Dr. Christine Blasey Ford Concludes Her Testimony; What Did You Think?

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Well, that was grueling for Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, and the Republican Party was predictably craven, and even some of the usual GOP apologists on Twitter are forced to acknowledge that it was an unmitigated disaster. The decision to have Rachel Mitchell, an associate of convicted felon Joe Arpaio, do the questioning for the cowardly Republican Senators ended up backfiring spectacularly.

The GOP tried mightily to stack this hearing against Dr. Ford, using every scheming trick they could think of, and she burned it all down. She’s a hero.

Lindsey Graham is ranting now.

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118 comments
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:31:43am

What I didn’t know until now that Graham was this horrible all along. Goddamn what a fucking awful person he is.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:32:36am

I think the GOP counted on being able to intimidate her and make her seem like a crackpot.

I think they failed badly.

In a normal situation, I think Kavanaugh’s nomination would be dead, but we’re not in a normal situation, and I think the GOP will keep pushing ahead.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:34:15am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

What I didn’t know until now that Graham was this horrible all along. Goddamn what a fucking awful person he is.

Sullivan opened my eyes to Graham being terrible a long time ago. I just wish I could find the post where he first called him Senator Butters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:34:19am

My reaction is not to the hearing itself, but to the reaction I’m seeing from GOPers, that they believe she’s telling the truth AS SHE SEES IT, but that without corroborating evidence, should it be enough to derail a SCOTUS nomination?

This is a crazy take. They believe her, in the sense that they don’t think she made it up, that she really did suffer this attack. They even believe that Kavanaugh did it. They’re grasping for reasons why it shouldn’t matter.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:34:21am

re: #2 Kragar

I think the GOP counted on being able to intimidate her and make her seem like a crackpot.

I think they failed badly.

In a normal situation, I think Kavanaugh’s nomination would be dead, but we’re not in a normal situation, and I think the GOP will keep pushing ahead.

The best we can hope for is there are two somewhat decent Republican senators left that have seen all this and have decided “I do not want this asshole’s name linked with me.” Hell even if they decide to do it for totally political preservation motives, I’d take it because I don’t want that fucking asshole Kavanaugh on our Supreme Court ruling on our laws for the next quarter century.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:34:53am

re: #3 KGxvi

Sullivan opened my eyes to Graham being terrible a long time ago. I just wish I could find the post where he first called him Senator Butters.

I wasn’t a fan mind you because I thought he was way too war hungry but I thought he was better than most of his fellow Republicans.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:35:12am

“We’ve got to shove this nomination through” isn’t a good look.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:35:21am

Ha, great idea:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:35:37am

re: #4 Blind Frog Belly White

My reaction is not to the hearing itself, but to the reaction I’m seeing from GOPers, that they believe she’s telling the truth AS SHE SEES IT, but that without corroborating evidence, should it be enough to derail a SCOTUS nomination?

This is a crazy take. They believe her, in the sense that they don’t think she made it up, that she really did suffer this attack. They even believe that Kavanaugh did it. They’re grasping for reasons why it shouldn’t matter.

If someone committed a sexual assault, they shouldn’t be on the Supreme Court. End of fucking story.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:35:37am

I think Rachel Mitchell did the Republicans no favors up there. I can’t believe her close was to effectively blame Ford for the five minutes at a time public hearing format that the GOP set up when Ford has been demanding an FBI investigation. Everything about Mitchell’s performance was just optically awful, and worse, inept.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:36:01am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:36:43am

I was right about one thing, Ford did draw blood. Normally this would be enough, but today nothing is normal. The only good news is that the Republicans own this. They are the pro-rape party.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:36:54am

Apparently even Fox News thinks this was a disaster for Kavanaugh.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:37:22am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

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She and Anita Hill both are. I’m sorry that our system failed Anita Hill 27 years ago. I hope/pray we do not do the same for Dr. Ford now.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:37:36am

I didn’t watch. Kept track of the comments here, and watched a few media-based Twitter accounts.

Dr. Ford handed the Judiciary Republicans their asses. When the screaming heads on Fox can’t stop talking about how bad it was, you gotta conclude that this nomination is in real trouble.

Andrea Mitchell says McConnell is bluffing, that he doesn’t have the votes for confirmation.

I’m wondering if Trump panics and pulls the nomination at this point. He knows how bad this is looking, and he’ll want to wash his hands of it in a hurry.

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:39:32am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

What I didn’t know until now that Graham was this horrible all along. Goddamn what a fucking awful person he is.

Yeah—he has always been full of shit—I think this little exchange says it well.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:39:43am

re: #15 makeitstop

I didn’t watch. Kept track of the comments here, and watched a few media-based Twitter accounts.

Dr. Ford handed the Judiciary Republicans their asses. When the screaming heads on Fox can’t stop talking about how bad it was, you gotta conclude that this nomination is in real trouble.

Andrea Mitchell says McConnell is bluffing, that he doesn’t have the votes for confirmation.

I’m wondering if Trump panics and pulls the nomination at this point. He knows how bad this is looking, and he’ll want to wash his hands of it in a hurry.

If he does pull the nomination, he’ll blame his aides and the Senate Republicans. He won’t take responsibility himself. But I do think even he is seeing how bad this looks. He just doesn’t get that it does reflect on him too.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:40:06am

re: #15 makeitstop

Who knows what Trump will do? Maybe he’ll use the opportunity to appoint Rosenstein to the Supreme Court to get him out of the DOJ.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:40:24am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:40:33am

If Ford is credible, if even Republicans have to admit that she’s telling the truth about the attack, what’s their fallback? What could Kavanaugh do at this point that would convince them that, sure, she remembers all these particular details, but gosh, it wasn’t him?

Plus, you know, Kamala Harris is gonna fucking SHRED him.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:40:39am
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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:41:04am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:41:19am

re: #8 Interesting Times

Ha, great idea:

“No, sorry, no Fox News on my cable. My cable doesn’t carry it and as you know, there can only be one cable provider per town/county/state.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:41:23am

re: #16 BeachDem

Yeah—he has always been full of shit—I think this little exchange says it well.

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Yeah I admit I’ve explored the possibility he may be compromised but I think this could be old Occam’s at play. Someone who knows he never had the TP’s trust going all pro-Trump agenda as possible for survivor. It reminds me of reading about the old leftists who rightfully condemned Lenin just like Lindsay sort of did with the Tea Party but defended Stalin just like Lindsay and Trumpism. I do think what has people curious is how quickly and abruptly it happened tho.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:41:56am

re: #19 makeitstop

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The Red state Dems get to be on the offensive for a change when it comes to SCOTUS.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:42:04am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

If he does pull the nomination, he’ll blame his aides and the Senate Republicans. He won’t take responsibility himself. But I do think even he is seeing how bad this looks. He just doesn’t get that it does reflect on him too.

And Mitchell. She’ll get the worst of it, what with being a woman and all.

He may just decide he doesn’t want to be associated with the newly-minted loser that Kavanaugh has become.

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CongoJack  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:42:19am

I wonder if the Rs have a plan for when this farce is over and Kavanaugh not only does not become a Supreme Court Justice but also loses his current judge position because of pile-o-bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:42:44am

re: #26 makeitstop

And Mitchell. She’ll get the worst of it, what with being a woman and all.

He may just decide he doesn’t want to be associated with the newly-minted loser that Kavanaugh has become.

Oh yeah, he’ll definitely rage against Mitchell too.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:42:55am

re: #22 b.d.(true to form)

Yes I think she may have actually saved them from themselves in a way, especially if they just go ahead and confirm Kav anyway.

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Talking Point Detective  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:43:20am

Incredibly moving.

I thought that in general the Demz were grandstanding a bit… but that was to be expected.

I thought Harris was quite good.

The Republican strategy turned out to be a complete fail.

Hard to imagine how Ford could have been any better.

Republicans’ failure to allow an FBI investigation looks like a collosal own goal.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:43:21am

When is Kavanaugh himself supposed to testify?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:43:32am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

What I didn’t know until now that Graham was this horrible all along. Goddamn what a fucking awful person he is.

Still remember what Dad said about him during Clinton’s impeachment. Dad said “he tries to be a dog turd dipped in chocolate and he can’t get the chocolate to stick”.

I miss you, Dad…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:43:41am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

What I didn’t know until now that Graham was this horrible all along. Goddamn what a fucking awful person he is.

I suspect Graham is a weak man who attaches himself to stronger men and follows their lead. When he was attached to McCain, he was mavericky like McCain. But then McCain died on him, and he attached himself to Trump, so now he’s all in for Trump.

BTW, given Trump’s reported mocking of Jeff Sessions for his Southern accent, I don’t see him replacing Sessions with Graham.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:44:30am

re: #31 HappyWarrior

When is Kavanaugh himself supposed to testify?

We’re 15 or so minutes into a 45 minute recess.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:44:37am

Don’t be surprised if Trump comes out and supports Kavanaugh even more, and the GOP still votes to confirm him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:00am

re: #32 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember what Dad said about him during Clinton’s impeachment. Dad said “he tries to be a dog turd dipped in chocolate and he can’t get the chocolate to stick”.

I miss you, Dad…

Hahahaa, I like Dad Bacon’s way with words, Joe. Whenever I see Oliver North on TV acting like he’s this fine American patriot, I think back to my Grandpa whom I’m named after who Ollie tried to shake hands with at a Slavic festival back in ‘94 and Grandpa could only respond with “Robb’s got ya.” Grandpa never made it as an officer like Ollie nor did he meet any Presidents but he didn’t lie before Congress to protect one either and while he was a lifelong gun owner, he never would have devalued safety to make a bunch of fringe loonies happy.

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:01am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Yeah I admit I’ve explored the possibility he may be compromised but I think this could be old Occam’s at play. Someone who knows he never had the TP’s trust going all pro-Trump agenda as possible for survivor. It reminds me of reading about the old leftists who rightfully condemned Lenin just like Lindsay sort of did with the Tea Party but defended Stalin just like Lindsay and Trumpism. I do think what has people curious is how quickly and abruptly it happened tho.

A, he didn’t need the TPers for his last election; the closest any of them got to him in the primary was 15%. B, those of us who have watched him closely over time have long recognized that he primarily wants tv face time. I will admit that he’s gone totally off the rails lately—I think he’s looking for the AG job, but who knows. He’s always been an equivocating, smarmy asshole.

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ObserverArt  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:02am

I made this comment to Scottish Dragon in the last thread…not realizing there was a new one.

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I’m reading down the comments, but I take it you are talking about Lindsey Graham’s latest comments.

All I can say is…why the hell did no one ask him if he is so damned concerned and upset the Democrats are delaying so they can win the election and control the nomination…where was his upset with Mitch blocking Obama.

Our media failed us, again. Come on this isn’t that hard.

To me blocking Obama’s nomination of Garland was historic and should be at the front of the mind of anyone doing political coverage.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:16am

re: #34 makeitstop

We’re 15 or so minutes into a 45 minute recess.

Got it. Thanks.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:41am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

What I didn’t know until now that Graham was this horrible all along. Goddamn what a fucking awful person he is.

So Lindsey Graham thinks this was a “ambush”?? How can this guy even breathe through the stench of his own bullshit? I’m just Some Guy On The Internet, and I could see how this would play out: does Graham not read the papers/listen to the news/go online? Ever?
Maybe they couldn’t have have stage-managed every step of Prof. Ford’s appearance, but the Committee Democrats have played this like a Stradivarius: the Republicans have tried desperately to fix the optics of airing the accusations against Kavanaugh, and failed badly at almost every opportunity. Mainly by their own doing
All that’s left to them (IMO) is naked power-politics: forcing a floor vote, and having Leader McTurtle use every means (however vile) to get to 50 . Which (thankfully) he may not get.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:51am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:46:59am

re: #37 BeachDem

A, he didn’t need the TPers for his last election; the closest any of them got to him in the primary was 15%. B, those of us who have watched him closely over time have long recognized that he primarily wants tv face time. I will admit that he’s gone totally off the rails lately—I think he’s looking for the AG job, but who knows. He’s always been an equivocating, smarmy asshole.

Ahhh gotcha. But yeah fuck him whatever he’s doing.HE ain’t a victim.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:47:05am

re: #34 makeitstop

We’re 15 or so minutes into a 45 minute recess.

Think he’ll show?

// 1/2

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:47:25am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

If he does pull the nomination, he’ll blame his aides and the Senate Republicans. He won’t take responsibility himself. But I do think even he is seeing how bad this looks. He just doesn’t get that it does reflect on him too.

Mcgahn and his team effed up
They didn’t know
Or should have

Because it clearly wasnt that hard to find

And if they did know……

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Talking Point Detective  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:47:49am

Btw, Graham condescending to Ford, arguing that she was used by Demz is disgusting beyond words. How anyone could be there for her powerful testimony and demonstration of courage, and still deny her agency, to argue that she is a powerless (female) victim of others, beggars belief.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:48:48am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Don’t be surprised if Trump comes out and supports Kavanaugh even more, and the GOP still votes to confirm him.

Possibly. Depends on Kavanaugh. I’m not sure what there is left that Kavanaugh can do, though. What’s his play to get out of this?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:48:53am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:48:57am

re: #38 ObserverArt

I made this comment to Scottish Dragon in the last thread…not realizing there was a new one.

- - -

I’m reading down the comments, but I take it you are talking about Lindsey Graham’s latest comments.

All I can say is…why the hell did no one ask him if he is so damned concerned and upset the Democrats are delaying so they can win the election and control the nomination…where was his upset with Mitch blocking Obama.

Our media failed us, again. Come on this isn’t that hard.

To me blocking Obama’s nomination of Garland was historic and should be at the front of the mind of anyone doing political coverage.

As far as I’m concerned, the Garland block is one of the most shameful moments of the Senate’s history. Not as bad as Senator Sumner being attacked by a slavery supporting Congressman mind you but definitely something that needs to be the focus of the historiography of the Obama years and Mitch’s brag “I told the President that you will not get a Supreme Court justice” and then crying when Kavanaugh who got a fucking hearing being actually questioned and held accountable.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:49:39am

re: #37 BeachDem

A, he didn’t need the TPers for his last election; the closest any of them got to him in the primary was 15%. B, those of us who have watched him closely over time have long recognized that he primarily wants tv face time. I will admit that he’s gone totally off the rails lately—I think he’s looking for the AG job, but who knows. He’s always been an equivocating, smarmy asshole.

I don’t understand why any member of Congress would want a post in this administration. Especially someone like Graham, who could have been Senator for life if he wanted. Sessions, I can sort of understand, he’s 71, he probably didn’t have too many more elections in him, so why not spread the message of the confederacy from the DOJ? But anyone else? Why?

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:50:04am

Rove…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:50:10am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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Can I just say how happy I am that Patton and I probably go to the same gym.*

*His hometown is where I go to the gym and apparently he still visits sometimes and my brother swears he saw him one time.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:50:33am
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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:50:57am

Thanks all, for the running commentary. Wasn’t able to watch this morning, and I absolutely can’t force myself to watch Kreepy Kavanaugh (if he even shows up) pat himself on his self-righteous back this afternoon.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:51:31am

re: #50 makeitstop

Rove…

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I’d almost rather Graham call her a slut who should have kept her mouth shut if he’s going to play that condescending game.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:51:33am

Something I would like for people to stop normalizing: That Republicans will, in the end, get their own way. They just might. But people should be angry that they do, not resigned to it and broadcasting to the world that they’re resigned to it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:51:37am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:52:34am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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Leaving aside that they’re still peddling this ridiculous conspiracy theory, a week after it flamed out so disastrously, isn’t that part of Maryland just chock full of houses with all the same basic floorplan?

Mrs. FBW and I were talking about this, because we live in a development built right after WWII, where all the houses share their overall layout, and we enjoy seeing the ever-so-slight variations on it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:53:15am

re: #55 Belafon

Something I would like for people to stop normalizing: That Republicans will, in the end, get their own way. They just might. But people should be angry that they do, not resigned to it and broadcasting to the world that they’re resigned to it.

Honestly, I’m very interested in hearing what the voters I talk to say this weekend. We go after solid Dems obviously but we’re also going after people we think split their ticket last time, we have a Republican Congresswoman but Clinton won our district by 10% which btw despite all the claims about how awful she is was in fact better than Obama did both times. Love Obama but Clinton actually did better than him in some places and that’s forgotten.

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:53:16am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

Yeah I admit I’ve explored the possibility he may be compromised but I think this could be old Occam’s at play. Someone who knows he never had the TP’s trust going all pro-Trump agenda as possible for survivor. It reminds me of reading about the old leftists who rightfully condemned Lenin just like Lindsay sort of did with the Tea Party but defended Stalin just like Lindsay and Trumpism. I do think what has people curious is how quickly and abruptly it happened tho.

It’s the “quickly and abruptly” bit. Remember, not only the DNC was hacked by Russian-affiliated hackers, but the RNC was too. We haven’t seen any of the RNC’s emails, and based on “normal” Republican behavior these days, it’s probably going-to-prison level explosive. And Repub senators got very deferential after a round of golf with the yam.

So, Russia hacks the RNC, gets tons of horrible dirt. Hands it to Trump to blackmail Congressional goopers. Trump does this with abandon. So Congressional goopers are tied to Trump under threat of destruction, and Trump is tied to Putin under threat of destruction, because if and when this little scheme gets out that’s basically treason. I figure, inshallah when Dems win at least the House, some of these hearings are going to be very interesting.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:53:25am

re: #45 Talking Point Detective

Btw, Graham condescending to Ford, arguing that she was used by Demz is disgusting beyond words. How anyone could be there for her powerful testimony and demonstration of courage, and still deny her agency, to argue that she is a powerless (female) victim of others, beggars belief.

When you got nothing left….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:54:00am

re: #59 ericblair

It’s the “quickly and abruptly” bit. Remember, not only the DNC was hacked by Russian-affiliated hackers, but the RNC was too. We haven’t seen any of the RNC’s emails, and based on “normal” Republican behavior these days, it’s probably going-to-prison level explosive. And Repub senators got very deferential after a round of golf with the yam.

So, Russia hacks the RNC, gets tons of horrible dirt. Hands it to Trump to blackmail Congressional goopers. Trump does this with abandon. So Congressional goopers are tied to Trump under threat of destruction, and Trump is tied to Putin under threat of destruction, because if and when this little scheme gets out that’s basically treason. I figure, inshallah when Dems win at least the House, some of these hearings are going to be very interesting.

That is a good point.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:55:09am
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calochortus  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:55:15am

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Leaving aside that they’re still peddling this ridiculous conspiracy theory, a week after it flamed out so disastrously, isn’t that part of Maryland just chock full of houses with all the same basic floorplan?

Mrs. FBW and I were talking about this, because we live in a development built right after WWII, where all the houses share their overall layout, and we enjoy seeing the ever-so-slight variations on it.

Well, yeah but sometimes the living room is on the left, and other times it’s on the right. Totally unique!

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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:55:47am

re: #49 KGxvi

I don’t understand why any member of Congress would want a post in this administration. Especially someone like Graham, who could have been Senator for life if he wanted. Sessions, I can sort of understand, he’s 71, he probably didn’t have too many more elections in him, so why not spread the message of the confederacy from the DOJ? But anyone else? Why?

I think it’s because of all of his “accomplishments,” Lindsey is most proud of being a JAG, and probably thinks AG would be the legal crowning glory to his career. Not sure—Lindsey and I have a hate/ignore relationship; I send him letters and emails and he ignores me. Well, I used to, but when he went from sending boilerplate responses to totally no response at all, I decided to spend my time doing more productive things.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:55:54am

re: #47 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:55:56am

re: #62 Single-handed sailor

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Longer Lindsay: It’s like they put their hands all over mouths and turned up the music and locked the door so we couldn’t get out!

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:56:26am

re: #55 Belafon

Something I would like for people to stop normalizing: That Republicans will, in the end, get their own way. They just might. But people should be angry that they do, not resigned to it and broadcasting to the world that they’re resigned to it.

I think we’re starting to see some cracks in the facade. A couple of Republican Senators have said the vote should be delayed. Now we’re seeing stuff from Senators we didn’t realize were uneasy, like Kennedy. We’ve all been waiting for the dam to break, and maybe this turns into a Harriet Meirs situation where a lot of Republicans buck the president over a bad choice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:57:34am

re: #67 KGxvi

I think we’re starting to see some cracks in the facade. A couple of Republican Senators have said the vote should be delayed. Now we’re seeing stuff from Senators we didn’t realize were uneasy, like Kennedy. We’ve all been waiting for the dam to break, and maybe this turns into a Harriet Meirs situation where a lot of Republicans buck the president over a bad choice.

Kennedy has been fairly surprising. Don’t like the guy, would never ever vote for him but he has shown surprising amounts of independence for a reddest of red state Republicans.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:58:00am

re: #52 Kragar

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Wait..there’s other stuff going on today?

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:58:16am

re: #55 Belafon

Something I would like for people to stop normalizing: That Republicans will, in the end, get their own way. They just might. But people should be angry that they do, not resigned to it and broadcasting to the world that they’re resigned to it.

THIS THIS THIS. False optimism sets people up for disaster, but so too does unmitigated defeatism. Or as Sarah Kendzior says:

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:58:28am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:59:01am

All it takes is 2 Republican Senators to say Kavanfuckingnoway. That’s why every election matters guys. That’s why Doug Jones’ win means something. That’s why even though you don’t like Manchin, HEidencamp, or any of hte othe conservative Dems, you hope they win because they’re far more likely to vote no on a shitty nominee like this than a Republican who would be doing what we’re seeing with Graham cracker.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:59:11am

re: #67 KGxvi

I think we’re starting to see some cracks in the facade. A couple of Republican Senators have said the vote should be delayed. Now we’re seeing stuff from Senators we didn’t realize were uneasy, like Kennedy. We’ve all been waiting for the dam to break, and maybe this turns into a Harriet Meirs situation where a lot of Republicans buck the president over a bad choice.

Kennedy is also the one at the end who was like “why didn’t democrats participate in” some phone call. Don’t give him any benefit of the doubt. It won’t happen.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:59:27am

In the movie version of this, Kavanaugh would show up drunk to this hearing….

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:00:47pm

Everything about this is a shitshow.

The GOP wants Kavanaugh so badly they’ll fuck things up to get him on the Court. They don’t care if it means losing Congress. They will have gotten the Supreme Court for a generation.

That’s what this is about - and they’re willing to go scorched earth to do it.

They blocked Obama’s pick to make this a possibility. Now they have the golden ring in their grasp and they’re going to say/do anything to achieve this gamed outcome.

The reality is that the GOP doesn’t care what was said today. They already made their decisions. We get the signaling from Graham, who’s a Trumpist at this point. He’s telling Trump what he wants to hear, and has been pushing this for a while now.

Collins and Murkowski are MIA at the moment, but have no doubt that McConnell is trying to twist their arms into going along with this travesty.

Same with Flake. The three of them claim to be open minded and above the fray, but they’re all about furthering the GOP agenda just as the rest of the GOP are.

Mavericks, they aren’t.

They’re all putting party over nation, and that’s the mo for the entire party at this point.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:00:49pm

What can Kavanaugh possibly say after that?

I have a feeling this is going to be highly enraging.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:01:11pm

I’ll be willing to bet that the more conspiracy-minded on the Right (like, all of them) will be on board with the ‘Mitchell was secretly on Ford’s side’ theory before long.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:02:21pm

How soon before we get some right wing crackpot claiming that Dr. Ford saw a life model decoy of Kavanaugh, and that it wasn’t the real one?

They’re pushing these conspiracies so hard that I might have missed it though.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:02:25pm
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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:02:33pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

What can Kavanaugh possibly say after that?

I have a feeling this is going to be highly enraging.

SHE WANTED TO HAVE TEH SEX WITH ME BUT I LAUGHED AT HER AND TURNED HER DOWN

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:02:46pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:02:58pm

re: #74 b.d.(true to form)

In the movie version of this, Kavanaugh would show up drunk to this hearing….

In the movie, he seems normal at first, then he grows belligerent and more apparent he’s drunk as the pressure gets on, and then he eventually admits it and says “I’m Brett Kavanaugh goddamn it, you can’t stop me” and then a Montgomery County police officer, preferably a woman of color says “Brett Kavanaugh, you’re under arrest for the rape of Chrsitine Blasey Ford, you have the right to remain silent, anything you do and say can be used against you in a court of law, you have a right to an attorney, if you cannot afford one, one will be provided to you.”

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BlueGrl21  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:03:12pm

re: #46 Blind Frog Belly White

Possibly. Depends on Kavanaugh. I’m not sure what there is left that Kavanaugh can do, though. What’s his play to get out of this?

There is no play. If he fights he loses. The only way out is to say the assault happened but it wasn’t him. She was very sure it was him. She was too strong in her testimony.

Republican Senators voting against her…and that’s what it is now, a vote against her…will have no justification for it other than, “I believed him, not her.” And MAAANNNN, you don’t want to do that to women right now.

He needs to withdraw, say he’s doing it to spare his family the circus.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:03:30pm

re: #73 MsJ

Kennedy is also the one at the end who was like “why didn’t democrats participate in” some phone call. Don’t give him any benefit of the doubt. It won’t happen.

Oh, don’t worry, I’m not even to “trust but verify”, I’m more in the “I’m very skeptical, prove yourself, sir” range.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:03:58pm

re: #81 Charles Johnson

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Which frankly is why he shouldn’t run or be the nominee in 2020. I believe he realizes he fucked up but time to move on Joe.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:04:29pm
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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:04:51pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

What can Kavanaugh possibly say after that?

I have a feeling this is going to be highly enraging.

I predict he’ll DARVO as much as possible, hyping claims that he/his family have received threats (I doubt he has, and even if partially true, not nearly to the degree as Christine Blasey Ford). He’ll also drag his wife/daughters into it by pointing them out in the audience and boo-hoo-hoo about how “unfair” the process is.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:05:03pm

re: #83 BlueGrl21

There is no play. If he fights he loses. The only way out is to say the assault happened but it wasn’t him. She was very sure it was him. She was too strong in her testimony.

Republican Senators voting against her…and that’s what it is now, a vote against her…will have no justification for it other than, “I believed him, not her.” And MAAANNNN, you don’t want to do that to women right now.

He needs to withdraw, say he’s doing it to spare his family the circus.

If he’s even close to the man they claim him to be, that’s what he should do. And after all this, there’s no way he can be impartial on SCOTUS. He’ll carry around the same partisan vendetta that Thomas has.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:05:44pm

I think I heard Steve Schmidt or someone who would know better than me said that Republicans were going to bet the farm on this. There would be willing to trade the Senate for this seat. We’ll see. I’m also hearing they don’t have the votes.

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Kragar  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:06:33pm
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calochortus  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:06:43pm

I’m listening to NPR and (I think) Nina Tottenberg said that Kavanaugh looked “fragile” in his Fox interview and his wife looked like she’d been hit with a 2x4. She thinks this could be interesting.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:06:46pm
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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:06:58pm
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Kragar  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:07:36pm

re: #92 Charles Johnson

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:07:36pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

What can Kavanaugh possibly say after that?

I have a feeling this is going to be highly enraging.

He had a brief opportunity, when this first came out, to own up to the excessive drinking, and even the toxic male bonding rituals, to beg forgiveness and throw himself on the mercy of the court.

He chose total denial. Then, on Fox, he tried to pretend he was a choirboy.

He cut off all his lines of retreat. His only hope was that Ford come across as a liar.

Oops.

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dangerman  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:07:40pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

I think I heard Steve Schmidt or someone who would know better than me said that Republicans were going to bet the farm on this. There would be willing to trade the Senate for this seat. We’ll see. I’m also hearing they don’t have the votes.

I know it’s a long shot
They may be able to ram him onto the court

There is not a 100% guarantee he will stay there

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:07:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:08:19pm

re: #90 Kragar

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Just in case you thought FNC wasn’t still a shit show. Fucking asshole. She wasn’t being a slut that day you miserable motherfucker. She was ambushed by two drunk assholes who can’t hold their liquor and don’t know how to treat women. You know who’s a fucking’ “Slut”, your jackass President Trump who couldn’t even be loyal to his wife when she was a new mother.

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Interesting Times  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:09:03pm

For those of you who thought CSPAN calls would be filled with a firehose of trumpchump trolls, seems like it’s turning out to be something very, very different:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:09:06pm

re: #91 calochortus

I’m listening to NPR and (I think) Nina Tottenberg said that Kavanaugh looked “fragile” in his Fox interview and his wife looked like she’d been hit with a 2x4. She thinks this could be interesting.

For the first time in his life, he’s actually being held accountable.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:09:46pm
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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:10:25pm
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:10:56pm

re: #102 b.d.(true to form)

There’s a goddamned tweet for every occasion.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:11:21pm

re: #94 Kragar

YouTube

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:11:25pm

re: #77 makeitstop

I’ll be willing to bet that the more conspiracy-minded on the Right (like, all of them) will be on board with the ‘Mitchell was secretly on Ford’s side’ theory before long.

I will laugh so hard I’ll probably have to leave work early.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:11:48pm

Angry guy defense isn’t going to work well.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:13:04pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

I think I heard Steve Schmidt or someone who would know better than me said that Republicans were going to bet the farm on this. There would be willing to trade the Senate for this seat. We’ll see. I’m also hearing they don’t have the votes.

I mentioned the other day, the Pod Save America guys were suggesting that a rejection of Kavanaugh is better than a withdrawal. A rejection fires up the base to go after evil liberals and RINOs, a withdrawal means weak GOP leadership.

But I wonder if a rejection doesn’t kill the GOP base. After all this work, they still can’t get the votes.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:13:15pm

re: #106 Scottish Dragon

Angry guy defense isn’t going to work well.

I really don’t see what else he’s got to go with at this point.

Also - is Mitchell questioning him, or did the Rs take their balls out of the hearing room locker?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:13:38pm

re: #101 makeitstop

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That guy Bob is exactly the kind of person I’ve observed. The person that thinks FNC isn’t right wing enough. Props to Bret for actually not being a hack.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:14:48pm
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Sir John Barron  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:16:04pm

re: #99 Interesting Times

For those of you who thought CSPAN calls would be filled with a firehose of trumpchump trolls, seems like it’s turning out to be something very, very different:

Wait, whut, turn the wingnut phone machines back on!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:18:15pm
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Kragar  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:20:06pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:21:45pm

re: #59 ericblair

It’s the “quickly and abruptly” bit. Remember, not only the DNC was hacked by Russian-affiliated hackers, but the RNC was too. We haven’t seen any of the RNC’s emails, and based on “normal” Republican behavior these days, it’s probably going-to-prison level explosive. And Repub senators got very deferential after a round of golf with the yam.

So, Russia hacks the RNC, gets tons of horrible dirt. Hands it to Trump to blackmail Congressional goopers. Trump does this with abandon. So Congressional goopers are tied to Trump under threat of destruction, and Trump is tied to Putin under threat of destruction, because if and when this little scheme gets out that’s basically treason. I figure, inshallah when Dems win at least the House, some of these hearings are going to be very interesting.

Weren’t the hacked DNC emails pretty benign — just some inside the Beltway nonsense and Bernie-is-not-the-Messiah notes? Nothing criminal, only perhaps a little embarrassing?

Of course, it is possible that the Russian also have truly terrible DNC emails that they continue to hold to blackmail Dems when they return to power.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:25:14pm

re: #8 Interesting Times

Ha, great idea:

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How do you tame a horse in minecraft

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ericblair  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:27:02pm

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

Weren’t the hacked DNC emails pretty benign — just some inside the Beltway nonsense and Bernie-is-not-the-Messiah notes? Nothing criminal, only perhaps a little embarrassing?

Of course, it is possible that the Russian also have truly terrible DNC emails that they continue to hold to blackmail Dems when they return to power.

Yes, the DNC ones were pretty benign, because they’re Democrats. If there were criminal ones in there, they’d have been on page A1 of the NYT for months. Whatever was the least bit incriminating is old news now.

I don’t expect the same out of the RNC.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:29:14pm

It’s a funny thing…now that Dr. Ford has testified and been believed a weight has lifted off my shoulders I’ve carried for the past 3 years. And the 20 years before that.

I can turn it off now. Whatever happens with Kavanaugh’s testimony doesn’t matter to me. Dr. Ford’s did. And it doesn’t even matter that people do or do not believe her, I can’t control that. What matters is she went up in front of the country, would not be silent, and told her story.

Let the rest fall however it will.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2018 • 12:53:07pm

re: #114 Hecuba’s daughter

Weren’t the hacked DNC emails pretty benign — just some inside the Beltway nonsense and Bernie-is-not-the-Messiah notes? Nothing criminal, only perhaps a little embarrassing?

Of course, it is possible that the Russian also have truly terrible DNC emails that they continue to hold to blackmail Dems when they return to power.

And Podesta’s risotto recipe.


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