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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:23:12am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:24:41am

We have a new winner for the definition of White Privilege :

Taken to the police station in handcuffs, she described herself as a white “thoroughbred” and “went on to say ‘I’m a white, clean girl,’” the officer wrote in his report.

“I asked what that had to do with anything?” wrote the officer, who also is white.

She replied, “You’re a cop, you should know what that means,” and, “You’re a cop, you should know based on the people that come in this room.”

Also, “she repeatedly stated, ‘my partner is a cop,’” and said she’d been trying to get to her boyfriend’s house when she was pulled over early Saturday.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:27:36am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But Trump can be objective because he’s white. Really fuck Trump and his apologists. The man’s a racist asshole. Anyone who denies that has their head in the sand.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:30:45am
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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:31:08am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:32:59am

re: #5 Kragar

This is why Collins thought he’d get away with it. Electing Trump meant it was open season.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:34:52am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Someone figured out that there was more money to be made grifting rubes.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:35:04am
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ipsos  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:35:32am

re: #5 Kragar

Happy Infrastructure Friday!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:36:44am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I think a lot of people on the Right like to see themselves as hardheaded realists. And a lot of them thought that’s what the Right was about. Turns out…not so much.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:37:12am

Bitcoin Donations to Alt-Right Surge Ahead of Charlottesville Anniversary

Bitcoin donations to white supremacists are up during a series of far-right rallies leading up to the one-year anniversary of the deadly Charlottesville rally.

The cryptocurrency is beloved by the racist right for its bank-free, mostly anonymous nature. With online payment platforms like PayPal refusing to serve white supremacists, cryptocurrency allows racists to collect money from anonymous donors in digital bitcoin wallets, the contents of which are available for anyone to see. The Twitter account Neonazi BTC Tracker monitors a group of white supremacists’ wallets, and tweets when they receive a new payment. And new analysis from Forbes suggests prominent racists are cashing in on a spike of white supremacist activity this month.

Hopefully they spend it on Heroin, and we never hear from them again.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:37:59am

This is NOT the behavior of an innocent person. Hard Stop.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:38:28am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:40:27am

Why, I can just hear Johnny Cochrane…

If he can’t keep it zipped,
You must acquit!

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:40:42am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:41:34am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Is he a terrorist, or white?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:43:24am

So, last night I said that if O’Connor won, Trump would talk about how bad Balderson was as a candidate, and the GOP would shit its collective pants. If Balderson won, Trump would take a victory lap, and the GOP would STILL shit its collective pants.

I’d take a bow, but predicting the bleeding obvious is not much of an accomplishment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:43:56am

re: #16 Big Beautiful Door

Is he a terrorist, or white?

Lone Wolf, nobody could have predicted, we may never know the motive.

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:44:00am

re: #5 Kragar

Trump’s life slogan is, “Fuck Optics!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:44:25am

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

So, last night I said that if O’Connor won, Trump would talk about how bad Balderson was as a candidate, and the GOP would shit its collective pants. If Balderson won, Trump would take a victory lap, and the GOP would STILL shit its collective pants.

I’d take a bow, but predicting the bleeding obvious is not much of an accomplishment.

Trump basically did both, saying Balderson was losing bigly until Trump came to town and saved him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:45:38am

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

Lone Wolf, nobody could have predicted, we may never know the motive.

He might be a white nationalist, or a militia member, or mentally unbalanced, but if he’s white, you won’t hear the T word used.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:47:02am

re: #20 Big Beautiful Door

Trump basically did both, saying Balderson was losing bigly until Trump came to town and saved him.

Last night, one of the guys who does elections (Cohn, Wasserman, Enten - can’t remember who) said Trump will take credit, but since the rural counties all had really bad turnout, what saved Balderson’s bacon was suburban Delaware County, which means that it was more likely that Kasich saved the day.

But, you know, Trump will be Trump.

Until we stop him.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:47:40am

re: #21 Big Beautiful Door

He might be a white nationalist, or a militia member, or mentally unbalanced, but if he’s white, you won’t hear the T word used.

Not white, but when there’s a ‘compound’ involved, sounds like he might be white-influenced.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:50:17am

re: #19 plansbandc

Trump’s life slogan is, “Fuck Optics!”

I have the best vision

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:50:28am

I was rude on the internet today

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:51:20am

re: #2 Dr. Matt

I can believe that she’s a cop’s girlfriend.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:52:07am

The POS off-duty police scumbag who tazed a freaking 11 year old girl he harassed should undergo things that if described would probably get me banned…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:52:30am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

This is NOT the behavior of an innocent person. Hard Stop.

DJT so tough, so very tough and SMART.
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:53:53am

re: #25 gocart mozart

I was rude on the internet today

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No, Chris, it’s that John Lewis has seen this shit before and he knows that your boss is the heir of the assholes on the streets of Selma that threw bricks at him.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:55:00am

This was the Tweet that started it all and my response

Self awareness has a liberal bias

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:57:27am

re: #30 gocart mozart

This was the Tweet that started it all and my response

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Self awareness has a liberal bias

I really hate smug assholes who think they’re above partisan politics who have some of the biggest agendas out there. That tool is one of them.

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:57:37am

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

Last night, one of the guys who does elections (Cohn, Wasserman, Enten - can’t remember who) said Trump will take credit, but since the rural counties all had really bad turnout, what saved Balderson’s bacon was suburban Delaware County, which means that it was more likely that Kasich saved the day.

But, you know, Trump will be Trump.

Until we stop him.

Trump will be even more Trump after we stop him. He’ll never shut up.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:58:33am
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 11:59:04am

From the Manfort trial yesterday:

When Mr. Gates asserted that Mr. Manafort “was very good at knowing where the money was and where it was going,” Judge Ellis pointed out that Mr. Manafort “didn’t know about the money you were stealing, so he didn’t do it that closely.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:00:33pm

re: #32 stpaulbear

Trump will be even more Trump after we stop him. He’ll never shut up.

Fortunately he’s 71 or 72 now. The MAGA cult sure will be fun when Dotard is 85 and can’t walk, but his fans will still listen to and faithfully obey every bleating.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:00:51pm

Heh, I hurt his feelings

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:01:11pm

re: #34 Belafon

From the Manfort trial yesterday:

The judge has been playing the part of defense attorney throughout.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:01:43pm

re: #27 Archangelus

The POS off-duty police scumbag who tazed a freaking 11 year old girl he harassed should undergo things that if described would probably get me banned…

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You do sometimes have to use some force to control children, like holding their wrists when they’re throwing a tantrum in a store. It’s the potentially-lethal force that’s the problem. The cop should go to jail for that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:02:32pm

re: #32 stpaulbear

Trump will be even more Trump after we stop him. He’ll never shut up.

Well, then, reporters can go interview him in prison. Maybe he’ll take over the prison, like Wilson Fisk in ‘Daredevil’, but I figure he’s more likely to be made into someone’s bitch than to make others into his.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:02:36pm

re: #35 Sir John Barron

Fortunately he’s 71 or 72 now. The MAGA cult sure will be fun when Dotard is 85 and can’t walk, but his fans will still listen to and faithfully obey every bleating.

I’d be honestly shocked if he makes it to 85.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:02:41pm

Heh, his Twitter bio

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:02:44pm

re: #35 Sir John Barron

Fortunately he’s 71 or 72 now. The MAGA cult sure will be fun when Dotard is 85 and can’t walk, but his fans will still listen to and faithfully obey every bleating.

More like 75 when he can’t walk, but they’ll still put his head on muscular bodies in wingnut “art”.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:03:08pm

Too much? Really hate smug jackasses like that…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:03:33pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

Heh, his Twitter bio

Translation: I love pissing off all the snowflake libtards but I’ll cry if you challenge me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:03:40pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, then, reporters can go interview him in prison. Maybe he’ll take over the prison, like Wilson Fisk in ‘Daredevil’, but I figure he’s more likely to be made into someone’s bitch than to make others into his.

I think the skinheads would initially embrace him, then kill him when they got tired of his antics.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:03:48pm

re: #16 Big Beautiful Door

Is he a terrorist, or white?

IIRC, African American. I suspect of the unhinged sovereign citizen type.

Hard call for a wingnut to make.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:04:35pm
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:04:47pm
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Bubblehead II  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:05:31pm

re: #34 Belafon

From the Manfort trial yesterday:

Why am I getting the vibe that this “judge” is somehow in tRumps pocket?

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:06:02pm

re: #19 plansbandc

Trump’s life slogan is, “Fuck Optics!”

What would that be in latin?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:06:35pm

re: #23 wrenchwench

Not white, but when there’s a ‘compound’ involved, sounds like he might be white-influenced.

The Right is going to be all over this.

The documents filed Wednesday say Siraj Ibn Wahhaj (see-DAHJ’ IBN wah-HAJ’) was conducting weapons training at the compound near the Colorado border where 11 hungry children were found in filthy conditions.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:07:30pm

1. How was I supposed to know she is a woman.
2. So what

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:08:44pm

re: #51 Big Beautiful Door

The Right is going to be all over this.

Was this a good guy with a gun or not a good guy with a gun?

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plansbandc  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:09:06pm

re: #50 Teukka

Irrumabo Optica!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:09:19pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

You don’t think what you friend said (2nd post you commented) to a female was not rude and vile? You should be respectful to women not tell them to shove something up there A** #bekind

— A.Varricchio

Hi, you must be new here.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:09:31pm

re: #46 BlueSpotinAL

IIRC, African American. I suspect of the unhinged sovereign citizen type.

Hard call for a wingnut to make.

Not once they see his name.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:10:50pm

re: #56 Big Beautiful Door

Not once they see his name.

ISIS, or Obama’s Shadow Government, or MS-13.

/

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:10:50pm
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:11:25pm

About the Collins arrest. He was instrumental in getting Tom Price appointed to HHS, who would be in a position to approve the immuno therapies from the company Collins was trading inside information: dailykos.com.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:11:31pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:12:02pm

re: #52 gocart mozart

1. How was I supposed to know she is a woman.
2. So what

Does this guy know who is President?

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SteelPH  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:12:06pm

re: #58 Kragar

Monsters, all of them.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:12:37pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I’d be honestly shocked if he makes it to 85.

I’ll be shocked if he makes it to 75 the way things are going. He was in piss-poor health before entering the oval office no matter what BS his “doctors” were peddling, and that was before the unending constant rage and sense of being trapped that so many have reported he feels on a fairly regular basis.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:12:40pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:12:41pm

I got very CL’d because I was doing my duty for International Cat Day

My Chica has made it HOME.

(Hiding under the couch tho)

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:12:44pm

re: #27 Archangelus

The POS off-duty police scumbag who tazed a freaking 11 year old girl he harassed should undergo things that if described would probably get me banned…

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c’mon. she’s black
11 years old is practically a full grown thug

how many ‘/s’ do i need to use here?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:13:47pm

For the record, I am totally willing to first support Qanon, then withdraw support for Qanon, in return for a slice of $160mil.

Call me, shadowy cabal.

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Archangelus  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:13:49pm

re: #66 dangerman

c’mon. she’s black
11 years old is practically a full grown thug

how many ‘/s’ do i need to use here?

I reckon 22 should be sufficient…

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:15:59pm

re: #34 Belafon

From the Manfort trial yesterday:

When Mr. Gates asserted that Mr. Manafort “was very good at knowing where the money was and where it was going,” Judge Ellis pointed out that Mr. Manafort “didn’t know about the money you were stealing, so he didn’t do it that closely.”

actually judge, you dont know that at all.
manafort may very well have known gates was ‘stealing’ from him

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:17:50pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:18:36pm

re: #30 gocart mozart

I have now had a cup of coffee and I still can’t see how that dingbat’s response is coherent or at all responsive to the original tweet. Maybe more coffee will make it more clear.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:18:45pm

re: #47 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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these days (esp on int’l cat day) it’s hard to tell real cat pix from make america kittens again (maka app)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:19:32pm

I read this thread and I am embarrassed for my country, and pissed off at those who made it this way.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:20:11pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

Ewwww, ewwww, ewwwww. Prisoner’s have standards, too.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:20:20pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I read this thread and I am embarrassed for my country, and pissed off at those who made it this way.

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The fucked up part is that he’s also an Ahmadi, whom are relentlessly persecuted in Jim Crow-like laws in his native Pakistan.

And then he gets treated like an outsider in the “land of the free”.

It’s utter bullshit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:20:22pm

re: #70 Kragar

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:21:30pm

re: #56 Big Beautiful Door

Not once they see his name.

You’re right.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:24:47pm

re: #56 Big Beautiful Door

Not once they see his name.

He’s Muslim. A cursory search on the Internet reveals his dad is the leader of a national Muslim association - and he’s been trying to find his grandson (the missing kid that prompted all this; Apparently Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, the man under arrest, was of the belief that his son - the missing child in question - was “possessed by the devil”….in reality, that poor kid is suffering from a variety of medical conditions).

Very weird and very sad.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:25:06pm

Beyond bizarre:
The Shadow Rulers of the VA
How Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter and two other Mar-a-Lago cronies are secretly shaping the Trump administration’s veterans policies.

Last February, shortly after Peter O’Rourke became chief of staff for the Department of Veterans Affairs, he received an email from Bruce Moskowitz with his input on a new mental health initiative for the VA. “Received,” O’Rourke replied. “I will begin a project plan and develop a timeline for action.”

O’Rourke treated the email as an order, but Moskowitz is not his boss. In fact, he is not even a government official. Moskowitz is a Palm Beach doctor who helps wealthy people obtain high-service “concierge” medical care.

More to the point, he is one-third of an informal council that is exerting sweeping influence on the VA from Mar-a-Lago, President Donald Trump’s private club in Palm Beach, Florida. The troika is led by Ike Perlmutter, the reclusive chairman of Marvel Entertainment, who is a longtime acquaintance of President Trump’s. The third member is a lawyer named Marc Sherman. None of them has ever served in the U.S. military or government.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:26:08pm

re: #76 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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He really thinks he’s going to gain seats. That’s fucking hilarious. Red wave? No Donald, there wouldn’t even be a red splash. You’re going down asshole.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:26:43pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You know, I have nothing against Marvel Entertainment.

But they should stick to comic books, films, and merchandising.

Not running the VA.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:27:31pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

He really thinks he’s going to gain seats. That’s fucking hilarious. Red wave? No Donald, there wouldn’t even be a red splash. You’re going down asshole.

He probably has people telling him that to calm him down as his Presidency becomes an undeniable-even-to-Republicans failure.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:28:00pm

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

You know, I have nothing against Marvel Entertainment.

But they should stick to comic books, films, and merchandising.

Not running the VA.

Not even The Inhumans or Iron Fist?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:28:34pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Beyond bizarre:
The Shadow Rulers of the VA
How Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter and two other Mar-a-Lago cronies are secretly shaping the Trump administration’s veterans policies.

God if I were O’Rourke, I’d raise holy hell about this shit.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:28:36pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I read this thread and I am embarrassed for my country, and pissed off at those who made it this way.

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it is not illegal to mock, embarass, or ask for answers from law enforcement

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:28:47pm
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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:29:09pm

And in the “there’s nothing he won’t lie about” category:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:29:42pm

Sorry Donald but red waves don’t happen when your party barely wins a seat it’s held for decades when you had a 5:1 spending advantage.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:29:55pm

re: #65 Stanley Sea

I got very CL’d because I was doing my duty for International Cat Day

My Chica has made it HOME.

(Hiding under the couch tho)

Kitty dinner gonna be something special I bet

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:30:12pm

Okay, a quick Dory Story….

I wake up this morning, and as usual Mrs. FBW and the dogs are already out in the living room. I come in, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

A little later, the coffee having worked its magic, I head to the bathroom. After maybe 5-10 minutes, I come back, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

A little later, and it’s time for a return trip. After maybe 5-10 minutes, I come back, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

I go and take my shower and get ready to leave. I come back to the living room, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

Each greeting was the same level of frantic enthusiasm. This puppy friggin’ LOVES me!! Take that, Mr. “I lifted my head off the bed, what more do you want?” Greyhound!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:30:14pm

re: #87 BeachDem

And in the “there’s nothing he won’t lie about” category:

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Is there nothing he won’t lie about? Moron.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:30:33pm
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:31:06pm

re: #79 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Beyond bizarre:
The Shadow Rulers of the VA
How Marvel Entertainment chairman Ike Perlmutter and two other Mar-a-Lago cronies are secretly shaping the Trump administration’s veterans policies.

i’ve read this a number of times today

the crux of the problem is with the people inside the VA

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:31:15pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Gah.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:31:33pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Is there nothing he won’t lie about? Moron.

No, he’ll lie about literally anything.

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Jebediah, RBG  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:32:29pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

Awesome!
Not much is better than a happy, affectionate puppy.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:32:33pm

re: #61 Sir John Barron

Does this guy know who is President?

She thinks I am just as vile as Trump. She’s a ‘both siderest’, “They all suck” kind of person.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:34:16pm

re: #96 Jebediah, RBG

Awesome!
Not much is better than a happy, affectionate puppy.

When she started doing this, I was afraid she’d pee on the floor in submission, but she doesn’t! Plus, this morning when she was playing, she stopped, trotted over to the pee pad by the door and peed, just as if we’d actually trained her or something!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:34:16pm

This is why I’m hoping Kobach wins the GOP nomination for governor. Colyer wins the general by double digits; Kobach is so unpopular he makes the race a toss-up.

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electrotek  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:34:24pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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What right wing extremism yall?

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:34:50pm

re: #93 dangerman

i’ve read this a number of times today

the crux of the problem is with the people inside the VA

Well, they’ve done what they can to get rid of anyone inside who disagrees with them:

…all the officials that the Leinenkugel memo singled out for removal are now gone, replaced with allies of Perlmutter, Sherman and Moskowitz. The memo suggested that Sandoval take charge of the Office of Information and Technology, overseeing the implementation of the Cerner contract; he got the job in April. The memo proposed removing Deputy Secretary Tom Bowman; he left in June, and the post hasn’t been filled. The memo floated Richard Stone for under secretary for health; he got the job on an acting basis in July. Leinenkugel himself took charge of a commission on mental health (the same topic Moskowitz had emailed O’Rourke about). O’Rourke, having hit it off with the Mar-a-Lago Crowd, became acting secretary in May.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:35:26pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Sorry Donald but red waves don’t happen when your party barely wins a seat it’s held for decades when you had a 5:1 spending advantage.

via politicawire.com:

“We won a district where we can nominate a bag of cement… and we won by 1,000 votes. That means… they are playing 50 seats deep in our infield and almost winning. What does that tell you about our midterms?”

— GOP strategist Mike Murphy, quoted by The Atlantic, on what last night’s Ohio special election says for the November midterms.

“bag of cement”
love it

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:35:29pm

I’m pretty sure socially-communicable narcissism is a thing now.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:36:46pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, a quick Dory Story….

I wake up this morning, and as usual Mrs. FBW and the dogs are already out in the living room. I come in, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

A little later, the coffee having worked its magic, I head to the bathroom. After maybe 5-10 minutes, I come back, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

A little later, and it’s time for a return trip. After maybe 5-10 minutes, I come back, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

I go and take my shower and get ready to leave. I come back to the living room, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day.

Each greeting was the same level of frantic enthusiasm. This puppy friggin’ LOVES me!! Take that, Mr. “I lifted my head off the bed, what more do you want?” Greyhound!

Does Rango prefer the Mrs., and Dory wants first claim on the leftovers?

We have two cats. I picked them at the Humane Society, the Manx first. The other one turned into Mr. w’s cat.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:37:50pm

re: #101 BeachDem

Well, they’ve done what they can to get rid of anyone inside who disagrees with them:

…all the officials that the Leinenkugel memo singled out for removal are now gone, replaced with allies of Perlmutter, Sherman and Moskowitz. The memo suggested that Sandoval take charge of the Office of Information and Technology, overseeing the implementation of the Cerner contract; he got the job in April. The memo proposed removing Deputy Secretary Tom Bowman; he left in June, and the post hasn’t been filled. The memo floated Richard Stone for under secretary for health; he got the job on an acting basis in July. Leinenkugel himself took charge of a commission on mental health (the same topic Moskowitz had emailed O’Rourke about). O’Rourke, having hit it off with the Mar-a-Lago Crowd, became acting secretary in May.

it’s effing bizarro world
and will be buried under the constant barrage of “did you hear the latest outrage!???!?!!”

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:37:53pm

re: #103 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He meant to say bowel, not political.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:38:08pm

re: #103 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I’m pretty sure socially-communicable narcissism is a thing now.

Did your movement end slavery? grant us our independence? defeat the Nazis? Then no you are not. In fact, your movement is up there with the people who fought to preserve slavery, against the labor movement, etc.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:38:35pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

Ooops, sorry. I called you ‘leftovers’.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:39:32pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Does Rango prefer the Mrs., and Dory wants first claim on the leftovers?

We have two cats. I picked them at the Humane Society, the Manx first. The other one turned into Mr. w’s cat.

All dogs prefer Mrs. FBW, though they all just as clearly recognize me as the Alpha. She feeds them, and gives them treats.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:39:59pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:40:47pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Ooops, sorry. I called you ‘leftovers’.

Hey, I’m used to it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:42:55pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Did your movement end slavery? grant us our independence? defeat the Nazis? Then no you are not. In fact, your movement is up there with the people who fought to preserve slavery, against the labor movement, etc.

Stole that entirely.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:43:57pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

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This was already asked the other day but Tomi, how can you claim it’s gone down hill if you’ve never been there? And BTW liberals have been running that city for a long time. And I’m sure you hometown isn’t much better which is why you got out of there to hide out on right wing safe spaces and spew useless shit stories like this one.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:44:00pm

re: #69 dangerman

actually judge, you dont know that at all.
manafort may very well have known gates was ‘stealing’ from him

Seeing that they’re both crooks it’s likely built into the job description. “As long as it’s not more than X.”

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:44:16pm

I had to out you guys

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:44:32pm

re: #112 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Stole that entirely.

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Please by all means.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:44:59pm

re: #115 gocart mozart

I had to out you guys

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Twitter Tump?

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:45:22pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

He really thinks he’s going to gain seats. That’s fucking hilarious. Red wave? No Donald, there wouldn’t even be a red splash. You’re going down asshole.

Depends on how much help he gets from his friends in the GRU.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:45:49pm

re: #115 gocart mozart

I had to out you guys

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What part of ‘Secret Subversive Organization’ did you not get?
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:46:37pm

re: #118 MsJ

Depends on how much help he gets from his friends in the GRU.

You just know he’s going to cry fraud if they so much has have a net loss of one seat.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:46:54pm

re: #113 HappyWarrior

This was already asked the other day but Tomi, how can you claim it’s gone down hill if you’ve never been there? And BTW liberals have been running that city for a long time. And I’m sure you hometown isn’t much better which is why you got out of there to hide out on right wing safe spaces and spew useless shit stories like this one.

Tammany was born in Rapid City, SD, pop. 74,000

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:47:23pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

He really thinks he’s going to gain seats. That’s fucking hilarious. Red wave? No Donald, there wouldn’t even be a red splash. You’re going down asshole.

My impression is that he starts out knowing just how bad this was for the GOP, and starts lying, calling it a big victory. As time passes, he believes the lie more and more, till eventually it becomes truth to him.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:51:27pm

How does it play in Peoria?

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:53:16pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:54:40pm

re: #120 HappyWarrior

You just know he’s going to cry fraud if they so much has have a net loss of one seat.

That’s exactly what he’ll do. He’s screaming “RED WAVE!!” now but should it turn out to be a blue wave, then he’ll start screaming about “BIGGEST VOTE FRAUD IN HISTORY!!”

He’s entirely predictable.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:54:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:55:01pm

re: #121 wheat-dogg

Tammany was born in Rapid City, SD, pop. 74,000

Which I’m sure has no drugs ever. //

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:55:39pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

That’s exactly what he’ll do. He’s screaming “RED WAVE!!” now but should it turn out to be a blue wave, then he’ll start screaming about “BIGGEST VOTE FRAUD IN HISTORY!!”

He’s entirely predictable.

Yep. That’s exactly what he will do and he’ll get the Red HAts believing that they lost their majority due to fraud. Because the asshole doesn’t know how to lose with dignity.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:55:40pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Which I’m sure has no drugs ever. //

Meth doesn’t count. That’s just rural people having fun.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:55:55pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

That’s exactly what he’ll do. He’s screaming “RED WAVE!!” now but should it turn out to be a blue wave, then he’ll start screaming about “BIGGEST VOTE FRAUD IN HISTORY!!”

He’s entirely predictable.

YOOOGE fraud!
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wheat-dogg  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:56:38pm

The UofL dildo-wielding grad is catching the predictable flak.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:56:50pm

re: #114 MsJ

Seeing that they’re both crooks it’s likely built into the job description. “As long as it’s not more than X.”

precisely

i dont believe manafort’s testified yet so how could the judge possible know this?
and even if, that manafort wouldnt be lying that he didnt know

it was really a boneheaded thing for a judge to say

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:58:18pm

You know, when I saw this happening the other day, all I thought was ‘suckers” as the stocks price climbed.
I wonder if Musk winds up in a stock manipulation investigation

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wheat-dogg  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:58:19pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Which I’m sure has no drugs ever. //

Also, I am quite Toomi never did no drugs or alkyhol neither at UNevada.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:58:46pm

LOL

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:58:46pm

re: #126 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If Trump wasn’t an idiot, he wouldn’t have told his rube supporters that this is a done-deal.

imagine the shit we’d be in if trump wasnt an idiot

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:59:12pm

re: #132 dangerman

precisely

i dont believe manafort’s testified yet so how could the judge possible know this?
and even if, that manafort wouldnt be lying that he didnt know

it was really a boneheaded thing for a judge to say

Judge is one of the positions where boneheads get to keep their job. There are lots of wacky judges, and they’re hard to remove.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 12:59:33pm

re: #136 dangerman

imagine the shit we’d be in if trump wasnt an idiot

That’s why we worry about the next demagogue.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:01:16pm
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ericblair  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:02:03pm

re: #99 Big Beautiful Door

This is why I’m hoping Kobach wins the GOP nomination for governor. Colyer wins the general by double digits; Kobach is so unpopular he makes the race a toss-up.

Fun thing is, Mr VoteFraud is the secretary of state, so he gets to run the recount. For his own election. Think about that one. If he was ethical, he’d recuse himself, so fat fucking chance of that.

KS could easily end up with fuckface running his own recount, declaring himself the winner, having his GOP opponent scream his head off about VoteFraud, we get to find out that *gasp* there was VoteFraud but fuckface gets certified anyway, and tries to run in the general election with that going on. If Kansas still votes for him at that point, they deserve him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:02:40pm

re: #139 wrenchwench

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This crap is worse than Watergate. This whole administration makes Nixon and his guys look like the choir boys.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:05:17pm

re: #138 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s why we worry about the next demagogue.

And why there must be consequences! Massive fines and lengthy jail time. Nothing less is acceptable.

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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:06:17pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You know, when I saw this happening the other day, all I thought was ‘suckers” as the stocks price climbed.
I wonder if Musk winds up in a stock manipulation investigation

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I wonder too.
There were folks in the comments right after his tweet telling him…hey dude, this might not be a good idea.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:06:20pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:06:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:10:59pm

re: #138 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s why we worry about the next demagogue.

Before the election, when everyone was expecting that motherfucker to lose, someone wrote a piece saying basically ‘Yeah, Trump’s a buffoon. But the next guy may be like Trump, but smart.”

Honest to god, I’m not sure how any of this could be worse. Our system is not designed to deal with a wannabe strongman as President with a Congress that abdicates its duty.

We see Trump tripping over his own feet, doing stupid things like the tariffs, and overtly corrupt things, and nothing happens. In my wildest dreams, I didn’t think it could be this bad. I still believe Trump is pretty much an illiterate moron. But still, I’m hard pressed to think how someone smarter could make things worse.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:11:07pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

This crap is worse than Watergate. This whole administration makes Nixon and his guys look like the choir boys.

The majority of Nixon’s victims were Vietnamese. Trump’s victims are Americans, and those hoping to become Americans. And everybody else in the world.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:11:26pm

re: #142 MsJ

And why there must be consequences! Massive fines and lengthy jail time. Nothing less is acceptable.

Yep. If we’d locked up Nixon and his criminal team we wouldn’t be dealing with Trump now.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:13:45pm

Back to Normal. Kristol is 100% wrong.

you had your chances, but you never stood up when it counted.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:14:40pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

The majority of Nixon’s victims were Vietnamese. Trump’s victims are Americans, and those hoping to become Americans. And everybody else in the world.*

*unless you are swimming in money. He’s got your back. He’s in your pocket.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:14:52pm

Louisville will remove two statues of Confederate officers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:15:11pm

re: #149 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yep. If we’d locked up Nixon and his criminal team we wouldn’t be dealing with Trump now.

We actually DID lock up his criminal team. Just not Nixon. This allowed him to rehabilitate himself to some extent later on.

But you know, EVEN THEN a lot of the Right said, “Everybody does this. Nixon just got caught.” It’s the same excuse they use for Trump now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:16:40pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:17:31pm

re: #135 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

LOL

The Daily Beast ✔
@thedailybeast
EXCLUSIVE: Omarosa secretly recorded conversations with Trump while working in The White House, and she has played them for people while pushing her new book “UNHINGED,” sources tell The Daily Beast thebea.st

3:44 PM - Aug 8, 2018

Snake bite!

“You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in”

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ericblair  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:17:54pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

But it would be terrible to let the party of Lincoln and TR and Reagan and McCain collapse without a fight.

It’s already dead. It shot itself full of white supremacist drugs, got an opportunistic infection, and rotted to death.

Anyone who has spent their life in the US hasn’t lived through a major political party’s collapse. It can happen, and the unthinkable can become the inevitable very quickly.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:18:49pm
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JordanRules  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:18:50pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

Back to Normal. Kristol is 100% wrong.

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LOL something feels right again.
And another LOL for Mr. Keating Five

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:19:15pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

When you read the headlines about Chris Collins and Kris Kobach and Corey Stewart (and of course Trump), you do wonder if the GOP is salvageable—or even worth saving. But it would be terrible to let the party of Lincoln and TR and Reagan and McCain collapse without a fight..

They sort of fought, a few last-ditch anti-Trump huffs but then rolled over and gave in to the lure of power

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Chrysicat  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:20:11pm
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wheat-dogg  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:20:17pm

So it seems Omarosa has tapes.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:22:14pm

re: #156 ericblair

Anyone who has spent their life in the US hasn’t lived through a major political party’s collapse. It can happen, and the unthinkable can become the inevitable very quickly.

I hope to live through this one.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:22:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:23:36pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

Back to Normal. Kristol is 100% wrong.

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you had your chances, but you never stood up when it counted.

No, it wouldn’t especially because you let those elements into your party.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:24:15pm

re: #157 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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The bear needs to be peeing on the elephant.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:25:02pm

re: #161 wheat-dogg

So it seems Omarosa has tapes.

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I bet Putin has Trump saying all sorts of shit that would damage him big time.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:25:12pm

re: #163 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[We need a fiscally Conservative party…]

We have so much fiscal, we don’t need the conservative. It’s always holding us back.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:25:16pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

Before the election, when everyone was expecting that motherfucker to lose, someone wrote a piece saying basically ‘Yeah, Trump’s a buffoon. But the next guy may be like Trump, but smart.”

Honest to god, I’m not sure how any of this could be worse. Our system is not designed to deal with a wannabe strongman as President with a Congress that abdicates its duty.

We see Trump tripping over his own feet, doing stupid things like the tariffs, and overtly corrupt things, and nothing happens. In my wildest dreams, I didn’t think it could be this bad. I still believe Trump is pretty much an illiterate moron. But still, I’m hard pressed to think how someone smarter could make things worse.

the bold part plus a largely complicit press/media

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:27:24pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

Back to Normal. Kristol is 100% wrong.

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you had your chances, but you never stood up when it counted.

Stood up? He was one of the drivers. Almost all of them were. Obama was evil and/or stupid and/or corrupt and/or Other.

Was there *any* Republican who didn’t play those cards over the last decade? Anyone?

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:28:13pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

We actually DID lock up his criminal team. Just not Nixon. This allowed him to rehabilitate himself to some extent later on.

But you know, EVEN THEN a lot of the Right said, “Everybody does this. Nixon just got caught.” It’s the same excuse they use for Trump now.

as i said this morning

they know
they always ‘know’
their goal is to get away with it / beat the system

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:28:28pm

re: #169 MsJ

Stood up? He was one of the drivers. Almost all of them were. Obama was evil and/or stupid and/or corrupt and/or Other.

Was there *any* Republican who didn’t play those cards over the last decade? Anyone?

ODS is very real, but we used to just call it “racism”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:29:12pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

Back to Normal. Kristol is 100% wrong.

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you had your chances, but you never stood up when it counted.

This reminds me of when, back in the first Obama Administration, I found myself increasingly besieged by idiots and racists on the political subforum of an archery/bowhunting forum. When I started posting there, there were a couple other liberal and moderate posters, and with some few exceptions the discussions were amicable, with both sides making fun of the extremists. Over the Bush Administration, the arguments became more strident, the moderates and liberals less welcome, and the extremists more numerous.

Then Obama was elected, and they totally lost their shit. Guys who had always been reasonable started posting Birther shit, and ‘Bathhouse Barry’ shit, and ‘Moochelle’ shit. I stayed on another year or so, getting more and more frustrated with the place, but feeling like I needed to fight for it, because it had been worthwhile at one point.

Eventually, I gave up, and wished I’d given up sooner. Now, the place is full of Trumpkins and QAnon followers, and open racists.

Kristol needs to realize that the GOP was never, in his lifetime, what he thought it was. And it can never again become what he imagines. It’s gone. It’s fascists, all the way down.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:30:37pm

re: #161 wheat-dogg

So it seems Omarosa has tapes.

Cohen taped Trump without his knowledge. Omarosa taped Trump without his knowledge. The odds are pretty damn good that Putin also taped Trump without his knowledge and is now holding it over Trump’s head.

trump: “Putin gave me this nice pen. isn’t it nice? people say he doesn’t give one to just anybody.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:32:23pm

re: #173 dangerman

trump: “Putin gave me this nice pen. isn’t it nice? people say he doesn’t give one to just anybody.”

“He gave it to me at the G20 last year. And when I saw him in Helsinki, he had his Pen Technicians check it out, make sure it was in good shape!”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:32:36pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

This reminds me of when, back in the first Obama Administration, I found myself increasingly besieged by idiots and racists on the political subforum of an archery/bowhunting forum. When I started posting there, there were a couple other liberal and moderate posters, and with some few exceptions the discussions were amicable, with both sides making fun of the extremists. Over the Bush Administration, the arguments became more strident, the moderates and liberals less welcome, and the extremists more numerous.

Then Obama was elected, and they totally lost their shit. Guys who had always been reasonable started posting Birther shit, and ‘Bathhouse Barry’ shit, and ‘Moochelle’ shit. I stayed on another year or so, getting more and more frustrated with the place, but feeling like I needed to fight for it, because it had been worthwhile at one point.

Eventually, I gave up, and wished I’d given up sooner. Now, the place is full of Trumpkins and QAnon followers, and open racists.

Kristol needs to realize that the GOP was never, in his lifetime, what he thought it was. And it can never again become what he imagines. It’s gone. It’s fascists, all the way down.

A forum dedicated to hunting is almost always going to go wingnut these days. City people get their food at the supermarket for the most part, so hunting is majority-Conservative.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:34:24pm
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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:35:14pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White


Kristol needs to realize that the GOP was never, in his lifetime, what he thought it was. And it can never again become what he imagines. It’s gone. It’s fascists, all the way down.

the gop can easily be sorted into two groups

- the donor class - the money people and recipients of tax cuts (lucy)
- the rube/mark/sucker class - that the donor class lies to and manipulates so they’ll vote how the donor class wants. (charlie brown)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:37:48pm

re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

A forum dedicated to hunting is almost always going to go wingnut these days. City people get their food at the supermarket for the most part, so hunting is majority-Conservative.

Oh, of course it was majority Conservative. But like Conservatism itself, it’s been taken over completely by racists, know-nothings, and Christianists. It HAD BEEN reasonable - you could debate ideas and facts.

One of the keys, for me, was when some clown posted one of those ‘Facts About Social Security’ email outrage things. I found a page on the ssa.gov website debunking it in detail.

He told me he chose to believe the email over the SSA.

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unproven innocence  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:38:51pm

re: #173 dangerman

trump: “Putin gave me this nice pen. isn’t it nice? people say he doesn’t give one to just anybody.”

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

“He gave it to me at the G20 last year. And when I saw him in Helsinki, he had his Pen Technicians check it out, make sure it was in good shape!”

It belongs in a Faraday cage, along with a self-contained broadband RF-detector. Of course, it is possible that it only transmits when triggered.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:39:51pm

re: #179 unproven innocence

It belongs in a Faraday cage, along with a self-contained broadband RF-detector. Of course, it is possible that it only transmits when triggered.

Based on his Tweets, Trump only transmits when triggered….
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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:40:17pm

re: #156 ericblair

It’s already dead. It shot itself full of white supremacist drugs, got an opportunistic infection, and rotted to death.

Anyone who has spent their life in the US hasn’t lived through a major political party’s collapse. It can happen, and the unthinkable can become the inevitable very quickly.

Krokodil, a suitably Russian version of the morphine analogue desomorphine, is the bathtub gin from hell of illicit IV drugs.

en.wikipedia.org

If you’re at work, I’d not lookup pics/videos of Krokodil users; that shit fucks you up real bad, so bad that parts of you die and rot off while you’re still (nominally) alive.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:40:54pm

Steve Schmidt a bit ago on Nicole Wallace’s show (paraphrasing)…

“When you look at Pruett, Zinke, Price, Collins, etc. you find they make Jack Abramoff look like a piker!”

John Heileman a few minutes later (paraphrasing)…

“I think back about Dan Rostenkowski, and his misdeeds all seem like parking tickets.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:41:57pm

re: #174 Blind Frog Belly White

“He gave it to me at the G20 last year. And when I saw him in Helsinki, he had his Pen Technicians check it out, make sure it was in good shape!”

It just needed new batteries.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:42:52pm

re: #181 TedStriker

Krokodil, a suitably Russian version of the morphine analogue desomorphine, is the bathtub gin from hell of illicit IV drugs.

en.wikipedia.org

If you’re at work, I’d not lookup pics/videos of Krokodil users; that shit fucks you up real bad, so bad that parts of you die and rot off while you’re still (nominally) alive.

Having already seen photos on this subject, I’ll add that I’d not look it up anywhere.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:44:05pm

re: #179 unproven innocence

It belongs in a Faraday cage, along with a self-contained broadband RF-detector. Of course, it is possible that it only transmits when triggered.

I’d have it just transmit when it sees a particular shade of orange.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:44:09pm

re: #179 unproven innocence

It belongs under the head of a 20 pound sledgehammer.

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Kragar  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:45:17pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:45:17pm

re: #177 dangerman

the gop can easily be sorted into two groups

- the donor class - the money people and recipients of tax cuts (lucy)
- the rube/mark/sucker class - that the donor class lies to and manipulates so they’ll vote how the donor class wants. (charlie brown)

Those are the wannabes. They believe the donor class wishes to be bigger. They are wrong.

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mmmirele  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:45:51pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

My mother and brother have a dog like this. She loves my brother but she is so excited to see me. My brother said, “you could leave for 10 minutes and she’d be just as excited to see you when you come back.”

I have a cat and it’s always, “oh you’re here” whenever I come home. She just doesn’t care.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:46:37pm

re: #188 wrenchwench

Those are the wannabes. They believe the donor class wishes to be bigger. They are wrong.

If the donor class wanted to be larger, they’d be Democrats, rather than being in the “I’ve got mine, fuck you” party.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:47:00pm

re: #183 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It just needed new batteries.

right
wouldnt even have the presence of mind to say ‘ink’

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:47:26pm

re: #189 mmmirele

My mother and brother have a dog like this. She loves my brother but she is so excited to see me. My brother said, “you could leave for 10 minutes and she’d be just as excited to see you when you come back.”

I have a cat and it’s always, “oh you’re here” whenever I come home. She just doesn’t care.

My cat is always excited to see me. She knows that wet food and treats appear when I’m around.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:48:57pm
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Nyet  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:49:11pm

The twitter Nazi from yesterday (with 17k followers) got a very short timeout yesterday and is back spewing filth, proving once again that Twitter collaborates with Nazis.
The other guy is also back.

This doesn’t mean we should give up though.

Another portion of tweets for reporting for racist harassment or targeted harassment, or both.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:49:13pm

re: #190 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If the donor class wanted to be larger, they’d be Democrats, rather than being in the “I’ve got mine, fuck you” party.

correct
they dont not want to even entertain the idea that the pie can be expanded

the rubes fight for any crumbs that fall to the floor instead of focusing on who’s sitting at the table

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:50:47pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

why would a prominent United States senator who recently ran for president need a letter of introduction?

why would a prominent United States senator who recently ran for president need a letter of introduction be in effing russia?

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:51:18pm
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ericblair  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:53:59pm

re: #179 unproven innocence

It belongs in a Faraday cage, along with a self-contained broadband RF-detector. Of course, it is possible that it only transmits when triggered.

The NSA museum, which is easily accessible to the public if you’re hanging around central Maryland, has some rather interesting listening devices. It’s truly amazing the amount of human ingenuity that’s been put into this. Example: The Thing.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:54:56pm
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:59:34pm

re: #150 I Would Prefer Not To

Back to Normal. Kristol is 100% wrong.

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you had your chances, but you never stood up when it counted.

A lot of Republicans are going to be like Nick Fury in Captain America: Civil War. They’re going to want to save the - to them - good parts and cannot see that they cannot be separated.

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jeffreyw  Aug 8, 2018 • 1:59:57pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:00:48pm

re: #200 gocart mozart

I think it’s a terrible idea, and told MH so yesterday. If this happens fascists will destroy her star imagining that they’re getting even. They should replace it with a miniature toilet.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:02:15pm

re: #160 Chrysicat

Just like the NYT creatng the children’s best seller list because they didn’t want Harry Potter in the main list, and why the Oscar’s created an animated category.

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unproven innocence  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:02:23pm

re: #199 ericblair

The NSA museum, which is easily accessible to the public if you’re hanging around central Maryland, has some rather interesting listening devices. It’s truly amazing the amount of human ingenuity that’s been put into this. Example: The Thing.

Yeah, I read about that decades ago —a totally passive (unpowered) listening device.

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Teukka  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:02:55pm

So one of my favorite artists dropped a new one:

Thomas Bergersen - American Dream (Continuous Mix)

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Skip Intro  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:09:52pm

What was that about the Kochs not helping Republicans?

Koch-backed group makes moves to help Cruz ahead of expensive Senate race

Isn’t legalized bribery grand?

Read more here: sanluisobispo.com

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:11:51pm

re: #205 unproven innocence

Yeah, I read about that decades ago —a totally passive (unpowered) listening device.

Disguised as the Great Seal of the United States, no less.

en.wikipedia.org

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:16:58pm

remember this:

We Still Don’t Know What Mueller Knows (roll call via politicalwire)

…the Mueller investigation doesn’t leak. Everything that we know about his investigation comes from Paul Manafort’s trial; more than 30 other indictments and guilty pleas; reports of subpoenas by the grand jury; self-serving comments by mouthpieces like Rudy Giuliani; and Trump’s desperate, caged-man, all-caps tweets.”

“That sounds ample, except none of this reveals Mueller’s timetable, how much he has learned about the president’s conduct and business dealings and whether the independent counsel will issue a final report recommending impeachment.”

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:19:22pm

re: #208 TedStriker

Disguised as the Great Seal of the United States, no less.

en.wikipedia.org

one of the aurelio zen books, Cabal, i think, the bug was put inside a cross hung on a wall

objects ‘beyond reproach’ - the kinds of things no one would think to check…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:19:30pm

re: #198 gocart mozart

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:21:51pm

re: #205 unproven innocence

Yeah, I read about that decades ago —a totally passive (unpowered) listening device.

What a great device, invented by none other than Léon Theremin of electronic music fame. So much more admirable than simply buying off traitors and crooks or duping ignorant rubes.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:22:17pm

re: #209 dangerman

remember this:

We Still Don’t Know What Mueller Knows (roll call via politicalwire)

What I hope Mueller knows is the urgency of fast action. People are suffering and dying, with many more at risk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:22:36pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:22:54pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:23:43pm

re: #201 Belafon

A lot of Republicans are going to be like Nick Fury in Captain America: Civil War. They’re going to want to save the - to them - good parts and cannot see that they cannot be separated.

Hail Hydra!
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:23:48pm

I wonder how many bugs the Deep State has planted in AR-15s? Maybe all of them.

Be afraid, RWNJs, be very afraid.

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TedStriker  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:23:49pm

re: #210 dangerman

one of the aurelio zen books, Cabal, i think, the bug was put inside a cross hung on a wall

objects ‘beyond reproach’ - the kinds of things no one would think to check…

“The Thing”, as the Russian passive bug is called, has a helluva pedigree:

The Thing was designed by Soviet Russian inventor Léon Theremin,[2] best-known for his invention of the theremin, an electronic musical instrument.

en.wikipedia.org

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:27:58pm

just saw this:

People Trump accused of secretly taping him:
• Barack Obama
• James Comey

People who actually secretly taped Trump:
• Michael Cohen
• Omarosa Manigault

//the best judge of character//

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:28:21pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:28:31pm

Two thoughts…

1) “This time, for sure!

2) We’ll need all that asbestos for all the coal-fired power plants we’ll be building.

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steve_davis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:29:47pm

re: #2 Dr. Matt

We have a new winner for the definition of White Privilege :

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the thing that pisses me off about this is that, other than the possible speeding, she’s going to take the same 4 points for “disregarding a stop sign” that I took because apparently my front wheels did not stop for the magically prescribed time that the teenaged officer determined was acceptable for him to avoid making quota on me.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:33:24pm
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:35:44pm
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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:35:52pm

re: #220 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:37:16pm

re: #224 MsJ

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The Russian company even puts a picture of Trump on the package - “Buy TRUMP Asbestos Products! Guaranteed not to kill you immediately!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:38:48pm

re: #226 Blind Frog Belly White

The Russian company even puts a picture of Trump on the package - “Buy TRUMP Asbestos Products! Guaranteed not to kill you immediately!”

Make Asbestos Great Again!

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:39:09pm

re: #221 Blind Frog Belly White

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Two thoughts…

1) “This time, for sure!

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2) We’ll need all that asbestos for all the coal-fired power plants we’ll be building.

Charlie Pierce:

So here we have the president*, who is a longtime asbestos-denialist, or at least as far back as when he first needed to touch up Russians to stay afloat, loosening restrictions on a preposterously dangerous carcinogen, at which point a Russian company connected to Vladimir Putin that mines for asbestos puts the president*’s face on bags of its product. (Is the president* getting a cut on this? I hope not, because that would be illegal, you know?) It’s a shame how hard it is to connect the dots here. It’s all about money, and ain’t a damn thing funny.

esquire.com

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:40:51pm

….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:42:46pm

re: #228 BeachDem

Charlie Pierce:

So here we have the president*, who is a longtime asbestos-denialist, or at least as far back as when he first needed to touch up Russians to stay afloat, loosening restrictions on a preposterously dangerous carcinogen, at which point a Russian company connected to Vladimir Putin that mines for asbestos puts the president*’s face on bags of its product. (Is the president* getting a cut on this? I hope not, because that would be illegal, you know?) It’s a shame how hard it is to connect the dots here. It’s all about money, and ain’t a damn thing funny.

esquire.com

Next up - DDT for everyone!

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:43:56pm

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

Next up - DDT for everyone!

“Lead is actually really cheap and easy to use for pipes. Not a lot of people know that.”

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:44:19pm

This fucking judge.

4:29 p.m.: Prosecutors call a witness who has watched the whole trial, angering Judge Ellis (UPDATE: who earlier permitted it)

Next up for prosecutors is IRS Revenue Agent Michael Welch, who was assigned in April to help prosecutors prepare for trial. Welch testified that he examined Paul Manafort’s business and tax records and, as with the last witness, prepared charts summarizing what he had found.

Welch’s appearance on the stand triggered another heated confrontation between Judge T.S. Ellis III and prosecutors. After going through Welch’s qualifications, prosecutors asked if he could be treated as an “expert” witness — meaning he, unlike other witnesses, will be allowed to offer his professional opinion in court. Ellis said he could do so. Assistant U.S. Attorney Uzo Asonye then revealed that Welch had been seated in the courtroom for the duration of the proceedings.

Ellis erupted, saying that he typically bars all witnesses — save the case agent — from observing the proceedings, and thought he had done so in this case.

Asonye responded that he thought experts were also allowed to stay and observe. Ellis said that was not his practice, and while he would permit Welch to testify, he issued a stern warning to Asonye, who prosecutes cases in his district.

“I want you to remember, don’t do that again. When I exclude witnesses, I mean everybody,” Ellis growled.

UPDATE: Asonye said he believed the transcript would back him up that in this case, Ellis had allowed both the case agent and the expert to remain. “I don’t care what the transcript said; maybe I made a mistake,” Ellis snapped. “Don’t do it again.”

The transcript, kindly provided by the beneficent folks at CNN, does in fact show that Ellis allowed the expert to stay in court.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:46:18pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

“Lead is actually really cheap and easy to use for pipes. Not a lot of people know that.”

“And not only does it make great paint, but it tastes great, too!”

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:46:56pm
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unproven innocence  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:47:02pm

re: #231 Targetpractice

“Lead is actually really cheap and easy to use for pipes. Not a lot of people know that.”

But plumbing means lead pipes, literally.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:47:32pm

re: #232 MsJ

This fucking judge.

I can’t believe a judge who read the prosecution the Riot Act over his personal beliefs about their boss would stoop to trying to throw the trial in favor of the defense.

//////

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BeachDem  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:48:01pm

Weren’t we talking earlier about how Rick Wilson was only on temporary leave from the asylum? Why yes, I believe we were.

Charlie Pierce talking about Wilson’s new anti-Trump book:

Parental Guidance: There’s a chapter in there about Hillary Rodham Clinton in which there is a great amount of evidence that Wilson is going to go right back to being a Republican rottweiler as soon as sanity once again reigneth in the land.

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Nyet  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:48:08pm

re: #195 Nyet

JFYI.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:49:52pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:50:51pm
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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:50:57pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

I can’t believe a judge who read the prosecution the Riot Act over his personal beliefs about their boss would stoop to trying to throw the trial in favor of the defense.

//////

After testimony from this witness, I can’t see anything but guilty.

5:13 p.m.: IRS agent: Manafort did not pay taxes on $15.5 million in Ukrainian income

Prosecutors are using IRS agent Michael Welch to state clearly what they argued in opening statements and have had witnesses testify on for several days now — Paul Manafort did not pay taxes on all of the income he earned in Ukraine between 2010 and 2014.

Welch said Manafort received about $15.5 million from Ukraine which he then paid directly to vendors, and which he did not report or pay taxes on. The money never entered Manafort’s business or personal accounts in the United States, Welch said. Manafort also falsely classified another $1.5 million in income as a loan, Welch testified. An FBI accountant testified earlier Wednesday that more than $60 million flowed through Manafort’s overseas accounts between 2010 and 2014, and he spent $15 million of that on homes, clothes and other personal purchases.

Asked the obvious question — whether the IRS would want to know about this money — Welch gave the obvious answer: yes, they would.

Welch said he also looked at the income that was never brought into the United States. He said he was “conservative” in what he allowed as possible business expenses — including 132,000 euros to a yacht company, $49,000 for an Italian villa rental, $45,000 for cosmetic dentistry and $19,800 for a riding academy — because he heard “no testimony” explaining their purpose.

Even under that conservative analysis, he said, Manafort did not report millions of dollars in off-shore income.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:52:08pm

re: #237 BeachDem

Weren’t we talking earlier about how Rick Wilson was only on temporary leave from the asylum? Why yes, I believe we were.

Charlie Pierce talking about Wilson’s new anti-Trump book:

Parental Guidance: There’s a chapter in there about Hillary Rodham Clinton in which there is a great amount of evidence that Wilson is going to go right back to being a Republican rottweiler as soon as sanity once again reigneth in the land.

Color. Me. Shocked. (Not in the least.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:53:34pm

re: #234 MsJ

Was she supposed to just let the giant spider get her?

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:54:59pm

re: #237 BeachDem

Weren’t we talking earlier about how Rick Wilson was only on temporary leave from the asylum? Why yes, I believe we were.

Charlie Pierce talking about Wilson’s new anti-Trump book:

Parental Guidance: There’s a chapter in there about Hillary Rodham Clinton in which there is a great amount of evidence that Wilson is going to go right back to being a Republican rottweiler as soon as sanity once again reigneth in the land.

This is why, when people tell me “We need to work with these people to bring down Trump,” I just rolls my eyes. They’re not our allies, whether outright or of convenience, because they’re not really fighting this war. They’re just siting on the sidelines, moaning about how “civil” things used to be and assuring folks that they had nothing to do with the current messiness.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:55:27pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

From the article:

Six days earlier, in a neighboring county about 30 miles away, Surjit Malhi, 50, was ambushed by two men while putting up [ed. Republican] campaign signs near Turlock, California.

I wonder if he’s still a Republican.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:55:53pm

I haven’t watched it. Probably will not.

(Plus. why is it won’t, instead of willn’t?)

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:56:06pm

re: #241 MsJ

After testimony from this witness, I can’t see anything but guilty.

Given his behavior up til now, I could totally see Ellis setting aside a guilty verdict from the jury and letting Manafort go free.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:57:31pm

re: #234 MsJ

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The “Spice” is the most dangerous drug on that list. The original product was pretty safe, just a little more habit-forming than real pot. As safe drugs like JWH-018 got banned, they’d switch to other drugs. Eventually they ran out of reasonably safe options and chose to stay in business while poisoning people.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:57:41pm

re: #230 Blind Frog Belly White

Next up - DDT for everyone!

DDT is really an unknown carcinogen danger for humans, except at high does it does cause acute symptoms like vomiting. It’s the upper eschelon predator birds that get hosed with DDT.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:58:51pm

re: #246 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I haven’t watched it. Probably will not.

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(Plus. why is it won’t, instead of willn’t?)

I won’t either. Shooters deserve zero attention from the public. It’s the victims, and our gun madness, that need attention.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 2:58:52pm

re: #247 Targetpractice

Given his behavior up til now, I could totally see Ellis setting aside a guilty verdict from the jury and letting Manafort go free.

I keep trying to talk myself into thinking that he’s being hard on the prosecution so there are no ground for appeal.

If a guilty verdict comes back I can’t see him seeing it aside.

But what do I know?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:00:11pm

OK, what damn planet am I on?

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Jay C  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:00:31pm

re: #246 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I haven’t watched it. Probably will not.

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(Plus. why is it won’t, instead of willn’t?)

Yeah, Nick Cruz was definitely playing with a few cards short of a deck:

Detective John Curcio did most of the talking. Most of Cruz’s answers were very short. Cruz told the detective he bought his first gun at 18 and collected three shotguns, an AR-15, a handgun and an AK-47. Cruz told the detective he bought guns to protect himself from the voice [in his head that told him to “kill”] and also kept the guns locked up to keep the voice from getting to them.

He estimated he spent about $4,000 on firearms and ammunition. His mother had taken him to buy some of the guns, the transcript states.

The detective asked him whether his mom questioned purchasing so many guns. Cruz said he told her they were for his protection and because they looked “cool.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:00:46pm

re: #246 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

(Plus. why is it won’t, instead of willn’t?)

Because English is a horrible language with more exceptions than rules.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:00:51pm

re: #248 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The “Spice” is the most dangerous drug on that list. The original product was pretty safe, just a little more habit-forming than real pot. As safe drugs like JWH-018 got banned, they’d switch to other drugs. Eventually they ran out of reasonably safe options and chose to stay in business while poisoning people.

This is the first I’ve ever heard of that. What is it? Synthetic pot?

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:01:00pm

re: #232 MsJ

This fucking judge.

I have a feeling the national attention on this case has gone to the head of this judge. He’s grandstanding and letting everyone know this is HIS courtroom and it will be run they way he sees fit whether it makes sense or not.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:01:08pm

re: #244 Targetpractice

This is why, when people tell me “We need to work with these people to bring down Trump,” I just rolls my eyes. They’re not our allies, whether outright or of convenience, because they’re not really fighting this war. They’re just siting on the sidelines, moaning about how “civil” things used to be and assuring folks that they had nothing to do with the current messiness.

They’re not going anywhere, so there’s no choice but to work with them. America’s right might be willing to kill all the decent people, but decent people won’t purge the right.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:02:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:02:56pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:03:30pm

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, what damn planet am I on?

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When Judge Napolitano is the voice of reason… .

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:03:50pm

re: #252 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, what damn planet am I on?

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This new world is very confusing.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:04:10pm

re: #257 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re not going anywhere, so there’s no choice but to work with them. America’s right might be willing to kill all the decent people, but decent people won’t purge the right.

There is a choice: We continue to treat them as the boot-lickers they really are. That they hate Trump does not mean that they’ve suddenly found religion, it just means they view him as a threat to their little fiefdom. This isn’t even on the level of allying with the Soviets in WWII, this is supporting the Cuban rebels because we think they can be bought off the same as Batista was. They’re not fighting this war for us, and they’re going to betray us the very moment Trump is gone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:04:17pm

re: #249 Colère Tueur de Lapin

DDT is really an unknown carcinogen danger for humans, except at high does it does cause acute symptoms like vomiting. It’s the upper eschelon predator birds that get hosed with DDT.

When DDT use was limited, it had already lost effectiveness in many places due to overuse. The Right likes to paint it as “They banned DDT, and then malaria came back with a vengeance!”, but actually the mosquitoes and the malaria were already coming back, because they’d carpetbombed with the stuff and the ‘skeeters - inevitably - became resistant, which made it useless even for residential spraying.

If they’d stuck with using it in homes, they could still be using it. But you know people - anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:05:20pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

When DDT use was limited, it had already lost effectiveness in many places due to overuse. The Right likes to paint it as “They banned DDT, and then malaria came back with a vengeance!”, but actually the mosquitoes and the malaria were already coming back, because they’d carpetbombed with the stuff and the ‘skeeters - inevitably - became resistant, which made it useless even for residential spraying.

If they’d stuck with using it in homes, they could still be using it. But you know people - anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

It’s the way of the world.

1) Find a new miracle chemical.
2) Market the hell out of it.
3) Everything becomes resistant to it.
4) ???
5) PROFIT! DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:06:02pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

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After the fires:

“Okay, time to put those rules back into place, Mr. President.”

“Hey now, why do that when there will be more fires? Better to just leave the suspension in place. Besides, there’s farmers who really want that water…”

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:06:54pm

re: #238 Nyet

JFYI.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:06:56pm

re: #264 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s the way of the world.

1) Find a new miracle chemical.
2) Market the hell out of it.
3) Everything becomes resistant to it.
4) ???
5) PROFIT! DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

Is that why it seems like the roaches laugh when I pull out the can of Raid?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:06:59pm

re: #262 Targetpractice

There is a choice: We continue to treat them as the boot-lickers they really are. That they hate Trump does not mean that they’ve suddenly found religion, it just means they view him as a threat to their little fiefdom. This isn’t even on the level of allying with the Soviets in WWII, this is supporting the Cuban rebels because we think they can be bought off the same as Batista was. They’re not fighting this war for us, and they’re going to betray us the very moment Trump is gone.

I’d put it this way - I want to go back to the time when Republicans are just wrong about everything, not actually working to bring down the republic.

Alliance with Stalin was crucial to beating Nazi Germany. It didn’t make him our friend.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:08:00pm

re: #260 Big Beautiful Door

When Judge Napolitano is the voice of reason… .

re: #261 MsJ

This new world is very confusing.

This must be part of the reason Bill Kristol is back to being Bill Kristol today.
There is just so much woke allocated to GOP pundits that they have to timeshare it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:08:24pm

re: #264 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s the way of the world.

1) Find a new miracle chemical.
2) Market the hell out of it.
3) Everything becomes resistant to it.
4) ???
5) PROFIT! DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

Can you say antibiotics? An 80 year uncontrolled experiment in which we are just gleaning some of the negatives. Continully carpet bombing our microbiome is … problematic.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:09:14pm

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d put it this way - I want to go back to the time when Republicans are just wrong about everything, not actually working to bring down the republic.

Alliance with Stalin was crucial to beating Nazi Germany. It didn’t make him our friend.

Yet the Kristols, the Wilsons, the Rubins of the GOP world? They don’t want to go back, they like where they are, they just think Trump is too loud about the things they’ve been trying to accomplish for decades. Just like Hitler and Stalin, it’s two sides of the same coin. Defeat Trump and you still have to deal with a GOP that will elect another like him just as soon as the stink airs out.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:10:30pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

When DDT use was limited, it had already lost effectiveness in many places due to overuse. The Right likes to paint it as “They banned DDT, and then malaria came back with a vengeance!”, but actually the mosquitoes and the malaria were already coming back, because they’d carpetbombed with the stuff and the ‘skeeters - inevitably - became resistant, which made it useless even for residential spraying.

If they’d stuck with using it in homes, they could still be using it. But you know people - anything worth doing is worth overdoing.

Are you forgetting the amount of damage DDT did to birds and wildlife…and that it is a carcinogen?

That had a lot to do with its banning I believe.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:11:53pm

re: #244 Targetpractice

There are plenty of them that understand that Trump is a threat to the Republic. After it’s over, we will be back to arguing about the proper size and function of the government, but you have to have a government to do that.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:14:31pm

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d put it this way - I want to go back to the time when Republicans are just wrong about everything, not actually working to bring down the republic.

Alliance with Stalin was crucial to beating Nazi Germany. It didn’t make him our friend.

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:16:34pm

re: #274 wrenchwench

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy.

No more, no less.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:18:10pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

Are you forgetting the amount of damage DDT did to birds and wildlife…and that it is a carcinogen?

Apex predator bird’s and bad shells. The CDC classifies DDT as a carcinogenic unknown.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:18:47pm

re: #272 ObserverArt

Are you forgetting the amount of damage DDT did to birds and wildlife…and that it is a carcinogen?

That had a lot to do with its banning I believe.

No, I’m not forgetting it. It wasn’t germane to my point, which was that the DDT story the Right likes to tell ( DDT is a totally safe pesticide that nearly eradicated malaria until Rachel Carson banned it and tens of millions died she’s worse than Hitler!!) is bullshit, that its overuse in agriculture rendered it nearly useless, and that malarial mosquitoes had already acquired resistance and were rebounding to pre-DDT levels when its agricultural use was banned.

BTW, it isn’t totally banned. It’s still used for some limited disease prevention purposes, like spraying walls of dwellings, where it stays put and remains toxic to mosquitoes, thus protecting the inhabitants. But no more carpet bombing swamps and crops with the stuffl.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:19:48pm

re: #276 Colère Tueur de Lapin

re: #272 ObserverArt

Also, CTdL had that covered.

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dangerman  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:21:13pm

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d put it this way - I want to go back to the time when Republicans are just wrong about everything, not actually working to bring down the republic.

Alliance with Stalin was crucial to beating Nazi Germany. It didn’t make him our friend.

principled opponents are welcome when politics is a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see aspects of the world differently.

when it becomes, as it is, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a “our team no matter what”, degenerative, brutal struggle for power in which one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably while they themselves run roughshod over it all, well then eff em without mercy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:21:38pm

It’s funny how we still use words like “tapes” and “taped” when cassettes haven’t really been a thing for between 15 and 20 years now.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:22:29pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:22:29pm

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

No, I’m not forgetting it. It wasn’t germane to my point, which was that the DDT story the Right likes to tell ( DDT is a totally safe pesticide that nearly eradicated malaria until Rachel Carson banned it and tens of millions died she’s worse than Hitler!!) is bullshit, that its overuse in agriculture rendered it nearly useless, and that malarial mosquitoes had already acquired resistance and were rebounding to pre-DDT levels when its agricultural use was banned.

BTW, it isn’t totally banned. It’s still used for some limited disease prevention purposes, like spraying walls of dwellings, where it stays put and remains toxic to mosquitoes, thus protecting the inhabitants. But no more carpet bombing swamps and crops with the stuffl.

I can confirm that last bit. They spray it around buildings in India and SE Asia, both when I was a kid and when I went back a decade ago.

I was dumbfounded the first time a Yank told me that it was banned worldwide.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:22:55pm

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

, that its overuse in agriculture rendered it nearly useless, and that malarial mosquitoes had already acquired resistance and were rebounding to pre-DDT levels when its agricultural use was banned

Evolution in action. An upramping of new sub-species variants and a selection for those mutants that are resistant. Voila, no harm, no foul, mosquitoes are back.

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retired cynic  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:22:59pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, a quick Dory Story….

I wake up this morning, and as usual Mrs. FBW and the dogs are already out in the living room. I come in, and Dory scampers to my feet where she crouches, practically vibrating with excitement. I pick her up and she’s frantic to lick my face and be held while her tail is going like a fan on a hot day…. (snip)

Each greeting was the same level of frantic enthusiasm. This puppy friggin’ LOVES me!! Take that, Mr. “I lifted my head off the bed, what more do you want?” Greyhound!

I love sighthounds! (grin)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:23:19pm

re: #275 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No more, no less.

Honestly, though - a Republican politico thinks Hillary Clinton is the AntiChrist? This is my surprised face.

They all do. It’s part of their DNA. They can’t even explain why. I mean, they can explain their differences with her policies, but as far as explaining the depths of their hatred? Nope.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:24:00pm

I don’t think Trump has said anything about Alex Jones, has he? I missed it if he did.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:24:11pm

re: #256 ObserverArt

I have a feeling the national attention on this case has gone to the head of this judge. He’s grandstanding and letting everyone know this is HIS courtroom and it will be run they way he sees fit whether it makes sense or not.

Judge Ito, 2018.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:24:37pm

re: #283 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Evolution in action. An upramping of new sub-species variants and a selection for those mutants that are resistant. Voila, no harm, no foul, mosquitoes are back.

Apply a strong selective pressure to a rapidly reproducing population. Text book selection.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:25:39pm

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny how we still use words like “tapes” and “taped” when cassettes haven’t really been a thing for between 15 and 20 years now.

There is a wonderful revival of using film to make films… er, um, wait… ;-)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:27:27pm

re: #289 Unshaken Defiance

There is a wonderful revival of using film to make films… er, um, wait… ;-)

How many of us still call them albums?

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:28:22pm

re: #285 Blind Frog Belly White

Honestly, though - a Republican politico thinks Hillary Clinton is the AntiChrist? This is my surprised face.

They all do. It’s part of their DNA. They can’t even explain why. I mean, they can explain their differences with her policies, but as far as explaining the depths of their hatred? Nope.

Yet, many Republicans actually like her when they work with her, often acknowledging she is a sharp political wonk.

Summation: Clinton is a name they crafted over many a year that sparks insta-hate in their base. So, why spoil a good go-to tool when needed?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:29:09pm

Trump gets his wall but Mexico did not pay for it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:31:47pm

re: #289 Unshaken Defiance

There is a wonderful revival of using film to make films… er, um, wait… ;-)

Lol.

I took a college photography class from 2001-2003 and my professor was hardcore ANTI-digital photography.

Of course this was well before the days of DSLRs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:32:12pm

re: #291 ObserverArt

Yet, many Republicans actually like her when they work with her, often acknowledging she is a sharp political wonk.

Summation: Clinton is a name they crafted over many a year that sparks insta-hate in their base. So, why spoil a good go-to tool when needed?

Funny, it’s almost like there’s something about her that makes her acceptable in a more subservient role, but not as a leader. Some characteristic of hers. If only we could figure out what that is.

Oh, well. I suppose we’ll never understand it.
/

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:32:36pm

re: #260 Big Beautiful Door

When Judge Napolitano is the voice of reason… .

I don’t think he’s the voice of reason. I think he sees the writing on the wall; that manafort is in deep trouble. At that point the options are to be realistic or go down the Deep State path.

And I think that path is becoming untenable by people who want some kind of a career, other than in the Q zone, after trump.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:34:27pm

re: #290 Blind Frog Belly White

How many of us still call them albums?

Many. I do. Charles does here at LGF.

It still designates a music collection even if digitally downloaded.

Type 2018 rock album releases in Google.

Even record isn’t going away, more vinyl made now than 10 years ago. Damn kids! Back about 1990 you would have thought that was dust-binned.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:35:11pm

re: #295 MsJ

I don’t think he’s the voice of reason. I think he sees the writing on the wall; that manafort is in deep trouble. At that point the options are to be realistic or go down the Deep State path.

And I think that path is becoming untenable by people who want some kind of a career, other than in the Q zone, after trump.

Fair assessment. To deny Manafort’s guilt is to basically engage in CT nuttery, so once you’ve acknowledged that, then you have to conclude that blatant efforts to sway the judgment in the case are questionable at best.

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:36:20pm

re: #224 MsJ

MsJoanne
@MsJoanne
Russians do. None of that legal eagle stuff they have to worry about.

But what US company is going to risk importing it and using it for American-made products? Is Trump going to mandate that every US made car contain 3% asbestos?

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:36:24pm

re: #294 Blind Frog Belly White

Funny, it’s almost like there’s something about her that makes her acceptable in a more subservient role, but not as a leader. Some characteristic of hers. If only we could figure out what that is.

Oh, well. I suppose we’ll never understand it.
/

It’s just “politics!”

…for the little lady.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:37:19pm

re: #298 stpaulbear

But what US company is going to risk importing it and using it for American-made products? Is Trump going to mandate that every US made car contain 3% asbestos?

Oh please don’t give that asshole any ideas.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:37:53pm

Hey all,

I spoke to Mom Anon. Her husband has made it through the initial crisis. He’s holding on. She’s holding on.

They will determine the extent of the damage as time progresses. It is still very bad, so please thoughts for her.

Hopefully she will be able to update us personally, very soon.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:38:37pm

re: #296 ObserverArt

Even record isn’t going away, more vinyl made now than 10 years ago. Damn kids! Back about 1990 you would have thought that was dust-binned.

And, the well to do gen Xer’s who like expensive audio equipment.

Expensive amp
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:38:55pm

re: #293 Eclectic Cyborg

Lol.

I took a college photography class from 2001-2003 and my professor was hardcore ANTI-digital photography.

Of course this was well before the days of DSLRs.

Back in The Good Old Days of Biotech, we all used the Polaroid MP4 cameras for taking pictures of DNA gels. Every lab had one. They were simple. They took black and white Polaroid pictures that took 30 seconds to develop and never faded. The cameras were pretty cheap, and the film worked out to a buck a shot.

Then they started pushing us to go with digital imagers. $13,000 for an imager. The first ones printed on thermal paper, which fades even in the dark.

Now you can’t even find the film for MP4s. Polaroid went under, but they stopped making it even before that. Fuji made it for a while, but then they gave up.

So, we got a fancy imager. The images can even be archived electronically. If it’s working. Half the time, my folks use their smart phones instead.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:38:57pm

re: #298 stpaulbear

But what US company is going to risk importing it and using it for American-made products? Is Trump going to mandate that every US made car contain 3% asbestos?

As long as it is kept as a insulating liner in the fresh air system!

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unproven innocence  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:39:07pm

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny how we still use words like “tapes” and “taped” when cassettes haven’t really been a thing for between 15 and 20 years now.

Not to mention sunrise, sunset.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:40:05pm

re: #255 MsJ

This is the first I’ve ever heard of that. What is it? Synthetic pot?

Yes. A guy with the initials JWH invented a bunch of synthetic cannibanoids, and some other people took his work and started making a drug that felt just like pot, except with more of an urge to redose. A cat and mouse game with legislators lead to the current nasty product,

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:41:50pm

re: #302 Colère Tueur de Lapin

And, the well to do gen Xer’s who like expensive audio equipment.

[Embedded content]

I wonder if there was a hipster wax-drum fad once they went out of fashion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:42:29pm

re: #301 Stanley Sea

Let us know about somewhere to donate if it gets to that point.

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fern01  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:42:46pm

Is the Judge in the Manafort trial a trump supporter. One of the latest exchanges with the prosecutors - basically comes down to “Don’t believe what I say”

The judge berated prosecutors again when he learned that the prosecution’s next witness — IRS agent Michael Welch — had been watching the trial from the gallery. My emphasis

Prosecutors asked the judge to allow Welch as an expert witness — meaning he, unlike other witnesses, would be allowed to offer his professional opinion to the jury. Assistant U.S. Attorney Uzo Asonye then revealed that Welch had been seated in the courtroom for the duration of the proceedings.

Ellis erupted, saying that he typically bars all witnesses — save the case agent — from observing and thought he had done so in this case.

“I want you to remember, don’t do that again. When I exclude witnesses, I mean everybody,” Ellis said. When Asonye pointed out that the judge had previously said the expert could stay in the courtroom, the judge snapped: “I don’t care what the transcript said; maybe I made a mistake. Don’t do it again.”

washingtonpost.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:43:34pm

re: #305 unproven innocence

Not to mention sunrise, sunset.

What do you have against that?

SUNRISE SUNSET

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:44:02pm

re: #307 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I wonder if there was a hipster wax-drum fad once they went out of fashion.

Or for 78s after the LP was introduced.

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gocart mozart  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:44:17pm
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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:45:40pm

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

The only valid word, recorded, has too many syllables.

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MsJ  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:45:57pm

re: #298 stpaulbear

But what US company is going to risk importing it and using it for American-made products? Is Trump going to mandate that every US made car contain 3% asbestos?

Never dismiss the abilities of human greed and dumbfuckery.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:46:11pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

(Charles Johnson re PJ Media)

I remember.

2007? - Back before Glenn lost his shit.

In the beginning, the PJ blog was a good and clean read.

You could click on a link, read the associated article and page-back to the PJ blog, and be back at the link you just clicked on.

The majority of the other blogs were ham fisted code messes that returned you back to the beginning of the blog when you paged-back after reading the link. This meant you have to scroll back down to where you left off reading the blog.

Did some digging and discovered Charles Johnson was PJ’s coding web master.

When Glenn started losing his shit, I followed up and checked out Little Green Footballs.

At that time LGF was still a little too partisan, but I checked back from time to time, and signed up in early 2011 during one of the open registrations.

Since I read LGF using an iPhone, the flash videos on LGF in 2009+ were a source of exasperation; so I consider the subsequent loss of Flash on LGF as a good thing.

Many thanks for the years of ideas, words, music, and videos.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:47:32pm

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

Or for 78s after the LP was introduced.

I know there were, and I assume still are, 78 collectors.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:49:19pm

re: #315 BeenHereAwhile

I started lurking in 2003 (?), signed up December 5, 2010. You bastards won’t let me leave.

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ObserverArt  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:49:19pm

Randy Credico…on Ari.I do not trust a damn thing he says. Tonight he is blurring legal issues of Julian Assange, saying no one knows if the Russians hacked anything…it is all speculation, blah, blah, blah.

“You know…look at the run-up lies to Iraq…Gulf of Tonkin…”

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Schweppes7  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:50:10pm

re: #309 fern01

He really does seem to be biased against the prosecutors. In addition to generally just being an asshole to prosecutors, he did something yesterday that I thought was truly egregious and could have an impact. When prosecutors solicited testimony from a witness about how Manafort closely kept track of his finances, Judge Ellis quipped in front of the jury something to the effect of clearly Manafort did not pay that close attention to it or he would have caught on to Gates embezzling extra money for himself. Comments like that by a judge in front of the jury could bias them by making them more likely to find that Manafort was unaware of these accounts. Regardless, the evidence seems so overwhelming that I would still be surprised if Manafort is not found guilty. Hopefully the judge does not pull any shenanigans if that occurs.

You know the anti-prosecution bias is strong when even a right wing hack like Andrew Napolitano noted it on fox news (see link below).

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:50:19pm

re: #317 Ace Rothstein

I started lurking in 2003 (?), signed up December 5, 2010. You bastards won’t let me leave.

You can check out anytime you like.

//

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:50:53pm

re: #317 Ace Rothstein

I started lurking in 2003 (?), signed up December 5, 2010. You bastards won’t let me leave.

NEVER!

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:51:27pm

re: #320 Targetpractice

You can check out anytime you like.

//

Never. In these dark times, this place is the only thing keeping me from drinking a bottle of Draino.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:51:31pm

The FBI arrested Collins just this morning and 5 more present and former GOP congress-crooks are already implicated.

Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) charged with insider trading, federal prosecutors announce

Before Wednesday’s indictment, Collins was already under scrutiny for his role in promoting Innate Immunotherapeutics, a small Australian companies that was developing a new therapy for multiple sclerosis. Collins served on the company’s board of directors and was its largest shareholder, according to the indictment.

In October, the Office of Congressional Ethics found “substantial reason to believe” that Collins violated federal law and House rules by meeting with government researchers in his congressional capacity allegedly to benefit the firm. The office also said that he shared private information about the firm to solicit investors among friends, family and other lawmakers.

Among those who invested in Innate were House Republicans, including Reps. Markwayne Mullin (Okla.), John Culberson (Tex.), Doug Lamborn (Colo.) and Billy Long (Mo.), as well as former congressman Tom Price of Georgia, who went on to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services before resigning under fire for his use of private air travel.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:51:49pm

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I know there were, and I assume still are, 78 collectors.

I imagine there’s a fair amount of music that was never released on LP, just as there are miles of film that won’t ever be digitized.

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Targetpractice  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:52:31pm

re: #319 Schweppes7

He really does seem to be biased against the prosecutors. In addition to generally just being an asshole to prosecutors, he did something yesterday that I thought was truly egregious and could have an impact. When prosecutors solicited testimony from a witness about how Manafort closely kept track of his finances, Judge Ellis quipped in front of the jury something to the effect of clearly Manafort did not pay that close attention to it or he would have caught on to Gates embezzling extra money for himself. Comments like that by a judge in front of the jury could bias them by making them more likely to find that Manafort was unaware of these accounts. Regardless, the evidence seems so overwhelming that I would still be surprised if Manafort is not found guilty. Hopefully the judge does not pull any shenanigans if that occurs.

You know the anti-prosecution bias is strong when even a right wing hack like ANdrew Napolitano noted it on fox news.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Another moment was when he actually chastised the defense for being slow to object to a question asked of a prosecution witness.

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Schweppes7  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:55:31pm

re: #323 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The entire indictment is worth reading. Their behavior was so blatant and I cannot believe they did so little to cover their tracks and lied to the FBI when confronted. I hope that they all end up in prison.

I know that it is a long shot (Collins won the district by 30 in 2016) but I just donated $25 to Collins’s opponent. He seems like a decent candidate and a likable guy. Maybe the combination of a blue wave, some extra money, and his opponent being arrested for being a corrupt crook will be enough to give him a shot! I am linking his website below which contains his broad positions and a link to donate if anyone else is interested.

votemcmurray.com

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stpaulbear  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:55:37pm

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I know there were, and I assume still are, 78 collectors.

Do Not Sell At Any Price: The Wild, Obsessive Hunt for the World’s Rarest 78rpm Records

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:59:25pm

re: #327 stpaulbear

Do Not Sell At Any Price: The Wild, Obsessive Hunt for the World’s Rarest 78rpm Records

$8.80 for the paperback new. $0.09 for it used. $12.99 on Kindle.

I feel like eBooks have not delivered on their promise due to capitalists extracting as much cash as they can from us.

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fern01  Aug 8, 2018 • 3:59:26pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

From your link, the WP still gives the president* the right to call Lemon a liar viz

Don Lemon, a black CNN anchor, has accused President Trump of telling him in 2011 that Lemon’s race made him incapable of unbiased reporting.

Now correctly written, that would read,

President Trump told Don Lemon in 2011 that Lemon’s race made him incapable of unbiased reporting

Lemon hasn’t “accused” the president*, Lemon has stated what the president said. Until the US media stops being bullied by trump into these apologetic reporting techniques, trump will continue to believe in his infallibility.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:04:28pm

re: #329 fern01

[…]

Lemon hasn’t “accused” the president*, Lemon has stated what the president said. Until the US media stops being bullied by trump into these apologetic reporting techniques, trump will continue to believe in his infallibility.

All they have to do to have Trump bully them is quote him. They keep leaving out the stupidest parts. Chickens. First one across that line makes the rest of them look like the slow chickens (or well-paid chickens) that they are.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:04:57pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:07:36pm

re: #331 Patricia Kayden

Musk is South African. He was born into the environment the alt-right wants to create here.

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Belafon  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:10:31pm

re: #328 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

$8.80 for the paperback new. $0.09 for it used. $12.99 on Kindle.

I feel like eBooks have not delivered on their promise due to capitalists extracting as much cash as they can from us.

Because of Apple, Amazon had to cede ebook pricing to the publishers, who set it outrageously because they know kindle readers will buy them.

334
BlueGrl21  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:12:04pm

re: #306 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yes. A guy with the initials JWH invented a bunch of synthetic cannibanoids, and some other people took his work and started making a drug that felt just like pot, except with more of an urge to redose. A cat and mouse game with legislators lead to the current nasty product,

My dumbass best friend got ahold of a bad batch. Woke up in the hospital after a “cardiac event.”

It’s seriously bad.

335
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:15:28pm

re: #334 BlueGrl21

My dumbass best friend got ahold of a bad batch. Woke up in the hospital after a “cardiac event.”

It’s seriously bad.

They lived though, so that’s cool.

I’ve consumed most of the JWH family - some in massive quantities, but you couldn’t pay me to use Spice, even when out of herb.

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fern01  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:19:02pm

re: #34 Belafon

From the Manfort trial yesterday:

The Judge, as well as attacking the prosecution seems to be giving evidence from the bench. I didn’t know it was the role of Judges to give evidence.

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lawhawk  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:21:16pm

re: #309 fern01

Is the Judge in the Manafort trial a trump supporter. One of the latest exchanges with the prosecutors - basically comes down to “Don’t believe what I say”

The judge berated prosecutors again when he learned that the prosecution’s next witness — IRS agent Michael Welch — had been watching the trial from the gallery. My emphasis

washingtonpost.com

I’m going to say no. What the judge is doing is making the case appeal proof. As popehat indicated in an oped the other day, judges hate getting their rulings overturned more than anything else, and will ride the prosecutors in cases where the prosecutors have slam dunk abilities because they want to make sure the case sticks.

Manafort will try on appeal to claim that X, Y, and Z were errors and should be reversed. But Ellis is showing that X, Y, and Z were properly handled and that he’s doing everything by the book.

In these kinds of cases, the prosecutors will get no deference from the judge because they already hold all the cards, and defense gets help because the judge knows that the defense is screwed.

Put plainly - there’s no connection between judges who ride the prosecution in a case and how they will eventually rule on the case.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:25:33pm

re: #337 lawhawk

I’m going to say no. What the judge is doing is making the case appeal proof. As popehat indicated in an oped the other day, judges hate getting their rulings overturned more than anything else, and will ride the prosecutors in cases where the prosecutors have slam dunk abilities because they want to make sure the case sticks.

Manafort will try on appeal to claim that X, Y, and Z were errors and should be reversed. But Ellis is showing that X, Y, and Z were properly handled and that he’s doing everything by the book.

In these kinds of cases, the prosecutors will get no deference from the judge because they already hold all the cards, and defense gets help because the judge knows that the defense is screwed.

Put plainly - there’s no connection between judges who ride the prosecution in a case and how they will eventually rule on the case.

That makes a lot of sense, but to the laymen, it’s awfully disconcerting.

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wrenchwench  Aug 8, 2018 • 4:26:49pm

re: #337 lawhawk

I’m going to say no. What the judge is doing is making the case appeal proof.

That’s what I was thinking, but I was afraid to look too optimistic by saying so. Now I can look smart like lawhawk!

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fern01  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:38:22pm

re: #337 lawhawk

Thanks for the feedback - but sometimes it doesn’t seem to work that way. I hope you are correct

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Charles Johnson  Aug 8, 2018 • 5:59:14pm

Erk. Twitter’s going to fix their Nazi problem by cracking down on “dehumanizing speech.”

What could go wrong?

Another bad solution for the wrong problem.


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