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Chrysicat  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:56:21pm

CL’d again…

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹

rawstory.com

Meghan McCain (R-“reasonable conservative”) shows she is fact-challenged on “The View” in a discussion about Stacey Abrams and Oprah Winfrey.

Anna Navarro was on as a guest host.

McCain’s argument was Stacey Abrams (and Beto O’Rourke) should be careful because having people such as Oprah Winfrey campaigning will cause them to be viewed as “liberal elites.”

This is actually even bigger. Ana (one ‘n’) is still a registered R herself, so this is infighting as well as proof that Meghan isn’t a reasonable conservative anymore!

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 6:59:49pm

re: #1 Chrysicat

CL’d again…

This is actually even bigger. Ana (one ‘n’) is still a registered R herself, so this is infighting as well as proof that Meghan isn’t a reasonable conservative anymore!

Now that Daddy is dead Meghan will become more open and honest with her extreme wingnut views. Daddy tempered her crazy and now he is gone, so is Meghan.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:03:24pm

4 days to the election and the Huffington Post’s above the fold story is an interview grilling DNC leader Perez?

wft?

Really?

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:06:39pm

I got CL’d too. What was your first browser?

re: #243 Charles Johnson

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I remember my first browser. Mosaic, early 1994. A revelation after message boards.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:07:20pm
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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:07:43pm

re: #2 b.d.(soros funded)

Now that Daddy is dead Meghan will become more open and honest with her extreme wingnut views. Daddy tempered her crazy and now he is gone, so is Meghan.

Harsh, but probably accurate.

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calochortus  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:15:15pm

OT: Does anyone here have experience with Total Wireless as a cell phone provider? I’ve been on my daughter and son-in-law’s plan, but I’m getting a smart phone and it’s time to be an adult and have my own. I don’t use my current phone much, and never having had a smart phone I have no idea how much data I might use (probably not much, but you never know.) Prepaid seems like a good choice and they use Verizon’s system so the coverage will be good (Sprint is iffy in many places we go.)

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:17:51pm

So in 96 hours, we should be beginning to see the voting results of this year’s mid-terms.

It will either be the beginning of the end for American democracy, or the end of the beginning, where we will have to work like hell to put it back together again.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:18:01pm

re: #2 b.d.(soros funded)

Her husband is someone important at The Federalist, and I hate to say it, but maybe she’s echoing the rhetoric of that dude because, you know, patriarchy and stuff.

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MsJ  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:19:19pm

re: #2 b.d.(soros funded)

Now that Daddy is dead Meghan will become more open and honest with her extreme wingnut views. Daddy tempered her crazy and now he is gone, so is Meghan.

Her new husband turned her into a real bloodsucker.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:21:39pm

Hey, in good news, I voted straight Democratic ticket and if I wasn’t sure, voted for women. The polls were busy which was a shocker. Nevada has more registered Democrats than Republicans. From what I’ve read, both parties have been voting en force. I’m hoping that Democrats have decided to get off their butts and voted to get Heller out of the Senate. I must admit that I’ve been very impressed with the GOTV for Democrats. I’ve had countless people show up to my house encouraging me to vote. I’m hoping that is working on getting people to the polls.

Oh, and one of the ballot measures has to do with changing the Nevada Constitution to automatic voter registration and change of address whenever conducting business with the DMV. I don’t usually vote to change the constitution, but I like that one. It will have to be voted on again in two years, but crossing fingers that passes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:22:18pm

re: #10 The Ghost of a Flea

I have some confidence in this statement because her new hot takes rhyme with the absolute shit chucked out by that source.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:23:11pm

re: #10 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #11 MsJ

So the wingnuts were able to co-opt the spawn of a “maverick, moderate republican” to try and mainstream their extremist agenda.

I am not shocked, I think Meghan will flame out in a totally embarrassing fashion.

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calochortus  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:24:26pm

re: #12 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Hey, in good news, I voted straight Democratic ticket and if I wasn’t sure, voted for women. The polls were busy which was a shocker. Nevada has more registered Democrats than Republicans. From what I’ve read, both parties have been voting en force. I’m hoping that Democrats have decided to get off their butts and voted to get Heller out of the Senate. I must admit that I’ve been very impressed with the GOTV for Democrats. I’ve had countless people show up to my house encouraging me to vote. I’m hoping that is working on getting people to the polls.

Oh, and one of the ballot measures has to do with changing the Nevada Constitution to automatic voter registration and change of address whenever conducting business with the DMV. I don’t usually vote to change the constitution, but I like that one. It will have to be voted on again in two years, but crossing fingers that passes.

Why do you need to vote on it again? Do you have to reconsider amendments to make sure voters really meant it?

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:25:12pm

Collier is an amazing musician that doesn’t come around often at all. Can he make a great living being awesome beyond all recognition but not necessarily commercially popular? I am ignorant of the artistic industry.

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:25:17pm

re: #14 b.d.(soros funded)

So the wingnuts were able to co-opt the spawn of a “maverick, moderate republican” to try and mainstream their extremist agenda.

I am not shocked, I think Meghan will flame out in a totally embarrassing fashion.

Not the first time; Mitt Romney is also the spawn of a “maverick, moderate Republican”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:26:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:28:20pm

Three tweets …

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makeitstop  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:32:12pm

Holy crap, is that kid funky.

It’s like he’s a 21st century Stevie Wonder. That’s just innovative af.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:32:12pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:32:39pm

re: #15 calochortus

Why do you need to vote on it again? Do you have to reconsider amendments to make sure voters really meant it?

Yes, pretty much. It seems weird because some things I think need to be changed in the constitution immediately, but then there are others, like when they tried to make marriage between a man and a woman constitutional…well, it should take some years to make that happen.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:34:03pm
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jaunte  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:34:32pm

Sorry, meant to paste this one:

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:38:10pm

re: #24 jaunte

Sorry, meant to past this one:

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All those extra people can’t be showing up to vote for Ted Cruz, can they?

Ted Cruz won because he capitalized on how awful his opponents were (and they were), I am not seeing how he has cast Beto in that same light.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:38:36pm
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jaunte  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:40:41pm

re: #25 b.d.(soros funded)

I think the extra numbers have to favor Democrats; the Republicans in Texas have pretty much maxed out their voter turnout.

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calochortus  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:41:59pm

re: #27 jaunte

I think the extra numbers have to favor Democrats; the Republicans in Texas have pretty much maxed out their voter turnout.

That’s what I was just saying to Mr. C. I hope it’s true.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:42:40pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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Would it not be the irony of ironies if the midterms that kick Donny square in the balls are carried for the DNC by a tidal wave of youth voters?

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:42:57pm

re: #27 jaunte

I think the extra numbers have to favor Democrats; the Republicans in Texas have pretty much maxed out their voter turnout.

I have been hoping what you are saying for decades, fingers crossed.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:45:53pm

Barbara Streisand is on Bill Maher and is going on and on how so much a like Repubs and Dems are, Bob Dole and her talk to each other!

What a bubble. Disgusting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:52:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 2, 2018 • 7:54:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:00:53pm

Rick Wiles: The Laughable Right-Wing Effort to Take Down Mueller Is Really an Israeli Intelligence Operation to Protect Trump (Right Wing Watch, more at the link):

On his “TruNews” program last night, End Times broadcaster Rick Wiles floated a truly bizarre theory that the laughable right-wing effort to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller by accusing him of sexual assault is actually an Israeli intelligence operation designed to protect President Trump.

As Jared reported yesterday, disreputable right-wing operatives Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman held an absurd press conference in which they alleged that Mueller had sexually assaulted a woman in 2010 and claimed that the allegations had been vetted and verified by a private investigation firm called Surefire Intelligence.

The only problem is that Surefire Intelligence doesn’t seem to actually exist, as all of the biographies of the supposed staff members listed on the website were fake and the phone number listed for the company went to Wohl’s mother’s voicemail. Among the fake photos used for the non-existent staff was one of Israeli supermodel Bar Refaeli, which has convinced Wiles that this effort to discredit Mueller is being carried out by the Israelis.

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calochortus  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:02:31pm

Mr. C. is opening the wine, so I’ll say good night.

Hasta mañana, Lizards

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:05:02pm
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De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:07:39pm

BREAKING NEWS FROM BREITFART— Andrew Gillum is a card-carrying member of T.H.R.U.S.H. (The Technological Hierarchy for the Removal of Undesirables and the Subjugation of Humanity) and nobody, especially Deep State U.N.C.L.E., gives a shit!!!

Notice how the outline of their logo is in black? Wake up sheeple!
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jaunte  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:08:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:09:35pm

Speaking of nutbars who Right Wing Watch reports on:

John Guandolo, the disgraced former FBI agent and right-wing conspiracy theorist who now trains law enforcement agencies around the country to identify seemingly anyone with dark skin and a beard as an Islamic terrorist, appeared on “The Alex Jones Show” yesterday to promote his theory that the recent deadly attack on a synagogue in Pittsburgh was really a Marxist/Jihadi operation.

Guandolo, who has been suspended from Twitter for claiming that the shooting was carried out by a Marxist Democrat, told Jones that the attack, like the recent spate of mail bombs that had been sent to prominent Democrats, was part of a massive disinformation campaign. (more)
rightwingwatch.org

So Twitter finally got around to suspending this guy?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:17:20pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

Speaking of nutbars who Right Wing Watch reports on:

John Guandolo, the disgraced former FBI agent and right-wing conspiracy theorist who now trains law enforcement agencies around the country to identify seemingly anyone with dark skin and a beard as an Islamic terrorist, appeared on “The Alex Jones Show” yesterday to promote his theory that the recent deadly attack on a synagogue in Pittsburgh was really a Marxist/Jihadi operation.

Guandolo, who has been suspended from Twitter for claiming that the shooting was carried out by a Marxist Democrat, told Jones that the attack, like the recent spate of mail bombs that had been sent to prominent Democrats, was part of a massive disinformation campaign. (more)
rightwingwatch.org

So Twitter finally got around to suspending this guy?

@jack sees nothing wrong with anything a Libertarian posts…until it hurts his bottom line!

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:18:39pm

re: #38 jaunte

I find it quite amusing, and quite apt, that for the past several years Nation of Islam members have been required to take Scientology courses, and membership in both cults is at all time lows.

Less brainwashing, more mediocre bean pies!!!

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:31:21pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Would it not be the irony of ironies if the midterms that kick Donny square in the balls are carried for the DNC by a tidal wave of youth voters?

And you tend to vote the same way for a long time.

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sagehen  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:33:51pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Would it not be the irony of ironies if the midterms that kick Donny square in the balls are carried for the DNC by a tidal wave of youth voters?

I hope somebody’s explained to the kids about double-checking the last page of their ballot to be sure votes weren’t flipped…

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:34:33pm

re: #41 De Kolta Chair

Years ago my wife worked for a company that was destroyed from within by Scientologists.
It was like witnessing an Invasion of the Body Snatchers science-fiction/horror story in real life.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:38:38pm

re: #43 sagehen

I hope somebody’s explained to the kids about double-checking the last page of their ballot to be sure votes weren’t flipped…

I told everyone I remind to vote to not vote straight ticket, and to tell the people they talk to to do the same thing, which includes my son at UTD.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:47:18pm

re: #45 Belafon

I told everyone I remind to vote to not vote straight ticket, and to tell the people they talk to to do the same thing, which includes my son at UTD.

Do you mean by “straight ticket” that some states have an option where you just push a button for voting for all Democrats or all Republicans?

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:50:51pm

re: #46 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Do you mean by “straight ticket” that some states have an option where you just push a button for voting for all Democrats or all Republicans?

Yes.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:51:37pm

Yeah, I meant, don’t select the option at the front. Go through each page separately, then check at the end, and if like where I voted, you get a printout, check that as well.

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jaunte  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:52:16pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:52:36pm

I had told a childhood friend that I would vote for him for constable. It’s a non-partisan office, but partisan on the ticket. I decided at the last minute that since he has not denounced Trump that I’ve seen, I wouldn’t and did not vote for him. I just left that blank. Funny thing is that Jimmy Kimmel had given him an endorsement and I was arguing with GOPers that the position was non-partisan and I’m a Democrat. He really is the most qualified. They were saying that they were withdrawing their vote for him based on Kimmel’s endorsement (hell, they’ve been friends since they were kids and I yelled at Kimmel when we were in marching band together because he couldn’t get his shit together!), but I withdrew my vote based on the fact that I won’t vote for anyone who won’t denounce Trump. Sorry, Jimmy Vega. I know I promised, but…

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:53:22pm

re: #45 Belafon

I told everyone I remind to vote to not vote straight ticket, and to tell the people they talk to to do the same thing, which includes my son at UTD.

This is the last election in Texas where you can vote straight party ticket.

I am not sure of the Republican in charge thinking that made them think this would work out better for them?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:54:28pm

re: #48 Belafon

Yeah, I meant, don’t select the option at the front. Go through each page separately, then check at the end, and if like where I voted, you get a printout, check that as well.

Okay, that makes sense. We have electronic voting machines, but don’t have the option of voting straight party. We do have the paper ballot that prints after we choose our votes on the machine and we are supposed to check that to make sure our votes are recorded as we voted.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:57:37pm

re: #50 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Cold blooded but the right call. Imagine voting for him and getting eternally reminded what a bad vote that was by constant wingnut posts from him?

Tough call, I have numerous friends on Facebook that I loved in my youth but are now just completely swallowed into the cult of the the right wing.

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2018 • 8:59:49pm

re: #44 jaunte

Roger Corman and Vincent Price: the only cult I’d ever join, aside from the GB Packers as wide receiver…

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:04:04pm

re: #53 bd(soros funded)

Cold blooded but the right call. Imagine voting for him and getting eternally reminded what a bad vote that was by constant wingnut posts from him?

Tough call, I have numerous friends on Facebook that I loved in my youth but are now just completely swallowed into the cult of the the right wing.

You know, though, he hasn’t posted anything Trump-like. I know that he is a Republican, but he’s only posted things that he is doing for Veterans, which is a lot, and just lots of community service things. The fact that he is GOP, though, and I agonized over this for a long time, has led me to not vote for him, even though constable is really a non-partisan office and I have no idea why they make it partisan. Just for that reason only is why I couldn’t bring myself to vote for him. Even thought he really seems like he’s got all the credentials to do the job well. He’s probably going to be elected, so I’m not worried about that. Just couldn’t bring myself to punch the button for him. :-( I hate that things have gotten to this point.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:07:35pm

Trying to decide whether or not to take next Wednesday off?

I typically enjoy a cocktail or two on election night. l took the day after the last election off thinking I was going to be be hung over after partying, I had now idea the horror that awaited me!

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:11:18pm

re: #55 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

You upheld your duty as a voting citizen and if he gets elected then he should do the duty that he swears an oath to. The ball is in his court, I would still tell him that you voted for him if he pulls you over….

Sleep well.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:11:59pm

re: #56 bd(soros funded)

Trying to decide whether or not to take next Wednesday off?

I typically enjoy a cocktail or two on election night. l took the day after the last election off thinking I was going to be be hung over after partying, I had now idea the horror that awaited me!

Since I’m 13 hours ahead of Eastern Time, the polls will close when it’s Wednesday morning here in China. Coincidentally, I don’t have classes at that time, so I can watch as the results roll in. But I need to be sober, since I have classes later that day.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:13:11pm

Brand new chairlift at Arapahoe Basin.

I have mixed feelings about this. The chairlift accesses an area called the Beavers and Steep Gullies. It was choice out-of-bounds terrain that required a hike back to Highway 6 and a hitchhike back to the base of the ski area, in other words, you had to be prepared and that weeded out the tourist element. The Steep Gullies, in particular, are not to be trifled with, high angle high consequence skiing, people have died in those lines. Now there’s a chairlift, and any yahoo with rental skis from Breeze can go over there now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:14:38pm

LOL another conserva-fail:

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:18:00pm

re: #53 bd(soros funded)

Cold blooded but the right call. Imagine voting for him and getting eternally reminded what a bad vote that was by constant wingnut posts from him?

Tough call, I have numerous friends on Facebook that I loved in my youth but are now just completely swallowed into the cult of the the right wing.

Well, of those in my high school class (sixteen other people), half are now deceased and the rest are mostly RWNJs, except one woman who joined the Army at the same time I joined the Navy.

(There is a school alumni site on which I’ve kept track of those I went to school with.)

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De Kolta Chair  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:18:55pm

‘night all and sweet dreams guv

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:26:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:38:37pm

Well, time to say good-bye for now … catch y’all later …

Miss Sally Romper Room Magic Mirror

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:45:33pm
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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:46:34pm

John Warner is endorsing Democrats in VA, including Tim Kaine: dailykos.com.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:47:04pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:47:11pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

Well, time to say good-bye for now … catch y’all later …

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I waited and waited, but she never said “…and I see Dougie…”

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:53:29pm

🚨🚨🚨 NUCLEAR HOT TAKE ALERT 🚨🚨🚨

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wheat-dogg  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:53:50pm

Il Trumpino is having a bad day in court. WaPo headlines:


Trump request to stay emoluments suit denied, potentially allowing plaintiffs to seek details on his D.C. hotel’s foreign customers


Supreme Court refuses to delay case alleging an improper political motive in decision to add citizenship question to census

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:58:37pm

re: #70 wheat-dogg

Il Trumpino is having a bad day in court. WaPo headlines:

Trump request to stay emoluments suit denied, potentially allowing plaintiffs to seek details on his D.C. hotel’s foreign customers

Supreme Court refuses to delay case alleging an improper political motive in decision to add citizenship question to census

And the Supreme Court refused to stop the lawsuit by kids over climate change.

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BeachDem  Nov 2, 2018 • 9:58:58pm

re: #2 b.d.(soros funded)

Now that Daddy is dead Meghan will become more open and honest with her extreme wingnut views. Daddy tempered her crazy and now he is gone, so is Meghan.

re: #11 MsJ

Her new husband turned her into a real bloodsucker.

Please don’t take away Meghan’s agency. Other than on some social issues, she’s always been a bit of an asshole and a dim bulb.

On the Republican convention: I loved it. The time that I always love Donald Trump the most is when he’s going after Hillary’s jugular. I like Chris Christie’s speech. I think we were actually a little light on her. Like, am I the only one that’s like we can go after her even harder? She should be sitting in jail

On Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland: I think this is exactly why people hate President Obama because he will possibly sacrifice this man’s career simply for his own political benefit.

On/to Trump during the primaries: What I’m looking for is someone who’s not going to take bullshit, not going to let the media run them around, and who is going to give it back to Obama. And you seem to be the only person who’s really doing it right now.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:00:57pm

re: #72 BeachDem

Please don’t take away Meghan’s agency. Other than on some social issues, she’s always been a bit of an asshole and a dim bulb.

On the Republican convention: I loved it. The time that I always love Donald Trump the most is when he’s going after Hillary’s jugular. I like Chris Christie’s speech. I think we were actually a little light on her. Like, am I the only one that’s like we can go after her even harder? She should be sitting in jail

On Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland: I think this is exactly why people hate President Obama because he will possibly sacrifice this man’s career simply for his own political benefit.

On/to Trump during the primaries: What I’m looking for is someone who’s not going to take bullshit, not going to let the media run them around, and who is going to give it back to Obama. And you seem to be the only person who’s really doing it right now.

Great point.

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Belafon  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:22:11pm

I saw an ad on yahoo email, in the side bar, that said that if you’re with the VA, you can go to Walgreens and get a flu shot at no cost to you.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:28:35pm

WTH happened to the thread? Did I kill it or did Belafon?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:32:30pm

Been slow for hours guys……

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:33:10pm

re: #56 bd(soros funded)

Trying to decide whether or not to take next Wednesday off?

I typically enjoy a cocktail or two on election night. l took the day after the last election off thinking I was going to be be hung over after partying, I had now idea the horror that awaited me!

Keep your powder dry. You’ll know by 11:00 how the vote is going to go.

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Targetpractice  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:34:07pm

Braaaaiiiinnnnssss….

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:36:02pm

re: #74 Belafon

I saw an ad on yahoo email, in the side bar, that said that if you’re with the VA, you can go to Walgreens and get a flu shot at no cost to you.

If you’re with the VA, you have Tricare coverage.

That aside, immunisations are covered by all insurance plans, so that’s mostly a pitch by Walgreens to get veterans.

I already got a shot at Safeway so I’ll pass on Walgreens. G’night y’all.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:37:20pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

Braaaaiiiinnnnssss….

Giphy

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:37:59pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

Brand new chairlift at Arapahoe Basin.

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I have mixed feelings about this. The chairlift accesses an area called the Beavers and Steep Gullies. It was choice out-of-bounds terrain that required a hike back to Highway 6 and a hitchhike back to the base of the ski area, in other words, you had to be prepared and that weeded out the tourist element. The Steep Gullies, in particular, are not to be trifled with, high angle high consequence skiing, people have died in those lines. Now there’s a chairlift, and any yahoo with rental skis from Breeze can go over there now.

That area is all above the tree line, isn’t it? As I recall, it’s powder heaven, but there’s a lot of places where you can get into a world of shit.

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William Lewis  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:38:16pm

re: #74 Belafon

I saw an ad on yahoo email, in the side bar, that said that if you’re with the VA, you can go to Walgreens and get a flu shot at no cost to you.

I’ll need to swing by and check that out. Thank you!

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:38:47pm

I was talking to one of my sisters today and she told me about the crazy in her town, Spokane. We all grew up there but I was smart and got my wife and kid out of there back in 1992, moving to Brookings, Oregon. The crazy?

Washington State Rep. Matt Shea (R-acist) and his “Biblical Basis for War”. If you want a definition of “Holy Shit”, this is shit is it . Conservative, Dominionist nutcase and five term state rep all wrapped up in one. Some choice bits:

Regarding section 10 of his Rules of War:

c. Make an offer of Peace before declaring war.
i. Not a negotiation or compromise of righteousness.
ii. Must surrender on terms of justice and righteousness:
1. Stop all abortions;
2. No same-­sex marriage;
3. No idolatry or occultism;
4. No communism; and
5. Must obey Biblical law.
iii. If they yield - must pay share of work or taxes.
iv. If they do not yield - kill all males.

I’m guessing women fall under subsection g: Law of Booty

Knowing eastern Washington, he’ll probably coast to an easy victory.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:39:39pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

If you’re with the VA, you have Tricare coverage.

That aside, immunisations are covered by all insurance plans, so that’s mostly a pitch by Walgreens to get veterans.

I already got a shot at Safeway so I’ll pass on Walgreens. G’night y’all.

I’d pass on Walgreen’s most any time. I’d also pass on CVS, but that’s where I can get “free” flu shots for my family. CVS sucks. When I got divorced and moved, I chose the nearest pharmacy to me for my prescriptions which happened to be CVS. My insurance does not over omeprazole and CVS was going to charge me $120+ for a month for the generic! I get the same thing at Sav-On for $12. CVS can kiss my ass.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:41:00pm

re: #83 Odie Hugh Manatee

I was talking to one of my sisters today and she told me about the crazy in her town, Spokane. We all grew up there but I was smart and got my wife and kid out of there back in 1992, moving to Brookings, Oregon. The crazy?

Washington State Rep. Matt Shea (R-acist) and his “Biblical Basis for War”. If you want a definition of “Holy Shit”, this is shit is it . Conservative, Dominionist nutcase and five term state rep all wrapped up in one. Some choice bits:

Regarding section 10 of his Rules of War:

I’m guessing women fall under subsection g: Law of Booty

Knowing eastern Washington, he’ll probably coast to an easy victory.

That’s some crazy shit, and I’ve seen lots of crazy shit recently.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:44:49pm

re: #81 austin_blue

That area is all above the tree line, isn’t it? As I recall, it’s powder heaven, but there’s a lot of places where you can get into a world of shit.

Mid-mountain is treeline, plenty of trees on the lower part. And yeah, there’s a lot of places where non-expert skiers can get in over their heads. And now there’s more places where that can happen. Steep Gullies is no joke.

Here they are from a plane:

Granted, the new chairlift also acts as an egress for the more lower angle terrain to the right in the picture, in fact Arapahoe Basin cut a few new runs in that area, which was mostly beetle killed evergreens, and all those runs are intermediate trails (blue square). But now it’s super easy to get to some dangerous terrain. I hope ski patrol brushes up on their rope rescue skills.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:52:06pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:52:27pm

re: #83 Odie Hugh Manatee

Eastern Washington, panhandle of Idaho, a good lot of western Montana. Lotta white nutters in that area. Ruby Ridge. David Lane and The Order. Richard Butler. Richard Spencer currently lives with his parents outside of Whitefish. It’s been a hotbed for crazy paranoid white people for some time.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:52:56pm

re: #41 De Kolta Chair

I find it quite amusing, and quite apt, that for the past several years Nation of Islam members have been required to take Scientology courses, and membership in both cults is at all time lows.

Less brainwashing, more mediocre bean pies!!!

Yeah, the connection between the NoI and the Church of $cientology in recent years has to be one of the most under-reported WTF stories floating around out there.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:53:03pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

Mid-mountain is treeline, plenty of trees on the lower part. And yeah, there’s a lot of places where non-expert skiers can get in over their heads. And now there’s more places where that can happen. Steep Gullies is no joke.

Here they are from a plane:

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Granted, the new chairlift also acts as an egress for the more lower angle terrain to the right in the picture, in fact Arapahoe Basin cut a few new runs in that area, which was mostly beetle killed evergreens, and all those runs are intermediate trails (blue square). But now it’s super easy to get to some dangerous terrain. I hope ski patrol brushes up on their rope rescue skills.

I have only cross-country skiied and it scared the crap out of me when there was a slight decline in the terrain and I felt I had no control. There is no way that I could ski on a slope. Nope. Not gonna do it. That photo is especially scary!

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:54:46pm

re: #90 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I have only cross-country skiied and it scared the crap out of me when there was a slight decline in the terrain and I felt I had no control. There is no way that I could ski in a slope. Nope. Not gonna do it. That photo is especially scary!

I’ve skied that a few times. I’ve never freeheeled it, though.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:57:14pm

I thought I would throw in a couple of pictures of the tree(s) being taken out from behind our house. This is a pic of the base, which is freaking huge.

Soon to be a four foot high stump…

The tree split into two at the base so it’s two trees being taken out. Here’s a shot of one of the guys rigging up the next drop (he’s about 45 feet up with about 25 more to go):

I did this for one summer, that was enough for me…

We’re looking forward to more sun and so is our garden since the tree pretty much blocked all light from the west. That and reclaiming the back yard (stumps next!) from that damned tree.

ETA: The tree to the right of the one the guy is in is the other ‘side’ of the tree. They’re stripping both as they work their way up.

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:57:39pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

Mid-mountain is treeline, plenty of trees on the lower part. And yeah, there’s a lot of places where non-expert skiers can get in over their heads. And now there’s more places where that can happen. Steep Gullies is no joke.

Here they are from a plane:

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Granted, the new chairlift also acts as an egress for the more lower angle terrain to the right in the picture, in fact Arapahoe Basin cut a few new runs in that area, which was mostly beetle killed evergreens, and all those runs are intermediate trails (blue square). But now it’s super easy to get to some dangerous terrain. I hope ski patrol brushes up on their rope rescue skills.

Wait, is this new lift over in the west side of the Basin, above the North Fork of the Snake, ending around the Cornice? That drop is brutal.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:59:09pm

re: #83 Odie Hugh Manatee

I mean, that’s how some people get booty, historically speaking…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:59:18pm

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, the connection between the NoI and the Church of $cientology in recent years has to be one of the most under-reported WTF stories floating around out there.

I had to go to Kaiser in Hollywood today for a blood draw and once again there were a pair of $¢ientologist$ outside of each building’s entrance on Sunset passing out their free movie and test passes. I guess I got on their “Shhhhaaaavvvviiinnnggg Cream” list by always asking those stooges…”Hey How’s Xenu? Is he still in that prison cell powered by an eternal battery under Mt. Etna?”

Then I laugh at their blank brainwashed faces…

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 10:59:35pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

Last time I skied this was in 2011 when I was living in Denver. It was one of only three days I alpine skied that season as opposed to my usual telemark, because it was a big snow year and avalanching was a possibility. In high consequence terrain like that I want clamps that *release* my feet from my skis if need be, and my telemark bindings don’t release at all, they’re bear traps.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:03:46pm

re: #93 austin_blue

Wait, is this new lift over in the west side of the Basin, above the North Fork of the Snake, ending around the Cornice? That drop is brutal.

Yup. The new trails in the Beavers area, to the west of Steep Gullies are definitely mellower. But access and egress to Steep Gullies is now stoopid easy for any gomer from Texas (no offense to the good Texan skiers and snowboarders out there, they do exist!) to say to his buddies “HEY WATCH ME DO THIS!” and get cliffed out or worse.

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:05:37pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Oh yeah, almost forgot. austin_blue, here’s the new trail map. Notice that Norway lift was removed.

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:23:09pm

re: #97 teleskiguy

Yup. The new trails in the Beavers area, to the west of Steep Gullies are definitely mellower. But access and egress to Steep Gullies is now stoopid easy for any gomer from Texas (no offense to the good Texan skiers and snowboarders out there, they do exist!) to say to his buddies “HEY WATCH ME DO THIS!” and get cliffed out or worse.

My late Da was a prophet. In the summer of ‘68, we went trout fishing on the Snake for a couple of days (staying overnight adjacent to A-Basin (cheap!)) and climbed that ridge and looked down into the bowl. Gorgeous view.

I’d skied the bowl several times, and later that year broke my right leg on the transition from the upper bowl into the trees when my ski snagged under a branch and my fucking Marker Rotomat binding didn’t release.

Point being, my old man said, “Eventually, they’ll pull lifts up here and over toward Lenawee. Dangerous as hell.”

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teleskiguy  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:27:13pm

re: #99 austin_blue

My late Da was a prophet. In the summer of ‘68, we went trout fishing on the Snake for a couple of days (staying overnight adjacent to A-Basin (cheap!)) and climbed that ridge and looked down into the bowl. Gorgeous view.

I’d skied the bowl several times, and later that year broke my right leg on the transition from the upper bowl into the trees when my ski snagged under a branch and my fucking Marker Rotomat binding didn’t release.

Point being, my old man said, “Eventually, they’ll pull lifts up here and over toward Lenawee. Dangerous as hell.”

Sounds like you skied Pallavicini before there was a lift there! They strung up a lift in 1972 down that bowl you skied, still there to this day.

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austin_blue  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:29:05pm

Sleep time. Night all.

A peaceful Shabbat to our Jewish cohort. My tears are with you this day. Candles were lit.

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Kragar  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:42:22pm
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sagehen  Nov 2, 2018 • 11:45:17pm

re: #92 Odie Hugh Manatee

I thought I would throw in a couple of pictures of the tree(s) being taken out from behind our house. This is a pic of the base, which is freaking huge.

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We’re looking forward to more sun and so is our garden since the tree pretty much blocked all light from the west. That and reclaiming the back yard (stumps next!) from that damned tree.

ETA: The tree to the right of the one the guy is in is the other ‘side’ of the tree. They’re stripping both as they work their way up.

Are they hauling it away, or cutting it into firewood for you?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:04:03am

OK. So this is weird.

I run Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop (the one that was having problems I’d posted about, the Vaio). Anyway, so I did a patch and it solved nothing; I wound up hooking up an ethernet cable and using it that way to get internet access.

So yesterday evening, I put up a new wallpaper on my laptop - a change of scenery is always nice, as they say.

This morning - everything works perfectly. WiFi, no longer running in low graphics mode, etc.

I’m now left wondering WTF happened?

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:07:44am

re: #104 Dr Lizardo

It’s linuxtown, Jake.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:17:10am

re: #105 Single-handed sailor

It’s linuxtown, Jake.

Heh. I’m thinking, “Was it the old wallpaper?”

Who knows. Whatever it was, I’m glad it’s back to working like normal. It’s a 6 year old laptop, but I do like it. And quite frankly, I don’t have the money to go out and buy a new (or even used) one. Hell, I’m hoping I money to make ends meet this month.

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mmmirele  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:18:39am

re: #89 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, the connection between the NoI and the Church of $cientology in recent years has to be one of the most under-reported WTF stories floating around out there.

I pointed that out in response to Maggie Haberman’s Louis Farrakahn tweet yesterday. It really is a WTF story, but it does warm the cockles of my cold, cold heart that more people than just the standard Scientology watchers know about this particular angle of Scientology weirdness.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:27:26am

re: #107 mmmirele

I pointed that out in response to Maggie Haberman’s Louis Farrakahn tweet yesterday. It really is a WTF story, but it does warm the cockles of my cold, cold heart that more people than just the standard Scientology watchers know about this particular angle of Scientology weirdness.

On the one hand, I can’t think of two more seemingly diametrically opposite ideas - but, on the other hand, there are strong elements of what’s often referred to as a “UFO religion” in both Scientology and the NoI. Perhaps it’s that odd similarity where they found some small measure of common ground and built from there.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:32:19am

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

On the one hand, I can’t think of two more seemingly diametrically opposite ideas - but, on the other hand, there are strong elements of what’s often referred to as a “UFO religion” in both Scientology and the NoI. Perhaps it’s that odd similarity where they found some small measure of common ground and built from there.

I know the NoI came out as antivaxxers a couple of years ago—maybe that’s it?

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:35:35am

re: #109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I know the NoI came out as antivaxxers a couple of years ago—maybe that’s it?

Could well be that, too. They’re both exceedingly fringe-y religious groups in any event.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:36:50am

re: #88 teleskiguy

Oh do I ever know that. I while I wasn’t born there, I spent years 3 through 32 in Spokane. I stomped all over eastern Washington, panhandle Idaho and western Montana and know the area quite well. I don’t know how it is now but when I lived up there, if you aren’t white you don’t travel in northern Idaho at night (edit). Especially the Sandpoint area. Beautiful country but some of the nastiest conservatives you will meet outside the south. I grew up in a poor area of town for some of those years and most of the people I grew up with there are now registered Republicans. One high school friend of mine is now a Lutheran minister and conservative as all fuck. I wonder if he tells his flock about the horrible years of his youth that were loaded with parties, booze, cocaine, weed, mushrooms, hot cars and sex outside of marriage.

I really don’t have to wonder as I already know the answer to that… nope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:37:15am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

Could well be that, too. They’re both exceedingly fringe-y religious groups in any event.

Nation of Islam is the sort of group that the extreme right wants to keep around so they can claim some magical both-sides “balance”.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:41:40am

re: #103 sagehen

They are taking it in part trade for the work. So far they’ve cut over two cords of just branches that look like tree trunks and will be excellent firewood. I’m curious to see what the total is but it’s going to be quite a haul. So far they’ve hauled away five truckloads (dump truck) of chipped smaller branches.

It’s a huge mofo. Bigly! ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:46:50am

When Farrakahn gave a speech at his Million Man March, his major themes were that black men should get jobs, get off drugs and start taking responsibility for their families. The very thing that the GOP would tell them if they addressed them at all.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:03:58am

One would think a reporter would ask the fire marshal particularly with Trump numbers.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:10:49am
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fern01  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:41:25am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹

LOL another conserva-fail:

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They really are stupid. No other word to describe it.

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fern01  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:43:30am

re: #69 teleskiguy

1) Why can’t we discourage voting? Too many people vote. 2) Why is Twitter working with the DNC?

So the stupid admit that it is republicans who want to discourage voting!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:47:27am

re: #118 fern01

So the stupid admit that it is republicans who want to discourage voting!

1) Why can’t we discourage voting? Too many people vote. 2) Why is Twitter working with the DNC?

He is pretty much admitting that low voter turnout favors the GOP.

And what is the problem with Twitter deleting fake accounts?

Oh, those fake accounts were placed there by GOP operatives.

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teleskiguy  Nov 3, 2018 • 2:21:24am

Parker’s eyes *and feet* are protected. Those little footies!

Giphy

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freetoken  Nov 3, 2018 • 2:58:59am

This week in weird science:

Nasal gene spray inspired by llama antibodies could prevent all types of flu

Four llama antibodies and a harmless virus: This outlandish recipe could be the basis of a nasal spray designed to foil infection from all strains of influenza. The spray, containing a virus engineered to make a protein derived from the llama antibodies, has passed its first animal test, protecting mice from every known flu strain that infects humans, a research team reports.

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 3:00:12am

re: #121 freetoken

This week in weird science:

Nasal gene spray inspired by llama antibodies could prevent all types of flu

What happens when research comes out indicating that it leads to autism?

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freetoken  Nov 3, 2018 • 3:27:43am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

More likely, those vaccinated will suddenly express a strong desire for alpaca sweaters.

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Chrysicat  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:04:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:04:54am

re: #111 Odie Hugh Manatee

Oh do I ever know that. I while I wasn’t born there, I spent years 3 through 32 in Spokane. I stomped all over eastern Washington, panhandle Idaho and western Montana and know the area quite well. I don’t know how it is now but when I lived up there, if you aren’t white you don’t travel in northern Idaho at night (edit). Especially the Sandpoint area. Beautiful country but some of the nastiest conservatives you will meet outside the south. I grew up in a poor area of town for some of those years and most of the people I grew up with there are now registered Republicans. One high school friend of mine is now a Lutheran minister and conservative as all fuck. I wonder if he tells his flock about the horrible years of his youth that were loaded with parties, booze, cocaine, weed, mushrooms, hot cars and sex outside of marriage.

I really don’t have to wonder as I already know the answer to that… nope.

Sarah Palin was born in Sandpoint and the family bolted to Alaska shortly thereafter.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:27:13am

re: #107 mmmirele

I pointed that out in response to Maggie Haberman’s Louis Farrakahn tweet yesterday. It really is a WTF story, but it does warm the cockles of my cold, cold heart that more people than just the standard Scientology watchers know about this particular angle of Scientology weirdness.

Ranks right up there along with the $¢ientology takeover of what was remaining of the John Birch Society in the 90s…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:29:27am

moron

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wheat-dogg  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:36:22am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

I will delight in Trump’s dismay when voters everywhere flock to the Democrats on Election Day. I hope every single person he has endorsed loses bigly on Tuesday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:39:31am
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jeffreyw  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:41:54am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:52:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 5:56:48am
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jaunte  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:00:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:00:51am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:08:08am

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wheat-dogg  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:09:41am

re: #135 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Scarecrow was a nice guy, though. Trump is not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:17:48am
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wheat-dogg  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:20:22am

I had to chuckle at this juxtaposition in my timeline just now.

Polls can be wrong, y’know.
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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:22:08am

I see Bill Mitchell is bitching about having to read and hear all the stories about George Soros funding Democrats and all liberal and progressive causes.

Easy fix their Billy boy.

Stop going to all the wingnut sites, reading wingnut tweets and watching Fox News.

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:25:13am

re: #130 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Nice foot warmer.

I think your doggo is in competition with Blind Frog’s Rango for uncomfortable looking sleeping positions, even if completely zonked out in blissful sleep.

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jaunte  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:27:00am

More fraudulent mailers from Ted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:32:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:41:49am

LOLOLOLOL

(the moron-in-chief spelled Kavanaugh’s name wrong in the original tweet, since deleted)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:42:39am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wheat-dogg  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:47:47am

This BREAKING HEADLINE is making the RWNJ channels, so be on the lookout. The Senate Judiciary Commitee is asking the DOJ to investigate a woman who falsely claimed she was the author of a letter alleging a rape by Kavanaugh in the back of a car. She has recanted, saying she did not write the letter and was only seeking attention.

But, the RW media is spinning this to suggest the letter itself and the allegations therein are false. In fact, the author of the letter still remains anonymous and the allegations could still have merit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:51:14am

So if I understand right? She claimed to have written the letter but has admitted that she didn’t write it. Not the same as the accusation itself being false. Mr. I wanted the Central Park Five executed after they were cleared really has a simpleton’s understanding of context.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:54:53am

re: #146 HappyWarrior

So if I understand right? She claimed to have written the letter but has admitted that she didn’t write it. Not the same as the accusation itself being false. Mr. I wanted the Central Park Five executed after they were cleared really has a simpleton’s understanding of context.

This is my understanding after reading the Judiciary Committee’s letter twice. As she did not write the letter, she can neither confirm nor deny its contents.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 6:55:47am

re: #147 wheat-dogg

This is my understanding after reading the Judiciary Committee’s letter twice. As she did not write the letter, she can neither confirm nor deny its contents.

Right so Trump is lying about the context. True to form.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:07:05am

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Right so Trump is lying about the context. True to form.

The right wing noise machine is further obfuscating the matter, by conflating the woman’s lie about being the letter writer with the actual allegations in the letter. And no matter how people with decent reading comprehension skills explain the truth of the matter, it is now RWNJ canon that the entire letter is false.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:12:10am

re: #149 wheat-dogg

The right wing noise machine is further obfuscating the matter, by conflating the woman’s lie about being the letter writer with the actual allegations in the letter. And no matter how people with decent reading comprehension skills explain the truth of the matter, it is now RWNJ canon that the entire letter is false.

They are such bastards. Meanwhile they believe Pizzagate.

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plansbandc  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:24:35am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Racial Stumbles? What in the blithering fuck?

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Jay C  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:39:00am

re: #151 plansbandc

Racial Stumbles? What in the blithering fuck?

Standard New York Times blithering: never print anything directly derogatory about a Republican if they can help it.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:48:09am

re: #151 plansbandc

Maybe he tripped and fell into a field of racisms?

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plansbandc  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:49:08am

re: #153 Sufficient unto the day…

That’s it!!

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:54:20am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Huge Cake fan here…I would have loved to see that!

I knew they were good dudes. Good to see them supporting.

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:55:35am

re: #151 plansbandc

Racial Stumbles? What in the blithering fuck?

He often is seen stumbling around drunk on hate.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 3, 2018 • 7:56:10am

Morning Lizardim. Happy Deer-Season Day from the cold and overcast wild north country. We had a weather break this week that let some of the farmers get out and clear off the last of their crops, so now it’s time to batten down the hatches and prepare for winter. Sorry I haven’t been around as much; after getting back from Rome, work immediately started a deluge of disasters of Biblical proportions, leading up to my taking a sick day to try to recover from the stress reactions (and a touch of the flu). I hope all has been well in my absence. How go things among the lizardfolk who are not currently engaged in pursuing quadruped herbivores with ranged weapons for the purposes of sport and gathering meat?

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:05:04am

re: #157 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim.

How go things among the lizardfolk who are not currently engaged in pursuing quadruped herbivores with ranged weapons for the purposes of sport and gathering meat?

I think all Lizards are in a bit of a holding pattern waiting for Tuesday.

As far as weather…the sun is out! Haven’t seen it in days around Ohio. Rain, rain, and some more rain.

Luckily, most of the leaves are still on the trees and are now in fall colors. Might go out later this afternoon for country road drive and maybe take some colorful photos.

I leave the deer to themselves. Never have been a hunter.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:16:13am

re: #157 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If it’s brown, it’s down! Good luck on your jerky gathering. I hear gunshots all around me, it’s a good opening day!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:18:31am

re: #159 Shropshire Slasher

If it’s brown, it’s down! Good luck on your jerky gathering. I hear gunshots all around me, it’s a good opening day!

I was awakened by shotgun fire at around 0700 this morning and suddenly remembered what day it was. I have a lot of friends who hunt, so I hope they’re having a good day of it. It’s certainly a beautiful one; it’s not as frigidly cold as it could be.

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makeitstop  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:22:29am

Good morning. Glad to see they caught this asshole.

Police have made an arrest after disturbing messages of hate were found inside a Brooklyn synagogue Thursday evening, the latest in a string of anti-Semitic incidents across the nation.

26-year-old James Polite is charged with four counts of criminal mischief as a hate crime and making graffiti.

Polite has been sent to Woodhull Hospital for psychiatric observation, authorities say.

He is also charged with a string of arson fires in Williamsburg, including one at a yeshiva and another at a Jewish banquet hall.

Graffiti inside the Union Temple on Eastern Parkway in Prospect Heights read “Kill all Jews” and “Hitler,” along with some other horribly offensive language.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:26:47am

re: #158 ObserverArt

I think all Lizards are in a bit of a holding pattern waiting for Tuesday.

As far as weather…the sun is out! Haven’t seen it in days around Ohio. Rain, rain, and some more rain.

Luckily, most of the leaves are still on the trees and are now in fall colors. Might go out later this afternoon for country road drive and maybe take some colorful photos.

I leave the deer to themselves. Never have been a hunter,

Here at the headwaters of the Mighty Mississippi, we transitioned out of the rain a few days ago, but the water levels are still pretty high here. The leaves went pretty much straight from “green” to “on the ground” here, we didn’t get a lot of time with the beautiful fall colors this season. At some point I will need to go chop up the fallen leaves with the lawn mower and then prep the snowblower for this season’s operations.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:49:30am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Forget it Backwoods Sleuth, it’s the SCREW YORK TIMES!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:49:45am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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I really hope his bubble gets burst and he loses his shit come Tuesday night.

I also put money on him firing Rosenstein by January if the Dems win the House.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:50:56am

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I was awakened by shotgun fire at around 0700 this morning and suddenly remembered what day it was. I have a lot of friends who hunt, so I hope they’re having a good day of it. It’s certainly a beautiful one; it’s not as frigidly cold as it could be.

In honor of deer hunting season:
(1) Tom Lehrer:

Tom Lehrer - The Hunting Song - LIVE FILM From Copenhagen in 1967


(2) The Yoopers:

Da Yoopers- Second Week Of Deer Camp

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:51:26am

re: #161 makeitstop

Good morning. Glad to see they caught this asshole.

Glad they caught him but sigh when does this shit end.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 3, 2018 • 8:57:56am

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

He had BOBBY KNIGHT at his rally in Indiana? The guy really is fucking stupid, isn’t he? Knight may be a legendary basketball coach, but these days he’s a legend for all of the wrong reasons.

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sagehen  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:11:37am

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope his bubble gets burst and he loses his shit come Tuesday night.

I also put money on him firing Rosenstein by January Thursday if the Dems win the House.

ftfy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:16:31am

re: #157 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Morning Lizardim. Happy Deer-Season Day from the cold and overcast wild north country. We had a weather break this week that let some of the farmers get out and clear off the last of their crops, so now it’s time to batten down the hatches and prepare for winter. Sorry I haven’t been around as much; after getting back from Rome, work immediately started a deluge of disasters of Biblical proportions, leading up to my taking a sick day to try to recover from the stress reactions (and a touch of the flu). I hope all has been well in my absence. How go things among the lizardfolk who are not currently engaged in pursuing quadruped herbivores with ranged weapons for the purposes of sport and gathering meat?

Brings back memories of growing up in Western PA and doing the Annual Deer Hunt with Dad and his pals. We would go every year into the cold forest and spend the day following deer tracks. Dad would have me as the spotter and we’d set up a camp fire to eat C-Rations for lunch. Dad would take a couple shots and always miss the deer, curse a bit. Sun goes down and we get in the car to go home and it never failed, Dad got his deer by hitting it on the road. Tie the deer up, take it to the ranger station and the rangers would laugh at Dad saying “Hey, you did it again, Frank!”.

One year they actually had a pool to guess what time Dad would check in with “The Road Kill Roadster”. I had to suppress my laughter at the Ranger’s office because Dad would have smacked me silly.

If you want to know what growing up in Western PA was like in the 60s/70s, three movies to watch are The Deer Hunter, Reckless and All The Right Moves.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:19:09am

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope his bubble gets burst and he loses his shit come Tuesday night.

I also put money on him firing Rosenstein by January if the Dems win the House.

You’re being generous. I give Trump until next Thursday to fire Rosenstein if the Dems win big on Tuesday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:19:58am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

You’re being generous. I give Trump until next Thursday to fire Rosenstein if the Dems win big on Tuesday.

No doubt in my mind that the KKKebler Elf and Rosenstein will be fired Wednesday morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:30:21am

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

No doubt in my mind that the KKKebler Elf and Rosenstein will be fired Wednesday morning!

I could definitely see Trump lashing out and firing them both if there is indeed a Blue Wave on Tuesday. He’ll be pissed.

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:30:43am

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope his bubble gets burst and he loses his shit come Tuesday night.

I also put money on him firing Rosenstein by January if the Dems win the House.

Rachel Maddow was saying it appears Trump is setting up to boot Sessions right after the elections, so he can start a chain booting of Rosenstein and then allow the third in line guy to get in even though he should recuse himself.

There has been some info here already on how the Trump lawyers (McGahn) did some sneaky stuff to clear their hoped for savior.

Here is the video that explains it more.

Iframe

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:31:55am

re: #165 Eric The Fruit Bat

In honor of deer hunting season:
(1) Tom Lehrer:

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Hey Stranger!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:33:03am

re: #173 ObserverArt

So they’re going to pull the trigger on the Mueller investigation after all. That’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:33:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:38:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:40:48am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The gas chambers were the cumulation of what started in the beer halls of Bavaria in the 20’s.

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retired cynic  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:42:22am

re: #162 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Here at the headwaters of the Mighty Mississippi, we transitioned out of the rain a few days ago, but the water levels are still pretty high here. The leaves went pretty much straight from “green” to “on the ground” here, we didn’t get a lot of time with the beautiful fall colors this season. At some point I will need to go chop up the fallen leaves with the lawn mower and then prep the snowblower for this season’s operations.

Farther down the Mississippi drainage area, we had lovely colors with sunlight one day. Now they have fallen here, too. We went from summer temps to late fall weather in one day. Missed my favorite time of year altogether.

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retired cynic  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:42:32am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:43:28am

re: #180 retired cynic

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In which we see the collapse of the power of the bully pulpit. When the President is so full of shit that his appearances are no longer newsworthy.

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retired cynic  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:44:57am

re: #181 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They are newsworthy, alright. Just not the way they SHOULD be. Someone needs to keep track of what the devil is saying.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:46:03am

So Trump fires Sessions, fires Rosenstein, brings in his guy, has his guy fire Mueller.

And then what? We hit the street and hope Dems can get the investigation restarted in January?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:49:29am
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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:51:35am

re: #175 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So they’re going to pull the trigger on the Mueller investigation after all. That’s a bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see how it works out.

They appear to be pulling out all stops and cheating their way to do just that.

There is going to be a huge war with the Democrats and the public if they do it as Rachel thinks they will try.

And of course, the Trumpublicans will stand around and say stupid stuff to allow it.

This election is important and even if the Dems take the House there is still slimy Republican moves that will need fought off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:53:56am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:55:18am

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

I totally agree. Everyone should get out and vote.

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sagehen  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:55:33am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

So Trump fires Sessions, fires Rosenstein, brings in his guy, has his guy fire Mueller.

And then what? We hit the street and hope Dems can get the investigation restarted in January?

We hope (assume?) that Mueller has prepared for this possibility, that his work will not disappear into the ether.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:55:51am

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

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I rarely take offense, but this is insulting. No priest would say that the host is actually Christ’s body. It’s a matter of faith.

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retired cynic  Nov 3, 2018 • 9:59:26am

re: #173 ObserverArt

Rachel Maddow was saying it appears Trump is setting up to boot Sessions right after the elections, so he can start a chain booting of Rosenstein and then allow the third in line guy to get in even though he should recuse himself.

There has been some info here already on how the Trump lawyers (McGahn) did some sneaky stuff to clear their hoped for savior.

Here is the video that explains it more.

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“KEEP YOUR HEADLIGHTS ON!”

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:00:44am

re: #162 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Reminds me of my old factory managers. He grew up at the very tip of the Mississippi but the coldest winter of his life was 1942. He joined the navy and volunteered for submarine duty. The training base was on Lake Michigan and imagine 500 tons or so of steel submerged in ice water! His life was spared by the fickle finger of fate in 1943 when his sub rendezvoused with a tender and he was ordered to transfer to the boat on the other side. His original boat was never seen again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:01:13am

there’s always an old tweet:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:01:56am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

there’s always an old tweet:

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His entire presidency is one giant projection.

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:02:52am

re: #189 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I rarely take offense, but this is insulting. No priest would say that the host is actually Christ’s body. It’s a matter of faith.

It’s a bad joke not meant to be taken seriously.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:03:38am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think it took about ten years before the gas chambers were built

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:04:07am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

So Trump fires Sessions, fires Rosenstein, brings in his guy, has his guy fire Mueller.

And then what? We hit the street and hope Dems can get the investigation restarted in January?

What is going to stop the Dems from hiring Mueller?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:06:34am

re: #196 I Would Prefer Not To

I don’t think it works that way but I can imagine him testifying to Congress: So uh Mr. Meuller, uh, what did you find out?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:06:57am
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BigPapa  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:08:37am

On Sekulow’s radio show last night they were reviewing all the early voting stats, how it’s blowing away 2014 and in some cases reaching entire vote totals of 2014.

And feebly trying to suggest it’s due to ‘new’ Trump voters. Right.

This pleases me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:09:46am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:09:47am

re: #199 BigPapa

On Sekulow’s radio show last night they were reviewing all the early voting stats, how it’s blowing away 2014 and in some cases reaching entire vote totals of 2014.

And feebly trying to suggest it’s due to ‘new’ Trump voters. Right.

This pleases me.

If that’s what they want to believe, it’s going to make their disappointment all the more better on Tuesday.

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mmmirele  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:10:09am

Well, my twitter blew up overnight.

A subset of #metoo is the #churchtoo hashtag, started by Hannah Paasch and Emily Joy. Well, a bunch of white guys in power in Evangelicalism did this, inviting a bunch of women who support the white male evangelical power structure to talk about #metoo and #churchtoo at a conference.

And that’s right, they didn’t invite the two women who invented the hashtag, because those two women are Exvangelicals.

Then I tossed an off-the cuff remark which kind of exploded:

Which led to this guy commenting and then to Beth Moore (one of the women shilling for the men, sorry Beth, but you’re a complementarian, you’re not helping women) saying this:

Leading a friend of mine to tartly ask the original question:

I am amused, because the guy who started this, Ed Stetzer, has blocked me and Hannah and Emily Joy on Twitter and now his little conference is blowing up in his face. *smirk*

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:11:35am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I want to know why something with the CSA flag would be sold in a California state park anyhow. I swear. I can almost get someone from the South romanticizing the CSA but people like Steve King, my state’s own Corey Stewart, and others who are as much Yankee if not more Yankee than I am in their family history doing it stumps me.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:14:37am

re: #194 ObserverArt

I realize that but even a lot of Catholics don’t understand thaeir own religion, whether it Holy Communion or Reconciliation (confession) even marriage. I always found stuff like that to be a barrier to growth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:23:16am
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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:23:39am

re: #203 HappyWarrior

I want to know why something with the CSA flag would be sold in a California state park anyhow. I swear. I can almost get someone from the South romanticizing the CSA but people like Steve King, my state’s own Corey Stewart, and others who are as much Yankee if not more Yankee than I am in their family history doing it stumps me.

Because it doesn’t matter if they are Yankees or southerners. It is what the flag symbolizes that they are interested in.

Really it has become like the Nazi Swastika. Often you see racists groups using both.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:24:16am

re: #206 ObserverArt

Because it doesn’t matter if they are Yankees or southerners. It is what the flag symbolizes that they are interested in.

Really it has become like the Nazi Swastika. Often you see racists groups using both.

Yep.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:25:11am

Don’t f*ck with the Jedi Master.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:26:36am

re: #197 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I don’t think it works that way but I can imagine him testifying to Congress: So uh Mr. Meuller, uh, what did you find out?

Congress hires lawyers/investigators all the time. I think they can, but if anyone knows please speak up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:28:04am
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:29:15am

re: #209 I Would Prefer Not To

Good point. I was thinking of using him in his current capacity

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:30:14am

re: #204 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I realize that but even a lot of Catholics don’t understand thaeir own religion, whether it Holy Communion or Reconciliation (confession) even marriage. I always found stuff like that to be a barrier to growth

Well, I went to Catholic school and followed along until I went to college.

They have much bigger issues than a person making a bad joke about “the body of Christ”.

Truthfully, I can’t believe you even said that considering the huge pedophilia and sex abuse scandals in the church. Also keeping women out of the service and how they treat women’s issues like birth control has been a big problem.

And there are other issues. Talk about barriers to growth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:30:33am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:36:01am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another diversionary tactic. DT does it all the time.

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Jay C  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:36:02am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I didn’t realize Angus King was up this year: any polling on how he’s doing? I’m guessing the odds of Maine flipping Blue-to-Red are probably fairly low.

AND: “Fake Independent”? A quick glance at King’s Wiki bio shows he hasn’t claimed a partisan affiliation in 20+ years.
Also, too: “repopulate”??? WTF?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:39:21am

re: #212 ObserverArt

The church does indeed have big issues. However people are capable of handling more than one thing st a time

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:45:11am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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GFY Jr. Racist piece of dog shit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:45:49am

re: #215 Jay C

I didn’t realize Angus King was up this year: any polling on how he’s doing? I’m guessing the odds of Maine flipping Blue-to-Red are probably fairly low.

AND: “Fake Independent”? A quick glance at King’s Wiki bio shows he hasn’t claimed a partisan affiliation in 20+ years.
Also, too: “repopulate”??? WTF?

Just pulling the usual racist crap his dear old Dad does.

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:47:12am

re: #216 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

The church does indeed have big issues. However people are capable of handling more than one thing st a time

What the hell does that even mean???

Don’t bother answering. I give up.

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jaunte  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:57:21am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 10:59:25am

re: #12 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Hey, in good news, I voted straight Democratic ticket and if I wasn’t sure, voted for women. The polls were busy which was a shocker. Nevada has more registered Democrats than Republicans. From what I’ve read, both parties have been voting en force. I’m hoping that Democrats have decided to get off their butts and voted to get Heller out of the Senate. I must admit that I’ve been very impressed with the GOTV for Democrats. I’ve had countless people show up to my house encouraging me to vote. I’m hoping that is working on getting people to the polls.

Oh, and one of the ballot measures has to do with changing the Nevada Constitution to automatic voter registration and change of address whenever conducting business with the DMV. I don’t usually vote to change the constitution, but I like that one. It will have to be voted on again in two years, but crossing fingers that passes.

Canvassing works. My FiL, a Trump voter, read the material a canvasser brought him, and he’s going to vote for Amy McGrath for Congress. I’m canvassing Sunday and Monday for her.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:00:54am

re: #189 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I rarely take offense, but this is insulting. No priest would say that the host is actually Christ’s body. It’s a matter of faith.

Well, I can only go by what the Catholic Church itself says.

vatican.va (Catechism of the Catholic Church, from the Holy See)
usccb.org (US Conference of Catholic Bishops, Liturgy of the Eucharist, scroll down to the section Communion Rite)
vatican.va (Catechism of the Catholic Church on the nature of the Eucharist and its worship)

Some Lutheran and Anglican churches hold a different position (cosubstantiation) that the body and blood comingle with the bread and wine. Transubstantiation holds the bread and wine are wholly converted (the Catholic and Orthodox position), while other Protestant faiths hold it is a memorial.

To an atheist, it’s just bread and wine. Hence the joke.

I know too much about how to search Christian sources for their own beliefs. That said, perhaps in retrospect, I shouldn’t have posted the joke from Twitter.

You always have to be careful what you say for fear of offending someone. Since pretty much everyone here knows I am an atheist, I’ll take a break away from here.

The nation’s laws (for now) have no religious tests, but society sure does (I’m offended being one of the ways to shame people into being quiet.)

I guess I won’t pull out a priest, a rabbi, and a Baptist walk into a bar joke.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:02:50am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

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If youth turnout is bigger than polling models expect, that could deliver a big House majority and control of the Senate. Fingers crossed.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:04:33am

re: #223 Big Beautiful Door

If youth turnout is bigger than polling models expect, that could deliver a big House majority and control of the Senate. Fingers crossed.

Anyone care to wager that if that happens, the GOP’s next big talking point will be repealing the 26th Amendment?

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:05:38am

Everyone please check with your friends if they have voted even if you are pretty confident. I just asked a friend - who has a kid who uses the ACA and is worried about it - if she voted, and she said she lost her ballot. I told her how to vote anyway (in Colorado, go to a vote center).

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:06:28am

re: #25 bd(soros funded)

All those extra people can’t be showing up to vote for Ted Cruz, can they?

Ted Cruz won because he capitalized on how awful his opponents were (and they were), I am not seeing how he has cast Beto in that same light.

The Texas Senate polls have tightened. Texas is one of the seats which could deliver a Senate majority to the Democrats if they pull off the upset.

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:10:35am

re: #222 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can only go by what the Catholic Church itself says.

vatican.va (Catechism of the Catholic Church, from the Holy See)
usccb.org (US Conference of Catholic Bishops, Liturgy of the Eucharist, scroll down to the section Communion Rite)
vatican.va (Catechism of the Catholic Church on the nature of the Eucharist and its worship)

Some Lutheran and Anglican churches hold a different position (consubstantiation) that the body and blood comingle with the bread and wine. Transubstantiation holds the bread and wine are wholly converted (the Catholic and Orthodox position), while other Protestant faiths hold it is a memorial.

To an atheist, it’s just bread and wine. Hence the joke.

I know too much about how to search Christian sources for their own beliefs. That said, perhaps in retrospect, I shouldn’t have posted the joke from Twitter.

You always have to be careful what you say for fear of offending someone. Since pretty much everyone here knows I am an atheist, I’ll take a break away from here.

The nation’s laws (for now) have no religious tests, but society sure does (I’m offended being one of the ways to shame people into being quiet.)

I guess I won’t pull out a priest, a rabbi, and a Baptist walk into a bar joke.

You don’t need to take a break. It really is a non-issue. It was a bad joke nothing more and there really should be no reason anyone would be offended unless they just want to be. There is absolutely no intention in the joke to offend.

To take the “joke” seriously and be offended at it while there are huge elephants in the room is totally out of any sense of proportion. To say a bad joke hurts the church in light of the huge real issues that stymies their growth is ridiculous.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:11:18am

re: #226 Big Beautiful Door

I would be so fucking happy if Cruz went down.

Can you imagine the Trump shitstorm that would follow if the GOP lost both chambers?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:12:15am

re: #222 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I can only go by what the Catholic Church itself says.

vatican.va (Catechism of the Catholic Church, from the Holy See)
usccb.org (US Conference of Catholic Bishops, Liturgy of the Eucharist, scroll down to the section Communion Rite)
vatican.va (Catechism of the Catholic Church on the nature of the Eucharist and its worship)

Some Lutheran and Anglican churches hold a different position (consubstantiation) that the body and blood comingle with the bread and wine. Transubstantiation holds the bread and wine are wholly converted (the Catholic and Orthodox position), while other Protestant faiths hold it is a memorial.

To an atheist, it’s just bread and wine. Hence the joke.

I know too much about how to search Christian sources for their own beliefs. That said, perhaps in retrospect, I shouldn’t have posted the joke from Twitter.

You always have to be careful what you say for fear of offending someone. Since pretty much everyone here knows I am an atheist, I’ll take a break away from here.

The nation’s laws (for now) have no religious tests, but society sure does (I’m offended being one of the ways to shame people into being quiet.)

I guess I won’t pull out a priest, a rabbi, and a Baptist walk into a bar joke.

I didn’t want to get into a religious argument, so apropos of nothing, a random historical observation: Many, many thousands of people have been burned for denying the “real presence” of the actual, physical body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist.

Again, just a random observation….

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:16:15am

re: #56 bd(soros funded)

Trying to decide whether or not to take next Wednesday off?

I typically enjoy a cocktail or two on election night. l took the day after the last election off thinking I was going to be be hung over after partying, I had now idea the horror that awaited me!

I’ve got two job interviews Wednesday, one at 9:00 am, so I won’t be able to stay up all night!

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sagehen  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:19:55am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dangerman  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:21:17am

totally OT:

a pleasant and unsuspected statistic popped up in my running log today

i use a rolling 7 day window and a rolling 30 day window to track my running trends

the 7 day lookback window for each day of the last 2 weeks says i ran about 65 miles for the previous 7 days (i thought i was in the 50’s)

the 30 day windows say i ran 251 miles in the last 30.

(there is something wrong with me)

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ObserverArt  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:22:44am

re: #229 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I didn’t want to get into a religious argument, so apropos of nothing, a random historical observation: Many, many thousands of people have been burned for denying the “real presence” of the actual, physical body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist.

Again, just a random observation….

Is saying the Catholic Church has issues that really prevent it’s growth that have nothing to do with actual religion, like criminal activity protected by an organization really a religious discussion?

Part of the problem the Catholic Church has is it protects itself by hiding under “religion” while some in the organization take part in civil crimes.

When the Pennsylvanian Attorney General has a grand jury studying a pattern of abuse it is no longer religious.

I was not discussing religion. It really is more about politics and public laws.

And this blog talks about politics and religion all the time.

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Jay C  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:23:58am

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

I would be so fucking happy if Cruz went down.

Can you imagine the Trump shitstorm that would follow if the GOP lost both chambers?

We’re likely to be in for a shitstorm in any event even if the Dems only take one House: the Orange Anus’s notions of electoral probity are well-documented (remember in 2016 when he pronounced that the only “fair election” was one that he won? And it was dismissed as just another Trumpian “witticism”, though the chilling part is he probably actually believes that).

Despite the ton of temporizing that’s been done, the 2018 midterms are going to be taken as a referendum on Donald Trump and his Presidency. And given that said “President” is an incompetent, unstable sociopath; him having to “govern” with what he will most-likely denounce as a “Fake Congress” isn’t all that pleasant a prospect.

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:24:18am

re: #226 Big Beautiful Door

The Texas Senate polls have tightened. Texas is one of the seats which could deliver a Senate majority to the Democrats if they pull off the upset.

I just wish Beto’s numbers were going to the rest of the ticket. If everyone voting for Beto also voted for the rest of the Democratic ticket, we could get rid of Abbott, Dan Patrick, Ken Paxton, and Sid Miller easy as pie.

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:28:26am

re: #234 Jay C

We’re likely to be in for a shitstorm in any event even if the Dems only take one House: the Orange Anus’s notions of electoral probity are well-documented (remember in 2016 when he pronounced that the only “fair election” was one that he won? And it was dismissed as just another Trumpian “witticism”, though the chilling part is he probably actually believes that).

Despite the ton of temporizing that’s been done, the 2018 midterms are going to be taken as a referendum on Donald Trump and his Presidency. And given that said “President” is an incompetent, unstable sociopath; him having to “govern” with what he will most-likely denounce as a “Fake Congress” isn’t all that pleasant a prospect.

And I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Kemp and other Republican secretaries of state refuse to certify elections that Republicans don’t win, or just openly stuff the ballot boxes to push the GOP over the top.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:29:49am

re: #230 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve got two job interviews Wednesday, one at 9:00 am, so I won’t be able to stay up all night!

If the interviewers are Republicans you may be in for a long morning.

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Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:32:51am

I will say if Beto wins on Tuesday, then the GOP’s gonna drop a collective brick. Because if the winds in Texas have shifted that much, then the state may be closer to turning blue that anybody thought possible.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:34:12am

re: #228 Eclectic Cyborg

I would be so fucking happy if Cruz went down.

Can you imagine the Trump shitstorm that would follow if the GOP lost both chambers?

Millions of fake ballots cast by illegals! I am directing Sessions to investigate the voting fraud! Many Democrats will go to jail!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:34:57am

re: #238 Targetpractice

I will say if Beto wins on Tuesday, then the GOP’s gonna drop a collective brick. Because if the winds in Texas have shifted that much, then the state may be closer to turning blue that anybody thought possible.

They will maintain a positive spin on it and state that Democrat wins were less than expected, a fluke and the result of a lying press misleading the people, which it hates.

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Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:37:05am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will maintain a positive spin on it and state that Democrat wins were less than expected, a fluke and the result of a lying press misleading the people, which it hates.

Oh, I expect a metric shit-ton of excuse-making, most of it by the GOP but a lot also coming from pundits looking to maintain their BSAB credentials. My personal expectation is a lot of “This was purely local politics” to avoid saying aloud that the midterms were a referendum on Trump.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:38:01am

re: #239 Big Beautiful Door

Millions of fake ballots cast by illegals! I am directing Sessions to investigate the voting fraud! Many Democrats will go to jail!

Well after retroactively removing birthright citizenship will have voted illegally.
/s

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:38:22am

re: #241 Targetpractice

Oh, I expect a metric shit-ton of excuse-making, most of it by the GOP but a lot also coming from pundits looking to maintain their BSAB credentials. My personal expectation is a lot of “This was purely local politics” to avoid saying aloud that the midterms were a referendum on Trump.

And the result of a lot of Fake News on the part of the people-hating media.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:38:48am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will maintain a positive spin on it and state that Democrat wins were less than expected, a fluke and the result of a lying press misleading the people, which it hates.

While Trump rants about the millions of illegal ballots cast.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:39:32am

re: #238 Targetpractice

I will say if Beto wins on Tuesday, then the GOP’s gonna drop a collective brick. Because if the winds in Texas have shifted that much, then the state may be closer to turning blue that anybody thought possible.

It would be one thing if they’d both run good campaigns and Ted eked out a victory, but we’ve had one amazing campaign and one undeniably shitty and obtuse one and there’s a decent possibility the shitty and obtuse one is going to win.

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:41:00am

re: #238 Targetpractice

I will say if Beto wins on Tuesday, then the GOP’s gonna drop a collective brick. Because if the winds in Texas have shifted that much, then the state may be closer to turning blue that anybody thought possible.

If the governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and agriculture commissioner stay in office, then the state is still blood red. I hope some of them do get thrown out, because all four are noxious fuckgourds, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:41:39am

re: #246 can’t think of a decent username

Upding for Noxious Fuckgourds

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Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:42:42am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

It would be one thing if they’d both run good campaigns and Ted eked out a victory, but we’ve had one amazing campaign and one undeniably shitty and obtuse one and there’s a decent possibility the shitty and obtuse one is going to win.

Which would be another reason for the GOP to panic. Ted should be able to drop a deuce on stage and win with better than 60% of the vote in Texas. Yet he’s ahead by less than 5% in most of the polls. It means Texas is not the safe haven the GOP have come to rely upon.

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:43:10am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

Upding for Noxious Fuckgourds

Now I wish I’d worked harder on that. Even “obnoxious fuckgourds” has a better rhythm… :)

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Skip Intro  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:45:43am

re: #234 Jay C

Trump will spend every single day of the next two years attacking the Dem House with every lie Fox “News” can come up with. It’s going to be ugly, but everything involving Trump is really ugly. The question is how many in the media will join in the attacks.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:46:00am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hmm…88%. Interesting number.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:46:59am

re: #248 Targetpractice

Which would be another reason for the GOP to panic. Ted should be able to drop a deuce on stage and win with better than 60% of the vote in Texas. Yet he’s ahead by less than 5% in most of the polls. It means Texas is not the safe haven the GOP have come to rely upon.

You can bet that if Cruz loses, Texas is going to pass every vote suppression measure they think could possibly pass constitutional muster with SCOTUS that they haven’t already enacted.

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Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2018 • 11:48:47am

re: #252 Big Beautiful Door

You can bet that if Cruz loses, Texas is going to pass every vote suppression measure they think could possibly pass constitutional muster with SCOTUS that they haven’t already enacted.

Oh, I suspect the next two years are going to be spent by Republicans legislatures on all levels looking for new ways to throw as many votes out as possible before 2020.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:04:00pm

Please don’t get your hopes up about Texas. Just don’t. She will break your heart with kindness and stupidity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:05:14pm

re: #254 Dave In Austin

Please don’t get your hopes up about Texas. Just don’t. She will break your heart with kindness and stupidity.

We have to see it as a moral victory that Beto is giving Ted such a run for it in the first place.

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jaunte  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:06:40pm

re: #246 can’t think of a decent username

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Dave In Austin  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:09:03pm

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have to see it as a moral victory that Beto is giving Ted such a run for it in the first place.

Absolutely! I love that fact that @JulieforTX25 has forced a gerrymandered ol fool to have to go to media and actually spend money.

There will be chicanery at the box.

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Skip Intro  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:11:05pm

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Moral victories don’t keep the Senate from loading the courts with far RW hacks. Anything less than a win is a loss.

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can't think of a decent username  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:11:12pm

re: #256 jaunte

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Man, Dan Patrick. You can just smell the crazy on him. I think he dreams of being High Lord Inquisitor of the whole world. Bow ye low before God’s One True Prophet, Dan Patrick, lest ye be smote.

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BigPapa  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:12:08pm

Let’s spice things up.

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plansbandc  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:24:33pm

Arsenal got a draw with LIverpool today. I’m very pleased. Highly entertaining match!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:25:21pm

I also got my library card while I was there

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:26:27pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I will have one of those on Tuesday.

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retired cynic  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:29:41pm

I see Esquire is putting Charlie Pierce behind a paywall. Ugh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:30:04pm
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can't think of a decent username  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:30:36pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I also got my library card while I was there

Libraries are good. They scare Republicans almost as much as, well, all the other things Republicans are scared of.

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Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:32:11pm

On the one hand, I work graveyard the night before Election Day so I’ll be half-awake when I go to the polls.

On the other, the lines should be short that early in the morning.

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Skip Intro  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:39:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:41:08pm

re: #266 can’t think of a decent username

Libraries are good. They scare Republicans almost as much as, well, all the other things Republicans are scared of.

Yeah, they were being very proactive. had a young lady in the lobby area with card applications asking people coming to vote if they had a card, or wanted one.

Was pretty damn shocked to learn I can withdraw 50 books at a time

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:41:47pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:42:42pm

By the way, I haven’t taken the time enough yet to bitch about how corrupt the local GOP is here in my neck of the woods. I present one Scott Taylor, a man who could have won reelection without breaking a sweat, yet felt himself so vulnerable that he had campaign staff go out and collect signatures for a third party candidate to appear on the ballot. But not only did they collect signatures, they also submitted fake ones as well as ones from dead voters. And then, for the topper on this shit cake, he spent weeks insisting that he had no part in the whole mess and his staffers were acting on their own…then submitted campaign spending records showing he was still paying them after he fired them and was paying for their legal counsel out of campaign funds.

Oh, and I should also mention the independent candidate he worked to get on the ballot? Yeah, she’s currently on trial for defrauding the federal gov’t for a charity program.

And he’s still going to win Tuesday, despite a special prosecutor looking into his campaign.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:45:32pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I also got my library card while I was there

I put mine on the doorpost of my truck with a blue strip of electric tape underneath it

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retired cynic  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:46:02pm

The Ultimate Both-Sides THREAD edit

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BigPapa  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:46:07pm

I have no illusions that Zodiac will still likely win. But Beto did give a run for his money and is probably here to stay. The early voting numbers do not bode well for Trumpers. A lizard can dream. I’ll be voting for Mazie who us up 50 pts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 3, 2018 • 12:52:41pm

re: #268 Skip Intro

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Ouch but that sounds about right to me. I’ve never seen why Ryan as the great intellect he was made out to be. Granted I’m biased but this is a guy who was using Ayn Rand as required reading for his staff.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:08:44pm

So, not a “domestic dispute”, but more “domestic terrorism” instead

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dangerman  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:45:50pm

re: #244 Big Beautiful Door

While Trump rants about the millions of illegal ballots cast.

“ok, point to one. just one”

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dangerman  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:48:26pm

re: #248 Targetpractice

Which would be another reason for the GOP to panic. Ted should be able to drop a deuce on stage and win with better than 60% of the vote in Texas. Yet he’s ahead by less than 5% in most of the polls. It means Texas is not the safe haven the GOP have come to rely upon.

the entire thing bolded because, absolutely.

as to the last sentence, it also means that even for texas, cruz sux as a senator

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dangerman  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:50:15pm

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have to see it as a moral victory that Beto is giving Ted such a run for it in the first place.

this exactly.

this is laying the groundwork for the longer game

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dangerman  Nov 3, 2018 • 1:51:49pm

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I also got my library card while I was there

florida mail ins dont get one ;-(


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