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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:52:33pm

It’s going to take us decades to fix this fucking mess isn’t it?

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:53:53pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s going to take us decades to fix this fucking mess isn’t it?

*takes deep breath*
And that’s the best case scenario…

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:54:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:56:08pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:56:37pm

Along with other Democrats, I have been accused of wanting to turn the US into Venezuela.

I have a confession: IT’S TRUE!

Here is our program:

Replace the executive with a leader cult where loyalty to the leader and loyalty to the nation are one and the same.

Replace all competent executives with political cronies and hacks whose loyalty is unquestioned. After all, if they are smart enough to suck up to power, they are smart enough to, say, run an oil company.

Demonize and belittle the free press, with a little direct action against the real hard cases, so they won’t report inconvenient facts, or will be ignored if they do.

Create our own armed militia of dupes and fanatics in case Constitutional forces decide not to enforce our edicts.

Oh.
Wait.

Looks like the Republicans have beaten us to it. Never mind.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:56:41pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2018 • 8:59:37pm

re: #2 Teukka

*takes deep breath*
And that’s the best case scenario…

Dammit. 58 years old and I really want to piss on his grave and see us past all this.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:00:55pm
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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:02:34pm

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

Dammit. 58 years old and I really want to piss on his grave and see us past all this.

That would be an awful waste of a nutrient solution, sir…

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:03:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:05:55pm

re: #10 Kragar

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Oh, I remember when Mom bought the Chicago Tribune issue which had ALL of the Nixon tape transcripts. And she was in China Syndrome meltdown mode about 1/4 of the way in…

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:09:11pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:14:02pm
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Belafon  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:15:06pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

But oh babe, I really wish you would not cry
I only ever told you one lie
When it could have been a thousand
It might as well have been a thousand

Mumford and Sons, Tompkins Square Park

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:16:57pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:16:58pm

When you are a political activist, you do get accustomed to a certain amount of failure. Little wins, small losses sometimes. A lot of not much at all right? Long story (stories) short my side lost a couple big ones. I mean at the time it hurt. This time just feels harder, more important. I say that with reluctance as a guy just a bit too young to have been sent to Vietnam combat by way of a draft. That fight was life and death. We are on that precipice.

Stop this guy before he crashes us all.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:19:53pm

So, not as bad as some mafia tapes. Low bar.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:21:53pm
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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:23:41pm

re: #15 Kragar

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

Is Rudy really this stupid? I thought he was supposed to be some hot shot prosecutor.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:25:04pm

re: #19 MsJ

Is Rudy really this stupid? I thought he was supposed to be some hot shot prosecutor.

Yeah he is pretty damn stupid.
Seems to be getting more stupid each week too.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:26:07pm

re: #20 JordanRules

Yeah he is pretty damn stupid.
Seems to be getting more stupid each week too.

Cheap-labor conservatism is one helluva drug…

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:27:01pm

re: #20 JordanRules

Yeah he is pretty damn stupid.
Seems to be getting more stupid each week too.

I’m lost. Is there any possible end game with what he’s saying? Because to me it seems he steps in a giant pile of shit every time he opens his yap.

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Kragar  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:28:12pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:32:16pm

re: #22 MsJ

I’m lost. Is there any possible end game with what he’s saying? Because to me it seems he steps in a giant pile of shit every time he opens his yap.

He gets on the tele and defends Trump no matter how ridiculous. I think thats most of it.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:32:52pm

re: #24 JordanRules

He gets on the tele and defends Trump no matter how ridiculous. I think thats most of it.

Playing for time rather than doing anything else?

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plansbandc  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:38:55pm

I consider Maggie and other members of the Trump blowing press to be utterly complicit in our march to fascism. If there are any historians left to record what happens to us, she will be judged harshly. I despise her as much as anyone in the orange bag’s administration.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:39:05pm

Fascinating thread. FWIW.

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MsJ  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:42:03pm
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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:42:29pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s going to take us decades to fix this fucking mess isn’t it?

It’s going to take decades to uncover all the shit they’ve pulled in the last 600 days.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:43:19pm

re: #26 plansbandc

Maggie don’t give a fuck. She’s going to make a fortune with her book about the Agolf Twitler administration. In a few years she’ll be sitting on an island earning 20%.

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plansbandc  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:44:28pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

Honestly, I don’t think this ever gets fixed. I think we will split into two countries. Probably not in my lifetime, but not in the too distant future.

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BigPapa  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:44:29pm

Schrodinger’s Douchebag: Someone who decides whether or not they were joking based on the reaction they get.

Stole from friend whole stole.

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plansbandc  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:45:05pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

Of course she doesn’t. She’s garbage like her orange king.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:46:11pm

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

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So, not as bad as some mafia tapes. Low bar.

Yeah but in this case the witness is still alive. The tapes are just the icing on trumpshit cake.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:46:12pm

Sometimes I wish I was a psychopath. I would be rich, I would be powerful.

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Skip Intro  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:49:39pm

And by tomorrow afternoon there will be a new Trump scandal/tweet/policy that moves this to the back pages.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:50:49pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:51:20pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

And by tomorrow afternoon there will be a new Trump scandal/tweet/policy that moves this to the back pages.

By tomorrow Tehran may be vaporized.

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Teukka  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:51:51pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

And by tomorrow afternoon there will be a new Trump scandal/tweet/policy that moves this to the back pages.

re: #38 teleskiguy

By tomorrow Tehran may be vaporized.

I was also thinking “Global Thermonuclear War” o.o

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:52:46pm

Yup. Not a lot of hope for the well-being of good people out there.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:56:11pm

re: #31 plansbandc

Honestly, I don’t think this ever gets fixed. I think we will split into two countries. Probably not in my lifetime, but not in the too distant future.

I’m afraid we’re going to break into a dozen pieces after the rest of the world intervenes by dumping the dollar and Treasury securities.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:58:20pm

Maybe I’m stressed because of wildfires and intermittent employment. Still, I’ve about fucking had it with the barrage of fuckery in our society. Bigotry is accepted, even praised. Women’s rights are going the way of the 19th century. Drilling and mining might take place in Canyonlands National Park this time next year. Hell, when does Islam get outlawed? Not feeling too good myself.

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freetoken  Jul 24, 2018 • 9:59:50pm

re: #36 Skip Intro

And by tomorrow afternoon there will be a new Trump scandal/tweet/policy that moves this to the back pages.

Just one?

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:02:17pm

Fully 40% of all murders in the United States go unsolved.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:35pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:51pm

Texas has the highest maternal mortality rate in the developed world.

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BigPapa  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:06:56pm

re: #42 teleskiguy

Feel ya bro. I don’t have a fire close and can’t imagine but since 11/9 and lava flowing it’s been a major suck fest. A recent UGS report estimates the lava could be flowing for months or even years. The specter of long economic impact beyond the homes and businesses lost already has been in the back of my mind.

But I think Orange is going to down hard. And when he does, it will be like 2 Superb Owls, 2 World Series, 3 NBA titles, and 1.5 Olympics when it all comes down.

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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:07:53pm

So if I’m understanding the sequence of events right, it went:

- Existence of Cohen-Trump tapes made public
- Trump lawyers choose not to assert attorney-client privilege on said tapes
- Days later, snippets of tape where Donny demands payoff be made in cash are made public
- The White House (i.e. Rudy) rushes to release an “official” transcript of the tape
- Cohen’s lawyer responds to the WH transcript by releasing the actual tape to CNN
- Rudy immediately rushes to the press to assert the transcript is authentic, setting up a very public squabble over whether or not Cohen’s counsel is a liar

Am I really witnessing this level of stupidity?

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:08:38pm

Just over 21,000 people killed themselves with a gun in 2013 in the United States. That’s the last year reliable statistics are available. The number is most likely much higher in 2017.

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BigPapa  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:10:04pm

I’ve downloaded the Steele Dossier, Nunes Memo, and Page’s FISA app. Lots of stuff but easy to run through as it’s large font with some redundancy. The hardest part is tracking the timing and nuance amidst the signal to noise ratio.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:13:45pm
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freetoken  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:14:12pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

Am I really witnessing this level of stupidity?

It’s all a Python skit.

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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:17:17pm

re: #11 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh, I remember when Mom bought the Chicago Tribune issue which had ALL of the Nixon tape transcripts. And she was in China Syndrome meltdown mode about 1/4 of the way in…

My father was in tears — he loved Nixon so much, didn’t believe any of the analysis or speculation or even most of the testimony under oath… but the tapes, that he believed. Broke his heart.

My immigrant grandparents were awestruck that a bad president could be removed from office with no bloodshed.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:19:13pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:20:20pm

My attempt at humor with the music lyrics and Lumpy looking all disappointed and shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:21:29pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Just over 21,000 people killed themselves with a gun in 2013 in the United States. That’s the last year reliable statistics are available. The number is most likely much higher in 2017.

Let me guess: The 5 year gap in reporting is due to the NRA.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:22:59pm

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

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So, not as bad as some mafia tapes. Low bar.

Absolutely hilarious and yet tragic that the President’s own attorney is comparing him to the Mafia.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:24:05pm

re: #57 Big Beautiful Door

Absolutely hilarious and yet tragic that the President’s own attorney is comparing him to the Mafia.

Donny Twoscoops has been involved with the Mob for decades. Rudy is just admitting to it.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:24:44pm

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me guess: The 5 year gap in reporting is due to the NRA.

The NRA has effectively blocked any and all data retrieval of gun violence by the CDC for over 20 years.

More: latimes.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:30:30pm
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Targetpractice  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:34:35pm

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

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Another day, another decision to break with years/decades of cooperation with the press for no other reason than rank pettiness.

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teleskiguy  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:37:37pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

Another day, another decision to break with years/decades of cooperation with the press for no other reason than rank pettiness.

It’s more than that. He’s had face to face meetings with Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un. He got ideas from them. He *wants* to run the joint dictatorial style.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:41:40pm
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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:49:36pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:50:21pm

Scored another “holy grail” model kit, a ship this time.

Revell 1/96 scale HMS Beagle.

Yep, Darwin’s survey ship. This is a fair size model and allegedly has good detailing. It is also not too advanced or complicated a kit, which suits my less-than-advanced sailing ship skills perfectly.
If I can get it built before my own evolution completes itself, I intend to put in a place of honor to piss off visiting creationists.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:50:58pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:52:53pm

Another Trump voter who didn’t realize that when Trump promised to deport all unauthorized immigrants, he meant her daughter-in-law too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:53:39pm

I used to rail against the media, and still do from time to time, BUT:
-I am not President
-I have not incited mobs to threaten and assault them.

It’s scary how fast we have seemingly normalized this extremely dangerous behavior from the POTUS.

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JordanRules  Jul 24, 2018 • 10:55:41pm
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sagehen  Jul 24, 2018 • 11:21:13pm

re: #67 Big Beautiful Door

Another Trump voter who didn’t realize that when Trump promised to deport all unauthorized immigrants, he meant her daughter-in-law too.

The comment section on that article was full of “if she was here that long why didn’t she just fill out the paperwork to become a citizen…”

Obviously these people have NO IDEA how our immigration system works. Can’t be done.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 25, 2018 • 2:18:05am

re: #67 Big Beautiful Door

Another Trump voter who didn’t realize that when Trump promised to deport all unauthorized immigrants, he meant her daughter-in-law too.

Oh well.


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