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BeachDem  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:05:20pm

Tweet of the Day at kos (it really is perfect)

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:07:11pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:08:39pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:09:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:10:25pm

re: #2 Ace-o-aces

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I just don’t know how anyone can realistically say there isn’t institutionalized sexism in this country after today. Between Kavanaugh and Graham’s meltdown. I can’t imagine any woman judge or Senator having a meltdown and then being taken seriously after that. In fact, I imagine she’d be mocked heavily. Kavanaugh isn’t fit for the Supreme Court or honestly any court. And he already seems to be wanting revenge. I don’t know if it’s ego, delusion, or pure deflection but that he really thinks that this is a conspiracy to get him says a lot. He was a shitty candidate before Dr. Ford’s allegations came out, to be frank a mediocre man sold as a great man but after Ford’s allegations and his temper tantrum on the Senate, he’s nothing more than a pathetic old frat boy who never grew up who was given way too much power when GWB gave him his current job.

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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:11:08pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:11:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:11:13pm

re: #4 Ace-o-aces

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He really is pathetic. And stlll my Congressman Barbara Comstock says nothing about her old friend Brett but you can be damn sure she would if he were Clinton connected and acting this way.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:13:32pm

re: #6 Ace-o-aces

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I really hate that loathsome toad. I don’t know what happened between Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo that day but I do know that Maria was the same age as Christine Ford when it happened and she had nothing to do with it or the decision not to file criminal charges. Ben Shapiro again showing why he needs to be kneed in the balls rather than debated.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:14:02pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

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That’s pretty big though the right has been convinced that the ABA are just liberals for some time.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:14:47pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:15:36pm

re: #11 teleskiguy

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Well I’ll be. But then again Dersh mostly sides with the R’s for foreign policy reasons.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:20:25pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Well I’ll be. But then again Dersh mostly sides with the R’s for foreign policy reasons.

Dersh is just a fifth columnist for Booby Nincompoopo

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:20:29pm

One can’t help but to notice that he always always without fail saves his condescending shit for women. I mean don’t get me wrong BS is an asshole to men but he saves his most condescending shit for women. I bet his wife and daughter love seeing that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:21:08pm

re: #13 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dersh is just a fifth columnist for Booby Nincompoopo

Right and what Bibi wants doesn’t impact SCOTUS that much so I guess it’s natural that he’s okay with an investigation here happening for Judge Dickface.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:21:35pm

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford was a powerful witness whose credibility really cannot be questioned by thinking people. Brett Kavanaugh lied under oath when he said he didn’t watch or listen to Dr. Ford’s testimony. He heard it. It made him angry. And it showed in Kavanaugh’s testimony.

Brett Kavanaugh didn’t discount that Dr. Ford had been sexually assaulted, he denied entirely that it was him. Maybe he believes it … because he was *blackout drunk* when he jumped on Dr. Ford in that locked bedroom, with his other very drunk friend Mark Judge keeping watch.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:25:15pm

My best friend’s daughter:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:26:47pm

re: #17 wheat-dogg

My best friend’s daughter:

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I have to admit I always felt a little uncomfortable at frat houses.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:42:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:46:06pm

re: #19 Single-handed sailor

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And….the man who nominated him enjoyed every second of it.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:47:57pm
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Jason Munro  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:54:06pm

Kavanaugh was disgraceful today. I get why Trump and his cult followers like him. His performance was shameful. He acted like an entitled teenager - even going so far as to redefine obviously misogynistic slang. Give me a fucking break. On top of that he showed himself to be an blatant partisan. Just like Trump has demeaned the presidency, this conformation will demean the SCOTUS. Fucking sad day for America :(

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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2018 • 9:54:29pm

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

Whoa.

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Trump and the GOPers in Congress ignored the ABA on Gorsuch, they sure as fuck ain’t gonna care about what they have to say about Kavanaugh now.

The brass ring of a SCOTUS dominated by their ilk for a generation or more is just within their reach, they just have to push through what resistance is being given and they sure as fuck are going for broke on this one.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:02:49pm

if you were in a cafe and somebody there started acting like fratboy brett was acting today, you would leave the cafe

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:02:51pm
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austin_blue  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:08:59pm

‘Naugh appears to be an Opus Dei Catholic out of guilt and shame. A true believer for his past sins. In other words, a fanatic. But he continues to sin. He brazenly lies. He does not confess past sins, whether venal (drunkedness), or mortal, like attempted rape (thy shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods), or bearing false witness (whenever he opens his mouth). And don’t get me started about his gambling debts disguised as “baseball ticket” purchases.

In other words, he’s a really rotten Catholic, much less an Opus Dei Catholic (my sister is one, don’t get me started). There’s a reason the Jebbies dumped him today. He is not what he presents himself to be. He’s a lying piece of shit and even the Catholic hierarchy in the US recognizes it.

BUT, that aligns him with Drumpf and the Republican Senate. They’re all asshole buddies on this! He’s their perfect SCOTUS candidate. He’s also the perfect Koch candidate. He’ll protect Drumpf, he’ll protect Citizens United, he’ll vote to gut the New Deal, 60’s and more modern programs, and he’ll do it for thirty years. Adios, Social Security, the ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, the Voting Rights Act, and Obergefell. Not to mention Roe.

Just like he tried to yank off Ford’s one-piece bathing suit and fuck her, he’s going to vote to yank the social safety net out from under us and fuck 99% of the US population. He’s a disease literally 25 years in the making, since Newt’s Contract For (On) America, writ large and in our faces. He’s our worst nightmare

And Drumpf’s base is going to support that.

Register. Vote the fuckers out of office. Take back the country. These are not our values. This is not what we are.

The. Opposition. Is. Stupid. Fucking. White. People.

Fuck them right in the earhole. They deserve it, despite the fact that we are trying to save them from their own idiocy.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:11:51pm

Here’s an adult dose of weird, just ‘cause.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:35:07pm
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Ace-o-aces  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:44:32pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:47:08pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 10:57:51pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:11:17pm

Was Kavanaugh’s tirade spontaneous or was it prepared perhaps by someone in the WH? I did not watch the circus and so have no way to evaluate the presentation.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:18:50pm
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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:23:49pm

re: #32 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m guessing it was entitled rich white dude privilege, with a bit of encouragement from WH “Yeah, he LOVES it when you act like a complete shitball!” “OK, so I’ll just go be myself.”

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Dave In Austin  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:26:54pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:31:58pm

I saw this pic of Lindsey Graham…

…and I immediately thought of an episode of “Big Bang Theory”, where Penny tries to get Amy to ‘make a scene’ so Sheldon will know how upset she is. Amy can’t pull it off, but then Raj goes on a rant about how they all ignore his feelings.

And Penny says, “And THAT’S how a girl makes a scene.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:37:18pm

BTW, the proper response to Lindsey’s attack of the vapors by the next Dem up would have been the slow clap. But even better would be, while he was doing it, to mime jerking off.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:43:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:49:26pm

Ya know, if white men insist on keeping everything skewed towards ourselves, so that we overwhelmingly reap the benefits of the American System, there will come a time when anyone who isn’t a white man will stop feeling loyalty to that system. And there are more of them than there are of us.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:57:03pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:57:05pm

re: #39 Blind Frog Belly White

Ya know, if white men insist on keeping everything skewed towards them, so that we overwhelmingly reap the benefits of the American System, there will come a time when anyone who isn’t a white man will stop feeling loyalty to that system. And there are more of them than there are of us.

Samantha has already threatened to come after their “rapist friends”…white male genocide in the making!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2018 • 11:59:31pm

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Samantha has already threatened to come after their “rapist friends”…white male genocide in the making!!!

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This is where the party ends.
I can’t stand here listening to you,
And your rapist friend.
I know politics bore you,
But I feel like a hypocrite talking you,
And your rapist friend.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:05:14am

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

This is where the party ends.
I can’t stand here listening to you,
And your rapist friend.
I know politics bore you,
But I feel like a hypocrite talking you,
And your rapist friend.

Boy howdy, I am so gonna steal those lyrics for the next time I play that song…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:09:00am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Boy howdy, I am so gonna steal those lyrics for the next time I play that song…

And I only had to change one letter. Twice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:14:13am

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

And I only had to change one letter. Twice.

There is room to expand on that…

Out in the Senate floor and in the Congress hallways
Your friends insist on doing it the Kavanaugh way

He let the contents of the bottles do the thinking
Can’t hold a woman down and say you’re only kidding

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:16:53am
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sagehen  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:26:38am

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

here’s what the jesuits had to say about it:

The Editors: It is time for the Kavanaugh nomination to be withdrawn
americamagazine.org

Dr. Blasey’s accusations have neither been fully investigated nor been proven to a legal standard, but neither have they been conclusively disproved or shown to be less than credible. Judge Kavanaugh continues to enjoy a legal presumption of innocence, but the standard for a nominee to the Supreme Court is far higher; there is no presumption of confirmability. The best of the bad resolutions available in this dilemma is for Judge Kavanaugh’s nomination to be withdrawn.

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teleskiguy  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:50:34am
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Lupin  Sep 28, 2018 • 1:00:52am

The French take this morning overwhelmingly seems to be that BK’s crocodile tears were less than convincing.

Also some writers pointed out the lack of interrogating potential witnesses, and some contradictions in BK’s story.

Popular newsite Mediapart concludes that “Republicans now have only lies and intox to get their man through.” (intox meaning propaganda in this context).

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Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2018 • 1:03:49am

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Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2018 • 1:09:02am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2018 • 4:07:45am

re: #11 teleskiguy

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Wow. So even Alan believes a FBI investigation needs to be conducted. Even ALAN.

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sagehen  Sep 28, 2018 • 4:19:35am

And it’s blindingly obvious that the reason Kav and his supporters don’t want an FBI investigation is because DEAR GOD PLEASE DON’T LET A TRAINED INVESTIGATOR SPEAK TO MARK JUDGE!!

Maybe because of what happened in that room with that woman, or maybe because of what happened in lots of other rooms with lots of other women…

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2018 • 4:43:54am

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

I saw this pic of Lindsey Graham…

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…and I immediately thought of an episode of “Big Bang Theory”, where Penny tries to get Amy to ‘make a scene’ so Sheldon will know how upset she is. Amy can’t pull it off, but then Raj goes on a rant about how they all ignore his feelings.

And Penny says, “And THAT’S how a girl makes a scene.”

So, having slept on it, what were Kav and Lindsey and the rest of them really so angry about? Did they not think we should have heard from Ford? Are they angry that her letter was leaked or that news that a letter existed was leaked? How did they really want the process to play out?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 4:45:07am

re: #54 Sir John Barron

So, having slept on it, what were Kav and Lindsey and the rest of them really so angry about? Did they not think we should have heard from Ford? Are they angry that her letter was leaked or that news that a letter existed was leaked? How did they really want the process to play out?

Republicans Engineered a “She Said, He Said” Hearing, and It Turned Out Just How They Wanted

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2018 • 4:52:47am

Blasey Ford was like Hillary Clinton, enduring bullshit questioning.

Kavanaugh was like Donald Trump, spewing spite and invective.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 4:58:44am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:02:35am

re: #57 MsJ

The ABA has requested a halt to Kav’s confirmation til the FBI investigation is complete.

The Jesuits (who run Kav’s school) has withdrawn its support of him.

But GOP is going 2 force this terrifyingly emotional, hyper partisan, drunken abuser into another lifetime appointment.

They have always put their interests and ideology above any sense of decency or propriety.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:05:53am
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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:11:11am

I woke up after trying to sleep on all of this. And I feel just as helpless as I did last night.

Kennedy retiring and the GOP getting to immediately name his successor was terrible, but the entire fucking process really shows how much the GOP utterly seems to control every aspect of the process, to where it doesn’t fucking matter how many organizations stand up, scream to be heard, show their credible anguish, It doesn’t matter.

The GOP controls it all, and they revel in your fucking anguish. They revel in women being shown that they will be brought back into the fucking kitchen barefoot, back to the days where martial rape wasn’t just not a crime but a husband’s duty. They revel knowing there’s a naked partisan, with no veneer of judicial restraint or objectivism, will be on the court and enabling the at least thinly-veiled partisans to institute all the conservative unicorns they can.

They own this fucking country, and not even electoral wins will be able to undo the damage at this point. They own us forever and are constantly reminding us, taunting us that we don’t matter. Dems don’t matter. PoC don’t matter. Women don’t matter. They all own it forever and will make sure they never ever let it go again.

That’s what this process has thrown into my face: the GOP letting this shitshow go on just to show how helpless we really are in the face of their fucking unstoppable power. Popular opinion be damned, because the ‘real Americans’ who actually matter will love it. We’re just servants and serfs to abuse.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:11:43am

re: #59 Patricia Kayden

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Hmmm wonder if this guy was on the list of people praising Kavanaugh?

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:11:44am

Screamy McRape Rape is going to get confirmed, isn’t he?

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:13:24am

I’m trying to imagine HRC going all Kave-ragey on Sean Hannity for the Seth Rich conspiracies.

Imagine how RWNJ or your typical GOPer would react to that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:15:18am

re: #62 b.d.(true to form)

Screamy McRape Rape is going to get confirmed, isn’t he?

Again: The GOP will lose face with its base if it backs down, and that will cost them vital support. They will also lose votes with the sane and humane part of the electorate if they nominate him.

Which is why I expect that they will just swallow their own vomit and vote him in, they can try to recover the lost support in upcoming elections, but then they will have their man installed for life

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:15:37am

re: #62 b.d.(true to form)

Screamy McRape Rape is going to get confirmed, isn’t he?

I hate to say it but the odds favor him. He’s going to be incapable of ruling independently. There already were imo legitimate questions about that but now? I’m afraid that this is another step towards Republican dominance of scotus. We need to win this fall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:16:52am

re: #19 Single-handed sailor

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“Not only was a potential justice on the highest court raging against one of the country’s two major political parties, but he was also leveling a serious allegation — that the process itself was being manipulated.”

Yes, the process was/is being manipulated … but it’s not the Democratic Party doing the manipulating.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:18:28am

re: #63 Sir John Barron

I’m trying to imagine HRC going all Kave-ragey on Sean Hannity for the Seth Rich conspiracies.

Imagine how RWNJ or your typical GOPer would react to that.

Or that Benghazi investigations were politically motivated to weaken her. Kavanaugh is a prick undeserving of this position or any of authority.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:20:00am

Wasn’t it Grassley yesterday who cited the ABA as one of the agencies that had looked into Kavanaugh and given him its “gold seal” or some such shit, thus “proving” that there was nothing to the allegations made against him?

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:20:56am

re: #62 b.d.(true to form)

Screamy McRape Rape is going to get confirmed, isn’t he?

It’s almost a certainty.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:20:57am

re: #63 Sir John Barron

I’m trying to imagine HRC going all Kave-ragey on Sean Hannity for the Seth Rich conspiracies.

Imagine how RWNJ or your typical GOPer would react to that.

Remember her vast right wing conspiracy comment back during Bill’s tenure and how they reacted.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:21:03am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

Or that Benghazi investigations were politically motivated to weaken her. Kavanaugh is a prick undeserving of this position or any of authority.

Right. Can you imagine the GOP Fox News response to HRC yelling at the Benghazi committee for 11 hours about this was all an anti-Obama Admin coup and that her life has been ruined, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:21:13am

re: #68 Targetpractice

Wasn’t it Grassley yesterday who cited the ABA as one of the agencies that had looked into Kavanaugh and given him its “gold seal” or some such shit, thus “proving” that there was nothing to the allegations made against him?

Kavanaugh himself certainly relied on the ABA seal of approval during his rant yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:23:15am
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Sir John Barron  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:24:42am

re: #68 Targetpractice

Wasn’t it Grassley yesterday who cited the ABA as one of the agencies that had looked into Kavanaugh and given him its “gold seal” or some such shit, thus “proving” that there was nothing to the allegations made against him?

Today the ABA will be attacked as a George Soros front that ran the pizza-gate child abuse ring.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:27:22am

re: #71 Sir John Barron

Right. Can you imagine the GOP Fox News response to HRC yelling at the Benghazi committee for 11 hours about this was all an anti-Obama Admin coup and that her life has been ruined, etc.

Right but it’s perfectly acceptable behavior for Kavanaugh to ask Senator Klobuchar if she’s ever blacked out and shit like that. He’s not going to be independent on the bench. It was an issue before yesterday. It’s really one today but they don’t want an arbitrator, they want a right wing hack.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:27:54am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I hate to say it but the odds favor him. He’s going to be incapable of ruling independently. There already were imo legitimate questions about that but now? I’m afraid that this is another step towards Republican dominance of scotus. We need to win this fall.

We need to win big now and in 2 years, add two more seats to the court and keep buying Kavanaugh booze, he doesn’t look too healthy.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:30:49am

re: #76 b.d.(true to form)

We need to win big now and in 2 years, add two more seats to the court and keep buying Kavanaugh booze, he doesn’t look too healthy.

What I’m worried about is how much legislation is going to be erased in that time. It took years to enact it and it will easily be gone. See that imo is why it’s incorrect to label them judicial conservatives. They don’t respect precedent.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:31:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:32:01am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

What I’m worried about is how much legislation is going to be erased in that time. It took years to enact it and it will easily be gone. See that imo is why it’s incorrect to label them judicial conservatives. They don’t respect precedent.

they are ideologues

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:32:18am

re: #74 Sir John Barron

Today the ABA will be attacked as a George Soros front that ran the pizza-gate child abuse ring.

Nah, they will be completely ignored.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:33:19am

re: #78 MsJ

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Ahh there’s the artist formerly known as the worst president in my lifetime before Trump.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:33:32am

Thread.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:34:26am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Ahh there’s the artist formerly known as the worst president in my lifetime before Trump.

I actually find Dubya’s involving himself to get Kav confirmed far more disturbing. It’s proof that the GOP went off the rails long ago (everyone here knows that).

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:35:17am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they are ideologues

Masquerading as umpires like Roberts. We need to build an alternative to the Federalist Society where we can create a farm system of intelligent attorneys to influence and advise on policy the way the FS has.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:36:03am

re: #83 MsJ

I actually find Dubya’s involving himself to get Kav confirmed far more disturbing. It’s proof that the GOP went off the rails long ago (everyone here knows that).

No doubt. I know he’s very close to Kavanaugh but damn.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:36:52am

Evangelical groups have anti-Roe v Wade lawsuits ready to file the second Kavanaugh is confirmed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:36:55am

re: #82 MsJ

Thread.

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A great one.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:37:56am

re: #86 GlutenFreeJesus

Evangelical groups have anti-Roe v Wade lawsuits ready to file the second Kavanaugh is confirmed.

And a drunkard Catholic boy will be the one that gives it to them. You couldn’t write this script.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:38:37am

re: #75 HappyWarrior

That was outrageous. She should have told him that she wasn’t there to answer his questions since she want a SCOTUS nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:39:36am

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

That was outrageous. She should have told him that she wasn’t there to answer his questions since she want a SCOTUS nominee.

Exactly. Fucking asshole. Deflect deflect.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:39:42am

re: #82 MsJ

Thread.

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The worst part is something I’ve mentioned before, where we’ve gone from feigned institutional ignorance to open institutional contempt. We’ve gone from behavior being shrugged off as ‘just the way it is, isn’t it?’ to ‘who cares if you got hurt, who cares if you know it’s wrong, we’re fucking you anyway’.

Before there was plausible deniability of certain things, before they were given sunlight. Now, shits out in the open, you have feminist movements, #MeToo, you have civil rights leading to BLM and all of it….and the powers that be, after ensuring they have all the levers, are standing in the face of it, and saying ‘we don’t care, we know it’s wrong, but we have all the fucking power so you simply don’t fucking matter’.

It’s purposeful, intentional erasure. It’s looking us straight in the eye and telling us ‘you are beneath us and that’s why we’ll win, forever.’ And it’s fucking working.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:40:01am
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:40:23am

re: #60 Citizen K

Elections have consequences and for some reason Americans have decided to turn the entire Congress over to Republicans. We can expect much worse if Republicans maintain control after November.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:41:20am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:44:48am

re: #94 Patricia Kayden

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The replies are depressing. Some of them raise a good point. Dr. Ford has experienced the same scrutiny including threats and didn’t act like this. I’m tired of right wingers and their excuses for punk ass drunk assholes like this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:46:08am

re: #91 Citizen K

The worst part is something I’ve mentioned before, where we’ve gone from feigned institutional ignorance to open institutional contempt. We’ve gone from behavior being shrugged off as ‘just the way it is, isn’t it?’ to ‘who cares if you got hurt, who cares if you know it’s wrong, we’re fucking you anyway’.

Before there was plausible deniability of certain things, before they were given sunlight. Now, shits out in the open, you have feminist movements, #MeToo, you have civil rights leading to BLM and all of it….and the powers that be, after ensuring they have all the levers, are standing in the face of it, and saying ‘we don’t care, we know it’s wrong, but we have all the fucking power so you simply don’t fucking matter’.

It’s purposeful, intentional erasure. It’s looking us straight in the eye and telling us ‘you are beneath us and that’s why we’ll win, forever.’ And it’s fucking working.

I think you illustrated why I’m so depressed by it. You’re right. It’s going from feigned ignorance to outright contempt.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:48:37am

One thing that really pissed me off yesterday: Bart O’KKK, complaining and comparing himself to Bork. Fuck any and everyone who claims Bork was treated unfair, or compares themselves to judge Neckbeard.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:52:52am

re: #62 b.d.(true to form)

Screamy McRape Rape is going to get confirmed, isn’t he?

Probably. If the Committee votes as scheduled this morning, its almost certain. If the vote gets “postponed”, then Kavanaugh’s sunk.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:53:28am

re: #97 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

One thing that really pissed me off yesterday: Bart O’KKK, complaining and comparing himself to Bork. Fuck any and everyone who claims Bork was treated unfair, or compares themselves to judge Neckbeard.

Bork proved the system worked. The President nominated Kavanaugh. The Senate with six Republicans rejected him. Checks and balances as was intended. You can’t cry about Bork and insist what happened to Garland was just. Bork was rejected after being given a chance to make his case. The Reagan Administration chose an extremist partisan and it backfired.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:54:00am

re: #63 Sir John Barron

I’m trying to imagine HRC going all Kave-ragey on Sean Hannity for the Seth Rich conspiracies.

Imagine how RWNJ or your typical GOPer would react to that.

I don’t have to imagine. I remember their reaction to her interview when she talked about the vast rightwing conspiracy.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:56:03am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Back then there were still republicans that cared. That is no longer the case today.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:56:39am

re: #100 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t have to imagine. I remember their reaction to her interview when she talked about the vast rightwing conspiracy.

Which funnily enough is how Kavanaugh made his bones. How can we expect anyone who has Kavanaugh’s record to rule impartially? Twenty years from now the Republicans will make a big deal of a judicial nominee were so much as friendly terms with Mueller investigators.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:57:32am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:57:42am

re: #101 GlutenFreeJesus

Back then there were still republicans that cared. That is no longer the case today.

I know. I’m merely pointing out that Kavanaugh continuing to push Bork as a victim is straight out of the right wing mythology book.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:57:59am

re: #86 GlutenFreeJesus

Evangelical groups have anti-Roe v Wade lawsuits ready to file the second Kavanaugh is confirmed.

The Circuit Courts are already ignoring Supreme Court precedent in anticipation of Kavanaugh’s confirmation, affirming state regulations designed to shut down clinics.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2018 • 5:59:40am

re: #68 Targetpractice

Wasn’t it Grassley yesterday who cited the ABA as one of the agencies that had looked into Kavanaugh and given him its “gold seal” or some such shit, thus “proving” that there was nothing to the allegations made against him?

The ABA looks at the candidate’s credentials and skill to be on the judiciary. It is not an endorsement per se. They’re a nonpartisan organization looking to basic competency.

The ABA has found several of Trump’s picks unqualified for the judiciary.

Here, they’re withdrawing their qualifications because they feel the claims should be fully investigated. They should.

Kavanaugh revealed himself to be a hyperpartisan hack who is a drunken lout. And the credible allegations of sexually assaulting Dr. Ford demand that investigators look into this before confirming.

But the GOP knows that their schedule is tight and that their chance to pack the court is running out. So they’re doing all they can to get Kavanaugh through regardless of what happened yesterday.

The fuckers don’t give a shit about sexual assault, rape victims, or women. They want the court balance shifted for the next generation, and they’ll even lose the Senate to do it - because they also know they can win that back, but once the Court rolls back civil and voting rights, guts worker/consumer/environmental protections, and overturns Roe/Griswold, there’s no going back.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:00:16am

re: #105 Big Beautiful Door

The Circuit Courts are already ignoring Supreme Court precedent in anticipation of Kavanaugh’s confirmation, affirming state regulations designed to shut down clinics.

As historically Catholic Ireland moved forward on this issue, we’re about to step back 45 years.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:01:17am

Earlier, David Rothkopf had a pretty long twitter thread going through the same sort of emotional anxiety attack that I’m pretty most of us, myself included, are kind of suffering from right now. He ended up compiling it together into a blog post(which explains the formatting): Flashback: Yesterday We Again Witnessed an Attempted Rape

It was not just that the entire Kavanaugh process has been corrupt from the outset. It was corrupted by the treatment of Merrick Garland. It was corrupted by the fact that K was clearly chosen because Trump felt he might protect him should his cases/crimes come before the court.

[…]

But it was not just all those things either that made yesterday so disturbing. Rather, it was that we were made to witness precisely the kind of crime the Senate the judge was accused of committing and the Senate was supposed to be investigating.

We were witnessing a kind of attempted rape. I am conscious that is strong language. The past few weeks, thanks to the courage of people like Dr. Christine Blasey Ford, have made us all acutely aware of the wide-spreading suffering of victims of sexual abuse in America.

Read it all, it’s pretty much an echo of my thoughts right now.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:01:47am
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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:04:21am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

As historically Catholic Ireland moved forward on this issue, we’re about to step back 45 years.

The only silver lining is that once all the abortion clinics across vast swaths of the country are closed, there should be an enormous backlash against the GOP among women voters, and you can’t really gerrymander districts so you only have white men in them.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:04:48am

re: #93 Patricia Kayden

Elections have consequences and for some reason Americans have decided to turn the entire Congress over to Republicans. We can expect much worse if Republicans maintain control after November.

Then we must see to it they don’t.

I mentioned earlier that Kavanaugh can be impeached. Granted, the votes aren’t there in the Senate to remove him. But - if he’s impeached by the HoR, I think it’s within the realm of possibility that the other SCOTUS Justices will go to him and insist he resign. An impeached SCOTUS Justice would be, for them, a nightmare……bad optics, as it were.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:05:36am

re: #110 Big Beautiful Door

The only silver lining is that once all the abortion clinics across vast swaths of the country are closed, there should be an enormous backlash against the GOP among women voters, and you can’t really gerrymander districts so you only have white men in them.

That is true. It’s just that a lot of women especially poor women will be hurt by this.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:07:45am

re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth

To some degree, I agree.

Mitchell spent time on before and after the attack. As much as it pains me to say, they should have had her walk through moment by moment. I think they pontificated more than questioned.

And I felt there were many lost opportunities when questioning him. Especially rebuffing his Clinton! Bork! whatever else bullshit. He should have been called to the carpet for that, and have him provide detailed explanations as to how he will be an impartial jurist for all America.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:08:46am

re: #111 Dr Lizardo

Then we must see to it they don’t.

I mentioned earlier that Kavanaugh can be impeached. Granted, the votes aren’t there in the Senate to remove him. But - if he’s impeached by the HoR, I think it’s within the realm of possibility that the other SCOTUS Justices will go to him and insist he resign. An impeached SCOTUS Justice would be, for them, a nightmare……bad optics, as it were.

re: #112 HappyWarrior

That is true. It’s just that a lot of women especially poor women will be hurt by this.

The question is how much they’ll actually be allowed to vote.

And don’t underestimate the power of tribal and cult indoctrination. We’ve seen the base, where women gladly dismiss sexual assault because ‘that’s what boys do’ and even celebrate it in their leaders because somehow, that makes them a ‘real man’.

Any hope for a great awakening is going to run headlong into the power of institutional fuckery, now backed by the stonewall of a conservative Supreme Court.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:12:07am

re: #91 Citizen K

The worst part is something I’ve mentioned before, where we’ve gone from feigned institutional ignorance to open institutional contempt. We’ve gone from behavior being shrugged off as ‘just the way it is, isn’t it?’ to ‘who cares if you got hurt, who cares if you know it’s wrong, we’re fucking you anyway’.

Before there was plausible deniability of certain things, before they were given sunlight. Now, shits out in the open, you have feminist movements, #MeToo, you have civil rights leading to BLM and all of it….and the powers that be, after ensuring they have all the levers, are standing in the face of it, and saying ‘we don’t care, we know it’s wrong, but we have all the fucking power so you simply don’t fucking matter’.

It’s purposeful, intentional erasure. It’s looking us straight in the eye and telling us ‘you are beneath us and that’s why we’ll win, forever.’ And it’s fucking working.

For years, they could pretend they weren’t doing it. Now that we’ve reached the #metoo era, they can no longer feign that. Now its “Oh, you’ve discovered our secret. You still can’t touch us.” It’s going to be up to people to make them pay.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:12:37am

re: #113 MsJ

To some degree, I agree.

Mitchell spent time on before and after the attack. As much as it pains me to say, they should have had her walk through moment by moment. I think they pontificated more than questioned.

And I felt there were many lost opportunities when questioning him. Especially rebuffing his Clinton! Bork! whatever else bullshit. He should have been called to the carpet for that, and have him provide detailed explanations as to how he will be an impartial jurist for all America.

Didn’t Grassley limit the questioning to only 5 minutes? But yeah I would have loved to seen him asked “Judge Kavanaugh, if you feel you are being wronged by a Democratic conspiracy here, how can we expect you to rule independently on matters involving the Democratic Party?” I did see Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut trying to get him to explain the baseball game in Boston where he got back at 4:45 the next morning and had to in his words put himself together or something like that and remember the night before and Kavanaugh just gave a vague story about how fun the game was.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:13:10am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

That is true. It’s just that a lot of women especially poor women will be hurt by this.

I know. I don’t want this to happen, but we can’t stop it. Only Collins and Murkowski can, and right now I don’t believe they will. Though we’ll know tomorrow, one way or another. Kavanaugh will either be confirmed, or the vote will be canceled.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:13:28am

re: #114 Citizen K

The question is how much they’ll actually be allowed to vote.

And don’t underestimate the power of tribal and cult indoctrination. We’ve seen the base, where women gladly dismiss sexual assault because ‘that’s what boys do’ and even celebrate it in their leaders because somehow, that makes them a ‘real man’.

Any hope for a great awakening is going to run headlong into the power of institutional fuckery, now backed by the stonewall of a conservative Supreme Court.

I don’t know. I think a lot of women are pissed by this but there are unfortunately enough of women who put their political tribe first and that’s how we got Trump.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:14:27am

re: #113 MsJ

To some degree, I agree.

Mitchell spent time on before and after the attack. As much as it pains me to say, they should have had her walk through moment by moment. I think they pontificated more than questioned.

And I felt there were many lost opportunities when questioning him. Especially rebuffing his Clinton! Bork! whatever else bullshit. He should have been called to the carpet for that, and have him provide detailed explanations as to how he will be an impartial jurist for all America.

Okay, this is all Monday morning quarterbacking, even if valid. The Dems were working in real time, in five-minute intervals, with little prep and no way to coordinate. I think they did pretty well.

It’s not as if anything they did could have changed anything.

Oh. Good morning.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:15:01am

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

I know. I don’t want this to happen, but we can’t stop it. Only Collins and Murkowski can, and right now I don’t believe they will. Though we’ll know tomorrow, one way or another. Kavanaugh will either be confirmed, or the vote will be canceled.

I’m just so frustrated by the whole thing. Kavanaugh, Trump, the whole mess. Countries are supposed to move forward not backward and now so much of what we, our parents, and grandparents worked so hard to obtain now hang in the balance and an angry partisan drunk judge is going to be the factor that determines where we go as I hit middle and eventually old age.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:17:00am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. I think a lot of women are pissed by this but there are unfortunately enough of women who put their political tribe first and that’s how we got Trump.

But there are going to be a whole lot of young women who usually don’t vote who will make it a point to do so. I really believe that when the GOP gets what it wants, all abortion clinics closed across the South and the West, that there will be a massive backlash as women wake up to having lost control of their own bodies as their rights are stripped away from them.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:17:26am

re: #117 Big Beautiful Door

I know. I don’t want this to happen, but we can’t stop it. Only Collins and Murkowski can, and right now I don’t believe they will. Though we’ll know tomorrow, one way or another. Kavanaugh will either be confirmed, or the vote will be canceled.

If GWB has to call moderate Repugs…

Also, Kavanaugh isn’t even supported by a majority of GOP women.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:17:58am

re: #118 HappyWarrior

I don’t know. I think a lot of women are pissed by this but there are unfortunately enough of women who put their political tribe first and that’s how we got Trump.

Oh, no doubt a lot of women are pissed. They should. But far too many of those women fall into ‘you don’t matter’ group, where their will, regardless of how loud they get, gets outweighed by a combination of media erasure and vote fuckery, so only the ones that are OK wit this kind of shit get heard and get their votes treated as valid.

It’s a total fucking fix at this point, barring a string of major political miracles.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:18:33am

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

But there are going to be a whole lot of young women who usually don’t vote who will make it a point to do so. I really believe that when the GOP gets what it wants, all abortion clinics closed across the South and the West, that there will be a massive backlash as women wake up to having lost control of their own bodies as their rights are stripped away from them.

I do think you could be right. The irony may be we may eventually end up with stronger legal abortion laws than we have right now.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:19:15am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Didn’t Grassley limit the questioning to only 5 minutes? But yeah I would have loved to seen him asked “Judge Kavanaugh, if you feel you are being wronged by a Democratic conspiracy here, how can we expect you to rule independently on matters involving the Democratic Party?” I did see Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut trying to get him to explain the baseball game in Boston where he got back at 4:45 the next morning and had to in his words put himself together or something like that and remember the night before and Kavanaugh just gave a vague story about how fun the game was.

I also think that many of the dems allowed kav to ramble on and deflect. He needed to be called to the carpet every single time he did that - and he was not.

Also, when he asked “HAVE YOU?” when questioned about being black out drunk, that should have been an opportunity to slam the fuck out of him.

I know this is all hindsight and monday morning quarterbacking, but I felt there were many lost opportunities.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:19:23am

re: #122 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

If GWB has to call moderate Repugs…

Also, Kavanaugh isn’t even supported by a majority of GOP women.

As long as you are supported by men namely white GOP men, you’re fine in this country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:20:10am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

And a drunkard Catholic boy will be the one that gives it to them. You couldn’t write this script.

I remember our priest getting up right after Roe v Wade was passed and demanding that the Catholic judge who voted in favor of it be excommunicated.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:20:34am

re: #125 MsJ

I also think that many of the dems allowed kav to ramble on and deflect. He needed to be called to the carpet every single time he did that - and he was not.

Also, when he asked “HAVE YOU?” when questioned about being black out drunk, that should have been an opportunity to slam the fuck out of him.

I know this is all hindsight and monday morning quarterbacking, but I felt there were many lost opportunities.

Well to be fair to them, they’ve never experienced a SCOTUS nominee like this. Gorsuch, Alito, and Roberts, all partisan in their ways aren’t vindictive assholes who would let their whole “revenge” plan out of the bag.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:20:37am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

I do think you could be right. The irony may be we may eventually end up with stronger legal abortion laws than we have right now.

Possibly but doubtful in my lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:21:56am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember our priest getting up right after Roe v Wade was passed and demanding that the Catholic judges who voted in favor of it be excommunicated.

Well that would have been only Justice Brennan, who is one of the most underappreciated SCOTUS members of the past 75 years in this SCOTUS amateur historian’s opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:23:10am

re: #129 MsJ

Possibly but doubtful in my lifetime.

Yeah down the road. I don’t know what to think about our country anymore. I’m actually looking at grad school now. The program I want to get my Masters in is from a Scottish university and it’s work I could do abroad.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:23:16am

re: #122 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

If GWB has to call moderate Repugs…

Also, Kavanaugh isn’t even supported by a majority of GOP women.

We will find out no later than tomorrow if that matters to Murkowski and Collins or not. We know it doesn’t to all the male GOP Senators.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:24:46am

re: #132 Big Beautiful Door

We will find out no later than tomorrow if that matters to Murkowski and Collins or not. We know it doesn’t to all the male GOP Senators.

I can see Murkowski voting against because her state’s governor is against him. Collins is a fucking complete waste of oxygen. She will vote the party line.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:25:36am

re: #132 Big Beautiful Door

We will find out no later than tomorrow if that matters to Murkowski and Collins or not. We know it doesn’t to all the male GOP Senators.

The deal is already rigged. Manchin will vote for and that will give them cover to vote against.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:26:05am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Well that would have been only Justice Brennan, who is one of the most underappreciated SCOTUS members of the past 75 years in this SCOTUS amateur historian’s opinion.

thanks for sorting me out on that, I did not recall the name of the judge(s), jut the priest’s outrage

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:26:07am

Gah, I almost feel like I have to post a trigger warning for these screenshots 🤢

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:26:33am

re: #129 MsJ

Possibly but doubtful in my lifetime.

It could happen a lot faster than you think, like as soon as 2021. Evil Empires can collapse like a house of cards; remember in 1989 the Soviet Union was still seen as a superpower on par with the US, then the Berlin Wall fell, and by 1992 it had been swept into the dustbin of history.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:27:27am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

As long as you are supported by men namely white GOP men, you’re fine in this country.

Right up until you decide to vote en masse.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:29:45am

re: #134 b.d.(true to form)

The deal is already rigged. Manchin will vote for and that will give them cover to vote against.

Any support for that? Because I think that would be a hard vote for Manchin to make with two GOP Senators voting against confirmation. It seems to me that Kavanaugh’s meltdown gives him perfect cover to justify voting against him.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:31:19am

re: #139 Big Beautiful Door

Any support for that? Because I think that would be a hard vote for Manchin to make with two GOP Senators voting against confirmation. It seems to me that Kavanaugh’s meltdown gives him perfect cover to justify voting against him.

Just my hunch and a walked back rumor about Manchin saying he was a yes.

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:31:51am
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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:32:23am

re: #141 b.d.(true to form)

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Shocked…shocked i say.

What a worthless POS.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:33:01am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

thanks for sorting me out on that, I did not recall the name of the judge(s), jut the priest’s outrage

No problem. I have his biography on my bookshelf.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:33:23am

re: #129 MsJ

Possibly but doubtful in my lifetime.

Abortion rules would go by state, so there’ll be a mix. Also, things like the Jane collective will probably revive, and the woman-controlled chemical abortion movement among midwives will keep growing. I suspect getting convictions for illegal abortions will be difficult in most places, too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:33:48am

re: #141 b.d.(true to form)

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You can always count on Flake to back the party line.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:35:06am

Guys, help me out here, trying to rebuke a point that the Dems got rid of the 60 vote requirement for federal judges including SCOTUS. I know that Thomas was confirmed by a simple majority as was Alito.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:35:51am

re: #141 b.d.(true to form)

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Like I said the other day, a hearing was simply a formality to give Flake and Corker cover to get to “yes.”

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:39:13am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

You can always count on Flake to back the party line.

Flake was an original whack job from long ago. he only seemed to be sensible and that was in word only. He has always voted with Republicans.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:39:37am

Okay a little Google Fu reveeals that yes Reid did get rid of it but it was for federal circuit judges not SCOTUS and I know that Thomas was confirmed 52-48.

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jeffreyw  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:39:48am

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Good morning!

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:42:04am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Guys, help me out here, trying to rebuke a point that the Dems got rid of the 60 vote requirement for federal judges including SCOTUS. I know that Thomas was confirmed by a simple majority as was Alito.

60 votes is just for cloture. The actual vote is just a majority. Dems got rid of the 60 vote cloture requirement for everything but SCOTUS because McConnell was blocking all votes on judges. They left it for SCOTUS. As Chris Murphy said, though, considering McConnell blocked Garland, he would have wiped all those restrictions when he took power.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:43:44am

Anyone still have anything good to say about Flakey Jeff The Master Bullshitter?

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:45:06am

The entirety of this has been a masterclass of performative cruelty. That’s all I have left to say at this point.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:45:06am

re: #148 MsJ

Flake was an original whack job from long ago. he only seemed to be sensible and that was in word only. He has always voted with Republicans.

Even if it makes no difference in the end, at least make it as painful as possible for the cowardly, spaghetti-spined schmuck.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:45:57am

When it boils down to it the never trumpers are the same as the rest of the gop. Worse even as they pretend to possess integrity.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:48:53am

re: #141 b.d.(true to form)

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I never thought he would vote any other way. Flake may not like Trump, but he’s a hard core conservative.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:49:04am

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

But there are going to be a whole lot of young women who usually don’t vote who will make it a point to do so. I really believe that when the GOP gets what it wants, all abortion clinics closed across the South and the West, that there will be a massive backlash as women wake up to having lost control of their own bodies as their rights are stripped away from them.

what will make an even larger impact on those young women is not so much closing all of the abortion clinics, it will be the shuttering of PP for basic women’s health, loss of access to affordable and effective birth control, and availability of pre-natal care.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:49:20am

re: #155 Amory Blaine

When it boils down to it the never trumpers are the same as the rest of the gop. Worse even as they pretend to possess integrity.

It’s pretty obviuos there are no never-Trumper GOP members in Congress.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:49:36am

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Anyone still have anything good to say about Flakey Jeff The Master Bullshitter?

Nada. The whole image of “Jeff Flake, the Independent Thinker” died everywhere but in the minds of the “liberal press” months ago.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:49:59am

re: #141 b.d.(true to form)

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There is no era in which Kavanaugh would have received 90+ votes for a SCOTUS position, because it is only in this era would such an obvious political operative/partisan hack ever be nominated.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:50:23am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

Guys, help me out here, trying to rebuke a point that the Dems got rid of the 60 vote requirement for federal judges including SCOTUS. I know that Thomas was confirmed by a simple majority as was Alito.

No, the Dems kept it for SCOTUS. The GOP ended it for SCOTUS last year to get Gorsuch confirmed.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:50:50am

Flake voting yes. Fuck him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:50:53am

re: #144 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Abortion rules would go by state, so there’ll be a mix. Also, things like the Jane collective will probably revive, and the woman-controlled chemical abortion movement among midwives will keep growing. I suspect getting convictions for illegal abortions will be difficult in most places, too.

I’m sure California, to name one, would be the same, but I can speak to Washington. We didn’t need Roe vs. Wade; we legalized abortion by popular vote in 1970, and voted down one or two ballot initiatives to repeal that. “Mr Kavanaugh has made his decision, now let him enforce it.”

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Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:51:28am

Fly on the wall.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:51:30am

re: #151 Belafon

60 votes is just for cloture. The actual vote is just a majority. Dems got rid of the 60 vote cloture requirement for everything but SCOTUS because McConnell was blocking all votes on judges. They left it for SCOTUS. As Chris Murphy said, though, considering McConnell blocked Garland, he would have wiped all those restrictions when he took power.

Yeah it was cloture as I thought. Big difference. Sigh the guy pushing this crap is a friend of a friend whose heart is in the right place on a lot of issues but has an awful tendency to blame the Dems too damn much.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:51:40am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Okay a little Google Fu reveeals that yes Reid did get rid of it but it was for federal circuit judges not SCOTUS and I know that Thomas was confirmed 52-48.

That was a different era when even if you were ultimately going to vote No, you would eventually vote for cloture to allow it to go to a final vote.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:51:52am

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

No, the Dems kept it for SCOTUS. The GOP ended it for SCOTUS last year to get Gorsuch confirmed.

That’s exactly what the article I found said too and as Bela just said, cloture.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:53:03am

re: #148 MsJ

Flake was an original whack job from long ago. he only seemed to be sensible and that was in word only. He has always voted with Republicans.

That was my point. He had a couple exceptions but he’s mostly been a dyed in the wool right wing tool.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:53:48am

re: #155 Amory Blaine

When it boils down to it the never trumpers are the same as the rest of the gop. Worse even as they pretend to possess integrity.

You pretty much described why I hate Ben Sasse acting like he’s this voice of conscience.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:54:00am

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

what will make an even larger impact on those young women is not so much closing all of the abortion clinics, it will be the shuttering of PP for basic women’s health, loss of access to affordable and effective birth control, and availability of pre-natal care.

And its going to happen fast. Bevin will want to close Kentucky’s last abortion clinic to fire up his base next year.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:54:19am

re: #70 Belafon

Remember her vast right wing conspiracy comment back during Bill’s tenure and how they reacted.

You mean the vast right wing conspiracy that was on full display yesterday?

I saw that bit about the American Bar Association. That is one of the first things Ohio Senator Rob Portman mentions in his love for his Brett.

So of course, I had to fire off another comment pointing that out to Rob first thing this morning.

I have a feeling there are probably some local protesters already down on Broad and Front downtown Columbus at Portman’s local office. They are down there a lot, so today will probably be a sure thing.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:54:25am

Are Dems walking out?

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:56:20am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Yeah it was cloture as I thought. Big difference. Sigh the guy pushing this crap is a friend of a friend whose heart is in the right place on a lot of issues but has an awful tendency to blame the Dems too damn much.

Is your friend blaming Democrats for this? If so, ask him this: Why did Reid end the 60 vote threshold for judicial nominees? The answer is that McConnell was blocking all nominees so he could pack the courts if Republicans won, and keep them depleted if they didn’t. The biggest tell for that is that Democrats also kept the blue-slip rule and McConnell tossed that when Trump got in office.

McConnell blocked all votes he could get away with, including budgets, during Obama’s time. This is all his doing.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:58:04am

re: #165 HappyWarrior

Yeah it was cloture as I thought. Big difference. Sigh the guy pushing this crap is a friend of a friend whose heart is in the right place on a lot of issues but has an awful tendency to blame the Dems too damn much.

And….this is why I have such dim hopes for NOvember as is. No matter what the GOP does and does openly, the fault always seems to land in the laps of Dems, either for ‘not doing enough’ or ‘because they’re Republican lite’. GOP can be wrong, but Dems are always treated as wrong, no matter fucking what.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:58:26am

re: #156 Big Beautiful Door

I never thought he would vote any other way. Flake may not like Trump, but he’s a hard core conservative wing nut.

FIFY

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:58:33am

“It’s about the evidence…which we never had an intent to gather or listen to, but if we say it enough times we can make it seem as though this isn’t a blatant con job.”

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2018 • 6:59:28am
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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:00:51am

At the end of the day, this is a SCOTUS seat and the only opportunity to put a far-right judge in it. If they drop Kavanaugh, they’d be hard-pressed to put Barrett or whoever Trump nominated in it before the lame duck session expired. So they’re going to bite the bullet, confirm Kavanaugh, and then presume that their base being orgasmic over “owning the libs” will be enough to save them from total doom in November.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:02:02am

re: #110 Big Beautiful Door

The only silver lining is that once all the abortion clinics across vast swaths of the country are closed, there should be an enormous backlash against the GOP among women voters, and you can’t really gerrymander districts so you only have white men in them.

In the lyrics of one Joni Mitchell…

No no no
Don’t it always seem to go,
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Til its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:02:49am

re: #173 Belafon

Is your friend blaming Democrats for this? If so, ask him this: Why did Reid end the 60 vote threshold for judicial nominees? The answer is that McConnell was blocking all nominees so he could pack the courts if Republicans one, and keep them depleted if they didn’t. The biggest tell for that is that Democrats also kept the blue-slip rule and McConnell tossed that when Trump got in office.

McConnell blocked all votes he could get away with, including budgets, during Obama’s time. This is all his doing.

I am. Haven’t gotten a bite yet. I also pointed my thoughts on Kavanaugh, Bork, and Garland. I’m trying to get a bite of the few conservatives I know doing that so they can see in plain English how Bork wasn’t wronged by Garland was and that the innocent until proven guilty shit is wrong to use here. I’m hoping I might get taken a little more seriously since although I’m partisan, people know I try to fact check my stuff and I work in the legal field as you know.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:03:02am
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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:06:47am

re: #113 MsJ

To some degree, I agree.

Mitchell spent time on before and after the attack. As much as it pains me to say, they should have had her walk through moment by moment. I think they pontificated more than questioned.

And I felt there were many lost opportunities when questioning him. Especially rebuffing his Clinton! Bork! whatever else bullshit. He should have been called to the carpet for that, and have him provide detailed explanations as to how he will be an impartial jurist for all America.

He would never have answered any of that. His whole goal yesterday was to take the first question and then run on eating up the rest of the time to the point he kept talking, repeating, crying and shouting when they asked other questions. And then he would stop, stare and stonewall it.

He was prepped to do that from the Trump gang. This morning The Big Fucking Don is strutting around I bet, telling everyone that is how you do it…always listen to me, me, me!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:06:54am

This is what I posted. I’m so fed up with this shit.
A point of conversation about Robert Bork and Merrick Garland. Robert Bork received a hearing, a committee vote, and even a floor vote after he was rejected by the Senate Judiciary Committee. He was rejected. The Constitution gives the Senate the ability to weigh in on judicial nominations. It was the very principle of Separation of Powers of why there was no Justice Bork. Garland? Meanwhile, he didn’t get a hearing let alone a floor vote. And to make things worse, Judge Garland was named by many Republican Senators as someone they would be amiable to if Obama selected him. The only “mistake” Obama made with Garland in the process is that Garland happened to be replacing Scalia. McConnell’s no election year SCOTUS appointments was a big fat lie and in fact, in our first seriously contested presidential election 1800, President Adams appointed John Marshall, the most influential Chief Justice after he had lost to Thomas Jefferson. My beliefs are known if you know me but I am simply trying to point out that Kavanaugh had no room to complain about how Bork was treated when Garland’s nomination process was far worse. Oh and if any of us acted like an asshole like he did yesterday, we wouldn’t get the job we interviewed for. It’s not a trial, innocent until proven guilty doesn’t apply here. And frankly, I thought he was too partisan for the job before yesterday. You all really think a man can rule impartially who pretty much vowed “What goes around comes around?”

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:07:48am
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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:08:29am

This is an exceptional portrait. Either that, or Hamill is doing a Jedi mind thing on me.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:08:50am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I’m just so frustrated by the whole thing. Kavanaugh, Trump, the whole mess. Countries are supposed to move forward not backward and now so much of what we, our parents, and grandparents worked so hard to obtain now hang in the balance and an angry partisan drunk judge is going to be the factor that determines where we go as I hit middle and eventually old age.

And frustrating someone like you and at your age is exactly what they want Happy. They want the younger voters to give up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:09:14am
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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:10:11am

re: #121 Big Beautiful Door

But there are going to be a whole lot of young women who usually don’t vote who will make it a point to do so. I really believe that when the GOP gets what it wants, all abortion clinics closed across the South and the West, that there will be a massive backlash as women wake up to having lost control of their own bodies as their rights are stripped away from them.

I see a subtle distinction
A woman’s bodily autonomy is a natural right.
It can’t be stripped

It will be suppressed by the ‘state’

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:11:32am

MSNBC has a split screen with Grassley and Kamela Harris with Blumenthal and Hirono. GAssley is stuttering on while the Dems are in the hallway raising holy hell, but without audio. I hope we get to hear it soon.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:12:24am

re: #125 MsJ

I also think that many of the dems allowed kav to ramble on and deflect. He needed to be called to the carpet every single time he did that - and he was not.

Also, when he asked “HAVE YOU?” when questioned about being black out drunk, that should have been an opportunity to slam the fuck out of him.

I know this is all hindsight and monday morning quarterbacking, but I felt there were many lost opportunities.

Can you stonewall and out talk anyone for 3 minutes? Can you glare for 30 seconds?

That is all it took. The rest of the time was lost in repeating the questions, Grassley weighing in and frustration.

Look how he blew off Kamala Harris. She kept trying to reign him in. She is a great questioner…but she was made ineffective.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:13:06am

Now they’re also showing protesters getting arrested and walked away. this is amazing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:13:47am

Orrin Hatch…blech

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:14:52am

re: #186 ObserverArt

And frustrating someone like you and at your age is exactly what they want Happy. They want the younger voters to give up.

They do. I’m just so sickened by the whole thing. I’m not going to stop voting or volunteering.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:15:49am

Meanwhile, over in my hemisphere, this happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:16:16am

Hatch is making a mess of his remarks

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:17:04am

re: #156 Big Beautiful Door

I never thought he would vote any other way. Flake may not like Trump, but he’s a hard core conservative asshole.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:17:06am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:17:24am

This probably sounds a bit corny right now, but every Democrat should be required to watch The Martian. We’re going to have setbacks, some a lot worse than others. If we give in, it’s over. We have to deal with where we are, figure out our next plan - the midterms, obviously - and act on that. Now the story required a happy ending, which we’re not required, but the basic premise that you have to just keep dealing with the problems as they come along, or else, remains.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:18:21am

re: #194 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, over in my hemisphere, this happened.

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wow

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:19:09am

Leahy telling hard truth

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:19:33am

re: #197 Interesting Times

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The GOP made that clear yesterday when they said (in so many words) that if you don’t have the evidence to secure a conviction, don’t bother coming forward. That the job of the authorities is not to investigate, to ask questions and dig around for evidence, but simply to write reports.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:20:13am

re: #190 ObserverArt

Can you stonewall and out talk anyone for 3 minutes? Can you glare for 30 seconds?

That is all it took. The rest of the time was lost in repeating the questions, Grassley weighing in and frustration.

Look how he blew off Kamala Harris. She kept trying to reign him in. She is a great questioner…but she was made ineffective.

Because Democrats have no power right now. The Dems on the Judiciary did extraordinary given what they are able to do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:20:53am

Leahy mentions Merrick Garland

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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:20:56am

re: #197 Interesting Times

He is so fucking pathetic.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:22:22am

re: #184 MsJ

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Never put Jeff Flake and any form of the word honest in any sentence.

And that goes for any other Republican too.

They do not know honesty. They run from it.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:23:10am

re: #203 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leahy mentions Merrick Garland

A name that has probably received 1/10th the mentions in the media that Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas has. And only when it’s time to accuse the DNC of cooking up a delay as an act of “revenge.”

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:23:34am

The GOP is making a Faustian bargain by pushing this nomination through.

Kavanaugh is flawed. Fatally flawed. His confirmation makes none of this go away, and there is still no statute of limitations on the charges he faces in Maryland.

Even Republican women are repulsed by the way Graham and others are treating Dr. Ford in the wake of her testimony. Fox had to fire a dude for calling his accusers ‘lying skanks’ yesterday.

Women are not going to forget this in 40 days.

And there are two other accusers who never got their day in court. Ms. Ramirez and Ms. Swetnick will be heard, one way or the other. Swetnick in particular apparently has at least one corroborating witness, and extremely media-savvy representation. Her charges will likely be aired in the media, since that appears to be the only avenue left. But wall-to-wall coverage of Swetnick’s allegations (most likely on the day before the vote, judging from Avenatti’s timing on announcing the allegations) will only further illustrate just how flawed Kavanaugh is.

The Republicans dancing in the end zone and rushing through an obviously flawed candidate will not disappear. People saw who he was on national TV. People saw the rabid defense of his nomination by men who did not have the guts to confront a credible witness.

None of this is going away. And midterms are some 40 days away.

Republicans weighed the optics of rushing to confirm a judge who is completely unsuited for the job against the electoral backlash that is coming, and decided they’d go for broke. But where they may have fatally miscalculated is that they weighed only those two factors.

I just watched the video of those women confronting Flake in the elevator. That is what they did not consider in their calculation. That will be their undoing in November.

They avoided slitting their own wrists by slashing their own throat instead. They deserve what is coming. All of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:24:00am

“They don’t want to hear women…” —Sen Leahy

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:24:18am

re: #205 ObserverArt

Never put Jeff Flake and any form of the word honest in any sentence.

And that goes for any other Republican too.

They do not know honesty. They run from it.

Honesty is a liability. Shame is a weakness. Empathy is a sin.

All are simply obstacles to getting and preserving power, and that’s all that matters: winning power for the sake of trampling the weak and undeserving. That’s what the GOP stands for, and that’s what the country seems to adore about them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:25:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:25:40am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:25:47am

What is happening?!? I’m sitting in a school waiting for a meeting.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:26:41am

re: #204 KGxvi

He is so fucking pathetic.

Contemptibly weak and gutless little shit. Couldn’t even look those women in the eye, couldn’t even answer the “do you believe he’s telling the truth” question!

And I’ll stop here because I don’t want to jeopardize my LGF account.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:27:05am

re: #212 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

What is happening?!? I’m sitting in a school waiting for a meeting.

Leahy speaking right now and he is angry

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:27:07am

re: #197 Interesting Times

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He’s a coward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:27:16am
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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:27:52am

re: #212 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

What is happening?!? I’m sitting in a school waiting for a meeting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:28:27am

Leahy is bringing up a lot more than high school in calling Kavanaugh a liar.
Yes, he said LIAR.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:29:12am

re: #198 Belafon

This probably sounds a bit corny right now, but every Democrat should be required to watch The Martian. We’re going to have setbacks, some a lot worse than others. If we give in, it’s over. We have to deal with where we are, figure out our next plan - the midterms, obviously - and act on that. Now the story required a happy ending, which we’re not required, but the basic premise that you have to just keep dealing with the problems as they come along, or else, remains.

I’d like to agree
But he was trained and somewhat prepared for adversity and the unexpected

We have to get people engaged and keep them enthusiastic becsuse civics is complicated and confusing and takes *work*

While reality TV and easy meme tweet answers….arent

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:30:53am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

“They don’t want to hear women…” —Sen Leahy

They’ll reject that as rank hypocrisy. They actually, sincerely believe that you can’t be concerned about the rights of women if you’re not a woman, that you can’t be concerned about the rights of PoC if you’re not a PoC, that you can’t be concerned about the rights of _____ if you’re not a ____. If you claim to be, you’re just pretending for partisan reasons. They honestly believe this on the most basic level—it’s the foundation of their philosophy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:31:55am

I don’t think I have ever seen Leahy this angry

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:32:07am

I (tried to) email my Senators last night. One didn’t work, but since this is CA, it was strictly pro forma anyway.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:32:21am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:32:40am

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The hearing was a performance piece, a bit of Kabuki theater to give the fence-sitters cover to vote for the man. They were never “concerned,” “torn,” “dismayed,” or any of the litany of terms they’ve used to string people along into believing they could be influenced away from a “yes” vote. The ending was never in doubt, they were going to dub it a “He said/she said” situation, and fall on the side of the asshole who dropped the mask long enough to assure his boss that he’s the bastard he wants in that seat.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:33:36am

re: #207 makeitstop

The GOP is making a Faustian bargain by pushing this nomination through.

Kavanaugh is flawed. Fatally flawed. His confirmation makes none of this go away, and there is still no statute of limitations on the charges he faces in Maryland.

Even Republican women are repulsed by the way Graham and others are treating Dr. Ford in the wake of her testimony. Fox had to fire a dude for calling his accusers ‘lying skanks’ yesterday.

Women are not going to forget this in 40 days.

And there are two other accusers who never got their day in court. Ms. Ramirez and Ms. Swetnick will be heard, one way or the other. Swetnick in particular apparently has at least one corroborating witness, and extremely media-savvy representation. Her charges will likely be aired in the media, since that appears to be the only avenue left. But wall-to-wall coverage of Swetnick’s allegations (most likely on the day before the vote, judging from Avenatti’s timing on announcing the allegations) will only further illustrate just how flawed Kavanaugh is.

The Republicans dancing in the end zone and rushing through an obviously flawed candidate will not disappear. People saw who he was on national TV. People saw the rabid defense of his nomination by men who did not have the guts to confront a credible witness.

None of this is going away. And midterms are some 40 days away.

Republicans weighed the optics of rushing to confirm a judge who is completely unsuited for the job against the electoral backlash that is coming, and decided they’d go for broke. But where they may have fatally miscalculated is that they weighed only those two factors.

I just watched the video of those women confronting Flake in the elevator. That is what they did not consider in their calculation. That will be their undoing in November.

They avoided slitting their own wrists by slashing their own throat instead. They deserve what is coming. All of it.

Many upvotes
Well summarized
Well spoken

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Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:33:53am

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:34:06am

re: #220 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’ll reject that as rank hypocrisy. They actually, sincerely believe that you can’t be concerned about the rights of women if you’re not a woman, that you can’t be concerned about the rights of PoC if you’re not a PoC, that you can’t be concerned about the rights of _____ if you’re not a ____. If you claim to be, you’re just pretending for partisan reasons. They honestly believe this on the most basic level—it’s the foundation of their philosophy.

And then you’re engaged in “identity politics” when you are a member of that group, when you should really be doing what any sensible person should: Deferring to the wishes of the white guys because they assure themselves that “racism is dead.”

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:34:27am

re: #226 Dave In Austin

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:34:36am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Leahy is bringing up a lot more than high school in calling Kavanaugh a liar.
Yes, he said LIAR.

Since we like to invoke Fargo, I give you Bucky the irate customer in Jerry’s car dealership. You’re a bald faced liar, Mr. Lundegaard Kavanaugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:34:36am

Lindsey being all aw shucks now.

*spit*

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Dave In Austin  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:34:49am

Fuck off Lindsey. You get the mute button like your master.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:35:02am

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:35:14am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey being all aw shucks now.

*spit*

He can be understood even with Donny’s cock in his mouth?

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:35:40am

re: #207 makeitstop

The GOP is making a Faustian bargain by pushing this nomination through.

I’m worried that we’re fast approaching them thinking “Do what you must, because we have already won” territory (that is, packing the courts means they can either prevent Dem electoral victories, or completely ignore them when they happen).

So it’s important to have short, medium, and long-term plans for the worst-case scenario.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:35:48am

re: #233 Targetpractice

He can be understood even with Donny’s cock in his mouth?

That’s Donny and Kavanaugh’s.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:36:29am

re: #233 Targetpractice

He can be understood even with Donny’s cock in his mouth?

With his accent, how could you tell?

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:37:16am

re: #194 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, over in my hemisphere, this happened.

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Your comment reminds me.

About 6:00 AM Wednesday morning a quick storm came up and the wind and rain was incredible. It lasted about 15 minutes.

A bit later that morning, I texted my one client about not being able to meet her because my one other client needed me in an emergency and that my plans for the day were changed.

She texted me back saying she understood her plans had changed too. Then she attached some images of her old warehouse building that is on East Main Street about 2 and-a-half blocks from my house.

It was an old car dealership with the big front windows in the having been boarded up with a decorative tile/brick attached to the facade.

The images showed the whole window/wall lying on the sidewalk with tree limbs and other debris covering the sidewalk out front.

What the hell happened???

An EF-1 tornado is what happened. There were no warning sirens, no weather predictions other than heavy rain and some wind.

I swear from what I can tell that tornado started somewhere right around my clients building. It ran from The Old Town East area (her building and my area) northeast to Broad and James Road which is about 4 miles.

I missed it by > < that much. Phew!

With the hearings yesterday, I forgot to mention how close I was to it.

Local news on the storm…

Iframe

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:37:59am

re: #224 Targetpractice

The hearing was a performance piece, a bit of Kabuki theater to give the fence-sitters cover to vote for the man. They were never “concerned,” “torn,” “dismayed,” or any of the litany of terms they’ve used to string people along into believing they could be influenced away from a “yes” vote. The ending was never in doubt, they were going to dub it a “He said/she said” situation, and fall on the side of the asshole who dropped the mask long enough to assure his boss that he’s the bastard he wants in that seat.

And this exactly

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:39:51am

Maybe the revolutionaries aren’t necessarily wrong but it’s really not a class revolution that we need. It’s a revolution in how we treat people.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:44:08am

Liberals are depending on people who never vote, to GOTV for the midterms and do the right thing.

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mmmirele  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:44:28am

Remember this: even if Roe v Wade is overturned, women will still get abortions. It is up to us to do what we can.

Like these women teaching each other how to do early abortions.

story.californiasunday.com

Be prepared.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:44:36am

And the use of the language of the abusive man continues, as they all say they feel sorry for what Dr. Ford experienced, but they don’t feel her story compelling enough to look into beyond some perfunctory questions before dismissing it as unsubstantiated. They want to keep telling her she’s the victim of the people who tried to help her, that if she’d just come to them instead, they would have made sure this never became public so she wouldn’t have suffered.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:44:39am

Lindsey is very thinly hiding accusations that Dr Ford’s lawyers were behind leaking the letter and other malfeasance.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:45:11am

re: #207 makeitstop

The GOP is making a Faustian bargain by pushing this nomination through.

Kavanaugh is flawed. Fatally flawed. His confirmation makes none of this go away, and there is still no statute of limitations on the charges he faces in Maryland.

Even Republican women are repulsed by the way Graham and others are treating Dr. Ford in the wake of her testimony. Fox had to fire a dude for calling his accusers ‘lying skanks’ yesterday.

Women are not going to forget this in 40 days.

And there are two other accusers who never got their day in court. Ms. Ramirez and Ms. Swetnick will be heard, one way or the other. Swetnick in particular apparently has at least one corroborating witness, and extremely media-savvy representation. Her charges will likely be aired in the media, since that appears to be the only avenue left. But wall-to-wall coverage of Swetnick’s allegations (most likely on the day before the vote, judging from Avenatti’s timing on announcing the allegations) will only further illustrate just how flawed Kavanaugh is.

The Republicans dancing in the end zone and rushing through an obviously flawed candidate will not disappear. People saw who he was on national TV. People saw the rabid defense of his nomination by men who did not have the guts to confront a credible witness.

None of this is going away. And midterms are some 40 days away.

Republicans weighed the optics of rushing to confirm a judge who is completely unsuited for the job against the electoral backlash that is coming, and decided they’d go for broke. But where they may have fatally miscalculated is that they weighed only those two factors.

I just watched the video of those women confronting Flake in the elevator. That is what they did not consider in their calculation. That will be their undoing in November.

They avoided slitting their own wrists by slashing their own throat instead. They deserve what is coming. All of it.

I got an email from one of my brothers. He is 72 now and was always a moderate thinking conservative. He was totally outraged by Graham and is worried about the country that is being left to his grand kids.

I never heard anything like that from him. I was stunned.

He did vote for Obama the second term and thought he was a fine president. He always admired how classy and well spoken Barack was.

The Trump Time has changed him. He’s almost radical now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:45:31am

As you guys know, I’m a genealogy buff and I just think about my own ancestors who left their homes. What made them decide that this was it, the point where they’d leave home and never return? Like I know the broader facts of poverty, not having autonomy, the Potato Famine, etc but what makes a man or woman leave what’s been home for generations of their family and decides to start anew. This isn’t an “I’m moving” rant but more of wondering what it took. We are Americans, yes but just as longer we were something else too.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:46:06am

re: #240 Amory Blaine

Liberals are depending on people who never vote, to GOTV for the midterms and do the right thing.

Liberals are hoping that people have discovered that sitting on the sidelines will cost you. Since we’re a democracy, voting is what changes most things. Voting means power.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:46:44am

re: #242 Targetpractice

And the use of the language of the abusive man continues, as they all say they feel sorry for what Dr. Ford experienced, but they don’t feel her story compelling enough to look into beyond some perfunctory questions before dismissing it as unsubstantiated. They want to keep telling her she’s the victim of the people who tried to help her, that if she’d just come to them instead, they would have made sure this never became public so she wouldn’t have suffered.

What those assholes don’t know is she already suffered. Its such a pathetic ploy to try to suggest that women like first Rep. Eshoo and then Sen. Feinstein are the real guilty parties here and not Kavanaugh.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:46:49am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey is very thinly hiding accusations that Dr Ford’s lawyers were behind leaking the letter and other malfeasance.

He’s doing that only because she thanked Feinstein yesterday for betraying her confidence in keeping the matter confidential. Otherwise he’d still be up there, accusing DiFi of being the one who leaked the story to the press.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:47:08am

From the drive time DJs to the water cooler at work, the consesus I hear is that Ford is a liar and the dems lost.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:47:14am

re: #213 Interesting Times

Contemptibly weak and gutless little shit. Couldn’t even look those women in the eye, couldn’t even answer the “do you believe he’s telling the truth” question!

And I’ll stop here because I don’t want to jeopardize my LGF account.

I hope he watches himself cower in an elevator trying to disappear in the area where the floor selectors are.

I hope Jeff Flake sees how much a wimp he was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:47:17am

Lindsey is threatening what he’s going to do when he takes over the committee chairmanship next year.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:48:16am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey is threatening what he’s going to do when he takes over the committee chairmanship next year.

Yeah? Well Lindsay, you’re going to be a ranking member after this and for a very long time.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:48:39am

re: #249 Amory Blaine

From the drive time DJs to the water cooler at work, the consesus I hear is that Ford is a liar and the dems lost.

Oh, I’m sure they didn’t say “she’s a liar” aloud, but instead kept to the talking point that she can’t prove anything herself, so they can’t just go on her recollection.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:49:03am

re: #244 ObserverArt

I got an email from one of my brothers. He is 72 now and was always a moderate thinking conservative. He was totally outraged by Graham and is worried about the country that is being left to his grand kids.

I never heard anything like that from him. I was stunned.

He did vote for Obama the second term and thought he was a fine president. He always admired how classy and well spoken Barack was.

The Trump Time has changed him. He’s almost radical now.

You’re like me right? Two brothers? You’ve mentioned another brother who is more wingnutty. Good for your brother here. We need men and women like him to turn the tide.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:49:50am
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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:50:55am

re: #249 Amory Blaine

From the drive time DJs to the water cooler at work, the consesus I hear is that Ford is a liar and the dems lost.

Because of course.

The reality is that the country is infinitely more racist and more sexist than we want to admit. That we really are a fucking hopeless country and that the pathologies are simply coming out all the more because the GOP keeps proving that there’s no actual penalty for it. That the American psyche, in fact, revels in this cruelty and that they will never, ever pay for it. That believing in the better angels of our fellow Americans is a fucking fools errand.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:52:44am

re: #237 ObserverArt

Thank goodness you are ok!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:53:11am

re: #256 Citizen K

Because of course.

The reality is that the country is infinitely more racist and more sexist than we want to admit. That we really are a fucking hopeless country and that the pathologies are simply coming out all the more because the GOP keeps proving that there’s no actual penalty for it. That the American psyche, in fact, revels in this cruelty and that they will never, ever pay for it. That believing in the better angels of our fellow Americans is a fucking fools errand.

You are way too pessimistic. I think they are going to pay heavily in November. But time will tell.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:53:35am

re: #255 MsJ

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They expected it to be a contrast between the hysterical woman seething with rage who couldn’t give a straight answer versus the calm and collected judge who withstood Dem ire with dignity while answering every question clearly.

Instead they got the calm and collected doctor who knows what the hell she’s talking about versus the angry and cagey little prick who couldn’t give a straight answer. So they changed gears without a clutch, ditching the prosecutor who was starting to hit paydirt and exchanging her for hysterics and playing to the cheap seats.

To say it made the entire thing a farce would be to deny it was one from the beginning.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:53:40am

re: #242 Targetpractice

And the use of the language of the abusive man continues, as they all say they feel sorry for what Dr. Ford experienced, but they don’t feel her story compelling enough to look into beyond some perfunctory questions before dismissing it as unsubstantiated. They want to keep telling her she’s the victim of the people who tried to help her, that if she’d just come to them instead, they would have made sure this never became public so she wouldn’t have suffered.

i know this was all for show
nevertheless, i am past the point where any of this matters because three things have happened:
- a credible claim/accusation was made
- it was determined to be serious and substantial
- kavanaugh demonstrated his judicial temperament quite effectively

for me the first two are more than sufficient to end a nominee (rightly or wrongly) because i care about the court’s reputation, and image and institutionality (regardless of how it rules specifically)
with the third in full view, lets not pretend this is anything other than:
“we’re putting him on the court because we can and you can’t stop it”

there is nothing more to it

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:54:06am

re: #258 Big Beautiful Door

You are way too pessimistic. I think they are going to pay heavily in November. But time will tell.

I have to agree with this. We can’t take success in November for granted but I do think this is going to be a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP .

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:54:08am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lindsey is very thinly hiding accusations that Dr Ford’s lawyers were behind leaking the letter and other malfeasance.

doesnt make the claim any less true

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:54:27am

re: #254 HappyWarrior

You’re like me right? Two brothers? You’ve mentioned another brother who is more wingnutty. Good for your brother here. We need men and women like him to turn the tide.

Three brothers all older than me. One is in bad shape with Parkinson’s in an advanced stage. He is out in Arizona.

Sigh.

Well, I have to get busy…but truthfully…I am not feeling it today.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:55:11am

re: #263 ObserverArt

Three brothers all older than me. One is in bad shape with Parkinson’s in an advanced stage. He is out in Arizona.

Sigh.

Well, I have to get busy…but truthfully…I am not feeling it today.

Ahhh okay then you are like my Dad then who also has three older brothers. Take it easy. Sorry your brother out in AZ isn’t doing well. It’s been a really really surreal past day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:55:36am

Durbin reading the ABA’s letter to the committee that the vote should be delayed until the FBI investigates the allegations.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:56:20am

re: #258 Big Beautiful Door

You are way too pessimistic. I think they are going to pay heavily in November. But time will tell.

And they’re depending upon that pessimism taking hold.

They want us to give up. Never forget that.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:56:27am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

Durbin reading the ABA’s letter to the committee that the vote should be delayed until the FBI investigates the allegations.

Bows and arrows against the lightning.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:56:43am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

As you guys know, I’m a genealogy buff and I just think about my own ancestors who left their homes. What made them decide that this was it, the point where they’d leave home and never return? Like I know the broader facts of poverty, not having autonomy, the Potato Famine, etc but what makes a man or woman leave what’s been home for generations of their family and decides to start anew. This isn’t an “I’m moving” rant but more of wondering what it took. We are Americans, yes but just as longer we were something else too.

this is the first time in my life i am embarrassed to be an american
its the first time i can see myself living somewhere else ‘better’ and being happier, calmer, content and at ease
if i wasnt married and didnt have family and obligations, i’d seriously consider going
(and i dont mean flake, collins, murkowski ‘seriously’)

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:56:55am

re: #260 dangerman

This was the act of men who know that if they let us win even a little, their reign of terror will be over. The need us to not only lose, but to believe that we can never win, because once that happens, white men just become another category in America, and they’re not prepared to compete fairly.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:57:32am

re: #258 Big Beautiful Door

You are way too pessimistic. I think they are going to pay heavily in November. But time will tell.

After seeing the constant shitshows of the GOP paying precious little long-term consequences for anything while Dem ‘scandals’ and ‘crimes’ linger for decades in the American conscience, when attempts to push civil rights movements gets them tarred to equate into things worse than racism and oppression, when the GOP is poised to reap all the benefits of bad faith with the media slavishly memory holing and enabling all their sins….can you really fucking blame me?

The polls only seem to say what people are willing to say publicly. The reality seems to be that most Americans privately crave this shit, and that’s why it will never change.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:57:43am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I have to agree with this. We can’t take success in November for granted but I do think this is going to be a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP .

I’m going to do what I can; I’ll be working for the Amy McGrath campaign this weekend.

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jeffreyw  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:58:09am

We are all Melians today.
Athenians: “…we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses—-either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of the wrong that you have done us—-and make a long speech that would not be believed; and in return, we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although they are colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, …since you know as well as we do the right, as the world goes, is only in question between equal power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”2

The Melians pointed out that it was to the interest of all states to respect the laws of nations: “you should not destroy what is our common protection, the privilege of being allowed in danger to invoke what is fair and right….”3 They reminded the Athenians that a day might come when the Athenians themselves would need such protection.

But the Athenians were not persuaded. To them, Melos’ submission was in the interest of their empire, and Melos.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:58:31am

re: #268 dangerman

this is the first time in my life i am embarrassed to be an american
its the first time i can see myself living somewhere else ‘better’ and being happier, calmer, content and at ease
if i wasnt married and didnt have family and obligations, i’d seriously consider going
(and i dont mean flake, collins, murkowski ‘seriously’)

I guess I’m young enough. TBH I don’t rule it out but I don’t want to leave. Not just because I have family and friends here but damnit this is my country too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:58:36am

Grassley now saying that he is not going to let the ABA dictate to the committee and the ABA president’s opinion makes no difference.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:58:49am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I have to agree with this. We can’t take success in November for granted but I do think this is going to be a Pyrrhic victory for the GOP .

Unfortunately, I’m in the minority here. I think they’re going to keep the Senate, even if it’s by 1 vote, and go into 2020 convinced that it was their stalwart support of Trump that saved them from the worst.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:58:58am

re: #271 Big Beautiful Door

I’m going to do what I can; I’ll be working for the Amy McGrath campaign this weekend.

Me too for Jennifer Wexton who is running against Kavanaugh’s old buddy Barbara Comstock who is being typically silent on this.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:59:42am

re: #275 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, I’m in the minority here. I think they’re going to keep the Senate, even if it’s by 1 vote, and go into 2020 convinced that it was their stalwart support of Trump that saved them from the worst.

I dunno. I just have to try to be glass half full because if I get too cynical, I can’t do the campaign work.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 7:59:46am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grassley now saying that he is not going to let the ABA dictate to the committee and the ABA president’s opinion makes no difference.

“Look at all the organizations that have given this nomination their support!”

“They’re now calling for a delay so the FBI can investigate.”

“Who the fuck cares what they think?”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:00:05am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grassley now saying that he is not going to let the ABA dictate to the committee and the ABA president’s opinion makes no difference.

ABA knows a lot more about law than you do Senator Kavanaugh Ball Carrier.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:00:57am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I just have to try to be glass half full because if I get too cynical, I can’t do the campaign work.

NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER SURRENDER.

I have my moments of complete despair. Then I shrug it off and move forward.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:01:35am

re: #256 Citizen K

Because of course.

The reality is that the country is infinitely more racist and more sexist than we want to admit. That we really are a fucking hopeless country and that the pathologies are simply coming out all the more because the GOP keeps proving that there’s no actual penalty for it. That the American psyche, in fact, revels in this cruelty and that they will never, ever pay for it. That believing in the better angels of our fellow Americans is a fucking fools errand.

the women. the ‘victim’s have to come out
they have to do it. there is no other way
they have to prepare for and shoulder everything that we and they know is going to happen to them

they have to create the avalanche ‘in numbers to big to ignore’

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:01:37am

Republicans have made it clear that they are above the law.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:01:43am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

ABA knows a lot more about law than you do Senator Kavanaugh Ball Carrier Sucker…Washer…Fondler.

FIFY

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:02:30am

re: #282 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans have made it clear that they are above the law.

And once BK gets to the court, they will be when he’s the 5th vote to allow federal pardons to extend to state crimes.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:02:36am

re: #275 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, I’m in the minority here. I think they’re going to keep the Senate, even if it’s by 1 vote, and go into 2020 convinced that it was their stalwart support of Trump that saved them from the worst.

Odds are they will keep the Senate; but the Democrats have a real shot at winning it. The nightmare scenario is if the GOP keeps the House and the Senate.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:02:37am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I just have to try to be glass half full because if I get too cynical, I can’t do the campaign work.

I’m more like this: It will be worse if we don’t do what we can, and what happens in November happens, and then we deal with that. My optimism is a general thing, not a “we’re going to win the next election” thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:03:20am

Cornyn also insinuating that Dr Ford’s lawyers leaked the letter and other malfeasance.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:03:30am

re: #285 Big Beautiful Door

Odds are they will keep the Senate; but the Democrats have a real shot at winning it. The nightmare scenario is if the GOP keeps the House and the Senate.

I don’t believe they’ll keep the House, but I do think the gains there will be fewer than we’re being led to believe. And that too will be taken as a sign that Trump’s influence is enough to ward off disaster.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:03:53am

re: #280 MsJ

NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER SURRENDER.

I have my moments of complete despair. Then I shrug it off and move forward.

Exactly. I’m just saying that I try to stay on the more optimistic side because if I do slip into despair, I give up. I’ve been working on the campaign, trying ot lose weight/eat better, live better, etc. Slowly working.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:03:55am

re: #280 MsJ

NEVER GIVE UP. NEVER SURRENDER.

I have my moments of complete despair. Then I shrug it off and move forward.

It’s the only choice we’ve got right now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:04:19am

re: #286 Belafon

I’m more like this: It will be worse if we don’t do what we can, and what happens in November happens, and then we deal with that. My optimism is a general thing, not a “we’re going to win the next election” thing.

Right I hear ya. We gotta keep fighting.

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ObserverArt  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:04:24am

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grassley now saying that he is not going to let the ABA dictate to the committee and the ABA president’s opinion makes no difference.

Heh. I wasn’t watching any of it this morning. I was intending to log off and do some work. I turned on the TV. It was still set on MSNBC from Lawrence last night.

I saw Grassely say that and turned it right back off.

Okay…now I gotta go…ugh.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:04:40am

re: #269 Belafon

This was the act of men who know that if they let us win even a little, their reign of terror will be over. The need us to not only lose, but to believe that we can never win, because once that happens, white men just become another category in America, and they’re not prepared to compete fairly.

they never were. they always needed an unfair advantage

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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:05:54am

Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham falling on the sword for Donnie, i.e., party over country. The GOP deserves to rot in Hell.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:06:07am

I need a better tomorrow to look to or else I can’t do today in other words. I need to see the other side of that rainbow and that street paved with gold as the immigrants were told.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:06:54am

re: #294 Dr. Matt

Jeff Flake and Lindsey Graham falling on the sword for Donnie, i.e., party over country. The GOP deserves to rot in Hell.

There’s no way it would happen but I’d love for the GOP to get perceived the same way the Communist Party was.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:07:36am

It always looked like Dems would take the House and Repubs would keep the Senate. I don’t think that has changed.

We always knew there was a risk of Court seats coming open and we knew there’d be nothing we could do but fight as hard as we can. We have done that and will continue to do that.

Right now those of us who paid attention are sickened and outraged and sad…and demoralized. Pick back up. Remember history and demographics are on our side. We have to keep fighting to give those things room to unfold in however many years it takes for us to win.

I will also remind everyone that there is a narcissist in the White House and all of this is like crack to him. We’re giving him exactly what he wants with our despair and sense of powerlessness. Mourn, lick wounds, get sick, then pick yourselves back up and keep going.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:07:58am

re: #288 Targetpractice

I don’t believe they’ll keep the House, but I do think the gains there will be fewer than we’re being led to believe. And that too will be taken as a sign that Trump’s influence is enough to ward off disaster.

So, in your opinion, we can’t win if we win?

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:08:35am

No worries about how I will be able to bake pie. I can just leave it on the sidewalk.

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freetoken  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:09:43am

Typhoon Trami is on the move, after spending several days sitting south of the Ryukyu islands. Could be disastrous for Japan:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:10:24am
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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:10:58am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

I guess I’m young enough. TBH I don’t rule it out but I don’t want to leave. Not just because I have family and friends here but damnit this is my country too.

i get that
and in a sense, leaving is not only surrendering the present, it is also ceding them the future

and country is a thing worth fighting for

as i said, im starting to feel that my ‘country’ is no longer recognizable to me
you know my feelings - liberty and justice for all, universal human rights.

if the patch of dirt collectively called the united states is less and less the champion of that ethos, what does ‘my country’ mean?

(yes i know, quite a rabbit hole and one we probably shouldnt venture too far down today….)

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:11:51am

re: #275 Targetpractice

Unfortunately, I’m in the minority here. I think they’re going to keep the Senate, even if it’s by 1 vote, and go into 2020 convinced that it was their stalwart support of Trump that saved them from the worst.

yeah - keeping the senate by 1 vote - some ‘mandate’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:13:22am
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freetoken  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:13:24am

re: #299 The Vicious Babushka

Nothing that comes out of this Administration should be trusted.

A 4C rise in surface temps by 2100 is a low probability event. Given the approximately stable output of CO2 (which is what has happened over the past couple of years), by 2100 surface temps most likely scenario is an additional 1.5C increase over the current decadal average.

The current administration is trying to make excuses for doing nothing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:14:58am

Sen Whitehouse also calling Kavanaugh a liar: doesn’t believe boof is a fart, Devil’s Triangle is a drinking game, that being a girl’s “alumnius” means she’s a friend.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:15:23am

re: #302 dangerman

i get that
and in a sense, leaving is not only surrendering the present, it is also ceding them the future

and country is a thing worth fighting for

as i said, im starting to feel that my ‘country’ is no longer recognizable to me
you know my feelings - liberty and justice for all, universal human rights.

if the patch of dirt collectively called the united states is less and less the champion of that ethos, what does ‘my country’ mean?

(yes i know, quite a rabbit hole and one we probably shouldnt venture too far down today….)

Right, those thoughts are all on my mind too. I don’t recognize our country either. I’m always happy to get home when I travel internationally but the last two times it’s been more happy to return to my home-home and this last time it wasn’t even certain with that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:16:09am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen Whitehouse also calling Kavanaugh a liar: doesn’t believe boof is a fart, Devil’s Triangle is a drinking game, that being a girl’s “alumnius” means she’s a friend.

I don’t either. It’s absurdity.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:17:01am

re: #302 dangerman

i get that
and in a sense, leaving is not only surrendering the present, it is also ceding them the future

and country is a thing worth fighting for

as i said, im starting to feel that my ‘country’ is no longer recognizable to me
you know my feelings - liberty and justice for all, universal human rights.

if the patch of dirt collectively called the united states is less and less the champion of that ethos, what does ‘my country’ mean?

(yes i know, quite a rabbit hole and one we probably shouldnt venture too far down today….)

There have been darker days in the past. For example July 21, 1861, when it looked like the Republic could literally fall to an army just across the Potomac. But we didn’t surrender to despair, and though enormous sacrifices had to be made in the years to come the Republic was saved. In contrast, all we have to do is get our butts to the polling stations and vote. We are the majority people, act like it!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:19:30am

re: #309 Big Beautiful Door

There have been darker days in the past. For example July 21, 1861, when it looked like the Republic could literally fall to an army just across the Potomac. But we didn’t surrender to despair, and though enormous sacrifices had to be made in the years to come the Republic was saved. In contrast, all we have to do is get our butts to the polling stations and vote. We are the majority people, act like it!

That’s right. That’s exactly right. I gotta stop bellyaching.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:21:14am
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Dr. Matt  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:21:21am

Now Judge Angry Rapey will be able to dish revenge against every left-learning issue that comes to the SCOTUS.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:22:08am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

Now Judge Angry Rapey will be able to dish revenge against every left-learning issue that comes to the SCOTUS.

He’s also going to be a complete dickhead to any Democratic official and SCOTUS deals with a lot of party officials since State AGs and Solicitor Generals often argue in court.

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calochortus  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:22:27am

Just a drive-by because I’m hoping not to wallow in anger/helplessness today and hence need to go do other stuff instead of being online.

Remember that the “year of the woman” followed Thomas’s confirmation. We can make that happen again.

People may not support change on things like same sex marriage, abortion and health care, but once the changes are in place, they don’t much like things being taken away (see: healthcare.)
They can be chipped away at, which must be fought against, but banning, say, same sex marriage will not be a winning issue. Abortion is more nuanced, but also a minefield.

Chin up, and all that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:23:03am

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen Whitehouse also calling Kavanaugh a liar: doesn’t believe boof is a fart, Devil’s Triangle is a drinking game, that being a girl’s “alumnius” means she’s a friend.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:23:57am

re: #288 Targetpractice

I don’t believe they’ll keep the House, but I do think the gains there will be fewer than we’re being led to believe. And that too will be taken as a sign that Trump’s influence is enough to ward off disaster.

Even if the Democrats only win 218 seats in the House, that will be enough to investigate the hell out of Trump and his corrupt Administration, even if he does fire Rosenstein and Mueller. But if we don’t get our people out to vote in November, there is still a risk that the GOP will retain control, and that will be seen as a Trump victory.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:24:16am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t either. It’s an absurd lie.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:25:09am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

Now Judge Angry Rapey will be able to dish revenge against every left-learning issue that comes to the SCOTUS.

That was always a given. It’s just mildly surprising that he let the mask drop.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:26:27am

re: #298 Belafon

So, in your opinion, we can’t win if we win?

I’m just going by historical precedent. We won big in ‘06, but not as big as we’d expected. Got some very good legislation passed in that time. And then lost big in ‘10 and ‘14 because “ZOMG! OBAMACARE’S GONNA KILL US ALL!!!!”

We predicted the GOP getting it in the ass a decade ago meant the public was “finally waking up.” Then we got Obama and they decided the horrors had passed and went back to bed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:26:37am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:27:17am

Kavanaugh’s ability to be non-partisan I think was questionable at best before Dr. Ford’s allegation. It really is questionable now that he feels that a conspiracy is why he is being accused of what Dr. Ford alleges he did. Dickhead didn’t do his homework and saw that she talked about it in 2012 and before he was officially picked this year. But hey Brett cry some more, because you suck both as a judge and a human being.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:28:05am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Something is rotten here and it needs to be ended with a swift kick to the GOP’s political balls.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:28:22am

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But I was assured yesterday by Chuck that the lawyers were stonewalling and that’s why the SJC majority decided to dismiss their allegations!

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:29:52am

re: #319 Targetpractice

I’m just going by historical precedent. We won big in ‘06, but not as big as we’d expected. Got some very good legislation passed in that time. And then lost big in ‘10 and ‘14 because “ZOMG! OBAMACARE’S GONNA KILL US ALL!!!!”

We predicted the GOP getting it in the ass a decade ago meant the public was “finally waking up.” Then we got Obama and they decided the horrors had passed and went back to bed.

That’s a worry for 2022. Lets concentrate on winning this November, and then start working on 2020.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:31:38am

Ha, just read a perfect description of Judge Rapey McRapeface:

“The Alex Jones of the court system”

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freetoken  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:31:49am

While you’re being distracted by the Senate:

E.P.A. to Eliminate Office That Advises Agency Chief on Science

[…]

Separately, on Tuesday, in an unusual move, the E.P.A. placed the head of its Office of Children’s Health, Dr. Ruth Etzel, on administrative leave, while declining to give a reason for the move. Agency officials told Dr. Etzel, a respected pediatric epidemiologist, that the move was not disciplinary. As the head of an office that regularly pushed to tighten regulations on pollution, which can affect children more powerfully than adults, Dr. Etzel had clashed multiple times with Trump administration appointees who sought to loosen pollution rules.

[…]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:32:50am

Klobucher: I don’t want to hear about how they respect Dr Ford when they won’t even bother to do an FBI investigation.

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electrotek  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:35:43am

Just wanted to say this:

Fuck you Jeff Flake

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:35:49am

I’m liking Klobucher.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:37:18am

Oooh, Koblucher just called out Kavanaugh and the polygraph and how he himself said they were okay for interviews and investigations.

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Big Beautiful Door  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:37:33am

re: #329 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’m liking Klobucher.

She could be the next President.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:37:37am

Just brought up Merrick Garland!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:39:25am

re: #329 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’m liking Klobucher.

I like her too!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:39:26am

re: #272 jeffreyw

…and they paid high for it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:40:10am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

Klobucher: I don’t want to hear about how they respect Dr Ford when they won’t even bother to do an FBI investigation.

Boom!

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:41:09am

re: #309 Big Beautiful Door

There have been darker days in the past. For example July 21, 1861, when it looked like the Republic could literally fall to an army just across the Potomac. But we didn’t surrender to despair, and though enormous sacrifices had to be made in the years to come the Republic was saved. In contrast, all we have to do is get our butts to the polling stations and vote. We are the majority people, act like it!

i wasnt alive just then ;-)

of course you are right
and i wasnt even suggesting to abdicate my civic responsibilities or disown the country
short of physically knocking on doors, i could still be reasonably effective living somewhere else as i am right now

as i said, it’s all moot. i’m not going anywhere. i’ll fight the good fight with everyone else

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:43:00am

Here’s a much-needed thread on the Sled Dog Softness Scale.

Take a break from the curs on Judiciary and take in some good dogs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:44:11am

Klobucher stops speaking: “Just waiting for staff over there to stop talking.”

yep, lots of “respect” going on in that room

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:44:52am

LOL. Klobuchar stopped talking and then pulled the teacher thing where she looked at the people across the way and said she was going to wait until staffers stopped talking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:44:59am

Grassley pontificating again

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b.d.(sober as a judge)  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:45:53am
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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:46:20am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

Now Judge Angry Rapey will be able to dish revenge against every left-learning issue that comes to the SCOTUS.

for all the names that are being used to describe kavanaugh, i’d like to suggest NOT using rapey mcrapeface

what a terrible dis to boaty mcboatface that would be

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:46:28am

Oh, gawd. Ted Cruz.

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CongoJack  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:47:03am

re: #341 b.d.(true to form)

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Need to add Vitter to that with him sitting there with a pacifier in his mouth saying, “You guys are suppose to enjoy this not whine like an asshole.”

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:47:39am

Mr. Donnelly…no.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:47:48am

re: #325 Interesting Times

Ha, just read a perfect description of Judge Rapey McRapeface:

“The Alex Jones of the court system”

nnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i just said……!!!!

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:49:23am

re: #330 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Oooh, Koblucher just called out Kavanaugh and the polygraph and how he himself said they were okay for interviews and investigations.

it sounds like today they are hitting a lot of the points some of us might have wanted to hear yesterday

it makes more sense today
yesterday they were limited to 5 mintues and they were really there to ask questions and try to get answers

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:49:44am

I nominate “Judge Weepy Rapey.” Anger can be righteous, after all.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:50:19am

Whoa if true.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:50:27am

You don’t hear Klobuchar’s name in 2020 which is too bad. She’s smart, has the right experience, & though from a safe state is from a region we need to take back.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:50:59am

re: #349 makeitstop

Whoa if true.

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Whoa whoa

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:51:34am

re: #348 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I nominate “Judge Weepy Rapey.” Anger can be righteous, after all.

Judge Dickface Or Blackout Brett to his friends.

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steve_davis  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:52:23am

re: #133 MsJ

I can see Murkowski voting against because her state’s governor is against him. Collins is a fucking complete waste of oxygen. She will vote the party line.

yes, i confidently asserted yesterday here that, for obvious political reasons, Collins would vote no, but I keep getting sucked into the trap of thinking that Republicans aren’t idiotic enough to blow themselves up. I will keep my fingers crossed, but I’m not counting on any kind of profile in courage from Collins. They’ll let Murkowski vote no because they won’t need her vote. Collins though will whore herself out for whatever imagined bit of horse trading she thinks she’ll get for her vote.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:55:34am

Sen. Gelatin Jaw, TX.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:55:47am

They keep making a big deal about the “testimony” of Blackout Brett done “under penalty of perjury,” yet the third accuser did that and endangered her security clearance…and they declared her allegations “a farce” and wouldn’t deign to listen to them.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:57:02am

re: #355 Targetpractice

They keep making a big deal about the “testimony” of Blackout Brett done “under penalty of perjury,” yet the third accuser did that and endangered her security clearance…and they declared her allegations “a farce” and wouldn’t deign to listen to them.

For what it’s worth…

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:59:04am

re: #356 Interesting Times

For what it’s worth…

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Blackout Brett is going to be even more angry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 8:59:06am

re: #349 makeitstop

Whoa if true.

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probably not true:

Rachel Mitchell, the Arizona prosecutor who questioned Christine Blasey Ford at Thursday’s Senate Judiciary Committee, privately told GOP senators she would not prosecute Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh based on the evidence she heard, according to the Washington Post.

That detail was spotlighted Friday by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, whose office sent out a news release Friday referring to Mitchell’s conclusion.

usatoday.com

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:00:16am

Another bit was saying “You don’t just stop,” to which I say “Explain Dennis Hastert.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:01:44am

Cruz is outraged that the Democrats want to keep this SCOTUS seat vacant until 2020.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:03:16am
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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:04:46am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz is outraged that the Democrats want to keep this SCOTUS seat vacant until 2020.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

If the seat is vacant until 2020, it’s no one’s fault but Trump for failing to put up a credible nominee who isn’t a sex predator.

Gorsuch got a valid hearing from the GOP.

The Senate GOP controls this process. If Kavanaugh fails, it’s because he’s a sex predator and the nation recognizes as much. If the Senate GOP, which is likely to continue having control of the Senate after the midterms can’t confirm a Trump pick to the Court - that too is on Trump.

Do better.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:05:01am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cruz is outraged that the Democrats want to keep this SCOTUS seat vacant until 2020.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

That’s rich Ted. Are you forgetting what you and your colleagues vowed to do to the seat that Neil Gorsuch now occupies? Or were you too afraid of people with dyed hair eating tofu to remember your role?

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mmmirele  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:05:20am

Denny Burk is highly influential in Evangelical circles. He is evil, too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:05:40am

Is Cruz seriously trying to make Judge a fucking victim?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:06:04am

re: #364 mmmirele

Denny Burk is highly influential in Evangelical circles. He is evil, too.

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Yet you wanted to lock her up Denny.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:06:10am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

probably not true:

usatoday.com

The attorney hired by the GOP to interrogate and discredit Kavanaugh’s accuser is telling the guys cutting her check that she wouldn’t prosecute their boy? Can I borrow someone’s shocked face? Mine’s busted.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:07:29am

They wouldn’t call me a drug kingpin if I showed up for my interview high but they sure as hell wouldn’t give me the job either.

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ericblair  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:08:40am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

Is Cruz seriously trying to make Judge a fucking victim?

Yes, who’s “struggled with addiction most of his life”.

Now, people can overcome addiction, but I thought the guy was just a quiet type who liked the occasional beer?

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:09:02am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:10:03am

re: #369 ericblair

Yes, who’s “struggled with addiction most of his life”.

Now, people can overcome addiction, but I thought the guy was just a quiet type who liked the occasional beer?

Oh he’s talking about Judge who until last night I didn’t know was the grandson of baseball player Joe Judge.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:10:40am

re: #370 Charmingly Persistent

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Donnelly thankfully just said he was a NO.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:11:18am

re: #356 Interesting Times

For what it’s worth…

Judiciary is going to end up wishing they’d listened to her.

If they think women are pissed now, wait until this hits.

And with no time limits and access to all networks, Swetnick will have free rein to establish her story.

Avenatti will exploit this to the fullest. Rs should be scared.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:13:26am

re: #373 makeitstop

Judiciary is going to end up wishing they’d listened to her.

If they think women are pissed now, wait until this hits.

And with no time limits and access to all networks, Swetnick will have free rein to establish her story.

Avenatti will exploit this to the fullest. Rs should be scared.

Swetnick telling her story is going to get the Montgomery PD involved more. The R’s are going to really regret this.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:14:08am

re: #373 makeitstop

Judiciary is going to end up wishing they’d listened to her.

If they think women are pissed now, wait until this hits.

And with no time limits and access to all networks, Swetnick will have free rein to establish her story.

Avenatti will exploit this to the fullest. Rs should be scared.

If I were the writer for Scary News Stories they sometimes do, this would be reported as “If you have teenage or college age daughters, you need to watch this report.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:14:20am

My prediction if the Montgomery County PD does get involved, one of Kavanaugh’s pals who isn’t as well off or connected eevntually cracks eventually and the gangbang crew goes down.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:15:12am

Coons sounds completely reasonable and sane. I like him, too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:17:06am

re: #377 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Coons sounds completely reasonable and sane. I like him, too.

He’s who ultimately replaced Biden. Different kind of guy than Joe is but I like him too.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:17:43am

Dean Gerken, Yale Law.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:17:52am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:19:49am

re: #380 lawhawk

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I suspect Judge would be even more of a loose cannon than Kavanaugh proved to be. And that’s what Cruz really fears.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:22:00am

Anyhow, thanks guys. Got the friend to admit that his friend was wrong about the cloture/confirmation thing. It’s frustrating because although I don’t agree with this guy on everything, I think he means well but he doesn’t realize that his above the two parties politics thing is a form of partisanship in itself. I have a great annoyance with that and I see it a lot from people like me mostly. By people like me, I mean men of a certain age and race.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:23:41am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, thanks guys. Got the friend to admit that his friend was wrong about the cloture/confirmation thing. It’s frustrating because although I don’t agree with this guy on everything, I think he means well but he doesn’t realize that his above the two parties politics thing is a form of partisanship in itself. I have a great annoyance with that and I see it a lot from people like me mostly. By people like me, I mean men of a certain age and race.

And the same shit that, inevitably, holds Dems to an infinitely higher standard than the GOP while acting like they’re both the exact same animal?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:24:07am

Now Cory Booker.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:25:03am

re: #383 Citizen K

And the same shit that, inevitably, holds Dems to an infinitely higher standard than the GOP while acting like they’re both the exact same animal?

Exactly. Whole thing turned into a tangent about something else when someone else pointed what I did and I just had to get out of it.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:25:11am

Freudian slip while praising the top senior members, called him Senator Assley.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:25:42am

re: #386 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Freudian slip while praising the top senior members, called him Senator Assley.

Uh oh the people who don’t like swearing but love Trump telling it as it is aren’t going to like that. //

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:25:52am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

You can tell him this, I’m above both parties as well, but when I look at my priorities - food, housing, education, health care, equality, opportunity, etc. - exactly one of the parties, the Democratic, offers the best chance of accomplishing my priorities. I didn’t choose my priorities based on the party. It’s the other way around.

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ericblair  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:26:09am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

My prediction if the Montgomery County PD does get involved, one of Kavanaugh’s pals who isn’t as well off or connected eevntually cracks eventually and the gangbang crew goes down.

My belief is that the entire Trump cabal, and most of the elected Republicans, have enough criminally actionable skeletons in their closets plus the possibility of mutual blackmail that none of them can stand up to any sort of investigation. The Republican party is a criminal conspiracy at this point, and most of the goopers can’t even figure out how many laws they’ve broken either directly or as part of the conspiracy.

It does explain how they don’t seem to be doing any preparing for a Democratic sweep. It’s not that they are confident they’ll win, but they have no idea what they would do if and when they lose. So they don’t think about it, because what good would it do?

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:26:10am

A profile in bravery, Jeff Flake is.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:27:24am

re: #384 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Now Cory Booker.

He’s running….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:28:48am

re: #388 Belafon

You can tell him this, I’m above both parties as well, but when I look at my priorities - food, housing, education, health care, equality, opportunity, etc. - exactly one of the parties, the Democratic, offers the best chance of accomplishing my priorities. I didn’t choose my priorities based on the party. It’s the other way around.

Exactly.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:29:11am

And yet more about that funny ‘both sides same thing’ standard that punishes the Dems for GOP sins because ‘they must be exactly the same’.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:29:24am

re: #389 ericblair

My belief is that the entire Trump cabal, and most of the elected Republicans, have enough criminally actionable skeletons in their closets plus the possibility of mutual blackmail that none of them can stand up to any sort of investigation. The Republican party is a criminal conspiracy at this point, and most of the goopers can’t even figure out how many laws they’ve broken either directly or as part of the conspiracy.

It does explain how they don’t seem to be doing any preparing for a Democratic sweep. It’s not that they are confident they’ll win, but they have no idea what they would do if and when they lose. So they don’t think about it, because what good would it do?

Yeah I definitely think there’s a lot of ugly skeletons in closets here.

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unproven innocence  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:29:27am

<re: #384 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Now Cory Booker.

PBS live feed is yet to point camera to Booker, I think, for even a second.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:30:14am

re: #393 Citizen K

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And yet more about that funny ‘both sides same thing’ standard that punishes the Dems for GOP sins because ‘they must be exactly the same’.

Yeah this shit just pisses me off too. Stop trying to make it both sides. That doesn’t make you neutral, insightful, or “above it all”, it just shows that you have an agenda too.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:31:38am

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Yeah this shit just pisses me off too. Stop trying to make it both sides. That doesn’t make you neutral, insightful, or “above it all”, it just shows that you have an agenda too.

But see, that’s ok. We’ll get the other side of the story: that Dems are at fault for being cynical partisans and hiding Dr. Blasey-Ford’s accusations because they’re all terrible horrible partisan people!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:32:19am

Frankly the both sides shit is some of the most white guy privileged shit I’ve ever seen.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:32:22am

re: #390 Citizen K

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A profile in bravery, Jeff Flake is.

Flake is retiring for a reason. Republicans are doing what they’re doing for a reason. Blackmail or guaranteed election interference by enemy state Nations, I don’t know. But they have to see what’s happening - yet they do nothing.

There are reasons and we are all in the dark.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:32:32am

re: #364 mmmirele

Denny Burk is highly influential in Evangelical circles. He is evil, too.

“A single witness shall not suffice against a person for any crime or for any wrong in connection with any offense that he has committed. Only on the evidence of two witnesses or of three witnesses shall a charge be established.”

-The God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob (Deut. 19:15)

Kav hasnt been accused criminally or charged with anything

and there are lots of witnesses

putting your fingers in your ears yelling “lalalalalal we dont want to hear from them” pretending they dont exist i dont think was your god’s intention

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steve_davis  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:32:49am

re: #285 Big Beautiful Door

Odds are they will keep the Senate; but the Democrats have a real shot at winning it. The nightmare scenario is if the GOP keeps the House and the Senate.

my wet dream is that we take the House, and actually flip the senate to 51 or 52 good guys and gals. We neutralize Trump, impeaching Kavanaugh when he gets indicted in Maryland as a serial rapist. We don’t impeach Trump but instead wave a carrot in front of him, telling him he is safe as long as he acts as a rubber stamp for Democratic-generated legislation. His base becomes so enraged by him suddenly taking a liberal platform that 2020 becomes an utter bloodbath, with Democrats returning to numbers in the senate that haven’t been seen in 40 or 50 years. Filibuster-proof majorities.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:32:54am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:33:16am

re: #397 Citizen K

But see, that’s ok. We’ll get the other side of the story: that Dems are at fault for being cynical partisans and hiding Dr. Blasey-Ford’s accusations because they’re all terrible horrible partisan people!

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Yeah I’m sick of this fucking bullshit. One party is advocating for a man who credibly has been accused of sexual assault to be confirmed for SCOTUS. End of sentence. That’s all you need to fucking write.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:34:02am

re: #395 unproven innocence

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PBS live feed is yet to point camera to Booker, I think, for even a second.

I’m watching it on CSPAN.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:34:09am

re: #391 Barefoot Grin

He’s running….

Ok, to be fair, that wind-up about respecting Grassley and loving country is now followed by the heat. Good job, Cory.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:35:19am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

My prediction if the Montgomery County PD does get involved, one of Kavanaugh’s pals who isn’t as well off or connected eevntually cracks eventually and the gangbang crew goes down.

start low, work up
the mueller plan

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:36:58am

Yeah, I’m done. I’m fucking done right now.

I want to punch every single fucking thing right now. It’ll be more productive because saying anything at this point is like screaming to the fucking wind. It’s clear the only voices that matter in this country are the worst of us, and they’re telling us in unison ‘Fuck off, we own this country, we won, and you get nothing’.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:37:39am

re: #407 Citizen K

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Yeah, I’m done. I’m fucking done right now.

I want to punch every single fucking thing right now. It’ll be more productive because saying anything at this point is like screaming to the fucking wind. It’s clear the only voices that matter in this country are the worst of us, and they’re telling us in unison ‘Fuck off, we own this country, we won, and you get nothing’.

OFFS you pathetic man.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:39:28am

So though, a doppleganger raped her but yet she’s also part of a conspiracy to defame Kavanaugh’s good name. GAh!

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:41:13am

Mr. Tester…no.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:41:49am

MeToo kind of hit close to home yet again this morning. Guys, these women, these are women that we’ve known our entire lives. Why disbelieve someone had such a horrible thing happened to them? Just why?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:42:28am

re: #409 HappyWarrior

So though, a doppleganger raped her but yet she’s also part of a conspiracy to defame Kavanaugh’s good name. GAh!

They don’t really believe it was someone else; they just know that it wouldn’t look good for them if they said: yes Kavanaugh assaulted her and lied about but we don’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:42:29am

re: #410 makeitstop

Mr. Tester…no.

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Appreciate him pointing out the other things too. There’s million and one reasons to oppose KAvanaugh.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:42:58am

re: #397 Citizen K

But see, that’s ok. We’ll get the other side of the story: that Dems are at fault for being cynical partisans and hiding Dr. Blasey-Ford’s accusations because they’re all terrible horrible partisan people!

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i was just htinking the only way this works is

- if we knew sooner we could have tore her apart sooner
- by waiting, you’ve made it much harder for us to drop Kav and start with someone else - november math being what it is

as if its the dems job to make the R’s job easier and even if true how dare the dems use timing, the calendar, politics etc to get what they want (ignoring merrick garland)

while no one will acknowledge that any and all time lines related to advice and consent are more or less arbitrary

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:43:02am

re: #412 Hecuba’s daughter

They don’t really believe it was someone else; they just know that it wouldn’t look good for them if they said: yes Kavanaugh assaulted her and lied about but we don’t care.

My fucking head hurts. And I have a bottle of whiskey with my name on it right above me.

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Ferdinand  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:43:22am

re: #408 HappyWarrior

OFFS you pathetic man.

Heh. I hear my own rage in CitizenK’s postings today. And, I also appreciate your “happy warrior” jousting that now makes me wonder if we both sound like Hudson from Aliens - “Game over, man! Game over!”

Then again, he didn’t survive another 24 hours, did he? 😎

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:44:23am

You could have actually vetted him. You could have been transparent with his records. You could have taken this allegation fucking seriously but no you need your fucking Prep Boy Drunk because he’s the one who will definitely protect Trump when shit starts to get serious for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:45:22am

re: #416 Ferdinand

Heh. I hear my own rage in CitizenK’s postings today. And, I also appreciate your “happy warrior” jousting that now makes me wonder if we both sound like Hudson from Aliens - “Game over, man! Game over!”

Then again, he didn’t survive another 24 hours, did he? 😎

For me, it’s a combination of bewilderment and knowing that it makes me even more determined to do the campaign work I’ve done.

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Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:47:26am

re: #402 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

And this is why the GOP senators took over.

I keep forgetting you can’t read anything on Raw Story without paying.

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Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:49:04am

Let me know as soon as a Republican votes no.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:49:08am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

You could have actually vetted him. You could have been transparent with his records. You could have taken this allegation fucking seriously but no you need your fucking Prep Boy Drunk because he’s the one who will definitely protect Trump when shit starts to get serious for Trump.

They cannot declare their independence from Trump.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:49:10am

re: #419 Skip Intro

I keep forgetting you can’t read anything on Raw Story without paying.

i get by with an incog window from chrome

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:49:18am

re: #419 Skip Intro

I keep forgetting you can’t read anything on Raw Story without paying.

That site is a hot mess. It takes forever to load for me.

I got nothing against people monetizing their sites, but when they work it to the point where you can’t even read the article without waiting for 50 ads to load, I’m gone.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:51:00am

re: #421 Belafon

They cannot declare their independence from Trump.

True.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:51:46am

re: #420 Skip Intro

Let me know as soon as a Republican votes no.

I hear ya. I think at best, we may get one for kabuki and then Pence and his stupid smile will break the tie.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:54:32am

re: #419 Skip Intro

I keep forgetting you can’t read anything on Raw Story without paying.

I never pay for Raw Story nor does hubby. Maybe because we’re in Canada?

I had no idea they had a paywall. I would not pay one penny to get their content. Their site sucks and their stories are sometimes very suspect to me.

Hubs thinks they use our CPU to mine Bitcoin because the CPU usage goes insane whenever you’re on their site.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:54:53am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

For me, it’s a combination of bewilderment and knowing that it makes me even more determined to do the campaign work I’ve done.

more determined is the typical female reaction, so for as I have noticed. And men of like minds. Thanks for your work.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:57:10am

re: #426 MsJ

I never pay for Raw Story nor does hubby. Maybe because we’re in Canada?

I had no idea they had a paywall. I would not pay one penny to get their content. Their site sucks and their stories are sometimes very suspect to me.

Hubs thinks they use our CPU to mine Bitcoin because the CPU usage goes insane whenever you’re on their site.

I’ve never seen a paywall, and I’m in NY. But it’s one of the slowest-loading sites I’ve ever seen. Which is just as bad, I suppose.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:57:33am

re: #425 HappyWarrior

I hear ya. I think at best, we may get one for kabuki and then Pence and his stupid smile will break the tie.

VP tie-breaker vote shouldn’t be used for SCOTUS nominee

From July 5, 2018

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:59:20am

re: #427 wrenchwench

more determined is the typical female reaction, so for as I have noticed. And men of like minds. Thanks for your work.

You’re welcome. I’m glad to do it.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 9:59:46am

re: #429 dangerman

VP tie-breaker vote shouldn’t be used for SCOTUS nominee

From July 5, 2018

That wouldn’t stop Mother’s Husband.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:02:57am

Blumenthal is bringing up everything that needed to be brought up about Kavanaugh’s atrocious behavior yesterday and how that makes him not qualified in addition to the credibility of Dr. Ford. Going through this stuff one by one and basically saying that Kavanaugh is a liar.

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gocart mozart  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:04:49am

Brett & Mark hit and run Christine

X Johnny Hit and Run Paulene 1981

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:06:10am

re: #431 HappyWarrior

That wouldn’t stop Mother’s Husband.

oh i know
‘shouldn’t’ means of course he will

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:07:34am

I’ve seen Booker and now Blumenthal step out of the proceedings after their statements. What does that mean? Are they refusing to vote?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:08:29am

re: #432 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Blumenthal is bringing up everything that needed to be brought up about Kavanaugh’s atrocious behavior yesterday and how that makes him not qualified in addition to the credibility of Dr. Ford. Going through this stuff one by one and basically saying that Kavanaugh is a liar.

Blumenthal was trying to use the Fenway Park trip and Kav’s story of coming back to campus at 4:45 AM “Trying to put the pieces together” as proof that he definitely did blackout drink. Kavanaugh was trying to say “I remember that night” but he wasn’t giving anything specific that suggested he actually remembered. I did notice he said George Brett was playing third base for the Royals and then corrected himself to say Left Field since that was odd since Brett was usually a third baseman but that’s something that could have easily been found out before hand.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:10:24am

re: #434 dangerman

oh i know
‘shouldn’t’ means of course he will

Yeah of course.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:12:34am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Blumenthal was trying to use the Fenway Park trip and Kav’s story of coming back to campus at 4:45 AM “Trying to put the pieces together” as proof that he definitely did blackout drink. Kavanaugh was trying to say “I remember that night” but he wasn’t giving anything specific that suggested he actually remembered. I did notice he said George Brett was playing third base for the Royals and then corrected himself to say Left Field since that was odd since Brett was usually a third baseman but that’s something that could have easily been found out before hand.

Brent Kavenaw’s memories are always ‘something that could have easily been found out before hand’, whereas Dr. Ford’s have the norepinephrine and epinephrine explanation to back them up. I know who’s memory has credibility.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:13:59am

If any Lizards have a Facebook account, I got some bad news for ya……

Facebook has said “almost 50 million” of its users were left exposed by a security flaw.

The company said attackers were able to exploit a vulnerability in a feature known as “View As” to gain control of people’s accounts.

The breach was discovered on Tuesday, Facebook said, and it has informed police.

Users that had potentially been affected were prompted to re-log-in on Friday.

The flaw has been fixed, wrote the firm’s head of security, Guy Rosen.

“Since we’ve only just started our investigation, we have yet to determine whether these accounts were misused or any information accessed. We also don’t know who’s behind these attacks or where they’re based. “

He added: “People’s privacy and security is incredibly important, and we’re sorry this happened.”

bbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:14:15am

re: #438 wrenchwench

Brent Kavenaw’s memories are always ‘something that could have easily been found out before hand’, whereas Dr. Ford’s have the norepinephrine and epinephrine explanation to back them up. I know who’s memory has credibility.

Exactly what I was getting at. It’s easy for Kavanaugh to remember details like Roger Clemens pitched that day or that George Brett played left field that day.

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Citizen K  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:15:18am

re: #433 gocart mozart

A reminder that the band had to call out their fanbase because folks who were going to their shows were celebrating the song and ‘hit and run’s’, when the song was ultimately an anti-rape song. What was a warning was taken as a celebration of rape instead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:18:54am

re: #435 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve seen Booker and now Blumenthal step out of the proceedings after their statements. What does that mean? Are they refusing to vote?

that is correct.
Also, Mazie Hirono and Kamala Harris

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:21:25am

I’m wondering if Flake is going to come back for the vote.
I have a vision of him continuing to walk completely out of the building.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:23:00am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m wondering if Flake is going to come back for the vote.
I have a vision of him continuing to walk completely out of the building.

Here’s a rodent copulation for you: All the Dems leave, Flake votes no, but Kav passes since he’s the only dissent. If they were there, he’d vote yes.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:23:13am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m wondering if Flake is going to come back for the vote.
I have a vision of him continuing to walk completely out of the building.

Oh, that would be hilarious. But what would it mean in practical terms, if all the Dems walkout and only 10 GOPers vote to move forward?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:23:14am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m wondering if Flake is going to come back for the vote.
I have a vision of him continuing to walk completely out of the building.

My question about the vote: does it require a majority of the full panel or just a majority of those present?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:23:27am

Being reported on MSNBC that Flake is meeting with Chris Coons and other Democratic Senators right now

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:23:28am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m wondering if Flake is going to come back for the vote.
I have a vision of him continuing to walk completely out of the building.

In my vision, he walks all the way back to Snowflake, AZ, with a week long stop in TX to campaign for his buddy, Beto.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:24:08am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being reported on MSNBC that Flake is meeting with Chris Coons and other Democratic Senators right now

What do you bet it’s a “yes” now and a “no” later?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:24:41am

re: #449 Barefoot Grin

What do you bet it’s a “yes” now and a “no” later?

I’m leaning toward that thought

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:24:47am

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being reported on MSNBC that Flake is meeting with Chris Coons and other Democratic Senators right now

Maybe that encounter in the elevator this morning got to him.

Not counting on it, but it sure would be wild. Imagine the tears.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:25:00am

re: #449 Barefoot Grin

What do you bet it’s a “yes” now and a “no” later?

That would uh be interesting. I guess as long as Kavanaugh isn’t on Scotus in the end.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:26:14am

anteroom is where Flake is having his Dem “intervention”.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:27:02am

re: #451 makeitstop

Maybe that encounter in the elevator this morning got to him.

Not counting on it, but it sure would be wild. Imagine the tears.

I am zero counting on Flake, but what if the new Arizona motto became “thumbs down”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:27:17am
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CongoJack  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:27:19am

re: #440 HappyWarrior

Exactly what I was getting at. It’s easy for Kavanaugh to remember details like Roger Clemens pitched that day or that George Brett played left field that day.

Also its relatively easy to remember how the game started. Ask him how it finished. I bet you he cant remember as he likely had a few brews at the game.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:27:32am

re: #451 makeitstop

Maybe that encounter in the elevator this morning got to him.

We couldn’t see the woman speaking in the video, but he most certainly did (despite doing everything in his power to cowardly stare at the floor instead)

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:27:36am

re: #453 Backwoods_Sleuth

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anteroom is where Flake is having his Dem “intervention”.

Come on, Flake. Do the right thing for once. History will be kind, I promise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:28:09am
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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:28:12am

re: #438 wrenchwench

Brent Kavenaw’s memories are always ‘something that could have easily been found out before hand’, whereas Dr. Ford’s have the norepinephrine and epinephrine explanation to back them up. I know who’s memory has credibility.

maybe i should stop saying this
i dont know

it doesnt matter (i mean aside from the r’s ‘ramming’ this through anyway)
none of this matters
its not whose more believable
its that the accusation is credible and serious. and has been determined at least to not be frivolous or a total fabrication (except to some cavemen)

that is more than enough to end a nomination to the supreme court.
to want/have/allow this permanent cloud is a ‘fuck you’ to the legitimacy of the rest of the court

and yes, they dont care anyway

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:29:03am

re: #458 makeitstop

Come on, Flake. Do the right thing for once. History will be kind, I promise.

History may be kind, but Flake may have to retire outside of AZ.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:29:37am

re: #440 HappyWarrior

Exactly what I was getting at. It’s easy for Kavanaugh to remember details like Roger Clemens pitched that day or that George Brett played left field that day.

12 angry men:

“It’s not difficult for a lawyer to find out what played at a particular theater on a particular night.”

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:29:41am

re: #461 wrenchwench

History may be kind, but Flake may have to retire outside of AZ.

Also true.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:29:43am

IF Flake changes his vote, then I’m not sure where we go from there. Technically Yertle could decide to say “Fuck it” and bring the nomination to the full Senate, but without the committee’s recommendation it’s pretty much a guarantee he doesn’t have the votes.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:29:48am

re: #459 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know how you’ll know this is true: When all of the Democrats return to the Judiciary meeting.

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Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:29:55am

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:30:28am

The vote is right now, correct?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:30:28am

re: #457 Interesting Times

We couldn’t see the woman speaking in the video, but he most certainly did (despite doing everything in his power to cowardly stare at the floor instead)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:31:28am

re: #462 dangerman

12 angry men:

“It’s not difficult for a lawyer to find out what played at a particular theater on a particular night.”

Such a great movie.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:33:27am

If Feinstein walks in with a switchblade all bets are off. //

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:33:28am

The suspense is fuckin’ killing me.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:33:39am

re: #464 Targetpractice

IF Flake changes his vote, then I’m not sure where we go from there. Technically Yertle could decide to say “Fuck it” and bring the nomination to the full Senate, but without the committee’s recommendation it’s pretty much a guarantee he doesn’t have the votes.

That’s what they did with Bork. Bork was sunk in committee but the Reagan team pulled s damn the torpedos, full speed ahead and flopped.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:33:42am
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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:34:04am

re: #468 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Sexual assault survivors confront Jeff Flake on the elevator]

Hijacking elevators is terrorism!

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:34:27am

No Justice, No Peace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:37:28am

re: #467 Amory Blaine

The vote is right now, correct?

should be now, but not happening yet.
Grassley has left the room

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:37:32am

re: #472 HappyWarrior

That’s what they did with Bork. Bork was sunk in committee but the Reagan team pulled s damn the torpedos, full speed ahead and flopped.

I suspect if Flake changes his vote, then they’ll just schedule a second vote while they drag him off into the cloak room to work him over. Or they’ll acquiesce to the demands for an FBI investigation…but with a short deadline and the intent on junking whatever report is produced. This is becoming about checking boxes on a list.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:38:21am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

should be now, but not happening yet.
Grassley has left the room

He’s got to either put on a fake performance, or get Trump to threaten Arizona.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:38:52am

Is flake about to have his McCain Moment? What does he have to lose? He is retiring and will have a fat pension.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:39:08am

They’ll deploy the Flake doppelganger for the vote.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:39:38am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

should be now, but not happening yet.
Grassley has left the room

All the action is in the hallways, the anterooms, not cold enough for the coat room yet. Smoking room has gone out of style.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:39:40am

Oh, just fucking shoot me now.

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sagehen  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:40:45am

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:40:50am

re: #482 Single-handed sailor

You didn’t know this? That’s what borking acutally means.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:41:11am

Maybe Flake will save his ‘no’ vote for when it really counts.

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:41:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:42:06am

Grassley is back in the room. Looks like the only other senator there is Orrin Hatch. Everybody else is gone. The vote should have been taken 22 minutes ago.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:42:18am

re: #461 wrenchwench

History may be kind, but Flake may have to retire outside of AZ.

He could move to Tucson just fine. He could also easily find employment at some of hte large law firms in AZ.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:42:36am

re: #486 The Vicious Babushka

He can’t pardon them in state crimes. What he can do is pardon them for federal crimes and similar state crimes would not be allowed.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:42:36am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

Such a great movie.

Says so much avbout human nature
And the perception of what is true

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:43:07am
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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:43:50am

re: #488 Mike Lamb

He could move to Tucson just fine. He could also easily find employment at some of hte large law firms in AZ.

The great state of New York would welcome him with open arms.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:43:59am

The sergeant at arms is in the coat room drunk on kavanaugh.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:44:00am
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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:46:52am

I’m rather curious just what it was that caused the worm to turn if Flake does change his vote.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:46:54am

Oh, someone gifted my wife a deer, had it sent to the processor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:47:08am

Flake back in the room along with a bunch of GOP senators

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:47:27am

Grassley and Hatch just left

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:47:50am

Make sure it’s really Flake!

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:48:37am

re: #495 Targetpractice

I’m rather curious just what it was that caused the worm to turn if Flake does change his vote.

It had to be that woman getting in his face. Had to be.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:49:11am

re: #496 Amory Blaine

Oh, someone gifted my wife a deer, had it sent to the processor.

I hear they’re a bitch to gift wrap…

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:50:13am
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:50:23am

and unrelated but also important

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:50:35am

Grassley ready to vote, looking to see if he has a quorum. Democrats are not there

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:51:14am

Klobucher is there as is Chris Coons.

Flake is going to speak.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:51:52am

Flake wants to delay for a week for an FBI investigation

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:52:27am

Lyndsey put up enough strawmen for a quarum yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:52:42am

He wants to delay the floor vote

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:53:02am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flake wants to delay for a week for an FBI investigation

A whole week, Jeff? (It’s better than nothing, but c’mon).

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:53:36am

re: #86 GlutenFreeJesus

Evangelical groups have anti-Roe v Wade lawsuits ready to file the second Kavanaugh is confirmed.

Roe v Wade is a wedge issue distraction.

The Johnson Amendment is the real prize.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:53:39am

re: #509 Mike Lamb

A whole week, Jeff?

That’s 3 months in trumptime.

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:53:50am

re: #507 Amory Blaine

Lyndsey put up enough strawmen for a quarum yesterday.

He put up enough strawmen to fill the British House of Commons to overflowing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:54:06am

Grassley is calling the vote without attaching the proviso for delaying the floor vote for an FBI investigation

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:54:29am

re: #511 Interesting Times

That’s 3 months in trumptime.

There’s a whole lot of Friday’s in a week now.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:54:32am

re: #509 Mike Lamb

A whole week, Jeff? (It’s better than nothing, but c’mon).

At this point anything we get is good. When you have no leverage, this is a life preserver for a drowning country.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:54:35am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flake wants to delay for a week for an FBI investigation

Good for him

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:54:35am
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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:55:15am

re: #511 Interesting Times

That’s 3 months in trumptime.

How many Scarmoochies is that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:55:32am

Coons being the voice of reason

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:55:58am

re: #514 Belafon

There’s a whole lot of Friday’s in a week now.

Imagine the damage that Avenatti could do with a week of TV appearances…

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:56:33am
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:56:43am

Can the committee order an investigation or does it have to come from the WH?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:56:46am

If there is not a floor vote delay I’m pretty sure Flake will vote no on the Senate floor

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:57:26am

yes, Flake just said that if there is no FBI investigation he will vote no

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:57:33am

Heh

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:58:20am

re: #524 Backwoods_Sleuth

yes, Flake just said that if there is no FBI investigation he will vote no

Hopefully this will embolden Murkowski to join him.

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Amory Blaine  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:58:44am

“Someone’s got a case of the Fridays”

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:58:53am
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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:59:02am

Trump is not going to allow this.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:59:07am

re: #514 Belafon

Too many Fridays, and not enough Thursdays…paydays.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:59:41am

re: #529 Scottish Dragon

Trump is not going to allow this.

Which would only multiply opposition to Augh.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 10:59:59am

re: #528 jaunte

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They’re just looting shit before Hurricane November…

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Dr Lizardo  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:00:07am

re: #529 Scottish Dragon

Trump is not going to allow this.

I’d imagine Trump’s blowing a gasket as I type this.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:00:28am

Trump is not going to authorize the FBI to reopen the investigation. I can’t see where he does this, although I’m delighted to be wrong.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:00:43am

If they still take it to the floor and Flake votes ‘no’, that would not be enough to prevent the appointment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:01:18am

re: #534 Scottish Dragon

Trump is not going to authorize the FBI to reopen the investigation. I can’t see where he does this, although I’m delighted to be wrong.

Then Flake will vote no

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:01:28am

re: #489 Belafon

He can’t pardon them in state crimes. What he can do is pardon them for federal crimes and similar state crimes would not be allowed.

But that could, in effect, free the Trump criminals: how similar would the crimes have to be? I realize that the ACLU favors this in general because of “double jeopardy”, but would that mean for any particular criminal action?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:03:04am

re: #535 Single-handed sailor

If they still take it to the floor and Flake votes ‘no’, that would not be enough to prevent the appointment.

I can’t imagine Murkowski wouldn’t join Flake since she has also called for an investigation.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:03:33am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:04:24am

re: #539 I Would Prefer Not To

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Lol that’s mean. Sounds like a surreal reimagining of Mrs. Doubtfire.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:05:50am

re: #536 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then Flake will vote no

Did he explicitly say that?

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:06:36am

I wonder where McConnell stands on this deal?

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:07:10am

re: #537 Hecuba’s daughter

But that could, in effect, free the Trump criminals: how similar would the crimes have to be? I realize that the ACLU favors this in general because of “double jeopardy”, but would that mean for any particular criminal action?

The one quesiton I would like to ask the ACLU is what about Ford’s precedent of pardoning before being convincted?

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steve_davis  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:08:16am

re: #310 HappyWarrior

That’s right. That’s exactly right. I gotta stop bellyaching.

the crazy thing is that there was a moment, due to a tactical blunder in positioning troops, when a good case has been made that one of the confederate armies wandering around virginia could just about have walked into Washington unscathed, or put so much pressure on the capitol that the Union might well have sued for terms.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:09:03am

re: #544 steve_davis

the crazy thing is that there was a moment, due to a tactical blunder in positioning troops, when a good case has been made that one of the confederate armies wandering around virginia could just about have walked into Washington unscathed, or put so much pressure on the capitol that the Union might well have sued for terms.

My county seat, Leesburg, VA changed hands several times during the war. There are so many little what ifs that could have allowed the CSA to win.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:09:11am

re: #542 makeitstop

I wonder where McConnell stands on this deal?

Wiping his ass with it.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:10:49am

There goes that AG gig…

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:12:54am

re: #547 makeitstop

There goes that AG gig…

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Really? Somebody’s gotta *explain* it????

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:13:13am

re: #547 makeitstop

There goes that AG gig…

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And guess what Lindsay, he still doesn’t like you, he likes using you. You pretty much got played by Trump the same way that Putin plays him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:13:46am

re: #548 dangerman

Really? Somebody’s gotta *explain* it????

They’re making the coloring book as we speak, relax :). It comes with a Happy Meal too.

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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:13:50am

re: #547 makeitstop

There goes that AG gig…

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He’ll have to break out the hand puppets…again.

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fern01  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:14:18am

McConnell has no time for gentlemen’s agreements and Flake voted Yes. If McConnell brings this to the floor, will Flake vote NO - will anyone else vote NO.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:14:57am
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Targetpractice  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:16:01am

re: #553 makeitstop

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We’ll know if that is so because Mitch will go to the floor to rail away again about how evil Democrats are…before announcing the delay.

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lawhawk  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:16:07am

re: #548 dangerman

Really? Somebody’s gotta *explain* it????

It’s Trumpworld.

Trump needed to realize that he had to pay for a transition team regardless of whether he won. The government wasn’t paying for it but required it in case that he did.

Bannon and Christie had that task, and Bannon eventually got Trump to settle down after warning him of what it would look like if Trump refused to pay for a transition team - that he was giving up.

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Interesting Times  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:16:10am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:17:10am
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BlueGrl21  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:17:41am

On hearing about the delay and the investigation I burst into tears of relief. And I hadn’t been able to cry before then at all. Emotions too shut down.

Look, the investigation may come to nothing. This may be purely a political thing. I get that. But all I want, all so many of us are asking for, is to hear us and investigate the man. Don’t dismiss us and barrel ahead. Because this is why so many women do not come forward, no one will ever listen or believe us. No one will investigate.

No one will CARE.

Again, this may, and probably will, come to nothing but someone heard.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:18:27am

Waiting to see if anyone’s got Flake’s back on this.

Senator Murkowski to the white courtesy phone, please…

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:20:42am

Remember, Trump gets off on the drama.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:20:46am
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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:21:51am

re: #558 BlueGrl21

On hearing about the delay and the investigation I burst into tears of relief. And I hadn’t been able to cry before then at all. Emotions too shut down.

Look, the investigation may come to nothing. This may be purely a political thing. I get that. But all I want, all so many of us are asking for, is to hear us and investigate the man. Don’t dismiss us and barrel ahead. Because this is why so many women do not come forward, no one will ever listen or believe us. No one will investigate.

No one will CARE.

Again, this may, and probably will, come to nothing but someone heard.

{{{BlueGrl21}}}

We’re chipping away at the wall. Slow as hell, but it’s progress.

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fern01  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:21:59am

Mark Judge might be more concerned than Susan Collins at the minute

564
The Vicious Babushka  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:22:41am

This viral thing keeps going through my head.

BED INTRUDER - ORIGINAL AND REMIX

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KGxvi  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:22:46am

re: #557 Charles Johnson

Flake could have voted “no” and it could have still gone to the floor, a la Bork. I’m not sure what else he could have done to delay the committee vote… maybe support democrats in a vote to table the vote? If that would be allowed.

The one week delay may well be because they dont have the votes to confirm and they’re trying to whip votes

Or it may well be genuine. That’s a long shot because I don’t fucking trust any of them at this point. But listening on With Friends Like These and what Rick Wilson is saying, maybe the constituent objections are getting through, maybe a wife/daughter/sister is sharing a story

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:22:48am

re: #563 fern01

Mark Judge might be more concerned than Susan Collins at the minute

I would not be surprised if something happened to judge

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:23:29am
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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:23:46am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:24:13am

re: #559 makeitstop

Waiting to see if anyone’s got Flake’s back on this.

Senator Murkowski to the white courtesy phone, please…

Murkowski and Manchin.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:24:35am

re: #566 MsJ

I would not be surprised if something happened to judge

He is going to get in a car and vanish again.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:25:25am
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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:25:40am

re: #570 Scottish Dragon

He is going to get in a car and vanish again.

Hopefully somebody smart is in a car outside that beach house, waiting to follow him if need be.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:26:18am

re: #572 makeitstop

Hopefully somebody smart is in a car outside that beach house, waiting to follow him if need be.

Him and his box of comics.

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fern01  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:27:15am

re: #566 MsJ

I would not be surprised if something happened to judge

I would not be surprised if the recovering alcoholic has a relapse.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:28:54am
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fern01  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:30:43am

re: #575 Charles Johnson

Everyone who watched this understood what happened - yet someone has to explain it to trump. Wonder if Lindsay realised how dumb he made the president look with this statement.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:30:45am

I can’t wait for Trump to yell “Why are you listening to those women?!” I would add explitives, but I’m at work.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:31:37am

Either way he’s raging at Flake.

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jamesfirecat  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:32:02am

re: #548 dangerman

Really? Somebody’s gotta *explain* it????

Hopefully with a pop up picture book.

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MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:32:08am

re: #578 HappyWarrior

Either way he’s raging at Flake.

Flakes gone soon. I can’t imagine he cares at all.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:32:17am

re: #558 BlueGrl21

On hearing about the delay and the investigation I burst into tears of relief. And I hadn’t been able to cry before then at all. Emotions too shut down.

Look, the investigation may come to nothing. This may be purely a political thing. I get that. But all I want, all so many of us are asking for, is to hear us and investigate the man. Don’t dismiss us and barrel ahead. Because this is why so many women do not come forward, no one will ever listen or believe us. No one will investigate.

No one will CARE.

Again, this may, and probably will, come to nothing but someone heard.

that is the worst offense
especially coming from elected representatives, police, prosecutors, and others in a position to de-legitimize such an accusation

that’s why i think a brave avalanche is necessary
to expose the enormity
and the pervasiveness - it already *is* your wife, daughter, etc

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fern01  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:32:49am

re: #578 HappyWarrior

Either way he’s raging at Flake.

Everyone waiting for the tweet. I doubt it will be kind to Sen Flake - but he knows that.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:32:58am

re: #576 fern01

Everyone who watched this understood what happened - yet someone has to explain it to trump. Wonder if Lindsay realised how dumb he made the president look with this statement.

you said it better

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SteelPH  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:33:18am

re: #579 jamesfirecat

Well there’s a sight for sore eyes! How ya been?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:33:22am

re: #579 jamesfirecat

Hopefully with a pop up picture book.

“Who’s that guy saying there needs to be a hearing Lindsay?”
“That’s Senator Flake, sir.”
“Flake! I thought we fired him.”
“Kelly, get me my book of children’s insult and my phone!”
“Yes, sir!”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:33:52am

re: #580 MsJ

Flakes gone soon. I can’t imagine he cares at all.

Oh I wasn’t suggesting Flake cares. Just that Trump is yelling about Flake to anyone who will care to listen.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:34:04am

re: #582 fern01

Everyone waiting for the tweet. I doubt it will be kind to Sen Flake - but he knows that.

Video. Surprisingly restrained.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:34:05am

MSNBC reporting Murkowski is on board with Flake’s proposal to delay.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:34:24am
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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:34:50am

re: #565 KGxvi

Flake could have voted “no” and it could have still gone to the floor, a la Bork. I’m not sure what else he could have done to delay the committee vote… maybe support democrats in a vote to table the vote? If that would be allowed.

The one week delay may well be because they dont have the votes to confirm and they’re trying to whip votes

Or it may well be genuine. That’s a long shot because I don’t fucking trust any of them at this point. But listening on With Friends Like These and what Rick Wilson is saying, maybe the constituent objections are getting through, maybe a wife/daughter/sister is sharing a story

I’m thinking a personal story regarding a family member perhaps.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:35:05am
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jamesfirecat  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:35:30am

re: #585 HappyWarrior

“Who’s that guy saying there needs to be a hearing Lindsay?”
“That’s Senator Flake, sir.”
“Flake! I thought we fired him.”
“Kelly, get me my book of children’s insult and my phone!”
“Yes, sir!”

I do not like this Senator Flake
I will not send him a cake
I wish that he would jump in a lake…
I do not like this Senator Flake.

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:35:43am

re: #575 Charles Johnson

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Breaded in cornflour and sautéed in Crisco

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:35:47am

Trump: OK, who are may most loyal FBI agents?
Sessions: That would be officers Grassley and Graham, sir.
Trump: Let’s go with them, then.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:36:02am

re: #592 jamesfirecat

I do not like this Senator Flake
I will not send him a cake
I wish that he would jump in a lake…
I do not like this Senator Flake.

Trump’s not smart enough to do Dr. Seuss :).

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jamesfirecat  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:36:09am

re: #591 Charles Johnson

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Another Domino falls.

If those two hang together and so do the rest of the Democrats, well put another week on the clock!

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fern01  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:38:06am

re: #583 dangerman

you said it better

You said it first - how they can support a president this dumb is beyond sane understanding.

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rhuarc  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:38:43am

Maybe Avenatti’s claim that his client will go public this weekend scared a few of them into some, at least, temporary sense?

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:38:46am

re: #561 Charles Johnson

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Just hasn’t had Hannity explain it all to him.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:39:04am
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Archangelus  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:40:12am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:40:32am

You must go read: Through a Woman’s Eyes

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:43:36am

Another heroine. This is amazing.

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Teddy's Person  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:44:07am

I think the biggest accomplishment of the current squatter in the White House is the airing of rich, white douchebags’ dirty laundry. Paul Manafort could be happily laundering money, Brett Kavanaugh could privately continue to be an abusive drunk, etc…

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:45:24am

re: #604 Teddy’s Person

I think the biggest accomplishment of the current squatter in the White House is the airing of rich, white douchebags’ dirty laundry. Paul Manafort could be happily laundering money, Brett Kavanaugh could privately continue to be an abusive drunk, etc…

Hell, Trump himself could still be building crappy hotels all over the place.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:45:30am

re: #597 fern01

You said it first - how they can support a president this dumb is beyond sane understanding.

you know the answers:
- tax cuts
- this present…thing
- and he’s actually quite easy to manipulate

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:45:31am
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ericblair  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:46:23am

re: #604 Teddy’s Person

I think the biggest accomplishment of the current squatter in the White House is the airing of rich, white douchebags’ dirty laundry. Paul Manafort could be happily laundering money, Brett Kavanaugh could privately continue to be an abusive drunk, etc…

My hope is that he is the Typhoid Mary of the deplorables.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:49:05am

re: #608 ericblair

My hope is that he is the Typhoid Mary of the deplorables.

Quarantine the entire administration party.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:50:29am

re: #607 Scottish Dragon

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He seemed so giddy yesterday. I guess someone whispered to him eventually that Kavanaugh looked bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:51:55am

re: #604 Teddy’s Person

I think the biggest accomplishment of the current squatter in the White House is the airing of rich, white douchebags’ dirty laundry. Paul Manafort could be happily laundering money, Brett Kavanaugh could privately continue to be an abusive drunk, etc…

Yep.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:52:26am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:52:45am

re: #610 HappyWarrior

He seemed so giddy yesterday. I guess someone whispered to him eventually that Kavanaugh looked bad.

Flake deflated the euphoria he felt seeing Kav scream at women and blacks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:53:37am

Joe Manchin supports Flake’s proposal

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:54:30am

re: #607 Scottish Dragon

This is a pretty startling set of comments from Trump, suggesting he is really not going to fight hard to save Kavanaugh.

If Julie Swetnick tells her story over the weekend and is as credible as I think she’ll be, Trump could very well cut Kavanaugh loose.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:54:31am

re: #612 Single-handed sailor

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Or they could find more.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:54:50am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:54:50am

re: #612 Single-handed sailor

One week give Avenatti time to let his client come forward. Yes, it does give a chance for this to clear. But it also delays Kav getting on SCOTUS.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:55:23am

re: #617 Charles Johnson

Must have been some coloring book.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:55:40am

re: #618 Belafon

One week give Avenatti time to let his client come forward. Yes, it does give a chance for this to clear. But it also delays Kav getting on SCOTUS.

The court’s new term starts on Monday too. That means there are a lot of important cases that he won’t be if confirmed ruling on.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:56:21am

re: #619 Belafon

Must have been some coloring book.

There was extra cheese on the Big Mac. Kelly told him if he ate the whole thing, he could look at the coloring book longer.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:56:23am

re: #612 Single-handed sailor

Lachlan Markay : [He basically neutered Ds’ central talking point. If the FBI finds nothing new (as is likely)]

I’d call that wishful thinking, but I have no idea what his wishes are. I think he is wrong.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:56:51am

re: #616 HappyWarrior

Or they could find more.

The FBI didn’t find money laundering or anything curious about Kavanaugh’s financial transactions. Given this record of “thorough” investigations, I wouldn’t bet the house on this (or the Senate//).

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BlueGrl21  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:57:33am

re: #615 makeitstop

If Julie Swetnick tells her story over the weekend and is as credible as I think she’ll be, Trump could very well cut Kavanaugh loose.

And now Kavanaugh sees the real Donald Trump.

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mmmirele  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:57:39am

re: #622 wrenchwench

I’d call that wishful thinking, but I have no idea what his wishes are. I think he is wrong.

If the investigation is a farce or if more women come forward and Kav is pushed on the Court, we’re one week closer to the midterms with a bunch of pissed off women.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:57:40am

re: #623 Hecuba’s daughter

The FBI didn’t find money laundering or anything curious about Kavanaugh’s financial transactions. Given this record of “thorough” investigations, I wouldn’t be the house on this (or the Senate//).

Didn’t say I was but you never know what a week can do. Something gets noticed that may have not been noticed before.

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jamesfirecat  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:58:05am

re: #622 wrenchwench

I’d call that wishful thinking, but I have no idea what his wishes are. I think he is wrong.

Given how we’ve seen the rate at which named accusers coming forward has been increasing, and we now have Doctor Ford showing that you can come forward and give a speech that resonates across much of the country/make a difference, I’d like to think we’ll see if not more direct accusers more witnesses starting to speak up.

Time is not on K’s side at the moment.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:58:21am

re: #624 BlueGrl21

And now Kavanaugh sees the real Donald Trump.

Good. I hope Kavanaugh gets to see Trump insult him and act like he barely knew him and wanted someone else anyhow. Let Kavanaugh feel like the trash he’s made women feel like.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 11:58:41am

re: #602 Belafon

You must go read: Through a Woman’s Eyes

august 25 i wrote this post
it’s about how, as a man, i am very careful when i go running.
and was in response to mollie tibbetts being attacked while running and then murdered.

- i dont fear for my own self …. i dont have to mostly
- it’s for how i may appear to others
men, women, children, young, old, … in the dark of early morning

what i do
what i dont do….

something i hadn’t thought of, that this list, “through a woman’s eyes’ contains is eye contact

i never make eye contact while running. i always look down and away - no matter who the other person is. a guy who looks like me running toward you is threatening enough.

i could literally pass people i would recognize and not realize it

i still shout out when coming up from behind and i say morning or how you doing or some encouragement to everyone

and yet….2018 america

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:00:51pm

Kavanaugh—Pulp Fiction mashup

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:01:35pm

re: #612 Single-handed sailor

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Except I think most of the pro-Kav people believe the accusations/know of his past and aren’t at all comfortable that the investigation will be a bust.

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makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:01:47pm

re: #626 HappyWarrior

Didn’t say I was but you never know what a week can do. Something gets noticed that may have not been noticed before.

Look at where we were this morning. Republicans might like to think they’re in control of all of this, but they’re really not.

Thanks to a few very brave women and focused protests, they’re looking at yet another delay. And if McConnell does say ‘fuck it’ and try to bull Kavanaugh through, the repercussions could be even worse.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:02:19pm

.re: #612 Single-handed sailor

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If Flake really wanted to send a signal on this he’d have refused to allow Kavanaugh voted out of committee. This is weak, ass covering nonsense and he’s signaling his intent to get Kavanaugh through with a thin patina of deodorant.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:02:48pm

re: #630 Barefoot Grin

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Now if the FBI could bring in Special Agent Jules Whitfield. That would be great.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:03:08pm

re: #632 makeitstop

Look at where we were this morning. Republicans might like to think they’re in control of all of this, but they’re really not.

Thanks to a few very brave women and focused protests, they’re looking at yet another delay. And if McConnell does say ‘fuck it’ and try to bull Kavanaugh through, the repercussions could be even worse.

Exactly.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:03:16pm

re: #632 makeitstop

Look at where we were this morning. Republicans might like to think they’re in control of all of this, but they’re really not.

Thanks to a few very brave women and focused protests, they’re looking at yet another delay. And if McConnell does say ‘fuck it’ and try to bull Kavanaugh through, the repercussions could be even worse.

Taking our victories where we can find them, McConnell proving how little he cares about anything but power will be a useful lesson for some.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:04:20pm

re: #636 Belafon

Taking our victories where we can find them, McConnell proving how little he cares about anything but power will be a useful lesson for some.

McConnell needs to become a boogeyman the same way he’s made Pelosi. Make Mitch McConnell the most hated Congressional official in the country.

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wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:04:39pm

re: #629 dangerman

august 25 i wrote this post
it’s about how, as a man, i am very careful when i go running.
and was in response to mollie tibbetts being attacked while running and then murdered.

- i dont fear for my own self …. i dont have to mostly
- it’s for how i may appear to others
men, women, children, young, old, … in the dark of early morning

what i do
what i dont do….

something i hadn’t thought of, that this list, “through a woman’s eyes’ contains is eye contact

i never make eye contact while running. i always look down and away - no matter who the other person is. a guy who looks like me running toward you is threatening enough.

i could literally pass people i would recognize and not realize it

i still shout out when coming up from behind and i say morning or how you doing or some encouragement to everyone

and yet….2018 america

I could never catch a bus, so I would hitchhike to high school. Until a guy who gave me a ride said, ‘Do you want to look at some magazines?’ I never hitchhiked again in this country. I started riding a bike to school.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:04:44pm

re: #603 makeitstop

Another heroine. This is amazing.

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avalanche
in their face
“numbers too big to ignore” now has real, fundamental meaning
this is way more than ‘equality’ and the ERA.

this is universal human rights
liberty for all - the freedom to go where you want and not be violated, assaulted, touched. this is bodily autonomy as much as abortion and birth control are
justice for all
‘the system’ must not get to tell these women to walk it off, shake it off, it’s not serious enough to pursue, cant we just move on.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:05:45pm

re: #633 goddamnedfrank

.

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If Flake really wanted to send a signal on this he’d have refused to allow Kavanaugh voted out of committee. This is weak, ass covering nonsense and he’s signaling his intent to get Kavanaugh through with a thin patina of deodorant.

He could have, but they also could have moved the nomination to the floor regardless of the vote in committee.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:06:01pm

re: #600 Charles Johnson

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A week is a long time (about 8 months in trumpland) for more bad news to come out about kav. They don’t really want to investigate, but that won’t stop reports from hitting the airwaves.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:06:23pm

re: #615 makeitstop

If Julie Swetnick tells her story over the weekend and is as credible as I think she’ll be, Trump could very well cut Kavanaugh loose.

would that it were…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:06:36pm
644
HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:06:50pm

re: #641 I Would Prefer Not To

A week is a long time (about 8 months in trumpland) for more bad news to come out about kav. They don’t really want to investigate, but that won’t stop reports from hitting the airwaves.

We very easily could have a new accuser. And the FBI hope will be looking at the Colorado accuser too.

645
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:08:06pm

re: #618 Belafon

One week give Avenatti time to let his client come forward. Yes, it does give a chance for this to clear. But it also delays Kav getting on SCOTUS.

there is another dimension to this
the longer this goes before, hopefully, Kav is toast, less time for another nominee

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HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:08:16pm

re: #643 Charles Johnson

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That’s what Ted Cruz was trying to do. Paint him as this poor woe is me guy instead of a partisan right wing asshole who if made to testify would probably show even more than Kavanaugh did what ugly young men and now adults they both were and are.

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ericblair  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:08:51pm

re: #623 Hecuba’s daughter

The FBI didn’t find money laundering or anything curious about Kavanaugh’s financial transactions. Given this record of “thorough” investigations, I wouldn’t bet the house on this (or the Senate//).

Anybody with a security clearance gets a background check, with the amount of legwork depending on the sensitivity. What you learn from this is that the investigators need a place to start. You start with criminal checks, credit checks, and a set of initial references. Successful money laundering isn’t going to trigger any of this, unless one of your (usually sympathetic) references tells them that you’ve got inexplicable cash or suspicious habits. They’ve got a definite window of time they go back with this, as well.

This should have been caught by the assministration’s own background investigation, which means a lot of asking the subject if there’s anything that could possibly look bad, plus a private investigator with a lot freer hand. Of course if they didn’t give a shit about it, then that’s that.

648
BlueGrl21  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:08:56pm

re: #629 dangerman

august 25 i wrote this post
it’s about how, as a man, i am very careful when i go running.
and was in response to mollie tibbetts being attacked while running and then murdered.

- i dont fear for my own self …. i dont have to mostly
- it’s for how i may appear to others
men, women, children, young, old, … in the dark of early morning

what i do
what i dont do….

something i hadn’t thought of, that this list, “through a woman’s eyes’ contains is eye contact

i never make eye contact while running. i always look down and away - no matter who the other person is. a guy who looks like me running toward you is threatening enough.

i could literally pass people i would recognize and not realize it

i still shout out when coming up from behind and i say morning or how you doing or some encouragement to everyone

and yet….2018 america

I noticed this week that I have developed my old tics again.

I startle very easily if a man I do not know extremely well touches me. I will jump and move away immediately. Not a little twitch, it’s obvious.

And I will not make eye contact with a man. Will not do it. I look down. I go submissive. That is NOT like me at all. But I’ve been doing it again.

This week has been fucking brutal. Brutal.

649
Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:09:11pm

650
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:09:53pm

re: #623 Hecuba’s daughter

The FBI didn’t find money laundering or anything curious about Kavanaugh’s financial transactions. Given this record of “thorough” investigations, I wouldn’t bet the house on this (or the Senate//).

they know what to look for / at now

thought im sure there will be some attempts to limit the investigation
i’m not sure how they’d actually do that - “you can look here, but not there…”

651
makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:10:17pm

re: #644 HappyWarrior

We very easily could have a new accuser. And the FBI hope will be looking at the Colorado accuser too.

I dunno. From the way everyone was talking about a ‘limited’ investigation, my guess is it will only encompass Ford’s accusations.

Ramirez and Swetnick will probably go the media route. Judiciary has already dismissed them, sadly.

652
ericblair  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:10:28pm

re: #644 HappyWarrior

We very easily could have a new accuser. And the FBI hope will be looking at the Colorado accuser too.

Everybody here, from Kavanaugh supporter to opponent, assumes that an FBI investigation is bad for Special K. Funny, that.

653
Skip Intro  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:10:32pm

654
MsJ  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:11:12pm

Link in the responses

655
Belafon  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:12:41pm

re: #640 Mike Lamb

He could have, but they also could have moved the nomination to the floor regardless of the vote in committee.

Yep, and this got Murkowski and Manchin to agree to delay.

656
Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:15:22pm

Two things:
1. As I and others have suggested, Kavanaugh could have short-circuited this at the beginning if he confessed that when he was young he had a drinking problem and may have engaged in inappropriate actions but he is a changed man, and that he apologizes to all he may have harmed.
2. Too many men are upset because they believe that rules have changed on them. In the early 80’s, schools had not yet been fostering the view that drunkenness doesn’t imply consent; and men don’t feel they should be punished now for behavior which they deemed acceptable back then.

657
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:16:30pm

re: #638 wrenchwench

I could never catch a bus, so I would hitchhike to high school. Until a guy who gave me a ride said, ‘Do you want to look at some magazines?’ I never hitchhiked again in this country. I started riding a bike to school.

it’s everywhere
that was my point above

it is up to women to do this heavy lifting and bring it all out into the open
this is first person/i was there ‘testimony’ and much of it is hidden/buried
men cant do it
good men can’t even help much except to be supportive

658
Talking Point Detective  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:17:45pm

re: #633 goddamnedfrank

I understand that perspective, but I don’t know if I agree. I think it shows that Flake, unlike his colleagues, is at least capable of realizing that the filibuster in the face of calls for an FBI investigation displayed dishonesty and a complete lack of accountability.

No doubt, he wants Kavanaugh confirmed, but I don’t dismiss that he at least shows a modicum of integrity on agreeing that the excuses for not calling for an investigation were a complete joke. At least one of them was willing to acknowledge the lack of accountability, at least to some extent. In these bleak times, I take some small measure of positivity from that. The naked display of corrupt power was very disturbing to me: they were saying that they wouldn’t do something that was legitimately called for, simply because they couldn’t be forced into doing so. At least Flake took a small step back from that.

659
BlueGrl21  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:18:45pm

re: #657 dangerman

it’s everywhere
that was my point above

it is up to women to do this heavy lifting and bring it all out into the open
this is first person/i was there ‘testimony’ and much of it is hidden/buried
men cant do it
good men can’t even help much except to be supportive

Yes. This is our battle to fight. Men can’t and shouldn’t do anything except support us.

660
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:19:17pm

re: #646 HappyWarrior

That’s what Ted Cruz was trying to do. Paint him as this poor woe is me guy instead of a partisan right wing asshole who if made to testify would probably show even more than Kavanaugh did what ugly young men and now adults they both were and are.

so the only people who get to testify are people with “unblemished characters’ or whatever they called Kav

661
Talking Point Detective  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:19:29pm

re: #653 Skip Intro

Do you think that might just be a bit homophobic?

[edit]. Not to suggest that Graham isn’t ripe for ridicule

662
Scottish Dragon  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:21:00pm

re: #651 makeitstop

I dunno. From the way everyone was talking about a ‘limited’ investigation, my guess is it will only encompass Ford’s accusations.

Ramirez and Swetnick will probably go the media route. Judiciary has already dismissed them, sadly.

Avenatti will make it very difficult for the FBI to ignore his client.

663
wrenchwench  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:21:05pm

re: #657 dangerman

it’s everywhere
that was my point above

it is up to women to do this heavy lifting and bring it all out into the open
this is first person/i was there ‘testimony’ and much of it is hidden/buried
men cant do it
good men can’t even help much except to be supportive

Men have the heavier lifting. The stigma and other powers at work keeping them quiet about their abuse are stronger, if not equal. There are fewer, so each one is more needed. We need to support each other.

664
HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:21:11pm

re: #653 Skip Intro

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Lindsay does declare that Judge Kavanaugh is a fine gentleman of the finest schools and family.

665
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:21:52pm

re: #647 ericblair

Anybody with a security clearance gets a background check, with the amount of legwork depending on the sensitivity. What you learn from this is that the investigators need a place to start. You start with criminal checks, credit checks, and a set of initial references. Successful money laundering isn’t going to trigger any of this, unless one of your (usually sympathetic) references tells them that you’ve got inexplicable cash or suspicious habits. They’ve got a definite window of time they go back with this, as well.

This should have been caught by the assministration’s own background investigation
, which means a lot of asking the subject if there’s anything that could possibly look bad, plus a private investigator with a lot freer hand. Of course if they didn’t give a shit about it, then that’s that.

i’ve said mcgahn and his team either:
- screwed up and didnt ask and / or find this stuff
- knew and hoped no one else would find out

or kav lied to them directly

666
Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:22:12pm

The sad part is that this nomination should have been derailed well before the accusations of bad personal behavior. His behavior as a judge and the lack of disclosure on his record during the Bush administration should have prevented the confirmation.

667
makeitstop  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:24:06pm

re: #656 Hecuba’s daughter

Two things:
1. As I and others have suggested, Kavanaugh could have short-circuited this at the beginning if he confessed that when he was young he had a drinking problem and may have engaged in inappropriate actions but he is a changed man, and that he apologizes to all he may have harmed.

That’s what I don’t get about this whole thing. If they had just gone by procedure and not tried to bull their way through, Kavanaugh might have been confirmed last week and getting ready to take his seat in the new session. But by trying to run roughshod over the entire process, they’re no further along than they were two weeks ago, and now they’ve got a substantially weakened nominee. Hell, Trump’s even started to wobble in his support by handing the whole thing off to the Senate.

Owning the libs is a hell of a drug, I guess. These guys can’t resist it.

668
HappyWarrior  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:24:41pm

re: #666 Hecuba’s daughter

The sad part is that this nomination should have been derailed well before the accusations of bad personal behavior. His behavior as a judge and the lack of disclosure on his record during the Bush administration should have prevented the confirmation.

Went from being Bork bad to if Bork were a creep as well as a partisan hack and bad judge and bigot.

669
Talking Point Detective  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:25:35pm

re: #653 Skip Intro
re: #643 Charles Johnson

We will hear about Judge’s health problems from the same people who ridiculed Ford as a snowflake for being traumatized by attempted rape (boys will be boys).

670
BlueGrl21  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:26:01pm

re: #667 makeitstop

That’s what I don’t get about this whole thing. If they had just gone by procedure and not tried to bull their way through, Kavanaugh might have been confirmed last week and getting ready to take his seat in the new session. But by trying to run roughshod over the entire process, they’re no further along than they were two weeks ago, and now they’ve got a substantially weakened nominee. Hell, Trump’s even started to wobble in his support by handing the whole thing off to the Senate.

Owning the libs is a hell of a drug, I guess. These guys can’t resist it.

Fear of the midterms and the man baby in the White House.

671
Talking Point Detective  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:27:17pm

re: #665 dangerman

Is unlikely that they would investigate that far back.

m.dailykos.com

672
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:31:26pm

re: #648 BlueGrl21

I noticed this week that I have developed my old tics again.

I startle very easily if a man I do not know extremely well touches me. I will jump and move away immediately. Not a little twitch, it’s obvious.

And I will not make eye contact with a man. Will not do it. I look down. I go submissive. That is NOT like me at all. But I’ve been doing it again.

This week has been fucking brutal. Brutal.

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dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:38:11pm

re: #656 Hecuba’s daughter

Two things:
1. As I and others have suggested, Kavanaugh could have short-circuited this at the beginning if he confessed that when he was young he had a drinking problem and may have engaged in inappropriate actions but he is a changed man, and that he apologizes to all he may have harmed.
2. Too many men are upset because they believe that rules have changed on them. In the early 80’s, schools had not yet been fostering the view that drunkenness doesn’t imply consent; and men don’t feel they should be punished now for behavior which they deemed acceptable back then.

he is not being punished
he’s not been charged with anything (yet)
the information has come to light and it’s being evaluated in context of his nomination

-before he was nominated he was just fine….

what ‘punished’ means to them is if it’s been ‘buried’ this long, the ‘victims’ should never speak

the problem for them is ‘i got away with it up to now’ doesnt mean ‘i didnt do anything’

674
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:43:31pm

re: #666 Hecuba’s daughter

The sad part is that this nomination should have been derailed well before the accusations of bad personal behavior. His behavior as a judge and the lack of disclosure on his record during the Bush administration should have prevented the confirmation.

like lots of other areas of life, you have to check all the boxes or the deal doesnt close

this is just happening out of the order of the checklist
they checked the box and jumped over the character part to the judicial part
they thought they were done here

they thought wrong

675
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:44:04pm

re: #667 makeitstop

That’s what I don’t get about this whole thing. If they had just gone by procedure and not tried to bull their way through, Kavanaugh might have been confirmed last week and getting ready to take his seat in the new session. But by trying to run roughshod over the entire process, they’re no further along than they were two weeks ago, and now they’ve got a substantially weakened nominee. Hell, Trump’s even started to wobble in his support by handing the whole thing off to the Senate.

Owning the libs is a hell of a drug, I guess. These guys can’t resist it.

dont help them

676
dangerman  Sep 28, 2018 • 12:50:17pm

re: #671 Talking Point Detective

Is unlikely that they would investigate that far back.

m.dailykos.com

not the fbi - im suggesting something else

you know there’s that early meeting “so we’re thinking of…. is there anything we need to know…..”

presumably he said no, they accepted it and moved on

that this all came out so quickly and easily and isnt done yet is proof that they all got this wrong

so mcgahn should have at least verified the “no” - cause we know clearly now that Kav lied to him

or Kav said “yes but it was so long ago” and they all thought it would stay buried
ie Mcgahn knew.

677
Talking Point Detective  Sep 28, 2018 • 1:06:13pm

re: #676 dangerman

How would they verify the no in this case? But I agree to the extent that they probably weren’t interested in any comprehensive background check. They probably just assumed he was viable (based on his credentials) and didn’t give a shit about anything else because of his judicial philosophy.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2018 • 2:32:43pm

re: #630 Barefoot Grin

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Kavanaugh—Pulp Fiction mashup

Ah, I was going to post that. Did you know it got a prominent retweet/share by one Elijah Wood? Frodo lives!


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