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Single-handed sailor  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:37:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:39:32pm

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

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Eerie

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:40:57pm

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

I knew they were going to demonize him so not surprised about the alleged marijuana finding which is irrelevant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:41:42pm

Hopefully she is tried, convicted, and serves real time for this murder. But there have been times where authorities with a warrant have broken into the wrong apartment, kill someone, and get off without penalty.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:48:51pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

I knew they were going to demonize him so not surprised about the alleged marijuana finding which is irrelevant.

I guess next will be the character dragging. Poor guy. Bad enough that he was killed.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 13, 2018 • 8:56:37pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:00:10pm

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:02:00pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

In case it’s unclear in any way, the penalty for possessing marijuana is not being shot dead in your own home by an off-duty police officer.

Unless you’re Jacob Wohl.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:05:33pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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Laura is hopelessly stupid. And telling someone you’re their favorite Jew has shit to do with Holocaust denial but that dumbass knows it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:05:36pm

Chuck Johnson loves the Jews.

He’s one of my close friends and is always telling me I’m his favorite Jew.

Definitely NOT a Holocaust denier.

You are Fake News.

— Laura Loomer

No dog whistles there.

Substitute “the Catholics,” “the Blacks,” or “I’m his favourite Black” &c.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:06:47pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Unless you’re Jacob Wohl.

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Cowardly little right wing fuck. That didn’t mean he deserved to goddamn die. This mentality is so evil.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:08:28pm

re: #7 Patricia Kayden

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I’m white and I know people who have not only not died for having pot on them but no bruises or scrapes. Fucking Wohl. Cowardly little right wing fascist fuck.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:09:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:11:16pm

Meanwhile Wohl thinks Paul Manafort is a victim of Mueller. Conservatism and I apologize AM since this is your line is a cult.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:12:02pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I’m white and I know people who have not only not died for having pot on them but no bruises or scrapes. Fucking Wohl. Cowardly little right wing fascist fuck.

I’ve been pulled over for smoking a pipe while driving, where the cop could see it. He wrote me a ticket; he did not search my car. So yeah, I believe white privilege is a real thing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:12:59pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

He’s one of my close friends and is always telling me I’m his favorite Jew.

Erik Jan Hanussen

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:13:41pm

re: #15 sagehen

I’ve been pulled over for smoking a pipe while driving, where the cop could see it. He wrote me a ticket; he did not search my car.

It is so sick the lengths these guys will go won’t it? This is something legal in 9/50 states plus DC. I just don’t know how someone as young as Wohl is so fucking heartless.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:14:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:14:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:16:56pm

re: #16 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Erik Jan Hanussen

I see you are a battleaxe of knowledge. I did not know of Hanussen. Interesting character … didn’t save him from Hitler’s cronies.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:19:25pm

re: #20 Anymouse 🌹

I see you are a battleaxe of knowledge. I did not know of Hanussen. Interesting character … didn’t save him from Hitler’s cronies.

The doctor who treated his mother was also Jewish. The good doctor managed to escape to the US. Died during the war I believe or soon after.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:20:17pm

re: #18 Patricia Kayden

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Unprecedented but what else is new with this administration. Those cops need to disobey orders.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:21:00pm

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

So you break into someones house and then you expect that person to follow YOUR verbal commands without protest or objection?

What the fucking fuck?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:23:09pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

So you break into someones house and then you expect that person to follow YOUR verbal commands without protest or objection?

What the fucking fuck?

White cop privilege.

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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:30:42pm

He was a risk analyst for PricewatershouseCooper. His family was prominent in the Carribean as effective Public Servants. His co-workers describe him as a joy to work with, an effective team player, and completely competent.

The apartment, after the shooting, had to be completely worked over by the forensic team. After all, a cop had fired the fatal shots. No drugs were found. Then they get a Search Warrant and find pot?

Where are are her alcohol and blood results?

I call bullshit. That cop needs to get life and a day for intentional murder.

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dell*nix  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:32:48pm

re: #13 Anymouse 🌹

Wonder if they took the evidence room tag off before they “found” it.

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teleskiguy  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:33:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:34:50pm

re: #25 austin_blue

He was a risk analyst for PricewatershouseCooper. His family was prominent in the Carribean as effective Public Servants. His co-workers describe him as a joy to work with, an effective team player, and completely competent.

The apartment, after the shooting, had to be completely worked over by the forensic team. After all, a cop had fired the fatal shots. No drugs were found. Then they get a Search Warrant and find pot?

Where are are her alcohol and blood results?

I call bullshit. That cop needs to get life and a day for intentional murder.

Thanks. We lost an individual that was beloved by many people. That is so often forgotten. And I agree, I want to see her alcohol and blood results.

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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:36:57pm

re: #26 dell*nix

Wonder if they took the evidence room tag off before they “found” it.

Yeah, it’ll be a gram of pot in a zip-lock spice bag without prints. You can get away with that in the evidence room, stealing a pinch from ten bags.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:40:44pm

I just find myself sick thinking about this because I’m of two minds, man she’s going to get away with this and also that I’m sure this crap has been happening a long time. We saw how Emmett Till’s murder was justified.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:42:58pm

re: #29 austin_blue

Yeah, it’ll be a gram of pot in a zip-lock spice bag without prints. You can get away with that in the evidence room, stealing a pinch from ten bags.

I doubt if they have to bother with that nowadays. They can order an inexhaustible supply to plant on people from out-of-state now.

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cat-tikvah  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:47:01pm

Kansas woman told birth certificate wasn’t enough to prove citizenship for passport
Barbara had been issued a U.S. passport before, but this time around, Barbara was told her birth certificate wasn’t good enough to prove her citizenship.

“It’s like they’re retroactively declaring that I was never a citizen,” Barbara said.

kctv5.com

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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2018 • 9:59:36pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I just find myself sick thinking about this because I’m of two minds, man she’s going to get away with this and also that I’m sure this crap has been happening a long time. We saw how Emmett Till’s murder was justified.

I know. It’s just a dodge to avoid a murder rap. Absolutely disgusting. If they don’t press this case forward, the entire management of the Dallas Police Department needs to be replaced. This isn’t the hill they need to die on. She screwed the dog and needs to be tried and convicted.

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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:00:36pm

re: #32 cat-tikvah

Kansas woman told birth certificate wasn’t enough to prove citizenship for passport
Barbara had been issued a U.S. passport before, but this time around, Barbara was told her birth certificate wasn’t good enough to prove her citizenship.

“It’s like they’re retroactively declaring that I was never a citizen,” Barbara said.

kctv5.com

Citation, please?

That TV report doesn’t feed the bulldog.

Who are the Feds that made that decision?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:01:01pm

re: #32 cat-tikvah

Kansas woman told birth certificate wasn’t enough to prove citizenship for passport
Barbara had been issued a U.S. passport before, but this time around, Barbara was told her birth certificate wasn’t good enough to prove her citizenship.

“It’s like they’re retroactively declaring that I was never a citizen,” Barbara said.

kctv5.com

This sounds like the same outrageous efforts reported recently in Texas to deprive Americans of their citizenship. This administration is pure evil.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:02:22pm

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

This sounds like the same outrageous efforts reported recently in Texas to deprive Americans of their citizenship. This administration is pure evil.

As in Texas, an American who was not born in a hospital.

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sagehen  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:04:03pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

As in Texas, an American who was not born in a hospital.

It’s worth taking note — pre-Civil Rights Act, black southerners weren’t born in hospitals either. Pretty much ANY of them.

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austin_blue  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:13:31pm

Ah, I see, your citizenship is decided on a case by case basis. Unless you have an in with a US Senator.

Then it’s all OK. Good luck voting!

I’m off to bed and can only note that this government is just completely dysfunctional. Who makes up these rules? Are they made up on a random basis? This is chaos as policy.

Fuck it, I’m out.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:22:59pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:29:44pm

Mob case.

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:30:04pm

Florence may have weakened a little bit, but it presents very strongly on radar:

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prairiefire  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:31:30pm

re: #41 freetoken

Oy, look at the size of that eye.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:33:50pm
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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:38:36pm

Water being pushed around: Hatteras is to the north, while Beaufort is just to the north side of the eye:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:39:08pm

re: #40 Single-handed sailor

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Mob case.

Pretty interesting given Trump has acted like he barely knew Manafort.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:39:48pm

re: #39 Ace-o-aces

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Wow stopped decency clock moment for her.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:40:38pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

Pretty interesting given Trump has acted like he barely knew Manafort.

Trump would deny Jesus three times before the cock crows.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:42:46pm

re: #47 Single-handed sailor

Trump would deny Jesus three times before the cock crows.

He’d call him “Hey-SOOSE” and deport him….

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 10:50:34pm

Mangkhut the dominant feature in the Pacific:

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freetoken  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:35:10pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:36:32pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:56:36pm

It is “risky” because it is driving our sensation and leak-driven media to distraction!

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KingKenrod  Sep 13, 2018 • 11:59:01pm

Saddened to hear that wonderful Broadway star Marin Mazzie died today of ovarian cancer, at age 57. Way too young. Here she is from 1994.

Happiness - Marin Mazzie & Jere Shea

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:07:20am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Wow stopped decency clock moment for her.

Indicates that she leans towards the “libertarian” spectrum among conservatives, they are less concerned about marijuana than about ensuring unlimited access to weapons

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:20:04am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:34:01am

Florence is less than 30 miles from shore on the strong side.

Croatoan

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:48:23am

re: #56 Single-handed sailor

Florence is less than 30 miles from shore on the strong side.

Croatoan

I never made that connection before, but that could be what happened to the Lost Colony

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:26:34am
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InTheWeeds  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:42:14am

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

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Wait. The off-duty officer invaded his home and gave him verbal orders that he didn’t follow? The nerve of him.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:49:38am

re: #59 InTheWeeds

The point of that post was the prediction of finding pot 3 days before it actually happened.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:51:34am

re: #59 InTheWeeds

Wait. The off-duty officer invaded his home and gave him verbal orders that he didn’t follow? The nerve of him.

but she identified herself as a police officer!

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InTheWeeds  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:57:38am

re: #61 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but she identified herself as a police officer!

Whew! Thank goodness. I was starting to think she did something wrong. /snark

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:13:01am

re: #62 InTheWeeds

Whew! Thank goodness. I was starting to think she did something wrong. /snark

Yes, he did not obey the commands of a strange white woman who entered his home.

He made the mistake of feeling safe and thinking he was master in his own home, especially as he was living in a neighborhood with white people in it.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:16:58am

River level data is starting to show flooding north of the hurricane. (KMZ file)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:26:05am

While we are talking surges, I chime in to remind us all that talking of a “Blue Wave” is not the approach we need.

The midterms are a series of individual contests, most of them seriously uphill. The disillusionment and disgust with the GOP and its President are major factors, but each contest is a local affair and is different in its dynamic, constituency and candidates.

Using mass momentum is useful, but do not rely on it, and most of all do not help set up a straw man for the GOP to knock down if enough close races to not play out in the Dems’ favor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:57:32am

LOL

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:00:36am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

LOL

I would like to drive around in a car advertising “Divine Chastisement”

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:21:35am

re: #67 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That sounds like a great band name, or something incredibly kinky. Or both.

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steve_davis  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:29:44am

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

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hey, officer’s lawyer, she was IN HIS HOUSE ILLEGALLY. He was entitled to ignore your fucking verbal commands.

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freetoken  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:32:42am

Piotrowski is going into the east side of Wilmington, which is now on the inner part of the NW portion of the eyewall:

Hurricane Florence Eye wall now.#ncwx #hurricaneflorence

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:33:36am

re: #69 steve_davis

hey, officer’s lawyer, she was IN HIS HOUSE ILLEGALLY. He was entitled to ignore your fucking verbal commands.

She was standing her (perceived) ground.

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steve_davis  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:38:11am

re: #29 austin_blue

Yeah, it’ll be a gram of pot in a zip-lock spice bag without prints. You can get away with that in the evidence room, stealing a pinch from ten bags.

it isn’t going to matter. I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve watched a lot of t.v. mostly college football, but let’s pretend it was free university and a course called Evidence. a competent judge will never let the marijuana enter into the trial. Competely irrelevant to events and potentially incendiary to any jury. Inadmissible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:46:46am

re: #72 steve_davis

it isn’t going to matter. I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve watched a lot of t.v. mostly college football, but let’s pretend it was free university and a course called Evidence. a competent judge will never let the marijuana enter into the trial. Competely irrelevant to events and potentially incendiary to any jury. Inadmissible.

now, the results of her blood tests seem like they would certainly be admissible, any word on that?

and the question is still unclear about how she gained entry in the first place

this does not prevent the media and the RW bloggers from painting her victim as a marijuana-crazed rapist monster who had to be shot down on the spot

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freetoken  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:50:21am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:58:00am

re: #70 freetoken

Piotrowski is going into the east side of Wilmington, which is now on the inner part of the NW portion of the eyewall:

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My ex’s uncle, who was a Marine based there in Wilmington, still lives there. I hope he had the good sense to get outta Dodge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:11:02am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:21:27am

re: #27 teleskiguy

I don’t even understand how that could be CYA since there is no death penalty for possessing marijuana. Plus, what was in her system for her to make such a huge mistake that she went to the wrong apartment ON THE WRONG FREAKING FLOOR?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:24:47am

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The man some one who is falsely portraying herself as a psychiatrist too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:26:30am

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

I don’t even understand how that could be CYA since there is no death penalty for possessing marijuana. Plus, what was in her system for her to make such a huge mistake that she went to the wrong apartment ON THE WRONG FREAKING FLOOR?

The point is to paint the victim as a potential threat, a drug-crazed black gangsta.

And again, a lot of highly relevant issues remain unclear. How did she gain entry in the first place? Did a blood test reveal any alcohol or controlled substances in her blood? What role did her colleagues at the DPD play in helping set up a plausible story to cover her tracks?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:44:31am

Seems that this is pointless as long as the moron-in-chief is still allowed to tweet.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:44:40am

re: #72 steve_davis

it isn’t going to matter. I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve watched a lot of t.v. mostly college football, but let’s pretend it was free university and a course called Evidence. a competent judge will never let the marijuana enter into the trial. Competely irrelevant to events and potentially incendiary to any jury. Inadmissible.

Which is why the cops leaked it in an effort to get it out in the jury pool. No different when the cops leaked the video of Mike Brown in the convenience store.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:46:07am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

We have created a rumor control page for Hurricane #Florence that will be updated regularly. During disasters, it’s critical to avoid spreading false information. Always check with official sources before sharing.

As usual, government agencies out to suppress dissenting points of view.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:49:27am

Truth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:49:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:51:43am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:53:38am

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

Truth.

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Yep people need to be reminded of that. Trump and the Republicans were acting like we were in worse shape than the Great Depression FFS.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:53:47am

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Coward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:55:40am

O_o

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:57:47am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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That’s that’s not a reason to oppose it legally. And you’re perverting the Gospels, you douchebag.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:57:49am
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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:00:47am

re: #72 steve_davis

it isn’t going to matter. I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve watched a lot of t.v. mostly college football, but let’s pretend it was free university and a course called Evidence. a competent judge will never let the marijuana enter into the trial. Competely irrelevant to events and potentially incendiary to any jury. Inadmissible.

Depends on the theory of the case the defense intends to introduce. If they wish to argue that she had a perfectly legal reason to enter the apartment, i.e. she saw the weed in “plain view” and intended to arrest Jean for possession, then the debate about whether or not she could be in his apartment evaporates. At that point, it becomes a “stand your ground” case and jury sides with the white woman who “feared for her life.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:01:38am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Yep people need to be reminded of that. Trump and the Republicans were acting like we were in worse shape than the Great Depression FFS.

But it is a matter of RWNJ faith that Obama’s socialism wrecked the economy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:02:09am

so my POS governor is supporting an independent candidate for a state House seat…this bodes well for the Kentucky GOP…

Former House Speaker Jeff Hoover has had enough of Gov. Matt Bevin, and is urging fellow Republican lawmakers to rebuke the party’s leader for supporting an independent state House candidate.

Bevin is appearing at a fundraiser this month for small-business owner Stacie Earl, who said she is the “true conservative” in a race against Republican C. Ed Massey. The two are among the five candidates running for the House 66th District seat, which covers northern Boone County.

Massey told the Courier Journal this week that Bevin administration officials recruited Earl to enter the race, in part because he’s been endorsed by the political arm of the Kentucky Education Association, the statewide union that has been at odds with Bevin over pension reform.

“I have no desire to attack this governor but I am tired of this governor belittling teachers and others with his comments and the things that he says, and no one taking issue or exception to that,” Hoover told the Courier Journal on Thursday. “And by no one, I mean other public officials.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:02:58am

re: #91 Targetpractice

Depends on the theory of the case the defense intends to introduce. If they wish to argue that she had a perfectly legal reason to enter the apartment, i.e. she saw the weed in “plain view” and intended to arrest Jean for possession, then the debate about whether or not she could be in his apartment evaporates. At that point, it becomes a “stand your ground” case and jury sides with the white woman who “feared for her life.”

I think it is a little late to try to offer the “weed in plain view” story given the statements she has already made.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:04:49am

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bevin has succeeded where Trump has so far failed — he’s alienated even his own party by being a colossal asshole toward everyone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:05:59am

re: #95 wheat-dogg

Bevin has succeeded where Trump has so far failed — he’s alienated even his own party by being a colossal asshole toward everyone.

Trump has alienated nearly everyone in the GOP establishment, but they refuse to own up to it because they need his rabid base of supporters.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:06:53am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think it is a little late to try to offer the “weed in plain view” story given the statements she has already made.

It’s pretty much the only defense she has at this time. Whether she forced her way into the apartment or opened an “unlocked” door, she illegally entered another person’s apartment without permission. And she shot Jean with the intent to seriously wound or kill him, which makes her act murder. So between the two, she’s looking at felony murder which in Texas means a date with a needle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:07:42am

re: #97 Targetpractice

It’s pretty much the only defense she has at this time. Whether she forced her way into the apartment or opened an “unlocked” door, she illegally entered another person’s apartment without permission. And she shot Jean with the intent to seriously wound or kill him, which makes her act murder. So between the two, she’s looking at felony murder which in Texas means a date with a needle.

There are still a lot of open questions that need to be answered in court.

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jeffreyw  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:08:15am

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Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:08:18am

so far this morning, the moron has retweeted about 15 things about the hurricane…all of them old tweets.
what a dweeb

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:10:56am

A wall of milk!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:11:04am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:13:03am

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is so wrong. Being a teacher should be a good living. But when you have politicians like your Governor Bevin and bureaucrats like DeVos.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:13:07am

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:14:52am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:16:39am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh? But paying the federal employees is just too much at this time but Nikki needs a maid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:16:54am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

This is so wrong. Being a teacher should be a good living. But when you have politicians like your Governor Bevin and bureaucrats like DeVos.

If they were truly qualified, they would find better jobs in the private sector!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:17:49am

I hate everything about this crooked administration. Every last one of them is a bigot, corrupt, or unqualified. Often all three!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:20:51am

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

I knew they were going to demonize him so not surprised about the alleged marijuana finding which is irrelevant.

He worked for PricewatershouseCoopers. They don’t hire thugs.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:20:53am

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some dude named “Pro American” is dissing teachers as lazy bums who only work 183 days a year. He’s getting trampled.

When I was a teacher in the USA, I had the choice of being paid over 9 months or 12, and I took 12, because even some money a month is better than no money a month. And while teachers supposedly work only from 7 to 4 in most places, most of us use our “off-hours” to prepare lessons and mark papers. Additionally, in many cases teachers are not just teaching subjects, but also being surrogate parents, child advocates, friends and counselors without portfolio to their students. IOW those 183 days are very, very long days doing more than one kind of job.

Chinese teachers are not paid especially well, but at least here they get a place to live that is provided or partially funded by their school and often free or very cheap meals at the school cafeteria. Plus, Chinese people respect teachers as invaluable foundations of a civilized society.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:22:11am
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A Mom Anon  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:22:37am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

They are here to help themselves to as much money as they can cram into their pockets. To them, Public Service means the public serves them. That’s all that matters to them.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:22:42am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they were truly qualified, they would find better jobs in the private sector!

/

Agh. This one just gets me on a personal level. Godmother who was my grandmother’s baby sister was a teacher who was the first in that side of the family to attend college, she was even valedictorian in her high school class. The way teachers are treated in this country infuriates me.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:23:39am

re: #109 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

He worked for PricewatershouseCoopers. They don’t hire thugs.

PwC, if it’s anything like KPMG, where my son worked, has very strict hiring requirements, because employees are dealing with other people’s M-O-N-E-Y. Once you’re hired, they might overlook a little recreational or medicinal marijuana, but not much more than that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:25:57am

re: #110 wheat-dogg

Some dude named “Pro American” is dissing teachers as lazy bums who only work 183 days a year. He’s getting trampled.

When I was a teacher in the USA, I had the choice of being paid over 9 months or 12, and I took 12, because even some money a month is better than no money a month. And while teachers supposedly work only from 7 to 4 in most places, most of us use our “off-hours” to prepare lessons and mark papers. Additionally, in many cases teachers are not just teaching subjects, but also being surrogate parents, child advocates, friends and counselors without portfolio to their students. IOW those 183 days are very, very long days doing more than one kind of job.

Chinese teachers are not paid especially well, but at least here they get a place to live that is provided or partially funded by their school and often free or very cheap meals at the school cafeteria. Plus, Chinese people respect teachers as invaluable foundations of a civilized society.

Fucking right wing idiots. Btw I met an American teaching in China while I was in Krakow. His students are younger than yours and he’s in another part of the country but his stories made me think of your and my buddy who teaches kids the same age in South Korea.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:27:00am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Agh. This one just gets me on a personal level. Godmother who was my grandmother’s baby sister was a teacher who was the first in that side of the family to attend college, she was even valedictorian in her high school class. The way teachers are treated in this country infuriates me.

Americans typically have the attitude that anyone can be a teacher, because good teachers make it look easy, and bad teachers leave the impression that any idiot can do it. I had no fckin’ idea how hard a job it was until I actually started doing it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:28:24am

re: #114 wheat-dogg

PwC, if it’s anything like KPMG, where my son worked, has very strict hiring requirements, because employees are dealing with other people’s M-O-N-E-Y. Once you’re hired, they might overlook a little recreational or medicinal marijuana, but not much more than that.

You mean for once the cops might be up against an organization with deep pockets and a strong imperative to protect their reputation, too? I look forward to the battle of the character witnesses at the trial. I know which I would find more believable.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:32:51am

re: #116 wheat-dogg

Americans typically have the attitude that anyone can be a teacher, because good teachers make it look easy, and bad teachers leave the impression that any idiot can do it. I had no fckin’ idea how hard a job it was until I actually started doing it.

Funny story but as you know I’m into genealogy. Anyhow I was posting on a Mayo FB group. Someone mentioned the play, Playboy of the Western World and I recalled the Irish professor who taught us the play because he was very memorable. A couple of the natives- there are always natives in these genealogy groups knew exactly who I was talking about and knew him through academia and doing some acting themselves.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:34:46am

re: #114 wheat-dogg

PwC, if it’s anything like KPMG, where my son worked, has very strict hiring requirements, because employees are dealing with other people’s M-O-N-E-Y. Once you’re hired, they might overlook a little recreational or medicinal marijuana, but not much more than that.

Yes, they do have extremely strict hiring requirements. It’s not a place where they hire just anyone.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:38:12am

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:39:59am

‘Morning, Lizards.

As if there hasn’t been enough animal-related activity at our house this week…

My brother in law and sister in law are taking a long weekend in Massachusetts this weekend, so he came over and dropped off his dog last night for some dog-sitting. Their dog Sandy is the same age as Scout, and they’ve been play pals since they were both puppies. Any time they get together there’s a lot of roughhousing going on, and this time’s no exception

So I’ve got two 80-plus pound dogs running through the house, two young cats hiding out downstairs (my BiL has no cats, so Sandy is cat-curious), and later today we’ll be adding a heavily-medicated cat to the mix once we go and pick up Trixie (who will be staying in our upstairs extra bedroom until Sandy goes home). My wife and I knew this was coming, so we cleared our weekend schedules in order to be able to wrangle animals and keep certain ones away from certain other ones.

Gonna be a long weekend here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:42:02am

re: #116 wheat-dogg

Americans typically have the attitude that anyone can be a teacher, because good teachers make it look easy, and bad teachers leave the impression that any idiot can do it. I had no fckin’ idea how hard a job it was until I actually started doing it.

it also relates to the “we should run government like a business” approach

to a businessperson, things like education, health care, environmental or safety protections, infrastructure, etc., are all seen as expenses to be minimized and not as investments in a well-educated, healthy, safe and prosperous society

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:47:31am

We obviously can do both but it would be nice if some of that military admiration got transferred to teachers. TBH I can think of more teachers who have inspired me than vets and bear in mind I’m named after my grandfather, a vet but my teachers were everyone from people who are younger than I am now being an almost big brother/sister type influence to older professors who lived some of the history we discussed or met and were on friendly terms with the authors whose work we read.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:50:57am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:55:56am

re: #8 teleskiguy

Unless you’re Jacob Wohl.

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One way or another almost everyone in this country is committing some sort of “illegal” act in their own home

She was off duty…she was not working. No warrant no cause no work related nothing
No justification
And she didn’t know about the pot (assuming)

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:56:08am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it also relates to the “we should run government like a business” approach

to a businessperson, things like education, health care, environmental or safety protections, infrastructure, etc., are all seen as expenses to be minimized and not as investments in a well educated, healthy, safe and prosperous society

All too true, and it’s been one of education’s greatest battles since the 1900s. Dewey and others saw education as a necessary part of a well-informed, well-rounded population, while the corporatists and politicians saw the public schools as training grounds for future factory workers who only needed the barest of skills. The other great battle is between the Constitutional secularism of the public schools and the Religious Right, who believe that the schools should also teach about GAWD and JAYSUS. Meanwhile, the core job of education — teaching children — gets lost in all the tussles over what to teach and how.

RWNJs hate Common Core, Advanced Placement, and International Baccalaureate programs, because those pedagogical models teach students higher modes of thinking beyond rote memorization and adherence to authority. Oddly, their attitude toward education is remarkably close to that of Chinas’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:56:39am

good fucking grief

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:56:41am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Laura is hopelessly stupid. And telling someone you’re their favorite Jew has shit to do with Holocaust denial but that dumbass knows it.

And it’s creepy

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:58:10am

re: #128 dangerman

And it’s creepy

Incredibly so. I’m not your favorite agnostic who hopes there’s a heaven tho? //

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:58:47am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief

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FEMA whose budget you stole from to punish immigrants.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:58:51am

re: #128 dangerman

And it’s creepy

Also sounds very anti-Semitic.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:00:02am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

All too true, and it’s been one of education’s greatest battles since the 1900s. Dewey and others saw education as a necessary part of a well-informed, well-rounded population, while the corporatists and politicians saw the public schools as training grounds for future factory workers who only needed the barest of skills. The other great battle is between the Constitutional secularism of the public schools and the Religious Right, who believe that the schools should also teach about GAWD and JAYSUS. Meanwhile, the core job of education — teaching children — gets lost in all the tussles over what to teach and how.

RWNJs hate Common Core, Advanced Placement, and International Baccalaureate programs, because those pedagogical models teach students higher modes of thinking beyond rote memorization and adherence to authority. Oddly, their attitude toward education is remarkably close to that of Chinas’.

I’ve always defended public schools because they not private especially religious ones are what really built this country.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:00:14am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

We obviously can do both but it would be nice if some of that military admiration got transferred to teachers. TBH I can think of more teachers who have inspired me than vets and bear in mind I’m named after my grandfather, a vet but my teachers were everyone from people who are younger than I am now being an almost big brother/sister type influence to older professors who lived some of the history we discussed or met and were on friendly terms with the authors whose work we read.

One of my most memorable teachers was my 7th grade history teacher, who had served during the Korean War and still sported a military style buzz cut as a civilian. He notably predicted that Brazil would be a major economic power by the time we were adults, and he encouraged us to doubt our textbook’s facile presentation of American history. Brazil has not exactly lived up to his prediction, but it is still part of the BRICS nations and Mr K was a far smarter man than most of his students had suspected back then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:00:33am

They deny the Holocaust to fellow bigots and then deny denying the Holocaust when called out on it.

Amazing how well that works in our modern media climate.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:01:11am

re: #9 HappyWarrior

That’s like a mass-murderer telling you how much they like you, so you’re going to be last…

THAT. IS. NOT. REASSURING.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:02:51am

re: #25 austin_blue

He was a risk analyst for PricewatershouseCooper. His family was prominent in the Carribean as effective Public Servants. His co-workers describe him as a joy to work with, an effective team player, and completely competent.

The apartment, after the shooting, had to be completely worked over by the forensic team. After all, a cop had fired the fatal shots. No drugs were found. Then they get a Search Warrant and find pot?

Where are are her alcohol and blood results?

I call bullshit. That cop needs to get life and a day for intentional murder.

She was not working
She did not enter the apt on the pretext of a crime being committed or investigated

She said she thought it was her apartment she was going into

Everything else post hoc is irrelevant

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:03:33am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

I’ve always defended public schools because they not private especially religious ones are what really built this country.

Jefferson, for one, understood American democracy depended on a well educated public. And the public schools in the early 20th century — as they do now — enculturated immigrants into being “American.” They’re really the first exposure most kids have to cultures beyond their own — at least in the cities.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:04:15am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:04:29am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

Jefferson, for one, understood American democracy depended on a well educated public. And the public schools in the early 20th century — as they do now — enculturated immigrants into being “American.” They’re really the first exposure most kids have to cultures beyond their own — at least in the cities.

That’s definitely the case with my family.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:05:17am

re: #28 HappyWarrior

Thanks. We lost an individual that was beloved by many people. That is so often forgotten. And I agree, I want to see her alcohol and blood results.

Drunk is an excuse.
Albeit a bad one
Stonee e cold sober means it was an execution

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:13:10am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are still a lot of open questions that need to be answered in court.

A totally different explanation for her behavior:

If ( and these are very big Ifs):
(a) she wasn’t intoxicated or on drugs herself
(b) she had just worked 15 hours
(c) she was frequently putting in those type of hours
I want to throw out another possibility:

Studies have shown that people who are sleep-deprived are as dangerous drivers as those who are intoxicated. Twenty years ago, I was putting in 15 hours daily on a special project. When driving home one evening at 1AM, I suddenly realized that I had spaced out and didn’t even realize where I was. What if she was suffering from impaired judgement because she was exhausted? Still should be some form of negligent homicide but not as deliberate an action.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:15:17am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Yeah, it’s going to be one of those days.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:16:29am

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

A totally different explanation for her behavior:

If ( and these are very big Ifs):
(a) she wasn’t intoxicated or on drugs herself
(b) she had just worked 15 hours
(c) she was frequently putting in those type of hours
I want to throw out another possibility:

Studies have shown that people who are sleep-deprived are as dangerous drivers as those who are intoxicated. Twenty years ago, I was putting in 15 hours daily on a special project. When driving home one evening at 1AM, I suddenly realized that I had spaced out and didn’t even realize where I was. What if she was suffering from impaired judgement because she was exhausted? Still should be some form of negligent homicide but not as deliberate an action.

There’s also the report that there were noise complaints made to his apartment, from someone who lived below him- which she did.

Someone here said she may have gone to his apartment to put the fear of authority into him and she over-reacted. Plausible, given how many times they’ve tried to tweak the narrative here.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:16:48am

re: #142 lawhawk

Friday news dump, comin’ up!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:20:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:23:23am
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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:24:47am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:25:18am

Whatever’s going on with this storm, whatever it’s name is, I mean who really cares, but MAGA POTUS gets an A++++++!!!

///

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:27:42am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why is state paying to furnish her apartment?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:27:45am

re: #135 Sufficient unto the day…

That’s like a mass-murderer telling you how much they like you, so you’re going to be last…

THAT. IS. NOT. REASSURING.

“I like you Sully. You’re a funny guy. That’s why I’m going to kill you last.”

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:28:16am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they were truly qualified, they would find better jobs in the private sector!

/

I hear coal is coming back

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:28:59am

Trump can’t claim that there wasn’t criminality in his corrupt and compromised campaign.

Manafort is going to be pleading guilty to a litany of charges, including violating FARA (which is why he was busy projecting like IMAX and claiming John Kerry violated FARA in a tweet last night).

Everyone in Trumpworld is corrupt and compromised. Everyone. Mueller’s got the receipts - and the convictions to go along with it.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:29:27am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:32:51am

re: #150 Sir John Barron

“I like you Sully. You’re a funny guy. That’s why I’m going to kill you last.”

“Remember Sully, when I promised to kill you last?”

“I LIED”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:33:06am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good bet that the maps on the desk are of electoral district wins.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:34:06am

re: #150 Sir John Barron

Exactly…even though he was the good guy, he was still a mass murderer.

AND HE WAS LYING ABOUT KILLING HIM LAST.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:37:26am

re: #32 cat-tikvah

Kansas woman told birth certificate wasn’t enough to prove citizenship for passport
Barbara had been issued a U.S. passport before, but this time around, Barbara was told her birth certificate wasn’t good enough to prove her citizenship.

“It’s like they’re retroactively declaring that I was never a citizen,” Barbara said.

kctv5.com

When my son lived in Moscow he went to the US Embassy to get a Birth of US Citizen Abroad for his daughter. His passport and birth certificate were not enough. Baptismal record? “I’m Jewish!”

I had to fax the Embassy my son’s Bar Mitzvah invitation. I tried to fax his vaccination records but they wouldn’t scan clearly.

What if I hadn’t kept those things?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:38:42am

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

A totally different explanation for her behavior:

If ( and these are very big Ifs):
(a) she wasn’t intoxicated or on drugs herself
(b) she had just worked 15 hours
(c) she was frequently putting in those type of hours
I want to throw out another possibility:

Studies have shown that people who are sleep-deprived are as dangerous drivers as those who are intoxicated. Twenty years ago, I was putting in 15 hours daily on a special project. When driving home one evening at 1AM, I suddenly realized that I had spaced out and didn’t even realize where I was. What if she was suffering from impaired judgement because she was exhausted? Still should be some form of negligent homicide but not as deliberate an action.

If she was that impaired she should not have been carrying a gun
Why?
Exactly what happened is why

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:39:12am

Good news for NY: Six of the eight members of the Independent Democratic Conference (IDC), also known as Democrats that keep Republicans controlling NY State, lost in their primaries yesterday, including the leader of the conference: nytimes.com.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:41:13am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Of course it’s staged
There’s stuff on his desk

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:43:10am

re: #159 Belafon

Good news for NY: Six of the eight members of the Independent Democratic Conference (IDC), also known as Democrats that keep Republicans controlling NY State, lost in their primaries yesterday, including the leader of the conference: nytimes.com.

I’d never heard of the IDC until this morning. Good riddance it sounds like.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:51:00am

re: #158 dangerman

If she was that impaired she should not have been carrying a gun
Why?
Exactly what happened is why

You are right. People who are impaired because they are drunk shouldn’t be driving or carrying guns, yet they do. People who are exhausted shouldn’t be engaging in those activities either — but in their case, it’s not illegal.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:52:50am

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is the day that Trump became President! /////

—edited to correct typo :-(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:55:44am

re: #152 lawhawk

Trump can’t claim that there wasn’t criminality in his corrupt and compromised campaign.

Manafort is going to be pleading guilty to a litany of charges, including violating FARA (which is why he was busy projecting like IMAX and claiming John Kerry violated FARA in a tweet last night).

Everyone in Trumpworld is corrupt and compromised. Everyone. Mueller’s got the receipts - and the convictions to go along with it.

People will claim that he was threatened or extorted into making this guilty plea.

Witch Hunt, Show Trial, Stalinism, etc…

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:58:25am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People Trump and Fox will claim that he was threatened or extorted into making this guilty plea.

Witch Hunt, Show Trial, Stalinism, etc…

FTFY.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:03:40am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People will claim that he was threatened or extorted into making this guilty plea.

Well, to a degree he was…

‘Accept the plea deal or we’ll go to trial and you’ll be sentenced to prison for the rest of your life.’

Dude’s 69 years old. If convicted, he’d die in prison. So there’s that.

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Teukka  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:06:12am

re: #166 makeitstop

Well, to a degree he was…

‘Accept the plea deal or we’ll go to trial and you’ll be sentenced to prison for the rest of your life.’

Dude’s 69 years old. If convicted, he’d die in prison. So there’s that.

An alternative: They gave Paulie a whiff of what they’d present at trial, and taking the plea is the only way for him to try to save his boss’ skin…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:06:45am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People will claim that he was threatened or extorted into making this guilty plea.

Witch Hunt, Show Trial, Stalinism, etc…

Except Manafort decided why bother paying all that money for a defense when the President will pardon him for all crimes, including perjury. He has a permanent Get Out of Jail card. So why waste time going through the justice system?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:07:50am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People will claim that he was threatened or extorted into making this guilty plea.

Witch Hunt, Show Trial, Stalinism, etc…

The Lock Her Up crowd has suddenly gotten really weasely about criminal misconduct and law and order.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:08:57am

re: #169 Sir John Barron

The Lock Her Up crowd has suddenly gotten really weasely about criminal misconduct and law and order.

Law and Order is only for black people and Hillary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:09:52am

re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Manafort decided why bother paying all that money for a defense when the President will pardon him for all crimes, including perjury. He has a permanent Get Out of Jail card. So why waste time going through the justice system?

And the Presidential Pardon will be held up as proof that he was somehow “innocent”.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:13:16am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

We’ve really got to find this Conservative Bible, the one with the Jesus that doesn’t cure the blind or the lepers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:15:42am

re: #172 Belafon

We’ve really got to find this Conservative Bible, the one with the Jesus that doesn’t cure the blind or the lepers.

He does, he just charges for it…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:15:43am

re: #172 Belafon

We’ve really got to find this Conservative Bible, the one with the Jesus that doesn’t cure the blind or the lepers.

And the Lord sayeth thou should have known that my words were enough to overcome your sickness. Seriously this is really sick coming from a man whose healthcare is paid for by the government.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:16:31am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the Presidential Pardon will be held up as proof that he was somehow “innocent”.

Until he’s subpoenaed in another case and forced to testify.

Trump seems to think a pardon is a good idea. But he’s clearly not looking far enough ahead to consider that he’s exposing himself to damaging testimony.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:17:12am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He does, he just charges for it…

Ah Supply Side Jesus, he still owes me fifty bucks from the money I helped loan him to start a Chik a Fila near his Hobby Lobby shop.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:17:50am

re: #175 makeitstop

Until he’s subpoenaed in another case and forced to testify.

Trump seems to think a pardon is a good idea. But he’s clearly not looking far enough ahead to consider that he’s exposing himself to damaging testimony.

Trump never thinks about long term implications.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:19:53am

re: #175 makeitstop

Until he’s subpoenaed in another case and forced to testify.

Trump seems to think a pardon is a good idea. But he’s clearly not looking far enough ahead to consider that he’s exposing himself to damaging testimony.

Why can’t Manafort commit perjury — repeatedly? After all, Trump will pardon him each time and the GOP is totally fine with this. There are no Republicans in the House who care about the future of this country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:27:14am

re: #177 HappyWarrior

Trump never thinks about long term implications.

he has yet to face any unpleasant personal consequences from his words or actions

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:28:22am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he has yet to face any unpleasant personal consequences from his words or actions

That’s likely to change in a couple months.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:30:12am

re: #178 Hecuba’s daughter

Why can’t Manafort commit perjury — repeatedly? After all, Trump will pardon him each time and the GOP is totally fine with this. There are no Republicans in the House who care about the future of this country.

I’m thinking that Mueller (and SDNY) have sufficient evidence to refute the perjury and lock him up.

I kinda doubt the effectiveness of the ‘infinite pardons’ strategy. Everybody knows he’s guilty, which is why he agreed to a deal. Even one pardon will look like bald-faced obstruction. Multiple attempts will only make it more obvious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:30:32am

re: #180 HappyWarrior

That’s likely to change in a couple months.

But in the end, he will walk and although he might lose his estate and empire, he will be guaranteed a cozy income for the rest of his days (ghost-)writing books and giving live appearances

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:31:03am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:33:38am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:36:50am

re: #182 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But in the end, he will walk and although he might lose his estate and empire, he will be guaranteed a cozy income for the rest of his days (ghost-)writing books and giving live appearances

We both have no idea what’s going to happen. I think there’s a possibility he really could end up behind bars.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:37:15am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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These guys ARE mobsters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:38:31am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:39:49am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Do they also give him floaties so he doesn’t drown in his own shit on the toilet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:40:40am
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:40:54am

re: #178 Hecuba’s daughter

Why can’t Manafort commit perjury — repeatedly? After all, Trump will pardon him each time and the GOP is totally fine with this. There are no Republicans in the House who care about the future of this country.

Because Trump can’t pardon him for state convictions.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:40:55am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

We both have no idea what’s going to happen. I think there’s a possibility he really could end up behind bars.

slight, but if I were to bet, I would say that he gets probation at worst

which he would then violate within minutes

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:41:39am

re: #190 Belafon

Because Trump can’t pardon him for state convictions.

and that is where the whole bag of shit is going to bust wide open

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:42:05am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Disappointed to see that Lugar did that. I thought Lugar was one of the few decent Senate R’s left when he was primaried. But also thank goodness for Durbin.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:42:53am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

slight, but if I were to bet, I would say that he gets probation at worst

which he would then violate within minutes

Which would land him in jail. Plus, he’s got plenty of state crimes to answer to in New York. But who knows, maybe he’ll flee to Russia to be with Vlad.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:44:39am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People will claim that he was threatened or extorted into making this guilty plea.

Witch Hunt, Show Trial, Stalinism, etc…

“innocent people don’t take plea deals”

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:45:04am

re: #190 Belafon

Because Trump can’t pardon him for state convictions.

But aren’t all the current charges to date federal crimes? And if the perjury related to federal charges, such as lying to the FBI or in Congressional testimony or Mueller?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:45:09am

LOL

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:45:52am

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

But aren’t all the current charges to date federal crimes? And if the perjury related to federal charges, such as lying to the FBI or in Congressional testimony or Mueller?

New York AG’s office may not be charging him at this time because they know Mueller is on it but if Trump were to pardon Paulie, they’d be on him I think.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:46:20am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

LOL

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Another thing that Trump can’t complain about anymore lol.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:46:21am

re: #195 dangerman

“innocent people don’t take plea deals”

Of course, in real life, innocent people who are not wealthy take plea deals all the time.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:49:21am

Flashing some kinda RW gang sign I don’t recognize.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:50:31am

re: #200 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, in real life, innocent people who are not wealthy take plea deals all the time.

of course, sure

im not sure who i was channeling.
whoever it was, what happens in ‘real life’ is not a factor

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:51:21am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Flashing some kinda RW gang sign I don’t recognize.

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some sort of secret handshake that none of them can seem to master

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:51:57am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Flashing some kinda RW gang sign I don’t recognize.

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“Here, we cut off our balls to satisfy our God and Savior Trump.” These stupid hand signs are pretty funny shit considering Treyvon using them was proof he deserved to be murdered in cold blood and was a thug.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:52:01am

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

But aren’t all the current charges to date federal crimes? And if the perjury related to federal charges, such as lying to the FBI or in Congressional testimony or Mueller?

The current charges are. But Trump is based in NY, and Trump businesses deal with NY. And the Democratic AG nominee has promised to pursue Trump. Manafort will be called to testify there, and none of his actions can be pardoned by Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:55:22am

re: #205 Belafon

The current charges are. But Trump is based in NY, and Trump businesses deal with NY. And the Democratic AG nominee has promised to pursue Trump. Manafort will be called to testify there, and none of his actions can be pardoned by Trump.

I’m reading up on Tish James. Sounds like the perfect person for the job.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:58:55am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I’m reading up on Tish James. Sounds like the perfect person for the job.

But won’t the Kavanaugh Supreme Court rule that Trump cannot be distracted while “President” and so any charges pending against him will have to be suspended until he leaves office?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:59:07am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Flashing some kinda RW gang sign I don’t recognize.

Sounds like the worst gathering of nincompoops in the world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:59:55am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Flashing some kinda RW gang sign I don’t recognize.

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“Losers”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:00:28am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

But won’t the Kavanaugh Supreme Court rule that Trump cannot be distracted while “President” and so any charges pending against him will have to be suspended until he leaves office?

We’ll have to cross that bridge when it comes to it. Until now, Trump’s associates can and should be prosecuted on the state level.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:00:45am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Losers”

“Castration to own the libs.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:05:15am

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Brainwashed relatives utter the same bullshit!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:05:24am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Good point: Mueller’s investigation just paid for itself in Manafort’s $46M forfeitures.

I seem to recall a lot of people complaining about wasting government money, etc…

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:05:42am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Losers”

So losing that they make the “L” upside down.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:06:13am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:07:21am

re: #215 makeitstop

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They’re right but it really is pathetic that this is where we are with our President. He and his lackeys need to be repudiated big time in the Fall.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:07:29am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

But won’t the Kavanaugh Supreme Court rule that Trump cannot be distracted while “President” and so any charges pending against him will have to be suspended until he leaves office?

they’ll go after the trump organization, which he claimed he resigned from
it’s supposed to be run by the progeny

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:07:57am

re: #214 wheat-dogg

So losing that they make the “L” upside down.

Just wait. Zina Bash will flash that sign during the next hearing she attends.

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:08:00am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:08:57am

re: #218 Hecuba’s daughter

Just wait. Zina Bash will flash that sign during the next hearing she attends.

And then we’ll hear about how we’re all awful people for calling her out on it. And Derp will go on.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:09:39am

re: #215 makeitstop

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this is where we are:

- inside the whitehouse
- outside the whitehouse
- outside the country

all saying “ignore the president”

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:13:28am

re: #221 dangerman

this is where we are:

- inside the whitehouse
- outside the whitehouse
- outside the country

all saying “ignore the president”

Enough with people treating the tangerine toddler as someone we can ignore.

Time to treat the people enabling the tangerine toddler and continuing this farce/sham/criminal syndicate to face the music and be held accountable for their criminality, corruption, and complicity with ongoing criminal misconduct.

The 25A isn’t going to happen when the GOP continues backing Trump with 80% approval rate. The GOP isn’t going to dump Trump when they continue to hold Congress despite getting a minority of the votes. They’ve gamed the system to remain in power despite losing popular vote thanks to how Congress is compiled.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:15:05am

re: #222 lawhawk

Enough with people treating the tangerine toddler as someone we can ignore.

Time to treat the people enabling the tangerine toddler and continuing this farce/sham/criminal syndicate to face the music and be held accountable for their criminality, corruption, and complicity with ongoing criminal misconduct.

The 25A isn’t going to happen when the GOP continues backing Trump with 80% approval rate. The GOP isn’t going to dump Trump when they continue to hold Congress despite getting a minority of the votes. They’ve gamed the system to remain in power despite losing popular vote thanks to how Congress is compiled.

Just ignoring him makes the problem worse. He may be an idiot and infantile but he’s still a criminal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:17:23am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

Just ignoring him makes the problem worse. He may be an idiot and infantile but he’s still a criminal.

And do not underestimate his ability to manipulate the media

and remember that as President, he has a lot of aces up his sleeve that he has yet to pull out, only hinted at so far…

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:17:59am

re: #222 lawhawk

Enough with people treating the tangerine toddler as someone we can ignore.

Time to treat the people enabling the tangerine toddler and continuing this farce/sham/criminal syndicate to face the music and be held accountable for their criminality, corruption, and complicity with ongoing criminal misconduct.

The 25A isn’t going to happen when the GOP continues backing Trump with 80% approval rate. The GOP isn’t going to dump Trump when they continue to hold Congress despite getting a minority of the votes. They’ve gamed the system to remain in power despite losing popular vote thanks to how Congress is compiled.

And courtesy of the Electoral College, someone could win 65% of the popular vote but lose the election. The Constitution has gerrymandered both the Presidency and the Senate. The GOP has gerrymandered House districts, but they are also engaged in widespread voter disenfranchisement which is effective even when districts are not gerrymandered.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:18:25am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And do not underestimate his ability to manipulate the media

and remember that as President, he has a lot of aces up his sleeve that he has yet to pull out, only hinted at so far…

I agree but I think you overestimate him too. He really lucked in so many ways that he isn’t this time around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:18:51am

re: #225 Hecuba’s daughter

And courtesy of the Electoral College, someone could win 65% of the popular vote but lose the election. The Constitution has gerrymandered both the Presidency and the Senate. The GOP has gerrymandered House districts, but they are also engaged in widespread voter disenfranchisement which is effective even when districts are not gerrymandered.

they know that their demographic window is closing, so they are using every measure available to keep it propped open

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:19:23am

Always wanted one of these but it was way out of my folks’ reach. It sucked to be a poor kid during Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best times, as it still does today. They were good shows for the most part, well written and acted, but people who were filthy rich compared to you were portrayed as average, and it wasn’t just TV producers who promoted that mythology. It made you feel invisible.

I tried to find one of the Ideal rocket bases on Ebay. They had one, damaged, for 79.95. Will keep looking.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:20:45am

re: #228 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Always wanted one of these but it was way out of my folks’ reach. It sucked to be a poor kid during Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best times. They were good shows for the most part, well written and acted, but people who were filthy rich compared to you were portrayed as average, and it wasn’t just TV producers who promoted that mythology. It made you feel invisible.

I tried to find one of the Ideal rocket bases on Ebay. They had one, damaged, for 79.95. Will keep looking.

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Which I imagine is why PoC are understandably happy when they are represented on television. Something that “Real America” doesn’t get.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:24:13am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Flashing some kinda RW gang sign I don’t recognize.

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LET’S MAKE UP A FAKE HAND SIGN TO CONFUSE THE LIBS, WE’LL LOOK LIKE COMPLETE LOSER DUMBASSES BUT WE’LL GET THEM GOOD!!!

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:24:26am

Kavanaugh sounds pretty creepy. No wonder Trump likes him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:24:31am

Biggest way IMO Trump lucked out in 2016. Being the challenger. We may discount this but that was a huge part of his “mystique.” Now that we’re actually seeing that he can’t govern from his ass. And the other big factor I’m sad to say since I proudly supported her but HRC. I think we totally underestimated how many people despised her and were so eager to vote against her that they’d vote against that asshole to do so. That plus seeing that he’s full of shit and presto you got a under 40% President who I think will find his party in the minority in the House and or Senate next spring. And that’s when the real fun will begin. Having the majority will allow us to investigate him and his and the Republicans know it’s coming.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:25:06am

re: #231 makeitstop

Kavanaugh sounds pretty creepy. No wonder Trump likes him.

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I’m really disappointed that the FBI didn’t want to pursue this more. This is really troubling to me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:25:42am

re: #230 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

LET’S MAKE UP A FAKE HAND SIGN TO CONFUSE THE LIBS, WE’LL LOOK LIKE COMPLETE LOSER DUMBASSES BUT WE’LL GET THEM GOOD!!!

We really need to convince them that we hate it when they wipe.

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Old Liberal  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:26:11am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

now, the results of her blood tests seem like they would certainly be admissible, any word on that?

and the question is still unclear about how she gained entry in the first place

this does not prevent the media and the RW bloggers from painting her victim as a marijuana-crazed rapist monster who had to be shot down on the spot

To me, that is the most damning element- that the information being put out is all to disparage an innocent victim, and no information on how someone goes into the wrong apartment and can’t figure it out in time to not murder someone. But we know from hundreds of years of experience, cops have unlimited rights, citizens have none. Anything related to the perp cop is secret, everything that can be found and even made up on the victim is broadcast to the world. The right wing mind is so fucked up, crying “freedom” while lionizing the police state.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:27:58am

re: #235 Old Liberal

The right wing mind is so fucked up, crying “freedom” while lionizing the police state.

As long as that Police State is working in their interests.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:29:10am

Seeing on CNN that Manafort will cooperate.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:29:41am

re: #237 Barefoot Grin

Seeing on CNN that Manafort will cooperate.

Hmmmm.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:33:04am

re: #237 Barefoot Grin

Seeing on CNN that Manafort will cooperate.

That’s kinda huge…shoots the ‘pardon’ theory all to hell, if true.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:34:06am

re: #237 Barefoot Grin

Seeing on CNN that Manafort will cooperate.

Somebody we know is right now trying to wrestle his phone away from his lawyers and staffers so he can unwittingly tweet self-incriminating statements.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:34:36am

TPM is also reporting that Manafort will cooperate.

He’ll be joining the witness protection program, no doubt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:35:12am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Somebody we know is right now trying to wrestle his phone away from his lawyers and staffers so he can unwittingly tweet self-incriminating statements.

At some point, Trump will have to testify under oath. At that point, he is sunk, as he will not be able to do so without contradicting himself and/or other sworn testimony.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:35:39am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Somebody we know is right now trying to wrestle his phone away from his lawyers and staffers so he can unwittingly tweet self-incriminating statements.

PAUL MANAFORT IS A NO GOOD SNITCH WHO KNOWS CROOKED HILLARY MORE THAN ME!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:37:00am

re: #240 wheat-dogg

Somebody we know is right now trying to wrestle his phone away from his lawyers and staffers so he can unwittingly tweet self-incriminating statements.

Category 5 on the way.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:37:35am

So, in going back through Trump’s twitter history, came across the following:

Yeah, Trump’s been pandering to the fringe for a long long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:37:55am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

PAUL MANAFORT IS A NO GOOD SNITCH WHO KNOWS CROOKED HILLARY MORE THAN ME!

BRING ME ANOTHER HURRICANE!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:39:23am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

BRING ME ANOTHER HURRICANE!!!

AND 3 DOUBLE DOWNS, I’M HUNGRY!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:39:59am

re: #245 lawhawk

So, in going back through Trump’s twitter history, came across the following:

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Yeah, Trump’s been pandering to the fringe for a long long time.

Dipshit talks a tough game on Law and Order but he hasn’t met a right wing criminal he won’t find sympathy with.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:40:35am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I’m really disappointed that the FBI didn’t want to pursue this more. This is really troubling to me.

A single allegation from 35 years ago? Where there was no report to the police at that time and where everyone involved is a minor? And where the harm was psychological rather than physical? There is no way such a charge from so long ago could ever be investigated.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:41:02am
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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:42:05am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:42:34am

re: #249 Hecuba’s daughter

A single allegation from 35 years ago? Where there was no report to the police at that time and where everyone involved is a minor? And where the harm was psychological rather than physical? There is no way such a charge from so long ago could ever be investigated.

He wasn’t a minor from what I understand. He was 18. And yes, in this MeToo era, I definitely think allegations like that against a man who is very likely to be a Supreme Court judge should be taken seriously.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:42:54am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And do not underestimate his ability to manipulate the media

and remember that as President, he has a lot of aces up his sleeve that he has yet to pull out, only hinted at so far…

He has one card, and we know what it is: 27% of the population will do his bidding without question. And since the entire Republican Congress has hitched himself to those crazies, they are essentially under his control.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:43:06am

lol, his own people even.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:43:16am

re: #250 lawhawk

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I wonder if Ivanka has any fashion products in orange. She’ll look great.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:43:54am

re: #231 makeitstop

Kavanaugh sounds pretty creepy. No wonder Trump likes him.

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yesterday, no one actually had any clue what the letter was all about
recall all the wild guesses and speculations around the internets
all that condemning and / or excusing or dismissing

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:44:43am

re: #254 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

lol, his own people even.

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I challenge both of these fuckers to go to Tristan da Cunha and stay. But I guess that wouldn’t be fair to the other 293 people there. Some I assume are good people. But yeah Bill, Ben Shapiro is a DNC plant lol. Please, if we were going to have a plant, we wouldn’t have someone so unlikable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:46:31am

re: #253 Belafon

He has one card, and we know what it is: 27% of the population will do his bidding without question. And since the entire Republican Congress has hitched himself to those crazies, they are essentially under his control.

He can also get us into a war…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:46:58am

re: #256 dangerman

yesterday, no one actually had any clue what the letter was all about
recall all the wild guesses and speculations around the internets
all that condemning and / or excusing or dismissing

I really naively thought it was just Kavanaugh and a girlfriend yet to turn 18 having a fling out of their native Maryland. Where Kavanaugh grew up is very close to the DC and VA border. I’m sorry but this needs to be taken seriously. It speaks to how he treats people especially women and his character, which is something that has been spoken highly of.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:46:59am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

He wasn’t a minor from what I understand. He was 18. And yes, in this MeToo era, I definitely think allegations like that against a man who is very likely to be a Supreme Court judge should be taken seriously.

He was in high school, and it was 35 years ago. As far as we can tell, there was nothing physical involved. As much as we’d like to get him on something, I can tell you there are tens of millions of people, probably in the 100s of millions range, that will look back on their high school years and go “Yeah, I’m not going to hold high school antics against him.”

Edit: OK, it sounds more involved than I had first heard. But the rest of my statement stands.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:47:54am

This depressing chart shows why I will probably end up retiring to Central America or some similar place.

howmuch.net

Either that, or teach until they have to wheel me in on a stretcher.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:48:13am

re: #260 Belafon

He was in high school, and it was 35 years ago. As far as we can tell, there was nothing physical involved. As much as we’d like to get him on something, I can tell you there are tens of millions of people, probably in the 100s of millions range, that will look back on their high school years and go “Yeah, I’m not going to hold high school antics against him.”

Like the story with Romney bullying the “queer” student.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:48:25am

re: #260 Belafon

He was in high school, and it was 35 years ago. As far as we can tell, there was nothing physical involved. As much as we’d like to get him on something, I can tell you there are tens of millions of people, probably in the 100s of millions range, that will look back on their high school years and go “Yeah, I’m not going to hold high school antics against him.”

I still think it should be looked into. I’m sorry but they’ve been telling us that this guy is a boy scout. It’s not the underaged drinking that bothers me. It’s treating a woman like crap and making her feel threatened.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:48:47am

re: #254 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

I challenge you to a debate. Your show or mine.

Make it a knife fight with handcuffs and I’ll tune in.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:48:59am

re: #262 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Like the story with Romney bullying the “queer” student.

And where is Romney now? He sure as hell isn’t President. If you don’t think the stories about Mitt’s shitty character hurt him in 2012 against Obama, you’re foolish.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:50:15am

re: #260 Belafon

I made a slight change above. Please reload.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:50:58am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

And where is Romney now? He sure as hell isn’t President. If you don’t think the stories about Mitt’s shitty character hurt him in 2012 against Obama, you’re foolish.

Mitt was hurt because he did not motivate the rabid base enough. And the Christian Fundamentalists for some reason preferred a serial womanizer over a married family father.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:51:29am

re: #266 Belafon

I made a slight change above. Please reload.

Okay, I see your point. I just think it merits a look and I won’t object at all if someone asks him about it under oath.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:51:49am

re: #264 makeitstop

Make it a knife fight with handcuffs and I’ll tune in.

I had forgotten what an blithering imbecile this guy is:

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:52:48am

re: #254 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

lol, his own people even.

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Mitchell: Trump just completed the most successful period of time since God rested…

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:52:57am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

And where is Romney now? He sure as hell isn’t President. If you don’t think the stories about Mitt’s shitty character hurt him in 2012 against Obama, you’re foolish.

There are three things I think hurt Romney:
1. Running against Obama.
2. His smug look after Benghazi.
3. His 47% remark.

While the last two are based on the same character as his attack, it wasn’t his history that did him in. Otherwise, GWB would never have made it to the presidency.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:52:58am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mitt was hurt because he did not motivate the rabid base enough. And the Christian Fundamentalists for some reason preferred a serial womanizer over a married family father.

You’re talking about the GOP base. What about the rest of the population that isn’t the GOP base or Dem base. You don’t think that Mitt showing repeatedly from childhood to the present that he’d be the guy that would fire you and then chuckle about it. You are correctly about why Mitt did not strike a chord with the GOP base, what I am talking about is why Mitt did not strike a chord with the country. Little disappointed that you missed that part.

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Old Liberal  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:53:07am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As long as that Police State is working in their interests.

When I look at what is going on in the conservative mind, is there any explanation other than it is “racism all the way down”? I have a hard time finding any other basis than racism animating every position. It is the one thing had connects all, explains all.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:53:13am

re: #269 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

I had forgotten what an blithering imbecile this guy is:

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God Bill, get off of his cock already.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:53:29am

re: #254 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

lol, his own people even.

“Most successful…days of the American presidency.”

True, DJT passed Social Security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, the 8-hour work day, reducing unemployment from 50% to 1.4%, increased econ growth from -15% to 25%, built a wall enclosing the entire U.S. Mexico border, killed OBL.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:54:04am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Biggest way IMO Trump lucked out in 2016. Being the challenger. We may discount this but that was a huge part of his “mystique.” Now that we’re actually seeing that he can’t govern from his ass. And the other big factor I’m sad to say since I proudly supported her but HRC. I think we totally underestimated how many people despised her and were so eager to vote against her that they’d vote against that asshole to do so. That plus seeing that he’s full of shit and presto you got a under 40% President who I think will find his party in the minority in the House and or Senate next spring. And that’s when the real fun will begin. Having the majority will allow us to investigate him and his and the Republicans know it’s coming.

‘new york’ knew he was a con man and a liar. tried to warn everybody. not enough listened or would believe it was true.

my first stop every morning is electoral-vote.com

here’s a bit from today’s:

Trump, of course, knows that he has a dedicated base that will believe anything he says. If he were to say that the sun will be turned off this weekend for scheduled maintenance, they would believe it. When they saw the sun anyway, he would explain that it was a big LED lamp NASA launched to provide some light while the sun was offline, and his base would believe that, too. We have gotten to the point where 40% of the country rejects the concept of reality itself. It is hard to believe we are having this discussion, but here we are.

(i like playing with the boldies and itals)

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:54:20am

re: #269 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

I had forgotten what an blithering imbecile this guy is:

Just one of a galaxy of extremely dim stars, all wearing MAGA hats…

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ericblair  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:54:37am

re: #241 makeitstop

TPM is also reporting that Manafort will cooperate.

He’ll be joining the witness protection program, no doubt.

I guess we just found out who wants to pay to go to the Moon.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:54:49am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Mitt was hurt because he did not motivate the rabid base enough. And the Christian Fundamentalists for some reason preferred a serial womanizer over a married family father.

Christian Fundamentalists are not fond of Mormons. So yes, a serial womanizer who pretends to be Christian is preferable to an upright Mormon.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:54:59am

re: #271 Belafon

There are three things I think hurt Romney:
1. Running against Obama.
2. His smug look after Benghazi.
3. His 47% remark.

While the last two are based on the same character as his attack, it wasn’t his history that did him in. Otherwise, GWB would never have made it to the presidency.

True, true. I’m just saying that those stories played at least some role in shaping people’s opinion of Mitt as an uncaring asshole. I doubt they were the deciding point for many if anyone but I think Wendell is just focusing on why Mitt did not appeal to the GOP base and ignoring that he didn’t appeal to the rest of the country that isn’t part of the GOP or Dem base either.

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Old Liberal  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:55:11am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

I’m really disappointed that the FBI didn’t want to pursue this more. This is really troubling to me.

Hey, who, other than me, hasn’t done that to a woman in their youth?
What is youth for other than attempted gang rape, amirite?
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:55:38am

re: #276 dangerman

‘new york’ knew he was a con man and a liar. tried to warn everybody. not enough listened or would believe it was true.

my first stop every morning is electoral-vote.com

here’s a bit from today’s:

(i like playing with the boldies and itals)

New Yorkers knew him best and rejected him the most soundly. People from the red states far away from New York embraced him the most. That to me says a lot.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:56:13am

The canary is already singing

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:56:55am

re: #281 Old Liberal

Hey, who, other than me, hasn’t done that to a woman in their youth?
What is youth for other than attempted gang rape, amirite?
///

Ha, I’m very sensitive about this issue TBH because I remember a night in college when I was very drunk with a young woman. I don’t want to pat myself on the back nor do I expect laurels but I’m proud that I did not bother her and I did not harass her physically.

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b.d.(shaved yeti)  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:56:57am

re: #277 makeitstop

Just one of a galaxy of extremely dim stars, all wearing MAGA hats…

Linus only waited one night for The Great Pumpkin, these guys will be waiting the rest of their lives on Q.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:58:39am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The canary is already singing

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I’m not sure I’ve been a good enough person in my life such that I’d get to see Donald Trump, Jr. indicted.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:58:42am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The canary is already singing

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Ohboy ohboy ohboy

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:59:32am

And has Greenwald chimed in to tell us this is all standard shit?

Or are they going to go with “He just pled guilty to something that wasn’t even a crime”?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:00:32am

re: #288 Mike Lamb

And has Greenwald chimed in to tell us this is all standard shit?

Or are they going to go with “He just pled guilty to something that wasn’t even a crime”?

I don’t know. Thankfully we don’t seem to hear much from him anymore.

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Old Liberal  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:00:46am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Ha, I’m very sensitive about this issue TBH because I remember a night in college when I was very drunk with a young woman. I don’t want to pat myself on the back nor do I expect laurels but I’m proud that I did not bother her and I did not harass her physically.

Good for you. And for anyone who failed in that respect, repent and own it, don’t go with the youthful indiscretion bullshit. I remember when something a conservative did in his late 40’s was called “youthful indiscretion”. It is a bullshit lame rationalizing for not owning up to behavior.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:01:10am

re: #286 Mike Lamb

I’m not sure I’ve been a good enough person in my life such that I’d get to see Donald Trump, Jr. indicted.

Oh man, I’d like that even more than Ivanka and Jared and I hate Javanka for their fakeness but Don Jr, Don Jr would be awesome.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:01:33am

So the top story on Fox News this hour is…what?

Panda sex? Avenatti’s pr0n habits? Hil’s emails?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:01:53am

re: #290 Old Liberal

Good for you. And for anyone who failed in that respect, repent and own it, don’t go with the youthful indiscretion bullshit. I remember when something a conservative did in his late 40’s was called “youthful indiscretion”. It is a bullshit lame rationalizing for not owning up to behavior.

Yes, you’re thinking of Henry Hyde who claimed that youthful indiscretion bs when he was moralizing about Bill Clinton’s affairs around the same age.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:02:59am

re: #292 makeitstop

So the top story on Fox News this hour is…what?

Panda sex? Avenatti’s pr0n habits? Hil’s emails?

Well yesterday it was some naive and frankly stupid British college lefties thinking the Gulags weren’t so bad. So today it will be why don’t the French thank America enough for the Allied liberation.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:03:14am

re: #292 makeitstop

Diane Feinstein’s “desperate attack” on Kavanaugh.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:03:39am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:03:50am

re: #292 makeitstop

So the top story on Fox News this hour is…what?

Panda sex? Avenatti’s pr0n habits? Hil’s emails?

For the hell of it I’ve been watching (supposed to be working from home…). Nothing on Manafort. It’s all Florence. But it’s Shep now, so he might do something on it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:04:16am

re: #295 jaunte

Diane Feinstein’s “desperate attack” on Kavanaugh.

“Come on, who among us didn’t try to lock a woman in a room with us while we were drunk and make her feel uncomfortable!”
“FRATERNITY GAGS!”
“PC RUN AMOK”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:05:16am

re: #296 jaunte

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He may have most of the time but he was apparently drunk when this happened. I’m sorry but if the R’s are going to try to act like Beto doesn’t belong in the Senate because of a DWI, then Kavanaugh needs to be questioned on this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:06:17am
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:06:34am

“But look at all the women he hasn’t attacked yet!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:07:34am
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:07:41am
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:07:43am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I really naively thought it was just Kavanaugh and a girlfriend yet to turn 18 having a fling out of their native Maryland. Where Kavanaugh grew up is very close to the DC and VA border. I’m sorry but this needs to be taken seriously. It speaks to how he treats people especially women and his character, which is something that has been spoken highly of.

i didnt just mean here on lgf
its the way things go these days - everybody guessing, amateur lawyering and opining about stuff they dont know
and often they dont know factually, and individually / intellectually. everyone’s an expert about everything.

this is just a good example that fortunately got outed in just one day

usually we dont even have the facts yet and we’re playing out 15 differnet scencarios 10 moves down the road. i do it too, and it’s sort of human nature.

meanwhile we’re doing Botham Jean. we still dont knwo all the facts. though i think we do know enough. and we are legitimately afraid ‘the facts’ will be manipulated.

mueller’s another great example. not a peep out of him. leakproof.
still everyone knows exactly what is going on in his office. with certainty. what his strategy is, how its going to end, etc. they are speculating. making it up. clueless.

i dont know. maybe i’m just saying we should keep this stuff in some sort of perspective as we all play along.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:08:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:08:45am

re: #301 jaunte

“But look at all the women he hasn’t attacked yet!”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:08:45am

re: #301 jaunte

“But look at all the women he hasn’t attacked yet!”

“No president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a supreme court nomination.”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:09:20am

re: #302 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Next—

“Too bad, Manafort was a good guy. Now a snitch and a flip. Very bad. Illegal. Was brave now not brave. Sad. “

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:11:24am

re: #307 Barefoot Grin

“No president has ever consulted more widely or talked with more people from more backgrounds to seek input about a supreme court nomination.”

Yeah great job vetting. That for both Trump and Bush’s team who have been telling us about what a boy scout this punk is.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:11:28am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:11:38am

re: #305 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This is big guys.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:13:05am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The canary is already singing

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Dear God, please… let him testify that during the Trump Tower collusion meeting, Manafort had an open phone line to the Pumpkin Pinochet. That as soon as the meeting ended, he went upstairs to speak to him directly about it. Amen.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:13:07am

re: #301 jaunte

“But look at all the women he hasn’t attacked yet!”

^^^ chicken dinner

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:14:05am

re: #300 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Masket tweet was the first thing that jumped out to me. They’ve known about this. The fact that they had this ready to go suggests to me that there is credibility to the allegations against Kavanaugh. This kind of character testimony is a pretty narrow reed on which to rely. I just fully expected the GOP to really lean into “That was so long ago. Why didn’t this come out earlier?” and other such tripe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:14:31am

re: #312 sagehen

Dear God, please… let him testify that during the Trump Tower collusion meeting, Manafort had an open phone line to the Pumpkin Pinochet. That as soon as the meeting ended, he went upstairs to speak to him directly about it. Amen.

I definitely think he’s going to give us a member of the Trump family.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:15:20am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:15:49am

re: #314 Mike Lamb

The Masket tweet was the first thing that jumped out to me. They’ve known about this. The fact that they had this ready to go suggests to me that there is credibility to the allegations against Kavanaugh. This kind of character testimony is a pretty narrow reed on which to rely.

Yeah I think if they weren’t worried about it, they would have let it leak out on its own. I definitely think there’s something here. And again, it’s another character strike against someone who we’re being told “Well you may not like his opinions but can’t we all agree that Brett should marry your daughter or sister.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:17:18am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

You’re talking about the GOP base. What about the rest of the population that isn’t the GOP base or Dem base. You don’t think that Mitt showing repeatedly from childhood to the present that he’d be the guy that would fire you and then chuckle about it. You are correctly about why Mitt did not strike a chord with the GOP base, what I am talking about is why Mitt did not strike a chord with the country. Little disappointed that you missed that part.

He was not half the asshole that Trump was, and that was his problem, Trump was a man who would hire you to do a job and then pay you pennies on the dollar.

The GOP just learned to fire up its base, gerrymander and suppress enough other voters that they needed to just top up that 27% of rabid Trump voters with another 20% or so of the voting public to gain an electoral majority

And it worked.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:19:10am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was not half the asshole that Trump was, and that was his problem, Trump was a man who would hire you to do a job and then pay you pennies on the dollar.

The GOP just learned to fire up its base, gerrymander and suppress enough other voters that they needed to just top up that 27% of rabid Trump voters with another 20% or so of the voting public to gain an electoral majority

And it worked.

Again, I am talking about why Romney lost not why Trump won. Yes, the GOP fired up its base but there’s a reason why Romney did in fact lose and you’re wrong if you think it was just that he was unable to fire up his base. And I disagree, Mitt and Trump are very similiar people. Maybe Mitt wouldn’t cheat on Ann but in many ways, he is a lot like Trump. Never forget that he grinned like a hyena the day Benghazi happened because he thought that was his ticket to the WH.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:20:01am

re: #305 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Judge Amy Berman Jackson says Manafort’s cooperation agreement includes:
-interviews and briefings he’ll give to the special counsel’s office
- turning over documents
- testifying in other proceedings

Damn. The Trump family is sca-rewed.

How long before we declare war on Venezuela?

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:20:15am

re: #316 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:21:50am

re: #321 jaunte

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Gorsuch wasn’t accused. Alito wasn’t accused. Roberts wasn’t accused. But nice try asshole. And maybe you shouldn’t nominate people like Thomas and Kavanaugh who apparently have a history of treating women like shit but I guess that’s too much to ask for your shitty ideology.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:22:35am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:22:43am

Pretty goddamn rich behavior form the party whose nominee brought a woman who was a rape victom of the man that HRC had to by her job as a PD defend crying about this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:22:53am
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:22:59am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Oddly enough, men who want to bend the laws to treat women like shit don’t have a problem treating women like shit.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:23:13am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is utterly meaningless. Even Jeffrey Dahmer could produce a list of people he DIDN’T murder. Republicans are grasping at straws to defend an indefensible candidate.

this is not about facts or the truth or character
and worse, it has absolutely nothing to do with jurisprudence - how he’d be as a judge

they never should have put thomas on the court
similar issue, not the same. and different time than now.
still - once his character came into question, it should have been disqualify city
this is the fucking supreme court
instead they held hearings, and created some sort of “truth” they could hang their collective hats on

kavanaugh, imo is in worse shape. because there is lots more in his past that is questinonable. you have to sort out the ‘truth’ of each and every issue
so once we get into this letter, the credit card debt, the questinos about perjury, and on and on, it should be a no go. he’s not suitable
the fucking supreme court

they should be spending weeks and weeks going over opinions, philosophy, perspective - you know, how he’d behave in the job

instead its this nonsense to rehabilitate so much obviously questionable life and ‘character’

the process, and so the court is a fucking joke

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:23:19am

re: #323 electrotek

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Australia from what I understand has always had a bit of a racism problem.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:24:19am

The Republicans are the one who made Kavanaugh’s character a big part of why he should be confirmed even though he’s been a Republican party gofer for years.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:24:52am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Again, I am talking about why Romney lost not why Trump won. Yes, the GOP fired up its base but there’s a reason why Romney did in fact lose and you’re wrong if you think it was just that he was unable to fire up his base. And I disagree, Mitt and Trump are very similiar people. Maybe Mitt wouldn’t cheat on Ann but in many ways, he is a lot like Trump. Never forget that he grinned like a hyena the day Benghazi happened because he thought that was his ticket to the WH.

Romney lost because

1) Russia didn’t like him and didn’t want to help him; and
2) the vote-flipping software in Ohio didn’t work as well as Karl Rove expected

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:24:55am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Australia from what I understand has always had a bit of a racism problem.

This is a country where a decade before the rise of Trump, had their horrifying race riots where 5,000 drunk white Australian men went on a rampage and started beating anybody that looked remotely Middle Eastern. They were also attacking police and ambulances as well! Recall the Cronulla Beach riots?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:25:31am

oh, and I’m placing my money on Jr being the one Manafort is giving up.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:25:42am

re: #331 electrotek

This is a country where a decade before the rise of Trump, had their horrifying race riots where 5,000 drunk white Australian men went on a rampage and started beating anybody that looked remotely Middle Eastern. They were also attacking police and ambulances as well! Recall the Cronulla Beach riots?

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I don’t but remember I’m younger than you are.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:25:44am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Gorsuch wasn’t accused. Alito wasn’t accused. Roberts wasn’t accused. But nice try asshole. And maybe you shouldn’t nominate people like Thomas and Kavanaugh who apparently have a history of treating women like shit but I guess that’s too much to ask for your shitty ideology.

i just ranted below, er above.
you said it shorter and better

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:26:05am

re: #321 jaunte

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So how many CYA letters do they have in the files “just in case”?

Here’s a letter from 65 people that say Kavanaugh doesn’t kick puppies.

Here’s a letter from 65 people that say Kavanaugh is a good tipper.

Here’s a letter from 65 people that say Kavanaugh smells fantastic.

Here’s a letter from 65 people that say Kavanaugh has great penmanship.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:27:07am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Australia from what I understand has always had a bit of a racism problem.

There were no aborigines available for comment…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:27:09am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, and I’m placing my money on Jr being the one Manafort is giving up.

Show me Manafort and you got Don Jr.
Show me Don Jr and you got Jared.
Show me Jared and you got Pence
Show me Pence and you got Ivanka
Show me Ivanka and you got Daddy.
War’s over. Sorry I was thinking of that conversation that Tom Sizemore and Tom Hanks have in Saving Private Ryan.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:27:21am

re: #334 dangerman

i just ranted below, er above.
you said it shorter and better

Thanks man.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:27:47am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

I don’t but remember I’m younger than you are.

You would have recalled since it was huge news in December 2005, even Fox News didn’t utilize their usual slant when they covered the riots stateside:

American news take on Cronulla

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:28:45am

re: #339 electrotek

You would have recalled since it was huge news in December 2005, even Fox News didn’t utilize their usual slant when they covered the riots stateside:

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December 2005, I was still getting used to my first year of community college and not really paying as much to current events as I should have. I honestly had no idea about this.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:29:04am

re: #336 Mike Lamb

There were no aborigines available for comment…

Eastern and Southern Europeans underwent major racism when they first settled in the country from the 1950s onward, being called a wog over and over.

Even Polish-Australians are considered wogs over there, which is very odd.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:29:52am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

The Republicans are the one who made Kavanaugh’s character a big part of why he should be confirmed even though he’s been a Republican party gofer for years.

I’ll put it this way: I’m hoping this is the one thing that causes the wavering Democrats and two Republicans to listen to their aides, who will listen and record messages from their constituents, who suddenly decide that something done in high school 35 years ago should be enough to keep him off the court.

Part of the success of the #metoo movement has been that the people who’ve been ousted have run around in otherwise Democratic areas. Hollywood is liberal. The head of CBS may be conservative, but there are a lot of liberals.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:31:02am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Again, I am talking about why Romney lost not why Trump won. Yes, the GOP fired up its base but there’s a reason why Romney did in fact lose and you’re wrong if you think it was just that he was unable to fire up his base. And I disagree, Mitt and Trump are very similiar people. Maybe Mitt wouldn’t cheat on Ann but in many ways, he is a lot like Trump. Never forget that he grinned like a hyena the day Benghazi happened because he thought that was his ticket to the WH.

He lost because he was a politician and judged by those standards. Trump was the anti-politician, he could get away with things that no other career politician could.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:31:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:32:19am

re: #341 electrotek

Eastern and Southern Europeans underwent major racism when they first settled in the country from the 1950s onward, being called a wog over and over.

Even Polish-Australians are considered wogs over there, which is very odd.

Look at how Polish emigrants to the UK are being treated. I say what Eastern European immigrants to the UK is very very analogous to what Hispanics go through here right down to their shared Catholicism and delicious food which makes me all the more disappointed to see descendants of those EE immigrants here including some of my own cousins being Know-Nothings on immigration.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:33:18am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, and I’m placing my money on Jr being the one Manafort is giving up.

I’m with you. What am I bet that his Twitter account will suddenly get extremely quiet?

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:33:29am

re: #125 dangerman

One way or another almost everyone in this country is committing some sort of “illegal” act in their own home

She was off duty…she was not working. No warrant no cause no work related nothing
No justification
And she didn’t know about the pot (assuming)

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:33:48am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

Giuliani in first statement after Manafort plea deal:

“the President did nothing wrong and Paul Manafort will tell the truth.”

Giuliani in revised statement after Manafort plea deal:

“the President did nothing wrong.”

They’re so bad at this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:34:13am

re: #343 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He lost because he was a politician and judged by those standards. Trump was the anti-politician, he could get away with things that no other career politician could.

Obama was a politician who you know won. Trump benefited from two things that you never seem to consider: pathological hatred of HRC that has gone back decades and isn’t limited to the right and a little help from Russia. People may not have seen through Trump’s bullshit but they did Romney’s. Romney is a bullshit person too.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:34:31am
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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:34:50am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

Look at how Polish emigrants to the UK are being treated. I say what Eastern European immigrants to the UK is very very analogous to what Hispanics go through here right down to their shared Catholicism and delicious food which makes me all the more disappointed to see descendants of those EE immigrants here including some of my own cousins being Know-Nothings on immigration.

Which is quite baffling because unlike Hispanics, Eastern Europeans are majority white and bear little distinction from their Anglo-Saxon counterparts.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:35:57am

re: #350 jaunte

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LOL, you’re going to be speaking a different tune when he implicates your boss’s sons, daughter, or son in law. Maybe you’ll eventually join them too Sarah or you’ll just be permanently unemployable except at Evangelical Circle Jerks where you guys cry about how persecuted you are.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:36:09am

re: #341 electrotek

Eastern and Southern Europeans underwent major racism when they first settled in the country from the 1950s onward, being called a wog over and over.

Even Polish-Australians are considered wogs over there, which is very odd.

I studied abroad in Sydney in the Fall of ‘96. Fortunately, I didn’t notice much racism, and the area where I was living, Coogee Beach, was pretty diverse (as was my group of friends).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:36:36am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:37:34am

re: #351 electrotek

Which is quite baffling because unlike Hispanics, Eastern Europeans are majority white and bear little distinction from their Anglo-Saxon counterparts.

Yeah but remember, Britain historically is much more Protestant than we are so hostility to the Slavs Catholicism may be playing a role too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:38:19am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This makes me despise Bibi and his government even more.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:39:31am

I should clarify I mean Bibi’s cabinet and him not every last member of the Knesset.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:39:34am

re: #350 jaunte

“This had absolutely nothing to do with the President or his victorious 2016 Presidential campaign. It is totally unrelated.”

For now.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:40:11am

re: #323 electrotek

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A reminder of the last time Australian racism was a worldwide story:

cnn.com

Harry Connick Jr. was visibly dismayed after watching an insensitive skit performance on an Australian show.

The “Jackson Jive” performed the song “Can You Feel It” Wednesday wearing huge black wigs, blackface and one spangled glove each. The Michael Jackson impersonator wore whiteface.

Connick was one of the judges on the program, a special edition of the Australian variety show “Hey Hey It’s Saturday,” which aired Wednesday.

“If they turned up looking like that in the United States,” he said, frowning, “Hey, hey, there’s no more show.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:41:21am

re: #359 sagehen

A reminder of the last time Australian racism was a worldwide story:

cnn.com

I do remember that incident because it gave me made respect for Harry Connick, Jr. Unfortunately 9 years later, Harry may be right that show would be canceled but there would be a big uproar if it was.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:41:57am
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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:42:13am

re: #353 Mike Lamb

I studied abroad in Sydney in the Fall of ‘96. Fortunately, I didn’t notice much racism, and the area where I was living, Coogee Beach, was pretty diverse (as was my group of friends).

I made a lot of great friends there in 2008 and I still keep in touch with many of them (also quite diverse as well).

But there were a couple of instances that stood out for me. I was on a train to Sydney CBD and there were these two white Aussie girls that struck up a conversation with me after they heard my accent. They asked me how are the *n-word in plural* over in America, and I was just caught aghast at how they could ever ask me a question. I was just speechless and I had no idea on how to react because even back then I could NEVER imagine anyone using the n-word in public in America. So to hear it on a fucking train ride directed towards me in a question, it was a shock that was too much to bear.

I wish I would have made a statement and went off on them, but the shock was too much for me at the time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:42:27am

Don Jr is the domino here.

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:43:03am
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:43:53am

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:44:19am

re: #362 electrotek

I made a lot of great friends there in 2008 and I still keep in touch with many of them (also quite diverse as well).

But there were a couple of instances that stood out for me. I was on a train to Sydney CBD and there were these two white Aussie girls that struck up a conversation with me after they heard my accent. They asked me how are the *n-word in plural* over in America, and I was just caught aghast at how they could ever ask me a question. I was just speechless and I had no idea on how to react because even back then I could NEVER imagine anyone using the n-word in public in America. So to hear it on a fucking train ride directed towards me in a question, it was a shock that was too much to bear.

I wish I would have made a statement and went off on them, but the shock was too much for me at the time.

I fortunately haven’t encountered that kind of racism with the Aussies I’ve met when I’ve traveled but most people who tend to travel tend to be more open minded people. I am still smiling thinking about the two girls from Canada who I met on a pub crawl and am actually FB friends finding out I didn’t like Trump going “Good, because we didn’t think we could like you if we found out you liked or voted for Trump.” I got a good laugh out of that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:44:58am

re: #365 dangerman

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He did it while black, the bastard.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:46:19am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:46:25am
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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:46:26am
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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:46:50am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

I fortunately haven’t encountered that kind of racism with the Aussies I’ve met when I’ve traveled but most people who tend to travel tend to be more open minded people. I am still smiling thinking about the two girls from Canada who I met on a pub crawl and am actually FB friends finding out I didn’t like Trump going “Good, because we didn’t think we could like you if we found out you liked or voted for Trump.” I got a good laugh out of that.

I’m pretty open about my hatred of Trump so even more so if I had gone overseas since Trump won (which I haven’t yet).

Speaking of Canadians, I did troll a couple of Canadian girls on a tour bus in Melbourne back then. I saw they were wearing backpacks with Canadian flag patches. I asked them if they could include the American flag patch to show how we are united with one another. Their reaction? A big fat NO in a raised voice and I was like oh shit I’m going to shut up now hahahahaha they already knew I was from Texas anyways so that didn’t help matters hahaha

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:47:20am

Robert Mueller is a big part of the glue holding America together right now.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:47:41am

re: #369 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Why don’t they try pulling that in Compton or Inglewood?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:48:19am

re: #350 jaunte

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this is exactly the same parsing of words as 3000 puerto ricans didnt die in the hurricane

campaign manager taking a plea may have nothing to do with the campaign
beause the accusations on which he caved may be unrelated to the campaign

but follow this, sarah.
that unrelated plea squeezed him enough to talk
about other things
some of which may be about the campaign, and other, other things

are you really that dumb, sarah?

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:48:37am
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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:49:07am

re: #166 makeitstop

Well, to a degree he was…

‘Accept the plea deal or we’ll go to trial and you’ll be sentenced to prison for the rest of your life.’

Dude’s 69 years old. If convicted, he’d die in prison. So there’s that.

Not to mention that his daughter already petitioned to change her name she is so embarrassed by the “blood money” her father took (her words).

Heckova legacy.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:49:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:50:04am

re: #367 HappyWarrior

He did it while black, the bastard.

And he was living in a neighborhood with other white people, which is, of course, just asking for it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:50:25am

re: #368 jaunte

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And Cornyn just isn’t any Republican Senator. He’s the number 2. Great job showing you care Johnny. You know the truth about the letter but you choose to lie about it because you know that Kavanaugh when you get him confirmed is going to give you everything you’ve fantasized about ruining our society for years with his twisted interpretation of the law not due to the Constitution but to the RNC’s platform. Fuck you and fuck Babyface Brett Kavanaugh.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:51:48am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:52:50am

re: #371 electrotek

I’m pretty open about my hatred of Trump so even more so if I had gone overseas since Trump won (which I haven’t yet).

Speaking of Canadians, I did troll a couple of Canadian girls on a tour bus in Melbourne back then. I saw they were wearing backpacks with Canadian flag patches. I asked them if they could include the American flag patch to show how we are united with one another. Their reaction? A big fat NO in a raised voice and I was like oh shit I’m going to shut up now hahahahaha they already knew I was from Texas anyways so that didn’t help matters hahaha

Yeah I don’t hide it. I usually go to places where I’m likely to be the only American. I was the only American at the hostel in Bratislava so it was natural that I got a lot of questions when I said I was American. I never hide it. Why should I have to hide my national identity because Trump’s an asshole. This is our country too and was long before he decided to ruin ti.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:53:22am

re: #375 gocart mozart

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This would be the same Ben Shapiro who opposed Chuck Hagel as SecDef and made up the “Friends of Hamas” story to justify said opposition?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:54:28am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

Yeah I don’t hide it. I usually go to places where I’m likely to be the only American. I was the only American at the hostel in Bratislava so it was natural that I got a lot of questions when I said I was American. I never hide it. Why should I have to hide my national identity because Trump’s an asshole. This is our country too and was long before he decided to ruin ti.

As our village’s token American, I simply oint out that I do not find him qualified for the office, either in terms of experience or character.

I leave others to carry on with the rest of the comments.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:54:40am

re: #375 gocart mozart

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Oh of course that asshole Shapiro is involved. I’m really starting to hate the Israeli government big time. They need to purge their right just as much as we do from positions of damaging influence and Bibi’s spokesman is apparently a rapist too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:54:58am

re: #382 sagehen

This would be the same Ben Shapiro who opposed Chuck Hagel as SecDef and made up the “Friends of Hamas” story to justify said opposition?

Yep the same little twerp. I hate that asshole.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:55:26am

re: #383 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As our village’s token American, I simply oint out that I do not find him qualified for the office, either in terms of experience or character.

I leave others to carry on with the rest of the comments.

Only thing is that Trump gets the support from the far-right dumbshits in Europe and Australia that would have never supported Bush to begin with.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:56:02am

re: #383 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As our village’s token American, I simply oint out that I do not find him qualified for the office, either in terms of experience or character.

I leave others to carry on with the rest of the comments.

More power to you but I use my healthy vocabulary of four letter words. They need to know that not everyone is a Pepe Frog stupid hand signaling dickhead and since I’m a white guy, I feel extra obligated.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:56:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:56:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:56:50am

re: #386 electrotek

Only thing is that Trump gets the support from the far-right dumbshits in Europe and Australia that would have never supported Bush to begin with.

there is a site full of “Putinversteher” (moonofalabama.org) who also hate Hillary so much that they seem to have little or no trouble with Trump

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:56:53am

re: #386 electrotek

Only thing is that Trump gets the support from the far-right dumbshits in Europe and Australia that would have never supported Bush to begin with.

Yeah in fact, the far right in Europe and around the world actually hated Bush. I know a lot of liberals don’t like knowing that but they hated him. For the wrong reasons mind you but they stil lhated him.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:58:03am

re: #391 HappyWarrior

Yeah in fact, the far right in Europe and around the world actually hated Bush. I know a lot of liberals don’t like knowing that but they hated him. For the wrong reasons mind you but they stil lhated him.

I know they hated Bush because they seriously felt he wasn’t anti-Muslim enough!

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:58:39am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 9:59:57am

Manafort I think is going to give us a lot of insight into how the disinformation bs works. And I am beyond furious how the American and Israeli right sold Ukraine out like this. Ukraine had the potential to be a very important ally in the former Eastern bloc. I didn’t like Bush but he did get that building alliances with the former Eastern Bloc nations was a good thing to do. Perhaps some of it was cynical to gain support for the invasion of Iraq but at least he wasn’t undermining their governments by collaborating with Putin directly or indirectly.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:00:11am

re: #392 electrotek

I know they hated Bush because they seriously felt he wasn’t anti-Muslim enough!

And because he had JEWS!//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:00:27am

re: #393 jaunte

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Newt may have actually told the truth for ocne.

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:00:42am

re: #231 makeitstop

Kavanaugh sounds pretty creepy. No wonder Trump likes him.

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Just what I was saying last night. The original article did not make it sound consensual. This is crossing state lines to commit rape/sexual assault.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:01:11am

re: #397 MsJ

Just what I was saying last night. The original article did not make it sound consensual. This is crossing state lines to commit rape/sexual assault.

I’d like to apologize. I really thought it was something much more innocent.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:01:13am

re: #395 HappyWarrior

And because he had JEWS!//

Republicans love to run away when you point out the fact that their beloved Le Pen were not only opposed to their Iraq war, but actually were BFF’s with Saddam as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:01:46am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:02:38am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Again, I am talking about why Romney lost not why Trump won. Yes, the GOP fired up its base but there’s a reason why Romney did in fact lose and you’re wrong if you think it was just that he was unable to fire up his base. And I disagree, Mitt and Trump are very similiar people. Maybe Mitt wouldn’t cheat on Ann but in many ways, he is a lot like Trump. Never forget that he grinned like a hyena the day Benghazi happened because he thought that was his ticket to the WH.

You are wrong about Mitt being similar to Trump, except in wanting to enrich the rich. Romney spoke in complete and coherent sentences, did not openly disparage people because of their race or religion, had a record of real accomplishments as governor, had wealth that he earned (maybe by firing people but not by refusing to pay those who worked for him), understood policy and was in fact the one who was responsible for showing that the ACA could succeed because he implemented it first. Trump appealed to the worst in America; Mitt would not do that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:02:46am

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m Jewish but all I can say about this is Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:03:11am

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The canary is already singing

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Like Pavarotti.

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ericblair  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:04:05am

re: #383 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As our village’s token American, I simply oint out that I do not find him qualified for the office, either in terms of experience or character.

I leave others to carry on with the rest of the comments.

I’m overseas as well, open about being American, and open about the fact that I want to see Trump die in prison. A lot of people in the world are used to dealing with good people from countries with shit governments, more so than in North America. So whatever crap your government is doing, it doesn’t reflect on you, and moreover since you’re not living in your home country it’s more likely you’re some level of dissident.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:04:46am

re: #397 MsJ

Just what I was saying last night. The original article did not make it sound consensual. This is crossing state lines to commit rape/sexual assault.

It doesn’t sound like there were any state lines involved. It read to me like an attempted rape, foiled because she had the skills to fight her way out of it (and them being drunk made her fighting more effective).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:06:00am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:06:17am

re: #399 electrotek

Republicans love to run away when you point out the fact that their beloved Le Pen were not only opposed to their Iraq war, but actually were BFF’s with Saddam as well.

Yep there’s a lot lot of intersection with Eurofascists and people like Saddam, Nasser, etc because these guys hated Jews first and now hate Arabs and Muslims too. It makes the small minority of Jews like Shapiro, Bibi, etc who help their goals all the more infuriating.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:06:32am

re: #405 sagehen

It doesn’t sound like there were any state lines involved. It read to me like an attempted rape, foiled because she had the skills to fight her way out of it (and them being drunk made her fighting more effective).

Or to the right, a simple case of boys will be boys.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:06:47am

re: #400 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Also, drop a dime. (which anybody old enough to have used pay phones understands; the youngers are puzzled by the expression and will make you explain it).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:08:25am

re: #401 Hecuba’s daughter

You are wrong about Mitt being similar to Trump, except in wanting to enrich the rich. Romney spoke in complete and coherent sentences, did not openly disparage people because of their race or religion, had a record of real accomplishments as governor, had wealth that he earned (maybe by firing people but not by refusing to pay those who worked for him), understood policy and was in fact the one who was responsible for showing that the ACA could succeed because he implemented it first. Trump appealed to the worst in America; Mitt would not do that.

I really respectfully disagree. I can’t forget that Mitt brought Kobach on board and even now as a Senate hopeful is claiming to be to Trump’s right on the issue. I’m sorry but with respect I think you and Wendell are ignoring some terrible parts of Mitt’s character that he showed six years ago.

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ericblair  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:09:08am

re: #402 The Vicious Babushka

I’m Jewish but all I can say about this is Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Seriously, does anybody have a good read on how this is going to play in Israel, if Manafort openly cops to it? Yawn, disbelief, major political crisis?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:09:37am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:10:24am

re: #411 ericblair

Seriously, does anybody have a good read on how this is going to play in Israel, if Manafort openly cops to it? Yawn, disbelief, major political crisis?

And we have the stories about Bibi’s spokesman too. Maybe this finally ends Bibis career in Israel but I have no idea who would replace him.

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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:10:50am

re: #231 makeitstop

Kavanaugh sounds pretty creepy. No wonder Trump likes him.

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First of all, this is no surprise. It’s disgusting but no surprise.

Second, he’s going to get a pass, due to his age at the time. It doesn’t matter that he was p*ssy grabbing. *sigh*

I kind of wish it had been a guy, so that we could see the religious right squirm before saying “it was a youthful mistake” and giving him a pass. (To be very clear, I am not on favor of assaults.) I was also holding out some hope for some sort of youthful pre-internet gambling scandal, but I guess not.

I will be very surprised if anything comes of this. It’s not as if he was her youth pastor who took her down a dark road and told her to give him a blow job. It took a lot of publicity to push Andy Savage out of his church and a lot of people at his church were pissed off at the woman who came forward.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:11:21am

re: #380 gocart mozart

the Trump-Russia conspiracy was in fact a *five-nation grand bargain* involving the United States, Russia, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Israel.

I’ve long thought that the plan was to forge a new alliance, with three nuclear powers - US, Russia and Israel - in order to conquer the world.

But now all that celebrating in Saudi Arabia, with the hands on the globe and all the dancing - seems to make more sense now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:11:25am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:11:51am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:12:38am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All it takes is one person. There have been plenty of killers who had people not believe they were capable of such a thing. I’m not saying they’re lying about their experiences with him, I am saying that this just tells us he was good to 65 women and I’m not buying that he’s a person of high character anymore after seeing the shit he did for Starr.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:12:47am

re: #407 HappyWarrior

Yep there’s a lot lot of intersection with Eurofascists and people like Saddam, Nasser, etc because these guys hated Jews first and now hate Arabs and Muslims too. It makes the small minority of Jews like Shapiro, Bibi, etc who help their goals all the more infuriating.

Christ, I’m arguing with an Israeli girl on Instagram via DM’s. I asked her how she can be fine with Trump loving Israel when he restricts abortion rights for women and rolls back LGBT rights stateside.

Her response?

I don’t live there.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:13:35am

re: #413 HappyWarrior

And we have the stories about Bibi’s spokesman too. Maybe this finally ends Bibis career in Israel but I have no idea who would replace him.

Israel does not have a 2-party system. There are literally dozens of political parties, many of which are single issue. The party that wins a plurality of the vote then has to form a coalition.

Bibi has the support of other right-wing and religious parties that are even more extreme than he is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:14:01am

re: #417 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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A long time I bet. Remember he went to an all boys high school. They knew this was coming.

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gwangung  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:14:21am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

All it takes is one person. There have been plenty of killers who had people not believe they were capable of such a thing. I’m not saying they’re lying about their experiences with him, I am saying that this just tells us he was good to 65 women and I’m not buying that he’s a person of high character anymore after seeing the shit he did for Starr.

There were plenty of women Les Moonves met that he didn’t shove his down their throats…but he’s still a creepy sexual harasser.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:14:21am

re: #419 electrotek

Christ, I’m arguing with an Israeli girl on Instagram via DM’s. I asked her how she can be fine with Trump loving Israel when he restricts abortion rights for women and rolls back LGBT rights stateside.

Her response?

I don’t live there.

Must be nice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:16:45am

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

Israel does not have a 2-party system. There are literally dozens of political parties, many of which are single issue. The party that wins a plurality of the vote then has to form a coalition.

Bibi has the support of other right-wing and religious parties that are even more extreme than he is.

That scares the bejesus outta me VB because I think Bibi single handily is responsible for Israel’s perception problem to many. I will never forgive him for the disgusting way he treated Obama by showing Glenn Beck more respect and deference and now Duterte in the Phillappines.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:16:50am

re: #419 electrotek

Christ, I’m arguing with an Israeli girl on Instagram via DM’s. I asked her how she can be fine with Trump loving Israel when he restricts abortion rights for women and rolls back LGBT rights stateside.

Her response?

I don’t live there.

Some people are just rotten, and don’t give a crap about anyone outside their own families.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:17:47am

re: #425 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Some people are just rotten, and don’t give a crap about anyone outside their own families.

Some people don’t even care about that.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:18:36am

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

Israel does not have a 2-party system. There are literally dozens of political parties, many of which are single issue. The party that wins a plurality of the vote then has to form a coalition.

Bibi has the support of other right-wing and religious parties that are even more extreme than he is.

Is there still an Islamic party in the Knesset over there?

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:19:58am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Must be nice.

To a certain extent, isn’t that the basis of our alliance with the Saudis? They’re terrible human rights absuers, and we really probably shouldn’t count them among our most important allies… yet, they serve a useful/strategic purpose.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:21:36am

re: #428 KGxvi

To a certain extent, isn’t that the basis of our alliance with the Saudis? They’re terrible human rights absuers, and we really probably shouldn’t count them among our most important allies… yet, they serve a useful/strategic purpose.

Yeah and that’s bothered me for years.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:22:08am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

All it takes is one person. There have been plenty of killers who had people not believe they were capable of such a thing. I’m not saying they’re lying about their experiences with him, I am saying that this just tells us he was good to 65 women and I’m not buying that he’s a person of high character anymore after seeing the shit he did for Starr.

The appearance of impropriety used to be enough

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:22:15am
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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:22:29am

re: #427 electrotek

Is there still an Islamic party in the Knesset over there?

There’s four, they ran as an alliance last time, called the Joint List, and ended up with the third largest block in the Knesset.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:23:16am

Attn VB:

Bridge troll sighting in Trumpworld.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:23:20am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:23:50am

re: #432 KGxvi

There’s four, they ran as an alliance last time, called the Joint List, and ended up with the third largest block in the Knesset.

Interesting name; It reminds me of my plans for this evening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:24:13am

re: #433 lawhawk

Attn VB:

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Bridge troll sighting in Trumpworld.

Infrastructure Week again!

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:24:15am

re: #432 KGxvi

There’s four, they ran as an alliance last time, called the Joint List, and ended up with the third largest block in the Knesset.

Got it. I haven’t kept up in-depth with Israeli politics for a long time, which is hard to do given the rise of Trumpism in our own turf.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:26:58am

This is a good day for Mike Pence to resign.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:27:19am

re: #437 electrotek

Got it. I haven’t kept up in-depth with Israeli politics for a long time, which is hard to do given the rise of Trumpism in our own turf.

I had just looked it up yesterday, as I was careening down a rabbit hole. They’ve had a lot of weird alliances and realignments in the last few cycles. And during that time, Bibi has done his best Littlefinger impression - chaos is a ladder.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:28:05am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:28:07am

re: #438 jaunte

This is a good day for Mike Pence to resign.

Think Manafort gives him up?

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:28:20am

re: #438 jaunte

This is a good day for Mike Pence to resign.

Well, it is a day that ends in “y”… so yeah. But I’d rather he wait until after January, when Democrats can have more of a say in who his replacement would be.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:32:47am

Your Daily Simon

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:34:46am

re: #15 sagehen

I’ve been pulled over for smoking a pipe while driving, where the cop could see it. He wrote me a ticket; he did not search my car. So yeah, I believe white privilege is a real thing.

God damn right it is. I got chased* by the po po once to the point that they set up a roadblock, and here I am alive and unharmed.

*I had a good reason to keep going I swear

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:37:13am

re: #424 HappyWarrior

That scares the bejesus outta me VB because I think Bibi single handily is responsible for Israel’s perception problem to many. I will never forgive him for the disgusting way he treated Obama by showing Glenn Beck more respect and deference and now Duterte in the Phillappines.

re: #420 The Vicious Babushka

Israel does not have a 2-party system. There are literally dozens of political parties, many of which are single issue. The party that wins a plurality of the vote then has to form a coalition.

Bibi has the support of other right-wing and religious parties that are even more extreme than he is.

Bibi is the same as Trump, except with 100 more IQ points and knowledge of policy. I’ve hated him since the 1990’s when his invective inspired a religious fanatic to assassinate Rabin, thus destroying perhaps the last true chance at peace in the region.

Like Trump, he is not religious but to retain power he has to compromise with the religious parties, turning much of Israel over to religious fanatics who want a theocracy, just like the fundamentalists here.

There are no term limits in Israel — and he is a man who wants power forever.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:40:12am

Who wants to bet that, according to Trump, Mueller’s investigation will suddenly jump in cost by at least $26M?

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:41:08am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:41:23am

re: #434 Backwoods_Sleuth

“What you think everyone of my friends and coffee assistants who pleads guilty and says in a courtroom that he/she did all these bad things is guilty? Witch hunt! Lock Her Up!”

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:42:46am

I believe this joke was done before, but it’s most certainly worth doing again:

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:43:14am

re: #443 gocart mozart

Ok, this annoys me. Bezos’s wealth is mostly tied up in his Amazon stock. It’s not like he’s got a Scrooge McDuck vault full of $156b worth of c-notes. He can’t actually spend much of it either - if he sells a significant amount of Amazon stock, he has to report it to the SEC, and that information becomes public and could result in Amazon stock prices falling. And Amazon doesn’t issue dividends, so he’s not even gaining income that way either. He’s basically trapped by his own success.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:45:19am

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hanssen, the original victim of the Russia Hoax witch-hunt.

/

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:47:46am

No tweets yet? Maybe they slipped some Thorazine into his Big Mac…

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:48:47am

re: #452 makeitstop

No tweets yet? Maybe they slipped some Thorazine into his Big Mac…

They’ve tuned all the White House TVs to the weather channel to keep him focused on Florance

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:51:50am

re: #453 KGxvi

They’ve tuned all the White House TVs to the weather channel to keep him focused on Florance

Fox has to figure out how to report it and bury it.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:51:51am
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:53:57am
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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:54:34am

re: #443 gocart mozart

Your Daily Simon

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I can appreciate Simon most of the time, but I feel like this was unnecessary. Yes, Bezos should pay more in taxes, but donating $2B for this project is a really good thing. That should be the focus for the time being.

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:54:48am

In which a 15-year-old girl displays more wisdom than all the GOPers and willfully obtuse MSM pundits put together:

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:55:09am

re: #455 jaunte

Imagine the time and resources it took to track down ALL 65 women. Interview to assure he hadn’t harmed any, then convince them to sign said letter

I wouldn’t be too surprised if there were more than a handful of fake names on that list of signees.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:55:56am

re: #455 jaunte

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Even more so given that he went to an all boys high school. They definitely knew about this and I definitely think there’s something to it. It can’t be ignored and it sure as shit can’t be brushed “Oh these other 65 women said he was fine.” Ted Bundy worked to stop people from killing themselves and tons of people including the crime writer Ann Rule thought he was a great guy and then they found he was a serial killer. This isn’t to compare what Kavanaugh did to murder but to point out that people like that can and do hide in plain sight. I don’t disbelieve these 65 women but I don’t discount the woman who says Kavanaugh did what she says he did either.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:56:28am

re: #458 Interesting Times

In which a 15-year-old girl displays more wisdom than all the GOPers and willfully obtuse MSM pundits put together:

[Embedded content]

Bingo.

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Alephnaught  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:02:30am

re: #452 makeitstop

No tweets yet? Maybe they slipped some Thorazine into his Big Mac…

Well, when both Manafort and Cohen were convicted on the same day a few Fridays ago, @HoarseWhisperer on Twitter predicted, using his knowledge of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, that Trump, rather than rage-tweeting, would actually be rather subdued for some time, until he could find something else to rant about. This theory was kind of validated by his lackluster at his rally later that day. So maybe this a similar dynamic we’re seeing here.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:08:20am

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Al Franken got one of those letters, too.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:08:44am

re: #460 HappyWarrior

Even more so given that he went to an all boys high school. They definitely knew about this and I definitely think there’s something to it. It can’t be ignored and it sure as shit can’t be brushed “Oh these other 65 women said he was fine.” Ted Bundy worked to stop people from killing themselves and tons of people including the crime writer Ann Rule thought he was a great guy and then they found he was a serial killer. This isn’t to compare what Kavanaugh did to murder but to point out that people like that can and do hide in plain sight. I don’t disbelieve these 65 women but I don’t discount the woman who says Kavanaugh did what she says he did either.

“he did this to me”
“well, here’s 65 character witnesses who say he couldnt”
iow - we say you’re a liar

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:10:41am

re: #463 Barefoot Grin

Al Franken got one of those letters, too.

not the same!! he voluntarily resigned //

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:14:57am

re: #440 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

emptywheel.net

So here’s what Robert Mueller just did: He sewed up the key witness to implicate the President, and he paid for the entire investigation. And it’s only now lunch time.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:17:20am

re: #443 gocart mozart

Your Daily Simon

[Embedded content]

“I like to pay taxes. With them, I buy civilization.”
― Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:21:35am

re: #450 KGxvi

Ok, this annoys me. Bezos’s wealth is mostly tied up in his Amazon stock. It’s not like he’s got a Scrooge McDuck vault full of $156b worth of c-notes. He can’t actually spend much of it either - if he sells a significant amount of Amazon stock, he has to report it to the SEC, and that information becomes public and could result in Amazon stock prices falling. And Amazon doesn’t issue dividends, so he’s not even gaining income that way either. He’s basically trapped by his own success.

This is what I point out to people who claim inheritance tax is some kind of double taxation — “they paid taxes on the money when they earned it, why should they pay again?!?”

Except they didn’t pay taxes when they earned it; all the wealthiest people, their net worth is almost entirely unrealized capital gains that have never been taxed. That’s why when they die, their kids should pay taxes on it.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:25:58am

re: #459 makeitstop

I wouldn’t be too surprised if there were more than a handful of fake names on that list of signees.


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