Media Sends the Civility Police to Detain Hillary Clinton

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Remember that “civility” push a couple of months ago, when the media lectured us all that we should be “civil” to the minions of an administration that tears children away from their families and puts them in cages, to people who support a president who openly, proudly invited his followers to assault protesters at his campaign rallies and promised to pay their legal bills if they did?

Well, they’re doing it again. Bubbling up from the right wing fever swamp and making it into the Washington Post and Politico.

We need more demonstrations and protests, not fewer. I’m not talking about violence, and it’s offensive I should even need to say that. But we can start acting “civil” to Republicans when they start acting like human beings with consciences.

UPDATE at 10/11/18 1:35:38 pm by Charles Johnson

Oh, and also, too…

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317 comments

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:13:00pm

Civil discourse in deed…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:13:15pm

Anyone remember either of the two times Trump insulted the family of soldiers killed in action?
Anyone remember when Trump mocked Chuck Schumer for crying about the Holocaust, in which he lost relatives?
Anyone remember any of the times Trump openly insulted the Mayor of London, not even a US politician but a person holding office in what was supposed to be the US’s closest ally?
Anyone remember when Trump whined because people were upset he’d complimented Nazis?
Anyone remember when Trump declared the Democrats- an entire political party- illegitimate?

Anyone remember when Greg Gianforte body slammed Ben Jacobs, a member of the free press?
Anyone remember when Steve King said that “we can’t save our culture with other people’s babies”?
Anyone remember when that guy in Georgia (Kemp) drove around in a “deportation bus”?
Anyone remember when any one of numerous Republicans defended Trump’s naked racism, sexism, and support of Neo-Nazis?
Anyone remember when Republicans en masse decided to slander victims of sexual assault?
Anyone remember when Republicans “swift boated” John Kerry?
Anyone remember when Republicans pandered to a group that insisted Obama was Kenyan and hung him in effigy at their meetings?
Anyone remember Operation American Spring, a right wing, Fox News endorsed attempt to literally replace the elected head of the United States with a military general and put that duly elected President on trial?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:17:55pm

Endorsing Roy Moore?

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Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:19:07pm

Couldn’t find the original quote I was looking for, but these two do just fine:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:19:20pm

re: #3 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Endorsing Roy Moore?

Southern Strategy? (Nixon)
Atheists can’t be patriotic nor should be citizens? (GHW Bush)
Welfare queens? (Reagan)
Pandered to the Klan and John Birch Society? (Goldwater)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:20:46pm

If you’re not with us you’re against us? (GW Bush starting a war with a country which did us no harm)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:21:12pm

It’s always amazing and depressing to search Google for anything related to Hillary Clinton, because the first page is invariably completely full of right wing hatred.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:23:33pm

That wingnut is continuing on intentionally being obtuse about civility.

Gee, if only Jews, socialists, Poles, &c had been more civil to the Nazis.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:23:40pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:23:46pm

What exactly does one gain by being Civil with Uncivil people?

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:23:52pm

Guy who is now running for Gov of Mich (R)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:24:22pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

What exactly does one gain by being Civil with Uncivil people?

Shackles.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:24:34pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

What exactly does one gain by being Civil with Uncivil people?

a warm sense of moral smugness while they walk all over you and wreck your country

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:25:05pm

It’s the little details …

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:26:29pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

Guy who is now running for Gov of Mich (R)

Watched video.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:27:44pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:35:31pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

Nobody in the media does. Never happened!

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Citizen K  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:35:48pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:37:46pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know what Deutsch’s problem is, but I had no problem understanding the initial point, it was clear as a bell.

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dangerman  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:38:45pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know what Deutsch’s problem is, but I had no problem understanding the initial point, it was clear as a bell.

when you got nuthin pretend the speaker was unclear

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:39:04pm
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:39:09pm

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

I don’t know what Deutsch’s problem is, but I had no problem understanding the initial point, it was clear as a bell.

What’s the adage about being paid?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:39:37pm

re: #20 dangerman

when you got nuthin pretend the speaker was unclear

Sealioning.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:39:40pm

Some really good news today.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:41:46pm

“Everybody be civil!” cries the crowd that spent the better part of two years talking about how awesome it was that a presidential candidate “told it like it is” because that was an element of the “populism” that people wanted so badly. The same media who chuckled and nudges each other whenever that candidate came up with a demeaning new nickname for his opposition. And who only seemed to get on this bandwagon the moment the opposition said “deplorables.”

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:43:14pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

“Everybody be civil!” cries the crowd that spent the better part of two years talking about how awesome it was that a presidential candidate “told it like it is” because that was an element of the “populism” that people wanted so badly. The same media who chuckled and nudges each other whenever that candidate came up with a demeaning new nickname for his opposition. And who only seemed to get on this bandwagon the moment the opposition said “deplorables.”

after two years of the candidate still holding campaign rallies and getting his crowd of loons to yell for imprisoning their political opponents.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:44:54pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:46:12pm

Pretty sure the civility policers are the same people who smirked when we complained about the current POTUS’ demeaning of the office and the breaking of norms, etc. Now some wackos yell at Ted Cruz in a restaurant and Hillary doesn’t want to be civil with people yelling for her imprisonment and suddenly the demands are that the Dems be civil.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:46:47pm

DJIA rallying to -394 …

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:47:13pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

It’s the little details …

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Well at least it isn’t 123456. Only an idiot would use 123456

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:48:24pm

re: #27 Kragar

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“We’d be a better country if everybody said what they meant…”

“YOU’RE A FUCKING FASCIST!!!”

“WHOA! Whoa! Whoa. Language!”

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:50:30pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:50:40pm
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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:51:14pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

“We’d be a better country if everybody said what they meant…”

“YOU’RE A FUCKING FASCIST!!!”

“WHOA! Whoa! Whoa. Language!”

Hurr hurr LOCK HER UP!!! F0ck Your Feelings snowflake libtard!!

2yrs later

Whoa, whoa everybody settle down and be civil the Left is so angry and moblike

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:51:59pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

Criminal behavior?

I must have missed the trial.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:54:54pm

DJIA plunging again, now -459

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:54:56pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

“Everybody be civil!” cries the crowd that spent the better part of two years talking about how awesome it was that a presidential candidate “told it like it is” because that was an element of the “populism” that people wanted so badly.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:55:57pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

“Deeply corrupt”?

I know that’s always been a self-evident truth to the reichwing but meanwhile, the Donald colluded with the Russians and has spent two years ripping the FBI and other investigative agencies.

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blueraven  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:56:26pm

re: #35 Sir John Barron

Criminal behavior?

I must have missed the trial.

Due Process is only for white male judges.

Never mind that Hillary went through an extensive FBI investigation…She is guilty!!

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:56:46pm
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DesertDenizen  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:57:01pm

re: #37 jaunte

“Fuck YOUR Feelings”, my feelings however must be delicately coddled, snowflake.

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Stanley Sea  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:57:25pm

Missed this. ty for the poster last thread whe gave link to kos.

W T F

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gwangung  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:58:28pm

re: #39 blueraven

Due Process is only for white male judges.

Never mind that Hillary went through an extensive FBI investigation…She is guilty!!

She went through more thorough investigations than Cavanaugh did, and nothing popped out. And exactly what corruption has been uncovered?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:59:28pm

re: #43 gwangung

She went through more thorough investigations than Cavanaugh did, and nothing popped out. And exactly what corruption has been uncovered?

Corruption of the conservative mindset and thought process.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 12:59:31pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

DJIA rallying to -394 …

-520 now
Looking like a 5% drop over 2 days

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Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:00:18pm

re: #41 DesertDenizen

“Fuck YOUR Feelings”, my feelings however must be delicately coddled, snowflake.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:00:20pm

Tropical Storm Michael is about to cross into Virginia. Tropical storm force winds extend over 180 miles from the centre. The storm is at 50mph, and moving at 23 mph.

nhc.noaa.gov

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:02:51pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

French made it clear long, long ago that he knows better than the FBI about Hillary’s criminal activity.

IOW, he’s your basic wingnut, but a well-spoken wingnut, not the run of the mill shouty wingnut.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:03:26pm

re: #43 gwangung

She went through more thorough investigations than Cavanaugh did, and nothing popped out. And exactly what corruption has been uncovered?

Something Clinton Foundation we know they’re corrupt if we could just see all the documents.

/

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:04:21pm

A probable right wing disinfo bot.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:05:37pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

A probable right wing disinfo bot.

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Thank you for your well considered opinion, generic name and 8 random digits.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:06:55pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

A probable right wing disinfo bot.

I teach my children to never start a fight, but that I’ll back them if they defend themselves.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:07:46pm

Just got back in from working with a client, I turned on Nicole Wallace and she is showing a video of Kayne West sitting across from Trump with Jim Brown next to him.

What the fuck?

And Kayne says his MAGA hat makes him feel like superman when he puts it on.

Swimming in bullshit here…

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gwangung  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:07:55pm

re: #49 Sir John Barron

Something Clinton Foundation we know they’re corrupt if we could just see all the documents.

/

I had some asses try to sell me on that, and I asked them to demonstrate. They came up with four or five wildassed things and then I said, “Which year’s 990 did that come from? Which page and which section?”

‘Cause I’ve been analyzing non profit behavior for 30 years now, and it seems like I know more about this sort of thing than they do.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:09:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:10:16pm

PJ Media: Women to Crazed Feminists: We Will Fight You to Defend Our Men (photo of African-American woman on the article), not linking here, top of the page there.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:10:25pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

A probable right wing disinfo bot.

This tweeter is being pretty rough on Donny.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:11:01pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

PJ Media: Women to Crazed Feminists: We Will Fight You to Defend Our Men (photo of African-American woman on the article), not linking here, top of the page there.

And also violence and shouting and incivility are bad.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:11:46pm

re: #46 Interesting Times

How’d you find that tweet from June? Would love to retweet it.

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KingKenrod  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:11:53pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

A probable right wing disinfo bot.

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Bad Faith Very Concerned Passive Aggressive Bot

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Aussie Apocalypse  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:15:40pm

West wants attention, doesn’t matter whether good/bad.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:16:00pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:17:15pm

re: #59 Sir John Barron

How’d you find that tweet from June? Would love to retweet it.

You can retweet it right from my comment using the retweet button (3rd one in the bottom blue bar).

As for how I found it, I remembered who said it, that “refreshing” was one of the words he used, and then just put the following in the twitter search bar:

from:popehat refreshing

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:21:10pm

re: #63 Interesting Times

You can retweet it right from my comment using the retweet button (3rd one in the bottom blue bar).

As for how I found it, I remembered who said it, that “refreshing” was one of the words he used, and then just put the following in the twitter search bar:

from:popehat refreshing

thanks much

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:23:02pm

re: #58 Sir John Barron

And also violence and shouting and incivility are bad.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:25:43pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

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Perhaps Davey would like to explain why getting in a politician’s face now is bad, versus when the “Tea Party” did it at town halls back in the run-up to the 2010 midterms.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:26:43pm

re: #39 blueraven

Due Process is only for white male judges.

Never mind that Hillary went through an extensive FBI investigation…She is guilty!!

Due Process Week sure has been fun.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:28:37pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Perhaps Davey would like to explain why getting in a politician’s face now is bad, versus when the “Tea Party” did it at town halls back in the run-up to the 2010 midterms.

Why no, no he wouldn’t.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:30:52pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

The bit about “direct, in-your-face actions”. Dude has gone off his rocker.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:31:50pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Perhaps Davey would like to explain why getting in a politician’s face now is bad, versus when the “Tea Party” did it at town halls back in the run-up to the 2010 midterms.

That was OK because Obama was literally destroying the entire Constitution, literally, issuing executive orders and such.

//

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:32:15pm

re: #69 Sir John Barron

The bit about “direct, in-your-face actions”. Dude has gone off his rocker.

And “Antifa street take overs.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:33:24pm

DJIA finished down 459 (1.79%)

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:34:20pm
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:35:49pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

Desperate, David? You didn’t think liberals would stand up to you, huh? While it might take us a while to realize your side’s full of it, we’re not actually cowards that need to hide behind a flag, a gun, or soldiers.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:36:13pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

And “Antifa street take overs.”

Like, in one city, one time for a few minutes (Portland?)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:36:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:37:53pm

I’m off for a nap … catch y’all later.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:39:02pm
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lizardofid  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:39:43pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Perhaps Davey would like to explain why getting in a politician’s face now is bad, versus when the “Tea Party” did it at town halls back in the run-up to the 2010 midterms.

Something like “We came unarmed this time” ?

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:40:14pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

If he had any civility, he would admit he had no counterargument to what Ward said.
If he were as smart as he thinks he is, he wouldn’t have bothered with a non-responsive pile of bullshit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:42:51pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:44:24pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

It’s always amazing and depressing to search Google for anything related to Hillary Clinton, because the first page is invariably completely full of right wing hatred.

But Trump went after Google because he couldn’t find the first links patting him on his straw head and rubbing his big ass belly.

I guess he didn’t get around to do a search on Hillary.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:45:06pm

re: #79 lizardofid

Something like “We came unarmed this time” ?

2nd amendment solutions, etc.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:46:36pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

What exactly does one gain by being Civil with Uncivil people?

A six foot hole in the ground.

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BigPapa  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:47:30pm

On news segment on Wingnut Radio, they played a Kanye screed.

We’re in the Upside Down for sure.

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:47:47pm

re: #69 Sir John Barron

The bit about “direct, in-your-face actions”. Dude has gone off his rocker.

Heather Heyer could not be reached for comment.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:49:26pm

Remember when David French was ‘Never Trump?’

Good times…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:49:35pm

re: #85 BigPapa

This reality is what happens if you pee on someone while they open that puzzle box from Hellraiser.

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BigPapa  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:50:22pm

I see Michael Cohen is trending, smiles and goes in.. he registered as a Democrat.

Now I get mad when news isn’t that tawdry or deranged.

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Kragar  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:51:06pm

re: #87 makeitstop

Remember when David French was ‘Never Trump?’

Good times…

Never Trump until its time to own the libs.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:51:52pm

JJ taking a dive into the would be “sortition” bomber

… …

… …

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:52:15pm

re: #87 makeitstop

Remember when David French was ‘Never Trump?’

Good times…

Hey now, I’ve been told we need to be taking these people on as allies, because we need all the help we can get and if they’re an enemy of Trump then they’re useful to our cause.

///////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:52:15pm

re: #87 makeitstop

Remember when David French was ‘Never Trump?’

Good times…

There are folks who were NeverTrump because they thought he’d govern as a liberal, and there were folks who were NeverTrump because they thought he’d govern as a know-nothing, fascism-curious, malignant narcissist. The former came back to the fold, once it became clear that all his economic populism was just lip service. The latter generally have watched their worst fears come true.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:53:00pm

re: #90 Kragar

Never Trump until its time to own the libs.

“I was Never Trump until he appointed the holy Brett Kav and the women with the lady parts came out to protest.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:53:25pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:54:25pm

re: #37 jaunte

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I did an update for that a few months ago.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:54:28pm
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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:54:44pm

re: #85 BigPapa

On news segment on Wingnut Radio, they played a Kanye screed.

We’re in the Upside Down for sure.

As I pondered last thread, I’m waiting for wingnuts to buy Kanye’s album to own the libs.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:55:11pm

re: #20 dangerman

Have a very Happy Birthday!!

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:55:44pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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2/2020 trial date? What, are they hoping he dies of old age before then?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:56:31pm
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BlueGrl21  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:58:43pm

I was in the civility camp. Raised by a sweet Southern grandma. We don’t behave in an uncivil manner.

Yeah, no. That’s bullshit. The Texan in me is overriding the Georgia. Lock and load.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:59:04pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JJ taking a dive into the would be “sortition” bomber

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 1:59:15pm
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cat-tikvah  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:01:17pm

re: #102 BlueGrl21

I’m right there with you.
Veteran of the “unruly mob” in DC of late!
Normally mild mannered suburban housefrau.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:02:21pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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To be fair, at least they acknowledged it was a bad move. The New York Times would have stamped their foot and gotten indignant that any of their readers questioned the wisdom of allowing Donny to print an op-ed absent even the most basic fact-checking.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:04:44pm

I kinda wish they wouldn’t do this…..

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Mike Lamb  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:04:58pm

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹

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And of course, Trump offering to pay the legal bills of any of his followers that assaulted any protesters at his rallies…but violence is bad!

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:05:18pm

re: #66 Targetpractice

Perhaps Davey would like to explain why getting in a politician’s face now is bad, versus when the “Tea Party” did it at town halls back in the run-up to the 2010 midterms.

I mentioned that to a wingnut yesterday and his comeback was “but over 300 protesting lib women got arrested last week (Kavanaugh protests) and what about Antifa?”

I said no more…why waste the time.

Plus, they work for a client, so I sure didn’t want to get into a politics thing with them. And the owner of the small company knows his guys are what they are.

Let it be!

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Amory Blaine  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:06:20pm

I’ve got my steel toe boots on. Ready to kick ass!!

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:06:25pm

Law of unintended consequences comes back to bite a Christian Lobby Group in the ass.

Christian bakery legal team refused service by photography company ‘on moral grounds’

In a statement to PinkNews, perfocal.com founder Tony Xu explained: “It’s been accepted in the highest court in the UK that private companies can accept bookings and then, if they feel that it goes against their morals, refuse that booking if it offends their sensibilities and it not be counted as discriminatory.

“We appreciate that this looks like tit for tat, and it is.”

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BlueGrl21  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:06:34pm

re: #105 cat-tikvah

I’m right there with you.
Veteran of the “unruly mob” in DC of late!
Normally mild mannered suburban housefrau.

Yep, I’d never protested until Trump. Now I am at every one and working my ass off on Beto’s campaign. And taking my kids.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:06:43pm

re: #58 Sir John Barron

And also violence and shouting and incivility are bad.

Well, unless it is Trump cultists who are engaging in it.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:06:55pm

re: #108 Mike Lamb

And of course, Trump offering to pay the legal bills of any of his followers that assaulted any protesters at his rallies…but violence is bad!

And commenting how “back in the old days” such protestors would have been taken out on stretchers.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:10:17pm

re: #114 Targetpractice

And commenting how “back in the old days” such protestors would have been taken out on stretchers.

Yeah but Hillary said be uncivil so we need more fainting couches.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:10:23pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

I kinda wish they wouldn’t do this…..

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Now there’s interesting imagery for the next Terminator film: An endoskeletal robot performing parkour to catch the protagonist.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:12:35pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:14:18pm

re: #115 Sir John Barron

Yeah but Hillary said be uncivil so we need more fainting couches.

Hold a second, let me grab my clutching pearls.

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BigPapa  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:16:43pm

re: #118 Targetpractice

Hold a second, let me grab my clutching pearls.

I got 3000 Clutching Pearls bucket from Costco. Enough for all of us. And our feet.

Here’s some Brother Ali, even more appropro now.

Brother Ali - Uncle Sam Goddamn

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:18:11pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

To be fair, at least they acknowledged it was a bad move. The New York Times would have stamped their foot and gotten indignant that any of their readers questioned the wisdom of allowing Donny to print an op-ed absent even the most basic fact-checking.

A lampooning statement from the Times defending such an article:

We would have been of no benefit to our readers if we had fact checked Trump. Only the keenly aware know that it is best to present Trump as he is.

After all, Democrats, liberals, progressive, whatever they call themselves, have to realize Trump won the election for reasons they still do not seem to understand.

It is better to present the true Trump so you can get a feel for why he is now the president.

Warts and all, he is still popular with a large segment of the voting public. The left cannot deny that, though they try.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:22:14pm

re: #120 ObserverArt

A lampooning statement from the Times defending such an article:

We would have been of no benefit to our readers if we had fact checked Trump. Only the keenly aware know that it is best to present Trump as he is.

After all, Democrats, liberals, progressive, whatever they call themselves, have to realize Trump won the election for reasons they still do not seem to understand.

It is better to present the true Trump so you can get a feel for why he is now the president.”

Warts and all, he is still popular with a large segment of the voting public. The left cannot deny that, though they try.

Maggie, is that you? :)

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cat-tikvah  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:22:54pm

re: #112 BlueGrl21

I’d never participated in non-violent civil disobedience.

Five-time flexicuff wearer now, in the last year and a half, all in DC.

This is an existential moment for our nation. Others have risked far more than I ever have, without guarantee of success. My goal now is to be the “tip of the spear, and sand in the gears.”

Go forth.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:24:58pm

I am vexed.

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BigPapa  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:28:31pm

The eyes are windows to the soul

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:29:23pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

You are artificially selecting for smarter rabbits that can cut the green wire first.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:32:42pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JJ taking a dive into the would be “sortition” bomber

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:34:39pm

Thread:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:37:01pm

Thread

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:37:04pm

Today I woke up on the wrong side of the mob. I had a case of the Mobdays. Someone said, “hey, quit acting like a mob!” mob, mob, mob, mob, mob!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:37:44pm

jeebus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:40:45pm

just gonna leave this here…

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:42:55pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Another reminder that this administration is evil to its core.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2018 • 2:46:40pm

What a poor red state with the worst funded public employee pension system in the country spends its money on: Planned Parenthood and the ACLU are asking for $1.5 million in legal fees for winning lawsuit to prevent Kentucky shutting down the state’s only abortion clinic.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:00:18pm

re: #133 Big Beautiful Door

What a poor red state with the worst funded public employee pension system in the country spends its money on: Planned Parenthood and the ACLU are asking for $1.5 million in legal fees for winning lawsuit to prevent Kentucky shutting down the state’s only abortion clinic.

A state that had an excellent implementation of the ACA but threw it out by electing Matt Bevin as governor. This is what the residents apparently wanted and unless the citizens wake up, they deserve this.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:00:46pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth
gam*mon
noun
1. ham that has been cured or smoked like bacon.
the bottom piece of a side of bacon, including a hind leg.

2. a pejorative term used in British political culture since around 2012, which received press coverage in 2018. In 2018 it became particularly known as a term to describe white people, especially those on the political right or who supported Brexit, who appear pink-faced when emotional.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:03:22pm

re: #134 Hecuba’s daughter

A state that had an excellent implementation of the ACA but threw it out by electing Matt Bevin as governor. This is what the residents apparently wanted and unless the citizens wake up, they deserve this.

Bevin is extremely unpopular, so we will see if Kentucky is still willing to vote for a Democrat for Governor next year.

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calochortus  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:04:02pm

re: #135 gocart mozart

gam*mon
noun
1. ham that has been cured or smoked like bacon.
the bottom piece of a side of bacon, including a hind leg.

2. a pejorative term used in British political culture since around 2012, which received press coverage in 2018. In 2018 it became particularly known as a term to describe white people, especially those on the political right or who supported Brexit, who appear pink-faced when emotional.

It’s older than #2 as a perjorative term. It appeared in at least one Agatha Christie mystery with the meaning of “nonsense.”

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:06:32pm
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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:12:08pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:19:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:20:33pm

re: #139 MsJ

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I’m just waiting for Kanye to team up with Diamond and Silk.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:23:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:24:38pm

re: #136 Big Beautiful Door

Bevin is extremely unpopular, so we will see if Kentucky is still willing to vote for a Democrat for Governor next year.

I don’t see why not…there have only been three Republican governors in my lifetime, compared to a dozen Democrats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:28:27pm
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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:29:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:31:34pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t see why not…there have only been three Republican governors in my lifetime, compared to a dozen Democrats.

Kentucky has 2 pernicious Republican Senators: McConnell and Rand Paul and of its 6 Congressmen, only one is a Democrat. Very red state

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:32:55pm

Senate has been confirming a boatload of judges today

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:33:32pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

Kentucky has 2 pernicious Republican Senators: McConnell and Rand Paul and of its 6 Congressmen, only one is a Democrat. Very red state

I know that…I live here.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:34:30pm

“We get it, Kanye - you love giant asses.”

Uh, didn’t Sir Mix-a-Lot get there first?

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:36:17pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

“We get it, Kanye - you love giant asses.”

Uh, didn’t Sir Mix-a-Lot get there first?

//

He did. And he didn’t make an… uh… ass of himself in the process.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:36:38pm

This is two fucking days in a row. I’m getting text messages from Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

How did those fuckers get my phone number?

God. Dammit. All.

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KGxvi  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:37:12pm

re: #147 Hecuba’s daughter

Kentucky has 2 pernicious Republican Senators: McConnell and Rand Paul and of its 6 Congressmen, only one is a Democrat. Very red state

According to the Kentucky Board of Elections, Democrats outnumber Republicans in 3 of the six Congressional districts, as well as statewide. I wonder if a lot of those Democrats are sort of legacy Dems who usually end up voting for Republicans. Or if there is a turnout problem, or some combination thereof.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:37:27pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know that…I live here.

Of course — my bad. Let’s see if something good can happen.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:37:35pm

re: #152 MsJ

This is two fucking days in a row. I’m getting text messages from Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

How did those fuckers get my phone number?

God. Dammit. All.

Geez, what a fucking annoyance!
Are you responding to them?

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:37:54pm

re: #155 Jebediah, RBG

Geez, what a fucking annoyance!
Are you responding to them?

No. I’m blocking them now.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:38:38pm

re: #156 MsJ

Probably safer.
I know I would probably get myself in trouble.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:42:06pm

re: #157 Jebediah, RBG

Probably safer.
I know I would probably get myself in trouble.

No doubt if I told them how I really feel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:43:45pm

thread:

he’s still going with it this evening.

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KGxvi  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:44:56pm

re: #158 MsJ

No doubt if I told them how I really feel.

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Could just be auto-dialing systems. They’re basically telemarketers. I’m surprised it’s an 800 number rather than a cloned number like I get on a lot of spam calls (they somehow get the caller ID to display a number from my area code and same 3 digit prefix).

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banditqueen  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:45:06pm

The white house resident* is just desperate to show he’s all hippity hoppity with the kids, but at this point he & his crew are recklessly exploiting Kanye, who clearly is mentally unstable. Especially after the SNL craziness, I can’t imagine what else the white house crew could have expected with their nasty PR stunt today, but it seems not to have gone well for anyone. Now, because Kanye has linked himself with the MAGAt in the white house, the obvious mental health issues at center stage will be reduced to ridicule. Just get whole 2016 white house crew out (it starts 11/6/2018), and get an intervention for Kanye.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:46:14pm

re: #160 KGxvi

Could just be auto-dialing systems. They’re basically telemarketers. I’m surprised it’s an 800 number rather than a cloned number like I get on a lot of spam calls (they somehow get the caller ID to display a number from my area code and same 3 digit prefix).

I get those all day every day. Phone calls.

These are text messages. That passes me off to no end since I prefer texting to calls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:46:55pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:48:29pm

re: #158 MsJ

No doubt if I told them how I really feel.

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I got a text message from the RNC looking for money to support Trump and the Senate candidates. It happened to come about an hour and a half the National Emergency test.

Same thing for me, I never gave or asked for anything from a Republican in any form.

Some here suggested it might have been my contacts with Portman.

I don’t like it either.

I texted back and told them I never asked to be on their contact list, I don’t want to be contacted and I will never vote for a Republican again. Ever. Do not text me again.

We’ll see if they do it again…

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KGxvi  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:49:14pm

re: #162 MsJ

I get those all day every day. Phone calls.

These are text messages. That passes me off to no end since I prefer texting to calls.

I don’t get too much text message spam. I did occasionally a while back, but I don’t think I’ve seen anything in the last year or two. Easier to ignore, though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:50:07pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:50:36pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread:

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he’s still going with it this evening.

Darth cracks me up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:53:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:54:50pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:55:05pm

re: #152 MsJ

This is two fucking days in a row. I’m getting text messages from Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

How did those fuckers get my phone number?

God. Dammit. All.

McConnell’s campaign kept texting me. I got even by posting that number to a swingers club site…

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:55:41pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

I got a text message from the RNC looking for money to support Trump and the Senate candidates. It happened to come about an hour and a half the National Emergency test.

Same thing for me, I never gave or asked for anything from a Republican in any form.

Some here suggested it might have been my contacts with Portman.

I don’t like it either.

I texted back and told them I never asked to be on their contact list, I don’t want to be contacted and I will never vote for a Republican again. Ever. Do not text me again.

We’ll see if they do it again…

I’m thinking that came from the text alert that I never got. There’s no way they could just randomly text me. I use my phone like almost never. I keep it for work.

I didn’t respond because then they’ll probably share it with every fucking Republican running one they confirm the number is valid.

I’m fucking livid.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:55:44pm
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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:56:11pm

re: #165 KGxvi

I don’t get too much text message spam. I did occasionally a while back, but I don’t think I’ve seen anything in the last year or two. Easier to ignore, though.

Super easy now that I’ve blocked that number. 😁

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:57:53pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:59:27pm

re: #11 gocart mozart

Guy who is now running for Gov of Mich (R)

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I’ll have whatever he’s having, but I’m not going to take it until after work Friday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 3:59:33pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:00:17pm

re: #170 Joe Bacon 🌹

McConnell’s campaign kept texting me. I got even by posting that number to a swingers club site…

What did swingers ever do to hurt you?

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steve_davis  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:01:51pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹

DJIA plunging again, now -459

yeah, this is absolutely killing me. funnily enough, over the last 90 days, I’m still slightly positive, while dow and s&p are down heavily, so I guess maybe there’s something to be said for active portfolio trading.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:04:48pm

re: #178 steve_davis

yeah, this is absolutely killing me. funnily enough, over the last 90 days, I’m still slightly positive, while dow and s&p are down heavily, so I guess maybe there’s something to be said for active portfolio trading.

If you know what you’re doing sure, but most people aren’t in that position. Most of us are just watching the 401Ks that replaced our pensions shrink.

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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:05:33pm

re: #170 Joe Bacon 🌹

McConnell’s campaign kept texting me. I got even by posting that number to a swingers club site…

Welp, I just put it on Twitter, so there’s that.

I’m thinking the Church of Satan would be cool since they love religion.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:07:23pm

re: #180 MsJ

Welp, I just put it on Twitter, so there’s that.

I’m thinking the Church of Satan would be cool since they love religion.

I ❤️ U!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:07:52pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:08:11pm

Ms J, @jack may not like that…

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:10:09pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Canada, we’re willing to make a trade. Name your terms!

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:13:15pm

re: #107 Blind Frog Belly White

I kinda wish they wouldn’t do this…..

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This has to stop now. We need to implement basic human rights considerations into AI behaviors.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:13:51pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:14:12pm

re: #185 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

This has to stop now. We need to implement basic human rights considerations into AI behaviors.

We can’t even implement that in our politicians, how are we going to teach robots?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:15:08pm

Underwood’s thread about this starts here:

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wrenchwench  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:15:23pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

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Get the whole coyote. Works better.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:18:24pm

re: #185 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

This has to stop now. We need to implement basic human rights considerations into AI behaviors.

If we do that we risk AIs taking over and protecting human rights. That would be too much of a shocking change from the system of abuse that exists now. Conservatives would never go for it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:19:15pm
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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:24:28pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:28:45pm
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A Mom Anon  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:29:00pm

re: #192 makeitstop

Yeah, at ten to fifteen bucks for a candy bar that would be a rather expensive treat. God these people are dumb.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:32:51pm
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Kragar  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:33:56pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:34:32pm
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MsJ  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:35:20pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:38:47pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

I do not believe that is real. If it was, why not retweet the actual tweet, and not an image.
Also, I googled the exact phrase and there are no matches. The closest match was reporting on a fake Trump 2015 tweet about how if the Dow dropped 1000 points in a single day the sitting president should be loaded into a cannon and shot into the sun

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freetoken  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:45:25pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

It took me a while to figure out what was going on (because the tweet uses pronoun “it” without anything preceding).

Anyway, on citizenship questions on censuses - early 20th century censuses asked if one had been naturalized, and in which year.

The mere question on a census I don’t find objectionable. OTOH, given the malice of everything connected with Trump, I can understand why some are worried about it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:47:18pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yeah, there should be a presumption that screen shot Tweets are fake.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:47:28pm
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gwangung  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:48:06pm

re: #200 freetoken

It took me a while to figure out what was going on (because the tweet uses pronoun “it” without anything preceding).

Anyway, on citizenship questions on censuses - early 20th century censuses asked if one had been naturalized, and in which year.

The mere question on a census I don’t find objectionable. OTOH, given the malice of everything connected with Trump, I can understand why some are worried about it.

Given how the US Census sold out Japanese Americans and helped get them into concentration camps, I KNOW damn well why I’m worried about it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:49:37pm

From a guy who lost an old friend in Annapolis

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:50:33pm

re: #2 Anymouse 🌹

You seriously should put all that in a threaded tweet. Powerful.

No one who supports or tolerates Trump should be allowed to say a dang thing about civility. What a joke.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:54:39pm
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banditqueen  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:56:04pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth
Now tRump knows what it’s like to listen to himself talk.

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Targetpractice  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:56:19pm

re: #204 gocart mozart

From a guy who lost an old friend in Annapolis

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Not just “This guy isn’t an American,” but also declaring that he’s not prepared to take action against the Saudis if it means $110B stops being spent them here in the US.

Translation: “I’d hate for them to stop spending money in my hotels…”

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:56:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 4:59:58pm
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TedStriker  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:00:38pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

According to the gardening expert at my local nursery the rabbit & deer repellent I just bought is made with real bits of coyote, so you know it’s good. pic.twitter.com

— Captain Pumpkin Spice (@goddamnedfrank) October 11, 2018

Sex Coyote?

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banditqueen  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:00:48pm

re: #207 gocart mozart

The Georgia ACLU reports that:

“The Secretary of State’s Office has confirmed that if your voter registration application is deemed ‘pending’ because of the exact match law, you can still cast a regular ballot IF you provide photo identification at the polls which substantially reflects the name you used on your voter registration form,” stated Sean J. Young, Legal Director of the ACLU of Georgia.

Getting the word out is key.

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:00:52pm

re: #172 gocart mozart

Well it dropped 1400 points, not 1000, so Checkmate, Libtard!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:04:00pm
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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:06:10pm

They should make them public. Maybe that’ll get the asshole in the White House off the goddamn dime.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:06:39pm

re: #214 Skip Intro

Well it dropped 1400 points, not 1000, so Checkmate, Libtard!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:06:44pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:11:47pm

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:11:58pm

Richard Branson backs out of Saudi tourism projects until the Khashoggi matter is clarified.

I had high hopes for the current government in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and its leader Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and it is why I was delighted to accept two directorships in the tourism projects around the Red Sea. I felt that I could give practical development advice and also help protect the precious environment around the coastline and islands.

What has reportedly happened in Turkey around the disappearance of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, if proved true, would clearly change the ability of any of us in the West to do business with the Saudi Government. We have asked for more information from the authorities in Saudi and to clarify their position in relation to Mr Khashoggi.

While those investigations are ongoing and Mr Khashoggi’s whereabouts are not known, I will suspend my directorships of the two tourism projects. Virgin will also suspend its discussions with the Public Investment Fund over the proposed investment in our space companies Virgin Galactic and Virgin Orbit.

I wish our erstwhile president would show the same kind of guts.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:12:43pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:16:49pm

I want to find the house with the edibles. I will change my costume several times.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:16:51pm

It’s been a f up day here, but I did one good thing. A woman I work with who become I citizen several months ago was not registered to vote. I’ve been after her after giving her a hard time for not talking her test. I did my best to quiz her along the way and she passed and her papers came through a few weeks ago. Today I helped her register to vote. OK I filled out the online form. In NY it’s easy if you have a state ID or drivers license. One more voter in NY! Also a registered Democrat (her choice).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:18:49pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:19:15pm

re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To

A friend of mine just got her citizenship over the weekend. And she’s registered to vote in WI. She can’t wait. She’s very Liberal. ;)

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ipsos  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:19:33pm

re: #222 Barefoot Grin

I want to find the house with the edibles. I will change my costume several times.

If the guy in the ranch house on the corner can afford to hand out full-size Snickers bars to the kids…

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:19:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:21:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:21:59pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:23:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:23:28pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:28:28pm

re: #127 makeitstop

Thread:

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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:28:42pm

re: #223 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s been a f up day here, but I did one good thing. A woman I work with who become I citizen several months ago was not registered to vote. I’ve been after her after giving her a hard time for not talking her test. I did my best to quiz her along the way and she passed and her papers came through a few weeks ago. Today I helped her register to vote. OK I filled out the online form. In NY it’s easy if you have a state ID or drivers license. One more voter in NY! Also a registered Democrat (her choice).

Were I president, I’d give you the Medal of Freedom for your work with her. Thank you!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:28:51pm
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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:31:25pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hooman’s fault for leaving it out for disposal!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:33:33pm
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BigPapa  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:35:38pm

Doggo coming after my sammich

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:37:13pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:47:46pm

re: #237 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow. And Trump just loves him some Putin.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:47:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:48:57pm

re: #238 BigPapa

A Greyhound, you’ll note.

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BigPapa  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:51:44pm

re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White

A Greyhound, you’ll note.

More like an Airhound

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:52:40pm

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:57:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 5:58:49pm

see how she’s bullied so much?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:02:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:03:11pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:03:26pm

re: #217 The Vicious Babushka

HuiaQQ6qq+JifHlAELRaOWMqqzQ5XwEM2k+tR5RuXcAhaZzZ46MW68ab7H2FfmLe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:06:19pm
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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:06:53pm

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:10:46pm

I just sent Stacey Abrams some $ (not much, I’m afraid) to get the vote out against Brian Kemp in GA. What a criminal jerk he is.

After Kavanaugh, sent money to Heitkamp and McCaskill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:11:12pm

more pictures from Panama City in his TL.

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Skip Intro  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:18:55pm

re: #229 Patricia Kayden

Chuck is a horrible minority leader and he’d be a worse majority leader if that miracle occurs. Why can’t the Dems clear the Deadwood? Do they like losing all the time?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:19:03pm
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unproven innocence  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:20:12pm

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Introspection is good, but don’t let yourself get carried away by yourself. I’d miss you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:22:58pm

benji haz a outrage

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:26:15pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sanctity of Life Catholic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:28:23pm

*SPIT*

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nowherenorth2  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:28:26pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ahh the Shapiro argument of not getting the whole picture and arguing how wrong you are for getting the entire picture

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plansbandc  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:29:19pm

re: #227 The Vicious Babushka

This is some Soviet level shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:31:01pm

the snark is strong with Miranda.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:33:19pm

This diary about the Green Party is great: m.dailykos.com

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:35:45pm
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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:39:24pm

re: #264 Single-handed sailor

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I just felt a clench all the way up my inguanal canal accompanied by that hollow, oogie feeling that every guy knows.

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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:46:38pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:48:44pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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George Carlin

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:49:58pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:52:40pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Saudis are not our friends. Its a murderous dictatorship that has a lot of oil.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:54:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:55:45pm
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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:56:10pm

re: #258 austin_blue

Sanctity of Life Catholic.

He’s lucky I’m not his Bishop. Instant excommunication until public repentance and penance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:57:48pm
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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 6:59:53pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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Mary Shelley
John Stuart Mill
Matthew Arnold.
Richard Hooker
Adam Smith (oh, he’d be a hellion of a snarker about so called capitalists…)
Walt Whitman
Teddy Roosevelt

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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:02:11pm

re: #269 Big Beautiful Door

The Saudis are not our friends. Its a murderous dictatorship that has a lot of oil.

“against all enemies, foreign and domestic…”

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can't think of a decent username  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:02:14pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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My list:
Oscar Wilde, Abe Lincoln, Ben Franklin, Dorothy Parker, Mark Twain, MLK Jr., Groucho Marx, Albert Einstein, Malcolm X, Jack Kirby, Ida B. Wells, Nellie Bly, Anne Frank, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Molly Ivins, Ann Richards, Bill Hicks, Ed “Big Daddy” Roth, and Julie d’Aubigny.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:03:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:03:23pm

re: #274 William Lewis

I’d pick Walt Whitman, too.
Also, Samuel Clemens, Benjamin Franklin, Margaret “Maggie” Tobin Brown (The Unsinkable Molly Brown)

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stpaulbear  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:07:38pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

Josh Jordan

@NumbersMuncher
What person (celebrity, politician, writer, etc) from pre-Twitter days would’ve been an insanely great follow had they been able to tweet?

Molly Ivins

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:08:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:11:02pm
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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:12:04pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d pick Walt Whitman, too.
Also, Samuel Clemens, Benjamin Franklin, Margaret “Maggie” Tobin Brown (The Unsinkable Molly Brown)

Not sure why Matthew Arnold and his poem Dover Beach got pulled up so strongly by this particular tweet but there you go…

Ah, love, let us be true
To one another! for the world, which seems
To lie before us like a land of dreams,
So various, so beautiful, so new,
Hath really neither joy, nor love, nor light,
Nor certitude, nor peace, nor help for pain;
And we are here as on a darkling plain
Swept with confused alarms of struggle and flight,
Where ignorant armies clash by night

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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:13:11pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

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IOW the SCOTUS has performed an act of war against the Lakota nation…

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:13:50pm

re: #279 stpaulbear

Molly Ivins

Absolutely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:14:43pm

re: #283 William Lewis

IOW the SCOTUS has performed an act of war against the Lakota nation…

click on the image, there’s one more paragraph.
The tribe is sending out drivers to take people to the polls, helping get physical addresses and new tribal IDs.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:14:57pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d pick Walt Whitman, too.
Also, Samuel Clemens, Benjamin Franklin, Margaret “Maggie” Tobin Brown (The Unsinkable Molly Brown)

John Lennon
Hunter S. Thompson
Dorothy Parker

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:16:20pm
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William Lewis  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:16:47pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

click on the image, there’s one more paragraph.
The tribe is sending out drivers to take people to the polls, helping get physical addresses and new tribal IDs.

Oh, I’ve read about what they’re doing. It should not be necessary and is simply because the native vote was critical in the last election of one specific individual.

Just because it can be fought nonviolently does not make the instigation any less an act of war.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:17:15pm

re: #266 The Vicious Babushka

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Winston Churchill, H.L. Mencken, Thomas Huxley, Eleanor Roosevelt, Will Rogers, Alexander Hamilton, Jonathan Swift

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:18:51pm

re: #281 Backwoods_Sleuth

How are we a democracy when we continue to restrict voting rights of our citizens? Why hasn’t this been turned around on Republicans as a badge of shame?

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:19:40pm

I’m wondering just what else Kushner promised Saudi in return for their support…

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:21:04pm

re: #291 makeitstop

I’m wondering just what else Kushner promised Saudi in return for their support…

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Free residency at Trump DC.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:22:20pm

re: #291 makeitstop

I’m wondering just what else Kushner promised Saudi in return for their support…

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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:24:25pm

re: #276 can’t think of a decent username

My list:
Oscar Wilde, Abe Lincoln, Ben Franklin, Dorothy Parker, Mark Twain, MLK Jr., Groucho Marx, Albert Einstein, Malcolm X, Jack Kirby, Ida B. Wells, Nellie Bly, Anne Frank, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Molly Ivins, Ann Richards, Bill Hicks, Ed “Big Daddy” Roth, and Julie d’Aubigny.

Oh, Molly Ivins!!! I’d bet the boat on her!

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A Mom Anon  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:25:17pm

re: #293 Big Beautiful Door

JFC. These people are fucking traitors. And not a single damned conservative needs to run their mouth about evil Muslims and 9/11 ever the fuck again. Ever.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:28:18pm

re: #290 Patricia Kayden

How are we a democracy when we continue to restrict voting rights of our citizens? Why hasn’t this been turned around on Republicans as a badge of shame?

The Republicans are proud of this. They have taken up the mantle of the old Dixiecrats in suppressing votes of minorities. Georgia is part of the old South and still is infected with the racism of the past. Originally, voter suppression was confined to the states of the Confederacy. But over the past 10-15 years, voter suppression has become a standard tool for Republican-led governments nationwide in any state with a diverse population.

Republican voters are all on board with silencing their critics.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:28:54pm

re: #294 retired cynic

Oh, Molly Ivins!!! I’d bet the boat on her!

Molly on former Texas Speaker (and Democrat) Gib Lewis:

“He’s not a crook, he’s just ethically challenged.”

And on the bi-annual convocation of the Texas Legislature:

“Every two years, little villages from the length and breadth of Texas send their Idiots to Austin.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:32:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:36:56pm
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jaunte  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:37:18pm
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retired cynic  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:38:46pm

re: #300 jaunte

Surprise. Not.

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:40:07pm

We’re looking at it very strongly,” Trump said. “We’ll be having a report out soon. We’re working with Turkey, we’re working with Saudi Arabia. What happened is a terrible thing, assuming that happened.”

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can't think of a decent username  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:40:20pm

re: #300 jaunte

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Trump approves of authoritarians, dictatorships, and assassinations.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:42:37pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:42:56pm

re: #241 Dave In Austin

When a Republican claims to be tough, they don’t mean strong. They mean cruel.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:44:18pm

re: #32 Kragar

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jaunte  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:46:11pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:49:59pm

re: #302 jaunte

We’re looking at it very strongly,” Trump said. “We’ll be having a report out soon. We’re working with Turkey, we’re working with Saudi Arabia. What happened is a terrible thing, assuming that happened.”

This may be worth a lot more than all his other scandals, egregious as they are. They’re too convoluted, too diffuse. This is the kind of thing people can get their heads around:

Khashoggi was murdered, dismembered, and carried out in suitcases by an assassination squad dispatched from Riyadh for the purpose. tRump knew about the danger, didn’t warn him, knew it happened, has been dogging it on acknowledging that it happened, is still selling them arms, and offered them carte blanche to develop nuclear weapons!

This will have staying power, I think. It’s not just: “So? He cheats on his taxes—so does everybody! Whattabout….”

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:52:18pm
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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:53:50pm

re: #307 jaunte

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I’m still amazed that the occupants of the Magic Kingdom are “Our Friends The Saudis”.

Wait, what? Oh. We’ve got a $110 billion weapons deal with them, exclusive of what they have been buying to slaughter scads of Yemenis (Shiite, Sunni, whatever) for the past couple of years.

Never mind.

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gocart mozart  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:55:25pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:56:00pm

re: #306 Scottish Dragon

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 11, 2018 • 7:56:58pm

re: #306 Scottish Dragon

Thank you Deirdre. That’s really all that needs to be said.

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ObserverArt  Oct 11, 2018 • 8:01:47pm

re: #242 Blind Frog Belly White

A Greyhound, you’ll note.

That was posted earlier too. And I thought of you and Rango right off.

I liked how the dog had its mouth open right before hitting the water. I thought of a nailing it scream like an NBA player during a dunk.

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Belafon  Oct 11, 2018 • 8:05:17pm

re: #300 jaunte

Someone in the replies asks if this is why Nikki Haley resigned so suddenly.

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austin_blue  Oct 11, 2018 • 8:07:07pm

re: #315 Belafon

Someone in the replies asks if this is why Nikki Haley resigned so suddenly.

Doubtful, I think, unless she had pre-knowledge about the hit, in which case, the entire Admin needs to be taken down.

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makeitstop  Oct 11, 2018 • 8:12:18pm

re: #310 austin_blue

I’m still amazed that the occupants of the Magic Kingdom are “Our Friends The Saudis”.

Wait, what? Oh. We’ve got a $110 billion weapons deal with them, exclusive of what they have been buying to slaughter scads of Yemenis (Shiite, Sunni, whatever) for the past couple of years.

Never mind.

I saw a tweet earlier (forget where) that said like everything else he talks about, Trump lied. The actual number on the weapons buy is 14.3 billion.

And Congress can put a hold on them if they’re so inclined. We’ll see if they really want to get to the truth or if they’re just blowing smoke.


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