California Professor Goes Public, Speaks Out About Sexual Assault Allegation Against Brett Kavanaugh: ā€œI Thought He Might Kill Meā€

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Will this derail Brett Kavanaughā€™s Supreme Court nomination?

Or will we witness ā€” yet again ā€” an amoral, power-hungry Republican Party ramming through his confirmation anyway?

Speaking publicly for the first time, Ford said that one summer in the early 1980s, Kavanaugh and a friend ā€” both ā€œstumbling drunk,ā€ Ford alleges ā€” corralled her into a bedroom during a gathering of teenagers at a house in Montgomery County.

While his friend watched, she said, Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed on her back and groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it. When she tried to scream, she said, he put his hand over her mouth.

ā€œI thought he might inadvertently kill me,ā€ said Ford, now a 51-year-old research psychologist in northern California. ā€œHe was trying to attack me and remove my clothing.ā€

Ford said she was able to escape when Kavanaughā€™s friend and classmate at Georgetown Preparatory School, Mark Judge, jumped on top of them, sending all three tumbling. She said she ran from the room, briefly locked herself in a bathroom and then fled the house.

This was an incredibly brave step for Professor Ford to take, because she undoubtedly knew what kind of harassment and threats will now be coming her way from the army of deranged Trump cultists.

Ohā€¦ and by the way, Kavanaughā€™s friend Mark Judge has written at least one piece attacking a rape victim for Holocaust denier Chuck C. Johnsonā€™s blog, too.

UPDATE at 9/16/18 12:43:15 pm by Charles Johnson

The smear beginsā€¦

UPDATE at 9/16/18 6:08:40 pm by Charles Johnson

For reference, hereā€™s the same GotNews page referenced above, stored at archiveā€¢is, another popular archiving site.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:18:19am

Maybe pick a better character witness next time Brett. I think thereā€™s definitely something to this allegation. Sheā€™s made her name known, the couples therapy bit in 2012, and telling her husband what had happened to her.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:22:32am

Credible allegations. Again.

That idiotic letter signed to by dozens of women doesnā€™t matter nearly as much as this womanā€™s claims that are credible.

The GOP wont care; theyā€™re determined to pack the court with misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Thatā€™s the goal. Thatā€™s the end game, and they will do anything they can to make that happen, even if it means packing the Court with another sex predator.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:23:40am

Are hearings continuing this week, or are they done?

I want Harris and Booker up in Kavanaughā€™s shirt about this. Hammer him long enough and heā€™ll say something stupid.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:23:43am

from the end of downstairs

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:25:03am

Guess who else attended Georgetown Prep at the same time?
Neil Gorsuch

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:25:17am

re: #3 makeitstop

Are hearings continuing this week, or are they done?

I want Harris and Booker up in Kavanaughā€™s shirt about this. Hammer him long enough and heā€™ll say something stupid.

I think if they will, the ugly little man that muttered bitch seeing HRC testify will come out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:25:38am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Guess who else attended Georgetown Prep at the same time?
Neil Gorsuch

Thatā€™s fucking eerie. But Trumpā€™s guys are outsiders. //

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:29:18am

The party that supports flying the Confederate flag IS the party of rapists.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:29:51am

re: #8 jaunte

The party that supports flying the Confederate flag IS the party of rapists.

Racist rapists.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:30:44am

Here come the liars.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:32:47am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:33:28am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Here come the liars.

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These fucking people.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:34:13am

re: #11 jaunte

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Go fuck yourself Erick, seriously. She canā€™t win with pigs like you. All you care about is getting Roe, Obergefell, and all reversed.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:34:29am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:34:58am

This person walks the streetsā€¦ Now, Walking! And making burgersticks.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:36:05am

re: #14 jaunte

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Yeah sheā€™s a ā€œbitchā€ because sheā€™s getting in the way of your smug face Judge Kavanaugh getting his lifetime court appointment. I fucking hate these assholes.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:36:24am

Even as we knew that Ben Shapiro was pushing agitprop and misinformation all while lying to the public, it turns out that his role in Trumpworld and Manafortā€™s actions was never fully identifiedā€¦. until now:

The Israeli official involved in all this is far right Defense Minister Avigor Lieberman. The Trumpworld criminal syndicate is aligned with the far right elsewhere in the world, from Russia and Ukraine to Israel.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:36:58am

re: #2 lawhawk

Credible allegations. Again.

That idiotic letter signed to by dozens of women doesnā€™t matter nearly as much as this womanā€™s claims that are credible.

The GOP wont care; theyā€™re determined to pack the court with misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Thatā€™s the goal. Thatā€™s the end game, and they will do anything they can to make that happen, even if it means packing the Court with another sex predator.

It sure is putting pressure on Collins though. Murkowski too. And maybe the Soft Action Three: Flake, Corker and Sasse even feel a bit more heat.

Kavanaugh is not good for women. Letā€™s hope there are a ton of women on the right really paying attention.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:36:59am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:37:49am

re: #17 lawhawk

Even as we knew that Ben Shapiro was pushing agitprop and misinformation all while lying to the public, it turns out that his role in Trumpworld and Manafortā€™s actions was never fully identifiedā€¦. until now:

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The Israeli official involved in all this is far right Defense Minister Avigor Lieberman. The Trumpworld criminal syndicate is aligned with the far right elsewhere in the world, from Russia and Ukraine to Israel.

He didnā€™t deserve credibility to start with. Now he really needs to sink away and fade into obscurity like he deserves. Would love to see him on the stand. It wonā€™t be one of his stupid little debates.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:37:50am
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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:38:15am

re: #3 makeitstop

Are hearings continuing this week, or are they done?

I want Harris and Booker up in Kavanaughā€™s shirt about this. Hammer him long enough and heā€™ll say something stupid.

I think the public hearings are over. It is all up to the Democrats and the media to do whatever now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:38:52am

re: #19 jaunte

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Yep. I really think thereā€™s something to this guys. This definitely merits investigation and re-affirms my belief that the FBI was wrong to drop it.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:42:19am
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:43:13am

re: #11 jaunte

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Now, here comes the next round. First the accuser wants to be anonymous. Then the accuser says she came forward because of the meanie reporters outting her. Now she and the Dems will demand she get wall to wall media coverage

Which has what to do with the facts?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:43:58am

Is it so hard to find a conservative judge who hasnā€™t attempted rape as a teenager?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:44:20am

Tom Nichols just canā€™t help being a right wing asshole when the chips are down.

This goes WAY BEYOND ā€œstupid high school shit.ā€

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:44:24am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:45:14am

re: #24 jaunte

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That kind of attitude is even worse than denying it IMO. FFS, yeah Tom, we all did do stupid shit at 17. I under-aged drank, smoked pot, tried cigarettes, was an immature dick to my parents, but I never made a woman fear for her life and most of all, Kavanaughā€™s never faced any negative repercussions because of this. Meanwhile the Professor was definitely traumatized by the event. Fuck this. This really shows that the so called Never Trump right are just as ugly people as the Trump right are. Itā€™s all about getting their fucking Federalist Society judges on the court in the end.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:45:46am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Tom Nichols just canā€™t help being a right wing asshole when the chips are down.

This goes WAY BEYOND ā€œstupid high school shit.ā€

Once a right wing douchewad, always a right wing douchewad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:46:11am

re: #26 jaunte

Is it so hard to find a conservative judge who hasnā€™t attempted rape as a teenager?

Alito but he was busy being a dick to the PoC attending Princeton.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:48:53am

re: #2 lawhawk

Credible allegations. Again.

That idiotic letter signed to by dozens of women doesnā€™t matter nearly as much as this womanā€™s claims that are credible.

The GOP wont care; theyā€™re determined to pack the court with misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Thatā€™s the goal. Thatā€™s the end game, and they will do anything they can to make that happen, even if it means packing the Court with another sex predator.

Surely the Federalist Society has a whole bunch of misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Why are they so intent on THIS one? Theyā€™ve got to have somebody whoā€™s lived the Eagle Scout life and has no skeletons.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:49:02am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:49:07am

re: #25 dangerman

Which has what to do with the facts?

Yeah itā€™s not like if a Democratic judicial nominee was revealed to have this happen that the GOP and their allies in the media would not pounce on it. Complaining that this is being politicized is stupid. The right chose to present Kavanaugh as something he isnā€™t. All Brett Kavanaugh is a GOP careerist who got rewarded first by W Bush and now is by Trump .

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:50:35am

re: #33 Barefoot Grin

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The more I learn about this guy the more I think his hard-on against Bill Clinton was due to his own desire to compensate for being a total sexist prick.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:50:35am

A lot of us did stupid stuff at 17. Some of us did stupid stuff at 25.

Most of us didnā€™t engage in sex assaults.

Sex assaults are among the most vile crimes and we continue to victimize the victims when they do come forward.

Kavanaugh didnā€™t do just do stupid stuff.

Heā€™s alleged to have engaged in sex assault. Thatā€™s a felony. And at age 17, that means getting treated as an adult in most jurisdictions.

If youā€™re black, youā€™d be damned sure that theyā€™d treat you as an adult with the same allegations. So yeah, this matters.

This matters a lot.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:51:22am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:51:36am

re: #36 lawhawk

A lot of us did stupid stuff at 17. Some of us did stupid stuff at 25.

Most of us didnā€™t engage in sex assaults.

Sex assaults are among the most vile crimes and we continue to victimize the victims when they do come forward.

Kavanaugh didnā€™t do just do stupid stuff.

Heā€™s alleged to have engaged in sex assault. Thatā€™s a felony. And at age 17, that means getting treated as an adult in most jurisdictions.

If youā€™re black, youā€™d be damned sure that theyā€™d treat you as an adult with the same allegations. So yeah, this matters.

This matters a lot.

Heā€™s also never faced any negative repercussions because of this. He got the Yale education, the Starr job, the WH job, the federal judgeship, and now the icing on the cake.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:52:00am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

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But enough about Justice Thomas sigh. Two of them.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:52:32am

re: #32 sagehen

Surely the Federalist Society has a whole bunch of misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Why are they so intent on THIS one? Theyā€™ve got to have somebody whoā€™s lived the Eagle Scout life and has no skeletons.

IMO, because heā€™s the most definite about a sitting President being immune to investigation or indictment.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:53:46am

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

IMO, because heā€™s the most definite about a sitting President being immune to investigation or indictment.

Yes, this has been his career.

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:54:07am

re: #32 sagehen

Surely the Federalist Society has a whole bunch of misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Why are they so intent on THIS one? Theyā€™ve got to have somebody whoā€™s lived the Eagle Scout life and has no skeletons.

Assumes facts not in evidence. That they have someone who has no skeletons.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:54:19am

re: #33 Barefoot Grin

Thereā€™s a lot of new detail in this story. Among other things, Kavanaughā€™s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, contacted the Washington Post and Feinstein in July, and took a polygraph in August, but then decided she didnā€™t want to come forward.

Betcha a buck lie detectors will all of a sudden be totally unreliable now.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:54:23am
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:55:35am

re: #32 sagehen

Surely the Federalist Society has a whole bunch of misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Why are they so intent on THIS one? Theyā€™ve got to have somebody whoā€™s lived the Eagle Scout life and has no skeletons.

I wonder what chief justice Roberts is thinking right now

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:56:06am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Tom Nichols just canā€™t help being a right wing asshole when the chips are down.

This goes WAY BEYOND ā€œstupid high school shit.ā€

Iā€™ve said it beforeā€¦I have never understood why anyone pays attention to him.

Iā€™ve always seen him as a hardcore trying to act soft, but then excusing it all away.

He would vote for someone like Flake, and be perfectly happy that he did.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:56:16am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Tom Nichols just canā€™t help being a right wing asshole when the chips are down.

This goes WAY BEYOND ā€œstupid high school shit.ā€

Lots of us made youthful mistakes. Some of those cap your place in life. So some of us find other than high political / judicial success in life. Those law and order conservatives donā€™t like that applied to well off white guys. RW ā€œLaw and orderā€ is really for poor people.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:56:45am

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

IMO, because heā€™s the most definite about a sitting President being immune to investigation or indictment.

Apparently he hit the shortlist due to his efforts to deny an abortion to the minor immigrant woman, and the deal was sealed when Trump found out about his positions on Presidential immunity, as you say.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:58:35am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 11:59:57am

re: #47 Unshaken Defiance

Lots of us made youthful mistakes. Some of those cap your place in life. So some of us find other than high political / judicial success in life. Those law and order conservatives donā€™t like that applied to well off white guys. RW ā€œLaw and orderā€ is really for poor people.

Itā€™s just pathetic. Treyvon Martin having been suspended from school one time made him a thug according to these same people and deserving of death. Kavanaugh doing something much worse. Oh? No big deal, we were all kids once guys? Itā€™s not like this should deny him a position on the highest court of the land. Kavanaughā€™s gotten away with this his entire adult life with no accountability. He wonā€™t apologize to Professor Ford and he sure as hell wonā€™t withdraw his nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:00:30pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

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That is why I believe her.

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Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:02:27pm

re: #45 dangerman

I wonder what chief justice Roberts is thinking right now

He will do whatever it takes to get that 5th vote to kill every liberal action since the New Deal!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:03:10pm

re: #52 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

He will do whatever it takes to get that 5th vote to kill every liberal action since the New Deal!

I hate to grudgingly defend Roberts but he didnā€™t kill ACA. I still canā€™t stand him mind you.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:03:56pm

re: #24 jaunte

Youā€™re going to see that thrown around over the next few days: ā€œYOU wouldnā€™t want to be judged by something you did when you were a teenager or young adult, would you?ā€

Oh, and then theyā€™ll go after Beto for his DWI.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:04:10pm

The Nazis and Russian Trolls are already attempting to defend the rapists by claiming lie detectors are not admissible and, hence, such evidence is proof sheā€™s a soros paid, DNC operative.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:05:22pm

re: #54 Belafon

Youā€™re going to see that thrown around over the next few days: ā€œYOU wouldnā€™t want to be judged by something you did when you were a teenager or young adult, would you?ā€

Oh, and then theyā€™ll go after Beto for his DWI.

Exactly. When I thought this was him potentially going with a girlfriend who was slightly younger than him to have sex out of state. Okay? So maybe heā€™s just a moralizing hypocritical jerk but thatā€™s not a reason to deny him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:06:00pm

re: #55 Dr. Matt

The Nazis and Russian Trolls are already attempting to defend the rapists by claiming lie detectors are not admissible and, hence, such evidence is proof sheā€™s a soros paid, DNC operative.

Didnā€™t Pence literally just offer to take one to prove it wasnā€™t him that wrote the Op-Ed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:06:35pm

The lie detector doesnā€™t mean much to me but what does is that she talked about this with her husband and in 2012 too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:07:44pm

re: #32 sagehen

Surely the Federalist Society has a whole bunch of misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Why are they so intent on THIS one? Theyā€™ve got to have somebody whoā€™s lived the Eagle Scout life and has no skeletons.

When and where did Justice Kennedyā€™s boys go to school? Thereā€™s significant history between Kavanaugh and Gorsuch (both attending Georgetown Prep at the same time, also the two both clerked for Kennedy at the same time.
How far do the incestuous relationships go?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:08:21pm

Trumpā€™s fans are sofa king stupid.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:08:29pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

When and where did Justice Kennedyā€™s boys go to school? Tehreā€™s significant history between Kavanaugh and Gorsuch (both attending Georgetown Prep at the same time, also the two both clerked for Kennedy at the same time.
How far do the incestuous relationships go?

Shit thatā€™s a good observation BWS.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:10:15pm

And of course that Trumpist came right back with something even stupider. Blocked.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:11:44pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Itā€™s just pathetic. Treyvon Martin having been suspended from school one time made him a thug according to these same people and deserving of death. Kavanaugh doing something much worse. Oh? No big deal, we were all kids once guys? Itā€™s not like this should deny him a position on the highest court of the land. Kavanaughā€™s gotten away with this his entire adult life with no accountability. He wonā€™t apologize to Professor Ford and he sure as hell wonā€™t withdraw his nomination.

a liar
gambler
alcoholic
And abuser of women

The Republican face of the supreme court

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:12:23pm

re: #51 HappyWarrior

That is why I believe her.

Yup
Years before he was on any supreme Court radar

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:13:44pm

re: #52 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

He will do whatever it takes to get that 5th vote to kill every liberal action since the New Deal!

Iā€™m not sure
He is developing a bit of a reputation as protective of the courts legacy
Iā€™m only guessing

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:14:03pm

re: #64 dangerman

Yup
Years before he was on any supreme Court radar

Yep. Smack dab in the middle of hte Obama years.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:16:04pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Trumpā€™s fans are sofa king stupid.

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ā€œGuessingā€ā€¦

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:16:09pm

re: #32 sagehen

Surely the Federalist Society has a whole bunch of misogynists intent on rolling back civil and voting rights, and overturn Roe. Why are they so intent on THIS one? Theyā€™ve got to have somebody whoā€™s lived the Eagle Scout life and has no skeletons.

The problem is that anyone with integrity then, probably still has integrity and canā€™t be ordered to vote as the bosses want him to.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:17:01pm

re: #68 William Lewis

The problem is that anyone with integrity then, probably still has integrity and canā€™t be ordered to vote as the bosses want him to.

I think for Kavanaugh itā€™s his extensive writings on executive privilege that has made him a favorite.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:17:31pm

re: #21 lawhawk

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Why didnā€™t she come forward sooner they ask? Because now his decisions will have direct implications/impacts in her (and all of our) lives.

A little story. Years ago when our company was expanding quickly there was this software architect that had come on. I heard him outside my cubicle talking about hiring people. I heard him say that he didnā€™t think the company should hire any developers over 30 years old. I blew it off at the time (I was early 50ā€™s at that time) since he was in another group separate from mine. Then I started hearing some gossip that he was going to switched to our group and put in charge. It was then I decided to go to HR and let them know in no uncertain terms that there was no fucking way I would work for him, and let them know the reason.

So I am still there and he has been gone a little while (not because of this incident). His thoughts were shitty but at the time wouldnā€™t affect me (and maybe I should have said something at the time, that is for another discussion). But once it was going to have a direct affect on me I had to speak out.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:19:25pm

If we see the usual pattern, other women will come out. This is rarely a one off thing. I hate to say this, but how many will or would it take before itā€™s taken seriously? Just hate that.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:19:48pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

When and where did Justice Kennedyā€™s boys go to school? Tehreā€™s significant history between Kavanaugh and Gorsuch (both attending Georgetown Prep at the same time, also the two both clerked for Kennedy at the same time.
How far do the incestuous relationships go?

In the last thread, someone on twitter brought up that Flake, Corker, and Graham all use an email service that the Russians hacked. All three were critical of Trump before the elections, but now two are resigning and Graham canā€™t kiss Trumpā€™s butt often enough. The implication being that the Russians might have something on them. I wonder if Kennedy, with his sudden resignation, also falls into that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:20:12pm

re: #72 Belafon

In the last thread, someone on twitter brought up that Flake, Corker, and Graham all use an email service that the Russians hacked. All three were critical of Trump before the elections, but now two are resigning and Graham canā€™t kiss Trumpā€™s butt often enough. The implication being that the Russians might have something on them. I wonder if Kennedy, with his sudden resignation, also falls into that.

I donā€™t even know anymore about anything sigh.

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William Lewis  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:20:15pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

I think for Kavanaugh itā€™s his extensive writings on executive privilege that has made him a favorite.

Thatā€™s just frosting on the Good German cake. He will always follow orders.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:20:51pm

re: #74 William Lewis

Thatā€™s just frosting on the Good German cake. He will always follow orders.

True but heā€™s a really good toadie.

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Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:21:47pm

re: #74 William Lewis

Thatā€™s just frosting on the Good German cake. He will always follow orders.

And itā€™s not even a good German Chocolate cakeā€¦

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:22:23pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:22:43pm

re: #24 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:24:18pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

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Sheā€™s noted as a registered Democrat and nothing else. God fucking ghouls.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:24:42pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

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Yep. Once a fucking abuser, always one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:25:21pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

And itā€™s not even a good German Chocolate cakeā€¦

they only claim that itā€™s chocolateā€¦

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:26:13pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

I think for Kavanaugh itā€™s his extensive writings on executive privilege that has made him a favorite.

The fundamental servility of the Right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:28:10pm

re: #77 Charles Johnson

I fucking hate these people:

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:28:17pm

Slut shaming is one of the most despicable (non violent) acts against a woman of them all. Itā€™s an attack on the soul.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:29:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:29:46pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

I fucking hate these people:

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35 you mathematically illiterate and she brought it up to her husband. But yeah what a bitch. The only bitches here are Brett Kavanaugh and his pal Judge who donā€™t know how to treat women. Men like that deserved their asses kicked.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:29:56pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Sheā€™s noted as a registered Democrat and nothing else. God fucking ghouls.

Thatā€™s enough for them to label someone a ā€œFar left activistā€

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:30:04pm

re: #84 Unshaken Defiance

Slut shaming is one of the most despicable (non violent) acts against a woman of them all. Itā€™s an attack on the soul.

Itā€™s unfortunately very much of what defines their ideology.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:30:42pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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I bet you Nichols has some ugly shit in his closet when it comes to women. Maybe not sexual abuse but definitely a history of treatign them like shit.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:31:10pm

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:32:10pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:32:29pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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I want to hear what stupid felonies they were committing in high school. Iā€™m sure law enforcement would like to hear about them also.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:32:51pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Heā€™s also never faced any negative repercussions because of this. He got the Yale education, the Starr job, the WH job, the federal judgeship, and now the icing on the cake.

re: #47 Unshaken Defiance

Lots of us made youthful mistakes. Some of those cap your place in life. So some of us find other than high political / judicial success in life. Those law and order conservatives donā€™t like that applied to well off white guys. RW ā€œLaw and orderā€ is really for poor people.

Mitch Daniels was GWBā€™s director of the Office of Management & Budget. Heā€™s the one who said the Iraq War would cost $50-60B. Total. Later, he was a two-term governor of Indiana (2005-2013). He did austerity, right-to-work, and privatized the highways. Fucking HIGHWAYS!!

Earlier in his lifeā€¦ while a student at Princeton, he was arrested for being a major drug dealer out of his dorm room. The search found shoeboxes full of pot, plus lots of pills and cocaine and LSD. He had a very good lawyer; his defense was ā€œoh, dude, thatā€™s my ex-roommateā€™s stuff, I didnā€™t know anything about it.ā€ His sentence was a $350 fine. He believes justice was served.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:33:06pm

re: #92 Eventual Carrion

I want to hear what stupid felonies they were committing in high school. Iā€™m sure law enforcement would like to hear about them also.

I do remember Romneyā€™s bullying a gay kid being shrugged off as no biggie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:33:42pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

Itā€™s amazing how these people think. I was with a buddy and some friends of his at a BBQ awhile back and we got to talking about about relationships and one his friends told a rather fucked up story, then he laughed and said ā€œbut really, sometimes a woman just needs a good slap or two to understand her place.ā€

This was followed by very awkward silence. I left about 20 minutes later.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:33:55pm

re: #93 sagehen

Mitch Daniels was GWBā€™s director of the Office of Management & Budget. Heā€™s the one who said the Iraq War would cost $50-60B. Total. Later, he was a two-term governor of Indiana (2005-2013). He did austerity, right-to-work, and privatized the highways. Fucking HIGHWAYS!!

Earlier in his lifeā€¦ while a student at Princeton, he was arrested for being a major drug dealer out of his dorm room. The search found shoeboxes full of pot, plus lots of pills and cocaine and LSD. He had a very good lawyer; his defense was ā€œoh, dude, thatā€™s my ex-roommateā€™s stuff, I didnā€™t know anything about it.ā€ His sentence was a $350 fine. He believes justice was served.

And people wonder why we talk about white privilege.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:34:46pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Itā€™s amazing how these people think. I was with a buddy and some friends of his at a BBQ awhile back and we got to talking about about relationships and one his friends told a rather fucked up story, then he laughed and said ā€œbut really, sometimes a woman just needs a good slap or two to understand her place.ā€

This was followed by very awkward silence. I left about 20 minutes later.

The worst is when they think they can trust you by opening up to it. No, I donā€™t find your racist/sexist jokes funny asshole.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:37:05pm
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:38:11pm

re: #78 goddamnedfrank

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Weā€™ve now gone from ā€œhe did this terrible thing at 17ā€ to ā€œheā€™s a man who treated a woman like that.ā€

Man, I hope all the people who are making this case had spotless lives at 17, because I sure as hell didnā€™t.

17 17 17ā€¦ā€¦.

Do you think the when in this scenario makes it less legitimate?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:38:15pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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Except not every man has been accused of this. No one accused Merrick Garland of doing shit like this when Obama nominated him. The ā€œworstā€ the Republicans had on Garland was that Obama nominated him. This is fucking disgraceful.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:40:43pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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Wonder if he called Al Franken about this situation?

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lawhawk  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:41:20pm

re: #99 dangerman

17 17 17ā€¦ā€¦.

Do you think the when in this scenario makes it less legitimate?

What about a guy who engaged in sex assaults on something like 17 women.

Trump did that. Trump is a self admitted sex predator who has 18 women who came forward with credible allegations.

The GOP rubber stamped his ass into the WH. They donā€™t care. They enabled Trump. They back his corrupt admin. Party over nation as always.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:41:27pm

re: #84 Unshaken Defiance

Slut shaming is one of the most despicable (non violent) acts against a woman of them all. Itā€™s an attack on the soul.

Christine Grimaldi
@chgrimaldi
You know what would be really great? If 65 women who knew Brett Kavanaughā€™s accuser in high school signed a letter defending HER character, not his. I want to see women stepping up for survivors instead of alleged perpetrators

.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:41:46pm

No one came out and accused Barack Obama of sexual assault.
No one accused John McCain or Mitt Romney for that mater.
Itā€™s not every man for fuck sake. This is someone who TALKED about this six years when Kavanaugh was just another federal judge. But you know what, this is the WH who hired a wife beater and then lied about it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:42:26pm

re: #103 dangerman

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66. Just to add a little cherry.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:43:18pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

35 you mathematically illiterate and she brought it up to her husband. But yeah what a bitch. The only bitches here are Brett Kavanaugh and his pal Judge who donā€™t know how to treat women. Men like that deserved their asses kicked.

One last time..to him, not you

The when changes the truth of the claim how?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:43:26pm

I was a senior in high school at 17. Physically I was very close the man I am now. I definitely knew right from wrong. The people who defend this shit of course are the same people who support the death penalty for juveniles for younger than Kavanaugh was.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:43:51pm

re: #106 dangerman

One last time..to him, not you

The when changes the truth of the claim how?

Exactly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:44:05pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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ā€œEvery man should be worried.ā€

The implication being all of us have, at one time or another, assaulted, sexually harassed or raped a woman because thatā€™s just what men do.

*spit*

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:44:34pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Thatā€™s enough for them to label someone a ā€œFar left activistā€

There is no other kind
Anything less wouldnā€™t be dangerous scary and deadly
They need it to sound threatening

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:44:51pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

ā€œEvery man should be worried.ā€

The implication being all of us have, at one time or another, assaulted, sexually harassed or raped a woman because thatā€™s just what men do.

*spit*

Which Iā€™ve always felt to be more sexist than anything a feminist believes.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:44:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:45:40pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

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Man I wouldnā€™t even know that was him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:46:57pm

re: #103 dangerman

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65 is a peculiar number. Iā€™ll bet they were going for 100, but couldnā€™t get to it. Possibly some of the women they contacted told them: ā€œFuck off, Brett Kavanaughā€™s a PoS!ā€, and maybe weā€™ll hear from some of them nowā€¦.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:46:57pm
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:47:06pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Itā€™s amazing how these people think. I was with a buddy and some friends of his at a BBQ awhile back and we got to talking about about relationships and one his friends told a rather fucked up story, then he laughed and said ā€œbut really, sometimes a woman just needs a good slap or two to understand her place.ā€

This was followed by very awkward silence. I left about 20 minutes later.

I do not hang out with men
I have no men ā€œfriendsā€

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:47:44pm

Iā€™ve never been accused of sexual assault and most men wonā€™t either. More women however will be victims of sexual assault.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:49:09pm

re: #116 dangerman

I do not hang out with men
I have no men ā€œfriendsā€

Same here.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:49:39pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

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A lawyer close to the White House said the nomination will not be withdrawn. ā€œNo way, not even a hint of it. If anything, itā€™s the opposite. ***If somebody can be brought down by accusations**** like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried

Replace that with ā€ if somebody can be shot down in his own homeā€¦ā€

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Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:50:17pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

ā€œEvery man should be worried.ā€

The implication being all of us have, at one time or another, assaulted, sexually harassed or raped a woman because thatā€™s just what men do.

*spit*

The implication is that women lie and can lie about any man.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:50:23pm

re: #116 dangerman

I do not hang out with men
I have no men ā€œfriendsā€

I have a small circle of very close guy friends, most of whom I have known and trusted for well over 10 years now. This was a party one of them took me too one time. I hardly knew anyone there. The guy who took invited later apologized because he had no idea the host kept such company.

There are very few men I will talk relationships with and those I will have earned the privilege because I know from track record that they are not dicks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:51:02pm

re: #120 Teddyā€™s Person

The implication is that women lie and can lie about any man.

Except Ms. Ford is not lying.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:51:04pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Except not every man has been accused of this. No one accused Merrick Garland of doing shit like this when Obama nominated him. The ā€œworstā€ the Republicans had on Garland was that Obama nominated him. This is fucking disgraceful.

Kavanaugh:
Liar
Gambler
Alcoholic
Abuser

Garland:
Nominated

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:51:23pm
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:53:15pm

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

ā€œEvery man should be worried.ā€

The implication being all of us have, at one time or another, assaulted, sexually harassed or raped a woman because thatā€™s just what men do.

*spit*

Maybe just everyone they know does

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Teddy's Person  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:54:02pm

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

Except Ms. Ford is not lying.

Agreed. I was commenting on the ā€œevery man should be worriedā€ bullshit. People using this argument arenā€™t saying all men do it, but that women can lie about any man and thatā€™s why men should be worried.

edit: Itā€™s a way to call into question any victim of sexual crimes who steps forward.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:57:29pm
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:58:22pm

re: #121 Eclectic Cyborg

I have a small circle of very close guy friends, most of whom I have known and trusted for well over 10 years now. This was a party one of them took me too one time. I hardly knew anyone there. The guy who took invited later apologized because he had no idea the host kept such company.

There are very few men I will talk relationships with and those I will have earned the privilege because I know from track record that they are not dicks.

I assumed something sort of like that
And I wasnā€™t judging
Just stating my druthers

I used to hang around a biker ā€œgangā€
There was talk about membership
I said only if I could join the ladies auxiliary
They said no

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 12:59:28pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Hell I think if anything, theyā€™ll rush the nomination.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:01:17pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

Hell I think if anything, theyā€™ll rush the nomination.

Yep. Kavanagh will get confirmed.

The rest of us will get fucked.

And Trump and the rest of GOP will laugh in our faces.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:02:30pm
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:03:00pm

re: #127 Charles Johnson

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Yes, the committee absolutely should postpone the vote at the very least.

But Iā€™ll bet they donā€™t because sexual assault isnā€™t a deal-breaker for the GOP

I was going to go with alleged sexual assault
And that they werenā€™t interested infinding outnif it was verifiable/true

Then I realized that you are right.

They donā€™t care that itā€™s true

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:05:04pm

Is there any wonder where the incel, proud boy and other menā€™s right movement types come from?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:05:35pm

re: #131 Kragar

Itā€™s only looting if black people are the ones doing it.

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Kragar  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:08:06pm
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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:08:49pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

Itā€™s only looting if black people are the ones doing it.

Looting is code
Like thug

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:10:58pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

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Heā€™s cut and he is bleeding. Nothing major, yet.

The cut doctors are busy though.

Maybe we get a sneaky jab in and it rocks him enough to get his defenses down.

Buying time. The longer the Democrats can cause havoc and delay, the better.

More will come out, or the Republican Senate will have to create more thin and obvious cover stories.

Keep doing the ropeā€™aā€™dope Dems.

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austin_blue  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:12:32pm

re: #136 dangerman

Looting is code
Like thug

AFPā€™s pictures after Katrina of white ā€œscavengersā€ and black ā€œlootersā€, both carrying food in inflatables, are called to mind. At least AFP apologized. Faux never will.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:13:44pm

re: #135 Kragar

It is a pity that the women he took advantage of cannot return the ā€œfavor.ā€

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:14:39pm
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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:15:01pm

Nothing that we know of. Yet.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:15:44pm

re: #140 jaunte

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True, true.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:20:15pm

re: #36 lawhawk

A lot of us did stupid stuff at 17. Some of us did stupid stuff at 25.

Most of us didnā€™t engage in sex assaults.

Sex assaults are among the most vile crimes and we continue to victimize the victims when they do come forward.

Kavanaugh didnā€™t do just do stupid stuff.

Heā€™s alleged to have engaged in sex assault. Thatā€™s a felony. And at age 17, that means getting treated as an adult in most jurisdictions.

If youā€™re black, youā€™d be damned sure that theyā€™d treat you as an adult with the same allegations. So yeah, this matters.

This matters a lot.

And worse, for a lot lot less, as the ghost of Emmitt Till would attest.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:21:15pm
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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:22:59pm

re: #140 jaunte

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Maybe because Flake and Corker donā€™t want to jeopardize their future ride on the Wingnut Welfare gravy train?
Nothing to lose in terms of their (self-truncated) political careers as of now, but maybe they donā€™t want to spend their ā€œretirementsā€ in Republican Pariahstan?

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:23:55pm
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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:24:30pm

re: #145 Jay C

Maybe because Flake and Corker donā€™t want to jeopardize their future ride on the Wingnut Welfare gravy train?
Nothing to lose in terms of their (self-truncated) political careers as of now, but maybe they donā€™t want to spend their ā€œretirementsā€ in Republican Pariahstan?

Corker is worth around $18 million, he scoffs at that gravy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:25:21pm

re: #145 Jay C

Maybe because Flake and Corker donā€™t want to jeopardize their future ride on the Wingnut Welfare gravy train?
Nothing to lose in terms of their (self-truncated) political careers as of now, but maybe they donā€™t want to spend their ā€œretirementsā€ in Republican Pariahstan?

How much would they be on that gravy train though? Wingnuts probably hate both of them since they think both are insufficiently loyal to Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:27:05pm

Blah sportsball. Trumpā€™s right the sport is dying but not because of athletic activism because every other play gets called back because of a penalty. That kid in KC has a bright future though.

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:27:48pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

How much would they be on that gravy train though? Wingnuts probably hate both of them since they think both are insufficiently loyal to Trump.

Theyā€™d join the MSNBC or CNN republican dinosaur pundits

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:28:21pm

re: #147 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Corker is worth around $18 million, he scoffs at that gravy.

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Didnā€™t know that about Corker: though I should have guessed: Senators (as a group) tend to be pretty affluent.
So just basic hypocritical hack Republicans, thenā€¦.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:30:21pm

re: #150 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Theyā€™d join the MSNBC or CNN republican dinosaur pundits

Ahhhh yeah youā€™re right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:30:42pm

I did not know that Nunes could declassify stuff.

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jaunte  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:30:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:31:17pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I did not know that Nunes could declassify stuff.

Says one untransparent motherfucker.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:31:57pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

He just gave himself that power. /half

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:32:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:32:27pm

re: #154 jaunte

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They donā€™t hate what Trump stands for. They worry that heā€™s discrediting their ideology rather than thinking ā€œYou know maybe our ideology has some holes in it if a case like Donald Trump can be nominated and elected President on it.ā€ But that would require you know admitting that their brand of conservatism isnā€™t as pure as they think it is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:32:58pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why is Willie Nelson so vulgar? // So will say the people woh love Mr. Grab Em by the Pussy.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:33:16pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Willie being his independent self. :)

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:34:59pm

re: #136 dangerman

Looting is code
Like thug

Basically meaning ā€œitā€™s open season - good hunting, patriots!ā€

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:35:04pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I did not know that Nunes could declassify stuff.

He has that power over things that go through the committee he leads.

But, this is Nunes. Heā€™s probably not read any of it. Itā€™ll blow up in his face big time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:35:44pm

Even during my brief moderate phase in 06-early 08, I observed that there was a huge self-righteousness and self-assuredness that their ideology was pure as snow by conservatives. A conservative screws up? Oh thatā€™s because he was actually a liberal all along. Or the blaming of Tip Oā€™Neill for the economic problems that resulted from Reaganism. But most of all, itā€™s smugness that only they understand the Constitution and that itā€™s wrong to liken conservatives to Nazis but itā€™s perfectly okay to do the same to liberals for both Nazis and the Soviets.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:36:39pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I did not know that Nunes could declassify stuff.

And whatā€™s the over/under that Nunesā€™ ā€œdeclassifiedā€ ā€œinterviewsā€ will just coincidentally precisely echo the WH line about the whole Russia probe being a ā€œpartisan witch huntā€?

Iā€™ll leave it to the satire-minded to imagine the sort of ā€œtestimonyā€ this hack asshole is likely to produceā€¦

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:38:50pm

Florence death toll now up to 15.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:39:27pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

That is bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:42:44pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

Florence death toll now up to 15.

Itā€™s going to get worse Iā€™m afraid.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:46:17pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Itā€™s going to get worse Iā€™m afraid.

The living might loot a Dollar General, so this is ok. //////

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:48:18pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

Itā€™s going to get worse Iā€™m afraid.

Weather Channel now says 16 dead ( truck crash earlier this morning )

Also major flooding expected on many NC rivers: 20+ feet in most places. And an amazing ā€œ58 feetā€ at Fayetteville (Cape Fear River)ā€¦!!

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:48:18pm

re: #164 Jay C

And whatā€™s the over/under that Nunesā€™ ā€œdeclassifiedā€ ā€œinterviewsā€ will just coincidentally precisely echo the WH line about the whole Russia probe being a ā€œpartisan witch huntā€?

Iā€™ll leave it to the satire-minded to imagine the sort of ā€œtestimonyā€ this hack asshole is likely to produceā€¦

I think he is in a race against James Oā€™Keefe.

What is odd, all of Nunesā€™ committee has tried so far has blown up in their faces. Wouldnā€™t these great recorded interviews have led to what they have already tried and failed on? They would have used this already.

This smells like raw meat left out in the Californian heat for too long.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:53:00pm

re: #144 jaunte

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I will say, the bizarre framing of Kavanaugh as everyoneā€™s favorite soccer dad now seems intentionally prophylactic.

And having a team of young private school girls at his hearing now seems extra creepy.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:53:44pm

Here is the latest from the Washington Post. Please note that the Washington Post has opened up the articles related to Hurricane Florence.
washingtonpost.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:53:54pm

re: #171 Barefoot Grin

I will say, the bizarre framing of Kavanaugh as everyoneā€™s favorite soccer dad now seems intentionally prophylactic.

And having a team of young private school girls at his hearing now seems extra creepy.

I definitely did feel they went overboard to portray him as this boy scout type. Weā€™ve seen alot of layers of KAvanaughā€™s onion come off.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:56:58pm

re: #170 ObserverArt

I think he is a race against James Oā€™Keefe.

What is odd, all of Nunesā€™ committee has tried so far has blown up in their faces. Wouldnā€™t these great recorded interviews have led to what they have already tried and failed on? They would have used this already.

This smells like raw meat left out in the Californian heat for too long.

Raw fish, more like: this crap smells fishy from the get-go. My guess is that Nunes is going to selectively release almost-certainly cherry-picked/edited/decontextualized ā€œinterviewsā€ with biased/partisan sources, then claim the whole mess ā€œexoneratesā€ Trump from any wrongdoing whatsoever. And then count on RW media to run with his ā€œrevelationsā€ and whip up the rubes into a self-righteous frenzy before any more-thorough analysis proves his ā€œexculpatory factsā€ as the reeking bogus bullshit they most likely are.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:57:10pm

re: #98 Charles Johnson

ā€œevery man certainly should be worried.ā€

As a 47 year male that has lived in 6 different states and traveled to 30+ states, I sleep very well at night never worrying about my past. Only a fucking monster would ever let a thing cross their mind.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:58:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 1:59:45pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Good I hope he finds a pursuit that doesnā€™t involve people and he slithers away.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:00:02pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Closed down for now. He will try something else somewhere else.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:02:01pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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ā€œOn to other pursuitsā€

Hopefully because someone is pursuing himā€¦.?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:02:38pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Even as we knew that Ben Shapiro was pushing agitprop and misinformation all while lying to the public, it turns out that his role in Trumpworld and Manafortā€™s actions was never fully identifiedā€¦. until now:

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The Israeli official involved in all this is far right Defense Minister Avigor Lieberman. The Trumpworld criminal syndicate is aligned with the far right elsewhere in the world, from Russia and Ukraine to Israel.

Lieberman deserves no credibility either ā€” he is Russian and a Putin toady.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:03:26pm

Are we being visited by a Russia Troll?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:04:12pm

re: #183 Dr. Matt

I think Charles just booted him. :)

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:04:13pm

re: #179 Bacon Dick

Holding your powder dry for six years and this is the best you could do?

This?

You suck.

*flush*

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:04:40pm

re: #182 Hecubaā€™s daughter

Lieberman deserves no credibility either ā€” he is Russian and a Putin toady.

Itā€™s pretty disturbing that an allied foreign government was helping Ben Shapiro with talking points against the government of another ally. Iā€™ll say it again. I really feel that Bibiā€™s government has done immense harm to US-Israeli relations and I blame Bibi for it because he had it out for Obama from the start. Whether it was racial, partisan, just plain dislike, the way he treated Obama was disgusting and I hope he goes down in history as an asshole.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:04:52pm

I donā€™t know if any of you watched the series 6teen, a series on Cartoon Network. Well, itā€™s a few years later, now their 18. The creators have a voter ad to appeal to millenials:

Vote, Dude! (PSA) | 6Teen Reunion 2018

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Dr. Matt  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:05:05pm

Hey Bacon Dick,

*Smooch*,
Matt

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:05:09pm

re: #183 Dr. Matt

Are we being visited by a Russia Troll?

A troll who ironically enough registered his account here the year that Dr. Ford told her counselor aout Kavanaugh.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:06:26pm

re: #183 Dr. Matt

Are we being visited by a Russia Troll?

Awww.. no fun! We donā€™t get to pillory the trollā€¦.
Before he got the hook, I noticed ā€œBacon Dickā€ has had been registered for almost six years: but with 0 karma and just 2 comments. (Today)
Oh well, back under the bridge, assholeā€¦..

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:07:36pm

I didnā€™t even get to see the comment.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:07:43pm

It was such a fine rebuke of the allegations against Kavanaugh though. //

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:08:22pm

re: #191 Belafon

I didnā€™t even get to see the comment.

Just a lame personal attack on Charles by someone who remembered they had a LGF account that they never used until now when Charles dared to call out Kavanaugh.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:11:53pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

It was such a fine rebuke of the allegations against Kavanaugh though. //

You donā€™t do sarcasm often, but when you do, it is drop-the-tags-worthy.

Better safe than sorry, I guess. You never know who might be reading.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:12:45pm

re: #194 wrenchwench

You donā€™t do sarcasm often, but when you do, it is drop-the-tags-worthy.

Better safe than sorry, I guess. You never know who might be reading.

Oh I use the tags to denote tone.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:12:53pm

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:13:54pm

re: #146 jaunte

Senators can vote against any nominee they choose, for any reason or no reason. No one has to prove beyond reasonable doubt Kavanaugh is guilty, otherwise he must be confirmed. This is not a trial and they are not his jury.

the more that is ā€˜provenā€™ the more it demonstrates unequivocally who the republicans really are

shove this down their throats and make them own it

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:14:47pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Oh I use the tags to denote tone.

Sometimes the tone comes through before the tags are seen. Then they seem redundant. Not complaining, keep it up!

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:14:55pm

re: #185 TedStriker
Oops wait I misreadā€¦ Mah bad

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:15:32pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

Sometimes the tone comes through before the tags are seen. Then they seem redundant. Not complaining, keep it up!

Ah true enough.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:16:42pm

re: #196 Charles Johnson

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:19:49pm

Never saw the expunged troll. I remember the bad old days, when we had a chance to feast on gamey buttocks before the ragged remains were tossed overboard. No more, though, too many buttock-heads out there to allow for leisurely feasting.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:20:46pm

HURR HURR SHEā€™S RUINING #METOO!!!!11! TEH ONLY WOMENS WHO EVER IN HISTORY DIDNTS LIE IS JUANITA BROADERICK!!!11!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:23:44pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR SHEā€™S RUINING #METOO!!!!11! TEH ONLY WOMENS WHO EVER IN HISTORY DIDNTS LIE IS JUANITA BROADERICK!!!11!!!

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What the fuck is that shit? She told her husband in 2012 when Kavanaugh while a public official was not in the public spotlight. But yeah sheā€™s doing real damage to women unlike the conservative women who refuse to even consider that her story may be true because Brett Kavanaughā€™s a perfect little conservative angel.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:26:41pm

re: #199 Unshaken Defiance

May I suggest you flush the quote?

On purpose, thereā€™s no quote there, just a replyā€¦since they got completely nuked, no one can see anything about them except their miserable, execrable name.

Cā€™est la vie.

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:27:15pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:28:23pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

This is her pinned tweet:

And this is a retweet:

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MsJ  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:29:13pm

re: #203 The Vicious Babushka

HURR HURR SHEā€™S RUINING #METOO!!!!11! TEH ONLY WOMENS WHO EVER IN HISTORY DIDNTS LIE IS JUANITA BROADERICK!!!11!!!

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S/heā€™s proudly on Gab. Nothing else needs to be said.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:29:25pm

Thomas Wictor also believes Roy Moore was ā€œset up.ā€

In other words, heā€™s a fucking assbasket.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:29:27pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:29:53pm

Chuckā€™s GotNews Facebook page is still up if anyone wants to save anything from it.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:30:03pm

re: #208 MsJ

S/heā€™s proudly on Gab. Nothing else needs to be said.

Yep, decided she could join my block club.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:30:12pm
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[deleted]  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:30:32pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:30:38pm

re: #213 mastertabes

I see theyā€™re coming out of the woodwork, Charles.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:31:04pm

re: #206 MsJ

Problem is, Logan Paulā€™s not kin (unless distant) to Rand or Ron.

Heā€™s still a fucking Internet douchebag though.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:31:44pm

Idiot.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:33:06pm

It looks like it going to be a far more interesting evening here on line. Hmm re-runs of Downton Abbey and Poldark vs LGF. A very difficult call.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:33:39pm

re: #206 MsJ

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:36:06pm

re: #206 MsJ

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Heā€™s not related to that Paul clan. Kid is an ass tho.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:36:57pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Neither do we Ice-T. Heā€™s famous for being famous for being famous I think?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:36:58pm

re: #216 Belafon

I see theyā€™re coming out of the woodwork, Charles.

Is it possible that they are the same person registered under multiple accounts?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:42:38pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

And of course that Trumpist came right back with something even stupider. Blocked.

Allā€™s Iā€™m seeing is CLINTON!!!!!!!!! I pose the question. Regardless of Clinton, where will you be if itā€™s true? Crickets, thenā€¦ā€¦ CLINTON!!!!!!!!!!

So predictable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:45:57pm

For DoRango fans, here they are in the yard today. Sheā€™s a lot bigger than his head now, at 16 weeks. Still itty bitty, though.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:47:25pm

re: #225 Blind Frog Belly White

Thanks. I needed a break from all of these trolls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:47:59pm

re: #218 Charles Johnson

Idiot.

not even trying, are they?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:49:50pm

So, what - sleeper accounts? Philip and/or Elizabeth Jennings using accounts that the Center set up years ago, using names of people who died in childhood?
/////////////////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:50:07pm

re: #226 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I needed a break from all of these trolls.

De nada!

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:51:25pm

Two weeks ago I was mowing my lawn, and after I was done I noticed that I had a shitload of bites on my left ankle. Looked like chiggers, so I resigned myself to a couple of weeks of varying degrees of itchiness before they healed.

Most of them did, except for one - which turned an angry red today. A trip to urgent care determined that it had developed into cellulitis (Iā€™ll spare you a photo). Just got back from the drug store with some kind of super duper ointment that will supposedly clear it all up.

Non-stop action and adventure up in this jointā€¦

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:53:38pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Iā€™m sure itā€™s unintentionalā€¦ but in the context of the movie, that song is what the von Trapps used as their cover to sneak away from the Nazis.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:53:55pm

re: #230 makeitstop

take that cellulitis seriously!
MrBWS had it on his face and ended up being sent to the ER for massive IV antibiotics. Took a couple of weeks to heal and it looks worse before it gets better.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:56:35pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

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Is Rage shutting all his stuff down because he is afraid something is coming that would cause people to look up his past?

Almost seems like a record scrub prior to an investigation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:59:14pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

take that cellulitis seriously!
MrBWS had it on his face and ended up being sent to the ER for massive IV antibiotics. Took a couple of weeks to heal and it looks worse before it gets better.

I had it twice in my right shin. A year apart. No wound, so not sure where it got in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 2:59:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:00:21pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

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Pretty rich given Kavanaughā€™s origin as a staffer for Starr in the Clinton years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:00:24pm

re: #234 Blind Frog Belly White

I had it twice in my right shin. A year apart. No wound, so not sure where it got in.

apparently it doesnā€™t take any really noticeable break in the skin.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:01:19pm

I got an email from Janet Mills, whoā€™s running for governor of Maine. Would someone explain, after 8 years of LePage, why this is even a thing:

Our race for Governor here in Maine is extremely tight ā€” with polls showing us in a dead heat with Republican Shawn Moody and the Cook Political Report calling this a true Toss-Up. That means we need all hands on deck if weā€™re going to win over undecided voters and take the lead.

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jeffreyw  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:01:59pm

Thank god Darth got out!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:02:19pm

re: #238 Belafon

I got an email from Janet Mills, whoā€™s running for governor of Maine. Would someone explain, after 8 years of LePage, why this is even a thing:

I would think that thereā€™s a third party candidate running like last time that benefited LePage but I donā€™t know. Maineā€™s a weird place.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:02:45pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

apparently it doesnā€™t take any really noticeable break in the skin.

True. Although the Russian Physicians Assistant did observe that ā€œYou hev fooot fahngoos.ā€ (athleteā€™s foot)

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:03:28pm

re: #239 jeffreyw

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Thank god Darth got out!

ā€œI DID NOT ASK FOR A BATH!ā€

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:03:53pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

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Boy, the anonymous ā€œlawyer close to the White Houseā€ doesnā€™t sound like Rudy at all.

//

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:05:26pm

Iā€™m seeing a small but definite trend away from Trump and the GOP among the .1%ers. Most, of course, are still on board. The grifter class, narrow portfolio types like oil and oil industry service, chain retail and food service, developers, health care profiteers, etc. are delirious with joy at the tax cuts, the end of mandated health care, and the green light for environmental pillaging. However, the real movers and shakers, the billionaires and the super-brains who enable them, are not so sure at all. They are perfectly well aware that massive deficits and runaway inflation are in the offing, combined with a collapse in capital investment. The result will be disaster, as surely as night follows day. The grifters are basically fast money types, they want to get while the getting is good, with no thought to the likely future, when even a massively fat portfolio may not be protection enough from the inevitable upheaval.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:08:59pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Found some more information:

There are four people running:

In the governorā€™s race, 38.8 percent said that if the election were held on the day of the poll, they would vote for or wear leaning toward Mills, while 39 percent said they would vote for or were leaning toward Moody. Four percent said they favored independent candidate Terry Hayes; 2.6 percent said they favored independent candidate Alan Caron, and the remaining 15.6 percent said they remain undecided.

ā€¦

While 41 percent said they held the president in a favorable light, only 37 percent said they had a favorable view of LePage. Of the candidates in the governorā€™s race, Moody had the highest favorability rating at 46 percent and Mills was viewed favorably by 44 percent.

ā€¦

Despite LePageā€™s lower favorability rating, the poll indicates that a majority of voters, 51 percent, see the state heading in the right direction. But only 31 percent said their standard of living was better now than it was four years ago.

The survey also found that 47 percent of voters approve of Maineā€™s first-in-the-nation ranked choice voting system while 42.6 percent disapprove of the system.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:10:07pm

re: #245 Belafon

Found some more information:

There are four people running:

Thanks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:11:42pm

ā€œIf somebody can be brought down by accusations like this, then you, me, every man certainly should be worried.ā€

Hmmmm. Well, having never held any high school girls down while drunkenly fumbling at their clothes and muffling their screams with my hand, Iā€™m thinkingā€¦no.

But hey, a woman could make a false accusation against a prominent GOPā€™er and get away with it, except for possibly ruining her career, getting slagged off in all the RW press, stalking, and death threats.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:11:57pm

Dems are lining up to call for a halt in Kavanaughā€™s nomination. Lindsey Graham has extended an invitation for the woman to give information to the committee.

And then thereā€™s thisā€¦

I expected no less, TBH.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:14:08pm

re: #248 makeitstop

Dems are lining up to call for a halt in Kavanaughā€™s nomination. Lindsey Graham has extended an invitation for the woman to give information to the committee.

And then thereā€™s thisā€¦

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I expected no less, TBH.

Of course heā€™s going to go after Professor Ford. I hope sheā€™s ready for that but I also hope that is the final thing that brings down Kavanaugh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:14:31pm

re: #248 makeitstop

Three people close to the White House said they expect Trump to go after Kavanaughā€™s accuser rather than to turn on the judge.

Three people close to the White House, and most of the country. Trumpkins are looking forward to it.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:16:06pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Iā€™m seeing a small but definite trend away from Trump and the GOP among the .1%ers. Most, of course, are still on board. The grifter class, narrow portfolio types like oil and oil industry service, chain retail and food service, developers, health care profiteers, etc. are delirious with joy at the tax cuts, the end of mandated health care, and the green light for environmental pillaging. However, the real movers and shakers, the billionaires and the super-brains who enable them, are not so sure at all. They are perfectly well aware that massive deficits and runaway inflation are in the offing, combined with a collapse in capital investment. The result will be disaster, as surely as night follows day. The grifters are basically fast money types, they want to get while the getting is good, with no thought to the likely future, when even a massively fat portfolio may not be protection enough from the inevitable upheaval.

Thanks for providing some distinguishing characteristics. I tend to view the whole .1%er group as ā€˜theyā€™re all thisā€™ or ā€˜theyā€™re all thatā€™.

/no sarc, ā€˜cause Iā€™ve never met any. That I know of. Thanks for real.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:19:09pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:19:27pm

re: #248 makeitstop

Dems are lining up to call for a halt in Kavanaughā€™s nomination. Lindsey Graham has extended an invitation for the woman to give information to the committee.

And then thereā€™s thisā€¦

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I expected no less, TBH.

Trump would have to deal with his own past if he acknowledged Kavanaugh was unfit.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:22:08pm

Time for Collins and Murkowski to step the fuck up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:25:41pm

Here is another assbasket who believes EVER WIMMENS WHO SAYS THEY WAS A SALTED IS LYING EXSEPT FOR WANNITA BRODDRICK!!!!!!11!!

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:27:31pm

re: #253 Belafon

Trump would have to deal with his own past if he acknowledged Kavanaugh was unfit.

Why? Trump would just blow off any shade on his own past as ā€œFake Newsā€ from the ā€œlosers and hatersā€, (with reminders about his ā€œhistoricā€ Electoral College victory) - and should (Dog willing) Kavanaugh be rejected, go on Twitter doubling down on the rhetoric blaming everybody (anybody) else for the lossā€¦.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:28:56pm

The Trump Orcs are already swarming. Trump knows nothing except double down.

I canā€™t wait until November.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:30:23pm

re: #257 BigPapa

The Trump Orcs are already swarming. Trump knows nothing except double down.

I canā€™t wait until November.

Early voting starts October 9.

ā€”I think.

ā€”Here, at least.

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dangerman  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:35:15pm

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

Here is another assbasket who believes EVER WIMMENS WHO SAYS THEY WAS A SALTED IS LYING EXSEPT FOR WANNITA BRODDRICK!!!!!!11!!

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+1 for assbasket

and vehementlyā€¦well that settles it

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:35:37pm

re: #24 jaunte

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:37:07pm

re: #251 wrenchwench

Thanks for providing some distinguishing characteristics. I tend to view the whole .1%er group as ā€˜theyā€™re all thisā€™ or ā€˜theyā€™re all thatā€™.

/no sarc, ā€˜cause Iā€™ve never met any. That I know of. Thanks for real.

The .1%er group has enough long-term thinking that while they of course like living in mansions and throwing Gatsby-esque parties and wearing expensive things and taking luxury vacationsā€¦ they donā€™t want to have to live in fortresses with armies, they donā€™t want to have to worry about kidnap every time they go skiing or surfing or into the city, they donā€™t want to have to worry about torches and pitchforks.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:40:53pm
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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:43:23pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

Maybe pick a better character witness next time Brett. I think thereā€™s definitely something to this allegation. Sheā€™s made her name known, the couples therapy bit in 2012, and telling her husband what had happened to her.

More than ā€œsomething to this allegationā€. I believe every word she has said. Kavanaugh has lied.

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Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:46:43pm

Now I know that the Earth has passed into a black holeā€™s event horizon!

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stpaulbear  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:48:55pm

re: #264 Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹

Now I know that the Earth has passed into a black holeā€™s event horizon!

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Somebody (maybe a kid) is going to see that and think they can drink it. Horribly stupid.

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BigPapa  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:49:06pm

Amazing how many men are accused of all kinds of varying forms of harassment. Itā€™s like a slow damn break and itā€™s just getting rolling as women are feeling more empowered to speak up. Besides Al Franken, not one of them has said ā€˜I did it, it was wrong, not only will it not happen again but Iā€™m going to work for equality and changing our culture. I will be an advocate for womenā€™s rights forever more.ā€™

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:50:01pm

I hate peeling garlic, but, damn, itā€™s so worth it.

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Joe Bacon šŸŒ¹  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:50:06pm

re: #265 stpaulbear

Somebody (maybe a kid) is going to see that and think they can drink it. Horribly stupid.

OR Republican officeholdersā€¦

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:59:44pm

moron

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 16, 2018 • 3:59:49pm

re: #265 stpaulbear

No kid is going to drink it because it doesnā€™t exist.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:00:18pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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What new found wealth idiot?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:02:09pm

re: #260 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Anyone know what Tom was saying about Trayvon Martin?

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:02:10pm

re: #271 HappyWarrior

What new found wealth idiot?

Heā€™s tweeting to his oligarch supporters. And the one who think they are oligarchs, and the ones who think he will make them an oligarch.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:03:50pm

re: #263 fern01

More than ā€œsomething to this allegationā€. I believe every word she has said. Kavanaugh has lied.

Definitely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:05:20pm

re: #273 wrenchwench

Heā€™s tweeting to his oligarch supporters. And the one who think they are oligarchs, and the ones who think he will make them an oligarch.

IOW, the Babbitts

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:11:03pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:12:10pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

IOW, the Babbitts

Geez, I read the book and I still had to look it up. At least in my retirement, Iā€™ll have something to do. Read all those books again. (And watch some movies.)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:12:19pm

re: #267 Shropshire Slasher

I hate peeling garlic, but, damn, itā€™s so worth it.

Just lightly bash it with a mallet or something. Then the skin will come right off.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:15:13pm

re: #267 Shropshire Slasher

re: #278 GlutenFreeJesus

Here is a handy little tool that works.
amazon.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:15:23pm
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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:15:40pm

re: #278 GlutenFreeJesus

Just lightly bash it with a mallet or something. Then the skin will come right off.

After reading your answer, I realized that I misread Korelā€™s post as ā€˜peeing garlic.ā€™

But that might also be worth it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:15:42pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Amory Blaine  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:18:20pm

Plus, WTF is up with the price of bleach? A gallon of Clorox is over 4 fucking dollars.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:19:14pm

re: #282 The Vicious Babushka

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They were also responsible for the Great Recession nearly 90 years later. Donā€™t trust Republicans with the economy.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:20:18pm

re: #284 HappyWarrior

They were also responsible for the Great Recession nearly 90 years later. Donā€™t trust Republicans with the economy.

And a medium-sized recession in the late 80ā€™s, after the S&L collapse.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:23:16pm

re: #24 jaunte

Some good comments on the Tom Nichols thread about lying vs taking responsibility for your actions. GOP vs dems (Franken) for all to see

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:24:49pm

re: #286 fern01

Some good comments on the Tom Nichols thread about lying vs taking responsibility for your actions. GOP vs dems (Franken) for all to see

Nichols comments really pissed me off because Kavanaugh has never been held accountable for what happened. Indeed, he was living the good life while his victim clearly suffered because of what happened.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:30:30pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Except given that we live in a world where retirees are less likely to have traditional pensions, he may be effective at frightening those of us whose retirement consists of Social Security plus IRAs and 401(k)s, which tend to be invested in stocks, given the less than stellar returns on safe bonds these days. The older you get, the more concerned you are about maintaining a healthy stock market since you are not likely to be engaged in profitable employment to tied you over the 10+ years it can take for a market to recover.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:31:06pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:31:34pm

I got into a ā€œdiscussionā€ with someone on facebook who doesnā€™t believe that the OK symbol has been co-opted by white supremacists. She even ended her first reply to me with snowflakes.

I did, while looking some stuff up, find out that whites do have a word that was first used as a slur that we have claimed as our own:

The weird thing is, I really donā€™t want to use it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:32:12pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uhhh. WHAT newfound wealth? Wages have been stagnated for decades.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:33:44pm

Report this Tweet:
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:33:49pm

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:34:22pm

re: #292 The Vicious Babushka

Report this Tweet:
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These fucking assholes. Thanks VB.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:38:46pm

Yeah, I know, itā€™s Flake.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:39:28pm

re: #295 makeitstop

Yeah, I know, itā€™s Flake.

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That just means AZ needs to keep the pressure up.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:39:46pm

re: #295 makeitstop

Yeah, I know, itā€™s Flake.

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Itā€™s a start.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:42:13pm

Heh. Stupid Red Hats.

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:42:48pm

re: #295 makeitstop

Yeah, I know, itā€™s Flake.

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Itā€™s bigger than thatā€¦.

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:43:30pm

re: #299 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Itā€™s bigger than thatā€¦.

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He is on the Judiciary Committee.

Impass.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:43:42pm

re: #298 makeitstop

Heh. Stupid Red Hats.

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These of course are the same people who thought Obama addressing kids on the first day of school was cause for freaking out but the President being able to text you is just fine and dandy.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:44:44pm

re: #131 Kragar

When my town was in the process of flooding, the local shop opened its doors for people to take whatever - before it all went under. Most in demand - stuff for babes (all the fresh food was long gone).

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:45:28pm

re: #301 HappyWarrior

These of course are the same people who thought Obama addressing kids on the first day of school was cause for freaking out but the President being able to text you is just fine and dandy.

They donā€™t think itā€™s find and dandy. They think heā€™s going to unite people to rise up against the unAmerican populace.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:45:37pm

re: #299 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

Itā€™s bigger than thatā€¦.

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I donā€™t know if Iā€™m down with her appearing before the committee. Theyā€™d only trash her to the extent they could, on live TV.

Itā€™s her decision, and I could understand if she just refused to appear.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:45:42pm

For the first time I have hope that Kavanaugh can be stopped. Of course, Trumpā€™s second choice will be just as inclined to support the GOP agenda as Kavanaugh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:47:40pm

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

For the first time I have hope that Kavanaugh can be stopped. Of course, Trumpā€™s second choice will be just as inclined to support the GOP agenda as Kavanaugh.

Barrett possibly or maybe that guy who was the finalist with Gorsuch? Hardiman?

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:48:46pm

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

For the first time I have hope that Kavanaugh can be stopped. Of course, Trumpā€™s second choice will be just as inclined to support the GOP agenda as Kavanaugh.

Yep, but itā€™s less than 60 days before the election. I forget the date in December when the new congress resets, but even thatā€™s sometime mid-December.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:49:13pm

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Barrett possibly or maybe that guy who was the finalist with Gorsuch? Hardiman?

Anybody on the Heritage list; I have no idea which one.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:49:40pm

re: #307 Belafon

Yep, but itā€™s less than 60 days before the election. I forget the date in December when the new congress resets, but even thatā€™s sometime mid-December.

Thatā€™s OK. If we win the midterms, there is precedent for denying the previous lame ducks a vote on any issues. Thanks, Republicans!

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:50:25pm

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

For the first time I have hope that Kavanaugh can be stopped. Of course, Trumpā€™s second choice will be just as inclined to support the GOP agenda as Kavanaugh.

But I donā€™t know if theyā€™d find anyone so committed to shielding the president. This dude seems like a True Believer, and I donā€™t know if theyā€™ll find anyone as passionate about the president being completely above the law.

I wouldnā€™t put anything past them at this point. They could just go for broke and call for a vote tomorrow and it wouldnā€™t surprise me a bit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:51:13pm

re: #308 Big Beautiful Door

Anybody on the Heritage list; I have no idea which one.

Yep.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:51:27pm

re: #307 Belafon

Yep, but itā€™s less than 60 days before the election. I forget the date in December when the new congress resets, but even thatā€™s sometime mid-December.

If Kavanaugh fails and the Democrats win control of the Senate in the mid-terms, McConnell will get it rammed through in the lame duck session. If he doesnā€™t, then that seat will remain vacant unless Trump nominates a centrist.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:52:05pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:52:53pm

re: #310 makeitstop

But I donā€™t know if theyā€™d find anyone so committed to shielding the president. This dude seems like a True Believer, and I donā€™t know if theyā€™ll find anyone as passionate about the president being completely above the law.

I wouldnā€™t put anything past them at this point. They could just go for broke and call for a vote tomorrow and it wouldnā€™t surprise me a bit.

That is the silver lining to stopping Kavanaugh. Roe will still be reversed, but at least SCOTUS may not shield Trump from justice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:52:55pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

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Just like Kavanaugh is the shitty right wing lawyer version of Forrest.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:53:14pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

The bastard does seem to get around a lot, doesnā€™t he?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:54:11pm

re: #316 TedStriker

The bastard does seem to get around a lot, doesnā€™t he?

I have to admit I scoffed at his claims of connections and knowing guys but he does seem to have friends in some high places in the RW food chain.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:56:12pm

THREAD

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:57:03pm

re: #317 HappyWarrior

I have to admit I scoffed at his claims of connections and knowing guys but he does seem to have friends in some high places in the RW food chain.

Me too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:57:35pm

re: #307 Belafon

Yep, but itā€™s less than 60 days before the election. I forget the date in December when the new congress resets, but even thatā€™s sometime mid-December.

The new Congress doesnā€™t get seated until January, leaving plenty of time for the lame duck Congress to get a Justice confirmed.

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:59:17pm
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retired cynic  Sep 16, 2018 • 4:59:43pm

re: #290 Belafon

Huh. My grandfather would use that term. I knew it was derogatory, but didnā€™t know the history!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:00:09pm

re: #321 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

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Props to Frum for not pulling a Nichols here.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:00:42pm

re: #318 The Vicious Babushka

THREAD

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Gah! It makes me sick thinking about that.

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:01:34pm

re: #322 retired cynic

Huh. My grandfather would use that term. I knew it was derogatory, but didnā€™t know the history!

I used to hear it a lot when I was a kid.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:02:19pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:02:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:03:05pm

re: #326 Patricia Kayden

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From the ā€œNo Shit, Sherlockā€ department of journalism.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:03:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:03:26pm

re: #326 Patricia Kayden

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Yep heā€™s probably thinking of a stupid nickname now over some KFC.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:03:51pm
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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:04:11pm

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

If Kavanaugh fails and the Democrats win control of the Senate in the mid-terms, McConnell will get it rammed through in the lame duck session. If he doesnā€™t, then that seat will remain vacant unless Trump nominates a centrist.

I doubt it: if Kavanaughā€™s nomination gets voted down by the full Senate (AFAIK, the only way it can be derailed: itā€™s been, IIRC, reported out positively - 11-10 vote on party lines, of course- by the Judiciary Committee), the chances that any replacement candidate King Orangeanus might be able to conjure up from (or be supplied by) the Federalist Society wishlist of hacks in any time to be of use before the new session of Congress in January are pretty low. Near-zero, IMO. Mitch McConnell is a pretty effective Leader in the Senate, but if he canā€™t hold his (slim) Majority together to push through a Super-Approved Stellar Jurist nominee like Brett Kavanaugh before the elections, itā€™s hard to see how he would (or could) do squat to ā€œram throughā€ another one after: especially if facing Minority status come January 3 (?)ā€¦.

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De Kolta Chair  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:05:25pm

Sunday means Japanese 1960s Garage Beat!

The Spiders (60ā€™s Japanese Garage Punk) - Boom Boom

Besides, its my bā€™day!

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makeitstop  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:06:10pm

An excellent thread from Leah McElrath.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:06:49pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:11:44pm

A single accuser was enough for Trump and every Republican to demand Frankenā€™s resignation, even though she had publicly forgiven him and considered the matter closed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:12:15pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

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That idiot seriously wants to liken this to beating someone up for their lunch money?!?! God, I hope Erickā€™s wife leaves him for another woman after that one. What a fucking pig.There were plenty of women who vouched for Ted Bundy too Erick btw. That didnā€™t change how he treated them. This is why you fail at life every time.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:12:46pm

re: #295 makeitstop

Yeah, I know, itā€™s Flake.

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Good. I mentioned he, Corker and Sasse earlier. It wouldnā€™t surprise me if they all chime in just as Flake has.

There might be no change, but they could send some shivers and maybe cause Mitt to call Kavanaugh off because of both timing and politics.

If Kavanaugh starts smelling bad enough Mitch might have to consider Senate elections.

I hope anyway.

And yes, Iā€™m gonna give them Democrats credit for the fight. Carry on!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:15:22pm

Democrats should also not let go of the truth that hundreds of thousands of Kavanaugh documents have been withheld from inspection and that a lawyer who worked with Kavanaughā€”and not the National Archives as is customā€”has been in charge of choosing what was released.

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austin_blue  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:16:22pm

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

For the first time I have hope that Kavanaugh can be stopped. Of course, Trumpā€™s second choice will be just as inclined to support the GOP agenda as Kavanaugh.

But not until after the mid-terms.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:17:15pm

re: #339 Barefoot Grin

Democrats should also not let go of the truth that hundreds of thousands of Kavanaugh documents have been withheld from inspection and that a lawyer who worked with Kavanaughā€”and not the National Archives as is customā€”has been in charge of choosing what was released.

Yep. This is a series of things wrong with him.

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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:18:05pm

re: #339 Barefoot Grin

Democrats should also not let go of the truth that hundreds of thousands of Kavanaugh documents have been withheld from inspection and that a lawyer who worked with Kavanaughā€”and not the National Archives as is customā€”has been in charge of choosing what was released.

Quite true: and now that the truth has come out about one accusation - which sounds credible enough: who knows what other damaging/unsavory information might be lurking in those vast volumes of ā€œclassifiedā€ documents?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:19:36pm

re: #342 Jay C

Quite true: and now that the truth has come out about one accusation - which sounds credible enough: who knows what other damaging/unsavory information might be lurking in those vast volumes of ā€œclassifiedā€ documents?

Thatā€™s why there needs to be disclosure. They took a gamble on portraying Kavanaugh as the good Catholic school boy while hiding his docs and hoping that this wouldnā€™t come out.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:22:24pm

Wow, Tom Nichols really stepped in it today with his caveman bullshit. He got seriously ratioā€™ed.

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austin_blue  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:23:19pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Thatā€™s why there needs to be disclosure. They took a gamble on portraying Kavanaugh as the good Catholic school boy while hiding his docs and hoping that this wouldnā€™t come out.

And we know why, donā€™t we? He supported waterboarding and torture in general.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:23:30pm

re: #336 Targetpractice

A single accuser was enough for Trump and every Republican to demand Frankenā€™s resignation, even though she had publicly forgiven him and considered the matter closed.

Frankenā€™s case wasnā€™t full out assault.

And that is not to excuse Al. Just talking about degree of seriousness.

Tie this behavior to the way he brushed off Fred Guttenberg, the father of the slain Parkland student.

He has a cold heart. And that is bad for a judge.

But it sure explains why another unfeeling asshole picked him to be a Supreme Court Judge.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:27:38pm

Mre: #346 ObserverArt

Frankenā€™s case wasnā€™t full out assault.

And that is not to excuse Al. Just talking about degree of seriousness.

Tie this behavior to the way he brushed off Fred Guttenberg, the father of the slain Parkland student.

He has a cold heart. And that is bad for a judge.

But it sure explains why another unfeeling asshole picked him to be a Supreme Court Judge.

Is it bad I had forgotten how he was to Guttenberg? Youā€™re right. A lot wrong with this guy.

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stpaulbear  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:28:44pm

re: #321 b.d.(tremendously big & tremendously wet)

David Frum
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@davidfrum
If you have a teenage daughter, ask her what she thinks of such ā€œyouthful indiscretions.ā€ Might be eye-opening

Hell, ask your teenage son too.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:30:07pm

re: #347 HappyWarrior

M

Is it bad I had forgotten how he was to Guttenberg? Youā€™re right. A lot wrong with this guy.

ā€œCharacterā€ is getting dinged big time. He has none.

Heā€™s an ideologue. Being impartial would be difficult for him. Not good material.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:31:14pm

re: #349 ObserverArt

ā€œCharacterā€ is getting dinged big time. He has none.

Heā€™s an ideologue. Being impartial would be difficult for him. Not good material.

Yep heā€™s lacking character and heā€™s a partisan hack.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:32:33pm

re: #346 ObserverArt

Frankenā€™s case wasnā€™t full out assault.

And that is not to excuse Al. Just talking about degree of seriousness.

Tie this behavior to the way he brushed off Fred Guttenberg, the father of the slain Parkland student.

He has a cold heart. And that is bad for a judge.

But it sure explains why another unfeeling asshole picked him to be a Supreme Court Judge.

Iā€™m looking more at dealing with that thing we were told months back would make running Franken out on a rail all ā€œworth itā€: The ability to hold the GOP to that same standard. Being able to take them to the woodshed over allegations like these. Theyā€™re already trying to seize that conversation by arguing that her allegations are ā€œtrivialā€ and ā€œsomething all guys do.ā€ We need to remind folks at every opportunity that a tasteless photograph was enough to end a Senatorā€™s career, so attempted rape should not get a pass because ā€œShe didnā€™t say anything at the time.ā€

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:33:41pm

Russia and their gift that keeps on giving.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:34:14pm

re: #351 Targetpractice

Iā€™m looking more at dealing with that thing we were told months back would make running Franken out on a rail all ā€œworth itā€: The ability to hold the GOP to that same standard. Being able to take them to the woodshed over allegations like these. Theyā€™re already trying to seize that conversation by arguing that her allegations are ā€œtrivialā€ and ā€œsomething all guys do.ā€ We need to remind folks at every opportunity that a tasteless photograph was enough to end a Senatorā€™s career, so attempted rape should not get a pass because ā€œShe didnā€™t say anything at the time.ā€

I am still so pissed off over the fact that Frankenā€™s career was wrecked over what was essentially a nontroversy. I even had this discussion with Mrs. Fish, who is an avid supporter of the #MeToo movement (and for good reason!), but I pointed out that the potential for abuse exists when ideologues can engineer the downfall of a rival by provoking an artificial outrage using the movement as a cover.

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:35:27pm

Profiles in ā€œCourageā€:

This is one of those cases Iā€™m getting at, Collins was vocally ā€œdisgustedā€ by the allegations made against Franken and demanded his resignation. But a woman comes forward alleging far worse against Kavanaugh and itā€™s suddenly ā€œI donā€™t know enough.ā€

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:36:58pm

re: #348 stpaulbear

Hell, ask your teenage son too.

Especially if heā€™s around Catholics very muchā€¦

/sorry not sorry

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:37:49pm

re: #355 wrenchwench

Especially if heā€™s around Catholics very muchā€¦

/sorry not sorry

*WHACK!*

ā€¦But well played.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:38:10pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

Profiles in ā€œCourageā€:

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This is one of those cases Iā€™m getting at, Collins was vocally ā€œdisgustedā€ by the allegations made against Franken and demanded his resignation. But a woman comes forward alleging far worse against Kavanaugh and itā€™s suddenly ā€œI donā€™t know enough.ā€

Coward.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:39:22pm

re: #351 Targetpractice

Iā€™m looking more at dealing with that thing we were told months back would make running Franken out on a rail all ā€œworth itā€: The ability to hold the GOP to that same standard. Being able to take them to the woodshed over allegations like these. Theyā€™re already trying to seize that conversation by arguing that her allegations are ā€œtrivialā€ and ā€œsomething all guys do.ā€ We need to remind folks at every opportunity that a tasteless photograph was enough to end a Senatorā€™s career, so attempted rape should not get a pass because ā€œShe didnā€™t say anything at the time.ā€

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:40:40pm

re: #356 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

*WHACK!*

ā€¦But well played.

Seems a person always has the biggest grudge against the cult one was a member of. I was confirmed, but not excommunicated, so they still get to count me in their World-Wide totals.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:41:49pm

re: #359 wrenchwench

Seems a person always has the biggest grudge against the cult one was a member of. I was confirmed, but not excommunicated, so they still get to count me in their World-Wide totals.

You preach it, sister. You know how aggressively I oppose the wingnut fundamentalist Protestant sects. Speaking of which, we had a new one this weekend - at the town festival, a wingnut wackjob was protestingā€¦ our churchā€¦

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:43:06pm

GOP decides theyā€™ve gotten this far with keeping shit hidden, decide to keep the streak alive:

Fucking cowards.

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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:43:08pm

re: #360 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You preach it, sister. You know how aggressively I oppose the wingnut fundamentalist Protestant sects. Speaking of which, we had a new one this weekend - at the town festival, a wingnut wackjob was protestingā€¦ our churchā€¦

A sure sign yā€™all are doing something right.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:43:51pm

re: #361 Targetpractice

GOP decides theyā€™ve gotten this far with keeping shit hidden, decide to keep the streak alive:

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Fucking cowards.

Canā€™t spell Grassley with out ass.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:44:25pm

re: #362 wrenchwench

A sure sign yā€™all are doing something right.

We ran into him at our tech team small group on Friday night, when he was protesting at a concert prior to the festival yesterday. One of us engaged him in debate, up until the point where apparently he got flustered and said, ā€œLeave me alone, Iā€™ve got preaching to do.ā€ Props to my techies for being able to kick his ass so thoroughly that he ran away.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:44:56pm

re: #354 Targetpractice

Profiles in ā€œCourageā€:

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This is one of those cases Iā€™m getting at, Collins was vocally ā€œdisgustedā€ by the allegations made against Franken and demanded his resignation. But a woman comes forward alleging far worse against Kavanaugh and itā€™s suddenly ā€œI donā€™t know enough.ā€

Well, she isnā€™t saying it doesnā€™t matter.

It is the Susan Collins Dance. She will take one step forwardā€¦one step backā€¦get some media attention and act studied. And it will take more time to console her and the Democrats and others keep digging through documents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:46:04pm

re: #352 Single-handed sailor

Russia and their gift that keeps on giving.

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pretty sure any Russians in the vicinity were just visiting cathedralsā€¦

O_o

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:47:43pm

re: #332 Jay C

I doubt it: if Kavanaughā€™s nomination gets voted down by the full Senate (AFAIK, the only way it can be derailed: itā€™s been, IIRC, reported out positively - 11-10 vote on party lines, of course- by the Judiciary Committee), the chances that any replacement candidate King Orangeanus might be able to conjure up from (or be supplied by) the Federalist Society wishlist of hacks in any time to be of use before the new session of Congress in January are pretty low. Near-zero, IMO. Mitch McConnell is a pretty effective Leader in the Senate, but if he canā€™t hold his (slim) Majority together to push through a Super-Approved Stellar Jurist nominee like Brett Kavanaugh before the elections, itā€™s hard to see how he would (or could) do squat to ā€œram throughā€ another one after: especially if facing Minority status come January 3 (?)ā€¦.

If Kavanaughā€™s name is withdrawn this week, Trump can name a new nominee next week, he can do meet and greets in early October, they can bring him before the Committee Mid-November and have a vote before Christmas, ESPECIALLY if they face minority status come January because if thatā€™s the case their opportunity to stack the Court will be gone.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:49:06pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:49:08pm

re: #367 Big Beautiful Door

If Kavanaughā€™s name is withdrawn this week, Trump can name a new nominee next week, he can do meet and greets in early October, they can bring him before the Committee Mid-November and have a vote before Christmas, ESPECIALLY if they face minority status come January because if thatā€™s the case their opportunity to stack the Court will be gone.

Since that is evil, it is what they will do. ASAP.

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ipsos  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:50:00pm

re: #367 Big Beautiful Door

If the Dems do take the Senate in November, they can and should stop anything from happening during that lame-duck session. Deny Mitch a quorum on any Senate action, if need be. If the will of the people is clear, the Senate Dems arenā€™t going to lose any support by standing their ground on this.

Unless the replacement nominee is Merrick Garland.

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freetoken  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:50:14pm

re: #367 Big Beautiful Door

Iā€™m having a hard time imagining Trump will withdraw the nomination.

Also having a hard time thinking any Republican will vote against the nominee. At best we can hope that a couple of Senators will just sit out, but I think that is a very long shot.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:50:33pm

The Stonekettle thread is good too, but this is a great line:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:50:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:51:12pm

Just noticed the stats on this snarky subtweet. Oh hai Tom!

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:55:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:56:07pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:56:12pm

re: #371 freetoken

Iā€™m having a hard time imagining Trump will withdraw the nomination.

Also having a hard time thinking any Republican will vote against the nominee. At best we can hope that a couple of Senators will just sit out, but I think that is a very long shot.

Weā€™ll see if Collins, Murkowski and Flake have the stomach to put a rapist on the Court. I had no hope before today; now I have some.

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:56:31pm

re: #368 Charles Johnson

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Am I seeing it correctly, he took the tweet down and said it was bad form by him?

But he did save a screen shot of the original post so he can readily show he is not denying it, right?

Maybe he learns something, but I doubt it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:57:22pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:57:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:58:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:58:12pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My thoughts exactly. It definitely impacted her. Brushing it aside as a youthful antic or likening to besting someone up for lunch money as Nichols and Erickson did says a lot.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:59:19pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tomi Lehren: stupid or a hack who would sell her own family for movement conservatism?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 5:59:56pm

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Tomi Lehren: stupid or a hack who would sell her own family for movement conservatism?

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:00:28pm

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

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They definitely canā€™t be trusted.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:00:39pm

And the idea that the GOP will play fair in some future imbroglio is patent bullshit. Fock Tom Nichols.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:01:13pm

re: #309 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Thatā€™s OK. If we win the midterms, there is precedent for denying the previous lame ducks a vote on any issues. Thanks, Republicans!

And you think republicans will care about prededents?

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mmmirele  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:01:16pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:01:23pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:01:56pm

re: #381 goddamnedfrank

Iā€™m prepared to die on that hill, because the worst I did at 17 was being a creepy-ass borderline stalker in the manner typical of lonely young nerds of the 1990ā€™s. If you want to bring any of that up, go ahead, but at least I didnā€™t try to, you know, RAPE SOMEBODY.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:02:15pm

re: #388 fern01

And you think republicans will care about prededents?

No, I donā€™t. I should have added sarc tags.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:02:21pm

re: #335 The Vicious Babushka

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Erick keeps reminding us that heā€™s nothing but an idiot.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:02:23pm

re: #389 mmmirele

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Thereā€™s something really wrong with Tomi that she doesnā€™t understand that. Not to mention the fact that SHE did mention it in 2012. But these are the same fuckwads that believe in the Clinton Body Count bullshit too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:03:05pm

re: #393 Patricia Kayden

Erick keeps reminding us that heā€™s nothing but an idiot.

Not an idiot, an asshole.

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prairiefire  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:06:16pm

ā€œJust another football player rapistā€

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:07:04pm

Iā€™m of the opinion that Tom Nichols is overly impressed with his opinion, especially given how little thought he appears to have put into it before hitting ā€˜postā€™.

And heā€™s a Conservative, whatever else he is, with all the dismissal of nonwhite nonold nonChristian nonmenā€™s experiences that comes with it.

He means well, but of course, thatā€™s not saying a hell of a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:08:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:08:24pm

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Not an idiot, an asshole.

Not mutually exclusive.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:08:42pm

BBQ with a light show, for tonights smoked wings.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:09:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:09:14pm

re: #399 Blind Frog Belly White

Not mutually exclusive.

True that.

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ipsos  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:09:46pm

re: #378 Big Beautiful Door

Weā€™ll see if Collins, Murkowski and Flake have the stomach to put a rapist on the Court. I had no hope before today; now I have some.

I assume Sasse will trot obediently behind Flake in whatever noble and highly principled decision Flake makes.

And for some reason, Iā€™m still holding it in the back of my head that Tim Scott in South Carolina (of all people) actually stopped a lower Trump nominee a few months back on an actual matter of principle. Would he do it again?

Somehow, I suspect that if Kavanaugh is going to be stopped this late in the game, Collins and Murkowski wonā€™t be the ones leading the charge. Collins, especially, will equivocate in the wind and fall in behind Flake and Sasse as the 52nd and 53rd no votes.

Maybe even 53rd and 54thā€¦ we have no idea, after all, whether Jon Kyl has any spine as an appointed McCain replacement without any skin in the re-election game.

Itā€™s nice, if nothing else, to see a fairly broad consensus that at this point in the game, the red-state Democrats up for reelection have nothing to gain by voting yes on Kavanaugh. Collins and Murkowski and Flake and Sasse canā€™t fall back on the idea that Donnelly or Heitkamp will be the 50th or 51st yes vote and give them cover to be #52 or 53 on that side.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:11:25pm

I think Jake Tapper just took the record for the earliest deployment of this joke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:12:16pm
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FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:12:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:16:22pm

re: #403 ipsos

I assume Sasse will trot obediently behind Flake in whatever noble and highly principled decision Flake makes.

And for some reason, Iā€™m still holding it in the back of my head that Tim Scott in South Carolina (of all people) actually stopped a lower Trump nominee a few months back on an actual matter of principle. Would he do it again?

Somehow, I suspect that if Kavanaugh is going to be stopped this late in the game, Collins and Murkowski wonā€™t be the ones leading the charge. Collins, especially, will equivocate in the wind and fall in behind Flake and Sasse as the 52nd and 53rd no votes.

Maybe even 53rd and 54thā€¦ we have no idea, after all, whether Jon Kyl has any spine as an appointed McCain replacement without any skin in the re-election game.

Itā€™s nice, if nothing else, to see a fairly broad consensus that at this point in the game, the red-state Democrats up for reelection have nothing to gain by voting yes on Kavanaugh. Collins and Murkowski and Flake and Sasse canā€™t fall back on the idea that Donnelly or Heitkamp will be the 50th or 51st yes vote and give them cover to be #52 or 53 on that side.

Kylā€™s not stopping this guy. He was shepherding his nomination until Ducey made him McCainā€™s replacement.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:16:46pm

re: #406 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

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Jeezus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:17:47pm
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Jay C  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:18:14pm

re: #403 ipsos

Itā€™s nice, if nothing else, to see a fairly broad consensus that at this point in the game, the red-state Democrats up for reelection have nothing to gain by voting yes on Kavanaugh. Collins and Murkowski and Flake and Sasse canā€™t fall back on the idea that Donnelly or Heitkamp will be the 50th or 51st yes vote and give them cover to be #52 or 53 on that side.

More importantly, for those ā€œred-state Democrats up for reelectionā€, do they have anything to lose by voting ā€œnoā€?

Also: Jon Kyl was/is one of Kavanaughā€™s main backers for the SCOTUS nomination all along, so heā€™s a definite ā€œyesā€ vote in any circumstances.
And Tim Scott (SC)? Whatever other qualms he might have about nominees, heā€™s got to know that as a black man, he wouldnā€™t be able to get anywhere in South Carolina politics without being a reliable Republican Machine hack - and the Republican Machine wants Brett Kavanaugh on the SC so there we areā€¦.

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steve_davis  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:20:37pm

re: #136 dangerman

Looting is code
Like thug

there is literally an article somewhere on this. White people wading through water with shit they just took out of closed store: ā€œHeroic white people valiantly organize self-help committees in face of natural disaster.ā€ Black people wading through water with shit thy just took out of a closed store: ā€œN****rs go on rampage, stealing food and water from hard-working white salt-of-the-earthers.ā€

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ObserverArt  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:20:54pm

Corker now too?

Called it if so, because they are so easy.

Sasse will be up next.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:21:27pm
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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:23:19pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

I think Jake Tapper just took the record for the earliest deployment of this joke.

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And there are some great replies.

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can't think of a decent username  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:27:07pm

Trying to decide whether to try Netflix again.

I dropped it last time ā€˜cause at some point, I realized over a month had passed with me watching absolutely nothing on the service. (And I never even finished watching the first season of ā€œStranger Things.ā€) But there are quite a few things out Iā€™d like to see that they supposedly have on their service, so trying to figure out if Iā€™d actually watch them or just transition straight back into my non-movie-watching habitsā€¦ :/

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:28:28pm

re: #327 Single-handed sailor

ā€¦
Tommy Christopher
āœ”
@tommyxtopher
This is confidence-inspiring: Trump FEMA director says he is ā€œfocused on Floyd right now.ā€

11:35 AM - Sep 16, 2018
27
25 people are talking about this

ā€¦

Iā€™m giving him a pass on this ā€” people have these slips of the tongue all the time, especially in live interviews. My guess is that he is probably exhausted dealing with weather crisis. Letā€™s focus on the real flaws in this administrationā€™s handling of crises, and not a minor misstatement.

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TedStriker  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:31:47pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

I think Jake Tapper just took the record for the earliest deployment of this joke.

Eventually, at this rate, Fridayā€™s gonna come last Tuesday.

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teleskiguy  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:32:45pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:34:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:36:53pm

re: #418 teleskiguy

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She was and is very brave.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:37:40pm

re: #419 Charles Johnson

Iā€™m on the nite shift in the NOCā€¦..

I say 4:07am Central will be 1st Tweet.

What say you?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:38:39pm

Heā€™s going to call her crazy or some unhinged crap like that and probably deflect.

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Belafon  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:41:10pm

re: #422 HappyWarrior

Heā€™s going to call her crazy or some unhinged crap like that and probably deflect.

I think it will follow this train but definitely rantier: Nothing happened, sheā€™s lying, it happened 35 years ago, why didnā€™t shy try to stop him the first time?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:42:00pm

re: #423 Belafon

I think it will follow this train but definitely rantier: Nothing happened, sheā€™s lying, it happened 35 years ago, why didnā€™t shy try to stop him the first time?

Yeah victim blaming and probably repeating hte GOP party line that he(Kavanaugh) respects women.

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FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:43:36pm

Why do I think itā€™s going to be Elon Musk in a fake mustache?

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:44:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:46:03pm

re: #426 Dave In Austin

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Okay, good Wilson isnā€™t pulling a Nichols on this. Sometimes Wilson still reminds us heā€™s a GOP foot soldier but he does seem genuinely bothered by this as does Frum. I donā€™t know guys. I think we can sink Kavanaugh possibly. Maybe not but fate has a funny way of acting.

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FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:47:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:48:34pm

re: #428 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

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Itā€™s easy to get lost in the shit show. Itā€™s even easier to get lost within the shit show. OA had brought up how Kavanaugh treated Mr. Guttenberg. I had honestly forgotten that after all thatā€™s come out and the possibly perjury.

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freetoken  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:49:42pm

Once again I am reminded that what we are seeing with Trump and the Trumpers is the working out of a religious war.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:52:37pm

re: #425 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

Why do I think itā€™s going to be Elon Musk in a fake mustache?

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Buzz Aldrin. What else could the Coolest Guy in the World do to cap his career?

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Targetpractice  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:53:50pm

ā€œYouthful hijinksā€ to describe attempted rape, from the same folks who characterized bragging about sexual assault as ā€œlocker room talkā€ and thought it was ā€œromanticā€ for an older man to prey on young girls.

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CleverToad  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:54:21pm

re: #419 Charles Johnson

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Rants about Prof. Ford interspersed with shrieks of Witch Hunt, because all Kavanaugh means to Trump is a shield against Mueller. Fox and Friends will happily focus on Ford because it means they can avoid talking about the Friday Flip. I mean, that guilty plea is sooooo last week, thereā€™s all this new shiny stuff to distract the baseā€¦

Will be interesting to see when ā€” or if ā€” he mentions Manafort by name again, because that little bombshell is probably still echoing around the walls of the Oval Office.

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freetoken  Sep 16, 2018 • 6:58:50pm

Working on my genealogy this afternoon, and looking at some DNA matches (to harken back to a discussion from the other day), and once again I come across many examples of how difficult it is to come to grips with the past.

Many people donā€™t give a mind to their ancestors, but if they do it is unlikely they know about anyone past their grandparents.

Understanding the past takes some work, and this I propose is why so many Americans can be so easily mislead by well spoken polemicists.

That some of the ā€œfounding fathersā€, especially those who expounded upon ideology and were instrumental in the Constitution, were definitely not Christian, and some who were labeled as ā€œChristianā€ were so in a way that todayā€™s ā€œconservativesā€ would say were not true Christians, is not something one will hear from many pulpits.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:00:43pm

re: #432 Targetpractice

ā€œYouthful hijinksā€ to describe attempted rape, from the same folks who characterized bragging about sexual assault as ā€œlocker room talkā€ and thought it was ā€œromanticā€ for an older man to prey on young girls.

SOP for men who think women only exist to be owned by men and to be their property.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:01:51pm

re: #434 freetoken

Working on my genealogy this afternoon, and looking at some DNA matches (to harken back to a discussion from the other day), and once again I come across many examples of how difficult it is to come to grips with the past.

Many people donā€™t give a mind to their ancestors, but if they do it is unlikely they know about anyone past their grandparents.

Understanding the past takes some work, and this I propose is why so many Americans can be so easily mislead by well spoken polemicists.

That some of the ā€œfounding fathersā€, especially those who expounded upon ideology and were instrumental in the Constitution, were definitely not Christian, and some who were labeled as ā€œChristianā€ were so in a way that todayā€™s ā€œconservativesā€ would say were not true Christians.

Iā€™m glad you brought that up because I was talking the other day on my FB account with a friend who like me shares Union veterans in her line. I was talking about how with all the talk on CSA memorials, those of us with Union veterans donā€™t have our familyā€™s story talked about as much or romanticized. I pointed out that Iā€™m certain that my grandfatherā€™s grandfather was very likely not even a racial liberal by his day but heā€™ll always have my appreciation that he stood by his adoptive nation in a difficult hour and chose it over human chattel.But you are so right about understanding the past. It does take work.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:02:13pm

WHY DID SHE WAIT 35 YEARS TO COME FORWARD!!!11!!!

Uh, because she didnā€™t want to get all the death threats & public doxxing that sheā€™s getting now?

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:02:15pm

re: #392 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No, I donā€™t. I should have added sarc tags.

Sorry - I should have read the sarc - and I wasnā€™t meaning to reply to you - rather to the pundits in the media who voice this type of nonsense - given what happened to Merrick Garland

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FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:02:35pm

I have not know Flakeā€™s lack of comfort to have previously prevented him from voting for anything else the party wanted

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calochortus  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:03:29pm

As much as I donā€™t want Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, I might be able to scrape up a little respect for him if he admitted and sincerely apologized for his long ago actions. I might even agree that what one does as a teenager does not necessarily disqualify one for high office.
As it is, he obviously remembers and knows itā€™s a problem since they had all those character witnesses lined up, but he doesnā€™t give a damn about what he did.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:06:12pm

re: #397 Blind Frog Belly White

Iā€™m of the opinion that Tom Nichols is overly impressed with his opinion, especially given how little thought he appears to have put into it before hitting ā€˜postā€™.

And heā€™s a Conservative, whatever else he is, with all the dismissal of nonwhite nonold nonChristian nonmenā€™s experiences that comes with it.

He means well, but of course, thatā€™s not saying a hell of a lot.

I donā€™t think he realises (or just banishes the thought) that there is a high probability that this is not a one off event - and he seems to forget that Kavanaugh and friend have denied that it even happened. The coverup can be the downfall.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:06:25pm

re: #421 Dave In Austin

Iā€™m on the nite shift in the NOCā€¦..

I say 4:07am Central will be 1st Tweet.

What say you?

Give me $10 on 4:22.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:06:57pm

Oh and definitely African-American Civil War vets who are totally forgotten with the exception of the movie Glory. Those were some brave brave men who risked getting thrown into slavery if they were captured REGARDLESS of their pre-war status and you know who maintained that practice, Robert E. Lee, thatā€™s why I donā€™t buy into the mythos of Lee the reluctant slave owner and secessionist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:11:22pm
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calochortus  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:14:18pm

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thatā€™s especially not a denial from someone who, if I understand correctly, had a serious alcohol problem in high school. I imagine thereā€™s a lot he doesnā€™t remember.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:15:35pm

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And he was a blackout drunk in those days. Probably doesnā€™t have the best memory and wouldnā€™t be my go to for an alibi.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:18:02pm

re: #444 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Has anybody noted yet on a wide-open channel that Mark Judge is apparently a creepy producer of softcore teen voyeur porn, and Yet Another Rape Philosopher to boot? He apparently deleted his youtube channel and hid some other accounts this afternoon after the big news broke. I saw some things retweeted from the Lincolnā€™s Bible twitter account that wereā€¦ Well, pretty typical, actually, these days. Ugh.

Edit: Let me see if I can link the tweets

Double edit: may be NSFW

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:19:38pm

re: #421 Dave In Austin

Iā€™m on the nite shift in the NOCā€¦..

I say 4:07am Central will be 1st Tweet.

What say you?

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calochortus  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:23:07pm

re: #448 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh yes. Attempted rape is ā€œSilly things.ā€

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Skip Intro  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:23:35pm

re: #439 FormerDirtDart šŸ•šŸ€

I have not know Flakeā€™s lack of comfort to have previously prevented him from voting for anything else the party wanted

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Heā€™ll get over it. He always has.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:23:37pm

re: #416 Hecubaā€™s daughter

ā€¦

Iā€™m giving him a pass on this ā€” people have these slips of the tongue all the time, especially in live interviews. My guess is that he is probably exhausted dealing with weather crisis. Letā€™s focus on the real flaws in this administrationā€™s handling of crises, and not a minor misstatement.

He also supported trump as to the deaths in Puerto Rico - and donā€™t forget about the outrage with the 57 states. Like all things, the rules are different for republicans.

He is supporting trump - to retain his job.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:28:09pm

re: #433 CleverToad

Rants about Prof. Ford interspersed with shrieks of Witch Hunt, because all Kavanaugh means to Trump is a shield against Mueller. Fox and Friends will happily focus on Ford because it means they can avoid talking about the Friday Flip. I mean, that guilty plea is sooooo last week, thereā€™s all this new shiny stuff to distract the baseā€¦

Will be interesting to see when ā€” or if ā€” he mentions Manafort by name again, because that little bombshell is probably still echoing around the walls of the Oval Office.

trump is probably quite pleased at the Kavanaugh story - gets Manafort out of the news and also gets his stupid lies about the PR deaths away from the front pages.

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fern01  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:33:17pm

re: #434 freetoken

Iā€™ve got back to the 1600s on some branches without the need for dna. Iā€™m slightly paranoid about what other uses the dna tests may be used for.

I have managed to find all the gg grandparents and further back on some lines. Have found living relatives in the USA, Canada, Australia, NZ, England & Scotland. My searches fail when I get to Ireland. dna could be the answer to that branch.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:40:02pm

re: #448 Eclectic Cyborg

That means no sleeping tonight.

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sagehen  Sep 16, 2018 • 7:44:03pm

re: #411 steve_davis

there is literally an article somewhere on this. White people wading through water with shit they just took out of closed store: ā€œHeroic white people valiantly organize self-help committees in face of natural disaster.ā€ Black people wading through water with shit thy just took out of a closed store: ā€œN****rs go on rampage, stealing food and water from hard-working white salt-of-the-earthers.ā€

snopes.com

Claim: News photograph captions describe a black man ā€œlootingā€ and a white couple ā€œfindingā€ supplies in the wake of Hurricane Katrina.

Finding: True

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 16, 2018 • 9:23:59pm

re: #415 canā€™t think of a decent username

Trying to decide whether to try Netflix again.

I dropped it last time ā€˜cause at some point, I realized over a month had passed with me watching absolutely nothing on the service. (And I never even finished watching the first season of ā€œStranger Things.ā€) But there are quite a few things out Iā€™d like to see that they supposedly have on their service, so trying to figure out if Iā€™d actually watch them or just transition straight back into my non-movie-watching habitsā€¦ :/

I donā€™t know what you like, but there is a new season of BoJack Horseman and its brilliant.

457
Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:41:46pm

re: #344 Charles Johnson

Wow, Tom Nichols really stepped in it today with his caveman bullshit. He got seriously ratioā€™ed.

He blocked me a year ago. I canā€™t say Iā€™m shocked, tho.


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