Stephen has a prediction about the tactics Republicans will use if Dr. Christine Blasey Ford testifies next week.
Charles? Is this true?
How guitar players sometimes see the drummer
What happens to Donald trump when an NFL player kneels in protest against the FBI, just before Kap takes the field for the Patriots?
— Daniel Ballard (@RW_Conspirator) September 21, 2018
how do we know that the kavanaugh doppeganger hasn’t been the one testifying in front of the senate this whole time
— Amanda Hess (@amandahess) September 21, 2018
Considering that Stewart spent the last 3rd of that movie obsessively trying to control a woman’s choices…yeah it fits.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 21, 2018
Initially? Land, sugar and a strategic Atlantic port. More recently cheap semi-offshoring of pharmaceutical and financial companies. Though really during the 1898 US invasion it was really more of a …
… oh wait you didn’t really want an answer did you.— Jonathan M. Katz✍🏻 (@KatzOnEarth) September 20, 2018
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— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) September 21, 2018
A Japanese Probe Is About to Drop Two Hopping Robots Onto Asteroid Ryugu
A Japanese asteroid-sampling probe is about to get up close and personal with its target space rock.
The Hayabusa2 spacecraft will drop two tiny rovers onto the asteroid Ryugu this week, possibly as early as Thursday (Sept. 20), if all goes according to plan.
The Hayabusa2 team began prepping seriously for the epic maneuver last week. The current schedule calls for the mother ship to descend toward Ryugu today (Sept. 19) and for the two little disk-shaped robots, known as MINERVA-II1A and MINERVA-II1B, to deploy as early as tomorrow, U.S. time. (Officials with the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency, or JAXA, have cited Sept. 20 and Sept. 21 for these events, but that’s apparently on Japan time, which is 13 hours ahead of U.S. Eastern Daylight Time.)
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re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg
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re: #9 Amory Blaine
An excellent prequel to a scifi movie in a few years.
re: #6 Ace-o-aces
Dinesh D’Souza
✔
@DineshDSouza
* 12h
Normally colonies provide resources for the nation that rules them. What does Puerto Rico provide the US?Ocasio-Cortez: Puerto Rico is “still a colony” of US https://t.co/ZIIADyImjr pic.twitter.com/3OpznFBNTK
— The Hill (@thehill) September 20, 2018
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No wonder he dated Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter — racists tend to stick together.
If the R’s don’t allow the delay of Ford’s testimony until Thursday and try to to push through the nomination on Monday, they’re fucked. If the FBI doesn’t investigate the accusations, like they did with Anita Hill, they’re fucked.
If anything comes of it (and it will), Kavanaugh cannot claim a “high tech lynching” like Thomas did because he’s a privileged white boy.
Here’s my fantasy:
“Were you a member of an organization euphemistically called “Tit and Clit” at Yale?
Was it also assumed that within that organization, a widely held and reported belief, that “No” meant “Yes”, and “Yes” meant “anal”?”
I just want to hear him answer the question. Those were his homeboys.
re: #11 Unshaken Defiance
An excellent prequel to a scifi movie in a few years.
Aliens show up with hopping robotic war machines, right?
re: #9 Amory Blaine
A Japanese Probe Is About to Drop Two Hopping Robots Onto Asteroid Ryugu
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Navigation Images from the MINERVA-Ⅱ1 deployment operation
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I hope Hayabusa2 has their Corbomite Device ready:
Sister weighs in with my step-father’s condition:
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Elmbrook Church senior pastor resigns due to marital infidelities and ‘serious addiction’
A senior leader of Elmbrook Church, one of the largest churches in Wisconsin, has resigned “due to multiple marital infidelities” and to seek inpatient treatment for an unspecified addiction.
Jason Webb, senior church pastor for four years, announced his departure in a remorseful letter sent to the Elmbrook congregation Wednesday. Webb’s resignation was tendered last week, church officials said.
An interim senior pastor to replace Webb is expected to be chosen as soon as mid-next week by Elmbrook’s council of elders, said Mark Heckman, the church’s executive director of support services.
re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg
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re: #15 Amory Blaine
Blows my mind that about 30 minutes ago this picture was transmitted from 180 million miles away!
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re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg
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re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg
What good juju I can muster, I’ll send your way.
Lunch meeting, Centre Block, Parliament Hill. pic.twitter.com/hS5rgQdPpm
— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) September 21, 2018
This is certainly not the day he became presidential …
Trump questions why Kavanaugh accuser didn’t call the FBI after alleged assault @CNN https://t.co/kD9DrsUHka
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) September 21, 2018
re: #19 Anymouse 🌹
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re: #18 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
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The Hayabusa in WW2 was the KI-43 Japanese fighter plane. In Japanese, it’s the peregrine falcon. It was a Japanese Army aircraft, and it was a damn good fighter, very manuverable, very fast, it’s biggest weakness a lack self-sealing fuel tanks.
In other words, if it got lit up by a US fighter, it burned like a torch.
re: #19 Anymouse 🌹
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re: #27 Anymouse 🌹
This is certainly not the day he became presidential …
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Aren’t some of them a cancer? Though, seriously, Donald, you might ask Ivana what she didn’t after you attacked her.
re: #32 austin_blue
Dear Dog, I wish we had a President like that.
When a picture speaks a thousand words… Nothing but respect for my President🌺❤️ Happy birthday @BarackObama #ObamaDay #ObamaAndKids pic.twitter.com/6FHX4HWL13
— Sadiddy Ruggs III (@luv_poet) August 4, 2018
re: #27 Anymouse 🌹
This is certainly not the day he became presidential …
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Why didn’t a 15 year old call the FBI? JFC
Polls open in eSwatini, where king has absolute rule (Goes to Deutsche Welle, more at the link - eSwantini is the new name for Swaziland):
The tiny African kingdom of eSwatini, formerly Swaziland, was headed to the polls on Friday, for elections that are seen as largely undemocratic.
Political parties are banned from participating in the vote and King Mswati III — one of the world’s last absolute rulers — holds complete control over the parliament and government, as well as the judiciary, civil service and security forces.
In addition to handpicking the prime minister, he can veto legislation and is constitutionally above the law.
re: #33 fern01
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I miss him so much. He actually cared & is a genuinely decent person.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 21, 2018
re: #19 Anymouse 🌹
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re: #38 Ace-o-aces
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You didn’t stand for our country when you violated the law In Central America. Why should we listen to you lecture anyone on patriotism especially when your organization is crooked and pushes Putin bs.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Why didn’t a 15 year old call the FBI? JFC
Because she knew he was a future Supreme Court nominee, silly!
Ok….. It’s late and this is a Ron Jeremy Tweet.
I’m wiping the coffee spray off the monitor now.
@RealRonJeremy Hey look what I found! pic.twitter.com/Cf2fa1HMK5
— Larry Lovelace (@deepthroatxpert) September 21, 2018
Please send it to me. If it’s special to you please keep it. I can find one on eBay I’m sure. I lost mine. I’m not joking. I will send you an autographed photo or something in trade? https://t.co/OkpqGPPhji
— Ron Jeremy (@RealRonJeremy) September 21, 2018
re: #39 ckkatz
Thank you kindly for that piece of information. I will telephone their office tomorrow to see if there is anything they can do. I really appreciate the help of this information.
re: #34 HappyWarrior
Why didn’t a 15 year old call the FBI? JFC
As I understand it, Martha Kavanaugh was fairly high in the Montgomery County, Maryland State legal system. I suspect that even a 15 year old can come to the conclusion regarding the odds of a complaint working out well.
- Assistant State’s Attorney, Montgomery County, 1978-84
- Associate Judge, District Court of Maryland, District 6, Montgomery County, 1993-95.
- Associate Judge, Montgomery County Circuit Court, 6th Judicial Circuit, 1995 to June 2, 2001
It would appear @EdWhelanEPPC has found a Kavanaugh look-alike who MUST be the culprit as all high school girls intellectually sophisticated enough to reach a doctorate would not have the mental acuity to differentiate two teenage boys. #ThursdayThought @POTUS #KavanaughGrab pic.twitter.com/qMHaE8nGdx
— G. Thomas Arkhew (@GTArkhew) September 21, 2018
re: #44 ckkatz
As I understand it, Martha Kavanaugh was fairly high in the Montgomery County, Maryland State legal system. I suspect that even a 15 year old can come to the conclusion regarding the odds of a complaint working out well.
- Assistant State’s Attorney, Montgomery County, 1978-84
- Associate Judge, District Court of Maryland, District 6, Montgomery County, 1993-95.
- Associate Judge, Montgomery County Circuit Court, 6th Judicial Circuit, 1995 to June 2, 2001
Right. She was probably scared. Her word against his and it still is that way. But it shocks me not at all that Trump would victim blame.
re: #38 Ace-o-aces
Why should anyone give a flying fuck about what Oliver Fucking North has to say about literally fucking anything? I’m sorry for the excessive cursing, but WTF?
re: #47 Jason Munro
Why should anyone give a flying fuck about what Oliver Fucking North has to say about literally fucking anything? I’m sorry for the excessive cursing, but WTF?
No need to. I don’t get it either.
Disorientation: A Twitter poemhttps://t.co/CyeEt0RfXj
(about love. and the universe)— Katie Mack (@AstroKatie) September 21, 2018
re: #46 HappyWarrior
Right. She was probably scared. Her word against his and it still is that way. But it shocks me not at all that Trump would victim blame.
I guess what bothers me is not just the calculating, cold blooded callousness of the Republicans. But the fact that they are so public and dismissive. They really do not give a damn about anything or anybody.
Even amoral Machiavelli recognized the need for at least some veneer of moral pretense.
re: #51 ckkatz
I guess what bothers me is not just the calculating, cold blooded callousness of the Republicans. But the fact that they are so public and dismissive. They really do not give a damn about anything or anybody.
Even amoral Machiavelli recognized the need for at least some veneer of moral pretense.
So true. Hatch really revealed a lot about his character the past few days.
Suppose you stop humoring this patently ridiculous bullshit. If Kavanaugh was innocent he’d have welcomed an FBI investigation and be demanding that Mark Judge be subpoenaed to testify under oath.
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
re: #48 HappyWarrior
No need to. I don’t get it either.
Heh, in 1994, when Ollie North tried to run for Senator in Virginia, I put a “South” bumpersticker on my car. I was in good company in Fairfax County.
re: #47 Jason Munro
Why should anyone give a flying fuck about what Oliver Fucking North has to say about literally fucking anything? I’m sorry for the excessive cursing, but WTF?
(Looks around, doesn’t see any excessive cursing)
Ah yes, Oliver North, patriot, Reagan worshiper, went around laws passed by Congress to sell weapons to Iran to funnel money to right wing death squads like the Contras. Yeah, with patriots like that, who needs enemies?
And he has his wingnut sinecure now at the NRA.
The fucking balls on this dude I swear!
It is regrettable that private citizens are being drawn into this. But that is the product of Senator Feinstein’s shockingly shoddy handling of the whole matter.
— Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) September 20, 2018
“I can’t believe Batman made me take these hostages!” -Riddler https://t.co/8qu5qsXx2z
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
I don’t thank Charles enough for the edit button because man am I lazy about proofreading.
re: #48 HappyWarrior
No need to. I don’t get it either.
OMFG I watched the video clip. Why did I do that? Some sort of perverse believe that maybe I was too quick to judge Oliver Fucking North? FUCK. This is too stupid to comment on. I’m going back to lurking because I just can’t handle the insanity that is our current reality.
Ha! H/t to Anne Laurie at Balloon Juice:
Ocasio-Cortez: Puerto Rico is “still a colony” of US https://t.co/ZIIADyImjr pic.twitter.com/3OpznFBNTK
— The Hill (@thehill) September 20, 2018
Normally colonies provide resources for the nation that rules them. What does Puerto Rico provide the US? https://t.co/YVOkEDelB3
— Dinesh D’Souza (@DineshDSouza) September 20, 2018
The problem with being Dinesh D’Souza is that people become habituated to Dinesh D’Souza, so that you have to be more and more extremely Dinesh D’Souza for people to notice you as Dinesh D’Souza.https://t.co/9tTWVjOTr8
— SupersedingHat (@Popehat) September 20, 2018
re: #58 goddamnedfrank
That’s why I don’t let threads auto-update. I give people time to fix typos and bad cut/pastes, because I need two tries for way too many posts.
And I’m off for the rack.
Brexit seems to be more dicey every day, doesn’t it? It looks like the UK’s economy is going to get fucked right up the patootie!
How can they keep this from happening, hmm? Maybe by noting that the original vote was a NON-BINDING referendum?!?!
Look, my wife and I go to the UK every year to visit my wife’s sister and our brother-in-law (a founding member of Silly Wizard, ensconced in the Scottish Trad Hall Of Fame) who live north of London in the unfortunately named village of Leighton Buzzard. Lots of ancient buildings, a Market Cross, and a Parish Church built in 1277 with a 190 foot steeple.
We then head north to the Edinburgh International Harp Festival where She Who Must Be Obeyed has her best week of the year, playing and laughing with her peers. She’s a hell of a musician, Eastman trained, and her crossover into Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Cornish/Brittany/Basque styles of harping, all Celtic, by the way at their roots, makes her a better player. It’s great for her, and I get to drink excellent beer and scotch.
Brexit will likely mean that we will have to cross a border when we travel from England to Scotland. The Scots will leave the UK. Edinburgh will replace London as the banking center on the island. They’ll adopt the Euro as their currency.
It will be an absolute disaster for England.
And all of this could be avoided if the UK government just said “Stop! We aren’t going to do this! What were we thinking? This is just stupid!”
They’ve got about two months to do this.
re: #60 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
I don’t know why those top two panels appeared out of nowhere….
re: #58 goddamnedfrank
I don’t thank Charles enough for the edit button because man am I lazy about proofreading.
It’s a model that Twitter should emulate. Yeah, edit the fuck out of your post, but you only have this much time to do it.
Back in the 80s when he was just a rapey teen they had a word for people like him… rhymes with pussies… wait… that was the word. Nevermind.
— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 21, 2018
re: #64 teleskiguy
It’s a model that Twitter should emulate. Yeah, edit the fuck out of your post, but you only have this much time to do it.
They need to get rid of the Nazi’s first, and if they are going to do it they should make the change log to edited tweets viewable / trackable so that editing can’t be use by abusers to gaslight their victims.
re: #67 goddamnedfrank
They need to get rid of the Nazi’s first, and if they are going to do it they should make the change log to edited tweets viewable / trackable so that editing can’t be use by abusers to gaslight their victims.
They must have the technology to distinguish changing a letter here or there (like I have to do more often than not) from wholesale changes like that.
re: #67 goddamnedfrank
They need to get rid of the Nazi’s first, and if they are going to do it they should make the change log to edited tweets viewable / trackable so that editing can’t be use by abusers to gaslight their victims.
Facebook tracks edits. Just sayin’.
re: #62 austin_blue
And I’m off for the rack.
Brexit seems to be more dicey every day, doesn’t it? It looks like the UK’s economy is going to get fucked right up the patootie!
How can they keep this from happening, hmm? Maybe by noting that the original vote was a NON-BINDING referendum?!?!
Look, my wife and I go to the UK every year to visit my wife’s sister and our brother-in-law (a founding member of Silly Wizard, ensconced in the Scottish Trad Hall Of Fame) who live north of London in the unfortunately named village of Leighton Buzzard. Lots of ancient buildings, a Market Cross, and a Parish Church built in 1277 with a 190 foot steeple.
We then head north to the Edinburgh International Harp Festival where She Who Must Be Obeyed has her best week of the year, playing and laughing with her peers. She’s a hell of a musician, Eastman trained, and her crossover into Scottish/Irish/Welsh/Cornish/Brittany/Basque styles of harping, all Celtic, by the way at their roots, makes her a better player. It’s great for her, and I get to drink excellent beer and scotch.
Brexit will likely mean that we will have to cross a border when we travel from England to Scotland. The Scots will leave the UK. Edinburgh will replace London as the banking center on the island. They’ll adopt the Euro as their currency.
It will be an absolute disaster for England.
And all of this could be avoided if the UK government just said “Stop! We aren’t going to do this! What were we thinking? This is just stupid!”
They’ve got about two months to do this.
Wow! That is way cool!
I’ve been listening to Silly Wizard since their music reached the Pittsburgh area back in the mid to late 1970’s. Sadly, iirc several band members passed away in the last few years.
It sounds like the English are slowly beginning to figure how much of the Brexit leadership is tied to Russian interests.
I’ve noticed a trend
Older white lady Trump supporters on twitter with soft focus Sears photo studio avis and monkey sperm bangs sure do have a lot to say.
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
UPDATE: Responding to pressure, Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland says the only NAFTA timeline she’s working toward is the one that will end up delivering the deal that Canada wants. https://t.co/lxwdkm1Kvs @janycemcgregor
— CBC News (@CBCNews) September 20, 2018
re: #72 goddamnedfrank
Now I have to google monkey sperm bangs, you bastard.
Also the first time you edit a tweet it should cost you a dollar, then two, four, exponentially like that, resetting at the beginning of each month.
But then I’m kind of a dick like that.
re: #73 Single-handed sailor
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Now I have to google monkey sperm bangs, you bastard.
You probably shouldn’t.
Letting your buddies frame you for rape to own the libs.
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
re: #46 HappyWarrior
Right. She was probably scared. Her word against his and it still is that way. But it shocks me not at all that Trump would victim blame.
She didn’t even tell her family; because she was 15 and she didn’t want them to know she’d been at a party with no chaperones and kids were drinking.
If Kavanaugh withdraws, I just know I’m going to read his bullshit excuses and run amok with a fire axe….
re: #76 Single-handed sailor
And never Bing image search with safe search off.
Well… that was… interesting…
Lots of pictures of monkeys… and then a picture of Dana Carvey from Wayne’s World. Which kind of ended that search…
So I guess that I’ll leave you with some T-Rex - Bang A Gong
Now what happened?
— Tammy 🌊 (@tmoyer09) September 20, 2018
God…floor plans??? 🤦♀️
— Tammy 🌊 (@tmoyer09) September 20, 2018
I remember when you had to go to the county courthouse to photocopy blueprints of floor plans before you could use them to accuse a private citizen of rape. Folks today have it so easy.
— Anthony Zurcher (@awzurcher) September 21, 2018
Another member of the Dogg family speaks the truth.
Snoop Dogg says Trump supporters are racist–and Kanye West is “right with them” https://t.co/lXYz15a7mA
— Morgan J. Freeman (@mjfree) September 20, 2018
For you history and genealogy buffs:
🇹🇩 The map of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (1867-1918) overlapping the results of the 2014 presidential elections in Romania.
An example of the long term impact of past institutions. pic.twitter.com/3tkroLbJmA— Xavi Ruiz 🎗 (@xruiztru) September 20, 2018
making fifty bucks an hour smoking weed 🤔 pic.twitter.com/peqHE58CIH
— ᴿealfarmacist (@real_farmacist) September 21, 2018
oops, that was supposed to just be Strange Face of Love. try around 19:00
re: #13 austin_blue
If the R’s don’t allow the delay of Ford’s testimony until Thursday and try to to push through the nomination on Monday, they’re fucked. If the FBI doesn’t investigate the accusations, like they did with Anita Hill, they’re fucked.
If anything comes of it (and it will), Kavanaugh cannot claim a “high tech lynching” like Thomas did because he’s a privileged white boy.
Here’s my fantasy:
“Were you a member of an organization euphemistically called “Tit and Clit” at Yale?
Was it also assumed that within that organization, a widely held and reported belief, that “No” meant “Yes”, and “Yes” meant “anal”?”
I just want to hear him answer the question. Those were his homeboys.
I would also like him to answer questions about why a law school professor was telling her female students they needed to “look like a model” if they wanted a clerkship with him. I’d say the odds are good that Kavanaugh has been sleeping with a least some of his clerks.
re: #36 Anymouse 🌹
Polls open in eSwatini, where king has absolute rule (Goes to Deutsche Welle, more at the link - eSwantini is the new name for Swaziland):
So its pretty much Wakanda, politically.
U.S. Is to Blame for Stalemate in Dialogue
Three months have passed since the DPRK-U.S. summit and talks in Singapore and the adoption of the joint statement. The international community wished the DPRK-U.S. joint statement be implemented successfully, the extreme hostile relations between the DPRK and the U.S. that have been the sharpest confrontation be put to an end as soon as possible and durable peace and security be settle in the Korean peninsula and the region.
The dialogue between the DPRK and the U.S. has been stalemated.
The U.S. is totally to blame for the deadlocked DPRK-U.S. negotiations.
The U.S. is stubbornly insisting on the theory of “dismantlement of nukes first” which was rejected in the past DPRK-U.S. dialogues, saying that other issues may be discussed only after the “complete, verifiable and irretrievable dismantlement of nukes” of the DPRK, while failing to show its will for confidence building including the declaration of the end of war which it had already pledged.
The U.S. is demanding unilateral and gangster-like claim forcing the DPRK to act without showing its movement. The conservative politicians of the U.S. are taking the lead in persisting in such gangster-like logic.
For implementation of the DPRK-U.S. joint statement, the U.S. which is the other side should adopt a sincere approach.
The future of the DPRK-U.S. dialogue totally depends on the stand and action of the U.S.
The U.S. should think twice and have an honest and diligent attitude toward the DPRK-U.S. dialogue with sincerity and bold decision.
And this is also beneficial to the U.S.
Ri Hak Nam
I had questions about the complex dimensional topography of Calabi-Yau manifolds, that’s why I found it fascinating to talk about their relevance to Superstring Theory with Flea
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
Friendly reminder to the entire town: Besides your boss, your spouse and your kid, I am the most important name on your call sheet. Delay that call at your own risk.
— Jeff Sneider (@TheInSneider) September 20, 2018
I thought this guy had to be joking, but his responses to comments make it clear he’s a very serious asshole. https://t.co/SillxVHita
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
It seems the latest Batman comic was a little too anatomically correct.
Update: DC Comics will remove Batman’s penis from all future print editions of Batman: Damned. https://t.co/LuZnAhvQYz pic.twitter.com/LDWvnjSDbq
— Polygon (@Polygon) September 20, 2018
re: #38 Ace-o-aces
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re: #94 wheat-dogg
It seems the latest Batman comic was a little too anatomically correct.
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For what’s worth, I’m responsible for the only erect penis with cum shot ever published in a Marvel book. Can anyone guess where?
Good morning Lizards,
I can hardly wait to see what form of stupidness awaits us today.
re: #97 Lupin
Why am I thinking the Merc with a Mouth was near this event?
re: #97 Lupin
For what’s worth, I’m responsible for the only erect penis with cum shot ever published in a Marvel book. Can anyone guess where?
Howard the Duck.
So I see FNC’s new game, you did it too! Complaining about Hirono and DiFi who got campaign money from Senator Carper of Delaware who has since admitted to past domestic abuse.
re: #99 Sufficient unto the day…
Why am I thinking the Merc with a Mouth was near this event?
Nope. I;ll give you a hint: it was in an Epic book.
Man a lot can out last night while I binged Atypical. So quick summary if not a problem?
re: #100 b.d.(my doppelganger did it)
Here it is in the original version:
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Revealed: Russia’s secret plan to help Julian Assange escape from UK https://t.co/moQ5kmuTx1
— The Guardian (@guardian) September 21, 2018
re: #87 Single-handed sailor
oops, that was supposed to just be Strange Face of Love. try around 19:00
Thanks. This tune from Once Upon a Time in Mexico introduced me to Patricia Vonne (Robert Rodriguez’s sister as it turned out).
re: #104 Lupin
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So the long and short of it is this guy Whelan tried to insist Christine Ford misremembered her assailant and the guy they tried to make the fall guy was someone she knew well back then?
More fun and games:
Theresa May to make Brexit statement outside No 10 - live https://t.co/ADjePrMpW0
— The Guardian (@guardian) September 21, 2018
It should have started ten minutes ago, but it was delayed due to power cut at Number 10.
How about that for a metaphor? Action on Europe delayed by a lack of power in Number 10.
Can I just say as a female and an assault survivor, I love the term “rapey?”
I guarantee you ask what that means to any woman and they will get it immediately. We know what those creeps are. We know they are walking a fine line and have an attitude towards women that is, “Give me the right conditions, I’m getting that.”
Other words around assault have been turned into a joke: snowflake, triggered, safe space. It bothers me when they’re used in a flippant way because I experience all of that. But rapey? Brilliant use of the language.
re: #106 Alephnaught
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re: #110 Alephnaught
More fun and games:
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It should have started ten minutes ago, but it was delayed due to power cut at Number 10.
How about that for a metaphor? Action on Europe delayed by a lack of power in Number 10.
May has reached the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.
re: #113 Lupin
May has reached the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.
she is the very model of the modern megalomaniac
Good Morning from California
lol, hi @realDonaldTrump. 🤡
Interesting description coming from the guy who is literally locking up kids like Pennywise. pic.twitter.com/bt49kyGk9Z— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) September 21, 2018
re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
she is the very model of the modern megalomaniac
Another malignant narcissist.
The best parody of her is Private Eye’s page where she is supposedly the headmistress of a school & writes her editorials in the school’s newsletter. Hilarious—and yet indistinguishable from the real May.
re: #113 Lupin
May has reached the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.
She’s giving the statement now, and she appears to be doubling down on the future economic relationship situation, saying that the two options are “a bad deal… I have always said no deal is better than a bad deal.”
Kids of the Washington-area power elite?
No, they were prolly already driving everywhere. Think John Hughes films.— (((Chrysi Cat))) (@chrysicat) September 21, 2018
Always on duty…
(Pic @SwainITV) pic.twitter.com/ro0VDotQ48— Larry the Cat (@Number10cat) September 21, 2018
re: #117 Alephnaught
She’s giving the statement now, and she appears to be doubling down on the future economic relationship situation, saying that the two options are “a bad deal… I have always said no deal is better than a bad deal.”
She is a delusional lunatic. They should put Larry the Cat in charge.
re: #118 Chrysicat
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JFC
Judge Brett Kavanaugh is a fine man, with an impeccable reputation, who is under assault by radical left wing politicians who don’t want to know the answers, they just want to destroy and delay. Facts don’t matter. I go through this with them every single day in D.C.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2018
I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2018
re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg
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re: #94 wheat-dogg
It seems the latest Batman comic was a little too anatomically correct.
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It’s penis week. Hopefully it ends today.
re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC
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Well here he goes. Attacking a 15 year old girl for not immediately calling the cops and making Kavanaugh the real victim. Disgusting but not surprising
re: #15 Amory Blaine
Blows my mind that about 30 minutes ago this picture was transmitted from 180 million miles away!
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I see the Canadian flag there. Them Canadians…. ;-)
re: #118 Chrysicat
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I was in high school 50 years ago…most of us had cars or trucks or *gasp* VW vans.
Steve Lemoine is a weenie
Morning!
Busy day ahead…all kinds of fires to put out for some clients and an oncoming war with ATT over my phone/intent bill. Grrr.
So, it will be hard to keep up with what appears to be a pretty interesting Friday on the political front. Keep the Lizard coverage coming!
Oh yeah…one more thing. The Cleveland Browns won last night and are now 1-1-1 in their first three games. They aren’t great, but they are young (youngest in NFL), talented and they are feisty.
A good way to start a busy day.
By the way, thanks for the cat butt photo Jeffrey.
Because you know nothing about how often men get away with this, right? You’re sick.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 21, 2018
May:
I will not overturn the result of the referendum nor will I break up my country.
I have no doubt that the Scots will take care of that themselves.
That @theresa_may statement in full: EU was rude to me and the UK; I am angry; I don’t understand why they don’t like #ChequersPlan and why they want border in Irish Sea
— Robert Peston (@Peston) September 21, 2018
re: #130 Lupin
May:
I have no doubt that the Scots will take care of that themselves.
one major argument against independence is that it would have left them stranded outside the EU with no guarantee of being accepted ito it.
re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Wake up Theresa I think I got something to say to you
It’s late September and I really should be back in the EU…
Inside Facebook’s Election ‘War Room’
nytimes.com
In case you missed @Theresa_May’s statement, here is a precis. Glad to have been of assistance.#StopBrexit #PeoplesVote pic.twitter.com/9PglsritEZ
— James Barisic 🇪🇺 #FBPE (@jamesmb) September 21, 2018
re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth
I was in high school 50 years ago…most of us had cars or trucks or *gasp* VW vans.
Steve Lemoine is a weenie
Same here, and looking at my youngest and his friends, there may have actually been a higher percentage of us driving back then. I couldn’t wait to drive. He, less so.
ymmv ;)
Are you going to sing the War Song from Duck Soup?
— Ayn Rand Sucks! (@josephebacon) September 21, 2018
re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
one major argument against independence is that it would have left them stranded outside the EU with no guarantee of being accepted ito it.
At this point I only see a last minute cancellation of Brexit or a hard Brexit in store. And in the later case, the Scots will jump ship, and my guess is, with the UK out, the EU will welcome them in. I also think the UK will lose Gibraltar in the process.
re: #138 Lupin
At this point I only see a last minute cancellation of Brexit or a hard Brexit in store. And in the later case, the Scots will jump ship, and my guess is, with the UK out, the EU will welcome them in. I also think the UK will lose Gibraltar in the process.
They should jump ship. The way the Scots were tricked into voting to stay with the EU was sleazy. Sorry Lupin, forgot you were French.
re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
They must have the technology to distinguish changing a letter here or there (like I have to do more often than not) from wholesale changes like that.
The original tweet should be available, and they should provide an indication that it’s been changed. Mabye even a delta feature showing the changes directly.
re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth
JFC
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Also - if it’s down to Trump attacking Professor Ford, Republicans are close to sheer desperation.
re: #89 Big Beautiful Door
So its pretty much Wakanda, politically.
You mean anyone can challenge the king to a fight?
re: #138 Lupin
At this point I only see a last minute cancellation of Brexit or a hard Brexit in store. And in the later case, the Scots will jump ship, and my guess is, with the UK out, the EU will welcome them in. I also think the UK will lose Gibraltar in the process.
that is not given, Spain would not want to set a precedent of a region seceeding and being accepted by the EU (i.e. Catalonia)
re: #138 Lupin
At this point I only see a last minute cancellation of Brexit or a hard Brexit in store. And in the later case, the Scots will jump ship, and my guess is, with the UK out, the EU will welcome them in. I also think the UK will lose Gibraltar in the process.
Not just Scotland. A hard Brexit would make it more likely that Northern Ireland (which also voted for Remain.) re-unifies with the Republic.
re: #135 Alephnaught
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Was it like this?
May…..”I am quitting so you better kiss my ass and give me everything I want”
EU….”Bye, don’t let the door hit you on the way out”
Good morning, here is a reminder that during his hearing, Brett Kavanaugh refused to say whether the the case that upheld the racist, xenophobic Chinese Exclusion Act was wrong. Seriously. https://t.co/HPxPS8Q1YL #StopKavanaugh
— YWCA USA (@YWCAUSA) September 21, 2018
If I smoked weed for an hour, I’d be eating three pizzas and then sleeping for a week.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 21, 2018
re: #144 Alephnaught
Not just Scotland. A hard Brexit would make it more likely that Northern Ireland (which also voted for Remain.) re-unifies with the Republic.
That’s an ugly van of worms since from what I read about NI leave and stay was largely on sectarian grounds. I hope we don’t see a rebooted Troubles.
what a PoS
I made an appalling and inexcusable mistake of judgment in posting the tweet thread in a way that identified Kavanaugh’s Georgetown Prep classmate. I take full responsibility for that mistake, and I deeply apologize for it. I realize that does not undo the mistake.
— Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) September 21, 2018
I’m sure the victim’s attorneys will be totally okay with Whelan’s “apology.” A private citizen’s reputation has been seriously damaged. This could turn out to be the most expensive tweet in history.
— Gorillas Union Local 1118 (@A_Radio_Free_Am) September 21, 2018
Great point. Conservative darling Whelan, who has been spreading homophobic garbage for years, may have penned the most expensive tweet thread in history. Nice going, Ed! https://t.co/y069PrVad5
— Elizabeth de la Vega (@Delavegalaw) September 21, 2018
re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth
Liar.
You act like every other Republican Apparatchik!— Ayn Rand Sucks! (@josephebacon) September 21, 2018
re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
that is not given, Spain would not want to set a precedent of a region seceeding and being accepted by the EU (i.e. Catalonia)
There is that, but given the chaos of a hard Brexit, (which can be viewed a extremely messy secession) they might rather have some of the former UK in the EU, rather than all of it out.
Also, the genie was already out of the bottle as regards Catalonia when the government there declared UDI. If Scotland and/or Northern Ireland were to be admitted back in the EU, what are they going to do? Declare UDI even harder?
Theresa May’s tough guy act is fooling no one. Her deal has disintegrated and she has nothing left but empty threats. We’ve got six weeks of negotiating time left and no proposals on the table. The only feasible option is to give the power back to the people with a new vote.
— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) September 21, 2018
And, of course, Trump himself is quite aware that women don’t actually report sexual assault. He is on tape explaining that he assaults women because he knows they won’t report.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) September 21, 2018
Scenario…
Kavanaugh gets confirmed.
Grand Jury indicts him for attempted rape.
Republican Governor Hogan then says he will pardon him for his youthful indiscretion…
He is only doing this because Republican elected officials were shown to know about this misdirect in advance. He is trying to stave off the obvious collusion between him and elected Republicans - which is more explosive than the content of his misdirect.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 21, 2018
“Her loving parents”
Wait to try and casually pin the blame on her for not telling anyone you malignant orange choad.
Good point here: PM May’s statement was aimed at a domestic audience. The Conservatives will be meeting for a party conference in just over a week, and if she hadn’t made that statement, that conference would be ugly. (It might be ugly anyway, but still…)
1. Stern tone, strong words, demanding respect - not sure rhetoric will do much to change the situation with the EU, but tougher tone will please some in her party, who’ve been demanding more leadership
— Laura Kuenssberg (@bbclaurak) September 21, 2018
You mean like the filings made by Katie Johnson, who you raped when she was 13 years old? #resist #IBelieveChristine #Kavanaugh pic.twitter.com/BOJGOqZn1A
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) September 21, 2018
And just last night, we saw a headline about how WH staff were surprised Donny was keeping quiet about Prof. Ford.
That headline aged well…//////
I mean I remember being that age. It’s a difficult one because physically you’re almost who you are near adulthood but emotionally you’re still a kid. I was the same age as Dr. Ford was when I received my ASD diagnosis fifteen years ago. I was a sophomore. Still very much a scared kid in many ways and definitely reluctant to tell people about that. If I were scared of what people would think of me for having Asperger’s- remember this was the early 2000’s so people weren’t as educated about autism, how the hell do you say “Yes, Brett Kavanaugh, the kid whose mom is a prosecutor attempted to rape me.” Those attacking her decisions in the aftermath. Well let’s just say. I hope to God you or no one you love ever finds themselves in a situation like that.
re: #129 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
you are an ass. I was sexually assaulted at age 9 in about 1970 by a 16 YO neighbor and I didn’t tell anyone until February 2017 when a friend asked me point blank if I’d been assaulted. That was 47 years. Again, you are an ass and you make me want to puke.
— (((Deana “No Permanent Baby Jails” Holmes))) (@mmmirele) September 21, 2018
People talk about details, well, here’s a detail. I didn’t know to tell people, but I was a very angry kid. My assaulter’s mother caught me ripping the wires in his VW Beetle engine compartment one day. I didn’t know much about cars but I knew the Beetle’s engine was in the back because my hippie uncle had one and I was going to town on this guy’s engine. But I couldn’t tell his mom why I was doing it. It was something not discussed in middle-class America at the time.
You say something then, they say what about his future.
You say something now, they say let the past go.
Ain’t a damn person caring about her present.
And man it’s so fucking true too. All this concern about how Ford is “ruining” his life and “destroying” a “good man.” This is someone who obviously still lives with what happened that day. Kavanaugh and Judge? They probably did what they did. Woke up the next day with hangovers and probably a loose recollection of what happened, laughed it off as no big dealer, and carried on with their lives and probably didn’t think at all about Dr. Ford until she accused him.
The folks who are decrying her for keeping quiet are the same ones who look at stories about preppy college students being accused of rape and whine “What about his future?!”
Hmmm… Is this a signal to the DUP to make up with Sinn Fein and get the Northern Ireland assembly back up and running again?
This is an interesting paragraph from the @theresa_may statement. Is she saying no (NI-specific regulatory aspects of the) backstop unless power sharing is restored? pic.twitter.com/EH0bhK8lA2
— Raphael Hogarth (@Raphael_Hogarth) September 21, 2018
As disgusted as I am by all of this bile towards Dr. Ford and everyone saying, “Why didn’t the 15 year-old girl report an attempted rape at a party at a house with underage drinking?”….I want this out. I want people to see this. Because we do not talk about why women don’t report. Everyone assumes the answer is to report and go through the grinder or it never happened and you’re a liar.
Thus, Trump’s tweets.
It happens. We don’t report for a hell of a lot of reasons. I want people to see what happens to women that do.
Morning, Lizards!
So, we decided to go into NYC last night to attend the Feast of St. Gennaro, where we ate just about every type of yummy Italian food and strolled through Little Italy. Lots of fun.
Then I get home and take a quick peek at LGF before bed and see this bullshit ‘the other guy did it’ defense by Ed Whelan. But it took me until just a minute ago to realize that I posted a link to Kathleen Parker’s equally bullshit op-ed from yesterday about a Kavanaugh ‘doppelganger,’ and saw some tweets that Hatch mentioned said bullshit theory in passing a couple of days ago.
This whole story was coordinated by the Kavanaugh, Repubs on the Judiciary Committee, and conservative op-ed spinmeisters at the WaPo. Probably with Trump’s help, given that Kavanaugh has been to the White House for a couple of days running.
But the really surprising thing to me is that all of these supposedly smart people, these conservative thought leaders, thought for a hot minute that any of this would fly.
I can only magine the questions that Harris, Booker, Durbin and Leahy will have lined up for Kavanaugh when he returns for more testimony. If he returns.
And if Ford does decide to come in and testify, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Kavanaugh’s name is suddenly withdrawn from consideration. These mooks fucked it up that badly.
re: #165 Targetpractice
The folks who are decrying her for keeping quiet are the same ones who look at stories about preppy college students being accused of rape and whine “What about his future?!”
“His future!” without giving two damns about her present. It’s fucking rape/attempted not underaged drinking or pot smoking.
You can’t be president of an organization that claims to be interested in ethics.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 21, 2018
re: #170 HappyWarrior
“His future!” without giving two damns about her present. It’s fucking rape not underaged drinking or pot smoking.
Not to be pedantic, but attempted rape. Thank god it didn’t get to actual rape.
re: #171 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
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Seriously. What a fucking dipshit. Sorry that I’m late to this like Makeitstop is. This guy Whelan really stepped in shit.
re: #172 MsJ
Not to be pedantic, but attempted rape. Thank god it didn’t get to actual rape.
Oh I know it is in this case but TP was talking about the actual rape cases like that one wrestler where there was all the whining “Well what about his future” but fair enough.
re: #172 MsJ
Not to be pedantic, but attempted rape. Thank god it didn’t get to actual rape.
“Kidnapping” if we want to prosecute him.
re: #175 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
“Kidnapping” if we want to prosecute him.
The isolating her, turning up to music, and all that is what really disturbs me. It speaks to motive and knowing right from wrong.
re: #176 HappyWarrior
The isolating her, turning up to music, and all that is what really disturbs me. It speaks to motive and knowing right from wrong.
It was premeditated.
re: #178 SteelPH
It was premeditated.
I’m waiting for the next shoe to fall. She can’t have been the only one.
re: #178 SteelPH
It was premeditated.
I think so too. Being drunk doesn’t change that. You don’t lose your entire capacity to reason when you’re drunk.
today’s peevy rant is a takeoff on my general - ‘dont feed the crackpots’ theme
so the republicans are being utter assholes
not just the judiciary committee
others who are weighing in
the evangelicals
the pundits
the helpers
these absurd ideas, explanations, justifications, floorplans?!!….
they are nonsense and everyone, even they, know this
and they know all they have to do is the theater and get through to the last act
my peeve: as opposed to actual crackpots, we - you, me, us, (the sane ones) *have* to give this stuff some legitimacy
we *have* to hear it, read it, analyze it, respond to it, deconstruct and debunk it.
we dont want to
we *shouldn’t* have to
to debase and demote ourselves to this childish, piggish level
and we must
re: #179 Kilroy was here
I’m waiting for the next shoe to fall. She can’t have been the only one.
The only issue with not being the only one is how she is being treated in public, by elected officials. I cannot imagine another woman wanting to come forward…which is republicanism by design.
re: #180 HappyWarrior
I think so too. Being drunk doesn’t change that. You don’t lose your entire capacity to reason when you’re drunk.
Yup. Believe it or not, drunkenness is not how it’s often depicted in fiction.
re: #173 HappyWarrior
Seriously. What a fucking dipshit. Sorry that I’m late to this like Makeitstop is. This guy Whelan really stepped in shit.
And from accounts I’m seeing this morning, Whelan actually convinced himself that this asinine theory he cooked up was actually more plausible than Professor Ford’s charges against Kavanaugh.
That’s a textbook definition of how confirmation bias works, for cryin’ out loud.
If Ford was pissed before, she’s going to come into that hearing room loaded for bear. And all of these entitled old men on the Judiciary Committee - Hatch, Grassley, all of them - are going to rue the day they made the calculation that getting Kavanaugh onto the SC was worth attempting to ruin a woman’s life to get it done.
She. Is. Going. To. Lay. Waste. To. Them. And they will deserve it.
re: #182 MsJ
The only issue with not being the only one is how she is being treated in public, by elected officials. I cannot imagine another woman wanting to come forward…which is republicanism by design.
Which is why they are treating her that way. It is a tactic. It would take someone amazing brave to come out now. Lets hope they do.
re: #78 sagehen
She didn’t even tell her family; because she was 15 and she didn’t want them to know she’d been at a party with no chaperones and kids were drinking.
Yes, and at that time, our culture was totally into “you deserved it because you were drinking” or “you deserved it because you were dressed like that” etc ad nauseum.
And the ever-present “boys will be boys” and “his life shouldn’t be ruined over one ‘mistake’” bullshit.
Been fighting this shit since 1970. Will fight this shit until I die.
re: #183 SteelPH
Yup. Believe it or not, drunkenness is not how it’s often depicted in fiction.
Yep. You still know right from wrong. You’re just more likely to do something risky or stupid.
re: #184 makeitstop
And from accounts I’m seeing this morning, Whelan actually convinced himself that this asinine theory he cooked up was actually more plausible than Professor Ford’s charges against Kavanaugh.
That’s a textbook definition of how confirmation bias works, for cryin’ out loud.
If Ford was pissed before, she’s going to come into that hearing room loaded for bear. And all of these entitled old men on the Judiciary Committee - Hatch, Grassley, all of them - are going to rue the day they made the calculation that getting Kavanaugh onto the SC was worth attempting to ruin a woman’s life to get it done.
She. Is. Going. To. Lay. Waste. To. Them. And they will deserve it.
I hope we get a blue lady wave. Old Republican men need to go the fuck away.
re: #144 Alephnaught
Not just Scotland. A hard Brexit would make it more likely that Northern Ireland (which also voted for Remain.) re-unifies with the Republic.
Breaking up the United Kingdom to own the libs!
re: #164 HappyWarrior
You say something then, they say what about his future.
You say something now, they say let the past go.
Ain’t a damn person caring about her present.And man it’s so fucking true too. All this concern about how Ford is “ruining” his life and “destroying” a “good man.” This is someone who obviously still lives with what happened that day. Kavanaugh and Judge? They probably did what they did. Woke up the next day with hangovers and probably a loose recollection of what happened, laughed it off as no big dealer, and carried on with their lives and probably didn’t think at all about Dr. Ford until she accused him.
how dare he be accused of a crime he (allegedly) committed
i remind the judge and those supporting him:
no one has a right not to be accused
you prevent that by staying out of situations
if you are accused, you have rights to recourse if the accusation was abusive
otherwise it’s the system - or systems at work
no one has protection from vilification in the media
The thing really getting at me are the death threats. Death threats from people who only know Kavanaugh as Trump’s pick for SCOTUS and their way of getting an ideological majority on the bench for the next generation. And they see Dr. Ford as getting in the way of that so they threaten her with her life or release info like the coward who doxxed that would make it easier to do so. Honestly, I hope after this either Kavanaugh gets disbarred or he walks away in shame knowing that no one should ever take him seriously in a federal courtroom ever again. But it’s his own damn fault. He did this and never owned up to it and then became a hypocritical self-righteous asshole who also enjoyed spreading the conspiracy bullshit about Vince Foster not because I think he really believed it but because he knew the Clintons would hate it.
re: #83 wheat-dogg
Another member of the Dogg family speaks the truth.
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I’m reading the book “Behave” by Robert Sapolsky. Wonderful informative master work surveying neurobiology. One of the studies he cites showed where up to 40% of “out groups” (e.g., LGBTQ, women, African Americans) show implicit bias against the others of their group when taking an IAT test. In other words, the culture has inculcated within them a negative tendency toward people just like them. Self-hating might be too extreme a descriptor, but definitely conforming to the dominant cultural prejudices. For me, it explained a lot (like former Sheriff Clark and assorted other assholes.) They have internalized the white society prejudices as true.
I met with the DOJ concerning the declassification of various UNREDACTED documents. They agreed to release them but stated that so doing may have a perceived negative impact on the Russia probe. Also, key Allies’ called to ask not to release. Therefore, the Inspector General…..
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2018
So Trump is backing off his “declassification” of documents. I guess one of his lawyers finally explained to him what “obstruction of justice” means.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) September 21, 2018
re: #193 Ace-o-aces
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Either that or somebody finally gave him the Cliff Notes and told him these documents would only expedite the digging of the hole he’s in, rather than being the silver bullet that he was hoping for.
re: #193 Ace-o-aces
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‘I had a stupid idea which would have possibly gotten people killed, and people who actually know how this shit works told me I was a fucking idiot, so now I’m not going to do that stupid thing.’
Moron.
re: #193 Ace-o-aces
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So now instead of celebrating Trump for his awesome transparency, Lumpy will praise him for valuing national security.
So we’re coming up on the 11am EDT mark, which means we start watching to see where the GOP goes with their “deadline” on Prof. Ford’s testimony. Gonna guess they decide to stamp their feet and say that they’re glad she’s willing to testify, but they’re not budging from holding this on Monday and she has to agree to that or they’re moving on.
re: #196 HappyWarrior
So now instead of celebrating Trump for his awesome transparency, Lumpy will praise him for valuing national security.
Maybe, one day, Hannity will praise Trump for being convicted of collusion with Russia as proof of how great America is.
Greetings, Lizards.
I am a (very long time) lurker. So long ago, I remember when some people described LGF as a “right wing hate site” lol. I had an account but it seemed to get locked - perhaps due to non-use. Having recently changed countries and work I have a new email with which to register. I often lurk and recognise some of your names though you do not know me. I hope that is not too creepy.
I read a lot but am not a prolific commenter. I am not a supporter of Trump, though that is of little value as I am British.
Nice to meet you. I’ll get the beers in.
K
re: #198 Belafon
Maybe, one day, Hannity will praise Trump for being convicted of collusion with Russia as proof of how great America is.
From his neighboring jail cell to Trump? :)
re: #199 Curious Lifeform
Greetings, Lizards.
I am a (very long time) lurker. So long ago, I remember when some people described LGF as a “right wing hate site” lol. I had an account but it seemed to get locked - perhaps due to non-use. Having recently changed countries and work I have a new email with which to register. I often lurk and recognise some of your names though you do not know me. I hope that is not too creepy.
I read a lot but am not a prolific commenter. I am not a supporter of Trump, though that is of little value as I am British.
Nice to meet you. I’ll get the beers in.
K
Welcome! Hold one of those beers for me, I gotta run out for a bit.
re: #199 Curious Lifeform
Greetings, Lizards.
I am a (very long time) lurker. So long ago, I remember when some people described LGF as a “right wing hate site” lol. I had an account but it seemed to get locked - perhaps due to non-use. Having recently changed countries and work I have a new email with which to register. I often lurk and recognise some of your names though you do not know me. I hope that is not too creepy.
I read a lot but am not a prolific commenter. I am not a supporter of Trump, though that is of little value as I am British.
Nice to meet you. I’ll get the beers in.
K
Welcome, Curious Lifeform! I’ll have a porter, tyvm.
OK, I can already see using CL as an abbreviation for a user may get confusing from here on, as in “I was CL’d downstairs.” Old-timers, be careful!
More likely the stuff trump the moron wanted to declassify would have been worse for trump than doing nothing. trump is not a deep thinker and both he and republicans (nunes MEMO!) have proven to hurt them more than help (especially since proven as false). They are all morons.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 21, 2018
re: #195 makeitstop
‘I had a stupid idea which would have possibly gotten people killed, and people who actually know how this shit works told me I was a fucking idiot, so now I’m not going to do that stupid thing.’
Moron.
like trump would give a shit about getting people killed…unless it was himself.
re: #203 wheat-dogg
OK, I can already see using CL as an abbreviation for a user may get confusing from here on, as in “I was CL’d downstairs.” Old-timers, be careful!
You gotta learn the secret handshake to be a member.
re: #189 Ace-o-aces
Breaking up the United Kingdom to own the libs!
I think the Scots may well consider a new independence referendum as Brexit has significantly changed the situation for them, and I would not begrudge them this, and I would understand completely if they vote to go with Europe, and wish them well.
I would feel the same for Northern Ireland, but I believe for historical/emotional reasons, any referendum to detach from the UK and unite with the Republic will fail. The great majority of NI are staunch unionists. I of course may be wrong in this prediction!
K
re: #207 Curious Lifeform
I think the Scots may well consider a new independence referendum as Brexit has significantly changed the situation for them, and I would not begrudge them this, and I would understand completely if they vote to go with Europe, and wish them well.
I would feel the same for Northern Ireland, but I believe for historical/emotional reasons, any referendum to detach from the UK and unite with the Republic will fail. The great majority of NI are staunch unionists. I of course may be wrong in this prediction!
K
Do you see another referendum happening?
I am hoping they don’t blow their own brains out, but man, there is not a single leader in the UK worthy of title Leader.
re: #199 Curious Lifeform
Greetings, Lizards.
I am a (very long time) lurker. So long ago, I remember when some people described LGF as a “right wing hate site” lol. I had an account but it seemed to get locked - perhaps due to non-use. Having recently changed countries and work I have a new email with which to register. I often lurk and recognise some of your names though you do not know me. I hope that is not too creepy.
I read a lot but am not a prolific commenter. I am not a supporter of Trump, though that is of little value as I am British.
Nice to meet you. I’ll get the beers in.
K
differing perspectives are always welcome
as a long time lurker you know not to tip your hand too soon regarding pizza, right?
Thank you for your welcomes! I’m trying to remember the order, one delayed Ale, one Porter, some kind of cocktail called “Secret Handshake”, anything else?
CL was Curious Lurker right? Oh dear that is quite close, maybe I can change my “show” name.
K
re: #204 MsJ
More likely the stuff trump the moron wanted to declassify would have been worse for trump than doing nothing. trump is not a deep thinker and both he and republicans (nunes MEMO!) have proven to hurt them more than help (especially since proven as false). They are all morons.
iow - he shot off his mouth without reading the stuff first
a great quality in a president
re: #211 Curious Lifeform
Thank you for your welcomes! I’m trying to remember the order, one delayed Ale, one Porter, some kind of cocktail called “Secret Handshake”, anything else?
CL was Curious Lurker right? Oh dear that is quite close, maybe I can change my “show” name.
K
She was, and was well known for posting her usual well thought out comments at the end of “dead” threads. Thus, the term “CL’d” for posting something just as a new thread was aborned.
Every single time Dems let Republicans get away with murder (sometimes literally) without doing anything enables more & worse Republican behaviors. From the civil war to Nixon to torture. You cannot let bygones be bygones. here MUST be accountability. Because it only gets worse.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 21, 2018
re: #209 MsJ
Do you see another referendum happening?
I am hoping they don’t blow their own brains out, but man, there is not a single leader in the UK worthy of title Leader.
At the moment, no. There is gradually more noise being made about it, though, from gradually more serious voices. I think it is too late to change course now, as crazy-stubborn as that seems.
Even if there were another referendum, I’m not sure it would swing the other way anyway. I need to sign off now - sorry for the quick intro & go. Happy to discuss more next week. Sorry also for going off-topic.
Have a nice weekend!
K
re: #212 dangerman
iow - he shot off his mouth without reading the stuff first
a great quality in a president
Which is typical. Has he ever NOT done that?
re: #215 Curious Lifeform
At the moment, no. There is gradually more noise being made about it, though, from gradually more serious voices. I think it is too late to change course now, as crazy-stubborn as that seems.
Even if there were another referendum, I’m not sure it would swing the other way anyway. I need to sign off now - sorry for the quick intro & go. Happy to discuss more next week. Sorry also for going off-topic.
Have a nice weekend!
K
Have a great weekend yourself! Looking forward to your perspectives.
Seems be a growing suspicion on Twitter that prominent wingnuts knew about Whelan’s planned self-immolation yesterday. That they either knew he was about say something or knew he was going to put his theory out there, but didn’t know he was going to throw an innocent man under the bus. Now they’re all trying to scramble to put distance between them and him as he tries to bullshit people into believing it was all a mistake.
re: #215 Curious Lifeform
At the moment, no. There is gradually more noise being made about it, though, from gradually more serious voices. I think it is too late to change course now, as crazy-stubborn as that seems.
Even if there were another referendum, I’m not sure it would swing the other way anyway. I need to sign off now - sorry for the quick intro & go. Happy to discuss more next week. Sorry also for going off-topic.
Have a nice weekend!
K
Tinkety tonk, old fruit, and down with the Nazis!
re: #218 Targetpractice
Seems be a growing suspicion on Twitter that prominent wingnuts knew about Whelan’s planned self-immolation yesterday. That they either knew he was about say something or knew he was going to put his theory out there, but didn’t know he was going to throw an innocent man under the bus. Now they’re all trying to scramble to put distance between them and him as he tries to bullshit people into believing it was all a mistake.
Kabuki theater designed to give the GOP cover in claiming that no matter what Dr. Ford says, they’ll confirm anyways, because there’s just enough doubt out there that we can say she was assaulted, but not by whom.
It’s all bulkshit from the GOP. They want Kavanaugh on the bench to fulfill his role as tipping the court to the GOP for decades to come. That’s all that matters. Even those so-called principled GOPers who think that Kavanaugh is compromised are going along with it - including McConnell. Why? Because if Kavanaugh withdraws now, there’s no time before the midterms to ram through another nominee and then we’re into the lame duck when it’s quite possible that Democrats retake the Senate and gain a majority in the House.
That’s another backdrop to the fact that Trump keeps throwing a shutdown threat out there, which would only help the Democrats.
re: #213 wheat-dogg
She was, and was well known for posting her usual well thought out comments at the end of “dead” threads. Thus, the term “CL’d” for posting something just as a new thread was aborned.
i used to read redstate - no userid, lurking only
to keep an eye on….
it wasnt easy
i stopped around 3 or 4 years ago - it became pointless
their comments were threaded more like disqus than the lgf format
there was a poster who would regularly make a comment, then almost immediately reply to himself because he thought of something else
the practice became a verb - to kowalski
he posted there for years. a more or less reasonable voice
they eventually drove him away
re: #218 Targetpractice
Seems be a growing suspicion on Twitter that prominent wingnuts knew about Whelan’s planned self-immolation yesterday. That they either knew he was about say something or knew he was going to put his theory out there, but didn’t know he was going to throw an innocent man under the bus. Now they’re all trying to scramble to put distance between them and him as he tries to bullshit people into believing it was all a mistake.
Ethics!
re: #220 lawhawk
Kabuki theater designed to give the GOP cover in claiming that no matter what Dr. Ford says, they’ll confirm anyways, because there’s just enough doubt out there that we can say she was assaulted, but not by whom.
It’s all bulkshit from the GOP. They want Kavanaugh on the bench to fulfill his role as tipping the court to the GOP for decades to come. That’s all that matters. Even those so-called principled GOPers who think that Kavanaugh is compromised are going along with it - including McConnell. Why? Because if Kavanaugh withdraws now, there’s no time before the midterms to ram through another nominee and then we’re into the lame duck when it’s quite possible that Democrats retake the Senate and gain a majority in the House.
That’s another backdrop to the fact that Trump keeps throwing a shutdown threat out there, which would only help the Democrats.
Ayep:
McConnell to social conservatives this morning at #VVS18, on Kavanaugh: “Keep the faith. Don’t get rattled by all of this. We’re gonna plow right through it and do our job.”
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 21, 2018
re: #216 MsJ
Which is typical. Has he ever NOT done that?
clearly he doesnt like to work in general and doesnt read much of anything at all
in this particular case he doesnt even have the presence of mind to say to himself, i could just check and see what might hurt me before i open my mouth
re: #212 dangerman
iow - he shot off his mouth without reading the stuff first
a great quality in a president
He doesn’t read anything. He was probably just regurgitating what some of his friends on Fox advised.
Blaming the victim.
You’re a self-admitted sex predator who grabbed women by the genitals and admitted you could get away with it because you’re rich and powerful.
That’s why women don’t come forward - they’re victimized again and again after being sexually assaulted 1st time— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 21, 2018
After listing reasons to doubt Kavanaugh’s accuser, Bauer says even women “shouldn’t want a country where after a lifetime of decency, the man in your life can be ruined by someone getting up and saying ‘36 years ago, he did this to me.’” #VVS18
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 21, 2018
Says the people who made a campaign issue out of an accusation that Obama ate dog when he was living abroad as a teen.
re: #203 wheat-dogg
OK, I can already see using CL as an abbreviation for a user may get confusing from here on, as in “I was CL’d downstairs.” Old-timers, be careful!
I don’t even know what CL stands for!
take a seat moron and STFU
Senator Feinstein and the Democrats held the letter for months, only to release it with a bang after the hearings were OVER - done very purposefully to Obstruct & Resist & Delay. Let her testify, or not, and TAKE THE VOTE!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2018
By the way, the argument that Brett Kavanaugh must be innocent because he’s such a “decent guy” now is like the neighbor expressing shock that he was living next to a serial killer because “He was always nice to me!”
A source who has been talking to President Trump throughout the Kavanaugh crisis told Axios that “you have no idea” how hard it has been to keep him from attacking his Supreme Court nominee’s accuser. https://t.co/tgdQSXDDnW
— Axios (@axios) September 21, 2018
Shot. https://t.co/CMevCzDT34
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2018
Chaserhttps://t.co/qkcPOvJBVj
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
re: #213 wheat-dogg
She was, and was well known for posting her usual well thought out comments at the end of “dead” threads. Thus, the term “CL’d” for posting something just as a new thread was aborned.
Okay, that makes sense. I couldn’t figure out why CL was being used as I had always know that to be short for Curious Lurker. Oh, how I miss her.
re: #224 dangerman
clearly he doesnt like to work in general and doesnt read much of anything at all
in this particular case he doesnt even have the presence of mind to say to himself, i could just check and see what might hurt me before i open my mouth
I don’t think trump has the presence of mind to do so. I think he is so addled that he really doesn’t realize that he says contradictory (and harmful to himself) stuff minute by minute, day after day.
Yeah it’s funny how suddenly everyone has come up with the same theory at the same time 🤔 https://t.co/azQxKrI8Dv
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) September 21, 2018
re: #170 HappyWarrior
“His future!” without giving two damns about her present. It’s fucking rape/attempted not underaged drinking or pot smoking.
Pot smoking is much worse than rape.
Ask Jeff Sessions.
In fact, pot smoking leads to this very type of debauchery.
If pot was eliminated, rape would be too, along with so many other bad activities like rock ‘n’ roll, gay sex, lack of church attendance, pornography, abortion and liberalism!
(need I /)
re: #230 Targetpractice
By the way, the argument that Brett Kavanaugh must be innocent because he’s such a “decent guy” now is like the neighbor expressing shock that he was living next to a serial killer because “He was always nice to me!”
“He was always a quiet guy.”
re: #203 wheat-dogg
OK, I can already see using CL as an abbreviation for a user may get confusing from here on, as in “I was CL’d downstairs.” Old-timers, be careful!
Long ago and far away there was a blog where a user with a name that abbreviated to EPU had the habit of leaving wordy comments on a dead thread and so “to be EPU’d” carried the exact same message.
re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Now? Now she’s gonna come loaded for bear and Kavanaugh is gonna have to answer if he knew about this “revelation” because of his relationship with the men involved.
I was going to point out to you how utterly stupid your reasoning is, but then I read your profile and see there’s really no point. https://t.co/Gy2wXzMt16
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 21, 2018
re: #227 Targetpractice
After listing reasons to doubt Kavanaugh’s accuser, Bauer says even women “shouldn’t want a country where after a lifetime of decency, the man in your life can be ruined by someone getting up and saying ‘36 years ago, he did this to me.’”
Says the people who made a campaign issue out of an accusation that Obama ate dog when he was living abroad as a teen.
the flaw in that logic is the bold
if the accusation is true, then he just didnt get caught
he did not live a ‘lifetime of decency’
re: #237 Eventual Carrion
And then the neighborhood dogs started disappearing …
initially, the neighborhood cats were blamed with no evidence to support the charges…
re: #233 MsJ
I don’t think trump has the presence of mind to do so. I think he is so addled that he really doesn’t realize that he says contradictory (and harmful to himself) stuff minute by minute, day after day.
yup
another thing that gives me just all sorts of confidence and comfort in this president
re: #241 dangerman
the flaw in that logic is the bold
if the accusation is true, then he just didnt get caught
he did not live a ‘lifetime of decency’
Precisely. This is a man who has enjoyed some measure of protection through his adult life, whether it was an assistant DA mom, a college that is deeply protective of its reputation, a boss that was feeling up clerks in his chambers and keeping it quiet, or political patrons who now want to put him atop the highest court in the land.
If he’s a good man with a clean record, then he should be the first pushing for the matter to be cleared up, not in total denial while his patrons do the heavy lifting of destroying his accuser.
re: #213 wheat-dogg
She was, and was well known for posting her usual well thought out comments at the end of “dead” threads. Thus, the term “CL’d” for posting something just as a new thread was aborned.
I still miss her. :(
re: #144 Alephnaught
Not just Scotland. A hard Brexit would make it more likely that Northern Ireland (which also voted for Remain.) re-unifies with the Republic.
Will the Leeks be far behind?
(Pardon the obscure reference).
BTW, today’s Google doodle is a salute to Mr Rogers
re: #195 makeitstop
‘I had a stupid idea which would have possibly gotten people killed, and people who actually know how this shit works told me I was a fucking idiot, so now I’m not going to do that stupid thing.’
Moron.
But he didn’t do anything wrong and still made a great decision that only people with really great brains would make.
He’s better than all the people in the Justice Department. They should be happy they were able to get to agree with Trump.
Are we really going with the “white men look the same” defense? https://t.co/TEFeKnaCNF
— Imani Gandy o—€ (@AngryBlackLady) September 21, 2018
They did. On you and your father.
Also, there’s been a multinational investigation of you for years. FBI wasn’t alone. https://t.co/RJvH3s2bZq— Eric Garland (@ericgarland) September 21, 2018
white house still trying to pretend they are in control of the presidents ravings 😹 https://t.co/93O2GI8mD6
— darth™ (@darth) September 21, 2018
re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth
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“We’ve got him under control, which is why he hasn’t said any….”
“SHE’S A LYING SLUT!!!”
“…that was totally by design.”
LOL! I love the passive phrasing of “in a way that identified.”
You literally posted his picture and full name and said it was probably him that raped her.
You did this after several days of overt coordination with the White House, the Federalist Society and Kavanaugh himself.— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
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Just watched Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC ask Pompeo about Blasey Ford’s attempted rape allegations against Kavanaugh, and Pompeo said, unchallenged, that Feinstein sat on it for weeks.
Why has NO ONE responded: “So you think rape victims should be outed against their will?”— John Aravosis 🇺🇸 (@aravosis) September 21, 2018
re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth
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They don’t ask the question because they know the answer would be “Yes, we do.”
I don’t agree with Mitch very often, but I suspect he’s right.
Not showing up for the midterms has consequences. This is one of them. Oh, and again, I fucking told you so. https://t.co/MN8ci73YG4— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) September 21, 2018
Opposing a kidnapper, and attempted rapist is now considered “radical-left” by the deranged-right.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 21, 2018
coming up in a few minutes:
At Noon ET: Join @NASA_Marshall researchers and scientists from the @NWSHuntsville in Alabama as they discuss how they use satellite data to help forecast weather and more. Live on Marshall’s Facebook Page at noon ET on Sept. 21. Watch: https://t.co/vecZ3tjZjF pic.twitter.com/S1f1jp0s6s
— NASA (@NASA) September 21, 2018
Ed Whelan floats a trial balloon pic.twitter.com/qjc6QmEhtz
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth
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My guess is that DiFi was hoping that a couple of her GOP colleagues (hint: Lisa and Susan) would have sufficient ethics to come out against the nomination because they could see what Kavanaugh would do once on the court; unfortunately, of course, no current GOP member of the Senate or House has any backbone or loyalty to this nation; it’s all party over country.
re: #199 Curious Lifeform
Greetings, Lizards.
I am a (very long time) lurker. So long ago, I remember when some people described LGF as a “right wing hate site” lol. I had an account but it seemed to get locked - perhaps due to non-use. Having recently changed countries and work I have a new email with which to register. I often lurk and recognise some of your names though you do not know me. I hope that is not too creepy.
I read a lot but am not a prolific commenter. I am not a supporter of Trump, though that is of little value as I am British.
Nice to meet you. I’ll get the beers in.
K
Welcome! And make mine a Wee Heavy.
orbitol eye socket fracture!
Shanidar 1 sustained a crushing fracture to his lateral left orbit that may have reduced left eye vision and/or ocular coordination pic.twitter.com/wIlM5QVVWT
— PaleoAnthropology+ (@Qafzeh) September 18, 2018
actually, a very interesting thread that starts with this:
Remains of two more Neanderthals found in Shanidar Cave #Kurdistan #Iraq https://t.co/f5Pqc5vwIK
— PaleoAnthropology+ (@Qafzeh) September 16, 2018
re: #244 Targetpractice
Precisely. This is a man who has enjoyed some measure of protection through his adult life, whether it was an assistant DA mom, a college that is deeply protective of its reputation, a boss that was feeling up clerks in his chambers and keeping it quiet, or political patrons who now want to put him atop the highest court in the land.
If he’s a good man with a clean record, then he should be the first pushing for the matter to be cleared up, not in total denial while his patrons do the heavy lifting of destroying his accuser.
double precisely
(again assuming it’s true)
he has never been called to account for this particular event
that she never reported it was his good luck - her ‘choice’, his benefit
he’s being called to account now - no, not necessarily ‘legally’
to address: this never happened, she’s a liar. or it did. (i dont care about his excuses or explanations)
whether or not he was a model citizen the day after that day and up through today is an entirely separate issue
which apparently he may not have been anyway
re: #199 Curious Lifeform
Greetings, Lizards.
I am a (very long time) lurker. So long ago, I remember when some people described LGF as a “right wing hate site” lol. I had an account but it seemed to get locked - perhaps due to non-use. Having recently changed countries and work I have a new email with which to register. I often lurk and recognise some of your names though you do not know me. I hope that is not too creepy.
I read a lot but am not a prolific commenter. I am not a supporter of Trump, though that is of little value as I am British.
Nice to meet you. I’ll get the beers in.
K
So you were lurking well before I ever started my lurk! Welcome to the team.
re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Mitch you arrogant ass.
I so want Kavanaugh to crash and burn now just so McConnell has to eat a nice big plate of crow.
BREAKING: Police: Suspect in Wisconsin workplace shooting had concealed-carry permit revoked, unable to legally purchase gun. https://t.co/p8qlfhSJw1
— The Associated Press (@AP) September 21, 2018
PROOF THAT GUN LAWS ARE USELESS!!11!!
re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth
…Kavanaugh will be on the United States Supreme Court… Don’t get rattled by all of this. We’re gonna plow right through it and do our job.”
my question to mitch:
if this is ‘doing your job’ what were you doing wrt Merrick Garland?
cause im gonna suspect “not your job”
re: #269 dangerman
my question to mitch:
if this is ‘doing your job’ what were you doing wrt Merrick Garland?
cause im gonna suspect “not your job”
He was doing his job just not the one he was elected for.
re: #269 dangerman
my question to mitch:
if this is ‘doing your job’ what were you doing wrt Merrick Garland?
cause im gonna suspect “not your job”
Sure he was. He views his job as pleasing his base. His base didn’t want Merrick Garland, so his job was to spike that nomination and leave the “Scalia seat” open for a far-right thug.
And with this, we learn that men know full well what they’re doing when they condescendingly suggest that women don’t know what we’re talking about. https://t.co/J6xYC6AWYi
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) September 21, 2018
re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Kavanaugh isn’t a good man. He’s an amoral partisan creep who was willing to shift suspicion to an innocent man to save his ass.
If we get a majority in the the Chamber, I’d like a redo of the Samuel Chase impeachment (1804) for Kavanaugh. Even if gets acquitted in the Senate, it’ll be fun.
White America this is the real swamp that needs drained.
re: #269 dangerman
my question to mitch:
if this is ‘doing your job’ what were you doing wrt Merrick Garland?
cause im gonna suspect “not your job”
His job was to pack the courts with right wing extremists. That meant denying Garland a hearing or vote. He did so by inventing baffling BS claim that you can’t hold either during the lame duck years of a presidency. Let’s just ignore that John Marshall (yeah that John Marshall) was a lame duck appointment by Adams during the lame duck session of the Senate before Jefferson was inaugurated. From the get-go, elections were not the prohibiting factor preventing hearings or votes.
But this GOP has destroyed comity and ignore 200 years of precedent to claim you can’t hold hearings or a vote except when it’s in support of getting an accused sex predator on the Supreme Court to give the GOP functional control of the court’s ideological outlook for the next 20-30 years.
Or desperate. McConnell has made a lot of bad bets in the past year or two. His power to hocus pocus reporters into believing he’s clairvoyant may be diminished but it still exists. https://t.co/mZKCw7T4SC
— Adam Jentleson 🎈 (@AJentleson) September 21, 2018
The whole “He’s a good man, judge him on who he’s become!” bit doesn’t suggest that Senate Republicans believe he’s innocent. You don’t try to argue that a “good man” has become so after an illegal act if you believe that illegal act never happened.
re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth
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No shit, how many times did we hear reports that he had the votes to kill the ACA?
Dear Republican Senators @SenatorFischer @SenatorCollins @lisamurkowski @joniernst @cindyhydesmith @SenCapito
The Dean of Yale Law school is now speaking out about Kavanaugh & his bizarre need to have female clerks with a certain “look”
How can you participate in this? https://t.co/sjYZzosEmi— ☇RiotWomenn☇ (@riotwomennn) September 21, 2018
HOW DEPRAVED IS THE GOP AT THIS POINT?
Well, just THIS MORNING alone:
1. Trump called Dr. Ford a liar
2. Franklin Graham says “no crime was committed” and they were “just teenagers”
3. Gary Bauer says that Ford charges are like “waterboarding” Kavanaugh— Ronald Klain (@RonaldKlain) September 21, 2018
So it’s now noon EDT and still no new news about next week’s hearing since the report last night that Prof. Ford’s lawyer has relaying some requests including moving the hearing to next Thursday.
My guess is they’re working on a way to spin the refusal to move the hearing after days of telling the press they’d do what made her “comfortable.”
Dear @realDonaldTrump: Please get briefed on why sexual assault victims don’t report. From gymnasts to altar boys & girls to wrestlers to students, there are many cases where victims don’t report.
Dr. Ford did report the assault to her therapist in 2012, & passed a lie detector. https://t.co/hjv1JLRHkU— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) September 21, 2018
re: #265 dangerman
double precisely
(again assuming it’s true)
he has never been called to account for this particular event
that she never reported it was his good luck - her ‘choice’, his benefit
he’s being called to account now - no, not necessarily ‘legally’
to address: this never happened, she’s a liar. or it did. (i dont care about his excuses or explanations)whether or not he was a model citizen the day after that day and up through today is an entirely separate issue
which apparently he may not have been anyway
His desire for a certain type of model-like female law clerks gives me the impression that his “model citizenry” never was and unlikely ever will be.
re: #265 dangerman
double precisely
(again assuming it’s true)
he has never been called to account for this particular event
that she never reported it was his good luck - her ‘choice’, his benefit
he’s being called to account now - no, not necessarily ‘legally’
to address: this never happened, she’s a liar. or it did. (i dont care about his excuses or explanations)whether or not he was a model citizen the day after that day and up through today is an entirely separate issue
which apparently he may not have been anyway
The term “model citizen” seems to be limited to one’s personal behavior. IMHO, that is too restrictive: one’s professional involvement should also be considered. In judicial ruling after ruling, Kavanaugh has shown himself to be heartless and cruel to those who have less power. His disgraceful handling of the 17 year old pregnant immigrant should have disqualified him from consideration for this post, but we know that it’s his outrageous expansive interpretation on the power of the executive branch that led to his nomination.
Kavanaugh is not a model citizen if you base your views on the democracy we were before Trump’s election; of course, if you believe that NK adoring citizenry comprise model citizens, he probably fits that definition.
Planners of Trump Tower Meeting Moved Millions https://t.co/deYOnIYjuC
— Taegan Goddard (@politicalwire) September 21, 2018
Millions of dollars move around in Trumpworld between Trump’s campaign June 2016 meeting participants.
This is something Mueller’s looking at very closely. https://t.co/UgtZrRYjM6— lawhawk (@lawhawk) September 21, 2018
Cohen is busy testifying to Mueller these days, as is Manafort, so these financial deals are getting the scrutiny they deserve.
None of this is good news for Trump, who’d rather do word salad campaign rallies with Fox agitprop experts (and Cohen client #3) like Hannity in attendance.
Heinously taunting sexual assault victims to own the libs
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
The sexist, bigoted, theocratic, alt-Christians have taken over the GOP.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 21, 2018
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re: #273 Targetpractice
re: #272 HappyWarrior
kids, you’re taking all the fun out of this
of course I know this
everyone does
i want mitch to try and answer the question
if “plowing’, “ramming” pushing through a nominee -
- on a totally artifical timeline
- as fast as possible
- without a deliberative review of documentational history
- and now the Ford allegation
is you saying this is just “doing your job”…
how is it you, the guy in charge, was unable to get merrick garland to even step one?
re: #289 goddamnedfrank
Do you think he really wrote that post? It’s far too grammatical. Or was he just repeating what he heard on Fox?
re: #223 Targetpractice
Ayep:
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hey, wouldja look at that… Values Voters AGAIN scheduled their wingnut theocrat conference to take place during the Jewish High Holidays.
Every year. Every damn year. So they can say whatever they want about Israel without any actual Jews in the room.
Now that I’ve thought about it, I expect Grassley and Hatch will keep to script: “It’s not fair that Judge Kavanuagh has to wait! We’re going to have this hearing on Monday and she either shows up or we vote!”
This doesn’t pass the smell test. These rancid tapioca ass motherfuckers had been openly coordinating and crowing about the imminent arrival of this absurd libelous trial ballon for days.
— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
re: #287 Hecuba’s daughter
The term “model citizen” seems to be limited to one’s personal behavior. IMHO, that is too restrictive: one’s professional involvement should also be considered. In judicial ruling after ruling, Kavanaugh has shown himself to be heartless and cruel to those who have less power. His disgraceful handling of the 17 year old pregnant immigrant should have disqualified him from consideration for this post, but we know that it’s his outrageous expansive interpretation on the power of the executive branch that led to his nomination.
Kavanaugh is not a model citizen if you base your views on the democracy we were before Trump’s election; of course, if you believe that NK adoring citizenry comprise model citizens, he probably fits that definition.
i am not arguing or disagreeing
in my mind i have separated personal character from professional character from jurisprudence history and future
for a seat on the supreme court you necessarily (ought to) have to pass all of them (theres other stuff too)
even though the order that this information comes out is not always linear
he does not even pass the personal character test. the rest is now irrelevant.
re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter
Do you think he really wrote that post? It’s far too grammatical. Or was he just repeating what he heard on Fox?
THAT that thing was ever drafted is an abomination, whether he wrote it or for it from Fox.
Demanding time and place and proof from a likely terrified 15 year old in a time that “all good fun” and “she was asking for it” was the remedy?
GRRRRRRRRRRR.
The “she should have gone to the police when it happened” completely ignore the fact that Kavanaugh’s mother was a DA at the time.
If Ford went to the police, would they have even bothered investigating, knowing that Mumsy would never allow her darling boy to be prosecuted? You don’t spend more per year on your child’s education than most Americans spend on their house only to have his future be jeopardized by some little slut (the common view of women that were raped) that likely wanted his attention.
And if your daughter tells you about the attack, do you bring it up, knowing that the police could well ingratiate themselves with Mumsy by making your life hell with constant traffic stops or citations? You know your daughter’s life would be examined in minute detail, what she wore, what she drank, any parties that she attended, her grades, her friends, and all of this would become public knowledge.
Worth doing? Probably not.
Some people (cough cough Corner Stone) at Balloon Juice have gone full throttle nihilism and are hoping the middle school teacher who signed the letter for Kavanaugh also gets wrecked as a result of this. One commenter hoped he would lose his house, wife and kids because he signed the letter supporting Kavanaugh and fuck him he deserves to burn.
I can’t do this. I cannot be with people who are going to be this consumed by hatred that a middle school teacher being nice to a buddy from three decades ago is fair game for destruction and opprobrium.
I think I flounced.
That is a fucked up thing to agree with.
Teachers are not the target here, and we shouldn’t stand by and let them be targets. He isn’t a goddamned K Street player. He is an Atlanta middle school teacher who has to deal with 8th grade kids and correct their homework tonight while this shit is going on around him.
By the way, signing onto a letter for a friend from 30 years ago is usually seen as a social nicety. Nobody takes it seriously and nobody puts any weight on it.
Whatever screwed up version of morals you have subscribed to, being nice to your high school buddy from 3 decades past in no fucking way merits this kind of bullshit and we should be ashamed for even entertaining the notion that it ever would!!!
I have been at this site since 2006, and if that is the way we are going to play now, I’m done. I want nothing to do with this kind of thinking.
We cannot let ourselves become the enemy we are fighting. I refuse to go down that path.
re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter
Do you think he really wrote that post? It’s far too grammatical. Or was he just repeating what he heard on Fox?
It’s ridiculously tone deaf, cruel, counter productive, contains inappropriate capitalization and his aides have reportedly been desperately attempting to prevent exactly this kind of unhinged bullshit. Trump definitely wrote it himself.
re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter
Do you think he really wrote that post? It’s far too grammatical. Or was he just repeating what he heard on Fox?
Does it matter? It’s in his name.
re: #271 retired cynic
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re: #300 Scottish Dragon
Some people (cough cough Corner Stone) at Balloon Juice have gone full throttle nihilism and are hoping the middle school teacher who signed the letter for Kavanaugh also gets wrecked as a result of this. One commenter hoped he would lose his house, wife and kids because he signed the letter supporting Kavanaugh and fuck him he deserves to burn.
I can’t do this. I cannot be with people who are going to be this consumed by hatred that a middle school teacher being nice to a buddy from three decades ago is fair game for destruction and opprobrium.
I think I flounced.
We cannot let ourselves become the enemy we are fighting. I refuse to go down that path.
I’m with you. He doesn’t deserve to get his life ruined.
re: #299 Done Ben Wrote
The “she should have gone to the police when it happened” completely ignore the fact that Kavanaugh’s mother was a DA at the time.
If Ford went to the police, would they have even bothered investigating, knowing that Mumsy would never allow her darling boy to be prosecuted? You don’t spend more per year on your child’s education than most Americans spend on their house only to have his future be jeopardized by some little slut (the common view of women that were raped) that likely wanted his attention.
And if your daughter tells you about the attack, do you bring it up, knowing that the police could well ingratiate themselves with Mumsy by making your life hell with constant traffic stops or citations? You know your daughter’s life would be examined in minute detail, what she wore, what she drank, any parties that she attended, her grades, her friends, and all of this would become public knowledge.
Worth doing? Probably not.
With doing NOW? Probably not… Considering what she’s dealing with.
We’re externally damned if we do and internally damned if we don’t.
re: #296 goddamnedfrank
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Correct. Hatch goes on TV a few days ago stating that Dr. Ford might be “mixed up”, and then this crazy, albeit very detailed, tweetstorm from Whelan magically appears? Total coincidence. Sure, right.
re: #307 Mike Lamb
Correct. Hatch goes on TV a few days ago stating that Dr. Ford might be “mixed up”, and then this crazy, albeit very detailed, tweetstorm from Whelan magically appears? Total coincidence. Sure, right.
Reeks of a coordinated effort. Now those people should get their lives ruined here not the teacher buddy.
re: #300 Scottish Dragon
Some people (cough cough Corner Stone) at Balloon Juice have gone full throttle nihilism and are hoping the middle school teacher who signed the letter for Kavanaugh also gets wrecked as a result of this. One commenter hoped he would lose his house, wife and kids because he signed the letter supporting Kavanaugh and fuck him he deserves to burn.
I can’t do this. I cannot be with people who are going to be this consumed by hatred that a middle school teacher being nice to a buddy from three decades ago is fair game for destruction and opprobrium.
I think I flounced.
We cannot let ourselves become the enemy we are fighting. I refuse to go down that path.
I think it kind of matters how Garrett responds to this betrayal and if it shakes him out of his ill advised, reflexive support for Kavanaugh. I’ve known a few white male conservative ain’t shit middle school teachers and so I’m not in a rush to defend Garrett until he shows signs of internally connecting his own victimization with Ford’s and realizes how stupid it was to weigh in on something that he, at best, knew nothing about.
It must be Friday
Some are reporting that the armed man was a kidnapping subject. Police still have not confirmed whether or not that is true. FBI is on scene. https://t.co/wA0AoH3ZJZ
— Monique O. Madan (@MoniqueOMadan) September 21, 2018
re: #300 Scottish Dragon
Gave you a +1 for your morals. I’m a lurker mostly in the same circles as you (here, BJ, Dreher in the past) and I hope you’d also agree that John Cole and co. are solid guidance who will likely prevent BJ from going full-on “burn them all down”. So weird to watch these site communities, for me since the early aughts.
re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth
take a seat moron and STFU
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“Let her testify, or not…”
Whatever, who cares, fuck this lady and fuck the rest of you too.
God I hate this President.
re: #303 Hecuba’s daughter
I just am not sure what comment you are referring to. Sorry! I’ve been in and out more than usual over the last couple of weeks. Brain not in gear today, either!
Well, I guess people should stop fishing down stream, for around a generation
BREAKING: APNewsBreak: Duke Energy says dam breached at plant in North Carolina; coal ash may be flowing into Cape Fear River
— The Associated Press (@AP) September 21, 2018
If one of my close friends, let alone some random dude I went to high school with gets accused of attempted rape the absolute fucking best I have for them is “I really hope you didn’t do it.” This is what attenuates my empathy for Garrett, he put his name on the line to defend Kavanaugh and then got burned.
re: #309 goddamnedfrank
I think it kind of matters how Garrett responds to this betrayal and if it shakes him out of his ill advised, reflexive support for Kavanaugh. I’ve known a few white male conservative ain’t shit middle school teachers and so I’m not in a rush to defend Garrett until he shows signs of internally connecting his own victimization with Ford’s and realizes how stupid it was to weigh in on something that he, at best, knew nothing about.
Much like the letter of 65 women who swear Brett Kavanaugh never raped them, Whelon’s sudden “revelation” reeks of something that was coordinated with an eye towards discrediting any potential accusers.
re: #315 goddamnedfrank
If one of my close friends, let alone some random dude I went to high school with gets accused of attempted rape the absolute fucking best I have for them is “I really hope you didn’t do it.” This is what attenuates my empathy for Garrett, he put his name on the line to defend Kavanaugh and then got burned.
As we’ve heard numerous times in recent days, people know that one person they thought was a good man…right up until the cops were dragging them off in handcuffs for heinous crimes. Then it’s “He was always nice to me” and people sitting around to “connect the dots.”
re: #295 Targetpractice
Now that I’ve thought about it, I expect Grassley and Hatch will keep to script: “It’s not fair that Judge Kavanuagh has to wait! We’re going to have this hearing on Monday and she either shows up or we vote!”
does the day of the week she testifies change the facts?
re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Well, I guess people should stop fishing down stream, for around a generation
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re: #298 MsJ
THAT that thing was ever drafted is an abomination, whether he wrote it or for it from Fox.
Demanding time and place and proof from a likely terrified 15 year old in a time that “all good fun” and “she was asking for it” was the remedy?
GRRRRRRRRRRR.
You are absolutely right. His statement is ridiculous on its face — She would not have thought to report it to the police in any case since she managed to escape physical (not psychological) harm because Kavanaugh was too drunk. Girls often thought they were the ones to blame when attacked, especially in cases like this, where they were attending an underage drinking party without their parents’ knowledge or approval.
I can be overly pedantic — I was not excusing Trump but was wondering if it was some other deplorable on the team (Stephen Miller e.g.) who was responsible for the text itself.
Here’s Ed Whelan outing a (formerly) pseudonymous blogger for the high crime of disagreeing with him. Ed’s just classy as hell; always has been.https://t.co/xzNLbyoMYY
— Mike Schilling (@_mike_schilling) September 21, 2018
re: #309 goddamnedfrank
I think it kind of matters how Garrett responds to this betrayal and if it shakes him out of his ill advised, reflexive support for Kavanaugh. I’ve known a few white male conservative ain’t shit middle school teachers and so I’m not in a rush to defend Garrett until he shows signs of internally connecting his own victimization with Ford’s and realizes how stupid it was to weigh in on something that he, at best, knew nothing about.
He signed a letter that his buddy from thirty years ago was a good guy. Typical shit we all do at some point in our lives, and almost none of us go to that friend and interrogate him or her on where the skeletons are buried under what closet before we sign.
That guy could just as well have been me or a hundred thousand other teachers who take a minute to sign something before the class goes apeshit again for the fifth time today. That teachers owes you nothing at all. He doesn’t owe you, me, or anybody else an explanation or a communication or anything else.
But we, as a society, sure as hell owe him. This nightmare is going to follow him forever. It is now part of the wingnut folklore and it will never, ever go away. Erick son of Erick is still pimping this shit hours after Whelan deleted the tweets.
So please take a moment and have a little empathy and a little humility as well, because none of us can say at what moment this kind of unwanted nightmare can find any of us. When it does, you will be glad for the people who extend an open hand rather than a clenched fist.
Everyone needs to read this.
Anyone who is genuinely confused about why a 15-year-old girl would not immediately report a sexual assault should read this harrowing piece by @ebruenig about a girl who did, and what happened to her afterward. https://t.co/Wgc0q4xN7M
— Christopher Orr (@OrrChris) September 21, 2018
I can’t stop thinking about it.
re: #316 dangerman
Like the rest of us Garrett did know that Ford had brought it up in therapy seven years before Kavanaugh’s nomination, that she put a witness in the room, passed a polygraph and was demanding an FBI investigation. None of that is what someone making up a story would do. So Garrett owns the fact that he ignored all of that and decided to sign a letter vouching for a dude he hadn’t seen in decades.
re: #319 dangerman
does the day of the week she testifies change the facts?
It doesn’t, but as we see with Whelon’s self-immolation, the longer this goes on, the more damage they’re doing to their credibility. Kavanuagh’s now going to face questions about whether he had knowledge a Republican hatchetman was about to slag one of his former classmates, what other questions will come up before Monday, let alone Thursday?
re: #323 Scottish Dragon
He signed a letter that his buddy from thirty years ago was a good guy. Typical shit we all do at some point in our lives, and almost none of us go to that friend and interrogate him or her on where the skeletons are buried under what closet before we sign.
I’ve never done that and would never do that in the face of credible allegations of sexual assault.
The Old Grey Whistle Test aired for the first time on this day, 21st September 1971.
Commissioned: David Attenborough.
Channel: BBC2.
Episodes: 445.
Last one: 1st January 1988.
This David Bowie “Oh! You Pretty Things” was recorded for OGWT in 1972, but not broadcast until 1982: pic.twitter.com/fYyrVyGshr— Music History (@RockWalkLondon) September 21, 2018
re: #300 Scottish Dragon
Once you mentioned who it was, I was only a little shocked at how far it went.
re: #316 dangerman
He didn’t weigh in on anything other than he thought that Kavanaugh was a nice guy 30 years ago.
Do you how much that actually means in reality?
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It’s a social nicety. Nothing more. Most people understand that. It does not for one moment enable or entitle anybody to go after him, wish harm on him or think anything other than he was being nice to someone he used to know.
re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Well, I guess people should stop fishing down stream, for around a generation
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The fish will go good with the lead paint chips.
re: #331 Scottish Dragon
He didn’t weigh in on anything other than he thought that Kavanaugh was a nice guy 30 years ago.
Do you how much that actually means in reality?
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It’s a social nicety. Nothing more. Most people understand that. It does not for one moment enable or entitle anybody to go after him, wish harm on him or think anything other than he was being nice to someone he used to know.
You know who else he reportedly knew? Ford. Funny how he didn’t say shit about how nice she was or how she visited him in the hospital. It’s boys’ club bullshit and he could have (read: should have) said nothing.
re: #325 goddamnedfrank
Like the rest of us Garrett did know that Ford had brought it up in therapy seven years before Kavanaugh’s nomination, that she put a witness in the room, passed a polygraph and was demanding an FBI investigation. None of that is what someone making up a story would do. So Garrett owns the fact that he ignored all of that and decided to sign a letter vouching for a dude he hadn’t seen in decades.
Um…it is my understanding these letters were signed weeks ago. Do you have different information?
re: #328 goddamnedfrank
I’ve never done that and would never do that in the face of credible allegations of sexual assault.
Please show your information on this. Do you have a date after last week that he signed?
Everything I have seen suggests this was a pro forma thing that was done weeks ago.
Christ almighty… Both these turd are charged with murder.
‘You pulled a gun in front of my kids over a mattress,’ the man said. Then he was shot dead. https://t.co/5DbdS6fNQk
— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) September 21, 2018
re: #300 Scottish Dragon
Some people (cough cough Corner Stone) at Balloon Juice have gone full throttle nihilism and are hoping the middle school teacher who signed the letter for Kavanaugh also gets wrecked as a result of this. One commenter hoped he would lose his house, wife and kids because he signed the letter supporting Kavanaugh and fuck him he deserves to burn.
I can’t do this. I cannot be with people who are going to be this consumed by hatred that a middle school teacher being nice to a buddy from three decades ago is fair game for destruction and opprobrium.
I think I flounced.
We cannot let ourselves become the enemy we are fighting. I refuse to go down that path.
I don’t agree with your flow of logic. I am not friends with rapists. I am not friends with racists. If a friend of mine was accused of doing what Kavanaugh did, I would not write him a letter of support, I would write the fucker out of my life and wonder how I could be so fucking blind. My definition of friendship does not include supporting anyone no matter what the fuck they do. That is bullshit. And, I would extend that to my kids. Be a bad person, don’t expect me to try all kinds of shit to get you off. That is exactly what the fuck is wrong with this country. Own your shit, Americans. Own it each and every one.
re: #334 Scottish Dragon
Um…it is my understanding these letters were signed weeks ago. Do you have different information?
Fair enough. He just supported a classmate who last year tried to use force to keep a detained teenage immigrant from having an abortion against her will. So much less egregious but still boys club as fuck.
So is the consensus that Senate criminals will say “Fuck America” and vote Monday?
re: #337 Old Liberal
I don’t agree with your flow of logic. I am not friends with rapists. I am not friends with racists. If a friend of mine was accused of doing what Kavanaugh did, I would not write him a letter of support, I would write the fucker out of my life and wonder how I could be so fucking blind. My definition of friendship does not include supporting anyone no matter what the fuck they do. That is bullshit. And, I would extend that to my kids. Be a bad person, don’t expect me to try all kinds of shit to get you off. That is exactly what the fuck is wrong with this country. Own your shit, Americans. Own it each and every one.
Show me were he wrote the letter in the last three days…because everything I have seen suggests the letter was from weeks ago, and was signed by a number of other classmates and law associates etc from years of contacts.
Nobody is signing letters to support this guy right now. Nobody.
So unless you will never, ever write a letter to support anybody at all on any grounds because you cannot say for sure what that person did when you were not looking, what is your issue with what I am saying?
re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Well, I guess people should stop fishing down stream, for around a generation
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re: #334 Scottish Dragon
Um…it is my understanding these letters were signed weeks ago. Do you have different information?
IF he didn’t have information then, why WOULD HE NOT recant his signature now?
I have no sympathy for these people until they OWN IT. He fucked up. He should admit it instead of running around being the victim.
If I wrote a fucking recommendation for someone two weeks ago and just found out they were arrested for child abuse, you better believe I’d be all over retracting that.
re: #340 Scottish Dragon
Show me were he wrote the letter in the last three days…because everything I have seen suggests the letter was from weeks ago, and was signed by a number of other classmates and law associates etc from years of contacts.
Nobody is signing letters to support this guy right now. Nobody.
So unless you will never, ever right a letter to support anybody at all on any grounds because you cannot say for sure what that person did when you were not looking, what is your issue with what I am saying?
Where is his letter recanting his support? Where is his public statement?
I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 21, 2018
Bold words from a grown man who’s still hiding his tax records, his Apprentice tapes, and his deep financial ties with with the Russian mafia.
The thing that will never stop burning me about white support for people like Trump, Kavanaugh, and the GOP writ large is that it’s too easy and there are endless excuses and civility arguments that completely skip right past the very real harm to minority populations being condoned in the process.
re: #342 Old Liberal
IF he didn’t have information then, why WOULD HE NOT recant his signature now?
I have no sympathy for these people until they OWN IT. He fucked up. He should admit it instead of running around being the victim.
If I wrote a fucking recommendation for someone two weeks ago and just found out they were arrested for child abuse, you better believe I’d be all over retracting that.
Because he is in fucking class right now dealing with children…and I wouldn’t do a damned thing until I had a lawyer.
Do you want to contribute to his legal fund when it is set up? Middle school teachers usually can’t afford a lawyer.
BTW…he doesn’t owe any of us a statement.
re: #337 Old Liberal
But, this Atlanta teacher had no knowledge of BK’s assault when he signed this general character reference in the past months sometime. Bet he’d take it back now! He’s another victim of BK and his posse in this. Although yes, I’m not gonna roll personally with anyone who’d sign his support to any Trump judicial nominee either. :)
re: #346 Scottish Dragon
Because he is fucking class right now dealing with children…and I wouldn’t do a damned thing until a had a lawyer.
Do you want to contribute to his legal fund when it is set up? Middle school teachers usually can’t afford a lawyer.
BTW…he doesn’t owe any of us a statement.
He wrote a commendation.
To a person credibly accused of attempt rape and possibly worse.
He is too busy to recant it?
But not too busy to whine about how he is being victimized?
Here it is:
I should not have signed that letter for Mr. Kavanaugh. I retract my statement. God, that took me four seconds.
re: #311 Ferdinand
Gave you a +1 for your morals. I’m a lurker mostly in the same circles as you (here, BJ, Dreher in the past) and I hope you’d also agree that John Cole and co. are solid guidance who will likely prevent BJ from going full-on “burn them all down”. So weird to watch these site communities, for me since the early aughts.
While I completely disagree with their concept, I completely understand their frustration, and I’ll bet every single one of us here does.
Dems in general are too fucking nice and too fucking accommodating and too fucking forgiving. We play by the rules where Republicans are liars and cheats and charlatans with no moral compass whatsoever and no desire to play by any rules; whatever it takes to get and keep power.
We play by rules and they play us. Always. Repeatedly.
re: #343 Old Liberal
Where is his letter recanting his support? Where is his public statement?
Er, I don’t know anything about this Garrett guy, and we’re living in Trump time, but you know that this all blew up yesterday. He was basically some random teacher a couple of days ago maybe wondering whether he should stain the deck this weekend, and suddenly he’s in the middle of a massive national political shitstorm. So I’d expect a few days to have some sort of coherent reaction.
re: #347 Ferdinand
But, this Atlanta teacher had no knowledge of BK’s assault when he signed this general character reference in the past months sometime. Bet he’d take it back now! He’s another victim of BK and his posse in this. Although yes, I’m not gonna roll personally with anyone who’d sign his support to any Trump judicial nominee either. :)
I don’t have to think I’d be this guy’s friend to say that trying to hang him this way is wrong and actually evil.
re: #343 Old Liberal
This literally happened last night. Maybe he’s grading papers. Or finding a good lawyer.
re: #350 ericblair
Er, I don’t know anything about this Garrett guy, and we’re living in Trump time, but you know that this all blew up yesterday. He was basically some random teacher a couple of days ago maybe wondering whether he should stain the deck this weekend, and suddenly he’s in the middle of a massive national political shitstorm. So I’d expect a few days to have some sort of coherent reaction.
Yeah, exactly. He’s not a professional.
re: #321 Hecuba’s daughter
You are absolutely right. His statement is ridiculous on its face — She would not have thought to report it to the police in any case since she managed to escape physical (not psychological) harm because Kavanaugh was too drunk. Girls often thought they were the ones to blame when attacked, especially in cases like this, where they were attending an underage drinking party without their parents’ knowledge or approval.
I can be overly pedantic — I was not excusing Trump but was wondering if it was some other deplorable on the team (Stephen Miller e.g.) who was responsible for the text itself.
To me it doesn’t matter who. They’re all the same. Every last one of them who has any association with this maladministration.
re: #350 ericblair
Er, I don’t know anything about this Garrett guy, and we’re living in Trump time, but you know that this all blew up yesterday. He was basically some random teacher a couple of days ago maybe wondering whether he should stain the deck this weekend, and suddenly he’s in the middle of a massive national political shitstorm. So I’d expect a few days to have some sort of coherent reaction.
Are you kidding me? He needs several days to figure out that endorsing someone he barely knew who stands accused of reprehensible behavior, should be recanted? And he is competent to teach middle school? Tell me, what does he need to figure out? What side he is on? If she is lying?
Apologies if this is old news at this point, I’m just catching up.
This seems to establish, at a bare minimum, that people on Team Kavanaugh, if not Kavanaugh himself, remember the party and who was there.
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) September 21, 2018
.@EdWhelanEPPC who told you the identity of the unnamed female attendee of the party everyone was pretending they couldn’t recall?
— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) September 21, 2018
Staff contacted Mark Judge and obtained a statement under penalty of felony. Staff contacted third person allegedly at party described by Dr. Ford and obtained a statement under penalty of felony. Staff contacted fourth person allegedly at party.
— Senate Judiciary (@senjudiciary) September 20, 2018
How does the Judiciary staff know the identity of the two additional party guests without speaking to Ford? https://t.co/wqyvfK0F7o
— Irin Carmon (@irin) September 20, 2018
re: #343 Old Liberal
Where is his letter recanting his support? Where is his public statement?
It’s not as though he is a well-known person in the public eye. Who knows how closely he is following any of this? We sometimes assume that because we are glued to the TV or the Internet watching the twists and turns of an important political drama that others are equally engaged. The 65 women who signed the letter of support AFTER the initial allegations were publicized did not come forward to make an official retraction: it required journalists making followup calls to show that only two still affirmed their support. It’s hard for citizens who are not accustomed to the spotlight to announce publicly that they were in error. As others have suggested, Garrett may be consulting attorneys about his legal options.
re: #323 Scottish Dragon
He signed a letter that his buddy from thirty years ago was a good guy. Typical shit we all do at some point in our lives, and almost none of us go to that friend and interrogate him or her on where the skeletons are buried under what closet before we sign.
Who does this? I don’t sign a contract without reading it and I’m certainly not putting my own reputation on the line for someone I don’t explicitly feel deserves it. Someone I’m not in regular touch with? Never.
re: #357 gwangung
Are YOU kidding me?
OF COURSE HE DOES!
Don’t be an idiot.
Tell me what he needs to decide at this point? Specifically.
Don’t be an idiot either.
re: #353 gwangung
Yeah, exactly. He’s not a professional.
It’s a glaring example of the non-existent regard conservatism has for individual conservatives. An example that I expect the vast majority of conservatives will completely fail to incorporate into their decision making paradigm.
re: #342 Old Liberal
IF he didn’t have information then, why WOULD HE NOT recant his signature now?
I have no sympathy for these people until they OWN IT. He fucked up. He should admit it instead of running around being the victim.
If I wrote a fucking recommendation for someone two weeks ago and just found out they were arrested for child abuse, you better believe I’d be all over retracting that.
I’ll type this real, real slow:
HE. IS. IN. FUCKING. CLASS. WITH. CHILDREN. RIGHT. NOW. AND. HE. IS. WELL. ADVISED. TO. SAY. NOT. ONE. GOD. DAMNED. WORD. TO. ADD. TO. THIS. UNTIL. HE. TALKS. TO. THE. SCHOOL. DISTRICT. SUPERINTENDENT. AND. A. PRIVATE. ATTORNEY.
So let me tell you straight, old liberal. I’m a fucking teacher. Not in class right now today. I was on the bad end of a media frenzy two years ago. Some of you remember that.
MY SCHOOL DISTRICT ADVISED ME TO SHUT MY MOUTH AND SAY NOTHING AT ALL TO ANY FUCKING BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
re: #324 Stanley Sea
Everyone needs to read this.
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I can’t stop thinking about it.
It was awful. Someone called it heartening. They obviously read it far differently than I.
re: #314 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Well, I guess people should stop fishing down stream, for around a generation
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re: #359 Hecuba’s daughter
It’s not as though he is a well-known person in the public eye. Who knows how closely he is following any of this? We sometimes assume that because we are glued to the TV or the Internet watching the twists and turns of an important political drama that others are equally engaged. The 65 women who signed the letter of support AFTER the initial allegations were publicized did not come forward to make an official retraction: it required journalists making followup calls to show that only two still affirmed their support. It’s hard for citizens who are not accustomed to the spotlight to announce publicly that they were in error. As others have suggested, Garrett may be consulting attorneys about his legal options.
Explain please what his legal exposure is??????
He signed a letter.
He is changing his mind.
What civil or criminal statute does that possibly violate?
That didn’t take long.
Cody Wilson was arrested in Taiwan and will likely be deported to the U.S. to face accusations that he sexually assaulted a 16-year-old girl.https://t.co/KhU7i5lX76— Andy Campbell (@AndyBCampbell) September 21, 2018
re: #366 Old Liberal
Explain please what his legal exposure is??????
Not Garrett’s exposure, Whelan’s.
re: #324 Stanley Sea
Everyone needs to read this.
[harrowing piece]
I can’t stop thinking about it.
That combination spells ‘Do Not Click’ in my book.
re: #361 Old Liberal
Tell me what he needs to decide at this point? Specifically.
Don’t be an idiot either.
Consult with a lawyer first thing. And one who has SOME experience with politics; the average family lawyer can’t do it.
That means gathering recommendations from trusted associates (that MIGHT mean your family lawyer if you have one; if you don’t, add time. If your family lawyer doesn’t know anybody, add time).
Contact and set up appointment with said lawyer. Check budget and see if you can afford said lawyer.
At the meeting, go over strategy, close off areas of possible problems or liability. Spend time crafting a statement that minimizes exposure.
Remember. This person is an amateur, almost certainly not experienced in publicity. All these steps are sensible and takes time to execute.
You’re trash. I ask that you resign, and that a responsible adult take charge.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 21, 2018
re: #363 Scottish Dragon
I’ll type this real, real slow:
HE. IS. IN. FUCKING. CLASS. WITH. CHILDREN. RIGHT. NOW. AND. HE IS. WELL. ADVISED. TO. SAY. NOT. ONE. GOD. DAMNED. WORD. TO. ADD. TO. THIS. UNTIL. HE. TALKS. TO. THE. SCHOOL. DISTRICT. SUPERINTENDENT. AND. A. PRIVATE. ATTORNEY.
So let me tell your straight, old liberal. I’m a fucking teacher. Not in class right now today. I was on the bad end of a media frenzy two years ago. Some of you remember that.
MY SCHOOL DISTRICT ADVISED ME TO SHUT MY MOUTH AND SAY NOTHING AT ALL TO ANY FUCKING BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I think you know this situation WAYYYYYY better than the rest of us.
re: #370 gwangung
Consult with a lawyer first thing. And one who has SOME experience with politics; the average family lawyer can’t do it.
That means gathering recommendations from trusted associates (that MIGHT mean your family lawyer if you have one; if you don’t, add time. If your family lawyer doesn’t know anybody, add time).
Contact and set up appointment with said lawyer. Check budget and see if you can afford said lawyer.
At the meeting, go over strategy, close off areas of possible problems or liability. Spend time crafting a statement that minimizes exposure.
Remember. This person is an amateur, almost certainly not experienced in publicity. All these steps are sensible and takes time to execute.
He absolutely has to talk to the school district, preferably this afternoon. You can imagine that the school has already gotten calls. Anything he says at this point can mean his job. Best to say nothing at all. Period.
re: #317 Targetpractice
Much like the letter of 65 women who swear Brett Kavanaugh never raped them, Whelon’s sudden “revelation” reeks of something that was coordinated with an eye towards discrediting any potential accusers.
I keep reminding Senator Portman in my contact messages that it seems the Republican party can do nothing straight up and above board. Everything is a scheme, a dodge and messing around with the rules. From Gerrymandering to outright lying Republicans have become nothing but dirty-dealing scum.
Does America need a political party like that? Hell no. They really need to be slapped down hard to the point they have to consider breaking it up because their party has become toxic and unsalvageable.
re: #365 austin_blue
Coal ash concentrates heavy metals. It’s bad shit.
A lot of people are saying arsenic, beryllium, cadmium, barium, chromium, copper, lead, mercury, molybdenum, nickel, radium, selenium, thorium, uranium, vanadium, and zinc is good for the digestion, and promotes a healthy gut & bowel
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re: #373 Scottish Dragon
He absolutely has to talk to the school district, preferably this afternoon. You can imagine that the school has already gotten calls. Anything he says at this point can mean his job. Best to say nothing at all. Period.
Yes. (And hope he doesn”t get conflicting advice).
re: #360 MsJ
Who does this? I don’t sign a contract without reading it and I’m certainly not putting my own reputation on the line for someone I don’t explicitly feel deserves it. Someone I’m not in regular touch with? Never.
Maybe you’re not a partisan hack.
Listen, you can feel bad for Garrett while also laughing at white male patriarchal supremacy mercilessly attempting to sacrifice one of its own.
Karma may not be real, but it is funny.— Mr Toad’s Wild Ride (@goddamnedfrank) September 21, 2018
re: #368 goddamnedfrank
Not Garrett’s exposure, Whelan’s.
Yep. That was my intended point. There may be a large number of people at risk, not just Whelan but everyone who was involved in the Whelan twitter feed or who was aware of it, including Kavanaugh. If Garrett did not offer himself as a willing sacrifice but was blindsided by this attack, he would have an excellent case of slander that could be pursued in the courts but it’s only an attorney that can advise him on what he should do.
Hmmm — I wonder if Avenatti is available?
When it comes to Trump’s declassification gambit, it’s been quite a five-day stretch. https://t.co/UYj6Wz2Iix pic.twitter.com/uOee35ZUvB
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen) September 21, 2018
re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
A lot of people are saying arsenic, beryllium, cadmium, barium, chromium, copper, lead, mercury, molybdenum, nickel, radium, selenium, thorium, uranium, vanadium, and zinc is good for the digestion, and promotes a healthy gut & bowel
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Several of those are in multi-vitamins. It’s like free vitamins for the people downstream.
re: #379 Hecuba’s daughter
Yep. That was my intended point. There may be a large number of people at risk, not just Whelan but everyone who was involved in the Whelan twitter feed or who was aware of it, including Kavanaugh. If Garrett did not offer himself as a willing sacrifice but was blindsided by this attack, he would have an excellent case of slander that could be pursued in the courts but it’s only an attorney that can advise him on what he should do.
Hmmm — I wonder if Avenatti is available?
The guy he framed is said to be a Kavanaugh supporter, in which case there will be no lawsuit.
re: #382 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
The guy he framed is said to be a Kavanaugh supporter, in which case there will be no lawsuit.
Well Whelan isn’t Kavanaugh, and being cynically framed for rape is a lot to ask of anybody.
re: #377 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
Maybe you’re not a partisan hack.
This is not a partisan issue. It’s a reputational issue as in my reputation. I could never sign anything other than “I went to school with him” (and that’s assuming I recognized him or at least his name) because I’m never going to say ABC is a good guy if I don’t know he’s a good guy.
If this is something done just because one is expected to be polite, it’s completely meaningless.
re: #360 MsJ
Who does this? I don’t sign a contract without reading it and I’m certainly not putting my own reputation on the line for someone I don’t explicitly feel deserves it. Someone I’m not in regular touch with? Never.
This is all basic job networking stuff. At some point you get used as a job reference or have to ask someone else to be one for you. Kavanaugh asked a LOT of people for personal references because SCOTUS is a big deal.
You cannot possibly know everything about a person you act as a reference for and likewise nobody can know all of you history when they agree to be a reference for you.
re: #381 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
A lot of people are saying arsenic, beryllium, cadmium, barium, chromium, copper, lead, mercury, molybdenum, nickel, radium, selenium, thorium, uranium, vanadium, and zinc is good for the digestion, and promotes a healthy gut & bowel
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Several of those are in multi-vitamins. It’s like free vitamins for the people downstream.
Yeah: especially the radium and uranium - I don’t think Vitamin Shoppe and GNC carry those supplements anymore.
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re: #383 goddamnedfrank
Well Whelan isn’t Kavanaugh, and being cynically framed for rape is a lot to ask of anybody.
True.
re: #385 Scottish Dragon
This is all basic job networking stuff. At some point you get used as a job reference or have to ask someone else to be one for you. Kavanaugh asked a LOT of people for personal references because SCOTUS is a big deal.
You cannot possibly know everything about a person you act as a reference for and likewise nobody can know all of you history when they agree to be a reference for you.
Forgive me but I would never do this. Never.
References are supposed to be just that; personal acknowledgements. If they’re not there pointless and meaningless.
Orrin Hatch’s communications director knew about it. He deleted the tweet. pic.twitter.com/HebXOghuKJ
— Hayan (@HAyan744) September 21, 2018
There was some pretty obvious evidence of coordination, until Hatch’s comms director deleted his tweet. https://t.co/o8P0QjdVLF
— David Aames (@DavidAames23001) September 21, 2018
re: #367 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
I went to go look him up:
Cody Rutledge Wilson is an American crypto-anarchist, free-market anarchist, and gun-rights activist, best known as a founder/director of Defense Distributed, a non-profit organization that develops and publishes open source gun designs, so-called “wiki weapons”, suitable for 3D printing and digital manufacture.
You should not be allowed to write your own wikipedia entry.
re: #375 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
A lot of people are saying arsenic, beryllium, cadmium, barium, chromium, copper, lead, mercury, molybdenum, nickel, radium, selenium, thorium, uranium, vanadium, and zinc is good for the digestion, and promotes a healthy gut & bowel
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re: #384 MsJ
This is not a partisan issue. It’s a reputational issue as in my reputation. I could never sign anything other than “I went to school with him” (and that’s assuming I recognized him or at least his name) because I’m never going to say ABC is a good guy if I don’t know he’s a good guy.
If this is something done just because one is expected to be polite, it’s completely meaningless.
If you were a partisan hack, it would be a partisan issue. The man is set to enslave women to the will of the Christian Taliban, so of course members of the CT would vouch for him.
re: #391 b.d.(my doppelganger did it)
NO COLLUSION!!
No RUSSIAN collusion. All the rest of it is perfectly allowed. :)
re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
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re: #388 MsJ
Forgive me but I would never do this. Never.
References are supposed to be just that; personal acknowledgements. If they’re not there pointless and meaningless.
Um, they are really kinda pointless and meaningless after a certain point (they mean a lot if you are trying to get into a certain industry out of college…not so much if you are an executive VP changing to another company).
That is why I said they are really just a social nicety for someone like Kavanaugh. It’s window dressing.
On the lighter side. Just saw a Reagan-Bush ‘84 sticker in the drive they at lunch.
re: #388 MsJ
I would also bet that you have done this at some point without realizing it. It is nearly impossible to job hunt today without playing this game since the traditional apply for a job model has been completely broken by the mass firing of HR departments and using programs to scan resumes for code words that the applicants don’t know.
re: #385 Scottish Dragon
This is all basic job networking stuff. At some point you get used as a job reference or have to ask someone else to be one for you. Kavanaugh asked a LOT of people for personal references because SCOTUS is a big deal.
You cannot possibly know everything about a person you act as a reference for and likewise nobody can know all of you history when they agree to be a reference for you.re: #384 MsJ
This is not a partisan issue. It’s a reputational issue as in my reputation. I could never sign anything other than “I went to school with him” (and that’s assuming I recognized him or at least his name) because I’m never going to say ABC is a good guy if I don’t know he’s a good guy.
If this is something done just because one is expected to be polite, it’s completely meaningless.
I share your perspective. I would never write an endorsement of someone I knew thirty years ago and had not maintained a relationship. First, it is ludicrous, what does it even mean? Hire this guy I knew thirty years ago and haven’t been in contact with? Any credible employer would laugh before dumping such a letter in the trash. Second, it would be a very dangerous threat to my reputation.
re: #396 Scottish Dragon
Um, they are really kinda pointless and meaningless after a certain point (they mean a lot if you are trying to get into a certain industry out of college…not so much if you are an executive VP changing to another company).
That is why I said they are really just a social nicety for someone like Kavanaugh. It’s window dressing.
This depressed me beyond words. Seriously.
I’m starting to think the rules I live by are a fucking joke. Why be a good and decent fucking person when I’m the only one? (And I know I’m not the only one but the point remains.)
Fuck.
re: #398 HappyWarrior
On the lighter side. Just saw a Reagan-Bush ‘84 sticker in the drive they at lunch.
Back when things really started going to shit, laying the groundwork for our disastrous politics today.
re: #307 Mike Lamb
Correct. Hatch goes on TV a few days ago stating that Dr. Ford might be “mixed up”, and then this crazy, albeit very detailed, tweetstorm from Whelan magically appears? Total coincidence. Sure, right.
And prior to that idiotic tweetstorm, Kathleen Parker submitted her ‘doppelganger’ op-ed yesterday, in the ‘liberal’ Washington Post.
This was completely coordinated. But they were so intent on setting this narrative that no one bothered to notice how completely ridiculous it sounded. Even Whelan said he believed his dopey-ass ‘theory’ sounded more plausible than Ford’s story.
And they think they’re so goddamned smart. Morons.
@HNTurtledove, I found you used, but basically in good shape in Portugal. pic.twitter.com/tradK2osWj
— Betsy Miller (@BetsyMiller_) September 21, 2018
“Used but basically in good shape” sounds about right.
Oh, the book? 😜 https://t.co/h2LdWC22nC— Harry Turtledove (@HNTurtledove) September 21, 2018
re: #363 Scottish Dragon
I’ll type this real, real slow:
HE. IS. IN. FUCKING. CLASS. WITH. CHILDREN. RIGHT. NOW. AND. HE. IS. WELL. ADVISED. TO. SAY. NOT. ONE. GOD. DAMNED. WORD. TO. ADD. TO. THIS. UNTIL. HE. TALKS. TO. THE. SCHOOL. DISTRICT. SUPERINTENDENT. AND. A. PRIVATE. ATTORNEY.
So let me tell you straight, old liberal. I’m a fucking teacher. Not in class right now today. I was on the bad end of a media frenzy two years ago. Some of you remember that.
MY SCHOOL DISTRICT ADVISED ME TO SHUT MY MOUTH AND SAY NOTHING AT ALL TO ANY FUCKING BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just want to comment on the last point…if I was publicly slandered in a way that was unrelated to my professional responsibilities, my employer would have fuck all to say about what I should or shouldn’t do.
re: #401 MsJ
This depressed me beyond words. Seriously.
I’m starting to think the rules I live by are a fucking joke. Why be a good and decent fucking person when I’m the only one? (And I know I’m not the only one but the point remains.)
Fuck.
That’s why our whole society breaks down when our leaders are seen to be lawless scoundrels. There’s no reason for anyone to be honest in a corrupt state, which is why Russia is as bad as it is.
CNN presenting this as “meeting in the middle:
BREAKING ON CNN: the LIKELY - key word, likely - GOP counteroffer to Prof. Ford is as follows 1) hearing Wednesday, 2) Ford testifies first, #Kavanaugh second, 3) Independent counsel asks questions. via @DanaBashCNN @Phil_Mattingly
— Catherine Valentine (@CNNValentine) September 21, 2018
It seems that the Senate Judiciary has responded to Ford’s request:
Judiciary Commitee will make a counter offer to Dr. Ford: hearing on Wednesday, she goes first, committee gets to bring in an outside lawyer and no additional witnesses. The rest of her requests (on safety, TV pool, etc) will be accommodated, a GOP senator tells me
— Garrett Haake (@GarrettHaake) September 21, 2018
re: #355 Old Liberal
Are you kidding me? He needs several days to figure out that endorsing someone he barely knew who stands accused of reprehensible behavior, should be recanted? And he is competent to teach middle school? Tell me, what does he need to figure out? What side he is on? If she is lying?
Maybe he is just doing a disappearing act because he got himself way more into a mess than he ever expected by signing a letter. He could be so far in over his head that clamming up and trying to get it all to go away is all he can think to do right now.
That is a typical human response. I don’t know his character so I think it hard to say he would do what he should do.
We are just watching and we don’t have our butts in the fire. It’s real easy to think clearly in our positions…not so much in his.
re: #409 Belafon
It seems that the Senate Judiciary has responded to Ford’s request:
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Who is the independent counsel? Ken Starr?
EXCLUSIVE: Rosenstein discussed invoking the 25th Amendment to oust Trump in the days after Comey was fired in May 2017. Rosenstein also discussed wearing a wire to secretly record his conversations with Trump. https://t.co/lq3iWOqM1r w/@adamgoldmanNYT
— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) September 21, 2018
Addendum:
According to this news report, Rosenstein denies the report and adds:
Mr. Rosenstein disputed this account.
“The New York Times’s story is inaccurate and factually incorrect,” he said in a statement. “I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment.”
A Justice Department spokeswoman also provided a statement from a person who was present when Mr. Rosenstein proposed wearing a wire. The person, who would not be named, acknowledged the remark but said Mr. Rosenstein made it sarcastically.
In other words, yeah, it happened and people around me think Trump is unstable and deserving of the 25A.
re: #401 MsJ
This depressed me beyond words. Seriously.
I’m starting to think the rules I live by are a fucking joke. Why be a good and decent fucking person when I’m the only one? (And I know I’m not the only one but the point remains.)
Fuck.
Well, here is one more like you. I not only won’t sign shit like this, I won’t give a standing ovation to the middle school choir. I won’t put my flag at half staff every other day. There was a time when these things meant something. I think we lost something when standards were loosened for being social.
re: #361 Old Liberal
Tell me what he needs to decide at this point? Specifically.
Don’t be an idiot either.
He needs to decide if he should come out publicly so he can take even more heat.
We really need to remove all the GOP misogynists from office.
— Jeff “We call BS” Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) September 21, 2018
re: #411 Mike Lamb
Who is the independent counsel? Ken Starr?
From what I understand, they’re looking for a woman so the old white men don’t look directly foolish.
re: #401 MsJ
This depressed me beyond words. Seriously.
I’m starting to think the rules I live by are a fucking joke. Why be a good and decent fucking person when I’m the only one? (And I know I’m not the only one but the point remains.)
Fuck.
Preaching to the choir. My spouse graduated cum laude with a forensic biology degree from Guilford College two years ago and still cannot get a real job because networking bitches!!!
We don’t have the right friends and we didn’t come from the right families and she could not take months off work at Walgreens to do internships for free.
The acceptance rate for applying on a company website or submitting a resume is less than 1%
Everything is now pressing flesh and getting people to vouch for you who don’t know you from Adam. I cannot tell you how utterly demoralizing and disgusting the whole affair becomes. Every time you talk to somebody who might know someone who can get you a job, it feels like you are becoming a sort of hooker, so to speak.
re: #405 Mike Lamb
I just want to comment on the last point…if I was publicly slandered in a way that was unrelated to my professional responsibilities, my employer would have fuck all to say about what I should or shouldn’t do.
Schools have different rules.
Anything you do or say in your private life that has a bearing on the conduct of classroom is grounds for your termination. If the district wants to make a statement, then you let them do it.
I had to scrub years of facebook post and social media. I had to ban all people from posting anything at all on my FB page and I destroyed my old twitter feed and now write under a pseudonym because of school policies.
re: #420 Scottish Dragon
Preaching to the choir. My spouse graduated cum laude with a forensic biology degree from Guilford College two years ago and still cannot get a real job because networking bitches!!!
We don’t have the right friends and we didn’t come from the right families and she could not take months off work at Walgreens to do internships for free.
The acceptance rate for applying on a company website or submitting a resume is less than 1%
Everything is now pressing flesh and getting people to vouch for you who don’t know you from Adam. I cannot tell you how utterly demoralizing and disgusting the whole affair becomes. Every time you talk to somebody who might know someone who can get you a job, it feels like you are becoming a sort of hooker, so to speak.
I’m definitely convinced I’ve been victimized by the knowing people network.
re: #362 goddamnedfrank
It’s a glaring example of the non-existent regard conservatism has for individual conservatives. An example that I expect the vast majority of conservatives will completely fail to incorporate into their decision making paradigm.
Just another individual to use and then let him burn once they got him in the public fire. It is so Republican; what can you do for me while I will do nothing for you?
And that Trump base…they are all in that position. They are just too damn dim to understand they are being used and abused. Willing fools.
re: #410 ObserverArt
Maybe he is just doing a disappearing act because he got himself way more into a mess than he ever expected by signing a letter. He could be so far in over his head that clamming up and trying to get it all to go away is all he can think to do right now.
That is a typical human response. I don’t know his character so I think it hard to say he would do what he should do.
We are just watching and we don’t have our butts in the fire. It’s real easy to think clearly in our positions…not so much in his.
I accept your premise. Still, Art, I am reacting to people feeling sympathy for this person. He is not some innocent middle school teacher. He is a grown adult who foolishly endorsed someone he didn’t really know, and we all have know for a while about these credible accusations. I don’t find it believable that he isn’t paying attention to what is going on with a high school friend that he endorsed. Unbelievable. And before he was potentially set up as a potential rapist, he had time to go “you know, that letter I signed, not such a good idea. I’m going to retract that”. Now, if he chooses not to do that, or doesn’t know how to do that, so be it but don’t pull out the tiny violins. He fucked himself. Sure, get a lawyer, all that good stuff. My sympathy meter reads “Zero” and I don’t care how much shitstorm he gets. Not my problem.
They can’t be trusted to pick an IC. When they think someone like Kavanaugh should be a judge, you know independent.
re: #419 Belafon
re: #411 Mike Lamb
Who is the independent counsel? Ken Starr?
From what I understand, they’re looking for a woman so the old white men don’t look directly foolish.
“Judge” Jeanine Pirro.
re: #352 Ferdinand
This literally happened last night. Maybe he’s grading papers. Or finding a good lawyer.
I’ve been reading posts here and checking news now and then while I’m working. I haven’t heard anything about Garrett, and I’m more up-to-date on current happenings than most people!
Sure, they want Ford to testify first so Kavanaugh has time to prepare his lies, I mean rebuttals. Nothing shady there at all.
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) September 21, 2018
re: #428 Jay C
“Judge” Jeanine Pirro.
I expect they want to ask if she was aroused but they don’t want to do it themselves because they think that will be a tell.
Holocaust deniers use fraudulent methods to dismiss visual evidence of Nazi atrocities.
Russian Ministry of Defence used exactly such fake methods during their MH-17 presser to falsely claim the JIT evidence was fake.
Roman Popkov exposes the lies (RU): https://t.co/pnOfY5INIp— Confronting Denial (@AgainstDenial) September 21, 2018
re: #426 Old Liberal
My sympathy meter reads “Zero” and I don’t care how much shitstorm he gets. Not my problem
That could have been taken right out of the mouth of Paul Ryan or any other Randian conservative.
I thought empathy and decency were liberal values.
re: #412 lawhawk
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Addendum:
According to this news report, Rosenstein denies the report and adds:In other words, yeah, it happened and people around me think Trump is unstable and deserving of the 25A.
This one feels like a plant from the Trump admin as justification to shit can Rosenstein. It would frankly surprise me if he was discussing invoking the 25th Amendment.
This just happened. 😊 pic.twitter.com/3zXyB0ExwG
— Confronting Denial (@AgainstDenial) September 21, 2018
2. Notably it is the mirror image of a fake KGB plan by Yuri Bezmenov popular among the American conservatives https://t.co/VDX7YLSsof
It’s the usual “moral decay among the youth”, bla bla bla. Only the baddie changes - CIA in the Soviet/Russian version, KGB in the US version. pic.twitter.com/EeE0r2rMKQ— Confronting Denial (@AgainstDenial) September 21, 2018
4. sometimes mix it together with the Protocols and other antisemitic conspiracy theories, without appreciating the irony: Allen Dulles was himself an antisemite. pic.twitter.com/8rWmhQ5Ydd
— Confronting Denial (@AgainstDenial) September 21, 2018
re: #434 Scottish Dragon
That could have been taken right out of the mouth of Paul Ryan or any other Randian conservative.
I thought empathy and decency were liberal values.
I’m completely missing why I should be empathetic towards him.
re: #435 Mike Lamb
This one feels like a plant from the Trump admin as justification to shit can Rosenstein. It would frankly surprise me if he was discussing invoking the 25th Amendment.
Does reality matter?
re: #440 MsJ
Does reality matter?
Trump has been far less likely to proceed with something if he gets called out on it by enough people.
re: #434 Scottish Dragon
That could have been taken right out of the mouth of Paul Ryan or any other Randian conservative.
I thought empathy and decency were liberal values.
Empathy and sympathy are not at all the same thing. As for decency, what does that have to do with my stated position? When we have no sympathy for someone we become indecent?
re: #406 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis
That’s why our whole society breaks down when our leaders are seen to be lawless scoundrels. There’s no reason for anyone to be honest in a corrupt state, which is why Russia is as bad as it is.
We are sure as hell seeing that play out with all the public mouthing-off from enabled White bigots who get to release what they have held in for years.
Leaders set examples, good or bad. We are in the bad right now.
re: #439 MsJ
I’m completely missing why I should be empathetic towards him.
Because he is a middle class schmuck doing a thankless job and didn’t ask for this shit and doesn’t deserve it? He is one of the ones from that school who didn’t end up on the stratosphere track to riches and influence. Right now…at this very minute…he is lecturing or managing students who he is trying to get ready for the next test, the next assignment, the next whatever…and I cannot for the life of me understand what the hell happened to us to start treating victims of thuggish Republican callousness as actual enemies that we should mock or even help to destroy.
What the hell is wrong with us? Did we stare into the abyss too long? Do I need to remind everybody again that this is a middle school teacher and not a lobbyist, executive or peddler of influence?
He isn’t a player and we have no goddamned business treating him like one.
There are more bootleg Trump tapes than bootleg Grateful Dead tapes:
Breaking News: Rod Rosenstein, the official who appointed Robert Mueller, once proposed secretly taping President Trump and removing him via the 25th Amendmenthttps://t.co/p6Y30OxzRd
— The New York Times (@nytimes) September 21, 2018
re: #443 Old Liberal
I honestly do not understand you. I really don’t. At some point, your values and mine do not align.
re: #446 b.d.(my doppelganger did it)
There are more bootleg Trump tapes than bootleg Grateful Dead tapes:
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This is Rosenstein’s last day, that would be my guess.
re: #426 Old Liberal
I accept your premise. Still, Art, I am reacting to people feeling sympathy for this person. He is not some innocent middle school teacher. He is a grown adult who foolishly endorsed someone he didn’t really know, and we all have know for a while about these credible accusations. I don’t find it believable that he isn’t paying attention to what is going on with a high school friend that he endorsed. Unbelievable. And before he was potentially set up as a potential rapist, he had time to go “you know, that letter I signed, not such a good idea. I’m going to retract that”. Now, if he chooses not to do that, or doesn’t know how to do that, so be it but don’t pull out the tiny violins. He fucked himself. Sure, get a lawyer, all that good stuff. My sympathy meter reads “Zero” and I don’t care how much shitstorm he gets. Not my problem.
Is it sympathy or understanding?
I think too many times people think being understanding is condoning and excusing. It is not…it is just simple understanding.
We rush to judgement too much and the damn internet is no help. Why? because it is easy and it gives some a feeling of righteousness.
I wonder if I can get a paid internship?
75-year-old man who naps with cats while volunteering every day goes viral https://t.co/gRO9nYNsMw pic.twitter.com/oKeZI9qRLJ
— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 21, 2018
re: #409 Belafon
It seems that the Senate Judiciary has responded to Ford’s request:
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This is bullshit
It’s not a fucking cross examination
Don’t do it
re: #430 MsJ
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Defense always gets the last shot for rebuttal don’t they? It puts the onus on those accused to refute the contention.
The other way around puts the person making the charge on the defense which isn’t fair.
re: #432 Targetpractice
Bye Rod, it was nice knowing you.
Soon Rod will find he has always been a progressive liberal hippie and never a Republican at all.
re: #432 Targetpractice
Bye Rod, it was nice knowing you.
We’ll see. He still hasn’t fired Mattis who supposedly called him an idiot.
re: #434 Scottish Dragon
That could have been taken right out of the mouth of Paul Ryan or any other Randian conservative.
I thought empathy and decency were liberal values.
I’m gonna try a bit more understanding.
Old Liberal is just plain pissed off…right now.
Empathy may come later once the frustration is over.
re: #451 dangerman
This is bullshit
It’s not a fucking cross examination
Don’t do it
The bit about using an outside lawyer is really interesting to me. It signals to me that the Republican men (but I repeat myself) on the committee know they aren’t deft enough to ask questions without it blowing up in their faces. So bringing in a ringer, who I’m guessing is probably an employment law defense attorney, to basically conduct a deposition makes a certain amount of sense. But it also opens them up to questions of why they aren’t capable of doing their own jobs - I mean, we saw a lot of very old Senators (again, I repeat myself) ask very stupid questions about social media. I have a feeling this is going to not go particularly well for them, whatever the format - but I’m also not entirely sure they care.
And after listening to Pod Save America yesterday, I’m not entirely sure we won’t see a John Marshall situation after the midterms, with the Dems taking the Senate and McConnell saying “fuck it, hold a vote” whether it’s Kavaughan or not.
re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth
Translated from the original Russian????
re: #455 Belafon
We’ll see. He still hasn’t fired Mattis who supposedly called him an idiot.
Mattis isn’t the lynchpin to dismantling the investigation that could end his presidency.
re: #454 Nyet
And soon goodbye Mueller, I guess.
I don’t think Trump pulls the trigger on Rosenstein or Mueller unless the GOP retains control of both Houses of Congress. The GOP will give him cover and we’ll have to wait until 2020 to do anything. But if the Dems take the House, he’s looking at impeachment if he tries a Saturday Night Massacre move. Now, maybe the Senate GOP saves him in impeachment, but he’s still going to be facing multiple Congressional investigations for the next two years, and he won’t be able to control himself when that shit-luge hits him.
re: #457 KGxvi
The bit about using an outside lawyer is really interesting to me. It signals to me that the Republican men (but I repeat myself) on the committee know they aren’t deft enough to ask questions without it blowing up in their faces. So bringing in a ringer, who I’m guessing is probably an employment law defense attorney, to basically conduct a deposition makes a certain amount of sense. But it also opens them up to questions of why they aren’t capable of doing their own jobs - I mean, we saw a lot of very old Senators (again, I repeat myself) ask very stupid questions about social media. I have a feeling this is going to not go particularly well for them, whatever the format - but I’m also not entirely sure they care.
And after listening to Pod Save America yesterday, I’m not entirely sure we won’t see a John Marshall situation after the midterms, with the Dems taking the Senate and McConnell saying “fuck it, hold a vote” whether it’s Kavaughan or not.
It’s not even that they’re deft enough to ask the questions, but that there isn’t a single woman on the panel of GOPers who can ask questions. The use of proxies - lawyers - to ask is meant to sidestep the optics of an all white older male panel of GOPers trying to attack a credible woman who accuses a loyal right wing extremist of being a sex predator.
After the GOP refused to hold a vote for Garland, that they’ll turn around and lame duck whoever Trump serves up with a rubber stamp will be particularly galling and remind everyone that the GOP doesn’t give a shit about the rule of law or the rules, but whatever can give them absolute power and overturn Roe, Griswold, and roll back civil/voting rights and the safety net, all while giving millionaires like Trump all the benefits and none of the harms while everyone deals with the burdens.
re: #457 KGxvi
The bit about using an outside lawyer is really interesting to me. It signals to me that the Republican men (but I repeat myself) on the committee know they aren’t deft enough to ask questions without it blowing up in their faces. So bringing in a ringer, who I’m guessing is probably an employment law defense attorney, to basically conduct a deposition makes a certain amount of sense. But it also opens them up to questions of why they aren’t capable of doing their own jobs - I mean, we saw a lot of very old Senators (again, I repeat myself) ask very stupid questions about social media. I have a feeling this is going to not go particularly well for them, whatever the format - but I’m also not entirely sure they care.
And after listening to Pod Save America yesterday, I’m not entirely sure we won’t see a John Marshall situation after the midterms, with the Dems taking the Senate and McConnell saying “fuck it, hold a vote” whether it’s Kavaughan or not.
im only focusing on the setup
it presupposes she cant just make a statement and answer questions truthfully
that it needs a professional questioner, an ‘order’ and borders on the trappings of a trial, not a congressional hearing
re: #457 KGxvi
The bit about using an outside lawyer is really interesting to me. It signals to me that the Republican men (but I repeat myself) on the committee know they aren’t deft enough to ask questions without it blowing up in their faces. So bringing in a ringer, who I’m guessing is probably an employment law defense attorney, to basically conduct a deposition makes a certain amount of sense. But it also opens them up to questions of why they aren’t capable of doing their own jobs - I mean, we saw a lot of very old Senators (again, I repeat myself) ask very stupid questions about social media. I have a feeling this is going to not go particularly well for them, whatever the format - but I’m also not entirely sure they care.
And after listening to Pod Save America yesterday, I’m not entirely sure we won’t see a John Marshall situation after the midterms, with the Dems taking the Senate and McConnell saying “fuck it, hold a vote” whether it’s Kavaughan or not.
It’s the difference between the Senate and the House. The senators are functional idiots (for the most part), and understand their limitations. Not so much in the House. Gym Jordan, Meadows, etc., would be asking why she’s a slut and how many other guys she banged that night.
re: #460 KGxvi
Hope you’re right, but remember - it’s Trump.
FAST, BUILD A DAMN WALL
Sarah Palin plans to leave Alaska https://t.co/f1otibJ5C9 pic.twitter.com/lR7QoeLuoP
— The Hill (@thehill) September 21, 2018
re: #461 lawhawk
It’s not even that they’re deft enough to ask the questions, but that there isn’t a single woman on the panel of GOPers who can ask questions. The use of proxies - lawyers - to ask is meant to sidestep the optics of an all white older male panel of GOPers trying to attack a credible woman who accuses a loyal right wing extremist of being a sex predator.
After the GOP refused to hold a vote for Garland, that they’ll turn around and lame duck whoever Trump serves up with a rubber stamp will be particularly galling and remind everyone that the GOP doesn’t give a shit about the rule of law or the rules, but whatever can give them absolute power and overturn Roe, Griswold, and roll back civil/voting rights and the safety net, all while giving millionaires like Trump all the benefits and none of the harms while everyone deals with the burdens.
I get the optics issue, but it opens them up to all sorts of other criticisms.
As for a lame duck appointment and confirmation, it wouldn’t surprise me, now that I’ve thought about it some more. But I’m also willing to bet they figure that most voters wouldn’t remember by 2020 anyway. I’d hope they’re wrong, but I suspect they’d be right on that calculus.
re: #457 KGxvi
And after listening to Pod Save America yesterday, I’m not entirely sure we won’t see a John Marshall situation after the midterms, with the Dems taking the Senate and McConnell saying “fuck it, hold a vote” whether it’s Kavanaugh or not.
I don’t think so. McConnell’s on a sworn mission to get Kavanaugh onto the SC, regardless of any other circumstances, and to do so ASAP. If he can’t get the votes in September or October, he’s not going to have them in November. And if he doesn’t have the votes (or doesn’t think he has), Brett Kavanaugh will likely decide that spending more time with his lawyers family is a better option, and withdraw - rather than give Democrats the “win” of seeing Trump’s (heartily-endorsed) nominee get shot down. Especially if the election is looming.
re: #465 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
FAST, BUILD A DAMN WALL
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I thought she was already living in Arizona? Or did the sight of so many brown people scare her off?
Anyone else getting the feeling that the people that fed this story to the NYT were doing so in hopes of enraging Dotard into firing Rosenstein?
BREAKING: “Rosenstein Suggested He Secretly Record Trump and Discussed 25th Amendment” #MAGA #TrumpTrain #Dobbshttps://t.co/eeXvNOdiJ0
— Lou Dobbs (@LouDobbs) September 21, 2018
re: #467 Jay C
I don’t think so. McConnell’s on a sworn mission to get Kavanaugh onto the SC, regardless of any other circumstances, and to do so ASAP. If he can’t get the votes in September or October, he’s not going to have them in November. And if he doesn’t have the votes (or doesn’t think he has), Brett Kavanaugh will likely decide that spending more time with his
lawyersfamily is a better option, and withdraw - rather than give Democrats the “win” of seeing Trump’s (heartily-endorsed) nominee get shot down. Especially if the election is looming.
McConnell didn’t want Kavanaugh, from what I’ve read, knew there was too much of a paper trail, and that it’d be a shitshow. A lame duck appointment comes with Kavanaugh withdrawing or not getting confirmed and Trump/McConnell trying to force someone through before the Dems have control.
Happening in my state right now:
BREAKING: APNewsBreak: Duke Energy says dam breached at plant in North Carolina; coal ash may be flowing into Cape Fear River
— The Associated Press (@AP) September 21, 2018
Scene. Writers room.
Writer: And then under the anti-environmentalist president there are more severe hurricanes leading is a dam break, sending coal ash into a river….
Producer: Fuck off.
Writer: ….and get this, the river is Cape Fear!
Producer: FUCK OFF!!!! https://t.co/muRc29SxSY— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) September 21, 2018
re: #366 Old Liberal
Explain please what his legal exposure is??????
He signed a letter.
He is changing his mind.What civil or criminal statute does that possibly violate?
He was, in effect, accused of being the guy who tried to rape Professor Ford.
That’s WAY different than just retracting a statement of support.
Were I this teacher, I’d be looking for the best lawyer I could afford, and keeping mum until I had one.
I see your point. But he’s in a little deeper than ‘a dude who signed on to a letter’ at this point.
re: #471 Scottish Dragon
Seems like only yesterday Scott Pruitt was beaming with pride after withdrawing federal oversight over coal ash storage and monitoring
re: #465 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Scottsdale, AZ
re: #445 Scottish Dragon
Because he is a middle class schmuck doing a thankless job and didn’t ask for this shit and doesn’t deserve it? He is one of the ones from that school who didn’t end up on the stratosphere track to riches and influence. Right now…at this very minute…he is lecturing or managing students who he is trying to get ready for the next test, the next assignment, the next whatever…and I cannot for the life of me understand what the hell happened to us to start treating victims of thuggish Republican callousness as actual enemies that we should mock or even help to destroy.
What the hell is wrong with us? Did we stare into the abyss too long? Do I need to remind everybody again that this is a middle school teacher and not a lobbyist, executive or peddler of influence?
He isn’t a player and we have no goddamned business treating him like one.
Would you have the same intensity of feeling if he was a plumber? Or the property manager who was fired for challenging black people at the pool? I am sorry for your real life experience, it must have been awful for you. I have been wrung through the legal system because I made a dumb decision in pursuit of a dream, was defrauded, and spent three years and hundreds of thousands of dollars defending myself against a criminal who used the money I paid him, as his legal funding to try to destroy me. But I won’t give people of my profession a pass because of my horrific experience. My nemesis should not have defrauded me, but I signed the line with my own hand. So did this guy, regardless of profession.
re: #465 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
Two questions:
1. For Russia?
2. For good?
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Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ... Cheechako
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
