Game Changer: Trump’s Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg Given Immunity by Prosecutors to Testify

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And another big shoe drops: Trump Org CFO Allen Weisselberg given immunity by prosecutors to testify.

The longtime chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, Allen Weisselberg, was given immunity by federal prosecutors in New York during the course of the Michael Cohen investigation, according to two people with knowledge of the matter.

The news was first reported Friday by The Wall Street Journal.

Weisselberg is “Executive 1” on page 17 of the criminal information filed by prosecutors in the Michael Cohen case, a person with knowledge of the matter told NBC News.

According to prosecutors, Cohen, then Trump’s attorney, sent an invoice to Executive 1, meaning Weisselberg, for “Payment for services rendered for the month of January and February, 2017,” a payment that was really meant to reimburse Cohen for a payment to Stormy Daniels.

Weisselberg then sent the invoice to another Trump Organization executive via e-mail directing him to “Please pay from the Trust. Post to legal expenses. Put ‘retainer for the months of January and February 2017’ in the description.”

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1
I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:05:53pm

Reposting cause I can.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:08:08pm

Trump stabbed Hillary with a Weiner and Karma screws him with a Pecker!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:09:29pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

Trump stabbed Hillary with a Weiner and Karma screws him with a Pecker!

But Pecker got a deal, so no hard time.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:12:09pm

Somebody needs to respond to each of these developments by reading Donald’s favorite little parable “The Snake” to him.

Because this is hot snake-on-snake action right now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:17:27pm

re: #4 The Ghost of a Flea

Somebody needs to respond to each of these developments by reading Donald’s favorite little parable “The Snake” to him.

Because this is hot snake-on-snake action right now.

Watch out, that’s how they get motivated to breed.

Ball Python Combat

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Dr. Matt  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:18:22pm

Papa John’s to Teach Employees How Not to Act Like Papa John

If you need to teach an adult NOT to be a racist asshole, they are a lost cause. See: Donnie.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:20:02pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:20:52pm

Pretty sure Trump cultists are getting stupider all the time. Possibly some sort of brain bug.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:22:37pm

This is Twitter dedication.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:22:47pm
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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:26:30pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

Papa John’s to Teach Employees How Not to Act Like Papa John

If you need to teach an adult NOT to be a racist asshole, they are a lost cause. See: Donnie.

At the same time, some people need to be told that some things they grew up learning were wrong, or that there are some things they might think are ok that aren’t. My company does this training every year.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:27:33pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Pretty sure Trump cultists are getting stupider all the time. Possibly some sort of brain bug.

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He also wants to “Nationalize Twitter” because conspiracy theorists and serial harassers are entitled to social media platforms, apparently.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:27:38pm
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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:28:10pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea

Our best knew not to meet with Kim.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:28:21pm

Politicon Drops Milo Yiannopoulos as a Conference Speaker Without Telling Him

Other speakers include everyone from leftist pundits Cenk Uygur and Hasan Piker of The Young Turks, to far-right commentators like Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson.

I guess Milo was too much, even for a complete freak show meant to highlight lunatics on the far left and right.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:28:34pm

Trump’s hoping people blame China or NK for his failure on North Korea, all while using that to deflect attention from fact his longtime CFO just flipped and will turn state’s evidence for prosecutors (and this directly means assistance in both SDNY and likely helps state prosecutors).

That latter bit means any Trump pardon threats wont help. The federal charges - likely including massive amounts of tax fraud, falsifying tax returns, omitting key data, etc. - all have state level equivalents.

NYS Dept. of Tax and Finance takes these things seriously.

Prosecutors don’t just give these deals to anyone. They have to get something of substantial value in return. And that means mapping out Trump’s finances and where the money is coming from and where it’s going.

For those of us who have been saying this was going to happen all along, it’s gratifying to see it finally start to play out.

There’s zero reason for anyone to be blindsided by any of this. Anyone saying that they’re blindsided are kidding themselves or lying. That includes Trumpworld too.

They knew or had every reason to know this was an outcome. Weisselberg was either going to get indicted directly or flip.

He flipped.

And now Trump’s flipping out because his longtime personal attorney and his longtime financial officer are cooperating with the feds.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:29:13pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Why hasn’t Milo been deported?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:29:30pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:30:43pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:32:33pm

HURR HURR BUTTER EMAILS!!!1!!! URANUSIUM ONE LORETTA LYNCHTARMACVINCEFOSTERARKANCIDEROSELAWFIRMARGLEBARGLE!!!11!!!

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:33:16pm

LOL

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:34:02pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR BUTTER EMAILS!!!1!!! URANUSIUM ONE LORETTA LYNCHTARMACVINCEFOSTERARKANCIDEROSELAWFIRMARGLEBARGLE!!!11!!!

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President Hillary Clinton has been a total disaster.

/

But thanks, Mayor 911, for trying to change the subject.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:34:53pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:36:13pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR BUTTER EMAILS!!!1!!! URANUSIUM ONE LORETTA LYNCHTARMACVINCEFOSTERARKANCIDEROSELAWFIRMARGLEBARGLE!!!11!!!

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Maybe because they didn’t try to hide it. I don’t know, Rudy, just spit-balling here.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:36:32pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:37:22pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR BUTTER EMAILS!!!1!!! URANUSIUM ONE LORETTA LYNCHTARMACVINCEFOSTERARKANCIDEROSELAWFIRMARGLEBARGLE!!!11!!!

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Is Rudy comparing a payment for research to hush money paid to former, uh, lovers?

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:38:11pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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38% seems really high./

Little surprised at the 18% strongly approve. Though there was a solid base of 27% there.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:40:03pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR BUTTER EMAILS!!!1!!! URANUSIUM ONE LORETTA LYNCHTARMACVINCEFOSTERARKANCIDEROSELAWFIRMARGLEBARGLE!!!11!!!

“Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C. “

Why would paying an American commercial research company be illegal?

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Skip Intro  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:42:16pm

re: #27 Sir John Barron

So it looks like Peak Trump Insanity tops out at around 20%. Could be worse.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:42:19pm

Funny thread

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:43:25pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:43:38pm
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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:44:01pm

re: #21 gocart mozart

Rammstein - Amerika (Official Video)

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:44:07pm

re: #11 Belafon

At the same time, some people need to be told that some things they grew up learning were wrong, or that there are some things they might think are ok that aren’t. My company does this training every year.

dont be a dick.
next

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Mike Lamb  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:44:28pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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I was told that the polls show Trump would do even better if the election was held now. Was I misinformed?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:45:39pm

re: #34 dangerman

dont be a dick.
next

That doesn’t work. You have to show them Dick being Dick, then tell them not to be Dick.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:45:39pm
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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:48:42pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

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The hurricane was split in two, or Hawaii? Since Hawaii is already in a couple of pieces it must be the hurricane.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:50:06pm

re: #28 Dr. Matt

“Fusion GPS is a commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C. “

Why would paying an American commercial research company be illegal?

You can’t pay money to anybody if you’re candidate, I guess.

//

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:50:28pm

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR BUTTER EMAILS!!!1!!! URANUSIUM ONE LORETTA LYNCHTARMACVINCEFOSTERARKANCIDEROSELAWFIRMARGLEBARGLE!!!11!!!

If there is any justice left at DOJ why is payment by Hillary Clinton and DNC to FusionGPS for the phony Steele dossier not under investigation. On your theory in Cohen plea it’s an illegal campaign contribution.Let’s go DOJ wake up. where’s the indictment. Clintons not above law

once again rudy.
i’ll type slower this time

OUTGOING payments BY the clinton campaign TO fusiongps
OUTGOING payments BY the DNC TO fusiongps
acknowledged, above board, recorded and REPORTED to the FEC as necessary / required

cohen/trump scam was an IN-KIND contribution TO the campaign paid ON BEHALF of the campaign and NOT by the campaign. then HIDDEN in an attempt to NOT BE DISCOVERED.

NOT reported to the campaign as a contribution in-kind
Campaign DID NOT REPORT to the fec as a CONTRIBUTION RECEIVED BY THE CAMPAIGN in-kind

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:52:26pm

re: #27 Sir John Barron

38% seems really high./

Little surprised at the 18% strongly approve. Though there was a solid base of 27% there.

Just remember, MAGA juror still voted to convict Manafort on all charges. At some point, Trump just won’t be MAGA enough.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:53:16pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

What they don’t mention is that John Kerry didn’t use a technological device. He just summoned all his accumulated spirit power into a single blast.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:54:22pm

re: #34 dangerman

dont be a dick.
next

Your faith in humanity is touching.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:54:54pm

re: #36 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That doesn’t work. You have to show them Dick being Dick, then tell them not to be Dick.

this here is Dick being a dick
Don’t be a dick like Dick

let’s take a break

;-)

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:57:45pm

re: #44 dangerman

this here is Dick being a dick
Don’t be a dick like Dick

let’s take a break

;-)

A conversation with my mother:
ME: Remember how women only got the right to get their loans in 1978?
MOM: Yes.
ME: See how that’s oppression and discrimination by men against women.
MOM: Yes, exactly.
ME: Now, can you see how that translates into a similar situation that minorities have to deal with?
MOM: No.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 12:57:50pm

re: #43 Belafon

Your faith in humanity is touching.

i am not a pollyanna
i am mostly a cockeyed optimist (insert obligatory South Pacific reference)
(no reference to D. Pecker intended)

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:03:16pm

“Sweatpants”

[Verse 1 - Childish Gambino:]
Watching haters wonder why Gambino got the game locked
Half-Thai thickie, all she wanna do is Bangkok
Got her hair done, French braids, now she A$AP
Bino so insensitive, she asking, “Why you say that?!”
I’m chillin’, real nigga feeling
Rich kid, asshole: paint me as a villain
Still spitting that cash flow: DJ Khaled
I got a penthouse on both coasts, pH balance
Real nigga, I rep those, why though? Cause I said so
Hip deep in the Pepto, I got five on her like Ben Folds
I got more tail than that PetCo, you faker than some Sweet’N Low
Yeah, you got some silverware, but really are you eating though?
Are you eating though? Nigga, are you eating though?
Breakfast, lunch and dinner’s for beginners, you ain’t even know
Never catching cases, why they faces look so e-m-o?
Watch a hater hate me, wanna play me like a piano
My architect know Japanese, yo’ girl, she chalky knees
No hands like soccer teams and y’all fuck boys like Socrates
You niggas ain’t copping these, niggas ain’t looking like me
Nah, I ain’t checking I.D. but I bounce ‘em with no problem
Tell ‘em, Problem (Problem!)

Childish Gambino - Sweatpants ft. Problem


More green than my Whole Foods and I’m too fly, Jeff Goldblum

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:03:58pm

re: #45 Belafon

A conversation with my mother:
ME: Remember how women only got the right to get their loans in 1978?
MOM: Yes.
ME: See how that’s oppression and discrimination by men against women.
MOM: Yes, exactly.
ME: Now, can you see how that translates into a similar situation that minorities have to deal with?
MOM: No.

i do live in a bit of a bubble

i am extremely fortunately that none of my family, or extended family is full goose bozo. none of us have ever had the kind of conversations many fellow lizards post here. no trump fans. we all get along. there has been no alienation of any kind. in that, i am lucky.

businesswise, behavioral training is not required or really applicable.

however it’s a good thing the state mandates biennial ethics training else after all these years i might all of a sudden print a wrong word on our business cards

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:05:02pm
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KGxvi  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:06:47pm

re: #27 Sir John Barron

38% seems really high./

Little surprised at the 18% strongly approve. Though there was a solid base of 27% there.

There’s 9% that approve of his general assholishness, but they feel like he could still be doing more to be an asshole.

On the bright side: 38% is pretty fucking impressive. And yet the GOP in Congress are still a bunch of fucking cowards

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:06:57pm

Old white men cannot handle the GOAT.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:07:32pm

re: #50 KGxvi

There’s 9% that approve of his general assholishness, but they feel like he could still be doing more to be an asshole.

On the bright side: 38% is pretty fucking impressive. And yet the GOP in Congress are still a bunch of fucking cowards

Because that 38% is almost the entire GOP base.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:08:38pm

re: #52 Big Beautiful Door

Because that 38% is almost the entire GOP base.

They got too vile for good people to stick around and try to save the party from the crazies.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:09:16pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

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Old white men cannot handle the GOAT.

Too Damn Sexy I guess.

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KGxvi  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:10:10pm

re: #52 Big Beautiful Door

Because that 38% is almost the entire GOP base.

If it’s not the base, it’s damn close… that’s basically Goldwater/McGovern/Mondale territory

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:10:46pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:11:10pm

re: #54 Sir John Barron

Too Damn Sexy I guess.

She should announce she’s skipping the French Open and see how they like that.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:11:52pm

re: #57 Big Beautiful Door

She should announce she’s skipping the French Open and see how they like that.

I kind of think that’s the point. Now, if all of the top players did that…

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:12:34pm

re: #47 gocart mozart

You’ve gone deep.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:12:42pm

re: #45 Belafon

My parents got divorced in 1978 and when they separated my mom couldn’t get a credit card without her husband’s permission. It was a big deal back then that she opened her own bank account.

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gwangung  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:14:04pm

re: #51 Stanley Sea

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Old white men cannot handle the GOAT.

Seriously. I don’t see ANYTHING disrespectful about that outfit. It’s sharp looking, but fairly modest.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:14:33pm

OT, but does anybody know why the DCCC (among others) keep sending emails asking for my damn signature, to go on record supporting this or opposing that?

So far as I know, my adding a signature is not going to affect a roll call in Congress.

Since they already have my email and phone number I’m not sure what other info they might hope to gain from my “petition” participation.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:15:03pm

re: #60 Flying Squirrel Girl

My parents got divorced in 1978 and when they separated my mom couldn’t get a credit card without her husband’s permission. It was a big deal back then that she opened her own bank account.

I’ll admit I find that amazing.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:15:26pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:15:47pm

re: #62 Sir John Barron

OT, but does anybody know why the DCCC (among others) keep sending emails asking for my damn signature, to go on record supporting this or opposing that?

So far as I know, my adding a signature is not going to affect a roll call in Congress.

Since they already have my email and phone number I’m not sure what other info they might hope to gain from my “petition” participation.

It could help them sign some checks from your bank account, eliminating the need to involve you in the process at all.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:17:03pm

re: #65 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It could help them sign some checks from your bank account, eliminating the need to involve you in the process at all.

…and I just got another one.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:17:31pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:20:08pm

re: #44 dangerman

this here is Dick being a dick
Don’t be a dick like Dick

let’s take a break

;-)

These are all social constraints!

(Is wrench’ around…I might have to take off running)

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:20:38pm

re: #61 gwangung

Seriously. I don’t see ANYTHING disrespectful about that outfit. It’s sharp looking, but fairly modest.

These are the same kind of tennis officials who went insane when Andre Agassi didn’t wear all white to Wimbledon. And they’re still nuts when it comes to attire.

People wear leggings all the time. Unitards are fine IMO.

Let her wear that outfit and throw on the miniskirt to go with it. That conforms.

FUCK EM.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:22:06pm

re: #37 gocart mozart

This seems legit.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:22:21pm
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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:23:04pm

re: #69 lawhawk

These are the same kind of tennis officials who went insane when Andre Agassi didn’t wear all white to Wimbledon. And they’re still nuts when it comes to attire.

People wear leggings all the time. Unitards are fine IMO.

Let her wear that outfit and throw on the miniskirt to go with it. That conforms.

FUCK EM.

Maybe if they make the outfit (and Serena) white, all will be well.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:24:39pm

re: #48 dangerman

More than half of my family is full goose bozo. (I’m stealing that phrase forever.)

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:25:08pm

re: #69 lawhawk

These are the same kind of tennis officials who went insane when Andre Agassi didn’t wear all white to Wimbledon. And they’re still nuts when it comes to attire.

People wear leggings all the time. Unitards are fine IMO.

Let her wear that outfit and throw on the miniskirt to go with it. That conforms.

FUCK EM.

we’ve moved on to tennis miniskirts

must be a slow hour or two in trumpville

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:26:17pm

O_o

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:26:33pm

re: #74 dangerman

we’ve moved on to tennis miniskirts

must be a slow hour or two in trumpville

Lots of things to tackle. We’re multitasking.

But yes, compared to the other Friday this week, today is absolutely boring.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:27:34pm

re: #73 plansbandc

More than half of my family is full goose bozo. (I’m stealing that phrase forever.)

i mean this sincerely
i am so grateful my family doesnt have to deal with any of that

i think i got full goose bozo from the firesign theater waaaaay back in the 70s

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:27:51pm
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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:28:24pm

Now this makes me think there was a fix in on the Manafort trial.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:29:16pm

re: #61 gwangung

Seriously. I don’t see ANYTHING disrespectful about that outfit. It’s sharp looking, but fairly modest.

Black girl curves, er muscles imo.

They want Steffi Graf back. Or Chrissy.

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lawhawk  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:29:42pm

re: #74 dangerman

Multitasking before the Friday night news dump (which is inevitable, since every day has a Friday night news dump these days, and twice on Tuesdays).

Speaking of which…. it feels like months ago that Manafort and Cohen were found guilty and entered guilty plea (as part of a deal), and yet it was only this past Tuesday.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:29:48pm

re: #75 MsJ

O_o

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I missed the word ‘fan’ at first. Was not as surprised as I shoulda been.

The ‘shoulda’ is, of course, a social construct. (Dangerman, can you handle ObserverArt from here? I gotta wrap some handlebars. Thanks.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:31:29pm

re: #63 Sir John Barron

I’ll admit I find that amazing.

In 1978, or even 1968, that is shocking. 1958, sure.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:33:47pm

re: #75 MsJ

O_o

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Just the price of Republican free speech, filling idiot’s heads with fear and hate. At least this one wasn’t smart enough to build a bomb.

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Sir John Barron  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:33:48pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In 1978, or even 1968, that is shocking. 1958, sure.

‘58 would be the absolute latest I’d have expected something like that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:34:51pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In 1978, or even 1968, that is shocking. 1958, sure.

The future is unevenly distributed. Some areas take a lot longer to take to human rights for everyone.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:36:22pm

re: #79 MsJ

Now this makes me think there was a fix in on the Manafort trial.

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these guys can barely master checkers let alone multi dimensional chess

Lone Holdout Juror Actually Made It More Likely That Paul Manafort Will Go to Jail Even if Trump Pardons Him

Lone Holdout is gonna be as popular as Steve Bartman

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:36:59pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:39:13pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:41:01pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:41:43pm

re: #90 MsJ

What the actual bejesusing fuck.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:41:48pm

re: #83 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In 1978, or even 1968, that is shocking. 1958, sure.

We often forget how much progress has been made within our lifetimes. Cripes, it was only 1965 that Griswold v Connecticut made it legal for married couples to use contraception.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:43:29pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:43:47pm

This has to be a bot.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:44:08pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

4.1% 2Q GDP, 4% unemployment, growing economy for 8+ years (thanks, Obama!), and he’s at 38% approval. Any other President, Republican or Democrat, with these numbers and can act like an adult doesn’t need an IQ over 80 to have an approval number at 52% right now, and he’s at 60% DISAPPROVAL.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:44:20pm

Went to go look, I was off by four years:

1974: Equal Credit Opportunity Act passes in the US. Until then, banks required single, widowed or divorced women to bring a man along to cosign any credit application, regardless of their income. They would also discount the value of those wages when considering how much credit to grant, by as much as 50%.

I realize that discredits my whole argument, but I wanted to set the record straight. (I think I quoted the date correctly to my mom when I had that discussion because it was something I had read recently.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:46:15pm
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nines09  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:46:36pm

In and out and checking out some artists I followed through the years on my broken Rolodex mind.
Just had one come into my head. Tab Benoit.
One studio.
One live.

Tab Benoit - Standing on the Bank

Tab Benoit - Louisiana Style

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:47:27pm
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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:47:50pm

reactiongifs.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:48:24pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

This has to be a bot.

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The numbers in the Twitter handle are a dead giveaway.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:48:51pm

re: #100 MsJ

You can’t have conspiracy theories actually be tested against evidence.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:49:16pm
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Teddy's Person  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:52:23pm

re: #61 gwangung

Seriously. I don’t see ANYTHING disrespectful about that outfit. It’s sharp looking, but fairly modest.

The Tennis World has been clutching their pearls over Serena Williams’ outfit since she first started playing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:52:38pm

RWW Thread

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:53:04pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

What kind of a dickhead puts MBA in his twitter handle?
Oh yeah.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:53:19pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

This has to be a bot.

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Yup. Hi, Sergei!

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:54:25pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

This has to be a bot.

Are you insane? The President is looking into sending possible armed forces in there to stop the killings.

what the hell are “possible armed forces”?

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:56:05pm

re: #95 Ace Rothstein

4.1% 2Q GDP, 4% unemployment, growing economy for 8+ years (thanks, Obama!), and he’s at 38% approval. Any other President, Republican or Democrat, with these numbers and can act like an adult doesn’t need an IQ over 80 to have an approval number at 52% right now, and he’s at 60% DISAPPROVAL.

as i said this AM

he has never not been underwater
rcp averages
right now about -9.3
max around -21.1

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:57:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:58:23pm

re: #110 jaunte

And here the wingnuts complain that right-wingers don’t get verified.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:58:45pm

re: #108 dangerman

what the hell are “possible armed forces”?

They may, or may not have guns?

Maybe it’s a Shrodinger thing, where they will exist in both armed and unarmed states until you open the box they leave the troop transport.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:59:08pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

RWW Thread

There are simply no words to explicate the profound and ineffable honor of meeting @realDonaldTrump in the tabernacle of liberty, the Oval Office. @LynnShawProd and I so appreciate @POTUS’ kindness and courtesy. #MAGA

explicate…. i dont think that word means what you think it means

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 1:59:57pm

re: #110 jaunte

Can you change the name text after being verified? The UID doesn’t impersonate, just the text.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:00:55pm

re: #110 jaunte

He changed his picture and profile picture back.

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:01:29pm
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:02:15pm

potage parmentier tonight
thanks julia

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:02:36pm
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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:03:16pm

re: #77 dangerman

Nice! My ex was a big fan.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:03:28pm

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:03:38pm

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

If Trump admits his imaginary treaty with North Korea is off, does he have to return his imaginary Nobel Prize?

i imagine so

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:05:20pm
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jaunte  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:05:38pm

Republicans, still discovering video.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:06:02pm
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:06:26pm

re: #119 plansbandc

Nice! My ex was a big fan.

long term memory is an odd thing
i can still spout Dont crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers almost verbatim

let’s talk about your car
it’s screaming “wash me please”….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:06:54pm

re: #124 MsJ

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I literally had to check myself when I read the headline. Don’t get your hopes up, don’t get your hopes up… President Ryan still isn’t a happy thought…

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:09:32pm

re: #124 MsJ

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like i said, it was a loooong two or three hours just then
tennis skirts indeed

annnd we’re back

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:11:21pm

re: #126 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I literally had to check myself when I read the headline. Don’t get your hopes up, don’t get your hopes up… President Ryan still isn’t a happy thought…

yeah, we’re dreaming here
still likely nothing can happen that fast
it would be after the election, ryan’s out and….well you can do the rest

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gocart mozart  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:11:46pm

Who Trump associates with.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:12:34pm

re: #128 dangerman

yeah, we’re dreaming here
still likely nothing can happen that fast
it would be after the election, ryan’s out and….well you can do the rest

Also, it’s not time to start dancing in the streets until federal marshals are escorting Messrs. Trump and Pence from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest in handcuffs.

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jaunte  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:13:35pm

re: #129 gocart mozart

Clown Show

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:13:42pm

re: #126 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I literally had to check myself when I read the headline. Don’t get your hopes up, don’t get your hopes up… President Ryan still isn’t a happy thought…

These things take time. President Pelosi might be next in line. 😂

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makeitstop  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:14:40pm

re: #124 MsJ

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That’s pretty thin soup in that article. It only says that reporters are looking, not anyone with any legal authority.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:15:45pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Also, it’s not time to start dancing in the streets until federal marshals are escorting Messrs. Trump and Pence from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest in handcuffs.

Has anyone with Secret Service protection ever been arrested? Would there be a firefight between the U.S. Marshals and the SS?

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:17:36pm

re: #133 makeitstop

That’s pretty thin soup in that article. It only says that reporters are looking, not anyone with any legal authority.

Stop raining on my damn parade!

Barbra Streisand: Don’t Rain On My Parade

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:18:07pm

re: #133 makeitstop

That’s pretty thin soup in that article. It only says that reporters are looking, not anyone with any legal authority.

It comes across as a propaganda site.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:18:16pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:18:42pm

re: #134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Has anyone with Secret Service protection ever been arrested? Would there be a firefight between the U.S. Marshals and the SS?

SS would probably make the arrest.

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freetoken  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:18:49pm

re: #126 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I literally had to check myself when I read the headline. Don’t get your hopes up, don’t get your hopes up… President Ryan still isn’t a happy thought…

That article is not really news, but someone’s hopes.

Yes, Pence has always been implicated as he was the choice of Manafort and supposedly Pence was in various meetings with the campaign.

But until it is announced that Pence is being investigated, I doubt he is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:19:58pm

re: #124 MsJ

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Imagine this scenario…

Dems take House and Senate. Pelosi becomes Speaker

Pence resigns/impeached. With Trump under a cloud, Congress won’t confirm his choice for VP.

Trump impeached and convicted, removed from office.

Nancy Pelosi becomes President.

The crazy thing about this is that it’s not crazy.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:21:17pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:21:20pm

re: #134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Has anyone with Secret Service protection ever been arrested? Would there be a firefight between the U.S. Marshals and the SS?

To answer your first question, it doesn’t appear to be so (not that I have seen.) The Secret Service does perform law enforcement duties (originally being the enforcement arm of the Treasury Department), so to echo re: #138 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis, there would probably be some interesting back-and-forth, but the Secret Service would probably make the arrest.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:22:18pm

re: #138 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

SS would probably make the arrest.

Yeah. They protect the President, not Donald Trump. He just happens to be President at the moment. If he were impeached, convicted, and removed from office, he would not be President and they would not be protecting him.

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ericblair  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:23:13pm

re: #134 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Has anyone with Secret Service protection ever been arrested? Would there be a firefight between the U.S. Marshals and the SS?

Why would the SS resist? They’re not the Praetorian guards. “Oh, you got a warrant? He’s right there. We’ll come with you.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:24:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:27:33pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:27:34pm

Directly from the Secret Service website:

What legal authority and powers do Secret Service agents have?
Under Title 18, Section 3056, of the United States Code, agents and officers of the United States Secret Service can:

Carry firearms
Execute warrants issued under the laws of the United States
Make arrests without warrants for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony recognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed such felony
Offer and pay rewards for services and information leading to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation of the law that the Secret Service is authorized to enforce
Investigate fraud in connection with identification documents, fraudulent commerce, fictitious instruments and foreign securities and
Perform other functions and duties authorized by law
The Secret Service works closely with the United States Attorney’s Office in both protective and investigative matters.

When it comes to the potential arrest of the President of the United States, it would mostly be in the paperwork of the thing, and making sure all the relevant formalities were followed.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:30:21pm

You know, Mr. Weisselberg looks like the perfect person to be in a courtroom explaining a bunch of dodgy numbers and then looking over his bookish glasses when asked to point to the man that gave him the directions to do what he was doing.

“Mr. Donald Trump”

Can you identify him for the court?

“He’s the rather large, slightly orange man sitting in front of me at the defense table. I know him well, I did many questionable accounting practices in my years with Mr. Trump. At his direction and against my better judgment, of course.”

The stuff of classic movies.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:32:06pm

re: #84 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Just the price of Republican free speech, filling idiot’s heads with fear and hate. At least this one wasn’t smart enough to build a bomb.

Another rightwing terrorist mentally disturbed individual attacks (I’m assuming he’s white).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:32:29pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:33:45pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Posted wrong link, refresh #150

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:35:00pm

Local news is showing a fairly large rancorous group of protesters out in front of the Columbus Convention Center. Trump speaks at 6:00 PM or so at the Ohio Republican Party Annual Dinner. One sign…”Unindicted Co-Conspirator”

They’ll probably sneak Trump in one of the back loading areas so he doesn’t have to see the crowd out front.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:37:01pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

iZac will be pissed.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:40:00pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

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My new neighbors!!! I missed them a lot.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:41:53pm

The Kent State Gun Girl has some competition.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:44:33pm

re: #132 MsJ

These things take time. President Pelosi might be next in line. 😂

just for kicks, remember this:

if the writing IS on the wall,
the speaker of the house can be anyone
doesnt have to be a member of congress

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:44:36pm

re: #124 MsJ

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Hello President Gym Jordan!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:45:12pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

The Kent State Gun Girl has some competition.

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They know exactly what effect these pictures will have on their constituents: Namely, the women will turn it off, and the men will be left mesmerized and drooling, ready for fresh instructions.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:45:48pm

re: #138 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

SS would probably beg to make the arrest.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:46:46pm

Free live stream Umphrey’s McGee at the Lockn Festival tonight. Taylor is sitting in with them. relix.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:47:16pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:48:59pm

re: #161 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:50:03pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Imagine this scenario…

Dems take House and Senate. Pelosi becomes Speaker

Pence resigns/impeached. With Trump under a cloud, Congress won’t confirm his choice for VP.

Trump impeached and convicted, removed from office.

Nancy Pelosi becomes President.

The crazy thing about this is that it’s not crazy.

It would drive the right apoplectic. Completely.

And for the rest of y’all, I know it’s not true…I just want it to be. Can’t you allow a girl a little fantasy?? 😉😂

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:50:09pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Imagine this scenario…

Dems take House and Senate. Pelosi becomes Speaker

Pence resigns/impeached. With Trump under a cloud, Congress won’t confirm his choice for VP.

Trump impeached and convicted, removed from office.

Nancy Pelosi becomes President.

The crazy thing about this is that it’s not crazy.

Hard to imagine getting a bunch of GOP Senators to vote to make Pelosi President. The evidence against Trump would have to be overwhelming. Like, a tape of him discussing the plan for Russian Intelligence to hack Democratic emails on behalf of his Campaign.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:50:15pm

re: #102 Belafon

You can’t have conspiracy theories actually be tested against evidence.

You can, but eventually you have to believe that everyone but you is in on the conspiracy and is making up the “evidence”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:51:16pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

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Now that’s a bombshell piece of News late Friday!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:51:36pm

re: #165 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You can, but eventually you have to believe that everyone but you is in on the conspiracy and is making up the “evidence”.

Which, as I mentioned in a previous thread, literally defines the worst possible conspiracy theory.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:52:00pm

re: #161 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

She seems a lot cooler than gun-nut girl.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:52:09pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

The Kent State Gun Girl has some competition.

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Also, that it not the “Kent State Gun Girl”
this is

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:52:28pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:53:26pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Also, that it not the “Kent State Gun Girl”
this is

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Women with guns still get assaulted, raped, and killed.

Contrariwise, a woman I know survived an encounter with a suspected serial rapist (later confirmed) with no gun. Although she had hand-to-hand training and basically completely laid him out the moment he tried to abduct her.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:53:56pm

What a cool opal! reddit.com

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:54:01pm
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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:54:19pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

The Kent State Gun Girl has some competition.

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And this one is prettier. The only thing Fox really cares about.

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:56:54pm

This woman is a Coptic Christian doctor in Toronto and openly supporting a Nazi candidate for the mayoral campaign of Toronto.

I think her employer needs to be scrutinized for having this woman treating patients if she’s willing to endorse a vile Nazi.

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:57:35pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

Going undercover as most won’t be interested—OSU/Urban Meyer report

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Skip Intro  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:57:53pm
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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:58:45pm

re: #157 Big Beautiful Door

Hello President Gym Jordan!

DOOOOOD. No. Christ.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 2:59:58pm

re: #178 MsJ

DOOOOOD. No. Christ.

Christ would be a pretty good President, but I don’t think He’s all that interested in the job.

///

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:00:45pm

re: #164 Big Beautiful Door

Hard to imagine getting a bunch of GOP Senators to vote to make Pelosi President. The evidence against Trump would have to be overwhelming. Like, a tape of him discussing the plan for Russian Intelligence to hack Democratic emails on behalf of his Campaign.

Line of succession is voted on?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:01:27pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Also, that it not the “Kent State Gun Girl”
this is

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I said those pictures were some other girl who is competing with “Kent State Gun Girl” for “Sexy Fox News Gun Girl”

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:02:13pm

Read the whole thread

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:03:11pm

re: #181 The Vicious Babushka

I said those pictures were some other girl who is competing with “Kent State Gun Girl” for “Sexy Fox News Gun Girl”

Assuming, of course, that Dana Loesch doesn’t abandon the NRA to try to claim that title.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:04:59pm

re: #180 MsJ

Line of succession is voted on?

If Pence was already gone, and Trump was being impeached, and the Senate voted to remove him, the Speaker of the House would become President. So if Pelosi becomes Speaker next year, the 67th vote to remove Trump from office, which would be cast by a Republican, would make Pelosi President (assuming there is no VP).

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sagehen  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:05:24pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

We often forget how much progress has been made within our lifetimes. Cripes, it was only 1965 that Griswold v Connecticut made it legal for married couples to use contraception.

And it was 1972 when Eisenstadt v. Baird said that unmarried women could also get contraception…

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:05:29pm

re: #160 plansbandc

And Widespread Panic later! :)

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:06:33pm

re: #184 Big Beautiful Door

If Pence was already gone, and Trump was being impeached, and the Senate voted to remove him, the Speaker of the House would become President. So if Pelosi becomes Speaker next year, the 67th vote to remove Trump from office, which would be cast by a Republican, would make Pelosi President (assuming there is no VP).

That’s what I thought.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:08:08pm

LOL!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:08:22pm
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:09:37pm

A fair question I read at pw

So, in the vernacular of a ‘witch hunt’, what does it mean when your lawyer, accountant, and best newspaper friend all agree to inform about crimes you’ve committed?

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:10:04pm

re: #176 BeachDem

Going undercover as most won’t be interested—OSU/Urban Meyer report

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:10:40pm

re: #190 dangerman

A fair question a read at pw

It means you’re an honest-to-God witch and you might want to start looking for your broomstick.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:10:53pm

re: #176 BeachDem

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:13:51pm
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sagehen  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:15:33pm

re: #156 dangerman

just for kicks, remember this:

if the writing IS on the wall,
the speaker of the house can be anyone
doesnt have to be a member of congress

If they pick Hillary Clinton, I would laugh and laugh and laugh…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:16:42pm

re: #195 sagehen

If they pick Hillary Clinton, I would laugh and laugh and laugh…

The wingnuts would probably try to start their bloody “2nd Amendment” revolution over that.

…Boy, any way you look at it, it’s win-win, isn’t it?

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mmmirele  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:16:49pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dammit, Jeff, your church is overstepping its boundaries by sending out an email to every Mormon in Utah who has an email account on file with the church to tell them to vote no on Proposition 2, which would legalize medical cannabis.

And then you come up with this kind of stupid. If you don’t watch out, your church is really going to be called “Zionology”. [Background on that—the head of the Mormon church said last week that the church should be called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on first mention and ‘The Church” or “The Church of Jesus Christ” on second. Of course that’s pretentious as hell, so wags have been coming up with other names. The ones that appear to be sticking are “The church formerly known as Mormon” and “Ziontology.”]

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:18:39pm
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:19:49pm

Matt Horn
@maxui
Dear #American friends.
I am a White South African living in South Africa.
I promise you the governement is not taking white owned land
nor is there a white genocide being perpetuated here.
Your president is a fucking loon,.
Thanks
Matt

Matt got 189k hearts for that

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:20:30pm

re: #199 dangerman

Excuse me, Matt, but loons are a protected species here. We prefer to use the term “tangerine wankmaggot”.

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mmmirele  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:21:10pm

re: #189 The Vicious Babushka

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In 1993 I visited DC…there was an overpass in DC where you could see the Mormon temple above it—and yes, there was “Surrender Dorothy” written in spray paint on the overpass. Apparently it was a known thing and kind of a tourist attraction. The “Surrender Donald” is new.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:21:40pm

I hope this is true.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:22:46pm

re: #202 Patricia Kayden

I hope this is true.

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Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick. No wonder Hannity came unglued after Cohen pled guilty.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:22:48pm

re: #197 mmmirele

Dammit, Jeff, your church is overstepping its boundaries by sending out an email to every Mormon in Utah who has an email account on file with the church to tell them to vote no on Proposition 2, which would legalize medical cannabis.

And then you come up with this kind of stupid. If you don’t watch out, your church is really going to be called “Zionology”. [Background on that—the head of the Mormon church said last week that the church should be called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on first mention and ‘The Church” or “The Church of Jesus Christ” on second. Of course that’s pretentious as hell, so wags have been coming up with other names. The ones that appear to be sticking are “The church formerly known as Mormon” and “Ziontology.”]

The Mormony mcmormanface church
Still shorter than tcojcolds

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:23:57pm

re: #198 goddamnedfrank

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Who the fuck wrote this ridiculous hot garbage and had they ever heard of Aretha Franklin before being given this assignment

I’ve been playing her all week

I miss her already

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:26:14pm

re: #182 electrotek

I wonder how well a Nazi will do in a multicultural city like Toronto. But there is an extremely conservative Premier in Ontario so who knows.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:27:04pm

re: #203 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The linked article is from June though so it makes me wonder if it’s actually true. Hope so.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:28:53pm

re: #202 Patricia Kayden

I hope this is true.

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I want it to be true, big time, but it’s @funder, so who knows?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:29:26pm

Well, this was fun. I didn’t post the first two exchanges from last night because I wanted to keep it private but now I’m fucking done.

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:29:45pm

re: #185 sagehen

And it was 1972 when Eisenstadt v. Baird said that unmarried women could also get contraception…

I remember it well. (Also remember being in the ob/gyn office and having them call out MISS ———-, and all eyes staring at me as if I was an ax murderer.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:33:13pm

re: #207 Patricia Kayden

The linked article is from June though so it makes me wonder if it’s actually true. Hope so.

That’ll learn me to actually RTFA. I kinda doubt it, then.

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:34:06pm

*shakes head*

Facebook Post

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:34:36pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

Ugh. Fucking hell. Part of the reason we have so many repeat offenders (and eventual “lifers”) is because the prison system is complete garbage. We are focusing too heavily on the punishment aspect and not enough on rehabilitation. It’s so fucking stupid. We break people, then we say, “Okay, we’re cool now, go on out there and have fun,” and expect them not to act completely broken!

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:35:41pm

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

I wonder how well a Nazi will do in a multicultural city like Toronto. But there is an extremely conservative Premier in Ontario so who knows.

One who got fired from The Rebel of all places!

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:36:12pm

re: #209 goddamnedfrank

Well, this was fun. I didn’t post the first two exchanges from last night because I wanted to keep it private but now I’m fucking done.

[I don’t think the twitter format is well suited to your personality type. ]

Uh oh. Better take a personality test at Facebook!

//oh yeah, these are for…was it lepers?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:36:32pm

re: #213 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. Fucking hell. Part of the reason we have so many repeat offenders (and eventual “lifers”) is because the prison system is complete garbage. We are focusing too heavily on the punishment aspect and not enough on rehabilitation. It’s so fucking stupid. We break people, then we say, “Okay, we’re cool now, go on out there and have fun,” and expect them not to act completely broken!

I muted her. That level of oblivious bullshit just can’t be reasoned with.

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jeffreyw  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:39:43pm

re: #212 Teukka

*shakes head*

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Is the girl gonna lay an egg, or will they abort? Bird flu, ya know?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:41:03pm

re: #201 mmmirele

In 1993 I visited DC…there was an overpass in DC where you could see the Mormon temple above it—and yes, there was “Surrender Dorothy” written in spray paint on the overpass. Apparently it was a known thing and kind of a tourist attraction. The “Surrender Donald” is new.

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Belafon  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:41:42pm

re: #156 dangerman

just for kicks, remember this:

if the writing IS on the wall,
the speaker of the house can be anyone
doesnt have to be a member of congress

Speaker Hillary Clinton.

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William Lewis  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:43:15pm

re: #213 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. Fucking hell. Part of the reason we have so many repeat offenders (and eventual “lifers”) is because the prison system is complete garbage. We are focusing too heavily on the punishment aspect and not enough on rehabilitation. It’s so fucking stupid. We break people, then we say, “Okay, we’re cool now, go on out there and have fun,” and expect them not to act completely broken!

Once again the various social democracies of Scandinavia point the way we should be going as a nation…

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:43:37pm

re: #191 ObserverArt

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:44:22pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:44:35pm

JFC he’s insane and he’s a total racist. But we already know that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:44:47pm

re: #220 William Lewis

Once again the various social democracies of Scandinavia point the way we should be going as a nation…

Scandinavian countries have their fair share of problems, but they do a hell of a lot of things a hell of a lot better than we do, that’s for sure.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:45:35pm

re: #212 Teukka

*shakes head*

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What the hell did she fall on??????

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:47:08pm

re: #225 dangerman

What the hell did she fall on??????

It’s not what she fell on, it’s what she fell off. And in this case, the answer appears to be, “A 64-story building,” if her brain capacity is any indication.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:48:01pm

re: #225 dangerman

What the hell did she fall on??????

Obviously she fell on some random penis that was just out there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:48:30pm
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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:48:53pm

re: #222 goddamnedfrank

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We have long since passed if “he’s speaking he’s lying”

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electrotek  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:48:59pm

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:49:27pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

Obviously she fell on some random penis that was just out there.

“I’m sorry, sir, I don’t know what happened, but your daughter just fell on it randomly when she was walking by my house. Please don’t shoot me.”

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:49:27pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

Obviously she fell on some random penis that was just out there.

I think her mom fell—for the story her daughter told her.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:49:38pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

I went ahead a gave her a block. It’s only what she deserves.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:50:38pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

Obviously she fell on some random penis that was just out there.

It was a grapefruit pitch. I knew someone would swat it

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:51:01pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:52:31pm

Dude, it’s fucking August.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:52:34pm

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

[Republicans are now standing up for America]

If there’s anyone left in the Republican Party when we get rid of Trump, those Republicans need to apologize TO America.

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:54:48pm

re: #193 plansbandc

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:57:31pm

re: #225 dangerman

What the hell did she fall on??????

I’d, and I’m just taking a stab in the dark here, say that for her to get pregnant, she fell on someone’s dick.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:58:10pm

re: #173 Patricia Kayden

I hope Nate Silver is wrong.

fivethirtyeight.com

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whitebeach  Aug 24, 2018 • 3:58:40pm

re: #155 The Vicious Babushka

The Kent State Gun Girl has some competition.

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To one of a certain age, the epithet “Kent State Gun Girl” has a resonance that, you know, like … grates.

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:00:34pm

In 15 minutes Umphrey’s McGee takes the stage at the Lockn Festival in Virginia, Jason Bonham is sitting in and they’re going to play a bunch of Led Zeppelin tunes. If you like Led Zeppelin definitely tune in, The Umphreys *slays* Led Zeppelin. Free stream here.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:01:11pm
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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:01:39pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

Taylor’s sitting in too.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:01:51pm

re: #241 whitebeach

To one of a certain age, the epithet “Kent State Gun Girl” has a resonance that, you know, like … grates.

One wonders if she’s even aware of the history

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:01:52pm

re: #240 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s UpChuck Johnson’s district. Something in the water.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:01:59pm

re: #241 whitebeach

To one of a certain age, the epithet “Kent State Gun Girl” has a resonance that, you know, like … grates.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:03:51pm

re: #241 whitebeach

To one of a certain age, the epithet “Kent State Gun Girl” has a resonance that, you know, like … grates.

Does it help that she is incredibly fracking stupid?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:04:47pm
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meteor  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:05:27pm

David Bowie - Drive-In Saturday

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:05:58pm
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freetoken  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:06:07pm

re: #240 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

538 still has Hunter the Lesser an overwhelming favorite to win.

Now, I will not be surprised if The Lesser does win reelection. Yet I’ve got to think that the indictments have made a bigger dent than projected.

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Interesting Times  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:14:11pm

re: #237 wrenchwench

You weren’t online when I first saw this, so here it is again:

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:15:58pm

re: #240 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Current ratings show 88.8 vs. 11.2. Not great, but better than a week ago.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:16:38pm

re: #253 Interesting Times

This would be really nice for New Mexico. The burrs and goatheads are murder on bike tires.

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ObserverArt  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:16:48pm

re: #228 The Vicious Babushka

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He visited Nationwide Children’s Hospital. It’s not far from my house. There were some hospital staff that weren’t real keen on his and Melania’s visit.

If no one has heard, Zach Klein, our city attorney, is one of the many attorneys from several cities that have joined into a lawsuit going against Trump for ignoring the law of the land; the ACA.

He was pretty critical of Trump showing up at a place where a lot of sick kids from young families struggle to afford healthcare and many will have a lifetime of preexisting conditions.

Yeah it is a beautiful, modern, all new, huge hospital complex. And, it is filled with a lot of very sick little kids which makes it very real. Trump’s wife wants to be seen there for the great work they do. Be best.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:18:36pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:19:05pm

re: #253 Interesting Times

You weren’t online when I first saw this, so here it is again:

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I won’t hold my breath. All the ways they’ve tried so far have failed miserably. But thanks for sharing. Gives me an excuse to post this again:

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:19:37pm

re: #253 Interesting Times

You weren’t online when I first saw this, so here it is again:

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I’m gonna go out on a limb and predict that those things drastically increase rotational mass, which is generally not a good thing.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:22:34pm

re: #255 plansbandc

This would be really nice for New Mexico. The burrs and goatheads are murder on bike tires.

I have the solution. True Goo. The guy who makes it in Colorado delivers it personally all over the Southwest. Your local bike shop will have it.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:24:02pm

re: #259 goddamnedfrank

I’m gonna go out on a limb and predict that those things massively increase rotational mass, which is generally not a good thing.

I think the point was that their use in relatively low-speed (urban/cruiser environments) would be a distinct advantage.

It’s certainly not a competitive tire, unless they can toughen it be a useful trail tire.

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freetoken  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:25:23pm

Lane is hitting unfavorable conditions, so hopefully HI will not get any hurricane winds.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:26:26pm

re: #262 freetoken

Lane is hitting unfavorable conditions, so hopefully HI will not get any hurricane winds.

I hope it spares the house I am going to buy after I win the Mega-Millions tonight.

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:26:57pm

re: #262 freetoken

Lane is hitting unfavorable conditions, so hopefully HI will not get any hurricane winds.

Yeah, they predicted that vertical shear would increase to over thirty knots. That’ll tear it up right quick. Still one hell of a rainmaker, though.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:28:43pm

re: #262 freetoken

Lane is hitting unfavorable conditions, so hopefully HI will not get any hurricane winds.

We have a flash flood warning in effect until 6 AM. Hasn’t rained at all, so far. But it’s been rumbling for about an hour. Mr. w just called to say the system is forming right above us. He spent enough time in the Navy to have some meteorological abilities.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:29:26pm

re: #261 austin_blue

I think the point was that their use in relatively low-speed (urban/cruiser environments) would be a distinct advantage.

It’s certainly not a competitive tire, unless they can toughen it be a useful trail tire.

Urban / cruiser is where mass is especially unwanted, because the cyclist has to frequently accelerate, stop and accelerate again. The only time increased mass at the rim is really an advantage is during time trials, and only then when it’s in the form of an aerodynamic rim shape that reduces drag.

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Interesting Times  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:29:34pm

Good point:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:29:55pm

re: #265 wrenchwench

We have a flash flood warning in effect until 6 AM. Hasn’t rained at all, so far. But it’s been rumbling for about an hour. Mr. w just called to say the system is forming right above us. He spent enough time in the Navy to have some meteorological abilities.

We finally got a decent rainfall today, so hopefully everything will stop being brown and dead and I can spray it with herbicides so it goes back to being brown and dead… permanently.

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wrenchwench  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:32:48pm

re: #268 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We finally got a decent rainfall today, so hopefully everything will stop being brown and dead and I can spray it with herbicides so it goes back to being brown and dead… permanently.

Folks around here ignore their lawns all summer, letting them go brown, then the rainy season starts, and some of them can’t get into the mowing mood fast enough. I passed some 3’ high lawns on my walk to work today.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:34:30pm

re: #269 wrenchwench

Folks around here ignore their lawns all summer, letting them go brown, then the rainy season starts, and some of them can’t get into the mowing mood fast enough. I passed some 3’ high lawns on my walk to work today.

Folks around here mow their lawns obsessively. Day, night, rain, sun, or snow. Many of the yards up the hill here, where I live, have sprinkler systems that run on a pre-set schedule no matter the moisture level. My yard? It’s half weeds and I haven’t mowed it in almost a month because it hasn’t been growing.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:38:20pm

re: #240 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Dang. So there is pretty much nothing he could do that would make him unpalatable to those voters. Sigh.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:38:38pm

re: #267 Interesting Times

Good point:

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hahahaha

TONIGHT THE USA AND OUR ALLIES NORTH KOREA, RUSSIA, CHINA and THE PHILIPPINES HAVE DECIDED TO NUKE NATO COUNTRIES WHO HAVE NOT PAID THEIR FAIR SHARE!

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:39:35pm

Daniel Dale sums up the yam’s Ohio speech:

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:48:30pm

Decided to tweet to Sen John McCain (R-AZ) wishing him the best.

I know that I nor anyone else here agrees with him or his politics, but why not give him proper respects?

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:57:56pm

And then there’s this incomprehensible bullshit:

and the truth:

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2018 • 4:59:45pm

re: #274 Teukka

Decided to tweet to Sen John McCain (R-AZ) wishing him the best.

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I know that I nor anyone else here agrees with him or his politics, but why not give him proper respects?

Why not indeed? Many R’s did the same thing in Teddy’s last days when he was dying from a similar GB. The gaspers, of course, wished him a cruel and painful, death, but we should all be better than that. It costs us nothing and is the right thing to do.

Good for you, and thanks from Austin. You are one of the good guys and a boon to both Finns and Swedes.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:02:58pm

re: #274 Teukka

Decided to tweet to Sen John McCain (R-AZ) wishing him the best.

[Embedded content]

I know that I nor anyone else here agrees with him or his politics, but why not give him proper respects?

Absolutely.

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Teukka  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:03:46pm

re: #276 austin_blue

Why not indeed? Many R’s did the same thing in Teddy’s last days when he was dying from a similar GB. The gaspers, of course, wished him a cruel and painful, death, but we should all be better than that. It costs us nothing and is the right thing to do.

Good for you, and thanks from Austin. You are one of the good guys and a boon to both Finns and Swedes.

Most of us Finns get taught from early on to show proper respects to heroes, even when they don’t have the blue cross on white background on their arm. Just my Finnish heritage and upbringing kicking in…

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Kragar  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:05:55pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:06:48pm

re: #276 austin_blue

Why not indeed? Many R’s did the same thing in Teddy’s last days when he was dying from a similar GB. The gaspers, of course, wished him acruel and painful, death, but we should all be better than that. It costs us nothing and is the right thing to do.

Good for you, and thanks from Austin. You are one of the good guys and a boon to both Finns and Swedes.

I respect his service, both in the armed forces and in the Senate. His asshole brand of politics aside, he has dedicated the majority of his life in service to his country, and that’s absolutely worth my respect.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:08:56pm

Neighbor works at geek squad. I just bombarded him, cuz I give his dog love, with my old bose speaker & iPod. It won’t play. I want it working.

He accepted the challenge.

Love it here.

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:08:59pm

re: #280 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I respect who he was pre Palin. And had he not picked her as his running mate, I would have voted for him for President.

I’m sorry that he and his family are dealing with cancer. Fuck cancer.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:09:48pm

re: #282 plansbandc

I respect who he was pre Palin. And had he not picked her as his running mate, I would have voted for him for President.

I’m sorry that he and his family are dealing with cancer. Fuck cancer.

Eleventy billion times THIS.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:10:57pm

re: #274 Teukka

Decided to tweet to Sen John McCain (R-AZ) wishing him the best.

[Embedded content]

I know that I nor anyone else here agrees with him or his politics, but why not give him proper respects?

As an Arizonan, Thank you…… Cindy and I went to the same HS. She was a year ahead. and we were acquainted. I sent a note thru private channels.

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:13:16pm

re: #279 Kragar

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I’m kinda surprised he didn’t share his thoughts on Urban Meyer, being as he’s such a yoooge sports guy and he was in Columbus. Probably couldn’t figure out how to make it a story about himself.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:15:28pm
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Sea Mexican!  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:16:27pm

re: #13 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Very, very weird segway…

Click to Reveal

There’s a Transformers G1 fan fiction called Best First. The title of the story is a call echoed by the Autobot leader (one before Optimus) for the Decepticon leader (one before Megatron) to “send the best first”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:16:45pm

re: #286 Stanley Sea

TAPPER: I hope I don’t run this clip for another 50 years. But how do you want the American people to remember you?

MCCAIN: He served his country and not always right. Made a lot of mistakes. Made a lot of errors, but served his country. And I hope we could add honorably.

God damn it. That makes me actually, begrudgingly respect him.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:17:41pm

He admitted mistakes. I wish him well & will remember him as a patriot (as bs as that is) but it is

Shook his hand in 2000.

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KGxvi  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:18:13pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. They protect the President, not Donald Trump. He just happens to be President at the moment. If he were impeached, convicted, and removed from office, he would not be President and they would not be protecting him.

Former presidents and First Ladies have lifetime Secret Service protection. Children of former presidents have protection for five years or until 18, which comes second. I think same applies for VP, but not sure. Again, though, doesn’t matter, if Trump were to be arrested, they wouldn’t stop which ever agency is making the arrest. And more likely, Trump would get the white collar treatment of being able to turn himself in

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:18:59pm

re: #288 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

God damn it. That makes me actually, begrudgingly respect him.

Regardless, he has had a long painful life of service to the country….. And I’m sure he’s pissed to high heaven at this point.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:20:24pm

I remember the fucks celebrating Ted Kennedy’s death.

I will never be them.

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KGxvi  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:21:50pm

re: #289 Stanley Sea

He admitted mistakes. I wish him well & will remember him as a patriot (as bs as that is) but it is

Shook his hand in 2000.

I still think he was the best choice in 2000. Was disappointed by some of his choices since then, but always liked him

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:24:35pm

re: #292 Stanley Sea

I remember the fucks celebrating Ted Kennedy’s death.

I will never be them.

There is that. However much I may dislike a man - even Donald J. Fucking Trump himself - I will never celebrate his death. Piss on his grave, almost certainly (whenever I finally manage to get a turn… imma have to wait in line)

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austin_blue  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:24:38pm

re: #285 BeachDem

I’m kinda surprised he didn’t share his thoughts on Urban Meyer, being as he’s such a yoooge sports guy and he was in Columbus. Probably couldn’t figure out how to make it a story about himself.

Talking about Urban Meyer, after what OSU did, is a zero sum game. There is nothing you can safely say.

I mean,

“I’m glad Urban Meyer accepted that his assistant coach had to be let go and he, personally, needed to be suspended without pay for 1/4 of the season because that assistant coach routinely beat the fuck out of his wife.

This was known well before Urban was hired and brought the abuser with him to OSU. Urban’s wife was close with the abused wife, and had to know, and tell, Urban about the abuse. I mean, how does a wife not do that?

But fortunately, Urban did nothing, He had to protect a program that was winning National Championships. Now that appropriate punishment has been delivered, let’s all move on and Go Buckeye Nation!”

rings kind of hollow, doesn’t it?

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:25:09pm

re: #269 wrenchwench

Folks around here ignore their lawns all summer, letting them go brown, then the rainy season starts, and some of them can’t get into the mowing mood fast enough. I passed some 3’ high lawns on my walk to work today.

Here in sofla in season my grass grows easily two inches a week
I haven’t watered in 15 years

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:26:12pm

re: #294 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What’s the statute of limitations for public urination?

Well, I’ll admit it here. I pissed on the Trump International Hotel building in Las Vegas on my birthday back in 2016.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:27:03pm

re: #293 KGxvi

I still think he was the best choice in 2000. Was disappointed by some of his choices since then, but always liked him

I went to this event in old town San Diego. Met the bus. Shook his and Cindy’s hand.

Went into venue. The pre speakers were so hateful, anti dem I left before he talked. His party killed his chance/purpose.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:28:10pm

re: #276 austin_blue

Why not indeed? Many R’s did the same thing in Teddy’s last days when he was dying from a similar GB. The gaspers, of course, wished him a cruel and painful, death, but we should all be better than that. It costs us nothing and is the right thing to do.

Good for you, and thanks from Austin. You are one of the good guys and a boon to both Finns and Swedes.

McCain recognized some of his flaws and failings and has to an extent acknowledge d and taken some responsibility

Not enough and a bit late. Still… adequate

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:28:57pm

re: #295 austin_blue

This was known well before Urban was hired and brought the abuser with him to OSU. Urban’s wife was close with, and had to know and tell, Urban about the abuse. I mean, how does a wife not do that?

You raised the question, and I will answer it. A wife doesn’t do that if she knows it will anger her husband, make him fly off the handle at her. Especially in the conservative Midwest, a woman is trained to please her husband and that if he gets mad at her, it’s her fault and she did something wrong.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:31:05pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:32:37pm

re: #299 dangerman

McCain recognized some of his flaws and failings and has to an extent acknowledge d and taken some responsibility

Not enough and a bit late. Still… adequate

The funeral invite will be his last blast.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:34:23pm

re: #281 Stanley Sea

Neighbor works at geek squad. I just bombarded him, cuz I give his dog love, with my old bose speaker & iPod. It won’t play. I want it working.

He accepted the challenge.

Love it here.

I’ve been living here five years and have no idea what my neighbors do for a living.

I’m not the most social person. 😢

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Interesting Times  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:34:27pm

re: #299 dangerman

McCain recognized some of his flaws and failings and has to an extent acknowledge d and taken some responsibility

Not enough and a bit late. Still… adequate

That’s the kicker for me as well. No, I’m not “celebrating” his death (as I did that of raw-hamburger-genitaled rapebag Roger Ailes), but at the same time, I don’t exactly feel much of a sense of loss, either. Namely because of his warmongering policies, and this:

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:34:50pm

re: #302 Stanley Sea

The funeral invite will be his last blast.

And I hope Cindy (white pantsuit voting Nov 2016) is in charge.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:35:07pm

re: #297 teleskiguy

What’s the statute of limitations for public urination?

Well, I’ll admit it here. I pissed on the Trump International Hotel building in Las Vegas on my birthday back in 2016.

Do you have documentation? Ya got to have documentation.

//

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SteelPH  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:35:07pm

I can’t wait for Trump’s eulogy of “I prefer Senators who don’t get cancer.”
//

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:36:22pm

re: #303 MsJ

I’ve been living here five years and have no idea what my neighbors do for a living.

I’m not the most social person. 😢

I am too social probs. I work from home, I know all.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:36:42pm

re: #290 KGxvi

Former presidents and First Ladies have lifetime Secret Service protection. Children of former presidents have protection for five years or until 18, which comes second. I think same applies for VP, but not sure. Again, though, doesn’t matter, if Trump were to be arrested, they wouldn’t stop which ever agency is making the arrest. And more likely, Trump would get the white collar treatment of being able to turn himself in

Trump will never, ever turn himself in.

Never.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:37:21pm

There’s a cultist in the Austin Statesman who’s incensed that any Libtard be allowed to comment on McCain.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:38:01pm

re: #309 MsJ

Trump will never, ever turn himself in.

Never.

I’m fine with this. If he gets frog-marched out with the world watching, I will be laughing. I know it makes our country a global laughingstock, but at least then we’ll be one step closer to the nightmare being over.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:38:31pm

re: #308 Stanley Sea

I am too social probs. I work from home, I know all.

I work from home, too.

I’m not a good person. I should be more social.

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SteelPH  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:38:54pm

re: #311 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m fine with this. If he gets frog-marched out with the world watching, I will be laughing. I know it makes our country a global laughingstock, but at least then we’ll be one step closer to the nightmare being over.

We can at least hope he gets bankrupted in the process.

314
dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:40:00pm

re: #312 MsJ

I work from home, too.

I’m not a good person. I should be more social.

I am those things too

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:40:09pm

re: #313 SteelPH

We can at least hope he gets bankrupted in the process.

Given the nature of the crimes that his lackeys have been convicted of, I feel that this is a safe assumption.

316
piratedan  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:45:45pm

re: #309 MsJ

well I have to admit, his long track record of being a racist bully has stood him well all the way to the Presidency, I can see why he thinks he can continue to bullshit his way thru… I mean up til’ now, how much pushback has this guy ever received?

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:47:47pm

McCain was The Maverick of the republican party,

All these Russian bots and outraged stupid ass wingnuts forget that McCain was the cutting edge. McCain was the path towards the non-Buckleys taking over the GOP.

McCain was the G rated version of the Tea Party, one that could pretend to be sane and fair, they now laugh and openly scoff at that idea.

Alex Jones is more representative of today’s GOP than John McCain, that is their bed and I hope I live long enough to see their justice. Screw those racist, ignorant, INCEL assholes.

318
plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:47:48pm

Taylor was awesome! Derek Trucks guested on the next song. I want to be at that festival!

319
Dave In Austin  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:48:41pm
320
BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:51:22pm

re: #295 austin_blue

Talking about Urban Meyer, after what OSU did, is a zero sum game. There is nothing you can safely say.

I mean,

“I’m glad Urban Meyer accepted that his assistant coach had to be let go and he, personally, needed to be suspended without pay for 1/4 of the season because that assistant coach routinely beat the fuck out of his wife.

This was known well before Urban was hired and brought the abuser with him to OSU. Urban’s wife was close with the abused wife, and had to know, and tell, Urban about the abuse. I mean, how does a wife not do that?

But fortunately, Urban did nothing, He had to protect a program that was winning National Championships. Now that appropriate punishment has been delivered, let’s all move on and Go Buckeye Nation!”

rings kind of hollow, doesn’t it?

I was just being a smartass.

321
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:52:12pm

re: #252 freetoken

538 still has Hunter the Lesser an overwhelming favorite to win.

Now, I will not be surprised if The Lesser does win reelection. Yet I’ve got to think that the indictments have made a bigger dent than projected.

It will take awhile for the polls to reflect the indictment, if they even poll that race.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:52:50pm

re: #319 Dave In Austin

[Embedded content]

Good for Jim.

I hope John McCain has some final advice, favor for his old friend Lindsey Graham.

All that fake strength of the “moderate republicans” sure has vanished since McCain left town.

I knew Lindsey Graham was a spineless wimp but I thought he would pretend to be principled until his friend died.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:53:41pm

re: #322 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Lindsey Graham has never pretended to be principled.

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dangerman  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:53:42pm

I can’t get the cite right now because I’m in a phone

Half the public currently believes the Trump White House has faced more scandals than previous administrations, with just under one-third saying it’s been about average or that it’s been less scandal-prone than past administrations

.

Now I’m just going off the top of my head here re Obama’s admin
No scandals
No indictments
No plea deals
No Grand juries
No trials
No convictions
Et Al

Pretty sure “none” is the bar to beat

325
Big Beautiful Door  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:56:05pm

re: #271 Patricia Kayden

Dang. So there is pretty much nothing he could do that would make him unpalatable to those voters. Sigh.

Here’s a typical Trumpanzee from Facebook:

At the end of the day, I bet Trump has had a lot of ties to good and bad. He’s sold real estate to the Russian Mob, he’s bought concrete from the Italian mob. He’s had his share of affairs. I bet spies have tried to conspire with him. I bet he’s been tricked.

He’s stubborn. He’s vernacular is basic.

But, at the end of the day, he is cleaner and better than sewage swamp that is going on in Washington. I will continue to support him. I will bet that he will have people that will continue to do that. I am looking forward to the showdown actually.

He is an iconoclast.

Trump reminds me of me. I still love Trump.

It’s so hard to change my mind.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:56:11pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:56:52pm

Iframe

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 5:57:52pm

re: #312 MsJ

I work from home, too.

I’m not a good person. I should be more social.

I work from home, live in a 10-unit condo, and don’t even know all my neighbors. (I get a weekly tutorial from one that I do know on whose car is whose in the parking lot.)

For us:

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teleskiguy  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:00:38pm

People Who Hate People

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BeachDem  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:02:06pm

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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:03:04pm

re: #326 Charles Johnson

Uh….that is a beautiful memory, thanks for the reminder of high school times. HA

I’ve always loved the melody over the music.

Reminiscing (Remastered)

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:04:16pm

re: #323 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Lindsey Graham has never pretended to be principled.

That was printed on his business cards that he handed out to all of the Sunday Morning Show bookers.

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MsJ  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:04:29pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:06:17pm

re: #328 BeachDem

I work from home, live in a 10-unit condo, and don’t even know all my neighbors. (I get a weekly tutorial from one that I do know on whose car is whose in the parking lot.)

For us:

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I chit chat with everyone. I have a notebook where I write their names until I know them. I’m cray.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:21:35pm

Thread

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plansbandc  Aug 24, 2018 • 6:37:00pm

re: #330 BeachDem

This.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Aug 25, 2018 • 1:14:24pm

re: #146 goddamnedfrank

the word for when you want a beer and a nap at the same time

I may be willing to concede the “Superior Race” designation to Germans for having a word in their language that so precisely describes how you feel on a lazy Saturday afternoon.


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