Tuesday Night Party Jam: Angelo Moore & the Brand New Step, “Pendulum Swings”

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This is an off the cuff video shot in Taipei for the single “Pendulum Swings”, a subversive party jam with a positive message set to the stream of consciousness flow of one of the greatest musical minds of the punk-poet generation, Angelo Moore. Pendulum Swings drops a hot new-wave funk-soaked track with rhythm section Claude Coleman (Ween) and Hashish (Thievery Corporation Live Band) and Angelo shreds throughout on horns and vocals, speaking his mind, his truth to power, and offering up his solutions. Also in the video are fellow band members Bridney Reese, Kris Jensen, and Diamond Jim. Required Listening.

Pendulum Swings

Video shot by Steven Vigar & Jason Peters @ Up Against The Wall in Taipei, Taiwan
Edited by Jeremy Solterbeck / Canopus

Produced by Rondo Brothers & Kris Jensen
Drum programming and engineering : Brandon Arnovick
Live drums: Claude Coleman
Synthesizers, drum programming, wurlitzer, organ: Jim Greer
Vocals, theremin, bass/tenor/alto/soprano saxophone: Angelo Moore
Guitars : Kris Jensen, Rick McKay
Additional Vocals : Bridney Reese, Michele Harper, Cheyenne Moore
Bass Guitar: Ashish Vyas

Live drums engineered by Calvin Turnbull & Jim Greer
Recorded at Opus Studios, Berkeley, CA, Bowl Noodle Hot, San Francisco, CA,
and the Angelo Moore Studio Complex, Los Angeles, CA

Written By Arnovick/Greer/Jensen/Moore
Lyrics by Angelo Moore
Published by Wonderbuck/ASCAP, Moore/Mapp ASCAP, Anonymous Lipstick BMI, Kris Wood Jensen BMI

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590 comments

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:17:24pm

Just seven OH-12 precincts left and Balderson’s lead is now 1,685 votes. I think that one is over. At least the margin is now more than the f***ing Green vote.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:18:02pm

Kobach is going down in Kansas…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:18:50pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Kobach is going down in Kansas…

Bye bye Kris. Though I know Trump is going to give him some plush job.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:19:15pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Bye bye Kris. Though I know Trump is going to give him some plush job.

I hear there’s soon to be an opening in the DOJ…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:19:20pm

Regardless of what happens in Ohio 12, there is still positive news on the horizon:

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:19:20pm

AP:

BREAKING: John James wins Republican nomination for U.S. Senate in Michigan primary election.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:20:08pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:21:42pm

We know what side Jack is on.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:23:16pm

Its remarkable that in a deep red district, outspent 5-1, in an 88% white district, O’Connor nearly pulled it out. Republicans all over the country are shitting their pants.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:24:11pm

Who wore it better?


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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:24:37pm

Man, fuck Balderson winning. You just know Trump will be gushing about this one.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:25:19pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, fuck Balderson winning. You just know Trump will be gushing about this one.

O’Connor has another shot at him in November.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:26:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:26:14pm

re: #12 Big Beautiful Door

O’Connor has another shot at him in November.

Yes, and I’m hoping Mueller has a bomb or two to drop by then to tip the scales.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:27:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:28:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:29:10pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I could understand it 18 years ago. It was a different time but after Bush, after Trump!, and you’re still doing this shit?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:29:48pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Bye bye Kris. Though I know Trump is going to give him some plush job.

I thought he already did. Isn’t he in charge of Voter Suppression nationwide?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:30:37pm

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought he already did. Isn’t he in charge of Voter Suppression nationwide?

The Commission was disbanded.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:30:37pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Kobach is going down in Kansas…

He’s only 1,500 votes down. It’s a long way from over.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:30:48pm

re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought he already did. Isn’t he in charge of Voter Suppression nationwide?

Didn’t that end thankfully?

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:31:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:31:45pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:32:47pm

re: #9 Big Beautiful Door

Its remarkable that in a deep red district, outspent 5-1, in an 88% white district, O’Connor nearly pulled it out. Republicans all over the country are shitting their pants.

I know some, like Skip, do not see any kind of reward in a hair thin loss, but I want everyone to remember this same race gets repeated in November. I think many are missing that.

It is due to how Tiberi retired and how that worked on the calander with the election laws.

This was so close there is a good chance more people will want to come out and vote in November when it is a bigger election with bigger turnout.

And, as in a war…a tie battle but a bigger cost in money and reputation for the Republicans. Trump did Balderson more harm than good. More Trump hate build-up by November too.

I think O’Connor shows he can stand in this race for the full term seat, not a fill-in of 5 months from this race.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:34:11pm

And the Jillshills are cheering another Republican victory…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:34:35pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

I know some, like Skip, do not see any kind of reward in a hair thin loss, but I want everyone to remember this same race gets repeated in November. I think many are missing that.

It is due to how Tiberi retired and how that worked on the calander with the election laws.

This was so close there is a good chance more people will want to come out and vote in November when it is a bigger election with bigger turnout.

And, as in a war…a tie battle but a bigger cost in money and reputation for the Republicans. Trump did Balderson more harm than good. More Trump hate build-up by November too.

I think O’Connor shows he can stand in this race for the full term seat, not a fill-in of 5 months from this race.

And with the GOP having to defend seats all over the country, it will be hard for them to outspend O’Connor by the margin they did for the special.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:34:36pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

I know some, like Skip, do not see any kind of reward in a hair thin loss, but I want everyone to remember this same race gets repeated in November. I think many are missing that.

It is due to how Tiberi retired and how that worked on the calander with the election laws.

This was so close there is a good chance more people will want to come out and vote in November when it is a bigger election with bigger turnout.

And, as in a war…a tie battle but a bigger cost in money and reputation for the Republicans. Trump did Balderson more harm than good. More Trump hate build-up by November too.

I think O’Connor shows he can stand in this race for the full term seat, not a fill-in of 5 months from this race.

I mean I understand where Skip is coming from but as you and BD have illustrated for us, this is a thoroughly Republican district. I really like O’Connor in a Round 2 between these two.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:34:53pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:34:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:37:07pm

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

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It’s called population density you idiot. This is basic Demography 101. Maybe you’d know that if you didn’t have your head so far up Trump’s ass Billy. And yeah we may live in more densely populated areas which is why we don’t shoot everyone who goes on to our land.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:37:09pm

re: #29 The Vicious Babushka

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As usual a tiny little dick makes a stupid twitter comment and thinks he is all that.

Fuck off Mitchell.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:38:19pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

As usual a tiny little dick makes a stupid twitter comment and thinks he is all that.

Fuck off Mitchell.

They love to brag about how much land they have but I’ll keep on reminding them that Alaska is bigger than California and California has much more people. Because people actually want to live in California.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:38:53pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

It’s called population density you idiot. This is basic Demography 101. Maybe you’d know that if you didn’t have your head so far up Trump’s ass Billy. And yeah we may live in more densely populated areas which is why we don’t shoot everyone who goes on to our land.

He knows this; he is just getting his jollies triggering libs.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:39:47pm

And yeah I know some rural lizards like AM don’t like me talking that way but you know what, I’m a rural resident too and I’m tired of people in sparsely populated areas acting like their counties or precincts which haven’t changed in decades being more numerous than our densely populated areas which are constantly changing for the better are more “real American” than theirs

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:39:58pm

re: #33 Big Beautiful Door

He knows this; he is just getting his jollies triggering libs.

Actually I think he is that dumb.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:40:31pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Actually I think he is that dumb.

I kinda do too.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:41:24pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:42:48pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Actually I think he is that dumb.

re: #36 JordanRules

I kinda do too.

Judging by his body of Twitter “work” I think he has more than proven he is just that dumb.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:43:14pm

All precincts reporting, and Balderson is up 1,766 votes before the provisional ballots are counted.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:43:20pm

re: #38 ObserverArt

Judging by his body of Twitter “work” I think he has more than proven he is just that dumb.

He’s up there with SMOTI.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:43:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:43:42pm

re: #39 Big Beautiful Door

All precincts reporting, and Balderson is up 1,766 votes before the provisional ballots are counted.

Unfortunately I don’t think it’s gonna be enough for O’Connor but I think he could win a Round 2 in November.

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:43:58pm

re: #39 Big Beautiful Door

All precincts reporting, and Balderson is up 1,766 votes before the provisional ballots are counted.

Ten days before the provisional ballots are counted, apparently

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:45:11pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately I don’t think it’s gonna be enough for O’Connor but I think he could win a Round 2 in November.

It could reduce Balderson’s margin to the point that a recount is triggered, but odds are he will win this round.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:45:19pm
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Kragar  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:45:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:46:04pm

re: #45 JordanRules

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I think Nate has it right.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:46:10pm

Colyer’s lead over Kobach now narrowed to less than one point.

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:46:44pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

And yeah I know some rural lizards like AM don’t like me talking that way but you know what, I’m a rural resident too and I’m tired of people in sparsely populated areas acting like their counties or precincts which haven’t changed in decades being more numerous than our densely populated areas which are constantly changing for the better are more “real American” than theirs

Yeomen farmers vs cosmopolitans, it’s been one of the natural fault lines in this nation since Jefferson and Hamilton.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:46:58pm

re: #46 Kragar

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I wonder how much percent of the vote Trump himself got in his home district back in NY. I bet it was the least amount ever for a candidate. Because New Yorkers aren’t dumbasses politically.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:47:21pm

re: #49 KGxvi

Yeomen farmers vs cosmopolitans, it’s been one of the natural fault lines in this nation since Jefferson and Hamilton.

Or Yeomen versus Immigrant takers.

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:19pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

Or Yeomen versus Immigrant takers.

I’d make a transatlantic slave trade joke, but it’d probably be in bad taste…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:23pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

Didn’t that end thankfully?

Yes, states told him to fuck off when he asked them for their voter rolls and that was pretty much all she wrote.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:25pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Ten days before the provisional ballots are counted, apparently

There are 2,355 provisional ballots and 3,841 absentee ballots for a total of 6,396 ballots not counted, not including Delaware County (which could bring that total up to maybe 8,500-9,500). If those break 60/40 for O’Connor, he wins. If they break 55/45 his way, that’s recount territory.

Edit: Just a bit high: the actual total is 8,483 (5,048 absentee and 3,435 provisional). The margin is 1,754 out of 202,521 total votes, so O’Connor needs to make up 21% of those votes to win and 9% to reach recount territory.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:48:53pm

re: #5 Dr. Matt

Regardless of what happens in Ohio 12, there is still positive news on the horizon:

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Or they could win them all in squeakers. We still have idiots voting for third parties for some strange reason. Sigh.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:50:18pm

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

Or they could win them all in squeakers. We still have idiots voting for third parties for some strange reason. Sigh.

A shift of 7 toward the Democrats is a rout in a lot of states.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:50:33pm

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

Or they could win them all in squeakers. We still have idiots voting for third parties for some strange reason. Sigh.

I could really understand third parties if we had coalition governments like parliamentary systems do. And what people who bemoan the two party system don’t want to admit is that they’ve contributed to it constantly.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:50:37pm

re: #57 Belafon

A shift of 7 toward the Democrats is a rout in a lot of states.

Absolutely!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:51:02pm

re: #57 Belafon

A shift of 7 toward the Democrats is a rout in a lot of states.

Indeed. I feel very good about VA-10 after tonight. You’re on notice, Comstock.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:52:01pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Indeed. I feel very good about VA-10 after tonight. You’re on notice, Comstock.

And Ky-6 is looking good for McGrath!

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:52:39pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:52:43pm

re: #61 Big Beautiful Door

And Ky-6 is looking good for McGrath!

Yep!

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:53:10pm

Was just commenting on the page about California’s primary, when looking it up, I just looked up the numbers, and per the Secretary of State’s pre-primary report, there are now more independent voters in California than there are registered Republicans.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:53:48pm

re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, states told him to fuck off when he asked them for their voter rolls and that was pretty much all she wrote.

My favorite response to Kobach was Delbert Hosemann, SecState of that liberal mecca of Mississippi, telling Kobach to jump in the Gulf of Mexico.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:54:42pm

re: #65 Brian J.

My favorite response to Kobach was Delbert Hosemann, SecState of that liberal mecca of Mississippi, telling Kobach to jump in the Gulf of Mexico.

I got the impression after that Kobach probably isn’t the most popular guy with his fellow Republicans even.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:55:33pm

If it took that much spending in a +7-12 district by Republicans, think of what Texas is going to do to GOP spending this fall.

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:55:36pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I got the impression after that Kobach probably isn’t the most popular guy with his fellow Republicans even.

Cruz/Kobach 2020! Because we need these assholes to understand that nobody really likes them

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:57:20pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Cruz/Kobach 2020! Because we need these assholes to understand that nobody really likes them

Hahaha. The Lindsay Graham shoot them ticket.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:57:59pm

Our oligarchy at work.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:58:00pm

re: #64 KGxvi

Was just commenting on the page about California’s primary, when looking it up, I just looked up the numbers, and per the Secretary of State’s pre-primary report, there are now more independent voters in California than there are registered Republicans.

The GOP is now a third party in California

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:58:32pm

Reminder numbers of Ohio District 12 last election in 2016

Republican - Pat Tiberi (Incumbent) - 251,266 Votes - 66.55%
Democratic - Ed Albertson - 112,638 Votes - 29.84%
Green - Joe Manchik - 13,474 Votes - 3.57%
Independent John J. Baumeister (Write-in) - 156 Votes - 0.04%
Total votes - 377,534 Votes - 100.00%

Important points: 377,534 voters because it was a big Presidential election. 200,000 voters today in the special.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:58:52pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I got the impression after that Kobach probably isn’t the most popular guy with his fellow Republicans even.

But in Kansas he is now in a virtual dead heat with Colyer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:59:02pm

re: #70 jaunte

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Our oligarchy at work.

Oh this is completely okay.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:59:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:59:19pm

re: #73 Big Beautiful Door

But in Kansas he is now in a virtual dead heat with Colyer.

Oh I meant with fellow elected officials.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 7:59:45pm

re: #75 MsJ

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That would be Gillbrand who I like a lot honestly despite her role in that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:00:16pm

re: #72 ObserverArt

Reminder numbers of Ohio District 12 last election in 2016

Republican - Pat Tiberi (Incumbent) - 251,266 Votes - 66.55%
Democratic - Ed Albertson - 112,638 Votes - 29.84%
Green - Joe Manchik - 13,474 Votes - 3.57%
Independent John J. Baumeister (Write-in) - 156 Votes - 0.04%
Total votes - 377,534 Votes - 100.00%

Important points: 377,534 voters because it was a big Presidential election. 200,000 voters today in the special.

Yep. Practically a 20% swing by Danny.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:01:00pm

re: #75 MsJ

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I’m curious what the people here who pushed for him to leave think.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:01:08pm
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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:01:32pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Yep. Practically a 20% swing by Danny.

And it ain’t over yet. Not until those provisionals and absentees are counted in 10 days. They pushed Conor Lamb to victory (although O’Connor will need more than twice as much help as Lamb received).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:02:38pm

re: #79 Belafon

I’m curious what the people here who pushed for him to leave think.

I must confess that I thought he should have gone but if this thing turns out to be a big fuck operation, I do apologize because Franken is someone I thought highly of.

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:03:00pm

re: #71 Big Beautiful Door

The GOP is now a third party in California

It’s been about 30 years in the making. In 1990, the GOP had 39% of the electorate and 9% were independent. By 2000 it was 35% and 14%. In 2010 it was 30% to 20%.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:03:12pm

re: #81 Brian J.

And it ain’t over yet. Not until those provisionals and absentees are counted in 10 days. They pushed Conor Lamb to victory (although O’Connor will need more than twice as much help as Lamb received).

True, true.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:03:43pm

re: #83 KGxvi

It’s been about 30 years in the making. In 1990, the GOP had 39% of the electorate and 9% were independent. By 2000 it was 35% and 14%. In 2010 it was 30% to 20%.

And they did it to themselves.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:04:38pm

re: #79 Belafon

I’m curious what the people here who pushed for him to leave think.

I don’t have an especially high opinion of Gillibrand overall, but I agree with her actions here. Franken just wasn’t being honest with the other Senators and couldn’t provide them with confidence that they wouldn’t be asked to defend more and more harassing behavior. Gillibrand was right to put and end to the drip-drip-drip.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:05:31pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

That would be Gillbrand who I like a lot honestly despite her role in that.

Fuck her. After Roger Fucking Stone tweeted about the whole affair hours before it broke, I knew what this was. This just confirms it.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:06:42pm

re: #79 Belafon

I’m curious what the people here who pushed for him to leave think.

First, I’d like to at least see the report.
I believe there were only 3 of us so me, GDFrank and Big Beautiful Door who disagreed with the majority in some fashion. I am certainly willing to weigh in on new developments.

To clarify a bit, I didn’t push for him to leave but I was fine with it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:07:13pm

re: #79 Belafon

I’m curious what the people here who pushed for him to leave think.

I still think Franken did the right thing resigning. And that’s all I have to say on the subject.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:07:29pm

re: #87 MsJ

Fuck her. After Roger Fucking Stone tweeted about the whole affair hours before it broke, I knew what this was. This just confirms it.

You were right. I feel so fucking dumb.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:07:29pm

NATE SILVER11:04 PM
So, O’Connor needs to win the absentee/provisional ballots by 21 percentage points to win the state if all of those ballots are counted, which they presumably won’t be. So let’s round up a bit and say he’d have to win them by 25 points. Provisionals tend to be very Democratic leaning, and so it wouldn’t be crazy to think he could get there if all of the uncounted votes were provisionals. However, the majority of them are actually absentees, and those won’t necessarily be Democratic. So it’s something of a long shot, but there are enough votes there that I wouldn’t want to “call” the race, unless I knew more about the nature of who tends to vote absentee in the district.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:07:51pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

That would be Gillbrand who I like a lot honestly despite her role in that.

There were more female Congessfolk than just Gillibrand. She will probably get all the blowback though.

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Chrysicat  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:00pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:07pm

They showed a bit of Danny O’Connor’s election night party speech on MSNBC. He was pretty pumped up and the room was too. Ohio Democrats will be fighting again in November. Let’s see if Balderson brings Trump back to central Ohio again.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:15pm

re: #86 Brian J.

I don’t have an especially high opinion of Gillibrand overall, but I agree with her actions here. Franken just wasn’t being honest with the other Senators and couldn’t provide them with confidence that they wouldn’t be asked to defend more and more harassing behavior. Gillibrand was right to put and end to the drip-drip-drip.

“When did you stop beating your wife, Senator?”

I have to disagree. They needed more than anonymous accusations.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:26pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

I wonder how much percent of the vote Trump himself got in his home district back in NY. I bet it was the least amount ever for a candidate. Because New Yorkers aren’t dumbasses politically.

New York Cty(Manhattan)
Clinton 86.56% 579,013
Trump 9.71% 64,930

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:08:41pm

re: #92 JordanRules

There were more female Congessfolk than just Gillibrand. She will probably get all the blowback though.

Well she’s the one with her aspirations on the big house so yeah if it’s true that this was one of that Nixon tramp stamp Stone’s games, absolutely. God I feel so gullible.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:09:29pm

re: #96 BeachDem

New York Cty(Manhattan)
Clinton 86.56% 579,013
Trump 9.71% 64,930

Right but I was specifying his home district but yikes. As I said, the people who knew Trump best rejected him the most soundly. The people who didn’t are the ones who embrace him still.

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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:09:46pm

And while I contribute to rehashing something that I shouldn’t have, I’ll say there’s nothing we can do about it now. Bigger fish to fry and all that.

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Chrysicat  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:10:08pm

re: #93 Chrysicat

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I’d have said “FOAD”, and still had the characters for it, but I’m worried that if I’d spelt out what he could do, I might have earned a Twitban.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:10:13pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

You were right. I feel so fucking dumb.

I’m not going to say anything against your or anyone else. Everyone has their opinions (right or wrong 😉🤣).

I’m just super pissed that we, Democrats, always play by different rules. It’s infuriating.

See Gym Jordan, for example.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:10:45pm

re: #99 Belafon

And while I contribute to rehashing something that I shouldn’t have, I’ll say there’s nothing we can do about it now. Bigger fish to fry and all that.

They were not all anonymous.
cnbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:12:24pm

re: #101 MsJ

I’m not going to say anything against your or anyone else. Everyone has their opinions (right or wrong 😉🤣).

I’m just super pissed that we, Democrats, always play by different rules. It’s infuriating.

See Gym Jordan, for example.

Truth be told, I was with y’all on the first accusation but then things got a little more sticky as more stuff came out. Thanks though. I miss Franken.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:14:25pm
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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:14:35pm

BTW, I want intending to relitigate Franken opinions. I was just posting a tweet update.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:14:56pm

Fucking weird. The election is still officially too close to call, but Balderson and Trump are out there doing victory laps.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:15:13pm

The thing about Franken was the players involved.

It just did’t smell right. Still doesn’t.

So, it can still be a hit job even with his resignation because we would never have known had they not put that together from how long ago???

And that makes it stink even more. Trump is a known groper and he is in the White House with a whole party machine backing him.

The Democratic Machine???

Franken didn’t even get a looksie as far as investigation. Guilty. Boom.

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KGxvi  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:15:28pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Fucking weird. The election is still officially too close to call, but Balderson and Trump are out there doing victory laps.

Pride cometh before the fall and all that jazz

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:15:40pm

re: #91 MsJ

NATE SILVER11:04 PM
So, O’Connor needs to win the absentee/provisional ballots by 21 percentage points to win the state if all of those ballots are counted, which they presumably won’t be. So let’s round up a bit and say he’d have to win them by 25 points. Provisionals tend to be very Democratic leaning, and so it wouldn’t be crazy to think he could get there if all of the uncounted votes were provisionals. However, the majority of them are actually absentees, and those won’t necessarily be Democratic. So it’s something of a long shot, but there are enough votes there that I wouldn’t want to “call” the race, unless I knew more about the nature of who tends to vote absentee in the district.

NYT hasn’t called it, with 100% of precincts reporting.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:15:44pm

re: #104 jaunte

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Yeah? Maybe not being Trump toadies would be a ogod start Frank.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:16:09pm

re: #107 ObserverArt

The thing about Franken was the players involved.

It just did’t smell right. Still doesn’t.

So, it can still be a hit job even with his resignation because we would never have known had they not put that together from how long ago???

And that makes it stink even more. Trump is a known groper and he is in the White House with a whole party machine backing him.

The Democratic Machine???

Franken didn’t even get a looksie as far as investigation. Guilty. Boom.

Different rules. Always. For everything.

It fucking chaps my ass.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:16:17pm

I guess Balderson thinks if he claims it, it’s his.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:16:33pm

re: #109 BeachDem

NYT hasn’t called it, with 100% of precincts reporting.

Neither has the AP/ Politico.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:16:35pm

re: #109 BeachDem

NYT hasn’t called it, with 100% of precincts reporting.

I don’t think anyone but the GOP has.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:17:21pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Yeah? Maybe not being Trump toadies would be a ogod start Frank.

He’ll find some new field tested bullshit phrase soon to help out his pals.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:17:43pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Fucking weird. The election is still officially too close to call, but Balderson and Trump are out there doing victory laps.

Assurances from Moscow

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:19:16pm

re: #112 jaunte

I guess Balderson thinks if he claims it, it’s his.

It won’t be official for days. Provisional ballots have to be counted, and there is a chance a recount will be triggered.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:19:54pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Right but I was specifying his home district but yikes. As I said, the people who knew Trump best rejected him the most soundly. The people who didn’t are the ones who embrace him still.

You’re really making me work!

In 2016, within the precinct that contained Trump Tower, 200 people voted for Clinton as opposed to 95 for Trump

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:20:17pm

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

It won’t be official for days. Provisional ballots have to be counted, and there is a chance a recount will be triggered.

Which will eat up a big chunk of the 90 days left to campaign before Round 2. Oh for the British system of paper ballots and recounts on the spot.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:20:49pm

re: #118 BeachDem

You’re really making me work!

In 2016, within the precinct that contained Trump Tower, 200 people voted for Clinton as opposed to 95 for Trump

Hahahaha I didn’t ask for the precinct just the district but good home work!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:21:39pm

Meanwhile, with 64% of the vote in, Colyer and Kobach are in a virtual tie.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:22:21pm

re: #111 MsJ

Different rules. Always. For everything.

It fucking chaps my ass.

The former GOP speaker is a man who prayed on children and covered it for decades yet the GOP still has these pathetic values voters summits where they jack each other off and talk about how they have superior moral values to us.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:22:22pm

Good question.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:23:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:23:35pm

re: #123 MsJ

Good question.

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Maybe Matthis and I might be giving him too much credit because I’ve read he’s got some shady business dealings of his own.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:24:14pm

re: #123 MsJ

Wilbur Ross is in tenth place, so farther than that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:24:16pm

re: #124 JordanRules

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So RT, how does it feel to be the mouth piece of a puny little fascist who is afraid of gay people?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:25:34pm

re: #126 jaunte

Wilbur Ross is in tenth place, so farther than that.

I mean even in the crooked Nixon WH, you still had some stand up people. Ruckelhaus who resigned after the Saturday Night Massacre for example who interestingly just wrote a piece today for the Post about how Trump is channeling Nixon in the worst ways. This administration I can’t find someone who isn’t detestable in some way. Maybe Matthis but as I said I think if you scratch his sticker, he might end up a stinker like Kelly has.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:25:57pm

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

Meanwhile, with 64% of the vote in, Colyer and Kobach are in a virtual tie.

The largest chunk of the remaining vote is in suburban Johnson County (which has reported only the early vote so far), where Colyer’s got a decent lead, so it’s probably his race to lose.

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Schweppes7  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:26:11pm
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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:26:21pm

Succession:
Vice President Mike Pence
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:27:12pm

re: #131 jaunte

Succession:
Vice President Mike Pence
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly

Pompeo SoS now.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:27:22pm

re: #130 Schweppes7

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You really don’t understand these things do you dumbass. But go ahead and brag about ohw your guy squeaked out a victory in a very Republican district. You sound like a sports fan who brags about his team beating the Mets.

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:27:31pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:28:00pm

re: #134 MsJ

Do. Not. Concede.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:28:22pm

re: #131 jaunte

Succession:
Vice President Mike Pence
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly

That’s outdated. Tillerson, Shulkin, Kelly, and PRice are all gone from their posts.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:28:44pm

re: #134 MsJ

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He shouldn’t concede.

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Schweppes7  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:28:56pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Ugh as a Mets fan that hurts! I was at the Nationals v. Mets massacre last week and the wound is still fresh…..

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MsJ  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:29:01pm

re: #131 jaunte

Succession:
Vice President Mike Pence
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly

Nobody then. Not a single one of them.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:29:02pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

You’re right. I still wouldn’t trust them with my wallet.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:29:18pm

re: #129 Brian J.

The largest chunk of the remaining vote is in suburban Johnson County (which has reported only the early vote so far), where Colyer’s got a decent lead, so it’s probably his race to lose.

With only 203 vote lead, I wouldn’t be too comfortable if I was Colyer.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:29:30pm

re: #138 Schweppes7

Ugh as a Mets fan that hurts! I was at the Nationals v. Mets massacre last week and the wound is still fresh…..

Sorry, low blow on my part and I’m an Orioles fan so my team sucks too.

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:29:46pm

This is the fastest changing succession list I’ve experienced.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:29:54pm

re: #140 jaunte

You’re right. I still wouldn’t trust them with my wallet.

I wouldn’t trust any of them. They actually thought going to work for Trump was a good idea.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:30:07pm
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plansbandc  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:30:35pm

re: #140 jaunte

No way would any of them give the money back. The empty wallet? In the trash.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:30:45pm

re: #143 jaunte

This is the fastest changing succession list I’ve experienced.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see another cabinet member go before November. Who will it be? Tune in next. But first here’s President Trump shooting himself in the balls and declaring victory.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:30:46pm

re: #145 JordanRules

YAY~

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jaunte  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:31:18pm

re: #147 HappyWarrior

Zinke’s on deck.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:31:27pm

re: #145 JordanRules

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Good riddance. The way McCullouch handled the Michael Brown case was disgusting.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:31:50pm

re: #149 jaunte

Zinke’s on deck.

Yeah that would be my pick too.

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ObserverArt  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:32:21pm

re: #130 Schweppes7

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Bullshit. O’Connor was still a point behind on Saturday. He actually got to dead heat over the weekend.

Donny has to pump up his own needs and obviously doesn’t give a shit about the panic in the party. So damn needy.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:32:44pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:33:16pm

Kobach with a tiny lead now.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:33:21pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:34:00pm

re: #153 Ace-o-aces

Mercy!!!!

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:37:01pm

re: #156 JordanRules

Mercy!!!!

This may be the new record.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:37:16pm
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Jay C  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:39:02pm

re: #123 MsJ

Good question.

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Ben Carson. And then only because he’d probably be too absent-minded to rummage….

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:41:07pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

It’s not weird, it’s the conservative mantra: Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Declare victory and if it turns out they are wrong, claim that the victory was stolen through malfeasance, hold fundraisers and chum up the base.

Rinse & repeat.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:41:40pm

re: #131 jaunte

Succession:
Vice President Mike Pence
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly

Succession, with emphasis on the Suc.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:44:07pm

And now it’s Washington’s turn!

In the Senate race, with all the counties dropping their first batch of votes (like California, votes will be dribbling in for a while), Maria Cantwell is way out in front with over 55% of the vote to 24% for GOoPer Susan Hutchison. The rest is scattered among 27 other candidates, with the third place guy being GOoPer Keith Swank at 2.34%, so the Senate matchup is set.

In the interesting House races, Jaime Herrera Beutler in WA-3 only leads Democrat Carolyn Long 41 to 37 percent, with all Democrats totaling 50.4% of the vote. (Our Revolution-endorsed Dorothy Gasque blew a Gasquet, as she’s in 5th place with under 5% of the vote.) Over in WA-5, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, the GOP’s #4 in the House, has just 47.5% of the vote and a 525-vote lead on Democrat Lisa Brown, although all the other candidates are either GOoPers or a “Trump Populist,” so she might have a bit of breathing room. And to replace the retiring Dave Reichert in WA-8, Dino Rossi has 43% of the vote while the three pursuing Democrats total 49%, with Kim Schrier holding a narrow lead for second place. So all three of these seats should be very much in play in November.

(Oh, and for whoever it was in WA-9, Adam Smith has just over 50% of the vote, Dave Basler 27% and local BernieSis Sarah Smith 23%.)

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:44:25pm
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makeitstop  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:47:17pm

Just walked in from rehearsal. That track is smokin’ hot.

Angelo from Fishbone, right?

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:47:43pm

OH -12 is down to a 1,754 vote differential.

However, according to latest from CNN, that doesn’t count the outstanding votes from absentee and provisional ballots.

Totals on those are 5048 absentee, 3435 provisional. All of the absentee ballots will be counted, and likely around 20-30% of the provisionals (since most of those are people voting in wrong precinct)

With under a 0.9% margin currently, there’s no way in hell they can call a winner tonight.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:49:57pm

re: #165 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

OH -12 is down to a 1,754 vote differential.

However, according to latest from CNN, that doesn’t count the outstanding votes from absentee and provisional ballots.

Totals on those are 5048 absentee, 3435 provisional. All of the absentee ballots will be counted, and likely around 20-30% of the provisionals (since most of those are people voting in wrong precinct)

With under a 0.9% margin currently, there’s no way in hell they can call a winner tonight.

Got mail from Danny O’Connor’s campaign just now, asking for money for a recount.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:49:58pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:50:21pm

With 71% of the vote in, Kobach has an 871 vote lead over Colyer. Trump is hoping to take another victory lap tonight.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:50:39pm

re: #162 Brian J.

And now it’s Washington’s turn!

In the Senate race, with all the counties dropping their first batch of votes (like California, votes will be dribbling in for a while), Maria Cantwell is way out in front with over 55% of the vote to 24% for GOoPer Susan Hutchison. The rest is scattered among 27 other candidates, with the third place guy being GOoPer Keith Swank at 2.34%, so the Senate matchup is set.

In the interesting House races, Jaime Herrera Beutler in WA-3 only leads Democrat Carolyn Long 41 to 37 percent, with all Democrats totaling 50.4% of the vote. (Our Revolution-endorsed Dorothy Gasque blew a Gasquet, as she’s in 5th place with under 5% of the vote.) Over in WA-5, Cathy McMorris Rodgers, the GOP’s #4 in the House, has just 47.5% of the vote and a 525-vote lead on Democrat Lisa Brown, although all the other candidates are either GOoPers or a “Trump Populist,” so she might have a bit of breathing room. And to replace the retiring Dave Reichert in WA-8, Dino Rossi has 43% of the vote while the three pursuing Democrats total 49%, with Kim Schrier holding a narrow lead for second place. So all three of these seats should be very much in play in November.

(Oh, and for whoever it was in WA-9, Adam Smith has just over 50% of the vote, Dave Basler 27% and local BernieSis Sarah Smith 23%.)

Will Dino Rossi never fucking go away?

But on a more positive note:

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Chrysicat  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:51:54pm
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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:52:12pm

re: #168 Big Beautiful Door

With 71% of the vote in, Kobach has an 871 vote lead over Colyer. Trump is hoping to take another victory lap tonight.

Politico’s now up to 78% of the vote and Colyer’s back in front by a whopping 287 votes. Now will someone give the vote counters in Johnson County a few slaps so they’ll finish (or for that matter, start) tonight?

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:56:10pm

THIS!
They suck but they will always exist. Better to have the numbers be small as hell.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 8:59:06pm

YES! Fuck Bob McCulloch.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:01:12pm

re: #167 goddamnedfrank

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While reading that thread, was led to this:

Hmmmm—gives one pause…

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:01:38pm

My jaw, on the floor.

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retired cynic  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:03:23pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

My jaw joined yours.

Ooo, didn’t mean it to sound that way!

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:03:58pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

My jaw, on the floor.

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He can join Mr. Pence on that launch to the sun I mentioned in the last thread.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:04:53pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

My jaw, on the floor.

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Better to register 2000 new voters, get folks IDs, push voter ride sharing
etc than worry about this bullshit here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:04:57pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

My jaw, on the floor.

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And you STILL have Jillshills who will do everything they can to keep Republicans in office!

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:07:01pm
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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:08:16pm

re: #180 JordanRules

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And the guy he split it with called Orange Boy a progressive (or is really bad at using the English language, which is understandable for a [checks notes] doctor).

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bratwurst  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:08:25pm

While human detritus like Kobach should always be defeated, a victory for him tonight would have the silver lining of making the general election highly competitive.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:08:55pm

This shit keeps me up at night.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:09:41pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:10:41pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:11:41pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

My jaw, on the floor.

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Hell, GoodSpaceGuy got 4533 so far tonight. Of course, he doesn’t claim to be from space….

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TedStriker  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:11:59pm

re: #184 JordanRules

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Feel that “economic anxiety”!

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Amory Blaine  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:12:59pm

re: #131 jaunte

Succession:
Vice President Mike Pence
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan
Senate President Pro Tempore Orrin Hatch
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson
Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin
Secretary of Defense James Mattis
Attorney General Jeff Sessions
Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke
Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross
Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta
Secretary of Health and Human Services Tom Price
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson
Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao
Secretary of Energy Rick Perry
Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos
Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin
Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly

Keep going…

Maybe this guy?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:14:20pm

Kansas GOP Gov race not going to be decided tonight; its still a virtual tie.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:16:54pm

re: #183 goddamnedfrank

This shit keeps me up at night.

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STAR TREK ENTERPRISE ‘In a Mirror, Darkly’ Opening Titles (HQ)

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:19:54pm

MsJ, this one’s for you!

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:25:20pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:27:18pm
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Belafon  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:30:13pm

I know you were all thinking “my blood pressure just isn’t high enough tonight.” Thread:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:30:57pm

re: #174 BeachDem

While reading that thread, was led to this:

Hmmmm—gives one pause…

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:33:09pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

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Alfredo can always kick rocks.
Love all of the rest but I’ll go with Bolognese.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:35:58pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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RCP polling average before the primary: Whitmer 40.8, Thanedar 20.8, El-Sayed 17.5.
RCP polling average, undecideds removed: Whitmer 51.6, Thanedar 26.3, El-Sayed 22.1.
Actual primary results right now: Whitmer 51.9, El-Sayed 31.5, Thanedar 16.6.

Basically, he filched votes from the rich guy with no other credentials and didn’t impact Whitmer’s vote, kinda like the way Берни consolidated the anti-Clinton vote without swinging any votes from her.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:44:53pm
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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 9:47:06pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Didn’t see anything about how the loss of one candidate *must* be some kind of referendum on his politics, style of campaign, clothes and hair choice, etc.

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:01:48pm

With only the Johnson County precincts and part of one other small county still out, Kobach leads by 807 votes. The early vote in Johnson County favored Colyer, but who knows what happens now?

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:04:16pm

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:04:54pm
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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:05:09pm

Jeez—maybe Balderson should go work with bebest Melon. His grasp of the English language is on par with hers.

Balderson promised that “for the next three months, I’m going to do everything I can to keep America great again.”

(And Troy, baby, you ain’t goin’ anywhere just yet.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:07:07pm

A Man Calling CNN ‘Fake News’ Has Been Arrested After Allegedly Threatening to Kill the Network’s Employees

A Michigan man has been arrested for allegedly threatening to carry out a mass shooting at CNN’s Atlanta headquarters in a series of hostile phone calls earlier this month.

The man threatened CNN operators in 22 separate phone calls on Jan. 9 and 10, in which he allegedly called the network “Fake News” and threatened CNN employees with violence, Atlanta CBS affiliate WGCL-TV reported. “I’m coming to gun you all down,” he reportedly said.

The same genius, one Brandon Griesemer of Novi, Michigan, was under investigation for making threatening calls to the Ann Arbor Islamic Center last September.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:10:24pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:12:12pm
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austin_blue  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:22:20pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

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Puttenesca. Anchovies, Napoli Roma tomatoes, capers, oregano, and basil. Literally “whores” sauce. She Who Must Be Obeyed disagrees. Not a fan of salty fish and cured flower buds, but that’s OK. I’ll make her a marinara in one pan and me a puttanesca in another, separately covering a nice al dente penne or bucatini.

And night all, sweet dreams. Welcome to the new hatchling.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:26:04pm

THIS is the hill I want to die on.

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:35:04pm

Looking at the Franklin County votes broken down by precincts, I have to say, even if O’Conner doesn’t pull this one out, there is reason to be optimistic about November’s rematch. Franklin County (where actual people live) is the key.

Franklin County registered voters—168,719
Voted in this special election—71,353 (not sure if that includes provisional/absentee not yet counted)

Out of 198 precincts in Franklin County, Balderson won only 11—and 7 of those by fewer than 20 votes. 10 more votes per precinct and O’Conner would have won.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:36:53pm
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Kragar  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:41:49pm
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Kragar  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:46:39pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:47:56pm

re: #210 JordanRules

Disgusting. On the 10-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion, Russian PM Medvedev threatens Georgia with another war if it ever joins NATO. Currently, @NDI shows 75% of Georgians aspire to join the Alliance. Its their voice that counts, not Putin’s lapdog.

I do have some issues with NATO and see no need for it to expand up to Russia’s borders. Not that I support or condone what Russia did ten years ago in Georgia or more recently in Ukraine.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:49:56pm

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do have some issues with NATO and see no need for it to expand up to Russia’s borders. Not that I support or condone what Russia did ten years ago in Georgia or more recently in Ukraine.

If 75% of the people want it tho?

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Brian J.  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:50:27pm

Oddity: With almost 96% of the vote counted in the MI-13 special election, we have a flat-footed tie between Brenda Jones and Rashida Tlaib, each with 28,858 votes. (Tlaib has a significant lead in the race for the full term starting in January.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 7, 2018 • 10:52:29pm

re: #214 JordanRules

If 75% of the people want it tho?

My issue is with NATO in general, not with Georgia in particular. I can understand that they might feel “safer” as part of a larger alliance, but NATO was created to counter the Warsaw Pact, which has been defunct since the start of the 90’s.

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vgranucci  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:06:21pm

re: #132 Big Beautiful Door

Pompeo SoS now.

And Elaine Chao is excluded due to not being a natural born citizen of the U. S.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:19:39pm

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My issue is with NATO in general, not with Georgia in particular. I can understand that they might feel “safer” as part of a larger alliance, but NATO was created to counter the Warsaw Pact, which has been defunct since the start of the 90’s.

Yeah, I got ya. I was wondering how much their wishes calculated into it.

Either way, Medvedev’s rhetoric seems unwise and more likely to underscore why Georgia might feel it necessary.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:25:29pm
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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:26:18pm

Welp, Johnson County, KS has still only counted 20% of their votes (wonder if KKKris is standing by to weed out the voter fraud//) so I’m giving up the ghost and going to bed.

Still have hope that the absentees and provisionals could make Danny the winner in Ohio-12 and with that—goodnight all.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:26:54pm

re: #219 JordanRules

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Oh please! OH PLEASE!

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Kragar  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:28:27pm
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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:30:07pm

re: #219 JordanRules

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Not looking that good right now (but less than 40% counted)

Democratic Primary
Percent Candidate Votes
38% Brent Welder 14,400
33.8% Sharice Davids 12,788
14.4% Tom Niermann 5,465
6.3% Mike McCamon 2,404
4.7% Sylvia Williams 1,772
2.8% Jay Sidie 1,045
36.9% of precincts reporting (232/628)
37,874 total votes

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:30:30pm

re: #222 Kragar

Bill O was on the same bullshit tonight about LBJ.

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Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:32:40pm

So the GOP outspent the DNC 5:1 in OH-12 and, depending on the outcome of the provisional and absentee ballots, either won or lost by a razor-thin margin in a race that started with the R candidate the 10-point favorite and went for Trump by 11 points less than 2 years ago.

I’m sure this is just further proof that the “red wave” is coming to Congress in November.////

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BeachDem  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:34:52pm

re: #222 Kragar

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Hoarse always says it so simply:

(Why won’t I go to bed?)

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Targetpractice  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:35:32pm

re: #222 Kragar

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Sheriff Chocthkies still doesn’t seem to understand that all the water he’s carrying for Trump is not going to land him a job in the White House.

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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:46:21pm
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JordanRules  Aug 7, 2018 • 11:47:34pm

This is such bullshit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:19:57am

re: #229 JordanRules

incarcerated people can’t “volunteer’ their labor

the same way many of them “volunteered” their guilty pleas…

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:21:32am
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:28:36am
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Scout  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:31:48am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My issue is with NATO in general, not with Georgia in particular. I can understand that they might feel “safer” as part of a larger alliance, but NATO was created to counter the Warsaw Pact, which has been defunct since the start of the 90’s.

I know I’m being pedantic, but the Warsaw Pact was created to counter NATO.

NATO founded: 1949
Warsaw Pact founded: 1955

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:35:33am

re: #233 Scout

I know I’m being pedantic, but the Warsaw Pact was created to counter NATO.

NATO founded: 1949
Warsaw Pact founded: 1955

you got me on that one. point is, now that WP is defunct, NATO has really lost its reason to exist, and expanding it to include nations on the borders of Russia was really unnecessary.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:51:09am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you got me on that one. point is, now that WP is defunct, NATO has really lost its reason to exist, and expanding it to include nations on the borders of Russia was really unnecessary.

If it existed before WP how can the reasoning that it’s unnecessary now be based on the WP?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:56:29am

re: #235 JordanRules

If it existed before WP how can the reasoning that it’s unnecessary now be based on the WP?

It was created to counter a threat from the USSR and its satellite states. That political construct no longer exists.

Russia is still an issue, but I do not think that it is necessary to buck NATO right up to its borders.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:05:03am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was created to counter a threat from the USSR and its satellite states. That political construct no longer exists.

Russia is still an issue, but I do not think that it is necessary to buck NATO right up to its borders.

But NATO has basically absorbed the Warsaw Pact. What was two Treaty Alliances has become one. What it is now is a large group of nations sworn by treaty not to go to war with each other—and as long as they can keep Turkey out, the possibility of that happening is very small. I say the more the merrier—if Russia doesn’t like it, tough toenails.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:21:44am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was created to counter a threat from the USSR and its satellite states. That political construct no longer exists.

Russia is still an issue, but I do not think that it is necessary to buck NATO right up to its borders.

In the span of a decade, Russia has annexed large portions of two of its former satellite nations, has made open and hostile threats towards both if they should continue to become further aligned with the West, and is aggressively pursuing modernization programs for its armed forces.

The construct may have vanished, but the threat posed is still real.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:38:56am

The more I look at this thing, the more it seems like a deranged work of art. Literally every conspiracy theory is on there, all arranged in a very formal, symmetric order. It’s like the mind of an anal retentive schizophrenic.

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steve_davis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:08:49am

re: #88 JordanRules

First, I’d like to at least see the report.
I believe there were only 3 of us so me, GDFrank and Big Beautiful Door who disagreed with the majority in some fashion. I am certainly willing to weigh in on new developments.

To clarify a bit, I didn’t push for him to leave but I was fine with it.

I thought the thing on the plane was just him being rather immature. The woman who claimed he grabbed her ass during a picture taking just didn’t seem all that credible. Then more and more women started coming forward. He had to go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:17:40am

re: #238 Targetpractice

In the span of a decade, Russia has annexed large portions of two of its former satellite nations, has made open and hostile threats towards both if they should continue to become further aligned with the West, and is aggressively pursuing modernization programs for its armed forces.

The construct may have vanished, but the threat posed is still real.

I do not think that expanding NATO was the best way to deal with that threat. Russia is still a threat but not the same as was posed by the USSR and needs to be dealt with much differently.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:21:10am

AH-HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:23:04am

re: #217 vgranucci

And Elaine Chao is excluded due to not being a natural born citizen of the U. S.

You assume Republicans would care about that. They wouldn’t.

However, she is a she, so yeah, she’d be excluded.

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steve_davis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:26:01am

re: #161 BlueSpotinAL

Succession, with emphasis on the Suc.

first, if trump is impeached for anything having to do with Russian malfeasance, rather than run-of-the-mill corruption, Pence will be impeached with him, or told quietly in a backroom somewhere to resign. Democrats in the House simply aren’t going to stand for the government to stand that is the result of Russian manipulation. The whole lot would have to go from the White House. Second, the only way this happens is if the Democrats retake the House. And the Speaker of the House, maybe Pelosi, would take over. At that point, there would be another quiet word in a backroom where Trump’s supreme court choices would be asked to either resign or would be impeached. No way in hell are democrats going to tolerate having a Russian operative choose a generational supreme court majority.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:31:28am

re: #244 steve_davis

if trump is impeached for anything having to do with Russian malfeasance, rather than run-of-the-mill corruption, Pence will be impeached with him, or told quietly in a backroom somewhere to resign. …

Alternatively, I could see Pence being quietly told in a backroom that he will simply finish out what would’ve been Trump’s first term and then he will not, under any circumstances, run for POTUS.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:36:36am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:00:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:09:57am

re: #247 MsJ

Hackers are already attacking the U.S. midterm elections

And as long as the GOP sees no problem with that, do not expect them to undertake anything against it.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:17:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:20:03am

Back later.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:32:58am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:56:23am

I did not know Kucinich was running for OH governor.

He came in a very distant second.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:18:10am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:27:14am

This is insane. I have never seen anything like.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:54:15am

re: #251 MsJ

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This district went from a solid red to a photo finish in less than 2 years. If that doesn’t cause the GOP leadership to shit a brick, I don’t know what will by this point.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:55:36am

re: #255 Targetpractice

This district went from a solid red to a photo finish in less than 2 years. If that doesn’t cause the GOP leadership to shit a brick, I don’t know what will by this point.

I am most excited by how much money the gop is going to have to shell out in Texas.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:57:40am

re: #256 MsJ

I am most excited by how much money the gop is going to have to shell out in Texas.

Another bad sign for the GOP is they had to outspend the DNC by a 5:1 ratio and still brought it down provisional ballots and possible recount. They do not have the money to outspend 5:1 for every single contested seat in November.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:02:14am

Morning.

Saw this…I fought with myself all day yesterday on whether I did the right thing. Still fighting.

Sorry for caring Charlie.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:06:14am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Morning.

Saw this…I fought with myself all day yesterday on whether I did the right thing. Still fighting.

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Sorry for caring Charlie.

Don’t ever be sorry for caring. His illness is lashing out.

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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:29:23am

Imgur


Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:30:19am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Morning.

Saw this…I fought with myself all day yesterday on whether I did the right thing. Still fighting.

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Sorry for caring Charlie.

I hope he gets help. He’s a good poster but unfortunately a little impulsive. You did the right thing OA.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:30:35am

Despite the Dem nearly winning a ruby red seat, has the media starting clamoring how last night’s Democratic “loss” is yuge warning sign for the party?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:33:51am

re: #257 Targetpractice

Another bad sign for the GOP is they had to outspend the DNC by a 5:1 ratio and still brought it down provisional ballots and possible recount. They do not have the money to outspend 5:1 for every single contested seat in November.

Absolutely. And I’m glad that Trump is bragging about his “victory “ last night thinking he helped Balderdon win. I dunno guys. I think 2018 could be a blue wave and 2020 could be even better but we have to learn from 2006 and 2008 so 2010/14 don’t happen again. We will inevitably have bad years but we need to fight to preserve our majorities if/when we get em.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:33:56am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Despite the Dem nearly winning a ruby red seat, has the media starting clamoring how last night’s Democratic “loss” is yuge warning sign for the party?

They love knocking over straw men…

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:34:01am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Despite the Dem nearly winning a ruby red seat, has the media starting clamoring how last night’s Democratic “loss” is yuge warning sign for the party?

My guess is the “serious” pundits will say this is evidence that the DNC can’t hope to win in November unless they become off-brand Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:34:20am

re: #262 Dr. Matt

Despite the Dem nearly winning a ruby red seat, has the media starting clamoring how last night’s Democratic “loss” is yuge warning sign for the party?

I’m sure FNC has that hot take.

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lizardofid  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:37:50am

re: #258 ObserverArt

You shouldn’t feel bad about it. You made a hard call, for the very best of reasons..

just my .02

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:42:13am

re: #267 lizardofid

You shouldn’t feel bad about it. You made a hard call, for the very best of reasons..

just my .02

People have been taking Alex Jones seriously for all too long…

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:44:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:46:53am

re: #269 Belafon

Danny O’Connor, win or lose against Troy Balderson, has proven that a +11 Republican district, #OH12, can completely be wiped out by a #bluewave.

Republicans should be afraid, very afraid! The wave is coming for you!

Keep away from “blue wave” and just stick to a steady stream of voters.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:47:16am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:48:11am

re: #124 JordanRules

I like how the spin is always about the US’s need to improve relations with Russia.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:49:23am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. And I’m glad that Trump is bragging about his “victory “ last night thinking he helped Balderdon win. I dunno guys. I think 2018 could be a blue wave and 2020 could be even better but we have to learn from 2006 and 2008 so 2010/14 don’t happen again. We will inevitably have bad years but we need to fight to preserve our majorities if/when we get em.

My view is that if the Democrats gain control of Congress and the WH in 2020, they have to accept the likelihood that the GOP will come roaring back in the midterms, and use that two year window to do some big stuff to help the country, rather than be timid in the hopes they can cling to GOP leaning districts. They should view it as a 2 year mission for their country, rather than a career.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:50:36am

re: #258 ObserverArt

You did right. When someone yells for help, and he was, good people respond.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:51:32am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My issue is with NATO in general, not with Georgia in particular. I can understand that they might feel “safer” as part of a larger alliance, but NATO was created to counter the Warsaw Pact, which has been defunct since the start of the 90’s.

And now they feel threatened by Russia.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:52:36am

re: #222 Kragar

Oh I see Sheriff Bling is back.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:53:09am

re: #222 Kragar

Spoiled divas don’t make it to the top of their sport.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:55:11am

re: #277 Belafon

Spoiled divas don’t make it to the top of their sport.

Spoiled divas aren’t beloved by their teammates. LeBron is a team first guy. Always has been. Clarke knows less about sports than he does about politics, leo, & being a decent person. And that says a lot.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:55:54am

re: #229 JordanRules

This is such bullshit.

Actually, incarcerated people must volunteer to take on the job. They don’t pick you.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:57:15am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:58:04am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:59:12am

re: #271 Dave In Austin

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What a loser. And Kurt buddy, it will be you who cries in November. O’Connor lost the battle last night but you’re about to lose the war.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:00:45am

re: #275 Belafon

And now they feel threatened by Russia.

We need an alliance to keep Russia in check, I just do not think NATO is the way to go.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:00:52am

re: #281 goddamnedfrank

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I was reading up on her. Awesome story.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:01:39am

re: #130 Schweppes7

My favorite Obama tweets were him bragging about the narrow victories he pulled out for candidates in Dem +10 districts.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:01:50am

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

Or they could win them all in squeakers. We still have idiots voting for third parties for some strange reason. Sigh.

From electoral-vote.com today

There are times when it’s apropos to cast a protest ballot, but given the environmental record of the Trump administration, that time is not right now. One wonders what it will take for people to learn that a vote for the “ideal” third party candidate is, in effect, a vote for the least ideal major party candidate

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:02:01am

re: #276 Sir John Barron

Oh I see Sheriff Bling is back.

Trump: “People seem to be taking what I said about LeBron as racist. I know: Clarke, say what I would say, but the way a black man would!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:02:22am

re: #285 Sir John Barron

My favorite Obama tweets were him bragging about the narrow victories he pulled out for candidates in Dem +10 districts.

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winning is all that counts, no matter how you do it

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:03:18am

Kobach won by less than 200 votes? Did I read that right?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:04:23am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

winning is all that counts, no matter how you do it

Except things like this matter. It’s a harbinger. This as our Ohio lizards have told us is a reliable R district and Balderson still barely won despite his label and a 5:1 advantage in money.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:04:28am

re: #239 Ace-o-aces

I see the Lucifer Morning Star bit in the upper middle-right and all I think of is the TV show Lucifer. And then, how is TV associated with the conspiracy and “damn, that is one crazy ass drawing”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:05:07am

re: #214 JordanRules

If 75% of the people want it tho?

I understand why Georgia wants to be in NATO. The question is whether its in the best interest of current NATO members to stoke Russian paranoia by encircling it with NATO members.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:05:34am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Except things like this matter. It’s a harbinger. This as our Ohio lizards have told us is a reliable R district and Balderson still barely won despite his label and a 5:1 advantage in money.

I am simply talking about DTs bragging. He does not do harbinging.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:05:57am

re: #293 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am simply talking about DTs bragging. He does not do harbinging.

He’s an idiot.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:06:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:06:22am

re: #292 Big Beautiful Door

I understand why Georgia wants to be in NATO. The question is whether its in the best interest of current NATO members to stoke Russian paranoia by encircling it with NATO members.

That has been my issue with it from the days that they expanded up to Russia’s borders…

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:06:30am

re: #283 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We need an alliance to keep Russia in check, I just do not think NATO is the way to go.

Not exactly sure why you don’t like NATO. Lots of organizations change from their purpose over time. Georgia wants to be a part of a group that acts as if Russia is still a threat, because, guess what, Russia is still a threat. But, consider that the only time Article V was invoked, it wasn’t against Russia, but an entirely different threat.

And all this is the reason Putin has Trump trying to weaken it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:08:27am

NATO prevents war among the European nations and fosters good relations within the continent. It’s a good thing to have even if it’s original intention is gone.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:10:04am

re: #298 HappyWarrior

NATO prevents war among the European nations and fosters good relations within the continent. It’s a good thing to have even if it’s original intention is gone.

I agree. I just have doubts that letting Georgia join NATO will further those goals.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:10:42am

re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That has been my issue with it from the days that they expanded up to Russia’s borders…

Well maybe Russia shouldn’t threaten its neighbors or be more conscious of their history of interfering in their affairs.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:11:14am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

winning is all that counts, no matter how you do it

We weren’t going to win every contest, and in an R+12 district, it was going to be close. We’ve won a lot of others. Control of Congress isn’t based on this election, though, but about what happens in November.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:11:21am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s the day after the primary races across six states, and the hot takes are coming in fast and furious, so let me add mine.

The fact that everyone is fixated on a Democrat losing OH-12 by a hair is what is causing GOP strategists to pull out theirs.

This is a district that has been a safe GOP district for decades (going back like 80 years). Democrats have won it like one time in the last 40 years. The fact that this safe district nearly swung to Democrats is telling.

It also suggests that every other similar GOP district is at risk - and that turnout in November will be key to throwing the GOP out with the hope to restore checks and balances in Congress.

Moral victories are just that - moral. Trump gets to crow about holding on to the seats until November, and that the GOP still holds these seats. That means they can continue to do damage until November.

We need to translate moral victories into tangible ones with winning back Congress.

What we’re seeing is that Democrats messaging in these districts resonates. It doesn’t even have to be the same message everywhere - but getting Democrats elected is the starting point.

Winning elections is a start.

We’re also seeing more competitive races in the undercards (such as 7 term incumbent prosecutor in STL losing - huzzah!) Building up the local level card helps everyone too.

Trump and the GOP are intent on depressing turnout and suppressing minority voting. They know that turnout means they lose. They know that minority votes will go against them. They aren’t interested in governing for all Americans - only the millionaire white class, and using angry white guys to further their regressive and bigoted agenda that strips health coverage from millions so millionaires get tax cuts and pushes tariffs that harm American businesses and consumers so a handful of millionaire owners can eke out a few more million dollars in profit that they wont share with their employees.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:12:12am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Well maybe Russia shouldn’t threaten its neighbors or be more conscious of their history of interfering in their affairs.

Russia has an enormous diaspora of estimated 20-30 million native Russians living outside the Russian Federation. Those are Putin’s Sudetendeutsch and are going to cause problems for some generations

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:12:24am

Here’s an interesting question then: If Russia invades Georgia, what do you expect the West to do?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:12:59am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:13:38am

re: #299 Big Beautiful Door

Georgia has been invaded by Russia before, and Russia has shown a willingness to invade its neighbors to further its agenda. Russia engaged in cyberwarfare to further its efforts and misinformation campaigns are all part of the Russian efforts against the West.

Adding Georgia to NATO would provide more stability and reduce chances that Russia takes overt actions against Georgia or Ukraine. It would further constrain Russia’s objectives and limit their options.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:14:13am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

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What’s their problem with her? Sigh.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:16:47am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:17:30am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

What’s their problem with her? Sigh.

She does’t buy into magic-bean-o-nomics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:17:36am

The breakup of the USSR left Ukraine with the fifth largest nuclear arsenal in the world. We made a deal with them to disarm in return for promises that we would hep maintain their territorial integrity.

Since we reneged on that deal, would it not only be fair to give them back their nukes?

What the fuck can we do when Russia invades Georgia again? Have an intern copy and paste a Wiki article for a US Senator to read in protest?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:18:24am

re: #244 steve_davis

first, if trump is impeached for anything having to do with Russian malfeasance, rather than run-of-the-mill corruption, Pence will be impeached with him, or told quietly in a backroom somewhere to resign. Democrats in the House simply aren’t going to stand for the government to stand that is the result of Russian manipulation. The whole lot would have to go from the White House. Second, the only way this happens is if the Democrats retake the House. And the Speaker of the House, maybe Pelosi, would take over. At that point, there would be another quiet word in a backroom where Trump’s supreme court choices would be asked to either resign or would be impeached. No way in hell are democrats going to tolerate having a Russian operative choose a generational supreme court majority.

The problem with your theory is that GOP Senators would have to go along with forcing Pence and Justices to resign, and they won’t. Heck, even if by some miracle the Democrats got 67 Senators, I doubt they would all go along with impeaching Supreme Court Justices.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:18:37am

re: #310 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Make them part of NATO.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:20:14am

re: #245 Dr Lizardo

Alternatively, I could see Pence being quietly told in a backroom that he will simply finish out what would’ve been Trump’s first term and then he will not, under any circumstances, run for POTUS.

I want Pence to be the GOP nominee for President. He’d lose bigly.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:20:22am

re: #309 goddamnedfrank

She does’t buy into magic-bean-o-nomics.

Ah ha

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:20:29am

re: #312 Belafon

Make them part of NATO.

arguing in circles here

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:21:53am

re: #254 MsJ

This is insane. I have never seen anything like.

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Welcome to Hell.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:22:21am

The two great world wars happened because the sovereignty of small nations wasn’t respected. NATO gives Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltics, etc some insurance that Serbia and Czechoslovakia did not have in 1914 & 1938.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:23:01am

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

I want Pence to be the GOP nominee for President. He’d lose bigly.

I do too. But I thought Trump would too.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:23:32am

SHIT! Double post.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:25:06am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

The two great world wars happened because the sovereignty of small nations wasn’t respected. NATO gives Georgia, Ukraine, the Baltics, etc some insurance that Serbia and Czechoslovakia did not have in 1914 & 1938.

I thought that WW1 started because Russia stood up for Serbia and GB stood up for Belgium…

The point is that the we are still dealing with the dissolution of the USSR much as Europe in 1914 found itself dealing with the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:26:48am

re: #289 MsJ

Kobach won by less than 200 votes? Did I read that right?

Its not over yet.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:27:18am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought that WW1 started because Russia stood up for Serbia and GB stood up for Belgium…

The point is that the we are still dealing with the dissolution of the USSR much as Europe in 1914 found itself dealing with the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire.

And do you not remember that Austria bullied Serbia with impossible demands and that Germany invaded Belgium, a neutral nation. Yes, we still deal with the implications of 1914 which is why strong alliances are necessary.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:30:44am

re: #306 lawhawk

Georgia has been invaded by Russia before, and Russia has shown a willingness to invade its neighbors to further its agenda. Russia engaged in cyberwarfare to further its efforts and misinformation campaigns are all part of the Russian efforts against the West.

Adding Georgia to NATO would provide more stability and reduce chances that Russia takes overt actions against Georgia or Ukraine. It would further constrain Russia’s objectives and limit their options.

Or, it convinces Russia that NATO is set on regime change in Moscow, and they immediately invade Georgia, daring us to make a military response.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:31:10am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:33:46am

re: #318 HappyWarrior

I do too. But I thought Trump would too.

Yea, but if Trump is removed from office because GOP Senators vote along with the Democrats to remove him, the Trump base will think Pence was in on the conspiracy. It will tear the GOP apart at the seams.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:34:19am

re: #325 Big Beautiful Door

Yea, but if Trump is removed from office because GOP Senators vote along with the Democrats to remove him, the Trump base will think Pence was in on the conspiracy. It will tear the GOP apart at the seams.

True

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:34:56am

re: #324 MsJ

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The whole party are becoming more like Trump. Childish and stupid and thin skinned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:35:57am

re: #324 MsJ

Arizona GOP candidate melts down and accuses newspaper of printing ‘fake news’ after they endorse her Republican rival

It is so much fun to watch them turn on themselves like that and reveal that “fake news” is in essence “anything that makes me look bad”.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:36:50am

Manafort trial day 7 link.

In case anyone else is following.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:38:06am

It’s Kelli Ward of course.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:38:36am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:39:41am
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ipsos  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:42:42am

re: #331 MsJ

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WHAT?!? This is terrific news in the next district over from me. Collins already has a terrible rep locally as being unresponsive to constituents and owned by outside interests. Please please please let this sink him.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:42:48am

re: #295 Archangelus

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I hope she then tells all us immigrants to GO HOME!!!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:44:39am

I remember this

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:45:53am

re: #331 MsJ

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Trump’s earliest Congressional backer.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:46:44am

From last night. I know some will not want to watch this, but it was so out of control it is a record of where we are at.

I thought the piece started out well with the comparisons of Pat Buchanan rhetoric to Trump. But then can you expect someone like Candace Owens to actually debate Michael Eric Dyson? Hell no…so it went downhill fast.

Iframe

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:47:40am

I really hope that AOC eventually learns that Bernie is a toxic fuck-weasel.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:49:55am

re: #331 MsJ

Peter Alexander ✔
@PeterAlexander
JUST IN: Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY), Trump’s earliest congressional backer, arrested by the FBI on securities fraud-related charges, via @jonathan4ny

9:19 AM - Aug 8, 2018

Heh, every time I saw him in an interview he seemed like he was nervous and had shifty eyes, etc. Maybe he was worried what the interviewer was going to be asking or something.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:53:05am

re: #331 MsJ

Out of Control FBI! Very political! Peter Strzock and Mueller are behind this! What about Hillary emails corruption! Drain the Swamp!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:53:06am

re: #338 goddamnedfrank

I really hope that AOC eventually learns that Bernie is a toxic fuck-weasel.

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I do too.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:53:22am

This is one hell of a statement.

…but not so red that Democrats don’t have a shot…

Wow.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:53:34am

re: #324 MsJ

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Oh, the woman who wanted McCain to step so they could appoint her.

She can go sit down and be quiet.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 6:55:18am

re: #331 MsJ

It’s a Friday night news dump come early..

Wait. It’s a Wednesday morning? Damn… ;)

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:00:00am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:03:04am

Such a way with words.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:03:58am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:09:13am

re: #337 ObserverArt

From last night. I know some will not want to watch this, but it was so out of control it is a record of where we are at.

I thought the piece started out well with the comparisons of Pat Buchanan rhetoric to Trump. But then can you expect someone like Candace Owens to actually debate Michael Eric Dyson? Hell no…so it went downhill fast.

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I saw where that was going from the start. She’ll never find herself on anything but Faux or NRATV if she keeps that crap up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:09:58am

re: #348 Dave In Austin

I saw where that was going from the start. She’ll never find herself on anything but Faux or NRATV if she keeps that crap up.

That’s probably what she wants. A political safe space.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:10:08am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:14:26am

re: #350 goddamnedfrank

Arrabiata.

There can be only one.

Eddie Izzard- Death Star Canteen

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:15:04am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:16:10am

It never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ends.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:17:39am

Weeeeee…..

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Weaselone  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:18:04am

re: #350 goddamnedfrank

Pesto. Go green!

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:18:09am

Man, Candace Owens is fucking annoying. That is all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:18:47am

re: #353 MsJ

It never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ends.

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Virginia just got a bit bluer.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:20:03am

You know what is shocking to me? That her firm didn’t know about this until she gave her testimony.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:20:46am

re: #344 lawhawk

It’s a Friday night news dump come early..

Wait. It’s a Wednesday morning? Damn… ;)

Is Fox News telling its viewers that Collins is a Dem?

not sure if /

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:22:22am

re: #358 MsJ

You know what is shocking to me? That her firm didn’t know about this until she gave her testimony.

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They knew. They were fine with it until everyone else knew.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:23:03am

re: #359 Sir John Barron

Is Fox News telling its viewers that Collins is a Dem?

not sure if /

That was my first thought.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:23:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:23:30am

re: #332 lawhawk

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That’s been known for years and years………….well, except for FNC viewers, perhaps.

I had a student about 10 years ago that overstayed her visa in the US - she lived there (illegally) for close to four years. Worked a cash job under the table. Hell, she even came back to Czech Republic with enough $$$ left over to buy herself a used car.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:25:40am

re: #360 goddamnedfrank

They knew. They were fine with it until everyone else knew.

Basically she was fired as a probably futile stoploss measure to assuage the fears of their other corrupt clients. I’m guessing the entire firm folds within three to six months.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:26:22am

re: #358 MsJ

You know what is shocking to me? That her firm didn’t know about this until she gave her testimony.

Pretty sure the firm was “shocked” that she was nailed so efficiently to wall rather than that she had been filing false information. But, I’m a cynic and maybe their oversight was for shit.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:27:02am

re: #279 Belafon

Actually, incarcerated people must volunteer to take on the job. They don’t pick you.

I know this and I do not think people in prison volunteer labor in the same way I don’t think Sally Hemmings dated Thomas Jefferson.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:27:08am

re: #363 Dr Lizardo

That’s been known for years and years………….well, except for FNC viewers, perhaps.

I had a student about 10 years ago that overstayed her visa in the US - she lived there (illegally) for close to four years. Worked a cash job under the table. Hell, she even came back to Czech Republic with enough $$$ left over to buy herself a used car.

FNC wants to paint a picture of illegal immigrants being Hispanics sneaking over the border but yeah this isn’t news to anyone who actually pays attention to immigration law and nuance.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:27:22am

Kobach still beating that dead horse. Kris…it’s dead. Just stop already.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:27:59am

re: #364 goddamnedfrank

Basically she was fired as a probably futile stoploss measure to assuage the fears of their other corrupt clients. I’m guessing the entire firm folds within three to six months.

I was thinking the firm couldn’t be long for the world. Either they are deeply corrupt or too fucking stupid to retain clients.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:28:01am

re: #368 MsJ

Kobach still beating that dead horse. Kris…it’s dead. Just stop already.

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Oh?

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:28:21am

Republican Party - Only the best people.

Pfffft.

The whole party is corrupt. Blow it the fuck up!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:30:37am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

FNC wants to paint a picture of illegal immigrants being Hispanics sneaking over the border but yeah this isn’t news to anyone who actually pays attention to immigration law and nuance.

But…but…there are vans and busses of illegals pouring over our border from Mex and El Salvador and Gautemala and….

//

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:31:45am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

FNC wants to paint a picture of illegal immigrants being Hispanics sneaking over the border but yeah this isn’t news to anyone who actually pays attention to immigration law and nuance.

Exactly. My former student didn’t really stand out (well, to be honest, she was tall: a hair over 6’ 1”, blue eyes and strawberry blonde) but your average FNC viewer wouldn’t even look twice at her (well, maybe not as an illegal alien….you know what I mean). She’s not brown or black.

The reason she was in my English class was so she wouldn’t forget her English - her English was outstanding, and I would sometimes have her translate things for the more basic-level students….she became my unofficial teacher’s assistant.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:34:39am

re: #373 Dr Lizardo

Exactly. My former student didn’t really stand out (well, to be honest, she was tall: a hair over 6’ 1”, blue eyes and strawberry blonde) but your average FNC viewer wouldn’t even look twice at her (well, maybe not as an illegal alien….you know what I mean). She’s not brown or black.

The reason she was in my English class was so she wouldn’t forget her English - her English was outstanding, and I would sometimes have her translate things for the more basic-level students….she became my unofficial teacher’s assistant.

I think it’s funny how both of Trump’s foreign born wives have questions about how they emigrated. Trump’s mom does too iirc. It’s almost like the anti immigrant movement is one giant projection.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:35:00am

re: #347 Dave In Austin

I’m waiting for—

Corrupt FBI staged this phony arrest just to distract from yuuuuge MAGA win last night in OH-12!!!1 Purge the FBI!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:35:41am

re: #375 Sir John Barron

I’m waiting for—

Corrupt FBI staged this phony arrest just to distract from yuuuuge MAGA win last night in OH-12!!!1 Purge the FBI!!!

That, that wouldn’t shock me and the day is young.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:36:19am

re: #258 ObserverArt

Morning.

Saw this…I fought with myself all day yesterday on whether I did the right thing. Still fighting.

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Sorry for caring Charlie.

You did good. The sufferer is the last person to be judging the intervention (until long after the fact).

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:38:23am

re: #265 Targetpractice

My guess is the “serious” pundits will say this is evidence that the DNC can’t hope to win in November unless they become off-brand Republicans.

I hope so. Also that Repugs everywhere read it, take comfort and become complacent. Confusion to the enemy.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:40:35am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:42:00am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:42:07am

This story is fucking insane.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:42:48am

The Green party is close enough to the margin in OH-12 to make it interesting.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:45:01am

re: #1 Brian J.

Just seven OH-12 precincts left and Balderson’s lead is now 1,685 votes. I think that one is over. At least the margin is now more than the f***ing Green vote.

That anyone is voting Green at all after Stein’s dalliance with Putin simply amazes me. They really don’t give a damn.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:45:54am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:45:56am

re: #377 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

You did good. The sufferer is the last person to be judging the intervention (until long after the fact).

I’ll level with you all. I’ve suffered from depression and anxiety for years so I know a little of the self doubt that those with that go through. I like TSG. He’s a good person and poster and I hope he knows people care about him here.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:46:07am

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

This story is fucking insane.

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And these three pricks who are unofficially trying to run the VA are frustrated that what they are telling people to do are not getting done (HOP TO IT!) even when there is no legal means to do what they want. It’s like trump trying to run government like a business. Government is not a business.

Fuck all these fucking people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:46:29am

re: #380 lawhawk

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Exactly.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:48:10am

re: #383 Patricia Kayden

That anyone is voting Green at all after Stein’s dalliance with Putin simply amazes me. They really don’t give a damn.

Having just spent a week with my non-political-junkie relatives, I think the issue is not caring, but being too absorbed with daily living shit to pay attention to such details.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:48:45am

I’ve said this here before and I mean it as a bricklayer’s grandson. I’d rather have business people in our party who believe in equality for all than blue collars who don’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:50:09am

re: #375 Sir John Barron

I’m waiting for—

Corrupt FBI staged this phony arrest just to distract from yuuuuge MAGA win last night in OH-12!!!1 Purge the FBI!!!

How dare we suppress free expression of opinion?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:50:48am
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:51:30am

re: #383 Patricia Kayden

That anyone is voting Green at all after Stein’s dalliance with Putin simply amazes me. They really don’t give a damn.

People been voting Green and always will. Gotta keep their numbers tiny, expose any outright GOP sabotage and not give them too much oxygen.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:53:44am

re: #392 JordanRules

People been voting Green and always will. Gotta keep their numbers tiny, expose any outright GOP sabotage and not give them too much oxygen.

Some always will. The one Green I knew denounced the party over Stein’s ties to Putin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:55:21am

re: #391 goddamnedfrank

Accounts like Jones’ can often sensationalize issues and spread unsubstantiated rumors, so it’s critical journalists document, validate, and refute such information directly so people can form their own opinions. This is what serves the public conversation best.

Maintaining an information outlet, a newspaper or broadcasting station, used to be a cost-intensive undertaking and it was in the interest of the operators to also maintain a certain standard of quality for the information they spread.

Now it takes minimal overhead to run a podcast or website and the quality of the information has gone down along with the overhead costs.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:55:30am

re: #393 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Some always will. The one Green I knew denounced the party over Stein’s ties to Putin.

At least Nader asshole he is actually accomplished things before running. What has Jill Stein done for progressive causes that Obama and HRC haven’t?

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:56:14am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:59:22am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 7:59:46am

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

……In one instance, Perlmutter alerted Shulkin to what he called “another real-life example of the issues our great veterans are suffering with when trying to work with the VA.” The example came from Karen Donnelly, a real estate agent in Palm Beach who manages the tennis courts in the luxury community where Perlmutter lives. Donnelly’s son was having trouble accessing his military medical records. After a month of dead ends, Donnelly said she saw Perlmutter on the tennis court and, knowing his connection to Trump, asked him for help. Perlmutter told her to email him the story because he’s “trying to straighten things out” at the VA, she recalled. (Donnelly separately touched off a nasty legal dispute between Perlmutter and a neighbor, Canadian businessman Harold Peerenboom, who objected to her management of the tennis courts. In a lawsuit, Peerenboom accused Perlmutter of mounting a vicious hate mail campaign against him, which Perlmutter’s lawyer denied.)

Perlmutter forwarded Donnelly’s email to Shulkin, Moskowitz and Sherman. “I know we are making very good progress, but this is an excellent reminder that we are also still very far away from achieving our goals,” Perlmutter wrote.

Shulkin had to explain that they were looking in the wrong place: Since the problem was with military service records, it lay with the Defense Department, not the VA..
……..

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:01:40am

re: #396 JordanRules

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He’s done a lot in Akron. Shut the fuck up about Chicago. Stop using Chicago to attack black people.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:02:55am

re: #398 Stanley Sea

Insane.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:03:05am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

He’s done a lot in Akron. Shut the fuck up about Chicago. Stop using Chicago to attack black people.

It’s what they do.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:03:23am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:03:31am

You know who is actually in the position and power to better Chicago? Republican Governor Bruce Rauner. Telling LeBron to fix Chicago’s problems is stupid especially since he’s helping his own home city.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:04:58am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

He’s done a lot in Akron. Shut the fuck up about Chicago. Stop using Chicago to attack black people.

I seriously think there’s a Republican/NRA conspiracy. A gun smuggling ring with them all involved to do this to Chicago.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:05:05am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:05:27am

From the Manafort trial:

Addressing defense questioning of Gates’s motivations for testifying, Andres asked again about Gates’s plea deal and the prison time he faces. Did Gates think he faced up to 200 years in prison on charges out of the federal court in Alexandria, Andres asked? Gates said he thought he would face a lesser sentence. Ellis interjected, asking how short Gates thought the sentence would be. “I thought it was in the range of 100 years your honor,” Gates said.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:05:45am

re: #404 GlutenFreeJesus

I seriously think there’s a Republican/NRA conspiracy. A gun smuggling ring with them all involved to do this to Chicago.

Something is up.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:07:17am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:08:17am

Hell I expect Jones to be involved in something involving kids given how he talks about people.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:08:32am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:10:16am

re: #410 MsJ

GOP officials in Illinois have withdrawn support for congressional nominee Bill Fawell after reporting about him spreading conspiracy theories surfaced:http://

Been thru this before: the GOP had a chance to call out or at least distance themselves from CT kooks but did not want to alienate their base. That started an attention-grabbing race to the bottom, and we still have not it yet.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:13:24am

re: #402 GlutenFreeJesus

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:16:43am
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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:17:36am

re: #402 GlutenFreeJesus

My life is complete.

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Oh, dear. I just sent that to the biggest Slayer fan in the world.

There will be repercussions, I fear.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:18:03am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:18:49am

re: #415 JordanRules

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Buckley was a fascist fuck who I do not miss.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:21:46am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:22:03am

re: #396 JordanRules

Why’s Bill O ranting about LeBron?

Rhetorical question.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:22:31am

re: #417 MsJ

Hillary has been very busy with her retirement. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:23:36am

Buckley: Butt tattoos, Apartheid apologist in the 80’s, & echoing the KKK line on Civil Rights. He was well spoken sure but that just means he was an articulate bigoted prick.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:23:44am

re: #338 goddamnedfrank

I really hope that AOC eventually learns that Bernie is a toxic fuck-weasel.

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The true test will be if she backs the candidates who have won the primaries.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:23:52am

I do not understand anything anymore. I am confused.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:24:03am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:24:10am

re: #414 makeitstop

Oh, dear. I just sent that to the biggest Slayer fan in the world.

There will be repercussions, I fear.

Curious as to their reaction. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:24:32am

re: #418 Sir John Barron

Why’s Bill O ranting about LeBron?

Rhetorical question.

No co workers to harass or wives to beat.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:25:41am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Buckley was a fascist fuck who I do not miss.

Why the South Must Prevail.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:25:42am

re: #422 MsJ

I do not understand anything anymore. I am confused.

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I’d just go with Trump lies, on this one.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:26:49am

Good, very good.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:27:18am

re: #426 Big Beautiful Door

Why the South Must Prevail.

Yep. Fuck WFB. He was a malign influence on this country. The people who push him as WFB the thoughtful aren’t the ones that WFB wanted to make second class citizens. They’re wealthy white guys like WFB was with sticks in his ass.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:27:55am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:28:19am

re: #286 dangerman

There are times when it’s apropos to cast a protest ballot, but given the environmental record of the Trump administration, that time is not right now. One wonders what it will take for people to learn that a vote for the “ideal” third party candidate is, in effect, a vote for the least ideal major party candidate

2016 proved that it’s NEVER EVER apropos to cast a protest ballot. Sadly, most of America has short attention spans and 10 years from now will have completely forgot about the Donnie shit show just like they have all but forgotten the dubyah shit show.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:28:32am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:28:51am

re: #424 GlutenFreeJesus

As if that wont bake your noodle - take NIN and mash it with Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift vs. Nine Inch Nails - Shake It Off (The Perfect Drug)

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:31:01am

re: #422 MsJ

I do not understand anything anymore. I am confused.

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Rosenstein is a Republican, so its not surprising if he sees eye-to-eye with Trump on many non-Trump related issues.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:33:25am

Staten Island GOP bastion y’all:

silive.com

And yeah, they cribbed Mike Holmes (from HGTV) to create that idiotic Trump pose.

They think this triggers liberals?

No. Rampant criminal misconduct by everyone associated with Trump does. Ignoring the rule of law does. Being a Russian potted plant does. Trump’s compromised and complicit and ignoring his oath of office does.

These fuckers think that triggering liberals is important?

They’re a goddamned cult.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:35:02am

re: #435 lawhawk

Staten Island GOP bastion y’all:

silive.com

And yeah, they cribbed Mike Holmes (from HGTV) to create that idiotic Trump pose.

They think this triggers liberals?

No. Rampant criminal misconduct by everyone associated with Trump does. Ignoring the rule of law does. Being a Russian potted plant does. Trump’s compromised and complicit and ignoring his oath of office does.

These fuckers think that triggering liberals is important?

They’re a goddamned cult.

They really think we’re triggered but they’re the ones who flip out over coffee cups and Happy Holidays.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:36:16am

re: #434 Big Beautiful Door

Rosenstein is a Republican, so its not surprising if he sees eye-to-eye with Trump on many non-Trump related issues.

Remember, this is a party that cannot pass legislation even with a majority in Congress

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:37:10am

re: #435 lawhawk

Meanwhile, most liberals are not actually triggered and just look down on these fools as simpleton White trash behaving like bonafide cultists.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:37:12am

re: #432 JordanRules

My new book: How to make a bundle off the conservative movement.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:37:36am

re: #439 MsJ

My new book: How to make a bundle off the conservative movement.

Oooh

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:38:01am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:38:22am

re: #439 MsJ

My new book: How to make a bundle off the conservative movement.

Too late. Ann Coulter made her fame and fortune writing that exact same book over and over and over from the 90s through today.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:39:29am

Where is the faux outrage from those fiscally responsible teabaggers et al.?

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:39:40am

re: #433 lawhawk

As if that wont bake your noodle - take NIN and mash it with Taylor Swift.

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That was crazy good.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:41:18am

re: #424 GlutenFreeJesus

Curious as to their reaction. ;)

Might be in all caps with profanity. :)

I’ll let you know.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:41:27am

re: #442 Dr. Matt

Too late. Ann Coulter made her fame and fortune writing that exact same book over and over and over from the 90s through today.

Always a day late and a million short.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:42:22am

re: #443 Dr. Matt

Where is the faux outrage from those fiscally responsible teabaggers et al.?

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They’re too busy counting their ill-gotten gains.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:43:03am

re: #422 MsJ

I do not understand anything anymore. I am confused.

Do Gym Jordan et al still want to *squint* impeach Rosenstein?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:45:01am

re: #448 Sir John Barron

Do Gym Jordan et al still want to *squint* impeach Rosenstein?

Gym Jordan is waiting to receive his latest marching orders from Putin.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:46:04am

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:47:29am

re: #446 MsJ

Always a day late and a million short.

Then again, you can alway assume an identity of some demographic that the GOP loathes, become a hardcore a hardcore supporter, and then make your millions. Perhaps, a vegan Muslim lesbian who identifies as a two-spirit?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:49:35am

Thread

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Interesting Times  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:56:01am

Ha:

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:56:54am

re: #443 Dr. Matt

Cheetohlini eans into mike, Wrong

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:57:36am

This. And it goes for Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt, Jennifer Rubin, etc., etc., etc.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:57:50am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 8, 2018 • 8:59:49am

So, I saw Jack Dorsey trending. For once, I hoped it was news of his demise.

I don’t even feel that when I see TRUMP trending.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:01:46am

Consistently inconsistent.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:03:07am
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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:03:49am

re: #456 JordanRules

Trump picked Manafort to run his campaign. He didn’t care despite all the warning signs.

That was because Trump thought those warning signs would benefit him and personal loyalty is more important than competence or lawful actions.

Trump picked Flynn as his NSA despite all the warning signs.

He did that because he thinks personal loyalty more important than national security.

This is the pattern.

Trump surrounded himself with con men, grifters, and criminals. They all are engaged in the grift and looking to grab everything that isn’t bolted down. Kushner and Ivanka too. Personal profit while everyone else pays for their mistakes (and that trade war is just the latest disaster).

We saw that with Pruitt too. And Mnuchin. And Ross. And all those I’ve neglected to mention.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:04:33am

re: #455 MsJ

This. And it goes for Nicole Wallace, Steve Schmidt, Jennifer Rubin, etc., etc., etc.

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That’s a very old Tweet. You might as well attack Charles over what LGF was.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:05:03am

re: #461 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s a very old Tweet. You might as well attack Charles over what LGF was.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:06:16am
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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:07:11am

re: #438 Dr. Matt

Meanwhile, most liberals are not actually triggered and just look down on these fools as simpleton White trash behaving like bonafide cultists.

It’s Staten Island, dude. Mookville.

(Apologies in advance for any non-mook Lizards who live on Staten.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:07:59am

re: #462 MsJ

As you see, now he’s working against Trump. Nadine seems to be the kind of person who helped Trump win by being an unforgiving purist.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:10:55am

re: #465 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

As you see, now he’s working against Trump. Nadine seems to be the kind of person who helped Trump win by being an unforgiving purist.

None of them have said they renounce republican “values”. What I said is this is temporary. And it is.

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:14:47am

re: #466 MsJ

None of them have said they renounce republican “values”. What I said is this is temporary. And it is.

Yeah, I’ve noticed that Wilson studiously avoids comment on a lot of what Trump does (tax cut and border crimes in particular).

That said, if he swings other teetering conservatives to the anti-Trump side, I’m good with that. We can disagree with his conservatism in general while applauding his broadsides against Trump.

I can, anyway. YMMV.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:16:40am

re: #466 MsJ

None of them have said they renounce republican “values”. What I said is this is temporary. And it is.

Of course they haven’t. They’re against what Republican values led to, but they still have those values. They can still be allies against a man who rejects Western values, even if they’re likely to repeat their mistake when Trump is gone.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:18:40am

Speaking of…have we learned anymore about Kavanaugh’s funny money?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:19:17am
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:19:56am
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:20:46am

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Buckley was a fascist fuck who I do not miss.

he (purportedly) said one thing i agree with - he was talking about the cia and kgb.
today it works more generally just fine:

…the equivalent of saying that the man who pushes an old lady into the path of a hurtling bus is not to be distinguished from the man who pushes an old lady out of the path of a hurtling bus: on the grounds that, after all, in both cases someone is pushing old ladies around.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:21:03am

re: #422 MsJ

I do not understand anything anymore. I am confused.

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I think it is called “positioning” so he doesn’t look like the bad guy if Rosenstein is run out of his position.

If not that, he is buttering him up hoping Rosenstein can maybe call Mueller off.

One thing is for sure, it is not genuine. Trump cannot do genuine.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:21:21am

re: #467 makeitstop

Yeah, I’ve noticed that Wilson studiously avoids comment on a lot of what Trump does (tax cut and border crimes in particular).

That said, if he swings other teetering conservatives to the anti-Trump side, I’m good with that. We can disagree with his conservatism in general while applauding his broadsides against Trump.

I can, anyway. YMMV.

I agree. I will take any help we can get. But the value of understanding those we accept, or in my case tolerate, with the understanding that these are not friends, they are only compatriots against trumpism, not republicanism (which is only a shade or two off of trumpism). They all helped bring US to the point we are at.

I am of the Never Forget camp. And I won’t. Not until I see long-term, actual, real and lasting change in thought and ideology. And thus far, I don’t.

Good on them for any help we can get to keep this republic and democracy. They helped break it, it is the very least they can do. Beyond that, it remains to be seen.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:21:33am

This presser on Collins’ crimes is wow.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:22:12am

re: #468 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of course they haven’t. They’re against what Republican values led to, but they still have those values. They can still be allies against a man who rejects Western values, even if they’re likely to repeat their mistake when Trump is gone.

They were driving the car that led us to where we are.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:22:14am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:23:18am

re: #472 dangerman

[Buckley] (purportedly) said one thing i agree with - he was talking about the cia and kgb.
today it works more generally just fine:

I often cite that as an example of headline vs article:

Man Throws Baby Out of Window

A man ran into a burning house to rescue a baby by throwing it out a window to rescuers waiting below.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:23:38am
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:23:54am

re: #477 The Vicious Babushka

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makeitstop  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:24:58am

re: #474 MsJ

I agree. I will take any help we can get. But the value of understanding those we accept, or in my case tolerate, with the understanding that these are not friends, they are only compatriots against trumpism, not republicanism (which is only a shade or two off of trumpism). They all helped bring US to the point we are at.

I am of the Never Forget camp. And I won’t. Not until I see long-term, actual, real and lasting change in thought and ideology. And thus far, I don’t.

Good on them for any help we can get to keep this republic and democracy. They helped break it, it is the very least they can do. Beyond that, it remains to be seen.

Agreed.

I enjoy watching him piss the Red Hats off, which he does very well. But I’m still an opposite number of his, and I still consider him an enemy of liberalism.

He’s a damned funny one, though.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:26:10am

re: #476 MsJ

They were driving the car that led us to where we are.

And they’ll try to drive us there again before they realize what they’ve done and turn back from the extremism yet again. It’s an endless loop that becomes a spiral if we don’t join together between the cycles of right-wing extremism.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:34:09am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

But…but…there are vans and busses of illegals pouring over our border from Mex and El Salvador and Gautemala and….

//

And (because Kris Kobach is in the news) also there are vans and buses of illegal voters pouring over the border from Massachusetts to New Hampshire…

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:34:58am

re: #482 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s an endless loop that becomes a spiral if we don’t join together between the cycles of right-wing extremism.

I first read that as ‘existential loop’. That would be too much. But maybe that’s what it is.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:35:00am

re: #478 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I often cite that as an example of headline vs article:

Man Throws Baby Out of Window

A man ran into a burning house to rescue a baby by throwing it out a window to rescuers waiting below.

spot on

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:37:20am

re: #456 JordanRules

Hey, man, whatever it takes to win.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:37:44am

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

This story is fucking insane.

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Yep—I was gobsmacked when I read that article last night.

While he’s madly tweeting about candidate who “love our troops” his buddies at MaraGaudy are taking over the VA. So repulsive.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:38:50am
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:39:37am
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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:44:46am

re: #383 Patricia Kayden

That anyone is voting Green at all after Stein’s dalliance with Putin simply amazes me. They really don’t give a damn.

And especially for that particular Green candidate—who could see that guy and think, “Yeah, he’d make a great representative for us.”

(Somebody posted this last night—can’t remember who it was, but wow.)

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:45:18am

re: #489 MsJ

Yes indeed. Charity taxes on the poor and not poor yet folks because the rich folks refuse to help us fund a healthy society.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:45:33am

re: #490 BeachDem

And especially for that particular Green candidate—who could see that guy and think, “Yeah, he’d make a great representative for us.”

(Somebody posted this last night—can’t remember who it was, but wow.)

I had a website?

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:46:19am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:46:20am

re: #489 MsJ

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Yeah. Im sorry but in our country, a teacher should be able to afford transportation for work without crowdfunding. Props to the student. Great kid but shame on our society.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:47:44am

I have a new thing:

oxo.com

I have teriyaki marinade and three chicken breasts…yeah, life is good.

Also this from my Twittering…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:48:37am

re: #495 Sufficient unto the day…

I have a new thing:

oxo.com

I have teriyaki marinade and three chicken breasts…yeah, life is good.

Also this from my Twittering…

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Meth labs are people too my friend.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:50:02am

re: #492 Sir John Barron

I had a website?

So, just dial-up your 800 baud modem, head over to AOL, and then, uh, you know….search with alta vista on your netscape navigator and then, yeah, uh…enter your social security number on my page and, well, yeah…there you go.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:50:57am

re: #497 Dr. Matt

So, just dial-up your 800 baud modem, head over to AOL, and then, uh, you know….search with alta vista on your netscape navigator and then, yeah, uh…enter your social security number on my page and, well, yeah…there you go.

Should that be “300”?

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:51:46am

re: #498 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Should that be “300”?

and “Ask Jeeves”?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:52:12am

re: #479 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s because Jones is a Private Business not a Big Corporate Business but a real business who is so independent and free enterprise that his business depends on those larger Public businesses run by the government like FB and Apple.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:52:43am

re: #499 dangerman

and “Ask Jeeves”?

Geocities!

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:52:48am

re: #417 MsJ

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And I see the biggest crackpot of them all, Liz Crokin, is all in with Q—because of course she is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:55:03am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:55:08am

re: #498 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Should that be “300”?

He bought the special 800 baud modem on pets.com. But, it didn’t arrive until 2003.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:58:51am

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

I’m sorry to see Rude not being rude at all, going all soft in his old age.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 9:59:09am

re: #495 Sufficient unto the day…

I have a new thing:

oxo.com

I have teriyaki marinade and three chicken breasts…yeah, life is good.

Also this from my Twittering…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:00:03am

re: #504 Dr. Matt

He bought the special 800 baud modem on pets.com. But, it didn’t arrive until 2003.

I clicked that link, and now I want a puppy. My cat would not be OK with that.

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:00:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:01:14am

re: #503 The Vicious Babushka

Note to people responding to me: I didn’t call Alex Jones a “Nazi.” I called him an “asshole.”

not all assholes are nazis but all nazis are assholes

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:03:32am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:03:38am

I had my postdoc spend the evening running data through his neural networks to generate this Venn Diagram. Stunning results.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:04:08am

re: #435 lawhawk

Staten Island GOP bastion y’all:

silive.com

And yeah, they cribbed Mike Holmes (from HGTV) to create that idiotic Trump pose.

They think this triggers liberals?

No. Rampant criminal misconduct by everyone associated with Trump does. Ignoring the rule of law does. Being a Russian potted plant does. Trump’s compromised and complicit and ignoring his oath of office does.

These fuckers think that triggering liberals is important?

They’re a goddamned cult.

The arms on the yam—yeah, right—he’s so RIPPED!

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:05:46am

Adam Weinstein, a senior editor at the site, who had been serving as de facto editor-in-chief, said he quit after Iscol demanded a headline change over a story about the Veterans Affairs administration. Task & Purpose bills itself as a “news site for veterans, by veterans.” Weinstein said Iscol’s demand was part of a pattern of editorial interference from management.The piece, a lengthy ProPublica investigation reporting on how the sprawling VA bureaucracy had secretly come under the control of a cabal of non-military Mar-A-Lago members, apparently rubbed Iscol the wrong way.

“The publisher did not want us to publish the ProPublica piece until he’d reread it and approved the headline,” said one insider who spoke with TheWrap. “He made his views on the story’s content clear — he thought it was premised on bulls- and without merit.”

A second insider told TheWrap of widespread editorial turmoil and said it was not the first time Weinstein had clashed with management.

As a bonus…

Fox News Correspondent Conor Powell Resigns: ‘Lots of Reporters Are Very Unhappy’

Fox News foreign correspondent Conor Powell has left the company after nine years with the network. The Jerusalem-based journalist announced the news in a brief statement on Facebook on Friday and said he would return back to the United States.

“After nearly 9 years, I have decided to resign from Fox News. Those of you who have spoken to me in recent months, you will understand why I am leaving FNC,” he said. “To my many friends at the channel I wish you the best of luck.”

It’s not the first time Fox News has faced personnel issues in its Jerusalem bureau. In October 2017, the network also parted ways with John Huddy after his sister, Juliet, spoke out against the network’s former star Bill O’Reilly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:07:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:08:24am

re: #514 The Vicious Babushka

The U.S. detained a Mexican woman at Houston airport, revoked her visa and banned her from entering the country for five years because she had legally used Medicaid in 2016 after she gave birth in Maryland while legally visiting her mother, a citizen.

The message is loud and clear: do not come here if you are a dark-skinned foreigner.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:09:02am

re: #360 goddamnedfrank

They knew. They were fine with it until everyone else knew.

This is today’s equivalent of Watergate’s ‘what did he know and when did he know it’.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:10:47am
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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:11:12am

re: #515 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The message is loud and clear: do not come here if you are a dark-skinned foreigner.

‘…especially if you’re pregnant. We can’t have you here making Democrats’.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:13:49am

Rudy (and by extension that NY FBI office) sure do come to mind.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:13:50am

Seriously, WTF is up with this judge?

12:31 p.m.: Judge again spars with prosecutors

After a lengthy break, Judge T.S. Ellis III again sparred with prosecutors over the pace of the trial and evidence they want to admit. The heated argument has been a common occurrence in the trial.

The latest dispute centered on charts prosecutors want to show jurors demonstrating the flow of money …

Defense attorneys argued the charts were cumulative, essentially repeating evidence about which other witnesses already had testified.

That argument appealed to Ellis, who has repeatedly pushed prosecutors to increase the speed with which they are presenting their case. Ellis noted the defense was not contesting Manafort made the purchases with foreign accounts and questioned whether an elaborate presentation with an FBI accountant testifying about the charts was necessary.

In arguing he should be allowed to use the charts, prosecutor Greg Andres said the FBI accountant had done a great deal of work to put them to together.

“Look, it isn’t relevant that she spent her life doing it,” Ellis remarked, drawing laughter from those in the court.

“We need to find a way to focus sharply,” the judge said.

The exchange grew somewhat more heated.

“We’ve been focused sharply for a long time,” Andres said. He noted the government had to tie specific receipts to specific payments, and that defense attorneys had not agreed to any formal stipulations on that topic.

Defense attorney Richard Westling said defense attorneys would stipulate to one of the prosecution’s charts, which offered a high-level summary of Manafort’s purchases and the flow of money. Andres said he was “at a loss,” noting the defense had not agreed to do so before Wednesday and that it would be faster to merely question the accountant as planned, rather than write a formal stipulation.

Ellis ultimately agreed to let Andres question Magionos, though he warned he would be on a short leash and he would consider objections from the defense at his bench as the testimony proceeded.

“Judges should be patient. They made a mistake when they confirmed me,” Ellis quipped.

As jurors were about to be led into the courtroom, Ellis then remarked that he would not let the FBI’s accountant read certain emails from Paul Manafort that prosecutors want jurors to hear. Andres said he hoped to address that issue later in the afternoon. With jurors walking into the courtroom, Ellis thundered that he had read the prosecutors’ brief and seemed to imply he considered the matter decided. He said one previous court decision they were relying on contained only a “a throwaway line” to support their argument.

Andres fell silent as the jurors took their seats and Magionos was called to the stand.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:14:59am

Climate Researchers Warn Only Hope For Humanity Now Lies In Possibility They Making All Of This Up

theonion.com

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:16:03am

re: #517 JordanRules

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Pence…good God botherer…and as corrupt as Trump.

And how do we know?

An actual man of God would never ever associate with Trump. And if he was unaware of how nasty Trump is, he should have walked at the first indication of illegalities.

Instead Pence stands behind Trump’s left soldier at all times.

He needs to be in Mueller’s investigation too, and I bet he is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:16:43am

re: #514 The Vicious Babushka

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Man my SiL better get naturalized quick. These fucking bastards.

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SteelPH  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:17:00am

re: #522 ObserverArt

Instead Trump stands behind Trump’s left soldier at all times.

Miiiight wanna fix that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:17:01am

re: #519 JordanRules

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Rudy (and by extension that NY FBI office) sure do come to mind.

Just about any powerful man now over 50 has baggage that will destroy him if women continue to be treated as full citizens with equal-rights. I can see why these people are trying to drag us back to the bad old days.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:17:15am

re: #517 JordanRules

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I bet Putin has some serious dirt on the Evangelicals like Graham. I bet Graham has some nasty hobbies that he would not want publicized.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:18:57am

re: #360 goddamnedfrank

They knew. They were fine with it until everyone else knew.

its the nature of bad acts

‘they’ always know
‘they’ are always fine until/unless they get caught

cf: manafort

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:19:14am

re: #524 SteelPH

Miiiight wanna fix that.

Just did…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:20:35am

re: #437 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember, this is a party that cannot pass legislation even with a majority in Congress

That is because they only want to do terrible things, like take healthcare coverage away from tens of millions of people.

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:22:26am

re: #466 MsJ

None of them have said they renounce republican “values”. What I said is this is temporary. And it is.

I have to say, Jennifer Rubin has surprised me the most. She has not only gone after Trump, but also after the Republican congress and their crap more than the others. Not saying that if Romney rises again she won’t go back to being a fangirl, but she has been the most consistent in calling them all out. A few of her recent columns:

Republicans who don’t understand their oaths should be kicked out
Republicans make Trump’s racist and incendiary language possible

That said, when never-Trumpers are in the room, I still sleep with one eye open.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:22:52am

re: #431 Dr. Matt

2016 proved that it’s NEVER EVER apropos to cast a protest ballot. Sadly, most of the America has short attention spans and 10 years from now will completely forgot about the Donnie shit show just like they have all but forgotten the dubyah shit show.

Until we incorporate proportional representation into legislative elections, a vote for a third party is a vote for Republicans.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:23:51am

re: #522 ObserverArt

Pence…good God botherer…and as corrupt as Trump.

And how do we know?

An actual man of God would never ever associate with Trump. And if he was unaware of how nasty Trump is, he should have walked at the first indication of illegalities.

Instead Pence stands behind Trump’s left soldier at all times.

He needs to be in Mueller’s investigation too, and I bet he is.

+50

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:24:01am

re: #529 Big Beautiful Door

That is because they only want to do terrible things, like take healthcare coverage away from tens of millions of people.

but they managed to create crippling deficits by rewarding 1%-ers who then do not create jobs

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:25:41am

re: #530 BeachDem

I have to say, Jennifer Rubin has surprised me the most. She has not only gone after Trump, but also after the Republican congress and their crap more than the others. Not saying that if Romney rises again she won’t go back to being a fangirl, but she has been the most consistent in calling them all out. A few of her recent columns:

Republicans who don’t understand their oaths should be kicked out
Republicans make Trump’s racist and incendiary language possible

That said, when never-Trumpers are in the room, I still sleep with one eye open.

Agreed. The ones I trust (maybe not the best word) but the ones I give the most street cred go after the entire party and not just the orange asshole himself.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:26:02am

re: #443 Dr. Matt

Where is the faux outrage from those fiscally responsible teabaggers et al.?

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We must remember this when Republicans say we can’t afford Medicare-for-all or anything for anybody in the bottom half of income, because they can always afford another tax cut for rich people.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:26:25am
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:26:28am

re: #531 Big Beautiful Door

Until we incorporate proportional representation into legislative elections, a vote for a third party is a vote for Republicans.

i did leave out the rest of the original quote from electoral-vote.com:

Of course, it would be possible to fix the system so people could protest and also not throw the election to their least-preferred candidate, namely by adopting IRV (Instant Runoff Voting) everywhere, so voters could mark their first, second, and third choices.

just a way
not the only way

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Jenner7  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:28:15am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:30:35am

I agree not to trust the never Trumpers…but it sure is fun watching them tear their party a new one. I think Steve Schmidt is the best at getting to the point. He was on Nicole Wallace’s Deadline Washington yesterday and had this to say about Pitiful Paul Ryan.

(Yes, I used a Deplorable Donny Trump style nicknames…)

Iframe

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:30:42am

BEEVILLE

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:30:52am

re: #536 JordanRules

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I’m tired of Sanders deciding who is a progressive and who ain’t.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:32:36am

re: #532 dangerman

+50

Damn, I gotta stop working and reading other stuff and jumping in too quick on my comments.

Should be “left shoulder” Eeek!

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:32:53am

Now this is what I call one hell of a ratio!

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:33:49am

re: #542 ObserverArt

Damn, I gotta stop working and reading other stuff and jumping in too quick on my comments.

Should be “left shoulder” Eeek!

i read quickly so i didnt even see it
i knew what you meant right away

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:34:12am

re: #543 MsJ

Now this is what I call one hell of a ratio!

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This displays better in a picture than the actual tweet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:34:14am

re: #543 MsJ

Under @realDonaldTrump, the @DeptVetAffairs - with its $200 billion budget, nearly 400,000 employees and 9 million veteran patients - is being run by a trio of Mar-a-Lago Trump buddies without a day of military (or gov’t) experience among them.

This is seen as an example of draining the swamp by bringing in successful businessmen an washington outsiders.

no point in arguing

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Jay C  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:34:46am

re: #431 Dr. Matt
Minor edit:

2016 2000 proved that it’s NEVER EVER apropos to cast a protest ballot. Sadly, most of America has short attention spans and 10 or 15 years from now will have completely forgot about the Donnie shit show just like they have all but forgotten the dubyah shit show.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:34:53am

re: #543 MsJ

Now this is what I call one hell of a ratio!

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That’s the sort of thing that happens in a country losing its democratic institutions.

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SteelPH  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:38:13am

re: #541 HappyWarrior

I’m tired of Sanders deciding who is a progressive and who ain’t.

Sanders isn’t a progressive, he’s an opportunist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:40:16am

re: #536 JordanRules

I got a shit ton of junk mail from Shri Thenadar, not touting his qualification or accomplishments, but attacking Gretchen Whittmer because she doesn’t support “Medicare For All” but making it sound like she was “in the pocket of Big Insurance”

I received phone calls (I didn’t pick up tho’) and door to door visits from Whittmer campaign volunteers.

Abdul El Sayed did not send literature, make phone calls or knock on doors. I didn’t even know he was a candidate until I saw his name on the ballot.

I voted for Whittmer.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:40:59am

re: #547 Jay C

Minor edit:

Good point. I rarely ever divulge the following information, but I moved to Houston during the summer of the 2000 campaign. I registered to vote in time, but actually sat home knowing that casting a Democratic vote in a deep red state like Texas was futile. I was younger and more naive; since then have I voted in every city, county, state, and federal election in any given year. I’m hoping for atonement.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:41:09am

re: #431 Dr. Matt

2016 proved that it’s NEVER EVER apropos to cast a protest ballot. Sadly, most of America has short attention spans and 10 years from now will have completely forgot about the Donnie shit show just like they have all but forgotten the dubyah shit show.

2000 showed ratfuckers what a great idea it is to encourage people to cast protest ballots. they will not let up as long as there are idealistic idiots who think we live in a parialmentary system.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:41:30am

re: #549 SteelPH

Sanders isn’t a progressive, he’s an opportunist.

Agreed.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:42:49am

re: #549 SteelPH

Sanders isn’t a progressive, he’s an opportunist.

Who very well may have been helped by Vlad and Gang too.

Hmmm. How about another Trump-style nickname?

Dirty Bernie Sanders.

Show us your taxes!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:43:10am

re: #550 The Vicious Babushka

I got a shit ton of junk mail from Shri Thenadar, not touting his qualification or accomplishments, but attacking Gretchen Whittmer because she doesn’t support “Medicare For All” but making it sound like she was “in the pocket of Big Insurance”

I received phone calls (I didn’t pick up tho’) and door to door visits from Whittmer campaign volunteers.

Abdul El Sayed did not send literature, make phone calls or knock on doors. I didn’t even know he was a candidate until I saw his name on the ballot.

I voted for Whittmer.

From what I know, I would have voted for Gretchen too. I like doers not talkers.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:44:28am

re: #554 ObserverArt

Who very well may have been helped by Vlad and Gang too.

Hmmm. How about another Trump-style nickname?

Dirty Bernie Sanders.

Show us your taxes!

Sanders lack of transparency does trouble me even if I didn’t share your opinion about him being a knowing beneficiary of Putin’s help.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:45:07am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:47:00am

re: #552 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

2000 showed ratfuckers what a great idea it is to encourage people to cast protest ballots. they will not let up as long as there are idealistic idiots who think we live in a parialmentary system.

Totally forgot about Ralph Fucking Nader….looks like I’m a typical short-remembering American as well. :\

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:48:10am

This is America
Don’t catch you slippin’ up
Don’t catch you slippin’ up

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:48:22am

re: #558 Dr. Matt

Totally forgot about Ralph Fucking Nader….looks like I’m a typical short-remembering American as well. :\

no, you just had the natural reaction of repressing a trauma

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:48:52am

Hmmmmmm

“If you get in early, you’ll make a big profit,” Collins reportedly told House Republicans last summer.

At least six Republicans appear to have been convinced by Collins’ pitch (though at various times they claimed to have arrived at the stock purchase through media reports).

They were:

1. Tom Price
2. Rep. John Culberson (R-TX)
3. Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX)
4. Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)
5. Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)
6. Rep. Billy Long (R-MO)
rawstory.com

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:50:01am

re: #561 BeachDem

Hmmmmmm

“If you get in early, you’ll make a big profit,” Collins reportedly told House Republicans last summer.

At least six Republicans appear to have been convinced by Collins’ pitch (though at various times they claimed to have arrived at the stock purchase through media reports).

They were:

1. Tom Price
2. Rep. John Culberson (R-TX)
3. Rep. Mike Conaway (R-TX)
4. Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO)
5. Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)
6. Rep. Billy Long (R-MO)
rawstory.com

Six you say? Hmm…

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:51:05am

re: #537 dangerman

We have “ranked choice” voting in the Minneapolis and St. Paul for local elections. I wasn’t a big fan of it at first because there was rarely more than one candidate that I liked. I became a fan of it during our last mayoral election because there were three really acceptable candidates and a lot of candidates that needed to lose. My second choice was the winner, and I was really happy to have been able to make him my alternate choice while voting.

Ranked Voting - The Reallocation Process

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:51:26am

re: #514 The Vicious Babushka

This just about did me in for the week.

JFC

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:52:42am

re: #560 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no, you just had the natural reaction of repressing a trauma

The upside from 2000 is that I went from apolitical indifferent citizen to an activist who fights daily for the Democratic Party and for common sense candidates (today, they are typically one of the same).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:55:10am

Llre: #565 Dr. Matt

The upside from 2000 is that I went from apolitical indifferent citizen to an activist who fights daily for the Democratic Party and for common sense candidates (today, they are typically one of the same).

I probably never would have gotten as politically interested as I did had Gore became President in 2001 and met the friends here and elsewhere I have.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:55:46am
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:56:29am

re: #556 HappyWarrior

Sanders lack of transparency does trouble me even if I didn’t share your opinion about him being a knowing beneficiary of Putin’s help.

Well Happy…I did use “may have” because all I know are the suspicions.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:58:02am

re: #568 ObserverArt

Well Happy…I did use “may have” because all I know are the suspicions.

No, we’re agreeing. Sanders is not transparent. That’s troubling as hell for someone who is as zealous as he is.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:58:38am

re: #557 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:58:49am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:58:50am

re: #567 Dr. Matt

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But it’s not in the cradle. Yes, I know that’s Harry Chaplin not Cat/Yusuf.

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2018 • 10:59:30am

re: #572 HappyWarrior

But it’s not in the cradle. Yes, I know that’s Harry Chapin not Cat/Yusuf.

FTFY

Speaking of Chapin, we could definitely use more “progressives” in high places like he was.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:00:09am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:04:43am

re: #574 The Vicious Babushka

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Ben Shapiro is useless and about as enlightening as s bucket of piss.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:05:01am

re: #573 TedStriker

FTFY

Speaking of Chapin, we could definitely use more “progressives” in high places like he was.

Ah thank you.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:06:37am

re: #558 Dr. Matt

Totally forgot about Ralph Fucking Nader….looks like I’m a typical short-remembering American as well. :\

I voted in Palm Beach county that year
Butterfly ballots, hanging chads etc

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:07:37am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:10:42am

LOL, the moron is fucking clueless…

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:11:29am

re: #578 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:11:35am

re: #579 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, the moron is fucking clueless…

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The your favorite president shit is so cultish.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:13:20am

nanananana Leader

Dunno but this is what I think of whan Trump refers to himself as your favorite President on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:14:10am

He is going to flip his shit when he wakes up after election day and sees that his party is the minority and all sorts of investigations will begin.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:14:14am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

The your favorite president shit is so cultish.

“L” is not the consonant I would have gone for

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:16:09am

re: #584 dangerman

“L” is not the consonant I would have gone for

Ah ha! But seriously. The way he slobbers over himself is disgusting.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:18:29am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:21:58am

re: #586 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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To paraphrase Office Space, I just don’t know what it is he exactly does.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:22:42am

re: #587 HappyWarrior

To paraphrase Office Space, I just don’t know what it is he exactly does.

He builds his brand.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:04:08pm

re: #567 Dr. Matt

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And to celebrate, my Chica has made it HOME.

(Hiding under the couch tho)

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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:57:38pm

re: #258 ObserverArt

Morning.

Saw this…I fought with myself all day yesterday on whether I did the right thing. Still fighting.

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Sorry for caring Charlie.

Where are his parents? Sister? They were monitoring his social media during the last big downturn he had.


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Georgia’s Kemp Likely Made Up Dems Hacking Claim, Report Finds So let's say we somehow kick the Russians, Chinese, whoever right out of all our electoral computers. Then the enemy is still us. Now, an investigation by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is officially calling bullshit on those claims. Per the ...
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Day After Neo-Nazi Is Convicted of Murder, Associates of a Violent Skinhead Group Charged With Hate Crimes Travis David Condor, a member of the band Birthrite and head of hate-music record label American Defense Records, was among nine people arrested at a bar in Lynwood, Washington, early Saturday morning. The Snohomish County Sheriff's Office said in ...
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The Outer Worlds - Official Announcement Trailer Watch the official announcement trailer for The Outer Worlds, a new single-player first-person sci-fi RPG from Obsidian Entertainment and Private Division. In The Outer Worlds, you awake from hibernation on a colonist ship that was lost in transit to ...
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Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Suspect My Tears The new deluxe album ‘Look Now’ out now, order here: elviscostello.lnk.to Explore more music from Elvis Costello: lnk.to Follow Elvis Costello:Facebook: facebook.comInstagram: instagram.comTwitter: twitter.comWebsite: elviscostello.com Director & Original Story - MustashrikExecutive Production - Whitney JacksonProduced by Partizan VFX Supervisor ...
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VULFPECK /// Half of the Way (Feat. Theo Katzman) VULFPECK /// Half of the Waybuy on bandcamp → vuuulf.com Theo Katzman — vocalsLarry Goldings — piano, composerRyan Lerman — guitar, composer, engineerJoey Dosik — saxWoody Goss — tambourineJack Stratton — drums, mixingJoe Dart — fender bassCory Wong — ...
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