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dell*nix  Sep 26, 2018 • 10:03:38pm

Truly insane press conference. A bit reluctant to go to my FB to see some of the comments.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 10:09:59pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 10:11:27pm
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wheat-dogg  Sep 26, 2018 • 10:23:16pm

Been very busy these last several hours, either working or sleeping, and holy shit I watched the press conference, and WTF was all that about it?

Also, the UN speech. It was like watching one of my least prepared students trying to mumble his way through an oral presentation.

And now, back to work.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 10:41:20pm
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Teukka  Sep 26, 2018 • 10:58:44pm

Off Topic. Comic relief.

Facebook Video

Think of the environment. Thank you.

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Kragar  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:04:50pm

re: #6 Teukka

What We Do in the Shadows (2015) - Not Eating Stu Scene (4/10) | Movieclips

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:07:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:19:22pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:19:54pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:24:36pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:28:41pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:35:44pm

I learned as a young kid at San Francisco Zoo to stay out of the ape shit splatter zone. I used to stand on the edge and watch the noobs get covered in shit.

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Kragar  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:36:48pm
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Kragar  Sep 26, 2018 • 11:46:42pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:03:07am

From the Library of Congress link

The exuberant Pacifica Quartet joins forces with German composer and clarinetist Jörg Widmann for a program featuring Haydn’s Quartet in G major, op. 76, no. 1; Widmann’s String Quartet no. 3 (“Jagdquartett”); and Weber’s Clarinet Quintet in B-flat major, op. 34.

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Teukka  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:33:38am

Morning Lizardim edumacation:

Facebook Post

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:39:30am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:55:48am
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Teukka  Sep 27, 2018 • 1:05:09am

Morning music:

Iframe

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 1:26:07am

WTI crude now at $72.50, tariffs are a 10% tax on most goods, prime interest rates have climbed to 2.25% with another increase before the end of the year. So much winning.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 27, 2018 • 1:31:44am

i just have to come to terms with the fact that millions of people can’t tell how utterly moronic this sounds

“From what I hear, if you look at Mr. Pillsbury, the leading authority on China … he was saying that China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump’s very, very large brain. He said, Donald Trump, they don’t know what to do,” Trump said.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 1:41:38am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2018 • 2:38:18am

re: #22 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

i just have to come to terms with the fact that millions of people can’t tell how utterly moronic this sounds

“From what I hear, if you look at Mr. Pillsbury, the leading authority on China … he was saying that China has total respect for Donald Trump and for Donald Trump’s very, very large brain. He said, Donald Trump, they don’t know what to do,” Trump said.

Pillsbury is a “China expert,” with years of service in DC and elsewhere. He’s 73, and knows his way around. But not everyone is enamored of him. I found this critique of his scholarship cited in his Wikipedia entry.
web.archive.org

While Pillsbury has achieved prominence within the Defense Secretary’s office, many defense experts within the military, government agencies, and universities reject his scholarship as tendentious at best, and their professional distaste is heightened by personal dislike. “Brilliant” and “charming” are words frequently used by acquaintances to describe Pillsbury, but so are “combative,” “conspiratorial,” and “ruthless.” His career has been one of numerous short-lived jobs, at least three dismissals, and a revoked security clearance.

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On this spectrum of opinion, Pillsbury dwells on the far-hawkish end. Where others view China’s intentions as complicated, Pillsbury says that Beijing views the United States as an “inevitable foe.” (“He makes simple what is not simple,” says Mark Pratt, a former State Department official who has known Pillsbury for over 30 years.) Where others debate the merits of hedging, Pillsbury feels that things haven’t gone far enough. “The U.S. can do much more to hedge in the next few years if the Chinese do not end their excessive military secrecy and begin to reassure their neighbors,” he recently told The Wall Street Journal. And where nearly everyone agrees that China is far behind the United States in military capacity, Pillsbury has been among the first, and the few, to argue that Beijing is preparing for an asymmetric military conflict with the United States in which it would draw on secret “assassin’s mace” weapons. The term “assassin’s mace,” more commonly translated as “trump card” (shashoujian) is, according to Pillsbury, integral to a Chinese notion of “inferior defeats superior.” (The Pentagon’s most recent annual report to Congress on China’s military from May 2006 includes the term, mentioning Chinese efforts to exploit “perceived vulnerabilities of potential opponents—so-called Assassin’s Mace [sha shou jian] programs.”) An “assassin’s mace” might take the form of a computer application, for instance, that would take over an enemy information system, rendering a foe the victim of his own dependence on technology. In Pillsbury’s telling, China intends to leapfrog ahead in battle readiness by using assassin’s-mace weapons to find breaches in U.S. armor. Moreover, he implies, they could be ready at any time.

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But the true difference between most experts and Michael Pillsbury appears to lie somewhere else: namely, in the scholarship. With the exception of Chinese Views of Future Warfare, which is a straightforward compilation of translated essays, Pillsbury’s work over the past decade has become increasingly speculative and dubious. In particular, a close examination of his writings reveals a troubling approach to evidence and primary sources.

A case in point is Pillsbury’s paper “China’s Military Strategy Toward the U.S.: A View from Open Sources” from November of 2001. The piece names numerous Chinese military writings, including an article entitled “Twenty-first Century Naval Warfare” by Naval Captain Shen Zhongchang, Naval Lieutenant Commander Zhang Haiying, and Naval Lieutenant Zhou Xinsheng of the Chinese Navy Research Institute. According to Pillsbury, the article is written to show “how China could adopt several asymmetrical approaches to defeating a larger and more powerful navy,” and one of them “will be for China to attack American naval command and information systems.” (Underlined boldface Pillsbury’s.)

But Pillsbury’s footnotes lead to an essay that never discusses how China fits into future naval warfare, much less any sort of hypothetical attack on the United States. (The essay even appears in Pillsbury’s 1997 book, translated into English.)

The article also suggests that his career has been an example of “failing upward,” as he tended not to stay long at any one post, but still managing to find a nominally better job. Also, his translations from Mandarin is shaky at best. And he took some liberty in stating he was an heir to the Pillsbury flour fortune, when in fact he’s from another branch of the same family.

IOW, just the kind of person Trump would like, and who would like Trump back.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2018 • 2:50:36am

re: #24 wheat-dogg

And lo! There was a page created. And it was good.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 27, 2018 • 3:54:41am

BEES!!

Bee Simulator - Official Gamescon 2018 Trailer

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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2018 • 4:23:21am

Dnar Luap’s attempt to help Russia goes down in flames.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 4:28:46am

re: #19 Single-handed sailor

One of the House leaders, Henry Hyde, was revealed to have had an extramarital affair of his own. He called it a “youthful indiscretion” because he was, at the time, a mere 41 years old. (2/7)

What would really have put icing on the infidelity is ok for me cake is if that staffer had an abortion.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2018 • 4:50:59am

And Here we go……..

Click to Reveal
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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 4:52:39am

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WITH THIS SHIT? AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 4:57:14am

re: #30 MsJ

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME WITH THIS SHIT? AAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!

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The Dem incumbent Heidencamp really needs to call him out on this loudly.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 4:58:52am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

And Here we go……..

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She was 14-15 and not passed out drunk. Ford seems like she can actually carry her liquor unlike a certain judge.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:10:07am

re: #29 Dave In Austin

And Here we go……..

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“Guys, we’ve spent days on this and we haven’t been able to discredit her or her allegations. What do we do?”

“PORTRAY HER AS A DRUNK SLUT!”

“You’re right, why didn’t I think of that before?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:13:07am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:18:34am

Whatever happens today Kavanaugh is going to be another right wing Martyr in the vein of Thomas or Bork. And I’m sure he’ll be happy to play along. The Dem senators need to press him hard.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:25:00am

I pray for very bad things to happen to this family.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:28:56am

Does anyone if the person who is claiming to be the real rapist has a calendar from 1982? I think that would clear it up for me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:29:06am

re: #36 MsJ

I pray for very bad things to happen to this family.

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He’s such a disgusting asshole but then again he knows everything about how to treat women from his father. But I see he gave away the game on Julie Swetnick and I seriously wonder what he’s done to women that we don’t know about.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:30:09am

re: #37 I Would Prefer Not To

Does anyone if the person who is claiming to be the real rapist has a calendar from 1982? I think that would clear it up for me.

There it is, July 11, tried to rape a girl with Mark Judge wearing a Brett Kavanaugh mask! ///

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Mike Lamb  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:37:06am

So, the Double Doppelgänger Theory…they’re now just conceding that the assault occurred?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:39:37am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

So, the Double Doppelgänger Theory…they’re now just conceding that the assault occurred?

I think so but who knows. This whole thing makes me disgusted.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:40:15am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

So, the Double Doppelgänger Theory…they’re now just conceding that the assault occurred?

It’s amazing that course we’ve taken in a week’s time, isn’t it? From “It never happened” to “She is mistaken” to “It never happened because I was a virgin” to “Yes, I regularly got blitzed in high school but it never happened” to (now) “It happened but these two guys are responsible instead!”

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Mike Lamb  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:41:29am

Also, too, they are interviewing 2 guys whose basic position is “I was so drunk and rapey in high school that I think it might have been me who assaulted Dr. Ford.” That’s credible.

It’ll get really weird when we find the Kavanaugh look-a-like casting call on Craig’s List….

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Mike Lamb  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:42:43am

re: #40 Mike Lamb

So, the Double Doppelgänger Theory…they’re now just conceding that the assault occurred?

And unless one of these guys is Whelan’s dude, it’s actually the Triple Doppelgänger Theory.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:44:15am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

I think so but who knows. This whole thing makes me disgusted.

I was reliably informed that this is nothing but a transparent smear campaign against Kavanaugh, and it’s the Trump curious voters that are disgusted. Was I mistaken?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:45:32am

re: #45 Mike Lamb

I was reliably informed that this is nothing but a transparent smear campaign against Kavanaugh, and it’s the Trump curious voters that are disgusted. Was I mistaken?

Well they’re disgusted because sexual predators like Kavanaugh may actually be held accountable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:50:54am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:51:02am

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

WTI crude now at $72.50, tariffs are a 10% tax on most goods, prime interest rates have climbed to 2.25% with another increase before the end of the year. So much winning.

To be fair, oil was over $100 a gallon a decade ago, and the prime rate is still low by historical standards, especially considering how low the unemployment rate is. Now the tariffs are another story, hitting farmers and consumers in the pocketbook for no good reason.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:53:07am

re: #43 Mike Lamb

Also, too, they are interviewing 2 guys whose basic position is “I was so drunk and rapey in high school that I think it might have been me who assaulted Dr. Ford.” That’s credible.

It’ll get really weird when we find the Kavanaugh look-a-like casting call on Craig’s List….

I saw that in a Castle episode.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:54:11am
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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:56:22am

Have you noticed that the sleazeballs (Tucker Carlson, DJT Jr etc) have already coined a nickname for Avenatti (“Creepy Porn Lawyer”) — they only do that for feared political opponents (“Crooked Hillary”, “Lying Ted”, …) I wonder if this means they’ve already id’d Avenatti as their likeliest political opponent in 2020?

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:58:16am

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Good morning!

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:58:44am

What I’d really like to see is a criminal investigation being opened by the state of MD, and/or some civil lawsuits on top of it à la OJ. Let them put a guy on SCOTUS who’s the target of a criminal investigation.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:59:15am

Some signals that Susan Collins is concerned about the Swetnick allegations against Kavanaugh, but who knows if she is concerned enough to actually cast a “No” vote? We won’t know if Kavanaugh’s confirmation is in serious trouble unless they cancel either the committee vote tomorrow or the Senate confirmation vote next week. Until then, its just speculation.

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Targetpractice  Sep 27, 2018 • 5:59:31am

Dana “Moar Gunz!” on Faux, repeating the “ZOMG, my boys are in danger from lying slutz!!!” talking point, before screaming “Nobody wants to know about this!” about the sex life of a man who felt the sex life of another man was a national disgrace.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:00:59am

re: #51 Lupin

Have you noticed that the sleazeballs (Tucker Carlson, DJT Jr etc) have already coined a nickname for Avenatti (“Creepy Porn Lawyer”) — they only do that for feared political opponents (“Crooked Hillary”, “Lying Ted”, …) I wonder if this means they’ve already id’d Avenatti as their likeliest political opponent in 2020?

I would say that any rational analysis is that Avenatti is an extreme long shot to be the nominee. Of course, the same could’ve been said about Trump in 2015.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:01:36am

re: #55 Targetpractice

Dana “Moar Gunz!” on Faux, repeating the “ZOMG, my boys are in danger from lying slutz!!!” talking point, before screaming “Nobody wants to know about this!” about the sex life of a man who felt the sex life of another man was a national disgrace.

I thought she was supposed to be about gun rights. Oh wait. The NRA stopped being that years ago. If an anti gun judge had even the slightest appearance of impropriety, Dana would want him disbarred forever.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:02:33am

re: #53 Lupin

What I’d really like to see is a criminal investigation being opened by the state of MD, and/or some civil lawsuits on top of it à la OJ. Let them put a guy on SCOTUS who’s the target of a criminal investigation.

Montgomery County where this happened is doing exactly that I believe. They’re right across the river from DC.

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:03:28am

re: #56 Big Beautiful Door

I would say that any rational analysis is that Avenatti is an extreme long shot to be the nominee. Of course, the same could’ve been said about Trump in 2015.

Yeah, for sure, but they using that “mantra”even abbreviating it to CPL. Gets on my nerves.

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:05:20am

re: #58 HappyWarrior

Montgomery County where this happened is doing exactly that I believe. They’re right across the river from DC.

Interesting.

What will happen if a SCOTUS judge is the target of a criminal investigation. I assume he’ll post bail on one hand while swearing on the bible with the other?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:05:30am

They’re going after Avanetti as a porn star lawyer to discredit his client. Which I think is hilarious since they love the guy who actually had the affair with the porn star.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:05:48am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:05:54am

re: #60 Lupin

Interesting.

What will happen if a SCOTUS judge is the target of a criminal investigation. I assume he’ll post bail on one hand while swearing on the bible with the other?

I have no idea tbh.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:10:28am

re: #51 Lupin

Have you noticed that the sleazeballs (Tucker Carlson, DJT Jr etc) have already coined a nickname for Avenatti (“Creepy Porn Lawyer”) — they only do that for feared political opponents (“Crooked Hillary”, “Lying Ted”, …) I wonder if this means they’ve already id’d Avenatti as their likeliest political opponent in 2020?

Creepy Porn Lawyer who represents a client who slept with Trump while Trump’s wife was recovering after giving birth to one of Trump’s youngest child and who Trump paid $130,000 to supposedly keep quiet about not having sexual relations with him.

Yeah, about that. What does it say about Trump who cheats on his wives with adult film stars and admits on video that he grabs women by the genitals and gets away with it because he’s rich and powerful?

Oh yeah, the GOP elects that kind of sleaze to the WH.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:12:48am
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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:14:23am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

They’re going after Avanetti as a porn star lawyer to discredit his client. Which I think is hilarious since they love the guy who actually had the affair with the porn star.

There’s nothing wrong being a porn star lawyer. Every one is entitled to a lawyer. Hell, Giulani is a money lauderer’s lawyer.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:14:39am

So, here’s some entertainment for the law-talking guys.

Lawyer BAFFLED by INSANE Lawsuit from Sovereign Citizen Law School Applicant

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:15:28am

re: #61 HappyWarrior

They’re going after Avanetti as a porn star lawyer to discredit his client. Which I think is hilarious since they love the guy who actually had the affair with the porn star.

Its conservative ethics. Women who have sex outside of marriage are sluts and whores; men are manly studs, and after all, boys will be boys./

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:18:21am

re: #66 Lupin

There’s nothing wrong being a porn star lawyer. Every one is entitled to a lawyer. Hell, Giulani is a money lauderer’s lawyer.

I agree. And the thing is the stuff Avanetti alleged about Trump and Cohen was the truth.

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:19:56am

re: #67 Sufficient unto the day…

So, here’s some entertainment for the law-talking guys.

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I think this goes beyond an isolated fruitcake. I think you no longer have the legal (or Constitutional) tools to fight the nazi/crooks/nuts who are seizing power in your country, one bit at a time.

A criminal on SCOTUS (not n impossible scenario at this stage) reminds me of Pohl & Kornbluth’s sf novel THE SYNDIC in which the mobs rule the US.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:21:32am

re: #68 Big Beautiful Door

Its conservative ethics. Women who have sex outside of marriage are sluts and whores; men are manly studs, and after all, boys will be boys./

Plus, if porn start doesn’t carry a stigma, then how are the going to judge people? By their character and actions?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:24:21am

re: #68 Big Beautiful Door

Its conservative ethics. Women who have sex outside of marriage are sluts and whores; men are manly studs, and after all, boys will be boys./

I know. I feel like trying to bait the conservatives I know on FB by calling it out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:24:49am

re: #71 Belafon

Plus, if porn start doesn’t carry a stigma, then how are the going to judge people? By their character and actions?

No, what Republican Senators say about them.//

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:25:45am

I’ll bitch a little : Brussels just inaugurated a Jo Cox square today (in the news on TV here); a town near Dijon has a Jo Cox street in France; I think they’re talking about one in Holland. Who doesn’t have a Jo Cox anything? England! Shame!

(Jo Cox was the British female MP who campaigned against Brexit and was assassinated by a Nazi.)

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:30:56am

I was speaking with other teachers at school about this, and had a another teacher say how she didn’t believe Dr. Fords accusation, and that is was a false claim; he’s innocent.

Made me think; I teach at a Catholic School- our societies reaction/response to Sexual Assault is not much different than how we used to react to Catholic Priests and Cardinals and the scandals wherein.

For years, for decades- legitimate accusations have been downgraded and dismissed; to the point where they were treated as illegitimate. Those survivors became the victims, and a problem became baked into the system. This systemic problem didn’t just push down legitimate accusations, it equated them with false accusations. In a system such as this, it allows for accusations against the innocent to be treated with accusations of the guilty. If one truly believed that Kav were innocent, they need to critique the system, and want a vigorous investigation to separate legitimate from illegitimate accusations. There are some Catholic Priests that have been accused and moved by Cardinals that are probably innocent- but they are victims of the same system that ignored the legitimate accusers who were ignored.

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:32:52am

re: #75 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I was speaking with other teachers at school about this, and had a another teacher say how she didn’t believe Dr. Fords accusation, and that is was a false claim; he’s innocent.

Despite the polygraph and the risk of committing perjury which not negligible? I’d like to sell her swamp land in Florida. That’s a very gullible person.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:35:21am

re: #76 Lupin

Super conservative, slightly ignorant, always contrarian- everyone probably works with someone like that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:38:45am

re: #78 Big Beautiful Door

US Circuit Courts are already ignoring Supreme Court precedent against state regulations designed to shutdown abortion clinics in anticipation of Kavanaugh’s decisive fifth vote to gut Roe.

There’s something so wrong that he’s going to be the deciding vote on Roe. A man who has no respect at all for women making their own choices both legally and in his own life.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:38:55am

re: #76 Lupin

Despite the polygraph and the risk of committing perjury which not negligible? I’d like to sell her swamp land in Florida. That’s a very gullible person.

And the subsequent harassment that will likely go on for decades, death threats…

Yeah. I’m more willing to believe her BECAUSE of Kavanaugh’s position, not less.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:39:44am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

There’s something so wrong that he’s going to be the deciding vote on Roe. A man who has no respect at all for women making their own choices both legally and in his own life.

That is the part of the discussion that is being neglected right now. Instead it is turning into a he-said-she-said argument that is just going to chase its tail right down the rat hole.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:40:37am

“Anonymous” pens another op-ed for the New York Times this morning:

“Told ya”

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:42:06am

re: #78 Big Beautiful Door

US Circuit Courts are already ignoring Supreme Court precedent against state regulations designed to shutdown abortion clinics in anticipation of Kavanaugh’s decisive fifth vote to gut Roe.

Dare I say it? I think you’ve seen nothing yet. It’s going to get very, very ugly.

Remember: those are people who put children in cages. Do you think they’ll respect your civil rights.

As it is, if you’re black, I’m not sure how many you have left.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:42:38am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the part of the discussion that is being neglected right now. Instead it is turning into a he-said-she-said argument that is just going to chase its tail right down the rat hole.

But the sex harassment charges are the only way to stop Kavanaugh. Collins is absolutely determined to believe Kavanaugh will vote to protect Roe, and the other GOP Senators will vote for him because they know he will vote to gut Roe.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:44:55am

re: #83 Lupin

Dare I say it? I think you’ve seen nothing yet. It’s going to get very, very ugly.

Remember: those are people who put children in cages. Do you think they’ll respect your civil rights.

As it is, if you’re black, I’m not sure how many you have left.

What will have to happen is that we get enough Democrats in Congress and the White House to codify those into law.

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:46:26am

re: #85 Belafon

What will have to happen is that we get enough Democrats in Congress and the White House to codify those into law.

And add a few more laws that seem sorely needed, like, I don’t know, no Bill Cosbys on the supreme Court? No money launderers in the White House?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:49:43am

re: #84 Big Beautiful Door

But the sex harassment charges are the only way to stop Kavanaugh. Collins is absolutely determined to believe Kavanaugh will vote to protect Roe, and the other GOP Senators will vote for him because they know he will vote to gut Roe.

The GOP knows that they will lose votes either way; if they back down they will lose face and support among their base, if they vote for him they will lose voters from the non-base moderate voters.

I suspect that they will just damn the torpedoes, swallow the vomit rising in their throats and vote him in to get their conservative majority on the Court and take their chances with Congress, they can always recover any seats they might lose, but once Kavanaugh is on the Court, he is there for decades to come.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:50:03am

I don’t think I’ll be able to stomach the #KavanaughHearings hashtags due to the inevitable bots/sick little trumpchump trolls. Who would you all recommend as a good account to follow for live-tweeting the hearings? (like, the equivalent of what the unsinkable Daniel Dale does for Cheeto Benito rallies?)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:50:13am

re: #81 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is the part of the discussion that is being neglected right now. Instead it is turning into a he-said-she-said argument that is just going to chase its tail right down the rat hole.

I don’t think it’s fair to simplify it to that when Ford has definitely been impacted and hasn’t shown any signs of taking liberties with the truth like Kavanaugh. And I think that is the underlining argument that the Senate Dems have is that “This is a man who doesn’t even respect women’s choices and agency in his personal life, so why on earth should we let him decide on our Constitutional rights?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:50:50am

re: #88 Interesting Times

I don’t think I’ll be able to stomach the #KavanaughHearings hashtags due to the inevitable bots/sick little trumpchump trolls. Who would you all recommend as a good account to follow for live-tweeting the hearings? (like, the equivalent of what the unsinkable Daniel Dale does for Cheeto Benito rallies?)

Ditto that especially since I have a couple work projects today.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:51:39am

re: #86 Lupin

And add a few more laws that seem sorely needed, like, I don’t know, no Bill Cosbys on the supreme Court? No money launderers in the White House?

The hard part about that is how do you codify it. The point of the EC was to keep Trump’s out of office, but it’s what got him into it. I would pass a law requiring at least the last 14 years of your tax returns.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:51:40am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP knows that they will lose votes either way; if they back down they will lose face and support among their base, if they vote for him they will lose voters from the non-base moderate voters.

I suspect that they will just damn the torpedoes, swallow the vomit rising in their throats and vote him in to get their conservative majority on the Court and take their chances with Congress, they can always recover any seats they might lose, but once Kavanaugh is on the Court, he is there for decades to come.

I agree, which is why I believe the Democrats must add two seats to SCOTUS when they regain power, hopefullly in 2021.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:54:11am

re: #91 Belafon

The hard part about that is how do you codify it. The point of the EC was to keep Trump’s out of office, but it’s what got him into it. I would pass a law requiring at least the last 14 years of your tax returns.

We need to add a bunch of new seats to the House of Representatives, which will dilute the voting power of small rural states because big states will get a lot more new congressional districts, and thereby also a lot more electoral votes. I’d increase it to 1,000 seats.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:55:15am

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

I agree, which is why I believe the Democrats must add two seats to SCOTUS when they regain power, hopefullly in 2021.

I agree with that strongly in principle but what’s going to stop the GOP from adding two more if they inevitably get the Presidency back down the road. Don’t get me wrong. I like the idea and I’m more for it than against it since we haven’t adjusted SCOTUS or the size of Congress in years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:55:30am

re: #92 Big Beautiful Door

I agree, which is why I believe the Democrats must add two seats to SCOTUS when they regain power, hopefullly in 2021.

Two won’t be enough. Oh, I believe this out of control activist Republican court needs the House of Lords treatment that Asquith, Lloyd George and Churchill threatened—they extracted a promise from the King to pack the House of Lords with 500 Liberal peers to outvote the Tories.

Expand the court not just to 11. Expand it to 21 and pack it with women and then to make those five asshole conservatives even more miserable, include a couple gay, lesbian, Muslim, Hindus and others in the mix!

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:55:30am

Livestream here on CSPAN.

I don’t like the cat-swallowed-the-canary smile on Rachel Mitchell’s face. Creepy under the circumstances to say the least.

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Lupin  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:55:57am

To put us in the right mood for today’s hearings:

YouTube

I interviewed Vincent Price once… What a gentleman!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:56:47am

re: #93 Big Beautiful Door

We need to add a bunch of new seats to the House of Representatives, which will dilute the voting power of small rural states because big states will get a lot more new congressional districts, and thereby also a lot more electoral votes. I’d increase it to 1,000 seats.

Britain is much smaller than we are population wise yet there are 650 members of the House of Commons. I agree with this. And what’s more is I think it could allow other parties to grow.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:57:08am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I agree with that strongly in principle but what’s going to stop the GOP from adding two more if they inevitably get the Presidency back down the road. Don’t get me wrong. I like the idea and I’m more for it than against it since we haven’t adjusted SCOTUS or the size of Congress in years.

I like the idea of tying it to the number of judicial districts.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:57:51am

re: #99 Belafon

I like the idea of tying it to the number of judicial districts.

I do too rather than an arbitrary “Let’s increase the size of the court” which would come off as solely politically motivated.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:58:18am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I agree with that strongly in principle but what’s going to stop the GOP from adding two more if they inevitably get the Presidency back down the road. Don’t get me wrong. I like the idea and I’m more for it than against it since we haven’t adjusted SCOTUS or the size of Congress in years.

We also make it more difficult for the GOP to regain power as a strictly white nationalist party by granting statehood to D.C., P.R. and maybe the Pacific Islands, and also increase the size of the House to reduce the voting power of small states. All of which can be done without amending the Constitution, which is so difficult its almost impossible.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:58:46am

re: #96 Interesting Times

Livestream here on CSPAN.

I don’t like the cat-swallowed-the-canary smile on Rachel Mitchell’s face. Creepy under the circumstances to say the least.

After serving “justice” to people under Arpaio, that may be her new resting face.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2018 • 6:59:48am

re: #97 Lupin

To put us in the right mood for today’s hearings:

[Embedded content]

Video

I interviewed Vincent Price once… What a gentleman!

I got to see Mr. Price in person back in the late 60s when he was marketing his incredible Chocolate Chunk Cookies. They were only sold in Gimbels Department Stores. He was in the store cooking up a batch. He had us laughing as he was making a batch of his cookies. And when you got to taste them…utter decadance…Especially the ones where he added crushed Brazil, Cashews, Almonds and Walnuts…like eating a cookie version of a Chunky Bar!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 7:00:15am

re: #101 Big Beautiful Door

We also make it more difficult for the GOP to regain power as a strictly white nationalist party by granting statehood to D.C., P.R. and maybe the Pacific Islands, and also increase the size of the House to reduce the voting power of small states. All of which can be done without amending the Constitution, which is so difficult its almost impossible.

Yeah there’s only been on Amendment passed in my lifetime and it was something that started in the nation’s founding. That’s not necessarily a bad thing but I do agree with your idea.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 7:01:30am

re: #95 Joe Bacon 🌹

Two won’t be enough. Oh, I believe this out of control activist Republican court needs the House of Lords treatment that Asquith, Lloyd George and Churchill threatened—they extracted a promise from the King to pack the House of Lords with 500 Liberal peers to outvote the Tories.

Expand the court not just to 11. Expand it to 21 and pack it with women and then to make those five asshole conservatives even more miserable, include a couple gay, lesbian, Muslim, Hindus and others in the mix!

It will be difficult enough to just add two, which the entire mainstream media will oppose as illegitimate “court packing”, ignoring the illegitimate way the GOP stole Garland’s seat on the Supreme Court, not to mention the White House by accepting help from Russian Intelligence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 7:05:08am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

I do too rather than an arbitrary “Let’s increase the size of the court” which would come off as solely politically motivated.

Yep, the GOP disguises its true intent with rationalizations all the time, like demanding voter ID to prevent nonexistent voter fraud when they actually just want to disenfranchise voters.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 27, 2018 • 7:06:29am

re: #97 Lupin

Vincent Price later said, in retrospect, that was one of his favorite performances. I’d agree; it’s a brutal film (maybe not by today’s standards) and he didn’t ham it up - he came across as deadly serious.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 27, 2018 • 7:08:48am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

Vincent Price later said, in retrospect, that was one of his favorite performances. I’d agree; it’s a brutal film (maybe not by today’s standards) and he didn’t ham it up - he came across as deadly serious.

Loved his performance in Edward Scissorhands, which was maybe his last film, at least as best I recall.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2018 • 7:10:29am

Remember the headlines after the tax cut for corporations was passed, touting bonuses being given out? Ask a Trump supporter where on the graph (with dates removed) this would be.

Here is your hint: the last tick mark on the x axis is 2018

Original with dates at epi.org


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