The Bob Cesca Show: Massive Head Wound Harry

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Massive Head Wound Harry — NSFW; David ‘TRex’ Ferguson from the TRex Report podcast is here; Trump knew in January 2017 that Putin ordered the attack; Tucker Carlson freaked out by ‘intelligence community’; The dumbest tweet of the week; Poor Vladimir Putin; Republicans eliminate funding for election security; Voter ID; Republicans block motion to subpoena Trump’s interpreter from Helsinki; Trumpers defend their leader’s horrendous treason; and so much more.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:22:03pm

Right at the CL threshold and carrying on from about 20 up the last thread:

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:23:08pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:27:55pm
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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:28:00pm

re: #1 Chrysicat

Right at the CL threshold and carrying on from about 20 up the last thread:

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It’s good to see Skippy out there, still hammering away. He was a blog buddy of mine back in the olden days.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:29:31pm

Office Trumper has a new insane conspiracy theory: Obama is pulling Putins strings from behind the curtain and orchestrating this whole Russian mess just because he hates Trump and wants to make him look stupid.

Sigh…

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:30:38pm

Damn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:31:09pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Office Trumper has a new insane conspiracy theory: Obama is pulling Putins strings from behind the curtain and orchestrating this whole Russian mess just because he hates Trump and wants to make him look stupid.

Sigh…

Did Obama force Trump to kiss Putin’s ass repeatedly? Trumpers need to fucking get in the real world. TRUMP CARES MORE ABOUT HELPING PUTIN THAN HE DOES OUR ALLIES. And you fell for it.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:32:43pm

This brought back a lot of memories for me, no wonder why I will always be fond of Japanese cars haha:

Papadakis remembered that powerful sense of connection in the street racing scene in the early 1990s, even though there were racial differences between them. These were community-based car clubs, so people tended to be of similar ethnic backgrounds because that’s just who you lived close to. But these different clubs came into contact with one another once there was a common meet-up point.

Hispanic crews would come out of East LA and Asian communities came out of Irvine or San Gabriel Valley.

“In Los Angeles in that era, there were a lot of Asian gangs,” he said. “And [there] were Japanese cars, usually with Asian owners. I was one of the rare white guys at these street races.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:32:48pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Office Trumper has a new insane conspiracy theory: Obama is pulling Putins strings from behind the curtain and orchestrating this whole Russian mess just because he hates Trump and wants to make him look stupid.

Sigh…

My sister was complaining that “if a store is going to put out shirts that are offensive to my political views, I’m just not going to shop there.” I’m trying to resist the temptation to post the picture of the lovely couple with the “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS” t-shirts from the campaign and ask her what she thinks of that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:34:09pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Office Trumper has a new insane conspiracy theory: Obama is pulling Putins strings from behind the curtain and orchestrating this whole Russian mess just because he hates Trump and wants to make him look stupid.

Sigh…

Wait, so no-longer-in-power Obama is manipulating Putin, whom Trump has been sweet on for YEARS, to manipulate Trump to make Trump look bad?

This is like taking Occam’s Razor and trying to shave with the dull side. Or maybe taking Occam’s Razor and slashing your wrists.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:34:28pm

Orders Kobach to take Legal Classes.

I am dying.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:34:41pm

re: #11 MsJ

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Orders Kobach to take Legal Classes.

I am dying.

HAHAHAHAHA

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:36:16pm

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:37:20pm

re: #9 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My sister was complaining that “if a store is going to put out shirts that are offensive to my political views, I’m just not going to shop there.” I’m trying to resist the temptation to post the picture of the lovely couple with the “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS” t-shirts from the campaign and ask her what she thinks of that.

I sort of became friends with a distant cousin who took issue with my defense of Samantha Bee calling Ivanka the c-word. I actually condemned the word’s use but I said that people should be more angry at Ivanka’s silence on the issue that made Sam call her that. She didnt’ want to hear it unfortunately. It’s too because she’s a nice lady but she really thinks that everyone’s too hard on Ivanka and Melania and Donald too. I didn’t know her in the Obama years so I don’t know if she’s being inconsistent or not. Her older sister told me not to sweat it because her sister gets wound up by the right wing propaganda. I was surprised to see that she liked my photo of a transinclusioanry bathroom though that I just had to snap at a local restaurant to give my “right on” to.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:37:24pm

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:37:54pm

re: #11 MsJ

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Orders Kobach to take Legal Classes.

I am dying.

Wait didn’t this happen already or is this another judge ordering Romney’s finest legacy back?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:38:23pm

re: #13 GlutenFreeJesus

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:39:07pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Wait didn’t this happen already or is this another judge ordering Romney’s finest legacy back?

The article is from yesterday.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:39:53pm

re: #18 MsJ

The article is from yesterday.

And it says that the ruling was from June 18.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:40:00pm

re: #18 MsJ

The article is from yesterday.

Thanks. Just wondered because sometimes people do post old articles as new. Wasn’t trying to sound accusatory.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:41:29pm

re: #19 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And it says that the ruling was from June 18.

Thanks guys. God what an unethical shitbird Kobach is. And you know what, we still might still him as an AG or a GOP governor some day because too many people in these blood red states will vote for any Republican asshole.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:44:20pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Thanks guys. God what an unethical shitbird Kobach is. And you know what, we still might still him as an AG or a GOP governor some day because too many people in these blood red states will vote for any Republican asshole.

See my previous comment about my sister, who was probably offended by some anti-Trump stuff that they put up due to the recent outcry against, oh, I don’t know, FUCKING TREASON IN THE WHITE HOUSE. I love my family, but God, they are dumb as bricks sometimes.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:46:14pm

I’ll prolly be quiet for a while: someone on my own side is challenging me to find the original pic with the guy wearing the “I don’t watch Fox News” sign, and I think he’ll call me out for ‘falsely accusing’ our little Trumpkin Photoshopfailer from yesterday if I can’t…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:46:33pm

re: #22 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

See my previous comment about my sister, who was probably offended by some anti-Trump stuff that they put up due to the recent outcry against, oh, I don’t know, FUCKING TREASON IN THE WHITE HOUSE. I love my family, but God, they are dumb as bricks sometimes.

Not just that but the hypocrisy about vulgar language. Uh hello, you supported Trump, the guy who called people kneeling during the national anthem, sons of bitches. The guy who called protesters at his rallies all sorts of shit. I don’t expect to agree with everyone but Trumpsters are some of the most absurd minded people I’ve ever seen and I’m so sorry that you have them in your family.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:48:21pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Not just that but the hypocrisy about vulgar language. Uh hello, you supported Trump, the guy who called people kneeling during the national anthem, sons of bitches. The guy who called protesters at his rallies all sorts of shit. I don’t expect to agree with everyone but Trumpsters are some of the most absurd minded people I’ve ever seen and I’m so sorry that you have them in your family.

Trumpfucks are the dumbest fucks on the face of this planet.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:48:26pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Not just that but the hypocrisy about vulgar language. Uh hello, you supported Trump, the guy who called people kneeling during the national anthem, sons of bitches. The guy who called protesters at his rallies all sorts of shit. I don’t expect to agree with everyone but Trumpsters are some of the most absurd minded people I’ve ever seen and I’m so sorry that you have them in your family.

If you’re more upset by vulgar language than children being torn from their parents please go fuck yourself.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:48:30pm

re: #23 Chrysicat

I’ll prolly be quiet for a while: someone on my own side is challenging me to find the original pic with the guy wearing the “I don’t watch Fox News” sign, and I think he’ll call me out for ‘falsely accusing’ our little Trumpkin Photoshopfailer from yesterday if I can’t…

Sorry, our own side.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:49:42pm

re: #26 I Would Prefer Not To

If you’re more upset by vulgar language than children being torn from their parents please go fuck yourself.

Fucking A.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:50:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:50:28pm

re: #25 electrotek

Trumpfucks are the dumbest fucks on the face of this planet.

They really are. I’ve had to unfollow two of them on FB because I could not deal with teh stupid memes anymore. I don’t unfriend people as a rule on FB especially people who chose to friend me first but goddamn.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:50:59pm

re: #29 MsJ

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I hope Coats snaps Trump’s tiny cock hands off.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:52:16pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

They really are. I’ve had to unfollow two of them on FB because I could not deal with teh stupid memes anymore. I don’t unfriend people as a rule on FB especially people who chose to friend me first but goddamn.

I never unfriend people either, but I don’t give a fuck if Trump supporters unfriend. Fuck ‘em if they can’t handle the heat. They cause the most drama on my FB and I even have people telling me in person that so-and-so is a dickhead from my FB. Now that’s awkward.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:52:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:53:27pm

I just love how fickle the right is. We’re against PC blah blah. Says harsh and yes vulgar words about Trump being a fucking asshole who is a dupe. Hey don’t be vulgar! Fuck them. I don’t care that Trump was a vulgar candidate. I care that his vulgarity was his whole selling point. HE TELLS IT AS IS. *Calls Trump out for being wrong and stupid* But he actually meant this. Pick your narrative already FFS.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:54:50pm

re: #32 electrotek

I never unfriend people either, but I don’t give a fuck if Trump supporters unfriend. Fuck ‘em if they can’t handle the heat. They cause the most drama on my FB and I even have people telling me in person that so-and-so is a dickhead from my FB. Now that’s awkward.

TBH with you, I’m really trying to bait them. I want them to defend his shit to me. I don’t know if I’ve been defriended or not. I’ve gotten more applause than not though. A lot of the distant cousins I’ve met through my genealogy research are thankfully sane politically. The one who isn’t left FB.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:55:22pm

re: #33 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s the only President to be a pet himself. He’s Putin’s pet.

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can't think of a decent username  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:55:30pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Office Trumper has a new insane conspiracy theory: Obama is pulling Putins strings from behind the curtain and orchestrating this whole Russian mess just because he hates Trump and wants to make him look stupid.

Sigh…

Tell him you heard Obama owns Fox and Brietbart.

“WHAT! That can’t be true! Wikipedia says he doesn’t own them!”

Sure, that’s just what Obama wants you to believe.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:57:57pm

I’ve been wanting to spread a rumor for years that Alex Jones is an agent of the Deep State designed to undercut REAL critics of the deep state. But as much as I despise that asshole, I don’t want the violence brought on him that his bullshit has done on others so I’ve shied away from it but I wouldn’t be upset if Jones had to go on his show and repeatedly explain I’M NOT AN ASSET!. The funy thing to me is though Jones spent the entire Bush and Obama years paranoid as shit about the Executive Branch but now that the Executive Branch speaks his bigoted language, he loves it. Sort of proves that all his bullshit the proceeding fifteen years was simply because he was an asshole woh didn’t like was in charge not because of genuinely fear of oto much power i nthe executive.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:58:03pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

TBH with you, I’m really trying to bait them. I want them to defend his shit to me. I don’t know if I’ve been defriended or not. I’ve gotten more applause than not though. A lot of the distant cousins I’ve met through my genealogy research are thankfully sane politically. The one who isn’t left FB.

I use FB Purity to keep track of who deletes me lol

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:58:32pm

Speaking of social media, does anyone else agree that the prevalence have amplified anxiety disorders as well?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:58:37pm

Hannity though is the most pathetic of all. He’d cheer on a President Kasich or Bush with the same vigor he does Trump and dismiss their critics the same way. Lest we forget that Hannity loved kissing Bush’s ass from 01-09 too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:58:59pm

re: #39 electrotek

I use FB Purity to keep track of who deletes me lol

Oh I don’t care about that lol.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:58:59pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I’ve been wanting to spread a rumor for years that Alex Jones is an agent of the Deep State designed to undercut REAL critics of the deep state. But as much as I despise that asshole, I don’t want the violence brought on him that his bullshit has done on others so I’ve shied away from it but I wouldn’t be upset if Jones had to go on his show and repeatedly explain I’M NOT AN ASSET!. The funy thing to me is though Jones spent the entire Bush and Obama years paranoid as shit about the Executive Branch but now that the Executive Branch speaks his bigoted language, he loves it. Sort of proves that all his bullshit the proceeding fifteen years was simply because he was an asshole woh didn’t like was in charge not because of genuinely fear of oto much power i nthe executive.

Bingo.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 2:59:18pm

re: #40 electrotek

Speaking of social media, does anyone else agree that the prevalence have amplified anxiety disorders as well?

That’s an interesting theory. Never thought about it tbh.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:02:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:02:30pm

re: #43 electrotek

Bingo.

Yeah it’s pretty amusing seeing the Oathkeepers do the same thing. And to another extent the Paul father and son dumbass duo. Rand and Ron haven’t said shit about Trump’s attacks on immigrants. It’s almost like they don’t give a shit about liberty unless it’s for asshole bigoted whites like themselves.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:02:32pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

That’s an interesting theory. Never thought about it tbh.

I think it has one effect on some people, and the opposite effect on others. And the gamut in the between for others. Everybody is different, and uses social media differently.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:03:22pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s pretty amusing seeing the Oathkeepers do the same thing. And to another extent the Paul father and son dumbass duo. Rand and Ron haven’t said shit about Trump’s attacks on immigrants. It’s almost like they don’t give a shit about liberty unless it’s for asshole bigoted whites like themselves.

And I used to respect Ron Paul for his then-bravery of calling out US foreign policy failures back then. He’s a joke.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:04:15pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

That’s an interesting theory. Never thought about it tbh.

It makes sense. And it doesn’t have to originate from Facebook, as anyone can go back further and see the same kind of issues when MySpace was at its peak.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:05:05pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Oh I don’t care about that lol.

I do so I can call them out in person, makes it even more hilarious seeing them weasel out of it when confronted in person.

I just do it for the reactions from them.

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:06:37pm

re: #40 electrotek

Speaking of social media, does anyone else agree that the prevalence have amplified anxiety disorders as well?

I know I’m taking more prescribed evil psych drugz since November 2016 thanks to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:08:22pm

re: #48 electrotek

And I used to respect Ron Paul for his then-bravery of calling out US foreign policy failures back then. He’s a joke.

TBH I never liked him because while I thought our FP failures needed to be called out, his solutions sucked and his economic policies, holy shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:09:45pm

re: #50 electrotek

I do so I can call them out in person, makes it even more hilarious seeing them weasel out of it when confronted in person.

I just do it for the reactions from them.

Ah ok. I get the opposite lol. A lot of my family and friends like my rants. Probably because I use my own words and not some stupid meme. I memed for the first time yesterday but it was my own creation and I had to show the absurdity of Trump taking Putin at his word.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:10:21pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

TBH I never liked him because while I thought our FP failures needed to be called out, his solutions sucked and his economic policies, holy shit.

At the time I never factored those in until Obama won the primaries. My views and concerns became more multi-faceted after that and realize that foreign policy (while very important) isn’t the sole factor in making a great leader.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:12:08pm

re: #54 electrotek

At the time I never factored those in until Obama won the primaries. My views and concerns became more multi-faceted after that and realize that foreign policy (while very important) isn’t the sole factor in making a great leader.

Right and his FP really isn’t that good. I think some people were just happy to see someone call Bush’s mistakes and they certailny were that but there was and is another way between Paul’s Robert Taftian FP and Bush’s Neo-conservatism and now Trump’s Ask not what your country can do for you but what I can do for Russia’s interests.

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TedStriker  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:14:42pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

TBH I never liked him because while I thought our FP failures needed to be called out, his solutions sucked and his economic policies, holy shit.

Plus, he’s a racist (or, at least, Klan-curious)…remember that newsletter of his?

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:15:49pm

re: #23 Chrysicat

I’ll prolly be quiet for a while: someone on my own side is challenging me to find the original pic with the guy wearing the “I don’t watch Fox News” sign, and I think he’ll call me out for ‘falsely accusing’ our little Trumpkin Photoshopfailer from yesterday if I can’t…

May be answered already, but if you are using Chrome, right click on the image and then in the menu choose “search Google for Image” and the originals come up in the search. I know…I did it yesterday.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:16:14pm

Subpoena confirmed.

apple.news

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:16:36pm

re: #56 TedStriker

Plus, he’s a racist (or, at least, Klan-curious)…remember that newsletter of his?

Yep, there was that too. And man his excuses about that. It made me want to smack the man. Ron Paul 2008 had a lot of the elements of Bernie and Trump’s campaign. In fact, I saw a lot of the same stuff I saw in 2008 that I did in 2016. The difference was in 2008 that Obama succeeded ultimately thankfully. We will see other candidates like them in the future. I am ashamed to admit that in 2003 that at the age of 16 I was a Dennis Kucinich supported.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:17:08pm

I have Ry Cooder’s Mambo Sinuendo on all-day replay. It helps.

Ry Cooder & Manuel Galban - La Luna En Tu Mirada, 2003.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:18:03pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Yep, there was that too. And man his excuses about that. It made me want to smack the man. Ron Paul 2008 had a lot of the elements of Bernie and Trump’s campaign. In fact, I saw a lot of the same stuff I saw in 2008 that I did in 2016. The difference was in 2008 that Obama succeeded ultimately thankfully. We will see other candidates like them in the future. I am ashamed to admit that in 2003 that at the age of 16 I was a Dennis Kucinich supported.

Even back then, I knew that RP didn’t have a chance in the GOP.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:20:09pm

Success!

I hadn’t RT’d the original, but I had, thankfully, fav’d it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:20:26pm

re: #61 electrotek

Even back then, I knew that RP didn’t have a chance in the GOP.

In a way though, his legacy has carried on. Trump has more in common with Ron Paul than he does with Bush. He’s just more militaristic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:20:36pm

re: #40 electrotek

Speaking of social media, does anyone else agree that the prevalence have amplified anxiety disorders as well?

they amplify everything through anonymity…they allow people to shout things that they would otherwise not dare to even whisper

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:21:32pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

In a way though, his legacy has carried on. Trump has more in common with Ron Paul than he does with Bush. He’s just more militaristic.

I never thought RP was an Islamophobe like Trump though.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:22:43pm

re: #66 electrotek

I never thought RP was an Islamophobe like Trump though.

he seemed to have no trouble with White supremacists, though

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:22:51pm

Charming.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:23:39pm

re: #66 electrotek

I never thought RP was an Islamophobe like Trump though.

I don’t think so either but definitely a bigot.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:24:16pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

I don’t think so either but definitely a bigot.

Agreed, I’m not absolving him on his bigotry in any way, just to be clear.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:24:54pm

re: #68 MsJ

Charming.

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That man is such a fucking asshole but I’m glad the VA GOP nominated him. Corey1861forevah is going to help flip my CD blue for the first time. Comstock is finally going to get punished by voters for being Virginia’s own Marco Rubio, a weasel who stands for nothing.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:25:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:25:29pm

re: #70 electrotek

Agreed, I’m not absolving him on his bigotry in any way, just to be clear.

Oh I know you’re not. I have been glad to see some of the Libertarians I know call him out more recently for the sham he is.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:26:12pm

The discussion of Wilford Brimley in the last string reminded me of another actor who often played characters older than himself, Walter Brennan. Like Brimley, he stuck around long enough to play old guys when he really was old.
I did not know, and was disappointed to learn, that Brennan was a wingnut extremist even by the standards of the time.

During the 1960s, he became convinced that the antiwar and civil rights movements were being aided by overseas Communists from the Soviet Union through their support of local communist sympathizers and agitators, and said as much in interviews. He told reporters that he believed the civil rights movement - in particular, the riots in places such as Watts and Newark and demonstrations in Birmingham - had been the result of otherwise content “Negroes” being stirred up by a small number of “troublemakers” with anti-American agendas. In 1972, he supported the presidential campaign of conservative California congressman John Schmitz over that of Richard Nixon, whom he believed to be too moderate. He was a member of the John Birch Society.

Ironic that the Birch society now supports Russian subversion, and may in fact be one its leading conduits.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:28:03pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Oh I know you’re not. I have been glad to see some of the Libertarians I know call him out more recently for the sham he is.

Libertarians are less likely to shun bigots. Even if they disagree with their bigotry, they still won’t shun them full-stop because they believe they shouldn’t have to bear that weight on their own shoulders.

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ObserverArt  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:28:27pm

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The discussion of Wilford Brimley in the last string reminded me of another actor who often played characters older than himself, Walter Brennan. Like Brimley, he stuck around long enough to play old guys when he really was old.
I did not know, and was disappointed to learn, that Brennan was a wingnut extremist even by the standards of the time.

Ironic that the Birch society now supports Russian subversion, and may in fact be one its leading conduits.

A real McCoy!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:28:47pm

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The discussion of Wilford Brimley in the last string reminded me of another actor who often played characters older than himself, Walter Brennan. Like Brimley, he stuck around long enough to play old guys when he really was old.
I did not know, and was disappointed to learn, that Brennan was a wingnut extremist even by the standards of the time.

Ironic that the Birch society now supports Russian subversion, and may in fact be one its leading conduits.

John Schmitz ended being a real catch. But yeah I’ve heard about Brennan being a RW nut. Too bad. Great character actor. I think a lot of people would be surprised to see the starkness in the divide in Hollywood in those days. I’ve sort of learned a little about it since it’s come up in that Nixon bio I got. Congressman Rankin used Antisemitism to attack many well known Jewish actors who used stage names. One of the most famous being Edward G. Robinson.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:28:58pm

re: #72 MsJ

That’s what they call it over at the Department of Redundancy Department.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:29:52pm

re: #78 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s what they call it over at the Department of Redundancy Department.

Table Mesa and the Rio Grande River

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:30:02pm

re: #75 electrotek

Libertarians are less likely to shun bigots. Even if they disagree with their bigotry, they still won’t shun them full-stop because they believe they shouldn’t have to bear that weight on their own shoulders.

It is interesting though to look at the discussions on their TLs. I mostly know the more saner ones. You know people who don’t think Ludwig von Mises was the greatest economist ever. I mean we still disagree more than we don’t obviously about economics but they’re not the kind of people who overlook bigotry thank goodness.

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geosherman  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:30:14pm

re: #37 can’t think of a decent username

I would have used that username if I would have thought of it?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:30:36pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Table Mesa and the Rio Grande River

Served with a nice basket of naan bread. Birthday coming up! Means Indian food for me!

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gocart mozart  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:30:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:30:58pm

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Table Mesa and the Rio Grande River

Little Lagunitas Lake

Los Altos Heights

The El Camino Real

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:32:31pm

re: #83 gocart mozart

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Uh no Jonah. Just fucking no. Oh and by the way, it’s your shitty rag that has helped advise him on his court picks. Stop trying to blame everytime a conservative screws up by going to liberals. San Francisco hippies wouldn’t have kissed Putin’s ass the way conservatives like Trump and many including eevn some I imagine who write for your pathetic joke of a magazine founded by a snobby Jim Crow and Joe McCarthy apologizing douche.

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BlueGrl21  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:32:32pm

I’m very close to a retired Episcopalian priest…I consider him a second father. He is an old school conservative, Reagan era or even prior. Before he retired he didn’t have much time to engage with the world online. Now he does. And he cannot stand Donald Trump.

He started posting about it. Many of his former parishioners started going for his throat. He tried to engage with them and have a dialog. They just kept attacking him, over and over. This man was their priest for over 30 years. They don’t care. He’s a “lib” to them now. Which is HILARIOUS to me, he and I have been arguing politics since I met him.

I’ve painfully watched him trying to talk to them as a man of God for the past 6 months. He’s gotten nowhere.

He finally messaged me yesterday and said, “I have prayed on this, looked inward, mediated, and have come to the conclusion I have to block these assholes. They’re unhinged.”

When a priest blocks you on Facebook…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:32:54pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Little Lagunitas Lake

Los Altos Heights

The El Camino Real

Tuna Fish. As opposed to Tuna Sausage.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:32:59pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

It is interesting though to look at the discussions on their TLs. I mostly know the more saner ones. You know people who don’t think Ludwig von Mises was the greatest economist ever.I mean we still disagree more than we don’t obviously about economics but they’re not the kind of people who overlook bigotry thank goodness.

I hate von Mises to pieces!
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:34:57pm

re: #86 BlueGrl21

I’m very close to a retired Episcopalian priest…I consider him a second father. He is an old school conservative, Reagan era or even prior. Before he retired he didn’t have much time to engage with the world online. Now he does. And he cannot stand Donald Trump.

He started posting about it. Many of his former parishioners started going for his throat. He tried to engage with them and have a dialog. They just kept attacking him, over and over. This man was their priest for over 30 years. They don’t care. He’s a “lib” to them now. Which is HILARIOUS to me, he and I have been arguing politics since I met him.

I’ve painfully watched him trying to talk to them as a man of God for the past 6 months. He’s gotten nowhere.

He finally messaged me yesterday and said, “I have prayed on this, looked inward, mediated, and have come to the conclusion I have to block these assholes. They’re unhinged.”

When a priest blocks you on Facebook…

The funny thing is Trump has me appreciating men like the first Bush and Dole more. I’ll never like Reagan though. I hold him very much responsible for the GOP being the collection of shitbirds they are today. But that’s just crazy how it goes. Goldwater experienced finding out that he and Dole were the new liberals of the GOP as they both entered the twilight of their lives and political careers in Bob’s acse.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:36:22pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

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LMAO. I still don’t get how an Austrian economist from the 20th century has so many devotees who defend slavery. But my problem with the von Mises cult is that they’re all about their theories at the expense of reality. They are in effect a lot like Marxists in that way. I’m a Keynesian not just because I think JMK made the most sense but because I think Keynes understood economics is a living and breathing science.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:36:26pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Hey, wanted to tell you that I’ve found a potential ~2nd cousin via 23&Me.
It’s on the 100% Irish branch with a fairly not so common Irish surname. We have a fairly decent DNA match (he’s probably a closer match to my brother because they’re both in the same haploid group). Both of our family connections have huge Buffalo NY connections. This is the Fenian branch of my family (my ill eagle immigrant heritage, LOL!)
There’s a very good possibility that our great-grandfathers were brothers. This is a branch of the family that I really have only tiny clues about, due to my grams’ family stories told to me in childhood, and you know how THAT usually turns out.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:37:18pm

Well, I’m back from Real Life.

Mmmirele, you mentioned that you might not read Prairie Fires because you can’t stand Libertarians. There’s practically no politics in the book until the New Deal, and little after. Even then, Laura isn’t interested in politics, and Rose is more like crazy conspiracy lady (I mean undiagnosed mental illness, not nutcase). So I don’t think you’d have a problem with the book, except maybe the last chapter (and it Is really good.

Also: those weird Russian quotes that Translate was having so much trouble with are proverbs in the first set (something like “strike while the iron is hot”), and the second was about how the crop isn’t as good some places as it was last year, but it’s going to be okay. More or less, I just skimmed it.

I’m going canvassing tomorrow in the Central Valley (ugh, hot), and I have to leave at the crack of dawn, so I’m going to step away from LGF for a while. Probably an even shorter interval than Maggie from Twitter.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:37:52pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Tuna Fish. As opposed to Tuna Sausage.

“Chicken of the Sea” tuna used to have a jingle,

Ask any mermaid you happen to see,
‘What’s the best tuna?’ Chicken of the Sea!

So Hawaii Bro one time sang,

What’s the best chicken? Tuna of the Coop!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:38:01pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, wanted to tell you that I’ve found a potential ~2nd cousin via 23&Me.
It’s on the 100% Irish branch with a fairly not so common Irish surname. We have a fairly decent DNA match (he’s probably a closer match to my brother because they’re both in the same haploid group). Both of our family connections have huge Buffalo NY connections. This is the Fenian branch of my family (my ill eagle immigrant heritage, LOL!)
There’s a very good possibility that our great-grandfathers were brothers. This is a branch of the family that I really have only tiny clues about, due to my grams’ family stories told to me in childhood, and you know how THAT usually turns out.

That is awesome! I made touch with a man whose great great grandfather and my Dad’s great great grandmother were siblings. He verified to me where in County Mayo, we come from! I’m a stones throw away from Quiet Man country and I probably have FAther O’Malley of Boycott fame as a cousin.

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Chrysicat  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:39:14pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

The funny thing is Trump has me appreciating men like the first Bush and Dole more. I’ll never like Reagan though. I hold him very much responsible for the GOP being the collection of shitbirds they are today. But that’s just crazy how it goes. Goldwater experienced finding out that he and Dole were the new liberals of the GOP as they both entered the twilight of their lives and political careers in Bob’s acse.

At least Goldwater didn’t have to live through the absolute worst of it. If Dole still knows who his family is, he also ‘gets’ to see that the preachers Nixon and Reagan invited into the party did exactly what he and Barry warned about, and for exactly the reasons warned about.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:39:23pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

LMAO. I still don’t get how an Austrian economist from the 20th century has so many devotees who defend slavery. But my problem with the von Mises cult is that they’re all about their theories at the expense of reality. They are in effect a lot like Marxists in that way. I’m a Keynesian not just because I think JMK made the most sense but because I think Keynes understood economics is a living and breathing science.

Look, if we were all hatched out as fully formed adults who could then have an education chip implanted and be sent out to realize our potential as individuals, the a full Ayn Randian world of Free Market competitiveness would be just the thing.

But we are born helpless and dependent, most of us die helpless and dependent and some of us live our lives that way, and all of us are dependent on each other to some degree or another whether we admit it or not.

And that is where their economic ideology falls apart.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:39:37pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

LMAO. I still don’t get how an Austrian economist from the 20th century has so many devotees who defend slavery. But my problem with the von Mises cult is that they’re all about their theories at the expense of reality. They are in effect a lot like Marxists in that way. I’m a Keynesian not just because I think JMK made the most sense but because I think Keynes understood economics is a living and breathing science.

Also, an actual SCIENCE involving empirical observation, testable hypotheses, etc. as opposed to a bunch of shit you want to believe.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:40:19pm

re: #92 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

[…]

I’m going canvassing tomorrow in the Central Valley (ugh, hot), and I have to leave at the crack of dawn, so I’m going to step away from LGF for a while. Probably an even shorter interval than Maggie from Twitter.

Take water! Drink often!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:41:47pm

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Look, if we were all hatched out as fully formed adults who could then have an education chip implanted and be sent out to realize our potential as individuals, the a full Ayn Randian world of Free Market competitiveness would be just the thing.

But we are born helpless and dependent, most of us die helpless and dependent and some of us live our lives that way, and all of us are dependent on each other to some degree or another whether we admit it or not.

And that is where their economic ideology falls apart.

My take on it is that LIbertarianism, like Marxism, fails as soon as the first person figures how to cheat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:43:34pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

My take on it is that LIbertarianism, like Marxism, fails as soon as the first person figures how to cheat.

it does not even take that. I have seen enough examples of people who forget the rules but do not forget their sense of self-interest

effect is the same

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:44:46pm

I thought Manafort was scum long before I read this.

Now? He deserves to die in prison.

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JordanRules  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:44:56pm
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BlueGrl21  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:46:29pm

re: #95 Chrysicat

At least Goldwater didn’t have to live through the absolute worst of it. If Dole still knows who his family is, he also ‘gets’ to see that the preachers Nixon and Reagan invited into the party did exactly what he and Barry warned about, and for exactly the reasons warned about.

The thing that finally made my priest decide it was time to block vs. minister was the hypocrisy over Putin. That put away any belief in redemption of the Republican Party to bed.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:46:32pm

Oh by the way, before I forget:

Didn’t have a chance to respond in the last post due to being slammed with work and a new post was made anyways.

So she responded, she wasn’t avoiding me intentionally. She was just feeling like crap all week and I’m sure her social media activity was just a way to distract from the shit she’s going through.

Anyways, I didn’t press her on anything else. Just told her that I’m here for her when she needs someone, and that I’m only a call or text away. And left it at that, as MsJ and others have strongly emphasized. Everyone deals with matter like this in their own way, as not everyone shuts themselves off from everybody or something. It’s weird, but that’s human nature so we’re unpredictable of course.

She was always there for me when I needed someone, and always allowed me to talk about things so personal that I couldn’t fathom discussing on here (and I am personal to a lot of you guys as opposed to my FB). I just wanted to return the favor and act on my gratitude, but at times it can become counterproductive if you become obsessive over it. Which I’ll admit, I do obsess over the need to prevent myself from being an ingrate. Happy mediums, I suppose.

Which is why I’m grateful for the brutal and blunt honesty that all of you provide. I don’t like sugar-coating and anyone who gives me “tough love” is someone I would always respect because they’re always keeping it real and not keeping me in a little bubble of make-believe.

I still feel really fucking stupid for being so fucking irrational this entire fucking time though. I’m going to be beating myself up a lot over this, even though I didn’t do any knee-jerk reactions (thank God).

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:47:08pm

re: #101 makeitstop

Speaking of a Cuck…… Jebus!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:47:16pm

re: #101 makeitstop

I thought Manafort was scum long before I read this.

Now? He deserves to die in prison.

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Sounds like Roger Stone. He gets off on that sort of thing too.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:48:35pm

Looks like there is a Stone/Russian Hooker Trump tower connection. Still forming.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:50:14pm

re: #104 electrotek

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I’m going to be beating myself up a lot over this, even though I didn’t do any knee-jerk reactions (thank God).

Self-compassion is sometimes the most difficult compassion.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:52:23pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Self-compassion is sometimes the most difficult compassion.

Hard to show self-compassion when I was being irrational. I can’t defend my behavior at all here, so can’t defend the indefensible.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:54:25pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Office Trumper has a new insane conspiracy theory: Obama is pulling Putins strings from behind the curtain and orchestrating this whole Russian mess just because he hates Trump and wants to make him look stupid.

Sigh…

*Insert rapidly shaking head before exploding gif*

Sounds like this guy is one good nudge from either going sane or going insane.

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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:54:47pm

re: #109 electrotek

Hard to show self-compassion when I was being irrational. I can’t defend my behavior at all here, so can’t defend the indefensible.

Now don’t go proving my point like that. Just because you rethink your reasons doesn’t mean you were irrational before. Congratulate yourself on the rethinking.

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b.d.  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:54:51pm

re: #101 makeitstop

I thought Manafort was scum long before I read this.

Now? He deserves to die in prison.

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So the guy in charge of getting Trump elected was a real life, honest to goodness cuck?

LOL

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mmmirele  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:55:18pm

re: #68 MsJ

Charming.

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This is actually more interesting than that.

The collective news website Unicorn Riot last month got logs from a month-long group chat of people attempting to set up Unite the Right 2 (unicornriot.ninja). One of those people who participated is alleged to be Brian Landrum, an aide to Corey Stewart, who is running for Senate from Virginia.

More here at the Daily Beast: thedailybeast.com

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TedStriker  Jul 20, 2018 • 3:59:06pm

re: #99 Blind Frog Belly White

My take on it is that LIbertarianism, like Marxism, fails as soon as the first person figures how to cheat.

IOW, to make themselves “more equal”.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:00:37pm
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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:01:16pm

re: #104 electrotek

Dude, I cannot count how many times I’ve been where you are. My brutal honesty came from my own feelings as I was dealing internally with stuff and what happened when I was on your side of the table.

I’m 59 and have 40+ years of experience dealing with interpersonal shit. You’re not alone and you’re going to be fine.

We got your back.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:02:42pm

So lately some folks here have been saying “If you get a chance to see Joe Bonamassa you must do it!”
I didn’t know he is going to be at the Greek 8/1, but now two cheap seats here we come!
I suppose it is a safe bet that he will be playing blues of some sort.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:02:50pm

I feel like I missed something.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:02:51pm

re: #111 wrenchwench

Now don’t go proving my point like that. Just because you rethink your reasons doesn’t mean you were irrational before. Congratulate yourself on the rethinking.

I’m just being honest man. I tend to be harsh and abrasive on myself more than anything. I guess that’s where the self-criticism is derived from.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:03:15pm

I don’t know about any of you but we both love Discovery.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:04:24pm

re: #116 MsJ

Dude, I cannot count how many times I’ve been where you are. My brutal honesty came from my own feelings as I was dealing internally with stuff and what happened when I was on your side of the table.

I’m 59 and have 40+ years of experience dealing with interpersonal shit. You’re not alone and you’re going to be fine.

We got your back.

Cheers for the kind words.

It’s just one of those things that I was REALLY hoping I would grow the fuck out of, but being 33 I STILL can’t break the shackles of them at all.

It just sucks that I am also emotional too. But I don’t really show it in person, so I tend to hold it in often unless its interpersonal (i.e. texting, social media messaging, etc.). It blows.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:04:44pm

re: #115 makeitstop

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Imagine what Avenatti would learn about Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:04:45pm

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Look, if we were all hatched out as fully formed adults who could then have an education chip implanted and be sent out to realize our potential as individuals, the a full Ayn Randian world of Free Market competitiveness would be just the thing.

But we are born helpless and dependent, most of us die helpless and dependent and some of us live our lives that way, and all of us are dependent on each other to some degree or another whether we admit it or not.

And that is where their economic ideology falls apart.

That’s my point. We live in a real world. Theory only is so much.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:04:50pm

Now listening to:

🌍 Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Full soundtrack Deluxe Edition

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:07:37pm

re: #117 Jebediah, RBG

So lately some folks here have been saying “If you get a chance to see Joe Bonamassa you must do it!”
I didn’t know he is going to be at the Greek 8/1, but now two cheap seats here we come!
I suppose it is a safe bet that he will be playing blues of some sort.

I’ve never seen him live, but nines09 (wherever the hell he went) has, and says it’s worth every penny of what you’ll pay.

And our esteemed host, who is no guitar slouch himself, loves JB.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:09:12pm

re: #116 MsJ

Also, she is also very important for another reason: she is viciously anti-Trump as I am. We need to stick together in this climate by any means necessary, so I do not wish to alienate allies here.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:10:38pm

re: #121 electrotek

Cheers for the kind words.

It’s just one of those things that I was REALLY hoping I would grow the fuck out of, but being 33 I STILL can’t break the shackles of them at all.

It just sucks that I am also emotional too. But I don’t really show it in person, so I tend to hold it in often unless its interpersonal (i.e. texting, social media messaging, etc.). It blows.

Yo, I’ll be 65 in a month, and I’m still ruled largely by emotions. I’ve got a good therapist who helps me with that.

We’re humans. It’s what we do. Don’t beat yourself up over it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:11:12pm

I’ve decided to unfollow anyone on FB who posts nothing but memes. Not defriend but if you can’t actually argue your point in your words, you ain’t worth listening to.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:12:15pm

This pretty well sums it up for me. I am not a Maggie fan.

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:12:20pm

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

How about making a stipend for them from the massive profits the state is accruing from legal marijuana sales? Not too difficult, is it?

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:12:26pm

re: #122 Belafon

Imagine what Avenatti would learn about Trump.

Avenatti wants a piece of Trump real bad.

Can’t say as I blame him.

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electrotek  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:12:29pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I’ve decided to unfollow anyone on FB who posts nothing but memes. Not defriend but if you can’t actually argue your point in your words, you ain’t worth listening to.

I’ve sadly realized that I generate more social media activity if I post memes or screen caps of tweets. I used to post decent rants but felt I wasn’t receiving enough social media activity, so had to adapt. C’est la vie :(

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plansbandc  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:13:24pm

re: #6 MsJ

Just awful.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:14:32pm
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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:14:33pm

re: #131 makeitstop

Avenatti wants a piece of Trump real bad.

Can’t say as I blame him.

I think it might be some kind of conflict of interest (how do you use what you obtain in one case on another?) but, fuck it, I hope it works out for him.

I’m not too keen on Cohen getting any kind of pass though.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:14:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:19:20pm

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

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That’s going to be hard to overcome

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:19:20pm

Two observations.

1) Heh.

2) These things never, EVER get SMALLER, do they? Over 100? Shee-it!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:20:17pm
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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:21:10pm

re: #123 HappyWarrior

It’s worse than that though. Theories attempt to explain. Libertarianism is just an excuse to be an ass. There is no part of the real world it tries to model.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:22:38pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:22:47pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

There’s no better way to kick off the weekend than watching bears trying to get in a hammock.

Especially when it reminds you of your sister that one time…

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:23:44pm

re: #125 makeitstop

I’ve never seen him live, but nines09 (wherever the hell he went) has, and says it’s worth every penny of what you’ll pay.

And our esteemed host, who is no guitar slouch himself, loves JB.

Cool - tickets weren’t too bad, $59 each for seats close to where we sat for Bonnie Raitt/Keb Mo and those seats were just fine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:24:09pm

re: #129 MsJ

This pretty well sums it up for me. I am not a Maggie fan.

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Maybe it’s just me, but I have never seen any Trumpian cheerleading in Haberman’s writing. It may be dry and excessively pedantic about the definition of lying, but I never got the feeling she was pro-Trump.

To me, she’s one of 3 sources of information/observation on Trump that make him understandable. The other two are Josh Marshall and The Hoarse Whisperer.

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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:25:49pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe it’s just me, but I have never seen any Trumpian cheerleading in Haberman’s writing. It may be dry and excessively pedantic about the definition of lying, but I never got the feeling she was pro-Trump.

To me, she’s one of 3 sources of information/observation on Trump that make him understandable. The other two are Josh Marshall and The Hoarse Whisperer.

Her legacy status at the NYT and the fact that her mom used to work PR for Trump make it extremely difficult for me to trust her.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:29:04pm

Such lovely folks these Trumpists.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:33:33pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Such lovely folks these Trumpists.

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WTF. And no Trumpist, men don’t say “I came at here like a bitch” but shoot yourself sucking up for Donald, you’re going to look really stupid when Trump’s rotting in jail and remembered as a shithead who sold us to Russia.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:37:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:37:44pm

re: #148 Patricia Kayden

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You don’t get to make the rules of the NFL, you fat fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:38:18pm

Every last player should kneel. If the MAGA assholes want to suspend every player, deal with a less talented league. See how you feel then.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:39:24pm

Well well well:

Russian operatives blasted 18,000 tweets ahead of a huge news day during the 2016 presidential campaign. Did they know what was coming?

On the eve of one of the newsiest days of the 2016 presidential election season, a group of Russian operatives fired off tweets at a furious pace, about a dozen each minute. By the time they finished, more than 18,000 had been sent through cyberspace toward unwitting American voters, making it the busiest day by far in a disinformation operation whose aftermath is still roiling U.S. politics.

And then there’s this:

Linvill and Warren, who have written a paper on their research now undergoing peer review, identified 230 accounts they categorized as “Left Trolls” because they sought to infiltrate left-wing conversation on Twitter.

But the Left Trolls did so in a way clearly designed to damage Clinton, who is portrayed as corrupt, in poor health, dishonest and insensitive to the needs of working-class voters and various minority groups. By contrast, the Left Trolls celebrated Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and his insurgent primary campaign against Clinton and, in the general election, Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

Less than two weeks before election day, for example, the Left Troll account @Blacktivists tweeted, “NO LIVES MATTER TO HILLARY CLINTON. ONLY VOTES MATTER TO HILLARY CLINTON.”

Ninety-three of the Left Troll accounts were active on Oct. 6 and 7, each with an average following of 1,760 other Twitter accounts.

(bolding mine)

washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:41:12pm

re: #151 BeachDem

Well well well:

Russian operatives blasted 18,000 tweets ahead of a huge news day during the 2016 presidential campaign. Did they know what was coming?

On the eve of one of the newsiest days of the 2016 presidential election season, a group of Russian operatives fired off tweets at a furious pace, about a dozen each minute. By the time they finished, more than 18,000 had been sent through cyberspace toward unwitting American voters, making it the busiest day by far in a disinformation operation whose aftermath is still roiling U.S. politics.

And then there’s this:

Linvill and Warren, who have written a paper on their research now undergoing peer review, identified 230 accounts they categorized as “Left Trolls” because they sought to infiltrate left-wing conversation on Twitter.

But the Left Trolls did so in a way clearly designed to damage Clinton, who is portrayed as corrupt, in poor health, dishonest and insensitive to the needs of working-class voters and various minority groups. By contrast, the Left Trolls celebrated Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and his insurgent primary campaign against Clinton and, in the general election, Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

Less than two weeks before election day, for example, the Left Troll account @Blacktivists tweeted, “NO LIVES MATTER TO HILLARY CLINTON. ONLY VOTES MATTER TO HILLARY CLINTON.”

Ninety-three of the Left Troll accounts were active on Oct. 6 and 7, each with an average following of 1,760 other Twitter accounts.

(bolding mine)

washingtonpost.com

I’m not shocked at all. Putin loves to play everyone against each other.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:43:09pm

re: #115 makeitstop

More and more Avenatti is looking like a media whore than a real lawyer.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:44:59pm

re: #151 BeachDem

Twitter is trying to clamp down on troll accounts. I hope people on the Left will be a lot more skeptical when they see tweets criticizing Democrats. Last night, I had to respond to a troll on Tumblr who was encouraging Democrats to #walkaway. We need to be vigilant about addressing such foolishness whenever we can.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:46:52pm

re: #153 Skip Intro

More and more Avenatti is looking like a media whore than a real lawyer.

In fact doing so would be a conflict of interest.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:50:12pm

re: #130 plansbandc

How about making a stipend for them from the massive profits the state is accruing from legal marijuana sales? Not too difficult, is it?

Sure but the larger point is it’s irrelevant to the question in front of them and I don’t think most of the judges (at least the white ones) really want to start opening the door to discussions of reparations in general. Which is why I feel like they’re only raising the issue of cost as a way to pump the brakes.

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sagehen  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:54:54pm

re: #40 electrotek

Speaking of social media, does anyone else agree that the prevalence have amplified anxiety disorders as well?

I heard a theory a few years ago that social media was making people think everyone else’s lives were better than theirs (because everyone only posts the fun stuff to make it look better than it is)…

Personally, I think it’s just that anxiety disorders have increased dramatically since we’ve had a president we need to be anxious about.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:56:50pm

re: #153 Skip Intro

More and more Avenatti is looking like a media whore than a real lawyer.

You say that like it’s a bad thing. He’s gotten under their skin specifically because he won’t shut up. They even tried to make him.

We need both Avanetti types and Mueller types because Trump loves being a bully in front of a camera.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:57:49pm

re: #158 Belafon

I say that because he can’t represent Cohen and Stormy at the same time and he knows that.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:58:34pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe it’s just me, but I have never seen any Trumpian cheerleading in Haberman’s writing. It may be dry and excessively pedantic about the definition of lying, but I never got the feeling she was pro-Trump.

To me, she’s one of 3 sources of information/observation on Trump that make him understandable. The other two are Josh Marshall and The Hoarse Whisperer.

She’s worse than a cheerleader, she’s an excuser.

A cheerleader is easily identifiable. When you write stuff to excuse almost every and all behaviors, it’s completely inexcusable.

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Belafon  Jul 20, 2018 • 4:59:00pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

I say that because he can’t represent Cohen and Stormy at the same time and he knows that.

He does, and he’s not going to damage Stormy’s case. But his target is Trump, not Cohen.

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BeachDem  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:01:19pm

re: #160 MsJ

She’s worse than a cheerleader, she’s an excuser.

A cheerleader is easily identifiable. When you write stuff to excuse almost every and all behaviors, it’s completely inexcusable.

And, as always, The Hoarse Whisperer nails it in one sentence:

The NYT bathrooms don’t need mirrors. They’re incapable of self-reflection.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:02:57pm

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:03:16pm

Looks like they got it under control. Highway is open again.

Now the valley is choked with smoke. Visibility is no more than two miles.

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gocart mozart  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:04:10pm
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sagehen  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:04:52pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Little Lagunitas Lake

Los Altos Heights

The El Camino Real

The La Brea tarpits.
The Los Angeles Angels.

ATM machine.
PIN number.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:09:32pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

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Looks like they got it under control. Highway is open again.

twitter.com

Now the valley is choked with smoke. Visibility is no more than two miles.

Be safe out there, friend. Don’t get caught.

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gocart mozart  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:09:50pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:10:25pm

re: #165 gocart mozart

Family values.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:11:40pm

re: #168 gocart mozart

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Adios you smug asshole.

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gocart mozart  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:12:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:13:56pm

re: #171 gocart mozart

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The religious right are so damned easy to con.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:15:53pm

re: #165 gocart mozart

God. That shit is devastating to read. That poor family, those kids.

Manafort deserves the death penalty for that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:16:44pm

If only someone had predicted this.

Oh, wait. Someone did. In fact, lots of people.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:17:24pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:20:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:20:57pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

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If only someone had predicted this.

Oh, wait. Someone did. In fact, lots of people.

Stop bitching about the EU you asshole and actually go after the asshole who interfered with our election. Oh right, you owe Vlad your presidency and he keeps your secrets secret.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:21:18pm

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

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Jordan is such a fuckwit.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:22:24pm
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b.d.  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:22:36pm

What a family

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:23:08pm

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

Sound bites instead of legislation. That is today’s GOP.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:25:29pm

re: #179 MsJ

I predict MAGA gun nuts will be using the balloons for target practice. Chances are good they will miss the blimp and hit someone on the ground miles away instead.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:26:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:26:48pm

re: #179 MsJ

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Since the Trump Baby Balloon worked so well in London, I say we should put them up all over, like barrage balloons during the Battle of Britain.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:27:59pm

In case you missed my edit above:

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:28:05pm

re: #180 b.d.

What a family

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Creepy.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:28:30pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:28:46pm

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

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I am blocked by Elastigirl Persists. I have no idea why.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:28:55pm

re: #180 b.d.

What a family

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Apparently there are a lot of women out there for whom a weak chin is not a dealbreaker.

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austin_blue  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:29:07pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

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Now the valley is choked with smoke. Visibility is no more than two miles.

Is your bugout bag ready to go?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:29:31pm

I know there are some people who have lived in Japan or appreciate the culture there. I lived there for several years, too. I returned recently and really enjoyed my stay. But this documentary reminded me that Japan is a stubbornly patriarchal society that ranks among the lowest in terms of real women’s rights (they have toothless laws that aren’t enforced). I recently watched a documentary about a young woman looking for a career in journalism who was raped by a famous journalist with connections to Abe, the PM of Japan. The thing is, while it is clear that Japan is behind other post-industrialized countries in how it treats sexual violence, it wasn’t long ago that America was the same place. Here is a link to the documentary. It runs about an hour, but is worth watching:

Japan’s Secret Shame

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:30:45pm

OK, I stand corrected.
There is a Heaven

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EPR-radar  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:31:25pm

re: #184 Blind Frog Belly White

Since the Trump Baby Balloon worked so well in London, I say we should put them up all over, like barrage balloons during the Battle of Britain.

If enough of these go up, Trump might even have to flee the country. Wouldn’t that be a shame?

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b.d.  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:32:28pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

In case you missed my edit above:

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Can’t think of anyone who Trump would hate more interviewing Cohen but, yeah, AL is getting played.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:32:32pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I stand corrected.
There is a Heaven

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WHO’SA GOOD DOG?!? WHO’SA GOOD DOG?!?

All of them, Katie.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:32:33pm

ICYMI the proper response to pussy grabbing.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:32:45pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Beautiful and a very pleasant break. :)

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:33:15pm

re: #190 austin_blue

Is your bugout bag ready to go?

Situation isn’t dire, far from it. Fire was put out, the air is starting to clear up. But yeah, got a safe with papers. My skis, bicycles, guitars are ready to be loaded up on a moment’s notice.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:33:29pm

re: #180 b.d.

What a family

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I remember that old jingle:

Brylcreem, a little dab’ll do ya
Brylcreem, you’ll look so debonair!
Brylcreem, the gals’ll all pursue ya!
They love to put their fingers in your hair!

Don Jr. is nothing but a pile of Brylcreem with a digestive system.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:33:31pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, I stand corrected.
There is a Heaven

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Seriously, I just want to go into that crowd of Goldens, sit down on the grass, and get loved to death.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:34:22pm

re: #200 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, I just want to go into that crowd of Goldens, sit down on the grass, and get looking for loved to death.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:35:21pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:35:25pm

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

I remember that old jingle:

Brylcreem, a little dab’ll do ya
Brylcreem, you’ll look so debonair!
Brylcreem, the gals’ll all pursue ya!
They love to put their fingers in your hair!

Don Jr. is nothing but a pile of Brylcreem with a digestive system.

In “Ringworld”, the vampire species are very beautiful, with beautiful flowing hair, but underneath they have only very small brains.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:35:27pm

re: #198 teleskiguy

The only thing that’s not really ready is the immediate needs go bag: toothbrush, change of clothes, phone charger, flashlight, etc. That stuff, admittedly, is not all in one place at present.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:37:13pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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Yep. I was very reluctant to call Snowden a hero and still won’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:37:34pm

re: #204 teleskiguy

The only thing that’s not really ready is the immediate needs go bag: toothbrush, change of clothes, phone charger, flashlight, etc. That stuff, admittedly, is not all in one place at present.

Also, remember the 5 passports, $100,000 in three different currencies, and a gun.

Oh, wait - that’s a spy’s go bag.
//

Seriously, though - be safe. Don’t Wait! Evacuate!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:37:56pm

re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White

Little Lagunitas Lake

Los Altos Heights

The El Camino Real

The Hoi Polloi.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:38:33pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Yep. I was very reluctant to call Snowden a hero and still won’t.

For me, the kicker was going first to China, and then to Russia.

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austin_blue  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:38:57pm

re: #198 teleskiguy

Situation isn’t dire, far from it. Fire was put out, the air is starting to clear up. But yeah, got a safe with papers. My skis, bicycles, guitars are ready to be loaded up on a moment’s notice.

There ya go. Be safe my man. Two degrees of separation from a fatality in the Sonoma fire last year (Some friends in Oakland knew this guy who didn’t make it out.).

Don’t want to make it 1 1/2 degrees by losing an LGF friend.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:39:19pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Tuna Fish. As opposed to Tuna Sausage.

Shrimp Scampi.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:39:32pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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Yep. That thing reeked.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:40:25pm

I now have an awesome automated build system using Facebook’s open source utility Watchman. Maybe the best software Facebook has produced, or at least the most non-malignant.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:41:20pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Creepy.

Damaged.

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b.d.  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:41:28pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

For me, the kicker was going first to China, and then to Russia.

The easiest way to get to Ecuador from China is to go through Russia.

Don’t you know anything!?!?!

//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:41:53pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

For me, the kicker was going first to China, and then to Russia.

Same

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:44:01pm

🚨🚨🚨HOT TAKE ALERT🚨🚨🚨 The snake is the genesis of fake news.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:44:03pm
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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:44:57pm

re: #179 MsJ

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ICYMI, that article on the domestic Trump Baby Blimp also revealed there is something of an enthusiasm gap going on: while the blimp guys raised way MORE money than they wanted,

Meantime, another apparent opponent of the Trump baby blimp had plans to pop the offending item.

Kathie Kitt Conklin of New Jersey started her own GoFundMe page, this one asking for donations, should she be arrested for deflating the balloon and need to be bailed out, reports the Asbury Park Press.

“I’m tired of people disrespecting our President! I plan on taking out this ridiculous balloon…” the page stated, before GoFundMe reportedly took it down for violating its terms of service.

She reportedly raised $285 toward her $1,000 goal, with donors getting refunds.

To me, $4,500 seems cheap for a TBB, but there we are: MAGA one mocking balloon at a time!

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:45:07pm

So far a pretty standard fire season for California. A couple big ones and the small ones are fast burning grasses and not getting hot enough to get the trees going.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:47:02pm
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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:47:13pm

re: #216 teleskiguy

🚨🚨🚨HOT TAKE ALERT🚨🚨🚨 The snake is the genesis of fake news.

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Hey! You knew it was a snake when you put it your parable…..

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:48:37pm

They’re not even hiding it.

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stpaulbear  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:48:42pm

re: #175 teleskiguy

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:49:44pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

In case you missed my edit above:

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What did I miss able Al Sharpton?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:49:49pm

re: #222 MsJ

They’re not even hiding it.

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Why try to hide it? They’ve won, now. If we keep the President, he and the ruling party are compromised. If we kick the President out, we’re a divided country and easier to take advantage of.

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:50:39pm

re: #11 MsJ

The judge should have informed the state bar association of intent to pursue disbarment for Kobach.

Remedial classes is as close to that step as a judge is going to get.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:50:46pm
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steve_davis  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:51:40pm

re: #1 Chrysicat

Right at the CL threshold and carrying on from about 20 up the last thread:

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just wikied it. Brimley has basically been in every good movie that was made in a 25 year period. Even The Thing turned out to be a cult classic.

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austin_blue  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:52:22pm

re: #219 Single-handed sailor

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So far a pretty standard fire season for California. A couple big ones and the small ones are fast burning grasses and not getting hot enough to get the trees going.

El Portal is the main entrance into Yosemite from the west, up the Merced River.

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teleskiguy  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:54:10pm

re: #223 stpaulbear

WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE MOON, BUT WE CAN’T BOMB A TINY ASIAN NATION INTO THE STONE AGE?

Editorial, Page 13A

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steve_davis  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:55:06pm

re: #10 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait, so no-longer-in-power Obama is manipulating Putin, whom Trump has been sweet on for YEARS, to manipulate Trump to make Trump look bad?

This is like taking Occam’s Razor and trying to shave with the dull side. Or maybe taking Occam’s Razor and slashing your wrists.

more like shaving occam’s balls with the gum scraper.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:56:05pm

Why does it seem like Ali Veshi is always shouting, even when he isn’t?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:57:32pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

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I learned about the $? command earlier this week when I was setting up a Jenkins deployment script to stop and restart a service process.

echo $? > server.pid

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:59:15pm
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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:59:24pm

Yo, Skip - looks like Hoarse agrees with you re Avenatti.

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Cheechako  Jul 20, 2018 • 5:59:34pm

So, I’m starting to think the cherry on top the of indictments that trump is going to receive might be for being an “Unregistered Agent of a Foreign Government”.

Think about what an Impeachment or Federal Court conviction would mean to America.

Is trump an illegal President?
Are the appointments, EO’s, international agreements, etc. valid.
Of course, following the Constitution, that would make Pence POTUS, and if he’s drug in then Ryan. Of course, Pence might get to appoint a new VP before he goes down the drain.

What a friggin’ mess…

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lawhawk  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:04:03pm

re: #236 Cheechako

So, I’m starting to think the cherry on top the of indictments that trump is going to receive might be for being an “Unregistered Agent of a Foreign Government”.

Think about what an Impeachment or Federal Court conviction would mean to America.

Is trump an illegal President?
Are the appointments, EO’s, international agreements, etc. valid.
Of course, following the Constitution, that would make Pence POTUS, and if he’s drug in then Ryan. Of course, Pence might get to appoint a new VP before he goes down the drain.

What a friggin’ mess…

Russia benefits either way.

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stpaulbear  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:06:06pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

Clickbait.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:06:23pm

re: #218 Jay C

ICYMI, that article on the domestic Trump Baby Blimp also revealed there is something of an enthusiasm gap going on: while the blimp guys raised way MORE money than they wanted,

To me, $4,500 seems cheap for a TBB, but there we are: MAGA one mocking balloon at a time!

Our GoFundMe economy.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:07:20pm

And I has a thread too.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:09:28pm

re: #226 lawhawk

The judge should have informed the state bar association of intent to pursue disbarment for Kobach.

Remedial classes is as close to that step as a judge is going to get.

Give kobach time. He is on quite the roll. Next time, buh bye license.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:11:11pm

I was looking around at the local emergency services’ twitter and saw this.

Click to Reveal
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b.d.  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:14:00pm

re: #235 makeitstop

Yo, Skip - looks like Hoarse agrees with you re Avenatti.

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Targetpractice  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:17:08pm

Cats: “You can’t have your computer room tonight! This chair’s too comfy!”

Me: “Alright, I’ll just grab my laptop and move to my room.”

Cats: “Sounds great, see you there!”

*sigh*

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:17:34pm

re: #243 b.d.

“Your honor, Michael avenatti for the plaintiff and the defendant.”
“Judge Avenatti, I object!”

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A Cranky One  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:17:39pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

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I was going to argue but every time I tried my shell died.

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b.d.  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:18:42pm

re: #245 jaunte

“Your honor, Michael avenatti for the plaintiff and the defendant.”
“Judge Avenatti, I object!”

But if Avenatti is in the courtroom then how can he talk on the tvs?!?

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:18:49pm

re: #245 jaunte

“Your honor, Michael avenatti for the plaintiff and the defendant.”
“Judge Avenatti, I object!”

I see a movie concept: “Me, myself and Avenatti”…

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A Cranky One  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:19:33pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

Why does it seem like Ali Veshi is always shouting, even when he isn’t?

He’s hyperactive from too much covfefe.

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Jay C  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:20:49pm

re: #245 jaunte

“Your honor, Michael avenatti for the plaintiff and the defendant.”
“Judge Avenatti, I object!”

“We’ll have to refer this to the mediator, Mr. Avenatti….”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:21:26pm
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makeitstop  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:22:19pm
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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:23:39pm

I spent almost the entire day of July 20, 1969 sitting on the wood floor of my parents den, watching the black & white tv report the moon landing.

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:24:07pm

re: #252 makeitstop

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Is the above what they refer to as a proper “burn”?

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A Cranky One  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:25:27pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

In “Ringworld”, the vampire species are very beautiful, with beautiful flowing hair, but underneath they have only very small brains.

Descended from Fox News on screen “talent”?

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:25:59pm

Still a bottom who forgot the safe word.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:27:13pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

With all that’s coming out about Russia hacking our election, sowing divisions, planting trolls and fake news on social media, etc. … maybe some people who were hyper-critical of me at the time can understand why I was highly suspicious of the whole Snowden-Greenwald affair.

And Greenwald’s behavior to date has done nothing to make me less suspicious.

I joined here because it was one of the very very few political blogs that did not blindly swallow everything GG said.

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stpaulbear  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:32:42pm

re: #245 jaunte

“Your honor, Michael avenatti for the plaintiff and the defendant.”
“Judge Avenatti, I object!”

Isn’t that kind of exactly what Avenatti was suing Stormy’s previous lawyer about?

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:37:41pm

re: #258 stpaulbear

I think he was suggesting he could represent the plaintiff against Cohen in a civil suit, and then represent Cohen in a separate criminal defense.

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Skip Intro  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:37:48pm

re: #243 b.d.

Smart man.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:44:57pm

Nope. They’re not even hiding it now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:45:54pm

Well, that is a surprising coincidence

//

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Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:46:23pm

re: #261 MsJ

Nope. They’re not even hiding it now.

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Daring Mueller, the DoJ and FBI to catch them?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:50:06pm

re: #263 Teukka

I am waiting to hear the “Gotcha” from Mueller.

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MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:50:38pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, that is a surprising coincidence

//

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Except she hasn’t been arrested. Yet.

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:55:19pm

The Midwest is toast.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:56:34pm

re: #266 jaunte

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The Midwest is toast.

You. I see what you did there.

*WHACK!*

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2018 • 6:56:39pm

re: #266 jaunte

Philly is going to get rained on this weekend.
weather.gov

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jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:01:52pm

This is insanity.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:02:14pm

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

Philly is going to get rained on this weekend.
weather.gov

I had an incredible day of full on downpour. I love it. The West to East coast transformation is amazing.

I did buy raid. Because palmetto bugs on my patio. But I’m not freaking out. No I’m not.

271
jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:03:54pm

re: #270 Stanley Sea

If you can get a lasso around their necks and accustom them to human commands, they can be tamed.

272
MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:04:46pm

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

Philly is going to get rained on this weekend.
weather.gov

If you get what passed through here earlier today, it’s gonna suck. I had three quivering dogs on my feet (usually it’s only one who makes his way into the bathtub) and in my lap for two hours while the freaking sky opened up and dropped buckets. Bo had to be sedated.

273
Teukka  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:06:37pm

Trump supporters 6 months ago:
“There were no meetings with any Russians.”

Trump supporters 3 months ago:
“They just forgot to report the meetings with Russians.”

Trump supporters last week:
“There’s no evidence of collusion with Russia!!”

Trump supporters 3 days ago:
“Who cares if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?”

Trump supporters yesterday:
“It’s Obama’s fault for not stopping the meetings with Russians.”

Trump’s lawyer Jay Sekulow today:
“It’s the Secret Service’s fault for not stopping the meeting with Russians.”

Trump supporters tomorrow:
“Трамп собирается сделать Россию великой снова!”

~ Russell Meyers

274
PhillyPretzel  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:06:45pm

re: #272 MsJ

The extended forecast is not a pretty one. It is supposed to rain most of the week.
forecast.weather.gov

275
Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:09:16pm

re: #271 jaunte

If you can get a lasso around their necks and accustom them to human commands, they can be tamed.

I sprayed a perimeter. Bet that will be bullshit, but I’ll do what I need to.

Hilarious moment, I thought a spider landed on me, ready to freak out, but it was just some other 8 legged orange insect. I was like OK. My goal is to re-adapt. I grew up in FL. Come on.

276
jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:11:22pm

re: #275 Stanley Sea

I try to build a lot of lizard and toad hideyholes in the back yard; they do a good job of controlling ours.

277
jaunte  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:12:26pm

But I need a lizard apartment behind the dishwasher.

278
Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:16:04pm

Something bizarre here at my apt complex
EVERYONE backs into their parking space
I always thought of that as the psychology of wanting to leave (discussed irt work) I’m pulling in foward like a rebel. Southern thing?

279
MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:16:10pm

re: #273 Teukka

Trump supporters 6 months ago:
“There were no meetings with any Russians.”

Trump supporters 3 months ago:
“They just forgot to report the meetings with Russians.”

Trump supporters last week:
“There’s no evidence of collusion with Russia!!”

Trump supporters 3 days ago:
“Who cares if the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?”

Trump supporters yesterday:
“It’s Obama’s fault for not stopping the meetings with Russians.”

Trump’s lawyer Jay Sekulow today:
“It’s the Secret Service’s fault for not stopping the meeting with Russians.”

Trump supporters tomorrow:
“Трамп собирается сделать Россию великой снова!”

~ Russell Meyers

I’m stealing that.

280
MsJ  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:17:43pm

re: #278 Stanley Sea

Something bizarre here at my apt complex
EVERYONE backs into their parking space
I always thought of that as the psychology of wanting to leave (discussed irt work) I’m pulling in foward like a rebel. Southern thing?

It’s less dangerous to pull out face forward. And is you ever need a jump, that’s easier too.

Some companies require it.

281
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:17:48pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

LMAO. I still don’t get how an Austrian economist from the 20th century has so many devotees who defend slavery. But my problem with the von Mises cult is that they’re all about their theories at the expense of reality. They are in effect a lot like Marxists in that way. I’m a Keynesian not just because I think JMK made the most sense but because I think Keynes understood economics is a living and breathing science.

And I had to sit thru that Austrian School bullshit in Pitt economics classes!

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Stanley Sea  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:20:42pm

re: #280 MsJ

It’s less dangerous to pull out face forward. And is you ever need a jump, that’s easier too.

Some companies require it.

PITA. Not necessary at the homestead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 20, 2018 • 7:24:30pm

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

Philly is going to get rained on this weekend.
weather.gov

My rain gauge just hit 3 inches (that’s since 8:30 this morning)


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