Full Video: John Oliver on Yet Another Critical Issue: Felony Disenfranchisement

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Many people with felony convictions are unfairly prohibited from voting, and the worst state for this — surprise — is Florida.

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133 comments
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

So, since GDP has been growing and unemployment falling since 2009, and at much the same or better rates, an “economic turnaround” would be for GDP to start FALLING and unemployment to start RISING, which is pretty much NOT what you want.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:26:48pm

re: #1 Blind Frog Belly White

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So, since GDP has been growing and unemployment falling since 2009, and at much the same or better rates, an “economic turnaround” would be for GDP to start FALLING and unemployment to start RISING, which is pretty much NOT what you want.

You mean give credit to that black guy who Trump hates? Nah can’t do that.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:27:00pm

The night Donald Trump was elected, I had a barn-burner of a nightmare; actually woke myself up by shouting something incoherent, which I never do. I don’t remember many details of the dream, but the foreboding sense of impending disaster it left me with has only gotten worse since then.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:27:44pm

I actually wrote a whole post about that nightmare and then decided not to publish it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:28:52pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

The night Donald Trump was elected, I had a barn-burner of a nightmare; actually woke myself up by shouting something incoherent, which I never do. I don’t remember many details of the dream, but the foreboding sense of impending disaster it left me with has only gotten worse since then.

One of Mrs. FBW’s less endearing habits is to say, when I tell her of the latest Trumpian outrage, “Why are you surprised?”

I mean, she’s totally right, but still.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:29:13pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

The night Donald Trump was elected, I had a barn-burner of a nightmare; actually woke myself up by shouting something incoherent, which I never do. I don’t remember many details of the dream, but the foreboding sense of impending disaster it left me with has only gotten worse since then.

It’s like we knew it would be bad but to have actually lived it these past 20 months. There’s a special place for the people who voted for him and especially for the people who pushed him on us.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:29:48pm

re: #5 Blind Frog Belly White

One of Mrs. FBW’s less endearing habits is to say, when I tell her of the latest Trumpian outrage, “Why are you surprised?”

I mean, she’s totally right, but still.

There were moments in 2017 where I was surprised but now it’s like “Well yeah of course that happened because he’s a fucking child incapable of.”

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:29:53pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

The night Donald Trump was elected, I had a barn-burner of a nightmare; actually woke myself up by shouting something incoherent, which I never do. I don’t remember many details of the dream, but the foreboding sense of impending disaster it left me with has only gotten worse since then.

I just started drinking scotch at 8:00 local and got monstered. No nightmares for me. Just a nasty hangover, in several senses.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:34:37pm

re: #8 austin_blue

I just started drinking scotch at 8:00 local and got monstered. No nightmares for me. Just a nasty hangover, in several senses.

I drank a lot that night too. Was a couple weeks into my current job. I was just stunned. It was honestly totally different than 2004 when Kerry lost even though I protested at Bush’s inauguration and not Trump’s.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:36:02pm

re: #8 austin_blue

I just started drinking scotch at 8:00 local and got monstered. No nightmares for me. Just a nasty hangover, in several senses.

I was at work, where the internet is faster, plus it was only 5 PM when returns started in. When the Florida precinct numbers started popping up worse than expected, I got a really bad feeling.

I still have it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:36:12pm

Had to tweet it.

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unproven innocence  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:36:17pm

Not just people with a felony conviction who are being denied their right to vote in many states. Millions of people who are charged with misdemeanors or less are not wealthy enough to afford bail, so they are locked up, denied the means to manage their own financial obligations (not to mention voting) AND (in many cases) are also billed for their own incarceration.

It’s horrible that some localities treat poorer folk as a revenue stream.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:37:06pm

re: #12 unproven innocence

Not just people with a felony convictions who are being denied their right to vote in many states. Millions of people who are charged with misdemeanors or less are not wealthy enough to afford bail, so they are locked up, denied the means to manage their own financial obligations (not to mention voting) AND (in many cases) are also billed for their own incarceration.

It’s horrible that some localities treat poorer folk as a revenue stream.

That’s how Republicans and conservatives see poorer people. It’s why they champion obscenely high sales taxes.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:37:14pm

re: #8 austin_blue

I went to bed election night thinking HRC, and woke up to the nightmare. A nightmare of family and friends I just don’t want to talk to anymore. Not because they voted Trump, but because they were all for child separation and the lies. Okay with a bully.

I wish I only drank too much once over this guys policies. Now it’s all about coping and resisting.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:38:06pm

In a way, I wish I hadn’t deleted that post but when I read it back it just sounded too negative and too angry, and I decided that wasn’t the best way to publicly respond.

Shit is all fucked up.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:39:01pm

re: #14 Unshaken Defiance

I went to bed election night thinking HRC, and woke up to the nightmare. A nightmare of family and friends I just don’t want to talk to anymore. Not because they voted Trump, but because they were all for child separation and the lies. Okay with a bully.

I wish I only drank too much once over this guys policies. Now it’s all about coping and resisting.

I have a few somewhat distant cousins who supported his candidacy and man while I like them and love them, it’s tough for me to separate. It felt easier to do that in the Bush years. I know Bush did a lot of evil shit too but there’s something about this administration that is uniquely rotten to its core.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:39:05pm

re: #14 Unshaken Defiance

I too went to bed praying for HRC to win. I woke to a nightmare and have been living with it since that awful day. :(

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:40:20pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson
re: #15 Charles Johnson

Maybe, just maybe a week before the mid terms in November would be exquisite timing to post that. You know best as the writer but I suspect there are suspicions you had then that are hard reality now. Speak them.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:41:38pm

I watched the whole thing. Hoping that things would somehow change and they never did. TBH I’m fairly optimistic about 2018 and even 2020 but where I’m more cynical is cleaning the mess up. I’m sure the Demcratic replacement will do a good job but I worry about the same amnesia setting in that caused first the Tea Party wave of 2010 and then the rise of Trump six years later. What we have to do is everything possible to make the GOP a permanent minority party. And that includes reminding people left and right about their failings while having our own successes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:42:24pm

re: #17 PhillyPretzel

I too went to bed praying for HRC to win. I woke to a nightmare and have been living with it since that awful day. :(

I was at the county Democratic Party watch party at a restaurant in the county seat.

When the electoral college became clear that Clinton lost the election, we were all stunned. My wife and I came home that sixteen miles and said not a word. Then it was rum o’clock.

I have a village board meeting in a few minutes … catch y’all later … stay safe over there on the East Coast.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:43:05pm

re: #18 Unshaken Defiance

Unfortunately that post is gone in the mists of time - I didn’t save a draft. But a look back is a good idea.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:46:16pm

As much as it pains me to say it since I do like and admire her but HRC was someone that the right couldn’t wait to vote against. And you know what? That’s a shame. Because time and time again, when HRC actually serves her country whether it’s as First Lady, Senator, or Secretary of State, Americans like the job she does. It’s just when she’s a candidate that they go “Oh god her!”. I think Trump is in trouble in 2020 and here’s a very simple reason why. He now has to play defense. Offense was fairly easy for him but I think defense will be his undoing. And he won’t have the advantage of running against someone that the right wing cult has spent the past quarter century loathing. They’ll come to hate the Dem nominee just like they did with Obama but it won’t be enough IMO.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:50:17pm

The topic of felony disenfranchisement really deserves the attention. I’ll say this as an advocate for sensible self defense rights. If you had “malice and aforethought” and drew blood or shot at someone too bad. If you raped a person be glad you ever get to see the sun and shut up.

Then we have the vast majority of felons that screwed up in ways that did not intend to injure or kill. Sold cocaine, or pot, or x. Did your time? Living the legal and kindly life? Let me register you to participate again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:53:24pm

re: #23 Unshaken Defiance

The topic of felony disenfranchisement really deserves the attention. I’ll say this as an advocate for sensible self defense rights. If you had “malice and aforethought” and drew blood or shot at someone too bad. If you raped a person be glad you ever get to see the sun and shut up.

Then we have the vast majority of felons that screwed up in ways that did not intend to injure or kill. Sold cocaine, or pot, or x. Did your time? Living the legal and kindly life? Let me register you to participate again.

Too many people in this country flat out don’t get that most people in jail and prison are getting out. They just want to punish, punish. Making it hard for them to re-adjust to society will not only be harmful to these individuals but I think also cause them to be more likely to re-offend. Rehabilitation isn’t just for the convict, it’s for society’s benefit too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 10, 2018 • 5:57:56pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Too many people in this country flat out don’t get that most people in jail and prison are getting out. They just want to punish, punish. Making it hard for them to re-adjust to society will not only be harmful to these individuals but I think also cause them to be more likely to re-offend. Rehabilitation isn’t just for the convict, it’s for society’s benefit too.

Esp when it’s minorities and the poor. The highest white privilege is not going to jail when the n*&!%*r did for the same act.

I detest that dwb thing.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:00:01pm

I owe all Lizards an apology. I am sorry for using blatantly racist language a few nights ago. It was a flippant yet vicious comment and even *in context* it doesn’t make it right. I have alienated more of you and if you never take me seriously again, or Ullr forbid I’ve driven you away from LGF, I understand. We’re supposed to be better than that and I ended up sullying Charles’ good name and this fine website. And if it’s true that I have driven away some of our black audience, well, I have a lot to atone to. I humbly ask for your forgiveness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:00:11pm

re: #25 Unshaken Defiance

Esp when it’s minorities and the poor. The highest white privilege is not going to jail when the n*&!%r did for the same act.

Exactly. Look at Affluenza kid. We like to think justice is blind but it’s not. It’s never been blind. You read about the things that got black men murdered in the South and it just astounds you and then you see that white men got off when they killed black men and women and children in cold blood.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:02:05pm
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Belafon  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:02:59pm
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A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:06:16pm

We’re a mean country, especially when you look at how we handle matters of sickness and poverty. We’re also short sighted, look at what we have done to the sparkly new infrastructure we had at one time, basically nothing. We’re letting it fall apart while we argue about how to pay for it or not, mostly not. We’re letting our public schools and lands be picked apart and sold off to the friends of those we elected ( while they tell us it will save money, especially if we lose those pesky standards and regulations). We live behind gates and walls and shoot each other with alarming regularity.

I know I am blessed to have been born here and I have had privilege here that I may not have had in some other places. But I also love my country enough to be critical and genuinely sad about what is happening now. That’s what being patriotic is, you cheer what’s right and true and fight against things that are evil, mean and stupid. I don’t know how we break through this mess , I mean families and whole neighborhoods have been torn apart over this shit, how do we mend that?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:08:47pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:08:57pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:10:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:11:45pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

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Thank you Senator. There’s a lot wrong with Kavanaugh and you’re the first to highlight this part that I’ve seen. Not dismissing the others but I’m glad she brought this up.

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stpaulbear  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:11:46pm

re: #14 Unshaken Defiance

I went to bed election night thinking HRC, and woke up to the nightmare. A nightmare of family and friends I just don’t want to talk to anymore. Not because they voted Trump, but because they were all for child separation and the lies. Okay with a bully.

I wish I only drank too much once over this guys policies. Now it’s all about coping and resisting.

I quit drinking for good the night after Reagan was re-elected (I voted for Mondale). It wasn’t directly because of that. I had been laid off from a warehouse job a couple weeks earlier and was spending every night closing out First Avenue. I’d already wound up in the hospital months before from barfing up blood, so that night on the way home from an after-closing party, I realized I was going to be dead if I didn’t stop.

The band playing at First Avenue that night was The Cure. They played all night without an opening band.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:12:03pm

re: #32 Single-handed sailor

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Yeah? Because it wasn’t your fucking door.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:12:22pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

I owe all Lizards an apology. I am sorry for using blatantly racist language a few nights ago. It was a flippant yet vicious comment and even *in context* it doesn’t make it right. I have alienated more of you and if you never take me seriously again, or Ullr forbid I’ve driven you away from LGF, I understand. We’re supposed to be better than that and I ended up sullying Charles’ good name and this fine website. And if it’s true that I have driven away some of our black audience, well, I have a lot to atone to. I humbly ask for your forgiveness.

Didn’t see what you posted, but been there, done that. The Lizard Nation (and Charles) is generally speaking a pretty forgiving group. Given that you are still able to post and have posted an apology, speaks well of you. Believe me. I’ve stepped over the line more than once, and got slapped down, HARD! each time. Welcome to the Bone Headed Idiots Club.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:12:38pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Are they talking about that Serena comic? Because holy mother of god that belonged in something out of Jim Crow.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:14:24pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:15:47pm

This is my kind of craigslist ad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:17:02pm

The media even left leaning media I think is too worried about about white America’s response to certain issues. We’re a diverse country but the media and politico body only seems worried about what people like me think.

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CleverToad  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:17:26pm

re: #23 Unshaken Defiance

The topic of felony disenfranchisement really deserves the attention. I’ll say this as an advocate for sensible self defense rights. If you had “malice and aforethought” and drew blood or shot at someone too bad. If you raped a person be glad you ever get to see the sun and shut up.

Then we have the vast majority of felons that screwed up in ways that did not intend to injure or kill. Sold cocaine, or pot, or x. Did your time? Living the legal and kindly life? Let me register you to participate again.

And oh yeah, there’s HR 6691, expanding the classification of “violent crimes” — certain to be used to justify more deportations and police escalations in the short term, with the payoff of more prison labor and fewer PoC voters in the future (they don’t care if it’s by death or disenfranchisement). Evil. Naked and unabashed evil.

medium.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:18:01pm

Oh? You weren’t offended by those racist remarks. Well, that’s nice man. Maybe because you weren’t the target of it. Maybe you don’t have a relative that had to flee the South like he was fleeing to a new nation because he or she offended the wrong person.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:21:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:21:56pm

Ski, I hope you know that’s not meant at you. It’s meant at the white media establishment who just shrugs off racism as people being offended too easily. As a white man, I’ve never been made to feel like I don’t belong in my own country because of how I look. Yeah I’m a little bit of an outsider in my own way because of my ASD but never because of my race and especially not because of being a white heterosexual male. PoC face that all the time. You read about politicians of indigenous heritage being told they need to go home. American citizens having ICE called on them because they speak Spanish. I love our country but we have a lot of growing up to do and I really hope that Trump’s election was the last throng of the people who would have voted to preserve legal segregation.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:25:04pm

We have a winner.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:25:45pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

We have a winner.

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Oh man, that is fuckin’ brilliant.

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gwangung  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:30:12pm

re: #32 Single-handed sailor

Why was the apartment dark? Could be the guy was sleeping…and maybe that’s why he didn’t “obey”….and the officer was too trigger happy to notice….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:30:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:30:36pm

Well, this should help. Worst part is that Pat will claim credit if his properties are not completely obliterated———and his marks will believe him.

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CleverToad  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:30:36pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Oh? You weren’t offended by those racist remarks. Well, that’s nice man. Maybe because you weren’t the target of it. Maybe you don’t have a relative that had to flee the South like he was fleeing to a new nation because he or she offended the wrong person.

Can we get context, Happy?
As the threads swirl on, it’s sometimes hard to tell who you’re speaking to when there isn’t a prior comment cited or the name of the addressee included.

‘umble thanks!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:31:43pm

re: #51 CleverToad

Can we get context, Happy?
As the threads swirl on, it’s sometimes hard to tell who you’re speaking to when there isn’t a prior comment cited or the name of the addressee included.

‘umble thanks!

I’m talking about Charles talking about how the media has a tendency to focus on “racially charged” comments and then just shrugs off PoC being upset about them as PC run amok.

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Kragar  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:31:53pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Well, this should help. Worst part is that Pat will claim credit if his properties are not completely obliterated———and his marks will believe him.

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So why didn’t he protect Texas or Puerto Rico last year? Fucking dick.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:33:01pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Well, this should help. Worst part is that Pat will claim credit if his properties are not completely obliterated———and his marks will believe him.

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That guy is such a shit stain.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:35:43pm

re: #53 Kragar

So why didn’t he protect Texas or Puerto Rico last year? Fucking dick.

You can always count on the Evangelicals to be the biggest assholes in times of natural disaster. I know this sounds crass but I hope the hurricane destroys his property and bankrupts him. Can anyone name a time when Robertson hasn’t been a shitty person? Like he’s been in public life my entire lifetime and he’s always been an absolute shit whether it’s remarks like this or literally saying we deserved 9/11 because we didn’t treat gays and women who get abortions totally like crap.

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sagehen  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:38:50pm
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meteor  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:47:20pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:47:40pm

Went to the store to grab some ice cream and I ran right into the sort of scene I expected the moment they said “There’s a hurricane coming.” People grabbing jugs of water and milk, loaves of bread, and toilet paper like it’s going out of fucking style. Much like living in California, it’s how you can tell the transplants from the locals. The transplants see “Hurricane coming” and freak the fuck out. Locals see a hurricane coming…and they stock up on beer.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:50:53pm

Satire from Borowitz:

DeVos Defends Trump: “Would a Moron Hire Me?”

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos offered a spirited defense of her boss’s intelligence on Friday, bluntly asking reporters, “Would a moron hire me?”

“My intelligence can be very intimidating,” DeVos said. “And if Donald Trump was a moron, he would not want to be around people who are intelligenter than him.”

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can't think of a decent username  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:52:21pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Well, this should help. Worst part is that Pat will claim credit if his properties are not completely obliterated———and his marks will believe him.

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A shield of protection? That’s probably a fourth-level spell in D&D…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 6:54:18pm

re: #60 can’t think of a decent username

A shield of protection? That’s probably a fourth-level spell in D&D…

If he rolls a 4 though, he turns into a gay newt though so there’s a catch.

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Jay C  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:00:11pm

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Satire from Borowitz:

DeVos Defends Trump: “Would a Moron Hire Me?”

TBH, I’m not sure this is actually “satire” - for me, the answer to Betsy’s question is a resounding “Yes” - who else would?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:02:04pm

re: #62 Jay C

TBH, I’m not sure this is actually “satire” - for me, the answer to Betsy’s question is a resounding “Yes” - who else would?

Someone deeply in debt to my family would.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:02:17pm

Racially charged demonstration by alt-right activists, 1926:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:03:05pm

re: #64 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Racially charged demonstration by alt-right activists, 1926:

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The black residents of the District should have respected their view points. //

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:05:45pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

The night Donald Trump was elected, I had a barn-burner of a nightmare; actually woke myself up by shouting something incoherent, which I never do. I don’t remember many details of the dream, but the foreboding sense of impending disaster it left me with has only gotten worse since then.

And assuming he serves his full term, we still have MORE than two years to go until a democratically elected person can take his place.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:06:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:07:20pm

re: #67 jaunte

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Oh but global warming isn’t real, I once needed to wear a hoodie in July. //

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:11:20pm

re: #67 jaunte

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“They told us there’d be more storms, just like they told us there’d be a new ice age! Why should I believe them now?!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:12:48pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:12:49pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Hey. At least you were able to fall asleep.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:13:43pm

WTF?

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gwangung  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:15:32pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WTF?

“Yeah, we’re not even letting Democrats tell us how to govern ourselves, so why should we let you?”

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:15:54pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WTF?

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Supposedly the ICC was planning to investigate allegations of US war crimes in Afghanistan.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:16:07pm

So tomorrow marks 17 years since 9/11…which also happened on a Tuesday. That day sure changed a lot of things.

If you think about it, the RW posturing and wild conspiracy theories that cropped up around that event led us down the road that got us Trump.

I often wonder what that day would have been like if Twitter had been around…probably good that it wasn’t.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:16:14pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WTF?

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Then you have no business telling our nations how to run themselves and that’s never stopped you Bolton especially.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:16:33pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

Supposedly the ICC was planning to investigate allegations of US war crimes in Afghanistan.

That would sigh make too much sense.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:16:46pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Surprising he didn’t manage to work “virtue signaling” into that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:17:51pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So tomorrow marks 17 years since 9/11…which also happened on a Tuesday. That day sure changed a lot of things.

If you think about it, the RW posturing and wild conspiracy theories that cropped up around that even led us down the road that got us Trump.

I often wonder what that day would have been like if Twitter had been around…probably good that it wasn’t.

I am grateful daily that Trump wasn’t President during 9/11.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:19:25pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So tomorrow marks 17 years since 9/11…which also happened on a Tuesday. That day sure changed a lot of things.

If you think about it, the RW posturing and wild conspiracy theories that cropped up around that even led us down the road that got us Trump.

I often wonder what that day would have been like if Twitter had been around…probably good that it wasn’t.

17 years…. Helloooo melancholy. We have gone backwards.

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dangerman  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:20:24pm

re: #53 Kragar

So why didn’t he protect Texas or Puerto Rico last year? Fucking dick.

” The other side” prayed harder

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:22:12pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So tomorrow marks 17 years since 9/11…which also happened on a Tuesday. That day sure changed a lot of things.

If you think about it, the RW posturing and wild conspiracy theories that cropped up around that even led us down the road that got us Trump.

I often wonder what that day would have been like if Twitter had been around…probably good that it wasn’t.

The RW posturing and wild conspiracy theories were in full force during the Clinton presidency. The WSJ editorial page promoted them on a regular basis. So we were already on the path to a Trump.

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jaunte  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:22:54pm

re: #80 Unshaken Defiance

17 years…. Helloooo melancholy. We have gone backwards.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:22:58pm

I made a tweet storm using the LGF Tweet button. #WorldSuicidePreventionDay

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:24:34pm

The ultimate push to Trump was Obama’s success at the polls. So much of the conservative delusion that they were America’s real majority went down the toilet as Obama became the first Dem since FDR to get 50% of the vote twice. Oh and he was successful too. And black. And smart.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:26:22pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

I made a tweet storm using the LGF Tweet button. #WorldSuicidePreventionDay

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Takes a lot of guts to share that with the world man. I know that pain too. I had an attempt about 12 years ago. It was a low point.

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dangerman  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:26:58pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

I made a tweet storm using the LGF Tweet button. #WorldSuicidePreventionDay

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The kid’s alright

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Belafon  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:28:22pm
Click to Reveal

Facebook Post


Hiding because it looks like it autoplays.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:31:34pm
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Belafon  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:32:25pm

According to facebook, on this date in 2009, I posted a comment about my then 4 year old. I had bought him a mini-etch-a-sketch. He’d was shaking it vigorously after he’d drawn something on it, and when I asked him what was wrong, he said, “I’m trying to get it to reboot.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:33:21pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Trump the real fake news pusher.

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dangerman  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:33:44pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Shorter:. Trump lied

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:34:25pm

re: #90 Belafon

According to facebook, on this date in 2009, I posted a comment about my then 4 year old. I had bought him a mini-etch-a-sketch. He’d was shaking it vigorously after he’d drawn something on it, and when I asked him what was wrong, he said, “I’m trying to get it to reboot.”

I joined LGF about nine years ago. Wow. I was only on DU for three.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:35:11pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:37:24pm

re: #75 Eclectic Cyborg

So tomorrow marks 17 years since 9/11…which also happened on a Tuesday. That day sure changed a lot of things.

If you think about it, the RW posturing and wild conspiracy theories that cropped up around that event led us down the road that got us Trump.

I often wonder what that day would have been like if Twitter had been around…probably good that it wasn’t.

I remember when Alex Jones was a “CRAZY LEFTWING PSYCHO”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:41:36pm

re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus

I remember when Alex Jones was a “CRAZY LEFTWING PSYCHO”.

Yep but the thing is he was always right wing. He just thought the Bush administration not bigoted enough. Ditto Lou Dobbs.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:46:14pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Yep but the thing is he was always right wing. He just thought the Bush administration not bigoted enough. Ditto Lou Dobbs.

Yeah, Bush is practically a fucking communist to todays RWNJs.

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dangerman  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:47:18pm

She was in uniform
The door was ajar (she says,)
The apt was dark when she fired

Guyger said in her statement to the Rangers the apartment was completely dark when she fired. It was only after she fired and turned on the lights that she said she realized she entered the wrong apartment, which is on a floor below hers

If that’s the case, how was she able to assess a threat?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:48:06pm

re: #98 dangerman

She was in uniform
The door was ajar (she says,)
The apt was dark when she fired

If that’s the case, how was she able to assess a threat?

She needs to go to jail a looong time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:51:24pm

re: #30 A Mom Anon

We’re a mean country, especially when you look at how we handle matters of sickness and poverty. We’re also short sighted, look at what we have done to the sparkly new infrastructure we had at one time, basically nothing. We’re letting it fall apart while we argue about how to pay for it or not, mostly not. We’re letting our public schools and lands be picked apart and sold off to the friends of those we elected ( while they tell us it will save money, especially if we lose those pesky standards and regulations). We live behind gates and walls and shoot each other with alarming regularity.

I know I am blessed to have been born here and I have had privilege here that I may not have had in some other places. But I also love my country enough to be critical and genuinely sad about what is happening now. That’s what being patriotic is, you cheer what’s right and true and fight against things that are evil, mean and stupid. I don’t know how we break through this mess , I mean families and whole neighborhoods have been torn apart over this shit, how do we mend that?

America is a very mean country. And it justifies the meaness in the name of Christianity

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dangerman  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:51:57pm

For your dining and dancing pleasure:

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:53:49pm

re: #101 dangerman

For your dining and dancing pleasure:

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GOP: “SEE THE SLUMP THAT TRUMP PULLED AMERICA OUT OF!”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:54:26pm

re: #101 dangerman

For your dining and dancing pleasure:

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It’s almost like Obama did a good job.

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dangerman  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:55:14pm
NORTH Korea has no plans to scrap its nuclear arsenal in a huge blow to Donald Trump as tensions soar on the Korean peninsula

Link

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:55:39pm

I’m back you poor devils.

Short village board meeting tonight, despite the fact we had to approve next fiscal year’s budget. Much of the town was there (the budget is always the popular meeting).

Someone asked what we could do with all our money (the town has about half a million dollars in reserve after expenditures for the next year); I quipped we could all just split it up and move (that will go a long way between 124 people).

For some reason the village attorney doesn’t think that’s a good idea… .

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:56:59pm

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Kragar  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:58:09pm

Funniest movie I’ve seen in a while:

What We Do in the Shadows - International Trailer

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HappyWarrior  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:58:17pm

re: #104 dangerman

Link

Yeah but Donald made a new friend who is also very very rich and has Daddy issues too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 10, 2018 • 7:59:53pm

re: #104 dangerman

Wow, talk about a reckless and blown way out of proportion headline.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:07:01pm
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freetoken  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:07:39pm

For those not aware, the US was hit by a major typhoon yesterday:

Pacific island chain asks Trump to declare emergency as typhoon strikes

Mangkhut is on its way to threaten the Philippines, then Taiwan, but it will probably end up hitting land around Hong Kong. Current IR of Mangkhut:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:10:54pm

Oh, yeah?

On August 11, 1984, United States President Ronald Reagan, while running for re-election, was preparing to make his weekly Saturday radio address on National Public Radio. During a sound check before the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians:

My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.

We begin bombing in five minutes (Wikipedia, more at the link)

The Soviet Union placed its army on alert over that.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:11:03pm

re: #84 teleskiguy
I am glad you’re still here.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:11:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:21:46pm
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BeachDem  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:22:25pm

The good news:

Amazon Removes 9 Books By Notorious Rape Apologist ‘Roosh’…Amazon and YouTube both took steps to drop Daryush “Roosh” Valizadeh’s content after HuffPost reached out.

And the bad news (sigh)

Valizadeh still freely promotes the books, along with his racist, sexist, homophobic and anti-Semitic views, to his more than 40,000 followers on Twitter, which verified his account after he publicly advocated for decriminalizing rape in 2015.

huffingtonpost.com

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electrotek  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:24:39pm

Has anyone read this about the Polish immigrant who was murdered on the day of 9/11?

Unsolved to this day.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:25:20pm

GOES-16. Wow.

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:27:40pm

Our Assistant GM volunteered to sub for the AGM at a sister hotel in Richmond this week and next. She thought she was getting away from the storm by not being here. But Weather Channel just showed the European model for rainfall forecast.

This area? 3-5” due to Florence.

Richmond? 8-12”.

I have the suspicion right now she might be in for a rougher ride than we are here.

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electrotek  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:28:36pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

I owe all Lizards an apology. I am sorry for using blatantly racist language a few nights ago. It was a flippant yet vicious comment and even *in context* it doesn’t make it right. I have alienated more of you and if you never take me seriously again, or Ullr forbid I’ve driven you away from LGF, I understand. We’re supposed to be better than that and I ended up sullying Charles’ good name and this fine website. And if it’s true that I have driven away some of our black audience, well, I have a lot to atone to. I humbly ask for your forgiveness.

Don’t sweat it homie. We all know you’re good people here. None of us are perfect and unfortunately many of us can run astray.

But the important thing is this: not only you owned up to it, but also acknowledged that it was wrong and made no excuses for it whatsoever.

Can’t say the same for the right-wing if they were in the same situation.

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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:32:42pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:34:56pm

LOL

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Targetpractice  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:36:46pm

re: #122 Single-handed sailor

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LOL

How exactly are they going to get “tough”? Once you’ve backed away from threats of imminent military action, you’re really out of cards to play.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:38:00pm

re: #123 Targetpractice

How exactly are they going to get “tough”? Once you’ve backed away from threats of imminent military action, you’re really out of cards to play.

Trump sends a strongly worded love letter.

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electrotek  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:39:54pm

Spot on

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:43:59pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 10, 2018 • 8:50:20pm

Nirvana - Aneurysm

Come on over
Do the twist (aha)
Overdo it
Have a fit (aha)
Come on over
Shoot the shit (aha)
Love you so much
Makes me sick (aha)
Beat me out of me (beat it, beat it)
She keeps it pumpin’ strait in my heart.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2018 • 9:06:59pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

I owe all Lizards an apology. I am sorry for using blatantly racist language a few nights ago. It was a flippant yet vicious comment and even *in context* it doesn’t make it right. I have alienated more of you and if you never take me seriously again, or Ullr forbid I’ve driven you away from LGF, I understand. We’re supposed to be better than that and I ended up sullying Charles’ good name and this fine website. And if it’s true that I have driven away some of our black audience, well, I have a lot to atone to. I humbly ask for your forgiveness.

Given.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 10, 2018 • 9:21:52pm

Public Law 107-89, which named Sept. 11 Patriot Day (signed by GW Bush after passing Congress) also requests the President issue a proclamation for that day every year. The flag is to fly at half-mast all day (which should also be in the proclamation but is in the US Flag Code).

Guess who hasn’t done that this year (the White House Website is a mess ever since Trump’s team took over and “improved” it, but I can still find proclamations if they are issued).

Perhaps there is too much ceremony surrounding 9/11, I don’t know. That said, the law is pretty clear (where’s the proclamation, Mr. Trump).

Gov. Ricketts (R-Nebr.) usually doesn’t issue proclamations until after Donald Trump has done so (apparently my governor doesn’t want to upstage him).

He did today though:
governor.nebraska.gov

LINCOLN - Today, Governor Pete Ricketts announced that all U.S. and Nebraska flags are to be flown at half-staff on Patriot Day, which will be observed on September 11, 2018. Flags will be flown at half-staff from sunrise until sunset on Patriot Day.

Governor Ricketts also issued the following statement in observance of Patriot Day:

“On Patriot Day, we solemnly remember the lives of the Americans who were killed on this day 17 years ago. We also honor the brave first responders that selflessly risked, and in some cases sacrificed, their lives as our nation responded to the terror attacks on September 11, 2001. These heroic acts continue to inspire Americans across the country as we continue to remember the bravery displayed on that day.

“Let’s ensure that Patriot Day is a day that we as Americans come together as a country, and focus on our love of freedom as we combat the evils of terrorism that still threaten our Republic each and every day. As we do so, let’s remember the fallen, honor our heroes, and never forget that we are one United States of America.”

Patriot Day (Sept 11) is not to be confused with Patriots’ Day (Mass. state holiday, third Monday of April), marking the battles of Lexington and Concord.

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austin_blue  Sep 10, 2018 • 9:26:05pm

re: #111 freetoken

For those not aware, the US was hit by a major typhoon yesterday:

Pacific island chain asks Trump to declare emergency as typhoon strikes

Mangkhut is on its way to threaten the Philippines, then Taiwan, but it will probably end up hitting land around Hong Kong. Current IR of Mangkhut:

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That storm is a romping, stomping bit of mayhem. The south side of Taipei is in the crosshairs. That’s their primary port infrastructure.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 10, 2018 • 9:35:01pm

re: #118 teleskiguy

GOES-16. Wow.

Some wag found humour in Florence:

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sagehen  Sep 10, 2018 • 10:28:27pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Oh, yeah?

We begin bombing in five minutes (Wikipedia, more at the link)

The Soviet Union placed its army on alert over that.

A NYC indie label turned that into a record:

Bonzo Goes To Washington - 5 Minutes B B B Bombing Mix

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 11, 2018 • 6:13:17am

re: #98 dangerman

She was in uniform
The door was ajar (she says,)
The apt was dark when she fired

If that’s the case, how was she able to assess a threat?

How could she see a silhouette?


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