John Oliver on Donald Trump’s Inhuman, Blatantly Racist Family Separation Policy [VIDEO]

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John Oliver’s latest is a scathing indictment of Trump’s vile family separation policy. Vote Democratic and help stop this insanity.

John Oliver discusses the disturbing policy that separated migrant families detained at our southern border, and the disturbingly real chance that it could happen again.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:25:04am

That poor little boy and his mother at the end is heartbreaking.

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Mattand  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:33:02am

This subject is why I fucking hate the “Just vote” memes that are going around.

i know I’m splitting hairs, but “Just vote”, translates to me as “It’s doesn’t matter who you vote for, just get out and do it.”

That’s not the problem. The problem is getting people to recognize that the party in power, the Republicans, are responsible for shit like making child abduction US policy.

Fuck “Just vote”. It should be “Vote Democratic”, because the last time I checked, most Democrats are against things like kidnapping children.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:33:38am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:34:22am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:35:24am

This is so infuriating.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:36:45am
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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:38:15am

I found this on YouTube in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

Mid 70’s perm job Boss jamming with Max Weinberg and aka Silvio Dante in a bedroom somewhere in Jersey

Save My Love (Holmdel, NJ 76) (Thrill Hill Vault 1976 - 1978 - Stereo Version)


The chicks really dug perm job Bruce if this video is any indication.

Bruce Springsteen - Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:39:00am
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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:39:03am

re: #2 Mattand

This subject is why I fucking hate the “Just vote” memes that are going around.

i know I’m splitting hairs, but “Just vote”, translates to me as “It’s doesn’t matter who you vote for, just get out and do it.”

That’s not the problem. The problem is getting people to recognize that the party in power, the Republicans, are responsible for shit like making child abduction US policy.

Fuck “Just vote”. It should be “Vote Democratic”, because the last time I checked, most Democrats are against things like kidnapping children.

Have you seen Bloomberg’s ad that basically does just that. I saw it this morning on local NBC TV.

Higher Purpose – a message from Mike Bloomberg

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:40:46am

re: #2 Mattand

This subject is why I fucking hate the “Just vote” memes that are going around.

i know I’m splitting hairs, but “Just vote”, translates to me as “It’s doesn’t matter who you vote for, just get out and do it.”

That’s not the problem. The problem is getting people to recognize that the party in power, the Republicans, are responsible for shit like making child abduction US policy.

Fuck “Just vote”. It should be “Vote Democratic”, because the last time I checked, most Democrats are against things like kidnapping children.

i posted this the other day wrt why young people say they arent voting
the sentiment still applies more generally, though i wont edit the language:

- id rather lose my health insurance than google “stamps.com
- id rather lose access to abortion than take the time to register to vote and check my status periodically
- im ok with the government separating kids from their parents, putting them in “cages” because learning about candidates takes time
- id rather the two parties continue to do things that dont represent me and my ideals. why should i get involved to try and tell them how i feel?

yes, being a citizen takes some time.
staying informed takes a little planning and time. (tv ads and mailers are the worst place to get accurate information no matter who they’re from).

actual voting does take a little time - less if you can mail it in (oh that stamp thing again)

yeah. people actually said these things and i dont think these are the real reasons.
if you can manager twitter, facebook, snapchat, instagram and 3 other apps simultaneously for 8 or more hours a day, you can google “where do i get stamps” or “what’s a postmark” early enough in the process.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:41:17am
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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:42:19am

re: #8 jaunte

That is Nunes district.. figures

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:48:43am

Loved Oliver’s passion on this issue. He’s so right. I’m just so fucking angry and sick thinking about all this.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:51:18am
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Interesting Times  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:53:19am

re: #14 jaunte

Especially loathsome when you consider it was trump supporters who photoshopped his adopted Ethiopian daughter in a gas chamber. He’s really no better than Ben Shapiro at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:53:43am

re: #14 jaunte

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You shouldn’t be lecturing anyone, asshole. Your publication has failed the character test from its origins as a Jim Crow apologizing and McCarthy supporting rag when Buckley started in the 50’s.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:54:35am

re: #15 Interesting Times

Especially loathsome when you consider it was trump supporters who photoshopped his adopted Ethiopian daughter in a gas chamber. He’s really no better than Ben Shapiro at this point.

Because he doesn’t give a fuck. All he cares about is the conservative brand above all else. He doesn’t care that the followers of the movement he helps foster don’t view his adoptive daughter as an American let alone a human being deserving of respect.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:54:54am

David French’s last ditch attempt to keep suburban Republican women from escaping.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:56:06am

re: #18 jaunte

David French’s last ditch attempt to keep suburban Republican women from escaping.

David French treats his own wife like an Islamist extremist cleric treats his wife so no surprise there. He’s an as big asshole as Trump.

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Interesting Times  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:56:52am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

At least Rick Wilson (while he hasn’t gone as far as Tom Nichols or Max Boot) is being a little more morally consistent:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:59:37am

re: #20 Interesting Times

At least Rick Wilson (while he hasn’t gone as far as Tom Nichols or Max Boot) is being a little more morally consistent:

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I have more respect for Wilson than I do that pig French because Wilson doesn’t act like Trump is the only problem and then try to both side it like French does. French may have served this country in uniform but he’s still a patronizing, sexist dipshit who writes for a racist shitrag whose founder was a huge racist snobbish asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:59:51am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:00:09pm

re: #10 dangerman

Don’t know about other states but in California you don’t even need a stamp to mail in a ballot. I did this last week.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:01:44pm

re: #20 Interesting Times

The hell with Tom Nichols.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:02:08pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Don’t know about other states but in California you don’t even need a stamp to mail in a ballot. I did this last week.

Same in Florida

I don’t know what they are referring gto unless it’s mailing in a registration?

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Interesting Times  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:03:32pm

re: #24 Scottish Dragon

The hell with Tom Nichols.

He did recommend voting for Democrats, so by that grade-on-curve metric, he’s way ahead of other so-called “never-trumpers” -_-

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:03:42pm

re: #8 jaunte

LA County registrar’s website is giving an error when you try to look up polling locations (at least it did for me). Secretary of State’s website still working though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:04:11pm

re: #24 Scottish Dragon

The hell with Tom Nichols.

On the plus side for Nichols, he’s been completely consistent in his calls to vote against every Republican candidate, at every level.

And he’s right - people should keep their damn shoes on when flying.

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gwangung  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:04:16pm

re: #25 dangerman

Same in Florida

I don’t know what they are referring gto unless it’s mailing in a registration?

Those folks are so out of touch that they don’t know that you often don’t need a stamp.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:04:36pm

re: #18 jaunte

David French’s last ditch attempt to keep suburban Republican women from escaping.

The Kavanaugh episode drove him around the bend.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:04:59pm

re: #30 Sir John Barron

The Kavanaugh episode drove him around the bend.

That makes sense. Sexist dipshits stick together.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:06:10pm

re: #27 KGxvi

LA County registrar’s website is giving an error when you try to look up polling locations (at least it did for me). Secretary of State’s website still working though.

How about just looking on the back of the sample ballot? It usually has the precinct and the polling location for that precinct.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:06:22pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

Chicken!
((ducks))

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:07:22pm

re: #30 Sir John Barron

I can’t trust the judgement of anyone who thought Kavanaugh’s over-the-top, tearful, scowling performance was either a legitimate human reaction or SCOTUS-worthy.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:08:52pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Interesting analysis on the point that the Vice President has to agree to invoking Section 4. The language is a bit ambiguous on whether a majority of the Cabinet can invoke it without the VP’s consent.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:09:16pm

re: #25 dangerman

Same in Florida

I don’t know what they are referring gto unless it’s mailing in a registration?

We needed a stamp in Washington up until the primary this year. When Oregon started mail-in voting, their ballots were postpaid, but the Republicans sued, calling it “buying votes”. WA didn’t want to repeat their experience. I don’t know what suddenly changed.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:09:53pm

re: #32 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

How about just looking on the back of the sample ballot? It usually has the precinct and the polling location for that precinct.

I was just doubling checking since the post above mentioned polling places being moved without notice. But yeah, sample ballot location and secretary of state showing same location.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:10:32pm

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We needed a stamp in Washington up until the primary this year. When Oregon started mail-in voting, their ballots were postpaid, but the Republicans sued, calling it “buying votes”. WA didn’t want to repeat their experience. I don’t know what suddenly changed.

Exercising a Constitutional right = “buying votes”

really tells us how the GOP stands on voter participation

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:10:57pm

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We needed a stamp in Washington up until the primary this year. When Oregon started mail-in voting, their ballots were postpaid, but the Republicans sued, calling it “buying votes”. WA didn’t want to repeat their experience. I don’t know what suddenly changed.

Somebody probably pointed out that requiring a stamp could be construed as a poll tax

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:11:20pm

re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exercising a Constitutional right = “buying votes”

really tells us how the GOP stands on voter participation

I have a memory of them opposing opening a precinct on my campus too. They don’t want high turnout because high turnouts are bad for Republicans.

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Interesting Times  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:14:54pm

Oh look:

(and as I recall, Dubya didn’t go any lower than this until the economy tanked. So when that happens thanks to GOPer borrow/spend/tax cuts for rich/tariffs, we might finally see sub-35% for Cheeto Benito).

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:15:17pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

I have a memory of them opposing opening a precinct on my campus too. They don’t want high turnout because high turnouts are bad for Republicans.

I’m still not sure that the logic really follows that high turn out is bad for Republicans. I mentioned the other day, going back to ‘68, there doesn’t seem to be much correlation between turn out and the outcome of presidential elections.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:16:27pm

re: #42 KGxvi

I’m still not sure that the logic really follows that high turn out is bad for Republicans. I mentioned the other day, going back to ‘68, there doesn’t seem to be much correlation between turn out and the outcome of presidential elections.

Hmmm. I dunno. It just seems to me that higher turnouts usually favor the Dems in my observations.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:17:46pm

A friend from High School posted a meme on FB saying “I’ll still be your friend however you voted”. My response:

It’s a noble sentiment, and one I would have largely shared until 2016. But it’s no longer a Center-Right party against a Center-Left party, is it? It’s not a contest between two largely similar visions of America. It’s a contest between a vision that defines “America” as an ideal, where all who follow that ideal are welcome, and one that defines “America” as a white, Christian nation that works to exclude the nonwhite and nonChristian, that pursues whatever means it can get away with to disenfranchise the nonwhite nonChristian, and which turns its back on its fellow democracies in favor of dictatorships.

You vote for the latter vision, I’m not sure I CAN be your friend.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:18:00pm

re: #39 KGxvi

Somebody probably pointed out that requiring a stamp could be construed as a poll tax

Of course it’s a poll tax. So is having to drive or take a bus or whatever to a polling place, possibly taking time off work, too.

Of course, the biggest poll tax is being able to at least afford rent so you have a mailing address to register from. The Native Americans in North Dakota are an example everybody’s familiar with, but there are millions of people who are either homeless or not exactly homeless, but moving from couch to couch.

Then there’s the poll tax of having to get a driver’s license or ID card (or passport!)….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:18:44pm

re: #44 Blind Frog Belly White

A friend from High School posted a meme on FB saying “I’ll still be your friend however you voted”. My response:

Indeed this.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:19:32pm

re: #41 Interesting Times

Oh look:

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(and as I recall, Dubya didn’t go any lower than this until the economy tanked. So when that happens thanks to GOPer borrow/spend/tax cuts for rich/tariffs, we might finally see sub-35% for Cheeto Benito).

Bush dropped under 40% in 2006, low of 31% in May, rebounded to the mid-40s or so in the summer, dropped to 33% at the mid-terms. Never got back above 40% after that, and dropped below 30% a couple of times in 2008 when the economy started going bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:19:56pm

re: #33 Kilroy was here

Chicken!
((ducks))

(goose)

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:23:48pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Hmmm. I dunno. It just seems to me that higher turnouts usually favor the Dems in my observations.

I posted the turnout numbers and popular vote percentages the other day

It’s just presidential years, but the numbers are sort of all over the place.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:24:56pm

re: #42 KGxvi

I’m still not sure that the logic really follows that high turn out is bad for Republicans. I mentioned the other day, going back to ‘68, there doesn’t seem to be much correlation between turn out and the outcome of presidential elections.

its not only or so much just the high turnout
its that they target who they think are dem leaning votes for disfranchisement

if people were easily registered, were allowed to stay registered, and voted, i think there would be a marked dem lean

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:25:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:25:58pm

re: #49 KGxvi

I posted the turnout numbers and popular vote percentages the other day

It’s just presidential years, but the numbers are sort of all over the place.

Thanks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:26:20pm

re: #42 KGxvi

I’m still not sure that the logic really follows that high turn out is bad for Republicans. I mentioned the other day, going back to ‘68, there doesn’t seem to be much correlation between turn out and the outcome of presidential elections.

Generally it’s in Dem’s favor because Republicans are more likely to show up for midterm elections, so a low turnout electorate is more Republican than the population generally. And the people who DON’T vote in midterms tend to be more Democratic than the population generally. So if turnout is high, it tends to favor Democrats.

Not always, but generally. We Dems tend to be too easily demotivated by things not being perfect, hence low turnout in 2010 and 2014. I guess we’ll find out if white hot fucking rage is a big enough motivator this year…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:28:44pm

re: #51 Kragar

Endorsed.

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Nyet  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:28:47pm
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Nyet  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:30:17pm
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Nyet  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:31:09pm
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Jay C  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:31:55pm

re: #36 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We needed a stamp in Washington up until the primary this year. When Oregon started mail-in voting, their ballots were postpaid, but the Republicans sued, calling it “buying votes”. WA didn’t want to repeat their experience. I don’t know what suddenly changed.

This is a particularly stupid argument, even considering it’s coming from Republicans. Why would the State paying postage be “buying votes”? The envelopes can contain GOP votes as well as Dem ones.

I wish my State (NY) would postpay mail (“absentee”) ballots: the ones here are in oversize, overweight envelopes that need the extra “ounce” postage (I don’t even recall what that is, I just stick two “Forevers” on it).

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:32:55pm

re: #53 Blind Frog Belly White

Generally it’s in Dem’s favor because Republicans are more likely to show up for midterm elections, so a low turnout electorate is more Republican than the population generally. And the people who DON’T vote in midterms tend to be more Democratic than the population generally. So if turnout is high, it tends to favor Democrats.

Not always, but generally. We Dems tend to be too easily demotivated by things not being perfect, hence low turnout in 2010 and 2014. I guess we’ll find out if white hot fucking rage is a big enough motivator this year…

Yeah, I know there’s that trend in mid-terms, and I haven’t looked at it yet. But mid-terms are also screwed up by gerrymandering in a way that presidential elections aren’t necessarily screwy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:33:38pm

Finished canvsssing today. Ky-6 will be one of the earliest districts reporting with polls closing at 6 pm ET. Its a tight race, so I don’t expect them to be able to call it early, but if they can call it for Amy, that would indicate its going to be a very good night for Democrats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:33:52pm

re: #59 KGxvi

Yeah, I know there’s that trend in mid-terms, and I haven’t looked at it yet. But mid-terms are also screwed up by gerrymandering in a way that presidential elections aren’t necessarily screwy.

Well, except for that whole ‘Electoral College’ thing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:34:25pm

re: #58 Jay C

This is a particularly stupid argument, even considering it’s coming from Republicans. Why would the State paying postage be “buying votes”? The envelopes can contain GOP votes as well as Dem ones.

I wish my State (NY) would postpay mail (“absentee”) ballots: the ones here are in oversize, overweight envelopes that need the extra “ounce” postage (I don’t even recall what that is, I just stick two “Forevers” on it).

Where did I read that somewhere they were using “excess postage” as a reason to throw out ballots?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:34:35pm

I expect much in the way of Shenanigans tomorrow.

We shall see.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:37:17pm

re: #34 jaunte

I can’t trust the judgement of anyone who thought Kavanaugh’s over-the-top, tearful, scowling performance was either a legitimate human reaction or SCOTUS-worthy.

Well, his judgment was tainted long before that. Given the rules that he established for his wife while he was deployed, he’s definitely a misogynistic piece of shit with a high likelihood of being emotionally abusive at least.

The fact that he can, with a straight face, argue that the Democratic party has failed morally is fucking stunning.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:37:27pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:38:39pm

re: #37 KGxvi

I was just doubling checking since the post above mentioned polling places being moved without notice. But yeah, sample ballot location and secretary of state showing same location.

I’m wondering if the person who tweeted that looked at the back, noticed the polling place was different, and had an unnecessary freak out.

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:39:01pm
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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:39:52pm

a comment on maintaining your sanity and mental health tomorrow:
(about the election night coverage, not the results)

dont buy into election day news coverage being all that important
especially television coverage

i mean, watch if you want, if you can tolerate it, and keep it in perspective.

- sure, there will be the usual stories about confusion, suppression, intimidation etc
- counts may take time and there’s a good chance of some runoffs
- not all races will be decided tomorrow

most important is that tomorrow’s ‘horse race’ coverage is entirely random and a function of *timing only*

what precincts report when.
who’s had trouble with their machinery or tabulating the totals.
other glitches that cause delays

sure they can predict and prognosticate and even turn out to be right in, oh my, just a couple hours before all the numbers are in and final results are known

it’s kind of meaningless hour by hour, minute by minute
it’s not done, and it doesn’t matter until they are (mostly) all reported and counted

so on this thing, relax.

wednesday morning we’ll know things, though not all things

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:40:15pm

re: #51 Kragar

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From Balloon Juice:

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:42:09pm

re: #68 dangerman

a comment on maintaining your sanity and mental health tomorrow:
(about the election night coverage, not the results)

dont buy into election day news coverage being all that important
especially television coverage

i mean, watch if you want, if you can tolerate it, and keep it in perspective.

- sure, there will be the usual stories about confusion, suppression, intimidation etc
- counts may take time and there’s a good chance of some runoffs
- not all races will be decided tomorrow

most important is that tomorrow’s ‘horse race’ coverage is entirely random and a function of *timing only*

what precincts report when.
who’s had trouble with their machinery or tabulating the totals.
other glitches that cause delays

sure they can predict and prognosticate and even turn out to be right in, oh my, just a couple hours before all the numbers are in and final results are known

it’s kind of meaningless hour by hour, minute by minute
it’s not done, and it doesn’t matter until they are (mostly) all reported and counted

so on this thing, relax.

wednesday morning we’ll know things, though not all things

My kids don’t have school, so I have some errands to run, we are going to go see Bohemian Rhapsody, eat, I’m going to get my work done, and maybe, just maybe, I might tune in tomorrow night.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:42:11pm

re: #55 Nyet

And that’s why you don’t do debate shows with the alt-right/neo-Nazis.

For them there’s nowhere to go but up. And they will Gish-gallop up the mountain with you as the springboard.

exactly

a seat at the table legitimizes crackpots

do not legitimize crackpots

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:46:53pm

re: #65 lawhawk

citing a person familiar with the matter.

i’d guess only one person knows whether this is true or not

- bezos

and he’s not talking

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:47:14pm
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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:47:21pm

See, now y’all got me wanting to look up mid-term numbers, but it’s rather difficult to find turn out numbers for mid-term elections. What I could find shows that 2006 (Dems won popular vote 52-44) and 2010 (Republicans won popular vote 52-45) were fairly close on turnout (likely a percentage point or two).

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:48:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:50:17pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

JFC. I really hate this asshole.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:50:21pm

re: #73 Kragar

Daniel Dale
Trump: “I’ve actually kept more promises than I’ve made. When did you ever hear that from a politician? Maybe never. Never. It’s true.”

Kragar
How does that even work?

YouTube

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:51:25pm
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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:51:34pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

JFC. I really hate this asshole.

im trying to perfect the art of totally tuning him out

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:52:05pm

Apparently voice texts are the new thing, and yeah, I’m just going to say:

Nope. Not sending or listening to voice texts. Unacceptable.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:54:42pm

re: #75 Charles Johnson

He’s basically a six year old…

AM NOT! YOU ARE! FUCK ME? NO FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE11!

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:54:50pm

re: #80 KGxvi

Apparently voice texts are the new thing, and yeah, I’m just going to say:

Nope. Not sending or listening to voice texts. Unacceptable.

once or twice while driving i was texting in real time back and forth with my niece
i used the google voice to speak the texts….

then i realized there used to be a thing called a ‘phone call’

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:57:52pm

re: #82 dangerman

once or twice while driving i was texting in real time back and forth with my niece
i used the google voice to speak the texts….

then i realized there used to be a thing called a ‘phone call’

The iPhone lets you send short voice messages via text, slightly different than text message dictation.

Also, who uses their phone to make phone calls?

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sagehen  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:58:23pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Maybe this dog isn’t like my brother’s dog. Maybe the chickens are perfectly safe. But I wouldn’t give good odds on that.

I used to have a neighbor with chickens. Brother’s dog put an end to that. Another neighbor had a goat. Brother’s dog ended that situation as well. Don’t lock your dog in a cage with things that can be dog food.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 12:59:56pm

re: #82 dangerman

once or twice while driving i was texting in real time back and forth with my niece
i used the google voice to speak the texts….

then i realized there used to be a thing called a ‘phone call’

It’s like: “I don’t need a watch—I’ve got my phone.” Congratulations—you’ve reinvented the pocket watch, only this time without a fob so you have to fish around for it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:05:07pm

re: #85 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s like: “I don’t need a watch—I’ve got my phone.” Congratulations—you’ve reinvented the pocket watch, only this time without a fob so you have to fish around for it.

I said that exact thing to my grand-nephew, who had opined that his generation didn’t wear wrist watches because ‘I have this thing in my pocket that tells me the time’.

I think I simply pulled out the pocket watch I was carrying at that point. I also mentioned that people STARTED wearing wrist watches 100 years ago, so they didn’t have to bother pulling anything out of their pockets to find out what time it was.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:05:34pm

I broke my policy of not engaging with fuckwits, let’s see how it plays out.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:06:24pm

re: #82 dangerman

once or twice while driving i was texting in real time back and forth with my niece
i used the google voice to speak the texts….

then i realized there used to be a thing called a ‘phone call’

Was she using it on the other end as well?

That does open up an interesting thing, though, voice on one end, text on the other.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:06:41pm

re: #83 KGxvi

The iPhone lets you send short voice messages via text, slightly different than text message dictation.

Also, who uses their phone to make phone calls?

yup. every day

texting a voice message is making a phone call, hope they dont pick up, and then not have to listen to the instructions we all know by now

what is happening to us?

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:07:10pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

I said that exact thing to my grand-nephew, who had opined that his generation didn’t wear wrist watches because ‘I have this thing in my pocket that tells me the time’.

I think I simply pulled out the pocket watch I was carrying at that point. I also mentioned that people STARTED wearing wrist watches 100 years ago, so they didn’t have to bother pulling anything out of their pockets to find out what time it was.

The weather app on the pocket watch was pretty limited, I bet.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:07:23pm
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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:08:24pm

re: #88 Belafon

Was she using it on the other end as well?

That does open up an interesting thing, though, voice on one end, text on the other.

Communicating more than before. Prior to texting and voice-to-text, I would have just avoided talking to people.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:09:33pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

I said that exact thing to my grand-nephew, who had opined that his generation didn’t wear wrist watches because ‘I have this thing in my pocket that tells me the time’.

I think I simply pulled out the pocket watch I was carrying at that point. I also mentioned that people STARTED wearing wrist watches 100 years ago, so they didn’t have to bother pulling anything out of their pockets to find out what time it was.

yeah but you can only put one photograph (what’s that) in the cover of the pocket watch.
i can carry hundreds of pictures of mrs dm (and i never look at any of them)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:10:58pm

re: #90 Belafon

The weather app on the pocket watch was pretty limited, I bet.

That’s why you needed a ‘weather-wise ache’.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:11:56pm

re: #88 Belafon

Was she using it on the other end as well?

That does open up an interesting thing, though, voice on one end, text on the other.

yes she was typing. admonished me for texting while driving.
then i smugly said it was all hands free

still, we coulda just talked

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Sir John Barron  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:11:57pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

I broke my policy of not engaging with fuckwits, let’s see how it plays out.

“The only racist thing about my ad is you people calling it racist.”

/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:12:14pm

re: #93 dangerman

yeah but you can only put one photograph (what’s that) in the cover of the pocket watch.
i can carry hundreds of pictures of mrs dm (and i never look at any of them)

The music function is also really limited. You only get a metronome at hummingbird speed.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:13:58pm

re: #94 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s why you needed a ‘weather-wise ache’.

i had a weather string

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Jay C  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:14:34pm

re: #90 Belafon

The weather app on the pocket watch was pretty limited, I bet.

Yep. You had to flip open the lid and hold it up flat. If it filled with water, it was raining. If the water blew out, it was windy as well.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:15:30pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

I said that exact thing to my grand-nephew, who had opined that his generation didn’t wear wrist watches because ‘I have this thing in my pocket that tells me the time’.

I think I simply pulled out the pocket watch I was carrying at that point. I also mentioned that people STARTED wearing wrist watches 100 years ago, so they didn’t have to bother pulling anything out of their pockets to find out what time it was.

Tell him that pocket watches can’t be hacked & won’t snitch you out or broadcast your location to the murder robots.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:16:25pm

re: #96 Sir John Barron

“The only racist thing about my ad is you people calling it racist.”

/

ok, its not racist but racists believe it’s racist

(ht - gillum -we’re gonna get a lot of mileage out of this one)

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:17:39pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Tell him that pocket watches can’t be hacked & won’t snitch you out or broadcast your location to the murder robots.

but twice a year you have to remember to adjust the time and that’s so hard

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:18:28pm

Has the GOP announced that Starbucks launched their annual war on Christmas with the release of the new seasonal cups?

Oh, this year the big news is that they’re giving away free reusuable red cups, but they didn’t anticipate demand (or maybe they did) - and they’ve run out in various locations.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:19:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:19:41pm

Every time I seriously think about getting a real smart phone I consider how goddamned much it costs to buy something with a tiny screen and a shitty user interface that is absolutely going to be obsolete in five years.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:20:04pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

WeRateDogsTM ✔
@dog_rates
This is Hendrie. He’s not the best at making new frens. Most social interactions scare him. 12/10 would like to be rescued now please

1:10 PM - Nov 5, 2018

Saw this reply to Hendrie’s plight in the ol’ chicken coup.

- - -

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:20:09pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White

I said that exact thing to my grand-nephew, who had opined that his generation didn’t wear wrist watches because ‘I have this thing in my pocket that tells me the time’.

I think I simply pulled out the pocket watch I was carrying at that point. I also mentioned that people STARTED wearing wrist watches 100 years ago, so they didn’t have to bother pulling anything out of their pockets to find out what time it was.

I freak my kids out all the time by just knowing the time. As long as I can calibrate in the morning, I can usually tell you the time within about 5 minutes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:22:16pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

Tell him that pocket watches can’t be hacked & won’t snitch you out or broadcast your location to the murder robots.

I dunno. You should hear how loud some of my big 18 size ones are.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:24:10pm

Everything around you displays the time nowadays. Right now in front of me is the time displayed on both of my iPads, my kitchen radio, the microwave, and the oven + my iPhone.

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:25:17pm

re: #109 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Everything around you displays the time nowadays. Right now in front of me is the time displayed on both of my iPads, my kitchen radio, the microwave, and the oven + my iPhone.

A man with a watch knows the time. A man with two watches never really does.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:27:19pm

re: #102 dangerman

but twice a year you have to remember to adjust the time and that’s so hard

Yeah. I spent 10 minutes yesterday, resetting the 7 railroad pocket watches I keep wound up and running all the time.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:28:19pm

re: #107 Kragar

I freak my kids out all the time by just knowing the time. As long as I can calibrate in the morning, I can usually tell you the time within about 5 minutes.

heck, i can do it faster than that

(ducks)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:29:14pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Note: This was on Saturday, after they’d all run for a couple weeks without resetting, after originally being set to +/- 30 seconds from NIST. (They don’t hack, so I can’t set the seconds)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:31:27pm

I have a cool wall clock from the National Geographic catalog that syncs its time with the GPS satellite system.

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Jay C  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:32:10pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. I spent 10 minutes yesterday, resetting the 7 railroad pocket watches I keep wound up and running all the time.

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And weren’t “railroad watches” designed to be more-accurate-than-usual for the time, ‘cuz even a minute or two difference might make for an unfortunate incident?

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:35:38pm

Randy does it again.

Fun fact: Randy used to design and sell shoes! A friend of my wife’s bought a pair of purple slippers for her daughter. She said he was extremely helpful and the final product was even better than she anticipated.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:37:52pm

re: #115 Jay C

And weren’t “railroad watches” designed to be more-accurate-than-usual for the time, ‘cuz even a minute or two difference might make for an unfortunate incident?

Exactly.

Trains ran on the same track at different speeds in the same direction, or in opposite directions. “Train Orders” told the crews when and where they had to pull off into a siding to allow another train to pass.

Railroad watches, aka ‘standard watches’ had to run within 30 seconds/2 weeks. Each railroad had its own rules, though they largely overlapped, and a list of models they’d accept. Railroaders had to present their watch every week to an Inspector, who’d note the deviation from his standard clock, and they’d have to have them serviced on a regular basis by the same inspectors. And they were expressly forbidden from setting the time themselves!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:39:45pm

Apparently the NatGeo catalog no longer carries this clock. Too bad, it also has a groovy map on its face.

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sagehen  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:40:56pm

re: #102 dangerman

but twice a year you have to remember to adjust the time and that’s so hard

no you don’t; my computer and my TV change to and from DST without my intervention.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:42:03pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Apparently the NatGeo catalog no longer carries this clock. Too bad, it also has a groovy map on its face.

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Those countries are the same, a clock showing the other side of the world would be dated pretty quickly.

It’s cool.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:42:43pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

Railroad watches were big business for watch companies, and the movement grades that were approved for railroad service had to be up to Chronometer standards. Turning out MILLIONS of highly accurate mechanical watches that were still within financial reach of working men* was an amazing feat, made possible only because the American watch industry was founded on the basis of mechanization.

*The railroaders who were require to carry standard watches were well paid for the time, but still were hourly workers.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:44:14pm

A wild wingnut has appeared!

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:44:58pm

re: #90 Belafon

The weather app on the pocket watch was pretty limited, I bet.

I assume it worked like this:

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Jay C  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:46:01pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

Exactly.

Trains ran on the same track at different speeds in the same direction, or in opposite directions. “Train Orders” told the crews when and where they had to pull off into a siding to allow another train to pass.

Railroad watches, aka ‘standard watches’ had to run within 30 seconds/2 weeks. Each railroad had its own rules, though they largely overlapped, and a list of models they’d accept. Railroaders had to present their watch every week to an Inspector, who’d note the deviation from his standard clock, and they’d have to have them serviced on a regular basis by the same inspectors. And they were expressly forbidden from setting the time themselves!

And accuracy was even more crucial before 1883, when the US (finally) went on a Standard Time system. It’s hard to fathom a system where every town or city set it own “time” by a rough approximation of “high noon”: seasonally adjusted. OK if you don’t have any means of communication faster than a walking pace (or Pony Express for really quick comms): but even 19th-Century railroad speeds (40 mph for the “expresses”) pushed the time system too much for efficiency.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:47:12pm

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

A wild wingnut has appeared!

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Actual fascists love the ad.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:48:47pm

re: #42 KGxvi

I’m still not sure that the logic really follows that high turn out is bad for Republicans. I mentioned the other day, going back to ‘68, there doesn’t seem to be much correlation between turn out and the outcome of presidential elections.

I’m just seeing this, so it may have already been explained. I’m not a math guy, so consider this in common man language…keep’n it simple as I can…which isn’t easy. Numbers people; go easy on me.

It’s the proportion of those that vote.

Generally Republican voters turn out much higher percentages of numbers in a given election. Let’s say 70% of their voters turn out most normal elections. Typically Democrats turn out somewhere around 35% of their voters.

But, the key is…Democrats also have a majority of numbers in the population. They just don’t get out to vote in non-presidential elections. Sometimes they don’t make it out in those either.

Now you have an election that has higher numbers involved. Where are those numbers coming from? From the voters that don’t usually vote which is that huge pool of Democrats.

Since the vote is always close in the range of 10 points, now you have more Democrats involved from a bigger pool of voters. Republicans also turn out more, but they are drawing on the last of their numbers.

Bigger turnout means now you have activated a larger percentage of Democrats from a majority of the citizens.

85% of Republicans voting can get beat by 65% of the Democrats and make all the difference in the results.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:48:55pm

re: #124 Jay C

And accuracy was even more crucial before 1883, when the US (finally) went on a Standard Time system. It’s hard to fathom a system where every town or city set it own “time” by a rough approximation of “high noon”: seasonally adjusted. OK if you don’t have any means of communication faster than a walking pace (or Pony Express for really quick comms): but even 19th-Century railroad speeds (40 mph for the “expresses”) pushed the time system too much for efficiency.

When noon was “When the sun is at the zenith”, there could be 12 sec. difference across a single city.

But there were those who opposed Standard Time because it was ‘against the laws of God’, and that we shouldn’t let the railroads tell us what time it was.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:50:56pm

I’m starting to develop a serious “Bro Crush” on this guy

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:53:06pm
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CongoJack  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:55:46pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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Oh look the orangutan is in control of the rudder (messaging). Good luck conservatives, I hope this “marketing genius” does for you what he did for Trump Steaks, Trump Water, and Trump University.

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William Lewis  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:56:07pm

re: #111 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah. I spent 10 minutes yesterday, resetting the 7 railroad pocket watches I keep wound up and running all the time.

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Maybe I should send you my great grandfather’s 1904 Elgin for a CLA…. Nice watches.

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lawhawk  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:57:10pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Hate sells.

Pure and simple.

He doesn’t have time for an upbeat message because at heart he’s a hateful little bitter man. He’s chasing after the votes of other angry bitter men, and saying things are great isn’t going to do it, but ginning up fear to 11ty that a few thousand migrants may make their way to the US and some of them may apply for asylum is enough to cause Trump to send thousands of troops to the border and claim an armed invasion is imminent.

His know nothing base believes it. We see it time and again; Trump picked his marks and knows they wont fact-check anything he says, and they don’t care. They are a party of racists and bigots - and those who aren’t themselves racists and bigots enable the rest of the party because they can’t/wont speak out because they know the base is, in fact, racist and bigoted to the core.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:57:10pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

I’m just seeing this, so it may have already been explained. I’m not a math guy, so consider this in common man language…keep’n it simple as I can…which isn’t easy. Numbers people; go easy on me.

It’s the proportion of those that vote.

Generally Republican voters turn out much higher percentages of numbers in a given election. Let’s say 70% of their voters turn out most normal elections. Typically Democrats turn out somewhere around 35% of their voters.

But, the key is…Democrats also have a majority of numbers in the population. They just don’t get out to vote in non-presidential elections. Sometimes they don’t make it out in those either.

Now you have an election that has higher numbers involved. Where are those numbers coming from? From the voters that don’t usually vote which is that huge pool of Democrats.

Since the vote is always close in the range of 10 points, now you have more Democrats involved from a bigger pool of voters. Republicans also turn out more, but they are drawing on the last of their numbers.

Bigger turnout means now you have activated a larger percentage of Democrats from a majority of the citizens.

85% of Republicans voting can get beat by 65% of the Democrats and make all the difference in the results.

I know that’s the theory, but I’ve posted turnout and popular vote totals in presidential elections, and the “low turn out favors Republicans, high turnout favors Democrats” doesn’t really seem to hold up. (see comment re: #49 KGxvi). For example, 2012 had a lower turn out than 2004, yet Obama won by the same percentage that W did in those years.

And it’s actually kind of difficult to find mid-term turn out numbers. So it’s hard to compare, but it does appear that 2010 saw slightly higher turnout than 2006, and Dems won the popular vote in the House 52-44 in 2006 but lost by basically the same margin in 2010. Targeted turnout is probably more important in the mid-terms than overall turnout.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:57:21pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

As I’ve said before: Often the folks throwing around the “fascist” term remind me of myself at 14, when, during fights with my sister*, I would call her a “fascist pig” because 1) I had no inkling what a fascist was and 2) I thought it was a lower blow than just calling her a pig.

* we don’t fight anymore :)

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:58:22pm

re: #56 Nyet

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Interesting. I have not seen that book, but right off I recognized the graphic type from a guy that posts at a hockey forum that claims to be a Russian hockey fan of the Columbus NHL team. He likes the team’s two Russian stars, that is why he posts there. He uses that main title graphic type as his avatar.

Thanks for the lesson about the book.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:59:42pm

re: #130 CongoJack

Oh look the orangutan is in control of the rudder (messaging). Good luck conservatives, I hope this “marketing genius” does for you what he did for Trump Steaks, Trump Water, and Trump University.

Consider for a moment how ass-backwards his thinking is.

He’s riding a pretty solid economy (again, thanks, Obama!), and going with a positive ad might have even picked up a few more votes.

But he veoted it and ran an ad that was so racist that not even Fox News will air it - and it probably won’t swing many undecideds over to his side. It’s just pandering to people who would have voted for his guys anyway.

Moron.

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 1:59:52pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:00:37pm

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

A wild wingnut has appeared!

Maybe Drump TV can air it.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:00:42pm

re: #130 CongoJack

Oh look the orangutan is in control of the rudder (messaging). Good luck conservatives, I hope this “marketing genius” does for you what he did for Trump Steaks, Trump Water, and Trump University.

And Trump Vodka, and the Trump Taj Mahal, and Trump Plaza and Hotel, and Trump Airlines, and gotrump dot com, and Trump Mortgages (hahahahahahaha), and Trump the Game (the fuck?).

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Sir John Barron  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:02:07pm

re: #137 Kragar

“country” but yes

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:02:42pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

There is so much bitterness and hatred in this tiny orange monkey. He is the embodiment of a screaming, unreasonable 3-year-old, smashing his toys in the midst of an Eternal Tantrum.

Fuck me.

Reminds me of the episode of Deadwood, where the conversation turns to someone being relieve of

” … yer sorrow, your loneliness and that awful feeling of bein’ forsaken?
Tom: Seems to me that’d leave you with nothing.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:04:39pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

November 7 is gonna be a helluva day, regardless of who wins/loses which chamber.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:05:46pm

Lre: #142 Sir John Barron

November 7 is gonna be a helluva day, regardless of who wins/loses which chamber.

I just hope it’s a good day. Trump needs to find out that the people of this country reject his policies and candidates.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:06:31pm

re: #119 sagehen

no you don’t; my computer and my TV change to and from DST without my intervention.

i was referencing the pocket watches ;-)

of which when i was obliged to wear a suit with a vest, i wore a pocket watch for 13 years

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Mike Lamb  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:07:34pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

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Racists gotta racism.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:08:50pm

re: #144 dangerman

i was referencing the pocket watches ;-)

of which when i was obliged to wear a suit with a vest, i wore a pocket watch for 13 years

This is why I love blue jeans - they have a watch pocket. The Costco ones I wear have a pocket big enough for the one keywind watch I have with a 5 oz. Coin Silver case!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:11:57pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:12:12pm

re: #105 goddamnedfrank

Every time I seriously think about getting a real smart phone I consider how goddamned much it costs to buy something with a tiny screen and a shitty user interface that is absolutely going to be obsolete in five years.

I go as cheap as I can…which means no Apples.

ATT gave me a Samsung GalaxyJ3 for $6 a month for three years.

It has all I need from a smart phone.

It a simple Android op system.

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:12:23pm

Who does this remind you of? Try to limit your answer to under a million people in American media and politics.

Catch-22 (9/10) Movie CLIP - Shameful Opportunist (1970) HD

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:12:59pm

Exactly as I predicted, he doesn’t care that the central claim in the ad was a flagrant lie and then tosses out the antisemitic code term “globalist.”

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:13:09pm

re: #124 Jay C

And accuracy was even more crucial before 1883, when the US (finally) went on a Standard Time system. It’s hard to fathom a system where every town or city set it own “time” by a rough approximation of “high noon”: seasonally adjusted. OK if you don’t have any means of communication faster than a walking pace (or Pony Express for really quick comms): but even 19th-Century railroad speeds (40 mph for the “expresses”) pushed the time system too much for efficiency.

this was a fascinating read:

at amazon

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:15:37pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

I’m just seeing this, so it may have already been explained. I’m not a math guy, so consider this in common man language…keep’n it simple as I can…which isn’t easy. Numbers people; go easy on me.

It’s the proportion of those that vote.

Generally Republican voters turn out much higher percentages of numbers in a given election. Let’s say 70% of their voters turn out most normal elections. Typically Democrats turn out somewhere around 35% of their voters.

But, the key is…Democrats also have a majority of numbers in the population. They just don’t get out to vote in non-presidential elections. Sometimes they don’t make it out in those either.

Now you have an election that has higher numbers involved. Where are those numbers coming from? From the voters that don’t usually vote which is that huge pool of Democrats.

Since the vote is always close in the range of 10 points, now you have more Democrats involved from a bigger pool of voters. Republicans also turn out more, but they are drawing on the last of their numbers.

Bigger turnout means now you have activated a larger percentage of Democrats from a majority of the citizens.

85% of Republicans voting can get beat by 65% of the Democrats and make all the difference in the results.

well done.

in summary, more people like Democratic positions
if only they’d all vote all the time…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:18:45pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Exactly as I predicted, he doesn’t care that the central claim in the ad was a flagrant lie and then tosses out the antisemitic code term “globalist.”

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And Arpaio?

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:18:49pm

Ivanka Recount.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:19:24pm

re: #154 jaunte

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Ivanka Recount.

But… sausage casings?

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:19:42pm

re: #132 lawhawk

Hate sells.

Pure and simple.

He doesn’t have time for an upbeat message because at heart he’s a hateful little bitter man. He’s chasing after the votes of other angry bitter men, and saying things are great isn’t going to do it, but ginning up fear to 11ty that a few thousand migrants may make their way to the US and some of them may apply for asylum is enough to cause Trump to send thousands of troops to the border and claim an armed invasion is imminent.

His know nothing base believes it. We see it time and again; Trump picked his marks and knows they wont fact-check anything he says, and they don’t care. They are a party of racists and bigots - and those who aren’t themselves racists and bigots enable the rest of the party because they can’t/wont speak out because they know the base is, in fact, racist and bigoted to the core.

further, the ‘upbeat’ messages are losers:
- the economy - all you need is a chart back to 2008
- the tax cut - everyone now knows where the money went, and didnt trickle…
- kavanaugh - nope, not gonna change one mind about who to vote for
- north korea? what’s that all about?
- helsinki? hell no

the r’s arent running on any of their ‘accomplishments’, so what’s left?

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:19:49pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

Seems more like a Huckabee brand.

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Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:21:12pm

re: #154 jaunte

Daddy’s given her a new order for tens of thousands of prison clothes from child sizes to extra extra large for all the new occupants of private prisons that he’s going to provide after the election.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:22:06pm

re: #151 dangerman

this was a fascinating read:

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at amazon

One thing that having a robust, innovative watch industry in America during WWII allowed was the production of a shitload of marine chronometers and chronometer watches without reliance on the Swiss. Much as I love my Elgins, Hamilton really did the heavy lifting on that.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:23:38pm

re: #158 Skip Intro

I REALLY hate having to subsidize these grifters.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:24:26pm

re: #148 ObserverArt

I go as cheap as I can…which means no Apples.

ATT gave me a Samsung GalaxyJ3 for $6 a month for three years.

It has all I need from a smart phone.

It a simple Android op system.

I’m using an LG-B450 flip phone, battery lasts over a week on one charge and I use a legacy T-Mobile pay as you go plan that only runs me about $100 per year. I use a landline that’s bundled with my tv & internet, email and twitter for everything else. I bought an iPod Touch for music and loaded some stuff like the Cash app on it for the very few times that’s useful, but would just rather throw all the money that would go into a smart phone into shit that lasts, like Nikon lenses.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:24:58pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

This is why I love blue jeans - they have a watch pocket. The Costco ones I wear have a pocket big enough for the one keywind watch I have with a 5 oz. Coin Silver case!

i had a cheap pocket watch i wore with jeans because jeans meant dirt, grease, grime, rough and tumble, careless, etc. though when sitting on a harley it became quite uncomfortable and id have to stow it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:27:23pm

re: #162 dangerman

i had a cheap pocket watch i wore with jeans because jeans meant dirt, grease, grime, rough and tumble, careless, etc. though when sitting on a harley it became quite uncomfortable and id have to stow it.

You ain’t seen dirt, grease, and grime till you’ve seen the engineer of a coal-fired steam locomotive after a shift! That’s why most railroad watches had screw-off back and bezel, instead of hinged - keeps the crap out of the works.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:28:21pm

re: #60 Big Beautiful Door

Big up to all of you who canvassed for Democrats this election cycle. You’ve laid it on the table and put your best foot forward. I hope the enthusiasm on our side means a big win for Democrats tomorrow.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:28:37pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Exactly as I predicted, he doesn’t care that the central claim in the ad was a flagrant lie and then tosses out the antisemitic code term “globalist.”

The person in the ad WAS an illegal immigrant and DID do what the ad claims. Don’t give a shit who was President when he entered. Bush is a globalist shill anyway.

because the republican sheriff who just got pardoned by the republican president let him go, ya knobhead

dems, the democrats, the left, etc had nothing to do with this

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:31:23pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:32:18pm

re: #133 KGxvi

I know that’s the theory, but I’ve posted turnout and popular vote totals in presidential elections, and the “low turn out favors Republicans, high turnout favors Democrats” doesn’t really seem to hold up. (see comment ). For example, 2012 had a lower turn out than 2004, yet Obama won by the same percentage that W did in those years.

And it’s actually kind of difficult to find mid-term turn out numbers. So it’s hard to compare, but it does appear that 2010 saw slightly higher turnout than 2006, and Dems won the popular vote in the House 52-44 in 2006 but lost by basically the same margin in 2010. Targeted turnout is probably more important in the mid-terms than overall turnout.

I think this is a new thing election. All indications are this turnout could equal a presidential election.

And again with my example…the numbers simply favor the Democrats not only by numbers, but by the passions for this one election influencing those numbers.

All the past numbers are correct and they reflect what you show, but those are what I would consider America’s typical ‘past’ voting trends.

This election is looking like it may be the hoped for “future’ election trend, at least maybe for one generation. There are huge new voters. and the youth vote does appear to be up especially in urban areas. More people of color also joining in.

Bigger independent numbers, many leaving the Trumpublicans add in too. Chances are good they will be motivated just because they were motivated to tell the Republicans to piss off. They want to send a message.

Those new independents erode the Republican numbers and fortify the Democrats. That is new too, and it is somewhat aimed at ALL Republicans all over these many races all due to one bad president.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:33:15pm

One item of relief regarding Jr’s girl friend: Months ago some expressed concern that she had the goods on Gavin and just before the election, would drop a scandal that would fatally damage him, and harm the rest of the Democrats running in contested spots in California. Looks like there was nothing to that speculation and Gavin will sail to victory unimpeded.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:34:06pm

re: #152 dangerman

well done.

in summary, more people like Democratic positions
if only they’d all vote all the time…

Good in theory, but in practice, the numbers just don’t bear it out.

Again, here’s the presidential numbers, going back to ‘68, ranked by turnout and who won the popular vote:

1968 (61%) Nixon; 2008 (58.2%) Obama; 2004 (56.7%) GW Bush; 2016 (55.7) Clinton; 1972 (55%) Nixon; 1992 (55%) Clinton; 2012 (54.9%) Obama; 1976 (53.5%) Carter; 1984 (53.3%) Reagan; 1980 (52.6%) Reagan; 2000 (51%) Gore; 1988 (50%) GHW Bush; 1996 (49%) Clinton.

In the House, for midterms it’s not much different:
year/turnout/R-D results
2014 (36.7) 51-45.5
2010 (41) 52-45
2006 (40) 44-52
2002 (39.5) 50-45
1998 (38) 48-47
1994 (41) 52-45
1990 (38.4) 44-52
1986 (38) 44-54
1982 (42) 43-55
1978 (39) 45-54
1974 (39) 41-57.5
1970 (47) 45-53.6

I’m not seeing much correlation there, either. Turn out matters, of course. But I don’t think we can really draw a straight line between higher turn out and good results for Democrats.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:36:16pm

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:39:12pm

re: #169 KGxvi

Good in theory, but in practice, the numbers just don’t bear it out.

Again, here’s the presidential numbers, going back to ‘68, ranked by turnout and who won the popular vote:

1968 (61%) Nixon; 2008 (58.2%) Obama; 2004 (56.7%) GW Bush; 2016 (55.7) Clinton; 1972 (55%) Nixon; 1992 (55%) Clinton; 2012 (54.9%) Obama; 1976 (53.5%) Carter; 1984 (53.3%) Reagan; 1980 (52.6%) Reagan; 2000 (51%) Gore; 1988 (50%) GHW Bush; 1996 (49%) Clinton.

In the House, for midterms it’s not much different:
year/turnout/R-D results
2014 (36.7) 51-45.5
2010 (41) 52-45
2006 (40) 44-52
2002 (39.5) 50-45
1998 (38) 48-47
1994 (41) 52-45
1990 (38.4) 44-52
1986 (38) 44-54
1982 (42) 43-55
1978 (39) 45-54
1974 (39) 41-57.5
1970 (47) 45-53.6

I’m not seeing much correlation there, either. Turn out matters, of course. But I don’t think we can really draw a straight line between higher turn out and good results for Democrats
.

i think im not saying that exactly

im musing (hoping?) that of all the unregistered voters in the country, there are way more latent d’s than r’s. i have no support for this. just a dream that there’s a lot more really good people out there, not really bad ones.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:39:42pm
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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:39:52pm

re: #167 ObserverArt

I think this is a new thing election. All indications are this turnout could equal a presidential election.

And again with my example…the numbers simply favor the Democrats not only by numbers, but by the passions for this one election influencing those numbers.

All the past numbers are correct and they reflect what you show, but those are what I would consider America’s typical ‘past’ voting trends.

This election is looking like it may be the hoped for “future’ election trend, at least maybe for one generation. There are huge new voters. and the youth vote does appear to be up especially in urban areas. More people of color also joining in.

Bigger independent numbers, many leaving the Trumpublicans add in too. Chances are good they will be motivated just because they were motivated to tell the Republicans to piss off. They want to send a message.

Those new independents erode the Republican numbers and fortify the Democrats. That is new too, and it is somewhat aimed at ALL Republicans all over these many races all due to one bad president.

The fabled “realignment election”. You may be right. And it may well turn out that 2016 was an anomaly after all. I am tending toward the view that 2008 was a realignment election - and that may have been something that hurt Hillary Clinton in 2016, because (assuming there was a realignment) she was very much a product of the old alignment. But we can’t know for sure until well after the votes are cast.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:41:50pm
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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:41:57pm

re: #172 jaunte

2016: Jesus, this year sucks.
2017: hold my beer.
2018: fuck that, lemme get these shots down
2019: OPEN BAR BITCHES!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:42:31pm
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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:42:53pm

re: #175 KGxvi

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:44:51pm

re: #171 dangerman

i think im not saying that exactly

im musing (hoping?) that of all the unregistered voters in the country, there are way more latent d’s than r’s. i have no support for this. just a dream that there’s a lot more really good people out there, not really bad ones.

I’m in hopes that a lot of younger people (especially) who haven’t been voting because “My vote doesn’t make any difference” may get out and vote this time because they’re mad as hell and just can’t take it any more. Then when they see their vote actually make a difference, they’ll keep doing it.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:44:58pm

re: #175 KGxvi

2016: Jesus, this year sucks.
2017: hold my beer.
2018: fuck that, lemme get these shots down
2019: OPEN BAR BITCHES!

2020: SHOOT IT DIRECTLY INTO MY VEINS!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:47:29pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

MS-13 war dance and terrorist training camp!!!!!!!

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:51:38pm
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mmmirele  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:51:42pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

I have some pictures of manhole covers from Japan. Some of them are painted, most of them are not. Each governmental authority has a different one. It’s kind of like the different mascots various government entities have. For example, here is Kumamon, the bear mascot of Kumamoto city, as being worn by my brother with the many health problems (but now MUCH better), below the privacy bar.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:53:30pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

L

I just hope it’s a good day. Trump needs to find out that the people of this country reject his policies and candidates.

I honestly don’t think I have the stomach or the heart to watch real time results.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:53:45pm

Also, all the faint praise I had for the Orange County Register for actually endorsing Democrats in statewide offices is hereby revoked, repealed, and annulled:

In addition to his fiscally conservative leanings, Rohrabacher has been an important figure in protecting medical marijuana laws across the country from federal interference. He has also been a reliable supporter of civil asset forfeiture reform and earlier this year broke ranks from most of his party in support of mass surveillance protections.

Alas, Rohrabacher has a tendency to say wildly inappropriate things and support policies out of step with a limited government approach. From saying property owners should be able to refuse to sell their homes to gay people to suggesting students should be armed, Rohrabacher’s off-the-cuff remarks often undermine confidence in him.

Additionally, while there has yet to be any substantiated evidence of wrongdoing, his apparent affinity for Vladimir Putin is cause for concern.

In light of these concerns, our editorial board has taken seriously the candidacy of businessman Harley Rouda.

While casting himself as a Democrat who puts country over party, Rouda unfortunately struggled in a meeting with our editorial board to articulate what he means by that, offering only his support of greater border security as backing for his claim. Though the district could benefit from a true centrist, Rouda is not that person.

They’ve decided Vlad’s man in the House deserves another term.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:55:07pm

re: #183 MsJ

I honestly don’t think I have the stomach or the heart to watch real time results.

I got invited to the Wexton watch party. I’ve never been to one before. I’m going to check it out. Hope for positive mojo.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:56:00pm

re: #184 KGxvi

Also, all the faint praise I had for the Orange County Register for actually endorsing Democrats in statewide offices is hereby revoked, repealed, and annulled:

They’ve decided Vlad’s man in the House deserves another term.

I like how they act like his support for Putin is just a small thing.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:58:01pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

I like how they act like his support for Putin is just a small thing.

I also like how they ignore that most Democrats are going to be on board with the things they like about Rohrbacher - against a bad tax cut (check), for medical marijuana (check), against civil asset forfeiture (check), not in bed with the Russians (check)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:58:29pm

re: #187 KGxvi

I also like how they ignore that most Democrats are going to be on board with the things they like about Rohrbacher - against a bad tax cut (check), for medical marijuana (check), against civil asset forfeiture (check), not in bed with the Russians (check)

Yes that’s a good point as well.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:58:44pm

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I just went to their site before reading your comment. They have the generic congressional ballot “all tied up” and an article on the silent red wave. Trump’s approval at 50% (next best at 538 is 41%)

I assume they do it to depress democrats into not voting.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 2:59:55pm

re: #189 fern01

I just went to their site before reading your comment. They have the generic congressional ballot “all tied up” and an article on the silent red wave. Trump’s approval at 50% (next best at 538 is 41%)

I assume they do it to depress democrats into not voting.

I don’t think Trump even during his honeymoon period has gotten 50%. But that only makes me want to vote more.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:00:19pm

re: #183 MsJ

I honestly don’t think I have the stomach or the heart to watch real time results.

You have to at least watch and see if Larry Sinclair wins his race for mayor!

Two Democratic African-American candidates with experience on the Cocoa City Council are running for the mayor’s seat in Cocoa.

The third candidate in the race — who has not held elective office — is Larry Sinclair, who has a long rap sheet and a history of circulating a widely ridiculed story of a drug-fueled gay encounter with Barack Obama in 1999.

floridatoday.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:00:28pm

Interesting discussions with the village clerk and the postmistress on voting in the past here in town. (I had to take water samples for the state, one of which is required to go by overnight mail, so that set the village back $78 for postage.)

Both of them noted they really don’t like mail voting; they prefer when we had a polling station in the village.

The American Legion Auxiliary and the Fire Department Auxiliary would throw a big “meet and greet” and a big dinner for everyone who came out to vote.

Mail voting was adopted before I moved here, so I never saw any of that.

On the local non-scientific polling front, several people at the Post Office today said they voted for me. (Yay)

It is depressing to look at FiveThirtyEight and see we’re still the most conservative house district in the nation, with a greater than 99% chance of the district remaining in my Republican representative’s hands, even though he did no campaigning (and his opponent appeared across the state).

So I won’t be cheering for my own house district, but will be looking forward to those folk in Eastern Time ousting Dave Brat or Andy Barr.

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mmmirele  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:00:49pm

The US Olympic Committee is decertifying USA Gymnastics and, for the time being, taking over the high performance gymnastics team (i.e., the Simone Bileses of the world).

nytimes.com

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:01:01pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I got invited to the Wexton watch party. I’ve never been to one before. I’m going to check it out. Hope for positive mojo.

I’ll hope as well. 🙂

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:01:04pm

re: #191 bd(soros funded)

You have to at least watch and see if Larry Sinclair wins his race for mayor!

floridatoday.com

Oh wow.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:01:32pm

re: #194 MsJ

I’ll hope as well. 🙂

I’m alot more cautious than I was two years ago. Hope for the best, expect the worst.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:02:39pm

re: #183 MsJ

I honestly don’t think I have the stomach or the heart to watch real time results.

no need to watch

see my re: #68 dangerman

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:03:25pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

I don’t think Trump even during his honeymoon period has gotten 50%. But that only makes me want to vote more.

His high water mark is 45%

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:04:39pm

re: #198 KGxvi

His high water mark is 45%

I contend this. Trump has a lower ceiling than presidents like Obama, Bush, or Clinton but he has a higher ceiling floor since his core supporters will support him no matter what.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:05:52pm

re: #197 dangerman

no need to watch

see my

On Tuesday nights, Bravo Canada runs a marathon of The Closer. Like 8 episodes. Since I never watched it when it was new, it’s all new to me now. I’ll be watching The Closer all night and resisting the urge to check LGF for updates.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:07:28pm

re: #200 MsJ

On Tuesday nights, Bravo Canada runs a marathon of The Closer. Like 8 episodes. Since I never watched it when it was new, it’s all new to me now. I’ll be watching The Closer all night and resisting the urge to check LGF for updates.

mrs dm watches closer reruns almost every night

(thank you so much)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:08:03pm

It’s a bit of a paradox, isn’t it?

What energizes GOP voters?

The insane, bizarre and angry ranting of Donald Trump.

What energizes Democratic voters?

The insane, bizarre and angry ranting of Donald Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:09:26pm

re: #183 MsJ

I honestly don’t think I have the stomach or the heart to watch real time results.

Totally agree with you.

I am invited to an election party sponsored by the candidate I worked for (very part time) but I share that apprehension. During the Virginia races last year, I chastised a friend who was texting me early results because (1) they tend to be worthless and (2) I am way too superstitious to want to hear them come in live. So haven’t decided yet whether I can bring myself to watch tomorrow — especially after the November 2016 fiasco.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:09:51pm

re: #201 dangerman

mrs dm watches closer reruns almost every night

(thank you so much)

You’re very welcome!!

(What did I do?)

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:09:59pm

re: #189 fern01

I just went to their site before reading your comment. They have the generic congressional ballot “all tied up” and an article on the silent red wave. Trump’s approval at 50% (next best at 538 is 41%)

I assume they do it to depress democrats into not voting.

I’m not sure why they do it, but I do see one noticeable flaw in their methodology:

All Rasmussen Reports’ survey questions are digitally recorded and fed to a calling program that determines question order, branching options, and other factors. Calls are placed to randomly-selected phone numbers through a process that ensures appropriate geographic representation. Typically, calls are placed from 5 pm to 9 pm local time during the week. Saturday calls are made from 11 am to 6 pm local time and Sunday calls from 1 pm to 9 pm local time.

To reach those who have abandoned traditional landline telephones, Rasmussen Reports uses an online survey tool to interview randomly selected participants from a demographically diverse panel.

After the surveys are completed, the raw data is processed through a weighting program to ensure that the sample reflects the overall population in terms of age, race, gender, political party, and other factors. The processing step is required because different segments of the population answer the phone in different ways. For example, women answer the phone more than men, older people are home more and answer more than younger people, and rural residents typically answer the phone more frequently than urban residents.

I think most other polls have started including cellphones in their calling. There’s also a question of how they weigh the results that they do get.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:10:10pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I contend this. Trump has a lower ceiling than presidents like Obama, Bush, or Clinton but he has a higher ceiling since his core supporters will support him no matter what.

Floor?

Yeah, this. Trump’s “Strong Disapproval” rating is very high, >50% in some polls, and there’s not really anything HE could do* to change those minds, in much the same way that the 35% floor is unbreakable.

*Any other President could probably change that, but not Trump. It’s not within his capability.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:11:40pm

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

Totally agree with you.

I am invited to an election party sponsored by the candidate I worked for (very part time) but I share that apprehension. During the Virginia races last year, I chastised a friend who was texting me early results because (1) they tend to be worthless and (2) I am way too superstitious to want to hear them come in live. So haven’t decided yet whether I can bring myself to watch tomorrow — especially after the November 2016 fiasco.

The thing you have to realize about Virginia is our conservative areas come in first. That’s why I always take a deep breath. I think we’ll know that Kaine will have defeated Stewart pretty early on tomorrow though. Wexton and the other Dems running for the House though I’m not sure. I actually feel the best about my disrict of the ones being challenged since we went for Clinton by 10 points and I don’t think Comstock has distanced herself enough from Trump who is unpopular here.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:11:55pm

re: #172 jaunte

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Sure. Right. He’ll sue to prevent their disclosure.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:12:15pm

re: #206 Blind Frog Belly White

Floor?

Yeah, this. Trump’s “Strong Disapproval” rating is very high, >50% in some polls, and there’s not really anything HE could do* to change those minds, in much the same way that the 35% floor is unbreakable.

*Any other President could probably change that, but not Trump. It’s not within his capability.

Floor yes. Sorry.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:12:45pm

re: #204 MsJ

You’re very welcome!!

(What did I do?)

it’s what she says all the time

along with
“i will arrest you”

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:12:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:13:48pm

re: #211 Kragar

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Yeah Fox is such a liberal bastion with liberals like Jeanne Pirro, Jesse Walters, Lou Dobbs, and the others. God Trumpers are some delusional people.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:14:02pm

re: #205 KGxvi

I’m not sure why they do it, but I do see one noticeable flaw in their methodology:

I think most other polls have started including cellphones in their calling. There’s also a question of how they weigh the results that they do get.

just look at their likely african-american republican turnout and you know all you need to know

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:14:07pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I contend this. Trump has a lower ceiling than presidents like Obama, Bush, or Clinton but he has a higher ceiling since his core supporters will support him no matter what.

I think the ultimate floor for any president is probably somewhere around 25%. There will always be devout partisans on each side that will back their guy no matter what. The ultimate ceiling is probably around 90%, that’s where GW Bush ended up after 9/11.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:16:19pm

re: #214 KGxvi

I think the ultimate floor for any president is probably somewhere around 25%. There will always be devout partisans on each side that will back their guy no matter what. The ultimate ceiling is probably around 90%, that’s where GW Bush ended up after 9/11.

I have to agree with you. That’s also why I don’t think we’ll see a 1964, 1972, or 1984 type landslide in my lifetime. I of course hoped and thought Trump deserved to be landslided the most of anyone in history two years ago but I knew it wasn’t going to happen even when I thought HRC would win fairly convincingly.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:16:25pm

Putinites very excited at the prospect of Americans killing each other.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:17:00pm

re: #214 KGxvi

I think the ultimate floor for any president is probably somewhere around 25%. There will always be devout partisans on each side that will back their guy no matter what. The ultimate ceiling is probably around 90%, that’s where GW Bush ended up after 9/11.

Thee 27% Crazification Factor.

I think the George Bushes might both have done the largest swings in popularity, from the 90s down to the high 20s. It suggests less emotional attachment to either loving them or hating them.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:18:10pm

BTW, you can check your registration here.

I just did, just in case. Good to go.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:18:38pm

re: #181 jaunte

View image on Twitter

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This guy’s gonna vote.
You better vote too. #VoteBlue

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Except that the author was actually an atheist trying to discredit the Bible .. Bible verse about silencing women appears on man’s truck

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:20:35pm

re: #178 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m in hopes that a lot of younger people (especially) who haven’t been voting because “My vote doesn’t make any difference” may get out and vote this time because they’re mad as hell and just can’t take it any more. Then when they see their vote actually make a difference, they’ll keep doing it.

It’s one of the things I don’t get about Millenial (Gen Y) bashing. The earliest Millenials are already near forty (starting at 1980 for a point). Millenials at the older end of the cohort are already approaching middle age, have jobs or children (or both), crushing college debts thanks to GOP policies put in place starting with Reagan, &c.

Even the oldest of Gen Z is now old enough to vote.

Of those groups most likely to vote, the Greatest Generation is nearly gone, the Silent Generation (including my mother) is almost gone, and Baby Boomers on the old end are also disappearing rapidly. (I’m on the young end.)

How people vote early in their life pretty much determines how they vote all their life, and if Gens X-Z are learning just how crappy GOP policies have been since before they were born, rigging the game so they can never get ahead, most will align lifelong away from the GOP.

Maybe this election won’t be the one to make a difference (but the early numbers sure look like it is), but it won’t be too much longer.

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jaunte  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:20:41pm

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

Interesting. I was having a hard time putting the Ludwig sticker together with the rest of that. A Biblical drummer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:20:48pm

re: #217 Blind Frog Belly White

Thee 27% Crazification Factor.

I think the George Bushes might both have done the largest swings in popularity, from the 90s down to the high 20s. It suggests less emotional attachment to either loving them or hating them.

Bush I had the biggest swings. The extreme highs of being the toast of the world from how he handled Desert Storm and he does deserve credit for that since he showed the importance of coalition building but the lows of the economic troubles which really wasn’t his fault. I actually think he’s the best Republican President since Ike left that served a full term. His administration was more or less ethical, decent on FP, and had some good domestic achievements too. Not a total swing and a miss on SCOTUS either since while we got Thomas, we also got Souter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:22:13pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I contend this. Trump has a lower ceiling than presidents like Obama, Bush, or Clinton but he has a higher ceiling floor since his core supporters will support him no matter what.

27%, the crazification factor of people who will pull the lever for R-Sonist.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:23:02pm

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹

It’s one of the things I don’t get about Millenial (Gen Y) bashing. The earliest Millenials are already near forty (starting at 1980 for a point). Millenials at the older end of the cohort are already approaching middle age, have jobs or children (or both), crushing college debts thanks to GOP policies put in place starting with Reagan, &c.

Even the oldest of Gen Z is now old enough to vote.

Of those groups most likely to vote, the Greatest Generation is nearly gone, the Silent Generation (including my mother) is almost gone, and Baby Boomers on the old end are also disappearing rapidly. (I’m on the young end.)

How people vote early in their life pretty much determines how they vote all their life, and if Gens X-Z are learning just how crappy GOP policies have been since before they were born, rigging the game so they can never get ahead, most will align lifelong away from the GOP.

Maybe this election won’t be the one to make a difference (but the early numbers sure look like it is), but it won’t be too much longer.

Speaking as one, what pisses me off are the people who give my generation shit for “not understanding capitalism.” We understand capitalism just fine thanks. We just don’t like that we’ve been given a totally different version of the one that allowed our grandparents to attend college when college was a gateway to a middle class lifestyle and allowed our parents to pretty much enter the employment market with a BA or BS without having to do so many tedious unpaid internships and I’ve only had avocado toast a handful times thanks and I usually have made my own.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:23:23pm

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹

27%, the crazification factor of people who will pull the lever for R-Sonist.

Yes. That’s definitely related.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:24:54pm

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

Totally agree with you.

I am invited to an election party sponsored by the candidate I worked for (very part time) but I share that apprehension. During the Virginia races last year, I chastised a friend who was texting me early results because (1) they tend to be worthless and (2) I am way too superstitious to want to hear them come in live. So haven’t decided yet whether I can bring myself to watch tomorrow — especially after the November 2016 fiasco.

I was not invited by my county party to the county watch party. (Aside from the fact they are all a generation older than me, they think I am far too left for the party’s good, never mind I am the only one elected in the county.)

The town bar is having a “non-partisan” watch party though, so I might go to that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:26:47pm

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

Except that the author was actually an atheist trying to discredit the Bible .. [Embedded content]

I’d bet real money this guy doesn’t work in any field that involves clearly articulating a message.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:28:05pm

re: #223 Anymouse 🌹

27%, the crazification factor of people who will pull the lever for R-Sonist.

Yep.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:30:07pm

Scott Walker puts the ‘Con’ in Foxconn.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:31:11pm

re: #215 HappyWarrior

I have to agree with you. That’s also why I don’t think we’ll see a 1964, 1972, or 1984 type landslide in my lifetime. I of course hoped and thought Trump deserved to be landslided the most of anyone in history two years ago but I knew it wasn’t going to happen even when I thought HRC would win fairly convincingly.

With the right nominee, I think 2020 could be a pretty big landslide. But those three elections were also fairly popular incumbents against a rather uninspiring challenger. Very different circumstances, I suspect 1976 will be a solid template for 2020 (I don’t see an independent giving us 1992).

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:31:24pm

re: #76 Eclectic Cyborg

JFC. I really hate this asshole.

A sentiment heard often across the world

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:31:36pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:32:38pm

re: #109 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Everything around you displays the time nowadays. Right now in front of me is the time displayed on both of my iPads, my kitchen radio, the microwave, and the oven + my iPhone.

Same here. I have my computer in front of me of course (my screen saver is an analogue clock), a BNSF railroad clock to my left, my wife’s computer behind me, a Triple Nine analogue clock in the kitchen (all the numbers are mathematical equations which only contain the digit “9” but add up to the correct number), an original Big Ben wind up clock from around 1914 in my bedroom, my microwave and oven both have digital clocks.

There is a digital clock on my car’s dashboard as well.

And yet I still manage to be late for some things.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:32:59pm

re: #230 KGxvi

With the right nominee, I think 2020 could be a pretty big landslide. But those three elections were also fairly popular incumbents against a rather uninspiring challenger. Very different circumstances, I suspect 1976 will be a solid template for 2020 (I don’t see an independent giving us 1992).

Hard to say. ‘76 might be on the button though.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:33:48pm

re: #230 KGxvi

With the right nominee, I think 2020 could be a pretty big landslide. But those three elections were also fairly popular incumbents against a rather uninspiring challenger. Very different circumstances, I suspect 1976 will be a solid template for 2020 (I don’t see an independent giving us 1992).

I don’t think my heart can stand a repeat of 1976 — way too close and results took too long.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:34:26pm

re: #233 Anymouse 🌹

Same here. I have my computer in front of me of course (my screen saver is an analogue clock), a BNSF railroad clock to my left, my wife’s computer behind me, a Triple Nine analogue clock in the kitchen (all the numbers are mathematical equations which only contain the digit “9” but add up to the correct number), an original Big Ben wind up clock from around 1914 in my bedroom, my microwave and oven both have digital clocks.

There is a digital clock on my car’s dashboard as well.

And yet I still manage to be late for some things.

Are they all set to the same time?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:35:45pm

re: #232 MsJ

Well, there’s a bit of a glitch in that, since it says I have to vote at my county clerk’s office sixteen miles away. (My real polling place was the Post Office last week.)

I don’t actually think you can vote at our county clerk’s office; it’s just a window in the hallway of the courthouse.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:36:04pm

The Iron Patriot standing up against Hydra.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:36:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:37:06pm

re: #238 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

The Iron Patriot standing up against Hydra.

Love Cheadle.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:37:56pm

re: #109 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

Everything around you displays the time nowadays. Right now in front of me is the time displayed on both of my iPads, my kitchen radio, the microwave, and the oven + my iPhone.

And every time we have a power outage - there are a series of flashing lights demanding my attention. I still have to go find the instructions to sort out the oven.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:39:38pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

Are they all set to the same time?

That could be my problem. /s

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Brian J.  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:40:22pm

re: #234 HappyWarrior

Hard to say. ‘76 might be on the button though.

1976 doesn’t really look like any election before or since. I wouldn’t make it the basis for any predictions about the future.

If the Democrats win big in 2018, I think 2020 will look a lot like the best of the Clinton/ Obama majorities- scrapping voter suppression laws will boost the Democrats in the South Atlantic and southwestern states (maybe even Texas, but I doubt it and the Democrats shouldn’t need it), but the interior South, Plains states and northern Rockies are gone absent divine intervention.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:40:32pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:40:45pm

Grrrrrrr. Just got a text message for the fucking RNC asking to back Trump candidates in this election. I do not want texts from the damn RNC!!!

I sent it in as spam and blocked the number after responding that I considered it an unwanted invasion of my privacy.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:43:18pm

re: #241 fern01

And every time we have a power outage - there are a series of flashing lights demanding my attention. I still have to go find the instructions to sort out the oven.

And the digital clocks you put a battery in to supposedly maintain the time, then if the power’s off a couple hours they always gain at least ten minutes. WTH is the point of that?

And while we’re at it, why do they always gain time and never lose? You always have to go all the way around when you’re setting them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:44:00pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

Grrrrrrr. Just got a text message for the fucking RNC asking to back Trump candidates in this election. I do not want texts from the damn RNC!!!

I sent it in as spam and blocked the number after responding that I considered it an unwanted invasion of my privacy.

My rotary phone has been blissfully quiet. No texts.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:45:12pm

re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And the digital clocks you put a battery in to supposedly maintain the time, then if the power’s off a couple hours they always gain at least ten minutes. WTH is the point of that?

And while we’re at it, why do they always gain time and never lose? You always have to go all the way around when you’re setting them.

I neglected my other clock, a 1925 GE DC ammeter made into a Nixie clock (a single Nixie tube built into it displays the time one digit at a time, the meter can display multiple things - currently I have it set to “day of the week”).

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:48:58pm

Apparently the 3:45 Mustang has been reset to Standard Time.*

*Every day at about 3:45, a newish black Mustang GT goes roaring up the hill, with the exhaust set on ‘loud’. Sounds pretty good, actually

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:49:04pm

Time is fake news. Gravity FTW.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:49:47pm

re: #250 Amory Blaine

Time is fake news. Gravity FTW.

Can’t measure acceleration without time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:49:47pm
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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:51:23pm

re: #245 ObserverArt

Grrrrrrr. Just got a text message for the fucking RNC asking to back Trump candidates in this election. I do not want texts from the damn RNC!!!

I sent it in as spam and blocked the number after responding that I considered it an unwanted invasion of my privacy.

You and me both. Why I have no idea.

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delilah  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:51:30pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

No, it doesn’t. I watched it all the way through. It says to vote democratic.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:52:07pm

I would give Mr. Wright an upding if I could. Heck, even in my town of 128 I worked for votes.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:52:09pm

Just a FYI: I exchanged my 4 yo $300 OnePlus one yesterday for a new 6t at t mobile with total out of pocket less than 300. Has all the features of the more expensive ones. Might be worth looking into. 300 every 4 years ain’t too bad.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:53:34pm

If it weren’t for the deal I would have kept it but the battery was going to shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:54:19pm

Mrs. FBW texts that poor Dory is whimpering from her second Lepto vaccination. Poor little thing!

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:55:47pm

re: #254 delilah

No, it doesn’t. I watched it all the way through. It says to vote democratic.

I think that’s what OA meant, rather than ‘it doesn’t matter who you vote for.’

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Jay C  Nov 5, 2018 • 3:59:07pm

re: #229 Blind Frog Belly White

Scott Walker puts the ‘Con’ in Foxconn.

[Embedded content]

IIRC, Foxconn never *promised* to create “13,000 jobs” - that figure was (again IIRC) the one Walker and the GOP liked to throw around to try to cover up the unconscionable giveaway they bribed the Chinese with to set up their plant in WI (vs., who knows? Malaysia?). But I think those “promises” were not particularly enforceable - vs. the cash advances Foxconn insisted on.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:00:04pm

re: #169 KGxvi

In the House, for midterms it’s not much different:
year/turnout/R-D results
2014 (36.7) 51-45.5
2010 (41) 52-45
2006 (40) 44-52
2002 (39.5) 50-45
1998 (38) 48-47
1994 (41) 52-45
1990 (38.4) 44-52
1986 (38) 44-54
1982 (42) 43-55
1978 (39) 45-54
1974 (39) 41-57.5
1970 (47) 45-53.6

I’m not seeing much correlation there, either. Turn out matters, of course. But I don’t think we can really draw a straight line between higher turn out and good results for Democrats.

Looking at the house midterm totals, it seems the main decider (with maybe one exception) is - the vote goes against the party of the president. I’m happy with that.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:01:06pm

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:01:15pm

re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And the digital clocks you put a battery in to supposedly maintain the time, then if the power’s off a couple hours they always gain at least ten minutes. WTH is the point of that?

And while we’re at it, why do they always gain time and never lose? You always have to go all the way around when you’re setting them.

(should we get off your lawn now?)

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:03:52pm

re: #243 Brian J.

1976 doesn’t really look like any election before or since. I wouldn’t make it the basis for any predictions about the future.

If the Democrats win big in 2018, I think 2020 will look a lot like the best of the Clinton/ Obama majorities- scrapping voter suppression laws will boost the Democrats in the South Atlantic and southwestern states (maybe even Texas, but I doubt it and the Democrats shouldn’t need it), but the interior South, Plains states and northern Rockies are gone absent divine intervention.

1976 is the only election since ‘68 where the incumbent lost without a third party candidate getting a significant vote total. That’s why I picked it originally. It was also a screwy year because Agnew and Nixon resigned so Ford was an incumbent but not in the traditional sense of having been on the ticket the prior cycle.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:04:21pm

re: #154 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Ivanka Recount.

Setting things up for 2020 already.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:05:14pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Yeah, Virginia is a blue state because of the Northern suburbs. Bye bye Comstock!!

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:06:11pm

re: #193 mmmirele

The US Olympic Committee is decertifying USA Gymnastics and, for the time being, taking over the high performance gymnastics team (i.e., the Simone Bileses of the world).

nytimes.com

For folks like me who refuse to give clicks (free or otherwise) to the nyt here is another link theguardian.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:06:13pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

[Embedded content]

I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

Not to be lookist, but unless she scores something as a Talking Blonde Head in right wing media, I’d say she’ll have to get a real job. Take away the gun, and she’s pretty much generic.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:06:54pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

[Embedded content]

I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

Other than managing to get publicity through outrageous actions, does she have have any real job skills? My guess is her media persona might interfere in getting her access to standard openings in corporate America.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:07:10pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

[Embedded content]

I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

This pics are air brushed and photoshopped. She looks decent in them. All her other pics show her au natural, and she isn’t that attractive at all.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:09:27pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

[Embedded content]

I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

She’s had that up for a day and a 1/2 and she is up to $350 a month.

That is the peak it’s not like interest in politics goes down right after the election and folks donating peter out after a while.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:09:48pm

re: #269 Hecuba’s daughter

Other than managing to get publicity through outrageous actions, does she have have any real job skills? My guess is her media persona might interfere in getting her access to standard openings in corporate America.

Could limit career opportunities, for sure. But it might make certain employers more likely to hire her.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:12:30pm

re: #270 MsJ

This pics are air brushed and photoshopped. She looks decent in them. All her other pics show her au natural, and she isn’t that attractive at all.

Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. And trying to imitate Angelina Jolie from Mr and Mrs Smith is just not working. Kaitlin is, well, too chunky to pull it off.

re: #269 Hecuba’s daughter

Other than managing to get publicity through outrageous actions, does she have have any real job skills? My guess is her media persona might interfere in getting her access to standard openings in corporate America.

I think she’ll be lucky to get any job outside of her hometown of Zanesville, OH, pop. 25,000.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:12:52pm

I’m from that area. She will have a baby soon and this will all be over.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:14:02pm

re: #274 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I’m from that area. She will have a baby soon and this will all be over.

Probably in the Bristol Palin way, y’think?

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:14:19pm

re: #274 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I’m from that area. She will have a baby soon and this will all be over.

If her personality is anything like what she portrays herself to be, maybe not.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:14:41pm

re: #274 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I’m from that area. She will have a baby soon and this will all be over.

Then she can take over Palin’s gig at the Abstinence Only Company.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:16:13pm

Ratfucking POS says what.

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austin_blue  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:16:54pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

Speaking as one, what pisses me off are the people who give my generation shit for “not understanding capitalism.” We understand capitalism just fine thanks. We just don’t like that we’ve been given a totally different version of the one that allowed our grandparents to attend college when college was a gateway to a middle class lifestyle and allowed our parents to pretty much enter the employment market with a BA or BS without having to do so many tedious unpaid internships and I’ve only had avocado toast a handful times thanks and I usually have made my own.

This. You are exactly right. Deregulation has taken the reasonable controls that limited markets into an economic system that privatizes profits and socializes the cost. From college loans to feeding the armed services, it’s a free for all for for-profit companies.

When I was in the AF in the late 70’s-early 80’s, AF personnel cooked and served our food when we were on alert. By the time Iraq II rolled around, it was all outsourced to corporations who hired out to foreigners, paid them shit, and reaped huge profits.

It’s a mug’s game, and we pay for it.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:17:01pm

Because I am a terrible person, I clicked on the wikipedia page for the 2020 presidential election… apparently Maryland Governor Larry Hogan has expressed possible interest in challenging Trump for the GOP nomination? He seems like one of those old school moderate Republicans, any Old Line State lizards care to weigh in?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:17:40pm

re: #278 Amory Blaine

Ratfucking POS says what.

[Embedded content]

“Hey, look at that post with the two dicks!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:18:05pm

re: #276 MsJ

If her personality is anything like what she portrays herself to be, maybe not.

Other than being a gun rights fanatic and hostile to New York City, has she spouted the typical social conservative nonsense? I don’t remember attacks on Planned Parenthood or SSM or other bete noires of social conservatives.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:18:23pm
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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:18:42pm

re: #280 KGxvi

Because I am a terrible person, I clicked on the wikipedia page for the 2020 presidential election… apparently Maryland Governor Larry Hogan has expressed possible interest in challenging Trump for the GOP nomination? He seems like one of those old school moderate Republicans, any Old Line State lizards care to weigh in?

If he’s not an asshole, he’ll go down in flames.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:19:06pm
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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:20:22pm

re: #275 wheat-dogg

Probably in the Bristol Palin way, y’think?

Days should be passed when we attack single women for having babes. Takes 2 people to make a babe and it is usually the woman, not the man who takes on the task of raising the child. Lots of negative things can be said about Bristol - this should not be one of them.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:20:36pm

re: #284 MsJ

If he’s not an asshole, he’ll go down in flames.

He’ll probably go down in flames no matter what. Nobody has challenged a sitting president for his party’s nomination in the modern primary era and actually won. But any president that has been challenged like that has lost the general election. I’m just curious who he is and if he’s as good as his wikipedia page suggests.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:21:18pm

re: #282 Hecuba’s daughter

Other than being a gun rights fanatic and hostile to New York City, has she spouted the typical social conservative nonsense? I don’t remember attacks on Planned Parenthood or SSM or other bete noires of social conservatives.

Oops — she is anti abortion.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:22:47pm

re: #286 fern01

Days should be passed when we attack single women for having babes. Takes 2 people to make a babe and it is usually the woman, not the man who takes on the task of raising the child. Lots of negative things can be said about Bristol - this should not be one of them.

Many of the attacks against Bristol are related to her apparent hypocrisy: she promotes abstinence and then clearly doesn’t practice it.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:24:20pm

re: #289 Hecuba’s daughter

Many of the attacks against Bristol are related to her apparent hypocrisy: she promotes abstinence and then clearly doesn’t practice it.

That’s fine - as I said, many reasons to criticise her - but attacking her for being a single Mom is wrong.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:24:40pm

re: #280 KGxvi

Because I am a terrible person, I clicked on the wikipedia page for the 2020 presidential election… apparently Maryland Governor Larry Hogan has expressed possible interest in challenging Trump for the GOP nomination? He seems like one of those old school moderate Republicans, any Old Line State lizards care to weigh in?

I’m not from Maryland but I’m across the river. Hogan seems like a decent guy which is why he won’t get it. In fact, I’d bet against him as a serious GOP presidential contender even in an environment where the party wasn’t toxic. He’s just not an ideologue.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:24:44pm

re: #289 Hecuba’s daughter

Many of the attacks against Bristol are related to her apparent hypocrisy: she promotes abstinence and then clearly doesn’t practice it.

Didn’t she actually make money promoting abstinence after the first child, but before the second?

It’s not that she gets pregnant out of wedlock. It’s that she’s a grifter.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:26:07pm

re: #278 Amory Blaine

I’ve discovered someone even more aggravating than GG. Because I follow the Bitcoin world, I’ve come across an “anarchocapitalist” named Jeff Berwick, who hits all the usual uber-libertarian bullet points. I’ve tried to watch a couple of his YT videos and just can’t even. Like Greenwald, he acts like every organization, be it schools, banks or political parties, is inherently bad, because reasons. And like Greenwald, he makes his money by telling disaffected men (I suspect he has few female followers, because he’s an arrogant asshole, but hey I could be wrong) exactly what they want to hear.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:26:52pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

Didn’t she actually make money promoting abstinence after the first child, but before the second?

It’s not that she gets pregnant out of wedlock. It’s that she’s a grifter.

She’s also a genuinely nasty person. I certainly don’t feel that way about all GOP office holders’ children. In fact, I actually like Dubya and Laura’s daughters a lot as people.But Bristol and her sister Willow and their older brother just seem like awful people like their parents.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:27:30pm

Some day, Trump’s “All Show/No Results” approach to diplomacy will come back and bite us in the ass.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:27:41pm

re: #286 fern01

Days should be passed when we attack single women for having babes. Takes 2 people to make a babe and it is usually the woman, not the man who takes on the task of raising the child. Lots of negative things can be said about Bristol - this should not be one of them.

Bristol deserves scorn for being a hypocrite, not because she had a baby before getting married — more than once.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:29:01pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

….
…. It’s that she’s a grifter.

When it comes to grifting, like mother like daughter.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:29:02pm

re: #273 wheat-dogg

Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. And trying to imitate Angelina Jolie from Mr and Mrs Smith is just not working. Kaitlin is, well, too chunky to pull it off.

I think she’ll be lucky to get any job outside of her hometown of Zanesville, OH, pop. 25,000.

home of the Y bridge known in song and story

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:29:23pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

Didn’t she actually make money promoting abstinence after the first child, but before the second?

It’s not that she gets pregnant out of wedlock. It’s that she’s a grifter.

As I said - that’s fine - but the post, as I read it, was critical of her getting pregnant without a husband. It really hurts me to see young women attacked for being pregnant “outside of wedlock”. There is little particularly fine about much of “wedlock” - especially for women.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:30:09pm

re: #296 wheat-dogg

Bristol deserves scorn for being a hypocrite, not because she had a baby before getting married — more than once.

I personally don’t care what Bristol does with her body before marriage. It’s none of my business. However, when you’ve got people like Mike Huckabee, one of her mother’s political allies going on the air trashing Natalie Portman who had a much more stable relationship with her child’s father, they in fact are now married while also saying that we should respect Bristol’s privacy, that ticks me off.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:30:34pm

re: #293 wheat-dogg

I’ve discovered someone even more aggravating than GG. Because I follow the Bitcoin world, I’ve come across an “anarchocapitalist” named Jeff Berwick, who hits all the usual uber-libertarian bullet points. I’ve tried to watch a couple of his YT videos and just can’t even. Like Greenwald, he acts like every organization, be it schools, banks or political parties, is inherently bad, because reasons. And like Greenwald, he makes his money by telling disaffected men (I suspect he has few female followers, because he’s an arrogant asshole, but hey I could be wrong) exactly what they want to hear.

The anarchocapitalists are a very special breed of asshole. Like certified waygu grade A-5 special breed.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:30:53pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

She’s also a genuinely nasty person. I certainly don’t feel that way about all GOP office holders’ children. In fact, I actually like Dubya and Laura’s daughters a lot as people.But Bristol and her sister Willow and their older brother just seem like awful people like their parents.

If there is a best of the bunch it is Willow. She went to school, got a job & recently married. Was rarely part of the grift other than being dragged along by the rest of them

Edit: Never thought I’d be a palin supporter - egads - they are done - why even the mentions

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Brian J.  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:31:01pm

re: #278 Amory Blaine

Ratfucking POS says what.

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This is what’s behind a lot of the last few days’ articles downplaying the Democrats’ chances. Nearly every journalist (and Glenn and Matt) covering the Democratic Party on a regular basis is strongly left-wing and supported the efforts of Bernie Sanders and his organizations (Just Us Democrats, Brand New Congress, We’re Revolting Our Revolution, etc.) Those entities have clearly failed to take over or significantly change the party despite a few primary successes (and most of these have proven to be pointless or Pyrrhic). Therefore, since the Democrats don’t have their preferred message, they must have NO message!

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:31:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:32:09pm

re: #299 fern01

As I said - that’s fine - but the post, as I read it, was critical of her getting pregnant without a husband. It really hurts me to see young women attacked for being pregnant “outside of wedlock”. There is little particularly fine about much of “wedlock” - especially for women.

Understood. I read ‘like Bristol Palin’ to mean moralizing while violating the morals she’s pushing on others.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:32:21pm

re: #302 fern01

If there is a best of the bunch it is Willow. She went to school, got a job & recently married. Was rarely part of the grift other than being dragged along by the rest of them

Yeah Willow seems to have had that one incident where she acted like a homophobic idiot but she’s out of the news other than that. Bristol just seems to be a nasty person like her mom especially when it comes to the Obamas which really pisses me off because then candidate Obama pointed out “Hey my mom was an unwed mother herself, leave the girl alone.”

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:32:30pm

re: #278 Amory Blaine

Ratfucking POS says what.

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Glenn reminding us yet again why few people outside of the Bro ranks have anything positive to say about him:

I’m a tool

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:32:40pm

re: #305 Blind Frog Belly White

Understood. I read ‘like Bristol Palin’ to mean moralizing while violating the morals she’s pushing on others.

Do as I say not as I do.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:32:50pm

re: #259 makeitstop

I think that’s what OA meant, rather than ‘it doesn’t matter who you vote for.’

Thank you…I was corn-fused. I put that up because Mattand wanted a general Vote Democrat ad.

Bloomberg provided it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:34:35pm

I must confess that I got annoyed when some of my fellow liberals in the Bush years ragged on Jenna and Barbara for their underaged drinking. Yes, they probably did act immature but I did too and underaged drank. Plus I think both Barbara and especially Jenna seem like genuinely, down to earth people with good hearts. Their father was an awful President and I don’t approve of his rehabilitation in recent years but Laura and the girls are fine.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:34:52pm

re: #286 fern01

Days should be passed when we attack single women for having babes. Takes 2 people to make a babe and it is usually the woman, not the man who takes on the task of raising the child. Lots of negative things can be said about Bristol - this should not be one of them.

It’s not the getting, it’s not the having, it’s the hypocrisy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:36:36pm

LOL, she is being dragged in the comments.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:36:50pm

“Eventually”

I think Trump is expecting it to work like business, where he encountered opposition at first, but eventually everyone avoided him but the few who liked him, allowing him to conclude that ‘everybody loves me’!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:37:50pm

Regarding KSU gun girl, she rubs me the wrong way because she went to NYC, a city that although I don’t or have not lived there has a special place for me since I visit frequently and I have cousins from there. For her to just trash it like that and her whole smug attitude is just obnoxious as is her whole claim to fame.You can’t tell me that if she were a black girl or especially a black male and she posed with guns the way she does that the conservatives who applaud her would find it okay. And that really is the crux of what gets me about gun nuts like her, Dana Loesch, and others.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:38:15pm

re: #313 Blind Frog Belly White

“Eventually”

I think Trump is expecting it to work like business, where he encountered opposition at first, but eventually everyone avoided him but the few who liked him, allowing him to conclude that ‘everybody loves me’!

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Bullshit Donny. You have no desire for unity. You desire absolute power.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:39:09pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

I must confess that I got annoyed when some of my fellow liberals in the Bush years ragged on Jenna and Barbara for their underaged drinking. Yes, they probably did act immature but I did too and underaged drank. Plus I think both Barbara and especially Jenna seem like genuinely, down to earth people with good hearts. Their father was an awful President and I don’t approve of his rehabilitation in recent years but Laura and the girls are fine.

I wonder what some would have thought of Susan Ford… I seem to recall a story of her speeding out of the White House grounds in her Mustang without the Secret Service. And then she had the audacity to do the bump and the hustle at her senior prom (which happened to be held at the White House).

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:39:12pm

re: #299 fern01

As I said - that’s fine - but the post, as I read it, was critical of her getting pregnant without a husband. It really hurts me to see young women attacked for being pregnant “outside of wedlock”. There is little particularly fine about much of “wedlock” - especially for women.

You misread my intent. I was not snarking on the possibility that Kaitlin could have a baby before marriage, but that she’d possibly be just as hypocritical as Bristol. I frankly could care less whether a baby is born before or after marriage, or with or without marriage.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:39:14pm
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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:39:56pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

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I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

I can tell you the fate of Kent State gun girl.

It will be exactly the same as Hobby Lobby Holly.

The job of being a young good looking gal who is solely around to be a dick to the liberals has a short life span.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:40:08pm

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

Not to be lookist, but unless she scores something as a Talking Blonde Head in right wing media, I’d say she’ll have to get a real job. Take away the gun, and she’s pretty much generic.

Which makes her a perfect Queen of the Incels.

Think about that dynamic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:40:28pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

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I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

She’d be laughed off of Pornhub.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:40:44pm

re: #316 KGxvi

I wonder what some would have thought of Susan Ford… I seem to recall a story of her speeding out of the White House grounds in her Mustang without the Secret Service. And then she had the audacity to do the bump and the hustle at her senior prom (which happened to be held at the White House).

Didn’t one of Jerry’s sons also smoke bud with Willie Nelson in the WH? As you know, my family’s been here in the DC area for some time. I believe my Dad or one of his friends got rejected for a dance by either Susan Ford or Maria Shriver.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:41:11pm

re: #303 Brian J.

This is what’s behind a lot of the last few days’ articles downplaying the Democrats’ chances. Nearly every journalist (and Glenn and Matt) covering the Democratic Party on a regular basis is strongly left-wing and supported the efforts of Bernie Sanders and his organizations (Just Us Democrats, Brand New Congress, We’re Revolting Our Revolution, etc.) Those entities have clearly failed to take over or significantly change the party despite a few primary successes (and most of these have proven to be pointless or Pyrrhic). Therefore, since the Democrats don’t have their preferred message, they must have NO message!

The DNC’s winning in the way it has again and again since the 80s: Promoting a liberal but pragmatic agenda of protecting what we’re achieved while working to expand upon that. The Bros are pissed something fierce because they thought that losing 2016 was going to lead to a major realignment in the party, with the old-line Dems being marginalized in favor of younger “revolutionaries” who’d promote a hard-left approach.

Their biggest sticking point is that Nancy is looking likely to return to the Speakership, when they have helped the GOP in portraying her as a symbol of all that is wrong with the DNC.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:41:19pm

re: #318 Joe Bacon 🌹

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“The Word became flesh…”

So…much…flesh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:41:34pm

re: #319 bd(soros funded)

I can tell you the fate of Kent State gun girl.

It will be exactly the same as Hobby Lobby Holly.

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The job of being a young good looking gal who is solely around to be a dick to the liberals has a short life span.

Tomi Lahren will find this out eventually too as will Laura Loomer. It’s honestly pretty sad that there seems to be a cottage industry of this.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:42:15pm

re: #323 Targetpractice

The DNC’s winning in the way it has again and again since the 80s: Promoting a liberal but pragmatic agenda of protecting what we’re achieved while working to expand upon that. The Bros are pissed something fierce because they thought that losing 2016 was going to lead to a major realignment in the party, with the old-line Dems being marginalized in favor of younger “revolutionaries” who’d promote a hard-left approach.

Their biggest sticking point is that Nancy is looking likely to return to the Speakership, when they have helped the GOP in portraying her as a symbol of all that is wrong with the DNC.

I should say this but Trump’s fuck ups on trade are proving Bernie wrong too. If he runs in 2020, one of his opponents would be prudent to point that out.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:42:27pm

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, she is being dragged in the comments.

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Hey for 30 bux a month you’ll get an autographed photo every month.

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KGxvi  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:42:32pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

Didn’t one of Jerry’s sons also smoke bud with Willie Nelson in the WH? As you know, my family’s been here in the DC area for some time. I believe my Dad or one of his friends got rejected for a dance by either Susan Ford or Maria Shriver.

Not sure… but senior prom at the White House is something that should happen every year.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:42:49pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Bullshit Donny. You have no desire for unity. You desire absolute power.

It’s somewhere in the middle. Donny feels as all authoritarian leaders do: The nation should unite…around him. And those who refuse are a danger to the nation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:44:00pm

re: #319 bd(soros funded)

I can tell you the fate of Kent State gun girl.

It will be exactly the same as Hobby Lobby Holly.

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The job of being a young good looking gal who is solely around to be a dick to the liberals has a short life span.

Remember Hobby Lobby Holly got caught cheating on her hubby and it was all downhill from there!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:44:48pm

re: #328 KGxvi

Not sure… but senior prom at the White House is something that should happen every year.

That’s pretty sweet. The Fords seemed and seem like a nice family. As someone who has had family members suffer with addiction, I admire the hell out of the fact that Betty was candid with the public about her struggles. She did NOT have to do that but she humanized it by showing that alcoholism and drug addiction is something that can impact anyone regardless of status. Plus I think Jerry really respected Betty as his equal in a way that few Presidents have their wives.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:44:59pm

re: #283 Charles Johnson

That was fun!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:44:59pm

re: #330 Joe Bacon 🌹

Remember Hobby Lobby Holly got caught cheating on her hubby and it was all downhill from there!

Oops.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:45:06pm

re: #320 ObserverArt

Which makes her a perfect Queen of the Incels.

Think about that dynamic.

🤢🤢🤢🤮

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Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:45:11pm

re: #296 wheat-dogg

Bristol deserves scorn for being a hypocrite, not because she had a baby before getting married — more than once.

She came up with the term “born again virgin”, then got pregnant again OOW.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:45:23pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Regarding KSU gun girl, she rubs me the wrong way because she went to NYC, a city that although I don’t or have not lived there has a special place for me since I visit frequently and I have cousins from there. For her to just trash it like that and her whole smug attitude is just obnoxious as is her whole claim to fame.You can’t tell me that if she were a black girl or especially a black male and she posed with guns the way she does that the conservatives who applaud her would find it okay. And that really is the crux of what gets me about gun nuts like her, Dana Loesch, and others.

She strikes me as someone inauthentic. She latches on to the most common conservative bugaboos — NYV is filthy, gun control is bad — and then tries to make bank on them. It all seems forced and insincere. She probably had a great time in NYC, because why else would she go there? The negative tweets were just to get clicks and follows. Ditto the open carry nonsense at Kent State, who told her, “Girl, you graduated. Get off the campus,” and she makes it into infringement of her 2nd Amendment rights.

Grasping at straws, she is.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:45:30pm

re: #304 Kilroy was here

I just…. I…

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OK I get it, GO VOTE but cheebus that song is awful.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:45:37pm

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Tomi Lahren will find this out eventually too as will Laura Loomer. It’s honestly pretty sad that there seems to be a cottage industry of this.

The wingnut minor leagues are a cutthroat place. There are not a lot of openings and only so many female broadcasters at FoxNews turn 30 and have to retire.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:46:51pm

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Bullshit Donny. You have no desire for unity. You desire absolute power.

unity is where everyone agrees with him

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:47:01pm

re: #336 wheat-dogg

She strikes me as someone inauthentic. She latches on to the most common conservative bugaboos — NYV is filthy, gun control is bad — and then tries to make bank on them. It all seems forced and insincere. She probably had a great time in NYC, because why else would she go there? The negative tweets were just to get clicks and follows. Ditto the open carry nonsense at Kent State, who told her, “Girl, you graduated. Get off the campus,” and she makes it into infringement of her 2nd Amendment rights.

Grasping at straws, she is.

Yeah that’s it. She’s definitely pandering and it couldn’t be more obvious and hell yeah she had a good time in NYC. Anyone can have a good time in NYC. That’s why even Gavin and his weird boys hang out there.She is just so artificial.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:47:37pm

re: #330 Joe Bacon 🌹

Remember Hobby Lobby Holly got caught cheating on her hubby and it was all downhill from there!

Our long lost buddy Chuckie spilled that scoop……good times…..good times…..

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:47:48pm

re: #338 bd(soros funded)

The wingnut minor leagues are a cutthroat place. There are not a lot of openings and only so many female broadcasters at FoxNews turn 30 and have to retire.

I really loved the Sarah Silverman take on this. I was dying. Loved that Lawrence O’Donnell made a cameo in it as himself too.

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delilah  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:48:30pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Ohhh. Thanks!

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:49:58pm

re: #298 dangerman

home of the Y bridge known in song and story

I’ve driven over that a few times. I would never have expected anyone talking about the Zanesville Y Bridge here at LGF.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:51:10pm

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Regarding KSU gun girl, she rubs me the wrong way because she went to NYC, a city that although I don’t or have not lived there has a special place for me since I visit frequently and I have cousins from there. For her to just trash it like that and her whole smug attitude is just obnoxious as is her whole claim to fame.You can’t tell me that if she were a black girl or especially a black male and she posed with guns the way she does that the conservatives who applaud her would find it okay. And that really is the crux of what gets me about gun nuts like her, Dana Loesch, and others.

I predict there is a male figure directing her career. It might be totally worth his time to get his jollies off at all the idiots looking at his girl’s ass and legs.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:52:12pm

I like how the llama gets in like it’s perfectly normal for a llama to ride in the back of a car.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:52:44pm

re: #311 MsJ

It’s not the getting, it’s not the having, it’s the hypocrisy.

As I read it - it was the having a babe out of wedlock. The rest may well not have happened if she had not been in the public eye and/or not the child of a grifting mother.

Edit: I’ve been told I read the post incorrectly so I will exit the conversation before I begin to be seen as a palin fan - heaven forbid.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:54:05pm

re: #345 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I predict there is a male figure directing her career. It might be totally worth his time to get his jollies off at all the idiots looking at his girl’s ass and legs.

Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:54:31pm

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, she is being dragged in the comments.

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Heh…they are killing her. I get the feeling she doesn’t care, she has young proud wingnuts to titillate.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:56:51pm

re: #349 ObserverArt

Heh…they are killing her. I get the feeling she doesn’t care, she has young proud wingnuts to titillate.

She gets attention and retweets. That’s the aim.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 4:57:49pm

re: #350 wheat-dogg

She gets attention and retweets. That’s the aim.

And feeds the conservative victimhood complex.

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ipsos  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:00:04pm

re: #344 ObserverArt

I’ve driven over that a few times. I would never have expected anyone talking about the Zanesville Y Bridge here at LGF.

I drove over it earlier this year!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:00:11pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Kent State gun girl is trying a new tactic to attract attention. Blue Painter suggests her next career move.

I’m not sure she’d be successful in softcore porn, because she’s not that hot. 15 minutes would be the length of her career there.

Back to Wingnut Welfare though, as featured here previously.

Conservative Pundit Barbies | I Love You, America on Hulu

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:00:28pm

re: #312 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, she is being dragged in the comments.

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She just looks so angry. I’m incapable of finding that attractive.

Same with Dana Loesch. Any natural attractiveness is negated by that perpetual dour face.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:01:48pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

And feeds the conservative victimhood complex.

I was surprised to see S.E. Cupp become a somewhat rational human being, after being the previous version of the Tomi Lahren character. Cupp used to do the same kind of “own the libs” shit than Lahren does now.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:04:06pm

Rep. Steve King says he hopes Supreme Court Justices Sotomayor and Kagan ‘will elope to Cuba’

At an appearance in Hampton, Iowa, King was discussing the Supreme Court and said that he was optimistic that “we’ll have a 7-2 court” after Tuesday’s midterms, according to Weekly Standard assistant opinion editor Adam Rubenstein.

King added that perhaps “Kagan and Sotomayor will elope to Cuba,” referring to President Barack Obama’s two Supreme Court appointments.

washingtonpost.com

I so want this asshat to lose tomorrow.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:04:16pm

re: #340 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s it. She’s definitely pandering and it couldn’t be more obvious and hell yeah she had a good time in NYC. Anyone can have a good time in NYC. That’s why even Gavin and his weird boys hang out there.She is just so artificial.

If you don’t have a good time in NYC, that’s on you. There’s enough to do there to amuse, literally, anyone.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:06:22pm

re: #354 makeitstop

She just looks so angry. I’m incapable of finding that attractive.

Same with Dana Loesch. Any natural attractiveness is negated by that perpetual dour face.

I think both of them are trying to suggest their positions and attitudes are crucial to the survival of the human race. Smiling or acting human would nullify the gravity of the situation.

I noticed that Dana recently has adopted a schoolmarm look, complete with (lensless?) glasses and a hair bun, for her TV appearances.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:07:28pm

But will they get past the Space Force?

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:07:31pm

re: #324 Blind Frog Belly White

“The Word became flesh…”

So…much…flesh.

The Word became flab.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:07:47pm

re: #352 ipsos

I drove over it earlier this year!

We’re you on Rt 40 “The National Road?”

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:08:06pm

Iowa Governors race is a toss up.. so the incumbent R does this.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:08:26pm

re: #357 MsJ

If you don’t have a good time in NYC, that’s on you. There’s enough to do there to amuse, literally, anyone.

Anyone who willingly goes to NYC, then complains about the litter and the noise, should just STFU. It’s not like New Yorkers keep all the negatives a secret. We complain about it constantly.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:11:28pm

re: #355 wheat-dogg

I was surprised to see S.E. Cupp become a somewhat rational human being, after being the previous version of the Tomi Lahren character. Cupp used to do the same kind of “own the libs” shit than Lahren does now.

Yeah I’m not an admirer of Cupp’s by any means but she has some maturity about her that the others we’ve discussed lack.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:11:30pm

re: #359 The Vicious Babushka

But will they get past the Space Force?

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At least it didn’t stop by to talk to some whales.

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ipsos  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:14:10pm

re: #361 ObserverArt

We’re you on Rt 40 “The National Road?”

Mostly on 70, but had to detour to show the kids cool stuff.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:14:26pm

re: #331 HappyWarrior

That’s pretty sweet. The Fords seemed and seem like a nice family. As someone who has had family members suffer with addiction, I admire the hell out of the fact that Betty was candid with the public about her struggles. She did NOT have to do that but she humanized it by showing that alcoholism and drug addiction is something that can impact anyone regardless of status. Plus I think Jerry really respected Betty as his equal in a way that few Presidents have their wives.

I was impressed when Betty Ford came out and made that admission, and moreover, worked afterward to deal with addictions in others after the Fords were out of the White House.

Obama’s Commerce Secretary John Bryson and Supreme Court Justice John Roberts both have epilepsy though, and neither will talk about it other than to say they have it.

It’s estimated 3.7 million people in the USA have epilepsy (almost twice my state’s population). Both men are in positions to bring attention to the issue.

I get it is their right to be private about that, but it still leaves those of us out here who aren’t in high government positions dealing with questions like “is it safe for you to go outside” or “can you work.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:15:00pm

re: #355 wheat-dogg

I was surprised to see S.E. Cupp become a somewhat rational human being, after being the previous version of the Tomi Lahren character. Cupp used to do the same kind of “own the libs” shit than Lahren does now.

When did SE Cupp become somewhat rational? I missed that part.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:16:55pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’m not an admirer of Cupp’s by any means but she has some maturity about her that the others we’ve discussed lack.

My money is that S.E. Has a riding crop somewhere in her wardrobe.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:17:00pm

re: #368 Anymouse 🌹

When did SE Cupp become somewhat rational? I missed that part.

She’s not a Trumper, and has openly attacked him and his policies on air and Twitter. She’s still a conservative, but not a crazy-ass one.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:20:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:20:56pm

re: #367 Anymouse 🌹

I was impressed when Betty Ford came out and made that admission, and moreover, worked afterward to deal with addictions in others after the Fords were out of the White House.

Obama’s Commerce Secretary John Bryson and Supreme Court Justice John Roberts both have epilepsy though, and neither will talk about it other than to say they have it.

It’s estimated 3.7 million people in the USA have epilepsy (almost twice my state’s population). Both men are in positions to bring attention to the issue.

I get it is their right to be private about that, but it still leaves those of us out here who aren’t in high government positions dealing with questions like “is it safe for you to go outside” or “can you work.”

Yeah. Like I get being private about it but when you’re candid like Betty was, it just makes a difference for people. That said I wonder how many prominent elected officials have children on the autistic spectrum. I remember there was speculation Barron Trump might be ASD.

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:21:14pm

re: #3 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Great time to release it - no-one will see it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:23:36pm

re: #354 makeitstop

She just looks so angry. I’m incapable of finding that attractive.

Same with Dana Loesch. Any natural attractiveness is negated by that perpetual dour face.

Yeah, but if Dana smiled, you might not take her warnings of the coming apocalypse seriously.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:24:13pm

re: #370 wheat-dogg

She’s not a Trumper, and has openly attacked him and his policies on air and Twitter. She’s still a conservative, but not a crazy-ass one.

Isn’t she more a libertarian than a traditional Republican. According to her Wiki page, she has supported SSM and the Log Cabin Republicans for years. Too often in the past she spoke in favor of conservative views, but I don’t think she was ever a vocal ideologue.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:24:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:25:24pm

re: #370 wheat-dogg

She’s not a Trumper, and has openly attacked him and his policies on air and Twitter. She’s still a conservative, but not a crazy-ass one.

While I don’t want to get into a battle over a religious joke, I would note that for FOX News’s token atheist, she sure seems to concern-troll for religion a lot. (Atheists should pray to God was a good one.) She said on her very short show on MSNBC that though she’s an atheist, she “would never vote for one, because she can’t vote for someone who believes in nothing” (one of the most common Christian apologia fails out there). Almost without exception, the people who make that claim (atheists believe in nothing) are Christians.

She accuses Bill Nye for “bullying” conservatives on global warming.

And “not a Trumper” is a pretty low bar.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:26:10pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:27:34pm

re: #368 Anymouse 🌹

When did SE Cupp become somewhat rational? I missed that part.

She’s been pretty solidly anti-Trump for a while now.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:27:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:29:14pm

re: #377 Anymouse 🌹

While I don’t want to get into a battle over a religious joke, I would note that for FOX News’s token atheist, she sure seems to concern-troll for religion a lot. (Atheists should pray to God was a good one.) She said on her very short show on MSNBC that though she’s an atheist, she “would never vote for one, because she can’t vote for someone who believes in nothing” (one of the most common Christian apologia fails out there). Almost without exception, the people who make that claim (atheists believe in nothing) are Christians.

She accuses Bill Nye for “bullying” conservatives on global warming.

And “not a Trumper” is a pretty low bar.

And yet surprisingly few manage to completely clear it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:29:24pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

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Come on Krysten.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:30:44pm

re: #380 Charles Johnson

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I’m rather surprised he hasn’t already.

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ObserverArt  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:30:47pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

argh

It is Arizona and she is running against another woman who was in the military. That is a tough fight.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:33:02pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

What the heck did she make a statement like that for? How about “this is a massive waste of money and resources. We should be looking for smart solutions, not knee-jerk self-serving ones.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:33:29pm

Somebody posted on FB that “Tonight is like Christmas Eve and the night before a colonoscopy combined”.

That about sums it up.

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ipsos  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:34:16pm

re: #384 ObserverArt

Sinema isn’t a perfect Democratic candidate. I find maybe 15% of what she does annoying and maybe 5% really bad.

I find about 85% of what McSally does and stands for to be annoying.

I’ll take Sinema for the win if we can get her. We need the seat more than we need perfection.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:34:46pm

re: #386 Blind Frog Belly White

Somebody posted on FB that “Tonight is like Christmas Eve and the night before a colonoscopy combined”.

That about sums it up.

No matter how good tomorrow is, we’re still taking it up the ass?

//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:35:59pm

re: #388 Targetpractice

No matter how good tomorrow is, we’re still taking it up the ass?

//

Definitely not going to YOUR house for Christmas….

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Brian J.  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:36:07pm

re: #326 HappyWarrior

I should say this but Trump’s fuck ups on trade are proving Bernie wrong too. If he runs in 2020, one of his opponents would be prudent to point that out.

Yes, we need a positive pro-free trade message, not kowtowing to those chanting against the Tee Pee Pee who couldn’t expand the acronym.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:36:38pm

Demagogue trying to scare his followers, who in this photo all seem pretty secure about being white and clueless.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:36:54pm

re: #387 ipsos

Sinema isn’t a perfect Democratic candidate. I find maybe 15% of what she does annoying and maybe 5% really bad.

I find about 85% of what McSally does and stands for to be annoying.

I’ll take Sinema for the win if we can get her. We need the seat more than we need perfection.

Whatever it takes. A flawed victory is preferable to a loss with a “perfect” candidate. She has to go where she thinks her voters are — let’s hope she hasn’t driven away supporters through this position.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:37:32pm

re: #368 Anymouse 🌹

When did SE Cupp become somewhat rational? I missed that part.

You and me both. Fuck her. She still spews the party line.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:38:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:39:00pm

re: #390 Brian J.

Yes, we need a positive pro-free trade message, not kowtowing to those chanting against the Tee Pee Pee who couldn’t expand the acronym.

Right. I mean I get the disappointment about jobs leaving. But Clinton and not Sanders had the right approach on that issue. And no one gives her a damn bit of credit.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:39:12pm

re: #389 Blind Frog Belly White

Definitely not going to YOUR house for Christmas….

Knowing my work schedule the last 3 years, I doubt even I will be home for Christmas.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:39:25pm

Has anyone eaten a diakon raddish? What do they taste like raw and cooked?

Anyone?

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:39:37pm

re: #394 Charles Johnson

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All glory to the Hypnotoad…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:41:00pm

I think people are just frustrated that Synema echoed the bs Trump is on this issue. I still want her to win obviously but I guess I’m used to border state Dems like Beto who don’t pander on this issue.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:41:07pm

re: #386 Blind Frog Belly White

Somebody posted on FB that “Tonight is like Christmas Eve and the night before a colonoscopy combined”.

That about sums it up.

Yeah but, you prepare for a coloscopy several days in advance.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:41:35pm

re: #387 ipsos

Sinema isn’t a perfect Democratic candidate. I find maybe 15% of what she does annoying and maybe 5% really bad.

I find about 85% of what McSally does and stands for to be annoying.

I’ll take Sinema for the win if we can get her. We need the seat more than we need perfection.

No doubt about that but we’re allowed to gripe too.She’s better than Manchin though.

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Brian J.  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:42:39pm

re: #395 HappyWarrior

Right. I mean I get the disappointment about jobs leaving. But Clinton and not Sanders had the right approach on that issue. And no one gives her a damn bit of credit.

Mostly because she didn’t give herself enough credit. She should have told Sanders that he’d be treated with respect like other defeated candidates, but she instead allowed him to write much of the party platform and to eliminate superdelegates’ first-ballot votes because they didn’t endorse him (because they knew he wasn’t fit for the White House).

The Democrats need to affirm themselves to a liberal, pragmatic set of policies without veering into “socialism.” No “Fight for 15” where that would cost jobs (which is almost everywhere outside a few cities with very high costs of living). No Emm Four Ay. No You Bee Eye.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:44:02pm

re: #402 Brian J.

Mostly because she didn’t give herself enough credit. She should have told Sanders that he’d be treated with respect like other defeated candidates, but she instead allowed him to write much of the party platform and to eliminate superdelegates’ first-ballot votes because they didn’t endorse him (because they knew he wasn’t fit for the White House).

The Democrats need to affirm themselves to a liberal, pragmatic set of policies without veering into “socialism.” No “Fight for 15” where that would cost jobs (which is almost everywhere outside a few cities with very high costs of living). No Emm Four Ay. No You Bee Eye.

I really think should he run this next time, Sanders is in for a rude awakening. And I’m glad because there are a lot of legitimate attacks that one can make on him from the left. Steve King singing his praises on his immigration record would be something I would pounce on as would his hypocrisy on guns.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:44:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:45:05pm

I’m looking forward to seeing Corey Stewart be a big drag on the Republicans as a whole here in Va. You don’t see Comstock-Stewart signs but you sure as hell do see a hell alot of Wexton-Kaine signs.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:45:59pm

re: #397 MsJ

Has anyone eaten a diakon raddish? What do they taste like raw and cooked?

Anyone?

Less sharp than the little red radishes common in the USA. I’ve had daikon pickled and cooked, but never raw, though. They are crunchy (unless over cooked) and quite mild.

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Brian J.  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:46:04pm

re: #403 HappyWarrior

I really think should he run this next time, Sanders is in for a rude awakening. And I’m glad because there are a lot of legitimate attacks that one can make on him from the left. Steve King singing his praises on his immigration record would be something I would pounce on as would his hypocrisy on guns.

The only reason I would want him or Elizabeth Warren to run is to watch them destroy each other. I still have the feeling that Mueller and/or the FBI will knock on Bernie’s door first, but we’ll see.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:46:20pm

SE Cupp quotes:

Feminism’s ultimate success is that we don’t need it anymore. (2011)

“Losing Our Religion: The Liberal Media’s Attack on Christianity.” (Title of one of her books, 2010, five reprints)

“I aspire to be a person of faith one day.” (C-Span, 2009)

Obama’s Nostalgia for the GOP of Yore is Hypocritical (column, Deseret News, Sept 16, 2018, full of the same boilerplate nonsense we’ve been hearing from conservatives since Obama announced he was running for President, with added honey for the Beehive State as a push for Mormons to vote for Romney in this election)

SE Cupp is really no different than any other Republican pundit, and condemning Trump in no way absolves her of helping his rise in the first place. Her schtick (such as it is) is she’s an atheist (who wants you to pray to God, thinks this should be a Christian state, &c), and she wears cool glasses like Rick Perry.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:46:20pm

re: #404 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:46:40pm

re: #404 Charles Johnson

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I don’t know how Farkahan has this image of being on the left. McCain in 2000 drew a false equivalency between him and Falwell/Robertson. Farrakahan never influenced the left the way Falwell and the religious right did the GOP. It was still an act of courage to go after the religious right though because no Republican has done it since then in the primaries for President.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:47:13pm

re: #354 makeitstop

Same with Dana Loesch. Any natural attractiveness is negated by that perpetual dour face.

My friend would jokingly refer to that as her resting bitch face.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:47:45pm

Agreeing with Trumps troop buildup on the border is fucking pathetic for a so called democrat. Is she a reliable no vote for pre-existing conditions too? Hard pass.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:47:45pm

re: #408 Anymouse 🌹

SE Cupp quotes:

Feminism’s ultimate success is that we don’t need it anymore. (2011)

“Losing Our Religion: The Liberal Media’s Attack on Christianity.” (Title of one of her books, 2010, five reprints)

“I aspire to be a person of faith one day.” (C-Span, 2009)

Obama’s Nostalgia for the GOP of Yore is Hypocritical (column, Deseret News, Sept 16, 2018, full of the same boilerplate nonsense we’ve been hearing from conservatives since Obama announced he was running for President, with added honey for the Beehive State as a push for Mormons to vote for Romney in this election)

SE Cupp is really no different than any other Republican pundit, and condemning Trump in no way absolves her of helping his rise in the first place. Her schtick (such as it is) is she’s an atheist (who wants you to pray to God, thinks this should be a Christian state, &c), and she wears cool glasses like Rick Perry.

Okay I’ll knock but what’s wrong with number 3? I’m agnostic myself. I don’t see anything wrong with someone who sees themselves as a skeptic wanting to have God or whatever proven to them. I’m happy agnostic myself but we all have our own spiritual journey. I think you’re overanalyzing what was said about her big time which was that she’s reasonable sane compared to Tomi Lahren. It’s a low bar but perhaps that was the point.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:47:53pm

re: #391 wheat-dogg

Demagogue trying to scare his followers, who in this photo all seem pretty secure about being white and clueless.

Democrats are assaulting sovereignty now? What, are we invading with an army? What the heck does that even mean?

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Amory Blaine  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:48:20pm

re: #359 The Vicious Babushka

This looks like a giant space doobie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:49:05pm

re: #411 Shropshire Slasher

My friend would jokingly refer to that as her resting bitch face.

You know, when you were a kid, and you made a funny face, and your Mom would say, “What if your face froze that way?”

That’s Dana. She made the angry, self-righteous face one day, and it froze that way.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:49:12pm

re: #408 Anymouse 🌹

SE Cupp quotes:

Feminism’s ultimate success is that we don’t need it anymore. (2011)

“Losing Our Religion: The Liberal Media’s Attack on Christianity.” (Title of one of her books, 2010, five reprints)

“I aspire to be a person of faith one day.” (C-Span, 2009)

Obama’s Nostalgia for the GOP of Yore is Hypocritical (column, Deseret News, Sept 16, 2018, full of the same boilerplate nonsense we’ve been hearing from conservatives since Obama announced he was running for President, with added honey for the Beehive State as a push for Mormons to vote for Romney in this election)

SE Cupp is really no different than any other Republican pundit, and condemning Trump in no way absolves her of helping his rise in the first place. Her schtick (such as it is) is she’s an atheist (who wants you to pray to God, thinks this should be a Christian state, &c), and she wears cool glasses like Rick Perry.

Perhaps I was too generous in calling Cupp sane, but I give her some credit for rejecting Trumpism. It’s a small step away from craziness, granted, but I’ll take what I can get. Likewise, noting that Jonah G dissing Tomi Lahren for being vapid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:49:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:51:00pm

re: #417 wheat-dogg

Perhaps I was too generous in calling Cupp sane, but I give her some credit for rejecting Trumpism. It’s a small step away from craziness, granted, but I’ll take what I can get. Likewise, noting that Jonah G dissing Tomi Lahren for being vapid.

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Jonah as i recall and Goddamn I hate giving him credit went after Coulter’s idiotic characterization of 1950’s Dems as traitors and communists by pointing out that Truman was very much a Cold Warrior. He’s still awful just like Cupp is but I get what your point is, there are degrees of RWNJs. I can as much as I hate teh guy put up with Glenn Beck for example more than I can Sean Hannity.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:52:17pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What’s wrong with that Kemp? I thought you supported the 2nd amendment. Oh wait. You’re another right wing hypocrite just like that fraud Reagan who has a prolbem with black guys open carrying.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:52:21pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:52:26pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

I don’t know how Farkahan has this image of being on the left. McCain in 2000 drew a false equivalency between him and Falwell/Robertson. Farrakahan never influenced the left the way Falwell and the religious right did the GOP. It was still an act of courage to go after the religious right though because no Republican has done it since then in the primaries for President.

How does he have the image of being on the left? Pull out the Republican Leftist Colour Chart.

That’s it.

Pound that message for decades (Farrakhan is a leftist), and the conservative faithful adopt it into their religion.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:53:43pm

re: #422 Anymouse 🌹

How does he have the image of being on the left? Pull out the Republican Leftist Colour Chart.

That’s it.

Pound that message for decades (Farrakhan is a leftist), and the conservative faithful adopt it into their religion.

Sure. But it’s not just conservatives who buy that he’s a lefty. There is nothing lefty at all about Farrakahan’s message especially socially.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:53:48pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

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Jonah as i recall and Goddamn I hate giving him credit went after Coulter’s idiotic characterization of 1950’s Dems as traitors and communists by pointing out that Truman was very much a Cold Warrior. He’s still awful just like Cupp is but I get what your point is, there are degrees of RWNJs. I can as much as I hate teh guy put up with Glenn Beck for example more than I can Sean Hannity.

Beck’s latest scam is cryptocurrencies. He’s hooked up with Teeka Tiwari, a self-described investment guru, to get people to pay lots of $$ to get their advice on investing in Bitcoin, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:54:19pm
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freetoken  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:54:27pm

re: #397 MsJ

Has anyone eaten a diakon raddish? What do they taste like raw and cooked?

Don’t recommend eating deacons.

I think you meant daikon. Standard of the Japanese diet. Mostly tasteless, in Japan they are usually enhanced with flavors of some type.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:55:18pm

re: #424 wheat-dogg

Beck’s latest scam is cryptocurrencies. He’s hooked up with Teeka Tiwari, a self-described investment guru, to get people to pay lots of $$ to get their advice on investing in Bitcoin, etc.

Is that so. Doesn’t surprise me. Don’t get me wrong. Beck can go fuck himself for his false Nazi equivalencies he made in the Obama years but he seems more willing to listen on some issues than some of these guys are. There are degrees of RWNJ. Beck is just a 8 on the shit sandwich spectrum whereas someone like Hannity lands a 9.5.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:55:43pm

*blink*

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:56:23pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

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No intimidation there. No sir.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:56:38pm

re: #406 wheat-dogg

Less sharp than the little red radishes common in the USA. I’ve had daikon pickled and cooked, but never raw, though. They are crunchy (unless over cooked) and quite mild.

Do they taste like anything an American might relate to? Like roasted red radishes taste kinda like roasted potatoes.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:56:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:57:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 5:58:23pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m waiting for Trump to trash Sully as “not a real hero.”

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:00:31pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

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Jonah as i recall and Goddamn I hate giving him credit went after Coulter’s idiotic characterization of 1950’s Dems as traitors and communists by pointing out that Truman was very much a Cold Warrior. He’s still awful just like Cupp is but I get what your point is, there are degrees of RWNJs. I can as much as I hate teh guy put up with Glenn Beck for example more than I can Sean Hannity.

We need to remember that RWNJs are not monolithic. Some are fervently in the Trumpist camp, while others recognize conservatism does not require Donald Trump as a leader. Still others see Trump as detrimental to their cause, because sooner or later Trumpism is going to implode and take the GOP down with it. I have little in common with S.E. Cupp or Jonah Goldberg. I don’t agree with their politics or attitudes at all, and I may characterize their statements as clueless, dumb or wrong, but they have some ability to be rational at times. A rational person can see Trump as a danger to democracy, and even to anyone not fully in his camp. Trumpists don’t see it at all, and won’t see it unless they happen to get caught in Trumpism’s crosshairs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:01:18pm
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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:01:41pm

Watch Mojo is doing a live get out the vote telethon. Starts at 6PM Pacific
Group was started by Michelle Obama

Telethon for America - Pledge to Vote, Live from YouTube Space LA

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mmmirele  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:02:17pm

Ah uhm, so my brother (picture earlier in this thread) had the police show up at the house after he told a vote canvasser asking for my mother to get off the property. Of course he called me and of course I couldn’t stop laughing. He wasn’t mad at me, he just wanted me to know about it.

I did explain to him that all these in person GOTV activities WORK. They get people to the polls. But it’s making him nuts and I completely understand. I was over there on Saturday and we were trying to watch a Godzilla movie. Holy crap, every 15 minutes, another phone call, recorded this, asking for mom that, etc. It was insane.

I can say this, the Arizona Democratic candidates are ON IT as far as GOTV is concerned, but not everyone cares about this like we do. So you get people like my brother, the registered Republican, who may or may not vote tomorrow, getting progressively more and more annoyed by people calling and showing up asking about our mom, the registered Democrat. I’m thinking there needs to be a reconsideration and maybe a consolidation of efforts, because they are pissing people off. (Oh, and road signs, can we talk about the visual clutter? That’s my pet peeve!)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:02:27pm
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Jay C  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:02:42pm

re: #414 Anymouse 🌹

Democrats are assaulting sovereignty now? What, are we invading with an army? What the heck does that even mean?

Naaah, standard Trumpian bullshit: Democrats aren’t jumping up to finance Building The Fucking Wall on the border, and don’t believe in shooting down unarmed refugees for target practice, so it’s an affront to “sovereignty”, or whatever shit they want the rubes to believe (which of course, they will).

If one wanted to expand the concept a little, Administration hacks would probably gas on about the UN, or “disadvantageous” trade deals, or a “strong America” (i.e. international bully) - but that’s probably too sophisticated a concept for the usual Trump Nuremberg Rally: “Democrats want a horde of brown criminals to rob, rape and murder decent (i.e. white) citizens” is a catchier theme.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:02:47pm

re: #434 wheat-dogg

We need to remember that RWNJs are not monolithic. Some are fervently in the Trumpist camp, while others recognize conservatism does not require Donald Trump as a leader. Still others see Trump as detrimental to their cause, because sooner or later Trumpism is going to implode and take the GOP down with it. I have little in common with S.E. Cupp or Jonah Goldberg. I don’t agree with their politics or attitudes at all, and I may characterize their statements as clueless, dumb or wrong, but they have some ability to be rational at times. A rational person can see Trump as a danger to democracy, and even to anyone not fully in his camp. Trumpists don’t see it at all, and won’t see it unless they happen to get caught in Trumpism’s crosshairs.

Right. You nailed what I was thinking.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:04:28pm

re: #437 mmmirele

Ah uhm, so my brother (picture earlier in this thread) had the police show up at the house after he told a vote canvasser asking for my mother to get off the property. Of course he called me and of course I couldn’t stop laughing. He wasn’t mad at me, he just wanted me to know about it.

I did explain to him that all these in person GOTV activities WORK. They get people to the polls. But it’s making him nuts and I completely understand. I was over there on Saturday and we were trying to watch a Godzilla movie. Holy crap, every 15 minutes, another phone call, recorded this, asking for mom that, etc. It was insane.

I can say this, the Arizona Democratic candidates are ON IT as far as GOTV is concerned, but not everyone cares about this like we do. So you get people like my brother, the registered Republican, who may or may not vote tomorrow, getting progressively more and more annoyed by people calling and showing up asking about our mom, the registered Democrat. I’m thinking there needs to be a reconsideration and maybe a consolidation of efforts, because they are pissing people off. (Oh, and road signs, can we talk about the visual clutter? That’s my pet peeve!)

He called the cops?!?!? As a canvassing volunteer, they have a right to be there even if there’s a no solicitors sign. Some more confident canvassers I know go through with those but I respect the signs even though some canvassers have told me they’ve actually had some nice conversations with no soliciting sign owners.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:04:41pm
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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:05:43pm

The fact is, the USA needs a multiplicity of political beliefs and attitudes to *be* the USA. While it would be great if everyone agreed with liberal values, in truth monolithic thinking and monolithic governments cannot survive for long. We need rational people to govern the country, and to debate its future. Trumpists are not those people.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:06:36pm

Well, it’s time to teach young minds. Carry on, people!

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:06:41pm

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:06:48pm

re: #442 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh no Abraham Lincoln and FDR were not nationalists dimwit. Lincoln opposed the Know Nothings and FDR championed the League of Nations and later the UN. Gandhi and Mandela were people who were oppressed by colonial rule who didn’t get a say in how their nation was run. You’re a fucking moron who really needs to read a fucking history book and stop appropriating people to support your racist bullshit agenda. Gandhi btw was in fact killed by a nationalist.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:07:28pm

re: #437 mmmirele

Move to upstate NY. You would hardly know there is an election tomorrow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:07:45pm

re: #391 wheat-dogg

Demagogue trying to scare his followers, who in this photo all seem pretty secure about being white and clueless.

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Republicans control all 3 branches of government but gosh darn it, it’s the Democrats fucking everything up around here!

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:08:14pm

I’m not optimistic because this is Texas after all, but it would be *SO SATISFYING* to see Ted Cruz get sent packing tomorrow. Especially by an exemplary Texas Democrat like Beto O’Rourke.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:08:16pm

re: #443 wheat-dogg

The fact is, the USA needs a multiplicity of political beliefs and attitudes to *be* the USA. While it would be great if everyone agreed with liberal values, in truth monolithic thinking and monolithic governments cannot survive for long. We need rational people to govern the country, and to debate its future. Trumpists are not those people.

Correct. Be nice though if the conservatives were an improvement over both Trumpists and IMO hacks like the people we’ve discussed.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:08:42pm

re: #437 mmmirele

…(Oh, and road signs, can we talk about the visual clutter? That’s my pet peeve!)

Spent the afternoon creating a shitload of visual clutter. Mapped them in, and will police them up on 7 Nov. Because signs near right-of-way are quasi-legal here, I only placed progressive arrays with existing signs for the Republican governor and Republican Secretary of State, then photographed them all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:08:50pm

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ), the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)—in coordination with federal, state, local, and private sector partners nationwide—are continuing efforts to protect our elections. Today, DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, DNI Dan Coats, and FBI Director Christopher Wray released the following joint statement:

Our agencies have been working in unprecedented ways to combat influence efforts and to support state and local officials in securing our elections, including efforts to harden election infrastructure against interference. Our goal is clear: ensure every vote is counted and counted correctly. At this time we have no indication of compromise of our nation’s election infrastructure that would prevent voting, change vote counts, or disrupt the ability to tally votes.

But Americans should be aware that foreign actors—and Russia in particular—continue to try to influence public sentiment and voter perceptions through actions intended to sow discord. They can do this by spreading false information about political processes and candidates, lying about their own interference activities, disseminating propaganda on social media, and through other tactics. The American public can mitigate these efforts by remaining informed, reporting suspicious activity, and being vigilant consumers of information, as discussed below.

The United States will not tolerate foreign interference in our elections from Russia, China, Iran, or other nations. As noted in a joint statement on October 19, 2018, such actions are a threat to our democracy, and identifying and preventing this interference is one of our highest priorities. On September 12, President Trump signed an executive order that makes clear the U.S. government will not hesitate to defend our electoral processes or punish those who attempt to undermine them.

Our agencies have been making preparations for nearly two years in advance of these elections and are closely engaged with officials on the ground to help them ensure the voting process is secure. Americans can rest assured that we will continue to stay focused on this mission long after polls have closed.

oh…

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mmmirele  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:09:27pm

re: #441 HappyWarrior

He called the cops?!?!? As a canvassing volunteer, they have a right to be there even if there’s a no solicitors sign. Some more confident canvassers I know go through with those but I respect the signs even though some canvassers have told me they’ve actually had some nice conversations with no soliciting sign owners.

No no no no! The canvasser called the cops on my brother! Who was in the house, behind the screen door and had asked her to leave. So the Mesa PD showed up and my brother had to explain what was going on, how they were asking for Mom, Mom is 78 years old and asleep on the couch and so on.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:09:51pm

re: #451 Decatur Deb

Spent the afternoon creating a shitload of visual clutter. Mapped them in, and will police them up on 7 Nov. Because signs near right-of-way are quasi-legal here, I only placed progressive arrays with existing signs for the Republican governor and Republican Secretary of State, then photographed them all.

Texas gives campaigns something like 48 hours after an election to get them picked up.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:10:14pm

re: #453 mmmirele

No no no no! The canvasser called the cops on my brother! Who was in the house, behind the screen door and had asked her to leave. So the Mesa PD showed up and my brother had to explain what was going on, how they were asking for Mom, Mom is 78 years old and asleep on the couch and so on.

Oh I’m sorry for my misunderstanding.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:11:19pm

I’m hoping Beto versus Cruz is like Jim Webb versus George Allen twelve years ago only with Beto not turning out to be a horse’s ass and a better Senator but with the whole knocking out a pompous racist right wing asshole.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:11:43pm

Also, re: Kaitlin Bennet

Does that girl ever smile? In every photo I see of her she looks like she is ready to kill someone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:12:40pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:12:49pm

re: #397 MsJ

Not a lot of flavor—just a bit vegetal—but raw it has just a little bit of that horseradish aftertaste, but much less heat and sharpness, than a red or black radish. Cooked its bland and generally takes on whatever it’s seasoned with. I haven’t roasted one, but stir-fried and stewed in a curry, it just becomes a starch.

Indeed, I get the impression its used for texture as often as flavor. Raw it’s very crisp but not woody, and makes a good garnish (shredded daikon is a topping equivalent in Japanese food to thin slices of red radish in Mexican). Cooked high heat it stays crunchy but doesn’t brown up as fast starchier vegetables. Cooked slow in liquid it doesn’t fall apart but it becomes soft, sort of like a turnip.

It’s also pickled about a dozen different ways, such that it’s comparable to a cucumber it application as much as a potato.

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Weaselone  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:13:18pm

re: #376 Charles Johnson

The fact that sane politicians have to humor this caravan BS is just a sign of that media members like Tara Palmeri suck at conveying anything approaching reality to the general public.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:13:40pm

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I dare FNC to tell me that they wouldn’t have freaked if Obama made an assine claim like this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:14:08pm

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:14:22pm

re: #454 Belafon

Texas gives campaigns something like 48 hours after an election to get them picked up.

Pretty much the same here, but signs in state DoT mowing areas are treated as ‘litter’. They do present a hazard if thrown, or if they interfere with line-of-sight. We are covering a bunch of jurisdictions in the congressional district, and rules vary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:15:48pm
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:16:39pm

If Beto wins and turns out to be a cannibal serial killer, that will be fine with me because he’s not Ted the fuck Cruz.

edit: These are not the droids you’re looking for. Move along.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:16:52pm

re: #418 Backwoods_Sleuth

Whatabout whatabout whatabout fiearfearfearfear … Hey Kemp, who endorsed the head of your party?

Boy it didn’t take long for all the farm team right wing fear blogs to pick up on that.

Kemp could do what Reagan did when scary black folk started open carrying guns: Ban open carry in Georgia. That should do the trick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:17:42pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:17:50pm

re: #465 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Tucker Carlson always has that perplexed look on his face th

If Beto wins and turns out to be a cannibal serial killer, that will be fine with me because he’s not Ted the fuck Cruz.

As long as you eat what you kill…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:17:54pm

re: #464 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jacob is such a big man he gets his parents to fight his fights for him.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:18:45pm

re: #459 The Ghost of a Flea

Cooked slow in liquid it doesn’t fall apart but it becomes soft, sort of like a turnip.

allow me to be the first to say: gross.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:18:50pm

re: #467 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I doubt he wonders.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:19:26pm

re: #468 Decatur Deb

As long as you eat what you kill…

And know the best alcohol to go with it.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:19:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:20:22pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:20:38pm

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is there a place such a mailer can be reported as voter intimidation?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:21:59pm

re: #475 Anymouse 🌹

Is there a place such a mailer can be reported as voter intimidation?

AG Sessions will get right on it.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:22:11pm

re: #435 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:22:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:22:26pm

re: #474 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This might actually have some substance if he weren’t pushing racist and nativist bullshit still. He’s full of shit. He regrets nothing except his failures.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:22:47pm

re: #477 Single-handed sailor

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Which is why I called Reagan a fraud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:23:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:24:47pm

re: #481 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So why the fuck are they going to the border? Oh wait, Trump is an insecure little man child who feels the need to look tough because he’s a chickenshit little coward who has never faced any real danger in his pathetic, little life.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:25:26pm

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

Buried in the replies:

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:27:04pm

re: #459 The Ghost of a Flea

Excellent! Thank you.

I’m thinking of slicing it on a mandolin and using it like scalloped potatoes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:33:43pm

re: #445 Belafon

Where did Breitbart get that picture? It’s odd, when I search for it, I do not find any actual news site carrying it.

— (((IntheNumbers)))

If you look carefully at the lower right corner of the sign, the corner of the sign disappears into the hood of the car.

Daily Caller posted it at 2:16 PM Eastern … but I can’t find a time on the Deadbart article.

CBS in Atlanta has the photo, and an article about the blow up on social media, along with a statement from Ms. Abrams:

“Stacey Abrams should immediately denounce the Black Panthers and their hateful record of racism. She should stand against and condemn their attempts to intimidate hardworking Georgia voters just days before the election.” - Ryan Mahoney, Kemp for Governor

However, Abram’s camp responded, saying it’s Brian Kemp who “posed for pictures with supporters wearing racist, hate-filled shirts and refused to denounce them.”

cbs46.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:35:17pm

re: #484 MsJ

I’ve really only cooked daikon in Asian dishes, so I cracked open Bittman’s How to Cook Everything Vegetarian and he views them as interchangeable with red radishes, including doing things like roasting them with butter and glazing them. He also suggested turnip as the alternative if cooking.

Hope it turns out good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:40:22pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

So why the fuck are they going to the border? Oh wait, Trump is an insecure little man child who feels the need to look tough because he’s a chickenshit little coward who has never faced any real danger in his pathetic, little life.

Well, he got his Veterans Day military parade. I’ll bet all the military personnel sitting out in the desert (and all those who had to help prepare for this “mission”) are just thrilled with this.

The Armed Forces are already in trouble with recruiting and retention over Trump. I imagine this will do nothing to help.

It would almost look as if he was assisting a rival state, trying to weaken the US Military.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:51:16pm

re: #445 Belafon

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They are pictures from the New Black Panther Party-Atlanta Chapter’s FB page.


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