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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:31:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:32:49pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:33:40pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Way I look at is simple. You’ve done your time. You should be able to vote. It does no good to make ex-cons non-citizens and prohibit their participation in our Republic but McConnell and those like him who support policies don’t care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:34:10pm

teehee

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:35:56pm

Holy Mama, Nate Silver has updated the Democratic chances of winning the Senate to one in five.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:37:05pm

Just a reminder to go to polls tomorrow and vote. Every vote counts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:37:31pm
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:37:37pm
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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:38:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:38:43pm

re: #5 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Holy Mama, Nate Silver has updated the Democratic chances of winning the Senate to one in five.

He gives my HoR candidate 1:40. We couldn’t get the Alabama GOP to run another child molester.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:39:03pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Designated North Korea a terrorist state while at the same time praising Kim. Lumpy you’re pathetic.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:39:32pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

He gives my HoR candidate 1:40. We couldn’t get the Alabama GOP to run another child molester.

I’ve missed your wit DD lol.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:39:39pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think McConnell’s actions over the past few years show he belongs in that club.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:40:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:41:14pm

re: #9 MsJ

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So he’s leaving to live under Gillum.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:41:33pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No shock there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:41:47pm

Hung on the last thread, lonely and forlorn …

re: #482 HappyWarrior

So why the fuck are they going to the border? Oh wait, Trump is an insecure little man child who feels the need to look tough because he’s a chickenshit little coward who has never faced any real danger in his pathetic, little life.

re: #487 Anymouse 🌹

Well, he got his Veterans Day military parade. I’ll bet all the military personnel sitting out in the desert (and all those who had to help prepare for this “mission”) are just thrilled with this.

The Armed Forces are already in trouble with recruiting and retention over Trump. I imagine this will do nothing to help.

It would almost look as if he was assisting a rival state, trying to weaken the US Military.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:42:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:44:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:44:20pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FNC would call her paid by Soros if she were around today.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:44:56pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The KFC near the WH is going to make bank.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:45:20pm

heh

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:46:20pm

Can’t even get my tweet right.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:47:28pm

re: #22 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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2/10: Donnie. No originality.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:48:37pm

re: #5 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Holy Mama, Nate Silver has updated the Democratic chances of winning the Senate to one in five.

He still has my House district as the most conservative in the nation (sigh) with a 99+% chance of Adrian Smith (I only represent Republicans) being returned to the House.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:48:51pm

re: #5 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Holy Mama, Nate Silver has updated the Democratic chances of winning the Senate to one in five.

I read that wrong and thought you were talking about the House. Nearly fainted.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:50:39pm

Inflation hits 6-year high, wiping out wage gains for the average American

Prices rose at their highest clip since 2012 over the past year, the Labor Department reported Thursday.

The 2.9 percent inflation for the 12-month period ending in June is a sign of a growing economy, but it’s also a painful development for workers, whose tepid wage gains have failed to keep pace with the rising prices.

The cost of food, shelter and gas have all risen significantly in the past year. Gas skyrocketed more than 24 percent, rent for a primary residence jumped 3.6 percent and meals at restaurants and cafeterias rose 2.8 percent.

Gee, who could have seen this coming? One quibble, I don’t think it is a sign of a growing economy. It is a sign of tax cuts increasing the available supply of money while reducing the incentive to invest in capital projects. It is going to get much worse.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:50:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:51:11pm

LOL

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:51:34pm

re: #23 Belafon

Reload. I messed up. I’m in Texas, all right.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:52:42pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

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Fake News! Why won’t the camera pan to show the crowd?!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:53:13pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

On that thread, this guy is being a particularly obtuse tool in the thread. Note “felons can’t vote” laws were put in after Reconstruction (and again after the Civil Rights Act passed) specifically to perpetuate Jim Crow.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:55:35pm

re: #31 Belafon

Fake News! Why won’t the camera pan to show the crowd?!

Yeah, Lyin’ Ted can’t get away with what Hair Fuhrer does.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:57:09pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

So, the right to vote should be left up to the voters?

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:57:13pm

re: #9 MsJ

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Instant classic: LEPAGE closes tenure by announcing he’s moving to Fla

We don’t want you

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 5, 2018 • 6:57:16pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:01:42pm

re: #28 MsJ

And tweeting like the crazy man he is, trying to influence the vote. I expect tomorrow will break the record for the most outrageous lies ever told by Trump in a single day.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:03:12pm

We’ve seen his tweets before, but who among ever had “agreeing with Axl” as a possibility:

Thread:

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:05:00pm

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

“Conservatives love animals, but there is one species they have long wanted to make extinct: the RINO. Not the horned African rhino, mind you, but rather the hoity-toity political RINO — Republicans in Name Only. Movement types have long been enraged by RINOs’ cool attitude toward tax cutting and social conservatism and their willingness to cooperate with, and occasionally vote for, Democrats. Hunting RINO officeholders during primary season has been the Club for Growth’s primary mission for years, and together with activist muscle, the group has successfully pushed the party to the right.

It turns out, however, that poaching RINO legislators is not enough to drive RINOs to extinction. Conservatives have long thought that RINOs’ native environment was the lobby room and the fundraising circuit — that they drew their sustenance from the insiders, not the folks back home. But it turns out that the RINOs were living off the land the whole time, the McMansion-land of upper-income suburbia. Millions of voters there were in fact RINOs too, and picking off their representatives did not do a thing to change their minds about the issues. They like “go slow” Republicanism and do not believe that things in America are bad enough on any level to warrant radical, significant change.

Trump’s message was that America was a sinking ship, one that needed a radical change of course, and fast. Add his volatile and voluble personality to the mix and you can see why RINOs did not want to take a cruise on the SS GOP with Trump as its captain. But Trump won despite their defection.

Tuesday, however, is going to be the RINOs’ revenge. Romney-loving RINOs are coming out of their preserves with fire in their hearts and a gleam in their eyes. They are decked out in hunting gear of their own, and their prey is the Trump-backing, change-seeking GOP. They might not be able to win primaries anymore, but in league with their new friends, the Democrats, they are eager to take down some big game of their own. And they will.

The new Democrat-RINO alliance is going to retake the House, sweep the GOP out of governor’s mansions in most purple states, and end the careers of hundreds of suburban state legislators. In the Senate, it will most likely hold Republicans to a one- or two-seat gain despite an incredibly favorable map — and may even win the Democrats a seat. Come Wednesday, the RINOs will mount their trophies on their walls and resolve to continue the hunt until the big game is caught: the orange-plumed woodpecker from Queens.”

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:06:38pm

Not surprised the Serbs advocates “ethnic cleansing” of Hispanics from America.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:07:35pm

re: #34 Belafon

So, the right to vote should be left up to the voters?

Apparently. Kind of like marriage rights.

Jim Crow laws designed to disenfranchise minority populations, and selective enforcement of criminal laws work against others as well.

It’s worth it to sacrifice a few white votes to disenfranchise a large swath of black votes to such politicians. (Thus, I couldn’t vote from 1996 to 2012 for being homeless, though nowhere in the Constitution does it say you have to have a home.)

When literacy tests were all the rage to register to vote (and selectively applied), states disenfranchised large portions of the minority population. Turns out in most states if you are not on the voting rolls, you can’t serve on a jury either. Aside from strikes by lawyers, ever wonder where all those all-white juries during Jim Crow came from?

After Jim Crow laws were struck down, the disparity remained (people were not registered to vote, and could not serve on juries).

The attitude didn’t exist just in Dixie of course, there were plenty of racists elsewhere. The South made an industry of it however.

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:08:12pm

Greenwald is a parody of a parody of himself. Literally.

Note: Glem Tweeted first

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:10:33pm

re: #42 gocart mozart

Greenwald is a parody of a parody of himself. Literally.

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He should be worried about the fascist in his own backyard instead of bitching st the Dems.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:11:54pm

re: #40 DodgerFan1988

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Not surprised the Serbs advocates “ethnic cleansing” of Hispanics from America.

My grandfather’s best friend is Serbian American. No way is he voting GOP.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:13:51pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

He should be worried about the fascist in his own backyard instead of bitching st the Dems.

He helped elect one here … now he might have to live with one there. The real shame the rest of Brazil doesn’t deserve this.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:14:22pm

Interesting…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:15:56pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

He helped elect one here … now he might have to live with one there. The real shame the rest of Brazil doesn’t deserve this.

My brother was telling me about him. He’s awful in so many ways.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:17:55pm

re: #46 makeitstop

Interesting…

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I hope it works. King, Gohmert, Nunes all deserve permanent retirements from Congress.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:18:25pm

Knicks and Bulls heading for second overtime. Two teams probably not going anywhere, but this is a hell of a game.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:19:10pm

PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE…SPACE…SPACE…

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:19:10pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I hope it works. King, Gohmert, Nunes all deserve permanent retirements from Congress.

Also Rohrabacher.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:20:35pm

re: #50 The Vicious Babushka

PROJECTING LIKE AN IMAX IN OUTER SPACE…SPACE…SPACE…

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Rush is so full of shit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:20:50pm

re: #51 makeitstop

Also Rohrabacher.

Too many to count.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:21:41pm

‘Twas The Night Before Election Day
Colbert has been awesome the last two years….

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:21:52pm

Last count of ballots returned in Colorado before Election Day:

That’s about a 50% turnout rate, with one more day of polling.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:24:49pm

re: #42 gocart mozart

Greenwald is a parody of a parody of himself. Literally.

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Because a party that achieves a sweeping victory in the House is obviously collapsing./

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:28:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:28:48pm

I imagine after the polls close here at 6PM Mythical Standard Time, we will probably find out we still have two Republican representatives (Fortenberry and Smith), and fingers crossed that Don Bacon (NE-2) is sent home and replaced by Kara Eastman (D). Smaller but non-zero chance Sen. Deb Fischer (R) will also be coming home and Jane Raybould (D) will be heading to Washington.

In my much more local races, there is no one running against my state senator. The school board race for the Village of Dalton school board (my school district in Cheyenne County; our town looks like a checkerboard on which house goes to what school) looks exceptionally tight and may flip to the Democratic women running. County commission has no Democrats running.

On the other side of the county, the Bayard School District also has the chance of flipping to Democratic control with women candidates running … that would take away my dubious distinction of being the only elected Democrat in this county.

Then there’s the all-important (to me anyway) village board election here. Does the lone Democrat stay on the board? I’ll be eagerly awaiting the returns from our one precinct.

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freetoken  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:31:08pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

By demographics, Ft Wayne is 74% “white”.

That crowd, though….

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ipsos  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:32:59pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

I know that arena in Fort Wayne really well. (Go Komets!)

They moved the stage WAY to one end and curtained off probably 8000 seats just to make it look full for the Orange Anus.

And the Democrat running an uphill fight for the House seat there? She is AWESOME, my sister-in-law has been working her ass off on the campaign, and if you see tomorrow night that Courtney Tritch has somehow unseated Banks in that district, that will be my second happiest upset of the night. (Beto….)

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:35:23pm
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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:37:37pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

Last count of ballots returned in Colorado before Election Day:

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That’s about a 50% turnout rate, with one more day of polling.

This sounds very good if the trend in Colorado continues:

vox.com

How did the unaffiliated vote?

From the spring of this year

Among the unaffiliated who received both major party ballots, 153,095 sent back the Democratic ballot and 93,041 sent back the Republican one.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:38:38pm

re: #46 makeitstop

Interesting…

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I’m sure Sheldon Adleson is still on the trump/bibi train.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:39:34pm

re: #63 MsJ

I’m sure Sheldon Adleson is still on the trump/bibi train.

Do you want Sheldon in our camp?

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Kilroy was here  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:42:58pm

re: #59 freetoken

By demographics, Ft Wayne is 74% “white”.

That crowd, though….

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:43:58pm

re: #50 The Vicious Babushka

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Charles Johnson  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:45:04pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:47:34pm
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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:48:17pm

re: #64 Belafon

Do you want Sheldon in our camp?

Right now I’ll take any help from anywhere.

Would I like him? No. But his billions wouldn’t be wasted.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:49:28pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:49:29pm
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:49:45pm

I am as nervous as a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:52:20pm

re: #71 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:53:29pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:54:06pm

I successfully registered two of my friends to vote today: a kid I work with at the ski area who just turned 18 last month, and a friend from primary school days who has never voted before.

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MsJ  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:54:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:55:48pm

re: #76 MsJ

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:57:21pm

Nebraska early/absentee/mail voting data (ours isn’t as kewl looking as Colorado’s sorry, it comes as text):

Early Vote Ballots Returned to date:
Democrats: 49,925
Nonpartisan: 15,624
Republicans: 60,702
Unknown: 563
Total People: 126,814

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:58:12pm

They are dropping like flies.

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:58:24pm

re: #70 Big Beautiful Door

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I’m not going to try to reassure you, because I was so disastrously wrong two years ago

I think we can stop going back there and beating ourselves up

We weren’t so much wrong
As maybe we weren’t thorough
and took a bit for granted
And won’t ever again

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dangerman  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:59:27pm

re: #71 gocart mozart

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It’s true. Racists love trump. Proudly.

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ipsos  Nov 5, 2018 • 7:59:45pm

Fact: that arena holds 13000 in its maximum capacity for basketball. 10500 for hockey or concerts.

There is NO way the curtained-off section they showed in that tweet could fit more than maybe 5000.

And yet the Fort Wayne media are reporting crowds of between 17000 and 20000.

But… at least only one TV station in town preempted its network schedule to give Orange Anus free airtime.

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:02:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:04:34pm

re: #83 gocart mozart

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I think that gets it. Listen Bush shouldn’t be rehabilitated for his failings but Trump is an unique blight on the presidency.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:05:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:07:28pm
Gov. Pete Ricketts fired the state’s director of administrative services Thursday for failing to take action against a problem employee.

The governor announced the action against Byron Diamond during a press conference call.

He said he terminated Diamond because the director had not dealt with a temporary employee who had been bullying, sexually harassing and discriminating against women in the workplace. The temporary employee also was fired Thursday.

Ricketts said Diamond had tried to resign but he refused to accept the resignation.

(more)

starherald.com (Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:07:56pm

re: #85 Ace-o-aces

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Those voices aren’t influencing the left. Trump IS influencing people like Bowers, Savoc, etc.

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:09:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:10:07pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

That’s a hell of a fucking hill to die on.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:10:38pm

re: #76 MsJ

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:15:30pm

re: #85 Ace-o-aces

Wow, that guy is being intentionally obtuse.

There has been a concerted effort for decades to paint a position opposed to the Israeli government’s position as “antisemitic.” That was seen very clearly in the BDS movement, where conservatives tried to outlaw free speech (advocating for a boycott) as promoted by lobby groups and the Israeli government.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has even painted advocating for a boycott as antisemitic.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:16:24pm

Thread about early voting this year:

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Scout  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:18:40pm

A friend sent me this, I believe to give me a chuckle. Unfortunately, I’m just not getting it. Anyone care to explain it to me?

The caption was “As seen in Texas.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:20:11pm

re: #93 Scout

I don’t know what’s special about that being Texas. I read that sign to my wife and she laughed for half a minute. I think the sign is just meant to be funny.

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Belafon  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:20:14pm

re: #92 Belafon

Folks in the replies are naming this “the Swift effect”:

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Scout  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:21:47pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know what’s special about that being Texas. I read that sign to my wife and she laughed for half a minute. I think the sign is just meant to be funny.

Thanks for the reply. I just don’t get it.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:23:46pm

re: #95 Belafon

A highlight of TargetEarly is its early and absentee partisan affiliation reporting. For some states, TargetSmart is able to collect official party registration information for voters. In other cases, state governments do not make this information available. When official party registration information is not available, TargetSmart does the next best thing which is to predict the party affiliation of voters. Like any prediction there may be inaccuracies. We are careful to label our predictions as “Modeled” so you can understand this is a prediction of party affiliation.

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gocart mozart  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:27:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:29:58pm

I telework tomorrow so I will get up at 430 to hit the gym when it opens at 530, get home and start working at 715. Will work till 345 and then go vote. My Los Angeles ballot says the polling station is 2 blocks away and when I came home from work the side of Normandie that the polling place is under construction and the sidewalk is blocked off…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:36:40pm

re: #96 Scout

Thanks for the reply. I just don’t get it.

I don’t think there’s anything particularly Texas about it, but here’s a closer view of the sign:

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:36:58pm

re: #96 Scout

Thanks for the reply. I just don’t get it.

Well, it certainly is different than the usual political sign. The “I’m an Asshole” immediately gets your attention, followed by the smaller message “I’m not running for anything, I just wanted a sign.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:48:13pm

Remembering 10 Years Since We Baracked The Vote (Wonkette, more at the link):

Sunday marked the 10th anniversary of Barack Obama’s election as the first black US president. Ten years! What an epic night. People were celebrating in the streets like the original ending of Return of the Jedi. Black folks were crying … good tears, not the “does anyone know the nearest stop for the Underground Railroad?” tears from 2016. We had achieved something unprecedented. So many states, including Florida or Georgia, had never even had a black governor (not yet) but the US had a black commander-in-chief. It was a milestone Americans of all races could appreciate, because it meant that racism was officially over. A former coworker had already insisted this happened in 2003 when Halle Berry won an Oscar (so “Spike Lee can just shut up!”) but this was less irrational.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 8:58:20pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:03:12pm

re: #103 makeitstop

Have they checked the White House?

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austin_blue  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:07:19pm

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t think there’s anything particularly Texas about it, but here’s a closer view of the sign:

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That’s a guy who’s not voting. I think we can agree, he’s an asshole because he’s not voting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:09:55pm

Ask Stormy Daniels, don’t be surprised at the answer if it’s NSFW:

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TedStriker  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:10:54pm

re: #105 austin_blue

That’s a guy who’s not voting. I think we can agree, he’s an asshole because he’s not voting.

Well, the sign doesn’t say they aren’t voting, it just says they’re not running

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:12:22pm

Giphy

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austin_blue  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:15:07pm

It’s either your Republic, your country, or the 1%’s Domain. For them, it already is. That’s where we are. You have to change it. They run the country and they don’t give a fuck about anybody else.

Vote, vote vote, it’s all you’ve got. Do it.

And goodnight all.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:17:56pm

re: #95 Belafon

A lot of those people will end up being Republicans. A lot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:22:18pm

re: #110 GlutenFreeJesus

A lot of those people will end up being Republicans. A lot.

That may be the case. It would not seem very likely the overwhelming majority are Democrats.

That said, look at the percentages. While numbers in the 50+ range are also up, those are also the people who will not be voting in too many elections, while the people in the 18-29 bracket will be around for a long time.

We do get a real test of the truism that large turnouts favour Democrats. We’ll see.

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makeitstop  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:23:07pm
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Scout  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:24:58pm

Deleted

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retired cynic  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:26:57pm

re: #114 Scout

I see no reason why they won’t be just as racist as all the people to come before them.

Sorry, that’s a ham-fisted way of me trying to say racism isn’t going to go away when today’s old fogies (like me) pass off this mortal coil. But it seems like a lot of people assume that’s what will happen.

I hope we’re assuming (hoping?) that the percentage of racists will slowly get smaller.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:27:55pm
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Scout  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:30:45pm

re: #115 retired cynic

Yeah, I’m hoping that too. I just don’t seen any evidence.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:31:24pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:35:45pm

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

washingtonpost.com

The Washington Post made the common popular reporting error in charaterising a survey as a study. They are not the same.

That said:

Are college students “snowflakes” — triggered, traumatized and all together too delicate for the real world?

Or are they apathetic — so unconcerned that they can’t be bothered to purchase stamps to send in their absentee ballots?

The two characterizations of young Americans are in conflict, observed Melissa Hagan, an assistant professor of psychology at San Francisco State University. Her research has led her to believe that neither captures what’s going on in the minds of young people. Their intense reaction to political events runs contrary to the charge of apathy, she said, while the emotional trauma they report should not be dismissed as hypersensitivity.

With a team of researchers, she surveyed 769 introductory psychology students at Arizona State University in January and February 2017, asking about their satisfaction with the 2016 election, whether they were upset about the outcome and whether the results of the race had affected their close relationships.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:47:39pm

Tantrum in Iowa… .

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:47:53pm

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

Not just college students. A lot of alumni, too.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:48:10pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:51:50pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:52:06pm

re: #121 wheat-dogg

Not just college students. A lot of alumni, too.

A lot of people who never went to college.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:53:25pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

We don’t seem to have a way to check if a ballot is received. Tomorrow we have to go to Scottsbluff, so I will stop by the clerk’s office and see if our ballots were received. (If no, we’ll vote right there in the hallway.)

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:53:48pm

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹

A lot of people who never went to college.

About 51% or more of the country, really.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 9:54:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:12:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:14:48pm

Looking at all the popular vote counts of every president since I was born (Eisenhower), the only presidents who won the election but didn’t win the popular vote were both Republicans (GW Bush’s first election, and Donald Trump).

That’s the structural disadvantage built into the Electoral College (which could be mostly eliminated by expanding the number of seats in the US House, which doesn’t require a constitutional amendment).

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:16:56pm
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:17:13pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Looking at all the popular vote counts of every president since I was born (Eisenhower), the only presidents who won the election but didn’t win the popular vote were both Republicans (GW Bush’s first election, and Donald Trump).

That’s the structural disadvantage built into the Electoral College (which could be mostly eliminated by expanding the number of seats in the US House, which doesn’t require a constitutional amendment).

If I’m not mistaken, I think it’s just a matter of repealing the 1929 Apportionment Act.

BBL - off to work.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:17:15pm

We can hope this is a metaphor for Ted Cruz’s reëlection campaign tomorrow:

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piratedan  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:20:33pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

or we finally go ahead and recognize Puerto Rico as a state and we could even look at allowing DC Home Rule and the same courtesy extended to the US Virgin Islands and Guam and American Samoa and have them be allocated an actual voting member of Congress….

If the folks in Wyoming can have representation, why not these current dependencies?

If you’re against that, then we also can look at a re-apportionment of seats to allow better representation of our cities, because they are seriously under-represented at present.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:21:46pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

Traveling!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:25:07pm

Well, here’s a guy who probably ought to get an automatic block from the Twitterati:

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:27:10pm

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

Author FROM QUEER TO CHRIST

I won’t block just yet, that’s looney enough for research purposes.

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sagehen  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:28:13pm

re: #9 MsJ

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Nothing to do with winter, I’m sure.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:31:09pm

re: #136 teleskiguy

I won’t block just yet, that’s looney enough for research purposes.

Also, if we win big, you can have enormous fun reminding him of this.

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:35:56pm

JFK looks like he’s 16 years old.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:44:01pm

I’m off to bed, y’all. 120-mile round trip tomorrow to Scottsbluff, election results to sweat over, possibly packing my bags in the middle of the night. /s

Catch y’all later.

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 10:57:33pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

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I still remember when wingnuts insisted that the collapse of Kansas into an economic basketcase was not due to deep tax cuts, but because “OBAMA DESTROYED THE ECONOMY ON PURPOSE!!!”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:03:47pm

re: #139 teleskiguy

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JFK looks like he’s 16 years old.

And the guy on the right in front looks like PeeWee Herman.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:36:53pm

It’s possible that vomiting caused by long-term cannabis use might lead to dehydration that can increase ketones and lead to ketoacidosis in people with Type 1 diabetes…

What?

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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:37:31pm

I found my candidate for 2020:

Tonight Show

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Kragar  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:39:25pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:41:27pm

re: #145 Kragar

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Tots and pears?

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:49:21pm
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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:49:21pm

re: #5 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Holy Mama, Nate Silver has updated the Democratic chances of winning the Senate to one in five.

20% chance - getting close to what gave trump the win (I think it was under 30%)

Go Beto

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fern01  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:50:38pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

And a seriously crappy lot of accomplishments

Successful trip to Asia - hahahaha - no-one knows what he did.

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teleskiguy  Nov 5, 2018 • 11:55:39pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:01:34am

re: #149 fern01

And a seriously crappy lot of accomplishments

Successful trip to Asia - hahahaha - no-one knows what he did.

He says it was successful, who ya gonna believe, our honest President or the Lügenpresse?

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fern01  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:10:24am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Can’t be ANY norms for trump - he breaks them all. Dems are going to have to create legislation to define how a president must/must no behave. Who would have thought the highest position in the land would need such legislation.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:18:16am

re: #152 fern01

Can’t be ANY norms for trump - he breaks them all. Dems are going to have to create legislation to define how a president must/must no behave. Who would have thought the highest position in the land would need such legislation.

Here is the problem with electing, much less nominating, someone with no previous public service. Trump never held public office, so he was never in the position of being responsible to the people who voted for or appointed him. He was and remains ignorant of nearly everything an American politician and public servant knows, or should know. The dumbest congressmen, of which there are many, at least have some glimmer of the responsibilities of their office, if only to keep the folks back home voting for them. Trump does not give a shit about the voters, despite all his bluster and fake promises. In a sane situation, he would have never been nominated, because he was and is woefully unqualified.

So, maybe we need a law setting down some basic job qualifications besides the Constitutional age and birthplace requirements. I doubt it would get much traction in any Congress, though, because the cons would lobby for church membership and anti-abortion beliefs as qualifications.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:21:44am

We need to consider the 3D chewing gum gap with China.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:24:16am

Game mongers and their tactics…

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:27:02am

Looks like we found where Saddam dumped those chemical weapons.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:27:23am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:27:33am

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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Mood:

Cat Watching Horror Movie

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fern01  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:30:37am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

Tantrum in Iowa… .

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He is doing ANYTHING to get in the news. Has no money & no party support.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 12:38:58am

Well, as far as the clock is concerned it is Election Day in the United States in all the time zones. That noted, I offer this tweet:

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 1:03:35am

Why I put up with the high cost of property in San Diego:

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 1:13:01am

re: #161 freetoken

Ain’t no skiin’ in San Diego.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 1:23:37am

re: #162 teleskiguy

outsideonline.com

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Ming5000  Nov 6, 2018 • 1:35:13am

It is raining cats and dogs this morning in Michigan. I am hopeful that this year the rain will not be a deterrent to go to the polls to vote as it often seems to be.
At least for Blue Voters.

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fern01  Nov 6, 2018 • 1:42:43am

I was having a small daydream about Beto defeating Cruz. Just wondering what trump will say to Cruz and what the latter may reply. Interesting times.

So hope Beto wins - regardless of who takes the Senate.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 6, 2018 • 1:53:18am

re: #165 fern01

I was having a small daydream about Beto defeating Cruz. Just wondering what trump will say to Cruz and what the latter may reply. Interesting times.

So hope Beto wins - regardless of who takes the Senate.

I can ask the Chinese intelligence agency. I’m sure they’ll know.
//

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Ming5000  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:00:36am

re: #165 fern01

One of the Dem long shots HAS to win (I hope).

I am going to relish every win and every advancement. If the Republic survives the next two years we can work on gaining more ground.
This is the new normal.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:02:17am

re: #143 Single-handed sailor

I wonder when the vomiting from long time chronic use starts? Lessee… it’s been 47 years now.

Any day now… I might as well have a dab while I’m waiting to vomit.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:04:28am

re: #168 Odie Hugh Manatee

I wonder when the vomiting from long time chronic use starts? Lessee… it’s been 47 years now.

Any day now… I might as well have a dab while I’m waiting to vomit.

The connection is unclear, but it is about marijuana so we will publish it as people will read and discuss it in great detail…

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:10:25am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It would be irresponsible not to speculate! Maybe I need to stick my finger down my throat to start things up? I think the only way weed can hurt you is if you burn yourself with a joint or choke on a piece of candy.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:14:55am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:20:32am
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:21:08am

In my long ballot, that I am reviewing before voting later this morning, Prop 10 is the hard one to decide.

I agree that rents are out of control.

But putting in stiff rent controls does not mean there will be a better situation.

It’s not really difficult - the market is the driving force behind rents. Contrary to the wingnuts (who are looking for any fantasy to downgrade California), people move here and continue to move here to live. That is what puts pressure on real estate, including rents.

While the local Democratic party is pro-10, I suspect that is more a sign of needing to identify with poor people than having a thought through policy.

Instead of rent control, I suggest that a large expansion of rent subsidies is what is needed, with the additional funds coming from increased property taxes.

This is where Prop 13 of old has really screwed us over - it has kept logical policies from being implemented.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:24:01am

re: #172 Single-handed sailor

‘Real army’ will defend Europe ‘against China, Russia, US’ - Macron

On the other hand, Trump was pressing Germany to spend a full 2% of its GDP on military, which would give it the largest military in Europe, even larger than Russia’s…

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:24:35am

Another option is a negative income tax.

Currently in California, renters qualify for a “renters credit”, but it is so small as to be insulting.

If the renters credit was tied to income level, and could rise to a substantial amount (say a cap of $5k), then I think that may help.

What we really need is a progressive property tax. I’m surprised this has not been a cause for the state Democratic party.

Such a tax could fund rent subsidies or an enhanced renters credit.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:30:41am

That the old Prop 13 is still a religion here in California betrays how shallow a change that otherwise the collapse of the state Republican party would suggest.

Prop 13 has caused more problems than it solved.

I realize that many retirees were, and still are, keen for Prop 13 limiting property taxes, but in the end Prop 13 is anti-civilization.

A progressive property tax, where if a property is assessed at greater than the median for the state (those below the median can remain at 1%) would progressive pay more property tax, would rightly price the responsibility of keeping up society to those who most benefit from it.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 2:55:27am

Among the many justices for which I have to make a decision, one of them a local Dem group encourages “No”. The justices is Patricia Benke and since I don’t know the name (who does know the names of all their judges??) I googled her and came across this recent instance of Trumper violence:

Altercation inside KPBS studio leads to restraining order

An employee at KPBS, the San Diego member station for the national Public Broadcasting Service, sought a temporary restraining order against a coworker and his family members — including an appellate court judge — saying he fears for his safety after being attacked at work.

[…]

The request was filed against longtime KPBS studio technician Donald Benke, his adult son, Peter Benke, and his wife, Judge Patricia D. Benke, an associate justice on the 4th District Court of Appeal in San Diego.

[…]

[…] the incident began on the morning of Sept. 6 during the taping of a private video production inside the studio.

As two hosts and their guest were discussing political developments in Washington D.C., Donald Benke grew angry and confronted the men over their criticism of President Donald Trump, the witnesses said.

The guest, a professor emeritus in the School of Communication at SDSU named Peter Andersen, replied by stating something to the effect of “This is not the Third Reich; you can say what you want,” one witness said.

[…]

About 20 minutes later, Peter Benke, a 35-year-old photographer who lives with his parents, apparently bypassed two security doors and appeared inside the television studio, witnesses said. He slammed a heavy book onto a table and demanded to know who in the studio had called his father a Nazi, they added.

Andersen replied that he had not called anyone a Nazi but again defended his First Amendment rights to free speech, one witness said. At that point, Peter Benke jumped toward the professor and grabbed ahold of his arm, tearing the skin and causing Andersen to bleed, […]

[…]

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MsJ  Nov 6, 2018 • 3:35:20am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

That may be the case. It would not seem very likely the overwhelming majority are Democrats.

That said, look at the percentages. While numbers in the 50+ range are also up, those are also the people who will not be voting in too many elections, while the people in the 18-29 bracket will be around for a long time.

We do get a real test of the truism that large turnouts favour Democrats. We’ll see.

If the older voters are first time (or long time inactive) voters, they are not likely to not be Fox viewers.

I hope.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 3:37:54am

re: #161 freetoken

Why I put up with the high cost of property in San Diego:

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Well, we know that’s not true, because you could get the same living in Alabama or Mississippi.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 3:39:55am

re: #178 MsJ

If the older voters are first time (or long time inactive) voters, they are not likely to not be Fox viewers.

I hope.

The GOP strategy was to build on the 30% or so of rabid Trump supporters who could be counted on to come out and vote. Then they just needed to top that up by enough votes from the remaining electorate to guarantee an electoral victory.

This is why they are doing their damnedest to keep turnout selectively low.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 3:51:04am

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

Well, we know that’s not true, because you could get the same living in Alabama or Mississippi.

Nope.

San Diego is not too hot, not humid, not too cold, no mosquitoes, etc.

It’s why so many people move to southern California.

Which of course is why property is so expensive.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 3:54:29am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 6, 2018 • 4:38:41am

It’s 6:30 am in Austin. Foggy, balmy, and still as closed room outside.

Somewhere in America Polls are open.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 4:39:31am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:05:23am

re: #181 freetoken

Nope.

San Diego is not too hot, not humid, not too cold, no mosquitoes, etc.

It’s why so many people move to southern California.

Which of course is why property is so expensive.

The humidity by far is one of the biggest downfalls here in the DMV.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:11:50am

Voted in my town, #72. A little late today because I was working till 2 a.m. this morning.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:12:44am

6 p.m. Eastern
Today is the day — this is not a drill. The first polls close at 6 p.m. Eastern tonight, and my colleague Nathaniel Rakich has you covered from there on with this hour-by-hour guide. The 7 p.m. hour brings two of the most interesting governors races; 7:30 p.m. could bring early signs of a “blue tsunami” (or not); 8 p.m. brings dozens of House races including some close ones; in the 9 p.m. hour we could well know who will control the House; and in the 10 p.m. hour, we could well know who will control the Senate. Might I suggest a nap now?

[FiveThirtyEight]

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:14:26am

Kate over at McMansion Hell put up a Halloween edition:

50 States of McMansion ℌ𝔢𝔩𝔩: King County, Washington

Image: tumblr_inline_phhc9tdo3g1sppt0x_1280.png

this is just an abomination, completely eviscerating the millennia-long tradition of architectural detailing in the same way facebook has eviscerated the meaning of the word “truth” for millions of old people addicted to insane right-wing conspiracy pages

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jeffreyw  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:15:39am

Imgur


Good morning!

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:16:14am

I’ll be at Loveland today. Three feet of new snow in three days. Can’t go wrong with that.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:17:28am

At least the Twitter top 5 trends in the US are about voting.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:18:45am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

We can hope this is a metaphor for Ted Cruz’s reëlection campaign tomorrow:

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Ted got (no) game!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:26:03am

Voting completed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:29:15am

in Cincinnati:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:31:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:36:26am

“vexing” is not the word I would have used

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:37:52am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

“vexing” is not the word I would have used

The “Vote GOP To Save Obamacare” is coming sooner than I expected.

/

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:38:34am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

Tantrum in Iowa… .

Can we haz no Steve King in Congress please?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:38:48am

It’s on!

I am beginning to understand how Eisenhower and his staff felt on D-Day. Events have been set in motion. Now we wait for the result, knowing that the fate of the world hinges on the outcome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:39:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:41:10am
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:41:19am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t it common for the first votes of the day to go slowly?

My impression has always been that the poll workers are a bit confused in sorting things out.

I plan on voting in the middle of the afternoon in the hopes of avoiding lines.

Then again, I have to walk almost a mile to the polling place.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:41:23am

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe not open yet? Or the polling volunteers are still getting coffee.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:43:05am

re: #202 freetoken

re: #203 Sir John Barron

or this:

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:44:50am

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

or this:

“I see you are trying to vote while Black. Your polling station has moved. Or you can come back tomorrow.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:48:00am

If you haven’t already, VOTE!

Say no to Putin and Trump and their bots and trolls,
Say no to Alex Jones and the conspiracy industry,
Say no to Fox News and whorehouse media,
Say no to Nazis and Birchers,
Say no to Confederates and the Klan and all other racists.
Say no to superstition and theocracy,
Say no to snake oil and pseudoscience,
Say not to the inbred yokel gentry and its privilege,
Say no to Mercer and the Kochs,
Say no to the Rand cult and voodoo economics,

Vote as though your life depends on it, because IT DOES.
.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:50:08am
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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:50:21am

Me voting in 2016 vs me voting today…

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:50:29am

Seems that Florida deplorables are having a particularly energetic turnout on Twitter.

Gillum has really triggered them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:51:50am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:54:34am

re: #209 freetoken

Seems that Florida deplorables are having a particularly energetic turnout on Twitter.

Gillum has really triggered them.

Can’t imagine why.

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:55:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:57:06am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump warns in Missouri that “if Democrats gain power on Tuesday, one of their very first projects will be a socialist takeover of health care… The Democrat plan would obliterate Obamacare.”

Keep their government hands off your Medicare!

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 5:58:14am

I wonder what this is about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:00:43am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:01:56am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

AMERICA RESPECTED AGAIN AGAIN

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:03:18am

re: #214 makeitstop

I wonder what this is about.

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Looking at Geopap’s twitter timeline, he has tweeted a lot in the last 24 hours about how he was set up by Obama, Australia, and Britain.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:07:01am
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:07:27am

SMOTI’s at it again:

MSNBC Puts Up Graphic Showing Socialist Crook Andrew Gillum Winning Florida — That Has Not Happened Yet

And of course the deplorables are on it:

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:07:30am

re: #5 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Holy Mama, Nate Silver has updated the Democratic chances of winning the Senate to one in five.

Beware the late movement in the polls. It doesn’t happen nearly as much as one would think. The odds are that the GOP retains the Senate - mostly because far more Democrats were up in this cycle than GOPers. The odds are that the GOP may actually pick up a seat or two because of the underlying structure of this cycle in the Senate.

The House is a different story and it’s likely to be a huge wave, which is why Trump is trying to deny, deflect, and dig deeper with the lies and racism.

The party in power controlling Congress has what accomplishments to run on? A tax cut that polls poorly even among the GOP base - because the trickle down doesn’t. It’s a massive redistribution of wealth to millionaires and the burdens all go the other way.

The GOP is also trying to lie and bluster by claiming Democrats are going to take away health care - when the Congressional Record - the actual record of action by this GOP has been nonstop attempts to gut health coverage for tens of millions of Americans, and the GOP is on the record as wanting to gut Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

They want to roll back the safety net, and are hoping to bamboozle their base into thinking that this is a good thing, mostly because they’re fearmongering that minorities might be using these programs too.

So, that leaves the GOP running on the bigotry and racism plank that Trump made clear was the only thing the GOP base cares about - fear of a few thousand migrants seeking asylum, minorities and immigrants in the US are criminals (when immigrants in particular commit crime at a far lower rate than native born Americans), and then the whole birthright citizenship thing.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:11:11am

re: #220 lawhawk

The Republicans “retain” the Senate is most likely because a 50-50 split ( one of the likely outcomes) still counts as a “retain”.

If that happens, and the Democrats control the House, the House ought to send the Senate a bill every hour of every day, and make Pence sit in the Senate 24/7 till he gives up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:17:24am

They should set out to repeal the tax reform bill as often as the GOP tried to repeal ACA

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:17:42am

re: #221 freetoken

I agree - even if there’s a 51-49 advantage, there’s usually a GOP Senator who isn’t available, and the Democrats could push legislation out to the point of requiring Pence to live in the Senate chamber.

Mother would not approve, or would she?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:18:03am

Doesn’t get much more GOP than this:

By Matt Shuham
November 5, 2018 6:11 pm
An incumbent Republican congressman mocked his Democratic opponent as “manufactured” in a campaign video released Monday. But the video, which shows the congressman acting like he’s canvassing voters in a suburban Minnesota neighborhood, doesn’t appear to have been filmed in the congressman’s actual district.

Instead, Rep. Jason Lewis (R-MN) apparently filmed it in the suburb he calls home, one district north of the area he represents in Congress.

Lewis’ campaign video, called “A manufactured Craig vs. an honest Lewis,” shows him holding what look to be campaign materials and walking away from the front door of an upscale house, as if he had just spoken to a voter in his district about his re-election campaign. He waves to someone off-camera.

Addressing his online audience, Lewis mocks his Democratic opponent, Angie Craig, for one of her campaign ads. “Anybody can put on a flannel shirt and pretend to be something they’re not,” Lewis says, adding at the end of the video: “While she’s still at the bar, I’ll stay out here being honest with voters.”

But, according to TPM’s analysis following an emailed tip, Lewis couldn’t have been talking to his own voters in the video: Instead, it looks like he was filming in Woodbury, the wealthy St. Paul suburb in which he lives, north of the district he represents in Congress….

talkingpointsmemo.com

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:18:54am
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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:26:53am

re: #108 teleskiguy

With enough room to fit 3 Plutos.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:27:18am

Honestly thinking of having a strict media blackout tonight. The results will be what they will be. Tomorrow is soon enough to know, and there is value in avoiding the stress.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:30:22am

re: #219 freetoken

SMOTI’s at it again:

MSNBC Puts Up Graphic Showing Socialist Crook Andrew Gillum Winning Florida — That Has Not Happened Yet

And of course the deplorables are on it:

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I bet there’s a context to this that SMOTI missed.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:30:43am

re: #187 I Would Prefer Not To

For me, those times translate to 7 am (first polls close) to around 11 am. I will either be elated or depressed by lunchtime.

Swell.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:30:56am

re: #227 Unshaken Defiance

Honestly thinking of having a strict media blackout tonight. The results will be what they will be. Tomorrow is soon enough to know, and there is value in avoiding the stress.

I always tune in too early. Generally it takes time for enough votes to come in for the outcome to be known, and I suspect that will be especially true tonight.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:31:42am
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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:33:40am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:36:07am

re: #232 Belafon

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Oooh Hollywood liberals. It’s not like they’re people and citizens with voices like you Ted. Oh and btw, you’re supported by Donald Trump, a celebrity himself. Please fuck off and lose day and sulk in knowing oyu’re never going to be President because you’re less likable than horse shit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:36:40am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I bet there’s a context to this that SMOTI missed.

lolz

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:38:12am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

For White women’s voting franchise. I believe Black women didn’t get the right to vote until the 1960s.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:38:26am

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Oooh Hollywood liberals. It’s not like they’re people and citizens with voices like you Ted. Oh and btw, you’re supported by Donald Trump, a celebrity himself. Please fuck off and lose day and sulk in knowing oyu’re never going to be President because you’re less likable than horse shit.

One of the memes a former high school classmate put up, and my brother liked, was the one about how Hollywood liking Beto was enough of a reason to vote against him. I responded that Californians also like chocolate, steak, and are deathly afraid of drinking bleach.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:39:18am

Looking at the Florida early voting statistics, based on the primary results being an indicator of the general election results, it seems a lot of Democrats in Florida who get mail ballots never bother to return them:

countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:39:57am

re: #232 Belafon

I love how vocal some of my favorite celebrities have been about politics. We need their voices.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:45:32am

re: #236 Belafon

One of the memes a former high school classmate put up, and my brother liked, was the one about how Hollywood liking Beto was enough of a reason to vote against him. I responded that Californians also like chocolate, steak, and are deathly afraid of drinking bleach.

I’m glad everyone who votes against someone because they’re supported by a Hollywood liberal skips the movies, Netflix, TV, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:45:38am

re: #225 lawhawk

When the GOP isn’t busy trying to screw people with pre-existing conditions, they’re fearmongering with racist and bigoted claims about immigrants and minorities.

That’s all while the GOP looks to gut civil and voting rights for minorities.

It is all couched in terms of protecting us against terror, gang violence and voter fraud…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:45:56am

re: #236 Belafon

One of the memes a former high school classmate put up, and my brother liked, was the one about how Hollywood liking Beto was enough of a reason to vote against him. I responded that Californians also like chocolate, steak, and are deathly afraid of drinking bleach.

They like burritos too.

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Jay C  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:46:09am

re: #234 GlutenFreeJesus

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lolz

Well, It’s Dim Jim Hoft, so the idea that something has been “missed” is pretty much a given….
I wonder where Posobiec “found” that graphic: I’m no Photoshop expert, but ISTM that faking something like that would be simple enough that even a RW “pundit” could do it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:46:32am

re: #239 Sir John Barron

I’m glad everyone who votes against someone because they’re supported by a Hollywood liberal skips the movies, Netflix, TV, etc.

I wish celebrities would shut up about politics say the people who elected the guy who had a reality show.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:46:47am

re: #238 Patricia Kayden

I love how vocal some of my favorite celebrities have been about politics. We need their voices.

I saw that Cher paid for buses to transport Native Americans to their polling places in ND.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:47:02am

re: #234 GlutenFreeJesus

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lolz

And those percentages would reflect…early voting perhaps.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:48:17am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

I wish celebrities would shut up about politics say the people who elected the guy who had a reality show.

DJT and his family are real basic down to earth have a beer with Americans who happen to live in a penthouse or gated mansions.

/

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:49:32am

re: #237 freetoken

Looking at the Florida early voting statistics, based on the primary results being an indicator of the general election results, it seems a lot of Democrats in Florida who get mail ballots never bother to return them:

countyballotfiles.elections.myflorida.com

they likely (hopefully?) end up going to the polls

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:51:27am

re: #246 Sir John Barron

DJT and his family are real basic down to earth have a beer with Americans who happen to live in a penthouse or gated mansions.

/

I love how Clooney responded to Trump calling him an elitist by pointing out his own background which is much more modest than Mr. My Daddy gave me a Million Dollar loan in the 70’s.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:53:24am

re: #247 dangerman

they likely (hopefully?) end up going to to polls

If one requests a mail ballot, don’t they have to use it, or bring it to the polling place to be invalidated?

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 6:54:29am

At least when I go to the polling place here in California, on the list of registered there is a clear indication that the mail ballot was sent, so one can’t sign in at the polling place.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:00:25am

re: #173 freetoken

In my long ballot, that I am reviewing before voting later this morning, Prop 10 is the hard one to decide.

I agree that rents are out of control.

But putting in stiff rent controls does not mean there will be a better situation.

It’s not really difficult - the market is the driving force behind rents. Contrary to the wingnuts (who are looking for any fantasy to downgrade California), people move here and continue to move here to live. That is what puts pressure on real estate, including rents.

While the local Democratic party is pro-10, I suspect that is more a sign of needing to identify with poor people than having a thought through policy.

Instead of rent control, I suggest that a large expansion of rent subsidies is what is needed, with the additional funds coming from increased property taxes.

This is where Prop 13 of old has really screwed us over - it has kept logical policies from being implemented.

Prop 10 doesn’t impose rent control, it allows localities to impose it. It’s not a solution to CA’s problems… but neither is allowing the kind of rent inflation we’re seeing (e.g. rents have ballooned here with no increase in landlords’ costs, and should evictions in order to raise rents really be okay?).

Perhaps you can tell that I’m for it.)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:03:36am

re: #220 lawhawk

Beware the late movement in the polls. It doesn’t happen nearly as much as one would think. The odds are that the GOP retains the Senate - mostly because far more Democrats were up in this cycle than GOPers. The odds are that the GOP may actually pick up a seat or two because of the underlying structure of this cycle in the Senate

I don’t think control of the Senate is going to change, I’m just surprised and pleased to see that.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:03:38am
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:04:30am

re: #251 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Yes, I realize that Prop 10 is not mandatory rent control but allows local communities to impose such.

Yet it is pretty clear that what will happen in the large cities that this type of rent control will simply mean fewer apartments being built.

The answer I’m proposing is a progressive property tax to fund meaningful (rather than token) renter’s credit on the state tax form.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:11:08am

re: #254 freetoken

Yes, I realize that Prop 10 is not mandatory rent control but allows local communities to impose such.

Yet it is pretty clear that what will happen in the large cities that this type of rent control will simply mean fewer apartments being built.

The answer I’m proposing is a progressive property tax to fund meaningful (rather than token) renter’s credit on the state tax form.

Is it really clear? And what falls under the rubric of “rent control” isn’t just rents, it’s rules on evictions, occupancy and much else. Plus, anything put in place would have to be passed by the voters. I’m simply in favor of removing a blanket prohibition of everything to do with rents and authority over the rules from any jurisdiction smaller than the whole state.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:11:28am

re: #253 Ace-o-aces

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mmmirele  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:11:58am

re: #250 freetoken

At least when I go to the polling place here in California, on the list of registered there is a clear indication that the mail ballot was sent, so one can’t sign in at the polling place.

I’m going to drop my mother’s ballot (in an envelope, signed by her and attested by me, all legal) at the polling place as soon as I get around. I took the day off from work, but so much for sleeping in as the groundspeople are out with their leafblowers. This is something I miss because I go into the office.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:13:15am

re: #256 freetoken

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Right. Why the hell do people have to be such pedantic dipshits about this? We’re both a democracy and a republic.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:14:26am

re: #255 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Campaigners in SF are already stated that they are going to push for more significant rent control in SF if Prop 10 passes.

I hear you about the inequalities in our society between those who control large amounts of property and those who depend on renting to exist.

I’d like to believe we could impose more humane ways of dealing with housing without significantly curtailing the building of new apartments.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:14:39am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Right. Why the hell do people have to be such pedantic dipshits about this? We’re both a democracy and a republic.

If you asked them what the difference is, what do you suppose they’d say?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:15:48am

re: #260 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

If you asked them what the difference is, what do you suppose they’d say?

I have no idea. The way I look at it is we combine forms of both. We’re a Republic in that we elect our officials but we’re a democracy in that we can and do vote on items too.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:15:51am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Right. Why the hell do people have to be such pedantic dipshits about this? We’re both a democracy and a republic.

The “We’re not a democracy, we’re a republic” talking point ranks up there with the Affirmative Action Bake Sale in the pantheon of wingnut derp.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:16:49am

re: #256 freetoken

Plus, at the state and local level, we directly vote on measures.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:18:28am
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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:18:46am

re: #259 freetoken

Annex Arizona, and take over Iowa. You can call it Cornifornia.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:20:22am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I have no idea. The way I look at it is we combine forms of both. We’re a Republic in that we elect our officials but we’re a democracy in that we can and do vote on items too.

There have been plenty of republics (not even getting into “Peoples’ Republics”) that were the last thing but democratic: Venice for example. I think they think a “democracy” is only like Periclean Athens, where public officials are chosen strictly by lot, like that guy wanted to bomb the National Mall in support of.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:23:14am

re: #259 freetoken

Campaigners in SF are already stated that they are going to push for more significant rent control in SF if Prop 10 passes.

I hear you about the inequalities in our society between those who control large amounts of property and those who depend on renting to exist.

I’d like to believe we could impose more humane ways of dealing with housing without significantly curtailing the building of new apartments.

Building new units in our current state does nothing to provide affordable housing to middle- and lower-income renters. That’s why we need some degree of local control over housing — it allows for more humane ways of dealing with housing for that group.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:24:21am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

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I couldn’t vote for Kim Shrier, because her district is next door, but I hope to hell she can win and finally convince Dino Rossi nobody wants him.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:24:48am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

I have no idea. The way I look at it is we combine forms of both. We’re a Republic in that we elect our officials but we’re a democracy in that we can and do vote on items too.

I, on the other hand, do have some idea. They would have no clue.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:25:34am

In the end names mean little, it’s what is practiced.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:26:02am

It’s bedtime here for me in the Middle Kingdom. Try to hold the republic, or democracy, … whatever … together until I wake up in another 7-8 hours. Thanks!

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Jay C  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:26:12am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Right. Why the hell do people have to be such pedantic dipshits about this? We’re both a democracy and a republic.

Mostly, the “republic not a democracy” arguments I’ve seen publicized stem almost entirely from the RW: it’s a handy rhetorical crutch for ideologues/extremists/elitists to try to ignore actual popular opinion on things.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:27:00am

re: #272 Jay C

Mostly, the “republic not a democracy” arguments I’ve seen publicized stem almost entirely from the RW: it’s a handy rhetorical crutch for ideologues/extremists/elitists to try to ignore actual popular opinion on things.

Yet they think basic civil rights i.e. marriage rights, who can screw who, etc should be up to the voters.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:27:51am

re: #266 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

There have been plenty of republics (not even getting into “Peoples’ Republics”) that were the last thing but democratic: Venice for example. I think they think a “democracy” is only like Periclean Athens, where public officials are chosen strictly by lot, like that guy wanted to bomb the National Mall in support of.

I suspect the distinction to RWNJ is that ‘democracy’ means universal suffrage, which they hate and would like to roll back. Although they love them some Andrew Jackson whose main contribution to American democracy the American republic is to have helped usher in…popular democracy (through the birth of the party machine and expanded suffrage to low income whites).

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:29:07am

re: #272 Jay C

Mostly, the “republic not a democracy” arguments I’ve seen publicized stem almost entirely from the RW: it’s a handy rhetorical crutch for ideologues/extremists/elitists to try to ignore actual popular opinion on things.

Although if popular opinion is on their side (“Everybody hates Obamacare”) then America’s elected leaders are supposed to defer to it.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:29:13am

re: #272 Jay C

It’s because the word “democracy” sounds like “Democratic” and the word “republic” sounds like “Republican”.

Really, that’s it.

Yes, it’s that shallow.

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:30:27am

re: #276 freetoken

It’s because the word “democracy” sounds like “Democratic” and the word “republic” sounds like “Republican”.

Really, that’s it.

Yes, it’s that shallow.

Exactly. It makes them feel as if the country is ‘theirs.’

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:31:04am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

Yet they think basic civil rights i.e. marriage rights, who can screw who, etc should be up to the voters.

They also make the distinction in defense of the electoral college, now that GOP presidential candidates are routinely losing the popular vote in presidential elections. But the moment a GOP candidate wins the popular vote and loses the EC, let’s see how principled their defense of the EC, and their preference for a republic over a democracy, is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:31:43am

re: #276 freetoken

It’s because the word “democracy” sounds like “Democratic” and the word “republic” sounds like “Republican”.

Really, that’s it.

Yes, it’s that shallow.

NORTH KOREA CALLS ITSELF DEMOCRATIC SO YOU LIBTARDS IS LIKE NORTH KOREA. // Yeah you’re right. They do argue like that just like they argue that the political parties are static in their 1860’s ideologies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:32:43am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

They also make the distinction in defense of the electoral college, now that GOP presidential candidates are routinely losing the popular vote in presidential elections. But the moment a GOP candidate wins the popular vote and loses the EC, let’s see how principled their defense of the EC, and their preference for a republic over a democracy, is.

As long as the GOP remains disproportionately represented in the less densely populated areas, they will continue to profess their love for the EC

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:33:27am

re: #272 Jay C

Mostly, the “republic not a democracy” arguments I’ve seen publicized stem almost entirely from the RW: it’s a handy rhetorical crutch for ideologues/extremists/elitists to try to ignore actual popular opinion on things.

Look, I think Batman summed up my argument pretty succinctly. That’s all I have to say on the matter.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:34:55am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:35:19am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:36:54am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

They also make the distinction in defense of the electoral college, now that GOP presidential candidates are routinely losing the popular vote in presidential elections. But the moment a GOP candidate wins the popular vote and loses the EC, let’s see how principled their defense of the EC, and their preference for a republic over a democracy, is.

If it weren’t for Karl Rove’s ratfuckery in Ohio, that would have happened in 2004 and the EC would be gone by now.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:38:18am

I’ve been voting in the same polling place for nearly a decade and never had to wait in a line until today. Unforunately, despite living in a blue city and county, my polling place is majority GOP voters.

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Broad With Sass  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:38:19am

re: #234 GlutenFreeJesus

No msnbc did post that, it was a booboo on the board during testing..I heard them talking about it..I was listening while I was cleaning at work

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:39:00am

re: #284 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If it weren’t for Karl Rove’s ratfuckery in Ohio, that would have happened in 2004 and the EC would be gone by now.

I will never forgive or respect Rove for the shit he, Mehlman, and the others pulled against Kerry but also using the homophobia and hostility towards LGBT rights to drive out the vote for Bush’s re-election. Elecotrally? It obviously worked but ethically and morally, fuck that shit, it was the modern version of using “Them blah people are moving to your neighborhood.” Of course, I do think the Kerry-Edwards ticket could have been a bit more strong in defense of LGBT rights.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:40:19am

re: #285 Dr. Matt

I’ve been voting in the same polling place for nearly a decade and never had to wait in a line until today. Unforunately, despite living in a blue city and county, my polling place is majority GOP voters.

Light blue county here but red state senate and delegate area as is my precinct. It was kind of funny when I gave out sample ballots one primary. The older guy doing it with me was guessing which ones were going our way and which were going theirs.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:40:56am

Good morning Lizards

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:43:24am

re: #172 Single-handed sailor

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:43:30am

re: #289 bd(soros funded)

Good morning Lizards

I have been attacked by geese and they are awfully mean

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:43:36am

re: #289 bd(soros funded)

Good morning Lizards

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3 year old me can vouch. Canadian geese are the worst thing to come out of Canada other than Ted Cruz.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:44:18am

re: #290 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Doesn’t surprise me. Man I hope Macron can survive re-election. France has been flirting with the far right far more than Germany has.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:44:28am

of course, no matter what they’re going to spin it
heck, they’ve written the three or four narratives weeks ago

this is not a bad analysis: washpo

The GOP’s looming spin about the 2018 election is a fallacy

The reason Republicans might gain seats {in the senate] is pretty simple: The map is distorted. Democrats had to defend 10 states that went for Trump, while Republicans had to defend only one that went for Hillary Clinton (Nevada). If Republicans gain seats, it’s almost definitely going to be in territory Trump won by double digits. These are states they should be winning; they just happen to be held by Democrats because 2006 and 2012 — the last time these seats were up — were both good Democratic years.

The point is that if we had anything amounting to a neutral map, we’d almost definitely be talking about a Senate takeover by Democrats. …defending these red states in a good year for Democrats might be the best thing that could have happened for them, even if they don’t actually gain seats, because they were actually hold-able under these circumstances.

the story isnt how R’s managed to keep the senate and maybe gain a seat. it’s why was it so close in so many races in the first place? the swing in all these districts that trump won +10, +15, +20 to nearly even is…..encouraging

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:45:04am

re: #285 Dr. Matt

I wonder if one reason people are reporting long lines is because the number of polling places have been reduced?

Seems to be what has happened around here. Used to be I could walk a couple of blocks to my polling place, now I have to walk a mile.

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sagehen  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:45:51am

re: #227 Unshaken Defiance

Honestly thinking of having a strict media blackout tonight. The results will be what they will be. Tomorrow is soon enough to know, and there is value in avoiding the stress.

If it helps, TCM’s double bill tonight is Casablanca and Best Years of Our Lives.

First a movie about fighting fascism when the outcome is still uncertain, then one about the cost realized afterward for those who beat it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:45:53am

Back from voting. Only one machine, no line. One woman leaving as I walked into the fire station, three voters coming in as I was leaving.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:46:55am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Right. Why the hell do people have to be such pedantic dipshits about this? We’re both a democracy and a republic.

I always say, “Draw a circle. Label it ‘democracies’. Draw a smaller circle completely within the first circle. Label it ‘republics’. NOW do you understand?”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:47:22am

re: #294 dangerman

of course, no matter what they’re going to spin it
heck, they’ve written the three or four narratives weeks ago

this is not a bad analysis: washpo

the story isnt how R’s managed to keep the senate and maybe gain a seat. it’s why was it so close in so many races in the first place? the swing in all these districts that trump won +10, +15, +20 to nearly even is…..encouraging

The Post is correct about this. Hell Donnelly and Heitcamp both were big surprises in 2012 and they benefited from their opponents’ stupidity. McCaskill likewise benefited from Legitimate Rape Akin in 2012. I’d love to retake the Senate but the odds even though this should be a good day on the House side don’t favor it because of exactly those metrics the Post is talking about here.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:47:50am

re: #272 Jay C

Mostly, the “republic not a democracy” arguments I’ve seen publicized stem almost entirely from the RW: it’s a handy rhetorical crutch for ideologues/extremists/elitists to try to ignore actual popular opinion on things.

any quibbling, pedantic or rhetorical argument to make the other side “wrong”
because wrong at this means wrong at everything
and that means open borders and gun registries
and socialism

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:48:00am
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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:48:37am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have been attacked by geese and they are awfully mean

Geese are assholes. Full stop.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:48:50am

2020 is going to be interesting because a lot of Republicans who won big in 2014 will now have a more likely Democratic favored electorate. That’s hust how things go sometimes. Election numbers are a funny thing.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:51:01am
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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:52:35am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have been attacked by geese and they are awfully mean

i was goosed once
no. twice

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:54:47am

re: #302 makeitstop

Geese are assholes. Full stop.

I bet Trump likes geese.

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nowherenorth2  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:55:54am

Voted today. Straight d ticket.

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SteelPH  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:55:55am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

I bet Trump likes geese.

They’re very fine birds!
/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 7:55:55am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

I bet Trump likes geese.

deep-fried…

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:00:28am

re: #223 lawhawk

I agree - even if there’s a 51-49 advantage, there’s usually a GOP Senator who isn’t available, and the Democrats could push legislation out to the point of requiring Pence to live in the Senate chamber.

Mother would not approve, or would she?

Morning!

Went out and got my flu shot for the season. Usually do not get one as generally I am pretty healthy and can fight it off. But getting too close to 65, so I decided to get a shot this year and probably into the future.

Regarding “Mother” Pence, I’ve seen some articles over the last year that claim “Mother” does not like Trump at all and is often disgusted by some of what Trump does, like immigration mess and some women’s issues.

And this was from Chris Hayes at MSNBC back last December. It goes into Pence’s groveling to get to his glory with gawd.

Second Lady Karen Pence Finds Donald Trump “Totally Vile” | All In | MSNBC

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:00:40am

re: #302 makeitstop

Geese are assholes. Full stop.

They even figured out a way to not taste good, f*ckers.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:01:06am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

I bet Trump likes geese.

Only the white ones

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:03:52am

re: #301 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

AZ MIDTERMS- POLLING PLACE FORECLOSED- VO TUE0161- Polls in Maricopa County and Arizona opened at 6am but some Valley locations are already experiencing issues. Three polling places are currently down, incl in the Gila Precinct in Chandler. The building was foreclosed overnight.

That is a fucking premeditated act if there ever was one

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:04:52am

re: #302 makeitstop

Geese are assholes. Full stop.

I used to go to the Kenmore Air Harbor at the north end of Lake Washington, where there are an enormous number of ducks that people like to feed. Actually, about 10% of them are coots. Come to find out, when you call someone an old coot, it’s not a compliment. Who knew?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:05:18am

re: #310 ObserverArt

Morning!

Went out and got my flu shot for the season. Usually do not get one as generally I am pretty healthy and can fight it off. But getting too close to 65, so I decided to get a shot this year and probably into the future.

Regarding “Mother” Pence, I’ve seen some articles over the last year that claim “Mother” does not like Trump at all and is often disgusted by some of what Trump does, like immigration mess and some women’s issues.

And this was from Chris Hayes at MSNBC back last December. It goes into Pence’s groveling to get to his glory with gawd.

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I wouldn’t be surprised by that. I mean I’m sure on most issues she’s totally at odds with what I stand for but she deals with Trump and definitely knows he’s a fraud especially on religion.

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:07:38am

My wife and I are going out to vote shortly. Tonight, we’re having a few friends over for dinner and returns.

I told my wife we have to eat early in case the returns make us all lose our appetite. /

But seriously - I’m feeling oddly calm and generally pretty positive for some reason. Barring any egregious fuckery, we’ll probably be able to start fitting Preznit Blabbermouth with a muzzle tomorrow.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:08:40am

re: #304 freetoken

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:09:25am
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Kilroy was here  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:10:37am

re: #301 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Update

(Source: 3TV/CBS 5)
Fontes says they were having a building access issue at their Gila Precinct in Chandler. The building was foreclosed overnight.

Fontes says the building was up and running at 7 a.m.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:11:14am

re: #173 freetoken

In my long ballot, that I am reviewing before voting later this morning, Prop 10 is the hard one to decide.

I agree that rents are out of control.

But putting in stiff rent controls does not mean there will be a better situation.

It’s not really difficult - the market is the driving force behind rents. Contrary to the wingnuts (who are looking for any fantasy to downgrade California), people move here and continue to move here to live. That is what puts pressure on real estate, including rents.

While the local Democratic party is pro-10, I suspect that is more a sign of needing to identify with poor people than having a thought through policy.

Instead of rent control, I suggest that a large expansion of rent subsidies is what is needed, with the additional funds coming from increased property taxes.

This is where Prop 13 of old has really screwed us over - it has kept logical policies from being implemented.

I voted YES on 10. We got a letter from the management company saying our rents will go down if we vote No on 10.

Jarvis said the same lies when Prop 13 passed.

Rents doubled.

When I moved into my apartment in 1988 my rent was 390. Now it is 1000. Same apartment.

YES on 10!

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:11:58am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

I wouldn’t be surprised by that. I mean I’m sure on most issues she’s totally at odds with what I stand for but she deals with Trump and definitely knows he’s a fraud especially on religion.

as long as my husband is VP i dont care
sure, i find his boss odious
but then, VP over any display of actual principles, right?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:12:16am

re: #307 nowherenorth2

Voted today. Straight d ticket.

Wife and I just getting back from polls. All dem votes here. She is going to pick up the boy from college now that his classes are done for the day so he can vote.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:13:33am

re: #316 makeitstop

My wife and I are going out to vote shortly. Tonight, we’re having a few friends over for dinner and returns.

I told my wife we have to eat early in case the returns make us all lose our appetite. /

But seriously - I’m feeling oddly calm and generally pretty positive for some reason. Barring any egregious fuckery, we’ll probably be able to start fitting Preznit Blabbermouth with a muzzle tomorrow.

I’ve tried to be pretty guarded about this, thinking we’re bound to lose a seat or two in the Senate and maybe take the House.

But I have to admit now I’d be pretty disappointed if Dems didn’t win the House now.

Still, even if the worst happens, I will try to stubbornly stick to the long view and not get overwhelmed by periodic setbacks.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:13:50am

re: #317 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

UPDATE: No one knows anything, but 12 hours of content needs to be filled

what i said yesterday:

on keeping your sanity and mental health this election day

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:13:51am

re: #321 dangerman

as long as my husband is VP i dont care
sure, i find his boss odious
but then, VP over any display of actual principles, right?

Oh don’t take what I said as saying I like her or her husband but I don’t disbelieve for a second she finds Trump personally odious as I’m sure Pence himself does. I bet he definitely puked a little inside when Trump said no one has done more ror religion than he has.

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:13:54am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Right. Why the hell do people have to be such pedantic dipshits about this? We’re both a democracy and a republic.

Simpleton thinking: If you are a Republican you are part of a Republic. If you are a Democrat you are part of a Democracy.

And never shall the twain meet!

See how simple this all is.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:14:32am

re: #316 makeitstop

My wife and I are going out to vote shortly. Tonight, we’re having a few friends over for dinner and returns.

I told my wife we have to eat early in case the returns make us all lose our appetite. /

But seriously - I’m feeling oddly calm and generally pretty positive for some reason. Barring any egregious fuckery, we’ll probably be able to start fitting Preznit Blabbermouth with a muzzle tomorrow.

It’s weird…in 2016, I just knew intellectually that tRump couldn’t possibly win, but went into the election with a sick feeling in my stomach. This time, I know intellectually that just about anything can happen, but I’ve got a good feeling about it. So that’s…backwards. Hope I’m right!

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Teukka  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:15:25am

re: #264 The Vicious Babushka

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If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck etc. etc. etc…
Not ///.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:16:06am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:16:33am

re: #327 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s weird…in 2016, I just knew intellectually that tRump couldn’t possibly win, but went into the election with a sick feeling in my stomach. This time, I know intellectually that just about anything can happen, but I’ve got a good feeling about it. So that’s…backwards. Hope I’m right!

See I felt optimistic two years ago. This time I’m optimistic but much more cautious about it. I’m still going to the Wexton election party tonight though and maybe some of you all will see me on TV lol since I think CNN will be there. We’re a swing district. Went for Clinton but we have a R Congresswoman who hopefully is going bye bye today. I’ll likely be wearing my Don’t Blame Me, I voted for Kodos shirt. Not sure if I should wear it to the polls though.

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:17:29am

re: #276 freetoken

It’s because the word “democracy” sounds like “Democratic” and the word “republic” sounds like “Republican”.

Really, that’s it.

Yes, it’s that shallow.

Dammit! I shoulda knowed someone would go there…you can’t be an hour plus behind in threads and try to get a joke in.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:17:54am

re: #310 ObserverArt

Morning!

Went out and got my flu shot for the season. Usually do not get one as generally I am pretty healthy and can fight it off. But getting too close to 65, so I decided to get a shot this year and probably into the future.

Regarding “Mother” Pence, I’ve seen some articles over the last year that claim “Mother” does not like Trump at all and is often disgusted by some of what Trump does, like immigration mess and some women’s issues.

And this was from Chris Hayes at MSNBC back last December. It goes into Pence’s groveling to get to his glory with gawd.

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The fact that Mrs. Pence doesn’t like Trump is irrelevant. Unless she speaks out against him, who cares? The fact that she finds him vile is meaningless if she remains quiet.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:18:13am

re: #318 makeitstop

My wife and I got back from voting and found our 5yo in tears that she didn’t get to come. So I took her to the polling place and gave her a little patriotic talk about America and democracy.

On the way back she told me she thought mom had said we went “boating.”

— McKay Coppins (@mckaycoppins) November 6, 2018

They left the 5 year old home alone?

//

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:18:18am

re: #294 dangerman

of course, no matter what they’re going to spin it
heck, they’ve written the three or four narratives weeks ago

this is not a bad analysis: washpo

the story isnt how R’s managed to keep the senate and maybe gain a seat. it’s why was it so close in so many races in the first place? the swing in all these districts that trump won +10, +15, +20 to nearly even is…..encouraging

I remember 2012…some of the wackos the R’s put up for the Senate that year, Akin, some crazy dude in Indiana, crazy lady not a witch in Delaware (not sure if that was 2012 or another year). They could have had larger majorities sooner. So we’ve been fortunate in a way.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:18:50am

Good morning this Election Day, everyone. Best of luck.

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:19:25am

First good news of the day, let’s keep ‘em coming!

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:19:33am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

See I felt optimistic two years ago. This time I’m optimistic but much more cautious about it. I’m still going to the Wexton election party tonight though and maybe some of you all will see me on TV lol since I think CNN will be there. We’re a swing district. Went for Clinton but we have a R Congresswoman who hopefully is going bye bye today. I’ll likely be wearing my Don’t Blame Me, I voted for Kodos shirt. Not sure if I should wear it to the polls though.

Alright now I have to watch all the coverage

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:20:12am

re: #336 Archangelus

First good news of the day, let’s keep ‘em coming!

Is he running or retiring?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:20:39am

re: #334 Sir John Barron

I remember 2012…some of the wackos the R’s put up for the Senate that year, Akin, some crazy dude in Indiana, crazy lady not a witch in Delaware (not sure if that was 2012 or another year). They could have had larger majorities sooner. So we’ve been fortunate in a way.

Christine the non witch was 2010. That one they fucked because they could have nominated Mike Castle, a reasonable moderate Republican and longtime Delaware mainstay. But yeah 2012 had all the stupid crap by candidates like Akin, Mourdock(whom you’re thinking of Indiana who called a pregnancy via rape a blessing), and the guy that Heitcamp beat in ND said some pretty stupid shit too that helped her.

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:20:49am

re: #284 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If it weren’t for Karl Rove’s ratfuckery in Ohio, that would have happened in 2004 and the EC would be gone by now.

It wasn’t Karl Rove, it was Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell.

Rove was just counting on him.

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calochortus  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:20:59am

re: #338 Sir John Barron

Is he running or retiring?

Retiring.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:21:02am

re: #336 Archangelus

First good news of the day, let’s keep ‘em coming!

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Oh wow.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:23:42am
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Kilroy was here  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:24:40am

re: #338 Sir John Barron

Is he running or retiring?

Retiring

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:25:05am

Issa is retiring, his successor is getting the boot, now for Rohrabacher to get lost and this California-born-and-raised Democrat to start celebrating…

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:25:50am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

See I felt optimistic two years ago. This time I’m optimistic but much more cautious about it. I’m still going to the Wexton election party tonight though and maybe some of you all will see me on TV lol since I think CNN will be there. We’re a swing district. Went for Clinton but we have a R Congresswoman who hopefully is going bye bye today. I’ll likely be wearing my Don’t Blame Me, I voted for Kodos shirt. Not sure if I should wear it to the polls though.

‘last time’ two things were askew

- one was some of the polling was off - way off
- the other was a lot of people didnt pay enough attention to “a 2% chance doesnt mean zero”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:25:55am

re: #345 Archangelus

Issa is retiring, his successor is getting the boot, now for Rohrabacher to get lost and this California-born-and-raised Democrat to start celebrating…

Nunes going bye bye would be nice too but that one is the least likely of the three.

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danarchy  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:26:06am

re: #320 Joe Bacon 🌹

I voted YES on 10. We got a letter from the management company saying our rents will go down if we vote No on 10.

Jarvis said the same lies when Prop 13 passed.

Rents doubled.

When I moved into my apartment in 1988 my rent was 390. Now it is 1000. Same apartment.

YES on 10!

Maybe it’s just me, but that seems like it is more or less keeping up with inflation.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:26:12am

If all you have to do today is chew your nails (I suppose most of you have to work), then go ye and help to get out the vote.

I will be taking the three-hour trip to the central valley to GOTV in district 10. And tomorrow, win, lose or draw, I won’t have to do political work. First time in ages, it feels like.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:26:18am

re: #346 dangerman

‘last time’ two things were askew

- one was some of the polling was off - way off
- the other was a lot of people didnt pay enough attention to “a 2% chance doesnt mean zero”

Yes especially the latter.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:26:39am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Oh don’t take what I said as saying I like her or her husband but I don’t disbelieve for a second she finds Trump personally odious as I’m sure Pence himself does. I bet he definitely puked a little inside when Trump said no one has done more ror religion than he has.

He sees Trump as a tool in helping him and his like fulfill god’s will on earth

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:26:59am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

Back from voting. Only one machine, no line. One woman leaving as I walked into the fire station, three voters coming in as I was leaving.

Was the weather cooperating? Yesterday you were concerned you might have to float your way there. It looks like the rain passed by last night so hopefully there was no flooding.

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:27:18am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Nunes going bye bye would be nice too but that one is the least likely of the three.

Oh yeah, i’m not even mentally contemplating Nunes getting a well-deserved political blow.
That would be a damn fine cherry on top…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:28:38am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He sees Trump as a tool in helping him and his like fulfill god’s will on earth

I’m aware of that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:29:06am

re: #346 dangerman

‘last time’ two things were askew

- one was some of the polling was off - way off
- the other was a lot of people didnt pay enough attention to “a 2% chance doesnt mean zero”

Nate Silver caught a lot of shit before the election for being too pessimistic, telling people that 2 out of 3 chance is not a guarantee, because the 1 out of 3 chance happens.

Then he caught shit after the election for having told everyone it was in the bag - which he didn’t.

A prophet is without honor in his own country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:29:45am

re: #353 Archangelus

Oh yeah, i’m not even mentally contemplating Nunes getting a well-deserved political blow.
That would be a damn fine cherry on top…

I want my own district to flip obviously but the one I really want to flip outside of my district and state is Steve King. Steve King doesn’t belong in an American legislative body. He belongs in the NSDAP circa 1935.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:30:55am

re: #355 Blind Frog Belly White

Nate Silver caught a lot of shit before the election for being too pessimistic, telling people that 2 out of 3 chance is not a guarantee, because the 1 out of 3 chance happens.

Then he caught shit after the election for having told everyone it was in the bag - which he didn’t.

A prophet is without honor in his own country.

Exactly. There was so much ignorance about Nate and his predictions two years ago. He didn’t get it wrong. He was talking about probability. And yeah the odds did favor HRC, that’s why it was a surprise she lost but that was lost on some people who were understandably upset or gleeful about the results.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:32:10am

Steve King and Ted Cruz deserve to rot in Hell and lose bigly. Nothing would make be happier this year than seeing those two assholes go down.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:32:20am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Christine the non witch was 2010. That one they fucked because they could have nominated Mike Castle, a reasonable moderate Republican and longtime Delaware mainstay. But yeah 2012 had all the stupid crap by candidates like Akin, Mourdock(whom you’re thinking of Indiana who called a pregnancy via rape a blessing), and the guy that Heitcamp beat in ND said some pretty stupid shit too that helped her.

Yeah Mourdock was the one I was forgetting. And Castle in DE would have been a tough out. Popular, had been congressman (DE has or had only one) and Governor.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:33:32am

re: #358 Dr. Matt

Steve King and Ted Cruz deserve to rot in Hell and lose bigly. Nothing would make be happier this year than seeing those two assholes go down.

Yes, Cruz is the one I want to lose most in the Senate. No one else comes close IMO. I would laugh evilly if Romney lost somehow but I think Romney could put Seamus back on the top of the car right now and he would still win. Too bad because Mitt while not as terrible as those two needs to go the fuck away.

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Done Ben Wrote  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:33:34am

re: #302 makeitstop

How to deal with geese that are harassing you to get off their grass, sidewalk, parking lot, yard, patio, or whatever:

If a goose comes toward you—head toward it, arms spread, hissing. You have just told the goose that they are wrong, it is your grass, sidewalk or whatever. The goose will decide that you are the biggest, baddest goddam goose it has ever seen, and will move out of your way.

Caveat: This will not work if the goose is protecting its nest or young. Then you just let it borrow your grass, sidewalk, patio, or whatever. Unless you can borrow a border collie.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:33:41am

re: #355 Blind Frog Belly White

Nate Silver caught a lot of shit before the election for being too pessimistic, telling people that 2 out of 3 chance is not a guarantee, because the 1 out of 3 chance happens.

Then he caught shit after the election for having told everyone it was in the bag - which he didn’t.

A prophet is without honor in his own country.

well math (and statistics) is hard
so people prefer their own boiled down versions

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:34:16am

re: #334 Sir John Barron

I remember 2012…some of the wackos the R’s put up for the Senate that year, Akin, some crazy dude in Indiana, crazy lady not a witch in Delaware (not sure if that was 2012 or another year). They could have had larger majorities sooner. So we’ve been fortunate in a way.

And who was the crazy lady in Nevada who blew a shoe-in race?

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:34:51am

re: #332 Patricia Kayden

The fact that Mrs. Pence doesn’t like Trump is irrelevant. Unless she speaks out against him, who cares? The fact that she finds him vile is meaningless if she remains quiet.

I didn’t post the video to be relevant. It was posted to answer Lawhawks comment.

Can’t we have a little fun poking at the hypocrisy of it all?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:35:02am

re: #359 Sir John Barron

Yeah Mourdock was the one I was forgetting.

He was the one that primaried Lugar. No way Lugar loses that seat. He’s been pretty quiet in his retirement unlike my former Republican Senator Warner who seems to have endorsed a straight Dem ticket this fall- he supported Gillespie last fall but he’s supporting Kaine and the Dems running for Congress form what I can see. Good on him. He’s always had an independent streak going back to his opposing Bork’s nomination.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:35:21am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And who was the crazy lady in Nevada who blew a shoe-in race?

Angle. That was 2010 as well against Reid.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:35:55am

Sue Lowden, the Republican front-runner to win a Senate seat in Nevada, says chickens make great health insurance.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:35:58am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And who was the crazy lady in Nevada who blew a shoe-in race?

Sharron Angle, the “Pay your doctor in chickens” lady.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:36:21am

re: #364 ObserverArt

I didn’t post the video to be relevant. It was posted to answer Lawhawks comment.

Can’t we have a little fun poking at the hypocrisy of it all?

I think sometimes we’re a bit too literal minded. Says the guy with the condition that causes him and others to be well a bit literal minded :). I’m not surprised she doesn’t like him. And I understand that she’s definitely a hypocrite.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:36:48am

re: #367 Kilroy was here

Sue Lowden, the Republican front-runner to win a Senate seat in Nevada, says chickens make great health insurance.

2ND AMENDMENT SOLUTIONS!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:37:35am

They really bungled it here in by nominating Corey Stewart too. Kaine would be favored either way but I don’t know too many Virginians let alone Virginia Republicans who love Corey Stewart.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:37:54am

re: #361 Done Ben Wrote

How to deal with geese that are harassing you to get off their grass, sidewalk, parking lot, yard, patio, or whatever:

If a goose comes toward you—head toward it, arms spread, hissing. You have just told the goose that they are wrong, it is your grass, sidewalk or whatever. The goose will decide that you are the biggest, baddest goddam goose it has ever seen, and will move out of your way.

Caveat: This will not work if the goose is protecting its nest or young. Then you just let it borrow your grass, sidewalk, patio, or whatever. Unless you can borrow a border collie.

really?
“get off my lawn”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:39:45am

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Angle. That was 2010 as well against Reid.

Reid was not particularly well liked and could have been easily defeated by any non-crazy person

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:41:22am

The VA GOP really has become rudderless since McDonnell was exposed as a crook. Meanwhile the Dem bench here in Va has gotten stronger since both Warner and Kaine “graduated” on to the Senate. Warner will be up in 2020. I have no idea who the VA GOP will run against him. We’ve made it clear that we don’t like Ed Gillespie and we’re about to do the same for Corey Stewart so maybe the guy that the GOP estabishment wanted against Kaine but I dunno.

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Done Ben Wrote  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:41:24am

re: #372 dangerman

Shaking a cane at them might help. I haven’t tried that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:41:51am

re: #373 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Reid was not particularly well liked and could have been easily defeated by any non-crazy person

Yes but that was the year the GOP was nominating crazies left and right.

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sagehen  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:42:51am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

See I felt optimistic two years ago. This time I’m optimistic but much more cautious about it.

In 2016 I felt pretty confident a week or two before; but the bottom dropped out of my stomach when I heard Hillary had cancelled the fireworks show. That was a pretty big clue that her team knew she was in trouble.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:44:16am

re: #377 sagehen

In 2016 I felt pretty confident a week or two before; but the bottom dropped out of my stomach when I heard Hillary had cancelled the fireworks show. That was a pretty big clue that her team knew she was in trouble.

Ahhh I think I missed that. Man that was a horrible evening.

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jeffreyw  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:44:43am

We voted in this town hall building in my very rural district this morning - no wait. Fill in the ovals paper ballot. No straight ticket voting so I had to fill in the oval next to every Democrat. No levies or anything else on the sheet - just people running for office and the judge retention list.

Imgur

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:45:45am

re: #368 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sharron Angle, the “Pay your doctor in chickens” lady.

Holy crap forgot about her, too. Really dodged a bullet there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:47:03am

The problem with the Virginia GOP is they don’t have anyone that understands or more importantly WANTS to understand NoVa. And at the risk of sounding like a snob but I’ll say it, this state wouldn’t be nearly as prosperous without the northern and liberal part. The parts of the state where Republicans do the best and have grown strength in recent years are the parts of the state that frankly are not. And they seem to resent us up here because of our liberalism and not being hostile to outsiders. Many of us my own family included are either children of transplants or transplants but then again a lot of the extreme elements of the VA GOP are too. Corey Stewart is from Minnesota.

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:47:41am

We’re back from the polling place.

STRAIGHT DEM TICKET, BITCHEZZZZZ! (Did you expect otherwise?)

From the look of it, turnout is extremely heavy so far. When we voted on primary day, we went in the noon hour and we were ballots #7 and 8. This time we went in an hour earlier, and my wife was #195 and I was #196.

There are a lot of Trumpers around here, though. I’m expecting Democrats to do well in the county races and top of the ticket. A nice long shot for us would be if Liuba Shirley took down Pete King (R-IRA), but he’s pretty firmly dug in around these parts so I’m really not expecting him to lose.

Too bad - I’m so tired of seeing his big ugly head on TV all these years.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:47:41am

re: #380 Sir John Barron

Holy crap forgot about her, too. Really dodged a bullet there.

Joe Miller in Alaska. He beat Murkowski but she beat him in the write in. I’m not a fan of hers really but it’s better she’s had that seat the past eight years than Miller.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:48:17am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

He was the one that primaried Lugar. No way Lugar loses that seat. He’s been pretty quiet in his retirement unlike my former Republican Senator Warner who seems to have endorsed a straight Dem ticket this fall- he supported Gillespie last fall but he’s supporting Kaine and the Dems running for Congress form what I can see. Good on him. He’s always had an independent streak going back to his opposing Bork’s nomination.

I coulda swore I heard that Lugar had died recently, but according to Wiki he is still with us.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:49:49am

re: #381 HappyWarrior

The problem with the Virginia GOP is they don’t have anyone that understands or more importantly WANTS to understand NoVa. And at the risk of sounding like a snob but I’ll say it, this state wouldn’t be nearly as prosperous without the northern and liberal part. The parts of the state where Republicans do the best and have grown strength in recent years are the parts of the state that frankly are not. And they seem to resent us up here because of our liberalism and not being hostile to outsiders. Many of us my own family included are either children of transplants or transplants but then again a lot of the extreme elements of the VA GOP are too. Corey Stewart is from Minnesota.

I guess Kaine and Warner are young enough to run for a couple more terms but hopefully by then the VA Dems will have candidates to replace them when they retire.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:50:17am

re: #383 HappyWarrior

Joe Miller in Alaska. He beat Murkowski but she beat him in the write in. I’m not a fan of hers really but it’s better she’s had that seat the past eight years than Miller.

Oh yeah, him, too. Sheesh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:50:19am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Yes but that was the year the GOP was nominating crazies left and right.

They still do it, it’s just that they stand out less and less. Roy Moore’s defeat was more an exception than a rule…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:50:22am

El Paso CBP exercise canceled

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:50:49am

re: #384 Sir John Barron

I coulda swore I heard that Lugar had died recently, but according to Wiki he is still with us.

Yeah you don’t hear much at all from him which is honestly surprising. Perhaps he just wants to enjoy retirement. He had a lot of time in public life even before he became Indiana’s Senator. I believe Indianapolis’ mayor in 1968. He seemed like a decent guy to me. More conservative than me personally but a decent guy much like Chuck Hagel was and not surprisingly he was someone that Obama as a Senator worked with on foreign policy issues since Lugar was a FP guy and not a culture warrior.

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:51:01am

Oldie but goodie - and a reminder of what’s at stake (holding Trumpworld accountable for their criminality and corruption):

THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED - Randy Rainbow Song Parody

Yeah, Mueller’s out there waiting to drop the mic on Junior, Trump, and everyone else he hasn’t yet indicted but who all know they’re getting cued up by Manafort, Papadopoulos, Gates, and Flynn.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:51:09am

re: #388 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

El Paso CBP exercise canceled

DJT rage tweets in 5…4…3

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:51:40am

re: #385 Sir John Barron

I guess Kaine and Warner are young enough to run for a couple more terms but hopefully by then the VA Dems will have candidates to replace them when they retire.

Our current Lt Governor is only 38. I wouldn’t be surprised if Justin Fairfax seeks higher office one day.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:52:03am

re: #387 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They still do it, it’s just that they stand out less and less. Roy Moore’s defeat was more an exception than a rule…

Oh I know.

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A Cranky One  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:52:07am

re: #361 Done Ben Wrote

How to deal with geese that are harassing you to get off their grass, sidewalk, parking lot, yard, patio, or whatever:

If a goose comes toward you—head toward it, arms spread, hissing. You have just told the goose that they are wrong, it is your grass, sidewalk or whatever. The goose will decide that you are the biggest, baddest goddam goose it has ever seen, and will move out of your way.

Caveat: This will not work if the goose is protecting its nest or young. Then you just let it borrow your grass, sidewalk, patio, or whatever. Unless you can borrow a border collie.

There was a goose that was terrorizing people walking through a central courtyard where I worked. I was going through when it charged me. I hissed, raised my arms like spreading wings and charged toward the goose. As you note, it backed off quickly. What I didn’t expect was that while the goose continued to harass everybody else, it let me walk through the courtyard without challenge after that.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:52:55am

Happy election day my fellow lizards! May the SMOD shine it’s blessings upon us and incinerate the scourge of the GOP. We shall witness the lamentations of the Turtle and Cheetolini this very night as thousands of MAGAts have their dreams of white supremacy crushed into dust! Excelsior!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:54:16am

Russian bots are desperate.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:55:22am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Russian bots are desperate.

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Glenn and his assholes are so happy to spread misinformation.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:56:24am

re: #396 The Vicious Babushka

Russian bots are desperate.

President Hillary Clinton has been a complete disaster.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:02am

re: #398 Sir John Barron

President Hillary Clinton has been a complete disaster.

She should be impeached! // Just ask scholar Jacob Wohl.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:13am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

Yeah you don’t hear much at all from him which is honestly surprising. Perhaps he just wants to enjoy retirement. He had a lot of time in public life even before he became Indiana’s Senator. I believe Indianapolis’ mayor in 1968. He seemed like a decent guy to me. More conservative than me personally but a decent guy much like Chuck Hagel was and not surprisingly he was someone that Obama as a Senator worked with on foreign policy issues since Lugar was a FP guy and not a culture warrior.

I was always fond of him. He’s a throwback to the old-style Republicans who cared about the country. I may not have agreed with all his policies but would have been perfectly comfortable with a Republican Senate that consisted of Senators with his ethics and outlook.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:13am

re: #348 danarchy

Maybe it’s just me, but that seems like it is more or less keeping up with inflation.

Wish my paycheck went from 577 to 1800..

YES ON 10!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:00:11am

re: #400 Hecuba’s daughter

I was always fond of him. He’s a throwback to the old-style Republicans who cared about the country. I may not have agreed with all his policies but would have been perfectly comfortable with a Republican Senate that consisted of Senators with his ethics and outlook.

Ditto. He seems to be someone who came from the Ford wing of the party. More conservative than the Eisenhower and later Rockefeller wing perhaps but amiable on personal levels and willing to listen to the left without resorting to OMG YOU’RE COMMIES. Gingrich’s take over of the GOP House in the early 90’s was less ideological and more stylistic.

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Jay C  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:00:14am

re: #345 Archangelus

Issa is retiring, his successor is getting the boot, now for Rohrabacher to get lost and this California-born-and-raised Democrat to start celebrating…

CA-50 is the odd race here: the (R) incumbent, Duncan Hunter, is under Federal indictment for campaign-finance “irregularities” (basically embezzlement, AFAICT), and yet, is still favored to win.
Even a Republican Asshole Crook deserves his day in court, though: but I wonder what the House will do if Hunter is convicted.
IIRC, the only way to force a vacancy in a House seat is by a 2/3 vote (which presumably would also force a special election): but then again, this is the 2018 Republican Party…..

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:00:26am

J-Cob was in another one of those hipster coffee shops this morning:

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:00:50am

A guy can dream, can’t he? :D

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:01:31am

re: #404 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

J-Cob was in another one of those hipster coffee shops this morning:

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Uh huh. Sure Jacob.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:01:37am

re: #346 dangerman

‘last time’ two things were askew

- one was some of the polling was off - way off
- the other was a lot of people didnt pay enough attention to “a 2% chance doesnt mean zero”

On November 8, Nate Silver gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning.

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:01:40am

re: #382 makeitstop

We’re back from the polling place.

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From the look of it, turnout is extremely heavy so far. When we voted on primary day, we went in the noon hour and we were ballots #7 and 8. This time we went in an hour earlier, and my wife was #195 and I was #196.

There are a lot of Trumpers around here, though. I’m expecting Democrats to do well in the county races and top of the ticket. A nice long shot for us would be if Liuba Shirley took down Pete King (R-IRA), but he’s pretty firmly dug in around these parts so I’m really not expecting him to lose.

Too bad - I’m so tired of seeing his big ugly head on TV all these years.

I’m sick of Pete King too!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:02:08am

re: #405 Archangelus

2018: Dems retake the house, maybe the senate.
2020: Dems definitely take the senate, also the presidency.
2021: Dem president appoints Michelle Obama to Supreme Court.
2021 (shortly after): GOP sustains further losses after leaders, supporters’ heads explode

success is never linear, but I really want to see people wake up from 2016

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:03:34am

re: #405 Archangelus

A guy can dream, can’t he? :D

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To be truthful I kind of feared something like this even if HRC won in 2016. I feared serious Dem in the WH fatigue by 2020. I’m NOT saying it’s a good thing HRC lost and I will never get over my disgust of election night 2016 but I’m hoping that maybe that there will be some silver lining in the end that will make the 20’s a good decade for Democrats and liberals.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:04:01am

re: #405 Archangelus

A guy can dream, can’t he? :D

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When in this timeline does Bibi go to jail?

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:04:41am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

She should be impeached! // Just ask scholar Jacob Wohl.

I thought he was impeaching Obama first?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:04:45am

But yeah I see this election as the baseball season where we don’t quite win the pennant and WS but we’re encouraged going into the next election and that’s where we win it all. 2022 might be a bit of a hangover year but we shall cross that bridge when we come to it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:05:14am

re: #412 ObserverArt

I thought he was impeaching Obama first?

I think that’s after when you can’t impeach Trump because he won according to Jacob’s fellow scholar, Tomi Lahren.

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:06:08am

re: #411 The Vicious Babushka

When in this timeline does Bibi go to jail?

Somewhere between 2018 and 2020 of course.
Also, give a man a break, there’s only so much space in a tweet… :D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:06:31am

re: #352 ObserverArt

Was the weather cooperating? Yesterday you were concerned you might have to float your way there. It looks like the rain passed by last night so hopefully there was no flooding.

There was still ponding on some parts of the road but not too bad otherwise. We ended up with 1.38 in the rain gauge. Big thunderstorm and high winds around 1:30-2 a.m. Ground is pretty saturated though and I’ve got water coursing down the driveway and farm lane.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:06:34am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

To be truthful I kind of feared something like this even if HRC won in 2016. I feared serious Dem in the WH fatigue by 2020. I’m NOT saying it’s a good thing HRC lost and I will never get over my disgust of election night 2016 but I’m hoping that maybe that there will be some silver lining in the end that will make the 20’s a good decade for Democrats and liberals.

Not saying it’s worth it, but if 1994 and 2010 are any guide, this would be a red wave election….

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A Cranky One  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:06:52am

I voted. Only for Democrats. There was a poll worker with a huge scowl that was going over the paperwork of every voter and who seemed suspicious of the young black woman who was entering the voter info. Imagine my surprise when I saw his badge with a big R…and the woman entering data had a D on hers. His resting asshole face made his allegiance clear. ;-)

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:07:07am

Whoa!!!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:07:18am

re: #415 Archangelus

Somewhere between 2018 and 2020 of course.
Also, give a man a break, there’s only so much space in a tweet… :D

I hope in that timeline Bibi gets knelt in the nuts by millions of American Jews disgusted by his favoritism of the far right over the Jewish people :). Seriously, he’s just awful. A crook, a bigot, and an enabler of Trump on the international stage.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:07:37am

re: #412 ObserverArt

I thought he was impeaching Obama first?

Yeah, just as soon as the GOP takes back the House. That boy ain’t right.

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plansbandc  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:08:02am

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:08:21am

re: #419 Archangelus

Whoa!!!

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That gives me hope.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:08:31am

Last night, at dinner with friends, one woman confessed that she voted for a Republican for our Attorney General to serve as a check on the Democrats she believes will be occupying all the remaining statewide offices. And then, too late, she discovered the authority vested in the office and realized this was a bad decision. Hopefully, it will be a clean blue sweep in the Illinois state government.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:08:31am

I got in line at 630 this morning 10 people in front of me. Polls opened at 7. By then the line was out the door. By the time I finished voting at 750 the line was halfway down the block.

We had one guy filibustering at the registration desk yelling that he couldn’t get a Republican ballot. The election clerks reminded him this wasn’t a primary election, yet he wouldn’t listen. He then pulled out his phone and said he was calling Trump. Started yelling about everyone has to vote Republican.

Violation of California’s electioneering laws.

He was escorted outside where he kept yelling…

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:09:55am

re: #419 Archangelus

Whoa!!!

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I wonder how much Taylor Swift had to do with Tennessee’s huge increase?

Good to see Wisconsin up that much too. I hope that costs Walker in the governors race.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:10:19am

re: #404 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I have to admire his ability to stay On-Brand [tm].

Even though he’s a fucking moron.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:10:34am

re: #419 Archangelus

Whoa!!!

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MI 120% △

In MI you can only get an absentee ballot if:
1. You are 60 or older
2. Have a disability
3. Can prove you will be out of state on Election Day

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:10:34am

re: #417 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Not saying it’s worth it, but if 1994 and 2010 are any guide, this would be a red wave election….

Yeah. I mean it wasn’t worth to have what happened happened but I just find myself trying to find a silver lining of the fact that more people are engaged than they were 2 years ago. I myself am more directly involved btw. I hadn’t door knocked for six years prior to 2017. And what’s more, I’m much more comfortable doing than I was as a college student too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:13:01am

This is the stupidest Russian Troll EVER!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:13:40am

re: #429 HappyWarrior

Donald Trump prevailed because a lot of people were fed up with politics and politicians and thought that it did not make much difference how they voted either way or at all…I think a number of them have seen the light in the meantime.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:15:03am

re: #431 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Donald Trump prevailed because a lot of people were fed up with politics and politicians and thought that it did not make much difference how they voted either way or at all…I think a number of them have seen the light in the meantime.

A lot of people are fucking stupid but I think seeing “Yeah maybe a reality TV show guy was a bad idea” are awokened. I hope to the point where it punishes the GOP electorally for the rest of my days and beyond. The GOP needs to pay for pushing Trump on us.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:16:29am

Seems there have been problems at some Georgia polling places, with machines not working, etc.

Figures.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:03am

re: #433 freetoken

Seems there have been problems at some Georgia polling places, with machines not working, etc.

Figures.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:11am

re: #407 Hecuba’s daughter

On November 8, Nate Silver gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning.

Things happen more than 1 out of 4 times at 28.6%

//

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:35am

re: #408 ObserverArt

I’m sick of Pete King too!

Now just imagine living within proximity of that knucklehead.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:44am

re: #433 freetoken

Seems there have been problems at some Georgia polling places, with machines not working, etc.

Figures.

Kemp is no doubt pleased. BTW he’s my pick for the gubernatorial candidate I want to see lose the most so my big three outside my district are:
Senate: Cruz
House: King
Governor: Kemp

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:18:20am

re: #429 HappyWarrior

Yeah. I mean it wasn’t worth to have what happened happened but I just find myself trying to find a silver lining of the fact that more people are engaged than they were 2 years ago. I myself am more directly involved btw. I hadn’t door knocked for six years prior to 2017. And what’s more, I’m much more comfortable doing than I was as a college student too.

Also, this way there’s a reasonable chance of electing a Democratic President and Congress in a census year. I thought the next chance of that was 2040.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:18:40am

Blocked for excessive dumbassery.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:19:10am

re: #436 makeitstop

Now just imagine living within proximity of that knucklehead.

He embarasses me so much as an American of Irish descent sympathetic to Irish republican ideals. He’s also a fucking hypocrite given the way he treats Muslims as being guilty of terrorism whereas if someone treated Northern Irish Catholics that way, he’d be pissed and you know what, the’d be right but Muslims deserve that same respect.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:20:26am

re: #438 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Also, this way there’s a reasonable chance of electing a Democratic President and Congress in a census year. I thought the next chance of that was 2040.

It’s never happened in my lifetime. Granted I’ve only been a participant in one Preisdential census election year and I was 13 that year.
1900: Republican
1920: Republican
1940: Democrat
1960: Democrat
1980: Republican
2000: Republican*
2020: TBD

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:21:55am

re: #435 bd(soros funded)

Things happen more than 1 out of 4 times at 28.6%

//

“A new study out today reveals that over 50% of Americans are in the majority, while less than 50% are in the minority. More on this story as it develops!”

—Kevin Nealon on Weekend Update

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Archangelus  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:22:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:23:06am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:23:16am

I’m hoping that a big win in 2020 will be a huge castration to the rise of these fascist movements in Europe and around the world too. Merkel is stepping down as head from her party soon and I have no idea who will replace her but that will be a huge election for Germany when the next chancellor election happens. Hopefully the Germans don’t do what we did after Obama and give themselves a Trump style headache or what the Brits did with Brexit. I think they won’t.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:24:06am

re: #428 The Vicious Babushka

MI 120% △

In MI you can only get an absentee ballot if:
1. You are 60 or older
2. Have a disability
3. Can prove you will be out of state on Election Day

Out of state students and military?

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:25:19am

I wonder why it is Georgia and Texas that are having so many problems with elections???

Wait, no I don’t.

I hope the good citizens of both states manage to get their votes counted and then remember how this election was handled.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:28:04am

re: #444 The Vicious Babushka

Neglecting election infrastructure is the long term conservative plan.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:28:07am
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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:28:24am
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gwangung  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:28:45am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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And 40%+ of Georgia voters thinks this knucklehead deserves a promotion.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:38am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:50am

Yes trust Obare: #450 jaunte

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If that’s not a reason to vote against Kemp, I don’t know what is but he’s cool with this.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:57am

re: #450 jaunte

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:59am

I have to go and turn in my lease car.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:30:05am

Morning/Afternoon Lizardim from the cloudy, snowy wild north country. Yes, you heard me - there were snowflakes outside my windows in the early morning hours. Despite the adverse weather conditions, though, I proceeded down to my town’s polling place and cast my vote. It was quick and simple - we have a Scantron-style paper ballot and a ballot scanner. Straightforward, not confusing at all, and due to my choice of mid-morning voting time, no line or wait - though I did see constant activity, so it looks like the polls have been busy so far today. I expect far more to show up in the later day after traditional work hours. How go things among the lizardfolk on this cloudy, cold, but inexplicably hopeful Election Day?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:31:09am

re: #452 jaunte

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Just like when they make state id mandatory for voting and close down DMVs in heavily PoC areas.

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Skip Intro  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:32:19am

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:32:40am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:33:23am

re: #458 Skip Intro

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There are people that would pay dearly for the privilege that man got.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:34:38am

re: #459 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wait wait it’s not “how stinky”, you lied to me Jared!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:34:49am

re: #458 Skip Intro

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Brilliant

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A Mom Anon  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:35:57am

re: #273 HappyWarrior

And if they had to admit a democracy was a good thing, then being a democrat would mean something good too. But a republic? Why that’s just dandy, because it’s republican, get it? This boils down to “uggg, democrat bad! Republican goooood,ugggg” for most of the moron brigade.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:37:39am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:39:13am

re: #464 jaunte

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This is disgraceful

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Skip Intro  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:39:51am

re: #462 HappyWarrior

I bet Mitch didn’t have to wait in any stinking line.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:42:19am

re: #466 Skip Intro

I bet Mitch didn’t have to wait in any stinking line.

I bet you’re right. Nor show an id.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:42:47am

re: #404 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

J-Cob was in another one of those hipster coffee shops this morning:

I was in a Hipster Coffee Shop here in LA this morning. At one end of the place, there was a table with an LGBT couple talking about how they were excited to Vote Red today!

could you tell by looking they were “LGBT”?
were they pda’ing or did you just get a vibe?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:43:34am

re: #464 jaunte

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And I have FB friends already complaining that they didn’t have to show an ID to vote. Shit like this? This is why I’m glad it was as easy for me as: Walk in, give them my name, correct a minor spelling mistake because I spoke too quickly, confirm the address she read back to me, get my ballot receipt to take over to the table for my ballot.

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:43:45am
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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:43:55am

re: #407 Hecuba’s daughter

On November 8, Nate Silver gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning.

i coudl say i typo’d and dropped the “8”
i was just hyperbolizing

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:46:00am

re: #425 Joe Bacon 🌹

I got in line at 630 this morning 10 people in front of me. Polls opened at 7. By then the line was out the door. By the time I finished voting at 750 the line was halfway down the block.

We had one guy filibustering at the registration desk yelling that he couldn’t get a Republican ballot. The election clerks reminded him this wasn’t a primary election, yet he wouldn’t listen. He then pulled out his phone and said he was calling Trump. Started yelling about everyone has to vote Republican.

Violation of California’s electioneering laws.

He was escorted outside where he kept yelling…

an informed electorate…

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:47:00am
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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:47:32am

re: #433 freetoken

Seems there have been problems at some Georgia polling places, with machines not working, etc.

Figures.

kemp said there is no need to upgrade these machines

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:48:26am

re: #469 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I don’t know why it is so hard for the wingnuts to accept the reality that vote fraud is really low.

Well, I do know, but it is sad to have to believe that such a large portion of America wants to suppress voting.

Here… all I have to do is walk to the poll, give them my name, they look it up in a book, I sign by my name… and that is all that is required for me vote. No ID needed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:48:44am

re: #474 dangerman

kemp said there is no need to upgrade these machines

Kemp is a crook

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:49:37am

re: #442 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“A new study out today reveals that over 50% of Americans are in the majority, while less than 50% are in the minority. More on this story as it develops!”

—Kevin Nealon on Weekend Update

my favorite is “more than half the people are of below average intelligence”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:50:21am

re: #469 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And I have FB friends already complaining that they didn’t have to show an ID to vote. Shit like this? This is why I’m glad it was as easy for me as: Walk in, give them my name, correct a minor spelling mistake because I spoke too quickly, confirm the address she read back to me, get my ballot receipt to take over to the table for my ballot.

This. This so so so so much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:51:12am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

I bet you’re right. Nor show an id.

I don’t have to show an ID, just have to say my name.
Helps that most of the poll workers in my precinct know me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:08am

apparently the moron-in-chief is spending his executive time today retweeting all of his rally bragging and endorsements and insulting the Democratic candidates.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:45am

re: #475 freetoken

I don’t know why it is so hard for the wingnuts to accept the reality that vote fraud is really low.

Well, I do know, but it is sad to have to believe that such a large portion of America wants to suppress voting.

Here… all I have to do is walk to the poll, give them my name, they look it up in a book, I sign by my name… and that is all that is required for me vote. No ID needed.

they know the truth
for them this is a strategy

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:47am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t have to show an ID, just have to say my name.
Helps that most of the poll workers in my precinct know me.

I have to show mine and say my name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:55:48am

raccoon pied piper…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:00:27am

hannity is really bad at this lying thing

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:00:44am

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

raccoon pied piper…

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Looks like some well-fed raccoons!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:13am

re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hannity is really bad at this lying thing

Yeah whatever Lumpy.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:41am

Of tweets relating to particular states and today’s votes, I’m struck about how delusional, especially delusional, are wingnuts in Florida.

That state has really been a magnate for the most maliciously dull.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:43am

what’s not to believe???

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:52am

It was ‘addressed.’ Uh huh.

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:54am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t have to show an ID, just have to say my name.
Helps that most of the poll workers in my precinct know me.

I would have been in and out of my polling place in under 5 minutes this morning if i hadn’t run into an old friend from high school and chatted for a while.

No ID shown, no wait in line, and there’s a paper ballot that can be counted later if there’s any question about whether it was scanned correctly.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:04:47am

re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hannity is really bad at this lying thing

He doesn’t have to be good since the marks want to be duped. They think they are in on the scam.

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dangerman  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:05:10am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

what’s not to believe???

NEW Fox stmt on Hannity campaigning w Trump: “FOX News does not condone any talent participating in campaign events. We have an extraordinary team of journalists helming our coverage tonight…This was an unfortunate distraction and has been addressed.”

wait….. you didnt know this was going to happen?
not much of a news organization are ya?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:05:27am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

what’s not to believe???

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Lumpy is good. They said talent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:06:45am

re: #464 jaunte

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:07:13am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

what’s not to believe???

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We have told Sean that he is not allowed to go onstage at a wingnut rally for one more year.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:08:19am

re: #490 ipsos

I would have been in and out of my polling place in under 5 minutes this morning if i hadn’t run into an old friend from high school and chatted for a while.

No ID shown, no wait in line, and there’s a paper ballot that can be counted later if there’s any question about whether it was scanned correctly.

Since I had a paper ballot, I went ahead and marked the straight Democratic ticket box, but then after I left I thought to myself, “did I mark the right box? I didn’t double check!” Just a moment of paranoia.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:08:20am

re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hannity is really bad at this lying thing

Just like Sean Insanity lies about not being a slumlord!

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Jay C  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:09:15am

re: #489 makeitstop

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It was ‘addressed.’ Uh huh.

“Dear Sean and Jeanine:

Please try not to do this again.

Thanks.

/s/ The Management”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:09:21am
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:09:35am

538 is sticking with their model, but I keep seeing tweets like this:

… which suggests that voter turnout has been under counted in models.

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Mattand  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:10:31am

re: #464 jaunte

Every year, it seems, I’m told by the person manning the voter book they can’t find me. Despite the fact my last name begins with “A” and I’m within the first few pages; and despite the fact I’ve voted in this district 14 years running.

After a few seconds of me struggling to contain my hair-trigger sarcasm, the person goes “Oh, there you are.”

Irritating, to be sure.

After reading the bullshit that Native Americans are going through in ND, and other people (mostly minorities) are going through in other parts of the country, I realize I’ve got no reason to complain.

At all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:11:22am

re: #500 freetoken

538 is sticking with their model, but I keep seeing tweets like this:

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… which suggests that voter turnout has been under counted in models.

I recall 2008 looking at reports of all the people in line at the polling places and knew that most of them were not out to vote for McCain and Palin

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makeitstop  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:12:38am

re: #498 Jay C

“Dear Sean and Jeanine:

Please try not to do this again.

Thanks.

/s/ The Management”

Right. ‘Do not appear at any further midterm political rallies in this election cycle.’ There. Addressed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:12:57am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:14:35am

re: #504 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The most touching for me was seeing a 102 African American woman. Here we have a woman born before women could vote and who was a parent well into the Civil Rights era.

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jeffreyw  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:17:26am

re: #484 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hannity is really bad at this lying thing

Well, he is not trying to fool smart people. No wasted effort.

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lawhawk  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:19:04am

re: #500 freetoken

538 is sticking with their model, but I keep seeing tweets like this:

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… which suggests that voter turnout has been under counted in models.

Vote. Vote as if your life depends on it. We’ll see if all this talk of higher turnout actually turns out to be substantive or just limited to some areas (as always - YMMV).

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Skip Intro  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:19:53am

re: #489 makeitstop

Whorendo Revolto just happened to be there too, purely by chance.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:21:02am

re: #489 makeitstop

It was ‘addressed.’ Uh huh.

IT WAS ADDRESSED WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT?!?!?!

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 3:37:47pm

re: #379 jeffreyw

We voted in this town hall building in my very rural district this morning - no wait. Fill in the ovals paper ballot. No straight ticket voting so I had to fill in the oval next to every Democrat. No levies or anything else on the sheet - just people running for office and the judge retention list.

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That’s like mine, a couple of hours north of you.


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