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Bass Reeves  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:38:43pm

Can we get back to that “know nothing screamer” part?

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:39:43pm

The shoes were noticed.

Noice!

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:40:31pm

re: #1 Bass Reeves

Can we get back to that “know nothing screamer” part?

Ask him which Dems he likes. It’s pretty instructive. LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:41:13pm
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mmmirele  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:42:07pm

Update on my brother.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:43:32pm

re: #5 mmmirele

Update on my brother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:48:34pm
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calochortus  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:49:22pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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The shoes were noticed.

Noice!

Hmm, a memoir from a relatively young politician a couple years before a presidential election. I wonder what this might mean?

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calochortus  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:50:17pm

re: #5 mmmirele

Update on my brother.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:50:59pm

Trying again on the new thread.

re: #214 Brian J.

I imagine they’ll be perfectly happy to let Pressley damage Democratic candidates in other districts they could win. That Ocasio woman has taken ten weeks to go from savior of the Democratic Party to the G. Harrold Carswell defense.

“That Ocasio woman” has a name, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. As for her being the “saviour of the Democratic Party” - who was pushing that? The magic balance fairyist media repeating Republican talking points to scare their base about evul sochulists.

I guarantee there is no one in my whole area of my state who knows who she is, and many across the country already think Democrats are socialists and anti-American anyway here.

Her missteps pale in comparison to Trump’s. She is a first-time House candidate; all candidates make mistakes. Every candidate. Every election.

There seem to be a lot of people who want to pull “that Ocasio woman” apart though. I suppose this is the day Trump became President.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:51:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:52:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:54:11pm
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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:54:49pm
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electrotek  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:54:55pm

Goddamn she’s so fucking stupid she doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up:

She needs to take a page from Riz Ahmed, honestly.

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Brian J.  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:55:30pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

Trying again on the new thread.

“That Ocasio woman” has a name, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. As for her being the “saviour of the Democratic Party” - who was pushing that? The magic balance fairyist media repeating Republican talking points to scare their base about evul sochulists.

I guarantee there is no one in my whole area of my state who knows who she is, and many across the country already think Democrats are socialists and anti-American anyway here.

Her missteps pale in comparison to Trump’s. She is a first-time House candidate; all candidates make mistakes. Every candidate. Every election.

There seem to be a lot of people who want to pull “that Ocasio woman” apart though. I suppose this is the day Trump became President.

So you don’t believe Congressional candidates should be scrutinized if they are heavily promoted as left-wing. Good to know. That article I linked to was from a BernieBro political reporter, David Roberts, who has been a big promoted of Ocasio and other “Justice Democrats,” and who was finally forced to recognize after repeated idiocies that Ocasio is not right bright. You can only write “what s/he meant to say was” articles so many times before that becomes clear.

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Bass Reeves  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:56:04pm

re: #3 JordanRules

Ask him which Dems he likes. It’s pretty instructive. LOL

I mean, I do understand (and have argued) for the importance of having Dems in Congress with seniority, I’m just in awe at the choice of words. Pressley seems kind of like the party faithful tbh. Just younger, black, and female. Sort of like that dependable Democratic voter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:57:06pm

re: #5 mmmirele

Update on my brother.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:58:06pm

O_o

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:58:20pm

re: #17 Bass Reeves

I mean, I do understand (and have argued) for the importance of having Dems in Congress with seniority, I’m just in awe at the choice of words. Pressley seems kind of like the party faithful tbh. Just younger, black, and female. Sort of like that dependable Democratic voter.

Same and you are right to key in on the language used. It gives away the game.

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 6:58:31pm

re: #16 Brian J.

I was done with your analysis at “screamer”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:00:33pm

re: #21 Belafon

I was done with your analysis at “screamer”.

Credit where it’s due, that’s farther than I made it. I scrolled right on past.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:01:22pm

re: #1 Bass Reeves

Can we get back to that “know nothing screamer” part?

It’s like Ben Sasse’s astute observation today about hysteria at the Kavanaugh hearing…

blech

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:02:16pm

re: #16 Brian J.

So you don’t believe Congressional candidates should be scrutinized if they are heavily promoted as left-wing. Good to know. That article I linked to was from a BernieBro political reporter, David Roberts, who has been a big promoted of Ocasio and other “Justice Democrats,” and who was finally forced to recognize after repeated idiocies that Ocasio is not right bright. You can only write “what s/he meant to say was” articles so many times before that becomes clear.

It would be nice if anyone was picking apart all the incredibly stupid things GOP congressional candidates say on a daily basis.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:02:38pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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“Alright, we’ll take the n——ers and chinks, BUT NOT THE IRISH!”

Well, we’re making America great again. Now we’re in the early part of the 1800’s, before the Civil War. Pretty great, right?

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can't think of a decent username  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:04:01pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

“That Ocasio woman” has a name, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. As for her being the “saviour of the Democratic Party” - who was pushing that? The magic balance fairyist media repeating Republican talking points to scare their base about evul sochulists.

I guarantee there is no one in my whole area of my state who knows who she is, and many across the country already think Democrats are socialists and anti-American anyway here.

Her missteps pale in comparison to Trump’s. She is a first-time House candidate; all candidates make mistakes. Every candidate. Every election.

There seem to be a lot of people who want to pull “that Ocasio woman” apart though. I suppose this is the day Trump became President.

I think she’s fantastic. She isn’t one of those “I hate Democrats” Democrats — she embraces being a Democrat and is willing to work with other Democrats. And I agree with more than enough of her policy preferences. New York will be lucky to have her.

Some people hate her because she’s young and pretty, and because she has a Bernie connection. She’s not a Chapo creep, and I say we need more like her.

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Bass Reeves  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:05:04pm

re: #16 Brian J.

So you don’t believe Congressional candidates should be scrutinized if they are heavily promoted as left-wing. Good to know. That article I linked to was from a BernieBro political reporter, David Roberts, who has been a big promoted of Ocasio and other “Justice Democrats,” and who was finally forced to recognize after repeated idiocies that Ocasio is not right bright. You can only write “what s/he meant to say was” articles so many times before that becomes clear.

Yeah but…what does that have to do with Pressley?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:05:15pm
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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:05:50pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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can't think of a decent username  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:09:48pm

re: #1 Bass Reeves

Can we get back to that “know nothing screamer” part?

Ugh, I just went back and read that.

If someone’s going to heap hate and derision on people in politics because they’re young and female, that person is not needed anywhere close to the Democratic Party. Best to find another party that hates young people and women (and people of color).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:14:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:14:51pm

re: #16 Brian J.

So you don’t believe Congressional candidates should be scrutinized if they are heavily promoted as left-wing. Good to know. That article I linked to was from a BernieBro political reporter, David Roberts, who has been a big promoted of Ocasio and other “Justice Democrats,” and who was finally forced to recognize after repeated idiocies that Ocasio is not right bright. You can only write “what s/he meant to say was” articles so many times before that becomes clear.

Yes I believe congressional candidates should be scrutinised, regardless of wing.

The voters in her district scrutinised both candidates in the Democratic primary in her district and found their representative not supportive of their concerns.

As for Ocasio-Cortez being “not that bright” I cannot speak to that. She studied economics and international relations in college (meaning her education is far better than mine) … I presume after the current conservative cruelty burning down our economy and relations, we will need more than a few people who understand those issues.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:14:53pm

re: #30 can’t think of a decent username

Ugh, I just went back and read that.

If someone’s going to heap hate and derision on people in politics because they’re young and female, that person is not needed anywhere close to the Democratic Party. Best to find another party that hates young people and women (and people of color).

Capuano isn’t a bad guy, but he has been in Congress 20 years, and it really is past time for more women and people of color to be involved in the government as elected representatives.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:15:50pm

Thread…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:17:01pm

another one to keep around:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:17:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:18:02pm

re: #26 can’t think of a decent username

Off-topic: I think you have a fine username.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:18:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:18:31pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Rafael really is one tone deaf motherfucker isn’t he?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:19:35pm

re: #38 JordanRules

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Good for him for placing state above party.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:19:48pm

re: #38 JordanRules

Kris Kobach is getting the Mike Pence treatment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:20:23pm

re: #30 can’t think of a decent username

Ugh, I just went back and read that.

If someone’s going to heap hate and derision on people in politics because they’re young and female, that person is not needed anywhere close to the Democratic Party. Best to find another party that hates young people and women (and people of color).

We already have a party representing that demographic: it’s called the Republican Party.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:20:51pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Kris Kobach is getting the Mike Pence treatment.

I hope he ends up with the George Ryan- jail time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:21:59pm
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can't think of a decent username  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:22:01pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic: I think you have a fine username.

Feh, I used to have my actual name/email address here until I found out you could pick a username! Then I picked a couple wildly weird and uninspiring names, then gave up ‘til I can think of something interesting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:23:32pm
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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:23:34pm

re: #34 JordanRules

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If the doctrines of God’s Word are not uncompromisingly reasserted and defended at these points, there is every reason to anticipate that these dangerous ideas and corrupted moral values will spread their influence into other realms of biblical doctrines and principles.

They do realize we only eat pig because of the strange interpretation of a dream in the Bible, right?

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:25:33pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Imagine, a party that might actually represent America. There will be horror.

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Jay C  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:26:57pm

re: #16 Brian J.

So you don’t believe Congressional candidates should be scrutinized if they are heavily promoted as left-wing. Good to know. That article I linked to was from a BernieBro political reporter, David Roberts, who has been a big promoted of Ocasio and other “Justice Democrats,” and who was finally forced to recognize after repeated idiocies that Ocasio is not right bright. You can only write “what s/he meant to say was” articles so many times before that becomes clear.

And moreover: “scrutinizing” Ayanna Pressley’s resume shows something like a classic progression for a would-be politician: aide/staffer to established pols: election to local office: move up to freshman Representative - if she does a good job for her constituents (and coming up in Boston politics, that’s one lesson only true dummies ignore), she’s probably a lock for several re-elections: and/or a Senate seat possibly someday. Hardly a “know-nothing screamer”…

You might have something of a point about seniority and experience; but unless you think the Democratic bloc in the next Congress is going to consist of 230 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezes, there is likely be enough of that there anyway.

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bmoak  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:28:40pm

re: #38 JordanRules

Unfortunately, Laura Kelly is screwed no matter how badly Kobach flounders, as Kansas has an independent millionaire businessman self-funding vanity candidate on the ballot who is going to suck up all the votes of any Kansas Republicans and independents who can’t bring themselves to vote for Kobach.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:29:27pm

Awww!

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:30:09pm

re: #50 bmoak

Unfortunately, Laura Kelly is screwed no matter how badly Kobach flounders, as Kansas has an independent millionaire businessman self-funding vanity candidate on the ballot who is going to suck up all the votes of any Kansas Republicans and independents who can’t bring themselves to vote for Kobach.

Don’t quite see how that’s a bad thing. That’s pretty much how Bill Clinton won in 1992.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:30:10pm

re: #38 JordanRules

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Kobach would like to be the first fascist President of the US. I hope Kansans end his career right there.

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fern01  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:30:51pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought Maggie had given up tweeting - just maybe she is seeing the blue wave & thinks she will be well and truly called out for the quisling she is.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:31:05pm

re: #53 Big Beautiful Door

Kobach would like to be the first fascist President of the US. I hope Kansans end his career right there.

He wouldn’t be the first tho.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:31:23pm

re: #53 Big Beautiful Door

Kobach would like to be the first fascist President of the US. I hope Kansans end his career right there.

Kobach reminds me of Cucinnelli here in Va. I’m hoping Kansans send him off the way we did Cucci.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:32:09pm
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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:32:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:35:55pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Respect huh? Is that what you taught your daughter or how about your sons with animals? Fuck off Mike.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:37:14pm

re: #58 JordanRules

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He’s an enemy of freedom everywhere and we elected him. I know Russia helped but this should have been a landslide.

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BogeyMon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:37:48pm

Interesting times we live in, and here in gerrymandered NC all we can do is canvass and try to GOTV

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:38:03pm

re: #45 can’t think of a decent username

Feh, I used to have my actual name/email address here until I found out you could pick a username! Then I picked a couple wildly weird and uninspiring names, then gave up ‘til I can think of something interesting.

I can’t wait to see what avatar you might pick. /s

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:38:41pm

re: #61 BogeyMon

Interesting times we live in, and here in gerrymandered NC all we can do is canvass and try to GOTV

Yep. I’m in Greensboro.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:43:06pm

re: #50 bmoak

Unfortunately, Laura Kelly is screwed no matter how badly Kobach flounders, as Kansas has an independent millionaire businessman self-funding vanity candidate on the ballot who is going to suck up all the votes of any Kansas Republicans and independents who can’t bring themselves to vote for Kobach.

She’s screwed because there is a candidate dividing the conservative vote? I admit I don’t follow that reasoning, unless every independent voter in Kansas is a conservative.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:43:11pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:43:22pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That sucks that the court is knowingly going to let the GOP violate voters’ constitutional rights AGAIN.

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BogeyMon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:43:46pm

the house took blue Asheville all the way down to Gastonia, and we got stuck with the TP Mark Meadows… we are fucked!

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:44:12pm

I am confused about one aspect of the Tillman discussion from downstairs:

re: #187 Targetpractice

Tillman was anti-Iraq War, anti-Bush and was planning to meet with Noam Chomsky for an interview after his tour of duty had ended. He was shot three times in the head at close range, his uniform and body armor burned by his squad, and his journal from his time in Iraq remains missing to this day. The Army deliberately lied about his death, even ordering every soldier who met with his family or the press to perpetuate the lie, and congratulated each other in emails about the success in getting the public to buy that lie. The Army even falsified the citations for the medals he received posthumously to claim he was involved in enemy action and so his death was “accidental.”

In other words, Pat Tillman is an excellent example of how a well-run bureaucracy can indeed fabricate the truth to make murderers into heroes. The very sort of evil that Kaepernick has been protesting for years.

This seems to suggest that he was deliberately targeted rather than being a victim of friendly fire. Am I misinterpreting this?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:44:18pm

re: #66 Big Beautiful Door

That sucks that the court is knowingly going to let the GOP violate voters’ constitutional rights AGAIN.

If they can’t hold an election in line with the Constitution, why are we seating their representatives?

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teleskiguy  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:45:41pm
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can't think of a decent username  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:45:54pm

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

I can’t wait to see what avatar you might pick. /s

I mostly don’t like avatars on web forums, so I’ll probably just stick with the football no matter what. :)

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:46:01pm
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calochortus  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:46:10pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

If they can’t hold an election in line with the Constitution, why are we seating their representatives?

There was some discussion of holding their election late, but I don’t know if that is a serious option.

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William Lewis  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:46:59pm

re: #34 JordanRules

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That is an utterly despicable statement that repents of being Christian. I’m sorry but I am not going to consider anyone who signed either this or the Nashville Statement to be Christian. Perhaps there is a hint of No True Scotsman here but I feel they have looked at the Bible and chosen to walk away from it and moral living.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:47:03pm

re: #5 mmmirele

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BogeyMon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:47:18pm

Mouse, did you get power back?

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:52:21pm

Time for some rube griftin.

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BogeyMon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:53:59pm

William Lewis, I should probably make this a private comment, but I have been racking my brains, looking at pics, and can’t remember a M-8 scout vehicle parked at Illesheim… where was it? I was there ‘82 - ‘84. in ‘84 1-13 moved all the mechanics to HQ Co. Help!

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ObserverArt  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:55:19pm

re: #58 JordanRules

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Fuck you Trump.

Remember the Boston Tea Party.

This has got to be the most ignorant person to lead a major country.

And it shows how fake he is about the flag when he doesn’t even understand the roots of the revolution that started this country and allowed that flag.

Let’s dump Trump overboard!

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:55:55pm

re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused about one aspect of the Tillman discussion from downstairs:

This seems to suggest that he was deliberately targeted rather than being a victim of friendly fire. Am I misinterpreting this?

I believe that’s the implication.

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meteor  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:56:00pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

You can’t beat people for speaking. The First Amendment gives us a right to peaceably assemble and petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:56:04pm
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meteor  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:57:00pm

re: #82 JordanRules

He was already crazy.

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BogeyMon  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:58:01pm

the wife and I were in the Dominican Republic in May, met a lot of Brits and they all wanted video of us saying “Trump is a Cunt” we obliged!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:59:47pm

re: #73 calochortus

There was some discussion of holding their election late, but I don’t know if that is a serious option.

It was; nothing requires the general election be held in November. Now the GOP gets to reap the benefits of their illegal conduct another two years.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 7:59:56pm

MSNBC’s Chris Hayes is being flamed on Twitter over dismissing the white supremacist signal given by a Trump staffer behind Judge Kavanaugh:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:01:18pm

re: #71 can’t think of a decent username

I mostly don’t like avatars on web forums, so I’ll probably just stick with the football no matter what. :)

A green football is an avatar, just sayin’ /s

What you could do if you dislike avatars is to make a graphic in Paint or something consisting solely of blank space, then upload that as your avatar.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:01:34pm

re: #82 JordanRules

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Reminder that sleepy eyes can be anti-semetic.

Stephen Miller was likely not under any fire from Woodward revelations. If anybody got his ear today and got to kinda run our country, it was him. This can change day to day. But today seems like a Miller day.

Zina Bash works with Miller.

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:02:30pm

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

It was; nothing requires the general election be held in November. Now the GOP gets to reap the benefits of their illegal conduct another two years.

Pushing it down the road to the next two years is what Republicans here in Texas have been doing to the Texas Supreme Court rulings on education funding for the last 20 years.

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William Lewis  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:03:02pm

re: #78 BogeyMon

William Lewis, I should probably make this a private comment, but I have been racking my brains, looking at pics, and can’t remember a M-8 scout vehicle parked at Illesheim… where was it? I was there ‘82 - ‘84. in ‘84 1-13 moved all the mechanics to HQ Co. Help!

My memory is over in front of BN HQ. I’ll try to see if I can find some of my old photos.

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Jay C  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:03:04pm

re: #81 meteor

You can’t beat people for speaking.

And I’m sure there are a lot of people in this country who view that dictum as a regrettable glitch in the operation of “real democracy”.

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fern01  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:03:35pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

MSNBC’s Chris Hayes is being flamed on Twitter over dismissing the white supremacist signal given by a Trump staffer behind Judge Kavanaugh:

[Embedded content]

Watch the video - Hayes obviously did not.

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ObserverArt  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:03:37pm

Lawrence O’Donnell was talking with Fred Guttenberg. Lawrence said Fred has a nice introduction that he heard Fred give to him at a rally earlier.

Part of it is Fred saying he is the father of Parkland shooting victim Jaime Guttenberg.

The second he mentioned her name and she was a victim Kavanaugh turned and walked away.

Fucker. All he had to do is shake hands and say he was sorry or something.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:04:02pm

re: #74 William Lewis

That is an utterly despicable statement that repents of being Christian. I’m sorry but I am not going to consider anyone who signed either this or the Nashville Statement to be Christian. Perhaps there is a hint of No True Scotsman here but I feel they have looked at the Bible and chosen to walk away from it and moral living.

The sad truth is that statement is what an overwhelming majority of Christians believe. The same group that cast 81% of their votes for Trump.

Just like Trump, the real god they worship is the unchecked selfishness of Ayn Rand!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:04:15pm

re: #76 BogeyMon

Mouse, did you get power back?

Partially. While we were at the conference in Denver, the electrician was here and rewired part of our house. We now have many new plug sockets and some of the lights are working again.

We also have a new circuit breaker panel replacing the knife switch that served as our mains switch.

There is still work to do, but much of it is now completed.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:05:04pm

re: #93 ObserverArt

Here’s video.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:05:49pm

re: #57 Joe Bacon 🌹

Upding for Huck Sinn.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:05:51pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that statement is what an overwhelming majority of Christians believe. The same group that cast 81% of their votes for Trump.

Just like Trump, the real god they worship is the unchecked selfishness of Ayn Rand!

Their God is money, and Rand is its profit.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:05:58pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

The sad truth is that statement is what an overwhelming majority of Christians believe. The same group that cast 81% of their votes for Trump.

Just like Trump, the real god they worship is the unchecked selfishness of Ayn Rand!

White Christians.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:07:26pm

re: #99 JordanRules

White Christians.

Oh I think “White KKKristians” is much more apropos!

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ObserverArt  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:10:07pm

About the ‘white power’ hand signal thing.

I saw a post elsewhere saying that if you fold your arms and place them on your lap like she is doing for an extended time, sometimes you do the circle thing with your fingers as a natural reaction. In time that becomes comfortable for your thumb and index.

I have to admit, when I tried it quickly, I ended up with my fingers like that. It surprised me. I did it naturally. And, I did it right off. I’ve never thought about it.

Disclaimer: This was written as nothing more than an observation. I am not a white power advocate. : )

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Cheechako  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:10:22pm

COS Kelly did not call trump “an idiot”. He actually said trump was “a fucking idiot”.

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Bass Reeves  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:10:32pm

re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter

Wikipedia entry doesn’t exactly say he was deliberately targeted for being him, it might be more correct to say that the second autopsy concluded that he was shot from much closer than originally determined. The CID investigation basically says he was fired on in a case of mistaken identity, which is unfortunately kind of understandable. Afghanistan is dark at night. All of the ambient light you take for granted doesn’t really exist in most places around there.

The immediate burning of the body and forcing people to lie is less understandable.

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William Lewis  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:11:06pm

re: #99 JordanRules

White Christians.

Evangelical white ones. I do know more than a few decent Christians even out here in rural WI but at best the Church is going to contract to a percentage or two of the population. Then, perhaps, some of us who are left can demonstrate the real good news by deeds, not words.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:11:51pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

A green football is an avatar, just sayin’ /s

What you could do if you dislike avatars is to make a graphic in Paint or something consisting solely of blank space, then upload that as your avatar.

The tweet he deleted made me so mad. It was a clip of Eddie Murphy from an old 80’s film giving the actual OK symbol. It was a big joke to Chris. He got dragged.

Then he comes back with this tweet, but by then the video was already out and he still doesn’t really seem to get it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:11:55pm

Nice to see Shithead Scott Lively losing in a landslide to Baker in Massachusetts!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:18:25pm

re: #105 JordanRules

The tweet he deleted made me so mad. It was a clip of Eddie Murphy from an old 80’s film giving the actual OK symbol. It was a big joke to Chris. He got dragged.

Then he comes back with this tweet, but by then the video was already out and he still doesn’t really seem to get it.

Yup, I saw Mr. Hayes’s original tweet. He either is riding that magic balance fairy horse for all it’s worth, or he really doesn’t understand what’s going on here. He is deservedly being dragged on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:20:10pm

re: #104 William Lewis

Evangelical white ones. I do know more than a few decent Christians even out here in rural WI but at best the Church is going to contract to a percentage or two of the population. Then, perhaps, some of us who are left can demonstrate the real good news by deeds, not words.

There aren’t any Evangelical churches in my area, which went overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump. It’s not just Evangelicals.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:23:54pm
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mmmirele  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:24:48pm

re: #74 William Lewis

That is an utterly despicable statement that repents of being Christian. I’m sorry but I am not going to consider anyone who signed either this or the Nashville Statement to be Christian. Perhaps there is a hint of No True Scotsman here but I feel they have looked at the Bible and chosen to walk away from it and moral living.

These are generally the same people (Statement on Social Justice and the Gospel and the Nashville Statement). The first signer on the statement tells you where this is going—it’s John MacArthur, who is on record as stating he doesn’t know any “authentic” evangelical church that has a problem with racism.

christianpost.com

MacArthur is a g*d-d*mn*d liar. He’s 79 years old. He knows for damn sure there has been and continues to be racism in the Evangelical church. He’s also got a serious problem. His Master’s University is currently on probation by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC). You can read the letter and the (much longer) report at this link.

wthrockmorton.com

My buddy Dee Parsons, one of the ladies who runs The Wartburg Watch blog, got hold of a recording MacArthur made recently, basically trying to play down the accreditation issue with his seminary students.

thewartburgwatch.com

The implication of losing one’s top tier accreditation cannot be underestimated. Many of the students who go to Master’s University receive student loans. Without accreditation, Master’s would lose all those students. And it doesn’t have the money to replace what might be lost; the accrediting committee had some raised eyebrows about an expected financial loss.

I recognized several of the other main signers. They are all jackasses, every single one of them.

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Lidane  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:24:49pm

Ted Cruz is a miserable, dishonest asshole, part eleventy billion:

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:26:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:27:36pm

How You Know They’re Dumber Than Bean Dip (Goes to Juanita Jean’s, the World’s Most Dangerous Beauty Salon, more at the link):

I gotta tell you that nothing - not one damn thing - more easily proves that right-wingers are dumb than their reaction to things they want to protest.

I am told that we shouldn’t call them dumb because it makes them feel bad. Crap, them being dumb makes me feel real bad. They are destroying my country for one reason - they are dumb.

Look, if I don’t like Chik-fil-a’s political views, I don’t go to Chik-fil-a to eat. What I don’t do is go to their restaurant, buy something to eat, and then take it outside and burn it or stomp on it or some damn thing. I understand that means they got my money and I got diddle-squat. I’m not dumb.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:30:01pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: mobile.twitter.com ]

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:30:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:30:34pm

re: #114 JordanRules

Already deleted.

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electrotek  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:34:12pm

Her Twitter bio is a real piece of work:

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freetoken  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:36:41pm

re: #74 William Lewis

That is an utterly despicable statement that repents of being Christian. I’m sorry but I am not going to consider anyone who signed either this or the Nashville Statement to be Christian. Perhaps there is a hint of No True Scotsman here but I feel they have looked at the Bible and chosen to walk away from it and moral living.

As has been demonstrated century after century, “the Bible” is whatever anyone wants to make of it.

Contemporary American evangelicalism is dominated by post-Reconstructionism American politics. It just is, and for good reason, as the aftermath of the Civil War has greatly defined what we think of as “America”.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:38:09pm

re: #116 Eclectic Cyborg

Already deleted.

It was just the Soledad tweet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:38:58pm

re: #118 freetoken

As has been demonstrated century after century, “the Bible” is whatever anyone wants to make of it.

Contemporary American evangelicalism is dominated by post-Reconstructionism American politics. It just is, and for good reason, as the aftermath of the Civil War has greatly defined what we think of as “America”.

The Bible was used by every Confederate state to justify slavery as their reason to leave the Union.

It was also used to justify Jim Crow.

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electrotek  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:44:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:51:09pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2018 • 8:53:36pm

re: #122 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Right, yeah, just like Vladimir Putin is a staunch defender of a free press.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:00:05pm

Here’s one to report on Twitter - that is, if Twitter will ban a Nazi …

Behind the privacy bar.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:04:22pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s one to report on Twitter - that is, if Twitter will ban a Nazi …

Behind the privacy bar.

You don’t seriously believe our dear Jack would bar a Nazi, do you?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:05:00pm

Chinese kindergarten principal fired after hiring a pole dancer for a back-to-school ceremony.

yahoo.com

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mmmirele  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:07:00pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

Chinese kindergarten principal fired after hiring a pole dancer for a back-to-school ceremony.

yahoo.com

I heard about this on the BBC Monday and I couldn’t stop laughing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:10:49pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

Chinese kindergarten principal fired after hiring a pole dancer for a back-to-school ceremony.

yahoo.com

What would have ever made him think: “Hey, this would be a great idea!”?

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Varek Raith  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:11:29pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

What would have ever made him think: “Hey, this would be a great idea!”?

Her.
o_O

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:15:25pm

bbc.com

South Carolina woman charged with murder, accused of poisoning her husband with eyedrops.

In the past, she’d shot him in the head with a crossbow while he slept, claiming it was an accident. Police are reopening that investigation.

The couple had been together for eight years, friends told WSOC-TV. Others added that she was known to attend the neighbourhood Bible study group.

The toxicology report showed he’d ingested the drug which reduces redness in the eyes. When ingested, it causes seizures, coma, and death.

He fell down the stairs of his house after the poisoning, which killed him.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:17:14pm
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Varek Raith  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:18:13pm

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

bbc.com

South Carolina woman charged with murder, accused of poisoning her husband with eyedrops.

In the past, she’d shot him in the head with a crossbow while he slept, claiming it was an accident. Police are reopening that investigation.

The toxicology report showed he’d ingested the drug which reduces redness in the eyes. When ingested, it causes seizures, coma, and death.

He fell down the stairs of his house after the poisoning, which killed him.

O_o

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:21:37pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

No matter how many times I report a thug to @jack, he does Na-Zi what’s wrong…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:31:52pm

Tropical Storm Gordon just made landfall:

Tropical Storm Gordon Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL072018
1030 PM CDT Tue Sep 04 2018

…CENTER OF GORDON MAKES LANDFALL JUST WEST OF THE
ALABAMA-MISSISSIPPI BORDER…

National Weather Service Doppler radar indicates that Gordon made
landfall around 1015 PM CDT (0315 UTC) just west of the
Alabama-Mississippi border with estimated maximum sustained winds of
70 mph (110 km/h).

SUMMARY OF 1015 PM CDT…0315 UTC…INFORMATION
—————————————————————————-
LOCATION…30.4N 88.4W
ABOUT 30 MI…50 KM E OF BILOXI MISSISSIPPI
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…70 MPH…110 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NW OR 315 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…997 MB…29.44 INCHES

nhc.noaa.gov?

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Targetpractice  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:32:00pm

re: #103 Bass Reeves

Wikipedia entry doesn’t exactly say he was deliberately targeted for being him, it might be more correct to say that the second autopsy concluded that he was shot from much closer than originally determined. The CID investigation basically says he was fired on in a case of mistaken identity, which is unfortunately kind of understandable. Afghanistan is dark at night. All of the ambient light you take for granted doesn’t really exist in most places around there.

The immediate burning of the body and forcing people to lie is less understandable.

Sorry, I had to duck out to grab a shower and get to work. But yes, the implication of the evidence is that the Army either knew Tillman had been “fragged” or feared the public reaching that conclusion once the evidence was revealed. The destruction/disappearance of evidence, altering official reports and citations, forcing soldiers to repeat lies to maintain the fiction, and the lies told to the family when they pretty much already knew the truth. If his death wasn’t a deliberate act, the Army certainly did everything in their power to make it look like it was.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:46:36pm
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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:49:30pm

This is his takeaway??

Pathetic.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:50:39pm
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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:53:19pm

re: #131 JordanRules

I wonder if she’s a screamer? //

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:53:54pm
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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:56:06pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

I think my damning with faint praise may have been too subtle this time.

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Teukka  Sep 4, 2018 • 9:56:33pm

Recommended reading.

Thread Reader/Unrolled

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:06:43pm

re: #61 BogeyMon

Interesting times we live in, and here in gerrymandered NC all we can do is canvass and try to GOTV

Gerrymanders work against the gerrymandering party in a wave election … seats which would normally be considered safe are also flipped.

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Belafon  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:11:05pm

So this district did follow the same pattern that AOC won on, namely an incumbant who had never been challenged seriously for years.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:11:39pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:12:54pm

Couple this with today’s xenophobia, and we’re currently living in the prequel of Children of Men

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:15:34pm

re: #144 Belafon

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So this district did follow the same pattern that AOC won on, namely an incumbant who had never been challenged seriously for years.

Like AOC, there was a change in demographics of the community but, unlike AOC, Pressley was really part of the establishment and had substantial experience.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:19:00pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Couple this with today’s xenophobia, and we’re currently living in the prequel of Children of Men

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Except opposite in that our fertility crisis is too many people having babies.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:38:22pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

Like AOC, there was a change in demographics of the community but, unlike AOC, Pressley was really part of the establishment and had substantial experience.

Yep which meant he took her serious and campaigned hard against her and had a debate.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:40:06pm

re: #142 Teukka
That was a great thread.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:40:52pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I can only rather dimly remember the early 1970’s, but I do get the sense that plastics weren’t as commonplace as they are today. Glass bottles were still used quite frequently for many products, for example.

I’m sure there were other things too.

Being far from well-read on the hypothesis that plastics may be behind the falling sperm count (and from the tweet, I’d say that’s a pretty dramatic fall in 45 years) is there anything to read on the subject?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:44:51pm

re: #148 goddamnedfrank

Except opposite in that our fertility crisis is too many people having babies.

But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a long-term trend that could dramatically reduce birth rates and seriously disrupt human populations. We know that currently most developed countries have birth rates below replacement level, generally because of decisions by couples to limit family size. But there may also be a component due to decreased fertility as a result of environmental factors.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:46:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:47:04pm

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I can only rather dimly remember the early 1970’s, but I do get the sense that plastics weren’t as commonplace as they are today. Glass bottles were still used quite frequently for many products, for example.

I’m sure there were other things too.

Being far from well-read on the hypothesis that plastics may be behind the falling sperm count (and from the tweet, I’d say that’s a pretty dramatic fall in 45 years) is there anything to read on the subject?

All sorts of things were made of plastic, even then. Teflon coated virtually every piece of cookware. All sorts of toys for children were (and are) made of plastic. As noted in the article sex toys (including then) are made primarily of plastic.

My typewriter (manufactured in 1914) has plastic keys.

Non-existent environmental regulations ensured that plastics manufacturers did not have to do anything at all.

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JordanRules  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:51:32pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 4, 2018 • 10:52:00pm

re: #143 Anymouse 🌹

Gerrymanders work against the gerrymandering party in a wave election … seats which would normally be considered safe are also flipped.

It’s not that they work against the gerrymandering party, it’s that they can be overcome in a wave election and, as you said, safe seats can fall.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 4, 2018 • 11:01:42pm

Oh my, Five Dollar Feminist over at Wonkette is busy blistering Papdopoulos’s lawyer:

The George Papadopoulos Story: It’s Not Illegal If You’re White! Or if your wife is a hot blond. That’s just the law.

She goes paragraph-by-paragraph through his lawyer’s sentencing recommendation, with the usual level of snark.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 4, 2018 • 11:59:58pm

Why are there only 43 No votes? Some Democrats need to be replaced.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 12:05:24am

re: #158 Single-handed sailor

Why are there only 43 No votes? Some Democrats need to be replaced.

Or at least a cluebat.

They may have not had the chance to make a public statement. We’ll see.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 12:09:47am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 5, 2018 • 12:30:25am

Yes, he has receipts.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 5, 2018 • 12:57:55am

re: #153 JordanRules

It is almost like Google is a business, but wants to appear like they aren’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 1:21:54am

re: #109 Anymouse 🌹

Since we’re evaluating Supreme Court Justices based on their personal habits now, can we replace “Kavanaugh the carpool dad is a great guy” with “Kavanaugh is a dangerous fool to rack up $200,000 of debt in fucking baseball tickets…and that’s only if we take him at his word”?

typical next-door-neighbor, car pool-dad behavior

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 1:25:23am

re: #162 Aussie Apocalypse

It is almost like Google is a business, but wants to appear like they aren’t.

they want us to believe that they are some sort of public service

and have been generally successful at promoting that image

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 1:26:00am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

typical next-door-neighbor, car pool-dad behavior

Who hasn’t bought $200,000 worth of baseball tickets because they are a “good guy?”

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Teukka  Sep 5, 2018 • 1:46:30am

There is a story emerging here in Sweden where the Sweden Democrats (SD) are beginning to get support from the evangelical right wing in the country, to “Stop the Antichrists dismantling of Sweden”.

*gags*

aftonbladet.se (Swedish)

expressen.se (Swedish)

Keep an eye out for the name Lars Enarson.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 1:54:21am

re: #166 Teukka

We must never cease to thank the Lord for giving our Founding Fathers the insight and foresight to separate Church and State.

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Teukka  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:13:25am

re: #166 Teukka

There is a story emerging here in Sweden where the Sweden Democrats (SD) are beginning to get support from the evangelical right wing in the country, to “Stop the Antichrists dismantling of Sweden”.

*gags*

aftonbladet.se (Swedish)

expressen.se (Swedish)

Keep an eye out for the name Lars Enarson.

re: #167 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We must never cease to thank the Lord for giving our Founding Fathers the insight and foresight to separate Church and State.

And here’s a pic of the guy snagged off of youtube for those so inclined:

Lars Enarson
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:22:45am

“Dammit, they keep following the law!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:24:59am

re: #169 Single-handed sailor

Trump privately complaining about FBI director he picked to replace Comey

“Dammit, they keep following the law!

Trump appointees are expected to put personal loyalty over public service.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:33:56am

re: #58 JordanRules

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How is this not fascism?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:41:24am

re: #168 Teukka

Is the rightwing turn in Sweden motivated by anti-migrant sentiments?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:43:17am

re: #171 Patricia Kayden

How is this not fascism?

“I don’t know why they don’t take care of a situation like that,” Trump said. “I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters. You don’t even know what side the protesters are on.”

He added: “In the old days, we used to throw them out. Today, I guess they just keep screaming.”

He came just short of calling for protest to be made illegal, but his intent is quite clear.

And the whole protest issue is connected to football, whereby we must not forget that list of highest-paid public jobs per state, most of them are football or basketball coaches. We are dealing with a conflation of sports, religion and patriotism here.

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Teukka  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:53:09am

re: #172 Patricia Kayden

Is the rightwing turn in Sweden motivated by anti-migrant sentiments?

That’s an affirm, ma’am :(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 2:58:35am

re: #172 Patricia Kayden

Is the rightwing turn in Sweden motivated by anti-migrant sentiments?

all over Europe. Orban in Hungary is making major hay with his southern border fence

Germany is having its own Molly Tibbets blowup: a knifing in Chemnitz committed by an immigrant who was already convicted and should have been deported has brought out right-wing protesters en masse and fueled support for the right-wing AfD party.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 3:03:40am

Conservative Christians Promise ‘Civil War’ If Trump Is Impeached
Jim Bakker, Roger Stone etc. Not named, but obviously included, is child molester and draft dodger Ted Nugent. Interesting that foul-mouthed degenerates like Stone and Ted Nugent now count as “Evangelical.”

Yet despite the scandal and the criminality, conservative Christians cotinue to support Trump in overwhelming numbers. A PRRI poll conducted in early August found that among white evangelicals, 79 percent vigorously oppose the calls to impeach Trump.

The poll numbers are in line with a Five Thirty Eight report on national exit polls after the 2016 election showing that 81 percent of white evangelical voters voted for Trump, the widest margin for a Republican presidential candidate ever among evangelicals since they began tracking the numbers.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 5, 2018 • 3:05:22am

re: #168 Teukka

And here’s a pic of the guy snagged off of youtube for those so inclined:

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Enarson looks like it should be an English word meaning “to intentionally and maliciously set on fire”.

Seems apt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 3:15:25am

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Conservative Christians Promise ‘Civil War’ If Trump Is Impeached
Jim Bakker, Roger Stone etc. Not named, but obviously included, is child molester and draft dodger Ted Nugent. Interesting that foul-mouthed degenerates like Stone and Ted Nugent now count as “Evangelical.”

Because elections have consequences but not Congressional proceedings. Got it.

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Chrysicat  Sep 5, 2018 • 3:24:12am

(Believe it or not, there are still moments I don’t feel totally political)

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Teukka  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:12:40am

There is “sufficient evidence” to charge Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov over the attack in Salisbury, Scotland Yard and the CPS say.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:13:50am

re: #179 Chrysicat

You Completely lost me at the second line and had me squinting at the last one, but I’m Updinging to balance things out.

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Citizen K  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:15:56am

So when do news outlets stop treating every utterance from Trump with undue credulity, like it’s just boilerplate politics? When does the magic (R) stop being treated as a fucking magic wand of credibility for every inane piece of shit one says?

….I’m sadly not holding my breath.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:23:26am

re: #182 Citizen K

WaPo: Trump suggests protesting should be illegal

So when do news outlets stop treating every utterance from Trump with undue credulity, like it’s just boilerplate politics? When does the magic (R) stop being treated as a fucking magic wand of credibility for every inane piece of shit one says?

.

it involves football. and patriotism, two things that appeal at the same gut level to a certain viewership/readership and political clientele.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:30:32am

So, here was my day, the third of the new term.

Went to my first class. Pleased that the new computers work fine. Displeased to find my USB stick was infected with a virus, rendering it temporarily useless. Class went well, nevertheless.

Went to office. Our office assistants tell me the dean, vice dean and secretary of the Foreign Language College will come in 20 minutes to meet with me. They tell me that our program needs to move out of one of our two offices and pack all 10 of us into one office. I’m agreeable, but we need to clear it with the head of our program (my boss, IOW). He is not pleased At. All.

Went home for lunch. Downloaded my necessary files to another USB stick. Went to afternoon class. All is good. Return to office, to find the office assistants have been moving furniture, etc., from office 2 to office 1. Our boss lost the argument with the dean. Fixed my infected USB stick. Signed about a dozen drop/add forms. Moved my computer and stuff from office 2 to office 1. Sent emails to teachers advising them of the move. Helped move the printer/photocopier from office 2 to office 1. Left work at 6:30 pm.

Did I tell you I became a manager of our teaching unit? Now you know.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:31:40am

I’m a wet noodle now.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:34:56am

re: #161 Single-handed sailor

Its nice to see Woodward pad his retirement.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:35:02am

re: #182 Citizen K

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So when do news outlets stop treating every utterance from Trump with undue credulity, like it’s just boilerplate politics? When does the magic (R) stop being treated as a fucking magic wand of credibility for every inane piece of shit one says?

….I’m sadly not holding my breath.

What’s truly embarrassing is having a President who understands nothing about our civics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:37:16am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

What’s truly embarrassing is having a President who understands nothing about our civics.

no more than most of his supporters

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:38:26am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

no more than most of his supporters

And that’s frightening. Trump is dangerously ignorant.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:39:40am

It’s upset.

but I think a staffer wrote this one.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:41:54am

I get the feeling the person who originally had this account has been long gone, the account having been stolen by a Botnet controller or whatnot. Please report for spam.

n/PzBS/ewt2flxZaj04woyMFztNlyKqJwlpAJmuxxgMC+eGEheA5xqFahO+IM/YqVKTKJPSNDTyTN4wOJg8oVwIXnOlU5HXAUzKPDLS8lCO78rhZngvToGAFOBXZ5IsLHHYgy6YiDFUE1pN46kdgeYpACYTwO+/t7vLJndY1M+6lkSLCZ1CS28enFbt/HoT1ME4fpFvRoNxjmQ9vxp0f9WiJRjlIOihZglwwr3VYV5A=

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:42:56am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

It’s upset.

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but I think a staffer wrote this one.

Prove it’s libel. I very much doubt Woodward made everything up. His word against yours which is shit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:43:31am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

Isn’t it a shame that someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost. Don’t know why Washington politicians don’t change libel laws?

but I think a staffer wrote this one.

make up stories?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:46:40am

Oh yeah, he’ll be calling for Bob’ Arrest before the day is out.
In the meantime help yourself to this poll.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:49:31am

Public Enemies List

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Teukka  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:51:37am

re: #195 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Public Enemies List

Index Librorum Prohibitorum

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:53:31am

re: #196 Teukka

Index Librorum Prohibitorum

They do not need an Index of Banned Books because it involves books…just an index of banned broadcast and websites

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wheat-dogg  Sep 5, 2018 • 4:58:45am

re: #194 Dave In Austin

I’m getting access denied, maybe because I am using a VPN.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:04:01am

re: #198 wheat-dogg

I’m getting access denied, maybe because I am using a VPN.

I usually have just the opposite problem

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:07:02am

re: #194 Dave In Austin

Done! Tee hee!

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Dave In Austin  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:17:13am

re: #200 Flying Squirrel Girl

Done! Tee hee!

I would say is a rather unhinged survey….

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Dave In Austin  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:18:20am

Good Morning Dallas!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:19:42am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:21:19am

re: #201 Dave In Austin

OT but are you going to Waterloo Music Festival this weekend? My sis and I are big Cheese fans so we’re looking forward to it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:21:37am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

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People really fucking suck sometimes. They give you shit either way.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:23:36am

re: #204 Flying Squirrel Girl

OT but are you going to Waterloo Music Festival this weekend? My sis and I are big Cheese fans so we’re looking forward to it.

David works nites/weekends. I fish alot and have no social life.
It’s better that way.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:25:39am

re: #206 Dave In Austin

Bummer! Tell ya what. I’ll have fun for everyone who can’t make it! :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:27:05am

Woman who took photo of ‘Cosby’ actor working at N.J. Trader Joe’s totally regrets it

what about having respect for people who work hard for a living?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:27:09am

From Fox 4 itself:

Note that the pickup is a Dodge Ram.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:30:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:31:14am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Woman who took photo of ‘Cosby’ actor working at N.J. Trader Joe’s totally regrets it

what about having respect for people who work hard for a living?

The article covers that aspect pretty well.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:32:24am

re: #161 Single-handed sailor

Yes, he has receipts.

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I called him a retarded Southerner and mentally dumb! Woodward is such a liar!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:37:18am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:37:18am

re: #212 Mike Lamb

I called him a retarded Southerner and mentally dumb! Woodward is such a liar!

The latest this morning I heard on the drive into work is that one impediment in trade talks with India is news that Trump was imitating/mocking PM Modi’s Indian accent around WH staffers.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:38:56am

Fox 4 Twitter commenters have already labeled the Dodge Rammer a liberal lunatic and a leftist, even though he has barely arrived at the jail. Expect this to be the narrative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:40:40am

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Fox 4 Twitter commenters have already labeled the Dodge Rammer a liberal lunatic and a typical intolerant & violent leftist, even though he has barely arrived at the jail. Expect this to be the narrative.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:40:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:41:52am

re: #1 Bass Reeves

Can we get back to that “know nothing screamer” part?

I’ve slept on it and have decided that “Know Nothing Screamers” is my new band name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:44:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:46:32am
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dangerman  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:47:27am

from woodward’s book, Trump, after mueller’s appointment

‘Everybody’s trying to get me … It’s unfair. Now everybody’s saying I’m going to be impeached … They’re going to spend years digging through my whole life and finances.

i guess he didn’t know and no one bothered to tell him: Politics ain’t beanbag

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:49:18am

re: #221 dangerman

“They’re going to spend years digging through my whole life and finances”

if those finances play a relevant role in his current political decisions, then they are more than fair game

really, what the hell did he expect?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:51:21am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:51:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 5:59:03am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:01:03am

Woodward is known to keep his evidence very secure. And his evidence is supposedly very thorough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:02:00am

re: #226 Barefoot Grin

Woodward is known to keep his evidence very secure. And his evidence is supposedly very thorough.

Woodward is a journalist with a long and solid reputation. He has nothing to gain from publishing unfounded sensationalism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:02:13am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

these guys need a fence…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:05:50am

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

Too bad it’s not 42,000 pages with a 1 day deadline.

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Archangelus  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:07:17am

re: #194 Dave In Austin

Oh yeah, he’ll be calling for Bob’ Arrest before the day is out.
In the meantime help yourself to this poll.

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Done and done.

So much wrong in that idiocy, though #20 really takes the cake:
“Do you believe that if Republicans were obstructing Obama like Democrats are doing to Trump, the mainstream media would attack Republicans?”

“If”? Seriously? Freaking IF?
Are they really trying to pretend THAT much?

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lawhawk  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:09:56am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s another heat wave and I’m totally ready for fall. Can’t stand this kind of oppressive humidity and temps.

But that’s minor inconveniences compared to the fact that the GOP continues to do nothing to stop a corrupt and craven administration undoing environmental regulations, consumer protections, and are about to rubber stamp a guy hand picked by right wing extremists to gut women’s rights, health coverage for tens of millions of Americans, and gut civil and voting rights, so rich white guys can get even richer while the angry white guys are supposed to stay angry because nonwhites are still around.

Everything the GOP is doing is through a lens of white nationalism and misogyny, and they’re not even hiding it anymore.

The Woodward book is just the latest to confirm that Trumpworld is a shitshow and that everyone handles Trump like a goddamned toddler. There aren’t any adults in the room.

If there were, they would have already used the 25A, but Trump surrounded himself with yes men who will do his bidding, even if it’s bugnuts insanity. The few who think they’re doing the nation’s business are too busy trying to swipe papers off Trump’s desk to keep him from starting wars or doing even more unconscionable acts.

These aren’t the acts of a sane administration. These aren’t the acts of a rational administration. They’ve put power and corrupt acts that enrich themselves above all else, and the GOP has enabled this, because the one thing they want more than anything else is to pack the courts for a generation to come. McConnell’s long con has worked out so well, given that they’ve flipped the court for a generation to come so even if they lose the House, they can still pack the courts. The Senate is likely to remain in GOP control, which means that they will continue to pack the courts. There isn’t much you can do when so many don’t get out and vote as if your lives depended on it.

And there are far too many people who don’t think this is the case.

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lawhawk  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:10:47am

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rand Paul, is that you? /

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:11:27am

This is sad. Former Lubbock Democratic chair turned Trumpophant weighs in on Nike:

Note that Nike, one of the largest business enterprises in the world, is now part of a socialist conspiracy.

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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:12:05am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Woman who took photo of ‘Cosby’ actor working at N.J. Trader Joe’s totally regrets it

what about having respect for people who work hard for a living?

Did you read the article? She took the shot because she reads Hollywood type stories and just thought everyone took pictures like that. Then she found out it doesn’t always work that way.

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dangerman  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:13:25am

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

It was; nothing requires the general election be held in November. Now the GOP gets to reap the benefits of their illegal conduct another two years.

If you can’t win with more votes, game the system. Delay upon delay worked.

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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:13:49am

re: #215 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Fox 4 Twitter commenters have already labeled the Dodge Rammer a liberal lunatic and a leftist, even though he has barely arrived at the jail. Expect this to be the narrative.

They need something to grasp onto. They have so few examples of actual violent leftists.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:15:29am

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is sad. Former Lubbock Democratic chair turned Trumpophant weighs in on Nike:

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Note that Nike, one of the largest business enterprises in the world, is now part of a socialist conspiracy.

Socialist- Everything I dislike. I saw some idiot saying that they were Muslim too. You know what, you don’t have to like Nike’s decision and hell I prefer Adidas myself for my comfort but the pathetic tantrum being thrown over Nike featuring a black athlete who stood up for what he believed in and has been pretty much blacklisted from his job really just says it all about white conservatives. They get mad at Kap kneeling but not at Trump belittling a POW.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:20:11am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:20:19am

Dodge Rammer story updated. Apparently the driver brought all those papers you see scattered on the street.

FOX4 photojournalists were able to film him placing numerous boxes next to a sidedoor filled with stacks of paper. The papers were also strewn across the sidewalk and street adjacent to the building.

Maybe it’s Kavanaugh’s missing document stash.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:22:17am

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is sad. Former Lubbock Democratic chair turned Trumpophant weighs in on Nike:

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Note that Nike, one of the largest business enterprises in the world, is now part of a socialist conspiracy.

Such delicate snowflake flowers these are.

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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:22:52am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:24:50am

re: #241 Belafon

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The two are usually related though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:26:24am

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Conservative Christians Promise ‘Civil War’ If Trump Is Impeached
Jim Bakker, Roger Stone etc. Not named, but obviously included, is child molester and draft dodger Ted Nugent. Interesting that foul-mouthed degenerates like Stone and Ted Nugent now count as “Evangelical.”

The RWNJs have really reached “boy who cried wolf” territory with these lame Civil War threats.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:27:25am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

It’s upset.

but I think a staffer wrote this one.

Says the man who spread the birther conspiracy, claimed he had “sources” in Hawaii, also claimed Muslim cheered after 9/11, etc.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:28:44am

re: #117 electrotek

Her Twitter bio is a real piece of work:

Well, I’m also very Pro-Shakira Law so that works.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:28:51am

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

The RWNJs have really reached “boy who cried wolf” territory with these lame Civil War threats.

They really want to be victims so bad. If they want to do, maybe they should just off themselves and do us all a favor. I’m sorry if that sounds crude but I am sick of these assholes acting like they’re being persecuted. You have the Presidency, the Supreme Court, and Congress and you’re still flailing. Because you’re incapable of governing because your whole ideology is short sighted and was just a shallow response to the left.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:29:24am

re: #245 Sir John Barron

Well, I’m also very Pro-Shakira Law so that works.

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Shakira Law and Hummus will take over.

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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:29:51am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:31:53am

re: #248 Belafon

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There’s a lot of hidden info on this guy. Kavanaugh isn’t a stupid guy but he would by far be the most partisan member of the court and that’s saying something given Alito and Thomas.

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jeffreyw  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:32:22am

Imgur


Good morning!

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lawhawk  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:32:41am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Shakira Law and Hummus will take over.

And a taco truck will lead them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:36:27am

Woodward is an old school muckraker, not one of these lame taking head news analysts on TV or a journalist in name only like Maggie Haberman.

A real journalist makes sure he’s got all the receipts and recordings and whatever else to back up his story before a single word gets published. This will not end well for those who are calling him a liar.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:38:10am

While our attention is focused on the hearings, this is happening.
Russian Forces Flood Into The Med Ahead Of Syrian Offensive, Here’s Everything You Need To Know

We at The War Zone have already detailed the wild, conspiratorial accusations the Russians have made against the United States and the United Kingdom both, accusing them, without evidence, of seeking to stage chemical weapon attacks as a pretext to strike at Assad. These unfounded allegations have continued and reflect a now typical Russian information operation that seeks to deflect and distract from its own activities in Syria, as well as those of Assad and simply muddy the waters as to the true state of the situation in contested areas, such as Idlib. We saw a similar escalation in rhetoric and accusations in the lead up to the U.S.-led cruise missile barrage in April 2018.

What is different this time around is that the Russians have deployed a massive amount of military aircraft and warships into and around the eastern Mediterranean. Though the Kremlin’s official reasoning for this is that it is simply carrying out a training exercise, the entire maneuver looks well suited to provide support to the Syrian regime and an obstacle to any U.S.-led strikes against Assad… The Slava-class guided missile cruiser Marshal Ustinov, which can carry up to 16 P-1000 Vulkan supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles and 64 long-range surface-to-air missiles across eight individual S-300F systems.
Udaloy-class destroyer Severomorsk, with the Metel missile system, which can carry up to eight anti-submarine or anti-ship missiles, as well as 64 short-to-medium range 3K95 surface-to-air missiles.
At least three Admiral Grigorovich-class frigates, each of which can carry up to eight Kalibr land-attack cruise missiles.
At least two Kilo-class submarines, which can also fire Kalibrs.
Tu-160 White Swan supersonic strategic bombers, also known as Blackjacks, which can carry Kh-101 air-launched land attack cruise missiles.
Tu-142MK Bear and Il-38 May maritime patrol aircraft, which can carry various anti-submarine weapons.
Russian Naval Aviation Su-30SM and Su-33 fighter jets, which could provide combat air patrols to defend the task force against any notional aerial attack or carry anti-ship cruise missiles to carry out their own maritime strikes.

This gives Trump coverage-Too much force to pick a fight, so he can pretend outrage as more civilians (edit) perish in the upcoming offensive. Iran, Syria, Russia, maybe Turkey Vs US & allied forces? We won’t do more than whine. Not while Trump is sending surrender offers to the Taliban.

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Chrysicat  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:40:14am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:44:30am

re: #65 JordanRules

These kids want AC now?!?!?!?!?

When I went to school where I walked up hills both ways….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:47:29am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

These kids want AC now?!?!?!?!?

When I went to school where I walked up hills both ways….

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I explained to my kids that our school sat atop a hollow hill, which was pressed below ground level by the weight of the students at the end of the day and rose up again overnight…

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dangerman  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:49:39am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

These kids want AC now?!?!?!?!?

When I went to school where I walked up hills both ways….

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In the snow
Barefoot
And we were happy to do it

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:51:07am

re: #245 Sir John Barron

Well, these hips don’t lie; what more could you ask for?

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b.d.(secret op-ed writer)  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:55:06am

Another typical day in Dallas:

Wonder what flavor nutjob he is?

Clearly he is a white dude, if he were brown they’d be calling it a terrorist attack.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:55:39am

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not that they work against the gerrymandering party, it’s that they can be overcome in a wave election and, as you said, safe seats can fall.

In the wave election of 1994, the incumbent Democrat in Illinois 5th Congressional district, Dan Rostenkowski, lost a safe seat by about 8%. In the following election, the Democrats regained the seat by a 29% margin with Blagojevich. And in 1998, Blago was reelected by 48%.

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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:56:39am

re: #259 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Another typical day in Dallas:

Wonder what flavor nutjob he is?

Clearly he is a white dude, if he were brown they’d be calling it a terrorist attack.

The “suspcious package” is documentation stating that FOX isn’t loyal enough to the president. //

It does sound like a guy who’s snapped.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:56:47am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s been doing favors for Trump since the 80s. His denial today is just another favor.

Rudy’s long history of quashing Trump probes

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:57:39am

re: #259 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Another typical day in Dallas:

[Embedded content]

Wonder what flavor nutjob he is?

Clearly he is a white dude, if he were brown they’d be calling it a terrorist attack.

SMOTI will find some random Tweets with #resist hashtag and claim he is a “violent liberal antifa”

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 5, 2018 • 6:59:39am

The Cantaloupe With Arms is Tweeting up a storm, shrieking about the Woodward book.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:00:24am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

These kids want AC now?!?!?!?!?

When I went to school where I walked up hills both ways….

////

Heh. School story of mine from the opposite end of that spectrum:

You know how kids in school will (or at least used to) pull the fire alarm for shits and giggles?

When I was in 8th grade someone at my school did that…in January…so of course we all had to vacate the building. It was 35 below outside and we didn’t have time to properly bundle up so we all stood out in the cold for just under 10 minutes until we were given the all clear.

EVERYONE in the buildng that day was pissed at that kid.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:01:06am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

The Cantaloupe With Arms is Tweeting up a storm, shrieking about the Woodward book.

Steve King knows what about the inner workings of the Trump WH? Oh I’m sorry. You meant Trump. Stupid me.

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b.d.(secret op-ed writer)  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:01:29am

re: #263 The Vicious Babushka

SMOTI will find some random Tweets with #resist hashtag and claim he is a “violent liberal antifa”

And, of course, attacking a FoxNews local affiliate means he is a lib…..and Dallas is a dem city too!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:01:56am

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

Heh. School story of mine from the opposite end of that spectrum:

You know how kids in school will (or at least used to) pull the fire alarm for shits and giggles?

When I was in 8th grade someone at my school did that…in January…so of course we all had to vacate the building. It was 35 below outside and we didn’t have time to properly bundle up so we all stood out in the cold for just under 10 minutes until we were given the all clear.

EVERYONE in the buildng that day was pissed at that kid.

God I would want to kick that kid’s ass. I remember one winter in college our fire alarm went off in the dorm during a big snow storm.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:02:08am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

The Cantaloupe With Arms is Tweeting up a storm

If only you had stop typing there, then it would be another day ending in “y”.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:02:29am

re: #259 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

Another typical day in Dallas:

[Embedded content]

Wonder what flavor nutjob he is?

Clearly he is a white dude, if he were brown they’d be calling it a terrorist attack.

If he were brown, there’s a good chance he’d already be dead.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:02:49am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

The Cantaloupe With Arms is Tweeting up a storm, shrieking about the Woodward book.

A book he will never read because, as we all know, he doesn’t read. Is he just regurgitating Fox and Friends?

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:03:29am
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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:04:35am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

The Cantaloupe With Arms is Tweeting up a storm, shrieking about the Woodward book.

Trump: I never said this.
Woodward: Let’s go to the tape.
Trump: That never happened.
Woodward: Let’s go to the tape.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:05:06am

re: #273 Belafon

Trump: Fake News! Witch Hunt!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:05:20am

re: #271 Hecuba’s daughter

A book he will never read because, as we all know, he doesn’t read. Is he just regurgitating Fox and Friends?

Steve Doocy said I never said this. //

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:08:34am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

It’s upset.

but I think a staffer wrote this one.

Does DJT know we can read his tweets?

///

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Belafon  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:09:57am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

It’s upset.

but I think a staffer wrote this one.

Let’s talk about those Clinton and Obama books that have been published.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:12:23am

re: #276 Sir John Barron

Does DJT know we can read his tweets?

///

can or is allowed to?

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Aussie Apocalypse  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:12:43am

re: #275 HappyWarrior

The only time I want to hear about Steve: Clutch - Steve Doocy

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:14:02am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:14:52am

re: #214 Barefoot Grin

The latest this morning I heard on the drive into work is that one impediment in trade talks with India is news that Trump was imitating/mocking PM Modi’s Indian accent around WH staffers.

I heard that one along with India’s foreign minister(?) saying something about how ‘we’ can’t trust the orange-shitgoblin (that may not be the exact word he used) to not tweet out something that contradicts an agreement or such. Basically, a close ally saying we can’t trust the US to not be a dickhead to us.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:19:05am
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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:21:03am

Her thread is following the hearing. Google is represented by an empty chair, so yeah.

I just don’t even know what to say anymore about this hysterical screamer being effectively legitimate and rich in our society and halls of power.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:21:55am

Why isn’t this terrorist traitor in jail? Never mind, we know why.
GOP Rep Tells Black Attorney She May ‘Go Missing’ For Protesting Confederate Statues

Georgia’s Republican state Rep. Jason Spencer told his former colleague on Tuesday that she and others supporting the removal of state-sponsored Confederate monuments and landmarks could “go missing.”

Attorney and former state Democratic Rep. LaDawn Jones, who says she regularly debated with Spencer in person and online, was shocked by the menacing comments she received.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:22:46am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Why isn’t this terrorist traitor in jail? Never mind, we know why.
GOP Rep Tells Black Attorney She May ‘Go Missing’ For Protesting Confederate Statues

He’s still threatening people after making an ass of himself on Showtime?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:24:06am

re: #283 JordanRules

Her thread is following the hearing. Google is represented by an empty chair, so yeah.

[Embedded content]

I just don’t even know what to say anymore about this hysterical screamer being effectively legitimate and rich in our society and halls of power.

Alex Jones hates the deep state so much he supports consummate Washington insider Kavanaugh but I guess he just likes the judge’s views on gay demons.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:27:46am

Clever t-shirts make America pretty cool.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:30:09am

re: #286 HappyWarrior

Alex Jones hates the deep state so much he supports consummate Washington insider Kavanaugh but I guess he just likes the judge’s views on gay demons.

Different hearing, but I assume he does support Kavanaugh as a great fighter of demons and also likely to protect his cash cow Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:30:26am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Why isn’t this terrorist traitor in jail? Never mind, we know why.
GOP Rep Tells Black Attorney She May ‘Go Missing’ For Protesting Confederate Statues

“Let’s honor and remember forever the brave confederate troops who fought against our country and here is me burning my Nike sneakers because of Kap and his protests against American soldiers and the Anthem.”
/

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:31:35am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:32:03am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

Isn’t it a shame that someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost. Don’t know why Washington politicians don’t change libel laws?

— Donald J. Trump

Isn’t it a shame that someone can have a radio show and social media platform featuring totally made up stories about victims of school shootings?

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:32:35am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:34:00am

re: #290 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

You didn’t question Putin, tough guy. You got elected honestly precisely because you didn’t question him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:34:14am

re: #288 JordanRules

Different hearing, but I assume he does support Kavanaugh as a great fighter of demons and also likely to protect his cash cow Trump.

Ah ha.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:34:44am

re: #290 JordanRules

Almost everyone agrees that my Administration has done more in less than two years than any other Administration in the history of our Country. I’m tough as hell on people & if I weren’t, nothing would get done. Also, I question everybody & everything-which is why I got elected!

— Donald J. Trump

Especially people who oppose me or question me or investigate my administration and campaign like the Russia hoax, totally made up, and I’m really tough on the golf course.

/

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:35:50am

re: #290 JordanRules

Almost everyone agrees that my Administration has done more in less than two years than any other Administration in the history of our Country. I’m tough as hell on people & if I weren’t, nothing would get done. Also, I question everybody & everything-which is why I got elected!

— Donald J. Trump

Narrator: Almost no one agrees.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:36:09am

re: #295 Sir John Barron

Especially people who oppose me or question me or investigate my administration and campaign like the Russia hoax, totally made up, and I’m really tough on the golf course.

/

And I’m really tough on the Colonel, just ask my poop!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:36:26am
299
HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:36:49am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

Narrator: Almost no one agrees.

Well he’s right. They have done more in less time to completely discredit the American presidency. So yay?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:36:57am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

How does Rage Furby get into a Congressional building?

301
HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:37:27am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

How does Rage Furby get into a Congressional building?

His right wing sugar daddy probably helped him out.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:39:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:40:23am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

Then you don’t deserve to be on the SCOTUS, you coward.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:42:13am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

Should be disqualifying. But I just yell into the void.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:42:20am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

He subpoenaed Clinton, didn’t he? Or he was a part of the team that did (or was Clinton’s deposition a separate case from the Starr investigation)?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:42:51am

re: #305 Sir John Barron

He subpoenaed Clinton, didn’t he? Or he was a part of the team that did (or was Clinton’s deposition a separate case from the Starr investigation)?

Yeah but that was for his career advancement.//

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:42:52am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

FEINSTEIN: You can’t tell me if you think the president is subject to the courts?

KAVANAUGH: No.

Never mind sitting on any bench; he needs to be disbarred for that statement alone.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:43:13am
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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:46:58am

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makeitstop  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:49:22am

re: #279 Aussie Apocalypse

The only time I want to hear about Steve: [Embedded content]

Video

Clutch! Love that band. My current favorite…

Clutch - X-Ray Visions

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Skip Intro  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:50:35am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Prove it’s libel. I very much doubt Woodward made everything up. His word against yours which is shit.

I don’t think he understands that part. Him simply calling it libel should be enough. No need for a trial or anything like that.

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ObserverArt  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:51:25am

re: #221 dangerman

from woodward’s book, Trump, after mueller’s appointment

i guess he didn’t know and no one bothered to tell him: Politics ain’t beanbag

He wanted the glory.

He had no idea of the reality.

Ignorant bliss hopefully will turn into damning reality and this ‘president’ gets the tough lesson because he never learned what it would take.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 7:53:12am

This turn of events isn’t just worrying for Macron, it’s worrying for those in Europe’s pro-globalisation camp who placed their faith in him to halt the wave of populism sweeping the western world. For them, after the twin shocks of the UK’s Brexit vote and Donald Trump’s election in the United States, Macron simply must succeed. The slide in his popularity - Macron is now more unpopular than his predecessor, François Hollande, at the same stage - is a dire warning to “globalists”. It comes at a time when Trump’s popularity among his voters is relatively stable by comparison and the American economy is growing. Macron’s fate could have far-reaching consequences for Europe’s political future.

I really hope he can turn this around. I worry about what can happen if he doesn’t.

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ObserverArt  Sep 5, 2018 • 8:03:08am

re: #255 Sir John Barron

These kids want AC now?!?!?!?!?

When I went to school where I walked up hills both ways….

////

Columbus schools called the day off for the kids. Too many buildings with no or limited air conditioning. Already 85° with 63% humidity, feeling like 91° at 11:00 am.

Yuck. I hate this shit. I hope today is the last of the 90 crap. A little cooler with rain tomorrow and hopefully a little better this weekend.

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ObserverArt  Sep 5, 2018 • 8:06:31am

re: #273 Belafon

Trump: I never said this.
Woodward: Let’s go to the tape.
Trump: That never happened.
Woodward: Let’s go to the tape.

They Photoshopped that tape!

It’s a fake tape…this I can tell you.

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ObserverArt  Sep 5, 2018 • 8:12:14am

re: #293 HappyWarrior

You didn’t question Putin, tough guy. You got elected honestly precisely because you didn’t question him.

So damn tough he can’t fire anyone and then he lies about not knowing they were fired.

Yeah…so tough.

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ObserverArt  Sep 5, 2018 • 8:17:24am

re: #300 Sir John Barron

How does Rage Furby get into a Congressional building?

Would not surprise me if Matt Gaetz got him on the attendee list.

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Old Liberal  Sep 5, 2018 • 8:38:56am

re: #135 Targetpractice

Sorry, I had to duck out to grab a shower and get to work. But yes, the implication of the evidence is that the Army either knew Tillman had been “fragged” or feared the public reaching that conclusion once the evidence was revealed. The destruction/disappearance of evidence, altering official reports and citations, forcing soldiers to repeat lies to maintain the fiction, and the lies told to the family when they pretty much already knew the truth. If his death wasn’t a deliberate act, the Army certainly did everything in their power to make it look like it was.

This is why I hate all the military worship and bullshit cheerleading about how much integrity and honor there is in the military. It is just like the old high school shit about “my school is better than your school just because it is, so there”. The fucking armed forces need to cut out the propagandizing of how fucking special they are and start actually doing what they say they are. Stop the raping of female personnel. Stop the lying. Stop the coverups. Until they admit that they are no goddammed better than any other element of society, they won’t BE any better than any other element of society. Have you noticed lately how many “Navy Seals” are corrupt? Former governor of Missouri, the secretary of the interior, there’s another one who is a rep whose staff forged signatures, a few more I can’t name off the top. Navy Seals may be physically talented, they may even be smart, but they sure as hell don’t police their own and they have some real skunks among them. Of course, also General Flynn? General Kelly? Fuck your supposed honor and integrity. Take honest stock, be forthright, and get to work to be what you purport to be. Fuckers.


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