Republicans would block going to the moon saying that it was a waste of money!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:16:52pm

re: #50 ObserverArt

Some of it was when I was real young, but I can still remember all the howling of the three Kennedy brothers and Father Joe.

Oh how wrong it was to have them all in government…they were put there by their rich daddy. What is this a royal family?

At least they proved they could serve others instead of just themselves like the Trump Crime Family™.

They were about serving others. So were the Bushes even. Trump and family are about enriching themselves. Ivanka is a mirror image of her father. She’s just more subtle about being a shitty person.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:16:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:18:02pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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Trump hates dogs. That really should have been everyone’s first clue. He hates animals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:18:38pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

Flash forward to today. If this was proposed today, the Republicans would block going to the moon saying that it was a waste of money!

Unless there was money to be made, bribes to be had, pork to be doled, pockets to be lined…

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:19:44pm

KKKlassy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:20:00pm

bastards

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:20:28pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

And kids aren’t far behind.

He simply doesn’t know how to interact with anyone, including his own family. Kids and animals tend to pick up on this more than most.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:21:19pm

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Trump hates dogs. That really should have been everyone’s first clue. He hates animals.

THIS.

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SteelPH  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:21:39pm

re: #62 lawhawk

And kids aren’t far behind.

He simply doesn’t know how to interact with anyone, including his own family. Kids and animals tend to pick up on this more than most.

He’s only used to having sycophants and servants.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:21:46pm

re: #60 MsJ

KKKlassy.

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Trash family. Couldn’t even pay for his own engagement ring without it being a spectacle. Enjoy him, Kim, he’ll cheat on you too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:22:16pm

re: #61 Backwoods_Sleuth

bastards

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Goddamnit

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:22:50pm

re: #33 makeitstop

Reposted from downstairs - didn’t Mags announce she was leaving Twitter the other day?

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No, she said she was limiting her Twitter presence to tweeting about stories she’s reporting on.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:23:26pm

re: #63 MsJ

THIS.

I mean I think only one President is known not to have anything resembling a pet and it was years ago. Even Nixon yes as VP had Checkers.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:25:14pm

Most Presidents had dogs. Did any President have a cat? (other than Socks Clinton)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:25:18pm

No one knows—besides Cohen and the FBI—right now, I’ll bet. I heard Avenatti saying that there are “multiple—-more than one” tapes. Sam Nunberg today said there’s probably lots, but since Cohen taped everything, a lot of it likely just, “hey, Michael, where are you?” kind of stuff. It seems unlikely though, that there’s only one incriminating recording of Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:26:45pm

Trump has a pet. His pet’s name is SeanHannityDevinNunesJimJordan. Trump’s pet is a Human Centipede.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:26:45pm

Thread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:27:20pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Most Presidents had dogs. Did any President have a cat? (other than Socks Clinton)

Rutherford B. Hayes, Jimmy Carter, Teddy Roosevelt, Gerald Ford

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:27:38pm

re: #60 MsJ

KKKlassy.

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The Art of the Double Deal.

“Will you marry me?”

Click. Flash, Snap. Click. Flash. Snap. Click.

Oh yes…I will!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:28:20pm

re: #69 The Vicious Babushka

Most Presidents had dogs. Did any President have a cat? (other than Socks Clinton)

The Carters had one as did W Bush. Dogs are more common tho.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:29:06pm

John Quincy Adams had a pet alligator.
Teddy Roosevelt had lots of weird pets at the White House, including a zebra, a parrot, bears, a lion, a hyena, a coyote, rats, and a one-legged rooster.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:29:10pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Thread.

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If we hear about American critics of Putin taking ill.

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stpaulbear  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:29:40pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

They were about serving others. So were the Bushes even. Trump and family are about enriching themselves. Ivanka is a mirror image of her father. She’s just more subtle about being a shitty person.

Bush’s handler, Dick Cheney, was totally into self-enrichment when he was VP.

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:29:51pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #55 Joe Bacon 🌹

Flash forward to today. If this was proposed today, the Republicans would block going to the moon saying that it was a waste of money!

Unless there was money to be made, bribes to be had, pork to be doled, pockets to be lined…

Actually, IIRC, this is exactly how the Kennedy Administration DID “sell” the idea of expanding manned space programs to include lunar landings to Congress and the public. There was some opposition to the notion (and from both sides of the aisle), but JFK’s team relied on two very solid arguments:

1) Dire predictions that the Soviets would “beat us to it” - again (memories of Sputnik were still alive!)
2) It was a defense-contract-like program that could be spread out to benefit the aerospace/tech/manufacturing sector with billions in Uncle Sam’s cash.

Win-win.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:29:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:30:13pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Quincy Adams had a pet alligator.
Teddy Roosevelt had lots of weird pets at the White House, including a zebra, a parrot, bears, a lion, a hyena, a coyote, rats, and a one-legged rooster.

Vlad has a pet shitgibbon but he doesn’t live in the Kremlin.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:30:33pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Trash family. Couldn’t even pay for his own engagement ring without it being a spectacle. Enjoy him, Kim, he’ll cheat on you too.

At the same time, while there are five kids involved and I feel for them, Vanessa walked into the marriage with her eyes open. And if she didn’t know, she’s out and out stupid.

I have little sympathy for her, or for Junior, who will hopefully spend the rest of his days behind bars.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:30:56pm

Mueller and the FBI haven’t been leaking at all so I’m 100% sure that Maggie’s entire basis for saying “appears to be the only one” comes from Trump’s lawyers, who have every reason to lie to her in a damage control effort. This is a minor thing but it’s another data point supporting my contention that she’s at best a mediocre journalist who really only cares about maintaining her access.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:31:16pm

re: #60 MsJ

When Trump was campaigning, a lot of really stupid people bought into the idea that because h’s rich, he can’t be bought, because he already has so much money. The problem with that is that rich people are rich, not because they don’t care about money, but rather because they care DEEPLY about money, and getting more money, and more money, and even more money.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:31:46pm

re: #82 MsJ

At the same time, while there are five kids involved and I feel for them, Vanessa walked into the marriage with her eyes open. And if she didn’t know, she’s out and out stupid.

I have little sympathy for her, or for Junior, who will hopefully spend the rest of his days behind bars.

Notta. I just feel bad for the kids. And I feel really bad for Barron because that orange pos is his father.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:33:33pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

Bush’s handler, Dick Cheney, was totally into self-enrichment when he was VP.

I was talking about the families but you are right. Man between Cheney, Palin, Ryan, & Pence. What a bunch of awful vetting. Only one qualified and he was a crooked asshole.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:33:39pm

Too bad, so sad.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:34:45pm

re: #87 MsJ

Too bad, so sad.

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Considering where morale was before the summit, it’s surprising they aren’t suicidal.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:35:43pm

re: #87 MsJ

Too bad, so sad.

[White House morale plummets after Trump’s presser with Putin: “People are just depressed”]

Depressed and packing, that’s what I want to hear.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:36:17pm

re: #87 MsJ

Too bad, so sad.

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Too fucking bad. We all saw him kissing Putin’s ass in 2016. You thought you signed up to MAGA, you actually MRGA.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:36:44pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

When Trump was campaigning, a lot of really stupid people bought into the idea that because h’s rich, he can’t be bought, because he already has so much money. The problem with that is that rich people are rich, not because they don’t care about money, but rather because they care DEEPLY about money, and getting more money, and more money, and even more money.

Except he wasn’t really rich (well, maybe, compared to me). It was all a sham. Now he’s getting rich. That’s the only thing that scares him—that his pre-election net worth could come out. Vlad could reveal it I’m sure….

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:36:45pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

When Trump was campaigning, a lot of really stupid people bought into the idea that because h’s rich, he can’t be bought, because he already has so much money. The problem with that is that rich people are rich, not because they don’t care about money, but rather because they care DEEPLY about money, and getting more money, and more money, and even more money.

IF (a big one) he was really all that rich.

Someone posted an interesting tweet or story (can’t remember source) about how Trump may be so indebted to Putin and his gang of Oligarchs who own him, all they do is give him enough money to appear to be rich. Keep up the appearances and when needed threaten him with disclosure for being a complete fraud and Trump does what they want.

It is an interesting theory.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:36:50pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Depressed and packing, that’s what I want to hear.

I hope they’re miserable and stabbing each other in the backs. They deserve this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:37:12pm

re: #88 Barefoot Grin

Considering where morale was before the summit, it’s surprising they aren’t suicidal.

Why don’t they leave and get other jobs?

Oh, yeah. Nobody wants to hire them.

Maybe they could just leave the time that they worked in the WH blank, say they’d been travelling, or taking a break from working to reassess their priorities. Hell, if they said they’d spent a year in Rehab, it’s probably better than saying they worked for Trump.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:37:26pm

I get a girly boner every damn time I see something associated with Mueller and Roger Fucking Stone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:37:41pm

weather is getting bumpy in the Greater Cincinnati area…here’s a really nice roll cloud:

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:37:53pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Depressed and packing, that’s what I want to hear.

I think you will be hearing a lot about that in the next month or so.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:38:03pm

re: #72 makeitstop

Thread.

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Found this interesting piece with accompanying video in the replies. Wowee.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:38:50pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

IF (a big one) he was really all that rich.

Someone posted an interesting tweet or story (can’t remember source) about how Trump may be so indebted to Putin and his gang of Oligarchs who own him, all they do is give him enough money to appear to be rich. Keep up the appearances and when needed threaten him with disclosure for being a complete fraud and Trump does what they want.

It is an interesting theory.

I think that’s interesting. Trump is very image conscientious. The truth about his real worth coming out would humiliate him but I think if there’s compromat, it’s on something that even his cult couldn’t forgive.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:39:12pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I hope they’re miserable and stabbing each other in the backs. They deserve this.

I hope they are also calling Mueller’s office and asking if they can have a talk about things.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:39:51pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

I hope they’re miserable and stabbing each other in the backs. They deserve this.

They’ve been miserable and stabbing each other in the back since the campaign. As a number of experienced political observers have said, happy people don’t leak.

The crazy thing is that Trump thinks the chaos and misery is a GOOD thing, and maybe it is, FOR HIM, because if everyone’s miserable and stabbing each other in the back, they won’t organize to stab HIM in the back.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:40:36pm

re: #98 JordanRules

Found this interesting piece with accompanying video in the replies. Wowee.

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If the Cold War actually isn’t over, wouldn’t that sort of defeat the Reagan myth. It may not be about economics anymore but it’s definitely a war of values.

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:40:45pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Depressed and packing, that’s what I want to hear.

Not that that wouldn’t be a satisfactory goal, but who will be replacing the departed staffers?

Unfortunately, as long as Donald Trump disgraces the Oval Office, there is likely to be an unlimited supply of venal sycophantic ass-kissing jerks willing to take the vacated jobs in order to do as much damage as they can before skating off to Wingnut Welfare Land…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:41:09pm

re: #101 Blind Frog Belly White

They’ve been miserable and stabbing each other in the back since the campaign. As a number of experienced political observers have said, happy people don’t leak.

The crazy thing is that Trump thinks the chaos and misery is a GOOD thing, and maybe it is, FOR HIM, because if everyone’s miserable and stabbing each other in the back, they won’t organize to stab HIM in the back.

Ah good point. True

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:42:19pm

re: #103 Jay C

Not that that wouldn’t be a satisfactory goal, but who will be replacing the departed staffers?

Unfortunately, as long as Donald Trump disgraces the Oval Office, there is likely to be an unlimited supply of venal sycophantic ass-kissing jerks willing to take the vacated jobs in order to do as much damage as they can before skating off to Wingnut Welfare Land…

Only until November, 2018. Then the ducks will be lining up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:42:42pm

re: #89 wrenchwench

Depressed and packing, that’s what I want to hear.

Packing boxes, yeah. Packing heat…not so much.
//

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:43:50pm

It’s a feature, not a bug.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:44:02pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

weather is getting bumpy in the Greater Cincinnati area…here’s a really nice roll cloud:

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I heard reports you are in the “severe” storm area. We are in the “heavy” area. Had one earlier this morning.

Stay safe!

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:44:05pm

Sweden forest fire saga, supplemental Fri evening:
o 61 fires according to SOS Alarm (112 operator).
o 4 deemed “inextinguishable”.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:44:44pm

re: #106 Blind Frog Belly White

Packing boxes, yeah. Packing heat…not so much.
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I had the thought, ‘Not that 2nd amendment ‘packing’, the 25th amendment kind.’ Then I had to start reading amendments to be sure I had the right one, then I quit.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:46:05pm

re: #92 ObserverArtTo

IF (a big one) he was really all that rich.

Someone posted an interesting tweet or story (can’t remember source) about how Trump may be so indebted to Putin and his gang of Oligarchs who own him, all they do is give him enough money to appear to be rich. Keep up the appearances and when needed threaten him with disclosure for being a complete fraud and Trump does what they want.

It is an interesting theory.

When people talk about what Putin has on Trump, this would be the top of my list. Trump would not be able to handle people thinking he wasn’t some stable genius business guy (he’s not) and that others have to prop him up so he can play rich guy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:46:57pm

I’m canvassing tomorrow. I was glad to learn the Wexton and Kaine campaigns are together so I’ll be campaigning for two candidates for the time of one. It’s an interesting situation since Kaine is our incumbent Senator but Wexton is challenging for Congress. That said, it’s great they’re working together. Comstock I don’t think has even formally endorsed the CSA time traveler yet.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:47:48pm

re: #107 lawhawk

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It’s a feature, not a bug.

That’s your party FNC. Don’t ever liken liberals to Nazis again when conservative Republicans are actually nominating Nazis.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:47:50pm

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

Why don’t they leave and get other jobs?

Oh, yeah. Nobody wants to hire them.

Maybe they could just leave the time that they worked in the WH blank, say they’d been travelling, or taking a break from working to reassess their priorities. Hell, if they said they’d spent a year in Rehab, it’s probably better than saying they worked for Trump.

That might work if you’re going for a job out of politics and possibly in Podunk, Nowhere. You are not going to get a job doing what you do or move up any ladder with the trump anchor attached to you unless you are someone whose name is visible often and Fox wingnut welfare might want you.

Other than that you are completely SOL.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:48:25pm

re: #111 MsJ

To

When people talk about what Putin has on Trump, this would be the top of my list. Trump would not be able to handle people thinking he wasn’t some stable genius business guy (he’s not) and that others have to prop him up so he can play rich guy.

I bet he has a dead hooker somewhere.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:49:11pm

re: #114 MsJ

That might work if you’re going for a job out of politics and possibly in Podunk, Nowhere. You are not going to get a job doing what you do or move up any ladder with the trump anchor attached to you unless you are someone whose name is visible often and Fox wingnut welfare might want you.

Other than that you are completely SOL.

“Welcome to Walmart!”

or,

“Would you like fries with that?”

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:50:23pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

I’m canvassing tomorrow.

**Bows down**

Will you be wearing a cape? Too warm? Drink plenty of water.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:50:24pm

re: #98 JordanRules

Found this interesting piece with accompanying video in the replies. Wowee.

Great article. As Bezmenov said 34 years ago, there are four stages to subversion. I believe the second stage, destabilization, started with the 2016 election. The third, crisis, will come with the election this November.

Once demoralization is completed, the second stage of ideological brainwashing is “destabilization”. During this two-to-five-year period, asserted Bezmenov, what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:51:03pm

re: #116 Blind Frog Belly White

“Welcome to Walmart!”

or,

“Would you like fries with that?”

I always call it “The Wall*Mart”. South Park flashback….

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:51:29pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Notta. I just feel bad for the kids. And I feel really bad for Barron because that orange pos is his father.

Barron is probably doomed to become a soulless asshole like his father. He and Tiffany are the only ones I hold out any hope for. And with Tiffany just because she dodged her vile father’s kiss after a debate. Betcha Can’t Kiss Me: Tiffany Trump deftly dodges daddy’s post debate kiss

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:52:29pm

re: #107 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:52:43pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

**Bows down**

Will you be wearing a cape? Too warm? Drink plenty of water.

It’s actually supposed to be pretty mild here tomorrow. I’ll more likely need a rain jacket if the forecast holds and I’m losing weight and eating better again.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:52:58pm

LOL He has some nerve.
And folks are letting him know in the replies.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:55:18pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

It’s actually supposed to be pretty mild here tomorrow. I’ll more likely need a rain jacket if the forecast holds and I’m losing weight and eating better again.

Rain cape! I have one of those. Visibility yellow… Room to carry a clipboard.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:55:21pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

**Bows down**

Will you be wearing a cape? Too warm? Drink plenty of water.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:55:24pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I bet he has a dead hooker somewhere.

His fans wouldn’t give one shit about a dead hooker. (and I include his fans in Congress)

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:55:47pm

re: #123 JordanRules

LOL He has some nerve.
And folks are letting him know in the replies.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:56:10pm

re: #111 MsJ

To

When people talk about what Putin has on Trump, this would be the top of my list. Trump would not be able to handle people thinking he wasn’t some stable genius business guy (he’s not) and that others have to prop him up so he can play rich guy.

Yes, I’ve heard the honeypot-type stuff happens, but they really work more like organized crime anywhere—lend more money than can be paid off, and when the victim wants to pay back they say, “don’t worry, we’ll settle later.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:56:34pm

re: #126 BeachDem

His fans wouldn’t give one shit about a dead hooker. (and I include his fans in Congress)

Okay then I’m stumped

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:57:01pm

re: #126 BeachDem

His fans wouldn’t give one shit about a dead hooker. (and I include his fans in Congress)

Nor would his totally Christian followers.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:57:37pm

re: #124 wrenchwench

Rain cape! I have one of those. Visibility yellow… Room to carry a clipboard.

A lot is digital now. I used Minivan in the primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:57:59pm

re: #130 MsJ

Nor would his totally Christian followers.

You both are right.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 20, 2018 • 12:59:03pm

re: #121 MsJ

Oh yeah, they just slipped through the primaries, with no help at all… I could see it happening if the candidate was totally on the downlow before campaigning and such, but these fuckers are proud of their nasty shit. Oh yeah, it was accidental…sure it was….fucking snowflakes can’t take credit for the shit they wanted when it happens just like they hoped.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:00:53pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Okay then I’m stumped

BDSM, with him as the submissive. It would totally ruin his tough guy image.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:01:47pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

BDSM, with him as the submissive. It would totally ruin his tough guy image.

Ah!

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:02:10pm

re: #123 JordanRules

LOL He has some nerve.
And folks are letting him know in the replies.

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Looks like a really low rent “MeToo” movement.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:03:30pm

re: #136 ObserverArt

Looks like a really low rent “MeToo” movement.

I too had people actually hold me accountable as a journalist./// Even though I don’t care when POTUS calls my profession the enemy of the people.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:04:11pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

BDSM, with him as the submissive. It would totally ruin his tough guy image.

Nope. Stormy already revealed that with the magazine ass tapping.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:04:32pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:06:01pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

A lot is digital now. I used Minivan in the primaries.

I thought for a sec your rain protection was digital.

OK, no more clipboards. I can get used to that… Am I too old to canvass?

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:08:48pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Okay then I’m stumped

It’s about money—or the lack thereof. Remember, even back in 2011 when they did the roast at Comedy Central:

For Trump, jokes about his creepy relationship with his daughter, his infamous haircut, his failed steaks, failed casinos, and failed marriages were fair game. But when it came to his wealth, Trump sternly requested comedians not take a stab at his net worth.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:09:17pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

I thought for a sec your rain protection was digital.

OK, no more clipboards. I can get used to that… Am I too old to canvass?

I’m a quarter Irish. I endure rain naturally. But yeah a lot is digital now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:09:40pm

re: #141 BeachDem

It’s about money—or the lack thereof. Remember, even back in 2011 when they did the roast at Comedy Central:

For Trump, jokes about his creepy relationship with his daughter, his infamous haircut, his failed steaks, failed casinos, and failed marriages were fair game. But when it came to his wealth, Trump sternly requested comedians not take a stab at his net worth.

Ah good point.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:11:11pm

re: #95 MsJ

I get a girly boner every damn time I see something associated with Mueller and Roger Fucking Stone.

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TMZ: never read the comments.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:12:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:13:21pm

Mrs. FBW has decided she wants a puppy. She’s combing Craig’s List and similar places for them. We talked about what we did and didn’t want. I suggested she look for something Spaniel/Setter/Retriever-ish, because what she REALLY wants is another Golden, but the whole business of buying a purebred Golden is both expensive and full of potential pitfalls.

So, she’s looking for a mixed breed puppy. We discussed what we DON’T want - no Chihuahua, no terrier, no mastiff, no dachshund. Should have added no spitz. Nothing with curly fur that covers/gets in the eyes. No pit bulls.

I was suggesting Rango would be ‘Uncle Rango’, but Mrs. FBW said, “Won’t he be Big Brother Rango?” Rango and Zeena were cousins, with her about 4 years older, and she always acted like the Fun Police, so I thought of her as like Rango’s prim, strict, maiden aunt. Hence Uncle Rango, the ne’er-do-well uncle who gives you a sip of his beer, or tells dirty jokes when your Mom’s not around, or somehow knows an awful lot about card games…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:14:24pm

re: #138 JordanRules

Nope. Stormy already revealed that with the magazine ass tapping.

Oh, that’s mild.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:16:48pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Notta. I just feel bad for the kids. And I feel really bad for Barron because that orange pos is his father.

I feel bad for the country. Fuck his kids.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:17:49pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, that’s mild.

Photo of him with ball gag.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:18:12pm

re: #148 Skip Intro

I feel bad for the country. Fuck his kids.

I only feel bad for the one but it pales in comparision to the kids his father has screwed up due to his xenophobic policies.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:18:47pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

Photo of him with ball gag.

Photo of him in fishnets and lipstick. But then again Rudy did drag too.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:18:59pm

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

TMZ: never read the comments.

I have to be honest…that this is on TMZ to start with is kinda something.

Something that it may or not be true.

Something that this is a pal of trump’s site - so how did this slip by?

I iz cornfuzed.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:19:13pm

re: #107 lawhawk

Since when is Fox against bigots and Nazis?

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:19:28pm

When you’ve lost Henry Kissinger…
Financial Times: Henry Kissinger: ‘We are in a very, very grave period’

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:19:57pm

re: #154 Teukka

When you’ve lost Henry Kissinger…
Financial Times: Henry Kissinger: ‘We are in a very, very grave period’

HE WAS HILLARY’S MENATOR. //

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:20:04pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW has decided she wants a puppy. She’s combing Craig’s List and similar places for them. We talked about what we did and didn’t want. I suggested she look for something Spaniel/Setter/Retriever-ish, because what she REALLY wants is another Golden, but the whole business of buying a purebred Golden is both expensive and full of potential pitfalls.

So, she’s looking for a mixed breed puppy. We discussed what we DON’T want - no Chihuahua, no terrier, no mastiff, no dachshund. Should have added no spitz. Nothing with curly fur that covers/gets in the eyes. No pit bulls.

I was suggesting Rango would be ‘Uncle Rango’, but Mrs. FBW said, “Won’t he be Big Brother Rango?” Rango and Zeena were cousins, with her about 4 years older, and she always acted like the Fun Police, so I thought of her as like Rango’s prim, strict, maiden aunt. Hence Uncle Rango, the ne’er-do-well uncle who gives you a sip of his beer, or tells dirty jokes when your Mom’s not around, or somehow knows an awful lot about card games…

Rescue. Please. They have puppies of all breeds and types…mixes. Actual breed rescues or animal control.

Save a life. Every furry darling deserves a loving family.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:20:14pm

re: #126 BeachDem

Or a live boy.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:20:59pm

re: #139 MsJ

If only there was picture of her with Dana Muhgunz. If only.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:21:42pm

re: #154 Teukka

When you’ve lost Henry Kissinger…
Financial Times:

Kissinger: we’re in a very, very grave period….

It’s like that line from the old Shake n Bake commercials where the kid comes running up and shouts “and I helped!”

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:23:11pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:23:44pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

HE WAS HILLARY’S MENATOR. //

Hillary was in deep with neocons…and anyone that gives the time of day to Kissinger is not to be trusted!!!

Bernie wouldn’t do that.

I wish I had a dollar for all the times I heard or saw stuff like that…

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:24:02pm

I gotta sit with this info for a minute. Puts a whole new spin on being at war with ourselves.

Mexico is 2nd with 2.2 billion rounds.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:25:37pm

re: #130 MsJ

Nor would his totally KKKristian followers.

Think that’s more accurate!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:26:53pm

re: #161 ObserverArt

Hillary was in deep with neocons…and anyone that gives the time of day to Kissinger is not to be trusted!!!

Bernie wouldn’t do that.

I wish I had a dollar for all the times I heard or saw stuff like that…

The funny thing is Kissinger isn’t and has never been associated with the Neo-Cons. I had to correct my Dad a lot when he misused the word in the Bush years.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:27:27pm

re: #162 JordanRules

I gotta sit with this info for a minute. Puts a whole new spin on being at war with ourselves.

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Mexico is 2nd with 2.2 billion rounds.

She was using Jesus to get to the right wing morons.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:27:46pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

HE WAS HILLARY’S MENATOR. //

Not Ariadne’s?
//

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:29:31pm

re: #87 MsJ

Too bad, so sad.

False, John Miller and John Barron have phoned in to numerous media folks to say all is fine.

///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:31:50pm
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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:33:03pm

re: #165 HappyWarrior

She was using Jesus to get to the right wing morons.

Yeah the guns, the god and the white glory…got all that. It’s that ammo industry bit that’s blowing my mind.
They weren’t just using our racism, sexism against us, but our gun sickness too. And making strategic alliances with the corrupt organization that exists to make sure we can keep killing ourselves with their bullets.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:34:13pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

The funny thing is Kissinger isn’t and has never been associated with the Neo-Cons. I had to correct my Dad a lot when he misused the word in the Bush years.

Yeah. If you notice, I referenced neocons and then Henry.

But you are right, most of the people put them all together as one big bad.

Another name in that mix, because he endorsed Hillary (she asked for it!!!) was John Negroponte.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:34:18pm

re: #169 JordanRules

Yeah the guns, the god and the white glory…got all that. It’s that ammo industry bit that’s blowing my mind.
They weren’t just using our racism, sexism against us, but our gun sickness too. And making strategic alliances with the corrupt organization that exists to make sure we can keep killing ourselves with their bullets.

I’m telling you. The old Soviet farts in their Dachas are in awe about how Vladimir Vladimirovich was able to do what they couldn’t.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:34:47pm

What has gotten into Chris Cillizza? This is actually a good article.

I am frightened. Someone hold me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:35:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:35:03pm

re: #170 ObserverArt

Yeah. If you notice, I referenced neocons and then Henry.

But you are right, most of the people put them all together as one big bad.

Another name in that mix, because he endorsed Hillary (she asked for it!!!) was John Negroponte.

Oh I know, I wasn’t trying to imply you didn’t, I was more referencing that any person who is hawkish is seen as a neo-conservative by that element.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:36:06pm

re: #108 ObserverArt

I heard reports you are in the “severe” storm area. We are in the “heavy” area. Had one earlier this morning.

Stay safe!

view outside my kitchen door right now:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:36:25pm

re: #172 MsJ

What has gotten into Chris Cillizza? This is actually a good article.

I am frightened. Someone hold me.

Truly. He’s supposed to say this is no big deal, Dems have Drump derangement syndrome.

/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:36:34pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

You’re not really shameless if you’re obsessed with cultivating and maintaining your image, especially if your wealth depends on it.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:37:24pm

re: #173 Blind Frog Belly White

I do kind of wonder why he bothered paying her. Maybe he didn’t realize at that time how slavish his followers were becoming.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:37:30pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

view outside my kitchen door right now:

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Eeep! That’s mammatus, isn’t it?

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:38:06pm

re: #169 JordanRules

Yeah the guns, the god and the white glory…got all that. It’s that ammo industry bit that’s blowing my mind.
They weren’t just using our racism, sexism against us, but our gun sickness too. And making strategic alliances with the corrupt organization that exists to make sure we can keep killing ourselves with their bullets.

Remember this? All the Russians had to do is mine this quote. They knew how much that triggered their targeted assistants…our conservatives.

“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations”

Read more at: brainyquote.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:38:15pm

re: #179 Chrysicat

Eeep! That’s mammatus, isn’t it?

Not quite, but looking like it wants to be mammatus soon.

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The Major  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:38:20pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Bush II had a black cat.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:39:13pm

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Great article. As Bezmenov said 34 years ago, there are four stages to subversion. I believe the second stage, destabilization, started with the 2016 election. The third, crisis, will come with the election this November.

To expand a little, the Russo-publican axis will not accept a major defeat in November. They have been preparing the ammosexual masses for a violent outburst for many years and some recent events, the constant yammering about “leftist violence” and the Bundy pardon, for example, could be seen as fine tuning.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:40:37pm

Holey. Fucking. Shite.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:41:24pm

re: #176 Sir John Barron

Truly. He’s supposed to say this is no big deal, Dems have Drump derangement syndrome.

/

The world these days is so upside down I am spinning.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:41:59pm

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:42:34pm

re: #184 Teukka

Holey. Fucking. Shite.

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That just feels like it was written for Alec Baldwin playing Trump on SNL.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:42:52pm

re: #186 Skip Intro

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That’s damn funny.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:45:46pm

re: #178 Sir John Barron

I do kind of wonder why he bothered paying her. Maybe he didn’t realize at that time how slavish his followers were becoming.

Because of a pre-nup?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:45:47pm

Fucking Bernie. The shit just keeps rising to the top.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:47:20pm

re: #183 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

To expand a little, the Russo-publican axis will not accept a major defeat in November. They have been preparing the ammosexual masses for a violent outburst for many years and some recent events, the constant yammering about “leftist violence” and the Bundy pardon, for example, could be seen as fine tuning.

Unfortunately, that’s what it’s going to take. There will be an outbreak of mindless violence against any innocent (and easy) targets perceived as “liberal” or “elite” or “immigrant” or black or gay or non-KKKristian, etc., etc., etc.

It will have to be brutally suppressed and perhaps then we can start to move on.

Or…government and law enforcement will embrace, encourage, and join it. I’m about 50-50 on that at this point.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:47:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:47:38pm

re: #190 MsJ

Fucking Bernie. The shit just keeps rising to the top.

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The fucked up thing is Devine is just as establishment as HRC was.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:49:03pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

The fucked up thing is Devine is just as establishment as HRC was.

Devine is in Manafort’s contact list with numerous emails exchanged before the election.

Devine is the one who “accidentally” downloaded the DNC database.

Establishment is not what I would call him. Not at all.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:49:50pm

I get railing against the establishment but when you’re an ultimate Washington insider as Devine and to some extent Bernie himself was, fuck that noise. Bernie got to Washington before HRC did and I’d be shocked if most of the gullible college students that fell head over heels for Bernie knew that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:50:35pm

re: #194 MsJ

Devine is in Manafort’s contact list with numerous emails exchanged before the election.

Devine is the one who “accidentally” downloaded the DNC database.

Establishment is not what I would call him. Not at all.

I meant with his resume. Like Manafort, he’s been at this game a long time. He’s a fucker and I definitely think he had some kind of grudge against Clinton that made him do what he did with Manafort.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:50:48pm

Ah…Hmmm. Hard to imagine Wilford Brimley as an action hero at any age, though, tbh.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:51:01pm

This is depressing. I don’t know how anyone else sees this question but I don’t think Schumer is anywhere near effective as Pelosi. Yet this is 60/40 Schumer. Why?

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:51:03pm

re: #194 MsJ

Devine is in Manafort’s contact list with numerous emails exchanged before the election.

Devine is the one who “accidentally” downloaded the DNC database.

Establishment is not what I would call him. Not at all.

In the sense that they were using it to smear Hillary he is.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:52:08pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

I meant with his resume. Like Manafort, he’s been at this game a long time. He’s a fucker and I definitely think he had some kind of grudge against Clinton that made him do what he did with Manafort.

I think there are other options here.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:52:18pm

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

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Ah…Hmmm. Hard to imagine Wilford Brimley as an action hero at any age, though, tbh.

Fun fact, Wilford Brimley was born the way he looks now. All joking aside, yeah I can’t believe he’s under 50 in The Thing. And I don’t think it’s due to a hard living lifestyle. He’s a pretty devout Mormon IIRC.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:52:36pm

re: #200 MsJ

I think there are other options here.

$$$$ possibly?

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:53:13pm

re: #192 MsJ

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No shit, this is crazy!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:53:19pm

re: #198 MsJ

This is depressing. I don’t know how anyone else sees this question but I don’t think Schumer is anywhere near effective as Pelosi. Yet this is 60/40 Schumer. Why?

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Candidate for what?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:53:22pm

re: #199 JordanRules

In the sense that they were using it to smear Hillary he is.

Yeah what I mean is that this is a guy who’s been working on mainstream Democratic presidential campaigns since I was a toddler. Bernie is establishment too. As I said, Jane and Bernie actually got to Washington before Bill and Hill did.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:54:17pm

re: #198 MsJ

This is depressing. I don’t know how anyone else sees this question but I don’t think Schumer is anywhere near effective as Pelosi. Yet this is 60/40 Schumer. Why?

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I don’t see the point of the question.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:54:22pm

re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White

Candidate for what?

Yeah i don’t see either as Presidential material. Good at what they do and hopefully the future Speaker and Majority leader.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:54:46pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

$$$$ possibly?

This is likely unpopular but I think Bernie is shady af in terms of Russia. That his top strategist is communicating with Manafort gives me pause. Then he went and stole the stuff from the DNC…while Bernie was doing his thing and Russia was doing theirs.

I have always wondered about Bernie (just as I have Jill Stein).

I do not believe in coincidences.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:54:56pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

I don’t see the point of the question.

I don’t either. We should be working to make sure both are the heads of hte majority in Congress. That’s why I was so glad about the Wexton-Kaine cooperation here in VA-10.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:55:45pm

re: #208 MsJ

This is likely unpopular but I think Bernie is shady af in terms of Russia. That his top strategist is communicating with Manafort gives me pause. Then he went and stole the stuff from the DNC…while Bernie was doing his thing and Russia was doing theirs.

I have always wondered about Bernie (just as I have Jill Stein).

I do not believe in coincidences.

Yeah I don’t think it’s as crazy as I once thought. I did see Bernie unlike other Dems pretty much accepted Trump’s pathetic explanation.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:56:29pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Maggie’s tweet didn’t even survive one fucking hour before other reporting debunked her “appears to be the only one” idiocy.

Seriously, how fucking credulous must a person be to swallow and regurgitate that shit.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:56:49pm

re: #190 MsJ

Fucking Bernie. The shit just keeps rising to the top.

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If we learned anything over the last 18 months, an establishment pick (i.e., someone with experience) should always be preferred over someone that has little to no experience holding political office.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:58:26pm

re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White

Candidate for what?

Assumingly house and senate leader (that’s what I read).

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:58:31pm

I try talking to the Bernie people I know well and they just say they wanted a change. And maybe I get that a little but when you can’t tell me about Bernie’s actual accomplishments in Congress, you do lose me. I can name what HRC has worked on. A nice voting record is just that but it doesn’t tell the whole story not to mention that Bernie’s record on immigration I don’t think I even need to bring up his record on guns is poor to say the least. He had Steve King praising him on that at one point. That should tell you. And you know what, it’s sad because Bernie ought to know goddamn better about the good immigrants do for the economy considering he loved bragging about being from Brooklyn when he would be in NYC. At least HRC actually embraced NYC’s Inclusionary values rather than blaming immigrants for taking jobs which is something Bernie has done but I digress.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:58:53pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Yeah i don’t see either as Presidential material. Good at what they do and hopefully the future Speaker and Majority leader.

I liked Harry Reid as Majority/Minority leader better than Schumer, but I’m not DISsatisfied.

Nancy? You show me a more capable legislative leader in the last 1/4 century. But we should replace her with someone else because … reasons.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:59:35pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

I don’t see the point of the question.

I don’t either, really. I was just saying, based on the responses (and how I read it; as an effective leader), it was depressing to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:59:44pm

re: #160 Chrysicat

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when she was a newborn, he mused about what kind of boobs Tiffany would have later.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 1:59:45pm

re: #213 MsJ

Assumingly house and senate leader (that’s what I read).

I honestly don’t get why so many lefties hate Pelosi. I mean maybe we do need a new guard at some point but if we regain the House with her, she should be speaker. And I prefer her to Schumer too and I like Schumer more than I did Reid.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:00:34pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

I liked Harry Reid as Majority/Minority leader better than Schumer, but I’m not DISsatisfied.

Nancy? You show me a more capable legislative leader in the last 1/4 century. But we should replace her with someone else because … reasons.

I actually like Chuck better. But it would be interesting to have their roles flip. Pelosi is great.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:00:49pm

Heh. Jonathan Swan from Axios just said on Nicole Wallace’s MSNBC show. Slight paraphrasing.

“It is getting hard to report (on the White House), no one knows anything.”

An just before that he was making faces of Trump staff going “I don’t know” in response to what-is-Trump-up-to questions.

Sounds like we are at a point where Trump has finally reached the stage of maximum chaos. Next stage should be coming completely apart. The whole White House has no idea what he is up to here or there, or anywhere.

Actually the whole Federal Government has no idea what Trump is up to.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:02:50pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

I liked Harry Reid as Majority/Minority leader better than Schumer, but I’m not DISsatisfied.

Nancy? You show me a more capable legislative leader in the last 1/4 century. But we should replace her with someone else because … reasons.

Female reasons.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:03:17pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

when she was a newborn, he mused about what kind of boobs Tiffany would have later.

Seriously? OMG, that’s just gross.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:04:01pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

I liked Harry Reid as Majority/Minority leader better than Schumer, but I’m not DISsatisfied.

Nancy? You show me a more capable legislative leader in the last 1/4 century. But we should replace her with someone else because … reasons.

I agree. I miss Reid a lot. I am not really satisfied with Schumer. I think we could have a much better Speaker but it’s not a huge priority for me and he isn’t horrible.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:05:38pm

re: #223 JordanRules

I agree. I miss Reid a lot. I am not really satisfied with Schumer. I think we could have a much better Speaker but it’s not a huge priority for me and he isn’t horrible.

I dunno. I’ve kind of warmed up to Schumer in some ways.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:05:53pm

re: #222 MsJ

Seriously? OMG, that’s just gross.

Surprised you missed that but yeah.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:06:44pm

re: #222 MsJ

It’s true.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:06:46pm

What we have to acknowledge as liberals and I know no one here denies it but that sexism, xenophobia, racism, and homophobia can and do exist within the left.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:06:50pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Maggie’s tweet didn’t even survive one fucking hour before other reporting debunked her “appears to be the only one” idiocy.

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Seriously, how fucking credulous must a person be to swallow and regurgitate that shit.

I found it so odd that she added that to her tweet. As soon as I read it I knew it wouldn’t end well.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:06:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:06:56pm

re: #198 MsJ

This is depressing. I don’t know how anyone else sees this question but I don’t think Schumer is anywhere near effective as Pelosi. Yet this is 60/40 Schumer. Why?

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doh…Pelosi is not a man…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:07:41pm

re: #223 JordanRules

I agree. I miss Reid a lot. I am not really satisfied with Schumer. I think we could have a much better Speaker but it’s not a huge priority for me and he isn’t horrible.

Schumer is a Senator. Pelosi is a Congesswoman. What are they candidates for in this poll? The Apples-and-Oranges Leader?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:08:08pm

re: #223 JordanRules

I agree. I miss Reid a lot. I am not really satisfied with Schumer. I think we could have a much better Speaker but it’s not a huge priority for me and he isn’t horrible.

I don’t love either one (Reid or Schumer). I wish both had the balls Pelosi does and were as effective as she is.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:08:32pm

re: #231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Schumer is a Senator. Pelosi is a Congesswoman. What are they candidates for in this poll? The Apples-and-Oranges Leader?

Yeah it’s silly. I’d hope that both would be in line to be Speaker and Majority Leader. Would I rather the House or the Senate maybe is the poorly phrased question here but I dunno.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:08:34pm

re: #231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Schumer is a Senator. Pelosi is a Congesswoman. What are they candidates for in this poll? The Apples-and-Oranges Leader?

I don’t know. I think the poll is stupid and weird.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:08:49pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Maggie’s tweet didn’t even survive one fucking hour before other reporting debunked her “appears to be the only one” idiocy.

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Seriously, how fucking credulous must a person be to swallow and regurgitate that shit.

I’m still stunned that someone is using Rudy as a source to confirm anything.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:09:23pm

re: #232 MsJ

I don’t love either one (Reid or Schumer). I wish both had the balls Pelosi does and were as effective as she is.

One of her finest hours that none of her purer than thou detractors give her credit for is rallying opposition to the Iraq War Resolution in 2003. I still get lefty blockheads who insist that Nancy supported the invasion.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:09:45pm

re: #231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Schumer is a Senator. Pelosi is a Congesswoman. What are they candidates for in this poll? The Apples-and-Oranges Leader?

It’s not apples and oranges if you consider they are both leaders of their respective “houses”.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:09:51pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t get why so many lefties hate Pelosi. I mean maybe we do need a new guard at some point but if we regain the House with her, she should be speaker. And I prefer her to Schumer too and I like Schumer more than I did Reid.

Maybe if we elect another leader the conservatives will like us.

/

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:10:59pm

re: #198 MsJ

This guy seems to like to put out “polls”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:11:16pm

re: #222 MsJ

Seriously? OMG, that’s just gross.

Howard Stern show, IIRC

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:11:17pm

re: #234 JordanRules

I don’t know. I think the poll is stupid and weird.

Agreed. I posted it as a discussion point.

(I do that shit from time to time. :-) I think it’s interesting to see what other people think.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:11:46pm

re: #221 MsJ

Female reasons.

Which is really fucking disappointing to see from Progressives. Then again, their hero in the last election was the OTHER old, shouty white guy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:12:27pm

usatoday.com

This really shouldn’t shock anyone who understands international relations and how Putin’s strategy works.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:12:40pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still stunned that someone is using Rudy as a source to confirm anything.

How could she have used Rudy when he, like immediately, came out and said there were more tapes and they would be exculpatory? I didn’t read the article (I am maxed out on NYT for this month) but I saw what he said almost right after what she said.

Damn. Shit comes at you fast these days.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:12:43pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

LOL, Maggie’s tweet didn’t even survive one fucking hour before other reporting debunked her “appears to be the only one” idiocy.

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Seriously, how fucking credulous must a person be to swallow and regurgitate that shit.

Michael Avenatti said there were numerous tapes months ago. I guess Mags doesn’t follow fake news sources like that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:12:44pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Howard Stern show, IIRC

Yes.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:13:05pm

re: #241 MsJ

Agreed. I posted it as a discussion point.

(I do that shit from time to time. :-) I think it’s interesting to see what other people think.)

No doubt. I do it all the time. It wasn’t an indictment on you.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:14:59pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

I honestly don’t get why so many lefties hate Pelosi. I mean maybe we do need a new guard at some point but if we regain the House with her, she should be speaker. And I prefer her to Schumer too and I like Schumer more than I did Reid.

You probably know why a lot of lefties hated Hillary, right?

Then you also know a good part of why they hate Nancy Pelosi.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:15:17pm

re: #232 MsJ

I don’t love either one (Reid or Schumer). I wish both had the balls Pelosi does and were as effective as she is.

I used to feel the same way about Reid but he grew on me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:16:46pm

re: #232 MsJ

I don’t love either one (Reid or Schumer). I wish both had the balls Pelosi does and were as effective as she is.

I think part of Pelosi’s effectiveness has to do with being in the House. It’s simple majoritarian, and Representatives have fewer prerogatives and ways of stopping/delaying/holding hostage. And the House tends to be much more ideological, because each member represents a smaller district. Senators have to win an entire state.

But, yeah, Nancy kicks ass.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:18:15pm

re: #248 ObserverArt

You probably know why a lot of lefties hated Hillary, right?

Then you also know a good part of why they hate Nancy Pelosi.

The fucking clown that posted that poll thinks Pelosi is gone if we retake the house. I just said GLWT.

I hate fucking lefties sometimes.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:18:38pm

re: #249 JordanRules

I used to feel the same way about Reid but he grew on me.

I liked Reid enough personally. I do not think he was effective.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:18:49pm

re: #248 ObserverArt

You probably know why a lot of lefties hated Hillary, right?

Then you also know a good part of why they hate Nancy Pelosi.

You are correct, that was a naive post.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:19:08pm

re: #251 MsJ

The fucking clown that posted that poll thinks Pelosi is gone if we retake the house. I just said GLWT.

I hate fucking lefties sometimes.

We are our own worst enemy.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:19:12pm

re: #239 Skip Intro

This guy seems to like to put out “polls”.

Just looking at it now… something seems off with that account.
Using the word candidate the way he did. Acting like the poll is important for something he won’t say what. And inviting folks to discuss (argue) about it.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:20:17pm

Hey, it’s almost indictment-thirty, isn’t it?

Nothing would wind up my day better than a nice indictment. Someone from in the White House, maybe…

(/wishful thinking)

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TedStriker  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:20:44pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Fun fact, Wilford Brimley was born the way he looks now. All joking aside, yeah I can’t believe he’s under 50 in The Thing. And I don’t think it’s due to a hard living lifestyle. He’s a pretty devout Mormon IIRC.

Some people are just “born old”; I’d put Sam Elliott in that column with Brimley.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:20:50pm

re: #252 MsJ

I liked Reid enough personally. I do not think he was effective.

Personally I thought Reid was good as an minority leader in the Bush years. I mean I get the need for new leadership but I’m not tossing Nancy to the side just because because. And I wasn’t impressed with Tim Ryan who challenged her last winter. I know you like him OA and I think he’s a decent enough guy but what has he really done to earn a party leader spot?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:21:37pm

re: #255 JordanRules

Just looking at it now… something seems off with that account.
Using the word candidate the way he did. Acting like the poll is important for something he won’t say what. And inviting folks to discuss (argue) about it.

I am starting to get that feel.

I did look at his TL before posting it.

I think we are in for a lot of trouble this election. Social media is going to kill us.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:21:56pm

re: #257 TedStriker

Some people are just “born old”…Brimley has been the same age (roughly) for 50 years.

Yeah. There are other people like that too. As you know, I’m a baseball fan, I cannot believe Earl Weaver is under 50 in most of the clips I’ve seen of him. It’s the premature gray I guess definitely added by smoking and arguing with Blue.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:22:04pm

re: #252 MsJ

I liked Reid enough personally. I do not think he was effective.

Yeah, my assessment of him was about his effectiveness too.
I wasn’t judging any of them on ‘have a beer with’. Though I would love to have a drink with Nancy.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:22:40pm

re: #261 JordanRules

Though I would love to have a drink with Nancy.

You and me both. Hillary, too.

It would be a great honor, honestly.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:22:56pm

re: #259 MsJ

I am starting to get that feel.

I did look at his TL before posting it.

I think we are in for a lot of trouble this election. Social media is going to kill us.

Agreed. I’m really worried. I don’t think we are ready.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:24:07pm

re: #261 JordanRules

Yeah, my assessment of him was about his effectiveness too.
I wasn’t judging any of them on ‘have a beer with’. Though I would love to have a drink with Nancy.

Nancy and I would talk baseball lol. Her old man’s part of why Baltimore got the O’s. She’s a tough lady. Reminds me of my Dad’s oldest sister who is around the same age in that regard. We call my Aunt, Sarge without irony. The funny thing is Dad’s other sister is the total opposite in personality and much like my Nana was. Both great ladies but I would not want to get into a war of words or wits with my oldest Aunt.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:25:46pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Personally I thought Reid was good as an minority leader in the Bush years. I mean I get the need for new leadership but I’m not tossing Nancy to the side just because because. And I wasn’t impressed with Tim Ryan who challenged her last winter. I know you like him OA and I think he’s a decent enough guy but what has he really done to earn a party leader spot?

I’m still on the fence about Ryan. He can be a bit too abrasive in his comments. But he is from Youngstown/Warren area (Niles) and rough and tumble is a big part of that part of Ohio.

Might as well be from Pittsburgh…or Jersey!

I always tell people…there are huge differences between the three major “C” cities in Ohio. Over 100 miles apart and worlds away in attitude.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:25:53pm

I guess this seniority stuff is why I understand why some do want Biden and I get it especially since Biden would be better than anyone to restore our rep abroad. Before Obama picked him to be his running mate, I thought Biden and not HRC would have been the perfect SoS choice. Liked Kerry who got it later too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:28:05pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

I’m still on the fence about Ryan. He can be a bit too abrasive in his comments. But he is from Youngstown/Warren area (Niles) and rough and tumble is a big part of that part of Ohio.

Might as well be from Pittsburgh…or Jersey!

I always tell people…there are huge differences between the three major “C” cities in Ohio. Over 100 miles apart and worlds away in attitude.

Yeah Cincy is very Southern culturally isn’t it? But yeah my grandfather had an aunt that lived in Youngstown. Of the C’s, Cleveland would probably be the most appealing to me I guess. I kind of like cities like that. I tease Cleveland because I’m a Pittsburgh fan but you know that I have a soft spot for it because of Guyer and my family connections there.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:28:22pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

I guess this seniority stuff is why I understand why some do want Biden and I get it especially since Biden would be better than anyone to restore our rep abroad. Before Obama picked him to be his running mate, I thought Biden and not HRC would have been the perfect SoS choice. Liked Kerry who got it later too.

I would have loved it had Clinton been Veep.

I think a black dude and a woman would have been a bit too much for some folks.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:30:42pm

re: #154 Teukka

When you’ve lost Henry Kissinger…
Financial Times: Henry Kissinger: ‘We are in a very, very grave period’

I saw Kissinger and grave in the same sentence together, but after after a brief moment I was disappointed.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:31:14pm

re: #268 MsJ

I would have loved it had Clinton been Veep.

I think a black dude and a woman would have been a bit too much for some folks.

Yes, they were. Together or separately.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:33:11pm

re: #268 MsJ

I would have loved it had Clinton been Veep.

I think a black dude and a woman would have been a bit too much for some folks.

It might nave been yeah. Kaine got vetted for that job too but he thought he was too inexperienced with federal politics at that time. I like Kaine but he’s not presidential timber. “Too nice.” He’s often compared to Biden in some ways but I think Joe is more a street fighter type and Senator Kaine more easy going. They’re both great guys mind you and I love havign Kaine as my Senator but I don’t know if he’d be our best pick for President.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:33:40pm

re: #269 BlueSpotinAL

I saw Kissinger and grave in the same sentence together, but after after a brief moment I was disappointed.

Yeah I hear ya. A lot of good men and women he’s outlived.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:35:04pm

re: #267 HappyWarrior

Yeah Cincy is very Southern culturally isn’t it? But yeah my grandfather had an aunt that lived in Youngstown. Of the C’s, Cleveland would probably be the most appealing to me I guess. I kind of like cities like that. I tease Cleveland because I’m a Pittsburgh fan but you know that I have a soft spot for it because of Guyer and my family connections there.

You’d like Columbus too. It is a business, government, education city. Much newer and cleaner than Cleveland due to growth from 1970 on.

You’d probably see it much like DC/Northern Virginia.

But I love Cleveland a lot too. I followed Cleveland TV all through my youth…so I follow the teams and the people and the city has made a pretty good turn…sort of like Pittsburgh in that sense.

Columbus really is very low key for reasons “power” town. The money, connections and all that is very strong here. We are so tied to the Fed government, but it is all very low key. It is that way by plan. Everyone can just fly over…but they’d be surprised who stops here.

(Yeah, I know there is a new thread…)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:36:16pm

re: #268 MsJ

I would have loved it had Clinton been Veep.

I think a black dude and a woman would have been a bit too much for some folks.

Shit, a black dude was too much for about 35% of the country.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:39:30pm

re: #273 ObserverArt

You’d like Columbus too. It is a business, government, education city. Much newer and cleaner than Cleveland due to growth from 1970 on.

You’d probably see it much like DC/Northern Virginia.

But I love Cleveland a lot too. I followed Cleveland TV all through my youth…so I follow the teams and the people and the city has made a pretty good turn…sort of like Pittsburgh in that sense.

Columbus really is very low key for reasons “power” town. The money, connections and all that is very strong here. We are so tied to the Fed government, but it is all very low key. It is that way by plan. Everyone can just fly over…but they’d be surprised who stops here.

(Yeah, I know there is a new thread…)

Columbus just seems like what I’d know already but yeah I probably would like it. Cincy just doesn’t appeal to me and the food choices in Cleveland and Columbus would probably be more like minded to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:50:50pm

re: #255 JordanRules

Just looking at it now… something seems off with that account.
Using the word candidate the way he did. Acting like the poll is important for something he won’t say what. And inviting folks to discuss (argue) about it.

His Joined date is June of 2018 (last month) and he’s already racked up 1,231 tweets, 7,643 following, 7,411 followers.
Yeah, smell test alarm is sounding.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:19:14pm

re: #271 HappyWarrior

It might nave been yeah. Kaine got vetted for that job too but he thought he was too inexperienced with federal politics at that time. I like Kaine but he’s not presidential timber. “Too nice.” He’s often compared to Biden in some ways but I think Joe is more a street fighter type and Senator Kaine more easy going. They’re both great guys mind you and I love havign Kaine as my Senator but I don’t know if he’d be our best pick for President.

I love Joe Biden, but I’ve said it before, I don’t think he’d be a good candidate at all—when he’s run for president (twice) he’s crashed and burned quickly.

1988—his whole actual campaign lasted 3-1/2 months before Biden withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987, saying his candidacy had been overrun by “the exaggerated shadow” of his past mistakes.

2008—He came in 5th in the Iowa caucus with 1% of the votes and dropped out.

Undeservedly, he’s gotten the rep as a “gaffe machine” and not that bright. (I emphasize undeservedly, because I don’t agree with either) That would be hard to overcome once the rubber hits the road. They’ll dig up the plagiarism crap and any off the cuff thing he’s ever said. Plus, he’ll be 78 years old in 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:23:10pm

re: #277 BeachDem

I love Joe Biden, but I’ve said it before, I don’t think he’d be a good candidate at all—when he’s run for president (twice) he’s crashed and burned quickly.

1988—his whole actual campaign lasted 3-1/2 months before Biden withdrew from the nomination race on September 23, 1987, saying his candidacy had been overrun by “the exaggerated shadow” of his past mistakes.

2008—He came in 5th in the Iowa caucus with 1% of the votes and dropped out.

Undeservedly, he’s gotten the rep as a “gaffe machine” and not that bright. (I emphasize undeservedly, because I don’t agree with either) That would be hard to overcome once the rubber hits the road. They’ll dig up the plagiarism crap and any off the cuff thing he’s ever said. Plus, he’ll be 78 years old in 2020.

I agree with that. That’s why I prefer someone younger. I’m not sure who yet. I’m liking Cory though. Kamala is another. And man if he weren’t running against Cruz, Beto, man I love that guy. Beto reminds me of one of my personal heroes, RFK who funnily enough I think Beto even resembles a little and shares the same Robert Francis monicker. But what I love about Beto is how keenly he pays attention to the issues effecting people.


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