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electrotek  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:12:18pm

Damn this lady is clueless

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:17:00pm
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jaunte  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:18:16pm
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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:18:29pm

The nerve!!!

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austin_blue  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:19:57pm

re: #2 JordanRules

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Water sausages.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:23:58pm

re: #4 JordanRules

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:26:40pm

re: #4 JordanRules

The nerve!!!

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Shouldn’t he be wearing a Russian Flag?

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austin_blue  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:27:56pm

Everything just got confirmed by the anonymous Op-Ed.

Unless you believe that the anonymous Op-Ed was from the Deep State, despite the fact that Woodward has got all the tapes and his book is clearly akin to all his previous books which were based on verifiable facts.

Books on nine Presidents, respected and accepted. This one is the shit?

Trump his up to his ass in alligators and he’s wearing catfish underwear.

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Kragar  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:29:59pm

re: #1 electrotek

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:32:07pm

re: #9 Kragar

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electrotek  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:32:51pm

re: #10 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Man, these Russian bots are so shameless that they have no problem stealing the photos of Facebook users with the same name!

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:33:41pm

re: #4 JordanRules

The nerve!!!

LOL …

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:36:49pm

All this Lodestar stuff got me thinking about this old video game…

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KGxvi  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:40:08pm

re: #4 JordanRules

So many questions!

What does he believe in?
Why did he plead guilty?
How is Jr so fucking unaware?
I mean, seriously, what the fuck?

Ok, so four questions, but still…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:42:25pm

re: #14 KGxvi

So many questions!

What does he believe in?
Why did he plead guilty?
How is Jr so fucking unaware?
I mean, seriously, what the fuck?

Ok, so four questions, but still…

One more question:

Didn’t Michael Flynn, Jr. get kicked off Twitter, or am I thinking of some other wingnut?

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electrotek  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:46:02pm

lol hilarious

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electrotek  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:47:52pm

I think I need to go to sleep after losing brain cells reading this:

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:48:15pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

One more question:

Didn’t Michael Flynn, Jr. get kicked off Twitter, or am I thinking of some other wingnut?

I don’t remember him ever being kicked off. He’s been consistently obnoxious thru all the drama.

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Scout  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:49:47pm

I rather like the theory out there that “lodestar” was thrown in to the piece to frame Pence.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:52:38pm

re: #14 KGxvi

So many questions!

What does he believe in?
Why did he plead guilty?
How is Jr so fucking unaware?
I mean, seriously, what the fuck?

Ok, so four questions, but still…

He really has surprised me with how loud and visible he’s been throughout this ordeal. Then I’m reminded that they lack shame and have operated in our society in a way that’s totally foreign to me.

His Dad, while embroiled in all of this, was set to campaign for some Republicans earlier this year so I guess he comes by it naturally.

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Kragar  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:52:54pm
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austin_blue  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:56:08pm

Welp, Trump is talking about draining the swamp again.

He reminds me of a Clutch Cargo cartoon where one of the characters was Trump incarnate:

Swampy:

Clutch Cargo

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:58:24pm

re: #19 Scout

I rather like the theory out there that “lodestar” was thrown in to the piece to frame Pence.

I like it too, but the op-ed is very Republican establishment and they don’t have any reason to turn on Pence. Or do they?

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LastYearsMan  Sep 5, 2018 • 9:59:40pm

Anyone else seeing “Just Do It” as “Just Dolt”? Especially for the Flynn one. Just a dolt.

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piratedan  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:00:34pm

tbh… I could give a shit who wrote the memo… it really doesn’t matter to me in the grand scheme of things. What matters to me is that these folks have subverted the constitution in order to continuing to promote and implement their own political agenda.

If Trump is unfit, then declare him so and have him step down and promote the VP into the position. Yes, I understand that Pence doesn’t have an IQ above melted ice cream, but again… that doesn’t matter. You follow the law. You abide by the Constitution. Isn’t that what these fucking originalists were all about?

The GOP (I’m sure) knows what the score is and how we have a “caretaker” government of GOP apparatchiks running the show and despite knowing that this is against the law, so they’re on board with this too…..

Once upon a time, I really thought the GOP was going to generate their own Reichstag fire as an excuse to make all of this permanent, instead, it appears that they’ve chosen a less obvious but just as illegal way to continue to control the process…. they get to let Trump continue to take fire, use him as a prop to continue showing the rubes how persecuted they all are (with Faux telling them said same every damn day) and still all the while, continue to subvert the country and loot us of both our money, and our legal rights….

I’m at the point right now, that I would love Mueller to drop a few more indictments of members of Congress and the Senate and put the motherfucking kibosh on their entire house of cards….

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:01:15pm

re: #19 Scout

I rather like the theory out there that “lodestar” was thrown in to the piece to frame Pence.

I just don’t see it as likely.

I think whoever wrote it wants Pence to be President, and only Pence has the right combination of raw ambition, perceived divine right / provenance, and pure fuck-witted idiocy to think this might work.

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austin_blue  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:04:14pm

Night all. The morning should be EPIC!

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:09:36pm

She was all over Twitter today reinforcing what happened at the hearings yesterday and today. Lots of tweets from 2 accounts crossed my timeline (her account and her office’s account) and they even had promoted tweets pushed out.

I’m not doing a lot of 2020 talk cause our Republic is sinking and midterms and what not. Well other than saying fuck no to Avenatti. But I will say she had a very good day. Lots of good impressions. And it was her doing the work!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:12:02pm

Another reason I think it’s Pence is that it makes sense that he’d be at a crisis point where he somehow thought throwing gasoline on the dumpster fire of the administration was the only way he might ever be President. All of the other suspects would obviously prefer order over Trump’s chaos and I’m sure they’re frustrated and hoping to ameliorate Trump’s worst tendencies just as the op-ed says, but to my mind none of them have the perfect alignment that Pence does of cui bono, myopia and ego.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:13:57pm

I see Greenwald is weighing in on American politics again. He should mind his own business. Brazil has it’s own problems.

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electrotek  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:15:39pm

Yeah, she REALLY loves Breitbart now, deep down Breitbart losers want to marry her

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Kragar  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:16:37pm
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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:22:17pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

I’m assuming you think he wrote it with someone? After the lodestar fun, I don’t sniff a bit of him in that writing or many of the ideas.
I guess if someone wrote it for him, but even then they’d have to be feeding him the ideas too I think. So is he someone else’s puppet?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:22:41pm

Letter to the Editor of the Scottsbluff (Nebr.) Star-Herald calling out my representative Adrian Smith (I only represent Republicans, NE-3) for failing to respond to Paul Theobald (D) and his request for a debate prior to the election.

starherald.com

A common part of any election cycle is a debate between contenders for a political office. This is especially true and necessary for federal office seekers.

Adrian Smith has not responded to Paul Theobald to debate crucial issues related to the Third District Congressional Seat. Adrian Smith has voted for the legislative and policy initiatives promoted by President Trump and the Republican Party.

Adrian Smith needs to defend his representative actions on the following issues impacting citizens in the Third District:

• Donald Trump’s trade war is depressing the Nebraska agricultural economy putting farmers and ranchers in a welfare situation.

• The Affordable Care Act is being replaced by junk health insurance and fewer people in Nebraska having health insurance.

• Republican immigration policies are impacting workers in Nebraska and limiting the supply of immigrants with needed technical skills for Nebraska businesses.

• Large amounts of political support money from sources outside of Nebraska tend to buy political support for Republicans divide their efforts between outside pressures and the interests of Nebraska residents.

• Climate change is a huge concern in a state based on agriculture, climate change stresses crops and livestock.

• There is a permanent tax break for the rich tax payers and a rapidly declining tax break for other tax payers.

• We need reasonable regulations to rein in corruption, protect our quality of life, and afford everyone an equal opportunity in Nebraska.

Adrian Smith needs to tell Nebraskans how his time in office has helped them achieve a better quality of life. Third District voters need to learn about Paul Theobald’s plans to better represent Nebraskans regarding the issues listed above.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:30:14pm

re: #33 JordanRules

I’m assuming you think he wrote it with someone? After the lodestar fun, I don’t sniff a bit of him in that writing or many of the ideas.
I guess if someone wrote it for him, but even then they’d have to be feeding him the ideas too I think. So is he someone else’s puppet?

He may have written it with someone on his staff like a longtime trusted speechwriter. That makes some sense but he’s also been a political animal long enough to have written it by himself.

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teleskiguy  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:33:21pm
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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:33:38pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

He may have written it with someone on his staff like a longtime trusted speechwriter. That makes some sense but he’s also been a political animal long enough to have written it by himself.

He’s been a political animal but not a good one. He just doesn’t seem smart enough to have written it. We shall see but I liked your early picks better. LOL
Now mind you, I went in with Pence early but there’s not enough values stuff even hidden in there for me.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:36:10pm

re: #37 JordanRules

He’s been a political animal but not a good one. He just doesn’t seem smart enough to have written it. We shall see but I liked your early picks better. LOL
Now mind you, I went in with Pence early but there’s not enough values stuff even hidden in there for me.

It’s not exactly Shakespeare.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:38:14pm

re: #35 goddamnedfrank

He may have written it with someone on his staff like a longtime trusted speechwriter. That makes some sense but he’s also been a political animal long enough to have written it by himself.

One problem with that would be if the “trusted individual” (for example, his speechwriter) suddenly decided to go public.

Moreover, presuming the Times’s statement about the letter was correct (that the person would be in danger of losing his job if his name was released), that wouldn’t be Pence, as he is elected; he cannot be fired from the job of Vice-President.

I have no idea what is up with this op-ed, but it was sure was convenient to deflect from today’s news (Mr. Woodward’s book and the Senate hearings on the Supreme Court).

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:38:21pm

re: #38 goddamnedfrank

It’s not exactly Shakespeare.

I think he’s pretty damn dim and has relied heavily on speechwriters.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:40:51pm

re: #40 JordanRules

I think he’s pretty damn dim and has relied heavily on speechwriters.

Intelligence is highly compartmentalized. For sure sending the op-ed was stupid, but I was in no way impressed by its composition so I have no problem seeing him writing it.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:43:39pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Intelligence is highly compartmentalized. For sure sending the op-ed was stupid, but I was in no way impressed by its composition so I have no problem seeing him writing it.

Oh no, I was saying I don’t think he writes even at that level. Dude is dim as hell.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:47:34pm

re: #42 JordanRules

Oh no, I was saying I don’t think he writes even at that level. Dude is dim as hell.

Maybe Mother wrote it. He can always trust Mother.

LOL.

So gross.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 10:56:56pm

Kerri Harris (disabled Air Force veteran due to a bad anthrax vaccine in 2008, community organiser, single mother of two children who is poor, currently working in an auto shop while trying to complete a college education) is attempting to knock off Senator Tom Carper in Delaware’s Democratic primary.

She and Senator Carper hold completely different stances on a number of issues including Medicare-for-All, the Keystone XL Pipeline (Carper voted for it as it’s not going over his water, it’s going over mine), Dodd-Frank (Carper voted to roll it back), &c.

huffingtonpost.com

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:02:21pm

Uhh. I think they forgot the satire part.

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JordanRules  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:12:12pm

Smart time to play him Kim. Very smart.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:16:36pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:39:56pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:41:08pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:44:51pm

So I’m seeing plenty of speculation that the writer of the NYT “Resistance” op-ed may have been Mike Pence (mostly because of the use of the word ‘lodestar’, which is, in all truth, a word I don’t hear or read very often) or perhaps Pence’s speechwriter acting with Pence.

We probably won’t know who wrote it - unless he or she goes public - for a long time, but you know what?

I want Trump to think Pence wrote it.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:45:49pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:46:27pm

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Bass Reeves  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:49:01pm

re: #201 KGxvi

This has been a far right hobby horse for a while. I saw more than a bit of it in my Federalist Society days. The idea is based on some arcane notion of how one’s birth determines one’s loyalty. As if there’s a difference between being born 20 miles north or 20 miles south of a river. And then there’s a whole thing about how because a parent might not “be subject to the jurisdiction” of the US (which they take to mean “illegal”), then that calls into question an infant’s loyalty. None of it makes any kind of sense in the modern world if you think about it for more than 15 seconds.that white people in America are the only ones who should enjoy citizenship.

You wrote a lot, but what that meant was this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 5, 2018 • 11:59:24pm

re: #53 Bass Reeves

You wrote a lot, but what that meant was this.

Only certain white people. Preferably Christian conservative white people.

Trump’s idea of going after Hispanics for their citizenship (somehow I imagine he got that idea from Steven Miller or Rep. Steve King, how many racist Steves are there in the GOP anyway?) due to being born to midwives and therefore their birth certificates are invalid means if some codswallop like that was actually upheld, he could go after me as well. (Or President Carter.) King thinks I should be deported anyway, and conservatives have been on about “birthright citizenship” all my life.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:02:01am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:05:15am

surveyusa.com

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif 50) leads his Democratic opponent Ammar Campa-Najjar by seven points, whether or not Republicans were aware of the charges against Hunter.

Campa-Najjar leads amongst younger voters and urban voters; Hunter amongst older voters and rural and suburban voters.

The poll was conducted for the San Diego Union-Tribune at the end of August.

State polling (as shown in elections this year) continues to be notoriously bad, so who knows what’s up.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:09:10am

Opinion piece by Steven Pike, which lines up with some of those here (including me):

Anonymous White House Writer Isn’t A Patriot. They’re Betraying The Constitution.

I encountered many approaches to faithfully executing the law during my more than two decades in government. I saw officials seek to bend the rules to achieve their desired outcomes, and I saw officials demonstrate reverent respect for the law as they performed their elected and appointed functions. Never in my career have I witnessed anything on the magnitude of the tale told Wednesday by an anonymous senior administration official in a New York Times op-ed. I imagine I am far from alone.

The nearest historical analogy I can name ― and it is a poor one ― for the efforts of the author and others to “thwart” President Donald Trump’s “agenda and worst inclinations” is Edith Wilson’s assumption of power following President Woodrow Wilson’s stroke in 1919. Her abrogation of political power was, in fact, one of the historical events that drove passage of the 25th Amendment to regularize and codify how the republic deals with an incapacitated president.

(More at Huffington Post)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:20:33am

The march to authoritarianism and suppression of minorities continues:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:32:33am

Lawrence O’Donnell makes a pretty good argument that the author of the anonymous NYT “Resistance” op-ed is Director of National Intelligence Dan Coates.

THE LAST WORD WITH LAWRENCE O’DONNELL 9/5/18 | MSNBC NEWS

Starts around the 29 minute mark.

O’Donnell makes a good case, IMHO - for some reason, Coates slipped my mind.

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teleskiguy  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:35:42am
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Kragar  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:43:18am

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

surveyusa.com

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif 50) leads his Democratic opponent Ammar Campa-Najjar by seven points, whether or not Republicans were aware of the charges against Hunter.

Campa-Najjar leads amongst younger voters and urban voters; Hunter amongst older voters and rural and suburban voters.

The poll was conducted for the San Diego Union-Tribune at the end of August.

State polling (as shown in elections this year) continues to be notoriously bad, so who knows what’s up.

One of the guys in my office is in his district. Total Trumper. Evangelical fundie. Family values, the whole nine yards. This is the guy who says he won’t get a pet because he doesn’t want to be tempted to love anything without a soul. When we do talk politics, he’s the one who talks about locking up Clinton and Obama, and is fully behind Trump.

He’s says we need to wait and see how the trial plays out before he’ll even think about not voting for Hunter.

Fucktard.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:51:18am

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

Another reason I think it’s Pence is that it makes sense that he’d be at a crisis point where he somehow thought throwing gasoline on the dumpster fire of the administration was the only way he might ever be President. All of the other suspects would obviously prefer order over Trump’s chaos and I’m sure they’re frustrated and hoping to ameliorate Trump’s worst tendencies just as the op-ed says, but to my mind none of them have the perfect alignment that Pence does of cui bono, myopia and ego.

Pence also has the luxury of being the only person in the building that Trump can’t fire, since he’s technically an independently elected constitutional officer. Trump could freeze him out, and the job would return to the old bit about being worth a bucket of warm piss… but then again, if the Senate ends up 50-50 and Pence really wants to be an asshole to Trump…

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:54:44am

re: #62 KGxvi

Pence also has the luxury of being the only person in the building that Trump can’t fire, since he’s technically an independently elected constitutional officer. Trump could freeze him out, and the job would return to the old bit about being worth a bucket of warm piss… but then again, if the Senate ends up 50-50 and Pence really wants to be an asshole to Trump…

Exactly. I pointed this out earlier today.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:55:16am

re: #62 KGxvi

That implicates the NYT then since part of their reason for going along with this extraordinary anonymous thing is based on the person’s job being in jeopardy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:59:17am

re: #61 Kragar

Is your coworker the sort of person who would throw his wife under a bus to save his own skin, as Hunter has done?

Forget the issue of whether or not Hunter is guilty of the crimes of which he is accused. His loyalty to his wife shows that he doesn’t give a diddly damn about your coworker friend other than a vote.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 12:59:53am

#notallwhitepeople

#alllivesmatter

There!
Hope everyone feels better about the oppression now!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:00:09am

re: #64 JordanRules

That implicates the NYT then since part of their reason for going along with this extraordinary anonymous thing is based on the person’s job being in jeopardy.

In jeopardy could mean a lot of things. Like I said the House GOP could hypothetically impeach him, and I wouldn’t put it past Trump and the GOP base to call for that if evidence mounts that it was Pence and he refuses to properly atone or resign.

The obvious problem with that plan is that the automatic replacement for Pence is Paul Ryan, and after November it’s likely to be a Democrat, probably Nancy Pelosi.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:01:09am

re: #66 JordanRules

#notallwhitepeople

#alllivesmatter

There!
Hope everyone feels better about the oppression now!

#JustTheOverwhelmingMajorityOfWhitePeople

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:01:54am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

The obvious problem with that plan is that the replacement for Pence is Paul Ryan, and after November it’s likely to be a Democrat, probably Nancy Pelosi.

Trump would get to nominate a new VP, subject to approval from both Houses of Congress. Ryan/Pelosi only come into play if Pence is gone and Trump is somehow removed.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:02:13am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Is your coworker the sort of person who would throw his wife under a bus to save his own skin, as Hunter has done?

Forget the issue of whether or not Hunter is guilty of the crimes of which he is accused. His loyalty to his wife shows that he doesn’t give a diddly damn about your coworker friend other than a vote.

You try and tell him that and he still falls back on “we’ll see what happens in court.”

The jackass is even a minister at his local church. Assholes like him are why I’ve turned my back on organized religions my whole life.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:05:04am

Actually getting around to reading it, this bit is interesting:

Senator John McCain put it best in his farewell letter. All Americans should heed his words and break free of the tribalism trap, with the high aim of uniting through our shared values and love of this great nation.

Pence is too much of a partisan hack to actually say something like that, let alone believe it. So I’m less inclined to believe it’s Pence. (Plus, Pence was Manafort’s guy, which likely means he had the tacit approval of Putin.) Not really sure who in the White House I could honestly believe would say something like this? The Trump Administration isn’t even the B-Team of Republican circles, it’s like the Z-Team at best.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:05:05am

re: #69 KGxvi

Trump would get to nominate a new VP, subject to approval from both Houses of Congress. Ryan/Pelosi only come into play if Pence is gone and Trump is somehow removed.

Pretty sure that’s not true. Gerald Ford, as Speaker of the House, was automatically selected to become VP when Spiro Agnew resigned as per the 25th Amendment.

Edited: I was wrong about this.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:05:32am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

In jeopardy could mean a lot of things. Like I said the House GOP could hypothetically impeach him, and I wouldn’t put it past Trump and the GOP base to call for that if evidence mounts that it was Pence and he refuses to properly atone or resign.

The obvious problem with that plan is that the automatic replacement for Pence is Paul Ryan, and after November it’s likely to be a Democrat, probably Nancy Pelosi.

The Trumpites would turn on Pence so fast the whole nation would suffer a case of collective whiplash.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:05:39am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

In jeopardy could mean a lot of things. Like I said the House GOP could hypothetically impeach him, and I wouldn’t put it past Trump and the GOP base to call for that if evidence mounts that it was Pence and he refuses to properly atone and / or resign.

The obvious problem with that plan is that the replacement for Pence is Paul Ryan, and after November it’s likely to be a Democrat, probably Nancy Pelosi.

Yeah, I backed off the fired angle earlier today because I noticed the language did not say that. Didn’t think about it much further than that so what you detailed is an interesting twist.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:07:01am

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure that’s not true. Gerald Ford, as Speaker of the House, was automatically selected to become VP when Spiro Agnew resigned as per the 25th Amendment.

Nope, Ford was confirmed by both Houses, that’s where he made is famous “Sir, I’m a Ford, not a Lincoln” quote.

law.cornell.edu

Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:07:19am

re: #74 JordanRules

Yeah, I backed off the fired angle earlier today because I noticed the language did not say that. Didn’t think about it much further than that so what you detailed is an interesting twist.

If it was Pence, Trump would turn on him in the blink of an eye, and most likely begin demanding the House initiate impeachment proceedings against him.

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KGxvi  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:08:43am

re: #75 KGxvi

Also, the Democrats controlled the House when Nixon was president, so Ford couldn’t have been Speaker.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:10:47am

re: #72 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure that’s not true. Gerald Ford, as Speaker of the House, was automatically selected to become VP when Spiro Agnew resigned as per the 25th Amendment.

Oops, I was wrong. Technically Trump can nominate anybody he wants but they still have to be confirmed. Which means right now it would probably be Ryan. After November it’ll be a fucking goat rodeo.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:12:28am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

If it was Pence, Trump would turn on him in the blink of an eye, and most likely begin demanding the House initiate impeachment proceedings against him.

I think I could see a genuine split in the House if that came to pass. Pence could carry the evangelicals, some secret ‘almost never Trumpers’, and some power grabbers.

Putin would adore it!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:12:37am

re: #77 KGxvi

Also, the Democrats controlled the House when Nixon was president, so Ford couldn’t have been Speaker.

Right, just saw that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:13:56am

re: #70 Kragar

You try and tell him that and he still falls back on “we’ll see what happens in court.”

The jackass is even a minister at his local church. Assholes like him are why I’ve turned my back on organized religions my whole life.

Well, religion (whether organised or not) tends to attract people who want to be told what to do or think.

Speaking of religion:

In letters sent over the past several days to Omaha Archbishop George Lucas, Lincoln Bishop James Conley and Grand Island Bishop Joseph Hanefeldt, Peterson is requesting any information on claims of sexual exploitation — including incidents of child pornography or “sexual communication with another person” — by anyone with authority to carry out church functions from Jan. 1, 1978, to the present.

This is not a polite request, according to a national expert on state attorneys general. Peterson’s office said state law gives him joint criminal jurisdiction in all 93 counties.

Archbishop George Lucas stated today the Church would reply with the state government’s request, basically arguing that sunlight is the best disinfectant.

omaha.com

(Omaha World-Herald, more at the link)

That seems to be a quite different stance than the Roman Catholic Church (or indeed any church) takes when asked to turn over records which might detail criminal activity.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:15:07am

re: #79 JordanRules

I think I could see a genuine split in the House if that came to pass. Pence could carry the evangelicals, some secret ‘almost never Trumpers’, and some power grabbers.

Putin would adore it!

It would be an epic clusterfuck, that’s for sure - the GOP would be turned against itself.

And then they’d have the Trumpite base to contend with to boot.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:16:55am

Man, if it is Pence, and I’m like 97% certain it is, then we’re in for quite the shitshow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:18:25am

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

Oops, I was wrong. Technically Trump can nominate anybody he wants but they still have to be confirmed. Which means right now it would probably be Ryan. After November it’ll be a fucking goat rodeo.

As opposed to

a goat fucking rodeo.

Ford was nominated by Nixon. For the most part, Democrats felt that as Agnew was elected as a Republican, and Nixon was a Republican, Nixon should get a pick from his own party under the XXV Amendment.

Ford was nominated to take Agnew’s position on October 12, the first time the vice-presidential vacancy provision of the 25th Amendment had been implemented. The United States Senate voted 92 to 3 to confirm Ford on November 27. Only three Senators, all Democrats, voted against Ford’s confirmation: Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin, Thomas Eagleton of Missouri and William Hathaway of Maine. On December 6, 1973, the House confirmed Ford by a vote of 387 to 35. One hour after the confirmation vote in the House, Ford took the oath of office as Vice President of the United States.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:19:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:22:53am

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

Man, if it is Pence, and I’m like 97% certain it is, then we’re in for quite the shitshow.

The political equivalent of the Chernobyl disaster.

Ultimate meltdown.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:23:35am

Pretty sure this is all academic anyway since I don’t see Pence resigning and I don’t see the GOP wanting to worsen the narrative of horrid dysfunction that an impeachment attempt would create. Most likely scenario is Pence gets frozen out and is only allowed to preside over and break ties in the Senate because that’s pretty much the only thing the Constitution sets aside for him.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:24:08am

What if, like Mr. Throat, we really don’t find out who the masked op-eder is for years?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:24:31am

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

Pretty sure this is all academic anyway since I don’t see Pence resigning and I don’t see the GOP wanting to worsen the narrative of horrid dysfunction that an impeachment attempt would create. Mostly likely scenario is Pence gets frozen out and is only allowed to preside over the Senate because that’s pretty much the only thing the Constitution requires him to do.

But it would roil the GOP, so there’s that.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:25:27am

re: #88 JordanRules

What if, like Mr. Throat, we really don’t find out who the masked op-eder is for years?

Mark Felt was actually competent. The decision to write and publish this thing is the polar opposite of that.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:30:36am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:34:23am

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Mark Felt was actually competent. The decision to write and publish this thing is the polar opposite of that.

That depends on what the writer was trying to accomplish.

If it was to troll liberals or deflect from the Kavanaugh proceedings, it did a masterful job.
If it was meant to shiv Vice-President Pence (by using his verbiage) it also does a masterful job.
If it is to circumvent the Constitution, the letter argues that a fait accompli has already happened and the writer is part of it. That’s damn bold, basically saying “we’re in charge here” not the guy who was elected right on the NYT’s op-ed page.

That last item has people here rightly concerned, along with foreign policy experts, pundits, and constitutional lawyers:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:36:24am

re: #91 Kragar

Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything. #JustDoIt pic.twitter.com

— Kragar

I read that hashtag due to the font on my computer as “Just Dolt.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:38:38am

Thread (thirteen tweets):

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:41:36am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:41:51am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 1:59:58am
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freetoken  Sep 6, 2018 • 2:22:11am
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LastYearsMan  Sep 6, 2018 • 2:46:26am

I don’t think the op-ed writer is Pence. White House leakers have been careful to use other people’s language to hide their identity for a while now.

My guess would be Mnuchin. Relatively social moderate but a tax and trade guy — 2 issues the op-ed writer indicated were most important to him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 2:51:37am

re: #99 LastYearsMan

I don’t think the op-ed writer is Pence. White House leakers have been careful to use other people’s language to hide their identity for a while now.

My guess would be Mnuchin. Relatively social moderate but a tax and trade guy — 2 issues the op-ed writer indicated were most important to him.

If it’s from Pence—and I doubt it—it certainly wasn’t written by Pence. Anything above a 2nd-grade level was written for Pence by someone else. If that’s the case, we’ll find out, and soon. Tomorrow, probably.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 6, 2018 • 2:59:32am

re: #60 teleskiguy

…. you can always just stay at the onsite luxury yurt …

A … luxury yurt … what.the.fuck?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 3:04:54am

re: #100 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If it’s from Pence—and I doubt it—it certainly wasn’t written by Pence. Anything above a 2nd-grade level was written for Pence by someone else. If that’s the case, we’ll find out, and soon. Tomorrow, probably.

It might well have been a collaborative effort on the part of a few officials, not just one. They just decided on one person to act as a front/author.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 3:06:15am

re: #101 Colère Tueur de Lapin

A … luxury yurt … what.the.fuck?

They have kumiss in the minibar.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2018 • 3:44:06am

re: #98 freetoken

Hokkaido earthquake: In pictures

Damn, the gods be angry.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:27:37am

re: #99 LastYearsMan

I don’t think the op-ed writer is Pence. White House leakers have been careful to use other people’s language to hide their identity for a while now.

My guess would be Mnuchin. Relatively social moderate but a tax and trade guy — 2 issues the op-ed writer indicated were most important to him.

That’s actually a good guess. Had never thought about him being it.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:30:44am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:32:39am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

That’s actually a good guess. Had never thought about him being it.

How’s Mnuchin on national security? That was also mentioned in the op-ed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:33:40am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

How’s Mnuchin on national security? That was also mentioned in the op-ed.

Dunno tbh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:34:29am

re: #106 Patricia Kayden

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And his opponent doesn’t give two shits because he’d rather go around whining that Beto swears.

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steve_davis  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:36:46am

re: #25 piratedan

tbh… I could give a shit who wrote the memo… it really doesn’t matter to me in the grand scheme of things. What matters to me is that these folks have subverted the constitution in order to continuing to promote and implement their own political agenda.

If Trump is unfit, then declare him so and have him step down and promote the VP into the position. Yes, I understand that Pence doesn’t have an IQ above melted ice cream, but again… that doesn’t matter. You follow the law. You abide by the Constitution. Isn’t that what these fucking originalists were all about?

The GOP (I’m sure) knows what the score is and how we have a “caretaker” government of GOP apparatchiks running the show and despite knowing that this is against the law, so they’re on board with this too…..

Once upon a time, I really thought the GOP was going to generate their own Reichstag fire as an excuse to make all of this permanent, instead, it appears that they’ve chosen a less obvious but just as illegal way to continue to control the process…. they get to let Trump continue to take fire, use him as a prop to continue showing the rubes how persecuted they all are (with Faux telling them said same every damn day) and still all the while, continue to subvert the country and loot us of both our money, and our legal rights….

I’m at the point right now, that I would love Mueller to drop a few more indictments of members of Congress and the Senate and put the motherfucking kibosh on their entire house of cards….

Damnit, man! “Could not” give a shit. You are directly responsible for the breakdown of civilization here.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:39:38am

Conservatives are literally burning their shoes over an athlete being highlighted in ad campaign while the President is pretty much out of control/unstable and that’s from people who work for him. What the hell Anerica?

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harlequinade  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:41:19am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Oooorrrr

It’s a page out of the Surkov playbook. It’s written by someone who’s a loyalist to muddy the water after the Woodward’s book news and Kavanaugh’s perjury news.

Let’s face it, this is exactly the distraction Trump needs:
He gets to shout about anonymous sources
The media tries to work out who wrote it
The left was meant to read “resistance” and fawn over it, but now have to reference the lie to explain that’s not what it is, muddying that term

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:48:03am

re: #112 harlequinade

Oooorrrr

It’s a page out of the Surkov playbook. It’s written by someone who’s a loyalist to muddy the water after the Woodward’s book news and Kavanaugh’s perjury news.

Let’s face it, this is exactly the distraction Trump needs:
He gets to shout about anonymous sources
The media tries to work out who wrote it
The left was meant to read “resistance” and fawn over it, but now have to reference the lie to explain that’s not what it is, muddying that term

That’s a possibility yes. Man I just wish there was a way to get away from this madness.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:49:36am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Dunno tbh.

Maybe it was more than one person - as I wrote earlier, perhaps a collaborative effort with one individual as the author for publication purposes.

It would make it a bit more difficult to track down any one specific person.

In any event, Trump’s gotta be going crazy with paranoia right about now. As if he wasn’t paranoid enough already.

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steve_davis  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:51:11am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

Opinion piece by Steven Pike, which lines up with some of those here (including me):

Anonymous White House Writer Isn’t A Patriot. They’re Betraying The Constitution.

(More at Huffington Post)

“I was one of Caligula’s henchmen who worked to thwart his worst impulses during his time as Caesar. For instance, originally he wanted to make his chicken a senator. With assistance from other insiders, we substituted his horse, and really, it turned out he was smarter than Chuck Grassley, so fuck off with your snarky attacks on the resistance.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:53:05am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Maybe it was more than one person - as I wrote earlier, perhaps a collaborative effort with one individual as the author for publication purposes.

It would make it a bit more difficult to track down any one specific person.

In any event, Trump’s gotta be going crazy with paranoia right about now. As if he wasn’t paranoid enough already.

He’s going to be obsessed with finding out who it was as we approach Hurricane season.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:55:39am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:56:44am

re: #117 Patricia Kayden

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God he is so fucking stupid.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 4:57:33am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

He’s going to be obsessed with finding out who it was as we approach Hurricane season.

Oh you bet he will. It’ll stick in his craw to the exclusion of damn near everything else.

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harlequinade  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:04:20am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Me too. It’s ridiculous.

And, that’s the damage. Who/how do we trust?

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b.d.(secret op-ed writer)  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:14:12am

re: #117 Patricia Kayden

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:17:39am
Dolores O’Riordan, the 46-year-old lead singer of Irish rock group The Cranberries, died accidentally from drowning in a London hotel bathtub due to alcohol intoxication, according to an inquest.

The Westminster Coroner’s Court heard Thursday — on what would have been O’Riordan’s 47th birthday - that she had been drinking heavily before she was found dead Jan. 15 at the Park Lane Hilton hotel, The Guardian reported.

pagesix.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:25:13am

re: #120 harlequinade

Me too. It’s ridiculous.

And, that’s the damage. Who/how do we trust?

It just gets more and more absurd by the day.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:25:46am

re: #119 Dr Lizardo

Oh you bet he will. It’ll stick in his craw to the exclusion of damn near everything else.

And Fox and Friends will egg it on.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:33:04am

I was just looking at Amazon movie reviews and caught all the troofers dumping on Flight 93.
It occurred to me that Trump’s demand for changes in the libel laws, part of his campaign against free speech, would probably destroy the conspiracy industry that helped elect him. Ironic, isn’t it?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:33:50am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

And Fox and Friends will egg it on.

Let’s not forget Hannity and Alex Jones. They’ll fill his head with all manner of bullshit - not that they already don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:37:17am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Let’s not forget Hannity and Alex Jones. They’ll fill his head with all manner of bullshit - not that they already don’t.

Of course.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:38:03am

re: #125 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I was just looking at Amazon movie reviews and caught all the troofers dumping on Flight 93.
It occurred to me that Trump’s demand for changes in the libel laws, part of his campaign against free speech, would probably destroy the conspiracy industry that helped elect him. Ironic, isn’t it?

Kind of how their opposition to Net Neutrality screws them too.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:44:19am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Kind of how their opposition to Net Neutrality screws them too.

The right-wingers are morons; not that I need to state that, but. So, this morning, NPR was discussing how the orange-shitgoblin and various ‘conservatives’ are talking about how to regulate Google, faceplant, twitter, etc. as public utilities for regulatory purposes. This flies in the face of the revocation of Net Neutrality that was initially imposed because the ‘tube that connect all the computers are public utilities and then argued that those ‘tube are not in the public domain.

IOKIYAR making the rationale.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:45:39am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:45:50am

re: #129 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The right-wingers are morons; not that I need to state that, but. So, this morning, NPR was discussing how the orange-shitgoblin and various ‘conservatives’ are talking about how to regulate Google, faceplant, twitter, etc. as public utilities for regulatory purposes. This flies in the face of the revocation of Net Neutrality that was initially imposed because the ‘tube that connect all the computers are public utilities and then argued that those ‘tube are not in the public domain.

IOKIYAR making the rationale.

They don’t have a well thought out ideology do they?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:46:20am

re: #130 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Props to him.

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Nyet  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:46:58am

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

*во

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:58:11am

re: #3 jaunte

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“He’s not murdering me or people I like so it’s all good.”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 5:58:19am

re: #129 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The right-wingers are morons; not that I need to state that, but. So, this morning, NPR was discussing how the orange-shitgoblin and various ‘conservatives’ are talking about how to regulate Google, faceplant, twitter, etc. as public utilities for regulatory purposes. This flies in the face of the revocation of Net Neutrality that was initially imposed because the ‘tube that connect all the computers are public utilities and then argued that those ‘tube are not in the public domain.

IOKIYAR making the rationale.

I’m so old I remember when conservatives were against government regulation of private industry, even utilities.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:00:34am

re: #135 Sir John Barron

I’m so old I remember when conservatives were against government regulation of private industry, even utilities.

That was before they became a Cult of Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:01:32am

re: #121 b.d.(fake news! fake crimes!)

When times are tough, lean on your most committed supporters
— Josh Marshall

He hit a curveball that was just hanging over the plate, but a home run is still a home run.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:08:48am

re: #46 JordanRules

Trump’s last refuge - using murderous dictator’s Jong Un’s endorsement.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:12:41am

re: #138 lawhawk

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He has repeatedly shown he prefers autocrats to democrats from the minute he announced his candidacy.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:13:22am

re: #61 Kragar

One of the guys in my office is in his district. Total Trumper. Evangelical fundie. Family values, the whole nine yards. This is the guy who says he won’t get a pet because he doesn’t want to be tempted to love anything without a soul. When we do talk politics, he’s the one who talks about locking up Clinton and Obama, and is fully behind Trump.

He’s says we need to wait and see how the trial plays out before he’ll even think about not voting for Hunter.

Fucktard.

Hillary should be locked up but for Hunter, Manafort, etc we have to wait for the trials to play out and even if found guilty or plead guilty they still aren’t really guilty because deep state, etc.

////

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:14:26am

re: #138 lawhawk

Kim Jong Un of North Korea proclaims “unwavering faith in President Trump.” Thank you to Chairman Kim. We will get it done together!

— Donald J. Trump

Your account may have been hacked.

/

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:15:03am

Whoever denied it supplied it?

Yeah, they’re going to admit that they wrote what is arguably a treasonous op-ed by admitting what everyone has long surmised - that everyone in Trumpworld is compromised and complicit in criminality including ignoring the president because he’s incompetent and can’t do his job, and they are treating this like day care?

There are no heroes in the WH. This isn’t the resistance. These are GOP fuckers who are looking out for their personal future and are trying to pivot away from Trump knowing how bad things are about to become.

They haven’t saved the Republic. They’ve undermined it at every opportunity, and the damage they’re doing is incalculable. The solution isn’t to keep the GOPers around, but voting them permanently out of office. They’re the problem.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:15:12am

re: #141 Sir John Barron

Your account may have been hacked.

/

My favorite Obama tweet was the one where he quoted Kim’s praise of him at the height of the Benghazi mess.

/

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:16:04am

re: #141 Sir John Barron

TREASON!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:18:08am

re: #143 Sir John Barron

My favorite Obama tweet was the one where he quoted Kim’s praise of him at the height of the Benghazi mess.

/

I’m particularly fond of Obama’s praise of Assad during the IRS controversy.//

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:20:33am

re: #144 lawhawk

TREASON!

At least he’s discovered the word!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:23:15am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

Kind of how their opposition to Net Neutrality screws them too.

Hoist by their own petard.

BTW, a petard (“little fart”) was a small bomb used against fortifications in the early days of gunpowder warfare. An insane intrepid sapper would rush up to the wall, place the bomb and light the fuse. He would then retire in haste, but fuses were unreliable in those days, and the fleeing sapper could be blown up by a premature detonation, “hoist by his own petard.”

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:23:21am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:24:45am

re: #148 lawhawk

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Gah!

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:25:20am

Imgur


Good morning!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:25:50am

re: #147 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Hoist by their own petard.

BTW, a petard (“little fart”) was a small bomb used against fortifications in the early days of gunpowder warfare. An insane intrepid sapper would rush up to the wall, place the bomb and light the fuse. He would then retire in haste, but fuses were unreliable in those days, and the fleeing sapper could be blown up by a premature detonation, “hoist by his own petard.”

“Hoist on his own petard” is so annoying.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:36:17am
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:38:31am
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:39:09am
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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:40:04am

I just watched episode one of Jim Carrey’s new Showtime series, Kidding.

Holy crap, is it dark af.

Kidding | Season 1 Premiere | Full Episode (TV14)

Also - Every Van Halen song, from worst to best, by Chuck Klosterman.

I’m up to around #82. Klosterman is not the least bit kind to the Gary Cherone era.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:40:36am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Is your coworker the sort of person who would throw his wife under a bus to save his own skin, as Hunter has done?

Forget the issue of whether or not Hunter is guilty of the crimes of which he is accused. His loyalty to his wife shows that he doesn’t give a diddly damn about your coworker friend other than a vote.

What could be more Republican than throwing your wife under the bus to save your ass? There’s no better example of the first commandment of the Republican Party which is “Look Out For #1 And Stab Everyone Else In The Back”!

This is the end result of a party that is totally corrupted by the malignant narcissism of Ayn Rand’s Objectivist religion!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:42:25am

I’m imagining one of those televised cabinet meetings DJT likes to hold where he makes everyone around the table slober praise all over him, only this time he’s yelling at everyone demanding they tell him who ordered the code red wrote the NYT op-ed.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:42:49am

re: #154 Belafon

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Of course, they don’t ask these people who the President* is—isn’t it about 20% in every poll who don’t know? Then you ask if the President* is doing a good job—about 40% always say “Yeah, sure, why not?” Getting below 40% takes work!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:42:52am

re: #155 makeitstop

I just watched episode one of Jim Carrey’s new Showtime series, Kidding.

Holy crap, is it dark af.

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, by Chuck Klosterman.

I’m up to around #82. Klosterman is not the least bit kind to the Gary Cherone era.

High-School me doing the wake and bake would chose “Ain’t Talkin’ Bout Love” as #1.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:43:47am

re: #154 Belafon

“Hah, my approval is actually 47% because you have to add 10% to every poll because fake news!”

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:44:55am

re: #159 Barefoot Grin

High-School me doing the wake and bake would chose “Ain’t Talkin’ Bout Love” as #1.

I haven’t looked. No spoilers, plz!!

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:49:06am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:50:02am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:52:10am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:52:45am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:52:46am

re: #163 JordanRules

Everything is fine.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:53:20am

re: #166 Sir John Barron

Everything is fine.

That’s totally what they should have named the op-ed.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:55:21am

re: #161 makeitstop

I haven’t looked. No spoilers, plz!!

Ha! I haven’t looked either.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:55:21am

re: #165 JordanRules

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OFFS

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:55:42am

re: #165 JordanRules

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That’s why I hate this guy! He looks just like Kyle MacLachlan in Dune.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:55:53am

re: #164 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Interesting!

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Dave In Austin  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:56:28am

Jesus? The hearings. Coryn(sic) is being a blue blood dick.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:57:31am

re: #164 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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I’m guessing it was the Prince of Wales, or maybe Francis Bacon!//

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 6:59:13am

re: #171 JordanRules

Interesting!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:01:15am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:02:50am

They’re really fighting the Kavanaugh nomination hard.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:03:18am

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

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That would certainly free Booker up for his presidential run!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:04:33am

re: #171 JordanRules

Interesting!

OK, but “choose”?

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:04:59am

re: #63 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. I pointed this out earlier today.

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If Pence is protected because he is elected, then why would the New York Times say the reason they are protecting the author is because he is senior staff and could get fired?

I understand that could be cover for Mikey.

Actually I don’t care who it is, I just want to see further shots fired at Trump so that he freaks out and becomes so much an issue the Republicans have to boot his fat ass.

Oh yeah…morning!

It’s a bit cooler here in central Ohio today. Yay!

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:05:02am

ROFL!!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:05:03am

It was reported this morning that initial unemployment claims fell to only 203k, the lowest level in nearly 49 years when the workforce was half the current size, so Americans continue to enjoy unprecedented job security. Thanks Obama!

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:07:27am

re: #178 Sir John Barron

OK, but “choose”?

Of course she’s ridiculous with her poll and what not, they are all ridiculous. Everybody involved is ridiculous. I believe her guesses have some weight behind them though.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:08:07am

re: #64 JordanRules

That implicates the NYT then since part of their reason for going along with this extraordinary anonymous thing is based on the person’s job being in jeopardy.

And of course…Jordan makes the same point just one post after Frank’s that I commented on. Doh!

That is the issue with wanting to read the whole thread and comment.

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William Lewis  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:10:43am

re: #155 makeitstop

I’m up to around #82. Klosterman is not the least bit kind to the Gary Cherone era.

#3 should be #1. #16 should be #2. I stopped looking too closely, the author and I are coming from very different places/tastes.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:13:45am

re: #184 William Lewis

#3 should be #1. #16 should be #2. I stopped looking too closely, the author and I are coming from very different places/tastes.

I’m slow-walking it, and taking time to check out a lot of tunes I’m not familiar with. Mostly from that last album, ‘A Different Kind of Truth.’ Roth lets his liberal lyricist flag fly big-time on that album.

And the song ‘Bullethead’ is a right banger. Never heard it before.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:15:39am

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

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This is stunning. Wow.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:16:50am

Should we be telling the Trumper’s that the people around him are preventing him from doing his job?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:18:18am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:20:04am

re: #188 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Fake news but even if true it’s OK because MAGA.

///

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:20:34am
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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:21:46am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

That’s actually a good guess. Had never thought about him being it.

Happy,

I see you changed your avatar. I take it that is from your recent trip.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:23:02am

re: #187 Belafon

Should we be telling the Trumper’s that the people around him are preventing him from doing his job?

Very much so, yes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:25:49am

re: #191 ObserverArt

Happy,

I see you changed your avatar. I take it that is from your recent trip.

From a past one actually.

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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:26:04am

re: #181 Big Beautiful Door

It was reported this morning that initial unemployment claims fell to only 203k, the lowest level in nearly 49 years when the workforce was half the current size, so Americans continue to enjoy unprecedented job security. Thanks Obama!

This is my personal theory for why Cheeto Benito’s approval numbers are still so (relatively) high: the ~21% “Strongly Approve” is his cult, while the rest are GOPers/Independents too embarrassed to identify as GOPers who have the exact same attitude as the OP/ed writer - But muh tax cuts! Muh deregulation! Muh high stock market and job numbers that I no longer have to credit the black guy with!

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:26:19am

re: #175 The Vicious Babushka

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Dave In Austin  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:26:40am

Booker and the Dems are going there. Booker is challenging Conryn to bring charges on him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:27:20am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:27:37am
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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:28:25am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

Great, more grieving parents for KKKavanaugh to spitefully snub.

/spit

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:29:21am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

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Goddamnit

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:31:01am

re: #150 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

A great image of a proud cardinal stance.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:32:13am

50 years late, but:

Special Breakthrough Prize In Fundamental Physics Awarded To Jocelyn Bell Burnell For Discovery Of Pulsars

For the seventh year, the Breakthrough Prizes will recognize the world’s top scientists. Each prize is $3 million and presented in the fields of Life Sciences (up to four per year), Fundamental Physics (one per year) and Mathematics (one per year). In addition, up to three New Horizons in Physics and up to three New Horizons in Mathematics Prizes are given out to junior researchers each year.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:32:50am

re: #196 Dave In Austin

Booker and the Dems are going there. Booker is challenging Conryn to bring charges on him.

I’m not watching, just reading along here.

Proud of the Dems on that committee. This is what fighting efficiently with extremely limited resources looks like.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:33:51am

re: #174 JordanRules

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Nick Ayers:

I knew a lot of his type when I was in college in Georgia. Go to Sigma Chi, Kappa Alpha, etc. and those charming old boys could schmooze and disdain all at the same time in a way you don’t find elsewhere.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:34:57am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

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RESET THE CLOCK!

Hey, today’s a good day to talk about gun control. IT’s been way too long since Columbine. Or VA Tech. Or San Bernadino. Or Dallas. Or Binghamton. Or any school shooting.

But the GOP/NRA have only one answer to this - sell MORE guns.

We’re the only nation in the OECD that has the kind of carnage we have here - and it’s due to the easy availability of guns to people who should not have them, easy access to guns that should not be in civilian hands, and the cost to society includes all the health care costs, mental health costs, lost productivity, and incarceration/criminal justice costs.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:37:19am

Please go there with this turd.

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BigPapa  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:37:48am

Democrats are fighting today. This pleases me. Booker and Harris are bringing it.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:38:18am

re: #197 The Vicious Babushka

New York Daily News ✔
@NYDailyNews
Multiple people dead in ‘active shooter’ situation in downtown Cincinnati nydn.us

10:24 AM - Sep 6, 2018

Oh no! Now what???

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Jay C  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:40:13am

re: #203 makeitstop

re: #196 Dave In Austin

Booker and the Dems are going there. Booker is challenging Conryn to bring charges on him.

I’m not watching, just reading along here.

Proud of the Dems on that committee. This is what fighting efficiently with extremely limited resources looks like.

OK: no parliamentarian I, but I’m kinda hazy as to exactly what sort of “charges” Cornyn, or any individual Senator can “bring” against another - or group of others. IIRC (probably not) the Senate’s internal discipline rules pretty much amount to 1) a formal censure by the entire body, or 2) bitching and griping in the cloakroom (and/or the press).

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:40:26am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:41:11am
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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:41:34am

re: #203 makeitstop

I’m not watching, just reading along here.

Proud of the Dems on that committee. This is what fighting efficiently with extremely limited resources looks like.

I’m proud of them too. They keep firing shots and while it probably won’t prevent Kavanaugh’s nomination it is damaging to him and the damn Republicans.

Maybe it makes more people aware of heavy-handed Republican tactics and caused them more votes. Every damn little bit helps.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:42:23am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:44:57am

re: #206 Dave In Austin

Please go there with this turd.

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Julies campaign said not to respond to it. Prolly right. I deleted my response.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:44:58am

So, a possible bank robbery gone wrong?

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Jay C  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:46:35am

re: #208 ObserverArt

Oh no! Now what???

Shooting incident at the Fifth Third Bank in downtown Cincy. So far two dead (including shooter), five injured.
Site said to be “loading dock and lobby” of bank: so maybe an attempted robbery gone sideways?

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:50:10am

re: #216 Jay C

Shooting incident at the Fifth Third Bank in downtown Cincy. So far two dead (including shooter?), five injured.
Site said to be “loading dock and lobby” of bank: so maybe an attempted robbery gone sideways?

That is Fifth Third’s big office building right on Fountain Square. There is probably a banking office in it.

I’m going to take a guess it is either a domestic or pissed off ex-employee thing.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:50:52am

re: #216 Jay C

Fifth Third Bank

Not to make light, but that’s just such a weird name.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:51:37am

re: #173 Big Beautiful Door

I’m guessing it was….or maybe Francis Bacon!//

Joe Bacon

:o

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:51:46am

re: #198 JordanRules

RELEASE THE MEMO

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:53:39am

Kavanaugh lied his ass off to Congress.

Fuck this nonsense. We all knew he was lying, but there it is.

Trump and GOP wanted to ram this nomination through because they want to repeal Roe, and gut civil and human rights.

Want the proof?

There it is.

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jeffreyw  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:54:15am

re: #201 ObserverArt

A great image of a proud cardinal stance.

He was sent to the store but forgot what he was supposed to pick up so he’s standing in front of the bin, hoping he will remember.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:54:16am
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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:55:07am

Cute alert: Scientists adopt baby Pallas Cat.

Hello. I am cute.
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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:55:58am

Harris was a former prosecutor. You don’t ask questions you don’t already know the answer to. She knew the answer to that question. And Kavanaugh knows that she knows.

The more we see, the more this reeks.

And yet the GOP will try ramming this nomination through because they’ve got the nominal numbers to make it happen.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:57:30am

re: #221 lawhawk

Kavanaugh lied his ass off to Congress.

Fuck this nonsense. We all knew he was lying, but there it is.

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Trump and GOP wanted to ram this nomination through because they want to repeal Roe, and gut civil and human rights.

Want the proof?

There it is.

Disbar his ass.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:57:46am

Holy shit.

Kavanaugh may still be confirmed, but how fucking bad is the GOP going to look now that those emails are out?

Booker and Harris are giants in my book. Hirono, too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:58:35am

Booker and Harris just rose highly on my list of 2020 hopefuls.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:58:36am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 7:59:01am

re: #229 JordanRules

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Of course.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:01:21am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:04:07am

Glad we have these Senators. The op ed is important but Kavanaugh can’t go to the backpages.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:07:42am

Collins, the ball is in your court, ma’am.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:09:23am

re: #221 lawhawk

Kavanaugh lied his ass off to Congress.

Fuck this nonsense. We all knew he was lying, but there it is.

Trump and GOP wanted to ram this nomination through because they want to repeal Roe, and gut civil and human rights.

Want the proof?

There it is.

He told Collins it was “settled law”? I mean you could say every SCOTUS decision is “settled law”. Until it isn’t.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:09:31am
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BigPapa  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:12:06am

Harris brought a bucket of brass tacks to Kavanaugh yesterday. Booker goes #BringIt today releasing docs the GOP were trying to hide. Hirono and the rest of em jump on.

This is awesome.

The rules of decorum have been destroyed by the GOP, most notably with Merrick Garland. That message should be hammered home daily.

The right is in freak out mode. AM Radio is in fully campaign swing, obviously coordinated: the ‘radical left’ is hysterical, acting up, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:13:01am

We needed this fight.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:13:55am

The discussion has moved on, but I saw this, and:

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Edited to make private for people with flashing-light issues.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:14:42am

Heh:

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:16:03am

re: #236 BigPapa

Harris brought a bucket of brass tacks to Kavanaugh yesterday. Booker goes #BringIt today releasing docs the GOP were trying to hide. Hirono and the rest of em jump on.

This is awesome.

The rules of decorum have been destroyed by the GOP, most notably with Merrick Garland. That message should be hammered home daily.

The right is in freak out mode. AM Radio is in fully campaign swing, obviously coordinated: the ‘radical left’ is hysterical, acting up, etc.

I see. So, True Conservative American Patriots “fight” and “fight back” while the Radical Left, “acts up”, “gets hysterical”.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:17:28am

I want a reporter to investigate and write a piece about who is doing these headlines, what the media’s best practices around this are and how it’s changed in the social media age. Because this keeps happening.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:19:04am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

Uncivil even!

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:19:09am

I just got an email from democrats.com. They’re endorsing Nixon over Cuomo in the primary next week.

Gah. I have my problems with Cuomo, but I’ve got even bigger problems with celebrity candidates.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:20:41am

In before the first editorial decrying the Democrats’ lack of decorum for violating Senate norms on “Committee Confidential”.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:21:53am

re: #243 makeitstop

When does a celebrity that wants to get into politics stop being a celebrity candidate?

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:23:18am

re: #245 Belafon

When does a celebrity that wants to get into politics stop being a celebrity candidate?

After they get a little experience, maybe?

She couldn’t run for, say, city council first? Why do they always try to jump to the Big Chair on the first attempt?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:23:45am

re: #243 makeitstop

I just got an email from democrats.com. They’re endorsing Nixon over Cuomo in the primary next week.

Gah. I have my problems with Cuomo, but I’ve got even bigger problems with celebrity candidates.

I just wish Nixon and those like her would just start at the ground and move up. There’s an arrogance that many celebs turned politicians have that really bug me. It’s easy to shit on so called career politicians but nearly all of them work their way from the lower levels up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:24:09am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

True Conservative American Patriots “fight” and “fight back” while the ‘radical left’, “acts up”, “gets hysterical”.

“Know Nothing Screamers”, if you will…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:24:17am

re: #246 makeitstop

After they get a little experience, maybe?

She couldn’t run for, say, city council first? Why do they always try to jump to the Big Chair on the first attempt?

That’s exactly what drives me bonkers about them.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:26:24am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I just wish Nixon and those like her would just start at the ground and move up. There’s an arrogance that many celebs turned politicians have that really bug me. It’s easy to shit on so called career politicians but nearly all of them work their way from the lower levels up.

I agree, although of course one could point to Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenneger as two celebs who went straight to running for gov. But I still don’t think it’s good practice.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:26:40am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I just wish Nixon and those like her would just start at the ground and move up. There’s an arrogance that many celebs turned politicians have that really bug me. It’s easy to shit on so called career politicians but nearly all of them work their way from the lower levels up.

Exactly. It’s the same problem I’ve got with people like Jill Stein (besides her love for Putin). She does nothing for four years, then runs for president.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:27:43am

re: #229 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:28:05am

re: #250 Sir John Barron

I agree, although of course one could point to Ronald Reagan and Arnold Schwarzenneger as two celebs who went straight to running for gov. But I still don’t think it’s good practice.

They were unqualified too. Arnie and Reagan had no business running for governor without gaining experience first.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:28:49am

re: #251 makeitstop

Exactly. It’s the same problem I’ve got with people like Jill Stein (besides her love for Putin). She does nothing for four years, then runs for president.

Exactly. What the hell is Jill Stein doing now? What the hell did she do between 2012-16 for that matter. So many people think that ideology is the only thing that matters to governance and it just doesn’t.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:28:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:29:08am

A fifth victim has died at UC Medical.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:30:02am

re: #246 makeitstop

After they get a little experience, maybe?

She couldn’t run for, say, city council first? Why do they always try to jump to the Big Chair on the first attempt?

Do you think that teacher of the year shouldn’t have run for the House seat she just won the primary for?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:30:13am

re: #255 JordanRules

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She shouldn’t have to go anywhere. There are plenty of Republican and Democratic men who have been around longer.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:30:34am
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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:31:51am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:32:47am
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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:33:06am

re: #257 Belafon

Do you think that teacher of the year shouldn’t have run for the House seat she just won the primary for?

I’d wager that Teacher of the Year is a lot more qualified than ‘Samantha Jones’ ‘Miranda Hobbes’ from Sex and the City.

(Edited because I looked it up and had the wrong character.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:34:19am

re: #260 lawhawk

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I love receipts.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:34:41am

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A fifth victim has died at UC Medical.

#BREAKING: @JohnCranley “This is not normal…we as a country need to figure this out.”

Got it covered, Mayor:

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:34:55am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

I just wish Nixon and those like her would just start at the ground and move up. There’s an arrogance that many celebs turned politicians have that really bug me. It’s easy to shit on so called career politicians but nearly all of them work their way from the lower levels up.

There was talk of Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) running for elected office.

And you know what? I have no problem with that. He can start with his local City Council, or even Mayor, and work his way up. He seems like an affable enough fellow, to be honest, and thus far, I haven’t heard anything scandalous about him and he doesn’t strike me as an unintelligent fellow.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:35:36am

re: #257 Belafon

Do you think that teacher of the year shouldn’t have run for the House seat she just won the primary for?

The House is honestly a bit different than a Senate seat or Governorship IMO. I hear what you’re saying but at the same time, I’m tired of arrogant outsiders who think they can just go in and do this. It’s exactly why we’re stuck with Trump right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:36:25am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:36:34am

re: #259 JordanRules

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And your stunts on college campuses are what exactly, Ben? Booker is doing what a Senator is supposed to do but I wouldn’t take someone like you seriously considering you spent your law classes jacking off to yourself and your ramblings.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:37:02am

If this isn’t the definition of WHITE PRIVILEGE I don’t know what is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:37:58am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

There was talk of Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) running for elected office.

And you know what? I have no problem with that. He can start with his local City Council, or even Mayor, and work his way up. He seems like an affable enough fellow, to be honest, and thus far, I haven’t heard anything scandalous about him and he doesn’t strike me as an unintelligent fellow.

I don’t either. I just wish they’d do the necessarily work to build up their resumes. If you are just running on your name which is what Dwayne, Nixon, and others like them have or would be doing, then build up your resume.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:38:41am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

If this isn’t the definition of WHITE PRIVILEGE I don’t know what is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:38:53am

re: #262 makeitstop

I’d wager that Teacher of the Year is a lot more qualified than ‘Samantha Jones’ from Sex and the City.

Right. Not really a fair comp IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:38:55am
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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:39:15am
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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:40:07am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

The House is honestly a bit different than a Senate seat or Governorship IMO. I hear what you’re saying but at the same time, I’m tired of arrogant outsiders who think they can just go in and do this. It’s exactly why we’re stuck with Trump right now.

99% of the reason we ended up with Trump is because he let his white supremacy fly.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:40:53am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

Disagree about mayor. Especially mayor of NYC.

NYC has a population greater than all but a handful of states. It has one of the most diverse populations in the nation and its needs are unique among cities, let alone the nation.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:41:00am

re: #274 lawhawk

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Man, how great would it be if they fought off this nomination?

It’s the longest of long shots, but they’re landing some pretty solid body blows with this stuff.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:41:12am

With the recent revelations I had to contact Robby Portman…again. Third time this week.

Read if you want.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:41:56am

re: #275 Belafon

99% of the reason we ended up with Trump is because he let his white supremacy fly.

Of course, it is but you can’t tell me that part of the problem is we elected someone who has no idea about governing. I don’t think Nixon is stupid like Trump is but I do think she’d be way out of her league being governor of our third largest state without any governing experience.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:42:15am

re: #262 makeitstop

I’d wager that Teacher of the Year is a lot more qualified than ‘Samantha Jones’ from Sex and the City.

I think it’s fair to at least consider her full resume - education, advocacy etc.

I am truly conflicted on this one, but I obviously defer to yall to know who to elect since I’m not an NYer and I also defer to the general principle that primaries are good and healthy.

I probably have to make the judgement on a case by case basis and let people run. Celebrity can mean so much and so little. All the offices and circumstances are different.

I am a both sides-er on this. Ack!

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:42:31am

re: #276 lawhawk

Disagree about mayor. Especially mayor of NYC.

NYC has a population greater than all but a handful of states. It has one of the most diverse populations in the nation and its needs are unique among cities, let alone the nation.

If someone wants to get involved in politics in a major metro area, then of course, one needs to start small and work their way up; Mayor of the Big Apple is one of those brass ring positions.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:42:48am

It’s fair to use Reagan as a comparison to Nixon when having celebrities running for office. Trump, on the other hand, hasn’t had a comparable candidate since possibly Andrew Jackson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:43:42am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:45:25am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well someone wrote it.

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Skip Intro  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:45:44am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

How’s Mnuchin on national security? That was also mentioned in the op-ed.

Depends on how much money is in it for him.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:47:20am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Of course, it is but you can’t tell me that part of the problem is we elected someone who has no idea about governing. I don’t think Nixon is stupid like Trump is but I do think she’d be way out of her league being governor of our third largest state without any governing experience.

Trump is supposedly a businessman. Now, I know, we all saw through his scam, but his other sell was his experience. And no, he’s not failing because he is running the government like a business. He’s failing because he has no clue (and I think is barely holding onto sanity).

Really, though, all I’m arguing against is that somehow being a celibrity should be a disqualifier. I think arguments of qualifications are completely valid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:47:39am

this entire thread…yikes!

some highlights:

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William Lewis  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:47:48am

Been busy this past week doing my new full time hotel job. Now today is my first regular Thursday/Friday days off. So I’m crunching numbers.

Anyone here driving a Kia? They seem to be the cheapest autos out there as well as somewhat “what’s a credit rating? mine is -8000” friendly. Looking online at either the Rio coupe or the Soul sort-of SUV (FWD not AWD) as both are coming in with payments under $250 a month, buy or lease.

Any other suggestions?

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:48:02am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

The House is honestly a bit different than a Senate seat or Governorship IMO. I hear what you’re saying but at the same time, I’m tired of arrogant outsiders who think they can just go in and do this. It’s exactly why we’re stuck with Trump right now.

No, we have Trump because of our citizens voting for him.

And that is why celebrities can run and win.

We are a democracy and we get what we vote for.

The problem is us (the collective USA).

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:48:45am

But, I’ll ask this: Why is Nixon doing so well against Cuomo? From what I read, she did well in the debate against him. And where were the other challengers?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:49:28am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:50:30am

re: #286 Belafon

Trump is supposedly a businessman. Now, I know, we all saw through his scam, but his other sell was his experience. And no, he’s not failing because he is running the government like a business. He’s failing because he has no clue (and I think is barely holding onto sanity).

Really, though, all I’m arguing against is that somehow being a celibrity should be a disqualifier. I think arguments of qualifications are completely valid.

Fair enough. I understand what you’re saying and I agree Trump is unique in this regard but stil, I haven’t seen anything from Nixon that indictates that she understands governing New York. Her whole sell to me honestly seems to me is “I’m more progressive than Cuomo, vote for me.” And honestly that would be fit on a much lower basis but being a governor is os much more than ideology.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:50:46am

re: #269 The Vicious Babushka

If this isn’t the definition of WHITE PRIVILEGE I don’t know what is.

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I doubt you could go a year in Columbus. I doubt you could go a month. Columbus police are real tough on that. It is an easy money violation and they loves their easy money.

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dangerman  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:51:11am

havent had a chance to do this mornings reading / homework - or even readh trhough this thread

im out on a job today. left home early and not much free time

so i’ll just drop this in from electoral-vote.com

Possibility one: Donald Trump is incompetent and incapable, and because Congress and his cabinet refuse to take the constitutionally-mandated steps for dealing with that (impeachment or invoking the 25th Amendment), a group of unelected folks who effectively answer to nobody are ignoring both the law and the structure of the executive branch in a desperate attempt to minimize the damage done.

Possibility two: Trump is presently not properly subject to impeachment and/or invocation of the 25th Amendment, but has so fully lost control of his staff that a group of unelected folks who effectively answer to nobody are utterly flaunting his constitutionally-delegated authority, and so are effectively in the midst of waging a coup-d-état.

To put the two possibilities more simply, either the rebels are justified in what they are doing, which would mean Trump needs to go, or the rebels are not justified, which would mean they need to go. Until one (or possibly both) of those two things happens, the executive branch is dangerously dysfunctional.

either way “a group of unelected folks who effectively answer to nobody” are wielding power that is not theirs

the ‘unelected judges’ argument is always a silly one - they are duly appointed
this group of unelected people is real

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:53:37am

re: #290 Belafon

But, I’ll ask this: Why is Nixon doing so well against Cuomo? From what I read, she did well in the debate against him. And where were the other challengers?

Nixon isn’t exactly doing well. Polling still shows her down by something like 30 points, though the data is pre-debate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:54:10am

Celebrity politicians aside. I am loving this show of solidarity over Kavanaugh. All the Republicans and right wingers complaining about it need to talk to Judge Garland who didn’t even get so much as a hearing. Kavanaugh has gotten that. He’s also exposed himself to be an ugly person and a liar undeserving of a SCOTUS seat.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:54:52am

re: #280 JordanRules

I think it’s fair to at least consider her full resume - education, advocacy etc.

I am truly conflicted on this one, but I obviously defer to yall to know who to elect since I’m not an NYer and I also defer to the general principle that primaries are good and healthy.

I probably have to make the judgement on a case by case basis and let people run. Celebrity can mean so much and so little. All the offices and circumstances are different.

I am a both sides-er on this. Ack!

Nixon’s heart is in the right place, I’ll give her that - she’s been in the fight for LGBT rights and supports Planned Parenthood and the DREAM act.

But as Lawhawk pointed out, New York is a very complex place, and with it come very complex issues. It ain’t amateur hour, and she’d likely get chewed up by the career politicians in this state. It’s an office that demands a fair amount of procedural experience.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:55:12am

re: #288 William Lewis

Payments under $250/month is what everyone wanted back in the day when I worked in auto sales (late 1990’s, at a Saturn dealer).

Pretty good, I’d say, depending of course on whether that’s in your disposable income range.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:56:06am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One thing Lawrence O’Donnell said about Coats last night. Since he is Director of National Intelligence, he has all the tools available to cover for himself. As in not a way to trace if he wrote it or not.

(I love a good mystery. I have no idea who it is…but I love the clues.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:56:40am

re: #297 makeitstop

Nixon’s heart is in the right place, I’ll give her that - she’s been in the fight for LGBT rights and supports Planned Parenthood and the DREAM act.

But as Lawhawk pointed out, New York is a very complex place, and with it come very complex issues. It ain’t amateur hour, and she’d likely get chewed up by the career politicians in this state. It’s an office that demands a fair amount of procedural experience.

I mean I have more respect for her than the random businessman who just decides he’s fed up with Washington/Albany or whatever capital. I just don’t see her being effective at governing the state of New York. I think she really thinks New York just needs a more ideologically progressive governor and things will be better and I’m sorry to say that it’s just not that simple.

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mmmirele  Sep 6, 2018 • 8:57:53am

re: #202 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

50 years late, but:

Special Breakthrough Prize In Fundamental Physics Awarded To Jocelyn Bell Burnell For Discovery Of Pulsars

I heard Dame Bell Burnell on the BBC this morning. She wouldn’t say that it made up for being snubbed for the Nobel, but I suspect it does. She’s also setting up a scholarship fund to increase diversity in physics with the $3 million prize. She talked about what someone such as a refugee could bring to the table with education. She also talked about how she was convinced a mistake had been made when she first went down to Cambridge for her PhD. She said she’d never been that far south in the UK in her life (born in northern Ireland, did her bachelor’s at Glasgow University).

As someone who has been an astronomy buff since I learned how to read (and remembers the excitement over the discovery of pulsars), I am pleased she’s getting this belated recognition.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:00:24am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

She’s got specific positions and differences that appeal to a lot of people, including me. Not sure I would vote for her if I lived there, but she’s on the ground, doing the work and is pushing a very calibrated, contrastive message like Pressley did in MA.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:00:48am

re: #288 William Lewis

Been busy this past week doing my new full time hotel job. Now today is my first regular Thursday/Friday days off. So I’m crunching numbers.

Anyone here driving a Kia? They seem to be the cheapest autos out there as well as somewhat “what’s a credit rating? mine is -8000” friendly. Looking online at either the Rio coupe or the Soul sort-of SUV (FWD not AWD) as both are coming in with payments under $250 a month, buy or lease.

Any other suggestions?

Kia’s get pretty decent ratings…but a little iffy in crashes.

I admit I am a homer when it comes to German cars, but I would suggest looking for a two/three year old VW Golf. A good solid car, and if you keep ‘em maintained you should be able to get 200,000 miles out of it. And they can take a hit for a small car.

Stay away from the Micro cars like the Fit, etc. Damn things are dangerous in my opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:01:31am

re: #302 JordanRules

She’s got specific positions and differences that appeal to a lot of people, including me. Not sure I would vote for her if I lived there, but she’s on the ground, doing the work and is pushing a very calibrated, contrastive message like Pressley did in MA.

Fair enough. Maybe I am being too hard on her. But I will add that Pressley had a record of accomplishment to run on. I just thinking going from actress/activist to governing New York is a giant jump.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:01:46am

re: #295 lawhawk

Nixon isn’t exactly doing well. Polling still shows her down by something like 30 points, though the data is pre-debate.

Well, then, it looks like a lot of people aren’t going with the “I’m more progressive, vote for me” line.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:03:00am

re: #288 William Lewis

Been busy this past week doing my new full time hotel job. Now today is my first regular Thursday/Friday days off. So I’m crunching numbers.

Anyone here driving a Kia? They seem to be the cheapest autos out there as well as somewhat “what’s a credit rating? mine is -8000” friendly. Looking online at either the Rio coupe or the Soul sort-of SUV (FWD not AWD) as both are coming in with payments under $250 a month, buy or lease.

Any other suggestions?

Eventually, I would like a Soul. Lots of people around here drive one.

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ipsos  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:04:36am

re: #290 Belafon

But, I’ll ask this: Why is Nixon doing so well against Cuomo? From what I read, she did well in the debate against him. And where were the other challengers?

Unlike his father, Andrew Cuomo is not a likeable guy. I vote for him because, for the most part, he’s on my side. But it’s never been a very enthusiastic vote. He’s opaque to the media, if not overtly hostile. He’s sometimes really bad when it comes to supporting fellow Democrats, especially when it comes to the mess that is the State Senate and the IDC. He doesn’t get along well at all with deBlasio in NYC. He was very slow out of the gate on same-sex marriage and even more so on marijuana.

Which is to say, I don’t think I’m at all alone in wanting a better Democrat in that office. Whether that’s Nixon or not is a different question.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:05:37am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. Maybe I am being too hard on her. But I will add that Pressley had a record of accomplishment to run on. I just thinking going from actress/activist to governing New York is a giant jump.

Agreed, it is a huge jump and she likely won’t win in part because of it. And that’s fair. Primaries are good for this stuff usually.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:06:12am

re: #303 ObserverArt

My personal all-time fave is this baby:

It may be ugly as hell, but damn, they’re reliable….and safe. I had one that reached over 750K on the odometer, and it never failed me once. Easy to maintain, too.

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darthstar  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:06:44am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:07:12am

re: #308 JordanRules

Agreed, it is a huge jump and she likely won’t win in part because of it. And that’s fair. Primaries are good for this stuff usually.

I do hope she pushes Cuomo to the left though. I have no problem with that. I understand why New Yorkers aren’t exactly fond of Cuomo for the reasons Ipsos said.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:07:23am

Trump also won the Republican primary because a whole lot of people ran. Had it been only a couple, he wouldn’t have lasted very long.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:08:04am

re: #307 ipsos

Unlike his father, Andrew Cuomo is not a likeable guy. I vote for him because, for the most part, he’s on my side. But it’s never been a very enthusiastic vote. He’s opaque to the media, if not overtly hostile. He’s sometimes really bad when it comes to supporting fellow Democrats, especially when it comes to the mess that is the State Senate and the IDC. He doesn’t get along well at all with deBlasio in NYC. He was very slow out of the gate on same-sex marriage and even more so on marijuana.

Which is to say, I don’t think I’m at all alone in wanting a better Democrat in that office. Whether that’s Nixon or not is a different question.

Understand completely.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:08:39am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

My personal all-time fave is this baby:

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It may be ugly as hell, but damn, they’re reliable….and safe. I had one that reached over 750K on the odometer, and it never failed me once. Easy to maintain, too.

‘They’re boxy, but they’re good.’ :)

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:09:12am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

My personal all-time fave is this baby:

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It may be ugly as hell, but damn, they’re reliable….and safe. I had one that reached over 750K on the odometer, and it never failed me once. Easy to maintain, too.

Sadly, I don’t think the newer Volvos enjoy the same reputation. I see a lot of the newer S40 and S60s riding on the back of lift back tow trucks.

But you are right. Those older Volvos were tanks.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:09:33am

re: #314 makeitstop

‘They’re boxy, but they’re good.’ :)

The ads in that movie still crack me up.

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sagehen  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:09:34am

re: #257 Belafon

Do you think that teacher of the year shouldn’t have run for the House seat she just won the primary for?

You mean to be one of 435? Being lowest seniority on a couple of committees with 20 people each?

That is starting at the bottom.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:10:07am

It also seems he’s a liar so who knows.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:10:18am

re: #294 dangerman

havent had a chance to do this mornings reading / homework - or even readh trhough this thread

im out on a job today. left home early and not much free time

so i’ll just drop this in from electoral-vote.com

either way “a group of unelected folks who effectively answer to nobody” are wielding power that is not theirs

the ‘unelected judges’ argument is always a silly one - they are duly appointed
this group of unelected people is real

The Venn diagram of the people who complain about “unelected judges” and the people who want to go back to appointing Senators is a single circle.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:10:39am

Whoever said Kamala Harris may already have Kavanaugh dead to rights on discussing the Mueller investigation with Trump’s lawyers may well be right.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:11:32am

re: #318 JordanRules

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It also seems he’s a liar so who knows.

He was picked explicitly because of his views on protecting the executive. And he’s a darling of the GOP establishment too. So win-win for him.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:12:08am

re: #315 ObserverArt

Sadly, I don’t think the newer Volvos enjoy the same reputation. I see a lot of the newer S40 and S60s riding on the back of lift back tow trucks.

But you are right. Those older Volvos were tanks.

The old Volvos were extremely well-made. The engines were a breeze to work on too, especially for a shade-tree mechanic like myself.

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darthstar  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:12:21am

re: #320 makeitstop

Whoever said Kamala Harris may already have Kavanaugh dead to rights on discussing the Mueller investigation with Trump’s lawyers may well be right.

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Harris came prepared for this. So did Coons. And so did Leahy. They’ve all made Kavanaugh squirm and drink water and say to himself that he’d get the vote after this grilling is over.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:12:29am

re: #320 makeitstop

Whoever said Kamala Harris may already have Kavanaugh dead to rights on discussing the Mueller investigation with Trump’s lawyers may well be right.

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I am really really liking her for President right now. This kind of intelligence, tenacity, and commitment to our ideals is just what I want out of our nominee.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:12:30am

re: #316 Belafon

The ads in that movie still crack me up.

One of my favorite movies. I still sing this from time to time.

Hello Song - Crazy People [1990]

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nines09  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:14:26am

re: #288 William Lewis

My two cents.
Toyota Corolla or a Honda Civic. 2018 leftovers coming up. Base models have a lot going for them. And they get close to 40 MPG highway even with a heavy foot You can realistically look at getting over 250K with proper oil changes, tires, blah blah.
They work. They hold up. And they retain resell value. We still have a 2010 Corolla and a 2012 Civic. And they have given us zero problems. Civic is my wife’s and has 213,000 and I think it’s good for 400K. She drives it 100 mile round trip daily.
Look at all of them on the road.
Contact dealers within the area around you by Email. Tell them color is no issue. And you will be buying a car. They get one shot. I need your lowest price. Refuse to go in to talk. If they dance, move on.
I bought cars online since 2002. Only way to go.
It might take you a week or so, but they will be receiving new inventory soon and will be looking to clear old inventory.
Remember every Toyota/Honda dealer is NOT the same. You do the legwork you can get a deal. Like I said, doing it since 2002. Every vehicle.
One final thing. I also traveled over 100 miles to get the deal a few times.

Good luck.

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:14:55am

re: #320 makeitstop

That’d be me (and most everyone else who was paying attention to Harris in legal twitter too).

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:15:05am

re: #318 JordanRules

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It also seems he’s a liar so who knows.

If anything, the Democrats got a good punch in. The Republicans are gonna need a cut doctor.

I hope they have some more punches going to really get the media dogs sniffing around. Open another cut so to say.

I think they are just watching now, today may get them motivated to really dig in. It may take them from “the Democrats don’t have a chance” to “maybe there is something here we need to look at.”

Many years ago, I didn’t know how to take Booker. Today I am all in on him.

And I am ready to elect Kamala president should she run. She is seriously sharp and not to be messed with.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:16:06am

re: #328 ObserverArt

If anything, the Democrats got a good punch in. The Republicans are gonna need a cut doctor.

I hope they have some more punches going to really get the media dogs sniffing around. Open another cut so to say.

I think they are just watching now, today may get them motivated to really dig in. It may take them from “the Democrats don’t have a chance” to “maybe there is something here we need to look at.”

Many years ago, I didn’t know how to take Booker. Today I am all in on him.

And I am ready to elect Kamala president should she run. She is seriously sharp and not to be messed with.

Booker’s strengths outweigh his flaws IMO. Been on board with both of them for awhile.

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TedStriker  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:17:44am

re: #303 ObserverArt

Kia’s get pretty decent ratings…but a little iffy in crashes.

I admit I am a homer when it comes to German cars, but I would suggest looking for a two/three year old VW Golf. A good solid car, and if you keep ‘em maintained you should be able to get 200,000 miles out of it. And they can take a hit for a small car.

Stay away from the Micro cars like the Fit, etc. Damn things are dangerous in my opinion.

Except for the Smart cars….built like tanks, as Anymouse can tell you.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:18:02am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:19:28am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:19:39am

re: #318 JordanRules

It also seems he’s a liar so who knows.

Ah, and who gets to define “inappropriate”?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:19:52am

re: #331 JordanRules

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Which is why they pulled the Garland stunt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:20:01am

re: #330 TedStriker

Except for the Smart cars….built like tanks, as Anymouse can tell you.

my ex- wife lost control in a snowstorm in a smart and hit a retaining wall going 30mph. totaled the car (safety cell frame bent) but was able to walk away.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:20:18am
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darthstar  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:20:51am

So my wife’s in Trumpland - Cincinatti -

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and I wake up to hear there’s an active shooter downtown. I text her and she says, “Yeah, I heard the shots - it’s just across from my hotel and there’s lots of sirens.” - Hotel went on lockdown.

Fucking shit was too close for comfort for me. Just glad she’s safe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:20:53am

re: #332 JordanRules

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You must have missed where he refused to shake the hand of a father of a shooting victim but please lecture some more.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:21:06am

re: #332 JordanRules

I’VE DONE MY SHARE OF PROTESTING WHICH IS ALL FINE AND AMERICAN BUT THESE OTHER PEOPLE PROTESTING IS JUST TANTRUM THROWING UNAMERICANISM

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:21:08am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:22:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:22:26am

re: #326 nines09

My two cents.
Toyota Corolla or a Honda Civic. 2018 leftovers coming up. Base models have a lot going for them. And they get close to 40 MPG highway even with a heavy foot You can realistically look at getting over 250K with proper oil changes, tires, blah blah.
They work. They hold up. And they retain resell value. We still have a 2010 Corolla and a 2012 Civic. And they have given us zero problems. Civic is my wife’s and has 213,000 and I think it’s good for 400K. She drives it 100 mile round trip daily.
Look at all of them on the road.
Contact dealers within the area around you by Email. Tell them color is no issue. And you will be buying a car. They get one shot. I need your lowest price. Refuse to go in to talk. If they dance, move on.
I bought cars online since 2002. Only way to go.
It might take you a week or so, but they will be receiving new inventory soon and will be looking to clear old inventory.
Remember every Toyota/Honda dealer is NOT the same. You do the legwork you can get a deal. Like I said, doing it since 2002. Every vehicle.
One final thing. I also traveled over 100 miles to get the deal a few times.

Good luck.

Yeah, Toyota or Honda are excellent cars too. Had a Camry, and I’d say it was as good as my old Volvo. Great commuter car.

Here, I’d go with a Škoda, probably a Fabia. They’re great little cars, and made here in Czech Republic. Sadly, unavailable in the US, at least so far.

The new Skoda Fabia | 2018 Facelift Interior

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:22:45am

re: #332 JordanRules

“These protesters are literally killing babies right in the hearing room!!!”

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:24:41am

Man alive! The way wealth transfers in this country. Whew. SMDH

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:25:58am

re: #344 JordanRules

Man alive! The way wealth transfers in this country. Whew. SMDH

If people would just work hard in this country maybe they could earn $100 million settlements for sex misconduct, too.

/

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:26:01am

re: #342 Dr Lizardo

Here, I’d go with a Škoda, probably a Fabia. They’re great little cars, and made here in Czech Republic. Sadly, unavailable in the US, at least so far.

We saw a lot of those in Belgium. A lot of taxi drivers had the bigger models.

Except for that one Algerian dude with the V-8 Mercedes, who confirmed everything I’ve ever heard about European taxi drivers. Dude was nuts, but got us back to our hotel in record time. :)

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:26:28am

re: #342 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, Toyota or Honda are excellent cars too. Had a Camry, and I’d say it was as good as my old Volvo. Great commuter car.

Here, I’d go with a Škoda, probably a Fabia. They’re great little cars, and made here in Czech Republic. Sadly, unavailable in the US, at least so far.

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That is basically a VW Polo. Sadly the little VWs are not sold here in the USA.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:27:13am

re: #344 JordanRules

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Man alive! The way wealth transfers in this country. Whew. SMDH

Well the socialists aren’t always wrong. JFC. Nice cushion to land on.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:27:36am

re: #345 Sir John Barron

If people would just work hard in this country maybe they could earn $100 million settlements for sex misconduct, too.

/

Well, if you can “withdraw” from court decisions now….

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nines09  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:27:52am

re: #342 Dr Lizardo

I was watching some U-17 World Hockey a while back from CR, and that name was plastered all over the place, players helmets too. Had a car behind the glass. Looked it up. First I heard of it.
If I had to buy a new car today it would be a 2018 Camry.

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mmmirele  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:28:26am

re: #341 JordanRules

What is bizarre about Trump commenting on the Catholic church scandals is that it breaks another norm, which is presidents just don’t comment on church issues. But every freaking norm has been broken with Trump. Every single one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:28:40am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:29:21am

re: #347 ObserverArt

That is basically a VW Polo. Sadly the little VWs are not sold here in the USA.

Pretty much. But being badged as a Škoda makes it much less expensive than a VW.

Here’s a full-on review of the Fabia, in English (by a German fellow):

Skoda Fabia FULL REVIEW Facelift 2019 Estate Combi vs Hatch new neu - Autogefühl

It’s a damn shame they’re not available in the US. They’re great commuter cars that won’t take a big bite out of your wallet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:29:38am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

Ah, and who gets to define “inappropriate”?

“Inappropriate” has been one of the moron-in-chief’s favorite words for a very long time, and his hangers-on love to use it as well.

I still remember Carrie Prejean telling Larry King over and over how inappropriate is was for him to ask about her lawsuit with the Miss Universe pageant.

“Well, I actually was watching,” Trump said. “I am a big fan of Larry King and I was watching this and I was very surprised to see it because she was talking about how inappropriate [Larry King] was.”

Prejean was on the show Wednesday night to promote her new book and seemed to take exception to King’s line of questioning regarding a lawsuit involving the former beauty queen and the Miss Universe pageant.

After telling host King that she wouldn’t discuss what happened in mediation because it was confidential, Prejean called his line of questioning “inappropriate,” removed her microphone and appeared to be ready to leave the set.

In speaking with HLN’s “Showbiz Tonight’s” Brooke Anderson, Trump said he just didn’t get it.

” ‘Inappropriate’ is more of a sexual term, as far as I’m concerned,” Trump said. “I mean — inappropriate? He asked a very, very easy question and I was surprised that she just didn’t say, ‘Hey, listen, I can’t answer that question.’ Instead she wants to walk off the stage? It was very surprising.”

cnn.com

fascinating bit in the bolded part.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:34:45am

re: #351 mmmirele

What is bizarre about Trump commenting on the Catholic church scandals is that it breaks another norm, which is presidents just don’t comment on church issues. But every freaking norm has been broken with Trump. Every single one.

I could see someone asking Obama about this and him having a competent answer. In no other slice of life would we think it’s normal for the President to sustain a tradition of silence in the face of enormous criminality, criminality of the worst kind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:36:14am

JFC

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sagehen  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:36:18am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. Maybe I am being too hard on her. But I will add that Pressley had a record of accomplishment to run on. I just thinking going from actress/activist to governing New York is a giant jump.

Especially if she believes, as she seems to, that the governor of New York State exists solely to serve the interests of New York City.

There’s 10 million people upstate who believe the governor’s primary job is to insulate them from the city and its needs; they sure don’t want to pay for it. “You’re so do damn rich, you got your Wall Street, pick up your own tab.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:36:46am

re: #351 mmmirele

What is bizarre about Trump commenting on the Catholic church scandals is that it breaks another norm, which is presidents just don’t comment on church issues. But every freaking norm has been broken with Trump. Every single one.

supporters wanted an anti-politician, one whose bile and venom would spit out all the hatred they felt for politics and politicians. they got that in spades

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:37:35am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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A loser just like her Dad.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:38:21am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Someone’s a little testy today…

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:40:46am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

I can’t see what’s in the picture, but at least we agree the writer’s a coward.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:41:01am

re: #353 Dr Lizardo

Pretty much. But being badged as a Škoda makes it much less expensive than a VW.

Here’s a full-on review of the Fabia, in English (by a German fellow):

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It’s a damn shame they’re not available in the US. They’re great commuter cars that won’t take a big bite out of your wallet.

Since they are not sold in America I was not aware Skoda’s are priced lower than VWs in Europe. Interesting.

I don’t think people are aware of how many cars are built on that platform.

If interested here is Wiki on the Volkswagen Group MQB platform

VW, Audi, Seat and Skoda all have different models using that base frame.

(Yeah, Imma VW nut. I know some of the Japanese cars are good cars…but I really like to drive and I like the handling and feel of them over some of the Japanese cars. Just my opinion.)

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:41:36am

re: #357 sagehen

Especially if she believes, as she seems to, that the governor of New York State exists solely to serve the interests of New York City.

There’s 10 million people upstate who believe the governor’s primary job is to insulate them from the city and its needs; they sure don’t want to pay for it. “You’re so do damn rich, you got your Wall Street, pick up your own tab.”

That’s a good point. The endorsement I read this morning made a big deal over how she’s ‘ready to take on the MTA,’ and riding the subway to a presser was one of her big early events (the subway was late).

Folks up in Schenectady don’t really give a rat’s butt about the MTA.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:43:06am

re: #360 makeitstop

Someone’s a little testy today…

She knows Trump is dirt and is getting his ass kicked. Sarah is trying to save her job.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:43:07am

re: #361 Belafon

I can’t see what’s in the picture, but at least we agree the writer’s a coward.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:45:46am

re: #309 Dr Lizardo

My personal all-time fave is this baby:

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It may be ugly as hell, but damn, they’re reliable….and safe. I had one that reached over 750K on the odometer, and it never failed me once. Easy to maintain, too.

Conversely, I had a 1992 940 (bought used in 2010 with only 40K miles) that was a money pit. I was so thankful when someone hit me and totaled it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:46:23am

jeebus

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:47:29am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re not working for the president. The good ones are working for America. The rest are working for themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:47:40am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Lyin Brett.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:48:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:49:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:50:53am

heh

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:53:26am

re: #368 Belafon

They’re not working for the president. The good ones are working for America. The rest are working for themselves.

Those working for America are branded Deep State Traitors.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:54:02am
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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:55:07am

re: #374 JordanRules

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[no phone numbers allowed]?

That almost sounds like a fake number.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:55:09am

re: #371 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen. Dick Durbin to Kavanaugh: “We are in a moment where the president has shown contempt for the federal judiciary, unlike any president we can recall … And that’s why your nomination is different than any.”

this following a moment when the GOP-controlled Congress displayed contempt for the Presidency and the SCOTUS by refusing to even hold hearings for a sitting President’s nominee.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:55:24am
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darthstar  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:55:56am

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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The media doesn’t get enough death threats to make Trump happy, so Sarah calls for more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:57:12am

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 9:58:08am

re: #375 makeitstop

[no phone numbers allowed]?

That almost sounds like a fake number.

I was thinking an easy to remember number in a batch of DIDs that the NYT owns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:01:01am

I don’t think the number even had a chance to change

0 Days Since I Stopped Hating Humanity

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:05:34am

I was thinking about something that op-ed writer said, about Trump being quixotic. I don’t buy it. In fact Trump is quite predictable. If he was erratic he wouldnt be predictable at all

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:07:35am

take a seat, Melanoma…

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lawhawk  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:07:46am

re: #363 makeitstop

That’s a good point. The endorsement I read this morning made a big deal over how she’s ‘ready to take on the MTA,’ and riding the subway to a presser was one of her big early events (the subway was late).

Folks up in Schenectady don’t really give a rat’s butt about the MTA.

But the fact is that upstate NY needs Wall Street tax revenues more than Wall Street/NYC needs upstate. Tracing revenues shows NYC gets back a fraction of the money it sends to the state. The MTA is just the biggest target since the governor directly controls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:10:18am

good. Let the Kremlin find another way to get it.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:10:19am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

take a seat, Melanoma…

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Oh wow, even Melon. All hands on deck while the cult insists it’s all fake bs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:10:29am

re: #375 makeitstop

[no phone numbers allowed]?

That almost sounds like a fake number.

It’s a real number alright.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:10:38am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

take a seat, Melanoma…

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People with no names. I guess someone never read about the Federalist Papers. And Melania, you are a coward too. You talk about combating online bullying while remaining married and supportive of the biggest online bully of them all. You say nothing about how immigrants are treated by this admistration even though you are one yourself.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:11:13am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, the “media” has a “wild obsession” with knowing who the anonymous author of the NYT op-ed is but Aunt Sarah tells the magabots to call the NYT to find out the ID of the author?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:12:56am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

take a seat, Melanoma…

Leaks are bad, mkay, but Russia if you’re listening, can you hack HRC’s emails, and hey we love Wikileaks.

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:13:33am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:14:10am

re: #391 Belafon

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This is a profile in courage moment right here guys. It’s really enduring me big time to Booker.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:14:45am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope the folks fielding these calls at the NYT tell the people who call them asking for the ID to choose from the list of names below:

1. Zombie Ronald Reagan
2. Tricky Dick Nixon’s Ghost
3. Your mother
4. Roger Stone
5. Sarah Huck

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:14:53am

re: #382 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I was thinking about something that op-ed writer said, about Trump being quixotic. I don’t buy it. In fact Trump is quite predictable. If he was erratic he wouldnt be predictable at all

Predictable? Where?
I have seen that man flip flop in the same quote. You can predict incompetence and chaos but it’s still chaos.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:16:01am

re: #366 Barefoot Grin

Conversely, I had a 1992 940 (bought used in 2010 with only 40K miles) that was a money pit. I was so thankful when someone hit me and totaled it.

Biggest money pit I ever owned?

1987 Jaguar XJ6. A very elegant hoopdee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:16:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:17:20am

re: #394 JordanRules

Predictable? Where?
I have seen that man flip flop in the same quote. You can predict incompetence and chaos but it’s still chaos.

it is predictable that he simply says whatever leaks out his pie hole at the moment he opens it because he is not used to dealing with negative personal consequences arising from anything he says or does

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:18:29am

re: #395 Dr Lizardo

Biggest money pit I ever owned?

1987 Jaguar XJ6. A very elegant hoopdee.

I used to see Jaguars from that period permanently parked in driveways. Oh, btw, when the Volvo wasn’t getting a new transmission, it was a great car—very good handling and comfort.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:18:31am

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump will weaken this by saying a 500 pound haker really did it. This is something that I suspect our Mystery Man has had to control Trump on.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:18:44am

re: #397 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is predictable that he simply says whatever leaks out his pie hole at the moment he opens it because he is not used to dealing with negative personal consequences arising from anything he says or does

Yup, that was my point. You can predict chaos, but it’s still chaos.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:19:30am

re: #398 Barefoot Grin

I used to see Jaguars from that period permanently parked in driveways. Oh, btw, when the Volvo wasn’t getting a new transmission, it was a great car—very good handling and comfort.

Presumably, leaking oil.

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:22:23am

Oh wow. Shameless.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:22:46am

re: #401 Dr Lizardo

Presumably, leaking oil.

You have to call them “Jag-you-ars” or they weep.

Edit: That should be “Jag-you-aahs”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:24:04am

*THUD*

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:24:10am

re: #402 JordanRules

Oh wow. Shameless.

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FFS.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:25:00am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

*THUD*

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You know, I knew going into this Kavanaugh was a right wing hack but damn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:25:38am

JFC, this is beyond a farce.

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electrotek  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:26:00am

re: #395 Dr Lizardo

Biggest money pit I ever owned?

1987 Jaguar XJ6. A very elegant hoopdee.

I’d do a LSx or 2JZ swap if I had an 80s Jag

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:27:19am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:27:19am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:27:21am
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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:27:26am

re: #404 Backwoods_Sleuth

*THUD*

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On a trivial note, KKKavenaugh has the same sort of puckered-anus mouth as Cheeto Benito (which is rather fitting, since bullshit is the only thing that exits forthwith)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:28:25am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rich words for a white prep boy who had everything handed to him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:30:46am

re: #409 Kragar

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Graham is who we thought he was. A gutless coward who always comes crawling back to Team GOP.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:35:08am

re: #382 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I was thinking about something that op-ed writer said, about Trump being quixotic. I don’t buy it. In fact Trump is quite predictable. If he was erratic he wouldnt be predictable at all

Have you been watching Trump?

Remember how he acted at the big meeting he had on gun control after the Parkland Florida shootings?

He flipped flopped in the damn meeting. Watch the reaction of some of the Republican Senators and Reps. Kevin McCarthy and Diane Feinstein were both able to sway him in two totally different direction within two minutes.

And I bet he is a lot worse when he is not in public and on TV.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:35:16am

re: #414 HappyWarrior

Graham is who we thought he was. A gutless coward who always comes crawling back to Team GOP.

But he can then claim that he “stood up” to Trump and “asked tough questions”.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:35:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:35:54am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:36:38am

re: #416 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But he can then claim that he “stood up” to Trump and “asked tough questions”.

Not anymore he can’t.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:36:45am

People really suck

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:37:01am

This is good stuff!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:38:03am

re: #421 JordanRules

This is good stuff!

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He really is a pathetic dick isn’t he?

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:38:59am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:40:12am

re: #374 JordanRules

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From the comments at Wonkette:

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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:40:19am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:40:26am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

What about Her Hillary Emails!?!??!!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:42:43am

re: #402 JordanRules

If you want a socialist experiment with Medicare

Wait I thought Medicare was Soshu—oh never mind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:43:53am

re: #427 Sir John Barron

Wait I thought Medicare was Soshu—oh never mind.

keep your socialist hands off my government medicare!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:44:00am

re: #427 Sir John Barron

Wait I thought Medicare was Soshu—oh never mind.

It’s fine now that our voters like and use it. The story of every government program that Republicans vow to “protect.”

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:44:01am

re: #204 Barefoot Grin

Nick Ayers:

I knew a lot of his type when I was in college in Georgia. Go to Sigma Chi, Kappa Alpha, etc. and those charming old boys could schmooze and disdain all at the same time in a way you don’t find elsewhere.

“Hustlin’ ‘round Atlanta in their alligator shoes
Gettin’ drunk every weekend at the barbecues”

Randy Newman

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:46:05am

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC, this is beyond a farce.

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Emails marked “Confidential” are now not a problem.

These Republicans always count on everyone being a Fox News Dumbass with no memory at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:47:52am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:47:58am

Here’s another boycott for the MAGAts. At this rate, they’ll be running around naked by 2020 (sorry for the hellish mental image).

Levi Strauss Forms Gun-Control Group with Bloomberg, Pushes Employees to Donate

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:49:09am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I forget, you’re not allowed to disagree with the NRA’s interpretation of the 2nd. God I hate that scumbag organization so much. I really would love love for them to see their guns destroyed in front of their eyes just so they would lose their shit even more.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:49:12am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:49:38am
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JordanRules  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:49:58am

re: #427 Sir John Barron

Wait I thought Medicare was Soshu—oh never mind.

This one is a double whammy of shamelessness and irony. Let’s not forget, he’s a criminal….Medicare fraud, biggest ever!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:51:17am

It’s good to see Democrats fighting Kavanaugh’s nomination, but I can’t help feeling it’s going to be futile. Republicans aren’t going to hesitate to install this clearly dishonest Republican tool.

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:52:17am

re: #423 JordanRules

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Grassley falling over like the lightweight he is.

That man has the backbone of a worm.

Sorry worms…you have more effect on earth than Chuck Grassley. I hope you understand the point.

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makeitstop  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:52:30am

re: #421 JordanRules

This is good stuff!

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My wife just sent me that link. I started reading it but lost interest very early on.

I don’t know exactly why, but Tucker just bored the crap out of me.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:53:31am

re: #438 Charles Johnson

They need to get as much on record as possible. He will be confirmed. All you can do is hold his record and the Republicans that support that record accountable in the future.

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jaunte  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:54:29am
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Lidane  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:55:23am

So it turns out that punching Nazis costs $1:

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ObserverArt  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:56:04am

re: #438 Charles Johnson

It’s good to see Democrats fighting Kavanaugh’s nomination, but I can’t help feeling it’s going to be futile. Republicans aren’t going to hesitate to install this clearly dishonest Republican tool.

Probably…but I hope it is a good example of Republican dishonesty to enough Americans to change some damn minds and it all helps the Democrats in elections.

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Interesting Times  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:57:27am
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William Lewis  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:58:03am

re: #303 ObserverArt

Kia’s get pretty decent ratings…but a little iffy in crashes.

I admit I am a homer when it comes to German cars, but I would suggest looking for a two/three year old VW Golf. A good solid car, and if you keep ‘em maintained you should be able to get 200,000 miles out of it. And they can take a hit for a small car.

Stay away from the Micro cars like the Fit, etc. Damn things are dangerous in my opinion.

Heh. My high school gf’s parents had a Rabbit. I visited her at her high school one day and she spouted up with “The rabbit died”. I swear there are still people in her class who think I got her pregnant :)

the suggestion is good though.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 10:59:45am

re: #442 jaunte

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Any of the other picks Trump would have made would have overturned Roe but not all of them would be guaranteed to protect Executive power with the same vigor that Kavanaugh will and I suspect a lot of this is his reward for being a good foot soldier in the Starr days.

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Kragar  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:00:49am
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jaunte  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:01:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:03:44am

re: #441 Dave In Austin

Oh COME ON. Couldn’t Republicans find another judge who was willing to overturn Roe and had an expansive view of executive power, but was not also a shitty liar who knowingly uses stolen emails from political opponents but pretends he’s too stupid to understand something obvious?

they could have but felt that they had no need to and were probably right in that assessment

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BeachDem  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:04:14am

re: #412 Interesting Times

On a trivial note, KKKavenaugh has the same sort of puckered-anus mouth as Cheeto Benito (which is rather fitting, since bullshit is the only thing that exits forthwith)

I think he and Cruz could be long lost brothers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:05:59am

re: #451 BeachDem

I think he and Cruz could be long lost brothers.

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If McGuire and Canseco were the Bash Brothers, are they the Sleeze Siblings?

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Belafon  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:10:18am

re: #435 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I just laughed out loud.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 6, 2018 • 11:48:25am

re: #441 Dave In Austin

They need to get as much on record as possible. He will be confirmed. All you can do is hold his record and the Republicans that support that record accountable in the future.

Bingo. I am fine with whatever damages the GOP before the midterms.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 6, 2018 • 2:53:15pm

When bullies start feeling the walls closing in, when their victims finally band together and start doing to them as they have done to others …

This holds true for Herr Drumpf as well.


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