Tiny Desk: World Class Harmonica Virtuoso Frédéric Yonnet With Special Guest Dave Chappelle

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July 9, 2018 | Abby O’Neill — When Dave Chappelle jumped on to the mic to introduce harmonica player Frédéric Yonnet and The Band With No Name, it was clear this would be a special Tiny Desk. Chappelle and Yonnet’s decade-long friendship started when Chappelle invited the French musician to play his Block Party tour in 2006. Yonnet later became the musical host of Dave Chappelle’s Juke Joint, a series of intimate parties featuring Yonnet, The Band With No Name, and an all-star cast of unannounced musicians and actors.

Yonnet (pronounced YAH-nay) kicked off the Tiny Desk concert with a mélange of New Orleans jazz and funk. From the moment the NPR staff first heard his pocket-sized harmonica, you could feel the electricity in the room. There are virtually no limitations to this instrument in the hands of Yonnet, who is famous for his ability to play chromatic notes on a diatonic harmonica. It’s one of the reasons he’s toured with Stevie Wonder, Prince, Erykah Badu and Ed Sheeran. During Chappelle’s introduction, he told the crowd about how Yonnet met Wonder at the Grammys and was asked to hop on the Songs In the Key of Life tour. “He’s so good at playing harmonica that another man good at harmonica hired him,” Chappelle joked.

Yonnet and his Band With No Name were right in the pocket with original funky numbers “Four20” and “FRéEDlosophy,” both of which will appear on his upcoming album, Reed My Lips. Chappelle’s desire to hear some of that “Mississippi Delta blues” prompted “No Smokin’ Blues,” which gave guitarist Robbie McDonald, saxophonist Matthew Rippetoe, trumpet player Joe Herrera and keyboardist Daryl Hunt a chance to shine.

After his friend’s Tiny Desk concert ended, Chappelle spent an hour touring the NPR newsroom, where he mimicked NPR’s newscasters and teased them with genuine affection. It was a great respite from the daily news cycle.

Set List
“Four20”
“FRéEDlosophy”
“No Smokin’ Blues”

Musicians
Frédéric Yonnet (Harmonica), Dennis Turner (Bass), Robbie McDonald (Guitar), Christopher Bynum (Drums), Daryl Hunt (Keyboardist), Joe Herrera (Trumpet), Matthew Rippetoe (Trumpet, Sax)

Credits
Producers: Abby O’Neill, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Beck Harlan, CJ Riculan, Khun Minn Ohn; Production Assistants: Catherine Zhang, Téa Mottolese; Photo: Claire Harbage/NPR.

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383 comments
1
freetoken  Jul 23, 2018 • 8:52:18pm

Sean Carroll has a new podcast, and today’s episode touches on probabilities, poker, and related stuff:

Episode 6: Liv Boeree on Poker, Aliens, and Thinking in Probabilities

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TedStriker  Jul 23, 2018 • 9:25:18pm

Fuck, that NPR set was smokin’ hot; Yonnet’s a damn virtuoso and the rest of the band was damn good too.

And, Chappelle is always good.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2018 • 9:48:31pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 23, 2018 • 9:50:47pm

I was surprised to see that Jackie Mason is still alive I mean the guy looked old on the Ed Sullivan show in 1964. (He’s 87)

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JordanRules  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:03:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:07:58pm

re: #3 Kragar

The Iranian People will welcome American and Israeli soldiers in the streets of Tehran as we occupy with grace and restore Western Democracy

How do you ‘restore’ something that never existed there?

I mean, I know Jacob Wohl is dumber than a bag of hammers, but still.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:09:26pm

Finally got a pic of the two doggies together. Dory exploring Rango’s bed. Rango suspect Dory wants his chewie. The Younger Boy referees.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:10:47pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

How do you ‘restore’ something that never existed there?

I mean, I know Jacob Wohl is dumber than a bag of hammers, but still.

When all you have is a bag of hammers, every problem…where was I going with this?…Oh, never mind, I don’t know what I’m talking about.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:10:52pm
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retired cynic  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:11:16pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

Finally got a pic of the two doggies together. Dory exploring Rango’s bed. Rango suspect Dory wants his chewie. The Younger Boy referees.

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Boy, the scale is even greater than I thought. Love them both!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:15:20pm

re: #9 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Their logo seems to show the flag strung on the right side, with the canton flapping in the breeze. Is that kosher? Where’s Anymouse when you need him?

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Targetpractice  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:15:28pm

re: #3 Kragar

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Jake’s so young he doesn’t remember that the last time Iran was under Western rule, it was at the hands of a dictator whose bloody and repressive rule is why generations of Iranian citizens have come to hate the West in general and America specifically.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:19:08pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Jake’s so young he doesn’t remember that the last time Iran was under Western rule, it was at the hands of a dictator whose bloody and repressive rule is why generations of Iranian citizens have come to hate the West in general and America specifically.

I remember several Iranian friends from college back in the 70s. Several of them applied for asylum to escape the SAVIK. They did not like the Shah.

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Kragar  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:20:11pm

So, all caught up on Westworld finally, and I think I found my soulmate.

Westworld Post-Credits Scene Season Finale 1x10

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:40:29pm

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

How do you ‘restore’ something that never existed there?

I mean, I know Jacob Wohl is dumber than a bag of hammers, but still.

Because in these sick fuckers’ minds, the Shah represented “Western Democracy”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:47:37pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

Jake’s so young he doesn’t remember that the last time Iran was under Western rule, it was at the hands of a dictator whose bloody and repressive rule is why generations of Iranian citizens have come to hate the West in general and America specifically.

These people really believe that Iran “hates us for our Freedoms”.

Peabody and Sherman explain it to us

Mr. Peabody and Sherman Travel WayBack to 1953 - A History of Iraq

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:54:57pm

re: #3 Kragar

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Enlist? It’s right there in his name: Jacob AWOL.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 23, 2018 • 10:56:57pm
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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jul 23, 2018 • 11:33:35pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

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Every time I see this I get a sickening feeling that this is just a first step. Big goal is where the Trump team is planning on attempting to revoke security clearances on ACTIVE members of the FBI, as well as some currently in the intelligence community and Robert Mueller’s investigative team (including Mueller himself), because doing so will keep them from accessing sensitive information that would be detrimental to Trump.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:38:29am
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freetoken  Jul 24, 2018 • 1:04:15am

This week’s History Extra podcast (from BBC History Magazine) looks at rethinking 20th century UK:

Rethinking 20th-century Britain

aca.st

Professor David Edgerton explains why we need to revise our understanding of recent British history, from the world wars to the welfare state.

My takeaway, for us here in the US, is that it is worthwhile recasting modern history, to think of it differently.

Edgerton wants to present Britain of the 20th outside the pigeonholes that are often used.

We too, I propose, could do with that here, in looking again at the US in the 20th century.

Instead of the formulaic presentation we often get, maybe we need to take a step back and look differently at our recent past.

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LastYearsMan  Jul 24, 2018 • 1:33:16am

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

I’m still most impressed they’re threatening to take away the security clearances of people who don’t have security clearance (McCabe and Comey).
news.vice.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 1:52:57am

Scores are dead in Greece, burned by wildfire.

Fuck. God damn it.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 2:04:00am

re: #23 teleskiguy

Scores are dead in Greece, burned by wildfire.

Fuck. God damn it.

Global burning.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 2:09:47am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 2:34:35am

re: #25 Kragar

In Kentucky, Spirit cooking is more commonly known as distilling whiskey. Perhaps Tharon Pleiades has had a bit too much of said substance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 24, 2018 • 2:48:40am

re: #25 Kragar

These people are fucking insane.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 3:03:18am

From the previous thread.

re: #393 Interesting Times

Stage 1: “When re does it say I can’t do it?”
Stage 2: “I don’t care, I’m doing it anyway”
Stage 3: “I’ve done it once already and no one stopped me, so…”

This is a problem with the strict originalists; can’t rationally interpret, can’t contextualize, and are all scary Reactionaries and horrible people.

*- Note, I did us the Oxford comma here (the only true and proper comma use) the last two are meant to be grouped.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 3:20:07am

I understand what Trump and Larry Kudlow are trying to do here, but their tactics will not have the results they want. Calling Chinese officials “mafiosi” will not encourage China to open its commerce to foreign investment on American terms.

During negotiations in May and June, China offered to import more US soybeans and other products to draw down its trade surplus, but Trump has insisted on better access to Chinese markets for US companies and an end to what the White House calls forced technology transfers.

“You open a company on a joint venture basis in a Chinese province, OK, and because you only own 49 per cent, they own 51 per cent or more, the local party leaders - you know, these are like mafioso dons, I’m told,” Kudlow said.

“You have to go and lay your entire blueprint on the table, including the technology, and they will have their experts open it right up.”

Kudlow also said that China had not “responded at all, not one basis point, to our request to do something about the theft of intellectual property and the forced divestiture of our technology.”

scmp.com

China does things China’s way, and now that it is an economic powerhouse and not a third-world country, it has its foreigner partners over a barrel. Trying to bully and badger China into agreeing with internationally accepted best practices regarding IP and technology transfer in order to enlarge the market for American goods will. not. work. China can just say, “Fuck you,” which they essentially have.

The “Art of the Deal” my lily white ass.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 3:24:48am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 3:43:04am

This made me laugh just because of how hard they committed to the concept.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 3:47:42am

re: #3 Kragar

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Restore Western Democracy? The last time Iran was a democracy, we helped overthrow it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 3:49:44am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:27:38am

Sam and Ella outbreak in live backyard poultry farms:

Birds can carry salmonella bacteria even though they may appear healthy and clean, and people can be infected by touching live poultry or objects in their environment, the health agency cautioned. “Even handling baby birds displayed at stores can cause a salmonella infection,” the CDC said.

Health officials advise washing with soap and water right after touching live poultry or anything nearby. They also advise not letting live birds inside the house, especially where food or drink is prepared, served or stored. Also, no kissing or snuggling with birds only to then touch your face or mouth.

Who knew?!

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:42:09am

re: #5 JordanRules

Gotta love the Germans. They spelled out the whole word.

Germans have never been known for their subtlety.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:45:17am

re: #34 Shropshire Slasher

Handling infected poultry is also a handy way to contract the Bird Flu, which can kill human patients. It’s a serious concern here in China.

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jeffreyw  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:50:26am

Imgur


Good morning!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:52:47am

It has awakened, and bragging about the Power of Tariffs.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 4:54:10am

re: #38 wheat-dogg

He still does not understand how international trade works.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:11:57am

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

Glenn Thrush ✔
@GlennThrush
Highly efficient WH comms strategy summed up by Trump/Sarah attack:

Everybody is now talking about security clearances, which displaces other stories from front pages/top of newscasts which have finite time/space.

New indignation supplants old, which makes Putin old news.

Morning!

That line I put in bold from Glenn’s tweet is peculiar.

I wonder if America had tools that could prevent really important news stories from becoming old and being supplanted by stories created to take the heat off the important stuff.

Why, now that I think of it, we do.

Newspapers and other media.

Maybe Glenn could get a job at a major newspaper and help keep Putin and Trump collaboration in the news.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:13:19am

re: #39 wheat-dogg

He still does not understand how international trade works.

Donny is still devoted to this idea that he can run international relations like he used to run his real estate jobs, conning smaller companies into agreeing to accept way less than negotiated under threat of being stuck in court for years fighting to get him to pay up.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:19:22am

re: #41 Targetpractice

Donny is still devoted to this idea that he can run international relations like he used to run his real estate jobs, conning smaller companies into agreeing to accept way less than negotiated under threat of being stuck in court for years fighting to get him to pay up.

I am sure Larry Kudlow and others have tried to explain the consequences of raising tariffs on the US economy, but Big Donnie is an unteachable child. The US economy is still running on the momentum built up during Obama’s terms, enough that the Fed wants to raise the prime rate to cool things down a bit. Donnie is against that, too. The final result, if he gets what he wants, is a recession, or worse. And it won’t be a global recession, as in 2007-8. Everyone else is cutting deals with one another, and leaving the USA out.

Entirely coincidentally (I am sure) Bitcoin prices are surging for the first time in months.

Meanwhile, in the UK …

They’re gonna be fucked too.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:21:48am

re: #42 wheat-dogg

I am sure Larry Kudlow and others have tried to explain the consequences of raising tariffs on the US economy, but Big Donnie is an unteachable child. The US economy is still running on the momentum built up during Obama’s terms, enough that the Fed wants to raise the prime rate to cool things down a bit. Donnie is against that, too. The final result, if he gets what he wants, is a recession, or worse. And it won’t be a global recession, as in 2007-8. Everyone else is cutting deals with one another, and leaving the USA out.

Entirely coincidentally (I am sure) Bitcoin prices are surging for the first time in months.

That’s the other part of Donny’s MO: Run things in the redline as long as possible until something seizes and the whole thing crashes, then quietly bail out so that his partners are left dealing with the whole mess. If we end up in a recession before 2020, don’t be surprised if he suddenly decides to “retire.”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:29:54am

re: #43 Targetpractice

That’s the other part of Donny’s MO: Run things in the redline as long as possible until something seizes and the whole thing crashes, then quietly bail out so that his partners are left dealing with the whole mess. If we end up in a recession before 2020, don’t be surprised if he suddenly decides to “retire.”

He would gladly put the US government into receivership to appeal to his base’s belief that tough talk gets results.

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The Major  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:30:43am

Daily Caller: I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY

But then Ocasio-Cortez spoke, followed by Bush, and I saw something truly terrifying. I saw just how easy it would be, were I less involved and less certain of our nation’s founding and its history, to fall for the populist lines they were shouting from that stage.

I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.
I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right.
Above all, I saw how easy it would be to accept the notion that it was the government’s job to make sure that those things were provided.
I watched as both Ocasio-Cortez and Bush deftly chopped America up into demographics, pointed out how those demographics had been victimized under the current system, and then promised to be the voice for those demographics. The movement, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, “knows no zip code. It knows no state. It knows no race. It knows no gender. It knows no documented status.”

Bush, after saying her piece, noted that she had been careful to allow speakers from across all demographics to make it clear that she was not running to represent just one particular group, but all.

Mirrors are something awful…..

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:40:23am

re: #45 The Major

Daily Caller: I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY

Mirrors are something awful…..

These people are hopeless.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:42:05am

re: #45 The Major

Daily Caller: I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY

Mirrors are something awful…..

Ocasio-Cortez is the new wingnut boogeman.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:43:26am

re: #45 The Major

I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.

Instead we could leave the children to die.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:44:31am

re: #42 wheat-dogg

I am sure Larry Kudlow and others have tried to explain the consequences of raising tariffs on the US economy, but Big Donnie is an unteachable child. The US economy is still running on the momentum built up during Obama’s terms, enough that the Fed wants to raise the prime rate to cool things down a bit. Donnie is against that, too. The final result, if he gets what he wants, is a recession, or worse. And it won’t be a global recession, as in 2007-8. Everyone else is cutting deals with one another, and leaving the USA out.

Entirely coincidentally (I am sure) Bitcoin prices are surging for the first time in months.

Meanwhile, in the UK …

They’re gonna be fucked too.

Create a new Super Great Depression to own the globalizing libs.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:47:53am

re: #38 wheat-dogg

It has awakened, and bragging about the Power of Tariffs.

“In 1929 the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the….anyone, anyone…Great Depression passed the…anyone, anyone, Smoot-Hawley tariff bill, which raised, lowered, anyone, anyone? Raised tariffs. Did this work? Anyone, anyone? It did not work and the United States slid deeper into depression.”

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Lupin  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:48:01am

re: #48 Sir John Barron

Instead we could leave the children to die.

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Not only we could but as true conservatives we should.

Besides we can always make more.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:49:15am

re: #51 Lupin

Not only we could but as true conservatives we should.

Besides we can always make more.

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If there were no abortions or birth control. Protect life. Freedom.

/

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:52:41am

re: #25 Kragar

This is a fun game. The fact that we know about the secret Trump Tower meeting between Junior and the Russians to get dirt on Hillary is because of the Carter Page wiretap.

You can’t explain that!

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:53:58am

re: #45 The Major

Daily Caller: I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY

Mirrors are something awful…..

But then Ocasio-Cortez spoke, followed by Bush, and I saw something truly terrifying. I saw just how easy it would be, were I less involved and less certain of our nation’s founding and its history, to fall for the populist lines they were shouting from that stage.

Do I seriously have to point out that all through the election Trump was portrayed as a “populist” candidate?

I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education.

“But as a white woman with privilege, I can’t accept that ‘those people’ should have the same access to either and am totally cool with cutting them off if my children have guaranteed access.”

I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right.

Gee, can you tell that the writer is white?

Above all, I saw how easy it would be to accept the notion that it was the government’s job to make sure that those things were provided.

She says this now, but the moment you suggest she surrender her future benefits…

I watched as both Ocasio-Cortez and Bush deftly chopped America up into demographics, pointed out how those demographics had been victimized under the current system, and then promised to be the voice for those demographics. The movement, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, “knows no zip code. It knows no state. It knows no race. It knows no gender. It knows no documented status.”

“Which, as a white woman, scares me shitless because I want candidates who speak only to me and people like me!”

Bush, after saying her piece, noted that she had been careful to allow speakers from across all demographics to make it clear that she was not running to represent just one particular group, but all.

Says someone who probably spent ‘16 talking about how Trump was a candidate who appealed to the “working class.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:55:29am

re: #20 wheat-dogg

What South Florida is really all about.

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Have you Caucasian-shamed today? Why not?

Please remember to fulfill your quota today.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:56:32am
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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:58:05am

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

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Dubya’s approval among Republicans never flagged even when his approval ratings were dragged lower than a snake’s ballsack. But the proportion of voters suddenly identifying themselves as “independents” exploded at the same time.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:58:27am

re: #3 Kragar

The Iranian People will welcome American and Israeli soldiers in the streets of Tehran as we occupy with grace and restore Western Democracy

— Jacob Wohl

And if they don’t, we’ll nuke them.

Whatevs.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 5:59:51am

I’m not an expert, but something tells me such a massive infusion of cash is not a good thing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:00:45am

re: #54 Targetpractice

Do I seriously have to point out that all through the election Trump was portrayed as a “populist” candidate?

“But as a white woman with privilege, I can’t accept that ‘those people’ should have the same access to either and am totally cool with cutting them off if my children have guaranteed access.”

Gee, can you tell that the writer is white?

She says this now, but the moment you suggest she surrender her future benefits…

“Which, as a white woman, scares me shitless because I want candidates who speak only to me and people like me!”

Says someone who probably spent ‘16 talking about how Trump was a candidate who appealed to the “working class.”

Hi, I’m a conservative and I went to a hideous rally with Bernie and whatshername and can you believe that none of the speakers, I mean not one, said anything about protecting our border, building a wall, and making sure ICE deports every single Mexican in the country?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:02:08am

Alex Jones goes more insane than usual.

He’s really whipping the rubes into a frenzy now.

newsweek.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:06:43am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:06:59am

re: #45 The Major

Daily Caller: I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY

Mirrors are something awful…..

Whenever someone says that education shouldn’t be guaranteed, ask them if they want their doctor to be educated. If they say yes, then ask them why they’re so bad at math, did they not get an education? Why would you want to pay for the interest on the Doctor’s school loans at the time of use, rather than paying for the education at the cost when they went to school?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:09:22am

re: #63 Belafon

Whenever someone says that education shouldn’t be guaranteed, ask them if they want their doctor to be educated. If they say yes, then ask them why they’re so bad at math, did they not get an education? Why would you want to pay for the interest on the Doctor’s school loans at the time of use, rather than paying for the education at the cost when they went to school?

And the government shouldn’t guarantee health care for everyone because we all buy individual health insurance policies without any kind of group or tax subsidies.

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Weaselone  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:10:58am

re: #45 The Major

Wait. That’s not not some sort of onion spoof or snarky liberal post. It’s an actual conservative writing for the Daily Caller?

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:11:09am

Yes, we should drop the clearance thing and get back to the real stuff, but I thought this was a good point:

Trump really doesn’t have a leg to stand on. For months during the 2016 campaign, Michael Flynn was one of his lead surrogates, even leading a chant of “Lock her up” during the Republican National Convention. If it was wrong to be political while having a security clearance, Trump sure didn’t seem to speak up about Flynn or ask him to tone it down. In fact, he hired Flynn despite the White House knowing that Flynn was under investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey. So Flynn was allegedly “monetizing” and “politicizing” his past position, and Trump’s impulse was to promote him rather than punish him.

But that’s also the point. Trump isn’t concerned about people making political statements; he’s worried about them making the wrong ones. Most of the people on this list aren’t partisans. They present problems precisely because they’re mostly not, and yet they’re still taking the highly unusual steps of speaking out. So the White House must make them into political actors. That’s what Monday’s spectacle was about.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:11:13am

re: #45 The Major

Daily Caller: I’M A CONSERVATIVE, AND I WENT TO AN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ RALLY

Mirrors are something awful…..

Hold on…that’s not satire?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:12:45am

re: #67 Mike Lamb

Hold on…that’s not satire?

It’s hard to tell, wingnuts can be such parodies of themselves.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:13:10am

re: #67 Mike Lamb

Hold on…that’s not satire?

They would know satire if she bribed them with Russian money.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:14:18am
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The Major  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:15:51am

re: #65 Weaselone

Wait. That’s not not some sort of onion spoof or snarky liberal post. It’s an actual conservative writing for the Daily Caller?

Yeppers….

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:16:31am

No, it’s not satire, it’s a window into the next two years of political discourse in this nation. All Trump’s promises are falling flat and the fence-straddlers are beginning to be swayed by the “populist” rhetoric of the opposing side, so the wingnuts are falling back on what they know: White Fright.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:22:50am

re: #72 Targetpractice

No, it’s not satire, it’s a window into the next two years of political discourse in this nation. All Trump’s promises are falling flat and the fence-straddlers are beginning to be swayed by the “populist” rhetoric of the opposing side, so the wingnuts are falling back on what they know: White Fright.

And nothing scares them more than a woman of color talking about the inequality that does exist in our society. The sooner we stop seeing this as freedom vs tyranny, the better off we’ll be as a country. Capitalism isn’t always freedom and socialism isn’t always tyranny.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:25:01am

re: #34 Shropshire Slasher

Sam and Ella outbreak in live backyard poultry farms:

Who knew?!

Don’t lick your pet lizard*. Those of us in the food safety business know theses things, but we’re from the government and not to be trusted.

*— seriously, don’t.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:25:23am

Michelle Goldberg at the NYT:

[T]he economic demands that animate the left are generally quite popular. Though “Medicare For All” means different things to different people, a Kaiser Family Foundation poll from last year found that 62 percent of Americans view it positively. A recent Rasmussen poll found 46 percent of likely voters support a federal jobs guarantee, a more radical proposal that was barely present in American politics a couple of years ago.

Centrists might not think these are good ideas, but they are not wild fantasies; they represent efforts to grapple with the chronic economic insecurity that is the enemy of political stability.

Democrats will not defeat Trump and his increasingly fanatical, revanchist party by promising the restoration of what came before him; the country is desperate for a vision of something better. Whether or not you share that vision, if you truly believe that Trump is a threat to democracy, you should welcome politics that inspire people to come to democracy’s rescue.

I believe that to be true, whatever you think of the GOP. We have to continue thinking of new solutions.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:26:11am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the best parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:26:51am

re: #75 Belafon

Michelle Goldberg at the NYT:

I believe that to be true, whatever you think of the GOP. We have to continue thinking of new solutions.

Definitely. That’s why I don’t totally dismiss all that the self id socialists want.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:27:20am

re: #76 A Mom Anon

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

I’ve been trying to think of a name for an economic system that combines the two. I’ve been thinking of what that system would look like, but I need a name.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:27:54am

re: #76 A Mom Anon

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

Sounds like typical libertarian bullshit.

I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY OWN WHITENESS!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:28:04am

re: #76 A Mom Anon

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

Exactly. I always feel the wrong way when I see things that are meant to be inspiring but are actually to me an indication that government is failing a lot of people.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:28:42am

re: #78 Belafon

I’ve been trying to think of a name for an economic system that combines the two. I’ve been thinking of what that system would look like, but I need a name.

Mixed economy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:29:01am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like typical libertarian bullshit.

I CAN’T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY OWN WHITENESS!

They hate being reminded that being white especially a heterosexual white male is close to very easy difficulty mode in this game of life.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:29:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:29:55am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Mixed economy.

Which is what we acknowledged we were for a long time until the right started a third Red Scare on Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:30:24am

re: #83 MsJ

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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:31:52am

re: #76 A Mom Anon

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the best parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

Poors children? Of course not! It’s their fault they are poors!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:31:58am

On another note, I’m 31 today. Crazy.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:32:01am

re: #78 Belafon

What gets me is that there are developed nations that manage to have good and consistent medical care that is paid via taxes, educational systems that don’t leave graduates with insane debt and yet somehow manage not to be hellholes where people are poor and failing. Why not take the best parts of successful nations and study how it works? We’re being stupid.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:32:21am

re: #75 Belafon

Michelle Goldberg at the NYT:

I believe that to be true, whatever you think of the GOP. We have to continue thinking of new solutions.

The problem is that many think of new things and republicans block them. Look at 8 years of Obama. How he managed to get things done (thank you Pelosi!) still amazes me. But so much more could have been done (see Education in Appalachia).

You can come up with all kinds of ideas, but when they are blocked by one side, Americans continue to hurt and nothing changes for the better. And, worse, they come across as campaign promises - broken promises - without having an understanding of why those promises were broken.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:33:04am

My fear right now is Donny will run in 2020 on a “Give me another chance!” platform, where he argues that he can’t get all his promises done in 4 years but if the voters give him another chance he’ll make it happen, and they reelect him by a narrow margin because “we gave Obama a second chance, why not Trump?”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:33:08am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:33:36am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Mixed economy.

Looking for a word that ends in ism. :)

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:34:30am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“They talk about things everybody wants, but they’re Democrats, so obviously it’s evil!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:34:52am

re: #89 MsJ

The problem is that many think of new things and republicans block them. Look at 8 years of Obama. How he managed to get things done (thank you Pelosi!) still amazes me. But so much more could have been done (see Education in Appalachia).

You can come up with all kinds of ideas, but when they are blocked by one side, Americans continue to hurt and nothing changes for the better. And, worse, they come across as campaign promises - broken promises - without having an understanding of why those promises were broken.

Which is why it frustrates me when some of Obama’s voters call him a sell it. You needed to give him a majority and have him keep it. We need to learn from that the next time we control Congress and the President at the same time.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:34:58am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

On another note, I’m 31 today. Crazy.

Happy birthday!!!

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:35:34am

re: #88 A Mom Anon

What gets me is that there are developed nations that manage to have good and consistent medical care that is paid via taxes, educational systems that don’t leave graduates with insane debt and yet somehow manage not to be hellholes where people are poor and failing. Why not take the best parts of successful nations and study how it works? We’re being stupid.

Agree. We used to do that. But we’re being controlled by people obsessing over profits and too many people scared of change. We have to find a way to break that, though I’d prefer to do it without Great Depression 2.

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William Lewis  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:35:48am

re: #92 Belafon

Looking for a word that ends in ism. :)

Keynesianism? < whistles innocently >

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:36:18am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It’s almost like socialism isn’t the lies I’ve believed about it for decades because all I know about it comes from conservative writers eager to preserve their own power and prestige.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:37:08am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Well, Happy Birthday.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:39:11am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

It’s almost like socialism isn’t the lies I’ve believed about it for decades because all I know about it comes from conservative writers eager to preserve their own power and prestige.

The New Deal proved that white folks are totally cool with socialism if they perceive it as benefiting themselves and the Great Society proved that whites will violently turn against socialism when it actually does what it says on the tin by benefiting everyone.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:42:54am

Excitement

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:43:09am

re: #100 Targetpractice

The New Deal proved that white folks are totally cool with socialism if they perceive it as benefiting themselves and the Great Society proved that whites will violently turn against socialism when it actually does what it says on the tin by benefiting everyone.

Exactly. There’s a reason why Ike’s focus was on FP and he talked about making the New Deal more efficient. He know he’d never win threatening it. It became easier to threaten the New Deal after the GS started. But the 50’s? Nope

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A Mom Anon  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:44:14am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Happy Birthday 🎈🎂🎉🎁 !!!!!!

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:44:48am

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Billy Joel: I wore Star of David onstage to tell Trump “Nazis aren’t good people”

I don’t really like BJ all that much (living on LI, you get plenty of proof of how much of an asshole he is), but I’ll give him credit for this. I know a lot of his fans are Trump-loving mooks, and if he swings some of them away that’s a good thing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:45:37am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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unproven innocence  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:47:20am

re: #39 wheat-dogg

He still does not understand how international trade works.

Right. It should be of no particular cause for worry if countryA imports lots from countryB, while exporting twice that value, or half, or none, of goods and services to countryB. However, when countryA’s long-term total imports are not on par with countryA’s total exports —that would indeed be cause for worry. But the notion that trade imbalances between any pair of trading partners is are somehow evidence of unfairness —that’s utter BS.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:48:02am
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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:48:33am

re: #105 Big Beautiful Door

Conservatives know that, unless they are personally wealthy, their kids don’t deserve education or health care, because they are focused on who would have to pay for it, the oppressed rich people of America.

That’s another aspect of white fright, the “school choice” BS which appeals to the wingnuts because it will serve as a means of getting around desegregation laws so they can send their kinds to white-majority/only schools.

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:48:44am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

On another note, I’m 31 today. Crazy.

Happy Birthday, Happy!

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:50:41am

re: #106 unproven innocence

Right. It should be of no particular cause for worry if countryA imports lots from countryB, while exporting twice that value, or half, or none, of goods and services to countryB. However, when countryA’s long-term total imports are not on par with countryA’s total exports —that would indeed be cause for worry. But the notion that trade imbalances between any pair of trading partners is somehow evidence of unfairness —that’s utter BS.

In the wingnut lexicon, “fairness” isn’t really about being fair.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:53:11am

I recall my grandparents knew a conservative couple who was doctrinaire conservative on every issue. But they were fine with government funding for mental illness because their daughter had one. See, that’s the thing. A lot of conservatives are like that when it comes to something that hits close to home to them. Take the Reagans embracing gun control after President Reagan was shot, take Dick Cheney’s support for same sex marriage having a lesbian daughter, and there are more examples too. I don’t expect conservatives to see everyone’s children as their children but I do want them to realize that most people dream the same dreams for their children.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:57:31am

I mean would I rather these people be like Steve Scalise and Alan Keyes and continue to oppose sane gun legislation and making LGBT people second class citizens? No but I would like conservatives like that to realize that government isn’t the evil that Reagan said it was, pretty damn laughable coming from Ron who cooperated with government sponsored attacks on people because they were naive and thought Communism was a good idea during the dark years of the Depression and were sympathetic to the ideology of an ally. I’m not saying that I would have agreed with the people who were leftists back then but I am saying that the Communists becoming the boogeymen so quickly after WWII was a really bad sign. In fact, I’d argue we took a page from the Stalin playbook in the Red Scare II. But I digress. I wish people just realize the government just is. It’s malicious, it’s helpful, it’s neither, it wears a smile, it wears a frown. The government is you just like a lot of business is which is what the far lefties who think all Capitalism is evil get wrong too. I’ve stopped seeing myself in economical terms. I want the solution that benefits the country the most. I don’t care if it’s socialistic, capitalistic, a little of both, or neither. I’m a social liberal though.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:57:58am

re: #101 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Excitement

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I’m pretty much amazed when these guys get back on their bikes after some crashes

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:58:30am

re: #106 unproven innocence

Right. It should be of no particular cause for worry if countryA imports lots from countryB, while exporting twice that value, or half, or none, of goods and services to countryB. However, when countryA’s long-term total imports are not on par with countryA’s total exports —that would indeed be cause for worry. But the notion that trade imbalances between any pair of trading partners is are somehow evidence of unfairness —that’s utter BS.

The way Trump talks about trade, you’d think we were just sending China $500 bn for nothing, when in fact we are getting stuff people want and need.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 6:58:57am
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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:00:00am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

On another note, I’m 31 today. Crazy.

Happy Birthday Happy!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:00:02am

re: #115 MsJ

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:01am

re: #76 A Mom Anon

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the best parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

It sure the hell wasn’t capitalism that financed the transcontinental railroad, but capitalism got a lot of value out of faster travel and shipping. Same for the interstate highway system 100 years later. It wasn’t capitalism that financed the Hoover Dam or TVA, but capitalism got a lot of value out of the electricity it generated. It wasn’t capitalism that funded the space program, but capitalism got a lot of value out of the discoveries and inventions it led to (with open-source patents). Same for the internet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:09am

re: #110 Targetpractice

In the wingnut lexicon, “fairness” isn’t really about being fair.

“fairness” is a complexion…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:21am

Sorry that comes off weird. I’m basically poking fun at Russian racism not the fact that Clarke himself is black.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:01:54am

Why we are and are going to continue to be fucked.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:05:04am

re: #121 MsJ

Why we are and are going to continue to be fucked.

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It’s easier and easier to dupe people. Alexandria has become their new boogeyman. I hope she’s ready for that. I know I sure as hell wouldn’t be which is part of why you’ll never see met seek office or accept a political appointment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:05:23am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:06:38am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh not even close. Sorry but this is a party that still nominated Corey Stewart (1861), stands by Donald Trump, and just had one of their own caught on tape shouting racist shit and literally showing his ass to the whole world.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:06:53am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

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More accurate headline: “Tim Scott emerges as Republican shield against accusations of racism.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:07:36am
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Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:07:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:08:58am

re: #125 Targetpractice

More accurate headline: “Tim Scott emerges as Republican shield against accusations of racism.”

I remember when they thought Mia Love would be their shield against racism and sexism! Guys we elected a black lady to Congress, our very first! Dems, oh that’s nice guys, we actually had a black woman run for President before Ms. Love was born. Noise about how the Dems are the real racists because of weird static about how the parties are teh same as they were in 1868.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:09:04am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

I recall my grandparents knew a conservative couple who was doctrinaire conservative on every issue. But they were fine with government funding for mental illness because their daughter had one. See, that’s the thing. A lot of conservatives are like that when it comes to something that hits close to home to them. Take the Reagans embracing gun control after President Reagan was shot, take Dick Cheney’s support for same sex marriage having a lesbian daughter, and there are more examples too. I don’t expect conservatives to see everyone’s children as their children but I do want them to realize that most people dream the same dreams for their children.

uh… Reagan embraced gun control long before he got shot, because the Black Panthers used to do open-carry patrols in Oakland (see Mulford Act, 1968).

If you want a Reagan example — Nancy’s embrace of stem-cell research when she realized it could lead to treatment (possibly even a cure) for Alzheimer’s.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:09:39am

lookism.net bills itself as a forum for incels, or men who identify as “involuntarily celibate,” suggesting that users are aware of their faults and “were born into a prison where you cannot escape.” Many members are young men who say they are unable to sexually attract women because of their looks. But it’s not just about sex: Looksmax forums are echo chambers for shame, hatred and entitlement. Users fixate on their perceived flaws and rage against the women who, they say, deny them sex — something they feel they are owed.

Lookism, or discrimination based on appearance, is real. Research shows that people who are considered unattractive get paid less and have fewer job opportunities. One study found that juries are less likely to convict someone they consider good-looking.

But men and women respond very differently when discriminated against in a romantic or sexual context, experts say. While women often internalize or blame themselves when faced with rejection, men tend to lash out.

“Males tend to take rejection as a challenge to their masculinity or an insult to their perceived place in the social hierarchy. Women are likely to feel emotionally hurt by the rejection and to assume that there is something lacking in them that warranted the rejection,” according to Suzanne Degges-White, the chair of Northern Illinois University’s department of counseling. “Women are encouraged to ‘get over it,’ but men often feel the need to ‘get even.’”

The urge to “get even” is widely discussed in incel groups, with radical members openly discussing a violent movement to strike back at women and their chosen sexual partners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:09:52am

yowser!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:09:57am

re: #127 Ace-o-aces

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I’m no strategist but I always thought the best way to explain our agenda would be to use some of the common sense rhetoric that the cons do and get away with. Unfortunately, I don’t think that works since things are more complex than that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:10:20am

re: #129 sagehen

uh… Reagan embraced gun control long before he got shot, because the Black Panthers used to do open-carry patrols in Oakland (see Mulford Act, 1968).

If you want a Reagan example — Nancy’s embrace of stem-cell research when she realized it could lead to treatment (possibly even a cure) for Alzheimer’s.

Oh my bad, you are right. I forgot about that. Yes, the stem cell example is better.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:11:31am

...

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:12:11am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ask Michael Steele how that all worked out.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:13:13am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:14:01am

re: #127 Ace-o-aces

you can have clean air and clean water but you gotta go out and buy them for yourself. Why does the government have to do everything?

//

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:15:43am

re: #115 MsJ

I hope Sheriff Bling enjoys the inside of a jail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:17:11am
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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:18:25am

re: #134 HappyWarrior

I used to chat on Yahoo messenger and I “met” this one guy who was unhappy with his life. He was angry and really disliked women. I mean, really, really disliked women. I tried to tell him that the way he spoke about women would ensure he would likely never find someone but these guys will be these guys.

On a side note, he is the only person I have ever communicated with, ever, whose writing I had to, in total, read phonetically. I had to read them out loud to understand what he was saying. I think that could have been an issue, as well, if you are looking to meet someone online, which I think he was. But there was no way around the fact that he hated his last girlfriend with the heat of 1000 suns and he thought all women were her so all women were evil and horrible (which is putting it mildly). And what I found almost amusing was that he was quite vocal about how much he disliked women, but he wanted a girlfriend.

Incel, without a doubt.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:19:12am

re: #138 Sir John Barron

I hope Sheriff Bling enjoys the inside of a jail.

And he is treated the same way he treated those under his “care”.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:20:35am

SIL sent me this from Austin yesterday. So hot there, signs were spontaneously combusting.

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jeffreyw  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:21:40am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

On another note, I’m 31 today. Crazy.

Have a happy, Happy!

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:21:56am
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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:22:25am

Saving this one for future use.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:25:19am

moron mmania in the morning:

it’s all GREAT, doncha know?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:25:53am

re: #144 Ace-o-aces

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The Dems move left is a more inclusive move while the Repubs move right is more exclusive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:26:42am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:27:33am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron mmania in the morning:

it’s all GREAT, doncha know?

These are great tweets, so great, more greater than ever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:27:57am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:27:59am

re: #149 Sir John Barron

These are great tweets, so great, more greater than ever.

Putin is still effin with us, but that’s great too, just really great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:28:57am

not a fan of Morning Joe, but this made me laugh:

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LastYearsMan  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:29:38am

re: #130 MsJ

For the life of me, I don’t understand incels or why the media is giving them any attention. A bunch of guys who can’t get laid? Just fuck each other! Especially if we’re going to float the idea of forcing people to have sex with them, why should women have to deal with their shit? Make them fuck each other. Every creepy thing they say about women, just do it to them. Two or three times over.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:29:44am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron mmania in the morning:

it’s all GREAT, doncha know?

I kind of need one of those ragey ALL CAPS tweets in here, maybe about Iran or Mueller.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:30:52am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s also raining here a lot where I am. Very dark, wet.

But I’m sure this is just Great, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:31:11am

re: #153 LastYearsMan

For the life of me, I don’t understand incels or why the media is giving them any attention. A bunch of guys who can’t get laid? Just fuck each other! Especially if we’re going to float the idea of forcing people to have sex with them, why should women have to deal with their shit? Make them fuck each other. Every creepy thing they say about women, just do it to them. Two or three times over.

You know the thing is many of them could get laid but they’re all a bunch of douches who are convinced that they’re entitled to the most beautiful and subservient woman on the planet. They don’t exist guys.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:31:57am

re: #144 Ace-o-aces

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The DNC is just finally accepting the reality that the Overton Window has moved and continuing to follow an outdated playbook only hurts the party in the long run.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:33:04am

thread

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:33:37am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

You know the thing is many of them could get laid but they’re all a bunch of douches who are convinced that they’re entitled to the most beautiful and subservient woman on the planet. They don’t exist guys.

That is really it, these are not guys who are being unfairly discriminated against, they’re shallow and egotistical jackasses who were raised to believe that their masculinity is measured (in part) on how beautiful a woman they can land and “settling” is only something that “beta males” do.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:35:24am

I wonder how DJT would feel about illegal immigrants caught wearing a MAGA hat?

Half serious question.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:36:13am

re: #153 LastYearsMan

For the life of me, I don’t understand incels or why the media is giving them any attention. A bunch of guys who can’t get laid? Just fuck each other! Especially if we’re going to float the idea of forcing people to have sex with them, why should women have to deal with their shit? Make them fuck each other. Every creepy thing they say about women, just do it to them. Two or three times over.

Incel is another name for Trumper. It’s a “different” group of people they can interview and find out they’re Trump supporters.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:40:23am

re: #142 GlutenFreeJesus

SIL sent me this from Austin yesterday. So hot there, signs were spontaneously combusting.

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Those Chinese hoaxers!/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:40:49am
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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:41:57am

re: #153 LastYearsMan

For the life of me, I don’t understand incels or why the media is giving them any attention. A bunch of guys who can’t get laid? Just fuck each other! Especially if we’re going to float the idea of forcing people to have sex with them, why should women have to deal with their shit? Make them fuck each other. Every creepy thing they say about women, just do it to them. Two or three times over.

There is a very sad psychopathy with these guys. This is from that article:

“Legit bro I haven’t left the house in 4 years,” wrote a member of Lookism. net — one of nearly 7,000 messages he has published since joining the forum in 2015. The man, whose username is Defeat, said he has been following a “looksmaxing regimen” closely to exact revenge against a woman who rejected him years ago.

“I can’t wait to upload my new selfies to Facebook and make sure to rub it in her face … I’m nearly ready, so close, just need the final procedure,” he wrote. “She’s going to be begging for me. I can’t wait to reject her like she rejected me.”

The saddest thing is that if “she” did beg for him, he would be on her in a second.

On one hand, I feel sorry for these guys. I know (as do many others) what it is like to be rejected for looks (I was a fat kid in school). But OTOH, this isn’t just a person being rejected for their looks, they are being rejected for themselves, their inner being. I managed to survive, my husband managed to survive, both of us intact emotionally and with a pretty good sense of self (sometimes too much so).

These guys don’t want to get laid, they want to own another person. This is one of them espousing what their ideal woman is.

This isn’t normal, it’s psychotic. And it’s dangerous…THEY are dangerous. These are the kind of people who kidnap women and keep them as slaves (like those two guys did in CA some years ago); they shoot up strangers and are hailed by the rest of that group as heroes.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:42:28am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This is damn inappropriate. How many Republicans are going to denounce it?

Hahahahahaha…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:42:46am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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You can start by locking yourself up, Jeffy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:43:34am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

I’m no strategist but I always thought the best way to explain our agenda would be to use some of the common sense rhetoric that the cons do and get away with. Unfortunately, I don’t think that works since things are more complex than that.

It will work. “Medicare for all.” “Free college tuition.” Then tell them it will be paid for with higher taxes on rich people, not the middle class, just like Obama promised for healthcare in his 2008 campaign.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:43:40am

re: #159 Targetpractice

That is really it, these are not guys who are being unfairly discriminated against, they’re shallow and egotistical jackasses who were raised to believe that their masculinity is measured (in part) on how beautiful a woman they can land and “settling” is only something that “beta males” do.

I swear if I never hear about Alphas, Betas, and Cucks, I’d die happy. Those are ABCs I’m sick of. I’d rather hear about Absinthe, Bourbon, and Cognac.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:44:09am

This is horrific

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:45:11am

re: #167 Big Beautiful Door

It will work. “Medicare for all.” “Free college tuition.” Then tell them it will be paid for with higher taxes on rich people, not the middle class, just like Obama promised for healthcare in his 2008 campaign.

TBH I don’t know if free tuition is the only or even necessarily best answer. It’s certainly part of it of course but I think Sanders has had it wrong selling it as the only educational point. Early education needs to be a focus. I’ve seen first hand how well my niece has developed after two years of pre-school.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:45:27am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JUST IN: AG Sessions laughingly echoes “lock her up” as audience at a high school leadership summit in DC begins chant. pic.twitter.com

— NBC News (@NBCNews) July 24, 2018

Remember when wingnuts had a hissy when the Obama Admin sent a message to schools?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:46:15am

re: #156 HappyWarrior

You know the thing is many of them could get laid but they’re all a bunch of douches who are convinced that they’re entitled to the most beautiful and subservient woman on the planet. They don’t exist guys.

Unless you are willing to pay for that.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:46:23am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s time for another media piece on how uncivil the Dems are being.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:46:35am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:47:02am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m not sure this is rock bottom, but I can feel it getting close.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:48:20am

re: #171 Sir John Barron

Remember when wingnuts had a hissy when the Obama Admin sent a message to schools?

IT’S OKAY WHEN WE DO THE INDOCTRINATION.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:49:53am

re: #164 MsJ

There is a very sad psychopathy with these guys. This is from that article:

The saddest thing is that if “she” did beg for him, he would be on her in a second.

On one hand, I feel sorry for these guys. I know (as do many others) what it is like to be rejected for looks (I was a fat kid in school). But OTOH, this isn’t just a person being rejected for their looks, they are being rejected for themselves, their inner being. I managed to survive, my husband managed to survive, both of us intact emotionally and with a pretty good sense of self (sometimes too much so).

These guys don’t want to get laid, they want to own another person. This is one of them espousing what their ideal woman is.

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This isn’t normal, it’s psychotic. And it’s dangerous…THEY are dangerous. These are the kind of people who kidnap women and keep them as slaves (like those two guys did in CA some years ago); they shoot up strangers and are hailed by the rest of that group as heroes.

The more I reread that post, the more the perception of these fuckers being the American Taliban becomes real. They don’t want a woman, they want a meat doll that they can fuck until they get bored with it, then discard it for something “better.” It’s no wonder that dickheads like Trump appeal so much to them, a guy who can land supermodels and porn stars, fuck’em as much as he likes, and then junk them after their looks start to go is practically a deity to them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:50:09am

I own a TV, although we didn’t have one when my kids were growing up. We always had Internet, tho.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:50:27am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t know if free tuition is the only or even necessarily best answer. It’s certainly part of it of course but I think Sanders has had it wrong selling it as the only educational point. Early education needs to be a focus. I’ve seen first hand how well my niece has developed after two years of pre-school.

We’re campaigning in poetry. If you try to explain a twelve point proposal for making college tuition affordable, eyes will glaze over.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:50:45am

re: #177 Targetpractice

The more I reread that post, the more the perception of these fuckers being the American Taliban becomes real. They don’t want a woman, they want a meat doll that they can fuck until they get bored with it, then discard it for something “better.” It’s no wonder that dickheads like Trump appeal so much to them, a guy who can land supermodels and porn stars, fuck’em as much as he likes, and then junk them after their looks start to go is practically a deity to them.

And if they had Trump’s money, they could, too.

Which is a very sad statement (and reality).

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:54:17am

re: #180 MsJ

And if they had Trump’s money, they could, too.

Which is a very sad statement (and reality).

That is pretty much what rich dicks do. Not all of them, of course. Bill and Melinda Gates have been together 24 years.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:56:56am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t know if free tuition is the only or even necessarily best answer. It’s certainly part of it of course but I think Sanders has had it wrong selling it as the only educational point. Early education needs to be a focus. I’ve seen first hand how well my niece has developed after two years of pre-school.

Even with all the classes that my kids’ schools offered, 13 years of public school isn’t enough to prepare a person for our workforce. There has to be some post secondary education. Now, it doesn’t have to be college, but even trade schools cost money. And we either pay for that when they enter, or we’ll pay for it with interest plus inflation when they finally get into the workforce.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:57:18am

So much for the benefits to business of that shiny new tax bill.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 7:57:27am

re: #76 A Mom Anon

If we’re such a smart country, there’s no reason we couldn’t take the best parts of capitalism and socialism and combine the two. No one in America should ever lose their home or retirement or savings because of accident or illness. It’s disgusting. And this person really believes children don’t deserve healthcare and education? What the actual fuck?

As Joe Bacon keeps iterating, the worship of ayn rand and von mises is a religion and are not a economic models. You must keep your religion pure, and as such cannot contaminate the whatever randians are and the Austrian economic ideals pure. No Socialism. Even though that type of purity will only result in pain for all but the oligarchs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:00:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:01:40am

re: #182 Belafon

Even with all the classes that my kids’ schools offered, 13 years of public school isn’t enough to prepare a person for our workforce. There has to be some post secondary education. Now, it doesn’t have to be college, but even trade schools cost money. And we either pay for that when they enter, or we’ll pay for it with interest plus inflation when they finally get into the workforce.

That’s what I mean. Trade school, community college. But most of all I want graduates to be hired. I definitely agree with trying to make tuition more affordable. I just don’t see it as the only issue at play.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:04:16am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Money that will (without a doubt) be cut from social programs that the GOP has been looking for excuses to gut.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:04:54am

Every year, the Children’s Charity of the Bluegrass raises about $500,000 from its annual fundraising golf tournament.

But under Kentucky’s new tax law, a 6 percent sales tax on numerous services also applies to all tickets sold for fundraisers that charities and churches put on. The organizers will have to decide if they will let participants pay the tax on tickets, or whether they will take the hit.

Either way, “that’s $30,000 less we’ll be able to give to children’s charities,” like the Lexington Hearing and Speech Center or The Nest, said Andy DeMoss, the Children’s Charity treasurer. This year, the golf event took place on June 18 so it escaped the penalty, which took effect July 1. But next year, it could get a double hit, paying the tax on renting the golf course as well.

Nonprofits around Kentucky are still trying to figure out exactly how the law applies to them, said Danielle Clore, executive director of the Kentucky Nonprofit Network. The new tax law was approved by the legislature in the spring.

One of Bevin’s great ideas…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:05:27am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the guy who opened casinos in a saturated market and then declared the businesses bankrupt, skating away with money in his pockets and stiffing everyone else. No one should trust Trump’s decisions regarding money.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:07:31am
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electrotek  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:07:56am

re: #12 Targetpractice

Jake’s so young he doesn’t remember that the last time Iran was under Western rule, it was at the hands of a dictator whose bloody and repressive rule is why generations of Iranian citizens have come to hate the West in general and America specifically.

Try telling that to the Iranian diaspora who fawn over the shah to rationalize their internalized Islamophobia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:08:05am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:09:19am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

That’s what I mean. Trade school, community college. But most of all I want graduates to be hired. I definitely agree with trying to make tuition more affordable. I just don’t see it as the only issue at play.

I guess I’m calling the cost of trade schools and community colleges tuition as well.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:11:06am

re: #59 wheat-dogg

I’m not an expert, but something tells me such a massive infusion of cash is not a good thing.

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The market is totally disconnected from Trump’s policies and insane tweets.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:11:14am

re: #193 Belafon

I guess I’m calling the cost of trade schools and community colleges tuition as well.

True, true. I just think cost is an issue but not the only one. I dunno man. I see too many recent grads like myself that end up getting underemployed or get mired in the insanity that is the unpaid internship.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:15:14am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

True, true. I just think cost is an issue but not the only one. I dunno man. I see too many recent grads like myself that end up getting underemployed or get mired in the insanity that is the unpaid internship.

It’s not separate from what you’re talking about, for sure. But, if recent grads weren’t paying a bank for tuition, that money would be spent in the rest of the economy, creating more jobs. Also, though, you can’t guarantee everyone a job. There will be some unemployment. We will have to plan for that as well. Germany does all of that.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:15:58am

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If the Dems don’t get out and vote to take over the House and/or Senate Trump will begin locking up his opponents. What’s to stop him?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:18:31am

Dropping this here with some background. Now that Hong Kong is part of China again, the Beijing government is pushing hard to make Mandarin the official language in HK, and to remove Cantonese from the schools. These short videos I believe are a gentle way to resist losing Cantonese in HK. (Actually, many HKers speak another dialect, but it’s close to Cantonese.)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:19:29am

re: #196 Belafon

It’s not separate from what you’re talking about, for sure. But, if recent grads weren’t paying a bank for tuition, that money would be spent in the rest of the economy, creating more jobs. Also, though, you can’t guarantee everyone a job. There will be some unemployment. We will have to plan for that as well. Germany does all of that.

Oh I know. I just think underemployment among recent graduates is something I’d like to hear more about. I agree completely that tuition needs to be tackled. It’s a legitimate issue. I just don’t think making tuition free is the only thing we need to talk about. I brought up early education as well. I’d love to have a public pre-school system for example.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:21:30am

From Balloon Juice, the Daily Caller writer, Virginia Kruta, said on F&F that she was uncomfortable at the rally because of this:

“I was mostly uncomfortable because I was surrounded by a group of people who were talking about how they had gotten involved because they were tired of being angry all the time. It seems like so much effort to be angry about everything instead of to focus on what you can do to change it.”

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Jay C  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:26:27am

re: #200 Belafon

From Balloon Juice, the Daily Caller writer, Virginia Kruta, said on F&F that she was uncomfortable at the rally because of this:

“I was mostly uncomfortable because I was surrounded by a group of people who were talking about how they had gotten involved because they were tired of being angry all the time. It seems like so much effort to be angry about everything instead of to focus on what you can do to change it.”

Umm, can someone maybe start a GoFundMe to buy Ms. Kruta a clue or two?
Ever occur to her that just maybe, political activity due to being “angry about everything” actually IS “do[ing something] to change it”????
I guess not: I swear, when I read that Daily Caller piece, I could have sworn it was a troll/parody; and that no one could seriously think or write nonsense like that.
Wrong again, Jay…..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:27:36am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:30:52am

Time for bed here. See you all later.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:31:51am

re: #200 Belafon

From Balloon Juice, the Daily Caller writer, Virginia Kruta, said on F&F that she was uncomfortable at the rally because of this:

Uh Virginia, that’s why, we’re involved is so we CAN change it. I’m involved because I don’t want a Congresswoman who pussyfoots around what Trump does, I’m involved because I don’t want a Senator who is still fighting the Civil War. I’m involved because I don’t want a State Senator who writes letters praising Assad. I’m involved because I don’t want a delegate who has a stupid paper mache pig. I’m involved because I don’t want a governor whose career has been dedicated to serving Republican donors. rather than the American people as a whole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:32:03am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:32:50am

re: #201 Jay C

Umm, can someone maybe start a GoFundMe to buy Ms. Kruta a clue or two?
Ever occur to her that just maybe, political activity due to being “angry about everything” actually IS “do[ing something] to change it”????
I guess not: I swear, when I read that Daily Caller piece, I could have sworn it was a troll/parody; and that no one could seriously think or write nonsense like that.
Wrong again, Jay…..

what I like about the Trumpers is how not angry they all are.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:34:44am

Conversely, the candidates I have worked for have been about: A more inclusive Virginia, an government that works for the people of the state rather than a select few and who don’t have a Fairy godfunder parent, people who actually see the school shootings and don’t spout bs about good guys and guns and actually talk about solutions. Funny how it was okay for Trumpers in the middle of fucking nowhere to be scared to death of immigrants but liberals worried and angry about what Trump has done to this country are just being angry.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:35:07am

re: #206 Sir John Barron

what I like about the Trumpers is how not angry they all are.

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I specifically like how they always respect their opposition. //

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:35:28am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:36:37am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:36:42am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Uh Virginia, that’s why, we’re involved is so we CAN change it. I’m involved because I don’t want a Congresswoman who pussyfoots around what Trump does, I’m involved because I don’t want a Senator who is still fighting the Civil War. I’m involved because I don’t want a State Senator who writes letters praising Assad. I’m involved because I don’t want a delegate who has a stupid paper mache pig. I’m involved because I don’t want a governor whose career has been dedicated to serving Republican donors. rather than the American people as a whole.

You’re not supposed to be involved. Only Teabaggers can be involved, and true American patriot conservatives.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:36:51am

re: #209 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Here comes the bailouts.

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Interesting Times  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:36:53am

re: #201 Jay C

Umm, can someone maybe start a GoFundMe to buy Ms. Kruta a clue or two?
Ever occur to her that just maybe, political activity due to being “angry about everything” actually IS “do[ing something] to change it”????
I guess not: I swear, when I read that Daily Caller piece, I could have sworn it was a troll/parody; and that no one could seriously think or write nonsense like that.
Wrong again, Jay…..

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:46:46am

re: #200 Belafon

From Balloon Juice, the Daily Caller writer, Virginia Kruta, said on F&F that she was uncomfortable at the rally because of this:

It’s an alien world to her because she’s not used to being motivated by anything but anger. Anger about her job, anger about her debts, anger about her bills, anger about her community, anger about how things aren’t how she remembered them in “The Good Ol’ Days.” She defines herself by her anger and the GOP thrives on that, telling her that her anger is “right” and “just” because “those people” are the source of her anger and they need to be dropped down a peg. So to support a party and a candidate who tells her that it’s wrong to be angry, that “those people” are in the same spot as she is and raising them up will also raise her up, is a concept so foreign that there must be something “evil” about it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:51:34am

re: #214 Targetpractice

It’s an alien world to her because she’s not used to being motivated by anything but anger. Anger about her job, anger about her debts, anger about her bills, anger about her community, anger about how things aren’t how she remembered them in “The Good Ol’ Days.” She defines herself by her anger and the GOP thrives on that, telling her that her anger is “right” and “just” because “those people” are the source of her anger and they need to be dropped down a peg. So to support a party and a candidate who tells her that it’s wrong to be angry, that “those people” are in the same spot as she is and raising them up will also raise her up, is a concept so foreign that there must be something “evil” about it.

It goes to what we have said about the New Deal and Great Society and ultimately why I prefer LBJ to FDR in many ways. LBJ was willing to tell white voters explicitly what FDR wasn’t- that the American dream is for all of us regardless of our race. If LBJ hadn’t screwed up in Vietnam, he rightfully would be one of the immortals with Washington, Abe, and FDR himself. He was a flawed man but no one before or since has understood the psychology of the American people better than LBJ IMO especially its represetnatives.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:53:07am
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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:53:20am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The people who lost their tiny minds over a tan suit think a president “trolling” about revoking security clearances isn’t worth getting worked up over.

Quelle surprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:58:20am

moron haz a concern…

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:00:39am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One of Bevin’s great ideas…

Wait, he is hurting the actual charities by taxing them, yet is one of those politicians that thinks those charities can help out people with things like food needs, covering healthcare costs and other assistance so the government doesn’t have to “waste” tax money.

Bevin is pure evil asshole. I don’t understand how people keep falling for politicians like him. All they need to do is stop looking at hurting others they don’t like and look at themselves and how they are being hurt.

Maybe too many of the people of Kentucky really don’t like themselves enough to fight for what they deserve.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:00:42am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern deflection…

Though I’m sure that’s where you were going.

Back in 2010, when we were losing in the polls but hoping we could pull it out, I would see a lot of arguments like this, hair splitting and “I know you are but what am I” types of arguments.

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:01:14am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:01:50am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

Which is why Putin at the news conference said he preferred Drumpt in 2016 but yeah sure.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:02:34am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

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So, do you figure the idea came from Faux, Lumpy, or RT?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:02:51am

just in the nick of time…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:03:27am

re: #200 Belafon

From Balloon Juice, the Daily Caller writer, Virginia Kruta, said on F&F that she was uncomfortable at the rally because of this:

She should try being a media member at a Trump hate rally.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:04:14am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:04:15am

re: #223 Targetpractice

So, do you figure the idea came from Faux, Lumpy, or RT?

Yes

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:04:53am

This is an incredible thread, tracing the parallel rise of the Russian Mob and their favorite stooge.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:05:21am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

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LOL. They love you. you’re not fooling anyone but your cult on this.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:05:27am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

Very tough of DJT to invite Putin to Washington.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:06:16am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

just in the nick of time…

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I knew my birthday was National Tequila Day but I wanted to get some plum brandy to prepare for my trip next month.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:06:58am

Donald, we’re not stupid. We’re not your base that actually thinks you care about them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:07:02am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:07:17am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

just in the nick of time…

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:07:28am

Just days ago, the Yam screamed on the electronic tweeting service that Obama never took steps to address Russian hacking because “it never happened” and the whole thing was a hoax.

Today, he insists that Russia is hacking and they’re doing so to help the DNC.

I’m sure the media will point out the first to their readers/viewers when talking about the latter.///////

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:07:47am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

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Laying the groundwork to have excuses ready if the GOP gets their asses handed to them in November.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:08:27am

re: #78 Belafon

I’ve been trying to think of a name for an economic system that combines the two. I’ve been thinking of what that system would look like, but I need a name.

Humanism?

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:08:28am

re: #221 gocart mozart

Spokesmen say the president will call the aid package the Agricultural Adjustment Act. The AAA will include price supports, mortgage debt protection and other assistance.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:09:14am

Trump’s disastrous trade war is already forcing GOP to send billions of taxpayer dollars to bail out the farmers who are already seeing serious harms.

Trump finds trade wars so easy to win - especially when it’s with other people’s money (and the harms going to everyone but him).

At same time, the GOP continues backing the fucker to the tune of nearly 90%. Rally around the derp, with a pocket full of dumbassery. There’s no other way to explain this - unless the number of people identifying as Republicans is shrinking, leaving only the hardcore extremists.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:10:00am

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chuck Schumer ✔
@SenSchumer
We hope Sen. @ChuckGrassley will join @SenFeinstein in a joint letter requesting Judge Kavanaugh’s documents, just as @SenatorLeahy joined Senator Sessions during Justice Kagan’s nomination.

Good luck with that Chuck. I know you need to try and it needs to be recorded and seen by the public, but we also know you are dealing with the most dishonest Republican politicians ever.

Yes, ever! And that is saying a lot.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:10:52am

One the office Trumpers said this morning he thinks it would be the “coolest thing ever” if the U.S. “nuked Iran off the fucking map.”

Took a lot for me to not start yelling at him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:11:16am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Good luck with that Chuck. I know you need to try and it needs to be recorded and seen by the public, but we also know you are dealing with the most dishonest Republican politicians ever.

Yes, ever! And that is saying a lot.

I think he knows that and he wants that dishonesty out there in the open for the whole world to see. I think Schumer knows that Grassley doesn’t act in good faith.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:12:01am

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

One the office Trumpers said this morning he thinks it would be the “coolest thing ever” if the U.S. “nuked Iran off the fucking map.”

Took a lot for me to not start yelling at him.

Did you ask him how he felt about paying triple digits for a single tank of gas?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:12:04am

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

One the office Trumpers said this morning he thinks it would be the “coolest thing ever” if the U.S. “nuked Iran off the fucking map.”

Took a lot for me to not start yelling at him.

Should have asked him if he was willing to get off his ass and into a jet to drop that bomb. After all, coolest thing ever right?

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:12:36am

Any Lizards in the Poughkeepsie area?

The wife and I are heading up to see a show at the Falcon Underground in Marlboro on Friday night. Interesting place, from the look of it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:14:45am

re: #223 Targetpractice

So, do you figure the idea came from Faux, Lumpy, or RT?

Yes.

It is a coordinated effort.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:17:27am

re: #230 Sir John Barron

Very tough of DJT to invite Putin to Washington.

Just you wait. When Putin gets here he is going to give Vlad a very stern warning about staying out of our elections…in 2024.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:17:44am

These right wing idiots who think nuking Iran would be smart or worse, “cool” are some of the most boneheaded people I can think of. You think it was bad when we pushed the Shah on them after the ‘53 coup? Imagine if we nuked them. And these dumbasses really think they’d see us as liberators after that. Reminds me of the dumbass Nazis who thought they could invade the USSR and treat the Slavs like shit and then were shocked that they rallied behind Stalin and not Hitler.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:19:00am

re: #248 HappyWarrior

These right wing idiots who think nuking Iran would be smart or worse, “cool” are some of the most boneheaded people I can think of. You think it was bad when we pushed the Shah on them after the ‘53 coup? Imagine if we nuked them. And these dumbasses really think they’d see us as liberators after that. Reminds me of the dumbass Nazis who thought they could invade the USSR and treat the Slavs like shit and then were shocked that they rallied behind Stalin and not Hitler.

These people think we’ll kill every Iranian. Even if that we’re true, though, the rest of the world would retaliate, and Russia would join the world, not us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:19:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:19:44am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!

Trump is teeing up his claim that a Democratic victory in November (a blue wave) would be the result of Russian electoral interference, and such a victory, no matter how sizable or resounding, is therefore illegitimate.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:19:53am

re: #249 Belafon

These people think we’ll kill every Iranian. Even if that we’re true, though, the rest of the world would retaliate, and Russia would join the world, not us.

We would become a pariah for a very very long time.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:20:36am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

Trump is teeing up his claim that a Democratic victory in November (a blue wave) would be the result of Russian electoral interference, and such a victory, no matter how sizable or resounding, is therefore illegitimate.

Oh yes, that’s definitely going to be what he claims when he loses Congress.

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:22:15am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:25:01am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

Trump is teeing up his claim that a Democratic victory in November (a blue wave) would be the result of Russian electoral interference, and such a victory, no matter how sizable or resounding, is therefore illegitimate.

“But you’re election is somehow legitimate? Let’s call it even then.”

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:26:40am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!

This is the start of saying the midterms are invalid. This is calculated for his base that even though thousands are out protesting daily, everyone is really with him and he can claim that he will be dictator for life.

This is really dangerous shit. Everything about him is.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:26:42am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

Trump is teeing up his claim that a Democratic victory in November (a blue wave) would be the result of Russian electoral interference, and such a victory, no matter how sizable or resounding, is therefore illegitimate.

Ding ding ding.

This is exactly what Trump’s hoping to convince his know nothing supporters of - all to further his own illegitimate run in office.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:29:47am

re: #256 MsJ

This is the start of saying the midterms are invalid. This is calculated for his base that even though thousands are out protesting daily, everyone is really with him and he can claim that he will be dictator for life.

This is really dangerous shit. Everything about him is.

That’s the closest to the mark: Some small part of his reptilian brain recognizes that he’s a plague rat and the GOP are suffering as a result. So in order to avoid being blamed for the party’s losses in November, he’s already starting the talking point that no matter what the polls say, the GOP’s losses in November are due to outside influences.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:31:03am

re: #255 Belafon

“But you’re election is somehow legitimate? Let’s call it even then.”

Despite his (nonsensical) talk about a “red wave” this November, I can’t help but think he’s probably been talking polling numbers with the GOP leadership and he sees the peril his party is in.

He’s probably nervous about a blue wave, because he knows that’s gonna open the floodgates.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:35:10am

As optimistic as some are about November we have to remember the Dems are defending a lot more seats in the Senate, which makes it very difficult if not unlikely that we retake the Senate.

And the gerryrigged House won’t be a picnic either.

I’m hoping for the best but want to acknowledge the circumstances.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:35:24am

re: #228 makeitstop

This is an incredible thread, tracing the parallel rise of the Russian Mob and their favorite stooge.

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Really fascinating thread.

The sub-threads, too.

Thank you!

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Mike Lamb  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:37:18am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

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Putin: I did want Trump to win.

Trump: He meant to say did not want Trump to win.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:38:34am

re: #260 Sir John Barron

As optimistic as some are about November we have to remember the Dems are defending a lot more seats in the Senate, which makes it very difficult if not unlikely that we retake the Senate.

And the gerryrigged House won’t be a picnic either.

I’m hoping for the best but want to acknowledge the circumstances.

Nope, it won’t be easy. But Doug Jones’s seat wasn’t easy, Conor Lamb’s seat wasn’t easy, and VA wasn’t easy. And while VA came down to some shenanigans over a close district, the gains were substantial.

The fight doesn’t end on election day.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:39:22am

re: #262 Mike Lamb

Putin: I did want Trump to win.

Trump: He meant to say did not want Trump to win.

DJT: I was very tough on Putin in there

Press: what about Russian interference in election

DJT: what about Hillary’s server and emails?

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Mike Lamb  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:40:03am

re: #239 lawhawk

Trump’s disastrous trade war is already forcing GOP to send billions of taxpayer dollars to bail out the farmers who are already seeing serious harms.

Trump finds trade wars so easy to win - especially when it’s with other people’s money (and the harms going to everyone but him).

At same time, the GOP continues backing the fucker to the tune of nearly 90%. Rally around the derp, with a pocket full of dumbassery. There’s no other way to explain this - unless the number of people identifying as Republicans is shrinking, leaving only the hardcore extremists.

Don’t worry. The Stock Market is up. It’s the bank’s money we are playing with…

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:42:00am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

This is horrific

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Correction. 79.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:44:27am
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retired cynic  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:44:34am

The NonProfit Quarterly is pushing back against the forces in Congress that want to cut back or rescind the Johnson Amendment, so that religious organizations can take on full political roles in our system. Article recommended: nonprofitquarterly.org

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:48:28am
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Jay C  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:49:27am

re: #258 Targetpractice

That’s the closest to the mark: Some small part of his reptilian brain recognizes that he’s a plague rat and the GOP are suffering as a result. So in order to avoid being blamed for the party’s losses in November, he’s already starting the talking point that no matter what the polls say, the GOP’s losses in November are due to outside influences.

Yep: so that starting in January, he can tweet out crap 24/7 about a “Fake Congress” and its “illegitimate (non-)mandate” gotten only by “massive election fraud”, etc.

After all, this IS a President who opined, as a candidate, that the only “fair” election he’d recognize was one he won. Which comment, of course, was treated with the usual chuckling by the media: not so funny now.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:53:42am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t know if free tuition is the only or even necessarily best answer. It’s certainly part of it of course but I think Sanders has had it wrong selling it as the only educational point. Early education needs to be a focus. I’ve seen first hand how well my niece has developed after two years of pre-school.

Free college is ABSOLUTELY the best answer.

From the 1940’s through 1970’s, community colleges all over the country were free (2 years in most places; NYC had free 4-year schools. Mom and Dad’s undergrad degrees cost them a total of $0 tuition). At State Universities, a year’s tuition was approximately equal to one month of a factory worker’s wages — even at minimum wage, a full-time summer job and 10 hours a week during the school year was enough to cover that.

My parents grew up super-poor, I grew up with a swimming pool and piano lessons and ski trips. Because even though my parents were super-smart and worked really hard, that wouldn’t have gotten them very far had it not been for free college.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:04:13am

Here’s Cadet Bonespurs bopping along to Lee Greenwood.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:05:00am

Jesus

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:17am

re: #273 Stanley Sea

Even the trained good-guy-with-a-gun is a danger in chaos.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:19am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron haz a concern…

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Pre-loading his alibi for Blue Wave.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:34am

re: #272 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:36am

re: #271 sagehen

Free college is ABSOLUTELY the best answer.

From the 1940’s through 1970’s, community colleges all over the country were free (2 years in most places; NYC had free 4-year schools. Mom and Dad’s undergrad degrees cost them a total of $0 tuition). At State Universities, a year’s tuition was approximately equal to one month of a factory worker’s wages — even at minimum wage, a full-time summer job and 10 hours a week during the school year was enough to cover that.

My parents grew up super-poor, I grew up with a swimming pool and piano lessons and ski trips. Because even though my parents were super-smart and worked really hard, that wouldn’t have gotten them very far had it not been for free college.

And, like I said above, we either pay for it in advance, or we pay for it when it’s much more expensive later.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:09:52am

re: #251 Dr Lizardo

Trump is teeing up his claim that a Democratic victory in November (a blue wave) would be the result of Russian electoral interference, and such a victory, no matter how sizable or resounding, is therefore illegitimate.

Yep, this is the “the elections are rigged if I don’t win” trope all over again. Motherfucker.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:11:01am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

Yep, this is the “the elections are rigged if I don’t win” trope all over again. Motherfucker.

That’s exactly what it is. He said it before in 2016 and he’s saying it now and I guarantee you he’ll say it in 2020.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:12:00am

re: #273 Stanley Sea

Jesus

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Not to worry, I’m sure there’s a local/city/state law or judicial precedent that will ensure any attempt by the family to sue for compensation will either be stomped flat or pay out less than it will take to feed the meter outside the courthouse.

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Interesting Times  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:12:10am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

Yep, this is the “the elections are rigged if I don’t win” trope all over again. Motherfucker.

Hopefully enough of the electorate will say “fool me once…”

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:12:51am

re: #279 Dr Lizardo

That’s exactly what it is. He said it before in 2016 and he’s saying it now and I guarantee you he’ll say it in 2020.

Of course. When we get to summer 2020 and he’s behind in the polls, he’ll be insisting that he’s the victim of a grand conspiracy to prevent his reelection.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:13:25am

He think the F-35 is Wonder Woman’s invisible aircraft.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:14:56am

re: #282 Targetpractice

Of course. When we get to summer 2020 and he’s behind in the polls, he’ll be insisting that he’s the victim of a grand conspiracy to prevent his reelection.

That an unlawful, violent coup is being plotted against him, etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:16:48am
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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:16:51am

re: #283 The Vicious Babushka

He think the F-35 is Wonder Woman’s invisible aircraft.

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Yeah Donny, they said the same thing about the F-117 for years…until the Yugoslavian Army proved not only could you see it, you could shoot it down.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:17:04am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is terrible. Each report is worse than the last.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:17:10am

re: #282 Targetpractice

Of course. When we get to summer 2020 and he’s behind in the polls, he’ll be insisting that he’s the victim of a grand conspiracy to prevent his reelection.

And he will cancel the election.

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:17:28am
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:17:51am
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:18:07am
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:18:26am
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:18:40am
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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:18:56am
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Kilroy was here  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:19:08am

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:19:39am
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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:21:39am

re: #282 Targetpractice

Of course. When we get to summer 2020 and he’s behind in the polls, he’ll be insisting that he’s the victim of a grand conspiracy to prevent his reelection.

local.theonion.com
Republicans Blame Election Losses On Democrats
11/07/06 7:01pmS

WASHINGTON, DC—Republican officials are blaming tonight’s GOP losses on Democrats, who they claim have engaged in a wide variety of “aggressive, premeditated, anti-Republican campaigns” over the past six-to-18 months. “We have evidence of a well-organized, well-funded series of operations designed specifically to undermine our message, depict our past performance in a negative light, and drive Republicans out of office,” said Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman, who accused an organization called the Democratic National Committee of spearheading the nationwide effort. “There are reports of television spots, print ads, even volunteers going door-to-door encouraging citizens to vote against us.” Acknowledging that the “damage has already been done,” Mehlman is seeking a promise from Democrats to never again engage in similar practices.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:21:41am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Ah time for a blast from the past!

televisiontunes.com

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electrotek  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:22:24am
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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:26:57am

She’s exiting the fashion industry so she can spend more time… working for daddy and profiting from her position in a corrupt admin.

Narrator: She, like the rest of the Trump clan think they’re above the law.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:27:46am

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

Finally got a pic of the two doggies together. Dory exploring Rango’s bed. Rango suspect Dory wants his chewie. The Younger Boy referees.

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Cute pups both of them… nice touch on the jpg name

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Mike Lamb  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:28:18am

re: #273 Stanley Sea

Jesus

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I’m guessing we won’t hear anything from the NRA on this.

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wrenchwench  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:28:50am

re: #298 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ah time for a blast from the past!

televisiontunes.com

My favorite Sheriff! That seems longer than the TV version.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:29:31am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:31:14am

re: #300 lawhawk

She’s exiting the fashion industry so she can spend more time… working for daddy and profiting from her position in a corrupt admin.

Narrator: She, like the rest of the Trump clan think they’re above the law.

SEE HOW MUCH THE DRUMPS ARE SACRIFICING TO SAVE ARE COUNTRY!!!!

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:31:17am

re: #304 lawhawk

Did she fall off a balcony or put on the wrong “perfume”?

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:33:15am
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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:34:20am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

NBC News ✔
@NBCNews
In a tweet today, President Trump said he was “very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election.”

Sure Trump is concerned Russia and Putin will have an impact on the 2018 elections. He’s concerned they might not be able to have the same impact they had on 2016. So, they will be having to fight harder to pull it off.

You have to watch what he is saying. It is always creative and dodgy.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:34:29am

re: #300 lawhawk

She’s exiting the fashion industry so she can spend more time… working for daddy and profiting from her position in a corrupt admin.

Narrator: She, like the rest of the Trump clan think they’re above the law.

It would be a shame if they figured out it’s because they suck at business.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:35:59am
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:38:21am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:38:53am

re: #310 Kragar

fake polls.

/

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electrotek  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:39:45am

re: #304 lawhawk

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Damn, that’s sad.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:40:08am

re: #311 Kragar

Are you going to believe me or your own lying eyes?

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:41:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:42:57am

re: #311 Kragar

“Except if you watch my favorite show, Fox and Friends, who are just terrific.”

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jaunte  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:43:25am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:44:34am

re: #289 gocart mozart

There was a joke in there?

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:47:15am

re: #310 Kragar

Quinnipiac poll is bad:

•Trump approval- 38%
•73% say Russia was successful at Helsinki summit
•51% say Trump has weakened the US. 35% strengthened
•78% says Trump should defend NATO allies
•Putin 72% unfav. 63% in GOP
Just 27% proud Trump is POTUS

Loud, proud and dumb as fucking rocks.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:48:45am

re: #319 MsJ

Loud, proud and dumb as fucking rocks.

And all in the crazy group.

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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:48:45am

re: #300 lawhawk

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She’s exiting the fashion industry so she can spend more time… working for daddy and profiting from her position in a corrupt admin.

Narrator: She, like the rest of the Trump clan think they’re above the law.

In other words Doe Eyes’ crappy fashions are not selling because stores are pulling them because of her Daddy being toxic. Add in the fact that they are junk made in foreign sweatshops and she tried to say Trumps are all about ‘merica.

Those Trumps…so successful.

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makeitstop  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:49:31am

re: #310 Kragar

Just 27% proud Trump is POTUS

The Crazification Factor, to the decimal.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:51:21am

WHO YA GONNA BELIEVE, ME OR YOUR LYING EYES?

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:53:43am

re: #323 The Vicious Babushka

WHO YA GONNA BELIEVE, ME OR YOUR LYING EYES?

“So, you’re not president?”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:56:23am

He’s definitely seen the polls.

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:56:42am
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:57:31am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:58:04am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:58:48am

re: #323 The Vicious Babushka

WHO YA GONNA BELIEVE, ME OR YOUR LYING EYES?

So the jobs numbers are fake again?

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gocart mozart  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:00:48am
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ObserverArt  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:00:51am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

He’s definitely seen the polls.

When Trump says stick with me you know he is reeling. His arrogance would never allow that out unless he knows he is in trouble and isn’t being seen as the savior he thought he could be.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:02:29am

re: #331 ObserverArt

When Trump says stick with me you know he is reeling. His arrogance would never allow that out unless he knows he is in trouble and isn’t being seen as the savior he thought he could be.

Yep, I can smell the desperation all the way here in New England.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:04:40am

re: #164 MsJ

High school was hell for me because people made fun of my hair calling me “N-word head”. Unlike these incels, I grew up and got past that.

Honestly these losers should heed William Shatner’s advice and GET A LIFE!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:05:28am

re: #296 MsJ

Thank you. My thoughts exactly.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:06:49am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:07:13am

re: #331 ObserverArt

When Trump says stick with me you know he is reeling. His arrogance would never allow that out unless he knows he is in trouble and isn’t being seen as the savior he thought he could be.

“Stick with me”…..the same thing really as “trust me”.

The last cry of the con-man before the jig is up.

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electrotek  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:08:52am

re: #164 MsJ

There is a very sad psychopathy with these guys. This is from that article:

The saddest thing is that if “she” did beg for him, he would be on her in a second.

On one hand, I feel sorry for these guys. I know (as do many others) what it is like to be rejected for looks (I was a fat kid in school). But OTOH, this isn’t just a person being rejected for their looks, they are being rejected for themselves, their inner being. I managed to survive, my husband managed to survive, both of us intact emotionally and with a pretty good sense of self (sometimes too much so).

These guys don’t want to get laid, they want to own another person. This is one of them espousing what their ideal woman is.

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This isn’t normal, it’s psychotic. And it’s dangerous…THEY are dangerous. These are the kind of people who kidnap women and keep them as slaves (like those two guys did in CA some years ago); they shoot up strangers and are hailed by the rest of that group as heroes.

Let’s be real, Eliot Rodger wasn’t a bad looking dude at all. He could have CLEARLY been able to pull women easily given his stature and wealth (his dad was the assistant director for the Hunger Games franchise). But he had some deep-seated issues with himself based on the manifesto he wrote. He felt entitled to attain buxom blonde women and only him should get it.

For some, it’s hard to feel sorry for them when they had all the things that others wish they could have, yet still ventured into a dark path willingly.

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Mike Lamb  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:17:02am

re: #323 The Vicious Babushka

WHO YA GONNA BELIEVE, ME OR YOUR LYING EYES?

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It’s crazy that he said that out loud.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:20:26am

re: #184 Colère Tueur de Lapin

As Joe Bacon keeps iterating, the worship of ayn rand and von mises is a religion and are not a economic models. You must keep your religion pure, and as such cannot contaminate the whatever randians are and the Austrian economic ideals pure. No Socialism. Even though that type of purity will only result in pain for all but the oligarchs.

Precisely. It was the Powell Memorandum that urged the legitimization of Ayn Rand first through the Libertarian Party (financed by the Kochs) and eventually mainstreamed into all of society.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:20:51am

re: #338 Mike Lamb

It’s crazy that he said that out loud.

Seems par for the course for him; he has no filters and that is what he’s thinking. So, it came out his pie-hole.

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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:22:09am
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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:29:55am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:35:35am

re: #342 Kragar

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Almost every foreign leader they ever supported was a dictator.

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plansbandc  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:37:25am
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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:39:35am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:44:28am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:47:34am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:48:37am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:50:03am

This is the dumbest Tweet you will see all day. (In spoilers if you want to avoid dumbness)

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:52:26am

But I thought Facebook is censoring conservative media?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:54:20am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:54:34am

An open letter to an ‘unwashed conservative’(DKos)

Dear ‘unwashed conservative’ (whatever the hell that means),

I really appreciate your letter, and I’m not being sarcastic. The fact that you spent precious moments of your life not only reading what I wrote, but pondering it so deeply you felt the need to look me up and respond personally to it, is in itself a victory. I’ve been thinking about your response all week because in it, you’ve demonstrated the perfect example of conservative versus liberal thinking.

I agree with you on this: I am bitter and depressed. You’re totally right. I’m bitter because the unfunny joke called Donald fucking Trump is president. He is president despite the fact he lost the popular vote by three million. Can you fathom that? Three million people. That’s the entire state of Nevada. He’s president, in large part, because our election was hijacked by Russia in an unprecedented attack against our democracy, which is kind of a big deal to me. That makes me bitter. The fact that his administration has thus far worked to separate migrant children from their parents (who are fleeing asylum from war-town countries LEGALLY, by the way), vowed to roll back Roe v. Wade and take women’s freedom to choose (and even more bananas, threatened to prosecute women who have abortions), repeal Obamacare and eliminate protections for folks with pre-existing conditions, gut Medicaid, slash Social Security, roll back protections for endangered animals, and sell off federally protected lands to oil and gas companies, all while rewarding his own company and merry gang of grifters and giving tax breaks to billionaires … yes, it makes me depressed. It makes me very, very depressed.

You ask me, why not relax and enjoy the results of Trump’s presidency? I could sit here and debunk your points (yes, black unemployment is at an all-time low. But that trend started under Obama, so Trump can’t claim full credit for that one. Stock market’s a similar story; criminals account for only .6% of the migrants detained at the border, etc etc), but Google could do the job just as well as I can. Google is your friend. What’s more important here is to tell you that you’re right about one thing: I am actually doing fine under Trump’s presidency. Personally, I haven’t been affected. I have nothing to complain about. I have a job, a thriving family, amazing health insurance, even a retirement fund. I own a home in one of the most expensive regions in the country. I have a job I love. And the liberal rag I work for? We’ve never done so well as we’re doing under Trump as president. I love my life so much. I’m doing great.

Guess what, though? It’s not enough. It’s not. It shouldn’t be.

Your letter perfectly illustrates the blinders at work in the conservative mind. Pathologically shortsighted, you look at your life and think, “I’m doing well, so this is fine.” There’s no deeper thinking than that. Your vision doesn’t reach beyond your damn self.

[More at link]

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:54:49am

My surprise, let me show you it.
Who’s next after Muslims and Latin Americans?

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:55:16am
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lawhawk  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:56:49am

re: #349 The Vicious Babushka

Not the dumbest - that still goes to Trump toddler Wohl.

But it certainly does bring out the dumbest followers on Twitter, as witnessed by the idiocy that followed that tweet defending his bulkshit.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:57:18am
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terraincognita  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:00:25pm

re: #354 Charles Johnson

What Trump alleges and asserts without a scintilla of proof can be rejected and dismissed out of hand without as much as an afterthought.

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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:01:04pm

re: #356 Stanley Sea

Because patriots do their job for their country, not for comfort.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:01:23pm

re: #346 Charles Johnson

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:01:41pm
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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:03:20pm

re: #360 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Novichok victim’s son asks Trump to raise mother’s death with Putin(The Guardian)

Poor, naive kid.

It was the deep state using British inteligence, not Comrade Putin!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:04:50pm

re: #357 terraincognita

What Trump alleges and asserts without a scintilla of proof can be rejected and dismissed out of hand without as much as an afterthought.

By sane people, but his supporters have been raised on Conservative Christianity and Fox News. They insist on being lied to, and that’s a huge danger.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:06:31pm

Easy bet the brand is losing money

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Charles Johnson  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:07:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:13:12pm

uh huh….

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:13:23pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:14:07pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:15:31pm

re: #364 Charles Johnson

This is a threat right?
Alex Jones threatens Mueller: ‘You’re going to get it, or I’m going to die trying’

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:15:38pm

re: #366 Teukka

It’s not craziness, it’s malice.

They’re accusing people of the worst thing possible because they need to feel they are at once superior yet just justified in doing cruel and unethical things.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:15:49pm

re: #366 Teukka

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It’s the Satanic Panic 2.0, except this around, the Internet is here to help it spread like wildfire.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:16:38pm

re: #369 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s not craziness, it’s malice.

They’re accusing people of the worst thing possible because they need to feel they are at once superior yet just justified in doing cruel and unethical things.

They actually believe that. It’s malice on part of those who start the panics, but semi-craziness on part of the base :(

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:17:28pm

re: #296 MsJ

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:18:13pm

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

It’s the Satanic Panic 2.0, except this around, the Internet is here to help it spread like wildfire.

And like the Satanic Panic, it’s about people needing there to be Utter Depravity. As long as there’s an Ultimate Evil to be combated, smaller sins can be written off.

It’s porn. The people that cynically create this stuff are pornographers.

eta: this is the precise logic used to justify abuses of power within social conservative circles.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:19:53pm

re: #370 Dr Lizardo

It’s the Satanic Panic 2.0, except this around, the Internet is here to help it spread like wildfire.

Oh, you’re old enough to remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic? And people still sit in prison and have died in prison for crimes they didn’t commit, crimes which didn’t even happen.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:20:51pm

re: #374 Teukka

Oh, you’re old enough to remember the Satanic Ritual Abuse panic? And people still sit in prison and have died in prison for crimes they didn’t commit, crimes which didn’t even happen.

Yeah, I remember it. It was really big in the 1980’s - back then, it was mass media like Geraldo Rivera spreading it, and of course, some of the Evangelical churches were really pushing it too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:21:17pm

I am suspending my advocacy of gun control. The Russian incited enemy is openly threatening mass murder, and getting away with it because of compliant and traitorous officials and media. Their supreme and brutal arrogance is based on the absolute conviction that they alone have the ability to use force. They are wrong, and the more wrong they are, the more quickly this can settled when their hubris reaches its final stage.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:24:03pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One of Bevin’s great ideas…

Well they had to finance a tax cut for rich people somehow!/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:29:18pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2018 • 12:36:53pm

re: #376 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am suspending my advocacy of gun control. The Russian incited enemy is openly threatening mass murder, and getting away with it because of compliant and traitorous officials and media. Their supreme and brutal arrogance is based on the absolute conviction that they alone have the ability to use force. They are wrong, and the more wrong they are, the more quickly this can settled when their hubris reaches its final stage.

>I am suspending my advocacy of gun control

I’m not, but I will take a gun off of a fat-ass Conservative tough-guy and use it if they attempt the derpster revolution they crave to destroy America.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 24, 2018 • 1:18:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 24, 2018 • 1:47:47pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

MAGATs: “Boycott Billy Joel!”

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 24, 2018 • 1:58:00pm

re: #359 Teukka

They are more and more playing the pedophile card against their enemies, QAnon and Pizzagate weren’t the first and won’t be the last tall tales… Sickening and yeah, they are not right in the head…

1) Stochastic terrorism
2) Projection

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Jebediah, RBG  Jul 24, 2018 • 2:00:17pm

re: #113 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m pretty much amazed when these guys get back on their bikes after some crashes

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Get your bell rung hard enough and getting back on seems like a fine idea.
I fractured my neck on my mountain bike and wanted to walk to the ambulance waiting at the trailhead instead of getting on the back board, which was the EMTs’ preference.


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