Post-Election Night Jam: Ghost-Note, “Thing of Gold”

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Nate Werth - Drums and Percussion
Robert ‘Sput’ Searight - Drums and Percussion
Jason “JT” Thomas - Drums
Shaun Martin - Key Bass
Caleb McCampbell - Melodica, Piano, Toy Piano
Nick Werth - (Galaxe) Xylosynth
Marcelo Woloski - Percussion

Film Credits:
Directed By Andy Laviolette
Director Of Photography 2nd Unit Brad Holt
Camera Operator 2nd Unit Joseph Lafond
Key Grip Patrick Bubert
Video Edited By Andy Laviolette
Interviews In Dallas Filmed By Andy Laviolette
Interviews In New York Filmed By Simon C.F. Yu

Album Credits:
Produced By Robert “Sput” Searight And Nate Werth
Engineered By Eric Hartman And David Lopez
Mixed By Rudyard Lee Cullers And Rick Carson
Mastered By Rick Carson At Make Believe Studios In Omaha, NE
Cover Art By Sage

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1
Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:46:05pm

Got CL’d on last thread.

Connecticut poised to elect a GOP governor.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:47:00pm

Hey GOP, good luck with women and the young voters in two years.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:48:27pm

Josh Hawley in Missouri pledging to protect “The American way of life.”

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:49:08pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Josh Hawley in Missouri pledging to protect “The American way of life.”

White Christian.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:50:16pm

Iowa still a dead heat with 69 in.

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Jason Munro  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:50:35pm

I’m feeling that tonight was a win for democracy. Some balance was restored. It wasn’t the wave I was hoping for, but I will take what I can get. I am really proud (and surprised by) my fellow Kansans rejecting Kobach.

It’s the start of recovery I hope!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:51:01pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

Josh Hawley in Missouri pledging to protect “The American way of life.”

Damn he won too? I don’t like McCaskill but that sucks but Missouri has gone from swing state to pretty reliably red.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:51:39pm

Evers up 0.6% with 82% in.

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MsJ  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:52:18pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Damn he won too? I don’t like McCaskill but that sucks but Missouri has gone from swing state to pretty reliably red.

Racist since the beginning of time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:52:57pm

Skeletor wins in Florida.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:53:00pm

I’ll happily take tonight. Icing on the cake would be to see Nunes go down (not likely) and of course King. The Senate was always going to take a miracle but now we have subpoena power.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:53:15pm

re: #6 Jason Munro

Even with the scary black man to run against, Republicans didn’t suddenly control everything in in 2010. We just have to keep going.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:53:56pm

If the election process were uniform and fair across the United States the Republican Party would be going the way of the Whigs. Alas, they have to cheat to win.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:54:12pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Iowa still a dead heat with 69 in.

Giggity.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:54:29pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

Skeletor wins in Florida.

Damn I really thought we’d win both Florida elections. Senior Senator Rubio. I can think of no one after Trump who takes their job less seriously than Rubio.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:54:35pm

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William Lewis  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:54:36pm

wisconsinvote.org:
Tony Evers 49.33% 1,052,909
Scott Walker 48.72% 1,040,033

79.95% reporting

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:54:39pm

I’d like to close my evening at Little Green Footballs with a hearty fuck you to Paul Ryan.

Take your Ayn Rand books and stick ‘em in your balanced-budget-deficit-hawk-wonk ass and crawl back to Wisconsin and shut the forever up. Enjoy your government paid healthcare and retirement you are now a taker, you never were a maker.

Later!

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:55:18pm

NATHANIEL RAKICH11:49 PM
According to local reporter John DiStaso, Democrats have flipped both the New Hampshire state Senate and state House. As a result, they have broken the Republican trifecta there.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:55:32pm

re: #18 ObserverArt

I’d like to close my evening at Little Green Footballs with a hearty fuck you to Paul Ryan.

Take your Ayn Rand books and stick ‘em in your balanced-budget-deficit-hawk-wonk ass and crawl back to Wisconsin and shut the forever up. Enjoy your government paid healthcare and retirement you are now a taker, you never were a maker.

Later!

Unfortunately I bet it’s not the last we see of him. I’m sure he’s going to be offering his “insight” on the cable news and tools like Todd will be happy to give him airtime.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:55:33pm

I’m back from canvassing in central CA (one of the houses my group was assigned was the candidate’s). Chinese takeout devoured, and I’m falling asleep as I sit here.

At one of the houses we canvassed, the owner came back just as we were leaving, and said she was thinking of not voting because she was so disgusted with what was going on in the country. We suggested that she vote for the party out of power instead, and when we finished our pep talk, she said she was going to leave to vote immediately. For Democrats.

Yay us.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:55:45pm

re: #19 retired cynic

Congrats NH.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:56:52pm

Ron Desantis talking about how he had to overcome “out of state money” and national media who overwhelmingly supported his opponent.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:22pm

Nazi King won.

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Cheechako  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:33pm

Just checking in. All in all a pretty good night. Having control of the House will put a brake on a lot of trump-foolery for 2 years. And open windows for all the current investigations. Hurts to not have the Senate as it will be more difficult to prevent Judicial appointments.

Life will go on. Remember small gains today will lead to bigger successes tomorrow.

Good luck Anymouse. Can’t wait up to the wee hours to learn of your success.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:59pm

re: #19 retired cynic

Which also squashes talk of a constitutional convention.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:57:59pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

Nazi King won.

To clarify, the one from Iowa, although the one from Long Island looks like he’ll win too.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:58:05pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:58:32pm

re: #27 Brian J.

To clarify, the one from Iowa, although the one from Long Island looks like he’ll win too.

Correct. I was referring to the asshole from Iowa.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:59:04pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Desantis talking about how he had to overcome “out of state money” and national media who overwhelmingly supported his opponent.

Oh boo fucking hoo. You had the President rubbing your balls and tons of Republican money backing you. And you barely won.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:59:43pm

I’ve deliberately avoided the news until early this morning Central European Time; I spend yesterday introducing my girlfriend to Monty Python…..she doesn’t quite get the humor.

In any event, it looks like the midterms have shaped up quite nicely for the Democrats; while they didn’t win it all, which wasn’t going to happen anyway, they’ve made some damn solid gains and positioned themselves well for 2020.

And now Trump’s worst nightmare is likely about to come true: Maxine Waters (CA - 43) with virtually unlimited subpoena power.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:59:46pm

I checked three different sources and they still show Iowa as a dead heat.

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ObserverArt  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:59:46pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Unfortunately I bet it’s not the last we see of him. I’m sure he’s going to be offering his “insight” on the cable news and tools like Todd will be happy to give him airtime.

I hate that son of a gun so much. I hope Trump trashes him enough for blowing the house he never recovers and he is too embarrassed to show his head.

The fact he tossed it in this year tells me he might be done for good. I hope.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 8:59:47pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

Nazi King won.

Fuck. Target his ass again in 2020 though. Make that Nazi asshole scared.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:00:22pm

re: #33 ObserverArt

I hate that son of a gun so much. I hope Trump trashes him enough for blowing the house he never recovers and he is too embarrassed to show his head.

The fact he tossed it in this year tells me he might be done for good. I hope.

I hope so too. I never got why he was made out to be a wonk and intelligent. He’s just an asshole who read Ayn Rand .

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:01:21pm
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:01:24pm

re: #24 Ace Rothstein

Nazi King won.

Says who? That must be a projection based on about half the precincts in.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:01:58pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Fuck. Target his ass again in 2020 though. Make that Nazi asshole scared.

At the least the other Midwestern Nazi, Kris Kobach, lost.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:02:10pm

re: #37 freetoken

Says who? That must be a projection based on about half the precincts in.

CNN has about 86% of the vote in and shows a 53-44 margin.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:02:17pm
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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:02:59pm

re: #39 Brian J.

CNN has about 86% of the vote in and shows a 53-44 margin.

Ok. The Iowa SoS website must be slow then.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:03:35pm

re: #39 Brian J.

CNN has about 86% of the vote in and shows a 53-44 margin.

Really Steve King pulled ahead that much or are we talking about IRA King?

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:03:48pm

re: #41 freetoken

Ok. The Iowa SoS website must be slow then.

Sites are moving at very different speeds for different races tonight. Except for Nevada’s, which aren’t moving at all.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:05:03pm

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Because Sarah you stupid imbecile, she is right now the highest Dem leader in the House. Maybe she won’t be Speaker but right now, she is the highest ranking Dem. But I get it your have no class just like your murderer pardoning, pedophile apologizing, dog abusing son raising, Daddy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:05:25pm

SOAB

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:05:33pm

re: #43 Brian J.

Sites are moving at very different speeds for different races tonight. Except for Nevada’s, which aren’t moving at all.

I’m waiting to go to bed and Nevada hasn’t reported anything. Claim they are waiting until all voters in line have cast votes before reporting anything. Can’t find anything on news about whether people are still in line.

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:05:42pm

re: #43 Brian J.

Sites are moving at very different speeds for different races tonight. Except for Nevada’s, which aren’t moving at all.

Area 51 swallowed them all…

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:06:43pm

This piece of work is the new governor of Florida.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:07:38pm

I may have spoken too soon about SC:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:08:32pm

re: #48 DodgerFan1988

This piece of work is the new governor of Florida.

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Great job Floriduh.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:09:40pm

re: #47 freetoken

Area 51 swallowed them all…

That’s actually a weird place. Camped out just outside of the boundaries near Rachel there with friends while the husbands were spending the night backpacking in the hills, looking for a cave. They have tons of security roaming along the fence line which is really odd in the middle of nowhere. That’s also the place where there were coyote (I’m assuming) hunters decided to shine their lights on our camp, with obvious vehicles and pop-up campers, and started shooting at us. We got the babies, the dogs, and us loaded up super quick and got the hell out of there. Ended up staying at the Little A-Le-Inn which is a trailer that has locks on the bedrooms that are classified as a “motel room.” Interesting times.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:09:56pm

You lost by three points in fucking red-state Texas, Beto. You gave it a great run. You earned my vote, and I’m proud of you.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:10:55pm

re: #49 BeachDem

I may have spoken too soon about SC:

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Indeed. Cunningham, the Democrat, has a 3,600-vote lead according to CNN. Most of what’s left is in suburban Beaufort County, which to date has split 50/50 (Cunningham trails by 10 votes out of 38,000 cast).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:11:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:12:05pm

Bomb threat called into the Village of Mitchell, Nebraska originated from overseas.

starherald.com

A call that resulted in several law enforcement agencies responding to Mitchell Friday has been traced and is believed to have originated overseas.

On Friday, the Mitchell Police Department and multiple agencies responded to a residence in downtown Mitchell after the communications center received a call from a man, named George, claiming to have killed his girlfriend and having a pipe bomb that he threatened to detonate. In subsequent calls, the man claimed he had children in the home and threatened to harm them unless police came into the residence. Officers spoke to the man during the call.

(more)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:12:14pm

People refuse to freakin’ learn

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:12:34pm

CNN also shows Handel (GOoPer) ahead of Lucy McBath in Georgia 6 by a mere 169 votes. The remaining precincts are in Cobb County, but maybe they’re the right precincts.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:12:35pm

“Have fun at the pub!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:12:44pm

re: #52 Ace Rothstein

You lost by three points in fucking red-state Texas, Beto. You gave it a great run. You earned my vote, and I’m proud of you.

is Cornyn up in 2020 or 22? Would love to see Beto run again. Loved his energy. He just seemed like he was having fun and he was so genuine. I don’t care what they say. He was true to himself and I am glad he didn’t pander on the athletes, ACA, etc. I doubt it would have been enough. Texas is no longer the bright red state of Dubya. It’s one that I think will go back ot the Dems within the next three presidential elections.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:13:13pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That’s good news for Gov elect Polis.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:13:31pm
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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:14:56pm

Kim Reynolds of the GOoPers remains governor of Iowa. Dem Lauren Underwood wins Illinois 14.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:15:06pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

2020.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:15:15pm

Media tomorrow: “This wasn’t really a blue wave because they didn’t win (insert “important” race) and winning the House doesn’t matter because the GOP kept the Senate.”

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sagehen  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:15:54pm

re: #31 Dr Lizardo

I’ve deliberately avoided the news until early this morning Central European Time; I spend yesterday introducing my girlfriend to Monty Python…..she doesn’t quite get the humor.

She doesn’t love Holy Grail or Life of Brian? Are you sure she speaks English?

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:16:00pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

Media tomorrow already: “This wasn’t really a blue wave because they didn’t win (insert “important” race) and winning the House doesn’t matter because the GOP kept the Senate.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:16:02pm

re: #61 jaunte

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He really ran one of the best campaigns I’ve seen. We haven’t seen the last of him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:16:14pm

re: #63 Ace Rothstein

2020.

Run Beto Run!

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:16:37pm

A play in five acts. (five tweets, behind the clicker)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:33pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

A play in five acts. (five tweets, behind the clicker)

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LOL Bill is so pathetic. I can’t wait to see his face when his hero Trump goes down in flames.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:41pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

A play in five acts. (five tweets, behind the clicker)

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“We didn’t want to play in your crummy tree house anyway!”

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:17:44pm

GEOFFREY SKELLEY12:15 AM
In Arizona, 23 percent of precincts have reported and hundreds of thousands of vote still remain outstanding. Republican Rep. Martha McSally holds a thin 49.0 to 48.7 percent lead over Democratic Rep. Kyrsten Sinema. Few precincts have reported in Maricopa County (Phoenix), which is THE pivotal county. It usually carries about 60 percent of the state’s vote.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:18:17pm

Evers up by 600 votes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:18:42pm

re: #46 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’m waiting to go to bed and Nevada hasn’t reported anything. Claim they are waiting until all voters in line have cast votes before reporting anything. Can’t find anything on news about whether people are still in line.

Your Sec’y of State Website was written to be as complicated as possible to navigate.

The site called me out as a “bot” and wouldn’t let me view the site at all until jumping through a number of CAPTCHA hoops.

After getting past that, I couldn’t figure out how to find election results at all on the Website. It is far too complicated.

It might be the press is reporting that the state hasn’t reported anything because they can’t figure it out either. /s

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:21:09pm
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Kilroy was here  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:21:10pm

Looking better for Cunningham in SC.. 51 to 49 with 89% in.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:21:26pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

Your Sec’y of State Website was written to be as complicated as possible to navigate.

The site called me out as a “bot” and wouldn’t let me view the site at all until jumping through a number of CAPTCHA hoops.

After getting past that, I couldn’t figure out how to find election results at all on the Website. It is far too complicated.

It might be the press is reporting that the state hasn’t reported anything because they can’t figure it out either. /s

I’ve got local news live right now, and there are still people voting right now as well as in Washoe County. According to the guy they are interviewing, this turnout is unprecedented for a mid-term election. Could be a while.

Here is where I’m getting info from the state. No captcha or anything. Link

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:23:22pm

Okay looking at our results here in VA-10. I’m shocked. I thought Jen would win and she did but she almost beat Comstock as much as Kaine beat Stewart which is pretty impressive since Comstock was an incumbent without scandals. Good riddance to Comstock though. One of my old teachers deals with politicians a lot since he’s a poli sci teacher. It was like that when I was one of his students too. He’s a staunchly liberal guy but he does have Republicans he has nice things to say about on a personal level like McCain, Frank Wolf (our longtime former Congressman), and some others but he could not stand Comstock. He said when he got her to speak to students. She went on some bizarre spiels and didn’t engage the kids at all. I will say this about Frank Wolf, I wasn’t a big fan but he was good to his constituents. YOu know how AM’s Congressman says he only Represents Republicans. Wolf wasn’t like that. Way too conservative for me but he did fight for the federal workers of which my mom was one and I admired his committment on human rights. Comstock was someone who got into national politics through Starr’s shit.

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plansbandc  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:23:58pm

CL’d from previous thread… Think jaunte saw it, but…

There’s a terrifying podcast called “Dr. Death” about a Texas surgeon who cripples and kills his patients. Some debate as to whether he is purely incompetent or purposely killing and maiming his patients, but he’s eventually locked up for life. Appealing though, of course.

Anyway, due to Texas’s horrible “torte reform” it was hard for the surviving patients to find a lawyer to represent them in their cases against the surgeon. (No money)

These are people who were butchered by this doctor, and got very little compensation. The podcast host opened a can of worms by bringing up torte reform and the damage it causes. Basically, the point of it is to make malpractice insurance cheap for doctors while screwing everyone else. Naturally, she got and continues to get a ton of hate on social media for daring to state what Texas “torte reform” is all about.

The descriptions of what the doctor did to those people is some of the most horrifying shit I’ve heard. Scarier than any horror movie, because it’s true.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:24:26pm

re: #77 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve got local news live right now, and there are still people voting right now as well as in Washoe County. According to the guy they are interviewing, this turnout is unprecedented for a mid-term election. Could be a while.

Here is where I’m getting info from the state. No captcha or anything. Link

I’ll bet you can’t WAIT to have Ryan Bundy as Governor. /s

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:25:35pm
NATHANIEL RAKICH12:22 AM
With 93 percent reporting in Georgia, the gubernatorial race looks like it’s over, but it’s not certain. Kemp leads Abrams 53 percent to 46 percent, but there are still 111 precincts left to count in Fulton County, which could push Kemp under 50 percent and force a runoff.

Oh, PLEEEEEEEEZE!!!!!

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:26:22pm

re: #79 plansbandc


True Crime Podcast ‘Dr. Death’ Examines the Tale of a Maniacal Dallas Surgeon

“…The latter episodes, which focus on Duntsch’s downfall, are when the podcast truly shines. Beil is able to showcase her expertise on the Texas health care system while analyzing what happened after the conviction and its splashy headlines. She explains how media coverage developed, the impact of Duntsch’s conviction beyond his case, and the lasting effects of tort reform in Texas—which makes insurance premiums more affordable for doctors and leaves many victims of medical malpractice helpless (especially those who can’t sue for economic loss, like children, the retired, and the unemployed).texasmonthly.com

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:27:08pm
NATE SILVER12:20 AM
Yeah, Geoff, I think you’d ever so slightly prefer to be Sinema right now. Although Maricopa County is so freakin’ big that you’d need to know more about the precincts where the vote is outstanding.

Well, hey….

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vgranucci  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:27:47pm

re: #6 Jason Munro

I’m feeling that tonight was a win for democracy. Some balance was restored. It wasn’t the wave I was hoping for, but I will take what I can get. I am really proud (and surprised by) my fellow Kansans rejecting Kobach.

It’s the start of recovery I hope!

Agreed. Not as good as I hoped, not as bad as I feared.

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jaunte  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:28:49pm
“…tort reform in Texas—which makes insurance premiums more affordable for doctors and leaves many victims of medical malpractice helpless (especially those who can’t sue for economic loss, like children, the retired, and the unemployed).”

This is what Greg Abbott represents.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:02pm

There were some disappointments tonight. Florida comes to mind but I feel good about momentum going into 2020. And I definitely intend to attend an election watch party because I want to be among the people when Trump loses.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:16pm

Evers up by 300 votes.

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harlequinade  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:29:20pm

Outsider Question: results from States we’ve seen issues from - “calibration” errors, massive disenfranchisement etc. Will they get contested? Will there be law suits?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:30:34pm

re: #85 jaunte

This is what Greg Abbott represents.

Tort reform is one of those things that almost sound decent but then you actually study when you need to award large amounts, you see why it’s bs. And don’t get me started on people who think the McDonalds coffee case was frivolous, it was anything but and the plaintiff was perfectly reasonable.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:30:34pm

Nelson just conceded FL

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:31:13pm

re: #90 retired cynic

Nelson just conceded FL

Bummer. He had a good ride there. Sucks that both Scott and DeSantis won. Both are awful on so many levels.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:33:14pm

re: #79 plansbandc

CL’d from previous thread… Think jaunte saw it, but…

here’s a terrifying podcast called “Dr. Death” about a Texas surgeon who cripples and kills his patients. Some debate as to whether he is purely incompetent or purposely killing and maiming his patients, but he’s eventually locked up for life. Appealing though, of course.

Anyway, due to Texas’s horrible “torte reform” it was hard for the surviving patients to find a lawyer to represent them in their cases against the surgeon. (No money)

These are people who were butchered by this doctor, and got very little compensation. The podcast host opened a can of worms by bringing up torte reform and the damage it causes. Basically, the point of it is to make malpractice insurance cheap for doctors while screwing everyone else. Naturally, she got and continues to get a ton of hate on social media for daring to state what Texas “torte reform” is all about.

The descriptions of what the doctor did to those people is some of the most horrifying shit I’ve heard. Scarier than any horror movie, because it’s true.

Yeah, I watched that whole tort reform play out in Nevada. The doctors were all claiming that it would cut their very high malpractice insurance rates so that the cost of health care would go down. LOL. Guess what happened? Nobody won except for the insurance companies who don’t have to pay out for egregious injuries caused by doctors. There is one I’m particularly shocked by who still has their license and are still practicing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:33:42pm

Corey Stewart lol did wores than E.W. Jackson. I hope he doubles down and tries to run against Warner in 2020 since you know he’s butthurt that Warner’s one of the guys investigating the election shanngians. But he has more of a special hatred for Kaine since Kaine is everything he’s not: kind, intelligent, insightful, compassionate, etc.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:34:01pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:34:24pm

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

I’ll bet you can’t WAIT to have Ryan Bundy as Governor. /s

LOL. Yeah, he’s got no chance. LOL. The news just said that Washoe County STILL has people in line. I’m going to bed.

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plansbandc  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:34:51pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Yeah. That was a terrible thing. That poor woman.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:34:51pm

I think most people don’t realize and I certainly didn’t until paralegal class was fault in PI cases. You have to in many states demonstrate that the party was 100% responsilbe for what happened.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:35:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:35:32pm

re: #95 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

LOL. Yeah, he’s got no chance. LOL. The news just said that Washoe County STILL has people in line. I’m going to bed.

Washoe eh? That’s Tahoe. I was there visiting my brother a few years back. Beautiful.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:35:54pm

sour grapes!!!

DEREK WILLIS12:30 AM
Democrats might grit their teeth over Kansas’s 2nd District, where Republican Steve Watkins has a small lead over Democrat Paul Davis in an open seat. Libertarian Kelly Standley’s total more than covers the difference at this point. Standley is a former Democratic Party county chairman who initially filed to run in that party’s primary and then dropped out when Davis got the backing of party leaders.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:37:17pm

re: #98 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Seems like a pretty cool guy. Knock em out Colin. This is definitely part of Beto’s legacy too. He definitely helped Dems like Allred compete.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:37:57pm

NBC reports Chris Collins limping over the line in New York 27 by less than 3,000 votes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:38:05pm

re: #100 retired cynic

sour grapes!!!

Gah.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:38:18pm

re: #102 Brian J.

NBC reports Chris Collins limping over the line in New York 27 by less than 3,000 votes.

Bummer.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:38:24pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Washoe eh? That’s Tahoe. I was there visiting my brother a few years back. Beautiful.

It is beautiful, much different than where I live in the south. It’s the only other large county in terms of population. I’m surprised Washoe still has people in line, though, because Clark County has many more people.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:40:09pm

re: #105 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

It is beautiful, much different than where I live in the south. It’s the only other large county in terms of population. I’m surprised Washoe still has people in line, though, because Clark County has much more people.

Not sure either and yeah people think of your state as desert but the Tahoe area is different than that. I wish I got to visit more but I’m glad to have my brother home too.

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harlequinade  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:41:42pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

I want to say, “what about an audit - especially in Texas?”

It just seems that there was a lot of things that seemed to go wrong on the day, in the right places.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:43:32pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Bummer.

And staying on the subject of unpunished crooks, NBC just projected Duncan Hunter the winner in California 50. Seems awfully early given the state of the count in California, but oh well.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:43:33pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Not sure either and yeah people think of your state as desert but the Tahoe area is different than that. I wish I got to visit more but I’m glad to have my brother home too.

I really like the area just to the north in Lincoln County. It’s huge and has something like 3,000 people in it. White Pine County is gorgeous. If you get a chance, check out Great Basin National Park. It’s a gem with very few people going there because it is in the middle of nowhere.

And, they are calling for Dennis Hof, the dead brothel owner, to win so that’s going to be a mess.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:43:50pm

Dammit, Duncan Hunter called the winner in the CA-50. Guessing we’ll have a special election there and the NY-29.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:00pm

Now we wait for the Trump shake up. Easy predictions now but I think we see Sessions and Rosenstein removed from the island and definitely another cabinet member or two.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:02pm

I just saw on ABC that Montanans believe 44-43% that Republicans would be better at protecting pre-existing condition medical coverage than Democrats.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:03pm

re: #110 KGxvi

Dammit, Duncan Hunter called the winner in the CA-50. Guessing we’ll have a special election there and the NY-29.

WTF!?!?

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:10pm

I would never vote for a candidate for office that was under indictment. That’s just me, a lowly ski bum.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:15pm

Sucks Hunter won but that doesn’t shock me.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:17pm

re: #112 Belafon

I just saw on ABC that Montanans believe 44-43% that Republicans would be better at protecting pre-existing condition medical coverage than Democrats.

Dumbasses.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:45:44pm

I think what’s telling is not just the fact that the DNC won the House, it’s that they fought the GOP to very tight victories this year. And the exit polls showing that healthcare is the top issue on people’s minds as they say the country is moving in the wrong direction and voted against Donny? Yeah, I don’t see how the press are going to credibly argue that tonight was anything but a gut punch for the GOP.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:46:16pm

re: #112 Belafon

I just saw on ABC that Montanans believe 44-43% that Republicans would be better at protecting pre-existing condition medical coverage than Democrats.

The same people who are fine with their Congressman bodyslamming a reporter. Dumbasses have no idea who fought tooth and nail to get he pre-existing conditions into medical care in teh first place.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:46:38pm

re: #113 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

WTF!?!?

Even after the indictments, Hunter was expected to win, it’s a R+11 district.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:46:59pm

re: #108 Brian J.

And staying on the subject of unpunished crooks, NBC just projected Duncan Hunter the winner in California 50. Seems awfully early given the state of the count in California, but oh well.

At least we can lay to rest the idea that they’re the law-and-order party.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:47:09pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:47:34pm

re: #120 Belafon

At least we can lay to rest the idea that they’re the law-and-order party.

You’d think so.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:48:23pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

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As I observed the other day, the disparity between what a small and large state is much larger now than it was then.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:49:26pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

You couldn’t vote for senators back then. But, yeah, the states representing the will of the people is going to keep taking a beating.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:50:28pm

re: #121 teleskiguy

there’s really no way to have a republican system of government with big states and small states without something like the Senate and House arrangement. we did make some later mistakes like having two Dakotas instead of one.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:50:30pm

Okay. Really going to bed this time. I have to get my kids up at 5:30 to get ready for school. Ugh.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:50:30pm

Mr. Ivory Tower Centrist has Opinions.

🚨🚨🚨 WARNING: EXTREMELY HOT TAKE 🚨🚨🚨

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:50:52pm

Nate Cohn

@Nate_Cohn
Our current turnout estimate is 114 million votes cast in the House, breaking even our high expectations (we started at 102 iirc) and shattering the turnout of 83 million in 2014

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:51:42pm

In other elections around the world, Poland’s ruling hard-right party failed to win any elections in major cities in Poland.

starherald.com

The leader of Poland’s populist ruling party on Tuesday hailed its showing in local elections as an “all-out victory” despite the party’s failure to win mayoral races in any of Poland’s large cities.

In an apparent face-saving measure, Jaroslaw Kaczynski said “our victory is not subject to the slightest doubt” and called the results a good sign for his Law and Justice party in next year’s parliamentary elections.

Party officials presented charts to reporters to show Law and Justice victories in country and local councils.

He was speaking following the vote that ended Sunday in some cities and smaller municipalities. The conservative ruling party won the most seats in regional assemblies but performed poorly in mayoral races, winning no big cities and only a handful of smaller ones.

(more)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:52:52pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

Mr. Ivory Tower Centrist has Opinions.

🚨🚨🚨 WARNING: EXTREMELY HOT TAKE 🚨🚨🚨

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Cool story Dave. Can I have some mozzarella cheese with your whine? This election wasn’t about De Trumping the GOP. It was about putting a check on him. And we did that.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:32pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

Tort reform is one of those things that almost sound decent but then you actually study when you need to award large amounts, you see why it’s bs. And don’t get me started on people who think the McDonalds coffee case was frivolous, it was anything but and the plaintiff was perfectly reasonable.

Good doc:

Hot Coffee

How the infamous McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit and similar cases were exploited as part of a right wing crusade to weaken civil justice.

imdb.com

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:45pm

The only thing that’s really going to change the minds of a lot of fellow white people is death and a major downturn in the economy. Because we won’t actually win anything by attempting to come to terms on minority rights - which includes LGBT - or abortion.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:54pm

Good: The ACA won’t be repealed.

Bad: Trump and the Senate will continue to fuck it up.

Good: My Government Pension won’t be cut.

Bad: Trump will still block any pay raises.

Good: Mueller may drop major indictments tomorrow

Bad: Before Trump fires Keebler Elf, Rosenstein and Mueller.

Good: House can issue subpoenas

Bad: Supreme Court will quash them 5-4

I’m going to bed…

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:54:57pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

Mr. Ivory Tower Centrist has Opinions.

🚨🚨🚨 WARNING: EXTREMELY HOT TAKE 🚨🚨🚨

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I’m not looking to “deTrumpify” the GOP, I’m looking to resign it to the dustbin of history. GOP delenda est.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:55:18pm

Repeal of the recent California gas tax is losing by 10%, as is a proposition that would have given older home owners an even bigger tax break under Prop 13.

A proposition that would have allowed cities to institute new rent control laws is also losing by 30 points.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:55:33pm

re: #131 BeachDem

Good doc:

Hot Coffee

How the infamous McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit and similar cases were exploited as part of a right wing crusade to weaken civil justice.

imdb.com

Yes we saw clips of that in class.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:56:17pm

re: #135 KGxvi

Repeal of the recent California gas tax is losing by 10%, as is a proposition that would have given older home owners an even bigger tax break under Prop 13.

A proposition that would have allowed cities to institute new rent control laws is also losing by 30 points.

Prop 10 goes down…unlike rents which will continue to go thru the roof…

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plansbandc  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:57:02pm

Damn it. I hate when I get all ranty and spell shit wrong. I know it’s not a damn cake. :D

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:58:22pm

re: #137 Joe Bacon 🌹

Prop 10 goes down…unlike rents which will continue to go thru the roof…

I voted against it. Generally not a fan of rent control, and what we need more than anything is more housing - not just rentals but condos and single family homes.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 9:59:34pm
NATHANIEL RAKICH12:52 AM
ABC News is projecting that GOP Rep. Rob Woodall has won the Georgia 7th, where he leads Democrat Carolyn Bourdeaux 51 percent to 49 percent. Apparently, there was a data error earlier that gave Bourdeaux the lead.

Data error or Brian Kemp?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:00:01pm

Counting still going on, as prairie schooners take a while to get from out here in the West to Lincoln with the results. /s

That said, it looks like all the statewide and federal candidates will remain in R hands, albeit with smaller margins than in the past. About 3/4 of the precincts have now reported.

As far as local races, the SOS Website this time around is borked. The county Website doesn’t report elections (though I can apply for a tobacco sales license there).

My county has reported all it’s precincts to the SOS. I have no idea who won or lost in my county elections.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:00:28pm

And the right wing collectively goes

Giphy

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:00:40pm

Here’s what I really like about the way we took the House back tonight: we did it without electing a bunch of hotheads. The Spanbergers and Brindisis who won tonight aren’t going to do what Iron Stache would have - they’re not going to get sworn in and immediately declare war on Democratic leadership.

For all the earnest punditry, we’ll have Speaker Pelosi with little or no dissension. And she’ll get shit done, as best shit can get done when you have one half of one third of government.

And then if she’s smart, she’ll find a way to start handing things off to younger Dems ahead of the inevitable 2020 campaign attacks. But for now it feels like we’re going in with a very unified caucus, and that pleases me.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:15pm

Looking better and better for Joe. Yay!! (Oh—this is SC-1, Sanford’s old seat)

Election results
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
51.6% Joe Cunningham Dem 131,727
48.4% Katie Arrington GOP 123,445
92.3% of precincts reporting (325/352)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:01:33pm

re: #142 teleskiguy

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While wearing Trump that bitch shirts.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:02:10pm

re: #144 BeachDem

Looking better and better for Joe. Yay!! (Oh—this is SC-1, Sanford’s old seat)

Election results
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
51.6% Joe Cunningham Dem 131,727
48.4% Katie Arrington GOP 123,445
92.3% of precincts reporting (325/352)

Yay!

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:02:18pm

Interesting… 23% reporting, Feinstein leading 53.7-46.3. That’s a bit closer than I thought it would be.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:02:50pm

Omaha and Lincoln are still at 0% reporting.

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gwangung  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:02:57pm

re: #147 KGxvi

Interesting… 23% reporting, Feinstein leading 53.7-46.3. That’s a bit closer than I thought it would be.

Dual Dems, isn’t it?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:05:04pm

re: #149 gwangung

Dual Dems, isn’t it?

I guess the Republican voters are voting for the other Dem since I imagine DiFi is public enemy number one for the handling of Brat Kavanaugh.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:05:23pm

re: #149 gwangung

Dual Dems, isn’t it?

Yes. Kevin De Leon, former State Senate Pro Tem, a very progressive challenger. Just figured it would be a blow out. Two years ago, Harris won with over 60% against another Democrat (though Harris was much more the progressive choice)

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:05:46pm

I will leave you with the Jared Jewelry commercial that features a guy asking his boyfriend to marry him, and a woman getting down on her knee to ask her boyfriend to marry her:

ispot.tv

And if you’re doubting that it’s for the other guy in the first part, it’s a flat band, not the type generally given to women.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:06:11pm

re: #149 gwangung

Dual Dems, isn’t it?

That’s right.

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Belafon  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:06:57pm

re: #148 Anymouse 🌹

Omaha and Lincoln are still at 0% reporting.

Are you sure they’re still there?

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:07:13pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

I guess the Republican voters are voting for the other Dem since I imagine DiFi is public enemy number one for the handling of Brat Kavanaugh.

Not likely. About 600k more votes in the governor’s race than in the Senate race - lot of Republicans not voting in the Senate race more likely.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:07:18pm

Milwaukee’s votes are supposed to come in soon, and Sinema still has a chance in AZ.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:08:37pm

re: #155 KGxvi

Not likely. About 600k more votes in the governor’s race than in the Senate race - lot of Republicans not voting in the Senate race more likely.

Ah then I dunno.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:08:37pm

re: #131 BeachDem

Good doc:

Hot Coffee

How the infamous McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit and similar cases were exploited as part of a right wing crusade to weaken civil justice.

imdb.com

I’ve used that example in lessons regarding laws and legal systems; when you dig just a wee bit deeper into the matter, it’s not a frivolous lawsuit at all. Once that’s explained, then my students have invariably seen that the decision was the correct one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:11:36pm

re: #154 Belafon

Are you sure they’re still there?

North Platte and Scottsbluff are at 0% as well.

Medicaid Expansion is still holding on to a 7% lead (my county went against it hard).

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:12:02pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Ah then I dunno.

Feinstein has been in office since I was a freshman in high school, and the electorate is very different now than what it used to be. Personally I would have probably preferred if she retired. Though I did end up voting for her mostly because I got an unsolicited email from Steyer endorsing De Leon.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:12:30pm

And Harley is holding onto a slim lead over repulsive Dana in CA 48 for now.

Election results
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.1% Harley Rouda Dem 54,780
49.9% Dana Rohrabacher* GOP 54,530
30.9% of precincts reporting (122/395)

(I do love that I knew Harley when he was in high school—he was friends with one of my friend’s sons, and I used to “chaperone” their drinking parties—good times!)

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:12:49pm
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Kragar  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:13:38pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:13:43pm
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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:13:46pm

I don’t feel like I can go to bed until the returns are in from Broadwater.

Any news, Anymouse?

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Amory Blaine  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:14:56pm

Evers up by 300 votes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:15:50pm

Lre: #162 Kragar

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I wasn’t aware it ever was alive to her. Not like Ann ever actually goes to Kansas.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:17:11pm

Nunes called winner. boooooo

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:18:15pm

re: #166 Amory Blaine

Been that way for a l.o.o.o.o.o.ng time. Think it’s stuck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:18:25pm

re: #168 retired cynic

Nunes called winner. boooooo

Aw fuck. But at least he’s longer in charge of Intel.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:19:00pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Aw fuck. But at least he’s longer in charge of Intel.

Who is gonna be in charge of intel come January?

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:19:21pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Aw fuck. But at least he’s longer in charge of Intel.

Maybe they can investigate HIM.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:19:22pm

re: #171 Dr Lizardo

Who is gonna be in charge of intel come January?

Adam Schiff, from California.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:20:11pm
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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:20:45pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Aw fuck. But at least he’s longer in charge of Intel.

Nunes was a long shot.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:22:04pm

re: #173 Brian J.

Adam Schiff, from California.

Good.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:22:56pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dead candidates always seem to have an advantage, there’s a real sentiment that the only good politician is a dead politician. If I recall, Missouri sent a dead man to the US Senate in 2000.

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:23:29pm

re: #177 KGxvi

Dead candidates always seem to have an advantage, there’s a real sentiment that the only good politician is a dead politician. If I recall, Missouri sent a dead man to the US Senate in 2000.

The alternative was John Ashcroft. Missourians made the right choice.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:23:49pm

Arizona, where I think they vote by making a mark on a rock with a piece of coal

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:25:26pm

California is going to elect three women to statewide office: Lt Governor, treasurer, and controller. Also looks like former Republican, now independent, Steve Poizner is going to be insurance commissioner again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:29:11pm

With 31% reporting, Comrade Rohrabacher is down 250 votes in CA 48

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:29:53pm

Just woke up here in Europe. Bummed about Beto but generally pleased about election results.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:31:05pm

Gerrymanders still ruling in some places.

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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:32:56pm

re: #183 retired cynic

Gerrymanders still ruling in some places.

true, but three more states voting for nonpartisian redistricting committees. Gerrymanders may be on the endangered species list soon.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:33:21pm

re: #184 KGxvi

true, but three more states voting for nonpartisian redistricting committees. Gerrymanders may be on the endangered species list soon.

Hope hope hope!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:34:12pm

Called the county clerk’s office to find out what’s up about the election results (they reported them to the state but no results are posted anywhere).

No dice - busy signal - can’t get through. I’m half tempted to get in the car and go over to the county seat and find out what’s going on (and that’s why I didn’t vote for the R clerk even though there was no D opponent).

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:34:46pm

MAGIC COMING OUT OF MY EARS!

Nice nine-dotted ellipsis.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:36:01pm

Arguments I will not entertain after tonight:

- “We should have won (insert “important” race) and so tonight was a wash.” There were a lot of races we wanted to win, even some we figured we had in the bag. But many of those races were long odds and we made up a lot of ground. We were not going to win 100% of the races tonight, so we were going to win races really wanted to win. Now wipe your nose and get ready to rejoin the fight.

- “We didn’t win the Senate, so the GOP can do (insert heinous acts).” Again, winning the Senate was something we wanted and was long odds because of the disparity between the number of seats we had to defend versus the ones that we could win. There’s a lot of shit we can do with the House alone that is better than having neither. Buck up, there will be a next time after tonight.

- “Trump can run against the Dem House in 2020 and probably win.” Stop, just stop. I ain’t got time for defeatism, not after tonight. There are subpoenas to be served, hearings to be conducted, bills to be written, and a whole lot of ballbreaking to happen. We showed tonight that we have the numbers to move fucking mountains, now let’s do it!

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Brian J.  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:36:55pm

Good news incoming from Nevada, apparently:

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:37:09pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

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MAGIC COMING OUT OF MY EARS!

Nice nine-dotted ellipsis.

Magic coming out of the ears and verbal diarrhea coming out of his mouth.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:37:16pm

The four measures that conservatives backed here in Oregon all went down in flames and the one liberal backed measure passed. DeFazio returns to Washington, our legislature stays Democratic controlled and Kate Brown stays on as governor. All in all a good night here on the central left coast.

I’m already planning on getting after DeFazio to push his colleagues in the House to go after Trump. After a shitload of money and time wasted on fake investigations in the past Republican-controlled House, it’s damned well time for some real investigations. I want to see broken fingers every time the Republicans or White House reaches out to Democrats. Democrats need to use the House to try and reign in the Orange Terror.

Let’s start with his tax returns and go from there.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:40:20pm

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:40:45pm
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KGxvi  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:41:35pm

re: #188 Targetpractice

Trump can’t run against the House in 2020, he’ll be too busy running against a nominee for president. Hopefully, whomever that is, can continue to build on the work of Abrams, O’Rourke, Gillam, and the rest of the Democratic nominees that did so much this year.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:41:50pm

Interesting (odd—are they trying to manufacture votes) that the part of Beaufort County that is in Jim Clyburn’s district has 100% reported, but the part in Joe Cunningham’s race is only at 68.6%—the only county not totally in, and it’s been at that level for more than an hour. Shenanigans??

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:41:59pm

I”m thinking there will be a recount

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:42:24pm

re: #193 Kragar

The QAnon crowd has been really shaken up by Dems taking the House. Lots of disillusionment on their forums, accusations that Q is, in fact, totally made up.

Well, golly gee, who the hell woulda fuckin’ thought that, huh?

One positive effect is maybe some of those QAnon nutburgers will finally pull their heads out of their asses.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:43:12pm

AP still hasn’t called GA gov race! Haaaaanng on

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:43:26pm

re: #191 Odie Hugh Manatee

Unfortunately the Democrats will only have 7 or so seats above a majority. So if just a few Dems get cold feet, it will be difficult to be aggressive enough.

It needs to be done - Trump and his gang need to be held accountable.

Yet it is pretty clear from tonight that the gray haired retirees in Florida, dependent upon Social Security and Medicare but who still are conned into voting against “socialism”, is the millstone around the American polity.

That and the over-40 white males who are becoming more and more the white nationalist demographic.

It’s a long slog.

It’s also an insight for us in the 21st century of how our ancestors in the 19th had to feel in their fight against the institutional powers that kept issues like slavery from being resolved quickly.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:44:05pm

re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Greens.

Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:44:53pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

MAGIC COMING OUT OF MY EARS!

Nice nine-dotted ellipsis.

Well, that tweet’s not true… . surprise.

Image: File:Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.PNG

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:46:26pm

re: #198 retired cynic

AP still hasn’t called GA gov race! Haaaaanng on

Because the two counties still with precincts to report are strong Democratic areas.

But Abrams has to make up almost 115k votes, which I think is too much, unless there are mail ballots in significant numbers yet to be counted, which I doubt for Georgia.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:47:04pm

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Well, golly gee, who the hell woulda fuckin’ thought that, huh?

One positive effect is maybe some of those QAnon nutburgers will finally pull their heads out of their asses.

Not a chance. The next doofus conspiracy theory that comes along, they’ll all be in.

Pizzagate was really about a child-sex ring on the bottom side of a pizza-shaped flat earth or something.

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Kragar  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:48:16pm

East County just elected to have a special election!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:49:42pm

re: #202 freetoken

Because the two counties still with precincts to report are strong Democratic areas.

But Abrams has to make up almost 115k votes, which I think is too much, unless there are mail ballots in significant numbers yet to be counted, which I doubt for Georgia.

I don’t think GA has counted their absentee or provisional ballots yet.
But, yeah finding +115K over Kemp is a pretty long shot

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:49:55pm

So if we end the night having lost Democratic seats in IN, MO and ND… but we pick up formerly Republican seats in NV and AZ (fingers crossed)… we go from 49-51 only to 48-52. Not a bad place to be considering how bleak the map initially looked, and it sets things up nicely for 2020.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:50:00pm

Tester hanging on. Evers hanging on.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:50:39pm

re: #202 freetoken

Because the two counties still with precincts to report are strong Democratic areas.

But Abrams has to make up almost 115k votes, which I think is too much, unless there are mail ballots in significant numbers yet to be counted, which I doubt for Georgia.

Especially who is counting.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:52:01pm

re: #207 retired cynic

Tester hanging on. Evers hanging on.

and Sinema hanging near. Those three are hopeful.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:53:44pm

So far, I’ve only been able to find three races in the last century when the president’s party won seats in the midterms:

- ‘34 under FDR, who was able to bank on the American public wanting badly to drag itself out of the Great Depression that they sent him more Democrats to do that.

- ‘98 under Clinton, which was (you guessed it) totally due to Monicagate and the public’s disgust with the dog-and-pony show that the GOP had waged.

- ‘02 under Dubya, capitalizing on the “war-time president” bit to get the public to hand him the Senate.

By the way, in all three instances, the president’s party won seats in both houses. I’m not finding an instance where one lost a house and barely hung on to the other.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:55:09pm

Bomb threat at the Oklahoma City Memorial leads to arrest.

ksnblocal4.com (KSNB Scottsbluff, more at the link):

A man who was spotted taking unusual photos of a memorial to Oklahoma City bombing victims and who warned his sister in Iran that hundreds more people would die has been arrested on a complaint of threatening to kill with explosives.

Amiremad Nayebyazdi, 32, was being held Tuesday in Oklahoma County jail without bail, according to records.

A court affidavit said police received a tip Thursday from a longtime friend of Nayebyazdi living in California that the suspect had left a phone message for his sister in Iran saying “hundreds are going to die in Oklahoma City.”

In the message, Nayebyazdi said, “Don’t tell mom and dad until after it is seen on the news,” the affidavit said.

Nayebyazdi, who has a degree in petroleum engineering and worked for an oil company in Oklahoma City, was spotted at the Oklahoma City National Memorial on several occasions taking photos of “unusual angles and places where people didn’t normally take photographs,” the affidavit said. The memorial is to remember the 168 people who were killed in the Oklahoma City bombing in April 1995.

Police, FBI and the bomb squad searched Nayebyazdi’s apartment and his vehicle on Thursday, but no explosives were found. Police said he admitted leaving the message for his sister and that it forewarned of an explosion, but he denied making any explosive devices.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:55:49pm

re: #206 ipsos

So if we end the night having lost Democratic seats in IN, MO and ND… but we pick up formerly Republican seats in NV and AZ (fingers crossed)… we go from 49-51 only to 48-52. Not a bad place to be considering how bleak the map initially looked, and it sets things up nicely for 2020.

If it’s 52-48 by week’s end, then it will make the “celebration” even more ridiculous. They will have lost the House and picked up a single seat in the Senate.

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:56:01pm

re: #209 retired cynic

and Sinema hanging near. Those three are hopeful.

I’m very hopeful about Sinema, based on reports that there’s still a huge chunk of uncounted Maricopa County votes.

Likewise with Tester… he’ll do well in the college towns, Missoula and Bozeman, neither of which has even gotten to 50% counted.

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:57:10pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

If it’s 52-48 by week’s end, then it will make the “celebration” even more ridiculous. They will have lost the House and picked up a single seat in the Senate.

And there’s that Mississippi runoff coming. I don’t expect a miracle there, but who knows?

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Amory Blaine  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:57:34pm

With governor’s race deadlocked, Milwaukee County has more than 45,000 uncounted absentee ballots

With the race for governor hanging in the balance, Milwaukee County Clerk George Chistenson said his office still had more than 45,000 uncounted ballots shortly after midnight Wednesday.

Christenson said his office had just received 7,800 ballots from Wauwatosa, which were delayed because of a problem with a computer modem. Officials were reconciling those numbers and would soon release the totals.

Christenson said he was still waiting to receive 45,000 outstanding absentee ballots from the City of Milwaukee.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 10:59:32pm

NATE SILVER1:53 AM
This should put Evers back in front in Wisconsin, obviously:

Charlie Sykes

@SykesCharlie
Milwaukee Ballots In … Walker:7181 Evers 38k
12:51 AM - Nov 7, 2018

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:00:58pm

With 94% of the precincts reporting, they are calling Medicaid Expansion under the ACA for Nebraska a victory. (336,000+ for, 296,000+ against).

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:01:09pm

The ninnies at 538 are still at it, trying to make their guesses sound all serious:

NATHANIEL RAKICH1:46 AM
California’s Senate results are eyebrow-raising. Sen. Dianne Feinstein leads fellow Democrat Kevin de Leon just 54 percent to 46 percent — a lot closer than most people thought it would be. Is it huge turnout among progressives? (De Leon was challenging Feinstein from the left.) Is it that Republicans just instinctively voted against their old nemesis Feinstein? My guess, looking at the county-by-county results, is the latter.

Read that carefully.

On the one hand Rakich is saying that de Leon turned out the “progressives”.

On the other hand, Rakich is saying Republicans are voting for de Leon.

What a ninnie.

I vote for de Leon for a simple reason - Feinstein is 85 years old and a full term would make her 91 at the end.

Not to be all ageist, but that’s just too old. There is too much a chance that she falls ill and has to miss a vote.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:01:47pm

The conservative voters scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:02:03pm

re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I”m thinking there will be a recount

@nytimes
The Wisconsin race for governor between Scott Walker and Tony Evers is very close

Or, maybe not
re: #215 Amory Blaine

With governor’s race deadlocked, Milwaukee County has more than 45,000 uncounted absentee ballots

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:06:33pm

Clark County (Las Vegas) just dumped its returns. Now an insurmountable lead for Jacky Rosen, and for the Ds in the statewide races too (gov, lt gov, AG)…

So long, Dean Heller!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:07:46pm

re: #221 ipsos

Clark County (Las Vegas) just dumped its returns. Now an insurmountable lead for Jacky Rosen, and for the Ds in the statewide races too (gov, lt gov, AG)…

So long, Dean Heller!

Tonight’s setting the 2020 stage for the Democrats quite nicely. Good to see.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:08:13pm

HA!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:10:22pm

It would appear that several of the rural counties in my state will not be posting election results. In my county, the clerk’s office seems to indicate that the county Website is hosted out-of-state (not surprising since my ISP is in Missouri), and they can’t get hold of anyone to post the results to the Website.

As for the Secretary of State’s office, they aren’t posting local results on the State Website (alleging cost), though past elections they have done so.

No news outlet in the Nebraska Panhandle has anything about any local races here. It appears I’m going to be going to bed wondering whether I’m still on the village board or not. In the meantime, I have the agenda for the next meeting to read, which starts off with the Pledge of Allegiance followed by oath/affirmation of office of the new board.

We’ll see what happens.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:11:38pm

Adiós Heller

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:12:19pm

I didn’t know they had set a new launch date yet.
I wonder if there will be any live video

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:12:29pm

I do wonder if the revelations in recent days about Foxconn not only scaling back the number of workers, but looking to bring in Chinese workers because they couldn’t find enough skilled workers in WI was what tipped the scale.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:12:44pm

re: #225 VegasGolfer

Adiós Heller

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Hooray!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:15:00pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I didn’t know they had set a new launch date yet.
I wonder if there will be any live video

looks like yes

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:15:50pm

re: #221 ipsos

Clark County (Las Vegas) just dumped its returns. Now an insurmountable lead for Jacky Rosen, and for the Ds in the statewide races too (gov, lt gov, AG)…

So long, Dean Heller!

Yay.

And Joe Cunningham held on and beat mini-Trump, Katie Arrington! We now have TWO Dem reps in South Carolina!!

Democrats flipped this seat ✓

Election results
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.7% Joe Cunningham Dem 135,810 ✓
49.3% Katie Arrington GOP 132,301
100% of precincts reporting (352/352)

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:21:16pm

Then there are people who should spend a lifetime in prison for the way they treat children, like this guy.

wcfcourier.com (graphic description warning)

An Iowa man was sentenced to prison for allowing his four-month old baby to die of diaper rash.

The prosecutor alleged the baby was in the same diaper for up to fourteen days.

He was convicted of child endangerment and murder in less than an hour by the jury.

The mother is to be tried separately.

Their two-year old daughter was healthy, while the infant was malnourished.

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:22:10pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

Good! Some friends and I have been spitting nails about this one for quite a while.

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:22:45pm

26-9. That was the split before tonight, the number of seats we had to defend versus the number they did. And right now, it looks like when it’s all and done, we’ll have won 25 and they’ll have won 10.

It’s about perspective. If you look at those results and say “The Dems blew it!,” then you totally lack the ability to comprehend it.

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ipsos  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:24:09pm

Reading through the local news sources in Arizona, it looks like there are more than 100,000 votes in Maricopa and maybe Pima that won’t be counted until THURSDAY at the earliest. So between that race, Montana and Florida, the end result could be anywhere from 48-52 to 45-55 when it’s all over.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:27:08pm

One more gloaty tweet about Joe Cunningham:

I repeat:

Republicans, with the active aid of Trump, managed to blow a South Carolina seat where the Democrats didn’t even field a candidate four years ago.

And, for the worst take of the night, I give you Kasie Hunt:

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retired cynic  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:27:51pm

re: #234 ipsos

In that case, and since the 538 live blog is going dark until tomorrow, maybe I should get some sleep.

Heck, now I’m hungry….

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:31:07pm

Every. Fucking. Vote. Counts.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:32:15pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:32:36pm

Utah Proposition 2 passes. Utah has legal medical cannabis.

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:34:56pm

It’s only a matter of time cannabis gets rescheduled (or unscheduled altogether, alcohol ain’t scheduled!), I’m guessing after 2020 when Democrats take control of the federal government.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:35:28pm

And Harley’s still clinging to his lead over the horrible Dana

Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.2% Harley Rouda Dem 70,513
49.8% Dana Rohrabacher* GOP 69,913
63% of precincts reporting (249/395)

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:35:37pm

Take it in folks! It worked out tonight.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:35:52pm

re: #236 retired cynic

In that case, and since the 538 live blog is going dark until tomorrow, maybe I should get some sleep.

Heck, now I’m hungry….

I’m going to hit rum o’clock, since I won’t find out my local results until somebody calls me or something.

No local races anywhere in the Nebraska Panhandle are being reported in local media or county Websites, though Scott’s Bluff and Box Butte counties have not yet completed counting (Scottsbluff and Alliance).

The Democrats did pretty good nationwide tonight. They put up a heck of a fight, and though we didn’t get every race (sorry Beto), the House is now ours.

I’ll bet that a lot of local races came out for the good gals (and guys) as well.

Plus Democratic initiatives probably slipped through in places where you wouldn’t expect them (like Medicaid Expansion here) by a wide margin. (Our state sued to get out of the ACA earlier.)

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teleskiguy  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:36:31pm

Yeah buddy!

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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:37:05pm

re: #242 teleskiguy

Take it in folks! It worked out tonight.

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But we didn’t take the Senate, so it wasn’t a “wave,” so sayeth the pundits who were treating talk of a “red wave” credibly just days ago.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:37:35pm

Amy Tarkanian perennial loser Danny Tarkanian’s (NV) wife going fully into the gutter trashing everybody in sight for her husband losing another race.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:37:40pm

re: #239 teleskiguy

Utah Proposition 2 passes. Utah has legal medical cannabis.

Missouri voters pass Amendment 2, legalizing medical marijuana

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:41:09pm

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:44:02pm

California and San Diego county are not reporting very quickly. Perhaps they’ve been overwhelmed.

District 48 (Putinbacher) is the one to watch. Also 49 (Car Thief’s old district) too, but I think the pollsters figured out that will flip to the Dems.

Looking at Hunter-the-lesser - he’s leading, but not by much, and while the tracker websites are saying 37% of the precincts in that district have reported, when I look at the county map most of those precincts are in the hinterlands. The bulk of the voters lay in the El Cajon valley and most of those precincts are not yet counted.

And San Diego county has a very large number of mail ballots to count…

So it could be a couple of weeks till we know what really happened.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:45:49pm

Scroll on NASA TV says launch has been scrubbed for today.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:47:36pm

50% of the total votes cast here have now been counted, with 301 precincts still out (that represents about 600,000 votes still uncounted). Omaha and its suburbs, Scottsbluff and its suburbs, and Alliance are the cities still uncounted.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:48:03pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:49:21pm

re: #248 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

“Mr. Koch, this Scott Walker calling.”

“Scott Walker? Should I know that name?”

“I’m the manager you hired to run the state of Wisconsin.”

“Oh right, Scotty Walker. What can I do for you?”

“Well, Mr. Koch, I lost.”

“You lost? Lost what?”

“My job, sir. I lost my job last night.”

“WHAT?! AFTER ALL THE MONEY WE SPENT ON YOU, YOU LOST?!”

“Mr. Koch, I can expl…”

“IF I WANT AN EXPLANATION, I’LL PAY SOMEBODY TO GET ME ONE! DON’T EVER CALL THIS NUMBER AGAIN! *click*”

“Mr. Koch? Sir?”

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:50:26pm

re: #252 BeachDem

Yup, Bloomberg still has the square colored red, even though the count shows Hurd behind.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:50:41pm

re: #252 BeachDem

Oooh, those 4,300 Libertarian Party votes probably made the difference in the GOP guy losing TX-23

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freetoken  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:51:58pm

That makes Ms. Jones the 217th Democratic Rep, meaning she is the one who crossed the finish line for the Democrats.

Hopefully it holds up in the recount.

And of course there will be provisional ballot disputes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:53:13pm

re: #250 Single-handed sailor

Scroll on NASA TV says launch has been scrubbed for today.

Damn it

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:54:50pm

The reason why Brian Kemp won.

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BeachDem  Nov 6, 2018 • 11:55:35pm

re: #254 freetoken

Yup, Bloomberg still has the square colored red, even though the count shows Hurd behind.

So does Politico—even though they show 100% counted and Hurd losing.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:01:28am

Oh, the Democrats control all branches of government in Colorado.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:02:49am

re: #250 Single-handed sailor

Scroll on NASA TV says launch has been scrubbed for today.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:04:33am

Chairwoman of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee Eddie Bernice Johnson. She is not a climate denier. Folks, taking back the House is a pretty big deal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:05:55am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:08:04am
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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:10:01am

Scott Walker isn’t going anywhere for awhile.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:10:32am
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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:11:51am

Since the 2020 presidential campaign has officially begun I’ll say it: Beto should run.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:13:47am

Gotta love the sweet irony.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:17:16am
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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:22:32am

Sigh… Jones now behind by a couple of hundred.

At least Bloomberg has changed the color from red to light pink.

Clearly that seat won’t be decided until all the recounting is done.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:24:05am

Putinbacher is now a couple of thousand behind with 90% of the precincts in.

However, I caution, there will be many mail ballots that will be received before the deadline. They had to be postmarked by today, but IIRC they have a couple of weeks to arrive at the registrar’s office.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:24:09am
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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:25:32am

re: #265 teleskiguy

Scott Walker isn’t going anywhere for awhile.

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Scotty is outraged. The only time votes are supposed to show up is when they benefit him, not the other guy!

///////

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:52:33am

Jeff’s a little slow on the uptake….

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 12:58:57am

I got to thinking about my congressional race here in Colorado’s 3rd. I made a thread.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:05:12am

Good morning folks, what’d I miss?

Oh yeah!!!

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:07:41am

I’m sensing a pattern of Republicans knowingly voting for crooks.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:20:13am

So went looking through Wiki to see if I could find a parallel to last night’s Senate results, i.e. a field where there was a better than 2:1 difference between the parties in number of seats being defended. I not only found a parallel, I found a midterm that matched Donny’s ignoble achievement of losing the House but winning Senate seats.

It was 1970.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:37:54am

re: #278 Targetpractice

Giphy

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:50:04am

Fine by me…

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:51:33am
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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:52:42am

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 1:58:02am

Is there any possible way we can avoid weeks of screaming about how Nancy needs to “step aside” so (insert “younger/more progressive” Congressman) can just become Speaker without any opposition?

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Dave In Austin  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:01:02am

What’s up with Nunes seat? Anyone know?

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:03:16am

re: #284 Dave In Austin

What’s up with Nunes seat? Anyone know?

Unfortunately…

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Dave In Austin  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:04:21am

Julie lost her fight in the TX25 tonight. Eager was an ass about the whole thing. He never said her name through the intire race. Such an ass…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:04:48am

My local race is a nail biter.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:06:01am

In the future, the DNC really needs to start reserving money for billboards with this in every state where they have a candidate running…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:06:19am

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

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sagehen  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:07:26am

re: #277 Single-handed sailor

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I’m sensing a pattern of Republicans knowingly voting for crooks.

yah but…

I’ll see you a collins and hunter, but raise you a menendez.

No actual high ground for anybody this time. on this particular question.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:17:53am
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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:35:56am

Oh happy day!!!!!!!!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:38:22am

Crosses fingers!

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:46:37am

One of my favorite pastimes is checking out the Steam VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat) Forum to see assholes whine about their new ban. Why? It seems a lot of Russian accounts are regularly banned and I like to see someone in the U.S. kicking Russian ass and taking their money while doing so.

Judging from the full page of Russian complaints right now, it’s nice to see that the Republicans aren’t the only ones feeling pain tonight. :)

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 2:47:37am

Seems like a Trump endorsement is like waking up next to a horse’s head.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 3:07:26am

re: #292 Archangelus

As I keep warning people, there are usually many mail ballots to be counted.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 3:16:57am

Tim Canova and his supporters are fucking delusional. Dude ran as an independent in a four way race and is absolutely convinced he should have won.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 3:21:54am

re: #293 goddamnedfrank

Crosses fingers!

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68% now and she’s up by more than a thousand….

*keeps fingers crossed*

Edit: Up to 76.2% and Hill’s advantage is growing.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 7, 2018 • 3:38:27am

This explains the Republican party and their voters…

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 3:56:16am
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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:01:47am

Unprocessed Ballots Status

It typically takes weeks for counties to process and count all of the ballots. Elections officials have approximately one month to complete their extensive tallying, auditing, and certification work (known as the official canvass).

Most notably, voting by mail has increased opens new window significantly in recent years and many vote-by-mail ballots arrive on, or up to three days after, Election Day (vote-by-mail ballots postmarked on or before Election Day and received by the county elections official no later than three days after the election are included in the official canvass). In processing vote-by-mail ballots, elections officials must confirm each voter’s registration status, verify each voter’s signature on the vote-by-mail envelope, and ensure each person did not vote elsewhere in the same election before the ballot can be counted.

Other ballots that are processed after Election Day include provisional ballots opens new window (processed similar to vote-by-mail ballots), conditional voter registration opens new window provisional ballots, and ballots that are damaged or cannot be machine-read and must be remade by elections officials.

State law requires county elections officials to report their final results to the Secretary of State by December 7, 2018. The Secretary of State has until December 14, 2018, to certify the results for the election. For the most up-to-date vote counts before the statewide certified results are published, you may contact a county elections office opens new window directly.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:03:24am

This thread needs some OG Frank Zappa.

Inca Roads

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:08:49am
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mmmirele  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:13:05am

Woke up to find the Sinema/McSally race is too close to call.

We had Proposition 305, which would have expanded school vouchers. Governor Ducey was for it (and he got re-elected). However, the proposition got stomped on, which warms the cockles of my cold, cold heart. People were not happy about seeing public school monies going to private school tuitions. Of course, the retrograde Center for Arizona Policy was for it, so glad to see this one go down to defeat.

Up in Utah, Proposition 2, which legalizes medical marijuana, was passed, against the protestations of the Mormon church, which prefers a legislative solution. Of course it would. The Utah lege is 90 percent Mormon and the church leadership hoped to keep a lid on medical marijuana by bottling it up in the lege. Also, current Rep. Mia Love (R) is in a tight race with Ben McAdams, who is currently leading but it will probably be very close.

In more personal news, my mother was put on heparin last night after blood tests indicated her triponins were highly elevated. Based on Dr. Google, these proteins are reliable indicators of a heart attack, and if I were a betting woman, I would imagine her cardiologist is going to tell us today that she indeed did have a heart attack.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:13:47am

I would have preferred the Democratic party to have done better in the US Senate races, but they were always going to be a tough hall.

Yesterday taught me nothing new (maybe I’m too old?), but it did reinforce two of my beliefs:
1) America is filled with religious people who have been duped into transferring their existential crisis into a political one;
2) In certain circumstances the underdog, if they work hard and are lucky, can score the upset.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:17:06am

re: #304 mmmirele

There will be, like in California, many misc. votes to count in Arizona.

The final result of today’s election will only roll out in December, after pundits try to look like expert sociologists.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:18:54am

I have a few observations:
1) Winning back the House is huge. There was no check on Trump 24 hours ago and now there is.
2) Disappointing about losing some of the high profile races.
3) I would suggest we have a ticket of a westerner and Midwesterner in 2020. Perhaps Kamala Harris or Beto, yes I know he lost and it’s rare as hell to go from the House to the Presidency but all rules are off paired with Sherrod Brown or Amy Klobuchar

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:19:21am

re: #305 freetoken

I was disappointed by the KY, IN, TX and FL results, but elated that the Dems took back the House and several state governorships and/or legislative houses. Even better, it seems that a lot of candidates who had Trump’s endorsement lost their races to Democrats, a real slap in the face for Donnie Small Hands. If the GOP were even halfway rational, its leadership would consider letting Trump twist in the wind as Mueller and the Democratic House go after him and his cronies. He’s a liability, not an asset.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:19:38am

I’m really enjoying the fact that the odious Pete Sessions is out in Texas. If anything is a shot across the bow for the future of Republicans in Texas, this is it. The best part is that his opponents win (and his loss!) was assisted by Beto’s run. I hope to see more of this in the next election. Texas would be the big nut to crack in Republican support.

I hope to see Beto back, I think he has a lot of game left in him.

re: #302 teleskiguy

One Size and Joe’s Garage are my two favorite albums of his. What a talent he was.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:20:04am

Local results are coming in. In Scott’s Bluff County, results are slowed by a landslide of write-in votes.

In the city of Bayard (other side of the county), the independent candidate for mayor blew out the Republican mayor. In the county seat of Bridgeport, the popular candidate Charlie Browne (really) won there.

Democratic women on the Bayard school board was mixed, while Leyton (Village of Dalton in Cheyenne County, my school board) is incomplete because results are not yet in from my county.

Broadwater’s numbers aren’t in yet, so we’re still up in the air here.

KNEB.tv Election Night Coverage (Late)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:20:34am

re: #309 Odie Hugh Manatee

I’m really enjoying the fact that the odious Pete Sessions is out in Texas. If anything is a shot across the bow for the future of Republicans in Texas, this is it. The best part is that his opponents win (and his loss!) was assisted by Beto’s run. I hope to see more of this in the next election. Texas would be the big nut to crack in Republican support.

I hope to see Beto back, I think he has a lot of game left in him.

Hell I think Beto should run for President. If he did, I’d sign up immediately.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:26:20am

I say Beto should run for Presidency because Cornyn is pretty safe I reckon since he’s actually got colleagues that like him and will go to bat for him. Abbott won re-election so governor is a no-go right now so that leaves the Presidency IMO. And let me tell you something, people really like Beto outside of Texas as well. When we were election watching last night at the Wexton party, Beto’s race definitely got the most attention. I think perhaps Beto would be a good running mate as of right now but there’s no reason he shouldn’t try the field in 2020 and have his voice heard there. Normally I’d be reluctant to send someone straight from the House to the Presidency but you know what, all bets are off and I think Beto would make a solid President. He’s intelligent, compassionate, has integrity, progressive but willing to listen, etc.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:26:52am

re: #308 wheat-dogg

In fact, of the 31 candidates Donnie endorsed, 28 lost their races. That’s a .097 batting average. He couldn’t even play in the minors.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:29:08am

re: #313 wheat-dogg

In fact, of the 31 candidates Donnie endorsed, 28 lost their races. That’s a .097 batting average. He couldn’t even play in the minors.

Hell that’s bad even for a pitcher. Using baseball. We didn’t win the pennant last night but you see the makings of something special. I think 2020 could be a very good year for us.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:33:38am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:35:23am

re: #315 Archangelus

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Aww no Barbara Comstock mentioned. But yeah a lot of high profile Republicans knocked out. Glad to see Rostov Robhrabacher go. Perhaps Russia TV will offer him a job.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:38:55am

re: #313 wheat-dogg

In fact, of the 31 candidates Donnie endorsed, 28 lost their races. That’s a .097 batting average. He couldn’t even play in the minors.

I should have said House candidates. I forgot to tally the Senate races. I’m too tired for math, I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:41:34am

re: #317 wheat-dogg

I should have said House candidates. I forgot to tally the Senate races. I’m too tired for math, I guess.

We gave him a big fuck you here in Virginia that’s for sure. I don’t think he ever came here for Corey Stewart but he definitely supported him and Corey definitely tried to tie himself to Trump and you know what, it worked, it’s why he lost.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:43:54am

We gained 3 seats alone here in VA and it’s kind of neat since they’re all in different parts of the state. The GOP has no strategy at all for winning in Va because they have no candidates with the ability nor the desire to listen to the concerns of us in NoVa. They just brush us aside as commies like McCain’s asshole brother did. And you know what, please proceed, that’s why you’ve lost this state. They might actually have a chance if they had people like Charlie Baker and Larry Hogan in their state party rather than dimwits like Corey Stewart and Ed Gillespie.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:46:46am

Oh and a sleeper for someone who I think should at least be looked at are either Bob Casey and Tom Wolf in Pennsylvania. These guys won fairly big in Pennsylvania, a Trump state. But I definitely think we need to look westward too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:49:34am

It’s “only” a state legislature seat in NH but this is an awesome story and the American dream:
bangordailynews.com
This woman’s story is incredibly inspiring.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:49:45am

I’m sure my numbers are off, but judging from Ally Maynard’s tweets, the results of Trump’s endorsements are:

Senate: 6 losses out of 13 endorsements
House: 28 losses out of 31 endorsements
Governors: 8 losses out of 11 endorsements

Total endorsements: 55
Total losses: 42

In batting average terms, that’s .236. Still not impressive.

Someone should check my stats, though.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:51:38am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

It’s “only” a state legislature seat in NH but this is an awesome story and the American dream:
bangordailynews.com
This woman’s story is incredibly inspiring.

The Bangor Daily News blocks IPs from my country, so I can’t read that story but I had read about it elsewhere.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:55:00am

There is a great deal of magical thinking in this country (that would be true elsewhere, too), and if such thinking is what drives people in political decisions then I for one don’t expect good things.

Here’s the latest Utah Outcasts as they illustrate the silliness of the comments they get, from magical thinkers:

Magic Doesn’t Exist - Comments From Trolls #37

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:55:33am

re: #323 wheat-dogg

The Bangor Daily News blocks IPs from my country, so I can’t read that story but I had read about it elsewhere.

Yeah. Not only a former refugee but someone who put herself through school too. If that’s the creeping Sharia, sign me up.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 7, 2018 • 4:59:32am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

It’s “only” a state legislature seat in NH but this is an awesome story and the American dream:
bangordailynews.com
This woman’s story is incredibly inspiring.

Yeah, her Democratic primary challenger was kind of a jerk about it (“I’ve lived here in Concord my whole life and she’s just a newcomer”), but it’s a place with an increasingly diverse population that needs representation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:02:23am

Yre: #326 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, her Democratic primary challenger was kind of a jerk about it (“I’ve lived here in Concord my whole life and she’s just a newcomer”), but it’s a place with an increasingly diverse population that needs representation.

That is a jerky thing to say. But yeah definitely.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:05:54am

As of right now, how many women will the Democrats have in the House?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:06:46am

re: #328 Belafon

As of right now, how many women will the Democrats have in the House?

Not sure but all 3 Dems we elected here in VA are women. Two beat men.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:11:57am

re: #298 Archangelus

Sweet!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:12:12am

re: #324 freetoken

Upding for Utah Outcasts.

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jeffreyw  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:13:16am

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Good morning!

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:14:02am

re: #331 Anymouse 🌹

They are part of a cadre of Youtube atheist content creators who are trying to bootstrap themselves into getting wider exposure.

Given Youtube is overrun with incel/flat-earther types, any antidote is greatly welcome.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:15:51am

god, already there is tut tutting about investigating trump on the morning shows…

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:17:28am

re: #334 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

god, already there is tut tutting about investigating trump on the morning shows…

Of course there is.

Let them tut.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:17:29am

re: #333 freetoken

They are part of a cadre of Youtube atheist content creators who are trying to bootstrap themselves into getting wider exposure.

Given Youtube is overrun with incel/flat-earther types, any antidote is greatly welcome.

I’ve put their videos up here before when they were relevant to discussions.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:18:46am

Here in California, Poizner’s attempt at rebranding himself an “independent” and not a Republican seems to have not worked. He’s losing by a large enough margin that I doubt the mail ballots can save him.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:19:51am

re: #337 freetoken

Poizner is well known, not surprised he is losing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:22:20am

Today’s regional newspaper poll “Are you glad Democrats took the House” is going 2-1 against.

Well, that’s a real shame… .

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:22:31am

Looks like Prop 6 was defeated as well here in California, I am mixed on that one, I voted no even though I am paying more at the pump since I drive a truck but yes would have made it impossible to raise fuel taxes in the future (thus my no vote).

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:24:56am

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹

Today’s regional newspaper poll “Are you glad Democrats took the House” is going 2-1 against.

Well, that’s a real shame… .

Did you win, or is your election commission waiting for the clay to dry on the tablets?

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A Mom Anon  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:24:56am

I’m hearing 97 women in the House will be Dems out of a total of 119 women as of January 3, 2019. Is that right? It’s a fine start, we just have to keep working. And ENJOY these wins for fuck’s sake. Nothing in this country was accomplished all at once. It’s incremental. If we work together it goes faster. No moping, celebrate, rest and then get back to it.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:26:34am

re: #342 A Mom Anon

It will probably take quite a while to sort out, but there seems to be a hidden blue tide at the statehouse level, nation-wide.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:26:41am

In more important news, no one won the MegaMillions jackpot last night… so Friday it is estimated to be worth an annuity of $90M. One more week of no jackpot winner and once again the jackpot will climb with a feverish pitch.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:27:17am

re: #342 A Mom Anon

I am enjoying the fuck out of this. Now, not only will the ACA and other stuff be protected but real investigations can begin. Rats are definitely going to be leaving the ship and of course now Mueller will be handing his report to responsible adults.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:28:43am

Part of the delay here in my village is the write-in candidate who filed against me. Those ballots have to be counted by hand, hence my county has only partial results. It may be a day or two before I find out whether I actually survived the election.

While the filing date for incumbent candidates was in May, for write-in candidates it’s thirty days before an election.

So, it will be a wait for the LGF candidate.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:29:31am

re: #343 Decatur Deb

Also this election, ballot measures and local elections suggest that progressive minded people and ideas have a chance.

What I suspect is that the brand “Democrat” has been so poisoned by the propaganda of the hate-right that a label alone now carries too much weight.

Note how here in San Diego the “undecideds” in voter registration is skyrocketing, while the Republicans are losing voters and the Democrats are slowing increasing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:30:34am

re: #341 Decatur Deb

Did you win, or is your election commission waiting for the clay to dry on the tablets?

Carting them to Lincoln by prairie schooner.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:32:36am

re: #347 freetoken

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Note how here in San Diego the “undecideds” in voter registration is skyrocketing, while the Republicans are losing voters and the Democrats are slowing increasing.

That happened across the country after Nixon and W as well, sometimes called “the temporarily embarrassed Republican.” The problem is they seem to get temporarily embarrassed a lot.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:34:59am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

My own precinct has yet to report in. Granted there are several like that in the county.

None of that will likely matter in any race. Most races around here are pretty set by demographics.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:34:59am

re: #334 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

god, already there is tut tutting about investigating trump on the morning shows…

Yup…Dems will “overplay their hand”. Started on CNN last night. Santorum had the early “this is good news for John McCain” moment: Losing the House was good for Trump because he can now run against the House ‘20, as opposed to running against the media, which made people uncomfortable. Uh, sure.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:36:18am

re: #342 A Mom Anon

Oh and it appears two of our new Dems are Muslim women too.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:36:57am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:37:38am

re: #347 freetoken

Three retrograde state constitution amendments passed overwhelmingly in AL: fetal personhood, 10 commandments to be displayed, and one specifically designed to prevent the next Doug Jones.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:38:49am

Good morning Lizards.

This aged well…….

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:41:20am

Ten precincts still not counted in Nebraska, one of them is mine.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:42:27am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

The Ten Commandments thing speaks directly to my contention that what has happened in American polity is that the fundamentalist right-wing have succeeded in transferring existential angst into political angst.

Same with the fetal personhood movement.

This is why I always harp on about creationism.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:46:01am

Tap tap tap…..

Peeks in the window…

Everyone ok?

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:47:10am

re: #358 dangerman

Tap tap tap…..

Everyone ok?

Hello,
Gimme a minute for coffee then yes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:47:58am

re: #354 Decatur Deb

Three retrograde state constitution amendments passed overwhelmingly in AL: fetal personhood, 10 commandments to be displayed, and one specifically designed to prevent the next Doug Jones.

One amendment would establish it as Alabama policy to “recognize and support the sanctity of unborn life and the rights of unborn children” and state that the constitution does not provide a right to abortion or abortion funding.

How do they even do anything with that. It also runs against Roe, so it doesn’t matter what the state constitution says against that (though I suppose it provides another chance for Alabama to spend vital state tax money on another tilt at a windmill).

As for the Ten Commandments amendment, that also provides another opportunity to take a run at the Establishment Clause and lose (particularly since it treats religions unequally - I imagine someone will try to run the Shahada up to the Supreme Court).

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:48:48am

re: #357 freetoken

The Ten Commandments thing speaks directly to my contention that what has happened in American polity is that the fundamentalist right-wing have succeeded in transferring existential angst into political angst.

Same with the fetal personhood movement.

This is why I always harp on about creationism.

This is why I harp on religion in general. It wasn’t just fundamentalists who voted for those.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:49:37am

re: #357 freetoken

The Ten Commandments thing speaks directly to my contention that what has happened in American polity is that the fundamentalist right-wing have succeeded in transferring existential angst into political angst.

Same with the fetal personhood movement.

This is why I always harp on about creationism.

They always bait our ballot with God/Guns/Gays amendments to turn out the Common Clay.

Per Wiki: “…Section 182 disqualified from registering or voting all “idiots and insane persons”, and persons who married interracially, or were convicted of “crime against nature” (homosexuality) or vagrancy.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:49:51am

The uncivil war is delayed not denied.

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Dizzy  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:50:51am

re: #358 dangerman

Tap tap tap…..

Everyone ok?

Yeah. Early on that fucking 538 real-time algorithm nearly gave me a stroke. Lesson learned (again): don’t watch early returns, they are meaningless.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:51:55am

re: #360 Anymouse 🌹

How do they even do anything with that. It also runs against Roe, so it doesn’t matter what the state constitution says against that (though I suppose it provides another chance for Alabama to spend vital state tax money on another tilt at a windmill).

As for the Ten Commandments amendment, that also provides another opportunity to take a run at the Establishment Clause and lose (particularly since it treats religions unequally - I imagine someone will try to run the Shahada up to the Supreme Court).

It’s not a constitution, it’s a statewide Minnesota Multiphasic.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:53:16am

re: #362 Decatur Deb

What very few pundits, especially the TV network talking heads, will discuss is the role that the move to a post-Christian society plays in politics.

That idea, if breached at all, is usually hidden under cover words like “values”.

A few months ago, when Pence was campaigning among evangelicals, he made part of his statement that the “nones” are not increasing.

That was a lie, of course, but Pence was dog-whistling about those darn non-Christians.

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:54:08am

The House race in my district is at 49.5%-50.5%. I don’t expect anyone to show up and finish counting that last 10% of ballots before 9 AM (2 hours). Maybe I’ll go open another bike shop to distract myself. There was no non-compete clause signed…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:54:50am

Is there anything that Nancy Pelosi can say or do that won’t be criticized? Anything?

Why should she tip her hand? She said what she was supposed to and can now go about her business. She’s a pro. (I would tell trump to fuck off, but that would be wrong and counter productive).

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:56:01am

re: #367 wrenchwench

The House race in my district is at 49.5%-50.5%. I don’t expect anyone to show up and finish counting that last 10% of ballots before 9 AM (2 hours). Maybe I’ll go open another bike shop to distract myself. There was no non-compete clause signed…

Catching up. Is it a Good Thing or a Bad Thing that you sold your shop?

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:56:01am

re: #367 wrenchwench

The House race in my district is at 49.5%-50.5%. I don’t expect anyone to show up and finish counting that last 10% of ballots before 9 AM (2 hours). Maybe I’ll go open another bike shop to distract myself. There was no non-compete clause signed…

Do you have a garage that you can work from?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 5:59:54am

re: #368 I Would Prefer Not To

shit I’d be tweeting a meme “Investigations are coming”

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wheat-dogg  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:01:36am

re: #366 freetoken

What very few pundits, especially the TV network talking heads, will discuss is the role that the move to a post-Christian society plays in politics.

That idea, if breached at all, is usually hidden under cover words like “values”.

A few months ago, when Pence was campaigning among evangelicals, he made part of his statement that the “nones” are not increasing.

That was a lie, of course, but Pence was dog-whistling about those darn non-Christians.

They are afraid to admit that Christianity, especially their hyper-judgmental, insular kind of religion, is losing market share. The USA is slowly going the way of Europe, where people view church and religion as more a cultural artifact than an entire belief/living system. Even my conservative family members, for the most part, do not attend church regularly, do not slavishly read the Bible, and only tip their hat to their nominal religion on major holidays. They’re past lukewarm and heading toward being room temperature believers. I assume this attitude is now pretty typical, which drives the real believers absolutely batty. No one pays attention to their pulpit-pounding.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:02:14am

re: #370 MsJ

Do you have a garage that you can work from?

I have one she can work from.

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:03:21am

re: #369 Decatur Deb

Catching up. Is it a Good Thing or a Bad Thing that you sold your shop?

Both. It will take me a while to catch up and sort it all out (including how I feel about it). It is a miracle that it went as a going concern rather than bit-by-bit. The guy who bought it is the guy I hired 20 years ago, and trained for 5 years to be my eventual replacement (while both of us had no idea that could ever happen).

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:04:50am

Regarding the Florida Senate race, it should be noted that Broward and Palm Beach counties have yet to complete their mail ballot counting, and both are strong Nelson areas.

And most counties have not done their provisional ballots yet.

Nelson is behind by only 34k votes.

This is why Bloomberg and some others haven’t colored in FL as a win for the Republicans.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:05:19am

re: #366 freetoken

What very few pundits, especially the TV network talking heads, will discuss is the role that the move to a post-Christian society plays in politics.

That idea, if breached at all, is usually hidden under cover words like “values”.

A few months ago, when Pence was campaigning among evangelicals, he made part of his statement that the “nones” are not increasing.

That was a lie, of course, but Pence was dog-whistling about those darn non-Christians.

Still hard to ignore the organizing and motivating power of the Black churches in the South. If I show up at one more AME church this month, they’re making me a deacon.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:06:27am

re: #374 wrenchwench

Both. It will take me a while to catch up and sort it all out (including how I feel about it). It is a miracle that it went as a going concern rather than bit-by-bit. The guy who bought it is the guy I hired 20 years ago, and trained for 5 years to be my eventual replacement (while both of us had no idea that could ever happen).

Karma Bikema

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:06:40am

re: #368 I Would Prefer Not To

Is there anything that Nancy Pelosi can say or do that won’t be criticized? Anything?

Why should she tip her hand? She said what she was supposed to and can now go about her business. She’s a pro. (I would tell trump to fuck off, but that would be wrong and counter productive).

Personally, I’m just laughing my ass off at all the talking heads who criticized her for stating her certainty that the DNC would retake the House.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:07:10am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

Karma is cyclical.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:07:35am

re: #373 Anymouse 🌹

I have one she can work from.

I think that might be a bit of a commute. :D

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:07:56am

re: #370 MsJ

Do you have a garage that you can work from?

No garage (buyer probably checked, he’s no dummy).

re: #373 Anymouse 🌹

I have one she can work from.

When I rode my bike across Kansas, each little town had a guy with a garage who served as the town’s bike mechanic. You could ask anyone on a bike, and they would point the way, or take you there. That was in 1986.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:08:08am

re: #379 Aussie Apocalypse

Karma is cyclical.

What goes around needs chain lube.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:09:47am

re: #381 wrenchwench

No garage (buyer probably checked, he’s no dummy).

When I rode my bike across Kansas, each little town had a guy with a garage who served as the town’s bike mechanic. You could ask anyone on a bike, and they would point the way, or take you there. That was in 1986.

If you see an adult on a bike around here, and he’s not wearing spandex, he’s working off that last DUI.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:10:29am

Two great quotes from Ezra Klein

Nothing predicts presidential popularity like a strong economy. And yet in November 2018, Trump is less popular at 3.7 percent unemployment than Obama was in November 2010, when unemployment was 9.8 percent. That’s a tremendous political failure, and it should be seen as such.

Trump’s continued political survival is so unlikely that he’s often graded on a steep curve. It’s like watching a dog make pancakes: Who cares if the pancakes are good? When his stratagems work, or simply seem to work, he’s heralded as a genius. When they don’t, he rarely absorbs the blame another politician would face

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:11:34am
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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:12:00am

re: #372 wheat-dogg

They are afraid to admit that Christianity, especially their hyper-judgmental, insular kind of religion, is losing market share. The USA is slowly going the way of Europe, where people view church and religion as more a cultural artifact than an entire belief/living system. Even my conservative family members, for the most part, do not attend church regularly, do not slavishly read the Bible, and only tip their hat to their nominal religion on major holidays. They’re past lukewarm and heading toward being room temperature believers. I assume this attitude is now pretty typical, which drives the real believers absolutely batty. No one pays attention to their pulpit-pounding.

There’s nothing worse than not being told you’re irrelevant

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:13:38am

So, how many polls predicted the GOP Senate gain ? Eff me that’s bad news.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:13:39am

re: #384 dangerman

Two great quotes from Ezra Klein

Cruz, Scott, and Desantis won because the economy is strong. Whites voted their racism because they didn’t have to vote their pocket books. Had the economy been bad, the GOP would have been slaughtered.

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:13:56am

re: #383 Decatur Deb

If you see an adult on a bike around here, and he’s not wearing spandex, he’s working off that last DUI.

These are were my people. Also the ones who never drank, but couldn’t get a license for the same reasons they couldn’t keep a place to live, or keep track of time, or remember where they left that bike.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:14:31am

re: #387 Unshaken Defiance

So, how many polls predicted the GOP Senate gain ? Eff me that’s bad news.

We were predicted to lose at least one from what I remember.

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:16:49am

re: #389 wrenchwench

These are were my people. Also the ones who never drank, but couldn’t get a license for the same reasons they couldn’t keep a place to live, or keep track of time, or remember where they left that bike.

Hmmm….this could be related to why the bike shop is no longer mine….

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:17:23am

re: #378 Targetpractice

Personally, I’m just laughing my ass off at all the talking heads who criticized her for stating her certainty that the DNC would retake the House.

She was so sure she’s been quietly lining up speaker votes for weeks

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:17:32am

For every Benghazi investigation, pronouncement or harsh accusation there should now be one on emoluments, Trumps tax returns. Russian money connections and Trumps pre Presidential decades of money laundering, tax evasion. Because how we run our country is at least as important as any embassy or consulate in another country. After all that’s done look at his term.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:18:12am

re: #387 Unshaken Defiance

So, how many polls predicted the GOP Senate gain ? Eff me that’s bad news.

The Senate gain is only a couple of seats at most. The Dems faced the worst map in a century. The gain the GOP got there in terms of power really didn’t do anything for them.

On the other hand, in 2020 they will be facing a worse map than we did, during a Presidential election, and two more years of the brilliance of Trump’s presidency. After all the candidates he endorsed during this year’s special elections and the general election who went down, I imagine they will be stuck: Do we take his endorsement and chance a beating from the independent voters, or do we refuse his endorsement and take a beating from ours?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:18:16am

re: #389 wrenchwench

These are were my people. Also the ones who never drank, but couldn’t get a license for the same reasons they couldn’t keep a place to live, or keep track of time, or remember where they left that bike.

Habitat describes itself as a ministry. No reason not to do the same with bikes. In survivable weather, a lot of people travel the North-South routes to Florida with everything they own in panniers. (They’re usually pushing, not riding, at least in our small town.)

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:18:37am

re: #246 VegasGolfer

Amy Tarkanian perennial loser Danny Tarkanian’s (NV) wife going fully into the gutter trashing everybody in sight for her husband losing another race.

That dude needs to get a job. He’s such a loser.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:20:40am

re: #388 Belafon

Cruz, Scott, and Desantis won because the economy is strong. Whites voted their racism because they didn’t have to vote their pocket books. Had the economy been bad, the GOP would have been slaughtered.

These margins are razor thin
Mandate my ass…..

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:21:11am

re: #395 Decatur Deb

Habitat describes itself as a ministry. No reason not to do the same with bikes. In decent weather, a lot of people travel the North-South routes to Florida with everything they own in panniers.

There is already a non-profit bike shop in town. They are registered as such, I lived it. Our Habitat is halfway between my home and my old shop.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:21:19am
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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:23:41am

re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nancy Pelosi is the Minority Leader. That Huck a duck Sanders doesn’t know or care shows just how fact-free Trumpworld is from the top on down.

Until the Democratic caucus votes in January to select its leadership, Pelosi remains the Minority Leader.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:24:38am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:24:52am

Off to scoop up all the campaign signs I put out last week (those that weren’t scooped by helpful Republicans).

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:25:10am

Oh my god, seeing one of my old classmates posting a picture of NY and how the state went saying “so much red but cuomo is still governor” he used to be relatively intelligent. Land != people. *facepalm*

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:25:46am

re: #397 dangerman

These margins are razor thin
Mandate my ass…..

1 vote is a mandate for a Republican. A landslide is not for a Democrat. It is always thus in both the GOP and the press.

I can’t remember the times I heard that President Obama didn’t have a mandate.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:25:48am

re: #393 Unshaken Defiance

For every Benghazi investigation, pronouncement or harsh accusation there should now be one on emoluments, Trumps tax returns. Russian money connections and Trumps pre Presidential decades of money laundering, tax evasion. Because how we run our country is at least as important as any embassy or consulate in another country. After all that’s done look at his term.

Like I noted above, neither party has faced a situation as unfavorable as the DNC saw in the Senate this year since 1970. Then, as now, the DNC had to defend 20+ seats vs the GOP’s 10. And just like last night, the DNC held the GOP to a measly 2 seat gain.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:26:55am

re: #403 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Upstate NY has pockets of deep red among a sea of blue. Downstate is a deep blue with a smatter of red districts - and a handful of those flipped, including Dan Donovan on Staten Island.

That’s how you knew this was a wave election, because typically safe GOP seats were up for the taking.

Across the river in NJ, Democrats picked off a couple of seats there too.

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wrenchwench  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:28:44am

re: #402 Decatur Deb

Off to scoop up all the campaign signs I put out last week [(those that weren’t scooped by friendly Republicans)].

That is one of the most important jobs. Thank you.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:31:19am

looking for the good news:

from dkos

Democrats won every measure of vote totals or seat totals tonight. Don’t let the Republicans or the MSM get away with claiming otherwise.

Alex Seitz-Wald
‏Democrats have *flipped* 7 state legislative chambers and 333 seats, adding 6 more trifectas (gov+both chambers), per DLCC.

Few ever pay attention to these races, but they’re important for redistributing and waves can be leveraged for major gains.

Terri D
Replying to @realDonaldTrump

You’re awed at how well they did??

Dems won MORE VOTES and MORE SEATS tonight, in both the House and the Senate.

HOUSE:
Dems ~48 million votes, 230 seats
Rs ~45M votes, 205 seats

SENATE:
Dems ~42M votes, 22 seats
Rs ~32M votes, 13 seats

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:31:23am

LOLOL Dana Rohrabacher. Don’t let the door hit ya…

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:32:38am

re: #405 Targetpractice

Like I noted above, neither party has faced a situation as unfavorable as the DNC saw in the Senate this year since 1970. Then, as now, the DNC had to defend 20+ seats vs the GOP’s 10. And just like last night, the DNC held the GOP to a measly 2 seat gain.

An excellent point I had overlooked.

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:34:07am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

This is why I harp on religion in general. It wasn’t just fundamentalists who voted for those.

Oh, yes, of course. Every Christian is incapable of independent thought and must vote lock step with the fundies. Pardon me for disappointing you.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:34:12am

Stormy for the win. Not for everyone and NSFW

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:34:31am

\
GREEN -

Getting
Republicans
Elected
Every
November

Without fail, this happens every goddamned election. Enough fringe lefties think that the Democratic candidate isn’t good enough, and in the process get a GOP extremist elected.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:35:08am

Of the four red states which had Medicaid Expansion on the ballot, it passed convincingly in three (NE, ID, UT), and failed in one (MO).

cnbc.com

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:35:49am

re: #406 lawhawk

Yeah I am a native New Yorker from upstate and everyone there always wanted to cut off NYC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:37:38am

HAIL TO THE VICTORS VALIANT
HAIL TO THE CONQUERING HEROES
HAIL HAIL TO MICHIGAN THE CHAMPION OF THE WEST

Whittmer: Governor!
Stabenow: Senator!
Lawrence, Tlaib & other Dem women: Congresspeople!
LEGAL POT!
END GERRYMANDERING!

I will continue to live here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:37:43am

re: #411 William Lewis

Oh, yes, of course. Every Christian is incapable of independent thought and must vote lock step with the fundies. Pardon me for disappointing you.

I guarantee you there were no atheists voting for the Ten Commandments, and there were a bunch of Christians who are not fundies who did.

I never claimed every Christian voted for that. Thanks for strawmanning what I wrote.

Alabama is majority-Christian. They got those votes from somewhere, along with the pro-foetus amendment.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:38:59am

re: #413 lawhawk

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GREEN -

Getting
Republicans
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Every
November

Without fail, this happens every goddamned election. Enough fringe lefties think that the Democratic candidate isn’t good enough, and in the process get a GOP extremist elected.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:39:08am

re: #413 lawhawk

To be fair, the Green candidate (named Green) did say that she endorsed Sinema.

Now we can debate whether those votes for her would have gone to Sinema if only Green wasn’t on the ballot. However, I am not sure one can conclude that.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:39:30am

re: #405 Targetpractice

Like I noted above, neither party has faced a situation as unfavorable as the DNC saw in the Senate this year since 1970. Then, as now, the DNC had to defend 20+ seats vs the GOP’s 10. And just like last night, the DNC held the GOP to a measly 2 seat gain.

I think they might have gained a net of 3: MO, ND, FL, IN, minus NV. Also saw in the NYT that Tester in MT was losing by a few thousand votes, but still expected to win? That one bears watching.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:39:35am

re: #408 dangerman

Winning back statehouses and chambers in the state legislatures, plus the governorships, is huge.

That’s where you get a bench for higher offices, and Democrats sorely need to replenish their bench.

The Senate was always the longshot, as this was the worst class to defend in generations.

We also saw how gerrymandering and voter suppression efforts continue to give GOP advantage they neither deserve nor earned. It’s all about retaining power for the elites, using bigotry and racism to stoke fears among their base - and Trump’s best at that.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:39:52am

Protest votes will not necessarily go to those we wish to win.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:42:56am

re: #419 freetoken

To be fair, the Green candidate (named Green) did say that she endorsed Sinema.

Now we can debate whether those votes for her would have gone to Sinema if only Green wasn’t on the ballot. However, I am not sure one can conclude that.

Green only endorsed Sinema a couple days before the election. I don’t know how many votes were early votes or absentee ballots for Green, but that might have made the difference.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:43:25am

re: #419 freetoken

To be fair, the Green candidate (named Green) did say that she endorsed Sinema.

Now we can debate whether those votes for her would have gone to Sinema if only Green wasn’t on the ballot. However, I am not sure one can conclude that.

Didn’t she drop out after early voting was well underway?

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:43:50am

re: #419 freetoken

To be fair, the Green candidate (named Green) did say that she endorsed Sinema.

Now we can debate whether those votes for her would have gone to Sinema if only Green wasn’t on the ballot. However, I am not sure one can conclude that.

I will

One doesn’t tend to vote green if they’d be happy with this particular lot of Rs
You vote the R

No I have no data to back this up

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:45:07am
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:46:49am

re: #420 Sir John Barron

I think they might have gained a net of 3: MO, ND, FL, IN, minus NV. Also saw in the NYT that Tester in MT was losing by a few thousand votes, but still expected to win? That one bears watching.

With 55% of the vote counted in Montana, Tester is behind by three thousand votes.

mtelectionresults.gov

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:47:00am

re: #426 MsJ

Seems the totals leave off some votes.

Here in California around half the votes are yet to be counted.

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makeitstop  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:48:24am

Yeah, keep yappin’, asshole.

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ipsos  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:48:38am

re: #420 Sir John Barron

I think they might have gained a net of 3: MO, ND, FL, IN, minus NV. Also saw in the NYT that Tester in MT was losing by a few thousand votes, but still expected to win? That one bears watching.

We still don’t know - and won’t know today or maybe even tomorrow - on a few key races.

Arizona is far from over. The local news there was reporting last night that there were tens and maybe even hundreds of thousands of “late early” votes in the two big counties, Maricopa and Pima, that won’t be counted until Thursday at the earliest. IT IS FAR FROM OVER.

Nelson’s race hasn’t yet been called and could still tip back his way.

If Sinema wins AZ, Nelson hangs on in FL and Tester in MT, we’re up two (NV and AZ) and down three (MO, IN, ND) for a net GOP gain of just a single seat. And again, that was against monumental headwinds.

But the point is… the numbers we’re seeing from AZ are apparently not at all complete. Fuck the Greens and all, but it’s too soon to try to do actual math on whether they tipped the seat red.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:49:56am

re: #429 makeitstop

It’s not how it works.

Not that Trump cares. He knows his bigot brigade base doesn’t care about things like facts or logic or that the House has subpoena power to investigate the crap out of Trumpworld, including every federal agency where Trump’s cronies have engaged in wrongdoing and malfeasance - by their own agency watchdog reports (as in EPA, Interior, Commerce, etc.)

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Broad With Sass  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:49:59am

Mandatory senate recount to happen in Florida

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:50:04am

re: #429 makeitstop

Yeah, keep yappin’, asshole.

Is he going to investigate The Netherlands and their money-laundering investigation into his cronies and businesses? Good luck with that.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:51:47am

re: #334 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

god, already there is tut tutting about investigating trump on the morning shows…

DJT is threatening to…threaten stuff if there are investigations.

So, he’s saying he’ll keep tweeting out threats and insults just as he’s done for two years.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:52:10am

Evil apparently never fucking dies. These two need to meet their maker already.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:53:39am

re: #427 Anymouse 🌹

With 55% of the vote counted in Montana, Tester is behind by three thousand votes.

mtelectionresults.gov

Gah! Only 55% of the vote counted? C’mon Montana.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:54:11am

Completely delusional. Trump is addled.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:55:14am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:55:44am

re: #437 MsJ

Completely delusional. Trump is addled.

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I can’t wait to see him tweet when he loses two Novembers from now. HE is going to be even more bitter.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:56:01am

re: #429 makeitstop

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Yeah, keep yappin’, asshole.

Not “us”. Just you

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:58:19am

Aside from the Blue Wave, and DJT’s campaigning, and the number of Senate seats Dems had to defend last night, there are some longer term trends at work as well.

It really wasn’t that long ago when the Dakotas sent 4 Democrats to the U.S. Senate. Not that those states would ever be considered liberal, but the partisan make up of their delegations (their at-large congressman were Dems not long ago, too) didn’t really match the partisanship of their voters, and now those two have become more aligned and it will be difficult I fear to regain seats like those.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 6:59:06am

re: #437 MsJ

Completely delusional. Trump is addled.

“I was on the ballot and I Won everywhere there was an election except for a few seats in the House. We did the Best out of any first term POTUS in history!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:01:06am

re: #441 Sir John Barron

Aside from the Blue Wave, and DJT’s campaigning, and the number of Senate seats Dems had to defend last night, there are some longer term trends at work as well.

It really wasn’t that long ago when the Dakotas sent 4 Democrats to the U.S. Senate. Not that those states would ever be considered liberal, but the partisan make up of their delegations (their at-large congressman were Dems not long ago, too) didn’t really match the partisanship of their voters, and now those two have become more aligned and it will be difficult I fear to regain seats like those.

I find it pretty interesting that two consistently very Democratic states- states that have mostly Dem reps and senators like Massachusetts and Maryland just gave Republicans a second shot at governor. Granted Baker and Hogan respectively aren’t your typical 21st century Republican but that’s pretty shocking given how divided the country is right now. I don’t know as much about Baker as I do Hogan since I’m across the river from Hogan but Hogan ran a smart campaign.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:01:27am

re: #441 Sir John Barron

ND and SD have no major urban areas. Fargo and Sioux Falls are overgrown small towns.

This is the America of the early 21st century - lots of rural areas with few people but two US Senators.

This is why the US Senate is one of the most anti-democratic institutions, among Republics around the world.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:02:19am

re: #441 Sir John Barron

Aside from the Blue Wave, and DJT’s campaigning, and the number of Senate seats Dems had to defend last night, there are some longer term trends at work as well.

It really wasn’t that long ago when the Dakotas sent 4 Democrats to the U.S. Senate. Not that those states would ever be considered liberal, but the partisan make up of their delegations (their at-large congressman were Dems not long ago, too) didn’t really match the partisanship of their voters, and now those two have become more aligned and it will be difficult I fear to regain seats like those.

If D’s don’t want to live in a particular lightly populated state, that’s what’s gonna happen

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:02:40am

Gillum lost in Florida by just under 55 000 votes. The top two 3rd party candidates got 71 000 combined.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:04:24am

re: #445 dangerman

If D’s don’t want to live in a particular lightly populated state, that’s what’s gonna happen

That’s true. No way could I live in either Dakota. If it has to be cold, let me have some city and or coast.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:05:35am

re: #445 dangerman

If D’s don’t want to live in a particular lightly populated state, that’s what’s gonna happen

Right, it was always an oddity. I guess name recognition, Dems active at local and state gov levels helped obtain the national seats for a period but the GOP has caught up there.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:07:24am

Just found out a friend of mine from college (who I am still friends with) was in a band with Sean Casten, Illinois’ new 6th District Representative who beat 6 term Republican Peter Roskam. Pretty cool 6 degrees of separation kinda thing. :)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:07:51am

re: #448 Sir John Barron

Right, it was always an oddity. I guess name recognition, Dems active at local and state gov levels helped obtain the national seats for a period but the GOP has caught up there.

Can’t underestimate that there are probably some non political factors that helped guys like Daschle in office a long time too. I bet Daschle was great at constituent service. I’ve never lived in a rural or sparsely populated area but I imagine that good constituent service goes a long way there. Plus in those days, the farmers yeah they were conservative but I think more big picture than now. I don’t know though.

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sagehen  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:07:52am

re: #415 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yeah I am a native New Yorker from upstate and everyone there always wanted to cut off NYC.

I’m in Manhattan; we’d be happy to let you.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:08:10am

re: #444 freetoken

ND and SD have no major urban areas. Fargo and Sioux Falls are overgrown small towns.

This is the America of the early 21st century - lots of rural areas with few people but two US Senators.

This is why the US Senate is one of the most anti-democratic institutions, among Republics around the world.

Right, and I fear that problem is getting worse.

At least some positive gains were made in the upper Midwest. Pleasantly surprised Scott Walker lost. I remember the recount against him. Looked like he had swung that state to the right, but I guess he overstayed his welcome running for a third term(?).

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:08:36am

re: #445 dangerman

If D’s don’t want to live in a particular lightly populated state, that’s what’s gonna happen

That’s not what is happening though.

The conversion of rural areas to solid Republican areas is an old movement in America that goes back to FDR, when the rural Republicans were his opposition.

Also, the very fact that the Dakota territory was split in two is something to note, as it harkens back to the days when states were created explicitly to manipulate elections and balance of power in the US.

Retrospectively I think that was a very immoral thing to do. It was based on the idea that the indigenous population did not matter, that the only thing that mattered was a great land grab across this continent.

So we are stuck with the fruits of 19th century imperialism.

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CarolJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:08:37am

re: #421 lawhawk

Also it kills dead any talk of a Constitutional Convention. You need 2/3 for it plus the Amendments need 2/3 of the states. So Constitutional Crazytown has been delayed for quite a while.

Also a big deal for this newly retired Fed-no cuts in Social Security or Federal Pensions for at least another 2 years. And even my state Medicaid is safe-I assume that the results elsewhere have scared Republicans, especially those having to face voters in a Presidential year.

All the concern trolling about investigating Trump is just that-Trump isn’t going to get more popular between now and 2020, and investigating him isn’t going to alienate more people than he’s already alienated.

The House is going to increase its margin as the 2 indicted Congresspeople are either forced to leave through incarceration or needing to spend that money on lawyers. I’m not going to even speculate how many decide to retire/resign rather than be in the minority.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:09:05am

Strange, Vox is reporting Tester ahead by about 900 votes in Montana, while the Secretary of State there is reporting Rosendale ahead by about 3,000 votes.

Where did Vox get their numbers?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:09:18am

P.S. Charles. Chrome has been showing LGF as “! Not secure” lately… did anything break or change? I don’t recall changing/adding anything on my end.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:10:08am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Can’t underestimate that there are probably some non political factors that helped guys like Daschle in office a long time too. I bet Daschle was great at constituent service. I’ve never lived in a rural or sparsely populated area but I imagine that good constituent service goes a long way there. Plus in those days, the farmers yeah they were conservative but I think more big picture than now. I don’t know though.

Yeah, the nationalization of local and state politics has fed into the Senate races.

On the other hand, the Dem candidate for county executive here essentially nationalized his election and defeated the GOP incumbent (who was a pretty moderate guy in any event).

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:10:16am

Here is my list of Democrats To Watch For 2020. Feel free to add your own!

Kamala Harris
Tammy Duckworth
Beto O’Rourke
Cory Booker
Julian Castro
Kirstin Gillibrand
Sherrod Brown
Joe Biden

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Dave In Austin  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:11:09am

I know I posted this up earlier… But JFC, What a sore winner

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:12:27am

re: #454 CarolJ

Also it kills dead any talk of a Constitutional Convention. You need 2/3 for it plus the Amendments need 2/3 of the states. So Constitutional Crazytown has been delayed for quite a while.

Also a big deal for this newly retired Fed-no cuts in Social Security or Federal Pensions for at least another 2 years. And even my state Medicaid is safe-I assume that the results elsewhere have scared Republicans, especially those having to face voters in a Presidential year.

All the concern trolling about investigating Trump is just that-Trump isn’t going to get more popular between now and 2020, and investigating him isn’t going to alienate more people than he’s already alienated.

The House is going to increase its margin as the 2 indicted Congresspeople are either forced to leave through incarceration or needing to spend that money on lawyers. I’m not going to even speculate how many decide to retire/resign rather than be in the minority.

Yeah I just read an article about the drive for a Constitutional Convention by the likes of ALEC (that’s an org that has kind of dropped off the radar but is still active).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:12:29am

re: #453 freetoken

That’s not what is happening though.

The conversion of rural areas to solid Republican areas is an old movement in America that goes back to FDR, when the rural Republicans were his opposition.

Also, the very fact that the Dakota territory was split in two is something to note, as it harkens back to the days when states were created explicitly to manipulate elections and balance of power in the US.

Retrospectively I think that was a very immoral thing to do. It was based on the idea that the indigenous population did not matter, that the only thing that mattered was a great land grab across this continent.

So we are stuck with the fruits of 19th century imperialism.

True the rural areas exempting the South in those days was some of the biggest safe Republican territory. I really think we need to have someone on the ballot from the West or Midwest. I don’t know but I find myself seeing Sherrod Brown perhaps not for President himself but perhaps as a running mate, he seems to be able to do well in Ohio despite being considerably more progressive than his constituents. We need someone to speak that kind of language while at the same time being sensitive to the needs of our own base’s interests. My ideal for a ticket would be a Westerner and Midwesterner at this point with one of them being a PoC and or woman.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:12:36am

Together with the degenerate Hunt clan, the Koch family practically created fascist conservatism as we know and loathe it today. Their old man, Fred Koch, was one of the founders of the John Birch Society.
At around the same time, the Hunts promoted a young model turned activist named Phyllis Schlafly into a nationalist firebrand. All the Hunts were notorious womanizers, incidentally. H.L. Hunt, the family patriarch, had 3 wives (two at the same time) and more than 20 children. The sons may have been worse, their porcine physicality notwithstanding. Hunt was a pillar of the First Baptist Church of Dallas (the largest in the world) and the leading contributor to Dallas’s Criswell Bible College. The Hunts were the “Texas billionaires” President Eisenhower called “stupid” for their opposition to social security.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:12:39am

re: #456 GlutenFreeJesus

P.S. Charles. Chrome has been showing LGF as “! Not secure” lately… did anything break or change? I don’t recall changing/adding anything on my end.

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Chrome is just pointing out sites that aren’t https.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:14:39am

re: #462 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Together with the degenerate Hunt clan, the Koch family practically created fascist conservatism as we know and loathe it today. Their old man, Fred Koch, was one of the founders of the John Birch Society.
At around the same time, the Hunts promoted a young model turned activist named Phyllis Schlafly into a nationalist firebrand. All the Hunts were notorious womanizers, incidentally. H.L. Hunt, the family patriarch, had 3 wives (two at the same time) and more than 20 children. The sons may have been worse, their porcine physicality notwithstanding. Hunt was a pillar of the First Baptist Church of Dallas (the largest in the world) and the leading contributor to Dallas’s Criswell Bible College. The Hunts were the “Texas billionaires” President Eisenhower called “stupid” for their opposition to social security.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:14:43am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

Here is my list of Democrats To Watch For 2020. Feel free to add your own!

Kamala Harris
Tammy Duckworth
Beto O’Rourke
Cory Booker
Julian Castro
Kirstin Gillibrand
Sherrod Brown
Joe Biden

I’d add Amy Klobuchar. I think she’d be great. She’s very popular in Minnesota, she in fact won the CD that we lost there, and she has a lot of intelligence and toughness. We have a few Minnesota lizards. What say you guys about Amy? I always thought although I liked Franken, I thought Klobuchar would have made the better President.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:14:44am

re: #460 Sir John Barron

Yeah I just read an article about the drive for a Constitutional Convention by the likes of ALEC (that’s an org that has kind of dropped off the radar but is still active).

The Koch Brothers (and Libertarians in general) have really wanted to rewrite the Constitution to remake the nation into a feudal state.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:16:38am

re: #457 Sir John Barron

Yeah, the nationalization of local and state politics has fed into the Senate races.

On the other hand, the Dem candidate for county executive here essentially nationalized his election and defeated the GOP incumbent (who was a pretty moderate guy in any event).

Right. Split tickets appear to be more and more a thing of the past. What happened in Maryland and Massachusetts was interesting but Hogan I think A) ran a positive campaign for the most part, B) his reputation as a moderate is legit, and C) Jealous was a bad candidate.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:17:03am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Got CL’d on last thread.

Connecticut poised to elect a GOP governor.

Lamont won!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:19:05am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

I’d add Amy Klobuchar. I think she’d be great. She’s very popular in Minnesota, she in fact won the CD that we lost there, and she has a lot of intelligence and toughness. We have a few Minnesota lizards. What say you guys about Amy? I always thought although I liked Franken, I thought Klobuchar would have made the better President.

Speaking of which, the woman who replaced the former Senator from Mn won, so that’s another woman in the Senate. Just thought I’d mention that; the sky didn’t fall.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:19:25am

re: #466 Anymouse 🌹

The Koch Brothers (and Libertarians in general) have really wanted to rewrite the Constitution to remake the nation into a feudal state.

Did you win?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:19:56am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

Here is my list of Democrats To Watch For 2020. Feel free to add your own!

Kamala Harris
Tammy Duckworth
Beto O’Rourke
Cory Booker
Julian Castro
Kirstin Gillibrand
Sherrod Brown
Joe Biden

I’d add in Pennsylvania’s Tom Wolf and Bob Casey.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:22:51am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

Right. Split tickets appear to be more and more a thing of the past. What happened in Maryland and Massachusetts was interesting but Hogan I think A) ran a positive campaign for the most part, B) his reputation as a moderate is legit, and C) Jealous was a bad candidate.

Yup on all 3.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:22:56am

re: #471 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’d add in Pennsylvania’s Tom Wolf and Bob Casey.

Good picks Joe. I’d definitely look at them. unfortunately, I don’t think Casey is the most charismatic type but he is a good Senator and someone who I think can resonate with some of the voters we’ll need to gain or gain back in those areas we lost in 2016. Less familiar with Wolf TBH. It honestly shocks me that Pennsylvania has only had one native born President.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:22:57am

An expansion of the House should be a major goal of the Democratic Congress. Lepertarians and other fascists will squeal like stuck hogs over it, since this will destroy their last hope, the power of the gerrymander and the disproportionality of the Senate. That is all the more reason to push for it.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:23:10am

re: #465 HappyWarrior

I’d add Amy Klobuchar. I think she’d be great. She’s very popular in Minnesota, she in fact won the CD that we lost there, and she has a lot of intelligence and toughness. We have a few Minnesota lizards. What say you guys about Amy? I always thought although I liked Franken, I thought Klobuchar would have made the better President.

Michael Moore sez we need to find someone who is “Be-loved” by the public and not a Pol. There’s some logic to that considering who we’re up against. That may be a long game. Meanwhile, time is short because the addled monkey with the pen is being buoyed by the best best political consultants/lawyers money can buy. Stephen Miller is playing a big part in the message. Think about that. And they are doing it NOW.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:24:28am

re: #472 Sir John Barron

Yup on all 3.

I didn’t see a single Jealous ad. I’m sure he’s a great civil rights advocate but I really wasn’t buying him as governor material. I would have voted for him because I think he’s got better ideas than Hogan but MD could do a lot worse than Hogan too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:24:53am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

An expansion of the House should be a major goal of the Democratic Congress. Lepertarians and other fascists will squeal like stuck hogs over it, since this will destroy their last hope, the power of the gerrymander and the disproportionality of the Senate. That is all the more reason to push for it.

Unfortunately nothing will come of it unless we figure out some way to gain control of the Senate.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:25:33am

re: #470 Big Beautiful Door

Did you win?

Ten precincts are still out in the state, including mine. (Those ten represent write-in votes; the fellow who filed against me filed as a write-in candidate. Write-ins have to be hand counted.)

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Interesting Times  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:26:03am

YES!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:26:41am

re: #475 Dave In Austin

Michael Moore sez we need to find someone who is “Be-loved” by the public and not a Pol. There’s some logic to that considering who we’re up against. That may be a long game. Meanwhile, time is short because the addled monkey with the pen is being buoyed by the best best political consultants/lawyers money can buy. Stephen Miller is playing a big part in the message. Think about that. And they are doing it NOW.

I kind of see that and even though I don’t like Michael Moore- I find him pompous and hate him claiming to be the voice of the working class just like I do Bernie but he did correctly predict that the Rust Belt would be Trump turf. However, I don’t think the proper response to Trumpism is a left wing Trumpism. By that, I don’t want a cult of personality. Do I want people to like our candidate? Sure but I want someone who knows how to and is willing to govern too.

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CongoJack  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:27:45am

re: #458 The Vicious Babushka

Here is my list of Democrats To Watch For 2020. Feel free to add your own!

Kamala Harris
Tammy Duckworth
Beto O’Rourke
Cory Booker
Julian Castro
Kirstin Gillibrand
Sherrod Brown
Joe Biden

I’m going with:

Sherrod Brown for President
Tammy Duckworth/Kamala Harris for VP

… this is subject to change (as I was a huge Al Frankin fan before he fell from grace).

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:29:55am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:31:39am

re: #481 CongoJack

I’m going with:

Sherrod Brown for President
Tammy Duckworth/Kamala Harris for VP

… this is subject to change (as I was a huge Al Frankin fan before he fell from grace).

I’d paid Kamala with Sherrod and Tammy with a Westerner. I know he just lost and maybe his shine isn’t going be there but how about Tammy Duckworth and Beto O’Rourke. You have two fairly young people, progressive, from key regions, and who know how to fight.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:32:02am

In Summary: Florida and Texas are still Florida and Texas. Can the Florida and Texas Panhandles be walled off from the rest of the nation?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:32:36am

re: #482 Ace-o-aces

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He really thinks the Dems are going to be stupid and not unify behind a leader and give the Speakership back to the R’s. I guess the chemicals in the KFC got to his head.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:32:37am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

I’d paid Kamala with Sherrod and Tammy with a Westerner. I know he just lost and maybe his shine isn’t going be there but how about Tammy Duckworth and Beto O’Rourke. You have two fairly young people, progressive, from key regions, and who know how to fight.

Bernie/Cortez 2020!//

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Dave In Austin  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:32:45am

re: #480 HappyWarrior

The person currently in office in insane……..

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:33:35am

re: #476 HappyWarrior

I didn’t see a single Jealous ad. I’m sure he’s a great civil rights advocate but I really wasn’t buying him as governor material. I would have voted for him because I think he’s got better ideas than Hogan but MD could do a lot worse than Hogan too.

It was not a strong Dem field to begin with, but then one of the leading candidates died of a heart attack. Some former candidates chose not to run (probably smart).

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:33:36am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

Two districts in TX were flipped. Possibly a third, but that will be down to a recount and provisional ballots.

TX is not without hope.

Florida is a tougher nut, I think, simply because it exists solely to be a vacation spot.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:33:52am

re: #485 Dr. Matt

In Summary: Florida and Texas are still Florida and Texas. Can the Florida and Texas Panhandles be walled off from the rest of the nation?

Bugs Bunny had the right idea all the way back in 1949.

Bugs Bunny Cuts Florida Loose

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:33:55am

re: #463 Belafon

Chrome is just pointing out sites that aren’t https.

Ok good. :)

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Interesting Times  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:34:33am

re: #490 freetoken

Florida is a tougher nut, I think, simply because it exists solely to be a vacation spot.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:34:35am

re: #487 Big Beautiful Door

Bernie/Cortez 2020!//

Alexandria won’t even be eligible. Hell I’m older than her and I won’t be until 2024. Joking aside, the Berners really like Tulsi too. I suspect none of them know that she in fact is quite hawkish and they’re only going by that Tulsi was a Bernie backer. I like Oregon’s Jeff Merkley btw but I don’t know enough about his style and if what has worked for him in Oregon would translate.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:35:25am

re: #490 freetoken

It’s hard to believe that a state that voted for Obama twice continues to vote Nazi.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:36:02am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:36:29am

re: #496 Anymouse 🌹

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Oh yes “your” success.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:36:49am

re: #493 Interesting Times

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Florida elections are so close, I hope restoring voting rights to felons could make a difference in 2020. I bet there are a lot of them in a state as big as Florida!

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CongoJack  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:36:59am

re: #484 HappyWarrior

I’d paid Kamala with Sherrod and Tammy with a Westerner. I know he just lost and maybe his shine isn’t going be there but how about Tammy Duckworth and Beto O’Rourke. You have two fairly young people, progressive, from key regions, and who know how to fight.

I like Beta a lot but he needs a high elected office than the state house. As for a westerner…we have a former governor here… John Hickenlooper - which I am not a great fan of - but he fits the bill.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:37:25am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

I’m afraid the Democrats became dependent upon Obama’s charisma without looking at the underlying weakness in the Democratic strategy.

That weakness is this: reactionary movements to modernity have more purchase than idealism.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:39:14am

re: #500 freetoken

I’m afraid the Democrats became dependent upon Obama’s charisma without looking at the underlying weakness in the Democratic strategy.

That weakness is this: reactionary movements to modernity have more purchase than idealism.

But if the US had equal voting rights in which every vote counted the same the GOP would’ve lost in a landslide last night.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:39:19am

re: #499 CongoJack

I like Beta a lot but he needs a high elected office than the state house. As for a westerner…we have a former governor here… John Hickenlooper - which I am not a great fan of - but he fits the bill.

Normally I’d agree but I think part of the reason why historically House members don’t make good presidential candidates is because they’er not in the Spotlight as much as Senators, after all 4.35 times more of em than Senators but Beto has been in the spotlight for awhile. I think that’s a fair critique and if he doesn’t run, I think he should seriously consider trying again against John Cornyn though I think Cornyn would be a tougher opponent than Cruz if only for the fact that Cornyn’s Republican colleagues actually like him and don’t think raw dog food is more pleasurable to eb around.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:39:56am

re: #487 Big Beautiful Door

Bernie/Cortez 2020!//

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:40:33am

re: #500 freetoken

I’m afraid the Democrats became dependent upon Obama’s charisma without looking at the underlying weakness in the Democratic strategy.

That weakness is this: reactionary movements to modernity have more purchase than idealism.

I think we definitely benefited from Obama’s strengths in 08/12. Just gotta instead of finding the next Obama have that person be their own man or woman just like Obama wasn’t the new Bill Clinton, he was his own man.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:40:38am

re: #490 freetoken

Two districts in TX were flipped. Possibly a third, but that will be down to a recount and provisional ballots.

TX is not without hope.

Florida is a tougher nut, I think, simply because it exists solely to be a vacation spot.

I think giving back the right to vote to former felons will be huge. That’s disenfranchised a whole lot of blacks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:41:14am

Non-election news:

Lowes is closing fifty-one stores; twenty in Canada and thirty-one in the USA. They say the majority of the stores are being closed where there are two within ten miles of each other.

cnbc.com (with chart showing where the stores are).

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bratwurst  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:41:32am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:42:41am

re: #454 CarolJ

You need 3/4 of the states.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:43:10am

re: #501 Big Beautiful Door

But if the US had equal voting rights in which every vote counted the same the GOP would’ve lost in a landslide last night.

But that is not the world in which we live.

As I pointed out above, we live in the fruits of 19th century imperialism.

The whole concept of US “states” is based on the idea that the rich and powerful can carve up geography so that said rich and powerful can own more land.

We now live in the shadow of that. The US Senate is a child of such colonialistic thinking.

If we really believe in the one-person-one-vote, then we ought to push for expanding the House and making non-partisan redistricting part of the Constitution.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:43:35am

re: #453 freetoken

That’s not what is happening though.

The conversion of rural areas to solid Republican areas is an old movement in America that goes back to FDR, when the rural Republicans were his opposition.

Also, the very fact that the Dakota territory was split in two is something to note, as it harkens back to the days when states were created explicitly to manipulate elections and balance of power in the US.

Retrospectively I think that was a very immoral thing to do. It was based on the idea that the indigenous population did not matter, that the only thing that mattered was a great land grab across this continent.

So we are stuck with the fruits of 19th century imperialism.

i dont disagree with the history
im just thinking in the here and now

- amazon moves to VA, that’s more than likely going to bring in dems and swing the state more blue than it’s current purple

- sorry dakotas, there’s nothing to attract large numbers of d’s into moving there, nor are the current crop of r’s likely to morph into d’s

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:44:23am

re: #507 bratwurst

As I noted the other day, SE Cupp is not particularly different than other conservative pundits; she just has kewl Rick Perry glasses.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:45:03am

re: #506 Anymouse 🌹

Only one in Texas, in Irving, and there are tons of those stores here in the DFW area.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:45:31am

re: #507 bratwurst

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Yawn S.E. yawn.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:46:22am

re: #510 dangerman

i dont disagree with the history
im just thinking in the here and now

- amazon moves to VA, that’s more than likely going to bring in dems and swing the state more blue than it’s current purple

- sorry dakotas, there’s nothing to attract large numbers of d’s into moving there, nor are the current crop of r’s likely to morph into d’s

In Texas on the other hand, new arrivals helped defeat Pete Sessions!

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:46:47am

re: #514 Big Beautiful Door

In Texas on the other hand, new arrivals helped defeat Pete Sessions!

And he complained about them mightily.

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Broad With Sass  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:46:48am

re: #498 Big Beautiful Door

Florida elections are so close, I hope restoring voting rights to felons could make a difference in 2020. I bet there are a lot of them in a state as big as Florida!

1.4 million new voters

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:47:46am

re: #510 dangerman

i dont disagree with the history
im just thinking in the here and now

- amazon moves to VA, that’s more than likely going to bring in dems and swing the state more blue than it’s current purple

- sorry dakotas, there’s nothing to attract large numbers of d’s into moving there, nor are the current crop of r’s likely to morph into d’s

What’s happening is where the country is growing, it’s trending more Dem. Where it’s not. It’s becoming more Rep. There are exceptions of course.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:49:01am

re: #507 bratwurst

To be sure, Democrats House win is, at least in one way, a gift to Trump. They will focus the next two years on investigations, subpoenas, hearings and impeachment threats. Democratic political operatives and the media will love it. And America will hate it.

r’s keep house - good for trump
d’s take house - good for trump

are you one of those non-college educated people we hear so much about?

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:52:37am

re: #517 HappyWarrior

What’s happening is where the country is growing, it’s trending more Dem. Where it’s not. It’s becoming more Rep. There are exceptions of course.

the r’s are being left with the places no one wants to move to or live in — sorta

you want to make your little corner of all that empty land ‘great again’, be my guest.

leave the rest of us alone

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ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:53:51am

re: #358 dangerman

Tap tap tap…..

Peeks in the window…

Everyone ok?

I’m pissed at Ohio voters.

But overall I’m good with the elections.

One thing I hope for is the Democrats do good jobs and show the wingnuts they are better for government than Republicans. Hopefully it takes some of the wing out of the nut and grounds them.

Democrats pleasing their constituents will help with overall image of the party and help out in 2020.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:53:52am

Hmmm hmmm hmmmm mmmm,
Dum dee dum,
Wow, surprising number of likes for that one post…

Dum dee du…

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:54:45am

re: #519 dangerman

the r’s are being left with the places no one wants to move to or live in — sorta

you want to make your little corner of all that empty land ‘great again’, be my guest.

leave the rest of us alone

Maybe we need to take a nice big chunk of the west and make into Coventry and all these GOP & Libertarian types can move there instead?

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Interesting Times  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:55:14am

re: #511 Anymouse 🌹

Judging by the source, is he even reporting those poll numbers with anything close to accuracy? Where’s the original?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:55:25am

I’m giving a 96% probability that Donnie will call it a “historic win” for the GOP.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:56:35am

re: #522 William Lewis

Maybe we need to take a nice big chunk of the west and make into Coventry and all these GOP & Libertarian types can move there instead?

Only if you bail us blue dots out first.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:57:10am

I got up this am and ran my usual wednesday 9
sun came up, world is still spinning
horses, dogs, cats etc are out and about

over coffee and multi grain cheerios i read a bit about what happened
and what didnt
no election night horse racing for me

some things are better
some not so much
the path forward is clear - we can see what work we have to do next

progress is progressive
we made progress

now smile, breathe, and go slowly

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:58:15am

re: #523 Interesting Times

Judging by the source, is he even reporting those poll numbers with anything close to accuracy? Where’s the original?

He’s making it up. Polling has consistently supported investigating above 50% for over a year now.

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Ming5000  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:58:16am

Another bright spot from yesterday’s result. Trump’s not-NAFTA deal is likely dead.

https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/00216A18-E294-11E8-AACB-D25BA978757B

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:01:37am

The planet this morning:

Image: 20183111515_GOES16-ABI-FD-GEOCOLOR-1808x1808.jpg

Note the snow cap is quite visible.

Also the remnant of Xavier you can see of the coast of Mexico, doing its thing as a non-tropical storm.

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:02:51am

re: #421 lawhawk

Winning back statehouses and chambers in the state legislatures, plus the governorships, is huge.

That’s where you get a bench for higher offices, and Democrats sorely need to replenish their bench.

The Senate was always the longshot, as this was the worst class to defend in generations.

We also saw how gerrymandering and voter suppression efforts continue to give GOP advantage they neither deserve nor earned. It’s all about retaining power for the elites, using bigotry and racism to stoke fears among their base - and Trump’s best at that.

Keeping Walker away from the next redistricting helps Wisconsin beyond anything else. Now we can fix the gerrrymandering here and in a couple of years we’ll be well shed of several slime stealing a congresscritter paycheck.

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William Lewis  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:04:33am

re: #525 Anymouse 🌹

Only if you bail us blue dots out first.

Well, I was thinking more Utah & Wyoming anyway ;) Maybe the parts of Nevada that were the Nuclear Test Ranges too?

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:04:35am

Stacy Abrams refusing to concede until all the votes are counted and no run-off is required in December.

It would appear over 700 voting machines were simply held out of service in Fulton County. The claim was because Democrats sued over voting procedures, not Jim Crow.

wonkette.com

Speaking of Jim Crow, Wonkette memorialises John Roberts’s hand in restoring it.

wonkette.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:05:25am

Xeth’s latest cartoon expresses how I feel about President KKKraKKKer JerKKK

Oh there is a naughty little bit in this…NSFW…

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danarchy  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:05:37am

re: #528 Anymouse 🌹

He’s making it up. Polling has consistently supported investigating above 50% for over a year now.

Think he is referring to this exit poll:

nbcnews.com

Voters are closely divided on the ongoing investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller into Russian interference in the 2016 election. According to NBC News Exit Poll results, 42 percent of voters nationwide approve Mueller’s handling of the investigation, while 45 percent disapprove.

As you may imagine there is a large partisan divide.

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ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:12:30am

re: #361 Anymouse 🌹

This is why I harp on religion in general. It wasn’t just fundamentalists who voted for those.

Well, since you used the word…

Phrasal Verb:
harp on
To talk or write about to an excessive and tedious degree; dwell on.

Harping on anything doesn’t work. In fact it does the reverse.

The trick is to get into facts that the other parties have to think about and they have to come to their own conclusion.

They don’t want to be told over and over they are wrong. They will recoil and stop listening and then go into ignoring and hating the messenger.

Religion and politics (and sports!) all dance on a fine line that is easily crossed.

Making the example yourself and how you came to the conclusion is better than any harping.

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plansbandc  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:12:46am

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:13:12am

re: #535 danarchy

Think he is referring to this exit poll:

nbcnews.com

According to NBC News Exit Poll results, 42 percent of voters nationwide approve Mueller’s handling of the investigation, while 45 percent disapprove.

As you may imagine there is a large partisan divide.

As usual, they’re deriving the answer they want. A lot of people probably disapprove of Mueller’s “handling” of the investigation because Cheeto Benito isn’t currently busting rocks in Leavenworth.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:14:59am

re: #527 Dr. Matt

Here are all the Trump-endorsed candidates who crashed and burned on Tuesday

Corey Stewart losing was really nice. Not unexpected of course but still nice because I hate that CSA fanboy asshole so much. Trump didn’t really do anything for Comstock but she did bring in Pence and definitely had the R establishment backing us and she actujally did worse here than Trump did two years ago. My precinct remains conservative though. And since we’re always busy here in VA. I have to decide where I want to focus my energy next fall. I know the likely candidate for delegate, great lady and I’ve done quite a bit of campaign stuff with one of her staff who I really think one day could be an officeholder himself. Met both of them when I volunteered for Periello. But State Senate is tight here in VA and we need to flip it and I need to get rid of my jackass Republican state senator who loves Assad. So what’s a fella to do.in 2020, I’m going all out for the Presidential election and I know that they will coordinate with Warner anyhow and Warner really doesn’t need my help just like Kaine didn’t this time though Kaine smartly saw his popularity and coordinated with the Dems running for the House.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:15:45am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:15:46am

re: #538 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As usual, they’re deriving the answer they want. A lot of people probably disapprove of Mueller’s “handling” of the investigation because Cheeto Benito isn’t currently busting rocks in Leavenworth.

It’s also one poll. I bet you anything more people disapprove how Trump has handled the investigation than Mueller.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:16:30am

re: #540 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Nelson

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:18:10am

re: #527 Dr. Matt

Here are all the Trump-endorsed candidates who crashed and burned on Tuesday

desantis possibly by .7%
scott possibly by .5%

if / when trump claims he put them over the top—-
- how does he know he didnt drive people toward the d’s?
- that the margins wouldnt be larger if he never showed up?

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:18:24am

re: #540 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wow, that has GOTTA hurt …. xD

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:19:52am

re: #533 Anymouse 🌹

Stacy Abrams refusing to concede until all the votes are counted and no run-off is required in December.

It would appear over 700 voting machines were simply held out of service in Fulton County. The claim was because Democrats sued over voting procedures, not Jim Crow.

wonkette.com

Speaking of Jim Crow, Wonkette memorialises John Roberts’s hand in restoring it.

wonkette.com

as it should be everywhere always

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Mike Lamb  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:22:51am

re: #507 bratwurst

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The problem, of course, is that the media will likely follow the framing in Cupp’s tweet, and will push the idea that America hates the idea of legitimate investigations into a criminal enterprise. Meanwhile we never heard Cupp or any pundit decry the litany of Benghazi hearings or the email investigations. To the contrary, the media bought the GOP narrative and treated the entire exercise as legitimate.

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Belafon  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:24:39am

re: #546 Mike Lamb

The problem, of course, is that the media will likely follow the framing in Cupp’s tweet, and will push the idea that America hates the idea of legitimate investigations into a criminal enterprise. Meanwhile we never heard Cupp or any pundit decry the litany of Benghazi hearings or the email investigations. To the contrary, the media bought the GOP narrative and treated the entire exercise as legitimate.

Maxine Waters, et al, will take all of that under advisement.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:25:51am

The idea that Americans hate these investigations is bs. We haven’t even had one investigation started by the House Dems and Cupp is already projecting her bs on to the American people.

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ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:26:16am

re: #387 Unshaken Defiance

So, how many polls predicted the GOP Senate gain ? Eff me that’s bad news.

It was expected. Too many Democrats in red areas up for reelection. Hopefully that will swing in 2020 when we Dump Trump.

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makeitstop  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:26:56am

I’m going to have news-stream withdrawal over the next couple of days. The sheer volume of new info coming across the web in the last couple of days was overwhelming.

I’m already looking at Twitter feeds and thinking ‘Where are all the new tweets?’

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:27:49am

re: #387 Unshaken Defiance

So, how many polls predicted the GOP Senate gain ? Eff me that’s bad news.

All of them, Katie.

The map was fucking BRUTAL - 23 of 35 seats to defend, half a dozen in states where Trump won BIG.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:27:56am

re: #549 ObserverArt

It was expected. Too many Democrats in red areas up for reelection. Hopefully that will swing in 2020 when we Dump Trump.

You will. Remember 2014 was a Republican year so there’s a lot of Republicans up. And these Republicans that just won will be up in 2024, a presidential election year.

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Alephnaught  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:28:25am

Looks like Big Chief Squirrel Bonce is having a press conference any minute now…

Donald Trump speaks following US midterms – watch live

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:28:40am
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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:00am

Morning Lizards. Well yesterday pretty much went as I figured it would here in Idaho. The Prop 2 initiative (expand medicaid) passed and is now the law of the land until the next Legislative session goes into session. Whether they let it stand as is, modify it or out right kill it is the biggest question on supporters minds. As for the Governors race, well was expecting Little to win but was also pleasantly surprised at Jordan’s returns. 38% for a Native American woman running against an establishment white guy (60%) is some damn good results. Nationally, thing shook out like many of us thought they would. We retook the House and can now try to put the brakes on some of tRumps more outlandish schemes. Pelosi needs to take a hard line against both Now all I am waiting for is Mueller Senate and House Rs and hold them accountable for letting tRump get away with what he has done. This includes investigating tRump’s financial dealings as well as those he has appointed to the various Depts. Now all I am waiting for is Mueller to start dropping indictments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:10am

re: #421 lawhawk

Winning back statehouses and chambers in the state legislatures, plus the governorships, is huge.

That’s where you get a bench for higher offices, and Democrats sorely need to replenish their bench.
*snip*

It also throws a damper on that constitutional convention nonsense.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:12am

re: #551 Blind Frog Belly White

All of them, Katie.

The map was fucking BRUTAL - 23 of 35 seats to defend, half a dozen in states where Trump won BIG.

A consequence of having done well in 2006 and 2012 in Republican states and having some luck especially in 2012. Don’t get me wrong. I’m glad we had Donnelly, Heitcamp, McCaskill, etc but they benefited from even by Republican standards stupid and pigheaded candidates in 2012.

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piratedan  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:31am

I absolutely adore the fact that the GOP punditry thinks that endless trials and hearings would be bad for the GOP and Trump… I’m sorry, but if you can fellate Hillary Clinton scandals for 30 motherfucking years unashamedly and have it have the profound impact of establishing the narrative that Ms. Clinton is dirty, untrustworthy and illegitimate with NONE of those attributes being anywhere close to reality, then actual hearings about actual crimes and actual lawbreaking is going to be an absolute media bait/hate click windfall for the media who WILL EAT THIS SHIT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It’ll be scandals 24/7 because guess what? These guys in power really ARE that fucking corrupt.

I mean if the GOP can ride the racism outrage to actual public office, then scourging of the corrupt has to be a close 2nd in public popularity in America’s prurient interest mindset, Americans LOVE a good scandal and they absolutely loathe it when a criminal gets away, after all, look at what we manage to do for people smoking weed or don’t have the proper melanin levels, we have jails full of these people; so sticking a few thousand public lawbreakers there too is not a hard sell and I can guarandamntee you that these bastards broke more than a couple of statutes here and there….

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:43am
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DodgerFan1988  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:50am

Keeping things in perspective about the Cruz, DeSantis, King, and Kemp wins.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:30:10am

re: #549 ObserverArt

It was expected. Too many Democrats in red areas up for reelection. Hopefully that will swing in 2020 when we Dump Trump.

Yep. 20 Republicans and 11 Democrats, and most of the Democrats who will be running for reelection are in deep blue areas.
Republican slaughter, thy name is 2020…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:31:06am

re: #561 Archangelus

Yep. 20 Republicans and 11 Democrats, and most of the Democrats who will be running for reelection are in deep blue areas.
Republican slaughter, thy name is 2020…

We should steal Warren Harding’s 1920 slogan: A Return to Normalcy lol.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:32:38am

re: #560 DodgerFan1988

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Keeping things in perspective about the Cruz, DeSantis, King, and Kemp wins.

And TBH with those four exempting Gillum were long shots in bright red states and districts. Don’t get me wrong. I would have loved if Beto, Gillum, Schaffen, and Abrams won but they were long shots mostly running in areas that usually vote Republican even if that elephant is taking a gigantic dump on them. It does suck to see Steve King back but I bet we target his ass again in 2020 and bury the Nazi that time.

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Jay C  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:33:14am

re: #559 Anymouse 🌹

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Ummm, pleasant a thought as it might be, doesn’t the VP swear in new Senators?
I think both the Muslim women elected yesterday will be serving in the House.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:33:47am

Counting proceeds again in Montana … with 73% of the vote counted, John Tester has moved ahead by about a thousand votes.

mtelectionresults.gov

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:35:42am

re: #548 HappyWarrior

The idea that Americans hate these investigations is bs. We haven’t even had one investigation started by the House Dems and Cupp is already projecting her bs on to the American people.

one reason why so many people ‘hate’ this is they have no idea what’s going on. what mueller’s team knows and has found out. this is the quietest, tightest investigation i can remember. no leaks, no press conferences.

is it good, is it bad?
then….how good, how bad?

- we watched whitewater morph for how many years? we were involved.
- back in watergate, there was reporting all over the press - a new revelation daily
- iran/contra was public hearings

there’s no way for them to gauge it, so it’s driving them batty

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:36:09am

re: #564 Jay C

Ummm, pleasant a thought as it might be, doesn’t the VP swear in new Senators?
I think both the Muslim women elected yesterday will be serving in the House.

I think you’re right about that. Not sure who swears in House members, the Speaker I think? And yeah it is too bad because I’d love to see Pence so much as have to hold a Quran.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:36:29am

re: #564 Jay C

Ummm, pleasant a thought as it might be, doesn’t the VP swear in new Senators?
I think both the Muslim women elected yesterday will be serving in the House.

That is correct:

Representatives usually take their oath during the first day of a new Congress, when the House organizes itself. After the Speaker is elected, the Member with the longest continuous service (the Dean of the House) administers the oath to the Speaker. This tradition originated in the British House of Commons, and has been the practice in the U.S. House since at least the 1820s (the Oath Act of 1789 did not mandate it). The Speaker, in turn, administers the oath to the rest of the Members en masse. The Speaker or Speaker Pro Tempore must swear in members who miss the mass swearing-in ceremony on the first day afterward; on rare occasions, the House has authorized other Members or local judges to swear-in absent Representatives.

history.house.gov

Mike Pence will still have to deal with them though.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:37:03am

Angela Green, the Arizona Green Party nominee dropped out of the Senate race weeks ago, and endorsed Sinema… yet more than 38,000 people still voted for her. McSally is winning by less than 16,000 votes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:38:03am

re: #566 dangerman

one reason why so many people ‘hate’ this is they have no idea what’s going on. what mueller’s team knows and has found out. this is the quietest, tightest investigation i can remember. no leaks, no press conferences.

is it good, is it bad?
then….how good, how bad?

- we watched whitewater morph for how many years? we were involved.
- back in watergate, there was reporting all over the press - a new revelation daily
- iran/contra was public hearings

there’s no way for them to gauge it, so it’s driving them batty

There’s a reason why Mueller is someone who until the R machine started attacking him because Trump was someone genuinely respecetd across the aisle. Mueller is a throwback to public servants of my grandfather’s generation who served not party but country. Him and I imagine have some very different views on law and order but I know that Bob Mueller believes in what this country stands for 100%.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:38:55am

Gaa … still ten precincts out in my state (including mine) at 9:40 MST

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:39:15am
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ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:39:34am

re: #454 CarolJ

All the concern trolling about investigating Trump is just that-Trump isn’t going to get more popular between now and 2020, and investigating him isn’t going to alienate more people than he’s already alienated.

Investigating and actually making the facts of the investigation public will most likely cause moderate Republicans to turn on Big Donny. As you said, he isn’t going to gain in popularity, but he sure can gain more detractors.

Trump now has less cover. It is going to cost him.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:39:39am

re: #560 DodgerFan1988

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Keeping things in perspective about the Cruz, DeSantis, King, and Kemp wins.

and from up above:

Dems won MORE VOTES and MORE SEATS, in both the House and the Senate.

HOUSE: 3 million more D votes
Dems ~48 million votes, 230 seats
Rs ~45M votes, 205 seats

SENATE: 10 million more D votes
Dems ~42M votes, 22 seats
Rs ~32M votes, 13 seats

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:39:48am

My wife is now doing the radio interview with the Orlando station I hung up a couple days ago …

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:39:48am

I’m really looking forward to some checks on the Trump crime family corruption.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:40:58am

I know that logically it makes sense given the way things are but it drives me nuts to hear that Pelosi says, again, impeachment is off the table per a raw story report…Link

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:41:11am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:41:20am

re: #572 freetoken

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Jennifer Wexton didn’t mention her opponent nor Trump by name in her victory speech. She did however thank her mom, sister, husband, sons, staff, and gave a speech that echoed some words Lincoln said. But yeah Mr. indict Hillary in caps, we’re the hateful ones and you’re just fine. Your President’s entire political career is based on his hatred of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and immigrants.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:41:36am

re: #454 CarolJ

Curiously (perhaps not so curiously), a bunch of red states voted to expand Medicaid and health coverage to people. The GOP/Trump extremist talk of socialism didn’t hold up to scrutiny by voters, or they don’t think Medicaid/Medicare are socialism.

Also, Maine is on track to expand Medicaid coverage, which Trump twit LePage has thwarted for several years now.

That means another four states are likely to jump into Medicaid expansion to give health coverage to millions of Americans.

This is what the GOP has blocked for years, including with the ACA lawsuit that went to the Supreme Court. They denied and delayed coverage for years, and we’re seeing how the GOP messaging fell flat.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:41:39am

re: #570 HappyWarrior

There’s a reason why Mueller is someone who until the R machine started attacking him because Trump was someone genuinely respecetd across the aisle. Mueller is a throwback to public servants of my grandfather’s generation who served not party but country. Him and I imagine have some very different views on law and order but I know that Bob Mueller believes in what this country stands for 100%.

yes, and that’s scaring them worse

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ipsos  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:41:50am

re: #569 KGxvi

Angela Green, the Arizona Green Party nominee dropped out of the Senate race weeks ago, and endorsed Sinema… yet more than 38,000 people still voted for her. McSally is winning by less than 16,000 votes.

I can’t keep emphasizing this enough… local media in AZ are reporting there may be hundreds of thousands of votes from Maricopa and Pima counties (Phoenix and Tucson) yet to be counted. They won’t be counted today at all.

Way, WAY too soon to know whether the Green votes threw the election there or not.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:42:03am

re: #576 jaunte

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I’m really looking forward to some checks on the Trump crime family corruption.

Add Ivanka to those who should have a talk with the Honorable Rep Cummings or Waters.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:42:34am

re: #581 dangerman

yes, and that’s scaring them worse

Mueller is the man who Trump supporters think Trump is. Trump is the man who Trump supporters think liberals are.

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ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:43:15am

re: #463 Belafon

Chrome is just pointing out sites that aren’t https.

You know, I hadn’t thought about it, but I need to check to see if Google or any of their many companies sells SSLs.

It sure creates a market for sites that do not need SSL licenses because they are just static sites, or like here, the only time you need it is when logging in for password protection.

Just more ‘fear’ marketing.

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ipsos  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:43:29am

re: #565 Anymouse 🌹

Counting proceeds again in Montana … with 73% of the vote counted, John Tester has moved ahead by about a thousand votes.

mtelectionresults.gov

Very, VERY important to note that the big chunks of votes still outstanding seem to be from Missoula and Bozeman (Gallatin County), the very blue college towns.

I will be extremely surprised if Tester doesn’t end up winning.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:43:44am

re: #573 ObserverArt

Investigating and actually making the facts of the investigation public will most likely cause moderate Republicans to turn on Big Donny. As you said, he isn’t going to gain in popularity, but he sure can gain more detractors.

Trump now has less cover. It is going to cost him.

What’s a moderate republican?

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:45:04am

re: #587 MsJ

What’s a moderate republican?

Apparently the governor of MA.

Like all endangered species, when your down to just one, the species is doomed.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:45:18am

re: #547 Belafon

Maxine Waters, et al, will take all of that under advisement.

Oh, I want them to go full throttle and show what actual oversight looks like. It’s just frustrating that once again, it is likely that the media will dance to the GOP tune about America being fatigued with investigations…

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:45:29am

re: #582 ipsos

I can’t keep emphasizing this enough… local media in AZ are reporting there may be hundreds of thousands of votes from Maricopa and Pima counties (Phoenix and Tucson) yet to be counted. They won’t be counted today at all.

Way, WAY too soon to know whether the Green votes threw the election there or not.

I did notice that the election hadn’t been called yet, and was wondering why. Both of those counties should be good for Simena. But it just amazes me when a third party nominee drops out and endorses a major party candidate, they still get a statistically significant vote.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:45:48am

re: #573 ObserverArt

Investigating and actually making the facts of the investigation public will most likely cause moderate Republicans to turn on Big Donny. As you said, he isn’t going to gain in popularity, but he sure can gain more detractors.

Trump now has less cover. It is going to cost him.

- i’d say yes, as long as they focus more on the campaign and 2016 election and process.
- while he likely broke lots of laws his whole life, - and i want to see him called out and prosecuted for all of it - a lot of his electorate would likely say - that’s way in the past and so i dont care

- it’s gonna be much harder to wave away ‘illegitimacy’ if actual collusion/conspiracy/whatever the term is and fingers on the scale of the election process itself are proven

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:45:52am

re: #577 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I know that logically it makes sense given the way things are but it drives me nuts to hear that Pelosi says, again, impeachment is off the table per a raw story report…Link

Right now there have been no congressional oversight investigations and Mueller is still doing his thing.

Trying for impeachment now is insane. This would guarantee a trouncing in 2020.

I completely agree with her. For now.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:46:21am

re: #588 freetoken

Apparently the governor of MA.

Like all endangered species, when your down to just one, the species is doomed.

Massachuetts and Maryland, so there’s two left in the wild.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:46:46am

re: #588 freetoken

Apparently the governor of MA.

Like all endangered species, when your down to just one, the species is doomed.

Hogan in MD too but let’s be honest. Those two aren’t going anywhere after this. GOP primary voters will give them the same treatment they gave Huntsman and Pre-Trump sucking up Graham in 2012 and 2016.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:47:20am

“It disturbs me to my core’: Fox News staffers express outrage over Hannity’s rally appearance
“Yes, we work in a house of ill repute but we are shocked; shocked, I say; at this public display of promiscuity.”

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plansbandc  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:47:43am

re: #578 jaunte

PORKUS??!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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Interesting Times  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:47:44am

re: #592 MsJ

Right now there have been no congressional oversight investigations and Mueller is still doing his thing.

Trying for impeachment now is insane. This would guarantee a trouncing in 2020.

I completely agree with her. For now.

Also, it’s a non-starter in the Senate anyway - let the investigations reveal as much devastating info as possible until the public itself clamors for impeachment/resignation/whatever.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:47:46am

re: #577 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I know that logically it makes sense given the way things are but it drives me nuts to hear that Pelosi says, again, impeachment is off the table per a raw story report…Link

it’s a lot like election night horse racing, a meaningless statement out of any context

unless and until mueller’s report comes out, there’s no basis to make any claim

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makeitstop  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:47:48am

re: #592 MsJ

Right now there have been no congressional oversight investigations and Mueller is still doing his thing.

Trying for impeachment now is insane. This would guarantee a trouncing in 2020.

I completely agree with her. For now.

Agree. It would make no sense to push impeachment unless there was overwhelmingly damning evidence. Pelosi is making the right call here.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:48:08am

re: #569 KGxvi

Angela Green, the Arizona Green Party nominee dropped out of the Senate race weeks ago, and endorsed Sinema… yet more than 38,000 people still voted for her. McSally is winning by less than 16,000 votes.

I only saw the report that she dropped out within the last 7-10 days or so.

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Alephnaught  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:48:17am

Someone mentioned Jon Tester earlier:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:48:30am

re: #593 KGxvi

Massachuetts and Maryland, so there’s two left in the wild.

Hogan actually ran a pretty positive campaign too. When he went after Jealous, it was pointing out that a lot of MD Dems found him too extreme apparently.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:48:43am

re: #588 freetoken

Apparently the governor of MA.

Like all endangered species, when your down to just one, the species is doomed.

I saw a bunch of his commercials. I wouldn’t believe a republican if my life depended on it (which it could if I used American healthcare). Fuck that guy. Let the party die already.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:48:54am

re: #595 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“It disturbs me to my core’: Fox News staffers express outrage over Hannity’s rally appearance
“Yes, we work in a house of ill repute but we are shocked; shocked, I say; at this public display of promiscuity.”

Casablanca gambling? I’m shocked!

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:49:17am

re: #595 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“It disturbs me to my core’: Fox News staffers express outrage over Hannity’s rally appearance
“Yes, we work in a house of ill repute but we are shocked; shocked, I say; at this public display of promiscuity.”

The same network which breathlessly promoted the so-called 9/12 anti-tax protest in Washington? Sure they’re disturbed, but not in the way portrayed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:49:24am

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
*cough,cough*

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:49:39am

re: #600 Mike Lamb

I only saw the report that she dropped out within the last 7-10 days or so.

The Trump Administration warps space time, we know this.

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nines09  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:50:42am

Since Trump was “elected” I frankly went into rage control. My life was affected. I saw the massive damages being done and attempted. Friends and neighbors who voted and laughed when Trump was elected made me disgusted, and very angry. I tore up a few relationships. Had my fill.
Last night was a win. A BIG win. Now the Democrats can push back.
This isn’t over, and I expect it to get crazier. But now investigations can commence. And in my state of Pennsylvania I think we finally have seen the last of Lou Barletta and Scott Wagner. We did not win the south, or unseat Steve King. But the Democrats made huge inroads in the smaller local elections where they had failed for years. I feel a bit better today, but I already see the “liberal media” pulling their shit.
“I see the Democrats won, but if they exert any power…….blah blah”
Bullshit. Roll on and shine light.

And Breathe.
And fuck the GOP

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:50:59am

re: #600 Mike Lamb

I only saw the report that she dropped out within the last 7-10 days or so.

Long after early voting started. That was so frustrating to read. Doing* the right thing…by half.

*corrected

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:51:19am

re: #603 MsJ

I saw a bunch of his commercials. I wouldn’t believe a republican if my life depended on it (which it could if I used American healthcare). Fuck that guy. Let the party die already.

I totally hear ya. I would have voted for Jealous if I were across the river but there’s this odd tendency New Englanders have even though they have tons of Dems on the Federal level and new go to the GOP for President to give Republican governors a shot. See Romney and Romney’s predecessor and now successor in Massachusetts. O’Malley’s predecessor was a Republican too in MD but I think Ehrlich benefited from 2002 being a very Republican year and I’m sad to say as a fan of the Kennedy family, RFK’s daughter Kathleen did not run a good campaign taht year.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:51:29am
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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:51:45am

re: #601 Alephnaught

Someone mentioned Jon Tester earlier:

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there are more registered voters in broward county florida than voted in montana

i know there are dozens of this type of comparison….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:52:30am

re: #608 nines09

Since Trump was “elected” I frankly went into rage control. My life was affected. I saw the massive damages being done and attempted. Friends and neighbors who voted and laughed when Trump was elected made me disgusted, and very angry. I tore up a few relationships. Had my fill.
Last night was a win. A BIG win. Now the Democrats can push back.
This isn’t over, and I expect it to get crazier. But now investigations can commence. And in my state of Pennsylvania I think we finally have seen the last of Lou Barletta and Scott Wagner. We did not win the south, or unseat Steve King. But the Democrats made huge inroads in the smaller local elections where they had failed for years. I feel a bit better today, but I already see the “liberal media” pulling their shit.
“I see the Democrats won, but if they exert any power…….blah blah”
Bullshit. Roll on and shine light.

And Breathe.
And fuck the GOP

I’ve seen your Governor Wolf mentioned as a dark horse candidate. Mind telling us some of his strengths and weaknesses, neat things, etc.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:52:43am

re: #606 Blind Frog Belly White

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!
*cough,cough*

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Dems also flipped Issa’s old district. The other two Orange County districts look like they’re staying in Republican hands, but they were very close.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:52:44am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

@mcopelov
Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)

Senate seats: Republicans +3

12:31 AM - Nov 7, 2018
9,237
7,694 people are talking about this

Courtesy of our Constitution. A serious flaw that may be the death of us.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:54:12am

re: #343 Decatur Deb

It will probably take quite a while to sort out, but there seems to be a hidden blue tide at the statehouse level, nation-wide.

A major push should be getting rid of voter suppression in all its forms:
Nonpartisan districting
ameliorating voter ID bullshit
automatic voter registration
Being able to vote after serving your time
proposing standards for good election board practice, well established and publicly available procedures, including backup, electronic security

Maybe Tom Steyer could put his money on doing that.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:54:47am

I love happy endings.

President KKKraKKKer JerKKK’s worst nightmare is coming to get him!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:54:57am

re: #612 dangerman

there are more registered voters in broward county florida than voted in montana

i know there are dozens of this type of comparison….

And that’s why even though those tweets about the Dems winning more votes for the Senate annoy one of my friends, there is some truth to them. The Republicans benefit immensely from there being several small states. The Senate isn’t an equalizer like it was when our populations were more closer just like the House isn’t when the Republicans can get more members out of a state’s delegation even though the state may be more Democratic than it is not. Congress as it was constructed was designed to favor rural and sparsely populated areas. This country isn’t that and it hasn’t for a long time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:55:02am

re: #495 Dr. Matt

It’s hard to believe that a state that voted for Obama twice continues to vote Nazi.

No, they are voting Netanyahu. If Bibi loved Democrats, certain voters would switch on a dime and the results would be very different.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:56:11am

re: #619 Hecuba’s daughter

No, they are voting Netanyahu. If Bibi loved Democrats, certain voters would switch on a dime and the results would be very different.

Are you talking about Jewish voters because Jewish voters were firmly in the Dem camp as they’ve always been. Bibi’s influence isn’t why Florida goes GOP.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:56:42am

Democrats should hammer Trump on the squandering of our soft power and tariff idiocy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:57:07am

In fact from what I saw in the exit polling data, self described Jewish voters were more Democratic than Hispanic ones. Granted there is actually some overlap there since there is in fact Jewish Hispanics.

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:58:36am

re: #621 BlueSpotinAL

Democrats should hammer Trump on the squandering of our soft power and tariff idiocy.

The House should remind Trump and Senate that the Congress has the power on tariffs as per the Constitution.

You know, Article I, Section 8… the part that the GOP ignores because Trump is head GOPer.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:58:57am

re: #617 Joe Bacon 🌹

I love happy endings.

President KKKraKKKer JerKKK’s worst nightmare is coming to get him!

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It is a matter of faith among MAGA-hats that Maxine Waters is “an idiot” (yes I heard this, and also in the same bunch saying about Kavanaugh “now we will get what we voted for Trump for”). They are about to find out different.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:59:02am

re: #615 Hecuba’s daughter

@mcopelov
Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)

Senate seats: Republicans +3

12:31 AM - Nov 7, 2018
9,237
7,694 people are talking about this

Courtesy of our Constitution. A serious flaw that may be the death of us.

In fairness, six million of those Democratic votes were cast in California where there were two Democrats on the ballot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:59:04am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:59:40am

Also while Rauner isn’t hardcore GOP. I was glad to see him lose in Illinois as well. Because fuck that guy for cutting autism research funding in autism awareness month.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:00:20am

re: #626 Anymouse 🌹

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So does James Dobson and Need to Focus on your own motherfucking Family before judging others.

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Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:00:47am

re: #593 KGxvi

Massachuetts and Maryland, so there’s two left in the wild.

Dunno about Massachusetts, but in Maryland, Hogan is considered to be doing a good job and so won over many in the state easily despite being in a seriously-deep blue region.
That said, his bipartisan immunity certainly didn’t help other Reps one bit in the state, where it seems that at least 3 prominent executive races and eight general assembly seats were won yesterday by Democrats.

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Ferdinand  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:01:43am

The President finally showed up for the press conference after having the reporters sit there for 30 minutes. He’s droning from written remarks. Looks exhausted. Good!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:03:48am

re: #629 Archangelus

Dunno about Massachusetts, but in Maryland, Hogan is considered to be doing a good job and so won over many in the state easily despite being in a seriously-deep blue region.
That said, his bipartisan immunity certainly didn’t help other Reps one bit in the state, where it seems that at least 3 prominent executive races and eight general assembly seats were won yesterday by Democrats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:04:18am

re: #627 HappyWarrior

Also while Rauner isn’t hardcore GOP. I was glad to see him lose in Illinois as well. Because fuck that guy for cutting autism research funding in autism awareness month.

He was the guy in charge who wouldn’t sign a budget and even caused the state lottery to go broke and unable to make prize payouts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:04:22am
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nines09  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:04:35am

re: #613 HappyWarrior

He undid a lot of what former gov Corbett did. To give you an insight on why I’m nuts, where I live Scott Wagner had TWICE the votes that Tom Wolf did. Wagner and Barletta are about as disgusting a pair of failed humanity as you can get.
This is the contrast between them.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:05:00am

Do we know yet whether Georgia is having a run off?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:05:30am

re: #632 Anymouse 🌹

He was the guy in charge who wouldn’t sign a budget and even caused the state lottery to go broke and unable to make prize payouts.

Yep but the ASD stuff stood out to me being ya know on the spectrum. Plus I know there’s a great many Land of Lincoln lizards who hated that prick.

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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:05:49am

I would like to point out that the Jefferson County (AL) sheriff race went to an African-American Democrat, winning over a guy from the family that has had a member be sheriff 55 of the last 60 years! The Republican was not a “bad” sheriff, had no strong negatives.
The other guy just beat him. This probably would not have happened without the renewed energy in the Democratic Party in the area (courtesy of the Republicans having an awful nominee in Roy Moore and and awful president in Trump).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:06:11am

re: #634 nines09

He undid a lot of what former gov Corbett did. To give you an insight on why I’m nuts, where I live Scott Wagner had TWICE the votes that Tom Wolf did. Wagner and Barletta are about as disgusting a pair of failed humanity as you can get.
This is the contrast between them.

Thanks. And I defintely know Barletta since he’s notorious for his anti-immigration stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:07:09am

re: #637 BlueSpotinAL

I would like to point out that the Jefferson County (AL) sheriff race went to an African-American Democrat, winning over a guy from the family that has had a member be sheriff 55 of the last 60 years! The Republican was not a “bad” sheriff, had no strong negatives.
The other guy just beat him. This probably would not have happened without the renewed energy in the Democratic Party in the area (courtesy of the Republicans having an awful nominee in Roy Moore and and awful president in Trump).

Glad to see even little bits of good news even in bright red Alabama. Hope Doug is in it for the longhaul. As disgusting as Moore was, Doug Jones is equally admirable.

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Ferdinand  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:07:45am

He’s whinging about all the reasons they lost and trying to spin it all as a win. “We won the big ones.” “I only lost 27 seats. Obama lost almost 60 in 2010!” Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS. Weird performance.

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ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:08:49am

re: #591 dangerman

- i’d say yes, as long as they focus more on the campaign and 2016 election and process.
- while he likely broke lots of laws his whole life, - and i want to see him called out and prosecuted for all of it - a lot of his electorate would likely say - that’s way in the past and so i dont care

- it’s gonna be much harder to wave away ‘illegitimacy’ if actual collusion/conspiracy/whatever the term is and fingers on the scale of the election process itself are proven

It may never be conclusive.

I am talking about the damage it will do to him and his image.

That is politics.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:09:10am

re: #640 Ferdinand

He’s whinging about all the reasons they lost and trying to spin it all as a win. “We won the big ones.” “I only lost 27 seats. Obama lost almost 60 in 2010!” Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS. Weird performance.

Obama also got over 50% of the vote twice which is something you will never do and Barack Obama is admried throughout the world not just by racist assholes in fugly red hats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:09:11am

Zizzi Italian restaurant reopened today in Salisbury after the Skripal poisoning to a very large crowd.

kneb.com

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Ferdinand  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:09:41am

Ok I gotta mute the fool until the questions start.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:09:59am

Oh, according to ABC’s website Mia Love is losing in Utah.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:10:59am

re: #615 Hecuba’s daughter

@mcopelov
Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)

Senate seats: Republicans +3

12:31 AM - Nov 7, 2018
9,237
7,694 people are talking about this

Courtesy of our Constitution. A serious flaw that may be the death of us.

If not for the 17 Amendment the Senate composition might be much worse

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:11:12am

re: #645 KGxvi

Oh, according to ABC’s website Mia Love is losing in Utah.

Yeah I saw that this morning. Good riddance to her. Another fuck you I got mine minority conservative in the mold of Cruz, Rubio, and Jindal. Nothing wrong with being a minority and being conservative mind you but when you benefit from birthright citizenship laws and then say nothing as Trump trashes them, you’re a fucker to me.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:11:33am

re: #646 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If not for the 17 Amendment the Senate composition might be much worse

There’s a reason why conservatives want to repeal it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:11:55am

re: #640 Ferdinand

Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS.

It’s a little of both. He knows he’s in deep shit now and as a result, his sales pitch is suffering.

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MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:12:29am
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TedStriker  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:13:11am

re: #637 BlueSpotinAL

I would like to point out that the Jefferson County (AL) sheriff race went to an African-American Democrat, winning over a guy from the family that has had a member be sheriff 55 of the last 60 years! The Republican was not a “bad” sheriff, had no strong negatives.
The other guy just beat him. This probably would not have happened without the renewed energy in the Democratic Party in the area (courtesy of the Republicans having an awful nominee in Roy Moore and and awful president in Trump).

Robin Hood: Men in Tights, Black Sheriff

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makeitstop  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:13:12am

re: #640 Ferdinand

He’s whinging about all the reasons they lost and trying to spin it all as a win. “We won the big ones.” “I only lost 27 seats. Obama lost almost 60 in 2010!” Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS. Weird performance.

You know the fear level has gone up in the White House.

This son of a bitch has run unchecked for two years. It may be slowly sinking in that he’s not going to be able to do that for the remainder of his term.

God damn right he’s scared. He should be.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:13:23am

re: #650 MsJ

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I want to say that Bachmann’s district got flipped too. But maybe I’m wrong. Any Minnesota lizards or people less lazy than me want to verify?

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:13:43am

re: #640 Ferdinand

He’s whinging about all the reasons they lost and trying to spin it all as a win. “We won the big ones.” “I only lost 27 seats. Obama lost almost 60 in 2010!” Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS. Weird performance.

the world was different in 2010 -

from

re: #384 dangerman above

in November 2018, Trump is less popular at 3.7 percent unemployment than Obama was in November 2010, when unemployment was 9.8 percent. That’s a tremendous political failure, and it should be seen as such.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:14:07am

re: #641 ObserverArt

It may never be conclusive.

I am talking about the damage it will do to him and his image.

That is politics.

indeed

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:14:25am

re: #651 TedStriker

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Video

It did work in Blazing Saddles. Believe that was one of Chappelle’s first roles too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:15:25am

re: #654 dangerman

the world was different in 2010 -

from

above

I’m glad the economy isn’t shit but I also wish white voters would realize that the economy doing what it is has nothing ot do with Trump who clearly has benefited from Obama’s policies.

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KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:15:44am

re: #646 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If not for the 17 Amendment the Senate composition might be much worse

Funny thing is, by 1912, 33 of 46 states were using elections of some sort to choose Senators.

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CongoJack  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:15:50am

re: #656 HappyWarrior

It did work in Blazing Saddles. Believe that was one of Chappelle’s first roles too.

It was… and its in my top 10 of all time favorite movies. I remember my parents watching it with me when I was younger - a cult classic!

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TedStriker  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:16:34am

re: #656 HappyWarrior

It did work in Blazing Saddles. Believe that was one of Chappelle’s first roles too.

Yeah, that was right before Half-Baked, IIRC.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:16:38am

re: #652 makeitstop

You know the fear level has gone up in the White House.

This son of a bitch has run unchecked for two years. It may be slowly sinking in that he’s not going to be able to do that for the remainder of his term.

God damn right he’s scared. He should be.

there’s 218 (or so) new sheriffs in town

(yes i know they arent all new. work with me…)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:16:46am

re: #640 Ferdinand

He’s whinging about all the reasons they lost and trying to spin it all as a win. “We won the big ones.” “I only lost 27 seats. Obama lost almost 60 in 2010!” Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS. Weird performance.

Has any President—ever—immediately jumped out with a news conference expressing his approval or disapproval of the outcome of a Congressional election? This shit is not normal, people!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:16:58am

And just in time for the Christmas shopping season, Sears gets totally fucked.

Stanley Black and Decker, Inc. (the owner of Craftsman) has filed for reclamation of goods from Sears.

restructuring.primeclerk.com

Click on the first docket, #479 - it’s in .pdf.

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freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:17:24am

Computer crashed right when I had written up a lengthy reply… hate that.

Anyway, yes, the Dems need to open investigations soon.

1) Emolument clause violations;
2) Family separation policy.

Both those fall outside of Mueller’s investigation.

665
HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:17:41am

re: #659 CongoJack

It was… and its in my top 10 of all time favorite movies. I remember my parents watching it with me when I was younger - a cult classic!

We have three generations of Mel fans in our family. My father’s father loved the 2000 year old man sketch with Mel and Carl Reiner. I can remember my Dad singing songs from The Producers as a kid. And I love all his movies especially that one. I’m hoping that maybe when my niece gets older I can introduce her too. She likes halloween so maybe I’ll use Young Frankenstein since Blazing Saddles is a little more complicated in its humor.

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Ferdinand  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:17:42am

Trump: “It is time to put partisanship aside.” Too late motherfracker. Questions now.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:17:55am

re: #657 HappyWarrior

I’m glad the economy isn’t shit but I also wish white voters would realize that the economy doing what it is has nothing ot do with Trump who clearly has benefited from Obama’s policies.

please dont no one take this the wrong way ….:

‘non-college educated’

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:18:48am

re: #656 HappyWarrior

It did work in Blazing Saddles. Believe that was one of Chappelle’s first roles too.

Cleavon Little.

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CongoJack  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:18:54am

re: #660 TedStriker

Yeah, that was right before Half-Baked, IIRC.

Half Baked was 5 years later. Dave was 20 when Men in Tights came out

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lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:28am

Real fun thread.

All of the following Trump backed candidates… and how they fared last night.

Trump endorsements didn’t carry the day.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:28am

re: #640 Ferdinand

He’s whinging about all the reasons they lost and trying to spin it all as a win. “We won the big ones.” “I only lost 27 seats. Obama lost almost 60 in 2010!” Still swallowing the end of his sentences. Bastard actually seems sad or scared or not believing his own BS. Weird performance.

Can you imagine the level of boasting he and his media cheerleaders would be doing had the GOP held onto the House?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:32am

re: #660 TedStriker

Yeah, that was right before Half-Baked, IIRC.

I think Blazing Saddles was 92 and Half Baked was 98. The first time I saw Dave was in the Eddie Murphy Nutty Professor remake. He was the stand up comic that mocked Professor Clump. Tehn I saw him in Con Air. He was a supporting character in both but hilarious. He’s my favorite comic. Intelligent, humble, and very insightful. I loved his show in the early 00’s. Some of the best sketch comedy I’ve ever seen.Key and Peele wouldn’t have been what they were without Dave IMO and I love K&P too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:50am

re: #667 dangerman

please dont no one take this the wrong way ….:

‘non-college educated’

You ain’t wrong about that.

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Ferdinand  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:52am

First question is on subpoenas. First answer “Then we’ll do the same to them” He’s scared. Tries to go back to the bipartisan schtick his handlers must have drilled into him. It isn’t working. He’s on to the Wall.

675
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:20:15am

re: #629 Archangelus

I have serious problems with the way Hogan is dealing with public transportation issues and I voted for Jealous. But, MD is solid blue and, in general, Hogan isn’t horrible. We’ll survive.

676
HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:20:46am

re: #668 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cleavon Little.

No I know Cleavon was Bart. Dave was Achoo.

677
Mike Lamb  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:20:50am

re: #615 Hecuba’s daughter

@mcopelov
Senate popular vote:
Democrats: 40,558,262 (55.4%)
Republicans: 31,490,026 votes (43.0%)

Senate seats: Republicans +3

12:31 AM - Nov 7, 2018
9,237
7,694 people are talking about this

Courtesy of our Constitution. A serious flaw that may be the death of us.

Yup, the Senate is just going to get more and more un-democratic.

678
ObserverArt  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:21:07am

re: #662 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Has any President—ever—immediately jumped out with a news conference expressing his approval or disapproval of the outcome of a Congressional election? This shit is not normal, people!

Remember, his book author, Tony Schwartz, who is often on MSNBC with Ari, says Trump believes he can talk his way in our out of anything depending what direction he needs to go.

This is him being Trump. He doesn’t realize he is in a public office and others have more ‘say’ in his direction than he does.

Last night the people did the talking. Trump of course will not listen and that will be his downfall.

679
dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:21:18am

re: #666 Ferdinand

Trump: “It is time to put partisanship aside.” Too late motherfracker. Questions now.

since i no longer control both houses of congress….It is time to put partisanship aside.

680
Sir John Barron  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:21:24am

re: #674 Ferdinand

First question is on subpoenas. First answer “Then we’ll do the same to them” He’s scared. Tries to go back to the bipartisan schtick his handlers must have drilled into him. It isn’t working. He’s on to the Wall.

“Leaks are terrible, should be punished, except Wikileaks, we love Wikileaks, hey Russia if you’re listening can you hack and leak Hillary’s emails…leaks are bad wrong we will find out bad…I love Wikileaks….”

681
HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:21:54am

re: #675 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I have serious problems with the way Hogan is dealing with public transportation issues and I voted for Jealous. But, MD is solid blue and, in general, Hogan isn’t horrible. We’ll survive.

I really like your Senator Van Hollen. My and get ready for this twister- sister in law’s sister’s husband had really nice things to say about Jamie Raskin.

682
Ferdinand  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:22:54am

Tax returns question! Right after he says he is an open book. He’s stalling. “No one will understand them.”

683
KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:07am

re: #664 freetoken

Computer crashed right when I had written up a lengthy reply… hate that.

Anyway, yes, the Dems need to open investigations soon.

1) Emolument clause violations;
2) Family separation policy.

Both those fall outside of Mueller’s investigation.

I’ll add: regular use of an unsecured phone; EPA and Department of Interior spending scandals; his national security justifications for tariffs; dealings with Saudi Arabia; Ivanka’s new Chinese trademarks; Kushner’s security clearance; and, I’ll add, they should be doing their own investigation on Russian collusion.

684
MsJ  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:13am

re: #679 dangerman

since i no longer control both houses of congress….It is time to put partisanship aside.

Let’s ask the orange fucker if he now represents Democrats…because he has said he doesn’t.

685
dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:22am

re: #673 HappyWarrior

You ain’t wrong about that.

im using it as an indicator, not a paintbrush

;-)

686
freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:24am

Someone was able to mangle together my lottery fascination with the election:

687
lawhawk  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:45am
688
Archangelus  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:47am

re: #640 Ferdinand

Bastard actually seems sad or AND scared or AND not believing his own BS.

Corrected for greater accuracy. /

689
freetoken  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:24:16am

re: #683 KGxvi

Since Mueller may have Trump’s phones tapped, I think it best to steer clear of that kind of stuff for now.

690
dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:24:20am

re: #674 Ferdinand

First question is on subpoenas. First answer “Then we’ll do the same to them” He’s scared. Tries to go back to the bipartisan schtick his handlers must have drilled into him. It isn’t working. He’s on to the Wall.

- who is “them”?
- and how you gonna “subpoena” them?

691
KGxvi  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:05am

re: #674 Ferdinand

First question is on subpoenas. First answer “Then we’ll do the same to them” He’s scared. Tries to go back to the bipartisan schtick his handlers must have drilled into him. It isn’t working. He’s on to the Wall.

you can’t subpoena me, we’ll subpoena you!

So, you’re admitting you’ll use the Department of Justice to attack members of Congress?

692
HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:08am

I really like Patton Oswalt as well. He’s funny but he seems like a great guy too. I felt so bad for him when his wife died. Poor guy and they had young children too. Plus Patton went to high school with my cousins and my brother swears he saw him at our gym. And it seems valid to me since apparently Patton still visits his hometown here in the DC burbs. One of my other cousins has a less fortunate high school classmate, NRO’s Rich Lowry. I don’t know if she knew him or not though. She definitely had some stories about the Georgetown Prep boys though that she told us while Kavanaugh’s eharings were going on.

693
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:28am

re: #676 HappyWarrior

No I know Cleavon was Bart. Dave was Achoo.

Oh, I misunderstood the discussion I guess. I thought you were talking about Blazing Saddles. I barely remember anything about Men in Tights. I do remember the derivative TV show When Things Were Rotten was one of the worst shows in the history of television….

694
dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:39am

re: #682 Ferdinand

Tax returns question! Right after he says he is an open book. He’s stalling. “No one will understand them.”

—-raises hand—-

wanna bet?

695
Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:52am
696
HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:26:37am

re: #693 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, I misunderstood the discussion I guess. I thought you were talking about Blazing Saddles. I barely remember anything about Men in Tights. I do remember the derivative TV show When Things Were Rotten was one of the worst shows in the history of television….

In the Men in Tights clip, they referenced BS. BS is the better movie but Men in Tights was still solid.

697
Jay C  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:26:50am

re: #662 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Has any President—ever—immediately jumped out with a news conference expressing his approval or disapproval of the outcome of a Congressional election? This shit President is not normal, people!

698
TedStriker  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:28:10am

re: #696 HappyWarrior

In the Men in Tights clip, they referenced BS. BS is the better movie but Men in Tights was still solid.

Robin hood Men in Tights - I speak with an English Accent

699
Mike Lamb  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:28:16am

re: #670 lawhawk

Real fun thread.

All of the following Trump backed candidates… and how they fared last night.

Trump endorsements didn’t carry the day.

[Embedded content]

The only ones he can reasonably make a claim to boosting are Scott, DeSantis, Kemp, and DeWine.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:29:19am

re: #698 TedStriker

[Embedded content]

Video

Kevin Costner burn. You know, it’s too bad because I actually like more of Costner’s projects than I don’t but his acting leaves a lot to be desired.

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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:31:37am

re: #699 Mike Lamb

The only ones he can reasonably make a claim to boosting are Scott, DeSantis, Kemp, and DeWine.

as i said above, not sure about scott and desantis
the margins are razor thin

what if he drove more people towards the d’s and they won by a smaller margin than if he never showed up?

702
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:41:30am

re: #701 dangerman

as i said above, not sure about scott and desantis
the margins are razor thin

what if he drove more people towards the d’s and they won by a smaller margin than if he never showed up?

We can’t be sure about Kemp, either—there could be a runoff.

703
Teukka  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:56:29am

re: #663 Dr Lizardo

And just in time for the Christmas shopping season, Sears gets totally fucked.

Stanley Black and Decker, Inc. (the owner of Craftsman) has filed for reclamation of goods from Sears.

restructuring.primeclerk.com

Click on the first docket, #479 - it’s in .pdf.

1400+ pp? Oi.

704
makeitstop  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:42:29am

re: #683 KGxvi

I’ll add: regular use of an unsecured phone; EPA and Department of Interior spending scandals; his national security justifications for tariffs; dealings with Saudi Arabia; Ivanka’s new Chinese trademarks; Kushner’s security clearance; and, I’ll add, they should be doing their own investigation on Russian collusion.

There’s a long list of people that Schiff wanted to subpoena, but Nunes blew him off.

Unfinished business. Enforce those subpoenas.

705
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:53:50am

re: #668 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Cleavon Little.

yep…Chappelle was only about 6 months old when Blazing Saddles was released.


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