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Alephnaught  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:08:32am

FRIST!!! (?)

Sorry to go OT already, but this was too good to ignore. A mural commemorating the leader of indie legends The Fall- on the side of a chip shop. Can’t get more Mark E. Smith than that.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:11:44am

Brought up from downstairs because what is wrong with these people?

These people are sub human

Rep. Kevin Cramer (R-ND), who is running for Senate against Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), told Valley News Live suggested that the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh are not disqualifying “even if it’s all true.”

Said Cramer: “Even if it’s all true, does it disqualify him? It certainly means that he did something really bad 36 years ago, but does it disqualify him from the Supreme Court?”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:13:30am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:13:58am

re: #2 dangerman

Brought up from downstairs because what is wrong with these people?

These people are sub human

Rep. Kevin Cramer (R-ND), who is running for Senate against Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), told Valley News Live suggested that the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh are not disqualifying “even if it’s all true.”

Said Cramer: “Even if it’s all true, does it disqualify him? It certainly means that he did something really bad 36 years ago, but does it disqualify him from the Supreme Court?”

It’s amazing how this same party also opposes allowing felons who have served their time to vote but that also thinks that even if this is true that Augh should join SCOTUS. I’m really tired of Kavanaugh and the non stop excuses being made for him. Just withdraw all ready you functioning drunk asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:15:36am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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A con game, you say? Nah that sounds more like the people over eager to describe Kavanaugh as this boy scout who never had sex in high school and in college and who didn’t drink. Fucking asshole. Gah it was just last week when the Post was praising his “restraint” on Ford. Goddamn I hate these guys.

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CarolJ  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:17:33am

It ignores of course, the truism-‘if he did it once, what would have stopped him from doing it again?’ I mean he never had any repercussions, maybe not even criticism for his actions. And with people willing to cover for him even if his victim happened to complain, what would make him stop? Indeed we should be asking if he ever stopped or when did he stop. Yes, as an adult, things are a bit more complicated, but still….

I’m at the point where I’m wondering if there’s a dead body somewhere mixed up in this. Seriously, given the methodology of what happened to Ford, it’s preplanned and deliberate, and when it is, things escalate. I’d wonder about those “teenage accidents” in their circle and take a second look.

One more thing, why must it be this guy anyway? There are certainly more people who don’t have shady backgrounds who would qualify for the Court. And why so fast? Trump is still going to be President after the midterms, and still be a Republican. The religious right will still get their judge-a little more principled, but still mostly on their side of the fence.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:17:41am
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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:19:57am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:20:26am

You know, Kavanaugh’s team and statements would be more credible if they weren’t overzealous to act like he was this great guy in HS. A lot of the defenses I’ve seen of him “Well he’s not the same person he was then”, may well be but he’s acting like he WAS this perfect angel in high school and college. I’m sorry but the evidence that we’ve seen shows a young man who did not respect women or know how to hold his booze. Is it enough in a court of law to convict? At this moment, no but is it enough to deny him a LIFELONG appointment where he’d be ruling on law for easily the next quarter century, fuck yes. And he’s got other issues too.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:20:31am

If the Avenatti allegations are actually true, it is understandable that no women who were subject to these attacks will come forward; it would embarrass them today and make their lives today a living nightmare. How will they face their offspring, colleagues, and spouses? Because of the atrocious double standard that remains in force today, only a man who subsequently developed a conscience might be willing to testify, a woman would be branded a slut.

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:20:37am

So much winning

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:21:10am

re: #8 gocart mozart

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Bye Bill. And Ben’s Chili bowl, more MLK mural, less Cosby mural.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:21:44am

So Trump said the Democrats are pulling a “con” of Kavanaugh’s nomination.

And obstructing.

I think my projection meter’s sensors just melted down. They couldn’t process that much bullshit, overloaded and then shut down from over-heating.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:21:47am

re: #10 Hecuba’s daughter

If the Avenatti allegations are actually true, it is understandable that no women who were subject to these attacks will come forward; it would embarrass them today and make their lives today a living nightmare. How will they face their offspring, colleagues, and spouses? Because of the atrocious double standard that remains in force today, only a man who subsequently developed a conscience might be willing to testify, a woman would be branded a slut.

We already saw that Ford got death threats. I don’t blame her for weighing her options.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:21:49am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

This sort of completely made my day:

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” Trump said, as he does.

“So true,” said Trump, clearly caught by surprise by the laughter. “I didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s OK,” he added to more laughter and some applause.

Trump tried his “I’m the best EVAH!” bullshit at the General Assembly and they literally laughed at him.

I mean, it’s probably not good, generally, that POTUS is a laughstock. But it’s probably doubly not good when the president is an insecure WATB with no self-awareness like the current jackass.

Edited to add link

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:24:09am

Either way, Kavanaugh definitely wasn’t the most vetted over SCOTUS candidate. He lied about that. May not have been under oath but it speaks to his credibility.

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b.d.(i like beer)  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:25:35am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Either way, Kavanaugh definitely wasn’t the most vetted over SCOTUS candidate. He lied about that. May not have been under oath but it speaks to his credibility.

He could be the most vetted but Trump liked those traits…

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:26:44am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:27:02am

re: #15 KGxvi

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country,” Trump said, as he does.

“Like what?”

…..

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:27:34am

Trump getting laughed at the UN today reminds me of how we felt as a country when Ahmadinjad made similar absurd claims.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:27:44am

re: #17 b.d.(true to form)

He could be the most vetted but Trump liked those traits…

Burn!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:28:36am

re: #18 gocart mozart

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Murphy needs to consider running or at least get looked at for VP. He’s sharp, a great attack dog, and gets it.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:30:31am

re: #15 KGxvi

This sort of completely made my day:

Trump tried his “I’m the best EVAH!” bullshit at the General Assembly and they literally laughed at him.

I mean, it’s probably not good, generally, that POTUS is a laughstock. But it’s probably doubly not good when the president is an insecure WATB with no self-awareness like the current jackass.

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“We’ve accomplished a lot, we really have. And by ‘we’ I mean, ‘me”. I’m the one. Without me these people are nothing. You know what we’ve done? Let’s see. We pulled out of the Paris Climate Accords, whatever. Pulled outta that. We ripped up the Iran Nuke Treaty, killed it, really. We’ve ended so much stuff. Withdrawn from a bunch a things. Total accomplishments.”

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:30:39am
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:30:54am

re: #18 gocart mozart

Murphy’s right. When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:31:03am

re: #19 Sir John Barron

“Like what?”

…..

Like doing more to reduce the authority and respect of our nation? Like doing more to increase Putin’s status throughout the world? Like doing more to contribute to the Decline and Fall of the American Empire (book to be published in the next year)?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:32:39am

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

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A perfect description of Brexit. Bloody brilliant.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:33:37am

I just heard a second interview with Jill Lapore on her new book, These Truths. Had to buy it. It will take some serious work to get through it: covers American history from Columbus to Trump. But at $19.99 for a Nook book, that’s a deal.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:34:23am
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:34:30am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Murphy needs to consider running or at least get looked at for VP. He’s sharp, a great attack dog, and gets it.

He seems more like a VP pick than a presidential contender.

I have a feeling the frontrunners for the Dems are going to be non-white and likely not male. But I could be wrong on that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:35:43am

re: #30 KGxvi

He seems more like a VP pick than a presidential contender.

I have a feeling the frontrunners for the Dems are going to be non-white and likely not male. But I could be wrong on that.

I’m fine with that. Both him as a running mate or the front runner being non white and or male. I’d prefer they be under 60 if possible too.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:36:03am

re: #29 Charles Johnson

An alliance built over 242 years. And all it takes is one stupid little man to ruin it.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:37:07am
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:37:36am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

I’m fine with that. Both him as a running mate or the front runner being non white and or male. I’d prefer they be under 60 if possible too.

Age will probably be the biggest determining factor for me (not that it really matters as a) I’m not a Democrat, and b) while I can vote in the Democratic primary, I’m in California, which means the nomination will likely be determined before I vote in June). Temperament will also be high on the list.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:38:34am

re: #32 KGxvi

An alliance built over 242 years. And all it takes is one stupid little man to ruin it.

Difficult to build that since we’ve worked on World Wars, the Cold War, etc together but easy to destroy with one ego. We’re going to need someone who understands FP to replace Trump and some excellent diplomatic picks. I wouldn’t mind Biden for SoS TBH. I’m more high on him for a role like than POTUS.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:38:39am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

I’m fine with that. Both him as a running mate or the front runner being non white and or male. I’d prefer they be under 60 if possible too.

Pelosi would give rightwingers the kind of complacency the Democrats suffered under last time. Then she would kick ass. For two terms.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:39:20am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

If the Dems take over Congress, or even one House… what’s the over/under on Cabinet resignations between election day and March 2019?

4.5?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:39:22am

re: #33 goddamnedfrank

Why am I not surprised. Everything DT has done has not made America great; it has made us a laughingstock.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:40:09am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:40:45am

Elie Honig, a former assistant U.S. attorney in New Jersey: “If Hatch gets his way, however, a federal pardon would essentially block a subsequent state-level prosecution.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:40:56am

re: #34 KGxvi

Age will probably be the biggest determining factor for me (not that it really matters as a) I’m not a Democrat, and b) while I can vote in the Democratic primary, I’m in California, which means the nomination will likely be determined before I vote in June). Temperament will also be high on the list.

I know people don’t like hearing about the age but the idea of 73 year old Trump and 79 year old Bernie just sounds like a recipe to depress turnout. May as well have Slater and Waldorf debate. At least it would be funny and we wouldn’t feel we were being yelled at. Temperament is a good attribute too though. I always did admire Obama’s calmness. Another attribute I look for is delegation and leadership. Who are you surrounding yourself with? Bernie again lost me when he had people like Davine and Comic Book Guy Jeff on his staff.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:41:48am

re: #36 wrenchwench

Pelosi would give rightwingers the kind of complacency the Democrats suffered under last time. Then she would kick ass. For two terms.

I really admire her like hell but she turns 80 in 2020. Plus we’d lose a great legislative leader too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:42:17am

re: #39 jaunte

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Awfully curious that he’s arguing this now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:42:32am

re: #40 jaunte

Elie Honig, a former assistant U.S. attorney in New Jersey: “If Hatch gets his way, however, a federal pardon would essentially block a subsequent state-level prosecution.”

That’s exactly what Hatch wants.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:44:00am

re: #43 HappyWarrior

A spokesman for the Utah senator noted that he has been working to undo restraints on white collar criminals for years, but the spokesman tidied that thought up.

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uncah91  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:44:48am

re: #40 jaunte

Elie Honig, a former assistant U.S. attorney in New Jersey: “If Hatch gets his way, however, a federal pardon would essentially block a subsequent state-level prosecution.”

I think their is much more going on here than just Trump stuff. RBG (IIRC) has been banging this double-jeopardy drum for a while. Basically state prosecutors offer plea deals to get people to plead guilty, then hand the case to the feds so they don’t have to abide by the plea deal.

ETA: I agree it’s a really bad look for SCOTUS, right now, though.

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Alephnaught  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:45:08am

re: #32 KGxvi

An alliance built over 242 years. And all it takes is one stupid little man to ruin it.

To be honest, it was already starting to get strained round about the “freedom fries” era…

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:46:08am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I really admire her like hell but she turns 80 in 2020. Plus we’d lose a great legislative leader too.

You see 80 as old. I used to, but Mr. w turns 80 next Feb. He’s still kicking ass and taking names.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:46:19am

re: #39 jaunte

Here’s the thing, I don’t necessarily disagree with Hatch on this. There is an issue of preemption and whether allowing a state government to go after someone after a federal pardon (or even arguably, the other way around), fits with the goals of the constitution.

Yes, Trump would be likely to abuse the power, because he’s Trump. But that’s why we (at least in theory) have the check of impeachment and removal for when a president so blatantly abuses his power.

Ultimately, this goes to the legal issue where we recognize not only the federal government as sovereign but also the states. Though our history, we have curtailed the sovereignty of the states more and more, and this is likely just another step in that direction.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:46:49am

re: #47 Alephnaught

To be honest, it was already starting to get strained round about the “freedom fries” era…

I would have said that Obama repaired a lot of that damage. You disagree?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:48:09am

re: #32 KGxvi

An alliance built over 242 years. And all it takes is one stupid little man to ruin it.

It isn’t one stupid man — it’s the 63 million stupid Americans who voted for him plus the Jill Stein voters.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:48:11am

re: #47 Alephnaught

To be honest, it was already starting to get strained round about the “freedom fries” era…

True. God that was some stupid shit. One of the Republicans behind that crap is now a Ron Paul type Republican I shit you not and the other I think got indicted.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:48:16am

Has Donnie pardoned Bill Cosby yet?

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:48:44am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:48:57am

re: #53 Dr. Matt

Has Donnie pardoned Bill Cosby yet?

Ha, state charges. He can’t.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:49:45am

re: #54 gocart mozart

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Mac from It’s Always Sunny as him and the lady who played Molly on the first season of Fargo the TV show can play her.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:50:04am

re: #50 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I would have said that Obama repaired a lot of that damage. You disagree?

The newly-healed wounds are the easiest to re-open. Trump is out to undo everything Obama did. He has had some successes.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:50:04am

re: #53 Dr. Matt

re: #55 HappyWarrior

DT will try. He does not understand that he is not an absolute ruler.

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Dr. Matt  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:50:22am

re: #55 HappyWarrior

Ha, state charges. He can’t.

Do you think that would stop the orange buffoon?

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:50:46am

re: #59 Dr. Matt

No.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:51:43am

re: #48 wrenchwench

You see 80 as old. I used to, but Mr. w turns 80 next Feb. He’s still kicking ass and taking names.

I know WW but it’s the Presidency. Don’t get me wrong. I admire Pelosi but I just don’t know if that’s the right pick. I’d honestly rather go with someone younger like her fellow Californian Harris. Plus I really like her in the House.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:52:04am

re: #59 Dr. Matt

Do you think that would stop the orange buffoon?

I guess give him time?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:52:05am

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

DT will try. He does not understand that he is not an absolute ruler.

Why should he understand? The Republican party isn’t doing anything to constrain him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:54:33am

Is there any possibility of Lisa switching parties? After all, she won in 2010 as a write-in.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:54:46am

re: #58 PhillyPretzel

DT will try. He does not understand that he is not an absolute ruler.

I think the reason why he acts so servile and respectful to tyrants is because he admires that about them. He sees people like Macron, Trudeau, and Markel as wusses because of their limited power. He wants to be like Kim, Putin, and Erodgan.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:55:50am

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any possibility of Lisa switching parties? After all, she won in 2010 as a write-in.

I very much doubt it. She’s a Republican through and through. But you never know. Lieberman went from almost being elected VP to being the guy who really handicapped Obama on the public option.

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Interesting Times  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:58:09am

Sanity break:

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:58:29am

re: #49 KGxvi

Here’s the thing, I don’t necessarily disagree with Hatch on this. There is an issue of preemption and whether allowing a state government to go after someone after a federal pardon (or even arguably, the other way around), fits with the goals of the constitution.

Yes, Trump would be likely to abuse the power, because he’s Trump. But that’s why we (at least in theory) have the check of impeachment and removal for when a president so blatantly abuses his power.

Ultimately, this goes to the legal issue where we recognize not only the federal government as sovereign but also the states. Though our history, we have curtailed the sovereignty of the states more and more, and this is likely just another step in that direction.

One problem is that State and Federal offenses aren’t necessarily similarly worded but as we saw with Ford’s pardon of Nixon pardons can be worded is such an incredibly broad fashion as to literally cover all conceivable offenses. So it’s insane to remove the one effectively check on that power that States have. It’s also not hard to imagine someone like Trump using this power to sanction and immunize violations of State and local election laws, and even if he didn’t the fact that he could is simply destroys any pretense of States’ Rights over their own internal dealings.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:58:59am

I see nothing about Trump that suggests he understands our documents and governing principles as a representative Republic. Of course, he knows things like the Declaration, Constitution, or Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address and what they are but I doubt he knows what they really mean. If you asked Trump to explain an important SCOTUS case, he couldn’t do it. He wouldn’t be able to explain to you why the concept of separation of powers is so vital to our system of government. And I guess that’s actually to his advantage with his supporters because they don’t either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:59:29am

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any possibility of Lisa switching parties? After all, she won in 2010 as a write-in.

No.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:00:16pm

TBH I doubt Trump would actually pardon Cosby but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go on a tweet storm or weird stream of conscience rant about how “unfair” the system’s been to Cosby and how “very sad” it is for him without a word about Cos’s victims.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:01:14pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

I know WW but it’s the Presidency. Don’t get me wrong. I admire Pelosi but I just don’t know if that’s the right pick. I’d honestly rather go with someone younger like her fellow Californian Harris. Plus I really like her in the House.

You’re right, and I was not seriously offering her as the best choice. Anybody could be good, there’s a lot we don’t yet know. Kamala could be good. Could be the woman who will win a seat in the House in my district.

Xochitl Torres Small

Could be Beto. I’ve thought of him as a possibility for the future since *checks Pages* 2009.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:02:52pm

re: #72 wrenchwench

You’re right, and I was not seriously offering her as the best choice. Anybody could be good, there’s a lot we don’t yet know. Kamala could be good. Could be the woman who will win a seat in the House in my district.

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Could be Beto. I’ve thought of him as a possibility for the future since *checks Pages* 2009.

I think Beto would look insincere if he ran considering he criticized Cruz for running not long after his own election. You’re right though. A lot we don’t know yet. How do you pronounce her first name btw? Xochitl Torres Small that is?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:02:54pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

I see nothing about Trump that suggests he understands our documents and governing principles as a representative Republic. Of course, he knows things like the Declaration, Constitution, or Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address and what they are but I doubt he knows what they really mean. If you asked Trump to explain an important SCOTUS case, he couldn’t do it. He wouldn’t be able to explain to you why the concept of separation of powers is so vital to our system of government. And I guess that’s actually to his advantage with his supporters because they don’t either.

He’s heard of them but I doubt he ever read any or is familiar with a single provision of any of these documents.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:03:37pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:04:20pm

re: #39 jaunte

The ACLU also argues, under double jeopardy, that this should also be declared unconstitutional.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:04:34pm
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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:04:37pm

re: #75 jaunte

That is perfect.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:05:52pm

re: #74 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s heard of them but I doubt he ever read any or is familiar with a single provision of any of these documents.

That’s exactly what I said. He knows what they are but as we saw when he rambled about how his own speeches will be compared to the Gettysburg Address. He didn’t demonstrate that he knew which he very likely doesn’t that the speech was about the real principles that the Civil War was being fought for and the division that wreck the nation and the government by the people and for the people shall never perish from the Earth. He just knows the cartoon version where Abe says “Four score and seven years ago” in a baritone voice sounding nothing how Abe actually did. The man’s not a scholar at all. Even Bush looks scholarly next to him. Bush was by no means an intellectual heavy weight but he was intrigued by history at least.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:06:32pm

re: #76 Belafon

It is a problem. And an opportunity for the people who are actively seeking to cement permanent power.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:07:11pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

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All that crap about how “they were laughing at us” during Obama’s presidency and then actually gets laughed at to his face. Imagine what they say behind your back, Donnie and you know it’s all true too.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:07:21pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

I think Beto would look insincere if he ran considering he criticized Cruz for running not long after his own election. You’re right though. A lot we don’t know yet. How do you pronounce her first name btw? Xochitl Torres Small that is?

The one time I saw her when she visited my town, she introduced herself as ‘Zosh’ with a long ‘o’, and that’s all I’ve heard people call her. If I have another opportunity, I will ask her to say it.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:08:58pm

You could also argue, though, that if the president attempts, like Ford, to pardon for things that the person hasn’t been convicted of, that they are still open for state prosecution.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:09:12pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

The one time I saw her when she visited my town, she introduced herself as ‘Zosh’ with a long ‘o’, and that’s all I’ve heard people call her. If I have another opportunity, I will ask her to say it.

The two I’ve met say it like “Soshi”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:09:47pm

re: #82 wrenchwench

The one time I saw her when she visited my town, she introduced herself as ‘Zosh’ with a long ‘o’, and that’s all I’ve heard people call her. If I have another opportunity, I will ask her to say it.

Cool, cool. I’ve met our future Congresswoman thrice. Once at a function my boss invited me to, another at a shared function that her and Kaine spoke at- BBQ and beer yay!, and then as I was leaving campaign HQ two weeks ago after canvassing. I had met her before getting signatures for Perriello two winters back. She supported now Governor Northam but was happy to sign for Tom. She’s a nice person and appears to be about listening to all her constituents unlike Comstock.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:10:56pm

re: #76 Belafon

The ACLU also argues, under double jeopardy, that this should also be declared unconstitutional.

It’s a dumb argument imho. There would have been no justice at all in the Rodney King beating case if the Feds hadn’t come in and charged the officers separately with violating his civil rights. Also, as we saw with Ford / Nixon pardons can be issued preemptively, before any actual jeopardy has been experienced.

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:11:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:15:13pm

re: #87 gocart mozart

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I missed when Democrats were sending Republicans to camps and separating them from their families. I’ve come to a conclusion. Republicans can’t stand if when they’re actually held accountable for the shitty things they believe. And FFS When your party’s President is praised by David Duke, fucking stop it with the “We’re like Holocaust victims” crap.

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KerFuFFler  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:17:45pm

Brett Kavanaugh just can’t be bothered to fashion a lie that stands up to scrutiny. He claimed on his Fox News interview that 18 year old seniors (including himself) drank legally at high school parties he attended.
The problem is that the drinking age in MD increased to 21 when Kavanaugh was 17. He was too young when the new law passed to be grandfathered in for legal drinking during his senior year. Seniors from previous years who were already 18 could have drunk legally, but not Kavanaugh!

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:18:39pm

re: #32 KGxvi

An alliance built over 242 years. And all it takes is one stupid little man to ruin it.

i am hoping most of the world see the US as sick right now. like with an infection.
that we will pull out of, get over / get better…..

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:19:15pm

re: #29 Charles Johnson

Not to mention Britain and the United States, Canada and the United States, Mexico and the United States, Germany and the United States, Japan and the Unites States..hell, this could go on for awhile.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:19:21pm

Man, I know i may be getting a bit bloodthirsty when I’m pissed an 81 year-old man is only getting 3-10 years in prison for rape…for this case, there are 60 other women that have come forward and accused him of sexual assault, up to and including rape.

I know all of the practicalities of the legal system, statute of imitations, etc. I don’t much care. I want blood.

This thing with Kavanaugh is not making me feel hopeless. It’s turning me into a Valkyrie.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:20:06pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

All that crap about how “they were laughing at us” during Obama’s presidency and then actually gets laughed at to his face. Imagine what they say behind your back, Donnie and you know it’s all true too.

The laughing at us is OK now because all the other countries suck.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:20:39pm

re: #89 KerFuFFler

Brett Kavanaugh just can’t be bothered to fashion a lie that stands up to scrutiny. He claimed on his Fox News interview that 18 year old seniors (including himself) drank legally at high school parties he attended.
The problem is that the drinking age in MD increased to 21 when Kavanaugh was 17. He was too young when the new law passed to be grandfathered in for legal drinking during his senior year. Seniors from previous years who were already 18 could have drunk legally, but not Kavanaugh!

Another lie. What a shocker.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:22:25pm

re: #89 KerFuFFler

Brett Kavanaugh just can’t be bothered to fashion a lie that stands up to scrutiny. He claimed on his Fox News interview that 18 year old seniors (including himself) drank legally at high school parties he attended.
The problem is that the drinking age in MD increased to 21 when Kavanaugh was 17. He was too young when the new law passed to be grandfathered in for legal drinking during his senior year. Seniors from previous years who were already 18 could have drunk legally, but not Kavanaugh!

This is a ridiculous unnecessary lie. After all, teenagers have been evading this law for decades. He could have just said that he was a normal teenager and apologized for ignoring the rules. The fact that he felt compelled to lie about something so unimportant shows his total disregard for the truth. No wonder Trump loves him

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:22:37pm

re: #92 BlueGrl21

Man, I know i may be getting a bit bloodthirsty when I’m pissed an 81 year-old man is only getting 3-10 years in prison for rape…for this case, there are 60 other women that have come forward and accused him of sexual assault, up to and including rape.

I know all of the practicalities of the legal system, statute of imitations, etc. I don’t much care. I want blood.

This thing with Kavanaugh is not making me feel hopeless. It’s turning me into a Valkyrie.

Yeah it does seem way too light. I don’t believe in taking in to account a defendant’s age when it’s a crime like rape or murder. Violent crime is violent crime. And as you get at, Cosby had many many accusers. I hope the Kavanaugh thing ends with him having to resign his seat in shame but then I’m afraid we’d get stuck with him going the victim route on FNC but at least he wouldn’t be in power to rule on law.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:22:37pm

re: #92 BlueGrl21

At Cosbys age, 3-10 years may effectively be a life sentence.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:23:35pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

It might just be.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:23:51pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

This is a ridiculous unnecessary lie. After all, teenagers have been evading this law for decades. He could have just said that he was a normal teenager and apologized for ignoring the rules. The fact that he felt compelled to lie about something so unimportant shows his total disregard for the truth. No wonder Trump loves him

He has such a difficult relationship with the truth. I honestly figured it was 18 when he was 17 and that in part explained why he was going away from Bethesda for parties because you know, the people at the stores in your home area may recognize you but 10 iles away probably not.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:24:32pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

At Cosbys age, 3-10 years may effectively be a life sentence.

It might well be but in this case I really think the punishment should fit the crime. Something like bad checks? Yeah go easy on the old bastard but this?

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:25:07pm

I made a giant mistake today.

I often check in on the right-wing websites, just to see what they’re screeching about, and I figured it’d be interesting to go there to see What Fresh Hell would be coming out of the mouths of the goons on Fox. Predictable DARVO shit; the mean old Dems are the abusers, poor little Kavanaugh is the REAL victim in all this, yada yada…

And then I went to 8chan, and it turns out that the sickos there are writing porno slashfic about Kavanaugh and pals gang-raping girls.

Sick rape fantasies from the online trolls

There is so much more but I had to shut everything down and walk away.

These people are sick.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:25:48pm

I just refuse to see why Kavanaugh is credible. His accusers haven’t denied that they drank. But Kav’s gone all out to paint himself as this altar boy type who was only into God, Sports, and School and I’m sorry but that’s such bs by the evidence we have.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:26:34pm

re: #101 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I made a giant mistake today.

I often check in on the right-wing websites, just to see what they’re screeching about, and I figured it’d be interesting to go there to see What Fresh Hell would be coming out of the mouths of the goons on Fox. Predictable DARVO shit; the mean old Dems are the abusers, poor little Kavanaugh is the REAL victim in all this, yada yada…

And then I went to 8chan, and it turns out that the sickos there are writing porno slashfic about Kavanaugh and pals gang-raping girls.

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I really hate humanity sometimes. WTF.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:27:49pm

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

At Cosbys age, 3-10 years may effectively be a life sentence.

Just because it took so long to get a conviction can’t serve as a reason he should be spared any of the consequences.

When people say things re: Kavenaw, about ‘ruining his life for a long-ago indiscretion’, I say, ’ He ruined his own life with that. AND hers.’

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:28:56pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Just because it took so long to get a conviction can’t serve as a reason he should be spared any of the consequences.

When people say things about ‘ruining his life for a long-ago indiscretion’, I say, ’ He ruined his own life with that. AND hers.’

I looked it another way. He lived his life as “America’s Dad” for many years while his victims lived knowing that they had been abused by this guy who was painted not just as a model father but a model citizen too.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:29:27pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:30:37pm

re: #106 jaunte

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Wasn’t he convicted in Suburban Philly? Yeah no buddy. That’s not how this works.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:32:03pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

I looked it another way. He lived his life as “America’s Dad” for many years while his victims lived knowing that they had been abused by this guy who was painted not just as a model father but a model citizen too.

Ooops, edited to add ‘re: Kavenaw’ for that last part.

[That’s how I spell it. I think I’ll call him ‘Brent’ now.]

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:32:13pm

The same applies for Kavanaugh btw. He got all these praises as an excellent judge and public servant all the while women like Ford lived with the knowledge of what he did to them and how it impacted her life.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:32:39pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Ooops, edited to add ‘re: Kavenaw’ for that last part.

[That’s how I spell it. I think I’ll call him ‘Brent’ now.]

Brentbart O’Kavanaugh at your service.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:33:14pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

Norristown is in Montgomery County. You could call that the suburbs. It is the next county over from Philly.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:33:38pm

I can’t be the only one who thinks “White House Correspondents’ Dinner” and worries about how twisted Trump can get when he gets laughed at.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:33:44pm

re: #106 jaunte

Thank you, Mr. Wyatt. Democratic candidates all over the country appreciate this effort on behalf of your client.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:34:24pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Just because it took so long to get a conviction can’t serve as a reason he should be spared any of the consequences.

When people say things re: Kavenaw, about ‘ruining his life for a long-ago indiscretion’, I say, ’ He ruined his own life with that. AND hers.’

once again - running faster than the law— getting away with it is neither exoneration nor a gift or an opportunity to turn your life around or whatever

it is evading capture and prosecution

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:34:59pm

I always think about a similiar metric when I see the old Nazi criminals. The attempts “Hey he’s an old man, leave him alone.” And I just think about the men, women, and children who never lived to grow old, have kids/grandkids, or to quote W.B. Yeats “comb gray hair.” He had his life. There are some things that I think can be forgiven but some things justice needs to be eternal. And hell I still want to know who murdered my second great grandfather and why. Don’t want them on trial mind you lol.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:35:22pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thank you, Mr. Wyatt. Democratic candidates all over the country appreciate this effort on behalf of your client.

Sex War? Great, now Trump is going to demand a new Veterans Day.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:35:23pm

re: #111 PhillyPretzel

Norristown is in Montgomery County. You could call that the suburbs. It is the next county over from Philly.

I thought so. Certainly not “Washington.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:35:55pm

re: #114 dangerman

once again - running faster than the law— getting away with is neither exoneration nor a gift or an opportunity to turn your life around or whatever

it is evading capture and prosecution

See my below about the Axis criminals. We’ve been on great wavelength about this whole thing DM.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:36:19pm

Sex War, as performed by Spinal Tap.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:37:47pm

re: #106 jaunte

I hope this ‘sex war’ involves some Shakira Law.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:38:00pm

In the past week Trump has gained 4 points in the polls, moving from -13 to -9. Republican voters must really like rape, too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:38:30pm

re: #116 Barefoot Grin

Sex War? Great, now Trump is going to demand a new Veterans Day.

He can create a new campaign award, the Purple Mushroom.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:39:33pm

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

In the past week Trump has gained 4 points in the polls, moving from -13 to -9. Republican voters must really like rape, too.

And at the same time, they talk about bringing out guns on any young man who even says a nice thing towards their daughter. It’s such a weird dynamic but I guess not really since i seems to come back to viewing women and girls as property not people with agency and choice.

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DesertDenizen  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:39:49pm

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

They like seeing women “put in their place”. Evil people, all.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:44:35pm

re: #119 jaunte

Sex War, as performed by Spinal Tap.

You fight Sex Wars with Sex Pistols?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:45:11pm
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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:46:25pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

See my below about the Axis criminals. We’ve been on great wavelength about this whole thing DM.

i do tax work, among other things
for more than 35 years

you’re either mostly honest and *try* and comply
or you’re not and you try to get away with stuff
there is really no third way

i use the same analogy all the time and ive explained more times than i can count that speeding is illegal
not getting pulled over doesnt make it right, ok, or you ‘innocent’
it makes you lucky
‘victimless’. maybe. maybe not. besides the point.

getting caught (audited) then expecting to explain why the rules shouldnt/dont apply to you is a losing planning strategy

that’s where my position comes from and it’s not much different wrt the supreme court - its MORE SO

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:47:40pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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Wingnuts will be confused about this one but holy fuck.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:47:54pm

re: #121 Single-handed sailor

In the past week Trump has gained 4 points in the polls, moving from -13 to -9. Republican voters must really like rape, too.

Their view is that white men must be exempt from any repercussions for bad behavior as teenagers or during college. And any girl who was intoxicated deserved it anyway. Boasting of conquests is fine when you are a man.

Remember — a vast majority of white voters in Alabama were totally on board with Roy Moore; and it was white voters (especially men) who voted for and still support Trump. If we don’t get a huge turnout among the young and minority population in November, it’s the end of the run for America.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:48:24pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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at least in that portion, he doesnt say cosby didnt do it

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 12:59:41pm

Mindfulness, now a controversial practice for right-wingers.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:01:52pm

re: #131 jaunte

Mindfulness, now a controversial practice for right-wingers.

If people stop and think, no one votes for Republicans.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:02:02pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:04:01pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

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“When the law and facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell.”

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:04:52pm

re: #133 Dave In Austin

Thank you for such a lovely diversion. They were so cute.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:05:09pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:06:13pm

re: #135 PhillyPretzel

Thank you for such a lovely diversion. They were so cute.

We’ve got 2. They are all that and more.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:06:22pm
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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:08:40pm

re: #135 PhillyPretzel

Thank you for such a lovely diversion. They were so cute.

the eyes on that one licking the straw!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:08:55pm

Did President Trump Save Two Cats After Hurricane Harvey?

Btw, snopes.com is practically inaccessible on my isp (Suddenlink), apparently because of throttling. LGF is likewise very slow and sometimes times out. Fox News loads instantly. I will be making a change as soon as I can find a good alternative.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:09:17pm

“I meant to do that”

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:10:52pm

The thing I think about with the Cosby trial is that the state reneged on a promise to keep testimony sealed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:10:55pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

“I meant to do that”

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I was saying Boo-urns.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:11:42pm

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Uh, quite the statement from Andrew Wyatt, Bill Cosby’s publicist, from outside the courthouse.

“I believe and think it is important to point out that this has been the most racist and sexist trial in the history of the United States.”

A portion… pic.twitter.com

— Sopan Deb

A witch-hunt, even. A total hoax. 13 angry anti-Cosby people. Corrupt prosecutor.

/

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:12:25pm

re: #140 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Did President Trump Save Two Cats After Hurricane Harvey?

Btw, snopes.com is practically inaccessible on my isp (Suddenlink), apparently because of throttling. LGF is likewise very slow and sometimes times out. Fox News loads instantly. I will be making a change as soon as I can find a good alternative.

an unfortunate side effect of technology is that i cannot automatically believe a photo anymore

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:13:25pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

“I meant to do that”

The president says he didn’t get laughed at, he successfully told a joke

ok
explain it
whyzit funny?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:14:09pm

re: #145 dangerman

an unfortunate side effect of technology is that i cannot automatically believe a photo anymore

You could never believe a photo because they’ve been manipulated in darkrooms from the start. Now video is just as easily manipulated.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:15:03pm

Timed out, full blank, reloaded with new tab. This happens every 5 to 10 minutes even without entering text. Of I try to enter something, it is 50/50 whether the screen will go blank and lose my text before I can post it.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:16:55pm

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Is there bad weather in your area? That use to happen to me when I had another service.

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:18:13pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

“Oh it was great. Well that was meant to get some laughter, but it was great.”

He’s seething right now.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:18:35pm

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Timed out, full blank, reloaded with new tab. This happens every 5 to 10 minutes even without entering text. Of I try to enter something, it is 50/50 whether the screen will go blank and lose my text before I can post it.

That means you’re being thwarted by the deep state like the lady with a stuck backspace key.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:18:48pm

re: #149 PhillyPretzel

Is there bad weather in your area? That use to happen to me when I had another service.

No, I’m pretty sure it’s throttling. Fox News’s enormously large main page loads in 2-3 seconds and keeps up with their multiple animations and ad barrages.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:20:16pm

re: #151 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That means you’re being thwarted by the deep state like the lady with a stuck backspace key.

If the backspacing had suddenly stopped when she went to a pro-deep state site, she might have had something.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:21:01pm

re: #147 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You could never believe a photo because they’ve been manipulated in darkrooms from the start. Now video is just as easily manipulated.

yes and no - cause it depends on context

the manipulation that was necessary ‘back then’ required a certain degree of smarts, experience, equipment, desire, etc
so in some situations, yeah, extra scrutiny might be required.
trials, bigfoot, loch ness, and other wild or legal claims

and yet i could look at a run of the mill print of a family at the beach and be pretty sure they took the picture and didnt swap heads.

or that it was really you on the ride at disney

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:24:38pm
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Cheechako  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:26:49pm

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any possibility of Lisa switching parties? After all, she won in 2010 as a write-in.

I don’t think she will switch parties. But, she could be beaten if there’s not a 3 way race in the election. She ran as a write-in because Tea Party candidate Joe miller beat her in the primary. She lost the primary because she was very complacent and thought the Republican nomination was hers because of her birthright. (Remember her Daddy was both Governor and Senator.) The result was a 3 way race with her being a write-in candidate, Joe Miller the Republican nominee, and the little known Democrat Mayor of Sitka. It was the Native groups who got out the vote for her to win. Right now, the Native groups have strongly told her that Kavanough is a no go. She will need the Natives to run again in 2022. And the Natives have long memories.

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danarchy  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:28:24pm

re: #152 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

No, I’m pretty sure it’s throttling. Fox News’s enormously large main page loads in 2-3 seconds and keeps up with their multiple animations and ad barrages.

More likely it is just shitty routes. Snopes is hosted on AWS and a traceroute for me takes 23 hops to get there. Fox news is hosted at akamai and a traceroute only took 8 hops. You are on a different network, different backbone you’ll get different results, but I doubt snopes has enough traffic for anyone to bother throttling them.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:30:27pm

Kavanaugh’s defenders keep wanting to argue this as though it were a criminal case, that he deserves “the benefit of the doubt.” Well, small lies like this are how you kill any doubt in a courtroom:

While not proof of guilt, it is enough for a prosecutor to argue that the accused cannot be taken at his word.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:30:37pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

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i had one of those

in the early 90’s a retired (for the first time) and spent a year riding around the country on my harley. i clipped it to a lanyard around my neck and snapped away - selfies too

at the end of the day, i’d find a one hour photo wherever i was staying

i still have all of them in albums
not a doctored one or switched head in the bunch ;-)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:32:48pm

re: #159 dangerman

i had one of those

in the early 90’s a retired (for the first time) and spent a year riding around the country on my harley. i clipped it to a lanyard around my neck and snapped away - selfies too

at the end of the day, i’d find a one hour photo wherever i was staying

i still have all of them in albums
not a doctored one or switched head in the bunch ;-)

That you know of.
Photo Manipulation Throughout History: A Timeline

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CarolJ  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:32:54pm

Born six months before my late mother. Mom emphasized the importance of voting and never missed a vote in her life. She was also a strong supporter of unions as well.
She could tell me how having unions made it possible for a black woman to get a decent salary and benefits. Voting made both Civil Rights and Unons legal and possible.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:34:22pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:34:53pm

GOP Senate Candidate Who Said ‘Women Are Here To Cook My Dinner’ Loses In Missouri

GOP Senate candidate Courtland Sykes, the man who claims women should be “traditional homemakers,” loses in Missouri.

Sykes lost his bid for the party nomination to Missouri’s Republican Attorney General Josh Hawley. Republican Hawley will now face Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill in a race that may decide which party will control the U.S. Senate.

Sykes made headlines earlier this year after remarks he made concerning women went viral. Sykes, a fervent Trump supporter who billed himself as “MAGA’s Boldest All-Republican Warrior,” articulated his ultra-conservative position on women’s rights in a statement posted to Facebook, a statement which Sykes has since deleted.

In the statement, Sykes said:

I want to come home to a home cooked dinner every night at six. One that she (his fiance) fixes and one that I expect one day to have daughters learn to fix after they become traditional homemakers and family wives.

The GOP senate candidate said he didn’t want daughters to grow up as:

career obsessed banshees who forgo home life and children and the happiness of family to become nail-biting manophobic hell-bent feminist she devils..

Note that this ultra-traditionalist alpha-wannabe is living with his fiance without benefit of matrimony. Self awareness is not the alpha-goober contingent’s strong suit.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:40:46pm
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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:42:31pm

re: #160 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That you know of.
Photo Manipulation Throughout History: A Timeline

well unless some guy at a fotomat kiosk managed to play around inside that one-hour, i think ive had physical control over my photos all these years

of course that may not actually be true
i could be having memory lapses and gaps.
i did drink pretty good in my younger days
at least i think i did. i dont remember too well
unless lack of memories is a planted memory
of course the lack of memories could just mean i was a bore back then

;-)

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:44:21pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

alpha-goober contingent

Runner-up phrase of the day. Second only to:

performative moral certainty

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:44:28pm

re: #164 Single-handed sailor

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She chose to put herself in that position by being a fake.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:45:13pm

re: #163 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

GOP Senate Candidate Who Said ‘Women Are Here To Cook My Dinner’ Loses In Missouri

The GOP senate candidate said he didn’t want daughters to grow up as:

Note that this ultra-traditionalist alpha-wannabe is living with his fiance without benefit of matrimony. Self awareness is not the alpha-goober contingent’s strong suit.

This guy really deserves a shit sandwich.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:45:57pm

re: #136 lawhawk

It seems like a light sentence considering the crimes involved, but bear in mind, it was just relating to one woman whose claims were not only substantiated, but were believed beyond a reasonable doubt.

She’s the only one who was within the statute of limitations.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:46:04pm

re: #162 Charles Johnson

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That’s not how it works Jack. Pos though works for you though.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:47:10pm

vegan chili and popovers for dinner

the popovers recipe is adapted from BLT Steak / Williams Sonoma

you know when you have a winner?
when you’re not afraid to show everyone know how you do it

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:48:34pm

re: #169 sagehen

She’s the only one who was within the statute of limitations.

justice is messy

still manages to get the job done
a lot

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:51:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:52:55pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

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So true.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:53:49pm

re: #173 goddamnedfrank

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stoneman douglas/ parkland seemed like a turning point
(we’ll see in november)

maybe this moronic nomination is too

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:55:12pm

re: #175 dangerman

stoneman douglas/ parkland seemed like a turning point
(we’ll see in november)

maybe this moronic nomination is too

Let’s hope so. But let’s hope amnesia doesn’t set in either & we fall again for right wing cons.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:55:36pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:56:58pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Let’s hope so. But let’s hope amnesia doesn’t set in either & we fall again for right wing cons.

You can fool 27% of the people all the time.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:58:26pm

re: #177 jaunte

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He’s such a moron.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:59:03pm

Why would a statement like be meant to get laughter unless you were a big fat puppet?

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 1:59:29pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

“Just for a laugh, I’m going to claim my administration’s accomplished more than any other administration in history.”

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:02:46pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:02:51pm

Senate GOP continuing to hide behind women:

The GOP has hired a female sex-crimes prosecutor to question Dr. Christine Blasey Ford who accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault while the two were in high school.

However, Senate Republicans are refusing to release her name. “We aren’t announcing the name for her safety,” Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) said.

Thursday is gonna be an absolute shitshow.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:02:54pm

re: #181 jaunte

“Just for a laugh, I’m going to claim my administration’s accomplished more than any other administration in history.”

And then go cry on Twitter that the media won’t acknowledge it. God he’s such a stupid ass.

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Nyet  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:03:26pm

Plz report.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:04:02pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

Senate GOP continuing to hide behind women:

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Thursday is gonna be an absolute shitshow.

Says the party who hasn’t shown any concern for Ford’s safety & continues to accuse her of smearing their puppet Kavanaugh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:05:26pm

re: #185 Nyet

Plz report.

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God antisemitic jackasses are some creepy fuckers.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:05:32pm

Trace route is pretty interesting. In Windows, just go to the command prompt, type in tracert and the url you want to trace. The second step on my network always times out. LGF actually has fewer steps (9) than Fox News (10) and just one more than Facebook (8).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:06:39pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

Senate GOP continuing to hide behind women:

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Thursday is gonna be an absolute shitshow.

Judge Jeanine.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:07:18pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

This isn’t going to go well for Republicans. It may push up the gap between Republicans and Democrats in the polls.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:12:10pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Let’s hope so. But let’s hope amnesia doesn’t set in either & we fall again for right wing cons.

i was actually referring to it maybe being the final straw in the general attitude toward sexual assault ‘victims’

but i’ll take a change in the greater political arc as well

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:12:48pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Why would a statement like be meant to get laughter unless you were a big fat puppet?

i said this morning ‘explain to us how this is funny….”

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:13:56pm

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

This isn’t going to go well for Republicans. It may push up the gap between Republicans and Democrats in the polls.

If I was Dr. Ford, I’d preface every answer with ‘As I’d say to the male members of the committee, had they shown enough courage to question me themselves…’

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:15:28pm

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

This isn’t going to go well for Republicans. It may push up the gap between Republicans and Democrats in the polls.

Whether you have geriatric white men asking the questions or a hired gun, the visual is still going to be the same: the accused being treated with kid gloves while the accuser is treated as a hostile witness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:15:54pm

re: #191 dangerman

i was actually referring to it maybe being the final straw in the general attitude toward sexual assault ‘victims’

but i’ll take a change in the greater political arc as well

True, true.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:16:27pm

re: #192 dangerman

i said this morning ‘explain to us how this is funny….”

I guess it is funny when you’re Putin’s waterboy trying to weaken American credibility on the global stage but I don’t think Trump knows he’s doing that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:20:38pm

I hope Ford’s ready for this. They are going to be disgusting to her. They are going to do everything to preserve the image of Kavanaugh as a good man being brought down by a political conspiracy. Doesn’t matter that she brought it up years ago, teh other allegations, etc. They want to paint this punk as a choir boy who should be ruling on our laws for the next 30 years. And I hope the Democrats push hard when he lies inevitably again.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:21:14pm

re: #144 Sir John Barron

Uh, quite the statement from Andrew Wyatt, Bill Cosby’s publicist, from outside the courthouse.

A witch-hunt, even. A total hoax. 13 angry anti-Cosby people. Corrupt prosecutor.

/

I would argue that the most racist ones were the trials that didn’t happen at all. You know, they just showed up after dark at your house, drug you out by your feet and hung you from the nearest tree or just beat you until dead.

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Cheechako  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:25:21pm

re: #193 makeitstop

If I was Dr. Ford, I’d preface every answer with ‘As I’d say to the male members of the committee, had they shown enough courage to question me themselves…’

I’d say “Which Senator gave you this question?” and then address my reply to the Senator.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:25:44pm

re: #147 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

You could never believe a photo because they’ve been manipulated in darkrooms from the start. Now video is just as easily manipulated.

You could never manipulate a film-based photo the way you can now with digital image editing like Photoshop.

There was always something in the image that gave away the manipulation. You either had hard edge “cut” lines, or some kind of brushed or drawn-in modifications that looked fake to a good discerning eye.

And to find someone real good to pull of a decent film/print fake photo would take a lot of money because they had to be that good.

I was never at that high a level, but I used to do photo retouching and was pretty good at it, but you could always tell if you knew what to look for.

Take the Kennedy autopsy images that have long been in contention. They are considered to be good fakes, maybe done by the CIA or some other government agency. You can tell the fake areas if you look closely. But they were good enough to create a heck of a conspiracy. And in some ways, they also created controversy because of their bad elements.

Today, it would be real hard to tell. And the Zapruder Film…that could be done anyway you want now.

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mmmirele  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:26:55pm

re: #183 Targetpractice

Senate GOP continuing to hide behind women:

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Thursday is gonna be an absolute shitshow.

Crud. We have a staff meeting during the hearing. Guess I’ll have the hearing in one ear and the staff meeting in the other.

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steve_davis  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:30:01pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

This is a ridiculous unnecessary lie. After all, teenagers have been evading this law for decades. He could have just said that he was a normal teenager and apologized for ignoring the rules. The fact that he felt compelled to lie about something so unimportant shows his total disregard for the truth. No wonder Trump loves him

the problem is that kavanaugh is at heart a fundamentalist, with a fundamentalist’s view of the world. And the problem for fundamentalists is that they’re really just unbelievably bad Scholastics. They not only believe that the world’s brickwork is unmoveable and unflexible: they build their walls such that no single piece can be removed without the whole thing coming down, and it doesn’t matter if the removed piece is from the top or the bottom. So, for example, if Kavanaugh admits that he was involved cavalierly in illegal activity, it means he suddenly is open to charges involving all sorts of additional cavalier illegality, like trying to gang rape a 15 year old and only failing at it because he was literally too fucking drunk to perform.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:42:29pm

re: #193 makeitstop

If I was Dr. Ford, I’d preface every answer with ‘As I’d say to the male members of the committee, had they shown enough courage to question me themselves…’

I hadn’t thought of that. I was more along the lines of she should ask after each question, “Which committee member asked that question?”.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:44:31pm

re: #199 Cheechako

I’d say “Which Senator gave you this question?” and then address my reply to the Senator.

GMTA, and I like the addressing the member directly.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:49:05pm

re: #84 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The two I’ve met say it like “Soshi”

I know I’m way late, but in Nahuatl, this should be pronounced “Sho-chee-tl”. The “tl” is an unvoiced alveolar lateral, meaning you put the tip of your tongue against your back teeth as for “t”, but you keep it there and the air escapes to the sides when released.


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