The Bob Cesca Show: Duty Station

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Duty Station — NSFW; Jody Hamilton from the Stephanie Miller Show is here; Woodward chapter describes Trump as stubbornly ignorant; Jesus, I told him a lot; Trump insists 3,000 Americans didn’t die in Puerto Rico; Paul Ryan’s spineless response; Trump gives himself an A plus for his response to Puerto Rico; Tremendously Big and Tremendously Wet; Americans are too dumb to live; The rehab of George W Bush is over; The frustrating Chris Hayes panel in Michigan; Trump and Manafort and their mutual defense agreement; Manafort negotiating a plea deal; Ken Starr’s take; Letter about Kavanaugh turned over to the FBI; and so much more.

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265 comments
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:35:12pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:38:31pm

Turns out that giving a lot more money back to people who have a lot of money makes things rise that people who have a lot of money care about. But it doesn’t do a hell of a lot for people without a lot of money.

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wrenchwench  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:39:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:39:44pm

re: #2 Blind Frog Belly White

Turns out that giving a lot more money back to people who have a lot of money makes things rise that people who have a lot of money care about. But it doesn’t do a hell of a lot for people without a lot of money.

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It’s the economy, stupid.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:40:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:40:47pm

re: #3 wrenchwench

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I cannot believe Willie’s conservative fans(can’t believe he has much at all TBH) were shocked by his Beto endorsement. Hell Beto’s even particularly good on one of Willie’s favorite issues lol. Beto’s opponent meanwhile probably wishes he could ban women in jeans.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:41:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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I regret even kind of grudgingly giving Dobbs credit for criticizing Bush. It’s obvious he hated Bush because Bush wasn’t a racist like he is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:44:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:46:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:46:53pm

re: #8 The Vicious Babushka

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Hurricane We’re Coming For Your Guns LOL!

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:48:13pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Beto’s opponent meanwhile probably wishes he could ban women in jeans.

FIFY

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:50:54pm

re: #11 MsJ

FIFY

True. We see how he treats Heidi.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:51:09pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

I regret even kind of grudgingly giving Dobbs credit for criticizing Bush. It’s obvious he hated Bush because Bush wasn’t a racist like he is.

Bush also wasn’t as xenophobic as Dobbs.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:51:11pm

Poe and all.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:51:33pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Hurricane Nike Ad
Hurricane Speaking Spanish
Hurricane Taco Truck
Hurricane The Reality That Trump is an Awful President
Hurricane Collusion
Hurricane We’re Coming For Your Guns LOL!

Hurricane Kaepernick

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:51:53pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Beto’s opponent meanwhile probably wishes he could ban women in jeans.

I don’t know about that — Rafael is married to a successful businesswoman; I doubt he is someone who really wants to turn back the clock that far. He’s a dishonest toad whose word is meaningless — but that would seem to be the standard for Republicans in the age of Trump

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:52:41pm

re: #14 MsJ

Poe and all.

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“Who hasn’t committed statutory rape in their lives?! I mean really, what man hasn’t gone to bed with a girl who lied about her age? Right guys? Guys?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:52:42pm

re: #13 Patricia Kayden

Bush also wasn’t as xenophobic as Dobbs.

Yeah, I was using the two interchangeably but yes.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:52:47pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

Hurricane Kaepernick

That would send them into forever meltdown. They’d defund NOAA and every other agency they could think of on the spot.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:53:11pm

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t know about that — Rafael is married to a successful businesswoman; I doubt he is someone who really wants to turn back the clock that far. He’s a dishonest toad whose word is meaningless — but that would seem to be the standard for Republicans in the age of Trump

Hyperbole, let me have my hyperbole.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:53:53pm

re: #14 MsJ

Poe and all.

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Oh wow.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:54:12pm

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t know about that — Rafael is married to a successful businesswoman; I doubt he is someone who really wants to turn back the clock that far. He’s a dishonest toad whose word is meaningless — but that would seem to be the standard for Republicans in the age of Trump

Wasn’t Mohammed married to a successful businesswoman?

Just sayin’.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:54:17pm
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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:55:06pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

“Who hasn’t committed statutory rape in their lives?! I mean really, what man hasn’t gone to bed with a girl who lied about her age? Right guys? Guys?”

Allegedly, he was 18 and she 17.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:55:27pm

re: #22 MsJ

Wasn’t Mohammed married to a successful businesswoman?

Just sayin’.

Besides, I was riffing off of how big of a puritan Cruz is and using hyperbole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:55:33pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

Hurricane Nike Ad
Hurricane Speaking Spanish
Hurricane Taco Truck
Hurricane The Reality That Trump is an Awful President
Hurricane Collusion
Hurricane We’re Coming For Your Guns LOL!

Hurricane Mueller

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:56:20pm

re: #14 MsJ

Poe and all.

Pesach Lattin
@pacelattin
The Kavanaugh thing is transporting a minor accross state lines for sex.

It’s a major federal felony.

2:13 PM - Sep 13, 2018
3,917
2,266 people are talking about this

What?? This is too ridiculous. This allegation would not be turned over to the FBI.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:56:20pm

re: #24 MsJ

Allegedly, he was 18 and she 17.

God don’t make me defend Kavanaugh but that bothers me a lot lot lot less than the other stuff. But it does show how hypocritical he and his ideology are.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:57:39pm

re: #26 The Vicious Babushka

Hurricane Mueller

Hurricane Actual Religious Freedom

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 13, 2018 • 5:58:56pm

re: #24 MsJ

Allegedly, he was 18 and she 17.

I can’t fault him for that if that’s the case. I know I’m guilty of being the underage girl with my boyfriend and then we got married a month after I graduated. I don’t see this as a big deal. Now, had he been 10+ years older and she was underage, that’s a problem.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:01:26pm

re: #30 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I can’t fault him for that if that’s the case. I know I’m guilty of being the underage girl with my boyfriend and then we got married a month after I graduated. I don’t see this as a big deal. Now, had he been 10+ years older and she was underage, that’s a problem.

I would add that I would feel that way if she was 16 too. He’s awful but this doesn’t bother me at all except that he’s probably acted like every other right wing douchebag and been a condescending moralist about sex.

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thecommodore  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:01:54pm

re: #14 MsJ

Poe and all.

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It doesn’t look like the FBI is going to investigate.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:03:30pm

re: #27 Hecuba’s daughter

It is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:04:07pm

re: #32 thecommodore

It doesn’t look like the FBI is going to investigate.

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Yeah and honestly I don’t think they should. At the very least, the girl was a year behind him and even possibly in the same grade. Kavanaugh is awful but I don’t want this to be that sinks him. I want his career of partisanship, lying in prior confirmation hearings, and being a shit person to sink him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:04:34pm

yeppers…it’s a circus

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:05:03pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeppers…it’s a circus

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Chickenshit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:07:10pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeppers…it’s a circus

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Who could have guessed?

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Cheechako  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:08:41pm

re: #32 thecommodore

It doesn’t look like the FBI is going to investigate.

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The only question I have is were there criminal charges and a possible conviction at the time? If so, did he “forget ” to mention them?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:09:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:10:51pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We’re going to hear about all his vices and character defects I fear in the coming day sto make the officer sympathetic even though it was she that broke into his house.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:11:02pm

I’m betting the gas main explosions are going to end up being attributed to massive incompetence, people trying to fuck with systems that were ancient before they were born.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:11:42pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:12:57pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The point would seem to be to give Guyger a “valid” reason for being in Jean’s apartment. Namely that even if the jury believes that she barged in, arresting a “criminal” in the commission of a “crime” is her job and that’s what she was doing. That Jean was “uncooperative” puts the onus for his death on him, not hear for acting in “self defense.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:13:29pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:13:29pm

re: #38 Cheechako

The only question I have is were there criminal charges and a possible conviction at the time? If so, did he “forget ” to mention them?

And how long ago was this and where? When I looked this up (about the time it applied to my cohort, so…1970?), there were only like 3 states where the age of consent was 18, but that seems to have spread universally now. In the South it was usually 12, and in Delaware it was 7, but 16 was the normal age then. I don’t know when the changes occurred.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:14:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:14:49pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:15:03pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

That contradicts her first three versions of the story.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:15:08pm

re: #45 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And how long ago was this and where? When I looked this up (about the time it applied to my cohort, so…1970?), there were only like 3 states where the age of consent was 18, but that seems to have spread universally now. In the South it was usually 12, and in Delaware it was 7, but 16 was the normal age then. I don’t know when the changes occurred.

Kavanaugh was born ‘65, so 1983 and I assume in Maryland/Virginia/DC since he’s from Maryland originally.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:16:28pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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It quite honestly was his most disgusting moment and he’s had plenty of them.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:16:50pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:17:58pm

re: #38 Cheechako

The only question I have is were there criminal charges and a possible conviction at the time? If so, did he “forget ” to mention them?

If the charge is really that a teenager took his slightly younger girl friend across state lines for sex, I cannot believe that this is something that should even be considered as an impediment to Kavanaugh’s nomination. There are plenty of other reasons to reject him — let’s not descend into castigating him over a trivial offense.

OTOH If he lied on his license to practice law by omitting a felony conviction, would that be grounds to disbar him? I am not an attorney so don’t know the ramifications. It is still a trivial offense.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:19:16pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

God don’t make me defend Kavanaugh but that bothers me a lot lot lot less than the other stuff. But it does show how hypocritical he and his ideology are.

I get it. But it’s still illegal. And if the sex wasn’t consentual, that, to me, remains a big deal. Age or not.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:19:54pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

Kavanaugh was born ‘65, so 1983 and I assume in Maryland/Virginia/DC since he’s from Maryland originally.

Yeah, plus the Mann Act seems kind of silly back there where the state lines are twelve feet apart like that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:20:54pm

re: #52 Hecuba’s daughter

If the charge is really that a teenager took his slightly younger girl friend across state lines for sex, I cannot believe that this is something that should even be considered as an impediment to Kavanaugh’s nomination. There are plenty of other reasons to reject him — let’s not descend into castigating him over a trivial offense.

OTOH If he lied on his license to practice law by omitting a felony conviction, would that be grounds to disbar him? I am not an attorney so don’t know the ramifications. It is still a trivial offense.

If he had a felony conviction and lied about it, yes, that is serious. In a way, even though I think it might increase the chances of sinking him, I hope he was truthful if there was in fact a conviction. Because I don’t want it turning into “The hypocritical libtards and sex” even though the real issue would be the lying of course. I want Kavanaugh to sink to the bottom of Potomac not just as a SCOTUS nominee but on the court as a whole but I really hope this isn’t what does him in. The revealed bit about ruling to force an abortion on someone bothered me far more since it shows he does not care about individual rights at all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:21:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:21:38pm

re: #53 MsJ

I get it. But it’s still illegal. And if the sex wasn’t consentual, that, to me, remains a big deal. Age or not.

If it wasn’t consensual, that’s another ballgame. But yeah I hear ya.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:21:45pm

re: #53 MsJ

We’re really going down the rabbit hole on this one.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:22:04pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, plus the Mann Act seems kind of silly back there where the state lines are twelve feet apart like that.

I know this all too well living in the DMV.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:22:37pm

re: #48 Skip Intro

That contradicts her first three versions of the story.

I think she’s toast. Her lawyer is not going to want her on the stand. Too many questions/contradictions. If she doesn’t testify, they can still use all the evidence against her.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:24:06pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

We’re really going down the rabbit hole on this one.

Yeah. I really think this potentially was an 18 year old senior and a 17 year old one. Not unheard of at all especially in the first semester of the year. Point of reference, I did not turn 18 until after I graduated high school. I wasn’t promoted any grades. I just fell on the young side since I had a July birthday. I’m seeing now that Kavanaugh’s birthday is in February. I really hope this just turns out to be DiFi doing her due diligence on something and not what we go to war with.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:24:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:24:31pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fire his ass.

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MsJ  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:24:37pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

We’re really going down the rabbit hole on this one.

This doesn’t read as consentual to me. But I could be wrong.

Feinstein (D-Calif.) acknowledged in a statement that an individual who “strongly requested confidentiality” flagged information about Kavanaugh that she found concerning enough to contact “federal investigative authorities.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:25:16pm

Perhaps one of our Lawyer Lizards can comment, but I’m a little surprised that an apartment that is a crime scene needs a search warrant to search it. Unless he had a roommate.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:25:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:25:53pm

re: #64 MsJ

This doesn’t read as consentual to me. But I could be wrong.

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If they strongly requested confidentiality than I apologize, this probably wasn’t two classmates. I just want to be sure we get this right, I hope you understand. I want to sink the smug bastard just as much as you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:26:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:26:26pm

re: #65 Blind Frog Belly White

Perhaps one of our Lawyer Lizards can comment, but I’m a little surprised that an apartment that is a crime scene needs a search warrant to search it. Unless he had a roommate.

I can’t help you there as the resident paralegal at the moment. I haven’t any experience in homicide scenes.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:26:39pm

re: #64 MsJ

Every Republican in the country is going to say “CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON ……..”

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:27:00pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity smile down upon you. and yours.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:27:21pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

He actually got ratio’d on that one, I don’t see many of those for Trump tweets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:28:09pm

re: #48 Skip Intro

That contradicts her first three versions of the story.

It’s been reiterated over the years that the initial reports of any crime or traumatic event are usually wrong. Reporters rely on leaks from sources that are often inaccurate. It may be premature to say what her actual testimony has been; we usually see only third hand or fourth hand reports.

I have mentioned this before: my late husband had an aunt who was murdered many years ago. He gave up on the reliability of newspapers at that time because every article on the crime was riddled with errors.

Do we have any reason to believe any of the stories on this crime are accurate and reflect her actual statements to the authorities?

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:28:10pm

re: #66 gocart mozart

That was one thought initially, but then Occam’s razor collapsed over my head like an aging infrastructure alarm.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:28:22pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I really think this potentially was an 18 year old senior and a 17 year old one. Not unheard of at all especially in the first semester of the year. Point of reference, I did not turn 18 until after I graduated high school. I wasn’t promoted any grades. I just fell on the young side since I had a July birthday. I’m seeing now that Kavanaugh’s birthday is in February. I really hope this just turns out to be DiFi doing her due diligence on something and not what we go to war with.

Mrs. FBW and I were both 17 when we met at the start of freshman year. My birthday’s in November and she graduated from high school a year early. Our family joke is she needed to graduate early so that we could meet. At one point, yes, I’d have been the 18 year old guy with the 17 year old girl. 13 years later, we married…

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:28:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:30:14pm

re: #75 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I were both 17 when we met at the start of freshman year. My birthday’s in November and she graduated from high school a year early. Our family joke is she needed to graduate early so that we could meet. At one point, yes, I’d have been the 18 year old guy with the 17 year old girl. 13 years later, we married…

Yeah I imagine that is quite common. The part about the source requesting confidentiality though makes me think there could be something else but based on what I know now, I really hope this isn’t it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:31:39pm

Shocked, shocked I say

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:32:38pm

I’m sure we may find out more soon. I do think at the very least this exposes Kavanaugh as another moralizing hypocrite but based on what I know at the moment, I don’t think it will or should be what sinks him. Sorry just a reaction based off of how the Cruz campaign went after Beto for a DWI. If he was convicted and lied about it on his Bar form, then yes. If it wasn’t consensual, then absolutely yes. But if it was just an 18 year old and his 17 year old girlfriend going somewhere other than their homestate to screw around? I can’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:32:47pm

You can watch Obama at this link:
Obama in Cleveland to campaign for Cordray and Sutton

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:32:57pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shocked, shocked I say

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Yeah no one should be shocked by this.

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Targetpractice  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:34:19pm

re: #73 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s been reiterated over the years that the initial reports of any crime or traumatic event are usually wrong. Reporters rely on leaks from sources that are often inaccurate. It may be premature to say what her actual testimony has been; we usually see only third hand or fourth hand reports.

I have mentioned this before: my late husband had an aunt who was murdered many years ago. He gave up on the reliability of newspapers at that time because every article on the crime was riddled with errors.

Do we have any reason to believe any of the stories on this crime are accurate and reflect her actual statements to the authorities?

Uh, at least two versions of her story are a matter of legal record because they appear in the search warrant and the arrest warrant. Both warrants were made public today, that’s why we know about the weed. That they are contradictory is a matter of public record, not the press reporting what they heard from a friend of a friend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:34:35pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:36:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:39:54pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Classy move on Anderson’s part to get her to talk about her mother. Put a human face on that monster’s callousness. My own grandmother is in the hospital right now. Thankfully, we’re not near the storm here.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:40:13pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

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Stop deflecting you disgusting pig fucker.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:53:03pm

bullshit

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:55:19pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

bullshit

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How about “no”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:55:27pm

re: #84 gocart mozart

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why would Kerry have to register? What foreign nation is he representing?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:56:17pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

why would Kerry have to register? What foreign nation is he representing?

Forget it BWS, it’s Trumptown. God he’s so fucking stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 6:57:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:01:08pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:01:48pm

This better not be Elon going Howard Hughes on us again. Looks good though, since they are promising to reveal the name Monday. This is hundreds of megabucks so there can’t be too many suspects.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:02:49pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This better not be Elon going Howard Hughes on us again. Looks good though, since they are promising to reveal the name Monday. This is hundreds of megabucks so there can’t be too many suspects.

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Richard Branson

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:03:08pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:03:35pm

Wow. Just noticed that Tomi Lahren has more than a million followers.

Ugh.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:04:09pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

Space.com had this:

But Musk may already have given us a clue about the private space explorer’s identity. Somebody on Twitter asked Musk if he were the passenger, and the billionaire entrepreneur responded by tweeting an emoji of the Japanese flag.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:04:22pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Wow. Just noticed that Tomi Lahren has more than a million followers.

Ugh.

how many are real people?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:05:20pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

how many are real people?

And not Russian.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:05:27pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Wow. Just noticed that Tomi Lahren has more than a million followers.

Ugh.

Well the same people have given credibility to Ben Shapiro, Stephen Crowder, and of course before them Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:05:50pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This better not be Elon going Howard Hughes on us again. Looks good though, since they are promising to reveal the name Monday. This is hundreds of megabucks so there can’t be too many suspects.

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Paul Allen has a deep love of aviation and space.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:06:03pm

Also, Tomi Lahren has no idea who these people are:

Amitabh Bachchan - 19.9 million followers. …
Narendra Modi - 18.7 followers. …
Shah Rukh Khan - 18.6 million followers. …
Aamir Khan - 16.9 million followers. …
Salman Khan - 16.7 million followers. …
Deepika Padukone - 13.9 million followers. …
Hrithik Roshan - 13.3 million followers. …
Priyanka Chopra - 13.2 million followers.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:06:30pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Wow. Just noticed that Tomi Lahren has more than a million followers.

Ugh.

*The current population of the Russian Federation is 143,959,629 as of Thursday, September 13, 2018, based on the latest United Nations estimates.

worldometers.info

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:06:49pm

re: #102 jaunte

Alos, Tomi Lahren has no idea who these people are:

Amitabh Bachchan - 19.9 million followers. …
Narendra Modi - 18.7 followers. …
Shah Rukh Khan - 18.6 million followers. …
Aamir Khan - 16.9 million followers. …
Salman Khan - 16.7 million followers. …
Deepika Padukone - 13.9 million followers. …
Hrithik Roshan - 13.3 million followers. …
Priyanka Chopra - 13.2 million followers.

To be fair, I don’t either lol but I bet their opinions are much more original than Coulter Jr’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:09:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:10:07pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s always been with Trump. He’s just the Senate’s Co-concern troll Gen Xer with his likeminded pal Rubio.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:10:35pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Forget it BWS, it’s Trumptown. God he’s so fucking stupid.

I understand, but, at the same time, I would like to know where he’s heard what he’s rambling about.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:12:07pm

re: #43 Targetpractice

The point would seem to be to give Guyger a “valid” reason for being in Jean’s apartment. Namely that even if the jury believes that she barged in, arresting a “criminal” in the commission of a “crime” is her job and that’s what she was doing. That Jean was “uncooperative” puts the onus for his death on him, not hear for acting in “self defense.”

She’d have to know that before going in
And it’s not nearly whst she said in her two stories so far

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:12:55pm

re: #107 Belafon

I understand, but, at the same time, I would like to know where he’s heard what he’s rambling about.

You probably have FNC on your Cable right? But I don’t blame you if you don’t click.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:13:37pm

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This better not be Elon going Howard Hughes on us again. Looks good though, since they are promising to reveal the name Monday. This is hundreds of megabucks so there can’t be too many suspects.

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Can rule out Bezos and Branson since they are competitors.

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jaunte  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:14:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:15:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:15:35pm

re: #111 jaunte

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Sounds like an argument for full out legalization to me. But yes, so fucking true.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:17:01pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah I knew my spidey sense was on to her. What kind of shit argument is that? My opponent raised more money than me and because of that turnout was high and I lost and that’s bad. Maybe if you actually were qualified for the office you were seeking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:17:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:19:19pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who’s a good puppet, you are, you are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:19:51pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:20:43pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nick Confessore

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This is … a very strange argument for a progressive.

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NY GOV: Cynthia Nixon’s campaign is not happy that so many voters turned out to vote. In other states, Dems have a problem with this kind of argument.

Not a strange argument — after all, progressives have tended to win primaries in races with low turnout.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:20:47pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That actually is more coherent than a Trump tweet, I won’t lie.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:21:45pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What sanctions are left to implement against North Korea and Russia?

Want to really hurt Russia? Block the sale their vodka and whatever else they make in the US, just like Cuban cigars.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:22:21pm

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

Not a strange argument — after all, progressives have tended to win primaries in races with low turnout.

Which really flies in the face of their argument that “they really speak for the people” and the more established Dems (I refuse to let them claim progressivism for themselves) do not. But yeah you actually saw that in Washington. Washington had a caucus that Sanders won and countered towards delegates and then a primary which had a much bigger turnout that Clinton won.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:23:02pm

re: #120 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

What sanctions are left to implement against North Korea and Russia?

Want to really hurt Russia? Block the sale their vodka and whatever else they make in the US, just like Cuban cigars.

I don’t like vodka that much and I’d gladly to honor my Slovak cousins’ Polish neighbors buy Polish.*

*Besides we know who really invented vodka.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:24:45pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

Yeah I knew my spidey sense was on to her. What kind of shit argument is that? My opponent raised more money than me and because of that turnout was high and I lost and that’s bad. Maybe if you actually were qualified for the office you were seeking.

Good politicians dont make excuses

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:25:06pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

I don’t like vodka that much and I’d gladly to honor my Slovak cousins’ Polish neighbors buy Polish.

Besides, most cheap-ass drunks buy Smirnoff, and that’s actually made in the USA. I had a bottle of Stoli vodka once; it was good, definitely better than the cheap stuff, but not so outrageously good that I’d be sorry if it got sanctioned.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:26:32pm

A friend of mine, no liberal told me that Cuomo established tuition free college for less well off New Yorkers in the SUNY system. Now, I’m still not a huge fan of Cuomo but that impressed me since the lefty purer than thou types especially the Bernie fans have said that’s a big issue to them and he actually seems to have delivered on it. So why the hell switch to Nixon who would likely be a total flop as a governor and likely get replaced by a Republican four years later and the progressive parts of Cuomo’s legacy erased.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:26:59pm

re: #123 dangerman

Good politicians dont make excuses

She’s not a politician. Very Trumpian reaction of her honestly to complain about people voting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:27:11pm
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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:27:42pm

re: #124 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Besides, most cheap-ass drunks buy Smirnoff, and that’s actually made in the USA. I had a bottle of Stoli vodka once; it was good, definitely better than the cheap stuff, but not so outrageously good that I’d be sorry if it got sanctioned.

Stoli is made in Latvia (?) they don’t even say it’s Russian vodka anymore.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:27:49pm

re: #111 jaunte

Look at that ratio: nearly 20 to 1.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:28:27pm

re: #128 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Stoli is made in Latvia (?) they don’t even say it’s Russian vodka anymore.

Wow, really? I must be behind the times, or buying from old stock, or something. The bottle I have definitely said Russian.

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dangerman  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:29:19pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

She’s not a politician. Very Trumpian reaction of her honestly to complain about people voting.

’s why I used the itals

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:29:23pm
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DodgerFan1988  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:29:58pm
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Amory Blaine  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:30:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:30:31pm

Lt Governor btw seems to be a lot closer. So that suggests to me the issue wasn’t Nixon’s ideology but that she was totally unqualified. And in the AG Race, it’s James, Teachout, and Mahoney.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:30:42pm

re: #131 dangerman

’s why I used the itals

Ah ha.

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can't think of a decent username  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:30:48pm

re: #129 Belafon

Look at that ratio: nearly 20 to 1.

I sure as hell hope their social media team is passing those numbers along to the brass.

If I was the mayor, I think I’d head into the PD tomorrow and start firing cops.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:30:59pm

re: #134 Amory Blaine

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Still better than Burnetts.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:31:02pm

re: #96 Charles Johnson

Wow. Just noticed that Tomi Lahren has more than a million followers.

Ugh.

But how many are bots that she paid for?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:31:17pm

re: #110 danarchy

Can rule out Bezos and Branson since they are competitors.

One interesting thing about this. The existing Falcon 9 Heavy could support a lunar flyby of the kind projected. SpaceX is adamant though that the flight will be made with the new BFR rocket, which will fly next year. The BFR will have a higher payload than the Saturn V Moon rockets (150,000 kg to leo) and could support a landing attempt. There are no apparent plans for a lunar lander but I am wondering if the higher payload might allow a direct ascent landing and return. This was proposed in the early days of Project Apollo and the monstrous Nova rocket was designed for it, but the more efficient lunar orbit rendezvous method was selected. Direct ascent requires more payload but is considerably simpler in terms of development.

Might they try for a landing?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:31:52pm

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

But how many are bots that she paid for?

You mean that her parents did?

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:32:01pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wow, really? I must be behind the times, or buying from old stock, or something. The bottle I have definitely said Russian.

I have an old bottle I keep that says it is Russian vodka, the new bottles say “premium vodka” where Russian vodka used to be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:32:05pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:32:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:32:34pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bankrupt that fucker.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:33:15pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

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I’m really impressed at how well it picks up state and county lines.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:33:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:34:22pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I didn’t know about James. Thought it was just Teachout and Mahoney. James would have been my pick too. Glad she won.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:34:28pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

Richard Branson

Matt Bellamy and the band Muse. Back in 2011, they approached Richard Branson to see if they could play a set in his suborbital ship. And given Musk’s infatuation with celebrity culture, he’d probably think it was a cool idea.

theguardian.com

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:34:35pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

How exactly is that a verified account?

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:34:42pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:35:23pm

re: #150 Dr. Matt

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How exactly is that a verified account?

same guy as WeRateDogs

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:36:20pm

re: #142 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

I have an old bottle I keep that says it is Russian vodka, the new bottles say “premiom vodka” where Russian vodka used to be.

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Huh. Well, I’ll be. That’s OK, maybe I’ll piss off the Russians and the Trump-humpers and buy French vodka instead.

(That’s a joke. I can’t afford Grey Goose.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:37:01pm

I hate to say it but some of the Brotypes I know are crying voter fraud. They’re becoming no different than the Republicans who see voter fraud whenever they lose. What I’m seeing out of New York tonight is that the people in that state did want change but they weren’t exactly eager to hand the keys over to the big house to Nixon and I don’t blame them.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:37:53pm

re: #153 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Huh. Well, I’ll be. That’s OK, maybe I’ll piss off the Russians and the Trump-humpers and buy French vodka instead.

(That’s a joke. I can’t afford Grey Goose.)

Or Absolut and make our resident Swede happy. I think Tek’s Swedish anyhow or maybe he’s a Finn residing there or maybe I’m being dumb.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:38:02pm

re: #153 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Huh. Well, I’ll be. That’s OK, maybe I’ll piss off the Russians and the Trump-humpers and buy French vodka instead.

(That’s a joke. I can’t afford Grey Goose.)

Grey Goose doesn’t make a lime flavor, Absolut does and it is my fetish of the moment.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:38:21pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

Do we have voting numbers?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:38:48pm

thread:

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:39:12pm

re: #157 Belafon

Do we have voting numbers?

Absolut - 2
Grey Goose - 1
Stoli - 0

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:39:12pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Or Absolut and make our resident Swede happy. I think Tek’s Swedish anyhow or maybe he’s a Finn residing there or maybe I’m being dumb.

Ooh. And Mrs. Fish is largely Swedish, that could work. Swedish vodka and Irish whiskey, what could possibly go wrong?

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:39:40pm
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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:40:09pm

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ooh. And Mrs. Fish is largely Swedish, that could work. Swedish vodka and Irish whiskey, what could possibly go wrong?

When you get in a fight at least you’ll have good health care?

//

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:40:36pm

re: #162 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

When you get in a fight at least you’ll have good health care?

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HA. I work for a health insurance company, I damn well better get good health care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:41:36pm

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:42:10pm

re: #157 Belafon

Do we have voting numbers?

nytimes.com

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:43:41pm

re: #159 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Absolut - 2
Grey Goose - 1
Stoli - 0

The Balvenie - 1,000,000,0000,00000,00000000,00000000000000

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:45:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:45:17pm

re: #166 Dr. Matt

The Balvenie - 1,000,000,0000,00000,00000000,00000000000000

Sorry, my love is given to The Macallan - considering that it’s basically a “family label” I kinda have to, plus out of all the aged Scotch whiskies, I just like it the best.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:45:22pm

re: #133 DodgerFan1988

How do we know that the cops found weed in the apartment though? Baltimore cops carried guns to plant on people they shot so who knows.
google.com

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:46:40pm

re: #166 Dr. Matt

The Balvenie - 1,000,000,0000,00000,00000000,00000000000000

I love that Scottish vodka! I have a bottle of 15 year old Sherry cask that I have been very stingy with.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:47:06pm

re: #168 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sorry, my love is given to The Macallan - considering that it’s basically a “family label” I kinda have to, plus out of all the aged Scotch whiskies, I just like it the best.

Oban or nothing!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:50:22pm

re: #171 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Oban or nothing!

My former boss was huge on that stuff. Of course, then there was one time he accidentally ordered a stein full of it at a local beer hall. (Long story.)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:50:34pm

re: #170 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

I love that Scottish vodka! I have a bottle of 15 year old Sherry cask that I have been very stingy with.

Scottish vodka? You have me intrigued, laddy.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:51:06pm

re: #168 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sorry, my love is given to The Macallan - considering that it’s basically a “family label” I kinda have to, plus out of all the aged Scotch whiskies, I just like it the best.

All I get any more is Famous Grouse. Best compromise between quality and cost in my book.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:51:17pm

Funnily enough since we are talking about liquor from countries you’d least expect it. I am wearing a T-Shirt and have a fifth of the only whiskey distillery in Slovakia.

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NetworkKed  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:51:30pm

Unlike whiskey (Japanese ftw) and tequila I have limits on what I’ll spend on a booze which should ideally be as near flavorless as possible. When I buy cheap vodka I go Svedka, if I want a bit better I’ll go Absolut. I don’t doubt there are technically better products, I’m just not interested in them. A friend tried to sell me on Tito’s, but meh.

And I’ve never had a flavored vodka I enjoyed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:52:50pm

re: #174 William Lewis

All I get any more is Famous Grouse. Best compromise between quality and cost in my book.

One that said former boss sold me on that I do enjoy is Powers. It’s great taste for a cheap price. If I’m in the mood for a good sipping whiskey and I’m planning a stop at the big liquor store a couple of towns over, that’s what I’ll come home with.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:52:55pm

I like that she correctly said “other attorneys general” and not “attorney generals” or she would have lost my support
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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:53:46pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My former boss was huge on that stuff. Of course, then there was one time he accidentally ordered a stein full of it at a local beer hall. (Long story.)

lol, be careful for what you wish for……

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:54:23pm

re: #178 gocart mozart

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Oooh that’s going to trigger someone that lives on 1600 PA Avenue.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:55:04pm

re: #168 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sorry, my love is given to The Macallan - considering that it’s basically a “family label” I kinda have to, plus out of all the aged Scotch whiskies, I just like it the best.

I toured both distilleries (and about a dozen other) and the contrast was night and day. Macallan was corporate, impersonal, rushed, cookie cutter, and the wally world of scotch. Balvenie was an amazing 3 hour+ long, personalized adventure where they broke out, on request, rare 42, 38, and 33 single barrels that were never released to the public. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy Macallan. I own everything from 10 to 21 and have bought drams of 25 up to 45. But after experiencing both first hand, The Balvenie is my go to mass produced Speyside.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:55:18pm
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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:55:20pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Scottish vodka? You have me intrigued, laddy.

Scottish vodka is called scotch, they wouldn’t have it any other way……

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:55:50pm

re: #183 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Scottish vodka is called scotch, they wouldn’t have it any other way……

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Oh, I thought there was some serious Scottish vodka.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:56:05pm

So it appears that the allegation may be one of rape when both Kavanaugh and the woman were minors. Doesn’t that become a he said/ she said given the length of time that has passed? Perhaps there is evidence from the time that can support the charge.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:56:12pm

re: #153 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Huh. Well, I’ll be. That’s OK, maybe I’ll piss off the Russians and the Trump-humpers and buy French vodka instead.

(That’s a joke. I can’t afford Grey Goose.)

Titos-Better and affordable.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:56:52pm

re: #183 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Scottish vodka is called scotch, they wouldn’t have it any other way……

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“Scottish vodka”, aka gin.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:57:13pm

re: #186 Unshaken Defiance

Titos-Better and affordable.

One of my former coworkers drank a Titos and Diet Coke at every weekly team meeting. I tried it once, I wasn’t really sold on it but it’s definitely a step up from Svedka or Smirnoff.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:57:16pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread:

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Twitter is screwing with that thread. When I first went, i could only read half of it, now I can only read the first tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:57:21pm

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So it appears that the allegation may be one of rape when both Kavanaugh and the woman were minors. Doesn’t that become a he said/ she said given the length of time that has passed? Perhaps there is evidence from the time that can support the charge.

If it’s rape, I say that’s very serious.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:57:46pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Oh, I thought there was some serious Scottish vodka.

There might be but I would think that they would have to make it incognito to avoid riots.

There is good Scottish gin….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:58:23pm

re: #191 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

There might be but I would think that they would have to make it incognito to avoid riots.

There is good Scottish gin….

I hate gin.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:58:26pm

re: #159 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Absolut - 2
Grey Goose - 1
Stoli - 0

When I want the good stuff I go with Ketel One, if I want something that is good enough for mixing but reasonably priced, I go with Svedka.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:59:10pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I hate gin.

The Drink That Shall Not Be Named in our house is tequila. Mrs. Fish won’t touch the stuff with a 10-meter pole. I myself am not a big fan, but I don’t have nearly the history with it that she does.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 7:59:14pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I hate gin.

I like gin, gin hates me yet I keep drunk dialing it.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:00:12pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I hate gin.

Gin, the original flavored vodka.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:00:40pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Drink That Shall Not Be Named in our house is tequila. Mrs. Fish won’t touch the stuff with a 10-meter pole. I myself am not a big fan, but I don’t have nearly the history with it that she does.

I’m indifferent to it. I don’t have tequila a lot when I’m out. I’m mostly whiskey for liquor and rum. Including bourbon under the whiskey umbrella.

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retired cynic  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:01:28pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I’m indifferent to it. I don’t have tequila a lot when I’m out. I’m mostly whiskey for liquor and rum. Including bourbon under the whiskey umbrella.

Mmmmm, bourbon.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:02:07pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I’m indifferent to it. I don’t have tequila a lot when I’m out. I’m mostly whiskey for liquor and rum. Including bourbon under the whiskey umbrella.

Bourbon, Scotch, Irish whiskey is mostly a sipping drink; I usually steer clear of cheap whiskeys that are for mixing. If I’m going to mix drinks, it’s mostly rum and vodka. I like Everclear, but I rarely remember drinking it…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:02:20pm

re: #198 retired cynic

Mmmmm, bourbon.

Yeah I get it when I’m feeling country and folkie.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:02:20pm

re: #196 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Gin, the original flavored vodka.

It’s just that it’s pine flavored vodka < shudders >

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:02:46pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Drink That Shall Not Be Named in our house is tequila. Mrs. Fish won’t touch the stuff with a 10-meter pole. I myself am not a big fan, but I don’t have nearly the history with it that she does.

I work in construction materials distribution and some of my customers bring me bottles back from when the go visit home in Mexico, I have quite a vast and varied collection.

Some is good, some is horrible.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:02:50pm

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So it appears that the allegation may be one of rape when both Kavanaugh and the woman were minors. Doesn’t that become a he said/ she said given the length of time that has passed? Perhaps there is evidence from the time that can support the charge.

This is from the Guardian:

A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room. The Guardian has not verified the apparent claims in the letter. It is not yet clear who wrote it.

theguardian.com

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:03:37pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I’m indifferent to it. I don’t have tequila a lot when I’m out. I’m mostly whiskey for liquor and rum. Including bourbon under the whiskey umbrella.

A good rye is never a bad thing, mixed in a Manhattan or straight for sipping.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:03:56pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Yeah I get it when I’m feeling country and folkie.

Maker’s Mark and Woodford Reserve are two of my favorites.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:04:00pm

re: #203 danarchy

This is from the Guardian:

theguardian.com

Okay, that can’t be ignored.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:04:15pm

re: #204 William Lewis

A good rye is never a bad thing, mixed in a Manhattan or straight for sipping.

Rye and Ginger Ale on a hot day, mmmmmm.

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gocart mozart  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:04:21pm
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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:04:57pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

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You can call me Perry…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:05:22pm

I thought that Kavanaugh may have been a 18 year old freshman who took a then 17 year old girlfriend to DC or VA to have sex. But if it’s what is being reported on, definitely look into it.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:05:31pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Drink That Shall Not Be Named in our house is tequila. Mrs. Fish won’t touch the stuff with a 10-meter pole. I myself am not a big fan, but I don’t have nearly the history with it that she does.

Good tequila is my spirit of choice. Bad tequila is the work of satan.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:05:35pm

I had to laugh one time, when we had a professional bartender at my former company running the bar for a company party. I asked for a bourbon and he asked me how I wanted it. I gave him the “duh” stare and said, “Neat, of course.” He was like, “Oh, I see we have a man that knows his whiskey. You wouldn’t believe the things that people ask me to mix with this, thinking they know what they’re doing.”

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Dr. Matt  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:05:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:07:08pm

re: #213 Dr. Matt

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The Chelyabinsk Candidate. I would have called him The Chernobyl but seeing as that’s in Ukraine.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:07:26pm

Wild Turkey 101 proof.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:08:04pm

re: #215 teleskiguy

Wild Turkey 101 proof.

I just finished a bottle of Knob Creek 100 proof. Not my favorite, but good for getting one rip-roaring drunk, if one is in such a mood. Wild Turkey falls in a similar category.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:09:49pm

re: #216 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just finished a bottle of Knob Creek 100 proof. Not my favorite, but good for getting one rip-roaring drunk, if one is in such a mood. Wild Turkey falls in a similar category.

No, getting utterly ripped is what flaming shots of Bacardi 151 are for… had them at my going off to the Army party and hoo boy am I glad I drank those at my own home. O_o

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:09:51pm
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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:11:18pm

re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That… would be interesting because he has only had one term. Possibly the only democrat who could be more polarizing than HRC though…

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:11:52pm

re: #216 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I just finished a bottle of Knob Creek 100 proof. Not my favorite, but good for getting one rip-roaring drunk, if one is in such a mood. Wild Turkey falls in a similar category.

I don’t drink bourbon often, but when I do it is Pappy Van Winkle.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:12:03pm

re: #219 William Lewis

That… would be interesting because he has only had one term. Possibly the only democrat who could be more polarizing than HRC though…

Well he’s also 94 lol but yes.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:12:29pm

Hurricane Florence is now a Category 1 storm with maximum sustained winds of 90 m.p.h. in the eyewall. They’re expecting upwards of an 11 foot storm surge along most of North Carolina coast tomorrow morning. Once it makes landfall it’s going to stall out, catastrophic rainfall totals are expected.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:13:12pm

re: #217 William Lewis

No, getting utterly ripped is what flaming shots of Bacardi 151 are for… had them at my going off to the Army party and hoo boy am I glad I drank those at my own home. O_o

Ore the aforementioned Everclear… As I said, I don’t really remember drinking it, though I know in my head that I’ve bought at least 2 bottles since I started drinking all the liquors.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:13:28pm

re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Constitution says Jimmy can have one more term. Carter was the choice when the USA was sick of a crook in the White House before, he can be it again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:14:19pm

re: #223 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ore the aforementioned Everclear… As I said, I don’t really remember drinking it, though I know in my head that I’ve bought at least 2 bottles since I started drinking all the liquors.

Oh hell no to Everclear, I had that in a jello shot and I puked in the frat’s trash can that night.*

*Needless to say I wasn’t invited back. Well they stopped having parties too officially.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:15:15pm

re: #224 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

The Constitution says Jimmy can have one more term. Carter was the choice when the USA was sick of a crook in the White House before, he can be it again.

I do have to admit that would be really cool and I know y’all aren’t serious. He’d still be better than Trump though.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:15:22pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Oh hell no to Everclear, I had that in a jello shot and I puked in the frat’s trash can that night.*

*Needless to say I wasn’t invited back. Well they stopped having parties too officially.

It says on the label, “WARNING: Do not drink straight.” (Or something to that effect.) Yeeeah, I’ve done the stupid thing and taken a shot of it. It’s basically a high-proof vodka, at least to my palate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:16:02pm

re: #227 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It says on the label, “WARNING: Do not drink straight.” (Or something to that effect.) Yeeeah, I’ve done the stupid thing and taken a shot of it. It’s basically a high-proof vodka, at least to my palate.

Yeah I was young and stupid. I haven’t had it since that night. I have had Absinthe but I stay the hell away from Everclear.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:16:07pm

re: #227 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ironically enough, Everclear seems to give me the least complicated hangovers of any distilled spirit. I suppose I’d feel much differently about it if I’d drank it early.

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:16:39pm

re: #217 William Lewis

No, getting utterly ripped is what flaming shots of Bacardi 151 are for… had them at my going off to the Army party and hoo boy am I glad I drank those at my own home. O_o

I set my beard on fire with one of those once. Didn’t realize it until everyone around me started slapping me. I avoid flaming alcohol now unless it is in like bananas foster or something.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:16:48pm

re: #228 HappyWarrior

Yeah I was young and stupid. I haven’t had it since that night. I have had Absinthe but I stay the hell away from Everclear.

I have never had Absinthe. I want to try it because I actually like black licorice.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:17:06pm

re: #203 danarchy

This is from the Guardian:

theguardian.com

If this is a single incident and not a pattern, given that this the woman apparently was not physically harmed, it’s unlikely to derail the nomination. On the other hand, if other teenagers from that period now report similar experiences with an actual assault, the situation becomes more serious. But again, unless something was reported to authorities, it’s not clear how officials today would verify the allegations from 35 years ago.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:17:14pm

Everclear is great if you have a trough and 50 pounds of fresh fruit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:17:14pm

re: #229 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ironically enough, Everclear seems to give me the least complicated hangovers of any distilled spirit. I suppose I’d feel much differently about it if I’d drank it early.

I actually wasn’t hungover the next day but I definitely alienated those guys. I definitely had a problem with booze in college and even for a few years after it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:17:39pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have never had Absinthe. I want to try it because I actually like black licorice.

I do too which is why I like the taste of absinthe.

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Belafon  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:18:34pm

In light of our disastrous word use the other day, I thought this article, though about Python, was interesting:

‘Master/Slave’ Terminology Was Removed from Python Programming Language

If you’re not immersed in the world of software or electronics engineering, you might find yourself surprised at how often the terms “master” and “slave” are thrown around in documentation. When discussing technology, these terms are used to refer to components that have total control over other components or are controlled by a component, respectively. Given that slavery was institutionalized in the United States for hundreds of years, however, the casual use of these terms by techies has understandably become a contentious issue in recent years.

The issue escalated last week when a programmer issued a change request that advocated for avoiding this terminology in Python, which is consistently ranked as one of the top three programming languages in the world.

“For diversity reasons, it would be nice to try to avoid ‘master’ and ‘slave’ terminology, which can be associated with slavery,” Victor Stinner, a developer with the open source software company Red Hat, wrote. Stinner cited multiple private complaints in the thread as the reason for requesting the change.

Unsurprisingly, the change request resulted in a heated debate among Python developers about the necessity for the change. Many developers agreeing that the word “slave” ought to be removed, but that “master” wasn’t an offensive term. Others argued that the terminology accurately describes the relationship between electronic components and should be taken in context. One developer even invoked BDSM culture, saying “‘master/slave’ can have *positive* connotations. You want to support diversity, then why are you discriminating against that subculture?”

In the end, most of Stinner’s suggested terminology changes were adopted. Thus, “slaves” was changed to “workers” or “helpers” and “master process” to “parent process.”

The rest of the article talks about the removal of the terminology from other languages.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:19:02pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

I actually wasn’t hungover the next day but I definitely alienated those guys. I definitely had a problem with booze in college and even for a few years after it.

I can understand that. One of the advantages to starting drinking far later than most (I didn’t have my first drink until 2010, that was a bottle of wine, and I didn’t start regular drinking until 2015 when I was 31 years old) is that I didn’t have to deal with ongoing body changes at the same time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:19:32pm

re: #232 Hecuba’s daughter

If this is a single incident and not a pattern, given that this the woman apparently was not physically harmed, it’s unlikely to derail the nomination. On the other hand, if other teenagers from that period now report similar experiences with an actual assault, the situation becomes more serious. But again, unless something was reported to authorities, it’s not clear how officials today would verify the allegations from 35 years ago.

I don’t know if it’s likely to derail it either. However, I do think it should be looked at and investigated. We’re talking about a man who will be interpreting the law for all 330 mllion of us and will be a deciding vote on issues. We deserve to know if he’s the kind of man who treats women this way.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:19:51pm

So, all the BernieBro candidates in the Democratic primary in New York went down in flames tonight. It is well.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:20:27pm

re: #237 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I can understand that. One of the advantages to starting drinking far later than most (I didn’t have my first drink until 2010, that was a bottle of wine, and I didn’t start regular drinking until 2015 when I was 31 years old) is that I didn’t have to deal with ongoing body changes at the same time.

I think for me, it was just immaturity and TBH showing off. I’m a pretty quiet guy and low key but I wanted people to see me. Stupid kid I know.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:20:45pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have never had Absinthe. I want to try it because I actually like black licorice.

Throw some Good & Plentys in some Everclear.

//

The real Absinthe made with wormwood can’t be sold in the US, I’ll savor the experience to drink the real thing? Maybe?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:20:54pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

I think for me, it was just immaturity and TBH showing off. I’m a pretty quiet guy and low key but I wanted people to see me. Stupid kid I know.

Going to a dry campus helped. But of course, you know I was a wingnut up until fairly recently.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:21:15pm

re: #241 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Vodka gummies are a thing in our house, but that just sounds EPIC.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:21:51pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

So, all the BernieBro candidates in the Democratic primary in New York went down in flames tonight. It is well.

Let’s hope their voters come out and support the Dems, instead of staying home in a snit. But I am not optimistic; they are “my way or the highway” type of voters.

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Skip Intro  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:21:59pm

re: #220 danarchy

I don’t drink bourbon often, but when I do it is Pappy Van Winkle.

Uh-huh.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:22:08pm

I’ve had “real” Absinthe, made with wormwood. It didn’t make me hallucinate, it got me drunk quickly though.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:22:47pm

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s hope their voters come out and support the Dems, instead of staying home in a snit. But I am not optimistic; they are “my way or the highway” type of voters.

We’re talking about New York in a very Democratic year.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:23:18pm

OT: a comment at a comic forum I read

“Reddit is where the toilet flushes to after Satan goes potty.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:23:19pm

Not to mention the fact that turnout was very high in the primary and Cuomo especially won big.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:24:31pm

re: #248 William Lewis

OT: a comment at a comic forum I read

“Reddit is where the toilet flushes to after Satan goes potty.”

Funny, that. I use Reddit for doing research in Pokemon Go. That community is actually rather healthy and helpful. I suppose it depends on how tangentially relevant the subject matter is to anything real-world.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:24:44pm

re: #238 HappyWarrior

I don’t know if it’s likely to derail it either. However, I do think it should be looked at and investigated. We’re talking about a man who will be interpreting the law for all 330 mllion of us and will be a deciding vote on issues. We deserve to know if he’s the kind of man who treats women this way.

His record has proved beyond doubt that he will work to harm our country beyond repair. His legal treatment of women is appalling. But I guess we have to use whatever tools are available to stop this nomination.

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calochortus  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:24:52pm

re: #241 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Throw some Good & Plentys in some Everclear.

//

The real Absinthe made with wormwood can’t be sold in the US, I’ll savor the experience to drink the real thing? Maybe?

I believe it is legal in the US as of about a decade ago.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:25:21pm

re: #194 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Drink That Shall Not Be Named in our house is tequila. Mrs. Fish won’t touch the stuff with a 10-meter pole. I myself am not a big fan, but I don’t have nearly the history with it that she does.

Walter Becker from Steely Dan “Cuervo Gold” Monologue Hollywood Bowl - Hey Nineteen

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:26:16pm

re: #247 HappyWarrior

We’re talking about New York in a very Democratic year.

Good point here. Hopefully though they will show up in other states which are not so blue.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:26:40pm

re: #251 Hecuba’s daughter

His record has proved beyond doubt that he will work to harm our country beyond repair. His legal treatment of women is appalling. But I guess we have to use whatever tools are available to stop this nomination.

I definitely think this is something to consider. I mean at first I thought it was what I said above but this is pretty serious if true. Maybe it won’t be the thing that stinks him but it fits a pattern to me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:27:03pm

re: #254 Hecuba’s daughter

Good point here. Hopefully though they will show up in other states which are not so blue.

I do too, I do too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:31:06pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have never had Absinthe. I want to try it because I actually like black licorice.

I hate ouzo, so I doubt if I’d like absinthe….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:31:45pm

re: #246 teleskiguy

I’ve had “real” Absinthe, made with wormwood. It didn’t make me hallucinate, it got me drunk quickly though.

Yep I remember the first time I tried it. Budapest. Had a couple German cheapos with my roommate and some German college students we befriended and then had some Absinthe. Went from not even buzzed to whoa drunk!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:33:47pm

re: #236 Belafon

In light of our disastrous word use the other day, I thought this article, though about Python, was interesting:

‘Master/Slave’ Terminology Was Removed from Python Programming Language

The rest of the article talks about the removal of the terminology from other languages.

So what about master cylinders and slave cylinders in hydraulics?

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danarchy  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:34:21pm

re: #245 Skip Intro

Uh-huh.

I’ve never tried the 23 year, but occasionally you can find a bar selling the 15 year at a reasonable price…well, reasonable for Pappy anyway.

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William Lewis  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:34:49pm

re: #259 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So what about master cylinders and slave cylinders in hydraulics?

IDE drive cables too.

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makeitstop  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:36:19pm

re: #241 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Throw some Good & Plentys in some Everclear.

//

The real Absinthe made with wormwood can’t be sold in the US, I’ll savor the experience to drink the real thing? Maybe?

My wife used to order the wormwood absinthe online from Europe. They’d ship with DHL and write ‘reading materials’ in the description, due to the fact that the bottles had labels. I think we still have a couple of half-full bottles around here somewhere.

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uriel  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:52:44pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ice is becoming Trumps praetorian guard.

And the guard is only loyal to the person who gives them the most Denari.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:48:25am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

Funnily enough since we are talking about liquor from countries you’d least expect it. I am wearing a T-Shirt and have a fifth of the only whiskey distillery in Slovakia.

And I currently have house guests from Slovakia. Have to ask them about this.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:19:57am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

We’re going to hear about all his vices and character defects I fear in the coming day sto make the officer sympathetic even though it was she that broke into his house.

He worked at PricewatershouseCoopers. They don’t hire thugs.


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