The Bob Cesca Show: RESPECT

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

RESPECT — NSFW; David ‘TRex’ Ferguson from The TRex Report podcast is here; We remember Aretha Franklin’s life and music; Trump says Aretha worked for him; Trump’s Enemies List; Trump asked Sessions to arrest Omarosa; Georgia Republicans eliminating polling places in a big African American county; Trump’s NDAs; Mel Gibson and torture porn; Huge turnout in this week’s primaries; Russians successfully interfered to help Dana Rohrbacher win; and so much more.

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551 comments

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:51:53pm

respect must be earned but it does not cost a lot to give

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:52:42pm

Trump thought Franklin worked for him. Fuck you, dude.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:54:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:55:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:56:56pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:58:17pm

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TedStriker  Aug 16, 2018 • 3:58:18pm

re: #2 Ace Rothstein

Trump thought Franklin worked for him. Fuck you, dude.

When I read that quote, I was all like:

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:00:13pm

There are so many great performances out there spanning decades.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:02:31pm

re: #6 Ace Rothstein

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Tan suit?

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:04:18pm

re: #9 b.d.

Tan suit?

Yes.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:04:38pm

This week.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:05:41pm

re: #6 Ace Rothstein

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Does it have Dijon mustard on its breath, too?

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TedStriker  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:07:06pm

re: #11 Ace Rothstein

This week.

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Catula.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:09:19pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:10:23pm

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Does it have Dijon mustard on its breath, too?

Yes. With sleeveless dresses, Mao Christmas ornaments, and whitey tapes.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:10:41pm

re: #9 b.d.

Tan suit?

Mitch really does complete the circle of miserable republican leaders.

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EPR-radar  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:11:09pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

Of course not. How can a Republican guy in Congress express his conjugal feelings except through domestic violence?

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:11:21pm

re: #9 b.d.

Tan suit?

And velcro shoes lol.

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ObserverArt  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:11:53pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

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Grrrrr.

The Republican Party is an enemy of The United States.

Anyone voting for a Republican right now is aiding and abetting an enemy.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:12:34pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

Why does it expire?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:15:07pm

re: #11 Ace Rothstein

This week.

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Hey, at least it’s Friday.

What?
Seriously?
Son of a bitch!

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:15:58pm

re: #6 Ace Rothstein

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That suit looked SO much better on Obama….
F what Republicans thought….

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:16:40pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:16:58pm

re: #20 Belafon

Why does it expire?

Republicans.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:17:10pm
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Jay C  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:20:50pm

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

Sorry, Rachel: under normal circumstances this would cast - at the very least - a serious cloud on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination chances: but in the 115th Congress, under a Trump Administration, and the Senate controlled by Mitch McConnell?
*Shrugs* the best likely response…..

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wrenchwench  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:22:00pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

[Trailer park fights]

Manufactured home development fights, please.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:23:37pm

re: #26 Jay C

Maybe it will be enough to keep Manchin and Heitkamp from jumping ship? Hopefully.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:26:51pm

re: #3 JordanRules

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So much I’m getting from the tributes is that beyond her being preternationally talented, but she was BOSS LADY & private as shit.

Respect.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:26:58pm

Evening Lizardim.

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MsJ  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:29:40pm

re: #25 Ace Rothstein

That’s the funniest goddamned story I’ve read in a long time.

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EPR-radar  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:31:03pm

re: #28 Patricia Kayden

Maybe it will be enough to keep Manchin and Heitkamp from jumping ship? Hopefully.

The best we can hope for realistically is a strict party line vote on the Kavanaugh nomination. This piece of crap will be dispensing injustice from a SCOTUS seat for decades, and it would be really fucking helpful if Democrats could say “none of us voted for this piece of shit”.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:31:18pm

This guy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:31:30pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:32:45pm

re: #26 Jay C

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Sorry, Rachel: under normal circumstances this would cast - at the very least - a serious cloud on Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination chances: but in the 115th Congress, under a Trump Administration, and the Senate controlled by Mitch McConnell?
*Shrugs* the best likely response…..

I expect the response to be (at best) for the “moderates” to express “concern” about this revelation…before saying they’re willing to “reserve judgment” until they hear Kavanaugh’s lie…er, “explanation.”

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Targetpractice  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:34:22pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

This guy

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“Loyalty to his country”? Should we point out the off-shoring, the “bone spurs,” or his regular embrasure of foreign dictators as he attacks our intelligence services by suggesting they’ve been fooled into believing a “hoax”?

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EPR-radar  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:40:05pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

That Horowitz clown has the True Zeal for Trumpholstering.

Imagine “loyal to a fault” as applied to Trump, the most egocentric and narcissistic major politician in US history.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:40:12pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:40:22pm

here he goes:

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:41:51pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cutting back on turkey?

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:41:58pm

re: #37 EPR-radar

That Horowitz clown has the True Zeal for Trumpholstering.

Imagine “loyal to a fault” as applied to Trump, the most egocentric and narcissistic major politician in US history.

And of course, the gratuitous slur on Obama… who I guess (in Horowitz’s estimation) didn’t love his country enough to sell it out to the Russians for loans….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:45:01pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

Cutting back on turkey?

‘Sokay. We’ve got some sliced ham and roast beef in the lunchmeat drawer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:45:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:45:49pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:46:59pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

So much I’m getting from the tributes is that beyond her being preternationally talented, but she was BOSS LADY & private as shit.

Respect.

The father of one of my good friends in Detroit owns a specialty clothing shop - a beloved, and uniquely Detroit spot that sells furs, church hats, gator shoes and matching suits etc. He used to take racks of stuff to her house so she could shop in private. He sold her the coat in that pic Pete Souza posted from the 2015 Gospel performance at the White House.

My friend has some great stories like her 70th Birthday party where she had ditched her shoes and was greeting guests in barefeet with her glorious ball gown. My friends Mom accidentally stepped on her feet while going in for the hug, then again when they were talking later on. After that, her Mom said Aretha damn near ran away when she saw her coming. LOL

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:47:52pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is one of my favorite things!
I love Aretha and Carole so much.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:48:19pm

re: #40 Ace Rothstein

Cutting back on turkey?

At least he didn’t say we were Cold Turkey

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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:50:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:51:02pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Must feel the walls closing in….

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:51:05pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

This guy

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Horowitz needs to be thrown in a rubber room.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:51:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:52:17pm

re: #23 Patricia Kayden

Well, that might explain why Chuck Grassley was trying to hide most of the documents from examination by the full Senate.

That would be the same Chuck Grassley who spiked Merrick Garland’s nomination, after saying previously that President Obama would never nominate a moderate like Merrick Garland, who he could support.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:54:59pm

re: #41 Jay C

And of course, the gratuitous slur on Obama… who I guess (in Horowitz’s estimation) didn’t love his country enough to sell it out to the Russians for loans….

Trump is literally a Russian puppet and yet idiots on the Right claim that he was “loyal” to the U.S. Yeah, right.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:55:30pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

It’s so unusual to have snow in Australia they built a ski lift there for that one in a hundred year snowstorm.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:56:15pm

I guess this is a good thing.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:56:55pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

I guess this is a good thing.

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Meh.

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MsJ  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:57:27pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

I guess this is a good thing.

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Non binding and hence meaningless.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:57:38pm

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MY BULLSHIT COMPANY PAID THE QUEEN TO PERFORM. SHE MADE BANK OFF OF YOUR SORRY ASS.

He’s just bile.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:57:54pm

so full of shite…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 16, 2018 • 4:59:45pm

Aretha’s cover of “Let It Be.” Sublime.

Let It Be By Aretha Franklin

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:00:16pm
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Bubblehead II  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:01:50pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:02:03pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:03:21pm

re: #62 Bubblehead II

How are you doing, bro?

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:03:27pm

re: #60 Big Beautiful Door

Aretha’s cover of “Let It Be.” Sublime.

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Whew. That one got me emotional. Sublime indeed. Will be on repeat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:04:01pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:05:18pm

According to the right…

Robert E. Lee, like all the other Confederates, was only fighting for States Rights, not to preserve slavery. And Lincoln and the Union were fighting to impose a strong Federal government on them and run roughshod over their Constitutional rights.

Also…

The Confederates were all Democrats, and the Union were Republicans.

So…

The Democrats were only fighting for States Rights, not to preserve slavery. And the Republicans were fighting to impose a strong Federal government on them and run roughshod over their Constitutional rights.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:06:28pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It was horrible optics before midterms as those budgetary numbers kept being reported.
Interested to see how they spin it and if it is indeed postponed or cancelled.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:07:23pm
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:07:48pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

I guess this is a good thing.

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It already says this in the document our country finally adopted as the law of the land.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:08:11pm

Well, when they all look the same to you… .

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:08:51pm

re: #70 Eventual Carrion

It already says this in the document our country finally adopted as the law of the land.

The fact that they felt the need to do this speaks volumes.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:09:08pm

re: #67 Blind Frog Belly White

According to the right…

Robert E. Lee, like all the other Confederates, was only fighting for States Rights, not to preserve slavery. And Lincoln and the Union were fighting to impose a strong Federal government on them and run roughshod over their Constitutional rights.

Also…

The Confederates were all Democrats, and the Union were Republicans.

So…

The Democrats were only fighting for States Rights, not to preserve slavery. And the Republicans were fighting to impose a strong Federal government on them and run roughshod over their Constitutional rights.

Please quit trying to make sense, it will drive you mad.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:09:08pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Well, when they all look the same to you… .

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Was going to be my exact same comment. Get out of my head, you.

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MsJ  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:09:49pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Well, when they all look the same to you… .

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Is it true or is it the Onion?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:10:06pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Well, when they all look the same to you… .

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Its an Onion article, so I assume Fox News didn’t actually make this mistake.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:10:27pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Well, when they all look the same to you… .

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Not convinced at all that FoxNews did it by mistake

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:10:51pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:11:26pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Its an Onion article, so I assume Fox News didn’t actually make this mistake.

The fact that we took it seriously says it all.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:11:38pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Its an Onion article, so I assume Fox News didn’t actually make this mistake.

No, it really happened.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:12:10pm
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:12:30pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Its an Onion article, so I assume Fox News didn’t actually make this mistake.

huffingtonpost.com

Fox News Remembers Aretha Franklin With Photo Of Patti LaBelle

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:12:47pm

re: #68 JordanRules

It was horrible optics before midterms as those budgetary numbers kept being reported.
Interested to see how they spin it and if it is indeed postponed or cancelled.

I was thinking earlier today that if that parade happens it would be a high risk target for a terrorist attack.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:13:00pm

re: #62 Bubblehead II

I normally like opera singers but Ms Franklin is in a league by herself. Rest in Peace Ms Franklin.

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:13:09pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Its an Onion article, so I assume Fox News didn’t actually make this mistake.

Actually, I saw this error reproduced online much earlier today, so I think this WAS a real thing - I tend to doubt whether it was deliberate, though: however, it doesn’t say much about the quality of Fox News’ staff that they would male an egregious mistake like this (nor does it say much about the editors who let it slip by….

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:13:45pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

The fact that they felt the need to do this speaks volumes.

That’s the message I got and it’s not a good one. It’s sad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:14:14pm

re: #75 MsJ

Is it true or is it the Onion?

It would appear I was mislead by The Onion.

entertainment.theonion.com

I suppose when you are accustomed to FOX getting things wrong, it’s easy to accept someone’s attribution of a wrong claim to them. That speaks to checking sources before posting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:14:38pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

The fact that they felt the need to do this speaks volumes.

Fucking THIS times 1000.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:14:48pm

re: #60 Big Beautiful Door

Aretha’s cover of “Let It Be.” Sublime.

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This is the best tribute to an important life. To share & enjoy what they did. That you didn’t know!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:16:53pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Well, when they all look the same to you… .

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(It’s the Onion. I thought it was the perfect troll of Fox)

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:17:37pm

re: #82 b.d.

huffingtonpost.com

It would appear that The Onion posted a non-satirical article for once. FOX really did (briefly) broadcast a photo of Patti LaBelle, and apologised for it.

What’s the world coming to, when you can’t even trust The Onion for satire any more? //s

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EPR-radar  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:18:49pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

IMO this is a bullshit paper tiger exercise. I’d like to see something short and sweet out of the Senate along these lines:

“If President Trump cannot stop his fucking clown show, we aren’t going to be able to get any work done. Therefore on any day that the President posts stupid shit on Twitter, the Senate will be out of session.”

Of course any ‘work’ done by a Republican Senate is harmful to the nation, but baby steps. Let’s get a leash on this madman before he kills us all.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:19:15pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

I guess this is a good thing.

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Except for the little fact that they felt like it needed to be said.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:19:34pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹

It would appear that The Onion posted a non-satirical article for once. FOX really did (briefly) broadcast a photo of Patti LaBelle, and apologised for it.

What’s the world coming to, when you can’t even trust The Onion for satire any more? //s

No, it was satirical. The picture is Glady Knight.

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freetoken  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:22:48pm

Gazillions of galaxies:

Hubble Paints Picture of the Evolving Universe

Astronomers have just assembled one of the most comprehensive portraits yet of the universe’s evolutionary history, based on a broad spectrum of observations by the Hubble Space Telescope and other space and ground-based telescopes. In particular, Hubble’s ultraviolet vision opens a new window on the evolving universe, tracking the birth of stars over the last 11 billion years back to the cosmos’ busiest star-forming period, about 3 billion years after the big bang. This photo encompasses a sea of approximately 15,000 galaxies — 12,000 of which are star-forming — widely distributed in time and space.

The “northfield” image:
Image: STSCI-H-p1835a-m-2000x1768.png

Also there is a “southfield” image:
Image: STSCI-H-p1835c-m-2000x1972.png

Each is just a tiny patch of our sky.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:23:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:24:20pm

I’m glad Trump’s asinine military parade is being postponed until 2019, because it delays the explosion of my head a bit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:24:32pm

re: #96 JordanRules

And a flyover of invisible F35s.

“But I don’t hear anything!”

“That’s part of the Stealth Technology, Mr. President. Not much good being invisible if you can HEAR them, right, sir?”

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:25:30pm
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:28:04pm

re: #96 JordanRules

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What kind of fascist dictator can’t even pull off a the basic military parade? What a loser.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:29:15pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

Its an Onion article, so I assume Fox News didn’t actually make this mistake.

Actually, they did.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:30:06pm

re: #81 JordanRules

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Considering it’s FOX I’m honestly just impressed it wasn’t worse, ‘cuz it could’ve been so much worse.

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Jay C  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:30:07pm

re: #96 JordanRules

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Personally, I think we SHOULD have had some sort of event on or around November 11, - and a military parade (of sort some) would not have been inappropriate. as Nov. 11, 2018 will be the 100th anniversary of the end of the First World War*, and marking it would be (IMO) a nice gesture.

But of course, inasmuch as our “President” is an egomaniacal charlatan with little understanding of history (or much of anything beyond self-aggrandizement and marketing fake glitz to rubes), no such luck….

$92million?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:30:48pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, they did.

Hey, it’s a mistake anyone who thinks all black people look alike might make.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:30:55pm

re: #96 JordanRules

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oh, and lol at all of the people who already spent money and planned to be there.

Thanks for all of the advance notice there guys, those tickets/rooms are non-refundable btw.

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MsJ  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:31:07pm

re: #96 JordanRules

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She is so darned funny.

Play with the box! 🤣🤣😂😂😭😭

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:32:16pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:32:31pm

re: #105 b.d.

oh, and lol at all of the people who already spent money and planned to be there.

Thanks for all of the advance notice there guys, those tickets/rooms are non-refundable btw.

His MAGA folks should get used to that kind of screw job.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:32:33pm

I wonder who got the honor of telling Donnie that his parade wasn’t going to happen?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:32:39pm

re: #102 goddamnedfrank

Considering it’s FOX I’m honestly just impressed it wasn’t worse, ‘cuz it could’ve been so much worse.

“You IDIOTS!!! That’s BENJAMIN Franklin! Get it RIGHT!!”

A few minutes later….

“NO!!! This is Roosevelt Franklin from Sesame Street!”

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MsJ  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:32:46pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, they did.

So who was first? The Onion saying they did or the actual doing?

The Onion cannot keep up in these trying times.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:33:40pm

Good grief

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:34:16pm

re: #108 JordanRules

His MAGA folks should get used to that kind of screw job.

Every time I see ‘MAGA’, I imagine Ned from “Venture Brothers” clapping his hands together, shouting “MAGA! MAGA!”

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:34:29pm

re: #111 MsJ

So who was first? The Onion saying they did or the actual doing?

The Onion cannot keep up in these trying times.

Fox did it and Onion ran with it with the Gladys Knight pic twist.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:35:54pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

How are you doing, bro?

Hanging in there. Not much more I can do.

Aug+o+sBnBcNUYYbVWOy1JLUhD60PO26AWlok+DaI3fXs42U18u9iKVZqdqxind/KpYL8BYnFnNoHZBVZCPCF4T3jWNOo2epCuQEYb1Ci0ktxDqZdDk2flES213f005plCGHLMaxGJozm77Ag/yJ8XvF4Cf7fHuWKSPiS8OgL9OzE4QQIbf3X9guXnefLRQ8ZZWtL6JOFe/ytsNSfZnCIAg7Hwx+KrV+j0SkMnTA0jt79eiCxl8S8bb6CmiBPrwhtd6D6yJjY5pD/0Hmj0NjQ/egPYq+42PpqEPyJ1hFHys=

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:36:21pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:36:49pm

re: #116 Bubblehead II

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:46:19pm
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:47:10pm

How can a parade cost $100,000,000?

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jamesfirecat  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:47:28pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

“You IDIOTS!!! That’s BENJAMIN Franklin! Get it RIGHT!!”

A few minutes later….

“NO!!! This is Roosevelt Franklin from Sesame Street!”

Could be worse, they could have gotten an entirely different Franklin

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TedStriker  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:48:07pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:48:53pm

re: #122 TedStriker

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Oh hell yes! One of my favorite songs ever.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:50:22pm

re: #118 PhillyPretzel

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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:52:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:52:33pm

re: #50 b.d.

Horowitz needs to be thrown in a rubber room.

Horowitz was a Stalinist wack-job in the 60s, then switched sides to become a right wing wack-job. Ironic that this has now brought him come full circle and back to the arms of Mother Russia.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:53:30pm

re: #120 b.d.

How can a parade cost $100,000,000?

I love this. The cost has gone from an estimated $10 meg to $90 meg and now $100 meg. By the time it (may actually) will be be up into the Terra range? :-)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:54:37pm

re: #127 Bubblehead II

I love this. The cost has gone from an estimated $10 meg to $90 meg and now $100 meg. By the time it (may actually) will be be up into the Terra range? :-)

Wow, skipping the giga range? We’re completely boned now.///

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:55:59pm

re: #127 Bubblehead II

I love this. The cost has gone from an estimated $10 meg to $90 meg and now $100 meg. By the time it (may actually) will be be up into the Terra range? :-)

We were under budget until Trump insisted that we have an aircraft carrier there.

//

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:56:34pm

re: #129 b.d.

We were under budget until Trump insisted that we have an aircraft carrier there.

//

Hey, if Idaho can have one, Trump can too!

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Bubblehead II  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:56:44pm

re: #128 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wow, skipping the giga range? We’re completely boned now.///

Hey! It’s the internet. And yeah, I missed that range. You caught it before I could correct the error. :-)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:57:17pm

re: #129 b.d.

We were under budget until Trump insisted that we have an aircraft carrier there.

//

He’s also wondering why the Space Shuttle can’t do a flyby.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:57:30pm

re: #131 Bubblehead II

Hey! It’s the internet. And yeah, I missed that range. You caught it before I could correct the error. :-)

My day job is spent counting in kilo-, mega-, giga-, and tera-. Otherwise I would’ve missed it.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:58:58pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He’s also wondering why the Space Shuttle can’t do a flyby.

Let’s not forget the stealth invisible planes.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:59:14pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He’s also wondering why the Space Shuttle can’t do a flyby.

And digging up Patton ain’t cheap either.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 5:59:56pm
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:04:37pm

bwaaaaahaaaahaaaaa,

this is a sign! we need to glean q’s droppings for the real meaning on this one stat!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:04:51pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Pardon the poor pun, but it’s a shower of golden oldies.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:07:26pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:08:18pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

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I’m 100% certain that is a more accurate translation than the usual old saw.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:11:11pm

Sick of this shit

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:17:53pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:17:56pm

Rachel’s making some good points that these people who are getting g their clearances pulled won’t be able to review their records in the future. So if someone’s called to testify in the future, they won’t have this access to review their files.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:19:57pm

re: #140 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m 100% certain that is a more accurate translation than the usual old saw.

Which is not even an old Chinese proverb.

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fern01  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:22:08pm

re: #143 Dave In Austin

Rachel’s making some good points that these people who are getting g their clearances pulled won’t be able to review their records in the future. So if someone’s called to testify in the future, they won’t have this access to review their files.

And she’s showing ALL the people who trump wants to lose their clearances responding to the senate inquiry in regard to trump/Russia issues.

Many many times Rachel gets to the real reason for political actions - which most other pundits do not. She should be the highest paid pundit in the US.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:31:19pm

The comments are good

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:36:19pm

re: #116 Bubblehead II

Hanging in there. Not much more I can do.

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fern01  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:38:18pm

re: #14 Single-handed sailor

Protecting trump - as usual

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fern01  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:44:52pm

re: #41 Jay C

And of course, the gratuitous slur on Obama… who I guess (in Horowitz’s estimation) didn’t love his country enough to sell it out to the Russians for loans….

Attacking President Obama (or a Clinton) is all they have - impossible to defend trump so they attack others.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:46:28pm

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:47:15pm

Just had an idiotic Louise Mensch fan in my mentions who of course described themselves as “still Republican” and #NeverTrump. Not today Satan. Not today.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:47:36pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:47:56pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:49:25pm

re: #150 teleskiguy

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:51:19pm
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Teukka  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:53:34pm

… Simply “…”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:54:13pm

re: #156 Teukka

[dafuq.gif]

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:54:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:55:41pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Just had an idiotic Louise Mensch fan in my mentions who of course described themselves as “still Republican” and #NeverTrump. Not today Satan. Not today.

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I go to church with a guy like that. Doesn’t like Trump and won’t vote for him but will vote for almost any other Republican.

This is what he said to convince me he could be “reasonable” when it comes to politics.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:56:47pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:58:06pm
Mr. Trump’s claims of no collusion are, in a word, hogwash.

The only questions that remain are whether the collusion that took place constituted criminally liable conspiracy, whether obstruction of justice occurred to cover up any collusion or conspiracy, and how many members of “Trump Incorporated” attempted to defraud the government by laundering and concealing the movement of money into their pockets. A jury is about to deliberate bank and tax fraud charges against one of those people, Paul Manafort, Mr. Trump’s former campaign chairman. And the campaign’s former deputy chairman, Rick Gates, has pleaded guilty to financial fraud and lying to investigators.

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fern01  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:58:10pm

re: #127 Bubblehead II

I love this. The cost has gone from an estimated $10 meg to $90 meg and now $100 meg. By the time it (may actually) will be be up into the Terra range? :-)

trump has to get his %

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 6:58:10pm

re: #156 Teukka

… Simply “…”

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Any real news network would be ashamed to have such an ignoramus working for them and fix that problem.

it’s not like they are running out of gals that meet those high job qualifications.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:02:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:03:56pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:06:19pm
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:08:20pm

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

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lol, the rubes are pissed that their donations are being given away to people as bribes?

keep giving suckers!

btw, I thought Trump said he was going to self-fund his campaign anyways?

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Weaselone  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:10:39pm

re: #158 JordanRules

I think that Beto might manage to get it done. It still doesn’t say much good in that the race shouldn’t really even be close given the relative quality of the candidates.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:13:30pm

re: #168 Weaselone

Don’t underestimate the Russians ability to fuck things up in the end.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:13:53pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:14:53pm

re: #156 Teukka

… Simply “…”

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Yet again, Idiocracy is here, though in real life eugenics had nothing to do with it.

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Chrysicat  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:15:58pm
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Jay C  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:16:25pm

re: #158 JordanRules

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I’ve noticed an interesting thing about Beto O’Rourke’s campaign-rally photos: they almost always seem to be taken from behind the candidate: so that the size of the crowd is immediately apparent - so, unlike some candidates we’ve seen, no crowds-jammed-up-to-the-front pix to hide acres of empty seats.

re: #167 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

btw, I thought Trump said he was going to self-fund his campaign anyways?

Maybe he did: he just didn’t want to be rude and turn down all those millions of dollars his “fans” so eagerly wanted to throw at him…

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Chrysicat  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:18:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:19:30pm

Made it to season 5 of “The 100” on Netflix and I’m still not sure why I’m watching this hokey show.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:19:31pm

LOL!

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:19:48pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:23:28pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Made it to season 5 of “The 100” on Netflix and I’m still not sure why I’m watching this hokey show.

I gave up on Season 1 of the show.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:23:52pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Yet again, Idiocracy is here, though in real life eugenics had nothing to do with it.

In the case of Idiocracy, I think you need to coin a new word: “dysgenics”. I guess it’s new—I’ve never seen it—but wherever there’s a “eu-” there’s a “dys-“, right?

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:25:27pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:30:31pm

Charles, you’re not the only one suffering from sharing a name with a maniac.

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Interesting Times  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:31:39pm

re: #171 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Yet again, Idiocracy is here, though in real life eugenics had nothing to do with it.

Speaking of which, is this a sign that even the worm a certain city you’re familiar with could turn?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:34:45pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:35:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:36:06pm

re: #182 Interesting Times

Speaking of which, is this a sign that even the worm a certain city you’re familiar with could turn?

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Whataburger is a happening place in Lubbock nightlife, since it’s where the drunks go when the bars close. They have armed guards on the overnight shift.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:36:11pm

Someone’s a dummy, but it’s not the patriots that this clown denigrates.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:36:50pm

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

Don’t underestimate the Russians ability to fuck things up in the end.

I stopped being worried about how high Russian influence goes in our country. What literally kept me up at least one night is how wide, that is to say laterally pervasive through many levels that the cure would make the red scare of long ago appear tepid. But this time not at all misplaced. Every cash heavy business is awash in dirty Russian money.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:39:45pm

re: #181 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Charles, you’re not the only one suffering from sharing a name with a maniac.

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I was gonna say—this isn’t the David Horowitz who was the “Consumer Ombudsman” for so many years, right?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:40:37pm

Anyone else here been watching Castle Rock?

What a twisty, fucked up (in a good way) show. I am six episodes in and I still barely know what the hell is going on.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:41:02pm

re: #167 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

Self funded with other people’s money. To be honest, I don’t think Trump expected to win so there was no way he was going to use his own money. He’s all about the grifting.

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Skip Intro  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:43:13pm

re: #188 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

No.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:43:17pm

OMG how the hell did I forget that Aretha was also the undisputed Queen of Shade.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:44:46pm

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

Self funded with other people’s money. To be honest, I don’t think Trump expected to win so there was no way he was going to use his own money. He’s all about the grifting.

He saw McCain all over TV for 8 years as President-in-Exile, and that was the gig he was going after.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:44:51pm

re: #174 Chrysicat

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I thought MAGAts would be calling for Shep’s head on a platter since right wingers seem so fond of death threats.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:48:39pm

re: #192 goddamnedfrank

OMG how the hell did I forget that Aretha was also the undisputed Queen of Shade.

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Absolutely she was!
She was like Thanos with her voice on stage with all the lesser (but amazing) divas on the VH1 ‘Divas Live’ ending number back in the day.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:50:59pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:55:46pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:57:48pm

re: #197 JordanRules

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Jeez—when you lose Petraeus….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:57:53pm

re: #197 JordanRules

That’s gotta be a first, like so many other fucked up things about this Presidency.

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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:57:53pm

Lots of pissed off hippies near Watkins Glen.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 7:59:38pm

re: #184 JordanRules

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Kragar  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:02:08pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:09:37pm
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Belafon  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:10:56pm

Got the middle kid off to college. The house is a heartbeat quieter, and the roar is still hard to bear.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:12:28pm

Ha, ha, ha!

I’m not gonna tell her. It’s cute though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:15:27pm

re: #205 JordanRules

It is funny.

But who the fuck is she talking about?

Oh wait, it’s in reference to herself. JFC.

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Belafon  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:16:51pm

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

It is funny.

But who the fuck is she talking about?

Oh wait, it’s in reference to herself. JFC.

If she thinks she’s in charge, then what happened to her maiden name?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:17:10pm

I’d love to see Trump lawyers try to introduce Judicial Watch articles and Fox News reports as evidence in court. The smackdown from the Judge would be glorious.

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gocart mozart  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:18:04pm
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:21:43pm

Was it just me or did anyone else notice that the First Annual Titty Twister Fest on the White House lawn today was a bit awkweird, to say the least?

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KGxvi  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:23:29pm

re: #209 gocart mozart

Also an acceptable answer to the whole “it was about states rights not slavery”:

So, what states rights in particular were so important?

But I do enjoy the “no, here are the Declarations of Secession in which they specifically say it’s about slavery” answer.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:24:47pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:27:50pm

re: #211 KGxvi

Also an acceptable answer to the whole “it was about states rights not slavery”:

But I do enjoy the “no, here are the Declarations of Secession in which they specifically say it’s about slavery” answer.

And “What about the “States’ Rights” of northern states who refused to return escaped slaves and kept southern slave-catchers out? They were pretty hot to take away those ‘States’ Rights™’.”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:33:01pm

I have to admit to being disappointed, to say the last, for coming in second behind George and Kellyanne Conway in the 2018 Utah Osmond Family Manboob Championship. ;-(

Anyone have Michael Avenatti’s cell #?

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:37:29pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:40:20pm

re: #213 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And “What about the “States’ Rights” of northern states who refused to return escaped slaves and kept southern slave-catchers out? They were pretty hot to take away those ‘States’ Rights™’.”

And I should have added that they succeeded quite well in taking away those States’ Rights without seceding.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 8:43:15pm
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:06:13pm

Damn you, Donny and Jimmy Osmond, my moobs put yours to shame! Or so Bruce Valinch tells me!

Btw, why does spellcheck okay the wacky Bruce Valinch, but not the sensible two term president Barack Obama?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:06:56pm

re: #120 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

How can a parade cost $100,000,000?

90,000,000 goes for the rent in the Trump DC Hotel.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:10:28pm

re: #180 Single-handed sailor

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:15:37pm

re: #205 JordanRules

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:18:59pm

re: #175 Charles Johnson

Made it to season 5 of “The 100” on Netflix and I’m still not sure why I’m watching this hokey show.

There must be something that keeps you watching; there are too many shows to watch to keep watching something that long otherwise.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:19:04pm

re: #219 Joe Bacon 🌹

90,000,000 goes for the rent in the Trump DC Hotel.

The way the dollar is shrinking, that’s what, $76 in Euros?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:22:13pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

Anyone else here been watching Castle Rock?

What a twisty, fucked up (in a good way) show. I am six episodes in and I still barely know what the hell is going on.

Me; I love good Stephen King stuff.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:35:11pm

Ankle Woof……..

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:39:18pm

My fellow lizardi, if I’ve been remiss in posting much lately, it’s because I’ve been looking after my 88 year old friend Teddy, a cool cat who’s getting on in years but not at all lacking in wisdom. But anyway, nice to see you all gathered here and speaking truth to idiocy, insanity and inanity.

By the late great Steve Ditko, who I always wanted to meet, but goddamnit it’s too late now
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retired cynic  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:42:03pm

re: #160 The Vicious Babushka

I thought she hated to fly. Maybe something else?

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austin_blue  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:43:24pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Horowitz was a Stalinist wack-job in the 60s, then switched sides to become a right wing wack-job. Ironic that this has now brought him come full circle and back to the arms of Mother Russia.

No fanatic like a convert. Think of every dry, self-loathing drunk you know.

NB: I’m not talking about honest addicts who are working the program. I’m talking about folks who refuse to acknowledge the bone of their addictive behavior and turn it into another addiction.

IE: That guy who you ask about why he became a Vegan, and end up as a husk of a shell of a human being three days later when he finally ends his explanation.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:45:13pm
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austin_blue  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:45:18pm

re: #185 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Whataburger is a happening place in Lubbock nightlife, since it’s where the drunks go when the bars close. They have armed guards on the overnight shift.

After a rough night on The Slide, you need sustenance.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 16, 2018 • 9:56:25pm
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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:00:33pm

Lady Aretha had an amazing way of covering someone’s already killer song and totally destroying the original version, in a good way of course. For example, her cover of Stevie Wonder’s superb song, Until You Come Back To Me, blows Stevie out of the water (sorry, Steveland). And her sisters Erma and Carolyn were always so powerful and miraculous singing in the background. This is pure Aretha Franklin, one of the very greatest artists of our time.

I am honored to have lived in her lifetime.

Aretha Franklin - Until You Come Back To Me (That’s What I’m Gonna Do)

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:02:48pm

re: #137 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

Q, the notorious government employee with top secret clearance, spent today getting extremely upset about XBox Live being down.

If that’s not a sign that this latest iteration of QAnon is simply a 20-something (or maybe 30-something) hardcore gamer, nothing else is.

There’s been a change in the style of QAnon postings over the last week or so - whomever is running the QAnon account is most definitely not the person who started it…….or the person(s) who really made it take off a few months back.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:05:17pm

Checked the spam folder on my alt email account, saw one of those cookie cutter “we got your old password off some random website so pay us in bitcoin or we’ll air a bunch of dirty laundry we assume you must have” blackmail demands. Filed a report with the FBI.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:24:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:25:21pm

It continues. Amy needs help.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:28:20pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:30:20pm

Lest we forget, Aretha Franklin was also a badass pianist.

Aretha FRANKLIN - “Hard Times” (Playing PIANO)

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austin_blue  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:31:11pm

Can’t wait for Drumpf’s reaction to his Babes In Toyland Tin Soldier Parade being shut down.

Well, meh, maybe he won’t mention it. Kind of embarrassing and all.

But I do think that the Russian e-mail about dumping Security Clearances for twelve former IC staff two days before the first dump is an indication-

a clear indication-

of part of what Drumpf and Pootin’ talked about in Helsinki.

The fucker is a Russian asset. Full stop.

Pootin’ asks, Drumpf delivers.

The Russian’s e-mail makes it obvious.

I’m for the rack. Night all. Sweet dreams. Hopefully, tomorrow will be conviction/pardon, and new indictment Friday.

And if I were Donny, Jr., I’d be be wearing my brown pants right about now.

Also, god bless Aretha Franklin. What a voice, what a range of genres. What a remarkable woman. Someone upstairs said the airport in Detroit should be named after her. Memphis will argue for that honor. She was born there.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 16, 2018 • 10:45:15pm

‘Nighty night kiddos

Went to see the Gypsy-Bob Dylan (New Morning outtake)

I suspect that the photo is BS, but the song is true to the bone, and the gypsy was gone.

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Kragar  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:08:26pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:17:54pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:22:05pm

re: #241 goddamnedfrank

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Did you catch this thread?

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:27:37pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:28:42pm
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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:29:49pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:30:33pm

re: #245 JordanRules

Did you catch this thread?

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From the top of Amy Siskind’s Wikipedia page:

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Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article’s entry on the Articles for deletion page.
Feel free to improve the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the guide to deletion.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:40:50pm

re: #245 JordanRules

Did you catch this thread?

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Yeah, saw it earlier, very instructive.

Remember I also gave Sarah K and Melissa McEwan shit recently for what I saw as them wearing racial blinders with regards to saying Obama should have voided the election results to stop Trump. That shit would have gotten him killed and made Trump even more powerful. But at least I can understand the frustration that caused them to go down that road, whereas I’m completely fucking done with Amy.

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JordanRules  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:47:03pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

Yeah, saw it earlier, very instructive.

Remember I also gave Sarah K and Melissa McEwan shit recently for what I saw as them wearing racial blinders with regards to saying Obama should have voided the election results to stop Trump. That shit would have gotten him killed and made Trump even more powerful. But at least I can understand the frustration that caused them to go down that road, whereas I’m completely fucking done with Amy.

Hell I get frustrated at that from time to time too because I knew who would be hurt most by the illegitimate regime.

But yeah the Michael Moore thing was right on and reminded me of that thread. Selling dreams.

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Kragar  Aug 16, 2018 • 11:55:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:14:46am

re: #207 Belafon

If she thinks she’s in charge, then what happened to her maiden name?

Someone here on Twitter could ask her… .

Last I heard, the GOP Chair is an employee of the Republican Party. The Chair doesn’t lead diddly … that would be Mr. Trump, not Ms. Romney-McDaniels.

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majii  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:23:13am

re: #84 PhillyPretzel When Luciano Pavorotti was sick and couldn’t sing Nessun Dorma as scheduled at the 1998 Grammys, Aretha stepped in as his substitute, and received a standing ovation.

Aretha Franklin performing “Nessun Dorma” at 1998 Grammys.

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freetoken  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:35:30am
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Kragar  Aug 17, 2018 • 2:20:44am
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teleskiguy  Aug 17, 2018 • 2:21:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 2:27:42am

re: #257 Kragar

Fox News host Tucker Carlson repeatedly claims ‘tacos are American food’ to confused Mexican journalist ]

Chimichangas are an American invention, and any taco served at Taco Bell has little to do with Mexico.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 17, 2018 • 2:46:27am

re: #235 Single-handed sailor

I can’t believe anyone doesn’t want aquarium fish to glow.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 17, 2018 • 3:55:40am

re: #204 Belafon

Got the middle kid off to college. The house is a heartbeat quieter, and the roar is still hard to bear.

Our youngest starts on the 23rd. I am looking forward to being able to visit the fridge and still find the last ice cream sandwich I left there.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:25:43am

re: #245 JordanRules

Did you catch this thread?

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This was in that thread. An article by Amy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:31:57am

re: #262 MsJ

This was in that thread. An article by Amy.

thedailybeast.com

Sarah has tits, therefore she must be on our side.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:35:57am

re: #263 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sarah has tits, therefore she must be on our side.

Same as Palin=Clinton and any vagina will do…something I will never forgive McCain, Schmidt and Wallace for.

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jeffreyw  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:38:33am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:38:48am

Nate Silver has his new House model out, and he give’s Democrats a near 75% chance of winning control.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:41:55am

re: #264 MsJ

Same as Palin=Clinton and any vagina will do…something I will never forgive McCain, Schmidt and Wallace for.

She was also foisted on them by the Religious Right who insisted on getting their choice of VP or withholding support

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:46:57am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:48:23am
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:50:56am

Good Morning. You guys may have heard of the “Corpse Flower” at the Huntington Library. My wife works with greenhouse managers over there, and one of them runs the grow space for these flowers. After much publicity, one of the flowers failed to bloom. When another came though Brandon was overcome with relief. And the smell of rotting meat in the sun. She got the candid shot.

Brandon and the Corpse Flower Morphus tiatnum
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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:56:42am

re: #270 Unshaken Defiance

Good Morning. You guys may have heard of the “Corpse Flower” at the Huntington Library. My wife works with greenhouse managers over there, and one of them runs the grow space for these flowers. After much publicity, one of the flowers failed to bloom. When another came though Brandon was overcome with relief. And the smell of rotting meat in the sun. She got the candid shot.

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That thing looks positively Triassic.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:58:33am

re: #256 freetoken

50 years ago:

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“She is soul”

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 5:59:36am
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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:11:53am

re: #255 majii

When Luciano Pavorotti was sick and couldn’t sing Nessun Dorma as scheduled at the 1998 Grammys, Aretha stepped in as his substitute, and received a standing ovation. I’m including the link to the video on YouTube. I’m not technologically enough to copy the video of her singing it, but the link is here:

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She apparently did it with only a few hours notice too. This is something one would usually prep weeks for. It was a pretty amazing feat.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:12:55am
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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:14:09am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy backtracking and lying his ass off (I know, it’s a day ending in Y).

He’s got to do something to avoid getting Omaroasted (can’t take credit for that) with yet more tapes showing that after she got fired from the WH, the Trump campaign wanted her to work with the campaign for $15k a month to keep quiet.

Yeah, this is one huge grift and con. But she had the receipts. They’re all fucking corrupt.

But what’s the latest lies and backtracking?

It’s that the idiot’s idea of a parade turned out to cost nearly $100 million (or like 10x Trump’s claimed costs - which were still too damned high for a vanity show). He wants to blame DC for the costs, when the reality is that it takes a shit-ton of logistics and planning to get military assets and resources to appear in a parade. It undermines military readiness as assets are out of place should they be needed, and it diverts critical resources.

But Trump wants his vanity parade. The Pentagon punted, hoping they’ll never have to do it.

So Trump’s now claiming there’ll be a parade at Andrews and then another one in November in France to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the end of the War to End All Wars™. He’s such a buffoon that he thinks the parades are for him.

Even as he and the GOP shit all over veterans and are looking to gut health coverage and mental health coverage, he wants the money not spent on the parade to go buy planes.

The parade would cost about $100 million.

A brand new F-35 would cost: about $100 million. In other words, you might get a single plane (except acquisitions are paid for from different accounts than operations, like his idiotic parade). He doesn’t have a clue what anything costs, and then rails when the costs are high.

He’s a threat to the nation, and the GOP loves it because while Trump gets the attention, they’re busy gutting the safety net and undermining public health and the regulatory apparatus that keeps polluters in check, attempts to stop companies from screwing employees and customers, and protects people from predatory lenders.

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:17:34am
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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:20:47am

re: #276 lawhawk

Oh, and about that so-called parade at Andrews - not a single person knows what the fuck Trump’s talking about because there’s no parade there. The only event that remotely approximates a parade is an airshow but that isn’t until 2019:

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:24:41am

200.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:25:39am

re: #276 lawhawk

He’s a threat to the nation, and the GOP loves it because while Trump gets the attention, they’re busy gutting the safety net and undermining public health and the regulatory apparatus that keeps polluters in check, attempts to stop companies from screwing employees and customers, and protects people from predatory lenders.

That is why the whole Omarosa-and-the-N-word blowup is a net win for Trump. It will not do him any net damage and it will have distracted us for another several news cycles.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:27:49am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

She was also foisted on them by the Religious Right who insisted on getting their choice of VP or withholding support

The Religious Right are the foot soldiers of the GOP. The billionaires supply the money, but the GOP still needs volunteers and, critically voters, since money still can’t vote. The GOP has to run on culture wars, because very few people are going to vote for more tax cuts for billionaires, and the GOP has no positive agenda to help anyone who isn’t in the top 1%.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:29:11am

Morning!

So, the President Baby is crying about his parade is he. And he is blaming it on DC.

I think I know why he using DC as the excuse of being run poorly.

What color and sex is the mayor?

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:31:00am

Who is surprised? Anyone?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:31:20am

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

The Religious Right are the foot soldiers of the GOP. The billionaires supply the money, but the GOP still needs volunteers and, critically voters, since money still can’t vote. The GOP has to run on culture wars, because very few people are going to vote for more tax cuts for billionaires, and the GOP has no positive agenda to help anyone who isn’t in the top 1%.

The Religious Right also has its own agenda, which they put in place as soon as Ronald Reagan ditched them as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer told her that the stars were right to do so: they have been insinuating their people into all levels of public life: government, public administration, education, the military, etc.

Mike Pence represents their ultimate triumph, a proper Fundamentalist theocrat a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

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Lupin  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:31:30am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is why the whole Omarosa-and-the-N-word blowup is a net win for Trump. It will not do him any net damage and it will have distracted us for another several news cycles.

I don’t necessarily agree. I think it will only firm up the 60% vs 40% split in the US between non-nazis and nazis. Since apathy tends to be on our side, I think anything that fuels our 60% even if it equally fuels the 40% is a good thing, because I believe that ultimately numbers are on our side.

That said, a country with 40% nazis has a huge problem, that goes way beyond Trump. If a clown like that can raise to the level he reached, I shudder to think what a smart nazi might achieve.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:32:35am

re: #285 Lupin

I don’t necessarily agree. I think it will only firm up the 60% vs 40% split in the US between non-nazis and nazis.

She is not telling us anything we did not know before.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:32:36am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is why the whole Omarosa-and-the-N-word blowup is a net win for Trump. It will not do him any net damage and it will have distracted us for another several news cycles.

It is more than the N word. Yesterday’s recording had not one thing to do with the N word. I get the feeling her other tapes have more to do with the staff and Donny and how they do and don’t do things than the N word.

So, why mention Omarosa is only about the N word?

Edit: Switched “tape” to recording. More realistic.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:32:37am

Well, this didn’t go as planned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:33:25am

re: #287 ObserverArt

It is more than the N word. Yesterday’s tape had not one thing to do with the N word. I get the feeling her other tapes have more to do with the staff and Donny and how they do and don’t do things than the N word.

So, why mention Omarosa is only about the N word?

We already know that Trump and his staff are dysfunctional, she is just elaborating on the details of how.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:35:21am

re: #285 Lupin

I don’t necessarily agree. I think it will only firm up the 60% vs 40% split in the US between non-nazis and nazis. Since apathy tends to be on our side, I think anything that fuels our 60% even if it equally fuels the 40% is a good thing, because I believe that ultimately numbers are on our side.

That said, a country with 40% nazis has a huge problem, that goes way beyond Trump. If a clown like that can raise to the level he reached, I shudder to think what a smart nazi might achieve.

At most it is 20%. Still too much, but it is nowhere near 40%.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:35:31am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We already know that Trump and his staff are dysfunctional, she is just elaborating on the details of how.

And at some point, if it is repeatedly on display, those who fence sit or only hear news in dribs and drabs might start to think that a reality tv star as POTUS is a bad idea, as is his entire party.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:35:53am

re: #283 MsJ

Who is surprised? Anyone?

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Unfortunately all the Fox News watching geezers who have retired to Florida make him the favorite to win the Florida Senate race.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:37:50am

re: #288 MsJ

Well, this didn’t go as planned.

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one of the responses:

People are just ignorant.
Lee was a West Point Graduate who was a hero prior to joining the South. He was probably one of the greatest Generals we ever had. He was just on the wrong side.

whether he was a ‘hero’ at all, that was just until he became a traitor

he was NOT one of the greatest generals we ever had

as he was on the wrong side, ‘we’ didn’t have him. ‘they’ had him

morans

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:39:02am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Religious Right also has its own agenda, which they put in place as soon as Ronald Reagan ditched them as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer told her that the stars were right to do so: they have been insinuating their people into all levels of public life: government, public administration, education, the military, etc.

Mike Pence represents their ultimate triumph, a proper Fundamentalist theocrat a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

I hope he gets so covered in shit from his association with the Trump Administration that his 2024 Presidential campaign flops as badly as Quayle 2000.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:39:29am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We already know that Trump and his staff are dysfunctional, she is just elaborating on the details of how.

yes we “know”

she’s proving it incontrovertibly
(though it will be anyway)

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:40:17am

re: #280 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is why the whole Omarosa-and-the-N-word blowup is a net win for Trump. It will not do him any net damage and it will have distracted us for another several news cycles.

People are not on the N word tape. They are on the one with possible campaign finance issues and obvious bribery.

But more importantly than that…

The news cycle hasn’t distracted Mueller or any of the people on the ground doing the actual work including elected and campaigning Dems, civic groups like the ACLU (who have won tons of legal battles against this admin while you repeat this empty refrain) and March for Our Lives/Mom’s Demand(who have actually helped pass gun reform while you repeat this empty refrain), protesters at the White House and local Congressional offices, Pro Publica and Mother Jones are still doing major investigative reporting, Rachel Maddow has educated her audience on the Manafort trial everyday, voter registration groups have been working their buts off at every event they can from NFL summer camps to Lady Gaga concerts. State AGs are continuing to sue the admin as needed. More Dems voted in the last set of primaries than Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:40:28am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We already know that Trump and his staff are dysfunctional, she is just elaborating on the details of how.

Yes, we know; people like us that follow politics and know a little about Trump.

The constant drumbeat of corruption, which her tapes seem destined to help confirm from right inside the White House, tears at the supporters that are teetering. They help add to the Mueller investigation too.

That investigation and the overall cloud of corruption are the key to bringing him down. It will not be the “N” word.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:42:09am

re: #282 ObserverArt

Morning!

So, the President Baby is crying about his parade is he. And he is blaming it on DC.

I think I know why he using DC as the excuse of being run poorly.

What color and sex is the mayor?

Surprised he caved on this so quickly. I’d thought he would do anything and everything to make this pageant to his Awesome MAGA awesomeness, I mean, our great American military, work out.

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:43:18am

Everything Trump touches turns to crap. Everything Trump thinks is total BS.

The Smell of Napalm In the Morning - Apocalypse Now (4/8) Movie CLIP (1979) HD

He’s addled, and hasn’t got a clue.

His staff treats him like a toddler, and they can’t control him when he goes off script, which is all the time.

It’s a fucking shit show.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:44:44am

re: #275 Stanley Sea

The local politicians who run Washington, D.C. (poorly) know a windfall when they see it. When asked to give us a price for holding a great celebratory military parade, they wanted a number so ridiculously high that I cancelled it. Never let someone hold you up! I will instead…

— Donald J. Trump

King of the grifters says what?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:45:56am

re: #293 dangerman

one of the responses:

whether he was a ‘hero’ at all, that was just until he became a traitor

he was NOT one of the greatest generals we ever had

as he was on the wrong side, ‘we’ didn’t have him. ‘they’ had him

morans

And frankly, he wasn’t that great a general. Manpower was a precious scarce resource for the Confederacy; in the 1860 Census, there were only about 1.1 million white males between 15-40 in the states that would secede, about a quarter of the number in the free states. And Lee repeatedly launched attacks that cost him huge numbers of men; his 1862 invasion of Maryland was a bloody disaster he barely escaped from after Antietam, and Pickett’s Charge was an utter disaster Lee insisted on attempting.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:48:02am

re: #257 Kragar

We gained the right to tacos when we conquered Mexico and took California from them, OK?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:48:37am

re: #301 Big Beautiful Door

And frankly, he wasn’t that great a general. Manpower was a precious scarce resource for the Confederacy; in the 1860 Census, there were only about 1.1 million white males between 15-40 in the states that would secede, about a quarter of the number in the free states. And Lee repeatedly launched attacks that cost him huge numbers of men; his 1862 invasion of Maryland was a bloody disaster he barely escaped from after Antietam, and Pickett’s Charge was an utter disaster Lee insisted on attempting.

Not to mention a shortage of officers who were skilled and literate enough to issue and follow complex written orders.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:48:53am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

King of the grifters says what?

Some more of that sweet, sweet projection.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:49:05am

re: #299 lawhawk

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Everything Trump touches turns to crap. Everything Trump thinks is total BS.

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Video

He’s addled, and hasn’t got a clue.

His staff treats him like a toddler, and they can’t control him when he goes off script, which is all the time.

It’s a fucking shit show.

BTW, Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now is one of the great performances in film history.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:50:37am

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

BTW, Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now is one of the great performances in film history.

I finally saw the director’s cut and the movie began to make sense, the dark humor also came through a lot stronger.

Brando was still a fucking disaster, though.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:51:01am

re: #299 lawhawk

Everything Trump touches turns to crap. Everything Trump thinks is total BS.

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He’s addled, and hasn’t got a clue.

His staff treats him like a toddler, and they can’t control him when he goes off script, which is all the time.

It’s a fucking shit show.

Trump presidency. Shite, we’re still in the Trump presidency.

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plansbandc  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:52:14am

re: #264 MsJ

It was and is incredibly insulting. Reason number 54,127 why I hate the Republican party.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:54:24am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:55:41am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not to mention a shortage of officers who were skilled and literate enough to issue and follow complex written orders.

He was fortunate to face a series of incompetent Union Generals until Lincoln finally put Grant in charge. Not Lincoln’s fault; he couldn’t know the mettle of the men he appointed until they actually had to lead men in combat, and Grant had to prove himself worthy after the way he was drummed out of the military.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:56:53am

re: #309 JordanRules

Damn, RINO.

/

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 6:57:46am

re: #306 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I finally saw the director’s cut and the movie began to make sense, the dark humor also came through a lot stronger.

Brando was still a fucking disaster, though.

Brando strangely worked for me. He was playing a madman, and he didn’t have to act crazy because he already was.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:00:25am

Don’t take a sip of coffee (any beverage) before you read this next tweet.

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I warned you.

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*morning chuckles*

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Jay C  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:01:57am

re: #298 Sir John Barron

Surprised he caved on this so quickly. I’d thought he would do anything and everything to make this pageant to his Awesome MAGA awesomeness, I mean, our great American military, work out.

My guess is that if were were left up to President Man-Baby himself, he’d be pushing for his BFD military parade regardless of the cost* - what it looks like is someone in the WH got a look at the real $$ numbers, and managed to convince Napoleon Trump that spending scores of millions on a uniformed ego-boost like he was planning would be bad optics: and, unusually, the Toddler-in-Chief went along with it.

*though with only 3 months to go, there probably wasn’t time for the usual backup Republican plan (i.e. get it financed by corporate funding)

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:02:25am
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William Lewis  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:02:50am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not to mention a shortage of officers who were skilled and literate enough to issue and follow complex written orders.

He had a really bad habit of telling a subordinate very vaguely what he wanted done. This bit his ass several times at Gettysburg.

Gettysburg is a classic example of how he wasn’t that great - he got out generaled by Buford & Meade and ignored his best general’s advice - that of Longstreet.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:04:40am

re: #277 lawhawk

I’ve also heard that the quarterly reporting approach has turned companies into short-sighted operations, as compared to Europe, which, IIRC, does them yearly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:04:48am

re: #310 Big Beautiful Door

He was fortunate to face a series of incompetent Union Generals until Lincoln finally put Grant in charge. Not Lincoln’s fault; he couldn’t know the mettle of the men he appointed until they actually had to lead men in combat, and Grant had to prove himself worthy after the way he was drummed out of the military.

The South had great generals, what they lacked were junior-grade line officers and especially staff officers who could transmit orders without getting them lost as was the case leading up to Antietam, which was only saved through McClellan’s incompetence and dithering.

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William Lewis  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:05:03am

re: #310 Big Beautiful Door

He was fortunate to face a series of incompetent Union Generals until Lincoln finally put Grant in charge. Not Lincoln’s fault; he couldn’t know the mettle of the men he appointed until they actually had to lead men in combat, and Grant had to prove himself worthy after the way he was drummed out of the military.

Meade stomped him quite successfully. Grant get’s all the glory but there were more good Union officers than just him.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:05:47am

This story (from the original tweet)…I just cannot get enough. All the shitheads in the trailer park having affairs (your mother in law? Really?), all listing their occupations as White Nationalist on the police report. This is comedy gold for anyone needing a sit-com idea.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:08:22am

re: #316 William Lewis

He had a really bad habit of telling a subordinate very vaguely what he wanted done. This bit his ass several times at Gettysburg.

Gettysburg is a classic example of how he wasn’t that great - he got out generaled by Buford & Meade and ignored his best general’s advice - that of Longstreet.

Still a marvel that Lincoln cashiered the head of the Army of the Potomac just days earlier—Fighting Joe Hooker who probably had it coming—and it still managed to withstand Lee at Gettysburg. Under the circumstances it could all have gone very terribly wrong.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:08:45am

What a great read!

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:10:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:11:48am

re: #323 MsJ

This is bonkers. People don’t really pay attention to SCOTUS nominations and just sort of default to “yes.” I don’t think I’ve ever seen a SCOTUS nominee underwater before.

I can only guess that this has to do with people remembering what McConnell and the GOP did to Obama’s nominee.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:14:27am

re: #316 William Lewis

He had a really bad habit of telling a subordinate very vaguely what he wanted done. This bit his ass several times at Gettysburg.

Gettysburg is a classic example of how he wasn’t that great - he got out generaled by Buford & Meade and ignored his best general’s advice - that of Longstreet.

He could get away with that with Jackson, because Jackson was brilliant; if anyone was a great General in the ANV, it was him.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:15:00am

re: #322 JordanRules

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What a great read!

That thread is LIFE. I was not surprised to see he is a writer. It was beautiful.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:15:43am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only guess that this has to do with people remembering what McConnell and the GOP did to Obama’s nominee.

Although the numbers for Gorsch were much better.

Can’t wait for The Yam to start whining about this poll.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:15:49am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only guess that this has to do with people remembering what McConnell and the GOP did to Obama’s nominee.

I can’t see that since Gorsuch. If that was the case, Gorsuch would have paid the price for McConnell’s actions.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:16:37am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The South had great generals, what they lacked were junior-grade line officers and especially staff officers who could transmit orders without getting them lost as was the case leading up to Antietam, which was only saved through McClellan’s incompetence and dithering.

If Grant or Sherman had been in charge of the Army of the Potomac at Antietam, Lee would never have made it back to Virginia, and the War might’ve ended two years earlier. Again, not Lincoln’s fault.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:17:43am

FYI. Gillum is polling under 15% in every major poll. No major newspaper in the state has endorsed Gillum. Bernie is the only major national figure to endorse Gillum. In other words, Bernie is throwing his support behind a guy that has zero chance of winning the primary.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:18:59am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:19:16am

re: #319 William Lewis

Meade stomped him quite successfully. Grant get’s all the glory but there were more good Union officers than just him.

Meade was good, but he didn’t have Grant’s drive. He just sat there after Gettysburg and let Lee slink back to Virginia to regroup. During Grant’s 1864 campaign in Virgina, he never let up until he pushed Lee all the way back into Richmond and Petersburg.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:19:30am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

FYI. Gillum is polling under 15% in every major poll. No major newspaper in the state has endorsed Gillum. Bernie is the only major national figure to endorse Gillum. In other words, Bernie is throwing his support behind a guy that has zero chance of winning the primary.

Green candidate? Or the actual Dem candidate? Is the primary still upcoming?

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Jay C  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:19:40am

re: #301 Big Beautiful Door

And frankly, he wasn’t that great a general. Manpower was a precious scarce resource for the Confederacy; in the 1860 Census, there were only about 1.1 million white males between 15-40 in the states that would secede, about a quarter of the number in the free states. And Lee repeatedly launched attacks that cost him huge numbers of men; his 1862 invasion of Maryland was a bloody disaster he barely escaped from after Antietam, and Pickett’s Charge was an utter disaster Lee insisted on attempting.

Disagree with that assessment of Lee: his contemporaries (FWIW) widely regarded him as an outstanding military leader (even given the paucity of really competent commanders - Blue or Grey - in the ACW to set the bar by), and historians have generally given him props for doing as good as he did with the handicaps he had to work with. Manpower issues were only one of them: the Confederates had a number of structural disadvantages (inferior manufacturing capability, a crappy transportation infrastructure, minimized export capability, etc.) - the amazing thing was thought to be that Lee was able to do as good as he did.
Of course, as you point out, his record wasn’t spotless - few Civil War generals’ were: but overall, it was fairly successful. Aside from the collapse-and-surrender part, that is….

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:20:22am

re: #330 Dr. Matt

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FYI. Gillum is polling under 15% in every major poll. No major newspaper in the state has endorsed Gillum. Bernie is the only major national figure to endorse Gillum. In other words, Bernie is throwing his support behind a guy that has zero chance of winning the primary.

As the democratic party continues to feel the bern…so glad he was allowed to run as a dem.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:21:28am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

Green candidate? Or the actual Dem candidate? Is the primary still upcoming?

He’s an actual Democratic candidate. The primary is August 28th.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:25:43am

re: #335 MsJ

As the democratic party continues to feel the bern…so glad he was allowed to run as a dem.

And on further reflection, why the fuck is Bernie sticking his nose into a primary election…..in Florida of all places?? Seriously, he is literally trying to stir up shit with Democrats. I am so sick of his bullshit.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:27:03am

re: #336 Dr. Matt

He’s an actual Democratic candidate. The primary is August 28th.

Wow, late primary.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:27:16am

re: #334 Jay C

Disagree with that assessment of Lee: his contemporaries (FWIW) widely regarded him as an outstanding military leader (even given the paucity of really competent commanders - Blue or Grey - in the ACW to set the bar by), and historians have generally given him props for doing as good as he did with the handicaps he had to work with. Manpower issues were only one of them: the Confederates had a number of structural disadvantages (inferior manufacturing capability, a crappy transportation infrastructure, minimized export capability, etc.) - the amazing thing was thought to be that Lee was able to do as good as he did.
Of course, as you point out, his record wasn’t spotless - few Civil War generals’ were: but overall, it was fairly successful. Aside from the collapse-and-surrender but, that is….

I respect your take.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:30:48am

re: #337 Dr. Matt

And on further reflection, why the fuck is Bernie sticking his nose into a primary election…..in Florida of all places?? Seriously, he is literally trying to stir up shit with Democrats. I am so sick of his bullshit.

My initial thought after hearing this endorsement of a low performing candidate was that he’s going to argue that the Democratic party doesn’t support the progressive agenda he’s putting forth (the one he keeps stealing from Democrats).

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William Lewis  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:32:17am

re: #332 Big Beautiful Door

Meade was good, but he didn’t have Grant’s drive. He just sat there after Gettysburg and let Lee slink back to Virginia to regroup. During Grant’s 1864 campaign in Virgina, he never let up until he pushed Lee all the way back into Richmond and Petersburg.

If he’d tried to push, he understood that the army would collapse and Lee would be given a second chance. No, I think he made the right choice. Grant commanded a very different army in 1864 than the very battered one Meade had in 1863.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:35:09am

re: #341 William Lewis

If he’d tried to push, he understood that the army would collapse and Lee would be given a second chance. No, I think he made the right choice. Grant commanded a very different army in 1864 than the very battered one Meade had in 1863.

OK, I still think Grant was a cut above, however. And Meade made a disastrous decision based on racism that led to the disaster at the crater battle in Petersburg which could’ve ended the siege there early.

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Jay C  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:38:12am

re: #340 Belafon

My initial thought after hearing this endorsement of a low performing candidate was that he’s going to argue that the Democratic party doesn’t support the progressive agenda he’s putting forth (the one he keeps stealing from Democrats).

And which will also have the additional “benefit” (to Bernie, anyway) of keeping his name in the papers and the blogs as the Great Lefty Hope, bravely battling the “Party Establishment”: never mind that said Establishment is generally supportive of the majority of his positions, (his not being in the Party notwithstanding).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:39:19am

re: #343 Jay C

And which will also have the additional “benefit” (to Bernie, anyway) of keeping his name in the papers and the blogs as the Great Lefty Hope, bravely battling the “Party Establishment”: never mind that said Establishment is generally supportive of the majority of his positions, (his not being in the Party notwithstanding).

He is absolute ratfucking bait for those who want to undermine the Dems in a most Machiavellian way

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:41:21am
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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:46:04am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:46:14am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:48:12am

re: #288 MsJ

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:52:30am

re: #348 Joe Bacon 🌹

n light of all the political correctness and leftist hysteria, I’m curious about what you think: How should Robert E. Lee be remembered?

This is the sort of question that calls for a nuanced answer, and nuance died a long time ago.

One could point out that he was sincere in his belief that his cause was just and he was honorable in the way he defended it. He was offered the position of Supreme Commander of Union Forces and turned it down only after long deliberation and soul-searching.

But then one would also have to point out that history has shown that his cause was based on human oppression, and despite his honorable intentions, he did great harm to his nation by fighting against it.

But do not try to explain that to a guy in a pickup truck with a gun rack and Confederate battle flag waving proudly…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:54:04am

re: #347 Patricia Kayden

The replies are priceless. This is the first one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:55:20am
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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 7:59:47am

Excellent win.
More info in the thread.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:01:18am

In Summary: Rand wanted Donnie to strip Brennan’s security clearance and wants Donnie to lift sanctions on Russian officials. Enough said.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:02:12am

re: #353 Dr. Matt

In Summary: Rand wanted Donnie to strip Brennan’s security clearance and wants to Donnie to lift sanctions on Russian officials. Enough said.

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Putin pulled somebody by their ding-a-ling…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:04:20am

FFS

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:05:09am

re: #304 JordanRules

Some more of that sweet, sweet projection.

Why do I think of Aerosmith when I read this comment???

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:05:51am

re: #353 Dr. Matt

In Summary: Rand wanted Donnie to strip Brennan’s security clearance and wants to Donnie to lift sanctions on Russian officials. Enough said.

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Rand is quite clearly a fifth-columnist. I wonder how much he was paid? Or is it ideological?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:06:43am

re: #322 JordanRules

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What a great read!

And stuff like this helps to redeem Twitter somewhat. Now if only Jack would grow a spine and suspend all the Nazis.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:07:10am

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

Rand is quite clearly a fifth-columnist. I wonder how much he was paid? Or is it ideological?

Criswell Bacon predicts it’s something jucier than just money or ideology…something about a red haired Russian agent and bondage…

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:07:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:09:45am

re: #359 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon predicts it’s something jucier than just money or ideology…something about a red haired Russian agent and bondage…

Heh…..I forgot about her.

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ericblair  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:10:04am

re: #353 Dr. Matt

In Summary: Rand wanted Donnie to strip Brennan’s security clearance and wants to Donnie to lift sanctions on Russian officials. Enough said.

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I’m pretty convinced that, as a long shot presidential candidate for a couple of cycles, the Russians took an interest in him and have him just as compromised as the yam.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:10:05am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

n light of all the political correctness and leftist hysteria, I’m curious about what you think: How should Robert E. Lee be remembered?

He can be read about in history books as someone who led the fight against the US nation and government—no need for any statues or buildings named for him.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:12:14am

re: #347 Patricia Kayden

I truly hate disloyal people

— Eric Trump

Didn’t realize Eric hated Robert E Lee.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:14:57am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

FFS

“How can there be an investigation if no one can look at the information? Fake Witch Hunt!” - Trump

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:16:44am

re: #360 lawhawk

A real president. And a gentleman (and scholar) to boot.

I miss him. 😢😫😰😭

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:16:50am

re: #350 Dr. Matt

He’s got daddy issues.

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William Lewis  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:17:23am

re: #358 Big Beautiful Door

And stuff like this helps to redeem Twitter somewhat. Now if only Jack would grow a spine and suspend all the Nazis.

He will never suspend his comrades in arms.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:18:59am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

FFS

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An article to help explain Trump’s obsession with Ohr, who I previously hadn’t heard of.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:22:36am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only guess that this has to do with people remembering what McConnell and the GOP did to Obama’s nominee.

Women.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:30:41am

re: #329 Big Beautiful Door

If Grant or Sherman had been in charge of the Army of the Potomac at Antietam, Lee would never have made it back to Virginia, and the War might’ve ended two years earlier. Again, not Lincoln’s fault.

Grant and Sherman…along with Sheridan. Ohio bad asses.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:31:30am

re: #324 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can only guess that this has to do with people remembering what McConnell and the GOP did to Obama’s nominee.

It could part that and part that Americans are finally waking up to fact that Donnie is actually a danger.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:33:30am

re: #373 Dr. Matt

It could part that and part that Americans are finally waking up to fact that Donnie is actually a danger.

The GOP could count on a rabid 30% to get out and vote for Trump come hell or high water. Then all they needed to do was to convince another 20% of the electorate to go along and they had the majority they needed and then some to spare.

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:34:26am

re: #374 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP could count on a rabid 30% to get out and vote for Trump come hell or high water. Then all they needed to do was to convince another 20% of the electorate to go along and they had the majority they needed and then some to spare.

They needed to get to 50% in a handful of locations to make that happen.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:34:46am

re: #343 Jay C

And which will also have the additional “benefit” (to Bernie, anyway) of keeping his name in the papers and the blogs as the Great Lefty Hope, bravely battling the “Party Establishment”: never mind that said Establishment is generally supportive of the majority of his positions, (his not being in the Party notwithstanding).

We have a winner!

It’s all about Bernie.

I think his ego rivals King Trump’s.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:35:09am
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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:35:58am

re: #374 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP could count on a rabid 30% to get out and vote for Trump come hell or high water. Then all they needed to do was to convince another 20% of the electorate to go along and they had the majority they needed and then some to spare.

Which is easier if the electorate stays small. OTOH, when people start paying attention, the electorate gets larger, and therefore it’s harder to get that 20% of the voters. It also means that the other number, what was 30%, drops as a ratio.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:38:46am

re: #284 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Religious Right also has its own agenda, which they put in place as soon as Ronald Reagan ditched them as soon as Nancy’s White House astrologer told her that the stars were right to do so: they have been insinuating their people into all levels of public life: government, public administration, education, the military, etc.

Mike Pence represents their ultimate triumph, a proper Fundamentalist theocrat a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

That’s a nice reminder that the White House has been full of idiots before. Trump/Omarosa has the awful reality-TV thing going, but ditching religious fanatics because an astrologer told you to is just as stupid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:39:42am

re: #375 lawhawk

They needed to get to 50% in a handful of locations to make that happen.

and they knew exactly where to concentrate their efforts, both legal and illegal; OH, MI WI and PA.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:39:51am

I think the perfect logo has been found

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:41:03am

re: #378 Belafon

Which is easier if the electorate stays small. OTOH, when people start paying attention, the electorate gets larger, and therefore it’s harder to get that 20% of the voters. It also means that the other number, what was 30%, drops as a ratio.

exactly. and if that 30% starts to saver or simply not get out and vote as a bloc, then they are also in trouble.

apathy and and indifference are the best forms of voter suppression…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:41:30am

re: #379 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

And the religious nuts still worship Reagan!

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:43:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:43:42am

re: #383 Joe Bacon 🌹

And the religious nuts still worship Reagan!

but again, they worship the rose-tinted-memories-of-Morning-in-America Reagan and not the real-life Reagan who was twice married and whose wife had a house astrologer determine his daily schedule…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:43:45am

My Congressional District, Ky-06, is on Nate Silver’s list of the 25 districts most likely to be the “tipping point” district giving the Democrats 218 seats in the midterms. Go Amy McGrath! I’ve already made a donation.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:45:02am

re: #377 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The Hill ✔
@thehill
Conway asks why White House reporters are “obsessed” with Trump hill.cm

11:28 AM - Aug 17, 2018

I think Kellyanne is growing tired. That is not her usual twisty take. In fact it is downright stupid.

Maybe that bit about her husband embarrassed her, if at all possible, and has her off her game.

It sure can’t be that everything is getting to her and weighing on her soul.

She doesn’t have one.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:46:00am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:47:05am

re: #387 ObserverArt

I think Kellyanne is growing tired. That is not her usual twisty take. In fact it is downright stupid.

Maybe that bit about her husband embarrassed her, if at all possible, and has her off her game.

It sure can’t be that everything is getting to her and weighing on her soul.

She doesn’t have one.

I think the Meth has addled her mind, more

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:47:57am

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and they knew exactly where to concentrate their efforts, both legal and illegal; OH, MI WI and PA.

All the rust belt states where he played on a hope that somehow the 50s were coming back. Add in some Russian bots on Facebook pumping up that return to glorious high-paying jobs and those states got played. Sure, a lot of it was their own doing…they bought false hope and tons of bullshit.

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Bass Reeves  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:50:39am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the sort of question that calls for a nuanced answer, and nuance died a long time ago.

One could point out that he was sincere in his belief that his cause was just and he was honorable in the way he defended it. He was offered the position of Supreme Commander of Union Forces and turned it down only after long deliberation and soul-searching.

One could point that out, but it would mostly be false. Ignoring the belief, that whole forcing black captives into slavery and refusing to trade them as prisoners isn’t exactly honorable. And he wasn’t offered the position of Supreme Commander, he was offered command of the national capital defense forces. But other than that, nuanced.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:51:05am

there is a video at the end of the thread

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:52:21am
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:53:00am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I think the Meth has addled her mind, more

DON’T GO BLAMING POOR, SWEET, INNOCENT METH!!!

Meth gets enough of a bad wrap without tying Kellyann and Ann Coulter to it!!

//

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:53:40am

re: #393 MsJ

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They’re trying to get rid of the post office, does that count?

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:56:06am

re: #377 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:57:10am

re: #395 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

They’re trying to get rid of the post office, does that count?

That’s not going to happen; how would they get donations from all those Fox News watching marks out in the sticks so they can pay hush money to porn stars and fired aides?

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 8:59:39am

Do Queen Bey and JZ have some kind of super powers?

They were performing last night in Ohio Stadium (home of the Ohio State Buckeye football team).

It rained yesterday almost all day long. Then just about the time the doors opened for the attendees to enter it started to calm down. By 7 PM it was actually brightening up a bit. It did not rain at all until probably 11:30 or later and then overnight it stormed like all get out with lightening and wind, etc.

They got the show in and the fans stayed dry. Amazing.

By the way…27 trucks of stage and PA equipment with 247 stage hands to set it all up. Damn, just setting up the stage must costs a ton. Big time!

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:03:31am

re: #398 ObserverArt

Do Queen Bey and JZ have some kind of super powers?

They were performing last night in Ohio Stadium (home of the Ohio State Buckeye football team).

It rained yesterday almost all day long. Then just about the time the doors opened for the attendees to enter it started to calm down. By 7 PM it was actually brightening up a bit. It did not rain at all until probably 11:30 or later and then overnight it stormed like all get out with lightening and wind, etc.

They got the show in and the fans stayed dry. Amazing.

By the way…27 trucks of stage and PA equipment with 247 stage hands to set it all up. Damn, just setting up the stage must costs a ton. Big time!

God wanted to see the show.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:04:17am

Rule of law is for losers.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:06:19am

re: #400 MsJ

Rule of law is for losers.

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Why do they go after good people just for lying to evade taxes on the millions of dollars they’ve earned overseas helping corrupt, Russia backed politicians?

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:06:41am

re: #398 ObserverArt

Oh wow! I bet the concert goers were so happy.
The weather got in formation!
This reminded me, I need to look and see if they did any Aretha tribute.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:08:32am

re: #400 MsJ

Manafort happens to be a “good person,” Trump tells the press this morning before flying to Hamptons.

Trump being an outstanding judge of good persons. Just look at the other people he has hired.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:10:12am

re: #403 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump being an outstanding judge of good persons. Just look at the other people he has hired.

Just wait until Trump finds out Manafort has tapes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:10:24am

re: #400 MsJ

Rule of law is for losers.

“…He worked for me for a very short period of time…”
(bus undercarriage, meet Manafort)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:12:24am

He will have to pardon Manafort if only to preserve the narrative of an unjust and partisan witch hunt.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:12:27am
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mmmirele  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:12:36am

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

The Religious Right are the foot soldiers of the GOP. The billionaires supply the money, but the GOP still needs volunteers and, critically voters, since money still can’t vote. The GOP has to run on culture wars, because very few people are going to vote for more tax cuts for billionaires, and the GOP has no positive agenda to help anyone who isn’t in the top 1%.

This is so very true with all the craziness around Andrew Brunson, the pastor who has been incarcerated in Turkey. Now I think the Erdogan regime is crazy, thinking that this pastor would collude with both the Gulenists and the Kurds, but Trump’s (and Pence’s and Pompeo’s and Mnuchin’s) reactions are way out of proportion to what’s going on here. It’s because Brunson has become a symbol of their culture war.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:14:12am

Tribute to Aretha. As weird as Ariana Grande is sometimes, her voice gives me chills. Amazing. So good.

Ariana Grande and The Roots Perform “Natural Woman” in Tribute to Aretha Franklin

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electrotek  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:16:12am

re: #409 MsJ

Tribute to Aretha. As weird as Ariana Grande is sometimes, her voice gives me chills. Amazing. So good.

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I did see her perform in Japan 3 years ago, while waiting for The Chemical Brothers to get on stage after she was done for a music festival in Tokyo called Summer Sonic. Her music isn’t my cup of tea (because I’m not into pop to begin with), but she is a very capable performer.

Her decision to pay for the funeral costs of all of her fans who were brutally slaughtered by a scumbag in Manchester earned my respect for an entire lifetime.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:19:50am

re: #402 JordanRules

Oh wow! I bet the concert goers were so happy.
The weather got in formation!
This reminded me, I need to look and see if they did any Aretha tribute.

The opening. That is a hell of a PA system if it has that much oomph over a phone.

OTR II Opening - Columbus, Ohio (8/16/18) [Beyoncé & JAY-Z]

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:21:18am

This shit again

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:21:19am

re: #408 mmmirele

This is so very true with all the craziness around Andrew Brunson, the pastor who has been incarcerated in Turkey. Now I think the Erdogan regime is crazy, thinking that this pastor would collude with both the Gulenists and the Kurds, but Trump’s (and Pence’s and Pompeo’s and Mnuchin’s) reactions are way out of proportion to what’s going on here. It’s because Brunson has become a symbol of their culture war.

Nothing plays better to the base than a Christian being persecuted by evil Mooslims

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:21:53am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:22:24am

I’m not having it today apparently.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:24:08am

re: #405 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“…He worked for me for a very short period of time…”
(bus undercarriage, meet Manafort)

ABC News Politics ✔
@ABCPolitics
NEW: “I think the whole Manafort trial is very sad,” Pres. Trump says. “I think it’s a very sad day for our country.”

“He happens to be a very good person, and I think it’s very sad what they’ve done to Paul Manafort.” abcn.ws

11:09 AM - Aug 17, 2018

Shut the fuck up you piece of lawless garbage.

I think what you have done and are doing to this country is a sad day for all. And I hope “they” fuck you up.

God, I hate that man.

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:24:26am

re: #316 William Lewis

Lee killed my great-great-grandfather through his disastrous order for Pickett’s charge. His daughter had my GF in 1873. Always made “Who was president when your GF was born” fun in my HS history classes in the mid-1980s. That part of the family was from central/eastern North Carolina. My GM’s side came from the mountains and her relatives fought for the Union N.C. forces that had been based in Eastern Tennessee. The mountain folk had little interest in the Confederacy and basically used the war to settle long-running feuds.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:25:51am

re: #408 mmmirele

This is so very true with all the craziness around Andrew Brunson, the pastor who has been incarcerated in Turkey. Now I think the Erdogan regime is crazy, thinking that this pastor would collude with both the Gulenists and the Kurds, but Trump’s (and Pence’s and Pompeo’s and Mnuchin’s) reactions are way out of proportion to what’s going on here. It’s because Brunson has become a symbol of their culture war.

Exactly. Trump’s foreign policy, to the extent its not about being the opposite of Obama, is designed to pander to the base.

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electrotek  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:27:55am

re: #281 Big Beautiful Door

The Religious Right are the foot soldiers of the GOP. The billionaires supply the money, but the GOP still needs volunteers and, critically voters, since money still can’t vote. The GOP has to run on culture wars, because very few people are going to vote for more tax cuts for billionaires, and the GOP has no positive agenda to help anyone who isn’t in the top 1%.

Is there any difference between Erdogan fanboys smashing iPhones in protest vs. Sean Hannity fans destroying coffee machines?

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:28:19am
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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:31:56am

re: #415 goddamnedfrank

I’m not having it today apparently.

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So glad that Andrew Cuomo shot himself in the foot before the start of primary season.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:31:57am

re: #415 goddamnedfrank

I’m not having it today apparently.

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To be historically nit picky, my understanding is that the Pyramids were built by skilled craftsmen, not slave labor. But your point about the U.S. is accurate.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:32:59am

re: #421 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

So glad that Andrew Cuomo shot himself in the foot before the start of primary season.

He “chocked.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:33:14am

re: #422 Big Beautiful Door

To be historically nit picky, my understanding is that the Pyramids were built by skilled craftsmen, not slave labor. But your point about the U.S. is accurate.

There are many things about America that we can call great and be proud of. But we are a nation made up of humans, who are fallible. there are other things about America that are not so great.

What makes a nation truly great is its ability to learn and grow.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:35:13am

re: #424 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are many things about America that we can call great and be proud of. But we are a nation made up of humans, who are fallible. there are other things about America that are not so great.

What makes a nation truly great is its ability to learn and grow.

We’ll find out in November if we’ve learned anything the last couple of years.

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plansbandc  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:39:01am

re: #420 JordanRules

That’s because the people who owe thousands owe it to the people who owe millions. And the people who owe millions are fine respected captains of industry.

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:40:55am

re: #421 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

So glad that Andrew Cuomo shot himself in the foot before the start of primary season.

It will have no effect on the outcome of the primary.

He’s on pace to handily win against Nixon. I have to give credit to Nixon to get Cuomo thinking about issues he’s long overlooked.

He’s got serious flaws - both in his signature issue of infrastructure, and on some other policies. Sticking with just infrastructure, he runs the MTA with an iron fist, and the failure to control construction costs means we are spending far more for transit upgrades than we should expect. It costs several times more to build subways in NYC than anywhere else in the world. It’s not about complexity underground either - because Paris and London are older than NYC and yet their rail projects cost less than half per km rail built. Get our costs in line with European average and we could build more than 2x as much - get 2A subway done in a fraction of the time.

Instead of working with DeBlasio - they’re attacking and undermining each other at the same time - paddling against each other when the city needs them to work together to get transit working.

His fixation on bridges and car travel has meant that we lost opportunity to do mass transit on the TZ Bridge (and I wont call it the Cuomo bridge either, and that’s as a fan of Mario). He also fudged the numbers to get that bridge built and we still don’t have a clear picture of how it will be paid back.

Then there’s the ongoing pension mess and rampant corruption across the legislature.

He could help there as well - but wont. He should be calling for a full time legislature that doesn’t allow any outside work, but it’s going nowhere.

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:42:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:42:12am

re: #426 plansbandc

That’s because the people who owe thousands owe it to the people who owe millions. And the people who owe millions are fine respected captains of industry.

I am no Marxist but he understood that after a certain degree of concentration, capital is no longer identical with private property. If you are Too Big to Fail, you are Too Big to be Unregulated.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:42:20am

re: #426 plansbandc

That’s because the people who owe thousands owe it to the people who owe millions. And the people who owe millions are fine respected captains of industry.

The millionaires do owe us too tho. Everything they set up is to avoid paying their fair share.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:44:28am

re: #424 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are many things about America that we can call great and be proud of. But we are a nation made up of humans, who are fallible. there are other things about America that are not so great.

What makes a nation truly great is its ability to learn and grow.

our nation’s past is exclusionary and evolutionary.
especially w/r/t slavery, women, the poor and underprivledged.
there is no point in time to which we can look back and get any kind of universal agreement that yes, this was when america was great

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:44:52am

I am fucking dead from all the tea, Sarah Kendzior liked this gossipy ass tweet of mine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:46:01am

re: #432 goddamnedfrank

I am fucking dead from all the tea, Sarah Kendzior liked this gossipy ass tweet of mine.

I have a terrible crush on Sarah Kendzior, my fantasies involve sitting up with her in bed and discussing politics…

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:46:03am

re: #426 plansbandc

That’s because the people who owe thousands owe it to the people who owe millions. And the people who owe millions are fine respected captains of industry.

the people who borrow and owe thousands are lazy, incompetent, cant manage their money etc

the people who borrow and owe millions just filled out a couple of forms incorrectly

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:48:04am

re: #415 goddamnedfrank

I’m not having it today apparently.

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I’m in a mood too.

Like how is this different from every other country and people? Silly.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:50:54am

re: #431 dangerman

our nation’s past is exclusionary and evolutionary.
especially w/r/t slavery, women, the poor and underprivledged.
there is no point in time to which we can look back and get any kind of universal agreement that yes, this was when america was great

I didn’t understand the dust-up over Cuomo’s comment. It was a set-up line and people groaned and moaned before he could get to the punch line.

I think America has always tried to be great, but we are humans so we fail. But we try, and try, and that is great effort.

Trump certainly is not making it great. And Cuomo was speaking for women and people of color. I bet they understood the setup line from the get go.

But it is all a part of the times. Everyone is quick to pounce. It makes it tough to get a message out sometimes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:52:23am

re: #431 dangerman

our nation’s past is exclusionary and evolutionary.
especially w/r/t slavery, women, the poor and underprivledged.
there is no point in time to which we can look back and get any kind of universal agreement that yes, this was when america was great

We had some great moments and accomplished some great things, like giving a new home and a new start to millions of dispossessed and poor people from all over the world.

And we gave the world jazz, blues and rock and roll.

For that, we fucked up an awful lot of lives.

If we fail to recognize those shortcomings and learn from them, we cannot call ourselves a Great Nation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:54:46am

re: #392 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

there is a video at the end of the thread

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that cat has a thumb

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 9:55:58am

re: #427 lawhawk

It will have no effect on the outcome of the primary.

He’s on pace to handily win against Nixon. I have to give credit to Nixon to get Cuomo thinking about issues he’s long overlooked.

He’s got serious flaws - both in his signature issue of infrastructure, and on some other policies. Sticking with just infrastructure, he runs the MTA with an iron fist, and the failure to control construction costs means we are spending far more for transit upgrades than we should expect. It costs several times more to build subways in NYC than anywhere else in the world. It’s not about complexity underground either - because Paris and London are older than NYC and yet their rail projects cost less than half per km rail built. Get our costs in line with European average and we could build more than 2x as much - get 2A subway done in a fraction of the time.

Instead of working with DeBlasio - they’re attacking and undermining each other at the same time - paddling against each other when the city needs them to work together to get transit working.

His fixation on bridges and car travel has meant that we lost opportunity to do mass transit on the TZ Bridge (and I wont call it the Cuomo bridge either, and that’s as a fan of Mario). He also fudged the numbers to get that bridge built and we still don’t have a clear picture of how it will be paid back.

Then there’s the ongoing pension mess and rampant corruption across the legislature.

He could help there as well - but wont. He should be calling for a full time legislature that doesn’t allow any outside work, but it’s going nowhere.

I was referring to the presidential primary season, what a mess he’s made of your state.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:00:12am

re: #422 Big Beautiful Door

To be historically nit picky, my understanding is that the Pyramids were built by skilled craftsmen, not slave labor. But your point about the U.S. is accurate.

That was my understanding as well. The workers were being paid, or had volunteered their labor. The slave labor concept has pretty much been abandoned by Egyptologists.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:11:10am

re: #440 wheat-dogg

That was my understanding as well. The workers were being paid, or had volunteered their labor. The slave labor concept has pretty much been abandoned by Egyptologists.

The Egyptians used their slaves for unskilled labor.

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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:12:39am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

that cat has a thumb

Extra toes. Probably some more extra things inside.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:12:42am

re: #436 ObserverArt

I didn’t understand the dust-up over Cuomo’s comment. It was a set-up line and people groaned and moaned before he could get to the punch line.

I think America has always tried to be great, but we are humans so we fail. But we try, and try, and that is great effort.

Trump certainly is not making it great. And Cuomo was speaking for women and people of color. I bet they understood the setup line from the get go.

But it is all a part of the times. Everyone is quick to pounce. It makes it tough to get a message out sometimes.

i didnt either - in context

unfortunately, these days, it will be cut, cropped and ripped from its context

then repeated and repeated ad nauseum to hammer a point the governor was never making

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wheat-dogg  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:14:12am

re: #441 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Egyptians used their slaves for unskilled labor.

Probably for hauling the blocks, not for shaping and fitting them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:14:18am
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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:18:05am

in retrospect, “maga” was a brilliant bit of marketing

the proof is in that it has stuck

it’s short, pithy and easy to remember
it forms a sort of word
it harks back to a mythical and unspecific time and so can mean anything to anyone
therefore looking forward, it can aspire to whatever anyone wants it to mean

the one thing they did right well

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:19:47am

re: #443 dangerman

i didnt either - in context

unfortunately, these days, it will be cut, cropped and ripped from its context

then repeated and repeated ad nauseum to hammer a point the governor was never making

No doubt. That is how you create controversy…edit to get what you want.

I bet Fox uses it all the time in that manner. It’s like Jimmy O’Keefe is head of editing.

And like I said, people pounce too quickly which is the exact reason the editing you speak of works.

It is just like reading only the headlines and first juicy paragraph in a written piece. No one ever gets to the actual story…they already fainted or went in to a rage.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:22:15am

The stupid. It burns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:25:38am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:26:00am
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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:31:24am

re: #450 goddamnedfrank

I suspect Tim Scott isn’t racist, and he doesn’t get very many benefits from the GOP being racist, so I’ll give them that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:31:25am

re: #448 MsJ

The stupid. It burns.

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For people who tout their love of and proficiency with guns, they sure have a special talent for shooting themselves in the foot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:31:59am

another twitter story thread…another good one!

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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:32:38am

re: #276 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Trump’s busy backtracking and lying his ass off (I know, it’s a day ending in Y).

He’s got to do something to avoid getting Omaroasted (can’t take credit for that) with yet more tapes showing that after she got fired from the WH, the Trump campaign wanted her to work with the campaign for $15k a month to keep quiet.

Yeah, this is one huge grift and con. But she had the receipts. They’re all fucking corrupt.

But what’s the latest lies and backtracking?

It’s that the idiot’s idea of a parade turned out to cost nearly $100 million (or like 10x Trump’s claimed costs - which were still too damned high for a vanity show). He wants to blame DC for the costs, when the reality is that it takes a shit-ton of logistics and planning to get military assets and resources to appear in a parade. It undermines military readiness as assets are out of place should they be needed, and it diverts critical resources.

But Trump wants his vanity parade. The Pentagon punted, hoping they’ll never have to do it.

So Trump’s now claiming there’ll be a parade at Andrews and then another one in November in France to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the end of the War to End All Wars™. He’s such a buffoon that he thinks the parades are for him.

Even as he and the GOP shit all over veterans and are looking to gut health coverage and mental health coverage, he wants the money not spent on the parade to go buy planes.

The parade would cost about $100 million.

A brand new F-35 would cost: about $100 million. In other words, you might get a single plane (except acquisitions are paid for from different accounts than operations, like his idiotic parade). He doesn’t have a clue what anything costs, and then rails when the costs are high.

He’s a threat to the nation, and the GOP loves it because while Trump gets the attention, they’re busy gutting the safety net and undermining public health and the regulatory apparatus that keeps polluters in check, attempts to stop companies from screwing employees and customers, and protects people from predatory lenders.

Trump is having a very bad day. Three black women are stealing all his headlines.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:32:46am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:33:46am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

another twitter story thread…another good one!

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That was quite entertaining.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:34:36am

re: #450 goddamnedfrank

Not all republicans are racist. Just like not all democrars are evil, we have to stop demonizing eachother

This analogy is fucking idiotic on its face. Democrats are literally opposing and fighting against an evil GOP/Donnie agenda that nearly the entire planet and most of America can plainly recognize as such.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:34:55am

Judge says Trump campaign screwed up on wording of confidentiality agreements (to yahoo news)

A Manhattan judge issued a ruling on Thursday that thwarted the Trump campaign’s attempts to keep a lawsuit out of open court, with potential implications for the looming battle over fired Trump aide Omarosa Manigault Newman’s slow-motion revelations of her experiences in the Trump campaign and White House.
….
Bluth’s ruling became public today when Denson tweeted a copy of the order. It is notable because Denson is representing herself and still defeated the Trump campaign’s lawyers.

note the bold

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:35:15am

re: #451 Belafon

I suspect Tim Scott isn’t racist, and he doesn’t get very many benefits from the GOP being racist, so I’ll give them that.

Sure he does, he gets elected by virtue of being their token black Senator. So he’s either in category 2 or 3 depending on how self aware he is of his situation.

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:36:11am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

another twitter story thread…another good one!

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Good indeed. Thanks.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:36:36am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

another twitter story thread…another good one!

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Quite a day for bus-related stories. I really wish my city had better public transit options.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:37:29am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

another twitter story thread…another good one!

Hahahahaa///comments to tweet…

Martin Flynn
@Mflynn7491

Replying to @ericacbarnett
May I just ask why it was important to point out that the dude was white?

Anne Jenner
@humminganne

Facts are facts, Martin. Deal with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:38:29am
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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:39:22am
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:40:20am
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:41:39am

re: #257 Kragar

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Perhaps sensible folk can stop going on Tucker’s show since we all know dang well that he’s not conducting interviews in good faith.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:42:21am

re: #462 ObserverArt

Hahahahaa///comments to tweet…

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:42:39am

re: #464 lawhawk

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Lol! She’s such an idiot. Words fail me.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:43:17am

JFC

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:45:02am
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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:46:00am

re: #465 goddamnedfrank

WTF did I just see?!?

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Video

Looks fun!

The Muppets break out…

…or, the complete breakdown of America.

Just what the god-bothering, pulpit pimps were warning everyone would happen.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:48:27am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

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Yep that’s the message the Church wants out there: Our Priests don’t actually penetrate your children when molesting them!

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:49:35am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

Catholic League President Bill Donohue defends pedofile priests by saying “It’s not rape if there’s no penetration” and that the boys were pubescent. Piece of Shit

fine. shall we just call it felony molestation then?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:49:49am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

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What the everloving fuck?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:49:57am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

“Hey, those pubescent boys and girls were no angels.”

/

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:50:30am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

Donohue is just absolute garbage. This is a totally predictable response from him.

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dangerman  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:50:31am

re: #472 Big Beautiful Door

Yep that’s the message the Church wants out there: Our Priests don’t actually penetrate your children when molesting them!

what the eff is wrong with these people?

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:50:36am

re: #454 wrenchwench

Trump is having a very bad day. Three black women are stealing all his headlines.

Glorious!

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:51:37am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

So, we’ve got one church group claiming that the critics are a bunch of boys.
Now we’ve got the same defending the pedophiles that they aren’t rapists because they didn’t penetrate the children.

These people are sick fucks. And I’m all out of fucks to give. End the Church’s tax exemptions. They’ve lost the privilege of riding along on the backs of all other taxpayers and their so called public good has turned out to be a mirage.

UPDATE:
Found the tweet that was behind the first sentence - it’s the same group - the Catholic League.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:51:40am
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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:54:58am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

God damn that comment.

And they get all hard ass on abortion, then excuse their pedophilia.

Corrupt arrogance and hurting your people in the name of a religion.

12 years the Catholic school kid…and this crap is just so disgusting. I no longer practice because there was just too much of this going on.

I had a school friend that went into the priesthood after 8th grade that fell out after a few years and became an atheist. Much of it due to what he saw, especially alcoholism in the seminary where it appears they are trained.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:55:06am

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

The bull ring one - Jesus. Not once, but TWICE!!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:55:30am

re: #469 goddamnedfrank

JFC

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The “Catholic League” is a bullshit org. It’s nothing more Bill Donohue and a couple staffers. It has no real standing in the Catholic Church and most Catholics do not even know it exists (coming from a Catholic family).

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jaunte  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:58:03am
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Kragar  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:58:09am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:58:47am

re: #477 dangerman

what the eff is wrong with these people?

Pope forgives molested children.

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wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:59:22am

re: #483 Dr. Matt

The “Catholic LeagueChurch is a bullshit org.

Fixed that for me. I’m also from a Catholic family. I left the church, then I left the family. The bullshit was unrelated in those two.

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jaunte  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:59:23am

re: #485 Kragar

the judge ruled that Denton’s harassment claim was not subject to out-of-court arbitration under the agreement

Can haz discovery?

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lawhawk  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:59:35am
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Mike Lamb  Aug 17, 2018 • 10:59:36am

re: #448 MsJ

The stupid. It burns.

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How is that not a 1st Amendment violation?

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:00:51am

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bull says, “Yes, fuck that guy specifically!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:02:50am

re: #487 wrenchwench

Fixed that for me. I’m also from a Catholic family. I left the church, then I left the family. The bullshit was unrelated in those two.

I think the Catholic Church is a prime example of an organization that lost sight of its mission because it was too concerned with its corporate existence.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:03:01am

re: #482 Blind Frog Belly White

The bull ring one - Jesus. Not once, but TWICE!!

And it was hard to tell, but he may have gotten gored when on the ground. It looked like the bull put its head down right into the idiot’s side. Might be why it was cut right then too. Those bull herder guys looked pretty panicked.

Alcohol involved?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:03:04am

re: #488 jaunte

Can haz discovery?

Yes! Unless they settle to avoid it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:03:54am

re: #490 Mike Lamb

How is that not a 1st Amendment violation?

It probably is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:04:03am

AOCDS.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:05:18am

re: #496 Blind Frog Belly White

AOCDS.

Pretty amazing how she’s gotten so under their skin so quickly.

And of course almost nobody knows who Madura is, or AOC for that matter. But I guess she’s their new devil.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:05:36am

re: #491 Eventual Carrion

Bull says, “Yes, fuck that guy specifically!”

“Wait - that guy’s STILL not paying attention to me? Well, let’s see him ignore me after THIS!!”

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:05:51am

re: #489 lawhawk

Judge says Trump campaign messed up on wording of confidentiality deals

Those guys can’t do anything right.

I am sure they copy and pasted the confidentiality deals from someone else anyways but they didn’t even lift a good one.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:06:38am

re: #496 Blind Frog Belly White

AOCDS.

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Why?

Maduro won’t debate little Ben either?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:07:35am

re: #496 Blind Frog Belly White

AOCDS.

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She’s the perfect trifecta to activate the rage of of Fox News viewers: Hispanic, young and female. I’m sure on many rightwing boards they are already posting rape fantasies about her.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:08:16am

re: #497 Sir John Barron

Pretty amazing how she’s gotten so under their skin so quickly.

And of course almost nobody knows who Madura is, or AOC for that matter. But I guess she’s their new devil.

She’s brown and uppity. ‘merica’s got too many of “them” already.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:08:47am

re: #499 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

Those guys can’t do anything right.

I am sure they copy and pasted the confidentiality deals from someone else anyways but they didn’t even lift a good one.

A Michael Cohen document, maybe?

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:10:25am

re: #503 Big Beautiful Door

A Michael Cohen document, maybe?

Michael was better at winking and nodding than writing up legal documents.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:10:38am

re: #489 lawhawk

Well, the judges and other lawyer elites weren’t supposed to see these anyway, they were just to keep the employed cult members in line.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:11:18am

re: #499 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

Those guys can’t do anything right.

I am sure they copy and pasted the confidentiality deals from someone else anyways but they didn’t even lift a good one.

Generic Word document they downloaded off the ‘net from Lawyers-R-Us website.

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b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:11:36am

re: #505 Sir John Barron

Well, the judges and other lawyer elites weren’t supposed to see these anyway, they were just to keep the employed cult members in line.

Trump probably dictated them based upon an old Barnaby Jones episode he saw.

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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:14:48am

re: #504 b.d.(great patriot hostage)

Michael was better at winking and nodding than writing up legal documents.

Someone on MSNBC mentioned “Says Who” Cohen last night and pointed out how he has been rather quiet the last few weeks.

They thought that was a real bad sign for Trump and gang.

They believe he is really working with Mueller and the Feds now, as they probably told him to stay out of the news and talk only to them from now on.

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electrotek  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:14:55am

re: #481 ObserverArt

God damn that comment.

And they get all hard ass on abortion, then excuse their pedophilia.

Corrupt arrogance and hurting your people in the name of a religion.

12 years the Catholic school kid…and this crap is just so disgusting. I no longer practice because there was just too much of this going on.

I had a school friend that went into the priesthood after 8th grade that fell out after a few years and became an atheist. Much of it due to what he saw, especially alcoholism in the seminary where it appears they are trained.

Has Catholic chauvinist Gavin McInnes or Catholic terrorist-inspiring troglodyte Robert Spencer rush out to condemn this yet?

510
wrenchwench  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:15:36am

re: #492 Blind Frog Belly White

I think the Catholic Church is a prime example of an organization that lost sight of its mission because it was too concerned with its corporate existence.

That’s the nice version. I deleted a different version out of respect for those who still follow. Life is difficult, and I try not to berate anyone’s method of coping.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:21:05am

The type of crass, annoying bastard to invite himself to your house.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:21:18am

re: #444 wheat-dogg

Probably for hauling the blocks, not for shaping and fitting them.

Just like the Confederates used black slaves to dig ditches and haul supplies, not for fighting.

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electrotek  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:21:24am

re: #510 wrenchwench

That’s the nice version. I deleted a different version out of respect for those who still follow. Life is difficult, and I try not to berate anyone’s method of coping.

Yeah, we need to make an important distinction here: the actions of people do not represent a religion.

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JordanRules  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:22:46am

LOL
Stupid profile. Stupid people.

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Kragar  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:25:11am
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ObserverArt  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:25:30am

re: #514 JordanRules

LOL
Stupid profile. Stupid people.

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Strange people.

I get the feeling we only hear snippets.

That family puts the func in dysfunctional.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:26:02am

re: #480 Backwoods_Sleuth

Re: the first video, I spent 5 years in Costa Rica and witnessed this dumbassery firsthand on many occasions. There are no “clowns” whose job it is to distract the angry bull. That job falls to guys trying to prove they are macho and/or who drink enough to brave a round or two with the bull. I knew a guy (US ex-pat) who had done it years prior and was gored UP THE ASS by a bull. That was also the last time he drank. He was still having surgeries to repair the damage and scar tissue over a decade later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:27:37am
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Kragar  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:28:05am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:29:06am

re: #519 Kragar

Like when Obama wore that tan suit……

//

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:29:39am

re: #519 Kragar

We’ve come along way from WHEN CHARACTER WAS KING to WELL HES JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:29:48am
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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:30:42am

re: #519 Kragar

So, “he’s an asshole like the rest of us, or the rest of you” is that it?

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:30:53am

re: #519 Kragar

We all own golf courses, suites in towers with our names on them, and use gold toilets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:31:27am

Andy Barr is disgusting

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:32:18am

re: #511 JordanRules

The type of crass, annoying bastard to invite himself to your house.

“He’s just like the rest of us!!!!”

///

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:33:06am

re: #525 Backwoods_Sleuth

Andy Barr is disgusting

Or like the typical GOP member of congress.

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jaunte  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:34:40am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Trump private army. This is an extremely bad idea.

529
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:35:36am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:36:42am

re: #522 Backwoods_Sleuth

A bloviating buffoon chafing at the restrictions on his power in a constitutional republic hiring an army of mercs who answer only to him?

What could possibly go wrong?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:36:55am

re: #519 Kragar

I remember Falwell making this exact argument over and over during Obama’s two terms.

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jaunte  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:37:06am

Manafort Trial:

533
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:39:05am
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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:39:20am
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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:40:15am

re: #532 jaunte

Manafort Trial:

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If the judge actually said that, he’s dumber than I could have ever thought.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:40:17am

Donnie’s Nazis are obeying Dear Leader

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jaunte  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:42:04am

re: #535 MsJ

Seems a mite naive.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:42:09am

re: #535 MsJ

If the judge actually said that, he’s dumber than I could have ever thought.

The last line, in particular, you mean (about not realizing the level of public interest in the trial)?

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:42:10am

re: #536 Dr. Matt

Donnie’s Nazis are obeying Dear Leader

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If Manafort is convicted, those jurors definitely will need their privacy protected.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:44:19am

re: #534 MsJ

I gotta admit, when I think Eric Prince and mercs, I think if the scene in “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”, where Cap’s in the elevator in the Triskellion, and a bunch of black ops guys keep getting on.

“Before we start this, is there anyone who wants to get off?”

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MsJ  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:45:05am

re: #538 Sir John Barron

The last line, in particular, you mean (about not realizing the level of public interest in the trial)?

Yes.

Kinda stupid if you ask me.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:47:02am

re: #519 Kragar

The moral goalposts have sure been moved mighty far to accommodate the thrice-married, pussy-grabbing, Russian-colluding, justice obstructing White guy in the WH.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:47:04am

re: #538 Sir John Barron

The last line, in particular, you mean (about not realizing the level of public interest in the trial)?

The President’s Campaign Manager is being tried for enough financial crimes to die in jail at a ripe old age, but it’s not something most folks will care about…

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jaunte  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:48:50am

I’m just catching up to this Agent Orange vs. napalm story. It’s hard to keep up with the sheer quantity of Trump incompetence.

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Belafon  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:49:00am

re: #543 Blind Frog Belly White

The President’s Campaign Manager is being tried for enough financial crimes to die in jail at a ripe old age, but it’s not something most folks will care about…

This probably doesn’t help the judge, but I bet he’s never had a case that more than a couple of dozen people paid attention to. And since, for the most part, his courtroom is his world, the wider world out there probably has come as a bit of a shock.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 17, 2018 • 11:52:01am

re: #545 Belafon

This probably doesn’t help the judge, but I bet he’s never had a case that more than a couple of dozen people paid attention to. And since, for the most part, his courtroom is his world, the wider world out there probably has come as a bit of a shock.

Welcome to the party, pal.
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:02:07pm

re: #544 jaunte

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I’m just catching up to this Agent Orange vs. napalm story. It’s hard to keep up with the sheer quantity of Trump incompetence.

and he insists on surrounding himself with people every bit as incompetent as himself

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Jay C  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:06:49pm

re: #483 Dr. Matt

The “Catholic League” is a bullshit org. It’s nothing more Bill Donohue and a couple staffers. It has no real standing in the Catholic Church and most Catholics do not even know it exists (coming from a Catholic family).

Though you’re quite right about the bullshit, I’ve always wondered about the CL: Donohue always claims that they have “thousands” of members nationwide (all Good Catholics standing up in defense of the name of Holy Mother Church, of course) - but their actual membership numbers are pretty opaque. They (well, Bill Donohue, anyway) CAN be counted on to jump up and squawk at any hint of “anti-Catholic bias” anywhere: though how they think seeming to defend pedophile/abuser priests (and the coverups thus engendered) is going to improve the Church’s PR is a mystery….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:10:54pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 17, 2018 • 12:11:27pm

re: #547 Backwoods_Sleuth

and he insists on surrounding himself with people every bit as incompetent as himself

And even those people think of Trump as a “fucking idiot”.

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William Lewis  Aug 17, 2018 • 1:13:27pm

re: #465 goddamnedfrank

WTF did I just see?!?

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Video

That could be the best movie since Roger Rabbit.


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