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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:55:33am
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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:56:39am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:56:57am

re: #1 jaunte

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This is right on.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:57:54am
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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:58:49am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 10:58:57am

re: #4 jaunte

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As much as I hate to say it, he will sink even lower because that’s the kind of man he is.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:00:10am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

As much as I hate to say it, he will sink even lower because that’s the kind of man he is.

There is no bottom. I hope he is having a screaming tantrum about the news that Manafort is going to cooperate with Mueller.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:00:20am

re: #5 gocart mozart

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Listen if it’s just an autograph that says God, I fell for that one too before I realize it made no sense for God to put a title happy face in his o for his signature.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:00:46am

re: #7 Big Beautiful Door

There is no bottom. I hope he is having a screaming tantrum about the news that Manafort is going to cooperate with Mueller.

You know he is and we’re going to hear another report about how miserable and angry he is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:01:01am

“Let’s put it this way - I like fathers who DON’T die alone in the dark without their medications. Okay?”
//, but angrily.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:01:17am

Guliani: “Once again an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with the president or his campaign.”

Especially since the plea-maker was just a coffee boy.

/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:01:27am
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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:02:03am

Worst tweet so far.

And today’s news isn’t going to help Trump’s disposition either.

Everyone in Trump’s inner circle is now legally and officially fucked (legal term).

Manafort isn’t flipping on anyone below him. He flips on those above him. That means Trump, Junior, Ivanka, Eric, Kushner… and oh yeah, Pence too.

Every last one of them is in real trouble, because of what Manafort knows and what Mueller needed from him.

Think of it another way, Manafort’s plea deal means he gives up $46 million in ill gotten gains. Mueller’s case was airtight. That’s how easy it was for Mueller to get Manafort to flip. And Mueller kept the details secret until the last moment too. They’ve got this down to a science on keeping the investigation plowing along and grabbing the receipts as they go.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:02:25am

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I guess DeSantis is finding out the hard way that there’s more ot winning races than running ads that pretty much say you love Donald Trump more than your own children.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:03:43am

re: #8 HappyWarrior

Listen if it’s just an autograph that says God, I fell for that one too before I realize it made no sense for God to put a title happy face in his o for his signature.

So, you are the Christ, you’re the great Jesus Christ.
Prove to me that you’re divine; change my water into wine.
That’s all you need do, then I’ll know it’s all true.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:03:48am

re: #13 lawhawk

Worst tweet so far.

And today’s news isn’t going to help Trump’s disposition either.

Everyone in Trump’s inner circle is now legally and officially fucked (legal term).

Manafort isn’t flipping on anyone below him. He flips on those above him. That means Trump, Junior, Ivanka, Eric, Kushner… and oh yeah, Pence too.

Every last one of them is in real trouble, because of what Manafort knows and what Mueller needed from him.

Think of it another way, Manafort’s plea deal means he gives up $46 million in ill gotten gains. Mueller’s case was airtight. That’s how easy it was for Mueller to get Manafort to flip. And Mueller kept the details secret until the last moment too. They’ve got this down to a science on keeping the investigation plowing along and grabbing the receipts as they go.

Trump’s lackeys in and out of the WH have totally underestimated how damn good Mueller. This will be a great final case in a great career for Mueller.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:04:52am

re: #13 lawhawk

Worst tweet so far.

And today’s news isn’t going to help Trump’s disposition either.

Everyone in Trump’s inner circle is now legally and officially fucked (legal term).

Manafort isn’t flipping on anyone below him. He flips on those above him. That means Trump, Junior, Ivanka, Eric, Kushner… and oh yeah, Pence too.

Every last one of them is in real trouble, because of what Manafort knows and what Mueller needed from him.

Think of it another way, Manafort’s plea deal means he gives up $46 million in ill gotten gains. Mueller’s case was airtight. That’s how easy it was for Mueller to get Manafort to flip. And Mueller kept the details secret until the last moment too. They’ve got this down to a science on keeping the investigation plowing along and grabbing the receipts as they go.

“We’re gonna build a big, beautiful wall around Trump, and Manafort is gonna pay for it!”

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Alephnaught  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:06:03am

Repost from dead thread:

re: #452 makeitstop

No tweets yet? Maybe they slipped some Thorazine into his Big Mac…

Well, when both Manafort and Cohen were convicted on the same day a few Fridays ago, @HoarseWisperer on Twitter predicted, using his knowledge of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, that Trump, rather than rage-tweeting, would actually be rather subdued for some time, until he could find something else to rant about. This theory was kind of validated by his lackluster performance at his rally later that day. So maybe this a similar dynamic we’re seeing here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:06:52am

Dory was really making it hard for me to comment on FB this morning. Hard to type with a handful of sleeping puppy….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:06:57am

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

“We’re gonna build a big, beautiful wall around Trump, and Manafort is gonna pay for it!”

Hahahhahha oh man that works so well.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:07:04am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:07:36am

re: #14 HappyWarrior

I guess DeSantis is finding out the hard way that there’s more ot winning races than running ads that pretty much say you love Donald Trump more than your own children.

He’ll have to double-triple down on the Drump love if he wants MAGA support.

/

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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:07:41am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:08:46am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

65 women who knew him in high school. He went to an all-boys school.

Plus, I’m sure if you quizzed the people Jeffrey Dahmer went to school with, you could easily find 65 people he didn’t kill and eat.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:10:09am

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

So, you are the Christ, you’re the great Jesus Christ.
Prove to me that you’re divine; change my water into wine.
That’s all you need do, then I’ll know it’s all true.

My favorite line from Dogma is when Bethany learns she has divine powers (like blessing water) and says, “remind me to try that water to wine thing at my next party.”

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:11:20am

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

65 women who knew him in high school. He went to an all-boys school.

Plus, I’m sure if you quizzed the people Jeffrey Dahmer went to school with, you could easily find 65 people he didn’t kill and eat.

I’m still thinking that many of the names on that list don’t even exist.

We are talking about McConnell here. He’s not above lying like a bitch to get what he wants.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:12:59am

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Dory was really making it hard for me to comment on FB this morning. Hard to type with a handful of sleeping puppy….

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Puppy Proves Worth, Prevents Caregiver from Engaging with Comment Section

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:14:26am

re: #11 Sir John Barron

Guliani: “Once again an investigation has concluded with a plea having nothing to do with the president or his campaign.”

Especially since the plea-maker was just a coffee boy.

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does it really need to be explained to these bozos that you can plead to any crime and after they flip you, talk about anything else you know

of course not, they’re just desperately spinning

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Kragar  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:15:56am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:17:09am

re: #29 Kragar

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Barely 2 months old lol.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:17:18am

re: #29 Kragar

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Like an open bottle of red wine left outside in the summer.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:17:52am

Racist woman:

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:19:29am

re: #24 Blind Frog Belly White

65 women who knew him in high school. He went to an all-boys school.

Plus, I’m sure if you quizzed the people Jeffrey Dahmer went to school with, you could easily find 65 people he didn’t kill and eat.

from downstairs where i was talking to myself:

either she’s telling the truth, or she’s a liar
there is no third way
there is no ‘mis-remembering’

her: “he did this to me”

gop: “well, here’s 65 character witnesses who say he couldnt/wouldnt”

translation: we say you’re a liar

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:19:37am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
A woman alleges Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her.

Republicans: HEY LOOK! Here’s a list of 65 women he didn’t assault!

They had the list ready to go. So now we know PART of what the GOP was hiding about this guy.

And he’s going to be confirmed.

2:06 PM - Sep 14, 2018

Before the list, and before the Feinstein revelation there was a little demonstration done in the Senate to lend an air to Brett Kavanaugh to give him a nice guy image that makes him a good guy around girls/women.

We should have seen this coming…but now we know why this was done.

Yeah, they knew what was coming.

Coach Kavanaugh and the girls he coached in basketball. They wouldn’t do this photo op with a known scumbag would they? Of course not…look at their smiles.
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:22:17am

re: #32 electrotek

Racist woman:

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She’s from the tribe Stupidasshole.

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:22:21am

re: #34 ObserverArt

Before the list, and before the Feinstein revelation there was a little demonstration done in the Senate to lend an air to Brett Kavanaugh to give him a nice guy image that makes him a good guy around girls/women.

We should have seen this coming…but now we know why this was done.

Yeah, they knew what was coming.

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They were hoping that one on the far right would be cropped out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:22:48am

re: #34 ObserverArt

Before the list, and before the Feinstein revelation there was a little demonstration done in the Senate to lend an air to Brett Kavanaugh to give him a nice guy image that makes him a good guy around girls/women.

We should have seen this coming…but now we know why this was done.

Yeah, they knew what was coming.

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Yeah that’s a good observation.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:22:59am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Think about it…they’ve known this has been sitting out there for a while, and this letter is the BEST that they could come up with—something that would be laughed out of court if presented as exculpatory evidence.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:24:06am

re: #35 HappyWarrior

She’s from the tribe Stupidasshole.

This does not help the alleged progressive character of Portland one bit.

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lawhawk  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:24:16am

re: #38 Mike Lamb

Airmen Cecil O’Malley and Anthony Rodriguez, what exactly were these guys going to testify to?

Kaffee: Unless I’m mistaken, they were both going to testify under oath that they had absolutely no recollection of anything.

Capt. Ross: [sarcastically] Strong witnesses.

Kaffee: [jokingly] And handsome too, didn’t you think?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:25:24am

re: #39 electrotek

This does not help the alleged progressive character of Portland one bit.

Have you read up on Oregon’s history? It’s actually pretty ugly. Beautiful state and I still want to visit but it does show you that progressives places or places with progressive reputations can be just as ugly. People are people though. That woman was an ugly person because she’s an ugly person not because she lives in Portland.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:25:33am

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Dory was really making it hard for me to comment on FB this morning. Hard to type with a handful of sleeping puppy….

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Handful of sleeping puppy > Facebook

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:26:42am

Interesting piece about the causes/misconceptions of the financial sector crash. Makes it clear, I think, that there were a lot of contributing factors and no good ways to deal with the resulting disaster.

And doesn’t even touch on the fact that we probably haven’t really fixed the underlying problems that put us there in the first place.

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:27:04am

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s a good observation.

I’m good for observations.

Not much else.

Well, some Photoshops…when I do them.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:28:22am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Have you read up on Oregon’s history? It’s actually pretty ugly. Beautiful state and I still want to visit but it does show you that progressives places or places with progressive reputations can be just as ugly. People are people though. That woman was an ugly person because she’s an ugly person not because she lives in Portland.

Sadly I have. It’s disgusting.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:29:47am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Have you read up on Oregon’s history? It’s actually pretty ugly. Beautiful state and I still want to visit but it does show you that progressives places or places with progressive reputations can be just as ugly. People are people though. That woman was an ugly person because she’s an ugly person not because she lives in Portland.

My best friend used to work a blue collar job in Portland. He was surrounded by openly bigoted Trump supporters. Fortunately he has a big mouth and gave them hell.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:30:04am

I just had a thought - a lot has been made this week about how Manafort and Trump’s lawyers had a ‘cooperation agreement,’ and that would have helped Trump because he’d presumably have access to what Manafort’s lawyers were hearing from Mueller.

Well guess what? That got flipped on its head today. Mueller now has a window into what Trump’s team is doing. Trump’s lawyers have probably all got king-sized headaches today.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:30:42am

re: #13 lawhawk

Think of it another way, Manafort’s plea deal means he gives up $46 million in ill gotten gains. Mueller’s case was airtight. That’s how easy it was for Mueller to get Manafort to flip. And Mueller kept the details secret until the last moment too. They’ve got this down to a science on keeping the investigation plowing along and grabbing the receipts as they go.

emptywheel.net
So here’s what Robert Mueller just did: He sewed up the key witness to implicate the President, and he paid for the entire investigation. And it’s only now lunch time.

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electrotek  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:31:50am

re: #46 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

My best friend used to work a blue collar job in Portland. He was surrounded by openly bigoted Trump supporters. Fortunately he has a big mouth and gave them hell.

I’d hate to be a minority and have to work with other blue-collar bigoted Trump supporters personally.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:32:16am

re: #34 ObserverArt

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:32:32am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:34:40am

re: #49 electrotek

I’d hate to be a minority and have to work with other blue-collar bigoted Trump supporters personally.

Most people in Portland, by far, are white. That’s part of the reason for the racism.

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:35:17am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Have you read up on Oregon’s history? It’s actually pretty ugly. Beautiful state and I still want to visit but it does show you that progressives places or places with progressive reputations can be just as ugly. People are people though. That woman was an ugly person because she’s an ugly person not because she lives in Portland.

This history happened while I (and a few other lizards) was living there:

Mulugeta Seraw (October 21, 1960 - November 13, 1988) was an Ethiopian student who went to the United States to attend college. Seraw was killed in November 1988, at age 28, in Portland, Oregon by three white supremacists. His father and son successfully filed a civil lawsuit against the killers and an affiliated organization, holding them liable for the murder.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:36:55am

re: #34 ObserverArt

The girl on the far right looks distinctly ‘not feeling it’.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:37:55am

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

The girl on the far right looks distinctly ‘not feeling it’.

Yeah, she’s looking out for the molester.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:38:30am

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So have some rugelach.

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:39:20am

re: #52 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Most people in Portland, by far, are white. That’s part of the reason for the racism.

No, the racism is why Portland is predominantly white. There was a large influx of Black people during WWII, segregated to live in a flood zone, which, when flooded, was never rebuilt. They forced out as many as they could, and continued to segregate the rest.

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Kragar  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:42:53am
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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:43:13am

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

The girl on the far right looks distinctly ‘not feeling it’.

Maybe she needs a little interview with the “where did he touch you doll.”

I have a feeling the “girl’s coach” demonstration and now the letter and the Republican’s already having ready answers means this may be bigger than what we expected.

Kavanaugh has closets. Lot’s of deep, dark closets. And there is bad stuff in them.

I bet the Democratic hunting dogs are busy working overtime now. There is a scent about.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:45:27am

re: #58 Kragar

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:45:41am

Imagine being this stupid

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Sir John Barron  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:46:32am

re: #47 makeitstop

I just had a thought - a lot has been made this week about how Manafort and Trump’s lawyers had a ‘cooperation agreement,’ and that would have helped Trump because he’d presumably have access to what Manafort’s lawyers were hearing from Mueller.

Well guess what? That got flipped on its head today. Mueller now has a window into what Trump’s team is doing. Trump’s lawyers have probably all got king-sized headaches today.

undercover activities?

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:46:50am

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Imagine being this stupid

I can’t see anything else, but I hope that’s satire.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:47:02am
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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:48:35am

Brit Hume’s daughter

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:48:42am

re: #57 wrenchwench

No, the racism is why Portland is predominantly white. There was a large influx of Black people during WWII, segregated to live in a flood zone, which, when flooded, was never rebuilt. They forced out as many as they could, and continued to segregate the rest.

Oregon was literally born racist.

Oregon was admitted to the Union on February 14, 1859. Founded as a refuge from disputes over slavery, Oregon had a “whites only” clause in its original state Constitution.[71] At the outbreak of the American Civil War, regular U.S. troops were withdrawn and sent east. Volunteer cavalry recruited in California were sent north to Oregon to keep peace and protect the populace. The First Oregon Cavalry served until June 1865.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:49:02am

re: #62 Sir John Barron

undercover activities?

Isn’t that where you screw people - under covers?
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Seriously, though - at this point, he can’t do undercover activities because everyone KNOWS he’ll be doing undercover activities, which suggests he’s already done them.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:49:21am

re: #62 Sir John Barron

undercover activities?

I was wondering about that, too. I’d consider his cover pretty much blown at this point.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:50:04am

Ugh. Rapidly coming down with a nasty cold. Where’s that zinc?

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:50:43am

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

Oregon was literally born racist.

“Literally born racist” honestly sums up about 68% of American history

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:53:01am

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Rapidly coming down with a nasty cold. Where’s that zinc?

I’m seeing a lot of people come down with a chest & throat cold in the last week. Dunno WTF is up with that, but I know late-summer colds can be real bastards.

Prescription: sleep & lots of it. Even though our political situation is fucking bugnuts insane. Tune out for a while. Take a mental health break.

Hell, get in the car, drive out to Malibu, and go for a hike up Point Dume just before sunset, and watch the pod of dolphins that always shows up at the end of the day cavort & leap out of the water.

Life goes on.

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ericblair  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:53:34am

re: #58 Kragar

Imagine thinking you’ve found a mate, only to discover they’re a writhing mass of parasitic beetle larvae on.natgeo.com

I assume Melania is nodding and getting another vodka martini.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:54:04am

re: #68 makeitstop

I was wondering about that, too. I’d consider his cover pretty much blown at this point.

I dunno. Trumps are pretty stupid. I’m pretty sure Don Jr. and Eric would accept someone’s word about not wearing a wire.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 14, 2018 • 11:56:47am

BTW, I plan on taking my own advice today. Unplugging and just doing a mental health break - especially after paging what I just did - How Chile’s overthrow of Allende was an early example of the evangelical + oligarchy devil’s bargain that is Trumpism

Rich old fat white fucks + bug-eyed religious fanatics = almost 20 years of dictatorship, torture and enforcement of extreme religious strictures

I need a break after this one.

Angry, petulant man-babies throwing a deadly national tantrum, backed by cynical oligarchs bent on keeping working class under the thumbs.
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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:00:48pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno. Trumps are pretty stupid. I’m pretty sure Don Jr. and Eric would accept someone’s word about not wearing a wire.

INT MANAFORT’S HOME OFFICE

Don Jr and Eric swagger into the room. Manafort is standing by the bar, mixing a drink.

Manafort: Gentlemen, how are you?

Don Jr: I’m not answering any questions until I know you’re not wearing a wire.

Manafort: I’m not wearing a wire.

He lifts his shirt, and spins around.

Manafort: See?

Eric: Fine, so about all those crimes we did.

Manafort moves across the room, drink in hand. He stops in front of a large plotted plant.

Manafort: What crimes?

Don Jr: Why are you talking to that plant?

Manafort: I heard talking to plants makes them grow better.

Don Jr: Oh, I didn’t know that, dad never let us have pets

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:02:33pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:04:14pm

This thread, y’all:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:04:29pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:05:44pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno. Trumps are pretty stupid. I’m pretty sure Don Jr. and Eric would accept someone’s word about not wearing a wire.

Good point.

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Kragar  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:08:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:10:47pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:11:16pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:11:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:11:55pm
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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:12:22pm
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Skip Intro  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:13:12pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

They’ve got a couple of Dems too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:14:18pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Trump’s lackeys in and out of the WH have totally underestimated how damn good Mueller. This will be a great final case in a great career for Mueller.

Bannon didn’t. In Fire and Fury he was quoted as saying that Mueller had assembled a team of killers and all the WH had was a couple of guys with legal pads and post-it notes.

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gwangung  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:17:48pm

re: #87 Big Beautiful Door

Bannon didn’t. In Fire and Fury he was quoted as saying that Mueller had assembled a team of killers and all the WH had was a couple of guys with legal pads and post-it notes.

Meaning they actually served in the US military, I take it?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:20:29pm

re: #86 Skip Intro

They’ve got a couple of Dems too.

DINOs.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:22:19pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:26:52pm
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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:30:02pm

What are the odds that Brit Hume’s daughter just happened to know Kavanaugh in school?

Does Hannity have a daughter, and is she on that list?

/kinda

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:30:35pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Rapidly coming down with a nasty cold. Where’s that zinc?

Wasn’t that a hoax?

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:30:41pm

re: #89 Charles Johnson

DINOs.

Maybe there’s a little more room in here:

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:31:02pm

re: #85 Sufficient unto the day…

“their citizens”

No.

They are our citizens. They are American citizens. The fact remains that the federal government failed a large number of its citizens. That should not be hard to understand.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:32:29pm

I was just reminiscing about how cocky all these Trump guys were when Trump took office.

They all thought they were gonna skate.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:32:40pm

re: #88 gwangung

Meaning they actually served in the US military, I take it?

Meaning they are skilled prosecutors with expertise in fields such as money laundering.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:34:06pm

re: #93 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Wasn’t that a hoax?

Not a hoax, last time I checked. I believe zinc actually does slightly reduce the length and severity of a cold.

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b.d.(my doppelganger did it)  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:35:38pm

re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White

I dunno. Trumps are pretty stupid. I’m pretty sure Don Jr. and Eric would accept someone’s word about not wearing a wire.

[trump jr.] Nice lapel flower there Mr. Manafort…[/trump jr]

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CarolJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:37:46pm

65 women who could vouch for his character? Dude got around a lot for being in an all-guy school. Was his nickname “Romeo”? I went to a junior high school that was exclusive and co-ed, and I doubt that they could find 65 guys who even knew who I was, let alone could vouch for my character. 65 friends is overkill and a sign that there’s more than it appears. Maybe some law clerks, secretaries, and paralegals serving with him have something more substantive to say about his character, and the Republican Senate is trying to hold off on potentially more creditable witnesses. Of course, I’m assuming they are real and somehow they agreed to this (right).

If someone called me about an old classmate of mine who I hadn’t seen in years, I would probably say, “he’s ok” just to get them off the phone and not want to create any problems or further contact. The truth is that I couldn’t do more than vouch based on the minimum amount I could remember-assuming I could remember-which is not pertinent to what that person could be now. After all, the Green River Killer went to high school too.

Who else finds the involvement of his high school team creepy? Why would you lean on them so much in something so substantial, or talk about how good he was in the carpool? Especially if they know that if they say anything negative, it could have repercussions on them.

It would be like evaluating an astronaut candidate based on how well he performed drill in air cadet school. At this level, it should be what be his adult character, his legal professional judgement, his treatment of both litigants and fellow jurists that’s most important. But they are trying to cover for him. Why do that, when I’m sure there are others on the list who are alter boys/girls with a clean record and similar views? I think somehow they feel they owe him/fear him.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:38:16pm

re: #91 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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We shouldn’t play the game of what the signatories knew of the allegations. That’s wholly irrelevant. Everything about the letter is a red herring. It’s not probative in any sense.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:38:37pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

Not a hoax, last time I checked. I believe zinc actually does slightly reduce the length and severity of a cold.

It looks like they now think it makes the cold 1 day shorter if you start on the zinc in the first symptomatic 24 hours. I’ll take the extra day of cold over numbing out my taste buds.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:38:53pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Rapidly coming down with a nasty cold. Where’s that zinc?

I swear by these.

Nature’s Way Sambucus Elderberry Gummies, Herbal Supplements with Vitamin C and Zinc, Gluten Free, Vegetarian, 60 Gummies (Packaging May Vary) amazon.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:40:23pm

re: #103 GlutenFreeJesus

I swear by these.

Nature’s Way Sambucus Elderberry Gummies, Herbal Supplements with Vitamin C and Zinc, Gluten Free, Vegetarian, 60 Gummies (Packaging May Vary) amazon.com

Did you learn that from your father?

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:41:51pm

re: #102 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It looks like they now think it makes the cold 1 day shorter if you start on the zinc in the first symptomatic 24 hours. I’ll take the extra day of cold over numbing out my taste buds.

Hey, that’s better than what my Grandfather the doctor used to say: “It’s a cold. Left untreated, it’ll last 7 days. Treated, it’ll last a week.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:49:15pm

Be careful out there

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:51:53pm

re: #101 Mike Lamb

We shouldn’t play the game of what the signatories knew of the allegations. That’s wholly irrelevant. Everything about the letter is a red herring. It’s not probative in any sense.

It may not prove anything, but it certainly means more than nothing. He can’t be sent to jail for it, but the coverup means there’s one more thing in the pile against him. Pile of rulings as a judge, opinions given, denials made, McConnell wanting to force him through, not a ‘pile-on’. Definitely not ‘wholly irrelevant’.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:52:10pm
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mmmirele  Sep 14, 2018 • 12:58:55pm

re: #106 Unshaken Defiance

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:06:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:06:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:07:30pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Ugh. Rapidly coming down with a nasty cold. Where’s that zinc?

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:07:39pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:10:58pm

re: #113 gocart mozart

[Fight me, sue me, I don’t care. I prefer this to Johnny Cash’s version.]

I might have to follow him. Oh, I already do.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:11:11pm
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terraincognita  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:11:32pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Hey, man. Check out the guy with the microphone doing yoga in a storm like this. Strange dude. Let’s continue with our saunter out to the beach.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:12:35pm

In normal circumstances a nominee in Kavanaugh’s position would consider withdrawing his nomination. That won’t happen, I’ll bet. I’m absolutely sure he thinks he’s on a God-given mission to overturn Roe v. Wade.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:12:44pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Interesting piece about the causes/misconceptions of the financial sector crash. Makes it clear, I think, that there were a lot of contributing factors and no good ways to deal with the resulting disaster.

And doesn’t even touch on the fact that we probably haven’t really fixed the underlying problems that put us there in the first place.

two big contributing factors:

micro
- decoupling loan origination from the long term servicing / collection risk (perfectly legal):
get the borrower ‘qualified’
skim the up front points and fees, then sell the loan
the 20-30 year risk of collection is now on the new owner of the loan
sure they had underwriting criteria they used to decide what loans to buy - still the up front mortgage brokers knows it’s not gonna be his problem - just get em qualified

macro
- credit default swaps

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:14:03pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

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Someone has no idea how this works.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:14:53pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

In normal circumstances a nominee in Kavanaugh’s position would consider withdrawing his nomination. That won’t happen, I’ll bet. I’m absolutely sure he thinks he’s on a God-given mission to overturn Roe v. Wade.

He won’t. Kavanaugh is one smug asshole. You don’t rise in right wing circles the way he has without being one.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:15:32pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

Since flu season is coming up remember that nothing helps prevent catching it like introversion and misanthropy

I still have to go to work, and a virus can survive on an unattended Peapod delivery.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:17:25pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Jessica has a chance to learn something here, and expand her mind, or double down on crankiness and resent all the free info getting thrown her way.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:17:48pm

I wonder which way she’ll go?

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:18:15pm

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:18:52pm

re: #123 jaunte

I wonder which way she’ll go?

I hope the former- opens her mind but I’ve seen a lot of internet wingnuts like her just double down when liberals like Frank point our their wrongness.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:19:14pm
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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:20:06pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Dory was really making it hard for me to comment on FB this morning. Hard to type with a handful of sleeping puppy….

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How big do you think she will get? 10 pounds? 25 pounds? She’s a chubby darling!

KISSKISSKISSKISSKISSKISSKISS little angel!!

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Alephnaught  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:20:31pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

Someone has no idea how this works.

Am I the only one who saw that “You can lead a horse to water…” in that tweet, and thought: even if she’s not aware of it, that is actually dehumanising the people of Puerto Rico?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:20:53pm

re: #107 wrenchwench

It may not prove anything, but it certainly means more than nothing. He can’t be sent to jail for it, but the coverup means there’s one more thing in the pile against him. Pile of rulings as a judge, opinions given, denials made, McConnell wanting to force him through, not a ‘pile-on’. Definitely not ‘wholly irrelevant’.

The letter from the 65 women is irrelevant. The accuser’s letter needs to be investigated properly. But the fact that 65 women think he was swell (supposedly) is wholly irrelevant.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:20:55pm

re: #59 ObserverArt

Maybe she needs a little interview with the “where did he touch you doll.”

I have a feeling the “girl’s coach” demonstration and now the letter and the Republican’s already having ready answers means this may be bigger than what we expected.

Kavanaugh has closets. Lot’s of deep, dark closets. And there is bad stuff in them.

I bet the Democratic hunting dogs are busy working overtime now. There is a scent about.

ok last thread i just wrote this thing about ldle speculation. neverthreless:

IF it’s true, its gonna be a repeat of the trump admin itself
he gets confirmed
meanwhile, no one’s gonna let this go. they will keep digging and digging
someone will unearth the truth / history
the republicans that rammed him through will end up looking like….well i dont know because there is that hard core percentage out there
AND there will be a move to impeach him

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freetoken  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:21:58pm

Mangkhut still looking scary even after landfall:

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:22:27pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

Imagine being this stupid

Dude…Puerto Rico has their own president who didn’t do squat. If you’re gonna blame someone, make sure it’s the right person

absolutely right!

that guy who’s the head of puerto rico, you know ‘the president’, boot him right out

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:23:31pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

That’s great, dude. So happy for you. Turn it up to 11 for me.

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Sea Mexican!  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:23:36pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

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Heck, PR can’t even declare bankruptcy without the Congress direct intervention.

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:23:46pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

And she doubled down on the stupid with another tweet. And she’s passed on those clever genes to at least one child. SMDH

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:23:52pm

re: #129 Mike Lamb

The letter from the 65 women is irrelevant. The accuser’s letter needs to be investigated properly. But the fact that 65 women think he was swell (supposedly) is wholly irrelevant.

OK, yeah, that letter is irrelevant. I thought you were saying the accuser’s letter was irrelevant. Sorry.

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steve_davis  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:24:32pm

re: #47 makeitstop

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I just had a thought - a lot has been made this week about how Manafort and Trump’s lawyers had a ‘cooperation agreement,’ and that would have helped Trump because he’d presumably have access to what Manafort’s lawyers were hearing from Mueller.

Well guess what? That got flipped on its head today. Mueller now has a window into what Trump’s team is doing. Trump’s lawyers have probably all got king-sized headaches today.

“I shall not be filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed….what’s that?….oh, all right.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:24:33pm

re: #121 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I still have to go to work, and a virus can survive on an unattended Peapod delivery.

Get yourself a work from home job, a HEPA filtered bunker and a nuclear reactor to irradiate the Peapods.

Easy-peazy

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:25:01pm

re: #128 Alephnaught

Am I the only one who saw that “You can lead a horse to water…” in that tweet, and thought: even if she’s not aware of it, that is actually dehumanising the people of Puerto Rico?

I was thinking, “You can leave thousands of water bottles sitting in the sun on a runway in Ceiba, but for some reason old and sick people in Barranquitas won’t hike dozens of miles cross country to pick them up by hand.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:26:16pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

I’m feeling happy to see that things are going well for you!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:26:35pm

re: #118 dangerman

two big contributing factors:

micro
- decoupling loan origination from the long term servicing / collection risk (perfectly legal):
get the borrower ‘qualified’
skim the up front points and fees, then sell the loan
the 20-30 year risk of collection is now on the new owner of the loan
sure they had underwriting criteria they used to decide what loans to buy - still the up front mortgage brokers knows it’s not gonna be his problem - just get em qualified

macro
- credit default swaps

One that frequently gets overlooked: Too many rich people with too much money. Money starts flowing into a market, that market rises, making it more attractive so more money flows into it. Lather, rinse, repeat until SOMEBODY realizes that a pair of tulip bulbs cannot POSSIBLY be as valuable as a mansion on the best street in Amsterdam.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:26:55pm

re: #58 Kragar

Imagine thinking you’ve found a mate, only to discover they’re a writhing mass of parasitic beetle larvae

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:27:45pm

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

Get yourself a work from home job, a HEPA filtered bunker and a nuclear reactor to irradiate the Peapods.

Easy-peazy

I consulted from home for a while. It was sweet.

I remember the boy scout who built a reactor, and that did not go well.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:28:28pm

re: #134 Sea Mexican!

Heck, PR can’t even declare bankruptcy without the Congress direct intervention.

The US basically treats PR like a Bantustan.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:28:36pm

re: #68 makeitstop

I was wondering about that, too. I’d consider his cover pretty much blown at this point.

dudes:
kelly was firing manigault (maginot line)
he picked the situation room
he didnt check her

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:31:02pm

re: #100 CarolJ

65 women who could vouch for his character? Dude got around a lot for being in an all-guy school. Was his nickname “Romeo”? I went to a junior high school that was exclusive and co-ed, and I doubt that they could find 65 guys who even knew who I was, let alone could vouch for my character. 65 friends is overkill and a sign that there’s more than it appears. Maybe some law clerks, secretaries, and paralegals serving with him have something more substantive to say about his character, and the Republican Senate is trying to hold off on potentially more creditable witnesses. Of course, I’m assuming they are real and somehow they agreed to this (right).

If someone called me about an old classmate of mine who I hadn’t seen in years, I would probably say, “he’s ok” just to get them off the phone and not want to create any problems or further contact. The truth is that I couldn’t do more than vouch based on the minimum amount I could remember-assuming I could remember-which is not pertinent to what that person could be now. After all, the Green River Killer went to high school too.

Who else finds the involvement of his high school team creepy? Why would you lean on them so much in something so substantial, or talk about how good he was in the carpool? Especially if they know that if they say anything negative, it could have repercussions on them.

It would be like evaluating an astronaut candidate based on how well he performed drill in air cadet school. At this level, it should be what be his adult character, his legal professional judgement, his treatment of both litigants and fellow jurists that’s most important. But they are trying to cover for him. Why do that, when I’m sure there are others on the list who are alter boys/girls with a clean record and similar views? I think somehow they feel they owe him/fear him.

You remember the ones that were creepy, icky or assholes. The rest would be…who? Oh, ok, sure. He’s ok, I guess.

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:31:23pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

Man shall not live by electric guitar alone.

He needs amplification for spiritual enrichment.

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:32:18pm

Well, it’s just pissing down rain right now.

When summer breaks in CenTex, it breaks HARD.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:32:32pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

@JerylBier
Do you believe this woman?

Ross McIntire
@merovingians
um, yeah. I trust that she knew Kavanaugh and he did not try to assault her and they contacted her last night.

believing them all is besides the point and a distraction
they could all be ‘telling the truth’
doesnt change the accusation

the implication is these 65 somehow prove you’re a liar

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:32:55pm
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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:34:06pm

How many of the 65 are activist R party operatives or married to one?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:34:21pm

re: #82 Big Beautiful Door

This is why Rick Scott is planning to replace three Florida Supreme Court Justices the day Gillum becomes governor after Scott’s term has ended.

amazing how the merrick garland principle only worked on obama

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:34:58pm

re: #130 dangerman

ok last thread i just wrote this thing about ldle speculation. neverthreless:

IF it’s true, its gonna be a repeat of the trump admin itself
he gets confirmed
meanwhile, no one’s gonna let this go. they will keep digging and digging
someone will unearth the truth / history
the republicans that rammed him through will end up looking like….well i dont know because there is that hard core percentage out there
AND there will be a move to impeach him

Awww geeez. I was joking with the doll bit.

The rest was based on what does seem to be going on.

I guess we need to go back to indicating intent or something.

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freetoken  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:35:05pm
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fern01  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:37:06pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

In normal circumstances a nominee in Kavanaugh’s position would consider withdrawing his nomination. That won’t happen, I’ll bet. I’m absolutely sure he thinks he’s on a God-given mission to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Normal circumstances are for democrats. Republicans have no rules other than their divine right to rule.

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:37:33pm

re: #124 William Lewis

That is AWESOME!! Congratulations!!

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:38:08pm

re: #151 jaunte

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How many of the 65 are activist R party operatives or married to one?

THIS.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:39:52pm

re: #99 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

[trump jr.] Nice lapel flower there Mr. Manafort…[/trump jr]

sally field’s got one of those on here: absence of malice

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:41:39pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:42:01pm

re: #28 dangerman

does it really need to be explained to these bozos that you can plead to any crime and after they flip you, talk about anything else you know

of course not, they’re just desperately spinning

It’s called an immunity bath.

Nothing complicates your life like a federal indictment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:42:44pm

re: #151 jaunte

Okay, there are a number of problems around this Kavanaugh thing.

First, I’m not sure how seriously I want to take a single anonymous accusation. Yeah, I understand that to make the accusation publicly opens the accuser up to ALL SORTS of abuse from literally the worst people in America. But the ability to face your accuser is key to our system.

Also, without any contemporary corroboration, how can we know how seriously to take this?

Second, the “65 Women He Didn’t Assault” letter is fucking worthless. Even serial rapists don’t rape EVERY woman they meet.

So, you know, the accusation is weak tea, and the defense is weaker tea.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:43:37pm

re: #147 ObserverArt

Man shall not live by electric guitar alone.

He needs amplification for spiritual enrichment.

Verily!

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:45:07pm

re: #122 jaunte

Jessica has a chance to learn something here, and expand her mind, or double down on crankiness and resent all the free info getting thrown her way.

which is why i dont engage crackpots
experience and the odds say far too many double down for it to be worthwhile
few if any want to learn and expand their minds

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:46:04pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

paint on an ‘11’

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:46:29pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, there are a number of problems around this Kavanaugh thing.

First, I’m not sure how seriously I want to take a single anonymous accusation. Yeah, I understand that to make the accusation publicly opens the accuser up to ALL SORTS of abuse from literally the worst people in America. But the ability to face your accuser is key to our system.

Also, without any contemporary corroboration, how can we know how seriously to take this?

Second, the “65 Women He Didn’t Assault” letter is fucking worthless. Even serial rapists don’t rape EVERY woman they meet.

So, you know, the accusation is weak tea, and the defense is weaker tea.

In my opinion, that whole 65 women thing made the original case that much worse. This is some kind of righteous bullshit. They’d have been better served saying it was bullshit. This, to me, lends credence to the original report.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:47:24pm
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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:47:37pm

re: #133 makeitstop

That’s great, dude. So happy for you. Turn it up to 11 for me.

damn, i thought i was being clever

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:49:24pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

Anita Hill was willing to come forward and make her accusation in public, and that led to several others saying they’d had similar experiences. Thomas got confirmed anyway, and Hill got thoroughly abused by the Right, and didn’t get a lot of defense from the Dems, to our collective shame.

I thoroughly understand the accuser here not wanting to go public. But if she doesn’t and nobody else comes forward to say, “Yeah, that creep tried to do the same to me!”, I’m not even sure it SHOULD torpedo his confirmation. IMO, there’s already plenty of information that should do that, but won’t.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:51:19pm

re: #167 dangerman

damn, i thought i was being clever

You were! :)

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:51:30pm

re: #143 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I consulted from home for a while. It was sweet.

I remember the boy scout who built a reactor, and that did not go well.

Was that a real thing? I always thought it was Rodney McKay’s backstory; that was how a Canadian boy came to be working for the US Military.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:52:48pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Fantastic! Very glad to hear it.
Make those windows shake!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:53:15pm

re: #165 MsJ

In my opinion, that whole 65 women thing made the original case that much worse. This is some kind of righteous bullshit. They’d have been better served saying it was bullshit. This, to me, lends credence to the original report.

Doesn’t go quite that far with me, but it sure doesn’t even infinitesimally exonerate him, and it really bugs me that anyone thinks it does.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:54:30pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

Awww geeez. I was joking with the doll bit.

The rest was based on what does seem to be going on.

I guess we need to go back to indicating intent or something.

oh no no
i just latched it on to your post
i think its a very real possibility that what i speculated actually happens
-because they are moving soooo fast
-and now with the experience of the last two or so years, ‘investigating journalists’ will not let this go (if there’s a there, there)

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:58:21pm

re: #113 gocart mozart

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:58:50pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

So, you know, the accusation is weak tea, and the defense is weaker tea.

I think the improbably organized denial just makes the whole thing look worse for Kavanaugh.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 14, 2018 • 1:59:05pm

re: #114 wrenchwench

I might have to follow him. Oh, I already do.

Ry Cooder, when he played with Taj Mahal, inspired Duane Allman to learn slide guitar.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:00:36pm

re: #170 sagehen

Was that a real thing? I always thought it was Rodney McKay’s backstory; that was how a Canadian boy came to be working for the US Military.

Barney Miller - S4E11, “Atomic Bomb”

YouTube

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:01:13pm

re: #162 makeitstop

Verily!

And the enlightened shall remember to occasionally give the jazzier sounding chords some love, eg C7b5b9 or Cm6/9

EDIT: I am not claiming to be enlightened, or even to know jack shit about playing. It’s just that I just learned those chords yesterday…

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:02:00pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

Doesn’t go quite that far with me, but it sure doesn’t even infinitesimally exonerate him, and it really bugs me that anyone thinks it does.

I’d bet my last bottom dollar that there are not 65 people from my high school of 1500 that would even remember me, let alone vouch for me decades later.

You?

And on a moment’s notice?

Not a chance. I am completely not buying what they’re selling. It makes zero logical sense. Something they used to teach in high school.

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:02:16pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, there are a number of problems around this Kavanaugh thing.

First, I’m not sure how seriously I want to take a single anonymous accusation. Yeah, I understand that to make the accusation publicly opens the accuser up to ALL SORTS of abuse from literally the worst people in America. But the ability to face your accuser is key to our system.

Also, without any contemporary corroboration, how can we know how seriously to take this?

Second, the “65 Women He Didn’t Assault” letter is fucking worthless. Even serial rapists don’t rape EVERY woman they meet.

So, you know, the accusation is weak tea, and the defense is weaker tea.

Why even defend it at all then?

The 65 signees seem like a pretty strange step if you know the allegation is that weak. And, I thought the whole coaches girl’s basketball teams and here are the girls show was odd when it happened.

There is a reason the Republicans have been acting they way they have been acting…covering for him, rather than an open book approach.

And that is what all this goes to. If he is such a nice guy and great judge, he wouldn’t need all this cover.

This might not have anything more to it than to show women (two especially!) Kavanaugh is not a friend to women. Add it in to some of the other revelations.

It is another reason to do what the Democrats are doing. Delays things and makes the country ponder this more and make the Republicans scramble.

We all wondered if the Dems would mount any kind of a defense to this nomination. Some even said the Democrats always fold and allow the Republicans to do whatever to get their way, there will be no fight because they never do.

Buying time while digging for more to stop a guy no one wants seems to be politics to me. Historically the Republicans know many times Democrats get cold feet and pull punches. Maybe it is different. Give ‘em a little of their own.

If we want to be spotless, then Mitch McConnell will be happy, because he never fails to go low. Never.

And is this that low? Seems to be a ‘we found a document and it raises questions’ thing. All the rest is the Republican answer and all the internet stuff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:02:55pm

re: #171 Jebediah, RBG

Fantastic! Very glad to hear it.
Make those windows shake!

YouTube

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:03:12pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:06:26pm
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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:07:10pm

re: #167 dangerman

It’s ok. This Amp has a secret weapon - if you plug it in the second jack and pull on the volume nob? It turns on a second trip through the NOS 5751 before going to the 5881 power tube I’m using. It’s like having 2 11’s on it :D

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:08:10pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

Why even defend it at all then?

Because it works with the audience it was intended for. If any GOP women were made uncomfortable by the prospect that he sexually assaulted a girl in high school, the letter gives them a reason to disbelieve it. It doesn’t have to exonerate him in the eyes of the world. It just has to give them cover and confirmation bias will do the rest.

For those who pay limited attention to politics, they might hear “Kavanaugh accused of being sex creep, accusation refuted by 65 women”, and they can put it down to partisan wrangling.

They’re not trying to convince us.

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:09:35pm

And thanks all for the good thoughts. After the discussion last night, I splurged on a bottle of Famous Grouse as well.

Ah, synchronicity - shuffle mode just pulled up “White Room” on the stereo. Delicious guitar that never grows old.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:10:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:10:42pm

I found the Lee staffer complaining “They always do this” Except no one accused Gorsuch, Alito, and Roberts of being pervs. Jerks who may be partisan hacks in their legal rulings which they in fact have been by and large but not creepers.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:11:18pm

re: #180 ObserverArt

Why even defend it at all then?

There is a reason the Republicans have been acting they way they have been acting…covering for him, rather than an open book approach.

And that is what all this goes to. If he is such a nice guy and great judge, he wouldn’t need all this cover.

It is another reason to do what the Democrats are doing. Delays things and makes the country ponder this more and make the Republicans scramble.

Buying time while digging for more to stop a guy no one wants seems to be politics to me.

And is this that low? Seems to be a ‘we found a document and it raises questions’ thing. All the rest is the Republican answer and all the internet stuff.

it’s all about the gamesmanship, not the jurisprudence

YouTube

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EPR-radar  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:15:13pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

Introversion and misanthropy has to be practiced with 100% consistency to ward off colds and the flu.

Lesser efforts merely leave one more vulnerable to whatever is going around.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:15:17pm

re: #184 William Lewis

It’s ok. This Amp has a secret weapon - if you plug it in the second jack and pull on the volume nob? It turns on a second trip through the NOS 5751 before going to the 5881 power tube I’m using. It’s like having 2 11’s on it :D

the bold is all greek to me
the itals i got

rock the house
i love it

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ObserverArt  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:15:32pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

Because it works with the audience it was intended for. If any GOP women were made uncomfortable by the prospect that he sexually assaulted a girl in high school, the letter gives them a reason to disbelieve it. It doesn’t have to exonerate him in the eyes of the world. It just has to give them cover and confirmation bias will do the rest.

For those who pay limited attention to politics, they might hear “Kavanaugh accuse of being sex creep, accusation refuted by 65 women”, and they can put it down to partisan wrangling.

They’re not trying to convince us.

And the Democrats are fighting over the same group. What is wrong with that? Those same might hear it and wonder why they keep hearing this and want to check it out.

I guess a lot goes to how cynical ‘they’ can be viewed. If there is belief nothing will change those people then yeah it is a waste. But if you believe there are redeemable people that need to hear it so they can make a decision, then this is needed.

You go to change the minds you can change. And in this case, we have to fight for everything and everyone. Trump times call for special ops.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:15:55pm
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darthstar  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:17:04pm
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Jay C  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:18:12pm

re: #186 William Lewis

And thanks all for the good thoughts. After the discussion last night, I splurged on a bottle of Famous Grouse as well.

Ah, synchronicity - shuffle mode just pulled up “White Room” on the stereo. Delicious guitar that never grows old.

Good choice on The Grouse: one of the best blended Scotches on the market - IMHO: and almost reasonable in price!

If you want to splurge on a better bottle from your next bonus or whatever try to find a bottle of The Black Grouse - it’s F.G.’s “upscale” brand: a little smoother, and not wildly more expensive.

PS: Be sure it’s The Black Grouse - they also make a “smoky peat” blend with a black label, not the same.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:19:32pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

I found the Lee staffer complaining “They always do this” Except no one accused Gorsuch, Alito, and Roberts of being pervs. Jerks who may be partisan hacks in their legal rulings which they in fact have been by and large but not creepers.

this exactly!
it’s the effing supreme court
at least get ‘clean’ people on it
at…the…very…least….

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gwangung  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:20:00pm

re: #175 jaunte

I think the improbably organized denial just makes the whole thing look worse for Kavanaugh.

Heh.

Don’t get in the way of your enemy when he’s making a mistake…

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:20:02pm

re: #195 Jay C

Thanks for the tip! I’ll keep an eye out for it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:22:35pm

re: #192 ObserverArt

And the Democrats are fighting over the same group. What is wrong with that? Those same might hear it and wonder why they keep hearing this and want to check it out.

I guess a lot goes to how cynical ‘they’ can be viewed. If there is belief nothing will change those people then yeah it is a waste. But if you believe there are redeemable people that need to hear it so they can make a decision, then this is needed.

You go to change the minds you can change. And in this case, we have to fight for everything and everyone. Trump times call for special ops.

Here’s the thing - we put forward a case. The GOP responds with what SEEMS LIKE a refutation, if you don’t really think about it. People who don’t want to really think about it then conclude it’s all just meaningless partisan bullshit, or it’s too complicated for them to try to understand, and they push it out of their minds.

It’s the approach that worked with Climate Change for a couple decades - any even semi-rational analysis of the ‘counterevidence’ would conclude it’s bullshit, but they want the Average Guy to think “It’s too complicated! Nobody really knows!”, and change the channel.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:23:23pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

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Puerto Rico really needs to bite the bullet and become a state so that there will be people in Washington who actually give a damn what happens there. D.C. and the Pacific Islands should get statehood as well. Plus we really need 6 more senators who aren’t primarily representing grumpy Fox-addled old white men.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:23:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:26:30pm

re: #201 jaunte

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Because it wasn’t rough housing. It was an attempted assault allegedly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:26:50pm

re: #201 jaunte

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“We were roughhousing, and somehow I fell on top of her. And while I was struggling to help her up, some of her clothes got torn off. So I had to cover her breast with my hand, because it was exposed. Then, I tripped and fell into her.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:27:51pm

re: #170 sagehen

Was that a real thing? I always thought it was Rodney McKay’s backstory; that was how a Canadian boy came to be working for the US Military.

en.wikipedia.org

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:29:30pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

“I wasn’t holding my hand over her mouth to keep her quiet, I was just trying to push away.”

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:29:41pm

re: #178 Jebediah, RBG

And the enlightened shall remember to occasionally give the jazzier sounding chords some love, eg C7b5b9 or Cm6/9

EDIT: I am not claiming to be enlightened, or even to know jack shit about playing. It’s just that I just learned those chords yesterday…

I hate to be a drone, but I’m playing around in the Celtic DADGAD tuning right now. I wish also that I had a smaller amp. I have a 1-10”, but it’s 50 watts, so it’s hard to find bedroom comfortable between 0-1. Anything higher than 1 disturbs the condo next door.

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:31:05pm

re: #204 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m going to add that to the list of reasons I don’t trust the boy scouts

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:31:59pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

Great news, congratulations!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:33:24pm

re: #129 Mike Lamb

The letter from the 65 women is irrelevant. The accuser’s letter needs to be investigated properly. But the fact that 65 women think he was swell (supposedly) is wholly irrelevant.

It will be good enough for Collins.

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jaunte  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:33:32pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:34:41pm

So, I’m looking at Elgin pocket watches on Ebay, and I see this listing:

“SCARCE ONLY 74,500 MADE / 1887 ELGIN B W RAYMOND 18S 15J POCKET WATCH.”

Um… 74,500 made is not only not scarce, it’s really fucking COMMON. 1000 made isn’t even scarce. Uncommon, maybe. Scarce is like, 100 made.

At least they didn’t say “Rare!”.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:34:42pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

Here’s the thing - we put forward a case. The GOP responds with what SEEMS LIKE a refutation, if you don’t really think about it. People who don’t want to really think about it then conclude it’s all just meaningless partisan bullshit, or it’s too complicated for them to try to understand, and they push it out of their minds.

It’s the approach that worked with Climate Change for a couple decades - any even semi-rational analysis of the ‘counterevidence’ would conclude it’s bullshit, but they want the Average Guy to think “It’s too complicated! Nobody really knows!”, and change the channel.

this is very good. insightful
and why im having a hard time with this idea of do you engage crackpots or ignore them
do you elevate them to the status of ‘legitimate’ or ridicule them into the lowly place they rightfully belong

some examples are clear, others are not
pseudoscience and pseudomedicine are bullshit. pretending they need ‘debunking’ is a fools errand. its why there’s a war on science today. we invited them in the door.

anti-climate science is dressed up as science. it is now on par - as you say above. it should have been slapped down from teh start as nonsense. now we have to use arguments like ‘the vast majority” or “overwhelming support for…”. when the anti- side is nothing but rhetorical arguments. not scientific ones.

in politics, things are different. refutation, debunking, etc has to be done
- because otherwise there is a vacuum that the other side will just fill.
- and because the other side does exist, legitimately (not their ideas as such)

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:35:36pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Because it wasn’t rough housing. It was an attempted assault allegedly.

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:36:47pm

re: #211 Blind Frog Belly White

So, I’m looking at Elgin pocket watches on Ebay, and I see this listing:

“SCARCE ONLY 74,500 MADE / 1887 ELGIN B W RAYMOND 18S 15J POCKET WATCH.”

Um… 74,500 made is not only not scarce, it’s really fucking COMMON. 1000 made isn’t even scarce. Uncommon, maybe. Scarce is like, 100 made.

At least they didn’t say “Rare!”.

It didn’t say “Mint” or (worse) “Minty”? that always got me laughing at old camera ads on EPrey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:36:50pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Because it wasn’t rough housing. It was an attempted assault allegedly.

Should we contact Ben Carson, is he not the Secretary of Rough Housing and Tumble Urban Development?

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:38:35pm

re: #209 Big Beautiful Door

It will be good enough for Collins.

yes

The letter from the 65 women is irrelevant. The accuser’s letter needs to be investigated properly. But the fact that 65 women think he was swell (supposedly) is wholly irrelevant.

know what else? there was a meeting
and they discussed ‘how many do we need to make this plausably work’
and they settled on 65 (or so)

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KGxvi  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:38:56pm

re: #200 Big Beautiful Door

Puerto Rico really needs to bite the bullet and become a state so that there will be people in Washington who actually give a damn what happens there. D.C. and the Pacific Islands should get statehood as well. Plus we really need 6 more senators who aren’t primarily representing grumpy Fox-addled old white men.

DC would likely require a constitutional amendment to deal with the current electoral vote compromise of the 23rd Amendment.

I think Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands should probably be a single state.

I’m really not sure about the Pacific Island territories. Their populations are very small (combined they’re less than half of the population of Wyoming), and I’m not sure making them one state works either logistically or politically.

So, in addition to local support, you need majorities in Congress and a president willing to agree to statehood.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:39:58pm

re: #213 dangerman

Yes thank you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:40:05pm

re: #214 William Lewis

It didn’t say “Mint” or (worse) “Minty”? that always got me laughing at old camera ads on EPrey.

The three most overused terms in vintage watch listings: Rare; Mint; and Art Deco.

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:40:32pm

re: #200 Big Beautiful Door

Puerto Rico really needs to bite the bullet and become a state so that there will be people in Washington who actually give a damn what happens there. D.C. and the Pacific Islands should get statehood as well. Plus we really need 6 more senators who aren’t primarily representing grumpy Fox-addled old white men.

Do you honestly think this administration would care if PR was a state? I don’t think they’d care one whit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:40:49pm

re: #207 KGxvi

I’m going to add that to the list of reasons I don’t trust the boy scouts

I was a scout, and it was a lot of fun.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:40:50pm

re: #152 dangerman

amazing how the merrick garland principle only worked on obama

I know, right? But if you’re republican, you can still appoint Justices the day you are out of office!

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MsJ  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:41:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:42:36pm

re: #220 MsJ

Do you honestly think this administration would care if PR was a state? I don’t think they’d care one whit.

They’d care, if Puerto Rico were an island of non-college educated white people men.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 2:43:07pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

They’d care, if Puerto Rico were an island of non-college educated white people men.

Or rich people.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:59:09pm

Ah, you’re back. I haven’t felt that kind of withdrawal panic since I quit smoking.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:59:13pm

Yay, we’re back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:59:37pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:59:38pm

Was LGF down for about 20 minutes? I kept getting a timeout error.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 14, 2018 • 3:59:59pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:03:13pm

Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:03:59pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

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Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.

Yeah I very much doubt that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:05:07pm

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

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It is quite interesting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:05:09pm

Some intern was using the Trump account to RT weather reports but he grabbed his phone back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:05:15pm

re: #230 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

HA!

As somebody pointed out, Taco Bell is really the only truly national “Mexican” restaurant chain.

Myself, I like La Tapatia in South City, but they’re really more of a taqueria/Mexican grocery store with no place to sit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:06:07pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

Some intern was using the Trump account to RT weather reports but he grabbed his phone back.

[Embedded content]

Yeah get Geraldo to cover for you, that’s a great look.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:06:20pm

We’re kinda on again/off again today, aren’t we?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:07:59pm

So first the numbers were made up and now it’s the media making poor Donnie look bad. Next will be they didn’t matter anyhow.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:08:26pm

Trixie update:

Oh, HAI! Could you take this stupid collar off, plz??

So happy to have my little one back home. So happy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:09:04pm

re: #236 HappyWarrior

Yeah get Geraldo to cover for you, that’s a great look.

Hey Happy did you see my son’s 23andme results upthread?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:09:59pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

HA!

As somebody pointed out, Taco Bell is really the only truly national “Mexican” restaurant chain.

Myself, I like La Tapatia in South City, but they’re really more of a taqueria/Mexican grocery store with no place to sit.

Demolition Man - Taco Bell - HD

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:10:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:11:41pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Happy did you see my son’s 23andme results upthread?

Hey no, thank you for sharing. Fascinating! I know some people who got 100% Irish. I am a little bit of everything Eastern Europe, Germanic, Irish, British, even some Baltic and Swedish but no Jewish.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:11:58pm

re: #242 Patricia Kayden

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If only we could understand it.
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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:12:11pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

Some intern was using the Trump account to RT weather reports but he grabbed his phone back.

[Embedded content]

Somebody retweeted that to me. I took the opportunity to block Trump.

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:12:32pm

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ah, you’re back. I haven’t felt that kind of withdrawal panic since I quit smoking.

Oy, tell me about it! I had to keep futzing with my effects pedals to keep from twitching (decided on Noise Reduction, Reverb, DS1 & a homebuilt Phaser a lizard gifted me).

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:13:17pm
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Jay C  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:15:15pm

I wonder what the problem was that caused (for me, anyway) that half-hour site outage?

The Deep State? Or the Derp State?
Russian hackers?
Aliens??
Somebody trip over a power cord?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:15:49pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

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Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.

John Dowd emails other lawyers involved in the Trump case and says of Manafort, “PM has no info on President or campaign.”

Jonathan Swan revealed in an interview that until recently Dowd used comic sans in his emails. I hope he reverted for this one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:16:16pm

Exactly. The ONLY way the headmaster would know is if the young woman had made an accusation AT THE TIME, or the boys had bragged TO HIM.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:17:14pm
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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:17:17pm

re: #240 The Vicious Babushka

Hey Happy did you see my son’s 23andme results upthread?

that’s wild! If i ever do it, it’ll be all over Europe with a possible native american component (if you had seen my grandmother, you’d understand) but in the end I’m just not quite curious enough. In the end we’re all H. sapiens and that’s good enough for god and me.

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Belafon  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:17:19pm

What if it was the reporting on the Trump supporting, MAGA hat wearing jury member that none the less voted to convict Manafort on all counts that really caused Manafort to think that he needed to plea?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:18:00pm

re: #250 Blind Frog Belly White

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Exactly. The ONLY way the headmaster would know is if the young woman had made an accusation AT THE TIME, or the boys had bragged TO HIM.

Yeah I’m not buying Parker’s excuse and frankly the right establishment wants Kavanaugh badly. He’s exactly the reason why they look the other way on Trump.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:18:06pm

re: #206 Barefoot Grin

Drone away!
And yeah it is amazing how few watts it takes to be too loud for wife/neighbors/pets. 90% of the time for me it is headphones and I almost never get to let the old Silvertone stretch its legs, even though it is only 20 something watts.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:18:19pm
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Teukka  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:20:22pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:20:27pm

re: #255 Jebediah, RBG

Drone away!
And yeah it is amazing how few watts it takes to be too loud for wife/neighbors/pets. 90% of the time for me it is headphones and I almost never get to let the old Silvertone stretch its legs, even though it is only 20 something watts.

silvertone! That’s awesome.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:20:28pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

Gets to all of us. If The Older Boy didn’t require picking up at 9 PM after his shift ends most nights, I’d be drinking a lot more.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:20:37pm

re: #251 gocart mozart

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Maybe we should start a GoFundMe to hire David Simon to troll Conservatives full-time.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:21:04pm

re: #247 Patricia Kayden

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The Russians are Coming.mpg

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:23:02pm

re: #257 Teukka

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What a psycho.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:23:35pm

re: #239 makeitstop

yay!

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Cheechako  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:24:28pm

re: #257 Teukka

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:25:44pm

re: #149 dangerman

believing them all is besides the point and a distraction
they could all be ‘telling the truth’
doesnt change the accusation

the implication is these 65 somehow prove you’re a liar

Yet another example of blaming the victim and not believing her. Nothing new.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:27:50pm

re: #252 William Lewis

that’s wild! If i ever do it, it’ll be all over Europe with a possible native american component (if you had seen my grandmother, you’d understand) but in the end I’m just not quite curious enough. In the end we’re all H. sapiens and that’s good enough for god and me.

It does show you how Warren could have believed the family legends. I don’t fault her for the slightest for believing that. She’s from Oklahoma. Lots of people there have Cherokee ancestors. I had no real OMG surprises in my results. My real neat surprises came through my research. I have a German surname and my Dad and his father were both brought up Catholic. So naturally we thought that the forebearers of our surname were Bavarians likely especially since there was a family legend that we were Swiss-German. But nope. Hessians. The other shocker was that my Dad’s Mom can trace her family in the US to Washington’s first term. We had always thought that both her parents were the children of Irish Catholic immigrants but nope. In fact, only one of her grandparents was from Ireland. She was still 7/8’s Irish in the end but still. I’m actually thinking about getting into researching for people for a living. I love love doing it and it’s very rewarding and what I want to try to show people is how they relate to the human historical experience. Doesn’t matter if your family goes back to the 13 colonies, were native Americans, or got here this century. We’re all human beings but we all have unique tales to tell.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:30:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:33:18pm

Regarding Kavanaugh’s accuser not sharing her name. TBH I don’t blame her. She probably rightfully fears harassment, threats, and being slut shamed. I don’t know guys but I believe there’s something to this. Will it sink Kavanaugh? I don’t know but I think it’s quite interesting given how zealous he was when he worked for Starr and they tried to paint him too much as the All-American boy for me.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:33:25pm

re: #266 HappyWarrior

It does show you how Warren could have believed the family legends. I don’t fault her for the slightest for believing that. She’s from Oklahoma. Lots of people there have Cherokee ancestors. I had no real OMG surprises in my results. My real neat surprises came through my research. I have a German surname and my Dad and his father were both brought up Catholic. So naturally we thought that the forebearers of our surname were Bavarians likely especially since there was a family legend that we were Swiss-German. But nope. Hessians. The other shocker was that my Dad’s Mom can trace her family in the US to Washington’s first term. We had always thought that both her parents were the children of Irish Catholic immigrants but nope. In fact, only one of her grandparents was from Ireland. She was still 7/8’s Irish in the end but still. I’m actually thinking about getting into researching for people for a living. I love love doing it and it’s very rewarding and what I want to try to show people is how they relate to the human historical experience. Doesn’t matter if your family goes back to the 13 colonies, were native Americans, or got here this century. We’re all human beings but we all have unique tales to tell.

OMG! I’ve been trying to think about what I want to do when I grow up. That would be a fantastic job to have! Now to brainstorm how to make something like that happen. I could also be a PI. I’m pretty darn good at finding people. ;-)

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:33:36pm

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

silvertone! That’s awesome.

I lucked into it. My mom paid $25 to get it for me at the library/museum fundraising sale. Since I worked there, I couldn’t buy anything in the sale. Later the guy (who also worked there) who donated it for the sale said “If I’d known you wanted it I would have just given it to you”

I have had it for over 27 years. I bought it long, LONG before I started trying to play guitar. I just had a strong feeling it would be something worth having. It wasn’t until I started trying to play that I found out it was not working. Robert Hernandez in Boyle Heights (a friend recommended him) fixed it right up. It goes into a Mesa Boogie 1x12 3/4 back cabinet with a 90 watt rated speaker - kind of a weird combination seems to me.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:34:25pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Regarding Kavanaugh’s accuser not sharing her name. TBH I don’t blame her. She probably rightfully fears harassment, threats, and being slut shamed. I don’t know guys but I believe there’s something to this. Will it sink Kavanaugh? I don’t know but I think it’s quite interesting given how zealous he was when he worked for Starr and they tried to paint him too much as the All-American boy for me.

I believe her. He’s way to smarmy for this not to have happened and he has already lied through his teeth about other things.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:35:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:35:49pm

re: #269 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

OMG! I’ve been trying to think about what I want to do when I grow up. That would be a fantastic job to have! Now to brainstorm how to make something like that happen. I could also be a PI. I’m pretty darn good at finding people. ;-)

You’re friends with me on FB so you probably saw my post. It really touched me that I was getting support on it from family and friends including family I’ve met through my very research.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:35:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:36:29pm

re: #271 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I believe her. He’s way to smarmy for this not to have happened and he has already lied through his teeth about other things.

Yeah last night, I thought this was just an 18 year old boy and his 17 year old girlfriend going out of state for a fling but this is quite specific.

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:36:52pm
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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:36:57pm

re: #255 Jebediah, RBG

Drone away!
And yeah it is amazing how few watts it takes to be too loud for wife/neighbors/pets. 90% of the time for me it is headphones and I almost never get to let the old Silvertone stretch its legs, even though it is only 20 something watts.

it’s not the watts, it’s how you use them. My 6 watt hand wired tube amp has gotten me noise complaints :) Never managed that with my 20 watt 8” solid state amp…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:37:00pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

Regarding Kavanaugh’s accuser not sharing her name. TBH I don’t blame her. She probably rightfully fears harassment, threats, and being slut shamed. I don’t know guys but I believe there’s something to this. Will it sink Kavanaugh? I don’t know but I think it’s quite interesting given how zealous he was when he worked for Starr and they tried to paint him too much as the All-American boy for me.

The problem I have with it is that in the absence of a name, and without other women coming forward to tell a similar story, it’s WAY too easy for the Right to paint this as a smear made up from whole cloth. I understand why Feinstein sat on it. Without corroboration it only reinforces what each side already thinks.

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:38:44pm

I think tonight is a good doctor night.

Perhaps rewatching the 50th Anniversary special?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:38:51pm

re: #278 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem I have with it is that in the absence of a name, and without other women coming forward to tell a similar story, it’s WAY too easy for the Right to paint this as a smear made up from whole cloth. I understand why Feinstein sat on it. Without corroboration it only reinforces what each side already thinks.

I totally get that. I just think it shouldn’t be ignored and I know you and us here don’t feel that way. The Republicans though want it swept under and want to continue to paint Kavanaugh as this boy scout that I don’t think he is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:39:16pm

re: #277 William Lewis

it’s not the watts, it’s how you use them. My 6 watt hand wired tube amp has gotten me noise complaints :) Never managed that with my 20 watt 8” solid state amp…

Must be pretty efficient speakers.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:39:24pm

re: #277 William Lewis

it’s not the watts, it’s how you use them. My 6 watt hand wired tube amp has gotten me noise complaints :) Never managed that with my 20 watt 8” solid state amp…

Tube watts are magic I guess. I have a solid state practice amp with way more watts but the few times I have opened up that little 22 or so watt Silvertone… LOUD and beautiful

EDIT: When I can afford it I want to get a super low power tube amp so I can have a power tube getting really hot and crunchy without breaking eardrums.
Or a house. With good sound insulation

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:40:55pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:41:15pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

I totally get that. I just think it shouldn’t be ignored and I know you and us here don’t feel that way. The Republicans though want it swept under and want to continue to paint Kavanaugh as this boy scout that I don’t think he is.

I’m just really frustrated by the whole thing. I mean, people say “We should believe her!”, but who is “her”? Who is it we’re believing?

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:41:49pm

re: #281 Blind Frog Belly White

Must be pretty efficient speakers.

It is a 12” that gets good reviews when VHT sells it by itself. There are people that think it’s too base centered but I like the tone I get. Especially from my phaser, reverb & Casino’s P-90’s :D

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:41:58pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m just really frustrated by the whole thing. I mean, people say “We should believe her!”, but who is “her”? Who is it we’re believing?

That is true. I would like to know a little more about the accuser.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:42:24pm

re: #270 Jebediah, RBG

I lucked into it. My mom paid $25 to get it for me at the library/museum fundraising sale. Since I worked there, I couldn’t buy anything in the sale. Later the guy (who also worked there) who donated it for the sale said “If I’d known you wanted it I would have just given it to you”

I have had it for over 27 years. I bought it long, LONG before I started trying to play guitar. I just had a strong feeling it would be something worth having. It wasn’t until I started trying to play that I found out it was not working. Robert Hernandez in Boyle Heights (a friend recommended him) fixed it right up. It goes into a Mesa Boogie 1x12 3/4 back cabinet with a 90 watt rated speaker - kind of a weird combination seems to me.

Sounds like something Jack White would approve of! I play into a Music Man I got in 1982 from a friend for $100. I think I could get it modded so that it doesn’t amp up so quickly, but that’s not a priority. I could probably get a cool little room amp for the cost of a mod.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:43:06pm

re: #248 Jay C

I wonder what the problem was that caused (for me, anyway) that half-hour site outage?

The Deep State? Or the Derp State?
Russian hackers?
Aliens??
Somebody trip over a power cord?

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:43:54pm

re: #276 gocart mozart

Yep. This is what I was thinking. She had a history with him and she took care of him. I really really hope she doesn’t get away with it, but I fear she will.

Fuck.

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William Lewis  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:44:19pm

re: #284 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m just really frustrated by the whole thing. I mean, people say “We should believe her!”, but who is “her”? Who is it we’re believing?

Yes. I’m easy to convince - if the accuser has the courage to stand up. And I have personal reasons to understand how hard that can be. But for something like this? Well, this comes close…

LOTR The Two Towers - The Tales That Really Mattered…

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:44:33pm

re: #288 Bubblehead II

The hamsters ran out of Quaaludes and spontaneously combusted.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:47:08pm

re: #277 William Lewis

it’s not the watts, it’s how you use them. My 6 watt hand wired tube amp has gotten me noise complaints :) Never managed that with my 20 watt 8” solid state amp…

I played through an 18 watt Friedman combo over the weekend. Sucker was loud!

The class rating of tube amps makes a difference. I’ve got a 30 watt Crate Class A head that’s louder than my Marshall.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:48:16pm

re: #273 HappyWarrior

You’re friends with me on FB so you probably saw my post. It really touched me that I was getting support on it from family and friends including family I’ve met through my very research.

I thought the whole thing was wonderful…the trip you went on, the family, everything!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:48:27pm

re: #276 gocart mozart

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Murdered over music. This wouldn’t be the first time sigh.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:49:13pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

Yeah last night, I thought this was just an 18 year old boy and his 17 year old girlfriend going out of state for a fling but this is quite specific.

Yep, me, as well. I’ve completely changed my mind with this new information and it should be used against him.

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makeitstop  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:49:38pm

re: #282 Jebediah, RBG

Tube watts are magic I guess. I have a solid state practice amp with way more watts but the few times I have opened up that little 22 or so watt Silvertone… LOUD and beautiful

EDIT: When I can afford it I want to get a super low power tube amp so I can have a power tube getting really hot and crunchy without breaking eardrums.
Or a house. With good sound insulation

I just did a search and was surprised to see that Marshall makes a 1 watt tube amp! Cute lil’ thing.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:50:28pm

re: #293 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I thought the whole thing was wonderful…the trip you went on, the family, everything!

I’m glad you enjoyed it. I really want other people to be able to experience something like that. It just humbles you to walk those streets, enter those churches, see the headstones, etc, and think about those who came before you. I’m proud to be American but I’m proud of my Irish, German, Slovene, and Carpatho-Rusyn roots too. Our nation’s motto applies to us as human beings, out of one many. Purity’s a foolish man’s game.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:52:16pm

re: #288 Bubblehead II

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Likely story. I think it’s the shut down of the space observatory in New Mexico.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:52:19pm

re: #211 Blind Frog Belly White

So, I’m looking at Elgin pocket watches on Ebay, and I see this listing:

“SCARCE ONLY 74,500 MADE / 1887 ELGIN B W RAYMOND 18S 15J POCKET WATCH.”

Um… 74,500 made is not only not scarce, it’s really fucking COMMON. 1000 made isn’t even scarce. Uncommon, maybe. Scarce is like, 100 made.

At least they didn’t say “Rare!”.

Same seller has another listing:

“RARE! ONLY 32,500 MADE!”

There are 12 just like it CURRENTLY listed on Ebay. Same movement, same case model. One of those 12 is an identical watch, being listed by the same seller. It also says

“RARE! ONLY 32,500 MADE!”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:52:32pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:52:58pm

re: #296 makeitstop

I just did a search and was surprised to see that Marshall makes a 1 watt tube amp! Cute lil’ thing.

Woo - power reduction to 0.1 watt!

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Scout  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:53:35pm

Dear Little Green Footballs,

Sorry to go off topic, but what do you make of this?

The company for which I work moved last weekend into a new building. The hallways and conference rooms have lots of works by professional photographers. This is hanging on the wall of a hallway leading to a conference room.

Leni Riefenstahl

My first thought: I wonder if that’s an original.
My second thought: If so, is it valuable?
My third thought: What am I thinking?

(Editied to change “worked” to “work.” I still work there.

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:53:54pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

Travel expands the heart and mind.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:54:41pm

re: #300 Charles Johnson

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At the very least you could show some respect to the people who lost their lives. For months, you claimed that barely anyone died and now you’re finally acknowledging it but blaming the media for bringing it up. You clearly are not responsible to be President so how about you and Pence both resign and go straight to fucking hell where you belong. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell can join you too.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:55:02pm

oy
time to get back on the bicycle. 14 mile ride home then couch here I come

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plansbandc  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:55:06pm

re: #300 Charles Johnson

He’s utterly vile.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:57:06pm

re: #303 plansbandc

Travel expands the heart and mind.

It really does. I’ve traveled quite a bit but this really was the first time I traveled to a place where I knew for sure I had roots and met people native to the area where my roots were. I actually visited the home where my second great grandfather spent the end of his life in the 1920’s and where countless relatives bearing my grandmother’s maiden name passed by over the century. And man trying the native food. Best kolbasi I ever had.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:57:46pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

At the very least you could show some respect to the people who lost their lives. For months, you claimed that barely anyone died and now you’re finally acknowledging it but blaming the media for bringing it up. You clearly are not responsible to be President so how about you and Pence both resign and go straight to fucking hell where you belong. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell can join you too.

Speaking of:

It’s Not Just the President* Who Ought to Be Sweating Today

Don’t forget Paul Manafort got Mike Pence the VP job.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:58:34pm

re: #302 Scout

Dear Little Green Footballs,

Sorry to go off topic, but what do you make of this?

The company for which I worked moved last weekend into a new building. The hallways and conference rooms have lots of works by professional photographers. This is hanging on the wall of a hallway leading to a conference room.

Leni Riefenstahl

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My first thought: I wonder if that’s an original.
My second thought: If so, is it valuable?
My third thought: What am I thinking?

Wow. That does look like it was signed by Riefenstahl, which would probably make it valuable if it’s genuine and not some kind of reproduction. If it’s a reproduction you have a Nazi somewhere close by.

Also disgusting because it’s Nazi propaganda, of course, whether valuable or not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:58:39pm

The problem isn’t merely that Trump is unfit to be President, he’s unfit to be a decent human being too. He just cannot show any real empathy. Everything comes back to one person in the end and that’s Donald J. Trump and how this is good or bad for him. All politicians are narcissistic but this guy, man.

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A Cranky One  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:58:51pm

Trump is reported to be afraid that Florence will be his Katrina. I suspect he is finally, after all this time, beginning to understand that PR/Maria already was.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 4:59:59pm

re: #308 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking of:

It’s Not Just the President* Who Ought to Be Sweating Today

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Yes, I brought that up to my Mom when I brought up potentials for Manafort to give up. Pence is there because of Manafort, if Corey or Bannon were there at the time Trump picked his running mate, Pence would still be trying to waste Indiana’s tax dollars on reparative therapy and hiding from Mother when he’s bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:00:51pm

re: #311 A Cranky One

Trump is reported to be afraid that Florence will be his Katrina. I suspect he is finally, after all this time, beginning to understand that PR/Maria already was.

He could just do all us a favor and turn himself in to Mueller now. Maybe if he’s lucky, he’ll get out to see Barron change his name like Manafort’s daughter did.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:01:29pm

re: #297 HappyWarrior

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:01:42pm

re: #302 Scout

Dear Little Green Footballs,

Sorry to go off topic, but what do you make of this?

The company for which I worked moved last weekend into a new building. The hallways and conference rooms have lots of works by professional photographers. This is hanging on the wall of a hallway leading to a conference room.

Leni Riefenstahl

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My first thought: I wonder if that’s an original.
My second thought: If so, is it valuable?
My third thought: What am I thinking?

Dog whistle of historic proportions.

Hitler saw Leni Riefenstahl as a director who could use aesthetics to produce an image of a strong Germany imbued with Wagnerian motifs of power and beauty.

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:01:50pm

re: #226 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ah, you’re back. I haven’t felt that kind of withdrawal panic since I quit smoking.

What was that suspicious 76 minute gap in the tape?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:02:23pm

re: #311 A Cranky One

Trump is reported to be afraid that Florence will be his Katrina. I suspect he is finally, after all this time, beginning to understand that PR/Maria already was.

And the more he talks about it, the less time FAUX has to convince their audience that Maria happened on Obama’s watch before the 2020 election.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:03:17pm

re: #314 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:03:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:06:01pm

re: #317 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And the more he talks about it, the less time FAUX has to convince their audience that Maria happened on Obama’s watch before the 2020 election.

I wonder if the day will come when even Fox gets tired of making excuses for him and just starts to treat him how they do Bush now where Lou Dobbs calls Bush a raging liberal and FNC forgets their role in attacking all liberal critics of the Bush administration. Hell you got deluded assholes like Shapiro who already tell themselves that Trump is a “leftist” because of his stances on trade because they’re too chicken shit to admit that Trump is one of them.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:07:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:11:51pm

re: #321 Barefoot Grin

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They hate Mueller because they know he’s a seasoned pro who was getting perps while Trump was doing blow. Rhyme intentional but more in tribute to Mueller’s lifetime of public service.

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Scout  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:12:40pm

re: #309 Charles Johnson

If it’s a reproduction you have a Nazi somewhere close by.

Thanks very much for your reply.

While that is certainly very possible, it could also just be plain ignorance (meaning lack of education). I’m sure there are a lot of people who have never even heard the name Leni Riefenstahl, let alone understand her place in history. I mean, my god, think of those people in the Jay Leno street interviews who don’t know what country Paris is in, let alone who fought who in World War II.

In any event, I’m going to see what management thinks of this and see about taking it down. Maybe a reputable museum or university archive would appreciate it as a donation (if it’s authentic).

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:13:09pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

Dog whistle of historic proportions.

There’s no doubt that Riefenstahl was an immensely talented filmmaker, but her gifts were dedicated to one of the worst causes in human history.

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Targetpractice  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:14:01pm

If we lived in a country with a competent press, they might now devote some time to calling out every Republican who insisted that Al Franken resign over just two allegations. After all, he had a letter from all the women who knew him that vouched for his character, and they knew him more recently that high school.

But we don’t, so we’re going to get uncritical reporting about a “letter” that the GOP whipped out of their ass a day after the allegations dropped.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:14:30pm

re: #325 Targetpractice

If we lived in a country with a competent press, they might now devote some time to calling out every Republican who insisted that Al Franken resign over just two allegations. After all, he had a letter from all the women who knew him that vouched for his character, and they knew him more recently that high school.

But we don’t, so we’re going to get uncritical reporting about a “letter” that the GOP whipped out of their ass a day after the allegations dropped.

That’s very true.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:17:15pm

re: #315 wrenchwench

Dog whistle of historic proportions.

Interestingly, since I haven’t seen that photograph nor name of the photographer before, it struck me immediately as coming from the Nazi era and I was wondering if that was Hitler propaganda.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:18:59pm

Just checked Google Images and that’s definitely Riefenstahl’s signature. This is from an image of a signed photograph.

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:19:03pm

re: #327 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Interestingly, since I haven’t seen that photograph nor name of the photographer before, it struck me immediately as coming from the Nazi era and I was wondering if that was Hitler propaganda.

You and Scout can hear those dog whistles. In a good way.

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Scout  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:19:29pm

re: #327 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Interestingly, since I haven’t seen that photograph nor name of the photographer before, it struck me immediately as coming from the Nazi era and I was wondering if that was Hitler propaganda.

A really weird thing about this: That is the only photo I zeroed in on and checked the name. I wonder if that says anything about me as a human being.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:21:57pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

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Jay C  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:22:05pm

re: #330 Scout

A really weird thing about this: That is the only photo I zeroed in on and checked the name. I wonder if that says anything about me as a human being.

It says you’re really perceptive?

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:23:19pm

re: #330 Scout

A really weird thing about this: That is the only photo I zeroed in on and checked the name. I wonder if that says anything about me as a human being.

She was good at art. It’s on a wall, free of context. You have a good eye. Or two.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:24:55pm

re: #329 wrenchwench

You and Scout can hear those dog whistles. In a good way.

Comes from watching a lot of documentaries and reading a lot of history. ;-)

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:25:20pm

re: #330 Scout

A really weird thing about this: That is the only photo I zeroed in on and checked the name. I wonder if that says anything about me as a human being.

Yes, all good!

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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:26:09pm

re: #334 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Comes from watching a lot of documentaries and reading a lot of history. ;-)

You have pre-installed context. Good work.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:26:57pm

re: #331 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:27:18pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:28:41pm

re: #330 Scout

A really weird thing about this: That is the only photo I zeroed in on and checked the name. I wonder if that says anything about me as a human being.

Her images are undeniably powerful. That’s why it grabbed your attention. But seriously - an authentic large portrait photo like this signed by Riefenstahl herself is probably very valuable. I think the image might be from the 1936 Olympics.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:30:26pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Too many people in our government have ties to the former pro Putin government of Ukraine.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:31:42pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

Her images are undeniably powerful. That’s why it grabbed your attention. But seriously - an authentic large portrait photo like this signed by Riefenstahl herself is probably very valuable. I think the image might be from the 1936 Olympics.

I think you’re right. The image to me looks like an athletic one and we know she documented the Olympics. How it got here, that’s an interesting mystery to ponder.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:32:41pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

Her images are undeniably powerful. That’s why it grabbed your attention. But seriously - an authentic large portrait photo like this signed by Riefenstahl herself is probably very valuable. I think the image might be from the 1936 Olympics.

It’s been years since I’ve seen it, but to me that looks like a still from the opening of the movie Olympia, about the Olympics.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:33:58pm

It’s crazy to think she was alive well into my teen years. All this wasn’t that long ago.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:34:19pm

Yes, it’s definitely from the 1936 Olympics, from her book of photographs, “Schönheit im Olympischen Kampf.”

Here’s another image from the book, staged similarly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:34:51pm

lots of google hits using “leni riefenstahl jump rope” keywords

It *is* from the 1936 Olympics.

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Jay C  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:34:52pm

re: #339 Charles Johnson

Her images are undeniably powerful. That’s why it grabbed your attention. But seriously - an authentic large portrait photo like this signed by Riefenstahl herself is probably very valuable. I think the image might be from the 1936 Olympics.

It’s certainly athletics-related: “seilspringer” means “rope-jumper” (which is what those girls are doing - duhhh!): though it probably well may be Olympics-related.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:37:28pm

re: #342 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Here’s the whole thing:

Leni Riefenstahl: Olympia - Festival of Beauty (1936)

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:39:31pm

re: #327 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Interestingly, since I haven’t seen that photograph nor name of the photographer before, it struck me immediately as coming from the Nazi era and I was wondering if that was Hitler propaganda.

One of the innovations Riefenstahl was super-famous for was that perspective of framing from below, in order to make the people in the image appear heroic. Photographers and cinematographers just didn’t do that before her; painters generally hadn’t done that either.

theconversation.com
Leni Riefenstahl: both feminist icon and fascist film-maker

Riefenstahl, like many other celebrities of the Third Reich, was wise enough to destroy incriminating evidence at the end of World War II and created the image of herself as a naïve opportunist through interviews, autobiographies and - often enough - libel cases.

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Riefenstahl would later claim that Goebbels hated her and only Hitler’s patronage spared her from trouble. But this has never been substantially backed up by evidence. Riefenstahl’s acquaintance with Hitler goes back to 1932 when they met for the first time - after she wrote to him requesting a meeting.

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After the Nazi Party came to power in January 1933, Riefenstahl turned her close links to Hitler into a profitable venture. Riefenstahl was commissioned to produce films on the annual Nazi Party rallies in Nuremberg 1933 and 1934, Victory of Faith and Triumph of the Will, respectively. The latter, in particular, is regarded as a cinematic milestone for using novel techniques in visual storytelling.

Riefenstahl would defend herself after the war by saying that these, like her two movies on the Berlin Olympics, were documentaries rather than propaganda movies - there is no narrator in the film and thus no explicitly stated political agenda. But when you see the films, there is really no need for a narrator. The opening sequence of Triumph of the Will is a plane carrying Hitler to Nuremberg, to be greeted by an enthusiastic crowd upon landing. This descent from the heavens echoes Nazi propaganda that Hitler was sent by providence to rescue Germany.

If I worked at your office… I’d tell the boss that photo makes me uncomfortable and ask that it be removed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:39:41pm

Regarding the DNA stuff, it amuses me seeing people insist their results can’t possibly be right. We like to think of old times people staying in place but people did migrate. Anyone remember Macron’s predecessor in France, Hollande? There’s a reason why that’s his surname.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:40:28pm

He has the best information about anything at his fingertips, one of the largest intelligence apparatuses in human history. Yet he fucking watches Fox News all day. What a disgrace.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:42:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:44:35pm

re: #350 teleskiguy

He has the best information about anything at his fingertips, one of the largest intelligence apparatuses in human history. Yet he fucking watches Fox News all day. What a disgrace.

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Ed Eollins and Lou Dobbs who probably never once stepped foot in PR. This is just pathetic. First he denied the death toll. Now he seems to be “admitting “ it but letting his apologists blame the PR government and the media. This is disgraceful and someone needs to smack both of these propagandists.

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Jay C  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:44:36pm

re: #346 Jay C

ADD: it’s value would be more-easily determined if there was a number on it - ideally on the front: but as usual with old “edition” photos, it may be inscribed on the back.

Suggestion: get the office management to take the photo down (as Nazi propaganda), then examine the back of it (often the more-interesting side of an artwork) to see what’s on it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:44:58pm

re: #351 Charles Johnson

And here’s that exact image.

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Awesome research Charles

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gocart mozart  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:45:43pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:46:04pm

If I found that photo (framed so nicely) For $5.00 at a yard sale, I’d but it and offer it to the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, or whoever might want it.

Instead, I found this one. It hangs in my shop. It’s coming with me when I clear out.

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freetoken  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:46:29pm

re: #349 HappyWarrior

Regarding DNA tests - the genealogical value is in the relatives one finds in the databases. I know they have been of use to me in correcting my family tree.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:47:25pm

MS-13! OOGA BOOGA!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:47:59pm

re: #355 gocart mozart

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Murphy is awesome.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:48:47pm

re: #357 freetoken

Regarding DNA tests - the genealogical value is in the relatives one finds in the databases. I know they have been of use to me in correcting my family tree.

Absolutely! I’ve found many including two of my travel companions from my last trip.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:50:11pm

re: #358 teleskiguy

MS-13! OOGA BOOGA!!!

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Exploiting another death, sick fuck. No words for Mr. Jean in Texas of course.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:50:57pm

re: #350 teleskiguy

He has the best information about anything at his fingertips, one of the largest intelligence apparatuses in human history. Yet he fucking watches Fox News all day. What a disgrace.

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“The President was really great at rebuilding the electrical stuff.”

This is how you talk to a 6 year old.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:51:20pm

re: #350 teleskiguy

He has the best information about anything at his fingertips, one of the largest intelligence apparatuses in human history. Yet he fucking watches Fox News all day. What a disgrace.

“The people of Puerto Rico have one of the most corrupt governments in our country.”

Aren’t they all appointed by the Executive Branch? So…maybe.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:51:40pm

re: #362 Eclectic Cyborg

“The President was really great at rebuilding the electrical stuff.”

This is how you tall to a 6 year old.

Well they are talking to Trump himself so?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:52:56pm

Wow, I didn’t realize Riefenstahl lived to be 101.

She died in 2003.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:54:14pm

If a Democrat fucked up the disaster relief for a very red state or a very white state, we’d hear that they were being punished for being Republican or white by the very people who blame Puerto Rico on FNC for what happened. This is fucking sick. It’s fucking sick how Trump refuses to take any responsibility for what happened. It’s fucking sick how FNC is always there to pat him on his fat orange ass and tell him “It’s all right, Donald, you did great, it’s the media, Democrats, etc’s fault that you’re being criticized.” FNC really is a disgrace to the total concept of what a free media is supposed to be. The media isn’t supposed to be the President’s voice and FNC has been the past two years.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:54:57pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

Some intern was using the Trump account to RT weather reports but he grabbed his phone back.

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“They say all these people died in the storm in Puerto Rico, yet 70% of the power was out before the storm. So when did people start dying? At what point do you recognize that what they are doing is a political agenda couched in the nice language of journalism?” /blockquote>

Proximate cause
Look it up

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:57:44pm

re: #350 teleskiguy

He has the best information about anything at his fingertips, one of the largest intelligence apparatuses in human history. Yet he fucking watches Fox News all day. What a disgrace.

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Also, he watches Fox News because Fox tells him what he wants to hear in language he can understand. It’s a big fucking ego stroke.

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2018 • 5:58:04pm

re: #365 Eclectic Cyborg

Makes you think. This stuff didn’t happen that long ago, it’s not ancient history. Ruby Bridges, first black child to desegregate public schools in Louisiana, just turned 64.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:00:09pm

re: #369 teleskiguy

Makes you think. This stuff didn’t happen that long ago, it’s not ancient history. Ruby Bridges, first black child to desegregate public schools in Louisiana, just turned 64.

I need to find the documentary that talks about that and show my kids. Their grandfather is 10 years older than that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:00:16pm

re: #368 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, he watches Fox News because Fox tells him what he wants to hear in language he can understand. It’s a big fucking ego stroke.

That really is the only thing FNC does now is to reassure Turmp that nothing is ever his fault. It’s disgusting and he enjoys it because he loves them kissing his fat orange ass and telling him that it’s the mean old media, Democrats, etc that are being mean to him and that he’s the best President ever. Pretty rich shit considering FNC’s hacks complained about any praise of Obama the past eight years but meanwhile they’re literally spoonfeeding the President his talking points. Can you imagine Obama using Twitter to quote Rachel, Lawrence, or any liberal pundit the way Trump does the pundits on FNC?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:01:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:02:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:02:17pm

re: #369 teleskiguy

Makes you think. This stuff didn’t happen that long ago, it’s not ancient history. Ruby Bridges, first black child to desegregate public schools in Louisiana, just turned 64.

Shit, my own grandfather was a co-worker of the Loving plaintiff. And Mom was 8 when SCOTUS ruled that interracial marriage was Constitutional. We get numbskulls like Trump because people forget that history isn’t as distant as they want to believe. John Lewis is still with us today with his scars both physical and emotional from Selma. And it’s very possible had he not been killed, MLK would be with us today too approaching 90.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:03:32pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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teleskiguy  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:03:56pm

re: #370 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I need to find the documentary that talks about that and show my kids. Their grandfather is 10 years older than that.

Norman Rockwell made a painting called “A Problem We All Live With” based on Ruby Bridges.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:05:40pm

re: #372 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How fucking hard is it to just do your job and not violate all the rules and regulations, cheating the taxpayers? Jeezus fucking Christ.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:08:08pm

re: #377 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

How fucking hard is it to just do your job and not violate all the rules and regulations, cheating the taxpayers? Jeezus fucking Christ.

With this administration, very apparently. Hear about Nikki’s curtains and maid today? I think that’s what infuriates me about the Trump base the most btw. They claimed to have embraced him because they were “tired” of Washington shit like that. Where’s their anger? Oh wait, they cheer him on like a bunch of sieg heiling jackasses whenever they go to his rallies. And then their propaganda tells them that Trump not only is sound mentally which he clearly isn’t but he’s the most ever. There’s so much fucking wrong with the right wing movement in this country and it sucks because we need sensible opposition. I’m okay with the libertarians emerging as that to the left but they have their own problems too.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:08:24pm

I’ve also got to find a good documentary on 9-11 (if anyone has any suggestions…I have Hulu and Amazon) for my eldest to watch so she has a better understanding of what happened that day. She wasn’t born yet and she has a writing assignment for her English class.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:10:05pm

re: #379 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve also got to find a good documentary on 9-11 (if anyone has any suggestions…I have Hulu and Amazon) for my eldest to watch so she has a better understanding of what happened that day. She wasn’t born yet and she has a writing assignment for her English class.

imdb.com

The Woman Who Wasn’t There. Infuriating but fascinating.

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TedStriker  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:11:39pm

re: #377 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

How fucking hard is it to just do your job and not violate all the rules and regulations, cheating the taxpayers? Jeezus fucking Christ.

When Trump’s the president (and the person who is Long’s boss) and he does things like this and more on a grand scale with little to no ill effect, why wouldn’t you take advantage of the situation? He knows that the DHS IG’s report doesn’t mean shit as long as he can keep Trump in his corner to stay on the job by kissing and slobbering all over his massive ass.

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dangerman  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:14:52pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

The problem isn’t merely that Trump is unfit to be President, he’s unfit to be a decent human being too. He just cannot show any real empathy. Everything comes back to one person in the end and that’s Donald J. Trump and how this is good or bad for him. All politicians are narcissistic but this guy, man.

His personality is anathema to public service and the presidency specifically

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:15:03pm

I honestly don’t know what pisses me off more that Trump seriously thinks he can just go to FNC and live tweet them kissing his ass as if that totally invalidates any criticism of him or changes what has happened or that FNC does it. For all the complaining Trump does about the media, he’s had one major network that will excuse anything he does. I’m waiting for Trump to shit on a flag and FNC to excuse it somehow.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:15:56pm

re: #382 dangerman

His personality is anathema to public service and the presidency specifically

Yep. They should have just let him eat himself to death and let him be remembered as that guy with the stupid reality show and “You’re Fired.” Even when I was 8 in the mid 90’s, I could see right through him as the shallow man he really is.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:17:40pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

imdb.com

The Woman Who Wasn’t There. Infuriating but fascinating.

That does look fascinating, but I’d like to stick with something that doesn’t have an imposter in it…though I’m sure my dark daughter would like it!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:18:47pm

re: #381 TedStriker

When Trump’s the president (and the person who is Long’s boss) and he does things like this and more on a grand scale with little to no ill effect, why wouldn’t you take advantage of the situation? He knows that the DHS IG’s report doesn’t mean shit as long as he can keep Trump in his corner to stay on the job by kissing and slobbering all over his massive ass.

I could never do that. My moral compass wouldn’t allow it. Does anyone have a moral compass anymore? (asks the atheist)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:19:11pm

re: #385 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

That does look fascinating, but I’d like to stick with something that doesn’t have an imposter in it…though I’m sure my dark daughter would like it!

Hmmm. Don’t know of any others off hand but yeah I’d still recommend that one to her in her spare time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:22:40pm

I really thought that it was almost universally agreed that Donald Trump was a sad attention seeking clown until two years ago. God, my dad’s father was terrified by the possibility of Reagan becoming President. What the hell would he say about a man like Trump. Big Dad as we call him was a NLRB lifer, along with his brother the first college graduates in his family and TBH probably the first ever in my direct line. He was kind, compassionate, intelligent, loyal, etc. Everything that Trump ain’t.

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prairiefire  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:23:32pm

re: #356 wrenchwench

Are you retiring?

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fern01  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:27:08pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]
PM has no info on President or campaign

Pull the other one. It’s got bells on it.

Which makes one wonder what info exists on the President and the campaign that PM does not know?

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b_sharp  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:40:20pm

re: #124 William Lewis

Ah that is so much freaking better.

Today is payday. First big check from the new job.

Just got back from the Pawn shop. All my stuff back.

But most important - MY AMP!!!! I can rattle my windows again. It may only be 6 watts but those tubes can scream with a push from the Boss DS1 makes me a joyful noise!

It’s Friday, I don’t work till tomorrow afternoon so I got nothing better to do - I’m gonna go buy some beer, a little bit of whiskey and ROCK!

why yes, I’m feeling happy to have a job I actually like that pays better than anything I’ve had for 2004…

Excellent dude.

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majii  Sep 14, 2018 • 6:43:25pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

“Dory was really making it hard for me to comment on FB this morning. Hard to type with a handful of sleeping puppy….”

I can definitely understand that. Penelope Penny will try to climb on my lap while my laptop is already on my lap! She always wants to claim my lap as her personal property.

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sagehen  Sep 14, 2018 • 7:37:49pm

re: #379 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve also got to find a good documentary on 9-11 (if anyone has any suggestions…I have Hulu and Amazon) for my eldest to watch so she has a better understanding of what happened that day. She wasn’t born yet and she has a writing assignment for her English class.

imdb.com

These two french filmmakers were doing a somewhat routine documentary about a New York City rookie firefighter, and happened to be there that day. They saw the plane overhead, they rushed to the scene and were in the building until everyone got ordered out….

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Teukka  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:38:42pm

re: #333 wrenchwench

She was good at art. It’s on a wall, free of context. You have a good eye. Or two.

Is it a simple photograph, or is it a still from one of Riefenstahl’s films?

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austin_blue  Sep 14, 2018 • 8:42:30pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

If a Democrat fucked up the disaster relief for a very red state or a very white state, we’d hear that they were being punished for being Republican or white by the very people who blame Puerto Rico on FNC for what happened. This is fucking sick. It’s fucking sick how Trump refuses to take any responsibility for what happened. It’s fucking sick how FNC is always there to pat him on his fat orange ass and tell him “It’s all right, Donald, you did great, it’s the media, Democrats, etc’s fault that you’re being criticized.” FNC really is a disgrace to the total concept of what a free media is supposed to be. The media isn’t supposed to be the President’s voice and FNC has been the past two years.

But a Democratic President wouldn’t do that. He would make sure that FEMA was competently staffed and funded and deliver a quality response, as his job demanded.

When was the last time a Democratic FEMA response was substandard, regardless of where it happened?


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