In Which Donald Trump Confesses to a Criminal Conspiracy on Fox News

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This is the kind of stuff that gives Donald Trump’s attorneys migraine headaches, as he admits openly that he conspired with Michael Cohen to conceal hush money payments during his presidential campaign to the women he was sleeping with.

Remember that Trump originally denied knowing anything at all about these payments.

But to the point of his current lies, the fact that he made the payments himself and they didn’t go through his campaign is the crime. The payments should have been disclosed on his FEC forms, but instead Trump and Cohen conspired to hide them, and cooked up a phony invoice scheme to reimburse Cohen.

But I’m sure Robert Mueller appreciates it when Trump goes on Fox News and stupidly admits to criminal behavior.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:24:01pm
But to the point of his current lies, the fact that he made the payments himself and they didn’t go through his campaign is the crime. The payments should have been disclosed on his FEC forms, but instead Trump and Cohen conspired to hide them with a phony invoice scheme.

Not a crime, not illegal. Obama had campaign finance problem big money. Big lib Lawyer Alan Dershowitz says agrees I’m being framed by very bad people. WhataboutHillary? Emails many people say crime.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:25:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:28:04pm
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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:28:30pm

Trumpworld’s last remaining way to avoid prison right now is that the DOJ has a policy in place that indicates they should not indict a sitting president because it would undermine the capacity of the Office of the Executive.

The thing is - Trump is undermining the Office of the Executive through his very presence, and his being in that position is due to the crimes for which Trump has already admitted to doing.

Trump admits he broke federal campaign finance laws by hiding the payments, hiding the nature of the payments, and then lying about everything relating to the payments ever since.

Trump admits to lying about the June 2016 meeting with the Russian foreign agents, implicating everyone around him in his inner circle. Everyone in that meeting was engaging in criminal malfeasance and then Trump and his inner circle conspired to keep it secret.

All they have done since is lie, obfuscate, bully, and project like IMAX - Hillary did it first, and that’s a crime, but when I did it it wasn’t a crime.

Yeah, it’s crimes all the way down.

We’re also watching the spinoffs back to state law too start to come into play as the federal crimes have state analogues, so even if Trump moves to pardon his cronies, they’ll still be open to prosecution in the states.

Cohen’s allocution to multiple federal felonies as part of his plea deal shows how much trouble Trump is in on just that one aspect of his corrupt admin.

It’s time for the DOJ to revisit this policy - that when the crimes themselves go to how a person got to occupy the office in the first place, the general rule does not apply.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:28:52pm

I am not a lawyer, so why should those payments have been made through the campaign?

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calochortus  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:30:20pm

re: #5 Belafon

I am not a lawyer, so why should those payments have been made through the campaign?

I suspect it is simply a matter of Trump wanting someone else to pay for his sins.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:30:47pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:31:42pm

re: #4 lawhawk

Trumpworld’s last remaining way to avoid prison right now is that the DOJ has a policy in place that indicates they should not indict a sitting president because it would undermine the capacity of the Office of the Executive.

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The thing is - Trump is undermining the Office of the Executive through his very presence, and his being in that position is due to the crimes for which Trump has already admitted to doing.

Trump admits he broke federal campaign finance laws by hiding the payments, hiding the nature of the payments, and then lying about everything relating to the payments ever since.

Trump admits to lying about the June 2016 meeting with the Russian foreign agents, implicating everyone around him in his inner circle. Everyone in that meeting was engaging in criminal malfeasance and then Trump and his inner circle conspired to keep it secret.

All they have done since is lie, obfuscate, bully, and project like IMAX - Hillary did it first, and that’s a crime, but when I did it it wasn’t a crime.

Yeah, it’s crimes all the way down.

We’re also watching the spinoffs back to state law too start to come into play as the federal crimes have state analogues, so even if Trump moves to pardon his cronies, they’ll still be open to prosecution in the states.

Cohen’s allocution to multiple federal felonies as part of his plea deal shows how much trouble Trump is in on just that one aspect of his corrupt admin.

It’s time for the DOJ to revisit this policy - that when the crimes themselves go to how a person got to occupy the office in the first place, the general rule does not apply.

How awesome would it be to have someone waiting outside with handcuffs for him on 1/22/21?

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whitebeach  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:31:54pm

Immediately OT, but maybe not very:

I keep seeing what amount to campaign commercials for SC nominee Kavanaugh. Warm fuzzy testimonials etc., expect any day to see one of him petting a puppy.

Question is, since when have there been commercials for Supreme Court nominees?

Fuck the swamp, it’s time to pump out the cesspool.

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calochortus  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:32:10pm

re: #7 austin_blue

I only regret that I have but one upding to give. That was my thought precisely.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:32:13pm
But to the point of his current lies, the fact that he made the payments himself and they didn’t go through his campaign is the crime. The payments should have been disclosed on his FEC forms, but instead Trump and Cohen conspired to hide them with a phony invoice scheme.

“Forget the myths the media’s created about the WH…the fact is, these are just not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:32:36pm
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Jay C  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:33:35pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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That Iowa lawyer’s comment, as related by the DMR, is sort of ambiguous: it doesn’t make it clear whether he is “sad and sorry” for Trump having weighed in, or whether Trump is “sad and sorry” for having done so.

However, it works either way…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:34:30pm

re: #5 Belafon

I am not a lawyer, so why should those payments have been made through the campaign?

I guess they’re considered a campaign expense, a payment to further the ends of the campaign? Can one of the lawyers here weigh in?

Funny thing is, how does one exactly legally report this on the FEC forms? “Yeah here’s the hush up money I dished out”.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:35:20pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The NCGOP hashtag is quite helpful.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:35:26pm

re: #10 calochortus

I only regret that I have but one upding to give. That was my thought precisely.

I went for the single frame. The entire comic was about AG John Mitchell. The strip was written in ‘73. Mitchell wasn’t convicted until ‘77.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:35:50pm

re: #14 Sir John Barron

I guess they’re considered a campaign expense, a payment to further the ends of the campaign? Can one of the lawyers here weigh in?

Funny thing is, how does one exactly legally report this on the FEC forms? “Yeah here’s the hush up money I dished out”.

“MIscellaneous Campaign Expenses”

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:36:26pm

re: #5 Belafon

I am not a lawyer, so why should those payments have been made through the campaign?

Because it was an expenditure made on behalf of the campaign. The whole point of the hush money payment was to protect Trump’s election chances; that makes it a campaign expenditure.

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:36:40pm
A wildcard: The composition of Congress could change radically after November’s midterm elections.

That’s from Judd Legum’s Popular.info e-newsletter, I have filed it under ‘duh’.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:36:43pm

re: #5 Belafon

I am not a lawyer, so why should those payments have been made through the campaign?

The campaign finance law requires that you must report campaign contributions in a timely fashion. You must report if the funds are being used to influence a campaign. Here, Trump made significant payments to McDougal and Daniels for the purpose of influencing the 2016 election outcome but never reported them.

Trump now claims that he personally made the payment, which doesn’t solve his problem - the crime was failing to report the payment in the first place.

Inadvertent errors are not the same as purposefully refusing to report. Obama being late to report within days isn’t the same as Trump being caught lying on his FEC filings (the lie being the omission of these payments).

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:36:47pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:36:53pm
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calochortus  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:36:54pm

re: #16 austin_blue

I went for the single frame. The entire comic was about AG John Mitchell. The strip was written in ‘73. Mitchell wasn’t convicted until ‘77.

I know. I’m old. But it is a classic.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:37:20pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

That’s from Judd Legum’s Popular.info e-newsletter, I have filed it under ‘duh’.

There’s a 100% chance that the composition of Congress will change after the midterms. /Nate Silver.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:37:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:40:40pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

So, how will the GOP respond?

1) Stop talking about Mollie Tibbet?

Or…

2) Start blaming ALL immigration, or at least all BROWN immigration?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:41:15pm

re: #20 lawhawk

The campaign finance law requires that you must report campaign contributions in a timely fashion. You must report if the funds are being used to influence a campaign. Here, Trump made significant payments to McDougal and Daniels for the purpose of influencing the 2016 election outcome but never reported them.

Trump now claims that he personally made the payment, which doesn’t solve his problem - the crime was failing to report the payment in the first place.

Inadvertent errors are not the same as purposefully refusing to report. Obama being late to report within days isn’t the same as Trump being caught lying on his FEC filings (the lie being the omission of these payments).

Right - and he didn’t just conceal the payments, he lied repeatedly about them and cooked up a phony invoice scheme to reimburse Cohen. And now he’s publicly admitting to the whole thing!

If this was a movie I would have switched the channel because it was too far-fetched.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:41:32pm

re: #21 Scottish Dragon

The statute in question has a public safety clause, which could be read broadly to allow the state to not re-erect it on campus because it poses a public safety threat.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:41:38pm
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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:42:31pm

How long until Trump claims that the hush money was paid not to influence the election, but to keep them from his wife?

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:42:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:43:03pm

Goalposts have been moved to hell and gone.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:43:28pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Right - and he didn’t just conceal the payments, he lied repeatedly about them and cooked up a phony invoice scheme to reimburse Cohen. And now he’s publicly admitting to the whole thing!

If this was a movie I would have switched the channel because it was too far-fetched.

And it turns out that this whole shitshow is absolutely fetched!

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:43:54pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Right - and he didn’t just conceal the payments, he lied repeatedly about them and cooked up a phony invoice scheme to reimburse Cohen. And now he’s publicly admitting to the whole thing!

If this was a movie I would have switched the channel because it was too far-fetched.

That was unbelievable. His ignorance of the law coupled with his arrogant loquacity is fucking nuts….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:44:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:44:25pm
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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:44:56pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

He can kill someone on Fifth Ave, but just make sure it’s not treason.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:45:34pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Goalposts have been moved to hell and gone.

So, which is it Matt? Are these all “legal” activities or “crimes” of which you don’t condone?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:46:23pm
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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:46:46pm

Hey Donald….

And Mueller and the SDNY are about to torpedo your ass….

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:47:05pm

re: #37 Belafon

He can kill someone on Fifth Ave, but just make sure it’s not treason.

Yup. That appears to be the bar, now.

“Support Trump! Never convicted of treason!”

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:47:12pm

re: #34 Scottish Dragon

That was unbelievable. His ignorance of the law coupled with his arrogant loquacity is fucking nuts….

A unique pairing. It works.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:48:13pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

So all this legal activity strange I see no “Russian collusion” in any breaking news. Odd.

— Matt Schlapp

Gosh, Schlapp has us all busted good right here. The porn star payoffs didn’t involve Russia. We’re totally owned now.

////

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:48:28pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:48:40pm
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sagehen  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:50:32pm

re: #9 whitebeach

Immediately OT, but maybe not very:

I keep seeing what amount to campaign commercials for SC nominee Kavanaugh. Warm fuzzy testimonials etc., expect any day to see one of him petting a puppy.

Question is, since when have there been commercials for Supreme Court nominees?

Fuck the swamp, it’s time to pump out the cesspool.

I’ve only seen one commercial, multiple times, from a woman who says she’s not into politics at all, she’s a teacher, but she’s been friends with him for 35 years and she likes him. Does that mean it’s a college buddy? Who knows nothing about lawyering or judging and is in no position to opine on his actual qualifications for the job?

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:53:34pm

re: #46 sagehen

I’ve only seen one commercial, multiple times, from a woman who says she’s not into politics at all, she’s a teacher, but she’s been friends with him for 35 years and she likes him. Does that mean it’s a college buddy? Who knows nothing about lawyering or judging and is in no position to opine on his actual qualifications for the job?

Thirty five years ago, Kavanaugh was indeed 18 years old.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:54:07pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

We pretty much know who everyone is, even though they’re not named:
Trump admin/campaign/company:
Allan Weisselberg
Trump
Junior and/or Ivanka

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:54:25pm

re: #46 sagehen

I’ve only seen one commercial, multiple times, from a woman who says she’s not into politics at all, she’s a teacher, but she’s been friends with him for 35 years and she likes him. Does that mean it’s a college buddy? Who knows nothing about lawyering or judging and is in no position to opine on his actual qualifications for the job?

Gosh, wow, what need have we of any other witnesses or information?

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:54:58pm

re: #37 Belafon

He can kill someone on Fifth Ave, but just make sure it’s not treason.

People will be lining up to explain how he had to do it to defend America against MS-13…

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:55:15pm

re: #48 lawhawk

We pretty much know who everyone is, even though they’re not named:
Trump admin/campaign/company:
Allan Weisselberg
Trump
Junior and/or Ivanka

Donnie was supposed to keep Michael, I mean Donny Jr, out of the family crime business.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:57:32pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 12:58:43pm

re: #18 Big Beautiful Door

Because it was an expenditure made on behalf of the campaign. The whole point of the hush money payment was to protect Trump’s election chances; that makes it a campaign expenditure.

Yep, it was a self made Catch 22 trap. He wanted to keep something secret to help the campaign which couldn’t legally be kept secret forever because it was 100% designed to help the campaign. Technically the campaign did not need to write the check to Stormy Daniels but Trump would have needed to declare the payment as a contribution to the FEC, which he deliberately didn’t do.

And it all unraveled because Trump refused to even sign the NDA, thinking that would further insulate him via plausible deniability. Instead it gave Daniel’s the grounds to challenge the NDA as void ab initio, which led to the discovery of Cohen’s correspondence, which led to the story blowing up, which led to Cohen declaring that he did this on his own with no input from Trump, which led to the SDNY search warrant on Cohen’s home and offices because it then looked like an illegal campaign contribution from Cohen, which inexplicably led to Team Trump releasing the taped conversation proving Trump did know about the Karen McDougal / AMI deal and was trying to buy the rights to her story, which led to where we are now with Cohen confessing that Trump ordered everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:00:04pm

There is a major pessimist in me that sees Trump being so blatant and egregious about his criminal involvement that he gets away with it and even remains in office.

He has turned every convention and expectation of politics and governance on its head, why not the notion that a criminal President should be forced from office?

I really hope I am as wrong about this as I was about the outcome of the 2016 elections…

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sagehen  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:00:12pm

hlappre: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Steve I know you want to get Trump out of office but this is the wrong way to do it. I don’t condone these crimes but they are not treason.

Lying about a blowjob also isn’t treason, but 20 years ago you sure as hell thought that was grounds to remove a president from office.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:00:27pm

re: #52 Dave In Austin

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:04:58pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:05:38pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Trump would have needed to declare the payment as a contribution to the SEC

Sorry, what does this mean? The SEC?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:06:22pm

re: #56 Scottish Dragon

Who’s his wife?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:06:53pm

Trump’s open mouth is a perjury trap.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:07:54pm

OMG these memes are brutal….

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:09:07pm

re: #59 Sir John Barron

Who’s his wife?

Mercedes Schlapp is an American lobbyist, and columnist. Since September 2017, she has served as White House Director of Strategic Communications.
en.wikipedia.org

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:09:52pm

re: #57 Scottish Dragon

Money quote:

This preposterous age of manic news cycles — Mr. Cohen’s admission came on the same day that Paul Manafort, the president’s former campaign chairman, was convicted of eight counts of tax and bank fraud — weekly bombshells and improbable politics has left us deadened to amazing developments. So let me repeat it for emphasis and for history: The president’s personal lawyer pleaded guilty to a federal crime and testified under oath that the president told him to do it.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:09:58pm

re: #58 Sir John Barron

Sorry, what does this mean? The SEC?

Typo, meant FEC. Federal Election Commission

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:11:52pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:12:58pm

Why is dim-witted racist cretin Tomi Lahren still a thing? It’s the Aryan factor. She could pass for one of the singers in a neo-Nazi punk band.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:13:43pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:16:09pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

which inexplicably led to Team Trump releasing the taped conversation proving Trump did know about the Karen McDougal / AMI deal and was trying to buy the rights to her story, which led to where we are now with Cohen confessing that Trump ordered everything.

P.S. The only plausible explanation I’ve heard for Giuliani et al waiving privilege and releasing that tape is that they didn’t want the special master explicitly ruling that it wasn’t privileged due to the crime / fraud exception. Still doesn’t really explain why they released it though, and I’m 100% convinced that it was them who released it. No way that Lanny Davis and Guy Patrillo would have let that shit out in the wild while they were still professionally obligated to serve Cohen’s best interests.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:16:21pm
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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:17:20pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

P.S. The only plausible explanation I’ve heard for Giuliani et al waiving privilege and releasing that tape is that they didn’t want the special master explicitly ruling that it wasn’t privileged due to the crime / fraud exception. Still doesn’t really explain why they released it though, and I’m 100% convinced that it was them who released it. No way that Lanny Davis and Guy Patrillo would have let that shit out in the wild while they were still professionally obligated to serve Cohen’s best interests.

The stupidity burns.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:18:32pm

Begun, the Trump Wars have…..

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:18:57pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

If Mr. Cohen has this great dirt, why hasn’t Mr. Mueller already locked him in with a cooperation agreement? Mr. Mueller is a cautious man; Mr. Cohen, manifestly, is not. If the special counsel enlisted Mr. Cohen formally, that agreement would come with all of his credibility problems and tendency to act impetuously. Now Mr. Cohen’s plea has thoroughly rattled the administration. Mr. Trump and his gaffe-prone lawyer Rudy Giuliani react badly to pressure and will likely respond with incriminating statements. And Mr. Mueller will no doubt be watching. This is what federal prosecutors do best: provoke foolish reactions.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:20:15pm
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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:23:35pm

re: #71 Scottish Dragon

NY AG Underwood has taken up the prosecution efforts against Trump’s scams.

Likely successor Zephyr Teachout (an awesome name, all things aside) is intent on doing the same, and would prosecute Trumpworld for crimes committed under NY law.

So yeah, Trump’s in real trouble.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:24:52pm

re: #73 Single-handed sailor

“Why is everyone wanting to hold the president to a standard they wouldn’t hold their crazy uncle to?” - Matt

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:27:04pm

Ha, but not really funny. This guy has always been/is SLIME. I totally expect him to try to throw his wife under the bus. I hope she’s got something redeemable in her to fight back. (Unknown & doubted)

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:27:04pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:27:43pm

re: #67 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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He’s right, he didn’t vote for a saint…he voted for a criminal. And he’s excusing it by arguing that criminal acts can be forgiven if the other party to the crime is a porn star.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:28:33pm

re: #4 lawhawk

Trumpworld’s last remaining way to avoid prison right now is that the DOJ has a policy in place that indicates they should not indict a sitting president because it would undermine the capacity of the Office of the Executive.

[Embedded content]

The thing is - Trump is undermining the Office of the Executive through his very presence, and his being in that position is due to the crimes for which Trump has already admitted to doing.

Trump admits he broke federal campaign finance laws by hiding the payments, hiding the nature of the payments, and then lying about everything relating to the payments ever since.

Trump admits to lying about the June 2016 meeting with the Russian foreign agents, implicating everyone around him in his inner circle. Everyone in that meeting was engaging in criminal malfeasance and then Trump and his inner circle conspired to keep it secret.

All they have done since is lie, obfuscate, bully, and project like IMAX - Hillary did it first, and that’s a crime, but when I did it it wasn’t a crime.

Yeah, it’s crimes all the way down.

We’re also watching the spinoffs back to state law too start to come into play as the federal crimes have state analogues, so even if Trump moves to pardon his cronies, they’ll still be open to prosecution in the states.

Cohen’s allocution to multiple federal felonies as part of his plea deal shows how much trouble Trump is in on just that one aspect of his corrupt admin.

It’s time for the DOJ to revisit this policy - that when the crimes themselves go to how a person got to occupy the office in the first place, the general rule does not apply.

That’s a dumb policy. If a president commits a crime, he/she should be indicted and tried like any other citizen. Otherwise, you will end up with a criminal running the country. Democrats need to work on this issue and change DOJ’s policy.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:28:36pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

Ha, but not really funny. This guy has always been/is SLIME. I totally expect him to try to throw his wife under the bus. I hope she’s got something redeemable in her to fight back. (Unknown & doubted)

“Spending campaign donations on personal stuff not a crime. Not illegal. People donate, I can do whatever with whatever money gullible people send me. TV ministers do it.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:28:50pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

How original

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:29:27pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:29:48pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

Ha, but not really funny. This guy has always been/is SLIME. I totally expect him to try to throw his wife under the bus. I hope she’s got something redeemable in her to fight back. (Unknown & doubted)

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He can keep screaming about witch hunts while he’s in jail. Works for me.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:30:07pm

re: #4 lawhawk

Trumpworld’s last remaining way to avoid prison right now is that the DOJ has a policy in place that indicates they should not indict a sitting president because it would undermine the capacity of the Office of the Executive.

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It’s time for the DOJ to revisit this policy - that when the crimes themselves go to how a person got to occupy the office in the first place, the general rule does not apply.

not
enough
updings

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:30:38pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

He’s right, he didn’t vote for a saint…he voted for a criminal. And he’s excusing it by arguing that criminal acts can be forgiven if the other party to the crime is a porn star.

Before and when Clinton was president, we were told that ‘Character Is Everything’.

Now? Meh.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:31:01pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

He’s right, he didn’t vote for a saint…he voted for a criminal. And he’s excusing it by arguing that criminal acts can be forgiven if the other party to the crime is a porn star.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:32:17pm

Witch-hunt and but Hillary LOL!

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:32:20pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Just talked one of Trump’s earliest supporters & true believers - very rattled - who’s been talking to big GOP donors. They want to support Trump. They tried hard to ignore all the noise. They can’t anymore. “They’re over it. This is not how a president comports himself.”

— Jeremy W. Peters

We’ve known this for a long time, since the beginning, but I welcome all later comers to reality anyway.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:33:16pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

Witch-hunt and but Hillary LOL!

If you prosecute Hunter, the terrorists win.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:33:24pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:33:31pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

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My standing policy: “I’ll believe it when I see it.”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:33:38pm

re: #88 Sir John Barron

We’ve known this for a long time, since the beginning, but I welcome all later comers to reality anyway.

It’s all about the tide turning.

Hope!

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:35:47pm

re: #85 Sir John Barron

Before and when Clinton was president, we were told that ‘Character Is Everything’.

Now? Meh.

We were told that even if Bill had not committed a crime, the fact that he’d been engaged in adultery was reason enough for his resignation because we should hold the president to a “higher standard.”

Now? We’re told that Donny could bang a stripper on the Resolute Desk and so long as he did so while signing a bill to outlaw China forever, these diehards would crawl on their bellies over hot coals and broken glass to defend him.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:35:57pm
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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:37:05pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

Goalposts have been moved to hell and gone.

So all this legal activity strange I see no “Russian collusion” in any breaking news. Odd.

hey matt:

the entire justice mechanism, federal, state, and local is capable of doing at least two things at once

it’s fine that you dont understand how manafort and cohen relate to russia

it’s also fine, and true that mueller goes to work every single day while these cases are going on. and you dont have a clue what mueller knows or is doing

when ‘russian collusion’ or conspiracy or whatever is finally laid out and open, even the slow ones like you will be able to follow along

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Interesting Times  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:37:21pm

Hey, remember that poll from a few months ago showing a majority of Americans didn’t realize the Mueller probe had uncovered crimes? Hopefully those numbers will shift now.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:37:33pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Kid Rock. Ted Nugent. Toby Keith. Merle Haggard. Stick to Country music.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:37:34pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:37:48pm

re: #9 whitebeach

He has a fucking campaign bus.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:37:56pm

Lost in yesterday’s avalanche of BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TY news was the tidbit that Larry Kudlow, Trump’s handpicked economic nitwit, was actually palling around with white supremacist Brimelow.

Yeah, how quickly we’re inundated with the dopeshow from Trump.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:38:23pm

re: #94 lawhawk

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Born on third base and convinced he hit a triple.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:38:25pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

Witch-hunt and but Hillary LOL!

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So…he doesn’t seem to understand how criminal investigations work…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:38:35pm
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:39:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:39:37pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:39:38pm

re: #100 lawhawk

Lost in yesterday’s avalanche of BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TY news was the tidbit that Larry Kudlow, Trump’s handpicked economic nitwit, was actually palling around with white supremacist Brimelow.

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Yeah, how quickly we’re inundated with the dopeshow from Trump.

He insists that he didn’t know that Brimelow went fully Conservative after they stopped working together.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:39:57pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Yep, it was a self made Catch 22 trap. He wanted to keep something secret to help the campaign which couldn’t legally be kept secret forever because it was 100% designed to help the campaign. Technically the campaign did not need to write the check to Stormy Daniels but Trump would have needed to declare the payment as a contribution to the FEC, which he deliberately didn’t do.

And it all unraveled because Trump refused to even sign the NDA, thinking that would further insulate him via plausible deniability. Instead it gave Daniel’s the grounds to challenge the NDA as void ab initio, which led to the discovery of Cohen’s correspondence, which led to the story blowing up, which led to Cohen declaring that he did this on his own with no input from Trump, which led to the SDNY search warrant on Cohen’s home and offices because it then looked like an illegal campaign contribution from Cohen, which inexplicably led to Team Trump releasing the taped conversation proving Trump did know about the Karen McDougal / AMI deal and was trying to buy the rights to her story, which led to where we are now with Cohen confessing that Trump ordered everything.

well summarized

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:40:28pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:40:32pm

At this point, you could just write a macro for “corrupt Republican” stories. All you need is to leave blank spaces for the name, the state, and the particular felonies he’s being indicted for.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:40:43pm

re: #61 Scottish Dragon

Is that Ptomaine Lobster?

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:41:43pm

re: #62 Scottish Dragon

Mercedes Schlapp is an American lobbyist, and columnist. Since September 2017, she has served as White House Director of Strategic Communications.
en.wikipedia.org

not very good at it, is she?

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:42:09pm

re: #108 Single-handed sailor

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“Party uber Allies.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:42:13pm

re: #111 dangerman

not very good at it, is she?

She has a terrible client, though. The worst.

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Scottish Dragon  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:42:15pm

re: #111 dangerman

not very good at it, is she?

Nope.

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whitebeach  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:42:35pm

re: #101 Targetpractice

Born on third base and convinced he hit a triple.

More like born on third base and convinced he hit a grand slam.

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:43:03pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

We were told that even if Bill had not committed a crime, the fact that he’d been engaged in adultery was reason enough for his resignation because we should hold the president to a “higher standard.”

Now? We’re told that Donny could bang a stripper on the Resolute Desk and so long as he did so while signing a bill to outlaw China forever, these diehards would crawl on their bellies over hot coals and broken glass to defend him.

While live on all news networks.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:43:03pm

re: #111 dangerman

Maybe she was the one who dug up the “witch hunt” messaging.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:44:30pm

re: #94 lawhawk

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
* 33m
Longest bull run in the history of the stock market, congratulations America!

lawhawk
@lawhawk
Thanks @BarackObama.

Trump inherits strong economy and thinks it’s entirely due to Trump himself.

It’s same way Trump inherited his real estate fortune and thinks he’s self made man.
3:35 PM - Aug 22, 2018

Yes, as noted in the NYT, Drumpf has presided over exactly 17% of that Bull Market, but treats it as, completely, his own.

Grifter. Criminal. Soon-to-be convict.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:44:46pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:44:54pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

Witch-hunt and but Hillary LOL!

“Name’s Francis but everybody calls me Psycho. I hate being called Francis. Anybody calls me Francis, I kill ya. And I don’t like anybody touchin my stuff. I catch anybody touching my stuff, I kill ya. And I don’t want any a you homos touching me. Any of yous touch me, I kill ya.”

“Alright, settle down, Francis.”

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:44:57pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

Ha, but not really funny. This guy has always been/is SLIME. I totally expect him to try to throw his wife under the bus. I hope she’s got something redeemable in her to fight back. (Unknown & doubted)

Rep. Duncan Hunter calls his prosecution a witch hunt

witch hunt my ass

47 page indictment
with receipts
and quotes

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:45:06pm

re: #115 whitebeach

More like born on third base and convinced he hit a grand slam.

Born on third base and thinks he invented baseball.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:45:50pm

re: #118 austin_blue

Two years ago you said the bull market was a ‘bubble’.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:46:01pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Born on third base and thinks he invented baseball.

Strikes out looking on three straight pitches and thinks he’s a Hall of Famer.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:46:13pm

Born on home plate, took a million dollar loan from Daddy, and started running the wrong way.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:46:22pm

re: #104 jaunte

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The “he pleaded guilty to something that isn’t even a crime!” take is just an especially hot one. The break from logic needed to believe that is stunning.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:07pm

re: #126 Mike Lamb

The “he pleaded guilty to something that isn’t even a crime!” take is just an especially hot one. The break from logic needed to believe that is stunning.

Truth isn’t truth, pleading guilty to something doesn’t mean there’s a crime.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:10pm
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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:13pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Just talked one of Trump’s earliest supporters & true believers - very rattled - who’s been talking to big GOP donors. They want to support Trump. They tried hard to ignore all the noise. They can’t anymore. “They’re over it. This is not how a president comports himself.”

no

they tried to pretend everything that’s been happening since 2016 is “noise”

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:30pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Jeremy W. Peters ✔
@jwpetersNYT
Just talked one of Trump’s earliest supporters & true believers - very rattled - who’s been talking to big GOP donors. They want to support Trump. They tried hard to ignore all the noise. They can’t anymore. “They’re over it. This is not how a president comports himself.”

3:03 PM - Aug 22, 2018

In other words:

We’ve been lying to and deluding ourselves this whole time not wanting to give up on our Donny…but he is too stupid to play along and keep his f’m mouth shut and he just keeps making us look bad, so dammit, we have to throw him under the bus now…reluctantly.

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:34pm

re: #124 Ace Rothstein

Strikes out looking on three straight pitches and thinks he’s a Hall of Famer.

Built the hall of fame, and hired all those guys once.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:49pm

re: #119 jaunte

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“Rule of law! Obey authority! Blue lives matter! Lock her up! Wait, shit, one of ours is in the crosshairs. WITCH HUNT! MCCARTHYISM!! GESTAPO!!!”

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:47:52pm

re: #89 Sir John Barron

If you prosecute Hunter, the terrorists win.

But fuck the navy!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:49:34pm

This has been going on in Elyria, OH (Burbs of Cleveland).

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:50:40pm

re: #98 Stanley Sea

100% agree. But I think it’s important to recognize this not as politicization but more specifically as a sort of blood libel and racist incitement. People are killed every day. They only matter to this admin when it’s an undocumented immigrant.

this is half true

any death, tragedy or destruction only matters to this admin if they can find a way to use it to their advantage

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:50:51pm

re: #105 goddamnedfrank

Rodney Dangerfield - Ugly Hat

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:51:59pm

re: #104 jaunte

Campaign financial violations are not felonies.
Go be stupid somewhere else.
There is nothing even approaching a crime here

the judge disagrees

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:52:14pm

re: #120 Sir John Barron

“Name’s Francis but everybody calls me Psycho. I hate being called Francis. Anybody calls me Francis, I kill ya. And I don’t like anybody touchin my stuff. I catch anybody touching my stuff, I kill ya. And I don’t want any a you homos touching me. Any of yous touch me, I kill ya.”

“Alright, settle down, Francis.”

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:52:18pm

re: #137 dangerman

Oddly enough!

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:52:22pm

re: #95 dangerman

hey matt:

the entire justice mechanism, federal, state, and local is capable of doing at least two things at once

it’s fine that you dont understand how manafort and cohen relate to russia

it’s also fine, and true that mueller goes to work every single day while these cases are going on. and you dont have a clue what mueller knows or is doing

when ‘russian collusion’ or conspiracy or whatever is finally laid out and open, even the slow ones like you will be able to follow along

Matt isn’t stupid…he knows how this all works. He’s just trying to be too cute with his comments. It’s all smarmy BS he needs to toss out to keep money flowing for his organization.

Just think of the drop off in earnings if wingnuts all give up the hope.

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danarchy  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:52:57pm

re: #127 Sir John Barron

Truth isn’t truth, pleading guilty to something doesn’t mean there’s a crime.

To be fair innocent people plead guilty to stuff all the time. When you are looking down the barrel of a life sentence and a prosecutors says if you plead to these charges we will recommend 5 years, even innocent people will sometimes take the time over rolling the dice.

In this case though, I am pretty sure Cohen is guilty as hell.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:53:42pm

Hunter is counting on a completed propagandized audience.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:53:59pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:54:01pm

re: #99 Skip Intro

He has a fucking campaign bus.

Wha? Democracy has been sold.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:54:01pm

re: #116 TedStriker

While live on all news networks.

not only wouldnt i turn it on, i’d burn my tv to ensure my own personal safety

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:55:35pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Born on third base and thinks he invented baseball.

born on third base and looking for the end zone

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:55:38pm
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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:56:58pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

In other words:

We’ve been lying to and deluding ourselves this whole time not wanting to give up on our Donny…but he is too stupid to play along and keep his f’m mouth shut and he just keeps making us look bad, so dammit, we have to throw him under the bus now…reluctantly.

at least we got our tax cut

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:58:30pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

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Yesterday: “Oh, this poor white girl, murdered by an illegal monster!”

Today: “GOOD RIDDANCE!”

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 1:58:45pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

Matt isn’t stupid…he knows how this all works. He’s just trying to be too cute with his comments. It’s all smarmy BS he needs to toss out to keep money flowing for his organization.

Just think of the drop off in earnings if wingnuts all give up the hope.

well he sure sounded stupid to me //s 1/2

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:00:30pm

re: #146 dangerman

born on third base and looking for the end zone his golf ball

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:01:03pm

re: #144 Stanley Sea

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:02:35pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

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Got a couple of ringers in there.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:02:48pm

re: #143 lawhawk

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4) Assert you’re the victim of a conspiracy because the DOJ didn’t magically drop their investigation into you the moment a member of your own party became president*.

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nines09  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:02:52pm

One thing I’ve known, and rediscovered, is when you don’t talk to a select group of people, when you want to start, you are not quite sure where to start.
Twitterverse allows me to just drive by.
Lots of things going on in nines09 world.
Mostly good.
So, since I’m here, driving by……Imagine a Rudy Ghouliani as your public defender.
It happens. To your numbing shock. As in, “I can’t make the shore. Imma drown.”
And fuck the entire Republican Party, Machine, Voters, Money, Supporters, and please help their pets and children.
Adopt those who will leave.
Lou Barletta for Senate posters are already popping up in my corner of the vast and undiscovered universe that we…
Fuck them.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:03:04pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:03:21pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:04:39pm

re: #157 Stanley Sea

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Beto, Beto, Beto….

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:05:04pm

re: #142 jaunte

Hunter is counting on a completed propagandized audience.

It sure does seem the Republicans all run on Fox Politics™ and think everyone in America watches and believes everything they and the rest of wingnutia media parrot.

Yeah, it worked for Trump and maybe some others during Obama’s term. But when you are doing shit that everyone is questioning, you are in dangerous territory with that kind of arrogance. You are not looking at the details.

You pushed it and pushed it and now maybe pushed it all too far.

But that’s good. Overconfidence is going to cost all of them.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:05:14pm

In case anyone wants to really get into the weeds…

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:05:18pm

re: #152 Skip Intro

Six?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:05:45pm

re: #146 dangerman

born on third base and looking for the end zone

but keeps tripping over the basket…

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:06:11pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

Beto, Beto, Beto….

Hopefully some good new as well on Governor, LT. Governor, AG, etc.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:07:15pm

re: #153 wrenchwench

Remember this?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:07:21pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

I’m getting whiplash by how quickly Rightwingers change their minds about who they care about and who they hate. So now will they stop using her as a prop in their war on Brown people?

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:07:56pm

re: #163 Belafon

Hopefully some good new as well on Governor, LT. Governor, AG, etc.

You mean, there are other races going on in that state? Let me catch my breath…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:08:09pm

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:08:57pm

re: #161 jaunte

Six?

They need the men to keep them in line.

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:09:28pm

re: #164 Skip Intro

Remember this?

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The name is familiar (they all are). Like everything, I’ll have to google for the details.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:10:16pm

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:11:28pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

She was Bush”s lawyer who he tried to appoint to the Supremes. Somebody came up with that blog, which was hilarious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:12:11pm
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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:13:50pm

re: #164 Skip Intro

Remember this?

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we are not senators!

(we are devo)

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:14:42pm

re: #171 Skip Intro

She was Bush”s lawyer who he tried to appoint to the Supremes. Somebody came up with that blog, which was hilarious.

Denounced by Bork himself, I see. That’s also hilarious.

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:15:48pm

re: #76 Stanley Sea

Ha, but not really funny. This guy has always been/is SLIME. I totally expect him to try to throw his wife under the bus. I hope she’s got something redeemable in her to fight back. (Unknown & doubted)

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Reading some of her “ideas” like charging his Hawaiian shorts at the golf pro shop and saying it was a donation of golf balls to wounded veterans, I think the two of them are a match made in hell.

Also, how is this even possible?

The Hunters allegedly “overdrew their bank account more than 1,100 times in a seven-year period,” resulting in $37,761 in fees for overdrafts and non-sufficient funds.

And this is the genius who pontificated:

“America can no longer afford to borrow and spend its way to prosperity” and that “Washington doesn’t have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem. “

washingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:17:08pm

re: #175 BeachDem

The news lately is making it really tough for me to scold my son for a $50 overdraft.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:18:58pm

re: #175 BeachDem

Hunter did have four mistresses as well as a wife so you can see how money might have been a little tight.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:19:40pm

ny magazine / jonathan chaitt

Trump Tries to Deny His Crime With Cohen, Confesses by Mistake

Trump insisted he is in the clear because the payments “weren’t taken out of campaign finance … They didn’t come out of the campaign, they came from me.”

That is not a defense. That is why it’s a crime. If the money came from the campaign, it would have been legal.

(well if it came from the campaign and was reported correctly)

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:20:20pm

re: #160 JordanRules

In case anyone wants to really get into the weeds…

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I do not think any conflicting “policies” would stop people from greenlighting indictments against Obama or Hillary (had she not been cheated). Just a feeling I have…

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:21:17pm

re: #175 BeachDem

Reading some of her “ideas” like charging his Hawaiian shorts at the golf pro shop and saying it was a donation of golf balls to wounded veterans, I think the two of them are a match made in hell.

these people are pigs

in the piggish sense of the word, not the pu$$ygrabbing sense

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:22:23pm

Well, this is going to be a circus

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:22:36pm

re: #175 BeachDem

Reading some of her “ideas” like charging his Hawaiian shorts at the golf pro shop and saying it was a donation of golf balls to wounded veterans, I think the two of them are a match made in hell.

Also, how is this even possible?

The Hunters allegedly “overdrew their bank account more than 1,100 times in a seven-year period,” resulting in $37,761 in fees for overdrafts and non-sufficient funds.

And this is the genius who pontificated:

“America can no longer afford to borrow and spend its way to prosperity” and that “Washington doesn’t have a revenue problem. It has a spending problem. “

washingtonpost.com

If that had been you or me, we wouldn’t have ever gotten to that point, because the banks would have closed our accounts and blacklisted us from having an account with any other bank that uses that list (which is many of the large ones).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:22:46pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:22:49pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:25:06pm
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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:25:30pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Tomi Lahren on Fox & Friends: “Can you imagine if we would sit here on Fox News and attack Michelle Obama for something that she was trying to do to better the country?”

Narrator: You did.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:25:43pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

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They spent 8 years freaking the fuck out because she promoted healthier school lunches and accused her of being responsible for every…single…story they ran across of schools changing their cafeteria menus.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:26:19pm

Kaitlan Collins brought up a great point during the presser with Sista Sarah. Recall, Donnie and Cohen were discussing on tape the Stormy Daniels payment yet today Donnie claimed he found out about the payment AFTER. FFS. He tells so many fucking lies that the obvious ones are hard to catch at this point.

YouTube

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:26:21pm

re: #125 jaunte

Born on home plate, took a million dollar loan from Daddy, and started running the wrong way.

And then began an illustrious career as a pitcher—what form!


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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:28:17pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[ Cruz leads O’Rourke by just four percentage points]

Poll conducted last week, before Beto’s ‘taking a knee is American’ statement, which went viral yesterday.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:29:35pm

re: #189 BeachDem

And then began an illustrious career as a pitcher—what form!

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His faces!

They are reflective of his form…all funky and uncoordinated.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:30:03pm

re: #179 JordanRules

@LarryNoble_DC Accepting that a sitting POTUS can’t be indicted (or tried, by extension) as one of 2 conflicting DOJ memos contends, why does the impeachment clause reference presumably yet-to-be-adjudicated commission of high crimes & misdemeanors but also “conviction” of such?

I do not think any conflicting “policies” would stop people from greenlighting indictments against Obama or Hillary (had she not been cheated). Just a feeling I have…

ianal

conviction (in the senate) of the impeachment (in the house)?

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:30:52pm

re: #183 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

FUCKIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:31:51pm

re: #190 wrenchwench

Poll conducted last week, before Beto’s ‘taking a knee is American’ statement, which went viral yesterday.

It’s Texas…so, what is your early take on those comments adding or subtracting percentage points from Beto?

I know it is crazyville, so I have no feel if that is going to help or hurt him in that state.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:33:21pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

It’s Texas…so, what is your early take on those comments adding or subtracting percentage points from Beto?

I know it is crazyville, so I have no feel if that is going to help or hurt him in that state.

As a Texan, I doubt it will change anything.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:34:03pm

re: #195 Belafon

As a Texan, I doubt it will change anything.

Think of it like a VP. He gave a good answer, so it won’t affect him much. Had he blown it, though, it could have hurt him.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:34:14pm

Newly elected commissioner of Memphis…

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:34:59pm

re: #193 Skip Intro

FUCKIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Beto has been tightening the race as a trend since early summer. And Cruz is under just 50%…so there may be some undecided.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:35:19pm

re: #190 wrenchwench

Poll conducted last week, before Beto’s ‘taking a knee is American’ statement, which went viral yesterday.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:35:51pm

re: #192 dangerman

ianal

conviction (in the senate) of the impeachment (in the house)?

That’s a very likely read on it.

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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:36:57pm

re: #198 ObserverArt

I will be surprised if Cruz loses. Now if on election day there is a record turnout in Texas and the GOTV campaign by Democrats set some sort of record… then maybe.

The problem as we all know is that the nominal Christians are taking orders based on years of programming, including about abortion. Religious convictions, no matter how false, are not easily changed.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:37:07pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He’s too smart for Texas DAMMIT!

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:38:16pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:38:19pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s a wonderful day in the city of Atlanta! We were happy…

Speaking of John Lewis and Happy, this always makes me smile.

Congressman John Lewis Dancing to Pharrell Williams’ “Happy”: “Nothing Can Bring Me Down”

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:38:28pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:39:41pm

re: #188 Dr. Matt

Kaitlan Collins brought up a great point during the presser with Sista Sarah. Recall, Donnie and Cohen were discussing on tape the Stormy Daniels payment yet today Donnie claimed he found out about the payment AFTER. FFS. He tells so many fucking lies that the obvious ones are hard to catch at this point.

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Kaitlan went in for the kill. It was glorious.

Note: she was the pool reporter thrown out. Because CNN.

No quarter!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:43:36pm

re: #96 Interesting Times

Hey, remember that poll from a few months ago showing a majority of Americans didn’t realize the Mueller probe had uncovered crimes? Hopefully those numbers will shift now.

because all we have heard is that it is a tedious, unending partisan witch hunt: no bombshells, no sensation, no leaks…what is wrong with him?

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:44:08pm

re: #188 Dr. Matt

I loved when Collins reminded SHS that SHS is paid by taxpayers to do her dang job. (She didn’t use the dang word). Sarah was pissed! LOL

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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:44:10pm

There was some big science news today. Now, with Trump Trauma gripping our news-cycle it is hard to pay attention to other headlines, but here it is:

Mum’s a Neanderthal, Dad’s a Denisovan: First discovery of an ancient-human hybrid

A female who died around 90,000 years ago was half Neanderthal and half Denisovan, according to genome analysis of a bone discovered in a Siberian cave. This is the first time scientists have identified an ancient individual whose parents belonged to distinct human groups. The findings were published on 22 August in Nature1.

The research: The genome of the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father

See also (with the usual hyperbole in the headline):
Scientists Stunned By a Neanderthal Hybrid Discovered in a Siberian Cave

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:46:53pm

re: #209 freetoken

There was some big science news today. Now, with Trump Trauma gripping our news-cycle it is hard to pay attention to other headlines, but here it is:

Mum’s a Neanderthal, Dad’s a Denisovan: First discovery of an ancient-human hybrid

The research: The genome of the offspring of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father

See also (with the usual hyperbole in the headline):
Scientists Stunned By a Neanderthal Hybrid Discovered in a Siberian Cave

Nature…uh…finds a way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:47:23pm

re: #209 freetoken

Cue the Creationists saying “See? They weren’t different species!!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:47:42pm

You know, it strikes me only now how the seemingly inconsequential decision not to release his tax returns was actually a critical play in Trump’s campaign. If he released his tax returns, the IRS would have been hauling him off to arraignment the following morning. He knew it; there’s no way he didn’t know it. And we are just now finding out just how deep that particular rabbit hole goes. It bought him nearly two years of obscurity, but in the end, Donald J. Trump will go down in history alongside Al Capone as career criminals who were undone by the tax man.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:48:01pm

re: #201 freetoken

I will be surprised if Cruz loses. Now if on election day there is a record turnout in Texas and the GOTV campaign by Democrats set some sort of record… then maybe.
.

I keep thinking the same thing. Cruz is as slimy as they come but the white trash fucktards in Texas keep electing him simply because he has an “R” after his name.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:48:17pm
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MsJ  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:49:31pm

re: #167 Dr. Matt

A picture is worth a thousand words.

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Sarah smokey eyed liar Huckasanders always looks like that.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:49:38pm

re: #208 Patricia Kayden

I loved when Collins reminded SHS that SHS is paid by taxpayers to do her dang job. (She didn’t use the dang word). Sarah was pissed! LOL

YES

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:49:39pm

re: #209 freetoken

“It’s really great science coupled with a little bit of luck.”

I think that’s exactly backwards. I think it’s a metric fucktonne of luck!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:51:13pm

re: #214 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And only because he was within 1000 feet of a school and not because he used a gun to threaten a human being.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:51:39pm
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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:52:42pm

re: #211 Blind Frog Belly White

Cue the Creationists saying “See? They weren’t different species!!”

It’s a false belief, that different species cannot interbreed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:52:56pm

It’s ‘Hump Day’, right?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:53:22pm

re: #212 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I remember hearing/reading a lot of folks saying “Why did The Media let him off the hook for his tax returns?” But, you know, The Media are only empowered to ask for them, and inform us that he’d refused to release them. I certainly saw THAT in the news reports - repeatedly!

It wasn’t The Media who let him off the hook. It was his voters, starting with the GOP Primary voters.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:54:47pm

OK off to spend mo money. First visit of parents this weekend. I need shower curtain etc etc etc etc, there’s this damn list.

Haven’t been refunded by State Farm yet, but they approved my pitiful claim. (900.00)

I became a Platinum Member of Marriott because of the stay - unreal/fantastic - not paid by me thank dog.

I am being refunded my security deposit on the apartment (been fighting all this time, my only recourse was travel out there for small claims court)

They sent me a pdf of the check. I’ll know in 5 days if true.

WHAT A TIME

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:55:13pm

re: #219 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:55:32pm
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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:55:42pm

Trump’s stochastic terrorists at work.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:55:48pm

re: #201 freetoken

As a Texan, I will not be surprised if Cruz wins. But, this close is closer than Democrats have gotten in a while, and will hopefully help in a lot of other elections this November, and in 2020.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:56:22pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:58:46pm

re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Jebus. I overdrew my bank account once as dead broke undergrad, but was completely embarrassed and ashamed of myself.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 2:59:55pm

re: #220 freetoken

It’s a false belief, that different species cannot interbreed.

Well, what it is, is that Nature doesn’t provide life in the hard-and-fast categories that people insist on. I used to argue Evolution with a friend I’d describe as a Sophist. He was a smart guy, widely read, but absolutely committed to Creationism.

When I described how Homo erectus (IIRC) skulls gradually enlarge from the earliest with chimp-sized brain cases to the last with brain cases a the very low end or Homo sapiens range, he insisted that, if I were correct, then at some point two parents who were NOT HUMAN gave birth to a HUMAN child. And he insisted I identify that point.

He could only see it as discrete categories. Something either IS human or it’s NOT.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:01:29pm

re: #229 Dr. Matt

Jebus. I overdrew my bank account once as dead broke undergrad, but was completely embarrassed and ashamed of myself.

As a grad student, I made sure that the grocery store I shopped at used a different bank from me, so that I had an extra day before my bank got the check.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:02:24pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:03:37pm

re: #225 Dr. Matt

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I also love that this is the photo many news orgs are using with the Duncan Hunter story—with him flanked by a convicted felon and a sketchy as shit asshole. (so, again, 2 out of three?

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:04:18pm

“…the way that Cohen reported the $50,000 expense to the Trump Organization in January 2017 suggests the money may not have been paid out through traditional financial channels.

According to prosecutors, Cohen presented Trump executives with bank records for several of the expenses he incurred on Trump’s behalf. But for his $50,000 payment to a tech company, Cohen provided no paperwork, just a handwritten sum at the top of one of the other bank documents.

The Trump Organization would later say that the $50,000 was a “payment for tech services.” However, prosecutors say the $50,000 “was in fact related to work Cohen had solicited from a technology company during and in connection with the campaign.”

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electrotek  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:04:50pm

re: #219 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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How soon people forget Je Suis Charlie.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:05:34pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:06:40pm

re: #233 BeachDem

At this rate it’s getting very difficult to find a photo of Donnie with someone that isn’t under investigation or has been convicted.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:09:41pm

re: #233 BeachDem

I also love that this is the photo many news orgs are using with the Duncan Hunter story—with him flanked by a convicted felon and a sketchy as shit asshole. (so, again, 2 out of three?

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Heh, I noticed that when it was posted in an earlier thread.

The company The Republican Party keeps.

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electrotek  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:09:47pm

So I’ve caused quite a stir when I shared this photo of this Twitter exchange on my FB:

She shouldn’t have had to lose the internship. Either he could have DM’d her in private to let her know or just ignore the tweet and mind his own business.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:12:07pm

re: #239 electrotek

Homer Hickham is a liar.

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electrotek  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:12:45pm

re: #240 Skip Intro

Homer Hickham is a liar.

Wow, really?

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:15:05pm

SpaceForce Councelors

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:15:42pm

Did I post this or am I confused? Yeah, confused.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:15:56pm

re: #241 electrotek

That’s what I read the first time this was posted. Now, maybe not. She’s definitely been canned though.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:16:51pm

re: #241 electrotek

Wow, really?

I remember some of that tweet back’n’forth posted around here in the recent past. I think at that time many people were saying Homer was full of it. And I think someone did find out his real position and it wasn’t all that, but I can’t remember the details.

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:18:28pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

She was fired but not by him.

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jaunte  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:18:31pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:22:28pm

re: #239 electrotek

So I’ve caused quite a stir when I shared this photo of this Twitter exchange on my FB:

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She shouldn’t have had to lose the internship. Either he could have DM’d her in private to let her know or just ignore the tweet and mind his own business.

Hickam says he had nothing to do with her losing the internship:

“This, I had nothing to do with, nor could I since I do not hire and fire at the agency or have any say on employment whatsoever,” Hickam wrote.

He explained that it was due to the #NASA hashtag that Naomi’s “friends used that called the agency’s attention to it” long after his own comments had been deleted.

Hickam said Naomi reached out to him with an “unnecessary apology, which I heartily accepted and returned with my own.”

“After talking to her and looking at her resume, I am certain she deserves a position in the aerospace industry and I’m doing all I can to secure her one that will be better than she lost,” he said.

newsweek.com

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electrotek  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:23:35pm

re: #248 BeachDem

Hickam says he had nothing to do with her losing the internship:

newsweek.com

That is true. But he still could have DM’d her in private about it instead of tweeting at her publicly.

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Jay C  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:23:37pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, this is going to be a circus

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It will have to wait for more information, but it’s quite possible both “sides” are equally right (or wrong) - Bahena Rivera might have misrepresented his residence status (and/or plain lied about it) to get his job: it’s unlikely his employer made more than a cursory check - as long as he wasn’t an obvious wanted criminal (somewhere), did his work, and stayed out of trouble, who was going to care?
OR: CIS may be wrong - just because they’re The Government doesn’t mean they’re infallible (though it’s hard to convince them of that)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:27:11pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:27:27pm

re: #249 electrotek

That is true. But he still could have DM’d her in private about it instead of tweeting at her publicly.

She could have done the same, instead of tweeting to suck her dick and balls.

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electrotek  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:29:16pm

re: #252 BeachDem

She could have done the same, instead of tweeting to suck her dick and balls.

Don’t disagree. But given the demographic she’s a part of, with social media being an undeniable part of their lives, it’s a natural reaction for younger folks like her to react in a way when being told to watch their mouth.

In any case, she’s got a wake-up call.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:38:01pm

Let’s drop the “demographic” bit, popping off at the mouth in a moment of emotional highs is something every person has done at least once in their lives. The thrill of landing that dream job, the misery of losing a close relative, being involved in a major accident, etc. We all have that time we said shit we wish we could take back and know we can’t, instead being forced to live with the consequences of letting our mouths override our brains. Anybody who says different is talking out their ass.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:39:00pm
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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:39:50pm
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electrotek  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:42:43pm

Edit: Nevermind

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:46:37pm

re: #255 Patricia Kayden

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No Republican is going to vote against Kavanaugh because even if they lose in three months, their party is set for the next 1-2 generations minimum. Every law and precedent they hate with every fiber of their being will be on the table for “revision” or “overturning.” The door will be closed on efforts to reverse gerrymandering, while doors to nuking RvW and the ACA will fly open. They will no longer have to worry that Roberts might get cold feet, they’ll have a guaranteed 5-4 majority ruling for years to come.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:49:38pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:54:23pm

Really, all we’re seeing right now is “moderate” Senate Republicans working their way around to saying “Aye.” They’ve already decided they’re voting for Kavanaugh, they’re just working now on how they’re going to explain their vote to the plebes back home. Something they can sell to the squishy middle in their states who will decide that approving the nominee of an admitted felon is acceptable if certain “criteria” are met.

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:57:31pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

No Republican is going to vote against Kavanaugh because even if they lose in three months, their party is set for the next 1-2 generations minimum. Every law and precedent they hate with every fiber of their being will be on the table for “revision” or “overturning.” The door will be closed on efforts to reverse gerrymandering, while doors to nuking RvW and the ACA will fly open. They will no longer have to worry that Roberts might get cold feet, they’ll have a guaranteed 5-4 majority ruling for years to come.

Not including the Kavanaugh pick, the next president (or more accurately, whoever wins the 2020 election) will likely have 2-3 picks. Ginsburg is 85, Breyer is 80, Thomas is 70. Roberts is 63, but has a history with seizures. If/when Ginsburg, Breyer, and Thomas step away, that’s when you can start talking about the balance of the Court being defined for a generation.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:58:37pm

re: #261 KGxvi

Not including the Kavanaugh pick, the next president (or more accurately, whoever wins the 2020 election) will likely have 2-3 picks. Ginsburg is 85, Breyer is 80, Thomas is 70. Roberts is 63, but has a history with seizures. If/when Ginsburg, Breyer, and Thomas step away, that’s when you can start talking about the balance of the Court being defined for a generation.

Damnit, you mean I gotta hang up my “THE END IS NEAR!” sign?

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 3:59:55pm

re: #262 Targetpractice

Damnit, you mean I gotta hang up my “THE END IS NEAR!” sign?

Eh, there’s always good money to be made in THE END IS NEAR industry, but mostly because the end is never really near.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:01:53pm
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Jay C  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:02:15pm

re: #263 KGxvi

Eh, there’s always good money to be made in THE END IS NEAR industry, but mostly because the end is never really near.

“The future’s uncertain and The End is always near……”

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Bubblehead II  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:02:59pm

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KGxvi  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:04:50pm

re: #264 JordanRules

$500 is not going to cover the costs of the law suit for injuries sustained when some rando is acting under color of law in an unlawful arrest scenario.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:05:54pm

re: #264 JordanRules

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What’s the pay if you get hit, stabbed or shot in helping said police?

Hey, we said $500. Hope you have good insurance.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:07:35pm

re: #267 KGxvi

$500 is not going to cover the costs of the law suit for injuries sustained when some rando is acting under color of law in an unlawful arrest scenario.

Ayeah, the union is offering $500 (a pittance compared to what they likely rake in annually) for anybody stupid enough to help their members beat an “excessive use of force” rap.

“No, I didn’t kick this guy’s teeth in, it was that random passerby who jumped in to assist me in making the arrest!”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:09:04pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

Randi Rhodes suggested that Democrats expand the Supreme Court and pack the it with progressive justices. Not sure if that could be done but if the Senate flips (small chance of that happening), Democrats can’t act as if it’s business as usual. Republicans stole the seat now occupied by Gorsuch and given the illegitimacy of the Trump presidency, if you can’t kick Gorsuch out, expanding the number of SCOTUS justices may be an option.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:12:40pm

re: #264 JordanRules

That’s demented, a complete reversal of traditional police policy. Most departments do not want civilians to involve themselves in an apprehension. If bystanders stop a fleeing suspect or wrestle down a shooter (as happened outside the White House some years ago), fine. But encouraging amateur intervention is an invitation to all kinds of trouble. Note that a legislator has introduced modifications to the “Good Samaritan” law to permit this, meaning that it is legally questionable now.

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Cheechako  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:12:56pm

re: #267 KGxvi

$500 is not going to cover the costs of the law suit for injuries sustained when some rando is acting under color of law in an unlawful arrest scenario.

Would that $500 bounty make that person a de facto employee of the Police Union? Maybe make them potentially liable for a lawsuit.

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MsJ  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:14:33pm

Holy shitballs. This thread.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:18:22pm

Deplorables & QAnons running around with their hair on fire, trying to deal with the cognitive dissonance eating their brains.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:25:08pm

re: #266 Bubblehead II

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:25:47pm

I was involved in one of these violent bystander incidents when I was a deputy sheriff in the 70s. A low life had gotten past a secure door in a retirement community and assaulted his girlfriend, who was employed there. I threw him down and was trying to cuff him when a friend of the girlfriend ran up and kicked him in the face, breaking his nose and splattering blood on the floor. The suspect later swore up and down that I had kicked him while he was down and cuffed. Fortunately there were plenty of witnesses and the friend freely admitted kicking the guy (she was “trying to help”) so I was off the hook. What if the vigilante had disappeared and nobody else had been around?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:27:08pm
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EPR-radar  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:29:37pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

This guarantees that Mollie Tibbetts will not become a RWNJ Horst Wessel.

The wingnut quest for the perfect immigration policy martyr continues.

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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:29:45pm

Discotute is whining about this letter published Sunday in Current Biology:

Creationism and conspiracism share a common teleological bias

Note: the above link causes both Chrome and Opera to hang. YMMV. I had to access the paper through alternative means.

Anyway:

Teleological thinking — the attribution of purpose and a final cause to natural events and entities — has long been identified as a cognitive hindrance to the acceptance of evolution, yet its association to beliefs other than creationism has not been investigated.

Here, we show that conspiracism — the proneness to explain socio-historical events in terms of secret and malevolent conspiracies — is also associated to a teleological bias. Across three correlational studies
(N > 2000), we found robust evidence of a teleological link between conspiracism and creationism, which was partly
independent from religion, politics, age, education, agency detection, analytical thinking and perception of randomness.

As a resilient ‘default’ component of early cognition, teleological thinking is thus associated with creationist as well as conspiracist beliefs, which both entail the distant and hidden involvement of a purposeful and fi nal cause to explain complex worldly events.

[…]

None of this will come as a surprise to those of us long dealing with creationists and the religious right.

Yet it is good to see a science journal throwing some light on the problem.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:30:35pm

re: #247 jaunte

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“We Yellowbeards are at our most dangerous when we’re dead!”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:30:51pm

re: #277 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump 45%.

On Faux.

Imma let that sink in. And smile. And have another piece of pie.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:34:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:34:34pm

re: #279 freetoken

Discotute is whining about this letter published Sunday in Current Biology:

Creationism and conspiracism share a common teleological bias

Note: the above link causes both Chrome and Opera to hang. YMMV. I had to access the paper through alternative means.

Anyway:

None of this will come as a surprise to those of us long dealing with creationists and the religious right.

Yet it is good to see a science journal throwing some light on the problem.

Nobody wants to think that all of it is just random shit that happens. But that’s the explanation that makes the most sense.

Where is your god now?
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:35:54pm
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Bubblehead II  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:36:26pm

re: #275 Stanley Sea

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:36:34pm

Whose the cool cat whose daughter is now first violin for her school orchestra?

This guy!

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:37:32pm
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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:37:54pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

Nature…uh…finds a way.

The takeaway is that Homo Saps, Homo Dens, and Homo Neans interbred and produced viable offspring, not mules. It confirms why modern Homo Saps have inherited chunks of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA.

Edited.Fucking spellcheck.

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:38:26pm

re: #286 Kragar

Whose the cool cat whose daughter is now first violin for her school orchestra?

This guy!

Coasters - THREE COOL CATS - The Original 1958 - In STEREO

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:39:25pm

re: #274 The Vicious Babushka

Deplorables & QAnons running around with their hair on fire, trying to deal with the cognitive dissonance eating their brains.

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When I read all of this I recall that a black woman was recently given five years for voting while on parole thinking she was in the clear.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:40:56pm

re: #288 austin_blue

The takeaway is that Homo Saps, Homo Dens, and Homom News interbred and produced viable offspring, not mules. It confirms why modern Homo Saps have inherited chunks of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA.

I thought the lesson was that, as a species, we’ll fuck anything that moves.

/

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:43:51pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

I thought the lesson was that, as a species, we’ll fuck anything that moves.

/

These guys:

Charges are pending against all three men for felony counts of endangering the welfare of a child, and corruption of a minor. They are also facing misdemeanors including 1,460 counts of sexual intercourse with an animal, and 1,460 counts of cruelty to animals.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:46:49pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

I thought the lesson was that, as a species, we’ll fuck anything that moves.

/

Yeah, the only thing that stops a completely freak-show from happening is genetic incompatibility.
We’d be up to our asses in sheep-men and such if that wasn’t the case.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:50:23pm

re: #293 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, the only thing that stops a completely freak-show from happening is genetic incompatibility.
We’d be up to our asses in sheep-men and such if that wasn’t the case.

An Australian friend of mine, who worked in Reproductive Endocrinology, was once called upon to introduce a New Zealander colleague at a conference Down Under. He talked about his undergraduate and graduate work, then said, “And for his career he decided to study reproduction in sheep, which confirms certain things you may have heard about New Zealanders…”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:50:28pm

re: #293 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Yeah, the only thing that stops a completely freak-show from happening is genetic incompatibility.
We’d be up to our asses in sheep-men and such if that wasn’t the case.

Yeah, we’re up to our asses in toxic hyena-men as it is but it’s not genetic. They’re known as Republicans.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:52:14pm
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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:52:36pm
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nines09  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:53:31pm
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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:54:11pm

Atheist schooling a vicar on the purpose of a bra:

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Dr. Matt  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:54:15pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:54:34pm

re: #297 Kragar

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He has a point. Sessions basically did the same thing as Flynn, but for the questioning of Franken we wouldn’t have known that he was as guilty. And then he was confirmed anyway because corrupt GOP.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:55:02pm
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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:55:53pm

re: #271 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s demented, a complete reversal of traditional police policy. Most departments do not want civilians to involve themselves in an apprehension. If bystanders stop a fleeing suspect or wrestle down a shooter (as happened outside the White House some years ago), fine. But encouraging amateur intervention is an invitation to all kinds of trouble. Note that a legislator has introduced modifications to the “Good Samaritan” law to permit this, meaning that it is legally questionable now.

Yes, it is. Back in the day, cops would draw their .38 specials and run to the sound of the guns. Now, it’s “protect yourself first, wait for backup, and expect management to defend you after the fact.”

Snowflakes.

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Jay C  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:56:23pm

re: #297 Kragar

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Man! Don’t they teach Basic English Spelling at Jumping Jesus Bible College? It’s “sow”, past tense “sowed” p.p. “sown”.

ADD: and this clown got a JD from UV Law?

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:57:37pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:58:24pm

re: #297 Kragar

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“The AG sewed the wind…”

Sewed?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:58:49pm

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

“The AG sewed the wind…”

Sewed?

Stewed.

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 4:59:02pm

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

“The AG sewed the wind…”

Sewed?

A stitch in time…

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:01:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:01:44pm

re: #307 Barefoot Grin

Stewed.

Yeah. I was very disappointed when I mistakenly ordered SEWED prunes and had to keep picking threads out of my teeth.
//

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:02:15pm

re: #300 Dr. Matt

“I believe that he (Cohen) observed and saw Mr. Trump being aware of the use of e-mails to damage (Democratic presidential nominee) Hillary Clinton’s campaign. That could only have been derived through illegal hacking from a Russian agency called Wikileaks,” Davis said.

Nice to have that out in the open.

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wrenchwench  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:03:03pm

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. I was very disappointed when I mistakenly ordered SEWED prunes and had to keep picking threads out of my teeth.
//

You could floss from one end to the other.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:03:12pm

re: #309 Charles Johnson

Makes me with I was on Twitter, so I could respond with, “Oh, yeah? What about the people who ask you what about that thing that’s in the article?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:03:41pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

You could floss from one end to the other.

I didn’t get to keep it. It was Rental Floss.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:04:09pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

You could floss from one end to the other.

Or,

“You don’t want to pull on that particular thread…”

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:04:29pm

Of course.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:05:08pm

Jerry Falwell

@JerryFalwellJr
“By their fruits, ye shall know them” Today, we saw the fruits of @jeffsessions but it is too little too late! The AG sewed the wind but he will reap the whirlwind in November!

“sewed”?

Really?

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Skip Intro  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:05:21pm

re: #297 Kragar

Speaking of fruit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:06:18pm

re: #298 nines09

lol that’s awesome. The audio is taken from another vid that’s even better. :)

Macaw / Parrot cursing (Angry Bird saying WTF)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:06:25pm

re: #318 Skip Intro

Hey now. Be nice to loons. They are beautiful, if somewhat crazy, birds. Fun as hell to watch.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:06:28pm

re: #316 goddamnedfrank

Of course.

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I’m sure he deeply regrets it, and his pal Jesus has forgiven him.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:06:42pm

re: #314 Blind Frog Belly White

I didn’t get to keep it. It was Rental Floss.

*WHACK!*

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:07:55pm

re: #212 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You know, it strikes me only now how the seemingly inconsequential decision not to release his tax returns was actually a critical play in Trump’s campaign. If he released his tax returns, the IRS would have been hauling him off to arraignment the following morning. He knew it; there’s no way he didn’t know it. And we are just now finding out just how deep that particular rabbit hole goes. It bought him nearly two years of obscurity, but in the end, Donald J. Trump will go down in history alongside Al Capone as career criminals who were undone by the tax man.

i get the sentiment
this is not exactly right though

the irs already has his returns and access to them. and some at least are / were probably under audit. if they could prove criminality they could have referred to the doj / u.s. attorney any time

its us, the public, that didnt get to see them and tear them apart, and speculate, and draw conclusions, in the public light

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:08:21pm

re: #320 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hey now. Be nice to loons. They are beautiful, if somewhat crazy, birds. Fun as hell to watch.

And dying in record numbers here due to lead use in fishing and hunting.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:08:47pm

re: #322 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

*WHACK!*

No whacking off here until the night shift.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:10:04pm

re: #323 dangerman

i get the sentiment
this is not exactly right though

the irs already has his returns and access to them. and some at least are / were probably under audit. if they could prove criminality they could have referred to the doj / u.s. attorney any time

its us, the public, that didnt get to see them and tear them apart, and speculate, and draw conclusions, in the public light

Hm, a good point.

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:12:10pm

re: #312 wrenchwench

You could floss from one end to the other.

Wait, what? I thought thongs were butt floss…

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freetoken  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:13:38pm

re: #323 dangerman

The IRS may not know, probably often does not know, what any line item may really means on a tax return.

For example, Trump could have on his return the cost of legal counsel, listing Cohen’s fees. If there is a receipt from Cohen then the IRS will be fine with that.

However, the IRS will not know that the payments to Cohen were to reimburse Cohen paying off women.

Etc.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:13:55pm

re: #316 goddamnedfrank

Of course.

Just another case of do as I say, not as I do.Hypocrites all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:14:27pm

This asshole==>

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:14:43pm

re: #327 austin_blue

Wait, what? I thought thongs were butt floss…

Thongs seem sexy until you really think this through.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:14:54pm

re: #257 electrotek

Edit: Nevermind

i do mind

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:16:24pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

This asshole==>

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Translation: “Stop getting in the way of our efforts to pack the court!”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:17:48pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:18:16pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

Senator Graham: You are a feckless toadie. You are completely bereft of gorm. You make a mental institution look like the Harvard School of Medicine. Everyone on this planet is dumber for having read your words. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on whatever passes for your soul, since you obviously don’t have one.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:18:32pm

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s a verse from the Bible. You wouldn’t expect Falwell, of all people, to get it right.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:20:11pm

re: #334 Charles Johnson

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GOP: “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS!!!”

Media: “This is just a sign of ‘economic anxiety.’”

DNC: “The president is an idiot.”

Media: “CAN YOU BELIEVE THE DEMOCRATS FOR COARSENING OUR POLITICAL DISCUSSION?!”

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:21:17pm

re: #286 Kragar

Whose the cool cat whose daughter is now first violin for her school orchestra?

This guy!

now i gotta go play the theme from shaft

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:26:17pm

re: #338 dangerman

now i gotta go play the theme from shaft

“That violin player is a baaad mutha…”
“Shut your mouth!”

///

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:26:18pm

re: #338 dangerman

now i gotta go play the theme from shaft

Shut your mouth!

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:26:21pm

re: #304 Jay C

Man! Don’t they teach Basic English Spelling at Jumping Jesus Bible College? It’s “sow”, past tense “sowed” p.p. “sown”.

ADD: and this clown got a JD from UV Law?

i assume there’s gonna be lots of these comments below, er above

let me just say that if jerry read the bible, he’d know the correct spelling/usage

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:27:12pm

re: #339 TedStriker

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

Missed it by that much.
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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:28:44pm
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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:29:01pm

re: #339 TedStriker

“That violin player is a baaad mutha…”
“Shut your mouth!”

///

re: #340 Blind Frog Belly White

Shut your mouth!

One second!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:32:19pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:32:34pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

This asshole==>

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Scroll up to 6:20 to see a young Lindsey talking out of the other side of his mouth. O’Donnell’s comment after Lindsey’s clip is pretty scathing.

Lawrence: Michael Cohen Says Donald Trump Ordered Him To Commit Crimes | The Last Word | MSNBC

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:34:26pm

re: #328 freetoken

The IRS may not know, probably often does not know, what any line item may really means on a tax return.

For example, Trump could have on his return the cost of legal counsel, listing Cohen’s fees. If there is a receipt from Cohen then the IRS will be fine with that.

However, the IRS will not know that the payments to Cohen were to reimburse Cohen paying off women.

Etc.

absolutely
though thats what audits are for
and him releasing his returns wouldnt (necessarily) reveal that either

the original comment was a different dynamic — if he made his returns public

so yeah, crowd sourcing would have torn them apart and raised all kinds of questions
most probably legitimate ones, because as the public we’re not constrained the way the irs is

but that doenst mean the irs reads the blogs and watches the news and wakes up one day and just indicts him, and not in less than a years time

they still have procedures and standards and channels and have to build the same investigation as if he never released them to the public. and none of that information, process or progress would be public information as it was happening

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:34:33pm

re: #330 The Vicious Babushka

“We’re going to make Trump’s election legitimate even if we have to rig the Supreme Court to do it.”

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:35:10pm

re: #343 Charles Johnson

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And (of course) CBP is insisting it’s being totally open…as it keeps as much information as possible about this boondoggle under wraps, while bitching that the GAO doesn’t get that building a wall is more important than how much it costs us since Mexico told Trump where to stick the bill.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:35:16pm

re: #317 austin_blue

Jerry Falwell

@JerryFalwellJr
“By their fruits, ye shall know them” Today, we saw the fruits of @jeffsessions but it is too little too late! The AG sewed the wind but he will reap the whirlwind in November!

“sewed”?

Really?

OK, I give up. What is little Jerry Falwell upset about now? The fact that his pal Donny’s former lawyer implicated Donny is a federal crime? That Manafort was found guilty of 8 counts of tax fraud?

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:35:40pm

re: #331 Barefoot Grin

Thongs seem are sexy until you really think this through put one on.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:36:39pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:38:23pm

I love how Muellers office has barely commented publicly on anything that’s come out of the inquiry thus far.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:38:48pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

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They’ve said the same shit about Flynn, Papadopolous, and Gates: They committed no crimes, but instead were forced into signing false confessions through coercion. It’s the only card they have left in the deck, to accuse Mueller and any who assist him of engaging in criminal acts in order to bring down Trump.

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:38:55pm

re: #286 Kragar

Whose the cool cat whose daughter is now first violin for her school orchestra?

This guy!

Nice. Is she thinking about making that a career?

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:39:43pm

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

I love how Muellers office has barely commented publicly on anything that’s come out of the inquiry thus far.

everyone’s an expert on the investigation while none of them have any actual first hand information

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:40:18pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

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The Lock Her Up media sure is suddenly getting all squishy on criminal law as applied to politicians.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:40:51pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

They’ve said the same shit about Flynn, Papadopolous, and Gates: They committed no crimes, but instead were forced into signing false confessions through coercion. It’s the only card they have left in the deck, to accuse Mueller and any who assist him of engaging in criminal acts in order to bring down Trump.

then it’s amazing that this one weird trick worked so well on all of them

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:41:14pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

They’ve said the same shit about Flynn, Papadopolous, and Gates: They committed no crimes, but instead were forced into signing false confessions through coercion. It’s the only card they have left in the deck, to accuse Mueller and any who assist him of engaging in criminal acts in order to bring down Trump.

If that were true, we would know about it. It’s one of the axioms of the anti-conspiracy world, the “Truth Will Out” axiom: “The more complicated the conspiracy, the less possible it is to remain hidden for any significant length of time.”

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:41:17pm
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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:42:42pm

folks, it’s been a pretty good two days

and i havent got any work done

im taking the rest of the night off

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:43:40pm

Another useful axiom is called the “Universal Limit of Conspiracy”: “A sufficiently complicated conspiracy must continue to grow until it requires the entirety of the world, except for the conspiracy theorists, to be in on it. Such a conspiracy is, by definition, the worst possible conspiracy theory.”

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:44:25pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

They’ve said the same shit about Flynn, Papadopolous, and Gates: They committed no crimes, but instead were forced into signing false confessions through coercion. It’s the only card they have left in the deck, to accuse Mueller and any who assist him of engaging in criminal acts in order to bring down Trump.

But they’re sure that HRC is guilty of many, hideous crimes, dark and bloody, they just know it. If these many crimes would just be investigated and appropriate charges brought.

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:46:04pm

re: #355 ObserverArt

Nice. Is she thinking about making that a career?

Maybe, or become a music instructor

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:47:08pm

re: #286 Kragar

Whose the cool cat whose daughter is now first violin for her school orchestra?

This guy!

Is she trying to write her own music?

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:47:37pm

re: #365 Belafon

Is she trying to write her own music?

Not really

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:48:07pm

re: #355 ObserverArt

Nice. Is she thinking about making that a career?

I hope not. If she was, she would pick up a viola and learn to read the lower clef. Fiddle players are thick on the ground and competition for any orchestra chair is fierce. Good viola players, on the other bow, are much more in demand.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:48:17pm

re: #359 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If that were true, we would know about it. It’s one of the axioms of the anti-conspiracy world, the “Truth Will Out” axiom: “The more complicated the conspiracy, the less possible it is to remain hidden for any significant length of time.”

They’re convinced that Mueller’s dragging out the investigation of these men in order to bury them under legal bills, then offer plea deals as a way to avoid financial ruin.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:48:35pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:48:39pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

They’ve said the same shit about Flynn, Papadopolous, and Gates: They committed no crimes, but instead were forced into signing false confessions through coercion. It’s the only card they have left in the deck, to accuse Mueller and any who assist him of engaging in criminal acts in order to bring down Trump.

Interestingly, Comey and the FBI basically said HRC didn’t deserve to be subject to criminal penalties because NOBODY FUCKING GETS LOCKED UP FOR THIS SHIT.

Now that Donny’s buddies are getting locked up for real for real crimes the LOCK HER UP media suddenly thinks this is all just too out of proportion, th at such activities as have been charged are not really after all crimes and should be settled with a fine, etc.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:49:20pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

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Mueller is getting people to confess to non-existent crimes? The guy is better than I thought!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:50:06pm

re: #368 Targetpractice

They’re convinced that Mueller’s dragging out the investigation of these men in order to bury them under legal bills, then offer plea deals as a way to avoid financial ruin.

And there would be a whistleblower somewhere, because with the size of the Mueller investigation (have they SEEN how many people the man has on his team?!), it would be impossible to completely silence and control everyone at all times.

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gocart mozart  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:50:33pm
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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:50:40pm

re: #352 The Vicious Babushka

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Gregg’s almost got the Tucker face down/

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:51:20pm

re: #362 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Another useful axiom is called the “Universal Limit of Conspiracy”: “A sufficiently complicated conspiracy must continue to grow until it requires the entirety of the world, except for the conspiracy theorists, to be in on it. Such a conspiracy is, by definition, the worst possible conspiracy theory.”

Hell, half wingnut world must think Jefferson Bueregard Davis Sessions III is in on the Vast Conspiracy.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:52:45pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:54:08pm

re: #373 gocart mozart

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Wow these cops are in on The Conspiracy, too.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:55:26pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

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No kidding, Mueller almost talked me into confessing to and serving a 5 year sentence for obeying the speed limit!

The guy is a crafty devil!

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:56:35pm

re: #320 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hey now. Be nice to loons. They are beautiful, if somewhat crazy, birds. Fun as hell to watch.

Saw this Sunday morning.

Iframe

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:57:05pm

re: #368 Targetpractice

They’re convinced that Mueller’s dragging out the investigation of these men in order to bury them under legal bills, then offer plea deals as a way to avoid financial ruin.

Bastard!

//

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:58:43pm

re: #356 dangerman

everyone’s an expert on the investigation while none of them have any actual first hand information

They’ve discovered The Grand Conspiracy right from their very own television booths. Remarkable.

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Targetpractice  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:58:46pm

re: #372 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And there would be a whistleblower somewhere, because with the size of the Mueller investigation (have they SEEN how many people the man has on his team?!), it would be impossible to completely silence and control everyone at all times.

Remember, they think that they’ve got the smoking gun in Strzok’s texts. That in a single man expressing his personal opinions, they’ve found proof that the whole thing is a political conspiracy against Trump and all those in his inner circle.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:59:02pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:59:29pm

re: #382 Targetpractice

Remember, they think that they’ve got the smoking gun in Strzok’s texts. That in a single man expressing his personal opinions, they’ve found proof that the whole thing is a political conspiracy against Trump and all those in his inner circle.

And they know, just know, that Strzok is guilty. Of something.

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:59:30pm

re: #357 Sir John Barron

The Lock Her Up media sure is suddenly getting all squishy on criminal law as applied to politicians.

They don’t want the Trump Train to ever end, because it makes them rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 5:59:44pm

re: #297 Kragar

The AG sewed the wind but he will reap the whirlwind in November!

That’s sowed the wind, you numbnuts!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:00:08pm

I hope Mueller or someone on his team writes a book about this when it’s all done with.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:00:33pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:01:06pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another EXCLUSIVE

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:02:04pm

re: #304 Jay C

Man! Don’t they teach Basic English Spelling at Jumping Jesus Bible College? It’s “sow”, past tense “sowed” p.p. “sown”.

ADD: and this clown got a JD from UV Law?

Should have read down a little farther….

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:02:19pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He really needs to just shut his cake hole. Every time he opens his mouth, he admits to another crime.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:04:11pm
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Ace Rothstein  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:04:13pm

re: #391 austin_blue

He really needs to just shut his cake hole. Every time he opens his mouth, he admits to another crime.

Forget it, he’s rolling.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:05:25pm

Things that will bake your noodle…

Imagine if the 12th Amendment wasn’t enacted.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:05:42pm

re: #392 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Damn, now Mueller’s got Ross confessing to a non-crime.

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Kragar  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:06:23pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:07:03pm

re: #367 austin_blue

I hope not. If she was, she would pick up a viola and learn to read the lower clef. Fiddle players are thick on the ground and competition for any orchestra chair is fierce. Good viola players, on the other bow, are much more in demand.

I was more or less hoping she was making music a career. Maybe she ends up playing something else in time. Maybe several instruments for her teaching career. She’s young…just nice to see kids in the arts.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:07:07pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tell ‘em how many electric colleges ya done won, Donnie. Tell ‘em!

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:08:13pm

re: #396 Kragar

Are you saying those are wrong?!!!

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:08:36pm

I see that Beto is now within four points of Rafael. For what it’s worth, the town I live in (The Woodlands, TX.) is Republican but not wingnut. Every day, I am seeing more and more Beto signs in yards of homes. I don’t mean like one here and one there, I mean in a whole lot of yards, and this area votes for Republican like 70%. If these people vote, Beto is going to win this thing.

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lawhawk  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:13:01pm

re: #353 Eclectic Cyborg

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:18:48pm

Washington Post Says The L-Word

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:22:36pm

re: #386 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s sowed the wind, you numbnuts!

I can’t see that “Sown the wind/reap the whirlwind” quote without hearing it in Air Chief Marshal Harris’ voice. Jerry Junior? Pffffft!

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:25:24pm

I had posted earlier today about the newswoman sprinting after the Manafort verdict was handed out. I finally got to read through the tweets, and I thought you all would like this one:

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:29:15pm

re: #397 ObserverArt

I was more or less hoping she was making music a career. Maybe she ends up playing something else in time. Maybe several instruments for her teaching career. She’s young…just nice to see kids in the arts.

I’m the Production Mentor for a classical music festival, have been for over twenty years. It’s an orchestra boot camp. Four symphonic shows plus chamber music on other nights. 16 concerts in 14 days.

I love to see kids get into the arts. But if you want to be a classical musician as a career, don’t choose a popular instrument. Winds? Learn the bassoon. Strings? Viola or double bass. Horns? Trombone.

(Even if it’s sad!)

Your chances will be SO much better.

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:29:27pm

That sounds oddly familiar.

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:31:27pm

re: #400 Ace Rothstein

I see that Beto is now within four points of Rafael. For what it’s worth, the town I live in (The Woodlands, TX.) is Republican but not wingnut. Every day, I am seeing more and more Beto signs in yards of homes. I don’t mean like one here and one there, I mean in a whole lot of yards, and this area votes for Republican like 70%. If these people vote, Beto is going to win this thing.

My dear friend lived in humble. Been there many times

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:31:45pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:33:05pm

re: #391 austin_blue

He really needs to just shut his cake hole. Every time he opens his mouth, he admits to another crime.

I encourage him to keep blathering. Like tomorrow when he is a Fox friend.

He will be doing more lying, dodging, misleading and obstructing because that is all he has left. Since it is Fox, he’ll feel safe, so no telling what crap flows out of him.

Someone from the Mueller investigation is probably always watching because they know he is always being The Don.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:33:49pm

Yep, they’re going there in swarms. This is from the same Lubbock radio host who declared that the Orlando nightclub shooting victims were ‘Getting Lit, Using Illegal Drugs and Spreading STDs”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:35:11pm

re: #407 dangerman

My dear friend lived in humble. Been there many times

I remember when Enco (Later Exxxxxon—How many “x”s in there?) was still officially the “Humble Oil and Refining Co.”

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Bass Reeves  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:39:10pm

The most pitiful thing about the hush money, is that I can’t see the electorate in 2016 being swayed by Trump cheating on another wife. Access Hollywood tape was out, his behavior at Teen USA was out, his known history of marital infidelity was out.

Who at that point is making a decision one way or another based on this? Crap, if he had paid her to have sex in the first place, we might have gotten some traction on the hypocrisy towards sex workers. It’s just such a weird own goal.

I mean…unless the sex was bad. Not kinky, but bad.

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:39:42pm

re: #378 b.d.(not confessing to fake crimes)

No kidding, Mueller almost talked me into confessing to and serving a 5 year sentence for obeying the speed limit!

The guy is a crafty devil!

And apparently, from the about 1 minute I forced myself to watch Hannity during a Rachel commercial break, that’s the hill they’re going to die on. Gregg Jarrett, Sara Carter and, of course, the greatest legal mind around today, Hannity, went on about how Cohen confessed to things that weren’t crimes (hey, Greggy talked to some very high up, knowledgeable legal ace, who will, of course, remain nameless) and that’s the deal.

Of course, this main course was served with a side of Hillary Clinton and some fawning over the yam’s latest idiotic tweet. And coming up next, Michelle Malkin and Pam Bondi. CLICK.

It’s no wonder the Foxbots are out of their minds. Less than a minute and I was ready to jump off the nearest cliff.

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Belafon  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:41:37pm

re: #412 Bass Reeves

The most pitiful thing about the hush money, is that I can’t see the electorate in 2016 being swayed by Trump cheating on another wife. Access Hollywood tape was out, his behavior at Teen USA was out, his known history of marital infidelity was out.

Who at that point is making a decision one way or another based on this? Crap, if he had paid her to have sex in the first place, we might have gotten some traction on the hypocrisy towards sex workers. It’s just such a weird own goal.

I mean…unless the sex was bad. Not kinky, but bad.

It’s not the cheating, it’s the hiding. Not only was the hiding wrong from the POV of not informing the electorate, but it opened him to blackmail.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:41:54pm

re: #413 BeachDem

If they weren’t crimes, why confess and plead guilty in the first place?

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:42:18pm

re: #412 Bass Reeves

The most pitiful thing about the hush money, is that I can’t see the electorate in 2016 being swayed by Trump cheating on another wife. Access Hollywood tape was out, his behavior at Teen USA was out, his known history of marital infidelity was out.

Who at that point is making a decision one way or another based on this? Crap, if he had paid her to have sex in the first place, we might have gotten some traction on the hypocrisy towards sex workers. It’s just such a weird own goal.

I mean…unless the sex was bad. Not kinky, but bad.

They had a system
They shut everyone up with ndas and assumed that would always work and was bullet proof
They weren’t able to see this one individual situation (Daniels) differently

They weren’t… creative

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dangerman  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:43:28pm

I came back the

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austin_blue  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:45:38pm

re: #417 dangerman

I came back the

Shit! Did dangerman just stroke out?!?! Call 911!!

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BeachDem  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:48:58pm

re: #415 Ace Rothstein

If they weren’t crimes, why confess and plead guilty in the first place?

It’s all part of the deep state plot to discredit the thing in the White House or some such nonsense. Nobody ever said it had to make sense!

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TedStriker  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:54:14pm

re: #404 Belafon

I had posted earlier today about the newswoman sprinting after the Manafort verdict was handed out. I finally got to read through the tweets, and I thought you all would like this one:

Airplane! Phone Booth Clip

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JordanRules  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:58:40pm

re: #415 Ace Rothstein

If they weren’t crimes, why confess and plead guilty in the first place?

They act like you can plead guilty to any ole thing in a court of law. Here is a music playlist and lint from my pocket. I plead guilty. Whet??

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 22, 2018 • 6:58:54pm

re: #419 BeachDem

It’s all part of the deep state plot to discredit the thing in the White House or some such nonsense. Nobody ever said it had to make sense!

So…you can plead guilty to something that’s not a crime. Can you be pardoned for something that’s not a crime? Lawyers?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:09:13pm

re: #398 Sir John Barron

Tell ‘em how many electric colleges ya done won, Donnie. Tell ‘em!

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“Can I pet the bunny?”

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Scout  Aug 22, 2018 • 7:36:29pm

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

Washington Post Says The L-Word

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That’s a really good piece by the newspaper’s Fact Checker.


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