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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:39:37pm

That asshole Ted Cruz is going to win again, isn’t he?

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:41:32pm

Off-Topic, but relevant for this day and age:

What if a “Cyber War” Actually Happened?

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:43:17pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole Ted Cruz is going to win again, isn’t he?

Not if we can help it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:43:34pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole Ted Cruz is going to win again, isn’t he?

I dunno. I can easily see the tactics being used backfiring especially since there’s Cruz on tape talking about global domination and DWIs aren’t exactly career killers.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:49:17pm

Gators got your Granny!

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:50:41pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:50:50pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole Ted Cruz is going to win again, isn’t he?

Honestly I think he will. I am guessing it’ll be by more than 5% too. Sigh.

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wrenchwench  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:51:59pm

Tony Joe has been working on that for a few years. He’s trimmed back the sideburns lately.

Tony Joe White - Polk Salad Annie 1970

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:52:26pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I can easily see the tactics being used backfiring especially since there’s Cruz on tape talking about global domination and DWIs aren’t exactly career killers.

Well. Bragging about sexual assault, and not getting STDs while he avoided Vietnam wasn’t disqualifying for Trump. I doubt global domination and DWI talk will be disqualifying for Cruz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:54:26pm

mohron teevee time…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:55:45pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I can easily see the tactics being used backfiring especially since there’s Cruz on tape talking about global domination and DWIs aren’t exactly career killers.

No, I am just worried about Russia fucking everything up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:57:10pm

re: #11 Eclectic Cyborg

No, I am just worried about Russia fucking everything up.

True enough. Sigh

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 5:57:42pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

mohron teevee time…

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So Donald, how much do you pay Bret to suck you?

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:00:34pm

We’ve won a whole lot of close races this year, and come really close in other places we shouldn’t have. It’ll just take work. Right now, Beto’s doing exactly what he needs to do, going around the state talking to people.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:01:20pm

For someone who complains about fake news, he’s awfully fond of using the media to justify his bs. And btw, Donnie, FNC ratings are down. I guess it’s more profitable for them to whine about HRC or Obama than to apologize for you.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:02:03pm

Jacob Collier’s got a new video out, with a special player piano:

Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough - Jacob Collier

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:02:14pm

re: #14 Belafon

We’ve won a whole lot of close races this year, and come really close in other places we shouldn’t have. It’ll just take work. Right now, Beto’s doing exactly what he needs to do, going around the state talking to people.

Yeah I think he’ll handle this well. No doubt at all to me that he expected this.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:10:30pm

I curse the goddamned Republicans and conspira-liars every day but they’re still around. Pick up the pace, Hillary, a couple of fingers won’t do it.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:13:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:15:21pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I curse the goddamned Republicans and conspira-liars every day but they’re still around. Pick up the pace, Hillary, a couple of fingers won’t do it.

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She’s slacking off. Hillary should have used a shark.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:16:14pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

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My worry is even if we get rid of him, the cycle will repeat itself. Voter amnesia is a real problem in this country.

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makeitstop  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:19:09pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

Gators got your Granny!

Chomp…chomp, chomp…

Here’s a companion tune from Jerry Reed…

Jerry Reed - Amos Moses

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:22:22pm

I try to stay positive folks. You know I do. But this shit is really getting me down. And it’s not going to end well.

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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:23:40pm

A good homage to Tony Joe White. Even mention him in the first part of the lyrics.

Southern Culture On The Skids Voodoo Cadillac

And some good gitpickin’…

Southen Culture On The Skids — Voodoo Cadillac (Bing Lounge)

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:24:20pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I try to stay positive folks. You know I do. But this shit is really getting me down. And it’s not going to end well.

Imagine living in a state where Democrats don’t usually win. You learn to keep fighting. Catherine Krantz is running against John Ratcliffe even though Republicans outnumber Democrats in the district by about 4:1.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:26:05pm

It’s a music thread. So, some music…

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:26:40pm

re: #14 Belafon

We’ve won a whole lot of close races this year, and come really close in other places we shouldn’t have. It’ll just take work. Right now, Beto’s doing exactly what he needs to do, going around the state talking to people.

And current polls are within the margin of error.

At the Star Trek convention, they all said “Vote.”

A couple of months ago I bought a new tote that says, “Vote.”

Whatever else you’re doing in October and November, consider spending some time to Get Out the Vote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:26:45pm

I dream of a brighter day,
When Trump has gone away,
And we can stand as one to say;
“We’re proud of the U.S.A!”

Black and brown and white,
Fighting for what is right,
No hate or fear in sight,
This country: A guiding light.

Where justice reigns once more,
the felons booted out the door.
And everyone, rich and poor,
Has a future to explore.

We will honor those who fought,
And we will gladly take their spot,
Protesting, stirring up the pot,
And rid our nation of the rot.

In a brilliant, glowing wave,
America, we’ve come to save.
For liberty, the pain we gave.
We the many, the proud, the brave.

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Fight on, my friends. Fight on.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:27:02pm

Really, I’m not sure the internet gets any better than this

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BeachDem  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:27:09pm

Aaannnd, his stellar research into Google “bias” is, of course, wrong:

He. Is. Pathetic.

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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:31:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:33:33pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

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was there also a bathtub?

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Teddy's Person  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:34:52pm

re: #29 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Really, I’m not sure the internet gets any better than this

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SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:40:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:41:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:43:33pm

Amy is running in KY-6 against Andy Barr.
Seth is running in KY-4 against Thomas Massie.

Amy has a good chance…Seth, not so much.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:43:42pm

Thinking about the “monkey it up” comment. Here’s the deal: I’m going to pretend for just a little while that while he’d heard the phrase, he’d never put much stock into it. What he should do is come out and say “I’d heard that phrase, and found out today that it’s connotations have no place in 21st century America. I apologize for saying it, and I will be learning not to use it.”

Don’t worry, I’m not holding my breath.

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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:44:48pm
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Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:47:15pm
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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:47:43pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

$12 billion welfare program to bail out people who complain weekly about government waste.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:48:22pm

re: #39 Dr. Matt

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LOL because FNC is soooo credible.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:48:43pm

re: #40 jaunte

$12 billion welfare program to bail out people who complain weekly about government waste.

Yep. Isn’t Trumpworld great?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:49:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:49:50pm
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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:49:57pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:49:59pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Those eyes.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:50:42pm

There aren’t going to be enough lawyers willing to work for Trump to even accept service of all the lawsuits being generated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:52:33pm
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Teukka  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:54:24pm
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ObserverArt  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:54:48pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rachel Maddow had a reporter (didn’t catch her name and I think she was from WaPo) saying there are a lot of really upset people considering how fucked up everything is in the White House. Terrible working conditions because it is hurry up, rush, rush and then do nothing and it all gets changed.

Trump…such a manager, the best…but he likes chaos too.

It was never going to work…too many bought the bullshit.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:55:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:57:01pm

I’m dying here…

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:57:31pm

He’s been glued to the TV today (as every other day).

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 6:59:09pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:00:13pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

He’s been glued to the TV today (as every other day).

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LOL, Gregg Jarrett, author of “The Russia Hoax”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:01:26pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:04:28pm
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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:06:00pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:06:01pm

re: #54 Belafon

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The Intelligence Services hold back on telling The Yam critical information because he’ll just blurt it out in a Tweet.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:06:07pm

re: #57 gocart mozart

The day he became “Ted”.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:07:21pm

re: #58 gocart mozart

Apparently Beto burns off all his Whataburgers, and Ted stores them in his face.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:07:41pm

Fuckface Von Clownstick has tweeted 19 20 times today. Three mentions of FAKE NEWS. Only one mention of each of the following: WITCH HUNT, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. Sad!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:08:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:09:04pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:09:30pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who is taking notes for him or did Fox send him the pop up book?

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:10:40pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:13:49pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:16:40pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I love your eclectic music tastes. :)

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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:19:32pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

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I really don’t want lectures on bigotry self policing from one of the right’s biggest transphobes and islamaphobes.

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gocart mozart  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:19:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:21:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:23:05pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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Puke but yeah conservatives are doing such a great job policing internal bigotry.//

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:24:22pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

mohron teevee time…

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Yeah, that non-disclosure stuff is bullshit right Donny?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:25:30pm

Dory debarking a stick. Debark is worse than de bite.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:31:13pm

re: #31 gocart mozart

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Windows have been very dangerous in Russia lately it seems.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:31:38pm

Oh brother.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:33:04pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Good god, it’s the annoying racists All Star team.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:34:20pm

[bad copy/paste deleted]

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Charles Johnson  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:34:31pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:39:22pm

I have never given a shit about what Kanye West thinks about politics.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:39:34pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

v

I think you missed a control there.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:39:57pm

re: #74 Blind Frog Belly White

Dory debarking a stick. Debark is worse than de bite.

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*WHACK!*

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:40:31pm
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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:41:07pm

Bouncing around Youtube, just cause, and ran across Disturb’s “The Sound of Slience” remake. I know most of you have seen it, but since we’re doing music Wednesday, I’m going to include the link again. The wild part is the video has been views 420 Million times, which is 5 times their second best video.

Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video]

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:48:34pm

re: #84 Belafon

Bouncing around Youtube, just cause, and ran across Disturb’s “The Sound of Slience” remake. I know most of you have seen it, but since we’re doing music Wednesday, I’m going to include the link again. The wild part is the video has been views 420 Million times, which is 5 times their second best video.

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Video

Another good Disturbed track:

Disturbed - Open Your Eyes [Official Lyric Video]

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:48:57pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

You win.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:50:17pm
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Ace-o-aces  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:51:09pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:55:05pm

re: #86 retired cynic

You win.

X10

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:55:40pm

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:56:06pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:56:36pm
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Teukka  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:57:04pm

re: #84 Belafon

Bouncing around Youtube, just cause, and ran across Disturb’s “The Sound of Slience” remake. I know most of you have seen it, but since we’re doing music Wednesday, I’m going to include the link again. The wild part is the video has been views 420 Million times, which is 5 times their second best video.

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Video

It is best live though. I’ve heard it many times, but this one gives me goosebumps still:

Disturbed “The Sound Of Silence” 03/28/16

(Protip: LOUD)

Worthy cover if there ever was one.

And there’s a backstory to the recording:

DISTURBED - DAVID DRAIMAN SPEAKS ON “THE SOUND OF SILENCE”

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 29, 2018 • 7:57:21pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:05:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:11:35pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

I try to stay positive folks. You know I do. But this shit is really getting me down. And it’s not going to end well.

I’m optimistic that Democrats will flip the House. Schumer’s deal with Republicans to not contest 15 judicial nominees is bizarre to me though.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:14:35pm

re: #87 jaunte

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How is Trump getting away with this blatant discrimination. This needs to be challenged in court. Let them explain this foolishness to a judge.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:15:26pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

They’re counting on executive branch speed vs. judicial delay.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:17:57pm

re: #97 Patricia Kayden

How is Trump getting away with this blatant discrimination. This needs to be challenged in court. Let them explain this foolishness to a judge.

There have been challenges that have been won, but challenges take time, money, and extract a personal cost on those who are affected.

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Ace-o-aces  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:24:26pm
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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:29:53pm

Another thing I’ve noticed that’s big on YouTube is reaction videos, where one or more people record their first viewing of a video or listening to a song. One of the more interesting things to see is the reaction of black British citizens to “This is America,” and subsequently my reaction to theirs. They don’t have the context that even us white Americans have - the news, our neighbors, Twitter, here, etc. - so, for a lot of them, they don’t quite understand what is going on in the video. They know there’s more meaning than the can be gotten by just watching it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:31:52pm

re: #84 Belafon

Fun fact: Disturbed received a personal compliment from Paul Simon about how good the cover is.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:31:54pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:33:59pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Weird graphic. At first glance the red background looked like an especially intense fire, perhaps Phyllis and other departed bigots burning in hell. I see now though that it is a shot of the audience.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:35:24pm

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

perhaps Phyllis and other departed bigots burning in hell. I see now though that it is a shot of the audience

“All of them, Kirel.”

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Dr. Matt  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:37:04pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:38:06pm

You guys might remember I like to take in street music. The guy here on violin, Jeremy Jones is pretty good. This afternoon on the red line we were treated to acoustic guitar and violin. Not great vocals by the sidekick, but hey far better than I would be.

Is it just me ‘cause Black Violin, but I have seen two other guys on violin and one on the Uke on the red line lately. String resurgence? Minstrels popular again?

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:49:32pm

Here is something beautiful: a photographer in love with the Salar de Uyuni, the world’s largest salt flat, 12,000 feet up in the mountains of Bolivia. She found her photographs as taken didn’t express the unworldliness of the scene, so she started adding filters to develop what she felt.

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jaunte  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:54:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:54:19pm

My wife and I are in Westminster, Colo. tonight (to have our car serviced after our Yukon trip tomorrow), after which we will stay at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver over the weekend for an international meet-up.

While we’re here, the electrical contractor will be rewiring our house; he says it will be done by Sunday. (We return Sunday night.) If everything goes as hoped, we will have electricity in our house again Monday.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:56:33pm

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

google.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 8:58:25pm

re: #18 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I curse the goddamned Republicans and conspira-liars every day but they’re still around. Pick up the pace, Hillary, a couple of fingers won’t do it.

A lawsuit for slander might.

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:12:00pm
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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:16:10pm
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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:21:52pm

Ha, ha!
My rep is representing!

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:24:06pm

re: #115 JordanRules

Ha, ha!
My rep is representing!

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Me! I can do that. Pick me!

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:29:27pm

re: #116 retired cynic

Me! I can do that. Pick me!

Ohhh good point!
I’d love to be in that “study” too. Gimme that good fat!

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retired cynic  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:30:33pm

re: #117 JordanRules

Ohhh good point!
I’d love to be in that “study” too. Gimme that good fat!

I’m actually doing that now. It is the one fat I am really allowed on my diet, and so I chow through one a day, made in guacamole, with tomatoes and onions and hot peppers. Yum!

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JordanRules  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:34:33pm

re: #118 retired cynic

I’m actually doing that now. It is the one fat I am really allowed on my diet, and so I chow through one a day, made in guacamole, with tomatoes and onions and hot peppers. Yum!

That’s my go-to configuration too. Simple and divine guac. I use it naked, just cut-up in things too but that tomato, onion, hot pepper (I usually use serranos) is unmatched.

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Teukka  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:34:59pm
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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:44:43pm

re: #120 Teukka

“Don’t politicize McCain’s funeral!”
Well, he did it without our help.

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Belafon  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:52:43pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:53:30pm

re: #107 Unshaken Defiance

You guys might remember I like to take in street music. The guy here on violin, Jeremy Jones is pretty good. This afternoon on the red line we were treated to acoustic guitar and violin. Not great vocals by the sidekick, but hey far better than I would be.

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Is it just me ‘cause Black Violin, but I have seen two other guys on violin and one on the Uke on the red line lately. String resurgence? Minstrels popular again?

You get beautiful music. When I ride the Purple Line all I got to see was has-been Leif Garrett get arrested for black tar heroin…or Melrose Larry Green running back and forth in that car urging people to vote Republican on Election Day…

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 29, 2018 • 9:56:06pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:08:37pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:16:36pm

I lived across the street from this place. In summer months, when it was hot, we would sit in the air-conditioned BART display car after the hot bus ride home from school.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:17:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:23:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:37:04pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

google.com

LOL … perhaps I should take a tour. Like Pokémon, gotta catch them all?

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:37:35pm

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Kragar  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:43:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:45:16pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

From the NPR article of the dipshit nurse who said even after she saw how serious measles is, but antivaxxers are still “correct in their convictions” (funny how antivax works exactly like a religion, you have to deny scientific discovery):

Another screenshot shows her saying she considered “swabbing his mouth” to bring a live measles sample home to her child.

That would be a Federal offense (transporting biohazard material without a license) along with battery (inducing an infectious disease knowingly in a child).

This nurse doesn’t need to be fired: She needs to lose her license and be blackballed. Let her suck on her convictions in the unemployment line.

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teleskiguy  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:54:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:54:38pm

Any bets on whether Facebook has banned this group? (I’m betting “no”) The group is still active, simply named “Tea Party”
facebook.com

There is a whole lot of derp on that page. It has about 95,000 members.

UPDATE: Rep. Ron DeSantis has quit the Facebook group that trafficked in racist and offensive slurs, following American Ledger’s reporting on Wednesday. - 8:54 PM

Ron DeSantis, the Trump-endorsed congressman who won Tuesday’s GOP primary for Florida governor, is an administrator on an active Facebook group where conservatives share racist, conspiratorial and incendiary posts about a litany of targets, including black Americans and South Africans, the “deep state,” survivors of February’s massacre at a Florida high school, immigrants, Muslims and, in recent days, John McCain.

DeSantis was listed as one of the group’s 52 administrators and moderators as of Wednesday. His involvement in the group was first noted by a researcher for Media Matters for America on Tuesday.

DeSantis’s campaign was already defending the congressman from accusations of racial insensitivity after his primary victory.

(more)

american-ledger.com

Four tweets, outlining moderators include Kelli Ward and Corey Stewart, others working for ACT for America, &c.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 10:56:14pm

Left out the Twitter thread. The person is a researcher for Media Matters for America.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 11:12:10pm

LOL

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 29, 2018 • 11:15:32pm

Fun with Google Earth in 3D mode. The path up the east side of Mt Whitney.

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Anymouse 🌹  Aug 29, 2018 • 11:31:13pm

re: #137 Single-handed sailor

Fun with Google Earth in 3D mode. The path up the east side of Mt Whitney.

You sure that’s not the Antarctic Ice Wall around the Flat Earth (tm)?

I’m going to get to bed. Gotta be up early in the morning. Y’all will just have to do without me. (Sounds of breaking out pizza and beer… .)

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 29, 2018 • 11:58:29pm

Guys, Facebook is pure trash

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:26:30am

Really curious to see how John Krasinski will do with Jack Ryan in the new Amazon series.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:36:14am

Nom.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:55:08am
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 30, 2018 • 2:00:48am

More than 1,250,500 acres (1954 square miles) have burned in California in 2018. We still have two months of fire season at least.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 2:33:41am

I am now two degrees removed from Malala Yousafzai and her father! My stepson met them at this conference in Salt Lake City. He says Ziauddin Yousafzai is a pretty down-to-earth man and Malala is just charming.

medium.com

pluralsight.com

I have requested photos and/or an autograph or two. ;-)

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freetoken  Aug 30, 2018 • 2:38:16am

Been binge watching GoT. Never really got into it before. It seemed to me, and still strikes me, as just an attempt to get as many naked bodies on screen as possible, as HBO knows sex sells. That was one of the early calling cards of HBO.

Anyway, most of the stories in GoT are very filled with tropes, and the show is full of covert racism.

However, one of its redeeming qualities is that the videography at times strives to be more than just the usual TV filler:

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2018 • 2:44:46am

re: #143 Single-handed sailor

More than 1,250,500 acres (1954 square miles) have burned in California in 2018. We still have two months of fire season at least.

for comparison purposes…

Rhode Island is 1545 square miles
Delaware is 2489 square miles

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Kragar  Aug 30, 2018 • 2:45:50am
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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:12:05am

re: #147 Kragar

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MIND. BLOWN.

Also:

And Snopes for both:
- snopes.com
- snopes.com

Curioser and Curioser, as Alice said…
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:22:47am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

That asshole Ted Cruz is going to win again, isn’t he?

Probably, but Texas is a big state, and if Beta can at least force the GOP to spend a lot of money to keep Cruz in the Senate, that’s money they can’t spend elsewhere. And who knows? If a Democrat can win in Alabama, they can win anywhere!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:30:07am

re: #140 JordanRules

Really curious to see how John Krasinski will do with Jack Ryan in the new Amazon series.

He had quite a big hit with A Quiet Place.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:33:20am

re: #148 Teukka

MIND. BLOWN.

Also:

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And Snopes for both:
- snopes.com
- snopes.com

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This may sound a bit woo-ish, but have you heard of the theory of “pre-echoes”, it basically goes that a big and traumatic enough causes interesting effects ahead of time?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:35:28am

re: #151 Teukka

This may sound a bit woo-ish, but have you heard of the theory of “pre-echoes”, it basically goes that a big and traumatic enough causes interesting effects ahead of time?

Wait, does that mean we are sometimes in the backwash of events occurring ahead in the space-time continuum?

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:42:14am

re: #151 Teukka

This may sound a bit woo-ish, but have you heard of the theory of “pre-echoes”, it basically goes that a big and traumatic enough causes interesting effects ahead of time?

or…

the 1958 TV show could be that the scriptwriter was a Woody Guthrie fan, and knew that Woody had written an anti-Trump song a few years before (about Donald’s dad Fred)… and Fred was already famous at least in New York.

and the 1990 comic — Donald was already a “Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous” famous person, Ronald Reagan had parlayed celebrity into the presidency, and Donald had given a few Larry King interviews musing about maybe running for president some day.

then again, maybe you’re right. Maybe it’s foreshocks. Or we’re living in a computer simulation that deliberately inserted clues earlier in the game.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:42:20am
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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:46:04am

re: #152 Barefoot Grin

Wait, does that mean we are sometimes in the backwash of events occurring ahead in the space-time continuum?

That’s the basic gist of it, yes. You remember the “Wreck of the Titan: Or futility”, a.k.a. “Futility” (which was the original title) written in 1898 by Morgan Robertson? It usually takes that form, uncanny coincidences. And there is said to be a relationship with the magnitude of the trauma of the event to the temporal distance to the pre-echo and number of pre-echos (tho in this instance, the cartoon may be using the TV series as a template).

Another name can be Synchronicity.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:46:09am

re: #154 MsJ

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:51:22am

re: #153 sagehen

or…

the 1958 TV show could be that the scriptwriter was a Woody Guthrie fan, and knew that Woody had written an anti-Trump song a few years before (about Donald’s dad Fred)… and Fred was already famous at least in New York.

and the 1990 comic — Donald was already a “Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous” famous person, Ronald Reagan had parlayed celebrity into the presidency, and Donald had given a few Larry King interviews musing about maybe running for president some day.

then again, maybe you’re right. Maybe it’s foreshocks. Or we’re living in a computer simulation that deliberately inserted clues earlier in the game.

Or simply a bug in the sim, a lá Matrix. I’ve had a handful of them in my life.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 3:59:40am

And now for something completely different…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:01:44am

re: #154 MsJ

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:03:29am
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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:03:30am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:04:37am

Trump appears to be a classic narcissist, but this article argues he has an antisocial personality, which is even worse.

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unproven innocence  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:12:03am

BURN NOTICE CIA Analyst Turned Candidate Fears She’ll Get Doxxed Next
Spencer Ackerman 08.29.18

At least 34 intelligence and military veterans are running for House or Senate seats in 2018. And now, there’s a very real risk that their private lives could be exposed.

Because the doxxing has already happened to one Democrat candidate:
C.I.A. Officer-Turned-Candidate Says PAC Obtained Her Security Application By Michael Tackett Aug. 28, 2018

WASHINGTON — A former C.I.A. officer running for Congress accused a super PAC aligned with Speaker Paul D. Ryan on Tuesday of improperly obtaining her entire federal security clearance application — a highly sensitive document containing extensive personal information — and then using it for political purposes.

Her entire SR-86 application, unredacted.

Maddow clued me in about this story.

Youtube Video

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:14:41am

re: #160 Dave In Austin

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Should have kept your yap shut Ronnie and Shapiro please tell us more about how he’s not a racist.//

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:16:16am

re: #163 unproven innocence

BURN NOTICE CIA Analyst Turned Candidate Fears She’ll Get Doxxed Next
Spencer Ackerman 08.29.18

At least 34 intelligence and military veterans are running for House or Senate seats in 2018. And now, there’s a very real risk that their private lives could be exposed.

Because the doxxing has already happened to one Democrat candidate:
C.I.A. Officer-Turned-Candidate Says PAC Obtained Her Security Application By Michael Tackett Aug. 28, 2018

Her entire SR-86 application, unredacted.

Whole thing is basically what Alex Jones accuses everyone else of doing to wingnuts but it’s okay because Abigail and these people are Democrats and critics of Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:17:02am

re: #142 JordanRules

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Those are the same people who were obsessed with how Obama described terrorism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:31:29am

So though Trump mocks Sessions accents, that he’s a non Ivy lawyer but yeah white Southerners he really respects us. He doesn’t respect anyone who isn’t kissing his ass. That’s why he loves Kanye West who lol is now a Breitbart favorite agsin. Oh and btw Kanye the President who did most for African Americans just might be the President who got slavery abolished or maybe one of the ones that got civil rights legislation passed but I get it, you’re like Trump, a pathetic attention junkie.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:31:53am

re: #164 HappyWarrior

That bigot that lost in AZ? She’s also a moderator on that site.

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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:32:47am

re: #31 gocart mozart

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Russians are some of the clumsiest fresh-air getters of any group on earth.

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:34:14am

re: #148 Teukka

MIND. BLOWN.

Also:

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And Snopes for both:
- snopes.com
- snopes.com

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You have entered… The Twilight Zone…

Trump Rallies Eerily Resemble Twilight Zone Hitler Episode

“Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare - Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there’s hate, where there’s prejudice, where there’s bigotry. He’s alive. He’s alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He’s alive because through these things we keep him alive.”
— Twilight Zone [S04E04 “He’s Alive”]
Original air date: January 24, 1963

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:34:45am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:36:34am

I realized that the reason Republicans hate McCain is because he wasn’t a depraved sociopath like Trump is. What do they hate about Mccain? He thought democracy shouldn’t be for sale, he favored treating immigrants like human beings, he opposed torture and he wouldn’t vote to ram through a bill to take health care coverage away from 20 million people without any hearings or debate. Trump is their kind of monster; he doesn’t have an ounce of compassion or empathy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:37:26am

re: #168 Dave In Austin

That bigot that lost in AZ? She’s also a moderator on that site.

Conservatives keep on insisting they’re not racists until they prove it with their words and actions.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:40:48am

re: #172 Big Beautiful Door

I realized that the reason Republicans hate McCain is because he wasn’t a depraved sociopath like Trump is. What do they hate about Mccain? He thought democracy shouldn’t be for sale, he favored treating immigrants like human beings, he opposed torture and he wouldn’t vote to ram through a bill to take health care coverage away from 20 million people without any hearings or debate. Trump is their kind of monster; he doesn’t have an ounce of compassion or empathy.

I think you got it. I disagreed with McCain’s solutions to the problems we faced more than not but he believed in our system for everyone and you would never see him rationalize a dictator the way Trump has.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:43:07am

re: #50 ObserverArt

Rachel Maddow had a reporter (didn’t catch her name and I think she was from WaPo) saying there are a lot of really upset people considering how fucked up everything is in the White House. Terrible working conditions because it is hurry up, rush, rush and then do nothing and it all gets changed.

Trump…such a manager, the best…but he likes chaos too.

It was never going to work…too many bought the bullshit.

I used to work for a company where that was our daily life. HURRY! WRITE THIS! GET IT DONE!

Then…

STOP THAT! WE NEED TO DO THIS. HURRY! WRITE THIS! GET IT DONE!

Over and over.

It was so frustrating to do the hurry up and wait shuffle week after week. I felt like I was doing nothing, accomplishing nothing. It sucked.

For this WH though…accomplishing noting is far better than accomplishing anything.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:45:03am

Panicking

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:47:22am
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steve_davis  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:57:02am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

My wife and I are in Westminster, Colo. tonight (to have our car serviced after our Yukon trip tomorrow), after which we will stay at the Brown Palace Hotel in Denver over the weekend for an international meet-up.

While we’re here, the electrical contractor will be rewiring our house; he says it will be done by Sunday. (We return Sunday night.) If everything goes as hoped, we will have electricity in our house again Monday.

I love how you so casually throw out that you can move backwards and forwards along the time stream!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 4:59:38am

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

Fun fact: Disturbed received a personal compliment from Paul Simon about how good the cover is.

I have been a fan of that song since it came out and was impressed by D’s cover.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:20:58am

Sure sure.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:22:28am

re: #151 Teukka

Part of the story of Childhood’s End.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:23:01am

re: #180 MsJ

Sure sure.

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He’s a hell of a nice guy that Hatch, just ask him.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:23:43am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:23:46am

re: #154 MsJ

Think of someone trying to walk into a hurricane.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:25:53am

Good morning Lizards:

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:28:44am

re: #185 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Good morning Lizards:

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Kelli Ward’s batshit crazy was too much for [most of] Donnie supporters. Just think about that.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:28:45am

re: #124 Single-handed sailor

Trump is berating Sessions to “any Senator who will listen.” Hates his Southern accent, says he “talks like he has marbles in his mouth”

plus his college education

that’s t***p. all ad hom

nothing simple like “i want him out because he’s doing a rotten job”

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:29:58am

A smooth running machine gradually falling apart as it rolls toward a cliff …

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:30:20am
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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:30:37am

re: #183 MsJ

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How can you plead guilty to something you said you never did???

Unless…

Scum Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:31:03am

re: #185 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Good morning Lizards:

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Yes, Erick, that’s your party. They also nominated Corey Stewart in my state.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:31:31am

re: #189 Dr. Matt

Re Trump’s meltdown: I wonder if Mueller’s team has told Giuliani they’re no longer interested in sitting down with Trump, and that in fact he should consider himself a target of the investigation or that he’s likely to be named as an un-indicted co-conspirator.

Trump knows that he cannot open his mouth under oath without contradicting either himself or other sworn testimony.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:32:46am

re: #180 MsJ

Yeah, they treated the first black president so well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:34:00am

also, his twitter banner pic is now one of Pence.
hmmm

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:34:09am

re: #143 Single-handed sailor

More than 1,250,500 acres (1954 square miles) have burned in California in 2018. We still have two months of fire season at least.

do all the fires instantly go out then?
j/k - sorta

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:35:13am

re: #195 dangerman

do all the fires instantly go out then?
j/k - sorta

that is supposed to be the start of rainy season…if it comes this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:35:42am
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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:36:38am

re: #187 dangerman

plus his college education

that’s t***p. all ad hom

nothing simple like “i want him out because he’s doing a rotten job”

The thing is, Sessions is executing the Trump agenda, the only problem from Trump’s pov is he won’t fire Mueller and shut down the Russia investigation. Something I noticed in terms of yet more GOP hypocrisy. Remember how the Right went crazy about Bill Clinton spending a few minutes talking to Loretta Lynn because they were sure he was telling her to stop the investigation of Hillary’s emails? Trump openly tweets every damn day about how Sessions should stop the Russia investigation, and nobody bats an eye.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:38:05am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:38:30am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

Probably, but Texas is a big state, and if Beta can at least force the GOP to spend a lot of money to keep Cruz in the Senate, that’s money they can’t spend elsewhere. And who knows? If a Democrat can win in Alabama, they can win anywhere!

in 2012 cruz won 56% to 41%

whether he wins in november or not, he’s already lost
and my feeling this trend is an indiciation of the future of texas

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:39:06am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still can’t spell that one word, counsel, like he’s got some kind of psychic block against it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:39:51am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Seriously it does all these candidates a disservice to just liken them to Bernie because he supported them. It’s not only wrong but it’s intellectually lazy. Gillum is his own man.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:40:44am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

Trump appears to be a classic narcissist, but this article argues he has an antisocial personality, which is even worse.

porque no los dos?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:40:56am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Still can’t spell that one word, counsel, like he’s got some kind of psychic block against it.

It’s how he relates to his base all the while belittling Sessions for not being an Ivy Leaguer like his pampered ass.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:41:10am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump knows that he cannot open his mouth under oath without contradicting either himself or other sworn testimony.

Donnie or his handlers? At this point I honestly believe that Donnie is suffering from one or more mental illnesses where he is incapable of differentiating between reality and fiction/lies. Certainly, his handlers are well aware that Donnie is incapable of telling the truth and should be scared shitless about the possibility of a sit down with investigators.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:41:14am

re: #203 dangerman

porque no los dos?

Si

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:42:43am

re: #172 Big Beautiful Door

I realized that the reason Republicans hate McCain is because he wasn’t a depraved sociopath like Trump is. What do they hate about Mccain? He thought democracy shouldn’t be for sale, he favored treating immigrants like human beings, he opposed torture and he wouldn’t vote to ram through a bill to take health care coverage away from 20 million people without any hearings or debate. Trump is their kind of monster; he doesn’t have an ounce of compassion or empathy.

i wonder if trump wasnt pres, or mccain had died before 2016 so there was no direct comparison to trump, that the right’s reaction to mccain in death would be totally different

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:42:51am

The Ohio State Highway Patrol said a mixture of heroin and fentanyl has been identified as the substance that sickened 29 people, including staff and inmates, at Ross Correctional Institution in Chillicothe on Wednesday.

The substance that caused an apparent overdose of one inmate and required medical attention for 27 staff members. Approximately 31 inmates who were not affected were removed from the cellblock and relocated inside the facility.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:44:02am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hate to say it but many simply won’t care because ya know inmates.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:45:44am

re: #207 dangerman

i wonder if trump wasnt pres, or mccain had died before 2016 so there was no direct comparison to trump, that the right’s reaction to mccain in death would be totally different

The Trump Cult has certainly made it worse, but a lot of hatred for McCain already existed on the Tea Party Right. McCain’s obvious disdain for Trump has only heightened it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:48:33am

re: #210 Big Beautiful Door

The Trump Cult has certainly made it worse, but a lot of hatred for McCain already existed on the Tea Party Right. McCain’s obvious disdain for Trump has only heightened it.

It was before then too I remember. They hated that he called out Falwell, his views on torture/immigration, & that he didn’t totally support the Bush tax cuts.

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Weaselone  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:50:40am

re: #185 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Hmmm… 28%+19%=47%. That’s awfully close to half of Republican voters in Arizona being for lack of a better word, deplorable. You could even split the party into two roughly equal containers on that basis and end up with a basket of deplorables.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:52:35am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

Note to media: please stop treating @AndrewGillum like he’s a Bernie Sanders clone just because @SenSanders endorsed him while you ignore the fact that Mayor Gillum was a @HillaryClinton delegate who was on her list of possible VP candidates.

Democrats in Disarray and

Democrats Lunge Far Left

are the two major media talking points

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:53:14am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

Donnie or his handlers? At this point I honestly believe that Donnie is suffering from one or more mental illnesses where he is incapable of differentiating between reality and fiction/lies. Certainly, his handlers are well aware that Donnie is incapable of telling the truth and should be scared shitless about the possibility of a sit down with investigators.

He has never had to face negative personal consequences from anything he has ever said or done

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:54:34am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Democrats in Disarray and

Democrats Lunge Far Left

are the two major media talking points

Yet nothing about how the President’s top policy aide is a protege of Richard Spencer.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:55:56am

re: #176 Dave In Austin

Panicking

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The news from the Financial Markets is even better than anticipated. For all of you that have made a fortune in the markets, *you know unlike me*

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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 5:59:02am
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jeffreyw  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:01:22am

Ack! Imgur embed not working!
Good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:01:47am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:03:40am

re: #218 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

I see nada

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:05:22am

Is he live tweeting F&F again?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:05:26am

re: #220 Stanley Sea

I see nada

snowstorm?

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:06:06am
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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:08:16am

It’s just after 9 am DC time, and Donnie has already made 8 batshit crazy tweets. I think we are going to see a 20+ tweet day.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:09:59am

He’s wrong again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:11:19am

re: #225 I Would Prefer Not To

I am very excited about the person who will be taking the place of Don McGahn as White House Councel! I liked Don, but he was NOT responsible for me not firing Bob Mueller or Jeff Sessions. So much Fake Reporting and Fake News!

Kristol and the GOP would love to see that, they know that they need to face a totally socialist leftist radical Democratic Party if they want to win again.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:11:27am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

It’s just after 9 am DC time, and Donnie has already made 8 batshit crazy tweets. I think we are going to see a 20+ tweet day.

Go go gadget “Make Trump Tweets Eight Again” engage

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:11:34am

re: #221 wheat-dogg

Is he live tweeting F&F again?

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JFC.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:12:02am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

It’s just after 9 am DC time, and Donnie has already made 8 batshit crazy tweets. I think we are going to see a 20+ tweet day.

I’m expecting another major Friday afternoon news drop from the Mueller investigation, or any of the other investigations into Trump & Co.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:12:20am

re: #224 Dr. Matt

It’s just after 9 am DC time, and Donnie has already made 8 batshit crazy tweets. I think we are going to see a 20+ tweet day.

Well, Q did say to expect a big week this week!

//

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:12:32am

re: #225 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s wrong again.

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No
One will be a governor
The other a senator

Simple. See?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:12:38am

The Dems do not need to go full-on Bernie socialist to win, but they do need to stress all the ways that they are not the GOP.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:14:45am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:15:48am

re: #191 HappyWarrior

Yes, Erick, that’s your party. They also nominated Corey Stewart in my state.

Desantis in mine

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jeffreyw  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:15:54am

re: #220 Stanley Sea

refresh, I went with a tweet embed, Imgur not working this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:17:53am

re: #221 wheat-dogg

Is he live tweeting F&F again?

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he actually sounds just like GollumTrump in that tweet

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:18:19am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kristol and the GOP would love to see that, they know that they need to face a totally socialist leftist radical Democratic Party if they want to win again.

1. If Manchin were the Democratic nominee in 2020, it would be the most radical socialist presidential campaign the GOP has ever seen.
2. How is a Senator from Texas going to be seen as socialist, other than being a Democrat?

That said, Beto at the top of the ticket, making Texas a battleground state, would be huge. Not that I know enough about his leadership style to know if he would be a good candidate.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:22:26am

To give Trump some credit, he did say “fudging the tape” about Lester Holt and refrained from the more obvious “monkeying it up.” /////

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:25:27am

re: #103 jaunte

He’s off to a flying start this morning.

He’s already had 9 tweets this morning. And it’s the same incessant yapping.

Why?

Because Papadopoulos accepted the plea deal after his wife spent weeks claiming that he was going to back out.

Because Trumpworld’s chaos continues to be the big suck.

Because Trump knows that Mueller has receipts on everything Trump’s doing.

Because Trump can’t bully Sessions out of the AG (and slagging Sessions for not being an Ivy Leaguer is hilarious when considering that Trump always claims that he hires the best people; THE BEST!).

Because Trump is being the tangerine toddler he’s been since before he launched his campaign in 2016.

Because not everyone in journalism is knuckling under his incessant attacks.

Because truth will out (but the damage is being done).

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:27:15am

re: #233 Belafon

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Women are going to have to save our country.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:28:04am

Greets and saluts from the continuing to swelter NYC metro area.

The heat must be getting to Trump with the nonstop tweets today.

It’s all he can do is rage into the internets to rile up his bigot brigade base. It’s what he’s good at doing.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:29:21am

a reporter should ask trump:

in your campaign you said you only hire the best
here’s the list of people who left or were fired
here’s a list of those that were indicted or admitted and took a plea

was that team the best or is the team you have now the best?

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:33:23am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I heard one report on last evenings news where one guy was saying it was put into the heating/air conditioning system.

That seems rather odd, but until it is made a fact I’m not going to believe it. Though you do have to wonder how so many came into contact with it.

They had to use Narcan on some of the people affected.

Along with that occurring there were reports that 4 people on the south side of Columbus died of overdoses in a 10 hour period Tuesday evening into early Wednesday morning. They suspect they all received the same fentanyl batch.

Ohio seems to be having a real bad problem with fentanyl.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:35:28am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Hate to say it but many simply won’t care because ya know inmates.

I kinda got the impression there were more than inmates that were involved. It sounded like some staff at the prison were also drugged.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:37:03am

Most detailed story.

They found her.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:37:05am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Democrats in Disarray and

Democrats Lunge Far Left

are the two major media talking points

Oh, that liberal media.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:40:08am

re: #244 ObserverArt

I kinda got the impression there were more than inmates that were involved. It sounded like some staff at the prison were also drugged.

Oh I saw that too.

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:41:34am

When my wife flew to California on Monday, she drove to work and left her car there. When she returned home yesterday morning, the car drove her home from the airport.

Which meant I had to drive her to work this morning, experiencing the unadulterated joy that is morning rush hour on Long Island.

Which makes me happier than ever that I work from home. What a mess.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:41:51am

re: #241 lawhawk

What exactly is he ranting about? Hasn’t the decision about McGahn leaving been in the public domain for a while now? Grampa needs a nap.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:42:09am

Happy birthday Molly ivins

“The American press has always had a tendency to assume that the truth must lie exactly halfway between any two opposing points of view. Thus, if the press presents the man who says Hitler is an ogre and the man who says Hitler is a prince, it believes it has done the full measure of its journalistic duty”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:45:53am

re: #246 ObserverArt

Oh, that liberal media.

They simple pursue headlines that enhance readership/viewership. which is why they love having President Trump, people are fixated on him as a media star

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 6:46:04am

re: #226 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Kristol and the GOP would love to see that, they know that they need to face a totally socialist leftist radical Democratic Party if they want to win again.

Wait…didn’t you just post something about the media saying the Democrats “Lunge Far Left?” And, now you are using it yourself?

Are you saying O’Rourke and Gillum are really far left by calling them socialist leftist radicals?

Are you Bernie…or are you a Republican media mogul?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:00:03am

re: #225 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s wrong again.

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Jay C  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:00:53am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Democrats in Disarray and

Democrats Lunge Far Left

are the two major media talking points

Well, this IS the “Mainstream Media”, whose default settings for political commentary are inevitably “GOP”. Facile talking-points about how Democrats are (always) “out-of-touch” or “extremist” are their stock go-to cliches every time Dems look like they’re going to make gains. Anywhere.
Of course, if the Democratic Party really had its act together, we would be seeing a big pushback against this glib nonsense from Party hierarchy: pointing out the obvious: that the policies and programs Democrats run on and support actually ARE the “mainstream” - and popular - and that its is the Republicans who have veered off the rails (because they have been paid to).
Key word above, though: “IF”….

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fern01  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:01:43am

re: #176 Dave In Austin

Panicking

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Any growth for the past few months has come via the tax cuts, not via any company growth. If I was near retirement age with a 401K I would make sure the investments were spread across many different areas. I still remember the enron employees who lost their jobs and their retirement funds - not to mention the 2008 crash.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:04:59am

Another molly:

“I have been attacked by Rush Limbaugh on the air, an experience somewhat akin to being gummed by a newt. It doesn’t actually hurt, but it leaves you with slimy stuff on your ankle.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:05:55am

re: #256 dangerman

Another molly:

“I have been attacked by Rush Limbaugh on the air, an experience somewhat akin to being gummed by a newt. It doesn’t actually hurt, but it leaves you with slimy stuff on your ankle.”

Haha I miss her. She had a way with words.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:06:23am

re: #255 fern01

Any growth for the past few months has come via the tax cuts, not via any company growth. If I was near retirement age with a 401K I would make sure the investments were spread across many different areas. I still remember the enron employees who lost their jobs and their retirement funds - not to mention the 2008 crash.

My cousin Mark worked for Bell Labs which became Lucent after he left the Marine Corps. At one point his 401k was worth 750K. It was all locked into Lucent stock.

Then Carly Fiorina came in and looted not only Mark’s 401k, she also looted the health care financial reserve.

Mark wound up with nothing but his Social Security and Medicare.

Carly Fiorina can go intercourse itself.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:08:35am

re: #255 fern01

Any growth for the past few months has come via the tax cuts, not via any company growth. If I was near retirement age with a 401K I would make sure the investments were spread across many different areas. I still remember the enron employees who lost their jobs and their retirement funds - not to mention the 2008 crash.

Retired four years ago. Just moved a chunk from 401k to real estate, including a rental property that is like a second SS income stream and a disc golf course that is beginning to produce revenue. Planning to move yet another chunk out yet this fall if things don’t collapse before then.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:15:48am

re: #255 fern01

Half of my 401k is in money markets, the rest is spread out normally among stocks and bonds.

The last time I had it set like this was 2000-2001 and to a lesser extent 2009…I don’t predict the future, but I have been lucky at avoiding serious fuckery.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:17:31am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Black Women are going to have to save our country.

ftfy

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:18:59am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

ftfy

Can we make that: People of color are going to save our country?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:19:11am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

ftfy

They did in Alabama thank goodness and Doug Jones specifically thanked them. They are our rocks. Supporting Democrats in the best and worst years politically.

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:19:56am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:20:12am

re: #262 ObserverArt

Can we make that: People of color are going to save our country?

That too. Man I hate how my demo votes. I hate that white men think the GOP has their interests at heart which is only true if you’re obscenely wealthy.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:21:16am

re: #264 makeitstop

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Yeah that’s normal behavior for POTUS. FFS even Nixon could handle it when LBJ, Truman, & Ike died.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:22:59am

lol, tough shit Chelsea

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:23:31am

re: #264 makeitstop

White House staff are worried the president will be jealous of the attention being paid to a dead man.

well if he wants the same attention….

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can't think of a decent username  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:24:32am

re: #162 Big Beautiful Door

Trump appears to be a classic narcissist, but this article argues he has an antisocial personality, which is even worse.

Ya wanna really get nervous about our future? Somewhere between a third to half of the country probably have the exact same disorder.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:24:43am

re: #267 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

lol, tough shit Chelsea

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Actions have consequences who knew.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:24:54am

re: #268 dangerman

well if he wants the same attention….

He could resign.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:25:50am

re: #271 Belafon

He could resign.

It would get yuuuge ratings!

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:26:28am

re: #271 Belafon

He could resign.

that too

i was going, er, elsewhere
if he wanted that kind of attention he needed to be in that situation….

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:26:53am

re: #268 dangerman

well if he wants the same attention….

I like how you think, DM.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:28:46am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Actions have consequences who knew.

Didn’t read the comments, have the dudebros started claiming that Australia has to follow our 1st Amendment?

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:28:48am

re: #273 dangerman

that too

i was going, er, elsewhere
if he wanted that kind of attention he needed to be in that situation….

The one difference between yours and mine is he’d get to enjoy the attention if he did mine, though there’d be more consequences afterwards.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:30:34am

re: #268 dangerman

well if he wants the same attention….

Rejoicing?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:30:59am

re: #275 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Didn’t read the comments, have the dudebros started claiming that Australia has to follow our 1st Amendment?

Wouldn’t surprise me. TBH I didn’t think Obama needed to give her clemency in the first place.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:32:59am

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Actions have consequences who knew.

At least Chelsea has some folks in her corner!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:33:51am

While I’m no hawk and believe in government transparency, I didn’t like the attempt to make Manning then Snowden into heroes especially because of how they both want to treat out country as awful while ignoring the governments and groups that pushed for and the benefits of their leakage and I do believe in the right of national governments to have secrets.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:35:24am

re: #279 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

At least Chelsea has some folks in her corner!!

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Yeah because Russia would just permanently silence whistleblowers. I doubt Manning is okay with that but both her and Snowden and the many lefties I’ve seen laud both are unbelievably naive about national security.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:35:47am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Women are going to have to save our country.

Unfortunately, some of us are nucking futs, too.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:36:32am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:36:36am

re: #171 Dave In Austin

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

Florida voted for Trump and has twice elected a criminal for governor and may now elect this same criminal for Senator. Voting an outright racist in for governor would seem to be in keeping with the current trend in Florida.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:38:50am

man, I was going to read this but I decided to gouge my eyes out instead.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:39:00am

re: #274 makeitstop

I like how you think, DM.

apropos of commuting
three years ago mrs dm was on crutches and couldnt drive
and of course earlier this year there was Denver and lung surgery
i became chauffeur both times

lunacy x10 during sofla’s rush hour
the LIE’s got nothing on the Palmetto Expressway
aside from general lawlessness, no one drives like they want to get where they’re going

(ps - I did the LIRR to nyc for 20 years)

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:40:06am

re: #276 Belafon

The one difference between yours and mine is he’d get to enjoy the attention if he did mine, though there’d be more consequences afterwards.

things should be done in their proper order

i’d settle for resignation, then interment

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:40:33am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

Yeah because Russia would just permanently silence whistleblowers. I doubt Manning is okay with that but both her and Snowden and the many lefties I’ve seen laud both are unbelievably naive about national security.

Manning and Snowden would have been mysteriously thrown out of windows years ago if they did this against Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:42:25am

Lre: #288 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Manning and Snowden would have been mysteriously thrown out of windows years ago if they did this against Russia.

Or came down with polonium poisoning.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:42:45am

re: #285 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

man, I was going to read this but I decided to gouge my eyes out instead.

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GG lives in a Brazil sized bubble.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:44:19am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

Probably, but Texas is a big state, and if Beta can at least force the GOP to spend a lot of money to keep Cruz in the Senate, that’s money they can’t spend elsewhere. And who knows? If a Democrat can win in Alabama, they can win anywhere!

Of course, the Russians have more than enough money to spread around to buy all these elections.

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:44:25am

re: #286 dangerman

apropos of commuting
three years ago mrs dm was on crutches and couldnt drive
and of course earlier this year there was Denver and lung surgery
i became chauffeur both times

lunacy x10 during sofla’s rush hour
the LIE’s got nothing on the Palmetto Expressway
aside from general lawlessness, no one drives like they want to get where they’re going

(ps - I did the LIRR to nyc for 20 years)

On top of the usual 80 gazillion motorists this morning, it seemed like every town decided that this would be ‘mow the grass on the median strips day.’ There were caravans of slow-moving tractors, accompanied by slow-moving dump trucks, followed by millions of pissed-off motorists.

It would have been a little amusing if I wasn’t all caught up in it. I could not get back home fast enough.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:46:05am

re: #291 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, the Russians have more than enough money to spread around to buy all these elections.

From what I understand, Putin is sucking up all of Russia’s money for all of his games.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:46:09am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

While I’m no hawk and believe in government transparency, I didn’t like the attempt to make Manning then Snowden into heroes especially because of how they both want to treat out country as awful while ignoring the governments and groups that pushed for and the benefits of their leakage and I do believe in the right of national governments to have secrets.

I’d still like to know if Snowden in Russia had anything at all to do with the Russian hacking. Just seems awfully convenient to have a known government systems guy that available.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:46:23am

I am wondering perhaps glass half full if the Russian ratfucking may simply not work. I dunno. After what happened in my own state last fall, I’m trying to be optimistic because I really think a lot of people are energized.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:46:45am

re: #294 ObserverArt

I’d still like to know if Snowden in Russia had anything at all to do with the Russian hacking. Just seems awfully convenient to have a known government systems guy that available.

That’s a good question too.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:47:22am

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

Florida voted for Trump and has twice elected a criminal for governor and may now elect this same criminal for Senator. Voting an outright racist in for governor would seem to be in keeping with the current trend in Florida.

Hopefully the Parkland student activities can help turn that in Gillum’s favor.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:47:27am

re: #293 Belafon

From what I understand, Putin is sucking up all of Russia’s money for all of his games.

I hope his people turn on him and he lives in genuine fear for once in his life.

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:48:37am

re: #293 Belafon

From what I understand, Putin is sucking up all of Russia’s money for all of his games.

I’m wondering how close Russia is to having enough of Putin. Opposition seems to have grown of late.

Maybe an overly ambitious oligarch will just decide one day that Putin needs a brain implant, of sorts. I’d love to see how Trump would react to that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:49:48am

I can’t see the Russian masses yearning for Western democracy but I can see them if Vlad’s games start hurting their bottom line turning on him with great anger.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:49:58am

re: #299 makeitstop

I’m wondering how close Russia is to having enough of Putin. Opposition seems to have grown of late.

He is still a hero to the masses and has the broad media fully under his control.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:52:34am
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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:53:56am

After all, Trump and his own lawyers have repeatedly argued that Trump cannot commit obstruction of justice by definition. As that memo from Trump’s team put it, Trump is the “chief law enforcement officer,” and as such, anything he does toward the investigation “could neither constitutionally nor legally constitute obstruction,” meaning that “he could, if he wished, terminate the inquiry.” If so, firing Comey over the Russia probe would not constitute obstruction, either.

But Trump’s lawyers have now concluded that Mueller likely does not agree with this. Politico reports that Trump has been privately lobbying GOP senators to support him if he fires Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Previously, Trump’s lawyers had advised him that this could add to an obstruction case, since he’d be doing this to install a loyalist who would protect him from the probe. But now, Politico reports, his lawyers have changed their minds:

They have come to believe, however, that if Mueller wants to build an obstruction case around Sessions, he has the fodder he needs in the form of a January 2018 New York Times report indicating that the president instructed White House counsel Don McGahn to prevent Sessions from recusing himself — and that Trump aides have talked with Mueller about the episode.

The drumbeat of presidential tweets denigrating Sessions as “weak” and calling on him to “stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now” have also shaped the view among the president’s legal team. They have come to believe that if Mueller wants to build a case that the president has intimidated his attorney general, he can do so given the voluminous public record created by the president — and that firing Sessions won’t change much.

This dovetails with reporting that indicates Mueller has closely examined Trump’s conduct toward Sessions — conduct that already took place — as possible obstruction.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:54:00am

re: #249 Dr. Matt

Ranting about the media lying (even when media is accurately reporting everything Trumpworld is doing).

He’s raging against the machine (which he runs).

As if he needs an excuse.

He thinks the people he chose to surround himself with are incompetent and aren’t doing their job because they’re not loyal to him (being loyal to the Constitution and the rule of law is verboten if it means going against the word of Trump).

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:54:09am

on DeSantis:

If he’s managed to make it to however old he is without learning that you never, ever use words like “monkey” or “ape” or “chimpanzee” when discussing a black person, then he really has no business being governor of the nation’s third-largest state.

likelier, and even worse is he knew exactly what he was doing, and he was stirring up the racist elements of the GOP base

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:54:48am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:55:15am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I can’t see the Russian masses yearning for Western democracy but I can see them if Vlad’s games start hurting their bottom line turning on him with great anger.

The Russian masses will never turn on Putin and the Russian oligarchs have it too good to challenge him, especially since they know that one false move will lead to defenestration.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:57:40am

re: #307 Hecuba’s daughter

The Russian masses will never turn on Putin and the Russian oligarchs have it too good to challenge him, especially since they know that one false move will lead to defenestration.

Considering they did turn on the Czar, never say nrver. They’re not going to be democratic in orientation but if Putin’s actions result in widespread hunger and joblessness, don’t underestimate them.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:57:45am

re: #304 lawhawk

Ranting about the media lying (even when media is accurately reporting everything Trumpworld is doing).

He’s raging against the machine (which he runs).

As if he needs an excuse.

He thinks the people he chose to surround himself with are incompetent and aren’t doing their job because they’re not loyal to him (being loyal to the Constitution and the rule of law is verboten if it means going against the word of Trump).

hence my musing at re: #242 dangerman

you said you only hire the best
here’s the list of people who left or were fired
here’s a list of those that were indicted or admitted and took a plea

was that team the best or is the team you have now the best?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 7:58:11am

re: #306 JordanRules

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Gee where have we heard that phrase? Thanks Hilary.//

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:01:21am

re: #303 MsJ

It appears Trump and his own lawyers have concluded Mueller thinks he already has enough to make the case that Trump obstructed justice.

and now we have evangelical Christians (Falwell) turning on, an actual evangelical Christian (Sessions) in favor of a man (Trump) who does not appear to embrace a single tenet of Christianity.

the leaders of evangelical Christianity are Republican political lobbyists who use religiosity as a smokescreen.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:01:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:02:01am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

I can’t see the Russian masses yearning for Western democracy but I can see them if Vlad’s games start hurting their bottom line turning on him with great anger.

Do not underestimate their ability to endure suffering if they can be convinced it is for a greater cause. Putin has Mother Russia and Orthodoxy on his side.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:05:01am

re: #313 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do not underestimate their ability to endure suffering if they can be convinced it is for a greater cause. Putin has Mother Russia and Orthodoxy on his side.

I haven’t but nothing lasts forever. I’m hoping Vlad finds that out the hard way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:06:32am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Considering they did turn on the Czar, never say nrver. They’re not going to be democratic in orientation but if Putin’s actions result in widespread hunger and joblessness, don’t underestimate them.

They are the only nation in the world that tops the British for putting up with deprivations and suffering in the name of King/Tsar and country.

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piratedan  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:07:33am

re: #180 MsJ

well why don’t we put her in charge for the next two years and we can compare and contrast them… :-)

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Jenner7  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:10:57am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:11:00am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are the only nation in the world that tops the British for putting up with deprivations and suffering in the name of King/Tsar and country.

Again I know. I’m just saying that if Vlad’s hobby of fucking around in other nations starts to get to them personally, Vlad may find himself fearing the Romanov or Stuart ending.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:11:51am

re: #312 JordanRules

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That’s all this is. It makes Bush using fear of SSM look like child’s play.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:14:49am

National Enquirer Had Decades of Dirt on Trump (NYT via politcalwire.com)

trump and cohen devised a plan to buy up all the dirt that the National Enquirer had. looks like they didnt actually go through with the plan

my point is the headline above

the Natl Enq buying and NOT printing is not biased, skewed or fake news, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:15:33am

re: #320 dangerman

the Natl Enq buying and NOT printing is not biased, skewed or fake news, right?

It is Free Enterprise.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:17:03am

Daniel Dale deserves a Pulitzer…and a long vacation (but not while the yam is in office—sorry, Daniel)…and a magnum of champagne…and anything else his heart desires. It has to be exhausting, not to mention soul-sucking, to keep up with the lies.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:18:59am

re: #322 BeachDem

Daniel Dale deserves a Pulitzer…and a long vacation (but not while the yam is in office—sorry, Daniel)…and a magnum of champagne…and anything else his heart desires. It has to be exhausting, not to mention soul-sucking, to keep up with the lies.

Throwing spaghetti against the wall, and convincing his supporters that the wall is really a plate.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:19:15am
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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:20:42am

re: #320 dangerman

National Enquirer Had Decades of Dirt on Trump (NYT via politcalwire.com)

trump and cohen devised a plan to buy up all the dirt that the National Enquirer had. looks like they didnt actually go through with the plan

my point is the headline above

the Natl Enq buying and NOT printing is not biased, skewed or fake news, right?

Will it all come out? All the stories? All the lies and debauchery?

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:20:56am

re: #321 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is Free Enterprise.

of course it is - like any other news outlet

since the effect of all that supression was in trump’s favor he couldnt possibly see that as bias

all cohen / trump were trying to do was ensure it continued

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:22:29am

re: #323 Belafon

Throwing spaghetti shit against the wall, and convincing his supporters that the wall is really a plate and what’s on it is food.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:26:21am

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:28:03am

re: #305 dangerman

on DeSantis:

If he’s managed to make it to however old he is without learning that you never, ever use words like “monkey” or “ape” or “chimpanzee” when discussing a black person, then he really has no business being governor of the nation’s third-largest state.

likelier, and even worse is he knew exactly what he was doing, and he was stirring up the racist elements of the GOP base

Jonathan Capehart on Lawrence O’Donnel’s show said as a Black man he heard three dog whistles in DeSantis’ comments.

#1 was “articulate” meaning surprised Gillum speaks so well for a Black guy.

#2 was “he performed well” meaning Blacks are good for a show.

#3 of course was using “monkeying.”

Pretty thorough look by a Black man. I admit, I didn’t catch the “perform well” and I have heard about “articulate” before.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:32:12am

re: #329 ObserverArt

The “articulate” moved the needle on my racism detector before even getting to the “monkey it up”, which pegged the needle.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:33:10am
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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:33:45am

re: #329 ObserverArt

I admit, I didn’t catch the “perform well” and I have heard about “articulate” before.

That was their go-to backhanded compliment for Obama.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:35:24am

my thought today on why, as a remedy, impeachment of a president is not practical

It takes a long time to build a case. - this one’s been going on almost since the inauguration

Separate and either parallel to or after the investigation, it also takes time to build the necessary political will in the house and / or senate

The window is 4 years, not eight. he has to win reelection. 8 is not guaranteed

by the time the case comes up, if at all, it’s likely in the third year, or so.

How much ‘damage’ has been done by then. policies, regulations, appointments, foreign policy (some of which is likely irreversible — judges)

Watergate took 2 years from break in to resignation

and like watergate, russiagate is also about influencing the presidential election
so in that situation — a president “illegally” taking the office - even with a not quite complicit congress, he could run roughshod and game the system for 2-3 years

sure there are still other reasons to impeach
standing for rule of law
setting precedent so it doesnt happen again
and all that

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:35:34am

re: #332 makeitstop

That was their go-to backhanded compliment for Obama.

“one who would pass a literacy test”

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:36:37am

re: #332 makeitstop

That was their go-to backhanded compliment for Obama.

And yet it could easily be said that Trump isn’t articulate, his performance in anything is terrible and he certainly is comparable to an animal…an ass.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:37:49am

re: #329 ObserverArt

Jonathan Capehart on Lawrence O’Donnel’s show said as a Black man he heard three dog whistles in DeSantis’ comments.

#1 was “articulate” meaning surprised Gillum speaks so well for a Black guy.

#2 was “he performed well” meaning Blacks are good for a show.

#3 of course was using “monkeying.”

Pretty thorough look by a Black man. I admit, I didn’t catch the “perform well” and I have heard about “articulate” before.

i read that this morning too.
i’d only heard part of the quote yesterday
there’s no other interpretation for this kind of thing
anyone who tries to justify it is just lying
“articluate” by itself is always a tip off

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:38:42am

re: #332 makeitstop

That was their go-to backhanded compliment for Obama.

h/t to whoever posted that chris rock clip yesterday about colin powell

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:40:12am

re: #331 JordanRules

Roger Waters, you in danger girl!

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:42:34am

re: #335 ObserverArt

And yet it could easily be said that Trump isn’t articulate, his performance in anything is terrible and he certainly is comparable to an animal…an ass.

he is both an ivy league coastal elite
and ‘genuine’ (doncha know)

though the way he’s been talking about sessions - as quoted/tweeted above (accent, marbles, law degree), he apparently hates average people and his actual supporters

i guess they just dont get that - or dont care

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:43:29am

re: #338 Flying Squirrel Girl

Roger Waters, you in danger girl!

Ha, ha!!!

One of my favorite Trump era tweets.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:43:36am

re: #338 Flying Squirrel Girl

Roger Waters, you in danger girl!

giggled out loud

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:44:19am
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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:47:50am

Where’s Joe Bacon?

Is this you, Joe?

allrecipes.com

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:51:21am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:51:27am
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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:52:14am

SODA (Stop Offshore Drilling in the Atlantic) is pretty hyped by Tim Scott’s statement, but I think it’s weaselly at best (basically saying his constituents don’t know what they’re talking about but, sigh, they’re his constituents, so what’s a guy to do?)

“My position is as public as it gets on offshore drilling. Offshore gas is a real possibility. (But) I have said and continue to say that as long as the coast of South Carolina is universally solidified in opposition … I will stand with them, although I believe there is some actual benefit to going offshore and seeing what’s possible. Fortunately or unfortunately, my constituents disagree with me. As a public servant, this is not a legal, ethical or moral issue. I have sided with my constituents.”

I guess it’s better than nothing…

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:52:29am

re: #342 JordanRules

68 years old. He should have stuck with shouting at clouds. He’ll die in prison or as poor as a churchmouse.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:52:47am

re: #294 ObserverArt

I’d still like to know if Snowden in Russia had anything at all to do with the Russian hacking. Just seems awfully convenient to have a known government systems guy that available.

Yeah, if any old investigation needs reopened (rather than Hill’s Butter Email) it is that one. Wonder if that hasn’t been looked into already?

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:57:15am

re: #345 Stanley Sea

I’m a third generation American (both parents born in America, half of grandparents born here, half of great-grandparents born here), of the correct color, I mean my family came from the correct counties, and I couldn’t get this information.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:58:00am

re: #347 MsJ

68 years old. He should have stuck with shouting at clouds. He’ll die in prison or as poor as a churchmouse.

He will continue to make a living making appearances and ghostwriting books and articles. All those associated with him will be ruined. In other words, business as usual for Donald Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:58:32am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:59:33am

I wanna ask a question that may be worth a post of it’s own, but I’m to damn lazy. I’m sure it’s been hashed here a time or two as well. But I’ll ask it anyway.

I was born in 1954 and will be 64 in Dec. So those of us with a bit of gristle understand about growing up in a very different and wondrous (for me it was white boy w/moderate privilege) time. 4th of July , Main St. Wheaton, IL…… Late 60’s/70’s in Phoenix AZ. and into the service. 80’s were foggy as was I but there was a change.

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:00:40am

re: #345 Stanley Sea

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I cannot. This is so awful.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:01:29am

You know what great thing is happening today?

Barack Obama is putting the finishing touches on a eulogy for the ages.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:01:58am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

Around Reagan we started seeing a decline in unions and in the quality of public education. We stopped teaching Civics, we taught science but not the Scientific Method, likewise with history.

And nobody is teaching our kids about modern media and how to use them, when to trust them. Russia was quick to take advantage of that.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:02:43am
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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:05:05am

re: #338 Flying Squirrel Girl

Roger Waters, you in danger girl!

I don’t agree with Waters on a lot of things, but damn. He’s got balls.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:05:11am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

I wanna ask a question that may be worth a post of it’s own, but I’m to damn lazy. I’m sure it’s been hashed here a time or two as well. But I’ll ask it anyway.

I was born in 1954 and will be 64 in Dec. So those of us with a bit of gristle understand about growing up in a very different and wondrous (for me it was white boy w/moderate privilege) time. 4th of July , Main St. Wheaton, IL…… Late 60’s/70’s in Phoenix AZ. and into the service. 80’s were foggy as was I but there was a change.

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

Interesting thoughts. I think Reagan is a big part of the genesis that led us to the world of 2018 because I think Reagan was the first nationally successful national R politician to really play off the resentments of Whites about advances in civil rights. Nixon too but I think Reagan was more successful because Reagan unlike Nixon has a consensus more positive legacy. Historians I think wrongly don’t see Reagan as stroking the fires of resentment like they do with Nixon.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:05:29am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

I agree Reagan, followed up by Willie Horton.

I think this is the one area Dubya want an asshole… But he had Fox News and Limbaugh for that, the former which is far worse now and the latter, well, that’s the same hate; always at 110%.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:06:28am

re: #359 MsJ

I agree Reagan, followed up by Willie Horton.

I think this is the one area Dubya want an asshole… But he had Fox News and Limbaugh for that, the former which is far worse now and the latter, well, that’s the same hate; always at 110%.

Immigration Reform was one GW Bush initiative that I supported but even his own party would not back him up on it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:07:35am

I think Reagan is to blame more than Nixon since Nixon’s domestic policies weren’t oligarchical bullshit cloaked around the flag.

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:08:10am

re: #347 MsJ

68 years old. He should have stuck with shouting at clouds. He’ll die in prison or as poor as a churchmouse.

And Trump will continue to not give a fuck.

Remember when he offered to pay legal fees for anyone who beat up protesters? I ‘member.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:08:37am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

I think Reagan is to blame more than Nixon since Nixon’s domestic policies weren’t oligarchical bullshit cloaked around the flag.

His drug policies were.

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Jay C  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:08:49am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

I think it started under Reagan, but things really started to go sideways after 1995 and the election of the Newt Gingrich Congress. Pre-Newt, we could always count on the systems and processes of government to somewhat alleviate the worst impulses of politicians and parties.
However, after ‘95, we had one of the two parties in our two-party system not only throw out the whole notion of negotiation and compromise, but enshrine (and revel in) making those “worst impulses” the entire basis of their political “appeal”. Well, that, and pure power.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:09:11am

re: #351 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

UNLIKELY FRIENDS: Tiger, lion and hyena cubs play with a family of Golden Retriever puppies at a Chinese zoo, after the cubs’ mothers abandoned them

too young to have been “carefully taught”

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:09:12am

re: #350 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He will continue to make a living making appearances and ghostwriting books and articles. All those associated with him will be ruined. In other words, business as usual for Donald Trump.

I think J is talking about the dude who threatened the Globe.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:10:01am

The rise of RW media in the 90’s. Where Limbaugh became an important voice to the conservative rank and file. Not that Buckley was a prize but the rise of Rush and his offspring are a big part of why anti intellectual sentiment sells on the right.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:10:41am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

I cannot. This is so awful.

monsterous

these people are ghouls

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jeffreyw  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:11:43am

re: #356 JordanRules

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Does this pollen make my butt look big?

Flickr

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:12:09am

re: #364 Jay C

I think it started under Reagan, but things really started to go sideways after 1995 and the election of the Newt Gingrich Congress. Pre-Newt, we could always count on the systems and processes of government to somewhat alleviate the worst impulses of politicians and parties.
However, after ‘95, we had one of the two parties in our two-party system not only throw out the whole notion of negotiation and compromise, but enshrine (and revel in) making those “worst impulses” the entire basis of their political “appeal”. Well, that, and pure power.

Yeah Newt. Newt definitely brought down the legislative process.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:12:59am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

I wanna ask a question that may be worth a post of it’s own, but I’m to damn lazy. I’m sure it’s been hashed here a time or two as well. But I’ll ask it anyway.

I was born in 1954 and will be 64 in Dec. So those of us with a bit of gristle understand about growing up in a very different and wondrous (for me it was white boy w/moderate privilege) time. 4th of July , Main St. Wheaton, IL…… Late 60’s/70’s in Phoenix AZ. and into the service. 80’s were foggy as was I but there was a change.

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

i think it’s constant - something like punctuated equilibrium (thoug that’s probably not a good metaphor)

periodic leaps forward in progress and equality
then partial slides backward

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:14:47am

re: #370 HappyWarrior

Yeah Newt. Newt definitely brought down the legislative process.

They really thought that they were going to so dominate the government that they had no need to show anything but contempt for the Democrats, they have never really recovered from that.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:14:57am

re: #356 JordanRules

Boy bee: you look nice

Girl bee: thanks you too

Boy bee: your knees in particular are just outstanding

the 1920s calling on twitter.

how many people are going “huh?”

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:15:21am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

The rise of RW media in the 90’s. Where Limbaugh became an important voice to the conservative rank and file. Not that Buckley was a prize but the rise of Rush and his offspring are a big part of why anti intellectual sentiment sells on the right.

Coordinated effort across rural America. Where there are more electoral college votes than humans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:16:04am

re: #373 dangerman

then 1920s calling on twitter.

how many people are going “huh?”

I thought that joke was the cat’s pajamas…

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:16:24am

re: #364 Jay C

I think it started under Reagan, but things really started to go sideways after 1995 and the election of the Newt Gingrich Congress. Pre-Newt, we could always count on the systems and processes of government to somewhat alleviate the worst impulses of politicians and parties.
However, after ‘95, we had one of the two parties in our two-party system not only throw out the whole notion of negotiation and compromise, but enshrine (and revel in) making those “worst impulses” the entire basis of their political “appeal”. Well, that, and pure power.

deliver chicken dinner here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:17:03am

re: #374 MsJ

Coordinated effort across rural America. Where there are more electoral college votes than humans.

Yep and it made us out to be these monsters out to get them and their Bibles. Of course, this stuff was always at play. McCarthyism after all.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:17:49am

re: #364 Jay C

Good points all. Jay, those years were definitely the start of the discourse. I was also thinking on the economics as well wit the advent of “Trickle-down”.

Ya know we had 8 yrs of “We want our Country Back”. And besides the enviromental rollbacks for dirty air and water. What ….. Gotamn I’m confused!! And I’m a bit angry as well. Sorry.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:18:16am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

Rush’s followers proudly embrace the anti-intellectual sentiment while he tells them that THEY are really the smart ones and they lap it up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:19:44am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:20:15am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought that joke was the cat’s pajamas…

cat’s pajamas
cat’s whiskers
bees knees

1920 speak for ‘neato’

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:20:39am

I really don’t think there’s any one event but a series of events that leads us to today. Perhaps the Genesis is ultimately in the 30’s with the fear and lies spread about the New Deal by the old right. I don’t know.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:20:50am

re: #379 Flying Squirrel Girl

Rush’s followers proudly embrace the anti-intellectual sentiment while he tells them that THEY are really the smart ones and they lap it up.

Yep.

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:21:17am

After all the groundwork laid by politicians like Reagan, Gingrich and the rest, the nail in the coffin was the Communications Act of 1996. That kicked open the door for corporations like Fox, Clear Channel and Sinclair Broadcasting to start aggressively propagandizing the American people.

It’s the one thing I will never, ever forgive Bill Clinton for.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:21:38am

Thread!?

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:23:47am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:24:47am

I anticipate some anti-NATO rage tweets

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:26:19am

re: #380 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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i thought this was amusing “after the discovery of a tiny leak last night traced to the Russian segment”

while the US is spinning out of control,

there’s an effing orbiting space station
we’ve sent probes to planets and other heavenly bodies
they send back information and pictures
hundreds of millions of miles
a couple (?) have left the solar system

humans are something
a bunch: awesome
a basket: loathesome

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:26:43am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I anticipate some anti-NATO rage tweets

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McCain was far more hawkish than I will ever be but he did appreciate our allies.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:27:37am

re: #379 Flying Squirrel Girl

Rush’s followers proudly embrace the anti-intellectual sentiment while he tells them that THEY are really the smart ones and they lap it up.

while, as i said above, trump actually hates them

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:28:51am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yeah…….. This will leave a nasty taste..

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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:28:56am

Typo in the very first word (morale), although morals in the White House aren’t doing very well, either.

Also - womp womp. Fucking quit if you hate it that much, then go public with what you know.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:29:10am

re: #8 wrenchwench

Tony Joe has been working on that for a few years. He’s trimmed back the sideburns lately.

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Another one of our alumni.

Right when his career was taking off, Tony let a family member take over the management of his career.

Was not a good move.

What a voice.

Even just talking, Tony’s voice would cut thru a room full of music folk conversation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:29:17am

re: #384 makeitstop

After all the groundwork laid by politicians like Reagan, Gingrich and the rest, the nail in the coffin was the Communications Act of 1996. That kicked open the door for corporations like Fox, Clear Channel and Sinclair Broadcasting to start aggressively propagandizing the American people.

It’s the one thing I will never, ever forgive Bill Clinton for.

And since we did not teach our children about media and how they work, we really made a mess of things

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:29:53am
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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:30:18am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:31:41am

re: #386 gocart mozart

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gene simmons and alice cooper - obvious where they were going

steven tyler already had the lips

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:33:24am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:33:30am

re: #387 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I anticipate some anti-NATO rage tweets

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“nato should have been disbanded years ago. it’s got no purpose anymore”

and yet they just built a $1.4B headquarters

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:36:06am

Trump Trackdown

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:36:08am

re: #392 makeitstop

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Typo in the very first word (morale), although morals in the White House aren’t doing very well, either.

Also - womp womp. Fucking quit if you hate it that much, then go public with what you know.

get a new career (mine coal)
move
do like you’ve been telling us to do

opportunities everywhere!
no shortage of jobs!
full employment!
companies are fighting over applicants

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:36:36am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:37:44am

Is is me or is there a fuzzy zone developing between Dems and Bros? Something funny going on there.

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Jenner7  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:38:26am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:39:31am

re: #404 Jenner7

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Good, I hope he’s miserable knowing that there’s an elected official more loved, liked, & respected than he will ever be.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:43:09am

I haven’t had a chance to read through the whole page, but I wanted to add my suspicions about the story of passport revocations. I think it’s a voter suppression policy. If people think the govt will revoke their passports and citizenship, they may be afraid to show up at the voting booth.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:43:12am

re: #241 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the continuing to swelter NYC metro area.

The heat must be getting to Trump with the nonstop tweets today.

It’s all he can do is rage into the internets to rile up his bigot brigade base. It’s what he’s good at doing.

i didnt see the bold part till i saw it pointed out on CNN

The Rigged Russia Witch Hunt did not come into play, even a little bit, with respect to my decision on Don McGahn!

it was neither voluntary nor mutual

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:44:07am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

I really don’t think there’s any one event but a series of events that leads us to today. Perhaps the Genesis is ultimately in the 30’s with the fear and lies spread about the New Deal by the old right. I don’t know.

I think the 1930’s version was thoroughly discredited by WWII and the Nazi’s. All the adult men of that generation saw with their own eyes, and everybody else saw photos and film, what the camps and survivors looked like, the Nuremberg trials, etc.

Then in what we like to call the Civil Rights Era (more accurately known as the early television era, because Civil Rights activists had been pushing these same issues for generations already), non-Southern Americans saw on their nightly news what had previously been abstractions and theoretical ideas they’d until then been able to choose not to know about — and it looked way too Nazi for anyone’s comfort.

The Right wing had to start all over really during the Vietnam era and shortly after, and build from there. It took eliminating the draft to separate middle-class and poor whites from all the other liberal interest groups.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:45:01am

re: #406 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I haven’t had a chance to read through the whole page, but I wanted to add my suspicions about the story of passport revocations. I think it’s a voter suppression policy. If people think the govt will revoke their passports and citizenship, they may be afraid to show up at the voting booth.

and / or not be allowed to vote while their ‘case’ is pending

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:45:59am

re: #384 makeitstop

After all the groundwork laid by politicians like Reagan, Gingrich and the rest, the nail in the coffin was the Communications Act of 1996. That kicked open the door for corporations like Fox, Clear Channel and Sinclair Broadcasting to start aggressively propagandizing the American people.

It’s the one thing I will never, ever forgive Bill Clinton for.

Just that one thing? Not for repealing Glass-Steagel, or welfare “reform”, or mass incarceration from the crime bill and mandatory minimums?

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:46:05am

re: #385 gocart mozart

Thread!?

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Interesting. Thoughts?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:46:34am

re: #408 sagehen

I think the 1930’s version was thoroughly discredited by WWII and the Nazi’s. All the adult men of that generation saw with their own eyes, and everybody else saw photos and film, what the camps and survivors looked like, the Nuremberg trials, etc.

Then in what we like to call the Civil Rights Era (more accurately known as the early television era, because Civil Rights activists had been pushing these same issues for generations already), non-Southern Americans saw on their nightly news what had previously been abstractions and theoretical ideas they’d until then been able to choose not to know about — and it looked way too Nazi for anyone’s comfort.

The Right wing had to start all over really during the Vietnam era and shortly after, and build from there. It took eliminating the draft to separate middle-class and poor whites from all the other liberal interest groups.

Very true.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:46:45am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

I wanna ask a question that may be worth a post of it’s own, but I’m to damn lazy. I’m sure it’s been hashed here a time or two as well. But I’ll ask it anyway.

I was born in 1954 and will be 64 in Dec. So those of us with a bit of gristle understand about growing up in a very different and wondrous (for me it was white boy w/moderate privilege) time. 4th of July , Main St. Wheaton, IL…… Late 60’s/70’s in Phoenix AZ. and into the service. 80’s were foggy as was I but there was a change.

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

I’m going with two inflection points: Reagan and Newt. Reagan separated whites from the New Deal. Newt separated Republicans and Democrats. He started the trend where you couldn’t be a Republican who listened to Democrats.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:47:28am

im on a tear today, so w/r/t trump and google yesterday:

that trump lied about it all (the algorithms and the sotu)
is beside the point

google has no obligation of any kind to be evenhanded

i feel better now

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:49:23am

re: #413 Belafon

Perfect summery. The sick thing is that he’s proud of that.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:51:44am
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Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:53:28am

Amazon blows right through $2000/share.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:53:38am

re: #410 sagehen

Just that one thing? Not for repealing Glass-Steagel, or welfare “reform”, or mass incarceration from the crime bill and mandatory minimums?

Glass-Steagall repeal really hit us when they further deregulated the financial industry.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:53:39am
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makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:53:54am

re: #410 sagehen

Just that one thing? Not for repealing Glass-Steagel, or welfare “reform”, or mass incarceration from the crime bill and mandatory minimums?

All bad, yes. All worthy of scorn.

But the Communications Act did the most to put us in our current position, IMO.

As bad as the rest of it was, none of them are beaming into our homes 24/7.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:54:29am

re: #413 Belafon

I’m going with two inflection points: Reagan and Newt. Reagan separated whites from the New Deal. Newt separated Republicans and Democrats. He started the trend where you couldn’t be a Republican who listened to Democrats.

An early inflection point was 1964, when, even though he lost the presidential election in a landslide, Barry Goldwater showed that Republicans could win in Dixie by opposing civil rights, which lead to Nixon’s “Southern Strategy.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:54:37am

re: #420 makeitstop

All bad, yes. All worthy of scorn.

But the Communications Act did the most to put us in our current position, IMO.

As bad as the rest of it was, none of them are beaming into our homes 24/7.

Others were busy repossessing our homes…

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:55:46am

re: #392 makeitstop

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:56:38am

re: #392 makeitstop

White House staffer: “Moral in the White House has never been lower. It’s like a revolving door here, except most aides who leave aren’t being replaced. I’m sick of all the chaos & really concerned about how this will affect my career & my family. I didn’t sign on for this shit.”

Moral fits, too.

And, sorry, this is exactly what you signed up for. That you didn’t realize it makes you a moron and unworthy of a future anything other than asking someone if they want fries with their order.

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can't think of a decent username  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:57:51am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

I wanna ask a question that may be worth a post of it’s own, but I’m to damn lazy. I’m sure it’s been hashed here a time or two as well. But I’ll ask it anyway.

I was born in 1954 and will be 64 in Dec. So those of us with a bit of gristle understand about growing up in a very different and wondrous (for me it was white boy w/moderate privilege) time. 4th of July , Main St. Wheaton, IL…… Late 60’s/70’s in Phoenix AZ. and into the service. 80’s were foggy as was I but there was a change.

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

I’ve always heard that Roger Ailes decided after Goldwater was defeated that he needed to build a pro-conservative media infrastructure to help rig future elections in favor of Republicans. Ultimately, though the pace picked up with Reagan, the machine was in operation long before that.

I’ve long felt that if someone gave me a time machine, the first person I’d strangle in their crib would be Ailes; the second would be Ayn Rand.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:58:51am

re: #352 Dave In Austin

I wanna ask a question that may be worth a post of it’s own, but I’m to damn lazy. I’m sure it’s been hashed here a time or two as well. But I’ll ask it anyway.

I was born in 1954 and will be 64 in Dec. So those of us with a bit of gristle understand about growing up in a very different and wondrous (for me it was white boy w/moderate privilege) time. 4th of July , Main St. Wheaton, IL…… Late 60’s/70’s in Phoenix AZ. and into the service. 80’s were foggy as was I but there was a change.

When did shit change from what it was to where we are now? And it wasn’t Obama.

I say Reagan. Just because I do. Thoughts?

I think that time period was a bit of a change in our overall thinking.

The 80s were of course “yuppie” times…when former hippies decided to go against all that love piece and sharing and become conspicuous consumers.

Breaking up unions was another signal of not working together and every man for himself.

Yeah, it sort of does seem the 80s changed America from thinking as Americans as a group to American as individuals so screw you.

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Skip Intro  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:58:55am

re: #392 makeitstop

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Typo in the very first word (morale), although morals in the White House aren’t doing very well, either.

Also - womp womp. Fucking quit if you hate it that much, then go public with what you know.

Since these people never actually leave I have to think this crap is put out by Trump people. Why? To make the media looks stupid, perhaps? Who knows?

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:00:30am

re: #406 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I haven’t had a chance to read through the whole page, but I wanted to add my suspicions about the story of passport revocations. I think it’s a voter suppression policy. If people think the govt will revoke their passports and citizenship, they may be afraid to show up at the voting booth.

That was my first thought, too.

They can’t revoke citizenship. But they can make people not want or be afraid to vote.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:01:07am

re: #392 makeitstop

Yes, you did sign up for that mess. Trump told you who he was long before he was elected and yet you chose to work for his administration. What did you expect? You have just wasted your time because quite a few of us won’t hire anyone with anything affiliated to Trump on his or her resume.

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can't think of a decent username  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:01:30am

re: #386 gocart mozart

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I think I went to high school with a dozen people who looked like Axl Rose, James Hetfield, and Kirk Hammett. The teachers hated ‘em, and usually, they were all much better and cooler people than the kids on the student council and attending the college prep classes.

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mmmirele  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:02:00am

Sam Young, a Houston businessman and former Mormon bishop, has been leading a protest against one-on-one interviews by bishops of children and youth. In some cases, these interviews have included sexually explicit questions (such as, “do you masturbate? have you had sexual intercourse? what position? did you enjoy it?” and I wish I was lying but you can see reports here at protectldschildren.org).

Yesterday Sam was given a letter inviting him to his excommunication on September 9. The reasons for the excommunication is that a) he has encouraged people to vote against church leadership and he has b) encouraged more than one public action against the church. That would be the march he had in late March, and then the 23 day fast across from Temple Square in Salt Lake City to try and get the leadership to change their minds about these interviews.

Here’s a story from the Salt Lake Tribune: sltrib.com

I’d just note this is the same organization whose newish leader, Russell M. Nelson, made a big deal two weeks ago about how the name of the church was not Mormon church or LDS church, but “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints” on first mention, and “The Church” or “The Church of Jesus Christ” in subsequent mentions. Nelson said he was impressed by “The Lord” to put great emphasis on this. But not on asking kids sexually explicit questions in one on one interviews???!?!?!!?

I personally hope this turns into a Streisand Effect for the church formerly known as Mormon.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:02:11am

LOL so frantic

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lizardofid (Novitiate of the Lizardinati)  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:04:05am

re: #413 Belafon

I’m going with two inflection points: Reagan and Newt. Reagan separated whites from the New Deal. Newt separated Republicans and Democrats. He started the trend where you couldn’t be a Republican who listened to Democrats.

I feel those inflection points also. I was in my early 40’s when Newt became speaker.

I can still remember Drudge and the blue dress. I had no idea what a harbinger of ill it represented.

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:05:51am

re: #425 can’t think of a decent username

I’ve always heard that Roger Ailes decided after Goldwater was defeated that he needed to build a pro-conservative media infrastructure to help rig future elections in favor of Republicans. Ultimately, though the pace picked up with Reagan, the machine was in operation long before that.

I’ve long felt that if someone gave me a time machine, the first person I’d strangle in their crib would be Ailes; the second would be Ayn Rand.

I’d include Murdoch.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:08:21am

Oh, okay then.
*spit*

Go beyond your rulebook assholes!

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:14:40am
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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:14:48am
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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:15:32am

I think when looking at what changed in America it is easy to blame politicians.

But remember we elect the politicians. They are put there by the citizens. If we don’t like what they do we vote them out.

So, since the 50s, all the politicians we want to use as changing points got away with what they did because the citizens allowed them and didn’t stop them.

The collective “we” are the problem. We are doing this to ourselves.

Why?

Well, Wendell may be closest to it because he mentioned civics/history teaching. That may be why so many people are disconnected from politics. They do not understand the actual basis of democracy.

Add greed in it, and all working together starts to go away. We (the collective) have not helped our democracy because we do not respect it.

Use it or lose it.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:15:52am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:17:55am

re: #428 MsJ

That was my first thought, too.

They can’t revoke citizenship. But they can make people not want or be afraid to vote.

they can and they already are
this is just one story Link
yes, it is wrt naturalized citizens

in the current situation, theyre gonna try and claim if you cant prove it, then even though you were a baby, you got it illegally

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:17:56am

re: #343 MsJ

Where’s Joe Bacon?

Is this you, Joe?

allrecipes.com

I confess.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:18:01am

re: #437 JordanRules

We need to point out to people that Trump is reinstating Eisenhower’s Operation Wetback.

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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:20:47am

re: #442 Belafon

Trump is a goddamned white nationalist, whose policies are a throwback to the 1850s.

He’s out to gut civil and voting rights for nonwhites. Minorities are being screwed with every move this admin makes.

Women are also getting screwed, as witnessed by DeVos’ latest move to give sex predators yet another edge in harassment/abuse cases in education settings.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:20:51am

re: #430 can’t think of a decent username

I think I went to high school with a dozen people who looked like Axl Rose, James Hetfield, and Kirk Hammett. The teachers hated ‘em, and usually, they were all much better and cooler people than the kids on the student council and attending the college prep classes.

national lampoon did a parody 1964 high school yearbook

first published in 1973

they nailed every kid from every high school

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MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:21:04am

re: #441 Joe Bacon 🌹

I confess.

Why you are most beloved.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:21:40am

In response to Trump:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:23:34am

“CNN is being torn apart from within based on their being caught in a major lie and refusing to admit the mistake. Sloppy @carlbernstein, a man who lives in the past and thinks like a degenerate fool, making up story after story, is being laughed at all over the country!”

((carl bernstein))

degenerate

got it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:23:38am

re: #439 JordanRules

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wait…
“national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare”

wth happened to this “greatest economy ever” and record stock market highs he keeps prattling on about?

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:25:38am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait…
“national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare”

wth happened to this “greatest economy ever” and record stock market highs he keeps prattling on about?

cough cough tarriffs
cough cough tarriff subsidy
cough cough tax cuts

cough cough - someone’s gotta pay for it

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:25:50am

re: #445 MsJ

After the bacon is about 3/4 of the way to crispy, you drain some of the grease off and add 1/2 a shot of bourbon mixed with 1/4 cup of brown sugar and a couple of tablespoons of water. Pour over the bacon and finish cooking. You’re welcome.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:25:59am

re: #448 Backwoods_Sleuth

wait…
“national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare”

wth happened to this “greatest economy ever” and record stock market highs he keeps prattling on about?

The whole country gets whiplash every day. A car wreck ever day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:26:32am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:26:48am

re: #406 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I haven’t had a chance to read through the whole page, but I wanted to add my suspicions about the story of passport revocations. I think it’s a voter suppression policy. If people think the govt will revoke their passports and citizenship, they may be afraid to show up at the voting booth.

This is awful, but the number of people delivered by midwives in S TX isn’t that large. It’s just more low-hanging fruit, I think.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:27:20am
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lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:30:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:33:09am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:35:35am

Lre: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Always without fail the same lame endorsement.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:40:24am

I don’t know, but it’s always good to check the Fox transcripts for the day.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:40:55am

re: #455 lawhawk

One look at the Trump Organization and you realize Trump doesn’t know what a well-qualified workforce is.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:44:45am

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I used to bitch about Trump not working then I realized that he could actually get some of his goals accomplished if he actually worked, tweet away Cheeto!

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:45:00am

Hola! How’s life defending sanity? Just ran across this fun tidbit:

And guess who some of the other mods of that group were? If you said Corey Stewart, Pamela Geller, and Kelli Ward, you’d be right.

The Onion couldn’t have come up with this story. These assholes aren’t even hiding their bigotry anymore.

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Cheechako  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:45:34am

Stolen from FB

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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:46:05am

Biden’s turn starts now

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:47:27am

lol at a wingnut Facebook friend bitching about the McCain coverage. It’s not like she could actually switch away from FoxNews for an hour or so.

Quit covering the McCain funeral and get back to the real news of Hillary breaking some rule or something!!!

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Jenner7  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:47:35am

My crazy Aunt just texted my Mom and said McCain was a traitor and coward who gave info to the enemy.

My Mom is incredibly patient with her, but doesn’t let her get away with anything. She just replied, “I’m sorry you feel that way and that you sold your soul to that son of a bitch in the WH.”

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:49:04am

re: #458 JordanRules

Here’s Betty Cracker’s take (from balloon-juice):
I think it’s related to soon-to-be former White House Counsel McGahn. In the reports about McGahn spending 30 hours talking to the Mueller team, it came out that Trump’s legal team wasn’t aware of the extent of McGahn’s cooperation with Mueller. I’m not a lawyer, but I find it astonishing that Trump’s attorneys weren’t extensively debriefing McGahn after each session with Mueller. But apparently, they weren’t.

So, in the wake of that report, I’m guessing the Trump lawyers belatedly debriefed McGahn and learned that Mueller was especially interested in Trump’s rationale for dispatching Comey as confessed to Holt. Hence the absurd claim from Trump this morning that the video was edited.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:49:37am

re: #437 JordanRules

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Races in Cameron County, Texas:
Hispanic or Latino (89.4%)
White Non-Hispanic Alone (9.3%)
Asian alone (0.7%)
Black Non-Hispanic Alone (0.4%)

2016 election results:
Hillary 65%
The Yam 32%

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:52:14am

re: #461 Lidane

Hola! How’s life defending sanity? Just ran across this fun tidbit:

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And guess who some of the other mods of that group were? If you said Corey Stewart, Pamela Geller, and Kelli Ward, you’d be right.

The Onion couldn’t have come up with this story. These assholes aren’t even hiding their bigotry anymore.

Quite a four some.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:52:15am

This affects both my AF veteran daughter and her husband, who put in 20 years.

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:53:16am

Biden’s eulogy is funny and moving and deeply genuine. Wow.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:54:01am

re: #465 Jenner7

My crazy Aunt just texted my Mom and said McCain was a traitor and coward who gave info to the enemy.

My Mom is incredibly patient with her, but doesn’t let her get away with anything. She just replied, “I’m sorry you feel that way and that you sold your soul to that son of a bitch in the WH.”

It really is sad how many people completely sold out their decency to him. I mean many were messed up before I’m sure but holy shit.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:55:17am

re: #469 jaunte

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This affects both my AF veteran daughter and her husband, who put in 20 years.

Yeah a lot of vets are federal employees. It’s why Republican double talk on the troops and fed employees has always pissed me off.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:55:58am

re: #452 Backwoods_Sleuth

“You going to trace my call? What are you going to do motherfucker? You ain’t going to do shit. I’m going to shoot you in the head later today, at 4 o’clock. Goodbye.”

i love the ‘Goodbye’

i know it’s weird

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:56:05am

Oh, I’m a mess…….

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Jenner7  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:57:41am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:57:56am

re: #465 Jenner7

My crazy Aunt just texted my Mom and said McCain was a traitor and coward who gave info to the enemy.

My Mom is incredibly patient with her, but doesn’t let her get away with anything. She just replied, “I’m sorry you feel that way and that you sold your soul to that son of a bitch in the WH.”

I’m glad we’ve evolved beyond the idea that we should hold POWs accountable for their actions while prisoners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:58:26am

re: #470 Lidane

Biden’s eulogy is funny and moving and deeply genuine. Wow.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:59:41am

re: #475 Jenner7

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Thoughts and prayers….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:59:46am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:01:00am

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Couldn’t be more Biden than that. Biden was always respectful to McCain both when McCain was at the top of the opposing ticket of Biden and Obama and throughout. Both Trump and Palin, McCain’s fellow Republicans could learn some lessons in grace from Joe Biden.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:01:32am

re: #469 jaunte

This affects both my AF veteran daughter and her husband, who put in 20 years.

This is the same thing Republicans do to teachers, relying on their devotion to their job to give the wealthy tax breaks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:01:37am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:01:51am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump is certainly why I don’t apply for federal jobs anymore.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:01:55am
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Jenner7  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:02:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:02:57am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:03:52am

re: #466 Flying Squirrel Girl

Here’s Betty Cracker’s take (from balloon-juice):
I think it’s related to soon-to-be former White House Counsel McGahn. In the reports about McGahn spending 30 hours talking to the Mueller team, it came out that Trump’s legal team wasn’t aware of the extent of McGahn’s cooperation with Mueller. I’m not a lawyer, but I find it astonishing that Trump’s attorneys weren’t extensively debriefing McGahn after each session with Mueller. But apparently, they weren’t.

So, in the wake of that report, I’m guessing the Trump lawyers belatedly debriefed McGahn and learned that Mueller was especially interested in Trump’s rationale for dispatching Comey as confessed to Holt. Hence the absurd claim from Trump this morning that the video was edited.

(ianal)
what a shame that trump wont be able to use ineffective assistance of counsel as a defense

because nothing’s actually happened yet.

right now he decides he needs help with ‘stuff’?
his lawyers, his choice.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:05:08am

re: #465 Jenner7

My crazy Aunt just texted my Mom and said McCain was a traitor and coward who gave info to the enemy.

My Mom is incredibly patient with her, but doesn’t let her get away with anything. She just replied, “I’m sorry you feel that way and that you sold your soul to that son of a bitch in the WH.”

“thanks for your perspective. i understand why you think that way”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:05:13am
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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:05:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:07:23am
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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:07:29am

re: #486 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

One of my neighbors decided to be super neighborly and post a PSA to our Next Door group.
He wanted to warn people about the horrible experience he had at a strip club where he lost his cell phone. Not just any strip club, a super, grimey shady one. As you can imagine, the responses were absolutely hilarious.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:09:30am

re: #492 JordanRules

One of my neighbors decided to be super neighborly and post a PSA to our Next Door group.
He wanted to warn people about the horrible experience he had at a strip club where he lost his cell phone. Not just any strip club, a super, grimey shady one. As you can imagine, the responses were absolutely hilarious.

Sounds like an awesome future “Best of Next Door.”

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:10:01am

re: #490 gocart mozart

That would definitely be good to know. McConnell probably required an NDA to make it happen, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:10:21am
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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:12:24am

my karma just shot past 40k
i must been sleeping

thanks y’all

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:12:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:12:39am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:13:02am

re: #495 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone should start their eulogy with “Things that will never be said at Trump’s funeral.”

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:13:37am
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:15:15am

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

Writing under the letterhead of his consulting firm, Giuliani Partners, the former New York mayor criticized the “excesses” of Romania’s anti-corruption agency

Looks like he’s on the wrong side all over the world.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:16:08am

re: #500 gocart mozart

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ask him for his tax returns

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:17:17am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:17:41am

re: #500 gocart mozart

It’s bullshit. Trump’s tiny hands could never hold up all that weight.
//

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:18:18am
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Lidane  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:18:30am

Absolutely phenomenal. Biden’s eulogy for McCain was a barn burner and one hell of a speech.

I miss that level of empathy and leadership in office.

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ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:22:16am

re: #444 dangerman

national lampoon did a parody 1964 high school yearbook

first published in 1973

they nailed every kid from every high school

I think I still have that around here stored away somewhere.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:23:09am

re: #506 Lidane

Absolutely phenomenal. Biden’s eulogy for McCain was a barn burner and one hell of a speech.

I miss that level of empathy and leadership in office.

I started crying pretty bad at the song Arizona.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:24:13am
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Lidane  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:24:26am

re: #508 Stanley Sea

I started crying pretty bad at the song Arizona.

I had to turn the feed off after Biden. I don’t want to start ugly crying at work.

I can’t help it. Memorials and funerals make me emotional.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:25:02am
512
Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:25:20am

re: #510 Lidane

I had to turn the feed off after Biden. I don’t want to start ugly crying at work.

I can’t help it. Memorials and funerals make me emotional.

Me too. a form of release I guess.

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Lidane  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:27:51am

re: #511 JordanRules

Truly disturbing. We’ve got a fascist government in all but name.

514
MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:27:59am

re: #484 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

(kiss kiss snuggle cuddle kiss laugh kiss kiss cuddle)

I want!!!!

515
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:28:51am

re: #470 Lidane

Biden’s eulogy is funny and moving and deeply genuine. Wow.

Great to see you back on LGF.

516
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:29:08am

re: #512 Stanley Sea

Me too. a form of release I guess.

I’m such a dork, I cry at goofy sentimental commercials and feel-good lessons on sitcoms. I am an absolute mess when it comes to funerals and the like. I have to take lots of deep breaths and stay armed with a full box of tissues.

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:29:37am

re: #503 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

“Mislabeled”

Right

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Teukka  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:31:18am

re: #511 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

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dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:31:18am

re: #505 JordanRules

[Embedded content]
A few items are missing, but readers can see how Yeltsin secretly told Clinton how Putin became his handpicked successor

I thought they had elections there

///

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:31:58am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:32:11am

re: #511 JordanRules

Kind of like the Japanese internment.

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Kragar  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:34:00am
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:34:24am
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Kragar  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:34:28am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:34:46am

OMG, but people on eBay are idiots. I’m looking at this watch that’s up for auction. It’s from the last run of the last railroad-grade pocket watch that Elgin made in the US. It’s not particularly valuable for your average collector, but I want one. Mind you, that run had 22,000 watches in it, so there are plenty of them out there…

Anyway, it was just listed yesterday, so it has most of a week till the auction closes. Two idiots already ran the price up to $143, because they’re idiots.

So what we can deduce here is that s***s put in a bid of $100 yesterday at 3:43 PM. He’s got high bid, which would show up as about $38, because of Amazon’s system.

Then r***0 gets on, and starts bidding up in $3 increments, trying to top s***s’s bid. Takes him 11 bids to get there.

Then two more bidders knock him out, with c***t becoming top bidder with $141, which would show up as about $110. So d***8 starts doing the same stupid thing as r***0 - bidding up in small increments till he tops c***t by a couple bucks.

And this is all wasted time, because I have set a snipe well above that which will only be place 3 seconds before the end. And I’m not the only one, I guarantee it.2-5 bids will come in the last 4 seconds, and unless someone puts in a REALLY HIGH bid before that, one of us will win it.

So, why do idiots do this? Do they think if they outbid this one guy, they’ve won it? FIVE DAYS before it closes? All they do is run up the price, but since I and the other snipers have already determined our maximum and set our snipes, the run up in the price is largely meaningless.

Idiots.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:35:01am
527
Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:35:42am
528
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:35:45am
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:38:47am

re: #520 JordanRules

Yeah, once you’re over the line, how far you are is irrelevant.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:39:27am

re: #529 Belafon

Yeah, once you’re over the line, how far you are is irrelevant.

Hey, if Goebbels was a Nazi, what do you call Hitler?

531
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:39:38am

Sometimes my timeline shows me something right on time.

532
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:41:01am

re: #418 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Glass-Steagall repeal really hit us when they further deregulated the financial industry.

Before Glass-Steagall was repealed, LTCM almost succeeded in bringing down the entire world economy. I am not an expert on financial deregulation but it wouldn’t be surprising if due to technological changes, this Glass-Steagall may have been increasingly outmoded and its repeal may not have had a great impact on financial systems. Perhaps someone here with more expertise can address this?

533
makeitstop  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:41:10am

re: #516 JordanRules

I’m such a dork, I cry at goofy sentimental commercials and feel-good lessons on sitcoms. I am an absolute mess when it comes to funerals and the like. I have to take lots of deep breaths and stay armed with a full box of tissues.

I’m reminded of the best James Stewart quote ever:

‘I cry at a good steak.’

534
dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:41:48am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I thought that joke was the cat’s pajamas…

I completely misunderstood
Two hours later and the bell went off
I just got this
Apologies

535
Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:41:59am

How many tweets is Angry Donnie up to for the day?

536
jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:42:39am

re: #528 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Also racists.”

537
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:42:45am

Unelected, overreaching. FEDERAL judges are once again trampling on our FREEDOM OF RELIGION!!!! THIS MUST END!!!

538
MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:43:27am
539
jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:43:41am

Why should it be necessary to discern fine degrees of separation between racists?

540
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:44:08am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:44:45am

re: #537 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Unelected, overreaching. FEDERAL judges are once again trampling on our FREEDOM OF RELIGION!!!! THIS MUST END!!!

[Embedded content]

Reminds me of a joke a Unitarian once told me:

“How do Unitarian prayers begin? ‘To whom It May Concern…’”

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:46:08am
543
MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:47:26am

re: #525 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t even pay attention to bidding. I snipe the most I will pay and walk away. If I get it, cool. If not, idiots. :-)

544
ObserverArt  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:47:34am

re: #490 gocart mozart

Frances Langum
@bluegal
About that judge deal.

Dems have been stalling the judges all of August, but GOP had the votes. So the deal was to confirm 5 Obama nominees and keep his NLRB appointee as part of the deal.

Be nice if some Democrat in the Senate would scream that.

12:25 PM - Aug 30, 2018

Does this satisfy any of the people that were upset yesterday?

545
Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:48:00am

re: #528 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I can’t even….

546
Lidane  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:49:02am

re: #540 JordanRules

I saw that video earlier. I had to laugh at the cast’s reaction when Harry sang that little bit. Absolutely classic.

547
Varek Raith  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:50:13am

re: #546 Lidane

I saw that video earlier. I had to laugh at the cast’s reaction when Harry sang that little bit. Absolutely classic.

OH HAI!
Long time no see!

548
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:50:42am

Long, good thread you may want to tuck away for later.

549
jaunte  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:51:05am
550
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:52:32am
551
Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:53:32am

re: #542 JordanRules

It’s campy for sure. But when you’ve spent most of your life there. It still gives ya a feel.

552
lawhawk  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:57:33am

re: #540 JordanRules

Hamilton is an extraordinary show. And that song is hilarious (and apt given that Harry is a direct descendant of King George).

553
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:00:49pm
554
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:02:25pm

Ouch

555
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:04:09pm
556
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:05:31pm

I see a long thread growing

557
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:06:14pm
558
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:07:21pm

re: #525 Blind Frog Belly White

Whether I bid early or late, I always put in the highest price I am willing to pay and look away. I don’t check again until the auction is over.

559
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:09:52pm
560
MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:10:59pm

re: #558 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Whether I bid early or late, I always put in the highest price I am willing to pay and look away. I don’t check again until the auction is over.

If you do it through the eBay GUI, it just drives the prices up in real time. Get something like AuctionSniper and use that. The prices stay low and you will likely get what you want if you put in a reasonable price.

I bid what I will most pay and then allow extra cycles (like 2x) for it to increase by like $5 a cycle. I have won almost every bid I created without paying out the nose.

561
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:11:13pm
562
dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:11:53pm

re: #549 jaunte

You can front a band and run for office. You can pierce your nose, be a bartender, a teacher, a stay at home parent; wear a dress or rip your jeans - none of this disqualifies you from advancing the fight for healthcare, education, housing, and justice.

obvious to everyone,

based on the current President Unindicted Co=conspirator, you can do a lot more than those things:

go bankrupt
get sued for discrimination and lose
get sued, and lose
not pay your bills
say pu$$ygate stuff
say nasty and hateful things about vets, women, poc, mexicans, judges, on and on

563
BeachDem  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:14:41pm

re: #520 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

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Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:15:10pm

re: #556 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Encino Man

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:15:48pm
566
dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:18:01pm

re: #564 Stanley Sea

Encino Man

florida man needed a rest

567
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:18:18pm

re: #563 BeachDem

[Embedded content]

People are bringing their good stuff in service to the ratio!

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Kragar  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:19:15pm

re: #564 Stanley Sea

Encino Man

NO WHEEZIN THE JUICE!

569
Jay C  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:19:28pm

re: #565 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

“Critics warn of multimedia ‘hell’”
Heh.
One article that has aged well…

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Dr. Matt  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:19:35pm

re: #555 JordanRules

@DonaldJTrumpJr tells @axios that if a Trump supporter in the tech world created a conservative, Facebook-like social network, he would urge Trump supporters to switch to it axios.com
— Alayna Treene (@alaynatreene) August 30, 2018

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

571
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:20:19pm
572
Stanley Sea  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:23:08pm
573
dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:24:28pm

re: #555 JordanRules

.@DonaldJTrumpJr tells @axios that if a Trump supporter in the tech world created a conservative, Facebook-like social network, he would urge Trump supporters to switch to it

please proceed.

please
and

YouTube

574
Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:25:18pm

re: #500 gocart mozart

Get a hammer.

575
gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:25:23pm

re: #509 jaunte

576
Kragar  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:25:51pm
577
Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:27:16pm

re: #500 gocart mozart

Even better.

Sprinkle breadcrumbs over his hands and let the pigeons do all the work.

Yes, I’m an evil bastard.

578
JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:27:22pm

LOL silly Erick

579
MsJ  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:30:25pm
580
dangerman  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:31:02pm

re: #576 Kragar

Oklahoma shares borders with Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas.

Which borders are the ones Stitt will be tough on?

this should be the equivalent response to any campaign that’s not an actual ‘border’ state. and forget that 100 mile, coastal zone bullshit.

rhode island? delaware? really?

581
Bubblehead II  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:35:22pm

re: #577 Romantic Heretic

Even better.

Sprinkle breadcrumbs over his hands and let the pigeons do all the work.

Yes, I’m an evil bastard.

But first put some olive oil on top of them to keep the crumbs from blowing away.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:47:53pm

re: #560 MsJ

If you do it through the eBay GUI, it just drives the prices up in real time. Get something like AuctionSniper and use that. The prices stay low and you will likely get what you want if you put in a reasonable price.

I bid what I will most pay and then allow extra cycles (like 2x) for it to increase by like $5 a cycle. I have won almost every bid I created without paying out the nose.

I haven’t actually had a problem doing it the old fashioned way (not a big user of ebay).

583
HappyWarrior  Aug 30, 2018 • 12:49:22pm

re: #576 Kragar

[Embedded content]

As I’ve said. It’s teh same lame endorsement for everyone. They love our vets, the escond amendment, and are tough on borders even if they’re not anywhere near international borders.


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