The Wildest Version of “Stacy’s Mom” You’ve Ever Heard: Vintage 1930s Hot Jazz Fountains of Wayne Cover, Ft. Casey Abrams

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316 comments
1
Belafon  Oct 16, 2018 • 9:23:02pm

LOL

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teleskiguy  Oct 16, 2018 • 9:33:18pm

This is better than the original.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2018 • 9:49:39pm

Reposting from downstairs, link to twitter video at original

re: #227 BigPapa

That really needs a citation - when it occurred, where it occurred.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2018 • 9:53:17pm

The problem with an undated and unsource video is that it can be taken totally out of context.

Now if the meaning of the small clip really is what it appears on the face, then that video really should be spread wide.

But it could also be sarcasm, a skit, etc.

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2018 • 9:55:52pm
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freetoken  Oct 16, 2018 • 9:59:51pm

As usual it’s an reigniting of an old video, from 2016:

Iowa Caucus: Trump Supporter “Heil Trump”

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freetoken  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:02:00pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:24:17pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:43:25pm

The Blues Brothers - Jake’s Excuses

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TedStriker  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:46:15pm

re: #8 Ace-o-aces

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:53:43pm

re: #8 Ace-o-aces

…..Hey, remember when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was going to be the next Hitler?

12:23 AM - Oct 17, 2018

Mahmoud may not be a good person — but his English Twitter feed is far more thoughtful and intelligent than that provided by our President.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:53:57pm
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 16, 2018 • 10:54:37pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 16, 2018 • 11:15:35pm

It would not be objectionable if Trump had simply said that we should not rush to judgement until we had investigated the Khashoggi disappearance more thoroughly; that we should wait until we had sufficient facts. Instead he disgraces the office with his outrageous lack of concern about the possible execution of a journalist by the Saudi government, his support for the Saudi denials, and his continuing interest only in his personal financial well being. If the Turkish story holds up, let’s see if the Congress folds or if it actually does the right thing.

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SteelPH  Oct 16, 2018 • 11:38:02pm

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

It would not be objectionable if Trump had simply said that we should not rush to judgement until we had investigated the Khashoggi disappearance more thoroughly; that we should wait until we had sufficient facts. Instead he disgraces the office with his outrageous lack of concern about the possible execution of a journalist by the Saudi government, his support for the Saudi denials, and his continuing interest only in his personal financial well being. If the Turkish story holds up, let’s see if the Congress folds or if it actually does the right thing.

The man labeled the press “the enemy of the people.” He is perfectly fine with journalists being murdered.

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teleskiguy  Oct 16, 2018 • 11:45:44pm

No one won MegaMillions. Jackpot is $868 million.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 16, 2018 • 11:46:01pm

re: #15 SteelPH

The man labeled the press “the enemy of the people.” He is perfectly fine with journalists being murdered.

Especially if they are annoying his business partners (which he denies having).

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teleskiguy  Oct 16, 2018 • 11:53:25pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:07:41am

re: #15 SteelPH

The man labeled the press “the enemy of the people.” He is perfectly fine with journalists being murdered.

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:20:23am

re: #16 teleskiguy

No one won MegaMillions. Jackpot is $868 million.

It’s almost getting to the point where we can call it real money.

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:24:49am

The combined jackpots of MegaMillions and PowerBall is over $1.2B. If no one wins PowerBall on Wednesday then that pot will start leaping by larger amounts too.

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Chrysicat  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:28:54am

Inspired by what I saw midway down the previous thread:

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 1:03:21am
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freetoken  Oct 17, 2018 • 1:31:42am

Oh look, scientists (the AGU) trying once again to hide the truth of the alien base in Antarctica by claiming the base’s noises are caused just by wind blowing over snow:

This is what an Antarctic Ice Shelf sounds like

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freetoken  Oct 17, 2018 • 1:36:45am

A Brit who’s clueless about how witless so many American voters are:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 1:48:27am

Another victory:

Federal judge denies delay in Obama-era law helping students defrauded by for-profit colleges (NBC, more at the link).

Students defrauded by for-profits colleges will more easily be able to get their loans forgiven, thanks to a decision Tuesday by a federal judge who denied a delay the Trump administration wanted.

“It has been a long road both for our clients and for student loan borrowers around the country,” said Julie Murray, attorney for Public Citizen, one of the groups representing defrauded students in the lawsuit.

The legislation, titled the William D. Ford Federal Direct Loan Program or “2016 Rule,” was first blocked by Department of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos in April 2017, weeks before it was set to go into law.

Betsy DeVos says the Education Department will no longer seek delay of the law.

apnews.com

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Chrysicat  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:00:44am
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Chrysicat  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:08:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:14:42am

Zing… .

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:31:57am

Heidi Heitkamp committed an egregious error in a newspaper advert attacking her opponent on being insensitive to victims of sexual assaults.

US senator apologies for revealing names of ‘sex crime victims’ (BBC, more at the link):

A Democratic US senator facing a tough re-election bid has apologised for disclosing the names of survivors of sex crimes in a campaign advert.

The womens’ names were among 125 featured in an “open letter” Sunday newspaper advert for North Dakota Senator Heidi Heitkamp.

Some women whose names appeared on the advert have said that they never gave permission for their names to be used.

Mrs Heitkamp has admitted the mistake and pledged not to let it happen again.

In a statement on Tuesday, Mrs Heitkamp said that the mistake occurred when “our campaign worked with victim advocates to identify women who would be willing sign the letter or share their story”.

“We recently discovered that several of the women’s names who were provided to us did not authorise their names to be shared or were not survivors of abuse.”

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:35:12am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:43:08am

Jason Stanley is professor of Philosophy at Yale University and has spent the better part of a decade studying fascism and fascist propaganda. Together with Adam Westbrook and Japhet Weeks, he produced a short video for the New York Times, suitable for sharing, that delivers a simple, direct and powerful warning about what this country is undergoing under Donald Trump.

He notes in the video his grandparents were survivors of the Holocaust.

In a New York Times video opinion, he notes the rise of fascism in several countries, including our own. (If You’re Not Scared About Fascism in the U.S., You Should Be, 5:02)

If You’re Not Scared About Fascism in the U.S., You Should Be

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 2:54:44am

Truth.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:00:21am

Speaking of fascism, going after political opponents is another sign of it:

FBI raids San Juan city offices weeks after Trump alleges corruption (MSN, 17 hours ago)

FBI agents raided San Juan’s municipal building on Tuesday amid an investigation into purchasing practices conducted by city officials, including Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz.

Video posted on Twitter shows several uniformed FBI agents proceeding into the building Tuesday morning. Local journalist Luis Guardiola noted in a tweet that “dozens” of FBI agents were involved in the raid.

(more)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:01:29am

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹

Speaking of fascism, going after political opponents is another sign of it:

FBI raids San Juan city offices weeks after Trump alleges corruption (MSN, 17 hours ago)

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Funny, I thought the FBI was the corrupt organization…

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:04:08am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Funny, I thought the FBI was the corrupt organization…

“The raid helps us to confirm whether the allegations of irregularities are substantiated or not,” FBI spokesman Carlos Osario told the website.

“We are filling out a search warrant, looking for documents and evidence that can support the allegation [of favoritism],” he added.

Gee, I thought you needed evidence of that sort of thing before you conducted raids, not the say-so of Donald Trump.

Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz says the municipal offices are cooperating with the FBI (like she could oppose a bunch of people with guns).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:08:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:12:33am

bbc.com

A Chinese man who allegedly faked his own death for an insurance payout has surrendered to police after his wife killed herself and their two children.

The 34-year-old was presumed dead after his car was found in a river, though his body was never recovered.

He did not tell his wife about his alleged plan and she believed he had died.

She later jumped into a pond with their children after writing an online suicide note.

The man, who police said was surnamed He, surrendered himself to police in Xinhua county in Hunan province last Friday.

He has been detained on charges of insurance fraud and intentional damage to property, Xinhua police said in a statement on WeChat - a social media platform.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:18:33am

thetimes.co.uk

New York is celebrating the first weekend in decades in which no one was murdered or shot in the city.

For three days, from Friday to Sunday, New Yorkers generated no new business for NYPD homicide squads.

“Friday, Saturday and Sunday there was not a single shooting in all of New York City,” Bill de Blasio, the mayor, told a graduating class from the city’s police academy. “Isn’t that amazing?”

(more)

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:27:34am

re: #15 SteelPH

Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding.
He wishes he could get rid of entire media outlets like his authoritarian buddies in other countries do.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:28:42am

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

And all without that awful and discriminatory “stop and frisk” policy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:45:53am

I’m not a big fan of Megyn Kelly, but she did an interview on a woman who found out her mother was “passing.”

She’d done genealogical research, and found her mother was listed as “colored” by the state of Louisiana.

She explains as she confronted her mother some of the explanations her mother gave (such as wearing foundation to bed because you’ll never know if you need an ambulance in the middle of the night and you have to look your best).

Meet The Woman Who Learned That Her Mother Passed As White | Megyn Kelly TODAY

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:47:29am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

For all of her colossal faults, her interview with Alex Jones was pretty fuckin’ spot on if you ask me. She exposed that creep real good.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:48:41am

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

If you can pass for White, you’re probably White. I’m not overly fond of the one drop rule.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 3:50:58am

re: #44 Patricia Kayden

If you can pass for White, you’re probably White. I’m not overly fond of the one drop rule.

The second half of the interview they bring on two of her family members she did not know, because her mother hid her whole family.

Woman Whose Mother Passed As White Introduces Her Mixed-Race Family Members | Megyn Kelly TODAY

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:04:27am

One more, then I’m out to bed.

Czech Priest Afraid of Homosexual Overlords (Utah Outcasts, explicit language, 11:32)

Teh Geyhs will ship everyone off to concentration camps, &c.

Youtube Video

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:06:36am

Fixed YouTube link above.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:27:59am
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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:33:36am

He’s tongue-bathing himself this morning.

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jeffreyw  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:40:34am

Imgur


Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:41:14am

re: #49 teleskiguy

He’s tongue-bathing himself this morning.

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Honesty? Yeah he’s been soooo honest and kept so many promises. Guy just lives in a bubble where he’s spoon fed crap like that.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:45:17am
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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:54:40am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 4:58:57am

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

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He doesn’t need to. This literally got Emmett Till murderered 60 years ago. And he’s old enough to understand that.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:00:19am

re: #53 teleskiguy

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Yet you called Cruz a liar and suggested his father killed JFK. Your words not Beto and better a flake than a flaccid fraud.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:02:32am

Hey, his record of endorsements is rather dismal. It’s been a “kiss of death” in a lot of races. So let’s hope…

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:03:12am

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

It would not be objectionable if Trump had simply said that we should not rush to judgement until we had investigated the Khashoggi disappearance more thoroughly; that we should wait until we had sufficient facts. Instead he disgraces the office with his outrageous lack of concern about the possible execution of a journalist by the Saudi government, his support for the Saudi denials, and his continuing interest only in his personal financial well being. If the Turkish story holds up, let’s see if the Congress folds or if it actually does the right thing.

the first bold is all that matters to him. ever did, ever will. he’ll be happy and basically do nothing as long as he can use the government to funnel money into his pockets.

the second is congress’ version of ‘the pivot’
it’s just lucy and the football.
the most recent in a long string of “is this the last straw?”
it aint

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:04:33am

re: #20 freetoken

It’s almost getting to the point where we can call it real money.

gigamillions?
megabillions?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:04:41am

FOX News weighing in on Stephen Hawking’s latest book.

foxnews.com

They report his claims and assertions correctly in the book, but oh boy, the derp in the comments.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:12:10am

re: #53 teleskiguy

I got dinged by a QAnon weirdo!

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:12:37am
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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:13:31am

re: #49 teleskiguy

He’s tongue-bathing himself this morning.
“Trump could be the most honest president in modern history. When you look at the real barometer of presidential truthfulness, which is promise keeping, he is probably the most honest president in American history. He’s done exactly what he said he would do.” Marc Thiessen, WPost

i’ll stick with the ‘real barometer’ of whether something he said is true or false

(p.s. - where da wall? mexico paid up yet?)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:21:19am

re: #62 dangerman

i’ll stick with the ‘real barometer’ of whether something he said is true or false

(p.s. - where da wall? mexico paid up yet?)

And where’s the winning? Where are the factories and coal mines? Theissen lives in a right wing bubble.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:36:35am

No sources. No context. Just another Stonekettle *Jenkins* moment.

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teleskiguy  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:44:10am

More tongue-bathing.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:49:27am

re: #65 teleskiguy

More tongue-bathing.

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Maybe because the Stock Market isn’t as important as you condoning a foreign power killing a US resident. But yeah keep on watching Fox and Friends sucks off Trump. And they don’t do it because they like you, they’d be doing it for any Republican President.

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Weaselone  Oct 17, 2018 • 5:49:46am

re: #65 teleskiguy

That’s probably because it’s a rally after some recent declines and still puts us back to about where we were at the end of August.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:06:42am
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steve_davis  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:07:05am

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

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in fairness, i don’t think the lady was racist, just crazy.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:17:19am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:19:55am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:37:12am

re: #70 Belafon

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Need to hit this hard. You’ve worked your ass off for Social Security and Medicare, now Mitch wants to take it away. Make Mitch the same target that Pelosi is.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:40:55am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Need to hit this hard. You’ve worked your ass off for Social Security and Medicare, now Mitch wants to take it away. Make Mitch the same target that Pelosi is.

Indeed, I’d be running ads showing Mitch talking about that. Use his own words against him.

Of course, on the other hand, I don’t think America’s ever had so large a percentage of the overall electorate gleefully willing to douse themselves in gasoline and immolate themselves to “own the libs”.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:42:07am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Indeed, I’d be running ads showing Mitch talking about that. Use his own words against him.

Of course, on the other hand, I don’t think America’s ever had so large a percentage of the overall electorate gleefully willing to douse themselves in gasoline and immolate themselves to “own the libs”.

Yeah. Couldn’t hurt tho. Let the elderly FNC voters that Mitch doesn’t give a fuck about them.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:43:55am

re: #48 teleskiguy

The soundtracks for Singles and Last Action Hero are both very good genre compilations, and especialy in the case of the latter, much better than their associated movies.

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Weaselone  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:45:30am

re: #73 Dr Lizardo

Of course, on the other hand, I don’t think America’s ever had so large a percentage of the overall electorate gleefully willing to douse themselves in gasoline and immolate themselves to “own the libs”.

If they actually did this, they wouldn’t be as much of a threat. They insist on dousing everyone else in gasoline as well.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:46:40am

Morning!

I hope today goes better than yesterday. I wasted half the day trying to work with my client who lives in Australia now, but his company shop is still here in the Columbus area.

He’s has been having issues using his Quickbooks software on his server by connecting from Australia. We got that fixed for him by installing a new Cisco firewall and a nice clean VPN connection.

He is still having an issue with a Quickbooks plug-in for credit card processing and I tried to help him get that fixed up yesterday. I drove out to their shop, waited for another guy that works with Elavon who ran way late. Then I couldn’t log into Quickbooks. I had done so before to check connectivity. Now nothing. The whole meeting was a waste of time.

Last night I get a call from Australia “Yeah, sorry, I had to change the password every 90 days and did and forgot to tell you.”

Grrrr.

So, anyway, try #2 a bit later.

Are we past the Elizabeth Warren saga yet???

Or, are we going to blow this election she is not even directly involved in due to everyone losing their shit over what to me amounts to nothing.

And Trump thinks he scored big on turning that around. Fuck that.

I was doing really well on my positivity for this mid-terms up until this BS. Now reality of why Democrats do stupid shit is upon me…again.

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lizardofid  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:51:06am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Yeah. Couldn’t hurt tho. Let the elderly FNC voters that Mitch doesn’t give a fuck about them.

I wonder, would FNC accept a political ad calling Mitch out on this? If not, would they be breaking any laws? Sure, it might be buried in the usual stream of conseraderp, but I would liken it to slipping my dogs worm medicine to him in a ball of peanut butter and bread,

Oh, good morning everyone.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:53:58am

re: #77 ObserverArt

Well, you are the first person to mention her in this thread.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 6:55:01am

re: #78 lizardofid

I wonder, would FNC accept a political ad calling Mitch out on this? If not, would they be breaking any laws? Sure, it might be buried in the usual stream of conseraderp, but I would liken it to slipping my dogs worm medicine to him in a ball of peanut butter and bread,

Oh, good morning everyone.

Come to find out, they have to accept ads from candidates in the local area. They can block ads from third party if candidates make a case that there’s an error in the ads.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:13:25am
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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:23:42am

re: #81 Patricia Kayden

I’m sure Trump would hate for House Democrats to be able to get Mueller’s material.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:26:17am
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wheat-dogg  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:29:39am

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

When I tweeted that the 15 minute meeting was just long enough to exchange cash for intel, I wasn’t joking. Timur Kuran suggested there was a three-way fix in place among the Saudis, the USA and the Turks, to sweep this all under the rug and carry on as if nothing happened.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:40:50am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Need to hit this hard. You’ve worked your ass off for Social Security and Medicare, now Mitch wants to take it away. Make Mitch the same target that Pelosi is.

i agree though as i said yesterday, let’s not be euphemistic.
forget:

- worked your ass off
- earned
- entitled to

the word is paid for

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:41:48am

A tweet for everything.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:42:55am

Anything Fountains of Wayne gets an upding. And, that was awesome.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:42:57am

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

Trump could be. And America could be great. And I could be Tony Stark.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:47:52am

re: #16 teleskiguy

No one won MegaMillions. Jackpot is $868 million.

When Mrs. Lapin speaks of buying a ticket when the jackpot get over $500 million and I say it’s a tax on people who can’t do math, she always responds that she won’t share and how sad that is.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:50:04am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:52:10am

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

Last night we celebrated Zedushka’s 70th birthday. He wanted a big affair in New York with as many grandchildren as lived within driving distance. It was a beautiful party full of life and enjoyment although there was a solemn moment as we remembered Grandpa who passed away 100 years ago from the Spanish Flu & sipped a glass of wine/vodka/seltzer/soda in his honor.

A good time was had by all, except for Grandpa.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:52:33am

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

I have an image of Central American families driving in Dodge Grand Caravans toward the border, with the kids in the back pestering the parents, “Are we there yet? I have to pee!”

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:53:58am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:55:16am

re: #89 Colère Tueur de Lapin

When Mrs. Lapin speaks of buying a ticket when the jackpot get over $500 million and I say it’s a tax on people who can’t do math, she always responds that she won’t share and how sad that is.

My co-workers always share a group of tickets when the pot gets so high, and I feel like I have to participate in Bad Math Lesson just in case I get left out.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 7:58:32am
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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:00:17am

re: #94 jaunte

My co-workers always share a group of tickets when the pot gets so high

Speaking of which…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:06:28am

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

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Protection from what? Families of people fleeing poverty, violence, & starvation. Yeah so terrible. You’re a disgrace. Resign.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:06:44am

The opening of the latest Pod Save America told me what state I live in, and when our voter registration ends. I’m sure they used some kind of ad targeting software to do it, but having the podcast talk directly to me, felt like late-onset schizophrenia.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:07:58am

More documentation that the Trumps are a crime family, their fortune based on fraud.

“…Patterns of deceptive practices occurred in a dozen deals across the globe, as the business expanded into international projects, and the Trumps often participated. One common pattern, visible in more than half of those transactions, was a tendency to misstate key sales numbers.

In interviews and press conferences, Ivanka Trump gave false sales figures for projects in Mexico’s Baja California; Panama City, Panama; Toronto and New York’s SoHo neighborhood. These statements weren’t just the legendary Trump hype; they misled potential buyers about the viability of the developments.

Another pattern: Donald Trump repeatedly misled buyers about the amount (or existence) of his ownership in projects in Tampa, Florida; Panama; Baja and elsewhere. For a tower planned in Tampa, for example, Trump told a local paper in 2005 that his ownership would be less than 50 percent: “But it’s a substantial stake. I recently said I’d like to increase my stake but when they’re selling that well they don’t let you do that.” In reality, Trump had no ownership stake in the project.

The Trumps often made money even when projects failed. And when they tanked, the Trumps simply ignored their prior claims of close involvement, denied any responsibility and walked away.” blockquote>

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:10:08am

re: #99 jaunte

More documentation that the Trumps are a crime family, their fortune based on fraud.

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Ivanka is her father’s daughter for sure.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:12:08am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Trump Ocean Club Panama:

His daughter Ivanka briefly boasted that she had personally sold 40 units. (A broker on the project said he couldn’t remember her selling even one.) Meanwhile, Ivanka told a journalist at the time that “over 90 percent” of the Panama units had sold — and at prices five times as high as comparable buildings. Both statements were untrue.

She’s working on being as big a liar as he is.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:13:29am

re: #101 jaunte

Trump Ocean Club Panama:

She’s working on being as big a liar as he is.

She’s a bs artist. I’m really hoping by the time her Dad is done. No one will want anything to do with her or her family. And the Trumps will end up in jail.

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Teukka  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:14:11am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:18:30am

Foreign election-disrupters targeting U.S. veterans:

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:19:36am

re: #104 jaunte

Foreign election-disrupters targeting U.S. veterans:

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Maybe if they focused on this instead of outsourcing fact checking to the Weekly Standard.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:21:56am

re: #105 HappyWarrior

He was seeking last year to gauge the popularity of the Facebook page for his employer, Vietnam Veterans of America. The first listing was an impostor account called “Vietnam Vets of America” that had stolen his group’s logo and had more than twice as many followers.

Mr. Goldsmith, a 33-year-old Army veteran, sent Facebook what he thought was a straightforward request to take down the bogus page. At first, Facebook told him to try to work it out with the authors of the fake page, whom he was never able to track down. Then, after two months, Facebook deleted it.

This is such rank bullshit.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:23:08am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

She’s a bs artist. I’m really hoping by the time her Dad is done. No one will want anything to do with her or her family. And the Trumps will end up in jail.

But, but Jarvanka 2024 for round two of the tRump dynasty.

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danarchy  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:24:47am

re: #93 makeitstop

New Eminem. Holy shit.

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Video

Ain’t nobody better. Still.

That album cover is awfully reminiscent of the Beastie Boys “Licensed to Ill” album cover. I wonder if that was intentional.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:25:22am

Researchers have identified veterans as a particular target of disinformation campaigns. A study from the University of Oxford in October 2017 found accounts tied to the Kremlin were targeting veterans and active military personnel on Facebook and Twitter with divisive political propaganda, likely because of their status as “influential voters and community leaders.”
………
After his initial discovery of the fake Vietnam veterans account on Facebook in August 2017, Mr. Goldsmith began noticing other Facebook pages that had no original content, that appealed to veterans, and that shared divisive memes, like one about African-Americans vandalizing veteran memorials. He logged examples of multiple pages sharing the same image and message—minutes apart.

We’re at war with the Putin gang, and they’re inside the house.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:29:27am

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

One more, then I’m out to bed.

Czech Priest Afraid of Homosexual Overlords (Utah Outcasts, explicit language, 11:32)

Teh Geyhs will ship everyone off to concentration camps, &c.

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That ass should be forced to read the Pennsylvania Grand Jury report documenting priest pedophila!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:31:15am

re: #108 danarchy

That album cover is awfully reminiscent of the Beastie Boys “Licensed to Ill” album cover. I wonder if that was intentional.

Given Em came of age in the 80’s, I wouldn’t be surprised.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:31:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:32:19am

re: #106 jaunte

This is such rank bullshit.

I use FB to stay in touch with relatives and friends and to try to do genealogy stuff but man I hate how it’s run so much.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:33:19am

re: #112 jaunte

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Hellboy approved :). I enjoy Perlman’s insights. And agree. Beto would be great.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:33:34am

re: #107 Colère Tueur de Lapin

But, but Jarvanka 2024 for round two of the tRump dynasty.

Agh.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:34:09am

re: #108 danarchy

That album cover is awfully reminiscent of the Beastie Boys “Licensed to Ill” album cover. I wonder if that was intentional.

Absolutely. That’s the first thought I had, too.

Gotta be intentional.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:35:07am
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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:39:13am

Facebook weirdness - I got two notifications that my videos are partially muted because they include music from Warner Music Group.

I haven’t posted any videos on Facebook in well over a year. Is this the scam du jour?

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:42:32am

Another slice of Putin’s full-spectrum information war against the West and his next-door neighbors.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:50:50am
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plansbandc  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:53:32am

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

I think it’s past time to fine the hell out of people for doing this. Someone is going to get killed.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:53:42am

re: #120 DodgerFan1988

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Can’t watch since I’m at work but what are their divisions over?

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:54:04am

Follow the money

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:54:07am

re: #121 plansbandc

I think it’s past time to fine the hell out of people for doing this. Someone is going to get killed.

Exactly. Shit ain’t right.

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Belafon  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:56:20am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Can’t watch since I’m at work but what are their divisions over?

It’s not their divisions. It’s the US divide between whites who don’t want to have to be treated as equal to the rest of the country and the rest of us they are taking advantage of.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:56:21am

Holy fucking fuck. What immoral hell has Trump led us to?

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:57:22am

re: #126 makeitstop

Holy fucking fuck. What immoral hell has Trump led us to?

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Money. Always money.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:58:35am

re: #125 Belafon

It’s not their divisions. It’s the US divide between whites who don’t want to have to be treated as equal to the rest of the country and the rest of us they are taking advantage of.

Ohhh ok. Misread. GD I hate that we’re still having to do this but it’s a fight that must be had.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:59:20am

re: #127 Scottish Dragon

Money. Always money.

I’m biting my tongue hard here.

What I wish for Trump and all of his enablers would earn me a visit from law enforcement.

He’s a fucking monster.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:59:23am

re: #127 Scottish Dragon

Money. Always money.

My grandfather always told us it’s all about green. And that’s the case with Trump.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 8:59:36am
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The Vicious Babushka  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:00:27am
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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:00:43am

re: #126 makeitstop

Holy fucking fuck. What immoral hell has Trump led us to?

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How much of this is Trump’s “leadership” and how much is just a result of our decades long alliance with “our friends the Saudis.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:02:00am

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

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For good reason too. Your community knows the consequences of what men like Trump do.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:02:50am

re: #133 KGxvi

How much of this is Trump’s “leadership” and how much is just a result of our decades long alliance with “our friends the Saudis.”

The Saudis would not have done this with Obama. This is Trump specific. They know he hates the press and they are bankrolling him and his condos. This is corruption on a scale not seen since the 1890s.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:02:51am

re: #133 KGxvi

How much of this is Trump’s “leadership” and how much is just a result of our decades long alliance with “our friends the Saudis.”

Hard to say but I think they’ve definitely been emboldened by Trump since human rights isn’t a priority of this administration.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:04:45am

re: #133 KGxvi

How much of this is Trump’s “leadership” and how much is just a result of our decades long alliance with “our friends the Saudis.”

Is there really a difference?

We have virtually no diplomatic presence in KSA. Money has changed hands ($100 million delivered as Pompeo landed yesterday). Trump has proclaimed the pres the ‘enemy of the people.’

Add it all up and you’ve got a dead journalist, murdered in the most horrific manner imaginable, and nobody in the US government gives a flying fuck.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:05:46am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:06:37am
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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:07:09am

re: #132 The Vicious Babushka

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Sssssssoros!

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:13:12am

In keeping with Mitch’s statement that entitlements need to be cut, I’m curious…has there ever been a study as to use of gov’t resources by socioeconomic class? By “use” I mean any type of governmental benefit, whether a direct payment (i.e. unemployment benefits) or more indirect (i.e. using the interstate). My sense is that the rich use far more gov’t resources…whether it’s tax cuts; the ability to game the IRS code beyond straight tax cuts; the use of highways, airports, etc.

Does anyone know if there’s been a study examining that or if it’s even possible to design a study to track that information?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:15:17am

re: #140 Mike Lamb

Sssssssoros!

Conservatives really don’t see how using him as a boogeyman would bother a group who knows scapegoating.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:16:54am

re: #139 jaunte

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And the government will function even more poorly and people will blame it and the GOP will say that government is the problem and….

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:17:38am

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

GOOD MORNING LIZARDIA!

Last night we celebrated Zedushka’s 70th birthday. He wanted a big affair in New York with as many grandchildren as lived within driving distance. It was a beautiful party full of life and enjoyment although there was a solemn moment as we remembered Grandpa who passed away 100 years ago from the Spanish Flu & sipped a glass of wine/vodka/seltzer/soda in his honor.

A good time was had by all, except for Grandpa.

are you sure?

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:20:04am

Weird stuff going on in Last Frontier:

Alaska’s lieutenant governor resigned abruptly Tuesday over what he said were “inappropriate comments” — which he and other officials have done little to further explain — providing an unexpected ripple in his boss’s re-election campaign just three weeks before voters go to the polls.

Byron Mallott, in a letter to Gov. Bill Walker, said it is “a resignation compelled by inappropriate comments I made that placed a person whom I respect and revere in a position of vulnerability.”

“I take full responsibility for this action and apologize to, and seek healing for, the person I hurt,” the letter, obtained by CNN affiliate KTUU, reads.

Mallott is still on the ballot (Alaska apparently has joint tickets for governor and lieutenant governor), but says if they win he won’t serve. Instead, Valerie Nurr’araaluk Davidson, who was sworn into the office today would serve the term, apparently. Nobody is saying what he said, but apparently it was bad enough to warrant an immediate resignation, less than a month before the election.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:21:18am

re: #99 jaunte

More documentation that the Trumps are a crime family, their fortune based on fraud.

One common pattern, visible in more than half of those transactions, was a tendency to misstate key sales numbers.

claim: “the tax cuts will pay for themselves”
fact: it took less than 10 months for the deficit to explode

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:24:35am

re: #141 Mike Lamb

In keeping with Mitch’s statement that entitlements need to be cut, I’m curious…has there ever been a study as to use of gov’t resources by socioeconomic class? By “use” I mean any type of governmental benefit, whether a direct payment (i.e. unemployment benefits) or more indirect (i.e. using the interstate). My sense is that the rich use far more gov’t resources…whether it’s tax cuts; the ability to game the IRS code beyond straight tax cuts; the use of highways, airports, etc.

Does anyone know if there’s been a study examining that or if it’s even possible to design a study to track that information?

I think there have been, but I can’t say for sure, and I don’t think any have been recent. It’s probably fairly easy to make an argument that wealthy people are more likely to benefit from federal programs - for example, a wealthy person is more likely to be invested in the stock market, meaning the SEC is more likely to provide them a benefit; likewise, wealthy people are more likely to fly more often, meaning they benefit from things like TSA, the FAA generally, and air traffic controllers.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:28:46am

re: #146 dangerman

claim: “the tax cuts will pay for themselves”
fact: it took less than 10 months for the deficit to explode

Grabbed that for my FB. Red hats may feel triggered.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:30:58am
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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:31:24am

re: #99 jaunte

More documentation that the Trumps are a crime family, their fortune based on fraud.

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given the state of world knowledge, one would have to be a complete moran to invest in anything ‘trump’

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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:31:44am

There’s a reason CenTex is referred to as “Flash Flood Alley”. Lake Travis is on the Colorado River and is one of two big reservoirs upstream of Austin, the other, farther up, being Lake Buchanan (pronounced, for no discernible reason, buck-ANN-an). Travis has two major inputs from side watersheds, the Llano and Pedernales Rivers.

Two days ago, Travis was at 666’ above sea level and held 886,000 acre feet (acre/ft) of water. The last reading was 697’ asl and around 1,500,000 acre/ft. That’s an influx of 600,000 acre/ft. The City of Austin water utility can treat around 325 million gallons of water/day (right at 100 acre/ft) , serving around 1,000,000 people and water-hungry industries like chip fabs.

So what came into that one reservoir is a 600 day supply for the entire city. Pretty amazing.

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:31:50am

re: #141 Mike Lamb

Does anyone know if there’s been a study examining that or if it’s even possible to design a study to track that information?

Follow up thought: it would probably be fairly difficult to come up with exact numbers. But you could probably develop something based on general numbers like I mentioned in my previous comment. Extrapolate how much people at various levels of wealth use directly or otherwise benefit from government programs and agencies.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:34:12am

Trump’s tariffs have created US jobs:

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:34:33am

re: #151 austin_blue

Lake Buchanan (pronounced, for no discernible reason, buck-ANN-an).

Apparently it was named for this guy, who also went by “Buck.” So it’s either that or “Texas” as the answer.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:36:31am

re: #148 Unshaken Defiance

Grabbed that for my FB. Red hats may feel triggered.

the only possible moranic argument i can come up with is:

“it’s just an initial dip before the whole thing just skyrockets!”

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:36:42am

re: #151 austin_blue

Will Lake Travis hold the influx without a big release, or are the downstream towns on the Colorado River preparing for flooding?

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:41:13am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:42:39am
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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:43:42am

re: #152 KGxvi

Follow up thought: it would probably be fairly difficult to come up with exact numbers. But you could probably develop something based on general numbers like I mentioned in my previous comment. Extrapolate how much people at various levels of wealth use directly or otherwise benefit from government programs and agencies.

with absolutely nothing to back it up, im guessing that:
- the lower end uses more direct benefits
- the middle and upper are more ‘indirect’ and therefore not obvious

- the lower end is the target because the lower end relationship appears more correlated and can therefore be attacked and manipulated
- and of course, because of who the lower end are

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:47:35am

re: #149 Scottish Dragon

CNBC: “Pro-Trump pimp, Nevada GOP assembly candidate Dennis Hof dies after rally, birthday party with Grover Norquist, Joe Arpaio and porn legend Ron Jeremy”

That is some headline.

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plansbandc  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:48:34am

re: #158 jaunte

This is about half a mile from my friend’s house.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:48:42am

re: #151 austin_blue

I live a couple of miles from Lake Travis, which as a bass fisherman, I call home. This is Jones Bros. Park where I launch, yesterday. Today the park is completely submerged. Docks have broken their mooring and boat are floating free.

I have a seasonal creek on my property that is in full flow after being dry for the last 3 months. And every seep and spring on the property is flowing

Ahh…… To live atop limestone.

And there is another animal getting ready to maul us to the west right now.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:48:42am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:51:02am

Ghost finally came out with a video for “Dance Macabre”.

Definitely a strong Rocky Horror vibe on this one.

Ghost - Dance Macabre

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dell*nix  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:51:37am

re: #163 jaunte

And a lot of that money is going to republican investors in private facilities.

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austin_blue  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:52:19am

re: #156 jaunte

Will Lake Travis hold the influx without a big release, or are the downstream towns on the Colorado River preparing for flooding?

The “flood pool” level is 681’, so they’ll open a couple of flood gates to drain the lake down to that level. Travis is a Corps of Engineer’s flood control structure. The releases are controlled so that there are NOT catastrophic flood events.

To see what it used it be like, take a look at this:

texashistory.unt.edu

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:52:54am

re: #158 jaunte

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“Missed it by that much!”

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 9:53:15am

re: #156 jaunte

Will Lake Travis hold the influx without a big release, or are the downstream towns on the Colorado River preparing for flooding?

Graveyard Point is evacuating as usual. Anything new in the system needs to go downstream. And as I said, another big animal out to the west. right in the catchment basins for these reservoirs.

I know these lakes like the back of my hand…..

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:02:32am

re: #86 Ace-o-aces

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:03:10am

re: #168 Dave In Austin

Graveyard Point is evacuating as usual. Anything new in the system needs to go downstream. And as I said, another big animal out to the west. right in the catchment basins for these reservoirs.

I know these lakes like the back of my hand…..

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:06:43am
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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:07:24am

re: #160 MsJ

That is some headline.

Tucker Carlson phoned in a congrats as well.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:07:31am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:09:05am
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William Lewis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:09:23am
Alt. U.S. Press Sec.
@AltUSPressSec
He held a green card.
He lived in Virginia.
He worked for the Washington Post.

The left off the most important part.
“And you, Mr. President, are a traitor.”

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Skip Intro  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:09:58am

re: #169 gocart mozart

Next to Hugh Hewitt, Thiessen is the most dishonest columnist the WP has.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:10:20am

re: #149 Scottish Dragon

Shame. Might have been one of the GOP’s more virtuous candidates this year.

half sarc

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:13:09am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:13:24am

If you continue to make excuses to use Facebook, you assent to things like this.

mercurynews.com (Fake numbers? Facebook misled advertisers with inflated ‘potential reach,’ lawsuit says, San José Mercury-News, more at the link):

Facebook allegedly misled advertisers on its platform by demonstrating it had a far larger audience size in U.S. cities and states than it actually had, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday.

The lawsuit, filed by a Kansas-based aromatherapy fashionwear business owner, alleged Facebook ballooned its “Potential Reach” number for how many users were targeted by an advertisement, thereby misleading advertisers to purchase more advertisements than they might otherwise have.

The lawsuit from owner Danielle Singer alleges that Facebook’s purported Potential Reach figures for the 18-to-34 age demographic in all 50 states exceeded the actual population of 18-to-34-year-olds who use Facebook.

The lawsuit also says it received testimony from former Facebook employees confirming the inflation. One anonymous employee said the Potential Reach number was “like a made-up PR number.”

targetmarketingmag.com (Facebook Ad Numbers Inflated, Lawsuit Alleges, Target Marketing, more at the link):

t’s not the first time Facebook’s been accused of inflating its audience numbers. In September, we reported:

“Facebook advertisers have a new beef with the social media giant — it’s counting 25 million more Americans among its users than actually exist, according to U.S. Census data.

“In an article that ironically trended on Facebook on Wednesday, Business Insider’s Alex Heath writes that a Facebook spokesperson believes many of the extra views in the U.S. could be from tourists.”

The continued controversy around the social media network hasn’t yet seemed to drive advertisers away, though Facebook’s revenue numbers weren’t as high as analysts would’ve liked during its last earnings call.

(The article cites various studies to bolster the assertions)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:14:14am

re: #171 makeitstop

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Fucking monster.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:18:34am

Is it possible for Trump to open his mouth and NOT piss someone off?

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:20:59am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:22:32am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

But
LOCK HER UP

This Due Process Week has been a real head-scratcher.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:22:47am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

Holy crap, when you’ve lost Frank Luntz …

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:23:20am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

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Yes and your party loves him Frank.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:24:34am
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MsJ  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:25:19am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:26:04am

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Is it possible for Trump to open his mouth and NOT piss someone off?

Many people are saying he likes to open his mouth and get pissed on.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:27:07am
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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:27:34am

re: #99 jaunte

More documentation that the Trumps are a crime family, their fortune based on fraud.

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What a surprise.

And then they lied their way into the White House.

Congrats American, you were conned.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:27:49am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

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“Guilty until proven innocent”.

“Also, too, fuck investigations.”

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:30:17am

at this moment we have boxes of cats.
if they were in hats, there would be congrats….

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MsJ  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:30:23am

I have a Rosanne comment.

I cannot stand Barr myself but I think it is fascinating to see what male white nationalists like Steve King for example, can get away with, while women cannot.

In Rosanne’s case, who gives a shit? But generally speaking, this goes to show how second class women are, in every aspect.

Ah, the times in which we live.

Also, I am around far less these days because I just can’t…with every single person in this admin and every thing they do. I just fucking can’t.

I have no idea what is going to happen at the midterms but that we’re still seeing polls that the GOP is competitive makes me weep for the nation we once were.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:31:14am

He’s always selective in assigning guilt. Put it this way, he’s shown more sympathy towards the Saudi government than HRC. His whole law and order schtick is a sham.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:32:05am

re: #193 MsJ

I have a Rosanne comment.

I cannot stand Barr myself but I think it is fascinating to see what male white nationalists like Steve King for example, can get away with, while women cannot.

In Rosanne’s case, who gives a shit? But generally speaking, this goes to show how second class women are, in every aspect.

Ah, the times in which we live.

Also, I am around far less these days because I just can’t…with every single person in this admin and every thing they do. I just fucking can’t.

I have no idea what is going to happen at the midterms but that we’re still seeing polls that the GOP is competitive makes me weep for the nation we once were.

Reminds me of the standard given to Serena Williams versus Kavanaugh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:32:21am

Trump was whinging about the press not covering the slight upward tick in the stock market yesterday …

It’s down today.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:33:06am

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

Trump was whinging about the press not covering the slight upward tick in the stock market yesterday …

It’s down today.

Fair is fair Dumbass, let’s cover that.//

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:33:08am

re: #171 makeitstop

Trump, questioned why he hasn’t asked the FBI to help investigate Jamal Khashoggi’s death, says “well, he wasn’t a citizen of our country for one thing

either:
- he does not know what the constitution says and who the fbi protects
- he knows and is deliberately dissembling

he’s not that clever. i vote for the bonehead first answer

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:34:40am

re: #192 dangerman

at this moment we have boxes of cats.
if they were in hats, there would be congrats….

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Both cats are alive, Herr Doktor Schrödinger!

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:35:08am

Jesus fuck, New York Times. I keep approaching you with lower and lower expectations and yet you still manage to disappoint somehow.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:36:16am

re: #200 Citizen K

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Jesus fuck, New York Times. I keep approaching you with lower and lower expectations and yet you still manage to disappoint somehow.

He’s a coward. Nothing but a fucking SA wannabe. Him and his boys.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:37:55am

re: #182 Dave In Austin

BREAKING: Trump tells AP that Saudi Arabia being blamed for missing journalist is another case of “guilty until proven innocent.”

‘blamed’ or ‘accused’ is neither ‘tried’ nor ‘convicted’

here’s a hint how investigations work:
first, someone is suspected of something….

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:38:04am

re: #198 dangerman

either:
- he does not know what the constitution says and who the fbi protects
- he knows and is deliberately dissembling

he’s not that clever. i vote for the bonehead first answer

Or Steve Miller has been feeding him the answers and it’s the second one.

re: #193 MsJ

I have a Rosanne comment.

I cannot stand Barr myself but I think it is fascinating to see what male white nationalists like Steve King for example, can get away with, while women cannot.

In Rosanne’s case, who gives a shit? But generally speaking, this goes to show how second class women are, in every aspect.

Ah, the times in which we live.

Also, I am around far less these days because I just can’t…with every single person in this admin and every thing they do. I just fucking can’t.

I have no idea what is going to happen at the midterms but that we’re still seeing polls that the GOP is competitive makes me weep for the nation we once were.

People care about Rosanne Barr because of her wide reach with her platform as a celebrity. It has nothing to do with women being treated less than men (though throughout the history of the nation they have); it has to do with how Rosanne Barr acts.

As for Steve King, he can’t be gotten rid of unless he resigns, dies, or loses an election.

And speaking of elections, note the massive gains in Democratic seats from mayor to Senate in special elections.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:39:05am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:39:15am

re: #202 dangerman

‘blamed’ or ‘accused’ is neither ‘tried’ nor ‘convicted’

here’s a hint how investigations work:
first, someone is suspected of something….

Exactly. He is clueless about what presumption of innocence means.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:40:02am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:42:04am
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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:42:07am

re: #193 MsJ

I have a Rosanne comment.

I cannot stand Barr myself but I think it is fascinating to see what male white nationalists like Steve King for example, can get away with, while women cannot.

In Rosanne’s case, who gives a shit? But generally speaking, this goes to show how second class women are, in every aspect.

Ah, the times in which we live.

Also, I am around far less these days because I just can’t…with every single person in this admin and every thing they do. I just fucking can’t.

I have no idea what is going to happen at the midterms but that we’re still seeing polls that the GOP is competitive makes me weep for the nation we once were.

you are not wrong
and there is another dynamic here:

- roseanne got canned because she was going to reflect badly on the network and cost it money
- king is a politician who manages to convince enough people that they should vote for him

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:42:37am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Exactly. He is clueless about what presumption of innocence means.

I think Juliette Kayyam’s take is closer to it - he knows they’re guilty but it would cost him money to admit it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:43:17am

re: #192 dangerman

at this moment we have boxes of cats.
if they were in hats, there would be congrats….

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How much shipped for the one on the right?

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:43:53am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

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Headdesk
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:44:36am
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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:44:41am

re: #200 Citizen K

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Jesus fuck, New York Times. I keep approaching you with lower and lower expectations and yet you still manage to disappoint somehow.

expect nothing and you’ll never be disappointed

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:44:58am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

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The DoD budget won’t be touched.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:45:20am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

Except Defense. No waste there.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:46:00am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

He’s a coward. Nothing but a fucking SA wannabe. Him and his boys.

It’s only a matter of time before they cross over the line to outright domestic terrorism.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:46:54am

re: #208 dangerman

you are not wrong
and there is another dynamic here:

- roseanne got canned because she was going to reflect badly on the network and cost it money
- king is a politician who manages to convince enough people that they should vote for him

Hell I’ve never stepped foot in King’s district and I can tell you they either agree with his bigoted bs or don’t find it a dealbreaker. I don’t see anyway he leaves Congress as a direct reaction of his constituents tiring of his bigotry.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:47:12am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

The DoD budget won’t be touched.

I will enter a modest bid as a consultant who can tell the Air Force where grounded planes should be repaired.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:47:12am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

It’s almost like Republicans are fiscally reckless asses.//

…who have perfected blaming their own give-aways and profligacy on the democrats

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:47:15am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

It’s only a matter of time before they cross over the line to outright domestic terrorism.

Charlottesville but yes.

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:47:19am

Like I said yesterday at length, “waste” is such an empty word in American politics when it comes to the budget that the only reason one generally uses it as a substitute for “spending I don’t like.”

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:47:24am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

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Melania plagiarizes Michelle Obama. Trump plagiarizes Herman Cain.

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danarchy  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:48:06am

re: #208 dangerman

you are not wrong
and there is another dynamic here:

- roseanne got canned because she was going to reflect badly on the network and cost it money
- king is a politician who manages to convince enough people that they should vote for him

I think their is only one lesson we can take away from this. Corporations are smarter than voters and they should be in charge of selecting our representatives.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:48:08am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

It’s only a matter of time before they cross over the line to outright domestic terrorism.

Or they decide to attack the wrong person and wind up in the hospital, or worse.

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Weaselone  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:48:09am

re: #204 Dave In Austin

We could never have a national debt of zero - debt is the basis of our money supply and US debt is too important as a savings vehicle and for its use in backing certain transactions to be eliminated entirely. Ideally, what we would want is a debt level that returned to a baseline representing the quantity necessary to provide our monetary base and fulfill some level of demand for it as an investment and for use in backing transactions after rising in response to a recession/depression or other significant national emergency.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:48:25am

re: #221 Targetpractice

Like I said yesterday at length, “waste” is such an empty word in American politics when it comes to the budget that the only reason one generally uses it as a substitute for “spending I don’t like.”

The tax cuts that went to the folks who needed it the least is the source of all the actual waste, but nope, that’s permanent, that’s baked in, and we have to make up for all that by ensuring all our services are worse for it. Sorry, Secretary DeVos needed that 9th yacht, don’t you know!!

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:49:19am
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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:49:28am

re: #200 Citizen K

In addition:

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:49:42am

re: #209 makeitstop

I think Juliette Kayyam’s take is closer to it - he knows they’re guilty but it would cost him money to admit it.

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i think both things are true

- it would cost him money
and
- he doesn’t know the legal and constitutional differences between a citizen, resident, nonresident, alien, visitor, asylum seeker, etc and what rights and rules apply to which group

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:50:25am

re: #226 Citizen K

The tax cuts that went to the folks who needed it the least is the source of all the actual waste, but nope, that’s permanent, that’s baked in, and we have to make up for all that by ensuring all our services are worse for it. Sorry, Secretary DeVos needed that 9th yacht, don’t you know!!

The reality (of course) being that if the GOP says “These tax cuts were a bad idea, let’s scale them back,” they won’t just be writing off the midterms, they’ll be writing off elections for the foreseeable future.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:50:38am

re: #210 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

How much shipped for the one on the right?

you’d have to take me as well because mrs dm would have me out

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:50:46am

re: #222 Mike Lamb

Melania plagiarizes Michelle Obama. Trump plagiarizes Herman Cain.

BE BEST was much easier than ‘Plagiarize the best”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:51:02am

I feel like the media is tip-toeing around the word “sociopath” when they say Trump has a “transactional approach”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:51:19am

re: #226 Citizen K

The tax cuts that went to the folks who needed it the least is the source of all the actual waste, but nope, that’s permanent, that’s baked in, and we have to make up for all that by ensuring all our services are worse for it. Sorry, Secretary DeVos needed that 9th yacht, don’t you know!!

“Permanent” only means “until repealed.”

Democrats can do that if they regain control of the government.

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Weaselone  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:51:24am

re: #228 Citizen K

Now contrast this to their stories about protesters protesting members of the administration in restaurants.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:52:07am

re: #231 dangerman

you’d have to take me as well because mrs dm would have me out

Do you like video games and virtual reality?
/

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:53:11am

re: #235 Weaselone

Now contrast this to their stories about protesters protesting members of the administration in restaurants.

No kidding.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:53:32am

re: #235 Weaselone

Now contrast this to their stories about protesters protesting members of the administration in restaurants.

It’s that ever-present corollary to ‘both sides same thing’: ‘But Dems/leftists do it more and are eviler for doing it’. See: #IOKIYAR

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:54:52am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:55:21am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:56:34am

re: #239 makeitstop

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I don’t know what the hell happened. Help me out here but I don’t think there were too many fluff pieces on Bull Connor, George Lincoln Rockwell, or Frank Collin.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:57:10am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

He’s a coward. Nothing but a fucking SA wannabe. Him and his boys.

That’s so laughable. The real SA may have been assholes, but after what they had been through losing a four-year trench war, they were tough as nails and afraid of nothing. These poseurs would run from any real resistance squealing for their mommies.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:57:13am

re: #207 Dave In Austin

BREAKING: President Trump says he’s asking every Cabinet secretary to trim their next-year budgets by 5 percent, dubbing it the “nickel plan.” I love this plan. There is so much waste in government - it’s time to trim the fat. I strongly support President Trump’s

skilled business man my financial ass

- you never, repeat never make money by cutting expenses. there’s only so much you can cut and it’s a trick that only works once or twice.
- you always, always, always work on increasing revenues. its easier and way more powerful. $100 gained is way more valuable than $100 merely not spent

- in the private sector you find new customers, increase the market pie, generate sales

- in the public sector you raise taxes because that’s all there is
increasing enforcement doesn’t help - there’s not enough there.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:58:58am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

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Weaselone  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:59:08am

re: #243 dangerman

increasing enforcement doesn’t help - there’s not enough there.

Not always true. For example, if we gave the IRS more money for enforcement we could get a substantial return on those dollars.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:59:28am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 10:59:34am

re: #242 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s so laughable. The real SA may have been assholes, but after what they had been through losing a four-year trench war, they were tough as nails and afraid of nothing. These poseurs would run from any real resistance squealing for their mommies.

Hence wannabes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:00:14am

Whelp, Identity Evropa’s founder is now bragging on Twitter over his interview on the “Today” show, as the media continues to normalise fascism:

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:01:29am

re: #135 Scottish Dragon

The Saudis would not have done this with Obama. This is Trump specific. They know he hates the press and they are bankrolling him and his condos. This is corruption on a scale not seen since the 1890s.

I was just motivated again to write a scathing contact message to Rob Portman. This time I went right to calling him a fascist and a man that has allowed the President and leader of his party to allow a journalist to be executed.

I made the fascist comment by reminding him that Ohio’s own former Speaker of the House John Boehner has admitted there are Nazis in the Trumpublican party.

I told Portman if you don’t address these issues, you condone them and your whole party is complicit.

I really am hating Republicans more than ever, and I know it won’t matter, but it makes me feel better to unload on an actual Republican Senator.

Grrrrrrrr. Getting more and more angry by the day.

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:01:49am

re: #236 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Do you like video games and virtual reality?
/

not so much
though i dont eat a lot and will sleep in a corner on some shredded up newspaper

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:02:11am

re: #224 makeitstop

Or they decide to attack the wrong person and wind up in the hospital, or worse.

I’m pretty much hoping it ends up that way.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:02:20am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹

It really is past time to start the massive protests outside of media outlets. This shit is out of control.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:02:30am

re: #249 ObserverArt

I was just motivated again to write a scathing contact message to Rob Portman. This time I went right to calling him a fascist and a man that has allowed the President and leader of his party to allow a journalist to be executed.

I made the fascist comment by reminding him that Ohio’s own former Speaker of the House John Boehner has admitted there are Nazi in the Trumpublican party.

I told Portman if you don’t address these issues, you condone them and your whole party is complicit.

I really am hating Republicans more than ever, and I know it won’t matter, but it makes me feel better to unload on an actual Republican Senator.

Grrrrrrrr. Getting more and more angry by the day.

Give him hell. He deserves it.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:03:28am

Good article

Take the test
It’s really in the third section that a propensity for magical thinking comes in most directly. Here are the six questions asked in that section:

1. On the whole, would you rather …
a) stick your hands in a bowl of cockroaches?
b) stab a photograph of your family six times?

2. Would you rather spend the night in …
a) a luxurious house where a family had recently been murdered?
b) a grimy bus station?

3. Would you rather …
a) stand in line for three hours at the DMV?
b) secretly grind your shoe into an unmarked grave?

4. Would you rather …
a) ride in a speeding car without a seat belt?
b) yell “I hope I die tomorrow” six times out loud?

5. Would you rather …
a) sleep in laundered pajamas once worn by Charles Manson?
b) put a nickel in your mouth that you found on the ground?

6. Suppose you wanted to buy a ticket for a $500-million lottery. Would you rather buy your ticket from a nearby gas station that had …
a) never sold a winning ticket but had no lines?
b) sold two winning tickets in the past three years but had a long line?

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:03:50am

re: #245 Weaselone

Not always true. For example, if we gave the IRS more money for enforcement we could get a substantial return on those dollars.

Maybe. But there’s a question of how long it would take to collect (due process and all that). And the potential for litigation depending on how the IRS interprets laws vs how tax payers interpret laws - meaning is this just aggressive use of the law to lower a tax burden lawfully, or is this tax fraud? My guess is that more often than not the actions that the ultrawealthy are taking to reduce their tax liability is lawful, even if it is coming close to unlawful. That’s what they pay CPAs and tax lawyers for, after all.

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Mike Lamb  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:04:09am

re: #228 Citizen K

In addition:

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He’s not afraid to “get physical”?

The NY Times: where fascist gang violence is nothing more than an Olivia Newton John single…

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:04:46am

re: #153 BlueSpotinAL

Trump’s tariffs have created US jobs:

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Drain that swamp!

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Targetpractice  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:05:00am

re: #243 dangerman

skilled business man my financial ass

- you never, repeat never make money by cutting expenses. there’s only so much you can cut and it’s a trick that only works once or twice.
- you always, always, always work on increasing revenues. its easier and way more powerful. $100 gained is way more valuable than $100 merely not spent

- in the private sector you find new customers, increase the market pie, generate sales

- in the public sector you raise taxes because that’s all there is
increasing enforcement doesn’t help - there’s not enough there.

Biggest problem for the GOP is they’re playing from a script that generally relies upon things working in a certain series of events:

- GOP cut taxes to return on their rich donors investments
- The economy tanks, driving up federal deficits
- Media scares the bejesus out of the public over federal deficits
- The GOP then come back out saying the rising deficits require budgetary cuts
- Economy begins to recover, the claim the cuts caused the recovery

Problem is they’ve spent the better part of the last year taking turns blowing Donny for producing a “booming” economy that they can’t blame the deficits on a downturn. Worse yet, if the economy does take a downturn, they’ll take the blame for saying the tax cuts were responsible for the “boom.” So all they can do is read from the script and hope to fuck that the public is stupid enough to go along.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:05:10am

Media in a nutshell
Fascists: We’re fascists!
Anti-Fascistss: We’re against fascism!
Media: Well they both talk about fascism and Richard Spencer likes Asian food so let’s do a fluff piece on him.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:05:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:05:59am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

I don’t know what the hell happened. Help me out here but I don’t think there were too many fluff pieces on Bull Connor, George Lincoln Rockwell, or Frank Collin.

The New York Times has yet to withdraw its endorsement of Adolph Hitler.

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Citizen K  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:06:42am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:07:01am

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

The New York Times has yet to withdraw its endorsement of Adolph Hitler.

I was speaking in general but absolutely.

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gocart mozart  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:07:32am
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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:07:54am

re: #245 Weaselone

Not always true. For example, if we gave the IRS more money for enforcement we could get a substantial return on those dollars.

oh yes, that is true on an ror basis.

for sheer volume of dollars - ie the deficits we’re talking about, a broad based tax increase would far outpace the enforcement gains. and the collections are more or less immediate

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:07:55am

re: #224 makeitstop

Or they decide to attack the wrong person and wind up in the hospital, or worse.

Yeah…..I figure one of these days, they’re gonna pick on the wrong person and one of those Proud Boys is gonna end a Dead Boy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:08:15am

re: #249 ObserverArt

Good. Make him own it.

My milquetoast senator Ben Sasse remains concerned.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:09:35am

re: #184 Anymouse 🌹

Holy crap, when you’ve lost Frank Luntz …

You never lose a guy like Frank Luntz.

He’ll complain a bit and then go right back to sucking off Trump.

Edit: Oops…wrong right!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:10:12am

There’s a part of me who feels after 153 years since Appomattox that Civil War might be inevitable in my lifetime but what I’m also worried about is the global spread of this. Germany is going to face a big test when Merkel retires. I don’t know if the German center-right and center-left are strong enough to overcome it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:10:49am

Behold the Coagula

Yeah, I finally watched Get Out

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:10:59am

re: #254 gocart mozart

Good article

[Embedded content]

Take the test
It’s really in the third section that a propensity for magical thinking comes in most directly. Here are the six questions asked in that section:

1. On the whole, would you rather …
a) stick your hands in a bowl of cockroaches?
b) stab a photograph of your family six times?

2. Would you rather spend the night in …
a) a luxurious house where a family had recently been murdered?
b) a grimy bus station?

3. Would you rather …
a) stand in line for three hours at the DMV?
b) secretly grind your shoe into an unmarked grave?

4. Would you rather …
a) ride in a speeding car without a seat belt?
b) yell “I hope I die tomorrow” six times out loud?

5. Would you rather …
a) sleep in laundered pajamas once worn by Charles Manson?
b) put a nickel in your mouth that you found on the ground?

6. Suppose you wanted to buy a ticket for a $500-million lottery. Would you rather buy your ticket from a nearby gas station that had …
a) never sold a winning ticket but had no lines?
b) sold two winning tickets in the past three years but had a long line?

Some of these questions are…really not cool.

Stabbing a picture of your family of course doesn’t hurt your family, but is still seen by society as a deeply deviant act and under certain circumstances could earn you a visit from law enforcement or social services.

Also, owning and wearing pajamas by Charles Manson would be viewed with disdain and disgust by nearly everybody and would make you a social pariah in record time…magical thinking or not.

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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:12:40am

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

Good. Make him own it.

My milquetoast senator Ben Sasse remains concerned.

But it looks like he’s got a great new book out again about building character and community and values and stuff like that, so he must be a serious dude.

//

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:13:25am

Our battle isn’t over ideology. It’s something far more basic. Do we want a country and world of inclusion or exclusion.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:14:06am

re: #245 Weaselone

Not always true. For example, if we gave the IRS more money for enforcement we could get a substantial return on those dollars.

Yes, but that would get wealthy tax-evaders locked up. We lock up poor people in America.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:14:38am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Humanity vs. fascism, and the Republicans have not chosen humanity.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:16:00am

re: #268 ObserverArt

You never lose a guy like Frank Luntz.

He’ll complain a bit and then go write back to sucking off Trump.

Until the party turns on Trump anyway. Luntz knows who pays his bills.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:16:01am

Huh? What do you mean there is paper literally hanging from my mouth?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:17:33am

re: #275 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Humanity vs. fascism, and the Republicans have not chosen humanity.

Exactly.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:21:11am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Busted!

I see very guilty doggos.

Hint: try to get the paper towel out of your mouth before acting like you didn’t do it.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:21:39am

theguardian.com

Video footage released on Tuesday by a civil rights group shows an off-duty Chicago police officer shooting an unarmed, autistic man during an incident initially described as an armed confrontation.
Sgt Khalil Muhammad shot then-18-year-old Ricardo Hayes as he walked on the city’s South Side. Hayes had wandered away from his home around 5am on 13 August 2017, according to a lawsuit over the shooting filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). His caretaker called police, informing them he was autistic.

Jesus.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:22:54am

re: #218 jaunte

I will enter a modest bid as a consultant who can tell the Air Force where grounded planes should be repaired.

hahaha!

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:23:04am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That is my dining room if we leave fresh spinach out and the cats find it.

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makeitstop  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:23:05am

Indeed. Mudd gets right to it.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:24:29am

“Incels” are the bottom of the barrel, is scientific fact.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:24:35am

re: #280 Scottish Dragon

theguardian.com

Jesus.

That hits close to home.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:27:10am

re: #281 Barefoot Grin

hahaha!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:28:57am

Sen. John Kennedy just now: “I trust most countries in the middle east as much as I trust gas station sushi.” That’s funny. Too bad he gives Trump the benefit of the doubt without reservation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:29:03am
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Sir John Barron  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:31:24am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“stealthily infiltrate”?

Oh, no need for that. Just join right up.

/

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:31:28am

Welp, the computer Gods hate me. Now running on the laptop because the desktop system took a dump. Currently doing a clean install of of Win7 Pro 64 Bit. Thankfully, I DON’T keep crucial files on my C: drive. Those are kept on removable media. But having to reload drivers and doing the widows update is going to take me all day today as well as into tomorrow. Think I’ll grab a beer and paint my nails as I wait and wait and wait.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:31:51am
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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:31:57am

re: #281 Barefoot Grin

Sadly, I must admit to Cruz neck-fat shaming.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:32:37am

re: #287 Barefoot Grin

Sen. John Kennedy just now: “I trust most countries in the middle east as much as I trust gas station sushi.” That’s funny. Too bad he gives Trump the benefit of the doubt without reservation.

We entirely lost the moral high-ground with a pathological liar as President.

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:32:49am

re: #283 makeitstop

Indeed. Muddgets right to it.

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Best 17 seconds of the day, so far.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:34:11am

re: #292 jaunte

Sadly, I must admit to Cruz neck-fat shaming.

I try to focus on how weak he is in the face of old-man Trump, but I’m not above mentioning that his face has melted in some tragic experiment that gave him the superpower of making people’s eyes roll.

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jaunte  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:34:15am

re: #287 Barefoot Grin

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wrenchwench  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:34:50am

re: #294 wrenchwench

Best 17 seconds of the day, so far.

Oh, wait. The doggos with the kleenexes were good, too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:38:59am

re: #289 Sir John Barron

“stealthily infiltrate”?

Oh, no need for that. Just join right up.

/

And NBC will help you recruit by giving you airtime on the “Today” show.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:42:52am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:46:01am

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹

And NBC will help you recruit by giving you airtime on the “Today” show.

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Mattand  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:46:10am

Trying to fight the urge of posting a comment on Facebook that if you are horrified with Trump, but still planning on voting GOP, it makes you a fucking idiot who really should just not vote at all.

Most of my audience there won’t have a problem with it, but there’s just enough civility tone trolls and actual Republicans that it may raise a stink. I still have to live with these people.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:47:00am

John Cole reminds us of the origin of the Unitarian Jihad—and my screenname:

2005- We Were So Young and Innocent

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:48:26am

re: #302 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledgre: #302 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

John Cole reminds us of the origin of the Unitarian Jihad—and my screenname:

2005- We Were So Young and Innocent

And how I got mine.

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Interesting Times  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:49:46am

re: #301 Mattand

Trying to fight the urge of posting a comment on Facebook that if you are horrified with Trump, but still planning on voting GOP, it makes you a fucking idiot who really should just not vote at all.

Replace “fucking idiot” with “complicit enabler” - hard to see how the civility/tone-trolls will bad-faith their way through that one.

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sagehen  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:50:44am

re: #255 KGxvi

Maybe. But there’s a question of how long it would take to collect (due process and all that). And the potential for litigation depending on how the IRS interprets laws vs how tax payers interpret laws - meaning is this just aggressive use of the law to lower a tax burden lawfully, or is this tax fraud? My guess is that more often than not the actions that the ultrawealthy are taking to reduce their tax liability is lawful, even if it is coming close to unlawful. That’s what they pay CPAs and tax lawyers for, after all.

Well-publicised reductions in enforcement… results in more cheating. Basic cost-benefit analysis by low-level cheaters. If they think they’re likely to be caught, they’re not going to risk penalties and interest and needing a lawyer. When they hear that enforcement has been slashed they’re more willing to take chances.

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Scottish Dragon  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:56:06am
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calochortus  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:57:19am

re: #286 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Cutting spending to improve financial results seems ironic, done in the week Sears declared bankruptcy. Setting departments against each other and cutting spending may have put bucks in Lempert’s pockets, but it destroyed the company.

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:57:37am

re: #305 sagehen

Well-publicised reductions in enforcement… results in more cheating. Basic cost-benefit analysis by low-level cheaters. If they think they’re likely to be caught, they’re not going to risk penalties and interest and needing a lawyer. When they hear that enforcement has been slashed they’re more willing to take chances.

Fair, but my concern is the “low-level cheaters” they go after are the folks who maybe claimed that the donation they made to Goodwill or the local library was worth $500 instead of $100. There’s marginal return on investment for enforcement in those cases, whereas the Fred Trump Tax Scheme has massive return on investment. But going after the small time “cheats” is easier, quicker, and looks better in an annual report compared to “investigations into potential long term tax fraud schemes continue, and ongoing litigation regarding previously identified tax fraud schemes continue.”

It’s basically the same thing as “broken windows” enforcement vs white collar crime enforcement.

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KGxvi  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:58:48am

re: #306 Scottish Dragon

What else do they have to do in Montana and Wisconsin besides shooting old beer cans from 100 yards?

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dangerman  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:59:09am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Our battle isn’t over ideology. It’s something far more basic. Do we want a country and world of inclusion or exclusion.

i would add, it’s also over ‘process’ - ie how we govern. is it based on
truth/reality/empiricism under the constitution
or
lies and/or magical thinking enforced by autocracy

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 11:59:48am

re: #288 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What was that thinking that younger people were not going to be bigoted due to them being more open and accepting.

We have some real bad problems in this country and this is a big one.

If Trump did anything, he brought the fascists out into the light. Now we can clearly see them.

By the way…do you all hear the Evangelicals and other fundie religious types talking about how this is all against God’s plan and it needs to end???

Didn’t think so. They are helping it along.

I’m not a believer in a hands-on active God…but damn, I admit I’d love to see some real Old Testament smiting on some of these pulpit pimp types.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:01:11pm

re: #310 dangerman

i would add, it’s also over ‘process’ - ie how we govern. is it based on
truth/reality/empiricism under the constitution
or
lies and/or magical thinking enforced by autocracy

Agreed. Progress works with inclusion but that’s a key point.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:03:10pm

re: #292 jaunte

Sadly, I must admit to Cruz neck-fat shaming.

Your comment reminds me.

What the hell is up with the creepy grinning Cruz does while Beto cuts him to the bone?

It seems to be all a game with him.

Ted is a real strange dude.

Real strange.

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ObserverArt  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:03:54pm

re: #294 wrenchwench

Best 17 seconds of the day, so far.

Pretty hard to top someone calling Trump a fat-ass on TV.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Oct 17, 2018 • 12:10:11pm

re: #193 MsJ

Roseanne Bar was fired by the president of ABC Entertainment, Channing Dungey, for making racist comments about black women.
Channing Dungey is a black woman.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 17, 2018 • 1:20:15pm

re: #290 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Welp, the computer Gods hate me. Now running on the laptop because the desktop system took a dump. Currently doing a clean install of of Win7 Pro 64 Bit. Thankfully, I DON’T keep crucial files on my C: drive. Those are kept on removable media. But having to reload drivers and doing the widows update is going to take me all day today as well as into tomorrow. Think I’ll grab a beer and paint my nails as I wait and wait and wait.

Bad, but still not as bad as “the good old days”.

“Please insert disk 3 of 16. Press enter to continue.”


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