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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:24:37pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:26:50pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:27:02pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

Dana… The point, it just slapped you right in the face as it sailed over your head.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:28:37pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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Yeah because more guns are always the answer. Why don’t you just divorce Chris and marry a gun already you stupid gun junkie.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:30:17pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

I think the answer is banning white guys from owning guns.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:30:47pm

Seriously it’s like people like her have no idea that armed people can be caught off guard. Read the history of the Battle of the Bulge or Sgt York’s story rather than the NRA’s propaganda written by fake macho men and women who like to act tough but would shit themselves if ever in a real situation with a gun man.

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:31:56pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

End gun free zones or have the security in place to keep people safe in them.

The NRA full employment plan: everyone has an armed security guard with them, 24-7.
Three shifts round the clock. And nobody’s safe.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:32:04pm

re: #5 Belafon

I think the answer is banning white guys from owning guns.

Banning Dana from talking about guns would work too because she knows nothing about them and just uses them to push the NRA’s sick agenda of encouraging hoarding.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:32:33pm

re: #7 jaunte

The NRA full employment plan: everyone has an armed security guard with them, 24-7.
Three shifts round the clock. And nobody’s safe.

Bring guns to your dreams!

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can't think of a decent username  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:33:53pm

Guns are so safe, the NRA refuses to let them into their conventions.

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jaunte  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:34:23pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:34:51pm
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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:34:59pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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The NRA Convention was a gun free zone.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:35:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:36:05pm

I’m too slow and this died on the last thread.

re: #196 Joe Bacon 🌹

Every one of those Keyboard KKKomados would be too chicken to walk into a recruitment office to serve their country.

Yup. And for the few who would, when I was a Navy Recruiter during the run-up to the Persian Gulf War, the one or two people who walked into my office saying “I want to kill those [insert racist epithet here]” were folks I turned away.

Okay, now this is funny.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:37:37pm

we don’t need more guns and we sure as hell don’t need a culture that tells people that everyone is a potential murderer. But that’s exactly what Dana, Ollie, Wayne, & the other bedwetters at NRA HQ want. Who’s the real snowflake?

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:39:37pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Banning Dana from talking about guns would work too because she knows nothing about them and just uses them to push the NRA’s sick agenda of encouraging hoarding.

The point of people working for the NRA is to draw fire away from the NRA and toward the spokesmodel as a lightning rod.

The March for Our Lives folk have the correct strategy: Ignore the spokesmodels (except when they spread falsehoods) and go directly after the NRA itself. The NRA does not know how to respond to that line of attack.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:39:48pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

Taking advice on anti-collectivism from someone who accepted SSDI.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:40:51pm

re: #18 Belafon

Taking advice on anti-collectivism from someone who accepted SSDI.

And posting it as someone whose salary and pension and security are paid for by the US taxpayer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:42:03pm

re: #18 Belafon

Taking advice on anti-collectivism from someone who accepted SSDI.

Conservatism isn’t about BEING fiscally responsible, it’s about doing the best job of ACTING like you’re fiscally responsible while cravenly sucking off the government teat as much as possible.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:42:11pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

The point of people working for the NRA is to draw fire away from the NRA and toward the spokesmodel as a lightning rod.

The March for Our Lives folk have the correct strategy: Ignore the spokesmodels (except when they spread falsehoods) and go directly after the NRA itself. The NRA does not know how to respond to that line of attack.

Fuck the entire organization seriously for all their lies. I’m not going to let a bunch of Putin stooges question my manhood because I don’t worship guns as sex objects.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:42:12pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

And posting it as someone whose salary and pension and security are paid for by the US taxpayer.

Rand Paul: Hates “collectivism” (read: societies)

Also Rand Paul: Give me a huge salary and lifetime health benefits while you suck a grapefruit through a garden hose.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:43:01pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Conservatism isn’t about BEING fiscally responsible, it’s about doing the best job of ACTING like you’re fiscally responsible while cravenly sucking off the government teat as much as possible.

Exactly and it’s been this way a loooong time.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:43:32pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

Rand Paul: Hates “collectivism” (read: societies)

Also Rand Paul: Give me a huge salary and lifetime health benefits while you suck a grapefruit through a garden hose.

He’s a fraud just like his father is.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:47:37pm

re: #18 Belafon

Taking advice on anti-collectivism from someone who accepted SSDI.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:47:57pm
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TedStriker  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:50:11pm

re: #11 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:51:28pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon 🌹

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She was a racist fraud who claimed to hate big government but justified the genocide of the Native Americans. She wasn’t even a good writer. She decided that the complete opposite of the USSR was a good ideology and a lot of stupid people like Rand and Pa Paul fell head over heels.

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piratedan  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:53:47pm

re: #12 Big Beautiful Door

I would suggest two possibles….

Billy Joel’s… “Only the Good Die Young”
Nick Lowe’s… ‘Stick It Where the Sun Don’t Shine”

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electrotek  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:55:28pm

Posting from downstairs:

re: #169 Jay C

Is a translation of Wilders’ crap available, or really necessary? I’m guessing it’s the usual Islamophobic garbage - but is this any different or unusual from his typical blithering?

He’s launching another provocative stunt with his Mohammed cartoons in the Netherlands this November.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:56:16pm

re: #29 piratedan

I would suggest two possibles….

Billy Joel’s… “Only the Good Die Young”
Nick Lowe’s… ‘Stick It Where the Sun Don’t Shine”

This one, with “Jack” replaced with “Don”…

Hit the road Jack!

Just sayin’…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:56:39pm

Read Atkss Shrugged! Nah you already told me you’re a selfish douche who thinks the world revolves around you and that caring about anyone outside yourself is weakness. Don’t need a shit book for that. And you know what? I could almost get if many of these same people weren’t also telling me that the Bible needs a bigger place in society. I’m no fan of the Bible broadly speaking but a justification for selfish douchebagery it ain’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 4:58:59pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

Read Atkss Shrugged! Nah you already told me you’re a selfish douche who thinks the world revolves around you and that caring about anyone outside yourself is weakness. Don’t need a shit book for that. And you know what? I could almost get if many of these same people weren’t also telling me that the Bible needs a bigger place in society. I’m no fan of the Bible broadly speaking but a justification for selfish douchebagery it ain’t.

The Radical Right fused Ayn Rand’s Objectivism with Conservative Evangelicals and it has spread like wildfire into the overwhelming majority of churches.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:01:05pm
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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:01:45pm
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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:02:32pm

re: #12 Big Beautiful Door

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:03:02pm

Keep it classy, you rancid, fat piece of shit.

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:03:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:03:55pm

re: #33 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Radical Right fused Ayn Rand’s Objectivism with Conservative Evangelicals and it has spread like wildfire into the overwhelming majority of churches.

Yep! That prosperity gospel crap. My grand uncle is flipping in his grave seeing these hypocrites.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:03:59pm

re: #31 Teukka

This one, with “Jack” replaced with “Don”…

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Just sayin’…

What about this for the procession music?

Ave Satani

*runs for cover*

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makeitstop  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:04:13pm

It’s always said that Trump accuses his enemies of that which he himself is guilty.

I’m thinking that with the McCain tweet, Trump is reacting like he knows people will react when he does us all a favor and shuffles off that XXXXL mortal coil.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:04:19pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:04:20pm

What song do you think should be played at Donald J Trump’s funeral?

Back in the U.S.S.R.

when the man dies any song will make me happy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:05:09pm

re: #37 Ace Rothstein

Keep it classy, you rancid, fat piece of shit.

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Spiteful bastard who has never done a heroic thing in his life is spiteful bastard.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:05:49pm

re: #43 I Would Prefer Not To

I, for one, shall celebrate.

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:06:07pm

re: #26 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

heavy.com

Mike Williams said at the press conference that they are investigating whether Katz legally owned the gun.

Legal/illegal - why on earth does it matter? Those killed are still dead.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:08:09pm

When SHS is the adult in the room, man what a clusterfuck of people these guys are. McCain annoyed me greatly but he was a hero. All those guys he endured with were. But McCain really stands out since he didn’t let his status of an admiral’s son benefit him and I have no shame in saying I wouldn’t have been so brave.

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:08:42pm

re: #40 Teukka

My biggest question about a Trump memorial is will it be a single toilet stall or will they set up a trough so it can serve more people at once?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:09:27pm

I’m reminded of an old joke.

Stalin/Hitler/King Ferdinand/The Czar (the name varies) went to a fortune teller and asked “Can you tell me the day of my death?” The fortune teller said, “You will die on a Jewish holiday.” Stalin/Hitler (etc) asked “Which holiday would that be?” “ANY DAY YOU DIE WILL BECOME A HOLIDAY!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:10:22pm

re: #48 Kragar

My biggest question about a Trump memorial is will it be a single toilet stall or will they set up a trough so it can serve more people at once?

Think bigger. It will be constructed on the site where we house our radioactive waste. No living human will be able to see it for millions of years. That might, perhaps, just be long enough for us all to forget.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:10:23pm

re: #45 Ace Rothstein

I, for one, shall celebrate.

I’ve never despised a President like this one. Bush? Yeah I hated his guts for the Florida shannjgans, pushing homophobia to win re-election, Iraq but I could be civil if I ever found myself in his presence. Trump is an embarrassment not just to the country but the human race as a whole.

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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:11:06pm

re: #36 Kragar

“Happy Days Are Here Again”.

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:11:48pm

My wife won company tickets to the last preseason Cowboys game against Arizona. They did a McCain moment of silence before the natinail anthem:

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:12:08pm

His Gallup approval tommorow is going to drop to the mid-30s I think. I really believe that the past couple of weeks have forced a lot of people to throw in the towel.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:12:29pm

re: #46 fern01

heavy.com

Legal/illegal - why on earth does it matter? Those killed are still dead.

It matters because if he owned the gun illegally, well, all of the gun control in the world won’t matter because criminals will still get guns. If he owned the gun legally, well, it’s a sad tragedy, but he doesn’t represent the majority of gun owners and therefore gun control won’t matter.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:13:15pm

Oh, and for songs at a Trump funeral: AC/DC, “Highway to Hell”.

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:14:32pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

I have never in all my life hated anyone more than I hate the orange piece of shit.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:15:23pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, and for songs at a Trump funeral: AC/DC, “Highway to Hell”.

Na, there must be a poopy diaper kiddy song that parents use for potty training.

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stpaulbear  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:15:24pm

re: #37 Ace Rothstein

Keep it classy, you rancid, fat piece of shit.

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McCain allies said they did not expect an outpouring of praise from Trump after their contentious past.

“It certainly doesn’t bother me or the people I know close to John,” Weaver said. “I don’t think it bothers John one bit. If we heard something today or tomorrow from Trump, we know it’d mean less than a degree from Trump University.”

Ooof.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:15:39pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:15:46pm

I think they should play the song that they play at his rallies: “sympathy for the devil,” cause he’s going to hell.

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:16:15pm

re: #55 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It matters because if he owned the gun illegally, well, all of the gun control in the world won’t matter because criminals will still get guns. If he owned the gun legally, well, it’s a sad tragedy, but he doesn’t represent the majority of gun owners and therefore gun control won’t matter.

I think my question was rhetorical - but I do understand why they do it - it is just the most pointless mind numbing activity. I would also doubt that any state (perhaps excepting NY and California)has a complete set of records related to the ownership of guns.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:16:26pm

re: #60 Teukka

*gags*

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I fucking hate these people and their false flag bullshit.

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:16:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:17:12pm

re: #57 plansbandc

I have never in all my life hated anyone more than I hate the orange piece of shit.

Same, same. He’s such a loathsome human being. I might even hate him more than Bin Laden because well we’d never would elect Osama Bin Laden. We elected this guy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:17:56pm

re: #62 fern01

I think my question was rhetorical - but I do understand why they do it - it is just the most pointless mind numbing activity. I would also doubt that any state (perhaps excepting NY and California)has a complete set of records related to the ownership of guns.

Your question was rhetorical, and my response was parodic snark. I think we’ve both got a lot of frustrations that we need to vent. ;)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:17:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:18:02pm

re: #64 Kragar

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Don Jr, maybe you should go back to being a shitty businessman and stop whining on Twitter all day about how hard your crooked fuckwad of a father is treated for being a crooked fuckwad.

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:19:11pm

There should be a trigger warning for every time that thing pretending to be our leader appears on tv, on social media, anywhere.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:20:33pm

re: #69 plansbandc

There should be a trigger warning for every time that thing pretending to be our leader appears on tv, on social media, anywhere.

I really enjoyed the past two weeks because I was able to momentarily forget somewhat that he was our President. No one gave me a hard time btw for Trump but I made it clear to everyone I talked to that I did not vote for him and that a lot of us see him as the stain he is.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:21:31pm

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:22:21pm

re: #69 plansbandc

There should be a trigger warning for every time that thing pretending to be our leader appears on tv, on social media, anywhere.

How is It going to disrupt McCain’s funeral? You know he won’t stand not being the center of attention, so what’s he going to do?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:24:04pm

re: #71 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Yep. Sorry Bill. I get that you respected McCain but this is definitely the realization of the movement you’ve spent years in. Maybe just maybe if instead of encouraging people like Limbaugh, Trump, and others that you actually called them out, you wouldn’t have to deal with the fact that the French President and Canadian PM have spoken better about an American hero’s passing than the President. And the fact that many Democrats have spoken so well of him should show you how the bullshit that you and the other Reaganites pulled didn’t change our character.

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:24:10pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

We have to careful, wary now. LWC had a hell of a confrontation with some red hats last night that got extremely close to violent. They are feeling the pressure and lashing out. We are seeing it online too. Trick now is manipulate them to aim at one another, a natural tendency that needs a nudge now and again. Edit -oops sorry forgot I brought this up this morning. Under my skin a little.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:25:31pm

re: #74 Unshaken Defiance

We have to careful, wary now. LWC had a hell of a confrontation with some red hats last night that got extremely close to violent. They are feeling the pressure and lashing out. We are seeing it online too. Trick now is manipulate them to aim at one another, a natural tendency that needs a nudge now and again.

Very true. I’m just tired of how every single tragedy is a “false flag” or some crap like that. Alex Jones needs to be knelt in his ugly face repeatedly for making that kind of response acceptable to tragedies.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:25:52pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, and for songs at a Trump funeral: AC/DC, “Highway to Hell”.

This would be more appropriate when Trump does the dirt nap!

Siouxsie and the Banshees Drop Dead/Celebration

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:28:05pm

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Just as well. Any words of praise from Trump would ring false, and can add no honor to McCain, who’s honor is already so well established. It would just be a thin attempt to steal some of McCain’s honor for himself.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:31:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:32:36pm

What a lot of conservatives that do despise Trump need to do is do some introspection and look at why someone like Trump became acceptable to their party and movement. Ask themselves how a party that nominated genuine heroes like Dole and the first Bush and even Reagan/Nixon would embrace such a man. Hint guys, it wasn’t because we liberals forced you do. You had a movement for years that told your base that we liberals hated America, disdained the men and women who serve this country in uniform, that we think the US deserved 9/11. You could have said something when people like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc were making their names in the Clinton years but you said nothing. Maybe just maybe the whole conservative movement you tried to build after Goldwater’s ascension was and is a sham. That doesn’t mean every last conservative idea is wrong or unAmerican mind you but it does mean that conservatism since 1964 requires self-reflection.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:33:07pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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I remember all the right wingers who called Obama angry, thin skinned, and narcissistic. Same people who worship the shit that Trump eats now.

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BigPapa  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:34:52pm

re: #64 Kragar

The sheer volume of evidence against is proof of evidence for. According to Fredo.

That’s some twisted logic.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:35:48pm

The trouble with Trump funeral songs is that I would hate to associate anything good with him, even if the song’s message fit. Maybe they could just play a recording of a diarrhetic rat, over and over at max volume.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:35:50pm

When conservatism stopped being about balanced budgets, localized but effective government, and instead became the ideology of propagandists like Limbaugh and others, that’s when it started becoming the shit show it is today and people like Kristol needs to see that men that they hold to high standards like Reagan, W.F. Buckley, and others had a big part in that transformation.

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LastYearsMan  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:37:31pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I remember all the right wingers who called Obama angry, thin skinned, and narcissistic. Same people who worship the shit that Trump eats now.

It’s pretty clear to me that most of the right’s complaints about Obama weren’t really complaints but promises about how they intended to govern.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:37:51pm

re: #54 Ace Rothstein

His Gallup approval tommorow is going to drop to the mid-30s I think. I really believe that the past couple of weeks have forced a lot of people to throw in the towel.

I would hope so but it seems as if his support goes down periodically and then bounces back up to the low 40s. He should be in the 20s.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:39:17pm

re: #85 Patricia Kayden

I would hope so but it seems as if his support goes down periodically and then bounces back up to the low 40s. He should be in the 20s.

It’s dependent on how many wingnuts get randomly selected for polling. All things being equal, his support or lack thereof has been nearly constant for months.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:39:20pm

I think conservatism for all my problems with it ideologically can be effective. The problem though is this stupid cult of GOVERNMENT IS EVIL!!!!!!!!! from people who also want to us the government to push their version of morality on the rest of us. People who would have the government prohibit same sex marriage but also discourage higher education funding. People who would support high sales taxes that cripple the working classes but oppose any tax increase at all on the wealthy. That’s modern conservatism. And its ugly face has been around long before Trump was a thing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:39:49pm

re: #84 LastYearsMan

It’s pretty clear to me that most of the right’s complaints about Obama weren’t really complaints but promises about how they intended to govern.

Yep I see that every day Trump governs.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:40:26pm

re: #85 Patricia Kayden

I would hope so but it seems as if his support goes down periodically and then bounces back up to the low 40s. He should be in the 20s.

Nah he should be in the single digits or maybe even decimals. That 1/5 people would approve is bad. He’s not doing anything right.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:41:32pm

re: #81 BigPapa

Hey, BigPapa, I’ve been reading about Lane and thinking about you. I hope you managed to stay dry?

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:41:50pm

Loading and unloading this monstrosity is all but guaranteed to be hilarious.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:42:22pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

True. Democrats would NEVER nominate anyone remotely similar to Trump. I’m proud to emphatically say that. We’re not perfect but we have our standards. To be honest, despite his personal philandering, Clinton was a great President and the economy was booming during his years in office. For me, President Obama is the best in my lifetime.

Trump is worse than I even imagined. The GOP has to reflect on how they have gone so low.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:42:56pm

Such a needy child

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:43:07pm

It found its phone.

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:43:53pm

Eleven seconds, Alouette! Eleven seconds!

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:43:53pm

re: #85 Patricia Kayden

He should be in the zeroes.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:45:14pm

re: #92 Patricia Kayden

True. Democrats would NEVER nominate anyone remotely similar to Trump. I’m proud to emphatically say that. We’re not perfect but we have our standards. To be honest, despite his personal philandering, Clinton was a great President and the economy was booming during his years in office. For me, President Obama is the best in my lifetime.

Trump is worse than I even imagined. The GOP has to reflect on how they have gone so low.

I was proud as hell in 2008 how both Obama and Biden never let anyone campaigning on their behalf go after McCain’s service record. I don’t hate Bush like I used to but I still won’t respect that he encouraged the Swift Boating of Kerry. If you’re going to beat us, beat us on ideas rather than attacking the service record of someone oyu dislike politically. I don’t remember 1996 at all but I doubt there was anything but respect to Dole as there should have been, Bob Dole was our last WWII vet to be nominated by a major party and his service record deserved nothing but respect.

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:45:44pm

re: #96 plansbandc

Negatives.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:45:53pm

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Such a needy child

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Yeah Donald, that’s because the Republican Party as it currently stands is full of synchophants. I’m sure Stalin and Hitler had high approval ratings with their parties too.

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dangerman  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:46:39pm

re: #46 fern01

heavy.com

Legal/illegal - why on earth does it matter? Those killed are still dead.

If it’s not his, then h got it from somebody
The bastard who lost control of his weapon should lose his freedom finances and future

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makeitstop  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:48:22pm

re: #98 Ace Rothstein

Negatives.

Imaginary numbers.

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BigPapa  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:48:33pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

The older concept of conservatism is dead. It was murdered via a slow acting intellectual poison of a populist concoction. No matter how less horrible or wonderful it was before, it’s a rabid zombie of what it once was.

At this point concepts such as ‘limited government’ is a euphemism of rabid anti-government hate. “Low taxation” is based on a foundation of ‘taxation is theft.’ Liberty is a foundational concept as long as it’s for white people.

I thought I was conservative nee libertarian for a time. Then I realized I was a crass ego-driven asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:49:04pm

The whole your favorite President thing is creepy as hell to me. It just reminds me of “Dear Leader” and how other dictators like to be called with titles like “Father” or some crap like that. Trump thinks we’re here to serve him. His predecessors including ones I vehemently disagree with got that it was the opposite. Public service isn’t about serving the country for Trump, it’s about using the public to serve Trump.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:49:10pm

re: #101 makeitstop

Imaginary numbers.

Donald’s popularity is square root of -1%

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:49:19pm

Gotta go walk waggy. Back in a few…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:49:41pm

Texas Man Allegedly Shot Women Drivers Because He Doesn’t Believe Women Should Drive
This freakazoid shot a woman outside a car wash on July 10, then bailed out and did it again within 48 hours.
His bond has been increased to $400,000.

Police say Dagostino has confessed to shooting as many as five women drivers in the area, and that he specifically targets women because he doesn’t believe they should be permitted to drive. According to a local ABC News affilliate, court documents say Dagostino wrote a number of Facebook posts in which he reportedly “rants and rambles on about female motorists and how incompetent they are and that their sole purpose is to give birth to male children.”

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:50:10pm

Have you guys read this? It’s hilarious!! No one deserves this more than Milo. salon.com

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:50:16pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Texas Man Allegedly Shot Women Drivers Because He Doesn’t Believe Women Should Drive
This freakazoid shot a woman outside a car wash on July 10, then bailed out and did it again within 48 hours.
His bond has been increased to $400,000.

But remember ladies and gays, be afraid of the Muslims. //

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Ace Rothstein  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:50:32pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

He shouldn’t be allowed bond, period.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:50:50pm

re: #107 Patricia Kayden

Have you guys read this? It’s hilarious!! No one deserves this more than Milo. salon.com

Yep, we were talking about it earlier and getting a good laugh about how he’s begging. Fucking sad piece of crap.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:51:27pm

I’ve brought this up a couple times before recently, so apologize for the redundancy, but as I listen to the Crimetown podcast I really am struck by similarities with Trump, his world view (if you can call it that) and his fans. Today I listened to the episode about Raymond Patriarcha’s death. They had a guy on talking about what a sweet man he was, a guy who took care of everybody on Federal Hill in Providence; he talked about how all those poor people who got a turkey at Thanksgiving and oil in winter when they ran out came out in the thousands at his funeral.

That is exactly how organized crime works.

I was in Japan not far away when the Kobe earthquake hit in 1995. The fucking PM Mori was on a golf course. The government couldn’t react to help immediately on the streets. Who showed up right away with blankets and soup? The yakuza.

When you either take away the ability of government to respond or corrupt government in how it responds, you create fertile ground for groups like the mob to take advantage. They “come to the rescue”; they provide the stability the cops no longer provide; people see that Thanksgiving turkey and think, “hey, at least the psychopaths were thinking about me!”

It’s not just Trump, though he is trying to make it happen if but through instinct. It’s the whole GOP. Keep up the grift that shifts wealth to the 1%, claim we can’t afford to pay for entitlements, then watch the neo-mob move in. Pay-day lenders, insurance scammers, reverse mortgagers, etc.

ETA: I forgot about the podcast parallel with supporters. With Patriarcha, it wasn’t “he could shoot someone on 5th ave.” He literally ordered multiple murders and the mass of his community didn’t give a shit. That’s where we are with Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:52:33pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

What a lot of conservatives that do despise Trump need to do is do some introspection and look at why someone like Trump became acceptable to their party and movement. Ask themselves how a party that nominated genuine heroes like Dole and the first Bush and even Reagan/Nixon would embrace such a man. Hint guys, it wasn’t because we liberals forced you do. You had a movement for years that told your base that we liberals hated America, disdained the men and women who serve this country in uniform, that we think the US deserved 9/11. You could have said something when people like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, etc were making their names in the Clinton years but you said nothing. Maybe just maybe the whole conservative movement you tried to build after Goldwater’s ascension was and is a sham. That doesn’t mean every last conservative idea is wrong or unAmerican mind you but it does mean that conservatism since 1964 requires self-reflection.

On that:

Sunday Sermon: Conservatives Keep Up With Two Big American Traditions - Ignorance and Lies (Goes to Freethought Blogs, more at the link about “what is conservatism”):

What is a “conservative”, anyway? If you search around, you’ll find a variety of definitions, most of which seem to be incoherent ideological laundry lists.

The problem with having an ideological laundry list as a political agenda is that you don’t necessarily have some kind of unifying belief system that motivates that laundry list. Let me give you an example, from one definition of “conservative”: [google]

Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion.

That’s a huge dodge because it implies there is an underlying ideology but there isn’t: the ideology is whatever the past’s ideology was. So if you’ve got a nazi conservative talking to a conservative Jew, you have two conservatives, right? The implication of fitting them both under the same umbrella-term is that they agree - but I suspect that if you put those two conservatives in the the same room together for a few hours, they would discover deeper disagreements than the “conservative” label might lead one to expect.

We encounter them regularly, though: “conservatives.” My general response when I encounter a conservative is to start immediately interrogating them about the parameters of their conservatism, while slowly segueing toward Emo Philips’ delivery in his famous “golden gate bridge” joke.

(more)

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dangerman  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:52:56pm

re: #69 plansbandc

There should be a trigger warning for every time that thing pretending to be our leader appears on tv, on social media, anywhere.

I use the maka app. Make Americans cats again. It turns pix of trump into pix of cats. Works most of the time. Thiugh I still get surprised and sometimes!es gag then.

H/t anymouse for maka

It’s supposed to do othet people too. It handles Chuck Johnson very badly. I’d like to never see his mug ever on this site.

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:55:19pm
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BigPapa  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:56:51pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

Having a society that truly takes care of all members is much harder than having one that takes care of a few.

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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:57:00pm

re: #114 teleskiguy

Comparing Trump to Capone is a huge insult to Capone.

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dangerman  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:57:13pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

When conservatism stopped being about balanced budgets, localized but effective government, and instead became the ideology of propagandists like Limbaugh and others, that’s when it started becoming the shit show it is today and people like Kristol needs to see that men that they hold to high standards like Reagan, W.F. Buckley, and others had a big part in that transformation.

Put another way, when it stopped being about governing as one of two parties in a democracy and instead became a constant quest for power and seats at any cost

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:57:35pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

Comparing Trump to Capone is a huge insult to Capone.

You’re right. Al actually gave a shit about his son.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:58:21pm

re: #117 dangerman

Put another way, when it stopped being about governing as one of two parties in a democracy and instead became a constant quest for power and seats at any cost

I’d say that began in the Nixon years.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:58:57pm

re: #102 BigPapa

The older concept of conservatism is dead. It was murdered via a slow acting intellectual poison of a populist concoction. No matter how less horrible or wonderful it was before, it’s a rabid zombie of what it once was.

I suppose that depends on what you define as “conservatism” (they sure can’t).

Self-described conservatives fought on behalf of the Crown in the Revolution. They supported slavery. They fought on the side of the Confederacy in the Civil War. They were the robber barons of the Gilded Age. They supported Jim Crow after Reconstruction ended. They opposed women’s right to vote. They were the temperance movement which banned alcohol. They opposed that “jazz weed” and made it illegal on racist grounds. They oppose women’s reproductive rights (and for that matter, everyone’s reproductive rights) now. They support tearing down the wall of separation between Church and State. They have always opposed legal immigration.

What part of conservatism that is suddenly new that I missed?

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:59:41pm

re: #116 Skip Intro

I was comparing Capone to the Yakuza.

Whatever.

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stpaulbear  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:59:45pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

I think conservatism for all my problems with it ideologically can be effective. The problem though is this stupid cult of GOVERNMENT IS EVIL!!!!!!!!! from people who also want to us the government to push their version of morality on the rest of us. People who would have the government prohibit same sex marriage but also discourage higher education funding. People who would support high sales taxes that cripple the working classes but oppose any tax increase at all on the wealthy. That’s modern conservatism. And its ugly face has been around long before Trump was a thing.

You have to go back to Eisenhower/Nixon to find conservatism that isn’t just a scheme to funnel more money to the rich at the expense of the poor and the national debt. Conservatism hasn’t been effective in real life on a national scale for ages. The dream of an effective conservatism is dead.

I’ve never been a conservative so I’ve never had to justify it in my own mind, but that’s just my own old hippie viewpoint.

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dangerman  Aug 26, 2018 • 5:59:58pm

re: #93 The Vicious Babushka

Such a needy child

[Embedded content]

You have never not been underwater
You are underwater now

52% is a lie

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:00:49pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:00:54pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

I suppose that depends on what you define as “conservatism” (they sure can’t).

Self-described conservatives fought on behalf of the Crown in the Revolution. They supported slavery. They fought on the side of the Confederacy in the Civil War. They were the robber barons of the Gilded Age. They supported Jim Crow after Reconstruction ended. They opposed women’s right to vote. They were the temperance movement which banned alcohol. They opposed that “jazz weed” and made it illegal on racist grounds. They oppose women’s reproductive rights (and for that matter, everyone’s reproductive rights) now. They support tearing down the wall of separation between Church and State. They have always opposed legal immigration.

What part of conservatism that is suddenly new that I missed?

I agree with this assessment. A lot of people who are labeled conservative like Burke really weren’t conservative for their times.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:01:35pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

I was comparing Capone to the Yakuza.

Whatever.

It’s a good comparison.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:01:46pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

I’ve brought this up a couple times before recently, so apologize for the redundancy, but as I listen to the Crimetown podcast I really am struck by similarities with Trump, his world view (if you can call it that) and his fans. Today I listened to the episode about Raymond Patriarcha’s death. They had a guy on talking about what a sweet man he was, a guy who took care of everybody on Federal Hill in Providence; he talked about how all those poor people who got a turkey at Thanksgiving and oil in winter when they ran out came out in the thousands at his funeral.

That is exactly how organized crime works.

I was in Japan not far away when the Kobe earthquake hit in 1995. The fucking PM Mori was on a golf course. The government couldn’t react to help immediately on the streets. Who showed up right away with blankets and soup? The yakuza.

When you either take away the ability of government to respond or corrupt government in how it responds, you create fertile ground for groups like the mob to take advantage. They “come to the rescue”; they provide the stability the cops no longer provide; people see that Thanksgiving turkey and think, “hey, at least the psychopaths were thinking about me!”

It’s not just Trump, though he is trying to make it happen if but through instinct. It’s the whole GOP. Keep up the grift that shifts wealth to the 1%, claim we can’t afford to pay for entitlements, then watch the neo-mob move in. Pay-day lenders, insurance scammers, reverse mortgagers, etc.

ETA: I forgot about the podcast parallel with supporters. With Patriarcha, it wasn’t “he could shoot someone on 5th ave.” He literally ordered multiple murders and the mass of his community didn’t give a shit. That’s where we are with Trump.

The Ballad of Pretty Boy Floyd (some kinda Robbin’ Hood guy)

Woody Guthrie - Pretty Boy Floyd

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:01:51pm

re: #122 stpaulbear

You have to go back to Eisenhower/Nixon to find conservatism that isn’t just a scheme to funnel more money to the rich at the expense of the poor and the national debt. Conservatism hasn’t been effective in real life on a national scale for ages. The dream of an effective conservatism is dead.

I’ve never been a conservative so I’ve never had to justify it in my own mind, but that’s just my own old hippie viewpoint.

I’m like you. Lifelong liberal. Have never seen how conservatism justifies itself.

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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:02:27pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

I was comparing Capone to the Yakuza.

Whatever.

And I was referring to this.

“NRA Spokeswoman Dana Loesch Defends Trump By Comparing Him To Al Capone”

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:03:28pm

My point was that the conservative view that helping the underprivileged leads to dependence so it should be cut off also leads to the vacuum that allows organized crime to come in and thrive.

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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:04:38pm

re: #126 Barefoot Grin

It’s a good comparison.

Where does he actually do that?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:05:33pm

To me, American history is defined by progress versus keeping the status quo or worse returning to older times. Subsequently, I feel as AM has illustrated better than I can at the moment that American history is riddled with examples of liberals being the champions of the progress that has defined our country for the better and conservatives opposing said progress. Sure, conservatives talk NOW about how they venerate MLK and the Civil Rights Movement or abolitionism etc but at the time, they fought it and as a liberal, I’m proud to be a descendant of the movement that fought to abolish slavery, for labor rights, for civil rights for ALL, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:06:24pm

I’ve been occasionally checking to see if a Presidential Proclamation comes up on the White House Website on the death of Senator John McCain, but in light of Natasha Bertrand’s reporting I guess that is a futile effort.

I know my own state governor won’t do anything Trump doesn’t do first, so Nebraska isn’t going to see a proclamation either.

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BigPapa  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:08:25pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

I suppose that depends on what you define as “conservatism” (they sure can’t).

There is nothing new except for the marketing.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:08:51pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

I was proud as hell in 2008 how both Obama and Biden never let anyone campaigning on their behalf go after McCain’s service record. I don’t hate Bush like I used to but I still won’t respect that he encouraged the Swift Boating of Kerry. If you’re going to beat us, beat us on ideas rather than attacking the service record of someone oyu dislike politically. I don’t remember 1996 at all but I doubt there was anything but respect to Dole as there should have been, Bob Dole was our last WWII vet to be nominated by a major party and his service record deserved nothing but respect.

Dole was also a hero of science. Two years after World War II ended, he was hospitalized for a persistent infection of the very severe arm wound he had suffered in Italy. A new antibiotic, streptomycin, had just started human trials. The first subject died. The second one survived but was permanently blinded. Young Dole volunteered to be the third subject. He made a full recovery.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:09:23pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Yep, we were talking about it earlier and getting a good laugh about how he’s begging. Fucking sad piece of crap.

Lol!! Can’t wait until Alex Jones collapses the way that Milo has.

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:09:31pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

I was proud as hell in 2008 how both Obama and Biden never let anyone campaigning on their behalf go after McCain’s service record. I don’t hate Bush like I used to but I still won’t respect that he encouraged the Swift Boating of Kerry. If you’re going to beat us, beat us on ideas rather than attacking the service record of someone oyu dislike politically. I don’t remember 1996 at all but I doubt there was anything but respect to Dole as there should have been, Bob Dole was our last WWII vet to be nominated by a major party and his service record deserved nothing but respect.

They cannot beat the democrats on ideas - same as they cannot win states without the gerrymander. Their belief in the divine right to rule of the GOP is never ending. They use all and any means - legal, illegal or just plain disgusting - to win.

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:11:04pm

re: #106 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Texas Man Allegedly Shot Women Drivers Because He Doesn’t Believe Women Should Drive
This freakazoid shot a woman outside a car wash on July 10, then bailed out and did it again within 48 hours.
His bond has been increased to $400,000.

No doubt he legally owned the gun.

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makeitstop  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:11:48pm

re: #130 Barefoot Grin

My point was that the conservative view that helping the underprivileged leads to dependence so it should be cut off also leads to the vacuum that allows organized crime to come in and thrive.

The common assumption is that in a conservative government, ‘charities’ and churches are supposed to pick up the slack - to hear them tell it, anyway. But the churches and Trump-recognized ‘charities’ aren’t giving anything away or helping, either. Everybody’s raking in money, but none of them want to turn it loose after they get it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:12:02pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dole was also a hero of science. Two years after World War II ended, he was hospitalized for a persistent infection of the very severe arm wound he had suffered in Italy. A new antibiotic, streptomycin, had just started human trials. The first subject died. The second one survived but was permanently blinded. Young Dole volunteered to be the third subject. He made a full recovery.

Didn’t know that. Wow. And Dole recently celebrated his 95th birthday I believe. It’s hard for me to believe that when I first started paying attention to politics that there were still WWII vets like Dole in office and now they’re all gone. I really enjoy former Congressman John Dingell’s Twitter feed. He’s a sharp old guy.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:12:17pm

The CNN biography of McCain is on.

It is comprehensive.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:14:19pm

I’ve been seeing some conservatives/libertarians I know use Venezuela as somehow proof of the fallacy of Democratic socialism and I’ll admit ti here, I don’t know if Nordic style programs would necessarily work in the US due to our size compared to those nations. However, I never see them acknowledge that capitalism can be just as unDemocratic given conditions. Capitalism or Socialism doesn’t make you free, it’s what your government actually does for its people that makes you free and that can be a mixed economy or that can be a more socialist economy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:15:01pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

The CNN biography of McCain is on.

It is comprehensive.

I was surprised to see his mother is still with us. She’s slightly older than my Dad’s parents would be. Dad’s Dad has been gone nearly 40 years and Nana nearly 15.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:15:38pm

re: #136 Patricia Kayden

Lol!! Can’t wait until Alex Jones collapses the way that Milo has.

Me too. Oh man I would love to see Alex Jones just become another crazy kook on the street.

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:15:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:16:21pm

re: #138 fern01

No doubt he legally owned the gun.

Even Saudi Arabia is allowing women to drive now.

Lemme guess, he’s a good “Bible believing Christian.”

They oppose sharia law (or whatever they think that is) not because they are big supporters of rights, they view it as competition.

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BigPapa  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:17:58pm

re: #139 makeitstop

The common assumption is that in a conservative government, ‘charities’ and churches are supposed to pick up the slack - to hear them tell it, anyway. But the churches and Trump-recognized ‘charities’ aren’t giving anything away or helping, either. Everybody’s raking in money, but none of them want to turn it loose after they get it.

‘Charity’ = indoctrination. Libertarian 101: religion is for the plebes.

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dangerman  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:18:46pm

On that spreadsheet ….

Brian Beutler

@brianbeutler
Another way to put this: Republicans compile list of oversight obligations they have abdicated for nearly two years

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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:20:52pm

re: #145 Kragar

Any idea where the 52% comes from? Rasmussen? Out of his ass?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:21:18pm

re: #147 BigPapa

‘Charity’ = indoctrination. Libertarian 101: religion is for the plebes.

Whenever I read conservatives/libertarians suggest charity, I am reminded of the constant stories I read about how corrupt many charities are. I concede that government is far from perfect but you can get much more transparency from government in a way you never will from the private sector or non-profits simply because we can replace the people who run the government. Nothing internal is stopping a crooked board from stealing funds meant to help people.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:22:11pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

Where does he actually do that?

Literally. I lived about 60 miles from the most devastated part of Kobe. The government didn’t really show up for three days. The yakuza were on the scene right away setting up “ramen kitchens.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:22:31pm

re: #149 Skip Intro

Any idea where the 52% comes from? Rasmussen? Out of his ass?

Gotta be outta his ass. I don’t even think Rass has had him above 50% ever. Bragging about a 52% approval rating even if true sounds pretty sad. It’s like bragging about a C on a test.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:24:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:24:12pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Gotta be outta his ass. I don’t even think Rass has had him above 50% ever. Bragging about a 52% approval rating even if true sounds pretty sad. It’s like bragging about a C on a test.

Hey, I have one C from high school I was very proud of. I worked my butt off for that C (during my exchange student days, a C in second-year high school Portuguese in Brazil - the school said I was their first American student to ever pass the course).

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:25:16pm

My wife wants to use the computer for her stuff, so I’ll take a break you lucky devils.

(We still only have four plug sockets.)

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freetoken  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:25:51pm

Reuters warm-body pool has Trump a tiny surge last week, to 42% approval:

polling.reuters.com

Maybe someone mistook the “4” for a “5”.

Anyway, that Reuters number is before the Manafort/Cohen guilty statements. We’ll see if those made any difference but that will be in 7 days.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:26:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:26:50pm

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, I have one C from high school I was very proud of. I worked my butt off for that C (during my exchange student days, a C in second-year high school Portuguese in Brazil - the school said I was their first American student to ever pass the course).

You do know what I meant, right? Kudos though. Portuguese isn’t easy.

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gocart mozart  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:27:30pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:28:01pm

re: #156 freetoken

Reuters warm-body pool has Trump a tiny surge last week, to 42% approval:

polling.reuters.com

Maybe someone mistook the “4” for a “5”.

Anyway, that Reuters number is before the Manafort/Cohen guilty statements. We’ll see if those made any difference but that will be in 7 days.

That’s just fucking depressing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:28:04pm

He does have a polling floor due to his cult. But he’s going to find out in November that his cult aren’t the only people who vote and those of us not in his cult are going to vote more than his cult is.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:29:00pm

re: #159 gocart mozart

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Know who didn’t post something about McCain, Putin but wouldn’t it be great if we could be friends with Russia, right Donnie?!

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:29:06pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Gotta be outta his ass. I don’t even think Rass has had him above 50% ever. Bragging about a 52% approval rating even if true sounds pretty sad. It’s like bragging about a C on a test.

On RCP - Rass has him at 46% that’s the highest
Quin have him at 41% average 43.6% - so yes the numbers are outta his ass.

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stpaulbear  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:29:51pm

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Gotta be outta his ass. I don’t even think Rass has had him above 50% ever. Bragging about a 52% approval rating even if true sounds pretty sad. It’s like bragging about a C on a test.

50% + 1 vote = WINNER!!

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:30:28pm

re: #163 fern01

Just another Trump lie or as Kellyanne Conway calls it: “an alternative fact”.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:31:30pm

Anyone else watching CNN John McCain doc?

Vietnam then, McCain recently commenting.

Great.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:32:41pm

re: #163 fern01

On RCP - Rass has him at 46% that’s the highest
Quin have him at 41% average 43.6% - so yes the numbers are outta his ass.

I still think we can potentially landslide the bastard in 2020 if he’s not removed by then already.

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:34:08pm

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Just another Trump lie or as Kellyanne Conway calls it: “an alternative fact”.

Really sad thing is that 27% believe it and when he loses an election they will be screaming about election fraud.

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makeitstop  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:35:19pm
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freetoken  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:35:49pm

re: #160 Skip Intro

That’s just fucking depressing.

Let me take this moment to remind us that half of Americans believe the humans were magically created just a few thousand years ago.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:36:26pm

DUMBASS BOT ALERT==>

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:38:31pm
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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:39:40pm

I am remembering all the times the GOP and the media screamed at President Obama because - gun deaths, natural disasters. He had to visit everyone, everywhere.

Have we heard 1 word from trump or his administration about
- the latest shooting in Florida
- the hawaii hurricane

Of course not. Is the media commenting - of course not.

McCain’s death came at a good time for trump - took the heat of him for the Mueller issues and killed the press asking questions on other issues. This is no president - this is a leader in the last days of the Roman Empire.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:40:41pm

For some reason this image just got me in the throat.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:44:21pm
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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:44:22pm

re: #171 The Vicious Babushka

I think you don’t understand the principal principle of the founders we are a republic .and government is responsible for infustructior infrastructure. No the production of thing in the economy .free markets. Only capatalism capitalism works .true free markets

And that doesn’t cover the grammar or sentence structure. trump really does capture the uneducated. I don’t think that’s a russian bot - they are better at written english.

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freetoken  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:46:33pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:50:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:51:57pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:52:28pm

re: #170 freetoken

Well that makes me feel better not at all.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:53:52pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:57:47pm

Report this Nazi

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gocart mozart  Aug 26, 2018 • 6:59:20pm
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William Lewis  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:00:14pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

For some reason this image just got me in the throat.

[Embedded content]

Some folks don’t need parades when people will volunteer to honor them.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:00:28pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

I just started watching it; up to episode four. It’s awesome and the Scottish woman playing June is brilliant.

Edit— brain fart on name.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:10:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:11:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:11:57pm

re: #186 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I had a feeling that Cindy was going to be appointed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:13:35pm
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stpaulbear  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:14:00pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had a feeling that Cindy was going to be appointed.

I wonder how she feels about protecting Roe v. Wade?

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:14:16pm

re: #149 Skip Intro

Even Rasmussen has him at -7, (46/53)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:14:18pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:14:31pm

re: #175 Ace-o-aces

Actually, I’m pretty sure she does. After all, THE OLD WEST HAD GUNS AND BARS AND THEY DIDN’T DO CRIMES ‘CUZ THEY’D JUST GET DRAGGED OUT BACK AND SHOT!

I’ll leave it as an exercise to the reader to correct the (at least five) mistakes that I intentionally made in that interpretation.

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plansbandc  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:14:47pm

re: #113 dangerman

I use that! I also use the app that makes his tweets look like an eight year old’s scrawl. I need something that blocks his voice from ever hitting my eardrums. My dude still insists on watching GMA and the utter bullshit that is Meet The Press. So I accidentally hear his voice. GRRR.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:15:30pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

For some reason this image just got me in the throat.

[Embedded content]

Now that is America at its best.

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retired cynic  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:15:38pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

That thread on Rand Paul’s tweet is both funny and deeply satisfying. About 95% of the responses were calling Ayn Rand and Rand Paul off for exactly what they are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:15:45pm

re: #190 stpaulbear

I wonder how she feels about protecting Roe v. Wade?

she is already on record as supporting Roe v Wade, it’s one of things she disagreed with John.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:16:37pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

I saw a preview for it and I had absolutely no clue what the fuck was going on so yeah, I passed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:16:57pm

*vomits*

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gwangung  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:17:19pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

she is already on record as supporting Roe v Wade, it’s one of things she disagreed with John.

Yeah, but that means nothing until the votes are in

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:18:13pm

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

*vomits*

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“The freedom to choose”

Uh-huh.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:18:30pm

*vomits again*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:18:58pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:22:22pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

*vomits again*

[Embedded content]

Tell that shit to disabled or chronically ill people whose families want nothing to do with them. Tell that to communities with decaying infrastructure that can’t afford to fix it. Tell that to the people of Flint Michigan whose water is slowly killing them. Tell that to the Puerto Ricans who are still struggling to keep their lights on.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:23:32pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

That’s a great theory, but people are assholes. I’ve come to realize that we need government to keep people from being assholes for long enough that we can collectively do some good.

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:23:35pm

Mr. “Palin-didn’t-have-that-baby” tory fuckwad is *all in* with the Melania body double conspiracy theory. Of course.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:26:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:26:47pm

OMG, sometimes I grow so tired of people on watch forums asking whether radium dialed watches are “safe”. I keep pointing out that there has been no wave of watchmakers dying of bone cancer, that our fathers and grandfathers managed to survive with their radium dialed watches on their arms. I tell them “Don’t lick the dial. Don’t snort the dust”. Still they ask “Is it safe to keep it in my bedroom?”

You know, if you’re gonna worry about it, DON’T BUY A FUCKING RADIUM DIALED WATCH!!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:27:25pm

re: #206 teleskiguy

There are differences in lighting, shadows, posture and weather conditions between those two photos. It could very easily be the same person in both.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:27:59pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

JFC. I owned a radium-faced watch for years as a teenager. Manufacturing them may have been a bit dodgy (depending on the safety practices, or lack thereof, of the specific manufacturer), but owning and wearing one has never been a problem.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:28:02pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

I had a feeling that Cindy was going to be appointed.

I wonder how long she would hold the seat.
Arizona requires that the Governor appoint a member of the same party, but also require the election of a replacement at the next general election period (no specials) to finish out the vacating member’s term. But, as AZ holds their primaries next week(?) I’m not sure if they could run a separate primary process in time for Nov.

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TedStriker  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:32:18pm

re: #207 Backwoods_Sleuth

Global leaders on passing of Senator McCain: “hero,” “statesman,” “man of great courage and conviction.” pic.twitter.com

— Josh Campbell (@joshscampbell) August 27, 2018

Except the one leader whose words should matter more than any other: his own fucking President.

Goddamnit, I hate Trump.

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Teukka  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:39:25pm

Motivational Speech o’ the Evening:

[Best Version] The Great Dictator Speech - Charlie Chaplin + Time - Hans Zimmer (INCEPTION Theme)

I’m sorry but I don’t want to be an Emperor, that’s not my business. I don’t want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone if possible, Jew, gentile, black man, white. We all want to help one another, human beings are like that. We want to live by each other’s happiness, not by each other’s misery. We don’t want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone and the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. Greed has poisoned men’s souls, has barricaded the world with hate; has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed but we have shut ourselves in: machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge has made us cynical, our cleverness hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little: More than machinery we need humanity; More than cleverness we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in men, cries out for universal brotherhood for the unity of us all. Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me I say “Do not despair”. The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress: the hate of men will pass and dictators die and the power they took from the people, will return to the people and so long as men die liberty will never perish … Soldiers: don’t give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you, enslave you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think or what to feel, who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder. Don’t give yourselves to these unnatural men, machine men, with machine minds and machine hearts. You are not machines. You are not cattle. You are men. You have the love of humanity in your hearts. You don’t hate, only the unloved hate. The unloved and the unnatural. Soldiers: don’t fight for slavery, fight for liberty. In the seventeenth chapter of Saint Luke it is written: - “The kingdom of God is within man” Not one man, nor a group of men, but in all men; in you. You the people have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness. You the people have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy let us use that power. Let us all unite! Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power, but they lie. They do not fulfill that promise, they never will. Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people. Now let us fight to fulfill that promise. Let us fight to free the world, to do away with national barriers, to do away with greed, with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men’s happiness. Soldiers! In the name of democracy: Let us all unite!

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teleskiguy  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:41:38pm

Damn. Learn something new everyday. You know who held John McCain’s seat before McCain showed up? Barry Goldwater.

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whitebeach  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:47:14pm

re: #43 I Would Prefer Not To

What song do you think should be played at Donald J Trump’s funeral?

Back in the U.S.S.R.

when the man dies any song will make me happy.

I haven’t read all the posts after yours, but my choice would be no song at all, because I don’t believe the man ever had a note of music in his soul in all his life, unless it was “mi, mi, mi.” As for the rest of us, on his going I think “Hallelujah Chorus” or “Ode to Joy” would do the trick.

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Jay C  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:47:40pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder how long she would hold the seat.
Arizona requires that the Governor appoint a member of the same party, but also require the election of a replacement at the next general election period (no specials) to finish out the vacating member’s term. But, as AZ holds their primaries next week(?) I’m not sure if they could run a separate primary process in time for Nov.

I believe Arizona law provides a minimum period before a “general election” to fill a Senate vacancy. John McCain survived in the seat long enough to meet the provision that his appointed successor (whether Cindy McCain or someone else) will serve until the next general election after that, (2020), so two years at least.

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retired cynic  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:50:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:52:21pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 7:59:02pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

*vomits again*

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Her statement is so vacuously stupid that no reply is necessary. Someone should ask her if she supports anti-abortion laws though. Conservatives are fine with government as long as it’s controlling other people’s lives.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:02:23pm

re: #213 Teukka

It’s not surprising that the man who gave that speech was blackballed and deported by the Unamerican Activities Committee.

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freetoken  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:02:53pm

re: #199 The Vicious Babushka

This is the same phenomenon as “Jesus”.

That name is applied to whatever ideal super-human the believer wishes. So to some “Jesus” hates communists, while to others “Jesus” hates capitalism.

In the same way, in today’s America the word “conservatism” has taken this role as a totem-word. It simply means whatever the speaker wishes, dependent upon what they want. These same people do so with the word “liberal”.

Which is why I like to throw out the irony that in Australia the “Liberal” party is considered the major “conservative” party.

Fundamentally what is happening is that to us humans words can be magical. Words are magic. C.f. Harry Potter and the training of the children at Hogwarts to learn the exact phrasing of magical words.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:05:11pm

re: #173 fern01

I understand your point but Trump would just make the tragedy worse though. I’m still fuming about him throwing paper towels to Puerto Ricans after Hurricane Maria. Moron.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:06:50pm

The tax cuts probably came a little too early for Trump’s longterm good, but the hyper-greed class was demanding action and the GOP Congress responded. The negative fallout from those cuts; drastically reduced capital investment, inflation, increased speculation, negative wage growth, etc. will arrive in time to destroy Trump in 2020, and the GOP with him.

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dangerman  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:11:30pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

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IMPORTANT: President Trump currently presides over the last little bit of the longest running bull market in modern financial history, and the longest streak of job growth ever

There is no medal for inheriting

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William Lewis  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:15:17pm

re: #223 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The tax cuts probably came a little too early for Trump’s longterm good, but the hyper-greed class was demanding action and the GOP Congress responded. The negative fallout from those cuts; drastically reduced capital investment, inflation, increased speculation, negative wage growth, etc. will arrive in time to destroy Trump in 2020, and the GOP with him.

Even “better” for the GOP will be the continuing damage done by the economic illiteracy of the tariffs. The price hikes in steel and aluminum & etc haven’t really had a chance to filter down to the consumer yet and when the do… wham! People gonna start saving beer cans again.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:23:04pm

re: #225 William Lewis

Even “better” for the GOP will be the continuing damage done by the economic illiteracy of the tariffs. The price hikes in steel and aluminum & etc haven’t really had a chance to filter down to the consumer yet and when the do… wham! People gonna start saving beer cans again.

Good point. I was focused on the voodoo cuts and forgot all about the tariffs. Combined with record deficits they will push inflation through the roof.
This raises a thorny question though: Should we still care about the homeless when huge masses of MAGAts find themselves destitute and living on the streets? Would it not be too easy to remember the hate and contempt they spewed on the poor in earlier times?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:24:01pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:34:42pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

It found its phone.

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He must have look at his disapproval rating and got confused; even Rasmussen has Trump underwater.

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BeachDem  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:42:37pm

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Just another Trump lie or as Kellyanne Conway calls it: “an alternative fact”.

Give the guy a break—he just had the numbers backward…or he doesn’t know the difference between approval and disapproval…or yam jr. hadn’t had a chance to photoshop the numbers…

In a separate NBC/WSJ survey, conducted Aug. 22 through Aug. 25, Trump’s approval rating was 44 percent approve and 52 percent disapprove.

nbcnews.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:44:59pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

OMG, sometimes I grow so tired of people on watch forums asking whether radium dialed watches are “safe”. I keep pointing out that there has been no wave of watchmakers dying of bone cancer, that our fathers and grandfathers managed to survive with their radium dialed watches on their arms. I tell them “Don’t lick the dial. Don’t snort the dust”. Still they ask “Is it safe to keep it in my bedroom?”

You know, if you’re gonna worry about it, DON’T BUY A FUCKING RADIUM DIALED WATCH!!!!!

I haven’t worn a watch in years. Not because of radium, but just because with my phone, I don’t really need one.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:48:55pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I wonder how long she would hold the seat.
Arizona requires that the Governor appoint a member of the same party, but also require the election of a replacement at the next general election period (no specials) to finish out the vacating member’s term. But, as AZ holds their primaries next week(?) I’m not sure if they could run a separate primary process in time for Nov.

The special election will be in 2020, then McCain’s final term ends in 2022.

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:51:30pm

re: #230 Big Beautiful Door

I haven’t worn a watch in years. Not because of radium, but just because with my phone, I don’t really need one.

Watches are a confidence trick invented by the Swiss.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:52:02pm

re: #228 Big Beautiful Door

He must have look at his disapproval rating and got confused; even Rasmussen has Trump underwater.

I often have a brief impulse to read “Rasmussen” as “Rasputin.”

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 8:54:15pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I often have a brief impulse to read “Rasmussen” as “Rasputin.”

Close enough

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:07:55pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:09:15pm

re: #234 Kragar

Close enough

Grigori Efimovich’s polls would have to be unskewed to account for the mysterious Siberian mystic charisma and the tendency of “Gypsy prostitutes and Madeira” to be projected as winners in all contests.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:10:22pm

Rash prediction: Jeff Bezos will buy SpaceX from Elon Musk and combine it with his own Blue Origin space operation. SpaceX was a brilliant, visionary creation but I really think Elon is going around the bend and needs to separate himself from it now.

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Kragar  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:11:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:18:49pm

re: #238 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Just another Pulpit Pimp reciting Frank Luntz tested talking points in front of a bunch of brainwashed marks. I’m sure he didn’t kiss Obama’s ass the way he’s kissing Trump’s!

Another example of why it’s time to kick these pimps off of their tax-exempt Gravy Train. TAX THE CHURCHES!

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Belafon  Aug 26, 2018 • 9:31:53pm

re: #229 BeachDem

Give the guy a break—he just had the numbers backward…or he doesn’t know the difference between approval and disapproval…or yam jr. hadn’t had a chance to photoshop the numbers…

In a separate NBC/WSJ survey, conducted Aug. 22 through Aug. 25, Trump’s approval rating was 44 percent approve and 52 percent disapprove.

nbcnews.com

52% disapprove of how badly he’s been treated. //

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 10:24:49pm

re: #222 Patricia Kayden

I understand your point but Trump would just make the tragedy worse though. I’m still fuming about him throwing paper towels to Puerto Ricans after Hurricane Maria. Moron.

That this is the truth about the president* of the US is a terrible reality - those involved with man made and natural disasters are better off without him.

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fern01  Aug 26, 2018 • 10:25:56pm

re: #228 Big Beautiful Door

He must have look at his disapproval rating and got confused; even Rasmussen has Trump underwater.

Same set of eyes that saw his inauguration crowd as the biggest ever in history.


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