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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:18:21am
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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:21:10am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:22:42am

WITCH HUNT! Leave innosent Russia alone!

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:25:40am

Someone asked about the issue between ABL and the whole Pottery Barn Liberal nonsense. This is Amy.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:25:40am
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plansbandc  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:31:32am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

And educated. Muchly educated.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:31:40am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:32:24am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Botlike UserID and profile pic detected.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:32:27am
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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:33:01am

Well, here is a novel defense (Manafort):

Defense attorney Richard Westling asked the jury to question the motives behind the bank-fraud and conspiracy charges against Manafort. It wasn’t the banks that came to the government to report that they had been defrauded and none of the banks reported concerns with Manafort’s loan applications to regulators, Westling said.

“Nobody came forward to say we’re concerned about what we’re seeing here, not until the special counsel showed up and started asking questions” Westling said.

So the Nobody Complained About Our Fraud defense? Yeah, that’s novel.

This, however, is valid:

And why did the government rely on calling low-level bank employees instead of calling certain key players to testify, Westling questioned. Where was Steve Calk, the Federal Savings Bank CEO who prosecutors say approved a shaky loan in a quid pro quo for a Trump administration job? Or the other members of the loan committee with Federal Savings Bank who also signed off on lending Manafort $16 million?

“It’s for you to determine what that means,” Westling said.

Westling told the jury that the government didn’t have enough evidence to show that Manafort had intended to defraud banks when seeking loans and that there was no conspiracy because there was no proof of a co-conspirator. Though the government suggested Manafort’s business associate Rick Gates was a co-conspirator, Gates said in his testimony that he didn’t seek to defraud a bank, Westling said.

The government, Westling said, “failed to show an agreement to act collectively to defraud a bank.”

I am quite curious about Calk, as well.

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electrotek  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:34:39am

So Amy is done then, eh?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:38:36am

re: #4 MsJ

Someone asked about the issue between ABL and the whole Pottery Barn Liberal nonsense. This is Amy.

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“Pottery Barn progressives”
“Triple Meat Whataburger liberal”
“Tragedy Dry-Humping Whores”

Their failed attempts (but comical) to insult the Left can be directly linked to the fact they can no longer label the Left “Nazis” because it’s unequival the Nazis are siding with Donnie and the GOP.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:40:25am
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Belafon  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:40:31am

re: #12 Dr. Matt

“Pottery Barn progressives” was by someone defending Imani.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:42:24am
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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:43:42am

re: #13 Kragar

“You’re banned from Mar-A-Lago!”
“And what did you award the runner-up?”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:44:16am
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Charmingly Persistent  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:44:17am

re: #4 MsJ

Someone asked about the issue between ABL and the whole Pottery Barn Liberal nonsense. This is Amy.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:45:15am

Frenzied Commentary is Trump’s online persona.

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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:46:18am

re: #2 Kragar

Carlson was born white, very rich and privileged. That’s about it.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:46:32am

Scratch “online.”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:48:26am

Priceless

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:48:49am

Well, this seems like a big deal.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:50:36am

re: #22 Dr. Matt

“I was born here, I don’t need to learn the language.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:50:42am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:50:49am
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:51:17am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:53:25am

re: #25 The Vicious Babushka

“Erratic conduct and behavior” are reasons @realDonaldTrump is revoking ex @CIA director @JohnBrennan’s security clearance. Adds Brennan has conducted “frenzied commentary.”

AND WE’RE CHANGING THE LOCKS ON HIS OFFICE DOOR!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:53:54am
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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:54:45am
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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:55:47am

Thank you, reality-tv-monetizing media companies.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:58:02am
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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 11:59:14am

re: #15 The Vicious Babushka

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Mr. Thin Skin strikes again.

And I imagine not one Republican politician will stand up and say removing security clearance from past government Justice Department figures has never been done or needed. It is both unnecessary and petty and accomplishes nothing.

And that is why it is so Trump. It accomplishes nothing but shows him being a spiteful asshole.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:02:53pm

“Many more security clearances under review”, not including the man who met privately with Russian Intelligence in the Oval Office, or the man who met with Russian Intelligence in Trump Tower, or the man who let a recording device walk into the White House Situation Room.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:04:13pm

re: #30 Kragar

DJT has conducted frenzied governing and tweeting, mostly the latter, very little governing.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:04:27pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:06:44pm

re: #3 Dr. Matt

WITCH HUNT! Leave innosent Russia alone!

FBI NOT CREDIBLE! NEEDS PURGE!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:06:48pm

Someone on CNN said that Brennan tweeted about the yam last night.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:07:53pm
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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:07:58pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

I wish someone had asked SHS if Brennan had done something crazy like call a woman a dog.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:08:03pm

re: #30 Kragar

What’s the I Can’t Even level here? Extremely high I would think.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:08:09pm
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sagehen  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:08:21pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Mr. Thin Skin strikes again.

And I imagine not one Republican politician will stand up and say removing security clearance from past government Justice Department figures has never been done or needed. It is both unnecessary and petty and accomplishes nothing.

And that is why it is so Trump. It accomplishes nothing but shows him being a spiteful asshole.

What it will accomplish is whenever any of these people criticize Trump, his defenders will say “they don’t know anything because they don’t have security clearances, so you don’t have to take their views seriously.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:10:03pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Steve King is tweeting about “culture”. Must be a day ending in -day.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:11:54pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Recycled anti-Roma imagery from 2015:

“…Police have cleared hundreds of Roma people from a slum-like camp built on a disused rail line in north Paris.

More than 350 Roma people had lived in the camp on La Petite Ceinture since mid-2015. Activists said many left early ahead of the police action.”
skeptics.stackexchange.com

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:12:50pm

Also, how did France “import” the Roma people?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:14:01pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:14:58pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

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That photo is nearly 3 years old (see: dailymail.co.uk).

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

“axiomatic”

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:20:12pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Someone on CNN said that Brennan tweeted about the yam last night.

His only tweet on Aug. 14 (that I see):

Only 27K retweets. Might need some more. Keep a hand on your security clearance.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:21:05pm

re: #46 jaunte

Also, how did France “import” the Roma people?

And when are they going to impose necessary & winnable tariffs to protect the production of native Roma people?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:22:28pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

His only tweet on Aug. 14 (that I see):

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Only 27K retweets. Might need some more. Keep a hand on your security clearance.

Game Over Man, GAME OVER!

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:23:23pm

I see trump is doing everything in his power to ensure that we, the US, is not safe.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:23:59pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

Mr. Thin Skin strikes again.

And I imagine not one Republican politician will stand up and say removing security clearance from past government Justice Department figures has never been done or needed. It is both unnecessary and petty and accomplishes nothing.

And that is why it is so Trump. It accomplishes nothing but shows him being a spiteful asshole.

There’s a pretty good piece up at Talking Points Memo about how Trump has really declined; he used to be at least capable of humor, of a little self-deprecation now & again (remember his appearing in overalls to sing the theme song to Green Acres?).

These days? Nothing but snarling, savagery & sadism.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Sometimes he’ll just do a movie review or talk about one of his movie star friends. There is that thing we almost never see in him now - humor. True humor, as opposed to mere sarcasm or viciousness, always contains a measure of self-deprecation. Viciousness and attack have always been Trump’s native language. But these other modes were at least present. They’re gone now.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:27:24pm

re: #54 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

There’s a pretty good piece up at Talking Points Memo about how Trump has really declined; he used to be at least capable of humor, of a little self-deprecation now & again (remember his appearing in overalls to sing the theme song to Green Acres?).

These days? Nothing but snarling, savagery & sadism.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Cause 🇷🇺 is eating him alive.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:29:15pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

Cause 🇷🇺 is eating him alive.

He’s finding out that reality is nothing like reality TV. He hates his new(ish) job.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:29:22pm

re: #55 Stanley Sea

Cause 🇷🇺 is eating him alive.

There is no way he should get off easy due to mental decline. None of those traitorous bastards should.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:29:58pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

He’s finding out that reality is nothing like reality TV. He hates his new(ish) job.

I would say good except that he is fucking up the lives of millions.

I hope that fucker remains miserable for the rest of his life. (spit)

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:32:49pm

re: #58 MsJ

I would say good except that he is fucking up the lives of millions.

I hope that fucker remains miserable for the rest of his life. (spit)

Whatever gets him out the fastest is the means of removal I prefer. I don’t even care whether he gets punished if the result is a quicker removal.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:36:00pm

Uhhh … WTF? Pinterest?

The fucking dipshit Nazis are infesting the cozy little picture-based site where midwestern moms trade brownie recipes & shoe aspirations?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:38:02pm

re: #58 MsJ

I would say good except that he is fucking up the lives of millions.

I hope that fucker remains miserable for the rest of his life. (spit)

His final years may be spent in a sad fog, where he is confined to an institution, raging and screaming at imaginary enemies, balling his tiny hands into fists and windmilling them at the padded walls, unaware why he is dragged out in front of crowds and into courtrooms from time to time, where everybody frowns at him and nobody laughs at his racist jokes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:38:14pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Whatever gets him out the fastest is the means of removal I prefer. I don’t even care whether he gets punished if the result is a quicker removal.

He needs to be locked up. The alternative is that he goes ahead with setting up a propaganda channel for people who are too far gone for Fox, as was the plan when he accidentally won the election.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:39:17pm

re: #60 stpaulbear

Last night:

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Thank you. TV is still an influential medium. I’m out of touch all over.

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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:40:17pm

re: #38 Stanley Sea

Someone on CNN said that Brennan tweeted about the yam last night.

He was on MSNBC last evening too. Too much Brennan face time not enough Trump love fest. Brennan had to go.

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stpaulbear  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:42:35pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

Thank you. TV is still an influential medium. I’m out of touch all over.

I don’t even have a TV, but I’ve got the MSNBC news sites bookmarked so I can watch them a day later.

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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:42:46pm

re: #43 sagehen

What it will accomplish is whenever any of these people criticize Trump, his defenders will say “they don’t know anything because they don’t have security clearances, so you don’t have to take their views seriously.”

The time I listen to a Trump defender and take them seriously will be the first time.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:42:48pm

re: #60 stpaulbear

Last night:

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Looks very “frenzied” not calm and measured and generous like our Great MAGA POTUS.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:44:29pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

He was on MSNBC last evening too. Too much Brennan face time not enough Trump love fest. Brennan had to go.

Anybody with a security clearance, just like anyone who draws a breath in DJT’s America, needs to say something laudatory about The Yam daily or else face retribution.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:44:51pm

re: #66 stpaulbear

I don’t even have a TV, but I’ve got the MSNBC news sites bookmarked so I can watch them a day later.

You took away one of my excuses! Now I’ll have to come up with some more…

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:46:34pm

Silence the watchdogs, blind the sentries, shut off the lights.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:46:40pm

re: #10 MsJ

Why didn’t the defense call them?

The prosecutors didn’t need to call witnesses because they considered the case made without them.

It’s just the defense trying to claim that prosecutors didn’t make the case with nothing but chaff as proof. Deflecting and hoping the jury doesn’t see weight of evidence.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:47:57pm

re: #63 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He needs to be locked up. The alternative is that he goes ahead with setting up a propaganda channel for people who are too far gone for Fox, as was the plan when he accidentally won the election.

If he can be shut up (kept quiet) without being locked up, life itself could become a punishment. A decline due to dementia is no picnic, and that seems to be the ride he’s on.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:48:23pm

re: #72 jaunte

Silence the watchdogs, blind the sentries, shut off the lights.

Can’t Drain The Swamp without IG reports, this WH seems bewildered.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:49:15pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:53:06pm

re: #76 jaunte

Peter Daou

@peterdaou
CONSIDER THIS:

It would take only TWO Republican senators to bring this Trump train to a screeching halt.

Just TWO patriots to prevent this unmitigated disaster.

And not ONE has the courage or integrity to switch over and vote with Democrats.

What does that tell you?

It tells me the Republican Senators are a bunch of spineless wimps that are bent over for Trump and willing to let him do whatever he wants while in such a submissive position.

Big tough Mitch McConnell…pfft.

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stpaulbear  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:57:03pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

You took away one of my excuses! Now I’ll have to come up with some more…

I need to watch Rachel and Lawrence O’Donnell to keep me sane. I’m glad that their shows have a large audience. What they’re doing is important.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:57:08pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 12:59:06pm

re: #78 stpaulbear

I need to watch Rachel and Lawrence O’Donnell to keep me sane. I’m glad that their shows have a large audience. What they’re doing is important.

I’ll try that. I could use some more sanity. And NPR isn’t cutting it.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:00:19pm

re: #79 Kragar

Well it’s not like Flynn shouted Lock Her Up from a campaign stage.

Oh wait

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Amory Blaine  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:08:45pm

re: #67 freetoken

I like the cut of his jib:

That’s you. That’s your man-made nonsense. You are thieves. You are garbage. You will always be garbage. Remember that.

He knows you can’t be nice to these people.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:10:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:11:31pm
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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:13:48pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Whatever gets him out the fastest is the means of removal I prefer. I don’t even care whether he gets punished if the result is a quicker removal.

I get your feelings but there has got to be consequences. If not, next time we may not find a group of buffoons but people who could fuck us over worse than this set of asshats and douchebags.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:14:07pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:14:09pm

re: #59 wrenchwench

Whatever gets him out the fastest is the means of removal I prefer. I don’t even care whether he gets punished if the result is a quicker removal.

In all likelihood Trump will be President until January 2021. Impeachment or the 25th Amendment would require Republican support, and the GOP is wholly Trump’s party now; Republicans won’t dare enrage the base by voting to remove him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:14:39pm

re: #32 Kragar

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President Manger Merde hasn’t added Diamond and Silk as senior staffers yet?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:15:27pm

re: #85 MsJ

I get your feelings but there has got to be consequences. If not, next time we may not find a group of buffoons but people who could fuck us over worse than this set of asshats and douchebags.

The GOP pretty much sealed our fate when there were no consequences for Nixon or Reagan. They will do everything they can to protect DJT as well, because conservatism is about conserving power.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:16:11pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

In all likelihood Trump will be President until January 2021. Impeachment or the 25th Amendment would require Republican support, and the GOP is wholly Trump’s party now; Republicans won’t dare enrage the base by voting to remove him.

Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

Fox News & the right-wing echo chamber is the true threat.

Until we can figure out how to take their fangs out of the brains of our fellow Americans, they will continue to pump poison into their heads, turning ordinary people into raging loons.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:16:23pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

In all likelihood Trump will be President until January 2021. Impeachment or the 25th Amendment would require Republican support, and the GOP is wholly Trump’s party now; Republicans won’t dare enrage the base by voting to remove him.

Good midterms won’t make enough of a difference to make Republican support unnecessary?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:18:12pm

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

The GOP pretty much sealed our fate when there were no consequences for Nixon or Reagan. They will do everything they can to protect DJT as well, because conservatism is about conserving power.

Again - there are no consequences for things like the Iraq War, the 2008 Financial Meltdown, etc., because Fox et al. continue to brainwash 30% of America with “Look over there! Squirrel!” and constant fear-mongering.

We will not have peace until the Fairness Doctrine that Reagan killed in 1987 is reinstated, and Hannity, Rush, Ingraham, Steele & Alex Jones are banned from the airwaves.

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BigPapa  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:18:36pm

You gotta be shittin me, these people:

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:19:04pm

re: #73 lawhawk

Why didn’t the defense call them?

The prosecutors didn’t need to call witnesses because they considered the case made without them.

It’s just the defense trying to claim that prosecutors didn’t make the case with nothing but chaff as proof. Deflecting and hoping the jury doesn’t see weight of evidence.

I realize this but I have to say, I wonder what they are going to be doing with Calk. Will he be part of future prosecutions? (And if not, WHY NOT!?) That that pig still has a job is infuriating.

Lock all these motherfuckers up. All of them.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:19:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:19:37pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Good midterms won’t make enough of a difference to make Republican support unnecessary?

Impeachment in the Senate requires a two-thirds majority of the Senators. That would be an awful high bar to clear in the midterms.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:21:12pm

re: #93 BigPapa

You gotta be shittin me, these people:

[Phyllis Schlafly]

She’s doing it from the grave!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:21:37pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

In all likelihood Trump will be President until January 2021. Impeachment or the 25th Amendment would require Republican support, and the GOP is wholly Trump’s party now; Republicans won’t dare enrage the base by voting to remove him.

If there is a strong mid-term Democratic victory, and not just at the Federal level but at the state level as well, the GOP may have an epiphany - namely, they now find themselves shackled to the corpse of Trump’s presidency.

If or when the GOP realizes that Trump is the carcass of a decaying albatross strung across their necks, self-preservation will kick in. Republicans love power more than anything else in this world…..and they will do anything to maintain their power. If that means kicking Trump to the curb - then so be it.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:22:02pm
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wheat-dogg  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:22:08pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

I would still visit Paris.

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Interesting Times  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:22:08pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

Impeachment in the Senate requires a two-thirds majority of the Senators. That would be an awful high bar to clear in the midterms.

Not even mathematically possible, given that only 8 GOPer seats are up for reelection :(

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:24:50pm
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BigPapa  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:26:38pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

She’s doing it from the grave!

Prove she’s not undead. Betcha can’t.
(late 50’s scary movie sound)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:27:15pm

re: #102 Kragar

I despise Trump and his enablers. I would wear revocation of my security clearance proudly. (That said, I’m pretty much a nobody so I am not a threat to conservative politicians.)

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stpaulbear  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:27:30pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

Impeachment in the Senate requires a two-thirds majority of the Senators. That would be an awful high bar to clear in the midterms.

A Dem majority in the house can mean investigations and legislation that make things so rough for Trump in his 3rd year that he may decide to quit the job (heck, leave the country) before his term is over. That’s my personal slim glimmer of hope…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:28:21pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Good midterms won’t make enough of a difference to make Republican support unnecessary?

No matter how good the midterms are, the Democrats won’t get 67 seats in the Senate, or even close enough that a couple of rouge GOP Senators could get them over the top. To remove Trump as President would require a large number of Republicans to abandon him, and that just isn’t going to happen.

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JordanRules  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:30:46pm

re: #105 stpaulbear

A Dem majority in the house can mean investigations and legislation that make things so rough for Trump in his 3rd year that he may decide to quit the job (heck, leave the country) before his term is over. That’s my personal slim glimmer of hope…

He’d have to leave the country. The Presidency is protecting him from lots of legal ramifications so resignation seems extremely doubtful. Plus, the grift is still good.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:30:56pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:31:19pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

If there is a strong mid-term Democratic victory, and not just at the Federal level but at the state level as well, the GOP may have an epiphany - namely, they now find themselves shackled to the corpse of Trump’s presidency.

If or when the GOP realizes that Trump is the carcass of a decaying albatross strung across their necks, self-preservation will kick in. Republicans love power more than anything else in this world…..and they will do anything to maintain their power. If that means kicking Trump to the curb - then so be it.

Wish I could agree. But their power base, GOP voters, belong heart and soul to Trump. Voting to remove Trump would be career suicide for any Republican.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:32:20pm

re: #103 BigPapa

Prove she’s not undead. Betcha can’t.
(late 50’s scary movie sound)

The bitterest political dispute I had with my mother was back in the 70s. She took the position that women should be voted for, no matter what their political positions were, in the interest of showing that women can successfully serve in office. Even if it were Phyllis Schlafley. I said a man with more agreeable politics would be the better vote.

All the other disputes have been personal.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:33:50pm

Everything about this picture is epic. Before it was NASA, it was NACA, the National Advisory Council for Aeronautics. This is NACA test pilot George Cooper with an F-100 in about 1956. He was co-inventor of the Cooper-Harper Scale for quantifying the handling qualities of aircraft. Amazingly for a test pilot of that era, Mr. Cooper lived to be 100 years old, dying in 2016.

Facebook Post

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wheat-dogg  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:34:01pm

Chinese yuan is close to 7 to the US dollar. Not good for me.

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BigPapa  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:35:36pm

re: #110 wrenchwench

The bitterest political dispute I had with my mother was back in the 70s. She took the position that women should be voted for, no matter what their political positions were, in the interest of showing that women can successfully serve in office. Even if it were Phyllis Schlafley. I said a man with more agreeable politics would be the better vote.

All the other disputes have been personal.

Wow, even Schlafley. Sorta like Amy Siskind’s defense in her dustup with Imani Gandy - Amy said she supported Palin and Bachmann because they were women.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:38:21pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

She’s doing it from the grave!

Vampires never die.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:39:19pm

re: #100 wheat-dogg

I would still visit Paris.

I am going to Paris next year. Twice. 5 days up front and 2 days before we return. Three weeks in France in total.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:39:42pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:40:14pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

In all likelihood Trump will be President until January 2021. Impeachment or the 25th Amendment would require Republican support, and the GOP is wholly Trump’s party now; Republicans won’t dare enrage the base by voting to remove him.

It is political suicide.

The Republicans in office have to be doing studies based on polling as to where their futures are heading.

If reports are true, that base is getting smaller and smaller. There are now way more people identifying as independents and libertarians. Probably more Democrats now from crossovers too.

So what the hell are they doing catering to a bunch of people that might not be strong enough to effectively get them reelected?

I know they may be counting on gerrymandered districts. But last Tuesday Ohio D12 showed that isn’t working either. Ohio D12 is as gerrymandered as it can get and Trump has changed it from a plus 36 points to 1.

Not to take away from Danny O’Connor’s fine run. I hope he wins in November. However, if there was another candidate with a little more experience and name recognition they might have won that election.

The Republicans need to get their own back involved and that will only come by showing they can stand up to Trump. That base is still Republican. Sure they are crazy mad about Trump now, but they will still vote for Republicans in the future.

I guess most of them are ready to leave Washington or something, because to me they don’t seem to be very worried about keeping their party together for a future.

Trump isn’t going to accomplish that. He’s destroying it like he is messing everything up.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:41:42pm

re: #106 Big Beautiful Door

No matter how good the midterms are, the Democrats won’t get 67 seats in the Senate, or even close enough that a couple of rouge GOP Senators could get them over the top. To remove Trump as President would require a large number of Republicans to abandon him, and that just isn’t going to happen.

They should all be at least rouge at this point, if not crimson. As to your point, I have to agree — but it has happened before that people have had unexpected attacks of decency. It would only take 18…

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wheat-dogg  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:42:46pm

re: #115 MsJ

I am going to Paris next year. Twice. 5 days up front and 2 days before we return. Three weeks in France in total.

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that Paris is the #1 destination in Europe for Chinese tourists, so airfares from Beijing are surprisingly cheap. I haz planz.

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electrotek  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:43:12pm

re: #119 wheat-dogg

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that Paris is the #1 destination in Europe for Chinese tourists, so airfares from Beijing are surprisingly cheap. I haz planz.

I wonder why is that the case.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:44:28pm

I’m going on a Mediterranean cruise (Greek antiquities!) in September.

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BigPapa  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:45:27pm

I strongly believe there should be more women in politics. Given an equivalence between a man and woman I might just edge to the woman. But if she’s a wingnut, hell no.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:47:17pm

re: #121 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’m going on a Mediterranean cruise (Greek antiquities!) in September.

I did a land version in college. Greece, Turkey, and Sicily. I remember Ephesus as being a favorite, but it may have been the nice weather that day. I was there in January.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:48:40pm

re: #117 ObserverArt

I guess most of them are ready to leave Washington or something, because to me they don’t seem to be very worried about keeping their party together for a future.

Or there is a fix in (vote suppression, hacking) to ensure enough of them win…see Roharbacher.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:50:53pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:51:33pm

re: #124 MsJ

Or there is a fix in (vote suppression, hacking) to ensure enough of them win…see Roharbacher.

I’d like to see him go to jail. Quick removal is less critical.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:51:42pm

Amazing not one person in the WH press office thought to change the date on that statement.

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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:53:22pm

re: #85 MsJ

I get your feelings but there has got to be consequences. If not, next time we may not find a group of buffoons but people who could fuck us over worse than this set of asshats and douchebags.

These guys are doing a pretty good job of it already.

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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:54:51pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

I’d like to see him go to jail. Quick removal is less critical.

Never going to happen. I think a nice stroke that leaves him unable to speak and unable to control his bodily functions would be good.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:55:01pm

Hmmm… my twitter follower count just took a dip. Methinks a bunch of bots just got whacked.

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lawhawk  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:56:08pm
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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:57:01pm

re: #130 lawhawk

Hmmm… my twitter follower count just took a dip. Methinks a bunch of bots just got whacked.

Same

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:57:05pm

re: #129 Skip Intro

Never going to happen. I think a nice stroke that leaves him unable to speak and unable to control his bodily functions would be good.

I wouldn’t wish that (him) on anyone in the human care-taking professions.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 15, 2018 • 1:57:43pm

re: #118 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

They should all be at least rouge at this point, if not crimson. As to your point, I have to agree — but it has happened before that people have had unexpected attacks of decency. It would only take 18…

I wish I could believe that there were any Republicans left in Washington capable of decency.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:00:04pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:00:22pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

I wouldn’t wish that (him) on anyone in the human care-taking professions.

My hope is that he’s specified in his will that his family has to personally take care of him if that ever happens or get cut out.

I can dream.

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unproven innocence  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:00:36pm

re: #130 lawhawk

Hmmm… my twitter follower count just took a dip. Methinks a bunch of bots just got whacked.

Could be just a one week timeout. Twitter values numbers.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:00:46pm

re: #119 wheat-dogg

I discovered a couple of weeks ago that Paris is the #1 destination in Europe for Chinese tourists, so airfares from Beijing are surprisingly cheap. I haz planz.

We are both very excited. A day in London (assuming the flight is on time, we have 8 hours to tour London on the hop-on-hop-off without hopping off), then our flight to Paris. Several days in Paris, TGV to Lyon, three days there. A river cruise to Avignon then 4 days there before returning on the TGV to Paris for two days before we come home.

It really is going to be the vacation of a lifetime since we’re both getting older and will likely not be able to do another like it. Future vacas will likely be within North America.

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electrotek  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:01:32pm

Trumpism infecting Sweden here

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:01:54pm

re: #128 Skip Intro

These guys are doing a pretty good job of it already.

Now imagine if they were even remotely intelligent. 100x worse. And yes, it is absolutely horrible now.

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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:02:50pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:03:18pm

re: #134 Big Beautiful Door

I wish I could believe that there were any Republicans left in Washington capable of decency.

I’m not going that far. They might come to think getting rid of DT is in their long-term interest. After all, a serious recession would hit them (and their donors) too.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:03:55pm

Stunning that this bloated thumb is 20 years younger than me.

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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:04:09pm

re: #140 MsJ

Now imagine if they were even remotely intelligent. 100x worse. And yes, it is absolutely horrible now.

If they hold Congress it will get 100x worse in the next two years. There will be absolutely nothing to stop them.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:04:20pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

I wouldn’t wish that (him) on anyone in the human care-taking professions.

If he doesn’t die quickly, he’s gong to make some nurses really miserable.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:05:05pm

re: #130 lawhawk

Hmmm… my twitter follower count just took a dip. Methinks a bunch of bots just got whacked.

I lost maybe 10 followers. Of course, I am still in timeout so who knows.

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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:05:15pm

re: #143 jaunte

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Stunning that this bloated thumb is 20 years younger than me.

He must self administer all the quack shit he sells.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:05:32pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:05:44pm

re: #122 BigPapa

I strongly believe there should be more women in politics. Given an equivalence between a man and woman I might just edge to the woman. But if she’s a wingnut, hell no.

Yep, in the Democratic primaries, I voted for a woman for every office I could.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:05:53pm

re: #134 Big Beautiful Door

I wish I could believe that there were any Republicans left in Washington capable of decency.

There aren’t. None.

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Kragar  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:06:03pm

re: #146 MsJ

I lost maybe 10 followers. Of course, I am still in timeout so who knows.

I think maybe 15 here. Wait till the RWNJs start screaming the lost half of theirs.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:06:45pm

re: #120 electrotek

I wonder why is that the case.

I’m not sure, but I’ve noticed nearly every one of my students knows something about Paris: the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Versailles. Perhaps stuff they learned in school. Even older people want to see Paris. Package tours are a big thing for older Chinese.

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electrotek  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:07:48pm

re: #152 wheat-dogg

I’m not sure, but I’ve noticed nearly every one of my students knows something about Paris: the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Versailles. Perhaps stuff they learned in school. Even older people want to see Paris. Package tours are a big thing for older Chinese.

Suppose Shanghai has ceased to be the Paris of the East in recent decades, which leaves them no choice but to make the trek to Paris eh?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:07:50pm
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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:09:02pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Really looking forward to the Flat (Alt) Earth News.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:09:28pm

SPHEREIST ECHO CHAMBER

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:09:38pm
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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:10:41pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:11:17pm

re: #157 MsJ

Why do tech billionaires hate the US so much?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:11:20pm

re: #151 Kragar

I think maybe 15 here. Wait till the RWNJs start screaming the lost half of theirs.

I don’t seem to be missing any. My priest never molested me, and bots won’t follow me. This is not good for my self-esteem.

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MsJ  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:11:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:11:27pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:12:11pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

Why do tech billionaires hate the US so much?

Maybe because we expect them to pay their fair share toward the society that makes them wealthy.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:12:30pm

re: #159 Skip Intro

Greed (taxes).

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:12:50pm

re: #130 lawhawk

Maybe some still-fans of Amy Siskind…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:13:56pm
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lizardofid  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:16:34pm

re: #133 wrenchwench

I wouldn’t wish that (him) on anyone in the human care-taking professions.

Don’t think Ivanka would step up?

: )

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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:21:32pm

Aww crap…local news just mentioned Trump is coming to Columbus again on August 24th for a $250 a plate Republican State Dinner at the Columbus Convention Center.

That’s twice in a few weeks. And we are not in the real November election fights yet. He’ll probably have to come back to support Mike DeWine for the governor’s race and try to get Republican stiff Congressman Jim Renacci in the race against Sherrod Brown for Senate.

Right now Brown is somewhere north of 15 points ahead. Richard Cordray is in pretty much a tie with DeWine with an average of 1.5 points ahead.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:22:08pm

re: #167 lizardofid

Don’t think Ivanka would step up?

: )

She step right up to the largest pile of cash. She’s a Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:22:33pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a shame that D.C. couldn’t demand full or partial reimbursement from Kessler and ilk for the expense of hosting their ridiculous Nazi rally.

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electrotek  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:25:10pm

Why can’t Fox just mock the dumbass who tried to ram Parliament but ended up hitting a bunch of barriers as a failure in life?

Instead they want to parade him as someone who was successful and determine.

I mean dammit, if they’re going to be strong against terrorism, at least mock the dipshit who couldn’t even do one thing he tried to do.

Why can’t we mock and laugh at these failed rejects?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:25:15pm

re: #166 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I don’t understand Jack’s comment. Hate speech and threats of violence (whether from the left or the right or the neutral) shouldn’t be given a platform period. There’s nothing subjective about that and it’s a fair standard to uphold.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:25:52pm

re: #172 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand Jack’s comment. Hate speech and threats of violence (whether from the left or the right or the neutral) shouldn’t be given a platform period. There’s nothing subjective about that and it’s a fair standard to uphold.

He’s dodging.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:27:15pm

re: #170 Patricia Kayden

It’s a shame that D.C. couldn’t demand full or partial reimbursement from Kessler and ilk for the expense of hosting their ridiculous Nazi rally.

Most of the expense will be associated with the counter-protest. You don’t spend that kind of money policing thirty losers.

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freetoken  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:28:08pm

Twitter exists to get you to tweet.

That is all Jack cares about.

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wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:30:33pm

re: #175 freetoken

Twitter exists to get you to tweet.

That is all Jack cares about.

When you try not to piss off anyone, you piss off everyone.

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freetoken  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:32:52pm

re: #176 wrenchwench

When you try not to piss off anyone, you piss off everyone.

And then they tweet about it… and Jack smiles.

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Alephnaught  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:33:10pm

Every time I see a RWNJ interact on social media these days, I think of this video clip. The RWNJ is on the the left in this clip and I’m on the right.

Young Ones Bambi Train Scene

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ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:34:33pm

re: #172 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand Jack’s comment. Hate speech and threats of violence (whether from the left or the right or the neutral) shouldn’t be given a platform period. There’s nothing subjective about that and it’s a fair standard to uphold.

I think he is trying to split a very fine hair and say there is a difference is political commentary and regular user’s commentary.

It’s the old “you know how politicians can be” excuse. It is saying nothing Jones says should be judged as the same as any regular member.

In a way it is another blurring of fact and fiction like we’ve seen over the last year-and-a-half with alternate facts.

Twitter Jack doesn’t seem to want to address what Jones’s BS can cause. He seems to be saying people will know the difference and not react in any bad way with a political threat as they would with other user’s threats.

Or, something. To me they are working to justify Jones with a ton of effort.

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jaunte  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:38:56pm
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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:43:29pm

re: #138 MsJ

We are both very excited. A day in London (assuming the flight is on time, we have 8 hours to tour London on the hop-on-hop-off without hopping off), then our flight to Paris. Several days in Paris, TGV to Lyon, three days there. A river cruise to Avignon then 4 days there before returning on the TGV to Paris for two days before we come home.

It really is going to be the vacation of a lifetime since we’re both getting older and will likely not be able to do another like it. Future vacas will likely be within North America.

Oh, great! We did London in under 8 hours once because of a layover, and my wife had a cousin living there with a MiniCooper. A great time. Do the big Ferris wheel!

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:44:00pm

re: #121 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’m going on a Mediterranean cruise (Greek antiquities!) in September.

Have fun!

re: #123 wrenchwench

I did a land version in college. Greece, Turkey, and Sicily. I remember Ephesus as being a favorite, but it may have been the nice weather that day. I was there in January.

I did a cruise version of the same places you went, Ms. Wench. Haze Grey Cruise Lines.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:45:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:45:17pm

re: #172 Patricia Kayden

I don’t understand Jack’s comment. Hate speech and threats of violence (whether from the left or the right or the neutral) shouldn’t be given a platform period. There’s nothing subjective about that and it’s a fair standard to uphold.

He is a free speech absolutist, arguing that bad speech should be countered with better speech (and other people should do it not him). He hasn’t heard of Karl Popper.

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Jay C  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:49:58pm

re: #138 MsJ

We are both very excited. A day in London (assuming the flight is on time, we have 8 hours to tour London on the hop-on-hop-off without hopping off), then our flight to Paris. Several days in Paris, TGV to Lyon, three days there. A river cruise to Avignon then 4 days there before returning on the TGV to Paris for two days before we come home.

It really is going to be the vacation of a lifetime since we’re both getting older and will likely not be able to do another like it. Future vacas will likely be within North America.

Definitely will second visiting Avignon: amazing history, and it sits in the middle of some of the most scenic bits of France 🇫🇷. Try to see Carcassonne if you can.

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stpaulbear  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:50:36pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:56:31pm
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bratwurst  Aug 15, 2018 • 2:59:43pm

It’s hard to imagine something more likely to get me off of Twitter than promoting white nationalism in my time line as an “alternative” viewpoint.

While I certainly left to the left, I am 100% sure I get the most worthwhile posts from the minority of conservatives who are not ok with the idea of giving up American sovereignty in exchange for rich people reducing their taxes and poor people losing their health care right now.

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sagehen  Aug 15, 2018 • 3:07:40pm

re: #115 MsJ

I am going to Paris next year. Twice. 5 days up front and 2 days before we return. Three weeks in France in total.

That’s your cover story, anyway.

We won’t be at all surprised if once you get there you ask for asylum and never come back.


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