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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:09:06pm

Depressing but necessary work from Oliver.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:10:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:16:53pm

barf

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:19:08pm

It occurs to me that the reason that some Conservatives have suddenly started being people we can agree with most of the time.

They had Obama Derangement Syndrome, so they said crazy, repellent, things we could never agree with, but now, that’s passed.

They’ve seen what ODS did to their party (whether they know ODS did it or not), making Conservatives betray American values, and it sickened them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:19:40pm
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TedStriker  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:20:25pm

re: #4 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It occurs to me that the reason that some Conservatives have suddenly started being people we can agree with most of the time.

They had Obama Derangement Syndrome, so they said crazy, repellent, things we could never agree with, but now, that’s passed.

They’ve seen what ODS did to their party (whether they know ODS did it or not), making Conservatives betray American values, and it sickened them.

Deeds, not words.

If they’re that repentant, that’s what i want to see from them.

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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:21:38pm

I’ve actually seen the system break down. About a decade ago now, the Riverside County (CA) District Attorney’s office decided to get tough. The office would give assistant DA’s a case file with a take it or leave it plea deal. It was usually pretty draconian. So, what ended up happening was defendants were rejecting these plea offers, and demanding a speedy trial.

As a result, the criminal calendar completely took over the entire Riverside County Superior Court system. If you had a civil case, it was entirely possible that you couldn’t get a trial within the five years that California law requires - in fact, I was defense/appellate counsel on a case that was dismissed because of that rule. It was a complete mess.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:22:35pm

re: #6 TedStriker

Deeds, not words.

If they’re that repentant, that’s what i want to see from them.

They’re speaking out, some even saying the Democrats need to win.
The Trump cult just sees them as traitors to their fascist cause, but reasonably sane Conservatives can see some of their thought-leaders reject Trump. That’s got to help.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:22:46pm

re: #6 TedStriker

Deeds, not words.

If they’re that repentant, that’s what i want to see from them.

There’s nothing “Conservatives” want to “conserve” that I don’t want to get rid of. Screw them all.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:24:32pm

re: #9 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s nothing “Conservatives” want to “conserve” that I don’t want to get rid of. Screw them all.

Including our way of life? That’s what these anti-Trump Conservatives want to conserve.
They’re not down with the progress we’ve made, but they do want to hold onto our way of life.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:25:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:26:20pm

re: #10 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Including our way of life? That’s what these anti-Trump Conservatives want to conserve.
They’re not down with the progress we’ve made, but they do want to hold onto our way of life.

No they don’t want to “preserve our way of life.” They want to preserve their power. They see Trump’s cultists as damaging to their power, just as the GOP saw Nixon in his time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:28:21pm

re: #10 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Including our way of life? That’s what these anti-Trump Conservatives want to conserve.
They’re not down with the progress we’ve made, but they do want to hold onto our way of life.

By “our way of life” they mean absolute, laissez-faire, dog-eat-dog, let-‘em-eat-cake robber-baron Capitalism—for white males who are already rich, of course. All others are to keep their station.

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ozharas  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:29:31pm

2018 headline, Brexit takes us back the 1950’s…

telegraph.co.uk

“Women will have to give up work to look after parents unless EU care workers are given priority after Brexit”

Department of Health warns that dire shortage of health care workers post Brexit, means more family care, means more women giving up work to care for family.

The report states: “The risks to EEA workforce supply need to be considered in the context of continued rising demand across the health and care system.

“Considering rising life expectancy, population structural changes as well as increases in the number of people living with one or more long-term conditions, there are significant demand implications for the health and social care workforce.

“Unless we ensure such demand is met, there is a wider risk to labour market participation more generally, especially when considering increasing social care needs. If we fail to meet social care needs adequately we are likely to see a decrease in labour market participation levels, especially among women, as greater numbers undertake informal care.”

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:29:49pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:30:21pm

re: #13 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

By “our way of life” they mean absolute, laissez-faire, dog-eat-dog, let-‘em-eat-cake robber-baron Capitalism—for white males who are already rich, of course. All others are to keep their station.

Yeah, but it also includes having elections and an executive branch that respects the courts.

They’re our allies in keeping America America, and they can’t roll back the rights we’ve gained as long as they reject Trump. If the whole right goes Trumpist, we have no rights.

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:32:40pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

No they don’t want to “preserve our way of life.” They want to preserve their power. They see Trump’s cultists as damaging to their power, just as the GOP saw Nixon in his time.

They are playing with danger with the Trump base. It is all they have to get elected now, at least for some time. And if they piss off that Trump base they won’t be winning any presidential elections for awhile. The party will be split for some time.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:33:50pm

re: #13 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We’ve come a long way through 2017 with a long way to go. I have little regard for “conservatism” but the trend of history was generally positive. I think too many Democrats took that for granted in 2010 and 2016.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:36:28pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:43:06pm

re: #18 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

We’ve come a long way through 2017 with a long way to go. I have little regard for “conservatism” but the trend of history was generally positive. I think too many Democrats took that for granted in 2010 and 2016.

That’s the big difference. People who had no interest in politics got shaken awake by the Trump disaster. I think we’ll be OK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:45:24pm

COLUMBUS, Ohio—A picture of two Ohioans in matching shirts at a Donald Trump rally last weekend has caught fire on the Internet.

The cleveland.com photo features James T. Alicie and Richard M. Birchfield, two friends from Delaware, Ohio, in T-shirts saying “I’d Rather Be A Russian Than A Democrat” during Trump’s rally in southern Delaware County on Saturday evening.

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Asked about their shirts, Alicie - who did most of the talking - said he didn’t understand why Trump is getting so much criticism about Russia when Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama weren’t similarly scrutinized.

“Russia would be a lot better off being our friend and ally than an enemy,” Alicie said.

Asked what he would tell Democrats, Alicie said, “To jump on board this train and give him a chance.”

To that, Birchfield said: “Amen.”

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:50:05pm
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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:51:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:51:52pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:52:18pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So how come every picture I see of tRump’s core voting bloc—old, white, rural, etc.—always shows somebody with the obvious physiognomy of a lifelong drunk?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:54:29pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not interested in learning more about them. When is the MSM going to interview and get to know Democratic voters?

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:56:12pm

From the previous thread:

re: #39 Kragar

And gaaah:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:56:57pm
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Belafon  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:58:35pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Right? Birth certificate? Bailouts passed by Bush? Stimulus? Obamacare? Benghazi? Syria? bin Laden? Gas prices, too high and too low? Tan suit? Mustard? Vegetables? Golf? Basketball?

Not criticized much at all. //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:59:12pm
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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 6:59:48pm

Version dubbed with “Singing in the Rain” under the tweet too!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:00:08pm

Why does an alleged billionaire need to set up a “donate to me” fund for legal defence of his campaign team?

patriotlegalfund (dot) org

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:00:31pm

re: #29 Belafon

Right? Birth certificate? Bailouts passed by Bush? Stimulus? Obamacare? Benghazi? Syria? bin Laden? Gas prices, too high and too low? Tan suit? Mustard? Vegetables? Golf? Basketball?

Not criticized much at all. //

Missed one. Black.

He wasn’t criticized enough for being Black.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:01:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:01:46pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:03:20pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Missed one. Black.

He wasn’t criticized enough for being Black.

But then as I remember, he wasn’t black enough to suit them, either….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:03:57pm

I was just catching up on MSNBC and amazed at Rosie O’Donnell going off on Ari Melber openly attacking Morning Joke. Amazing that she was able to say that without being cut off. She went all out on a lot of the stenographers!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:06:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:07:37pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

Not interested in learning more about them. When is the MSM going to interview and get to know Democratic voters?

The New York Times hasn’t finished interviewing the Nazi next door to you yet to show you why he’s just like you.

The media is never going to come into “Trump country” and interview Democratic voters.

When the Philadelphia Inquirer ran a piece about a Trump voter in a liberal suburb, the author of the piece asked if there was other articles he could do. I mentioned “how about coming out to Trump country and interviewing Democrats” as no one ever does that.

He didn’t write me back.

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:07:50pm

Lock her up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:08:05pm

my favorite meteor shower

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:10:21pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

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Enter Carter Page.

Of course he has something to do in all of this.

Getting into Roger Stone and his crew territory. Corey Lewandowski too.

The last guys to really be interviewed by Mueller most likely. After the others give up all of the details of how it worked.

Probably some of those guys will be mentioned in Manafort’s trial too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:10:47pm

re: #40 makeitstop

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:10:49pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FFS PUT THAT IN SPOILERS!!!

JFC I’m glad I didn’t eat dinner.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:12:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:13:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:13:51pm

I’m going to log out now you lucky devils.

My wife needs to use the computer and it’s getting dark here. Once she’s done I can plug in the lamp. (Electricity would be nice … like they have in Yukon, sigh… .)

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ObserverArt  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:14:02pm

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But then as I remember, he wasn’t black enough to suit them, either….

Part of the criticism. Obama was everything they wanted to hate. So, yeah too Black, not enough Black and questions if he was Black and not something even more dangerous.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:15:12pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:17:33pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

To be honest, I’m positive that liberals like you have a much harder time in red states than conservatives do in blue states. I’d love to hear your story. I’m sick of the obsession with Trump supporters. There was zero fascination with Obama supporters during his presidency. Wonder why.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:19:42pm
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Belafon  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:20:28pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

Would the QAnon followers believe it if it were true?

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:20:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:24:28pm

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web.archive.org

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Belafon  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:25:34pm

In my email:

Five Dollars

I wonder if I can get Staples to give the coupon to James.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:28:09pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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Why the fuck should a “Good Dem” listen to a Republican hack like Ruffini. They claim we stand for nothing and then cry when we do stand for our principles.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:30:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:30:05pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:31:00pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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A good 2020 Dem would:

1) Support Outlaw charter schools
2) Oppose Support repealing Obamacare (President Obama’s signature domestic achievement) with single payer provider
3) Repeal tariffs but not and return tax cuts rates to 1952 levels

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:38:21pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:40:02pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:40:26pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Plus

4) Get private companies OUT of the prison business
5) Impeach Thomas, Alito and Roberts for corruption
6) Reverse Citizens United
7) Restore the Voting Rights Act
8) Break up Media conglomerates
9) Push for full Public Financing of elections
10) Take reapportionment out of the hands of legislatures and have nonpartisan juries draw legislative boundaries on the Federal, State and local level!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:41:35pm

LAKE FOREST, Calif. (AP) — The Latest on California wildfires (all times local):

7:20 p.m.

Authorities say twin blazes rapidly spreading in Northern California have become the state’s largest wildfire in history.

The fires burning a few miles apart and known as the Mendocino Complex ignited July 27 and encompass an area the size of Los Angeles. It’s the second straight year that California has recorded the state’s largest wildfire.

Officials said Monday that the flames about 100 miles (259 kilometers) north of San Francisco grew to 283,800 acres (443.4 square miles or 1,148.4 square kilometers).

That surpasses a wildfire last year in Southern California that burned 281,893 acres (440.5 square miles or 1,140.8 kilometers). That one killed two people and destroyed more than 1,000 buildings.

The new fire has burned 75 homes. It is mostly burning in remote areas but has forced thousands of people to evacuate.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:41:47pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:49:31pm

re: #62 Joe Bacon 🌹

Plus

4) Get private companies OUT of the prison business
5) Impeach Thomas, Alito and Roberts for corruption
6) Reverse Citizens United
7) Restore the Voting Rights Act
8) Break up Media conglomerates
9) Push for full Public Financing of elections
10) Take reapportionment out of the hands of legislatures and have nonpartisan juries draw legislative boundaries on the Federal, State and local level!

And it’s going to take all of that to get this country back on track. The only way that can happen is if the right is discredited like the left was for 50 years because of the antiwar protests.

Maybe the mass murder sprees that will begin if the Democrats win big in November, or if tRump is impeached, or removed from office, or not reelected (or even nominated) in 2020—I don’t know what the trigger level is—will do the job.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:51:15pm

I sincerely hope this guy gets stomped in tomorrow’s election.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:52:48pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:52:54pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

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The nevertrump Republicans want the Democrats to nominate a Republican. Sorry guys; we’re not going to become Republicans just because the GOP went fascist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:55:15pm

re: #68 Big Beautiful Door

The nevertrump Republicans want the Democrats to nominate a Republican. Sorry guys; we’re not going to become Republicans just because the GOP went fascist.

Exactly. Sorry guys but just because Trump sucks doesn’t mean you don’t stink still:

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:55:40pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I imagine an evening with Ian McKellen would sell out a lot faster than King Lear starring Ian McKellen.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:57:12pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

I sincerely hope this guy gets stomped in tomorrow’s election.

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Yeah I’m tired of this bs. The 2016 platform was plenty progressive. Those people he wants to bring back are assholes who loved Trump’s nativism. No thanks. Gimme the voters who actually are loyal to our party and not a bunch of fickle, easily conned asses:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 7:58:20pm

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:02:17pm

One of those days when I’m wishing I lived on the left coast.
I mean, as long as there were no damn forest fires

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:03:51pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m tired of this bs. The 2016 platform was plenty progressive. Those people he wants to bring back are assholes who loved Trump’s nativism. No thanks. Gimme the voters who actually are loyal to our party and not a bunch of fickle, easily conned asses:

I don’t believe those people actually exist. Anybody who says they voted for Obama and then tRump is lying. 67 million people voted for Obama in 2008. A small percentage of them were fatigued into staying home in 2016 by an endless flood of lying propaganda. That’s the whole story right there. And…Hillary still won the election.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:06:20pm

re: #74 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t believe those people actually exist. Anybody who says they voted for Obama and then tRump is lying. 67 million people voted for Obama in 2008. A small percentage of them were fatigued into staying home in 2016 by an endless flood of lying propaganda. That’s the whole story right there. And…Hillary still won the election.

I don’t either tbh. I’m just tired of so called progressives lying about the direction the party has gone. It’s a much more economic lefty party than the one that many WWC voted for with Bill Clinton st the top of the ticket.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:11:03pm

The Democratic candidate of the past fifty years that did the best among working class whites was Jimmy Carter who was also quite fiscally conservative. No slight to Carter but he was not a lefty on economics. A good man of course.

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calochortus  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:13:06pm

re: #74 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I don’t believe those people actually exist. Anybody who says they voted for Obama and then tRump is lying. 67 million people voted for Obama in 2008. A small percentage of them were fatigued into staying home in 2016 by an endless flood of lying propaganda. That’s the whole story right there. And…Hillary still won the election.

Oh, there are bound to be a few of them, but not a significant number. I’m sure there are people who thought Obama was going to make this into a liberal paradise, and when he didn’t figured “It can’t get any worse. I’ll just gamble on an outsider who says he can fix it so I can get a job that will let me pay off my student loans.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:13:34pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

I don’t either tbh. I’m just tired of so called progressives lying about the direction the party has gone. It’s a much more economic lefty party than the one that many WWC voted for with Bill Clinton st the top of the ticket.

I’m sick of the Clinton bashing. I started working for the Federal Government as a Stay in Schooler when Ford was in the White House. So I’ve served under 8 Presidents and only two of them—Old Man Bush and Clinton really acted on behalf of civil servants. Old Man Bush signed the Pay Equity act which was supposed to bring Federal workers into pay equity with the Private Sector and Bill Clinton cleaned out the corruption in the upper management of Social Security. Bill Clinton ordered an OPM audit of Social Security that led to upgrades and increased pay for SSA workers and he reversed the draconian staff cuts Reagan imposed on the agency.

Whenever the Maureen Dowd types print their snide attacks on the Clintons, it makes my blood boil. And the way they trashed Hillary—she ought to have been able to sue those liars for libel and drain every last penny from them…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:20:50pm

re: #78 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m sick of the Clinton bashing. I started working for the Federal Government as a Stay in Schooler when Ford was in the White House. So I’ve served under 8 Presidents and only two of them—Old Man Bush and Clinton really acted on behalf of civil servants. Old Man Bush signed the Pay Equity act which was supposed to bring Federal workers into pay equity with the Private Sector and Bill Clinton cleaned out the corruption in the upper management of Social Security. Bill Clinton ordered an OPM audit of Social Security that led to upgrades and increased pay for SSA workers and he reversed the draconian staff cuts Reagan imposed on the agency.

Whenever the Maureen Dowd types print their snide attacks on the Clintons, it makes my blood boil. And the way they trashed Hillary—she ought to have been able to sue those liars for libel and drain every last penny from them…

I hear ya. I’m tired of purer than thou who have no idea how to govern.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:22:57pm

There was a godawful hailstorm in Colorado Springs today. Some animals were killed and several people injured at the Cheyenne Mountain zoo.
amp.miamiherald.com
I talked to my brother in the Springs about it. He said he is amazed by the violent turn the weather has taken there the last few years. There have been several severe hailstorms, hurricane force winds and the like. “It’s a big change, for sure,” he says, ” I don’t know what’s going on.” He remains firmly convinced, though, that climate change is a politically motivated hoax.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:30:24pm

I’m sure this has been mentioned already, but Twitler has endorsed the fascist candidate for Governor of Kansas.

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fern01  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:30:41pm

re: #14 ozharas

2018 headline, Brexit takes us back the 1950’s…

telegraph.co.uk

“Women will have to give up work to look after parents unless EU care workers are given priority after Brexit”

Department of Health warns that dire shortage of health care workers post Brexit, means more family care, means more women giving up work to care for family.

Maybe a few men could change careers and do some looking after parents. Whenever there is a problem in this world - the men always look towards women to solve it.

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makeitstop  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:31:11pm

A really good op-ed by one of the old lions of Watergate - and actual Saturday Night Massacre victim - Bill Ruckleshaus: “I’ve only seen one other president act so desperate.”

washingtonpost.com.

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calochortus  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:32:40pm

re: #82 fern01

Maybe a few men could change careers and do some looking after parents. Whenever there is a problem in this world - the men always look towards women to solve it.

Hey, they’re busy doing “important stuff”…

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Kragar  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:34:35pm
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Romantic Heretic  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:35:32pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

No. Paul would show himself a real man if he told tovarisch Slutsky to go fuck himself.

Not holding my breath.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:35:48pm

re: #83 makeitstop

A really good op-ed by one of the old lions of Watergate - and actual Saturday Night Massacre victim - Bill Ruckleshaus: “I’ve only seen one other president act so desperate.”

washingtonpost.com.

Not too many people left from the Nixon administration so it’s great to get Ruckelshaus’ perspective on this.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:37:17pm

re: #85 Kragar

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I could understand GWB far better than Trump and I was and still am a huge critic of Bush.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:41:46pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

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And the very first reply says all that needs to be said—Lauren Duca.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:45:58pm

re: #89 BeachDem

And the very first reply says all that needs to be said—Lauren Duca.

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Most racist candidate since Wallace. FO Chris.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:51:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:54:15pm

re: #91 jaunte

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These bastards need to rot.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 8:59:24pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

It seems a lot of people knew a lot of stuff they aren’t yet willing to talk about.

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gocart mozart  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:00:50pm
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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:01:20pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:01:25pm
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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:06:46pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:08:12pm
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Belafon  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:11:29pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:12:44pm

re: #95 jaunte

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And this is interesting:

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:15:08pm

re: #100 BeachDem

An ongoing investigation by McClatchy and its reporting partners has shown that the developer, Bayrock Group, which partnered with the Trump Organization on at least three projects in the mid-2000s, was in business with the Khrapunov family

Is must be parody written by Moose and Squirrel.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:16:32pm

This is enough. We all have had Khrapunov.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:16:58pm

re: #99 Belafon

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Grrrr!!!
This type of thing pisses me off so much. It’s a pattern with Bernie and the media. They work hand-in-hand at it and each party knows and continues to do it because they can.

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jaunte  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:18:00pm
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MsJ  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:19:45pm
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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:26:08pm

re: #101 jaunte

Is must be parody written by Moose and Squirrel.

During the years that Bayrock and Trump did deals together, the company was also a bridge between murky European funding and a number of projects in the U.S. to which the president once lent his name in exchange for handsome fees…Trump testified under oath in a 2007 deposition that Bayrock brought Russian investors to his Trump Tower office to discuss deals in Moscow, and said he was pondering investing there.

Trump has said over the years that he barely knows Sater. In fact, Sater — who former Bayrock employees say met frequently with Trump in the Trump Organization’s New York headquarters, once shepherded the president’s children around Moscow and carried a Trump Organization business card — apparently has remained firmly in the orbit of the president and his closest advisers.

bloomberg.com

Felix Sater—just another coffee boy in the yam world.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:26:30pm

re: #105 MsJ

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Hate is a hell of a drug.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:29:32pm
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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:30:17pm
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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:33:07pm

re: #95 jaunte

White Collar Crime: insider trading; ponzi schemes; fraud.

Organized Crime: money laundering; protection rackets; drug dealing.

Just a couple of examples for those who need a scorecard at home.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:35:12pm

re: #110 KGxvi

White Collar Crime: insider trading; ponzi schemes; fraud.

Organized Crime: money laundering; protection rackets; drug dealing.

Just a couple of examples for those who need a scorecard at home.

And Trump has engaged in both.

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BeachDem  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:36:16pm

re: #109 JordanRules

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It probably won’t happen, but I love that it will piss him off royally.

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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:36:34pm

re: #111 Big Beautiful Door

And Trump has engaged in both.

He’s also probably engaged in some blue collar crime, too, if we’re being realistic.

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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:37:40pm

re: #113 KGxvi

He’s also probably engaged in some blue collar crime, too, if we’re being realistic.

And some light treason.

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KGxvi  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:37:51pm

re: #112 BeachDem

It probably won’t happen, but I love that it will piss him off royally.

Eh, the walk of fame is basically this thing you pay for and the chamber of commerce gives you one - kinda like a golden globe. But if it’s going to get destroyed every couple of weeks, I can see them saying “screw it.”

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:41:02pm

re: #115 KGxvi

Eh, the walk of fame is basically this thing you pay for and the chamber of commerce gives you one - kinda like a golden globe. But if it’s going to get destroyed every couple of weeks, I can see them saying “screw it.”

And I love how some people are like…well remove Bill Cosby’s and Kevin Spacey’s too.
Yes, absolutely. Let’s do it!

…. as if we’d have a problem with that. Idiots.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:42:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 9:56:47pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:02:38pm

Idiot calls me a snowflake on Twitter when I posted about my son.

Complain to Twitter on the long form…they don’t lift a finger as usual…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:05:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:20:09pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

T-minus 12 and counting

Max Q

Vroom, no boom

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fern01  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:20:50pm

re: #99 Belafon

Bernie Sanders is leading the charge to reform cash bail

Another white guy taking the kudos for what someone else did. Why am I not surprised.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:21:45pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Max Q

Vroom, no boom

MECO, stage separation, stage 2 engine ignition

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:27:24pm

Lost video… clearly a cover-up.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:27:36pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

MECO, stage separation, stage 2 engine ignition

Booster landed successfully!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:27:50pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

MECO, stage separation, stage 2 engine ignition

Stage 1 on the boat.

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mmmirele  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:28:58pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Stage 1 on the boat.

That was worth staying up for. Hopefully there will be some video of the landing when I wake up in the morning!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:31:05pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Stage 1 on the boat.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:34:22pm

Jesus Christ this article!

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:37:03pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:38:03pm

re: #129 goddamnedfrank

Jesus Christ this article!

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Though they may just all starve, since the UK imports a lot of its food. But never fear; there are plans to stockpile food to see them through the shortages!

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:41:30pm
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DodgerFan1988  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:42:47pm
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freetoken  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:51:17pm

Noticing that various news outlets are calling out Trump’s errors in their headlines:

What Trump is getting wrong about California’s wildfires and water

In one tweet, Trump confuses everything about California bushfires

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2018 • 10:59:38pm

As if any more evidence was needed that fundamentalism is hurting America:

“Doing the Lord’s Work” Heartland Institute Gathers Climate Deniers For America First Energy Conference

[…]

“It’s hard not to concede that coal hasn’t been put on Earth and other fossil fuels as part of a divine plan,” Palmer has told DeSmog.

In July 2018, Palmer gave a speech to the Western Conservative Summit in Colorado. In audio obtained by DeSmog, Palmer says of Heartland’s efforts on climate change: “We are, I know, doing the Lord’s work.”

[…]

Note that Heartland is specifically titling this conference with “America First”, in a direct appeal to Trump marks’ religio-nationalism.

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gwangung  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:03:16pm

re: #135 freetoken

As if any more evidence was needed that fundamentalism is hurting America:

“Doing the Lord’s Work” Heartland Institute Gathers Climate Deniers For America First Energy Conference

Note that Heartland is specifically titling this conference with “America First”, in a direct appeal to Trump marks’ religio-nationalism.

This is the same institute that denied cigarettes caused cancer in the 1960s.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:03:25pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:09:16pm

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freetoken  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:19:07pm

Ethno-nationalism down under:

Australia’s population to hit 25 million for first time

Australia’s population will reach 25 million for the first time on Tuesday, according to official estimates.

The milestone, driven significantly by migration, has magnified debate about the merits of a “big or little” Australia, and congestion in cities.

The most contentious aspect has been migration: is it growing too fast, or will it continue to benefit the nation?

[…]

The debate is all about the fact that the immigration balance has now shifted towards Asia being the dominant source of immigrants, not Europe.

Excuses by those who want to metaphorically build a wall between Australia and Asia is that the cost of housing is too high, yada yada yada.

But as the article points out, traffic congestion and high housing prices are all the result of everyone wanting to live in the same few spots in the whole continent.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:19:17pm

re: #130 JordanRules

“The riverside sign has been a frequent target because of its isolation, Weems thinks. It’s 10 minutes outside town and two miles down a gravel road.

Vandalizing the sign, then, is not some spontaneous act. One has to really want to shoot it, Weems said.”

Fucking racist assholes.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:29:15pm
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BigPapa  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:35:39pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

Nasty. Unreal.

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:37:02pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

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Everybody feeling froggy because we can be sidelined with a quick bribe.
What a mess!

This thread…

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JordanRules  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:38:22pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 6, 2018 • 11:54:46pm

re: #144 JordanRules

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You’re never too old to rock.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:02:59am

Poor sap probably thinks his side has all guns and Trump will expose the fake Moon landings.

Facebook Post

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:07:10am

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:07:39am

re: #139 freetoken

Ethno-nationalism down under:

Australia’s population to hit 25 million for first time

The debate is all about the fact that the immigration balance has now shifted towards Asia being the dominant source of immigrants, not Europe.

Excuses by those who want to metaphorically build a wall between Australia and Asia is that the cost of housing is too high, yada yada yada.

But as the article points out, traffic congestion and high housing prices are all the result of everyone wanting to live in the same few spots in the whole continent.

To be fair, there’s really not a whole lot of other places to live in Australia aside from those same few spots. I mean, personally, I certainly wouldn’t want to live in the interior of the Australian continent, but that’s just me. Your mileage may vary.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:10:21am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Poor sap probably thinks his side has all guns and Trump will expose the fake Moon landings.

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I can assure you that if the Democrat wins the Ohio special election, the cries of VOTER FRAUD! ILLEGITIMATE ELECTION!! will be deafening.

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freetoken  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:10:55am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

A large portion of the coast is minimally inhabited. Everyone just piles into Sydney and Melbourne.

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BigPapa  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:11:29am

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:12:59am

re: #145 Targetpractice

You’re never too old to rock.

Damn right and now maybe the nursing homes will provide better entertainment.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:15:20am

re: #151 BigPapa

Heh.

Like 50 Shades of Grey read by Gilbert Gottfried.

Might be somewhat NSFW so in a spoiler tag. But funny as hell.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:19:25am
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:25:34am
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:36:43am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:11:51am

Spotted in the Atlanta, GA area:

Car Nutz is a carwash in Acworth, GA, north of Atlanta.

The madness has gone mainstream.

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Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:19:22am

re: #155 JordanRules

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And then will bitch and moan that they have to cough up even that much, asserting that the DNC should just knuckle under and vote for him in the name of “bipartisanship.”

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:23:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:31:50am

re: #159 Targetpractice

And then will bitch and moan that they have to cough up even that much, asserting that the DNC should just knuckle under and vote for him in the name of “bipartisanship.”

They should be just as bipartisan as the GOP was over Merrick Garland

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A Mom Anon  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:39:42am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:46:44am

re: #162 A Mom Anon

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A Mom Anon  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:55:26am

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fern01  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:59:25am

re: #132 JordanRules

Londoners with jobs are lining up for food handouts

trump should be pleased - England is turning into a smaller version of the USA

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 1:59:52am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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fern01  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:00:31am

re: #134 freetoken

Noticing that various news outlets are calling out Trump’s errors in their headlines:

What Trump is getting wrong about California’s wildfires and water

In one tweet, Trump confuses everything about California bushfires

And if they’d called him out during the election, they wouldn’t have to listen to his stupidity now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:00:50am

re: #165 fern01

trump should be pleased - England is turning into a smaller version of the USA

Friend of mine in London has taken up with the Hare Krishnas (she is not terribly spiritual, she just enjoys the fellowship) and providing free meals to Londoners.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:03:54am

My wife and I were shopping in our little town here on the south Oregon coast today (my days run into the next day!) and had an interesting conversation with an employee at one of the places we stopped at while out. We only know the employee through our visits to the business and we’ve never talked politics or anything of the like with her in the past, just small talk and the business at hand. I asked her how her day was going and she responded with “Much better than yesterday.” I asked what was so bad about yesterday and she proceeded to tell us about a man who came into the store with his wife to shop and while doing so, out of the blue he started going off about black people. She told us that he told her that “All ni—ers are criminals” and that she said “So you’ve met them all?” She said that she asked him that because it was the only thing that came to her mind at that moment. She didn’t tell us if he answered her as she was telling us that what he had said absolutely shocked her. She said he was foul-mouthed and used lots of racist slurs while mouthing off about other crap that he was pissed about.

My wife and I both expressed our disgust along with myself stating “Well, look who is our President.” When I said that she said that the man had told her that he was a Trump supporter, which came as no surprise to us. I told her that some conservatives suffer from what I call “Conservative Tourette’s” where they blurt out racist, misogynistic or whatever crap at inappropriate times/places and that some require no alcohol at all. She told us that the guy’s wife apologized to her, telling her that her husband had been drinking earlier that day. As the employee said, and we agreed; alcohol didn’t make him say what he did, it just lowered his inhibitions. She told us that she had to go in to the back room for a few minutes after the guy and his wife left because she was crying.

She went on to tell us that her sister voted for Trump and what really kills her is that they are Native Americans. She said that she recently asked her sister if she thinks Trump is doing fine and her sister said that he’s doing a good job. The lady told us that she wanted to grab her sister, shake her and ask her what exactly has he ever done that has been good. We talked a bit more as we were the only customers there at the time before leaving. She thanked us for listening to her and agreeing what the man did was horrible.

I was brought up with good manners and to think of others, as was my wife. Our children have been brought up to think the same way. When we are out in public we use good manners, are polite to others and look to have a good time. I can’t even imagine the embarrassment that man put his wife through at that store, it must have been absolutely horrible for her. I have never put my wife in that position, nor would I ever.

But then I’m not a drunken racist Trump supporter.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:04:00am
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fern01  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:06:34am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

To be fair, there’s really not a whole lot of other places to live in Australia aside from those same few spots. I mean, personally, I certainly wouldn’t want to live in the interior of the Australian continent, but that’s just me. Your mileage may vary.

I wouldn’t want to live in the Simpson Desert either, nor would I want to live in Bourke - but there are some wonderful places throughout Australia that are not Sydney and Melbourne. The coastal regions of all the Eastern states are dog’s own country every day of every year.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:09:59am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:17:03am

re: #172 A Mom Anon

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:17:57am

re: #171 fern01

I wouldn’t want to live in the Simpson Desert either, nor would I want to live in Bourke - but there are some wonderful places throughout Australia that are not Sydney and Melbourne. The coastal regions of all the Eastern states are dog’s own country every day of every year.

Sounds like everyone who moves to Australia - regardless of where in the world they come from - seems to be under the impression that no other cities outside of Melbourne and Sydney exist. ///

I don’t know why, but for some reason, I’ve always wanted to go to Wallaroo. Maybe it’s the name of the place or something. Like Znojmo (pronounced “znoymoh”).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:22:54am

Friend of ours is from Wagga-Wagga, “Wagga” being aboriginal for “crow” and “Wagga-Wagga” then meaning “many crows”.

So what is “Wagga-Wagga-Wagga-Wagga-Wagga” in Aboriginal?

-Murder!!!

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Alephnaught  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:25:46am

re: #49 The Vicious Babushka

Oh my goodness, that would be so funny if the whole QAnon thing was cribbed from a 1999 novel by a collective of left-wing anarchists operating under the pseudonym “Luther Blisset”, someone who just happens to be a black UK footballer.

Here’s a thread from the Luther Blisset Project people, who are now operating under the name “Wu Ming” (ie “no name”). You can download the novel “Q” from their site here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:31:38am

re: #177 Alephnaught

Oh my goodness, that would be so funny if the whole QAnon thing was cribbed from a 1999 novel by a collective of left-wing anarchists operating under the pseudonym “Luther Blisset”, of someone who just happens to be a black UK footballer.

Performance art

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:37:11am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:45:58am

re: #177 Alephnaught

I’d never heard of that novel until it was brought to my attention in recent days. Apparently, it’s fairly obscure, at least in the US - and that’s the perfect thing to use for some trolling/shitposting.

If that really does end up being behind all this, man, I wonder how the QAnon Qultists are gonna feel. Will they have a meltdown? Will they doubledown and insist, “No, it’s totally real! We’re too smart to be trolled!!” Will they just quietly walk away, feeling stupid? I’ve seen postings from these loons that indicate they’ve alienated family and friends over this shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:48:24am

Got a BBC breaking news alert - Trump says that “anyone doing business with Iran won’t be doing business with the U.S.”

Meanwhile, the EU is planning on working around the US sanctions imposed on Iran - and Turkey certainly is, and I’d presume, China and Russia.

Great……Trump’s now destroying US soft power. Fucking incompetent buffoon.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:50:10am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

I should’ve added that the UK agrees with the EU on this matter, despite Brexit.

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Alephnaught  Aug 7, 2018 • 2:55:41am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

Got a BBC breaking news alert - Trump says that “anyone doing business with Iran won’t be doing business with the U.S.”

Meanwhile, the EU is planning on working around the US sanctions imposed on Iran - and Turkey certainly is, and I’d presume, China and Russia.

Great……Trump’s now destroying US soft power. Fucking incompetent buffoon.

Here’s the tweet:

“WORLD PEACE” my arse.

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Lupin  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:01:18am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

Got a BBC breaking news alert - Trump says that “anyone doing business with Iran won’t be doing business with the U.S.”

Meanwhile, the EU is planning on working around the US sanctions imposed on Iran - and Turkey certainly is, and I’d presume, China and Russia.

Great……Trump’s now destroying US soft power. Fucking incompetent buffoon.

And more…

European firms have been instructed that they should not comply with demands from the White House for them to drop all business with Iran. Those who decide to pull out because of US sanctions will need to be granted authorisation from the European commission, without which they face the risk of being sued by EU member states.

A mechanism has also been opened to allow EU businesses affected by the sanctions to sue the US administration in the national courts of member states.

source The Guardian

I would need to research this, but I suspect that in a tit-for-tat, the US is far more vulnerable to EU sanction/lawsuits (in terms of American assets located in Europe) than Europeans are in the US. Bring it on!

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Lupin  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:04:39am
A domino-like cascade of melting ice, warming seas, shifting currents and dying forests could tilt the Earth into a “hothouse” state beyond which human efforts to reduce emissions will be increasingly futile, a group of leading climate scientists has warned.

The Guardian

Mark my words: someday there’ll be a Nuremberg trial for the so-called climate change skeptics. And the US will feature largely in it.

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Lupin  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:06:52am

Brexit banzai:

Farmers’ union says [food] supply would dry up by August 2019 if Britain has to be self-sufficient

The Guardian

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:09:37am

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

Got a BBC breaking news alert - Trump says that “anyone doing business with Iran won’t be doing business with the U.S.”

Meanwhile, the EU is planning on working around the US sanctions imposed on Iran - and Turkey certainly is, and I’d presume, China and Russia.

Great……Trump’s now destroying US soft power. Fucking incompetent buffoon.

My inner pessimist tells me that this will be the end of the US Dollar as the World Reserve Currency and once that collapses, the US will lose its ability to finance deficits by selling T-bills and have no choice but to go to war.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:16:22am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My inner pessimist tells me that this will be the end of the US Dollar as the World Reserve Currency and once that collapses, the US will lose its ability to finance deficits by selling T-bills and have no choice but to go to war.

What are the odds on the Euro becoming the world’s reserve currency? Honestly, I can’t see that happening with the Ruble (LOLOL) or the Chinese Yuan (well, more than the Ruble, that’s for sure). It sure as hell ain’t gonna be the Turkish Lira, which is headed down the crapper.

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Lupin  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:19:09am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My inner pessimist tells me that this will be the end of the US Dollar as the World Reserve Currency and once that collapses, the US will lose its ability to finance deficits by selling T-bills and have no choice but to go to war.

How about a basket of reserve currencies instead? More complicated, no doubt; large fluxes, tricky period ahead…

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:31:18am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:33:29am

re: #183 Alephnaught

All because Obama. Nothing more. Just Obama.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:37:49am

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:43:22am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:46:45am

re: #189 Lupin

How about a basket of reserve currencies instead? More complicated, no doubt; large fluxes, tricky period ahead…

I am sure there are people working on this issue as we speak, including China and Saudi Arabia, two of the largest holders of T-Bills.

Trump basically threatened to just default on T-bills and walk away from them for cents on the dollar, which is how he has done business to date and that offhand remark already sent people into planning because they have learned to take him a lot more literally and seriously than most of his supporters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:47:40am

re: #190 Dave In Austin

Trump’s political base is weaker than it seems, our new study finds

I think that Helsinki pissed off a lot of them and the tariff war is also not making them any more enthusiastic.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:49:07am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that Helsinki pissed off a lot of them and the tariff war is also not making them any more enthusiastic.

But imagine losing 1/3 of the Crazification Factor!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 3:53:32am

re: #196 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

But imagine losing 1/3 of the Crazification Factor!

He has not lost them but there was a time when they could be counted on to get out and vote to a man/woman. I think a lot of them have lost their enthusiasm.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:01:13am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:07:00am

re: #197 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has not lost them but there was a time when they could be counted on to get out and vote to a man/woman. I think a lot of them have lost their enthusiasm.

Could we see an Enthusiasm Reversal™ in November? If only we could keep it going until 2020!

When I thought Hillary was going to win in 2016, I expected another 2010 in 2020, just in time for redistricting. The last two years seem like a helluva price to pay to avoid that, but I’ll take what I can get.

(Spell check accepts “helluva”?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:07:53am

re: #199 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

(Spell check accepts “helluva”?)

you gotta be kidding, I’m gonna check…

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fern01  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:12:42am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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fern01  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:21:33am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like everyone who moves to Australia - regardless of where in the world they come from - seems to be under the impression that no other cities outside of Melbourne and Sydney exist. ///

I don’t know why, but for some reason, I’ve always wanted to go to Wallaroo. Maybe it’s the name of the place or something. Like Znojmo (pronounced “znoymoh”).

I’ve never felt the desire to live in Wallaroo - although it is in an interesting part of the country. I spent some time in Whyalla which is across the gulf. At the time it was a steel plant town - everything was owned and managed by the company - but it was a friendly town & I enjoyed being there. I’ve lived mainly on the East Coast which is similar to climate & style of California.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:38:59am
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jeffreyw  Aug 7, 2018 • 4:57:24am

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Good morning!

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:05:10am

re: #154 JordanRules

That was a phenomenal story, sad and uplifting and infuriating. Thank you.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:22:37am

re: #190 Dave In Austin

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Yet, most will dutifully pull the lever for Trump (or equally horrible Trump-like candidates down ballot) in ‘18 and ‘20.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:23:50am

re: #206 Mike Lamb

Yet, most will dutifully pull the lever for Trump (or equally horrible Trump-like candidates down ballot) in ‘18 and ‘20.

because Demo candidate will be such an abomination and threat to America. But the hope is that they will not come out in such strong numbers: last time they were out nearly to a man/woman at the polls. Let’s hope that waning enthusiasm will keep more of them home.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:32:11am

re: #77 calochortus

Oh, there are bound to be a few of them, but not a significant number. I’m sure there are people who thought Obama was going to make this into a liberal paradise, and when he didn’t figured “It can’t get any worse. I’ll just gamble on an outsider who says he can fix it so I can get a job that will let me pay off my student loans.”

and now we see what happens when a failed real estate agent is elected president

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Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:45:30am

Scott Walker raises six times more than Democratic frontrunner Tony Evers ahead of Aug. 14 primary

Gov. Scott Walker raised more than six times what Democratic frontrunner Tony Evers pulled in ahead of an Aug. 14 primary election, but the two-term incumbent Republican’s July total is about half of what he raised during the same period four years ago.

Evers, the state schools superintendent who has a commanding lead in recent polling over seven other Democrats seeking to challenge Walker, raised $109,445 in July and has about $158,000 in cash, according to campaign finance reports filed Monday.

Walker raised more than $670,000 in July, according to the report he filed Monday. That brings to more than $6.1 million the amount he has raised so far this year.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:46:30am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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wheat-dogg  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:49:09am

re: #203 Patricia Kayden

Interesting. It’s the same MO as the bot net in the US: profiles featuring attractive young women with all the appropriate RW attributes. IOW they are targeting the key RW demographic: men who are getting older and seeing their way of life (or prospects of future success) and chances of bedding hot young women ebbing away.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:50:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:50:11am

re: #211 wheat-dogg

Interesting. It’s the same MO as the bot net in the US: profiles featuring attractive young women with all the appropriate RW attributes. IOW they are targeting the key RW demographic: men who are getting older and seeing their way of life (or prospects of future success) and chances of bedding hot young women ebbing away.

men who still have a three-year-old in their trousers

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:50:14am

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, OK.

////

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wheat-dogg  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:52:19am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

men who still have a three 13-year-old in their trousers

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:52:57am

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

Spotted in the Atlanta, GA area:

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Car Nutz is a carwash in Acworth, GA, north of Atlanta.

The madness has gone mainstream.

The madness has gone billboard. If that’s defined as mainstream, then the NRA is closing soon because Maddow’s group spent some money on a billboard here in Texas.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:53:17am

re: #173 Dave In Austin

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:53:26am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:54:16am

re: #204 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Busy nite it was

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:56:49am

re: #219 Dave In Austin

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:57:17am

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

I’m sure this has been mentioned already, but Twitler has endorsed the fascist candidate for Governor of Kansas.

Do I understand correctly that Kobach is running against the incumbent governor of his own party?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:57:53am

re: #89 BeachDem

And the very first reply says all that needs to be said—Lauren Duca.

I sure do loves me some Lauren Duca.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:59:39am
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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 5:59:59am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

men who still have a three-year-old in their trousers

That could make it difficult to sit down.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:00:17am

re: #221 Sir John Barron

Do I understand correctly that Kobach is running against the incumbent governor of his own party?

I think he’s term limited out but there’s a competitive primary due to Brownback fatigue.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:00:39am

re: #135 freetoken

As if any more evidence was needed that fundamentalism is hurting America:

“Doing the Lord’s Work” Heartland Institute Gathers Climate Deniers For America First Energy Conference

Note that Heartland is specifically titling this conference with “America First”, in a direct appeal to Trump marks’ religio-nationalism.

So was natural gas and wind. And the moon was put in place to create the tides.

If you’re going to believe in a God, believe in a God.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:01:33am

re: #221 Sir John Barron

I find the whole “strong on borders” thing to be a bit odd for KANSAS. I mean, is there a goddamn flood of refugees fleeing fucking Oklahoma?

I mean, if I lived in Oklahoma I’d be trying to escape, but not to Kansas…

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:03:37am

re: #216 Belafon

The madness has gone billboard. If that’s defined as mainstream, then the NRA is closing soon because Maddow’s group spent some money on a billboard here in Texas.

To a degree it has, what with them showing up at Trump’s ego therapy rally last week.

I’m hoping like hell that Buzzfeed’s story about it being a massive left-wing troll job is true. I’d really enjoy rubbing a few people’s noses in their own gullibility.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:04:34am

re: #227 Sufficient unto the day…

I find the whole “strong on borders” thing to be a bit odd for KANSAS. I mean, is there a goddamn flood of refugees fleeing fucking Oklahoma?

I mean, if I lived in Oklahoma I’d be trying to escape, but not to Kansas…

Don’t overrread It, I’ve noticed that Trump offers the same praise for his candidates: X is tough on the border and crime and great for our vets, military, & second amendment while Y is weak on the border and crime and bad for vets, military, & second amendment. It’s like that in every state even those like KS who are quite far from international borders.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:04:48am

re: #144 JordanRules

I wish people would stop making fun of Rob Halford and Ozzie Osbourne.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:05:19am

I’m having a hard time connecting to some news sites. Does this link work?

sunherald.com

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:06:02am

re: #227 Sufficient unto the day…

I find the whole “strong on borders” thing to be a bit odd for KANSAS. I mean, is there a goddamn flood of refugees fleeing fucking Oklahoma?

I mean, if I lived in Oklahoma I’d be trying to escape, but not to Kansas…

Maybe that’s what he means by strong borders in KS.

/

I actually like KS, hope they avoid Kobach like the plague.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:06:07am

re: #230 Sir John Barron

I wish people would stop making fun of Rob Halford and Ozzie Osbourne.

That’s what my wife said, only she believes one of them was Klaus from Scorpions.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:06:20am

re: #177 Alephnaught

Oh my goodness, that would be so funny if the whole QAnon thing was cribbed from a 1999 novel by a collective of left-wing anarchists operating under the pseudonym “Luther Blisset”, someone who just happens to be a black UK footballer.

“If you won’t stand for something, you’ll fall for anything.”

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:07:28am

Was Dave in Austin’s #173 about Teleskiguy???

Am I misunderstanding he may be in a real bad way???

There doesn’t seem to be any concern…am I wrong about the message?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:08:25am

re: #183 Alephnaught

The Iran sanctions have officially been cast. These are the most biting sanctions ever imposed, and in November they ratchet up to yet another level. Anyone doing business with Iran will NOT be doing business with the United States. I am asking for WORLD PEACE, nothing less!

— Donald J. Trump

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

//

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:11:21am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

//

He means white people peace.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:11:23am

re: #228 makeitstop

To a degree it has, what with them showing up at Trump’s ego therapy rally last week.

I’m hoping like hell that Buzzfeed’s story about it being a massive left-wing troll job is true. I’d really enjoy rubbing a few people’s noses in their own gullibility.

They would never believe it. Nothing will dissuade them from their beliefs.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:12:03am

re: #231 Amory Blaine

I’m having a hard time connecting to some news sites. Does this link work?

sunherald.com

Yup. It opened in record time, too.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:12:57am

re: #169 Odie Hugh Manatee

I saw where Portland has been subjected to some White Power rallies and counter-protests recently, feel bad for the regular folk there having to put up with that.

But I worry there’s a lot more of that to come.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:13:55am

Since I do not have a twitter account I did a google search and found teleskiguy’s twitter account. He needs help. He is talking about wishing he was dead but can’t do it, etc.

And no one here seems to even want to comment on it.

What the hell is going on? We need to see if we can get him help.

Arrrgh!!!!

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:15:30am

re: #235 ObserverArt

Was Dave in Austin’s #173 about Teleskiguy???

Am I misunderstanding he may be in a real bad way???

There doesn’t seem to be any concern…am I wrong about the message?

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lizardofid  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:17:20am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:17:33am

Does Teleskiguy live in Gypsum Colorado???

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:19:08am

re: #244 ObserverArt

Does Teleskiguy live in Gypsum Colorado???

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Jay C  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:19:28am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

re: #227 Sufficient unto the day…

I find the whole “strong on borders” thing to be a bit odd for KANSAS. I mean, is there a goddamn flood of refugees fleeing fucking Oklahoma?

I mean, if I lived in Oklahoma I’d be trying to escape, but not to Kansas…

Don’t overread It, I’ve noticed that Trump offers the same praise for his candidates: X is tough on the border and crime and great for our vets, military, & second amendment while Y is weak on the border and crime and bad for vets, military, & second amendment. It’s like that in every state even those like KS who are quite far from international borders.

Agree on the “overread[ing]” part: AFAICT, coming from Republicans (and especially Trump), “strong borders” , etc. is just (like most all of their anti-immigration rhetoric) dogwhistle for “keep those grubby little brown people out of “our” country”. A message which they figure will resonate in a lot of areas, “borders” or not.

And yeah, reading those Trump-tweet endorsements? What a surprise* that they’re mostly all basically one trite formula. Maybe someone on the WH staff suggested a KISS template for the Moron-in-Chief?

*not

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:19:47am

re: #242 MsJ

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:20:21am

re: #235 ObserverArt

Sounds like Dave contacted Twitter. I’m not sure any of us have his direct contact information or live close by.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:20:22am

re: #247 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:23:22am

re: #248 Sir John Barron

Sounds like Dave contacted Twitter. I’m not sure any of us have his direct contact information or live close by.

I’m trying to find where he lives so I can contact some sort of mental health service in his area.

I am worried about him. I know he can be irascible, but that may be part of all that troubles him. I had a friend like him…I don’t have that friend anymore because he did what skiguy is threatening.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:23:52am

re: #235 ObserverArt

Was Dave in Austin’s #173 about Teleskiguy???

Am I misunderstanding he may be in a real bad way???

There doesn’t seem to be any concern…am I wrong about the message?

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:24:10am

re: #241 ObserverArt

Since I do not have a twitter account I did a google search and found teleskiguy’s twitter account. He needs help. He is talking about wishing he was dead but can’t do it, etc.

And no one here seems to even want to comment on it.

What the hell is going on? We need to see if we can get him help.

Arrrgh!!!!

I rarely go to Twitter, but I just asked him to come back here, I am @splendid.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:24:39am

re: #249 MsJ

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:24:57am

re: #250 ObserverArt

I’m trying to find where he lives so I can contact some sort of mental health service in his area.

I am worried about him. I know he can be irascible, but that may be part of all that troubles him. I had a friend like him…I don’t have that friend anymore because he did what skiguy is threatening.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:25:31am

re: #249 MsJ

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:26:21am

re: #251 Dave In Austin

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:26:21am

re: #254 MsJ

No, that is wrong…that was a response.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:27:28am

re: #255 Sufficient unto the day…

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:27:31am

re: #253 ObserverArt

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:28:34am

re: #238 MsJ

They would never believe it. Nothing will dissuade them from their beliefs.

It’s the highlight of conspiracy theory delusion
Everything is proof
Lack of everything is proof

Nonfalsifiable
Irrefutable

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:31:17am

His latest tweet:

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:31:45am

re: #250 ObserverArt

I’m trying to find where he lives so I can contact some sort of mental health service in his area.

I am worried about him. I know he can be irascible, but that may be part of all that troubles him. I had a friend like him…I don’t have that friend anymore because he did what skiguy is threatening.

I’m reinstalling Twitter now and will see if I can contact him.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:35:27am

Private to email CleverToad.

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CleverToad is in his general area (Denver). S/he may know something.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:36:27am

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:38:48am

re: #244 ObserverArt

RE: Gypsum.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:42:48am

re: #264 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:47:27am

re: #266 MsJ

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:49:04am

re: #261 makeitstop

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:51:12am

re: #268 Dr. Matt

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:55:06am

re: #269 Sir John Barron

For those of us on Twitter, any idea what the best thing to say in this situation is?

Tell him to come back here. He needs to be among friends, if only virtual ones.

I get the feeling he spends a lot of time alone, which is absolutely the worst fucking thing to do when in the throes of depression.

He needs to know someone cares about him, even if it’s from a distance.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:55:13am

re: #269 Sir John Barron

For those of us on Twitter, any idea what the best thing to say in this situation is?

Send him a DM with your phone number and ask him to call you.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:57:41am

re: #256 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:58:12am

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 6:59:44am

God damn Trump and his fucking cult. Who knows how many more people are going through the same goddamned thing across this country.

They are terrorizing the vulnerable. And they don’t even give a shit.

Damn them all.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:01:04am

re: #273 ObserverArt

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Stanley Sea  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:02:59am

re: #273 ObserverArt

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Teukka  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:03:36am

re: #273 ObserverArt

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:04:03am

What is happening over at Fox?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:05:25am

re: #177 Alephnaught

Oh my goodness, that would be so funny if the whole QAnon thing was cribbed from a 1999 novel by a collective of left-wing anarchists operating under the pseudonym “Luther Blisset”, someone who just happens to be a black UK footballer.

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Alephnaught  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:06:08am

re: #273 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:07:13am

re: #275 makeitstop

re: #276 Stanley Sea

re: #277 Teukka

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:07:34am

re: #221 Sir John Barron

Do I understand correctly that Kobach is running against the incumbent governor of his own party?

Brownback was the elected governor, and I think he got a new job. I believe a bunch of Republicans are in the primary.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:08:04am

re: #278 MsJ

What is happening over at Fox?

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I doubt Hannity or Ingraham are going to stop kissing Trump’s ass. But when ‘Judge’ Nap starts talking sense, it’s safe to assume that the writing on the wall is starting to come into focus.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:08:20am

re: #278 MsJ

What is happening over at Fox?

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:08:40am

re: #280 Alephnaught

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Stanley Sea  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:08:41am

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Teukka  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:11:23am

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:11:28am

re: #282 Big Beautiful Door

Brownback was the elected governor, and I think he got a new job. I believe a bunch of Republicans are in the primary.

I wonder if there is an interim gov then, or is Brownback still in the position? Otherwise it just sounded weird that he would be challenging an incumbent from his own party. Not that the Trumpoids are above that sort of thing.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:11:59am

re: #278 MsJ

What is happening over at Fox?

Somebody must have misplaced his official talking points. /

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:12:39am

Day 6 of the Manafort trial.

Check out the first post of the day about how the judge feels about Special Prosecutors. It’s interesting.

9:37 a.m.: Behind judge’s clash with prosecutors, sharp opinions about special counsels

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:13:43am

re: #284 MsJ

A response…LMAO.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:15:47am

Remember that info last night about Ohio D12 candidate Troy Balderson saying to his backers “we don’t need someone from Franklin County representing us?”

I think that didn’t go over so well with the voters of Franklin County/Columbus and suburbs. Local NBC news sent a guy out this morning to ask about that, and Balderson said we need someone to represent all of District 12.

The reporter asked him again about the comment and if wanted to address it.

Balderson gave a creepy smile and turned away repeating the same statement.

He pissed on 1/3 the voters in OH D12.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:16:39am

re: #292 ObserverArt

Remember that info last night about Ohio D12 candidate Troy Balderson saying to his backers “we don’t need someone from Franklin County representing us?”

I think that didn’t go over so well with the voters of Franklin County/Columbus and suburbs. Local NBC news sent a guy out this morning to ask about that, and Balderson said we need someone to represent all of District 12.

The reporter asked him again about the comment and if wanted to address it.

Balderson gave a creepy smile and turned away repeating the same statement.

He pissed on 1/3 the voters in OH D12.

Is Franklin County part of the CD he’s running to represent?

Goodness, what a colossal eff up if it is.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:17:42am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

Is Franklin County part of the CD he’s running to represent?

Goodness, what a colossal eff up if it is.

Yep, and it’s the largest county in the district, representing about 1/3 of the total votes.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:19:58am

re: #290 MsJ

Day 6 of the Manafort trial.

Check out the first post of the day about how the judge feels about Special Prosecutors. It’s interesting.

9:37 a.m.: Behind judge’s clash with prosecutors, sharp opinions about special counsels

The way I read it, the judge is set on keeping this from turning into a proxy trial against Trump. He also doesn’t seem to think that the judiciary offers any kind of check on the other two branches other than declaring laws invalid.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:20:16am

re: #294 Belafon

Yep, and it’s the largest county in the district, representing about 1/3 of the total votes.

What an idiot.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:22:42am

re: #292 ObserverArt

Remember that info last night about Ohio D12 candidate Troy Balderson saying to his backers “we don’t need someone from Franklin County representing us?”

I think that didn’t go over so well with the voters of Franklin County/Columbus and suburbs. Local NBC news sent a guy out this morning to ask about that, and Balderson said we need someone to represent all of District 12.

The reporter asked him again about the comment and if wanted to address it.

Balderson gave a creepy smile and turned away repeating the same statement.

He pissed on 1/3 the voters in OH D12.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:24:13am

re: #294 Belafon

Yep, and it’s the largest county in the district, representing about 1/3 of the total votes.

But, but, but, but Itz the Democrat Parti that are DiviDerz!

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:24:26am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

Is Franklin County part of the CD he’s running to represent?

Goodness, what a colossal eff up if it is.

Yes. Parts of Columbus and the suburbs of Dublin, Westerville, New Albany and Gahana. All are Columbus Metro area and are in Franklin County.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:25:28am

re: #295 Belafon

The way I read it, the judge is set on keeping this from turning into a proxy trial against Trump. He also doesn’t seem to think that the judiciary offers any kind of check on the other two branches other than declaring laws invalid.

I get what he said but if you look at the kinds of interjections (and admonishments) the judge has offered throughout, it’s kind of interesting since I don’t see some of what he said was at issue as falling into a proxy trial.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:25:58am

re: #281 ObserverArt

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:27:17am

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:29:48am

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:30:09am

re: #300 MsJ

I get what he said but if you look at the kinds of interjections (and admonishments) the judge has offered throughout, it’s kind of interesting since I don’t see some of what he said was at issue as falling into a proxy trial.

I agree. I was mostly trying to see if what I was reading was what others, such as you, were seeing. I find the biggest failing that he doesn’t think there’s a role for the judiciary in what is happening. He talks about needing a bipartisan commission, but doesn’t seem to recognize that Mueller was approved by both parties.

He also talks about the special counsel becoming political, but 1) it’s government so it’s by definition political, and 2) a bipartisan commission would also be political, and would be much more influenced by party politics.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:31:39am

Danny O’Connor tweet comment…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:32:28am

South Carolina TV manufacturing plant closes — and says Trump’s tariffs are to blame

Beleaguered Fairfield County is losing another 126 jobs after TV-maker Element Electronics said Monday it will close its Winnsboro plant in response to tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump.

The layoffs come a year after Cayce-based SCE&G and state-owned Santee Cooper canceled their decade long effort to build two nuclear reactors at the V.C. Summer Nuclear Station in Jenkinsville, putting 5,000 construction workers out of work and wiping away a promised economic boon to the poor, rural county.

Element’s announcement also comes a year after Fairfield County’s last textile mill closed, eliminating 200 more jobs.

maga

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sagehen  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:33:16am

re: #302 Dave In Austin

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:34:56am

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Stanley Sea  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:36:24am
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:36:47am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

South Carolina TV manufacturing plant closes — and says Trump’s tariffs are to blame

maga

Trumps response is “If they’ll just put up with the pain now, they’ll see how much better it will be later.” There are those that will believe it. None of them have any clue how poorly this has worked for him before.

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Teukka  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:37:41am

So, a new word proposal for being a Trump supporter (sorry if this has been done before):
#Magalomania.

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William Lewis  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:38:07am

re: #273 ObserverArt

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:38:57am

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:39:53am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

South Carolina TV manufacturing plant closes — and says Trump’s tariffs are to blame

maga

Hey, trump told them some people might have to suffer.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:42:41am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

South Carolina TV manufacturing plant closes — and says Trump’s tariffs are to blame

maga

I hope the last person to leave Fairfield County remembers to switch off the lights.

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unproven innocence  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:42:53am

Damn this administration To Hell And Back.
EPA is now allowing asbestos back into manufacturing
By Sydney Franklin • August 6, 2018
Intro:

One of the most dangerous construction-related carcinogens is now legally allowed back into U.S. manufacturing under a new rule by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). On June 1, the EPA authorized a “SNUR” (Significant New Use Rule) which allows new products containing asbestos to be created on a case-by-case basis.

According to environmental advocates, this new rule gives chemical companies the upper hand in creating new uses for such harmful products in the United States. In May, the EPA released a report detailing its new framework for evaluating the risk of its top prioritized substances. The report states that the agency will no longer consider the effect or presence of substances in the air, ground, or water in its risk assessments.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:43:18am

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:21am

Gates testimony is fascinating.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:46am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

I hope the last person to leave Fairfield County remembers to switch off the lights.

Well, Donnie can always open coal mines and steel mines in Fairfield County to replace those jobs lost.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:50:23am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:51:42am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:53:02am

re: #244 ObserverArt

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:53:53am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:55:23am

re: #326 MsJ

Ah, well, thanks for trying, pal.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:58:19am

re: #326 MsJ

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Wow. What “leadership”. Just think, he would have been a heartbeat away from the presidency if Mittens won.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:01:23am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

I wonder if there is an interim gov then, or is Brownback still in the position? Otherwise it just sounded weird that he would be challenging an incumbent from his own party. Not that the Trumpoids are above that sort of thing.

Brownback is gone, the new governor is Colyer. Its not really that weird, since Colyer is brand new to the position and wasn’t elected, so he’s an incumbent in name only.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:02:07am

Ummm…

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:02:28am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:03:09am

re: #328 Dr. Matt

Wow. What “leadership”. Just think, he would have been a heartbeat away from the presidency if Mittens won.

He knows that the GOP is Trump’s party now. Republicans are either jumping on the Trump Train or quitting, and Ryan decided to quit.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:03:29am

re: #330 makeitstop

Ummm…

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:03:34am

re: #312 Belafon

Trumps response is “If they’ll just put up with the pain now, they’ll see how much better it will be later.” There are those that will believe it. None of them have any clue how poorly this has worked for him before.

then to trump i would say:

no one closes a money maker - you sell it
deciding to close a plant means its losing money
so how much should the owners lose and for how long?
should they borrow to stay afloat? who’s gonna lend to them?
and after losing and/or borrowing all this money, if it will be “much better later”, then all they’ll be doing then is paying themselves back what they lost or the banks.

this isnt economics
is idiocy

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:05:18am

re: #321 Dr. Matt

Well, Donnie can always open coal mines and steel mines in Fairfield County to replace those jobs lost.

fake media wont report that steel mines are opening up all over the country!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:05:30am

re: #331 JordanRules

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:05:40am
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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:07:32am

re: #327 Sir John Barron

re: #328 Dr. Matt

Read the original article. nytimes.com

He is such a fucking coward.

Rubenstein also sprang a question about whether Ryan thought it would be proper for Trump to pardon anyone caught up in the Mueller investigation.

“I’m not going to touch that one,” he said. Rubenstein followed up with a related question about whether Trump should be allowed to pardon himself. Ryan laughed. “I’m good, thanks,” he said, as if he were resisting a plate of hors d’oeuvres — not touching that either.

Rubenstein eventually touched down elsewhere, but the pardon question lingered, at least with me. It came off as a quintessential example of Ryan glibly blowing off what could be a monumental abuse of presidential power and a potentially gigantic crisis. I raised this in the car heading back to the Capitol. His eyes bulged for an instant, as if some defense enzyme had been released.

“I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about that stuff,” Ryan said of the pardon issue.

“Shouldn’t you?” I said. It’s speculative, to a degree, I allowed. “But if you’re not going to touch that, who is?”

“I don’t think he’s going to do things like that,” Ryan said of Trump.

“He already has,” I said, referring to Trump’s pardoning of lawbreaking allies (Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D’Souza).

“No, I’m talking about firing and things like that,” Ryan said.

Trump has already done that too (James Comey) and has reportedly wanted to fire Mueller on at least two occasions. “My point is,” Ryan said, “and I’ve said it all along, Mueller should be able to do his job.”

Ryan seemed to become agitated by this line of questioning. “I’m not going to spend my time being a pundit, theorizing and speculating,” he said. “I’m going to spend my time making a difference in people’s lives, getting stuff done.” Now I was slightly annoyed by Ryan’s reduction of my question to “pundit theorizing,” as if Mueller’s investigation held zero significance to people’s lives. “I’m not going to spend my time getting into these circular debates,” Ryan added. “I’m trying to get an agenda passed.”

I pointed out that if Trump fires Mueller, it might be too late for Ryan to do anything even if he wanted to, and the country could already be well into a constitutional crisis.

“I don’t think — ” Ryan began, then stopped. “He knows my opinion on these things.”

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:07:59am

re: #333 JordanRules

WTF?!?!?

ObserverArt and others noticed a string of tweets on Teleskiguy’s Twitter page and (rightfully) became worried. OA got in touch with authorities out there and asked for a wellness check.

Something got a little mangled, either in the police response or Tele’s explanation, from the look of it.

Most of it is in PMs upthread.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:48am

re: #331 JordanRules

As an immigrant and a daughter of immigrants (with scores of immigrant family members in several countries), this news sickens me. But this just goes to show that the target was never going to be limited to so-called illegal immigrants. The whole point was to go after legal immigration in a way to target people of color. Their fear is that in a few decades this country will no longer be predominantly White. Democrats need to push back hard on this issue.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:49am

re: #326 MsJ

Paul Ryan admits he gave up trying to reel Trump in: ‘The pissing match doesn’t work’

paul ryan admits he abdicated his constitutional responsibilities

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:10:10am

re: #339 makeitstop

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:11:23am

re: #330 makeitstop

Ummm…

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:12:21am

re: #339 makeitstop

I’m up on how we got here. The WTF was for that tweet and the weird response from officials. Something major got lost in communication.

And OA absolutely did the right thing. Thank you!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:12:44am
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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:14:34am

re: #331 JordanRules

Trump admin considering rule barring immigrants living *legally* in the U.S. from receiving green cards/citizenship if *anyone in their household* (including, it appears, US citizen children) has ever used Obamacare, CHIP, food stamps

how do you ‘use obamacare’?

the ACA is an overarching name for equity in and access to health insurance in the marketplace thus covering (or covered) everyone

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:16:16am

re: #346 dangerman

how do you ‘use obamacare’?

the ACA is an overarching name for equity in and access to health insurance in the marketplace thus covering (or covered) everyone

They are probably looking into those that had to use Medicaid.

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Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:18:13am

Criminals as far as the eye can see.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:19:09am

re: #347 ObserverArt

They are probably looking into those that had to use Medicaid.

And who bought plans through the exchange.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:19:27am

re: #347 ObserverArt

They are probably looking into those that had to use Medicaid.

Probably also people who got a subsidy to purchase insurance on the exchanges.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:20:09am

This should seal Manafort’s fate.

Gates said they set up various accounts to accept payments from the Ukrainian businessmen for whom they worked. Those businessmen routed the payments through companies that similarly disguised their involvement. At one point, Gates said, when Manafort learned that his name was connected to an account, he grew concerned. Gates, too, said he asked for his own name to be removed from an account to which it was connected.

The arrangement created some challenges. Gates testified at one point the men encountered trouble with their Cyprus accounts, so they moved money — again using Dr. K’s law firm — to accounts in the Grenadines.

Importantly for prosecutors, Gates made clear that no matter the name on the accounts, they were ultimately controlled by Manafort. Jurors were shown one 2011 email in which Manafort explicitly approved a money transfer from one of the accounts to his company, DMP International. Among the charges Manafort faces is failing to report foreign bank accounts.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:24:15am

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:25:44am

re: #340 Patricia Kayden

But this just goes to show that the target was never going to be limited to so-called illegal immigrants. The whole point was to go after legal immigration in a way to target people of color. Their fear is that in a few decades this country will no longer be predominantly White.

That’s exactly what’s behind this. It’s glaringly obvious.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:28:56am

re: #349 Sir John Barron

And who bought plans through the exchange.

to me that implies creating classes of taxpayers based on who used certain credits and who didnt. not eligibility, but use…

and its post hoc law - creating a rule today that says correct, legal, and allowable decisions you made years ago can now be used against you

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:28:58am

I agree.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:33:14am

re: #331 JordanRules

Jesus fucking Christ.

This could stop me from getting my Citizenship.

I had to use SNAP benefits a couple of years after I got into the country because 1) We were in a recession and 2) My wifes grandmother, who were living with, passed away and as a result I had to put a larger chunk of my income towards the house bills.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:33:44am

re: #355 JordanRules

I agree.

He’s letting his belief that special counsels are wrong interfere with his ability to be impartial in this trial. It doesn’t matter that a special counsel found this stuff on Manafort. It’s pretty obvious Manafort has some actions he needs to answer to.

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Jay C  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:36:07am

re: #326 MsJ

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Jeez: it’s not exactly *news* that Paul Ryan is a pathetic partisan hack, but SRSLY? Asked questions about probably the most serious looming constitutional crisis in our history, and the Speaker Of The Fucking House Of Representatives can’t offer more than a shrug, a hand-wave and “it’s not my job, man!”??

Somehow I don’t think that Ryan’s proffered opinions of political impotence would be quite as acute if there was a Democratic President (especially a President Hillary Clinton).

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calochortus  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:37:11am

re: #356 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus fucking Christ.

This could stop me from getting my Citizenship.

I had to use SNAP benefits a couple of years after I got into the country because 1) We were in a recession and 2) My wifes grandmother, who were living with, passed away and as a result I had to put a larger chunk of my income towards the house bills.

I can’t imagine it holding up in court.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:37:11am

re: #356 Eclectic Cyborg

Jesus fucking Christ.

This could stop me from getting my Citizenship.

I had to use SNAP benefits a couple of years after I got into the country because 1) We were in a recession and 2) My wifes grandmother, who were living with, passed away and as a result I had to put a larger chunk of my income towards the house bills.

If the rule is instituted, I’m sure it will be reversed once a Democrat is President.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:37:46am
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:39:09am

re: #357 Belafon

He’s letting his belief that special counsels are wrong interfere with his ability to be impartial in this trial. It doesn’t matter that a special counsel found this stuff on Manafort. It’s pretty obvious Manafort has some actions he needs to answer to.

Exactly!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:39:34am

Is this a photo of the time Donnie received a fake purple heart and then said “I’ve always wanted one of these”?

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:41:44am

re: #363 Dr. Matt

Is this a photo of the time Donnie received a fake purple heart and then said “I’ve always wanted one of these”?

Does this also count the Republicans that received purple heart bandaids at the 2004 convention?

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:42:05am

re: #363 Dr. Matt

Is this a photo of the time Donnie received a fake purple heart and then said “I’ve always wanted one of these”?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:43:27am

re: #361 MsJ

This is great but don’t forget how much the media misrepresented the polls in 2016, don’t get complacent

I agree with the “don’t get complacent” part. But, the polls in 2016 were accurate in that they predicted HRC would get more votes than Dotard. It wasn’t until the closing week when Nate Silver’s analyses started revealing the possibility of an electoral loss but popular vote win for HRC.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:45:09am

re: #364 Belafon

Does this also count the Republicans that received purple heart bandaids at the 2004 convention?

This level of assholism is now mainstream in the GOP.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:45:36am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:48:04am

re: #368 JordanRules

The IL militia trio accused of bombing a mosque, a women’s health clinic, and a railroad claim they were taking orders from “higher ups” in other militias:

well, this shows us how vital a “well-regulated militia” is for a free state…

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:50:02am

re: #368 JordanRules

Someone needs to insert that definition into urban dictionary. If it would stay, I would suggest wikipia.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:50:27am

re: #369 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

well, this shows us how vital a “well-regulated militia” is for a free state…

By “free state” they mean free of people who are not white.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:52:27am

last night in Nebraska:

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:54:08am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:55:42am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:56:27am

re: #367 Dr. Matt

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This level of assholism is now mainstream in the GOP.

I’ll never forget or forgive that shit and that was long before Trump got involved in GOP politics so the Never Trumpers really need to take a good look at what theri party was before Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:56:50am

re: #374 Dr. Matt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:56:57am
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:57:36am

re: #374 Dr. Matt

It just dawned on me that Soros is a synonym for globalist.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:57:55am

re: #373 JordanRules

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Goddamn Kavanagh is an executive bootlicker of the highest degree and it’s becoming more and more apparent that this is why he got the pick. Barrett would have been bad too but it’s becoming more obvious to me that Trump picked him because of how he views the exec branch.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:57:57am
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:58:07am

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

May I ask what’s in the picture?

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wheat-dogg  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:59:16am

re: #378 Belafon

It just dawned on me that Soros is a synonym for globalist.

It’s long for Jew.

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Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:59:28am

re: #374 Dr. Matt

Would Chris by chance be a bot?

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:59:31am

re: #378 Belafon

It just dawned on me that Soros is a synonym for globalist.

Yup! It works for them on several levels and bonds them with the neo Nazis in Europe.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:00:19am

re: #382 wheat-dogg

It’s long for Jew.

Yep. Same thing with Alinsky and “Cultural Marxist.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:00:43am

re: #383 Skip Intro

Would Chris by chance be a bot?

I’d bot good money on it. Sorry I’ll see myself out.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:02:12am

re: #373 JordanRules

President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee argued presidents should be shielded from all criminal probes — even questioning.
— Los Angeles Times

Well, he probably meant only GOP presidents should be so shielded. He was part of the Starr investigation that “investigated” Bill Clinton, after all.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:02:53am

re: #383 Skip Intro

Would Chris by chance be a bot?

Looking at their timeline, this one might just be an American idiot or sophisticated foreign troll.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:03:10am

I pretty much finished the Farrell, Nixon biography. Really relevant to what’s going on today but unlike Trump, Nixon actually had a clue.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:05:03am

Abbott is such a dumbass.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:05:32am

re: #378 Belafon

It just dawned on me that Soros is a synonym for globalist.

((( Globalist )))

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:06:28am

re: #390 JordanRules

Abbott is such a dumbass.

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When George W. Bush is your most intelligent and well spoken governor of the past 20 years…..maybe time to change who you elect Texas and yes Texas Lizards I know about Dan Patrick waiting in Abbott’s wings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:07:36am

re: #381 Belafon

May I ask what’s in the picture?

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:07:45am

re: #392 HappyWarrior

When George W. Bush is your most intelligent and well spoken governor of the past 20 years…..maybe time to change who you elect Texas and yes Texas Lizards I know about Dan Patrick waiting in Abbott’s wings.

Political inbreeding has gone on for far too long here in Texas.

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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:07:46am

Great clapback by Lemon.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:08:43am

re: #395 makeitstop

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Great clapback by Lemon.

I’ve come to like Lemon more in recent years. Seemed like a bit of a lightweight to me at first but he’s damn good at calling Trump out in good ways.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:09:01am

re: #378 Belafon

It just dawned on me that Soros is a synonym for globalist.

And anti-fascist, which is why the right-wing propagandists hate him, and tell the right-wing idiots that Soros is a Nazi and that Nazis are left-wing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:09:10am

re: #394 Belafon

Political inbreeding has gone on for far too long here in Texas.

I seriously feel your pain. The Virginia GOP is pretty rotten too.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:10:13am

re: #397 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And anti-fascist, which is why the right-wing propagandists hate him, and tell the right-wing idiots that Soros is a Nazi and that Nazis are left-wing.

Fun fact but Soros did a lot to end Communism in Eastern Europe. There’s a big reason why far leftists and rightists hate teh man. I don’t think he’s a saint but I’d take him over the Kochs or especially the Mercers.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:11:13am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

Fun fact but Soros did a lot to end Communism in Eastern Europe. There’s a big reason why far leftists and rightists hate teh man. I don’t think he’s a saint think he’s human but and I’d take him over the Kochs or especially the Mercers.

FTFY

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:11:39am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

Fun fact but Soros did a lot to end Communism in Eastern Europe. There’s a big reason why far leftists and rightists hate teh man. I don’t think he’s a saint but I’d take him over the Kochs or especially the Mercers.

Orban in Hungary hates him and has done everything he can to run his organizations out of the country.

Orban calls himself a nationalist populist but scratch the surface and you have the same sort of fellows who ran the country under Communism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:12:25am

re: #400 Belafon

FTFY

Exactly. He’s a human being with flaws. And man the attacks on his youth piss me off from the same people who love a President who is loved by David Duke and real European Nazi fans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:13:06am

re: #401 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Orban in Hungary hates him and has done everything he can to run his organizations out of the country.

Orban calls himself a nationalist populist but scratch the surface and you have the same sort of fellows who ran the country under Communism.

I must confess to not knowing Hungarian geopolitics too well but I imagine it’s a similiar situation to what Milosevic and his cronies pulled in Serbia.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:13:39am

re: #390 JordanRules

Abbott is such a dumbass.

Maybe Governor TCOT should stick to trying to govern.

Or maybe for the good of Texans he shouldn’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:14:04am

re: #135 freetoken

As if any more evidence was needed that fundamentalism is hurting America:

“Doing the Lord’s Work” Heartland Institute Gathers Climate Deniers For America First Energy Conference

Note that Heartland is specifically titling this conference with “America First”, in a direct appeal to Trump marks’ religio-nationalism.

More proof that fundamentalism makes people stupid!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:14:17am

The photo of Soros in SS regalia is especially stupid and offensive.

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Teukka  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:14:42am

re: #405 Joe Bacon 🌹

More proof that fundamentalism makes people stupid!

FuntaMENTALism. With emphasis on Mental.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:14:44am

“… Maryland Republican Party Chairman Dirk Haire, however, told the newspaper that he wasn’t concerned.

“Like virtually all Americans, I don’t go on Twitter,” Haire said, adding that Twitter was for members of the media and athletes. “We use Facebook much more than Twitter.” …”

Except he has a twitter account ” @DirkHaire

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:15:31am

re: #408 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Except he has a twitter account ” @DirkHaire

Derp Dirk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:16:05am

re: #403 HappyWarrior

I must confess to not knowing Hungarian geopolitics too well but I imagine it’s a similiar situation to what Milosevic and his cronies pulled in Serbia.

Not really, but Hungary never had any sort of tradition of immigrants or guest workers and is very xenophobic.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:17:50am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not really, but Hungary never had any sort of tradition of immigrants or guest workers and is very xenophobic.

I meant Orban like Milosevic exploiting minorities. Yugoslavia never really had a ton of immigrants either but Muslims lived alongside Catholics and Orthodox for years. Anyhow, I fly to Bratislava on Saturday. Should be interesting for me since while my grandmother’s parents lived in what is today Slovakia, they weren’t Slovak ethnically but rather Carpathian Rusyn.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:20:11am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. If it’s a day ending in Y, it’s a day where Trumpworld is busy lying about everything they’ve touched.

Whether it’s lying their way through what their “diplomacy” with North Korea has achieved, or about the ongoing Mueller investigation, it’s a nonstop shitshow.

Trump admin claims North Korea is reneging on deal to denuclearize. That’s bogus, considering there wasn’t a deal. It was a promise to continue talking, and North Korea has continued its nuclear weapons program and missile development programs all while giving Trump the photo op he craved. That’s one way Trump has undermined our national security. He was so easily played that everyone took advantage of him.

Meanwhile, he’s trashing the JCPOA and imposed new sanctions against Iran on flimsy grounds. Iran has upheld its end of the deal, and by reneging, the US is going to give Iran the grounds to say fuck this and restart its nuclear program and go nuclear because it’s giving North Korea the parity it sought. This is the worst of all worlds for the world, and undermines the nuclear nonproliferation efforts worldwide because countries see that the US and Trump can’t be trusted - so why agree to any kind of deal that restricts their own nuclear programs.

Then, back at home, Trump’s lies around the California wildfires continue to be shredded by actual experts.

Oh, and Trump wants to curb legal immigration - pushing for the very kind of white nationalist agenda that we’ve been warning about since he entered the campaign. Trump wants to curb legal immigration, especially when it’s nonwhite Christians seeking to become citizens. It would screw those already in the process, and signal that the US is closed to nonwhites (which is exactly how angry white nationalists want the nation to be - they’re not very supreme if they are that fearful of minorities).

These angry white nationalists (including goddamned Nazis) want minorities gone. They want nonwhites gone. They don’t want nonwhites entering the US.

They can’t take the competition because they’re stuck with their limited education and failed policies and immigrants are finding opportunities easier because they have more education and skills that companies are looking for.

There was a study done and released over the past day or so that indicated that the majority of new jobs created were in blue states - and not in the Trump bastions. Trump counties are seeing jobs lost at greater rate than Clinton counties. Why? Well, it goes to what people and industries are looking for and the kinds of jobs that are available. This is an ongoing trend (see back in January - majority of new jobs created in a handful of states)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:20:43am

One of my favorite Doctor Who stories, The Talons of Weng Chiang, is now unacceptably racist, and had been banned in Canada.

I love the Robert Holmes episodes of the show, but this one is genuinely racist.

conradbrunstrom.wordpress.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:23:01am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:24:01am

re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So basically he’s been at his properties more than he hasn’t been. Oh and you can shut up about Obama golfing wingnuts but you won’t because you ahve Trump’s balls in your face.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:25:27am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:26:12am

re: #416 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I say Miller’s going to be with Trump to the end. He’s a true believer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:26:17am
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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:26:34am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:27:36am

re: #419 MsJ

Freedom. Liberty. Less Government. Don’t Tread On Me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:27:37am

re: #419 MsJ

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Nuts yes but not surprising. The R base is fascist. They are explicitly fascist without even realizing that they are the real fascists which is why dumbasses like Governor TCOT tweet what he tweeted.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:27:48am

re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth

25% of time golfing.
32.4% at one of his properties profiting.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:28:39am

re: #422 lawhawk

25% of time golfing.
32.4% at one of his properties profiting.

Yep. Lazy piece of shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:28:40am
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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:28:49am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:28:51am

re: #408 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Except he has a twitter account ” @DirkHaire

The Orange in the WH might not like this smear about Twitter.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:29:09am

re: #419 MsJ

This is one of those to throw at those who “only vote Republican.” Are you going to support these types of people being in charge?

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:29:20am

re: #422 lawhawk

25% of time golfing.
32.4% at one of his properties profiting.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:29:56am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:30:05am

We live among fascists. It sucks but that’s what many of our Republican friends, family, co-workers, neigbors, etc are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:31:07am

re: #430 HappyWarrior

We live among fascists. It sucks but that’s what many of our Republican friends, family, co-workers, neigbors, etc are.

in any case, they are clueless about how democracy functions

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:31:36am

re: #431 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

in any case, they are clueless about how democracy functions

Yes, yes they are.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:32:06am

Well, this is a lot of news to come on a Friday night news dump.

Wait, it’s Tuesday afternoon? Shiiiite.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:32:13am

re: #425 Jenner7

BREAKING: WSJ says Michael Cohen being investigated for tax fraud

BREAKING??

bullshit

anyone over the age of 6 knew this was coming when ‘taxi medallions’ was first mentioned all those months ago

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:32:30am

re: #433 lawhawk

But wait, there’s more:

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:32:32am

Columbus City Council President

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:32:45am

re: #425 Jenner7
From cnbc.com

- President Donald Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen is now being investigated for possible tax fraud, according to a new report Tuesday in the Wall Street Journal.

- The article said federal prosecutors in New York City, who already were investigating Cohen for a variety of business dealings, are now eyeing whether the 51-year-old undereported income from his taxi medallion business on his tax returns.

- Prosecutors are also investigating a $130,000 hush-money payment Cohen gave porn star Stormy Daniels on the eve of the 2016 presidential election in exchange for her silence about a purported affair with Trump.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:33:19am

So I returned from the Star Trek convention yesterday. I’ve already relayed all the news that came out of it, but I noted a difference in the atmosphere, too.

One thing was that there was less energy — my hypothesis is that we’re all exhausted by our current government. (You won’t find many DT supporters among Star Trek fans — a group with “Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations” as a motto isn’t likely to approve of him, also we may have a higher respect for facts than the general population.)

The other is that we always have the rule of keeping politics out of the convention, but this time they wouldn’t stay out. Quite a few of the actors and other guests wore “resistance” t-shirts (my favorite said “Immigrants Are U.S.”), and talk about what could be done kept creeping in.

The watchword of the convention was “vote.”

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:34:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:35:57am

re: #438 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

So I returned from the Star Trek convention yesterday. I’ve already relayed all the news that came out of it, but I noted a difference in the atmosphere, too.

One thing was that there was less energy — my hypothesis is that we’re all exhausted by our current government. (You won’t find many DT supporters among Star Trek fans — a group with “Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations” as a motto isn’t likely to approve of him, also we may have a higher respect for facts than the general population.)

The other is that we always have the rule of keeping politics out of the convention, but this time they wouldn’t stay out. Quite a few of the actors and other guests wore “resistance” t-shirts (my favorite said “Immigrants Are U.S.”), and talk about what could be done kept creeping in.

The watchword of the convention was “vote.”

That’s a pretty big deal, considering they all should have been extremely excited about Trek getting back on track with a Picard series.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:36:04am

re: #438 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

It’s not normal times. Sometimes things just can’t be kept separate, especially when the fate of people is involved.

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Jenner7  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:36:09am

To be clear, everything that’s happening now…we were all warned about.

So yeah, it’s not breaking news.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:39:05am

12:25 a.m. Gates makes one of his first references to the Trump campaign

There has been no significant discussion of Paul Manafort’s work on the Trump campaign so far at the trial, which is largely by design. The charges mostly concern the time period before he worked for Trump, and the parties were told to steer clear of any mention of possible collusion with the Russians, as that isn’t relevant to the case.

But Rick Gates - without using Trump’s name - referenced the campaign work on Tuesday.

Gates was describing how in 2015 and 2016, Manafort’s once lucrative work in Ukraine had dried up, and his company was in dire financial straits. He said the company, DMP International, did not acquire any new clients in 2015, and to his knowledge, was not earning income in 2016.

In March of that year, Gates said, he went to work for “one of the presidential campaigns.” Manafort, Gates said, hired him. We know that campaign was Trump’s, though Gates did not say the president’s name, and there was no further discussion of that work.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:39:09am
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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:39:48am

Unfu…

No… Unfuckingbelievable.

These extremists think that they’re entitled to a platform on a private business enterprise despite violating the TOS of that business.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:40:28am

re: #380 JordanRules

I went and looked this up, and found this information: sandiegouniontribune.com.

I defintely agree that $2/day + $1/hr is too low. But I did find out the following:
1. You have to volunteer.
2. Only those with minimal offenses can volunteer.
3. Each day working on fire fighting counts as two days of good behavior vs. one day just being in jail.

I think it’s time to end the part of the 13th amendment that allows for slave labor in prison.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:40:30am

re: #416 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

We don’t know that he isn’t undead…

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:40:46am
Pass the popcorn
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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:41:23am

re: #445 lawhawk
This pretty well sums it up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:41:44am

re: #445 lawhawk

Unfu…

No… Unfuckingbelievable.

These extremists think that they’re entitled to a platform on a private business enterprise despite violating the TOS of that business.

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Kristallnacht? Go fuck yourselves. Seriously.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:42:08am

re: #447 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We don’t know that he isn’t undead…

He sure looks like something in an Indiana Jones movie.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:42:45am

re: #442 Jenner7

To be clear, everything that’s happening now…we were all warned about.

So yeah, it’s not breaking news.

Yup. I’ve accepted that the mainstream news is 6 to 24 months behind on a lot of this and reporting from a both sides model that pushes them further from really breaking things.

There’s also the newroom bias that will not allow them to draw the common sense conclusions the people need if the subject is not the right demo.

And the profit motive can add a layer of suppression on certain reporting that they hide by saying they were using an abundance of caution but usually it just hits too close to home.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:42:55am

re: #451 MsJ

He sure looks like something in an Indiana Jones movie.

The Ark was closed part way through his melting.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:43:41am

You know for people who have a lot of admirers on Neo-Nazi circles, you’d think that right wing assholes would know better not to appropriate real tragedies where real people fucking died to a modern day Julius Streicher type actually being held accountdable for spreading lies to incite violence against people.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:44:26am

These Honkycaust nitwits are ridiculous.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:45:11am

Another one bites the dust.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:45:38am

Oh, and once again a reminder:

Four of the best damned investigative journalists and reporters on daily events/news are the following:
John Oliver
Samantha Bee
Stephen Colbert
Seth Meyers

If actual journalists and reporters don’t like this - the problem is with their industry, not the four I just mentioned.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:45:41am

re: #454 HappyWarrior

You know for people who have a lot of admirers on Neo-Nazi circles, you’d think that right wing assholes would know better not to appropriate real tragedies where real people fucking died to a modern day Julius Streicher type actually being held accountdable for spreading lies to incite violence against people.

They don’t; they revel in expropriating other people’s tragedies to use in bad faith.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:45:45am

re: #447 Colère Tueur de Lapin

We don’t know that he isn’t undead…

Have you splashed him with holy-water or driven a stake into his heart?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:46:05am

re: #455 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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These Honkycaust nitwits are ridiculous.

A Holocaust? Yeah it’s just like the Holocaust except you haven’t died or even been physically harmed. You just had your pathetic right wing ego bruised. Meanwhile, someone like Alex Jones would have cheered on the Holocaust or Kristallnacht. Fuck these people. I’m ashamed that they’re our fellow Americans. Gimme refugees and immigrants over these fascist fucks any day.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:46:30am

re: #164 A Mom Anon

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:46:39am

re: #458 Big Beautiful Door

They don’t; they revel in expropriating other people’s tragedies to use in bad faith.

It really disgusts me to the point of honest anger.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:46:42am

re: #457 lawhawk

Oh, and once again a reminder:

Four of the best damned investigative journalists and reporters on daily events/news are the following:
John Oliver
Samantha Bee
Stephen Colbert
Seth Meyers

If actual journalists and reporters don’t like this - the problem is with their industry, not the four I just mentioned.

Most of them are from The Daily Show, which was reporting real news the networks wouldn’t touch years ago.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:46:43am

“You realize, folks, that if Trump privatizes the Post Office, that company will no longer be required to deliver your hate mail?”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:47:16am

.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:47:26am

re: #464 Belafon

“You realize, folks, that if Trump privatizes the Post Office, that company will no longer be required to deliver your hate mail?”

Right wingers are so stupid that they don’t realize shit like that until it impacts them and then they want the same “big government” they decry to protect their sorry asses.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:47:45am

re: #463 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Most of them are from The Daily Show, which was reporting real news the networks wouldn’t touch years ago.

And the remaining one was on SNL’s Weekend Update, which did something similar.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:48:49am

Alex Jones being forced to spread his noxious messaging from a street corner will be music to my ears.

This fucker has been attacking 9/11 victims, Sandy Hook families, and others for over a decade. He’s ruined marriages by engaging in targeted harassment, and the media outlets did nothing but enable this fucker for too long.

Now that they’re finally cracking down and enforcing the TOS, the right wing extremists who fed off Jones are going nuts? Fuck them too - they’re the problem. They spread the noxious conspiracy theories and engaged in harassment themselves.

No media platform is required to give these fuckers a platform, not when they violate the TOS for those platforms. The problem is that they waited as long as they did to enforce the TOS.

This is something that should have been done ages ago.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:48:52am

Whew. Ben’s timeline is a trip. He’s giving it his all fighting back the stupid, but he and the others don’t realize it’s probably too late to put the genie back in the bottle.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:48:53am

re: #464 Belafon

“You realize, folks, that if Trump privatizes the Post Office, that company will no longer be required to deliver your hate mail?”

I thought hate-mail was electronic now except when white powders are involved.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:49:38am

And maybe that’s it. The party not in the White House gets to pick the Court Jester.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:50:31am

re: #261 makeitstop

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:51:11am

re: #469 JordanRules

Whew. Ben’s timeline is a trip. He’s giving it his all fighting back the stupid, but he and the others don’t realize it’s probably too late to put the genie back in the bottle.

Here’s the thing, Ben: We would be screaming if something like @PodSaveAmerica were dropped. We just wouldn’t be screaming that their first amendment rights were violated.

Nevermind. I misread the first time through.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:52:44am

Alex Jones for the past nearly 20 years has used his platform to mock victims of tragedies. It’s about time that he finally get some push back. He’s nothing but a disgusting hack who has made millions off of idiots who think their government is out to murder them. The worst thing is that Jones doesn’t even believe his own bullshit but he’s made money off of it. And this guy who loved loved to fret about the Executive branch from 01-17 suddenly loves it now that he has a like minded idealogue in the WH. Jones is a fucking fascist fake who’s finally getting his just deserts. Welcome to the free market, Alex, now fuck off and wallow in pain as you lose your millions and hopefully never get to see your kids again.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:53:52am

re: #470 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I thought hate-mail was electronic now except when white powders are involved.

There’s nothing requiring any online company to carry that stuff, since it is all private. If, somehow, everything hate related were removed by businesses, they would still have street corners and the post office, unless of course, it’s no longer a government entity.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:53:58am

re: #468 lawhawk

Alex Jones being forced to spread his noxious messaging from a street corner will be music to my ears.

This fucker has been attacking 9/11 victims, Sandy Hook families, and others for over a decade. He’s ruined marriages by engaging in targeted harassment, and the media outlets did nothing but enable this fucker for too long.

Now that they’re finally cracking down and enforcing the TOS, the right wing extremists who fed off Jones are going nuts? Fuck them too - they’re the problem. They spread the noxious conspiracy theories and engaged in harassment themselves.

No media platform is required to give these fuckers a platform, not when they violate the TOS for those platforms. The problem is that they waited as long as they did to enforce the TOS.

This is something that should have been done ages ago.

I’ve always wanted someone to punch Jones the same way Spencer got punched. JOnes is a sick sob whose sole purpose is stirring up shit and then profiting handsomely from it. I’d liken him to Julius Streicher.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:54:18am

re: #468 lawhawk

Alex Jones being forced to spread his noxious messaging from a street corner will be music to my ears.

This fucker has been attacking 9/11 victims, Sandy Hook families, and others for over a decade. He’s ruined marriages by engaging in targeted harassment, and the media outlets did nothing but enable this fucker for too long.

Now that they’re finally cracking down and enforcing the TOS, the right wing extremists who fed off Jones are going nuts? Fuck them too - they’re the problem. They spread the noxious conspiracy theories and engaged in harassment themselves.

No media platform is required to give these fuckers a platform, not when they violate the TOS for those platforms. The problem is that they waited as long as they did to enforce the TOS.

This is something that should have been done ages ago.

In England, he’d be just another crank at Speakers Corner, shouting madness to a crowd that’s a mix of cranks, and people there to see the freak show.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:55:12am

re: #466 HappyWarrior

Right wingers are so stupid that they don’t realize shit like that until it impacts them and then they want the same “big government” they decry to protect their sorry asses.

I am guessing that most if not all are ardent opponents of Net Neutrality. Over on the freeper cesspool, they’re discussing how “big tech” shouldn’t be allowed to censor their thoughts, which seems to be a tad hypocritical when one looks at their support of gutting Net Neutrality. But, consistency is not expected.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:55:41am

re: #446 Belafon

I went and looked this up, and found this information: sandiegouniontribune.com.

I defintely agree that $2/day + $1/hr is too low. But I did find out the following:
1. You have to volunteer.
2. Only those with minimal offenses can volunteer.
3. Each day working on fire fighting counts as two days of good behavior vs. one day just being in jail.

I think it’s time to end the part of the 13th amendment that allows for slave labor in prison.

Yup. There are some interesting ways they build these programs. Lots of well meaning folks come away thinking it’s not that bad and that intuitively these programs make sense.

I am not one of those people. This disgusts me and I draw the same conclusion as you. It’s the 13th!! We’ve got to fix that. It was designed that way on purpose. It is one of the most critical elements of our carceral state.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:56:06am

re: #476 HappyWarrior

I’ve always wanted someone to punch Jones the same way Spencer got punched. JOnes is a sick sob whose sole purpose is stirring up shit and then profiting handsomely from it. I’d liken him to Julius Streicher.

There was a better Nazi punch on the Internet last week or maybe last weekend. An idiot with a swastika armband being knocked right out of the frame.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:57:16am

re: #478 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I am guessing that most if not all are ardent opponents of Net Neutrality. Over on the freeper cesspool, they’re discussing how “big tech” shouldn’t be allowed to censor their thoughts, which seems to be a tad hypocritical when one looks at their support of gutting Net Neutrality. But, consistency is not expected.

That’s what happens when your sole ideology is opposing what the left supports and vice versa. This isn’t your grandfather’s conservatism where conservatives actually tried to think of an intellectual basis for opposing the New Deal- one I must add that I disagree with more than I don’t but one that actually had people using critical thinking skills rather than “Hey did I trigger some libs lolz?” That’s Limbaugh’s legacy on the right. Good riddance to them and to JOnes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:57:24am

re: #360 Big Beautiful Door

If the rule is instituted, I’m sure it will be reversed once a Democrat is President.

My green card expires in 2022. I may not be able to wait for the next Democratic President.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:57:36am

re: #480 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

There was a better Nazi punch on the Internet last week or maybe last weekend. An idiot with a swastika armband being knocked right out of the frame.

It was a beautiful thing. I was watching it on loop.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:57:44am

re: #475 Belafon

There’s nothing requiring any online company to carry that stuff, since it is all private. If, somehow, everything hate related were removed by businesses, they would still have street corners and the post office, unless of course, it’s no longer a government entity.

Jones still has his website, though with net neutrality gone (which Jones ironically supported) ISPs could block it.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:59:01am

re: #440 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s a pretty big deal, considering they all should have been extremely excited about Trek getting back on track with a Picard series.

Late in the convention (afternoon of the fourth day — of five). It did raise the mood a bit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:59:08am

re: #484 Big Beautiful Door

Jones still has his website, though with net neutrality gone (which Jones ironically supported) ISPs could block it.

Yep. And you know what, good, that idiot railed against NN without having a clue what it meant and if it screws him over just a slight, that’s funny as shit.

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:59:37am

re: #331 JordanRules

This is fucking vicious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:59:44am

Then there is this brain-dead “think piece” over at Slate

No One Voted for Facebook and Apple to Deal With Alex Jones
Whatever they do with conspiracy theorists, placing the distribution of information in the hands of a few tech companies will remain a very big problem.

In the case of, say, Apple taking Alex Jones out of iTunes, that is a decision by a very large private corporation about the distribution of information in what arguably should be an open-market system. And in the case of his work on Facebook, the decision is being made by the executives at Facebook. Decisions about who get to speak and how they get to speak on basic communications platforms are really decisions for the people of the United States to make. Back in the 1930s and 1940s, we didn’t have the executives of AT&T making decisions about who could speak on AT&T.

What the fuck?

“Government shall make no law”

Now he does make a great argument for Net Neutrality

But we forget that Twitter, Facebook, Apple and the NFL are private organizations. As long as access to the channels of distribution is kept open and democratic, then they should be allowed to regulate their own content as they see fit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:01:07am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My inner pessimist tells me that this will be the end of the US Dollar as the World Reserve Currency and once that collapses, the US will lose its ability to finance deficits by selling T-bills and have no choice but to go to war.

Criswell Bacon has been predicting this ever since Tweety Amin was Selected! And it’s coming to pass.

Now watch what happens when Trump properties are confiscated all over the world. And we won’t be able to go to war because we cannot finance it!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:01:12am

re: #482 Eclectic Cyborg

My green card expires in 2022. I may not be able to wait for the next Democratic President.

I have very high hopes for a Democrat to be in the WH before then. I’m sorry these fascists are putting your future in jeopardy.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:01:44am

We need to get all the statehouses we can! That’s the kind of thing that can really push generational change.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:01:49am

I want to ask the people crying about Jones having his “free speech” violated think it would be okay if I had a show dedicated to the violent overthrow and immediate execution of Trump and his associates? Or if some American citizen was a Hamas, Hezbollah, or Isis sympathizer. Jones isn’t being punished by the government. He’s being punished by the market. For a bunch of people who claim to venerate capitalism and all that comes with it, right wingers sure as hell don’t understand a thing about it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:02:11am

re: #482 Eclectic Cyborg

My green card expires in 2022. I may not be able to wait for the next Democratic President.

Won’t Canada let you in? If they’d let me in, I’d have fled America by now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:02:50am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:03:00am

re: #491 JordanRules

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We need to get all the statehouses we can! That’s the kind of thing that can really push generational change.

Yeah? Well your party chose to attach itself to that fuck nugget. He’s all yours GOP and we’re going to remind people of that long after he’s dead the same way you so patheticall try to claim Lincoln’s legacy as your own even though there’s no one left who was alive in the Lincoln years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:03:26am

re: #492 HappyWarrior

For a bunch of people who claim to venerate capitalism and all that comes with it, right wingers sure as hell don’t understand a thing about it.

They miss the “Government shall make no law…” part of the 1A just like they overlook the “Well-regulated militia…” part of the 2A.

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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:04:52am

re: #496 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They miss the “Government shall make no law…” part of the 1A just like they overlook the “Well-regulated militia…” part of the 2A.

Coincidentally, that’s how they read the Bible too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:06:16am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:06:24am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My inner pessimist tells me that this will be the end of the US Dollar as the World Reserve Currency and once that collapses, the US will lose its ability to finance deficits by selling T-bills and have no choice but to go to war.

Lots of rich countries currencies aren’t “the world reserve currency” and have no problem financing their deficits. As long as the US is a rich country with a freely convertible currency, this isn’t anything to worry about.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:06:25am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Kristallnacht? Go fuck yourselves. Seriously.

Just a word they were told to use

They have no idea what it means

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:07:18am

Considering? But funding secured? What weirdness is he into now?

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:07:40am

re: #452 JordanRules

Yup. I’ve accepted that the mainstream news is 6 to 24 months behind on a lot of this and reporting from a both sides model that pushes them further from really breaking things.

There’s also the newroom bias that will not allow them to draw the common sense conclusions the people need if the subject is not the right demo.

And the profit motive can add a layer of suppression on certain reporting that they hide by saying they were using an abundance of caution but usually it just hits too close to home.

Three swings
Three hits

Spot on

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:07:51am

re: #499 Big Beautiful Door

Lots of rich countries currencies aren’t “the world reserve currency” and have no problem financing their deficits. As long as the US is a rich country with a freely convertible currency, this isn’t anything to worry about.

Yes, but we are also running a system in which massive deficits are unavoidable because we refuse to tax people at a rate commensurate with the benefits they receive from government.

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nowherenorth2  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:08:26am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bill Hicks?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:09:18am

re: #491 JordanRules

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We need to get all the statehouses we can! That’s the kind of thing that can really push generational change.

The Democrats at the least need as many governorships or control of at least the upper or lower house of big states as possible so that they have a voice in the redistricting process after the Census.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:11:01am

re: #445 lawhawk

Unfu…

No… Unfuckingbelievable.

These extremists think that they’re entitled to a platform on a private business enterprise despite violating the TOS of that business.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:11:43am
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:12:51am

re: #496 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They miss the “Government shall make no law…” part of the 1A just like they overlook the “Well-regulated militia…” part of the 2A.

re: #497 lawhawk

Coincidentally, that’s how they read the Bible too.

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a string of posts!
Humans *sigh*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:13:01am

re: #501 JordanRules

Considering? But funding secured? What weirdness is he into now?

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He knows that he’s exposed himself as being too weird for people who don’t call heroes pedophiles. It’s likely he’ll say other insane things, so being publicly traded, Musk puts Tesla at risk. Musk won’t get rid of Musk, so this is the other option.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:13:31am

re: #503 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, but we are also running a system in which massive deficits are unavoidable because we refuse to tax people at a rate commensurate with the benefits they receive from government.

That could change in the next couple of elections.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:15:52am

re: #468 lawhawk

Alex Jones being forced to spread his noxious messaging from a street corner will be music to my ears.

This fucker has been attacking 9/11 victims, Sandy Hook families, and others for over a decade. He’s ruined marriages by engaging in targeted harassment, and the media outlets did nothing but enable this fucker for too long.

Now that they’re finally cracking down and enforcing the TOS, the right wing extremists who fed off Jones are going nuts? Fuck them too - they’re the problem. They spread the noxious conspiracy theories and engaged in harassment themselves.

No media platform is required to give these fuckers a platform, not when they violate the TOS for those platforms. The problem is that they waited as long as they did to enforce the TOS.

This is something that should have been done ages ago.

i see alex jones on 34th street at 6th avenue with his 2 watt PA system sitting on a luggagae cart. holding a cardboard sign as he raves…

and yes, they all waited waaaay too long hoping they wouldnt have to step in and ‘the thing’ would self-regulate

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:16:12am

re: #510 Big Beautiful Door

That could change in the next couple of elections.

I still don’t think we have the will for that long term yet.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:17:07am

re: #512 JordanRules

I still don’t think we have the will for that long term yet.

Paying their own way is only for poor people.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:17:59am
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:18:37am

re: #501 JordanRules

Considering? But funding secured? What weirdness is he into now?

Not sure where he’d be getting the money, but Tesla’s risk taking over profits really isn’t a very good Wall Street model.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:20:21am

re: #512 JordanRules

I still don’t think we have the will for that long term yet.

Well claiming that the US is going to lose “world reserve currency” status and then go broke as a result is an argument I’ve heard for years from rightwingers wanting to slash domestic spending, so I don’t give it much credence.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:20:43am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:23:31am

re: #514 JordanRules

This is an excellent interview of ⁦@arthurbrooks⁩. Our culture of treating each other with contempt is poisonous. Our enemies like #Putin are exploiting it & we are ALL guilty of spreading it as the responses sure to follow this tweet will prove.
— Marco Rubio

You campaigned on the idea that Barak Obama was “destroying America”.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:23:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:24:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:26:09am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:27:09am

re: #227 Sufficient unto the day…

I find the whole “strong on borders” thing to be a bit odd for KANSAS. I mean, is there a goddamn flood of refugees fleeing fucking Oklahoma?

I mean, if I lived in Oklahoma I’d be trying to escape, but not to Kansas…

100 years ago, the state with the strongest Socialist Party was Oklahoma. But add in 100 years of Right Wing Jesus and POOF!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:27:37am

re: #520 Backwoods_Sleuth

That just proves, PROOFS, how many millions of illegal votes there are!

//

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:28:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:29:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:29:30am

re: #514 JordanRules

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You can shut up Marco.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:29:30am

re: #472 BeachDem

Late to this thread, so sorry if this has been mentioned.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:29:50am
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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:30:11am

re: #518 Sir John Barron

You campaigned on the idea that Barak Obama was “destroying America”.

AND no we are not all guilty of spreading it

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:30:26am

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You sure showed us Millie. // Not. Publicly traded isn’t the same as public owned.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:30:45am

re: #529 dangerman

AND no we are not all guilty of spreading it

Marco is tho.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:30:56am

re: #507 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see a pooch like that and I wanna scritch attack that belly!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:31:17am

re: #518 Sir John Barron

You campaigned on the idea that Barak Obama was “destroying America”.

I hate that concern troll pansy Rubioz

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:31:55am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:32:38am

I missed the red-cap. Also a stupid-signal.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:32:47am

re: #534 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Note to Bernie, this is what candidates do for each other.

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Chrysicat  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:33:43am
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:36:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:37:10am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:37:12am

re: #538 JordanRules

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Oh these blue collar billionaires spending more on clothes than the average schmo makes in a year.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:38:13am

re: #537 Chrysicat

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Trump is Trump. An idiot who lucked into the WH because smarter people than he shared the same enemies.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:39:23am

re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:40:34am

re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wow. I guess I am just a bit emotional today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:48:09am

oh boy…

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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:54:11am

So where will the asbestos be used? I would say low income housing, but these people aren’t gonna make anything for the poors.

Oh, I know! Debtor’s prisons and actual poorhouses. That’s it.

This is the most evil fucking vile administration in US history.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:56:38am

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

Troubled Red Hat Wearing Heart on Twitters sure owned us libs but good.

////

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:56:54am

re: #545 plansbandc

So where will the asbestos be used? I would say low income housing, but these people aren’t gonna make anything for the poors.

Oh, I know! Debtor’s prisons and actual poorhouses. That’s it.

This is the most evil fucking vile administration in US history.

Based on Trump admins history, I presume they intend to spray asbestos directly into the lungs of the poor. They’ve already got tons of people volunteering for it just so they can “own the libs”.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:58:38am

re: #547 Kragar

“White nationalist lung.”

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Skip Intro  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:59:10am

re: #545 plansbandc

So where will the asbestos be used? I would say low income housing, but these people aren’t gonna make anything for the poors.

Oh, I know! Debtor’s prisons and actual poorhouses. That’s it.

This is the most evil fucking vile administration in US history.

Ben Carson will decide.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:59:14am

re: #535 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I missed the red-cap. Also a stupid-signal.

Remember when all of us Obama-cultists wore our Obama hats for eight years and used them in all our social media avis?

Man, that was great.

///

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:00:58am
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Jay C  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:02:22am

re: #540 HappyWarrior

Oh these blue collar billionaires spending more on clothes than the average schmo makes in a year. decades

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:03:38am

re: #551 Dr. Matt

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Shut up Kris. Nearly all the fraud has been by your fellow Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:06:01am
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:06:46am

re: #419 MsJ

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But their misreading of the second amendment is sacred.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:07:36am

re: #555 Eventual Carrion

But their misreading of the second amendment is sacred.

Just like the King James translation of the Bible was dictated by God

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:08:20am

re: #556 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just like the King James translation of the Bible was dictated by God

Who named it after LeBron James.

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dangerman  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:09:04am

re: #557 Belafon

Who named it after LeBron James.

that there was funny!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:10:09am

heh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:11:05am

re: #557 Belafon

Who named it after LeBron James.

Who was named after Lev Bronstein

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:11:46am

re: #553 HappyWarrior

Shut up Kris. Nearly all the fraud has been by your fellow Republicans.

Does nothing embarrass or send a message to Kobach that he needs to chill out or go away? He’s been blown out of the water by judges and others to stop his bullshit voter fraud crap and he just goes on and on.

I hope he gets beat in this election and maybe finally figures out that he needs to go away from politics.

Oh hell, what am I thinking? There are bucks to be made by being exactly what he is.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:12:26am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:14:18am

re: #561 ObserverArt

Does nothing embarrass or send a message to Kobach that he needs to chill out or go away? He’s been blown out of the water by judges and others to stop his bullshit voter fraud crap and he just goes on and on.

I hope he gets beat in this election and maybe finally figures out that he needs to go away from politics.

Oh hell, what am I thinking? There are bucks to be made by being exactly what he is.

He got where he is by being thick-headed. No messages will be received.

We’ve reached a point where the right won’t listen to the left because they think the left are race-traitors who refuse to hate minorities, and the left won’t listen to the right, because they’re racist scum.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:15:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:19:34am

that mobile voting app that WV plans on using for the military for the midterms?
It’s sounding worse and worse…

(more in that thread)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:20:28am

re: #563 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He got where he is by being thick-headed. No messages will be received.

We’ve reached a point where the right won’t listen to the left because they think the left are race-traitors who refuse to hate minorities, and the left won’t listen to the right, because they’re racist scum.

I do not like these generalizations.

We have argument-resistant strains of stupidity over most of the political spectrum, but what bothers me is the willingness to accept any negative statement about an opponent at face value without checking and then to actively spread it just because it makes them look bad.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:21:06am
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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:21:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:22:12am

re: #567 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If you don’t believe me just look at the open and explicit anti-white hatred that is allowed by this and every other platform that Alex Jones is barred from. This is a WHITE HOLOCAUST.

except most of you guys insist that the Holocaust never happened…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:22:18am

re: #566 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not like these generalizations.

We have argument-resistant strains of stupidity over most of the political spectrum, but what bothers me is the willingness to accept any negative statement about an opponent at face value without checking and then to actively spread it just because it makes them look bad.

Where am I wrong? Maybe you’re just unwilling to accept how bad the right is now.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:24:34am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:24:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:26:24am

re: #570 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Where am I wrong? Maybe you’re just unwilling to accept how bad the right is now.

the level of idiocy is really bad on the right, but it can be found on the left as well and there are even places where the two overlap.

But yeah, the fact that things like Jade Helm CT’s or Q-anon can start as a bad joke and take on a life of its own is truly disturbing

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:27:37am

I caught this and retched!

Every man that has ever done this to me or one of my friends was a creep or worse.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:28:34am

re: #571 jaunte

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His tough talk is just that, talk.

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carey94tt  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:28:41am

Does anyone here watch The Good Fight? I’m surprised that I’ve seen little reference to on LGF.

IMO it is the most entertaining show on TV streaming in production. It doesn’t take itself too seriously and really has found it’s legs in the 2nd season.

Terrific episodes on immigrants, the DNC (yes, even the PP tape), feminism, race, punditry, guns, trumpism, escapism and much more. Incredible writing, production and acting.

Looking forward to season 3.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:29:14am

re: #576 carey94tt

Does anyone here watch The Good Fight? I’m surprised that I’ve seen little reference to on LGF.

IMO it is the most entertaining show on TV streaming in production. It doesn’t take itself too seriously and really has found it’s legs in the 2nd season.

Terrific episodes on immigrants, the DNC (yes, even the PP tape), feminism, race, punditry, guns, trumpism, escapism and much more. Incredible writing, production and acting.

Looking forward to season 3.

I’ll check it out.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:29:16am

The biggest lie conservatives will say is that they “support legal immigrants.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:29:53am

re: #578 DodgerFan1988

The biggest lie conservatives will say is that they “support legal immigrants.”

Don’t let the big, beautiful door hit you in the ass…

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:30:13am

re: #574 JordanRules

I didn’t even know there was such a thing.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:30:43am

re: #578 DodgerFan1988

The biggest lie conservatives will say is that they “support legal immigrants.”

That was before this new policy. //

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:31:25am

re: #578 DodgerFan1988

The biggest lie conservatives will say is that they “support legal immigrants.”

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Is Miller even a “Conservative”? It seems like he’s been openly-fascist since he was a kid, back when people who called themselves “Conservatives” were not a band of fascists.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:33:42am

I’m not sure I’m following here. Yes I would like him to spill it all publicly but that wouldn’t shield him from anything I don’t think.

He needed to do it back in 2015/16.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:33:48am

re: #582 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Is Miller even a “Conservative”? It seems like he’s been openly-fascist since he was a kid, back when people who called themselves “Conservatives” were not a band of fascists.

Your “back when” no longer applies to huge parts of the GOP.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:36:06am

re: #583 JordanRules

I’m not sure I’m following here. Yes I would like him to spill it all publicly but that wouldn’t shield him from anything I don’t think.

He needed to do it back in 2015/16.

I think he’s playing on the general rule that, from what I understand, in cases where the law is after the big dog, the earlier you cooperate, the better it is for you.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:36:18am

re: #584 Belafon

Your “back when” no longer applies to huge parts of the GOP.

Of course, but back then it did. Miller was nothing like mainstream Conservatives even in High School. It’s just that Conservatives call themselves “Libertarian” now, and fascists call themselves “Conservative”.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:36:38am

re: #576 carey94tt

So many people love it. I will definitely try it again based on what I’ve heard. Caught bits of the first couple eps when it first came out but it never stuck. I really was only half watching tho.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:37:45am

re: #586 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of course, but back then it did. Miller was nothing like mainstream Conservatives even in High School. It’s just that Conservatives call themselves “Libertarian” now, and fascists call themselves “Conservative”.

and we have been taught that Fascism and White Supremacism are just points on the accepted political spectrum instead of seeing them as anathema to American values and the things that Americans have fought and died tried to prevent.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:39:48am

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:40:00am

re: #585 Belafon

I think he’s playing on the general rule that, from what I understand, in cases where the law is after the big dog, the earlier you cooperate, the better it is for you.

I remember Avenatti pushing this ‘release everything publicly’ line about Cohen when they decided to leak the one tape. It seemed like he was advocating something other than cooperating. I was kinda confused then too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:40:52am

re: #588 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and we have been taught that Fascism and White Supremacism are just points on the accepted political spectrum instead of seeing them as anathema to American values and the things that Americans have fought and died tried to prevent.

Yep, and it’s horrifying! I do think we’ll stop these fuckers, rather than becoming another Russia, menacing the West.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:42:04am
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:43:47am
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lawhawk  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:44:24am

re: #593 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:45:48am
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:47:50am

Here’s how the Right will counter any attempt to explain why the policy targeting legal immigrants is wrong: Anchor Babies! And when you explain to them what the Russians are doing at Trump locations, they’ll counter with “but white!”

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:49:03am

Alex Jones has got to be losing what’s left of his mind right about now.

In a statement to Media Matters, MailChimp confirmed it has removed the accounts for Infowars, citing “hateful content”:

MailChimp doesn’t generally comment on individual users or accounts, but we’ll make an exception today. MailChimp notified Infowars that their accounts have been terminated for violating our Terms of Service, which make it clear that we don’t allow people to use our platform to disseminate hateful content.

We take our responsibility to our customers and employees seriously. The decision to terminate this account was thoughtfully considered and is in line with our company’s values.

After Stitcher, Apple, Facebook, LinkedIn, and YouTube all removed Alex Jones and Infowars, Alex Jones aired a shot of a document during a live stream showing that MailChimp removed him “effective immediately” because his account “is in violation of our Terms of Use.”

mediamatters.org

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:52:39am

re: #594 lawhawk

[Uralasbest, a Russian mining company and the world’s largest supplier of asbestos has put Trump’s face on their product]

Time to rename that stuff: Ass Be Best.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:53:25am

re: #595 JordanRules

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I see Russell comes from the Periello school of politics :). That’s a compliment.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:55:45am

re: #597 Dr Lizardo

Alex Jones has got to be losing what’s left of his mind right about now.

mediamatters.org

AJ: I am the King of all Media! I will be the death knell of the liberal elite media! Presidents bow before me!

Aide: Sir, Mailchimp has abandoned us now, too.

AJ: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! ALL IS LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:56:05am

I guess this a biggie for those who don’t know or forget that these fuckers have known each other and grifted together forever!!

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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:56:23am

Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama


@teleskiguy
4h4 hours ago

The cops showed up to my house, armed with assault weapons. Someone read my suicidal tweets in the next county over and thought I was some dude named Adam Crane in Ohio who was going to kill his wife. Today I learned people actually read my tweets.
1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:56:27am

re: #599 HappyWarrior

I see Russell comes from the Periello school of politics :). That’s a compliment.

Exactly who I thought of!

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gocart mozart  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:57:28am
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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:57:44am

re: #574 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

I caught this and retched!

Every man that has ever done this to me or one of my friends was a creep or worse.

Kathleen Turner is my spirit animal.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:58:22am

re: #605 BeachDem

Kathleen Turner is my spirit animal.

After reading that article, I want to hang out with her so much!!

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:59:44am

re: #606 JordanRules

After reading that article, I want to hang out with her so much!!

I wanted Kathleen Turner to be the Wasp.

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wrenchwench  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:04:03pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 12:11:24pm

re: #589 Stanley Sea

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