The Corrupt Republican Plot to Maintain Control of Government

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Good analysis by Brian Beutler: The Corrupt Republican Plot to Maintain Control of Government.

Facing the real prospect that their long-sought fifth anti-abortion Supreme Court justice might go unseated, and President Trump’s growing legal exposure, the Republican Party is charging into election season with a two-fronted disinformation campaign, in a desperate effort to salvage conservative control not just of the Court, but of Congress and the White House as well.

Specifically, they are maximizing confusion about whether Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted a 15 year old girl when he and she were both high school students, and about the legitimacy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. And they are advancing both goals with naked abuses of power.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:08:19am

Doing the Bob Cesca podcast today…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:08:54am

Speaking of corrupt Republicans:
NRA Says It’ll Spend at Least $1 Million on Pro-Kavanaugh Ads

The National Rifle Association says it’ll spend at least $1 million on television ads urging the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court in states represented by four vulnerable Democratic senators and a Republican considered a key vote on the nomination.

The advertisements promoting President Donald Trump’s nominee will run on cable and local broadcast stations as well as on digital platforms in Alabama, Alaska, Indiana, North Dakota and West Virginia. It adds to the flood of money from outside groups on both sides of the confirmation fight that will take place in the Senate in the fall.

“The NRA strongly supports Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the U.S. Supreme Court because he will protect our constitutional right to keep and bear arms,” Chris W. Cox, executive director of the group, said in a statement on Tuesday. “It’s critical that all pro-Second Amendment voters urge their senators to confirm Judge Kavanaugh.”

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:10:17am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Doing the Bob Cesca podcast today…

Yea!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:10:40am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Doing the Bob Cesca podcast today…

I subscribe for the ad-free version. but rarely listen to the podcast, because Patreon stops playback and resets to the beginning several times almost every time. It played all the way through once. I don’t think playback can survive a single lost packet.

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CongoJack  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:11:13am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Doing the Bob Cesca podcast today…

Cant wait to listen to ya on Patreon!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:11:43am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Speaking of corrupt Republicans:
NRA Says It’ll Spend at Least $1 Million on Pro-Kavanaugh Ads

I’m shocked to see the NRA work against American women.
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Jay C  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:13:55am

from end-o-thread:

re: #636 dangerman

for the R’s - from now on this farce is all about trying to rehabilitate kavanaugh’s character. nothing else.

- either nothing happened. nothing at all - she’s a complete and total liar
or
- something happened, anything at all - and he cannot be a supreme court justice.
no explanations, no excuses, no ‘mitigations’

- if something did happen, then either he was blackout drunk and doesnt remember or else he’s the liar

AND - if something did happen, then either kavanaugh lied to mcgahn or mcgahn and the administration lied to us

there is no third way

the accusation is credible enough. this is long past rehabilitation. find someone else.

Well, unfortunately, I can see a “third way”: the SJC hears from Prof. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh on Monday: the Committee Democrats will probably question her respectfully: likely the Committee Repubs will berate, disparage and probably insult her to her face; then Grassley will rush a vote, which will pass on party lines, and the nom will go to the full Senate ASAP (with the RW media shitstorm dialed up to infinity).
Who is “lying” and who is “telling the truth”, still less issues of “character”, is irrelevant to today’s Republicans: they have a mission to accomplish, and - as usual - will stop at nothing to accomplish it, rules and customs be damned.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:18:21am

NRA has the gunz covered, and these cultists are bringing GAWD on board.
The quiet evangelical campaign to help Republicans hold onto the House and Senate

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:19:07am

re: #7 Jay C

from end-o-thread:

Well, unfortunately, I can see a “third way”: the SJC hears from Prof. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh on Monday: the Committee Democrats will probably question her respectfully: likely the Committee Repubs will berate, disparage and probably insult her to her face; then Grassley will rush a vote, which will pass on party lines, and the nom will go to the full Senate ASAP (with the RW media shitstorm dialed up to infinity).
Who is “lying” and who is “telling the truth”, still less issues of “character”, is irrelevant to today’s Republicans: they have a mission to accomplish, and - as usual - will stop at nothing to accomplish it, rules and customs be damned.

and to bring me forward too because i think you are right:

that’s what i meant by rehabilitating - i may have said it incompletely.
this theater show is to make him just palatable enough for all the r’s to vote for him

even though i think he, thomas, anyone with this kind of credible cloud over them should be totally and summarily disqualified

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Dave In Austin  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:19:07am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:20:28am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

NRA has the gunz covered, and these cultists are bringing GAWD on board.
The quiet evangelical campaign to help Republicans hold onto the House and Senate

The Evangelical opposition to anything that Jesus may have stood for disqualifies them from religion-based input on this. Their religion is a self-serving cult.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:22:35am

Remnants of Florence are now causing problems in the NYC metro area, North into upstate NY and across into CT, and MA too.

From NYC metro:

More flooding - from Staten Island where there were scattered outages.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:24:46am

re: #12 lawhawk

Remnants of Florence are now causing problems in the NYC metro area, North into upstate NY and across into CT, and MA too.

From NYC metro:

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We’re getting hammered with rain out here. It’s so heavy, I took my dog to the door to go out and he gave me a look like ‘You’re kidding, right?’ and went in and laid down again.

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BeachDem  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:27:01am

re: #12 lawhawk

Remnants of Florence are now causing problems in the NYC metro area, North into upstate NY and across into CT, and MA too.

From NYC metro:

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Maybe the yam will bring you some paper towels after he’s through fucking up the cleanup operations down here.

Speaking of ass-kissing—here’s Foghorn Leghorn puckering up:

McMaster: “I’ll tell you what, though, we are delighted to have had the attention and communication with President Trump and with (his) administration — officials and cabinet members.

“I think virtually all of them have been in communication numerous times. I know the President’s office has called … (state) Rep. Richie Yow (R-Chesterfield) and the (Chesterfield County) sheriff, I think three times in the last couple of days. There’s constant communication, and that’s something that’s very important.”

And supposedly Lindsey and Tim are flying down with him to get that much needed “concern” facetime. Good time to point out that, after Sandy, everyone in the SC delegation (except, of course, Clyburn) voted against the aid bills.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:27:22am

GOP men? Yeah, they wont. They’ll do what they’ve done all along - assert their privilege to control things and sit in judgment over women who they think they can abuse and control with impunity.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:29:32am

The New Yorker:

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:30:23am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:32:17am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:34:00am
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:34:43am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:35:58am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He looks a little Hispanic. If they change his name to Rodriguez, it’ll be fine.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:37:42am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:37:54am

re: #20 The Vicious Babushka

My mom foreclosed on her parents house and she’s mad about that.

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KGxvi  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:38:25am

re: #17 Single-handed sailor

Of course Trump’s attempt to declassify information to prove his innocence will end up showing the world that he’s guilty as fuck. There was no other way that move was going to end.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:39:07am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:40:40am

re: #24 KGxvi

Of course Trump’s attempt to declassify information to prove his innocence will end up showing the world that he’s guilty as fuck. There was no other way that move was going to end.

It’s possible that Trump is too senile to even know that he’s guilty. People around him keep telling him it’s fine, to calm him and stop the insane shouting.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:41:07am
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Jay C  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:41:45am

re: #19 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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From the linked article:

Criminal records show [suspect Collin] Richards has been charged with at least a dozen crimes, starting in 2014, including domestic abuse, assault, harassment, intimidation with a deadly weapon and theft. He was also charged with a misdemeanor in 2016 for carrying a knife that was longer than five inches.

So IOW, “charged” with three crimes a year every year since he turned 18? And he was still running around loose?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:43:36am

re: #25 Single-handed sailor

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Related:
Number of times Trump attacked the media for Maria: Several
Number of times Obama attacked the media for Benghazi: Notta
Time Mitt Romney seemed giddy about Benghazi:
One pitiful time

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:43:58am

re: #27 jaunte

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I thought he wasn’t there.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:44:05am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:44:43am

re: #28 Jay C

From the linked article:

So IOW, “charged” with three crimes a year every year since he turned 18? And he was still running around loose?

As far as I can tell he’s still white, so that should be expected. You have to be really bad to get locked up while white.

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KGxvi  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:45:35am

re: #26 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s possible that Trump is too senile to even know that he’s guilty. People around him keep telling him it’s fine, to calm him and stop the insane shouting.

I don’t buy the senility argument. Too wrapped up in his own narcissism? Sure, that I’ll buy. But I don’t think he’s senile. I think he’s a narcissistic asshole who has never worked a real job* in his life and thus has never had to deal with the consequences of his actions.

*He’s never had a paycheck that didn’t have his family name as the issuing party, he went to work for dad, and then took over the company. And through it all had people willing to cover/clean up for him (in part by keeping him from doing anything to stupidly high profile).

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:46:25am

re: #26 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It’s possible that Trump is too senile to even know that he’s guilty. People around him keep telling him it’s fine, to calm him and stop the insane shouting.

He knows he is guilty. He’s been guilty of doing questionable stuff his whole life. It is his way.

So I don’t think even senility can be used as an excuse. Familiarity with his own ways overrules.

Probable Trump: “I don’t remember doing that. But, I know I probably would have, so it is a safe bet I did!”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:46:25am

re: #33 KGxvi

I don’t buy the senility argument. Too wrapped up in his own narcissism? Sure, that I’ll buy. But I don’t think he’s senile. I think he’s a narcissistic asshole who has never worked a real job* in his life and thus has never had to deal with the consequences of his actions.

*He’s never had a paycheck that didn’t have his family name as the issuing party, he went to work for dad, and then took over the company. And through it all had people willing to cover/clean up for him (in part by keeping him from doing anything to stupidly high profile).

Sounds legit to me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:47:02am

re: #33 KGxvi

I don’t buy the senility argument. Too wrapped up in his own narcissism? Sure, that I’ll buy. But I don’t think he’s senile. I think he’s a narcissistic asshole who has never worked a real job* in his life and thus has never had to deal with the consequences of his actions.

*He’s never had a paycheck that didn’t have his family name as the issuing party, he went to work for dad, and then took over the company. And through it all had people willing to cover/clean up for him (in part by keeping him from doing anything to stupidly high profile).

I’m pretty sure he’s senile in addition to all the other disorders. I’ve seen him speak, and I’ve seen him wander off, including wandering out from behind bulletproof glass. I know a pudding-head when I see one.

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KGxvi  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:48:16am

re: #36 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m pretty sure he’s senile in addition to all the other disorders. I’ve seen him speak, and I’ve seen him wander off, including wandering out from behind bulletproof glass. I know a pudding-head when I see one.

I suppose at that age there might not be much of a difference between senility and being a fucking moron.

Sort of like the difference between being crazy and eccentric is a few million dollars.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:48:22am

re: #34 ObserverArt

He knows he is guilty. He’s been guilty of doing questionable stuff his whole life. It is his way.

So I don’t think even senility can be used as an excuse. Familiarity with his own ways overrules.

Probable Trump: “I don’t remember doing that. But, I know I probably would have, so it is a safe bet I did!”

I don’t think it’s an excuse, except in that maybe he should be moved to a hospital today, and the sane people around him should go to jail for enabling this madness with clear heads.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:48:36am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I thought he wasn’t there.

“Well even if he was there and did the thing she said. So what? Just libtards trying to character assassinate a good man conservative.”

/

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:49:27am

re: #37 KGxvi

I suppose at that age there might not be much of a difference between senility and being a fucking moron.

Sort of like the difference between being crazy and eccentric is a few million dollars.

So for public consumption where we pretend he’s a successful businessman, Trump is eccentric, and in reality he’s crazy.

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:49:32am

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I thought he wasn’t there.

Too many cooks spoiling the broth.

An old phrase but created for a reason.

Everyone is rushing to cook up protection for Kavanaugh and they aren’t all working from the same cookbook recipe.

What we get stinks, looks and tastes bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:50:17am

re: #41 ObserverArt

Too many cooks spoiling the broth.

And old phrase but created for a reason.

Everyone is rushing to cook up protection for Kavanaugh and they aren’t all working from the same cookbook recipe.

What we get stinks, looks and tastes bad.

It tastes like Catholic preppy boy asshole.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:50:30am

Jeez… these two engaged in a huge crime spree. Sex assaults/rapes of what investigators believe were perhaps 1,000 women.

I’m repeating: 1,000 women. This pair alleged to drug and rape/sexually assault women, and once two women came forward, investigators found more evidence, including videos.

Addendum:
Notice the crickets from the usual right wing nutters who think that undocumented persons are a greater threat than red blooded Americans. Turns out this one pair is accused of engaging in more crime than undocumented persons; and it fits the pattern where native born citizens engage in crime at far higher rate than illegal or legal immigrants.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:50:41am

re: #28 Jay C

From the linked article:

So IOW, “charged” with three crimes a year every year since he turned 18? And he was still running around loose?

Some of the other details are pretty bad. He apparently told an “acquaintance”** that he was thinking of raping/killing a woman, but the acquaintance never said anything to police. He also showed up at the house of another “acquaintance” in bloody clothes and dirty. He showered there, and left with the clothes in his backpack. As far as I can tell, this acquaintance did not notify authorities either. He also apparently gave the possible murder weapon to another friend to hold. Again, not clear that any of these people came forward—rather, it sounds like he became a suspect after tracking dogs followed the victim’s scent to his encampment.

**Not intended to be scare quotes—this is how the people were described in the article I read.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:52:35am

Beans, beans, the magical fruit
The more you eat, the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you feel
So eat your beans at every meal

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:53:12am

re: #45 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Beans, beans, the magical fruit
The more you eat, the more you toot
The more you toot, the better you feel
So eat your beans at every meal

Damn it

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:54:29am

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn it

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We all live in South Park now, which means all Canadians have split faces and fart all the time.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:54:34am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:55:31am

re: #43 lawhawk

Jeez… these two engaged in a huge crime spree. Sex assaults/rapes of what investigators believe were perhaps 1,000 women.

I’m repeating: 1,000 women. This pair alleged to drug and rape/sexually assault women, and once two women came forward, investigators found more evidence, including videos.

Whut? OMG

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:57:03am

Read that Kavanaugh is visiting the White House for the 2nd day in a row. My thought was that they are begging him to not drop out. He doesn’t want to be remembered as someone that didn’t get the votes needed. Also, the longer this lasts, and the more info that comes out, the more likely that his current job is in danger if/when democrats take over congress. Who wants to put their family through this?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:57:13am

I know it’s all about power but damn. If you want power, just play the Sims and drown them. Sorry for sounding silly. Not my intention. 1000 people. Glad they’re caught. May they never get out or on the Supreme Court.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:58:15am

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn it

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I’m sorry, but this sounds just like it would be on Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:01:27pm

re: #50 I Would Prefer Not To

Read that Kavanaugh is visiting the White House for the 2nd day in a row. My thought was that they are begging him to not drop out. He doesn’t want to be remembered as someone that didn’t get the votes needed. Also, the longer this lasts, and the more info that comes out, the more likely that his current job is in danger if/when democrats take over congress. Who wants to put their family through this?

Oh, he’ll get soft landing with a gig on the Fox news grifter circuit. They’ll need someone to replace Pirro, who spewed her nonsensical ravings all while facts overwhelmed her spiel.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:02:16pm

re: #50 I Would Prefer Not To

Read that Kavanaugh is visiting the White House for the 2nd day in a row. My thought was that they are begging him to not drop out. He doesn’t want to be remembered as someone that didn’t get the votes needed. Also, the longer this lasts, and the more info that comes out, the more likely that his current job is in danger if/when democrats take over congress. Who wants to put their family through this?

A man who was raised a spoiled, self-centered, egotistical bastard who couldn’t (and maybe still can’t) control his dick, groomed since birth for this specific job.

I wouldn’t doubt that Trump is damn near begging Kavanaugh to hang on and stay in it, because, if he were to withdraw or if enough GOPers heed the tea leaves regardless of McConnell and Grassley’s machinations, that means that Trump doesn’t get a “victory” and he just won’t and can’t have that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:03:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:03:11pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Oh, he’ll get soft landing with a gig on the Fox news grifter circuit. They’ll need someone to replace Pirro, who spewed her nonsensical ravings all while facts overwhelmed her spiel.

Napolitano can be a little too independent minded too for their comfort. Plus they can have him portrayed as a victim of the left even better.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:04:07pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

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Fucker.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:04:15pm

re: #52 TedStriker

I’m sorry, but this sounds just like it would be on Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop.

GOOP would sell some polished pebbles for $350 to put in your asshole to absorb the farts.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:05:22pm

re: #58 The Vicious Babushka

GOOP would sell some polished pebbles for $350 to put in your asshole to absorb the farts.

“Obsidian eggs”

For your cooch.

*barf*

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:05:30pm

re: #22 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

-Never happened
-Don’t know her
-I wasn’t at the party
-It was “rough horse play”

I bet the next are:

-She was drunk
-I rejected her afterwards and she is mad
-She is crazy
-She imagined it
-She is a crazy liberal with an agenda
-Soros paid her

cowards one and all

if you believe it, say it without equivocation: She’s lying.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:06:50pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn it

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Ok, now do ingested boogers….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:09:14pm

re: #61 Barefoot Grin

Ok, now do ingested boogers….

Please don’t give them any more ideas!

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:12:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:14:05pm

re: #63 jaunte

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Sloppy yes, designed to confuse also yes. Kavanaugh’s not dumb but he is desperate.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:15:26pm

re: #37 KGxvi

I suppose at that age there might not be much of a difference between senility and being a fucking moron.

Sort of like the difference between being crazy and eccentric is a few million dollars.

He may have the earliest beginnings of dementia but he’s not senile and he’s not a moron. The morons are those who continue to support him. He has no reason to believe that he has real problems — the entire GOP has abased itself to him and he still can get away with anything. He is using the office to become truly wealthy. So where’s his problem?

He thinks himself all-powerful and where has he received any meaningful pushback from the Republican party?

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Ming5000  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:16:20pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

As long as they are not breathed out until after the end of the massage session it is fine.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:19:04pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

Such presidential very leadership

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dangerman  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:19:31pm

just watching an old West Wing:

Leo: What are you gonna do?
Toby: Have the Justice departmetn bring him in for questioning pending felony charges
Josh: Toby’s right. what’s the good of being in power if you cant haul your enemies in for questioning
Toby: We’re really not going to do anything about htis?
Leo: Yeah Toby, because what we really need to do is arrest people for being mean to the president.
Toby: There is no law. there is no decnecy…

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:21:26pm

re: #67 Sir John Barron

Such presidential very leadership

It gets better. (By which I mean, it gets worse)

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:21:33pm

I am guessing we have lost both JordanRules and Bass Reeves over the ‘n’ word thing?

Haven’t seen a comment from either since that. Bummer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:23:44pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Jeez… these two engaged in a huge crime spree. Sex assaults/rapes of what investigators believe were perhaps 1,000 women.

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I’m repeating: 1,000 women. This pair alleged to drug and rape/sexually assault women, and once two women came forward, investigators found more evidence, including videos.

Addendum:
Notice the crickets from the usual right wing nutters who think that undocumented persons are a greater threat than red blooded Americans. Turns out this one pair is accused of engaging in more crime than undocumented persons; and it fits the pattern where native born citizens engage in crime at far higher rate than illegal or legal immigrants.

She has creepy eyes. Women who work on rape teams disgust me even more than the men, because they betray other women.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:24:44pm

re: #70 ObserverArt

I am guessing we have lost both JordanRules and Bass Reeves over the ‘n’ word thing?

Haven’t seen a comment from either since that. Bummer.

That would suck. I enjoyed both of their posts.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:26:14pm

I didn’t get invited to many parties when I was a teenager. At the time I felt bad about it because I thought I was unattractive and unpopular. Now I realize that it was a good thing my life wasn’t ruined.

But I think a girl should be able to go to a party and have fun without her life being ruined.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:26:54pm
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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:27:53pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:28:21pm

re: #70 ObserverArt

I am guessing we have lost both JordanRules and Bass Reeves over the ‘n’ word thing?

Haven’t seen a comment from either since that. Bummer.

Sticking to black blogs, they don’t ever have to face that from people they considered friends. Personally I don’t think one generally-good person having a bad night and being supported by his friends is a reason to go after being here for a long time, but I’m not in their position, and can see how bad it looks to someone who’s faced abuse using the word - and thought it was banned from Liberal blogs and would be shouted down.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:29:37pm
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Old Liberal  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:29:39pm

re: #70 ObserverArt

I am guessing we have lost both JordanRules and Bass Reeves over the ‘n’ word thing?

Haven’t seen a comment from either since that. Bummer.

You know, maybe calling it “the ‘n’ word thing” shows you still don’t get it.

How about “after some of us completely fucked up and showed our white ass privilege for which we are really sorry. We learned something important from that.”
Just sayin’

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:29:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:30:01pm

re: #74 jaunte

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That’s not true. Dictators too. Oh wait.

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:30:18pm

re: #72 makeitstop

That would suck. I enjoyed both of their posts.

Me too.

Not everyone here messed up. So, there is that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:30:22pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

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Now you’re spooking me!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:31:41pm

re: #78 Old Liberal

You know, maybe calling it “the ‘n’ word thing” shows you still don’t get it.

How about “after some of us completely fucked up and showed our white ass privilege for which we are really sorry. We learned something important from that.”
Just sayin’

We resemble Portland, OR, and that did not turn out well for minorities in Portland.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:32:35pm

re: #75 lawhawk

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The Central Park Five we’re cleared and you still wanted them killed. Kavanaugh’s not been cleared and you treat him as a victim. Not a damn word for Dr. Ford because why would you ever show empathy to someone you’re not especially a sexual assault victim.

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Nyet  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:33:14pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:33:20pm

re: #74 jaunte

He also expressed sympathy for Manafort, just a really good guy, great family, didn’t do anything wrong, didn’t flip, oh wait he did flip or might have flipped. That’s illegal.

/

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:34:02pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:34:03pm

re: #85 Nyet

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The old circular spectrum. Alas know it too well.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:34:10pm

re: #78 Old Liberal

You know, maybe calling it “the ‘n’ word thing” shows you still don’t get it.

How about “after some of us completely fucked up and showed our white ass privilege for which we are really sorry. We learned something important from that.”
Just sayin’

I fucked it up, and would definitely want to apologize to them if given the opportunity.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:34:43pm

re: #89 Belafon

I fucked it up, and would definitely want to apologize to them if given the opportunity.

Ditto. It wasn’t my place to say it wasn’t offensive. Context or not, that word has hurt so many people

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:36:05pm

re: #78 Old Liberal

I would give you multiple updings for your post if I could.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:36:38pm

re: #73 The Vicious Babushka

I didn’t get invited to many parties when I was a teenager. At the time I felt bad about it because I thought I was unattractive and unpopular. Now I realize that it was a good thing my life wasn’t ruined.

But I think a girl should be able to go to a party and have fun without her life being ruined.

They can, as long as they’re under 10 or over 30, the parties are pretty safe.
/yes that’s fucked up.

No woman should go to a high-school or college party that is not made up of close friends, and close friends rape women too. A lot of men are monsters, especially in the high-testosterone years, which is why some women work to make themselves intentionally unattractive. It’s a really bad situation, and wouldn’t happen if we were more than smart animals.

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Old Liberal  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:37:21pm

re: #89 Belafon

I fucked it up, and would definitely want to apologize to them if given the opportunity.

When we own our fuck-ups, we become better people. I wish a certain asshole named Kavanaugh would get a clue.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:38:50pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

I’m still coming to grips on where on the “can’t even” spectrum that falls.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:39:46pm

re: #93 Old Liberal

When we own our fuck-ups, we become better people. I wish a certain asshole named Kavanaugh would get a clue.

Which is the difference between the left and right.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:39:46pm

re: #93 Old Liberal

When we own our fuck-ups, we become better people. I wish a certain asshole named Kavanaugh would get a clue.

That’s true. Fuck ups are inevitable but it’s how we learn and become better that separates people.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:40:00pm

re: #75 lawhawk

lawhawk
@lawhawk
* 12m
Replying to @NBCNews
Trump is an awful judge of character given all the people who have now entered plea deals from his campaign, transition, and admin.

Kavanaugh is an accused sex predator who allegedly raped a woman.

Trump’s a self-admitted sex predator whose admission corroborates 18 women.

lawhawk
@lawhawk
Dr Ford didn’t deserve going through this either.

2:24 PM - Sep 18, 2018
1
See lawhawk’s other Tweets

The allegation is that Kavanaugh tried to rape her.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:41:02pm

re: #93 Old Liberal

When we own our fuck-ups, we become better people. I wish a certain asshole named Kavanaugh would get a clue.

You can judge a person not by how great a job they do, but how they handle their own screwups. Do they move to fix quickly and address the underlying issues, or do they pass the buck and blame others? Do they learn from the mistake, or do they go on and repeat it endlessly?

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:41:45pm

re: #78 Old Liberal

You know, maybe calling it “the ‘n’ word thing” shows you still don’t get it.

How about “after some of us completely fucked up and showed our white ass privilege for which we are really sorry. We learned something important from that.”
Just sayin’

Sorry. I didn’t know how to broach the subject and used words that are often used.

I thought we all said we fucked up after Bass Reeves made his comment.

I guess I am not good at this.

I think maybe I need to take off. I’m feeling pretty bad about this again.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:43:53pm

re: #97 Hecuba’s daughter

The allegation is that Kavanaugh tried to rape her.

It seems like she experienced everything but penetration from her assailant. Feeling her body, pulling at her clothes, and covering her mouth. Everyone who isn’t a self-identified Conservative will feel physically ill reading this description.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:44:29pm

re: #100 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It seems like she experienced everything but penetration from her assailant. Feeling her body, pulling at her clothes, and covering her mouth. Everyone who isn’t a self-identified Conservative will feel physically ill reading this description.

Reading her letter made me very angry.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:44:56pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Sorry. I didn’t know how to broach the subject and used words that are often used.

I thought we all said we fucked up after Bass Reeves made his comment.

I guess I am not good at this.

I think maybe I need to take off. I’m feeling pretty bad about this again.

I must have missed the whole thing.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:45:42pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:46:01pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Sorry. I didn’t know how to broach the subject and used words that are often used.

I thought we all said we fucked up after Bass Reeves made his comment.

I guess I am not good at this.

I think maybe I need to take off. I’m feeling pretty bad about this again.

I can see how an apology might not be good enough after several people supported the comment, and they may not have even seen the apologies. Maybe Charles could email them some comments where people feel horrible about it, or maybe that would be an intrusion from privileged people.

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Old Liberal  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:46:05pm

re: #98 lawhawk

You can judge a person not by how great a job they do, but how they handle their own screwups. Do they move to fix quickly and address the underlying issues, or do they pass the buck and blame others? Do they learn from the mistake, or do they go on and repeat it endlessly?

Can you even IMAGINE what might happen to this country if Kavanaugh said “I did that. I have no excuse. I was selfish and brutal and violent and entitled. Because of my behavior, you have had to live with pain and fear. I am sincerely sorry. I am not that man today, and I will do everything in my power to change attitudes so other men don’t behave like that. We cannot accept this from anyone anymore.”
A guy can dream, can’t he? If he did this, he’d shake the foundation of this country. But he’s just another fucking entitled asshole coward.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:46:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:47:20pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

I must have missed the whole thing.

Long story short Ski put the n word in Palin’s mouth when discussing Bristol’s ex the CMOH winner whose heroism she recently questioned. Bass took offense. A bunch of us myself included spoke up for Ski saying his intent wasn’t bad and he was just mocking Palin. I don’t think Ski meant harm but Bass is right about how ugly that word is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:47:39pm

re: #103 jaunte

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Lovely.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:50:11pm
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Old Liberal  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:50:24pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Sorry. I didn’t know how to broach the subject and used words that are often used.

I thought we all said we fucked up after Bass Reeves made his comment.

I guess I am not good at this.

I think maybe I need to take off. I’m feeling pretty bad about this again.

We all fuck up. You feel bad, that’s what owning it feels like. Feeling bad, and hanging in there and growing. Hang in there. and here.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:52:30pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Long story short Ski put the n word in Palin’s mouth when discussing Bristol’s ex the CMOH winner whose heroism she recently questioned. Bass took offense. A bunch of us myself included spoke up for Ski saying his intent wasn’t bad and he was just mocking Palin. I don’t think Ski meant harm but Bass is right about how ugly that word is.

Of course he meant no harm, other than maybe to Palin, but I can totally understand why support for use of the word, even from people who are not racist, is a problem for people who have dealt with racism all their lives. As much of the fault goes in trying to rationalize it being OK because a good guy said it as saying it.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:52:42pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Sorry. I didn’t know how to broach the subject and used words that are often used.

I thought we all said we fucked up after Bass Reeves made his comment.

I guess I am not good at this.

I think maybe I need to take off. I’m feeling pretty bad about this again.

Don’t go anywhere please.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:53:37pm

re: #99 ObserverArt

Sorry. I didn’t know how to broach the subject and used words that are often used.

I thought we all said we fucked up after Bass Reeves made his comment.

I guess I am not good at this.

I think maybe I need to take off. I’m feeling pretty bad about this again.

We all make mistakes, especially in this medium where we react and post quickly. We should be more forgiving when someone owns up to their errors and tries to make amends. I have been guilty of holding a grudge against a coworker for years because of a cruel remark he deliberately made once (not against me personally, but against someone I cared about — and he made it because he thought it was funny). It may have been better for both of us if I had forgiven him, instead of holding on to it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:53:57pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Long story short Ski put the n word in Palin’s mouth when discussing Bristol’s ex the CMOH winner whose heroism she recently questioned. Bass took offense. A bunch of us myself included spoke up for Ski saying his intent wasn’t bad and he was just mocking Palin. I don’t think Ski meant harm but Bass is right about how ugly that word is.

Ah. I can see how that might have been a dealbreaker for Bass. Too bad.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:54:04pm

re: #105 Old Liberal

Can you even IMAGINE what might happen to this country if Kavanaugh said “I did that. I have no excuse. I was selfish and brutal and violent and entitled. Because of my behavior, you have had to live with pain and fear. I am sincerely sorry. I am not that man today, and I will do everything in my power to change attitudes so other men don’t behave like that. We cannot accept this from anyone anymore.”
A guy can dream, can’t he? If he did this, he’d shake the foundation of this country. But he’s just another fucking entitled asshole coward.

I wouldn’t actually believe him if he said it. Would you? There’s no way to talk yourself into being qualified for the court after doing that. We have too many well-behaved men and women who are qualified.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:54:18pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Long story short Ski put the n word in Palin’s mouth when discussing Bristol’s ex the CMOH winner whose heroism she recently questioned. Bass took offense. A bunch of us myself included spoke up for Ski saying his intent wasn’t bad and he was just mocking Palin. I don’t think Ski meant harm but Bass is right about how ugly that word is.

When I am citing that particular word…

Ni*CLANG!* works pretty well. We all know exactly where that comes from.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:54:49pm

re: #111 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Of course he meant no harm, other than maybe to Palin, but I can totally understand why support for use of the word, even from people who are not racist, is a problem for people who have dealt with racism all their lives. As much of the fault goes in trying to rationalize it being OK because a good guy said it as saying it.

Absolutely and I feel I failed JR and BR in not understanding the latter point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:55:38pm

re: #110 Old Liberal

We all fuck up. You feel bad, that’s what owning it feels like. Feeling bad, and hanging in there and growing. Hang in there. and here.

Concur. Don’t go away.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:56:11pm

I’m 60% disappointment and 40% surprised that “Yeti pubes” is not trending on twitter.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:56:20pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Absolutely and I feel I failed JR and BR in not understanding the latter point.

Same here. I didn’t defend it, but I didn’t work to get him to delete the post either.

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wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:57:57pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Long story short Ski put the n word in Palin’s mouth when discussing Bristol’s ex the CMOH winner whose heroism she recently questioned. Bass took offense. A bunch of us myself included spoke up for Ski saying his intent wasn’t bad and he was just mocking Palin. I don’t think Ski meant harm but Bass is right about how ugly that word is.

And Bass was right that it was not the place of some of us to excuse Ski’s deed. I’m not going to see it as my place to judge anyone’s apology. Would be a repeat of me being inappropriate.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:57:59pm

re: #116 Scottish Dragon

When I am citing that particular word…

Ni*CLANG!* works pretty well. We all know exactly where that comes from.

Yes. I think it was late, and he was probably drinking - and almost certainly baked, which can lead to not being as careful as we should be. People should be forgiving, but it’s hard when you’ve been abused by people that that person reminded you of.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:58:34pm

re: #115 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I wouldn’t actually believe him if he said it. Would you? There’s no way to talk yourself into being qualified for the court after doing that. We have too many well-behaved men and women who are qualified.

I’d believe him, because he’d know in doing it that he was probably killing his chance to be on the Court.

I’m a believer in redemption*, but that requires confession and contrition.

*not in the biblical sense, but in terms of becoming a better human.

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lawhawk  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:58:34pm

Heh

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:58:39pm

re: #120 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Same here. I didn’t defend it, but I didn’t work to get him to delete the post either.

I was asleep when he said it but I saw the uproar in the morning. To his credit, he realized he fucked up but I understand why they feel the way they do completely now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:59:14pm

Btw, I’m about 100% sure that we’ll see Ski upset again at what he inadvertently did after reading this thread this evening. There was no thought of doubling-down like some people do.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:59:40pm

re: #100 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It seems like she experienced everything but penetration from her assailant. Feeling her body, pulling at her clothes, and covering her mouth. Everyone who isn’t a self-identified Conservative will feel physically ill reading this description.

What he did was outrageous and unforgivable - but she fortunately managed to escape. Legally, that wouldn’t be considered rape, would it ?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 12:59:58pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

And Bass was right that it was not the place of some of us to excuse Ski’s deed. I’m not going to see it as my place to judge anyone’s apology. Would be a repeat of me being inappropriate.

Yes, that’s what I got wrong. I don’t get to forgive someone for using that word. I’m not black.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:00:15pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

What he did was outrageous and unforgivable - but she fortunately managed to escape. Legally, that wouldn’t be considered rape, would it ?

Correct, but close enough in this situation, since no one is being prosecuted.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:04:10pm

Makes me glad that I thought about the Serena comic when that Aussie was insisting it wasn’t offensive. It wasn’t his place to say that nor mine.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:05:14pm

re: #123 Blind Frog Belly White

I’d believe him, because he’d know in doing it that he was probably killing his chance to be on the Court.

I’m a believer in redemption*, but that requires confession and contrition.

*not in the biblical sense, but in terms of becoming a better human.

I might believe him if the Conservatives in the Senate turned on him, or Trump pulled the nomination. Otherwise I’d assume it’s a lie to advance the agenda of enslaving women.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:05:16pm

re: #119 Dr. Matt

I’m 60% disappointment and 40% surprised that “Yeti pubes” is not trending on twitter.

Well, GDF can keep tweeting it and I’m sure it’ll start to trend. He’s really getting a kick out of that term. LOL.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:08:09pm

I’m still dealing with the Toad Peen and how I’ll never look at Mario the same again. Haven’t moved on to Yeti Pubes yet, still processing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:08:24pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

People are still insisting that wasn’t offensive, and they’re right as far as that it wasn’t exactly a Golly. Cultural differences were a factor. Anti-black racism isn’t considered offensive in Australia like it is here. Their black people were exterminated or put on reservations, and are in the position the Native Americans are here. We’ve seen how the right sees caricatures of native Americans here.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:10:28pm

It’s barely Tuesday morning and it feels like a week of news. Welcome to the Trump era.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:10:45pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:10:54pm

re: #133 BigPapa

I’m still dealing with the Toad Peen and how I’ll never look at Mario the same again. Haven’t moved on to Yeti Pubes yet, still processing.

I just feel bad for the Yeti being compared to Trump.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:11:43pm

re: #119 Dr. Matt

I’m 60% disappointment and 40% surprised that “Yeti pubes” is not trending on twitter.

Me, I’m 100% relieved……

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:13:08pm

A good rule of thumb is that if you’re not African-American, don’t use the n word, in any context. And that’s all I have to say about that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:13:51pm

Apparently DeSantis is in trouble with Trump for saying there really ARE only four lights…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:14:02pm

re: #139 Big Beautiful Door

A good rule of thumb is that if you’re not African-American, don’t use the n word, in any context. And that’s all I have to say about that.

I think we’ve picked up on that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:14:41pm

re: #139 Big Beautiful Door

A good rule of thumb is that if you’re not African-American, don’t use the n word, in any context. And that’s all I have to say about that.

Don’t even say it to say that someone else said it.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:16:02pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:16:10pm
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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:16:45pm

re: #110 Old Liberal

We all fuck up. You feel bad, that’s what owning it feels like. Feeling bad, and hanging in there and growing. Hang in there. and here.

I wasn’t directly involved with the matter (I only saw everything after the fact), but here’s my two cents:

I understand why and how TSG used the n-word about as how Sarah (or Bristol, for that matter) would lament how Obama presented Meyer his MOH, and I think that most, if not all, of the positive comments and updings about it were from people who know idiots like the Palins and could totally see her saying that or something like it. Hell, when I saw TSG’s infamous post, as a Southern-fried gentleman, I could totally relate to it, because I know people like them, some of them family.

*clears throat*

However, as a middle-aged white guy stepped in a bit of American history and popular culture, I know that the n-word, in any form, is not a word I can ever say or put in someone’s mouth, not even in a critical or pop culture context, because that word and its derivatives are so burdened and loaded with over 200-300 years of hate and ugliness. I get why some black people of all stripes, from the person on the street to artists like Chris Rock and Richard Pryor, use or have used the word in their works in attempts to take that hate and ugliness out of it, to depower it, but it’s nothing that I’ll ever be comfortable with saying.

Ever.

Back to Richard Pryor about the subject, even he stopped using it, as he related in Live from the Sunset Strip about his trip to Africa; when he said what he said, you could tell that it caught the audience by surprise and, when they finally got what he was saying, the applause was thunderous. I’ll let the man speak for himself:

One thing I got out of it was magic. I’d like to share it with you. I was leavin’, and I was sittin’ in the hotel… and a voice said to me. “Look around. What do you see?” And I said. “I see all colors of people doing everything.” And the voice said, “Do you see any n*****s?” And I said. “No.” And it say. “You know why? ‘Cause there aren’t any.” And it hit me like a shot, man. I started cryin’ and shit. I was sittin’ there and said… “Yeah. I’ve been here three weeks. I haven’t even said it. I haven’t even thought it.” And it made me say. “Oh. My God. I’ve been wrong. I’ve been wrong. I’ve got to regroup my shit.” I said, “I ain’t gonna never call another black man a n*****.” You know. ‘cause we never was no n*****s. That’s a word that’s used to describe our own wretchedness. And we perpetuate it now, ‘cause it’s dead. That word’s dead. We’re men and women. We come from the first people on the Earth. You know? The first people on the Earth were black people. ‘Cause anthropologists… white anthropologists… The white people go. “That could be true, you know.” Yeah. Dr. Leakey and them found people remains… five million years ago in Africa. You know them motherfuckers didn’t speak French. So black people, we the first people that had thought. We were the first ones to say. “Where the fuck am I? And how do you get to Detroit?” So you can take it for what it’s worth. I ain’t tryin’ to preach. I’m just talkin’ about my feelings about it. And I don’t want them hip white people calling me no n*****… or telling me n***** jokes. I don’t like it. I’m just tellin’ you it’s uncomfortable to me. I don’t like it when black people say it to me. I really don’t no more. It’s nothin’. It don’t mean nothin’. So I love you all, and you can take that with you. I guess you all say…

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:17:53pm

re: #137 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I just feel bad for the Yeti being compared to Trump.

Yeti should hire a lawyer and file suit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:17:54pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Apparently DeSantis is in trouble with Trump for saying there really ARE only four lights…

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I’d feel bad but nah.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:20:05pm

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:20:08pm

re: #145 TedStriker

I see that Charles re-enabled the filter for that word, which is just as well.

Thanks, Charles.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:20:15pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:21:40pm

re: #149 TedStriker

I see that Charles re-enabled the filter for that word, which is just as well.

Thanks, Charles.

I’m seeing it in your post unfiltered.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:22:18pm

re: #151 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Hrmmm…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:22:30pm

re: #149 TedStriker

I see that Charles re-enabled the filter for that word, which is just as well.

Thanks, Charles.

Maybe it’s only filtered if you’re not a signed in member.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:23:00pm

re: #152 TedStriker

Hrmmm…

I refreshed, and it was still not filtered. Considering the theme of this conversation, I’d delete it.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:23:33pm

OK I’m warming up to Yeti Pubes now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:23:41pm

re: #151 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m seeing it in your post unfiltered.

Same here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:24:03pm

re: #154 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I refreshed, and it was still not filtered. Considering the theme of this conversation, I’d delete it.

Concur.

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wrenchwench  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:24:20pm

re: #155 BigPapa

OK I’m warming up to Yeti Pubes now.

TMI.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:24:27pm

re: #144 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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So what’s this likely to do for DeSantis’ chances?
Improve them because he sounds more like a realist?
Or diminish them because he’s pissed off Dear Leader?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:25:25pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

TMI.

I cracked up at work, but kept the laugh quiet and brief.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:25:47pm

Yeti-P is my new rap name

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Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:25:47pm

re: #155 BigPapa

OK I’m warming up to Yeti Pubes now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:25:59pm

re: #159 Jay C

So what’s this likely to do for DeSantis’ chances?
Improve them because he sounds more like a realist?
Or diminish them because he’s pissed off Dear Leader?

Diminish, because cult.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:26:38pm

re: #159 Jay C

So what’s this likely to do for DeSantis’ chances?
Improve them because he sounds more like a realist?
Or diminish them because he’s pissed off Dear Leader?

Red Hats will jerk that knee and not vote for him.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:26:41pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Apparently DeSantis is in trouble with Trump for saying there really ARE only four lights…

Better cut a new suck-up video.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:28:43pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

Apparently DeSantis is in trouble with Trump for saying there really ARE only four lights…

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Its remarkable that we may see two African-American governors elected in the South this November. Now that’s progress!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:28:46pm

re: #163 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Diminish, because cult.

I don’t think he gains any votes outside the cult for not going along with an obvious lie, but I also think he’d have lost some votes outside the cult if he HAD gone along with it.

Within the cult, disloyalty will be punished.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:28:54pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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Bert and Ernie are not gay, I watched a lot of Sesame Street and distinctly remember them always looking at straight porn while jerking off

They also had the advantage of never having to look for an old sock.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:29:48pm

re: #154 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s Pryor’s own words and the context is valid.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:31:11pm

re: #168 Barefoot Grin


They also had the advantage of never having to look for an old sock.

You have Yeti Pube’d this thread.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:32:34pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:33:19pm

re: #169 TedStriker

It’s Pryor’s own words and the context is valid.

The presence of the unfiltered word is problematic, and I’m not the one to say what isn’t offensive.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:33:23pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:33:23pm
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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:33:36pm

re: #170 BigPapa

You have Yeti Pube’d this thread.

Yeah, now it’s starting to skeev me out a little.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:33:55pm

re: #173 MsJ

Linky.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:34:31pm

re: #173 MsJ

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Here comes the bus. Trump’s gonna dump him.

He’s out by Friday.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:35:13pm

re: #174 gocart mozart

Not surprised. But, as someone pointed out, why else would she also bring his name into it?

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:35:34pm

re: #174 gocart mozart

Mark Judge in letter obtained by WaPo says “I have no memory of this alleged incident” and defends Kavanaugh

Blackout drunk says what?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:36:17pm

re: #166 Big Beautiful Door

Its remarkable that we may see two African-American governors elected in the South this November. Now that’s progress!

Some cities tipped years ago, to the dismay of Southern Conservatives. There’s no reason States shouldn’t.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:36:25pm

re: #174 gocart mozart

Convenient — the man who admits he was a drunk who blacked out and who clearly does not want to testify under oath.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:37:18pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

Convenient — the man who admits he was a drunk who blacked out and who clearly does not want to testify under oath.

He’s also a loose cannon sexist asshole.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:37:52pm
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MsJ  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:39:04pm

re: #183 sagehen

I was just about to post that.

This fucking guy is a major asshole. (spit)

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:39:09pm

re: #177 makeitstop

Here comes the bus. Trump’s gonna dump him.

He’s out by Friday.

I hope we’re all prepared for the deluge of butthurt from the usual suspects. It’s going to be epic. The downfall of Kavanaugh will be wingnut world’s greatest case of persecution since HRC said ‘deplorables’.

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:39:14pm

re: #102 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s here, starting at comment 82:

littlegreenfootballs.com

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:39:42pm

re: #172 Blind Frog Belly White

The presence of the unfiltered word is problematic, and I’m not the one to say what isn’t offensive.

Since the filter isn’t working for everyone, I’ve edited it with the filtered text.

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gocart mozart  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:40:16pm
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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:40:39pm

re: #185 Sir John Barron

I hope we’re all prepared for the deluge of butthurt from the usual suspects. It’s going to be epic. The downfall of Kavanaugh will be wingnut world’s greatest case of persecution since HRC said ‘deplorables’.

I can live with that. Maybe I’ll end my week with a tall, cool glass of wingnut tears.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:41:13pm

re: #169 TedStriker

It’s Pryor’s own words and the context is valid.

You really, really, really, don’t get it, even in a thread about it not being OK.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:41:35pm

re: #183 sagehen

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He’d been great at playing prep school bully in a 80’s movie who bullies our public school hero but later freaks out when he tastes his own blood.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:41:46pm

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Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:41:52pm

Brett Kavanaugh is basically an older version of Donnie Junior.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:43:01pm

re: #188 gocart mozart

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That’s Brit Humes’ daughter but remember people FNC and the President’s men are outsiders.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:43:10pm

re: #190 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You really, really, really, don’t get it, even in a thread about it not being OK.

Read my #187, then refresh and look at my OP again.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:43:17pm

re: #193 Dr. Matt

Brett Kavanaugh is basically an older version of Donnie Junior.

Worse. He hides it better.

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:45:34pm

What a day.

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SteelPH  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:47:34pm

re: #197 makeitstop

This is why I train myself not to think about the things people say.
//

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Dr. Matt  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:48:15pm

The Kavanaugh vote has officially been canceled

Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley has officially canceled a committee vote on Brett Kavaunagh’s Supreme Court nomination. The vote was scheduled for Thursday.
cnn.com

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:49:41pm

Catching up on the rest of the news I now have “Yeti Pubes” in my vocabulary and every time I think the words I hear Chewbacca in my head. And don’t even get me started on the Toad reference or i might yack.

It was almost nice to be blissfully unaware of what was happening while I was on vacation.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:50:42pm

re: #195 TedStriker

To be sure, is Pryor’s quote now showing filtered for everyone?

It’s a historical quote, to be sure, but as I said myself and was reminded again, that word is not mine to say, even in a quote.

Period.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:51:54pm

THE GOOD NEWS: Kavanaugh is now toast
THE BAD NEWS: Trump’s next nominee will be Jeanine Pirro
//////

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:52:15pm

re: #198 SteelPH

This is why I train myself not to think about the things people say.
//

This is smart.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:52:27pm

re: #168 Barefoot Grin

Bert and Ernie are not gay, I watched a lot of Sesame Street and distinctly remember them always looking at straight porn while jerking off

They also had the advantage of never having to look for an old sock.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:53:09pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

THE GOOD NEWS: Kavanaugh is now toast
THE BAD NEWS: Trump’s next nominee will be Jeanine Pirro
//////

I’m thinking Amy Bartlett and they will try to smear any critic of her as sexist ie the Palin VP pick or Tom Hardimann. It won’t be Jeanne.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:53:48pm

But yeah I think Kavanaugh is Kavandone.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:55:07pm

Kava-Hell Naw

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:55:17pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

THE GOOD NEWS: Kavanaugh is now toast
THE BAD NEWS: Trump’s next nominee will be Jeanine Pirro
//////

I’d actually watch those hearings. Kamala Harris would have her foaming at the mouth inside of two minutes.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:55:33pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:56:03pm

re: #139 Big Beautiful Door

A good rule of thumb is that if you’re not African-American, don’t use the n word, in any context. And that’s all I have to say about that.

Unless you are a teacher reading aloud from “Huckleberry Finn” and then it’s a teachable moment, not something that you read and let pass without discussion.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:56:40pm

Welp… it looks like I completely missed whatever happened around the n word. Ergh. I thought we could do without the bad word filter, but I’m re-enabling it now.

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MsJ  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:56:43pm
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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:56:52pm

Whoops

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:57:26pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Welp… it looks like I completely missed whatever happened around the n word. Ergh. I thought we could do without the bad word filter, but I’m re-enabling it now.

Good idea.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:58:01pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Welp… it looks like I completely missed whatever happened around the n word. Ergh. I thought we could do without the bad word filter, but I’m re-enabling it now.

You mean you don’t stay up 24/7 and read all the silly shit we all post? Another illusion shattered.
/////////////////////

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:58:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:58:09pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

But yeah I think Kavanaugh is Kavandone.

I’m not at all sanguine, just because he’s a Republican and the GOP is desperate to fill this seat before the election. We may be at a point were the optics don’t matter to them because they know they’re going to lose the House and possibly Senate anyway, so they might as well cement a 5-4 conservative SCOTUS majority.

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BigPapa  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:58:40pm

OK, so this is my last Yeti-P of the day. Because I love this. But it’s foul. Which makes me love it more. You’ve been warned. This may also ruin a few Christmas movies for you.

YOU’VE BEEN WARNED

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danarchy  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:59:00pm

re: #199 Dr. Matt

The Kavanaugh vote has officially been canceled

Since they had scheduled hearings for next monday wasn’t it a forgone conclusion that Thursday’s vote would be cancelled?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:59:32pm

re: #217 goddamnedfrank

I’m not at all sanguine, just because he’s a Republican and the GOP is desperate to install fill this seat before the election. We may be at a point were the optics don’t matter to them because they know they’re going to lose the House and possibly Senate anyway, so they might as well cement a 5-4 conservative SCOTUS majority.

May be right.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 1:59:33pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:00:51pm

re: #219 danarchy

Since they had scheduled hearings for next monday wasn’t it a forgone conclusion that Thursday’s vote would be cancelled?

Not with Republicans. They might have thrown the election to put him on the court this week. Crippling the country with a Supreme Court that acts as a ministry of virtue and vice is their end-game.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:02:05pm
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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:02:20pm

re: #219 danarchy

Since they had scheduled hearings for next monday wasn’t it a forgone conclusion that Thursday’s vote would be cancelled?

I think it means they don’t intend to re-schedule it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:02:47pm

re: #223 jaunte

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Kavanaugh doesn’t either. But nice try guys.

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:03:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:03:56pm
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CongoJack  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:04:27pm

re: #210 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Unless you are a teacher reading aloud from “Huckleberry Finn” and then it’s a teachable moment, not something that you read and let pass without discussion.

I missed the convo about the n word as well… I had to go to lunch sometime…

My wife reads Huckleberry Finn to her class of kiddos and she just skips right over the word. We’ve had a conversation about it (the word) as her father is a bit…. ugh… and uses it every so often when he is drunk (more often than not). We chastise him when he says it - hes gotten better - but the word was never used in my house as a kid and the 1st time I heard it I was 17 at my friends house (who yes… is white) and I nearly lost my shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:05:23pm

re: #224 makeitstop

I think it means they don’t intend to re-schedule it.

Yeah, I’m not sure. It doesn’t seem to be lighting up Twitter as I’d expect it to.

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TedStriker  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:06:52pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Welp… it looks like I completely missed whatever happened around the n word. Ergh. I thought we could do without the bad word filter, but I’m re-enabling it now.

Sorry, boss, I thought you had already done so when I included the Pryor quote initially. That leaves a question for me: if you didn’t already have it enabled (and more than one lizard said they could see the words), how in the hell did I see it filtered? I’m in a house full of adults, so I don’t have any NetNanny stuff running; does Chrome do this now?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:07:46pm

re: #223 jaunte

Oh good glad we can get Planet Infowars take on this.

Yeah, and how come Kavanaugh’s accuser didn’t bother to get witnesses to her assault? Women, right guys? ////

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:07:46pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:08:18pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

Welp… it looks like I completely missed whatever happened around the n word. Ergh. I thought we could do without the bad word filter, but I’m re-enabling it now.

I was wondering why you had not really said anything.

As far as Kavanaugh. The Republicans actually said they were cancelling the committee vote late yesterday afternoon. I made a comment about it.

The reason was they knew they were going to have another hearing to allow both parties to be questioned. I guess once they knew Monday was the new hearing, they knew the vote was dead.

Kavanaugh is still a candidate. Wounded, yes. Bleeding actually. But still alive.

And there is question if the professor will make the hearing. It was mentioned earlier they did Monday quickly without contacting both parties to see if they were available. The Republicans may hope she doesn’t show up.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:08:24pm

re: #223 jaunte

48K followers. Infowars was prepared for their ban. I wonder how many backup accounts they have.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:09:40pm

re: #228 CongoJack

I missed the convo about the n word as well… I had to go to lunch sometime…

My wife reads Huckleberry Finn to her class of kiddos and she just skips right over the word. We’ve had a conversation about it (the word) as her father is a bit…. ugh… and uses it every so often when he is drunk (more often than not). We chastise him when he says it - hes gotten better - but the word was never used in my house as a kid and the 1st time I heard it I was 17 at my friends house (who yes… is white) and I nearly lost my shit.

It was never used in my house, but I certainly read it in books probably by 5th grade. I think it’s important for kids to understand the context and the historical times and how language changes.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:09:57pm

re: #226 jaunte

Can’t overestimate Kav’s connection to Starr probe as a reason DJT nominated him.

Or you can’t underestimate it, or something. The connection is probably important, another FU from DJT to the Clintons.

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ObserverArt  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:10:29pm

re: #224 makeitstop

I think it means they don’t intend to re-schedule it.

Then there would be no reason to have the hearing Monday. It is still on.

I think he is still alive. No one is reporting that he will not be a Supreme Court Judge nominee.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:11:36pm

re: #174 gocart mozart

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:12:40pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:13:19pm

re: #185 Sir John Barron

I hope we’re all prepared for the deluge of butthurt from the usual suspects. It’s going to be epic. The downfall of Kavanaugh will be wingnut world’s greatest case of persecution since HRC said ‘deplorables’.

Looking forward to the sweet tears of wingnut outrage.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:17:15pm

re: #226 jaunte

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He’s not a good person. Just because people say he is don’t make it so.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:17:57pm

re: #239 Blind Frog Belly White

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So true

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:19:09pm

re: #237 ObserverArt

Then there would be no reason to have the hearing Monday. It is still on.

I think he is still alive. No one is reporting that he will not be a Supreme Court Judge nominee.

An awful lot can happen between now and Monday.

I saw a tweet last night quoting a WH aide as saying that Trump wasn’t heavily invested in Kavanaugh, and that if he became too much of a story they’d dump him and ‘nominate someone else within 20 minutes.’

Saw a story this morning that said McConnell was lukewarm to Kavanaugh (or words to that effect).

Maybe they mean nothing. Or they could be bracing themselves for a hard landing.

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calochortus  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:19:14pm

I don’t think Ford has agreed to go to Washington to testify yet. It’s a bit early for victory laps.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:20:57pm

re: #238 Big Beautiful Door

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Mark Judge doesn’t want to testify because he’s reluctant to face questions about the inspiration for the Bart O’Kavanaugh character in one of his books and his yearbook quote that said “Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs.”

washingtonpost.com

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:21:20pm

re: #244 calochortus

I don’t think Ford has agreed to go to Washington to testify yet. It’s a bit early for victory laps.

That may be why the whole thing is in a holding pattern. If she says she’ll be there, the chances of Kav being dumped will go up dramatically, IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:21:48pm

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

Mark Judge doesn’t want to testify because he’s reluctant to face questions about the inspiration for the Bart O’Kavanaugh character in one of his books and his yearbook quote that said “Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs.”

washingtonpost.com

Bart O’Kavanaugh……I can’t even.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:24:08pm

If any of you write a book about LGF, please don’t make my fictional character’s name Happiest Fighter.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:24:22pm

re: #238 Big Beautiful Door

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I once got so drunk that I woke up the next day in the bathroom. Based on what people told me, it was close to two hours between my last memory and when I was left in the restroom. His not remembering it doesn’t mean anything.

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Jay C  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:24:33pm

re: #240 Big Beautiful Door

Looking forward to the sweet tears of wingnut outrage.

I wouldn’t count those wingnut tears til they start falling: despite the setback in what the GOP was counting on to be a quick triumphant process, Kavanaugh is still not out of contention, and - regardless of any other factors - the GOP are still likely to push his nomination to a vote.

But if I’m wrong, still a win….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:24:51pm

re: #241 HappyWarrior

He’s not a good person. Just because people say he is don’t make it so.

I made a joke the other day, that Jeffrey Dahmer could probably have found 65 classmates to write a letter saying he’d never killed and eaten THEM. But the larger point is that we base our judgments of people on limited interactions. I knew people on the Bowsite who invited me to hunt with them, to come and stay in their houses, eat at their tables. People who were very generous to those they saw as being in need.

Friendly, funny, warm, generous people who say and believe terrible things.

Nazi Germany was full of Friendly, funny, warm, generous people who turned a blind eye to the most ruthlessly efficient genocide in human history.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:25:33pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:25:34pm

re: #245 goddamnedfrank

Mark Judge doesn’t want to testify because he’s reluctant to face questions about the inspiration for the Bart O’Kavanaugh character in one of his books and his yearbook quote that said “Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs.”

washingtonpost.com

A respectable school would never allow a statement like that in their yearbook.

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Belafon  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:25:38pm

re: #250 Jay C

I wouldn’t count those wingnut tears til they start falling: despite the setback in what the GOP was counting on to be a quick triumphant process, Kavanaugh is still not out of contention, and - regardless of any other factors - the GOP are still likely to push his nomination to a vote.

But if I’m wrong, still a win….

Yeah, all I read the cancellation as is they’re not going to consider a vote until after testimony. It can still go on.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:26:01pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

I was wondering why you had not really said anything.

As far as Kavanaugh. The Republicans actually said they were cancelling the committee vote late yesterday afternoon. I made a comment about it.

The reason was they knew they were going to have another hearing to allow both parties to be questioned. I guess once they knew Monday was the new hearing, they knew the vote was dead.

Kavanaugh is still a candidate. Wounded, yes. Bleeding actually. But still alive.

And there is question if the professor will make the hearing. It was mentioned earlier they did Monday quickly without contacting both parties to see if they were available. The Republicans may hope she doesn’t show up.

Grassley said earlier today they have sent her emails and haven’t gotten a response.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:26:21pm

re: #244 calochortus

I don’t think Ford has agreed to go to Washington to testify yet. It’s a bit early for victory laps.

In her shoes, I’d be reluctant. I would not want to be “Anita Hill’ed”

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makeitstop  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:27:31pm

re: #256 Blind Frog Belly White

In her shoes, I’d be reluctant. I would not want to be “Anita Hill’ed”

I wouldn’t blame her in the least if she declined. Who knows what kinds of threats she’s already getting, after being doxxed yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:27:45pm

re: #249 Belafon

I once got so drunk that I woke up the next day in the bathroom. Based on what people told me, it was close to two hours between my last memory and when I was left in the restroom. His not remembering it doesn’t mean anything.

And when you’re immature like that, you drink like an idiot. It’s very possible he and Judge did black out but that’s not absolving.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:27:56pm

re: #243 makeitstop

An awful lot can happen between now and Monday.

I saw a tweet last night quoting a WH aide as saying that Trump wasn’t heavily invested in Kavanaugh, and that if he became too much of a story they’d dump him and ‘nominate someone else within 20 minutes.’

Saw a story this morning that said McConnell was lukewarm to Kavanaugh (or words to that effect).

Maybe they mean nothing. Or they could be bracing themselves for a hard landing.

Trump will toss anyone under a bus who is no longer useful to him.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:29:29pm

re: #250 Jay C

I wouldn’t count those wingnut tears til they start falling: despite the setback in what the GOP was counting on to be a quick triumphant process, Kavanaugh is still not out of contention, and - regardless of any other factors - the GOP are still likely to push his nomination to a vote.

But if I’m wrong, still a win….

I said Sunday I thought it was about 50/50. That still seems about right to me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:29:34pm

PO🍄US

OK, I finally broke down and googled ‘mario toadstool’ to see what all this nonsense is about.

Damn it. How in the hell am I ever going to get that out of my head now?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:31:14pm

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

PO🍄US

OK, I finally broke down and googled ‘mario toadstool’ to see what all this nonsense is about.

Damn it. How in the hell am I ever going to get that out of my head now?

Booze lots and lots of it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:32:05pm

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

PO🍄US

OK, I finally broke down and googled ‘mario toadstool’ to see what all this nonsense is about.

Damn it. How in the hell am I ever going to get that out of my head now?

This is not the first time that the shape of a Presidential phallus has, shall we say, come up. Back during the Paula Jones lawsuit, she reportedly claimed she could reveal incriminating details about Bill Clinton’s junk, leading to speculation that he suffered from Peyronie’s disease.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:33:10pm

re: #258 HappyWarrior

And when you’re immature like that, you drink like an idiot. It’s very possible he and Judge did black out but that’s not absolving.

I find it really hard to believe that he wasn’t told about what happened by others at the party. They just all agreed to cover it up, and based on the the stories of other women who attended those parties with Kavanaugh’s GP clique, this wasn’t anything close to an isolated incident. He and his friends all know that they got away with absolutely appalling shit when they were younger as a result of race and class privilege but their entire careers and future depend on retconning it away.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:34:28pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

I find it really hard to believe that he wasn’t told about what happened by others at the party. They just all agreed to cover it up, and based on the the stories of other women who attended those parties with Kavanaugh’s GP clique, this wasn’t anything close to an isolated incident. He and his friends all know that they got away with absolutely appalling shit when they were younger as a result of race and class privilege but their entire careers and future depend on retconning it away.

Right. These guys just strike me as a bunch of spoiled brats who got everything handed to them.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:36:57pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

I find it really hard to believe that he wasn’t told about what happened by others at the party. They just all agreed to cover it up, and based on the the stories of other women who attended those parties with Kavanaugh’s GP clique, this wasn’t anything close to an isolated incident. He and his friends all know that they got away with absolutely appalling shit when they were younger as a result of race and class privilege but their entire careers and future depend on retconning it away.

My read of it is that only 3 people would have known it happened - Ford, Kavanaugh, and Judge. Ford might never have told anyone, till 2002. Kavanaugh and Judge might not have said anything either. This sort of sexual assault thrives on the victim being too ashamed to tell.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:36:59pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

This is not the first time that the shape of a Presidential phallus has, shall we say, come up. Back during the Paula Jones lawsuit, she reportedly claimed she could reveal incriminating details about Bill Clinton’s junk, leading to speculation that he suffered from Peyronie’s disease.

It would explain substituting a cigar for a penis when having inappropriate contact with an intern.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:37:22pm

re: #263 Blind Frog Belly White

This is not the first time that the shape of a Presidential phallus has, shall we say, come up. Back during the Paula Jones lawsuit, she reportedly claimed she could reveal incriminating details about Bill Clinton’s junk, leading to speculation that he suffered from Peyronie’s disease.

There’s medicine for that now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:38:28pm

re: #268 Barefoot Grin

There’s medicine for that now.

Yeah. Imagine my surprise when the second time I ever heard of Peyronie’s disease was in a TV commercial.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:39:06pm

re: #267 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It would explain substituting a cigar for a penis when having inappropriate contact with an intern.

Pretty sure he didn’t use a cigar when she blew him, though.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:39:12pm

re: #269 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. Imagine my surprise when the second time I ever heard of Peyronie’s disease was in a TV commercial.

I haven’t seen a TV commercial in about 10 years, so I have no idea what’s out there.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:40:04pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

Pretty sure he didn’t use a cigar when she blew him, though.

Probably not. I wonder if actual sex was off the table for “ethical reasons” of some sort.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:40:09pm

When I was at the University of Michigan law school in the late seventies, we had an entre clique of these guys called the TCAs, which stood for either Tomorrow’s Corporate Attorneys or the Tight Clique of Assholes. They worked hard to live up to the latter, especially when it came to women.. Kavanaugh would have been right at home, except that he would definitely have felt that they were socially a bit below him and pissed that he had to come West for law school

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:40:41pm

re: #256 Blind Frog Belly White

In her shoes, I’d be reluctant. I would not want to be “Anita Hill’ed”

That ship has sailed.

Whatever awful things will be said to her and about her, choosing not to testify won’t make it any better. It might even make it worse.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:41:27pm

re: #274 sagehen

That ship has sailed.

Whatever awful things will be said to her and about her, choosing not to testify won’t make it any better. It might even make it worse.

I think she’s intelligent and successful, and will stand up to these wretched men.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:41:32pm

re: #273 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

When I was at the University of Michigan law school in the late seventies, we had an entre clique of these guys called the TCAs, which stood for either Tomorrow’s Corporate Attorneys or the Tight Clique of Assholes. They worked hard to live up to the latter, especially when it came to women.. Kavanaugh would have been right at home, except that he would feel that they were socially a bit below him.

I know that kind of crowd too well observing from afar.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:42:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:43:01pm

re: #266 Blind Frog Belly White

My read of it is that only 3 people would have known it happened - Ford, Kavanaugh, and Judge. Ford might never have told anyone, till 2002. Kavanaugh and Judge might not have said anything either. This sort of sexual assault thrives on the victim being too ashamed to tell.

That depends on others at the party not noticing them dragging her into the room, turning the music up, her running out, putting shit together and gossiping based on known patterns of behavior like teenagers do. A stretch, to say the least.

Of course her memory is the most clear because it was crystalized and frozen in amber by the sheer trauma of the event, but I am goddamned certain that Kavanaugh, at the very least, has in his darkest moments grave personal doubts about how he conducted himself back then. The real problem is that those doubts about his past behavior and maturity do not inform the person he is today, the man who still believes in controlling women’s bodies against their will.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:43:39pm

re: #274 sagehen

That ship has sailed.

Whatever awful things will be said to her and about her, choosing not to testify won’t make it any better. It might even make it worse.

I meant specifically sitting in front of a panel of old men being slutshamed on national television. Everything else, yeah - that’s moved at the speed of the internet. The destruction of her reputation compressed into a much shorter time than Anita Hill’s.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:44:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:45:25pm

re: #277 Scottish Dragon

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Falsely? Says you.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:45:46pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

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I hate you for beating me to this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:46:58pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

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Dude! Brilliant.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:47:37pm

re: #272 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Probably not. I wonder if actual sex was off the table for “ethical reasons” of some sort.

Plausible deniability? Being able to say he didn’t have sex with her because it wasn’t intercourse?

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jaunte  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:48:36pm

Something, something, Handmaid’s Tale.

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gocart mozart  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:48:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:50:08pm

re: #286 jaunte

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Something, something, Handmaid’s Tale.

Oh. Yeah make your female staffers look like douchebags while you get to slither and drink whiskey and pat yourself on the back.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:50:10pm

re: #285 Blind Frog Belly White

Plausible deniability? Being able to say he didn’t have sex with her because it wasn’t intercourse?

I do remember him saying that. Cheaters can be pretty weird.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:51:02pm

re: #287 gocart mozart

… Anita Hill falsely accused Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment…

“Vass you dere?”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:51:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:51:23pm

re: #287 gocart mozart

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Erick Erickson isn’t much of a thinker either. Sometimes he accidentally gets it right and then he reminds us again that he’s the man who called Souter a goat fucking child molester.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:51:31pm

re: #289 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I do remember him saying that. Cheaters can be pretty weird.

Self-justification is a harsh mistress.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:52:37pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Erick Erickson isn’t much of a thinker either. Sometimes he accidentally gets it right and then he reminds us again that he’s the man who called Souter a goat fucking child molester.

His lack of intellectual capacity means he has to block a lot of people on Twitter. The man cannot defend his beliefs.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:53:17pm

re: #294 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

His lack of intellectual capacity means he has to block a lot of people on Twitter. The man cannot defend his beliefs.

Remember when he was leaving politics to become a minister?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:53:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:55:23pm

re: #296 Stanley Sea

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Yay good American Twitter Grandpa is back! I count Harry Leslie Smith as British Twitter Grandpa. :)

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plansbandc  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:58:52pm

Mr. Bubz theme song!

Mr Bubz theme

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 2:59:32pm

re: #285 Blind Frog Belly White

Plausible deniability? Being able to say he didn’t have sex with her because it wasn’t intercourse?

More likely to avoid the massive political and legal complication of a pregnancy. Otherwise he wasn’t planning on getting caught. Also, men who engage in that shit to their younger employees aren’t generally looking for soul mates, they largely get off on the power differential, on the physical expression of their own importance by receiving pleasure without having to give it.

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:03:13pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

I did click the “report” button on the original post.

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Scout  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:04:09pm

re: #120 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Same here. I didn’t defend it, but I didn’t work to get him to delete the post either.

To my eternal shame (and I mean that seriously) I made the conscious decision to sit it out.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:13:13pm

re: #302 Scout

To my eternal shame (and I mean that seriously) I made the conscious decision to sit it out.

Most people avoid conflict.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:26:23pm

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Remember when he was leaving politics to become a minister?

Nope, and it sounds like the same line of work. Lying to RWNJs to advance himself.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:31:12pm

re: #302 Scout

To my eternal shame (and I mean that seriously) I made the conscious decision to sit it out.

The majority of us did. Privilege. Ingrained supremecy. Fail. I’m very upset & thinking.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:31:41pm

re: #303 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Most people avoid conflict.

Horrible excuse

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 18, 2018 • 3:34:37pm

re: #306 Stanley Sea

Horrible excuse

It’s not an excuse. It’s a fact.
It’s also what the radicalized-right counts on as they walk all over America.

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John Hughes  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:37:11am

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

“When we are defending immensely wealthy countries and they’re not paying for the defense to the United States, they are only taking advantage of us,”

The idiot still seems to think that defence spending by NATO countries goes to the US.

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John Hughes  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:43:18am

re: #71 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Women who work on rape teams disgust me even more than the men, because they betray other women.

Hey, come on, that’s a bit strong, accusing Carrie Severino of “working on a rape team” just because she’s supporting Kavanugh….

Wait, am I confusing two different stories?


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