The Bob Cesca Show: Victimhood

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Victimhood — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Big guest announcement for our interview show; Trevor Noah’s magnificent speech about male victimhood; Kavanaugh confirmed; Susan Collins’ ridiculous speech; The GOP Suicide; Nikki Haley resigns; Good news for the midterms; Women voters rising up; Russia might not interfere; The enthusiasm gap; The sheer volume of stupid people in America; Forming a coalition to repair the Trump disaster; and so much more.

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269 comments

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:29:54am
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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:35:11am

A ‘Muslim event.’ WTAF?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:36:32am

well, except for that big rally in Pennsylvania…can’t disappoint those people.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:37:09am

Just posted this after a rather disturbing evening spent talking with a friend who works at a clinic - it’s about “Doomsday Plans” for a post-Roe v. Wade future, where women will have to 3D print the surgical instruments to perform abortions: littlegreenfootballs.com

Maybe they’ve been watching Handmaid’s Tale a bit too much. Or maybe they’ve been listening to Mike Pence and the American Taliban crowing about how they’re going to impose the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions, and life without parole for women who suffer miscarriages.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:38:12am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:38:17am

BTW - all the formatting buttons have disappeared from the comment box, and every time I try to post something, it takes me back to the Home page.

Something be amiss with the back-end coding, boss.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:38:45am
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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:39:57am

re: #5 gocart mozart

All they need to tell him is “Don’t worry, Mitch, we won’t do anything you wouldn’t do.”

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:41:00am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:42:56am

re: #6 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

BTW - all the formatting buttons have disappeared from the comment box, and every time I try to post something, it takes me back to the Home page.

Something be amiss with the back-end coding, boss.

It’s a browser problem - that means Javascript isn’t working, and you probably need to quit and relaunch.

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:43:34am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Probably wouldn’t be the first time in the paper’s history that they openly supported an authoritarian dictator in the name of “freedom.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:44:05am

re: #1 gocart mozart

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It’s a movie. You idiots.

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:44:48am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, except for that big rally in Pennsylvania…can’t disappoint those people.

It would be unfair!
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gwangung  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:45:20am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

It’s a movie. You idiots.

Not to mention that lots of people in real life do the same. Hundreds of thousands own guns, but support better gun control actions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:45:25am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Murdoch is a fascist himself so no shock there.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:46:18am

re: #14 gwangung

Not to mention that lots of people in real life do the same. Hundreds of thousands own guns, but support better gun control actions.

Yep one can support gun control and be a gun owner. So stupid. But it’s FNC.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:48:13am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:48:53am

re: #16 HappyWarrior

Yep one can support gun control and be a gun owner. So stupid. But it’s FNC.

Unpossible!

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:48:58am

Zinke to enter UN chamber on horseback, flying his personal flag.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:50:10am

re: #17 jaunte

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As I said. He likes to recycle his garbage cabinet .

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:50:14am

Okay, that does it. I want Beto to come over to my house.

Had it been Cruz, the poor bunny would have likely died of fright.

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Interesting Times  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:50:50am

re: #19 jaunte

Zinke to enter UN chamber on horseback, flying his personal flag.

Greeting the Japanese delegation with cries of “konnichiwa!”

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:51:11am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

As I said. He likes to recycle his garbage cabinet .

More a case of its easier to get someone who’s already been approved through the Senate now than to try to bring in someone new.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:52:37am

re: #21 makeitstop

Had it been Cruz, the poor bunny would have likely died of fright.

Or the bunny would have gone all “Night of the Lepus” on him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:52:38am

Rand Paul worried about someone getting killed in this political climate.

Republicans still can’t say her name. Her name is Heather Heyer, and she was killed by neo-Nazi supporters of their party.

His wife claims she sleeps with a loaded weapon over at Deadbart. Funny, I live in the middle of Conservatopia and there are more guns than people in my town.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:53:43am

re: #14 gwangung

Not to mention that lots of people in real life do the same. Hundreds of thousands own guns, but support better gun control actions.

This. I own a gun, and I think gun safety laws are appalling in our country.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:54:31am

re: #23 Targetpractice

More a case of its easier to get someone who’s already been approved through the Senate now than to try to bring in someone new.

Right. That’s probably why he does this.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:55:40am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:56:02am

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Right. That’s probably why he does this.

But that would mean another Senate confirmation hearing for the new Interior Sec.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:56:36am

re: #28 Kragar

He meant “for a sitting Republican president.”

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Targetpractice  Oct 10, 2018 • 10:56:39am

re: #28 Kragar

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Seems there’s a few more bugs to work out of Mitch OS v3.0.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:01:02am

The fear mongering over impeachment is to make sure the Trumpbots go to the polls.

It is hardly a coincidence that visible Republicans speak with the same lingo today. Some memo probably went out from the RNC.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:02:28am

re: #28 Kragar

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As opposed to impeaching a retired President, Mitt? And you know what, if he obstructed justice, he should be.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:03:08am

re: #28 Kragar

Mitt Romney: “I don’t think it makes sense to be talking about impeachment, not for a sitting president.”
— Sahil Kapur

After all, it’s never been done before.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:03:14am

re: #29 Sir John Barron

But that would mean another Senate confirmation hearing for the new Interior Sec.

No one accused him of thinking that far ahead

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:04:03am

re: #32 freetoken

The fear mongering over impeachment is to make sure the Trumpbots go to the polls.

It is hardly a coincidence that visible Republicans speak with the same lingo today. Some memo probably went out from the RNC.

According to polls, the Kavanaugh bounce lasted about two days, so they gotta try something else.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:04:07am

re: #32 freetoken

The fear mongering over impeachment is to make sure the Trumpbots go to the polls.

It is hardly a coincidence that visible Republicans speak with the same lingo today. Some memo probably went out from the RNC.

Republicans almost always vote. I don’t see how fearmongering by the GOP drives a significant number of “hidden Republicans” to the polls.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:04:28am

re: #28 Kragar

Mitt Romney: “I don’t think it makes sense to be talking about impeachment, not for a sitting president.”

Mitt seems to have a rather poor memory. Or perhaps the name Bill Clinton doesn’t count, huh? Lemme guess……Republican Presidents can’t be impeached or something?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:04:35am

Hurricane Michael is over land as a Category V hurricane.

SUMMARY OF 100 PM CDT…1800 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…30.0N 85.5W
ABOUT 5 MI…10 KM NW OF MEXICO BEACH FLORIDA
ABOUT 20 MI…30 KM SE OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…155 MPH…250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNE OR 20 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…919 MB…27.41 INCHES

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William Lewis  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:04:53am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

This. I own a gun, and I think gun safety laws are appalling in our country.

Hell. I’m planning on buying a handgun on Friday and I support MUCH stricter gun laws.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:04:56am

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

Republicans almost always vote. I don’t see how fearmongering by the GOP drives a significant number of “hidden Republicans” to the polls.

Because many races will be quite close, so a few thousand voters here and there are important.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:06:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:07:28am

re: #42 gocart mozart

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It’s crazy to me he’s only a year older than me but acts like he was born a century before.

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austin_blue  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:08:24am

Wind gust of 129 mph at Panama City in the last hour.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:10:20am
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ObserverArt  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:10:29am

re: #32 freetoken

The fear mongering over impeachment is to make sure the Trumpbots go to the polls.

It is hardly a coincidence that visible Republicans speak with the same lingo today. Some memo probably went out from the RNC.

I’ve always said they get the day’s talking points from the RNC which probably coordinates them all with Turmp’s White House.

It is so easy to see it because they stick to the script and use the same words.

That party is all about proceeding in lockstep.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:13:07am

This does it. I should apply for asylum right now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:13:19am

re: #44 austin_blue

Wind gust of 129 mph at Panama City in the last hour.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:13:28am

Percentage of followers that are bots, inactive, spam, or propaganda:

Donald Trump (President) - 61.0%
•Kamala Harris (Senator) - 24.4%
•Ted Cruz (Senator) - 26.0%
•Susan Collins (Senator) - 24.6%
•Mike Pence (Vice President) - 41.5%
•Al Gore (Former Vice President) - 41.0%
•Beto O’Rourke (Congressman) - 22.7%
•Barack Obama (former President) - 40.9%
•Mitch McConnell (Senator) - 31.3%
•Jerry Brown (Governor) - 50.0%
•Lindsey Graham (Senator) - 25.3%
•Elizabeth Warren (Senator) - 33.7%
•Hillary Clinton (former Senator) - 43.8%

And those bots would auto-like anything, seriously inflating his numbers.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:13:40am

re: #45 gocart mozart

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Shit.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:14:51am

re: #49 Belafon

Percentage of followers that are bots, inactive, spam, or propaganda:

And those bots would auto-like anything, seriously inflating his numbers.

I for welcome our Bot overlords.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:15:18am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

Hurricane Michael is over land as a Category V hurricane.

SUMMARY OF 100 PM CDT…1800 UTC…INFORMATION
———————————————————————
LOCATION…30.0N 85.5W
ABOUT 5 MI…10 KM NW OF MEXICO BEACH FLORIDA
ABOUT 20 MI…30 KM SE OF PANAMA CITY FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS…155 MPH…250 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT…NNE OR 20 DEGREES AT 14 MPH…22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE…919 MB…27.41 INCHES

not a 5, but close. Wind for a 5 is minimum 157 mph

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:15:39am

re: #45 gocart mozart

Interesting thought. I doubt the other stuff would have sank him, either, but it did change the discussion.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:19:04am

I guess they cynically saw what could happen would in fact happened. I don’t know but I wouldn’t be shocked either way. I’m just sick.

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sagehen  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:23:11am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

This does it. I should apply for asylum right now.

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largest in area — but the State of California has larger population without even having to be a country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:24:03am

re: #55 sagehen

largest in area — but the State of California has larger population without even having to be a country.

last night the moron said the states are now countries.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:25:04am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

last night the moron said the states are now countries.

Wasn’t he just crowing that if he had a 57 state remark the media would be talking about it non stop.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:26:31am

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

last night the moron said the states are now countries.

The People’s Democratic Republic of Nebraska. /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:26:54am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t he just crowing that if he had a 57 state remark the media would be talking about it non stop.

#FakeNews

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:30:11am
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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:30:26am

re: #19 jaunte

Zinke to enter UN chamber on horseback, flying his personal flag.

What does it say about an enterprise that can’t keep it’s staff?
The world is laughing

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:31:09am
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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:31:19am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Our ‘effective response’, ideally, should be an objective media. That objective media has sold its soul for stenography though.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:31:56am

re: #23 Targetpractice

More a case of its easier to get someone who’s already been approved through the Senate now than to try to bring in someone new.

Becasuse all departments run the same and don’t require any specific knowledge

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:32:05am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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I’m glad we don’t but at the same time, that does show what we are up against.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:32:56am

re: #25 Anymouse 🌹

Rand Paul worried about someone getting killed in this political climate.

Republicans still can’t say her name. Her name is Heather Heyer, and she was killed by neo-Nazi supporters of their party.

His wife claims she sleeps with a loaded weapon over at Deadbart. Funny, I live in the middle of Conservatopia and there are more guns than people in my town.

No one’s coming for “Mrs Rand Paul”

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:33:25am

re: #55 sagehen

largest in area — but the State of California has larger population without even having to be a country.

Yeahbut I live closer to Canada.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:35:27am

re: #66 dangerman

No one’s coming for “Mrs Rand Paul”

I wouldn’t even know her if I saw her. I’d probably give her husband some shit but this shit from the son of the guy whose movement encouraged fear and mistrust of all government officials is a joke.

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:36:23am

re: #66 dangerman

No one’s coming for “Mrs Rand Paul”

Exactly right. Mrs. Ferret-head suffers from paranoid delusions, and it’s all liberals’ fault.

Better than half of these assholes could use a good therapist, maybe some drugs.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:36:30am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:39:03am

re: #70 Kragar

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Shit they believe public servants should be able to deny gay people. Hypocrites.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:40:18am

re: #47 The Vicious Babushka

Will you adopt me?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:40:20am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Yeahbut I live closer to Canada.

I’m ninety miles from Colorado. That said, if the GOP gets their hate on, they’ll stamp out that devil jazz weed in short order.

I still have Canadian money left over from my Yukon trip and can be at the Saskatchewan border in a little over a day.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:40:24am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:40:27am

I hate saying this but Kavanaugh being confirmed seems to awaken more of ours than had he been rejected. I hate that it has to be that way tho.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:41:24am

re: #70 Kragar

Political party is not a protected class, wingnuts.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:42:13am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

Political party is not a protected class, wingnuts.

Knowing them they’ll claim religious persecution the same way they insist gays having equality is.

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:43:42am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

We have no Fox tv. We have no talk radio.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:45:18am

re: #78 Skip Intro

We have no Fox tv. We have no talk radio.

I remember when Air America tried to be that. It didn’t work. Frankly because of how we’re wired versus how they are imo.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:46:30am
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plansbandc  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:48:46am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:49:36am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Knowing them they’ll claim religious persecution the same way they insist gays having equality is.

Well, conservatism is arguably a religious cult. Checkmate, liberals.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:50:51am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I remember when Air America tried to be that. It didn’t work. Frankly because of how we’re wired versus how they are imo.

I never heard of Air America until long after they were gone.

There was a progressive talk radio station in Denver until last year or so on AM, which I could (barely) get in my car. They swapped formats though.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:51:16am

Fellow Californians - any idea on any of the propositions this cycle?

I got my sample ballot (ten pages, mostly because so many appellate court judges are up for review), but either haven’t got my voter guide from the Secretary of State or accidentally tossed it with the junk mail.

My natural inclination is to vote “no” unless convinced otherwise, especially on bond measures. But there’s just a lot going on this time.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:52:50am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

Well, conservatism is arguably a religious cult. Checkmate, liberals.

That’s libtard.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:52:55am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

I never heard of Air America until long after they were gone.

There was a progressive talk radio station in Denver until last year or so on AM, which I could (barely) get in my car. They swapped formats though.

There’s a few talk radio stations on Sirius, including a progressive one, I believe. But political talk radio just doesn’t do anything for me - I’d rather listen to podcasts, music, or selective sports talk radio.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:55:03am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

I never heard of Air America until long after they were gone.

There was a progressive talk radio station in Denver until last year or so on AM, which I could (barely) get in my car. They swapped formats though.

TBH I don’t like it. I much prefer discussion rather than a fake populist I.e. Limbaugh or Hannity claiming he understands me. I was never a big fan of the late Ed Schultz even before he went Trump fan and Putin apologist. Not a YT fan either. There are obviously liberal talking heads who I like and whose opinions I value but I find my own conclusions.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:55:59am

re: #86 KGxvi

There’s a few talk radio stations on Sirius, including a progressive one, I believe. But political talk radio just doesn’t do anything for me - I’d rather listen to podcasts, music, or selective sports talk radio.

Ditto. I like listening to people discuss things like sports, music, etc but political radio bores the bejesus outta me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 11:58:44am

the moron is retweeting his own op-ed

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:00:27pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron is retweeting his own op-ed

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You are full of shit. You know less about health care than you do the border.

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:01:58pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t like it. I much prefer discussion rather than a fake populist I.e. Limbaugh or Hannity claiming he understands me. I was never a big fan of the late Ed Schultz even before he went Trump fan and Putin apologist. Not a YT fan either. There are obviously liberal talking heads who I like and whose opinions I value but I find my own conclusions.

I was in attendance for a conference that was the beginning of putting Air America together, in the Hart Office Building in DC on the day of W’s State of the Union address in 2003. A lot of the folks who ended up on AA were there (Randi, Maddow, Sam Seder), as well as a lot who didn’t make the cut (Young Turk - there was only one at the time - Cenk Uygur, who was a complete asshole, Ed Schultz, Mike Malloy). The wife of the man who ended up bankrolling it was bumming cigarettes off of me that night (long story), and I met Hillary Clinton.

Coming out of the Capitol that night, there were armed National Guard every 50 feet and helicopters with searchlights hovering over the Capitol. I’ll never forget that sight. I knew this country was going down a dark path.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:04:36pm

Hurricane Michael is about halfway between the Florida coast and the state line with Georgia.

The eye is still clear on radar.

radar.weather.gov

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:06:02pm

re: #91 makeitstop

I was in attendance for a conference that was the beginning of putting Air America together, in the Hart Office Building in DC on the day of W’s State of the Union address in 2003. A lot of the folks who ended up on AA were there (Randi, Maddow, Sam Seder), as well as a lot who didn’t make the cut (Young Turk - there was only one at the time - Cenk Uygur, who was a complete asshole, Ed Schultz, Mike Malloy). The wife of the man who ended up bankrolling it was bumming cigarettes off of me that night (long story), and I met Hillary Clinton.

Coming out of the Capitol that night, there were armed National Guard every 50 feet and helicopters with searchlights hovering over the Capitol. I’ll never forget that sight. I knew this country was going down a dark path.

I’m sure most are nice people. But yeah I remember 2002-3 and the lead up to the Iraq War well.

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plansbandc  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:06:44pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

I liked it a lot and listened to it all the time. Only one I couldn’t stand was Ed Schultz. I knew he was completely full of shit and was definitely not progressive. Also, he sounded annoyingly like Rush.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:07:49pm

re: #84 KGxvi

My inclination too was to vote “no” in general.

These days I tend to vote “yes” on a few.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:09:39pm

re: #95 freetoken

My inclination too was to vote “no” in general.

These days I tend to vote “yes” on a few.

If I truly don’t know something about a referendum (or a candidate), I leave that line blank.

A “no” vote against a good referendum is just as bad as a “yes” vote for a bad one.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:10:13pm

I was at a rest stop on the 401 yesterday and I went into the shop to buy a drink. The Perrier was on the top shelf of the cooler and I couldn’t reach it, so I turned to this big, tall scary-looking biker guy covered with tattoos & Harley insignia and asked him if he could take it down for me.

“Why of course, it would be my pleasure!” and he asked which flavour did I prefer?

THIS IS SO CANADA.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:10:57pm

re: #95 freetoken

My inclination too was to vote “no” in general.

These days I tend to vote “yes” on a few.

The cage free one seems like a “yes” vote, other than that, I’m leaning “no” on most everything. I’m not sure the rent control one will actually help (we need more housing more than anything).

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:12:06pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron is retweeting his own op-ed

Even liberal USA Today Agrees Dems out to kill healthcare eliminate Borders!

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can't think of a decent username  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:13:04pm

re: #66 dangerman

No one’s coming for “Mrs Rand Paul”

Except for the Russians.

If Vladimir decides Rand isn’t useful to him anymore, who can say what’ll happen? It’s not like Trump would say anything against it…

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:13:51pm

re: #98 KGxvi

Rents in San Diego county have been going crazy the past couple of years. It’s as if we’re trying to catch up to San Francisco or something.

The bottom line, and few want to hear this, is that we need to design (or redesign) our cities for high population densities, and that means mass transit (a very unAmerican thing.)

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:15:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:15:38pm

re: #94 plansbandc

I liked it a lot and listened to it all the time. Only one I couldn’t stand was Ed Schultz. I knew he was completely full of shit and was definitely not progressive. Also, he sounded annoyingly like Rush.

He was not surprisingly a former Wingnut

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:16:28pm

re: #101 freetoken

Rents in San Diego county have been going crazy the past couple of years. It’s as if we’re trying to catch up to San Francisco or something.

The bottom line, and few want to hear this, is that we need to design (or redesign) our cities for high population densities, and that means mass transit (a very unAmerican thing.)

That, and we really don’t need to all be packed in one place anymore.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:16:30pm

re: #102 Unshaken Defiance

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:17:21pm

re: #101 freetoken

Rents in San Diego county have been going crazy the past couple of years. It’s as if we’re trying to catch up to San Francisco or something.

The bottom line, and few want to hear this, is that we need to design (or redesign) our cities for high population densities, and that means mass transit (a very unAmerican thing.)

That’s where the highest rents are here. Along the transit lines that are now zoned for the highest density approved in modern times.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:18:18pm
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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:19:34pm

re: #101 freetoken

Rents in San Diego county have been going crazy the past couple of years. It’s as if we’re trying to catch up to San Francisco or something.

The bottom line, and few want to hear this, is that we need to design (or redesign) our cities for high population densities, and that means mass transit (a very unAmerican thing.)

Rent has been a bit crazy in Long Beach the last few years as well. And I’m fine with mass transit, but I’m not sure how that helps if you have 300,000 people living in a place that only has housing for 275,000 people. And it’s not just about building apartment buildings, but people are still going to want to buy whether it’s a condo or a house, because buying a home is still the best way to build wealth in this country.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:20:53pm

re: #101 freetoken

Rents in San Diego county have been going crazy the past couple of years. It’s as if we’re trying to catch up to San Francisco or something.

The bottom line, and few want to hear this, is that we need to design (or redesign) our cities for high population densities, and that means mass transit (a very unAmerican thing.)

Ostrava - where I live - has a population of about 300,000 and I have to say, an outstanding public transportation network. It’s so good that I don’t even need to own a car.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:21:01pm

re: #104 Belafon

That, and we really don’t need to all be packed in one place anymore.

Packing people in may be better for the environment; when we spread out, we destroy habitat for the non-human species on the planet, as well as pave over fertile farmland, and increase the use of fossil fuels.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:21:12pm

re: #101 freetoken

Rents in San Diego county have been going crazy the past couple of years. It’s as if we’re trying to catch up to San Francisco or something.

The bottom line, and few want to hear this, is that we need to design (or redesign) our cities for high population densities, and that means mass transit (a very unAmerican thing.)

I get that from my sister. “Well, you live in such a conservative area, why don’t you just move someplace like where I live?” (Burbank, Calif.)

Well, on a fixed disability income, places like Burbank are right out. In last night’s planning commission report, my wife presented a “plan to make a plan for a plan” (as she put it) detailing some of the demographic information of the village.

Of note, where the average cost of living in the USA equals 1.00, my town equals 0.71.

That difference is one of the big reasons I live here.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:24:10pm

re: #110 Hecuba’s daughter

Packing people in may be better for the environment; when we spread out, we destroy habitat for the non-human species on the planet, as well as pave over fertile farmland, and increase the use of fossil fuels.

I do think that humans need to minimize their horizontal footprint, but we have plenty of urban areas that are not as dense as San Diego or San Francisco. I also think you can become too dense, because cleanup functions become strained.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:24:35pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Shit.

Why yes, they are.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:26:57pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

I understand. All of us who are retirees are now faced with the uncomfortable position of rapidly dwindling purchasing power of our retirement.

It’s getting awkward here in San Diego to retire with less than a seven figure value for all one’s assets. That may surprise some, but houses around here go for $800k in a median neighborhood. So unless you have that house owned clear and $200k in the bank, retirement starts to become a struggle.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:27:18pm

David Pakman will be in Los Angeles for Politicon. He will be there with Kyle Kulinski to debate Charlie Kirk and Candice Owens on the topic of “should we be more socialist.”

Mr. Pakman notes he is neither a Democrat nor a socialist, so he’s not sure why they asked him about that.

They also scheduled him for other panels and debates.

David to Debate Candace Owens at Politicon w/ Kyle Kulinski

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:28:22pm

No fucking way Trump wrote that op-ed. He either dictated it to someone else who cleaned it up or just signed his name on another persons work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:29:33pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:31:37pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

How do they get all that in such a short course? Eight weeks…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:31:42pm

re: #112 Belafon

I do think that humans need to minimize their horizontal footprint, but we have plenty of urban areas that are not as dense as San Diego or San Francisco. I also think you can become too dense, because cleanup functions become strained.

Well, the population density of my city is 800 per square mile. That said, the estimated population of the town is 128.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:35:50pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

David Pakman will be in Los Angeles for Politicon. He will be there with Kyle Kulinski to debate Charlie Kirk and Candice Owens on the topic of “should we be more socialist.”

Mr. Pakman notes he is neither a Democrat nor a socialist, so he’s not sure why they asked him about that.

They also scheduled him for other panels and debates.

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Moderator: “Tonight, George F. Will and William Kristol debate! The topic: Should the US embrace Socialism? Let’s start with George F. Will: Mr. Will, should the US embrace Socialism?”

GFW: “No.”

Moderator: “How about you, Mr Kristol? Should the US embrace Socialism?”

WC: “No.”

Moderator: “And there you have it! Socialism loses another debate!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:37:18pm

So a suspicious fire in the town to our east.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:38:49pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

He will be there with Kyle Kulinski to debate Charlie Kirk and Candice Owens on the topic of “should we be more socialist.”

That’s an overload of stupid right there.

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TedStriker  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:39:23pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹

So a suspicious fire in the town to our east.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:40:09pm

665 now

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:40:56pm

re: #122 Sir John Barron

That’s an overload of stupid right there.

You could make it into a drinking game. Drink every time somebody says “Venezuela”. Make sure the drinks are SMALL, and low proof, though. Otherwise, people will die.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:41:02pm

re: #124 Single-handed sailor

665 now

“Hey, Brett, we need another scandal.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:41:23pm

re: #124 Single-handed sailor

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665 now

WHEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:41:34pm

re: #124 Single-handed sailor

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665 now

Wake me up when it drops 20%.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:41:46pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:42:06pm

re: #126 Belafon

“Hey, Brett, we need another scandal.”

“Well, Mr. President, I just hire a bunch of lady law clerks…..”

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:43:11pm

re: #129 Kragar

Sean Davis at The Federalist blocks everyone.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:43:54pm

re: #124 Single-handed sailor

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665 now

#somuchwinning

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:44:09pm

re: #129 Kragar

He has a point. I don’t recall Anthony Hopkins ever SAYING he opposed cannibalism. Perhaps we shouldn’t just assume….
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:44:37pm

re: #131 Sir John Barron

Sean Davis at The Federalist blocks everyone.

Makes it easy to win arguments.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:44:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:44:49pm

re: #124 Single-handed sailor

665 now

Well, 665 points isn’t a large percentage of the market. It might be not much more than a hiccough. I suppose you would need to compare that with market performance over a longer period (weeks or months) to get an idea of the general direction.

That said, I know better than to invest diddly in the market. As far as I have ever been able to determine, stock markets exist to transfer wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. (Note the fantastically wealthy did not lose their fortunes in the Great Depression - they made money.)

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:46:21pm

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

One thing also about inflation is that we constantly need to reset our impressions of the importance of numerical values.

Long ago, when I was little, a 600 point move in the DJIA would have been amazing. Today, it’s not quite 3%. Not trivial, but not so big either.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:48:05pm

re: #137 freetoken

One thing also about inflation is that we constantly need to reset our impressions of the importance of numerical values.

Long ago, when I was little, a 600 point move in the DJIA would have been amazing. Today, it’s not quite 3%. Not trivial, but not so big either.

Hell, when I was younger (let’s say, the mid 1980’s) a 600+ point drop in the DJIA would’ve been the harbinger of the apocalypse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:49:16pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

He has a point. I don’t recall Anthony Hopkins ever SAYING he opposed cannibalism. Perhaps we shouldn’t just assume….
///

And the point made about the long anti-gun speech by Charlton Heston in “Planet of the Apes.”

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Sir John Barron  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:49:28pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

Makes it easy to win arguments.

So much winning

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:51:01pm

re: #137 freetoken

One thing also about inflation is that we constantly need to reset our impressions of the importance of numerical values.

Long ago, when I was little, a 600 point move in the DJIA would have been amazing. Today, it’s not quite 3%. Not trivial, but not so big either.

As a vintage watch aficionado, I like to take the original prices and run them through the CPI inflation calculator. Then to put that number in a real context, calculate how many hours or days of an average worker’s pay that would have been.

Most of my watches cost me less than their original price in nominal dollars, so in constant dollars they’re a screamingly great deal!

Well, to me, anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:51:28pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:52:54pm

re: #137 freetoken

One thing also about inflation is that we constantly need to reset our impressions of the importance of numerical values.

Long ago, when I was little, a 600 point move in the DJIA would have been amazing. Today, it’s not quite 3%. Not trivial, but not so big either.

Reminder that in 1929 the Dow Jones peak was 381.17…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:53:14pm

re: #138 Dr Lizardo

Hell, when I was younger (let’s say, the mid 1980’s) a 600+ point drop in the DJIA would’ve been the harbinger of the apocalypse.

Funny you should say that, because in October 1987, the Dow actually DID drop 600 points, and it was a fucking catastrophe.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:54:14pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

What would the $4000 computer I bought in 1993 cost today?

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:55:04pm

re: #145 Belafon

What would the $4000 computer I bought in 1993 cost today?

A few hundred, and they’d call it a ‘smart phone.’

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:57:20pm

re: #145 Belafon

What would the $4000 computer I bought in 1993 cost today?

Does it run Windows 10?
//

Be careful, or you’ll get me started on a long, excruciatingly dull monologue on the development of watches and the cost of accuracy through history.

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lizardofid  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:57:23pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

Funny you should say that, because in October 1987, the Dow actually DID drop 600 points, and it was a fucking catastrophe.

Black Monday

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:57:50pm

re: #145 Belafon

What would the $4000 computer I bought in 1993 cost today?

What would the $2,000 car I bought in 1979 cost today? (Well, to be fair, it was a one-year old Vega with 22,000 miles on it, and gas was less than a dollar.)

Individual products (like a computer or a car) going up or down do not by themselves indicate much.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:58:06pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

Funny you should say that, because in October 1987, the Dow actually DID drop 600 points, and it was a fucking catastrophe.

Indeed, I remember that and yeah, it was a fucking catastrophe.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:58:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 12:59:57pm

re: #148 lizardofid

Black Monday

Indeed. The year or two prior, lots of folks at Genentech, where I worked, had discovered Margin Accounts. We all had stock worth way more than we’d paid for it in the Employee Stock Plan, and we all borrowed against it.

Folks got margin calls, at a time when there were literally no buyers for the stock. That was frightening.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:00:49pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

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At least until November 5th or 6th. Looks like he’s going all-out for team GOP for the mid-terms.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:01:41pm

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

What would the $2,000 car I bought in 1979 cost today? (Well, to be fair, it was a one-year old Vega with 22,000 miles on it, and gas was less than a dollar.)

Individual products (like a computer or a car) going up or down do not by themselves indicate much.

My house, when it was new in 1914 sold for twenty $20 gold pieces, according to the original paperwork (we have that).

When we bought it in 2011, the price was the equivalent of the weight of twenty $20 gold pieces today (not the collectable value). So I guess for our house, in one hundred years it neither gained nor lost value.

On the other hand, maybe it’s worth more now. It has a brand new roof, and the 1914 knob-and-tube wiring was just replaced.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:02:33pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

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Good. The deeper in the bubble he gets, the more a blue wave will destroy him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:02:43pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Indeed. The year or two prior, lots of folks at Genentech, where I worked, had discovered Margin Accounts. We all had stock worth way more than we’d paid for it in the Employee Stock Plan, and we all borrowed against it.

Folks got margin calls, at a time when there were literally no buyers for the stock. That was frightening.

Yikes. Buying stock on margin was what fueled the 1929 stock market crash.

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freetoken  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:02:55pm

For those who missed the video earlier today, storm chaser Brett Adair got stuck on the beach when the eyewall hit. In the video you can see them getting worried about the 30: mark, and have to bail a few minutes later (breaking into) a house for shelter. But the camera was left running.

About 42: you can see the ocean lapping up against the windshield, then the truck acts like it is floating:

Facebook Post

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:03:15pm

I’m afraid to look at my retirement portfolio.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:04:01pm

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

What would the $2,000 car I bought in 1979 cost today? (Well, to be fair, it was a one-year old Vega with 22,000 miles on it, and gas was less than a dollar.)

Individual products (like a computer or a car) going up or down do not by themselves indicate much.

I know. And I also would not buy the type of watches Blind Frog Belly White is talking about.

Edited

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:04:05pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

So Trump’s gonna be holding a mini-Nuremberg rally every single day from now on, is that the deal?

Maybe exhaustion will get the job done.

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sagehen  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:05:20pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I remember when Air America tried to be that. It didn’t work. Frankly because of how we’re wired versus how they are imo.

nah, that’s not why.

It’s because conservatives live in rural areas, they spend a lot of time in their cars listening to the radio. Liberals live in cities, they’re on the subway or the bus or their bikes listening to their i-pods.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:05:57pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes. Buying stock on margin was what fueled the 1929 stock market crash.

Well, this was borrowing against the stock to buy stuff, not other stock. And the rules were tightened a lot after 1929. But, yeah, buying stock on margin and using the increased price to buy still more stock on margin - that way madness lies.

Groucho Marx describes this in his autobiography. He said his broker called him the day of the crash, and said, “Marx? The jig is up.” and hung up.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:07:32pm

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

What would the $2,000 car I bought in 1979 cost today? (Well, to be fair, it was a one-year old Vega with 22,000 miles on it, and gas was less than a dollar.)

Individual products (like a computer or a car) going up or down do not by themselves indicate much.

My 1970 1/2 AMC Gremlin base model cost was for…$1970.50 with tax & license…

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plansbandc  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:08:14pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:10:38pm

Anyone here to care to wager that the GOP will soon have a talking point along the lines of “the stock market is tanking because it’s looking like the Democrats are gonna win”?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:11:17pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

I’m afraid to look at my retirement portfolio.

Good thing I don’t have one of those. /s

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:11:45pm

re: #165 Dr Lizardo

Anyone here to care to wager that the GOP will soon have a talking point along the lines of “the stock market is tanking because it’s looking like the Democrats are gonna win”?

Criswell Bacon predicts you will hear that tonight in Pennsylvania!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:12:07pm

re: #159 Belafon

I know. And I also would not buy the type of watches Blind Frog Belly White is talking about.

Edited

Although it’s worth noting that NEW mechanical watches that do nothing more than tell time are still being sold, and for a LOT more than simple inflation would account for. The Swiss were able to make an item that does a worse job at its primary function into a luxury item, so that people will pay a HUGE premium over a more accurate timepiece.

It’s kinda funny, when you think about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:14:46pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

Although it’s worth noting that NEW mechanical watches that do nothing more than tell time are still being sold, and for a LOT more than simple inflation would account for. The Swiss were able to make an item that does a worse job at its primary function into a luxury item, so that people will pay a HUGE premium over a more accurate timepiece.

It’s kinda funny, when you think about it.

My wife bought a wind-up watch at Shoppers Drug Mart in Regina this year for $14 because we needed a timepiece. Take that, Switzerland.

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:14:53pm

done
finished
over
ended

last tax return went out
the door is now closed on 2017

i have all the way till november 1 before 2018 begins

whose idea was this?

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:17:44pm

re: #170 dangerman

done
finished
over
ended

last tax return went out
the door is now closed on 2017

i have all the way till november 1 before 2018 begins

whose idea was this?

I thought the hurricane got you.

Oh, wait, you’re in Southern Florida…

/

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:18:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:19:19pm

I’m off to take a nap. If the markets are going to take a dump, I hope my banks are still in business.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:19:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:20:39pm

re: #172 Kragar

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:21:37pm

re: #163 Joe Bacon 🌹

My 1970 1/2 AMC Gremlin base model cost was for…$1970.50 with tax & license…

in the early 70’s dodge sold a dart called the swinger
it was 1,995

they were channeling the polaroid swinger camera that sold for 19.95 (yeah, yeah)

YouTube

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:25:02pm

re: #171 wrenchwench

I thought the hurricane got you.

Oh, wait, you’re in Southern Florida…

/

yup - much more souther and my feet would be soggy
my niece bugged out of fsu and came down for the week

its heading for my sister in NC. we’ll see

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:25:22pm

hurricane victims…yer on yer own…

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:26:18pm

re: #174 Charles Johnson

Mainstream media are trying to spin Nikki Haley as a moderate

a moderate what?

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:26:26pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

erie.craigslist.org

“Linestanders needed for Trump Rally on Wednesday October 10 (Erie Insurance Arena)”

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:27:11pm

Kent State Gun Twit remains a twit.

Sadly, the responses show a continued lack of ignorance, including folks insisting that women didn’t really want the vote back then and suffragettes were just crazy activists that destroyed comity or some shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:28:57pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:29:44pm

re: #181 Citizen K

She still hasn’t got a job yet?

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:30:17pm

re: #183 Single-handed sailor

She still hasn’t got a job yet?

Professional conservative trolling and shilling isn’t a job?

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:30:20pm

re: #181 Citizen K

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Kent State Gun Twit remains a twit.

Sadly, the responses show a continued lack of ignorance, including folks insisting that women didn’t really want the vote back then and suffragettes were just crazy activists that destroyed comity or some shit.

it’s that moranic argument that since only men could vote and men held all the positions of government, then all they had to do was say “no”.

since they didnt, they ‘gave’ women the vote
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:30:23pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

I cannot disappoint the thousands of people that are there

Why not? You’ve disappointed millions of people everywhere else.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:30:59pm

re: #183 Single-handed sailor

She still hasn’t got a job yet?

Why work when you can get that sweet Wingnut Welfare?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:31:15pm
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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:31:39pm

re: #185 dangerman

it’s that moranic argument that since only men could vote and men held all the positions of government, then all they had to do was say “no”.

since they didnt, they ‘gave’ women the vote
//

Yep. They act like ‘the men’ just gave them the vote out of the goodness of their hearts or some dumb shit. Ignoring the work done for it that forced the hands of the men in power.

But nope, feminism is a lie because men voted things in ,therefore women did shit… ////

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:32:24pm

John Harwood’s ‘Speakeasy’ interview with John Legend is excellent, BTW.

Might I suggest a follow-up interview with Mr. Legend’s better half?

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:33:10pm
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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:34:17pm

re: #189 Citizen K

Yep. They act like ‘the men’ just gave them the vote out of the goodness of their hearts or some dumb shit. Ignoring the work done for it that forced the hands of the men in power.

But nope, feminism is a lie because men voted things in ,therefore women did shit… ////

it is becoming less and less hard to believe that people are this ignorant

(not the word i wanted to use)

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:34:49pm

re: #191 Single-handed sailor

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Dodging responsibility and blame shifting, all the while reaping the benefits. Yep, standard conservative operating practice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:34:56pm

re: #185 dangerman

it’s that moranic argument that since only men could vote and men held all the positions of government, then all they had to do was say “no”.

since they didnt, they ‘gave’ women the vote
//

Like “White men freed the slaves!”

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:36:19pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

Like “White men freed the slaves!”

Both trains of thought would be hilarious in their stupidity, if they weren’t both so prevalent and so influential. Instead, it’s depressing and pathetic.

We’re a truly gaslit nation.

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nowherenorth2  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:36:43pm

At the gym. And faux news is discussing hurricane Michael. I don’t know where the remote is to change the channel.
Love and behold bill o’harassment comes on via commercial to peddle his book “killing the SS”. I can only assume two things:
1. He has to make some money back
2. It is a conservative bent on history and a joke.
Nice to see that faux stands by it’s assaulters. What a joke

My headphones work great btw haha.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:37:24pm

re: #191 Single-handed sailor

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Ain’t Wingnut Welare so sweet?

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dangerman  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:38:27pm

re: #191 Single-handed sailor

Because the rally was held without a permit, university President Beverly Warren says Bennett “cannot be billed for the costs because the event was not registered with the university.”

because she didnt do it “legally”, she’s off the hook for all the damage she caused

further

Bennett, who complained that she was “attacked by Antifa” while armed at the rally says the loose coalition of leftist activists should be “responsible for the costs.”

so is there a record of this ‘attack’? did she report it immediately to one of the 300 additional officers present?

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Citizen K  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:39:39pm

re: #198 dangerman

because she didnt do it “legally”, she’s off the hook for all the damage she caused

further

so is there a record of this ‘attack’? did she report it immediately to one of the 300 additional officers present?

‘Presumption of innocence’ only works with conservatives and men accused of sexual assault, don’t you know?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:40:23pm

re: #198 dangerman

because she didnt do it “legally”, she’s off the hook for all the damage she caused

further

so is there a record of this ‘attack’? did she report it immediately to one of the 300 additional officers present?

why didn’t she just shoot them? isn’t that her excuse for open carrying that piece of shit?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:41:27pm

re: #195 Citizen K

Both trains of thought would be hilarious in their stupidity, if they weren’t both so prevalent and so influential. Instead, it’s depressing and pathetic.

We’re a truly gaslit nation.

The fact that everyone who hears that nonsense doesn’t just erupt in laughter and say, “Shut the fuck up with that shit!” is already bad, but the fact that a certain number will say, “Yeah, that’s right!” is much worse.

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:43:32pm

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

I’m afraid to look at my retirement portfolio.

[Embedded content]

I just did. Wished I hadn’t. It took me years to make the money I just lost today.

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Kragar  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:43:35pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:45:28pm

it’s almost as if little ms kaitlin is being a wee bit dishonest as to why she needs to open carry such a scary weapon.

my gosh, it’s not for protection after all!

my fainting couch, please…

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:46:09pm

re: #196 nowherenorth2

I think somebody has cranked out around 20 of those titles by now. Pisses me off when I go to Audible and get swamped with his crap, and there’s no way to say “stop showing me this shit”.

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:48:04pm

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

Like Milo before her, her plan seems to be to try to bankrupt universities by forcing them to pay for her “events”. It’s nothing but an extortion scheme and the schools better wise up fast.

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Interesting Times  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:49:34pm

O HAI, HOW ABOUT GOOD NEWS FOR A CHANGE:

Yes, yes, I know his infowars minions are still around, but hey, it’s a partial victory at least…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:49:42pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

Like Milo before her, her plan seems to be to try to bankrupt universities by forcing them to pay for her “events”. It’s nothing but an extortion scheme and the schools better wise up fast.

“Wait! What do you mean my 15 minutes are up? I was gonna ride this schtick forever!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:49:59pm
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:50:34pm

re: #42 gocart mozart

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Probably ate paint chips also.

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ericblair  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:51:24pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

Like Milo before her, her plan seems to be to try to bankrupt universities by forcing them to pay for her “events”. It’s nothing but an extortion scheme and the schools better wise up fast.

She’s just a sociopath doing whatever works to get a cushy gig on wingnut media. It’s not worth even considering what bullshit she’s selling, because she doesn’t care so why should you. Should the right wing nazisphere media dry up, she’ll be happy to tell you she’s seen the light and will now stump for her new liberal overlords for a very reasonable salary. Fuck these people.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:51:44pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:53:13pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:53:24pm

re: #211 ericblair

I wonder who pays for all her guns.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:54:47pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

I wonder who pays for all her guns.

She’s got a couple of sugar daddies picking up her tabs!

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 1:56:11pm

yep, totally screwed the goat with that summit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:04:51pm
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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:09:38pm

Looks like Rapey McDrinkface ain’t out of the woods just yet.

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gocart mozart  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:16:23pm
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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:17:07pm

re: #218 makeitstop

Unless there’s a true bombshell in some of those complaints, it’s not going to mean much. He’s no longer a Circuit Court judge and as a member of the Supreme Court he’s not technically bound by the Judicial Code of Ethics. The only way it matters is if it turns out there’s legitimately impeachable offenses in the complaints. And then you’re still going to need the Senate Republicans (assuming he doesn’t resign, which he won’t).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:24:18pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:32:12pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Kris Kobach approach which the SC will be approving nationwide: winning elections forever through disenfranchisement. Making it too expensive or too difficult for the poor to become registered to vote. The GOP learned well from their Jim Crow predecessors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:32:25pm

O_o

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:34:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:36:06pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:38:42pm

re: #210 Eventual Carrion

Probably ate paint chips also.

Do you blame him? Paste tastes minty.

Woodchucks taste like dirt.

Don’t ask me how I know this.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:39:20pm

Christian fascists at work in Texas:

The Texas Values lawsuit, filed in state district court in Austin, argues that faith-based opposition to homosexuality should allow people and businesses to:

• Refuse to hire or retain “practicing homosexuals or transgendered people” as employees.

• Decline to rent property to tenants “who are engaged in non-marital sex of any sort, including homosexual behavior.”

• Refuse to participate in or lend support to same-sex marriages.

• Refrain from providing benefits to the same-sex partners or spouses of employees.

• Declare that transgender people must use pubic restrooms that correspond to their “biological sex.”

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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:40:49pm

re: #227 jaunte

Germany, circa 1937.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:43:20pm

re: #227 jaunte

Christian fascists at work in Texas:

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The corrupted court will vote 5-4 to uphold those TexASS Values.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:49:06pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:52:54pm

There’s a thread. This is in it:

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:57:55pm

re: #4 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Just posted this after a rather disturbing evening spent talking with a friend who works at a clinic - it’s about “Doomsday Plans” for a post-Roe v. Wade future, where women will have to 3D print the surgical instruments to perform abortions: littlegreenfootballs.com

Maybe they’ve been watching Handmaid’s Tale a bit too much. Or maybe they’ve been listening to Mike Pence and the American Taliban crowing about how they’re going to impose the death penalty for doctors who perform abortions, and life without parole for women who suffer miscarriages.

For most women, they will just need to know how to purchase abortion drugs on the internet.

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fern01  Oct 10, 2018 • 2:58:52pm

re: #5 gocart mozart

Could only think of a 4 word reply when I read that. McConnell knows how much he harrassed President Obama & is rather concerned the dems might not “go high” when they win the house. He should join Sen Collins and they can both weep about their concerns.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:01:51pm

Something for Hump Day:

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fern01  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:02:15pm

re: #23 Targetpractice

More a case of its easier to get someone who’s already been approved through the Senate now than to try to bring in someone new.

No-one new can be found who would want to work for the president*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:13:40pm

My Private Oval Office Press Conference With Donald Trump, Mike Pence, John Kelly, and Mike Pompeo
By Olivia Nuzzi

Around 12:20 p.m. on Tuesday, I was on my way out of the White House after a series of meetings in the West Wing. I was reporting on a question that has hung over this administration for months: How has Chief of Staff John Kelly managed to keep his job in spite of convincing and persistent rumors and reports that the president is unhappy with him, and he is unhappy in his job? I stopped to talk to another reporter, and then I began to walk toward the North Gate. As I walked, I noticed I had a missed call from a Washington number I didn’t recognize. It was Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. She sounded very serious. She asked me if I had left yet. When I said no, she asked me to come back inside, and when she greeted me, she looked very serious. She implied she wanted me to go with her behind a door. I didn’t understand, maybe didn’t quite hear her. Then, she told me Trump wanted to speak to me.

I walked to the Oval Office. I guessed that the president wanted to disabuse me of any notion that Kelly was about to be fired, or had almost been fired many times before. I was right, but my imagination was too limited. What ensued amounted to a private press conference — featuring a series of special guest stars from the highest echelon of the Trump administration — to try to get me to change my mind.

“I just heard that you were doing a story on … this stuff,” the president said as he came into the Oval Office and sat down at the Resolute Desk. I sat in a chair across from him. Next to me were Sanders and communications director Bill Shine.

“General Kelly’s doing a very good job,” Trump told me. “We have a very good relationship. The White House is running very, very smoothly. We’ve had a big week. We just got a Supreme Court justice on the bench. We have the USMCA, meaning the NAFTA replacement, and many other things. We had a great meeting with North Korea. It was a great meeting. The secretary of State’s coming just in ten minutes.”

It just gets worse.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:13:45pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:20:31pm

Night Lizards.

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lizardofid  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:22:16pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

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A pox on this evil administration. And, a pox on CoreCivic, Geo Group, and the rest of the blood suckers who co-conspire.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:25:10pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

My Private Oval Office Press Conference With Donald Trump, Mike Pence, John Kelly, and Mike Pompeo
By Olivia Nuzzi

It just gets worse.

From there:

…So the real story is that. It’s really the real story. When you walk in here, you don’t see chaos. There is no chaos. The media likes to portray chaos. There’s no chaos. …

There’s chaos.

I should RTWT, to see what else there is…

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:26:16pm

re: #239 lizardofid

A pox on this evil administration. And, a pox on CoreCivic, Geo Group, and the rest of the blood suckers who co-conspire.

Those are some damned expensive babies they stole.

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makeitstop  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:28:46pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

My Private Oval Office Press Conference With Donald Trump, Mike Pence, John Kelly, and Mike Pompeo
By Olivia Nuzzi

It just gets worse.

I read about three quarters of the way through. I couldn’t bear to finish it. Even reading his words gets on my nerves now.

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Belafon  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:30:38pm

re: #229 Joe Bacon 🌹

The corrupted court will vote 5-4 to uphold those TexASS Values.

Which will be interesting because I k ow conservative families here in Texas with LGBT kids that is are opposed to those things. Our mayor lost his job because he tried to pass a bathroom ban here in Rockwall.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:33:39pm

re: #231 wrenchwench

It’s worth pointing out, the amounts they’re pulling from other organizations are relatively small number. The Domestic Nuclear Detection Office has a $563.8m budget, so a million dollars is like 0.2%. TSA has a budget around $7.7b, so $35m is a drop in the bucket.

Basically, they’re skimming money from one project to pay for overruns in another. I’ll let y’all draw the comparisons from there.

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:35:52pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

And he couldn’t answer the question of what his accomplishments were without looking at the paper.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:37:00pm

re: #245 jaunte

And he couldn’t answer the question of what his accomplishments were without looking at the paper.

BRING ME THE LIST!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:37:29pm

Ira is upset, there’s more in the thread

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:41:18pm

Texas law enforcement participating in voter suppression?

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fern01  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:44:11pm

re: #105 HappyWarrior

Melania should mind her own damn business instead of shaming victims.

And if Michelle Obama had dared to offer an opinion on such a question - the media would have been outraged

Melania is her husband - wearing a dress

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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:44:16pm

Imagine that, a rural county in Texas trying to suppress the votes of black students.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:46:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:47:04pm
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jaunte  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:47:33pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:49:30pm
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Dave In Austin  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:52:35pm

re: #253 jaunte

Old blonde Roseanne……

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:53:07pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:54:09pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

What does it matter where this worthless POS is?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 3:55:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:04:56pm

an old tweet for every occasion:

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:06:37pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ira is upset, there’s more in the thread

Photos like that get picked up and used as memes across social media. But it’s incredibly fucked up for someone to use a photo like that for an ad that they likely got paid for.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:07:25pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

The hurricane wasn’t threatening Mar a Lago, so why would he care?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:12:11pm
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Teddy's Person  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:18:10pm

re: #181 Citizen K

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Kent State Gun Twit remains a twit.

Sadly, the responses show a continued lack of ignorance, including folks insisting that women didn’t really want the vote back then and suffragettes were just crazy activists that destroyed comity or some shit.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:28:49pm

The California Milk Advisory Board Twitter feed makes me so hungry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:30:51pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:34:30pm

re: #248 jaunte

Texas law enforcement participating in voter suppression?

[Embedded content]

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:35:12pm

So much bullshit, I’m not even posting their tweet. Copy/paste. NYT magazine.

THIS WEEK’S COVER: Family separations, multibillion-dollar border-wall schemes, unleashed ICE officers —the Trump presidency has taught the Democrats what they stand against. Now they have to figure out what they stand for.

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KGxvi  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:39:15pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

From there:

There’s chaos.

I should RTWT, to see what else there is…

You know, as much chaos as there is now, I’m just thinking about next year and really, 2020… you know that they won’t have the discipline to keep any sort of separation between the re-election campaign and the White House operations as normally happens. There’s going to be people working for the campaign that are also working in the White House. And Trump is going to be especially terrible.

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wrenchwench  Oct 10, 2018 • 4:50:08pm

re: #268 KGxvi

You know, as much chaos as there is now, I’m just thinking about next year and really, 2020… you know that they won’t have the discipline to keep any sort of separation between the re-election campaign and the White House operations as normally happens. There’s going to be people working for the campaign that are also working in the White House. And Trump is going to be especially terrible.

It’s already happening. Those are campaign (for reelection) rallies that Trump keeps having.

Just like the repeal of Roe v Wade has already happened, if you’re a poor woman. No federal dollars can be spent on that form of healthcare.

The worst fuckups of immigration have already happened. Thousands of babies were stolen from their poor parents to be given to well-to-do white Christian parents.

Trump has already been especially terrible.

Now lets quibble over nuances and how much worse than this it can get. [Or not. My imagination is already working overtime.]

Vote early and vote often. It’s our only hope.


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