Now Trump Is Planning to Destroy California’s Anti-Pollution Policies

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A recent study by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration found that air pollution in Los Angeles has declined dramatically over the past few decades, thanks to California’s emission control policies.

So of course, the Trump gang is now planning to destroy those policies and bring back the bad old days, one of which you see pictured above. Yes, it really was that bad.

The Trump administration will seek to revoke California’s authority to regulate automobile greenhouse gas emissions — including its mandate for electric car sales — in a proposed revision of Obama-era standards, according to three people familiar with the plan.

The proposal, expected to be released this week, amounts to a frontal assault on one of former President Barack Obama’s signature regulatory programs to curb greenhouse gas emissions that contribute to climate change. It also sets up a high-stakes battle over California’s unique ability to combat air pollution and, if finalized, is sure to set off a protracted courtroom battle.

These monsters are taking a wrecking ball to everything decent about America. And it isn’t just Trump. We’re seeing what happens when the Republican Party achieves total control of the federal government to enact a fantasyland series of agendas driven by a twisted ideology instead of evidence.

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lawhawk  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:39:14am

Trump put corporate toadys in at Interior and EPA. They want to gut environmental protection. They want to savage federal lands and gut wildlife protection. Everywhere you turn, the GOP is gutting protections so that a handful of corporate entities can profit.

Meanwhile, hundreds of millions of Americans will suffer due to worsening air quality, water pollution, and spoiled lands/views and diminished wildlife due to species going extinct.

Everywhere you turn, Trump is a regressive know nothing who is seemingly taking a checklist of Obama accomplishments and looking to reverse/overturn/destroy everything he did. We saw it with Trump’s actions on Bears Ears (a total travesty where the GOP/Trump made up bullshit about how they’re protecting Native American lands by reducing the national monument by like 90%). We’re seeing it here.

The GOP loves to talk states’ rights, except when it isn’t the right state talking.

They love to talk states’ rights when you’re depriving others of rights. But when you want to expand protections (civil/voting/environmental), the GOP calls it overstepping bounds.

GOP delenda est.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:39:18am
The Trump administration will seek to revoke California’s authority to regulate automobile greenhouse gas emissions

Trump can’t stand to have such a large economy so close, and yet not have the ability to push it around with tariffs and sanctions.

Yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:42:16am

states rights

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:44:34am

re: #3 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

states rights

“Why won’t New York send back the escaped slaves?”

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:44:44am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:49:39am

Next article from The Federalist: “Are States’ Rights Absolute? Not Necessarily.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:50:08am
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:50:20am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:50:26am
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:50:52am

Derf Fuehrer hates critics.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:50:59am

Also from The Federalist: “Rejecting California’s Pollution Regulations is the Real States’ Rights Position.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:51:25am

JFK said nothing of the kind. Todd Klein came close to being mayor of Lubbock, losing to a candidate who was even more right wing. The place is about to disappear into a black hole of derp:

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gocart mozart  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:51:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:52:02am

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nope, no politicization going here.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:53:03am

re: #12 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

JFK said nothing of the kind. This man came close to being mayor of Lubbock, losing to a candidate who was even more right wing. The place is about to disappear into a black hole of derp:

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Very tough, so tough.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:55:01am
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:58:46am
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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:59:14am

re: #11 Sir John Barron

Also from The Federalist: “Rejecting California’s Pollution Regulations is the Real States’ Rights Position.”

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“What if those people in Nevada don’t want to breath clean air?”

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:00:42pm

re: #17 jaunte

White House weighing stripping former intelligence chiefs - e.g. Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Comey, Hayden - of security clearance….]

…will pass law to give Trump the ability to make it retroactive.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:02:25pm
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:03:57pm

McCabe’s spokesperson:

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Dave In Austin  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:04:38pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:05:08pm

re: #17 jaunte

White House weighing stripping former intelligence chiefs - e.g. Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Comey, Hayden - of security clearance. Sanders refuses to say whether president is acting because he resents their criticism

— West Wing Reports

A despicable, deplorable, bunch of lying hypocritical skunks.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:06:20pm

re: #23 Sir John Barron

A despicable, deplorable, bunch of lying hypocritical skunks.

Everyone in the WH I mean.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:06:30pm

re: #21 jaunte

McCabe’s spokesperson:

They can’t look at much anyway. They don’t have a need to know.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:06:39pm
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:08:16pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:11:01pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:12:05pm

re: #27 jaunte

General Hayden is all out of focks to give.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:13:07pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:15:31pm
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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:21:13pm

So, a set of consequences of Trump’s tariffs:
1. US meat is sitting at ports in freezers piling up.
2. Farmers aren’t getting paid, so the USDA may borrow from the Treasury - up to $30B - to pay them.
3. Some meat production companies may move out of the country.
4. Because demand is down, farmers will reduce livestock production. This means less need for soybeans and corn, which will put further downward pressure on the price of those.

In the short run, that meat may be sold in the US, which could drive prices of meat down below the cost of production, meaning farmers would be losing money anyway, though not as much.

Edited: meat not meet.

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gocart mozart  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:21:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:22:51pm
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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:23:45pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:23:48pm

re: #32 Belafon

So, a set of consequences of Trump’s tariffs:
1. US meet is sitting at ports in freezers piling up.
2. Farmers aren’t getting paid, so the USDA may borrow from the Treasury - up to $30B - to pay them.
3. Some meet production companies may move out of the country.
4. Because demand is down, farmers will reduce livestock production. This means less need for soybeans and corn, which will put further downward pressure on the price of those.

In the short run, that meet may be sold in the US, which could drive prices of meet down below the cost of production, meaning farmers would be losing money anyway, though not as much.

And in around mid-September, Trump will probably tweet, “If only Obama and Crooked Hillary hadn’t started this needless trade war with our closest trade partners. Sad!”

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:25:25pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

I knew it. Something was cooking and that’s why Trumpy was more unhinged than usual today.

He’s scared shitless and it’s obvious.

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lawhawk  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:26:09pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

And it’s not going to matter to the GOP faithful who take it as articles of faith whatever Trump says is true (even when he flip flops within 24 hours - or less).

They could catch him on tape discussing payments from Putin and where to stash the cash (and rubles), and the GOP will claim it’s all Deep State.

The GOP continue enabling Trump, including making appearances on Fox to spread their noxious lies.

It’s hard to trust any story claiming that the GOP are whispering behind Trump’s back that he’s doing damage to the GOP, when the GOP refuses to take any steps in public to stop Trump from doing the damage they’re supposedly worried about.

GOP delenda est.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:27:22pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

[There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday…]

‘The Special Master’s review of the remaining items is ongoing.’

That’s my favorite part.

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Weaselone  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:28:19pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

So does this mean Maggie Haberman was wrong? I thought she tweeted that their appeared to be only one tape.

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Weaselone  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:29:36pm

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

And in around mid-September, Trump will probably tweet, “If only Obama and Crooked Hillary hadn’t started this needless trade war with our closest trade partners. Sad!”

He’ll just take credit for cheap bacon.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:31:17pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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There are a pair of badgers who use my back porch as their personal love nest. No head markings. I guess they don’t want the papparazzi to recognize who they are.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:31:48pm

re: #41 Weaselone

He’ll just take credit for cheap bacon.

I ain’t cheap…

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:32:18pm

re: #41 Weaselone

He’ll just take credit for cheap bacon.

Yep. That MAGA-cap wearing white 30 year old living in his parent’s basement in Charlotte doesn’t care about farmers getting shafted. It’s too complicated for him.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:34:16pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:34:20pm

re: #35 darthstar

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They should reopen Alcatraz just for tRump and his family and everybody in this administration. Give them all cells with a view of the city that voted most lopsidedly against them. (Probably.)

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:35:15pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday - when the Times story ran on one of them.

But, but Maggie said only one (and she talked straight to Rudy and all, so…)

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:36:57pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:37:25pm
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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:37:36pm

re: #47 BeachDem

There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday - when the Times story ran on one of them.

But, but Maggie said only one (and she talked straight to Rudy and all, so…)

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I replied at the time to her - saying ‘Only one tape…isn’t that enough?’ - and now we know she was premature in taking Rudy’s word.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:37:42pm

re: #47 BeachDem

There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday - when the Times story ran on one of them.

But, but Maggie said only one (and she talked straight to Rudy and all, so…)

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OOPS! She meant that Hillary was trashed in only one tape….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:38:28pm

re: #50 darthstar

I replied at the time to her - saying ‘Only one tape…isn’t that enough?’ - and now we know she was premature in taking Rudy’s word.

Why the fuck would anyone take Rudy’s word for anything? The man’s dishonesty isn’t a secret.

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:39:15pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:39:24pm

Throwback Monday.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:40:50pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

Throwback Monday.

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Appears to be only one” is the weasel words.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:40:54pm

Killing future generations to own the Libs…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:41:22pm

The good news about their attempt to revoke California’s regulations is that it will take years of litigation and probably fail.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:42:02pm

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Killing future generations to own the Libs…

They want to end liberalism, so they’re going to have to kill everyone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:42:11pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Not this shit again. Can’t CCJ just crawl into a hole somewhere?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:42:55pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Not this shit again. Can’t CCJ just crawl into a hole somewhere?

Not as long as Russian agents and corrupt millionaires enable him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:44:20pm

IT’S THOSE GLOBALISTS AGAIN

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:45:34pm

re: #61 The Vicious Babushka

IT’S THOSE GLOBALISTS AGAIN

Trump absolute cares where his products are made. He’d make them here if we were more authoritarian and he could abuse his workers more.

Edit: Yes, I know what “globalists” means.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:46:59pm

Rand Paul says he is undecided on Kavanaugh due to his privacy concerns. Call him, Kentucky Lizards! I have; he may be our only shot. Kavanaugh will utter the words Collins and Murkowski want to hear about “respecting precedent” and they will vote to confirm.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:49:49pm
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Kragar  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:50:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:50:27pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:50:40pm
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lawhawk  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:50:51pm

Geidner name the names who have been granted immunity:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:51:58pm

re: #63 Big Beautiful Door

Rand Paul says he is undecided on Kavanaugh due to his privacy concerns. Call him, Kentucky Lizards! I have; he may be our only shot. Kavanaugh will utter the words Collins and Murkowski want to hear about “respecting precedent” and they will vote to confirm.

Oh yeah, sure, Ayn Rand Paul. We just know you’d vote against your new Dear Leader.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:52:13pm

About the Daily News/Tronc situation—John Oliver from 2016.

Original Tribune sale story starts at about 8:15; Tronc story at 9:50)

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Journalism (HBO)

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:52:29pm

SPACE CAPSICULES

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:52:37pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:53:59pm

re: #47 BeachDem

There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday - when the Times story ran on one of them.

But, but Maggie said only one (and she talked straight to Rudy and all, so…)

Maggie: Don’t make me quit Twitter, you raging antifa’s!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:54:46pm
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lawhawk  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:54:48pm

re: #68 lawhawk

Conor O’Brien is at Kositzka, Wicks and Company (Manafort’s accounting firm)
Cindy Laporta is a CPA for Kositzka, Wicks and Company (Manafort’s accounting firm)

Dennis Raico was previously affiliated with Federal Savings Bank (FSB), a small Chicago bank that provided Manafort with $16 million in loans shortly after Manafort left the Trump campaign.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:54:55pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

SPACE CAPSICULES

They’re even smaller than space capsules!

Having seen a Mercury capsule, though, I can’t imagine smaller. No wonder all the 1st generation of astronauts were all short.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:57:36pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Are those supposed to go with the SpaceForce?

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:57:51pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re even smaller than space capsules!

Having seen a Mercury capsule, though, I can’t imagine smaller. No wonder all the 1st generation of astronauts were all short.

I had a smaller one. Had a slot in the top big enough for pennies. Plastic. Made before ‘Country of Origin’ markings were required.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:58:14pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

I read that he was highlighting “Made In America” products - the F35, Moon Pies, and gun safes.

The F35 is a boondoggle.

Moon Pies are about as American as you can imagine, and not in a good way like Corvettes. More like Twinkies.

And gun safes, which no other country needs.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:58:20pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Conor O’Brien is at Kositzka, Wicks and Company (Manafort’s accounting firm)
Cindy Laporta is a CPA for Kositzka, Wicks and Company (Manafort’s accounting firm)

Dennis Raico was previously affiliated with Federal Savings Bank (FSB), a small Chicago bank that provided Manafort with $16 million in loans shortly after Manafort left the Trump campaign.

C’mon, why is Conan O’Brien getting immunity?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:58:47pm

Cillizza is upset that Trump won’t tell the particular obvious lie he wants to hear.

Because the President just can’t bring himself to say these sentences: Yes, Russia tried to interfere in our election. I didn’t collude with them and there was no impact on the outcome. Still, Russia has proven itself to be a bad actor on the national stage and I will treat them that way until their behavior changes.

cnn.com

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 12:59:23pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Conor O’Brien is at Kositzka, Wicks and Company (Manafort’s accounting firm)
Cindy Laporta is a CPA for Kositzka, Wicks and Company (Manafort’s accounting firm)

Dennis Raico was previously affiliated with Federal Savings Bank (FSB), a small Chicago bank that provided Manafort with $16 million in loans shortly after Manafort left the Trump campaign.

All I know is, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Trumpy) says the whole investigation and indictments are bogus because of DEBUNKED DOSSIER!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:00:36pm

re: #81 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Cillizza is upset that Trump won’t tell the particular obvious lie he wants to hear.

cnn.com

Our media elite can’t harbor the idea that their fun election game coverage was in any way corrupted.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:01:32pm

re: #68 lawhawk

Geidner name the names who have been granted immunity:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:01:34pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

I read that he was highlighting “Made In America” products - the F35, Moon Pies, and gun safes.

The F35 is a boondoggle.

Moon Pies are about as American as you can imagine, and not in a good way like Corvettes. More like Twinkies.

And gun safes, which no other country needs.

Don’t we also make pizza and Kit Kats?

He should highlight those.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:02:47pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

I read that he was highlighting “Made In America” products - the F35, Moon Pies, and gun safes.

The F35 is a boondoggle.

Moon Pies are about as American as you can imagine, and not in a good way like Corvettes. More like Twinkies.

And gun safes, which no other country needs.

Don’t you be disparaging Moon Pies, dude!!

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:02:55pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

I read that he was highlighting “Made In America” products - the F35, Moon Pies, and gun safes.

The F35 is a boondoggle.

Moon Pies are about as American as you can imagine, and not in a good way like Corvettes. More like Twinkies.

And gun safes, which no other country needs.

I believe there was also supposed to be highlighting of Wiffle Balls (AND bats), cookie cutters and pepperoni rolls.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:03:20pm

re: #81 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Cillizza is upset that Trump won’t tell the particular obvious lie he wants to hear.

cnn.com

Even if DJT has won every one of his states by one single vote, our media talking heads would still be insisting that the Russian interference didn’t affect the outcome.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:03:48pm

re: #87 BeachDem

I believe there was also supposed to be highlighting of Wiffle Balls (AND bats), cookie cutters and pepperoni rolls.

Not Hot Pockets? His online supporters will feel left out.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:04:04pm

AMBIEN CAPSICULE

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:04:35pm

So, Avenatti was right all along about there being many Cohen tapes.

I sure hope he is also right when he said that those tapes and other Cohen material gathered in the raid on his offices and homes will be the end of Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:05:24pm

re: #86 Belafon

Don’t you be disparaging Moon Pies, dude!!

Moon Pies are the kind of thing you see when on vacation, and you say, “Hey, Honey, look! Moon Pies!” and you buy a couple. Later, you eat them, nostalgia flooding your tastebuds, and are glad you only bought a couple.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:05:55pm

re: #69 Sir John Barron

Oh yeah, sure, Ayn Rand Paul. We just know you’d vote against your new Dear Leader.

Its a long shot, but its the only shot we have; unless some email or recording comes out demonstrating Kavanaugh is implacably determined to reverse Roe.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:06:14pm

The big problem with that whole “We make Moon Pies” thing is that anyone can do that. He’s so stuck in the 1950s manufacturing mode. What he should be touting is our advances in AI that are starting to help with health care and automobile safety.

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Jack Burton  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:07:16pm

re: #94 Belafon

He’s so stuck in the 1950s

That’s really all the needs to be said.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:07:31pm

re: #90 jaunte

AMBIEN CAPSICULE

He would be taken in by the ‘smaller, so you can take more of them!’ sales pitch.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:07:32pm

re: #93 Big Beautiful Door

Its a long shot, but its the only shot we have; unless some email or recording comes out demonstrating Kavanaugh is implacably determined to reverse Roe.

What was it that caused Rubio to grow a rudimentary spine and oppose that other nominee?

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sagehen  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:08:02pm

re: #45 Kragar

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That GIF would be more amusing if it didn’t have the “bucket of ice water over my head” from also including Susan Sarandon.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:08:25pm

re: #97 Belafon

What was it that caused Rubio to grow a rudimentary spine and oppose that other nominee?

The nominee said something racist and Tim Scott was going to oppose him and Rubio wants to run in 2024.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:08:31pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

Moon Pies are the kind of thing you see when on vacation, and you say, “Hey, Honey, look! Moon Pies!” and you buy a couple. Later, you eat them, nostalgia flooding your tastebuds, and are glad you only bought a couple.

I must be unAmerican. I have never eaten a Moon Pie. Not my kind of snack because I was never a big fan of anything with marshmallow in it.

Will I be kicked out of the country???

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:09:21pm

re: #97 Belafon

What was it that caused Rubio to grow a rudimentary spine and oppose that other nominee?

Blatant racism in college writings.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:09:26pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

I read that he was highlighting “Made In America” products - the F35, Moon Pies, and gun safes.

The F35 is a boondoggle.

Moon Pies are about as American as you can imagine, and not in a good way like Corvettes. More like Twinkies.

And gun safes, which no other country needs.

Huge understatement. The F-22 was a boondoggle, the F-35 is way past a mere “boondoggle”. It’s an organized conspiracy to bleed the country white while reducing our overall military strength.

No wonder Donny likes it….

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:09:29pm

re: #94 Belafon

The big problem with that whole “We make Moon Pies” thing is that anyone can do that. He’s so stuck in the 1950s manufacturing mode. What he should be touting is our advances in AI that are starting to help with health care and automobile safety.

He will bring back Schwinn. He can identify with them [no ‘them’ there, now], because they went bankrupt twice.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:09:42pm

re: #81 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Cillizza is upset that Trump won’t tell the particular obvious lie he wants to hear.

cnn.com

Except that the yam pretty much said that in February (except for the treating them that way until their behavior changes)

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:09:59pm

This is all kinds of fucking awesome.

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:10:33pm

Fucker’s so shook he can’t even read.

Must be something big and bad out there, and he’s waiting for it to drop.

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:10:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:12:06pm

re: #94 Belafon

The big problem with that whole “We make Moon Pies” thing is that anyone can do that. He’s so stuck in the 1950s manufacturing mode. What he should be touting is our advances in AI that are starting to help with health care and automobile safety.

I know some people whose brains work in such a way that however they first hear a word pronounced, that is how they will always pronounce it.

I think Trump is that way with the world in general. It explains his views on the economy - that America needs to rebuild the heavy, ‘smokestack’ manufacturing economy of the 1940-1980 era - and on foreign policy, where Europe is a bunch of ungrateful economies who need us more than we need them, AND where Russia is the most important country other than us. Also his views on race, women, religion, etc.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:13:09pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

I mean, for chrissakes, he and Bannon were talking about rebuilding the coal mines, steel mills, iron works, and shipwrights.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:13:33pm

re: #106 makeitstop

Fucker’s so shook he can’t even read.

Must be something big and bad out there, and he’s waiting for it to drop.

I think that image of him coming onto the stage at Helsinki looking like he just got real real bad news showed he is far from comfortable in his own clothes these days.

He’s a mess. I bet he is really getting strange around the White House at night after the realities from another day hit him upside his fake-ass head.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:14:02pm

re: #106 makeitstop

Fucker’s so shook he can’t even read.

Must be something big and bad out there, and he’s waiting for it to drop.

tbf, it’s not like he’s so good at it normally.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:14:26pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

I mean, for chrissakes, he and Bannon were talking about rebuilding the coal mines, steel mills, iron works, and shipwrights.

I always figured that was because Bannon was reading Atlas Shrugged to Trump at bedtime each night.

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sagehen  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:15:03pm

re: #57 Big Beautiful Door

The good news about their attempt to revoke California’s regulations is that it will take years of litigation and probably fail.

Depends on how well Trump’s court-packing went.

The original Environmental Protection Act, and Clean Air Act, both contain specific, overt exceptions to federal law, in that if California wants stricter emissions limits than the other 49 the EPA administrator MUST (not may. MUST.) issue the waiver approving Cali standards. It’s very much the PLAIN MEANING OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE BILL, which sections have never been revised.

Bush’s EPA tried to refuse. California sued. They won in district court. They won at the appellate court. They would have won at the Supreme Court, except that there was an election and Obama’s EPA granted the waiver and that made the case moot.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:15:56pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:16:32pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

SPACE CAPSICULES

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:07pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

SHS is a dope and she works for a dope.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:17pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

Neither Trump, nor the people around him, has a clue how the whole process works.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:33pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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This guy is so pathetically insecure. Hopefully we remove him before he can do more damage.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:44pm

re: #117 Belafon

Neither Trump, nor the people around him, has a clue how the whole process works.

Yep.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:51pm

re: #106 makeitstop

Fucker’s so shook he can’t even read.

Must be something big and bad out there, and he’s waiting for it to drop.

SPACE CAPITOLS!!!!!

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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:52pm

re: #116 Sir John Barron

SHS is a dope and she works for a dope.

I can’t tell if her boss is a dope or a willing puppet at this point.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:18:57pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

[“Nope,” he responded. There’s nothing for POTUS to revoke]

‘I meant to say ‘unvoke’. I mean VOKE, VOKE.’

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:19:07pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

I know some people whose brains work in such a way that however they first hear a word pronounced, that is how they will always pronounce it.

I think Trump is that way with the world in general. It explains his views on the economy - that America needs to rebuild the heavy, ‘smokestack’ manufacturing economy of the 1940-1980 era - and on foreign policy, where Europe is a bunch of ungrateful economies who need us more than we need them, AND where Russia is the most important country other than us. Also his views on race, women, religion, etc.

It isn’t just manufacturing from that period.

It is everything.

Manufacturing, Politics, Medicine, Environment, Media, Entertainment, Construction, Europe, Russia, Asia, sexual identities and freedoms…everything.

I’ve always put his worldview at around 1975 to 1980.

I think you can see it as his period where everything was just fine in Trump World. He was a new cocksure name to follow in New York. He started to get media coverage nationally. He was gonna be big!

And then he was never big.

Now he is a cantankerous old goat that is out to get back for all his failures and he still thinks he is going to be big. He’s The President!

And he will never be seen as a good one. In fact he may lose it all.

It is going to crush him. He doesn’t want to be what he is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:19:13pm

re: #103 wrenchwench

He will bring back Schwinn. He can identify with them [no ‘them’ there, now], because they went bankrupt twice.

Right. Next he’ll bring back steel bicycles, made out of Columbus steel!
Then somebody will point out Columbus is Italian.

Reynolds!
Nope, they’re British.

True Temper?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:19:56pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

‘I meant to say ‘unvoke’. I mean VOKE, VOKE.’

Das Deutsche Voke?

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:19:59pm

Woke Steve Schmidt is a thing. And it’s a good thing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:20:49pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:21:06pm

re: #117 Belafon

Neither Trump, nor the people around him, has a clue how the whole process works.

Hayden, Comey, McCable, they guys, Clapper, they’re all out there, with their Security Clearances, making money on the talk shows, saying bad things about me. ME! Revoke them! Take their clearances away!

CoS Kelly:

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:22:14pm

re: #125 Blind Frog Belly White

Das Deutsche Voke?

I almost spelled it that way. Volk, ja?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:22:37pm

Is Lincoln’s picture talking to Trump every night?

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:22:41pm

The president refers to people like Clapper as ‘low lifes’ and nobody bats an eye anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:22:45pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Next he will revoke Bill Browder’s citizenship.//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:23:10pm

re: #131 darthstar

The president refers to people like Clapper as ‘low lifes’ and nobody bats an eye anymore.

We’ve gotten immune to a lot of this unfortunately.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:23:39pm

re: #112 Belafon

I always figured that was because Bannon was reading Atlas Shrugged to Trump at bedtime each night.

“Steve! Read me the part where Dagny Taggart gets raped!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:23:39pm

re: #131 darthstar

The president refers to people like Clapper as ‘low lifes’ and nobody bats an eye anymore.

Dems are so uncivil.

///

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Sir John Barron  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:24:24pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

And it seems to have been encouraged by Senator Ayn Rand Paul.

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:24:25pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:25:26pm

re: #121 Teukka

I can’t tell if her boss is a dope or a willing puppet at this point.

Look at it this way.

Any American that has an ounce of brain matter that becomes a puppet to someone like Vlad is a dope.

And all the people that work for him are dopes too.

Sarah Huckleberry Sanders is toast. She will live her life as one of those people that will always be hated no matter what happens in the future.

She should have used Michelle Wolf’s message to her at the WHC dinner as a sign. There was talk she was going to resign. She should have.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:25:42pm

It’s time to revoke Rand’s headweasel.

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:27:24pm

re: #139 jaunte

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It’s time to revoke Rand’s headweasel.

From that photo, it looks like it’s revoking itself.

Nice five-head, Randy.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:27:39pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
So Trump is announcing through his mouthpiece Sarah Sanders that he’s planning to revoke the security clearances of people who don’t have security clearances.

Such a very stable genius.

4:20 PM - Jul 23, 2018

Smokey mirrors.

He’s got names on a paper…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:29:35pm

re: #139 jaunte

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It’s time to revoke Rand’s headweasel.

To repeat:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:30:50pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:30:51pm

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is Lincoln’s picture talking to Trump every night?

Nixon’s is.

And he’s saying:

“Thanks Donald…you are making me look good!” (And then he cackles endlessly)

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:31:33pm

re: #131 darthstar

The president refers to people like Clapper as ‘low lifes’ and nobody bats an eye anymore.

We are on an elevator that only goes down.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:31:45pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

I almost spelled it that way. Volk, ja?

Ja, naturlich.

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:32:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:33:02pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

We are on an elevator that only goes down.

On one episode of The Simpsons, Grandpa steps out of a PortaPotty, and says, “That elevator only goes to the basement! And someone made a real mess down there!”

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:33:19pm

re: #143 Charles Johnson

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For those who missed the magical cat:

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:37:02pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

I didn’t want to type that at work, but it was exactly what I was thinking.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:38:55pm

re: #149 makeitstop

For those who missed the magical cat:

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I could get stuck in that thread all day. And blame you.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:39:02pm

If they did it, I would donate to Brennan’s fund just to have people understand that when the government does something like this, it violates the constitution.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:44:57pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

I must be unAmerican. I have never eaten a Moon Pie. Not my kind of snack because I was never a big fan of anything with marshmallow in it.

Will I be kicked out of the country???

If you don’t like smores, I’ll kick you out of the country myself, commie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:45:00pm

re: #94 Belafon

The big problem with that whole “We make Moon Pies” thing is that anyone can do that. He’s so stuck in the 1950s manufacturing mode. What he should be touting is our advances in AI that are starting to help with health care and automobile safety.

The advances of the future will be in things like alternative energy and new (biologically safe and non-toxic) materials, not fossil fuels and petroleum-based products.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:45:30pm

Bot responds to support itself.
These people are not skilled.

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:46:44pm

re: #151 wrenchwench

I could get stuck in that thread all day. And blame you.

You have my blessings.

‘I woulda fixed your bike, but that dude in New York got me all distracted!’ :)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:47:18pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:47:54pm

While we’re building Space Capsicules:

Testing the Russian humanoid rescue robot Fyodor created by the Russian Foundation for Advanced Research Projects by order of the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry, at the Android Technics Scientific Production Association. The robot can be remotely controlled by a person in a special suit or work autonomously performing voice commands. Credit: Donat Sorokin/TASS/Getty
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:50:06pm

re: #158 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

esting the Russian humanoid rescue robot Fyodor created by the Russian Foundation for Advanced Research Projects by order of the Russian Emergency Situations Ministry, at the Android Technics Scientific Production Association. The robot can be remotely controlled by a person in a special suit or work autonomously performing voice commands. Credit: Donat Sorokin/TASS/Getty

thinking of the human “liquidators” who were sent in lead suits in 30-second shifts to clean up the Chernobyl disaster

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:50:19pm

re: #158 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Forgot this part:

An unnamed “source in the rocket and space industry” has told Russia’s international news agency, RIA Novosti, that two androids, as part of Russia’s robot platform FEDOR (Final Experimental Demonstration Object Research), will fly a crewless Soyuz spacecraft to the International Space Station in 2019.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:50:34pm

re: #158 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve seen this movie before:

Hector from “Saturn 3”
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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:52:55pm

More audio on the way….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:52:58pm

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

I’ve seen this movie before:

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We all have…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:53:52pm

re: #1 lawhawk

Is there any way for California to fight this? They should take this to court and fight it all the way up to SCOTUS.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:55:01pm

With the new court, they’ll lose.

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Skip Intro  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:55:15pm

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

Don’t worry, we will unless the Russians get Cox elected governor.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:55:48pm

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

Is there any way for California to fight this? They should take this to court and fight it all the way up to SCOTUS.

They will definitely fight this in court, and probably win.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:55:50pm

re: #165 Colère Tueur de Lapin

With thee new court, they’ll lose.

You never know. It’s possible some of the Conservatives actually believe in States Rights.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:56:52pm

re: #166 Skip Intro

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

Good to hear. Trump isn’t a dictator quite yet. I hope this spurs Californians to vote out all Republicans in California.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jul 23, 2018 • 1:57:25pm

re: #165 Colère Tueur de Lapin

With the new court, they’ll lose.

Not so fast…. if they rule against California then it opens up Texas and all those Conservative textbooks with make-believe history and “science” in them.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:00:23pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

Exactly. Rightwingers are supposedly so pro-state rights that they use them to justify the Confederacy.

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gwangung  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:02:05pm

re: #171 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. Rightwingers are supposedly so pro-state rights that they use them to justify the Confederacy.

Consistency? For Republicans? Umm…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:03:18pm

re: #171 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. Rightwingers are supposedly so pro-state rights that they use them to justify whatever it is they wish to justify at the moment.

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austin_blue  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:04:33pm

At 2:51 we were at 108º.

That’s kinda toasty.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:04:57pm

re: #100 ObserverArt

I must be unAmerican. I have never eaten a Moon Pie. Not my kind of snack because I was never a big fan of anything with marshmallow in it.

Will I be kicked out of the country???

I ate part of a Moon Pie back in 1964, and that was enough.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:05:19pm

re: #172 gwangung

Consistency? For Republicans? Umm…..

Neither side is consistent about whether they believe in states rights or not. The difference is:
1. Dems tend to side with which ever choice leads to more individual freedom.
2. Repubs tend to side with which ever one restricts their freedom.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:06:07pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This is not normal. I wonder what we’re waiting for Trump to do before we become alarmed. I feel sorry for the Democratic President who has to come in and clean up his mess.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:06:37pm

Gonna call it a night. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Skip Intro  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:07:12pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:07:27pm

Temps in the mid to upper 90’s in Germany, which is extreme in a country where residential AC is all but unknown.

Thank god I will be working this week in an office with an air-conditioned server room.

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ckkatz  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:08:48pm

Interestingly Southerners in the 1850s were for States right regarding slavery.

Then when northern states refused to return escaped slaves, southerners demanded the Federal government step in and they became against states rights.

A bit off topic, there were discussions in among some slavers in the 1850’s to legalize slavery of whites.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:10:58pm

re: #181 ckkatz

Interestingly Southerners in the 1850s were for States right regarding slavery.

Then when northern states refused to return escaped slaves, southerners demanded the Federal government step in and they became against states rights.

A bit off topic, there were discussions in among some slavers in the 1850’s to legalize slavery of whites.

A bit too difficult to enforce in the days before fingerprints or genetic testing…

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:12:28pm

From Benjamin Witt’s tweet:
“I just texted @Comey asking whether he even has a security clearance to revoke.

“Nope,” he responded. There’s nothing for POTUS to revoke. Comey says he was “read out” when he left government as per normal practice.”

Branded TV Series Theme Song

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BeenHereAwhile  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:13:00pm

re: #31 Dave In Austin

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Looks like it’s time to soak a towel with ether and put it down on the floorboards, so the fumes will rise up in their faces all the way to Las Vegas.
.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:13:56pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

You never know. It’s possible some of the Conservatives actually believe in States Rights.

Some actually do. The dumb, but not racist, ones don’t get that states-rights meant denying civil-rights protections in fucked up states.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:15:07pm

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Temps in the mid to upper 90’s in Germany, which is extreme in a country where residential AC is all but unknown.

Thank god I will be working this week in an office with an air-conditioned server room.

I’d expect server-rooms to over-heat in places that don’t normally get hot.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:16:17pm

I know Michael has gotten on some of your nerves but I love his tenacity. He keeps poking.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:16:49pm

The problem these “states’ rights” conservatives will need to think about is can they restrict California and yet allow Colorado to keep marijuana legal, and there are some that think CO should be allowed to do it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:17:09pm

re: #179 Skip Intro

Probably. So far, anyway.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:17:44pm

Apropos the States Rights discussion…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:19:08pm

re: #183 BlueSpotinAL

From Benjamin Witt’s tweet:
“I just texted @Comey asking whether he even has a security clearance to revoke.

“Nope,” he responded. There’s nothing for POTUS to revoke. Comey says he was “read out” when he left government as per normal practice.”

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Video

And suddenly childhood memories of squealing in laughter when we sang “stranded…stranded on the toilet bowl; what can you do when you’re stranded and you can’t find a roll….”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:19:26pm

re: #188 Belafon

The needle these “states’ rights” conservatives will need to thread is can they restrict California and yet allow Colorado to keep marijuana legal, and there are some that think CO should be allowed to do it.

A lot of them want to harm Colorado for being less destructive than more senselessly authoritarian states. The authoritarians are having a hard time with the idea of freedom, unless it’s the freedom to be bigoted.

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ckkatz  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:20:24pm

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A bit too difficult to enforce in the days before fingerprints or genetic testing…

I suspect that in those days possession was pretty much the law.

For example when Lee invaded Pennsylvania in 1863, the Confederate army sent out units to kidnap any blacks that they could find, free, escaped slave, it didn’t matter.

post-gazette.com

Not sure how slavery of whites would have worked. However, since the Antebellum South excelled in armed militias, and in slave belt areas, everything was subordinated to the Slavers, I suspect that possession would also have been the law.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:20:36pm

“Local power is personalistic, relational, affectionate, irregular and based on a shared history of reciprocity and trust.”

……..

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:22:31pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:22:33pm

re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White

“Federal power is impersonal, uniform, abstract and rule-oriented. Local power is personalistic, relational, affectionate, irregular and based on a shared history of reciprocity and trust.”

Jim Crow was a reciprocal and mutually trusted fellow, wasn’t he?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:23:46pm

re: #194 jaunte

Yeah, Brooks is pretty much an idiot. He’s what’s wrong with Conservatism, by which I mean standard, old-style Conservatism - its based on a hallowed system that never existed, in a golden age that never existed.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:23:59pm

Nothing says grass-roots movement like a membership packed with stock photos.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:24:11pm

re: #194 jaunte

“Local power is personalistic, relational, affectionate, irregular and based on a shared history of reciprocity and trust.”

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……..

Stole that.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:25:03pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

You never know. It’s possible some of the Conservatives actually believe in States Rights.

Not for this they won’t.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:25:49pm

re: #183 BlueSpotinAL

From Benjamin Witt’s tweet:
“I just texted @Comey asking whether he even has a security clearance to revoke.

“Nope,” he responded. There’s nothing for POTUS to revoke. Comey says he was “read out” when he left government as per normal practice.”

[Embedded content]

Video

What kind of shitty sword can you just break in half over your knee? Obviously the cavalry kept a supply of shit swords just for these ceremonies because they would be useless in battle.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:26:18pm

re: #198 jaunte

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Nothing says grass-roots movement like a membership packed with stock photos.

I’m going to create a grass-roots movement packed with photos of superheroes.
Sure some random black stock photos support their movement, but photos of Batman and Wonder Woman support mine.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:26:49pm

re: #200 Unshaken Defiance

Not for this they won’t.

“Corporations are people my friends. They’re made up of people.”

But then, so’s Soylent Green.

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ckkatz  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:30:18pm

re: #191 Barefoot Grin

And suddenly childhood memories of squealing in laughter when we sang “stranded…stranded on the toilet bowl; what can you do when you’re stranded and you can’t find a roll….”

I also remember that song. Interesting what sticks in our memories when so much else is forgotten,

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:30:34pm

re: #201 The Vicious Babushka

What kind of shitty sword can you just break in half over your knee? Obviously the cavalry kept a supply of shit swords just for these ceremonies because they would be useless in battle.

Cavalry sabers weren’t that useful by the late 19th Century anyway, especially compared to firearms. I think most cavalry in that era got more use out of their revolvers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:33:16pm

re: #202 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m going to create a grass-roots movement packed with photos of superheroes.
Sure some random black stock photos support their movement, but photos of Batman and Wonder Woman support mine.

Got dry, itchy skin you just can’t reach?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:33:36pm

re: #205 Blind Frog Belly White

Cavalry sabers weren’t that useful by the late 19th Century anyway, especially compared to firearms. I think most cavalry in that era got more use out of their revolvers.

I don’t think you could break a standard Civil War saber over your knee, even if its use was primarily ceremonial and not for combat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:34:01pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

“Corporations are people my friends. They’re made up of people.”

But then, so’s Soylent Green.

They are legal persons.

People do not need a body of legislation to allow them to exist.

Corporations do.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:34:24pm

re: #194 jaunte

The Jockey Boy restaurant, wow. Just, wow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:34:57pm

re: #205 Blind Frog Belly White

Cavalry sabers weren’t that useful by the late 19th Century anyway, especially compared to firearms. I think most cavalry in that era got more use out of their revolvers.

By the end of the Civil War, most cavalrymen did not carry sabers, prefereing to fight with pistols and carbines

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gwangung  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:35:21pm

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People do not need a body of legislation to allow them to exist.

Well, white males, at least.

Racial and sexual minorities need a bit more finagling…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:35:45pm

re: #209 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The Jockey Boy restaurant, wow. Just, wow.

Our neighbors had a little black lawn jockey. Right next to the donkey cart with the sleeping Mexican in it…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:36:37pm

re: #174 austin_blue

At 2:51 we were at 108º.

That’s kinda toasty.

Blazing in the Lago area. The creek is now running underground so I got water out for all who dare, or deer…

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:37:31pm

re: #213 Dave In Austin

A good day for a dip in Barton Springs.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:38:07pm

Wait for Trump to start TWEETING IN ALL CAPS about RADICAL ISLAMIC JIHAD

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:38:11pm

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are legal persons.

People do not need a body of legislation to allow them to exist.

Corporations do.

It does help. I’m 51 and still haven’t been enslaved or killed by a warlord thanks to a nation of laws.

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electrotek  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:39:27pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Wait for Trump to start TWEETING IN ALL CAPS about RADICAL ISLAMIC JIHAD

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Right wing microdicks are gonna get hard now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:40:08pm

re: #207 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think you could break a standard Civil War saber over your knee, even if its use was primarily ceremonial and not for combat.

Correct. They’re made of the same kind of steel as the old leaf springs in cars. In fact, members of the Society for Creative Anachronism actually use old leaf springs. Cavalry sabers being single-edged for most of the length would have kind of strengthening spine on the dull side.

My point was just that they didn’t depend on them as much as previous generations of cavalry. But that scene is memorable!

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makeitstop  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:41:42pm

Indeed.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:42:20pm

re: #198 jaunte

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Nothing says grass-roots movement like a membership packed with stock photos.

Heh

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:44:52pm

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are legal persons.

People do not need a body of legislation to allow them to exist.

Corporations do.

Tell a wingnut that corporations are a government-created fiction. They look at you like you’re out of your mind.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:47:10pm

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

By the end of the Civil War, most cavalrymen did not carry sabers, prefereing to fight with pistols and carbines

By the time of the Indian Wars, wouldn’t they have also adopted repeating rifles? Henrys and Winchesters? Or were they stuck with Trapdoor Springfields?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:48:03pm

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

Tell a wingnut that corporations are a government-created fiction. They look at you like you’re out of your mind.

They were created to encourage investment, as the amount of owner’s liability cannot exceed their investment.

This, of course, encourages owners to milk them for all they can and then run them into the ground or flip them á la Bain Capital.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:49:24pm

re: #170 Rocky-in-Connecticut

Not so fast…. if they rule against California then it opens up Texas and all those Conservative textbooks with make-believe history and “science” in them.

Please. They’ll dance around that so easily it would make Fred Astaire jealous—religious freedom donchyaknow.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:49:37pm

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

By the time of the Indian Wars, wouldn’t they have also adopted repeating rifles? Henrys and Winchesters? Or were they stuck with Trapdoor Springfields?

I also read that Custer’s 7th Cavalry had Gatling guns but left them behind because it would have slowed down their pursuit of the Indians.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:50:15pm

re: #224 Mike Lamb

Please. They’ll dance around that so easily it would make Fred Astaire jealous—religious freedom donchyaknow.

So maybe California could start a religion focused on the Environment?

Half /

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:51:36pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:51:52pm

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

Tell a wingnut that corporations are a government-created fiction. They look at you like you’re out of your mind.

They’re not fiction. They’re government created entities. Fiction has never handed me a paycheck.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:52:36pm

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They were created to encourage investment, as the amount of owner’s liability cannot exceed their investment.

This, of course, encourages owners to milk them for all they can and then run them into the ground or flip them á la Bain Capital.

The other point, which I made repeatedly during the whole ‘Hobby Lobby’ controversy, is that you form a corporation specifically to say to the world that you are not the company, and the company is not you. It is a separate entity from you. That being the case, you don’t get to imbue it with your religious preferences.

Mind you, if you want to say that your company is you and you are it, go ahead, but then if it goes under you lose your house and all your personal property.

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 2:54:29pm

re: #126 darthstar

Woke Steve Schmidt is a thing. And it’s a good thing.

It’s a temporary thing. If it wasn’t for trump, he would be (and will be again) all over reduced government, no taxes, etc., etc., etc.

This is a temporary alliance. As it is with Nicole Wallace and all the others.

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sagehen  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:00:53pm

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A bit too difficult to enforce in the days before fingerprints or genetic testing…

Branding, tattoos, not difficult at all.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:01:26pm

re: #222 Blind Frog Belly White

By the time of the Indian Wars, wouldn’t they have also adopted repeating rifles? Henrys and Winchesters? Or were they stuck with Trapdoor Springfields?

The U.S. Army’s founding myth was the “gravelbelly” tradition—that the Revolutionary War was won by snipers picking off officers from concealment and making every shot count. From there on in, their choices of weaponry were informed by the morbid fear that the ordinary soldier would “waste ammunition”—empty their weapon in a panic—if rate-of-fire were increased.

Why did they buy the wimpy Krag-Jorgenson instead of the Mauser Gewehr 98 in the Spanish-American War era? Because it had no clip (Yes! Clip! Clip! CLIP!) and you had to fish shells individually out of a pouch and feed them in.

The AR-15/M-16 is an exceptionally sordid story, because it had “not invented here” going against it too….

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:02:06pm

Due to the unforeseen fact that Comey and McCabe don’t have actual security clearances to revoke, the Trump Administration is asking them to surrender their Safeway Club cards pending further executive consideration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:04:41pm

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

The other point, which I made repeatedly during the whole ‘Hobby Lobby’ controversy, is that you form a corporation specifically to say to the world that you are not the company, and the company is not you. It is a separate entity from you. That being the case, you don’t get to imbue it with your religious preferences.

Mind you, if you want to say that your company is you and you are it, go ahead, but then if it goes under you lose your house and all your personal property.

And corporations, especially joint-stock corporations are collective entities.

Ain’t it funny how investors can pool their assets to optimize their bargaining position, and are seen as the very heart and soul of our capitalist system but when workers or consumers pool their interests to do the same, that is seen as somehow a danger to the spirit of Free Enterprise?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:05:14pm

re: #233 darthstar

Due to the unforeseen fact that Comey and McCabe don’t have actual security clearances to revoke, the Trump Administration is asking them to surrender their Safeway Club cards pending further executive consideration.

Something, something “Cold dead hands”….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:06:48pm

re: #190 Blind Frog Belly White

Apropos the States Rights discussion…

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Local power is also much easier to buy off.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:07:57pm

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re not fiction. They’re government created entities. Fiction has never handed me a paycheck.

It does to Steven King!

padumpum *chish*

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Jay C  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:08:48pm

re: #181 ckkatz

Interestingly Southerners in the 1850s were for States right regarding slavery.

Then when northern states refused to return escaped slaves, southerners demanded the Federal government step in and they became against states rights.

A bit off topic, there were discussions in among some slavers in the 1850’s to legalize slavery of whites.

Yep. Check out the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 : pushed on the Federal government by proslavery interests. Basically sold - initially - as a simple bolstering of lax enforcement, the Slave Power quickly leveraged it into a means of fundamentally sidestepping Northern states’ laws against slavery (which the Dred Scott Decision cemented) - all in the name of “property rights”, of course…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:10:06pm

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Local power is also much easier to buy off.

I remember reading about how New York consists of five boroughs, each in a different county, and each with its own separate Sheriff.

Chicago, on the other hand, is located solely in Cook County, with only one Sheriff. Made it much easier to buy him off.

And Gary, Indiana had its own little crime organization that the Chicago Mob would not touch because the did not want to cross state lines and bring the Feds down on them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:12:03pm

re: #238 Jay C

Yep. Check out the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 : pushed on the Federal government by proslavery interests. Basically sold - initially - as a simple bolstering of lax enforcement, the Slave Power quickly leveraged it into a means of fundamentally sidestepping Northern states’ laws against slavery (which the Dred Scott Decision cemented) - all in the name of “property rights”, of course…..

And when it came to exporting slaves to the new Territories being formed out of the land annexed after the Mexican-American War, the law was leaning clearly towards the notion that slaves were going to remain slaves no matter where they were taken, regardless of the status of the new states, slave or free.

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:15:01pm

re: #215 The Vicious Babushka

Wait for Trump to start TWEETING IN ALL CAPS about RADICAL ISLAMIC JIHAD

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He’ll be using this to call out Trudeau.

“He can’t keep Canada safe like Trump can. They need to ban Muslims like Trump is doing in America!”

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:16:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:16:28pm

re: #230 MsJ

It’s a temporary thing. If it wasn’t for trump, he would be (and will be again) all over reduced government, no taxes, etc., etc., etc.

This is a temporary alliance. As it is with Nicole Wallace and all the others.

I look forward to a future of our opposition once more just being wrong, and not fullblown batshit crazy racists and authoritarians.

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:16:29pm

Anything to distract their listeners from the shambling, bad-haired beast actually screwing up their lives.

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sagehen  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:16:57pm

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

Mind you, if you want to say that your company is you and you are it, go ahead, but then if it goes under you lose your house and all your personal property.

That’s the whole reason Limited Corporations were invented; after a bunch of Lloyd’s of London shareholders lost EVERYTHING one bad year when there were a lot of shipwrecks (or maybe it was pirates).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:18:01pm

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And when it came to exporting slaves to the new Territories being formed out of the land annexed after the Mexican-American War, the law was leaning clearly towards the notion that slaves were going to remain slaves no matter where they were taken, regardless of the status of the new states, slave or free.

That was just gratuitously inserted at the end of the Dred Scott decision: “Oh, by the way, the Missouri Compromise was unconstitutional.” Kind of like Citizens United: “Oh, by the way, buying elections is legal.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:18:40pm

re: #242 darthstar

Can’t be McNaughton, because he didn’t put two dozen random folks and The Village People into the picture.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:21:35pm
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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:26:01pm

re: #242 darthstar

I missed the McDonalds in the background in that pic. Epic.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:27:39pm

re: #249 darthstar

I missed the McDonalds in the background in that pic. Epic.

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Do they have any horses in North Korea? That haven’t been eaten, I mean?

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:29:10pm

re: #250 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Do they have any horses in North Korea? That haven’t been eaten, I mean?

Of course not…that’s why they’re riding a Unicorn.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:32:52pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:32:55pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

Wow. In this new NBC/WSJ poll, 52 percent of Republicans say Roe v. Wade shouldn’t be overturned

Because even Republicans have teenage daughters who might get knocked up by some loser, or even worse, by a minority…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:33:01pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:33:33pm

re: #251 darthstar

Of course not…that’s why they’re riding a Unicorn.

Oh. Duh. I didn’t separate the horn from the lightning bolt.

So Kim and tRump are both virgins?

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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:33:51pm
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darthstar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:34:38pm

re: #255 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh. Duh. I didn’t separate the horn from the lightning bolt.

So Kim and tRump are both virgins?

To each other. Putin has Santorum on both of them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:35:20pm

re: #254 Patricia Kayden

NBC/WSJ poll showing no R erosion is notable, but so is this: Indie voters prefer Ds in Congress by 20, and Trump job approve among Indies = 36/58 including 46 STRONG disapprove. As one smart R strategist said to me earlier this year..

This is my wishful thinking: even though Trump polls well with Republicans, a lot of these pare people whose enthusiasm is wavering but they are not about to admit it, not even anonymously to a pollster. The big thing about that 30% is that they could be counted to get out there and vote, nearly every last one of them.

I wonder how many are as enthusiastic now as they were in 2016.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:36:32pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:37:56pm

Is this guy on Cernovich’s hit list?

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:43:27pm

re: #243 Blind Frog Belly White

I look forward to a future of our opposition once more just being wrong, and not fullblown batshit crazy racists and authoritarians.

If it happens in the remainder of my lifetime, I will be shocked (and pleasantly surprised).

I am not holding my breath, though.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:45:23pm

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Republicans also have mistresses.

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EPR-radar  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:53:15pm

re: #262 Ace Rothstein

Republicans also have mistresses.

That doesn’t really matter. The GOP being anti-abortion has always been more about painting Democrats as baby-killers than anything else.

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electrotek  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:54:12pm

re: #263 EPR-radar

That doesn’t really matter. The GOP being anti-abortion has always been more about painting Democrats as baby-killers than anything else.

When Republicans are the REAL baby-haters.

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:54:51pm

re: #254 Patricia Kayden

And Hugh Hewitt felt the need to do a little RAH RAH GO TEAM.

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:57:14pm

re: #260 The Vicious Babushka

Is this guy on Cernovich’s hit list?

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They have apparently never seen Rick and Morty.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 3:57:24pm

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I wonder how many are as enthusiastic now as they were in 2016.”

I assume they haven’t changed. Trump hasn’t changed so he has given them what they want if what they want is racist, bullying and pro-Putin policies. I couldn’t tell you what Trump has actually done to make their lives better.
I’m not seeing any evidence that the tax cuts have helped the White working class.

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BigPapa  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:01:04pm

The Brownshirts and roving gangs are starting online this Fashy Go Around.

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:02:48pm
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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:04:58pm

Was there a ruling today on Manafort’s request to delay the trial? Or are we a Go for Wednesday?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:06:03pm

re: #270 MsJ

Was there a ruling today on Manafort’s request to delay the trial? Or are we a Go for Wednesday?

It has been delayed.
google.com

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:07:30pm

re: #271 Patricia Kayden

It has been delayed.

Shit. I was looking forward to that little distraction. 31st, eh?

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Mike Lamb  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:09:16pm

re: #267 Patricia Kayden

“I wonder how many are as enthusiastic now as they were in 2016.”

I assume they haven’t changed. Trump hasn’t changed so he has given them what they want if what they want is racist, bullying and pro-Putin policies. I couldn’t tell you what Trump has actually done to make their lives better.
I’m not seeing any evidence that the tax cuts have helped the White working class.

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This is a great graph. The problem is that there are literally no Republicans—whether elected officials or rank and file—that would find it credible in the least. Facts are irrelevant in the face of conservative dogma or that 73k Pennsylvanians supposedly saw wage increases.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:10:06pm

re: #272 MsJ

Shit. I was looking forward to that little distraction. 31st, eh?

They’re giving it to me for a birthday present? Hope that means “Guilty!”

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:13:06pm

There’s a hashie trending; #GetUninvitedIn4Words

For me there is one option:

I voted for trump

or

I support donald trump

Both would get an immediate GTFO from me.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:18:50pm

re: #198 jaunte

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Nothing says grass-roots movement like a membership packed with stock photos.

I love when they’re exposed for the frauds they are.
We can see their racism from our houses.
google.com

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Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:19:24pm

re: #274 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’re giving it to me for a birthday present? Hope that means “Guilty!”

Your BDay the 31st? Same as my mum’s. I’m getting back in the car & driving down to Orlando to surprise her. Her 82nd.

Happy in advance!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:20:15pm

re: #268 BigPapa

The Brownshirts and roving gangs are starting online this Fashy Go Around.

Because they’re weak, and can be shut down with a single anti-Nazi punch.
99% of them are a cartoon version of the Nazis, fantasy role-playing just like the anti-American wingnut “patriots”.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:21:25pm

re: #269 MsJ

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:37:07pm
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Varek Raith  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:39:44pm

WTF are capsicules?
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:41:23pm

re: #281 Varek Raith

WTF are capsicules?
/

They’re nucular.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:43:07pm

re: #282 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’re nucular.

*WHACK!*

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:43:56pm
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BigPapa  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:44:06pm

re: #281 Varek Raith

WTF are capsicules?

Covfefe capsules

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:44:47pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:45:05pm

Well my oldest cat is in the vet. Sudden jaw swelling, weight loss. Hoping just a bad tooth. But anesthesia for a twenty something underweight cat? At risk.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:46:18pm

re: #281 Varek Raith

WTF are capsicules?
/

They’re extremely dangerous, and most people are afraid to even mention them, but I can sell you some capsicule-repellent to keep your home safe.

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William Lewis  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:49:21pm

re: #287 Unshaken Defiance

Well my oldest cat is in the vet. Sudden jaw swelling, weight loss. Hoping just a bad tooth. But anesthesia for a twenty something underweight cat? At risk.

My thoughts are with you and your feline. As way of distracting your mind, have you heard the latest Halestorm song?

Do Not Disturb

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:50:30pm

re: #289 William Lewis

My thoughts are with you and your feline. As way of distracting your mind, have you heard the latest Halestorm song?

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Video

Thanks and no actually.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:53:13pm

re: #281 Varek Raith

WTF are capsicules?
/

That’s the medicine they give Trumpy to go to sleep or wake up.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:57:56pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 4:59:57pm
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William Lewis  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:01:50pm

re: #290 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks and no actually.

I preordered the new album from Amazon. Such a fanboy. 8*p

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:03:36pm

re: #294 William Lewis

Glad I did not play that one at work… Little explicit for mixed workspace.

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:03:52pm

re: #277 Stanley Sea

Your BDay the 31st? Same as my mum’s. I’m getting back in the car & driving down to Orlando to surprise her. Her 82nd.

Happy in advance!

Also my brother’s, but I am NOT getting in the car to surprise him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:06:19pm

re: #287 Unshaken Defiance

Well my oldest cat is in the vet. Sudden jaw swelling, weight loss. Hoping just a bad tooth. But anesthesia for a twenty something underweight cat? At risk.

I’m sending all the positive vibes I can back through this series of tubes. Our remaining kitty is only 16, but I worry about him all the time. At twenty-something, you’ve obviously taken very good care of yours.

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William Lewis  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:09:33pm

re: #295 Unshaken Defiance

Glad I did not play that one at work… Little explicit for mixed workspace.

Yeah, I didn’t think of that part - and it’s not listed as explicit on the track listing like Uncomfortable.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:10:11pm

re: #297 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m sending all the positive vibes I can back through this series of tubes. Our remaining kitty is only 16, but I worry about him all the time. At twenty-something, you’ve obviously taken very good care of yours.

Thanks and I just got good news. It was a broken tooth, plus an abscess to drain. She comes home!!! So with that done I suspect she will dig in to extra rich food to regain weight. That vet? If I ever see him in a restaurant or bar he will have no bill to pay on my watch.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:11:28pm

re: #299 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks and I just got good news. It was a broken tooth, plus an abscess to drain. So with that done I suspect she will dig in to extra rich food to regain weight. That vet? If I ever see him in a restaurant or bar he will have no bill to pay on my watch.

Good news indeed!

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teleskiguy  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:11:36pm

UPDATE: Wildfire across the valley (which was clearly visible at night from my driveway) is at 27 acres, 50% contained. Most fire activity is on top of a ridge and cliffs below and the winds are carrying the fire away from any structures. It should be under control, if not completely out if we get rain, by the end of the week. And it’s been confirmed, it was started by lightning.

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wrenchwench  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:12:57pm

super #cute

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teleskiguy  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:14:25pm

Who says tornadoes don’t occur in the mountains?

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CleverToad  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:16:39pm

re: #301 teleskiguy

UPDATE: Wildfire across the valley (which was clearly visible at night from my driveway) is at 27 acres, 50% contained. Most fire activity is on top of a ridge and cliffs below and the winds are carrying the fire away from any structures. It should be under control, if not completely out if we get rain, by the end of the week. And it’s been confirmed, it was started by lightning.

We got rain in Denver, wish I could send it your way. Enjoying the coolth, if not the humidity level.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:17:50pm

re: #303 teleskiguy

Who says tornadoes don’t occur in the mountains?

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Did it have any sharks in it?
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plansbandc  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:19:16pm
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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:22:11pm

re: #280 Jebediah, RBG

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:24:56pm

re: #306 plansbandc

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:25:50pm

re: #307 Belafon

Yeah, Brooks is so full of shit. Local control is really great for those in control. For everyone else? Not so much.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:26:33pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:27:33pm

Why, it’s almost like it’s a party of racists!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:29:05pm

Florida Man gets a shout-out:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:30:04pm

re: #310 goddamnedfrank

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the big clue was that the sarcophagus was filled with sewage…

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freetoken  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:30:50pm

re: #286 The Vicious Babushka

It’s hot west of the mountains too, though not record breaking.

A tiny bit of habitability near the ocean:

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Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:31:26pm

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Stanley Sea  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:32:41pm

Rain rain rain here. Sooo new to me.

I was awakened this am at 5 with thunder claps.

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teleskiguy  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:33:36pm
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Cheechako  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:34:34pm

re: #303 teleskiguy

Who says tornadoes don’t occur in the mountains?

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That’s actually a “fire whirl”(when there’s flames in it) or “dust devil”. Same principle as a tornado but on a much smaller scale.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:35:45pm

re: #317 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

But, you know, Global Warming is a hoax invented by the Chinese, because James Inhofe once made a snowball in winter in DC.

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freetoken  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:35:54pm

The temps are supposed to increase over the next couple of days.

Fun.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:36:29pm

Since we are comparing weather, this is what Philly’s weather is now:
weather.gov
Very soggy.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:38:35pm
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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:39:50pm

Checkout the thread. Hilarious!

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:40:36pm

re: #315 Stanley Sea

sYQkyHNBfu2YdgnLQpKeX/vmHt3Rbr7hiSmIC/8io3rV3+AVjp/a+aBppH8/Ds8YV1IykUUYYYiZxVhpxZ1pZAm7NNat5jk0U59pJ9WsVqXaeUdCmGq2I+Lvd1NMfB5drk/vw9nU+leGEIywdnAUOPBD2sqSUvqoKQNWgivXobBACs3+xaga8VI4fCp5nGsfFf+j5dvvaniU6+e/Q9P7DnX5ZTQ8n+PaHvuS/v6wxAvyCvVvdWSpCykro7y4wT3CLP1dBFYDqOCSggovNGccuusEdFGj/nkMvYZ1Vd88z/ZDAbZYKvX8DGo34Dd8eoekdqu+grPbZrClAFndEd4bcc8SgXtyHx0mILJAd4qT+ppAyx4lIxlT+NQp5qYwgsNSrzkU7Rp/X6c/QcqsAXd8qQ==

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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:41:18pm

re: #323 Teukka

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:42:08pm

re: #323 Teukka

Best comment on the thread (so far):

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:43:14pm

re: #321 PhillyPretzel

Since we are comparing weather, this is what Philly’s weather is now:
weather.gov
Very soggy.

I’m within the sea breeze and fog belt, so I win. Won’t torture you by posting numbers.

In other news, I survived another colonoscopy. Much less disgusting goop to drink for the bowel prep this time (gatorade and laxative cocktail).

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Cheechako  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:45:08pm

It’s 79 with 47% RH here in Juno. Really hot and humid for this neck of the woods. Supposed to be in the 70s for the next week. After all the rain and showers this year I’l take this weather.

Anymouse picked the perfect time to visit SE Alaska. Just checked on his ferry trip and they’ll be in Prince Rupert YK about 10 PM tonight. This weather makes for a fantastic cruising trip through the SE Alaska waters.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:45:23pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:45:42pm

re: #327 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’m within the sea breeze and fog belt, so I win. Won’t torture you by posting numbers.

In other news, I survived another colonoscopy. Much less disgusting goop to drink for the bowel prep this time (gatorade and laxative cocktail).

Is it a good mix with rum?

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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:45:58pm

re: #326 Blind Frog Belly White

Best comment on the thread (so far):

[Embedded content]

I liked this one too:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:46:50pm

re: #329 Charles Johnson

You only say that because Soros paid you!

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:50:46pm
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austin_blue  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:50:49pm

Well, we maxed out at 110º.

Went to get groceries at the HEB at South Congress and Oltorf around 4:00 (the Ocho!). A solid 124º in the parking lot.

Thank Dog the wind wasn’t up. That’s just adding blast furnace to injury.

Supposed to break tomorrow, only 100º. That’s a good thing. I’ve had enough. Can’t wait for August, when it gets hot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:51:33pm

re: #323 Teukka

Checkout the thread. Hilarious!

[Embedded content]

LOL last year people on Twitter who had never been to Dearborn were telling me that Dearborn is a “No Go Zone” because yanno Muslims and I’m like I AM HERE IN DEARBORN YOU DUMB SHITS.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:53:12pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:54:37pm

re: #321 PhillyPretzel

Since we are comparing weather, this is what Philly’s weather is now:
weather.gov
Very soggy.

I know some folks who live along a creek near my Dad’s town*, they’ve had to evacuate because the creek is submerging their driveway. Yikes!

*Funny, small-world kinda story. I’ve never met these people in person, buton the private FB group associated with the Greyhound adoption group who gave us Zeena and Rango, I saw someone posting from Arendtsville, where my Dad lives. Turns out that he’d grown up back where I grew up, moved out here like me in the 1980s, adopted Greyhounds from the same group, then retired to my home town. He and his wife keep posting pictures from back there and making me homesick.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:55:18pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

LOL last year people on Twitter who had never been to Dearborn were telling me that Dearborn is a “No Go Zone” because yanno Muslims and I’m like I AM HERE IN DEARBORN YOU DUMB SHITS.

Obviously you’re Muslim, or one of them lying Liberals.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:56:33pm

Thread:

Here’s the last one:

Because the big point is that while a company can fire you for your political views, the US government cannot retaliate in any way for those views.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:57:44pm

re: #320 freetoken

The temps are supposed to increase over the next couple of days.

Fun.

Really hoping the new swamp cooler saves us from more losses in the greenhouses

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:57:44pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

LOL last year people on Twitter who had never been to Dearborn were telling me that Dearborn is a “No Go Zone” because yanno Muslims and I’m like I AM HERE IN DEARBORN YOU DUMB SHITS.

Hey, listen - Who you gonna believe? Someone who lives there? Or some rando on FB or Twitter who couldn’t find the place on a map?

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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 5:59:23pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

LOL last year people on Twitter who had never been to Dearborn were telling me that Dearborn is a “No Go Zone” because yanno Muslims and I’m like I AM HERE IN DEARBORN YOU DUMB SHITS.

Like, I used to live in one no-go zone, and I can at any time take the blue line to another no-go zone. Or take the red line to another… And survive… Also, if you gotta score halal stuff, Skärholmen (also called Skärharlem by them natives) one of the places to go.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:05:43pm

BTW, speaking of rain, I’m seeing that they’ve had 7” of rain since Saturday in my hometown. Maybe I DON’T want to retire there. Not without a boat, anyhow.

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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:06:59pm

Looksie what’s at the top-ish of the news in Sweden…
translate.google.com

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Cheechako  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:07:14pm
John Brennan, former CIA Director
James Comey, former FBI Director
James Clapper, former DNI
Michael Hayden, former CIA Director
Susan Rice, former National Security Adviser
Andrew McCabe, former FBI Deputy Director

These individuals and many other top Intelligence Officials belong to a super, dupper secret club. They will always communicate with each other and other trusted individuals to keep up with the “game”. Security clearance or not.

Once in this game you never leave.

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Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:09:02pm

re: #345 Cheechako

These individuals and many other top Intelligence Officials belong to a super, dupper secret club. They will always communicate with each other and other trusted individuals to keep up with the “game”. Security clearance or not.

Once in this game you never leave.

At the same time, they know the code, and know how close they can get to the line without doing anything illegal.

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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:09:02pm

re: #345 Cheechako

These individuals and many other top Intelligence Officials belong to a super, dupper secret club. They will always communicate with each other and other trusted individuals to keep up with the “game”. Security clearance or not.

Once in this game you never leave.

Also, you weave your personal network outside the USIC, get to know pals at the Finnish or Swedish Security services, the DGSE etc…..

348
Cheechako  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:16:53pm

re: #347 Teukka

Also, you weave your personal network outside the USIC, get to know pals at the Finnish or Swedish Security services, the DGSE etc…..

If I was POTUS, I’d appoint every one to an “Intelligence Advisory Board”. Their collective knowledge and outside contacts should not be wasted

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:19:26pm
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gwangung  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:19:44pm

re: #348 Cheechako

If I was POTUS, I’d appoint every one to an “Intelligence Advisory Board”. Their collective knowledge and outside contacts should not be wasted

That’s because you have an IQ above room temperature, and KNOW you need as much help as you can get to deal with the modern world.

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Cheechako  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:23:49pm

re: #350 gwangung

That’s because you have an IQ above room temperature, and KNOW you need as much help as you can get to deal with the modern world.

I’ve got a leg up because my military MOS was 96B - Intelligence Analyst.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:27:19pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:28:10pm

⨀_⨀

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:28:18pm

Jared still has his security clearance though!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:28:53pm

re: #353 Single-handed sailor

Just moving equipment to all the other sites they’ve been building up.

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:29:21pm

Disgusting that it’s only Dems. Republicans absolutely suck.

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William Lewis  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:29:54pm

Ok, this is too cool. I can’t get it to upload (stupid proxy server, grump.) so here’s the link…

PAINT JEDI!

tattoosandmusclecars.tumblr.com

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:30:14pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s working that pardon hard.

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teleskiguy  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:30:43pm

Just watched episode two of Who Is America? Damn. There are some ignorant bigoted fucks out there, especially in Kingman, AZ.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:32:01pm
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BeachDem  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:35:24pm

re: #345 Cheechako

These individuals and many other top Intelligence Officials belong to a super, dupper secret club. They will always communicate with each other and other trusted individuals to keep up with the “game”. Security clearance or not.

Once in this game you never leave.

I’m feeling musical, so:

No one really knows how the
Parties get to yes
The pieces that are sacrificed in Ev’ry game of chess
We just assume that it happens
But no one else is in
The room where it happens…

When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game…

The Room Where It Happens

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:36:21pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s all, “I meant to do that…”

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:37:59pm

Heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:38:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:40:32pm
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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:42:18pm

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

A whole boatfull.

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stpaulbear  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:50:38pm

Not sure if this has been posted yet. It’s kind of funny that this happened.

Fox News booked the wrong Democrat on a show. She used the spotlight to unload on Trump.

“Despite speaking to producers prior to the interview, L’Italien did not identify herself as anything other than Kirkpatrick until she was live on air, at which point we ended the interview.”

When asked whether he had sent Kirkpatrick’s background information and campaign logo to the network, Katz said in an email: “I showed the exact same commitment to the truth and accuracy that Fox News always has.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:52:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:53:33pm

LOL!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:56:20pm

morons, all of them…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:58:39pm

Home from the gym. According to the Eve thermometer it was 93 outside and 91 in my apartment. Now I broke out my reserves—2 new Quilo evaporative coolers and they’re working in tandem with my main air conditioner.

The first test I did with one Quilo it was able to cool for 8 hours with a full tank of water plus ice in the top slot. Now after one hour the main room is cooled to 82. Not bad!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:59:28pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tough on those Pennsylvania borders!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 6:59:46pm
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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:00:17pm

re: #372 GlutenFreeJesus

Tough on those Pennsylvania boarders!

FTFY.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:01:18pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:02:28pm

re: #342 Teukka

Like, I used to live in one no-go zone, and I can at any time take the blue line to another no-go zone. Or take the red line to another… And survive… Also, if you gotta score halal stuff, Skärholmen (also called Skärharlem by them natives) one of the places to go.

I’ve heard this no go bullshit about the part of Koreatown I live in Los Angeles. There is a substantial Bangladeshi/Pakistani presence. on West 3rd street between Western and Vermont. According to the nuts this is a “no go” zone which is pure unadulterated bullshit! These people are hard working, gentle and honest who play by the rules.

377
Belafon  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:04:11pm

The Amazing World of Gumball did a great parody/homage for Cowboy Bebop:

The Amazing World of Gumball | Larry as Cowboy Bebop: Opening Parody | Cartoon Network

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:06:13pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

morons, all of them…

[Embedded content]

Lou Barletta is a god-damned racist. He was a well-known racist when I left PA in 1982. I hope Bob Casey kicks him in the ass even more than Bob kicked Frothy’s in 2006!

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ObserverArt  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:07:03pm

re: #373 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Heh. Johnny Kasich in his every man costume.

David Pepper is in his first big election as head of The Ohio Democratic Party. One thing for sure is they are way more active in new media than before. Hopefully his changes and thinking help land some major Democratic positions. Governor would be nice. More House Members too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:13:03pm

Long before Aladdin Sane or Ziggy Stardust, a skinny 16-year-old with ambitions to be a saxophonist agreed to do lead vocals on a demo track, in a small studio in south London. Now the only known recording of the resulting session, with David Bowie singing I Never Dreamed with his first band, The Konrads, has resurfaced in an old bread basket, and is expected to fetch £10,000 at auction.

The record company evidently failed to recognise the potential of the voice that would become one of the most famous of the 20th century. The Konrads did not win the longed-for audition with Decca, although the record company did give them a trial later that year - and turned them down - soon before Bowie left the band citing artistic differences.

The tape was rediscovered by David Hadfield, who was slightly older than the other Konrads, and who was both their drummer and manager. He found it when moving home, stashed in an old bread basket that had belonged to his grandfather along with a host of other material including booking forms, photographs, promotional sketches, letters and bills, in a loft above the garage.

381
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:14:54pm

Creative to be sure but I can still only give this one a 6. Needs some UFO and maybe a dash of Rothschild.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:25:36pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:26:54pm
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Teukka  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:27:45pm

re: #383 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Meh.

UHF (11/12) Movie CLIP - Gandhi II (1989) HD

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:32:07pm
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fern01  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:33:19pm

re: #91 ObserverArt

So, Avenatti was right all along about there being many Cohen tapes.

I sure hope he is also right when he said that those tapes and other Cohen material gathered in the raid on his offices and homes will be the end of Trump.

Wonder if trump is paying Stormy’s husband. Trump loves to take children from their mothers.

Stormy Daniels’ husband Glendon Crain cites cheating as grounds for divorce
abc.net.au
Mr Crain alleges adultery as grounds for the divorce and seeks sole custody of the couple’s seven-year-old daughter and child support from Ms Clifford, as well as a financial award and disproportionate share of the couple’s property.

Ms Clifford’s lawyer Michael Avenatti said in a tweet that Ms Daniels and Mr Crain decided mutually to end their marriage and that the “accuracy” of the divorce petition was “vehemently disputed.”

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Interesting Times  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:35:35pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:39:10pm
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:42:46pm
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Kragar  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:44:56pm
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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:45:08pm
the Constitution has implicit limits on the President’s ability to abuse his power for self-dealing and personal gain

If more people don’t insist that it does, we are absolutely on the verge of a dictatorship.

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William Lewis  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:47:44pm

re: #361 BeachDem

I’m feeling musical, so:

No one really knows how the
Parties get to yes
The pieces that are sacrificed in Ev’ry game of chess
We just assume that it happens
But no one else is in
The room where it happens…

When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game…

[Embedded content]

My favorite take on that concept…
“He was just a little villain. An old-fashioned craftsman, making crimes one-off. The really unforgivable acts are committed by calm men in beautiful green silk rooms, who deal death wholesale, by the shipload, without lust, or anger, or desire, or any redeeming emotion to excuse them but cold fear of some pretended future. But the crimes they hope to prevent in that future are imaginary. The ones they commit in the present—they are real.”

Cordelia’s Honor LM Bujold

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Interesting Times  Jul 23, 2018 • 7:49:20pm

re: #391 jaunte

If more people don’t insist that it does, we are absolutely on the verge of a dictatorship.

Stage 1: “Where does it say I can’t do it?”
Stage 2: “I don’t care, I’m doing it anyway”
Stage 3: “I’ve done it once already and no one stopped me, so…”

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jaunte  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:02:07pm
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:03:09pm

re: #356 MsJ

The GOPpers don’t need to investigate.

They already know.

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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:08:44pm
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MsJ  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:15:18pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:26:39pm

Honestly, the last time I remember seeing anything about Jackie Mason in the press was about 20 years ago when he cancelled a show in Chicago after he found out the opening act was a Palestinian-American.

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:30:57pm

re: #376 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve heard this no go bullshit about the part of Koreatown I live in Los Angeles. There is a substantial Bangladeshi/Pakistani presence. on West 3rd street between Western and Vermont. According to the nuts this is a “no go” zone which is pure unadulterated bullshit! These people are hard working, gentle and honest who play by the rules.

LA’s Koreatown was one of the first episodes Anthony Bourdain did when he moved from Travel Channel to CNN for Parts Unknown several years ago; it’s one of my favorite episodes out of any of his series on any network. He started out the episode talking about the ‘92 LA riots and how Koreatown had to defend itself after being left by the LAPD to burn and how they rebuilt after being nearly wiped out, about LA lowrider culture, about Little Bangladesh, and about “bad Koreans” like chef Roy Choi and artist Dave Choe (as well as about the Sizzler and Jollibee).

Long live the “bad Koreans”.

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mmmirele  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:35:14pm

re: #381 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

[Embedded content]

Creative to be sure but I can still only give this one a 6. Needs some UFO and maybe a dash of Rothschild.

Actually, I’ve been dipping into Jason Colavito’s blog. He keeps an eye on the “Ancient Aliens” crowd, which of course gets into UFOs and all sorts of other pseudoscientific crazy. Anyway, he argued last week that the older members of this loose collective tend to be more white and more conservative.

jasoncolavito.com

Also, this, from April:

Top MUFON Official Quits Over Organization’s Continued Support of John Ventre a Year After Ventre’s Racist Rant

jasoncolavito.com

This would normally just be fringe, but A&E Networks is making tons of money off its AlienCon, and is expanding it to Baltimore this November. Plus, they had a really kissy-kissy article in New York Times Style on Sunday.

Suspicious Minds

Mingling with wariness and wonder at a conference devoted to “Ancient Aliens.”

nytimes.com

Gah, the Times is useless! But what’s funny about this is my brother was talking about the new AlienCon in Baltimore (he likes to hate-watch Giorgio Tsukalos, he of the wild hair and “Even if it’s not aliens, it’s aliens” meme) on Saturday, and later in the day, I came across this article.

ETA: One of my dear friends knows Janet Mefferd. Janet doesn’t like me very much at all because I tend to show up and bust her right-wing act with some reality. She finally blocked me on Twitter.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:54:11pm

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is Lincoln’s picture talking to Trump every night?

Hope it talks some sense into him.


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