Hozier - Nina Cried Power Ft. Mavis Staples

It’s not the wakin’, it’s the risin’
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I’m very proud to present the video for ‘Nina Cried Power’, directed by Jon Hozier-Byrne and Patrick Ryan.

This song was intended as a thank you note to the spirit and legacy of protest; to the artists who imbued their work with the vigour of dissent, and a reflection on the importance of that tradition in the context of the rights, and lives, we enjoy today. My hope for this video is much the same.

Ireland has undergone a socio-cultural sea change, the results of which will benefit generations to come. We are witness to a new Ireland waking to the consciousness of itself; a kinder, more inclusive nation. This video is an attempt to acknowledge just a handful of those who have fought for this new Ireland, and whose work continues to inspire me.

Thank you to Christina Noble, for showing the limitlessness of human kindness, and its ability to achieve the seemingly impossible.

Thank you to Bernadette McAliskey and Eamon McCann, who fought for the bitterly-resisted equal right to vote, and who bore witness to atrocity and would not be silenced.

Thank you to Joe Caslin, who literally coated Dublin city itself with reflections on our capacity for compassion as a people.

Thank you to Saoirse Long, whose honesty revealed not only our own failures as a people, but laid bare the true face of what barred the way of progress for women’s reproductive rights.

Thank you to Panti Bliss, who remains a leading voice advocating for inclusion, and a standard-bearer for the new Ireland we are watching unfold.

Thank you to Victoria Chimera for fighting tirelessly for equal opportunities in education.

Thank you to Anna Cosgrave, who provided real leadership to my generation, and brought new widespread visibility to the issue of reproductive rights.

Thank you to Simone George for her indelible spirit, and for fighting injustice in its many forms.

Thank you to Grace Dyas whose decisions in work and life give to us an example of bravery and conscience.

Thank you to Sinéad Burke for pushing tirelessly for inclusivity in her industry and beyond.

Thank you to Maria Walsh for using her platform to promote gender equality, and the right for everyone to love who they love.

Thank you to Colm O’Gorman, for his unwavering dedication to human rights and his fearless speaking of truth to power.

Thank you to Ellie Kisyombe for reminding us of the meaning of home.

Thank you to Stephen Rea for the work he does both for UNICEF, and for Ireland itself.

Thank you to Sam Blanckensee for their important work on gender recognition legislation.

Thank you to Florence Adebambo and Aaron Edo for reminding us of the bright future that awaits those who have joined us from afar, and how that future needs to be fought for.

Thank you to Blessings Moyo and Lucky Khambule for reminding us how much further we have to go, and how we must strive to do better.

Thank you to Mavis Staples, for giving to the world a timeless example of how worthwhile the raising of one’s voice is, in song and in protest.

Thank you to you all for your work, for joining us on set and allowing us to play you the song for the first time. You are all truly inspirational figures, and this video is for you.

Find out more about the Activists featured in the Nina Cried Power video hozier.lnk.to

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423 comments

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:00:24pm

CL’d!!

Kavanaugh was only guilty of heavy pettin’,

Which turned up in Drump’s ‘stensive vettin’.

“The most extreme vetting, believe me!” DJT

“No president has ever consulted more widely, or talked with more people from more backgrounds, to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.” Brett Kavanaugh

(cough)

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:01:36pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:02:47pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:03:59pm

I wonder if conservatives will concede global warming when great whites show up off of Baffin Is.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:05:03pm

Totally the comment of someone keeping an open mind and treating the allegations made seriously…

I’d say that Collins and Murkowski should be asked aloud if they think their male colleagues being dismissive of this woman’s allegations is acceptable to them…but I already know Collins spent part of yesterday running from reporters at the airport.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:06:59pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:11:50pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

She was great in Ash vs. Evil Dead. Shame it ended after only 3 short seasons. I miss the 24 episode season.

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Interesting Times  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:14:45pm

Worthless little coward, totally living up to his last name:

At least he’s getting righteously excoriated in the replies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:16:13pm

re: #7 Single-handed sailor

Just curious: Do you display the Dominion of Canada flag to differentiate yourself from other Canadians here, or are you one of the supporters of the old flag, or am I sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong?

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:24:19pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

Just curious: Do you display the Dominion of Canada flag to differentiate yourself from other Canadians here, or are you one of the supporters of the old flag, or am I sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong?

I’ve always loved the old Commonwealth Red Ensign flags.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:27:38pm

I got CL, but I need to post this pic of trump stolen from Stormy…

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:28:51pm

re: #8 Interesting Times

Worthless little coward, totally living up to his last name:

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At least he’s getting righteously excoriated in the replies.

Josh Marshall has been saying for hours that this seems to have been the plan the Senate GOP decided upon today: Give the fence-sitters cover by putting the onus on Prof. Ford to attend the hearing. If she accepts, then they have already stacked the deck by preventing any witnesses other than the accused and the victim, turning it into a “he-said, she-said” that they can wave away. If she refuses, they shrug their shoulders and say “We tried” before ramming through the vote.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:31:52pm

Please don’t give us an Anita Hill redux where the victim becomes the accuded.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:34:15pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Please don’t give us an Anita Hill redux where the victim becomes the accuded.

It wouldn’t even be a redux of Anita Hill. With Hill, there was an FBI investigation, 3 days of hearings, 22 witnesses, and the GOP at least tried to pretend that they gave a damn.

Here? No FBI investigation, 2 witnesses, and the GOP are already saying they’re doing this shit just to humor the rubes because they’ve already decided to confirm Kavanaugh despite what Prof. Ford says.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:36:18pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

It wouldn’t even be a redux of Anita Hill. With Hill, there was an FBI investigation, 3 days of hearings, 22 witnesses, and the GOP at least tried to pretend that they gave a damn.

Here? No FBI investigation, 2 witnesses, and the GOP are already saying they’re doing this shit just to humor the rubes because they’ve already decided to confirm Kavanaugh despite what Prof. Ford says.

You see correct. At least Kavanaugh won’t ban bbq or not show the flag in a movie.//

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:38:04pm

At the very least this is gross negligence manslaughter. There’s no excuse for driving detainees into floodwaters.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:39:20pm

People dying from flood waters after the storm = Trump won’t think Florence killed them.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:39:52pm

By the way, Flake and Corker are now both on record saying Prof. Ford either shows up Monday or they’re dropping their opposition to moving to a full vote.

No word from Murkowski, but Collins proposed earlier today that counsel for both sides be allowed to question the other before Senators ask their own questions. Which means “Allow this guy’s paid thug to beat up on the witness so we can keep our hands clean.”

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:42:39pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

Just curious: Do you display the Dominion of Canada flag to differentiate yourself from other Canadians here, or are you one of the supporters of the old flag, or am I sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong?

We left Canada in 1960. Maple leaf came in 65?

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:43:24pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Please don’t give us an Anita Hill redux where the victim becomes the accused.

I know you understand how much they are banking on this nom going through before the mid-terms.

They will be out for blood and slut-shaming to the maximum extent possible. On the one hand, I pity Dr. Ford. On the other hand, I don’t think the R’s understand how a well-trained clinical psychologist will calmly turn their questions into rebuttal questions that make them look like total frauds.

It could be a popcorn-chomping exposure of Republican hypocrisy and male privilege writ large. This isn’t Anita Hill, a trained lawyer badgered by other trained lawyers (although I think most of us found her testimony compelling).

This is a mental health professional who knows why and how these questions are being asked and can punch them square in the mouth.

Well, that’s my hope.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:43:37pm

I’ll always believe in innocent until proven guilty but I will never accept the badgering and presumed wrong doing of a victim. Only rape victims get this skepticism. Burglary victims? Nope. Robbery?
Assault & Battery? Nope. The pathetic thing is it’s about the fact they like Kavanaugh and they’ve already made up their minds.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:44:40pm

re: #20 austin_blue

I know you understand how much they are banking on this nom going through before the mid-terms.

They will be out for blood and slut-shaming to the maximum extent possible. On the one hand, I pity Dr. Ford. On the other hand, I don’t think the R’s understand how a well-trained clinical psychologist will calmly turn their questions into rebuttal questions that make them look like total frauds.

It could be a popcorn-chomping exposure of Republican hypocrisy and male privilege writ large. This isn’t Anita Hill, a trained lawyer badgered by other trained lawyers (although I think most of us found her testimony compelling).

This is a mental health professional who knows why and how these questions are being asked and can punch them square in the mouth.

Well, that’s my hope.

I hope so. Her being a mental health pro gives me hope.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:47:21pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

I’ll always believe in innocent until proven guilty but I will never accept the badgering and presumed wrong doing of a victim. Only rape victims get this skepticism. Burglary victims? Nope. Robbery?
Assault & Battery? Nope. The pathetic thing is it’s about the fact they like Kavanaugh and they’ve already made up their minds.

Oh, I doubt they all like Brett Kavanaugh. I suspect a few of them at best think of him as a nice guy and a few think he’s a smarmy prick. Who they like is Judge Kavanaugh, the reliable fifth vote for dismantling all those social policies they hate and protecting the president who is giving them what they want even if they hate him personally.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:50:52pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Oh, I doubt they all like Brett Kavanaugh. I suspect a few of them at best think of him as a nice guy and a few think he’s a smarmy prick. Who they like is Judge Kavanaugh, the reliable fifth vote for dismantling all those social policies they hate and protecting the president who is giving them what they want even if they hate him personally.

True true. To me Kavanaugh is every Republican I’ve seen that has two standards, for him and his and everyone else. I don’t doubt that Judge Kavanaugh would want to sentence a juvenile especially one of color to a long sentence for the very crimes he stands accused of.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:53:48pm

I’m waiting for an older Republican namely Grassley or Hatch to say he could be their son and the ensuing silence from people who flipped over Obama & Martin.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 9:58:22pm

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

At the very least this is gross negligence manslaughter. There’s no excuse for driving detainees into floodwaters.

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How very Ted Kennedy of them.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:01:19pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Oh, I doubt they all like Brett Kavanaugh. I suspect a few of them at best think of him as a nice guy and a few think he’s a smarmy prick. Who they like is Judge Kavanaugh, the reliable fifth vote for dismantling all those social policies they hate and protecting the president who is giving them what they want even if they hate him personally.

And any other name they pull off the Federalist Society list is an equally reliable vote on all the same issues.

Also, Kavanaugh wasn’t on the FS list, he was Don McGahn’s pick. Presumably because the FS does their due diligence and doesn’t put forward blackout drunk attempted rapists with a gambling problem.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:02:23pm

re: #19 Single-handed sailor

We left Canada in 1960. Maple leaf came in 65?

Well, reading up on the history of Canada’s flags, the Red Ensign defaced with Canada’s arms was unofficially used since 1890 and became official in 1945 “whenever place or occasion makes it desirable to fly a distinctively Canadian flag.”

In 1964, Prime Minister Pierson formed a commission to study the ongoing problem of the nation not having an official flag (other than the Union Jack).

The current flag was adopted February 15, 1965, now marked as Flag Day in Canada. The Union Jack is also still an official flag, which is why it often appears in news reports involving Canadian officials.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:09:01pm

Just gonna throw out that I should have said more against the n-bomb that got dropped here ten days ago and to address the ongoing toxic fallout from how most of us responded (or more to the point, didn’t respond) to that event. When Bass Reeves objected I went back, saw the offending comment and agreed in one simplistic sentence that it was totally out of line, like that was going to be enough when it clearly wasn’t. I think as a community most of us need to confront the privilege and desire not to rock the boat that let that bullshit fester and led several valued minority voices to stop actively participating here. This isn’t to make the person who said it feel worse about his mistake, because I know he already feels horrible about what was an error of glib immaturity instead of genuine malice. It’s to acknowledge that I personally, out of combined cowardice and misplaced oversensitivity against dog-piling on the individual responsible, feel that I failed a test of responsibility in not treating the moment as seriously as it demanded.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:09:16pm

re: #14 Targetpractice

It wouldn’t even be a redux of Anita Hill. With Hill, there was an FBI investigation, 3 days of hearings, 22 witnesses, and the GOP at least tried to pretend that they gave a damn.

Here? No FBI investigation, 2 witnesses, and the GOP are already saying they’re doing this shit just to humor the rubes because they’ve already decided to confirm Kavanaugh despite what Prof. Ford says.

The Democrats were in charge of the Senate — so of course there was a more thorough investigation. If you had to rely on the GOP back then, my guess is that they wouldn’t have cared and we never would have heard of Anita Hill.

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:12:41pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

Oh, I doubt they all like Brett Kavanaugh. I suspect a few of them at best think of him as a nice guy and a few think he’s a smarmy prick. Who they like is Judge Kavanaugh, the reliable fifth vote for dismantling all those social policies they hate and protecting the president who is giving them what they want even if they hate him personally.

I think that’s exactly right. I still want to know why he bought all of those baseball tickets (which can be scalped) to pay off his gambling debts without looking like he paid off his gambling debts.

Addictive personalities are addictive personalities. Dry drunks often gamble. They need the rush. Kavanaugh had to know that he couldn’t drink and drug like he did in high school and at Yale, but he seemed to need to feed that kink.

He sucked up to everyone he worked for to get ahead and ended up as a Judge on the DC Circuit.

He’s done damn well for himself, a lifetime appointment on the second most influential Court in the country. At some point, he had to know that the nomination to SCOTUS would open him up to what is happening now, but it seems to me he just thought he would continue to skate, as if he was Charmed.

We’ll see, won’t we? I personally think he’s a post-toastie.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:24:27pm
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VegasGolfer  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:24:58pm

Who was saying most of California districts are red? 15 of 53 are. So not sure where this person is getting their info.
govtrack.us

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:27:32pm

Really old music. Or at least, music from a really old instrument

Neanderthal Bone Flute Music

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:30:50pm

re: #30 Hecuba’s daughter

The Democrats were in charge of the Senate — so of course there was a more thorough investigation. If you had to rely on the GOP back then, my guess is that they wouldn’t have cared and we never would have heard of Anita Hill.

True enough. They’re only humoring this now because of Hill and the voter backlash that came because of it. If they still had 6 months on the clock, they’d be seriously considering dropping Kavanaugh and calling up Donny to ask for a new nominee. But at a month and half left on the clock. Not a chance, they know that the political fallout from doing that would never cool before November. And when there’s a statistically significant chance you’re gonna lose the Senate, you can’t lose your base with no time left on the clock to win them back.

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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:32:10pm

re: #33 VegasGolfer

Who was saying most of California districts are red? 15 of 53 are. So not sure where this person is getting their info.
govtrack.us

Not most districts; just that the ones that are red, are really really red. Farming districts with very few citizen residents, prison districts where the population aren’t voters, desert districts where the residents are oldsters in their RVs at trailer parks.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:36:01pm

re: #32 goddamnedfrank

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:37:09pm

re: #30 Hecuba’s daughter

The Democrats were in charge of the Senate — so of course there was a more thorough investigation. If you had to rely on the GOP back then, my guess is that they wouldn’t have cared and we never would have heard of Anita Hill.

I also remember what an asshole Biden was back then. He mellowed with age, but boy, he screwed over Anita Hill, not allowing supporting witnesses to testify. Thomas was approved 52-48.

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Targetpractice  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:40:40pm

I miss the old days when the overnight hours on LGF were about joking around, talking geek stuff, and generally mellowing out from the day. Every night now seems to be spent talking about how much of a fucking trainwreck our democracy has become.

I think the difference is because under Obama, the worst we had to worry about from the GOP was they’d stamp their foots and hold their breathes. Now, we have to actually worry the fuckers are gonna tear the whole fucking thing down so they can sell off everything that isn’t nailed down, rip up everything that is, and then come back with crowbars to pull out the nails.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:41:28pm

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

I did not see the offending comment and subsequent argument until days after it occurred.

There are people in my town who use it openly. Not long after I moved here I made very clear to the first person in a conversation with me who used it that I don’t care to hear such speech. That got around rather quickly, and no one uses it around me or my wife any more.

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VegasGolfer  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:44:19pm

re: #36 sagehen

Oh, ok like shit places like alpine, julian, ramona that support duncan hunter. Or shit places like clovis, Visalia that support Nunes, or racist Orange County that supports Dana Rohrabacher (although thats changing rapidly).

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:47:18pm

I finished the new Spiderman PS4 game yesterday and man it was so good. Such a great story, really happy with how they let you play as Mary Jane Watson and Miles Morales. Particularly how they finally gave MJ real depth and agency, making her an investigative reporter instead of the more common actress / model / “save me Spiderman” kidnapping victim jobs her character is usually given. Also loved the humanizing of Martin Li / Mr Negative and Otto Octavious / Doctor Octopus, how complex their personalities and motivations were.

Anyway the gameplay was fantastic, it’s the first game I’ve gotten all the trophies in since Horizon: Zero Dawn, everything about it was the tits and thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:50:48pm

From last thread:
re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hillary said that if the GOP keeps Congress, Trump will go on a full throttled purge throughout the government.

Think of Stalin in the 30s…

I watched the interview during the replay and it was chilling. My brother was predicting this and basically on board with turning us into a dictatorship, though he would deny that: he was excited over a government that would be arresting Hillary and Obama for treason. If Trump isn’t stopped with the November election, the future for this country — and the world — will be grim indeed. No strong democracy will be left standing, as authoritarian or fascist personalities sweep into power, and the remaining democracies will be too weak to stop them.

My brother predicts that after Trump serves 8 years, the ticket of Pence and Nikki Haley will sweep into power.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:56:06pm

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austin_blue  Sep 18, 2018 • 10:57:27pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

I miss the old days when the overnight hours on LGF were about joking around, talking geek stuff, and generally mellowing out from the day. Every night now seems to be spent talking about how much of a fucking trainwreck our democracy has become.

I think the difference is because under Obama, the worst we had to worry about from the GOP was they’d stamp their foots and hold their breathes. Now, we have to actually worry the fuckers are gonna tear the whole fucking thing down so they can sell off everything that isn’t nailed down, rip up everything that is, and then come back with crowbars to pull out the nails.

I think you nailed it. The R’s want to socialize the cost and privatize the profit. If they retain the House and the Senate, they will repeal/gut the ACA, throw millions out of the insurance pools, fuck those with PECs, start gutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid with voucher systems to “balance the budget”, which they have torpedoed with tax cuts that have trashed Federal funding.

It’s a plan 40 years in the making which, if we don’t vote the bastards out this fall, will be our new reality.

So, yeah, I miss the Obama years, when we could wax philosophical about music, books, and just jaw about this and that overnight. But this shit right now is deadly serious. No time to let up. We’ve got to beat these fuckers at the polls.

But I’m for the rack. The next steps on the Kitchen Upgrade (just fuck me) are on tomorrow. Why I decided to do this myself is beyond me. It’ll get done, but damn. Who knew that putting latex paint over pre-existing oil-based enamel paint would require a foray into Organic Chemistry? You live and learn, or you don’t live long.

Night all, sweet scaly dreams.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:00:09pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

P.S. My favorite random quote from the game.

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Kilroy was here  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:06:59pm

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:09:02pm

So, I’m seeing that Tom Selleck has quit his position on the NRA Board of Directors:

Tom Selleck, one of the National Rifle Association’s most recognizable and beloved celebrity endorsers, has abruptly resigned from the gun group’s board of directors, The Trace has learned.

The actor, an ardent gun collector famous for his starring roles in crime dramas like “Magnum, P.I.” and “Blue Bloods,” became an NRA member at age 8, and has served on the group’s 76-member board since 2005. He is revered among members, garnering 110,812 votes — more than any other candidate at the time — when he was re-elected to a fifth three-year term on the board last year.

Selleck’s publicist, Annette Wolf, confirmed to The Trace that he stepped down, saying that his participation had been minimal: “He has nothing to do with policy. He’s never been active on the board or anything the NRA engages in. He’s almost always been a silent board member.” She followed that up with a statement saying, “Tom Selleck has stepped down from the board of the NRA due to his work schedule. Mr. Selleck remains a member of the NRA.”

Asked if Selleck continued to support the NRA’s politics, policies, messaging, and mission, Wolf declined to comment.

thetrace.org

Interesting - maybe the craziness has become too much for him. Is he really that busy with work? I could’ve seen that as a plausible reason back in the 80’s, where he was genuinely busy with not only Magnum, P.I. but the occasional film role as well.* Nowadays, not so much.

*He was almost cast as Indiana Jones - but then he ended up under contract with CBS for Magnum, P.I. and the role went to Harrison Ford instead.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:28:30pm
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sagehen  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:32:08pm

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m seeing that Tom Selleck has quit his position on the NRA Board of Directors:

thetrace.org

Interesting - maybe the craziness has become too much for him. Is he really that busy with work? I could’ve seen that as a plausible reason back in the 80’s, where he was genuinely busy with not only Magnum, P.I. but the occasional film role as well.* Nowadays, not so much.

He’s exactly as busy as he was last year, and the year before, and the year before that.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:37:06pm

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

So, I’m seeing that Tom Selleck has quit his position on the NRA Board of Directors:

thetrace.org

Interesting - maybe the craziness has become too much for him. Is he really that busy with work? I could’ve seen that as a plausible reason back in the 80’s, where he was genuinely busy with not only Magnum, P.I. but the occasional film role as well.* Nowadays, not so much.

He has a cop show on CBS called Blue Bloods that’s been running since 2010, just renewed for it’s ninth season. Dude is getting paid.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:40:30pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

He has a cop show on CBS called Blue Bloods that’s been running since 2010, just renewed for it’s ninth season. Dude is getting paid.

That’s pretty good, actually; good for him.

I like Selleck as an actor - while I might disagree with him on a good many things, I’ve enjoyed his work over the decades. Same thing as Sean Penn - he’s waaaaay to the left of me, but he’s a damn solid actor and I appreciate his work.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:42:39pm

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

He has a cop show on CBS called Blue Bloods that’s been running since 2010, just renewed for it’s ninth season. Dude is getting paid.

Honestly I take this as evidence that the NRA is really getting toxic at this point. Because if Selleck, who is starring in some nine season strong cop procedural drama that I can only assume is on some all lives / blue lives matter bullshit, is dumping his NRA ties then that probably means CBS and his publicists saw the association as a real and growing problem.

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teleskiguy  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:44:15pm
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:46:11pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Honestly I take this as evidence that the NRA is really getting toxic at this point. Because if Selleck, who is starring in some nine season strong cop procedural drama shit that I can only assume is on some all lives / blue lives matter bullshit, is dumping his NRA ties then that probably means CBS and his publicists saw the association as a real and growing problem.

That’s what I’m thinking as well. Also, I noticed that his publicist “declined to comment” when asked if Selleck continues to “support the NRA’s politics, messaging and mission”.

That’s somewhat telling.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:47:26pm

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

That’s pretty good, actually; good for him.

I like Selleck as an actor - while I might disagree with him on a good many things, I’ve enjoyed his work over the decades. Same thing as Sean Penn - he’s waaaaay to the left of me, but he’s a damn solid actor and I appreciate his work.

I don’t really fuck with Tom Selleck anymore because on top of everything else the dude is a water thief.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:49:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 18, 2018 • 11:51:49pm

Stand by for Trump to claim credit… .

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:07:44am
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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:11:53am

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

I think about my glib racist comment I posted here that you speak of all the time. Mostly because I, singlehandedly, drove away from LGF a number of our Black brothers and sisters from being a part of the community. I turned a good safe space into a sewer with one comment. It eats me on the inside, it really does. I thought I was being edgy when in fact I was being capricious and hateful. Like I said in my apology, I have a lot to atone for.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:18:32am

re: #60 teleskiguy

I think about my glib racist comment I posted here that you speak of all the time. Mostly because I, singlehandedly, drove away from LGF a number of our Black brothers and sisters from being a part of the community. I turned a good safe space into a sewer with one comment. It eats me on the inside, it really does. I thought I was being edgy when in fact I was being capricious and hateful. Like I said in my apology, I have a lot to atone for.

Part of the reason I didn’t say more at the time is because I’m aware of the other demons you’ve been struggling with and didn’t want to add to them or make you feel like you also aren’t valuable to me, because you are. The situation sucks, but it’s not even close to entirely your fault, we all bear blame and if anything you inadvertently shined a light on our collective flaws, and hopefully we can become stronger and better as a result.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:20:41am
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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:24:56am

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:25:46am
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:27:04am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

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Out on bail and moved out of the apartment that the DPD and Rangers never searched.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:30:35am

I guess I should contribute to the Fuckface Von Clownstick penis canon.

It was good to hear Charles and Bob giggle and make jokes on Bob’s podcast yesterday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:37:13am

re: #64 Single-handed sailor

Who put Steve Scalise in charge of foreign talks?

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:11:46am

re: #4 Single-handed sailor

I wonder if conservatives will concede global warming when great whites show up off of Baffin Is.

They will concede on global warming when the Koch checks stop, and not before.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:14:30am

governorbundy.com

Ryan Bundy is running as an independent for Nevada Governor.

Oh man is there a bunch of “sovereign citizen” derp on his campaign Website.

On his “endorsements” page, he claims the endorsements of luminaries in governance: Ron Paul, Larry Klayman, former sheriff Richard Mack, and Donna Cox (Nye County commissioner).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:20:16am

Grermany has its on sort of sovereign citizens, “Freie Reichsbuerger”. They donot recognize the Federal Republic of Germany as a viable state or the legal successor of the German Reich that collapsed in 1945.

Myex-wife was dating a German monarchist, a fellow who heads an organization that is seeking to reinstate the Kaiser.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:23:11am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Grermany has its on sort of sovereign citizens, “Freie Reichsbuerger”. They donot recognize the Federal Republic of Germany as a viable state or the legal successor of the German Reich that collapsed in 1945.

Myex-wife was dating a German monarchist, a fellow who heads an organization that is seeking to reinstate the Kaiser.

Hm, so German monarchists don’t recognise the right of the sovereign to abdicate?

The world does seem to be full of wingnuts.

There are still wingnuts here who believe the Constitution is invalid (we should still be under the Articles of Confederation), or parts of it are (like abolishing slavery, the income tax, or acknowledging women’s right to vote).

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:25:53am

re: #43 Hecuba’s daughter

From last thread:
re: #169 Joe Bacon 🌹

I watched the interview during the replay and it was chilling. My brother was predicting this and basically on board with turning us into a dictatorship, though he would deny that: he was excited over a government that would be arresting Hillary and Obama for treason. If Trump isn’t stopped with the November election, the future for this country — and the world — will be grim indeed. No strong democracy will be left standing, as authoritarian or fascist personalities sweep into power, and the remaining democracies will be too weak to stop them.

My brother predicts that after Trump serves 8 years, the ticket of Pence and Nikki Haley will sweep into power.

I think your brother is fantasizing.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:29:51am

re: #52 Dr Lizardo

That’s pretty good, actually; good for him.

I like Selleck as an actor - while I might disagree with him on a good many things, I’ve enjoyed his work over the decades. Same thing as Sean Penn - he’s waaaaay to the left of me, but he’s a damn solid actor and I appreciate his work.

And he played a gay character in a Kevin Klein movie about coming out and accepting who you are years before same-sex marriage was even on the political radar.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:33:17am

Well, Poland got Mr. Trump’s attention by asking to have a “Fort Trump” built on their territory.

They are willing to pay $2B for said fort, to house permanently a US Armored division as a deterrent to Russia.

politico.eu

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:34:30am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

Well, Poland got Mr. Trump’s attention by asking to have a “Fort Trump” built on their territory.

They are willing to pay $2B for said fort, to house permanently a US Armored division as a deterrent to Russia.

politico.eu

They know how to butter up Trump to get what they want; they’ve been paying attention.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:35:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:36:35am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Hm, so German monarchists don’t recognise the right of the sovereign to abdicate?

The world does seem to be full of wingnuts.

There are still wingnuts here who believe the Constitution is invalid (we should still be under the Articles of Confederation), or parts of it are (like abolishing slavery, the income tax, or acknowledging women’s right to vote).

Those are two different movements, but they are based on the notion that the current Federal Republic of Germany is not a valid successor.

Theysort of have a point, it just sort of arose by mutual agreement from the three Western occupying forces and then later annexed the Soviet zone

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:42:18am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Grermany has its on sort of sovereign citizens, “Freie Reichsbuerger”. They donot recognize the Federal Republic of Germany as a viable state or the legal successor of the German Reich that collapsed in 1945.

Myex-wife was dating a German monarchist, a fellow who heads an organization that is seeking to reinstate the Kaiser.

Heh, I knew a Sufi in Berlin (an ethnic German convert) who was a monarchist wanting to bring back the monarchy, but as he explained it to me, it would be along the lines of a constitutional monarchy as seen in Sweden or the UK - his preferred models. For him, the monarch was more of a symbol of Germany’s traditions and its past.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:45:45am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

Heh, I knew a Sufi in Berlin (an ethnic German convert) who was a monarchist wanting to bring back the monarchy, but as he explained it to me, it would be along the lines of a constitutional monarchy as seen in Sweden or the UK - his preferred models. For him, the monarch was more of a symbol of Germany’s traditions and its past.

From what I’ve read about Canada, those who were the founders of the Canadian Confederacy specifically wanted a monarch (then Queen Victoria), because they saw fatal flaws in the election of a president as laid out in the US Constitution. They saw the Office of President as a partisan office and the leader of one party, who would not be seen as a uniter of the whole populace. Half the country would always hate whoever held the office.

I guess they saw Trump coming 150 years ago.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:49:37am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

Heh, I knew a Sufi in Berlin (an ethnic German convert) who was a monarchist wanting to bring back the monarchy, but as he explained it to me, it would be along the lines of a constitutional monarchy as seen in Sweden or the UK - his preferred models. For him, the monarch was more of a symbol of Germany’s traditions and its past.

That is also the model that the monarchists are promoting. But they fail to see that for starters, Germany does not have a long tradition of monarchy, the Hohenzollers only ruled a united Germany from 1871 to 1918.

And they fail to see that most people (including many Germans) see the Kaiser as a ludicrous comic-opera figure with pointy moustaches and a spiked helmet who stands for a part of Germany’s past that they see as long gone and outdated.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:57:48am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is also the model that the monarchists are promoting. But they fail to see that for starters, Germany does not have a long tradition of monarchy, the Hohenzollers only ruled a united Germany from 1871 to 1918.

And they fail to see that most people (including many Germans) see the Kaiser as a ludicrous comic-opera figure with pointy moustaches and a spiked helmet who stands for a part of Germany’s past that they see as long gone and outdated.

Yeah; hell, there’s monarchists here in Czech Republic as well. Not quite too sure who they’d wanna install up in Prague Castle, though…..the last monarch was the Austro-Hungarian Emperor and you have to go way, way back to find a monarch who wasn’t from one of the other (non-Czech) royal houses of Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:59:57am

re: #81 Dr Lizardo

Yeah; hell, there’s monarchists here in Czech Republic as well. Not quite too sure who they’d wanna install up in Prague Castle, though…..the last monarch was the Austro-Hungarian Emperor and you have to go way, way back to find a monarch who wasn’t from one of the other (non-Czech) royal houses of Europe.

Good King Wenceslas?

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:03:25am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Good King Wenceslas?

Probably not that far back - I’d go with George of Poděbrady (reign 1458-1471). And I’d imagine there may well be some living descendants of his running around (they might not even know it) to this day.

en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:04:30am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:06:45am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

From what I’ve read about Canada, those who were the founders of the Canadian Confederacy specifically wanted a monarch (then Queen Victoria), because they saw fatal flaws in the election of a president as laid out in the US Constitution. They saw the Office of President as a partisan office and the leader of one party, who would not be seen as a uniter of the whole populace. Half the country would always hate whoever held the office.

I guess they saw Trump coming 150 years ago.

There is a very good argument that Constitutional Monarchies are the best form of democracy, and presidential systems are unstable due to the likelihood of conflict between the legislative and executive branches (which the US sees often) which can result in government break down and dictatorship.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:07:31am

BBL.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:10:22am

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

From what I’ve read about Canada, those who were the founders of the Canadian Confederacy specifically wanted a monarch (then Queen Victoria), because they saw fatal flaws in the election of a president as laid out in the US Constitution. They saw the Office of President as a partisan office and the leader of one party, who would not be seen as a uniter of the whole populace. Half the country would always hate whoever held the office.

They have a point — when Head of State and Head of Government are different people, there’s one focus for the patriotic warmth on celebration days or mourning days that’s not dependent on whether or not your party is in office. Also, the focus for that feeling… has no operational control, and didn’t cause (or fail to prevent) whatever it is you’re reacting to.

When a soldier gets a medal for extraordinary valor, or when Olympic athletes and World Cup champions and great scientists and filmmakers and musicians get national honors of one kind or another — if it were me, that joy of that award ceremony would be dependent on whether it’s a president I voted for or against. (also… no championship team would refuse an invitation from the Queen, and she’d never badmouth the players she silently disapproved of.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:13:30am

re: #85 Big Beautiful Door

There is a very good argument that Constitutional Monarchies are the best form of democracy, and presidential systems are unstable due to the likelihood of conflict between the legislative and executive branches (which the US sees often) which can result in government break down and dictatorship.

Remember that the American Civil War started because no single southern state voted for or recognized Abraham Lincoln as President and saw him as a dictator.

I prefer a parliamentary system in which the Chancellor or Prime Minister has to command a majority of votes in the legislature, and the President (or monarch) serves a chiefly ceremonial function.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:16:17am

re: #87 sagehen

There were plenty of people who hated Obama, and now plenty of people who hate Trump. It does seem the office is more destined to division rather than unity.

My mother has always been a sort of monarchist (she is basically of the same position of the divisive nature of the Presidency and the idea the President spends a great deal of time on party politics). She is of the opinion that we should either join the Commonwealth or train up our own monarchs.

The problem with that though to me seems to a) condemn a family to a life they might not want (constantly in the news, little privacy, when a prince or princess rebels against that model and simply wants to be a person they get pilloried in the press), and b) who the heck would we pick? If we’re picking our own, the bloodbath over that might be a real bloodbath. (King David Koch? King Peter Thiel?)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:20:23am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

There were plenty of people who hated Obama, and now plenty of people who hate Trump. It does seem the office is more destined to division rather than unity.

Obama was elected with a majority of the popular vote, but that is not a given with our Electoral College.

Remember that Lincoln had a plurality, but lss than 40% of the vote overall.

And do not forget that Trump would have won the popular vote if not for all those millions of illegal Hillary supporters…

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:22:45am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember that the American Civil War started because no single southern state voted for or recognized Abraham Lincoln as President and saw him as a dictator.

I prefer a parliamentary system in which the Chancellor or Prime Minister has to command a majority of votes in the legislature, and the President (or monarch) serves a chiefly ceremonial function.

Preferably a monarch, because even a ceremonial president is elected, so it can turn what should be a purely ceremonial position into a political one, and then seek to exercise power in an illegitimate manner. The problem with monarchies, of course, is that accident of birth can put a totally inappropriate person in the position. Perhaps the best answer is a term limited “monarch” selected by a non-partisan body from a group of worthies who have excelled in cultural or scientific endeavours and thereby represent the best of us on merit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:25:21am

re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Obama was elected with a majority of the popular vote, but that is not a given with our Electoral College.

Remember that Lincoln had a plurality, but lss than 40% of the vote overall.

And do not forget that Trump would have won the popular vote if not for all those millions of illegal Hillary supporters…

Every time the Electoral College comes up, it seems there is an endless supply of conservative apologists saying “well, this is a republic, not a democracy.”

Electoral colleges have nothing to do with republics. That’s not even a good deflection. Every frickin’ town in the nation with a government can be described as a republic. The constitution calls on states to have republican forms of government (but doesn’t say how a state must form that government, which is why my state only has one house instead of two). No state uses an electoral college to select a state governor.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:26:44am

re: #91 Big Beautiful Door

Germany’s President is elected by the Legislature but the choice is supposed to be non-partisan, preferably involving a non-politician who is well regarded by the public as a whole.

They even elected a career politician a few years back, Christian Wulff, who was later involved in an influence-peddling scandal, a relatively minor matter compared to our current US President, but nonetheless had to resign in disgrace.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:27:40am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

There were plenty of people who hated Obama, and now plenty of people who hate Trump. It does seem the office is more destined to division rather than unity.

My mother has always been a sort of monarchist (she is basically of the same position of the divisive nature of the Presidency and the idea the President spends a great deal of time on party politics). She is of the opinion that we should either join the Commonwealth or train up our own monarchs.

The problem with that though to me seems to a) condemn a family to a life they might not want (constantly in the news, little privacy, when a prince or princess rebels against that model and simply wants to be a person they get pilloried in the press), and b) who the heck would we pick? If we’re picking our own, the bloodbath over that might be a real bloodbath. (King David Koch? King Peter Thiel?)

Someone apolitical, beloved due to excellence in their profession, for a limited term. What about King James, or Queen Latifah (they both already have the titles!).

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:32:36am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

The problem with that though to me seems to a) condemn a family to a life they might not want (constantly in the news, little privacy, when a prince or princess rebels against that model and simply wants to be a person they get pilloried in the press), and b) who the heck would we pick? If we’re picking our own, the bloodbath over that might be a real bloodbath. (King David Koch? King Peter Thiel?)

The Brits had the advantage of not having to “pick” somebody — they had leftovers from when it was a governing job, who were wise enough to pull back and turn themselves into ceremonials. Hundreds of years of history and tradition carries its own weight, and there’s no possible suitable alternative.

They almost lost the monarchy during the Charles/Diana, Andrew/Fergie mishegas. William and Harry (and their well-chosen wives) saved it, by being worthy. They attract tourists of other currencies, they spread glamor over British products that turn into massive exports, they build diplomatic goodwill all over the world that the foreign office can make use of, and they chose a good set of charitable endeavors that make their subjects think maybe they’re admirable enough figureheads and examples to be worth the taxpayer money.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:33:44am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany’s President is elected by the Legislature but the choice is supposed to be non-partisan, preferably involving a non-politician who is well regarded by the public as a whole.

They even elected a career politician a few years back, Christian Wulff, who was later involved in an influence-peddling scandal, a relatively minor matter compared to our current US President, but nonetheless had to resignn in disgrace.

I think the head of state should be selected from the arts and sciences, not a politician or a CEO type who may have ideas about running things rather than representing the country as a whole.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:34:19am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:35:32am

re: #94 Big Beautiful Door

Someone apolitical, beloved due to excellence in their profession, for a limited term. What about King James, or Queen Latifah (they both already have the titles!).

Not sure even of that.

That would prohibit all scientists of note (they uphold things like evolution and climate change), King James and Quen Latifah sing music others don’t like (and many musicians have some sort of political songs), &c.

Perhaps Queen Elizabeth would take us?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:36:41am

re: #96 Big Beautiful Door

I think the head of state should be selected from the arts and sciences, not a politician or a CEO type who may have ideas about running things rather than representing the country as a whole.

King Ben Garrison.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:38:05am

I would support privatising the British monarchy (British Royal plc).

They could certaily support themselves by charging for speeches and appearances, those who are monarch-crazy would still have them to idolise and those who live in the modern world could ignore them and not have to support them with their tax money.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:38:40am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

King Ben Garrison.

And a non-partisan body designed to select a head of state should recognize he would be a totally inappropriate choice.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:40:07am

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹

Not sure even of that.

That would prohibit all scientists of note (they uphold things like evolution and climate change), King James and Quen Latifah sing music others don’t like (and many musicians have some sort of political songs), &c.

Perhaps Queen Elizabeth would take us?

There are those who argue it would’ve been better if we hadn’t revolted and ended up more like Canada.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:40:22am

In Kansas Governor’s Race, Key Republicans Are Backing the Democrat Over Kris Kobach (Goes to Mother Jones)

I’m not really sure how important endorsements are in a political race, whether it’s a newspaper, a current or former politician, &c. It seems to me only if the endorser has a great following of people will they use an endorsement as part of the calculus of who to vote for.

Former Republican Kansas Senator Nancy Kassebaum, who served from 1978 to 1997, endorsed Democratic gubernatorial candidate Laura Kelly over Republican Kris Kobach on Tuesday. “It seems to me that Kobach has developed a record that shows a focus on ways and how to accomplish his end goals that I think are not the best for Kansas,” Kassebaum said.

Earlier this month, former Kansas Republican Gov. Bill Graves, who held office from 1995 to 2003, also announced he was endorsing Kelly over Kobach. “Laura Kelly is the only Democrat I have ever endorsed for public office,” Graves said. “And the reason I’m doing that now is because I believe so much is at stake in the state of Kansas.”

(more)

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:44:54am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

In Kansas Governor’s Race, Key Republicans Are Backing the Democrat Over Kris Kobach (Goes to Mother Jones)

I’m not really sure how important endorsements are in a political race, whether it’s a newspaper, a current or former politician, &c. It seems to me only if the endorser has a great following of people will they use an endorsement as part of the calculus of who to vote for.

(more)

There is an independent candidate for Governor, Greg Orman, who I’m afraid will split the anti-Kobach vote and let him slip into office.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:45:39am

re: #104 Big Beautiful Door

There is an independent candidate for Governor, Greg Orman, who I’m afraid will split the anti-Kobach vote and let him slip into office.

We can hope that doesn’t happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:48:55am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

We can hope that doesn’t happen.

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Sometimes I wonder if the natural state of an electorate is to be lied to, by people in power, because believing lies almost always feels better than believing the truth.

It ain’t just politics, it is the basis of many relationships…

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:50:16am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sometimes I wonder if the natural state of an electorate is to be lied to, by people in power, because believing lies almost always feels better than believing the truth.

It ain’t just politics, it is the basis of many relationships…

I found that out in my first marriage.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:52:29am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

We can hope that doesn’t happen.

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I looked through Orman’s campaign website, and he is running as a centrist Democrat would; support for public education, medicaid expansion, and sensible gun control regulation. So he’s going to split the anti-Kobach vote. We can only hope that his support falls as sane people realize that if they vote for Orman, they are helping Kobach win.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:56:09am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

There were plenty of people who hated Obama, and now plenty of people who hate Trump. It does seem the office is more destined to division rather than unity.

This seems like a superficial comparison. People hated Obama because he was black and competent and how those two things threatened their deeply held racism, pointless cruelty and greed. Conversely the people who hate Trump do so because he’s an incompetent, militantly ignorant, regressive and narcissistic white nationalist who targets the most vulnerable populations for harm. The problem isn’t the Presidency, it’s the fact that American conservatism is rooted in toxic nostalgia and white cultural revanchism.

My mother has always been a sort of monarchist (she is basically of the same position of the divisive nature of the Presidency and the idea the President spends a great deal of time on party politics). She is of the opinion that we should either join the Commonwealth or train up our own monarchs.

The problem with that though to me seems to a) condemn a family to a life they might not want (constantly in the news, little privacy, when a prince or princess rebels against that model and simply wants to be a person they get pilloried in the press), and b) who the heck would we pick? If we’re picking our own, the bloodbath over that might be a real bloodbath. (King David Koch? King Peter Thiel?)

The other obvious problems are the constitutional prohibition against inherited titles and that the proposal is literally a cornerstone of the neo-reactionary / dark enlightenment call to replace representative democracy with a modern form of feudalism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:00:25am

Orman seems to support a lot of things Democrats generally support according to his Website, while at the same time throwing out a “both-siderist” argument for why he is running.

However, Wikipedia notes he is a perennial candidate, so he has a history of losing. Wikipedia notes he worked for George HW Bush’s and Ross Perot’s campaigns. He also donated money to Todd Akin, and admires Ronald Reagan.

His candidate donations are all over the map, including Al Franken and Hillary Clinton.

Before 2007 he was a Republican, 2007-2009 a Democrat, and now an independent.

He is also entangled with a Goldman Sachs director who was convicted of insider trading.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:04:19am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹

Orman seems to support a lot of things Democrats generally support according to his Website, while at the same time throwing out a “both-siderist” argument for why he is running.

However, Wikipedia notes he is a perennial candidate, so he has a history of losing. Wikipedia notes he worked for George HW Bush’s and Ross Perot’s campaigns. He also donated money to Todd Akin, and admires Ronald Reagan.

His candidate donations are all over the map, including Al Franken and Hillary Clinton.

Before 2007 he was a Republican, 2007-2009 a Democrat, and now an independent.

He is also entangled with a Goldman Sachs director who was convicted of insider trading.

Despite which Orman is drawing nearly double digit support in polling, with Kobach holding a slim one point lead over Kelly.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:06:22am

re: #111 Big Beautiful Door

Despite which Orman is drawing nearly double digit support in polling, with Kobach holding a slim one point lead over Kelly.

At the very end of the Wikipedia article they address recent polling.

In a poll conducted on September 12-13, Orman, at 9% trailed Kobach and Democratic State Senator Laura Kelly, each by almost 20 points. By September 18, 2018, dozens of prominent Republicans had endorsed Kelly, including former Governor Bill Graves, former U.S. Senators Sheila Frahm and Nancy Kassebaum, and former Kansas Senate President Dick Bond

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:08:27am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

At the very end of the Wikipedia article they address recent polling.

In a poll conducted on September 12-13, Orman, at 9% trailed Kobach and Democratic State Senator Laura Kelly, each by almost 20 points. By September 18, 2018, dozens of prominent Republicans had endorsed Kelly, including former Governor Bill Graves, former U.S. Senators Sheila Frahm and Nancy Kassebaum, and former Kansas Senate President Dick Bond

I hope they make a difference. I’d hate to see that Nazi win the governor’s race.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:09:20am

re: #113 Big Beautiful Door

I hope they make a difference. I’d hate to see that Nazi win the governor’s race.

You and me both. Kansas is too close to me. We’ll need to build a wall on our southern border and get Kansas to pay for it. /s

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:11:17am

The Senate has voted for a government spending bill 93-7 which doesn’t include funding for The Great Wall of Trump, and the House is expected to approve it before the 9/30 government shutdown deadline. With a veto-proof majority, will Trump carry out his threat to veto it?

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:15:02am

Guy who says dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark tapped to review Arizona’s evolution standards (AZ Central, more at the link, an opinion piece):

Here is a bit of instruction from a guy Superintendent Diane Douglas tapped to help review Arizona’s standards on how to teach evolution in science class:

The earth is just 6,000 years old and dinosaurs were present on Noah’s Ark. But only the young ones. The adult ones were too big to fit, don’t you know.

“Plenty of space on the Ark for dinosaurs - no problem,” Joseph Kezele explained to Phoenix New Times’ Joseph Flaherty.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:20:55am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Guy who says dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark tapped to review Arizona’s evolution standards (AZ Central, more at the link, an opinion piece):

I bet they get climate change deniers to review the science standards as well.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:21:48am

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

I bet they get climate change deniers to review the science standards as well.

And the Earth is flat.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:29:49am

BTW, in case anyone is curious, the Internet Wayback Machine has archived a lot of Rage Furby’s now-defunct gotnews.com. If he shuttered the site to avoid some kind of legal trouble, he’s forgotten that nothing on the Internet is ever gone forever.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:33:24am

So Ford says she wants an FBI investigation before she testifies.
Grassley and Hatch say hey, we’re giving her a chance to come tell her story on Monday, if she doesn’t want to then let’s just vote.
Morning Joe says what would an FBI investigation add?

Here’s what it would add.

The other guy who was in the room, his lawyer’s letter says he doesn’t remember any such event. But if he were subpoenaed and had to testify under oath, or if the FBI sat down to talk to him, maybe “he doesn’t remember such an event” turns into “I was a blackout drunk, I don’t remember anything after 9pm on any day that whole year”… which doesn’t confirm her story, but it’s sure not exculpatory for Kavanaugh either.

And one or two of the girls who were downstairs at the time, whose names she told WaPo… nobody’s talked to them. But maybe they’ve since gotten married and changed their names, and when the story broke they decided to go sailing or camping or something for a couple of weeks and nobody can get them on the phone, because they or their husbands have professional reasons not to want to get on the bad side of an appellate court judge who might soon be a supreme, so WaPo can’t reach them to ask. But if there were an FBI investigation, they can’t stay incommunicado forever. They’d have to answer a few questions. Like if there was such a party, and she ran downstairs and out of the house looking frazzled, and the guys told them something and they stopped being friendly with her and never spoke to her again.

This is what would be the point of an FBI investigation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:36:20am

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

I bet they get climate change deniers to review the science standards as well.

re: #118 wheat-dogg

And the Earth is flat.

The review is only to revise the sections of biology which address evolution; Evolution by Natural Selection is specifically targeted. The superintendent is a person who believes in Intelligent Design (and I guarantee you the designer is not Eris or aliens), and that the Bible accurately describes life on Earth.

The review board has removed many references to the word “evolution” and qualified others.

It is unfortunate that so-called moderate Christians give cover to people like this superintendent (or many other politicians): He supports “Christian values” (whatever those are) so I am going to vote for him.

That allows extremists who would extinguish religious liberty and drag science back to the Dark Ages to get into offices.

Polling repeatedly shows the overwhelming majority of Christians of all stripes would vote against a well-qualified atheist. (That might explain why out of nearly a thousand offices in my state of three million people, only two of us hold office here.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:39:14am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

From that article:

“Should the theory [sic] of intelligent design be taught along with the theory of evolution? Absolutely,” Douglas said at the time. “I had a discussion with my staff, because we’re currently working on science standards, to make sure this issue was addressed in the standards we’re working on.”

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:45:32am

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

What bugs me about these knuckleheads is the whole question of whether Intelligent Design belongs in science classes has already been adjudicated. A Republican-appointed federal judge ruled in Kitzmiller v Dover Board of Education that intelligent design was patently a disguised version of creationism, a religious belief, and therefore could not be taught in the public schools. While his ruling technically would only apply initially to his district, it serves as a national precedent, and doubtless other federal judges would rule the same way. All these loons are opening themselves up to a civil complaint and expensive legal fees, and a losing court case.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:52:45am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

On top of that, creationism previously had also been banned by the courts (and ID was just dressed-up creationism, as shown in the Kitzmiller case).

They will never give up though. Whether it’s Catholics trying to ban contraceptive devices, Evangelicals trying to push ID and mandatory prayer in schools, &c, all religious groups when they are powerful do not seek to convince people with their ideas. They seek legislative power to force everyone to accept their ideas.

Their ideas cannot stand on their own merit, so leveraging legislatures to pass them into law is what they want.

What really gets me is the so-called moderate, who votes for people like that, never realising that their own beliefs will be on the chopping block as well.

The Roman Catholic Church accepts Evolution by Natural Selection, yet supports wingnut politicians because of their stance on abortion. Catholics don’t seem to notice that such politicians would also come after them.

The same seems to apply to all so-called moderate Christians: They won’t come after my church or my beliefs.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:55:17am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

On top of that, creationism previously had also been banned by the courts (and ID was just dressed-up creationism, as shown in the Kitzmiller case).

They will never give up though. Whether it’s Catholics trying to ban contraceptive devices, Evangelicals trying to push ID and mandatory prayer in schools, &c, all religious groups when they are powerful do not seek to convince people with their ideas. They seek legislative power to force everyone to accept their ideas.

Their ideas cannot stand on their own merit, so leveraging legislatures to pass them into law is what they want.

What really gets me is the so-called moderate, who votes for people like that, never realising that their own beliefs will be on the chopping block as well.

The Roman Catholic Church accepts Evolution by Natural Selection, yet supports wingnut politicians because of their stance on abortion. Catholics don’t seem to notice that such politicians would also come after them.

The same seems to apply to all so-called moderate Christians: They won’t come after my church or my beliefs.

Catholics and Baptists, of all sects, should remember what historically has happened to them at the hands of the State Church.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:55:44am

Moreover, if they keep refighting cases that have been lost already (creationism, Roe v Wade, Griswold v Connecticut, &c), they get a twofer:

a) Spending money on losing cases means they don’t have to spend it on allegedly Christian things like charitable works for the less fortunate, education, &c.

b) If they win, they set a precedent and overturn secular law which protects everyone including religious people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:58:25am
[Joseph] Kezele teaches biology at Arizona Christian University in Phoenix. He advocates teaching his version of “established, real science” in classrooms.

Evolution, he said, is a false explanation for life and should be taught so that students “can defend against it, if they want to.”

“I’m not saying to put the Bible into the classroom, although the real science will confirm the Bible,” Kezele told Phoenix New Times in an interview on Wednesday. “Students can draw their own conclusions when they see what the real science actually shows.”

phoenixnewtimes.com

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:59:31am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

You left out Loving v. Virginia and Brown v. Board of Ed.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:01:04am

re: #4 Single-handed sailor

I wonder if conservatives will concede global warming when great whites show up off of Baffin Is.

No. They will tell you Baffin Is doesn’t exsist

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:02:47am

re: #128 wheat-dogg

You left out Loving v. Virginia and Brown v. Board of Ed.

Baby steps … can’t take too big a bite out of the sandwich at once.

As examples of the science that should be taught in classrooms to disprove evolution, Kezele offered unintelligible explanations about the human appendix and the strength of Earth’s magnetic field.

Just because he doesn’t understand them doesn’t mean there isn’t an explanation for either one. The comment above about teaching about the Flat Earth could also fit in here for this chowderhead.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:03:11am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹

The NCSE is on this case. Climate change is in fact being targeted by the un-science types.

While he reportedly refrained from discussing creationism during the process, “Kezele successfully convinced other members to de-emphasize evolution in at least one instance,” according to the New Times, changing a description of evolution as “the explanation” for the unity and diversity of life to “an explanation.”

Although there are places in which the treatment of evolution was improved, the idea of common ancestry — which is prominent in the NRC Framework for K-12 Science Education and Working with Big Ideas of Science Education, both major sources for the Arizona standards — is still absent from the draft.

Meanwhile, climate change seems also to have been targeted in the latest draft, with — for example — the wholesale deletion of the discussion of climate change in the high-school-level Earth and Space Science Plus (i.e., honors) section of the standards. It is as yet unclear what motivated these deletions.

The apparent targeting of climate change in Arizona’s state science standards was already noted in reports on the National Science Teacher Association’s recent statement on the teaching of climate science, such as Education Week’s and Inside Climate News’s (both September 13, 2018).

ncse.com

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:04:13am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

MAGNETS — HOW THE FUCK DO THEY WORK??

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Alephnaught  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:05:38am

Was reading this review in the Guardian of a new book about the KGB agent-turned-MI6 agent Oleg Gordievsky, and this paragraph leapt out:

[Author Ben] Macintyre touches only briefly on the unprecedented “download” of information given by Gordievsky to the west. It included details of the KGB’s attempts to influence western elections through “active measures”. In 1985 the KGB circulated a top secret “personality questionnaire”. It set out the characteristics it was looking for in a potential agent: narcissism, vanity, greed and marital infidelity. Soon afterwards, the Soviet government invited a prominent American, Donald Trump, to visit Moscow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:07:13am

re: #131 wheat-dogg

I also love the red herring arguments conservatives throw up when cornered on global warming (climate change is a conservative term - like pro-life), such as whataboutism.

“Well, if liberals really were concerned about climate change, they would give up their cars” or whatnot.

Gee, if I had an alternative to a gasoline car, I would use that. Since I don’t, I go with an extremely economical car, and combine trips so I’m not using fuel just for the hell of it.

(I can’t imagine a Smart car with “coal rolling” stacks on it.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:15:54am

re: #123 wheat-dogg

What bugs me about these knuckleheads is the whole question of whether Intelligent Design belongs in science classes has already been adjudicated. A Republican-appointed federal judge ruled in Kitzmiller v Dover Board of Education that intelligent design was patently a disguised version of creationism, a religious belief, and therefore could not be taught in the public schools. While his ruling technically would only apply initially to his district, it serves as a national precedent, and doubtless other federal judges would rule the same way. All these loons are opening themselves up to a civil complaint and expensive legal fees, and a losing court case.

They want a court case, they want publicity, they want to present themselves as the modern-day Galileos vs the Secular Inquisition.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:26:20am

Erick son of Erick still a snowflake.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:30:30am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:32:39am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:49:45am

re: #138 Dave In Austin

Time to structure donations to dark money organisations so no donation is over $200.

It might take Karl Rove or the Koch Brothers a little work, but shouldn’t be too hard to create millions of fake people to donate $200 each.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:50:12am

teevee time

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:53:01am

Time to add another Republican to the GOP Rape Advisory Chart.

Did MN senator try to excuse teen attempted rape in Kavanaugh tweet? Twitter thinks so. ‘Even if true, teenagers!’ goes viral (Twin Cities [MN] Pioneer Press, more at the link):

Highlights

State Sen. Scott Newman, R-Hutchinson, tweeted, in part “Even if true, teenagers!” in response to a the Kavanaugh allegations.
The woman alleges that a drunken Kavanaugh held her down, tried to remove her swimsuit and held his hand over her mouth when she cried for help some four decades ago when they were both teens. Kavanaugh has denied it.
Newman is traveling and has been unreachable.
Twitter is on fire with criticism against him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:54:58am
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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:55:38am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:58:02am

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

Time to structure donations to dark money organisations so no donation is over $200.

It might take Karl Rove or the Koch Brothers a little work, but shouldn’t be too hard to create millions of fake people to donate $200 each.

They will suddenly decide cryptocurrencies are da bomb, and encourage donations in Monero.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:58:33am
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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:03:04am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:03:26am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:04:05am

gotnews.com may be gone, but GotNwes.com is still here - for now

I considered writing some speculations as to why Chuck abandoned GotNews and burned it to the ground, but decided to take the high road.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:06:03am

re: #148 wheat-dogg

gotnews.com may be gone, but GotNwes.com is still here - for now

I considered writing some speculations as to why Chuck abandoned GotNews and burned it to the ground, but decided to take the high road.

The high road?

Does that mean you pilloried Rage Furby mercilessly? That would be the high road.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:08:21am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:09:21am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:11:55am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

No, I decided to imply rather than pillory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:12:41am

Human interaction, especially when it comes to sex, is way too complex, nuanced and association-laden to be boiled down to catchphrases like “boys will be boys” or “she was drunk and asking for it!”

But civic discourse has degenerated to a shouting match of Tweets and memes and talking points that make it impossible to do anything but announce one’s association with a particular faction on a particular issue.

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Anymouse 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:13:39am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good deal for North Korea if we abolished all our missiles and such.

I imagine Trump will agree to it.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:17:48am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Human interaction, especially when it comes to sex, is way too complex, nuanced and association-laden to be boiled down to catchphrases like “boys will be boys” or “she was drunk and asking for it!”

But civic discourse has degenerated to a shouting match of Tweets and memes and talking points that make it impossible to do anything but announce one’s association with a particular faction on a particular issue.

There is apparently a faction for “it’s OK if a teenager once tried to rape another student if he grew up to be our favored SCOTUS nominee.”

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:22:50am

Trumpy not happy with Jeffy.

“I have no attorney general.”

thehill.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:27:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:31:40am
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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:33:27am

I’m not really that big of a fan of Hozier, but damn. That is one hell of a track.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:33:42am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:40:38am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

This tweet reminds me of another irritant I now have as a manager of teachers. I’ve got one on staff who always closes his texts with “Please respond ASAP,” but himself takes at least a day or two to reply to an email (when he does), and several hours to respond to a text. And it’s not just me. He does the same thing with the office assistants.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:43:01am

re: #161 wheat-dogg

I suspect he’s a Republican.
//half

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:43:55am

asshole socialist aryan party

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:50:55am

re: #161 wheat-dogg

So the next time he sends an email with that line go to where he is in person and respond. That type of response stopped a co-worker (on another job) from doing that.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:57:25am

re: #165 PhillyPretzel

So the next time he sends an email with that line go to where he is in person and respond. That type of response stopped a co-worker (on another job) from doing that.

I might just do that. He hates it when people enter his classroom without knocking first.

OTOH I kept him waiting for an entire hour the other night, because he did that “please respond ASAP” texting bullshit while I was at dinner.

I have already advised the staff that I expect quick responses to emails as a professional courtesy. He and another guy are the holdouts to that request.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:05:09am

re: #166 wheat-dogg

It was a female boss who just got promoted who closed her office emails like that. I was not the only one who was pissed off at her emails. When I asked her why she did it she said that is what she was told by some higher-ups. Being the English major I came up with a list of some other replies. She choose the very simple “Thanks.”

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:26:10am

It’s safe to say this senile old bastard has no idea how anything works.

President Donald Trump displayed a deep misunderstanding of his own authority Tuesday, bemoaning that he didn’t fire FBI Director James Comey back when he won the Republican primary, or at least after the Republican convention, in an interview with the Hill.

Barack Obama was still President during both of those events and vested with the power to fire Comey.

“If I did one mistake with Comey, I should have fired him before I got here. I should have fired him the day I won the primaries,” Trump told the Hill. “I should have fired him right after the convention, say I don’t want that guy. Or at least fired him the first day on the job. I would have been better off firing him or putting out a statement that I don’t want him there when I get there.”

Hey, maybe you should have fired Comey after season 2 of The Apprentice. Moron.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:26:46am

re: #167 PhillyPretzel

It was a female boss who just got promoted who closed her office emails like that. I was not the only one who was pissed off at her emails. When I asked her why she did it she said that is what she was told by some higher-ups. Being the English major I came up with a list of some other replies. She choose the very simple “Thanks.”

Maybe he learned from the same higher-ups, who probably read it in some MBA textbook.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:28:43am

re: #168 makeitstop

It’s safe to say this senile old bastard has no idea how anything works.

Hey, maybe you should have fired Comey after season 2 of The Apprentice. Moron.

Why did he want to fire Comey so badly?

Rhetorical question

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:33:19am

re: #161 wheat-dogg

This tweet reminds me of another irritant I now have as a manager of teachers. I’ve got one on staff who always closes his texts with “Please respond ASAP,” but himself takes at least a day or two to reply to an email (when he does), and several hours to respond to a text. And it’s not just me. He does the same thing with the office assistants.

As his boss, you work for him now, OK?

/

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:35:13am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

Trumpy not happy with Jeffy.

“I have no attorney general.”

thehill.com

I wonder if Sessions looks back on the day he thought he saw in DJT a kindred spirit, someone who would join him in keeping out the brownies, only to realize soon after that he was in an abusive relationship.

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b.d.(true to form)  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:35:40am

re: #168 makeitstop

It’s safe to say this senile old bastard has no idea how anything works.

Hey, maybe you should have fired Comey after season 2 of The Apprentice. Moron.

If Trump fired Comey after the primaries Hillary would be president today.

ok, fantasy world off//

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:44:18am

One the subject of workplace annoyances, for some reason my agency’s phone system requires I change the password for my mailbox like every other day and naturally I have finally forgotten or misplaced the last password I used and I can’t access the stupid thing.

Phone messages suck anyway and the ones likely sitting in my mailbox are BS, but it’s annoying. On my last day I’ll kidnap the office phone and give it the Office Space treatment outside with a baseball bat.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:45:07am

re: #173 b.d.(shaved yeti)

If Trump fired Comey after the primaries Hillary would be president today.

ok, fantasy world off//

Obama should have let DJT fire Comey after the GOP primaries because bipartisanship.

/

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:45:21am

There’s a DK diary complaining that the DCCC is reducing spending against Nunes to spend in other races, or, as they say, helping Nunes win. Nunes is currently ahead 5% with 1.5 months left. I hate to be a downer with the diarist and the other people who just know the DCCC is sabotaging his opponent, Andrew Janz, but sometimes you have to make choices.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:45:33am

re: #172 Sir John Barron

I wonder if Sessions looks back on the day he thought he saw in DJT a kindred spirit, someone who would join him in keeping out the brownies, only to realize soon after that he was in an abusive relationship.

I figure Sessions was like a lot of the GOP leadership, who thought they could tame Trump somehow, or that Trump would somehow level up to the office of the presidency. I don’t care for Sessions at all, but the fact that he hasn’t just quit suggests he has a deeper respect for his duties of office than Trump has of his.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:46:53am

This tweet was deleted, but someone caught a screen cap.

Ford’s lawyer should track this woman down

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:46:53am

re: #174 Sir John Barron

One the subject of workplace annoyances, for some reason my agency’s phone system requires I change the password for my mailbox like every other day and naturally I have finally forgotten or misplaced the last password I used and I can’t access the stupid thing.

Phone messages suck anyway and the ones likely sitting in my mailbox are BS, but it’s annoying. On my last day I’ll kidnap the office phone and give it the Office Space treatment outside with a baseball bat.

OK, but try not to set fire to the office.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:56:30am

ok boys and girls were gonna play this stupid moronic assinine game of “youthful indescretion”

i’d be perfectly willing to go along with this nonsense except for at least two things:

- the entire republican penal system idea is based on punishment because criminals CANT be rehabiliated

and

- DREAMERS - many of whom were actual infants when they came here

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:57:00am

Anticipating yet another epic fail from this move.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:59:07am

re: #181 makeitstop

Turning the Page FISA warrants into a bigger issue of politically-motivated spying requires a major suspension of disbelief given the mountain of evidence the FBI had of Page’s Russia ties. Republicans have chosen a very unsteady hill to die on:
— Natasha Bertrand

I would like to introduce you to Qanon, Fox News viewers, Rush Limbo listeners and the other deplorable morans of the wingnutsphere.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:01:05am

Does anyone know if a 501(c)(4) has to specifically let people know that their donations are not tax deductible?

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:01:08am

re: #182 Sir John Barron

I would like to introduce you to Qanon, Fox News viewers, Rush Limbo listeners and the other deplorable morans of the wingnutsphere.

Point taken.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:01:17am

re: #181 makeitstop

Anticipating yet another epic fail from this move.

I’m almost amazed Team MAGA is going with THE EVIDENCE IS INADMISSABLE defense.

It’s what murderers and rapists typically resort to when the cops have the DNA evidence and the murder weapon.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:06:26am

re: #184 makeitstop

Point taken.

Oh I meant that towards Natasha’s tweet.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:11:08am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

Guy who says dinosaurs were on Noah’s Ark tapped to review Arizona’s evolution standards (AZ Central, more at the link, an opinion piece):

Where’d they go when the ark landed and the waters receded?

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:12:54am

re: #120 sagehen

So Ford says she wants an FBI investigation before she testifies.
Grassley and Hatch say hey, we’re giving her a chance to come tell her story on Monday, if she doesn’t want to then let’s just vote.
Morning Joe says what would an FBI investigation add?

Here’s what it would add.

The other guy who was in the room, his lawyer’s letter says he doesn’t remember any such event. But if he were subpoenaed and had to testify under oath, or if the FBI sat down to talk to him, maybe “he doesn’t remember such an event” turns into “I was a blackout drunk, I don’t remember anything after 9pm on any day that whole year”… which doesn’t confirm her story, but it’s sure not exculpatory for Kavanaugh either.

And one or two of the girls who were downstairs at the time, whose names she told WaPo… nobody’s talked to them. But maybe they’ve since gotten married and changed their names, and when the story broke they decided to go sailing or camping or something for a couple of weeks and nobody can get them on the phone, because they or their husbands have professional reasons not to want to get on the bad side of an appellate court judge who might soon be a supreme, so WaPo can’t reach them to ask. But if there were an FBI investigation, they can’t stay incommunicado forever. They’d have to answer a few questions. Like if there was such a party, and she ran downstairs and out of the house looking frazzled, and the guys told them something and they stopped being friendly with her and never spoke to her again.

This is what would be the point of an FBI investigation.

Because no one ever, ever changes their first story after being expertly interviewed…

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:19:06am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They want a court case, they want publicity, they want to present themselves as the modern-day Galileos vs the Secular Inquisition.

Yup. They want equality and legitimacy without the bother of learning the math or science and then having to apply the math and science

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:19:19am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:21:28am

Just looked up the organization on the IRS website and it says they are a 501(c)(3). When someone posted something about how the president of the organization didn’t appear to be worried about the tax exempt status based on her posts, she said that they were a 501(c)(4).

Anyway, does anyone know anything about the 501(c)(3) status and simply what a group with that status can and cannot do? I’m looking to put this hate group out of business. (Power2Parent)

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:22:35am

re: #187 dangerman

Where’d they go when the ark landed and the waters receded?

Isla Nublar, silly.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:24:15am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

Good deal for North Korea if we abolished all our missiles and such.

I imagine Trump will agree to it.

You first
No you first
No you…

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:26:50am

re: #192 Dr Lizardo

Isla Nublar, silly.

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I’m pretty sure they went to Dinotopia.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:46:35am

Thread…

Checking 1, 2, 3

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:47:12am

Texas superintendent apologizes for racist remarks toward Deshaun Watson

A Texas superintendent has apologized for a racist Facebook comment about Houston Texans quarterback Deshaun Watson, saying that he wished he never posted derogatory words.

Lynn Redden, the superintendent of Onalaska school district 100 miles north of Houston, commented on a story about the Houston Texans’ recent loss to the Tennessee Titans.

On Sunday, Watson ran out the clock on the final play of the game as Houston lost 20-17.

Redden commented on the chron.com’s story, saying that “when you need precision decision making, you can’t count on a black quarterback.” He believed he was responding to a private message and deleted the comment when he realized it was a public post.

He’s only sorry he got caught and note that he actually doubled down on the bigotry. An emphasis on “precision decision making” as a racial characteristic is seriously archaic bigotry. One finds large pockets; indeed, huge veins and fields; of perfectly preserved 19th century racism throughout rural Texas. I’ve heard of goobers who know in their hearts that black people cannot learn to fly airplanes, tens of thousands of counter-examples not withstanding. They think it’s all a fake, there must be a white guy hidden in there somewhere to do the real flying, or some kind of Jewish-sourced magic that allows the black guy in the cockpit to be surreptitiously replaced before take off. I am not making this up.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:47:30am

re: #195 Sir John Barron

Yes we are still here. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:50:20am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:52:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:54:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:55:37am
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:57:00am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

My browser doesn’t support the amazon services The Hill is running on.

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plansbandc  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:57:29am

re: #187 dangerman

They’re still here. There wasn’t as much food, so they shrunk down to the lizards we see today. (Yes, this is really a talking point.)

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William Lewis  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:58:02am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

The same seems to apply to all so-called moderate Christians: They won’t come after my church or my beliefs.

Oh yes. We’re all so utterly alike. And there is only one true Atheism too, I suppose?

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:59:06am

re: #204 William Lewis

Oh yes. We’re all so utterly alike. And there is only one true Atheism too, I suppose?

My non-god is different than his non-god.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:03:23am

re: #204 William Lewis

Oh yes. We’re all so utterly alike. And there is only one true Atheism too, I suppose?

I thought Anymouse was pretty clear he was talking about moderate Christians who support the Right, not all moderate Christians.

But, you know, his point is correct - Dominionists aren’t particularly respectful of ANYONE’S views that disagree with theirs in any particular, and a whole lot of people don’t get that.

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Alephnaught  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:04:17am

Major weather action in Glasgow today, courtesy of #StormAli.

Lots of trees felled, hence this tweet: (Not sure about that GIF!)

Hence this tweet:

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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:04:29am

Hey guys,

Been MIA for a couple of days. I got the news yesterday at the doctor that I tested positive for strep throat. Ugh, I haven’t had strep throat in many years and thanks to some inconsiderate asshole at a show I went to Friday night (which I started to develop symptoms then), I had to take the rest of the day off reluctantly so I wouldn’t infest anybody. I thought it was one of those things that would go away after a day or two, but once Monday came around, I knew this was serious so I went to book a doctor’s appointment with my PCP instead of an Urgent Care Clinic as my PCP is better at diagnosing my issues than those places. I ended up receiving an antibiotic shot to the hip and got prescribed of Cefdinir for the duration of the 10 days needed. Don’t care what anyone says, herbalistic bullshit isn’t going to cure this, but actual medicine based on real science will. Antibiotics or bust, I say.

I also informed my doctor of some other things unrelated to the strep throat, as I may as well use my visit to its full potential. I got a x-ray done for my back and upper right side oblique below the arm pit to determine if I have a pinched nerve, and got my blood withdrawn to see what’s going on with my right pinky being swollen, thus preventing me from bending it all the way down, while my left pinky is perfectly fine. I’ll find out if it’s related to arthritis, or God forbid RA. Although if it was RA, it’s usually symmetrical so both fingers would be swollen instead of just one finger. Since it’s also an autoimmune disorder, I checked my recent bloodwork from the physical I had last month on my red/white blood cell count which was luckily well within range, so I don’t believe it can be RA. But I’ll be 100% certain to find out when the results come back soon.

I’ll be 34 in a couple of months so I’m too young to have these issues!

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:04:35am

re: #203 plansbandc

They’re still here. There wasn’t as much food, so they shrunk down to the lizards we see today. (Yes, this is really a talking point.)

that explains this in my yard, though it doesnt look very t-rex like:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:04:36am

re: #205 Belafon

My non-god is different than his non-god.

Like the line in Catch 22, where Yossarian’s atheist girlfriend breaks up with him, because the god she doesn’t believe in is kind and good, but the god HE doesn’t believe in is evil and twisted.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:06:08am

re: #206 Blind Frog Belly White

Or maybe I’m wrong, but based on the rest of the post I think it’s reasonably clear what he meant.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:08:58am

re: #208 electrotek

I hope you feel better soon.

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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:10:27am

re: #212 PhillyPretzel

I hope you feel better soon.

Cheers.

I’m on antibiotics so it’s a given that I will.

I just hope the swelling on my right pinky isn’t serious. I figured it had to do with my right hand getting in the way while I’m asleep, to which I purchased a wrist brace to avoid those issues from now on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:17:05am
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:26:49am
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Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:31:19am
The Department of Justice and the FBI will defy Donald Trump’s demand that secret documents from the Russia investigation be declassified and will redact the material, Bloomberg News reports. Citing three officials said to be familiar with the matter, the report says the documents are being reviewed and will be censored upon release. Trump wants some information, such as text messages between officials on the investigation, to be declassified immediately—because he said he suspects it will reveal a bias against him. The agencies want to guard against revealing classified sources and methods, so they plan to redact the material. However, Trump has the power to override the agencies and declassify material on his own if he’s unsatisfied by the level of detail they provide.

Duly noted at the end of the blurb that Trump does have the power to override the DOJ and the FBI’s decision, but it would nonetheless be a slap in the face to outright defy him.

thedailybeast.com

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:36:02am

Fascinating thread initiated by a GOP ex elected official. The responses are heartening.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:36:29am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

Duly noted at the end of the blurb that Trump does have the power to override the DOJ and the FBI’s decision, but it would nonetheless be a slap in the face to outright defy him.

thedailybeast.com

He should take another look at the 2016 election and see the bias against him.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:38:17am
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:39:13am

I cannot put a fine enough point how much I hate this motherfucker in the WH.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:41:18am

Cody Wilson, 3-D Printed Gun Advocate, Charged With Child Sexual Abuse (The Daily Beast)

Cody Wilson, who made headlines this summer as the founder of the company that publishes publicly available blueprints for 3-D guns, was charged Wednesday with child sexual assault, according to a report from ABC affiliate KVUE in Austin, Texas. The charges stem from alleged conduct that took place in August, when investigators were alerted to by a call from the alleged victim’s counselor. KVUE reports the alleged victim claimed she met Wilson on a site called sugardaddymeet.com, where Wilson reportedly told her that he was a “big deal” before identifying himself by name. The victim, per policy, remains unnamed, and has only been identified as a “juvenile female under the age of 17.” On Aug. 15, the teen claims she met Wilson in a parking lot, where he allegedly took her to a hotel and sexually assaulted her before paying her $500.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:42:14am

re: #220 MsJ

Actually I think he has it backward. DT is the cancer and the DOJ and the FBI are trying to contain it. I do not think it can be eliminated because DT is constantly on twitter.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:46:09am

re: #222 PhillyPretzel

Actually I think he has it backward. DT is the cancer and the DOJ and the FBI are trying to contain it. I do not think it can be eliminated because DT is constantly on twitter.

Pushing the analogy, Trump has already metastasized into the body politic.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:46:10am

re: #220 MsJ

I cannot put a fine enough point how much I hate this motherfucker in the WH.

My favorite Obama tweets were of him calling the FBI a “cancer” on the country and promising to eradicate it.

/

Needless to say, there would have been blood in the streets, or at least from Fox News and Breitbart, if Barack Obama had said any such thing during his presidency, or now.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:47:29am

re: #220 MsJ

I cannot put a fine enough point how much I hate this motherfucker in the WH.

My favorite tweets from HRC during the campaign were when she called the FBI and its email investigation a “cancer” and promised to eradicate it and purge the agency upon assuming the presidency.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:51:53am

re: #220 MsJ

I cannot put a fine enough point how much I hate this motherfucker in the WH.

DJT does know that he will not live forever or occupy the WH forever, right? Because he’s sure digging quite a whole for himself, sowing the wind, as evangelicals say, for himself AND HIS FAMILY in the federal law enforcement community, and for which HIS FAMILY will surely reap the whirlwind.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:53:33am

re: #226 Sir John Barron

DJT does know that he will not live forever or occupy the WH forever, right? Because he’s sure digging quite a whole for himself, sowing the wind, as evangelicals say, for himself AND HIS FAMILY in the federal law enforcement community, and for which HIS FAMILY will surely reap the whirlwind.

The beauty of being a narcissist is that your family does not matter except as window-dressing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:54:44am

How Lil Tay Conned Her Way to Stardom With Scripted Feuds, Scandals, and Racism (The Daily Beast)

Nine-year-old internet star Lil Tay built fame from ‘constructed’ controversies, then went dark over the summer. But new, disturbing images raise questions about what’s real.

Maybe we should burn down the Internet.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 8:57:06am

re: #228 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Who?

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:00:09am

OMG. This is horrible, absolutely horrific. Mental health patients with no criminal history.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:00:33am

re: #229 Belafon

Who?

Yeah, but somehow Internet famous.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:02:30am

re: #229 Belafon

Who?

Even after reading it…who?

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:03:04am

re: #213 electrotek

Cheers.

I’m on antibiotics so it’s a given that I will.

I just hope the swelling on my right pinky isn’t serious. I figured it had to do with my right hand getting in the way while I’m asleep, to which I purchased a wrist brace to avoid those issues from now on.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:06:52am

re: #220 MsJ

I cannot put a fine enough point how much I hate this motherfucker in the WH.

Trump calls FBI “truly a cancer in our country” and says exposing its corruption will be “one of my crowning achievements.”

um. we dont use crowns in this country

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Ming5000  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:07:45am

re: #178 makeitstop

This tweet was deleted, but someone caught a screen cap.

Ford’s lawyer should track this woman down

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This could be related.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:08:41am
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:10:04am

re: #235 Ming5000

This could be related.

Maybe Grassley and Hatch will hold a meeting for all of them.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:12:45am

re: #236 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The FBI should investigate. Victims should not be hauled before Congress.

accusers (victims) should not be made to face the false choice of either being hauled before congress or else summarily dismissed/ignored/rejected

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Ming5000  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:17:03am

re: #238 dangerman

accusers (victims) should not be made to face the false choice of either being hauled before congress or else summarily dismissed/ignored/rejected

Caught some of Mornin’ Joe and Mika and Joe both said that Dr. Ford had to appear Monday. It was her responsibility. I was pretty shocked at their position.
Joe said something about the R’s gave her the hearing and if she refused then she could be ignored. I had to switch stations.
(of course, this is what I heard … Specifics might be off)

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:19:03am

re: #239 Ming5000

Caught some of Mornin’ Joe and Mika and Joe both said that Dr. Ford had to appear Monday. It was her responsibility. I was pretty shocked at their position.
Joe said something about the R’s gave her the hearing and if she refused then she could be ignored. I had to switch stations.
(of course, this is what I heard … Specifics might be off)

I just read a tweet excoriating those morning assholes for exactly what you said.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:19:29am

Reset the fucking clock.

Police respond to reports of shooter at Middleton office building

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:21:28am

re: #235 Ming5000

This could be related.

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This is more credible daily. Kavanaugh needs to be toast.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:22:48am

re: #213 electrotek

Cheers.

I’m on antibiotics so it’s a given that I will.

I just hope the swelling on my right pinky isn’t serious. I figured it had to do with my right hand getting in the way while I’m asleep, to which I purchased a wrist brace to avoid those issues from now on.

Don’t be so sure. I went to a doctor for an earache 2 1/2 years ago. Initially they gave me eyedrops (!) to put in my ear, which made it hurt 10 times worse. I went back a few days later and they gave me a general—Cipro—which is presumably the cause of the tendonitis that’s pretty much crippled me for life. It didn’t start for a month or two instead of immediately like it’s supposed to, so it’s unprovable.

I still have the ear infection, it just doesn’t hurt any more….

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Dr. Matt  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:25:36am

re: #239 Ming5000

Morning Joe gave Michael Moore 30 minutes to explain to everyone that Dems are not going to take over either chamber.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:28:03am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

Morning Joe gave Michael Moore 30 minutes to explain to everyone that Dems are not going to take over either chamber.

Hate to give him credit but he saw Trump coming but this seems like chickrnshit from someone who benefits his agenda with the Dems outta power not unlike Limbaugh and the right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:28:25am

YIKES!

Transcript provided to PoliticusUSA by The White House:

Q What did you mean when you said you don’t have an Attorney General? What did you mean by that?

THE PRESIDENT: I’m disappointed in the Attorney General for numerous reasons. But we have an Attorney General. I’m disappointed in the Attorney General for many reasons. And you understand that.

Q Are you going to fire Jeff Sessions?

THE PRESIDENT: We are looking at lots of different things. I have a great Cabinet. We have the greatest economy ever in the history of our country. So we’re very happy with the way things are running, generally speaking. I don’t think we’ve ever had an economy like this. Somebody was on just this morning, from Reagan — from the Reagan White House. He said this is one of the great economies in history. So we’re very happy.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:28:39am
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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:28:41am

re: #243 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t be so sure. I went to a doctor for an earache 2 1/2 years ago. Initially they gave me eyedrops (!) to put in my ear, which made it hurt 10 times worse. I went back a few days later and they gave me a general—Cipro—which is presumably the cause of the tendonitis that’s pretty much crippled me for life. It didn’t start for a month or two instead of immediately like it’s supposed to, so it’s unprovable.

I still have the ear infection, it just doesn’t hurt any more….

To be fair, this is the same PCP I’ve been going to since 2000 though.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:29:48am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

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YIKES!

He looks hungover.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:30:55am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

Morning Joe gave Michael Moore 30 minutes to explain to everyone that Dems are not going to take over either chamber.

Good. That’s how you get out the vote, and trick the enemy into not voting.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:31:22am

re: #239 Ming5000

Caught some of Mornin’ Joe and Mika and Joe both said that Dr. Ford had to appear Monday. It was her responsibility. I was pretty shocked at their position.
Joe said something about the R’s gave her the hearing and if she refused then she could be ignored. I had to switch stations.
(of course, this is what I heard … Specifics might be off)

You heard it exactly right — Joe and Mika think now that she’s got the invite for Monday, that’s her one and only chance to speak to the committee, if she doesn’t want to then just wave off the whole thing and go directly to a vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:33:58am
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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:36:08am

re: #249 HappyWarrior

He looks hungover.

He does not look well. All that rage is killing him.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:36:42am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

And no mention of Canada’s capital Ottawa in that paragraph. Wow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:36:48am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:42:49am

re: #253 makeitstop

He does not look well. All that rage is killing him.

All it takes is stressing him enough that he can’t sleep. His already weak mind will fall apart completely. This is probably already happening.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:44:24am

re: #256 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

All it takes is stressing him enough that he can’t sleep. His already weak mind will fall apart completely. This is probably already happening.

Honestly, it can’t happen soon enough for me. I’m done with him and his bullshit.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:44:24am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did Lake Norman overflow and damage the nearby properties? ‘Cause that would give me a smile.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:49:36am

re: #257 makeitstop

Honestly, it can’t happen soon enough for me. I’m done with him and his bullshit.

Same here. I’m tired of being angry from all the terrible things Trump and his associates say and do every single day.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:51:31am

re: #256 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

All it takes is stressing him enough that he can’t sleep. His already weak mind will fall apart completely. This is probably already happening.

The go-to-sleep drugs will keep working. The wake-him-up-enough-to-talk drugs are beginning to fail.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:53:01am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:53:15am

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

THE PRESIDENT: I’m disappointed in the Attorney General for numerous reasons. But we have an Attorney General. I’m disappointed in the Attorney General for many reasons. And you understand that.

“Well, one reason, OK, you know that. The Russia investigation, hoax investigation, Sessions recused. Why’d he do that? Never would have appointed him if he wasn’t going to protect my back. What about Hillary’s emails?”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:54:08am

re: #260 wrenchwench

The go-to-sleep drugs will keep working. The wake-him-up-enough-to-talk drugs are beginning to fail.

I prefer a coma-President to what we have now, as long as the people around him aren’t signing anything in his name.

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CleverToad  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:56:59am

Let’s see if this link will work.
Pete Souza on Instagram
The shade is in the lettering on the rug. The comment is a flat out call out.

Instagram

Attention Mr. Grassley, Mr. McConnell, Mr. Corker, Mr. Graham, Mr. Cornyn and Mr. 46 minus 1: this is Mr. Merrick Garland. Remember him. You held his Supreme Court nomination open for 293 days without a single hearing. During those 293 days, no one came forward with a shred of evidence about anything that would disqualify him. You just didn’t schedule a hearing or vote for purely political reasons. There is now a credible rape allegation against your Court nominee. For a lifetime appointment. Whose nomination has been open only for 71 days. And your plan is to rush a vote on his nomination without an FBI investigation into a sexual assault he may have committed? Because 46 minus 1 says about the FBI, “this is not their thing.” The “I” in FBI stands for “investigation.” Even I (and everyone that works at the White House) had two FBI investigations into my background as the White House photographer, though I had never committed a crime. So you don’t want the FBI to investigate someone for the Supreme Court about a rape allegation? Please explain.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:57:35am

re: #263 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I prefer a coma-President to what we have now, as long as the people around him aren’t signing anything in his name.

The Al Haig moment is just around the bend.

I want to start a PENCE FIRST out of the white house campaign.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:58:27am

re: #263 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I prefer a coma-President to what we have now, as long as the people around him aren’t signing anything in his name.

Who was it that said Coolidge was the best President because he supposedly took a one-hour nap every day, so that was at least one hour he wasn’t screwing everything up?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 9:59:40am

re: #265 wrenchwench

I second the motion.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:03:03am

re: #267 PhillyPretzel

I second the motion.

Two is all it takes to form an organization. We got it started.

/with some credit given to everybody who has been talking about it so far.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:04:46am

re: #261 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

REPUBLICANS: who can be sure about what happened 36 years ago

ALSO REPUBLICANS: when the founding fathers put a comma in this sentence they meant we can have assault rifles

further republicans: what they are doing in the southern border states re denying passport renwals regarding issues from MORE than 36 years ago

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:07:22am

*spit*

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:09:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:10:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:13:47am

moron has done this in the past, several times

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:14:09am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shorter Trump: I’m too fat and lazy to care

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:14:15am
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:15:08am

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:16:20am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Shorter Trump: I’m too fat and lazy to care

The only way I can justify having all this money is if all the poor people are happy. So I hand out sandwiches and paper towels.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:17:02am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*spit*

Yeah, a wall along the Mexican border would have kept the 9/11 hijackers out for sure!

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:17:05am

re: #275 Single-handed sailor

I’m so exasperated with all this winning.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:17:20am

re: #276 MsJ

Personally I would not have given the point for that BS answer. And I wouldn’t have provided all of that space to answer a one word answer.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:17:43am

re: #276 MsJ

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I assume the teacher saw it as a gag and it looks like one to me and decided ha what is one bonus point hurting.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:17:53am

“China is not likely to “substantively reengage” with Trump on trade until the WH gets its “internal house in order,” says former Australian PM and longtime China expert Kevin Rudd.

If translated into Chinese then back to English, it would be “China will not reengage on trade until the WH gets its shit together.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:18:41am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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moron has done this in the past, several times

The judge told Ted Bundy after his sentencing: “Take care of yourself, pardner.” Florida.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:19:37am

re: #280 PhillyPretzel

Personally I would not have given the point for that BS answer. And I wouldn’t have provided all of that space to answer a one word answer.

Not a fucking chance in hell. I would have given it less than zero. It is a horseshit, haha answer which has nothing to do with what is correct.

It actually infuriates me seeing that.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:19:45am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

I assume the teacher saw it as a gag and it looks like one to me and decided ha what is one bonus point hurting.

Same here. I’m going to guess the kid already has a reputation as the class clown/snarkmeister and does exceptionally well in the creative writing portion of English class.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:20:08am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The FBI is very corrupt, my crowning glory will be to destroy it.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:20:23am

re: #285 Interesting Times

Same here. I’m going to guess the kid already has a reputation as the class clown/snarkmeister and does exceptionally well in the creative writing portion of English class.

Yeah I read it mocking Trump and the teacher getting a laugh out of it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:20:34am

re: #282 BlueSpotinAL

“China is not likely to “substantively reengage” with Trump on trade until the WH gets its “internal house in order,” says former Australian PM and longtime China expert Kevin Rudd.

If translated into Chinese then back to English, it would be “China will not reengage on trade until the WH gets its shit together.”

Why did I read “reengage” as “renege”, I wonder?

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:22:17am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Yeah I read it mocking Trump and the teacher getting a laugh out of it.

I might have accepted that had this person actually put the word Ottawa in there somewhere and unless I missed it, s/he didn’t, which renders this not funny but sad. And moreso that it was given any credit at all.

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Jay C  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:22:30am

re: #288 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why did I read “reengage” as “renege”, I wonder?

You and me both.
Just the sad, low expectations of the Trump Era, I guess….

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:23:05am

re: #285 Interesting Times

Same here. I’m going to guess the kid already has a reputation as the class clown/snarkmeister and does exceptionally well in the creative writing portion of English class.

ooops.
re: #289 MsJ

I might have accepted that had this person actually put the word Ottawa in there somewhere and unless I missed it, s/he didn’t, which renders this not funny but sad. And moreso that it was given any credit at all.

was meant for you IT.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:23:29am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:24:04am

It is said Trump did something terrible in his father’s funeral. What was that?
(Quora)

If anything Donald Trump has a massive ego yet at the wake for his father recalled his father as “wonderful,” “the best,” “a fine man” who “gave us all a good start,”.Yet at the funeral the eulogy he gave was different as the focus shifted to himself. He began by saying it was the toughest day of his own life. It was ironic, he said, that he’d learned of his father’s death right after reading about the success of his latest project. He then went on about all his other projects and that his father supported each one, he finished the eulogy by noting that on everything he had ever done, Fred knew he would be able to pull it off.

Alice Longworth Roosevelt, the daughter of Teddy Roosevelt, famously and said of her father that he “wanted to be the corpse at every funeral, the bride at every wedding and the baby at every christening.” Presumably, she was overstating her father’s behaviour for effect. But Donald Trump’s performance at his own father’s service proved it was a remarkably accurate description of Donald Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:24:25am

re: #289 MsJ

I might have accepted that had this person actually put the word Ottawa in there somewhere and unless I missed it, s/he didn’t, which renders this not funny but sad. And moreso that it was given any credit at all.

I think you’re being way too critical of an answer given as extra credit imo.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:25:59am

re: #294 HappyWarrior

I think you’re being way too critical of an answer given as extra credit imo.

Teachers have a responsibility to ensure learning. A non answer is not learning. A non answer with the correct response is acceptable.

Teachers are not there to be entertained (a bonus if you have a clever student).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:26:32am

re: #295 MsJ

Teachers have a responsibility to ensure learning. A non answer is not learning. A non answer with the correct response is acceptable.

Teachers are not there to be entertained (a bonus if you have a clever student).

Fair enough.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:30:47am

re: #295 MsJ

Teachers have a responsibility to ensure learning. A non answer is not learning. A non answer with the correct response is acceptable.

Teachers are not there to be entertained (a bonus if you have a clever student).

I think that was drawn with the intention of giving all the teachers a ‘Poke’. Fake news!

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:32:38am
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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:33:18am

re: #285 Interesting Times

Same here. I’m going to guess the kid already has a reputation as the class clown/snarkmeister and does exceptionally well in the creative writing portion of English class.

Man, they didn’t ever have snarkmeisters when I was in school.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:37:01am

re: #299 wrenchwench

Perhaps I’m sympathetic to the kid because it’s totally the sort of thing I would have done.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:40:18am

re: #300 Interesting Times

Perhaps I’m sympathetic to the kid because it’s totally the sort of thing I would have done.

Were you a snarkmeister or a class clown?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:40:31am

re: #292 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Seriously? That image is now seared into my brain. No acid or bleach or ammonia will purge it.

I cry.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:40:58am

re: #300 Interesting Times

Perhaps I’m sympathetic to the kid because it’s totally the sort of thing I would have done.

I have full appreciation for kids (or any learners) having fun because fun cements facts (stated by someone who has been in the training profession for more than 20 years). What pissed me off was any positive response for what is basically an incorrect answer…no matter how funny it was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:44:08am
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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:44:45am

re: #301 wrenchwench

Were you a snarkmeister or a class clown?

The former (that is, there were times when I just couldn’t resist the urge to answer a question in an off-the-wall, unexpected, or non-conformist way. For example - and I don’t recall the context or exactly what sort of assignment it was - we were asked to describe “the best thing that ever happened to you.” Seemed to me that the point was to elicit an assortment of personal anecdotes that conformed to sentimental societal expectations of middle-schoolers. So instead, I answered “Being born in a Democratic country.”)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:45:31am

jfc

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:45:40am

AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH! This fucking moron.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:47:09am

re: #307 MsJ

AAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH! This fucking moron.

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Well you said something more stupid than 57 states end it won’t get the coverage.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:47:56am

re: #203 plansbandc

They’re still here. There wasn’t as much food, so they shrunk down to the lizards we see today. (Yes, this is really a talking point.)

They evolved?

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:50:22am

re: #305 Interesting Times

The former (that is, there were times when I just couldn’t resist the urge to answer a question in an off-the-wall, unexpected, or non-conformist way. For example - and I don’t recall the context or exactly what sort of assignment it was - we were asked to describe “the best thing that ever happened to you.” Seemed to me that the point was to elicit an assortment of personal anecdotes that conformed to sentimental societal expectations of middle-schoolers. So instead, I answered “Being born in a Democratic country.”)

The snark of truth!

Back in the 60s, my best friend’s mom was mildly disapproving of all the 60s things that were happening, and said to my friend, ‘Why can’t you be different, and CONFORM?!?’ I’ve been laughing ever since.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:50:38am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Well you said something more stupid than 57 states end it won’t get the coverage.

the 57 was an actual slip of the tongue

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:51:03am

re: #309 Eventual Carrion

They evolved?

well, de-volved

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:51:04am

re: #309 Eventual Carrion

They evolved?

Yes. All the tens of millions of species we see today developed from the few “kinds” aboard the Ark—evolution at warp speed—but they don’t see the irony. Look up “Baraminology”.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:51:26am

re: #305 Interesting Times

The former (that is, there were times when I just couldn’t resist the urge to answer a question in an off-the-wall, unexpected, or non-conformist way. For example - and I don’t recall the context or exactly what sort of assignment it was - we were asked to describe “the best thing that ever happened to you.” Seemed to me that the point was to elicit an assortment of personal anecdotes that conformed to sentimental societal expectations of middle-schoolers. So instead, I answered “Being born in a Democratic country.”)

My little sister got thrown out of class for spelling relief as Rolaids. Teacher was NOT amused.

Rolaids ‘Spells Relief’ Commercial (1976)

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:51:38am

re: #310 wrenchwench

The snark of truth!

Back in the 60s, my best friend’s mom was mildly disapproving of all the 60s things that were happening, and said to my friend, ‘Why can’t you be different, and CONFORM?!?’ I’ve been laughing ever since.

individuality is just fine.

as long as we all do it together

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:55:14am

re: #315 dangerman

individuality is just fine.

as long as we all do it together

I had an acquaintance who wanted to race me. I said, ‘Sure, where are we going to race to?’ She said, ‘Follow me!’

If I knew then what I know now, I would have said, ‘That’s not how any of this works’.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 10:59:26am

re: #300 Interesting Times

Perhaps I’m sympathetic to the kid because it’s totally the sort of thing I would have done.

Private just because there’s a name in it:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:03:10am
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:04:10am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:05:08am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jeez

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:09:54am

re: #317 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Private just because there’s a name in it:

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i knew an SNL writer back around 76 or 77 or so (not your guy)

and My Favorite Year is a swell, underrated movie

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:13:42am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:14:24am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ewwww. Not just the dating but damn…she was on MSNBC?!?

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:14:32am
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:16:02am

re: #323 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ewwww. Not just the dating but damn…she was on MSNBC?!?

Who knew she was ever someone’s beard. Funny that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:16:09am

re: #60 teleskiguy

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:17:49am

re: #324 MsJ

Confirmed, though “Idiot” shows the definition before the websites about Trump idiocy.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:18:26am

re: #325 MsJ

Yeah no kidding.

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Alephnaught  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:19:20am

#StormAli has now passed over Glasgow, and is heading north-eastwards- and the memes are starting:

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:20:11am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:21:44am

re: #329 Alephnaught

Just seen a guy walk oot a shop with chips n cheese. He opened up the lid and the wind blew aw the cheese straight aff it. 😂

Hawd oan tae yer Chips n Cheese folks !#StormAli #Glasgow

I usually see a translate button on foreign-language Tweets.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:21:47am

re: #328 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah no kidding.

And you just KNOW that some of this was involved.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:21:50am

“Asinine stubbornness is the only principle we have left!”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:25:29am

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:26:32am
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mmmirele  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:26:51am

re: #187 dangerman

Where’d they go when the ark landed and the waters receded?

They starved, like everything else, because there were no plants to eat after a year of being submerged in brackish water. ///

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:26:55am

re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To

That’ll help with my dieting.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:28:21am

re: #314 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

My little sister got thrown out of class for spelling relief as Rolaids. Teacher was NOT amused.

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In organic chemistry, we had a quiz whereby we were presented with diagrams of various molecules and asked to name them. I called them “Kevin” “Bill” “James” “Linda” “Nancy” etc.

I got a D on that quiz. Lucky for me, the unit on organic was less than 1/4 of the chemistry grade.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:28:55am

re: #334 I Would Prefer Not To

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awright

we’re gonna need some new rules around here….

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:29:54am
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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:30:46am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:31:12am

re: #337 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’ll help with my dieting.

It’s what I’m here for.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:31:36am

re: #340 Kragar

I hope they’re better than Canada’s Nickleback, but they’re probably not as good as Nickleback UK.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:32:11am

re: #338 sagehen

In organic chemistry, we had a quiz whereby we were presented with diagrams of various molecules and asked to name them. I called them “Kevin” “Bill” “James” “Linda” “Nancy” etc.

I got a D on that quiz. Lucky for me, the unit on organic was less than 1/4 of the chemistry grade.

When I learned that you have a 25% chance of being right with a random guess on multiple choices (if there are 4, better chances when it’s 3) I started making patterns down the answer column.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:32:47am
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:32:57am

$106k raised thus far. Good for this person reaching out to Ford.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:33:18am

re: #336 mmmirele

They starved, like everything else, because there were no plants to eat after a year of being submerged in brackish water. ///

But they had an ark full of food-on-the-hoof…

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:33:29am

Why would a lawyer need to “practice” his responses?

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:33:37am

re: #336 mmmirele

They starved, like everything else, because there were no plants to eat after a year of being submerged in brackish water. ///

well if we’re going there….

then along with this god pre-planting all the fossil evidence and setting the clocks on all the carbon dating so to us today it would look like the earth was millions of years old, it would have been nothing to jolt/cleanse all the plants instantly

and right here is the trouble with all this nonsense
it’s not science or math and doesnt prove anything
it’s not a theory or a hypothesis (both require actual, you know, evidence)
it’s just rhetorical twaddle dressed up as ‘serious’

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:34:02am

re: #342 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s what I’m here for.

I thought that’s what ‘hidden’ tags were here for.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:34:05am

re: #345 jaunte

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He’s going to probably admit it but blame booze and that will be enough for forgiveness.

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SteelPH  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:34:41am

re: #348 jaunte

Why would a lawyer need to “practice” his responses?

To keep his dumb ass from saying something incriminating.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:35:11am

re: #344 wrenchwench

When I learned that you have a 25% chance of being right with a random guess on multiple choices (if there are 4, better chances when it’s 3) I started making patterns down the answer column.

It’s more like 50/50. Usually one answer is really a joke that you can throw out right away, and a little thought will eliminate a second one.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:35:33am

re: #348 jaunte

Why would a lawyer need to “practice” his responses?

My mom used to practice law. I don’t think she ever got it right.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:36:15am

re: #348 jaunte

Why would a lawyer need to “practice” his responses?

Yeah, imagine having to ‘practice’ being truthful.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:36:29am
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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:36:36am

re: #353 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s more like 50/50. Usually one answer is really a joke that you can throw out right away, and a little thought will eliminate a second one.

With my method, you didn’t even have to read the questions. First to hand it in, every time.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:36:42am
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:36:47am

re: #353 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s more like 50/50. Usually one answer is really a joke that you can throw out right away, and a little thought will eliminate a second one.

That assumes you’re reading the questions.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:37:37am

re: #359 Belafon

That assumes you’re reading the questions.

GMTA, and so do ours.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:37:42am

re: #358 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Says the guy thinks he won in a landslide.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:38:30am

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Careful or the first FEMA text will be the 2016 electoral college pic.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:38:48am

re: #346 MsJ

$106k raised thus far. Good for this person reaching out to Ford.

[Embedded content]

They passed their goal in 19 hours from 3,293 good people. That’s a pretty high average-donation.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:39:26am

re: #344 wrenchwench

When I learned that you have a 25% chance of being right with a random guess on multiple choices (if there are 4, better chances when it’s 3) I started making patterns down the answer column.

i had a college roommate who managed to score multiple choice below chance several times

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:39:26am

re: #357 wrenchwench

With my method, you didn’t even have to read the questions. First to hand it in, every time.

I remember a few tests where there really was a pattern, and I knew the material well enough to spot it. Hello 100%!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:40:16am
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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:40:38am

re: #364 dangerman

i had a college roommate who managed to score multiple choice below chance several times

re: #365 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember a few tests where there really was a pattern, and I knew the material well enough to spot it. Hello 100%!

Nice back-to-back combo!

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:40:42am

re: #345 jaunte

[Embedded content]

gee, why is a guy who did nothing wrong ‘practicing’ his responses?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:41:41am

re: #364 dangerman

i had a college roommate who managed to score multiple choice below chance several times

When I was a kid I had to fill Coke and Pepsi machines at a motel I worked at. I had a 50/50 chance to get the right key on the first shot, and rarely got it.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:41:42am

re: #348 jaunte

Why would a lawyer need to “practice” his responses?

clearly, beat me to it

though you went with ‘laywer’

i went with ‘innocent’

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:41:53am

I’m old enough to remember Trump being “praised” for his response to Ford. Now he’s accusing her of making it up. Because of course.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:43:25am

re: #370 dangerman

Innocent and honest would be ideal, but at the very least, a SCOTUS nominee should be a talented lawyer, capable of responding to questions without having to practice.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:43:59am

“Not only am I a criminal, I’m not very smart.”

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:44:37am

re: #358 Kragar

Trump: Democrats “make up lots of stuff

will not one reporter ask “Which democrats? Who are your talking about , sir?”

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:45:56am

Apparently this Democrat plot to sink Kavanaugh has been decades in the making.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:46:04am

re: #365 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I remember a few tests where there really was a pattern, and I knew the material well enough to spot it. Hello 100%!

Just spell ABBACADABA all the way down and you’ll pass.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:47:51am

re: #375 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Apparently this Democrat plot to sink Kavanaugh has been decades in the making.

Everyone knows that George Soros paid Kavanaugh and Judge to do this and told Kavanaugh to spend years building relationships with the GOP and one day he’d be appointed to SCOTUS and then the nomination would collapse.//

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:48:49am

re: #376 Kragar

Just spell ABBACADABA all the way down and you’ll pass.

I tried to spell ‘BARABAJAGAL’ once. went off the paper, missed the desk and landed on the floor

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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:55:54am

re: #375 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Apparently this Democrat plot to sink Kavanaugh has been decades in the making.

Well, after what we pulled with Obama’s birth certificate, this is child’s play.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:57:19am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:57:45am

re: #379 Mike Lamb

Well, after what we pulled with Obama’s birth certificate, this is child’s play.

Going back in time to put birth notices in the Hawaiian papers. More devilish than steamed hams.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:58:08am

re: #379 Mike Lamb

Well, after what we pulled with Obama’s birth certificate, this is child’s play.

Our scam to set up the Russian Trump Tower meeting, and require the whole friggin DJT campaign to join in on it without reporting it to the FBI, was also pretty crafty, if I may say so.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:58:10am

re: #380 Kragar

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The fuck

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:58:58am

His teeth got loose again and they thought he said “Berber” wall.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:59:05am

re: #380 Kragar

[Sure, build a border wall 1700 miles away from your country on another continent, across several other countries. No big deal, right?]

They’re gonna need a whole damn ICEberg.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 11:59:18am

What level of certainty about the nominee’s guilt should drive a senator to vote against that nominee?

my opinion: a credible accusation is enough to withdraw the name and look for someone else

The tragedy here is that the seriousness of the allegations against Kavanaugh and the care with which they deserve to be treated are entirely at odds with the circus of the Trump administration…

It’s a fitting allegation to be leveled under President Donald Trump, a man who does so much harm and is somehow held responsible for nothing.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:00:39pm

re: #386 dangerman

What level of certainty about the nominee’s guilt should drive a senator to vote against that nominee?

my opinion: a credible accusation is enough to withdraw the name and look for someone else

It’s not like he’ll be homeless, at least at first.

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jaunte  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:02:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:02:38pm

re: #388 jaunte

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The GOP wasn’t all crooked assholes then.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:06:02pm

Hell just four years prior to Hill, GOP Senators actually opposed Bork.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:06:25pm
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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:08:22pm

re: #380 Kragar

[Embedded content]

it was not an “odd” suggestion

he had no idea what he was saying because he has no idea where spain is in relation to the sahara

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:09:33pm

re: #392 dangerman

it was not an “odd” suggestion

he had no idea what he was saying because he has no idea where spain is in relation to the sahara

It’s odd that he talked about our wall, which only exists in the imagination of a bigoted narcissist and his brain-dead cult.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:14:37pm

re: #387 Belafon

It’s not like he’ll be homeless, at least at first.

look,
anyone wants to argue that maybe, just maybe stuff he wrote as a highschooler or even early in college may no longer be reflective of his judgement and attitude. i’d be all for that discussion

after he passes the basic human dignity test.

the article says what i mentioned yesterday
this is not reasonable doubt
or preponderance of the evidence
or any other evidentiary standard

it’s a more than credible accusation. so unless it’s 100% totally made up from whole cloth, it by itself is sufficient.

he is not qualified for the court. no, not in strict ‘constitutional’ sense of course.
in the much broader and way more important, how people treat people sense

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:16:10pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

Hell just four years prior to Hill, GOP Senators actually opposed Bork.

to be fair, though, that was all about his judicial philosophy and not because he was a pig

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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:17:00pm

re: #347 sagehen

But they had an ark full of food-on-the-hoof…

So that’s what happened to the dinosaurs! They must have gotten a crop in as they were finishing off the last of the triceratops steaks.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

re: #396 jeffreyw

So that’s what happened to the dinosaurs! They must have gotten a crop in as they were finishing off the last of the triceratops steaks.

paleo diet

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:18:22pm

re: #315 dangerman

individuality is just fine.

as long as we all do it together

Be unique, just like everyone else.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:19:22pm

re: #395 dangerman

to be fair, though, that was all about his judicial philosophy and not because he was a pig

True.

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jeffreyw  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:19:56pm

Lunch is served.

Imgur


Oxtail Soup

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:19:58pm

re: #398 Eventual Carrion

Be unique, just like everyone else.

That was a Dr Pepper commercial a few years ago.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:21:44pm

re: #397 dangerman

paleo diet

Tastes like chicken.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:22:43pm

So the GOP Senate Judicial Committee members are working to prep the prep for his questioning on Monday.

Do they realize what that looks like to anyone outside of Washington DC with half a brain?

Sure are a lot of machinations going on for someone that is so clean and spotless.

11 of the most powerful men in the GOP are needed to get one guy ready for something that shouldn’t be needed for someone so clean that swears he has no idea what she is talking about.

Fishy smell!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:23:12pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:24:52pm

re: #403 ObserverArt

So the GOP Senate Judicial Committee members are working to prep the prep for his questioning on Monday.

Do they realize what that looks like to anyone outside of Washington DC with half a brain?

Sure are a lot of machinations going on for someone that is so clean and spotless.

11 of the most powerful men in the GOP are needed to get one guy ready for something that shouldn’t be needed for someone so clean that swears he has no idea what she is talking about.

Fishy smell!

How Will the Image of 11 Entitled White Men Propping Up a 12th Play in November?

Brett Kavanaugh should be radioactive for Republicans in the midterms—and he’s not going away anytime soon.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:25:35pm

re: #395 dangerman

to be fair, though, that was all about his judicial philosophy and not because he was a pig

was it? I think some might have been for his role in the Saturday night massacre, carrying out an order that Nixon’s attorney general and deputy attorney general both found so outrageous, questionable, possibly illegal, that they resigned rather than do it.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:28:27pm
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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:31:13pm

re: #402 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Tastes like chicken.

has it occurred to anyone that it may be chicken that tastes like everything else

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:31:52pm

re: #408 dangerman

has it occurred to anyone that it may be chicken that tastes like everything else

The chicken came first.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:32:32pm

re: #409 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The chicken came first.

Out of an egg.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:32:33pm

re: #409 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The chicken came first.

The egg would like a word.

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Citizen K  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:32:56pm

No matter the poutys that Trump has over Sessions, you know he’s never actually going to shitcan him. You know why?

Because Sessions does the racism, and does it very well.

Read on the rest of the thread.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:33:06pm

re: #406 sagehen

was it? I think some might have been for his role in the Saturday night massacre, carrying out an order that Nixon’s attorney general and deputy attorney general both found so outrageous, questionable, possibly illegal, that they resigned rather than do it.

I agree. His ethics sunk him too. Arguably the reason why Kavanaugh needed to go even before this.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:33:29pm

re: #406 sagehen

was it? I think some might have been for his role in the Saturday night massacre, carrying out an order that Nixon’s attorney general and deputy attorney general both found so outrageous, questionable, possibly illegal, that they resigned rather than do it.

yes that was part of it

i just meant he wasnt accused of raping anyone or a dui death, or grabbing them, or ……

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:33:53pm

re: #405 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How Will the Image of 11 Entitled White Men Propping Up a 12th Play in November?

I have a funny feeling that Professor Ford could be very important to the upcoming election. Actually she already is.

The way she is being handled by the GOP 11 is making a ton of American women really look at this whole process way more than they were even days ago.

I don’t think Mitch the Masterful was thinking this would bring this much attention.

Anything they do now that looks like it goes against Prof. Ford in an unfair way is going to cost them votes.

And the GOP is notorious for being unfair…they just can’t help themselves.

I’d love to hear some of the backroom talk going on in the GOP. I bet women would be amazed as what is being said.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:35:08pm

re: #415 ObserverArt

I have a funny feeling that Professor Ford could be very important to the upcoming election. Actually she already is.

The way she is being handled by the GOP 11 is making a ton of American women really look at this whole process way more than they were even days ago.

I don’t think Mitch the Masterful was thinking this would bring this much attention.

Anything they do now that looks like it goes against Prof. Ford in an unfair way is going to cost them votes.

And the GOP is notorious for being unfair…they just can’t help themselves.

I’d love to hear some of the backroom talk going on in the GOP. I bet women would be amazed as what is being said.

A lot of pants are being shat.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:35:48pm

re: #409 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The chicken came first.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:38:05pm

re: #415 ObserverArt

I have a funny feeling that Professor Ford could be very important to the upcoming election. Actually she already is.

The way she is being handled by the GOP 11 is making a ton of American women really look at this whole process way more than they were even days ago.

I don’t think Mitch the Masterful was thinking this would bring this much attention.

Anything they do now that looks like it goes against Prof. Ford in an unfair way is going to cost them votes.

And the GOP is notorious for being unfair…they just can’t help themselves.

I’d love to hear some of the backroom talk going on in the GOP.
I bet women would be amazed as what is being said.

aint no wimmen in that room

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:40:34pm

re: #418 dangerman

aint no wimmen in that room

Of course not. It’s men-talk, and they shouldn’t worry their pretty little heads about it.
/

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:58:59pm

re: #409 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The chicken came first.

The egg had to come first.

The way evolution works, the way mutations work, is that at some point a chicken egg was laid by something not-quite-a-chicken. When that egg hatched, that was the first chicken.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:08:12pm

re: #420 sagehen

The egg had to come first.

The way evolution works, the way mutations work, is that at some point a chicken egg was laid by something not-quite-a-chicken. When that egg hatched, that was the first chicken.

Eggs aren’t even part of a conversation about things tasting like chicken. Eggs do not taste like chicken.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:16:34pm

re: #421 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Eggs aren’t even part of a conversation about things tasting like chicken. Eggs do not taste like chicken.

Eggs ARE chicken. At least chicken eggs are.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 7:42:55pm

re: #326 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m very sorry, Joe. That’s all I can say.


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