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freetoken  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:27:16am

The uncomfortable reality of what unfettered ethno-nationalism will bring creeps slowly into the light:

Sterling shrinks as Bank of England claims “uncomfortably high” likelihood of no-deal Brexit

[…]

The Bank of England Governor said financial institutions have been “stockpiling” to withstand a potential shock.

Asked if a no-deal scenario would be a disaster, Mr Carney said: “It is highly undesirable. The possibility of a no-deal is uncomfortably high at this point.”

Mr Carney also claimed our economy is 2% smaller than it would have been if Remain had won the 2016 referendum.

His controversial comments triggered a 0.3% fall for the pound, to $1.2975.

[…]

Modern economies are built on maximizing trade.

Something about which the know-nothing Brexiteers (and Trumpers) are oblivious.

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Skip Intro  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:28:38am

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:31:31am
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sagehen  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:32:07am

Their ideas about what’s “reasonable” and “traditional” about trade, and how the US should be treated by other nations (that they should be dependent on keeping us happy), come from the 1950’s.

A time when most of the world was rubble and/or construction sites, and we were the only industrialized nation on the planet. When they really were dependent on our goodwill.

Trumpers and Brexiters have trouble with the concept of “that was then and this is now.”

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:32:33am
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freetoken  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:33:48am

re: #3 JordanRules

Used one a couple of times.

But that picture - how is it this couple is so happy looking at a few lines of text on a screen? And the young guy - he’d only have that smile if Penthouse was available on the TRS-80.

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Teukka  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:34:13am

re: #5 JordanRules

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:36:37am

re: #6 freetoken

Used one a couple of times.

But that picture - how is it this couple is so happy looking at a few lines of text on a screen? And the young guy - he’d only have that smile if Penthouse was available on the TRS-80.

ASCII porn.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:36:43am

They may end up with a refugee crisis…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:37:03am

re: #1 freetoken

The uncomfortable reality of what unfettered ethno-nationalism will bring creeps slowly into the light:

Sterling shrinks as Bank of England claims “uncomfortably high” likelihood of no-deal Brexit

Modern economies are built on maximizing trade.

Something about which the know-nothing Brexiteers (and Trumpers) are oblivious.

Leftists trade. Right-wingers try to conquer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:38:28am
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:41:08am

re: #4 sagehen

Trumpers and Brexiters have trouble with the concept of “that was then and this is now.”

That was then and soon it will be again! MAGA!

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freetoken  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:42:50am

After Heat Wave, a Glaciated Swedish Peak Is No Longer Nation’s Tallest

A record-setting European heat wave has so rapidly melted the glacier atop Sweden’s highest mountain that the peak has now become the country’s second-tallest mountain, scientists say.

The northern, glaciated peak of Kebnekaise Mountain, which just a few years ago was 6,909 feet tall, lost 13 feet of ice and snow from July 2 to July 31, Swedish scientists report. That ice loss was enough to lower the elevation of the north peak below the neighboring, non-glaciated southern peak on Kebnekaise, which is now the nation’s tallest, at 6,870 feet.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:42:51am

re: #12 Romantic Heretic

That was then and soon it will be again! MAGA!

Yeah…the key will be again reducing parts of the world to rubble.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:44:05am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:44:11am

re: #14 ObserverArt

Yeah…the key will be again reducing parts of the world to rubble.

It is a proven solution.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:46:10am

from downstairs “what was manafort thinking”?

of course i have no idea

the tax returns in the case go back (at least) to 2008. i think it predates thinking trump will get me out of it

so im gonna recklessly and idly speculate it was a combination of very mundane things:

- no one’s ever gonna find out. if i dont report it and don’t disclose foreign accounts who’s ever gonna know?
- if there’s ever an audit, we’ll fight, drag it out, probably lose, then negotiate to pay reduced tax, penalties and interest
- everyone lies and / or cheats on their taxes one way or another (i’ll just keep up with traffic in the left lane)

all in all not very clever

he left a paper trail because hubris and he’s an idiot, not because he’s “innocent/honest”

also im not sure the preparer is out of the woods. for him its more than just havnig a paper trail as “proof”.
you can’t nod nod wink wink your way into *plausable* deniability.

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:46:38am
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:47:00am

re: #16 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It is a proven solution.

Looking at Freetoken’s post at #13,
I’m reminded Mother Nature may bring the rubble this time.

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:47:18am

re: #18 Kragar

You know, those lynchings where they boo you and then you go home and have yourself a good cry…

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:47:23am

re: #18 Kragar

And yet, Danuts, you’re still alive.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:48:29am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:48:36am
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:49:12am

re: #22 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Someone should send a picture of one of those lynching postcards to her and ask her which one she was.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:49:18am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:49:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:50:40am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:51:13am

re: #18 Kragar

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You weren’t killed. Hell you weren’t even out on trial. You were held accountable. Grow the fuck up and stop acting like the NRA are victims you witch.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:51:24am
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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:52:09am

re: #18 Kragar

Dana Loesch says she was the victim of a “public lynching” at CNN’s post-Parkland gun violence town hall

there’s a key word in there

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:52:16am

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Ben Garrison must have taken a break from his adoring Trump cartoons.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:53:12am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:55:00am

re: #24 Belafon

Someone should send a picture of one of those lynching postcards to her and ask her which one she was.

Send her a picture of Emmett Till in his casket, an event that happened in her parents lifetime. She’s an insensitive moron who can’t handle any criticism of all of guns and the gun lobby. Gun control proponents get far worse treatment including what Dana’s scumbag organization does.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:56:00am

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

There’s nothing at all racist about portraying minorities as something less than human.
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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:56:10am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:58:12am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

You weren’t killed. Hell you weren’t even out on trial. You were held accountable. Grow the fuck up and stop acting like the NRA are victims you witch.

I think she thinks of herself as a witch. She’s even a witch in her lies.

Then she said the town-hall crowd verbally attacked her and rushed the stage after Wednesday’s forum, which was broadcast live on CNN. “There were people rushing the stage and screaming, ‘Burn her,’” she told the conservative crowd.

miaminewtimes.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:59:23am

re: #36 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think she thinks of herself as a witch. She’s even a witch in her lies.

miaminewtimes.com

She’s such a professional victim. Gun control advocates have to deal with literal threats and armdd thugs showing up at their events. Dana deserves to feel misery.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2018 • 11:59:50am

Where DT and the constant drama leaves me…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:01:09pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

She’s such a professional victim. Gun control advocates have to deal with literal threats and armdd thugs showing up at their events. Dana deserves to feel misery.

She was doing her duty of convincing a wingnut crowd that normal people are out to get them, presumably to goad them into murder sprees that they’ll justify by claiming to have been attacked themselves.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:01:15pm

LOL!!

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:02:20pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:03:52pm

Mmhmm… I’m a little skeptical, but definitely giddy at the thought of it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:03:59pm

Well, here’s the problem

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:07:07pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It’s so much more complicated than that and when folks fall for the non-voting cliches it just gives way too many people an opportunity to punch down.

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:08:04pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:08:52pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:10:25pm

re: #42 JordanRules

Mmhmm… I’m a little skeptical, but definitely giddy at the thought of it.

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NRA: “Russia, if you can hear us. Please release more funds so we can continue to do our your very important political activism and messaging”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:10:28pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:10:53pm
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:12:11pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I doubt it.

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Nyet  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:18:00pm

Repimping the tweet from earlier.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:18:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:19:51pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:20:47pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:21:00pm

She’s back…and Donny is not going to be happy.

Only the best!

Business Insider - ‘Donald rambled. He spoke gibberish’: Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault questions Trump’s mental health in upcoming book

• Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault Newman suggested President Donald Trump may be experiencing a mental illness in her upcoming book, “Unhinged: An Insider’s Account of the Trump White House.”

• In an excerpt from her book that was obtained by The Daily Mail , Manigault wrote that “something real and serious was going on in Donald’s brain.”

• Manigault claims that despite the White House’s efforts to help Trump rehearse for an interview, he ended up making “erratic and contradictory” remarks instead.

Former White House official Omarosa Manigault Newman suggested President Donald Trump may be experiencing some type of mental disorder in her upcoming book, “Unhinged: An Insider’s Account of the Trump White House.”

It was during an interview in May, between Trump and NBC News host Lester Holt, that she “knew something wasn’t right,” according to an excerpt from her book that was obtained by The Daily Mail .

“While watching the interview I realized that something real and serious was going on in Donald’s brain,” Manigault wrote, referring to the NBC News interview. “His mental decline could not be denied.”

“Throughout this erratic and contradictory interview, I kept thinking, ‘Oh no! Oh no! This is bad!,’” Manigault said.

“Donald rambled. He spoke gibberish,” she added. “He contradicted himself from one sentence to the next.”

During the interview, Trump made several disparaging remarks against the former FBI director James Comey and claimed that he had the Russia investigation in mind when he considered firing Comey in May 2017.

The remarks appeared to conflict with the White House’s claim that Comey’s firing was predicated on the recommendation of deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein and the FBI’s handling of its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server.

Manigault said in her book that the White House helped Trump rehearse the talking point for several days: “Hope [Hicks, the former communications director] had gone over the briefing with him a dozen times hitting the key point that he had fired Comey based on the recommendation by the DOJ which the vice president and other surrogates had been reinforcing for days.”

…a bit more at link.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:21:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:22:28pm

re: #56 JordanRules

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Someone needs to kick Bannon’s Ass.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:25:26pm

re: #52 JordanRules

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This seems to go against the Washington Post reporting shown in the tweet just above in Dirt Dart’s #43.

That’s our media. Everyone has their take…the problem is always who to believe about anything.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:25:35pm

Bannon is basically spreading fascism in the worst possible places.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:27:21pm

re: #8 Belafon

ASCII porn.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:27:59pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:28:52pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:31:45pm

re: #55 ObserverArt

She’s back…and Donny is not going to be happy.

Only the best!

Business Insider - ‘Donald rambled. He spoke gibberish’: Former White House staffer Omarosa Manigault questions Trump’s mental health in upcoming book

…a bit more at link.

She’s not someone I trust, but it does make sense that Trump was told to tell the cover-story, and just blurted out that he was blocking an investigation because his brain is full of lesions.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:32:21pm

re: #36 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think she thinks of herself as a witch. She’s even a witch in her lies.

miaminewtimes.com

Then she said the town-hall crowd verbally attacked her and rushed the stage after Wednesday’s forum, which was broadcast live on CNN. “There were people rushing the stage and screaming, ‘Burn her,’” she told the conservative crowd.

any of this caught on camera - it was a televised event
or someone’s phone
or….anything?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:33:29pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:33:41pm

re: #56 JordanRules

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:34:48pm

re: #42 JordanRules

Mmhmm… I’m a little skeptical, but definitely giddy at the thought of it.

The NRA warns that it’s in grave financial jeopardy, according to a recent court filing obtained by Rolling Stone, and that it could soon “be unable to exist… or pursue its advocacy mission.”

(tax exempt) free enterprise is a pesky thing

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:35:13pm

re: #64 dangerman

any of this caught on camera - it was a televised event
or someone’s phone
or….anything?

Exactly. If people really were doing that, I’m sure there would have been someone there telling people to check to see if she weighs the same as a duck.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:36:12pm

re: #64 dangerman

any of this caught on camera - it was a televised event
or someone’s phone
or….anything?

The lack of the event was caught on multiple cameras. She just made it up to feed to the poor persecuted right-wing extremists that pay her to feed their fantasies.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:36:30pm

So Bannon wants to destabilize the Balkans again. Someone should really make that prick’s life miserable.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:36:33pm

re: #68 Belafon

Exactly. If people really were doing that, I’m sure there would have been someone there telling people to check to see if she weighs the same as a duck.

Of course. She’s full of it. She’s already been rebuffed plenty about it. CNN even made a statement about her BS after the event.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:36:36pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Find me the person running on free college, universal health care, reparations to black and indigenous, 90% taxation on millionaires and maybe you’ll start seeing people vote more.

damn this chinese food menu

why is there no thai restaurant around here?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:38:40pm

re: #61 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:38:48pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:40:42pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

So Bannon wants to destabilize the Balkans again. Someone should really make that prick’s life miserable.

America produces a lot of monsters. We’re a breeding ground for cults and other extremists, because we’re not constitutionally allowed to even limit disinformation.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:40:54pm

re: #74 Kragar

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Says a Jewish Puerto Rican on a network owned by an Aussie. Dumbass.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:41:28pm
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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:41:34pm

re: #68 Belafon

Exactly. If people really were doing that, I’m sure there would have been someone there telling people to check to see if she weighs the same as a duck.

i was going with it would have been plastered over every possible interweb long ago

or the duck thing. that works too

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:44:04pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:47:20pm

re: #3 JordanRules

Those were what we had in the Computer Room in my high school. I got a COCO for at home. Those early home computers set the course of my career.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:48:43pm

re: #43 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Looked at Ms Palmer’s stuff over at her Berkley page as well as her twitter feed. There is a reason why I have little patience with sociology.

Ongoing colonization of indigenous peoples (and she means right here)?

That’s one thing if you want to talk about settlers on the West Bank. It’s something else entirely when you try to say America is a colonial state that is still colonizing indigenous people in the present day. Talk about cultural appropriation all you like, but this is where academia really does jump off the rails and make an easy target for National Review and Ben Shapiro.

I should also note that this kind of framing makes it far easier for race baiting conservatives like Orban in Europe to claim that the dusky hoards are “colonizing” them.

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nines09  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:50:15pm

Just driving by…………………………………………………love
She didn’t play this last night.
I grew up in Philly and it was the shore.
Down the shore.
Down.
The.
Shore.
Yep.
A wondrous place as a young man.
She nails it.
Love Beth.

Beth Hart - “Coca Cola” live @ Wytwórnia Łódź Poland 2017

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:51:03pm
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:52:16pm

re: #81 Scottish Dragon

She seems to me like one of those people I was talking about last night, that might seem to be on your side, but all she’s doing is dividing Democrats.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:52:40pm

re: #83 Kragar

Going big time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:53:02pm

re: #70 HappyWarrior

So Bannon wants to destabilize the Balkans again. Someone should really make that prick’s life miserable.

Nobody is better at that than himself I suspect.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:53:54pm

re: #86 Unshaken Defiance

Nobody is better at that than himself I suspect.

You don’t wind up with that homeless look by being a well-adjusted person.

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lawhawk  Aug 3, 2018 • 12:55:26pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s the goddamned bugs from Klendathu.

/would you like to know more.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:00:24pm

re: #88 lawhawk

It’s the goddamned bugs from Klendathu.

/would you like to know more.

Klendathu was a TRS-80 COCO game based on the invasion from Starship Troopers.
I’ve never been able to find a copy to play with an emulator, and my tape of the game is long gone.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:02:48pm

re: #60 Eventual Carrion

XXX

Hey! Put that behind a private tag…

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:03:42pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

First porn that ever got past the firewall at my office ///

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:05:14pm
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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:05:16pm

re: #89 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Klendathu was a TRS-80 COCO game based on the invasion from Starship Troopers.
I’ve never been able to find a copy to play with an emulator, and my tape of the game is long gone.

I still have the old Avalon Hill tactical boardgame of Sarship Troopers

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:05:49pm

re: #81 Scottish Dragon

Looked at Ms Palmer’s stuff over at her Berkley page as well as her twitter feed. There is a reason why I have little patience with sociology.

Ongoing colonization of indigenous peoples (and she means right here)?

That’s one thing if you want to talk about settlers on the West bank. It’s something else entirely when you try to say America is a colonial state that is still colonizing indigenous people in the present day. Talk about cultural appropriation all you like, but this is where academia really does jump off the rails and make an easy target for National Review and Ben Shapiro.

What year did settler colonialism in the U.S. end?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:07:17pm

re: #81 Scottish Dragon

Looked at Ms Palmer’s stuff over at her Berkley page as well as her twitter feed. There is a reason why I have little patience with sociology.

Ongoing colonization of indigenous peoples (and she means right here)?

We’re still in the process of exterminating the natives.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:07:22pm

re: #42 JordanRules

Mmhmm… I’m a little skeptical, but definitely giddy at the thought of it.

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It’s a trick to get the rubes to liquidate their life savings to save their beloved NRA because ‘Merica.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:07:32pm

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:09:18pm

re: #92 Kragar

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Yeah gays but at least he won’t throw you off buildings.//

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gwangung  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:10:47pm

re: #95 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We’re still in the process of exterminating the natives.

Both on the continent and various island around the world, I would say….

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Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:14:06pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

This is a great, bizarre story.

Mom & Dad went a little crazy in 1985.

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gocart mozart  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:14:35pm
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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:15:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:17:05pm

re: #102 Kragar

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Old?

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:19:03pm

re: #92 Kragar

It’s just as likely that God is trying to get the churches that shun gays.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:20:11pm

re: #94 JordanRules

What year did settler colonialism in the U.S. end?

I think you would have to see it as a period where it is in decline. When you see Arizona become a state in 1912 I think, that might be a hard end to physical colonization.

I’m sure she means the word in some other sense of cultural supremacy. I saw one post on her twitter feed advocating that native Americans should learn their tribal languages or white people will do it for them, which is risible nonsense. It’s hard enough trying to teach white American students basic English.

So Eurocentric culture is ‘colonizing’ native indigenous cultures and I have no damned clue how you stop cultures from appropriating and trading and commercializing stuff from one another or why you should try to stop it. I really don’t get this. Cultures that remain in contact will make irrevocable changes on each other with respect to language, durable goods, religious beliefs, mores and food.

The appropriation here is taking a word…colonization…and misusing it in a way to set an inflammatory definition on unavoidable human contact. The fact that Europeans stole land and lives from American indigenous people is crime enough. You will get no argument from me if you want to talk about racial disparities in law enforcement, education and public health. Those things are not ‘colonization’ however.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:20:16pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Old?

Yes and no.

“Trump’s revelation to Hannity indicates that other anthrax scares had occurred targeting the Trump family besides a previously reported incident in February in which Donald Trump Jr.’s wife Vanessa Trump opened an envelope containing white powder.”

I’m not sure what his comments indicate since he’s a known liar and scammer too.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:21:54pm

re: #97 Stanley Sea

Dear David Farhenthold,

I like your political coverage. Stick to that.

Art is not your thing.

Signed,

Me

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Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:24:45pm

re: #107 ObserverArt

Dear David Farhenthold,

I like your political coverage. Stick to that.

Art is not your thing.

Signed,

Me

I love him. He’s so corny.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:26:14pm

re: #106 JordanRules

Yes and no.

“Trump’s revelation to Hannity indicates that other anthrax scares had occurred targeting the Trump family besides a previously reported incident in February in which Donald Trump Jr.’s wife Vanessa Trump opened an envelope containing white powder.”

I’m not sure what his comments indicate since he’s a known liar and scammer too.

Was being a snartass and implying Trump is still coked up.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:29:37pm

re: #101 gocart mozart

LOL Fear of a Black Hat is one of the most criminally underrated films ever.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:30:00pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

I love him. He’s so corny.

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Also it is a shit painting.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:34:32pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

I love him. He’s so corny.

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I like him too. But I am also an artist, and I happen to like that painting.

He is of course allowed to his opinion.

But it is pretty hard to label a painting by a world famous artist like De Kooning as crap when it has a value of many millions. I’d have said “not my style” or something like that.

I am also willing to admit many others probably think it is crap too. Abstraction art brings that out of a lot of people. They just don’t see or understand it.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:35:27pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Also it is a shit painting.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:35:51pm

I tried painting a bit. Not a great idea the first bedroom wall was an unintentional abstract. /

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:35:59pm

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

I like my paintings to actually looks like something.

Abstractionists can fuck right off.

There. I said it.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:36:24pm

re: #105 Scottish Dragon

Maybe we can find a different word for a post-colonial period and maybe we should at least get input from the First Nation folks on what it should be called. But let’s also not forgot that land is indeed still getting snatched and abused.

There is so much to say about the appropriation debate and so much to keep learning about it.

“and commercializing stuff from one another or why you should try to stop it. I really don’t get this”

But to address that one quoted part… it’s incredibly exploitive and goes hand in hand with wanting the culture but not the people. Black folks should have been able to profit off their art for generations but it wasn’t acceptable coming from them so Elvis had to do it. This is part of the supremacist system and it doesn’t just fix itself. It has to be affirmative and intentional. Imagine the wealth that could have been built if this shit weren’t built into the system.
I see soooo much AAVE and POC cultural elements used earnestly by the alt-right Nazis so it’s not like exposure thru the systems that grant them power made them any less fascist. Sharing is not always caring.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:37:32pm

re: #115 Kragar

I like my paintings to actually looks like something.

Abstractionists can fuck right off.

There. I said it.

Elvis on black velvet kind of guy are you?

There I said it. : )

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:37:33pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

Was being a snartass and implying Trump is still coked up.

Oh I thought you were wondering if it was a repeat of the February story. GOL

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:38:24pm

re: #93 Scottish Dragon

I still have the old Avalon Hill tactical boardgame of Sarship Troopers

I played that game a lot when I was in college along with a lot of other Avalon Hill games!

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Kragar  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:39:02pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

Elvis on black velvet kind of guy are you?

There I said it. : )

I’ve got one painting in my house.

“Last Night of the War”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:42:06pm

re: #113 ObserverArt

Kind of brilliant how they hid it behind the bedroom door - only could see when door closed.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:43:43pm
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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:44:19pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

Elvis on black velvet kind of guy are you?

There I said it. : )

Dogs playing poker is high art.

/

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:46:45pm

*sigh* Goofy WaPo headline.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:47:41pm

re: #116 JordanRules

Still not colonization though. You end with unsolvable arguments over who can decide what is appropriation and is there really somebody who can ‘give permission’ for a certain food or hair style or clothing pattern to be used and who decides who that is in the first place…

That is how you end up with a teen girl getting a twitter mob on her last May because she bought a vintage dress from a shop for prom.

washingtonpost.com

There is no limiting principle, no recognized definitions or boundaries and no real way to solve any disagreement since there is no shared and understood definition.

I am open to other interpretation here since I readily admit sociology is something of an annoyance and blind spot to me.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:48:08pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:49:47pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:49:58pm

re: #121 Stanley Sea

Kind of brilliant how they hid it behind the bedroom door - only could see when door closed.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:50:06pm

re: #120 Kragar

I’ve got one painting in my house.

“Last Night of the War”

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Nice.

I like all kinds of painting styles.

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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:52:04pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

Nice.

I like all kinds of painting styles.

I can do brush AND roller. I used to be able to do windows without any masking tape. Haven’t tried it lately.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:52:04pm

re: #129 ObserverArt

Nice.

I like all kinds of painting styles.

I like pre Raphaelite.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:52:47pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

Elvis on black velvet kind of guy are you?

There I said it. : )

poker dogs

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:54:50pm

re: #124 JordanRules

*sigh* Goofy WaPo headline.

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Has all the internet snark and old flame wars, one-upping, getting the last word, etc. become the cause for this kind of writing? It really is an illogical take, but there it is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:54:53pm

re: #124 JordanRules

*sigh* Goofy WaPo headline.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:57:51pm

re: #6 freetoken

Used one a couple of times.

But that picture - how is it this couple is so happy looking at a few lines of text on a screen? And the young guy - he’d only have that smile if Penthouse was available on the TRS-80.

I had a TRS-80 Model 3. Good little computer; Z80 chip, 16k OS with BASIC parser; 64k addressable memory. Word processor; compiler to code in assembly. 1500 baud tape backup; I didn’t have a disc-drive. Decent games. No color.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:59:15pm

re: #125 Scottish Dragon

Still not colonization though. You end with unsolvable arguments over who can decide what is appropriation and is there really somebody who can ‘give permission’ for a certain food or hair style or clothing pattern to be used and who decides who that is in the first place…

That is how you end up with a teen girl getting a twitter mob on her last May because she bought a vintage dress from a shop for prom.

washingtonpost.com

There is no limiting principle, no recognized definitions or boundaries and no real way to solve any disagreement since there is no shared and understood definition.

I am open to other interpretation here since I readily admit sociology is something of an annoyance and blind spot to me.

Honestly, I just think you need to listen more and read more about it from those groups who are being exploited. Everything you’ve learned and intuited is so obviously coming from the in-group, “colonizer” dynamic.

Meh, there’s no real definition and yall chose the wrong word so generations of wealth not being captured and continued exploitation just can’t be helped. Oh well.

That’s how it comes off to me. And it echoes some of the more liberal defenses of the past atrocities just used for today’s continued systemic oppression and erasure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 1:59:42pm

re: #124 JordanRules

*sigh* Goofy WaPo headline.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:00:29pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:01:36pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

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I feel so bad for her and the kids but fuck that guy.

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gwangung  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:03:09pm

re: #136 JordanRules

Honestly, I just think you need to listen more and read more about it from those groups who are being exploited.

Yup.

When you’re carving up lands from tribes and serving them up to corporations, that’s colonization.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:04:07pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:04:23pm

re: #3 JordanRules

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I had one!

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:05:37pm

Running to be Illinois Lt. Gov.
Smart to hook up with Terry on this.

Man, I used to hate Terry. LOL What an impressive turnaround he had!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:05:37pm

re: #139 JordanRules

I feel so bad for her and the kids but fuck that guy.

Ditto. What the hell did he think Trump was going to do?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:06:36pm

re: #143 JordanRules

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Running to be Illinois Lt. Gov.
Smart to hook up with Terry on this.

Man, I used to hate Terry. LOL What an impressive turnaround he had!

I’ve come to like Terry too. I’ve met his wife Dorothy. Very down to earth. I would have never known she was the First Lady.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:07:44pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:09:24pm

re: #18 Kragar

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:10:29pm

Thread…

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Skip Intro  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:11:40pm

re: #63 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She’s not someone I trust, but it does make sense that Trump was told to tell the cover-story, and just blurted out that he was blocking an investigation because his brain is full of lesions.

So how did she get around her NDA?

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:12:19pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

Woman who voted for the “Face-eating Panther” party candidate is surprised when her face is eaten by a panther.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:14:16pm

Arrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:14:42pm

re: #149 Skip Intro

So how did she get around her NDA?

She probably knows those are bullshit. She knows how Trump operates. Birds of a feather and all.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:15:28pm

re: #92 Kragar

Ironically, the Carr fire exploded mere miles from Bethel Church Redding, which has been in the news this year for its continued support of “conversion therapy.” Kevin Swanson is CLUELESS.

But then again, this is the same guy who said that women who were on the birth control pill had (I have to quote him, it is so incredibly stupid): “there are these little tiny fetuses, these little babies, that are embedded into the womb.” As in, this moron fails to understand basic biology that every woman past menarche can explain to him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:16:01pm

re: #151 JordanRules

Arrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Collins and Murkowski have signaled that they will vote yes so it’s game over for the Court for the next generation.

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Skip Intro  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:17:25pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

She probably knows those are bullshit. She knows how Trump operates. Birds of a feather and all.

So why is Trump so quiet about it? None of these people can be trusted IMO.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:19:03pm

re: #149 Skip Intro

So how did she get around her NDA?

She let folks know after she got booted that there was, in fact, no NDA.

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ObserverArt  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:21:41pm

re: #155 Skip Intro

So why is Trump so quiet about it? None of these people can be trusted IMO.

Book is not out yet. I saw the article when checking my email. It’s meant to stir up sales. He’ll trash her sometime.

However thinking a bit more about it, maybe she has some good stuff on The Don and he knows it.

It will be interesting to watch.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:21:43pm

Reporting from Netroots Nation I assume?

Wherever she did it…good for her!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:21:48pm

moron is delusional.
he retweeted this:

and then tweeted this:

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:24:25pm

re: #150 sizzzzlerz

Woman who voted for the “Face-eating Panther” party candidate is surprised when her face is eaten by a panther.

Earlier today on MSNBC I heard a story about an undocumented woman being deported whose husband was a Trump supporter surprised to find out that when Trump said he would deport all the undocumented immigrants, he meant his wife too!

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:24:31pm

re: #158 JordanRules

Reporting from Netroots Nation I assume?

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Wherever she did it…good for her!

Well damn!! Picking up right where HRC left off.
Go Kamala go!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:24:56pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is delusional.
he retweeted this:

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More purring from a paid off Pulpit Pimp who is addicted to kissing Trump’s ass!

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:25:23pm

re: #136 JordanRules

Sorry, but it is the same language and the same terms I get hit with as a trans woman. You get the TERF (trans exclusionary radical feminist) crowd like Dworkin and McKinnon making common cause with far right wing nuts like Maggie Gallagher etc when they claim I am “colonizing” or “invading” female spaces and “appropriating” a female body.

BBC Radio 4 Women’s Hour presenter Jenni Murray released a hotly-debated article in March entitled, “Be trans, be proud—but don’t call yourself a ‘real woman.’”

A little more research on the topic revealed that this idea of “real women” can be traced back almost 40 years, to the heart of the second-wave feminist movement. In 1979, radical feminist Janice Raymond, incensed over discovering that a trans woman had “invaded” a female space, wrote a book called The Transsexual Empire: The Making of the She-Male, in which she argues that transsexualism reinforces the patriarchal ideals of traditional gender roles, and that transsexuals “rape women’s bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves.”

That is where this leads: ethnic balkanization and repudiation of multi cultural liberal society. This is exactly where Bannon, Gorka, Dreher, Steve Miller are going and this sort of thing both gives them a target but also gives them intellectual cover for claims that liberal democracy is a failure.

At the end of the day, I am going to eat the cuisine I want to eat, wear the clothing I wish to wear, listen to whatever music strikes my fancy and be a trans woman, and I am not going to be apologetic about those things. If I am going to be accused of appropriation, I will tell that person I intend no offense, I am enjoying something that seems interesting and I would like to share something of my Scottish culture in return if they want.

I am not going to stop enjoying it however, and I am not “appropriating” anything by being trans or eating different cuisine or buying a pretty dress. I can listen to the people you say I need to listen to. I simply do not agree on this point.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:25:38pm

re: #151 JordanRules

Arrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Probably because Kavanaugh has virtually secured the support of all 50 available Republican Senators and his confirmation is inevitable.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:27:32pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

I love him. He’s so corny.

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Wow, this is the first I’ve heard of the painting or the theft. The museum must have kept it rather quiet when it came back. I wonder if it’s on display? It might be worth a road trip to see a ~$160MM painting. (Plus, as a resident of Arizona, I’m just glad we have it back.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:31:35pm

re: #165 Big Beautiful Door

Probably because Kavanaugh has virtually secured the support of all 50 available Republican Senators and his confirmation is inevitable.

Collins and Murkowski will vote to confirm knowing damn well that when the Court kills Roe they are finished politically.

Both of them put Party above Country..

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:32:44pm

re: #164 Scottish Dragon

I’m not on any TERF shit but I will damn sure listen to you and defer to you about it.

You came into the conversation on some America isn’t a colonizer stuff that completely ignores how fucked up shit still is for Natives. We can find a new word if that works better. But ain’t shit sweet about Gaza OR the rez here or in Canada.

You can make your personal choices as you see fit and still acknowledge what the system is doing. Just give a damn about and listen to the people as much as you want to wear or eat something. Love the people and their culture.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:34:23pm

This is a more amusing story about the finding of the painting (doesn’t have a discussion about the alleged thieves). It includes a quote from the curator Olivia Miller, who said she knelt down in front of the painting when she first saw it and said, “Holy shitballs.”

tucsonweekly.com

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:34:55pm

Fun on FB
I get this windy rant

But Daniel l thought your were a independent you know your supposed to be neutral. Look you guys voted in your messiah obama who was trained by a radiCal left moron who went around bombing fed buildings in the 60 s and you elect a guy never had a real job in his life you know like socialist hero Bernie who never had real job until he was 42 and obama s healthcare plan and economic socialist plan was joke putting high numbers of people and businesses out of work and to be obama got into office because republicans were acting like dems which frustrates people and whale you got the far left screwing up things bad enough which why because of the rinos and far left socialist failure s you guys created the tea party movement which caused the left to lose both houses and of course get trump elected to your dismay and of course the msm being 95 percent pro lib all the time contributed to this result. You guys are always giving me facts and figures to back up your side but you always make one mistake you never analyze the results of the lefts failures you just pass it over and double down keep doing the same thing expecting a different result every time repeat the same mistake so keep doing what you are doing your just helping us deplorable s.

So My retort. Did I sound cranky?

Indy is NOT neutral. Not Switzerland. I advocate as I see fit from the information I can get. And the facts tend to tell a very different story, results and all than the GOP or Trump does. Our rate of people leaving California is lower than Texas. Our unemployment is lower than most of the rest of the US. Certainly much lower than some of the most conservative states. A bigger economy than most of the very conservative states combined. You really won’t like the rate of corporate investment here either. It’s massive, a level most places would die for. Make fun of California all ya want. I’ll enjoy your humor while drinking better wine than France, slicing better cheese than Wisconsin on a nice beach. Then go back in to the office ‘cause lunch is over. You can pretend to own the libs but ideology feeds no one. Well except in the peoples White House and over at Fox news these days.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:35:59pm

re: #124 JordanRules

*sigh* Goofy WaPo headline.

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sagehen  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:38:51pm

re: #107 ObserverArt

Dear David Farhenthold,

I like your political coverage. Stick to that.

Art is not your thing.

Signed,

Me

He’s the guy who looks at a Jasper Johns and says “my 4-year-old could do that.” Then he wonders what visual impairment caused Picasso to see things the way he does.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:39:06pm

Glerk…….

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:39:34pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:40:53pm

re: #169 mmmirele

This is a more amusing story about the finding of the painting (doesn’t have a discussion about the alleged thieves). It includes a quote from the curator Olivia Miller, who said she knelt down in front of the painting when she first saw it and said, “Holy shitballs.”

Pam?

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:42:38pm
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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:43:18pm

re: #170 Unshaken Defiance

LOL good times. Use a damn period or 6 fer chrissakes.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:44:51pm

re: #168 JordanRules

I’m not on any TERF shit but I will damn sure listen to you and defer to you about it.

You came into the conversation on some America isn’t a colonizer stuff that completely ignores how fucked up shit still is for Natives. We can find a new word if that works better. But ain’t shit sweet about Gaza OR the rez here or in Canada.

You can make your personal choices as you see fit and still acknowledge what the system is doing. Just give a damn about and listen to the people as much as you want to wear or eat something. Love the people and their culture.

This is where we are talking past each other, I think. Talking about cultural colonization and making absurd claims like “learn your language or whites will learn it for you” completely ignores and trivializes concrete and utterly tangible systemic racism and disparities in education, income, administration of law enforcement and health care.

Attacking a teenage girl for wearing a dress or attacking me for…wait for it…wearing a dress*…is really fucking missing the ball. There are people on reservations right now fighting heart disease and have no medical care within 200 miles.

It isn’t colonization. It’s neglect.

*Not even remotely aiming that at you, of course.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:47:55pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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The moment you hear a complaint about identity politics, you know the person is an idiot or is arguing in bad faith. This one is easy from a simple historical standpoint:

All politics are identity politics and white Christian identity politics have been the default assumption for 300 years in America. Most white people are too ethnocentric to understand that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:48:56pm

This is when you call the National Guard

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:51:21pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is when you can the National Guard

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Time for a flamethrower.

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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:51:34pm

re: #170 Unshaken Defiance

Fun on FB
I get this windy rant

So My retort. Did I sound cranky?

i’ve faced the same problem with “moderate” for the last 15 years or so. i always reply that moderate does not mean fence sitting or wishy washy. It means not being pigeonholed into polarizing left/right, conservative/liberal paradigms. It means not holding extreme positions, generally black and white ones.

It does not mean that I can’t hold strong or convicted opinions.

It also generally means to face each issue on its own merits. I don’t have to have the same position on the spectrum for issue B as issue A.

Moderate mostly means non-ideologue

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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:52:10pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is when you call the National Guard

re: #182 Scottish Dragon

Time for a flamethrower.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:52:17pm

re: #105 Scottish Dragon

The appropriation here is taking a word…colonization…and misusing it in a way to set an inflammatory definition on unavoidable human contact. The fact that Europeans stole land and lives from American indigenous people is crime enough. You will get no argument from me if you want to talk about racial disparities in law enforcement, education and public health. Those things are not ‘colonization’ however.

This argument seems pedantic at best in that these racial disparities in wealth, use of force and political power arose directly out of and are perched upon a foundation of colonization. You seem to be quibbling about whether the word itself adequately describes the ongoing situation where those of us who most directly benefited from a horrific crime continue to be accessories to said crime after the act.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:52:30pm

re: #179 Scottish Dragon

For sure, for sure. I got you!
I’d moved past that persons pronouncements, but wanted to make sure the bigger picture wasn’t missed.

I will still have my personal qualms about certain personal acts that might be deemed appropriation but I think they will generally make sense within the big picture if I explained why I’m bothered and they definitely won’t be excuses to move into new bigot territory (TERF).

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Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:52:35pm

re: #169 mmmirele

This is a more amusing story about the finding of the painting (doesn’t have a discussion about the alleged thieves). It includes a quote from the curator Olivia Miller, who said she knelt down in front of the painting when she first saw it and said, “Holy shitballs.”

tucsonweekly.com

A lot more detail!!! This story!

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 2:55:24pm

Bloop!

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:07:51pm

re: #185 goddamnedfrank

This argument seems pedantic at best in that these racial disparities in wealth, use of force and political power arose directly out of and are perched upon a foundation of colonization. You seem to be quibbling about whether the word itself adequately describes the ongoing situation where those of us who most directly benefited from a horrific crime continue to be accessories to said crime after the act.

Colonization is a discrete activity and has a discrete meaning. Use of the word here I think mischaracterizes what is essentially systemic racist neglect as I mention up above. Moreover, focus on cultural appropriation issues (which I saw on her twitter feed, but I cannot say whether that is a focus in any of her professional work) is a gross disservice to the people in question who are facing actual social emergencies and likely couldn’t give a shit as to whether somebody is wearing an item of ethnic jewelry. It is this sort of thing that astonishes me. People are being being bullied and harassed by the police, racially profiled, left without medical care and without job prospects and we need to debate as to whether use of a clothing item is sufficiently respectful according to a self appointed arbiter on an anonymous platform?

I’m sorry, I just can’t wrap my mind around the fact that there are real emergencies and we are kinda debating the taste of the orange juice in the Titanic salon.

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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:08:53pm

re: #169 mmmirele

This is a more amusing story about the finding of the painting (doesn’t have a discussion about the alleged thieves). It includes a quote from the curator Olivia Miller, who said she knelt down in front of the painting when she first saw it and said, “Holy shitballs.”

tucsonweekly.com

Dallas TV station WFAA did a little documentary about the Alters and the finding of the painting. The Alters did an awful lot of traveling on a schoolteacher’s salary. Personally, I wonder what else they stole. The documentary also has video of Olivia Miller kneeling in front of the painting and you can barely hear her saying, “Holy shitballs.” It’s in the last two minutes.

Discovering de Kooning: A WFAA documentary

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:12:13pm

re: #194 JordanRules

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Right now Trump’s team is weighing exactly how nuclear they can go. My cynical opinion is that they’ve settled on holding out until the midterms are over and then as long as Republicans still control the Senate they’ll go all in on overt obstruction. Their, probably correct, view will be that no matter what the Republicans won’t back impeachment.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:13:10pm

re: #18 Kragar

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What a snowflake!

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:13:29pm

re: #186 JordanRules

For sure, for sure. I got you!
I’d moved past that persons pronouncements, but wanted to make sure the bigger picture wasn’t missed.

I will still have my personal qualms about certain personal acts that might be deemed appropriation but I think they will generally make sense within the big picture if I explained why I’m bothered and they definitely won’t be excuses to move into new bigot territory (TERF).

Hugs, sweetie :)

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:14:56pm

re: #196 Scottish Dragon

I’m sorry, I just can’t wrap my mind around the fact that there are real emergencies and we are kinda debating the taste of the orange juice in the Titanic salon.

You were the one to bring up this semantic objection.

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fern01  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:15:02pm

re: #143 JordanRules

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Running to be Illinois Lt. Gov.
Smart to hook up with Terry on this.

Man, I used to hate Terry. LOL What an impressive turnaround he had!

Good example of why you always support and vote for the democrat. A lesson those who voted against Hillary have yet to learn

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:15:24pm
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dangerman  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:16:21pm

washington post via political wire

Trade Deficit Soars Under Trump

The United States trade deficit widened in June and is on track to be the biggest in a decade despite President Trump’s efforts to slash it,” the Washington Post reports.

“For the first half of 2018, the trade deficit in goods and services hit $291.2 billion, the federal government reported Friday, which is higher than last year and puts the nation on track to have the largest annual deficit since 2008.”

well of course the tarriffs havent had a chance to have an effect yet…/s

(my bold)

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:16:54pm

re: #196 Scottish Dragon

“and likely couldn’t give a shit as to whether somebody is wearing an item of ethnic jewelry.”

This is an assumption I don’t think you should be prepared to make if you can’t see how acceptable commodification that ignores the source who is disadvantaged and doesn’t have the same opportunities is related to the racist neglect.

Yeah. I do get fuckin pissed when a white woman gets credit for a hairstyle that black women have been rocking for decades because it’s acceptable on her. We were erased and they get different types of currency from it. And then add on the fact that you know it’s historical and you and your family keep seeing it happen over and over again. Yeah. I get pissed and it’s all related.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:18:56pm

Just heard Jennifer Rubin on NPR, talking about that confrontation between Jim Acosta and Sarah H. Sanders yesterday. Boy, she took no prisoners. Just called SHS a liar, over and over, and said she had absorbed the DT position that if someone doesn’t like her personally, that means the person doesn’t like America. It is an authoritarian position.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:18:57pm

re: #201 goddamnedfrank

You were the one to bring up this semantic objection.

I think we are letting this one go and moving on. My objection was to her usage and the Titanic example was aimed at the academic debate in general rather than the brief conversation here. I didn’t make that clear.

Anyways, next order of business, lol

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:22:41pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:24:09pm
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:24:11pm

re: #204 dangerman

washington post via political wire

Trade Deficit Soars Under Trump

well of course the tarriffs havent had a chance to have an effect yet…/s

(my bold)

How many ways are there to prove Republicans at every level, all the way down to Joe “Lock Her Up” Schmuck, have zero clue how economies work?

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jaunte  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:31:07pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:31:24pm
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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:32:49pm

re: #205 JordanRules

*sigh*

Isn’t that kind of the definition of first world problems?

I can complain about this:

Lolita anime kilted miniskirts!

So we are going to do a Japanese take on traditional Scottish competition dance clothing and commercialize it into ridiculous Lolita sexytimes nonsense.

Yes, I find it kinda offensive. I also realize that I have a relative position of cultural power that means it cannot easily be used as a slur against me and I get that. More to the point though, it simply does not affect my day to day problems of money, back pain and worries of trans discrimination. I can look at that, see that it is stupid and offensive and still have to worry about actual, concrete issues.

In the end, if somebody wants to wear that crap…it’s their money and not mine and I see no point in trying to shame them if they are already silly enough to buy this stuff. It won’t work for starters, since I have no power in their lives and do not desire any. Moreover, I do not want others to have power to tell me what I should or should not wear in return.

And that is seriously all I want to say on this. I’m hurting from sitting here so I will see you guys after the news.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:33:25pm

re: #208 JordanRules

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I gave up on Sullivan a couple years ago.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:33:58pm

Just finished a short BBC doc on David (King Ed)Windsor that I fell asleep on last night.

I didn’t know many details surrounding the situation with him, Wallis and The Crown.

Hoooboy! He and his wife were a trip.
Been watching a lot of stuff on traitors lately. Must be something in the air.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:35:02pm

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

LOL Fear of a Black Hat is one of the most criminally underrated films ever.

7.2/10 IMDb
86% Rotten Tomatoes
3/4 Roger Ebert

It did OK ratings-wise. I’ll watch it tonight.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:40:03pm

re: #115 Kragar

I like my paintings to actually looks like something.

Abstractionists can fuck right off.

There. I said it.

Speaking of stupidly overpriced abstract art. This is a painting called “Voice of Fire”. The National Gallery of Canada purchased it in 1989…for $1.8 Million.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:40:06pm

re: #213 Scottish Dragon

*sigh*

Isn’t that kind of the definition of first world problems?

I can complain about this:

Lolita anime kilted miniskirts!

So we are going to do a Japanese take on traditional Scottish competition dance clothing and commercialize it into ridiculous Lolita sexytimes nonsense.

Yes, I find it kinda offensive. I also realize that I have a relative position of cultural power that means it cannot easily be used as a slur against me and I get that. More to the point though, it simply does not affect my day to day problems of money, back pain and worries of trans discrimination. I can look at that, see that it is stupid and offensive and still have to worry about actual, concrete issues.

In the end, if somebody want to wear that crap…it’s their money and not mine and I see no point in trying to shame them if they are already silly enough to buy this stuff. It won’t work for starters, since I have no power in the lives and do not desire any. Moreover, I do not want others to have power to tell me what I should or should not wear in return.

And that is seriously all I want to say on this. I’m hurting from sitting here so I will see you guys after the news.

You seriously think continued erasure and discrimination (yes, with black women and hair, it’s a real thing) is a first world problem and isn’t related to the big picture?!?!?
Like how??

Yeah I’m done too. I was really trying to tamp down my own feelings of anger around it but I’m owning it and walking away.

I do miss Bourdain.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:42:21pm

re: #215 JordanRules

The British Royal Family has always been very colorful. Go back to Henry VIII and then go forward. Lots of juicy stories and lots of scandal.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:45:04pm

re: #175 JordanRules

So, when will Bernie propose a bill banning the phrase sp he can claim to be out u. Front of the issue?

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:46:07pm

Hmph. Timeline full of AAVE, but called the cops on a black woman and coulda got her killed. Damn shame.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:47:34pm

re: #214 Scottish Dragon

I gave up on Sullivan a couple years ago.

I gave up on that Tory Twit when he gladly lied any lie to help kill Hillarycare. Thanks to that Tory Twit my parents lost their home because of doctor bills.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:48:18pm

re: #219 PhillyPretzel

The British Royal Family has always been very colorful. Go back to Henry VIII and then go forward. Lots of juicy stories and lots of scandal.

I’m super intrigued now and am definitely going to get into some of the really old scandals.

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fern01  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:50:50pm

re: #215 JordanRules

Just finished a short BBC doc on David (King Ed)Windsor that I fell asleep on last night.

I didn’t know many details surrounding the situation with him, Wallis and The Crown.

Hoooboy! He and his wife were a trip.
Been watching a lot of stuff on traitors lately. Must be something in the air.

There was a series called Edward and Mrs Simpson - made - late 1970s? Some of it is on youtube - I had videos of same - moons ago - probably got to a DVD at some stage. (The series didn’t cover what they did after leaving the UK- that is another interesting story.)

They both lived in dreamworld at the time thinking the UK would accept the marriage - how things have changed in 80 years.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:52:19pm
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jaunte  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:52:59pm
“…In 2017, [Trump] lied 2,140 times, while over the past six months he’s lied 4,229 times — averaging 16 lies a day this summer alone.”
teenvogue.com

The disease accelerates.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:53:11pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

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Trump is sowing the seeds for violence against members of the media. His followers are already parroting that desire.

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:53:38pm

re: #6 freetoken

Used one a couple of times.

But that picture - how is it this couple is so happy looking at a few lines of text on a screen? And the young guy - he’d only have that smile if Penthouse was available on the TRS-80.

A friend of ours had one and I loved it! There was a game, sorta like D&D, where you collected stuff throughout the kingdom and used them to advance through the game.

I could have played that all the dang time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:55:17pm

re: #228 MsJ

A friend of ours had one and I loved it! There was a game, sorta like D&D, where you collected stuff throughout the kingdom and used them to advance through the game.

I could have played that all the dang time.

Zork?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:56:09pm

re: #215 JordanRules

Just finished a short BBC doc on David (King Ed)Windsor that I fell asleep on last night.

I didn’t know many details surrounding the situation with him, Wallis and The Crown.

Hoooboy! He and his wife were a trip.
Been watching a lot of stuff on traitors lately. Must be something in the air.

The traitors seem to have an ever-larger following, too. Even long dead ones have their fans. Anonymous review of The Nazi King at Netflix:

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Stanley Sea  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:58:16pm

re: #212 gocart mozart

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Assignment: Photograph aravice.

OK, NP, I’ll go to the yam house. He’s game.

Most disgusting photo.

She twirled at the right moment.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:59:08pm

re: #224 fern01

This doc is fairly new (2009) and pieced together a much more complex picture with the release of previously secret official docs. Yeah, the marriage worked as great cover story but it really looks like the Nazi and traitor thing buried his ass. Fascinating stuff.

I grew up believing it was all about the marriage but definitely not anymore.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2018 • 3:59:21pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The traitors seem to have an ever-larger following, too. Even long dead ones have their fans. Anonymous review of The Nazi King at Netflix:

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Actually there are a lot of negative reviews of this. Many show a striking similarity of language and syntax, as though they originate from a common source. Hmmm….

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:00:12pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Actually there are a lot of negative reviews of this. Many show a striking similarity of language and syntax, as though they originate from a common source. Hmmm….

Wow!!! I shouldn’t be surprised though. They are everywhere Shiplord.

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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:00:49pm

So on this NRA thing I’m not sure if we’re there yet. A few have made the point that the NRA is making a statement of financial risk in a lawsuit and it’s being interpreted as ‘NRA going out of business.’ No, the NRA is saying ‘financial hardship’ in a lawsuit where they are trying to get insurance.

Thoughts and Prayers for them. To go out of business.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:02:11pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:08:52pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:10:31pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:12:44pm

Sounds promising, but Nunberg is the source so I don’t know.

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:19:49pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

Says a Jewish Puerto Rican on a network owned by an Aussie. Dumbass.

Am Aussie (who did get US citizenship) who has ties to Russia.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:20:14pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:20:36pm

Hmmm. This is new.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:20:42pm

In which Dumbass D’Stupids thinks that falling over while convulsed in laughter is an expression of “fear”

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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:21:23pm

re: #242 Dr. Matt

THAT’S A GOT DAM LIY!

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:23:40pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:24:02pm

I don’t feel sorry for her or her family. When you vote against your best interests, THIS is what happens. Adios.

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wrenchwench  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:25:58pm

re: #247 Dr. Matt

I don’t feel sorry for her or her family. When you vote against your best interests, THIS is what happens. Adios.

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She didn’t vote for tRump, her husband did.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:26:33pm

re: #247 Dr. Matt

Elections have consequences.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:27:23pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:27:32pm

re: #248 wrenchwench

She didn’t vote for tRump, her husband did.

Elections have consequences.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:29:45pm

re: #251 Dr. Matt

Elections have consequences.

True and that should be directed at her husband.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:30:13pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:30:43pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:30:46pm

I can’t wait to see what this will be.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:30:51pm

re: #252 JordanRules

True and that should be directed at her husband.

Maybe there was strife in the house and he did the calling/////(maybe)

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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:31:14pm

re: #252 JordanRules

True and that should be directed at her husband.

He’s a republican so it’s a very good chance he doesn’t care because he’s a soulless monster.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:31:51pm

re: #255 Single-handed sailor

Same as usual. All show and no go.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:31:57pm

re: #227 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Trump is sowing the seeds for violence against members of the media. His followers are already parroting that desire.

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This started under Romney.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:32:21pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:32:51pm

The Left has warned these assholes that voting against your best interests will come back to bite them in the ass. For them to learn a lesson, they are going to have suffer.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:32:58pm

re: #252 JordanRules

True and that should be directed at her husband.

Exactly, he was literally the only one with a vote and he used it to sanction exactly this kind of shit. He just probably thought his family would somehow be exempt via his service and the fact that he looks white. Absolute fucking entitlement.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:34:23pm

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

Exactly, he was literally the only one with a vote and he used it to sanction exactly this kind of shit. He just probably thought his family would somehow be exempt via his service and the fact that he looks white. Absolute fucking entitlement.

And it’s a sure bet he’ll vote straight GOP ticket in the midterms. They never learn….

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:36:23pm

re: #255 Single-handed sailor

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I can’t wait to see what this will be.

It’s a Ponzi Scheme.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:37:58pm

re: #261 Dr. Matt

The Left has warned these assholes that voting against your best interests will come back to bite them in the ass. For them to learn a lesson, they are going to have suffer.

Except he’s not really the one suffering, his wife and daughters are. And you have no sympathy for them why exactly? They’re essentially victims of domestic abuse by proxy and you’re summarily blaming them collectively for their own victimization. Maybe slow down a bit.

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BigPapa  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:38:22pm

Dinesh D’anger. I love it.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:39:04pm

re: #247 Dr. Matt

I don’t feel sorry for her or her family. When you vote against your best interests, THIS is what happens. Adios.

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Yep. I have zero sympathy for her or the farmers who voted for Trump and are now being harmed by his tariff policy. GOOD.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:39:31pm

Just amazing beyond belief. This album contains worlds.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:43:41pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:43:50pm

Milton Glaser’s Proposed Logo for Trump’s ‘Space Force’:

The others are good too: An Idiotic Idea Doesn’t Deserve Branding This Good.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:44:06pm

LOL

Ahh, but then there’s this

Carceral state. All screwed up.

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gocart mozart  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:46:11pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:57:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 4:58:57pm

I swear all they’re trying to do at this point is get through the midterms. Then they’re going to manufacture a crisis and use it to solidify all power behind Trump. The last thing any of these assholes can allow at this point is real accountability or daylight to shine on what they’ve been doing. The only guaranteed way to stop them is to vote in such overwhelming numbers that Dems get supermajorities in both the House and Senate and that’s not going to happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:00:38pm

good grief

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:01:05pm

Still no officials in jail for contempt, white privilege.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:13:06pm

have a cookie and STFU

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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:13:31pm

re: #265 goddamnedfrank

And you have no sympathy for them why exactly? They’re essentially victims of domestic abuse by proxy and you’re summarily blaming them collectively for their own victimization. Maybe slow down a bit.

Nope. Not at all. You sleep with dogs…..you get deported. Adios.

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Cheechako  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:13:59pm

OT

I little bit of excitement in the homestead backyard this afternoon:

There go the strawberries :(

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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:15:07pm

re: #267 Patricia Kayden

Yep. I have zero sympathy for her or the farmers who voted for Trump and are now being harmed by his tariff policy. GOOD.

Amen and x10000. We warned them over and over and over and over. My sympathy has dried up for anyone that votes GOP or associates with them.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:16:17pm

Stuttering John has been hammering Lipsy McSteroids all week:

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:16:30pm

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Nope. Not at all. You sleep with dogs…..you get deported. Adios.

Well the kids aren’t being deported. They just don’t have a Mom here any longer.
I would think plenty of people in this thread would not want to be punished for who their Dad voted for.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:19:12pm
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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:19:37pm

re: #241 MsJ

Am Aussie (who did get US citizenship) who has ties to Russia.

An Aussie who was assisted in getting his US citizenship by Newt Gingrich (who just happened to get a big book advance from said Aussie.)

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:20:43pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:21:21pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

[Naturalized citizen & marine veteran votes for Trump, has the nerve to act surprised when his undocumented wife & mother of his two daughters is deported

It’s cheaper than divorce.*

*Sorry I’m out of fucks to give to these people. We knew this would happen an it is. We we called alarmists. We were right all along.

/not really sorry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:25:47pm

re: #283 JordanRules

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and still spelled it wrong.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:26:12pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:29:02pm

Yes, I really did just watch a video doing an in-depth comparison of Shake Shack vs. In-N-Out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:29:46pm
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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:30:00pm

re: #285 JordanRules

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And, apparently having run out of Trump supporters in diners, Nazis and poor put upon English speaking white folks, QAnon assholes are the new go-to for in-depth reporting.

Do better, WaPo (they have had like 10 or more QAnon stories in the past 3 days.)

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:30:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:34:41pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:37:31pm

re: #279 Cheechako

OT

I little bit of excitement in the homestead backyard this afternoon:

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There go the strawberries :(

Oh, he’s so CUTE! Can we keep him, pleeeeeeease?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:39:25pm
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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:40:40pm

re: #288 JordanRules

He’s been wanting to do this since people went nuts on DK after his announcement after Super Tuesday that it was time to get ready for the general election.

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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:44:00pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

Yes, I really did just watch a video doing an in-depth comparison of Shake Shack vs. In-N-Out.

What was the verdict? We’re still In-and-Out less on the East Coast, although Shake Shack has invaded NJ and Philly.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:50:26pm

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:53:35pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The tenth of never then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:55:00pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:57:46pm
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Bubblehead II  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:59:14pm

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 3, 2018 • 5:59:41pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why would someone want to do that in to protect Trump?? It makes no sense. Unless he knows Putin-Trump Regime will kill his family.

Manafort wouldn’t care about that. It’s just that he considers this whole proceeding a joke, secure in the knowledge that tRump will pardon him.

Then he’ll refuse to testify against tRump, and tRump will pardon him for that, ad inf.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:01:00pm

re: #279 Cheechako

OT

I little bit of excitement in the homestead backyard this afternoon:

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There go the strawberries :(

Beats my small herd of deer, paws down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:01:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:01:50pm

re: #297 Mattand

What was the verdict? We’re still In-and-Out less on the East Coast, although Shake Shack has invaded NJ and Philly.

Bottom line, they’re both pretty fuckin’ great.

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Cheechako  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:02:01pm

re: #294 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, he’s so CUTE! Can we keep him, pleeeeeeease?

Nooooo!!! It’s (I didn’t want to get up close to evaluate it’s sex) one of pair that’s been hanging round the neighborhood. One of the pair was hit by a car a couple of days ago. It did run off so we don’t know if it survived. These bears have been a PITA getting into garbage cans. Eventually they may get “relocated” into a remote are.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:03:36pm

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fundies really should be condemning this place as a Citadel of Satan since
A. Its address is 666.
B. It really IS a Citadel of Satan.

I wonder why they don’t? Never mind, we know why.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:04:43pm

re: #308 Cheechako

Nooooo!!! It’s (I didn’t want to get up close to evaluate it’s sex) one of pair that’s been hanging round the neighborhood. One of the pair was hit by a car a couple of days ago. It did run off so we don’t know if it survived. These bears have been a PITA getting into garbage cans. Eventually they may get “relocated” into a remote are.

They are very smart, very resourceful, and can be incredibly annoying to deal with when accustomed to humans. That being said, I think they’re just adorable and I hope he/she gets resettled safely.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:07:31pm
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Cheechako  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:08:08pm

re: #310 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They are very smart, very resourceful, and can be incredibly annoying to deal with when accustomed to humans. That being said, I think they’re just adorable and I hope he/she gets resettled safely.

It’s what to expect when humans build in prime bear habitat.

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retired cynic  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:09:52pm

That thread by John Scalzi up above was great, and it brought out some good comments, too. Someone posted this quote from Sarte that really is timely now, both in regard to anti-semites and the alt right in general:

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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:10:41pm

re: #310 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They are very smart, very resourceful, and can be incredibly annoying to deal with when accustomed to humans. That being said, I think they’re just adorable and I hope he/she gets resettled safely.

I saw one about 100 yards off in the Poconos while walking the dog. Remy wanted to go see the big weird looking canine, and the damn thing started heading slowly towards us.

I got the dog under control and slowly walked away. Once the bear disappeared into another yard, I called the cops and let them know there was a bear in the area. They were pretty much like “Yeah, flatlander, call us when there’s an actual problem.”

I prefer my bears in zoos, thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:11:49pm

this thread:

keep on reading…it gets better and better.

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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:12:22pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Bottom line, they’re both pretty fuckin’ great.

I like Shake Shack’s chicken sandwiches, but when I get a burger, the buns are always soggy. Wonder if it’s just that location.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:18:10pm

don’t hold back, Oliver…

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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:21:45pm

re: #311 JordanRules

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These three little words say it all.

By RICH LOWRY

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:21:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:23:37pm

re: #314 Mattand

I saw one about 100 yards off in the Poconos while walking the dog. Remy wanted to go see the big weird looking canine, and the damn thing started heading slowly towards us.

I got the dog under control and slowly walked away. Once the bear disappeared into another yard, I called the cops and let them know there was a bear in the area. They were pretty much like “Yeah, flatlander, call us when there’s an actual problem.”

I prefer my bears in zoos, thanks.

I live in bear country - well, sort of. I’ve never seen one around here. One of my brothers-in-law came home from work late one evening and thought he saw a dog in his driveway. Upon closer inspection, it wasn’t a dog. I like bears, I wouldn’t mind meeting one… at a safe distance, and not when it’s hungry or protecting its cubs.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:25:10pm

re: #318 BeachDem

These three little words say it all.

By RICH LOWRY

You’re right. It’s that asshole Starbursts. He’s a champ in the bad take life.

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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:28:49pm

re: #320 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I live in bear country - well, sort of. I’ve never seen one around here. One of my brothers-in-law came home from work late one evening and thought he saw a dog in his driveway. Upon closer inspection, it wasn’t a dog. I like bears, I wouldn’t mind meeting one… at a safe distance, and not when it’s hungry or protecting its cubs.

We had one somehow wander down to South Jersey from the mountains in North Jersey a few years back. Bears in these parts are as rare as Republicans with a conscience.

Apparently it was following the creeks in the area, eating skunk cabbage. Fortunately, it never caused a scene and moved on.

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BeachDem  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:30:09pm

It never ends:


Interior Secretary Zinke under investigation for Halliburton-backed brewpub plans

dailykos.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:30:42pm

re: #323 BeachDem

It never ends:

Interior Secretary Zinke under investigation for Halliburton-backed brewpub plans

dailykos.com

The best people.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:31:50pm

re: #322 Mattand

We had one somehow wander down to South Jersey from the mountains in North Jersey a few years back. Bears in these parts are as rare as Republicans with a conscience.

Apparently it was following the creeks in the area, eating skunk cabbage. Fortunately, it never caused a scene and moved on.

One of the first news stories when I moved to the wild north country, and I remember it clearly because I was still staying at a hotel while interviewing and looking for housing: A MOOSE was running around on the beltway that surrounds the Twin Cities. It had gotten separated from the herd that rambles through the area every fall and found its way into rush hour traffic. It escaped safely, but I remember thinking, “Dear God,what have I gotten myself into?”

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:35:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:36:05pm
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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:36:56pm

re: #318 BeachDem

These three little words say it all.

By RICH LOWRY

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:36:59pm

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let me show you my surprised face.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:37:35pm

Uhhh….How would this work?

They don’t know either. SMDH

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:39:46pm

Syria, international weapons testing grounds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:39:58pm
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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:40:40pm

re: #330 JordanRules

Uhhh….How would this work?

[Embedded content]

They don’t know either. SMDH

It’d be nice if the Metro implemented a “No Nazis ever” policy.

It’d also be nice if the fucking Republicans in this country, as well as Twitter, implemented one as well, but I shouldn’t be greedy, I guess.

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:42:04pm

re: #229 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Zork?

Don’t think so. But honestly, it was long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:42:06pm

re: #331 Single-handed sailor

Syria, international weapons testing grounds.

[Embedded content]

Echoes of the Spanish Civil War.

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William Lewis  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:43:04pm

re: #120 Kragar

I’ve got one painting in my house.

“Last Night of the War”

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I have several original paintings, some of my own photos framed and, my favorite, a framed poster of the Wright Brothers first powered flight: Image: wright-flyer-8x10crop.jpg

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MsJ  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:45:11pm

re: #240 JordanRules

Sounds promising, but Nunberg is the source so I don’t know.

[Embedded content]

GIRLIE WOODY AND MULTIPLE ORGASMS!!!

Fuck Roger Stone. (Spit) Rot in prison, you sick prick.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:45:12pm

re: #206 retired cynic

Just heard Jennifer Rubin on NPR, talking about that confrontation between Jim Acosta and Sarah H. Sanders yesterday. Boy, she took no prisoners. Just called SHS a liar, over and over, and said she had absorbed the DT position that if someone doesn’t like her personally, that means the person doesn’t like America. It is an authoritarian position.

I thought I heard Jim call her ‘sir’ at one point in the exchange.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:48:56pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:49:02pm

re: #337 MsJ

GIRLIE WOODY AND MULTIPLE ORGASMS!!!

Fuck Roger Stone. (Spit) Rot in prison, you sick prick.

Ha! I was thinking of you when I posted that.
Phalanges crossed!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:50:28pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

Translated Orrin Hatch (R-Dumbshit Capital): It’s OK if he’s a Republican.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:51:56pm
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MsJ  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:52:09pm

re: #282 JordanRules

Well the kids aren’t being deported. They just don’t have a Mom here any longer.
I would think plenty of people in this thread would not want to be punished for who their Dad voted for.

I don’t think anyone wants anyone else to be punished. I have deep empathy for the kids and the mom. I have zero for the dude.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:54:28pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:55:52pm

re: #343 MsJ

I don’t think anyone wants anyone else to be punished. I have deep empathy for the kids and the mom. I have zero for the dude.

Agreed. I said that way down in the thread.
Fuck him.

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:59:05pm

Yessss!!!!!!!

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Mattand  Aug 3, 2018 • 6:59:24pm

re: #343 MsJ

I don’t think anyone wants anyone else to be punished. I have deep empathy for the kids and the mom. I have zero for the dude.

During the initial travel ban, there was a family of Trump-voting Syrian immigrants in Philly that got a rude surprise when their relatives got held up at PHL.

“Let’s vote for the guy and the party who are vowing to discriminate against people like me, because surely it won’t affect me.”

I just do not get people at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:01:36pm
349
JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:03:36pm
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plansbandc  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:05:30pm

Smile! It’s the weekend!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:05:33pm

re: #347 Mattand

During the initial travel ban, there was a family of Trump-voting Syrian immigrants in Philly that got a rude surprise when their relatives got held up at PHL.

“Let’s vote for the guy and the party who are vowing to discriminate against people like me, because surely it won’t affect me.”

I just do not get people at all.

People have been told over and over that politicians don’t mean what they say. But the reality is that politicians usually try to keep the promises they make when campaigning. So when a politician promises to deport your wife and bar your relatives, you better believe him.

352
JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:08:01pm

Meghan should have left Soledad alone. LOL

353
JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:11:43pm
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mmmirele  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:13:11pm

re: #281 Dr. Matt

Stuttering John has been hammering Lipsy McSteroids all week:

[Embedded content]

Not generally a fan of Stuttering John, but this was funny.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:14:21pm
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Ace-o-aces  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:17:58pm

Once again, Ben benefits from a lowered bar.

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stpaulbear  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:20:06pm
David Fahrenthold

@Fahrenthold

Trump associate, 50, invited 20-something Butina to a Styx concert.

Steve Marmel

@Marmel

LEAVE.
STYX.
OUT OF THIS.

Styx - Lies

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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:24:00pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:25:47pm

Macho Marco the hawk.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:26:42pm

re: #358 JordanRules

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Instead Hannity is talking about gay emojis.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:35:41pm

While I’m not well versed on her stuff I’ve seen plenty of Sarah’s tweets over the years and her worst sins come off like a person being too clever by half sometimes, which is a pretty goddamned familiar human foible.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:36:40pm

O_o

Duct tape, really? if the guy refused to shut up, the judge should have ordered him removed from the court room.

364
wheat-dogg  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:42:02pm

re: #360 Single-handed sailor

Tucker trying to look serious, instead looks befuddled.

365
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:44:45pm

re: #364 wheat-dogg

Tucker trying to look serious, instead looks befuddled constipated.

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TedStriker  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:45:06pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

Yes, I really did just watch a video doing an in-depth comparison of Shake Shack vs. In-N-Out.

Shake Shack’s building a store here in Nashville, but In-N-Out is less likely to come here than Whataburger returning after 30+ years away from the area (which I hope Whataburger does).

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 7:45:11pm

Here are some interesting stats from today’s jobs report. People with at least a bachelors degree are basically at full employment, their unemployment rate has barely changed over the last year from 2.3% to 2.2%, People with at least a high school degree have seen their unemployment drop by a half point over the last year. In contrast, there has been a huge drop in the unemployment rate for high school dropouts in the last year, from 7% to 5.1%. They are either getting jobs as employers have to lower their standards, dropping out of the work force, or getting their GEDs to move up the economic ladder.

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:04:16pm

re: #360 Single-handed sailor

Macho Marco the hawk.

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Trump is making it happen, Marco.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:04:42pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Duct tape, really? if the guy refused to shut up, the judge should have ordered him removed from the court room.

Is he acting as his own lawyer?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:06:04pm

re: #369 BlueSpotinAL

Is he acting as his own lawyer?

Not gagged he isn’t!

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Belafon  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:07:08pm

re: #366 TedStriker

Where are you?

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:08:47pm

re: #369 BlueSpotinAL

Is he acting as his own lawyer?

Apparently had a defense attorney, and this was during the sentencing.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:09:49pm

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:14:10pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

have a cookie and STFU

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:25:44pm
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JordanRules  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:30:22pm

re: #373 Bass Reeves

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:40:20pm

re: #314 Mattand

I saw one about 100 yards off in the Poconos while walking the dog. Remy wanted to go see the big weird looking canine, and the damn thing started heading slowly towards us.

I got the dog under control and slowly walked away. Once the bear disappeared into another yard, I called the cops and let them know there was a bear in the area. They were pretty much like “Yeah, flatlander, call us when there’s an actual problem.”

I prefer my bears in zoos, thanks.

We have had to reroute the high school cross country course because of bear sightings. Cut out the woods portion and stick to the open field. Happens in bear country. We have had a couple 300 - 400 lb bear relocated in the last few years when they have decided to reside a little too close to town.

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sagehen  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:49:28pm

re: #330 JordanRules

Uhhh….How would this work?

[Embedded content]

They don’t know either. SMDH

Separate but equal, no doubt.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 3, 2018 • 8:54:58pm

re: #278 Dr. Matt

Nope. Not at all. You sleep with dogs…..you get deported. Adios.

This is a fucked up and frankly misogynistic response. Women often marry men who later turn out to be monsters, it’s not their fault. I have no idea why you feel comfortable blaming the victim for her abuse but it says a lot more about you than her.


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