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Kragar  Nov 1, 2018 • 6:52:27pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 6:56:07pm

re: #1 Kragar

And CNN tosses softball after softball at him even after he incites his thugs to chant “CNN Sucks”.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 6:57:20pm
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freetoken  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:11:09pm

Netanyahu likes to befriend dictators and wannabe-dictators:

Netanyahu congratulates Brazil on ‘historic’ plan to move Israel embassy to Jerusalem

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday hailed as “historic” Brazilian president-elect Jair Bolsonaro’s plan to move his country’s embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

“I congratulate my friend Brazilian president-elect Jair Bolsonaro for his intention to move the Brazilian embassy to Jerusalem, a historic, correct and exciting step!” Netanyahu said in a statement.

[…]

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:16:48pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:19:27pm

Left hanging on the previous thread (two comments)

re: #101 Anymouse 🌹

Court fight in Dodge City over opening a second polling place. Kris Kobach’s (R-epression) is arguing this would raise concerns over double voting.

kansas.com
(Wichita Eagle)

(more, with video)

TOPEKA

Opening a second polling location in Dodge City just days before the election could open the sites up to double voting, an official in Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach’s office said Thursday.

It would be impossible to compare the polling books of two polling places in real time to protect against double voting, said Bryan Caskey, the state director of elections.

“There’s no real time check” between the polling place and the state’s voter registration system, he said.

The League of United Latin American Citizens and 18-year-old first-time voter Alejandro Rangel-Lopez are suing Ford County Clerk Debbie Cox in federal court, seeking to force her to open a second polling location.

re: #86 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t help but note this stupid stunt sending troops to the Southern border is going down right before Veterans Day. Great fucking optics there, boys.

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

Trump gets his military parade, albeit in Texas.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:30:51pm

re: #4 freetoken

Netanyahu likes to befriend dictators and wannabe-dictators:

Netanyahu congratulates Brazil on ‘historic’ plan to move Israel embassy to Jerusalem

That’s right Bibi, go ahead and promote nationalist racists. Because that always works out great for the Jews.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:33:37pm
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:40:37pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:42:21pm

re: #8 Belafon

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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:44:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:46:04pm
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ipsos  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:47:08pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

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Does any polling model even begin to take that into account in modeling the electorate?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:49:45pm

When fear-mongering doesn’t work, lie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:51:16pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹

When fear-mongering doesn’t work, lie.

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This reeks of James O’Keefe.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:51:37pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:52:01pm

re: #12 Anymouse 🌹

But how many of those votes is Brian Kemp trying to invalidate?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:52:27pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

But how many of those votes is Brian Kemp trying to invalidate?

All of them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:53:45pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

This reeks of James O’Keefe.

Sean Hannity cites a Project Veritas video.

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Chrysicat  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:54:12pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:55:43pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

This reeks of James O’Keefe.

That is James O’Keefe.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:57:11pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:57:18pm

re: #9 Belafon

Preet Bharara

@PreetBharara
Did they go for Surefire Intelligence because Stable Genius was taken?

The local mom & pop grocery store has a generic budget brand called SureFine. It was the first thing I thought of. Flavorless fake food.

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Chrysicat  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:58:28pm

re: #21 Skip Intro

So at this point do we assume there’s a Veritas mole in every last Dem campaign in the country, and no R ones?

Also, how does anyone talk in the campaign office when one staffer is guaranteed to be a Nazi provocateur/provocateuse?

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2018 • 7:59:25pm

Who could he be thinking of?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:00:10pm

Wonder if he’ll attack Kanye now that he’s backed away from politics.

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Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:01:17pm

re: #24 Chrysicat

We can be sure that every one of them has a permanent slot on Fox ” News”.

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Weaselone  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:02:09pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹

When fear-mongering doesn’t work, lie.

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Summary?

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Skip Intro  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:02:21pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

I love how self unaware Trump is. It’s amazing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:12:30pm

re: #17 stpaulbear

But how many of those votes is Brian Kemp trying to invalidate?

All of them, Katie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:16:33pm

re: #29 Skip Intro

I love how self unaware Trump is. It’s amazing.

“The symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder include: grandiose sense of importance, preoccupation with unlimited success, belief that one is special and unique, exploitative of others, lack of empathy, arrogance, and jealousy of others.”

Well, damn. This describes Trump to a fucking T.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:18:59pm

re: #24 Chrysicat

So at this point do we assume there’s a Veritas mole in every last Dem campaign in the country, and no R ones?

Also, how does anyone talk in the campaign office when one staffer is guaranteed to be a Nazi provocateur/provocateuse?

We don’t have to assume that, but candidates should consider vetting volunteers better.

I get the need of high-profile campaigns to enlist as many volunteers as possible. However, enlisting a rodent-copulator will ruin your campaign. The lesson of ACORN cannot be overstated.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:22:51pm

LOL, self-pwnage continues … Jacob Wohl can’t dig fast enough with a shovel, perhaps someone ought to offer him a steam shovel.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:24:07pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

Hey, Jacob, you got fired by SMOTI. That’s a real achievement.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:32:19pm

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:36:39pm

Is Trump actually serious about eliminating birthright citizenship by EO or is this just another ploy to excite his base to get to the polls? As we all know, he lies about everything.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:50:55pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Trump actually serious about eliminating birthright citizenship by EO or is this just another ploy to excite his base to get to the polls? As we all know, he lies about everything.

No, yes, of course.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:53:17pm

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Trump actually serious about eliminating birthright citizenship by EO or is this just another ploy to excite his base to get to the polls? As we all know, he lies about everything.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Steven Miller or Steve King or someone like them suggested it. That said, the GOP has been after that issue all my life.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:57:39pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

We don’t have to assume that, but candidates should consider vetting volunteers better.

I get the need of high-profile campaigns to enlist as many volunteers as possible. However, enlisting a rodent-copulator will ruin your campaign. The lesson of ACORN cannot be overstated.

Campaigns cannot afford to investigate volunteers — they are delighted that someone is willing to help out. I’ve worked at a low level for several candidates for House; they would never suspect that a volunteer was actively trying to sabotage a campaign. It’s possible some high profile campaigns may place spies among their competitors for information. I just don’t know how our political system can survive if we have to be suspicious of everyone around us.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:59:19pm

Stuff from my area of the Left Coast:

- I dropped the ballots for our daughter, son, my wife and myself in the drive-up drop box outside our City Hall/Cop Shop. Four voters, three independents and one Democrat, all voting straight down the ticket for Democrats and their positions on the five Measures that are up. As usual, four of the five are wingnut faves (cut public funding of abortions & services, a constitution change to assure tax-free groceries - that happens to constitutionally lock in low tax rates for grocery chains, screwing over small grocery stores which explains Kroger throwing tons of money at it), allow our law enforcement to cooperate with Hair Furor’s Immigration Strike Force and finally, change the Oregon Constitution so that any tax increases require 60% legislative support for passage. This last one is an attempt by Republicans to wrest some legislative control from the Democrats, to which we all voted ‘fuck that shit’. Same with the other three measures. The one Democratic one was for affordable housing, which we voted for.

In addition, although our local candidates for city positions are non-partisan (lol), they are anything but that this year as the Democrats have finally stepped up and are targeting our small towns with handy post cards that list that city’s candidates that they recommend. Conservatives have pretty much run the town for years and this year they are getting some competition. More on that after the election as I have some humorous news that I want to share about a local candidate that we’re supporting and right now we want to see him win first.

- The Repub candidate for Governor is Knute Buehler (I call him K-noot as that makes me think of K-Fed, lol) and it’s hilarious to see every single mailer of his is completely lacking in the color red. Instead, he’s using a blue with a slight purple tinge to it. It’s like he has an allergy to red.

- Dallas Heard, a Republican who is running for the state senate, has no problem with the color red. His mailers have red splashed all over them. The problem for him is that his latest mailer pleading for votes has a portrait-type picture of him smiling, in a suit and tie with what looks like a half inch wide strip of silver duct tape that runs vertically from just above his left eyebrow to just below his eye, just to the left of the bridge of his nose so it covers the inside white of his left eye. It looks like Heard stuck some duct tape on his face or he tore his skin off and he’s nothing but duct tape underneath (that seems more likely to me). The really shitty thing about this guy is that his family ‘farm’ runs a 12 million gallon wastewater facility and he’s hot about property owners having every property right they can for their land (it’s easy to guess why with a farm like that).

- Halloween night: As usual, all of my conservative neighbors closed their blinds and turned off their porch lights so the kids would know that they are assholes. I thought it was considerate of them because it made our house, one of three decorated on our block, stand out real well. This allowed us to spend four hours shoveling lots of treats into kids bags. Oh, and scaring the crap out of them. My wife get the credit for that as she runs the ‘decorate the house’ show here, I’m just the tech and roadie for her. Dropping spiders, howling and jiggling plants with glowing eyes in them, shrieking wildcats, moaning ghouls and more, all triggered by sound and motion. Lots of lights, toothy pumpkins with flickering green and red lights in them, lots of fake web and too much more to mention, and boy does it work. This year one woman told us that she used to come here as a kid and it scared the crap out of her, and here she was with her husband bringing their daughter to scare the crap out of her. I think we were too successful because when her Mom asked her how she liked the place, she said that she never wanted to come back because it was too scary. Frequently we have to come down the porch and steps to give the scared lil’ peeps their candy…lol!

My wife got lots of compliments and a good time was had by all. Well, except for my asshole conservative neighbors… but that’s a conservative for you.

Miserable.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:59:21pm

I think they got those labeled backwards.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 8:59:32pm

re: #39 Hecuba’s daughter

We laugh at O’Keefe and anyone who believes his crap.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:01:04pm

re: #39 Hecuba’s daughter

Campaigns cannot afford to investigate volunteers — they are delighted that someone is willing to help out. I’ve worked at a low level for several candidates for House; they would never suspect that a volunteer was actively trying to sabotage a campaign. It’s possible some high profile campaigns may place spies among their competitors for information. I just don’t know how our political system can survive if we have to be suspicious of everyone around us.

I don’t mean hiring a private investigator or something. Social media and image searches on the Internet are pretty cheap to do though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:02:15pm

re: #41 Single-handed sailor

I think they got those labeled backwards.

Not a big fan of attacking someone over looks (for example, her lazy eye). My wife has the same condition.

I would much rather attack her over her stated lies positions.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:02:45pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t mean hiring a private investigator or something. Social media and image searches on the Internet are pretty cheap to do though.

Not foolproof.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:05:33pm

re: #24 Chrysicat

So at this point do we assume there’s a Veritas mole in every last Dem campaign in the country, and no R ones?

Also, how does anyone talk in the campaign office when one staffer is guaranteed to be a Nazi provocateur/provocateuse?

In a typical campaign, a person who proposes outrageous stunts would be ignored and not treated seriously — and may eventually be asked to leave if they aren’t helping out with operations.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:06:34pm

LOL Pharrell Williams in the opening of the Late Show with Stephen Cobert last night (1:14)

Pharrell Isn’t ‘Happy’ With Donald Trump

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:08:20pm

re: #46 Hecuba’s daughter

In a typical campaign, a person who proposes outrageous stunts would be ignored and not treated seriously — and may eventually be asked to leave if they aren’t helping out with operations.

The last time I ran for office, I once jokingly suggested perhaps I should hire a blimp to fly over town with a campaign message.

Several folks who have run various campaigns in the past flooded my E-mail box suggesting how they could do this and how much they would charge for that service.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:15:17pm

Here’s a couple of tunes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:19:14pm

Stephen Cobert also went after Jacob Wohl …

A Twitter Troll Tried To Frame Robert Mueller

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:20:06pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

You can actually purchase that on Etsy.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:21:28pm
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:21:46pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:22:45pm

re: #41 Single-handed sailor

I think they got those labeled backwards.

Ayup…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:23:03pm

re: #52 Belafon

In an alternate timeline, Goliath pulled out an M-16 and killed David and his entire army.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:34:58pm

re: #52 Belafon

I’m not sure what would be worse: A military coup, or a mutiny.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:36:53pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:39:41pm

China is there to capitalize on every country Trump alienates.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:44:44pm

re: #56 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not sure what would be worse: A military coup, or a mutiny.

I wonder how many on the right would get rattled if the military just didn’t follow the orders he gave on the border?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:46:27pm

re: #57 Nyet

Well, that deserves a report to YouTube. (I cannot make one as I do not have a Google account.)

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:47:44pm

Are we sure the GOP isn’t the Know Nothing Party?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:48:01pm

Things normal people don’t think…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:48:48pm

re: #59 Belafon

I wonder how many on the right would get rattled if the military just didn’t follow the orders he gave on the border?

That’s the problem. If the military refuses an order from the civilian government, that’s the start of a military coup. If there was a mutiny, then you might have military units fighting each other.

Either one would be bad. The ideal is no one gives the military illegal orders.

My guess would be a bunch of armed yahoos might decide to take on the military (good luck with that) for not following the God Emperor of Loon’s orders.

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:51:42pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

Things normal people don’t think…..

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If he shaved, maybe his chin wouldn’t look so… where’s your chin?????

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:52:32pm

re: #62 Dave In Austin

Things normal people don’t think…..

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Donnie Jr’s worried that his ass is gonna end up in Federal prison - this is simply a preemptive PR strike on his part because he’s obviously scared shitless that Mueller is probably going to indict him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 1, 2018 • 9:52:42pm

Idiots start grass fire with incendiary shotgun shells:

Dragons Breath Shot From Saiga-12 BE SAFE WITH THIS UNIQUE 12GA SHELL!

This is the stuff, 12 Gauge Flame Thrower - Dragons Breath - 3 Units Per Package

FLAME THROWER CAN now be sent regular FED EX Ground. Normally only $16.00 for s&h.

The “Flame Thrower” round as pictured produces an enormous wall of fire for 100+ feet. The incendiary metal compound contained inside burns when fired at over 4000 degrees fahrenheit, showering your target in a momentary wall of flame. Because magnesium is an ingredient in this payload you will need to clean your gun after you use this round.

I don’t foresee much of a home defense application for this, though arsonists may find it very useful.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:00:20pm

re: #53 Belafon

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:00:24pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Idiots start grass fire with incendiary shotgun shells:

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Video

This is the stuff, 12 Gauge Flame Thrower - Dragons Breath - 3 Units Per Package

I don’t foresee much of a home defense application for this, though arsonists may find it very useful.

The perfect round for California.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:05:17pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Idiots start grass fire with incendiary shotgun shells:

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I don’t foresee much of a home defense application for this, though arsonists may find it very useful.

Quoting from the very beginning of the video: I didn’t think it would ricochet and go all the way back to the berm.

Chowderhead. Always know your target and what’s behind it. You thought a paper target would stop it?

This is the kind of guy who gives irresponsible gun owners a bad name.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:06:57pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ah yet another crop of Darwin Award winners!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:08:25pm

re: #68 Single-handed sailor

SCTV - Captain Combat

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:17:16pm

re: #68 Single-handed sailor

The perfect round for California.

Banned as all fuck here, but you can easily buy them in Arizona, Oregon and Nevada and then illegally drive them back. Like all novelty shotgun rounds they do the one thing I honestly can’t abide, strive to turn a firearm into a toy. Running burning magnesium through the barrel also seems like a really good way to ruin a shotgun.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:22:56pm

Chalk up another thing the right wing grievance machine would howl about if this was Michelle Obama:

Melania Trump’s overnight stay in Cairo during her October trip to Africa cost taxpayers $95,050, according to federal spending records.

The US first lady and her entourage spent the night at the Semiramis Intercontinental Cairo, which offers rooms starting at $119. The rate for the hotel’s presidential suite can be rented for $699, which includes $156.50 in taxes, per the property’s website.

Although a 2017 Fox News analysis of White House staffing data called the first lady’s office “one of the leanest East Wing operations in recent history,” the price tag for the one night she and her entourage stayed at the Semiramis Intercontinental Cairo was significantly higher than the $77,345.35 that the government spent on her husband’s two-night stay last July at his golf course in Scotland with, among others, son Eric, chief of staff John Kelly, press secretary Sarah Sanders, and social media director Dan Scavino.

msn.com

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:30:09pm
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DodgerFan1988  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:30:57pm

This is the enemy, according to Trump and the GOP.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:32:09pm

Mark Sanford isn’t endorsing, but he pretty much called Katie Arrington a liar (Charleston, SC City Paper)

Nice non-endorsement there, calling your GOP colleague a liar one week before an election.

Republicans and Democrats have been waiting to see whether Rep. Mark Sanford would endorse in the contest to determine who will replace him in Congress.

A week before Election Day, Sanford told the Post and Courier that he would not be backing anyone in the race, telling the paper that “part of leadership, at times, means knowing when it’s best to keep quiet.”

In an exit interview on Vox co-founder Ezra Klein’s podcast this week, Sanford riffs on his view of democracy in the age of Trump, celebrity politics, “latitude with the truth,” and the role that partisanship plays in governing.

About 52 minutes into the conversation, Sanford mentions his experience on the campaign trail with Rep. Katie Arrington, saying that there were times when she lied.

(with video)

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:36:00pm

Anybody see Ben Garrison’s latest masterpiece racist/misogynist propaganda?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:39:23pm

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

This is the enemy, according to Trump and the GOP.

Plenty of conservatives (and foreign rodent copulators) in that thread saying “do it the legal way” and other codswallop.

As many times as this has been explained (including people putting up screenshots and links of DHS rules to apply for asylum), they are terminally ignorant or willfully lying.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:41:56pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

Anybody see Ben Garrison’s latest masterpiece racist/misogynist propaganda?

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Does Garrison’s cartoons actually get published in respectable outlets, or are they just shared around by conservatives thinking how brilliant he is?

Considering how he labels everything right down to a pebble drawn on the ground, I think he knows his audience.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:42:44pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

Bizzare feed……

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:49:26pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Bizzare feed……

Well, there’s always my favourite. I’ll leave this one as I go off to bed. G’night y’all.

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Kragar  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:50:35pm
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Dave In Austin  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:52:10pm

I’ma scratching my head here, not that I put much faith in Twitter surveys

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:52:44pm

re: #82 Kragar

Donald Trump wants US troops to shoot her.

Whereas Betsy DeVos would prefer they shoot her parents, and sell her to “Christian” adoptive parents.

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ckkatz  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:55:02pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Idiots start grass fire with incendiary shotgun shells:

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I don’t foresee much of a home defense application for this, though arsonists may find it very useful.

Good Grief! That older guy in the foreground is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Yes, shooting in the vicinity of a wood frame house does have an alarming tendency to set the house on fire. Quite a few firefights between snipers and police end with the sniper either being forced out of a burning house or going up with it. And for some reason fire departments are decidedly unenthusiastic about attempting to put out a housefire in the middle of a firefight.

Somewhat off topic, I remember one set of night exercises in Ft McCoy, Wisconsin where another unit fired some flares. Our battalion along with everybody else got to spend the rest of the night putting out the resulting fires.

It was really enlightened self-interest since the fire was between us and any reasonable escape route.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 1, 2018 • 10:58:03pm

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

The last time I ran for office, I once jokingly suggested perhaps I should hire a blimp to fly over town with a campaign message.

Several folks who have run various campaigns in the past flooded my E-mail box suggesting how they could do this and how much they would charge for that service.

I should have described the situation differently — by outrageous, I didn’t mean an unusual stunt but something that might be suggested by the Nazi provocateur in the original post — a violent or racist action.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:03:18pm

It just keeps getting worse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:03:28pm

Kris Kobach gets advice from Steve Bannon, holds rally at GOP headquarters (Topeka Capital-Journal, more at the link):

Kris Kobach, the Republican nominee for Kansas governor, brought his get-out-the-vote tour to GOP headquarters Thursday evening in Topeka, where he was greeted by an anxious crowd anticipating a close outcome on election night.

The secretary of state appears to be locked in a dead heat with Democrat Laura Kelly, a state senator from Topeka, as moderates weigh their options between those two and independent Greg Orman.

A day earlier, Kobach met with Steve Bannon, the former White House strategist, who offered advice to his conservative confidant in the final days of the campaign.

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The scene at Republican headquarters was different Thursday from two days earlier, when the office was stripped of campaign signs that typically plaster its windows in the hour before Bannon arrived in Topeka. A throng of supporters greeted Kobach and congressional candidate Steve Watkins as they entered through the well-decorated facade.

Party leadership denied the makeover had anything to do with Bannon. Jim Joice, executive director of the Kansas Republican Party, described it as “a little rearranging and cleaning.”

“Just trying to make the place a litter nicer and clean up a tad in preparation for tons of volunteers and the bus tour coming by,” Joice said.

Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, D-Topeka, said he wasn’t buying Joice’s explanation. Hensley said the GOP scrubbed its signage and closed the office early in an effort to distance the party from a controversial figure.

“Bannon is such a lightning rod, they didn’t want him to show up at headquarters,” Hensley said. “They’ve always had signs in the window for as long as I can remember, and I just felt like it was very strange a week before the election that they would take the signs down, turn the lights off and send everybody home. That’s just not normal behavior for a state party to shut everything down a week before the election.”

(more)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:04:58pm

Tennessee Inmate Executed After Choosing The Electric Chair

Edmund Zagorski was executed by electric chair Thursday in a Nashville, Tenn., prison after challenging the constitutionality of lethal injection drugs and then choosing instead to die by electrocution.

When asked whether he had any last words, Zagorski, 63, simply replied, “Let’s rock.”

Zagorksi was the first man executed in the electric chair in Tennessee since 2007. He had been convicted in April 1983 of murdering two men — robbing them and slitting their throats during a drug deal.

His execution came after a flurry of legal maneuvering in recent weeks to delay the action. The U.S. Supreme Court Thursday night rejected an appeal to halt the execution. Zagorski had asked the high court to consider whether it was unconstitutional to force him to choose between lethal injection and lethal injection.

34 years on death row. Another inmate, 61-year-old David Earl Miller, has been there 37 years. He is scheduled for execution in December.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:10:40pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

It just keeps getting worse.

This is really looking like what they intended to do is loop in the press into reporting the story (note all the journalists they called), then originally the plan was to go to that Holiday Inn and report “see, it’s all fake news. Here’s the proof.”

When the press didn’t bite, they forged ahead as if all this is real, still trying to get the press to swallow the bait. There’s a woman claiming she was raped. Don’t liberals say “believe all women” you hypocrites? She fears for her safety but we promise she will come forward.

If the woman who’s signature they forged is a real person, I hope she sues Berkman into penury. (Wohl probably not worth anything.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:14:32pm

I’m off to bed … catch y’all later.

The Lawrence Welk Show: Adios, Au Revior, Aufweidersehn `78

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:15:57pm

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Idiots start grass fire with incendiary shotgun shells:

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I don’t foresee much of a home defense application for this, though arsonists may find it very useful.

It’s a fucking magnesium thermite round. Dog help your shotgun barrel, it is not long for this world.

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piratedan  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:29:23pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

well, to be fair, it IS an electronic signature put there by an automated DocuSign application, I’ve used said same type of stuff when applying for loans and signing loan documents.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:32:27pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

+ antisemitic.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:34:42pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

It just keeps getting worse.

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Pretty sure it is supposed to be a font. Nothingburger.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:35:51pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

It just keeps getting worse.

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Actually on further reflection that’s how DocuSign signatures look, you pick a font style that best approximates your signature and go with that. I forgot that I had to sign something using that system several years ago and that’s the way it worked. It’s still fucking weird and suspicious as hell that they went this route with a supposed accuser making such an explosive allegation, because DocuSigned signatures aren’t witnessed or notarized. The system essentially works by emailing a link to the email address of the person who is supposed to sign and is 100% trust based with no effort to verify identity. There’s also doesn’t appear to be any language about the information being attested to as true under penalty of perjury, so it’s basically masquerading as a legal document.

97
uriel  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:40:13pm

re: #80 Dave In Austin

Dude, man- trypophobia warning!

(Not all that serious, but I can tell that eyeball thing is definitely gonna screw with my journey to the land of nod.)

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piratedan  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:40:14pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

well, its entirely possible that these geniuses made a fake e-mail account, attributed it to her name and then used that to doctor up some authentication that allows no one to actually examine her actual signature, and if she doesn’t show up, there’s no way to say that it isn’t “her”.

There are literally zero checks that would allow you to authenticate this if they control the e-mail account because if they dummied up the accounts, naturally they have the passwords and they can pose as whomever they damn well please.

There’s no mechanism to pick it apart because its a closed loop, so you’d have to take it on faith (like these guys have earned ANY) that this is authentic…. and based on their modus operandi, only the most gullible (like the people that follow them) would accept this as any kind of proof of any kind….

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austin_blue  Nov 1, 2018 • 11:43:37pm

As a general comment, this election cycle has just gone completely off the rails. I have never seen, in my 62 years, anything close to this. The “president” is off the hook, spewing nothing but stream of consciousness lies.

He has ordered the military to the border to defend an “invasion”, consisting mostly of women and children, that is around 45 days away, by which time the military defenders of our borders will have stood down. He refers to our brave troops as a “human wall” when, if he spreads them evenly, will each be at least a mile apart.

Oh, and in a bit of absurd theater, Rafael Cruz rented a Piper Pawnee today which dragged a banner around downtown Austin (two entire circuits!) that had BETO, with a red circle and slash over it, with the rest of the banner reading “Because Socialism Sux!

I feel like I’m in the middle of an MST3000 convention, but it’s an actual national election.

Fuck me running. It’s BizzaroWorld.

Night all. Turnout by the 18-29 year cohort in Texas is up by 500%. God bless the kids in Florida for their “Vote for Your Life” tour.

That’s how grass roots is done.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:19:25am

Honestly I’m just trying to help Jacob out here LOL.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:29:19am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Honestly I’m just trying to help Jacob out here LOL.

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When he posted his “I’m a cool dude who smokes” pic, I wanted to point out to him that legal smoking age in CA was 21.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:30:57am

re: #101 Kragar

When he posted his “I’m a cool dude who smokes” pic, I wanted to point out to him that legal smoking age in CA was 21.

That’s a statewide thing in CA, eh? In Aspen you have to be 21 to buy tobacco as of last year.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:31:45am

re: #102 teleskiguy

Yeah, statewide as far as I know

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:33:45am

I’m imagining ol’ Jacob trying to get someone to buy him some Swisher Sweets outside a 7-11, so he can take a sick picture of him smoking and being cool.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:35:41am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

re: #101 Kragar

At this point, I’ve lost track of how many laws Jacob A(ss)Wohl has broken so far with this knucklehead stunt. It’s just one layer of stupid on top of the next, with no consideration that making it all very public is just making his legal defense impossible, short of claiming temporary insanity.

@popehat keeps reminding Wohl to listen to his lawyers and shut up, but like most other RWNJs who think they are all that and more, Wohl is forging on ahead. It’s no wonder he loves Trump. They’re birds of a feather, including their net liquidity.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:38:08am

re: #104 teleskiguy

I’m imagining ol’ Jacob trying to get someone to buy him some Swisher Sweets outside a 7-11, so he can take a sick picture of him smoking and being cool.

His pic would have been more effective if he (a) actually had a visible mustache and (b) had a real cigar and not one of those slim kinds. Also (c) clearer skin.

I wonder if he realizes how many people are laughing at him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:38:11am

re: #36 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Trump actually serious about eliminating birthright citizenship by EO or is this just another ploy to excite his base to get to the polls? As we all know, he lies about everything.

And it is a ploy to paint the Dems as a party that encourages terrorist anchor babies.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:39:24am

McNamara’s Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War

McNamara’s Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam War

A presentation and reading by Hamilton Gregory, author of “McNamara’s Folly: The Use of Low-IQ Troops in the Vietnam.” Because so many college students were avoiding military service during the Vietnam War, Defense Secretary Robert McNamara lowered mental standards to induct 354,000 low-IQ men. Their death toll in combat was appalling.

Also known as “McNamara’s 100,000.”

Project 100,000 (also McNamara’s 100,000) was a 1960s program by the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to recruit soldiers that would previously have been below military mental or medical standards. Project 100,000 was initiated by Defense Secretary Robert McNamara in October 1966 to meet the escalating manpower requirements during American involvement in the Vietnam War and ended in December 1971.

As far as I am concerned, Robert S. McNamara was one of the most evil and destructive people of the twentieth century. He had gone on to the World Bank by the time I joined the Army in 1969, but his legacy of bungling, arrogance, and cruelty remained with us for many years, and in many ways is still with us today.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:39:33am

re: #107 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And it is a ploy to paint the Dems as a party that encourages terrorist anchor babies.

Who are born holding live grenades

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:39:46am

re: #106 wheat-dogg

I wonder if he realizes how many people are laughing at him.

He’s just like Fuckface Von Clownstick in that he is incapable of shame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:52:33am

You might have read that Mexico offered temporary asylum to the caravan just to keep them away from the border, denying Trump a crisis to exploit, but he cannot back down from The Threat right now.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:56:52am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You might have read that Mexico offered temporary asylum to the caravan just to keep them away from the border, denying Trump a crisis to exploit, but he cannot back down from The Threat right now.

Mexico should tell the US it has to pay Mexico to harbor the refugees, like Trump told Mexico to pay for the wall.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 1:01:42am

Green Party candidate in Arizona US Senate race drops out and endorses Kyrsten Sinema.

12news.com

Polling has been neck-and-neck between Sinema and her Republican opponent, with the Green Party candidate polling at 6%.

Although early votes have already been cast, Angela Green’s endorsement of Kyrsten Sinema might be the push for Sinema to beat Martha McSally.

Ms. Green notes that Ms. Sinema’s positions are largely the same as her own, and blocking McSally is more important.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 1:45:29am

This picture was snapped on 6 May 2018, the day before my birthday. I’m the red hat.

My hat says “MAKE SKIING GREAT AGAIN” and I’m adorning it with pins from ski areas I’ve been to since I got the hat. There’s a few pins on that hat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 2, 2018 • 1:53:00am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹

Green Party candidate in Arizona US Senate race drops out and endorses Kyrsten Sinema.

12news.com

Polling has been neck-and-neck between Sinema and her Republican opponent, with the Green Party candidate polling at 6%.

Although early votes have already been cast, Angela Green’s endorsement of Kyrsten Sinema might be the push for Sinema to beat Martha McSally.

Ms. Green notes that Ms. Sinema’s positions are largely the same as her own, and blocking McSally is more important.

But what about her e-mails?

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 2, 2018 • 2:14:21am

re: #99 austin_blue

I’m right behind you in the years and I agree, shit has derailed. The Gish Gallop has been inundated by the Trump Tsunami. Open NAZIs running for office, right wing terrorism growing, racism no longer being subtle dog whistles but instead air raid sirens, alternative facts, outright lies and a metric shit-ton more. I find it difficult to comment on any one thing because it’s just an endless barrage of bullshit that never stops.

It depresses me that there are so many heartless people in our country. Unfortunately, in my lifetime I have come to the conclusion that too many people pay lip service to being good people. They may be good people within the part of the world they exist in but when it comes to walking a mile in the shoes of another? Not only no, but Hell no! These types will bust in to tears when their favorite pet falls ill and laugh like an ass at some innocent black guy who was wrongly killed by a cop. They will donate to help a family with a child that has cancer, but only if the kid is white.

In talking to these people I have learned that they love to talk about the misfortune in their lives, seeking my understanding and sympathy for their difficulties. I have also learned that they will laugh at the difficulties of those they don’t like, not stopping for one second to think they they themselves sought my sympathy when things were difficult for them.

I would call it selfishness but it’s much more than that. It’s a really nasty self-absorbed kind of selfishness. Almost childish in nature in some people. Combine that with racism, misogyny, homophobia, religious zealotry and then toss in Commander Chaos and his Ball-sucking Yes Men, you end up with where we are at today.

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freetoken  Nov 2, 2018 • 2:55:14am

re: #116 Odie Hugh Manatee

We are paying for past sins.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 2:59:57am

This is why Jon Stewart made Trevor Noah the host of The Daily Show. He’s a fuck an interviewer.

Andrew Gillum - Winning Hearts and Minds in Florida’s Gubernatorial Race | The Daily Show

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:08:00am

Ok, this Medium article is funny,

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:10:35am

Some long forgotten 90s music:

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:21:35am

re: #120 teleskiguy

Some long forgotten 90s music:

Under (Remastered Version)

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:23:22am
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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:26:25am

re: #120 teleskiguy

Some long forgotten 90s music:

Regurgitator - Track 1

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:26:58am

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:31:59am

re: #120 teleskiguy

Some long forgotten 90s music:

Super Car

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:34:29am

re: #92 austin_blue

Probably wouldn’t be safe to use in my model 59

The barrel is ultra light-weight. It is a metal tube that is wrapped in over 500 miles of fiber thread that fused and bonded. This process is similar to the carbon-fiber barrels that are increasingly popular on rifles.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:48:34am

I am working with the real life version of Michael Scott from The Office.

Got this email at 5:48 pm, which is when I have class.

Thanks. I need the full answer sheet(s) for Quiz 3 that you provided for me. That would be great if you can put that on my desk A.S.A.P. Please reply A.S.A.P.

My reply at 7:48 pm:

I had class until 6 pm today and will not be in the office until Monday. Please find the key attached.

For context, I’m the manager and the sender is the employee. So, you can imagine my irritation.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:51:33am

Awwww….

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:55:46am

In Louisville, KY, a con I wish I could attend. Some big names will be there.

louisvillesupercon.com

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 4:58:52am

Hmmm…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:01:35am

re: #130 MsJ

If these yokels are working for Trump, it will make the Watergate break-in look like a professional job. Burkman and Wohl are more like the burglars in Home Alone than a pair of cagey operators.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:06:51am

re: #130 MsJ

I’d be worried about confirmation bias, especially with the Krassensteins involved, but their other reporting on the dumber and dumberest Wolh and Burkman have been confirmed by multiple sources.

If these two were related back to Trumpworld, it’s bad news for Trump. And it’s not just the FBI that will want to have a discussion, but Mueller.

Muellers’ currently investigating Stone and other right wing loons like Corsi for their role in all this, especially as it relates to wikileaks and their document dumps that helped Trump.

Burkman makes Corsi look like a competent guy in comparison.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:13:55am

And comedians continue to be our only national press.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:14:08am

“Is she not washing the windows?”

nypost.com

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A Mom Anon  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:14:20am

re: #130 MsJ

If this turns out to be true I will probably giggle a little/lot. There’s not even a word yet for how stupid this kid is. One does have to wonder though how prevalent this sort of thing is and again, who foots the bill for people who seem to have no income? What would be excellent is if this ridiculous stunt caused a huge money spigot to dry up and people end up in jail over it.

Hey, 2018 has sucked big time, a girl can dream…I ask so little.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:23:50am

Doctoring while black.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:27:08am

re: #135 A Mom Anon

If this turns out to be true I will probably giggle a little/lot. There’s not even a word yet for how stupid this kid is. One does have to wonder though how prevalent this sort of thing is and again, who foots the bill for people who seem to have no income? What would be excellent is if this ridiculous stunt caused a huge money spigot to dry up and people end up in jail over it.

Hey, 2018 has sucked big time, a girl can dream…I ask so little.

Someone wrote a short thread on twitter yesterday about the 2nd generation of right wing idiots. Parents at least lived in a normal world, these clowns, the younger ones, live in a world where Gateway Pundit, O’Keefe, et al are right and true and they are all true believers who want and need their messages to be accepted as fact and get the recognition they feel they richly deserve.

They exist in the bubble and are hailed as heroes. But to normal people they’re nuts.

But they do not see it that way. They are true believers.

I don’t know how to fix this. I don’t know if you can fix stupidity mixed in with deep brainwashing.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:35:14am

re: #137 MsJ

Yeah, stupid sociopath isn’t exactly in high demand as a set of marketable skills. Well, unless you are a republican. And even that seems to have a bit of a shelf life these days.
Hopefully that trend expands.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:36:19am

re: #133 MsJ

Fox is Trump agitprop network, including their so-called hard “news” guys.

I refuse to call Fox by their given name, because they aren’t news. They are agitprop and a propaganda outlet. When Trump talks about fake news, he’s projecting like IMAX since Fox is the very epitome of fake - they bluster with bulkshit and lie and stoke fear and resentment among the angry white bigots that form the key demographic of Fox (and the GOP).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:39:19am

re: #116 Odie Hugh Manatee

I’m right behind you in the years and I agree, shit has derailed. The Gish Gallop has been inundated by the Trump Tsunami. Open NAZIs running for office, right wing terrorism growing, racism no longer being subtle dog whistles but instead air raid sirens, alternative facts, outright lies and a metric shit-ton more. I find it difficult to comment on any one thing because it’s just an endless barrage of bullshit that never stops.

It depresses me that there are so many heartless people in our country. Unfortunately, in my lifetime I have come to the conclusion that too many people pay lip service to being good people. They may be good people within the part of the world they exist in but when it comes to walking a mile in the shoes of another? Not only no, but Hell no! These types will bust in to tears when their favorite pet falls ill and laugh like an ass at some innocent black guy who was wrongly killed by a cop. They will donate to help a family with a child that has cancer, but only if the kid is white.

In talking to these people I have learned that they love to talk about the misfortune in their lives, seeking my understanding and sympathy for their difficulties. I have also learned that they will laugh at the difficulties of those they don’t like, not stopping for one second to think they they themselves sought my sympathy when things were difficult for them.

I would call it selfishness but it’s much more than that. It’s a really nasty self-absorbed kind of selfishness. Almost childish in nature in some people. Combine that with racism, misogyny, homophobia, religious zealotry and then toss in Commander Chaos and his Ball-sucking Yes Men, you end up with where we are at today.

This is the conclusion of the Powell Memorandum which created the Republican 24/7 Bullshit machine. I still remember when the implementation began when I was a freshman at Pitt in 1973. All of a sudden Ayn Rand’s books were unleashed. Campus Crusade for Christ hijacked auditoriums at Pitt. The Economics department actively recruited for the Libertarian Party. A YAF (Young Americans for Freedom—Bucklyites) chapter popped up as SDS collapsed. The Equal Time and Fairness doctrine were on their way out as the Republican propaganda metastasized. The the New Right came to power in 1978 with Prop 13 in California. Reagan got in and Greed is Good. Looking out for #1 became the American Way Of Life.

And now America is best summarized as “I Got Mine And Fuck You”.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:41:48am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:44:20am

When it comes to Jacob Wohl, I’m reminded of the idiot Barry Minkow here in Los Angeles. He blazed the path for Wohl. In the 80’s he was profiled as a mastermind with his ZZZZZZBest Carpet Cleaning scam. In reality, Barry was laundering mob money but you wouldn’t know that by the way the Corporate Press kissed his ass.

Then Barry slipped up and got caught. And what did he do? Why Barry done found himself Jay-Zuss and was born again. Yep, the Religious Right Pulpit Pimps took him into their fold and Sho ‘nuff Barry got on the Tax Exempt Pulpit Pimp Train.

Then Barry got caught fleecing the flock to finance his Pulpit Pimp Lifestyle. Off to jail he went. But he got out and went back to his Pulpit Pimpin’ ways as his congregation marks “forgave” him…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:53:57am

re: #137 MsJ

Jacob Wohl and the Ohio gun girl grifter are a match made in heaven. Their offspring would be unimaginably stupid.

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2018 • 5:56:20am

Imgur


Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:04:18am

re: #136 MsJ

Doctoring while black.

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This shit has to be so exhausting for black Americans.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:05:24am

re: #130 MsJ

Hmmm…

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That story dropped yesterday. There are, umm, holes in Burkman/Wohl’s story, to say the least.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:13:20am

The jobs report will at least give Trump something to talk about other than the Caravan. 250k new jobs in October, and wages up 3.1% over the last 12 months.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:13:39am

Ben’s trying hard to garner some attention with this one.

I wonder what kind of whiskey he drank. Also, how does he know how turpentine tastes like? It might explain a lot.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:18:48am

re: #137 MsJ

Someone wrote a short thread on twitter yesterday about the 2nd generation of right wing idiots. Parents at least lived in a normal world, these clowns, the younger ones, live in a world where Gateway Pundit, O’Keefe, et al are right and true and they are all true believers who want and need their messages to be accepted as fact and get the recognition they feel they richly deserve.

They exist in the bubble and are hailed as heroes. But to normal people they’re nuts.

But they do not see it that way. They are true believers.

I don’t know how to fix this. I don’t know if you can fix stupidity mixed in with deep brainwashing.

David Roberts (@drvox), my newest follow. He’s good.

He also put up a longer thread about the caravan yesterday. Also very good.

150
Jay C  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:19:03am

re: #105 wheat-dogg

At this point, I’ve lost track of how many laws Jacob A(ss)Wohl has broken so far with this knucklehead stunt. It’s just one layer of stupid on top of the next, with no consideration that making it all very public is just making his legal defense impossible, short of claiming temporary insanity.

@popehat keeps reminding Wohl to listen to his lawyers and shut up, but like most other RWNJs who think they are all that and more, Wohl is forging on ahead. It’s no wonder he loves Trump. They’re birds of a feather, including their net liquidity.

And the most characteristic thing seems to be that Jack and Jake Really Don’t Care, Do U??
My guess is that, looney-tunes as this whole affair appears to “normal” observers, we have to remember (as has been pointed out here) that Jacob Wohl not only “works” in the RW media bubble, he is completely a product of it: I’m sure he thinks he can just brazen it out by trying to cover his scam with the figleaf of “aggressive journalism”: which, along with cover from his other inside- the-bubble supporters will be enough to deflect any legal repercussions.
Oh, and of course, try to spin it as “biased persecution” by the Usual Roster Of Enemies, which he will likely try to vigorously milk for clicks, publicity, and cash.

You would think that Jake The Fake would have a little more cognizance of his legal jeopardy, but this is RW alt-media in The Trump Era: normal considerations usually don’t apply.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:19:08am

About that Caroline/Carolyn Cass person …

In 2017, Cass sued TV producer Erik Desando in small claims court for “break of contract, misrepresented services, character defamation, libel, slander and bait + switch tactics” according to filings from the Santa Monica Courthouse in late 2017. In July of this year, after winning her case, Cass was awarded $10,000 by the court.

HillReporter reached out to Erik Desando for comment, and his thoughts on Ms. Cass. Desando told us “she’s a complete scam artist, loser. She ripped me off. She caused problems for every single person that I’ve introduced her to. She’s a complete nightmare.”

While Cass has yet to speak for herself and has not filed a police report regarding what Wohl and Burkman say are her claims that Special Counsel Robert Mueller raped her back in 2010, images and videos of the woman have already begun to circulate on social media. The following is a video of Cass back in 2009, approximately a year before the alleged sex assault would have taken place.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:21:42am

re: #148 wheat-dogg

Ben’s trying hard to garner some attention with this one.

[Embedded content]

I wonder what kind of whiskey he drank. Also, how does he know how turpentine tastes like? It might explain a lot.

Whiskey and salad are both good. This is why you don’t have friends beyond your bubble.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:21:47am

re: #146 makeitstop

That story dropped yesterday. There are, umm, holes in Burkman/Wohl’s story, to say the least.

This whole Wohl thing sounds like the plot of a teenager stoner movie.

It would make a good stoner comedy, actually.

Harold & Kumar frame Robert Mueller of rape

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:26:24am

re: #151 wheat-dogg

And apparently Cass is Wohl’s GF.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:29:06am

re: #154 wheat-dogg

And apparently Cass is Wohl’s GF.

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JFC this is comically bad.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:29:13am

re: #154 wheat-dogg

And a commenter in that thread points out …

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:32:24am

re: #153 b.d.(soros funded)

This whole Wohl thing sounds like the plot of a teenager stoner movie.

It would make a good stoner comedy, actually.

Harold & Kumar frame Robert Mueller of rape

Can you imagine them sitting around cooking this up?

Stupid reinforcing stupid. They probably convinced each other they had an air-tight scam.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:34:19am

re: #157 makeitstop

Can you imagine them sitting around cooking this up?

Stupid reinforcing stupid. They probably convinced each other they had an air-tight scam.

So, a Fox News broadcast.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:35:11am

re: #133 MsJ

And comedians continue to be our only national press.

That is great. Spring a fact checker on them and suddenly they know the truth.

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:38:30am

re: #154 wheat-dogg

And apparently Cass is Wohl’s GF.

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🎶

Jake and Carrie sittin’ in a tree
S-C-A-M-M-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes fakery
Now Jake’s workin’ in the prison bakery!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:38:46am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

And a commenter in that thread points out …

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Though I read yesterday Cass is 34. Can’t confirm that though.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:38:47am

In a way, I think social media has created this bubble for idealogues. It’s ironic for all their criticism of “safe spaces” and college campuses but people like Wohl, Ohio gun girl, and others are used to being told “Yeah, you’re right” without push back. One thing I like about our community is if you’re wrong, you’ll get nudged. Yesterday or maybe it was on Wednesday I said that not many Republican candidates use the fact that they speak more than one language anymore. I was reminded of Scott’s Spanish ads and that Rubio used his Spanish in the debates. And I’m sure you all can think of other examples too.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:38:52am

Wohl now: “Yes, I used a bullshit photo, but that was only to protect the identity of my client!”

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:39:42am

re: #163 Targetpractice

Wohl now: “Yes, I used a bullshit photo, but that was only to protect the identity of my client!”

“Your Honor, my client is too stupid to go to jail”

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:40:09am

re: #160 Jay C

🎶

Jake and Carrie sittin’ in a tree
S-C-A-M-M-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes fakery
Now Jake’s workin’ in the prison bakery!

Her best move was deciding not to attend the press conference and spout lies for Wohl. If she’s smart, she lawyer up and offer to testify against him in return for immunity.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:40:34am

re: #164 b.d.(soros funded)

“Your Honor, my client is too stupid to go to jail”

“…this is a joke, right? Where’s the hidden camera, I’m being Punk’d.”

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:40:41am

re: #157 makeitstop

Can you imagine them sitting around cooking this up?

Stupid reinforcing stupid. They probably convinced each other they had an air-tight scam.

A Wall Street guy posted an encounter with Jacob W on Twitter yesterday. The gist is that Jake was dropping one firm’s name to get an interview with a second, demanding a beefy salary, an office and control over X number of accounts, getting rejected, and then going to the firm he had just name-dropped to make the same pitch, but this time name-dropping the second firm.

He’s like the Wolf of Wall Street after he discovered ‘ludes, but somehow never discovered how to sell.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:41:08am

From what I’ve read about Wohl. He seems to have made his mark being a hedge fund type wonder kid. Don’t know what made him think his political opinions were worth more a damn than mine or yours though. That’s what Twitter unfortunately does. It gives obnoxious assholes more credibility than they deserve. Then again, that’s not new since Limbaugh and Father Coughlin who were equally uncredible got tons of airtime in the past so the problem isn’t modern social media, it’s people who take these conmen and women seriously.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:41:39am

re: #161 Big Beautiful Door

Though I read yesterday Cass is 34. Can’t confirm that though.

She seems older than Wohl by a few years, for sure.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:41:55am

re: #164 b.d.(soros funded)

“Your Honor, my client is too stupid to go to jail”

It could work. A lawyer in Kentucky successfully used the defense that he was too drunk to be culpable for ripping off his clients.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:42:55am

re: #1 Kragar

I’ll take “What is Wag The Dog?” for $600, Alex.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:43:10am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

He was a hedge fund wonder kid who was accused of fraud and barred from operating as a financial anything in his home state.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:44:02am

re: #172 wheat-dogg

He was a ledge fund wonder kid who was accused of fraud and barred from operating as a financial anything in his home state.

Or anywhere else in the country, for life.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:44:24am

re: #146 makeitstop

That story dropped yesterday. There are, umm, holes in Burkman/Wohl’s story, to say the least.

That is the weirdest story. It’s breathtakingly…weird. Thanks for the link.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:44:44am

re: #172 wheat-dogg

He was a ledge fund wonder kid who was accused of fraud and barred from operating as a financial anything in his home state.

Ahhh okay so he’s dabbling in politics because he can’t rip people off in another way. It’s so surreal for me to think that this guy was younger than my niece was when Mueller became FBI director and wasn’t even alive when Mueller was prosecuting the Lockerbie bombers and Five Families.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:45:27am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

From what I’ve read about Wohl. He seems to have made his mark being a hedge fund type wonder kid. Don’t know what made him think his political opinions were worth more a damn than mine or yours though. That’s what Twitter unfortunately does. It gives obnoxious assholes more credibility than they deserve. Then again, that’s not new since Limbaugh and Father Coughlin who were equally uncredible got tons of airtime in the past so the problem isn’t modern social media, it’s people who take these conmen and women seriously.

Wohl got into futures at a young age, and promptly got into trouble to the point of getting a lifetime ban for being a scammer. He violated Arizona securities law, refused to cooperate with the authorities, and the National Futures Association slapped his dumbass with a lifetime ban.

Dumbass dad David Wohl is a Trump twit and a lawyer (apparently in the Orly Taitz mode).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:46:22am

re: #176 lawhawk

Wohl got into futures at a young age, and promptly got into trouble to the point of getting a lifetime ban for being a scammer. He violated Arizona securities law, refused to cooperate with the authorities, and the National Futures Association slapped his dumbass with a lifetime ban.

Dumbass dad David Wohl is a Trump twit and a lawyer (apparently in the Orly Taitz mode).

Gotcha. A lifetime ban that young. Wowie.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:47:54am

Of course, people are using that story to attack Hillary. Because of course.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:48:15am

People like Wohl and the others though. That’s why I don’t have the optimism that the right of my generation or even the generation after mine is going to be more enlightened. They’re just as stupid, pig-headed, and bigoted as their parents and grandparents. That’s why I don’t engage in generation bashing. I know some boomers including folks here and others who are very insightful and thoughtful people. Individuals are the issue.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:49:13am

re: #178 lawhawk

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Of course, people are using that story to attack Hillary. Because of course.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:49:20am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹

Ms. Green notes that Ms. Sinema’s positions are largely the same as her own, and blocking McSally is more important.

Well, guess now is as good a time as ever to recognize that.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:51:36am

re: #178 lawhawk

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Of course, people are using that story to attack Hillary. Because of course.

More relevant: The sitting president is an admitted sexual predator who has acknowledged using his power to prey on women, engaged in sexual assault, and faced no consequences for it at all.

Yet the media thinks that’s less important than flagellating the DNC over the decades old allegations against a man who left office before most of the youngest voters out there today were sucking at their mom’s teats.

“Liberal media,” my ass.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:53:23am

re: #182 Targetpractice

More relevant: The sitting president is an admitted sexual predator who has acknowledged using his power to prey on women, engaged in sexual assault, and faced no consequences for it at all.

Yet the media thinks that’s less important than flagellating the DNC over the decades old allegations against a man who left office before most of the youngest voters out there today were sucking at their mom’s teats.

“Liberal media,” my ass.

No consequences? The GOP elevated him to the WH - they knew and didn’t care. Or worse, they knew, didn’t care, and purposefully chose him over Hillary because they’re misogynists just like Trump.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:53:43am

Fun fact:

3%, 89% - same diff… /

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:54:06am

re: #132 lawhawk

I’d be worried about confirmation bias, especially with the Krassensteins involved, but their other reporting on the dumber and dumberest Wolh and Burkman have been confirmed by multiple sources.

If these two were related back to Trumpworld, it’s bad news for Trump. And it’s not just the FBI that will want to have a discussion, but Mueller.

Muellers’ currently investigating Stone and other right wing loons like Corsi for their role in all this, especially as it relates to wikileaks and their document dumps that helped Trump.

Burkman makes Corsi look like a competent guy in comparison.

Corsi? The man who derailed Kerry’s campaign? Sounds pretty competent to me. We underestimate these villains at our peril. We underestimated Trump’s appeal to the public. But maybe the media is finally catching on.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:54:13am

re: #182 Targetpractice

More relevant: The sitting president is an admitted sexual predator who has acknowledged using his power to prey on women, engaged in sexual assault, and faced no consequences for it at all.

Yet the media thinks that’s less important than flagellating the DNC over the decades old allegations against a man who left office before most of the youngest voters out there today were sucking at their mom’s teats.

“Liberal media,” my ass.

I think what gets me is this. Not Clinton but the Clinton’s. As if Hillary is responsible for what Bill did. I don’t see anyone in the media and I should add I don’t expect them to hold Melania responsible for how Trump treats women. This shit just gets old.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:54:45am

re: #184 makeitstop

Fun fact:

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3%, 89% - same diff… /

All he does is fucking lie his orange ass off and the red hats eat it up.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:55:24am

re: #89 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Tennessee Inmate Executed After Choosing The Electric Chair

34 years on death row. Another inmate, 61-year-old David Earl Miller, has been there 37 years. He is scheduled for execution in December.

Why don’t they just sentence them to death by old age?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:56:03am

re: #188 The Vicious Babushka

Why don’t they just sentence them to death by old age?

Because it doesn’t get their revenge boners going.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:56:59am

re: #153 b.d.(soros funded)

This whole Wohl thing sounds like the plot of a teenager stoner movie.

It would make a good stoner comedy, actually.

Harold & Kumar frame Robert Mueller of rape

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:57:50am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

And a commenter in that thread points out …

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Yesterday, I said she’d have been six. I was > < close!

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:00:39am

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I think what gets me is this. Not Clinton but the Clinton’s. As if Hillary is responsible for what Bill did. I don’t see anyone in the media and I should add I don’t expect them to hold Melania responsible for how Trump treats women. This shit just gets old.

The short answer is nobody takes Melania seriously.

The longer answer is Melania is not seen by anybody as having any sort of influence, whether it be on Donny or on politics. Hillary was an accomplished lawyer and political advocate who spent her time as First Lady being a mover and shaker in her husband’s administration. So far, the only moving and shaking Melania seems to do is with the pool boy when Donny is away.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:01:15am

re: #192 Targetpractice

The short answer is nobody takes Melania seriously.

The longer answer is Melania is not seen by anybody as having any sort of influence, whether it be on Donny or on politics. Hillary was an accomplished lawyer and political advocate who spent her time as First Lady being a mover and shaker in her husband’s administration. So far, the only moving and shaking Melania seems to do is with the pool boy when Donny is away.

True that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:04:22am

re: #181 Sir John Barron

Well, guess now is as good a time as ever to recognize that.

A Green candidate who recognizes her presence may guarantee the victory of those who oppose Green policies. Someone who learned something from the 2016 debacle?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:10:49am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

From what I’ve read about Wohl. He seems to have made his mark being a hedge fund type wonder kid. Don’t know what made him think his political opinions were worth more a damn than mine or yours though. That’s what Twitter unfortunately does. It gives obnoxious assholes more credibility than they deserve. Then again, that’s not new since Limbaugh and Father Coughlin who were equally uncredible got tons of airtime in the past so the problem isn’t modern social media, it’s people who take these conmen and women seriously.

Brings back memories of Grandma Bacon’s hatred of Coughlin. Only once did a boarder at her home tune the radio into that racist. Grandma went livid when she heard Coughlin call FDR “Franklin Delano Rosenblum”. Grandma shut the radio off and told everyone to NEVER dial in to that racist…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:19:01am

This re: #195 Joe Bacon 🌹

Brings back memories of Grandma Bacon’s hatred of Coughlin. Only once did a boarder at her home tune the radio into that racist. Grandma went livid when she heard Coughlin call FDR “Franklin Delano Rosenblum”. Grandma shut the radio off and told everyone to NEVER dial in to that racist…

My grandparents all loved FDR. My paternal grandfather went to work for the NLRB almost from the start and was there until Nixon beat Humphrey and then he went into private practice. He was well off, in fact my only grandparent with a college degree but he looked out for the little guy.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:20:20am

Tried out the Fallout 76 beta yesterday. And no sir, I don’t like it.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:20:57am

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹

Quoting from the very beginning of the video: I didn’t think it would ricochet and go all the way back to the berm.

Chowderhead. Always know your target and what’s behind it. You thought a paper target would stop it?

***This is the kind of guy who gives irresponsible gun owners a bad name.***

Don’t get me started…

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:23:07am

Trump’s Spy Machine Stalking Twitter For ‘Insurrection’ (Wonkette, more at the link):

The Trump administration is scraping social media in order to spy on anti-Trump protests, but that’s not all! Curiously vague updates to the new defense doctrine give the military more authority to act in the event of “emergencies,” like an insurrection or an invasion of taco trucks. With such broad tools you’d think a definitely not racist person like Trump might find a way to stop a mass murder or two.

Motherboard reports that when the Trump administration took office it inherited a fancy new computer to spy on the social media of Not America. It didn’t take long for someone to wonder if it could be used to spy on all the communists who didn’t vote for Trump. The Army cut some nerds a check to follow the 2016 post-election protests, like at the inauguration, the airport protests, and the Women’s March. They found that whenever people wear their pink pussy hats and march in the streets they usually post a lot on social media. The report concluded that by cyber stalking social networks, you can predict the likelihood of violent protests.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:27:21am

Heh

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:28:19am

re: #200 makeitstop

Heh

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What’s she’s really asking is “Are there enough potential Republicans in this caravan to consider letting it through?”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:29:54am

re: #200 makeitstop

Heh

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JFC Jeanne GFY.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:38:35am

re: #137 MsJ

Someone wrote a short thread on twitter yesterday about the 2nd generation of right wing idiots. Parents at least lived in a normal world, these clowns, the younger ones, live in a world where Gateway Pundit, O’Keefe, et al are right and true and they are all true believers who want and need their messages to be accepted as fact and get the recognition they feel they richly deserve.

They exist in the bubble and are hailed as heroes. But to normal people they’re nuts.

But they do not see it that way. They are true believers.

***I don’t know how to fix this.*** I don’t know if you can fix stupidity mixed in with deep brainwashing.

Trust in Darwin

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:46:22am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

JFC Jeanne GFY.

Jim Jeffries and Seth Myers both have a field day making fun of her.

She’s like a caricature of a Fox News host. Yelling, all the time yelling. So freakin’ annoying.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:54:15am

re: #200 makeitstop

Heh

“Are there gun nuts? Sovereign citizens?”

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:55:16am

re: #203 dangerman

Trust in Darwin

Alas, how many of us have to go out when they Darwin themselves?

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:57:36am

re: #205 Sir John Barron

“Are there gun nuts? Sovereign citizens?”

Birthers?

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:00:11am

You know the easiest way to check if these people have criminal records? Allow them to apply for asylum, get their personal information and biometric data, then make inquiries of their home countries. Either they have outstanding warrants and/or past convictions OR (and this may be shocking) they’re clean and thus there is no reason to bar them besides “Fear of a Brown Planet.”

And before they scream “They might not have records!,” I direct them to all their bitching about “due process” and “rule of law” a month ago.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:00:45am

re: #204 makeitstop

Jim Jeffries and Seth Myers both have a field day making fun of her.

She’s like a caricature of a Fox News host. Yelling, all the time yelling. So freakin’ annoying.

And so frigging stupid.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:00:54am

There is absolutely no end to their cynicism.

Assholes. Jerking the entire populace around to try and win a fuckin’ election.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:01:59am

re: #208 Targetpractice

You know the easiest way to check if these people have criminal records? Allow them to apply for asylum, get their personal information and biometric data, then make inquiries of their home countries. Either they have outstanding warrants and/or past convictions OR (and this may be shocking) they’re clean and thus there is no reason to bar them besides “Fear of a Brown Planet.”

And before they scream “They might not have records!,” I direct them to all their bitching about “due process” and “rule of law” a month ago.

Exactly. People like Trump and his allies have no idea how this actually works.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:03:29am

re: #210 makeitstop

There is absolutely no end to their cynicism.

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Assholes. Jerking the entire populace around to try and win a fuckin’ election.

Yeah we get it. You don’t care about the Squirrel Hill victims or those who got threatened by Savoc so you had to scare your base whose idea of Mexican food is Taco Bell.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:04:00am

re: #210 makeitstop

There is absolutely no end to their cynicism.

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Assholes. Jerking the entire populace around to try and win a fuckin’ election.

They think the best way to get people’s minds off acts carried out due to years of hate and bile is to crank up the production of hate and bile. Brilliant!

/////////

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:04:55am

re: #213 Targetpractice

They think the best way to get people’s minds off acts carried out due to years of hate and bile is to crank up the production of hate and bile. Brilliant!

/////////

The Big Wingnut Machine runs on hate and bile.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:06:16am

re: #204 makeitstop

Jim Jeffries and Seth Myers both have a field day making fun of her.

She’s like a caricature of a Fox News host. Yelling, all the time yelling. So freakin’ annoying.

Is she the woman who was stalking Hillary Clinton, or am I thinking of a different FOX personality?

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:10:53am

re: #143 wheat-dogg

Jacob Wohl and the Ohio gun girl grifter are a match made in heaven. Their offspring would be unimaginably stupid.

Black hole of idiocy.

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retired cynic  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:24:55am

re: #195 Joe Bacon 🌹

Brings back memories of Grandma Bacon’s hatred of Coughlin. Only once did a boarder at her home tune the radio into that racist. Grandma went livid when she heard Coughlin call FDR “Franklin Delano Rosenblum”. Granma shut the radio off and told everyone to NEVER dial in to that racist…

My husband told me about Coughlin. He was prime age during that animal’s reign of terror. I had not really heard about him. I was gobsmacked at such evil.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:28:12am

re: #143 wheat-dogg

Jacob Wohl and the Ohio gun girl grifter are a match made in heaven. Their offspring would be unimaginably stupid.

It would be some fucked up version of what Steffi Graf and Andre Agassi’s kid might be for tennis…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:29:36am
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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:30:34am

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

Is she the woman who was stalking Hillary Clinton, or am I thinking of a different FOX personality?

That’s her. I was hoping she’d just get lost in the woods and never be heard from again. No such luck.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:31:40am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Exactly. People like Trump and his allies have no idea how this actually works.

They don’t care how any of this works. They care about scary brown people and using them to spin up fearful conservative voters before the election.

Shaun King Resurrects Frederick Douglass’ Anti-Slavery Newspaper (Heavy)

While we don’t have slavery (for now, anyway), Mr. King wishes to highlight the problems faced by the African-American community regarding racism.

buildingthenorthstar.com (Douglass’s original paper was named The North Star, King is trying to garner support for the relaunch)

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:32:03am

re: #218 Mike Lamb

It would be some fucked up version of what Steffi Graf and Andre Agassi’s kid might be for tennis…

An idiot savant - totally gifted at being an idiot.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:36:38am

re: #222 makeitstop

An idiot savant - totally gifted at being an idiot.

More like the singularity of idiot savants. We’d finally be able to identify the grift gene.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:40:43am

re: #218 Mike Lamb

It would be some fucked up version of what Steffi Graf and Andre Agassi’s kid might be for tennis…

Their kid will probably be the best guitar player ever.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:48:38am

Words have consequences, you stupid orange meatsack.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:49:58am

re: #144 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

It appears your doggo and kitteh have become fast friends.

Better watch it though…this lifestyle may not meet certain religious right standards.

A dog that lies with a cat is not Gawds natural law.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:52:42am

re: #225 makeitstop

Words have consequences, you stupid orange meatsack.

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Authoritarian wet dreamer.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:53:36am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

This shit has to be so exhausting for black Americans.

It is. But sadly many have grown so used to it all.

I have an elderly Black woman client that is also a friend now. She often says this is just a surfacing of behavior and attitudes that have existed all along.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:54:01am

re: #210 makeitstop

There is absolutely no end to their cynicism.

Assholes. Jerking the entire populace around to try and win a fuckin’ election.

Yes this is perfectly alright. //

Drain the swamp of these arsholes.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:56:52am

re: #150 Jay C

And the most characteristic thing seems to be that Jack and Jake Really Don’t Care, Do U??
My guess is that, looney-tunes as this whole affair appears to “normal” observers, we have to remember (as has been pointed out here) that Jacob Wohl not only “works” in the RW media bubble, he is completely a product of it: I’m sure he thinks he can just brazen it out by trying to cover his scam with the figleaf of “aggressive journalism”: which, along with cover from his other inside- the-bubble supporters will be enough to deflect any legal repercussions.
Oh, and of course, try to spin it as “biased persecution” by the Usual Roster Of Enemies, which he will likely try to vigorously milk for clicks, publicity, and cash.

You would think that Jake The Fake would have a little more cognizance of his legal jeopardy, but this is RW alt-media in The Trump Era: normal considerations usually don’t apply.

Jacob probably thinks Trump will pardon him no matter what stupid stuff he does.

He is so into Trump he probably buys everything Trump says.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:59:54am

re: #160 Jay C

🎶

Jake and Carrie sittin’ in a tree
S-C-A-M-M-I-N-G
First comes love, then comes fakery
Now Jake’s workin’ in the prison bakery!

That works out really. Ol’ Jacob can continue to claim he makes a lot of bread…and for once he may not be lying.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:01:01am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

This shit has to be so exhausting for black Americans.

If you haven’t seen it, go watch the Rosa Parks Doctor Who episode. And then imagine the tension you’re feeling happening all the time.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:06:00am

re: #183 lawhawk

No consequences? The GOP elevated him to the WH - they knew and didn’t care. Or worse, they knew, didn’t care, and purposefully chose him over Hillary because they’re misogynists just like Trump.

I always go with useful idiot.

Once he was elected, I really do think McConnell realized he had an idiot that had enough popularity and power for a limited time he could hide behind to get what they wanted since the GOP was in complete control.

That time may be up here soon, but McConnell and gang managed to get a lot of stuff they wanted in the past two years.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:10:10am

re: #184 makeitstop

Fun fact:

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3%, 89% - same diff… /

Trump Math.

I bet some of that math can be found in Trump International Business Prospectives.

We promise you returns of up to 20% if you enter into this project with us.

What you actually get is a loss of whatever you put in…and no recourse to do anything about it because Trump International will claim they were only a front agent for another company…take it up with them.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:10:58am

Irate passenger contributes to bus crash into river, killing all, in China.

nypost.com

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ipsos  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:12:23am

Rant time:

I’m in upstate New York. Have only ever lived in two other states in my life, and neither one is Colorado or Ohio.

Yet every day for the last few weeks, I’ve received at least one text from either or both of those fine states from very earnest (presumably) young people encouraging me to get out and vote in either Colorado or Ohio, sometimes for specific candidates or ballot issues, always on our side, at least.

Around the same time, FB started to show me a crapton of ads from some PAC trying to swing Ohio right - lots of “Democrats are scary and will rape and murder your puppy” stuff.

I let the FB stuff ride because I’m very happy to let that PAC waste its money on misdirected ads that aren’t going to change my vote here in NY.

But I do worry that whatever voter outreach our side is trying to do by texts may not be as effective as it should be if I’m getting this many misdirected messages (and, incidentally, NONE that have anything to do with NY, which may just show, correctly, that their model knows that I show up at EVERY election anyway and don’t need their resources expended on me.)

I just hope whoever’s supposed to be getting those messages in Ohio and Colorado still somehow gets prodded to vote.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:14:48am

re: #204 makeitstop

Jim Jeffries and Seth Myers both have a field day making fun of her.

She’s like a caricature of a Fox News host. Yelling, all the time yelling. So freakin’ annoying.

Every time I see Jeanine Pirro I want to grab a straight jacket and a syringe full of sedative just to make sure she doesn’t hurt herself or someone else.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:16:10am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:17:45am

Besides being a raging antiSemite, Islamophobe, and homophobe, Wiles is probably the most slavishly pro-Russian of the major pulpit pimps. He has been predicting civil war and massacres of Christians practically every week for more than twenty years.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:17:59am

re: #236 ipsos

Rant time:

I’m in upstate New York. Have only ever lived in two other states in my life, and neither one is Colorado or Ohio.

Yet every day for the last few weeks, I’ve received at least one text from either or both of those fine states from very earnest (presumably) young people encouraging me to get out and vote in either Colorado or Ohio, sometimes for specific candidates or ballot issues, always on our side, at least.

Around the same time, FB started to show me a crapton of ads from some PAC trying to swing Ohio right - lots of “Democrats are scary and will rape and murder your puppy” stuff.

I let the FB stuff ride because I’m very happy to let that PAC waste its money on misdirected ads that aren’t going to change my vote here in NY.

But I do worry that whatever voter outreach our side is trying to do by texts may not be as effective as it should be if I’m getting this many misdirected messages (and, incidentally, NONE that have anything to do with NY, which may just show, correctly, that their model knows that I show up at EVERY election anyway and don’t need their resources expended on me.)

I just hope whoever’s supposed to be getting those messages in Ohio and Colorado still somehow gets prodded to vote.

I’ve gotten a ton of emails from AZ, and during the primary season a lot from Colorado and Massachusetts (I don’t live in any of these states). I’m assume I’ve ended up on their email lists due to previous contributions to the DCCC or DSCC, but why these in particular I’m a little stumped. Maybe back in the day when I contributed to individual candidates whose names and states I’ve since forgotten.

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Teukka  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:19:12am
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ipsos  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:22:23am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

I’ve gotten a ton of emails from AZ, and during the primary season a lot from Colorado and Massachusetts (I don’t live in any of these states). I’m assume I’ve ended up on their email lists due to previous contributions to the DCCC or DSCC, but why these in particular I’m a little stumped. Maybe back in the day when I contributed to individual candidates whose names and states I’ve since forgotten.

Because of my profession, I cannot make political contributions. So however they got my cell phone number, it wasn’t that way.

My guess is they bought bad lists with garbage data where someone had filled in a “random” number that turned out to be mine. Or could have been a typo, except my area code doesn’t even come close to matching any in OH or CO.

I just hope it isn’t a sign of bigger problems with what’s supposed to be our high-tech voter outreach.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:25:03am

Another call to arms from Dominionist nutbags.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:27:19am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another call to arms from Dominionist nutbags.

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I remember when this guy was called Osama Bin Laden.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:30:30am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another call to arms from Dominionist nutbags.

I thought God was already here.

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William Lewis  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:32:55am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another call to arms from Dominionist nutbags.

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It always amazes me how totally they can utterly miss the point of the gospel in their search for power.

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:34:29am

re: #226 ObserverArt

It appears your doggo and kitteh have become fast friends.

Better watch it though…this lifestyle may not meet certain religious right standards.

A dog that lies with a cat is not Gawds natural law.

That cat lurves him some Brittany dogs.

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ipsos  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:35:53am

re: #247 jeffreyw

That cat lurves him some Brittany dogs.

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As do I!

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ipsos  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:36:30am

re: #242 ipsos

And now a text about a California ballot proposition. WTF?

Seriously - how much money is being spent on messages to bad numbers here?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:39:07am

July 18th. We’re still waiting, Rick.
Rick Wiles: We’re 72 Hours Away From A Coup During Which Trump Will Be Decapitated On The White House Lawn

One of the odd characteristics of conspiracy media is that wrong predictions do not seem to affect the audience at all. We see this with Alex Jones and many others. This is evidence that most of the audience does not truly believe the claims at all, they just see them as a rationale for the hatred and rage that they cannot otherwise justify in public. This is why it is so frustrating to try to convince a Trumpster that Trump is lying. They KNOW he is lying and that is why they support him.

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Teukka  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:40:00am

re: #226 ObserverArt

It appears your doggo and kitteh have become fast friends.

Better watch it though…this lifestyle may not meet certain religious right standards.

A dog that lies with a cat is not Gawds natural law.

re: #247 jeffreyw

That cat lurves him some Brittany dogs.

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Mass Hysteria

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jeffreyw  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:46:42am

re: #251 Teukka

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Mass Hysteria!

Ah.. that’s just the catnip talking.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:47:45am

re: #250 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

They’re bullshitters (or bulkshitters, considering the volume).

They don’t care that they’re lying, they’re only concerned with convincing others of their POV.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:53:31am

...

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:58:37am

what a moron

Protesters arrive early for President Trump’s rally in Huntington

CEREDO, w.va. (WSAZ) — Protesters are already showing up at the Huntington Tri-State Airport, hours ahead of President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” rally.

West Virginia State Police troopers are set up at the intersection of Walkers Branch Road and Airport Road.

Our crew says about a dozen protesters have already lined up. Troopers are on hand to answer questions and direct traffic.

The rally is set to begin at 4 p.m. Friday on the airport tarmac near a hangar space.

Huntington is about an hour’s drive from me. blech

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:00:25am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:00:49am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a moron

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Protesters arrive early for President Trump’s rally in Huntington

Huntington is about an hour’s drive from me. blech

The greatest political movement in history? Yeah no and you can keep Bobby Knight, he’s a psycho asshole.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:02:30am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“the kingdom of God is invading the United States of America.”

Huh.

So, do we stop them at the border? Shoot them if they throw rocks?
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:03:01am

re: #136 MsJ

Doctoring while black.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:04:54am

re: #257 HappyWarrior

The greatest political movement in history? Yeah no and you can keep Bobby Knight, he’s a psycho asshole.

Bobby Knight is perfect for Trump. Two angry hot-headed jerks jerking each other off.

I’m sooo glad he is associated with Indiana rather than Ohio where he was born and played basketball at Ohio State.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:05:54am

Just finished watching the video.

The sight and sound of Trump and his minions now, literally, makes me physically ill.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:08:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:09:47am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:12:06am

Wisconsin conservative admits he’d shoot his sister in the face for Trump: ‘She has to know how passionate I am’ (Raw Story)

RS is citing a Guardian reporter who was unfortunate enough to draw the short straw and go on yet another round of “let’s interview Trump supporters in Trump country to find out why they support Trump.”

Steve Spaeth, a 40-year-old West Bend man who operates a home exteriors company, told the reporter during the Oct. 24 rally in Mosinee that “hate” was not too strong a word to describe his feelings toward anyone he considers a political enemy.

“Not at all,” Spaeth said. “I have a deep and absolute disgust for these human beings.”

He identified his enemies as CNN, George Soros, Hillary Clinton, Cory Booker and Elizabeth Warren, whom he referred to as “Pocahontas” — and was the only foe Spaeth named that had not been sent a mail bomb that same week, allegedly by another Trump supporter, Cesar Sayoc.

“They want to turn America into a socialistic country,” Spaeth said. “It’s disgusting.”

Oooh, scary socialists. Probably hasn’t heard of the Socialist Rifle Association. Aside from horrible things such as organising hurricane relief for Florence and Michael, they promote the right to bear arms by the working class.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:13:49am

re: #250 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Those people are all Triad addicts. Alex Jones and the rest of the conspiracy mongers, among which I include MinTrue (I mean Fox News), are their dealers.

Triad is the term I’ve adopted for the emotions that kick in the fight-or-flight reflex and flood the body with the same chemicals as crack cocaine; fear, anger, and hatred.

There is a good reason these people act like psychotics.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:15:22am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another call to arms from Dominionist nutbags.

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F those Pulpit Pimps.

TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:16:36am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:17:07am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹

Wisconsin conservative admits he’d shoot his sister in the face for Trump: ‘She has to know how passionate I am’ (Raw Story)

RS is citing a Guardian reporter who was unfortunate enough to draw the short straw and go on yet another round of “let’s interview Trump supporters in Trump country to find out why they support Trump.”

Oooh, scary socialists. Probably hasn’t heard of the Socialist Rifle Association. Aside from horrible things such as organising hurricane relief for Florence and Michael, they promote the right to bear arms by the working class.

That’s why they’re a cult.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:17:39am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:17:46am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a moron

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Protesters arrive early for President Trump’s rally in Huntington

Huntington is about an hour’s drive from me. blech

Don’t they have jobs? I thought there are so many JERBS that everyone can have 2 or 3 (& still not make ends meet)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:18:43am

Takes The Walking Dead way too seriously.

Huge cache of weapons seized from home, including 35,000 rounds of ammunition

SHIRLEY, Mass. — Massachusetts State Police say a man was arrested after police found dozens of unlicensed firearms stockpiled in his home. CBS Boston identifies him as 62-year-old Jeffrey Dusti.

Police say they seized approximately 47 illegal firearms, 44 homemade silencers and around 35,000 rounds of ammunition from the man’s home. He was arraigned Thursday in Shirley District Court and was ordered held without bail pending a dangerousness hearing next week.

35K rounds is small potatoes by hoarder standards though. A colleague of my brother in Colorado boasts that he has a million rounds stashed in, around, and possibly under his suburban compound. Seems an odd thing to boast about, since ammo stashes will be a major destination if the proverbial stuff did somehow hit the fan in a survival situation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:19:37am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:20:09am

re: #243 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Another call to arms from Dominionist nutbags.

And will they admit their god has forsaken them (or doesn’t exist) if the midterm elections don’t go the way they want?

Nah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:23:21am

because, of course…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:28:54am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:29:53am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:30:33am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a tool you are Marco. You benefited from the same immigration policies you and Trump want to reverse. History if it remembers you at all will be that of a sad sack of shit with no principles.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:31:38am

So he stole someone else’s branding. Shocker. /

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:33:26am

Darth’s takes are better than Trump’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:33:39am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:35:38am

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹

Wisconsin conservative admits he’d shoot his sister in the face for Trump: ‘She has to know how passionate I am’ (Raw Story)

RS is citing a Guardian reporter who was unfortunate enough to draw the short straw and go on yet another round of “let’s interview Trump supporters in Trump country to find out why they support Trump.”

Oooh, scary socialists. Probably hasn’t heard of the Socialist Rifle Association. Aside from horrible things such as organising hurricane relief for Florence and Michael, they promote the right to bear arms by the working class.

no cult notacult your the cult

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ckkatz  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:35:42am

re: #149 makeitstop

David Roberts (@drvox), my newest follow. He’s good.

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The points in this post seem appropriate to Jacob Wohl as well.

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, it seems to me that Mr. Wohl is completely untethered from the concepts of truth and falsehood. Further, he seems unaware that others do not appreciate this.

Additionally, his whole goal seems to be to manipulate others for his own benefit. (Aka grifting) And he seems unaware that others might not appreciate this.

I suspect that he is likely to be legally, as well as socially and economically sanctioned. And he seems blissfully unaware of this as well.

As others have pointed out, his behavior probably came from somewhere. Shame on those that left him so unprepared for life outside the bubble.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:36:07am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:36:37am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is Barack Obama always campaigning?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:39:34am

What’s the over/under on Trump passing out by the end of the second rally?

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:39:41am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

What a tool you are Marco. You benefited from the same immigration policies you and Trump want to reverse. History if it remembers you at all will be that of a sad sack of shit with no principles.

I wonder what that punk thinks about the Mariel boatlift of 1980 and how he weighs it with The Caravan™ of today?

So, I did a little digging and saw this. Two years ago he was quoted.

He’d sell his own people if it got him advanced politically.

Marco Rubio recalls experiencing racism during Mariel boat-lift

Sen. Marco Rubio recalled the racism he faced as a child as Cubans immigrated to the U.S. during the Mariel boat-lift of 1980.

“Some of the kids, the older kids, were taunting my family: ‘Why don’t you go back on your boat?’” Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants, said during a GOP candidates forum Wednesday in South Carolina. “I said, ‘What boat? My mom doesn’t even swim.’”

Rubio said he was a 7-year-old living in Las Vegas when the Mariel boat-lift took place during an economic downturn in Cuba. As many as 125,000 Cubans in six months made the journey from Mariel Harbor in Cuba to Florida.

“I didn’t see it as a reflection on America; I saw it as a reflection on those kids,” Rubio said, adding that his parents, who immigrated to the U.S. from Cuba in 1956, raised him and his siblings to never believe they were victims.

- more at link -

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:40:05am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:41:13am

re: #286 ObserverArt

I wonder what that punk thinks about the Mariel boatlift of 1980 and how he weighs it with The Caravan™ of today?

So, I did a little digging and saw this. Two years ago he was quoted.

He’d sell his own people if it got him advanced politically.

Marco Rubio recalls experiencing racism during Mariel boat-lift

I have a real special hatred for him and Cruz because as Cuban-Americans, they benefited from our very liberal immigration policies with Cuban immigrants especially Cruz. I don’t care but a little bit of fucking empathy for immigrants today would be nice form either of tohse two punk asses.

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:41:26am

Never mind….

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:42:06am

I had to run out for a switch for one of my guitars, and on the way to the parts place I heard that NYPD announced that the two Saudi sisters who were found duct taped together in the Hudson River committed suicide.

Yeah, not buying that. Not for a second.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:44:51am

as you may remember i’m currently living in the comforting bubble of West Wing reruns

season 3, episode 18 was a documentary style special in which they interviewed a bunch of real people and intermixed them with apropos clips from the first three seasons

they interviewed dee dee myers, marlin fitzwater, peggy noonan, betty currie, ken duberstein, leon panetta, paul begala, karl rove, kissinger a few others

and a couple of guys named Carter, Ford and Clinton

anyway David Gergen made a nice aspirational comment:

the best thing about our best presidents has been that they have a sense of how much better we can be than we are

and they have a sense of potential, of possibility. to maintain that sense of possibility, about who we can be as a people. and then encourage us to have great dreams. that’s when leaders produce action. thats what you want to keep alive in the white house

then the episode ended and i had a sad

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:46:43am

re: #291 dangerman

as you may remember i’m currently living in the comforting bubble of West Wing reruns

season 3, episode 18 was a documentary style special in which they interviewed a bunch of real people and intermixed them with apropos clips from the first three seasons

they interviewed dee dee myers, marlin fitzwater, peggy noonan, betty currie, ken duberstein, leon panetta, paul begala, karl rove, kissinger a few others

and a couple of guys named Carter, Ford and Clinton

anyway David Gergen made a nice aspirational comment:

then the episode ended and i had a sad

Sigh that comment. That’s so the opposite of what Trump is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:47:39am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

I sure hope I can still move like that when I’m almost 80.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:47:53am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope I’m that spry at 78.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:48:31am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s idiotic even for Rubio’s standards.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:48:33am

re: #290 makeitstop

I’m inclined to agree. That seems needlessly convoluted for a suicide.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:50:17am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

I have a real special hatred for him and Cruz because as Cuban-Americans, they benefited from our very liberal immigration policies with Cuban immigrants especially Cruz. I don’t care but a little bit of fucking empathy for immigrants today would be nice form either of tohse two punk asses.

we should stop being so surprised or incensed when we see yet another example of republicanism:

- hypocrisy
- do as i say not as i do
- i got mine, fuck you
- yes this was a big personal benefit to me. yes i want to end it for anyone else

we already know what they are. we already know they will not change one whit
they’re just adding exactly the same data points over and over again

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:51:39am

re: #297 dangerman

we should stop being so surprised or incensed when we see yet another example of republicanism:

- hypocrisy
- do as i say not as i do
- i got mine, fuck you
- yes this was a big personal benefit to me. yes i want to end it for anyone else

we already know what they are. we already know they will not change one whit
they’re just adding exactly the same data points over and over again

No surprise just disgust here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:52:42am

re: #290 makeitstop

I had to run out for a switch for one of my guitars, and on the way to the parts place I heard that NYPD announced that the two Saudi sisters who were found duct taped together in the Hudson River committed suicide.

Yeah, not buying that. Not for a second.

Well, in theory they could, but it seems like an extraordinary claim.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:54:23am

re: #290 makeitstop

I had to run out for a switch for one of my guitars, and on the way to the parts place I heard that NYPD announced that the two Saudi sisters who were found duct taped together in the Hudson River committed suicide.

Yeah, not buying that. Not for a second.

I can’t believe nobody on YouTube has uploaded that scene from The Fortune where Nicholson panics and throws the trunk with Stockard Channing in it into the ocean. Beatty comes back: “It was supposed to look like suicide! What, she locked herself in a trunk and threw herself into the ocean?!” Nicholson: “My mind went blank!”

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Archangelus  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:54:28am
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dirkdigglerjr  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:55:34am

re: #197 Targetpractice

Play Red Dead Redemption 2 instead

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:55:39am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Sigh that comment. That’s so the opposite of what Trump is.

It’s the opposite of what Reagan was, but Gergen looooved him….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:56:10am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:56:32am

re: #301 Archangelus

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Lots of fail there. So aside from being racist, it was full of lies too. Par the course for Dumbald.

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danarchy  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:58:59am

re: #290 makeitstop

I had to run out for a switch for one of my guitars, and on the way to the parts place I heard that NYPD announced that the two Saudi sisters who were found duct taped together in the Hudson River committed suicide.

Yeah, not buying that. Not for a second.

Don’t really have enough info to make a judgement on it. I think they were just taped at the waist and ankles but not the hands. I could see that as some weird suicide pact where they wanted to make sure one of them didn’t chicken out. If it was murder I would imagine they wouldn’t leave their hands free.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:59:20am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m inclined to agree. That seems needlessly convoluted for a suicide.

Probably a lot of incentive not to know.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:00:04am

re: #148 wheat-dogg

Ben’s trying hard to garner some attention with this one.

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I wonder what kind of whiskey he drank. Also, how does he know how turpentine tastes like? It might explain a lot.

Turpentine and dandelion wine
I’ve turned the corner and I’m doing fine
Shooting at the birds on the telephone line
Picking ‘em off with this gun of mine
I got a fire in my belly and a fire in my head
Going higher and higher till I’m dead

-Randy Newman

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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:02:15am

re: #290 makeitstop

I had to run out for a switch for one of my guitars, and on the way to the parts place I heard that NYPD announced that the two Saudi sisters who were found duct taped together in the Hudson River committed suicide.

Yeah, not buying that. Not for a second.

Weren’t there reports that their hands and feet were bound with duct tape?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:04:01am

ummm

pretty sure that a bullet in the face is gonna leave a bigger mark than a rock.

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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:07:48am

I’d never heard this story about Hemingway and Welles:

Hemingway, infuriated, picked up a piece of furniture, and, for a moment, two Great American Geniuses began attacking each other with chairs. Having expended their aggression with their egos mutually intact, though, they realized that the whole thing was ridiculous and, according to journalist Josh Karp’s book Orson Welles’s Last Movie: The Making of ‘The Other Side of the Wind’, they quickly “collapsed to the floor in laughter, and shared a bottle of whiskey.” This is the story of how the men became friends.

Obviously a different time with different sensibilities, but damn, to be in that room

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Sir John Barron  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:08:23am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I will tell you this, anybody throwing stones, rocks … we will consider that a firearm, because there’s not much difference when you get hit in the face with a rock.”

Spoken like someone who’s never been outside of his penthouse or red-hatted hate rally.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:08:30am

I see we have another idiotic James O’Keefe hit job being pushed by all the wingnut parrots today. The good thing is that the media seems to have finally learned not to trust this fucking liar.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:09:13am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm

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pretty sure that a bullet in the face is gonna leave a bigger mark than a rock.

Hey, Hey Donald J, how many migrants did you shoot today?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:14:27am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

Lots of fail there. So aside from being racist, it was full of lies too. Par the course for Dumbald. Republicans

Remember the wildly racist ad an opponent ran against John McCain?
The Willie Horton advert?
Mike Huckabee’s pardon?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:16:08am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹

Remember the wildly racist ad an opponent ran against John McCain?
The Willie Horton advert?
Mike Huckabee’s pardon?

Of course I do. But I was talking specifically about this ad and President.

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Teukka  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:16:25am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:17:03am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

Of course I do. But I was talking specifically about this ad and President.

I don’t see how what Donald Trump is doing is any different than other Republicans in the past, save for removing the dog whistles.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:18:25am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t see how what Donald Trump is doing is any different than other Republicans in the past, save for removing the dog whistles.

Didn’t say he wasn’t.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:20:16am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:23:00am

re: #320 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Rage tweet in 3…2…1

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:23:42am

re: #317 Teukka

That’s pretty neat. Thanks for that.

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lawhawk  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:24:39am

re: #322 Anymouse 🌹

That’s pretty neat. Thanks for that.

Heavy…

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ckkatz  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:26:12am

re: #309 KGxvi

“Police initially believed the sisters committed suicide by jumping off of the nearby George Washington Bridge, but further investigation revealed no signs of trauma that would indicate a plunge from the bridge, police said.”

time.com

“Water was found in the sisters’ lungs, the official said, leading investigators to believe they were alive when they entered the water. Police previously said the bodies showed no signs of trauma.”

(Warning, there is autoplay in the below link)
cnn.com

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Lidane  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:27:21am

I am cautiously optimistic going into Election Day, because Ted Cruz has been reduced to peddling a Project Veritas conspiracy to try and knock Beto’s momentum.

An incumbent Republican here in Texas wouldn’t be spreading that kind of obvious bullshit if they were comfortably ahead in the polls. Cruz’s internal numbers must be a complete dumpster fire.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:27:41am
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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:29:29am

re: #317 Teukka

I can’t wait until we find out that the speed of light isn’t a constant and then have to question everything we know about everything.

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Lidane  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:29:33am

re: #326 Kragar

I’m getting a barrage of these kinds of comments today:

“THERE’S VIDEO EVIDENCE!!!!! PROJECT VERITAS SAID SO!!!!!!”

I am amused. Lyin’ Ted is desperate if he’s pulling this shit now.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:31:19am

shocked!

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Jay C  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:32:10am

re: #328 Lidane

I’m getting a barrage of these kinds of comments today:

“THERE’S VIDEO EVIDENCE!!!!! PROJECT VERITAS SAID SO!!!!!!”

I am amused. Lyin’ Ted is desperate if he’s pulling this shit now.

Is this that PV video showing Beto campaign workers supposedly “revealing” their paying for or “support for the refugee caravan”?
The one so heavily edited/dubbed it could be basically about anything?

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:32:35am

re: #271 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Takes The Walking Dead way too seriously.

Huge cache of weapons seized from home, including 35,000 rounds of ammunition

35K rounds is small potatoes by hoarder standards though. A colleague of my brother in Colorado boasts that he has a million rounds stashed in, around, and possibly under his suburban compound. Seems an odd thing to boast about, since ammo stashes will be a major destination if the proverbial stuff did somehow hit the fan in a survival situation.

Firearm owning members of Facebook have compiled the most comprehensive list of US firearm owners.

God is an iron.

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Lidane  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:34:00am

re: #330 Jay C

Is this that PV video showing Beto campaign workers supposedly “revealing” their paying for or “support for the refugee caravan”?
The one so heavily edited/dubbed it could be basically about anything?

You betcha!

Inbred, mouth-breathing MAGA rubes everywhere are breathlessly pretending that the video is evidence of Beto funding the entire caravan. These people are idiots.

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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:34:15am

re: #320 Kragar

I’m still kind of surprised that these cases have gone forward. I would have thought there would have been some “political thicket” decisions, or at least lack of standing decisions with respect to the states (saying that Congress would have to be the one to enforce the provision).

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:37:44am

re: #333 KGxvi

Their target audience is not people who prefer verisimilitude to truth.

A narrative that has the superficial features of proof and confirms their instincts is preferable to actual proof.

Symbols matter more than the thing symbolized.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:39:03am

Love this bit of Gillum thinking in his interview with Trevor Noah of The Daily Show.

You can tell he was heavily influenced and motivated by Barack Obama. From Tallahassee City Commission in 2003 as Tallahassee’s youngest commissioner to mayor in 2014…and now running for Governor.

One thing for sure, he is more a thinker and a better wordsmith than the Orange Puff Ball in the White House who calls him corrupt.

I’ll tell you, I think there is something pretty amazing that the south might be led by the same people that once built the south. I think there is connection through struggle, um, I think there is something powerful, that having come from a community, that um, has been so often neglected, so often, um, um, young know, put at the pit, you know, of the nation if you will, not always respected, in fact for a long time not respected for our contributions and to now be in a place where you can take that kind of historic pain, that kind of historic suffering and to not be angry about what happened and to say, you know what, let’s move forward together.

I do think there is something, um, that connects me to the history of this state and the history of the south in a way that allows me to talk about these issues differently and to help move and progress not only people of color, along through it there will be celebration without a doubt, but also those who may have been historically on the other side of that, the children’s the children’s children of…

Complete YouTube video interview…

youtube.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:40:32am

Trick-or-treaters in blackface, Confederate flags shock family on Halloween (Lehigh Valley Live, Penna., with video)

Two trick-or-treaters, believed to be juvenile males, were out collecting candy Wednesday night in Lower Macungie Township sporting blackface and Confederate flag capes as their costumes.

That’s according to a family who confronted the unidentified pair about their apparently racist costumes, then posted video of the exchange on Facebook.

Esperanza Menendez, 17, told lehighvalleylive.com she was taking part in the township’s trick-or-treat night off Route 100 behind Mack Trucks, with her 10-year-old and 18-year-old sisters, as well as a friend.

(more)

Pennsylvania, famous Confederate state.

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KGxvi  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:41:38am

re: #334 The Ghost of a Flea

Their target audience is not people who prefer verisimilitude to truth.

A narrative that has the superficial features of proof and confirms their instincts is preferable to actual proof.

Symbols matter more than the thing symbolized.

Huh?

My point was more that these cases seem like the sort that judges would have been less inclined to take in the past.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:42:19am

re: #335 ObserverArt

Love this bit of Gillum thinking in his interview with Trevor Noah of The Daily Show.

You can tell he was heavily influenced and motivated by Barack Obama. From Tallahassee City Commission in 2003 as Tallahassee’s youngest commissioner to mayor in 2014…and now running for Governor.

One thing for sure, he is more a thinker and a better wordsmith than the Orange Puff Ball in the White House who calls him corrupt.

Complete YouTube video interview…

youtube.com

We have an African American Lt Governor in Justin Fairfax who I think will probably be the front runner for Governor in 2019 since AG Herring doesn’t really seem to have ambitions beyond AG. Our bench is getting stronger through people like Gillum, Abrams, Beto, & others.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:42:20am

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

Why am I not surprised?

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:44:05am

re: #329 b.d.(soros funded)

shocked!

[Embedded content]

DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM? DO YOU, PUNK?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:44:40am

re: #339 PhillyPretzel

Why am I not surprised?

Because you know the Carville phrase about PA being Philly and Pittsburgh but with Bama in the middle?

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:46:28am

re: #333 KGxvi

I’m still kind of surprised that these cases have gone forward. I would have thought there would have been some “political thicket” decisions, or at least lack of standing decisions with respect to the states (saying that Congress would have to be the one to enforce the provision).

Kavanaugh had it covered.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:46:30am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

The infamous “T.” From the turnpike north and a wide strip down the middle of the state.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:47:04am

re: #277 HappyWarrior

What a tool you are Marco. You benefited from the same immigration policies you and Trump want to reverse. History if it remembers you at all will be that of a sad sack of shit with no principles.

Marco’s parents did *not* benefit from “wet foot, dry foot” US Cuban immigration policy. Edit: Marco’s parents immigrated prior to the Cuban American Adjustment Act.

Any Cuban immigrant who stepped foot onto US soil became eligible for a green card. They might have been initially shipped off to New Jersey, but were allowed to return to the Central and South Florida area.

All other Central and South American immigrants to Miami, had to go stand in the several blocks long line for hours at the Miami immigration building at the corner of Biscayne Blvd and 79 street.

You could drive by the building on Saturday, and the line would be forming waiting for the building to open Monday morning.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:47:06am

Fox Business News’s Stewart Varney and Herman Cain celebrate Donald Trump telling troops to shoot unarmed migrants/asylees:

crooksandliars.com
(with video)

Instead of describing Trump’s words as murder, Varney said, “Immigration is now front and center, arguably the other big issue in the election along with the economy. Front and center, tough line Trump. What do you make of it?”

Cain, who is running the America Fighting Back PAC agreed.

Cain said, “I think the tough talk and the tough line is appropriate. We can’t allow, as the president has said many times, we can’t allow people to just come into this country. It’s more like an invasion.”

(more)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:48:15am

re: #345 Anymouse 🌹

Fox Business News’s Stewart Varney and Herman Cain celebrate Donald Trump telling troops to shoot unarmed migrants/asylees:

crooksandliars.com
(with video)

(more)

Assholes.

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:49:55am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Because you know the Carville phrase about PA being Philly and Pittsburgh but with Bama in the middle?

That’s why I half-jokingly call it ‘Pennsyl-tucky.’ There’s a vast swath of crazy between Philly and Pittsburgh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:50:49am

re: #347 makeitstop

That’s why I half-jokingly call it ‘Pennsyl-tucky.’ There’s a vast swath of crazy between Philly and Pittsburgh.

I’ve used that too. Wasn’t always that way sigh. My grandparents home county went from going for Mondale for Trump.

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ckkatz  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:52:10am

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

Trick-or-treaters in blackface, Confederate flags shock family on Halloween (Lehigh Valley Live, Penna., with video)

(more)

Pennsylvania, famous Confederate state.

Aka ‘Pennsyltucky’.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:53:29am

re: #333 KGxvi

I’m still kind of surprised that these cases have gone forward. I would have thought there would have been some “political thicket” decisions, or at least lack of standing decisions with respect to the states (saying that Congress would have to be the one to enforce the provision).

I could maybe see a potential standing challenge against the Maryland AG but since the US Constitution explicitly grants Congress “exclusive” legislative authority over DC “in all Cases whatsoever” there’s a pretty good separation of powers argument to be made that Congress and not the Court is the proper check on what Constitutional violations the DC AG can or cannot sue over. In any event the harm in question is being felt directly by constituents in these jurisdictions, which themselves are also bound by the provisions of the Constitution.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:53:34am

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t see how what Donald Trump is doing is any different than other Republicans in the past, save for removing the dog whistles.

You know what is different? He was asked not to run the ad. The fucking president went against advisers telling him it was wrong.

Another difference, it was completely wrong in facts.

The Willie Horton ad was bad, but it didn’t completely lie about who all was involved. He was released on a weekend furlough program Dukakis (D) supported. So that is fact though twisted by Lee Atwater.

Clinton put this guy in jail. Under Bush and Arpaio he was let out. Totally backwards from Trump painting it as all Democratic doing.

There is political rubbish and then there is a trash heap a mile high and stinking to high-heaven.

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ckkatz  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:55:52am

Looks like I am slow, makeitstop got there first.

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ObserverArt  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:57:04am

re: #332 Lidane

You betcha!

Inbred, mouth-breathing MAGA rubes everywhere are breathlessly pretending that the video is evidence of Beto funding the entire caravan. These people are idiots.

It is so easy to get them to believe because they are ready to believe and then do. Many of them probably never even see the crappy video and judge it for themselves, they read others take and run with it. Then it becomes book.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:58:26am

re: #317 Teukka

[Embedded content]

That’s a fascinating thread, except I wish he’d stop saying things like “the IPK weighs one kilogram”. It masses one kilogram! It weighs about 9.80665 Newtons. “Weigh” and “kilogram” don’t belong together in the same sentence! [/pet peeve]

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HappyWarrior  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:59:50am

re: #352 ckkatz

Looks like I am slowly, makeitstop got there first.

Nah on the same track. I remember when I went to Gettysburg. I actually saw more CSA regalia than I ever did in Fairfax County. I’m proud of my second grandfather’s service in the Army of the Potomac. I’m proud to be a Virginian too but not the CSA.

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:00:05pm

re: #303 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s the opposite of what Reagan was, but Gergen looooved him….

like i said- im living in my fantasy west wing

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:02:30pm

re: #290 makeitstop

I had to run out for a switch for one of my guitars, and on the way to the parts place I heard that NYPD announced that the two Saudi sisters who were found duct taped together in the Hudson River committed suicide.

Yeah, not buying that. Not for a second.

i vaguely remember some cop show - no idea which one
blue bloods, the closer, law and order any incarnation?

a woman and her child were found in the water bound like that

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dangerman  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:04:09pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm

“I will tell you this, anybody throwing stones, rocks … we will consider that a firearm, because there’s not much difference when you get hit in the face with a rock.”

pretty sure that a bullet in the face is gonna leave a bigger mark than a rock.

dont they have, like, gear?

or maybe police and swat are better equipped for this than the army

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2018 • 12:45:53pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 2, 2018 • 1:18:36pm

re: #334 The Ghost of a Flea

Their target audience is not people who prefer verisimilitude to truth.

A narrative that has the superficial features of proof and confirms their instincts is preferable to actual proof.

Symbols matter more than the thing symbolized.

As George Carlin said, “I leave symbols to the symbol minded!”.


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