Another Astounding Tiny Desk Concert: Alfredo Rodríguez Trio [VIDEO]

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Oct. 18, 2018 | Felix Contreras — Cuban pianist Alfredo Rodríguez gave our office audience a very quick lesson on why pianists from that island nation are so impressive: they treat the piano as the percussion instrument it is. Rodríguez immediately let fly with an intense flurry of notes that were as melodic as they were rhythmic.

The mash up of European lyricism and Afro-Cuban percussion is at the heart of the Cuban piano tradition and it is very present in the first song. It wasn’t long before Rodríguez dug deep into rapid-fire syncopation along with drummer Michael Olivera and guitarist/ bassist Munir Hossn.

Iconic music producer/composer Quincy Jones heard Rodríguez during a performance at a European jazz festival and took him under this wing, eventually signing him to Jones’ management company. When you listen to the expansive and lyrical exploration of the second song in this Tiny Desk set, “Bloom,” it’s easy to hear what captured Jones’ attention.

The West Africa-based Yoruba spiritual tradition, commonly known as Santeria, infuses so much of Cuban daily life in music and Rodríguez closes with his take on the music dedicated to the Orisha Yemaya, the goddess of the ocean and all waters. The song’s melody is a derivation of the song associated to Yemaya and the Tiny Desk trio explores the rhythms of the melody, up to and including the sing-along at the end.

Every exposure to Cuban music presents an opportunity to walk alongside historical music figures and Santeria spirits alike. This performance is no exception. Watching these three performances repeatedly reveals new musical turns that slowly reveal how Alfredo Rodríguez is making a name for himself, alongside two incredibly talented, like-minded band mates.

Set List
“Dawn”
“Bloom”
“Yemaya”

Credits
Producers: Felix Contreras, CJ Riculan; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Kaylee Domzalski, CJ Riculan; Production Assistant: Brie Martin; Photo: Cameron Pollack/NPR

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1
teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:04:37pm

Some sloppy CYA from Twitter.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:15:18pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Someday, somewhere, a civil suit against Twitter will be won when it it shown they did not act in a timely and responsible manner to remove a bad actor.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:16:41pm

I wasn’t aware you could use trolling commentary in a court filing.

Russian Firm Says Mueller Can’t Prove It Meddled in Election (Courthouse News Service)

Concord Management, the Russian company charged by Special Counsel Robert Mueller with interfering in the 2016 election, filed a a biting response to the prosecutor’s allegations Thursday, claiming Mueller has “mind-bendingly” failed to prove the company willfully intended to defraud the United States.

That’s not the trolling part, though. This is:

[Eric] Dubelier, of the Reed Smith law firm, wrote: “The special counsel’s retort has been that he was not required to charge willfulness because he did not charge violations of [the Federal Election Campaign Act or the Foreign Agent Registration Act.] Now in mind-bending, intergalactic, whiplash fashion, he says for the first time, I did, I did, I charged violations of FECA and FARA.”

In a footnote which stands out in the filing, Dubelier instructs the court to consider the “I did, I did” line to sound “a lot like I did, I did I taw a puddy tat. (Tweetie, 1948.)” [sic]

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:19:21pm

The caravan disappeared overnight. This was found at the border:

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:23:33pm

re: #2 freetoken

Someday, somewhere, a civil suit against Twitter will be won when it it shown they did not act in a timely and responsible manner to remove a bad actor.

Hard to sue ‘em if you’re dead.

A$ long a$ Twitter benefit$ from people who $pend time writing there and ¢ontinue to make ex¢u$e$ for why they “have to be on Twitter” (and Fa¢eborg), Twitter will never be hurt by it.

Say Twitter gets hit with a payout of $50,000,000 or something. They slug it out in the courts because of deep pockets, getting the payout reduced. Or they settle out of court.

Their own rules say they are the sole arbiters of what constitutes a violation of their terms. The game is rigged at Twitter, and until people wise up and leave the platform, they will continue just as they are, defending Nazis and banning photos of women’s nipples as inappropriate.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:25:28pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:26:02pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The caravan disappeared overnight. This was found at the border:

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It should be December before the Trojan Pinata reaches the border

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:30:22pm

Looks Like ‘Bomb Stuff’ Suspect Is Trump MAGA Idiot Of Our Dreams! (Wonkette)

That is quite a van! Indeed it is the van of literally every crazy Trump MAGA idiot who shows up to a Trump MAGA idiot rally. Zoom in and look at all the sniper targets we mean surveyor’s marks! Check out the stickers that almost exactly mirror the things Donald Trump tweets! Also he is into soccer!

Look, we know liberals are bad too, as they literally pry the chicken fingers out of Sarah Huckabee Sanders’s cold dead hands and call Ted Cruz a piece of shit in restaurants, but this appears to be the van of a biiiiiiiig Trump supporter who TRIED TO ASSASSINATE TWO FORMER PRESIDENTS AND A BUNCH OF FORMER INTELLIGENCE CHIEFS AND SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN AND ROBERT DE NIRO.

The fact he appears not to have attempted to bomb them very well is just more evidence that he’s an average Trump supporter.

(more)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:30:56pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Some sloppy CYA from Twitter.

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Interesting Times  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:31:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:33:51pm

Things heating up in Nebraska for the election:

Early Vote Requests for 10/26
Democrats: 4,212
Nonpartisan: 1,531
Republicans: 5,502
Unknown: 102
Total People: 11,347

Early Vote Requests to date:
Democrats: 66,096
Nonpartisan: 21,353
Republican: 76,215
Unknown: 865
Total People: 164,529

I wonder how those non-partisan votes are breaking, because they could be the difference between business as usual here and a blue wave across the High Plains.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:34:30pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:39:34pm
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:40:30pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Some sloppy CYA from Twitter.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:41:04pm

re: #13 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Archangelus  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:42:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:42:16pm

My wife got an E-mail from Penzey’s Spices. A conservative was writing to them, objecting to the stickers they’re sending out with orders imprinted “I will vote 11.6.18” and cards which say “To cook is to care, to care is to vote.” (They are also promoting a chili powder freebie with a $5 order.)

Someone posted this on our Facebook page and I believe it is worth sharing with you:

“How incredibly biased your company is. I hope your conservative customers take a hard look at what you are really selling. You certainly do not want America to be great again. I am a proud Republican conservative and think our great president is making America great again!”

Penzey’s actually flamed back (behind the hide bar because it’s kind of long). Wow. That is some serious flamage.

Click to Reveal

And first off, let me say thanks for writing, to you and every other writer of the 30-40,000 comments I’ve read along these lines in the last two years. And yes, we are biased, biased in favor of the kindness at the heart of cooking. Through cooking we learn that when we take time to share kindness and care for those around us, the world becomes a better place. There was a time when this kindness was at home in both political parties. For now, at least, those days are past. Reading all these emails has been an education. At this point my response is:

“If you weren’t hurting anyone, you could believe whatever you wish and, for the most part, no one would say anything. But you are hurting people by what your support is keeping in power. Your support of racism, environmental devastation and the devaluation of our standing in the world is causing real harm not only to all of us right now, but to future generations as well.

“I understand how the realities our country is facing have been kept from you, and that your thoughts are no longer entirely your own. Doesn’t it seem odd to you how your mind can sincerely believe celebrities and business people should stay out of politics while at the very same time being equally sincerely excited about your celebrity businessman president? And I have no doubt that you love this country, but doesn’t it somewhere deep down bother you that we are turning our allies against us while empowering and enriching those who would do us harm?

“Somewhere along the way you gave up something inside you of who you are, something so fundamental to the functioning of democracy. Where once you would have held deep distrust for any candidate keeping their tax returns hidden, you came to see the hiding of the truth as admirable. Where once you saw loyalty as key to character, now it sure seems you are totally fine with third spouses, playboy models, and adult industry workers for all. I’ve known and enjoyed conservatives all my life, and I have to be honest with you and say this just does not sound like you.
“Please wake up. Your country needs you.”

The good news is that a whole lot of people who were supporting all of this just a short while ago are now waking up and rejecting the personality cult the Republican Party has become and are instead finding their own path.
We’ve also seen posted recently:

“I didn’t choose to leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party chose to leave me.”
“I, and the rest of my family, were born and bred Republicans. Donated $$, canvased for votes (both door-to-door and by phone), worked the polls…. And THIS current Republican Party in no way resembles the party we supported. I really can’t view it as Republican.”

“I am a lifelong Republican, and have never been more embarrassed to say so. I am working diligently in my state of NH to get Democrats elected!”
“Don’t let the label you have slapped on yourself not reflect the truth of what you believe. I grew up in a Republican family, and heck, even my mom isn’t Republican anymore.”

The even better news is, if you choose to make the change, from everything we’ve seen, a whole lot of people will be really-really happy that you did and they will welcome you with wide open arms. As much as the President himself is pushing the false notion that those who oppose him are driven by hate and anger, this simply isn’t true. Hate doesn’t drive people to work for transgender rights, racial equality, or the welcoming of asylum seekers. Just the opposite really.

For anyone who has come around to realizing supporting the President and those enabling him was a mistake but are now worried about how they will be treated if they come out and make the change, please don’t be. Really kind people are going to be very happy for you. Right now it’s not about where you have been so much as about where you’ve arrived. And now’s a good time to arrive at a good place. I think you will find the food tasty here, too. Not a lot of lonely desktop taco salads and buckets of deep-fried fast food. A big part of the fun in celebrating all the cultures that actually make America great is the Cooks you meet and the foods they share. Dig in!

The election is now right around the corner. As much as we believe every night is a good night to cook, and there’s nothing better to do with your time than cooking, we’re good with re-heating something Tuesday 11.6.18 to give you time to get out to vote. With that in mind, and understanding some foods are even more tasty after a day or even two, through this weekend we are offering you your choice of a couple of really good Chili Powders Free with just a $5 purchase.

Our Chili 3000 is a great Chili Powder with a bright and exciting traditional flavor that is all you have come to expect Chili to be. Chili 9000 takes it one step further and hints at the world of Chili flavor that is out there, but is also very much at home in America where we value all the cultures that make us who we are. Tasty stuff. Cook Chili Sunday 11.4. Refrigerate. Eat Chili Tuesday 11.6. Save time to vote!
To get your choice of half-cup $7+ value Chili, bring in this email or the coupon below to one of our stores and spend $5. Online at penzeys.com, once you’ve reached $5 in spending, enter 11455C in the apply code box at checkout for Chili 3000 or 11950C for Chili 9000. There’s no need to place the Chili in your basket, the codes will do that for you and for free!

And our full-size I Will Vote 11.6.18 refrigerator/bumper stickers are starting to be in short supply, but we do still have a quantity of the smaller lapel-sized stickers. These stickers are great for handing out while talking about the value in voting and just how important this election is. If you are part of an organized Get Out the Vote effort and think a bunch of these stickers would help, let us know at editor@penzeys.com. And yes, of course, these are available to whatever side you are on. Get Out the Vote is for everyone. Sooner or later the Republican Party is going to become something different. It would be good to have Cooks involved in what that is to be. Sooner rather than later please.

Thanks for being Cooks,
Bill
bill@penzeys.com

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MsJ  Oct 26, 2018 • 7:45:57pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Some sloppy CYA from Twitter.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:01:22pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:04:15pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

I like dealing with Penzey’s!

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dangerman  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:05:47pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

My wife got an E-mail from Penzey’s Spices. A conservative was writing to them, objecting to the stickers they’re sending out with orders imprinted “I will vote 11.6.18” and cards which say “To cook is to care, to care is to vote.” (They are also promoting a chili powder freebie with a $5 order.)

Penzey’s actually flamed back (behind the hide bar because it’s kind of long). Wow. That is some serious flamage.

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How does “remember to vote” turn into bias?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:06:44pm

re: #19 Kragar

“Civility” means deference, which is why incivility merits disproportionate, and ultimately physical, retaliation.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:08:53pm
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Jason Munro  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:27:19pm

Current headline at Breitbart:

Donald Trump Thunders at Media for Trying to Smear His Supporters after Bomb Scares

This is brilliant. You got your god king Trump “thundering”, you got your evil media “smearing”, and as an extra you get to downplay actual fucking bombs being sent in the mail as “scares”.

It’s hard to stomach the comment section there, though I will say it is pretty spot on in identifying the raw version of the talking points that will shortly emerge through hate radio and blogs (and these days onto major media and the WH).

THE STIKERS ARE TWO NUE!1! for example. I guess it never occurred to these folks that someone capable of sending fucking pipe bombs to 12 people might also be fanatical about the quality of his vehicular window decorations.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:27:29pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹

I like dealing with Penzey’s!

Wonkette did an article about them last year. My wife had never heard of them, and usually rolls her eyes at Wonkette. They also had some recipes from Penzey’s in the article to try, which piqued my wife’s interest, so she spent about $200 on spices.

Penzey’s usually uses UPS for shipping, but they were quite willing to use the Post Office when she wrote them. Now she’s hooked.

Additionally, every time she orders something from them, they send recipe cards of other things to try. Eating around here is now like a round-the-world gastronomic tour.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:31:01pm

Seems about right, considering all the Trump swag the guy had:

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fern01  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:32:26pm

Could it just be that the US political campaigns - like no others in the world - just last too long. Used to be there were a few months campaign free between elections, but because there is no other way for trump to address those who would abuse their neighbors, he started campaigning the day after he was elected.

Where I live, election campaigns run for 4 - 6 weeks. Think of all the money people could spend on much more worthwhile things if they weren’t giving to political campaigns 24/7

I am rather proud to say - I have never donated cash to a political campaign, nor felt the need to do so - our government funding for same is much more than needed. (I have worked for a political campaign - very different to donating cash).

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:38:09pm

These people are fucking morons, and they’ll never be reached.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:38:40pm

Guy with the Nixon tattoo on his back says what?

Alex Jones, Roger Stone Theorize Bomb Threat Suspect Cesar Sayoc Is a ‘Patsy’

On a side note, that flashing menu item on your Website is not really a good thing, Newsweek. You know, you have a guy there who writes for you with photosensitive epilepsy. I assume you have others who read your site with that (hint, me).

It would really be nice if you got that flashing letter N off your site k, tnx.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:43:40pm

re: #27 fern01

Could it just be that the US political campaigns - like no others in the world - just last too long. Used to be there were a few months campaign free between elections, but because there is no other way for trump to address those who would abuse their neighbors, he started campaigning the day after he was elected.

Bannon set that up. By filing for reëlection the same day he was inaugurated (never done before in the history of the country), it allowed him certain protections under campaign finance laws. It also set the stage for his never-ending Nuremberg rallies, since he could combine official visits with campaigning and the taxpayers are on the hook for it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:46:01pm

There’s a few jam band Lizards out there. Band called Spafford, from Prescott, AZ, is streaming their show in Boulder tonight… for free!

Saw them open for The Disco Biscuits at Red Rocks this summer, they’re good!

They’re just getting started.

Spafford Live from Boulder, CO 10/26/18

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:46:24pm

“….As I was parking my car, I could hear a woman’s voice on a loudspeaker, playing on a loop that stated something like this (paraphrasing the very first sentence because I didn’t catch it on audio recording).

“President Trump values the first amendment, just as much as he values the second amendment. This is a private event paid for and hosted by ‘Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.’ and you came to hear the President. To accommodate the right to free speech and peaceful assembly while securing an orderly rally, we have provided a secure area outside the gates for all protestors and we ask anyone choosing to demonstrate to please exit to that secure area. Despite this accommodation some individuals may seek to disrupt our patriotic event and President Trump needs YOUR help in maintaining a peaceful atmosphere at all times. If a protest starts near you please do not in any way touch or harm a protestor. Please notify law enforcement officers of the location of the protestor by holding a rally sign over your head and chanting “Trump! Trump! Trump!” Encourage others around you to do the same until officers can remove the protestor from the rally. We’re glad you are here for this special occasion with Donald Trump. Thank you for helping us make America great again!” Her matter of fact instructions fade into the first notes of “Freebird” at top volume. My break with reality begins, and I feel actual chills in this new dystopia.

The second time I heard the looped instructions in the lilting woman’s voice, I was in line, and became aware of everyone around me surveying each other, looking for any signs of “otherness” and ready to call anyone out for thinking or speaking differently.

This was encouraged mob mentality. Groupthink at its worst. Before even entering the arena, we were being asked to join Trump’s army of peer pressure, intolerance and sameness. That initial shock of just how deep his need for control runs still sends shivers down my spine.”

“Burn the witch!”

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 8:46:38pm

re: #27 fern01

They are. It’s a product of the government not funding campaigns. And I’d love to change it. But until then, we have to play the game or we lose. What we can do is what Democrats have done this year, which is getting LOTS of small donations.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:06:32pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:10:29pm

re: #34 jaunte

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No worries, he’ll portray himself as the “hero” of this, having “scared” Mexico into stopping the caravan. And that Democrats were ready to welcome them with open arms.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:12:19pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

If this takes those people off the highway, Fox will lose their scary pictures.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:13:17pm

re: #36 jaunte

If this takes those people off the highway, Fox will lose their scary pictures.

Haven’t you heard? More caravans are forming!

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fern01  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:14:34pm

re: #32 jaunte

That is a depressing read - probably true but certainly depressing - added to by the voting machines in Texas that are turning votes for Beto into votes for Cruz..

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fern01  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:17:00pm

re: #33 Belafon

They are. It’s a product of the government not funding campaigns. And I’d love to change it. But until then, we have to play the game or we lose. What we can do is what Democrats have done this year, which is getting LOTS of small donations.

I know you have to do it - and I am so amazed by how much those small donations count - but it is an awful way to have to run elections.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:17:46pm

re: #32 jaunte

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“Burn the witch!”

But remember, folks, we’re the “sheeple” who are unthinking and marching in lockstep.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:19:12pm

re: #36 jaunte

If this takes those people off the highway, Fox will lose their scary pictures.

How would that stop them from reusing the old ones? Like they are above lying to keep the fear up.

If all else fails a report of someone black looking menacing while voting will do the trick for a news cycle or two. Maybe a report of a Black Panther sighting. Scary…

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:22:05pm

Early for music, but I’m going to throw up a couple of songs by bands you may have never heard of but may have a weird relevance to today. The first, by Shivaree:

Shivaree - Goodnight Moon

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:23:53pm
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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:29:05pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

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Man, this guy is one committed “crisis actor.” I mean he was playing this role for years.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:30:55pm

All that’s missing now is a selfie of him assembling the bombs. But even that won’t be enough to convince ANY Trumper.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:31:49pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

I deleted and reposted the tweet because I didn’t see that Apple’s new and “improved” Screenshot app somehow put the goddamned word “screenshot” in my mother-fucking screenshot.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:33:40pm

You know, when I opined this morning that the wingnuts would argue that this guy was either a plant or falsely charged, a part of me thought that that might actually be a step too far.

Which goes to show I still have way too much faith in humanity.

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jaunte  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:34:09pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:34:56pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

Baby making music.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:36:01pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Baby making music.

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Great tune.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:38:03pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:38:34pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Very good cover!

I think I might travel to Denver and see these guys tomorrow night at the Ogden Theater.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:40:15pm
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:42:19pm

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Kurt really meant no librul, the real cause of these bombs. //

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:43:45pm
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:44:53pm

re: #34 jaunte

“Mexico will ship them to America after we stop caring!”

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:45:43pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

No worries, he’ll portray himself as the “hero” of this, having “scared” Mexico into stopping the caravan. And that Democrats were ready to welcome them with open arms.

And so are a lot of other people.

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Kragar  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:47:36pm
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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:49:05pm

re: #34 jaunte

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:51:47pm

It might be the frenchy mouth-hole wine talking but this thread blew my fucking mind!

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 9:57:01pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

It might be the frenchy mouth-hole wine talking but this thread blew my fucking mind!

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It’s true. They bred all flavor out of those apples

Dog bless Fujis, and Granny Smith’s.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:02:34pm

Jeez, bottom of the twelfth at Chavez Ravine.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:06:52pm

re: #61 austin_blue

It’s true. They bred all flavor out of those apples

Dog bless Fujis, and Granny Smith’s.

I prefer nashi (Japanese for what Americans call “Asian pears”.) Much superior in flavor.

However, the problem in the US is that the fruit is picked way too early, to keep it from being damaged during shipment. So Americans end up with a rather tasteless, hard fruit, and not the juicy delicious fruit that ripe-on-the-tree brings.

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retired cynic  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:08:03pm

re: #63 freetoken

That is true of a lot of produce.

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Belafon  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:10:03pm

re: #62 austin_blue

Jeez, bottom of the twelfth at Chavez Ravine.

Heath Hembree strikes out Chris Taylor swinging on a 3-2 curveball, pumps his fist and we go to the 12th. In case you’re wondering: The longest World Series game is 14 innings, done three times — 2015 Game 1 (Mets-Royals), 2005 Game 3 (Astros-White Sox) and 1916 Game 2 (Red Sox- Robins … aka Dodgers).

espn.com

Silly stats time

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:19:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:21:52pm

Hmmm….
Sure sounds like a Dana Loesch inspired gun humper

“… Officials say a black man said he was working at the voting location when he saw the armed man in the parking lot with a camera taking pictures or recording the polling location. Police say he approached the campaign worker, and began hurling racial slurs, according to a report from CMPD.

The campaign worker said the armed man threatened to assault him before lifting his shirt and displaying a handgun which was in a holster on his belt. He told police the armed man never assaulted him or attempted to remove the handgun from the holster. …”

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:22:45pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

Second set is just getting started.

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freetoken  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:28:21pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:32:08pm
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freetoken  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:36:55pm

Just like his hero Trump, bomber wanted to be in the pro-wrestling biz:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:38:17pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:45:01pm

Bottom of the 13th, 2 outs, game now tied.

This thing may never end

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:46:26pm

re: #63 freetoken

I prefer nashi (Japanese for what Americans call “Asian pears”.) Much superior in flavor.

However, the problem in the US is that the fruit is picked way too early, to keep it from being damaged during shipment. So Americans end up with a rather tasteless, hard fruit, and not the juicy delicious fruit that ripe-on-the-tree brings.

I love nashi. My local sushi house (Uchi) uses it in a couple of fusion dishes (famously, Machi Kure). The chef, Tyson Cole has got a James Beard award up on the wall.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:46:36pm

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Bottom of the 13th, 2 outs, game now tied.

This thing may never end

MST3K - END! END!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:49:22pm

God. The only thing worse than watching a baseball game is watching a baseball game and a half.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:50:16pm

On to the 14th

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:50:18pm

14th inning. Sheesh.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:50:21pm

Canada’s PM has a slightly different take on the UN than the Yank President.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:51:40pm

“Baseball has no time limit: we don’t know when it’s gonna end - might have extra innings. Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we’ve got to go to sudden death.”

-George Carlin

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:51:49pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

God. The only thing worse than watching a baseball game is watching a baseball game and a half.

This isn’t a game, this is torture.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:53:07pm

Isn’t it like, almost two in the morning on the east coast? At least it’s Saturday morning.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:54:26pm

Okay, here’s the second song from a band you may have never heard of but is kinda cool.

The video sucks. Don’t watch it, but turn up the volume on the song:

Shriekback - Nemesis

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 10:55:47pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

Isn’t it like, almost two in the morning on the east coast? At least it’s Saturday morning.

Well, they are playing in LA.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:01:09pm

Bottom of the 14th. Trolley Dodgers up. Tied.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:05:08pm

re: #85 austin_blue

Bottom of the 14th. Trolley Dodgers up. Tied.

I ate 5 hours ago.
I’m hungry

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:07:26pm

Silicon Valley is run but a bunch of dudes who feverishly read Ayn Rand as a child and never grew up.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:09:11pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I ate 5 hours ago.
I’m hungry

Grab a snack, it’s going to the 15th inning.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:12:29pm

Tony Joe White - Boom Boom

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:19:30pm

re: #88 austin_blue

Grab a snack, it’s going to the 15th inning.

cinnamon and raisin bagel with cream cheese

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:20:17pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

cinnamon and raisin bagel with cream cheese

What, no lox and capers?

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:21:40pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

What, no lox and capers?

On a sweet bagel? Eew…

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:23:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:26:39pm

re: #92 austin_blue

On a sweet bagel? Eew…

OK, come the 20th inning I’ll use butter on the next one

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:28:05pm

re: #92 austin_blue

On a sweet bagel? Eew…

It’s the Cynthia Nixon Special!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:28:53pm

re: #61 austin_blue

It’s true. They bred all flavor out of those apples

Dog bless Fujis, and Granny Smith’s.

I thought it was just that we got nothing but the culls here in Washington and they shipped the good ones out-of-state for more money. You learn something new every day.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:34:05pm

Damn. So close.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:34:19pm

re: #61 austin_blue

It’s true. They bred all flavor out of those apples

Dog bless Fujis, and Granny Smith’s.

The Older Boy inexplicably likes Red Delicious. Don’t know why.

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:37:20pm

15 innings. About to go to 16. Fuckin’ fuck.

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ckkatz  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:37:30pm

re: #82 teleskiguy

Isn’t it like, almost two in the morning on the east coast? At least it’s Saturday morning.

2:35 AM, and I finally caught up on the thread. And the cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese sounds great. I may head downstairs and make one myself.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:39:25pm

Both teams owe the audience an apology after this.

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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:39:29pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

The Older Boy inexplicably likes Red Delicious. Don’t know why.

Pretty, mushy, soft, kinda tasteless. Safe. Give the kid some options and see if his eyes open wide.

Just a suggestion.

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ckkatz  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:40:25pm

re: #42 austin_blue

Early for music, but I’m going to throw up a couple of songs by bands you may have never heard of but may have a weird relevance to today. The first, by Shivaree:

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Shivaree - Good Night Moon! I always found it a great a Halloween song. I usually play it with Concrete Blond’s “Bloodletting”. Thanks for posting!

edit - completed penultimate sentence by adding ‘with”

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:42:10pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:43:07pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:45:15pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:45:21pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:46:09pm

I’m not even watching the game. I’m just following along on Twitter, here, and Google.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:46:34pm

re: #45 GlutenFreeJesus

All that’s missing now is a selfie of him assembling the bombs. But even that won’t be enough to convince ANY Trumper.

Even that, because as he insists, those bombs were not intended to actually hurt anyone, and these are people who need to be terrorized for the good of MAGAland.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:47:11pm

re: #104 Targetpractice

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teleskiguy  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:49:14pm
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austin_blue  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:50:22pm

re: #103 ckkatz

Shivaree - Good Night Moon! I always found it a great a Halloween song. I usually play it Concrete Blond’s “Bloodletting”. Thanks for posting!

Inorite? They took the name of a book we all knew as kids and turned it into a spooky, eerie song that absolutely makes you horribly uncomfortable. Great song.

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ckkatz  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:53:09pm

From last thread:

re: #417 Joe Bacon 🌹

re: #156 ckkatz

There was a guy in Pittsburgh back in the 1970’s, forget his name, who would walk around the downtown area wearing sandwich boards. They held a huge amount of ranting about how the Post Office was stealing all his mail. But there was never anything hostile about this guy. Just complaints about victimhood.

Pittsburgh has a small town feel about it, lots of folks would have friendly chats with him. Since his hygiene was an issue, many of the chats were, necessarily short.

Later I found out he had a wife and children in a local suburb.

Robert Lansberry. He even ran for Congress as a Libertarian!

Thats him! I just googled him. Looks like he passed in 1999. And there are a bunch of articles and photos on and about him.

Quite a trip down memory lane for me. It was a different world then. But it certainly wasn’t better than today’s, it’s gone, and it’s not going to come back.

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Targetpractice  Oct 26, 2018 • 11:58:17pm

re: #111 teleskiguy

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Football fans are looking at baseball fans right now with sympathy. “You poor bastards, we only have to suffer through 2 hours, 3 if we’re really unlucky.”

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:00:29am

re: #113 ckkatz

From last thread:

Thats him! I just googled him. Looks like he passed in 1999. And there are a bunch of articles and photos on and about him.

Quite a trip down memory lane for me. It was a different world then. But it certainly wasn’t better than today’s, it’s gone, and it’s not going to come back.

And the recent mention of Iron City beer makes the day, doesn’t it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:00:59am

re: #114 Targetpractice

Football fans are looking at baseball fans right now with sympathy. “You poor bastards, we only have to suffer through 2 hours, 3 if we’re really unlucky.”

Soccer games go into penalty kicks. Seems like they could come up with a similar rule for baseball…

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:01:56am

Over at Fark:

Nunez is just getting taken OUT tonight. By the catcher, by first base, by the wall, by the mound…

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:02:35am

re: #80 teleskiguy

“Baseball has no time limit: we don’t know when it’s gonna end - might have extra innings. Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we’ve got to go to sudden death.”

-George Carlin

Here’s the whole bit.

Baseball vs Football

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:02:40am

Fans are cheering the day changing

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ckkatz  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:03:18am

re: #112 austin_blue

Inorite? They took the name of a book we all knew as kids and turned it into a spooky, eerie song that absolutely makes you horribly uncomfortable. Great song.

Yes, twisting the familiar into something different.

Speaking of creepy…

Sarah Kendzior retweeted this article. I have been meaning to try and go through it, even though I know diddly about music beyond hitting the play button:

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:04:08am
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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:04:58am

And the game has passed midnight in Chavez Ravine.

Why am I still watching at 2:00 am in South Austin? Well, I’m a baseball fan and I get to visit with my friends. So I’ve got that going for me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:07:29am
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:08:11am

re: #123 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Why’s that? To make the people at home feel better about having to listen to Joe Buck?

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:08:28am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:09:27am
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:10:19am

This game has been on Fox longer that Firefly.

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ckkatz  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:12:30am

re: #115 austin_blue

And the recent mention of Iron City beer makes the day, doesn’t it?

Yes, that was an interesting addition. The other beers looked like imports too.

Ahrn Siddy, as it is pronounced in ‘Yinzer’ as the local dialect is called. It never got much respect, but nobody cared too much. Particularly after a couple.

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:13:45am

re: #127 Targetpractice

This game has been on Fox longer that Firefly.

And Dog knows we screamed bloody murder when Fox cancelled Firefly.

And Kershaw is pinch-hitting for the pitcher in the bottom of the 17th.

(the last pitcher to do that was Don Drysdale)

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:20:28am
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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:24:32am
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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:26:30am

Good Dog, we’re going to the bottom inning of the second game.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:27:27am

re: #132 austin_blue

Good Dog, we’re going to the bottom inning of the second game.

Surprised the stadium hasn’t kicked them out. “You only bought tickets for the Friday game! It’s Saturday!”

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ckkatz  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:29:39am

Speaking of Iron City Beer and Pittsburgh…

I am posting the non-video version as the video version is a bit… explicit.

Pittsburgh Makes Me Drunk

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:30:54am

re: #133 Targetpractice

Surprised the stadium hasn’t kicked them out. “You only bought tickets for the Friday game! It’s Saturday!”

Are you kidding? They are selling beer and hot dogs out the ass.

And it’s over!

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:31:32am

re: #135 austin_blue

And it’s over!

Beerus Vs Champa Baseball Match (Episode 70)

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:33:33am

GAME OVER!

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:33:40am

Dodgers win 3-2 over the Red Sox in 18 innings. Red Sox leads the series two games to one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:34:40am
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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:36:18am

Well that was just exhausting. I’m off to bed. Night all.

Oh, and fuck Donald Trump right up the pussy.

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:36:23am
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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:36:53am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:44:13am

These electoral maps show how the GOP is dependent on uneducated white men for its electoral success.

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:46:10am

re: #139 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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To be clear, the existence of these spear points doesn’t rewrite human history in North America, it just expands it. Clovis points didn’t appear out of nowhere. They had precursors, which have now been found. This is how archeology works. Good for the field teams that made these finds.

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:59:56am

re: #144 austin_blue

It’s such a well worn practice in popular media to say this or that has to be “rewritten”.

As you point out, the Clovis point makers just didn’t pop out of the ground.

The published paper on which a spate of the media articles have appeared the past few days has in it quite a bit of information summarizing pre-Clovis discoveries. All of them point to the initial peopling of the Americas a couple of thousand years before the Clovis people.

This latest discovery has the advantage of providing good dating material via optically stimulated luminescence, which supports the dating of artefacts immediately before and after the Clovis people.

It’s all neat, and dovetails quite well with the genetic data.

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teleskiguy  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:11:24am

They played a phenomenal show in Boulder tonight. There’s something going on with these dudes from Arizona.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:17:16am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

These electoral maps show how the GOP is dependent on uneducated white men for its electoral success.

Objection: White guy with high school education is not “uneducated.” (says white guy with only a high school education).

/tone police

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:17:37am

As the big PowerBall draw approaches (tonight), as expected twitter is starting to flow with tweets that embed “Powerball”, just to get eye balls.

I think the worst have to be from self-declared experts on “wealth” and money-management.

This guy for example:

I keep looking for data that supports the claims of the misery of lottery winners, or, as in the case above, the silly claim that if poor people wouldn’t spend $200/yr on lottery tickets then they would be rich.

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:19:07am

This belief that poor people deserve to be poor because of their own actions is just a way for America to keep it’s religion of wealth from being dissected by a critical eye.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:19:36am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:28:46am

re: #148 freetoken

The stories of lotto winners who are miserable are “just so” logical fallacies. They tend to be promoted by people who claim to have earned their wealth by their industry or intelligence, and winning a large chunck of money in a lotto is somehow unfair to that idea of pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.

So out come the financial wizards with anecdotal stories of people who were “unhappy”: divorce over new-found wealth, people who blew all their money (because money=happiness), &c.

There are even a couple cases where people were murdered over lotto tickets (ignoring people get murdered for money all the time, and a winning lotto ticket is effectively money).

It would probably be difficult to fashion a scientific study of “those who are happy versus unhappy.” The best you could do is a survey with subjective values for “happy,” and those could still be cherry-picked for the “just so” unhappy stories.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:33:42am

re: #120 ckkatz

Yes, twisting the familiar into something different.

Speaking of creepy…

Sarah Kendzior retweeted this article. I have been meaning to try and go through it, even though I know diddly about music beyond hitting the play button:

[Embedded content]

For example

Camille Saint-Saëns - Danse macabre Op.40 死の舞踏

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:34:59am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

It would probably be difficult to fashion a scientific study of “those who are happy versus unhappy.” The best you could do is a survey with subjective values for “happy,” and those could still be cherry-picked for the “just so” unhappy stories.

The Swedish study (not peer reviewed) that was the core of a NYT article the other day, and which has since been copied by less credible outlets, supports the idea that lottery winners are doing quite fine. The problem, as noted in the NYT, is that “happiness” is a hard concept to quantify and study. Yet from what the Swedes were able to tell, lottery winners are not worse off than others.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:39:12am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s an anecdotal story in opposition to that:

My wife points out when she lived in Colorado Springs, there was a guy who worked a slightly-above minimum wage job who won several million dollars in the lotto. He continued to work his job and banked his money, not telling his coworkers.

He was only outed as a millionaire at his job after he won a second lotto prize of several million dollars. His happiness was not tied to his new-found wealth but what he was doing.

There is a persistent rumour in the military that if you win a large lotto prize they will administratively discharge you, allegedly because you can assert undue influence on your command.

I can’t speak for the other services, but when I was in the Navy I was interested in whether that was true or not. Searching for people who were administratively discharged for that I could find nothing, and there is nothing about that in Navy Regulations. I’m not sure why that rumour exists.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:48:40am

oops

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:49:26am

From that guy’s article I note some assertions:

Studies continually show that more lottery tickets are sold in poorer zip codes than in wealthier ones.

There are more poor people than wealthy people. Quelle surprise.

The story of the week might just be Earl Livingston, an 87-year-old who fell and broke his hip on the way to buy a Mega Millions ticket. Upon hospitalization, the staff offered him a chance to get in on their lottery pool. He accepted, and one of their tickets matched all five white balls to win a $1 million secondary prize.

Moral of the story kiddies: don’t go out and buy lotto tickets because you might break your hip after a fall. I might get hit by a Wal*Mart truck crossing US-26 today going to buy a Powerball ticket.

Plus denigrating his win (a few thousand dollars) - “It’s just not worth it folks.”

That brings up my anecdotal story of my poverty-stricken mother who won “just a few thousand dollars” - enough for me to be an exchange student in Brazil for over a year. For every one of these sad-sack stories you can find another “changed your life” story, but those changed-your-life stories don’t fit the narrative of “I earned my wealth through intelligence or industry, and you should too or you’ll be unhappy.”

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:50:29am

I assert that the reason these horror stories about lotteries are so often pushed, and why claims of poor people are doing it to themselves by playing the lottery are so popular (especially among the self-declared “wealth” experts), is because here in America we don’t really want to look at how disparately money is distributed in our society.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:52:51am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

I would tend to think that they would consider you a safer person, as far as security clearance goes.

I mean, that basically entirely removes the ability for agents to use financial bribery as a tool.

“So, I can make you a very rich man”
“Who do you work for?”
*country name*
“Let me call my broker first”
“Yeah, sell everything and buy *country name*, yeah, the whole country”

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:53:35am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

It’s a common misinterpretation of data, that I’ve come across in investigative journalism articles on the subject too.

A great many lottery tickets are sold in gas stations and liquor/convenience stores.

And guess what - such outlets are usually on the corners of heavily trafficked streets.

And you know what else is also located on heavily trafficked streets?

Low rent apartments.

Rich people live in neighborhoods away from the noise and pollution of such areas.

But guess what, middle class employed people stop at those stores when going here or there… so that is where they buy their tickets.

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freetoken  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:56:55am

I’ve repeatedly stated that the state lotteries offer horrible payouts for the odds. The only reason to play is to win the jackpot, and the thrill of anticipating it (and that is the “entertainment”.)

But I am getting quite annoyed at all the misplaced fretting over the lottery.

State lotteries are not the problem in American society today.

However, the great deal of misunderstanding surrounding the state lotteries is indicative of how lacking in critical thinking so many even allegedly educated people are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:12:14am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

These electoral maps show how the GOP is dependent on uneducated white men for its electoral success.

On that electoral map: I read that article. It quite succinctly explains why the GOP works so hard to suppress the minority vote, and are generally opposed to all immigration (not just so-called illegal immigration).

Maybe not in this election, maybe not in the next one, but the demographic shift will grind them into irrelevance. Thus you get people like Steve King (R-IA4) making arguments which are white-supremacist in nature about “shifting culture” or whatnot. Conservatives don’t seem to have good arguments for “why you should vote GOP” so they’re left with lying (like the healthcare lies they are claiming, such as supporting covering preëexisting conditions on insurance while voting against that) or suppression.

Lying is more likely to snag those who cannot critically think about the issue or research how their representative actually votes, and suppression does the rest.

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:17:51am

The “Chilling Adventures of Sabrina” series on Netflix is well done. A dark take on “Sabrina the Teenage Witch”. The 5.1 sound is enveloping.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:21:20am

re: #162 Single-handed sailor

The “Chilling Adventures of Sabrina” series on Netflix is well done. A dark take on “Sabrina the Teenage Witch”. The 5.1 sound is enveloping.

That sounds cool. (Damn, no Netflix at Chez Tumbleweed.) I liked Sabrina in the Archie comic books when I was a pre-teen (the Christian outfit which bought the series banished Sabrina as a character - suffer not a witch to live and all), and I got a kick out of the television series (no Groovy Ghoulies there though).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:30:51am

I do like it when Nate Silver publishes other things than political horseraces based on study or survey data (not so much his sports articles):

Only 6 Percent Of U.S. Terrorists Act Alone, But They Are Prolific

As of 2015, lone wolves accounted for 6 percent of all terrorists in the U.S. — but they were responsible for 25 percent of all U.S. terrorist attacks. That’s according to a report by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START), the organization that manages the Global Terrorism Database. Historically, lone wolves have been able to avoid arrest for longer periods of time than terrorists who act in groups.

(more)

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Single-handed sailor  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:33:31am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹

Click to Reveal

Your wife might be able to set you up with Kodi and the Exodus plugin to view it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:38:50am

re: #165 Single-handed sailor

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It’s pirates all the way down. /s

I’m not big on software or services theft, so I suppose I won’t do that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:47:54am

Okay, this is just wrong.

My wife bought pumpkin spice Reese’s peanut butter cups.

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:54:40am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

Okay, this is just wrong.

My wife bought pumpkin spice Reese’s peanut butter cups.

If pumpkin spice would allow me to fold space, I’d buy some. Otherwise, it needs to stay in pumpkin pie, bread and cookies where it belongs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 2:59:22am

re: #168 wheat-dogg

If pumpkin spice would allow me to fold space, I’d buy some. Otherwise, it needs to stay in pumpkin pie, bread and cookies where it belongs.

LOL.

Usually she doesn’t buy pumpkin spice stuff. She bakes things like pumpkin pies, bread, and cookies using actual pumpkin (not the canned stuff), primarily because she likes to do seasonal baking projects. (Also a good way to build/bribe good will with the neighbours: “Would you like some homemade pumpkin pie? Cookies? Cake? Bread?”)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2018 • 3:03:49am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

Okay, this is just wrong.

My wife bought pumpkin spice Reese’s peanut butter cups.

as long as she does not show up in yoga pants and start telling you all the things she likes about autumn

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 27, 2018 • 3:12:30am

re: #168 wheat-dogg

If pumpkin spice would allow me to fold space, I’d buy some. Otherwise, it needs to stay in pumpkin pie, bread and cookies where it belongs.

Well, Dreyer’s Pumpkin Pie flavored ice cream was how we figured out what gave my girlfriend those sneezing fits after eating certain things. It was seasonal-crap-on-sale time and we got Pumpkin Pie and Eggnog at the same time. Same ice cream, pretty much the same spices, right? But the Pumpkin Pie was colored with artificial colors and the Eggnog was colored very slightly off-white with annatto, and the Eggnog made her sneeze.

So that’s one pumpkin-pie-flavored thing that served a useful purpose. Now if they’d just stop coloring cheddar cheese orange with the stuff….

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steve_davis  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:18:26am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

My wife got an E-mail from Penzey’s Spices. A conservative was writing to them, objecting to the stickers they’re sending out with orders imprinted “I will vote 11.6.18” and cards which say “To cook is to care, to care is to vote.” (They are also promoting a chili powder freebie with a $5 order.)

Penzey’s actually flamed back (behind the hide bar because it’s kind of long). Wow. That is some serious flamage.

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something a little unnerving about a cook claiming to have “known and enjoyed conservatives” all of his life. I can’t help but picture Penzey’s flipping through the rolodex, searching for whatever rude Trumpster would make a nice rump roast.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:20:03am

Facebook Video

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:42:09am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as long as she does not show up in yoga pants and start telling you all the things she likes about autumn

LOL. She doesn’t wear yoga pants at all. She prefers skirts and dresses.

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steve_davis  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:42:39am

re: #147 Anymouse 🌹

Objection: White guy with high school education is not “uneducated.” (says white guy with only a high school education).

/tone police

in 99 percent of cases, yes it is.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:43:28am

re: #172 steve_davis

something a little unnerving about a cook claiming to have “known and enjoyed conservatives” all of his life. I can’t help but picture Penzey’s flipping through the rolodex, searching for whatever rude Trumpster would make a nice rump roast.

Yikes. A completely different meaning to “long pig.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:44:37am

re: #175 steve_davis

in 99 percent of cases, yes it is.

[citation needed for statistic]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:45:47am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

LOL. She doesn’t wear yoga pants at all. She prefers skirts and dresses.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:49:41am

Love this:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:51:10am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:53:07am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

deplorable

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 4:59:34am

This video gets off to a bit of a slow start, but toward the middle the antics of the conductor and the verses of the song get to be hilarious.

(4:13)

VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT - The Spooky Mens Chorale

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jeffreyw  Oct 27, 2018 • 5:05:30am

Imgur


Good morning!

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 5:23:13am

re: #157 freetoken

I assert that the reason these horror stories about lotteries are so often pushed, and why claims of poor people are doing it to themselves by playing the lottery are so popular (especially among the self-declared “wealth” experts), is because here in America we don’t really want to look at how disparately money is distributed in our society.

There’s also the Those People don’t deserve money, how dare they! driving that narrative. How could Those People ever be happy? They’re Those People, the great unwashed.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 5:25:01am

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

Okay, this is just wrong.

My wife bought pumpkin spice Reese’s peanut butter cups.

I saw pumpkin spice Cheerios in the store yesterday.

Gag.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 5:31:00am

re: #173 Dave In Austin

I’m dying. That was fucking absolutely hysterical. Tears are streaming down my face. Literally (the real literally).

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 5:54:54am

re: #83 austin_blue

Okay, here’s the second song from a band you may have never heard of but is kinda cool.

The video sucks. Don’t watch it, but turn up the volume on the song:

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Shriekback was pretty big for a while here in NY. ‘Nemesis’ and ‘All Lined Up’ were both pretty popular.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:14:02am

re: #185 MsJ

I saw pumpkin spice Cheerios in the store yesterday.

Gag.

Fror $8.81 you can get this:

The Honest Kitchen Instant Pumpkin Spice Latte for Dogs & Cats, 4-oz jar (goes to Chewy, a pet supply company)

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:18:11am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹

Fror $8.81 you can get this:

The Honest Kitchen Instant Pumpkin Spice Latte for Dogs & Cats, 4-oz jar (goes to Chewy, a pet supply company)

Gross.

I’d never heard of chewy until someone got ahold of my credit card number and bought a bunch of stuff from them.

To their credit they handled it quickly as did my bank.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:25:16am

re: #189 MsJ

Gross.

I’d never heard of chewy until someone got ahold of my credit card number and bought a bunch of stuff from them.

To their credit they handled it quickly as did my bank.

When Felix Randomkitty was still alive, we bought a number of things from Chewy. My wife says they were a good company to do business with.

As for the cost of that dog and cat milk, the stuff is goat’s milk. At the price they’re selling it, that works out to $281 plus shipping per gallon of milk.

They pitch the stuff as GMO free (going for the moonbats).

For that price, you can get a GMO free goat and a jar of Penzey’s pumpkin spice and save money. Plus you can get exercise milking a goat, or spend a few more bucks on a goat milking machine.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:31:34am

I’ve lost count of the number of disability claims I’ve handled involving steroid junkies…

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:36:43am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

I could find nothing, and there is nothing about that in Navy Regulations. I’m not sure why that rumour exists.

Wishful thinking would be my guess.

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:39:47am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:42:00am

re: #191 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve lost count of the number of disability claims I’ve handled involving steroid junkies…

You know better than I do about processing disability claims at Social Security (they rejected my claim and appeal due to epilepsy, and made me pay back over $900 they paid to my ex-wife).

That said, I would think if you were misusing steroid drugs, then a disability caused by that would be a rejection at SSA.

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:50:52am

re: #192 William Lewis

Wishful thinking would be my guess.

Probably. I knew when I had a thousand days left and was ready to get out. Imagine suddenly being a millionaire and yet still being contractually obligated to serve, and yet if you act up and get dishonorably discharged it can seriously ruin your future prospects (a million isn’t actually a whole lot in the long run).

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:57:26am

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hmmm….
Sure sounds like a Dana Loesch inspired gun humper

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Dana Loesch said “anti-gun progressives” trying to keep polling places gun-free would be grateful if an armed civilian stopped a mass shooting on Election Day.

So someone with a gun should have blown that motherfucker with the skull shirt and gun on his hip away?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:57:31am

Here we go … opening my mail ballot to vote. I’m going in, wish me luck.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 6:59:08am

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

God. The only thing worse than watching a baseball game is watching a baseball game and a half.

I once took a date to a Cubs-Expos game that ended in the…I don’t know—they stopped selling beer in the 7th inning and we were getting sun stroke so we left in the 14th.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:02:04am

Mail voting live updates (you poor devils):

Let’s see: Ballot, instruction form, return envelope (which if you mail you have to sign on the outside but no particular information other than an attestation you live in the precinct.

Check ballot to ensure there are no marks, and it has a pair of check signatures. (It does.) Check the serial number to ensure it matches the return envelope (presumably to check if a ballot is challenged, so much for a secret ballot, #116, good to go).

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:06:26am

Bonus! My cheap state sent an “I voted” sticker this time around! Yay, me!

For US Senator - Get a choice for a Libertarian this time. Good thing I’m not voting for him. (Jane Raybould, D)

For US House - Big nope to Adrian Smith (R), Paul Theobald (D) gets the nod from me.

For Nebraska Governor - Another big nope to Pete Ricketts (R). Bob Krist (relatively conservative D) gets my vote.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:11:44am

Secretary of State gets a vote for Spencer Danner, while State Treasurer gets no vote (no Democrat … last time around I voted for the Libertarian as a strategic vote but this time there is no L candidate). Auditor of Public Accounts gets an enthusiastic yes for Jane Skinner (D), while Attorney General gets left blank.

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CleverToad  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:15:10am

Vote by mail Colorado style — Arapahoe county has an opt-in feature that notifies you of the status of your ballot, when it was mailed out and when the voted ballot has been received by the clerk’s office. I just got the official confirmation that yes, they have my vote in hand. My husband, son and mother’s ballots have also been turned in — that makes four straight Dem voters to the good.

My friend in Denver city/county says SHE got an ‘I voted’ sticker in her mail ballot. My county seems to be too chintzy to do that *sniff*

Sort of miss the civic community feeling of going to vote with the neighbors en masse. Would have been a rite of passage to take the kid in for his first vote a couple of years ago. On the other hand, don’t have to wrangle my mom into her wheelchair to the poll and pray for good weather on Election Day. If vote-by-mail lets more people vote with a trackable paper ballot, it’s an acceptable trade-off.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:19:22am

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

When Felix Randomkitty was still alive, we bought a number of things from Chewy. My wife says they were a good company to do business with.

As for the cost of that dog and cat milk, the stuff is goat’s milk. At the price they’re selling it, that works out to $281 plus shipping per gallon of milk.

They pitch the stuff as GMO free (going for the moonbats).

For that price, you can get a GMO free goat and a jar of Penzey’s pumpkin spice and save money. Plus you can get exercise milking a goat, or spend a few more bucks on a goat milking machine.

I ordered flea meds for Scout from Chewy. I’d always used Petsmart, but Chewy got the order out in record time, and for free.

Then last week, I got a ‘Greetings from Florida’ postcard from Chewy, with a hand-lettered note saying they hoped the flea meds were working well.

I like their style. I’m gonna stay with them for a while.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:20:02am

County commission, vote for two. Two candidates, both R. Another blank. Same for county assessor and county attorney and county clerk and sheriff. (Sorry county attorney, sheriff, and clerk, I know you all well and you’re nice people, but you’re in the Party of Trump. Can’t vote for that.)

No one at all running for county surveyor, while the county treasurer is a known Trump supporter. Nope.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:23:34am

State board of education district 7: An independent and not a fundamentalist Christian. Yes for him. Ditto Western Nebraska Community College Board of Governors Regent District 2.

As for the judges, none are involved in scandals. Aye votes. Flip the ballot over for Live Blog Part Two, Electric Boogaloo.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:31:33am

Initiative 427: Medicaid Expansion - Hell yes.

Non-partisan positions for North Platte Resource District and Public Power District. Unsure about the candidates and couldn’t find much about them except which ones were incumbents. We still have natural resources and a public power district, so there’s that.

School Board: Vote for three. The two women are nominal Democrats (non-partisan election). Vote for them.

Village Board: Vote for me [yay!]. Vote for the two Republicans as a strategic vote against the neo-Nazi.

And we’re done.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:41:35am

Off to the Post Office to mail our ballots and bills, and to the general store for a Powerball ticket.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:42:45am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

Off to the Post Office to mail our ballots and bills, and to the general store for a Powerball ticket.

Don’t bother with the general store. I bought the winning ticket yesterday from a machine at the grocery store.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:44:21am

re: #208 Barefoot Grin

Don’t bother with the general store. I bought the winning ticket yesterday from a machine at the grocery store.

What are the odds of two lizards sharing the prize?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:49:06am

re: #209 I Would Prefer Not To

What are the odds of two lizards sharing the prize?

Not zero! I’d be happy to share with 100 million other winners.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:49:11am

The Post hasn’t shared theirs online, so I’ll rely on others

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:49:29am

re: #210 Barefoot Grin

Not zero! I’d be happy to share with 100 million other winners.

Er…. On second thought….

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:51:43am

Pretty miserable day here on LI, with heavy rains and high winds. I know it’s a cliche, but the rain is actually blowing sideways outside my window.

I was supposed to play a fundraiser out in the posh Hamptons today, but they saw the weather coming and bumped it to tomorrow. Today will be dedicated to re-programming some amp sounds. I’m inching closer to getting everything dialed in, but it’s taken four shows to find out where the deficiencies are in the system and correcting them. At which point I’ll probably find different deficiencies. Such is life in the world of digital amplification.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:53:17am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:54:05am

re: #213 makeitstop

Pretty miserable day here on LI, with heavy rains and high winds. I know it’s a cliche, but the rain is actually blowing sideways outside my window.

I was supposed to play a fundraiser out in the posh Hamptons today, but they saw the weather coming and bumped it to tomorrow. Today will be dedicated to re-programming some amp sounds. I’m inching closer to getting everything dialed in, but it’s taken four shows to find out where the deficiencies are in the system and correcting them. At which point I’ll probably find different deficiencies. Such is life in the world of digital amplification.

It’s weird, too, how you can get that perfect sound, leave everything as is, then come back and it’s just not quite right.

Raining hard up here in northern New England, too. DS’s high school soccer tourney game was postponed until tomorrow. Not sure about walking the dog; doggo doesn’t look too thrilled either.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:54:36am

re: #214 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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NO NO NO! That’s the temple I went to when I was at Pitt! NO! NO! NO!

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Done Ben Wrote  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:58:30am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

I love Penzey’s. I was at the warehouse store yesterday to replenish the stocks of Hot Curry and Northwoods Fire. (An empty Northwoods Fire jar is a cooking emergency at the Ben Wrote house.)

They will be closed Election Day so that all of their employees have the opportunity to vote. No excuses.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 7:59:58am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO NO NO! That’s the temple I went to when I was at Pitt! NO! NO! NO!

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:00:51am

re: #215 Barefoot Grin

It’s weird, too, how you can get that perfect sound, leave everything as is, then come back and it’s just not quite right.

The amp sound (based on a Mesa Lone Star combo) is actually quite good, but the means of controlling it is a little wacky at this point. I set up an expression pedal to control amp gain on a continuous curve, but in a live situation it’s just a little too unpredictable - lean on the pedal too hard and the tone turns to mush. I’m just going to set up a series of patches with the same amp tone and various stages of gain, and then assign a boost to a foot switch. That way I’ll know exactly how much boost I’m adding.

Raining hard up here in northern New England, too. DS’s high school soccer tourney game was postponed until tomorrow. Not sure about walking the dog; doggo doesn’t look too thrilled either.

Yeah, I opened the door for Scout, and he looked out then looked at me like ‘You’re kidding, right?’ Big tough dog, doesn’t like getting his feet wet.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:01:06am

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Having a ball with that on FB. Thanks!

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CongoJack  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:02:24am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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shooter in custody?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:03:57am

OK, Now I’m waiting for the usual Worshippers of the Iron Penis to start the “Thoughts and Prayers” shit.

Fuck Trump.

Fuck the RepubliKKKlan Party.

4 dead and others injured at the Tree of Life synagogue.

How many more will die thanks to the fucking racist in the White House?

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:04:32am

Wouldn’t voting by mail be really susceptible to husband’s pressuring their wives to vote the way they wanted?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:06:24am

re: #221 CongoJack

shooter in custody?

MSNBC covering now

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CarolJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:06:46am

re: #223 Belafon

In vote by mail states, I believe there is the option of voting at boards of elections for the disabled and those who may have a hard time voting at home. Also some people have the option of recieving mail at work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:06:54am

re: #208 Barefoot Grin

Don’t bother with the general store. I bought the winning ticket yesterday from a machine at the grocery store.

I’m back. I checked my last ticket and I WON THE LOTTO!!!!!
$8

Ballots in the mail. That concludes the live blog of me voting. We now return you to the regularly scheduled LGF, already in progress.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:10:35am

7 now dead…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:10:38am

re: #224 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

MSNBC covering now

CNN & FOX covering too
Not HLN (Head Line News or at least they used to be) they don’t really cover live events anymore, unless it’s a court case

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Belafon  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:10:42am

re: #225 CarolJ

In vote by mail states, I believe there is the option of voting at boards of elections for the disabled and those who may have a hard time voting at home. Also some people have the option of recieving mail at work.

I’m not against it, and I think the probability of the pressure would be less now than 50 years ago, but it just crossed my mind. I could also see “Why did you vote at work? We were supposed to do it together.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #223 Belafon

Wouldn’t voting by mail be really susceptible to husband’s pressuring their wives to vote the way they wanted?

My wife tells me how I should vote. /s

Presumably a husband could pressure a wife on how to vote. With polling, if you were married to a jerk like that, he could also prevent her from going to the polls. The problem is the jerk, not the method.

My wife says she only voted once by absentee ballot before moving here (to protest Diebold voting machines). She always voted in person.

I have never voted at a polling station in my life. All the time I was in the Navy it was by Federal absentee ballot, homeless people don’t get to vote, I missed the 2008 election because I could not provide proper ID to Oklahoma in time.

When I moved here Nebraska was already doing mail voting in rural areas.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:11:13am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:12:14am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:14:23am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO NO NO! That’s the temple I went to when I was at Pitt! NO! NO! NO!

I’m terribly sorry for those at the temple, and for you as a former congregant.

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CongoJack  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:14:51am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ugh, restart the clock.

I presume this is an attack done in the wake of the maga bomber going after those “evil jooos” - I hope DJT is taken to task on this as he screams soros into the wind.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:14:59am

I DARE anyone to start with the “false flag” shit!

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CongoJack  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:15:18am

re: #234 CongoJack

Or a domestic violence thing gone awry.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:15:33am

Is it still a cold civil war?

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:17:38am

re: #237 Unshaken Defiance

Is it still a cold civil war?

The burner is being turned up as we speak.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:18:03am

They are reporting on CBS that eight are dead, and the shooter has surrendered to the police after being trapped on the third floor of the synagogue. They only describe him as a white man with a beard.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:18:56am

re: #234 CongoJack

Ugh, restart the clock.

I presume this is an attack done in the wake of the maga bomber going after those “evil jooos” - I hope DJT is taken to task on this as he screams soros into the wind.

I don’t want to jump to conclusions.
There are plenty of instances of people shooting up their own, or families traditional place of worship

But, yeah. There’s a strong possibility it’s some white nationalist exercising his MAGArights

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:19:18am

re: #223 Belafon

Wouldn’t voting by mail be really susceptible to husband’s pressuring their wives to vote the way they wanted?

Or the wife filling in the ballot for her husband and telling him to sign. ;-)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:19:40am

re: #234 CongoJack

Ugh, restart the clock.

I presume this is an attack done in the wake of the maga bomber going after those “evil jooos” - I hope DJT is taken to task on this as he screams soros into the wind.

re: #240 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I don’t want to jump to conclusions.
There are plenty of instances of people shooting up their own, or families traditional place of worship

But, yeah. There’s a strong possibility it’s some white nationalist exercising his MAGArights

Never mind the first part of my comment

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:20:54am

re: #235 Joe Bacon 🌹

I DARE anyone to start with the “false flag” shit!

if you can do false flag with elementary school kids, you can do it with anyone. I mean anyone. I say this as a Jew and a parent. Sandy Hook truthers were the worst. I hate them more than I do holocaust deniers.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:21:30am

I know the temple layout. Went there for services with my college friends. Many of my professors were members. I am so heartsick that they may have been hurt.

And I lay the blame of this incident right where it belongs—the Racist Asshole In The Oval Office and his RepubliKKKlan enablers.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:23:05am

On motive, it always pays to wait long enough to not be wrong.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:24:25am

re: #244 Joe Bacon 🌹

I know the temple layout. Went there for services with my college friends. Many of my professors were members. I am so heartsick that they may have been hurt.

And I lay the blame of this incident right where it belongs—the Racist Asshole In The Oval Office and his RepubliKKKlan enablers.

I’m so sorry. I know this is a punch in the gut for you. I want to say that I hope you personally didn’t know anyone who was killed, but that seems callous because all of these people have loved ones. Nothing good to say. This is heartbreaking.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:26:10am

Shooter in custody
Live from LEO on CNN

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:26:36am

No words.

This country is so broken.

Peace to all the victims and their families.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:27:39am

Awful just awful.

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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:27:56am

re: #248 makeitstop

re: #244 Joe Bacon 🌹

re: #243 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s as if they let all the most dangerous deranged violent men out of jail. But all they did was come out of their terrible holes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:27:57am

Yes, I am distraught right now because I know that the Asshole In The Oval Office will once again double down on the hate at his next Nuremberg rally.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:28:50am

re: #143 Big Beautiful Door

These electoral maps show how the GOP is dependent on uneducated white men for its electoral success.

The MAGAts I know are either NRA fanatics or Netanyahu worshipers. OTOH, my acquaintance, the Trump supporter with the PhD, was completely opposed to the tax legislation: he raged that it would be used for stock buybacks rather to help the middle class. So he may no longer be as fond of our leader as at the beginning.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:28:57am

re: #244 Joe Bacon 🌹

I know the temple layout. Went there for services with my college friends. Many of my professors were members. I am so heartsick that they may have been hurt.

And I lay the blame of this incident right where it belongs—the Racist Asshole In The Oval Office and his RepubliKKKlan enablers.

Sorry Joe. I can relate. I had a lot of people I worried about when the VA Tech massacre happened.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:30:09am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:31:43am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:32:39am

We have right wing terrorists given a blank check by a racist President who are killing people.

And we have a Homeland Security secretary who gives these thugs the green light.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:32:39am

re: #252 Hecuba’s daughter

The MAGAts I know are either NRA fanatics or Netanyahu worshipers. OTOH, my acquaintance, the Trump supporter with the PhD, was completely opposed to the tax legislation: he raged that it would be used for stock buybacks rather to help the middle class. So he may no longer be as fond of our leader as at the beginning.

Pretty much every person in my town voted for Donald Trump.

When I went into the store this morning, I was wearing my “I voted” sticker. The owner said “you know, we probably cancelled each others votes out.”

Well, that’s part of the point of elections, one candidate’s voters cancel out all the votes of the other, plus one vote.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:33:38am

re: #254 jaunte

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An alt-righter I have cut off contact with had been warning about civil war. It appears that at least some Nazis have decided now is the time.

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BigPapa  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:35:14am

Remember the DHS report in 2009 that got the GOP on the ethers? I do.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:36:12am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

My wife tells me how I should vote. /s

Presumably a husband could pressure a wife on how to vote. With polling, if you were married to a jerk like that, he could also prevent her from going to the polls. The problem is the jerk, not the method.

My wife says she only voted once by absentee ballot before moving here (to protest Diebold voting machines). She always voted in person.

I have never voted at a polling station in my life. All the time I was in the Navy it was by Federal absentee ballot, homeless people don’t get to vote, I missed the 2008 election because I could not provide proper ID to Oklahoma in time.

When I moved here Nebraska was already doing mail voting in rural areas.

All I knew going with my parents to vote were voting machines, so I was surprised when things went backwards the first time I got to vote in 1972—it was just like the famous butterfly ballots from 2000. I don’t know how many hanging chads I left.

The ballot has been the same here for years now, used to be you had to go to a polling place to fill it out and feed it into the machine, now they just mail it to you.

Anyway, you shamed me into finally filling out my ballot—we’ll see if I can be arsed getting it in the mail before the mail guy gets here. Sorry I can’t help the national sitch much, Maria Cantwell and Adam Smith are going to win anyway. I wish I could vote in the district next door to keep the egregious Dino Rossi from taking over from that anal fistula Reichert. Carving out a district that straddles the fucking mountains should be illegal, but that’s the only way they could get him in.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:36:37am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:37:30am

Was just thinking, “watch, he’ll have his fashionable ‘manly guy beard’”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:41:02am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:43:25am

re: #238 Eventual Carrion

The burner is being turned up as we speak.

How many polling places are going to be shot up between now and election day? And especially on election day?

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:43:29am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Between the IED’s that were mailed to some very well known people and today’s incident DT and his followers (especially his followers) are trying to scare people from voting and booting DT and his cronies out of office.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:43:30am

Local news source

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:44:00am

3 officers have been shot.

8 confirmed deaths, count incomplete.

I cannot stop weeping.

And I know that Richard Spencer and his fellow thugs are having a massive orgasm over this.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:44:43am

re: #267 Joe Bacon 🌹

3 officers have been shot.

8 confirmed deaths, count incomplete.

I cannot stop weeping.

And I know that Richard Spencer and his fellow thugs are having a massive orgasm over this.

So sorry, Joe.

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William Lewis  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:44:51am

re: #247 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shooter in custody
Live from LEO on CNN

so a white conservative shooter, IOW.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:45:42am

Well, in addition to the guaranteed screams of “false flag” and SMOTI trying to fake a voter registration to claim the man is a Democrat, stand by for the whitewashing (he’s mentally ill, he lost his job, &c) because he’s not the “wrong” colour.

CBS are also reporting three police officers were shot (but alive) and the gunman [that word not approved for use by the NRA] was also injured.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:45:50am

re: #269 William Lewis

so a white conservative shooter, IOW.

Still waiting for the police to give a briefing to see if that is true.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:45:52am

re: #260 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mr. C. and I mailed our ballots on Thursday. Our county has gone to all vote-by-mail, which is a return to paper ballots (unless you go in to the county offices and use a machine) which is good, but I do miss walking down to my friendly local polling place to vote. There was a degree of civic engagement which is missing now.

I’ve voted on everything from the old behemoths with levers, to punch cards, to various systems of marking paper ballots. Given the choice, I’d go back a decade to when we had the paper ballots that we marked by filling in the middle part of an arrow pointing to the candidate’s name and fed into a scanner at the polling place. It was easy to see who you were voting for, could be tabulated quickly and was not subject to a lot of technical difficulties.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:46:05am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:46:40am

I’m surprised, switched to FOX News, and they are actually reporting on the “All jews must die” comment
And, one of the panelists just called it terrorism

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:47:06am

re: #273 jaunte

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Trump is a coward.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:47:24am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m surprised, switched to FOX News, and they are actually reporting on the “All jews must die” comment
And, one of the panelists just called it terrorism

Who’d have thunk it?

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:48:31am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m surprised, switched to FOX News, and they are actually reporting on the “All jews must die” comment
And, one of the panelists just called it terrorism

They are still holding out hope that the gunman is a Muslim.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:48:36am

From three days ago

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:49:30am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m surprised, switched to FOX News, and they are actually reporting on the “All jews must die” comment
And, one of the panelists just called it terrorism

I’m glad I junked my cable box because I want nothing to do with anything associated with Screwpert Murdoch!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:51:25am

re: #277 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

They are still holding out hope that the gunman is a Muslim.

FAUX can suck my CENSORED!

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:52:26am

re: #277 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

They are still holding out hope that the gunman is a Muslim.

Of that, I have no doubt. And when they learn it was yet another white wingnut, they’ll swing back to “This was a lone wolf, a mentally disturbed man whose actions were in no way influenced by others.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:52:29am

I’m taking a break for this to do some writing. Be good to each other.

Youngbloods

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:52:49am
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Unshaken Defiance  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:52:54am

re: #265 PhillyPretzel

Between the IED’s that were mailed to some very well known people and today’s incident DT and his followers (especially his followers) are trying to scare people from voting and booting DT and his cronies out of office.

That is going to 180 on these guys.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:53:00am

re: #264 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How many polling places are going to be shot up between now and election day? And especially on election day?

I hate to think of that, but polling violence is actually common in the USA.

That’s another argument in favour of mail ballots.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:53:35am

2016:

“…It’s a global power structure that is responsible for the economic decisions that have robbed our working class, stripped our country of its wealth and put that money into the pockets of a handful of large corporations and political entities.”

These are standard anti-Semitic themes and storylines, using established anti-Semitic vocabulary lined up with high profile Jews as the only Americans other than Clinton who are apparently relevant to the story. As you can see by my transcription, the Jews come up to punctuate specific key phrases. Soros: “those who control the levers of power in Washington”; Yellen “global special interests”; Blankfein “put money into the pockets of handful of large corporations.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:56:45am

re: #271 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still waiting for the police to give a briefing to see if that is true.

I imagine in a briefing they’re not going to say anything about his political affiliation.

Governor Tom Wolf has arrived on the scene.

On the issue of “All Jews must die,” that doesn’t seem like something a liberal voter would say before going on a mass shooting rampage (which is vanishingly rare amongst the left anyway).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:57:48am
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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:58:11am

“…In its annual Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents, ADL found that the number of anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S. rose 57 percent in 2017 - the largest single-year increase on record and the second highest number reported since ADL started tracking such data in 1979.”
adl.org

………

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wheat-dogg  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:59:12am

Trump will as usual need to be forced into making some kind of presidential comment about the shooting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 8:59:59am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:00:34am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m surprised, switched to FOX News, and they are actually reporting on the “All jews must die” comment
And, one of the panelists just called it terrorism

Have any of them said yet its left wing terrorism because Nazis are socialists?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:01:18am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

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Trump repeatedly encourages violence. The Beatles did the total opposite. What a pathetic attempt to both sides this.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:01:44am

re: #292 Big Beautiful Door

Have any of them said yet its left wing terrorism because Nazis are socialists?

Give them time.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:02:11am

So the killer’s name is “Rob Bower” or “Bauer”. Now lets see the Doxers go to work!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:03:10am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:03:31am
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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:03:56am

re: #287 Anymouse 🌹

I imagine in a briefing they’re not going to say anything about his political affiliation.

Governor Tom Wolf has arrived on the scene.

On the issue of “Death to the Jews,” that doesn’t seem like something a liberal voter would say before going on a mass shooting rampage (which is vanishingly rare amongst the left anyway).

The only question is whether he’s a Nazi or a Muslim, and you know how the Right will react if he’s Muslim.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:04:16am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Correct. He only cares about those who kiss his ass.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:04:57am

re: #290 wheat-dogg

Trump will as usual need to be forced into making some kind of presidential comment about the shooting.

Borrowing from Preet: “nobody wants to hear what Trump has to say.”

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retired cynic  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:05:17am

re: #141 teleskiguy

Extra innings was extra baseball, back when I was watching. When I still ran a TV. I was a total geek. Now… I know nothing. But I don’t even mind listening to Joe Buck.

(That must be up there with pineapple on pizza?)

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:05:30am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ashley Parker trying to normalise Trump by saying he’s not interested, rather than calling him out. That’s about as bad as the press refusing to use the word “lie” when hearing a lie from a Republican they can immediately debunk.

Political correctness is going to get us killed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:07:55am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:08:51am

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹

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Creepy.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:09:38am

re: #291 Anymouse 🌹

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We hear this shit after every wingnut act of terrorism: “He’s mentally ill, those people can be influenced by anything, it’s wrong to politicize this tragedy by suggesting they targeted these people due to influence.”

It’s funny, but I don’t remember the same morons making these same noises after the Congressional baseball shooting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:10:35am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:10:50am

re: #301 retired cynic

Extra innings was extra baseball, back when I was watching. When I still ran a TV. I was a total geek. Now… I know nothing. But I don’t even mind listening to Joe Buck.

(That must be up there with pineapple on pizza?)

When people started talking about that, the only Joe Buck I knew was Jon Voight in Midnight Cowboy. Still is….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:11:26am

re: #305 Targetpractice

We hear this shit after every wingnut act of terrorism: “He’s mentally ill, those people can be influenced by anything, it’s wrong to politicize this tragedy by suggesting they targeted these people due to influence.”

It’s funny, but I don’t remember the same morons making these same noises after the Congressional baseball shooting.

And then they inflame the shit again by continuing to lie about people like Soros.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:11:52am

Just got back in from a busy morning with a client I am helping with some decorating in her building and grocery shopping.

I see we are having another NRA/Trump day in America.

Damn it all.

We should force people like Dana Loesch, Oliver North, Ted Nugent and other gun humpers to be the ones to go in and clean up one of these mass shooting scenes. Let’s see them have to deal with the actual destruction and see how tough they are after a few of these events.

Sorry if that is off-color or whatever. We have to do something about the terror within this country and stop idiots like Trump from making it all about immigrants.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:12:04am

When shooters are white our Corporate Presstitutes always say that they’re “mentally disturbed”.

When shooters aren’t white, those same Presstitutes whip out “terrorist”.

And we can always count on the worshippers of the Iron Penis will utter the “thoughts and prayers” shit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:13:25am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:15:04am

re: #311 Anymouse 🌹

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He did brag about how much he loves the uneducated.

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:19:08am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

He did brag about how much he loves the uneducated.

They are a lost easier to con.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:19:48am

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

They are a lost easier to con.

Incredibly so.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:20:27am

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

They are a lost easier to con.

Just like fat people are harder to kidnap.

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calochortus  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:21:06am

re: #313 Big Beautiful Door

They are a lost easier to con.

Not necessarily. Look at all the people who thought Trump branded buildings were going to be amazing and bought in-they had to have enough money to do that. It just depends on what kind of con you are running.

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:23:44am
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:24:09am
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:24:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:24:25am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

He did brag about how much he loves the uneducated.

I am a proud member of the minority of men without degrees in that poll then.

The overwhelming majority of my township actually has college degrees. (Mostly in agriculture or business). In town, there are several people with eighth grade educations or less.

On my village board, I am the only person without a college degree. /anecdote

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:24:34am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:26:54am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

I am a proud member of the minority of men without degrees in that poll then.

The overwhelming majority of my township actually has college degrees. (Mostly in agriculture or business). In town, there are several people with eighth grade educations or less.

On my village board, I am the only person without a college degree. /anecdote

There’s always exceptions but I really do think post high school education prepares people for dealing with a wide range of people.

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gwangung  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:29:28am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

There are a couple studies out there that show colleges makes people more accepting of ALL viewpoints, liberal AND conservative.

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BigPapa  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:30:03am

re: #323 gwangung

There are a couple studies out there that show colleges makes people more accepting of ALL viewpoints, liberal AND conservative.

and people become liberal.. amazing

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Skip Intro  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:31:13am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m surprised, switched to FOX News, and they are actually reporting on the “All jews must die” comment
And, one of the panelists just called it terrorism

That panelist will be put on the Fox blacklist. It’s never terrorism when a white guy does it, never.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:32:04am

re: #323 gwangung

There are a couple studies out there that show colleges makes people more accepting of ALL viewpoints, liberal AND conservative.

Probably depends on the field of study. I don’t think that applies to engineers.

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gwangung  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:33:35am

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

Probably depends on the field of study. I don’t think that applies to engineers.

The one I was thinking of studied undergrads at the end of freshman year

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lizardofid  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:34:40am

re: #323 gwangung

There are a couple studies out there that show colleges makes people more accepting of ALL viewpoints, liberal AND conservative.

I believe exposure to others, leads to acceptance of others, and feel college, as well as travel, accomplish that.

Oh hello all!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:35:34am

Oh shut up, President Asshole. Just shut up.

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:35:39am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

I am a proud member of the minority of men without degrees in that poll then.

The overwhelming majority of my township actually has college degrees. (Mostly in agriculture or business). In town, there are several people with eighth grade educations or less.

On my village board, I am the only person without a college degree. /anecdote

Your year abroad in high school, time abroad in the military, plus whatever technical, cultural, historical and language training you got in the military, means your education isn’t “just” high school.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:36:21am

And a quick run over to FR shows those Freepers who aren’t still holding out hope that the shooter is Muslim (wingers, how long has it been since you were right?) are already hitting the “false flag” button.

And the next shooter/bomber will tell himself that he’s only acting out because the “Deep State” is working so hard to destroy conservatives that they have “no choice” but to “fight back.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:36:37am

I have to decompress. Just putting on some music.

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sagehen  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:36:42am

re: #326 Hecuba’s daughter

Probably depends on the field of study. I don’t think that applies to engineers.

Or accountants, or MBAs.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:37:14am

Press: Mister President will you relook gun laws?
DT: …if they had better protection inside…

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:38:15am

I love a good conspiracy theory, because I used to be a heavy-duty JFK assassination conspiracy theorist back when it was still cool (before Oliver Stone ruined it for everyone), and an even heavier-duty UFO nut around the same time. I don’t really remember exactly when I abandoned those beliefs, or what the specific turning point was, but I do remember that it was very sudden, like a light switch being turned on.

I know very well the internal logic of conspiracy thinking, and I have to say that by the standards of Dealey Plaza-lurking goons and UFO-spotting kooks, conspiracy theories in the age of Trump are embarrassingly stupid.

Among the stupidest I’ve seen so far have to do with the goofy-ass decor of the MAGAbomber’s van. RWNJ intellectual beacons like convicted felon Dinesh D’Sousa and famous junkie Rush Limbaugh have asserted that the shit plastered all over the guy’s van isn’t faded and sun-bleached, and that somehow indicates it’s all a hoax. Because obviously there’s no way he could have started on a batshit poster binge at the same time he decided to start building bombs, and both new hobbies couldn’t possibly be parts of the same mental process.

I find it really sad that these fucking idiots can find more than 3 people to listen to them. Frankly, I blame Alex Jones for commercializing conspiracy theories and dumbing them down for the lowest common mainstream kook denominator. He McDonald’s the shit out of fringe lunacy. When your parents and grandparents are conspiracy theorists, it’s just not cool anymore.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:38:26am

re: #334 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Press: Mister President will you relook gun laws?
DT: …if they had better protection inside…

“Bring the death penalty into vogue”
actual quote

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:38:32am

re: #331 Targetpractice

And a quick run over to FR shows those Freepers who aren’t still holding out hope that the shooter is Muslim (wingers, how long has it been since you were right?) are already hitting the “false flag” button.

And the next shooter/bomber will tell himself that he’s only acting out because the “Deep State” is working so hard to destroy conservatives that they have “no choice” but to “fight back.”

I thought it was already down that since this was a Conservative Synagogue, that this was anti-conservative terrorism? Better buy moar gunz!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:39:13am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:39:24am

Back for one minute to post this pic of liberal violence that should NOT be tolerated.

Anymouse? Where were you when this happened? A zillion updings if you did this.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:40:17am

re: #338 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Trump engages in the only thing he knows how to do: Victim-blaming.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:40:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:40:46am

re: #322 HappyWarrior

There’s always exceptions but I really do think post high school education prepares people for dealing with a wide range of people.

I’m pretty sure that’s true as well. Unfortunately for me, there was no money. (My mother didn’t complete college until 1974, and the money was there only because of the widow education death benefit of the original GI Bill.)

The military does the same (since there are people from every part of the nation), and many deploy to different countries. (In the gastronomic department, I never would have heard of HP Sauce or Nutella, but I digress.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:41:04am

re: #335 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I love a good conspiracy theory, because I used to be a heavy-duty JFK assassination conspiracy theorist back when it was still cool (before Oliver Stone ruined it for everyone), and an even heavier-duty UFO nut around the same time. I don’t really remember exactly when I abandoned those beliefs, or what the specific turning point was, but I do remember that it was very sudden, like a light switch being turned on.

I know very well the internal logic of conspiracy thinking, and I have to say that by the standards of Dealey Plaza-lurking goons and UFO-spotting kooks, conspiracy theories in the age of Trump are embarrassingly stupid.

Among the stupidest I’ve seen so far have to do with the goofy-ass decor of the MAGAbomber’s van. RWNJ intellectual beacons like convicted felon Dinesh D’Sousa and famous junkie Rush Limbaugh have asserted that the shit plastered all over the guy’s van isn’t faded and sun-bleached, and that somehow indicates it’s all a hoax. Because obviously there’s no way he could have started on a batshit poster binge at the same time he decided to start building bombs, and both new hobbies couldn’t possibly be parts of the same mental process.

I find it really sad that these fucking idiots can find more than 3 people to listen to them. Frankly, I blame Alex Jones for commercializing conspiracy theories and dumbing them down for the lowest common mainstream kook denominator. He McDonald’s the shit out of fringe lunacy. When your parents and grandparents are conspiracy theorists, it’s just not cool anymore.

El Rushbo came before Alex Jones; he opened the door for Jones type lunacy, and now Rush has to try to match it because that is what sells. Its like a feedback loop as the Right spirals deeper into insanity.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:43:42am

re: #338 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Or the “armed security” would have just been the first one shot

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:44:33am

re: #335 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

[clip]

I find it really sad that these fucking idiots can find more than 3 people to listen to them. Frankly, I blame Alex Jones for commercializing conspiracy theories and dumbing them down for the lowest common mainstream kook denominator. He McDonald’s the shit out of fringe lunacy. When your parents and grandparents are conspiracy theorists, it’s just not cool anymore.

Well, before him, there was Art Bell and Coast-to-Coast AM.

And as that old Harper’s article I posted yesterday, conspiracy theories go all the way back to the founding of the Republic. (They note in that article the first conspiracy theory to really take off was when the Federalist Party promoted the Bavarian Illuminati conspiracy about the Democratic-Republican Party in 1799.)

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:45:02am

I’ve got to get away from this stuff right now. I’m angry and heartbroken and angry. Did I mention that I’m ANGRY?!?

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:45:38am

Media: “Maybe he’ll be presidential this time. Perhaps now he can rise above his base nature and be the man this nation needs in its time of crisis!”

Trump: “They shoulda had armed guards!”

Media: *sigh* “Oh well, maybe next time.”

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:45:42am

re: #306 Anymouse 🌹

I said exactly that, word for word, 2 years ago. Mr Stonekettle (*if that is his REAL NAME*) blocked me on Twitter for reasons I’m not sure about, but I am 100% sure it was trivial and petty.

Tom Nichols, whom I like a lot despite his repeated attempts at dissuasion, blocked me because I asked how it’s handled on TV studio sets like Jeopardy and CNN, etc when someone emits a heinous silent-but-deadly fart. You *know* it happens. Do they have an intern who waves it away with a cue card, or do they all have to sit there and marinate in it until the commercial break? Sometimes they dab sweat or stray hairs away from the faces of TV guests between segments. What do they do for farts? It was a legitimate question.

Yes, I am permanently 12.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:47:03am
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mmmirele  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:48:08am

*sigh* I want to go back to Japan.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:50:02am

re: #349 Anymouse 🌹

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Hey Marco, quick question: Would you be saying this if the shooter wore a turban and his name was “Mohammad”? No? THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:53:12am
Why is it so hard to accept that a clearly deranged man carried out deranged acts? The “false flag” conspiracy theories on one side & the “it’s Trump’s fault” on the other shows how unhinged politics has become. This isn’t incivility. It’s a society that has lost common sense.

Marco Rubio chastises people for speculating, speculates man is deranged and both-siderises the issue.

Tell me Marco, which party is it which attracts people who would shout “Death to All Jews?” Which ideology is it which spreads throughout the history of the country conspiracies about Masons, Catholics, immigrants, abolitionists, suffragettes, abortion rights, Jews, atheists, LGBT, &c.

If you guessed “Conservative” you get a Kewpie doll.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:54:11am
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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:55:29am

Wingnuts who are still trying to rationalize away the MAGABomber now have another champion to defend.

F*ck those guys, I hope they all get voted out.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:56:27am

The people who scream constantly that all Muslims are terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers because “Their religion calls on them to kill non-believers!” are now trying to convince us that their own hateful ideology cannot lead to terrorism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:56:44am

So, Mr. Trump, what should be the penalty for incitement to murder?

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:58:53am

re: #356 Anymouse 🌹

So, Mr. Trump, what should be the penalty for incitement to murder?

Mr President, should the MAGA Bomber get the death penalty?

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 9:59:15am

re: #335 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:00:18am

Muslim terrorist = they’re all evil!!!!!

White terrorist = Hey. Don’t lump us all in with that guy!

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:00:54am

re: #355 Targetpractice

The people who scream constantly that all Muslims are terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers because “Their religion calls on them to kill non-believers!” are now trying to convince us that their own hateful ideology cannot lead to terrorism.

Slavery, genocide, discrimination, all justified in the Bible.

And the “we’re under a new covenant” people are deflecting because that’s in the New Testament too.

Manifest Destiny was justified by the Bible. Every Confederate state used the Bible to justify slavery. Segregation was justified with the Bible. Opposition to abortion (never mentioned in the New Testament) is justified by the Bible, though there’s a procedure outlined for it in the Old Testament (and killing a foetus was a property crime if it wasn’t your foetus).

It’s almost as if a) They haven’t read their own book, or b) lying about it. Neither is really convincing to me about why I should believe as they.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:02:00am

So, MSNBC just reported that the terrorist’s social media included anti-trump comments. Trump was a globalist, not a nationalist. And, that he didn’t vote for trump

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:02:03am

re: #357 b.d.(soros funded)

Mr President, should the MAGA Bomber get the death penalty?

Should the person who weaponised him get the death penalty?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:05:12am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, MSNBC just reported that the terrorist’s social media included anti-trump comments. Trump was a globalist, not a nationalist. And, that he didn’t vote for trump

Not sure what to think about that. He could be a politically-unaffiliated anti-Semite.

Scratch the surface though, “globalist” has long been code for “Jew,” and such people tend to be conservatives even if they didn’t vote for the GOP. The issue is the ideology, not the person he supports, as conservatism is a religion.

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Skandal  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:06:58am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:07:06am
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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:08:58am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:09:03am

re: #364 Skandal

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Nyet  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:09:25am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Correct, he criticized Trump from the right.

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retired cynic  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:10:01am

re: #272 calochortus

… I’ve voted on everything from the old behemoths with levers, to punch cards, to various systems of marking paper ballots. Given the choice, I’d go back a decade to when we had the paper ballots that we marked by filling in the middle part of an arrow pointing to the candidate’s name and fed into a scanner at the polling place. It was easy to see who you were voting for, could be tabulated quickly and was not subject to a lot of technical difficulties.

We still do that, at our friendly local polling place. Town of <100 folks.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:10:51am

re: #363 Anymouse 🌹

Not sure what to think about that. He could be a politically-unaffiliated anti-Semite.

Scratch the surface though, “globalist” has long been code for “Jew,” and such people tend to be conservatives even if they didn’t vote for the GOP. The issue is the ideology, not the person he supports, as conservatism is a religion.

On his Gab page he actually calls Trump a globalist.

Here’s a link to screen shots of his Gab page. The page has been deleted now, but this guy capped most of it.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:12:42am
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:16:30am

re: #364 Skandal

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It’s never the time because conservatives only want to talk about guns when the subject is “How can we get more?” This crowd loves shootings like these because it means sales of AR-15 clones will get a bump from wingnuts rushing to get more “Before they’re banned!!!!!”

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b.d.(soros funded)  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:20:30am

re: #371 goddamnedfrank

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So this right wing shooter thinks Trump isn’t conservative enough?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:25:48am

re: #369 retired cynic

We still do that, at our friendly local polling place. Town of <100 folks.

I live in the big city by comparison.

Voting here used to be at the fire hall, with polling station staffed by volunteers, and two different ballots (those for people in the village, and those out in the township who cannot vote in our village board or cemetery board elections).

The state decided that in rural areas, transporting election materials and polling stations many miles to each township was expensive, and the fiscally-conservative option was mail voting.

When I moved here, they had just eliminated polling stations in the village. Now they have been completely eliminated in the state except Omaha, Lincoln, and South Sioux City (and in those places you can optionally request mail ballots).

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:26:27am
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dangerman  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:28:11am

re: #355 Targetpractice

The people who scream constantly that all Muslims are terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers because “Their religion calls on them to kill non-believers!” are now trying to convince us that their own hateful ideology cannot lead to terrorism.

All Dems/leftists are…..
All Muslims are…

There is no representative republican…

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Skip Intro  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:30:12am

re: #375 goddamnedfrank

Nice stenography, like always, Mags.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:30:51am

re: #364 Skandal

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Dear Lawrence Tribe, why are you asking when it will be time to talk about guns? Isn’t pretty clear by now that in America you are not allowed to talk about guns?

All we can do now, is seems, is just be victims of them.

The NRA runs this country. Just ask the Russians. They knew enough to use the NRA to back-door donations to the Republicans to protect the NRA over American citizens.

This is how it works now.

Since you are into Constitutional law and all, I suggest you ask Supreme Court Justice Roberts why big money is more important than individuals. Your time would be better spent asking about that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:34:42am

re: #209 I Would Prefer Not To

What are the odds of two lizards sharing the prize?

If you win, would you share it with me? /s

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:41:05am

re: #379 Anymouse 🌹

Are talking about the Powerball? If you are I am in the pool at work and we have the winning ticket.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:42:16am

Just got what I guess would be a charity pitch call framed as a push poll:

Our firefighters and EMS work incredibly dangerous jobs. Do you think they deserve our support? (1 for yes, 2 for no)

Click.

I already support my volunteer fire brigade/EMS (which is organised as a not-for-profit) by directly giving them cash.

Yes their jobs can be very dangerous. That’s not why I donate money to them. I think their service is important and necessary.

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austin_blue  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:44:10am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

NO NO NO! That’s the temple I went to when I was at Pitt! NO! NO! NO!

What the fuck?!?!

I am so sorry.

This goes out to everyone.

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plansbandc  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:46:42am

re: #339 I Would Prefer Not To

This made me laugh like a loon.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:48:13am

Imagine my shock to discover the Synagogue shooter was a middled aged white dude.

And yet we’re supposed to be terrified of a group of hungry, unarmed families heading for our border.

FUCK Trump and everything he has done to fuck up this country.

And FUCK every last person in Congress who’s enabled him, too.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:48:14am

re: #361 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So, MSNBC just reported that the terrorist’s social media included anti-trump comments. Trump was a globalist, not a nationalist. And, that he didn’t vote for trump

Yeah, but guess who supports Neo-Nazis? Trump supporters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:48:17am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:49:05am
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:49:55am
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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:50:11am

re: #387 Blind Frog Belly White

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Maggie Haberman, master of the fucking obvious.

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Archangelus  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:53:14am
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PhillyPretzel  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:57:01am

re: #390 Archangelus

DT will never drop anything to go to where there is any problem. He is afraid of people who do not praise him. And like most bullies he is a coward.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:57:32am

re: #390 Archangelus

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Another tragedy, another “I’ll say something at my rally” bit so that the media will give him more free air time tuning in just to get a short snippet about “unifying” before he launches back into his boilerplate fear-mongering.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:59:11am

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:59:21am

re: #375 goddamnedfrank

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Trump is a gun jobs creator. Just think of all the public buildings that require armed guards now.

Would it surprise anyone if the Republicans and Trump will pass laws that require any public building in the US to have to have armed guards any time the building is open?

Hell, why stop there…just pass a law that anyone over 18 has to pack.

The NRA would be all for that.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:59:33am

re: #391 PhillyPretzel

DT will never drop anything to go to where there is any problem. He is afraid of people who do not praise him. And like most bullies he is a coward.

He never goes anywhere unless he knows ahead of time that the locals have a prepared photo op waiting for him.

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Teddy's Person  Oct 27, 2018 • 10:59:41am

Just exercised my RIGHT to vote, from the comfort of my own couch no less. Teddy and I will take a little stroll later to drop it in the mail. In addition, I bought the winning Powerball ticket this morning. Life is good today.

Edit: My heart goes out to Pittsburg today.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:00:58am

Menwhile, Stephen Miller, Jared Kushner and Zina Bash keep working for the administration that made all this possible.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:04:34am

Hell, we already know what he’s going to say. He’ll give a few words about how we have to “unify,” before launching into yet another attack on the media for saying mean things about him. And the media will dutifully hug their “Both Sides” security blankets by mumbling about how Obama once said something mean about Faux.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:04:49am

re: #339 I Would Prefer Not To

Back for one minute to post this pic of liberal violence that should NOT be tolerated.

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Anymouse? Where were you when this happened? A zillion updings if you did this.

I’m sorry, I was four hundred miles away at home (but a vandal would say that, wouldn’t he).

I saw that post shortly after it went up and laughed my head off.

Rep. Fortenberry went crazy on social media, demanding the Lincoln police investigate this crime of vandalism.

I proposed there was two possibilities here, since he never said anything afterward about whether he spoke to the homeowner:

a) It really was a googly-eyed “crime” similar to that in Savannah with the Revolutionary War monument, where 2 seconds of pulling off the googly eyes would fix it, or the more conspiratorial idea

b) the person in question is actually an opponent of Rep. Fortenberry, obtained one of his signs, and did that to his own sign (not a crime).

Since our esteemed NE-1 representative hasn’t followed up on this, I’m going with b.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:05:57am

Right now I’m feeling pretty sorry for HIAS.
I’m sure the inundation of hate and harassment has already begun

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:09:05am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:09:57am

re: #401 goddamnedfrank

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These Presstitutes will always spin the both sides do it shit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:15:04am

re: #391 PhillyPretzel

DT will never drop anything to go to where there is any problem. He is afraid of people who do not praise him. And like most bullies he is a coward.

And this was literally a no-brainer for Trump (which might explain why he didn’t call the Clintons or Obamas).

I could write the statement to read on the phone:

Mr. Obama, Mrs. Clinton, I am deeply sorry this happened to you, and outraged that someone would make such a brazen attack. As President, I am glad no one was hurt.

The FBI, ATF, and other law enforcement agencies are already working on finding the perpetrators, and when we do we will bring them to justice.

Put that out to the press after it’s done, Trump looks like he’s compassionate and a uniter against political violence. Gets press (since that’s what he’s interested in) for quite a while (this is the day Mr. Trump became presidential), sympathy from the public regardless of political stripe, &c.

I imagine someone on his staff might have even written something like that. For Mr. Trump, he can’t make such a call about him or his supporters.

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Teddy's Person  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:16:31am

re: #400 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Right now I’m feeling pretty sorry for HIAS.
I’m sure the inundation of hate and harassment has already begun

I found a forgotten $140 in my desk drawer this week. Yesterday, I was thinking of donating some it to the Dem house candidate for my district. Today, I decided to donate some to HIAS and some to the candidate.

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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:17:53am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:21:44am

re: #405 makeitstop

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I don’t even want to have that son of a CENSORED’s face on my computer screen. I am too heartsick over this. I’m just so scared that professors I knew may be victims and if they are I will be even more distraught than I am now.

I have to shut the computer down.

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ObserverArt  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:22:29am

re: #405 makeitstop

Julia Ioffe ✔
@juliaioffe
The gunman shot three cops.

Let’s not enter pertinent facts in this now. These are guns we are talking about. Facts and logic are not allowed in gun talk.

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Amory Blaine  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:33:02am

re: #406 Joe Bacon 🌹

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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:34:09am

re: #203 makeitstop

I ordered flea meds for Scout from Chewy. I’d always used Petsmart, but Chewy got the order out in record time, and for free.

Then last week, I got a ‘Greetings from Florida’ postcard from Chewy, with a hand-lettered note saying they hoped the flea meds were working well.

I like their style. I’m gonna stay with them for a while.

That’s how I feel about BarkBox. I love them. Lots.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:36:24am

re: #406 Joe Bacon 🌹

I don’t even want to have that son of a CENSORED’s face on my computer screen. I am too heartsick over this. I’m just so scared that professors I knew may be victims and if they are I will be even more distraught than I am now.

I have to shut the computer down.

Firefox and Chrome extension Make America Kittens Again fixes that with him, and a number of other Republican politicians. Additionally, you can add other people’s names.

addons.mozilla.org (Firefox)
chrome.google.com (Chrome)

Both extensions also work on Twitter images.

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Targetpractice  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:36:41am

Personally, I believe that Donny is privately seething with rage over the events of the last 72 hours. When this week started, the press was spending more and more time talking about the caravan, with even journalists usually critical of him beginning to jump on the “Ban them all!” bandwagon. He was all prepared for a big showdown with blue state governors, putting soldiers on the border and the images that that would create.

Then the first bombs turned up, and he probably thought “It’s gotta be a hoax” or even entertained the possibility that a bomb would turn up at the White House and he could play the victim. But no bomb ever showed up in his mailbox or those of any other conservatives, every target was a Democrat that he personally hated. And quickly the press that had been working around to giving him praise was again at his throat, only this time it was for being…well, him.

So he gave a few prepared words about “unity” and “being nice,” while he hoped the investigation would drag out and possibly even lead to a Democrat. “Can’t be one of ours, we don’t do that!” he told himself quietly. He even bought into the idea that it was all a “false flag,” the Democrats deliberately sending bombs to themselves to gain sympathy and get bad news off the TV. But then a MAGAt was arrested, and another shot up a synagogue the day after. When you’re convinced that there’s a massive conspiracy against you, how else do you make sense of the events of this week other than to believe that it’s all a “Deep State” effort to defeat your moment of “glory”?

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:41:57am

re: #411 Targetpractice

People were upset in some fora that the bombing attempts as they were happening were bad because they were pushing the humanitarian crisis which is the so-called caravan out of the news.

My opinion then and remains that the bombing coverage was good, because it took air away from the xenophobic narrative about “an invasion.”

Folks on social media were demanding the Army, suggesting they should be shot, &c. That’s all gone.

That doesn’t mean I prefer the bombings and shooting this morning to the caravan coverage. I would much rather find some other way to put the caravan fear-mongering out of the news. Unfortunately it takes something dramatic (or manufactured drama) to get in the news.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:44:37am

Jim Wright apologises for an unintended insensitive comment.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:46:19am

re: #413 Anymouse 🌹

At least with Stonekettle he means it. It is real.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:47:16am

re: #400 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Right now I’m feeling pretty sorry for HIAS.
I’m sure the inundation of hate and harassment has already begun

I am going to donate to HIAS. F*ck the haters

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wrenchwench  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:52:32am

Today is my last Saturday as owner of a bike shop. New owner takes over next Thursday. To ‘celebrate’, I swept the sidewalk and washed the windows. New guy doesn’t even ‘think he’ll need’ the free week of me being here which has been offered. Yesterday, I was sad when he told me that. Today I’m OK with it.

To celebrate the sportsball event of yesterday (to this AM, I guess) I put on the Ry Cooder Chavez Ravine CD, and clicked the ‘repeat’ button. I will let it play 18 times, with enjoyment of each occasion.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:52:55am
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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 11:56:54am
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MsJ  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:01:12pm

Two hours at the grocery store and I come back to mass murder.

I was completely unaware until I picked up this thread where I left off before I headed out.

I’m speechless. Devastated. Sad.

My country is rudderless.

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PhillyPretzel  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:03:17pm

re: #419 MsJ

I agree. This is a total mess.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:04:31pm
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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:05:11pm

The country has a rudder; there’s one party in power blocking us from putting it in the water.

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Anymouse 🌹  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:06:27pm

re: #419 MsJ

Two hours at the grocery store and I come back to mass murder.

I was completely unaware until I picked up this thread where I left off before I headed out.

I’m speechless. Devastated. Sad.

My country is rudderless.

I’m sorry you came back to this horror. I’m about to log out and get some rest.

Unfortunately, this sort of violence is our country and always has been. Antisemitism, bombing and shooting churches associated with African-Americans, SS Saint Louis, anti-immigrant violence, that is exactly what this country always has been.

What is different now is the twenty-four hour news, cell phones with cameras, and the Internet. What would be local news is international news in minutes.

While the Twitter troll in the White House is signaling these sorts to come out from under their rocks, they are also being documented and sent everywhere. Such people whinge loudly within a day or two they find themselves fired from jobs and shunned by family and friends.

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jaunte  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:08:48pm
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makeitstop  Oct 27, 2018 • 12:16:25pm

If I lived somewhere else, I sure as fuck wouldn’t come here.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Oct 27, 2018 • 1:19:27pm

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll defend Art Bell, for a number of reasons. I listened to Art Bell for a long time. Bell always sounded to me, even when I was eager to believe All The Things, like a weird guy broadcasting out of his trailer in the middle of the Nevada desert. I never heard him rant and rave like a madman, which separates him (in my estimation) from Alex Jones. Obliquely related side note: if you ignore content completely, there are pretty much no broadcasters in recent memory with a cadence and delivery as brilliantly suited to late-night radio as Art Bell.

I liken him to certain televangelists of the 1980s. Art Bell was more like Robert Tilton than he was like Pat Robertson. Both Tilton and Robertson are reprehensible, but Tilton’s greed and personal depravity somehow lacked the malice and venom of a figure like Robertson.

I’m not saying Art Bell wasn’t a kook, nor am I saying he didn’t contribute in some way to the mess we’re in today. But I think his contribution to the National Crazy was a fart in a hurricane compared to other contributors like Limbaugh and all the other AM talkers you can think of.


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