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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:43:31pm

Nap time; catch y’all later. We shot past the predicted high temp today by 2 degrees, it’s 58F now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:49:49pm

So now that Trump has Kavanagh seated, what are the odds he fires Rosenstein by the end of next week?

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thecommodore  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:51:28pm

For those who could use a laugh.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:52:53pm

washingtonpost.com

So, the Senators that confirmed Kavanaugh represent 44.2% of the population.

At the end of the article, the writer included this:

There are two responses that are sure to ensue from this article and that I will dispatch with here, long past any of those eager to offer them will have stopped reading.

The first is the common complaint that polling is hopelessly flawed and inaccurate, a complaint that is generally offered only about polls that the reader doesn’t like. Anyway, it’s not true.

The second is that America is a republic, don’t you know, and this is how the system was built to work. To which the curt response is that, yes, as someone who writes about politics for a living, I am aware of the Senate and the electoral college. It is worth noting, though, that this structure can at times conflict with the precept that all men are created equal.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:53:29pm

re: #3 thecommodore

Charles posted the first two yesterday with his own reply for name confusion.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:54:36pm

re: #4 Belafon

washingtonpost.com

So, the Senators that confirmed Kavanaugh represent 44.2% of the population.

At the end of the article, the writer included this:

We need to expand the size of the House and possibly the Senate too.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2018 • 2:57:57pm
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Belafon  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:12:58pm

I got an email from MoveOn, and while I agree with most of it, they’re either trying to pull the wool over people or can’t do percentages properly:

And if you think this upcoming election is in the bag, it’s not. New polling data shows a spike in Republican enthusiasm about the midterm elections, suggesting higher-than-expected Republican turnout. Now, the number of Democrats and Republicans who say the November elections are “very important” is a statistical tie.

That not actually what it means when the percentages are the same, since the number of self-identified Democrats is at 40% of the voting population while it’s at 28% for Republicans.

That’s not to discount that this is going to be a very tight election and we need to harness that anger to get people to vote.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:18:16pm

re: #8 Belafon

I got an email from MoveOn, and while I agree with most of it, they’re either trying to pull the wool over people or can’t do percentages properly:

That not actually what it means when the percentages are the same, since the number of self-identified Democrats is at 40% of the voting population while it’s at 28% for Republicans.

That’s not to discount that this is going to be a very tight election and we need to harness that anger to get people to vote.

I think they are going after the media narrative that Kavanaugh’s treatment has now made this race a tossup. I’ve heard it several times already. Bill Maher mentioned it last night. Local news here in Columbus has made that part of their reports.

Everyone wants and loves a horse race in the media.

It might just be smart to go with the talk going around so to fight it.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:26:34pm

I like this: dailykos.com. The basic premise is that if Republicans want to stop Soros spending money on Democrats, all they have to do is pass an amendment overturning Citizens United.

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Interesting Times  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:26:41pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

These numbers (i.e. Dem leads) are way the hell too close for comfort. It’s looking like Heitkamp’s seat is gone :( (then again, she was also far behind in polls prior to winning in 2012, so…massive Dem turnout in ND could save her yet):

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:29:25pm

re: #11 Interesting Times

That Blue Wave, where’d it go? Starting to look like the Huge Hillary “win” in 2016. WTF is wrong with the voters in this country?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:31:52pm

For the GOP this was worth allowing and condoning an attack on our electoral system by a foreign adversary. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were illegitimate from November 2016.

But we’re stuck with them. Time to move onward to November 2018 and 2020 and beyond.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:38:02pm

Sometimes FB provides what I need at the time I need it.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:40:59pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Sometimes FB provides what I need at the time I need it.

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Sometimes it is real hard to laugh at the truth, even if it is funny.

America in four images.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:41:56pm

re: #15 ObserverArt

Very true.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:45:05pm

re: #13 Barefoot Grin

They want us to fight each other too. We simply have to start running solid candidates from school boards to the White House. This is how conservatives won so much power, they’ve been playing a long game since at least the 70’s.

I grew up in an evangelical right wing end times Amway family. My parents were double diamond direct distributors in the early days of that company. Somewhere there’s a pic of me and my siblings in front of our AmVan with the stupid company logo plastered on the side. I heard the adult conversations in the 70s And late 60s, they were determined to remake the government into their own image. They mostly succeeded. We need a strong short game to be sure but there needs to be a serious remaking of a long term goal to take our shit back from these retrograde assholes.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:46:34pm

re: #17 A Mom Anon

They want us to fight each other too. We simply have to start running solid candidates from school boards to the White House. This is how conservatives won so much power, they’ve been playing a long game since at least the 70’s.

I grew up in an evangelical right wing end times Amway family. My parents were double diamond direct distributors in the early days of that company. Somewhere there’s a pic of me and my siblings in front of our AmVan with the stupid company logo plastered on the side. I heard the adult conversations in the 70s And late 60s, they were determined to remake the government into their own image. They mostly succeeded. We need a strong short game to be sure but there needs to be a serious remaking of a long term goal to take our shit back from these retrograde assholes.

We need something to respond to the conservative movement the same way they had something to respond to ours. I want us to play the same hard ball games and if necessarily go nasty.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:51:42pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

I’m a rape and abuse survivor and here’s what that shit taught me:

You cannot make nice with evil. You fight back with every trick in the book enough to subdue the evil. You don’t have to become evil to fight dirty, not when life is at stake. You can be good even when it requires getting your hands dirty. And sometimes, taking the high road really only means you have farther to fall when you get pushed off. This is no time to rise above jack shit. Some of these motherfuckers are talking about murdering us for fucks sake.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:53:07pm

re: #19 A Mom Anon

I’m a rape and abuse survivor and here’s what that shit taught me:

You cannot make nice with evil. You fight back with every trick in the book enough to subdue the evil. You don’t have to become evil to fight dirty, not when life is at stake. You can be good even when it requires getting your hands dirty. And sometimes, taking the high road really only means you have farther to fall when you get pushed off. This is no time to rise above jack shit. Some of these motherfuckers are talking about murdering us for fucks sake.

You are right. Man frustrating day. I am just sick of my stomach thinking about this Kavanaugh could very well still be making decisions as I enter my 60’s. That guy. Sigh.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:55:40pm

re: #18 HappyWarrior

We need something to respond to the conservative movement the same way they had something to respond to ours. I want us to play the same hard ball games and if necessarily go nasty.

I’d go with though, pointed and unrelenting.

Keep it hard and factual and pound them on those facts as much as possible. No backing off a point.

And damn good commercials. There is plenty video out there to paint them as bad for America. Would be nice if some of Hollywood folks got with good writers and make them as powerful as can be.

It will just appear nasty because that is how it will be seen.

We just saw it.

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Citizen K  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:56:10pm

re: #11 Interesting Times

re: #12 Skip Intro

This is why I can’t discount the bullshit claim from McConnell and idiots about ‘you made us do this’. Yes, it’s bullshit, but it’s effective bullshit for those who waffle, and it seems to work on those desperate to look ‘independent’. And because hate is the fucking most powerful thing in politics. Spite may very well be god almighty, because it powers through all logic and reason. Hate and spite may be all the GOP has, but t’s all they seem to fucking need, because it’s fucking all powerful far as potlics go. That’s the lesson of ‘16 and now it seems.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:57:04pm

I’m mad at a lot of people today:
People who thought HRC wasn’t pure enough so they stayed home or voted Stein
People who believed all the worst about her while ignoring Trump’s faults.
McConnell for the Garland shit
Kavanaugh for being a shit person who has never had any accountability in his life.
The right wing rank and file: whose giant tantrum over Obama is why we are where we are.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 3:58:09pm

re: #21 ObserverArt

I’d go with though, pointed and unrelenting.

Keep it hard and factual and pound them on those facts as much as possible. No backing off a point.

And damn good commercials. There is plenty video out there to paint them as bad for America. Would be nice if some of Hollywood folks got with good writers and make them as powerful as can be.

It will just appear nasty because that is how it will be seen.

We just saw it.

Sounds good. I just needed to blow off steam earlier. I’m worried.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:01:17pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:02:48pm

re: #17 A Mom Anon

They want us to fight each other too. We simply have to start running solid candidates from school boards to the White House. This is how conservatives won so much power, they’ve been playing a long game since at least the 70’s.

I grew up in an evangelical right wing end times Amway family. My parents were double diamond direct distributors in the early days of that company. Somewhere there’s a pic of me and my siblings in front of our AmVan with the stupid company logo plastered on the side. I heard the adult conversations in the 70s And late 60s, they were determined to remake the government into their own image. They mostly succeeded. We need a strong short game to be sure but there needs to be a serious remaking of a long term goal to take our shit back from these retrograde assholes.

Thank you for this. I’ve heard other versions—the cheaply made newsletters that were early versions of Fox News and the growing mailing lists that became the Tea Party. But I don’t think I’ve heard from someone who actually grew up in it.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:03:12pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Next, Brett Kavanaugh will complain about teens drinking too much.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:03:59pm

re: #26 Barefoot Grin

Thank you for this. I’ve heard other versions—the cheaply made newsletters that were early versions of Fox News and the growing mailing lists that became the Tea Party. But I don’t think I’ve heard from someone who actually grew up in it.

I’d be happy to be part of a movement that makes every spot on the map of this country a battleground for liberalism.

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Citizen K  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:04:17pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Next, Brett Kavanaugh will complain about teens drinking too much.

McConnell complaining about partisanship and destruction of process and mores. Oh. Wait.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:04:23pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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Chuck Todd complaining about whataboutism is peak irony

He means progressives expressing arguments based on facts and reason.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:06:46pm

Chuck Todd averts his eyes:

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:06:56pm

Watching MSNBC broadcasting a reporter from the Trump self-congratulation party tonight. In the background is the Stones’ “Play with Fire.” I wish Keith could take a swing at Trump with his Telecaster.

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Citizen K  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:07:15pm

re: #30 Barefoot Grin

Chuck Todd complaining about whataboutism is peak irony

He means progressives expressing arguments based on facts and reason.

His complaint about whataboutism isn’t even irony. It’s projection.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:08:13pm

re: #31 jaunte

Chuck Todd averts his eyes:

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Marco, do you not remember the movement that you owe your career in Washington to? Please just stop acting like right wing activists are nothing but polite to Democratic and liberal lawmakers because we both know that’s a load of shit. By the way, you’re a pathetic freak who does nothing but act like a moral arbiter when you’re really one of the biggest partisan hacks in Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:09:42pm

I might feel a little sympathetic to these people being yelled at if they did Townhalls but they don’t do townhalls. They just hide out with their wealthy donors and don’t dare to face the voters because they know they’re not doing what the voters want.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:11:04pm

Gun show in town next Friday. Payday too. I’m currently without a working handgun. Time to make sure I can carry on case any of these Nazi fucks feel froggy.

Depending what I can find, 9 mm or 357….

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:13:07pm

re: #36 William Lewis

Gun show in town next Friday. Payday too. I’m currently without a working handgun. Time to make sure I can carry on case any of these Nazi fucks feel froggy.

Depending what I can find, 9 mm or 357….

What are the relative merits of each? Asking as someone who has never shot anything except a .22 at my Granddad’s farm and in Boy Scouts.

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jaunte  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:14:41pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:14:45pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

Chuck Todd ✔
@chucktodd
Wish there was a way to filter #whataboutism off of Twitter. Too many folks on twitter can’t make a pro active case for something so they resort to a lazy “what about” trope.

9:29 AM - Oct 6, 2018

I got nothing.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:15:14pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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I had a few seconds of questioning my sanity when I read that tweet.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:20:53pm

Democratic Senator Says He Could Support Trump in 2020 Election

Guess who.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:21:21pm

re: #31 jaunte

If these self important assholes would talk to their constituents and gave a shit then they would not have to worry about our anger. These motherfuckers are too insulated and goddamned secure in their jobs. I think we need to start hammering them in public more, not less. Same goes for their fucking media mouthpieces. If they’re so worried about Soros and the Clinton Foundation then let’s let them take on Citizens United and legislate some sanity back into the process. That’s the kind of shit these whiny brats need to be hammered with. All.Day. Every. Day.

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uriel  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:26:08pm

re: #37 Barefoot Grin

What are the relative merits of each? Asking as someone who has never shot anything except a .22 at my Granddad’s farm and in Boy Scouts.

357 are a bigger and more powerful round, but because of that are more expensive to use in target shooting by a lot, and are mostly made as revolvers rather than semi-auto. (Many also take 38 special round, which have the same limitations and benefits, but less so.)

9mm are smaller and probably the most common round after the .22, which makes them cheaper to train with (by about half, last I checked). They are also more commonly made as semi-autos, if you like that sort of thing.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:29:00pm

re: #12 Skip Intro

That Blue Wave, where’d it go? Starting to look like the Huge Hillary “win” in 2016. WTF is wrong with the voters in this country?

That’s actually a pretty good result in the Senate. We face literally the most brutal election map in a century - we’re defending 26 seats, they’re defending 9. Many of those seats are in heavily Trump states.

The probability of taking the Senate, according to Nate Silver, was never better than 1 in 3, and now it’s a little less than 1 in 4.

Turnout is EVERYTHING.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:29:55pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s actually a pretty good result in the Senate. We face literally the most brutal election map in a century - we’re defending 26 seats, they’re defending 9. Many of those seats are in heavily Trump states.

The probability of taking the Senate, according to Nate Silver, was never better than 1 in 3, and now it’s a little less than 1 in 4.

Turnout is EVERYTHING.

And then in 2020, a lot of theirs are on the defensive. That will be refreshing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:31:03pm

Welp… I think I am going to get written out of the will for this one.

If you think that Brett Kavanaugh’s selection to the Supreme Court is a good thing purely on the basis of abortion, or Obamacare, or because he is a Republican, then we are going to have an issue. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Being pro-life is more than just being anti-abortion, being a Christian is more than being a Republican, and being an American means fairly and justly investigating all allegations, not railroading a candidate with serious and credible allegations against him into a seat on the highest court of appeal just because you have a political majority.

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ipsos  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:31:25pm

re: #41 Skip Intro

Democratic Senator Says He Could Support Trump in 2020 Election

Guess who.

Manchin is useful only insofar as he’s the 51st vote for Schumer as majority leader.

If he’s the 51st Democrat in the next Senate, we need him and we need him very badly, as unreliable as he is.

If he’s the 52nd Democrat or the 50th… not so much.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:32:48pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

The probability of taking the Senate, according to Nate Silver, was never better than 1 in 3, and now it’s a little less than 1 in 4.

That was more than his probability that DT would win the presidency, as I recall.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:32:50pm

re: #43 uriel

357 are a bigger and more powerful round, but because of that are more expensive to use in target shooting by a lot, and are mostly made as revolvers rather than semi-auto. 9mm are smaller and probably the most common round after the .22, which makes them cheaper to train with (by about half, last I checked). They are also more commonly made as semi-autos, if you like that sort of thing.

Ha! As I read this I had Dirty Harry suddenly jump in my mind to remind me: “do you feel lucky, punk?”

Seems like the 9mm would offer more affordable options.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:33:13pm

re: #47 ipsos

I don’t want Schumer as majority leader.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:33:18pm

re: #49 Barefoot Grin

Ha! As I read this I had Dirty Harry suddenly jump in my mind to remind me: “do you feel lucky, punk?”

Seems like the 9mm would offer more options.

9 mm used to be the standard issue for police departments, I don’t know if that is still true.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:34:45pm

re: #48 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

That was more than his probability that DT would win the presidency, as I recall.

Pretty sure he had that right around 33%, if I remember correctly (which is in doubt on most days, and is about to become a whole lot more spotty).

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:36:43pm

re: #51 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

9 mm used to be the standard issue for police departments, I don’t know if that is still true.

Personally, I’d be more likely to kill myself or a family member accidentally than the attacker, but I’d opt for the “wound” over “kill” option, I think (though I know both can be lethal).

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ipsos  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:37:59pm

re: #50 Skip Intro

I don’t want Schumer as majority leader.

I’m fine with him. Or with any Democrat. But Schumer in particular (like Reid before him) knows where all the levers of power are and how to pull them. And he’s been fighting so hard from the minority side all these years. The Senate still respects seniority, and he’s earned it.

I am vehemently opposed to getting caught up in internecine infighting.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:38:20pm

re: #37 Barefoot Grin

What are the relative merits of each? Asking as someone who has never shot anything except a .22 at my Granddad’s farm and in Boy Scouts.

9mm: lots of available firearms and amm o. NATO standard. Good performance in its intended role. For practical purposes only available in semi-auto pistols, many of which are designed to be easy to carry but are not easy to shoot. Lots of practice needed for the little ones. I would probably be looking for a surplus Star BM. Not as compact but easier to shoot.

.38 special/+P/.357 Magnum: the ultimate evolution of the police revolver. Smith and Wesson, a 4” barrel, and blue steel like the cop shows of the past. Performance ranges from puffball .38 special for target shooting to firebreathing magnums fit to stop bears all from the same gun. Absolute reliability - I’ve seen k frames that were not touched for decades be picked up and fired perfectly. Autos aren’t going to do that ;) modern revolvers can do 7 or 8 rounds.

Why yes, I’m a old revolver guy. :D

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:38:24pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

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One of these days, Chuck U will snort too much of the Magic Balance Fairy Dust and he’ll wind up in an Arby’s frying the potato cakes while Luke Russert tries to keep from losing a finger on the meat slicer…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:39:19pm

re: #36 William Lewis

Gun show in town next Friday. Payday too. I’m currently without a working handgun. Time to make sure I can carry on case any of these Nazi fucks feel froggy.

Depending what I can find, 9 mm or 357….

I like wheelguns. And lever guns. But then, I like mechanical watches, bow’n’arrows, steel frame bicycles, and American muscle cars.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:39:47pm

I know this guy

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:40:02pm

re: #41 Skip Intro

Democratic Senator Says He Could Support Trump in 2020 Election

Guess who.

We’re going to get 8 fucking crazy years of Trump, aren’t we?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:41:05pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope not.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:41:30pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re going to get 8 fucking crazy years of Trump, aren’t we?

No. His reelection is far from certain.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:41:48pm

Wait, is there ANOTHER Trump rally tonight?

JFC.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:43:19pm

It’s important to remember this: Yes, this was political grandstanding of the highest order. Basically, the Republicans asserting their dominance for winning the 2016 election. BUT WE ARE NOT BEATEN YET. This will be discouraging for a lot of people, but if we can break the air of inevitability and get back on the offensive, we’ve already seen that there are more of us than there are of them. We CAN make a difference in 2018, and maybe get rid of some of these evil fuckers if we elect the right people. It’s most important to get out there and BE PASSIONATE. DON’T QUIT. If we roll over and die, we LOSE. That was 2016. We’re smarter than that now.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:43:41pm

re: #56 Joe Bacon 🌹

One of these days, Chuck U will snort too much of the Magic Balance Fairy Dust and he’ll wind up in an Arby’s frying the potato cakes while Luke Russert tries to keep from losing a finger on the meat slicer…

Heh, I have totally forgotten Luke Russert.

He has parked his career hasn’t he?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:44:16pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

And you’ve liked every Rube Goldberg you’ve ever seen right? And prolly a “Forged in Fire” junky as well….. Uh Huh!!

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:45:04pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, is there ANOTHER Trump rally tonight?

JFC.

Who’s paying for all this campaign air time?

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:45:15pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re going to get 8 fucking crazy years of Trump, aren’t we?

or more.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:45:18pm

re: #66 Dave In Austin

Who’s paying for all this campaign air time?

We, the People.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:45:36pm

re: #66 Dave In Austin

Who’s paying for all this campaign air time?

Got a mirror?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:47:34pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

Heh, I have totally forgotten Luke Russert.

He has parked his career hasn’t he?

Yeah.

See what endlessly kissing Republican ass did to him? They got tired of his sniveling and groveling and just flushed his sleazy ass down the john.

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uriel  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:48:21pm

re: #49 Barefoot Grin

Ha! As I read this I had Dirty Harry suddenly jump in my mind to remind me: “do you feel lucky, punk?”

Seems like the 9mm would offer more affordable options.

When you add in the availably of firearms, that is definitely true, especially if you’re looking to get proficient rather than just being able to say “I has gun.” I bought a 357 a while back on a fluke (some cop was selling it for $100 or so), which I took to a range a couple of times before I realized I didn’t have $90 to spare every time I wanted to send a reasonable amount of rounds down the lane. Now it just sits around collecting dust.

My bow, on the other hand, I can plink around with for hours and never need to buy a new arrow.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:49:20pm

re: #62 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, is there ANOTHER Trump rally tonight?

JFC.

He is now in campaign mode and on the road to help all this election’s Republican candidates.

He will do this talking one minute about the candidate and then on to talking about himself. A lot, much of what is now familiar.

I think I saw where he has these schedule for the next three weeks.

Yes, it is another Trump rally. More coming.

Run on Trump, and say nothing. He will speak for you.

And the bad thing, it works for them.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:51:09pm

Doesn’t seem ethical… Is it? It seems he’s flying somewhere every night for his “Fascism in Motion” rallies. WTF?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:52:48pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

Doesn’t seem ethical… Is it? It seems he’s flying somewhere every night for his “Fascism in Motion” rallies. WTF?

He is doing his damnedest not to lose in November because he knows if he does, it is the end of his political career and his life as a free man. Ethics went out the window on January 20, 2017.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:52:51pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

Doesn’t seem ethical… Is it? It seems he’s flying somewhere every night for his “Fascism in Motion” rallies. WTF?

Is there anything ethical about him?

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:53:24pm

re: #71 uriel

When you add in the availably of firearms, that is definRrloaditely true, especially if you’re looking to get proficient rather than just being able to say “I has gun.” I bought a 357 a while back on a fluke (some cop was selling it for $100 or so), which I took to a range a couple of times before I realized I didn’t have $90 to spare every time I wanted to send a reasonable amount of rounds down the lane. Now it just sits around collecting dust.

My bow, on the other hand, I can plink around with for hours and never need to buy a new arrow.

reloading. I can afford much more shooting that way :)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:54:17pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Is there anything ethical about him?

Why Franky Graham Cracker and the Pulpit Pimps say that Trump is the Greatest Christian to ever sit in the Oval Office!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:55:37pm

re: #71 uriel

When you add in the availably of firearms, that is definitely true, especially if you’re looking to get proficient rather than just being able to say “I has gun.” I bought a 357 a while back on a fluke (some cop was selling it for $100 or so), which I took to a range a couple of times before I realized I didn’t have $90 to spare every time I wanted to send a reasonable amount of rounds down the lane. Now it just sits around collecting dust.

My bow, on the other hand, I can plink around with for hours and never need to buy a new arrow.

I did archery in Boy Scouts, too. I sucked, but I loved it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:56:05pm

The ironic thing to me is, if Trump had never gotten elected, he never would have come under such severe scrutiny. He may have been able to fly just under the radar until he died of old age, syphilis, or cirrhosis of the liver. His sudden appearance under the spotlight of the Mueller investigation guaranteed his eventual downfall; now it is just a matter of timing, to which he is reacting by trying to draw it out as long as possible. I’m going to do my best to make sure that does NOT happen.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 6, 2018 • 4:56:54pm

re: #79 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The ironic thing to me is, if Trump had never gotten elected, he never would have come under such severe scrutiny. He may have been able to fly just under the radar until he died of old age, syphilis, or cirrhosis of the liver. His sudden appearance under the spotlight of the Mueller investigation guaranteed his eventual downfall; now it is just a matter of timing, to which he is reacting by trying to draw it out as long as possible. I’m going to do my best to make sure that does NOT happen.

I hope so.

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Skip Intro  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:03:41pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

Doesn’t seem ethical… Is it? It seems he’s flying somewhere every night for his “Fascism in Motion” rallies. WTF?

Ethical? Is that a joke?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:04:11pm

OT, but in the previous conversation on handguns and bows I revealed that I was a BSA dude. Actually, I am an Eagle Scout and Order of the Arrow veteran. It’s kind of a wonder to remember that to myself now—hey, I spent a night in the woods in northern Wisconsin alone with a tin can and water, a 1/4 lb of hamburger, a knife, a flint and tender kit, and insect repellent. I made a fire, made a sapling burger-holder, made fiddlehead fern soup in the tin can, and basically stayed up all night in my lean-to tending the fire because I was scared of bears. I didn’t know that adults were walking around making sure we were ok until later. Oh and the day of silence the next day! Fun tour down memory lane.

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ObserverArt  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:04:20pm

re: #79 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The ironic thing to me is, if Trump had never gotten elected, he never would have come under such severe scrutiny. He may have been able to fly just under the radar until he died of old age, syphilis, or cirrhosis of the liver. His sudden appearance under the spotlight of the Mueller investigation guaranteed his eventual downfall; now it is just a matter of timing, to which he is reacting by trying to draw it out as long as possible. I’m going to do my best to make sure that does NOT happen.

Trump to Mitch, “Look I have no idea what the fuck happened, but I didn’t think I would win. Our friends the Russians had better results than expected. They own me. I’m in over my head here!!!”

Mitch: “You got the job, let me run the show, you do and say what we want. You get to jet around and act like a President. We get to shove through all the tax cuts, legislation and conservative judges we could ever dream of.

You benefit, you get to be on TV, we protect you and you sign what we put in front of you. They will love you and Fox will make sure of that. I’ll call the Russians and work this out with them. I have contacts too.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:04:30pm

re: #81 Skip Intro

Ethical? Is that a joke?

ars.userfriendly.org

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:06:47pm

re: #82 Barefoot Grin

I understand. My brother-in-law is a scout master. He too reached the Eagle Scout level.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:07:07pm

re: #82 Barefoot Grin

Heh. I’ve never told anyone this outside of meatspace friends and the family who know, but I underwent the same rigors and rituals - but it was a religiously indoctrinated version, co-opted by an evangelical sect to infuse their young boys/men with religious fervor as well as outdoorsman skills. So while I’m the equivalent of an Eagle Scout, the BSA would never recognize me as such.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:12:02pm

re: #86 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Heh. I’ve never told anyone this outside of meatspace friends and the family who know, but I underwent the same rigors and rituals - but it was a religiously indoctrinated version, co-opted by an evangelical sect to infuse their young boys/men with religious fervor as well as outdoorsman skills. So while I’m the equivalent of an Eagle Scout, the BSA would never recognize me as such.

I was never a scout, but I caught a bluegill in the Wisconsin woods. My uncle showed me how to clean it (by cleaning the ones he caught). I cleaned it and ate it. And I hit the paper plate stuck on a tree, with a BB gun, first try.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:12:31pm
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uriel  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:14:16pm

re: #78 Barefoot Grin

I did archery in Boy Scouts, too. I sucked, but I loved it.

I’m ok. I did once manage to (completely by accident) robin-hood two aluminum arrows so tightly that they’re still stuck together on my mantle. So, as far as anyone else knows, I’m Green Arrow come to life. And I do as little to disabuse them of that notion as I can.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:14:48pm

re: #87 wrenchwench

I was never a scout, but I caught a bluegill in the Wisconsin woods. My uncle showed me how to clean it (by cleaning the ones he caught). I cleaned it and ate it. And I hit the paper plate stuck on a tree, with a BB gun, first try.

Nicely done! Cleaning fish is above my pay grade, but my mom learned from an excellent tutor. Her dad was the local fisherman-guru, and her mom cleaned and fried all sorts of fish. She was “lucky” enough to get to help in the kitchen.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:15:54pm

re: #86 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Heh. I’ve never told anyone this outside of meatspace friends and the family who know, but I underwent the same rigors and rituals - but it was a religiously indoctrinated version, co-opted by an evangelical sect to infuse their young boys/men with religious fervor as well as outdoorsman skills. So while I’m the equivalent of an Eagle Scout, the BSA would never recognize me as such.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:23:26pm
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TedStriker  Oct 6, 2018 • 5:36:33pm

re: #91 Barefoot Grin

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uriel  Oct 7, 2018 • 12:24:16am

re: #76 William Lewis

reloading. I can afford much more shooting that way :)

I keep meaning to look into that, but there’s a part of me that wants someone professional to handle the explody stuff. I’m sure I could do it, but that first shot is still a bit of a leap of faith…


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