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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2018 • 8:38:24pm

The dog poison company joke made me laugh so hard I nearly spit.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2018 • 8:40:21pm
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jaunte  Oct 4, 2018 • 8:51:00pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2018 • 8:56:30pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 4, 2018 • 8:59:25pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:02:22pm

This cartoon is art therapy:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:16:12pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:17:40pm

Well, that wasn’t the tweet I wanted to put up. This was the tweet I wanted to put up. I don’t really wish ill on people, but I would not be sad if this guy shuffled off this mortal coil and the world political stage.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:21:52pm
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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:22:07pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Well, that wasn’t the tweet I wanted to put up. This was the tweet I wanted to put up. I don’t really wish ill on people, but I would not be sad if this guy shuffled off this mortal coil and the world political stage.

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Dick cancer, metastasizing to his testicles and rectum would be appropriate for that travesty of a human being.

Dog’s revenge on assholes.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:27:02pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:30:53pm
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can't think of a decent username  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:31:19pm

Hey, just saw this from the previous thread.

re: #304 wheat-dogg

Damn. MAD magazine speaking truth.

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Could I just say I think William Gaines, the founder of Mad Magazine, way back in the olden days, would be incredibly, incredibly proud of that cartoon?

That cartoon deserves an Eisner award, a Harvey, a Reuben, and probably a Pulitzer.

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:39:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:43:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:44:39pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

Dafuq?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:46:03pm

Founder of Wonkette Anna Marie Cox weighs in on Judge Kavanaugh’s op-ed (five tweets):

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:46:32pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:46:38pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

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That’s as likely as me winning the Miss America contest, Lindsey.

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:49:26pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:50:23pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

I haven’t seen many in my life. (As a pre-teen I got to see Watergate.)

As a reminder, Anna Marie Cox put Wonkette on the map by exposing then Senator Mike DeWine’s sex-for-bribes scandal under W.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:51:46pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

How long have Jacob Javitz and Everett Dirksen been dead?

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jaunte  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:53:27pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2018 • 9:57:28pm

re: #23 jaunte

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There are thousands more just like him. I expected the assassinations not to start until after the election, but the RWNJs seem so invested in this Kavanaugh confirmation, I fully expect all hell to break loose if he loses.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:00:07pm

Liz Cheney (R-Wyo. at-large) says she’s never seen anything as evil as the attacks on Kavanaugh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:01:05pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

Possibly in some state government positions but not in Washington DC.

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:04:26pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

It’s funny that her and her family have a bunch of property and ties to Teton County, and Teton County was the only county in Wyoming to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

The skiing there is pretty fuckin’ fun.

Instagram

Big Red Cabin 1, Tower 5, big cliffs, Jackson Hole, WY.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:05:13pm

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

Liz Cheney (R-Wyo. at-large) says she’s never seen anything as evil as the attacks on Kavanaugh.

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They don’t seem to be “attacks” but simple statements of fact. He DID these things, and he must pay for them, the little sniveling coward.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:05:29pm

re: #23 jaunte

Ahh, a genius of clandestine wetwork, use your own name, announce your plan, and tell the whole world about the secret tunnel where you plan to hide from the feds.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:06:14pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

It’s funny that her and her family have a bunch of property and ties to Teton County, and Teton County was the only county in Wyoming to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

The skiing there is pretty fuckin’ fun.

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And they got all the damned snow last year.

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:10:03pm

re: #30 austin_blue

And they got all the damned snow last year.

When I showed up in the middle of March last winter they were already at 400+ inches on the season. Coverage was very good. I had excellent laps in the Alta Chutes and Tower 3 Chutes. Follow the fall line, like a beach ball. And I could do it on slopes that approached 50°, right underneath the fuckin’ lifts! It was glorious.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:13:25pm

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

Possibly in some state government positions but not in Washington DC.

Our long-time Secretary of State (up to 2012), Sam Reed, was a Republican, but he did everything he could to make voting easier and encourage turnout.

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austin_blue  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:14:06pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ahh, a genius of clandestine wetwork, use your own name, announce your plan, and tell the whole world about the secret tunnel where you plan to hide from the feds.

Dumber than a box of hammers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:15:04pm

Democrats continuing to catch up in the early voting requests in Nebraska:

Early Vote Requests for 10/4
Democrats: 1,093
Nonpartisan: 364
Republicans: 1,399
Unknown: 14
Total People: 2,870

Early Vote Requests to date:
Democrats: 20,407
Nonpartisan: 6,439
Republican: 24,041
Unknown: 220
Total People: 51,107

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:16:00pm

re: #24 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There are thousands more just like him. I expected the assassinations not to start until after the election, but the RWNJs seem so invested in this Kavanaugh confirmation, I fully expect all hell to break loose if he loses.

I’m ready! I live in a fortress, the Kirel Supreme Global Command Center and Conspiracy Compound. It is in the howling wilderness west of the nethermost suburban fringes of the DFW metroplex. It is surrounded by genetically enhanced killer coyotes, treacherous thigh-high cacti, angry rattlesnakes, giant wingnut-eating feral pigs, and heavily armed weirdos the like of which has not been seen in public since the release of Deliverance. I am thinking about importing a troop of baboons or some Russian wolves to provide additional help with unwelcome visitors.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:18:10pm

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m ready! I live in a fortress, the Kirel Supreme Global Command Center and Conspiracy Compound. It is in the howling wilderness west of the nethermost suburban fringes of the DFW metroplex. It is surrounded by genetically enhanced killer coyotes, treacherous thigh-high cacti, angry rattlesnakes, giant wingnut-eating feral pigs, and heavily armed weirdos the like of which has not been seen in public since the release of Deliverance. I am thinking about importing a troop of baboons or some Russian wolves to provide additional help with unwelcome visitors.

What? No, frickin’ lasers?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:19:26pm

re: #36 wheat-dogg

What? No, frickin’ lasers?

No sharks involved.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:20:16pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

No sharks involved.

Too far from the water. Besides, sharks will not attack wingnuts. Professional courtesy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:23:49pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

No.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:25:27pm

re: #32 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Our long-time Secretary of State (up to 2012), Sam Reed, was a Republican, but he did everything he could to make voting easier and encourage turnout.

There was Chuck Hagel who was Obama’s Secretary of Defense; Michael Bloomberg who did win NY mayor as a Republican. Our governor Jim Edgar in the 1990’s was fine and though he went to prison for his crimes as Secretary of State, George Ryan was OK as governor — he started us on the path to eliminating the death penalty in Illinois.

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sagehen  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:27:45pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

Depends — do we count people who used to be Republican but changed their registration in the last couple of years?

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:28:19pm

re: #40 Hecuba’s daughter

There was Chuck Hagel who was Obama’s Secretary of Defense; Michael Bloomberg who did win NY mayor as a Republican. Our governor Jim Edgar in the 1990’s was fine and though he went to prison for his crimes as Secretary of State, George Ryan was OK as governor — he started us on the path to eliminating the death penalty in Illinois.

But for current officeholders — don’t see any at level of governor or in Washington.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:28:50pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:34:13pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:37:28pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:43:14pm

Salt……..

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danarchy  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:43:57pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

Are there any decent Republicans left?

Anyone? Bueller?

Charlie Baker, he is a republican up by 30 points in MA. You don’t do that by being a douchebag.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:53:25pm

Waiting to hear from Q about the hidden meaning behind the piece of toilet paper stuck to the President’s left shoe as he boarded Air Force One.

I’ve got Filipino cheese and corn ice cream and Netflix to kill the time….

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Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:54:31pm

Here’s a conversation piece for the Thanksgiving table.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 10:57:20pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:01:57pm

The guy arrested in Winter Haven, Fla. for threatening to shoot senators and their families if Kavanaugh is not confirmed was the same guy who suggested Trump should hit Hillary Clinton on the head with a hammer during the debates.

heavy.com

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wheat-dogg  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:04:08pm

I swear, every single day, something comes out of this administration that promises to make my life even more challenging.

It’s like they don’t even consider how their decisions might affect real-world people living in the real world, where a foreign government might suddenly decide an American is a dangerous foreign agent and locks him or her up for no cause. Basically, they’re hanging expats out to dry.

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teleskiguy  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:08:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:15:40pm

Pressure is apparently rising here …

omaha.com

Senators Deb Fischer (R-Nebr) and Joni Earnst (R-Iowa) say they still back Kavanaugh, at least for now. (Omaha World-Herald)

Or, kayfabe, take your pick.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:28:16pm

us-cert.gov

FTC issues alert to Facebook users on how to protect themselves against identity theft after a breach of data at Facebook.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:38:36pm
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sagehen  Oct 4, 2018 • 11:40:33pm

a weird (maybe?) hypothesis:

Is it possible Squi set her up? Brought her to the house as a party favor for his pals, she had no idea, just boys playing pranks amongst themselves and they see the girl as an object they don’t even think about? Gave her a beer, maybe with something extra in it…

I got to thinking about this after being reminded about one of the subplots in Sixteen Candles, where a guy (the hero!) did something like that to a girl he’d grown bored with… and realizing that if this guy she used to go out with was downstairs, and she’s not sure how she got home…

(which, y’know, doesn’t at all excuse that Kavenaugh and Judge were apparently so drunk they have no memory of the event, or it was so routine they forgot about it ages ago, and that conspiracy rant in his prepared remarks was OMG so not impartial or judicial temperament…)

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2018 • 12:19:42am

Amateur hour with nerve gas what the fuck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 12:22:55am

GRU knows that it has little or nothing to fear from the US government andthe UK gov is in too much of a shambles over Brexit to do much against them.

Did they name themselves after the bad guy from Despicable Me or vice-versa?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2018 • 12:23:53am
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austin_blue  Oct 5, 2018 • 12:43:22am

re: #57 sagehen

a weird (maybe?) hypothesis:

Is it possible Squi set her up? Brought her to the house as a party favor for his pals, she had no idea, just boys playing pranks amongst themselves and they see the girl as an object they don’t even think about? Gave her a beer, maybe with something extra in it…

I got to thinking about this after being reminded about one of the subplots in Sixteen Candles, where a guy (the hero!) did something like that to a girl he’d grown bored with… and realizing that if this guy she used to go out with was downstairs, and she’s not sure how she got home…

(which, y’know, doesn’t at all excuse that Kavenaugh and Judge were apparently so drunk they have no memory of the event, or it was so routine they forgot about it ages ago, and that conspiracy rant in his prepared remarks was OMG so not impartial or judicial temperament…)

Or maybe he’s just a drunk, entitled asshole that took a swing at a 15 year old girl.

Occam’s razor.

I suggested last night that Turkey Neck didn’t have the votes, that his whip info wasn’t solid. I’ll say again that’s the case. Lots of shaky R’s on this. They know he’s a disaster and they could lose both the House AND the Senate in a month. Which would suck for the money behind the R’s. They are perfectly aware what losing the Legislative branch would mean for them. Kavanaugh is a pawn to them. Kicking him to the curb to maintain the current tax laws is a winning strategy for them. There are a million Kavanaughs out there, but control of tax policy is a Really Big Thing to American Oligarchs.

They really don’t care much about abortion, or immigration, or health care policy, or the changing racial demographics of the country because it doesn’t affect them. It really doesn’t affect them at all. They are so far above that level of petty bickering that it’s background noise. They just want to maintain control, so they pump money into organizations and groups who DO care about those issues. And cause chaos.

Take a look tomorrow at new names that show up in the “wavering” category, especially R women Senators who haven’t made the news, those not named Collins and Murkowski. I think this nom is about to fall apart. And it should. He’s poison, at this point. And the fact that the FBI “investigation” didn’t look into his financials is a travesty.

And I’m off to bed. Good night dear Lizards. Sweet scaly dreams.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 12:44:51am

Southern Charm’s Cameran Eubanks Deletes Flu Shot Photo After Coming Under Fire from Anti-Vaxxers (People)

Cameran Eubanks has deleted a photo of herself getting a flu shot after coming under fire from those who are opposed to vaccinations.

On Thursday, the Southern Charm reality star, 34, posted a picture of her bandage after getting a flu shot vaccine with an Instagram caption encouraging people to get one. However, hours later, the mother of one deleted the post.

“I just deleted a post that I made today about my belief in getting the flu shot. Never did I think it would cause such a fuss. I’m sorry to all I offended who don’t believe in vaccinating themselves and their children,” Eubanks wrote in a statement.

“If you do not vaccinate I do not think you are stupid or wrong. We just disagree. I have always said I will not talk about religion or politics on social media and now I’m adding vaccines too,” the former Real World star concluded her statement.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 12:49:12am

Vccination is not a matter of religious belief or political affiliation. It is a matter of health and social/personal responsibility.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:05:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:08:26am

The eventual plan is to privatize the entire US military and contract it out to Blackwater as ole cost-plus bidder.

Cooperating with Cina would cut overhead costs and personnel expenditures and save taxpayers’ money.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:35:52am

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:36:46am

re: #66 Dave In Austin

“Nancy Devos?”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:38:24am

re: #64 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Vccination is not a matter of religious belief or political affiliation. It is a matter of health and social/personal responsibility.

That makes it a matter of religious belief (to the religious). No vaccines in the Bible.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:39:12am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹

Lemme amend the above: to Biblical literalists.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 5, 2018 • 1:51:10am

Speaking of Nazis……

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 2:21:40am

re: #61 Dave In Austin

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Whoa:

Lacking a raptor’s talons, Loggerhead Shrikes skewer their kills on thorns or barbed wire or wedge them into tight places for easy eating.

allaboutbirds.org

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 5, 2018 • 2:28:52am

The wingnuts are going to be very disappointed Trump didn’t win.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2018 • 2:33:54am

re: #4 teleskiguy

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No one, including Black people, should use that word. There’s nothing cool or affirming about it. It shouldn’t even need to be said.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 2:43:03am

re: #74 Single-handed sailor

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The wingnuts are going to be very disappointed Trump didn’t win.

I relieved that I don’t need to jump out my window.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 2:43:34am

re: #75 Patricia Kayden

No one, including Black people, should use that word. There’s nothing cool or affirming about it. It shouldn’t even need to be said.

Never say never, it is all a matter of context.

Having said that, there are very few contexts in which it is not demeaning or offensive.

I can really only think of one: the character N***** Jim from Huckleberry Finn. Some editors tried to “clean it up” by changing his name to “The Slave Jim” but that totally derails a central quote: “I used to be a slave but I will be a n****** for the rest of my life.”

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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 2:52:31am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:06:12am

China’s mainland government is increasing its pressure on Hong Kong to conform to Party rules.

This is a big deal, because China promised during the handover that it would respect the laws of Hong Kong: “one country, two systems.” Instead (as anyone who lives in China would expect), they have been steadily eroding the relative independence promised Hong Kong, and making it conform to mainland laws. While HK issues its own visas, it’s clear that Beijing has pressured HK immigration officials to deny this visa on political grounds.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:20:06am

re: #79 wheat-dogg

China’s mainland government is increasing its pressure on Hong Kong to conform to Party rules.

This is a big deal, because China promised during the handover that it would respect the laws of Hong Kong: “one country, two systems.” Instead (as anyone who lives in China would expect), they have been steadily eroding the relative independence promised Hong Kong, and making it conform to mainland laws. While HK issues its own visas, it’s clear that Beijing has pressured HK immigration officials to deny this visa on political grounds.

I pretty much figured that would happen. When the United Kingdom agreed to the handover and China agreed not to meddle for at least fifty years, the United Kingdom pretty much had no leverage left. What’s the UK going to do, go to war with China over treaty violations?

I presume the same sort of thing will happen in Macao, and Portugal won’t be able to do anything either.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:30:12am

re: #74 Single-handed sailor

The wingnuts are going to be very disappointed Trump didn’t win.

Moreover, both worked to end sexual violence as a weapon of war, and are not white.

Will Trump go after them on Twitter? Stay tuned …

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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:30:59am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

I pretty much figured that would happen. When the United Kingdom agreed to the handover and China agreed not to meddle for at least fifty years, the United Kingdom pretty much had no leverage left. What’s the UK going to do, go to war with China over treaty violations?

I presume the same sort of thing will happen in Macao, and Portugal won’t be able to do anything either.

Macao has been less problematic than HK, as far as Beijing is concerned. The party’s biggest concern there is clamping down on high-rollers from the mainland using Macao to smuggle their cash out of China proper. Macao has not had the same history of political activism as HK has, and it also has a smaller resident population.

One important thing to know about China is its unreliability when it comes to written contracts, agreements or treaties. China will seemingly agree to stipulations demanded by outsiders, then after some time ignore them. They’re a lot like Trump in that regard. China is only about China, and the Party doesn’t give a crap about anyone else.

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steve_davis  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:33:03am

re: #12 Single-handed sailor

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stop using weasel language. The british aren’t accusing the Russians of doing this. They caught them absolutely red-handed in the act. Saying that the British are accusing the Russians of this is like saying the cops are accusing 3 bank robbers caught in the vault of trying to rob the joint.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:35:52am

RCMP “astonished” to be targeted in a Russian cyberattack.

cbc.ca

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steve_davis  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:39:11am

re: #35 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m ready! I live in a fortress, the Kirel Supreme Global Command Center and Conspiracy Compound. It is in the howling wilderness west of the nethermost suburban fringes of the DFW metroplex. It is surrounded by genetically enhanced killer coyotes, treacherous thigh-high cacti, angry rattlesnakes, giant wingnut-eating feral pigs, and heavily armed weirdos the like of which has not been seen in public since the release of Deliverance. I am thinking about importing a troop of baboons or some Russian wolves to provide additional help with unwelcome visitors.

meanwhile, I hold down the studio fort here in South Carolina. My bed is actually just those creepy vampire groupies from the Val Kilmer Dracula movie, but they have sweet thighs that they use when rolling my cigar for me. Sadly, at my age, I can’t roll my cigar more than once a week, and normally only if I’ve taken the full regimen of multi-vitamins beforehand.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:44:20am

re: #85 steve_davis

meanwhile, I hold down the studio fort here in South Carolina. My bed is actually just those creepy vampire groupies from the Val Kilmer Dracula movie, but they have sweet thighs that they use when rolling my cigar for me. Sadly, at my age, I can’t roll my cigar more than once a week, and normally only if I’ve taken the full regimen of multi-vitamins beforehand.

Meanwhile, I’m in a position to collect tumbleweeds to build a rampart to protect Chez Tumbleweed on the High Plains. I realise that ramparts made of tumbleweeds aren’t quite as strong as those made of, say, virtually anything else, and my house is not nearly as well built as a castle, but hey, maybe a stack of tumbleweeds will be enough to ward off rampaging hordes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 3:55:17am

re: #81 Anymouse 🌹

Moreover, both worked to end sexual violence as a weapon of war, and are not white.

Will Trump go after them on Twitter? Stay tuned …

and it is an awful time for soldiers all over the world, they have to worry about being accused of war crimes they did not commit…

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steve_davis  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:00:05am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

I pretty much figured that would happen. When the United Kingdom agreed to the handover and China agreed not to meddle for at least fifty years, the United Kingdom pretty much had no leverage left. What’s the UK going to do, go to war with China over treaty violations?

I presume the same sort of thing will happen in Macao, and Portugal won’t be able to do anything either.

as the chinese continually point out, the Brits did basically steal Hong Kong, so they didn’t really have any choice but to hand it back over, eventually.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:05:03am

re: #83 steve_davis

stop using weasel language. The british aren’t accusing the Russians of doing this. They caught them absolutely red-handed in the act. Saying that the British are accusing the Russians of this is like saying the cops are accusing 3 bank robbers caught in the vault of trying to rob the joint.

a) the British government is in a shambles over Brexit

b) the Truth and the ability to act on viable information is in ruins as a result of Fake News, meddling and hacking.

c) the Russians have the goods on Trump and can count on him not intervening.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:09:51am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:15:48am

Rick Wiles (of the oxymoronic Christian podcast TruNews) thinks that Dr. Christine Ford is really a crypto CIA mind-control assassin, and all “leftists” are also hypnotised by the CIA as well (willingly).

Goes to Utah Outcasts (9:50)

Rick Wiles Thinks Dr. Ford is a CIA Hypno Assassin

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:24:06am

re: #82 wheat-dogg

Macao has been less problematic than HK, as far as Beijing is concerned. The party’s biggest concern there is clamping down on high-rollers from the mainland using Macao to smuggle their cash out of China proper. Macao has not had the same history of political activism as HK has, and it also has a smaller resident population.

One important thing to know about China is its unreliability when it comes to written contracts, agreements or treaties. China will seemingly agree to stipulations demanded by outsiders, then after some time ignore them. They’re a lot like Trump in that regard. China is only about China, and the Party doesn’t give a crap about anyone else.

Kinda knew it was over for Hong Kong when the party started to demand that all candidates be pre-approved and independent booksellers started to disappear (literally in some cases).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:30:15am

Polk County, Fla. Sheriff Grady Judd says the reports of the wingnut in Winter Haven having tunnels under his house are untrue (which was based on the guy’s Facebook post).

That guy is on jail on $500,000 bond. (What? Threatening to kill senators and their families should get you no bond.)

The Lakeland (Fla.) Ledger has the latest details of the case.

theledger.com

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:33:45am

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹

Polk County, Fla. Sheriff Grady Judd says the reports of the wingnut in Winter Haven having tunnels under his house are untrue (which was based on the guy’s Facebook post).

That guy is on jail on $500,000 bond. (What? Threatening to kill senators and their families should get you no bond.)

The Lakeland (Fla.) Ledger has the latest details of the case.

theledger.com

Defense: this is what liberals made me do! ////

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:36:46am
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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:37:22am

re: #74 Single-handed sailor

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The wingnuts are going to be very disappointed Trump didn’t win.

TRUMP SHOULD HAVE WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:39:27am

re: #96 b.d.(sober as a judge)

TRUMP SHOULD HAVE WON THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!!!

Maybe if we offer him the Nobel Piece Prize they will be satisfied.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:41:29am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Maybe if we offer him the Nobel Piece Prize they will be satisfied.

Trump will probably make up some new prize to award to himself.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:43:57am

New York State has no statue of limitations on back taxes. It appears the state may seek $400 million from Donald Trump. New York City is still looking into arrears city taxes.

shareblue.com

The worst thing that could have happened to Trump, his family, and his business empire seems to be winning the election.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:44:44am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

New York State has no statue of limitations on back taxes. It appears the state may seek $400 million from Donald Trump. New York City is still looking into arrears city taxes.

shareblue.com

The worst thing that could have happened to Trump, his family, and his business empire seems to be winning the election.

LOL, the Russians aren’t going to save him this time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:49:50am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

New York State has no statue of limitations on back taxes. It appears the state may seek $400 million from Donald Trump. New York City is still looking into arrears city taxes.

shareblue.com

The worst thing that could have happened to Trump, his family, and his business empire seems to be winning the election.

I am sure that Justice Kavanaugh will vote in favor of a law that allows the President to pardon himself from back tax bills…

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:51:11am

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that Justice Kavanaugh will vote in favor of a law that allows the President to pardon himself from back tax bills…

IT HAPPENED OVER 35 YEARS AGO! HE WAS JUST A KID!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 4:55:50am

Political dynasties suddenly not bad:

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:02:54am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

Political dynasties suddenly not bad:

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He’ll be in jail

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Weaselone  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:04:04am

re: #47 danarchy

Charlie Baker, he is a republican up by 30 points in MA. You don’t do that by being a douchebag.

Baker is more of an illustration about the low bar set for Republican politicians. There’s nothing particularly special about him. He shows up for photo ops, generally doesn’t do egregiously stupid stuff and says something in opposition to Trump from time to time. There’s nothing about him or his job performance that justifies a 30 point lead.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:04:45am

WTF. I just got another Presidential Alert.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:05:48am

Trump starts the day retweeting the fake James Woods account.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:09:37am

More shade from the dictionary?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:14:00am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

Trump starts the day retweeting the fake James Woods account.

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there are some grains of truth in here: it was (hopefully) a fluke, a man hijacking a political party and manipulating the electoral system to turn a popular vote loss into an electoral college victory.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:33:12am

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jeffreyw  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:33:45am

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Good morning!

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Weaselone  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:37:20am

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

The shitty irony in that cartoon is that Republican women are the group most likely to disbelieve Ford’s testimony.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:40:54am

re: #74 Single-handed sailor

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The wingnuts are going to be very disappointed Trump didn’t win.

Here’s hoping they jump out of buildings like Lindsey believed liberals would.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:47:33am

re: #112 Weaselone

The shitty irony in that cartoon is that Republican women are the group most likely to disbelieve Ford’s testimony.

Because the GOP successfuly spun the narrative into a he-said-she-said story instead of a matter of BK’s suitability for office.

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Weaselone  Oct 5, 2018 • 5:52:27am

re: #114 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because the GOP successfuly spun the narrative into a he-said-she-said story instead of a matter of BK’s suitability for office.

It takes little effort for the GOP to spin. They have an audience willing to lap their BS up. They’ve spent decades poisoning their base, the narrative they put out hardly matters now.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:00:14am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:00:54am

re: #106 Sufficient unto the day…

WTF. I just got another Presidential Alert.

What’s it say?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:00:55am

re: #115 Weaselone

It takes little effort for the GOP to spin. They have an audience willing to lap their BS up. They’ve spent decades poisoning their base, the narrative they put out hardly matters now.

The poll of Senators in Salon was worded in terms of “belives Ford” vs “believes Kavanaugh”

which is not the point

The question is whether they think that BK is qualified and suitable for a lifetime appointment to a Constitutional body.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:08:10am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:09:32am

The Chinese head of Interpol flew to China last month and hasn’t been heard from since. He’s reportedly under investigation in China.

It is not yet clear why Meng is being investigated or exactly where he is being held.

French police said earlier they had launched a search for Meng after being contacted by his wife, news agencies reported.

Interpol said on Friday it was aware of reports of Meng’s “alleged disappearance” and that the issue was a matter for the relevant authorities in France and China.

The organisation’s secretary general, not Meng, was responsible for the day-to-day running of Interpol, it said.

“Interpol’s General Secretariat headquarters will not comment further,” it said.

The official was last seen in France on September 29, police sources said.

scmp.com

Meng was a member of the Communist Party Committee of the Ministry of Public Security, but he lost that seat in April, according to the SCMP article. So, perhaps he has fallen out of favor with the leadership or gotten caught up in some anti-corruption probe.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:15:25am

Soros! Drink!

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:16:40am

re: #121 makeitstop

Soros! Drink!

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Also - ‘signs made in the basement from love?’ The hell is that?

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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:16:48am

re: #121 makeitstop

Soros! Drink!

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Until Soros pays me the Soros bucks I am owed, I can’t afford to drink.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:16:54am

re: #120 wheat-dogg

The Chinese head of Interpol flew to China last month and hasn’t been heard from since. He’s reportedly under investigation in China.

scmp.com

Meng was a member of the Communist Party Committee of the Ministry of Public Security, but he lost that seat in April, according to the SCMP article. So, perhaps he has fallen out of favor with the leadership or gotten caught up in some anti-corruption probe.

I listened to a fascinating podcast last week (with a lot of speculation, necessarily) that some in the upper echelons like Jiang Zemin are starting to push back against Xi Jingping out of fear that he’s trying to create another Mao-like cult of personality. Seems like there may be some factional housecleaning going on?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:18:05am

re: #121 makeitstop

Soros! Drink!

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That’s rich. From the guy who paid actors.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:21:47am

Soros brought me a cup of coffee!

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:21:55am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:23:37am

Russia’s first sex robot brothel opens in Moscow offering dolls with heated privates who’ll ‘talk dirty’ and ‘moan with pleasure’ (Scottish Sun)

THE first robot sex doll brothel in Russia has opened its doors and is offering a range of raunchy models.

The LumiDolls franchise, which already has establishments in Barcelona in Spain and Turin in Italy, has now set up shop in the capital Moscow.

Way creepier than a realdoll. They’re cartoonish. I don’t like living in the 21st century anymore.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:30:21am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:32:17am

re: #124 Barefoot Grin

I listened to a fascinating podcast last week (with a lot of speculation, necessarily) that some in the upper echelons like Jiang Zemin are starting to push back against Xi Jingping out of fear that he’s trying to create another Mao-like cult of personality. Seems like there may be some factional housecleaning going on?

Yeah, there are factions within the Party, though the public perception is of one big happy Party. Xi seems to lead the more Mao-ist, China First faction, and he’s been using his anti-corruption office to weed out Party members outside that faction. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao are more moderate and less nationalistic than Xi, and being older are nervous about Xi becoming the next Mao aka dictator for life.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:34:19am

re: #122 makeitstop

Also - ‘signs made in the basement from love?’ The hell is that?

Right…we all know the basement is limited to 400 lb. hackers!

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:38:41am

Nothing like telling the world that your vote depends on the tides.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:40:46am

re: #117 wheat-dogg

It’s another one of the tests. I’m glad I was off tonight, otherwise it would have woke me up…and I would have been…annoyed.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:55:14am
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:56:09am

re: #132 b.d.(sober as a judge)

Nothing like telling the world that your vote depends on the tides.

If I lived in West Virginia, I would keep bombarding Manchin with two messages: Kavanaugh is a liar, and he will declare the preexisting conditions coverage to be unconstitutional. And then he’ll go after Medicare.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:57:17am

re: #134 jaunte

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Nice to see the chairman of the Judiciary Committee pushing Soros conspiracy theories.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:57:45am

re: #134 jaunte

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So he believes that the earth is flat and the inside of the earth is inhabited by lizard people? Many people believe that also. But they are, you know, fucking batshit crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:57:50am

re: #130 wheat-dogg

Yeah, there are factions within the Party, though the public perception is of one big happy Party. Xi seems to lead the more Mao-ist, China First faction, and he’s been using his anti-corruption office to weed out Party members outside that faction. Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao are more moderate and less nationalistic than Xi, and being older are nervous about Xi becoming the next Mao aka dictator for life.

I’ve always found factionalism within dictatorships fascinating. I don’t know why.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 6:59:17am

re: #134 jaunte

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Shameless fucks. It stems from the fact that one of them is an activist for a non-profit progressive organization, which she gladly admits. Can’t remember her name, but she was interviewed on Pod Save America this week.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:00:52am

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

Shameless fucks. It stems from the fact that one of them is an activist for a non-profit progressive organization, which she gladly admits. Can’t remember her name, but she was interviewed on Pod Save America this week.

“How dare she work for groups that want to prevent what happened to her!”

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:03:12am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:04:05am

re: #141 jaunte

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Soros has definitely become the new Rothschilds. And I am glad Max who is no liberal can see that.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:04:46am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:05:50am

re: #138 HappyWarrior

I’ve always found factionalism within dictatorships fascinating. I don’t know why.

It’s human nature. There is no such thing as a monolithic political system, because within every system there will be differences in philosophy and belief. Some systems may try to force “group-think” but in the end they always fail.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:06:52am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:07:30am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

It’s human nature. There is no such thing as a monolithic political system, because within every system there will be differences in philosophy and belief. Some systems may try to force “group-think” but in the end they always fail.

Exactly and it happens even within one man dictatorships i.e. Hitler. I think it stems from obviously even as you say in monolithic systems, tehre will be differences of philosophy and belief. But I think it stems from something even more basic than that. Personalities and that too.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:15:20am

re: #106 Sufficient unto the day…

WTF. I just got another Presidential Alert.

Interesting. My iphone was on night mode, and not only did I not get it, but it didn’t show up in my mentions. The other one did.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:16:07am
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:16:25am

re: #147 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Interesting. My iphone was on night mode, and not only did I not get it, but it didn’t show up in my mentions. The other one did.

I got the first one but didn’t seem to get the second one either.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:17:22am

re: #148 jaunte

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Just buleive me …

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:17:55am

re: #148 jaunte

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The most qualified in our nation’s history? Are you fucking kidding me?

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:18:11am
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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:18:29am

I’m just exhausted and resigned at this point.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:18:36am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

It’s Trumptown, Jake.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:18:46am

The wingnuts are really gonna freak when they find out that Q is Soros.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:19:01am

And no it wouldn’t be a travesty. Your pal Kavanaugh is only here because of his career in aiding right wing causes. He got his current spot not after years serving the people of this country but after years of serving right wing causes. He is dishonest at best and at worst a lying abuser.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:19:36am

re: #153 Citizen K

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I’m just exhausted and resigned at this point.

Pretty rich shit Chuck. You didn’t even Garland a hearing.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:19:49am

re: #148 jaunte

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“I’m the most qualified candidate you’re gonna see.”

“But you’ve put nothing on the paper.”

“HIRE ME OR YOU’RE GONNA REGRET IT!”

“You’ve convinced me. Welcome aboard.”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:20:00am

re: #141 jaunte

Funny (actually not so funny) how authoritarians or would-be authoritarians always blame their problems on the Jews—and now in particular on George Soros who has replaced the Rothschilds as the symbol of Jewish finance.

Also that they always assume that people are getting paid for what they do. (Of course, they’re accustomed to being paid to attend DT’s pep rallies, so there you are.)

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:21:05am

re: #153 Citizen K

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I’m just exhausted and resigned at this point.

“Mob rule” is what they term it whenever it’s obvious to everyone outside the party that the only people who want what they’re pushing is the party.

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CongoJack  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:22:57am

Christ.

Lady I work with… watching the Turtle on her computer says… Kavanaugh deserves to be in the Supreme Court. Blah Blah… I just had to walk away.

Amazing how many conservatives work in education in CO. Makes me want to throw shit.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:25:11am

Want to see some really crazy stuff?

Look at this link if you dare, all that is missing is the Lizard People.

trumpsoroschicago.wordpress.com

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:26:01am

re: #162 b.d.(soros funded)

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Want to see some really crazy stuff?

Look at this link if you dare, all that is missing is the Lizard People.

trumpsoroschicago.wordpress.com

Well looky here looks like Trump got more money from Soros than I got.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:26:11am

re: #161 CongoJack

Christ.

Lady I work with… watching the Turtle on her computer says… Kavanaugh deserves to be in the Supreme Court. Blah Blah… I just had to walk away.

Amazing how many conservatives work in education in CO. Makes me want to throw shit.

When I taught in public schools in Indiana in the early 90s I learned how far they had already infiltrated school boards very intenttionally as part of a wider plan for local politics.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:27:44am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Well looky here looks like Trump got more money from Soros than I got.

hahahaha

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:27:45am

re: #3 jaunte

“Now, hurry up and confirm me. Me and my judicial temperament are getting angry. What goes around comes around. OK maybe I shouldn’t have said that but you people make me very angry. I am waiting too long more than reasonable. Vote to confirm. Now. I very impartial, but what goes around…I’m just a father and a son and a brother and these things unfair. I will remember. Why Dems no confirm right NOW? SAD!”

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:28:19am

It’s been said a lot this week, but bears repeating that the division in Congress may have begun with Gingrich, but McConnell has made its destruction, or the Senate, at least, a mission: accomplished.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:28:53am

lol, this sums it up nicely:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:29:27am

re: #165 b.d.(soros funded)

hahahaha

And it’s infinite.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:29:44am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:30:52am

re: #170 jaunte

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You literally refused to give Merrick Garland who was not only more qualified professionally but also in terms of judicial temperament and ethics but you didn’t want Scalia’s seat going to someone who isn’t a right wing hack.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:31:20am

re: #170 jaunte

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A statement that all that matters is power. And that if any woman gets in the way of that power, whether it be a US Senator or a doctor, you will do everything you possibly can to destroy them.

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CongoJack  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:31:35am

re: #164 Barefoot Grin

What pisses me off…. I listen to progressive talk radio (Stephanie Miller), podcasts (Bob Cesca) and I read Littlegreenfootballs all day. Do I talk politics? No. Do I listen to my audio out loud? No… I use a headset. She is BLARING the shit and talking out her ass how Brett is the most qualified SCOTUS nominee. I just can’t.

I may need an airlift out of here.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:31:57am

re: #141 jaunte

“elevator screamers”, “basement from love”.

Dude is in rare form again today during executive time.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:33:23am

re: #173 CongoJack

“And how is he qualified?”

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:33:35am

re: #141 jaunte

“…only to make Senators look bad!”

Well, I’m glad our nation’s chief executive never holds hate rallies where he mocks people or tweets out insults to anyone who opposes him on a regular basis.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:33:50am

I really hate this asshole.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:34:29am

Collins is of course a yes.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:34:46am

re: #177 jaunte

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I really hate this asshole.

McConnell is still the most likable Senator from Kentucky.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:35:13am

re: #179 b.d.(soros funded)

Who does he live next to?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:36:02am

re: #179 b.d.(soros funded)

McConnell is still the most likable Senator from Kentucky.

//

I don’t know. I can’t stand Rand but at least there are rare times where he’s not a GOP hack. But man, Kentucky, we can smell their stench from here in Virginia.

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CongoJack  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:36:20am

re: #175 Belafon

“And how is he qualified?”

She if a full on Tumper. Cut/paste whatever Fox Noise and the Trumpkin say. She is not the brightest bulb but she fancies herself a worldly woman (who hasn’t left the US).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:36:28am

McConnell is such an amoral jizzbucket.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:36:43am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:36:48am

re: #170 jaunte

“stunningly qualified judge”

These people…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:37:44am

re: #182 CongoJack

She if a full on Tumper. Cut/paste whatever Fox Noise and the Trumpkin say. She is not the brightest bulb but she fancies herself a worldly woman (who hasn’t left the US).

I mean on paper he does have the right qualifications having served on a circuit court but he sure as hell doesn’t have the temperament to be a justice. It’s worse than Scalia who I thought was too much of a condescending jerk but not someone who had the potential to lose his temper with attorneys in court.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:37:57am

re: #177 jaunte

I really hate this asshole.

Say her name.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:38:15am

re: #178 jaunte

Collins is of course a yes.

A yes on the procedural. She’s going to do the big reveal on the confirmation vote this afternoon.

I expect her to vote yes, because that’s how she rolls. But this is the first of two votes.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:38:38am

But folks, we must take heart in knowing that, while we may be watching the SCOTUS bench become a 5-4 far-right majority for the foreseeable future, at least we can rest easy knowing…that Hillary Clinton did not win so she could put moderates on the bench.

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fern01  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:39:03am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

That’s rich. From the guy who paid pays actors.

Still doing it - at all his rallies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:39:20am

re: #189 Targetpractice

But folks, we must take heart in knowing that, while we may be watching the SCOTUS bench become a 5-4 far-right majority for the foreseeable future, at least we can rest easy knowing…that Hillary Clinton did not win so she could put moderates on the bench.

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Agh.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:39:36am

re: #190 fern01

Still doing it - at all his rallies.

Yeah I hadn’t had my coffee yet. Thanks.

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fern01  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:40:45am

re: #134 jaunte

The trump way - if enough people say it - it must be true

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:41:39am

re: #160 Targetpractice

“Mob rule” is what they term it whenever it’s obvious to everyone outside the party that the only people who want what they’re pushing is the party.

Ben Sasse yesterday called it “majoritarianism” (as in, he’s opposed to democracy).

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:43:18am

re: #190 fern01

Still doing it - at all his rallies.

1. Not true, no paid actors.
2. OK, it is true, so what.
3. Totally different from Dem crisis actors and Soros.

/

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:44:16am

Morning.

Started my morning off calling Rob Portman a bold face liar when I heard him say the FBI turned up no evidence that supports the allegations against Kavanaugh.

Robby is all in on Kavanaugh.

Fuck this shit.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:48:21am

OT: Got an email from Barnes & Noble, with subject line thanking me and all their “loyal customers”.

In the body of the email: some poll that placed them #1 ahead of Amazon in something.

That was it. No coupon.

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unproven innocence  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:48:56am

re: #137 Eventual Carrion

So he believes that the earth is flat and the inside of the earth is inhabited by lizard people? Many people believe that also. But they are, you know, fucking batshit crazy.

Cool. I thot we were only under the Denver Airport. /

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:49:13am

re: #196 ObserverArt

Morning.

Started my morning off calling Rob Portman a bold face liar when I heard him say the FNI turned up no evidence that supports the allegations against Kavanaugh.

Robby is all in on Kavanaugh.

Fuck this shit.

RELEASE THE MEMO!!!

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CongoJack  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:51:37am

Whats the old saying…

May you live in interesting times

I want to live in 2014 again.

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retired cynic  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:52:52am

51-49

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:53:38am

I’d love someone to ask Bernie, Stein, or Saradon just how the “revolution” goes forward with a SCOTUS bench stacked against “progressive” policies. Short of a bloody coup, just how do they expect to establish their “utopia” in a manner that can’t just be nickeled and dimed out of existence in the courts?

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:54:27am

re: #201 retired cynic

51-49

So, the vote to decide if they vote was just barely over.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:54:33am

Maybe talking to those Alaskan survivors yesterday did her some good.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:56:26am

re: #202 Targetpractice

I’d love someone to ask Bernie, Stein, or Saradon just how the “revolution” goes forward with a SCOTUS bench stacked against “progressive” policies. Short of a bloody coup, just how do they expect to establish their “utopia” in a manner that can’t just be nickeled and dimed out of existence in the courts?

Shit that would have been a problem even in a more moderate court. We thought the constant challenges to Obama’s policies were extreme? Yeah they would be doing it non-stop if Bernie, a self described socialist was President.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:57:04am

re: #204 makeitstop

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Maybe talking to those Alaskan survivors yesterday did her some good.

I think she’s going to be a No but that means we need at least one more GOP Senator doesn’t it if she in fact votes no in confirmation which this implies to me she will.

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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:57:46am

re: #202 Targetpractice

I’d love someone to ask Bernie, Stein, or Saradon just how the “revolution” goes forward with a SCOTUS bench stacked against “progressive” policies. Short of a bloody coup, just how do they expect to establish their “utopia” in a manner that can’t just be nickeled and dimed out of existence in the courts?

No one has an answer for it, outside of laying the entirety of the blame on the Dems for ‘not fighting hard enough’ or ‘being Republican lite’, etc. And unfortunately….this mindset has seemingly taken such massive purchase. It’s why I’ve given up trying to do outreach, because it seems like Dems are the only ones that seem to take universal blame, whether it’s stalwart GOPers or folks who have been fed the idea that the Dem party needs to be burned down before they could ever dare fight the GOP. No matter what side of the spectrum they’re on, it seems like the only universal is that ‘Dems need to be destroyed’.

It’s why I’ve given up hope on November, regardless of the polls: the ratfucking feels inevitable.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:58:16am

re: #202 Targetpractice

I’d love someone to ask Bernie, Stein, or Saradon just how the “revolution” goes forward with a SCOTUS bench stacked against “progressive” policies. Short of a bloody coup, just how do they expect to establish their “utopia” in a manner that can’t just be nickeled and dimed out of existence in the courts?

The two S-Holes (Stein and Sarandon) still insist Hillary would have us in a couple new wars and she’s put corporate rubber stamps on the courts…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:58:26am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I think she’s going to be a No but that means we need at least one more GOP Senator doesn’t it if she in fact votes no in confirmation which this implies to me she will.

Steve Daines already announced he will not be there for the vote, as he is not taking off from his daughter’s wedding for that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:58:32am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I think she’s going to be a No but that means we need at least one more GOP Senator doesn’t it if she in fact votes no in confirmation which this implies to me she will.

2 more. 50/50 split means Pence can vote to confirm.

So even if Collins and Flake suddenly grow a conscience, Manchin could still vote to confirm and clinch it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:59:11am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

Steve Daines already announced he will not be there for the vote, as he is not taking off from his daughter’s wedding for that.

Right so if we have Murkowski plus all 49 Dem senators united in this, maybe that stops it but Manchin’s worrying me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:59:45am

re: #210 Targetpractice

2 more. 50/50 split means Pence can vote to confirm.

So even if Collins and Flake suddenly grow a conscience, Manchin could still vote to confirm and clinch it.

But what about Daines from MT who apparently isn’t going to be there for the vote.

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fern01  Oct 5, 2018 • 7:59:46am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

Steve Daines already announced he will not be there for the vote, as he is not taking off from his daughter’s wedding for that.

I thought he announced he would get back to vote if required? Sorry I don’t have a link. Read it somewhere.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:00:15am

re: #210 Targetpractice

2 more. 50/50 split means Pence can vote to confirm.

So even if Collins and Flake suddenly grow a conscience, Manchin could still vote to confirm and clinch it.

If Daines doesn’t show for the vote and all other senators are there, there will be an odd number of senators and Mike Pence doesn’t get a vote (unless someone abstains).

That means the senator who votes to put Kavanaugh over the top (if that happens) gets pilloried by the voters.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:01:12am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹

If Daines doesn’t show for the vote and all other senators are there, there will be an odd number of senators and Mike Pence doesn’t get a vote (unless someone abstains).

That means the senator who votes to put Kavanaugh over the top (if that happens) gets pilloried by the voters.

Right Pence only comes in if there’s a tie. He doesn’t get to be the TIE.

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fern01  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:01:57am

If Manchin votes Yes - will probably give the next senate to the GOP. He will win ZERO GOPers with such a vote but many dems will stay home rather than support him. There is no logic in him voting for this man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:02:05am

re: #213 fern01

I thought he announced he would get back to vote if required? Sorry I don’t have a link. Read it somewhere.

GOP Sen. Steve Daines will be out Saturday; Kavanaugh vote could be held open overnight (CNN)

I believe they call that “regular order.” /s

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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:03:47am

re: #217 Anymouse 🌹

GOP Sen. Steve Daines will be out Saturday; Kavanaugh vote could be held open overnight (CNN)

I believe they call that “regular order.” /s

Because of course.

It’s all an inevitability stretched out to prolong the cruelty and as an extra ‘fuck you’ to the people who dared think that they might have a voice or be listened to.

Nope. It’s power for it’s own sake, power for it’s own perpetuation, and it will win every fucking time.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:03:52am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Right so if we have Murkowski plus all 49 Dem senators united in this, maybe that stops it but Manchin’s worrying me.

Manchin is polling 12 points ahead of his Republican opponent, so I think he’ll vote to confirm.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:03:53am

re: #216 fern01

If Manchin votes Yes - will probably give the next senate to the GOP. He will win ZERO GOPers with such a vote but many dems will stay home rather than support him. There is no logic in him voting for this man.

Even if his constituents don’t believe or even care about Dr. Ford’s allegations. Kavanaugh is a sure bet to vote to repeal ACA. God I hate that we have to rely on Manchin.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:04:09am

re: #216 fern01

If Manchin votes Yes - will probably give the next senate to the GOP. He will win ZERO GOPers with such a vote but many dems will stay home rather than support him. There is no logic in him voting for this man.

If Manchin were the Democratics senator here in Texas, even though we would hate his vote, we’d still vote for him, because he’d still be the one Democratic senator from Texas.

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makeitstop  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:04:19am

re: #209 Anymouse 🌹

Steve Daines already announced he will not be there for the vote, as he is not taking off from his daughter’s wedding for that.

They’re holding the vote open until Sunday so he can come back and cast his vote.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:04:19am

re: #219 jaunte

Manchin is polling 12 points ahead of his Republican opponent, so I think he’ll vote to confirm.

Yeah unfortunately I think he will take the easy way out here.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:06:12am

re: #219 jaunte

Manchin is polling 12 points ahead of his Republican opponent, so I think he’ll vote to confirm.

I’d think a 12 point lead would give reason to vote no.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:06:20am
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fern01  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:06:30am

re: #221 Belafon

If Manchin were the Democratics senator here in Texas, even though we would hate his vote, we’d still vote for him, because he’d still be the one Democratic senator from Texas.

There are many who will still vote for him in WV but I think a Yes vote will seriously supress the dem vote - I sure couldn’t vote for him if he confirms Kavanaugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:06:39am

blech

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:07:21am

re: #225 Sir John Barron

Ordinarily, but it’s Manchin.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:07:51am

and moron:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:08:19am

Alabama is just as red and Doug Jones’ position in AL is nowhere near as strong and yet Doug is doing the right thing here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:08:42am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

and moron:

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It’s fucking sick.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:08:45am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

and moron:

The ones made in the basement with love get taken by the police at the politicians word.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:08:47am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:09:08am
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:09:35am

This also is the vote to advance. Had this one failed, they would have just done another vote later.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:10:23am

It was Kavanaugh’s acceptance speech on his nomination that revealed what a toady he was; among his first few lines:

“No President has ever consulted more widely, or talked with more people from more backgrounds, to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.”

This is not a man who would show any independence on the bench.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:10:49am

I mean I do appreciate when Manchin remembers he’s a Democrat but today I want him to remember he’s a human being too.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:11:38am

re: #237 Hecuba’s daughter

It was Kavanaugh’s acceptance speech on his nomination that revealed what a toady he was; among his first few lines:

“No President has ever consulted more widely, or talked with more people from more backgrounds, to seek input about a Supreme Court nomination.”

This is not a man who would show any independence on the bench.

He’s a career GOP man. Everytime the Bush administration was making bad decisions, he was pretty much right there.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:11:41am

Is Judge Rapey part of the SCOTUS yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:11:53am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s actually #GoodTrouble

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:12:17am

re: #240 Dr. Matt

Is Judge Rapey part of the SCOTUS yet?

No this is cloture.

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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:12:29am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again: this shit would have sunk another president in another time. We have the pettiest fucking manchild of a President gleefully spreading literal conspiracy theories and generally casting aspersions of treason against his enemies in the most open way possible.

And it’s all fucking shrugged off by the next day, and he skates through forever because the media won’t actually stand still long enough to hold him to account, or simply act as his stenographers, and the GOP controls every single fucking lever of power to where it may not even fucking matter how well we do come November because they’ll probably fucking pull an NCGOP and lock us out anyway because they know they’ll pay no fucking actual consequences whatso-fucking-ever.

I’m….god….please, someone talk me off the ledge here. I’m fucking desperate. I want to see some kind of fucking silver lining going forward. I don’t see anything.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:12:48am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Alabama is just as red and Doug Jones’ position in AL is nowhere near as strong and yet Doug is doing the right thing here.

Doug Jones is not running for reelection this year. That makes a huge difference

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Dr. Matt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:12:52am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

These are not signs made in the basement from love!

So fucking embarrassing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:13:39am

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

Doug Jones is not running for reelection this year. That makes a huge difference

Okay Heitcamp. It definitely does make a difference I agree. But Manchin has a sizable lead.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:14:35am

Drama Kings

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:15:40am
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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:16:19am
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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:16:28am

Well…Major League Baseball’s schedule for Cleveland and Houston Baseball playoff games sucks bad.

Not one game in prime time. All are scheduled to be started before 4:00 pm.

That really messes with the fans of both teams.

So Fuck New York and Boston…TV media and baseball are catering to them because of big market TV.

Grrrrr….

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:16:42am

Really, we’re just back to where we were 2 weeks ago, watching as the Senate GOP gear up to hammer in the last nail on the 20th century. The only difference that the interim seems to have made is the vote may be closer than it would have been 2 weeks ago.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:16:43am

re: #247 jaunte

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Drama Kings

Maybe men are too emotional. //

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:17:40am

re: #243 Citizen K

See all those people protesting? We couldn’t get that kind of action when Bush was in office. We were never going to change as a country until people started realizing what was happening.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:17:42am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Well…Major League Baseball’s schedule for Cleveland and Houston Baseball playoff games sucks bad.

Not on game in prime time. All are scheduled to be started before 4:00 pm.

That really messes with the fans of both teams.

So Fuck New York and Boston…TV media and baseball are catering to them because of big market TV.

Grrrrr….

I wish the Sox and Yanks could both somehow lose. Go Cleveland though. I want a Cleveland-Milwaukee or Colorado series. Atlanta wouldn’t be bad either since they have a few ex O’s.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:17:45am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Okay Heitcamp. It definitely does make a difference I agree. But Manchin has a sizable lead.

Leads can vanish overnight. And polls today are totally unreliable. Three weeks before the election internal polls showed Joe Crowley had a 36 point lead over AOC — and then AOC won.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:19:06am

re: #251 Targetpractice

Really, we’re just back to where we were 2 weeks ago, watching as the Senate GOP gear up to hammer in the last nail on the 20th century. The only difference that the interim seems to have made is the vote may be closer than it would have been 2 weeks ago.

Well, it’s not over until it’s over. Baseball teams don’t concede when they’re behind in the seventh inning (using a sports analogy here).

Every second longer this goes on, the possibility continues that something destructive comes out.

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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:19:06am

re: #253 Belafon

See all those people protesting? We couldn’t get that kind of action when Bush was in office. We were never going to change as a country until people started realizing what was happening.

I’m pretty sure I remember it happening during Bush too. And the same general thing happened: Media downplayed and/or demonized it, and it made not one fucking dent because of that

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Lupin  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:19:31am

Unlike the idiot here who thought I was “gloating”, my sentiments towards the US of late have alternated between disgust (as if looking at a toilet backing up) and fury.

I chose to become a US citizen long ago, and I just can’t stand what’s going on. I either shut down and avoid the news (that’s the disgust phase); or I feel anger and even hatred towards those Americans who support this indecent freak show, and those who were idiotic enough to stay home or vote for anyone but Hillary last time (that’s the fury phase).

Going out now; I can’t even stand to talk about it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:19:40am

re: #255 Hecuba’s daughter

Leads can vanish overnight. And polls today are totally unreliable. Three weeks before the election internal polls showed Joe Crowley had a 36 point lead over AOC — and then AOC won.

I still think he’s being a coward. Nothing will change my mind.

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:19:46am

OT, in a sense, but it is one of my responses to those idiot snowflakes that fly the southern swastika around here:

Us Cavalry Guidon

This is a reproduction of the 35 star (post admission of West Virginia) US Cavalry guidon. This would have been flown in the last two years of the war by Union cavalry troops, like those of Gen. Buford at Gettysburg.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:19:49am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:21:21am

re: #260 William Lewis

OT, in a sense, but it is one of my responses to those idiot snowflakes that fly the southern swastika around here:

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This is a reproduction of the 35 star (post admission of West Virginia) US Cavalry guidon. This would have been flown in the last two years of the war by Union cavalry troops, like those of Gen. Buford at Gettysburg.

Speaking of which, I talked to a researcher who is going to obtain my second great granddad’s enlistment papers and pensions. We know nothing about him before he married second great Nana. Just that he was a German immigrant from Hesse.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:22:03am

re: #235 jaunte

Sounds classy. When’s the next Values Voters Summit?

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Citizen K  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:23:51am

And of course, the sterling voice of Fucked Odd chimes in to tell us the problem is….once again….”both sides same thing”.

And thus the GOP will always get away with everything, because clearly, the Dems must be just as equally guilty so no one needs to pay an actual price…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:24:32am

re: #264 Citizen K

And of course, the sterling voice of Fucked Odd chimes in to tell us the problem is….once again….”both sides same thing”.

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And thus the GOP will always get away with everything, because clearly, the Dems must be just as equally guilty so no one needs to pay an actual price…

One side is fighting to keep a lying abuser of women off SCOTUS, the other is fighting to get him on. BOTH SIDES! //

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:24:57am

re: #263 Sir John Barron

Sounds classy. When’s the next Values Voters Summit?

Not until next year fortunately. I’m sure Kavanaugh will be a speaker.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:26:03am

re: #264 Citizen K

And of course, the sterling voice of Fucked Odd chimes in to tell us the problem is….once again….”both sides same thing”.

And thus the GOP will always get away with everything, because clearly, the Dems must be just as equally guilty so no one needs to pay an actual price…

Imagine Todd commenting on the actual Civil War.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:27:47am

re: #267 Belafon

Imagine Todd commenting on the actual Civil War.

“Well you know the rebels are obviously wrong to fire on Fort Sumter but maybe Abraham Lincoln should have listened more to the slave owners during the election.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:28:17am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:29:25am

Oh and that toilet paper video is a fake.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:30:13am

You can’t both-sides when one side made Donald freaking Trump President in an effort to strip women of their freedom. That shit is so 2015.

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:30:22am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

I mean I do appreciate when Manchin remembers he’s a Democrat but today I want him to remember he’s a human being too.

Manchin is Manchin. Period.

I remember the bit about his daughter, Heather Bresch, raising the costs of EpiPens as head of Mylan Pharmaceuticals.

Joe may just be more Republican than we want to admit.

I know I never count on him. If he surprises me, fine, but certainly no one to count on.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:31:20am

re: #272 ObserverArt

Manchin is Manchin. Period.

I remember the bit about his daughter, Heather Bresch , raising the costs of EpiPens as head of Mylan Pharmaceuticals.

Joe may just be more Republican than we want to admit.

I know I never count on him. If he surprises me, fine, but certainly no one to count on.

I honestly hope we can eventually get a comfortable enough Senate majority where we don’t need him.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:32:29am

re: #266 HappyWarrior

Not until next year fortunately. I’m sure Kavanaugh will be a speaker.

If there is not a full panel discussion of Beer is Really Great, it will disappoint me.

/

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:33:00am

re: #243 Citizen K

Again: this shit would have sunk another president in another time. We have the pettiest fucking manchild of a President gleefully spreading literal conspiracy theories and generally casting aspersions of treason against his enemies in the most open way possible.

And it’s all fucking shrugged off by the next day, and he skates through forever because the media won’t actually stand still long enough to hold him to account, or simply act as his stenographers, and the GOP controls every single fucking lever of power to where it may not even fucking matter how well we do come November because they’ll probably fucking pull an NCGOP and lock us out anyway because they know they’ll pay no fucking actual consequences whatso-fucking-ever.

I’m….god….please, someone talk me off the ledge here. I’m fucking desperate. I want to see some kind of fucking silver lining going forward. I don’t see anything.

Sorry, but I get the feeling there is no talking you down from any ledge.

You’ve already said you’ve given up on November, so why would you be looking for a silver lining?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:33:26am

re: #274 Sir John Barron

If there is not a full panel discussion of Beer is Really Great, it will disappoint me.

/

Value Voters Summit Supreme IPA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:34:19am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:34:32am

I’m hoping if he is as I suspect confirmed that there will be a lot of angry voters at the polls but you know, I want him stopped today even though that may increase the Republican voter enthusiasm.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:34:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:35:53am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:36:06am

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And that’s why we’re glad you are here rather than Roy Moore, thank you Senator Jones.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:36:18am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I’m hoping if he is as I suspect confirmed that there will be a lot of angry voters at the polls but you know, I want him stopped today even though that may increase the Republican voter enthusiasm.

I hope the Russian collusion gets lots of angry voters to the polls.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:36:44am

re: #282 Sir John Barron

I hope the Russian collusion gets lots of angry voters to the polls.

I hope so too. There’s so much to be angry about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:36:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:37:53am

jeebus

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:37:58am

re: #251 Targetpractice

Really, we’re just back to where we were 2 weeks ago, watching as the Senate GOP gear up to hammer in the last nail on the 20th century. The only difference that the interim seems to have made is the vote may be closer than it would have been 2 weeks ago.

And the two weeks put the Republican’s bad dealing, fake investigations, bitterness, Grahams Hammy Award drama and basically ignoring their own constituents on further display.

They may win this nomination, but what was the cost?

Hopefully it is heavy.

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Interesting Times  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:38:22am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

Oh and that toilet paper video is a fake.

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Where did you read it was a fake? That’s what I thought at first, but it appears to be real. I mean, if it’s made it all the way to BBC…

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:41:57am

re: #258 Lupin

Unlike the idiot here who thought I was “gloating”, my sentiments towards the US of late have alternated between disgust (as if looking at a toilet backing up) and fury.

I chose to become a US citizen long ago, and I just can’t stand what’s going on. I either shut down and avoid the news (that’s the disgust phase); or I feel anger and even hatred towards those Americans who support this indecent freak show, and those who were idiotic enough to stay home or vote for anyone but Hillary last time (that’s the fury phase).

Going out now; I can’t even stand to talk about it.

Was calling one of our popular members an idiot needed?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:42:49am

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when one party refuses to allow confirmation of dozens of judiclal nominations for years, hoping to pack the judiciary when he has the chance.

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the Senate Majority leader breaks with all precedent to hold a Supreme Court seat open for a year to deny the appointment to a President elected by a clear majority of Americans?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when that same Majority Leader breaks with all precedent to eliminate the 60 vote bar for Supreme Court nominations.

What’s the ‘moderate position’ for women when the President announces he will only appoint Supreme Court justices who will vote to take away their bodily autonomy.

What’s the ‘moderate’ position to take when a Supreme Court nominee has given what appears to be demonstrably false testimony?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the same Senators who demanded the production of all the writings of Democratic SCOTUS nominees withhold 97% of the writings of a Republican SCOTUS nominee?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the nominee attacks an entire political party, spins conspiracy theories, and belligerently sneers in the face of Senators?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the President says that angry partisan performance is exactly what he wanted to see?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when a nominee is credibly accused of sexual assault, and the Senate Majority refuses to investigate?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the Senate majority and the White House limit the FBI to a sham investigation that willfully refuses to interview witnesses the alleged victims say can confirm their stories?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when that nominee tells easily debunked lies to that same committee on national television, but gets confirmed anyway?

The ‘moderate position’, Chuck, is for the President to withdraw a nominee who can’t get 60 votes, and instead nominate someone who can. The ‘moderate position’ is to oppose the confirmation of that nominee, not on ideological grounds, but on the question of character.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:43:29am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

Oh and that toilet paper video is a fake.

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Pretty sure all that tweeter did was add the “Veep” TV show music and credits to the actual real video of trump and the toilet paper.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:43:34am

re: #286 ObserverArt

And the two weeks put the Republican’s bad dealing, fake investigations, bitterness, Grahams Hammy Award drama and basically ignoring their own constituents on further display.

They may win this nomination, but what was the cost?

Hopefully it is heavy.

What cost could they really pay that would equal putting this turd on the SCOTUS bench for the foreseeable future?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:44:54am

re: #289 Blind Frog Belly White

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when one party refuses to allow confirmation of dozens of judiclal nominations for years, hoping to pack the judiciary when he has the chance.

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the Senate Majority leader breaks with all precedent to hold a Supreme Court seat open for a year to deny the appointment to a President elected by a clear majority of Americans?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when that same Majority Leader breaks with all precedent to eliminate the 60 vote bar for Supreme Court nominations.

What’s the ‘moderate position’ for women when the President announces he will only appoint Supreme Court justices who will vote to take away their bodily autonomy.

What’s the ‘moderate’ position to take when a Supreme Court nominee has given what appears to be demonstrably false testimony?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the same Senators who demanded the production of all the writings of Democratic SCOTUS nominees withhold 97% of the writings of a Republican SCOTUS nominee?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the nominee attacks an entire political party, spins conspiracy theories, and belligerently sneers in the face of Senators?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the President says that angry partisan performance is exactly what he wanted to see?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when a nominee is credibly accused of sexual assault, and the Senate Majority refuses to investigate?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the Senate majority and the White House limit the FBI to a sham investigation that willfully refuses to interview witnesses the alleged victims say can confirm their stories?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when that nominee tells easily debunked lies to that same committee on national television, but gets confirmed anyway?

The ‘moderate position’, Chuck, is for the President to withdraw a nominee who can’t get 60 votes, and instead nominate someone who can. The ‘moderate position’ is to oppose the confirmation of that nominee, not on ideological grounds, but on the question of character.

Not to nitpick because I agree with your point but SCOTUS has always been a simple majority. What was changed was the 60 votes to 50 for cloture. Which is what was done for Gorsuch just last year. Reid did change it for district judges a couple years prior. But I agree with you. Anyhow. What pisses me off are these so called moderate and or people who try to claim they’re above partisan politics because they proclaim not to be biased in favor of the Dems/Repubs. You are a partisan in your own way.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:45:47am

I see today is off to an insufferable start.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:45:52am

re: #291 Targetpractice

What cost could they really pay that would equal putting this turd on the SCOTUS bench for the foreseeable future?

I don’t know the answer to that unfortunately. Maybe they lose Congress for the next six years but they’ll have the Court on their side to agree with any challenges to Dem passed legislation.

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Mattand  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:46:08am

I think what really galls me about the Kavanaugh nomination is that we’re counting on three Republicans who, for God knows what reason, are seen as “independent” when it comes to party loyalty, and then constantly march in lockstep with the GOP.

I really don’t see how this ends in anything other than Kavanaugh getting on the SCOTUS.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:46:54am

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

I see today is off to an insufferable start.

We’re all just a bunch of rays of fucking sunshine ‘round here.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:47:49am

re: #296 Targetpractice

We’re all just a bunch of rays of fucking sunshine ‘round here.

//

those timely reminders are just in case we might have forgotten…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:49:38am

indeed

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:50:05am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Not to nitpick because I agree with your point but SCOTUS has always been a simple majority. What was changed was the 60 votes to 50 for cloture. Which is what was done for Gorsuch just last year. Reid did change it for district judges a couple years prior. But I agree with you. Anyhow. What pisses me off are these so called moderate and or people who try to claim they’re above partisan politics because they proclaim not to be biased in favor of the Dems/Repubs. You are a partisan in your own way.

Dude, not being able to get 60 votes for cloture is a fucking 60 vote bar.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:51:14am

re: #289 Blind Frog Belly White

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when one party refuses to allow confirmation of dozens of judiclal nominations for years, hoping to pack the judiciary when he has the chance.

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the Senate Majority leader breaks with all precedent to hold a Supreme Court seat open for a year to deny the appointment to a President elected by a clear majority of Americans?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when that same Majority Leader breaks with all precedent to eliminate the 60 vote bar for Supreme Court nominations.

What’s the ‘moderate position’ for women when the President announces he will only appoint Supreme Court justices who will vote to take away their bodily autonomy.

What’s the ‘moderate’ position to take when a Supreme Court nominee has given what appears to be demonstrably false testimony?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the same Senators who demanded the production of all the writings of Democratic SCOTUS nominees withhold 97% of the writings of a Republican SCOTUS nominee?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the nominee attacks an entire political party, spins conspiracy theories, and belligerently sneers in the face of Senators?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the President says that angry partisan performance is exactly what he wanted to see?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when a nominee is credibly accused of sexual assault, and the Senate Majority refuses to investigate?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when the Senate majority and the White House limit the FBI to a sham investigation that willfully refuses to interview witnesses the alleged victims say can confirm their stories?

What’s the ‘moderate position’ when that nominee tells easily debunked lies to that same committee on national television, but gets confirmed anyway?

The ‘moderate position’, Chuck, is for the President to withdraw a nominee who can’t get 60 votes, and instead nominate someone who can. The ‘moderate position’ is to oppose the confirmation of that nominee, not on ideological grounds, but on the question of character.

The NEW “Moderate Position” will be to increase the size of the court from 9 to 15 and put six women in those new seats.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:51:31am

re: #299 Blind Frog Belly White

Dude, not being able to get 60 votes for cloture is a fucking 60 vote bar.

Yeah you’re right. My bad. But I meant for the literal confirmation itself. One theoretically could vote for the cloture and then against the nomination or vice versa.

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:52:24am

re: #291 Targetpractice

What cost could they really pay that would equal putting this turd on the SCOTUS bench for the foreseeable future?

So gaining the house and senate in the future doesn’t count for anything.

Sorry I made the comment. It really doesn’t fit the current mood of some members here.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:53:35am

re: #302 ObserverArt

So gaining the house and senate in the future doesn’t count for anything.

Sorry I made the comment. It really doesn’t fit the current mood of some members here.

I think what he means, what could they lose that would be the equivalent to having control of the court for the foreseeable future. I do see what you mean and I do believe such a backlash not only possible but likely. But I just wonder if it will be enough but we’re in a tough bind etiher way.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:54:20am

re: #302 ObserverArt

So gaining the house and senate in the future doesn’t count for anything.

Sorry I made the comment. It really doesn’t fit the current mood of some members here.

Unless we’re set to win 67 votes in the Senate, no, it really doesn’t. What does winning a majority really mean if any laws and policies passed can be challenged and overturned in the courts?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:55:03am

LOL, of course. The last thing they wanted was to actually confront the reality of their dysfunction.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:55:34am

You know what pisses me off I think most about this is how history is repeating itself AGAIN. Over 25 years ago, Anita Hill’s allegations were dismissed and fortunately for her she lived in the pre-mass internet world where she wouldn’t have gotten the threats that Dr. Ford got. But it just shows us that we’ve learned nothing in the years since. I’m sure 25-30 years now some other high profile nominee for SCOTUS or some high office will have serious allegations against him and Dr. Ford and Anita Hill will be invoked and the Rs will use Hill/Ford as a reason why their guy should get it because “We can’t believe every allegation blah blah.” It’s not what happens. It’s what happens and it happening again that has us in this madness.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:56:56am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Unless we’re set to win 67 votes in the Senate, no, it really doesn’t. What does winning a majority really mean if any laws and policies passed can be challenged and overturned in the courts?

Exactly. Sorry OA. I want to be half full on this but even if we do get Congress back and the Presidency, they’re going ot be challenging the legality of everything we do and I think a Roberts court with Kavanaugh on it will be happy to end a lot of that. Not only that but a lot of stuff that they were unable to overturn with Kennedy on the court. I want to be wrong but this is a dark day.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:56:59am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

LOL, of course. The last thing they wanted was to actually confront the reality of their dysfunction.

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Really strengthens the argument that the whole thing was a ploy, a means of trying to assure the party leadership that Trump wasn’t really running anything.

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Mattand  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:58:10am

re: #291 Targetpractice

What cost could they really pay that would equal putting this turd on the SCOTUS bench for the foreseeable future?

This.

The GOP got behind Trump to use as a wrecking ball on the government in order to achieve the one party domination Karl Rove was always foaming at the mouth for. They got here in a large part due to a huge chunk of the US electorate being fucking idiots.

Mentioned ad nauseam, but I’m in allegedly liberal NJ, and I’m surrounded by Magic Balance Fairy rocket scientists and straight up MAGAts.

Really failing to see the price the GOP is paying.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:58:42am

re: #301 HappyWarrior

Yeah you’re right. My bad. But I meant for the literal confirmation itself. One theoretically could vote for the cloture and then against the nomination or vice versa.

Which is how the ACA passed. I believe it was Collins that voted for closure, and then voted against the final bill.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:58:59am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

I think what he means, what could they lose that would be the equivalent to having control of the court for the foreseeable future. I do see what you mean and I do believe such a backlash not only possible but likely. But I just wonder if it will be enough but we’re in a tough bind etiher way.

While the demographics favor us taking back the House on a more permanent basis in the future (hence the ferocious gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc), the structure of the Senate will make it tend the other way.

It’s clear that the GOP was willing to trade the Senate for this seat, because they know that Kavanaugh’s average life expectancy at his current age is 27 years, and he’ll probably live longer than that, whereas they might lose the Senate for 2-4 years, but they’ll eventually get it back.

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 8:59:33am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Unless we’re set to win 67 votes in the Senate, no, it really doesn’t. What does winning a majority really mean if any laws and policies passed can be challenged and overturned in the courts?

A strong majority and the will on the nation behind it might stop a lot of those challenges making it to the courts.

And I still think of the future. I might not be around, but for all the youngsters in this country a packed court might be broken up in time once everyone learns from what should be seen as a mistake in time.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:00:27am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Sorry OA. I want to be half full on this but even if we do get Congress back and the Presidency, they’re going ot be challenging the legality of everything we do and I think a Roberts court with Kavanaugh on it will be happy to end a lot of that. Not only that but a lot of stuff that they were unable to overturn with Kennedy on the court. I want to be wrong but this is a dark day.

And we push through anyway. Every challenge has to make its way to the SCOTUS. That takes a while.

I don’t get down, but here’s my line when I do: I ain’t giving up until John Lewis does. And his death does not count as giving up.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:00:30am

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

While the demographics favor us taking back the House on a more permanent basis in the future (hence the ferocious gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc), the structure of the Senate will make it tend the other way.

It’s clear that the GOP was willing to trade the Senate for this seat, because they know that Kavanaugh’s average life expectancy at his current age is 27 years, and he’ll probably live longer than that, whereas they might lose the Senate for 2-4 years, but they’ll eventually get it back.

Right. That’s exactly what I think TP was getting at. Man. This sucks.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:00:49am

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

LOL, of course. The last thing they wanted was to actually confront the reality of their dysfunction.

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Because, really, who cares? It was a month ago and no one remembers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:01:13am

re: #313 Belafon

And we push through anyway. Every challenge has to make its way to the SCOTUS. That takes a while.

I don’t get down, but here’s my line when I do: I ain’t giving up until John Lewis does. And his death does not count as giving up.

Oh by no means was I suggesting throw in the towel. I just see why there’s a glass half empty mindset but we can’t give up.

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ObserverArt  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:01:13am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Sorry OA. I want to be half full on this but even if we do get Congress back and the Presidency, they’re going ot be challenging the legality of everything we do and I think a Roberts court with Kavanaugh on it will be happy to end a lot of that. Not only that but a lot of stuff that they were unable to overturn with Kennedy on the court. I want to be wrong but this is a dark day.

Enjoy the dark day then.

I’m going to go find some light.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:03:23am

re: #317 ObserverArt

Enjoy the dark day then.

I’m going to go find some light.

I am too. Believe me. I’m going canvassing tomorrow for positive leadership but I just want but can’t see even if they lose Congress over this how they will be hurt in the long run.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:03:47am

re: #59 goddamnedfrank

Amateur hour with nerve gas what the fuck.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:06:04am

I’m sensing a dark feedback loop happening here. We need dog pictures.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:09:19am

re: #320 Belafon

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:09:31am

re: #312 ObserverArt

A strong majority and the will on the nation behind it might stop a lot of those challenges making it to the courts.

And I still think of the future. I might not be around, but for all the youngsters in this country a packed court might be broken up in time once everyone learns from what should be seen as a mistake in time.

And angels might fly out of my arse. I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m just saying the odds of it happening are too small to be seen by the naked eye. The will of the nation is against Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation, and yet it is still moving forward. And we don’t get a vote in court cases, that rests with whichever 12 unlucky bastards failed to avoid jury duty and the courts that are being packed by Trump-approved partisans. It’s hard as hell to be optimistic when there’s not much to be optimistic about.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:10:23am

re: #320 Belafon

I’m sensing a dark feedback loop happening here. We need dog pictures.

How about some George Clinton?

George Clinton - Atomic Dog

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:10:24am

re: #320 Belafon

I’m sensing a dark feedback loop happening here. We need dog pictures.

I hear, and I obey…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:11:52am

re: #321 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Throw two tennis balls in opposite directions, and you’re golden. (did somebody do that in a movie?)

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:12:01am

re: #287 Interesting Times

Where did you read it was a fake? That’s what I thought at first, but it appears to be real. I mean, if it’s made it all the way to BBC…

My bad, Snopes says it is real.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:13:18am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:14:36am

re: #320 Belafon

I’m sensing a dark feedback loop happening here. We need dog pictures.

It’s the 24-hour news cycle. If everything isn’t fixed with one vote or one decision, then all is gloom and doom forever. A long chain of special election victories, shrinking Repug enrollment, unprecedented money for Democratic candidates, massive new voter registration and an energized electorate count for nothing.

(Picking apart this post and explanations of why none of that matters in ten, nine, eight…)

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:15:12am

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

Fucking coward.

So much for not showing the proper demeanor to be a judge.

Fucking coward.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:15:25am

re: #327 goddamnedfrank

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No profile in courage moment. NO shock.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:16:14am

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

I hear, and I obey…

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Is that a greyhound bed? What does he think of the usurper?

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:17:10am
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:17:23am

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

While the demographics favor us taking back the House on a more permanent basis in the future (hence the ferocious gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc), the structure of the Senate will make it tend the other way.

It’s clear that the GOP was willing to trade the Senate for this seat, because they know that Kavanaugh’s average life expectancy at his current age is 27 years, and he’ll probably live longer than that, whereas they might lose the Senate for 2-4 years, but they’ll eventually get it back.

But at least Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid will not be under attack by the House any longer. Of course, we may be totally ungovernable then. The legislature will not be able to accomplish anything. I believe this happened in 19th Century Poland where a single objection in the legislature was sufficient to render any legislation null and void. This does not bode well for the country.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:17:58am

re: #328 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

It’s the 24-hour news cycle. If everything isn’t fixed with one vote or one decision, then all is gloom and doom forever. A long chain of special election victories, shrinking Repug enrollment, unprecedented money for Democratic candidates, massive new voter registration and an energized electorate count for nothing.

(Picking apart this post and explanations of why none of that matters in ten, nine, eight…)

If it lasts more than an election cycle, then perhaps I’ll put some stock in it.

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sagehen  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:18:29am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Unless we’re set to win 67 votes in the Senate, no, it really doesn’t. What does winning a majority really mean if any laws and policies passed can be challenged and overturned in the courts?

The Supreme Court can only take X number of cases per year.

There will be good policies struck down, but it won’t be every single thing every single year.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:19:58am

re: #331 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Is that a greyhound bed? What does he think of the usurper?

Not Rango’s primary bed. It’s a medium-sized bed, which a Greyhound can curl up in - and Zeena sometimes did - but not stretch out it.

For DoRango fans, an artsy shot of them fighting over a fake-fur duster….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:20:06am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:22:17am

There’s Kavanaugh’s calendar. There are witnesses who you refuse to interview. There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:25:30am

re: #320 Belafon

I’m sensing a dark feedback loop happening here. We need dog pictures.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:26:35am

re: #328 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

It’s the 24-hour news cycle. If everything isn’t fixed with one vote or one decision, then all is gloom and doom forever. A long chain of special election victories, shrinking Repug enrollment, unprecedented money for Democratic candidates, massive new voter registration and an energized electorate count for nothing.

(Picking apart this post and explanations of why none of that matters in ten, nine, eight…)

This.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:27:51am

Jesus what a ridiculous unforced error. Dude could have fucking said nothing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:28:17am

re: #329 KGxvi

Fucking coward.

So much for not showing the proper demeanor to be a judge.

Fucking coward.

To be a coward, you have to stand out against a bunch of other people who are not cowards.

So comparing Flake to Republicans in general and calling him a coward really doesn’t work.

Comparing him to someone like Heidi Heidtcamp, yup, he’s a coward.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:30:21am

re: #333 Hecuba’s daughter

But at least Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid will not be under attack by the House any longer. Of course, we may be totally ungovernable then. The legislature will not be able to accomplish anything. I believe this happened in 19th Century Poland where a single objection in the legislature was sufficient to render any legislation null and void. This does not bode well for the country.

I think things are going to change in the smaller states in the near future. A lot of those states have older populations - the median age, nationally, is about 37. As more of those older people get closer to retirement, there will either have to be an influx of younger people to fill jobs (and if unemployment remains in the 3-8% range, those people may end up having to be from other countries - and the story about Devin Nunes’ family the other day suggests that’s going to complicate shit for a lot of them) or there is a real chance of economic collapse.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:30:36am

Fox headline leads to an article explaining WHY KAVANAUGH SHOULD NOT BE CONFIRMED.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:31:18am

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

Jesus what a ridiculous unforced error. You could have fucking said nothing.

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Hey now, I’m being told that the momentum is on our side, so why worry?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:31:58am

re: #335 sagehen

The Supreme Court can only take X number of cases per year.

There will be good policies struck down, but it won’t be every single thing every single year.

Moreover, even an ideologically rigid 5-4 conservative majority doesn’t remain that way.

Capturing the Senate means the Democrats can oppose with a majority any truly awful pick coming out of Trump, and capturing the Presidency in 2020 would mean he would be opposed for two years then out.

Moreover, no one can predict which Supreme Court justices might retire or die; though RBG is elderly, that doesn’t mean she would be the first off the bench. A lot of people were surprised when Antonin Scalia woke up dead one morning (so surprised that wingnuts were convinced it was some liberal plot).

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:33:03am

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

Jesus what a ridiculous unforced error. Dude could have fucking said nothing.

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This is why we can’t have nice things.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:35:11am

re: #343 KGxvi

I think things are going to change in the smaller states in the near future. A lot of those states have older populations - the median age, nationally, is about 37. As more of those older people get closer to retirement, there will either have to be an influx of younger people to fill jobs (and if unemployment remains in the 3-8% range, those people may end up having to be from other countries - and the story about Devin Nunes’ family the other day suggests that’s going to complicate shit for a lot of them) or there is a real chance of economic collapse.

Not all though. For example, according to the US Census Bureau, 2017 estimates of Nebraska indicate a quarter of the population is under 18, while a bit over 15% is over 65.

About 7% of the state is immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:35:41am

I think it just frustrates me that we haven’t had a truly liberal court in over 50 years and that’s not going to change.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:36:06am

re: #342 Anymouse 🌹

To be a coward, you have to stand out against a bunch of other people who are not cowards.

So comparing Flake to Republicans in general and calling him a coward really doesn’t work.

Comparing him to someone like Heidi Heidtcamp, yup, he’s a coward.

I’m just comparing him to his own self-professed standards of having a conscious.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:43:39am

*sigh*

God, I hate this era in politics.

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Skip Intro  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:48:33am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

So we’re going to take over the Senate? Good to know.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:49:20am

C’mon google, not cool, not fucking cool…

was just doing a google search for Breyer and they had the “people also searched for” thing and the photo of Ginsburg was a black and white photo from her youth… you only use those when someone is no longer with us.

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Chrysicat  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:49:49am
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can't think of a decent username  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:51:45am

Superhero break! Five-minute-long trailer for “Aquaman”:

AQUAMAN – Extended Video – Only in Theaters December 21

At least the trailers for this one are legitimately excellent. (Though I remember I said the same thing about the “Suicide Squad” trailers.)

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:53:13am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

I think it just frustrates me that we haven’t had a truly liberal court in over 50 years and that’s not going to change.

Even so, it’s a court that approved same sex marriage. Which is pretty remarkable when you consider how this issue was politicized in the early ‘oughts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:53:40am

re: #349 HappyWarrior

I think it just frustrates me that we haven’t had a truly liberal court in over 50 years and that’s not going to change.

We might have had a liberal court if Fortas had not shown himself to be corrupt and in Johnson’s pocket. And actually the pre-Reagan Court was ok on issues, even if a majority of the appointments were Republican. In the old days, Democrat and Republican were not synonymous with liberal and conservative, respectively.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:54:02am

re: #352 Skip Intro

So we’re going to take over the Senate? Good to know.

Well, I don’t know. There is awfully powerful motivation for people to get out and vote.

Democrats have more seats to defend this year and have to take two more than that to gain control of the Senate.

In 2020 those numbers are reversed and Republicans have more seats to defend.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:54:37am

re: #354 Chrysicat

The cloture vote isn’t the one that matters. You can vote for cloture just to get to the final vote, and then vote against (this used to happen all the time, and then our system got broken).

That said, it’s looking like it’s going to be very close, especially if Davies isn’t in town for the final vote.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:56:04am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Even so, it’s a court that approved same sex marriage. Which is pretty remarkable when you consider how this issue was politicized in the early ‘oughts.

It also rebuffed conservatives twice in regard to Obamacare.

The second of those challenges was of course especially ridiculous and should never have risen to that level, but it was a smackdown nonetheless.

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gocart mozart  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:56:27am
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Skip Intro  Oct 5, 2018 • 9:57:33am

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I don’t know. There is awfully powerful motivation for people to get out and vote.

Democrats have more seats to defend this year and have to take two more than that to gain control of the Senate.

In 2020 those numbers are reversed and Republicans have more seats to defend.

2020 is a hell of a long way off. Why knows what voting will be like then. We may be back to rich white male land owners.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:00:49am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Even so, it’s a court that approved same sex marriage. Which is pretty remarkable when you consider how this issue was politicized in the early ‘oughts.

Very true.

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Chrysicat  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:01:20am

re: #362 Skip Intro

The sad part is, I think that’s literally true. The Colorado Senate is all that needs to flip red to get that Article V Convention called, so we may not even be under the 1788 Constitution when 2020 rolls around.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:01:44am

re: #357 Hecuba’s daughter

We might have had a liberal court if Fortas had not shown himself to be corrupt and in Johnson’s pocket. And actually the pre-Reagan Court was ok on issues, even if a majority of the appointments were Republican. In the old days, Democrat and Republican were not synonymous with liberal and conservative, respectively.

I know the history and yeah the Burger Court wasn’t all bad, they actually did Roe and Eisenstadt.

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danarchy  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:02:03am

re: #359 KGxvi

The cloture vote isn’t the one that matters. You can vote for cloture just to get to the final vote, and then vote against (this used to happen all the time, and then our system got broken).

That said, it’s looking like it’s going to be very close, especially if Davies isn’t in town for the final vote.

They are saying if necessary they can hold the vote open overnight so he can vote sunday morning, so I don’t think that will change the final calculus.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:02:17am

re: #362 Skip Intro

2020 is a hell of a long way off. Why knows what voting will be like then. We may be back to rich white male land owners.

And the 2020 map, if you’re looking at it like an electoral college map, doesn’t necessarily have a lot of pick up opportunities for Democrats. Depending on how the presidential election shakes out, we’re looking at Montana, Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and maybe North Carolina.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:02:20am

He’s so dumb that he has a recent reply to @AmyMek

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:02:27am

Repost because…hell:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:03:00am

re: #361 gocart mozart

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Fred should get his balls cut off like a true MAGAer.

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Skip Intro  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:04:07am

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:04:18am

re: #361 gocart mozart

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And if the “old metoo woman” is carrying a gun as the NRA tells her to do?

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:05:09am

re: #364 Chrysicat

The sad part is, I think that’s literally true. The Colorado Senate is all that needs to flip red to get that Article V Convention called, so we may not even be under the 1788 Constitution when 2020 rolls around.

A convention would be a disaster. And I seriously doubt that anything would even come out of a convention, and even if something did I doubt it would be ratified.

A more likely result of a convention would be a dissolution of the Union.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:05:16am

re: #356 Sir John Barron

Even so, it’s a court that approved same sex marriage. Which is pretty remarkable when you consider how this issue was politicized in the early ‘oughts.

Kavanaugh replaces Kennedy — this decision will be reversed in 2020 unless the Democrats get control of the Senate this year and prevent the appointment of any additional RW justices.

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Chrysicat  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:08:33am

re: #373 KGxvi

A convention would be a disaster. And I seriously doubt that anything would even come out of a convention, and even if something did I doubt it would be ratified.

A more likely result of a convention would be a dissolution of the Union.

Is it wrong of me to say that if it gets to the point of a convention, and it probably will, I’d welcome said dissolution, just as long as I’m not on the side that has to start living under a defaced St. Andrew’s Cross?

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:11:29am

re: #374 Hecuba’s daughter

Kavanaugh replaces Kennedy — this decision will be reversed in 2020 unless the Democrats get control of the Senate this year and prevent the appointment of any additional RW justices.

It’s a lot harder to overturn a case that recognizes a constitutional right than it is to overturn a case that did not recognize a constitutional right. Even the most strident social conservative judge would have to answer questions like: what happens to all the marriages that were legally entered into when between the two decisions? If you’re returning the question to the states, what about full faith and credit that’s protected in the federal constitution?

Then there’s the very real possibility that whatever logic you use in overturning a constitutional right will get used in other cases and once you let that genie out of the bottle, you’re talking about serious long term consequences.

What makes Roe and Casey different is the Court created these funky standards like the undue burden test, which lets states chip away because they can argue that any burden isn’t an undue burden right up to the point of making it illegal - basically it gives them cover to regulate abortion out of existence.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:11:57am

re: #373 KGxvi

A convention would be a disaster. And I seriously doubt that anything would even come out of a convention, and even if something did I doubt it would be ratified.

A more likely result of a convention would be a dissolution of the Union.

If there is no agreement on issues — there is likely no dissolution. However, less than 40% of the population can pass amendments that affect the entire country. The Koch brothers are salivating at destroying this country.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:13:34am

re: #377 Hecuba’s daughter

If there is no agreement on issues — there is likely no dissolution. However, less than 40% of the population can pass amendments that affect the entire country. The Koch brothers are salivating at destroying this country.

I guess we need to outlive them then. While taxes are not a sure thing (especially for the very rich), death is.

Once both Koch Brothers are gone, their empire will be torn apart over heirs fighting over the leftovers.

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KGxvi  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:14:03am

re: #375 Chrysicat

Is it wrong of me to say that if it gets to the point of a convention, and it probably will, I’d welcome said dissolution, just as long as I’m not on the side that has to start living under a defaced St. Andrew’s Cross?

I live in California, so I sort of go back and forth on it. But there’s no telling what the lines on the map would look like in that scenario.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:16:51am

51 Republicans in the Senate and not a single spine for any of them.

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Targetpractice  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:18:51am

So wait, if we dissolve, does that mean we’re Brits again? Because if it means I get access to the BBC archives, I’m cool with it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:24:45am

Matty “Bridge Troll” Moroun hiding in his cave

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:26:40am
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Belafon  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:30:37am

re: #380 Eclectic Cyborg

51 Republicans in the Senate and not a single spine for any of them.

Murkowski did vote no on closure.

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can't think of a decent username  Oct 5, 2018 • 10:32:10am

re: #375 Chrysicat

Is it wrong of me to say that if it gets to the point of a convention, and it probably will, I’d welcome said dissolution, just as long as I’m not on the side that has to start living under a defaced St. Andrew’s Cross?

Dissolution of the union would mean a dozen mini-countries across the continent. And more than likely, all of them would go hard-fascist. It’s not like the red states have all been south of the Mason-Dixon line.

I’d probably be more worried if I lived in a non-fascist state, because I don’t doubt that the pro-fascist states would enthusiastically nuke California, Massachusetts, and anyone else they didn’t like.


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