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Citizen K  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:34:57pm

Got stealthed by the new topic, so might as well place it here too:
No matter the poutys that Trump has over Sessions, you know he’s never actually going to shitcan him. You know why?

Because Sessions does the racism, and does it very well.

Read on the rest of the thread.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:38:20pm

re: #1 Citizen K

Got stealthed by the new topic, so might as well place it here too:
No matter the poutys that Trump has over Sessions, you know he’s never actually going to shitcan him. You know why?

Because Sessions does the racism, and does it very well.

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Read on the rest of the thread.

He just wants more inmates. Do we know if he’s taken or has money invested into private prisons? Or is he merely an authoritarian douche?

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Citizen K  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:42:21pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

He just wants more inmates. Do we know if he’s taken or has money invested into private prisons? Or is he merely an authoritarian douche?

You mean ‘both’ isn’t an option?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:43:10pm

re: #3 Citizen K

You mean ‘both’ isn’t an option?

True

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:44:06pm
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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:45:10pm

re: #3 Citizen K

You mean ‘both’ isn’t an option?

she needs to be an honorary member here:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:45:28pm

re: #5 makeitstop

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Colorado is only going to get bluer.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:47:19pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:47:29pm

Speaking of Colorado, seems someone literally took a shot at a dem candidate there.

Link

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:48:46pm

re: #9 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Speaking of Colorado, seems someone literally took a shot at a dem candidate there.

Link

NRA blames her in 3…2….1.

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Citizen K  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:49:57pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

I mean…why shouldn’t they? It’ll essentially inoculate them from the consequences of electoral defeat in most ways.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:50:56pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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I think this is correct unfortunately. The allegations against Trump mean nothing to them so why should this?

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:57:35pm
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Teukka  Sep 19, 2018 • 12:59:24pm

re: #13 Belafon

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Nice idea. I wonder what effect it may have with mating practices of the mammals etc.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:01:09pm

re: #14 Teukka

Nice idea. I wonder what effect it may have with mating practices of the mammals etc.

Probably none at all. Odds are that the color of a tusk is irrelevant to mating. They just need to be strong for combat.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:04:00pm

re: #15 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Probably none at all. Odds are that the color of a tusk is irrelevant to mating. They just need to be strong for combat.

Unfortunately also, I doubt if Traditional Chinese Medicine cares about the color, either, and that’s the major market for rhino horn.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:06:35pm

so is Trump Penis News a thing now?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:06:44pm

re: #16 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Unfortunately also, I doubt if Traditional Chinese Medicine cares about the color, either, and that’s the major market for rhino horn.

The people doing this seem to believe that it does. Who’s going to snort something that’s the wrong color to try to get their dick hard? It’s going to look like some kind of substitution for the expected product. Sure the expected product doesn’t actually work, but looking different will put at least some of the suckers off of this fake medicine.

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Interesting Times  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:06:55pm

ALERT: Spam, in the dungeon! (though if you look at the dead thread title, the comment comes close to being on topic 😂)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:07:04pm

re: #17 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so is Trump Penis News a thing now?

It was yesterday, but everyone has moved on now.
/

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:07:26pm

Schoolmate says she recalls hearing of alleged Kavanaugh incident

i dont like how they keep using “accuser” instead of ‘Ms Ford’, so i took it out of the title

in any event, i’d like to think its going to get harder and harder to not call anyone else to testify

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:07:45pm

re: #17 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so is Trump Penis News a thing now?

new to who?

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:11:15pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:12:09pm

re: #23 MsJ

From the article:

Only 31 percent of U.S. adults polled said they were in favor of Kavanaugh’s appointment.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:12:54pm

re: #24 MsJ

From the article:

the people have spoken, right mitch?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:13:17pm

re: #18 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The people doing this seem to believe that it does. Who’s going to snort something that’s the wrong color to try to get their dick hard? It’s going to look like some kind of substitution for the expected product. Sure the expected product doesn’t actually work, but looking different will put at least some of the suckers off of this fake medicine.

I hope you’re right, but they could always add lampblack or something. In the 18th Century, Chinese tea merchants would add verdigris to their tea intended for Western markets to make it extra green.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:13:28pm
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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:14:52pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Whoever wins in 2020 may have a chance to appoint as many as 4 justices, especially if they win reelection in 2024. Breyer is 80, Ginsberg is 85, Thomas is 70, and Alito is 68. (And that doesn’t even factor in Roberts’ possible health issues.) The balance of the court can swing pretty quickly.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:16:51pm

re: #21 dangerman

Schoolmate says she recalls hearing of alleged Kavanaugh incident

i dont like how they keep using “accuser” instead of ‘Ms Ford’, so i took it out of the title

in any event, i’d like to think its going to get harder and harder to not call anyone else to testify

I really hope she’s for real.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:16:59pm
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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:17:06pm

re: #27 MsJ

She had no first hand knowledge, meaning she wasn’t in the room. That seems pretty obvious. But hearing about it at the time does kind of matter, especially if she heard it from someone who was in the room.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:17:21pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Whoever wins in 2020 may have a chance to appoint as many as 4 justices, especially if they win reelection in 2024. Breyer is 80, Ginsberg is 85, Thomas is 70, and Alito is 68. (And that doesn’t even factor in Roberts’ possible health issues.) The balance of the court can swing pretty quickly.

Things can change so quickly. Crazy to think that the last four CJs have been Republican appointees.

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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:17:27pm

Those who have flown Business Class, how likely that you were able to access the Airport Lounge upon arrival?

Say you have an early morning arrival and want to refresh yourself in the Airport Lounge first and foremost, is that possible?

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:19:14pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Whoever wins in 2020 may have a chance to appoint as many as 4 justices, especially if they win reelection in 2024. Breyer is 80, Ginsberg is 85, Thomas is 70, and Alito is 68. (And that doesn’t even factor in Roberts’ possible health issues.) The balance of the court can swing pretty quickly.

5. Impeaching Kavanaugh for perjury.

I can dream dammit.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:20:38pm

re: #34 Kragar

5. Impeaching Kavanaugh for perjury.

I can dream dammit.

Good luck getting 67 votes in the Senate for that.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:21:05pm

re: #31 KGxvi

She had no first hand knowledge, meaning she wasn’t in the room. That seems pretty obvious. But hearing about it at the time does kind of matter, especially if she heard it from someone who was in the room.

and if she’s not the only one who heard about it

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:22:01pm

re: #27 MsJ

It’s important to note here: The schoolmate deleted her original post and said she has no first hand knowledge of the incident.

First-hand knowledge is unnecessary. The story was out there at the time. Unless you assume that Dr. Ford, at 15, knew Kavanaugh would be appointed to the SC and decided to spike that by spreading a false rumor—hell, the GOP base probably does believe that—then he should be removed from consideration. As many have said, this is not a trial, it’s a job interview. Can you imagine what the Republicans would say if an employer had to prove a negative story about an applicant “beyond a reasonable doubt” before turning them down?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:22:43pm

re: #34 Kragar

5. Impeaching Kavanaugh for perjury.

I can dream dammit.

I think they must go after him. Otherwise, the next Republican candidate will lie his ass off. My dream is that they threaten to impeach him and he resigns.

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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:24:21pm

Man on the run…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:24:53pm

re: #35 KGxvi

Good luck getting 67 votes in the Senate for that.

It’s not about the 67 votes. Never know what’s going to happen. It’s bringing someone up on charges and letting the world know the facts. If this is done a few times, perhaps the next guy with skeletons will not want to go through the process.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:25:41pm

re: #37 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

First-hand knowledge is unnecessary. The story was out there at the time. Unless you assume that Dr. Ford, at 15, knew Kavanaugh would be appointed to the SC and decided to spike that by spreading a false rumor—hell, the GOP base probably does believe that—then he should be removed from consideration. As many have said, this is not a trial, it’s a job interview. Can you imagine what the Republicans would say if an employer had to prove a negative story about an applicant “beyond a reasonable doubt” before turning them down?

Republicans say a lot of things that hint that they do not understand the concept of time. Thinking Democrats are still racist Conservatives, or that Obama’s birth notice was published so he could run for President for example.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:26:02pm

re: #28 KGxvi

Whoever wins in 2020 may have a chance to appoint as many as 4 justices, especially if they win reelection in 2024. Breyer is 80, Ginsberg is 85, Thomas is 70, and Alito is 68. (And that doesn’t even factor in Roberts’ possible health issues.) The balance of the court can swing pretty quickly.

all it will take is for no other democratic appointed justice to retire before the next democratic president, and then for a gop appointed justice to go, and then, bingo, a liberal majority on the court

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:27:14pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:31:01pm

re: #34 Kragar

5. Impeaching Kavanaugh for perjury.

I can dream dammit.

I’m hanging on to my dream that he resigns from his nomination and never gets another hearing. For the Supreme Court position, at least.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:33:25pm

re: #31 KGxvi

She had no first hand knowledge, meaning she wasn’t in the room. That seems pretty obvious. But hearing about it at the time does kind of matter, especially if she heard it from someone who was in the room.

After Ford had to go into hiding, it’s unlikely anyone is going to want to join her.

This is what Republicanism gives us.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:34:42pm

re: #14 Teukka

Nice idea. I wonder what effect it may have with mating practices of the mammals etc.

They’re turning the rhinos GAYYY!!!11

/alexjones

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:36:27pm

re: #46 makeitstop

They’re turning the rhinos GAYYY!!!11

/alexjones

Or into incels

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:37:17pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:37:28pm

re: #33 electrotek

Those who have flown Business Class, how likely that you were able to access the Airport Lounge upon arrival?

Say you have an early morning arrival and want to refresh yourself in the Airport Lounge first and foremost, is that possible?

They’re there but sometimes not close by.

If you have a lot of time between flights out want to go early, they’re fabulous, especially those overseas. I was in one, I don’t recall which European country I was in, and it was fabulous. Truly so. Great food, liquor, free internet (which was rare then).

Definitely take advantage of you can.

We’re going to Europe next year in business class and are looking forward to taking advantage of those facilities at Heathrow (assuming British Air exists then).

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:38:58pm

re: #39 Kragar

Man on the run…

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Someone from the NRA, no doubt.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:39:14pm

Orrin Hatch needs a punch in the fucking throat.

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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:41:03pm

re: #49 MsJ

They’re there but sometimes not close by.

If you have a lot of time between flights out want to go early, they’re fabulous, especially those overseas. I was in one, I don’t recall which European country I was in, and it was fabulous. Truly so. Great food, liquor, free internet (which was rare then).

Definitely take advantage of you can.

We’re going to Europe next year in business class and are looking forward to taking advantage of those facilities at Heathrow (assuming British Air exists then).

I found a great price for Business Class on Malaysia Airlines from Tokyo to Kuala Lumpur for the week of Thanksgiving for $943 one way. Since it’s an overnight flight, I figured I may as well spend a few hundred more for a quality flight with some decent sleep. The only problem is that it arrives in KL a little after 5am. And I don’t want my friend in KL/Penang to get up too early to pick me up when I could take advantage of the Airport Lounge at KL upon arrival and freshen up with a shower and breakfast at least. Since I am an AAdvantage credit card user, I would certainly hope that I would be able to take advantage of the generous benefits on top of the additional mileage from booking Business Class.

That’s my dilemma. I haven’t flown Business Class since I was 15 with family on AA from DFW to Frankfurt, and that was way back in 2000. And that was a lucky upgrade for us too!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:42:14pm

re: #51 makeitstop

Orrin Hatch needs a punch in the fucking throat.

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Oh it’s all clear now Orrin.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:43:14pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:43:41pm

re: #51 makeitstop

Orrin Hatch needs a punch in the fucking throat.

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I’m not seeing any reports on that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:44:08pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

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The lying media never reports on vinegar based hurricanes.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:45:14pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

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Needs NRO warning. I don’t go there if I can avoid it. (The warning could have come from Sopan.)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:45:41pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

This is unusually wet water that wants to cause trouble for Donald Trump.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:48:25pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

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You’d have it made if it also hailed fair french fries!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:52:06pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:53:01pm
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Kragar  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:53:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:53:55pm

re: #61 MsJ

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Or covering for someone else ho did.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:54:47pm

re: #52 electrotek

I found a great price for Business Class on Malaysia Airlines from Tokyo to Kuala Lumpur for the week of Thanksgiving for $943 one way. Since it’s an overnight flight, I figured I may as well spend a few hundred more for a quality flight with some decent sleep. The only problem is that it arrives in KL a little after 5am. And I don’t want my friend in KL/Penang to get up too early to pick me up when I could take advantage of the Airport Lounge at KL upon arrival and freshen up with a shower and breakfast at least. Since I am an AAdvantage credit card user, I would certainly hope that I would be able to take advantage of the generous benefits on top of the additional mileage from booking Business Class.

That’s my dilemma. I haven’t flown Business Class since I was 15 with family on AA from DFW to Frankfurt, and that was way back in 2000. And that was a lucky upgrade for us too!

I’m AAdvantage, too. It was an American (or partner) lounge I was in.

Do it. Enjoy yourself.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:55:19pm

re: #63 HappyWarrior

Or covering for someone else ho did.

Clarence Thomas.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:55:51pm

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!.

People just will not listen. This is a fucking hoax.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:56:13pm

re: #65 makeitstop

Clarence Thomas.

Yep.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:56:57pm

re: #38 I Would Prefer Not To

I think they must go after him. Otherwise, the next Republican candidate will lie his ass off. My dream is that they threaten to impeach him and he resigns.

the ‘investigation’ will not stop even if they ‘ram’ him through to confirmation
not the legal one, i mean the reporters and journalists…
they will not stop digging

if the case continues to grow and it gets uglier and proof of his lying becomes clearer, there is a good chance they could likely force him out…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:57:35pm

re: #48 gocart mozart

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written by Dennis Prager

*SPIT*

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:57:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:57:56pm

re: #66 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!.

People just will not listen. This is a fucking hoax.

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So if he got the power, it’d be just like when your uncle or brother in law emails you repeatedly easily debunked RW outrages except this would be POTUS doing to anyone with a cell phone.

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dangerman  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:58:19pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

all it will take is for no other democratic appointed justice to retire before the next democratic president, and then for a gop appointed justice to go, and then, bingo, a liberal majority on the court

this has been written about a lot in the last six months or so
the court has not and will not have really ‘swung’ that far to the right

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:58:53pm

re: #70 goddamnedfrank

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Right Clinton was unlikable and shady and Trump isn’t. She’s unlikable to those who get told bs about her.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 1:59:16pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

written by Dennis Prager

*SPIT*

Exactly my thought.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:00:37pm

As we reported here, at the last big Southern Baptist confab in Dallas, the SBers had Pence come and when he mentioned that we (meaning the religious right) were going to get their seat on the Court, that got the biggest response from the crowd (of a few thousand SB leaders), far bigger response than any of the overtly churchy stuff that is normally on the schedule for denomination meetings.

In other words, Kavanaugh was seen as the hill on which the religious right and their friends in the Senate chose as their big accomplishment.

So no wonder the GOP Senators don’t want to give up on Kavanaugh.

As I enter my golden years I can only hope that the generations after me will be smart enough to finally rid this country of the religious millstone.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:00:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:00:43pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

written by Dennis Prager

*SPIT*

I get ads for his stupid “university “ since I have a few friends that like it & him. Le sigh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:01:18pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

written by Dennis Prager

*SPIT*

Would you expect anything else from Prager?

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:03:33pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

So if he got the power, it’d be just like when your uncle or brother in law emails you repeatedly easily debunked RW outrages except this would be POTUS doing to anyone with a cell phone.

Thread.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:06:11pm

Would Prager be okay with people bringing up someone’s support for Republican candidates to discredit a conservative sexual assault victim? I doubt It. In fact I know it.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:07:30pm

Also as an aside. Remember how FEMA was also vilified under the Obama Administration by the right. This is nothing more than the same. Only this time it’s coming from the left. SMDH.

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nines09  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:07:45pm

“Action News Team 45 here. This just in….Car that hit and run a pedestrian was located 15 minutes after witnesses say it ran a red light and never even attempted to stop. Hit in the mishap was 26 year old Imma Fucked, who was luckily not suffering from life threatening injuries from the incident. EMR was quickly on the scene. The car was shortly thereafter found run into a guardrail at the entrance to the interstate a short distance away. The alleged driver was found trapped behind the wheel, unable to escape. Witnesses say there was one person in that vehicle at the time of the impact.”
Susan?
“Well we can certainly look forward to the investigation. But being trapped behind the wheel of a vehicle who had no other passengers in it as it ran a red light and luckily did not kill a pedestrian, does not necessarily mean that the trapped driver was the driver.”
Thanks Susan. We look forward to the investigation….
“In other news…..”

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:08:13pm

scribd.com

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:08:28pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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If Dems take back Congress and the White House, they should enact term limits for SCOTUS and pack it with more Justices. Fight fire with fire.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:08:55pm

Today on Twitter:

Democrats never resign when THEY’RE accused of sexual misconduct!!

Al Franken would like a word.

But what about BILL CLINTON?!?

Hasn’t been President for 17 years. Not running for any office. But Eric Schneiderman resigned as NY AG.

BILL CLINTON!!!

Again, not in office for most of two decades. But, Anthony Weiner ring a bell?

WHATABOUT BILL CLINTON!!!

Not running for anything, not nominated for Supreme Court. Meanwhile, ever heard of Elliot Spitzer?

BILL CLINTON!!!

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BeachDem  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:09:23pm

The Yam: Well, the water is starting to go down now… (and then continues with his “Mr. Congeniality” speech—laughing, clapping. Ugh. He makes me sick to my stomach.

The facts

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:09:24pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Would Prager be okay with people bringing up someone’s support for Republican candidates to discredit a conservative sexual assault victim? I doubt It. In fact I know it.

There are no conservative sexual assault victims. Once they are attacked, they’re immediately and forever known as Democrats. Always.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:09:27pm

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

If Dems take back Congress and the White House, they should enact term limits for SCOTUS and pack it with more Justices. Fight fire with fire.

I’m afraid that would backfire in a terrible way like it did for FDR.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:10:38pm

re: #81 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Also as an aside. Remember how FEMA was also vilified under the Obama Administration by the right. This is nothing more than the same. Only this time it’s coming from the left. SMDH.

Not sure why you’re S’ingYDH. You have far more faith in any agency than i do. Right now at least.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:12:59pm

Here in San Diego county, the number of registered voters declared as Democrat is slowing going up.

Republicans slowly going down.

However, the number of non-declared is rising sharply.

The shocker to me, having just looked at the latest report, is that the number registered as American Independent has climbed considerably.

For those who don’t know, the AI is California’s version of George Wallace’s party. Pat Buchanan supporters, etc.

Indeed, the AI is growing faster than “Libertarian”.

What this tells me is that the racists are coming more out of the closet, not willing to hide in the Republican party as much.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:13:01pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I’m afraid that would backfire in a terrible way like it did for FDR.

I have to agree.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:13:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:14:22pm

re: #90 freetoken

Here in San Diego county, the number of registered voters declared as Democrat is slowing going up.

Republicans slowly going down.

However, the number of non-declared is rising sharply.

The shocker to me, having just looked at the latest report, is that the number registered as American Independent has climbed considerably.

For those who don’t know, the AI is California’s version of George Wallace’s party. Pat Buchanan supporters, etc.

Indeed, the AI is growing faster than “Libertarian”.

What this tells me is that the racists are coming more out of the closet, not willing to hide in the Republican party as much.

Do you think there’s a possibility that many don’t know AIP is Wallace/Buchanansque. Not defending but I thought I did read someone prominent who signed up not knowing that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:14:39pm

re: #87 MsJ

There are no conservative sexual assault victims. Once they are attacked, they’re immediately and forever known as Democrats. Always.

Unless the perp is a Messican….

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:15:39pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Do you think there’s a possibility that many don’t know AIP is Wallace/Buchanansque. Not defending but I thought I did read someone prominent who signed up not knowing that.

I used to not know. Took me some time to figure it out, but that was before the internet became universal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:15:47pm

re: #90 freetoken

Here in San Diego county, the number of registered voters declared as Democrat is slowing going up.

Republicans slowly going down.

However, the number of non-declared is rising sharply.

The shocker to me, having just looked at the latest report, is that the number registered as American Independent has climbed considerably.

For those who don’t know, the AI is California’s version of George Wallace’s party. Pat Buchanan supporters, etc.

Indeed, the AI is growing faster than “Libertarian”.

What this tells me is that the racists are coming more out of the closet, not willing to hide in the Republican party as much.

Is is possible that a number of voters don’t know what the American Independent Party actually is?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:16:09pm

re: #91 MsJ

I have to agree.

It would be disastrous and aid Republican attacks on liberal leaning judges. I understand the desire but it’d be the wrong move and incentivize Republicans too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:16:31pm

re: #90 freetoken

Here in San Diego county, the number of registered voters declared as Democrat is slowing going up.

Republicans slowly going down.

However, the number of non-declared is rising sharply.

The shocker to me, having just looked at the latest report, is that the number registered as American Independent has climbed considerably.

For those who don’t know, the AI is California’s version of George Wallace’s party. Pat Buchanan supporters, etc.

Indeed, the AI is growing faster than “Libertarian”.

What this tells me is that the racists are coming more out of the closet, not willing to hide in the Republican party as much.

What it means to me is that people see “Independent” in the name and check that box, having no idea what it means.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:17:02pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What it means to me is that people see “Independent” in the name and check that box, having no idea what it means.

That was my thought too.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:17:36pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:18:25pm

re: #96 Blind Frog Belly White

Is is possible that a number of voters don’t know what the American Independent Party actually is?

It was an actress, I think. I want to say Amanda Peet, but I don’t remember.

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:19:54pm

Here’s the total of the right wing parties in San Diego, two years apart. The AIP is growing by the amount almost exactly what the GOP is losing.

GOP + AIP, Aug 2016 = 544,608

GOP + AIP, Aug 2018 = 543,294

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:20:43pm

re: #101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It was an actress, I think. I want to say Amanda Peet, but I don’t remember.

Quick google search shows many celebs did this including Sugar Ray Leonard.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:21:25pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Do you think there’s a possibility that many don’t know AIP is Wallace/Buchanansque. Not defending but I thought I did read someone prominent who signed up not knowing that.

Sorry Happy—my last post was meant to reply to this.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:21:59pm

re: #101 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It was an actress, I think. I want to say Amanda Peet, but I don’t remember.

I did not know that she’s American.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:22:23pm

re: #105 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I did not know that she’s American.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:22:38pm

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sorry Happy—my last post was meant to reply to this.

All good.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:22:59pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Quick google search shows many celebs did this including Sugar Ray Leonard.

I almost deleted that, thinking: “No, she’s Canadian!” But that’s the string theorist—no relation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:23:25pm

re: #104 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sorry Happy—my last post was meant to reply to this.

Wondered about that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:24:32pm

re: #109 Blind Frog Belly White

Wondered about that.

I was going uphill and stopped too soon. Not the first time….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:25:33pm

Today is Rango’s 9th Birthday!!

Happy Birthday to my Big Booga, my trail walkin’ buddy, my Puppy Boy, my Big Galoot!!!!!

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Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:25:45pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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In some ways, I think the bigger issue is the impact on stare decisis. I have no doubt that Kavanaugh (or someone equally shitty) will help overturn all sorts of precedents—Roe, Griswold, Obergfell, etc. I’d like to think that when the Court’s ideological balance shifts (which could be sooner than we think), we would see a bunch of cases overturning whatever shit comes from the Roberts court with Kavanaugh. We could have a LOT of major decisions flip flopping in a decade or less. It’s not a good situation in the abstract, and even worse for those personally impacted by the decisions.

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:26:40pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Today is Rango’s 9th Birthday!!

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Happy Birthday to my Big Booga, my trail walkin’ buddy, my Puppy Boy, my Big Galoot!!!!!

Happy Birthday, to your leggy friend!

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:29:54pm

re: #105 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I did not know that she’s American.

Former Quaker, if I remember hearing right.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:30:28pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Today is Rango’s 9th Birthday!!

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Happy Birthday to my Big Booga, my trail walkin’ buddy, my Puppy Boy, my Big Galoot!!!!!

Happy Birthday, Rango!

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freetoken  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:31:15pm

The most important local change has been in the 49th Congressional District.

That is the one that Car Thief has owned for several elections now.

In the past few months, the number of Dems in that district has surpassed Republicans.

Just two years ago, in that district, Republican registration led Democrats by a bit over 8k.

This is why Car Thief figured it would be a good time to get out.

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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:31:30pm

Some gun-toting Texans embrace Democrat’s call for tougher firearm laws

He is now considering the once-unthinkable: voting for a Democratic Senate candidate who wants tougher gun laws.

Martin, 72, has a simple explanation for his change of heart: He is sick of the gun violence plaguing America and his gun-loving state, where 26 worshippers died in a church massacre last year.

“Even as conservative as I am, there has to be a middle ground on guns,” said Martin during an interview on his ranch near the city of Carrizo Springs.

Martin’s nuanced view on firearms - he loves them but wants to see tougher restrictions - is one U.S. Senate candidate Beto O’Rourke hopes is gaining traction in Texas.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:31:43pm

re: #114 Belafon

Former Quaker, if I remember hearing right.

That’s what the article I read says.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:32:08pm

re: #108 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I almost deleted that, thinking: “No, she’s Canadian!” But that’s the string theorist—no relation.

Two Amanda Peet’s? Well why not I’m reading a book the other Rudolf Hess I got at Auschwitz.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:32:45pm

re: #118 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s what the article I read says.

Which made The Whole Nine Yards all the more interesting to watch.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:33:21pm

re: #117 electrotek

Some gun-toting Texans embrace Democrat’s call for tougher firearm laws

Ted Cruz is petrified of people like this. Props to this man seriously.

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BeachDem  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:34:30pm

And all of that water is coming your way. A lot of people don’t know that.

Trust me, fuckface yam—every fucking body knows that—except maybe you.

Gah—I hate that asshole so much.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:35:31pm

re: #122 BeachDem

And all of that water is coming your way. A lot of people don’t know that.

Trust me, fuckface yam—every fucking body knows that—except maybe you.

Gah—I hate that asshole so much.

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Rain? No one can explain that.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:35:35pm
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:36:03pm

re: #122 BeachDem

And all of that water is coming your way. A lot of people don’t know that.

Trust me, fuckface yam—every fucking body knows that—except maybe you.

Gah—I hate that asshole so much.

South Carolina is downhill of North Carolina. Didn’t you know that?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:36:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:36:50pm

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

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Because your ethnicity is irrelevant. You’re just being a prick.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:37:56pm

re: #125 Belafon

South Carolina is downhill of North Carolina. Didn’t you know that?

When the water gets to the south pole, it just runs out. A lot of people don’t know that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:39:20pm

Why am I in such perfect shape even though I eat like Augustus Gloop?//

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:39:22pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I made that mistake when I first registered to vote here in California before changing over to a Democrat.

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BigPapa  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:39:48pm

I still listen to AM radio wingnuts just to keep tabs on talking points and narratives. Probably average 90 minutes a week and get Prager, Medved, Elder, Gallagher, and some of Jay Sekulow’s freakshow, occasionally Levin if I’m driving late.

6AM has always been the local ha’ole guy out of Honolulu on ‘The Mike Buck Show.’ Hawaii is heavily Democratic so there’s not a lot of full nuttery here, most conservatives would be considered RINO’s everywhere else. The show has been more local oriented and somewhat light on the conservative narratives, though Mike would sometimes let a little wingnut out local kine style.

Things have changed. The coordination and messaging you usually hear on the syndicates are now infused in the local guy’s show. Yesterday he had on the local GOP party rep talking up an upcoming Turning Point USA event with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens. They both discussed how brilliant Kirk was because he could communicate to the younger generation and get through to them despite the onslaught of liberal bias in all the schools and local institutions. A total puke fest.

It seems like desperation to me. The GOP talker on the phone spoke about the brilliant Steven Moore from the Heritage Institute (LOL, Foundation you hack). They don’t have their best people out here. A follow on event is a cocktail hour with Candace Owens: tickets are $150 for a two hour event. Oh boy.

What is striking is that the AM Radioplex is essentially and practically speaking a campaign arm of the GOP. You don’t need dark money to drive narratives or attack Dem opponents: the AM Radioplex is doing it for you non-stop. Citizens United is bad, but we are ignoring the massive propaganda campaign running daily for decades on the radio. Of course as soon as this comes up the right wing will go full bonkers pulling every rhetorical ploy possible including the original narrative: the Liberal Media.

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Jay C  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:40:09pm

re: #128 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When the water gets to the south pole, it just runs out. A lot of people don’t know that.

I thought it all drained into the big hole that leads to the core of the Hollow Earth - you know, the one we don’t notice because of all the ice on top of it in Antarctica….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:42:51pm

re: #131 BigPapa

I still listen to AM radio wingnuts just to keep tabs on talking points and narratives. Probably average 90 minutes a week and get Prager, Medved, Elder, Gallagher, and some of Jay Sekulow’s freakshow, occasionally Levin if I’m driving late.

6AM has always been the local ha’ole guy out of Honolulu on ‘The Mike Buck Show.’ Hawaii is heavily Democratic so there’s not a lot of full nuttery here, most conservatives would be considered RINO’s everywhere else. The show has been more local oriented and somewhat light on the conservative narratives, though Mike would sometimes let a little wingnut out local kine style.

Things have changed. The coordination and messaging you usually hear on the syndicates are now infused in the local guy’s show. Yesterday he had on the local GOP party rep talking up an upcoming Turning Point USA event with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens. They both discussed how brilliant Kirk was because he could communicate to the younger generation and get through to them despite the onslaught of liberal bias in all the schools and local institutions. A total puke fest.

It seems like desperation to me. The GOP talker on the phone spoke about the brilliant Steven Moore from the Heritage Institute (LOL, Foundation you hack). They don’t have their best people out here. A follow on event is a cocktail hour with Candace Owens: tickets are $150 for a two hour event. Oh boy.

What is striking is that the AM Radioplex is essentially and practically speaking a campaign arm of the GOP. You don’t need dark money to drive narratives or attack Dem opponents: the AM Radioplex is doing it for you non-stop. Citizens United is bad, but we are ignoring the massive propaganda campaign running daily for decades on the radio. Of course as soon as this comes up the right wing will go full bonkers pulling every rhetorical ploy possible including the original narrative: the Liberal Media.

Kirk is so good with the younger generation that more young people are libertarians than MAGA idiots like Charlie. I have a couple friends who like him but they’re fringe.

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electrotek  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:43:15pm

What’s amusing is that a lot of people who try to convince me to go for the bullshit herbalistic approach and “load of vitamins” to prevent these illnesses from occurring are the usual burner/hippie jackasses that spend more money on Burning Man and its corresponding airfare than they do on regular doctor visits.

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Skip Intro  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:43:54pm

re: #131 BigPapa

I haven’t ignored it. I’ve been screaming about it for a decade now. Same with Fox.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:44:34pm

re: #122 BeachDem

And all of that water is coming your way. A lot of people don’t know that.

Trust me, fuckface yam—every fucking body knows that—except maybe you.

Gah—I hate that asshole so much.

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I could curl up into a ball and die of humiliation every time this moron opens his dumbass pie hole.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:45:13pm

re: #87 MsJ

There are no conservative sexual assault victims. Once they are attacked, they’re immediately and forever known as Democrats. Always.

Or the treatment they got from the cops/hospital/employer/etc turns them into Democrats.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:45:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:46:34pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

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Maybe we should just forget to flush when visiting Republican friends and family.

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BeachDem  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:47:59pm

re: #136 MsJ

I could curl up into a ball and die of humiliation every time this moron opens his dumbass pie hole.

Yeah—it is really getting to me today, even more than usual.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:48:01pm

re: #87 MsJ

There are no conservative sexual assault victims. Once they are attacked, they’re immediately and forever known as Democrats. Always.

It wouldn’t surprise me if that wasn’t true in a way you may have not intended.

If a sexual assault victim is treated the way they usually are by conservatives they probably learn that conservatives are not for them and then become more liberal.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:48:36pm

Image I’ve seen around FB of Zimmerman signing skittles wrappers. Fucker knows what he got away with and flaunts it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:48:50pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Methane is 84 times more potent than carbon dioxide as a greenhouse gas, capable of trapping vastly more heat in the atmosphere.

And the BFR (and Blue Origin’s New Glenn) are going to be burning it—about 20% rich.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:49:41pm

re: #139 HappyWarrior

Maybe we should just forget to flush when visiting Republican friends and family.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:50:19pm

re: #141 ObserverArt

It wouldn’t surprise me if that wasn’t true in a way you may have not intended.

If a sexual assault victim is treated the way they usually are by conservatives they probably learn that conservatives are not for them and then become more liberal.

Irving Kristol called a neoconservative a liberal mugged by reality. I call a liberal someone who doesn’t live in a fantasy world.

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:51:15pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What it means to me is that people see “Independent” in the name and check that box, having no idea what it means.

Isn’t that how a lot of Americans do politics; no idea what any of it means but vote based on the thinnest of reasons?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:51:38pm

re: #146 ObserverArt

Isn’t that how a lot of Americans do politics; no idea what any of it means but vote based on the thinnest of reasons?

Yes.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:51:40pm

re: #81 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Also as an aside. Remember how FEMA was also vilified under the Obama Administration by the right. This is nothing more than the same. Only this time it’s coming from the left. SMDH.

The value and trustworthiness of FEMA is entirely dependent on who’s been put in charge of the agency.

James Lee Witt (Clinton admin; Northridge earthquake, Red River Flood) was really good at the job.
Joe Allbaugh and Michael Brown (GWB admin; Katrina) were not.
Craig Fugate (Obama; Sandy, midwest floods) was really good at the job.
Brock Long (Trump; Maria, Florence) is not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:53:15pm

re: #148 sagehen

The value and trustworthiness of FEMA is entirely dependent on whose been put in charge of the agency.

James Lee Witt (Clinton admin; Northridge earthquake, Red River Flood) was really good at the job.
Joe Allbaugh and Michael Brown (GWB admin; Katrina) were not.
Craig Fugate (Obama; Sandy, midwest floods) was really good at the job.
Brock Long (Trump; Maria, Florence) is not.

Allbaugh and Brown were both Bush loyalists. Fugate iirc was Florida’s emergency services head so he had experience with these sort of things.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:53:33pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

Why did that make me laugh? That definitely made me laugh.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:53:46pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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also unions, campaign finance, voting rights…

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:54:08pm

re: #51 makeitstop

Orrin Hatch needs a punch in the fucking throat.

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And that line forms right here ——> X.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:54:41pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Do you think there’s a possibility that many don’t know AIP is Wallace/Buchanansque. Not defending but I thought I did read someone prominent who signed up not knowing that.

In Alaska, AIP is the secession party. I can sorta see how Californians might feel some sympathy for that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:54:50pm

re: #152 austin_blue

And that line forms right here ——> X.

And then you have to get in line to punch Grassley.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:55:29pm

re: #153 sagehen

In Alaska, AIP is the secession party. I can sorta see how Californians might feel some sympathy for that.

I know but I think people have seriously just saw independent and signed up.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:55:43pm

Since we have a Schwab account, we get the Schwab email newsletter, which I generally ignore. Yesterday’s edition, however, came with this headline:

Wages Are Growing: Should Investors Worry?

This is the kind of thing that makes me think of tumbrils and Mme DeFarge….

The Guillotine, Evremonde! The Guillotine!!
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:57:40pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

Since we have a Schwab account, we get the Schwab email newsletter, which I generally ignore. Yesterday’s edition, however, came with this headline:

This is the kind of thing that makes me think of tumbrils and Mme DeFarge….

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[Embedded image]The Guillotine, Evremonde! The Guillotine!!

They didn’t like it when Obama told them he was the only thing standing between them and the pitchforks, but….

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 2:59:51pm

re: #117 electrotek

Some gun-toting Texans embrace Democrat’s call for tougher firearm laws

People are capable of having minds changed when someone is patient enough to talk to them in real terms and show it is not all a big gun take-away when politicians talk about sensible gun control.

The NRA is all about fear.

Beto has been all about sense.

Said it before. I hope a lot of Democratic candidates are watching Beto. There is a lot to learn from his campaign. He is making inroads in Texas and win or lose he is a great example.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:00:20pm

This is the worst thing I have read in months.

Their bodies are still chained in the back of the van underwater. They have not been recovered yet.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:02:35pm
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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:03:22pm

re: #159 Scottish Dragon

This is the worst thing I have read in months.

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Their bodies are still chained in the back of the van underwater. They have not been recovered yet.

Both were mental health patients with no criminal history. I read that earlier and just about cried. It’s horrific. Tragic and horrific.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:03:43pm

re: #159 Scottish Dragon

This is the worst thing I have read in months.

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Since hearing about this story yesterday, the driving question in my mind is “Why was this transport so urgent that it could not wait until the flooding had stopped?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:03:56pm

re: #159 Scottish Dragon

This is the worst thing I have read in months.

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Their bodies are still chained in the back of the van underwater. They have not been recovered yet.

Not all lives matter I guess.

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fern01  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:06:03pm

re: #9 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Speaking of Colorado, seems someone literally took a shot at a dem candidate there.

Link

She did add, however, that she does not believe her Republican opponent, Rob Woodward, had anything to do with the shooting that took place at her house.

May not be the opponent but could well be one of his supporters. Dems are too nice - she had no need to say this.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:06:06pm

re: #160 Scottish Dragon

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I saw an ThinkProgress piece the other day that touched on stories like this, ones where we’re supposed to feel good that things have worked out without questioning why they were like this in the first place. It should not take a golf magazine looking into your wrongful conviction for justice to be done.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:07:15pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

I saw an ThinkProgress piece the other day that touched on stories like this, ones where we’re supposed to feel good that things have worked out without questioning why they were like this in the first place. It should not take a golf magazine looking into your wrongful conviction for justice to be done.

Kind of like the crowdfunding for people with cancer. Kudos to who help but this should not be happening in the US.

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fern01  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:08:50pm

re: #21 dangerman

Schoolmate says she recalls hearing of alleged Kavanaugh incident

i dont like how they keep using “accuser” instead of ‘Ms Ford’, so i took it out of the title

in any event, i’d like to think its going to get harder and harder to not call anyone else to testify

You don’t think the same way as the GOP committee members

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:09:07pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

I saw an ThinkProgress piece the other day that touched on stories like this, ones where we’re supposed to feel good that things have worked out without questioning why they were like this in the first place. It should not take a golf magazine looking into your wrongful conviction for justice to be done.

When Golf Digest and Teen Vogue become the guardians of democracy….

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:12:46pm

re: #159 Scottish Dragon

This is the worst thing I have read in months.

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Their bodies are still chained in the back of the van underwater. They have not been recovered yet.

Did I read the two that were saved climbed out onto the roof and were then saved. And they did that while two handicapped people were chained inside the back of the van.

Chilling. And very troubling.

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austin_blue  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:13:20pm

re: #154 HappyWarrior

And then you have to get in line to punch Grassley.

I’m good with that, too! And Mitch, Cornyn, and Cruz.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:16:09pm

re: #170 austin_blue

I’m good with that, too! And Mitch, Cornyn, and Cruz.

Ditto and Trump and Kavanaugh

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makeitstop  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:18:19pm

re: #169 ObserverArt

Did I read the two that were saved climbed out onto the roof and were then saved. And they did that while two handicapped people were chained inside the back of the van.

Chilling. And very troubling.

Driver and passenger.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:22:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:24:01pm

re: #161 MsJ

Both were mental health patients with no criminal history. I read that earlier and just about cried. It’s horrific. Tragic and horrific.

There are stringent federal regulations for the transport of prisoners, mainly aimed at getting them out in an emergency. Maybe they don’t apply to mental patients.

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fern01  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:24:06pm

re: #51 makeitstop

@OrrinHatch just told 3 different women reporters that rape isn’t cause for keeping a man off the #SCOTUS for life and I am stunned.

That’s a step up from saying “Brett Kavanaugh did not do this”

1. He did not do this
2. It was a long time ago
3. Even if he did it - it was still a long time ago
4. This is no reason to stop the nomination

Actually, it’s 3 steps up from he did not do this

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:24:10pm

re: #159 Scottish Dragon

These deputies should face manslaughter charges at least and definitely should get hit with wrongful death lawsuits. They were responsible for the well-being of those patients.

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danarchy  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:24:50pm

re: #169 ObserverArt

Did I read the two that were saved climbed out onto the roof and were then saved. And they did that while two handicapped people were chained inside the back of the van.

Chilling. And very troubling.

They tried to get the women out of the back but could not open the doors because the water was already high enough that the water pressure prevented the doors from opening. At that point you are not going to get the doors open until the van floods and the pressure equalizes. I don’t blame the drivers, shit happens in natural disasters, if there is any blame to assign it is to whoever ordered them transported in the middle of that shit, or if they were being transferred because of imminent flooding where they were, whoever failed to see the problem coming in time.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:25:19pm

re: #42 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

all it will take is for no other democratic appointed justice to retire before the next democratic president, and then for a gop appointed justice to go, and then, bingo, a liberal majority on the court

Yeah, that’s pretty much how the appointment game has worked with the Supreme Court since… well, forever. It’s entirely plausible that had Clinton won, Kennedy wouldn’t have retired; but perhaps Ginsberg or Breyer would have. It’s become somewhat rare for a justice to retire when a member of the other party has the White House.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:27:17pm

For the record, I’m not going to get in line to punch Hatch, Grassley, or McConnell. They’re probably too old to take a solid punch from me. Cruz and Rubio? They’re probably young enough, though.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:27:45pm

re: #178 KGxvi

Yeah, that’s pretty much how the appointment game has worked with the Supreme Court since… well, forever. It’s entirely plausible that had Clinton won, Kennedy wouldn’t have retired; but perhaps Ginsberg or Breyer would have. It’s become somewhat rare for a justice to retire when a member of the other party has the White House.

Technically Stevens and Souter for Obama but they stopped being seen as Republican judicial picks years ago. Always have Ford credit for defending Stevens as a judge when wingnuts would attack him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:28:18pm

re: #179 KGxvi

For the record, I’m not going to get in line to punch Hatch, Grassley, or McConnell. They’re probably too old to take a solid punch from me. Cruz and Rubio? They’re probably young enough, though.

Sasse could use one too imo.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:28:27pm

re: #175 fern01

That’s a step up from saying “Brett Kavanaugh did not do this”

1. He did not do this
2. It was a long time ago
3. Even if he did it - it was still a long time ago
4. This is no reason to stop the nomination

Actually, it’s 3 steps up from he did not do this

I’m pretty sure attempted rape is a felony, and since there’s no statute of limitions for attempted rape in Maryland, Judge Kavanaugh has been credibly accused of a felony for which he could face charges TODAY.

Hatch should have hung up his spurs a while back, but then he was always shitty.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:30:58pm

re: #182 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m pretty sure attempted rape is a felony, and since there’s no statute of limitions for attempted rape in Maryland, Judge Kavanaugh has been credibly accused of a felony for which he could face charges TODAY.

Hatch should have hung up his spurs a while back, but then he was always shitty.

And now you have Mitt replacing him.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:32:20pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Technically Stevens and Souter for Obama but they stopped being seen as Republican judicial picks years ago. Always have Ford credit for defending Stevens as a judge when wingnuts would attack him.

Ford and HW Bush were probably the last of the old time Republicans. Ford from the small town main street types and HW Bush from the old school blue bloods. They’d be more inclined to nominate “liberal” judges and justices than the conservative movement types.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:35:38pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:36:03pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Today is Rango’s 9th Birthday!!

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Happy Birthday to my Big Booga, my trail walkin’ buddy, my Puppy Boy, my Big Galoot!!!!!

Happy Birthday Sweeto Rango.

More DoRango photos please.

I’ll never give you a break. Even on the Galoot’s B-day. (sorry, not sorry)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:36:10pm

re: #184 KGxvi

Ford and HW Bush were probably the last of the old time Republicans. Ford from the small town main street types and HW Bush from the old school blue bloods. They’d be more inclined to nominate “liberal” judges and justices than the conservative movement types.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:37:28pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

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I know he went to Thad Cochran’s wife’s nursing home to spy on her for Cochran’s primary opponent. That alone says a lot about him.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:37:53pm

re: #175 fern01

That’s a step up from saying “Brett Kavanaugh did not do this”

1. He did not do this
2. It was a long time ago
3. Even if he did it - it was still a long time ago
4. This is no reason to stop the nomination

Actually, it’s 3 steps up from he did not do this

5. We honestly don’t give a shit about this woman, let’s vote!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:38:47pm

re: #84 Patricia Kayden

If Dems take back Congress and the White House, they should enact term limits for SCOTUS and pack it with more Justices. Fight fire with fire.

NO on Term Limits.

What would stop Pence from kicking out every moderate judge when their terms are up and replacing them with Jesusbots?

I think the only way to fix the court is to expand the size from 9 to 15 and put every young liberal woman in a new slot to offset the five Radical RepubliKKKlans.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:39:43pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

And now you have Mitt replacing him.

When was the last time someone held statewide office in two different states?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:41:01pm

This is my greatest meme.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:41:01pm

re: #185 Charles Johnson

[but most people probably don’t know Chuck like you do.]

Thanks for covering that nasty job. Sorry about the name similarity bad luck that may have made you encouraged you to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:41:06pm

re: #191 KGxvi

When was the last time someone held statewide office in two different states?

Good question.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:41:50pm

It seems the only thing that caused the GOP to stumble for a short time was Prof. Ford putting her name to the allegation. Now they’re pretty much back to where they were Monday morning: “Even if this did happen, we don’t care, LET’S VOTE!”

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fern01  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:42:56pm

re: #128 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

When the water gets to the south pole, it just runs out. A lot of people don’t know that.

It runs over the edge - all the good flat earth people know that

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:45:45pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:46:16pm

re: #196 fern01

It runs over the edge - all the good flat earth people know that

That’s crazy-talk. The ice-wall holds it in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:46:55pm

re: #186 Stanley Sea

Happy Birthday Sweeto Rango.

More DoRango photos please.

I’ll never give you a break. Even on the Galoot’s B-day. (sorry, not sorry)

Geez.

Okay - Dory using the ottoman to level the playing field….

My, what a big mouth you have!
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fern01  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:47:25pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Allbaugh and Brown were both Bush loyalists. Fugate iirc was Florida’s emergency services head so he had experience with these sort of things.

Imagine - President Obama picked someone with experience and knowledge suited to the job. Same way he picked someone for the SCOTUS.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:47:37pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

Note that perspective is making Dory look a lot bigger than she actually is!

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ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:47:44pm

re: #195 Targetpractice

It seems the only thing that caused the GOP to stumble for a short time was Prof. Ford putting her name to the allegation. Now they’re pretty much back to where they were Monday morning: “Even if this did happen, we don’t care, LET’S VOTE!”

True.

But there has and continues to be a political price to what they are doing.

I’m hoping it becomes a battle won but a war lost kind of thing when viewed in the long run.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:48:36pm

re: #200 fern01

Imagine - President Obama picked someone with experience and knowledge suited to the job. Same way he picked someone for the SCOTUS.

He did the same thing with his VP too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:50:40pm

re: #190 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO on Term Limits.

What would stop Pence from kicking out every moderate judge when their terms are up and replacing them with Jesusbots?

I think the only way to fix the court is to expand the size from 9 to 15 and put every young liberal woman in a new slot to offset the five Radical RepubliKKKlans.

The SC has been stuck at 9 Justices since 1869. It should be tied to population….

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:50:49pm

re: #179 KGxvi

They’re probably too old to take a solid punch from me.

All the more reason…

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:51:04pm

re: #190 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO on Term Limits.

What would stop Pence from kicking out every moderate judge when their terms are up and replacing them with Jesusbots?

I think the only way to fix the court is to expand the size from 9 to 15 and put every young liberal woman in a new slot to offset the five Radical RepubliKKKlans.

Judicial term limits are dangerous because you could see arbitrary and wild swings in decisions. Lifetime appointments give us some stability, and also prevents states from passing laws they know would otherwise get struck down - with term limits they could time passing otherwise unconstitutional laws in the hopes that the “right” majority would uphold them.

I’m generally agreeable to expanding the size of the Court, I think 13 makes sense - that gives you one justice for each federal circuit. To get any sort of bipartisan consensus you’d probably have to do it where two justices get appointed the year before a presidential election and two the year after.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:51:42pm

re: #160 Scottish Dragon

I think we should propose that all felony convictions should be investigated by a third party regularly.

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Skip Intro  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:52:05pm

re: #206 KGxvi

As long as a Democrat isn’t elected president.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:52:15pm

re: #196 fern01

It runs over the edge - all the good flat earth people know that

Nah, the Wall of Ice™ holds it in.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:52:32pm

GOP: “Kavanaugh deserves the presumption of innocence and an opportunity to plead his case, just as our justice system intends!”

Also GOP: “This is not a criminal matter, so the FBI cannot look into it! This is between two people and we see no need to call other witnesses or gather evidence!”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:52:59pm

re: #198 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s crazy-talk. The ice-wall holds it in.

Teach me to read before I post….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:53:53pm

re: #211 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Teach me to read before I post….

That’s the problem with unthreaded conversations.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:55:12pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:57:43pm

re: #212 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s the problem with unthreaded conversations.

There’s a couple of sites I used to follow that changed to threaded comments. I immediately stopped commenting. I won’t even try to follow a threaded comment page—it’s intolerable.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:58:21pm

re: #204 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The SC has been stuck at 9 Justices since 1869. It should be tied to population….

The House of Representatives used to be tied to population like you’re suggesting. It hasn’t been more than 435 since 1913 (with a few exceptions for when new states were added). If we’re going to add seats anywhere, I think it should be to the House.

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fern01  Sep 19, 2018 • 3:59:56pm

re: #189 Targetpractice

5. We honestly don’t give a shit about this woman, let’s vote!

That is polite compared to what they are saying behind closed doors - but it highlights the attitude. I do wonder how they sleep at night & how any of them have wives and daughters who still support them.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:00:02pm

This is odd. Is this one of the deleted videos by Mark Judge? Go to 2:30 minute mark.

My Subconscious Outtakes

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:00:29pm

re: #214 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There’s a couple of sites I used to follow that changed to threaded comments. I immediately stopped commenting. I won’t even try to follow a threaded comment page—it’s intolerable.

How would it be intolerable? It keeps conversations together, and allows easy collapse of dumb conversations.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:02:28pm

re: #215 KGxvi

The House of Representatives used to be tied to population like you’re suggesting. It hasn’t been more than 435 since 1913 (with a few exceptions for when new states were added). If we’re going to add seats anywhere, I think it should be to the House.

At least there should be 870 votes in the Senate. Each Senator from Wyoming should get one vote and each Senator from California 54, in the extreme cases.

Edit: Or is it 52?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:03:49pm

re: #219 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

At least there should be 870 votes in the Senate. Each Senator from Wyoming should get one vote and each Senator from California 54, in the extreme cases.

I was stunned to see how many states have fewer people than PR and many of them are bright red states.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:03:54pm

re: #218 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

How would it be intolerable? It keeps conversations together, and allows easy collapse of dumb conversations.

Because to see what’s new in each conversation, you have to keep going up and down the page and refreshing constantly.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:06:01pm

re: #219 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

At least there should be 870 votes in the Senate. Each Senator from Wyoming should get one vote and each Senator from California 54, in the extreme cases.

Eh, I get why we have the Senate the way that we do. Even if we had a constitutional convention today, there’s no way that we wouldn’t end up with something substantially similar to what we have now, a bicameral legislature with one house determined by population and one house determined by statehood.

Interestingly, I just went looking on the House of Representatives issue and found this about the so called Wyoming Rule. Seems very reasonable, which of course means it’d never pass Congress.

The Wyoming Rule is a proposal to increase the size of the United States House of Representatives so that the standard representative-to-population ratio would be that of the smallest entitled unit, which is currently Wyoming.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:06:45pm

re: #221 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Because to see what’s new in each conversation, you have to keep going up and down the page and refreshing constantly.

Excellent point. I’m in and out on the sites I use that have threaded comments, so that’s not an issue, but it would suck here.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:08:11pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

I was stunned to see how many states have fewer people than PR and many of them are bright red states.

I wonder what long term effect Irma and Maria had on Puerto Rico’s population.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:09:03pm

re: #224 KGxvi

I wonder what long term effect Irma and Maria had on Puerto Rico’s population.

I’m hoping not a Potato Famine thing where it takes decades to regain loss population.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:10:59pm

re: #193 wrenchwench

Thanks for covering that nasty job. Sorry about the name similarity bad luck that may have made you encouraged you to do it.

It wasn’t the name so much — it was Chuck actually trying to hunt down my address and show up outside where I lived. Luckily he found a very old address, but when he posted those photos of himself standing outside what used to be my apartment building with a big shit-eating grin, he got on my list for all time. And there aren’t many people on that list. Actually, just the one.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:11:45pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

I’m hoping not a Potato Famine thing where it takes decades to regain loss population.

Didn’t Louisiana, or at least New Orleans, see a significant population decrease after Katrina? Mostly in the form of people moving to other states?

I think that might be what happens with Puerto Rico, where a lot of people seem to have relocated to Florida.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:12:05pm

re: #224 KGxvi

I wonder what long term effect Irma and Maria had on Puerto Rico’s population.

It’d be funny—well, not funny Ha-Ha—after the GOP’s resistance to PR’s statehood because they’d vote Democratic, if they drove so many Puerto Ricans to move to Florida for it to become a solid blue state.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:14:45pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

It wasn’t the name so much — it was Chuck actually trying to hunt down my address and show up outside where I lived. Luckily he found a very old address, but when he posted those photos of himself standing outside what used to be my apartment building with a big shit-eating grin, he got on my list for all time. And there aren’t many people on that list. Actually, just the one.

Maybe he came after you because of the name. Good job dealing with your list.

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sagehen  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:23:23pm

re: #224 KGxvi

I wonder what long term effect Irma and Maria had on Puerto Rico’s population.

Hundreds of thousands of Puerto Ricans are now Floridians and Texans… and they HATE!! the R’s. And because they’re new registrations, they won’t be part of anybody’s likely voter database. (the ones who’ve become New Yorkers… won’t alter the blueness at all. But maybe some of them were Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ district? It’s that kind of district.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:26:03pm

re: #229 wrenchwench

Maybe he came after you because of the name. Good job dealing with your list.

Didn’t mean to make light of your actual threat to his twisted agenda.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:28:53pm

re: #227 KGxvi

Didn’t Louisiana, or at least New Orleans, see a significant population decrease after Katrina? Mostly in the form of people moving to other states?

I think that might be what happens with Puerto Rico, where a lot of people seem to have relocated to Florida.

I think so yeah.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:31:07pm

Mueller playing 12 dimensional chess.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:32:13pm

re: #233 MsJ

Mueller playing 12 dimensional chess.

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Mueller’s a seasoned vet. Trump meanwhile doesn’t knwo the difference between a baseball and a beach ball.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:33:18pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

Didn’t mean to make light of your actual threat to his twisted agenda.

No worries, I didn’t think you were.

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:34:57pm

re: #233 MsJ

Mueller playing 12 dimensional chess.

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I’ve been wondering about that. What’s to stop Trump from getting a hold of the records from the plea negotiations and including those admitted crimes in a pardon?

Despite the rules we have in place, ultimately, the Justice Department answers to the president, and if he demands to see them, they’d probably have to turn them over.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:35:56pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

Geez.

Okay - Dory using the ottoman to level the playing field….

[Embedded content]

Thank you.

I know you have a zillion photos I want to see.

Hmmm. A blog about the escapades of DoRango….

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Schweppes7  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:37:09pm

re: #236 KGxvi

I’ve been wondering about that. What’s to stop Trump from getting a hold of the records from the plea negotiations and including those admitted crimes in a pardon?

Despite the rules we have in place, ultimately, the Justice Department answers to the president, and if he demands to see them, they’d probably have to turn them over.

My understanding is that he could then be charged with some of the state-law crimes that he admitted to, which would be outside the scope of Trump’s pardon power.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:39:21pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Mueller’s a seasoned vet. Trump meanwhile doesn’t knwo the difference between a baseball and a beach ball.

If Mueller brings down tRump, I think his picture should go on the $1 bill—what has George Washington done for us lately?

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KGxvi  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:41:15pm

re: #238 Schweppes7

My understanding is that he could then be charged with some of the state-law crimes that he admitted to, which would be outside the scope of Trump’s pardon power.

Right but that’s pretty much standard fare. But state prosecutions wouldn’t normally be covered in a federal plea deal. So I’m just wondering what teeth those provisions have. More likely, it’s a trap for Trump, as it’d likely be seen as an abuse of the pardon power.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:42:01pm

re: #236 KGxvi

I’ve been wondering about that. What’s to stop Trump from getting a hold of the records from the plea negotiations and including those admitted crimes in a pardon?

Despite the rules we have in place, ultimately, the Justice Department answers to the president, and if he demands to see them, they’d probably have to turn them over.

I can only assume it would be really, really bad (treasonous even) for trump and the Republicans. It would not go over well with anyone but the veey small percent of Americans who are trump sycophants.

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:43:20pm

I am experiencing severe JordanRules withdrawal. Come back!

(I miss you, too, Bass.)

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:45:35pm

re: #242 wrenchwench

And I miss Gus.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:47:18pm

re: #242 wrenchwench

I am experiencing severe JordanRules withdrawal. Come back!

(I miss you, too, Bass.)

This!!! This, this and this!!!

9PWX1BiQSW3VUO2v/Kct7NalXSlZ9Car4wNqgPb787Uu9pwHyNxZlgA6RtkBSLHL

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wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:47:20pm

re: #243 PhillyPretzel

And I miss Gus.

Me too, but at least I ‘see’ him on Twitter. Once in a while, I even ‘talk’ to him.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:50:42pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:51:59pm

re: #245 wrenchwench

Me too, but at least I ‘see’ him on Twitter. Once in a while, I even ‘talk’ to him.

Any time he spent here would be time not tweaking wingnuts on Twitter. He does good work out there.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:52:39pm

re: #246 gocart mozart

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The 53 year old Bro.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:54:24pm

re: #237 Stanley Sea

Thank you.

I know you have a zillion photos I want to see.

Hmmm. A blog about the escapades of DoRango….

You mean like this one from a couple seconds later? Shows how Dory attacks with both paws and teeth, versus Rango’s alligator mouth…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 19, 2018 • 4:58:46pm

Because, of course he would

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:06:09pm

re: #250 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Because, of course he would

[Embedded content]

“Trump suggests Legions in Brittania use “pulcherrimum murum magnum” to keep out Celts”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:07:03pm

re: #251 Blind Frog Belly White

“Trump suggests Legions in Brittania use “pulcherrimum murum magnum” to keep out Celts”

He’s going to propose Prima Nocta isn’t he?

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:08:11pm

re: #159 Scottish Dragon

This is the worst thing I have read in months.

Their bodies are still chained in the back of the van underwater. They have not been recovered yet.

A horror scriptwriter could use this as a good starting point for a story.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:09:16pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:09:56pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

He’s going to propose Prima Nocta isn’t he?

Night Of The Living Toad….

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:10:26pm

re: #254 Belafon

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At this rate, Ted’s gonna be forced to show up in his full white sheets before Election Day.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:10:37pm

re: #254 Belafon

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Ted Cruz’s response will be that Beto wants to ban the police. I love O’Rourke man. He’s so genuine and he truly believes and the “justice for all” part of the pledge.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:11:10pm

re: #253 wheat-dogg

A horror scriptwriter could use this as a good starting point for a story.

Sounds like the script of a 70’s B-movie.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:11:54pm

re: #255 Blind Frog Belly White

Night Of The Living Toad….

*Shivers*

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:13:46pm

Fascinating article about Russian interference in the 2016 election.
apple.news

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:13:48pm

re: #253 wheat-dogg

Ghost Story

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:19:04pm

Right. People will just find their dollars don’t go as far as they used to, but they won’t be able to point to any one item as the cause.

Looked at another way, paying these new taxes will be inescapable.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:20:54pm

re: #260 MsJ

That last paragraph…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:21:14pm

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

Right. People will just find their dollars don’t go as far as they used to, but they won’t be able to point to any one item as the cause.

Looked at another way, paying these new taxes will be inescapable.

Shit adds up dumbass. I mean yeah it won’t hurt fat cat assholes like you which is why protectionalism works fine for you but the rest of us. And your tax cut just turns to be a fraud.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:22:42pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:23:55pm

re: #265 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

[Embedded content]

When do we leave?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:24:08pm

re: #249 Blind Frog Belly White

You mean like this one from a couple seconds later? Shows how Dory attacks with both paws and teeth, versus Rango’s alligator mouth…

[Embedded content]

Two decidingly different creatures forced to live together. One old, one young. The story we love. Odd couple-ish.

Bottom line, I bet you and Mrs BFBW laugh your asses off.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:24:53pm

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

Right. People will just find their dollars don’t go as far as they used to, but they won’t be able to point to any one item as the cause.

Looked at another way, paying these new taxes will be inescapable.

“You’re gonna see a huge increase in your take-home pay due to the tax cuts…which you’ll need when the price of everything goes up due to our trade war.”

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BeachDem  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:27:03pm

About the two patients who drowned in the back of the sheriff’s van. Horrifying.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:27:20pm

re: #267 Stanley Sea

Two decidingly different creatures forced to live together. One old, one young. The story we love. Odd couple-ish.

Bottom line, I bet you and Mrs BFBW laugh your asses off.

The way Dory dances on her hind legs to buffet his face with her tiny paws is hilarious! And they steal toys from each other - Dory takes them and scampers through gaps between the couch and sofa, and Rango just takes them and lies down on the floor, letting his big bony legs hold them down.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:27:31pm

re: #268 Targetpractice

“You’re gonna see a huge increase in your take-home pay due to the tax cuts…which you’ll need when the price of everything goes up due to our trade war.”

And that’s not even including health insurance that you won’t be able to afford and won’t cover anything.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:27:35pm

re: #269 BeachDem

About the two patients who drowned in the back of the sheriff’s van. Horrifying.

[Embedded content]

“Get Home”-itis.

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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:28:09pm

re: #269 BeachDem

About the two patients who drowned in the back of the sheriff’s van. Horrifying.

[Embedded content]

In other words, even cops ignore that advice.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:28:15pm

His publicist claims it’s due to his work schedule.
He was re-elected to a 3-year year term last year.

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gocart mozart  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:28:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:29:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:29:20pm

re: #275 gocart mozart

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Because they know he’s toast.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:29:47pm

re: #275 gocart mozart

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Because they had plenty of time with Thomas’ nomination to ditch him and find someone new. Here? They’re trying to beat the clock.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:30:31pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

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It will. And TBH the protectionism failing is a huge strike against making Sanders the standard bearer. Not like we needed another but it’s worth noting.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:30:32pm

re: #264 HappyWarrior

Shit adds up dumbass. I mean yeah it won’t hurt fat cat assholes like you which is why protectionalism works fine for you but the rest of us. And your tax cut just turns to be a fraud.

This guy is Secretary of Commerce? “Spread out over thousands and thousands of products?” If I go to the store and every item has gone up $1, I think I’ll notice the difference between $100 and $200 at checkout time. What are the qualifications for this office again? Like being a horse breeder to run FEMA?

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wheat-dogg  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:31:24pm

re: #278 Targetpractice

Because they had plenty of time with Thomas’ nomination to ditch him and find someone new. Here? They’re trying to beat the clock.

Despite all their prior wailing and gnashing of teeth about naming a SCOTUS justice in an election year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:31:40pm

re: #270 Blind Frog Belly White

The way Dory dances on her hind legs to buffet his face with her tiny paws is hilarious! And they steal toys from each other - Dory takes them and scampers through gaps between the couch and sofa, and Rango just takes them and lies down on the floor, letting his big bony legs hold them down.

The other thing is, Rango has wanted someone to play with since we got him. Kyoko was too old and crotchety, and Zeena ACTED too old and crotchety, like “This isn’t something a lady would do!”

I worried that he was actually angry with Dory, because he vocalizes almost constantly while playing, but then when he wants to stop, he just ignores her.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:31:47pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

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I look at the current economic news and remember all too well the euphoria that gripped the nation in ‘05-‘06. That was the time when the GOP were boasting about all the “good” things that the Bush Tax Cuts and deregulation were doing for the economy.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:32:13pm

re: #271 MsJ

And that’s not even including health insurance that you won’t be able to afford and won’t cover anything.

Terrible food—and such small portions!

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:32:24pm

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

His publicist claims it’s due to his work schedule.
He was re-elected to a 3-year year term last year.

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Selleck is a lifelong Republican and I believe a patriotic American. The Russian funding and constant rah rah after people die had to be weighing in him.

It’s a pussy step to resign and not give a reason though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:36:06pm

re: #283 Targetpractice

I look at the current economic news and remember all too well the euphoria that gripped the nation in ‘05-‘06. That was the time when the GOP were boasting about all the “good” things that the Bush Tax Cuts and deregulation were doing for the economy.

I remember being told that the Bush ‘boom’, for all that it was smaller than Clinton’s, with lower growth and higher unemployment, was a REAL solid expansion, unlike the sugar-high of Clinton’s. “These gains will be PERMANENT, whereas Clinton’s disappeared with the internet stock boom.”

How’d THAT work out for us?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:36:11pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

Just in time for the next President—hopefully a Democrat—to take the blame.

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danarchy  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:37:25pm

re: #265 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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I wasn’t around much yesterday, not sure if this was posted.

Planet Vulcan found

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:38:14pm

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember being told that the Bush ‘boom’, for all that it was smaller than Clinton’s, with lower growth and higher unemployment, was a REAL solid expansion, unlike the sugar-high of Clinton’s. “These gains will be PERMANENT, whereas Clinton’s disappeared with the internet stock boom.”

How’d THAT work out for us?

I remember the tax cut and the extra 150 or so bucks being such a big deal and then they ballooned DoD.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:39:26pm
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:39:39pm

re: #287 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just in time for the next President—hopefully a Democrat—to take the blame fix and receive none of the credit.

FTFY

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:39:40pm

Maybe the responses are algorithmed out but not a single Yes in the entire lot.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:40:14pm

I’ll predict now that, before the book is closed on this story about the mental patients left to die, we’re gonna find out those deputies were close to the end of their shifts and just wanted to “get it done” so they could clock out and go home. That there was a safer route, but they chose to take the quicker route despite it going through areas either known to be flooded or suspected of being so. And when they came upon the barriers, they decided that they’d risk it if it meant shaving even 5 minutes off their drive. Worst-case scenario in their minds is they’d get stuck in the middle of a pond, waiting for a tow truck to come bail their dumb asses out.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:40:18pm

re: #288 danarchy

I wasn’t around much yesterday, not sure if this was posted.

Planet Vulcan found

Somebody linked to Phil Plait’s column—how cool is that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:40:44pm

re: #292 MsJ

Well, I’m married, so…no. Mrs. FBW would not take kindly to it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:40:58pm

re: #292 MsJ

Maybe the responses are algorithmed out but not a single Yes in the entire lot.

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I couldn’t but fortunately for me the circles I run in don’t have a lot of room for Trump supporters.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:41:50pm

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember being told that the Bush ‘boom’, for all that it was smaller than Clinton’s, with lower growth and higher unemployment, was a REAL solid expansion, unlike the sugar-high of Clinton’s. “These gains will be PERMANENT, whereas Clinton’s disappeared with the internet stock boom.”

How’d THAT work out for us?

All Bush did was give people their own money early… Thy pre-return tax refunded some money to spend that was then subtracted from they’re actual refund.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:42:04pm

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I remember the tax cut and the extra 150 or so bucks being such a big deal and then they ballooned DoD.

Oregon originally making their mail-in ballot envelopes prepaid was “buying votes”, but just giving everybody $150—that was OK.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:42:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:43:29pm

re: #299 Charles Johnson

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Which means the next Dem president again will have to clean up a Republican economic mess while being blamed for any economic problems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:44:19pm

re: #292 MsJ

A whole lot of people whose wealth, health, and lives aren’t under threat by Trump are very surprised to find that people who aren’t so lucky, or who care about people who aren’t so lucky, see their vote for Trump as indicating something very unattractive about them.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:45:21pm

re: #269 BeachDem

One of my lifeguard neighbors got his car stuck in a flood in Marion on Monday. Returning home. Trying to get a trailer to tow it back here.

WE WERE LUCKY AS FUCK.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:45:55pm

Shit! Must be time to cut taxes on rich people some more!
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Belafon  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:47:46pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

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Shit! Must be time to cut taxes on rich people some more!
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If you cut back on people’s medicare and social security, they’re going to something, something.

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Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:50:30pm

It’s pretty much an economic inevitability that there will be a contraction in the next 1-2 years. And when it happens, wingnuts will be quick to blame it on Obama. After years of insisting that he had nothing to do with the “Trump Boom,” they’ll insist that he or his underlings are actually engineering a recession to deny Donny a second term. It won’t be that his economic policies are utter shit, it will be yet another “conspiracy” against his “greatness.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:52:11pm

re: #304 Belafon

If you cut back on people’s medicare and social security, they’re going to something, something.

I can’t remember where I read it, but even before Trump someone said that the GOP base would be okay with living under a bridge in a cardboard box, cooking sparrows on a curtain rod, as long as the nonwhite folks in that box over there didn’t have a curtain rod.

Trump’s base will blame somebody else if their benefits fall, and Trump will sell them on the idea that he’s hurting nonwhites more.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:52:30pm

re: #304 Belafon

If you cut back on people’s medicare and social security, they’re going to something, something.

The Olds are turning on Trump and Republicans. They like status quo and stability and are getting none. They didn’t like what the GOP did with the Obamacare vote, even while they might not have liked Obamacare itself, they disliked the process more. Then tax cuts. Then every single day trump speaks.

I read an article today in Bloomberg (or somewhere) on how bad all this is for Republicans. We’ll see how it plays out but if they lose the Olds, the GOP is dead and gone.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:54:12pm

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t remember where I read it, but even before Trump someone said that the GOP base would be okay with living under a bridge in a cardboard box, cooking sparrows on a curtain rod, as long as the nonwhite folks in that box over there didn’t have a curtain rod.

Trump’s base will blame somebody else if their benefits fall, and Trump will sell them on the idea that he’s hurting nonwhites more.

The base: 27% of REPUBLICANS which are only 30% of overall voters.

That’s like 17% of American voters.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:54:55pm

re: #306 Blind Frog Belly White

I can’t remember where I read it, but even before Trump someone said that the GOP base would be okay with living under a bridge in a cardboard box, cooking sparrows on a curtain rod, as long as the nonwhite folks in that box over there didn’t have a curtain rod.

Trump’s base will blame somebody else if their benefits fall, and Trump will sell them on the idea that he’s hurting nonwhites more.

It’s the old LBJ adage about giving someone another group to look down on. That’s the GOP base. You can cut education, infrastructure, health care benefits, etc but as long as you tell them that the gays are ruining this or blah people are that, they’ll be fine.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:56:21pm

re: #292 MsJ

Maybe the responses are algorithmed out but not a single Yes in the entire lot.

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Same

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 5:57:29pm

As far as I’m concerned, our two best Presidential “psychologists”, that is people who understood voters and what made them tick were Nixon and LBJ.

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teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:03:55pm

They’re rubbing it in our faces.

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MsJ  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:04:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:04:58pm

re: #312 teleskiguy

They’re rubbing it in our faces.

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I interviewed for a job with Amnesty International today trying to reunite those families and to help settle refugees. Basically, I’d be a canvasser. Trying to get people to join AI and donate 20 bucks a month.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:05:35pm

re: #313 MsJ

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More we get closer to the finish line the more desperate and sleazy Cruz will be.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:09:03pm

re: #280 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This guy is Secretary of Commerce? “Spread out over thousands and thousands of products?” If I go to the store and every item has gone up $1, I think I’ll notice the difference between $100 and $200 at checkout time. What are the qualifications for this office again? Like being a horse breeder to run FEMA?

Wilbur Ross’ qualifications are that he laundered a lot of money for Russian oligarchs through the Bank of Cyprus.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:11:24pm

re: #316 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Wilbur Ross’ qualifications are that he laundered a lot of money for Russian oligarchs through the Bank of Cyprus.

No, he was an elite NYCer. Member of the club trump wasn’t allowed to join.

The other stuff trump had no idea about.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:12:42pm

re: #317 Stanley Sea

No, he was an elite NYCer. Member of the club trump wasn’t allowed to join.

The other stuff trump had no idea about.

Also a coal kingpin that wasn’t as notorious as Don Blankenship.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:14:34pm

re: #313 MsJ

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I thought that 9-point down poll was a little fishy—and so did Charlie Pierce.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:15:26pm

re: #319 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I thought that 9-point down poll was a little fishy—and so did Charlie Pierce.

The polls have been consistently showing a tight race as do Cruz’s actions.

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BeachDem  Sep 19, 2018 • 6:19:39pm

re: #302 Stanley Sea

One of my lifeguard neighbors got his car stuck in a flood in Marion on Monday. Returning home. Trying to get a trailer to tow it back here.

WE WERE LUCKY AS FUCK.

Yep—I know peeps stuck in Maryland (whose places here are flooded), some in Atlanta, one in Georgia, who took an elderly neighbor with her and the neighbor had to go to the hospital there, one with pneumonia who couldn’t get to the hospital. It’s a total shit show. (But the yam is telling people to have a good time—gahhhh)


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