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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 12, 2018 • 7:43:10pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 12, 2018 • 7:48:46pm

Like Trump has any impulses that aren’t his worst. He’s the worst fucking person in the world!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 12, 2018 • 7:57:27pm

This will be a must-read:

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:08:18pm

A couple of days ago I mentioned that MsRedSpot might go to NC. The tennis tournament was moved from Asheville, NC to Columbus, GA

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:08:27pm

Just when you thought you’ve seen everything…

businesswire.com

Hershey’s Milk Chocolate and Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup Dairy Whipped Toppings bring a touch of sweetness to beverages like hot chocolate or coffee, are the perfect way to cap off a scoop of ice cream and can take your favorite cake or other baked good to the next level. They can also pump up waffles, pancakes, and other breakfast foods, or even add a burst of milk chocolate or peanut butter goodness to fruits, including bananas or apples.

Would you want to spread this on a slice of apple pie?

Or get very daring with this?

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:11:13pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just when you thought you’ve seen everything…

businesswire.com

Would you want to spread this on a slice of apple pie?

[Embedded content]

Sure, but I buy canned cheese too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:13:02pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just when you thought you’ve seen everything…

businesswire.com

Hershey’s Milk Chocolate and Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup Dairy Whipped Toppings bring a touch of sweetness to beverages like hot chocolate or coffee, are the perfect way to cap off a scoop of ice cream and can take your favorite cake or other baked good to the next level. They can also pump up waffles, pancakes, and other breakfast foods, or even add a burst of milk chocolate or peanut butter goodness to fruits, including bananas or apples.

Would you want to spread this on a slice of apple pie?

[Embedded content]

That’s going to kick the next orgy up a notch.
/There is no orgy
//There is an orgy. but I wasn’t invited

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calochortus  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:15:25pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just when you thought you’ve seen everything…

businesswire.com

Hershey’s Milk Chocolate and Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup Dairy Whipped Toppings bring a touch of sweetness to beverages like hot chocolate or coffee, are the perfect way to cap off a scoop of ice cream and can take your favorite cake or other baked good to the next level. They can also pump up waffles, pancakes, and other breakfast foods, or even add a burst of milk chocolate or peanut butter goodness to fruits, including bananas or apples.

Would you want to spread this on a slice of apple pie?

[Embedded content]

They’re both just wrong. The peanut butter cup is wronger. Chocolate whipped cream is presumably mousse-like, but the milk chocolate is wimpy. Should be a nice dark chocolate. Of course, canned whipped cream is also wrong.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:15:57pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon 🌹

Just when you thought you’ve seen everything…

businesswire.com

Hershey’s Milk Chocolate and Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup Dairy Whipped Toppings bring a touch of sweetness to beverages like hot chocolate or coffee, are the perfect way to cap off a scoop of ice cream and can take your favorite cake or other baked good to the next level. They can also pump up waffles, pancakes, and other breakfast foods, or even add a burst of milk chocolate or peanut butter goodness to fruits, including bananas or apples.

Would you want to spread this on a slice of apple pie?

[Embedded content]

The Hershey’s for sure. How much is 5 grams of whipped topping? I’d eat they shit right out of the can into my mouth as a treat. But… What on Earth is 5 grams?

That would fit into my carb allowance.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:17:05pm

re: #8 calochortus

They’re both just wrong. The peanut butter cup is wronger. Chocolate whipped cream is presumably mousse-like, but the milk chocolate is wimpy. Should be a nice dark chocolate. Of course, canned whipped cream is also wrong.

OH. YEAH!! Dark chocolate is the bomb!

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calochortus  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:21:37pm

re: #10 MsJ

OH. YEAH!! Dark chocolate is the bomb!

And health food. Stuffed full of antioxidents. Just like a piece of the peach pie I made this afternoon is a nice serving of fruit.

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:23:39pm
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plansbandc  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:27:09pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:28:36pm
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MsJ  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:30:02pm

re: #13 plansbandc

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KGxvi  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:33:29pm

re: #14 MsJ

I’m not saying, I’m just sayin…

If you see a guy in a metal suit flying around…

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MsJ  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:33:33pm

Cohen’s other client. 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

Pretty 🙏!

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mmmirele  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:34:30pm

In better news, my coworker’s cousin with the home on the beach has decided to pick up and go to Charlotte. I know Carol had been telling her to GET OUT for three days. So there will be one less stupid person trying to ride it out as Florence is tearing up the shore.

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calochortus  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:39:34pm

I’m going to say good night.

Hasta mañana, all.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:52:25pm

Oops, stuck on the last thread:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:54:14pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:54:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:56:10pm

re: #333 BeachDem

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 8:56:36pm

What? Reddit is violating peoples 1st Amendment rights now too?

//

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:01:54pm

re: #14 MsJ

To add to the mystery, the last Google Earth image of Sunspot, NM is from 10/11/2013. Subsequent image (12-13-2013) is cloud covered and not updated.

spooky

I want to believe.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:02:05pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:04:16pm

Well, it wouldn’t be a Hump Day in America with a mass shooting, now would it?

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:08:26pm

Seems apropos.

Iframe

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KGxvi  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:08:37pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That boy ain’t right

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:14:22pm

Florence’s eye is breaking down, which is good. Wind damage will be less than feared -maybe a max of 115 MPH.

However, (and this is a big as fuck however), she is carrying a huge fucking dome of water to the coast on her north side. Waves today were measured at up to 83’. It won’t be that bad at landfall, but a 25’ storm surge is reasonable north of Wilmington. In addition, if the storm stalls over SE NC and NE SC, the minimum expected rainfall is 20”. This is what Harvey did over Texas last year. Came on 150 miles south of Houston, curled to the NE, and sat down and shit.

We had 9” in Austin. 40 miles SSE they got twenty inches in Smithville. Forty miles east of Smithville they got 35”. In Houston, they got over 60”.

This is a storm that will bring water, and water kills more people than wind. A lot more.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:18:54pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Plus there’s that organising system in the Gulf of Mexico headed toward Texas/Louisiana.

There are now four tropical storms in the Atlantic Basin, with that being the fifth if it becomes a depression (currently 70%).

nhc.noaa.gov

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:28:34pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

Plus there’s that organising system in the Gulf of Mexico headed toward Texas/Louisiana.

There are now four tropical storms in the Atlantic Basin, with that being the fifth if it becomes a depression (currently 70%).

nhc.noaa.gov

Helene is headed north, Joyce just did a southern loop and is headed toward Africa.

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:29:00pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Buck Owens:

You don’t know me but you don’t like me,
You say you care less how I feel
How many of you that sit and judge me
Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?

Fuck this shit. It’s just got to stop.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:39:09pm

No, apology not accepted.
Just no

“… Cruz spoke about parental rights during a hearing over a state sex-ed code that requires discussing same-sex relationships and gender identity, which he is against. He said at the time “it wasn’t Hitler that was bad, it was the people that follow the laws and the agenda.”

In Wednesday’s statement, Cruz said: “Of course, Hitler was awful.”

Cruz said the point of his comment was that people should stand up against bad laws like he is trying to stand up against California’s sex education mandate. …”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:42:52pm

Or, she’s thinking seriously about a light snack

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TedStriker  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:43:03pm

re: #33 austin_blue

Buck Owens:

You don’t know me but you don’t like me,
You say you care less how I feel
How many of you that sit and judge me
Ever walked the streets of Bakersfield?

Fuck this shit. It’s just got to stop.

No shit.

Dwight Yoakam and Buck Owens Streets of Bakersfield

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Belafon  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:50:00pm

re: #13 plansbandc

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:51:35pm

While the Atlantic has to deal with tropical storms, we were just put under a Red Flag warning (the warning stretches from California through Nevada, southern Wyoming, Utah, northwest Colorado, and the Nebraska Panhandle).

Well, we won’t drown at least.

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plansbandc  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:52:35pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:53:31pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No, apology not accepted.
Just no

And already “Nazis were really socialists” appearing on that thread.

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:54:22pm

Meanwhile, in East Asia, there’s this absolute monster:

twitter.com

Yes, that’s 180+ MPH straight line winds and gusts up to 250 MPH.

Not counting the spin-off tornadoes.

This is what a global warming Typhoon looks like and this is the new normal.

It is death, the destroyer of worlds. At least for the people in its path.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 9:59:25pm

re: #41 austin_blue

Meanwhile, in East Asia, there’s this absolute monster:

twitter.com

Yes, that’s 180+ MPH straight line winds and gusts up to 250 MPH.

Not counting the spin-off tornadoes.

This is what a global warming Typhoon looks like and this is the new normal.

It is death, the destroyer of worlds. At least for the people in its path.

And not counting the forward motion of the storm (added to the right side of the path).

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:02:31pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

And not counting the forward motion of the storm (added to the right side of the path).

[Embedded content]

Yes. It’s an F4 tornado 500 miles wide.

There’s your new normal in the greenhouse.

We need to fix it or die.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:11:36pm

Weather report from The Philippines met office, with predicted track of the typhoon.

bagong.pagasa.dost.gov.ph

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makeitstop  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:15:06pm

We went into NYC and saw 80s legends Killing Joke tonight. It was one of the best shows I’ve seen in quite a while. Jaz Coleman is a great front man, absolutely riveting, and the band sounded amazing. I never got to see them in their heyday, but I’m glad we went to see them tonight. They kicked New York City’s ass tonight, and we were lucky enough to witness it.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:15:36pm

Time for some Luna Lee gayageum playing.

Kim Carnes-Bette Davis Eyes Gayageum가야금ver. by Luna루나

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:21:33pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:25:25pm

re: #46 wheat-dogg

Time for some Luna Lee gayageum playing.

[Embedded content]

Now I’m really in love with her. She sings Blind Faith - Can’t Find My Way Home.

Blind Faith- Can’t Find My Way Home Gayageum(가야금)ver. by Luna(루나)

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prairiefire  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:35:25pm

re: #48 Single-handed sailor

I like her decor. She does sound good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:42:26pm

A Wonkette non-commentator sums up the legislative history of Senator Ted Cruz.

—-

Beto doesn’t stand a chance against a legislative giant like Ted Cruz.

As a public service, I have perused a comprehensive list of bills, resolutions and amendments sponsored by Ted Cruz in the course of his illustrious tenure of 5.5 years.

There are 290 items in this list.

Of bills sponsored by Ted Cruz, the following became law:
S.442 - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Transition Authorization Act of 2017
S.2195 - A bill to deny admission to the United States to any representative to the United Nations who has been found to have been engaged in espionage activities or a terrorist activity against the United States and poses a threat to United States national security interests.

Of resolutions sponsored by Ted Cruz, the following were Agreed to in the Senate:
- A resolution commemorating the 230th anniversary of the signing of the Constitution of the United States.
- A resolution calling on the Government of Iran to release unjustly detained United States citizens and legal permanent resident aliens, and for other purposes.
- A resolution honoring the life and achievements of Eugene A. “Gene” Cernan.

I think you will agree, Ted has left his mark.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:43:43pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed if you reload it.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:49:01pm

re: #49 prairiefire

I like her decor. She does sound good.

She apparently was just recently in the States. One of her recent videos is from Dodger stadium, and another from the Pop Museum.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:50:27pm

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

Earthshaking accomplishments, to be sure. Canada Ted will be forever enshrined in the history books as a powerful leader!
//

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austin_blue  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:51:51pm

Night all, I’m off for the rack.

I’d like to feel some empathy for people who are not evacuating from the east coast, but I can’t. They are going to require rescue assets that should be available for people farther inland who left and still need rescue. There is going to be a shitpot of those folks. This is a MAJOR rainmaker. It’s going to flood almost all coastal rivers in both Carolinas.

Those people will be ignored because the idiots who refused to evacuate have already been interviewed and have a level of pathos among the great unwashed (i.e. Fox viewers).

It’s an Emergency Response Coordinators nightmare.

Fuck ‘em. Let them die where they have decided to Stand They’re (inundated) Ground. Sometimes, stupid people just deserve to die.

Sorry, not sorry.

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teleskiguy  Sep 12, 2018 • 10:53:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:10:17pm

Shots fired… .

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:19:09pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ll say this. Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed, whether Heitkamp votes for him or not. The Democrats have a one-in-three shot of winning control of the US Senate, which is remarkably good considering how bad the senatorial map is for the Democrats this year. If Heitkamp thinks she needs to vote for Kavanaugh, I’m not going to hold it against her, because hers will not be the deciding vote; that vote belongs to Kyl when he got appointed to the Senate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:23:34pm

re: #57 Big Beautiful Door

I’ll say this. Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed, whether Heitkamp votes for him or not. The Democrats have a one-in-three shot of winning control of the US Senate, which is remarkably good considering how bad the senatorial map is for the Democrats this year. If Heitkamp thinks she needs to vote for Kavanaugh, I’m not going to hold it against her, because hers will not be the deciding vote; that vote belongs to Kyl when he got appointed to the Senate.

Well, you’re left with 46 D and 2 I senators. Angus King and Bernie Sanders aren’t going to vote for him. That would leave flipping Murkowski and Collins. The fact that every R in the Senate is caterwauling about money being raised to finance opponents to them says quite a bit (they’re hypocrites, but they’re also not sure if those two will actually hold the GOP line).

Upthread I noted a ruling from Kavanaugh against disabled women, essentially affirming eugenics as a position.

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:32:44pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

Well, you’re left with 46 D and 2 I senators. Angus King and Bernie Sanders aren’t going to vote for him. That would leave flipping Murkowski and Collins. The fact that every R in the Senate is caterwauling about money being raised to finance opponents to them says quite a bit (they’re hypocrites, but they’re also not sure if those two will actually hold the GOP line).

Upthread I noted a ruling from Kavanaugh against disabled women, essentially affirming eugenics as a position.

Collins is going to vote for Kavanaugh, you can take it to the bank. She wouldn’t have been caterwauling (great word, btw) if she was considering casting a no vote. I haven’t seen any evidence that Murkowski will vote no, and they both have to if all 49 Democrats vote no in order to stop Kavanaugh.

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sagehen  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:42:46pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

Well, you’re left with 46 D and 2 I senators. Angus King and Bernie Sanders aren’t going to vote for him. That would leave flipping Murkowski and Collins. The fact that every R in the Senate is caterwauling about money being raised to finance opponents to them says quite a bit (they’re hypocrites, but they’re also not sure if those two will actually hold the GOP line).

Upthread I noted a ruling from Kavanaugh against disabled women, essentially affirming eugenics as a position.

Corker and Flake both like to pretend that they’re anti-Trump. And they’re not running for reelection. There would be no cost to either of them to vote against Kavanaugh… unless they’ve already lined up high-paid lobbyist jobs starting in January that they’d lose. Ben Sasse also likes to pretend to be anti-Trump; you’d think they’d have learned by now to be better at pretending if they wanted us to believe them.

ETA: isn’t it 47 D and 2 I?

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:42:51pm

re: #44 Anymouse 🌹

Unfortunately the graphics on the Philippines service site may mislead, as the graphic shows uncertainty in the center of the storm.

A better graphic is from the JTWC, which shows that half of the area of Mangkhut’s hurricane force winds are over the northern part of the Philippines:

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freetoken  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:47:49pm

The Japanese meteorological office also shows Mangkhut plowing right through northern Philippines:

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:52:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:53:57pm

re: #60 sagehen

ETA: isn’t it 47 D and 2 I?

Correct. I miscounted.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 12, 2018 • 11:59:36pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:00:12am

re: #60 sagehen

Corker and Flake both like to pretend that they’re anti-Trump. And they’re not running for reelection. There would be no cost to either of them to vote against Kavanaugh… unless they’ve already lined up high-paid lobbyist jobs starting in January that they’d lose. Ben Sasse also likes to pretend to be anti-Trump; you’d think they’d have learned by now to be better at pretending if they wanted us to believe them.

ETA: isn’t it 47 D and 2 I?

They may think Trump is bad for the GOP brand, but they are all on-board for the GOP agenda of screwing ordinary people in favor of corporations and the rich. The fact is that any GOP President would’ve appointed Kavanaugh or someone just like him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:00:13am

What
The
Actual
FUCK?

“… “They’ve decided that the next stop is Virtue Town,” Ms. Loesch said Friday on “Relentless,” the NRATV program that she hosts. She was responding to news that the children’s show was adding several female and international characters. …

… In the segment, Ms. Loesch, an outspoken conservative commentator, questioned the decision to add the new characters, including Nia, a train from Kenya. How, she asked, could the children’s show introduce “ethnic diversity” when its anthropomorphized characters are mostly trains?

“I’m really, really struggling to understand how in the world there isn’t any diversity in any of this,” she said, before showing a photo of several characters in Ku Klux Klan hoods in front of burning tracks.

“Fair, I get it,” she deadpanned in response to the image. “Thomas the Tank Engine has been a blight on race relations for far too long.” …”

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:03:07am

Over at the Great Orange Satan …

No Democrat in a purple state need worry about voting against Kavanaugh, and new polling in red states suggests that voting against him would actually help red state Democrats. A YouGov poll conducted in battleground states Florida, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota, and West Virginia before the hearings and just released show that the overwhelming majority of undecided voters didn’t really care about this vote. In Florida, 80 percent of undecided voters say it won’t make a difference; Missouri: 76 percent; Indiana: 68 percent; West Virginia: 80 percent; and North Dakota: 80 percent.

However, and this is a big however, in all of those states the Democratic base is tuned into the nomination and cares. Democrats are looking to their Democratic senators to oppose Kavanaugh:

dailykos.com

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:04:56am

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What
The
Actual
FUCK?

[Embedded content]

The NRA sells guns by selling fear and hate to white people. The whole point of this travesty is that if they’re diversifying Thomas the Tank Engine today, they’ll be moving scary brown people into your neighborhood tomorrow, so you better be stocking up your arsenal with more guns and ammo.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:08:41am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

Over at the Great Orange Satan …

dailykos.com

And that is the calculation Heitkamp and the others need to make. It would be nice if the final vote to confirm was 51-49, but at the end of the day Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed, and I’m not going to second guess her decision; we need her to gain control of the Senate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:16:51am

re: #70 Big Beautiful Door

Here at home, the Omaha World-Herald seems to be leaning toward Jane Raybould over Sen. Deb Fischer (R-Cypher):

Sen. Deb Fischer can’t hide from her record of being completely entrenched in the swamp of Washington. She’s spent the last six years rubbing elbows with corporate lobbyists who’ve contributed $1.5 million to campaign for Senate, following her party bosses who she votes with 98 percent of the time — even when it hurts Nebraskans. All the while, Fischer has enriched herself while in office, watching her net worth grow from $300,000 in 2013 to over $4 million in 2017, and Fischer refuses to tell Nebraskans how she’s gotten so rich while in office.

Today, the Omaha World-Herald highlighted Fischer’s record of being a certified Washington insider, writing:

“Taking an outsider’s tack is popular when an incumbent’s party faces political headwinds. The approach is complicated for Fischer, whose record in the Legislature and Senate shows legislating as a strength, including negotiating and twisting arms behind closed doors. She’s a whip on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s team and one of his trusted confidants. Earlier this year, Fischer’s office confirmed her intention to run for vice chair of the Senate GOP caucus. That race will pit her against Ernst, if Fischer wins re-election against Raybould.”

D.C. Deb Fischer can’t run from her record or distance herself from her party because the voters know the truth: Fischer has spent the last six years aligning herself with power brokers in Washington and allowing them to guide her votes on the Senate floor.

“Senator Fischer has voted along party lines to give massive, permanent tax breaks to the corporations who bankroll her campaign while hiking taxes on the middle class. She voted with her party to cut Medicare by $500 billion. And, she voted with her party to spike health insurance costs for Nebraskans. There is nothing independent about my opponent,” said U.S. candidate Jane Raybould. “Fischer’s record shows she votes like a DC insider, and when it walks and smells like a pig — it probably is.”

janeraybould.com

In the meantime, on my side of the state, the Scottsbluff Star-Herald has a both-siderist political cartoon on the record number of women running for office.

starherald.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:23:09am

Shooting in Scottsbluff a couple days ago (apparently no one was injured, but look at the part I highlighted):

The teen has been charged with discharging a firearm near a vehicle/building, a Class IC felony; three counts of terroristic threats, a Class IIIA felony; three counts of use of a firearm to commit a felony, a Class IC felony; and a charge of assault resulting in bodily injury, a Class I misdemeanor.

According to an arrest affidavit, an investigation found that the teen had been at the Scottsbluff McDonald’s at about 10:30 p.m. on Sept. 8 when he allegedly pulled a .40 caliber semi-automatic hand gun from a girl’s pants at the restaurant. As he left the restaurant, one of the person’s reported that he had pulled the firearm and shot at a pick up occupied by two people, challenging them to a fight. The gunshots reportedly struck the pick up, going through the grill, into a radiator before striking the frame of the pick up, the arrest affidavit said.

(more) starherald.com

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:39:19am

As far as I can tell he wants to build large, fancy ,expensive condo and apartment complexes to lower housing costs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:47:06am

Rosanne Barr promoting Russian propaganda …

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:48:33am

re: #73 Single-handed sailor

As far as I can tell he wants to build large, fancy ,expensive condo and apartment complexes to lower housing costs.

“Reducing onerous zoning regulations” to a conservative usually means

a) luxury housing
b) putting industry anywhere you want.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:57:53am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I posted that last night before I went to bed; apparently, the Reddit admins banned at least 19 QAnon-related subreddits. Inciting violence, doxxing, etc., were the reasons the “Q”ultists were given the boot.

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steve_davis  Sep 13, 2018 • 1:21:21am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

Well, you’re left with 46 D and 2 I senators. Angus King and Bernie Sanders aren’t going to vote for him. That would leave flipping Murkowski and Collins. The fact that every R in the Senate is caterwauling about money being raised to finance opponents to them says quite a bit (they’re hypocrites, but they’re also not sure if those two will actually hold the GOP line).

Upthread I noted a ruling from Kavanaugh against disabled women, essentially affirming eugenics as a position.

if collins and murkowski flip, that would leave it at 50-50 and Pence would cast the tie-breaker.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 13, 2018 • 1:37:36am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

Just to let people here now, the number of banned QAnon-related subreddits is now up to at least 32.

Also, it looks like a lot of the QAnon nutjobs have fled Reddit and moved over to Voat (I made the mistake of taking a look there, and good lord, what a cesspit….it makes Stormfront look respectable in comparison!).

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 2:37:54am

The waves starting to look pretty foamy at Emerald Isle, NC:

eilivesurf.com

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2018 • 3:43:28am

Anyone listening to the new series II of “Slow Burn” on the Clinton years? This week is about Linda Tripp. She idolized the GHW Bush WH (she worked there for a few months) and was immediately appalled by the Clintons. From day 1 she was looking for ways to undermine them, especially after Vincent Foster’s suicide. (It’s pretty amazing in hindsight how the Foster suicide added jet fuel to rumors and conspiracy theories about Clinton.) Tripp presents herself as an older woman who was determined to prevent anymore women from falling prey to Bill’s abuse and harassment in manipulating ML to retell her story—Tripp had already heard most of it when she hooked up with a publisher and Ken Starr to begin making recordings; she had to get Monica to basically retell everything on the phone.

Superficially, one could say that many anti-trumpets are no different: having already decided we hate him, we look for anything to undermine him. But there are real and important differences, of course. Trump had decades long record of documented amoral behavior and contacts with criminals and mobsters, etc. etc. Clinton’s scandals like Whitewater and the Travel office were much ado about nothing—it all boiled down to his sexual impulses.

So, of course, in reality there are stark differences between what compels conservative moralists like Tripp and what compels others in seeking justice.

As a side note, I have never really liked Bill Clinton. I voted for him, but seriously thought about Bob Dole. I’ve had my issues with HRC from time to time, but I think that was probably more due to how my dislike of Bill rubbed off on her. Listening to Slow Burn is really giving me some renewed perspective.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:05:57am

Good Morning!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:14:46am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Here at home, the Omaha World-Herald seems to be leaning toward Jane Raybould over Sen. Deb Fischer (R-Cypher):

janeraybould.com

In the meantime, on my side of the state, the Scottsbluff Star-Herald has a both-siderist political cartoon on the record number of women running for office.

starherald.com

According to 538.com Raybould has a nearly 5% chance of beating Fischer, which is better than no chance at all.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:15:40am

re: #77 steve_davis

if collins and murkowski flip, that would leave it at 50-50 and Pence would cast the tie-breaker.

If both Collins and Murkowski flip and the D’s hold firm, the vote would be 49-51(47 D, 2 I, and 2 R) and Kavanaugh would be rejected.

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Teukka  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:18:07am

For Charles: ;)

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:23:41am

re: #73 Single-handed sailor

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As far as I can tell he wants to build large, fancy ,expensive condo and apartment complexes to lower housing costs.

This is actually a good idea. California especially desperately needs more housing units.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:26:00am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

Rosanne Barr promoting Russian propaganda …

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I bet they will attract dozens of marchers for that event!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:38:50am

the moron is so freaking predictable

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:53:11am

I’m with Debra too. Sarandon hasn’t changed since making ludicrous claims about Secretary Clinton.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:56:21am

How many Darwin Award winners will follow their “Fake News” Master’s advice?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:56:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:57:36am

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 4:58:35am

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:00:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:16:13am

watching teevee

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:21:16am

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What
The
Actual
FUCK?

How is that homing system for the Sweet Meteor of Death coming along? We need to hurry it up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:40:56am
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SteelPH  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:42:35am

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well Trump’s good at one type of hurricane:

A Hurricane of Bullshit.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:43:27am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:43:39am

re: #88 Patricia Kayden

I’m with Debra too. Sarandon hasn’t changed since making ludicrous claims about Secretary Clinton.

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Sarandon is calling Messing self righteous? That’s rich.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:45:45am

Fucker is now denying the 3000 dead in Puerto Rico.

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SteelPH  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:46:03am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Sarandon is calling Messing self righteous? That’s rich.

Especially considering Sarandon’s sociopathic response to all that’s happened to far.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:46:49am

re: #95 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

How is that homing system for the Sweet Meteor of Death coming along? We need to hurry it up.

Why does the NRA care about diversity on a children’s show especially a British one. Dana is so easily triggered over stupid shit. Meanwhile she doesn’t give two fucks about victims of gun violence or police misconduct because she’s a heartless racist asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:48:04am

re: #100 Bubblehead II

Fucker is now denying the 3000 dead in Puerto Rico.

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He’s such a despicable asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:55:02am

So Kavanaugh has an opinion where he supports FORCED abortion. And the “pro-life” groups are sticking with him. I see they’ve had their jump the shark moment.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:55:04am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:55:49am

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

watching teevee

What’s the supposed ‘crime’ here in these text messages?

Fox News wants them “brought to justice” for….what?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:57:18am

re: #105 Bubblehead II

successfully raising Billions of Dollars”

I guess there can be unsuccessful raising of Billions of Dollars but what do I know.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:59:27am

re: #105 Bubblehead II

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Paranoid piece of shit. He really needs to go to fucking jail. And take his fucking Twitter account away from him too. Whiny little asshole.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:59:51am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

Rosanne Barr promoting Russian propaganda …

Yes, walk away, please.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:00:17am

re: #107 Sir John Barron

successfully raising Billions of Dollars”

I guess there can be unsuccessful raising of Billions of Dollars but what do I know.

But faux news will run with the successful part and the rubes will believe it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:00:35am

re: #106 Sir John Barron

What’s the supposed ‘crime’ here in these text messages?

Fox News wants them “brought to justice” for….what?

Apparently FBI agents aren’t supposed to say bad things about Trump but FNC can bring in former military and others to bash the Clintons and Obama and that’s somehow different. FNC: Being Trump’s Goebels.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:01:06am

re: #109 Sir John Barron

Yes, walk away, please.

Walk away to the next flight to Moscow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:04:00am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:04:35am

Re: The NRA, their stupid point from what I can see is that having a character that is supposed to be African is no different from having others with Klanhoods because you know African identity is the same as being a white supremacist. What those assholes don’t get is why diversity is a big deal for chlidren’s TV is so children of all ages can see themselves in the characters more easily. It’s why Dora the Explorer rightfully was a big deal for Hispanic children but I don’t expect an organization that can’t even get their own mission right(their lack of saying anything about Castile spoke volumes to their true purpose) to get that about TV broadcasting.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:05:20am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Some of them should even join him in a cell. It’s all about tax cuts and judges to those assholes. McConnell, Ryan, and the others all know he’s a fucking crook but they don’t care.

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jeffreyw  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:06:18am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:11:15am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Re: The NRA, their stupid point from what I can see is that having a character that is supposed to be African is no different from having others with Klanhoods because you know African identity is the same as being a white supremacist. What those assholes don’t get is why diversity is a big deal for chlidren’s TV is so children of all ages can see themselves in the characters more easily. It’s why Dora the Explorer rightfully was a big deal for Hispanic children but I don’t expect an organization that can’t even get their own mission right(their lack of saying anything about Castile spoke volumes to their true purpose) to get that about TV broadcasting.

What does N-R-A stand for again? I forget.

///

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:13:53am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:15:19am

re: #117 Sir John Barron

What does N-R-A stand for again? I forget.

///

National Retrograde Assholes. But yeah, it really says a lot that Dana took the time to complain about this but not a word of support for lawful gun owner Philando Castile who was killed but then again Dana and her gun hoarding friends don’t care about non white gun owners. They never have. Just as they’re stupidly saying that the young man in Dallas should have been armed. We all know damn well if he had fired back at her, they’d be doing the all lives matter thing and calling him a cop killer.

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SteelPH  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:15:38am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:16:54am

they are deplorable morons, Matthew

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:24:40am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Florence is bearing down on the Southeast and while the top winds top out now as a Cat 2 storm, the size and speed of the storm (forward motion) means that the storm is going to be pushing a crazy amount of water ahead of it as a storm surge, and the slow speed means that we’ll see record flooding inland.

None of this is good even when you have a competent admin running things, but this is Trumpworld, where he’s gone from fixating on who the anonymous op-ed leaker and who spilled beans to Woodward to fixating on dismissing the official death toll in Puerto Rico now nearly 3,000 thanks to his depraved indifference.

He’s busy disputing the tally and blaming everyone but him and his cronies for the failed relief effort. He’s claiming it is fake news. He’s blaming Democrats.

The GOP and Fox are busy burying the news with an avalanche of misinformation, starting with Dana Loesch spewing nonsensical inanities at the viewers, claiming that Democrats don’t have a plan and that all they’re doing is obstructing (projecting like IMAX).

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:25:00am

Salisbury Cathedral? I thought people went to Salisbury for the steak….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:25:24am

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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they are deplorable morons, Matthew

You’re in MENSA, James and you don’t know that the first amendment is precisely about the government. Oh and I didn’t see you rallying behind the Dixie Chicks who were far more relevant than Norm McDonald is getting blacklisted by Nashville for saying something far more mild than McDonald did. God, you conservatives are hopelessly stupid in how little you understand the Constitution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:25:47am
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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:26:33am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:28:45am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Apparently FBI agents aren’t supposed to say bad things about Trump but FNC can bring in former military and others to bash the Clintons and Obama and that’s somehow different. FNC: Being Trump’s Goebels.

Yeah I still want to see all the text messages from the NYC FBI and all the text messages involving the Benghazi investigation(s) and all the text messages involving the “reopening” of the email investigation in the week before election day.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:32:58am

re: #127 Sir John Barron

Yeah I still want to see all the text messages from the NYC FBI and all the text messages involving the Benghazi investigation(s) and all the text messages involving the “reopening” of the email investigation in the week before election day.

I bet alot calling Clinton a bitch, c*nt, etc. Trump just was upset that there were people that didn’t worship his sorry orange ass.

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Citizen K  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:34:00am

re: #126 lawhawk

And yet the worse part is non-Fox outlets continuing to take the shit at face value, normalize it and treat it the same as harmless politics. All the while demeaning and consistently trying to delegitimize anything to the contrary, because anything that comes from a liberal or from Democrats must be inherently illegitimate and wrong. Because the default for America must always be conservative governance. Because “Real America” hates liberals and Democrats, therefore everything they do must be inherently suspect and wrong and Conservatives by proxy must always be right, just, and be taken very very fucking seriously even when proven to be acting in bad faith.

Because nothing fucking matters, and this country is hardwired only for conservatism, no matter how hard we seem to try.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:36:28am
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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:39:13am

re: #129 Citizen K

Arguably the most under appreciated thing gone wrong in these recent years.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:40:01am

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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McNabb should identify the police officer so he can be exposed.

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Citizen K  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:41:21am

re: #131 Unshaken Defiance

Arguably the most under appreciated thing gone wrong in these recent years.

Underappreciated if only because the media structure abhors any attempt at self-reflection, except when it’s related to the dreaded ‘liberal media’ attacks they’re so absolutely sure they can finally inoculate themselves from with another hagiography toward ‘Real Americans’.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:41:58am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:42:10am

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump can’t even tell the truth about a dang hurricane. Nothing he says is based on reality.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:44:48am

He’s like a little kid who screws up. I didn’t cause the dog to shit in the house. My friend Billy says I did a great job taking care of the house when you were gone and Billy’s opinion is the truth and everyone else is a liar!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:44:51am

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

watching teevee

Sometimes I fantasize about an alternative world where candidate Hillary Clinton ragetweets all day about the Corrupt FBI investigation of her email server, denies any missing emails, says ever other federal official had a private server, that people just have Clinton-Derangement-Syndrome, etc.

Don’t know if that would have made things better, I just think about it from time to time.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:47:23am
In the less than two months since Nixon declared her candidacy, Cuomo all but reversed his opposition to legalizing recreational marijuana, which he called “a gateway drug” as recently as last year; proposed a ban on single-use plastic bags, again barely a year after he signed legislation barring New York City from imposing a tax on them; vowed to use his pardon power to restore voting rights to as many as 35,000 felons; and declared a state of emergency at the city’s public-housing authority.

I’m sure all of these will last until after the election.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:49:23am

re: #137 Sir John Barron

Sometimes I fantasize about an alternative world where candidate Hillary Clinton ragetweets all day about the Corrupt FBI investigation of her email server, denies any missing emails, says ever other federal official had a private server, that people just have Clinton-Derangement-Syndrome, etc.

Don’t know if that would have made things better, I just think about it from time to time.

I just and I know Wendell hates this but I do think about the reactions if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama acted the way Trump did. Trump gets away with so much crap and it’s because he’s a white guy. Woman politician complains the way he does? She’s too sensitive, not tough enough, hysterical, etc. Black politician has his background of treating women like shit, being a vulgar asshole, etc. And he’s regarded to Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton status. But pointing this out is why Trump won apparently.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:51:05am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

He got many A-plusses for his response to the Hurricane. He had a Great response to the hurricane in the Nation of Puerto Rico, OK?

//

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:51:29am

Stills kneels, and visits veterans, and Rubio shows his lack of spine:

h/t dailykos.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:53:55am

re: #141 Belafon

He kneels, and visits veterans:

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h/t dailykos.com

And where were you when Trump called him a son of a bitch, Marco? God, you’re fucking useless Marco. You do a great job of showing the public what an uniformed person’s idea of what a Senator is supposed to act like but you’re actually really a fucking fake who could care less about Kenny Stills or the military, you only care about your ambitions and making your Republican benefactors happy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:56:46am

at least the money is still intact.
maybe…

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:59:17am

re: #138 Belafon

Cuomo’s likely to win by 30-40 points in today’s primary. Nixon’s critiques have merit, particularly around transit and housing issues, and Cuomo has pivoted on some of the issues, coopting Nixon’s positions (he’s a craven opportunist - and the parallels between his personality and that of Christie can’t be understated).

Thing is that his presidential ambitions are going to get crushed in a hurry as others show they are more attuned to the nation’s needs, are seen as more sympathetic, and aren’t as nakedly ambitious as Cuomo is perceived.

But this is also is a reason why political parties need to have strong benches and contested primaries, because it pushes candidates to do better. Incumbents shouldn’t get a pass because they’re the incumbents.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:00:53am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He can’t do the job. It’s been clear for a long time that he can’t. And the people conspiring to keep him in office to score another tax cut or another judge while he piles one horror on top of another should feel shame for the rest of their lives.

(They won’t)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:03:15am

I’m shocked, SHOCKED, I say!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:06:19am
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ipsos  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:06:50am

re: #144 lawhawk

Cuomo’s likely to win by 30-40 points in today’s primary. Nixon’s critiques have merit, particularly around transit and housing issues, and Cuomo has pivoted on some of the issues, coopting Nixon’s positions (he’s a craven opportunist - and the parallels between his personality and that of Christie can’t be understated).

Lawhawk, what’s your take on the state AG race? All of the candidates seem to have pretty good strengths. I’m partial to the argument the NYT made (in endorsing Zephyr Teachout) that Maloney is better served by staying in Congress, and that Teachout’s independence will matter a lot in the AG role. I wish we could keep our current interim AG, Barbara Underwood. She’s fantastic - but she got the appointment to replace Eric Schneiderman based on a promise she wouldn’t run to keep the seat.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:08:02am

re: #93 Patricia Kayden

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The students didn’t call the police because,

Asked why the group didn’t call police, Thomas said: “That would have just been another black man dead.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:11:12am

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Re: The NRA, their stupid point from what I can see is that having a character that is supposed to be African is no different from having others with Klanhoods because you know African identity is the same as being a white supremacist. What those assholes don’t get is why diversity is a big deal for chlidren’s TV is so children of all ages can see themselves in the characters more easily. It’s why Dora the Explorer rightfully was a big deal for Hispanic children but I don’t expect an organization that can’t even get their own mission right(their lack of saying anything about Castile spoke volumes to their true purpose) to get that about TV broadcasting.

They don’t care; its all about scaring white people into buying more guns and ammunition.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:14:30am

I don’t have unrealistically high expectations. I have UNREALISTICALLY ADEQUATE expectations.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:18:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:20:50am

he is nutz

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nowherenorth2  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:23:06am

At the gym this am…and the trump supporter said that I need to live in the now, trump is making America great, that Obama destroyed the exonomy and the nation.
I asked about the recession and how we got out of it, the death toll of puerto Rico, and the continue negligence of the administration and failure of the federal government and our standing on the world stage.
He said that was then, stop living in the past because it doesn’t mean anything now…
Shit like that actually bothers me immensely more than I let on because I am a certified social studies teacher for new York state
I am 35 and the trump supporter is 67.
He wants me to accept reality and that Christianity was persecuted and that trump’s actions have made us as a nation better. And that the last doesn’t matter or have the same effect on trump as others….

Just…wow………

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:27:04am

re: #154 nowherenorth2

At the gym this am…and the trump supporter said that I need to live in the now, trump is making America great, that Obama destroyed the exonomy and the nation.
I asked about the recession and how we got out of it, the death toll of puerto Rico, and the continue negligence of the administration and failure of the federal government and our standing on the world stage.
He said that was then, stop living in the past because it doesn’t mean anything now…
Shit like that actually bothers me immensely more than I let on because I am a certified social studies teacher for new York state
I am 35 and the trump supporter is 67.
He wants me to accept reality and that Christianity was persecuted and that trump’s actions have made us as a nation better. And that the last doesn’t matter or have the same effect on trump as others….

Just…wow………

“Ignore reality, just focus on my voice.”

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:29:41am

re: #144 lawhawk

But this is also is a reason why political parties need to have strong benches and contested primaries, because it pushes candidates to do better. Incumbents shouldn’t get a pass because they’re the incumbents.

New York (as I recall) also has an absolutely ridiculous voter-suppression system in that, if you want to vote in a closed primary, you need to switch your party registration at least ONE YEAR in advance. I understand not allowing open primaries, but that rule takes the concept to incumbent-protection-racket level.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:35:04am

re: #154 nowherenorth2

Wait till the GOP cuts his Social Security and Medicare. Won’t stop him from blaming Obama…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:35:30am

re: #154 nowherenorth2

At the gym this am…and the trump supporter said that I need to live in the now, trump is making America great, that Obama destroyed the exonomy and the nation.
I asked about the recession and how we got out of it, the death toll of puerto Rico, and the continue negligence of the administration and failure of the federal government and our standing on the world stage.
He said that was then, stop living in the past because it doesn’t mean anything now…
Shit like that actually bothers me immensely more than I let on because I am a certified social studies teacher for new York state
I am 35 and the trump supporter is 67.
He wants me to accept reality and that Christianity was persecuted and that trump’s actions have made us as a nation better. And that the last doesn’t matter or have the same effect on trump as others….

Just…wow………

Thanks I’m gonna go to my office and hit myself over the head with this hammer for an hour.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:42:17am

Getting kind of choppy out there:

ablivesurf.com

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Citizen K  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:48:11am
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nowherenorth2  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:48:14am

re: #156 Interesting Times

That is true. In northern NY, st. Lawrence county to be precise, they do not tell anyone this, just that the primaries are happening.
Got into an argument when I went to the local office about this. Just told the people that they need to let the public know

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:50:13am

High tide coming up in about an hour:

tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov

Fortunately Florence, if it keeps its current forward speed, will hit at low tide.

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nowherenorth2  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:50:16am

re: #157 Joe Bacon 🌹

It is sad (this goes to all the people who responded) because I tried to point out why isolationist policies and Trump’s policies don’t work, and cite examples and how it failed.

Always the answer: that’s the past you learn nothing from it…
But these people are the persecuted people apparently

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:51:55am

re: #163 nowherenorth2

It is sad (this goes to all the people who responded) because I tried to point out why isolationist policies and Trump’s policies don’t work, and cite examples and how it failed.

Always the answer: that’s the past you learn nothing from it…
But these people are the persecuted people apparently

Slap him upside the head.
“Hey, why did you do that?”
“That’s in the past. Don’t worry about it. You can’t learn anything from it.”

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Alephnaught  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:56:44am

re: #159 freetoken

Getting kind of choppy out there:

ablivesurf.com

I went on that webcam, and noticed a couple of really sensible people taking a walk on the beach.

“Hey! Look at that great big blowy cloud thing over there!”
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:59:05am

re: #148 ipsos

Lawhawk, what’s your take on the state AG race? All of the candidates seem to have pretty good strengths. I’m partial to the argument the NYT made (in endorsing Zephyr Teachout) that Maloney is better served by staying in Congress, and that Teachout’s independence will matter a lot in the AG role. I wish we could keep our current interim AG, Barbara Underwood. She’s fantastic - but she got the appointment to replace Eric Schneiderman based on a promise she wouldn’t run to keep the seat.

The Illinois AG Democratic primary race had 8 candidates with at least 5 that had serious credentials and were highly qualified. My friends supported different candidates; it was a real challenge trying to decide whom to support. As it turned out, the candidate endorsed by the establishment won the nomination but they all would have been excellent choices.

—edited to clarify

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:59:59am

re: #100 Bubblehead II

3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico.

We were at the animal hospital when CNN reported this. Of all the fucked up, stupid and dangerous things this rotten sob of a bitch has done, this one made me want to just start smashing things.

There better be a lot of pushback on this. Make that motherfucker own those deaths. He is responsible.

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rhuarc  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:01:49am

Frying Pan Ocean Cam powered by EXPLORE.org

A webcam 34 miles off the coast of the Carolinas. Directly in the path of the hurricane. The wind speed is impressive right now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:01:52am

re: #167 makeitstop

We were at the animal hospital when CNN reported this. Of all the fucked up, stupid and dangerous things this rotten sob of a bitch has done, this one made me want to just start smashing things.

There better be a lot of pushback on this. Make that motherfucker own those deaths. He is responsible.

Yeah. The response was bad enough and now he’s actively denying what happened happened. There needs to be blowback on this big time. Of course, it will become an article of faith to the MAGA cult that the numbers were made up.

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:03:40am

re: #148 ipsos

Lawhawk, what’s your take on the state AG race? All of the candidates seem to have pretty good strengths. I’m partial to the argument the NYT made (in endorsing Zephyr Teachout) that Maloney is better served by staying in Congress

Maloney sounds the absolute worst choice:

Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-N.Y.), who entered the race on June 6, does not fit within this paradigm. In 2013, he was one of just nine Democrats in the House who voted with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in his gambit to suspend implementation of Obamacare ― a clash that resulted in a government shutdown. Two years later, he was one of only four House Democrats who voted with Republicans to bar undocumented immigrants from receiving federal housing aid. He voted with Republicans on two major laws unwinding key parts of the post-financial crisis Wall Street reforms. One Maloney-backed repeal will enable banks to hide racial discrimination in mortgage lending, while another, authored by Citigroup lobbyists, provided federal subsidies to big banks trading in the risky derivatives at the heart of the 2008 crash. He has voted to increase Donald Trump’s military budget and expand his warrantless surveillance powers.

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SteelPH  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:05:09am

re: #170 Interesting Times

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:06:18am

re: #167 makeitstop

We were at the animal hospital when CNN reported this. Of all the fucked up, stupid and dangerous things this rotten sob of a bitch has done, this one made me want to just start smashing things.

There better be a lot of pushback on this. Make that motherfucker own those deaths. He is responsible.

I’m waiting for Faux News to try and amplify this load of shit. Currently they are just ignoring it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:07:21am

re: #171 SteelPH

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:08:51am

re: #172 Bubblehead II

I’m waiting for Faux News to try and amplify this load of shit. Currently they are just ignoring it.

FNC will find some random distraction for their viewers today. Surely some celebrity said something mean about Trump or someone didn’t worship the flag right.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:12:30am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

FNC will find some random distraction for their viewers today. Surely some celebrity said something mean about Trump or someone didn’t worship the flag right.

Currently they are harping on John Kerry and Iran.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:12:42am

re: #172 Bubblehead II

I’m waiting for Faux News to try and amplify this load of shit. Currently they are just ignoring it.

I want to know exactly how he raised billions of dollars to rebuild Puerto Rico.
From who and where did those billions of dollars come?
Where is that money now and how specifically was that money used to rebuild Puerto Rico?

I’ll not hold my breath while I wait.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:16:41am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:17:58am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

People die, no big deal, not anyone’s fault, OBAMA HAS MURDERED MILLIONS OF ABORTED BABIES!

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:18:53am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Casualties don’t make a person look bad, so I have no reason to dispute these numbers,” House Speaker Paul Ryan told reporters when asked about Trump’s tweet blaming Dems for PR death toll. “It’s an isolated island that lost its infrastructure and power for a long time.”

— Ashley Killough (@KilloughCNN) September 13, 2018

As soon as I find my hammer I will commence hitting myself over the head for another hour.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:19:21am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:19:31am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

Paul Ryan: There’s no reason to dispute that 3,000 died in Puerto Rico, but those deaths are nobody’s fault, “it’s just what happened.”
— Daniel Dale

Nothing matters

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:20:10am

re: #179 Sir John Barron

“Casualties don’t make a person look bad…”

unless it’s Benghazi.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:20:30am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want to know exactly how he raised billions of dollars to rebuild Puerto Rico.
From who and where did those billions of dollars come?
Where is that money now and how specifically was that money used to rebuild Puerto Rico?

I’ll not hold my breath while I wait.

BILLIONS, OK? Billions. And it fixed all the things.
//

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Citizen K  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:20:51am

I nearly just fucking flipped my desk at work right now:

Sweet motherfucking christ, I hate Paul Ryan. And I know the rest of the GOP isn’t any better, judging by the lack of condemnation for Trump’s bullshit tweets either.

This was murder by neglect. And the media will simply act like these are somehow ‘judicious responses’ and any pushback will be labeled ‘uncivil’ and ‘politicizing the disaster’, because fuck everything.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:21:10am

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

unless it’s Benghazi.

WHO GAVE THE STAND-DOWN ORDER??!?!?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:21:26am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:22:08am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s an isolated Island, nobody can get there, really, it was just there to get the coffee, I hardly knew it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:24:19am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:24:52am

re: #184 Citizen K

I nearly just fucking flipped my desk at work right now:

Sweet motherfucking christ, I hate Paul Ryan. And I know the rest of the GOP isn’t any better, judging by the lack of condemnation for Trump’s bullshit tweets either.

This was murder by neglect. And the media will simply act like these are somehow ‘judicious responses’ and any pushback will be labeled ‘uncivil’ and ‘politicizing the disaster’, because fuck everything.

After the U.S. population drops by three-quarters after the next great Plague—

“Just casualties, nobody’s fault, things happened, it was an isolated continent. “

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:25:14am

re: #184 Citizen K

I nearly just fucking flipped my desk at work right now:

Sweet motherfucking christ, I hate Paul Ryan. And I know the rest of the GOP isn’t any better, judging by the lack of condemnation for Trump’s bullshit tweets either.

This was murder by neglect. And the media will simply act like these are somehow ‘judicious responses’ and any pushback will be labeled ‘uncivil’ and ‘politicizing the disaster’, because fuck everything.

Mistakes were made….

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:25:25am

Just a drive-by as I have to go do stuff, but if children’s program trains have no race, why the outrage over one’s with darker faces? Trains come from many places and are painted different colors, so what’s the big deal about adding them to the show? It’s not like they represent minorities, is it?

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:26:37am
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Citizen K  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:26:44am

re: #184 Citizen K

Hey, you know that thing I just said about taking him at face value?

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:29:47am

This funky Faithless song from 2004 still maintains its striking relevance to this day:

Faithless - Mass Destruction (Official Video)

With a long range weapon or suicide bomber
Wicked mind is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether your stowaway’s son or BBC 1
Dis-information is a weapon of mass destruction

You could a Caucasian or a poor Asian
Racism is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether inflation or globalization
Fear is a weapon of mass destruction

Whether Haliburton, Enron or anyone
Greed is a weapon of mass destruction

We need to find courage, overcome
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction
Inaction is a weapon of mass destruction

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Teukka  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:30:05am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:31:08am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want to know exactly how he raised billions of dollars to rebuild Puerto Rico.
From who and where did those billions of dollars come?
Where is that money now and how specifically was that money used to rebuild Puerto Rico?

I’ll not hold my breath while I wait.

If he actually raised ANY money, it was funneled through his foundation into his personal bank account.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:31:42am

So Cillizza is just figuring out now that Trump is a no good person?
cnn.com

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Teukka  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:32:53am

Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:33:49am

re: #197 Patricia Kayden

So Cillizza is just figuring out now that Trump is a no good person?
cnn.com

We told you Chris.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:34:21am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:35:30am

By November 2020, Obama will have been President during Hurricane Maria (and Florence), just as he was during Hurricane Katrina. You watch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:36:00am

moron has no shame at all

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:37:39am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron has no shame at all

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You cut their budget to feed your anti immigrant squad.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:37:54am

re: #191 calochortus

Just a drive-by as I have to go do stuff, but if children’s program trains have no race, why the outrage over one’s with darker faces? Trains come from many places and are painted different colors, so what’s the big deal about adding them to the show? It’s not like they represent minorities, is it?

Forget it, Cal. The ‘race realist’, culture warriors over at the National Rifle Association are playing eleventy-dimension chess on us.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:38:17am

Trump borrowing the Soviet Union’s playbook of disinformation, by denying the deaths of 3000 Puerto Ricans.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:38:56am

re: #37 Belafon

Good to see we still have idiots talking about that “lesser of two evils” in a time when Trump is literally destroying lives. If she can’t figure out who to vote for, she can sit dune and shut up. No one should have to convince anyone how crucially important it is to vote this November. Sigh.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:39:13am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron has no shame at all

Did the USCG remember to praise Orange Capitain?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:40:24am

re: #193 Citizen K

Hey, you know that thing I just said about taking him at face value?

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President takes issue with Declaration of Independence vote occurring in 1776.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:41:04am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:42:30am

re: #208 Sir John Barron

President takes issue with Declaration of Independence vote occurring in 1776.

Well, it was on the second of July….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:43:58am

Again, if Donald Trump had personally gone to Puerto Rico and shot down 3,000 people on the streets, he would be able to deny it and his people would support his claims.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:44:15am

Did Trump deny the 3000 deaths on his own or was there a Fox report that first made the allegation that the numbers were inflated by the Democrats?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:44:53am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:45:15am

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

Did Trump deny the 3000 deaths on his own or was there a Fox report that first made the allegation that the numbers were inflated by the Democrats?

I think he made the claim on his own.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:45:57am

re: #212 Hecuba’s daughter

Did Trump deny the 3000 deaths on his own or was there a Fox report that first made the allegation that the numbers were inflated by the Democrats?

He did it all on his own. Via Twitter of course.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:47:11am

The 8th stage of genocide - deny any deaths.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:47:12am

It’s not what he had in mind but in a sense Rick is right, since the sins of greed, sloth, gluttony etc. are the causes of climate change.

Facebook Post

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:47:29am

Our Trixie went back to the animal hospital this morning to remove her eye. While they were checking her over, the doctor noticed a couple of bad teeth, so after a consult with the dentist we’re going to have her teeth checked and the bad ones removed as well.

I’m a little nervous to have our little one going into surgery, but I’m hopeful due to the fact that we took one of our other cats there who was suffering from pancreatitis and after they worked on him he hung around for another twelve years. They know what they’re doing over there.

Spare a thought for our little cat today, Lizards. Thanks.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:48:46am

re: #217 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s not what he had in mind but in a sense Rick is right, since the sins of greed, sloth, gluttony etc. are the causes of climate change.

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Yep. But he thinks it was two guys fucking, unwed motherhood, and people saying Happy Holidays.

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Teukka  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:49:44am

re: #218 makeitstop

Our Trixie went back to the animal hospital this morning to remove her eye. While they were checking her over, the doctor noticed a couple of bad teeth, so after a consult with the dentist we’re going to have her teeth checked and the bad ones removed as well.

I’m a little nervous to have our little one going into surgery, but I’m hopeful due to the fact that we took one of our other cats there who was suffering from pancreatitis and after they worked on him he hung around for another twelve years. They know what they’re doing over there.

Spare a thought for our little cat today, Lizards. Thanks.

*good vibes in makeitstop’s cats direction*

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:50:34am
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:50:57am

This is a f*cking disgrace. Trump and his administration deserves to be on trial at the Hague.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:51:43am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

I think he made the claim on his own.

Fox News personalities now berating themselves for not leading this morning’s Faux & Fiends with Liberals Create 3,000 Death Toll in PR to Blame POTUS!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:52:39am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:53:00am

re: #218 makeitstop

Our Trixie went back to the animal hospital this morning to remove her eye. While they were checking her over, the doctor noticed a couple of bad teeth, so after a consult with the dentist we’re going to have her teeth checked and the bad ones removed as well.

I’m a little nervous to have our little one going into surgery, but I’m hopeful due to the fact that we took one of our other cats there who was suffering from pancreatitis and after they worked on him he hung around for another twelve years. They know what they’re doing over there.

Spare a thought for our little cat today, Lizards. Thanks.

Good luck, Trixie!

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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:54:51am

Here’s the thing that really pisses me off about the Puerto Rico/Hurricane Maria story and Trump’s latest stupidity…

It was a hurricane. We all knew it was coming. We knew it was going to be bad. We had time to be ready for it ahead of time… and they still managed to fuck it up in historically epic ways.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:55:14am

re: #218 makeitstop

crossed paws for Trixie

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:55:52am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:56:42am

re: #228 darthstar

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DeSanttis’ one ad was practically him blowing Trump.

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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:57:58am

re: #228 darthstar

BREAKING: Politicians Shocked to Discover that Appealing to Smaller and Smaller Segment of Voting Public Not the Best Strategy in a Democracy

Film at 11.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:58:28am

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s like Iraq war deaths.

Do we only count the people who died from bullets and explosions? Or do we also count the people who died from cholera because the water treatment plants were destroyed, and the people who died from appendicitis because the hospitals were non-functional, and the people who died from diabetes because there was no insulin (or refrigeration for those who had some) or heatstroke because there was no electricity for their A/C’s and fans.

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:58:32am

re: #229 HappyWarrior

DeSanttis’ one ad was practically him blowing Trump.

I think Trump’s denying the Puerto Rico death count is going to have a ripple effect across close races…he’s going to have a bunch of rallies where the person he’s there to support will have a scheduling conflict…like Ted Cruz.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:59:54am

re: #232 darthstar

I think Trump’s denying the Puerto Rico death count is going to have a ripple effect across close races…he’s going to have a bunch of rallies where the person he’s there to support will have a scheduling conflict…like Ted Cruz.

“Look, I like people who don’t die in hurricanes, OK?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:00:04am

re: #232 darthstar

I think Trump’s denying the Puerto Rico death count is going to have a ripple effect across close races…he’s going to have a bunch of rallies where the person he’s there to support will have a scheduling conflict…like Ted Cruz.

We can only hope. Wexton’s campaign here is running on the fact that Comstock votes in agreement with the Trump administration 97.5% of the time. This in a district that soundly rejected him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:00:34am

re: #233 Sir John Barron

“Look, I like people who don’t die in hurricanes, OK?

I had the greatest hurricane so I win!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:02:03am

re: #230 KGxvi

BREAKING: Politicians Shocked to Discovery that Appealing to Smaller and Smaller Segment of Voting Public Not the Best Strategy in a Democracy

Film at 11.

It is if you can motivate these people to get out and vote while suppressing the other voters.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:04:10am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

We told you Chris.

Not thrilled with Van Jones either. “Today he became president” because he could read a teleprompter speech that used full sentences and he pronounced almost all the words correctly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:04:21am
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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:05:56am
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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:05:57am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is if you can motivate these people to get out and vote while suppressing the other voters.

At some point, and we might have reached it, there’s diminishing returns. That’s especially true when you become so odious that you actually generate enthusiasm on the other side.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:06:19am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Bombing the storm” is an idea he got from Sharknado.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:07:02am

I was hoping for some sanity today, then I check the headlines and see President Fucknuts pissing all over the graves of 3000 Puerto Ricans. Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:08:21am

re: #239 gocart mozart

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I agree with Dr. Funke.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:10:45am

re: #167 makeitstop

We were at the animal hospital when CNN reported this. Of all the fucked up, stupid and dangerous things this rotten sob of a bitch has done, this one made me want to just start smashing things.

There better be a lot of pushback on this. Make that motherfucker own those deaths. He is responsible.

Twitter needs to just ban him. He’s a menace to us and allowing the whole world to see just how deranged he is hour after hour, every single day is definitely a matter of national security. Come on @jack, you going to sit back while he tweets the nuclear codes too?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:14:02am

re: #216 DodgerFan1988

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The 8th stage of genocide - deny any deaths.

Given how many Puerto Ricans relocated to Florida in the aftermath of FEMA’s “underappreciated” response, Trump’s tweets might be turning Florida blue…ask every person running for major office—Scott, Desantis, etc., whether they will condemn Trump’s tweets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:15:01am

re: #240 KGxvi

At some point, and we might have reached it, there’s diminishing returns. That’s especially true when you become so odious that you actually generate enthusiasm on the other side.

There is still a lot of long-term damage they can do before the tide turns on them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:15:03am
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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:16:39am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

I want to know exactly how he raised billions of dollars to rebuild Puerto Rico.
From who and where did those billions of dollars come?
Where is that money now and how specifically was that money used to rebuild Puerto Rico?

I’ll not hold my breath while I wait.

He leased it to the Russians to do nerve gas testing?

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:19:03am

Just now… waves crashing over the pier at Wrightsville, so some guy decides to take a walk on the beach:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:19:38am

re: #247 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Which is why she’s been around for a long time. Oh and your father isn’t a good father, businessman, or president.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:22:28am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:22:39am

re: #249 freetoken

Just now… waves crashing over the pier at Wrightsville, so some guy decides to take a walk on the beach:

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We’re going to have thousands of people drowning themselves to own the libs. And when it’s all over, the libs will be to blame.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:24:44am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:24:54am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Only retroactively of course.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:25:41am

re: #253 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Inaccessible?? Puerto Rico isn’t your tax records.

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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:25:46am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

So now, to be free and safe, you have to have a gun on you at all times, including when you’re sitting/sleeping on the couch while watching a movie in your own home.

Fuck all of this.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:26:15am

re: #249 freetoken

Just now… waves crashing over the pier at Wrightsville, so some guy decides to take a walk on the beach:

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Why not go out on the pier? I bet the view is great at the end.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:29:30am

re: #256 KGxvi

So now, to be free and safe, you have to have a gun on you at all times, including when you’re sitting/sleeping on the couch while watching a movie in your own home.

Fuck all of this.

That is the future gun nuts want.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:29:48am

re: #256 KGxvi

So now, to be free and safe, you have to have a gun on you at all times, including when you’re sitting/sleeping on the couch while watching a movie in your own home.

Fuck all of this.

Just set up an automated gun turret in the hall, and relax.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:32:10am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:33:36am

We can expect Faux and Fiends, if not Trump himself, to be discussing this obscure (and now suspended) British student organization.

Gulags were ‘compassionate’, ‘educational’ institutions, say trans rights campaigners

Students at a leading London university have been condemned as blind to reality after defending the system of Soviet Gulag labour camps where thousands perished as “compassionate” places of rehabilitation.

Trans rights campaigners at Goldsmiths University described the Gulags as benign places where inmates received education, training and enjoyed the opportunity to take part in clubs, sports and theatre groups.

In fact most historians agree they were a brutal network of labour camps used by Stalin’s Soviet dictatorship to incarcerate internal opponents and so-called “enemies of the state”, resulting in the death of more than an estimated 1.05 million people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:36:09am

re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

We can expect Faux and Fiends, if not Trump himself, to be discussing this obscure (and now suspended) British student organization.

Gulags were ‘compassionate’, ‘educational’ institutions, say trans rights campaigners

So that’s what Fox goes on the day Trump denies 3000 people died in PR. These students are ignorant but no more than Trump and the people FNC has on to claim same sex marriage being legal is like Nazism.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:36:23am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FREE THE POOR, FRAMED, TOURISTY RUSSIANS! Don’t shake their hands though.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:37:04am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:38:01am

re: #256 KGxvi

So now, to be free and safe, you have to have a gun on you at all times, including when you’re sitting/sleeping on the couch while watching a movie in your own home.

Fuck all of this.

I’m gonna have that automated motion tracking weapon system from Aliens watching my front door.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:42:09am

re: #148 ipsos

Lawhawk, what’s your take on the state AG race? All of the candidates seem to have pretty good strengths. I’m partial to the argument the NYT made (in endorsing Zephyr Teachout) that Maloney is better served by staying in Congress, and that Teachout’s independence will matter a lot in the AG role. I wish we could keep our current interim AG, Barbara Underwood. She’s fantastic - but she got the appointment to replace Eric Schneiderman based on a promise she wouldn’t run to keep the seat.

I think any of the AG candidates would do a good job, and that’s been the springboard to the governorship (albeit two of last three guys to think of pursuing that route have flamed out - Spitzer and Schneiderman. Cuomo was also AG, and he’s had plenty of scandal too).

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:43:01am

Unfuckingbelievable

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:43:15am

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:43:40am

re: #156 Interesting Times

The state has an antiquated system, and it suppresses votes too. That’s part of a bigger set of problems with the state and its legislature. They continue to treat it as a part time gig, when it opens door to rampant corruption.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:44:12am
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electrotek  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:45:44am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:47:22am

re: #271 electrotek

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Where is this world going? Sigh

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electrotek  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:48:31am

I don’t have Twitter any more so can someone reply to her tweet and ask her who the “Mommy Blogger” in question is?

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:52:13am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:54:00am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

He took $29 million from the Coast Guard to support his racist policy against Brown migrants and has the nerve to praise the Coast Guard. Arghh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:55:02am

re: #274 lawhawk

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Spoken like a true coward. Way to go Paul. Maybe if he had said tax cuts weren’t all that, you’d actually act like a human being here.

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plansbandc  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:00:40am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Over to pure hate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:01:01am
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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:02:42am

Didn’t someone here create that Trump image? Or am I mistaken?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:02:58am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

The GOP has enough power in NY to fuck with elections like that?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:04:01am

re: #279 lawhawk

Naked in a fountain in China sounds like a great album title.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:04:41am

re: #279 lawhawk

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Didn’t someone here create that Trump image? Or am I mistaken?

Don’t think so. It was on a Twitter feed where the guy supplied at transparent PNG file and plenty of people joined in.

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:05:30am

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP has enough power in NY to fuck with elections like that?

Nope.

The problem here is that local boards of election are too aggressive in purging voter rolls of people who haven’t voted or cross referencing names that appear multiple times.

This happened in NYC in 2016, where Brooklyn voters had these kinds of issues too. The state still hasn’t properly addressed the problem.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:05:35am

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP has enough power in NY to fuck with elections like that?

They might be able to in the upstate region.

We voted this morning, my wife had no problem. But we’re on Long Island.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:09:10am

Looks like Rick Scott is catching some flack from the usual suspects for calling out tRumps lie this morning.

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ipsos  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:10:14am

re: #284 makeitstop

They might be able to in the upstate region.

We voted this morning, my wife had no problem. But we’re on Long Island.

No issues in the Rochester suburbs either. Didn’t feel great about any of my choices (except maybe AG), but I did my civic doody.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:11:00am

re: #283 lawhawk

Nope.

The problem here is that local boards of election are too aggressive in purging voter rolls of people who haven’t voted or cross referencing names that appear multiple times.

This happened in NYC in 2016, where Brooklyn voters had these kinds of issues too. The state still hasn’t properly addressed the problem.

I believe Illinois continues its tradition of never purging voter rolls.

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:11:26am

Ooof:

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:11:44am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Florida Republicans all of a sudden realizing that displaced Ricans who moved to Florida are going to resent Trump’s lies.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:12:46am

re: #283 lawhawk

This happened in NYC in 2016, where Brooklyn voters had these kinds of issues too. The state still hasn’t properly addressed the problem.

Ah, yes, where the primary was stolen from Bernie.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:13:14am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Looks like Rick Scott is catching some flack from the usual suspects for calling out tRumps lie this morning.

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Good. Maybe they’ll sit out the election and the Democratic candidate will win.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:14:03am

re: #48 Single-handed sailor

Now I’m really in love with her. She sings Blind Faith - Can’t Find My Way Home.

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Video

one of the most beautiful songs of all time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:15:08am

re: #289 freetoken

Florida Republicans all of a sudden realizing that displaced Ricans who moved to Florida are going to resent Trump’s lies.

Are they actually registering to vote? They may hate Trump but do they have a permanent residence and records to prove citizenship?

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:15:35am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

Ricans are US citizens.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:16:06am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Looks like Rick Scott is catching some flack from the usual suspects for calling out tRumps lie this morning.

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It’s not a matter of disagreeing. You disagree over issues not independent verification of lost life. Besides he’ll walk it back when his base yells at him for not standing by Trump.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:16:13am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Looks like Rick Scott is catching some flack from the usual suspects for calling out tRumps lie this morning.

Sure glad our dumpster fire of a potus doesn’t have a truth-deprived deranged cult following.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:16:33am
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:17:11am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:17:18am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

Are they actually registering to vote? They may hate Trump but do they have a permanent residence and records to prove citizenship?

They’re citizens. If they have residency established, they can and will vote.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:17:19am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

Looks like Rick Scott is catching some flack from the usual suspects for calling out tRumps lie this morning.

There is no truth, only Zog.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:18:30am

re: #297 gocart mozart

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Cool! I, too, bought a Kangol from Meyer, back in 2000. Still have it.

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Jay C  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:18:55am

re: #285 Bubblehead II

re: #289 freetoken

I’m guessing that, despite some blowback from the MAGAts, Scott and DeSantis - well, any Florida politician, really - have figured out that there’s no upside to any perceived disparagement of Federal disaster responses. It’s Florida, that they’re likely to be next in line for a hurricane in the foreseeable future is pretty much a given. Promising FL citizens to do better than Trump ( low bar, etc.) in case of a bad storm is a no-brainer…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:20:30am

re: #294 freetoken

Ricans are US citizens.

I know they are citizens but given the propensity in Republican states to require additional paperwork to prove your status, do the displaced Puerto Ricans have records to establish they were actually born in the Puerto Rico?

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:20:38am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

Are they actually registering to vote? They may hate Trump but do they have a permanent residence and records to prove citizenship?

A lot of them have been in Florida for a year, more than enough time to have a permanent residence and register to vote.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:22:09am

re: #291 Patricia Kayden

Good. Maybe they’ll sit out the election and the Democratic candidate will win.

Some are making that exact threat.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:22:30am

re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter

Don’t know about Florida registration forms.

Here in California I just had to fill out a form with my current address.

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:23:26am

re: #305 Bubblehead II

Some are making that exact threat.

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This is one time I hope the troll is a real person as opposed to a bot.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:26:49am

Hmmm…

A constituent letter to Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-CA), which she has shared with Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) having something to do with Brett Kavanaugh has been referred to the FBI, Buzzfeed reports.

The existence of the letter has been rumored around Capitol Hill for the past week, and was confirmed in an Intercept story on Wednesday. When asked about the letter on Thursday, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) told Buzzfeed “This matter has been referred to the FBI for investigation.” Buzzfied reports that they contacted the woman “believed to be the subject of the letter at her home last week,” but she declined to comment. She is reportedly being represented by attorney Debra Katz, who has also declined comment. Buzzfeed reports she was seen on Capitol Hill Wednesday evening.

Feinstein confirmed to Buzzfeed that she has referred the letter to “federal investigative authorities.” She confirmed, “I have received information from an individual concerning the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. […] That individual strongly requested confidentiality, declined to come forward or press the matter further, and I have honored that decision. I have, however, referred the matter to federal investigative authorities.”

The contents of the letter are indeed hazy, but the referral to the FBI suggests they are significant and troubling. The FBI isn’t commenting at the moment, nor is the White House. Kavanaugh certainly isn’t. But it’s not a bad time to review the pretty bad record Kavanaugh has made for himself on issues of harassment and discrimination. He has been decidedly, determinedly, and openly hostile to the nation’s laws intended to provide workplace protections and equal opportunity to everyone who isn’t male and white and not disabled. In twelve years on the bench, he has “weighed in on about two dozen job discrimination cases, including lawsuits brought under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act. His legal decisions dismissed workers’ claims in the vast majority of those cases.”

Whether that disdain in his professional career extended into his personal conduct hasn’t been an issue. It might not be now, but this doesn’t sound good.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:27:35am

re: #306 freetoken

Don’t know about Florida registration forms.

Here in California I just had to fill out a form with my current address.

Blue states are different — in general, they make it easy to establish the right to vote. But red states tend to impose obstacles, especially on minorities.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:31:09am

re: #308 Belafon

Hmmm…
……………………….
But it’s not a bad time to review the pretty bad record Kavanaugh has made for himself on issues of harassment and discrimination. He has been decidedly, determinedly, and openly hostile to the nation’s laws intended to provide workplace protections and equal opportunity to everyone who isn’t male and white and not disabled. In twelve years on the bench, he has “weighed in on about two dozen job discrimination cases, including lawsuits brought under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act. His legal decisions dismissed workers’ claims in the vast majority of those cases.”

Whether that disdain in his professional career extended into his personal conduct hasn’t been an issue. It might not be now, but this doesn’t sound good.

Anything that might stop him would serve the public good. Unfortunately it might also encourage MAGAts to get out to vote in the November election.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:31:19am

re: #305 Bubblehead II

Some are making that exact threat.

you dont help yourself disagreeing with maga - tell him offline. only reason you have my vote is nelson is a bigger crook but you piss us off enough we wont vote at all like with mccain. two bad choices is no choice at all. i ONLY want YOU in to support MAGA ! If u cant no vote

that’s some probing, deep and carefully considered political thought right there

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:32:08am

From Topsail Beach NC. Storm surge already causing significant damage:

And that’s actually how that home appears to have been built - the first floor is not supposed to be inhabited space, but rather allow storm surge to flow under without causing damage to the habitable space above. The problem is that many homeowners turned those spaces into living units or store stuff there, or they are built at ground level. This is going to be real bad.

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plansbandc  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:34:12am

Look at this little fellow!

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:34:42am

re: #292 MsJ

one of the most beautiful songs of all time.

four really nice versions:

winwood’s, of course
clapton, ec was here
joe cocker, night calls
widespread panic, uber cobra

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:38:05am

re: #312 lawhawk

From Topsail Beach NC. Storm surge already causing significant damage:

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And that’s actually how that home appears to have been built - the first floor is not supposed to be inhabited space, but rather allow storm surge to flow under without causing damage to the habitable space above. The problem is that many homeowners turned those spaces into living units or store stuff there, or they are built at ground level. This is going to be real bad.

Lot of those barrier islands are going to be smashed. I have no idea why the hell development is still allowed.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:38:05am

re: #311 dangerman

that’s some probing, deep and carefully considered political thought right there

No cult notta cult your the cult

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:38:50am

re: #311 dangerman

that’s some probing, deep and carefully considered political thought right there

Pretty sure this isn’t what Madison et al imagined in 1787 but here we are

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:39:43am

re: #316 Sir John Barron

No cult notta cult your the cult

thanks for the translation
i refuse to learn wingnut

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Alephnaught  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:39:57am

Sanity (?) Break:

Yes, “Unicorn Poo”: like a Pez dispenser, execpt it’s a unicorn, and dispenses sweets out of it’s bumhole. Appropriately enough, like dog poo, this was left lying on the pavement in my local street.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:40:04am

Conservative country music fans lose their minds over Willie Nelson headlining Beto O’Rourke rally

Some facebook comments on Willie’s announcement page:

David R. Williams Goodbye Willie, I don’t support socialist commies! You’re not going to advertise on my FB page either. Like we say in Texas, Now Git!

and

Melanie Philip Good bye Willie…you are not on the right side.. take a look around you and do the right thing…I always thought you were a patriot…wow what a let down. You would pick a socialist agenda and an Anti American fellow like BETO, shame on you.

and

Alan Huey Willie use to be someone I looked up to….now he is just another John McCain with bitter hate and venomous garbage in his heart ….to bad …should have stuck to singing and smoking alittle weed

There’s more in the link.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:40:32am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

Are they actually registering to vote? They may hate Trump but do they have a permanent residence and records to prove citizenship?

There are enough of them that the courts have ruled that Florida must provide Spanish sample ballots at the polls, laid out as close as possible to the actual ballots. So displace Puerto Ricans can vote.
Judge to require 32 Florida counties to provide Spanish sample ballots

“… In a ruling, Judge Mark Walker wrote, “Voting in a language you do not understand is like asking this Court decide the winner of the Nobel Prize for Chemistry… Ineffective, in other words.”

Under the ruling, the counties, which include Leon County, will need to provide and publish sample ballots in Spanish. They’ll also need to provide translation ballots at polling sites and post signs at each precinct directing Spanish voters to where they can go for help. …”

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:42:11am
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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:43:16am

re: #315 Scottish Dragon

Lot of those barrier islands are going to be smashed. I have no idea why the hell development is still allowed.

The allure of the sea. It’s beautiful along the coast, right until the next hurricane or Nor’easter rearranges the coastline like the finger of god.

Barrier islands should be turned into preserves and new construction denied. After storms, rebuilding should not be allowed - but owners compensated for cost to relocate inland.

Of course, that’s all easier said than done, especially in places like NYC metro, where millions of people are on the flood plain.

But we can do better to make it safer for those who live here by requiring stronger building codes, better infrastructure, and wetlands protection to reduce flooding inland.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:48:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:49:14am

Llre: #320 Belafon

Conservative country music fans lose their minds over Willie Nelson headlining Beto O’Rourke rally

Some facebook comments on Willie’s announcement page:

and

and

There’s more in the link.

Willie has always been a liberal. Sucks they missed that.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:50:09am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Ll

Willie has always been a liberal. Sucks they missed that.

It’s one thing to advocate for legal weed, biofuels, and farmers. It’s totally another thing to advocate for equality. //

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:51:42am

re: #314 dangerman

four really nice versions:

winwood’s, of course
clapton, ec was here
joe cocker, night calls
widespread panic, uber cobra

I’d add Ellen McIlwaine’s version from her album Honky Tonk Angel

Can’t Find My Way Home

I always liked that version. Ellen’s got a nice, funky approach to the song.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:51:46am

re: #323 lawhawk

The allure of the sea. It’s beautiful along the coast, right until the next hurricane or Nor’easter rearranges the coastline like the finger of god.

Barrier islands should be turned into preserves and new construction denied. After storms, rebuilding should not be allowed - but owners compensated for cost to relocate inland.

Of course, that’s all easier said than done, especially in places like NYC metro, where millions of people are on the flood plain.

But we can do better to make it safer for those who live here by requiring stronger building codes, better infrastructure, and wetlands protection to reduce flooding inland.

The NC barrier islands (OBX) are a huge part of the North Carolina economy. No way that the state would ever shut down the sweet almighty dollar; even if there are preservation movements that are in place there.

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:51:57am

re: #324 gocart mozart

Sadly, we all know how sexual harassment failed to derail the nomination of Clarence “pubic hair in coke” Thomas, and that was with Anita Hill bravely choosing to go public. As long as this allegation remains confidential, feckless frauds like Collins have all the butt-covering willful blindness they need.

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Alephnaught  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:54:36am

re: #320 Belafon

Conservative country music fans lose their minds over Willie Nelson headlining Beto O’Rourke rally

I’m Glasgow born and bred, and even I know Willie Nelson is not right-wing by any stretch of the imagination. What rock have these folks been living under?

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lawhawk  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:55:29am

re: #328 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Oh, I know that this is the case all around the nation. We have the same thing here. And we keep pushing for more coastal development, despite the sea level rise and stronger storms on the horizon and more frequent storms coming and we keep doing the same things repeatedly.

We’ll watch the Outer Banks get slammed, spend billions in rebuilding, and then watch them get hammered again and again. Each time, we have the same argument. And each time, they rebuild despite the fact it will get hammered again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:56:39am

re: #326 Belafon

It’s one thing to advocate for legal weed, biofuels, and farmers. It’s totally another thing to advocate for equality. //

The cool thing is Beto is perhaps one of the best running when it comes to the weed issue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:57:57am

Kavanaugh looks worse and worse which of course means McConnell will rush the confirmation vote.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:58:27am

re: #329 Interesting Times

Sadly, we all know how sexual harassment failed to derail the nomination of Clarence “pubic hair in coke” Thomas, and that was with Anita Hill bravely choosing to go public. As long as this allegation remains confidential, feckless frauds like Collins have all the butt-covering willful blindness they need.

I think they wen’t to the FBI first in order to verify whatever it is. We definitely wouldn’t want it to come out that it hadn’t happened after the Democrats talk about it. That woud pretty much put an end to the hearings.

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ipsos  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:58:59am

I love mrs. ipsos to death, don’t get me wrong.

But while she’s usually politically engaged, sometimes things escape her.

To wit: we had a conversation about the Texas senate race last night wherein she somehow sincerely believed that the good guy running against the Zodiac killer is named…

“Jared Beto”

?!?!?!?!?!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:02:13am

re: #335 ipsos

I love mrs. ipsos to death, don’t get me wrong.

But while she’s usually politically engaged, sometimes things escape her.

To wit: we had a conversation about the Texas senate race last night wherein she somehow sincerely believed that the good guy running against the Zodiac killer is named…

“Jared Beto”

?!?!?!?!?!

How did she get Jared? Thinking Beto was his surname I get but hey at least she cares.

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CongoJack  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:04:21am

re: #335 ipsos

I love mrs. ipsos to death, don’t get me wrong.

But while she’s usually politically engaged, sometimes things escape her.

To wit: we had a conversation about the Texas senate race last night wherein she somehow sincerely believed that the good guy running against the Zodiac killer is named…

“Jared Beto”

?!?!?!?!?!

Thinking of Jared Leto I assume.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:04:26am

re: #331 lawhawk

Oh, I know that this is the case all around the nation. We have the same thing here. And we keep pushing for more coastal development, despite the sea level rise and stronger storms on the horizon and more frequent storms coming and we keep doing the same things repeatedly.

We’ll watch the Outer Banks get slammed, spend billions in rebuilding, and then watch them get hammered again and again. Each time, we have the same argument. And each time, they rebuild despite the fact it will get hammered again.

I don’t want a beach house.
I want a frriend with a beach house

Ditto for a boat

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:05:33am

re: #320 Belafon

Conservative country music fans lose their minds over Willie Nelson headlining Beto O’Rourke rally

Wait. They were Willie fans and they didn’t know he was a liberal?

His friendships with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton didn’t prove that?

Damn. They really are fucking clueless.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:05:58am

re: #329 Interesting Times

Sadly, we all know how sexual harassment failed to derail the nomination of Clarence “pubic hair in coke” Thomas, and that was with Anita Hill bravely choosing to go public. As long as this allegation remains confidential, feckless frauds like Collins have all the butt-covering willful blindness they need.

Thomas was a different time — before #MeToo, before Bill Cosby, before Trump. There were only 2 women Senators then; now there are 23. The outcome may not be the same.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:05:59am

re: #335 ipsos

I love mrs. ipsos to death, don’t get me wrong.

But while she’s usually politically engaged, sometimes things escape her.

To wit: we had a conversation about the Texas senate race last night wherein she somehow sincerely believed that the good guy running against the Zodiac killer is named…

“Jared Beto”

?!?!?!?!?!

Give her a subscription to lgf

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:06:14am

” On May 31, a strange story aired on the nightly news in Tucson, Arizona. KOLD News 13 reporter Kevin Adger told viewers that a local veterans’ rights activist named Lewis Arthur had made a horrific discovery in the bushes beside a frontage road: a bunker used as a stopover by child sex traffickers. The reporter pointed out children’s clothes, an old toilet seat and a septic tank where Arthur claimed kids had been held against their will.

Arthur had stumbled across the camp while canvassing the area for homeless vets. He posted an outraged rant on Facebook and started getting comments — a lot of them. When he posted videos arguing that there were probably bodies buried at the camp and that it was part of a network of Arizona sex trafficking sites, he topped 680,000 views in days.

There was just one problem with Arthur’s story: It wasn’t true. Tucson police and sheriff’s deputies both investigated the site and found nothing more than a former homeless camp — no evidence of sex trafficking. Arthur then claimed he and two friends had found proof: a child’s skull. Officers sent the skull to the Pima County medical examiner, who concluded that it had belonged to an adult and been found miles away from the homeless camp.

The Arizona Daily Star and other local news outlets published stories debunking the claims. In a pre-internet world, the whole thing might have ended there, without any more newspaper ink or the involvement of the FBI. But in 2018 — at a time when social media, a conspiracy-minded president, and the erosion of trust in public institutions are providing fertile ground for wild-eyed theories — the story kept gaining life. …”

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Interesting Times  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:06:18am

We should have thought of this line:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:08:03am

re: #343 Interesting Times

We should have thought of this line:

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Damnit Frum. But yes indeed.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:08:05am
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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:12:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:14:43am

not a fan of either, but this will be a bloodbath, I think…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:17:24am
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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:18:41am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

not a fan of either, but this will be a bloodbath, I think…

That ought to be a hoot.

As for Avenetti running for office, I figure everyone that runs has to have a certain amount of ego. Now, what I would ask him is this: If you lose the nomination, are you going to throw a fit or back the Democratic candidate?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:19:19am

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

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God I hope they win and become citizens and play a big role in destroying Trump and his movement.

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ipsos  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:20:49am

re: #341 dangerman

Give her a subscription to lgf

Bad enough *I* spend all day lurking here and occasionally being snarky. If we both had subscriptions, neither one of us would EVER get anything done! :o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:21:45am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:21:54am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

not a fan of either, but this will be a bloodbath, I think…

I think I’ll pass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:22:34am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:25:20am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is how it all ends, isn’t it?

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:27:58am

re: #355 Sir John Barron

This is how it all ends, isn’t it?

Probably, if it hadn’t ended back in 1938 with the broadcast of War of the Worlds.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:29:42am

re: #339 makeitstop

Wait. They were Willie fans and they didn’t know he was a liberal?

His friendships with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton didn’t prove that?

Damn. They really are fucking clueless.

He’s also close to Snoop Dog.

I bet we can guess what’s the foundation of *that* friendship.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:31:22am

re: #357 sagehen

He’s also close to Snoop Dog.

I bet we can guess what’s the foundation of *that* friendship.

Wasn’t there a story that he smoked a joint on the White House roof at Carter’s inauguration?

Or was it Clinton’s? Can’t remember…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:31:23am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

You’re in MENSA, James and you don’t know that the first amendment is precisely about the government. Oh and I didn’t see you rallying behind the Dixie Chicks who were far more relevant than Norm McDonald is getting blacklisted by Nashville for saying something far more mild than McDonald did. God, you conservatives are hopelessly stupid in how little you understand the Constitution.

James Woods is not actually in Mensa. He claims he is. (He also claims his IQ is high enough to be in Triple Nine.)

The claim came in 2013.

How Fake Celebrity Geniuses Fooled the Internet (Daily Edge, June 10, 2013, more at the link)

In a press release on June 6 - before the Mail and Yahoo stories were published - the organisation refuted all the stories, saying:

Mensa International has NOT issued a list of celebrity members recently […] Mensa International […] would like it to be known that it does not issue lists of Mensa members to the Press or outside Mensa, nor disclose individual IQ scores to anyone.

It added:

Attempts are being made by Mensa to discover the source of these stories and to have false claims removed.

So the stories, it seems, are all completely false. Ahem.

Strangely enough, they’re all still live. The Huffington Post is the only one to have acknowledged the (apparent) fake - with an update noting that Mensa is “denying” issuing a list, but left the headline intact and body of the piece intact.

The source for all the stories appears to be this story from June 1 on Sinembargo, a Mexican online news site. Bizarrely, Sinembargo quotes its own source as Notimex, Mexico’s official state news agency.

Four Celebs Who Belong to Mensa (and Two Who Don’t) Neotarama, more at the link):

I originally listed James Woods as a member of Mensa, and although multiple sources corroborated this fact, the Mensa Director of Operations contacted Alex to say that they have no evidence of it. They’ve tried to contact Woods to see what the deal is, but neither Woods nor his publicist have responded. So there you have it! And now we have proof that Neatorama has some very intelligent readers (we already knew that, though). We all know them - the celebrities who are certainly pretty to look at but would probably be better off keeping their mouths shut lest they expose their stupidity.

Mensa doesn’t create lists of its members for general distribution: The whole worldwide organisation would descend on them in protest of violations of privacy. Individuals can state they are members, but for a long time now Mensa has not released scores to prospects (only a letter stating whether your score was qualifying or not) after the American Psychology Association objected (for reasons that undermine the APA).

If you joined Mensa a long time ago (back in the Eighties or earlier), your letter from Mensa gives the name of the test and the score. Afterwards, only the name of the test and qualified/not qualified.

Since Mr. Woods claims membership, he could produce the letter. If he doesn’t have it, he could write Mensa and ask for another copy. Since he never has, well either he or his publicist is lying (that and he doesn’t appear on Mensa’s membership rolls, which are available to members).

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:34:24am

re: #359 Anymouse 🌹

If you joined Mensa a long time ago (back in the Eighties or earlier), your letter from Mensa gives the name of the test and the score. Afterwards, only the name of the test and qualified/not qualified.

Since Mr. Woods claims membership, he could produce the letter. If he doesn’t have it, he could write Mensa and ask for another copy. Since he never has, well either he or his publicist is lying (that and he doesn’t appear on Mensa’s membership rolls, which are available to members).

When I joined in the early 80’s, I didn’t have to take their test — they accepted my SAT’s as proof enough.

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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:37:45am

re: #357 sagehen

He’s also close to Snoop Dog.

I bet we can guess what’s the foundation of *that* friendship.

ahem…

Willie Nelson Snoop Dogg Kris Kristofferson Jamey Johnson - Roll Me Up

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:39:35am

re: #327 makeitstop

I’d add Ellen McIlwaine’s version from her album Honky Tonk Angel

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I always liked that version. Ellen’s got a nice, funky approach to the song.

real nice
adding to my list

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KGxvi  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:40:27am

re: #345 gocart mozart

Oh, different Morgan Freeman… I was going to say reading that in Morgan Freeman’s voice was weird.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:40:27am

re: #358 makeitstop

Wasn’t there a story that he smoked a joint on the White House roof at Carter’s inauguration?

Or was it Clinton’s? Can’t remember…

my guess is he doesnt remember either

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:41:13am

Hey, remember yesterday when the go-to twitter troll was to blame the PR emergency management agency for the failure to distribute the water?
Yeah, it wasn’t them

I mean, who could have known that putting clear plastic bottles in the tropical sun, so as not to incur the cost of shipping container rentals, wasn’t the best idea?
//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:48:53am

re: #359 Anymouse 🌹

James Woods is not actually in Mensa. He claims he is. (He also claims his IQ is high enough to be in Triple Nine.)

The claim came in 2013.

How Fake Celebrity Geniuses Fooled the Internet (Daily Edge, June 10, 2013, more at the link)

Four Celebs Who Belong to Mensa (and Two Who Don’t) Neotarama, more at the link):

Mensa doesn’t create lists of its members for general distribution: The whole worldwide organisation would descend on them in protest of violations of privacy. Individuals can state they are members, but for a long time now Mensa has not released scores to prospects (only a letter stating whether your score was qualifying or not) after the American Psychology Association objected (for reasons that undermine the APA).

If you joined Mensa a long time ago (back in the Eighties or earlier), your letter from Mensa gives the name of the test and the score. Afterwards, only the name of the test and qualified/not qualified.

Since Mr. Woods claims membership, he could produce the letter. If he doesn’t have it, he could write Mensa and ask for another copy. Since he never has, well either he or his publicist is lying (that and he doesn’t appear on Mensa’s membership rolls, which are available to members).

Thanks AM. Didn’t know.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:49:32am

re: #365 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hey, remember yesterday when the go-to twitter troll was to blame the PR emergency management agency for the failure to distribute the water?
Yeah, it wasn’t them

I mean, who could have known that putting clear plastic bottles in the tropical sun, so as not to incur the cost of shipping container rentals, wasn’t the best idea?
//

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Oh but we needs the Soviet style parade.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:50:48am

re: #307 Interesting Times

This is one time I hope the troll is a real person as opposed to a bot.

Can bots mimic Yokel now?

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darthstar  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:51:14am

re: #361 KGxvi

ahem…

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The video of Beto playing with Willie includes the song Roll Me Up and Smoke Me When I Die.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:57:00am

re: #320 Belafon

Conservative country music fans lose their minds over Willie Nelson headlining Beto O’Rourke rally

Some facebook comments on Willie’s announcement page:

and

and

There’s more in the link.

Sure glad we have true patriot Americans like Willie Nelson to sing along to and oh what the eff hey Willie why don’t you just shut up and sing don’t bother me with your politics.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 12:28:10pm

re: #218 makeitstop

[[MakeItStop and cat]]

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John Hughes  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:51:52am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What? Reddit is violating peoples 1st Amendment rights now too?

//

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r/GreatAwakening violated my 1st Amendment rights by banning me //

(They banned me because I revealed the truth — QAnon is a massive trolling operation, designed to expose the insanity of the believers)

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John Hughes  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:17:04am

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

re: #76 Dr Lizardo

I posted that last night before I went to bed; apparently, the Reddit admins banned at least 19 QAnon-related subreddits. Inciting violence, doxxing, etc., were the reasons the “Q”ultists were given the boot.

I wonder if the repeated poorly veiled antisemitism had anything to do with it?

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John Hughes  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:40:29am

re: #149 Big Beautiful Door

What’s wrong with American police forces is that they do not accept the Peelian Pricipals as their founding idea. That makes them a Gendarmerie rather than a police force. (Hence the use of the word “civilians” to refer to non-police).


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