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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 8:58:45pm

Pivot!!!

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:05:09pm
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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:26:06pm
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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:28:04pm

We know how to screenshot Brad.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:46:41pm

NSFW version of Snow White.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:51:44pm

ICYMI, now the government is going after Palestinian refugees.

washingtonpost.com

The Trump administration has decided to cancel all U.S. funding of the United Nations aid program for Palestinian refugees, part of its determination to put its money where its policy is as it seeks a recalculation of U.S. foreign aid spending and prepares its own Israeli-Palestinian peace plan.

In an announcement to be made within the next several weeks, the administration plans to voice its disapproval of the way the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, or UNRWA, spends the funds and to call for a sharp reduction in the number of Palestinians recognized as refugees, dropping it from more than 5 million, including descendants, to fewer than a tenth of that number, or those still alive from when the agency was created seven decades ago, according to officials familiar with the decision.

Any such reduction would effectively eliminate, for most Palestinians, the “right of return” to land contested with Israel. More immediately, many regional foreign policy and security experts, including in Israel, say that slashing UNRWA’s budget, amid a call to “de-register” refu­gees, would worsen an already disastrous humanitarian situation, especially in Gaza, and sharply increase the level of violence.

In addition to contributions to UNRWA, the United States has provided direct, bilateral assistance to the West Bank and Gaza. Last week, the State Department announced that more than $200 million in already appropriated aid for this year would be “redirected” elsewhere. The cuts in funding, along with shifts in policy, including recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, are part of a major reshaping of Middle East policy under President Trump.

Making America safe for white Christian people, I suppose. Fuck everyone else.

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:54:12pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

ICYMI, now the government is going after Palestinian refugees.

washingtonpost.com

Making America safe for white Christian people, I suppose. Fuck everyone else.

Evil.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 9:56:53pm

re: #7 retired cynic

Evil.

It’s just keeps getting worse. I’m ashamed to admit to people I’m an American now. The land of immigrants is becoming the land of xenophobic assholes.

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:00:47pm

re: #8 wheat-dogg

It’s just keeps getting worse. I’m ashamed to admit to people I’m an American now. The land of immigrants is becoming the land of xenophobic assholes.

I can’t take any more tonight. The whiskey is down in the glass, and it didn’t do the job tonight. Heading for bed, and hope a good mystery on my e-reader can grab the mind. :<

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:06:24pm

re: #9 retired cynic

I can’t take any more tonight. The whiskey is down in the glass, and it didn’t do the job tonight. Heading for bed, and hope a good mystery on my e-reader can grab the mind. :<

Something to emulate:

Munchkin Kitten In Very Deep Sleep

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:07:02pm

re: #10 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Something to emulate:

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Looks good!

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:10:59pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:15:21pm

Interesting thread.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:25:00pm

Brasil is having a refugee crisis of its own, as venezolanos stream across the border. If you read through the story, you’ll find a couple of brasileiro Trumpers wishing for a closed border and a wall.

washingtonpost.com

Waves of newcomers are overwhelming Boa Vista, inundating hospitals and sparking a 1,000-percent increase in emergency calls to police. Schools are scrambling to put up bilingual signs for Spanish-speaking students reaching Portuguese-speaking Brazil. Thousands of migrants are living on the streets, willing to work for a third of the wages of Brazilians. Refugee camps have sprung up in the urban core, giving rise to fears of long-term ghettos.

Boa Vista residents “are losing their city to people of a new culture, people they don’t know,” said the mayor, Teresa Surita. “If this continues, we will lose total control of this city.”

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:35:09pm

I see a number of people liked this. But here’s the flip side: stop ignoring all of the elections that have been won, and stop ignoring all of the people doing really hard work to try to win. It only makes it sound as if you think people are just sitting around waiting for the election. There are lots of people doing things for the election, such as Beto traveling all around Texas, the woman allowing his campaign to use her business office as campaign headquarters here in Rockwall, or other Democrats helping the people who defeated them in the primaries.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:35:41pm

re: #6 wheat-dogg

ICYMI, now the government is going after Palestinian refugees.

washingtonpost.com

Making America safe for white Christian people, I suppose. Fuck everyone else.

Shit man, this week:

- The John Mccain pettiness
- The kneecapping of Mcgahn by tweeting he’ll be leaving in the fall
- Denying passports to U.S. citizens
- Cancelling pay raises for Federal workers
- Cutting aid to Palestinian refugees

Trumps philosophy is simple: Fuck everyone but me.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:39:21pm

re: #14 wheat-dogg

Brasil is having a refugee crisis of its own, as venezolanos stream across the border. If you read through the story, you’ll find a couple of brasileiro Trumpers wishing for a closed border and a wall.

washingtonpost.com

I love how they have to tell people they speak Portuguese in Brazil.

“Porty-geese? Wazzat?”

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:40:08pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

The thing is, he goes after every weak spot he sees. If someone is without power, find them and beat them into the dust, just because he can. “He” meaning himself and any others who are bringing him great ideas for hurting the poor.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:43:50pm

NYC ought to rename 5th Avenue to Obama Blvd. just to piss Trump off.

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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:48:05pm
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JordanRules  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:51:20pm
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Single-handed sailor  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:56:27pm

Deadline rush. Don’t cave Canada.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 30, 2018 • 10:58:03pm

Sheesh! I posted a few messages in Spanish on Facebook, now I am being inundated with ads like this one that just popped up on LGF.

It says, “Google is evil and they now own you and your life. Give up!”

(Actually, “If you have been injured as a consequence of a malfunction by a Takata airbag, you may be eligible for compensation.”)

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Cheechako  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:20:55pm

Republicans stuffing the ballot box? Impossible so I am told.

17 registered voters in a single mobile home? New questions raised in East Anchorage legislative race.

Ringed by sunflowers and plywood, one Muldoon mobile home has earned a special distinction in Alaska voter registration records.

This single trailer is listed as the home of at least 17 registered Republican voters, based on applications submitted to the state earlier this year. At another nearby trailer in the same mobile park, absentee ballots were requested in the name of 14 more Republicans.

How so many voters — including some who show no record of recent dividend applications or other Alaska public records — can list a single home as their residence is now a central question in the puzzle over what happened in the Republican primary for House District 15.

Rep. Gabrielle LeDoux is leading in the Aug. 21 primary, with 452 votes to 339 for opponent Aaron Weaver, overcoming an election night deficit after officials counted more than 200 absentee votes earlier this week. But the Division of Elections identified ballot irregularities, saying 26 absentee ballots cast for LeDoux raised residency or legitimacy questions. Results are set to be certified on Saturday.

In this case, the Republicans were trying to knock off one of their own because she caucused with those nasty Democrats.
More at link.

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Cheechako  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:26:51pm

re: #24 Cheechako

Added an update. Reload

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:34:13pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2018 • 11:43:06pm
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SteelPH  Aug 31, 2018 • 12:08:37am
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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2018 • 12:30:14am
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teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2018 • 1:51:43am
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Ace-o-aces  Aug 31, 2018 • 3:14:49am
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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 3:24:22am

Here’s a good summary of why the US dollar is (for now) the world’s reserve currency. Toward the end, Simon raises the question of the Chinese yuan possibly replacing it, as Trump & Co. gradually cut the USA out of global trade.

Why is the DOLLAR the World’s RESERVE CURRENCY? - VisualPolitik EN

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Dave In Austin  Aug 31, 2018 • 3:26:27am

Good morning. Coffee on a dark deck in the country. Local Screech owls are chortling in a nearby tree and all the roosters in the Holler are in mid crow…….
So I hear we’re raiding MEDICAID for Socialism now? And what’s with Dump supporters and purple hair?

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mmmirele  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:00:12am

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:03:08am

re: #34 mmmirele

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:17:10am

Man, Ad hominem seems to be their only fallback baring the Whataboutism of “but Obama/Clinton” in there (yes, the misspelling is deliberate) broken English.

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They can’t even give a BS explanation of why it does turn up on a reverse image search.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:21:01am
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Dave In Austin  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:21:11am

re: #36 Aussie Apocalypse

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:22:04am

re: #33 Dave In Austin

Speaking of owls …

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Dave In Austin  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:24:57am

re: #39 wheat-dogg

Speaking of owls …

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Eastern Screech Owl. That’s what we have here. Gregarious little bird.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:30:26am

re: #38 Dave In Austin

I looked up one of the images on Google’s Reverse Image search, since I’d rather not re-search that pic, I recall that all bar one, the image sources were Twitter plus some guy with a blog, who is on twitter.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:30:29am

This deserves more attention.

That said, I think this might be reversed. I think this was announced yesterday because trump couldn’t stand McCain getting all the attention…being dead and all.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:30:50am

re: #37 MsJ

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Yeah they just have this delusion we’re going to move right as we get older and that’s just not true.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:31:47am

re: #42 MsJ

Yeah they just have this delusion we’re going to move right as we get older and that’s just not true.

yes, when we get older, we tend to get more like what we were to begin with…

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:33:16am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, when we get older, we tend to get more like what we were to begin with…

Every single time I see a Depends (or the like) commercial, I wonder how many days before that becomes my future.

All the old folks commercials and google ads and such…just depresses the hell out of me.

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fern01  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:35:05am

re: #34 mmmirele

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:36:10am

re: #37 MsJ

GOP won’t care until they start voting

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:36:37am

re: #44 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, when we get older, we tend to get more like what we were to begin with…

For me, I think it’s that my and my generation’s world has been much interconnected than past ones have been but as it gets at, older millennials aren’t embracing the right either. Frankly, they think we’re just a bunch of stupid kids wearing Che shirts urging socialism and they don’t get that their version of capitalism is what has soured people on it.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:37:07am

re: #47 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

GOP won’t care until they start voting

Yeah. They do need to vote more for sure.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:38:16am

re: #45 MsJ

Every single time I see a Depends (or the like) commercial, I wonder how many days before that becomes my future.

I’d rather blow my own brains out then live in a nursing home. I hated visiting my grandmother in the home, it seemed to reek of death.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:38:35am

Hmmm….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:38:51am

re: #45 MsJ

Every single time I see a Depends (or the like) commercial, I wonder how many days before that becomes my future.

All the old folks commercials and google ads and such…just depresses the hell out of me.

One major reason I did not stay on in Russia (lived and worked there in 1991-92) was the depressing sight of the old people there trying get by on pensions they had worked hard for all their lives and which had deflated to the equivalent of about $40 per month.

Younger people were able to adapt and find ways to get along, but I felt so sorry for these old folks, I used to buy garden-plot vegetables from grannies at the flea markets that sprung up at all the metro stations and leave my empty bottles out in the landing for them to return for deposit (by the time I went to get the next load, the first load would already be gone).

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:39:02am

re: #47 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

GOP won’t care until they start voting

It doesn’t seem they will care then, either.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:39:51am

re: #51 MsJ

Because Todd is on a Zero-hour contract?

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:42:00am

re: #50 Aussie Apocalypse

I’d rather blow my own brains out then live in a nursing home. I hated visiting my grandmother in the home, it seemed to reek of death.

My husband and I discuss which would be worse…losing the body or losing the mind.

I prefer the latter…you don’t understand the indignity.

My dad was in a nursing home. One woman would beg me to take her home with me. It was the saddest thing. I would have lunch with my dad in their dining room and would listen to the same conversations taking place around me…4-5-6x in a single hour.

I’m with you. I would rather die.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:43:39am

re: #45 MsJ

Every single time I see a Depends (or the like) commercial, I wonder how many days before that becomes my future.

All the old folks commercials and google ads and such…just depresses the hell out of me.

Sometimes I wonder if the ads are not there to create the market for the products, by convincing the viewers that they’re getting old and might as well succumb to the inevitable.

FWIW neither of my parents needed Depends. Dad lived to 76 and Mom to 80. Not every old has a retention problem.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:46:01am

re: #54 Aussie Apocalypse

Because Todd is on a Zero-hour contract?

I wish. We laud these really dumb people as being various experts. Chuck is “the numbers guy” and I am sorry, he’s just above the average American. And worse, he is uninformed, which is the worst part of what Chuck is.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:47:37am

re: #56 wheat-dogg

Sometimes I wonder if the ads are not there to create the market for the products, by convincing the viewers that they’re getting old and might as well succumb to the inevitable.

FWIW neither of my parents needed Depends. Dad lived to 76 and Mom to 80. Not every old has a retention problem.

I don’t know anyone who has needed them. Not my parents (Mom 86 and dad 89 when they passed). Not my MIL who is 86 and more active than I am. No one.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:48:17am

TBH I haven’t seen myself as a socialist in a long time but I don’t see myself necessarily as a capitalist either. I don’t believe that Marx’s observations exclude Smith’s or Vice versa. My problem is with a single track mind that thinks everything great is due to capitalism or that we can only fix modern problems with socialism. Life is too complex to put an ideological name tag on everything.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:51:12am

Sorry I’m rambling a bit this morning. Recovering from a nasty cold and I have a memorial service to attend this afternoon. And I’m honestly wishing it was considerably colder outside for the first time in awhile.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:56:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:57:48am

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

Rep. Stephen Lynch Destroys Republicans for holding 100 hearing into Hillary Clinton’s email server AND Only 2 on Russia’s interference into the 2016 election

but her e-mails!!!11ty

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 4:59:28am

re: #61 Patricia Kayden

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Awesome. From the heart.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:07:55am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:11:06am

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

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I hate the environment Trump and his gang of assholes have caused so much. So many people made to be scared.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:13:24am

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

We’re approaching the kind of pass system that South Africa had during the apartheid years. Even if you had your papers, there was still no guarantee the cops wouldn’t harass for lulz.

OTOH, as grim as the situation seems to be, while I was in the Great Midwest this summer, I did not witness a single harassment of a PoC or a hijabi, though there were such people where I was.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:15:19am

re: #66 wheat-dogg

We’re approaching the kind of pass system that South Africa had during the apartheid years. Even if you had your papers, there was still no guarantee the cops wouldn’t harass for lulz.

OTOH, as grim as the situation seems to be, while I was in the Great Midwest this summer, I did not witness a single harassment of a PoC or a hijabi, though there were such people where I was.

That’s what it feels we’re entering. Apartheid like situation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:16:16am

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

If a US citizen asked me whether they should carry around their US passport, I can no longer in good faith tell them they don’t have to.

Why not introduce SS cards with biometric photos and an indication of citizenship/residence status? That would end a lot of abuse of social services and also lay to rest the voter ID issue.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:21:41am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not introduce SS cards with biometric photos and an indication of citizenship/residence status? That would end a lot of abuse of social services and also lay to rest the voter ID issue.

Republicans don’t actually want either.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:21:50am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not introduce SS cards with biometric photos and an indication of citizenship/residence status? That would end a lot of abuse of social services and also lay to rest the voter ID issue.

Sorry, that makes too much sense. That’s not how America works.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:23:13am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not introduce SS cards with biometric photos and an indication of citizenship/residence status? That would end a lot of abuse of social services and also lay to rest the voter ID issue.

MIGHT AS WELL GET A BARCODE TATTOOED ON OUR FOREHEADS!

LAND OF THE FREE…..LISTEN TO ALEX JONES AND RON PAUL!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:24:15am

re: #68 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not introduce SS cards with biometric photos and an indication of citizenship/residence status? That would end a lot of abuse of social services and also lay to rest the voter ID issue.

Because then about 30% of the population will start screaming MARK OF THE BEAST!!! or some such nonsense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:24:22am

re: #69 MsJ

Republicans don’t actually want either.

and lots of libertarians and sovereign citizens would freak out at big brotherism.

but a solution like that would be cheaper than The Wall and mitigate a lot of immigration issues right on the spot

but yeah, too many interests against any sort of humane or comprehensive immigration reform, just Build the Wall and Round Them Up

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jeffreyw  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:30:19am

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Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:30:34am

Looks like the EU is pondering doing away with switching between Standard Time and Daylight Savings Time.

More than 80 percent of EU citizens wanted to abolish the EU’s switch and favoured keeping the time used in summer for the whole year, Jean-Claude Juncker said on German television, adding he would put the plan to a debate among EU commissioners.

“We will decide that today,” Juncker said. “Millions … believe that summertime should be all the time.”

Any change would still need approval from national governments and European Parliament to become law.

uk.reuters.com

Seems like they’d just to what Russia, Turkey and other countries have done and switch to year-round DST.

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Weaselone  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:39:27am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

Because then about 30% of the population will start screaming MARK OF THE BEAST!!! or some such nonsense.

The Venn diagram of these individuals and those screaming about voter fraud will a circle with a slightly distorted outline.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:39:29am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

Looks like the EU is pondering doing away with switching between Standard Time and Daylight Savings Time.

uk.reuters.com

Seems like they’d just to what Russia, Turkey and other countries have done and switch to year-round DST.

I am all for that, I grew up in Indiana and Arizona, two states that did not change their clocks. I do not know what I hate worse, the hour they steal from us in Springtime when we need it, or the one they give back in the fall, which we inevitably waste…

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:41:11am

I wouldn’t mind if they switched to year-round Summer Time. Get that extra hour in the Winter. Otherwise, it gets dark around 4:30 pm.

Blecch.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:41:33am

re: #50 Aussie Apocalypse

I’d rather blow my own brains out then live in a nursing home. I hated visiting my grandmother in the home, it seemed to reek of death.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:44:13am

re: #50 Aussie Apocalypse

I’d rather blow my own brains out then live in a nursing home. I hated visiting my grandmother in the home, it seemed to reek of death.

I recall seeing a sign in front of a nursing home in Frankfurt “Managed by the Frankfurt Department of Parks and Cemeteries”

I guess this was seen as a place to park people pre-cemetery…

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:44:37am

re: #58 MsJ

I don’t know anyone who has needed them. Not my parents (Mom 86 and dad 89 when they passed). Not my MIL who is 86 and more active than I am. No one.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:48:16am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

Looks like the EU is pondering doing away with switching between Standard Time and Daylight Savings Time.

uk.reuters.com

Seems like they’d just to what Russia, Turkey and other countries have done and switch to year-round DST.

I wish the US would as well.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:49:21am

I side not: re: #79 Big Beautiful Door

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:49:58am

re: #77 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am all for that, I grew up in Indiana and Arizona, two states that did not change their clocks. I do not know what I hate worse, the hour they steal from us in Springtime when we need it, or the one they give back in the fall, which we inevitably waste…

When I worked in Evansville, I never knew what time it was in Indianapolis, because part of the state was on DST, and part of it wasn’t.

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:55:07am

re: #74 jeffreyw

I am your new chipmunk overlord. Kneel before me! And all the food is mine, mine, mine!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:55:51am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

When I worked in Evansville, I never knew what time it was in Indianapolis, because part of the state was on DST, and part of it wasn’t.

The Calumet Region also changed clocks to sync with Chicago.

And in Arizona, the Navajo Reservation, which extends into neighboring states, changes its clock.

But the Hopi Reservation, surrounded by Navajo territory, does not. So driving from Flagstaff, AZ to Gallup, MN could involve up to four time changes…

No wonder Wynona gets forgotten, nobody knows when to pick her up

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:57:29am

FWIW, Trump’s approval/disapproval comes in at 36/60 in new Washington Post/ABC News poll. The 60 percent disapproval is the highest in that poll’s history.

washingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 5:59:02am

re: #87 dirkdigglerjr

FWIW, Trump’s approval/disapproval comes in at 36/60 in new Washington Post/ABC News poll. The 60 percent disapproval is the highest in that poll’s history.

washingtonpost.com

fake news, deep state cabal, liberal media conspiracy, etc…

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:00:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:02:31am

re: #89 Stanley Sea

Suspect in Boston Globe threats says “America was saved” when Donald Trump elected president

this point of view is incredibly widespread among Trump supporters. which is why they see no problem with collusion, it was the Lesser of Two Evils

and don’t recall what sort of chaos awaits us should we try to impeach him…

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:02:31am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

The only issue would be areas at the edge of time zones. In Knoxville, Tennessee - for example - staying with DST would mean the sun doesn’t come up until after 8:30 to 8:45 in December and January.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:03:43am

re: #34 mmmirele

Hope that all goes well for your brother and that they can treat this successfully. We are thinking of you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:06:16am

re: #91 dirkdigglerjr

The only issue would be areas at the edge of time zones. In Knoxville, Tennessee - for example - staying with DST would mean the sun doesn’t come up until after 8:30 to 8:45 in December and January.

It also means that the sun would not be setting by 5pm…

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:07:06am

re: #89 Stanley Sea

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Saved from what, democracy?

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Unshaken Defiance  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:07:08am

re: #91 dirkdigglerjr

Seems to me businesses could shift their schedules seasonally as necessary. Outdoor businesses do this easily enough. Why not others?

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:07:59am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

True enough. But we would also be inundated with people complaining about kids going to school in the dark. As if they don’t here already with 6 and 6:30 bus times.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:08:36am

re: #95 Unshaken Defiance

Seems to me businesses could shift their schedules seasonally as necessary. Outdoor businesses do this easily enough. Why not others?

Exactly. Most offices in AZ switch to summer hours, 7am to 4pm, and construction crews start at 5am and knock off before the heat of the day reaches its peak.

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dirkdigglerjr  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:09:36am

re: #95 Unshaken Defiance

I would relish the opportunity to walk around the neighborhood after work while it was still daylight. Didn’t Nixon keep on DST one year for “energy conservation?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:10:55am

re: #91 dirkdigglerjr

The only issue would be areas at the edge of time zones. In Knoxville, Tennessee - for example - staying with DST would mean the sun doesn’t come up until after 8:30 to 8:45 in December and January.

You can’t win either way. Remember the year Jimmy Carter kept DST all winter to save energy? Then it was dark later in the morning when kids were going to school. Jimmy Carter was murdering children! I’m serious. People screamed their heads off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:11:09am

re: #98 dirkdigglerjr

I would relish the opportunity to walk around the neighborhood after work while it was still daylight. Didn’t Nixon keep on DST one year for “energy conservation?”

I grew totally depressive coming home from work in the dark, I just wanted to collapse on the sofa and do as little as possible.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:17:12am

Greets and saluts from the no longer sweltering NYC metro area (we went from summer to mid-fall overnight, but have no fear, another heat wave is on tap for next week).

Trump’s lunatic economic policies are on full display here.

He touts a strong economy but then cites dire predictions to prevent federal workers from getting a scheduled raise. At same time, he’s touting his massive $1.5 trillion tax cut plan, which adds - $1.5 trillion in debt over 10 years.

The budget cost for the wage hike is a fraction of the $1.5 trillion, but there’s no way Trump’s going to roll back the tax scam. Nope. He’s doubling down by claiming that he can give COLA adjustments to allow even more capital gains to avoid taxation. That’s right folks, all while claiming he can’t give federal workers wage hikes (COLA), he’s claiming that he can give COLA adjustment to allow millionaires like himself an even bigger slice of the pie by adjusting the capital gains threshold without Congressional approval.

They’re actively sabotaging the functioning government when they’re not incompetently running it into the ground.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:18:55am

re: #101 lawhawk

They’re actively sabotaging the functioning government when they’re not incompetently running it into the ground.

and his outrageous tweeting just keeps us distracted from that as it continues all around us

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:20:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:21:17am

re: #101 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the no longer sweltering NYC metro area (we went from summer to mid-fall overnight, but have no fear, another heat wave is on tap for next week).

Trump’s lunatic economic policies are on full display here.

He touts a strong economy but then cites dire predictions to prevent federal workers from getting a scheduled raise. At same time, he’s touting his massive $1.5 trillion tax cut plan, which adds - $1.5 trillion in debt over 10 years.

The budget cost for the wage hike is a fraction of the $1.5 trillion, but there’s no way Trump’s going to roll back the tax scam. Nope. He’s doubling down by claiming that he can give COLA adjustments to allow even more capital gains to avoid taxation. That’s right folks, all while claiming he can’t give federal workers wage hikes (COLA), he’s claiming that he can give COLA adjustment to allow millionaires like himself an even bigger slice of the pie by adjusting the capital gains threshold without Congressional approval.

They’re actively sabotaging the functioning government when they’re not incompetently running it into the ground.

It’s not incompetence — it’s a deliberate policy to prove that government cannot do anything right which is why its functions need to be transferred to private institutions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:22:02am

re: #103 lawhawk

President Trump is canceling a planned pay raise for federal workers, saying the nation’s budget can’t support it

they wanted someone to “run the country like a business”, and to a businessperson, wages are another expense to be minimized wherever possible.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:26:20am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:27:09am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:37:21am

re: #103 lawhawk

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:39:02am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:40:10am

re: #107 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Trump is being very consistent. After all, he said in 2015 that American wages are too high. Of course, that doesn’t apply to the wealthy — there is no income level too high for them. He is contemptuous of working stiffs — and his base loves it.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:41:52am

Just got our travel insurance (medical when we are out of Canada). $285 for $5mm coverage for one year for both of us.

We are ready for Vegas!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:41:58am

re: #107 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The scumbag thinks it’s ok to pay for his weekly golf vacations at his own private properties too. He seems to hate working people.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:45:32am

re: #96 dirkdigglerjr

True enough. But we would also be inundated with people complaining about kids going to school in the dark. As if they don’t here already with 6 and 6:30 bus times.

When my sister lived in Germany, the sun rose at 4:30 in the morning during the summer, and something like 8 or 9 in the winter.

I kind of thing we should split the difference between the DST and standard, but I’m sure that would really confuse some people.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:48:28am

re: #6 wheat-dogg

ICYMI, now the government is going after Palestinian refugees.

washingtonpost.com

Making America safe for white Christian people, I suppose. Fuck everyone else.

Jared is running a Ponzi/protection scheme in the Middle East. The UAE, Saudis and Israel all bought into the scam but the Palestinians don’t have the money so they get fucked up.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:49:01am

re: #51 MsJ

Hmmm….

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:51:10am

re: #115 dangerman

Dumb unsupported speculation

It’s Tuck Choad. What do you expect? Journalism or something?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:51:42am

re: #111 MsJ

Just got our travel insurance (medical when we are out of Canada). $285 for $5mm coverage for one year for both of us.

We are ready for Vegas!

Have fun! And don’t miss out on Fremont Street!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:52:47am

You guys, I think I figured it out:

Trump actually meant to say he only hires “the best people with criminal records”.

//

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BeachDem  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:55:58am

re: #116 MsJ

It’s Tuck Choad. What do you expect? Journalism or something?

Also:

Matthew Miller, who served as the spokesman for the Department of Justice during the Obama administration, said on Friday that there was no reason to believe that special counsel Robert Mueller would go completely silent in the last 60 days before the 2018 midterm elections…

And given how many potentially indictable Trump associates don’t work for the president or any politician right now, Miller argued, there would be no reason that Mueller couldn’t slap them with indictments close to the election.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:56:57am

re: #64 Patricia Kayden

I’m an immigration lawyer.

If a US citizen asked me whether they should carry around their US passport, I can no longer in good faith tell them they don’t have to.

interesting questions wrt those people near the southern border being denied passports and being picked up and detained

it’s for lack of proof …going back to birth…. because they are changing the rules and requesting long lost and obscure documents, possibly no longer obtainable

so first - this sounds like a pretty good equal protection case - different proof standards for different people

second - these people are not the dreamers, who do in fact have a home country. let’s suppose these people are truly born in the usa americans. And they cant prove it to this new level of satisfaction. What country are they going to be deported to? and what would that country have to say about it?

the whole thing is evil

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 6:59:24am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:04:32am

Later. Off to enjoy some late-summer weather.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:06:38am

re: #34 mmmirele

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:07:05am

Interesting, if IMO highly flawed, interpretation of Trump’s federal pay-raise announcement over at dKos . Basically, the diarist posits that Trump’s statements are a YUUUGE charade: that he’s going to come out and loudly freeze the wages, then let himself be “convinced” to reverse the policy by Congressional Republicans so as to make them “look better” for the midterm elections.

This theory has more holes in it than a wheel of Emmenthaler to me, but there we are….

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:10:28am
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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:12:25am

re: #124 Jay C

Interesting, if IMO highly flawed, interpretation of Trump’s federal pay-raise announcement over at dKos . Basically, the diarist posits that Trump’s statements are a YUUUGE charade: that he’s going to come out and loudly freeze the wages, then let himself be “convinced” to reverse the policy by Congressional Republicans so as to make them “look better” for the midterm elections.

This theory has more holes in it than a wheel of Emmenthaler to me, but there we are….

We’re at the stage where there’s a 50% chance that it’s true.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:13:56am

re: #74 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Chip is back!

Looks like a fan of those peanuts.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:14:45am

Bill will be speaking.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:16:33am

His retort? I blew it…

Yeah… I blew it for pointing out that the heartless and spineless GOP has only one thing in mind - to screw everyone but millionaires all while delivering ever more tax cuts for them. It’s all about destroying the safety net.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:18:37am

re: #125 JordanRules

If you’re going to be a cult, folks, Jim Jones is a far better route than Charles Manson.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:20:17am

Trump wants a 9/11 of his very own.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:20:58am

re: #129 lawhawk

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His retort? I blew it…

Yeah… I blew it for pointing out that the heartless and spineless GOP has only one thing in mind - to screw everyone but millionaires all while delivering ever more tax cuts for them. It’s all about destroying the safety net.

To be honest if this is what the right wants to sell us as Capitalism, then maybe Capitalism isn’t so great.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:21:57am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

Trump wants a 9/11 of his very own.

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Even if he got it, he wouldn’t get it because he wouldn’t know how to unify the country.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:22:25am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

Trump wants a 9/11 of his very own.

Las Vegas?

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:22:35am

New indictment this morning, but not from Mueller.

The defendant is W. Samuel Patten.

I’m thinking it’s this guy. And Natasha Bertrand has a longform piece about Patten, whose contacts with none other than Konstantin Kilimnik are highly suspect.

Southpaw thinks this is prelude to a guilty plea.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:22:41am

re: #116 MsJ

It’s Tuck Choad. What do you expect? Journalism or something?

I hate Chuck as much as anyone. I only watch MTP on Sundays to see the guests because that show can pull some big names. Chuck sucks at interviewing them though no doubt.

But if he is warning of something, I’ll watch to see what happens because he usually doesn’t hype stuff. Usually he plays down everything. I was surprised to see that tweet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:23:17am

Well, I’m baking a Key Lime Pie now.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:23:50am

All McCain and Aretha coverage so far today.

I wonder if Trump will keep quiet.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:24:01am

re: #114 The Vicious Babushka

Jared is running a Ponzi/protection scheme in the Middle East. The UAE, Saudis and Israel all bought into the scam but the Palestinians don’t have the money so they get fucked up.

Trump’s “Mideast Policy” seems to maximize profits and minimize international relations and human rights.

BTW, have you seen this T-shirt? I saw it first on Instagram.

teepublic.com

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:25:26am

re: #124 Jay C

Interesting, if IMO highly flawed, interpretation of Trump’s federal pay-raise announcement over at dKos . Basically, the diarist posits that Trump’s statements are a YUUUGE charade: that he’s going to come out and loudly freeze the wages, then let himself be “convinced” to reverse the policy by Congressional Republicans so as to make them “look better” for the midterm elections.

This theory has more holes in it than a wheel of Emmenthaler to me, but there we are….

Would not surprise me. He is all about shows and demonstrations. It’s all he has because he sure as hell can’t govern anything.

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jeffreyw  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:25:45am

re: #127 ObserverArt

Chip is back!

Looks like a fan of those peanuts.

YouTube

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:25:54am

LOL
That’s like the MoE.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:28:33am
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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:29:44am

re: #131 The Vicious Babushka

Trump wants a 9/11 of his very own.

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He’s a damn fool if he believes anything is going to unite this country while he is out there feeding the splits.

Plus, anything like a 9/11 will just show more people how screwed up he is and how the supporters of his will deny the reality of it all anyway.

The dude has left reality some time ago. He’s just flailing.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:31:50am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

I’ll be right over.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:33:45am

re: #144 ObserverArt

He’s a damn fool if he believes anything is going to unite this country while he is out there feeding the splits.

Plus, anything like a 9/11 will just show more people how screwed up he is and how the supporters of his will deny the reality of it all anyway.

The dude has left reality some time ago. He’s just flailing.

He had his chance with Hurricane Maria and Puerto Rico and the USVI, and he blew it. If a terror attack like 9/11 happened, he and his White House would be running around like chickens with their heads cut off, because they can’t do governance at all.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:34:25am

re: #142 JordanRules

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LOL
That’s like the MoE.

Candace is not working.

Hahahahahahaha.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:35:06am

re: #144 ObserverArt

He’s a damn fool if he believes anything is going to unite this country while he is out there feeding the splits.

Plus, anything like a 9/11 will just show more people how screwed up he is and how the supporters of his will deny the reality of it all anyway.

The dude has left reality some time ago. He’s just flailing.

He thinks he can recreate the Bush swing. But, in a sense, Bush was “lucky.” It hadn’t happened on mainland soil since 1812. But Trump won’t get that benefit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:35:20am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Even if he got it, he wouldn’t get it because he wouldn’t know how to unify the country.

it is not about uniting the country, it is about stifling dissent

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:36:18am

re: #146 wheat-dogg

He had his chance with Hurricane Maria and Puerto Rico and the USVI, and he blew it. If a terror attack like 9/11 happened, he and his White House would be running around like chickens with their heads cut off, because they can’t do governance at all.

He’d just nuke somebody at random….

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:37:13am

re: #149 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is not about uniting the country, it is about stifling dissent

Absolutely.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:39:10am

re: #150 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

He’d just nuke somebody at random….

Nambia, or the United Kingdom of Great England, or whatevs.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:40:46am

re: #148 Belafon

He thinks he can recreate the Bush swing. But, in a sense, Bush was “lucky.” It hadn’t happened on mainland soil since 1812. But Trump won’t get that benefit.

Plus, Bush didn’t come to the presidency pre-hated and then spend his first few months in office making even more enemies.

Trump really has no feel for his position at this point. He still thinks in terms of butt saving and he doesn’t understand the majority of the country wants his butt gone.

I am always amazed at how little clue he has about himself. I guess supreme arrogance causes that. Well that and never reading actual media…he only goes for puffery and has no idea of the reality.

And even then he would deny it. He is just such a mess.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:42:14am

I really think Bush for all my faults with him saw he was the President of all Americans. Trump only values his cult and those who kiss his ass.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:43:16am

re: #147 ObserverArt

Candace is not working.

Hahahahahahaha.

Poor thing doesn’t even have good enough access to get secret recordings.

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:43:26am

re: #142 JordanRules

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LOL
That’s like the MoE.

It’s better than GWB after Katrina; he was 2/97 (with a MoE of 3). I remember Melissa Harris-Perry talking about it:

“This raises the interesting possibility that more black Americans disapprove of GWB than there are black Americans. The ghosts of dead black people are coming back to disapprove of him. Unborn black fetuses already disapprove of him. There’s black people with multiple personality disorder, and each of their personalities disapproves of him.”

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:44:40am

re: #154 HappyWarrior

I really think Bush for all my faults with him saw he was the President of all Americans. Trump only values his cult and those who kiss his ass.

Bush saw himself as the 50%+1 president. But he knew that the GOP didn’t make up 50%+1 of the country.

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:45:02am

re: #156 sagehen

It’s better than GWB after Katrina; he was 2/97 (with a MoE of 3). I remember Melissa Harris-Perry talking about it:

“This raises the interesting possibility that more black Americans disapprove of GWB than there are black Americans. The ghosts of dead black people are coming back to disapprove of him. Unborn black fetuses already disapprove of him. There’s black people with multiple personality disorder, and each of their personalities disapproves of him.”

That’s priceless. Missed it at the time.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:45:49am

re: #157 Belafon

Bush saw himself as the 50%+1 president. But he knew that the GOP didn’t make up 50%+1 of the country.

Right which is why I think he wanted the GOP to be more inclusionary when it came to minorities especially Hispanics.

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:50:18am
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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:51:13am
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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:51:16am

re: #156 sagehen

It’s better than GWB after Katrina; he was 2/97 (with a MoE of 3). I remember Melissa Harris-Perry talking about it:

“This raises the interesting possibility that more black Americans disapprove of GWB than there are black Americans. The ghosts of dead black people are coming back to disapprove of him. Unborn black fetuses already disapprove of him. There’s black people with multiple personality disorder, and each of their personalities disapproves of him.”

LMAO!!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:51:22am

re: #160 Stanley Sea

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Talks shit about Canada. Loves Russia.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:53:25am

re: #94 Eventual Carrion

Saved from what, democracy?

Godless communism, under fundamentalist sharia law.//

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:54:17am

re: #153 ObserverArt

Plus, Bush didn’t come to the presidency pre-hated and then spend his first few months in office making even more enemies.

Trump really has no feel for his position at this point. He still thinks in terms of butt saving and he doesn’t understand the majority of the country wants his butt gone.

I am always amazed at how little clue he has about himself. I guess supreme arrogance causes that. Well that and never reading actual media…he only goes for puffery and has no idea of the reality.

And even then he would deny it. He is just such a mess.

I read a recent (yesterday? today?) poll by Gallup (?) that put Trump’s latest approval/disapproval rating at something like 36/60 - the latter being some sort of new record - and the “approval” percentage for Trump’s impeachment at 49%.
So basically half of all Americans polled would be OK with the Orange Anus getting the boot?
TBH, I have to wonder if a “9/11-style event” - especially if it were shown to have some “preventable” aspect/security flaw involved - wouldn’t be the final straw in pushing the Trump Administration into liquidation, rather being its salvation….?

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:54:47am

re: #160 Stanley Sea

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Trump made the remarks in an Oval Office interview with Bloomberg. He deemed them off the record, and Bloomberg accepted his request not to reveal them.

But the Star is not bound by any promises Bloomberg made to Trump.

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White House deputy press secretary Lindsay Walters said, “If this was said, it was said in an off the record capacity. I understand you guys have obtained it; I’m not sure where you’ve obtained it from.” She said she was looking into “the authenticity of what was said,” but she added that there are “sensitivities” to off-record comments, and she suggested the White House could “work with” the Star if we agreed not to publish.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:54:53am

The original steampunk:
Before Tom Swift or Johnny Quest, there was Frank Reade and, as the series aged, Frank Reade Jr.; the youthful protagonists of a lengthy series of boys adventure/invention novels authored by “Noname.” In fact, the series was started by Harry Enton in 1878 and most of them were written by Luis Senarens (1863-1939) over a period of almost 50 years.
The Reades spent a lot of time out west, taking on various outlaws and natural disasters with a series of self-invented miracle machines, such as the Flying Ironclad (an armored dirigible) and the Steam Man of the Prairies (a giant humanoid robot).

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Lupin  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:57:13am

Declassified memos show that Yeltsin warned Clinton that Putin would take Crimea back — and eventually Alaska.

RadioFreeEurope

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:58:10am
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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:59:14am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Talks shit about Canada. Loves Russia.

Apparently, he thinks Chevrolet is a Canadian company, which it is in a way, but it’s owned by General Motors of the USA. So, who gets hurt more in that kind of deal?

Y’know, China is really really eager to sell its cars abroad. Maybe it can cut a deal with Canada. /

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 7:59:47am

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is being very consistent. After all, he said in 2015 that American wages are too high. Of course, that doesn’t apply to the wealthy — there is no income level too high for them. He is contemptuous of working stiffs — and his base loves it.

The heart of the GOP is a corrupt bargain with the Donor class. They give hundreds of millions to support the GOP, in return for which the GOP votes to borrow trillions to give them tax cuts. The culture wars are for getting the rubes to vote for this shit.

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:00:35am

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

the Flying Ironclad (an armored dirigible)

An “armored dirigible”? What a great idea - somebody send this to the White House: maybe Trump can start development of one for the Space Force!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:00:42am
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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:01:43am

re: #168 Lupin

Declassified memos show that Yeltsin warned Clinton that Putin would take Crimea back — and eventually Alaska.

RadioFreeEurope

I can easily imagine Trump ceding Alaska back to Russia for less money (adjusted for inflation etc.) than the USA paid for it originally.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:03:55am

re: #173 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I am ready for “Q” to start f*cking with his followers more, telling them to do they Hokey Pokie

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:05:21am

Leaving to pick up new teacher at airport. Probably I won’t be saying much here till local morning sometime. See y’all later.

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:05:32am

re: #174 wheat-dogg

I can easily imagine Trump ceding Alaska back to Russia for less money (adjusted for inflation etc.) than the USA paid for it originally.

With the proviso that the Trump Org gets an exclusive concession for hotels & golf clubs…..

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:06:18am

re: #134 Belafon

Las Vegas?

That’s just another mass shooting. Its only a “major event” if brown people, i.e., terrorists, do it.//

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wheat-dogg  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:06:19am

re: #175 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

I am ready for “Q” to start f*cking with his followers more, telling them to do they Hokey Pokie

You put your Manafort in, you take your Manafort out,
You put your Manafort in and shake it all about …

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:09:25am

re: #142 JordanRules

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LOL
That’s like the MoE.

Meanwhile, rightwingers are convinced there is going to be a RED WAVE, and that African-Americans are “walking away” from the Democrats. Completely delusional.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:15:07am
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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:16:43am

The choir at Aretha’s service is as expected. Exceptional!

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:17:37am

re: #143 The Vicious Babushka

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I predict that after Kavanaugh is confirmed, Roberts won’t reverse Roe on the very first go. They will just never see any burden on abortion rights that they consider “undue.” Then once abortion becomes virtually illegal across much of the country and Roe is effectively a dead letter, they will reverse it. This is one of the reasons Democrats should pack the Court the next time they have the power, to restore the balance the GOP took when they stole Garland’s seat.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:18:21am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:19:39am

re: #183 Big Beautiful Door

I predict that after Kavanaugh is confirmed, Roberts won’t reverse Roe on the very first go. They will just never see any burden on abortion rights that they consider “undue.” Then once abortion becomes virtually illegal across much of the country and Roe is effectively a dead letter, they will reverse it. This is one of the reasons Democrats should pack the Court the next time they have the power, to restore the balance the GOP took when they stole Garland’s seat.

We need a 21st century Warren court for the same reasons we needed the last but even more this time since Republicans are only interested in a very narrow interpretation of the Constitution.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:20:07am

re: #184 JordanRules

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You’re scared Zodiac.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:20:58am

The second Texas becomes Purple electorally is the beginning of the end for the GOP.

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Semper Fi  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:21:08am

re: #51 MsJ

Hmmm….

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This upding is really for your #42 where I was limited to only one.

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plansbandc  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:22:51am

re: #142 JordanRules

Oh yeah. Black people are more enthusiastic about the orange thing by the day.

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:23:04am

re: #184 JordanRules

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OK: serious question: how the hell tall IS Beto O’Rourke?
I know he likes to carefully manage to photo angles for his coverage (and/or pose next to short people), but in pix like this he looks to be about 7’6”…

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:23:14am

It’s been 14 hours since Trump last tweeted.

Someone must have taken away his twitter phone, knowing damned well that tweeting while McCain is lying in state at the Rotunda would not go over well with even Trumpworld’s bigot brigade base.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:24:01am

re: #191 lawhawk

It’s been 14 hours since Trump last tweeted.

Someone must have taken away his twitter phone, knowing damned well that tweeting while McCain is lying in state at the Rotunda would not go over well with even Trumpworld’s bigot brigade base.

Lots of them still at least respect his war record

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:24:10am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

You’re scared Zodiac.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:24:11am

re: #175 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

I am ready for “Q” to start f*cking with his followers more, telling them to do they Hokey Pokie

The AC/DC version!

Jim Breuer - impression of AC/DC doing the hokey pokey

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:25:27am

re: #193 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

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Really says a lot about Teddy that he throws his entire lot in with the man who called his father a murderer. I hope the older Cruz disowns him for that.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:26:44am

re: #192 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Lots of them still at least respect his war record

Uh I think you’re not aware of just how many Trumpers believe that McCain collaborated with the NVA. It’s why the I like those who don’t get captured worked.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:26:55am

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Really says a lot about Teddy that he throws his entire lot in with the man who called his father a murderer. I hope the older Cruz disowns him for that.

A real Texan would have kicked that Yankee Trump’s ass for insulting his wife, not get on his knees.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:27:02am

re: #180 Big Beautiful Door

Meanwhile, rightwingers are convinced there is going to be a RED WAVE, and that African-Americans are “walking away” from the Democrats. Completely delusional.

That could happen because of massive voter disenfranchisement. Republicans have succeeded in implementing this in states they control.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:27:43am

re: #137 The Vicious Babushka

Well, I’m baking a Key Lime Pie now.

me too!
what are the odds?

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:28:49am

re: #191 lawhawk

It’s been 14 hours since Trump last tweeted.

Someone must have taken away his twitter phone, knowing damned well that tweeting while McCain is lying in state at the Rotunda would not go over well with even Trumpworld’s bigot brigade base.

I see kelly Anna, Kelly & pence at the Capitol. He must be locked in a closet until they return

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:29:44am

re: #148 Belafon

He thinks he can recreate the Bush swing. But, in a sense, Bush was “lucky.” It hadn’t happened on mainland soil since 1812. But Trump won’t get that benefit.

bush was also ‘lucky’ more of the actually deserving blame didnt stick to him

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:30:47am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Uh I think you’re not aware of just how many Trumpers believe that McCain collaborated with the NVA. It’s why the I like those who don’t get captured worked.

once someone has been demonized in the eyes of True Believers, then there is no end to their perfidy. But I still think that lots of them do not hate McCain as bitterly and personally as much as Trump does.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:30:58am

re: #197 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

A real Texan would have kicked that Yankee Trump’s ass for insulting his wife, not get on his knees.

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Wouldn’t be surprised that once Beto beats him. Heidi and the kids say bye. Cruz is a coward.

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:31:39am

re: #198 Hecuba’s daughter

That could happen because of massive voter disenfranchisement. Republicans have succeeded in implementing this in states they control.

We are getting some wins though. The plot to close almost all the polling places in a majority African-American county in Georgia failed due to the outcry, and North Carolina may be forced by the courts to redistrict before the November elections.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:31:45am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

once someone has been demonized in the eyes of True Believers, then there is no end to their perfidy. But I still think that lots of them do not hate McCain as bitterly and personally as much as Trump does.

Well frankly I think you’ve got no idea. McCain is despised by them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:31:50am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Uh I think you’re not aware of just how many Trumpers believe that McCain collaborated with the NVA. It’s why the I like those who don’t get captured worked.

You are so right. The Trump base detest McCain; they are no different from the Germans who believed whatever Hitler and Goebbels told them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:33:45am

re: #204 Big Beautiful Door

We are getting some wins though. The plot to close almost all the polling places in a majority African-American county in Georgia failed due to the outcry, and North Carolina may be forced by the courts to redistrict before the November elections.

I wouldn’t hold my breath on getting redistricting through. The D’s cannot stop Kavanaugh without Republican support and I bet there are sufficient votes on the SCOTUS to delay implementation.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:36:32am

re: #165 Jay C

I read a recent (yesterday? today?) poll by Gallup (?) that put Trump’s latest approval/disapproval rating at something like 36/60 - the latter being some sort of new record - and the “approval” percentage for Trump’s impeachment at 49%.
So basically half of all Americans polled would be OK with the Orange Anus getting the boot?
TBH, I have to wonder if a “9/11-style event” - especially if it were shown to have some “preventable” aspect/security flaw involved - wouldn’t be the final straw in pushing the Trump Administration into liquidation, rather being its salvation….?

i check real clear politics because they do a running average all the polls
i figure it keeps some of the noise down

on 12/15/17 he was -58.1 + 37.1 for a net of -21 (rounding?)
-21 is the biggest gap i could find

right now they have him at -11.1 with a -53.9 disapproval
the -60 from abc/washpo is in there

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:37:30am

re: #206 Hecuba’s daughter

You are so right. The Trump base detest McCain; they are no different from the Germans who believed whatever Hitler and Goebbels told them.

I think it’s because McCain was one of the few Republican Party high ups not to kiss their asses. He wasn’t afraid to call out pardon the word deplorable behavior by them.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:37:39am

re: #206 Hecuba’s daughter

You are so right. The Trump base detest McCain; they are no different from the Germans who believed whatever Hitler and Goebbels told them.

And that’s the big thing. Trump gives them targets to hate.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:38:09am
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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:39:32am

We shouldn’t romanticize this?

You’re right. All too much along our history our immigration policy has been flat out racist and anti-Semitic. Waves of immigrants from Europe saw attacks and efforts to limit their immigration all while claiming we couldn’t accommodate the new arrivals. Then Eastern Europeans came, often with significant Jewish populations, and the same arguments were made.

Then we had the Nazis rise in Europe, and the anti Semites came out in force to try and limit immigration further, especially Jews trying to flee the Nazis. That anti Semitic policy continued until after WWII ended.

Later, the racist policies shifted to keep Asian and Latin Americans from immigrating.

So yeah, let’s not romanticize Ellis Island and our immigration policy.

With Trump, white nationalism is the unifying feature/goal.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:39:57am

re: #171 Big Beautiful Door

The heart of the GOP is a corrupt bargain with the Donor class. They give hundreds of millions to support the GOP, in return for which the GOP votes to borrow trillions to give them tax cuts. The culture wars are for getting the rubes to vote for this shit.

they will never understand that trump hates them. he’s snubbed the non-rich his whole life. he despises anyone who’s not a ‘self starter’ or entrepreneur.

you know, who did it all on his own, like he did. //

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:41:25am

re: #190 Jay C

OK: serious question: how the hell tall IS Beto O’Rourke?
I know he likes to carefully manage to photo angles for his coverage (and/or pose next to short people), but in pix like this he looks to be about 7’6”…

It seems to be a well kept secrect. I couldn’t find it via google.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:41:42am

re: #199 dangerman

me too!
what are the odds?

Inorite!

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:42:31am
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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:44:50am

re: #210 Belafon

And that’s the big thing. Trump gives them targets to hate.

He can get them to turn on a dime too. Many of them used to hate Putin.
He got them to sort of like Kim.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:45:25am

This is why Trump is going after Bruce Ohr. They are scared that the US intel community knows the extent of Trump’s compromised nature (and they do).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:46:09am

re: #212 lawhawk

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We shouldn’t romanticize this?

You’re right. All too much along our history our immigration policy has been flat out racist and anti-Semitic. Waves of immigrants from Europe saw attacks and efforts to limit their immigration all while claiming we couldn’t accommodate the new arrivals. Then Eastern Europeans came, often with significant Jewish populations, and the same arguments were made.

Then we had the Nazis rise in Europe, and the anti Semites came out in force to try and limit immigration further, especially Jews trying to flee the Nazis. That anti Semitic policy continued until after WWII ended.

Later, the racist policies shifted to keep Asian and Latin Americans from immigrating.

So yeah, let’s not romanticize Ellis Island and our immigration policy.

With Trump, white nationalism is the unifying feature/goal.

Written by someone who probably had a great grandparent come in through Ellis Island. FU Heritage.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:49:53am

For me, I’ve cherished finding my roots of entry to this nation. The earliest in Washington’s first term as President. The latest when a second great granddaughter of the above- my Nana was 9 years old- my other grandmother’s mother. Our nation has always been out of many, one. One nation where people of many unique backgrounds share their love of what America means. It’s beyond infuriating that the Know Nothing Party’s values are espoused by the President of the United States and by too many elected officials.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:50:53am

Heritage is fine with romanticizing the CSA and pre Civil Rights Era of course too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:51:08am

re: #212 lawhawk

We shouldn’t romanticize this?

You’re right. All too much along our history our immigration policy has been flat out racist and anti-Semitic. Waves of immigrants from Europe saw attacks and efforts to limit their immigration all while claiming we couldn’t accommodate the new arrivals. Then Eastern Europeans came, often with significant Jewish populations, and the same arguments were made.

That is the flip side of the story, but one thing I am nonetheless proud of is that America offered a new life and a chance to a lot of political and economic refugees. Of course, we preferred light-skinned Protestants but took an awful lot who were neither.

and hagiographies and fawning eulogies aside, John McCain did recognize one thing about American nationalism and patriotism; ours is not about the place you were born or lived in, it is about the ideals your nation stands for.

It is not about obedience but about conscience, it is not just about laws but also about morality.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:53:37am
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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:55:12am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t be surprised that once Beto beats him. Heidi and the kids say bye. Cruz is a coward.

from electoral-vote.com:

A big part of the problem is that he’s got serious liabilities that have little to do with the issues:

- He is one of the least charismatic politicians in recent memory
- His goal is clearly to use the Senate as a springboard to bigger things (i.e., the White House), and Texans know it
- He is a shameless opportunist, as evidenced by his rejection, and then embrace, of Donald Trump
- Nearly all of his colleagues loathe him, such that they will not be motivated to go above and beyond to help him
- Like Trump, he’s very divisive, which means that most Texans’ opinions about him are hardened. Either they love him, or they can’t stand him—there aren’t many fence-sitters for him to win over

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Weaselone  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:56:54am

re: #173 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So conservatives are all Trashcan Man now.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:57:29am

re: #206 Hecuba’s daughter

You are so right. The Trump base detest McCain; they are no different from the Germans who believed whatever Hitler and Goebbels told them.

i think that’s a big point

they want to believe a thing
some——thing
any —- thing
then they ‘belong’
so if it’s spoonfed on a platter, relatively easy to understand and remember, it sticks

truth or logic or reason arent relevant

the ability to recall and repeat are

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:57:47am

re: #224 dangerman

from electoral-vote.com:

Right. Well stated.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 8:58:06am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:00:12am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:01:19am

re: #228 JordanRules

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No wonder why the Orange one has it out for him.

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:02:10am

re: #191 lawhawk

It’s been 14 hours since Trump last tweeted.

Someone must have taken away his twitter phone, knowing damned well that tweeting while McCain is lying in state at the Rotunda would not go over well with even Trumpworld’s bigot brigade base.

Isn’t he on another 3 day golf vacation?

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:02:19am

re: #217 JordanRules

He can get them to turn on a dime too. Many of them used to hate Putin.
He got them to sort of like Kim.

they dont want to think and figure stuff out
they like being told what to think
even if it contradicts yesterday

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Big Beautiful Door  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:04:00am

re: #208 dangerman

i check real clear politics because they do a running average all the polls
i figure it keeps some of the noise down

on 12/15/17 he was -58.1 + 37.1 for a net of -21 (rounding?)
-21 is the biggest gap i could find

right now they have him at -11.1 with a -53.9 disapproval
the -60 from abc/washpo is in there

538 has Trump’s approval at -13.6. Nate Silver weights the polls so that low quality polls like Rasmussen aren’t overweighted.

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:04:35am

Yeah, right.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:05:31am

re: #234 Single-handed sailor

Yeah, right.

He meant man-children, i.e., the abusers.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:05:58am

re: #234 Single-handed sailor

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Yeah, right.

Mmm hmmm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:07:56am

re: #231 Skip Intro

Isn’t he on another 3 day golf vacation?

he has even forced himself to go to dumpy Camp David to further isolate himself

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danarchy  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:10:08am

re: #190 Jay C

OK: serious question: how the hell tall IS Beto O’Rourke?
I know he likes to carefully manage to photo angles for his coverage (and/or pose next to short people), but in pix like this he looks to be about 7’6”…

There are pictures of him campaigning with Arian Foster who is 6’1” and they look close to the same height, Beto may be an inch or two taller.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:11:17am

re: #233 Big Beautiful Door

538 has Trump’s approval at -13.6. Nate Silver weights the polls so that low quality polls like Rasmussen aren’t overweighted.

that works for me too and is probably more accurate
rcp is more like a meta analysis and i know it’s got some problems

when 538 was it’s own site i followed it religiously
i guess i should just bookmark it again and be done with it

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:13:33am

Detroit mayor speaking at the service just announced they will rename Chene Park, the music venue, Aretha Franklin Park. Raucous applause.

He gave a nice e history of the venue too.

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:14:58am

re: #234 Single-handed sailor

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Yeah, right.

Not surprising the Australian bishops (any Catholic bishops, really) would reject this stuff: the sanctity of the confessional is pretty fundamental to Church doctrine (and the law). I don’t know how influential the RCC is in Australia, but I know over here it would be career suicide (and a quick trip to a judicial reversal) for any prosecutor to, say, go after a priest over “confessional” issues.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:15:52am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

Trump’s approval/disapproval among black respondents in the new ABC News poll is 3/93

Kanye. He’s full of himself enough to be considered 3%.

Plus, he needed $$$ really badly and that was, surprisingly, exactly when he met with trump. Go figure.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:17:22am

re: #241 Jay C

Not surprising the Australian bishops (any Catholic bishops, really) would reject this stuff: the sanctity of the confessional is pretty fundamental to Church doctrine (and the law). I don’t know how influential the RCC is in Australia, but I know over here it would be career suicide (and a quick trip to a judicial reversal) for any prosecutor to, say, go after a priest over “confessional” issues.

then they best not be granting absolution…
“i’ll never do it again” yeah right.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:17:56am

re: #242 MsJ

Kanye. He’s full of himself enough to be considered 3%.

Plus, he needed $$$ really badly and that was, surprisingly, exactly when he met with trump. Go figure.

It’s funny as shit seeing Breitbart and the rest of the lily white right embrace Kanye as some great truth teller about Trump and the black community.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:19:56am
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Mike Lamb  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:20:16am

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

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Pollster No. 1: Shit, look at this…he’s polling at zero among African Americans.

Pollster No. 2: Damn…I get it, but Trump is going to come out all over Twitter against us.

No. 1: What do we now?

No. 2: Call it 3 in support.

No. 1: 3%

No. 2: No, just 3. Candace, Diamond and Silk…

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makeitstop  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:25:30am

re: #223 JordanRules

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Damn. She kicked that song like Mick dreams he could.

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MsJ  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:28:40am

But of course she did.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:31:21am

re: #248 MsJ

But of course she did.

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She also had disgusting remarks about people with autism following Katz the Madden tournament shooter having more info revealed about him. I hate that woman. All she does is be a bigoted bitch and she’s made a nice living out of it. Meanwhile we read about citizens being harassed on the border.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:36:55am

re: #241 Jay C

Not surprising the Australian bishops (any Catholic bishops, really) would reject this stuff: the sanctity of the confessional is pretty fundamental to Church doctrine (and the law). I don’t know how influential the RCC is in Australia, but I know over here it would be career suicide (and a quick trip to a judicial reversal) for any prosecutor to, say, go after a priest over “confessional” issues.

Australia was also one of the places the Church sent “problem priests” to minister to the Aborigines, so they have a heck of a lot to cover up.

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electrotek  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:39:46am

That’ll buff out. A rental car in Japan involved in an accident that claimed the life of a R34 Skyline GT-R V.spec sadly

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:44:58am

Read this

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:48:49am

Sharpton takes a shot at Trump during his portion of Aretha service and the congregation goes wild, on their feet

Yeah, it might be less than 3%.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:50:59am
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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:51:31am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Heritage is fine with romanticizing the CSA and pre Civil Rights Era of course too.

Happy, do you know anything about Kay Coles James, the new CEO of The Heritage Foundation. She seemed to have a lot to do with Virginia Commonwealth University and Regent University and served in the Allen governorship and “W” Bush admins.

She took over for slimy Jim DeMint in January.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:54:35am

Wow, Trump has managed to piss off, insult and demean both countries I love.

I really can’t overstate how much I hate this man.

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danarchy  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:54:45am

re: #254 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Why are you responding to a 2.5 year old tweet? Did it get a recent bump for some reason?

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:55:35am

re: #231 Skip Intro

Isn’t he on another 3 day golf vacation?

I think it was highly encouraged he take today and the weekend away. The White House staff knew it would be a mess having him around and having to listen to him.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:55:51am

re: #255 ObserverArt

Happy, do you know anything about Kay Coles James, the new CEO of The Heritage Foundation. She seemed to have a lot to do with Virginia Commonwealth University and Regent University and served in the Allen governorship and “W” Bush admins.

She took over for slimy Jim DeMint in January.

She seems to be a mainstay when I was younger. Seems very Republican establishment to me.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:58:02am

Ah James was Commonwealth Sec of Health and Human Services in the mid 90’s. I probably subconsciously recognized her name.

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Interesting Times  Aug 31, 2018 • 9:58:24am

re: #252 Stanley Sea

Read this

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Yeah, and we all know the result of the 2000 election - makes me wonder what might have happened if they’d made like GOPers and used the thing instead of turning it in :/

Pro-wrestling, reality TV, and all the other sleazy, carnival-barker aspects of American culture seem to result in a climate where playing dirty gets rewarded.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:01:28am

re: #261 Interesting Times

Yeah, and we all know the result of the 2000 election - makes me wonder what might have happened if they’d made like GOPers and used the thing instead of turning it in :/

Pro-wrestling, reality TV, and all the other sleazy, carnival-barker aspects of American culture seem to result in a climate where playing dirty gets rewarded.

It makes you wonder for sure. I think ultimately Downey did the right thing.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:03:38am

Good God what an asshole:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:05:29am

re: #256 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, Trump has managed to piss off, insult and demean both countries I love.

I really can’t overstate how much I hate this man.

Try loving Russia and a totalitarian Philippines instead. You’ll love Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:05:46am

re: #263 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Good God what an asshole:

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Her family invited them, idiot. Who are you? Your whole claim to fame is your conservative persecution complex.

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:07:34am

re: #263 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Good God what an asshole:

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Dear Charlie Kirk,

If Aretha Franklin were alive to hear you say this, she would kick your ass.

There is a reason those people you mention are in the front row. She wanted them there.

And if you were there, she would want you removed.

Fuck off you little pissant.

Signed,

America

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:07:48am
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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:10:36am

Charlie Kirk: A really stupid man’s Ben Shapiro

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:11:02am

LOL

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:11:29am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

It’s funny as shit seeing Breitbart and the rest of the lily white right embrace Kanye as some great truth teller about Trump and the black community.

like everyone’s said, since its 97% disapprove, kanye’s representing an awfully small ‘community’

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:13:23am

re: #269 JordanRules

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LOL

Maybe he can stop by for his favorite Confederate relic here in Va.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:14:07am

re: #263 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Good God what an asshole:

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Charlie Kirk is calling people con artists? Do I have that right??

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:14:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:15:00am

these eejits:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:16:48am
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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:17:36am
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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:17:48am

re: #269 JordanRules

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LOL

…”the biggest stadium in Texas we can find”. Why? So news cameras can have acres and acres of empty seats to pan over before they focus on the crowd jammed into the end-zone with Don & Ted?

I see they’re allowing plenty of time for this rally: must take them a while to advertise for, hire and pay a suitably large crowd.

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Interesting Times  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:18:37am

re: #276 JordanRules

Related (though I can’t find the original tweet):

Facebook Post

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:20:22am

Here’s what Charlie Kirk was so offended by:

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:22:05am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

these eejits:

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I guess you forgot your entire strategy of 09-17 for Obama was obstruct and then dog whistle to your racist inbred base.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:22:32am

re: #277 Jay C

…”the biggest stadium in Texas we can find”. Why? So news cameras can have acres and acres of empty seats to pan over before they focus on the crowd jammed into the end-zone with Don & Ted?

I see they’re allowing plenty of time for this rally: must take them a while to advertise for, hire and pay a suitably large crowd.

who else remembers Romney’s stadium rally disaster?
Mitt Romney in Michigan: At Detroit’s Ford Field, empty seats steal thunder

DETROIT — Friday was supposed to be the moment for Mitt Romney’s triumphant return to his birthplace, when he would use the cavernous Ford Field to deliver a policy address that established him as the lone Republican capable of both fixing the economy and beating President Obama.

But the event served up fresh evidence for Romney critics who say he can’t rise to the occasion and rally important elements of the GOP around his candidacy.

The lunchtime speech was delivered from the 30-yard line before 1,200 suited-up business leaders in folding chairs, in a stadium that usually holds 65,000.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:22:33am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s what Charlie Kirk was so offended by:

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Yeah I figured he got triggered. Poor snowflake.

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electrotek  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:22:43am

re: #276 JordanRules

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Where are all those pro-Trump Vietnamese idiots in Garden Grove now?????

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:23:13am

re: #279 The Vicious Babushka

Here’s what Charlie Kirk was so offended by:

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Oh I think he was being truthful and is offended by their presence regardless of what they said/say.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:23:29am

re: #275 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not to nit pick, but the will of the American people was for somebody else to be President, and for Democrats to control the House. Trump represents only the will of the gerrymanders and the electoral college.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:23:56am

re: #263 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Good God what an asshole:

“Why can’t her funeral be more white?”

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:24:00am

re: #277 Jay C

…”the biggest stadium in Texas we can find”. Why? So news cameras can have acres and acres of empty seats to pan over before they focus on the crowd jammed into the end-zone with Don & Ted?

I see they’re allowing plenty of time for this rally: must take them a while to advertise for, hire and pay a suitably large crowd.

People will come from all 254 counties to fill them! Two from each! My campaign knows how to find them!

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:24:11am

re: #269 JordanRules

We know the biggest stadiums in Texas. They can seat 100,000 or more.

Take your pick: Kyle Field, Royal Memorial Stadium, AT&T, and then the Cotton Bowl comes in at 91,000.

So, if you aren’t picking one of those four, then you can’t find the biggest.

If you can’t fill it up, we know you couldn’t get 100,000 in Texas.

If you instead go for an indoor arena, you’d still have to start with AT&T since that seats 100,000 and is enclosed.

All the big Texas indoor arenas have capacity of around 20,000.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:24:56am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

these eejits:

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Guy gets put in office by arguably the most anti-democratic element of our political system…but whatever.

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:25:47am

re: #283 electrotek

Where are all those pro-Trump Vietnamese idiots in Garden Grove now?????

Likely on the phone to their lawyers.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:27:11am

re: #283 electrotek

Where are all those pro-Trump Vietnamese idiots in Garden Grove now?????

Man I don’t know, but constantly focusing on the usually statistically small group of Trump/GOP supporters within marginalized groups all the time feels unnecessary.
They exist. They are crazy. They have internalized shit. They aren’t worth the time. Uplift all the others!

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:27:25am

re: #283 electrotek

Where are all those pro-Trump Vietnamese idiots in Garden Grove now?????

Nobody ever thinks he’s talking about them.

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b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:27:31am

re: #288 lawhawk

We know the biggest stadiums in Texas. They can seat 100,000 or more.

Take your pick: Kyle Field, Royal Memorial Stadium, AT&T, and then the Cotton Bowl comes in at 91,000.

So, if you aren’t picking one of those four, then you can’t find the biggest.

If you can’t fill it up, we know you couldn’t get 100,000 in Texas.

If you instead go for an indoor arena, you’d still have to start with AT&T since that seats 100,000 and is enclosed.

All the big Texas indoor arenas have capacity of around 20,000.

BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS STILL OUTSIDE THAT THE FIRE MARSHALL WON’T LET IN!!

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:27:41am

re: #288 lawhawk

They make sure they pick a day when the biggest stadiums aren’t available and that will be their excuse.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:28:53am

re: #276 JordanRules

What are the details of those they are targeting? I have a coworker who’s a naturalized citizen from Vietnam who I know voted for Trump.

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electrotek  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:30:32am

re: #291 JordanRules

Man I don’t know, but constantly focusing on the usually statistically small group of Trump/GOP supporters within marginalized groups all the time feels unnecessary.
They exist. They are crazy. They have internalized shit. They aren’t worth the time. Uplift all the others!

I know what you mean, but there IS a sizeable contingent of Vietnamese-Americans who have consistently voted Republican ever since late President Gerald Ford allowed them to settle in America after the fall of Saigon (which I don’t blame them for).

Never underestimate the right-wing tendencies of Vietnamese Catholics though.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:31:00am

re: #291 JordanRules

Man I don’t know, but constantly focusing on the usually statistically small group of Trump/GOP supporters within marginalized groups all the time feels unnecessary.
They exist. They are crazy. They have internalized shit. They aren’t worth the time. Uplift all the others!

Plus, it’s Garden Grove. Not the land of great examples to learn from.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:31:47am

Damn. Sad.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:33:28am

re: #294 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

With this bunch? Do you really think they’re planning THAT far ahead?

No, they’ll do it on a day when EVERY stadium is empty, claim they were all booked, and then boast about the crowds piling up outside…when half the arena is empty.

And the Qultists will believe him.

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jaunte  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:35:36am

Trump-employed lawyers are getting worse.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:36:52am

re: #295 Belafon

What are the details of those they are targeting? I have a coworker who’s a naturalized citizen from Vietnam who I know voted for Trump.

I’m not sure.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:37:44am

re: #285 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Not to nit pick, but the will of the American people was for somebody else to be President, and for Democrats to control the House. Trump represents only the will of the gerrymanders and the electoral college.

the r’s have a knack for twisting this anytime they need it
cf: mcconnell re garland

even when they are in the minorty they have a way of co-opting ‘the will of the people’ as somehow relevant to their position

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:38:04am

re: #286 Belafon

“Why can’t her funeral be more white?”

“wah. i wasnt invited”

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:39:46am

re: #288 lawhawk

We know the biggest stadiums in Texas. They can seat 100,000 or more.

Take your pick: Kyle Field, Royal Memorial Stadium, AT&T, and then the Cotton Bowl comes in at 91,000.

So, if you aren’t picking one of those four, then you can’t find the biggest.

If you can’t fill it up, we know you couldn’t get 100,000 in Texas.

If you instead go for an indoor arena, you’d still have to start with AT&T since that seats 100,000 and is enclosed.

All the big Texas indoor arenas have capacity of around 20,000.

you know all this
he doesnt

that’s why he has to “find” one

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Single-handed sailor  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:41:06am
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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:41:08am

re: #304 dangerman

It takes 2 seconds of google-fu.

And his team has to now scramble to find someplace that is big or else his lie/boast is revealed as still more empty nonsense to flatter the rubes.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:42:58am

re: #296 electrotek

I know what you mean, but there IS a sizeable contingent of Vietnamese-Americans who have consistently voted Republican ever since late President Gerald Ford allowed them to settle in America after the fall of Saigon (which I don’t blame them for).

Never underestimate the right-wing tendencies of Vietnamese Catholics though.

Yeah. There is definitely a very unique historical dynamic here for Vietnamese Americans.

We do still tend to capture a lot of the socially “conservative” (thru a religious lens) demos.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:43:26am

re: #300 jaunte

This is an embarrassment for the lawyers that filed it. What about these other guys who did bad stuff is not a legal defense

Trump-employed lawyers are getting worse.

..well, not a winning one…

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Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:43:35am

re: #306 lawhawk

It takes 2 seconds of google-fu.

And his team has to now scramble to find someplace that is big or else his lie/boast is revealed as still more empty nonsense to flatter the rubes.

You know they won’t care. He can say anything he wants and they’ll believe it 100%.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:44:22am

re: #300 jaunte

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:44:26am

re: #295 Belafon

What are the details of those they are targeting? I have a coworker who’s a naturalized citizen from Vietnam who I know voted for Trump.

i dont think who they voted for will help

// 1/2

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:45:25am

Beautiful acknowledgement of Maxine Waters at the Franklin service. The congregation stands and tells her in unison “we got your back”.

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gwangung  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:47:14am

re: #312 JordanRules

Beautiful acknowledgement of Maxine Waters at the Franklin service. The congregation stands and tells her in unison “we got your back”.

Heh. That’ll get a lot of choice commentary from winners who clap on the 1 and 3….

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:47:48am

wapo:

President Trump is considering Washington litigator Pat Cipollone to replace outgoing White House counsel Donald McGahn.

Cipollone has been working behind the scenes advising Trump’s outside legal team since June.

when your lawyers need lawyers….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:48:41am

re: #305 Single-handed sailor

Feel like banging my head against the wall. If I did that every time I feel like it, though, I would be dumb enough to vote for Trump in 2020. The average Trumpster will hear “UN” and start spewing John Birch talking points: It’s run by Soros and the international Jewish cabal, except when it is bashing Israel, at which times it is run by gay socialist third world kleptocrats and lizard people.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:50:05am

This is a horrible sign of things that may come.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:50:52am

I went and looked up who Trump is deporting: washingtonpost.com. It’s basically those with some form of past or present legal trouble. But, here’s the big rub: The guy in the WaPo article is the son of a US soldier. He’s American, period, as far as I am concerned.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:51:49am
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Kragar  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:53:04am
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:54:51am

Don’t want to let Aretha Franklin go—-

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:55:49am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:57:01am

For folks demanding pics of Rango AND Dory (I’m looking at YOU, Stanley Sea), here’s one I took last night. Excuse the low res and the blurry Dory - it was taken in low light with my iPhone and then ‘enhanced’.

Dory found a stick in the yard, and Mrs. FBW brought it in for her. Now they’re each claiming it as their own. This is the one she was debarking yesterday. This time, Rango had taken it from her and held it down with his ginormous paw, while Dory bounced around trying to get to it.

Hey! Whatcha got? Huh? Huh? Izzat a STICK? Huh? Huh? Can I have it?!?
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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:57:39am

re: #320 Barefoot Grin

Don’t want to let Aretha Franklin go—-

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Last I checked, I think we’re almost 2 hours behind. LOL
Absolutely expected!

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:57:43am
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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:58:07am

a not horrible analysis by cillizza

wrt to partisanship, tribalism, etc
and he does manage to get to the point i make all the time that “only the other side is capable of behaving despicably”

he misses it in the end, because objectively, it’s not two way or both sides

who run bartertown?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:58:25am

Oklahoma Republican Suggests Turning Kids Over to ICE If They Don’t Speak English

An Oklahoma Republican sparked controversy after he suggested turning over thousands of the state’s non-English speaking students to Immigration and Customs Enforcement as a way to save money.

Republican Rep. Mike Ritze, said Oklahoma could solve some of its money problems by identifying what his caucus believes are 82,000 non-English speaking students and sending them to ICE to determine whether they are citizens in an interview with local news station News9.

“Identify them and then turn them over to ICE to see if they truly are citizens — and do we really have to educate noncitizens?” Ritze asked.

The 1982 Supreme Court decision Plyler v. Doe prohibits states from denying education to undocumented immigrants.

What about all the white kids who speak only Goober, or some other weird dialect from the godforsaken hinterland?

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electrotek  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:58:48am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oklahoma Republican Suggests Turning Kids Over to ICE If They Don’t Speak English

What about all the white kids who speak only Goober, or some other weird dialect from the godforsaken hinterland?

Does that also include Israeli kids?

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:58:53am

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

Dory is in prime zoom mode. No camera can compete!

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:59:09am

re: #316 JordanRules

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This is a horrible sign of things that may come.

they’re ignoring the deadline

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:59:35am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Yeah I figured he got triggered. Poor snowflake.

I doubt that little asswipe even cares.

He saw Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Bill Clinton and knew it was an easy hit. Those three names will get wingnuts foaming at the mouth as quick as anyone.

It’s an easy target for a lazy grift.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 10:59:58am

re: #321 Charles Johnson

So, Chuck Todd was right yesterday about news dropping today?

Then again, it was 50/50. And this is Trumpworld we’re talking about, where the indictments, guilty pleas, and plea deals come fast and furious.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:02:37am

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

For folks demanding pics of Rango AND Dory (I’m looking at YOU, Stanley Sea), here’s one I took last night. Excuse the low res and the blurry Dory - it was taken in low light with my iPhone and then ‘enhanced’.

Dory found a stick in the yard, and Mrs. FBW brought it in for her. Now they’re each claiming it as their own. This is the one she was debarking yesterday. This time, Rango had taken it from her and held it down with his ginormous paw, while Dory bounced around trying to get to it.

Hey! Whatcha got? Huh? Huh? Izzat a STICK? Huh? Huh? Can I have it?!?

fwappp! shoo

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Charles Johnson  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:03:20am

re: #331 lawhawk

So, Chuck Todd was right yesterday about news dropping today?

Then again, it was 50/50. And this is Trumpworld we’re talking about, where the indictments, guilty pleas, and plea deals come fast and furious.

It’s really amazing how many crooks are in this rotten administration.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:03:43am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oklahoma Republican Suggests Turning Kids Over to ICE If They Don’t Speak English

What about all the white kids who speak only Goober, or some other weird dialect from the godforsaken hinterland?

If a non-English language is spoken at home, kids often don’t learn English until they go to school. That was age 8, for my Chicago-born grandfather.

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:03:56am

re: #288 lawhawk

We know the biggest stadiums in Texas. They can seat 100,000 or more.

Take your pick: Kyle Field, Royal Memorial Stadium, AT&T, and then the Cotton Bowl comes in at 91,000.

So, if you aren’t picking one of those four, then you can’t find the biggest.

If you can’t fill it up, we know you couldn’t get 100,000 in Texas.

If you instead go for an indoor arena, you’d still have to start with AT&T since that seats 100,000 and is enclosed.

All the big Texas indoor arenas have capacity of around 20,000.

He’ll do it at Joel Osteen’s church; and Joel will fill it for him.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:05:29am

re: #329 dangerman

they’re ignoring the deadline

Completely disregarding the law to extend human rights violations against the most vulnerable amongst us.

We have drawn hope from the judiciary as firewall at times - good, important, correctly adjudicated wins.
But flouting this order feels really, really dangerous.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:06:07am

re: #331 lawhawk

So, Chuck Todd was right yesterday about news dropping today?

Then again, it was 50/50. And this is Trumpworld we’re talking about, where the indictments, guilty pleas, and plea deals come fast and furious.

it wasnt really much of a prediction
and the idea that labor day is some kind of drop dead date is ludicrous
they’re investigating a whole host of people who are not in politics.
they can drop that hammer any time they want

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:06:52am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oklahoma Republican Suggests Turning Kids Over to ICE If They Don’t Speak English

What about all the white kids who speak only Goober, or some other weird dialect from the godforsaken hinterland?

why english?
is it some kind of national language?

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:07:48am

re: #298 JordanRules

Damn. Sad.

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We used to have a great little alternative tabloid paper here in Columbus called The Other Paper (other than the damn Dispatch). It was great. And it was also strong on the arts scene in town.

It was sold to a publishing company in Texas. It was then bought off by The Dispatch from the new owner and shut down.

Some folks thought the whole thing was planned from the get go, but they let the paper live on for a few years before selling it to The Dispatch.

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:07:59am

re: #336 JordanRules

Completely disregarding the law to extend human rights violations against the most vulnerable amongst us.

We have drawn hope from the judiciary as firewall at times - good, important, correctly adjudicated wins.
But flouting this order feels really, really dangerous.

the judge knows it and (im totally guessing) doesnt know what to do that would be effective and not look….well, you know

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Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:08:01am

re: #322 Blind Frog Belly White

Gracias!

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:09:09am

re: #339 ObserverArt

We used to have a great little alternative tabloid paper here in Columbus called The Other Paper (other than the damn Dispatch). It was great. And it was also strong on the arts scene in town.

It was sold to a publishing company in Texas. It was then bought off by The Dispatch from the new owner and shut down.

Some folks thought the whole thing was planned from the get go, but they let the paper live on for a few years before selling it to The Dispatch.

at college, there was a bar called “The Other Place”

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Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:09:21am

re: #338 dangerman

why english?
is it some kind of national language?

ghobe’.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:09:44am

re: #340 dangerman

the judge knows it and (im totally guessing) doesnt know what to do that would be effective and not look….well, you know

Exactly!

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Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:09:44am

re: #314 dangerman

wapo:

President Trump is considering Washington litigator Pat Cipollone to replace outgoing White House counsel Donald McGahn.

Cipollone has been working behind the scenes advising Trump’s outside legal team since June.

when your lawyers need lawyers….

MAGA: My Attorneys Get Attorneys…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:10:10am

re: #332 dangerman

fwappp! shoo

Rango’s approach, when Dory has a toy he wants, is to hover nearby, waiting for an opening. Then he grabs it, retreats to his bed or a section of the floor, and just puts a paw or his head on it and ignores her. She’ll bounce around him, sometimes barking, as he continues to ignore her, with kind of a “Go ahead at TRY to take it, Tiny” attitude.

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TedStriker  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:10:30am

re: #336 JordanRules

Completely disregarding the law to extend human rights violations against the most vulnerable amongst us.

We have drawn hope from the judiciary as firewall at times - good, important, correctly adjudicated wins.
But flouting this order feels really, really dangerous.

Trump loves him some Andrew Jackson (as a Nashvillian, that makes me want to retch, even with all of the major issues with Jackson’s legacy), so, in a perverted way, it makes sense that one of Trump’s leading strategies with dealing with policy defeats in court is to use Jackson’s apocryphal “the court has made its decision, now let them enforce it.”

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ObserverArt  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:10:43am

re: #306 lawhawk

It takes 2 seconds of google-fu.

And his team has to now scramble to find someplace that is big or else his lie/boast is revealed as still more empty nonsense to flatter the rubes.

Texas has some big high school stadiums. He could use one of them and say it was in a big stadium.

Hey, It’s Trump. He’ll BS his way out of the boast one way or another.

349
dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:11:53am

just finished three days of crockpot tuscan chicken stew

it was yummy

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:12:34am

re: #347 TedStriker

Trump loves him some Andrew Jackson (as a Nashvillian, that makes me want to retch, even with all of the major issues with Jackson’s legacy), so, in a perverted way, it makes sense that one of Trump’s leading strategies with dealing with policy defeats in court is to basically use Jackson’s apocryphal “the court has made its decision, now let them enforce it.”

This!
This is the rubber meeting the rode moment that terrifies me.

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:12:36am

re: #323 JordanRules

Last I checked, I think we’re almost 2 hours behind. LOL
Absolutely expected!

1 hour.

Time zones.

352
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:15:36am

Too optimistic?

Imagine: Trump will take up little or no more prison space than some drug dealer or axe murderer who has only harmed a few people rather than millions. I call that efficient government.

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:15:39am

re: #349 dangerman

just finished three days of crockpot tuscan chicken stew

it was yummy

Cooked for three days in the crockpot?!? That’s slooowwww food.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:16:11am

re: #351 sagehen

1 hour.

Time zones.

Well hell, only an hour, that’s on schedule then!

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:16:21am

Bernard Schwartz

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Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:16:28am

re: #353 wrenchwench

Cooked for three days in the crockpot?!? That’s slooowwww food.

Or ate 3 days worth of food for lunch.
:P

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dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:16:37am

re: #353 wrenchwench

Cooked for three days in the crockpot?!? That’s slooowwww food.

i deserved that

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:16:53am

re: #334 wrenchwench

If a non-English language is spoken at home, kids often don’t learn English until they go to school. That was age 8, for my Chicago-born grandfather.

For my Brooklyn-born dad, half his school was Jewish kids from Yiddish-speaking homes, the other half were Catholic kids from Italian-speaking homes.

(but all the kids spoke Dodger).

359
makeitstop  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:17:56am

re: #349 dangerman

just finished three days of crockpot tuscan chicken stew

it was yummy

I misread that as ‘crackpot tuscan chicken stew.’ No offense. :)

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:18:52am

re: #352 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Too optimistic?

[Embedded content]

Imagine: Trump will take up little or no more prison space than some drug dealer or axe murderer who has only harmed a few people rather than millions. I call that efficient government.

His fixtures will be nice, shiny, stainless steel. And his tiny hands won’t be bothered with social media while he’s on his steel throne.

361
JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:19:18am
362
lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:20:59am

re: #333 Charles Johnson

No. It isn’t amazing.

It was entirely predictable given how Trump operated.

It was predictable given how Trump was conning everyone all the time, and the only ones who haven’t been conned are the FBI and intel community that has had their ears perked up from the get-go because everything Trump did re: foreign countries reeked.

Trump surrounded himself with compromised and complicit people.

Take Flynn (yeah, oldie but goodie). Trump wanted his input. Trump put him on transition team. Trump made him NSA, despite the FBI/DOJ directly warning that Flynn was compromised.

Instead of heeding DOJ/FBI, Trump fired Yates because she told him what he didn’t want to hear.

Trump wanted Flynn because he thought Flynn was a loyalist to him personally. That was, is, and will always be, the only thing Trump cares about - are you loyal to him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:22:59am
364
dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:23:21am

re: #359 makeitstop

I misread that as ‘crackpot tuscan chicken stew.’ No offense. :)

wasnt my recipe so certainly possible

365
BeachDem  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:25:25am

Heh

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:25:34am
367
Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:26:38am
368
Interesting Times  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:27:58am

re: #367 Stanley Sea

Dumb question: is that illegal, the same way foreign contributions to an election campaign are…?

369
Stanley Sea  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:28:53am
370
lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:29:12am

re: #368 Interesting Times

Dumb question: is that illegal, the same way foreign contributions to an election campaign are…?

Yes.

371
dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:29:47am

re: #370 lawhawk

Yes.

that settles it
lock him up!

372
Lidane  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:31:02am

Happy Friday everyone! Ted Cruz is in deep trouble:

The fact that a Republican president has to come to Texas to campaign for an incumbent Republican Senator speaks volumes about how terrified they are of Beto, and how vulnerable Ted Cruz actually is.

This is awesome. I love it!

373
Jay C  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:32:07am

re: #366 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Oh, swell: more good world news….. ////

At least the late Mr. Zakharchenko didn’t “fall out a window” as these things are usually reported.
Or did he accidentally fall out a window onto a bomb….?

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:33:49am

re: #372 Lidane

Happy Friday everyone! Ted Cruz is in deep trouble:

The fact that a Republican president has to come to Texas to campaign for an incumbent Republican Senator speaks volumes about how terrified they are of Beto, and how vulnerable Ted Cruz actually is.

This is awesome. I love it!

Democrats here should actually cheer at the news.

375
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:34:02am

Chemnitz Protests Show New Strength of Germany’s Far Right

Waving German flags, with some flashing Nazi salutes, the angry mob made its way through the streets, chasing after dark-skinned bystanders as police officers, vastly outnumbered, were too afraid to intervene.

A Syrian refugee and father of two, Anas al-Nahlawie, watched horrified from a friend’s fourth-floor balcony. They were hunting in packs for immigrants just like him, he said. “Like wolves.”

For a few perilous hours over two days this week, the mob owned the streets of Chemnitz, where anger exploded after word spread that an Iraqi and a Syrian asylum seeker were suspected in a knife attack that killed a German man early Sunday.

In the past nazi rioters were vastly outnumbered by counter-protesters. This time there 8000 people in the mob, in a city of 250,000, and the police folded.

376
JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:34:33am

re: #369 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Hillary looked so relaxed and happy while he was speaking. She had her hands in her pockets (we love our pockets!) and was just laughing and smiling.

377
Belafon  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:35:22am

re: #373 Jay C

From what I understand, he was supported by Russia.

378
JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:37:35am
379
gocart mozart  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:39:04am
380
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:39:09am

re: #377 Belafon

From what I understand, he was supported by Russia.

That explains the bomb. The Kremlin owns the trademark on defenestration.

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unproven innocence  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:39:38am
382
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:41:03am

383
The Vicious Babushka  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:42:27am
384
Single-handed sailor  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:42:40am

Nazi bank

385
Kragar  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:42:43am
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Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:44:07am

re: #385 Kragar

[Embedded content]

What a fucking moron.

387
Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:44:47am

Trump is his own worst enemy.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:46:28am
389
Kragar  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:46:40am

re: #387 Varek Raith

Trump is his own worst enemy.

He should challenge him to a duel.

390
dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:47:07am

re: #384 Single-handed sailor

Bank of America freezing accounts of customers suspected of not being US citizens
Nazi bank

my understanding is
you cant lie to a bank when you open an account
you dont need to be a citizen to have a bank account

391
Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:47:58am

re: #389 Kragar

He should challenge him to a duel.

Bolters at one pace!

392
lawhawk  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:48:06am

re: #372 Lidane

393
unproven innocence  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:48:24am

re: #384 Single-handed sailor

Nazi bank

Hard to hire lawyer in such circumstances. So evil.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:50:11am

re: #385 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Trump’s problem is that this didn’t come from Bloomberg. Reading Dale’s tweets, it looks like it came from Trump’s aides.

The calls are coming from INSIDE THE BUILDING!!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:50:16am

re: #385 Kragar

He keeps confessing to his failures.

396
Lidane  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:50:30am

re: #385 Kragar

The Toronto Star reporter who wrote the story addressed Trump’s complaints in a Twitter thread:

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:51:01am

re: #391 Varek Raith

Maybe multi-meltas at one pace?

398
b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:51:24am

re: #392 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

heh

399
Skip Intro  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:51:52am

re: #385 Kragar

I thought Daniel Dale reported what he said, not Bloomberg.

400
Varek Raith  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:52:04am

re: #397 Sufficient unto the day…

Maybe multi-meltas at one pace?

Metal.

401
dangerman  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:53:52am

re: #385 Kragar

So you confirm that is what you said.

You do realize that just because you say “This is off the record”, that doesn’t mean the other person has to agree, right?

Absence of Malice
not exactly the same scenario - i just love the movie:

M: Jim, listen, I’m sorry about this, but I have a story that says you’re suspected of taking bribes. I would like to hear your comment.

J: You’ve got your information mixed up. Either that or you’re fishing.
(She writes notes)
J: Wait a minute, now, that was off the record.

M: My question was on the record.

J: No comment godammit. Now slow down and tell me what you’re talking about.

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JordanRules  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:54:20am
403
Kragar  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:54:41am

re: #397 Sufficient unto the day…

Maybe multi-meltas at one pace?

Hand Flamers. It’s the only way to be sure

404
Ferdinand  Aug 31, 2018 • 11:58:44am

re: #326 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oklahoma Republican Suggests Turning Kids Over to ICE If They Don’t Speak English

What about all the white kids who speak only Goober, or some other weird dialect from the godforsaken hinterland?

This is from 2017.

405
Eventual Carrion  Aug 31, 2018 • 12:16:04pm

re: #373 Jay C

Oh, swell: more good world news….. ////

At least the late Mr. Zakharchenko didn’t “fall out a window” as these things are usually reported.
Or did he accidentally fall out a window onto a bomb….?

The bomb threw the window into him.

406
can't think of a decent username  Aug 31, 2018 • 12:21:02pm

re: #335 sagehen

He’ll do it at Joel Osteen’s church; and Joel will fill it for him.

They won’t do it in a stadium or a church.

They’ll do it in Jasper.

407
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2018 • 1:01:48pm

re: #384 Single-handed sailor

Bank of America freezing accounts of customers suspected of not being US citizens www.

now in most of europe you need to show an ID that indicates your citizenship/legal residency status before opening a bank account.

again, anybody for making Social Security cards biometric photo ID including info on your legal status?

would end bullshit harassment like this

408
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Aug 31, 2018 • 2:05:17pm

re: #234 Single-handed sailor

[Embedded content]

Yeah, right.


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