The Bob Cesca Show: Daddy Thinks I’m the Best

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Daddy Thinks I’m The Best — NSFW; Jody Hamilton from the Stephanie Miller Show is here; The Dow tanked again; Trump blames the Fed; Trump’s bizarre outburst; The mysterious disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi; Trump’s insane meeting with New York Magazine; Chris Wray sayd his Kavanaugh investigation was limited by the White House; John Roberts refers Kavanaugh allegations to DC Circuit; Election meddling in Georgia and North Dakota; Kanye’s stupid password; Trump in 2020; Avenatti says Don Junior will be indicted; and so much more.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:06:12am
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:08:21am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:13:16am

re: #2 Patricia Kayden

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Chickenshit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:13:20am

Post-Tropical Storm Michael is moving away from the coast.

I wouldn’t want to be on a ship off the East Coast. Holy crap those are high seas.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:14:58am

Victim card played.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:19:31am

Chuck Schumer Bad At Job

Chuck Schumer did that thing again, the thing where he agrees to fast-track a basket full of deplorable Federalist Society-selected federal judges to lifetime appointments, in exchange for allowing the Senate to recess so Democrats could go home and campaign in the last four weeks before the midterms. It’s the same thing Schumer pulled in August, and for much the same reason: Republicans would be able to force through the nominations anyway, no matter how many parliamentary delaying tactics Democrats pulled, so better to cut the carnage and at least have time to campaign. And yet, it still feels like a chickenshit move, mostly because when Mitch McConnell grinned his death’s head leer and dared Schumer to use every trick in the book, Schumer shrugged and settled for the shit sandwich McConnell offered. You just don’t reward that bastard and say Welp, we tried. You coulda done more, but now we’ll have 15 new rightwing judges — all men; good gender politics there, Republicans.

Yes, yes, it’s imperative Dems do all they can to retake the Senate, and to do that, at least four to six Dems in extremely tight races in red states have to hold their seats. And yes, we know, a Republican majority is a Republican majority, and anyone pretending Bart O’Kavefish could have been defeated needs to LEARN A MATH, PIGFUCK. But as Politico’s Burgess Everett points out, Schumer wouldn’t have to keep ALL the Democratic senators in Washington to make the Rs work for those 15 judges:

wonkette.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:22:10am
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:23:16am

Lovely:

Most of the U.S. Department of Defense’s (DoD) newest weapons systems are plagued by security issues, including passwords that took seconds to guess or were never changed from their factory settings, and cyber vulnerabilities that were known but never corrected, according to a new Government Accountability Office report. The study found the Pentagon is “just beginning to grapple with” the scale of the vulnerabilities to its weapons systems. Analysis of data from cybersecurity tests conducted on DoD weapons systems from 2012 to 2017 found by using simple tools and techniques, malefactors could hijack systems and largely operate undetected because of basic vulnerabilities. DoD researchers also interviewed cybersecurity officials, analyzing how the systems are protected and their responses to attacks. The report cited “widespread examples of weaknesses in each of the four security objectives that cybersecurity tests normally examine: protect, detect, respond, and recover.”

npr.org

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:24:30am

re: #8 Belafon

And all I can think of is this:

Archer - Mole Hunt - Hacking scene

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:25:56am

Big rally in the Dow today is just slip sliding away.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:29:33am

I did so much traveling to foreign countries with various bands that I sometimes have nightmares about going through customs and realizing I forgot my passport. Last night I dreamt I was in Singapore when this happened and they were going to execute me.

I think I’m suffering from PTSD. President Trump Stress Disorder.

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:31:16am

This looks like a clumsy attempt to get out in front of this story.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:32:23am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I did so much traveling to foreign countries with various bands that I sometimes have nightmares about going through customs and realizing I forgot my passport. Last night I dreamt I was in Singapore when this happened and they were going to execute me.

I think I’m suffering from PTSD. President Trump Stress Disorder.

I can only imagine how stressful it is if they still make GI’s use their military ID’s when travelling on civilian airlines to overseas duty. A passport merely marks you as American but a military ID would be that much more so.

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Teddy's Person  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:41:40am

The combination of the headline of the post and photograph is very disturbing. I suppose that’s the point, but yuck.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:43:08am
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:43:38am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:48:05am

re: #13 William Lewis

I can only imagine how stressful it is if they still make GI’s use their military ID’s when travelling on civilian airlines to overseas duty. A passport merely marks you as American but a military ID would be that much more so.

The last time I traveled overseas on military duty (with my family), we traveled on passports which looked identical on the outside, but were emblazoned with the Department of Defense symbol inside. We weren’t required to use our IDs but that’s pretty much the same.

As for traveling while in Spain, we used tourist passports. (Spain issues a foreign military ID card for use in the country, and you could travel to any NATO nation on a military ID card, but tourist passports were lower key.)

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:48:32am

re: #14 Teddy’s Person

The combination of the headline of the post and photograph is very disturbing. I suppose that’s the point, but yuck.

It’s actually a scene from National Lampoon Vacation - what do you find disturbing? (Seriously asking - if it’s in bad taste for some reason I’ll change it.)

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:50:01am

I knew that girl/scene looked familiar but couldn’t figger it out.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:50:08am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks for the info. My last overseas tour was to Germany in 1993 and I used my ID rather than my passport.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:52:36am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

It’s actually a scene from National Lampoon Vacation - what do you find disturbing? (Seriously asking - if it’s in bad taste for some reason I’ll change it.)

Probably the implied incest and pedophilia.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:55:37am
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:57:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 11:58:25am

re: #20 William Lewis

Thanks for the info. My last overseas tour was to Germany in 1993 and I used my ID rather than my passport.

Mine was in 1992-1994. In classes before I went to Spain, we were recommended to get a tourist passport. (Additionally, Spain would not let US military personnel cross the border to Gibraltar on an ID card or a military passport.)

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Teddy's Person  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:01:04pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

It’s actually a scene from National Lampoon Vacation - what do you find disturbing? (Seriously asking - if it’s in bad taste for some reason I’ll change it.)

Sexualizing young girls is just not my jam.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:02:07pm

Disgraced military officer working for FOX says what?

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:02:54pm

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:03:53pm

re: #25 Teddy’s Person

Sexualizing young girls is just not my jam.

Welp, I didn’t pick the photo - it’s the one Bob used for the podcast. I’m not sure a well-known comedy scene really counts as sexualizing young girls (and the point of the scene wasn’t to do that, either), but I don’t want anyone to be put off, so I’ll switch the photo to something else.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:05:41pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Welp, I didn’t pick the photo - it’s the one Bob used for the podcast. I’m not sure a well-known comedy scene really counts as sexualizing young girls (and the point of the scene wasn’t to do that, either), but I don’t want anyone to be put off, so I’ll switch the photo to something else.

You are a very considerate person.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:13:38pm

re: #27 makeitstop

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:14:50pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Disgraced military officer working for FOX says what?

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No, it takes a Cuban Canadian.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:15:16pm
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Swampwitch  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:15:36pm

Delurking for a moment to say that on our first date my late husband took me to see Vacation. I don’t think that scene was sexualizing a young girl/promoting incest so much as it was showing just how awful Cousin Eddie was. And yes, I may be looking at it through nostalgic-first date-rose colored glasses.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:18:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:18:33pm

re: #33 Swampwitch

Delurking for a moment to say that on our first date my late husband took me to see Vacation. I don’t think that scene was sexualizing a young girl/promoting incest so much as it was showing just how awful Cousin Eddie was. And yes, I may be looking at it through nostalgic-first date-rose colored glasses.

Yes, that’s what the scene was about.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:18:56pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

The people who have trouble with this are the ones who require the “Please do not put this plastic bag over your head” warnings.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:21:41pm

OT Commentary:

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Later folks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:23:37pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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Exactly. In Science, we don’t debate. We may argue, but the way we argue is by trying to construct a more perfect hypothesis, and testing it, or by pointing out better ways of testing. In the end, the DATA drive the conclusion, not who has the best Powerpoint presentation, or writes the best op-ed.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:25:12pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Disgraced military officer working for FOX says what?

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If that’s their best argument against O’Rourke, they are struggling…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:27:18pm

So, how has Trump fucked up America today?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:28:08pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Most conservative views can be tied to a failure of imagination, people either incapable or just unwilling to try to put themselves in others’ skins. Climate change is tied to that because people’s lives are comfortable now and they either can’t or won’t consider the experiences of future generations. My Stepdad literally said he doesn’t care because he’ll be dead before the consequences truly set in, a purely psychopathic answer that utterly dismisses the very real disaster his own grandchildren face.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:28:52pm

I have problems dealing with changing nics (and all other changes [I have accepted that nothing is constant but change, but it’s always too fast or too slow]), but if I were to take a new nic, it would be

impolite arrogant woman

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:29:02pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:30:12pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

Disgraced military officer working for FOX says what?

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Yes, a man who has lived all but about 6 years of his life in Texas is definitely not a real Texan.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:32:24pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Most conservative views can be tied to a failure of imagination, people either incapable or just unwilling to try to put themselves in others’ skins. Climate change is tied to that because people’s lives are comfortable now and they either can’t or won’t consider the experiences of future generations. My Stepdad literally said he doesn’t care because he’ll be dead before the consequences truly set in, a purely psychopathic answer that utterly dismisses the very real disaster his own grandchildren face.

My dad has made a few comments like that, and (he’s a baby boomer) “my generation has fucked things up, and now I’m just riding it out.” My general response is “gee, thanks.” I’m leaning towards changing it to “ok, then please don’t vote anymore.”

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:33:09pm

re: #44 KGxvi

Yes, a man who has lived all but about 6 years of his life in Texas is definitely not a real Texan.

Beto has a simple Southern vernacular, too. In two languages.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:33:31pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Most conservative views can be tied to a failure of imagination, people either incapable or just unwilling to try to put themselves in others’ skins. Climate change is tied to that because people’s lives are comfortable now and they either can’t or won’t consider the experiences of future generations. My Stepdad literally said he doesn’t care because he’ll be dead before the consequences truly set in, a purely psychopathic answer that utterly dismisses the very real disaster his own grandchildren face.

People like that should at the very least be excluded from voting. Caring about the future should be the bare-minimum requirement.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:34:11pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Most conservative views can be tied to a failure of imagination, people either incapable or just unwilling to try to put themselves in others’ skins. Climate change is tied to that because people’s lives are comfortable now and they either can’t or won’t consider the experiences of future generations. My Stepdad literally said he doesn’t care because he’ll be dead before the consequences truly set in, a purely psychopathic answer that utterly dismisses the very real disaster his own grandchildren face.

This.

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nines09  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:35:16pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

So, how has Trump fucked up America today?

He woke up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:37:24pm

he’s bringing paper towels…

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:38:06pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Must be impossible to picture Hurricanes Maria, Florence, and Michael. The superstorms in the south Pacific also ephemeral, academic discussions. Persistent drought in huge areas of the Southwest and Texas—same thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:38:18pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:38:34pm

re: #47 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

People like that should at the very least be excluded from voting. Caring about the future should be the bare-minimum requirement.

They can’t imagine being black or brown, being an immigrant or refugee, needing public assistance, being pregnant and not wanting to be, being a religious or sexual minority …

So why would an unwillingness to imagine the future be any different?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:39:54pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

So, how has Trump fucked up America today?

Which Trump? Does undermining the institution of marriage count? If Conservatives existed, they’d be pretty upset about this.

Melania Trump says President Trump’s alleged affairs are ‘not concern and focus of mine’

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:40:03pm

“Do the paper towel toss, Mr. President. The world loves it when you do your signature moves.”

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:40:24pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:41:07pm

From the Stopped Clock File:

Now, multiple Senators are questioning if WWE should still hold the upcoming November show in light of recent events. “I’d hope that they would be rethinking their relationship with the kingdom, especially with respect to events coming up in the next weeks like [WWE Crown Jewel].” Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) told ijr.com.

Sen. Lindsey Graham responded, “there should be a pause,” when asked by IJR about WWE working with the kingdom.

Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) pointed to the connection Linda McMahon has in the president’s cabinet (Small Business Administrator) and felt President Donald Trump should possibly ask WWE to hold off on Crown Jewel.

“Private enterprise is private enterprise, different than a governmental entity,” Menendez said. “But because [Linda McMahon] is part of the president’s cabinet, it falls into the grey area where the administration really should give it some thought and maybe even prevail upon them not doing it.”

The WWE hasn’t been saying much about the situation, but they’ve been promoting the Crown Jewel event as, basically, a PPV. It’ll be interesting to see if they’re brave enough to do the right thing. This being the professional wrestling business, history suggests they might not, but there’s always hope.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:42:17pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:43:07pm

pretty sure he wouldn’t be allowed to do this.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:44:30pm
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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:45:52pm

re: #60 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

July 19, 2016, the day that Trump was formally nominated by the party.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:45:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:49:05pm

Greater Cincinnati area about to be slimed:

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:51:33pm

Winning.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:54:33pm

re: #64 Single-handed sailor

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Winning.

Possibly. Sidelining America allows other people to take the lead on this.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:54:59pm

re: #64 Single-handed sailor

Someone needs to send Trump a Chinese finger puzzle and explain trade to him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:56:18pm

re: #41 goddamnedfrank

Most conservative views can be tied to a failure of imagination, people either incapable or just unwilling to try to put themselves in others’ skins. Climate change is tied to that because people’s lives are comfortable now and they either can’t or won’t consider the experiences of future generations. My Stepdad literally said he doesn’t care because he’ll be dead before the consequences truly set in, a purely psychopathic answer that utterly dismisses the very real disaster his own grandchildren face.

Funny, isn’t it? These self proclaimed Christians are often the most selfish people in the world.

The Conservative ideology is easy to boil down to its core: “Your life sucks because other people made it suck therefore you have a duty to exploit them however you need to to fight back.”

You can’t get a good job because of affirmative action / black people.

You’re paying too much in taxes because illegal immigrants are sucking down welfare.

You can’t hit on a woman because she’ll nail you with a sexual harassment suit.

The media are against you because it’s all run by Jews.

Nevermind that maybe you can’t get a good job because you aren’t trying hard enough and you’re paying too much in taxes because you aren’t good with money and you aren’t getting dates because you suck with women and the media doesn’t give a shit about you one way or the other.

There’s always a scapegoat. There’s always a boogeyman.

It’s not you, it’s “Them”.

And as long as you can blame all your problems on other people, you won’t be very inclined to fix them yourself.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:57:28pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure he wouldn’t be allowed to do this.

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Just like any good Nazi would

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 12:59:32pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

Funny, isn’t it? These self proclaimed Christians are often the most selfish people in the world.

The Conservative ideology is easy to boil down to its core: “Your life sucks because other people made it suck therefore you have a duty to exploit them however you need to to fight back.”

You can’t get a good job because of affirmative action / black people.

You’re paying too much in taxes because illegal immigrants are sucking down welfare.

You can’t hit on a woman because she’ll nail you with a sexual harassment suit.

The media are against you because it’s all run by Jews.

Nevermind that maybe you can’t a good job because you aren’t trying hard enough and you’re paying too much in taxes because you aren’t good with money and you aren’t getting dates because you suck with women and the media doesn’t give a shit about you one way or the other.

There’s always a scapegoat. There’s always a boogeyman.

It’s not you, it’s “Them”.

And as long as you can blame all your problems on other people, you won’t be very inclined to fix them yourself.

This is of course the recipe for a failed subculture, and a failed nation if we don’t put smarter people in charge.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:04:45pm
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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:12:59pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

The only principle the Republican party has is to seize power using any available means.

Republicans want this power for tax cuts on the rich and for the sheer pleasure of ruling.

The primary means the Republican party uses to secure that power is demagoguery and scapegoating, supplemented as needed with voter suppression and stochastic terrorism.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:23:12pm

re: #71 EPR-radar

The only principle the Republican party has is to seize power using any available means.

Republicans want this power for tax cuts on the rich and for the sheer pleasure of ruling.

The primary means the Republican party uses to secure that power is demagoguery and scapegoating, supplemented as needed with voter suppression and stochastic terrorism.

I think the tax cuts are the price they pay for the sheer pleasure of ruling. If there was some other way of pleasing their big money donors, they’d be all for that instead of tax cuts.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:23:30pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:24:57pm

Is there any way to get rid of this goddamn stupid ad?

It appears several times in each string, always right in the middle of a message, and this has been going on for a couple of days. I would never do business with these idiots anyway, but even if they were offering something legit, I would boycott them just for using these shitty methods.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:26:45pm

re: #64 Single-handed sailor

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Winning.

The fact that we are still technically at war with North Korea 65 years after the last shots were fired is insane. The armistice is older than my parents, and if it were a person, it could collect social security.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:29:38pm

re: #64 Single-handed sailor

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Winning.

Moon Jae-in’s popularity has been rapidly sinking, he was at 83% in April and dropped to 49% by the first week of September. He’s rebounded a bit due to the summit on the 18th but he’s going to begin dropping again as the brutal reality of how much he’s caved to KJU sinks in further.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:30:47pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

I have problems dealing with changing nics (and all other changes [I have accepted that nothing is constant but change, but it’s always too fast or too slow]), but if I were to take a new nic, it would be

impolite arrogant woman

Please stay with wrenchwench. Not only is it unforgettable and poetic, but it sorta throws the same message as the other in through the side window.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:36:36pm

re: #77 whitebeach

Thanks, I will! I think I’ll even keep it longer than my bike shop. I am putting a few keepers in a toolbox to go.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:38:27pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

If I were to change mine it would be to Bitches Get Stuff Done. Not exactly poetic, but hey, neither am I.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:38:55pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

I have problems dealing with changing nics (and all other changes [I have accepted that nothing is constant but change, but it’s always too fast or too slow]), but if I were to take a new nic, it would be

The biggest reason I never change nics here is that if one does it even once their name will forever then be inside parenthesis as a testament to their faithlessness. I’ve worked too hard establishing goddamnedfrank as a trustworthy motherfucking brand denoting top quality bullshit to go and mess it up like that.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:41:31pm

re: #42 wrenchwench

I have problems dealing with changing nics (and all other changes [I have accepted that nothing is constant but change, but it’s always too fast or too slow]), but if I were to take a new nic, it would be

re: #77 whitebeach

If my middle son were online, he’d adopt it for you.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:43:00pm

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

The biggest reason I never change nics here is that if one does it even once their name will forever then be inside parenthesis as a testament to their faithlessness. I’ve worked too hard establishing goddamnedfrank as a trustworthy motherfucking brand denoting top quality bullshit to go and mess it up like that.

Brand is everything!

/it has been 5 years since my last Interbike…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:52:00pm

Dear Moron,
Fuck off.
Signed,
A farmer

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:53:45pm

I don’t recall who posted the video of Sister Rosetta Tharpe the other day, but here’s another really good one - from a live performance in Manchester, England back in 1964.

Damn. That’s all I can say. What a legend.

Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Didn’t It Rain

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:54:39pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:54:44pm

AUTOMATIC BLOCKING FUNCTION ENGAGED.

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BigPapa  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:55:46pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

Moron Lube is blocking trigger for me

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2018 • 1:57:27pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

They just can’t stop advertising what assholes they are, can they? It does help sort it out for the rest of us though. Without having to even get to know them first. Winning!

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:02:14pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:03:31pm

re: #80 goddamnedfrank

The biggest reason I never change nics here is that if one does it even once their name will forever then be inside parenthesis as a testament to their faithlessness. I’ve worked too hard establishing goddamnedfrank as a trustworthy motherfucking brand denoting top quality bullshit to go and mess it up like that.

I’ve kept mine for, what, fucking decades, since I first went online to some forgotten chatroom on a 486 computer that has been in a public dump for at least 20 years unless, god forbid, it’s in an evidence locker somewhere.

The name is based on my childhood paradise, which is exactly the sugary beaches we’ve been seeing from helicopter cams the past couple of days, along the destroyed towns of the Florida panhandle. I remember passing through Mexico Beach as an adult with my longtime lady friend, heading for Panacea, but not making it because just after Mexico Beach there was a 40-mile detour through the kind of landscape that gives chain gangs a bad name, as there was a bridge out leading to Port St. Joe. In fact, my friend and I spent the night in the Port St. Joe jail, which was actually a matter of kindness and hospitality, since the only motel was closed and it was apparently against the law to sleep on the beach, however white.

ETA: On the detour, I saw a road sign I’ve never seen before and never expect to see again: CAUTION: ONE-LANE FLOATING DRAWBRIDGE AHEAD.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:05:51pm

re: #86 The Vicious Babushka

AUTOMATIC BLOCKING FUNCTION ENGAGED.

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If only they understood that ascribing to the Moron Label renders wholly incompatible any argument to being a “constitutionalist”.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:06:48pm

re: #87 BigPapa

Moron Lube is blocking trigger for me

Yea.

Nobody ever talks about the Thespians.

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ipsos  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:12:43pm

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Is there any way to get rid of this goddamn stupid ad?

I had something like this happening in Chrome.

Turned out to be an infected (or at least crappy) plug-in that I’d downloaded to save streaming video files. I killed the plug-in and the adware crap went away.

Maybe that helps?

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:19:51pm

re: #84 Dr Lizardo

That was me

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:21:34pm

How fucking dare he.

Get his name out of your lying mouth.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:23:29pm

DW documentary on current Brazil’s election and characters:

Brazil election 2018 - who will be president? | DW Documentary (Politics documentary)

It’s two days old but has background info.

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nowherenorth2  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:25:06pm

re: #95 makeitstop

Get that name out if your mouth you orange turd!

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:26:21pm

re: #96 freetoken

It’s scary to watch Brazilians defend military leaders who murder, but that’s what we’ve got in 2018.

Trump of course is fine with that.

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gwangung  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:27:38pm

re: #98 freetoken

It’s scary to watch Brazilians defend military leaders who murder, but that’s what we’ve got in 2018.

Trump of course is fine with that.

And so, unfortunately, are 45% of Americans.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:28:00pm

re: #94 gocart mozart

That was me

OK. Yeah, I introduced that to one of my students earlier today - she was stunned. She said, “I’ve never heard of her….and it’s like my grandma suddenly got cool and started playing the guitar like Keith Richards or something.”

LOL.

Gonna call it a night. Later, Lizards.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:31:14pm

re: #98 freetoken

It’s scary to watch Brazilians defend military leaders who murder, but that’s what we’ve got in 2018.

Trump of course is fine with that.

Hey, if you’re in Putin’s thong and you “fell in love” with Kim Jung Un, and your dear old dad loved him some Hitler and Klan, what’s the big deal with one more creep in Brazil?

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:33:14pm

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

Keith stole his licks from Chuck Berry but Berry stole his from Tharpe

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:33:32pm
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Chrysicat  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:35:40pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:41:52pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:43:08pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

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Just what I thought about Heller and that he actually never listens to his constituents. I’m voting for Rosen. Get that fucker out of office.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:44:48pm

re: #104 Chrysicat

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:45:25pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:45:37pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

So, how has Trump fucked up America today?

He’s still in office.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:47:33pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

I clicked through to see all those major accomplishments of Heller, and good cotdam that’s a whole lot of simple pulp bullshit that was mostly bipartisan stuff like funding the VA. He is the perfect example of an empty suit back bencher.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:49:30pm

re: #40 Eclectic Cyborg

So, how has Trump fucked up America today?

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makeitstop  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:50:04pm

I usually don’t keep track, but I just clicked on my avatar and noticed that I’ve passed 100k in karma.

Thanks for agreeing with me, you guys. :)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:51:46pm

re: #108 gocart mozart

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Mrs. FBW loves me BECAUSE OF my punning, and I her. Our joke is that we had to marry each other, or we’d be making two strangers miserable.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:53:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:56:27pm

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

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I don’t think the jails in DC are big enough

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2018 • 2:59:21pm

Donny finally found his African American.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:01:50pm

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

The only people in America who have a first amendment right (under existing crappy SCOTUS precedent) to get right in people’s faces as they protest are right wing abortion clinic protestors.

I’m surprised Trump or a crony hasn’t had the bright idea of designating the entire state of California as the ‘free speech zone’ for any anti-GOP protests that would naturally occur in DC.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:02:32pm
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Teddy's Person  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:08:21pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Welp, I didn’t pick the photo - it’s the one Bob used for the podcast. I’m not sure a well-known comedy scene really counts as sexualizing young girls (and the point of the scene wasn’t to do that, either), but I don’t want anyone to be put off, so I’ll switch the photo to something else.

Sorry I stepped away to teach a class. You are a very nice person and considerate blog host.

I saw Vacation once in the 1980s so I didn’t recognize the origin of the image. I was just seeing it as some random photo (of a young girl with her leg spread and a pretty phallic object between her legs) without any context but the title of the post. I haven’t caught up with any of the comments so I hope I didn’t cause too much of a disturbance on the blog. I’m pretty new here and don’t want to cause a scene.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:08:45pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

Keith stole his licks from Chuck Berry but Berry stole his from Tharpe

I had heard that he got/stole a bunch of his stuff from some horn player he knew.
One must be eclectic in one’s borrowings…

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:10:43pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Actually, we have sanctions on a lot of those countries for that reason.

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:12:27pm

re: #118 gocart mozart

vJimmy Kimmel ✔
@jimmykimmel
A great teacher from Texas came all the way to LA for a special performance of her viral hit #AScaryTime@MercedesLynz

8:12 AM - Oct 12, 2018

That was very well done. I hope it helps bring women out to the polls on election day.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:13:22pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:16:05pm

re: #121 Belafon

Actually, we have sanctions on a lot of those countries for that reason.

Yeah, but they don’t “loan” the Trump Organization money, buy their shitty condos, or stay in their hotels.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:16:36pm

I hope Mueller has more bombs to drop soon, I could use some good news.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:19:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:20:26pm

re: #123 gocart mozart

And our side needs to push back on these restrictions on our First Amendment.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:20:57pm

re: #125 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope Mueller has more bombs to drop soon, I could use some good news.

I’m seriously pissed off these days. Trump getting physically dragged out of the white house as he’s being arrested would merely be a good start, and we all know that isn’t going to happen.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:21:47pm

re: #126 gocart mozart

Well, paste and glue eaters have to stick together….(yes, I’ll see myself out now..)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:22:13pm

re: #126 gocart mozart

LOL!!!

At least he didn’t eat paste…

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:22:22pm

re: #126 gocart mozart

This is legit hilarious. Dinesh Douche is supposed to be a wingnut ‘intellectual’, and he’s reduced to apologetics for paste-eating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:23:46pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

Well, paste and glue eaters have to stick together….(yes, I’ll see myself out now..)

paste is for those who can’t afford authentic glue.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:24:00pm

re: #126 gocart mozart

Is this supposed to be incriminating? Are curiosity and experimentation extinct among kids nowadays?

“After all, who among us has not tasted the forbidden fruit of a woman he’s not mattied to, while holding down a ridiculously high paying job with an almost nonexistent “Christian” university?”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:27:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:29:06pm

wondering if Miller sniffed that glue while waiting for it to dry…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:32:16pm
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Chrysicat  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:33:07pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL!!!

At least he didn’t eat paste…

Quite likely only because it would have been VERY hard to find inside a southern-California elementary school by 1993 :-P

Still, I’m not happy to see the Variety piece getting its signal boosted; 1993 is recent enough that privacy-and-secrecy law applies to his teachers and there’s more than enough bad in his time in public life, so this looks like piling on.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:33:46pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:35:20pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:36:43pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:36:59pm

Anti-vaxxer ‘warrior mom’: If vaccines are so great, ‘why aren’t they mentioned in the bible?’

As someone who keeps a fairly close eye on internet quackery, this Tuesday marks the first time I’ve ever come across Brittany Kara’s content. After watching a video mashup of her put together by a pro-vaccine Facebook page, I had to double-check to make sure what I was viewing wasn’t satire. As far as I can tell, Kara is the real deal.

According to her bio on Amazon, Kara is an author, certified master NLP practitioner (go ahead and google that), hypnotherapist, nutrition coach, and mother. The bio adds that she “specializes in teaching people how to detoxify their lives through cleansing and super foods.” She also specializes in spewing some of the most bizarre anti-vaxxer rhetoric I’ve seen yet.

In an edited video posted by The Real Truther, Kara offers a never-before-heard theory on why vaccines are bad: God didn’t give any hint of them in the bible.

“I just decided to just google what the bible says about vaccines,” Kara says at the outset of the video.

“There’s nothing in the bible that talks about vaccines.”

Needless to say, there is also nothing in the Bible about NLP, hypnotherapy, nutrition coaching, or using computers. It does mention mothers though.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:37:53pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

wondering if Miller sniffed that glue while waiting for it to dry…

Probably the wrong kind of glue.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:37:59pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump manages to combine that, by wanting to have sex within his family.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:38:35pm

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Anti-vaxxer ‘warrior mom’: If vaccines are so great, ‘why aren’t they mentioned in the bible?’

Needless to say, there is also nothing in the Bible about NLP, hypnotherapy, nutrition coaching, or using computers. It does mention mothers though.

Did she google what the Bible says about Google?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:41:38pm

re: #141 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Anti-vaxxer ‘warrior mom’: If vaccines are so great, ‘why aren’t they mentioned in the bible?’

Needless to say, there is also nothing in the Bible about NLP, hypnotherapy, nutrition coaching, or using computers. It does mention mothers though.

I suppose it’s nice that now that freak-shows have gone out of fashion, the freaks put themselves on display on the Internet.

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Chrysicat  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:42:09pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:42:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:43:38pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:45:10pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

That one that fights against totalitarianism. They’re fine with Sheldon Adelson.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:46:12pm

Bismarck Police to Bring First Tactical Intervention Vehicle to North Dakota

Ready for the expected Canadian invasion?

Reminds me of this:

Renault FT light tank, 1917
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:47:58pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure he wouldn’t be allowed to do this.

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I don’t know about Minnesota, but I can authoritatively say that many of the attorneys in the Kentucky AGs office are classified merit employees, and this would definitely be illegal. In fact the previous GOP Governor, Ernie Fletcher, had a lot of legal trouble and lost his re-election bid because his administration engaged in handing out merit system jobs as political patronage.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:48:16pm

re: #146 Chrysicat

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I’ve had discussions, years ago, with some more educated wingnuts who maintain that things like desegregation, abortion, marriage equality, etc. should not be decided by courts, but rather legislatively, that we as a society should make the conscious decision, by majority vote, to make these changes.

The thing is, what the Court did was not to give anyone new rights. It was to RECOGNIZE that those rights already existed, and were guaranteed by the Constitution, but had not been previously recognized.

Mind you, when asked whether gun control could be passed by referendum, said, “Rights should never be subject to majority vote!”, and of course they were totally jazzed when the SCOTUS recognized the individual right to own guns, in Heller.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:48:39pm

re: #140 gocart mozart

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oh ohh!! I remember this one!!

(ship too late to save a drowning witch)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:51:18pm

re: #151 Big Beautiful Door

My favorite Ernie Fletcher official action was to hand out blanket pre-pardons to everyone, just like Oprah giving away cars

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:53:05pm

re: #90 whitebeach

I’ve kept mine for, what, fucking decades, since I first went online to some forgotten chatroom on a 486 computer that has been in a public dump for at least 20 years unless, god forbid, it’s in an evidence locker somewhere.

The name is based on my childhood paradise, which is exactly the sugary beaches we’ve been seeing from helicopter cams the past couple of days, along the destroyed towns of the Florida panhandle. I remember passing through Mexico Beach as an adult with my longtime lady friend, heading for Panacea, but not making it because just after Mexico Beach there was a 40-mile detour through the kind of landscape that gives chain gangs a bad name, as there was a bridge out leading to Port St. Joe. In fact, my friend and I spent the night in the Port St. Joe jail, which was actually a matter of kindness and hospitality, since the only motel was closed and it was apparently against the law to sleep on the beach, however white.

ETA: On the detour, I saw a road sign I’ve never seen before and never expect to see again: CAUTION: ONE-LANE FLOATING DRAWBRIDGE AHEAD.

I lived in Ft. Walton Beach awhile as a kid when my Dad was stationed at Eglin AFB.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:53:27pm

This could be an ideal riot tank for up-to-date Trump-loyal police:

Just equip it with a high pressure incinerator, load it with confiscated marijuana, and you’re ready to calm the angriest mob of violent, Soros-paid Democrats.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:54:02pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:54:10pm

re: #150 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That skid steer could be defeated by a steep ditch.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:54:47pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve had discussions, years ago, with some more educated wingnuts who maintain that things like desegregation, abortion, marriage equality, etc. should not be decided by courts, but rather legislatively, that we as a society should make the conscious decision, by majority vote, to make these changes.

The thing is, what the Court did was not to give anyone new rights. It was to RECOGNIZE that those rights already existed, and were guaranteed by the Constitution, but had not been previously recognized.

Mind you, when asked whether gun control could be passed by referendum, said, “Rights should never be subject to majority vote!”, and of course they were totally jazzed when the SCOTUS recognized the individual right to own guns, in Heller.

Putting people’s rights up for a vote basically sucks, but having a totally unrepresentative set of 9 judges decide what everyone’s rights really amount to also basically sucks. Recent history was even worse, where on several issues Justice Kennedy’s views were literally the only ones that mattered in the entire nation.

Ultimately, I’m not aware of any really good way to secure minority rights in a representative democracy.

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sagehen  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:56:21pm

so now they’re reporting where the Khashoggi murder tapes came from:

He was suspicious and worried already when he went into the consulate — so he synced his apple watch to the cloud and his fiancee’s phone, so everything would be recorded.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 12, 2018 • 3:58:13pm

re: #102 gocart mozart

Keith stole his licks from Chuck Berry but Berry stole his from Tharpe

Ask Ry Cooder about his dealings with Keith.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:01:38pm

re: #155 Big Beautiful Door

I lived in Ft. Walton Beach awhile as a kid when my Dad was stationed at Eglin AFB.

My dad was stationed at Eglin for a time during WWII and loved the area. That’s why we went to either Ft. Walton Beach or, way more often, just east of Destin every summer we could afford it. I first saw Destin when I was six years old and it was a one-boat fishing village. Why the hell dad didn’t buy us a place and just move there I’ll never understand. We all loved it.

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Chrysicat  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:02:09pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ve had discussions, years ago, with some more educated wingnuts who maintain that things like desegregation, abortion, marriage equality, etc. should not be decided by courts, but rather legislatively, that we as a society should make the conscious decision, by majority vote, to make these changes.

The thing is, what the Court did was not to give anyone new rights. It was to RECOGNIZE that those rights already existed, and were guaranteed by the Constitution, but had not been previously recognized.

Mind you, when asked whether gun control could be passed by referendum, said, “Rights should never be subject to majority vote!”, and of course they were totally jazzed when the SCOTUS recognized the individual right to own guns, in Heller.

I had discussions with similar types, though they couldn’t have technically been educated yet as they were high-school students trying to recruit another one (I didn’t acknowledge myself as trans until 4 years after I graduated HS). It’s amazingly effective on young white ‘boys/men’ who see equality and think they’re being discriminated against because they don’t understand their ‘old future’ was only even possible because they were standing on the shoulders of the people who really earned it, including me until I rejected not-just-masculinity-but-manhood.

I will fully acknowledge that had I not transitioned, I’d probably be deep in the white-supremacist and manosphere sides of things now, both as a rebellion against my (personal; I have cousins who are full-on Sovereign Citizens, because both sides of my mother’s family other than her own parents had a disturbing habit of marrying the Pacific Northwest’s PWT) upbringing and as an attempt to ‘prove my manliness’, especially to myself. I think it’s quite literally #ThereButForTheGraceOfGod.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:05:35pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

My favorite Ernie Fletcher official action was to hand out blanket pre-pardons to everyone, just like Oprah giving away cars

You get a pardon and you get a pardon, everyone gets pardons! That pretty much sealed his defeat.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:06:18pm

re: #160 sagehen

so now they’re reporting where the Khashoggi murder tapes came from:

He was suspicious and worried already when he went into the consulate — so he synced his apple watch to the cloud and his fiancee’s phone, so everything would be recorded.

Smart man. Normally I’d hope this would bring down the government that did it, but I expect that something worse will rise up in its place. I don’t have a lot of faith that religious extremists will ever do the right thing. People with stunted minds are dangerous.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:08:09pm

re: #162 whitebeach

My dad was stationed at Eglin for a time during WWII and loved the area. That’s why we went to either Ft. Walton Beach or, way more often, just east of Destin every summer we could afford it. I first saw Destin when I was six years old and it was a one-boat fishing village. Why the hell dad didn’t buy us a place and just move there I’ll never understand. We all loved it.

Maybe he was worried about hurricanes!

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:11:26pm
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Teukka  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:11:58pm

re: #157 Teukka

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And on a more personal note, I’m in the very early stages of writing something which takes place before, during and after a “perfect storm” scenario where climate change, an authoritarian world coup and emerging diseases converge to cause an extinction level event.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:12:30pm

re: #160 sagehen

so now they’re reporting where the Khashoggi murder tapes came from:

He was suspicious and worried already when he went into the consulate — so he synced his apple watch to the cloud and his fiancee’s phone, so everything would be recorded.

gee…what are the odds that one of the Saudi “agents” took the watch and it kept right on streaming.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:12:41pm

re: #163 Chrysicat

I had discussions with similar types, though they couldn’t have technically been educated yet as they were high-school students trying to recruit another one (I didn’t acknowledge myself as trans until 4 years after I graduated HS). It’s amazingly effective on young white ‘boys/men’ who see equality and think they’re being discriminated against because they don’t understand their ‘old future’ was only even possible because they were standing on the shoulders of the people who really earned it, including me until I rejected not-just-masculinity-but-manhood.

I will fully acknowledge that had I not transitioned, I’d probably be deep in the white-supremacist and manosphere sides of things now, both as a rebellion against my (personal; I have cousins who are full-on Sovereign Citizens, because both sides of my mother’s family other than her own parents had a disturbing habit of marrying the Pacific Northwest’s PWT) upbringing and as an attempt to ‘prove my manliness’, especially to myself. I think it’s quite literally #ThereButForTheGraceOfGod.

I’m currently discussing “identity politics” with a Conservative friend on FB. He’s enamored of the Right’s trick of branding the identity politics of the Left as “Common Enemy Identity Politics”, as opposed to “Common Humanity Identity Politics” which is what the Right’s re-imagined version of Martin Luther King practiced.

I pointed out that he’s got it wrong, and the division is really between identity politics practiced by the group in power - old white men - versus everyone else to maintain power, and that practiced by all the people NOT in power to gain equality. The identity politics of the out-groups is a reaction to the identity politics practiced by the in-group against them. I don’t know if he’ll accept that, but all I can do is lead the horse to water.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:13:05pm

Russia? China? Hacking? 2 down, how many more to go? I bet Alex Jones is all over this shit, just not many people will read what he has to vomit now.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:13:14pm

re: #168 Teukka

And on a more personal note, I’m in the very early stages of writing something which takes place before, during and after a “perfect storm” scenario where climate change, an authoritarian world coup and emerging diseases converge to cause an extinction level event.

It’s depressing that there’s a serious chance this will become nonfiction in due course.

Good luck with the writing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:14:23pm

Kobach again shows he’s really bad at lawyer stuff.
I don’t remember ever seeing in the US Constitution a right to participate in the “Iola’s Farm City Days” parade.

“… Kobach said that he believes organizers can’t prevent him from using the Jeep in Saturday’s parade in southeast Kansas without violating his free speech rights. …”

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:16:28pm

re: #166 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe he was worried about hurricanes!

Funny thing is, from my first visit as a kid until something like 45 years later with Opal in 1995 (and yes, I was there, in a seaside cabin at the now defunct Silver Beach in Destin, from which I evacuated like a fleeing bank robber at 5 a.m.), not a single major hurricane hit the Panhandle.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:17:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:19:00pm

re: #175 jaunte

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If this passes, I say it’s time for a ginormous protest march. Make him try and stop us.

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:20:06pm

re: #168 Teukka

And on a more personal note, I’m in the very early stages of writing something which takes place before, during and after a “perfect storm” scenario where climate change, an authoritarian world coup and emerging diseases converge to cause an extinction level event.

Everybody loves light comedy. May I suggest the title “Send in the Clowns”?

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:20:09pm

re: #163 Chrysicat

I’m right in the sweet spot for GOP demographics (white male, 50s, reasonably well off) except that I’m gay. Even without that, the US right’s ever-increasing embrace of weaponized stupidity would most likely have driven me away from the GOP.

But being gay made it certain. There really are only two kinds of Republicans on that issue: the ones who want to exterminate non-straights, and the ones who will do nothing to stop the first group from having their way. The second group being much larger in numbers than the first group cuts no ice with me.

Self-preservation brings a certain focus to political issues.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:22:40pm
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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:23:12pm

re: #178 EPR-radar

I’m right in the sweet spot for GOP demographics (white male, 50s, reasonably well off) except that I’m gay. Even without that, the US right’s ever-increasing embrace of weaponized stupidity would most likely have driven me away from the GOP.

But being gay made it certain. There really are only two kinds of Republicans on that issue: the ones who want to exterminate non-straights, and the ones who will do nothing to stop the first group from having their way. The second group being much larger in numbers than the first group cuts no ice with me.

Self-preservation brings a certain focus to political issues.

And Log Cabin Republicans still think the GOP gator will eat them last.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:24:22pm

re: #179 gocart mozart

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:25:04pm

re: #175 jaunte

I submitted a comment.

But the age of Trump is making me paranoid, so I used a VPN to connect to the government site.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:25:09pm

re: #172 EPR-radar

It’s depressing that there’s a serious chance this will become nonfiction in due course.

Good luck with the writing.

Kim Stanley Robinsons “Green Earth” trilogy writing style actually influences me in writing the story, trying to cram it as full of fact as possible without ruining it.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:25:26pm

re: #180 TedStriker

And Log Cabin Republicans still think the GOP gator will eat them last.

I have nothing but contempt for the Log Cabin Republicans. I usually call them Quislings, but they are more like the few and extremely idiotic jews who worked for/with the Nazis.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:27:21pm

re: #183 Teukka

Kim Stanley Robinsons “Green Earth” trilogy writing style actually influences me in writing the story, trying to cram it as full of fact as possible without ruining it.

IMO KSR overdid it in the Mars books. One can only take so many pages of text on shattered regolith in one sitting. Admittedly this is a small flaw in a very good series.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:27:31pm
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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:29:32pm

re: #144 Blind Frog Belly White

Did she google what the Bible says about Google?

These people that want it all explained in the Bible make my head hurt.

They’ve so gotten religion distorted by their preachers, Sunday school teachers and religious media they no longer know where the Bible fits in Christianity.

It is not a damned encyclopedia, cookbook, laws of engineering manual, car manual fix it guide, farmers almanac, weather forecaster, guide to the science of color, computer language…etc.

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EPR-radar  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:32:18pm

re: #187 ObserverArt

These people that want it all explained in the Bible make my head hurt.

They’ve so gotten religion distorted by their preachers, Sunday school teachers and religious media they no longer know where the Bible fits in Christianity.

It is not a damned encyclopedia, cookbook, laws of engineering manual, car manual fix it guide, farmers almanac, weather forecaster, guide to the science of color, computer language…etc.

Much would be improved if the curse of widespread belief in biblical literalism were removed from the nation. That’s like a black hole of stupidity, since commitment to that requires ever-increasing detachment from reality as the contradictions endlessly pile up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:33:18pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:34:33pm

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ObserverArt  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:35:19pm

re: #177 whitebeach

Everybody loves light comedy. May I suggest the title “Send in the Clowns”?

I think they did…see post number 179 just below. There are the clowns.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:37:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:38:27pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:38:27pm
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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:44:49pm

re: #194 jaunte

Leslie has had very long life.

Back when it formed as a tropical storm (it has previously been an extra-tropical storm for some time) I looked at the GFS model animation and it had Leslie going in several loops. I thought it funny and was going to post the gif here and say that GFS was drunk.

But GFS models were correct - Leslie did do loops.

Until today the NHC had Leslie turning south then west again right before it hit Africa, but now Leslie looks to hit Iberia.

The British Isles have been hit with storms that are making the transition from tropical to extra-tropical, but I don’t know about mainland Europe.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:45:49pm

re: #193 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WTH has happened to Florida? They’re just not trying any more.

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Teukka  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:45:57pm

re: #177 whitebeach

Everybody loves light comedy. May I suggest the title “Send in the Clowns”?

Light comedic scenes will occur in it :)
Can’t say it will be a comedy overall though.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:49:22pm

re: #194 jaunte

The image used in Molina’s tweet is now OBE.

The latest track guidance:

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:50:05pm

Confederate and Nazi flags?

“Free Speech, snowflake!”

A sign protesting Republican assault on women, literally and figuratively?

“That’s where we draw the line!”

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:52:23pm

Our Russian friends are very concerned the F-35 is an unsafe aircraft to fly. Very, very concerned they are.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:53:17pm

re: #196 Skip Intro

WTH has happened to Florida? They’re just not trying any more.

Maybe Darwin’s done with Florida.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 4:59:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:00:46pm

re: #119 Teddy’s Person

Sorry I stepped away to teach a class. You are a very nice person and considerate blog host.

I saw Vacation once in the 1980s so I didn’t recognize the origin of the image. I was just seeing it as some random photo (of a young girl with her leg spread and a pretty phallic object between her legs) without any context but the title of the post. I haven’t caught up with any of the comments so I hope I didn’t cause too much of a disturbance on the blog. I’m pretty new here and don’t want to cause a scene.

That scene is staged with two girls on a seesaw. No phallic objects here - that’s the handle of the seesaw.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:02:56pm
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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:04:02pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

[Trump on possibility of punishing Saudi Arabia for apparently murdering a dissident journalist:]

Look, they murdered a journalist. Is that so bad?

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:04:10pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

Extra judicial killings of journalists isn’t a problem if said journalist isn’t a US citizen?

That doesn’t seem like the sort of message we want to send to the rest of the world.

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KGxvi  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:06:30pm

re: #204 Charles Johnson

There are times when it feels like world leaders are just sitting around thinking “we can’t let this turn into ‘an international incident’ not with that moron in DC.” Meanwhile, the anti-democratic, authoritarian, autocratic tyrants continue to stir the pot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:08:05pm

I intended to only post the bear tweet, but, it’s part of a thread

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:10:50pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:13:34pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

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Between those comments and this:

It’s becoming increasingly clear that the White House knew about the Saudi plot…and gave explicit orders to allow a journalist to walk right into an assassination.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:14:07pm

re: #206 KGxvi

Extra judicial killings of journalists isn’t a problem if said journalist isn’t a US citizen?

That doesn’t seem like the sort of message we want to send to the rest of the world.

It’s a terrible message.

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wrenchwench  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:16:25pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

It’s becoming increasingly clear that the White House knew about the Saudi plot…and gave explicit orders to allow a journalist to walk right into an assassination.

Almost like the Saudis paid Trump off, or something.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:16:52pm

re: #212 wrenchwench

Almost like the Saudis paid Trump off, or something.

Or (more likely) paid off Jared.

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:19:13pm
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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:19:52pm

re: #210 Targetpractice

Between those comments and this:

It’s becoming increasingly clear that the White House knew about the Saudi plot…and gave explicit orders to allow a journalist to walk right into an assassination.

Fuck, just sub “SovCits” and/or “white supremacists” for “Saudis” and you know Trump & Co. would do the same thing as with Khashoggi, which is to leave them hung out to dry.

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Interesting Times  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:21:10pm

durr hurr, the kkk were all dems herp derp

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:22:57pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:24:05pm

Ken Burn’s documentary on the Trump years is really going to be something.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:24:57pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:25:14pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:26:51pm

re: #206 KGxvi

Extra judicial killings of journalists isn’t a problem if said journalist isn’t a US citizen?

That doesn’t seem like the sort of message we want to send to the rest of the world.

So I am going to a bit tRumpian here.

1. Jamal Khashogg was a Saudi national.
2. As far as we know, he was tried in a (secret) Saudi Court of Law (////) and found
guilty of crimes against the State and sentenced to death.
3. He willfully entered into a Saudi diplomatic consulate (aka Sovereign territory).
4. Above sentence was carried out in accordance with Saudi Law.
5. Not our (United States) problem.
6. Let Turkey handle it if they have a problem because, see all the above.

It disgusts me that I have even posted the above hypothesis because it is, well disgusting. But it will not surprise me in the least if this isn’t the tact this administration takes. And if it happens to another journalist here in the U.S., in another Countries Embassy or Consulate the reaction will be the same. Yawn. It didn’t happen on “our” land

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nines09  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:27:26pm

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:29:05pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:30:33pm

General Grant is being recognized more and more.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:31:35pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:32:54pm
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retired cynic  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:33:06pm

Now for something beautiful: butterfly wings!

thisiscolossal.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:34:04pm
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Citizen K  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:36:17pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

It’s a terrible message.

It’s the same message Trump won on: “America First, fuck everyone else”

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:37:07pm

Robert E. Lee and General Grant. Most people don’t know who they are but they’ve got a great future ahead of them, believe me!

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:38:36pm

I bet Trump heard about that school changing its name.

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TedStriker  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:39:30pm

re: #228 Charles Johnson

Don’t waste your time arguing that Lee was a skilled general. Sure, he was skilled. And he was defending slavery. He was a fucking traitor and I couldn’t care less about his military prowess.

— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 13, 2018

As a Southerner, I’ll say this: after the Civil War, as part of Reconstruction, Jeff Davis and the CSA civilian leadership, as well as Robert E. Lee and the CSA commissioned officers that remained, should have had fair and speedy trials for their treachery, then, if convicted, met their ends at the end of a rope.

So many PoC in this country have suffered and died after Reconstruction was summarily executed because of half-ass half-measures taken against the former CSA and her leaders.

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Targetpractice  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:40:05pm

At the rate he’s going, by this time next week, he’ll be arguing that the Emancipation Proclamation was a mistake and he’ll see about having it overturned.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:41:41pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:44:27pm

These folks don’t look very happy despite all the winning.

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Interesting Times  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:48:53pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

At the rate he’s going, by this time next week, he’ll be arguing that the Emancipation Proclamation was a mistake and he’ll see about having it overturned.

Hey, the rally-ratings drop was so bigly even fox stopped carrying it live, so gotta do something to turn things around.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:54:26pm
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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:55:48pm

Looking at the faces of those trump rally-goers brings this to mind:

“…the brain of someone who misuses drugs adjusts by producing fewer neurotransmitters in the reward circuit, or by reducing the number of receptors that can receive signals. As a result, the person’s ability to experience pleasure from naturally rewarding (i.e., reinforcing) activities is also reduced.

This is why a person who misuses drugs eventually feels flat, without motivation, lifeless, and/or depressed, and is unable to enjoy things that were previously pleasurable. Now, the person needs to keep taking drugs to experience even a normal level of reward—which only makes the problem worse, like a vicious cycle. Also, the person will often need to take larger amounts of the drug to produce the familiar high—an effect known as tolerance.”
drugabuse.gov

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:56:43pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 12, 2018 • 5:58:27pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

So Trump doesn’t think Permanent Residents matter?

Well Fuck You, too Mr. President.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:02:24pm

Great tweet, must click through to get how clever it is.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:02:39pm

No Climate Change in fiction? My Pope Emperor of the Viridian Design Movement, and friend, Bruce Sterling, published this in 1994, for Dog’s sakes:

en.wikipedia.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:08:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:09:18pm

wait until he finds out that Grant was actually one of the US Presidents!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:10:32pm

“BOOM BOOM”

WTF?

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:11:47pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:21:40pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:21:46pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am convinced that DT is a complete idiot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:23:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:23:57pm

re: #221 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

He had a green card. Just like my mom.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:24:32pm
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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:24:41pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s repeating all the Lost Cause myths.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:25:59pm

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not sure why that requires a “Holy Cow!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:26:50pm

Joe Biden was sort of in my neck of the woods today, stumping for Amy McGrath.

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Skip Intro  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:26:54pm

re: #247 Ace-o-aces

How many Trump supporters think the moon landing was faked? He’s going to confuse them.

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:28:41pm

Ye holy and jumping catfish, what freaking day…

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:29:04pm

Republicans and their “thoughts and prayers”:

WWE is planning another one of their Saudi propaganda shows, and one of their (old) stars and new mayor of Knoxville County, TN, is going and had this put out by his spokesman:

Glenn Jacobs, aka ‘Kane,’ still planning on Saudi Arabia trip amid questions about journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s fate

When asked for comment, Jacobs’ spokesman Rob Link said the mayor’s plans to wrestle at the event have not changed. “Mayor Jacobs won’t speculate on Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance,” Link said. “However, he and his family are in the mayor’s thoughts and prayers.”

How many WWE fans are just going to roll over again and accept this? Note that WWE’s shows are still the top ranked cable shows outside of sports special events, so there are still a few million people in this country who are into McMahon’s programming.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:29:14pm

re: #255 Skip Intro

How many Trump supporters think the moon landing was faked? He’s going to confuse them.

“BOOM! BOOM! See, Trump agrees with us. You can’t make sounds in space!”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:30:59pm

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wait until he finds out that Grant was actually one of the US Presidents!!!

Written over 80 years ago by British historian and armored warfare theorist J.F.C. Fuller Grant and Lee: A Study in Personality and Generalship

The author began his research sharing the generally held assumption that lee was a great general and Grant a clumsy ‘butcher.’ By the time Fuller completed his project, however, he regarded Grant as the greatest general of his age and one of the greatest strategists of any age. Grant and Lee is a compelling study not only of two remarkable men but also of the nature of leadership and command in wartime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:32:43pm

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:35:14pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:35:47pm

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Written over 80 years ago by British historian and armored warfare theorist J.F.C. Fuller Grant and Lee: A Study in Personality and Generalship

I wish to remind everyone that the Grant presidential library is at Mississippi State University.

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:36:08pm

“Thoughts and prayers” has to be the hallmark phrase of the America that decided to not care anymore and hide into fantasy.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:38:18pm

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Written over 80 years ago by British historian and armored warfare theorist J.F.C. Fuller Grant and Lee: A Study in Personality and Generalship

Ron Chernow’s biography of Grant comes to much the same conclusion. It’s not a hagiography by any means, either.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:40:02pm

But, teachers should have guns

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:40:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:41:25pm

hahahahaa

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:41:50pm

Sure, why not. I mean, what do we have to lose?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:43:18pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:46:12pm

re: #268 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sure, why not. I mean, what do we have to lose?

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One of my favorite sports media items was when Jose Canseco belittled the achievements of Greg Lemond “for just riding a bike” at about the same time in the season he got hit in the head misreading a routine fly ball to his outfield position. (A simple google check will probably find me wrong, but that’s how I remember it and he’s still a meathead.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:54:19pm

re: #221 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

So I am going to a bit tRumpian here.

1. Jamal Khashogg was a Saudi national.
2. As far as we know, he was tried in a (secret) Saudi Court of Law (////) and found
guilty of crimes against the State and sentenced to death.
3. He willfully entered into a Saudi diplomatic consulate (aka Sovereign territory).
4. Above sentence was carried out in accordance with Saudi Law.
5. Not our (United States) problem.
6. Let Turkey handle it if they have a problem because, see all the above.

It disgusts me that I have even posted the above hypothesis because it is, well disgusting. But it will not surprise me in the least if this isn’t the tact this administration takes. And if it happens to another journalist here in the U.S., in another Countries Embassy or Consulate the reaction will be the same. Yawn. It didn’t happen on “our” land

“Mere technical innocence should be no bar to the execution of a death sentence, properly arrived at.’

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:55:19pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:55:38pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

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Benedict Arnold was a great general. And we’d be speaking English now if not for him.//

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 6:58:02pm

re: #226 gocart mozart

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I never saw the unnecessary remake, but I can’t imagine how they replaced Ken Mars in that part….

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whitebeach  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:01:59pm

re: #223 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]Trump: “Robert E. Lee was a great general.”

Reality: Robert E. Lee was a traitor.

Lee was a traitor almost by definition.

But despite almost universal opinion in the South and among white supremacists, he was also a pretty sucky general.

Gettysburg, and especially the murderous and suicidal charge of Pickett and others on the final day, came very close to being something ordered by a madman. In the Overland Campaign of 1864, Grant turned Lee again and again like a kid playing with a top, and the end result was that Lee was besieged at Petersburg, the very thing he had tried all along to avoid. Even the notion that Grant achieved victory by the butcherlike sacrifice of his own superior numbers is myth. No general in the Civil War, on either side, had more of his men killed than Lee did.

IMHO, Lee is as overrated as MacArthur, if not more so.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:03:05pm

re: #256 William Lewis

Ye holy and jumping catfish, what freaking day…

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freetoken  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:03:29pm

re: #221 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

The Khashoggi family tree is full of people with whom I would not want to associate.

Yet, the murder victim was a resident of the US.

And the crime for which he was pushed out of the KSA was, among other things, being hard on Trump.

The KSA is led by a tyrannical regime. Even if we don’t really care about their victims, I propose that the US should not reward such tyrannies.

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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:11:21pm

Here is some Saudi propaganda

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:11:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:17:00pm

A jury in Michigan has convicted a man who fired a shotgun at a 14-year-old teenager who knocked on his door to ask for directions last April.

Prosecutors say when Brennan Walker missed his bus to school one morning, he decided to try and walk to his high school. But, at one point, Walker got lost, and he decided to stop by the Rochester Hills home of Jeffrey Ziegler, 53, to ask for directions. But, instead of giving the teenager directions, Ziegler fired a shotgun at the teen as he was running away, barely escaping injury.

Ziegler was found guilty by the jury Friday afternoon with attempt to murder and possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony.

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The judge revoked Zeigler’s bond and remanded him into custody after the jury found him guilty.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:17:04pm
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meteor  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:19:34pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:21:22pm
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gocart mozart  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:22:02pm

Dominic West Explains How The Wire Cured His Road Rage
British actor playing an Irish-American from Baltimore doing a fake British accent.

The Wire - McNulty’s Fake English Accent

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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:27:11pm

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Written over 80 years ago by British historian and armored warfare theorist J.F.C. Fuller Grant and Lee: A Study in Personality and Generalship

I write this from Virginia, not far from Lee Highway.

Yes, I agree. Grant was an amazing and effective General and military leader. I think that he is given far too little credit for his 1864 campaigns. Every other Union leader who had attempted that had failed. Some for military reasons, others for political reasons. Grant succeeded.

He had a lot of challenges pivoting to a political leader which required a very different mindset. I have no doubt that had he enough time he would have learned how to do that as well. However, starting as President didn’t allow him the time and space needed.

Lee, I think, was an a very good tactician and amazing organizational builder. It is harder to see him as an excellent strategist though.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:28:38pm
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:29:25pm

re: #250 Stanley Sea

He had a green card. Just like my mom.

My point. This administration doesn’t care. It only cares if it puts money into their accounts. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now invoking the Iron Fist Rule. Night Lizards. May The Deity Of Your Choice Smile Down Upon You. Sleep well.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:30:40pm

re: #285 ckkatz

Part of the Lost Cause was minimizing Grant’s accomplishments, which seems weird, because if your side is going to lose, you’d want your opponent to be an unequaled mastermind, otherwise, how bad were you?

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jaunte  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:30:42pm

Sounds familiar.

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Kragar  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:30:43pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:34:51pm

re: #285 ckkatz

I write this from Virginia, not far from Lee Highway.

Yes, I agree. Grant was an amazing and effective General and military leader. I think that he is given far too little credit for his 1864 campaigns. Every other Union leader who had attempted that had failed. Some for military reasons, others for political reasons. Grant succeeded.

He had a lot of challenges pivoting to a political leader which required a very different mindset. I have no doubt that had he enough time he would have learned how to do that as well. However, starting as President didn’t allow him the time and space needed.

Lee, I think, was an a very good tactician and amazing organizational builder. It is harder to see him as an excellent strategist though.

Before he was given command of the Army of Northern Virginia, Lee basically invented field fortification—“trench warfare” as it would become in WWI—and was much hated as “the King of Spades”. Cavaliers shouldn’t have to dig ditches, dontchaknow?

Anyway, that was pretty much the Confederate contribution to the art of war.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:34:53pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:35:52pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:36:05pm

re: #288 Belafon

Part of the Lost Cause was minimizing Grant’s accomplishments, which seems weird, because if your side is going to lose, you’d want your opponent to be an unequaled mastermind, otherwise, how bad were you?

Demonizing Sherman, too—an equally underrated leader.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:39:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:42:31pm

re: #292 teleskiguy

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A Mom Anon  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:49:34pm

re: #292 teleskiguy

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:50:30pm

re: #202 Charles Johnson

He is failing this test of Presidential leadership because deep in his bones, trump is a fucking coward.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:51:21pm

White woman in New York calls the cops on a 9 year old for bumping into her, claiming he sexually assaulted her: dailykos.com. There’s a video in there of her yelling at 911, and a tweet with the bodega’s security camera showing that she was wrong. By the time the police got there, everyone had left. When the news went to talk to her, she called the police on them as well.

Edited to add: There is some speculation that she is actually mentally not well, in that she needs to be looked after.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:53:42pm

Just finished the VR game Downward Spiral: Horus Station (Steam)

It was a little repetitive, but feeling like I was fighting my way through giant structures in a space station with a friend, while really alone in my living room, is pretty cool.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:54:20pm

re: #300 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Just finished the VR game Downward Spiral: Horus Station (Steam)

It was a little repetitive, but feeling like I was fighting my way through giant structures in a space station with a friend, while really alone in my living room, is pretty cool.

What do you have for playing that?

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:55:09pm

re: #294 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Demonizing Sherman, too—an equally underrated leader.

Sherman was a military genius. He was one of the first to understand that defeating your enemy on the field was not enough. You had to strike into his supply chain, his logistical movement of food, ammo, and replacements, to destroy his army. He didn’t just “march to the sea”.

He then turned north and tore the shit out of the Confederate armies in South and then North Carolina. He basically starved them to the point where they could no longer put up an effective fighting force.

It was one of the first, and later, most taught lessons in how to fight a “total war”, using your assets to deny your enemy of what he needs to fight. The Georgia campaign was brutal. The Carolina campaign was brilliant.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:56:44pm

re: #301 Belafon

What do you have for playing that?

I have an HTC Vive and an Oculus Rift. I mostly use the Rift because the controllers are much better.

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Belafon  Oct 12, 2018 • 7:57:13pm

re: #302 austin_blue

In a lot of ways, not just including metal ships, the US Civil War sounds like it was the first “modern” war.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:00:13pm

re: #302 austin_blue

Sherman was a military genius. He was one of the first to understand that defeating your enemy on the field was not enough. You had to strike into his supply chain, his logistical movement of food, ammo, and replacements, to destroy his army. He didn’t just “march to the sea”.

He then turned north and tore the shit out of the Confederate armies in South and then North Carolina. He basically starved them to the point where they could no longer put up an effective fighting force.

It was one of the first, and later, most taught lessons in how to fight a “total war”, using your assets to deny your enemy of what he needs to fight. The Georgia campaign was brutal. The Carolina campaign was brilliant.

All of Sherman’s “atrocities” they squeal about boil down to: He failed to respect private property!!

As I remember, Bomber Command in WWII started out talking about “respecting private property” but that soon fell by the wayside.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:01:52pm

Still in Lubbock, leaving Sunday. Sprint phone service is the stinkiest stench that ever stunk. It halfway works around the Metroplex, with data being spotty at best. Here in the Lub though the phone does not work at all on voice. It gives me a “no sim” notice as it refuses to dial the call. Strangely, data works better than it ever has anywhere. Text also works. I’ll go to one of their stores in the morning on the off chance that they have a solution. If not I will buy a flip phone at Target or somewhere so I won’t be out of touch going home. Then Sprint can shove it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:02:53pm

Colorized Matthew Brady photo of William Tecumseh Sherman in May 1865. The black ribbon on his arm signifies mourning for recently slain Abraham Lincoln.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:03:46pm

FINALLY getting rain here in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles. Also have a bit of hail striking my windows as a special guest…

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:04:53pm

re: #242 austin_blue

No Climate Change in fiction? My Pope Emperor of the Viridian Design Movement, and friend, Bruce Sterling, published this in 1994, for Dog’s sakes:

en.wikipedia.org

I read A Friend Of The Earth by TC Boyle about a hundred years ago or so.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:05:41pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

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Colorized Matthew Brady photo of William Tecumseh Sherman in May 1865. The black ribbon on his arm signifies mourning for recently slain Abraham Lincoln.

These are the kind of heroes we need. Remember his brother, Senator John Sherman, was responsible for the Sherman Anti-Trust Act. But parties stay the same forever!

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ckkatz  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:10:01pm

re: #256 William Lewis

re: #256 William Lewis

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:10:34pm

re: #289 jaunte

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:11:16pm

So Trump was praising Robert E Lee, in Grant’s home state, a Union state, many of whose sons died because of that traitorous motherfucker.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:12:20pm

re: #256 William Lewis

Hoping everything will work out OK!
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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:12:21pm

re: #313 Blind Frog Belly White

So Trump was praising Robert E Lee, in Grant’s home state, a Union state, many of whose sons died because of that traitorous motherfucker.

Quintessentially Trumpian.

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teleskiguy  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:12:55pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:13:36pm

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plansbandc  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:14:40pm

re: #295 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Traitor admiring a traitor. Wannabe dictator admiring dictators. And he’s a psychopath too. This is not going to end well at all.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:14:49pm

re: #316 teleskiguy

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William Lewis  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:22:12pm

re: #311 ckkatz

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lawhawk  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:23:29pm

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s been a long absence and a lot longer than I wished it be. It was supposed to be a vacation, but things went sour and the vacation was not meant to be.

I know that this may be cryptic to some of you, but you’ll have to understand how I do value my privacy and don’t like sharing personal details. At same time I do consider many of you friends - some of you going back a decade or more.

I lost someone quite close to me. It was a gut punch and a surprise. They went out with a smile on their face, so I know that they did have a good time before they passed and that they were thinking of good times. That’ll help comfort, but it hurts every time I think about it.

Not sure how much time I’ll be able to post in the near future, but wanted to let y’all know I’m still alive and kicking.

And the thing is that this somewhat forced separation from social media has helped sharpen my focus on what is important in life, and what needs to be done. I just wish the cost wasn’t so goddamned high.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:32:01pm

re: #190 GlutenFreeJesus

Everyone of the previous presidents, AKAIK, accepted that one of their roles as POTUS was to be somewhat of a father figure. Some were better at it than others, but they understood they had to show concern for survivors of natural disasters, and for dog’s sake show some humanity, despite the pressures and prestige of their job. Carter, Clinton, Ford, HW, W and Obama were also loving fathers of their own children. Reagan only partly so, and I don’t remember much about Nixon’s relations with his kids.They all at least did not grope their daughters on national TV.

Trump, by contrast, has no humanity, no human feelings, and his relationship with his kids is damaged. So it’s understandable that he feels no connection with or responsibility to the American public. Half of Florida could have been wiped off the face of the Earth, and he’d go to one of his rallies and tell the rest of the USA that everything was fine, we’re doing a great job there.

Likewise, he doesn’t give a shit about Khashoggi.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:42:33pm

re: #304 Belafon

In a lot of ways, not just including metal ships, the US Civil War sounds like it was the first “modern” war.

Yes and no.

It was often a war of movement and siege, but it was most mostly about set pieces where large armies were brought forward to strike directly at each other. The losers would fall back and suck their wounds, the winners would resupply.

What Sherman did in the Carolina campaigns was different. He used movement, but not to bring his armies into a position where a set piece would occur. He kept flanking the Confederates, again and again on the move north, destroying their food and ammo depots. His Army ate off the the land and just. didn’t. stop moving. He was relentless, taking divisions out to of the line to rest and throwing the rest of his forces forward, flanking, flanking, flanking again. His army moved 425 miles in 50 days, along three axes of motion.

It had never been done, and the Rebels had no way to stop it. When they finally met in Bentonville, the Rebels were pretty much done. They were routed, straggled first to the north and then west, and surrendered what was left at Durham Station on April 26th.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:46:41pm

re: #323 austin_blue

Yes and no.

It was often a war of movement and siege, but it was most mostly about set pieces where large armies were brought forward to strike directly at each other. The losers would fall back and suck their wounds, the winners would resupply.

What Sherman did in the Carolina campaigns was different. He used movement, but not to bring his armies into a position where a set piece would occur. He kept flanking the Confederates, again and again on the move north, destroying their food and ammo depots. His Army ate off the the land and just. didn’t. stop moving. He was relentless, taking divisions out to of the line to rest and throwing the rest of his forces forward, flanking, flanking, flanking again. His army moved 425 miles in 50 days, along three axes of motion.

It had never been done, and the Rebels had no way to stop it. When they finally met in Bentonville, the Rebels were pretty much done. They were routed, straggled first to the north and then west, and surrendered what was left at Durham Station on April 26th.

Earlier he had faced the champion retreater of all time in Joe Johnston, so he had to learn how to bust ‘em up. The Rebels didn’t have the terrain advantages in Georgia and the Carolinas that Johnston depended on.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:48:02pm

re: #321 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It’s been a long absence and a lot longer than I wished it be. It was supposed to be a vacation, but things went sour and the vacation was not meant to be.

I know that this may be cryptic to some of you, but you’ll have to understand how I do value my privacy and don’t like sharing personal details. At same time I do consider many of you friends - some of you going back a decade or more.

I lost someone quite close to me. It was a gut punch and a surprise. They went out with a smile on their face, so I know that they did have a good time before they passed and that they were thinking of good times. That’ll help comfort, but it hurts every time I think about it.

Not sure how much time I’ll be able to post in the near future, but wanted to let y’all know I’m still alive and kicking.

And the thing is that this somewhat forced separation from social media has helped sharpen my focus on what is important in life, and what needs to be done. I just wish the cost wasn’t so goddamned high.

Damn Lawhawk, if you need a shoulder, Private us. We’ve got your six.

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austin_blue  Oct 12, 2018 • 8:52:26pm

re: #324 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Earlier he had faced the champion retreater of all time in Joe Johnston, so he had to learn how to bust ‘em up. The Rebels didn’t have the terrain advantages in Georgia and the Carolinas that Johnston depended on.

Johnston was on Sherman’s west flank during the Carolina campaign. He just couldn’t keep up. And when he finally engaged at Bentonville, he was down to nothing as a fighting force and was swept from the field.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 13, 2018 • 10:43:49am

re: #321 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Oct 13, 2018 • 11:53:24am

re: #327 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

re: #327 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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