Amazing Video: Ultra High Definition Orbits of Saturn

Breathtaking photography of the ringed gas giant
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This video has 2 slow orbits of the ringed planet Saturn,one equatorial and one over the poles.

It’s done in 4k UHD, with a high frame rate, so I recommend watching it full screen!

Music is by the always impressive All India Radio (@allindiaradio), and the textures were kindly provided by Björn Jónsson (@bjorn_jons).

Video by @runnymonkey.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2018 • 2:42:44pm

Whoa, this is stunning.

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gocart mozart  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:32:08pm
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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:34:37pm

re: #2 gocart mozart

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:35:33pm

15, 23, 53, 65, 70. Mega Ball 07

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:36:22pm

I would never have guessed those.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:37:03pm

Here is a part of a video showing Saturn’s hexagonal North Pole permanent hurricane:

What has NASA’s Cassini seen during its Grand Finale?

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:37:25pm

And hey-o! Another byline for moi!

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:40:31pm

The California lottery says no one won the jackpot but someone in Morgan Hill matched 5 numbers.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:41:29pm

The part in the polar view where you can see all the stars because the shadow of the planet is keeping the particles in the rings from reflecting light is really cool.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:43:21pm

re: #8 MsJ

The California lottery says no one won the jackpot but someone in Morgan Hill matched 5 numbers.

The last big jackpot, which was won in California, was not shown on the Cal website until a while after the draw. They had no winner for a while, then a the winner came up on the page.

The MegaMillions website has not finished their accounting.

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retired cynic  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:46:52pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

15, 23, 53, 65, 70. Mega Ball 07

shoot, I was two-off, one-off, one-off, and had one right. That’s closer than I usually get! Shucks. And I was ready for it….

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:47:15pm

Calottery does not say if the “5 of 6” means 5 white balls and not the gold ball. I presume that is what they mean, and not 4+1.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:47:17pm

The basics are that Heritage was running an operation to get conservative clerks to work for as many judges as possible, and were training and making the clerks promise to make their work highly biased toward a conservative viewpoint.

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teleskiguy  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:49:48pm

I bought two quick picks. I got one number, 53.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:52:13pm

re: #14 teleskiguy

I bought two quick picks. I got one number, 53.

That exactly what I got.

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:56:44pm

re: #12 freetoken

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Calottery does not say if the “5 of 6” means 5 white balls and not the gold ball. I presume that is what they mean, and not 4+1.

What would that person get in $$?

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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:57:38pm

I won’t check my numbers for a while. That way I might still be a winner!!

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2018 • 8:59:06pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

15, 23, 53, 65, 70. Mega Ball 07

I would have had two right (when I play lottery, I use the numbers from Lost)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:00:16pm

Lottery…..
I worked for IGT/GTECH for 3 yrs in a critical IT role. They are the largest Lottery operator in the world. They also run most major gaming in casinos around the world.

Would you believe the company is owned by a single Italian family?

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:02:19pm
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MsJ  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:02:41pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:07:37pm

re: #21 MsJ

Who needs ‘em. And who needs the Trumps?

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:31:03pm
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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:31:37pm

re: #21 MsJ

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:35:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:41:49pm

And I say, in the most Southern way possible:
Bless his heart

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:44:08pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And I say, in the most Southern way possible:
Bless his heart

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Hope every day in Russia is miserable for him. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:45:11pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You know, Ed, if you had gone to Rolling Stone rather than Hong Kong and Russia, you might have been able to go to Hawaii. Instead, you leaked secrets to foreign governments as well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:50:42pm

So the Cook County Clerk sent residents a mailing that lists the contests on my ballot for the November election:

—11 judicial contests to fill vacancies plus 59 judges up for retention.

Ugghh.. The only situation where I may vote Republican depending on the recommendations of the 11 different organizations that rate judges.

— 3 referenda. Will have to study the issues involved.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:55:04pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And I say, in the most Southern way possible:
Bless his heart

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Well, he finally realizes that he was just used by Putin and it’s only a matter of time before he trips out of a window.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:55:27pm

Governor of Alaska has dropped out and endorsed the Democratic nomineeLink

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 19, 2018 • 9:59:29pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:00:42pm

Just looked at my MegaMillions ticket…and it’s Passover time again.

Didn’t match any numbers…

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:04:52pm

re: #31 KGxvi

Saw that, and he said that the Republican wants to take everything away the the state has to take care of its people. Hopefully, Alaska will be smarter than Kentucky. The problem is that some early ballots have already been cast.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:07:26pm
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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:09:09pm

re: #16 MsJ

What would that person get in $$?

In California the large-ish prizes are based on a shared system that depends upon how many tickets were sold. On Tuesday the sole 5-number MM winner won a bit under $2M. (The PowerBall 5 number prize was a bit over $2M but no one won it on Wed.) I presume with more tickets sold in the latest round will make for a larger 5-number pot this time.

The 4+1 winner(s) get considerably less.

On Tues the 4+1 winners: 4 + MEGA 19 $8,955

But the prior drawing with a smaller pot had fewer winners, so they got more money each:
4 + MEGA 6 $16,125

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:10:18pm

Generally speaking, Lottery payouts are much, much worse than casino payouts, for any given odds.

The only reason to play the major state Lotteries is to win the big prize.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:13:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:22:22pm

When you view your own granddaughter foremost as an ethnic prop.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:27:48pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

When you view your own granddaughter foremost as an ethnic prop.

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Dean Heller is very high on the list of politicians that I would really enjoy punching in the face and/or throat. I mean, he’s not at the Marco Rubio/Ted Cruz tier, but he’s shooting up the charts

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:30:22pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

When you view your own granddaughter foremost as an ethnic prop.

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Says the guy who said he wouldn’t vote for an ACA repeal opposed by his Governor, then broke his promise and did it anyway.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:31:08pm

re: #37 freetoken

Generally speaking, Lottery payouts are much, much worse than casino payouts, for any given odds.

Yep the nominal advertised value and the pre-tax cash option aren’t anywhere near similar, because the advertised value is the total pre-tax payout after 25 years of installments. If you take the lump sum option after taxes it usually ends up being around 1/3 or so of the amount printed on the tin, or take the estimated cash value and multiply by 0.63 for a very close estimate of the net take home, assuming you don’t also have a separate state tax on winnings.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:53:23pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

30 years of payout for the annuity, I think.

When I wrote about the bad payouts I was thinking of the smaller prizes. The payouts are ridiculously low for the odds. You’re better off going to a casino and playing the craps table, or a slot machine.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:58:32pm

If I was Putin right now I’d be looking hard at what intelligence I could leak to further destabilize and delegitimize the House of Saud. An opportunity exists to massively spike oil prices if the right levers are pulled & KSA can be manipulated into civil unrest or tempted into averting it by using an escalated conflict with Iran as a distraction.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:58:47pm

re: #43 freetoken

30 years of payout for the annuity, I think.

When I wrote about the bad payouts I was thinking of the smaller prizes. The payouts are ridiculously low for the odds. You’re better off going to a casino and playing the craps table, or a slot machine.

How secure is the annuity? Is there a possibility that the organization guaranteeing the payment will go bankrupt, leaving the winner with (e.g.) only 15 years instead of the promised 30 years?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 10:59:48pm

These mendacious boot lickers are fucking amazing.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:04:30pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

How secure is the annuity? Is there a possibility that the organization guaranteeing the payment will go bankrupt, leaving the winner with (e.g.) only 15 years instead of the promised 30 years?

Probably, I mean it’s not going to be FDIC secure so there’s hypothetically a chance. But it’s going to be pretty low because the way usually structured is the estimated cash value is put into something like a bond or money market account at a major institution. So any event that takes it down is going to take the entire economy down.

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:07:16pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

The corporations have been in business for several years now, since 1996 for MegaMillions (according to Wikipedia), so it’s already 22 years old.

But your concern about the stability of these ventures in the long run is a good one, I think.

If one thinks they want an annuity in their life (and financial planners often frown on these things), you’re better off taking the MegaMillions cash prize, pay the 25% to the IRS, and go buy a commercial annuity, the best of which gets one an equivalent 6%-8% return (depending if you want a cash-out upon death type or not, the latter paying the higher rate per year.)

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freetoken  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:25:45pm

So far no state lottery has declared a winner. The MM company site still says “Pending” though, so there may be a state that hasn’t reported in.

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Targetpractice  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:38:23pm

For some reason, I realized I feel somewhat better about losing if nobody won the jackpot.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2018 • 11:39:11pm

re: #45 Hecuba’s daughter

How secure is the annuity? Is there a possibility that the organization guaranteeing the payment will go bankrupt, leaving the winner with (e.g.) only 15 years instead of the promised 30 years?

Very low odds on that.

Better odds on you not having 30 years of life expectancy. Especially if you have siblings or offspring who have decades for greed to fester and they’d like the payout to go to them instead. (or if any of those siblings or offspring have a drug dealer to satisfy, or a new spouse who never liked you anyway, or whatevs.)

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:01:18am
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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:20:19am

So the narrative is that this group of 15 men flew to Turkey to kidnap Jamal without MbS having any knowledge, confronted him at the consulate where they intended to interrogate him before hauling him away, the whole thing instead turned into a fist fight where one of the men got overzealous and killed him with a chokehold, then they panicked and handed off the body to a collaborator to dispose of while cleaning up the scene of the crime.

And we’re supposed to believe this load of horseshit?

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:41:48am

Am I wrong?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:49:23am

re: #53 Targetpractice

So the narrative is that this group of 15 men flew to Turkey to kidnap Jamal without MbS having any knowledge, confronted him at the consulate where they intended to interrogate him before hauling him away, the whole thing instead turned into a fist fight where one of the men got overzealous and killed him with a chokehold, then they panicked and handed off the body to a collaborator to dispose of while cleaning up the scene of the crime.

Then we’re supposed to believe that MBS just never inquired about exactly what the fuck happened with his interrogation & kidnapping order and once the news broke lied to the world about not being involved because really he was responsibly working behind the scenes Scooby Doo style to investigate and bring the real killers to justice and didn’t want to tip them off or something. Oh yeah, also that whole botnet disinformation and trash talking the victim campaign was totally run by someone else, like I don’t know, maybe Soros.

Anyway the point is that MBS is a good egg and real stand up guy who ordered a totally normal kidnapping, then promptly forgot about it before the Turks reminded him and then found the killers and exonerated himself after coordinating his response with Jared Kushner and vehemently denying any knowledge or involvement for weeks … y’know, as one does.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:52:13am

re: #54 Ace-o-aces

I’m not an expert either, but the set-up does seem impractical. Plus, that sidearm seems like it would do a lot of property damage even if the user managed to hit the “intruder,” like holes in the walls and bullets hitting people on the other side of the wall.

Comments in that threat note the price tag is still on the gun, and one local said she’s probably at one particular gun shop in her hometown of Zanesville, pop. 25,000.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:00:34am

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Then we’re supposed to believe that MBS just never inquired about exactly what the fuck happened with his interrogation & kidnapping order and once the news broke lied to the world about not being involved because really he was responsibly working behind the scenes Scooby Doo style to investigate and bring the real killers to justice and didn’t want to tip them off or something. Oh yeah, also that whole botnet disinformation and trash talking the victim campaign was totally run by someone else, like I don’t know, maybe Soros.

Anyway the point is that MBS is a good egg and real stand up guy who ordered a totally normal kidnapping, then promptly forgot about it before the Turks reminded him and then found the killers and exonerated himself after coordinating his response with Jared Kushner and vehemently denying any knowledge or involvement for weeks … y’know, as one does.

“The real masterminds have been captured, have given confessions, and will be executed for their crimes!”

“About your kidnapping and interrogation orders…”

“The matter’s closed!”

“You’re expecting us to believe you knew no…”

“THE MATTER IS CLOSED! NOW SILENCE OR I’LL CUT OFF YOUR OIL!”

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:06:01am

re: #54 Ace-o-aces

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Am I wrong?

I’m 99.9% sure it’s not a real silencer / suppressor. Real suppressors almost always have end caps that you can usually see on one side, allowing you to take the internals out and clean the baffles. That’s just a solid chunk of aluminum that someone bored out, fluted for decoration and threaded on one end. You’d never flute a real silencer all the way to both ends like that because then you’d have to time the threads perfectly which is a pain in the ass for machinists. You could just go with rebated caps on the ends but this doesn’t pass the smell test, in part because no NFA makers marks are visible and the whole thing just looks mall ninja as fuck.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:10:27am

Maybe it’s because it’s Friday night, but some states must have some really slow lottery accounting processes.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:12:33am

So Luke Cage has been cancelled. This comes on the heels of Iron Fist being cancelled.

Maybe super-hero exhaustion is finally setting in for the entertainment biz.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:22:48am

re: #60 freetoken

So Luke Cage has been cancelled. This comes on the heels of Iron Fist being cancelled.

Maybe super-hero exhaustion is finally setting in for the entertainment biz.

I can’t say I’ll miss Iron Fist, but Luke Cage was really very good. We will end up losing Colleen Wing as a character, since she was a featured regular in one and a guest in the other. Wonder what the plan is for Daredevil, Jessica Jones, The Defenders and The Punisher?

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:41:58am

re: #61 wheat-dogg

I can’t say I’ll miss Iron Fist, but Luke Cage was really very good. We will end up losing Colleen Wing as a character, since she was a featured regular in one and a guest in the other. Wonder what the plan is for Daredevil, Jessica Jones, The Defenders and The Punisher?

Hopefully they bring back Colleen Wing and Misty Knight in a new Daughters of the Dragon series.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:41:58am


My wonder-dog, Roswell II the Atomic Pound Pup, proudly identifies with picture 3.
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Single-handed sailor  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:51:47am

All thinking people vote Democrat, unfortunately we need a majority.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:56:31am

Texas puts their lottery sales data online for all to see, so nerdy me tracked recent regular ($2) MegaMillions ticket counts in TX for the following draws:

Fri Oct-05-2018 2,073,354
Tue Oct-09-2018 2,507,250
Fri Oct-12-2018 4,268,315
Tue Oct-16-2018 7,692,736

I suspect that when the data comes in for the Oct 19 draw that the tickets sold will almost double again.

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:02:01am

re: #60 freetoken

So Luke Cage has been cancelled. This comes on the heels of Iron Fist being cancelled.

Maybe super-hero exhaustion is finally setting in for the entertainment biz.

Marvel seems to have difficulty keeping any series not named Agents of SHIELD going for longer than 2 seasons. Agent Carter was canned after 2 seasons, now Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Hell, even AoS had trouble keeping viewership because it had to wait on The Winter Soldier to hit theaters to have its first major plot twist.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:07:28am

re: #66 Targetpractice

Marvel seems to have difficulty keeping any series not named Agents of SHIELD going for longer than 2 seasons. Agent Carter was canned after 2 seasons, now Iron Fist and Luke Cage. Hell, even AoS had trouble keeping viewership because it had to wait on The Winter Soldier to hit theaters to have its first major plot twist.

Agent Carter died because the scriptwriters lost the plot after the first episode of season 2. Maybe they already knew the show was doomed, but the episodes just got progressively sillier. They lost me when Carter fell onto a upright rebar, piercing her straight through the abdomen, was pulled off the rebar and carried home to be patched up singlehandedly by a nurse. After a few hours of rest, Carter was back on her feet again.

Nope. Not even Batman can recover from a life-threatening injury that fast.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:07:48am

I’m so old I remember when China bought soybeans from the USA.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:17:42am

re: #29 Hecuba’s daughter

I only voted for one Republican - the county auditor of where I’m registered to vote. I’ve voted for him in the past, and by all accounts, he’s doing an excellent job. He’s not a wingnut, either; from what I recall of the man, he leans a bit more towards being an Eisenhower Republican with a little tiny dash of Libertarian and he’s a lifelong community member. He’s been by recognized the state Secretary of State as “County Auditor of the Year” more than once as well.

Everyone else, yeah, straight D ticket this around.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:20:06am

It now looks official, no one won.

Est annuitized prize on Tues is $1.6B. Present value expected to be $904M.

megamillions.com

The California claim form doesn’t have enough digits to claim the annuity:

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:21:52am

re: #67 wheat-dogg

Agent Carter died because the scriptwriters lost the plot after the first episode of season 2. Maybe they already knew the show was doomed, but the episodes just got progressively sillier. They lost me when Carter fell onto a upright rebar, piercing her straight through the abdomen, was pulled off the rebar and carried home to be patched up singlehandedly by a nurse. After a few hours of rest, Carter was back on her feet again.

Nope. Not even Batman can recover from a life-threatening injury that fast.

I’d argue what killed Agent Carter was executive meddling. The series got little real advertisement, the second season premiere was rescheduled and the first season only put on the Marvel website days before the second season started airing. It really seems like studio execs decided early on that the series was not drawing the numbers that they were seeing with AoS and drew the conclusion that there was just no fan interest in a series centered around Peggy Carter.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:45:59am

Looking at this years MegaMillions estimated values, comparing the annuitized estimate versus the current cash value estimate, and one can clearly see inflation.

The current cash value ratio has been going down all year, which means that the lottery, which puts out bids for the annuity to major financial institutions, has to offer more money to buy any given size of annuity.

The current CV ratio is only .56, but earlier this year it was .59 .

Inflation - it’s coming at us fast.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:51:32am

A year ago the ratio was .619 .

What Trump and the GOP have done, but massively increasing the deficits and by giving their friends billions of dollars in tax breaks (which are used to puff up equities via buy backs), is set us up for a financial disaster.

Once inflation starts kicking up, the only way to control it is with economic collapse of some sort.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:52:52am

re: #71 Targetpractice

I’d argue what killed Agent Carter was executive meddling. The series got little real advertisement, the second season premiere was rescheduled and the first season only put on the Marvel website days before the second season started airing. It really seems like studio execs decided early on that the series was not drawing the numbers that they were seeing with AoS and drew the conclusion that there was just no fan interest in a series centered around Peggy Carter.

They would be wrong. Maybe AC was just a little too early to catch the “tough as nails heroine” trend we’ve seen since the show was canceled. I wish they’d have been willing to invest a bit more money in the series, but networks are all about the $$, not about pleasing a relatively small segment of fandom.

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2018 • 2:58:54am

LOL! Sidebar is featuring “chilling last words of murderers.” Best one so far: “Hurry up you sons of bitches! Give love to mother.”

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:04:35am

re: #14 teleskiguy

I bought two quick picks. I got one number, 53.

apparently I’m just really bad at this. I bought six on a whim and got one number.

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teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:04:53am

Oh for fuck’s sake.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:05:29am

Not only does the California claim form not have enough digits for the new booty scale, the website seems to not be able to handle the big number:

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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:09:32am

re: #32 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Ecuador: “Oh okay. There’s the door!”

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teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:15:08am
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steve_davis  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:19:50am

re: #63 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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My wonder-dog, Roswell II the Atomic Pound Pup, proudly identifies with picture 3.

“I help blind people….” Took me a moment to realize he meant that in the good way!

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teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:22:04am

Cities (Remastered & Extended Version)

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:42:51am

The oddness of the juxtaposition of these two stories:

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:47:54am
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teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2018 • 3:52:05am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 20, 2018 • 4:38:23am

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Targetpractice  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:08:07am
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teleskiguy  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:08:23am

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:12:18am

re: #87 Targetpractice

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I really do wonder if the Ecuadorians will finally say, “Enough of this bullshit” and toss his ass out of the embassy.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:17:07am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

I really do wonder if the Ecuadorians will finally say, “Enough of this bullshit” and toss his ass out of the embassy.

I have to wonder if they are trying to make him so miserable that he will leave of his own volition.
Next up: no more food deliveries.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:19:29am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

I don’t see how they’ve kept him that long. I can understand WHY.

But I can’t understand HOW. Like, at some point I would have expected a bunch of them to just carry him out the door so they could be rid of him.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:30:27am

re: #91 Sufficient unto the day…

I don’t see how they’ve kept him that long. I can understand WHY.

But I can’t understand HOW. Like, at some point I would have expected a bunch of them to just carry him out the door so they could be rid of him.

I figure they may need to call in specialists to clean his living quarters once he is gone.

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:33:44am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

I really do wonder if the Ecuadorians will finally say, “Enough of this bullshit” and toss his ass out of the embassy.

This is worse than that guy suing his parents for kicking him out of the house. He is still there despite all of the breathless notices that have been going on for years that he is going to leave at any moment.

lol, he’s your problem Ecuador, it’s not like every person on the planet couldn’t have told you what kind of guy Julian really is.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:33:58am

My new pet peeve is going to the market, and the person in front of me not putting their items on the belt…

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:35:35am

re: #91 Sufficient unto the day…

I don’t see how they’ve kept him that long. I can understand WHY.

But I can’t understand HOW. Like, at some point I would have expected a bunch of them to just carry him out the door so they could be rid of him.

Maybe the Ecuadorians can borrow Kavanaugh’s exorcist?

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 5:40:06am

I noticed that there are 44 states playing. The four largest states are on the list (I actually don’t know what the fifth largest state is by population). We figured out last night that there are a little over 300M possible combinations. What if we coordinated with a bunch of people to play unique numbers? Not in the usual sense that if one wins, we all do, but that you still get the prize if you do, but that there would always be a winner.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:19:09am

re: #85 teleskiguy

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:22:03am

Iowa…. Again….

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:28:22am

re: #98 Dave In Austin

I’m genuinely surprised he just hasn’t straight-up said the 14 words.

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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:41:19am

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:42:13am

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Iowa…. Again….

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:55:56am

So dump considers the Saudi claim credible…..

Now watch how the tough talking Cult Congess reacts to it…..

Remember, 2 days ago they were going to get to the “bottom of this”.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:58:47am

re: #103 Dave In Austin

The bottom is lined with dollar bills.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 6:59:20am
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dangerman  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:02:54am

so this whole saudi explanation is ludicrous and totally moranc

And Pat Robertson said that the U.S. should probably not make a big deal over one dead person, given that there is $100 billion on the line here. His exact words:

We’ve got an arms deal that everybody wanted a piece of…it’ll be a lot of jobs, a lot of money come to our coffers. It’s not something you want to blow up willy-nilly.

now forgetting the actual religiosity of it - you know ignoring a murder because there’s a lot of money to be made by building killing machines, my question to Mr. Roberston is this:

- is this deal so important that you’d voluntarily give up your own life?
if not, why not?

or is this calculus only valid because they targeted someone you dont care about?
because he wasnt killed because of any arms deal
AND he didn’t volunteer

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:06:48am

If you want to do some good revenge laughing, you need to go check out James Veitch (Google search for videos here: google.com). His schtick is to reply to spammers until they get tired of him. He’s also taken on a guy who refused to believe that he wasn’t the guy’s landlord.

Edit: he’s the guy who did the rubber ducks in the bathroom video.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:15:37am
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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:15:57am

I assume Jamal Kashoggi won’t get an Islamic funeral. That’s a real kick in the balls to the ones who loved him.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:19:56am
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:21:56am
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:24:53am

re: #106 dangerman

so this whole saudi explanation is ludicrous and totally moranc

And Pat Robertson said that the U.S. should probably not make a big deal over one dead person, given that there is $100 billion on the line here. His exact words:

now forgetting the actual religiosity of it - you know ignoring a murder because there’s a lot of money to be made by building killing machines, my question to Mr. Roberston is this:

- is this deal so important that you’d voluntarily give up your own life?
if not, why not?

or is this calculus only valid because they targeted someone you dont care about?
because he wasnt killed because of any arms deal
AND he didn’t volunteer

Robertson and his “church” are probably heavily invested in the arms industry.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:28:24am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:37:11am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:49:16am
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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:54:36am

Morning.

This whole Saudi thing is setting a new low isn’t it?

We have had dirty dealing with questionable leaders in sketchy countries before, but this is a first for America where the administration is being so blatant about it all.

Trump and gang’s whole take is so what, America benefits from this by having these big arms deals for jobs.

Allowing a killing of a journalist in our name basically. And the Republican machine seems just fine with this.

I don’t find myself so accepting.

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stpaulbear  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:54:47am

re: #58 goddamnedfrank

I’m 99.9% sure it’s not a real silencer / suppressor. Real suppressors almost always have end caps that you can usually see on one side, allowing you to take the internals out and clean the baffles. That’s just a solid chunk of aluminum that someone bored out, fluted for decoration and threaded on one end. You’d never flute a real silencer all the way to both ends like that because then you’d have to time the threads perfectly which is a pain in the ass for machinists. You could just go with rebated caps on the ends but this doesn’t pass the smell test, in part because no NFA makers marks are visible and the whole thing just looks mall ninja as fuck.

To my eyes, it looks like the ‘silencer’ doesn’t even align with the gun barrel. It kind of sags to the left a bit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:56:40am

re: #110 Belafon

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Fuck Pulpit Pimp Pat.

TAX THE CHURCHES!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2018 • 7:59:50am

re: #114 Barefoot Grin

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Shhh that gets in the way of the narrative. God Clarke is pathetic.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:00:35am

re: #115 Dave In Austin

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Unqualified? Pretty big words from the most unqualified person who ever got elected President.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:01:30am

re: #108 Belafon

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:03:17am

(I will get this later)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:05:44am
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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:09:34am

A wrestling fan show did a pretty good rundown on the Saudi mess, seriously. Saudi Arabia is tangled up in US business in ways that aren’t really obvious at first…

The Disturbing Truth Behind WWE Crown Jewel

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:14:07am
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CongoJack  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:28:12am

re: #124 Sufficient unto the day…

A wrestling fan show did a pretty good rundown on the Saudi mess, seriously. Saudi Arabia is tangled up in US business in ways that aren’t really obvious at first…

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Great video. Great breakdown. I could watch that guy all day (though I do not watch WWE - at least not since I was 16).

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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:28:57am

re: #125 jaunte

Are we sure it saves trillions? It looks like we spent $3.2 trillion or so on health care in 2016. So that seems mostly like a wash.

Then there’s the complicating factor that if Medicare for All works as a single payer system, a lot of people who currently work for health insurance companies are going to be out of work. And there will likely be people who have jobs that are one or two degrees of separation from the health insurance companies that end up out of work. I’d prefer a public option, with Medicare operating as a market participant rather than replacing the market

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stpaulbear  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:32:18am

Opinion | What do Republicans need to win? Selective memory loss.

With the Affordable Care Act hitting record support in a recent Fox News poll , and preexisting-conditions protections remaining overwhelmingly popular, congressional Republicans have recently sought inoculation by introducing various proposals they say would protect people with preexisting conditions. And they are vigorously scrubbing their records, according to archived versions of their websites reviewed by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Rep. Tom MacArthur’s (R-N.J.) site last year vowed: “Tom will work to repeal Obamacare, but won’t stop there.” Now? “Tom opposed his own party’s efforts at a speedy Obamacare repeal.”

Rep. Ted Budd (R-N.C.), in 2016, had a pledge: “I will do everything I can to repeal every word of Obamacare.” That passage is now repealed from his website.

Rep. Leonard Lance’s (R-N.J.) website, in 2016, boasted that “Lance is on the front-lines in the fight to repeal and replace Obamacare.” Now, that same passage has been rewritten: “Lance is leading the fight for real Health Care Reform.”

Their problem: Of the 73 incumbent House Republicans in competitive races, 67 voted at least once to eliminate Obamacare’s protections for those with preexisting conditions, according to an analysis by the liberal Center for American Progress Action Fund…

…Similar cases have been reported in California, Kansas, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Indiana, Montana and North Dakota. This raises a frightening epidemiological possibility: Selective memory loss is spreading, and it has become a necessary pre-condition to run as a Republican this year.

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Skip Intro  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:32:33am

re: #54 Ace-o-aces

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She has crazy eyes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:39:43am

re: #106 dangerman

so this whole saudi explanation is ludicrous and totally moranc

And Pat Robertson said that the U.S. should probably not make a big deal over one dead person, given that there is $100 billion on the line here. His exact words:

now forgetting the actual religiosity of it - you know ignoring a murder because there’s a lot of money to be made by building killing machines, my question to Mr. Roberston is this:

- is this deal so important that you’d voluntarily give up your own life?
if not, why not?

or is this calculus only valid because they targeted someone you dont care about?
because he wasnt killed because of any arms deal
AND he didn’t volunteer

The killing of one man doesn’t matter in the larger scheme of things, according to Rev. Robertson.

As I recall, the entire foundation of his religion is based on the killing of one man.

It would seem I can Christian better as an atheist than the Christian pastor. Who knew?

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:46:25am

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹

Cool, we can start a new religion based on Jamal Khashoggi.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:47:25am

re: #108 Belafon

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:51:00am

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

Robertson and his “church” are probably heavily invested in the arms industry.

When the blood diamond trade dries up you gotta make a buck somewhere.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:51:00am

re: #131 Belafon

Cool, we can start a new religion based on Jamal Khashoggi.

I’ll get the rights to making tiny little silver bone saws that have the attachment to be used on chains, necklaces and the like.

(Am I going to hell for saying this…it is just a joke?)

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:51:41am

re: #116 ObserverArt

Morning.

This whole Saudi thing is setting a new low isn’t it?

We have had dirty dealing with questionable leaders in sketchy countries before, but this is a first for America where the administration is being so blatant about it all.

Trump and gang’s whole take is so what, America benefits from this by having these big arms deals for jobs.

Allowing a killing of a journalist in our name basically. And the Republican machine seems just fine with this.

I don’t find myself so accepting.

There is no low. There is no floor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:54:39am

re: #134 ObserverArt

I’ll get the rights to making tiny little silver bone saws that have the attachment to be used on chains, necklaces and the like.

(Am I going to hell for saying this…it is just a joke?)

Well, Christians wear an execution device around their necks, put them in their churches, &c.

Had that execution occurred today, I presume their religious symbol would be an electric chair, or perhaps a syringe.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 20, 2018 • 8:57:44am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

Well, Christians wear an execution device around their necks, put them in their churches, &c.

Had that execution occurred today, I presume their religious symbol would be an electric chair, or perhaps a syringe.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:01:35am

re: #131 Belafon

Cool, we can start a new religion based on Jamal Khashoggi.

Freedom of the Press would be one of its tenets.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:02:33am

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Eventually Republicans will try to claim ACA as their own.

Which it originally was. The Heritage Foundation suggested it as their alternative to Hillary-care in the 90’s.

See also, Romney-care in Massachusetts.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:09:06am

re: #127 KGxvi

Are we sure it saves trillions? It looks like we spent $3.2 trillion or so on health care in 2016. So that seems mostly like a wash.

Then there’s the complicating factor that if Medicare for All works as a single payer system, a lot of people who currently work for health insurance companies are going to be out of work. And there will likely be people who have jobs that are one or two degrees of separation from the health insurance companies that end up out of work. I’d prefer a public option, with Medicare operating as a market participant rather than replacing the market

I’d prefer a patchwork of state-level plans, with federal oversight of their reciprocity agreements.

California might need 3 plans, NYC could partner with parts of New Jersey and Connecticut since there’s so many commuters (and upstate would have their own), the Dakotas and Nebraska would need a tri-state plan to have enough people to make it efficient, same for Wyoming/Montana and Oklahoma/Kansas.

Because health care needs aren’t the same everywhere. And 50 different plans would allow for whoever’s got the best ideas to provide proof of concept that the others could then copy. Laboratory of democracy and all.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:12:06am

re: #140 sagehen

So, some places don’t have heart attacks or child birth? The problem with our laboratory of democracy with health care is that some states will decide that minorities don’t need it. The laboratory has proven that it doesn’t work here.

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MsJ  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:15:51am
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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:23:28am

Everybody has heart attacks and childbirth.

But trauma centers only make sense in a few densely populated places. Utah has a ridiculously high percentage of non-smoking, non-drinking, outdoorsy-exercising types and their costs would be lower. Minnesota bases their public health system around the Mayo Clinic, but nobody else has a Mayo. Minnesota’s per-capita medicare claims are half of Texas’, because Texas is fee-for-service and doctors own the labs and imaging centers. West Virginia and Kentucky could do better with RV-sized clinics that move from small town to the next instead of regional medical centers that are difficult for people to get to. Alaska spends a lot more on transportation than other States.

Just like we don’t have a unified standardized national Fire Department — New York City’s fire department does a great job, San Bernardino County’s fire department does a great job, but they’d each be utter crap at each other’s jobs. Because their training, planning and equipment is designed for specific local needs.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:24:28am
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KGxvi  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:32:16am

re: #140 sagehen

I’d prefer a patchwork of state-level plans, with federal oversight of their reciprocity agreements.

California might need 3 plans, NYC could partner with parts of New Jersey and Connecticut since there’s so many commuters (and upstate would have their own), the Dakotas and Nebraska would need a tri-state plan to have enough people to make it efficient, same for Wyoming/Montana and Oklahoma/Kansas.

Because health care needs aren’t the same everywhere. And 50 different plans would allow for whoever’s got the best ideas to provide proof of concept that the others could then copy. Laboratory of democracy and all.

Nixon apparently wanted to replace Medicaid with state run health insurance plans. His plan also included an employer mandate. It’s strange to think how much more progressive the nation might be today if not for watergate

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:39:10am

re: #145 sagehen

Everybody has heart attacks and childbirth.

But trauma centers only make sense in a few densely populated places. [rest cut]

Why would all those agricultural workers in rural areas need trauma centers anyway. Agriculture is one of the highest causes of accidental trauma.

Guy in my town was crushed by one of those 3,000 pound rolls of hay a couple months ago. He’s still alive because we have a trauma center here in Scottsbluff (population 14,000).

“Sorry, dude, we’re going to need to take you to Denver, 220 miles away. Just hang on.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:41:58am

re: #46 goddamnedfrank

These mendacious boot lickers are fucking amazing.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:42:37am

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Why would all those agricultural workers in rural areas need trauma centers anyway. Agriculture is one of the highest causes of accidental trauma.

Guy in my town was crushed by one of those 3,000 pound rolls of hay a couple months ago. He’s still alive because we have a trauma center here in Scottsbluff (population 14,000).

“Sorry, dude, we’re going to need to take you to Denver, 220 miles away. Just hang on.”

The difference between a trauma center and a regular emergency room only matters if the EMTs with their truck full of gear can get to the patient within 10 minutes of the incident, and be at the hospital within 30 minutes of the incident. Is there any rural area where that can happen?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:42:42am

Suspect arrested after police find ‘detailed plan of attack’ for Kentucky schools (Lexington Herald-Leader)

A Lawrenceburg man was arrested after police found evidence that a “threat was credible and imminent” to Shelby and Anderson County schools, according to Kentucky State Police.

State police and the FBI responded Thursday to the Lawrenceburg residence of Dylan Jarrell, just a block away from Anderson County High School, when a New Jersey woman complained he had sent unsolicited, harassing messages to her on Facebook.

Jarrell, 20, admitted to sending the “racially motivated messages,” according to his arrest citation, and the FBI agent then asked about a past school shooting threat last May in Tennessee in which Jarrell had been a suspect. The suspect admitted to making the previous school threats, court records show.

After Jarrell gave consent for his phone to be examined, information was found on it that “pertained to threats of bodily harm against multiple persons at a school,” state police said in the arrest citation. It did not state which school was threatened.

Read more here: kentucky.com

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So, misogyny, racism, and guns. Not a good combination.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:46:27am

re: #145 sagehen

We have to accept that health care, like the fire department or the military, requires some inefficiencies, things that will sit around until they are needed. It will still be more effective than what we currently have.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:48:27am

re: #150 sagehen

Sounds like that’s what Anymouse just described.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:51:45am

re: #150 sagehen

The difference between a trauma center and a regular emergency room only matters if the EMTs with their truck full of gear can get to the patient within 10 minutes of the incident, and be at the hospital within 30 minutes of the incident. Is there any rural area where that can happen?

Here, nearly every county has at least one hospital, though they aren’t all equipped like a general hospital. They do have the facilities to stabilise a patient before they are sent along to a more advanced hospital (that is what happened in the man’s case here - the village EMT took him to the local hospital sixteen miles away, they flew him to Scottsbluff).

Part of the purpose of the ACA is to help keep rural hospitals from closing for just this reason. “Well, you rural people are on your own because we only will put trauma centres in major cities” isn’t very sympathetic. It is very profit-driven though.

If I got into a car accident in Chicago, there are probably several hospitals not far from the accident. (That said, Chicago traffic is so bad it might take me longer to get to a hospital than here.) If I get into a car accident here, there is only one hospital in my county.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:52:02am

re: #94 Shropshire Slasher

My new pet peeve is going to the market, and the person in front of me not putting their items on the belt…

If they have plastic bars that separate orders., Just put one down 1/4 from your end of the belt and start unloading your cart. They’ll get the idea.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:55:04am

re: #155 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If they have plastic bars that separate orders., Just put one down 1/4 from your end of the belt and start unloading your cart. They’ll get the idea.

Or you could use the plastic bar (they use wooden ones here, but same idea) as a cluebat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2018 • 9:55:30am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:00:09am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

Or you could use the plastic bar (they use wooden ones here, but same idea) as a cluebat.

They frown upon that where I live. Suddenly you’re the bad guy, when it was the person in front of you making trouble.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:01:19am

I can quantify that, at least from our current conservative government: zero.

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Nyet  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:06:55am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:09:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:14:11am

re: #160 Nyet

Serious amount of sealioning in that thread. Good luck with getting the Nazi-curious Twitter getting that person banned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:15:03am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:15:04am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:17:24am

Trump praises Ron DeSantis in Florida as a guy from Harvard and Yale but calls Stacey Abrams in Georgia, JD from Yale, unqualified. Hmmmm….

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:17:47am

My senator, Ben Sasse, complaining about civility in political discourse and both-siderising it, is really getting dragged on Twitter.

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:26:55am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

Part of the purpose of the ACA is to help keep rural hospitals from closing for just this reason. “Well, you rural people are on your own because we only will put trauma centres in major cities” isn’t very sympathetic. It is very profit-driven though.

A trauma center is a highly specialized “extra” that’s way more than an emergency room. It’s a few pieces of extra equipment, and a LOT of extra personnel with extra training. Los Angeles has hundreds of hospitals, hundreds of emergency rooms, but only 5 are trauma centers. They’re for the kinds of cases that need 4 surgeons and a dozen nurses working on the same patient at the same time.

A hospital that serves a city of 14,000 doesn’t have that kind of staffing. The case you mentioned is a “regular” emergency room case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:29:13am

moron

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:36:55am

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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moron

Almost certainly written by staff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:44:37am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

“We don’t need no Obamacare! We got a good hospital right here in town! What? It closed? Huh. So, where do we go now? But that’s 50 miles from here! Crap! Where was I? Oh, yeah! REPEAL OBAMACARE! NO SOCIALIZED MEDICINE

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:51:22am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2018 • 10:56:52am

re: #149 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

One of the things I keep observing is that we’re dealing with people that accept rituals and symbols that signify “Truth” as equivalent, even superior, to systematic and methodical ways of establishing “Truth” through observation and evidence.

The dangerous part is how often the former counterfeits the latter and there’s no pushback. Charlatans—fake scientists, fake pundits, snake oil sellers—infest the current “conservatism” because its ethos…affiliation and common identity is the highest form of validity…overlaps with the single most common and effective means of conning another person.

What we’re watching now is the international relations version of this, not far removed from the “reasoning” applied to police shootings. The perfunctory, hollow performance of transparency and accountability is the other side of the coin from establishing, through cultural channels, that the targeted individuals was guilty enough to deserve harm.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:07:35am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

[In Saturday Night Massacre 45 years ago tonight, Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus quit…]

Everybody looked like Steve Allen back then. Or Bill Bixby. All the adult white guys, anyway.

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dirkdigglerjr  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:11:40am

re: #74 wheat-dogg

If you want to see Haley Atwell in an truly amazing performance, check out the Be Right Back episode from Season 2 of Black Mirror. Domhnall Gleeson is terrific as well.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:16:34am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he gets his way, he won’t be able to show his face in public.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:17:22am

re: #168 sagehen

A trauma center is a highly specialized “extra” that’s way more than an emergency room. It’s a few pieces of extra equipment, and a LOT of extra personnel with extra training. Los Angeles has hundreds of hospitals, hundreds of emergency rooms, but only 5 are trauma centers. They’re for the kinds of cases that need 4 surgeons and a dozen nurses working on the same patient at the same time.

A hospital that serves a city of 14,000 doesn’t have that kind of staffing. The case you mentioned is a “regular” emergency room case.

Well, I might have them confused. The principal hospital in our area, the one in Scottsbluff, doesn’t just serve a city of 14,000. It serves the entire Panhandle and part of eastern Wyoming, which is over 90,000 people.

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freetoken  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:18:17am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

“anti-communism protesters” my ass.

They are just programmed haters. They don’t know communism from anything else.

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CongoJack  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:19:58am

re: #184 freetoken

“anti-communism protesters” my ass.

They are just programmed haters. They don’t know communism from anything else.

Agreed… that was just their token word of the day to yell at people.

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ObserverArt  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:22:24am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Enquirer ✔
@Enquirer
‘Get out of here’: Sen. Mitch McConnell confronted by customers at Louisville restaurant dlvr.it

1:29 PM - Oct 20, 2018

I guess this means Mitch is going to be going off on liberal mobs even more now.

Now he has his own very scary and dangerous-to-ordinary-Americans Mob Attack to tout.

The late commercials against Sherrod Brown for Governor here in Ohio are saying Brown was one of THE LOUDEST voices against Kavanaugh and he is an ANGRY LEADER of RADICAL LEFTISTS that doesn’t want to Make America Great Again.

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dangerman  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:25:29am

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Why would all those agricultural workers in rural areas need trauma centers anyway. Agriculture is one of the highest causes of accidental trauma.

Guy in my town was crushed by one of those 3,000 pound rolls of hay a couple months ago. He’s still alive because we have a trauma center here in Scottsbluff (population 14,000).

“Sorry, dude, we’re going to need to take you to Denver, 220 miles away. Just hang on.”

Otoh
Miami and the east coast is no slouch
Don’t we have hospitals clinics specialists cardio pulmonologists?
Even a Mayo clinic in Jacksonville that treats MAC

Nevertheless were flying to Denver for the third time this year because national Jewish health is the expert in lung diseases

How many of those do we need? I’d say more than one would be good and still it’s workable now

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:27:29am
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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:30:24am

If Soros is buying cars to give all the immigrants, shouldn’t he get credit for creating auto-worker jobs?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:32:29am

Hmmmmmmm…. Okay, but if he’s so inexperienced and all, WHY IS HE RUNNING THE GODDAM COUNTRY?!?

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:32:41am

re: #188 jaunte

Funny what you can get away with when you have a shit ton of money.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:34:26am

Two charged with misdemeanor violation of local curfew, two charged with misdemeanor open carry & curfew violation

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:35:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:36:53am

re: #187 dangerman

Otoh
Miami and the east coast is no slouch
Don’t we have hospitals clinics specialists cardio pulmonologists?
Even a Mayo clinic in Jacksonville that treats MAC

Nevertheless were flying to Denver for the third time this year because national Jewish health is the expert in lung diseases

How many of those do we need? I’d say more than one would be good and still it’s workable now

How many? I can’t say. The nearest airport to me is Denver, so air travel isn’t much help.

Denver is one-quarter of the distance to Chicago.

Surprise:

High School Gun Humpers’ Walkout Was Astroturf Operation, Big Surprise (Wonkette, more at the link):

Remember how the awesome teens from Parkland, Florida, were being derided as mindless dupes of the Liberal gun grabbers, or maybe even crisis actors deployed by the Deep State? Kids like Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg clearly couldn’t have mobilized a giant school walkout or a national protest on their own, so obviously, sinister forces had paid them. Of course, there was no proof of anything like that (although, yes, national groups did join in after the kids got the ball rolling). Then in May, a few wingnut teens held their very own “Stand Up for the Second” (Amendment) demonstrations, and rightwing media cooed about all the brave kids who dared to defy the commie brats (who were, again, all tools of Big Liberalism anyway). Big surprise: the “Stand Up for the Second” thing was pretty much all scripted by the “Tea Party Patriots” group, as documented by a cache of badly-secured online documents uncovered by an internet security firm this week.

The trove of documents was found in an “Amazon S3 storage bucket” by security company UpGuard, which let the Tea Party crowd know it had left a couple gigabytes of data — including its phone contact list — out on the interwebs without any security or password. That was very nice of the cybersecurity folks, who detailed the find on their blog. The kids at Gizmodo also bring us a bunch of fun details from the astroturfed pro-gun marches, which were covered by a surprising number of media outlets as it they were all the brainchild of one motivated gun-loving teen with a great idea.

(with screen shots of the documents)

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Brian J.  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:41:16am

As a reminder that the Democrats have to deal with attacks on both flanks, guess who else is back!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:41:58am

Search engine targeted advert algorithm fail:

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:44:44am

re: #193 jaunte

Original tweet:

[Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the U.S. is quickly approaching “a moment of crisis” because of the “record number of migrants” spilling into the country ]

Reply tweet:

[Pure lies. Our country needs MORE migrants. Our ability to maintain a growing, competitive economy depends on it.

This ignorant fear mongering is going to have real, longterm, detrimental impact.]

Also, I believe that ‘record number’ is a record LOW number. Which makes that reply twice as meaningful, by my calculations.

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jaunte  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:47:25am
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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:51:39am
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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:52:05am

re: #195 Brian J.

As a reminder that the Democrats have to deal with attacks on both flanks, guess who else is back!

[Embedded content]

Ben Jealous — Maryland
Stacy Abrams — Georgia
Andrew Gillum — Florida

I’m sure they’re all thrilled to know they have the support of South Carolina BernieBros.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:54:02am
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:56:01am
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 11:57:54am

re: #195 Brian J.

Bernie is being used in attacks here in Texas, so I can understand what they are saying. Let the local populists be LOCAL populists, Bernie.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:00:18pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

As it should anyway, but if they are moving that far, businesses should spread them out to other, more affordable states.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:02:52pm
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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:10:59pm

re: #193 jaunte

“What’s the crisis?”
“Oh, you know, whites won’t be in charge.”
“You say that as if it’s a bad thing.”

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:13:29pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Goofy can’t compete with Dopey.

[I always knew I could make this comment on a political blog one day.]

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:14:26pm

Well, my wife just went to check our MegaMillions ticket from yesterday. While the jackpot rolled over, there are lesser prizes that would make us comfortably wealthy if we won one of them.

If I disappear you’ll know we won a million dollars and went to Lincoln to claim the money.

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wrenchwench  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:17:22pm

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹

[…OK he’s dead and we did it, but it was only because a 1 vs. 15 fight broke out]

A fistfight broke out, so we had to disarm him….then he died. Who knew?

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sagehen  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:22:19pm

re: #206 Belafon

“What’s the crisis?”
“Oh, you know, whites won’t be in charge.”
“You say that as if it’s a bad thing.”

[Embedded content]

I remain convinced that the ever-expanding definition of “white” will keep whites in the majority.

Spain is a European country; and a significant percentage of Hispanics are every bit as white as the descendants of Italian immigrants, or Irish, or Polish or Dutch or German or Russian or Swedish or Greek…

Today’s census categories include non-Hispanic white, non-Hispanic black, and Hispanic. Twenty years from now, people currently classified “Hispanic”’ will be either black, white or mestizo. Voila! Bunches more white people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:22:54pm

::P Well, our ticket was a dud. On five lines we had exactly one number (70). So no trip to Lincoln.

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jeffreyw  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:36:33pm

re: #208 Anymouse 🌹

Well, my wife just went to check our MegaMillions ticket from yesterday. While the jackpot rolled over, there are lesser prizes that would make us comfortably wealthy if we won one of them.

If I disappear you’ll know we won a million dollars and went to Lincoln to claim the money.

Say hi to Ed Pegram on the way. We go way back.

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BigPapa  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:38:25pm

While the rest of us worry about the fast moving slide into fascism and journalists being murdered by states, the Usual Suspects are getting their minions worked up about brown people. The replies are horrendous.

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Belafon  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:48:13pm

re: #210 sagehen

My step-niece and nephews have a Hispanic father (white mother), and it shows for one of the boys pretty clearly, and there are hints in the girl. I think, especially because of the skin color, that it won’t be a uniform acceptance. I also heard that that was part of Bush2’s push, to bring the Hispanic community into the conservative one, but Hispanics refused t change their culture to comply with conservative white demands.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:52:23pm

re: #213 BigPapa

While the rest of us worry about the fast moving slide into fascism and journalists being murdered by states, the Usual Suspects are getting their minions worked up about brown people. The replies are horrendous.

reuters.com

According to Reuters, the numbers of people involved were “hundreds.” Hardly an invasion (but “invasion” has been used all my life by conservatives to describe anything from immigrants to asylum seekers). The article also notes the Mexican police forces actually didn’t let them cross the bridge.

Mexico is also processing asylum claims from those trying to enter Mexico. Asylum in Mexico is hardly an invasion of the USA (or Mexico).

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 20, 2018 • 12:57:31pm

re: #210 sagehen

“White” isn’t constructed like other racial categories, precisely because of what you describe. White is intentionally vague and shifting, because it’s creating by sifting through history (and geography) to claim that most of the “good” stuff is the product of one group of people, such that there’s accrued collective merit but no collective guilt. People lose their shares of whiteness…take, for example, any version of the “white trash” mythos…and thus their disqualifying behavior becomes nonwhite. Lots of people get provisional whiteness—look at the standards of being assimilated, or respectable—but are kept liminal as long as they perform, but then get ejected if they question the premise of accrued collective merit.

The whole thing works like a pyramid scheme.

Same with “Western civilization”—it’s a curation such that people in the present can claim disparate elements of the past. So there’s basically a story in which all the good stuff is done a lineage of people, and if they do bad stuff it’s less important that the good stuff and anyone *other* matters less and their achievements don’t matter and their bad traits are damning.

It’s an endless No True Scotsman gambit, while the rest of racial identity—all versions of nonwhite—condemn the nonwhite individual by assigning them collective guilt, collective flaws, and disenfranchising them from claiming continuity with the “good parts” of history.

Hence the shit that happens every Columbus Day. Colon is the perfect compression of how whiteness claims to “good stuff” while aggressively refusing to acknowledge the accompanying bad…but then makes American natives collectively guilty (across two continents) such that the specific events on Hispaniola are unimportant.

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Alephnaught  Oct 20, 2018 • 1:06:09pm

re: #54 Ace-o-aces

Am I wrong?

I’m no expert myself, but even I can see there’s definitely a problem in aiming accurately: never mind that the silencer is longer than the gun- it’s clearly attached to the gun at a wonky angle!


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