Acoustic Excellence: Hozier’s “From Eden” Refactored by Grayson Erhard

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I chose to cover Hozier’s “From Eden” because you all voted! I’ve always loved Hozier’s voice and songwriting and felt like my style would lend itself well to one of his songs. To vote for the next cover, contribute to my Patreon account: patreon.com

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511 comments

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:39:35pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:41:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:41:37pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:42:05pm
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jaunte  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:44:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:45:12pm

re: #5 jaunte

JFC the Trump cult is sick.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:45:46pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

Love those dudes.

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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:46:03pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:47:37pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:48:41pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

“Kielbasa” always ends up in my setlist when I play open mics.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:48:42pm
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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:50:03pm
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austin_blue  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:50:04pm

The entire Press Corps should not show up tomorrow. Just not be there. This is a bright line.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:50:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:51:09pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

It’s typical. It’s how people who benefit immensely from government talk about how much they hate big government. Sick of this shit. It’s not going to change and it’s why I welcome demographic changes.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:52:24pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:53:07pm

re: #13 austin_blue

The entire Press Corps should not show up tomorrow. Just not be there. This is a bright line.

They won’t stand together. Ever.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:53:33pm
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austin_blue  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:55:58pm

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

They won’t stand together. Ever.

I don’t know. If two idiots from Fox are are the only people in the room….

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jaunte  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:57:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:57:46pm

re: #19 austin_blue

I don’t know. If two idiots from Fox are are the only people in the room….

You know Breitbart is loving this but would flip their shit if a Dem WH so much called them out for the lying pos’s they are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 7:57:58pm

re: #17 GlutenFreeJesus

They won’t stand together. Ever.

Profit over country.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:02:03pm
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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:02:06pm
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dangerman  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:09:50pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:11:12pm

The free market (a space to trade goods and services where competition improves those products and services and delivers them more effectively to purchasers) only exists because of government regulation.

Prior to that we had names like “gilded age” and “feudalism” to describe the economic systems.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:11:42pm
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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:11:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:13:39pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Yep this isn’t a political movement. It’s a cult and even a lightweight like Trump can see it’s easy to exploit.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:13:56pm
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austin_blue  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:16:07pm

re: #21 HappyWarrior

You know Breitbart is loving this but would flip their shit if a Dem WH so much called them out for the lying pos’s they are.

Of course they would. But they won’t say word about this. He’s not Obama, so it’s open season.

Good night all. Sweet scaly dreams. Off to Alpine for a couple of West Texas gigs this weekend, leaving Friday. A run into Big Bend. Returning Monday.

Tomorrow is Date Night With Jodie at Uchi, our usual Thursday. It’s good to be retired. They pay me me not to go to work.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:18:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:18:42pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

Stalin would love Trump.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:21:55pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

JFC

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:26:30pm
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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:28:15pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:29:15pm

re: #32 teleskiguy

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:30:06pm

re: #37 Anymouse 🌹

Well, that didn’t display correctly, but he was informed the video manipulation originated at InfoWars.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:30:30pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

It’s their own fault. They chose to ignore NoVa by pandering to the socon zealots.

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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:32:51pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:36:29pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Sweet wingnut tears.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:38:39pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

It’s their own fault. They chose to ignore NoVa by pandering to the socon zealots.

Even Virginia Beach went blue. All the time I was stationed there, and afterward I’d never seen that. That’s Rev. Pat Robertson’s stomping grounds. The original home of Blackwater/XE/Academi (named after the Blackwater Borough of Va. Beach). Lots of high-ranked military retirees.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:41:29pm

I’m obsessed with this account. It’s a great, funny read.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:46:54pm

Ya’all, this past year has just been a freaking hot mess. Anxiety and depression off the charts, what can go wrong has. I know I’m not the only one who struggles with this shit. This whole midterm mayhem has put me in a tailspin. I’m glad it’s (mostly) over. We made lots of good inroads. For that I am grateful.

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retired cynic  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:48:22pm

re: #44 A Mom Anon

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:50:22pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

Even Virginia Beach went blue. All the time I was stationed there, and afterward I’d never seen that. That’s Rev. Pat Robertson’s stomping grounds. The original home of Blackwater/XE/Academi (named after the Blackwater Borough of Va. Beach). Lots of high-ranked military retirees.

The retirees are certainly plentiful, but there’s a goodly number of redneck goobers here as well. Folks shouldn’t allow the city centers to fool them, you drive just 10 minutes out of town and you can hear banjo music.

Thing is, local political analysis isn’t blaming Corey Stewart, they’re claiming that Taylor’s loss was self-inflicted. That campaign’s whole little scheme to get a third-party candidate on the ballot by having staffers submit petitions covered in fake signatures blew up in his face the moment those staffers started squealing that the whole thing was his idea.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:50:54pm

re: #40 Kragar

Ms. Haberman still trying to magic balancefairy:

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:50:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:52:15pm

re: #44 A Mom Anon

Ya’all, this past year has just been a freaking hot mess. Anxiety and depression off the charts, what can go wrong has. I know I’m not the only one who struggles with this shit. This whole midterm mayhem has put me in a tailspin. I’m glad it’s (mostly) over. We made lots of good inroads. For that I am grateful.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:52:58pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹

Ms. Haberman still trying to magic balancefairy:

Maggie is not some Trump whisperer, she’s his damned publicist. He could shoot someone on 5th Ave and she’d say that it will help him with Republican voters.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:54:02pm

re: #48 DodgerFan1988

To those who believed Trump’s lies about the phony caravan crisis before the election, why isn’t State Run Media talking about the caravan today?

Because Trump and his media hacks played you for racist fools. And what did you do but swallow the bait whole. 🤔

— Joe Scarborough

Former Republican congressman who gave Trump endless hours on his show to call it in says what?

He only got upset when he was personally affected (when Mika Brzezinski was attacked by Trump)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:54:19pm

re: #44 A Mom Anon

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A Mom Anon  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:57:08pm

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

You’d think that after awhile some general self awareness would creep on in there, but NOPE.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 8:58:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:06:59pm

re: #53 A Mom Anon

You’d think that after awhile some general self awareness would creep on in there, but NOPE.

Just like the Republican Primary, Trump is focusing one by one on each journalist, and they are not calling him out because they are protecting their own turf. This started with Jorge Ramos, then the Des Monies Register, then Univision, &c.

It’s precisely the same strategy as he used to knock off the Republican Clown Car, and its working exactly the same way because the press is behaving the same way.

Scarborough is lamenting this now, but he participated in it.

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uriel  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:08:53pm

Normally, I steer clear of twitter stuff, but even I couldn’t sit back on this one. Just wish I hadn’t screwed up on the hyphen. :(

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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:12:52pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:12:57pm

If the DC Press Corpse had any semblance of a backbone they would have all walked out when Jim Acosta was assaulted.

Every last one of them should have walked out.

All of them ought to turn their backs on Hucky Boo Boo the next time she starts bullshitting.

But they won’t.

They’re bought and paid for.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:15:04pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

If the DC Press Corpse had any semblance of a backbone they would have all walked out when Jim Acosta was assaulted.

Every last one of them should have walked out.

All of them ought to turn their backs on Hucky Boo Boo the next time she starts bullshitting.

But they won’t.

They’re bought and paid for.

About that:

The White House Correspondents’ Association issued a statement condemning what it called the Trump administration’s “decision to use US Secret Service security credentials as a tool to punish a reporter with whom it has a difficult relationship”.

Calling on the White House to reverse this “weak and misguided action”, it added: “Revoking access to the White House complex is a reaction out of line to the purported offense and is unacceptable.

A stern admonishment indeed.

theguardian.com (more)

They are not going to pay any attention at all to this statement.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:16:07pm

What do y’all think of Sen. Klobuchar as a possible candidate in 2020?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:16:20pm

re: #54 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Seinfeld - The Magic Loogie, Reconstructed

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:33pm

Reminding what one of Mr. Johnson’s Refugees from Insane Island had to say about Joe Scarborough some months ago:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:19:42pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Maggie is not some Trump whisperer, she’s his damned publicist. He could shoot someone on 5th Ave and she’d say that it will help him with Republican voters.

And she’d be right, wouldn’t she?

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Aussie Apocalypse  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:20:55pm

re: #56 uriel

I doubt she has any consciousness, of any kind.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:22:04pm
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uriel  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:22:37pm

re: #60 Ace Rothstein

re: #60 Ace Rothstein

What do y’all think of Sen. Klobuchar as a possible candidate in 2020?

Personally? I’m ready to support anyone short of Lyndon Larouche or a pre-64 Strom Thurmond.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:22:58pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

The White House is going to try to squeeze CNN with this. They’ll say in as public a fashion as possible that CNN is certainly welcome to send a journalist to the White House to participate in future press briefings. But Acosta is barred, will be arrested for trespassing if he tries to enter the White House even if on a tour, and the reason is because his behavior was “over the line.”

The rest of the media will hem and haw for a few days, CNN will openly seethe, and the talking heads will express “concern” and possibly even “outrage.” But ultimately CNN will find that it has little support outside of that “concern” and fold, sending a different reporter because the alternative is having no representation in the White House press pool. The cherry on top will be when the new reporter shows up for the first time, they’ll get an oily “welcome” from Huckaboo or Donny himself and the “hope” that they’ll show more “respect” to the president* than their predecessor did, with the unspoken understanding that they’ll follow behind Jim if they so much as burp out of turn.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:23:59pm

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

I think those press briefings should be like the IRA “Troubles” era in the UK, Dubbed but with hand puppets for pizzaz.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:25:38pm

re: #67 Targetpractice

And that is the exact strategy Trump used to win the Republican Primary.

Squeeze one candidate at a time, while the others said nothing in the hopes Trump would flame out and they could get his supporters.

When all that was left was Ted Cruz, he went crazy with everything from slandering his father to attacking his wife.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:29:55pm

Hashtag Jim Acosta is trending with nearly 900,000 tweets.

Like conservatives give a diddly damn about what the ACLU has to say.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:30:53pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

No one is that THICK(maybe on purpose for the griftcoin). Why would an clandestine van use WiFi?

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:31:20pm

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

Why not? The ACLU got right-wing darling Ollie North off the hook back in the day. (I worked an event three years ago that North attended. He’s a total asshole.)

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:31:31pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

OFFS; purely as a gag, my WiFi is called “ECHELON_Post_***”.

Some people really don’t get humor.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:32:20pm

re: #72 Aussie Apocalypse

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

Laura is very dumb.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:32:55pm

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

OFFS; purely as a gag, my WiFi is called “ECHELON_Post_***”.

Some people really don’t get humor.

Echelon Post-emergent Broadleaf Weed Control?

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:34:20pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:35:04pm

And, we wouldn’t find it the least bit surprising if the White House got the the ‘Acosta Film’ from InfoWars, or they both got it from the same source.

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Anymouse 🌹  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:38:02pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

Why not? The ACLU got right-wing darling Ollie North off the hook back in the day. (I worked an event three years ago that North attended. He’s a total asshole.)

And wingers still hate them. They are a “left-wing outfit.”

Well, I am going to go to bed. I think it’s too late for the canvassing board to call me tonight with the recount total.

Catch y’all later.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:43:59pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

Why not? The ACLU got right-wing darling Ollie North off the hook back in the day. (I worked an event three years ago that North attended. He’s a total asshole.)

One thing that always creeped me out about North was that he went through a year of combat in Vietnam, as a platoon commander, real mud and blood stuff, and it didn’t seem to have affected him at all. He was as full of shit as a lieutenant colonel in the 80s as any freshly minted butter-bar. He still is today. The guy is not quite human.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:47:04pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

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Never used WiFi before, Laura? Isn’t there always an “FBI Surveillance Van” showing?

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BeachDem  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:48:24pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:53:26pm

The FBI are such smooth MFers that they don’t even bother with clandestine surveillance, they just operate out in the open like the NKVD. ////////

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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:56:40pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 9:57:48pm

re: #83 Targetpractice

The FBI are such smooth MFers that they don’t even bother with clandestine surveillance, they just operate out in the open like the NKVD. ////////

Ah, the golden age of The Simpsons had fun with this meme, before memes were memes.

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sagehen  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:01:58pm

re: #5 jaunte

So it was preplanned, with the “reaction” tweets ready to go?

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Kragar  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:04:07pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

“The only way to uncover this dastardly plot is apply numerology and then it unlocks the secret code which reveals the FBI is run by lizard people from the far edge of reality and OMG! I JUST SAW A WI-FI NETWORK CALLED FBI SURVEILLANCE! RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!”

These people are fucking morons.

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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:04:34pm

re: #84 Kragar

Better yet, the people presently thinking just interrupting the president* is “over the line” cheered when Major Garrett effectively called Obama a liar on live TV.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:11:01pm

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A Mom Anon  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:12:26pm

re: #87 Kragar

I have FBI Surveillance Van and Pay a Bill as my neighbors,lol.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:16:47pm

re: #89 A Mom Anon

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:17:14pm

re: #89 A Mom Anon

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:19:52pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:25:00pm

re: #93 DodgerFan1988

As I remember it, they not only tolerated it, they accused her of being the assailant. Guess if you get away with it once, you figure they’ll never get you on it.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:27:40pm

Snowpack in Colorado is off to a quite robust start this winter. I hope the faucet stays on.

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Chrysicat  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:30:06pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:31:08pm

re: #90 A Mom Anon

I have FBI Surveillance Van and Pay a Bill as my neighbors,lol.

My favorite local wifi network is The LAN Before Time.

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Jack Burton  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:31:13pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

This joke is so old you could dry it out and fertilize a lawn with it. There’s like 3 of them in my neighborhood.

Is she really that ignorant?

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:34:21pm

re: #98 Jack Burton

Is she really that ignorant?

She’s really that dense and conspiratorial minded. She’s also deathly afraid of Sharia Law overtaking the Constitution or some such shit.

Really. This was tweeted by her *three hours ago.*

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:34:55pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:44:14pm

New nonprofit tied to stealthy circle of dark money groups

Leading the pushback from the outside against President Obama’s attempt to bring the Supreme Court back up to its full complement of nine justices, the Judicial Crisis Network claims to have spent $4 million on a TV, radio and digital campaign attacking nominee Merrick Garland and arguing that the next president should fill the vacancy.

One right-leaning group has weighed in more quietly: The Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust (FACT) has demanded Harvard University release records having to do with Garland’s role in the debate in the early 1970s over whether to allow ROTC recruiters on that campus. In late March, FACT’s executive director, Matthew Whitaker, was quoted saying that “Americans have a right to know about Garland’s views of the military.”

Turns out JCN and FACT have something in common, beyond a penchant for keeping the names of their donors secret: Neil Corkery, who is treasurer of the judicial group and also the treasurer and a member of the board of directors at FACT, a 501(c)(3) organization.

Longtime readers of OpenSecrets Blog or The Daily Beast may remember that Corkery’s wife, Ann, had a big hand in getting JCN off the ground, back in early 2005 when the “C” in its initials stood for “confirmation,” not “crisis.” At the time, Justice Antonin Scalia himself — whose death two months ago precipitated the current battle over the vacancy — attended a small dinner that included JCN organizers and at least one funder.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:45:46pm

I like seeing this. It’s cute! Ripped badass freeskier who came out as gay only after he won a bunch of big competitions like the Olympics (he admits he was very closeted in those days) has a crush on another badass gay politician in Alabama. It’s cute, damn it!

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:47:49pm

Look at this dork.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:56:34pm

I know the shit has been hitting the oscillating air distributor with alarming frequency in the last day or so. I’m still trying to keep it positive.

Hey, here’s a thing! My governor-elect follows me on Twitter!

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 10:58:44pm

In January this will be Colorado’s first family.

Facebook Post

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meteor  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:04:54pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:10:22pm

re: #79 Anymouse 🌹

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:21:30pm

heh

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Chrysicat  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:27:44pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:33:50pm

re: #109 Chrysicat

Years ago, Skippy blocked me after I sent him this:

Petulant. Stupid. Such as Twitter, I guess.

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Chrysicat  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:37:31pm

I just hope this doesn’t get me in Twitter-jail for calling ‘somebody who should have a check mark’ an idiot…

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Chrysicat  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:41:35pm

re: #110 teleskiguy

Years ago, Skippy blocked me after I sent him this:

Petulant. Stupid. Such as Twitter, I guess.

Maybe he’s mellowed. That comment I made, he actually Liked.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:45:13pm

re: #112 Chrysicat

Maybe he’s mellowed. That comment I made, he actually Liked.

Mellowed or not, that was very stupid. And I don’t miss him.

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teleskiguy  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:48:40pm

Here’s another Twitter account I don’t miss at all: @Gus_802. Since I unfollowed him a few weeks before Election Day (I flounced on his TL, he blocked me two weeks later) my TL has been *much better.*

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 7, 2018 • 11:57:30pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:15:54am

There’s always a tweet:

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:29:56am

Since it seems I got C/L’d in the last thread over four hours ago (hey, I am a slacker!), here we go:

re: #674 Anymouse 🌹

The idiot is spelling “You’re” as “your”… give it up, you can’t penetrate stupid. Too many idiots like to show us all what geniuses they are via their misspelling, bad grammar and alternative facts. They aren’t going to listen to you because they already know everything there is to know.

It would be more productive to state your case to a brick.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:33:38am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:37:44am

From The Characters of Theophrastus (4th Century B.C.):

XXVI The Oligarch

(Ὀλιγαρχία)

Oligarchy is a love of power that clings tightly to personal advantage. The oligarch rises in the people’s councils, when assistants to the archon are elected for the management of a fête, and says: “These men must have absolute control.” And although others have suggested ten, he insists that one is enough, but he must be a man. The only line of Homer that stays in his memory is: “A crowd’s rule is bad; let there be one ruler.” He knows no other verse. He is, however, an adept at such phrases as this: “We must hold a caucus and make our plans; we must cut loose from mob and market; we must throw aside the annoyance of petty office and of insult or honor at the masses’ whim; we or they must rule the state.”

At midday he goes out with his mantle thrown about him, his hair dressed in the mode and his nails fashionably trimmed; he promenades down Odeon Way ejaculating: “Sycophants have made the city no longer habitable. What outrages we endure in court from our persecutors! Why men nowadays go into office, is a marvel to me. How ungrateful the mob is! although one is always giving, giving.”

If, at the Assembly, a naked, hungry vagabond sits next to him, he complains of the outrage. “When,” he asks, “is a stop to be put to this ruin of our property by taxation for fêtes and navy? How odious is this crew of demagogues! Theseus,” he says, “was the forefront of all this offending, for out of twelve cities, he brought the masses into one, to overthrow the monarchies. He met his just reward,—he was the first to fall a victim at their hands.” This is the way he talks to foreigners and to citizens of his own temper and party.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:47:52am

re: #114 teleskiguy

Gus does seem to get heavy mood swings.

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Curious Lifeform  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:51:49am

Hello Americans!

After the mid-term results are we feeling happy, sad, or neutral?

I feel like the tide is finally turning.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:52:24am
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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:58:13am

re: #120 Aussie Apocalypse

Gus does seem to get heavy mood swings.

This is true. I’ve known this about him, he was one of my very early follows on Twitter back when I first joined Twitter in 2010. He was?still is? very idiosyncratic, and I liked that. Him and I had a lot of interesting conversations about Colorado.

And then he was indifferent about my suicide ideation.

Fuck him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:58:14am

re: #121 Curious Lifeform

Hello Americans!

After the mid-term results are we feeling happy, sad, or neutral?

I feel like the tide is finally turning.

I was disappointed at first, losing a few really high-profile races, but on the other hand, things are really better than they looked at first blush, particularly on the state levels. If Kansas and maybe Wisconsin are finally getting wise to the disastrous results of the Brownback and Walker experiments (respectively), there may be hope for the future.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:01:54am

re: #121 Curious Lifeform

Hello Americans!

After the mid-term results are we feeling happy, sad, or neutral?

I feel like the tide is finally turning.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:08:17am
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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:08:58am

re: #74 Dr Lizardo

One of my guest networks is named: NSA Node #714

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:17:30am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:20:52am

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:26:06am

The number of people shot in Thousand Oaks has now risen to 11 including a Deputy responding the shots fired call according to the Sheriff.

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Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:26:34am

re: #117 Odie Hugh Manatee

Admittedly, with Twitter in particular, that’s not always out of ignance.

That one looks dangerously close to character count, and since I see no prepositions or written numbers that can be turned into numerals, “You’re—>your” may have been the only change he was capable of making.

He’s still a couple short, but I think that one may be intentional, not ignorant.

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Curious Lifeform  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:27:25am

re: #125 teleskiguy

LOL.

Two years of hell… I cry a little inside when I think about how much good HRC could have done for the world instead in that time.

But I agree with Rev. Battleaxe, while it’s not the landslide I was hoping for, it means the brakes on the madness can now be applied.

Hopefully in another two years you can start reversing the damage.

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Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:30:50am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:37:21am

Shooter is confined to the facility according to CBS news.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:37:21am

re: #126 Single-handed sailor

Fuck, that’s about 10 miles away from my place.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:38:28am

re: #135 goddamnedfrank

Fuck, that’s about 10 miles away from my place.

Which by Southern California standards is pretty much next door.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:40:14am

re: #131 Chrysicat

That’s “ignorance”… ;) Sorry, couldn’t help myself there. If they wanted a truncated form of “you’re”, that’s usually done as “U R”. Hang out at a tech forum that’s packed with libertarian dudebros like Hardforum and read the illustrious geniuses there, just for one fine example. Loose for lose, their for they’re and too many others to list. Toss in poor grammar and sentences constructed like an interrupted thought process and voila!

Conservative genius.

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freetoken  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:42:08am

Did Youtube change their layout again?

For any given channel, I can’t get the videos to be listed vertically, where the description text is next to the snapshot.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:42:36am
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sagehen  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:45:13am

If we’re making predictions, let me be the first to say “a guy with a history of domestic violence.”

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Chrysicat  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:51:15am

Regarding the No One Is Above the Law protests, obviously…

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:52:26am

re: #132 Curious Lifeform

That’s a bottle of Jack Daniel’s in his left hand, BTW.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 1:53:09am

re: #140 sagehen

If we’re making predictions, let me be the first to say “a guy with a history of domestic violence.”

His gf (or imagined gf) was probably there with another guy, and they’re among those shot.

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teleskiguy  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:00:28am

The Blue Wave has come!

Now we gotta get off this damn mountain.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:06:06am

He seems nice.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:08:31am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:11:33am

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

He seems nice.

LOL, it’s a country & western dance bar, the worst kinda dancing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:14:56am

re: #147 Single-handed sailor

LOL, it’s a country & western dance bar, the worst kinda dancing.

Oh, they have both kinds of music? Must be a class establishment, then!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:16:07am

re: #146 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sounds like murder/suicide. Wouldn’t be totally shocked if it was a domestic matter gone straight to hell.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:19:37am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:22:00am

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

Sounds like murder/suicide. Wouldn’t be totally shocked if it was a domestic matter gone straight to hell.

Well, local LEOs thought that Tallahassee yoga studio shooting was a ‘domestic’ at first.
Until they figured out it wasn’t

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:24:01am

re: #151 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, local LEOs thought that Tallahassee yoga studio shooting was a ‘domestic’ at first.
Until they figured out it wasn’t

Good point. There’s far too many crazies out there nowadays - it’s getting hard to keep track of ‘em all. The MAGABomber, Incels, 3%ers, Sovereign Citizens, etc.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:26:29am

Norwegian Frigate rammed by tanker.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:36:13am

re: #153 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Norwegian Frigate rammed by tanker.

#Greek Aframax tanker SOLA TS collided with #Norway Navy frigate HNOMS HELGE INGSTAD in the morning Nov 8 in North sea north of Bergen, Norway

Now if we could just name our Navy ships after people like Helge Ingstad….

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:41:31am

There are multiple fatalities. Shooter is dead inside bar.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 2:48:23am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 3:00:20am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 3:00:55am

11 victims dead, sheriff dead, suspect dead, unknown total of injuries at this time.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 8, 2018 • 3:13:07am

Man, the deputy was 29 years on the force, was going to retire in a year.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2018 • 3:35:40am

Sigh. Just another day in America.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 8, 2018 • 3:49:05am

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2018 • 4:21:05am

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 4:34:18am

Well hell…I awake to another mass shooting.

Now listed as 12 dead.

The sheriff sergeant that was killed was about to retire after 29 years.

And Thousand Oaks is considered one of the safest communities in the US.

That tells me no one is safe.

This must be “Making America Great Again.”

But it is too early…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 4:50:34am

Regarding the shooting incident in Thousand Oaks,

Authorities confirmed that the shooter had been killed, but did not immediately identify him. Dean said it was too early to determine whether there was any link to terrorism.

The gunman apparently was not carrying any form of identification and it will take time to take his fingerprints and run them through databases, local and federal officials said. The gunman was described as a white male, armed with a single handgun, a law enforcement source said.

nbcnews.com

Somewhat odd that he had no form of ID on him; perhaps deliberate on his part, to make himself as much a pain in the ass in death as he (presumably) was in life.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 8, 2018 • 4:57:43am

re: #44 A Mom Anon

Ya’all, this past year has just been a freaking hot mess. Anxiety and depression off the charts, what can go wrong has. I know I’m not the only one who struggles with this shit. This whole midterm mayhem has put me in a tailspin. I’m glad it’s (mostly) over. We made lots of good inroads. For that I am grateful.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 4:59:05am

re: #16 Charles Johnson

Jeff Sessions, who RWNJ loved for so long, now must be discarded because he wouldn’t recuse. RWNJ who wanted Hillary, Obama and AG Lynch “lynched” for the Clinton tarmac meeting now want to remove all possible means of oversight of Dear Leader.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:00:27am

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

good grief

sad

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:03:22am

I wake up and see yet another shooting in America and Republicans once again offer the thoughts and prayers…while they continue to kiss NRA ass…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:03:30am

re: #145 goddamnedfrank

#Borderline and thousand oaks is just punishment from above for our sins, no news source will even state what type of bar it is so that we can see the full picture of what kind of bad happens there!!!

— TrueAmericanPatriot

Oh, was it a gay transgender MS-13 Caravan Shakira Law bar?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:05:53am

re: #111 Chrysicat

Today has inspired me to work so much harder. I’m disgusted by what happened last night. my investigations are going to expose some of the most evil people in our country. I now have pure adrenaline running through my body today. We can’t allow for Sharia to thrive in the US.
— Laura Loomer

Ma’am, do you want the combo or just the sandwich?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:06:06am

re: #169 Sir John Barron

Oh, was it a gay transgender MS-13 Caravan Shakira Law bar?

Something tells me that ass is a Russian troll.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:09:35am

re: #93 DodgerFan1988

President Trump believes in a free press and expects and welcomes tough questions of him and his Administration.

ahahhahhhahahahhhahahhahahah

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:10:23am

Back later; off to work.

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jeffreyw  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:11:43am

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Good morning!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:14:51am

re: #171 Joe Bacon 🌹

Something tells me that ass is a Russian troll.

Общее имя и строка чисел? Влад не собирается платить за такой дешевый троллинг, Сергей!

(Common name and a string of numbers? Vlad is not going to pay for such cheap trolling, Sergei!)

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:26:08am

re: #166 Sir John Barron

Jeff Sessions, who RWNJ loved for so long, now must be discarded because he wouldn’t recuse. RWNJ who wanted Hillary, Obama and AG Lynch “lynched” for the Clinton tarmac meeting now want to remove all possible means of oversight of Dear Leader.

Jeff Sessions is finding who his friends aren’t.

I saw a video clip of Trump when he first learned about Sessions recusing himself. Trump is upset and saying he would never have hired him if he knew he was going to recuse himself.

Dumb ass Trump put Sessions in the spot he had to recuse himself because it was Trump that triggered the Mueller investigation.

And it was Trump that put Sessions in his campaign which brought in the Russians.

But Trump never takes responsibility for anything.

Now the news reports are saying his new replacement AG should recuse himself because of all the public statements he has made about the investigation.

Did Trump rush to appoint Matthew Whitaker because he liked what he said about the investigation and never considered his statements could cause him issues and he should also recuse himself?

It would not surprise me. I hope Whitaker is forced to recuse so we can watch Trump blow up about him too.

Trump is like, so smart…he has a great brain. Ignorant asshole.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:32:36am

re: #176 ObserverArt

Jeff Sessions is finding who his friends aren’t.

I saw a video clip of Trump when he first learned about Sessions recusing himself. Trump is upset and saying he would never have hired him if he knew he was going to recuse himself.

Dumb ass Trump put Sessions in the spot he had to recuse himself because it was Trump that triggered the Mueller investigation.

And it was Trump that put Sessions in his campaign which brought in the Russians.

But Trump never takes responsibility for anything.

Now the news reports are saying his new replacement AG should recuse himself because of all the public statements he has made about the investigation.

Did Trump rush to appoint Matthew Whitaker because he liked what he said about the investigation and never considered his statements could cause him issues and he should also recuse himself?

It would not surprise me. I hope Whitaker is forced to recuse so we can watch Trump blow up about him too.

Trump is like, so smart…he has a great brain. Ignorant asshole.

Somebody downstairs was worried about Jefferson Beauregard running for Senator in Alabama in 2020, but he’s about as popular with the Trumpelstiltskins as Hillary Clinton right now….

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:33:39am

re: #177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Somebody downstairs was worried about Jefferson Beauregard running for Senator in Alabama in 2020, but he’s about as popular with the Trumpelstiltskins as Hillary Clinton right now….

Everything Drump Touches Dies

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:42:49am

It’s a terrible morning. Just woke up. Not sure if this broke up thread, but in Thousand Oaks late last night at a bar called Borderline, there was a mass shooting. 13 dead including a Deputy Sheriff and the gunman.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:49:54am

Another shooting. Damn it all.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:50:37am

re: #179 Unshaken Defiance

It’s a terrible morning. Just woke up. Not sure if this broke up thread, but in Thousand Oaks late last night at a bar called Borderline, there was a mass shooting. 13 dead including a Deputy Sheriff and the gunman.

Yeah, it was covered by DirtDart up around #146.

What other country has these issues almost getting to be daily now?

They say this is the land of the free. It is almost to the point to where you have to consider if you want to go out in public spaces.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:55:05am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 5:58:30am

re: #182 DodgerFan1988

He’s right. The NRA/GOP refuse to even consider compromising on this issue. Something needs to be done. The status quo on this issue simply is NOT working.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:03:56am

re: #183 HappyWarrior

He’s right. The NRA/GOP refuse to even consider compromising on this issue. Something needs to be done. The status quo on this issue simply is NOT working.

As long as either the Senate, House or WH is controlled by the GOP, nothing will be done. Blood sacrifices must be made to the Tree of Liberty, which is so very, very thirsty.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:04:10am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Another goddamned fucking mass shooting. This time in California. 13 dead, including a sheriff who was among the first responding. The shooter is a white guy, 29 years old, who had a 45 caliber handgun and apparently used smoke grenades too.

I’m ready to talk about Columbine, VA Tech, Binghamton, and Sandy Hook. Enough time has passed.

Oh, you mean we have to wait again? It’s been a year since Las Vegas, and some of the people who were at that mass shooting were in the club last night. We have people in this country who are survivors of multiple mass shootings.

That’s beyond fucked up.

But the GOP and NRA refuse to do anything about it beyond calling for more gun sales and arming people to the teeth. That’s the problem - the easy availability of guns, not that we don’t have enough guns.

We don’t do enough to screen people that have guns, and some states have such lax rules that they become an Iron Pipeline into states with strong gun laws.

California has stronger gun laws, and it shows with a lower per capita gun death rate than neighboring states - Nevada and Arizona have lax gun laws, and their gun death rates are far higher.

Trump wont do anything - he refuses to act - unless there’s a foreigner or an Islamic terrorist involved. That’s the only thing that gets him going.

Another white guy shooting up a public space wont do it.

It never has. The GOP/NRA have accepted this and refuse to change it.

They are the problem.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:06:27am

re: #182 DodgerFan1988

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:07:08am

re: #184 Big Beautiful Door

As long as either the Senate, House or WH is controlled by the GOP, nothing will be done. Blood sacrifices must be made to the Tree of Liberty, which is so very, very thirsty.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:07:54am

My now representative said so on Tuesday night this- It shouldn’t be easier to get a gun than to vote.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:10:55am

re: #178 Sir John Barron

Sessions should go knit.

He might have enough time if he too is implicated in Trumpworld’s criminality (obstruction of justice, lying under oath, etc.)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:16:57am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

My now representative said so on Tuesday night this- It shouldn’t be easier to get a gun than to vote.

We just passed this on Tuesday—whether it’ll make any differece or not, who knows?

Initiative Measure No. 1639 concerns firearms.

This measure would require increased background checks, training, age limitations, and waiting periods for sales or delivery of semiautomatic assault rifles; criminalize noncompliant storage upon unauthorized use; allow fees; and enact other provisions.

Should this measure be enacted into law?

But of course this latest shooting was with a handgun, and the handgun is absolutely sacred, despite the obvious fact that the 2nd Amendment doesn’t touch on them at all. Handguns “essential for the security of a Free State”? Please!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:17:16am

re: #179 Unshaken Defiance

It’s a terrible morning. Just woke up. Not sure if this broke up thread, but in Thousand Oaks late last night at a bar called Borderline, there was a mass shooting. 13 dead including a Deputy Sheriff and the gunman.

Right near where I’m staying tomorrow and Saturday night. My girls’ family lives in TO.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:19:14am

She liked me in response to this. I’m not sure how I feel about that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:22:36am

This is sweet. Karen Handel, who beat Ossoff in a closely watched special election last year, lost Tuesday.

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Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:22:46am

Shit. More bad news.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:23:02am

Reading this thread calms me down some. Ms Rangappa is still expecting Whitaker to hold to normal lawyerly professionalism and the DOJ culture, which given the history of the thugs Trump has picked to serve under him may be wishful thinking. But she’s the expert, not I.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:24:01am

re: #194 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Shit. More bad news.

Aw shit…She’s got to stay alive to stop Trump and McConnell from putting another asshole on the court.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:24:54am

re: #194 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Shit. More bad news.

Hope she has a speedy recovery.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:25:09am

RBG fell at the courthouse and broke 3 ribs too. What a day. Where was Brett? Did he push her down the steps? (Wish I was kidding)

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wheat-dogg  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:25:21am

re: #194 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Shit. More bad news.

She’s a tough old bird, but elderly people don’t tend to do well during lengthy hospital stays. May she survive this and thrive!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:27:38am

re: #193 Big Beautiful Door

This is sweet. Karen Handel, who beat Ossoff in a closely watched special election last year, lost Tuesday.

McBath is a pretty good candidate too. One who unfortunately has known the both tragedy of racism and gun violence. Her son was Jordan Davis, the kid who was killed by the asshole because he felt “threatened” by Jordan and his friends’ loud music. It seems to me that even if and I hope she doesn’t, Stacey Abrams helped a lot of people like Beto did.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:28:26am

re: #194 Michele: Out of the closet and into the fire

Shit. More bad news.

Aw hell no. Get well Justice Ginsberg.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:29:09am

re: #191 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Oh no… All of theses are awful, but closer is more frightening. I guess that’s just natural reaction.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:33:00am

OK, RBG went home after the fall and went to the hospital because she was still experiencing discomfort, so it doesn’t sound that bad.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:34:14am

Oh and this district that Handel just lost. That’s not just Newt’s old seat but that of a staunch Jim Crow segregationist named Carl Vinson. I wanted Jon Ossoff to win because I feel we need more people my generation in Congress but I’m happy that Lucy ended up winning the seat. She’s got a pretty impressive background.
en.wikipedia.org

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:34:24am

re: #56 uriel

Normally, I steer clear of twitter stuff, but even I couldn’t sit back on this one. Just wish I hadn’t screwed up on the hyphen. :(

SHS has plenty of self esteem. She has no sense of decency. Just like Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:35:34am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

I’m proud of her for running after her son was murdered by a gun nut in Florida. That’s a strong woman.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:37:18am

And here is the GOP “solution” to mass shootings:

State Rep. Robert Goforth, R-East Bernstadt, said his bill would eliminate most of the prohibited locations in the state law allowing “concealed carry” because armed Kentuckians should be allowed to defend themselves and others in this era of mass shootings. It serves no one’s safety to declare so many gun-free zones that criminals won’t respect, Goforth said in a recent interview.

“This is a public protection bill,” said Goforth, a farmer and former pharmacist who first was elected to the House in a special election in February. “After everything we’ve seen going on, I think our citizens need to be able to protect themselves. Without the right to bear arms, you’ll continue to see violence like we did in Louisville the other day. The violence is just continually growing in our society.”

MOAR GUNZ!!1!!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:41:08am

re: #195 wheat-dogg

Reading this thread calms me down some. Ms Rangappa is still expecting Whitaker to hold to normal lawyerly professionalism and the DOJ culture, which given the history of the thugs Trump has picked to serve under him may be wishful thinking. But she’s the expert, not I.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:43:19am

re: #206 Patricia Kayden

I’m proud of her for running after her son was murdered by a gun nut in Florida. That’s a strong woman.

Twice a cancer survivor too I see and she lost another son as well. Tough lady.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:43:43am

re: #207 Big Beautiful Door

And here is the GOP “solution” to mass shootings:

MOAR GUNZ!!1!!

Fucking gun cultists.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:44:40am

re: #208 Big Beautiful Door

I hope he chooses otherwise. The Right has a way of eating its own if they aren’t pure enough. I hope he realizes that, and that Trump will not protect him if his career goes south.

Anyway, time for bed here. I hope the republic can hold together another eight hours or so.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:46:44am

Fuck off!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:47:49am

re: #207 Big Beautiful Door

When is this f’er up for re-election?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:50:22am

re: #212 DodgerFan1988

Fuck off!

And what are they going to do if he turns out to be an Arab Christian who agrees with their views on Muslims? These people are fucking ghouls.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:50:25am

re: #182 DodgerFan1988

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:50:41am

re: #213 GlutenFreeJesus

When is this f’er up for re-election?

I imagine he just won.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:53:44am

re: #213 GlutenFreeJesus

When is this f’er up for re-election?

He just got re-elected with nearly 76% of the vote.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:55:44am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:56:07am

I’m just numb to these mass shootings. I almost don’t fucking care anymore.

But I guess that’s exactly what the NRA wants.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:56:08am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

There’s a carrier named after Carl Vinson.

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danarchy  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:56:18am

Sign that mass shootings have become far too commonplace, I heard a short blurb about it on one of the news channels before they went back to talking politics. So I switched through all the other news channels to see if anyone was talking about it and it was all politics.

When you can’t count on “if it bleeds it leads” you know we are getting numb.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:57:39am

re: #207 Big Beautiful Door

And here is the GOP “solution” to mass shootings:

MOAR GUNZ!!1!!

So what is this jackass, State Rep. Robert Goforth, going to do when a shit load of drunkards get into a heated exchange and out come the guns and they start shooting at each other and innocent people become involved.

Or some students in a school or at college get pissed off and they start shooting at each other and it turns into a gun free for all.

Because, it is going to happen.

More guns is already the issue. Even more guns will just be more and more death.

Gah…it is even getting upsetting typing about this subject because the NRA and the GOP have turned this all into a senseless morass.

How do we defend ourselves from this IF we want nothing to do with guns? I don’t want a damn gun. I’ve lived 64 years, many years in an area of Columbus most Whites refused to be a part of, and I’ve never had any issues not having one.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:59:14am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

And what are they going to do if he turns out to be an Arab Christian who agrees with their views on Muslims? These people are fucking ghouls.

The Right Wing Playbook on Mass Shootings:
If it’s not Muslim terrorism then it’s a false flag operation with crisis actors.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:59:32am

re: #220 Belafon

There’s a carrier named after Carl Vinson.

I just mentioned that to my husband and he reminded me of what a profoundly terrible person Bragg was…Bragg as in the Fort.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 6:59:45am

re: #218 Sufficient unto the day…

Why not just say he cured cancer if we’re going to be saying stupid shit like this.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:00:07am

re: #220 Belafon

There’s a carrier named after Carl Vinson.

Yeah I think he was chair of Armed Forces during WWII.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:01:00am

re: #223 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Playbook on Mass Shootings:
If it’s not Muslim terrorism then it’s a false flag operation with crisis actors.

This has a more incel vibe.

A law-enforcement source told the Los Angeles Times the gunman drove his mother’s vehicle to the bar.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:01:06am

re: #223 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Playbook on Mass Shootings:
If it’s not Muslim terrorism then it’s a false flag operation with crisis actors.

Ian Long…that sure sounds like a Muslim terrorist.

Fuck Geller, Loomer, Watson.

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:02:48am

Pity the poor sane souls haven’t yet checked the news and then open Twitter and see this trending list:

*scream emoji goes here*
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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:03:18am

re: #228 ObserverArt

Ian Long…that sure sounds like a Muslim terrorist.

Fuck Geller, Loomer, Watson.

It sounds like a character out of 90210.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:03:40am

re: #228 ObserverArt

Ian Long…that sure sounds like a Muslim terrorist.

Fuck Geller, Loomer, Watson.

It’s their function to jump in and call the shooter a Muslim. Even when his real name comes out, it’s too late—now it’s RW gospel.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:04:57am

Relative praying for RBG’s death.

Unfriended and blocked on Facebook.

I truly hate and despise what Christianity has mutated into.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:05:33am

re: #231 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s their function to jump in and call the shooter a Muslim. Even when his real name comes out, it’s too late—now it’s RW gospel.

They do it in the hope that, if it turns out right, they can claim they knew it all along and none of those other shootings meaning anything, that Muslims are the evil ones.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:05:54am

re: #222 ObserverArt

So what is this jackass, State Rep. Robert Goforth, going to do when a shit load of drunkards get into a heated exchange and out come the guns and they start shooting at each other and innocent people become involved.

Or some students in a school or at college get pissed off and they start shooting at each other and it turns into a gun free for all.

Because, it is going to happen.

More guns is already the issue. Even more guns will just be more and more death.

Gah…it is even getting upsetting typing about this subject because the NRA and the GOP have turned this all into a senseless morass.

How do we defend ourselves from this IF we want nothing to do with guns? I don’t want a damn gun. I’ve lived 64 years, many years in an area of Columbus most Whites refused to be a part of, and I’ve never had any issues not having one.

In the future the NRA wants for us, Kevlar becomes a standard part of clothing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:06:31am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Relative praying for RBG’s death.

Unfriended and blocked on Facebook.

I truly hate and despise what Christianity has mutated into.

Oh damn. My conservatives on FB can be a bit obnoxious but nothing like that shit.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:06:52am

About the shooter. This is just sad.

One neighbor who knew Long said he was a veteran who suffered from PTSD. She said, “I don’t know what he was doing with a gun.” Others said Long lived at the home with his mother.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:06:57am

re: #228 ObserverArt

Ian Long…that sure sounds like a Muslim terrorist.

Fuck Geller, Loomer, Watson.

Holy shit that’s a whiter name than I have and I have a German last name.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:06:58am

re: #234 Big Beautiful Door

In the future the NRA wants for us, Kevlar becomes a standard part of clothing.

Shit, I hope it doesn’t make me itch as bad as polyester.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:08:52am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Holy shit that’s a whiter name than I have and I have a German last name.

I flashed on Justin Long—you know, Mac from the Mac vs. PC commercials.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:09:15am

Not even Arab or Muslim. Geller, Watson, and Loomer strike again. WTG guys.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:09:30am

re: #223 DodgerFan1988

The Right Wing Playbook on Mass Shootings:
If it’s not Muslim terrorism then it’s a false flag operation with crisis actors.

War veteran with PTSD; another gift from the Bush Administration.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:10:28am

re: #239 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I flashed on Justin Long—you know, Mac from the Mac vs. PC commercials.

What happened to him anyhow? Seemed like he was a bit actor there for a time but hasn’t been in much recently. Was surprised that he was close to 10 years older than me since he’s always looked so much younger than he is but that could be because of his build and the fact you never see him with facial hair.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:10:54am

I hate this man so much. A fine representative of how much power truly begets power.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:11:12am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

Relative praying for RBG’s death.

Unfriended and blocked on Facebook.

I truly hate and despise what Christianity has mutated into.

Remember 3 days ago was Guy Fawkes Day—celebrating the discovery of a plot by a Papal agent sent from Rome to blow up the King and both Houses of Parliament. It’s never been any different.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:11:30am

re: #241 Big Beautiful Door

War veteran with PTSD; another gift from the Bush Administration.

And of Republican bullshit that encourages people like this to continue to be strapped and paranoid instead of gettign help. Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:12:22am

re: #243 Citizen K

I hate this man so much. A fine representative of how much power truly begets power.

Exit Kris Kobach, enter Brian Kemp, stage left. Gah. Would not surprise me if he’s someone that is considered an heir to Trump’s throne.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:12:38am

re: #234 Big Beautiful Door

In the future the NRA RUSSIA wants for us, Kevlar becomes a standard part of clothing.

FIFY

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:14:14am

re: #234 Big Beautiful Door

In the future the NRA wants for us, Kevlar becomes a standard part of clothing.

I said back at the Pittsburgh shootings the GOP will call for all public buildings, spaces, events, etc. to have armed guards by law.

Trump will tout it as great job creation legislation because of all the needs for armed ex-military and police.

The NRA will be happy because the gun makers will be happy.

And it will solve not one damn thing…just make for dead armed guards.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:14:24am

Article in the Post that I missed yesterday about how Brexit is stirring up the fragile peace in Northern Ireland. Thanks nationalist assholes. And that one is definitely impacting my distant relatives who still live there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:14:50am

So, this NOT “middle eastern” person is one of the people the GOP wants carrying a firearm while guarding children in school .
And, there were a whole bunch of ‘good guys with guns’ there

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:15:16am

re: #248 ObserverArt

I said back at the Pittsburgh shootings the GOP will call for all public buildings, spaces, events, etc. to have armed guards by law.

Trump will tout it as great job creation legislation because of all the needs for armed ex-military and police.

The NRA will be happy because the gun makers will be happy.

And it will solve not one damn thing…just make for dead armed guards.

And this morning we have another dead cop who was armed.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:18:36am

re: #248 ObserverArt

I said back at the Pittsburgh shootings the GOP will call for all public buildings, spaces, events, etc. to have armed guards by law.

Trump will tout it as great job creation legislation because of all the needs for armed ex-military and police.

The NRA will be happy because the gun makers will be happy.

And it will solve not one damn thing…just make for dead armed guards.

I’ve been in the private security racket. Your only function is to up the stakes—turning robbery into murder—thereby (hopefully) deterring the robbers.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:22:41am

I don’t get how controversial it is but we do need a 21st century look at the right to bear arms. I’m sorry but we fucking do when it comes to machines that can quickly end lives and are created for that sole purpose. It’s different than the 1st amendment in that way.

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:22:43am
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VegasGolfer  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:24:26am

Mayor McCheese in the running for AG

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:25:32am

re: #255 VegasGolfer

Mayor McCheese in the running for AG

With the new, Trumpier Senate, Trump should have no trouble getting whatever toady he selects confirmed.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:25:48am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I don’t get how controversial it is but we do need a 21st century look at the right to bear arms. I’m sorry but we fucking do when it comes to machines that can quickly end lives and are created for that sole purpose. It’s different than the 1st amendment in that way.

Except we’re not going to get that for at least 20-30 years with the current makeup of the Supreme Court. If anything else, the 2nd Amendment will be treated as even more sacrosanct even as all the other amendments get whittled down to ensure power stays forever with white men only.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:26:17am

re: #255 VegasGolfer

Mayor McCheese in the running for AG

I had forgotten about him. Yuck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:26:50am

re: #257 Citizen K

Except we’re not going to get that for at least 20-30 years with the current makeup of the Supreme Court. If anything else, the 2nd Amendment will be treated as even more sacrosanct even as all the other amendments get whittled down to ensure power states forever with white men only.

Oh I know man. I am just saying that fuck the 2nd amendment as it’s currently written and interpreted. It’s not fucking working.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:27:26am

re: #255 VegasGolfer

Mayor McCheese in the running for AG

re: #258 HappyWarrior

I had forgotten about him. Yuck.

Because he did such a fantastic job as NJ Gov. Fuck.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:27:43am

re: #255 VegasGolfer

Mayor McCheese in the running for AG

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Well, he’d be merely John Ashcroft awful instead of Kris Kobach awful. Probably.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:27:45am

The whole “it was a Muslim!!!!” thing started happening moments after the suspect was described as bearded.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:27:49am

re: #256 Big Beautiful Door

With the new, Trumpier Senate, Trump should have no trouble getting whatever toady he selects confirmed.

Which is why I think he’d go all in with Kobach before Christie. But then again didn’t Trump want Christie to be his VP too? Either way, I don’t trust Trump to make a good pick for AG just like he proved when he made Sessions AG in the first place.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:28:46am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

Oh I know man. I am just saying that fuck the 2nd amendment as it’s currently written and interpreted. It’s not fucking working.

It’s working exactly as intended for the NRA, which is still the problem. It’s still all about protecting the idea of the gun as a talisman, and between the NRA and the GOP banking on fear of the ‘other’. it’s working exactly as they want it to.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:28:47am

re: #262 GlutenFreeJesus

The whole “it was a Muslim!!!!” thing started happening moments after the suspect was described as bearded.

*Looks at chin* Well fuck.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:30:46am

Anyone else hearing radio commercials about becoming an investor in America’s next great money making venture?

The American Cannabis Summit…hosted by…wait for it…

John Boehner.

Hearing them a lot on local sports radio.

This shit pisses me off. Fucking Boehner and the GOP have been fucking with drug policy for years. Now the fucker is out and making money…and it is still illegal in Ohio.

Here is their web site: 2019 North American Cannabis Summit

Here is a long ass video.

American Cannabis Summit

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:32:08am

re: #266 ObserverArt

He’s no longer worried about blacks not voting for him.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:32:08am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I don’t get how controversial it is but we do need a 21st century look at the right to bear arms. I’m sorry but we fucking do when it comes to machines that can quickly end lives and are created for that sole purpose. It’s different than the 1st amendment in that way.

We needed a damn 20th Century look at the right to bear arms.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:32:53am

re: #268 ObserverArt

We needed a damn 20th Century look at the right to bear arms.

Definitely!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:33:49am

re: #266 ObserverArt

Anyone else hearing radio commercials about becoming an investor in America’s next great money making venture?

The American Cannabis Summit…hosted by…wait for it…

John Boehner.

Hearing them a lot on local sports radio.

This shit pisses me off. Fucking Boehner and the GOP have been fucking with drug policy for years. Now the fucker is out and making money…and it is still illegal in Ohio.

Here is their web site: 2019 North American Cannabis Summit

Here is a long ass video.

[Embedded content]

Watch some of the Republicans that lost two nights ago try to act like they’re voices of reason too. That’s definitely something I expect from Trumpstock.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:33:50am

re: #266 ObserverArt

Anyone else hearing radio commercials about becoming an investor in America’s next great money making venture?

The American Cannabis Summit…hosted by…wait for it…

John Boehner.

Hearing them a lot on local sports radio.

This shit pisses me off. Fucking Boehner and the GOP have been fucking with drug policy for years. Now the fucker is out and making money…and it is still illegal in Ohio.

Here is their web site: 2019 North American Cannabis Summit

Here is a long ass video.

[Embedded content]

Lot of progress in marijuana legalization this week. Now 32 states have legalized it for at least medicinal use.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:34:51am

re: #262 GlutenFreeJesus

The whole “it was a Muslim!!!!” thing started happening moments after the suspect was described as bearded.

Oh so it is about beard (yeah, I know, it has been).

So, how about tweeters just jump to saying it was Proud Boys. Many have beards.

I guess you need to show you are a real man by having a beard…it must be hard to tell other wise.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:36:30am

re: #268 ObserverArt

We needed a damn 20th Century look at the right to bear arms.

We got one. Nobody before 1960 or so ever imagined that the 2nd Amendment had anything to do with private gun ownership, “self-defense” or any of that crap. Since then, churning out lies like that has become a major industry, but Heller was the first Supreme Court decision to recognize it.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:36:56am

my two takeaways, summarized at electoral-vote.com
(the first we were talking about yesterday, esp re North Dakota)

Furthermore, the tribes don’t even interact any more. The blue tribe lives in cities and surrounding suburbs in both blue states and red states. The red tribe lives in rural areas in both blue states and red states. The color of a state is simply determined by whether the state has enough cities to balance the rural areas that every state haseducation and cities are correlated. People with college degrees predominantly live in cities or their suburbs while few people in rural areas have college degrees.

and

If the Democrats don’t hold Trump’s feet to the fire at all, the base will be furious…However, if the blue team merely spends the next two years trading blows with Trump, they are likely to lose that game, since the President is uniquely talented at getting down into the gutter. The far better path is to pass bill after bill that forces the GOP-controlled Senate and/or the President to make some uncomfortable choices about healthcare, or tax cuts for the middle class, or funding for infrastructure improvements, or protections for voting rights, or the like. Pelosi and the Democratic leadership know this very well, so expect them to adopt a roadmap of this sort.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:36:58am

re: #272 ObserverArt

Oh so it is about beard (yeah, I know, it has been).

So, how about tweeters just jump to saying it was Proud Boys. Many have beards.

I guess you need to show you are a real man by having a beard…it must be hard to tell other wise.

Real men don’t have one of the things that men can do biologically but women can’t! Yeah it’s weird. I was actually clean shaved for most of last Thanksgiving through October but I decided to grow it back because I like it better. It’s always funny with me and my two brothers because we never seem to be totally on board with the same facial hair situation at the same time.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:38:04am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:38:22am

re: #274 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We got one. Nobody before 1960 or so ever imagined that the 2nd Amendment had anything to do with private gun ownership, “self-defense” or any of that crap. Since then, churning out lies like that has become a major industry, but Heller was the first Supreme Court decision to recognize it.

Yeah the wingnut interpretation of the “founders intentions” is modern just like their interpretation of capitalism.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:41:16am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:43:40am

re: #279 makeitstop

Well here we go. I suspect alot of nuts on both sides will be unhappy but I think it will be thorough and professional.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:43:50am

Yeah, miss me with that shit, Bernie. Stop making apologia for racists who don’t like to be called racists.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:44:13am

The mess Kentucky is in: 18% of the state budget going to pensions. We have the worst funded state employee pension system in the country.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:45:26am

re: #281 Citizen K

Yeah, miss me with that shit, Bernie. Stop making apologia for racists who don’t like to be called racists.

Bernie, please shut the hell up. That’s definitely racism. And what you said, stop fucking making apologies for people who act racist doing racist shit. Just because someone’s working class doesn’t mean they can’t be racist, you stupid fool.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:45:30am

re: #282 Big Beautiful Door

The mess Kentucky is in: 18% of the state budget going to pensions. We have the worst funded state employee pension system in the country.

Speaking of Kentucky, they have a governor election next year.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:46:53am

BTW Bernie, I’m sure Andrew Gillum who you backed loves hearing you making excuses like that shit for people who voted for his opponent. Really, this is why you shouldn’t have been nominated. You are fucking clueless about racism is because instead of staying in the most diverse city in the United States, you went to lily white fucking Vermont. Apologies to Vermont, it’s a beautiful state and I’ve met some nice people from there but Bernie is fucking clueless.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:47:02am

re: #284 Belafon

Speaking of Kentucky, they have a governor election next year.

And Bevin is extremely unpopular. But as we saw Tuesday, Kentucky is so red I don’t know if Andy Beshear can beat him. If anyone can its him; his dad was the Governor previous to Bevin and he was very popular.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:47:13am

re: #284 Belafon

Speaking of Kentucky, they have a governor election next year.

Maybe Kim Davis will run….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:49:25am

If any prominent Democrat talked the way Bernie does about race, progressives would blast him as a DINO, the way we do Manchin, etc. But because it’s Bernie, he gets away with that shit with too many people on the left.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:51:59am

I’m not talking about us here on LGF obviously but the parts of the left that I know in my social life. They understandably like a lot of what Bernie talks about economically but they totally ignore quite honestly that he’s insensitive as hell about race in this country. And I might be being too generous to label him insensitive.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:52:57am

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

And Bevin is extremely unpopular. But as we saw Tuesday, Kentucky is so red I don’t know if Andy Beshear can beat him. If anyone can its him; his dad was the Governor previous to Bevin and he was very popular.

Walker lost.

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:53:13am

Bernie Sanders;

You like ice cream.
Bernie likes ice cream.
You want ice cream.
Bernie wants you to have ice cream.
Did Bernie ever get anyone ice cream?
No.
Why not?
Democrats.
Fuck Bernie.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:55:33am

RawStory: GOP stands to lose four more House seats

Having already seen two California seats in the House of Representatives flip from Republican to the Democratic Party, GOP officials are faced with the prospect that four seats could be lost as vote tallying continues.

According to the Los Angeles Times, 40 percent or more ballots remain uncounted because Californians’ prefer to vote by mail, and those ballots could cause a swing for whichever candidate is currently leading.

The reports states, “The party has an exceedingly small chance of holding the seats of Reps. Dana Rohrabacher and Jeff Denham” with Republican Reps. Mimi Walters and Young Kim holding onto thin leads that could easily dissipate.

According to a polling analyst, late votes in California have a history of breaking towards Democrats by two points or more. “This is as dependable as the tides,” said Paul Mitchell, president of Political Data.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:55:34am

I suspect Beshear will be able to pay for KY pensions with the campaign donations he’ll get.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:56:33am

And I wished we lived in a world where the money would be going to help people and not campaigns, but we don’t live in that one yet.

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Archangelus  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:56:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:57:15am

re: #291 nines09

Bernie Sanders;

You like ice cream.
Bernie likes ice cream.
You want ice cream.
Bernie wants you to have ice cream.
Did Bernie ever get anyone ice cream?
No.
Why not?
Democrats.
Fuck Bernie.

I am really tired of him. I appreciate that this time he actually campaigned for people though Brian did point out that he was AWOL in his own state’s governor election. But at the same time, man he’s got a huge blind spot on race and I’m tired of other white progressives ignoring it because they love that he’s a Dem socialist and proud of it. Well you know what guys, I hate to tell you this but socialism doesn’t end racism. We could definitely benefit from more socialism in our economy I’ll be the first to agree with that but we need to be honest about racism and sexism and xenophobia in our country and Bernie, he of one of the least diverse states in the union is clueless about that. That’s why he shouldn’t be nominated in 2020. Criticize HRC all you want but at least she wasn’t an ostrich with her head in the sand about race, gender, and country of origin.

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:58:13am
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Weaselone  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:58:35am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

But at the same time, man he’s got a huge blind spot on race and I’m tired of other white progressives ignoring it because they love that he’s a Dem socialist and proud of it.

They aren’t ignoring his blind spot. They SHARE it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 7:59:50am

If you’re not comfortable voting for a minority candidate than chances are you probably aren’t:
comfortable with a minority being friends with your kids
comfortable with a minority marrying your child
comfortable with minorities living in your neighborhood
comfortable with a minority being your supervisor
comfortable with a minority having the same rights as you do.

Racism does transcend class which is exactly why Bernie’s apologia for working class racism sucks.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:00:11am

re: #298 Weaselone

They aren’t ignoring his blind spot. They SHARE it.

They definitely do.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:03:22am

Comfort is what you take care of after all your other needs have been met. It’s a true indicator of privilege.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:03:27am

re: #290 Belafon

Walker lost.

True, but Kentucky ain’t Wisconsin.

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:05:28am

re: #296 HappyWarrior

I had friends who went to the DNC in Philly July 2016. They were wearing Hillary buttons and swag. They are members of the Democratic Party in my blood red county.
They were cursed at, threatened and followed by a group of Bernie supporters.
Why?
Because Bernie is not a Democrat, nor is he working with Democrats and his most virulent supporters know that. I’m sure not all Bernie supporters are like that.
Right?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:05:46am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:06:17am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

If you’re not comfortable voting for a minority candidate than chances are you probably aren’t:
comfortable with a minority being friends with your kids
comfortable with a minority marrying your child
comfortable with minorities living in your neighborhood
comfortable with a minority being your supervisor
comfortable with a minority having the same rights as you do.

Racism does transcend class which is exactly why Bernie’s apologia for working class racism sucks.

And ten years after a solid majority of the country elected an African-American President, there is no excuse for this kind of nonsense from Bernie.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:06:22am

re: #274 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We got one. Nobody before 1960 or so ever imagined that the 2nd Amendment had anything to do with private gun ownership, “self-defense” or any of that crap. Since then, churning out lies like that has become a major industry, but Heller was the first Supreme Court decision to recognize it.

The big shift coincided with the Civil Rights movement.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:06:23am

re: #302 Big Beautiful Door

True, but Kentucky ain’t Wisconsin.

It really does seem the red states/regions are growing more red. One could argue the same for the blue ones but I don’t really think that’s the case given Baker and Hogan’s re-election victories and that Connecticut was a tough fight.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:07:10am

re: #303 nines09

I had friends who went to the DNC in Philly July 2016. They were wearing Hillary buttons and swag. They are members of the Democratic Party in my blood red county.
They were cursed at, threatened and followed by a group of Bernie supporters.
Why?
Because Bernie is not a Democrat, nor is he working with Democrats and his most virulent supporters know that. I’m sure not all Bernie supporters are like that.
Right?

Man that’s awful. TBH Bernie’s approach has more in common with Trump’s than I am comfortable with.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:07:24am

re: #299 HappyWarrior

If you’re not comfortable voting for a minority candidate than chances are you probably aren’t:
comfortable with a minority being friends with your kids
comfortable with a minority marrying your child
comfortable with minorities living in your neighborhood
comfortable with a minority being your supervisor
comfortable with a minority having the same rights as you do.

Racism does transcend class which is exactly why Bernie’s apologia for working class racism sucks.

Bingo. And his caveat in the article assuming that these voters will have an easier time of voting for a minority in later elections is pure naivete. If they have an issue now, just what makes him think they’ll somehow ‘come to Jesus’ later out of the goodness of their genuine hearts?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:07:37am

re: #306 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The big shift coincided with the Civil Rights movement.

Just like the shift on how white and yes Bernie working class Americans viewed government’s role in the economy.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:08:12am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:09:08am

re: #309 Citizen K

Bingo. And his caveat in the article assuming that these voters will have an easier time of voting for a minority in later elections is pure naivete. If they have an issue now, just what makes him think they’ll somehow ‘come to Jesus’ later out of the goodness of their genuine hearts?

It is so fucking clueless. If Bernie is the left’s conscience than frankly I don’t want to be part of what’s called the left in this country not with that clueless butthead leading the way. But he’s not thankfully. Thank goodness he’s towards the end of his political career not the beginning. Not saying I want him dead but I’m glad Bernie is 78 rather than 38 because he’s just so clueless and his clueless ass is influential.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:11:21am

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

And ten years after a solid majority of the country elected an African-American President, there is no excuse for this kind of nonsense from Bernie.

Exactly. Man he pisses me off. As I said, props for campaigning for Gillum and Abrams but fuck you dude for making excuses for the people who didn’t vote for them. It really saddens me that so many of my peers love this guy. He is just so,so clueless about race and it’s not his age. It’s him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:11:29am

re: #305 Big Beautiful Door

And ten years after a solid majority of the country elected an African-American President, there is no excuse for this kind of nonsense from Bernie.

We know for a fact that ten years ago there were 67 million people willing to vote for a black candidate. There are certainly at least a few more now. 67 million votes will win any election.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:12:35am

re: #314 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We know for a fact that ten years ago there were 67 million people willing to vote for a black candidate. There are certainly at least a few more now. 67 million votes will win any election.

Exactly. It’s a load of shit what he said. Just fucking say it Bernie, there are elements of the white working class that are racist, you dweeb. There are college educated whites that are too and I have no problem saying that as a college educated white man.

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:12:59am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Bernies approach is to suck the air out of every Democratic action/argument by saying it’s “not enough”.
Bernie supporters willfully did not vote “because” or some other lame brained half baked Unicorn poop story, nor did he support Hillary because he cried about being unfairly voted against.
Both him and Jill Stein can go piss up ropes.

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Teukka  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:13:19am

MsJoanne, sorry to steal your limelight, but this one was good, k?

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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:13:54am

re: #255 VegasGolfer

Mayor McCheese in the running for AG

He who prosecuted Jared’s papa? That’s interesting.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:14:00am

re: #236 MsJ

About the shooter. This is just sad.

More of the GOP lip service coming about needing more guns and how much they love veterans and take really good care of them.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:14:10am

re: #282 Big Beautiful Door

The mess Kentucky is in: 18% of the state budget going to pensions. We have the worst funded state employee pension system in the country.

you (they) made the promises, which were then relied on
you dont get to renege because fulfilling your promises got hard

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:14:29am

re: #316 nines09

Bernies approach is to suck the air out of every Democratic action/argument by saying it’s “not enough”.
Bernie supporters willfully did not vote “because” or some other lame brained half baked Unicorn poop story, nor did he support Hillary because he cried about being unfairly voted against.
Both him and Jill Stein can go piss up ropes.

2016 Dem platform incorporated much of his ideas and it still wasn’t good enough for many of them. I don’t like the right and I sure as hell don’t like the Trumpers but I am not really fond of Bernie’s coalition either.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:15:09am

re: #288 HappyWarrior

If any prominent Democrat talked the way Bernie does about race, progressives would blast him as a DINO, the way we do Manchin, etc. But because it’s Bernie, he gets away with that shit with too many people on the left.

fortunately for us, bernie isnt a democrat

//

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:16:06am

re: #322 dangerman

fortunately for us, bernie isnt a democrat

//

He’s not but I think Perez will probably allow him to run for President as one.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:16:16am

re: #272 ObserverArt

Oh so it is about beard (yeah, I know, it has been).

So, how about tweeters just jump to saying it was Proud Boys. Many have beards.

I guess you need to show you are a real man by having a beard…it must be hard to tell other wise.

And my Muslim brother-in-law doesn’t have a beard. Go figure.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:16:42am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

It really does seem the red states/regions are growing more red. One could argue the same for the blue ones but I don’t really think that’s the case given Baker and Hogan’s re-election victories and that Connecticut was a tough fight.

But blue state Republicans are a lot less extreme than red state Republicans; I can’t imagine Hogan could win in Md if he was a Tea Partier. The more extreme states are generally the ones that don’t have a large enough urban population to counter balance the rural whites. Kentucky is very rural and has a small African-American population, a large percentage of which is disenfranchised due to prior felonies.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:16:49am

re: #324 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

And my Muslim brother-in-law doesn’t have a beard. Go figure.

TEQUILLAH!

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:17:28am

re: #289 HappyWarrior

I’m not talking about us here on LGF obviously but the parts of the left that I know in my social life. They understandably like a lot of what Bernie talks about economically but they totally ignore quite honestly that he’s insensitive as hell about race in this country. And I might be being too generous to label him insensitive.

sure, he’s ‘just pointing stuff out’

im getting more convinced that he’s convinced himself he cant be at all racist because he’s the one making the statement

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:17:38am

re: #325 Big Beautiful Door

But blue state Republicans are a lot less extreme than red state Republicans; I can’t imagine Hogan could win in Md if he was a Tea Partier. The more extreme states are generally the ones that don’t have a large enough urban population to counter balance the rural whites. Kentucky is very rural and has a small African-American population, a large percentage of which is disenfranchised due to prior felonies.

That is true. Though I think it’s becoming safe to call us here in Va a blue state and our Republicans nominated Corey Stewart.

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:18:45am

re: #321 HappyWarrior

As I tell every Libertarian who speaks up in print or word, “Get the fuck off my roads.”

Bernie is just as Bernie wants for Bernie wants Bernie.
That’s what him and Orange Marmalade have in common.

BBL

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:19:28am

re: #327 dangerman

sure, he’s ‘just pointing stuff out’

im getting more convinced that he’s convinced himself he cant be at all racist because he’s the one making the statement

I don’t want to call Bernie racist but he has an ugly indifference to it that is shocking to me knowing Bernie’s background. And one could argue that indifference to racism is almost as or as bad as the racism itself and I wouldn’t disagree with that. I just know this. He doesn’t get 21st century America. He’s stuck in the past.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:21:00am

re: #327 dangerman

sure, he’s ‘just pointing stuff out’

im getting more convinced that he’s convinced himself he cant be at all racist because he’s the one making the statement

You’re going down my line of thought.

Bernie cares about race where he can benefit. Outside of that I wonder if he cares at all.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:21:55am

Gosh, I can’t understand why people would doubt Paul’s objectivity.

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:22:46am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Another thing that irritates me so much about this discussion is how racism is disingenuously framed as a binary issue - you either are or aren’t. And that’s ridiculous - racism is a continuum on which the same person can move in different directions dependent on a whole host of factors.

- Someone can have no trouble working or casually socializing with minorities, but be highly uncomfortable with the thought of dating/marrying one.

- Conversely, some can have no trouble with sexual relationships, yet not like the thought of socializing/working with or other contexts (like that billionaire basketball team owner who told his *biracial* mistress that he didn’t want black people in the audience for his games o_O)

- And then you have the infamous “one of the good ones” types, who are nice to minorities who behave in a manner they consider acceptable as opposed to the negative stereotypes they hold. And I daresay this might help explain a lot of the Obama-Trump voters, who were fine with Obama initially due to a) genuine bush-induced economic anxiety b) the fact he didn’t act like an “angry black man.” But as soon as Obama did something they considered too “blackity blackity black” (e.g. comments on police brutality), they abandoned him.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:25:32am

So it seems whenever young (so-called) progressives latch onto a cult figure, it’s always some old fart, like Ron Paul or Bernie. What’s up with that? I was expecting something more like Wild in the Streets.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:26:35am

re: #320 dangerman

you (they) made the promises, which were then relied on
you dont get to renege because fulfilling your promises got hard

I’m one of the retirees the pension was promised to!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:27:11am

re: #333 Interesting Times

Another thing that irritates me so much about this discussion is how racism is disingenuously framed as a binary issue - you either are or aren’t. And that’s ridiculous - racism is a continuum on which the same person can move in different directions dependent on a whole host of factors.

- Someone can have no trouble working or casually socializing with minorities, but be highly uncomfortable with the thought of dating/marrying one.

- Conversely, some can have no trouble with sexual relationships, yet not like the thought of socializing/working with or other contexts (like that billionaire basketball team owner who told his *biracial* mistress that he didn’t want black people in the audience for his games o_O)

- And then you have the infamous “one of the good ones” types, who are nice to minorities who behave in a manner they consider acceptable as opposed to the negative stereotypes they hold. And I daresay this might help explain a lot of the Obama-Trump voters, who were fine with Obama initially due to a) genuine bush-induced economic anxiety b) the fact he didn’t act like an “angry black man.” But as soon as Obama did something they considered too “blackity blackity black” (e.g. comments on police brutality), they abandoned him.

I think a lot of white people really think it’s either you’re a KKK type or you’re not. You’re right. It’s not binary at all. And I think you are right about the Obama-Trump crossover voters. They were fine with Obama-Biden when they saw him as standing up for their health care but they didn’t like him talking as a black man when he said Treyvon could have been his son. And you know the shame of it is? Bernie probably sees nothing wrong with that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:27:23am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

He’s not but I think Perez will probably allow him to run for President as one.

Perez can’t actually stop him.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:28:38am

re: #334 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So it seems whenever young (so-called) progressives latch onto some cult figure, it’s always some old fart, like Ron Paul or Bernie. What’s up with that? I was expecting something more like Wild in the Streets.

Bernie and Ron Paul’s movements have a lot in common. But you’re right. And here’s another thing. Their movements are always called revolutionary but Ron Paul and Bernie are both stuck in the past. I dare say it because she was seen as the ultimate establishment insider type and she was and I won’t deny that but HRC had a much more forward- read revolutionary look at our nation than Bernie did.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:28:49am

re: #337 Big Beautiful Door

Perez can’t actually stop him.

Oh nm then.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:29:47am

I think a lot of whites and I say this as a white guy and hell I know I have my blindspots but they think you have to be either KKK level racist to be racist and if you’re not that, then you can’t be a racist and that’s just not true.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:31:07am

I’m finding it pretty difficult to muster any sympathy at all for Tucker Carlson.

Act like a fascist, get treated like a fascist, I say.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:31:10am

re: #330 HappyWarrior

I don’t want to call Bernie racist but he has an ugly indifference to it that is shocking to me knowing Bernie’s background. And one could argue that indifference to racism is almost as or as bad as the racism itself and I wouldn’t disagree with that. I just know this. He doesn’t get 21st century America. He’s stuck in the past.

what i did in triple negatives above, i’ll now unpack:
bernie is a sometimes racist.

he’s said tone deaf, ignorant, stupid sounding stuff enough times over the years that if it were someone else we wouldnt hesitate to use the label

no, he doesnt do it all the time
and no, it’s not his main agenda or stock in trade

and being oblivious doenst get him off the hook

im done with him. he doesnt deserve a pass or our understanding. it happens too much.

and if the dems let him run as a dem, i’m gonna have issues, cause im a full fledged registered dem now (was ind) and i will vote the primaries

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:32:33am

What Perez can do is require all candidates to show their tax returns.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:33:16am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Oh nm then.

In this state every candidate can say what party they “prefer” and they have a note in the Voter’s Pamphlet that that doesn’t mean they were nominated or endorsed by the party in question.

I remember somebody a couple of elections ago that said: “Prefers Democrat Party.” I’m sure that was legit….

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:33:37am

re: #337 Big Beautiful Door

Perez can’t actually stop him.

no, but they can publicly discourage it by pointing out he’s not a dem

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Weaselone  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:33:41am

re: #315 HappyWarrior

Exactly. It’s a load of shit what he said. Just fucking say it Bernie, there are elements of the white working class that are racist, you dweeb. There are college educated whites that are too and I have no problem saying that as a college educated white man.

I’d go farther than that. The default setting for whites is to be racist while strongly believing we personally are not racist. We then generally get extremely pissy if accused of being so because real racists wear hoods and burn crosses. Racists are bad people, we are not bad, ergo we cannot be racist.

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Citizen K  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:33:53am

Matt, when he’s not busy with extra-dry sarcasm to Poe’s Law extent, or creeping close to Slatepitching again, can really hit the nail on the head sometimes.

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:34:26am

re: #340 HappyWarrior

I think a lot of whites and I say this as a white guy and hell I know I have my blindspots but they think you have to be either KKK level racist to be racist and if you’re not that, then you can’t be a racist and that’s just not true.

I can’t remember now who said it or where I first read it, but it was something to the effect of, use the word “prejudice” instead of “racism” because it might not result in as much of a defensive or knee-jerk reaction. So rather than “that’s racist”, you could say “that comment/opinion/whatever shows prejudice because…” and then go from there.

Like freetoken and Ghost of a Flea often say, certain words have been imbued with magical powers/meaning, so using a less-common word that essentially means the same thing might, in some circumstances, give you better results.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:34:29am

re: #343 Belafon

What Perez can do is require all candidates to show their tax returns.

That’s another thing he gets away with to his left fans taht would infuriate them if a establishment Dem did it. He’s not transparent. And part of his whole knock on HRC was that she wasn’t. As I said, more like Trump than he ain’t. I just feel twisted in my stomach because I know a lot of people who are a little younger than me who got involved in progressive politics because of him and to be frank, he’s not a good role model for progressives.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:34:59am

re: #326 HappyWarrior

TEQUILLAH!

Pee Wee Herman - Tequila

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:36:08am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

That is true. Though I think it’s becoming safe to call us here in Va a blue state and our Republicans nominated Corey Stewart.

The GOP is having a hard time accepting that fact, and they’ll keep losing until they do.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:36:09am

re: #346 Weaselone

I’d go farther than that. The default setting for whites is to be racist while strongly believing we personally are not racist. We then generally get extremely pissy if accused of being so because real racists wear hoods and burn crosses. Racists are bad people, we are not bad, ergo we cannot be racist.

That’s kind of what I got at above but you’re right. Ask a white person what a racist is and most would probably say something like white hood, swastika, etc. A PoC would probably have a more detailed answer and something that is far more everyday experience.

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Skip Intro  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:36:14am

re: #332 Ace-o-aces

Why is he still on Twitter? I thought they flushed all the Alex Jones turds away.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:36:44am

re: #351 Big Beautiful Door

The GOP is having a hard time accepting that fact, and they’ll keep losing until they do.

I certainly am not complaining. Going to work to flip my state senate district and delegate seat next fall.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:37:31am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:37:33am

re: #348 Interesting Times

I can’t remember now who said it or where I first read it, but it was something to the effect of, use the word “prejudice” instead of “racism” because it might not result in as much of a defensive or knee-jerk reaction. So rather than “that’s racist”, you could say “that comment/opinion/whatever shows prejudice because…” and then go from there.

Like freetoken and Ghost of a Flea often say, certain words have been imbued with magical powers/meaning, so using a less-common word that essentially means the same thing might, in some circumstances, give you better results.

Agreed.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:40:09am

re: #347 Citizen K

Matt, when he’s not busy with extra-dry sarcasm to Poe’s Law extent, or creeping close to Slatepitching again, can really hit the nail on the head sometimes.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:41:03am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

Man that’s awful. TBH Bernie’s approach has more in common with Trump’s than I am comfortable with.

Reminder—Manafort’s pal Tad was running Bernie’s campaign!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:41:42am

re: #358 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminder—Manafort’s pal Tad was running Bernie’s campaign!

That’s true but he’s also run a lot of other Democrats campaigns too that aren’t clueless af.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:45:19am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:46:17am

But yeah perhaps prejudice versus racist is the answer because of what the word racist and racism inspires. One can certainly be disturbed by the KKK and the treatment of civil rights protesters and one can still be prejudiced. It’s why a lot of middle white America definitely recoiled seeing what they saw on their TV’s in the 60’s and then went around and bought a lot of the bs in the 70’s and 80’s. And you know what, I’ll say it, I’m sure I have my prejudices too, I’m not free of them, but I strive to overcome them. I try to see people as individuals while being aware of differences. You need not be colorblind I argue but perhaps color-aware is something more whites need to be. My ears perk up when I hear accented English. My eyes wonder when I see a surname or given name I’m not familiar with. My nose gets curious when I read about cuisines I’ve never had. Don’t be “colorblind.” Be aware.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:47:04am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let’s hope Dentzer isn’t a Katharine Harris cosplayer. and has more integrity than her, Kobach, and Kemp across the border.

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:48:22am

re: #341 makeitstop

I’m finding it pretty difficult to muster any sympathy at all for Tucker Carlson.

Act like a fascist, get treated like a fascist, I say.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:50:40am
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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:50:57am

this just came to my email. unfortunate phrasing?

Take one minute to help save jaguars, elephants, gorillas & more from massive cuts

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:51:50am

This is interesting.

Remember when that kid got behind Trump at a mini-Nuremberg and was making faces? And someone came out to remove him?

The woman who removed him is the same woman who tried to rip the mic out of Acosta’s hand yesterday.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:55:14am

Joe haz a yuge disappoint:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:56:34am

re: #363 nines09

Their response to that is usually something “She put herself in the public eye so tough luck.” Then they complain about poor widdle Tucker, Ted Cruz, and McConnell not being able to eat. Hypocrites. And if Kavanaugh were half the man his fans say he is, he would call that shit out but he won’t because he has no problem with her being harasssed.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:57:27am

re: #366 makeitstop

This is interesting.

Remember when that kid got behind Trump at a mini-Nuremberg and was making faces? And someone came out to remove him?

The woman who removed him is the same woman who tried to rip the mic out of Acosta’s hand yesterday.

Yeah I’ve seen taht mentioned. Interesting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:58:30am
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jaunte  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:59:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 8:59:44am
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jaunte  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:00:44am
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gocart mozart  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:01:52am

re: #295 Archangelus

Isn’t this slander and defamation on Sanders’ part?
Couldn’t Acosta sue the living daylights out of her over this?

Yes. Acosta is a public figure which means he would have a higher burden of proof. Not only would he have to prove that what Sanders said was false, but he would also have to prove that she knew it was false when she said it. i.e. Malice or a knowingly and wilfully false statement. Normally this is very difficult to prove. [How do you prove the pizzagate nuts are lying and not just crazy stupid shitheads, for example?]

In this case there is a video and dozens of witnesses including Sanders who saw what actually happened. You can easily prove to a jury that Sarah is 100% lying by just showing the videotape.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:01:56am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:03:24am

re: #373 jaunte

[Embedded content]

It’s just mathematically impossible for as many races to be so close as they are in this country all the fucking time. This proves to me that we do in fact live in a simulation. Run by an asshole.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:03:45am

re: #373 jaunte

If the Democrats win those two in FL on recount, holy shit, the wingnut meltdown is gonna be one for the ages.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:03:50am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

British wingnuts are just as dumb as their American counterparts.Did you see my post above about how it’s leading to troubles in Northern Ireland because there’s uncertainty about how the border between NI and the RoI would be. I have family in Fermanagh which is smack dab on the border between the two.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:04:35am
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Skip Intro  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:04:44am

re: #377 Dr Lizardo

If the Democrats win those two in FL on recount, holy shit, the wingnut meltdown is gonna be one for the ages.

Yeah, bit it is Florida so the ratfucking will be especially strong there, election 2000 strong.

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:06:41am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Their response to that is usually something “She put herself in the public eye so tough luck.” Then they complain about poor widdle Tucker, Ted Cruz, and McConnell not being able to eat. Hypocrites. And if Kavanaugh were half the man his fans say he is, he would call that shit out but he won’t because he has no problem with her being harasssed.

Her case is the answer to every asshole who says “Why didn’t they come forward?” for fucking eternity.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:06:42am

re: #375 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I hadn’t quite understood the full extent of this, but if you look at the UK and look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing”

Dominic Raab, who is the government minister in charge of Brexit actually said this. Yesterday. God help us.

Yeah, the UK is fucked. Hell, I’m an American with no experience in high-level foreign affairs or the details of international trade or diplomacy and I can tell you that the Dover-Calais crossing is exceedingly important for the import and export of goods.

You know how I can do that?

By looking at a fucking map, that’s how.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:06:56am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp says he will resign his office today.

So does this mean if there’s a runoff he won’t be supervising it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:09:21am

re: #383 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So does this mean if there’s a runoff he won’t be supervising it?

correct

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:09:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:11:23am

he just loves a big mass shooting, the more deaths the better:

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:13:47am

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Their response to that is usually something “She put herself in the public eye so tough luck.” Then they complain about poor widdle Tucker, Ted Cruz, and McConnell not being able to eat. Hypocrites. And if Kavanaugh were half the man his fans say he is, he would call that shit out but he won’t because he has no problem with her being harasssed.

hey, judges cant be seen to be…something something
unless they’re auditioning for the job, then tv interviews, published op-eds etc are aok

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Skip Intro  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:13:51am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fuck off, you despicable pig. Just FUCK OFF!

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:14:08am

More Bernie facts.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:17:54am

2 + 2 = 5

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:18:25am

re: #382 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, the UK is fucked. Hell, I’m an American with no experience in high-level foreign affairs or the details of international trade or diplomacy and I can tell you that the Dover-Calais crossing is exceedingly important for the import and export of goods.

You know how I can do that?

By looking at a fucking map, that’s how.

wait till the 0:20 second mark:

YouTube

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nines09  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:19:29am

Off to the store. At least all the caring loving folk have taken down their Lou Barletta and Scott Wagner signs. Nicer drive. Still have a Trump Pence poster up in a poorer part of town.
Beats me. Can’t water a dead plant.
later

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:22:02am

re: #391 dangerman

wait till the 0:20 second mark:

[Embedded content]

Video

You know, with this whole Brexit fiasco, I can’t help but think the UK needs to replace “God Save The Queen” as their national anthem.

I suggest the following:

-Yakety Sax- Music

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:22:51am

I really hope CNN legal is looking closely at their options here.

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retired cynic  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:22:57am

Something nice:

thisiscolossal.com

Recreating Renaissance costumes from packing materials.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:24:04am

HOLY CRAP

“… According to The New York Times, a group of people in the bar - who survived the attack - had also survived the mass shooting in Las Vegas, Nevada at a concert outside the Mandalay Bay.

Witnesses have also said many people at the bar also attended the Route 91 country music festival in Las Vegas in October 2017, where 58 people were killed and 851 were injured during the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. …”

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:34:33am

re: #373 jaunte

Ahhh, 2000 deja vu

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:36:53am

re: #395 retired cynic

Something nice:

thisiscolossal.com

Recreating Renaissance costumes from packing materials.

[Embedded content]

like one of those unconventional trash challenges on project runway

(yes, way , way way better)

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:41:03am

re: #396 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

HOLY CRAP

i went ctrl/f ‘find page’ “multiple” because someone has mentioned this above
- it was lawhawk - we now have people who survived multiple mass shootings

anyway i saw that nonsense from loomer - cause ‘multiple’:

Multiple attendees reported that their cell reception was jammed, & one attendee said a WiFi network called “FBI surveillance van” popped up on his phone.

so two simple questions:
- how would you know your cell reception is ‘jammed’?
- you know that any bozo can name his wifi network anything he wants, right?

oh, and a third
- you think the actual non-bozo FBI advertises their presence like that?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:47:17am

Coordinating messaging?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:48:12am

re: #399 dangerman

[snip]
anyway i saw that nonsense from loomer - cause ‘multiple’:

so two simple questions:
- how would you know your cell reception is ‘jammed’?
- you know that any bozo can name his wifi network anything he wants, right?

oh, and a third
- you think the actual non-bozo FBI advertises their presence like that?

My last WiFi broadcast SSID was “Fuck Off”. This current one I just left it broadcasting the numbers it was pre-set with.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:48:42am

re: #400 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Coordinating messaging?

Gah

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:49:25am

re: #400 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The dude on the right…WTH is going on with his neck? I mean, I get that he works for Murdoch and is therefore a vulture…but he LOOKS LIKE ONE

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:50:01am

re: #399 dangerman

i went ctrl/f ‘find page’ “multiple” because someone has mentioned this above
- it was lawhawk - we now have people who survived multiple mass shootings

anyway i saw that nonsense from loomer - cause ‘multiple’:

so two simple questions:
- how would you know your cell reception is ‘jammed’?
- you know that any bozo can name his wifi network anything he wants, right?

oh, and a third
- you think the actual non-bozo FBI advertises their presence like that?

Loomer comes from the CCJ generation of really stupid wingnuts like Tomi Lahren and her belief Trump can’t be impeached because he was elected.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:50:41am

re: #399 dangerman

i went ctrl/f ‘find page’ “multiple” because someone has mentioned this above
- it was lawhawk - we now have people who survived multiple mass shootings

anyway i saw that nonsense from loomer - cause ‘multiple’:

so two simple questions:
- how would you know your cell reception is ‘jammed’?
- you know that any bozo can name his wifi network anything he wants, right?

oh, and a third
- you think the actual non-bozo FBI advertises their presence like that?

I exaggerated when I said you always see “FBI Surveillance Van”—I don’t see it here at home. But at the library and Safeway—to name two places with WiFi—it always shows up. Can’t be the same one, either, because the library’s four blocks one direction and Safeway’s six blocks the opposite direction. This is obviously very common.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:51:07am

Wasn’t it the FBI that slashed LL’s tires?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:53:11am

re: #404 HappyWarrior

her belief Trump can’t be impeached because he was elected.

What the fuck.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:54:12am

re: #407 Sufficient unto the day…

What the fuck.

Yeah she said that. And even she knew that Charlie Kirk and Candice Owens using Kanye was dumb.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:54:30am

re: #405 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I exaggerated when I said you always see “FBI Surveillance Van”—I don’t see it here at home. But at the library and Safeway—to name two places with WiFi—it always shows up. Can’t be the same one, either, because the library’s four blocks one direction and Safeway’s six blocks the opposite direction. This is obviously very common.

yeah, i didnt bother to read down the thread

its just wow - they are either really this incredibly stupid or craven liars

yeah yeah, why not both….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:54:32am

re: #393 Dr Lizardo

You know, with this whole Brexit fiasco, I can’t help but think the UK needs to replace “God Save The Queen” as their national anthem.

I suggest the following:

[Embedded content]

Gimme, Gimme, Gimme That Thing” like on Benny Hill.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:54:34am

re: #407 Sufficient unto the day…

What the fuck.

Yes, Tomi really is that dumb.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:57:52am

re: #411 Dr Lizardo

Yes, Tomi really is that dumb.

I want to know the procedure for impeaching someone who wasn’t elected. I have a few people in mind….

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 9:58:18am

re: #358 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reminder—Manafort’s pal Tad was running Bernie’s campaign!

I still find all of that suspicious. Bernie had some real sleaze going on with him and Jeff Weaver.

I’d like to see all of their tax returns.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:00:41am

re: #413 ObserverArt

I still find all of that suspicious. Bernie had some real sleaze going on with him and Jeff Weaver.

I’d like to see all of their tax returns.

Bernie also voted against Russia sanctions didn’t he?

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:01:21am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

That’s true but he’s also run a lot of other Democrats campaigns too that aren’t clueless af.

Yeah, but…the last election had outside influence to muck everything up or to outright keep Hillary from winning, and that certainly changes anything to do with his past.

Keeping Bernie funded and going on well after he should have packed it in will always make me wonder if that was all a part of it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:02:15am

re: #411 Dr Lizardo

Yes, Tomi really is that dumb.

Like that’s literally what impeachment is for. It’s for elected and appointed officials.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:03:03am

re: #415 ObserverArt

Yeah, but…the last election had outside influence to muck everything up or to outright keep Hillary from winning, and that certainly changes anything to do with his past.

Keeping Bernie funded and going on well after he should have packed it in will always make me wonder if that was all a part of it.

I don’t disagree. And like you id like to see the tax returns.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:04:23am

re: #417 HappyWarrior

I don’t disagree. And like you id like to see the tax returns.

You wouldn’t understand them….

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:05:19am

What is up with Tucker Carlson’s family??? I see references something happened, but I must have missed what it was.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:05:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:07:05am

my wifi router is named “Here Be Dragons”

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Sir John Barron  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:07:47am

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

he just loves a big mass shooting, the more deaths the better:

Except when it distracts from his scaremongering.

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:07:59am

Jennifer has some harsh words for Sarah Huckabee:

While I believe the press must continue to cover and attend news conferences when Trump is present, there is absolutely no reason to attend Sanders’s briefings, which do not import information but instead use the press as a forum to abuse and threaten reporters and spread misinformation. Sanders is not the news; the White House is the news. Reporters can cover their beats and obtain comment as necessary from Sanders without attending, let alone covering live, her (albeit rare) news briefings.

…after leaving office, she deserves none of the niceties normally accorded to others in her position. (In the past, we would have said that she has not earned the right to be included in polite society.) No responsible news outlet should hire her; employers making hiring decisions have every reason to shun her.

washingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:08:00am

re: #419 ObserverArt

What is up with Tucker Carlson’s family??? I see references something happened, but I must have missed what it was.

pestered by libtards at a restaurant

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:09:51am

re: #419 ObserverArt

What is up with Tucker Carlson’s family??? I see references something happened, but I must have missed what it was.

Ringing his doorbell & leaving bags of burning dog shit.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:11:28am

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

pestered by libtards at a restaurant

Actually, they went to his house.

A group of protesters reportedly affiliated with the anti-fascist group Smash Racism D.C. surrounded the home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night and shouted threatening messages, according to The Washington Post, which reviewed since-deleted videos and social media posts of the incident.

In one deleted video, the group was heard chanting, “Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!” In another video, a woman is heard saying she wanted to “bring a pipe bomb” to the house, according to the Post.

After one of the protesters slammed into the front door of Carlson’s home — causing it to crack — Carlson’s wife Susan Carlson locked herself in the kitchen pantry and called police, the Fox News personality told the Post. Carlson’s wife was home by herself at the time, as Carlson prepped for his 8 p.m. show. Police told the Post that about 20 people surrounded the home.

Still trying to work up a little sympathy…nope, not happening.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:11:29am

re: #355 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And - to what will, I am sure, be absolutely no one’s surprise, the Thousand Oaks shooter’s bloody spinout was a complete shock to the neighbors: (via L.A. Times)

Investigators knocked on doors of surrounding residents to find out what they may know about Long. One neighbor who knew Long said he was a veteran who suffered from PTSD. She said, “I don’t know what he was doing with a gun.”

Others said Long lived at the home with his mother. Richard Berge, a friend and neighbor Long’s mother, said Long’s mother was worried about her son.

“He wouldn’t get help,” Berge said.

Obviously an America-hating jihadi paid by Iran and George Soros….*

*

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ckkatz  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:11:55am

re: #195 wheat-dogg

Reading this thread calms me down some. Ms Rangappa is still expecting Whitaker to hold to normal lawyerly professionalism and the DOJ culture, which given the history of the thugs Trump has picked to serve under him may be wishful thinking. But she’s the expert, not I.

In a normal administration, ie, one committed to societal norms, the Constitution and the rule of law, I would agree with you and she. However, on this case, I respectfully disagree with her.

In her first tweet, she says “He must recuse” ? Every report I have seen states that he does not intend to recuse. And the rest of her thread keeps repeating should and must. For every point I keep missing where she says “or the following legal sanction _will_ occur”

In her next to last tweet, she argues that he is a Sessions loyalist. The reports I have seen argue that this is untrue.

A number of news reports detail his presence at DOJ as being considered a a White House spy, not a Sessions loyalist.

“More recently, having been installed in the Department of Justice, Whitaker has reportedly operated as a kind of White House spy to keep tab”
nymag.com

Her final tweet is that if he doesn’t follow her outline he is facing professional and legal ‘suicide’. Assuming the rule of law triumphs… Quite possibly. Certainly, based upon his actions and on news reports, he is taking a high risk bet that Trump will succeed over the rule of law.

My thoughts are that beyond doing what we are currently doing, there is much that is out of our direct hands. And a most important task is to take care of your self. This fight is likely to continue until November 2020.

I must admit that I am highly impressed with all the good work being done by the folks on this site! Thank You!

Edit - ‘Were are’ to ‘We are’

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garzooma  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:12:42am
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Ferdinand  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:13:07am

The Carlson harassment story is up on Talking Points Memo, with the video. Here’s their text:

A group of protesters reportedly affiliated with the anti-fascist group Smash Racism D.C. surrounded the home of Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night and shouted threatening messages, according to The Washington Post, which reviewed since-deleted videos and social media posts of the incident.
In one deleted video, the group was heard chanting, “Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!” In another video, a woman is heard saying she wanted to “bring a pipe bomb” to the house, according to the Post.
After one of the protesters slammed into the front door of Carlson’s home — causing it to crack — Carlson’s wife Susan Carlson locked herself in the kitchen pantry and called police, the Fox News personality told the Post. Carlson’s wife was home by herself at the time, as Carlson prepped for his 8 p.m. show. Police told the Post that about 20 people surrounded the home.
“It wasn’t a protest. It was a threat,” Carlson, who is often criticized for his inflammatory rhetoric, especially about immigrants and minorities, told the Post. “They weren’t protesting anything specific that I had said. They weren’t asking me to change anything. They weren’t protesting a policy or advocating for legislation. … They were threatening me and my family and telling me to leave my own neighborhood in the city that I grew up in.”
The protesters also reportedly posted Carlson’s home address, as well as the addresses of his brother and Daily Caller co-founder Neil Patel, on Twitter before their accounts were suspended.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:13:52am

After she leaves the White House, SHS will get a lifetime gig with Fox. Guranteed.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:13:53am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:14:13am

re: #426 makeitstop

Actually, they went to his house.

Still trying to work up a little sympathy…nope, not happening.

Also, because the rightwing propagandists absolutely brim with bad faith, I can’t help but wonder if this is a staged false flag until definitely proven otherwise.

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lawhawk  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:15:03am

The shooter is a Marine Corps veteran who had issues, including petty criminal acts but somehow managed to get honorably discharged:

Long, who apparently killed himself, was a Marine Corps veteran and was known to local law enforcement.

Ventura County Sheriff Geoff Dean said during a news conference Thursday morning that his department has had “several contacts with Mr. Long over the years” including minor events such as a traffic collision. Long was also the victim of battery at a local bar in 2015.

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In April, there was a troubling incident in which deputies were called to Long’s house after reports of a disturbance.

“They went to the house, they talked to him,” Dean said. “He was somewhat irate, acting a little irrationally.” Deputies called the crisis intervention team, and mental health specialist who met with Long. The specialist didn’t feel that Long qualified to be detained under 5150, the California law that allows for a 72-hour psychiatric evaluation if a person is deemed a danger to himself or others. Long was left at the scene at that time, the sheriff said.

Long served in the Marines from August 2008 until March 2013. A machine gunner who attained the rank of corporal, he served about seven months in Afghanistan, from November 2010 to June 2011. His last duty station was at Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii.

A U.S. official told NPR’s Tom Bowman that Long “was not a stellar Marine.” The official says Long received two infractions in 2009 for shoplifting at a post exchange. Long received an administrative punishment, but it wasn’t enough to force him from service and he was honorably discharged. Long received no personal awards aside from the Combat Action Ribbon, which is given to anyone who is fired on by the enemy or fires at the enemy.

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Skip Intro  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:15:21am

re: #431 Eclectic Cyborg

After she leaves the White House, SHS will get a lifetime gig with Fox. Guranteed.

Not with that face.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:15:23am

re: #433 Interesting Times

Also, because the rightwing propagandists absolutely brim with bad faith, I can’t help but wonder if this is a staged false flag until definitely proven otherwise.

stop the counterspin.

if this is the case, it is a case of overstep but nobody got shot or blown up as a result

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ckkatz  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:15:26am

re: #198 GlutenFreeJesus

RBG fell at the courthouse and broke 3 ribs too. What a day. Where was Brett? Did he push her down the steps? (Wish I was kidding)

My very first thought as well.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:16:05am

re: #432 makeitstop

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Amee took the tweet down for some reason.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:17:40am

I really hope Mueller has some indictments ready to drop soon.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:18:31am
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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:20:42am

re: #439 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope Mueller has some indictments ready to drop soon.

What are the chances that he slows his roll and waits for the Dem House to be seated?

There might be indictments, but I’m thinking maybe that report will take its time rolling out. With the Whitaker appointment, the obstruction is still ongoing.

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ckkatz  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:25:45am

re: #224 MsJ

I just mentioned that to my husband and he reminded me of what a profoundly terrible person Bragg was…Bragg as in the Fort.

In addition to Ft Bragg, there are also:

Fort Pickett
Fort AP Hill
Fort Lee (Yup, named after RE Lee)
Fort Benning
Fort Hood
Fort Gordon
Fort Polk
Fort Rucker
Camp Beauregard (Louisiana)

Hopefully this will be corrected.

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Belafon  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:26:10am

Approximately 31% of those 18-29 turned out to vote, the highest number in 25 years: politicalwire.com.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:26:13am

re: #263 HappyWarrior

Which is why I think he’d go all in with Kobach before Christie. But then again didn’t Trump want Christie to be his VP too? Either way, I don’t trust Trump to make a good pick for AG just like he proved when he made Sessions AG in the first place.

Christie may be a scumbag but AFAIK he’s not a racist or ideologue or theocrat. He’s knowledgeable about issues. I’d take him in a heartbeat over Giuliani for AG — or any other likely contender in the Trump world.

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ObserverArt  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:27:15am

re: #426 makeitstop

Actually, they went to his house.

Still trying to work up a little sympathy…nope, not happening.

re: #429 garzooma

Protesters Surround Carlson’s Home, Chant ‘We Know Where You Sleep At Night!’

Thanks for the links.

Tucker is going to milk that for a long long time, as will Fox and all kinds of wingnuts.

In some ways I wish they hadn’t done it for that reason, but then we are in a situation where people are growing desperate with the direction of this country and have no way to fight it, so acting out is their choice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:28:52am
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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:29:24am

re: #418 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You wouldn’t understand them….

(once again raises hand….)

wanna bet? ;-)

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:29:58am

re: #445 ObserverArt

Thanks for the links.

Tucker is going to milk that for a long long time, as will Fox and all kinds of wingnuts.

In some ways I wish they hadn’t done it for that reason, but then we are in a situation where people are growing desperate with the direction of this country and have no way to fight it, so acting out is their choice.

Wasn’t there a quote by JFK along the lines of ‘people who protest peacefully and are ignored will eventually stop protesting peacefully’?

We’re about there.

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:32:17am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:32:31am

re: #442 ckkatz

In addition to Ft Bragg, there are also:

Fort Pickett
Fort AP Hill
Fort Lee (Yup, named after RE Lee)
Fort Benning
Fort Hood
Fort Gordon
Fort Polk
Fort Rucker
Camp Beauregard (Louisiana)

Hopefully this will be corrected.

I can kind of see the motivation at the time for naming these Army camps after Generals from both sides, since we were (supposedly) all one country again—but why prize nincompoops like Braxton Bragg and John Bell Hood, to name two?

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:32:31am

re: #421 Backwoods_Sleuth

my wifi router is named “Here Be Dragons”

ours is ‘stabilized’

before there was a mrs dm, i had a disagreement with a former gf
i said the building out back was stables
she said i had a barn with stalls

it went downhill from there

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:32:44am

And on today’s episode of ‘This is Creepy AF’…

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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:33:54am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

stop the counterspin.

if this is the case, it is a case of overstep but nobody got shot or blown up as a result

Afraid I don’t understand what you’re saying here. My point is simply based on the rightwing’s history of DARVO and “accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of.”

- Alex Jones and all the others crying “false flag” re Sandy Hook etc
- Actual false flags like the infamous “B girl” from the 2008 election
- The latest idiocy from Jacob Wohl
- Earlier, similar stunt from O’Keefe, where he tried to cook up fake Roy Moore accusers to discredit the real ones

So given all that, I don’t believe it’s in the least bit unreasonable to wonder if these “protestors” were actually paid by some rightwing dark-money group to stage this stunt.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:35:43am

re: #423 BeachDem

Jennifer has some harsh words for Sarah Huckabee:

While I believe the press must continue to cover and attend news conferences when Trump is present, there is absolutely no reason to attend Sanders’s briefings, which do not import information but instead use the press as a forum to abuse and threaten reporters and spread misinformation. Sanders is not the news; the White House is the news. Reporters can cover their beats and obtain comment as necessary from Sanders without attending, let alone covering live, her (albeit rare) news briefings.

…after leaving office, she deserves none of the niceties normally accorded to others in her position. (In the past, we would have said that she has not earned the right to be included in polite society.) No responsible news outlet should hire her; employers making hiring decisions have every reason to shun her.

washingtonpost.com

while i dont disagree overall

sanders represents the admin
how she does that, compared to everyone who held the post before her sanders is news

though i guess, yes, once youve said it 10 or 20 times maybe that is enough

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:35:54am

re: #452 makeitstop

And on today’s episode of ‘This is Creepy AF’…

So IOW, a “real-life” Max Headroom?
And a Chinese one, at that!
Hopefully with a better-sync’ed voice track….

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jaunte  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:36:59am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:37:30am

re: #423 BeachDem

Jennifer has some harsh words for Sarah Huckabee:

While I believe the press must continue to cover and attend news conferences when Trump is present, there is absolutely no reason to attend Sanders’s briefings, which do not import information but instead use the press as a forum to abuse and threaten reporters and spread misinformation. Sanders is not the news; the White House is the news. Reporters can cover their beats and obtain comment as necessary from Sanders without attending, let alone covering live, her (albeit rare) news briefings.

…after leaving office, she deserves none of the niceties normally accorded to others in her position. (In the past, we would have said that she has not earned the right to be included in polite society.) No responsible news outlet should hire her; employers making hiring decisions have every reason to shun her.

washingtonpost.com

That is why she will end up on Fox News.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:38:38am

re: #453 Interesting Times

Afraid I don’t understand what you’re saying here. My point is simply based on the rightwing’s history of DARVO and “accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of.”

- Alex Jones and all the others crying “false flag” re Sandy Hook etc
- Actual false flags like the infamous “B girl” from the 2008 election
- The latest idiocy from Jacob Wohl
- Earlier, similar stunt from O’Keefe, where he tried to cook up fake Roy Moore accusers to discredit the real ones

So given all that, I don’t believe it’s in the least bit unreasonable to wonder if these “protestors” were actually paid by some rightwing dark-money group to stage this stunt.

It is worth looking into, but I shy away from false flag conspiracy theories in general…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:38:42am

re: #453 Interesting Times

Afraid I don’t understand what you’re saying here. My point is simply based on the rightwing’s history of DARVO and “accuse the other side of that which you are guilty of.”

- Alex Jones and all the others crying “false flag” re Sandy Hook etc
- Actual false flags like the infamous “B girl” from the 2008 election
- The latest idiocy from Jacob Wohl
- Earlier, similar stunt from O’Keefe, where he tried to cook up fake Roy Moore accusers to discredit the real ones

So given all that, I don’t believe it’s in the least bit unreasonable to wonder if these “protestors” were actually paid by some rightwing dark-money group to stage this stunt.

What the protestors were supposed to have said just sounds…off. Not “Acid is groovy” off, but off. Right-wingers have a hard time grasping how normal people talk. Just saying.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:39:47am

re: #441 makeitstop

What are the chances that he slows his roll and waits for the Dem House to be seated?

There might be indictments, but I’m thinking maybe that report will take its time rolling out. With the Whitaker appointment, the obstruction is still ongoing.

im not sure what the mechanics were of announcing it
a memo? a leak? or?

in any event it was a smart move
try and axe the investigation after it says its summing up and ready to deliver..
so there could be some breathing room

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:40:01am

re: #429 garzooma

Protesters Surround Carlson’s Home, Chant ‘We Know Where You Sleep At Night!’

Yea, this is wrong, but Tucker Carlson is a fascist, so it comes with the territory.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:40:30am

re: #448 makeitstop

Wasn’t there a quote by JFK along the lines of ‘people who protest peacefully and are ignored will eventually stop protesting peacefully’?

We’re about there.

I am still uncomfortable with threatening the family; Tucker Carlson is a vicious little man but it does not seem right to attack the family too. We don’t want to create another Hodgkinson, who decides to take it on himself to murder people in our cause.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:42:36am

re: #462 Hecuba’s daughter

I am still uncomfortable with threatening the family; Tucker Carlson is a vicious little man but it does not seem right to attack the family too. We don’t want to create another Hodgkinson, who decides to take it on himself to murder people in our cause.

I cannot rule out “false flag” but it needs more looking into

because, seriously, it would be irresponsible to make such unfounded claims

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:42:39am
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Interesting Times  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:43:16am

re: #462 Hecuba’s daughter

I am still uncomfortable with threatening the family; Tucker Carlson is a vicious little man but it does not seem right to attack the family too.

That’s why I’m saying false flag until proven otherwise - it’s the right that has the sleazy, creepy history of targeting family (e.g. Cesar Sayoc googling things like “Elizabeth Warren kids” and all the trumpchump neo-nazis who photoshopped people in gas chambers)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:44:00am

re: #464 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

wasn’t there an amazon series about a bunch of congressmen sharing a house in DC, why not do an ALL-GIRL REALITY SHOW version of it?

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Weaselone  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:45:07am

re: #466 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

wasn’t there an amazon series about a bunch of congressmen sharing a house, why not do an ALL-GIRL REALITY SHOW version of it?

The Socialist, the Senator and the Speaker?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:45:35am

re: #444 Hecuba’s daughter

Christie may be a scumbag but AFAIK he’s not a racist or ideologue or theocrat. He’s knowledgeable about issues. I’d take him in a heartbeat over Giuliani for AG — or any other likely contender in the Trump world.

The least worst option.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:48:52am

re: #467 Weaselone

The Socialist, the Senator and the Speaker?

Nancy’s Angels!

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:49:03am

re: #464 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shane Goldmacher

@ShaneGoldmacher
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, currently without an income, needs to wait until her congressional salary kicks in to get a DC apartment.

“I’ve really been just kind of squirreling away and then hoping that gets me to January,” she tells @Azi. nytimes.com

11:31 AM - Nov 8, 2018

This is a real disgrace — a person of modest means who is elected to office should have access to affordable living quarters in Washington DC

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Charles Johnson  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:49:14am
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ipsos  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:51:24am

Meanwhile in Georgia…

My sister’s best friend lives in Forsyth County, one of the exurban ring counties around metro Atlanta. Just found out last night that her friend went to vote near the end of the day and was in line at 7 when the polls closed.

The friend says the poll workers told the people in line they had to go home (!) and wouldn’t be allowed to vote (!!) and so she left (!!!) without voting.

“She’s not the brightest bulb,” says my sister about her friend.

And yes, she would have been a Stacey Abrams voter.

Multiply that by how many polling places across Georgia, and how many votes that should have been cast were never cast, and thus won’t be captured in any theoretical recount?

This makes me so angry. We KNOW how to make elections run smoothly. Up here in western New York, there’s rarely any line at all to vote. We have a half-dozen precincts that all vote in the auditorium of our town hall (one of a dozen polling places around our town of 20,000 or so). You go to the table of your precinct, the nice old ladies look you up, you sign your name, you get your ballot and you go to one of the kiosks where you fill in the circles with the felt-tip pen. Then you go to one of three or four scanners and run the ballot through the hole. I was in and out in under five minutes and would have been quicker if I hadn’t run into a high school friend on the way out and chatted for a bit.

Five-hour lines for voting are a choice that election administrators make. We need a national standard. This is ridiculous.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:52:23am

See, naming it that (Camp Fire) is just going to confuse the shit out of Trump
“Why can’t the DEMO-RATS in California just PUT IT OUT ? ? ? It’s only a CAMP FIRE ! ! !

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:55:54am

re: #472 ipsos

Meanwhile in Georgia…

My sister’s best friend lives in Forsyth County, one of the exurban ring counties around metro Atlanta. Just found out last night that her friend went to vote near the end of the day and was in line at 7 when the polls closed.

The friend says the poll workers told the people in line they had to go home (!) and wouldn’t be allowed to vote (!!) and so she left (!!!) without voting.

“She’s not the brightest bulb,” says my sister about her friend.

And yes, she would have been a Stacey Abrams voter.

Multiply that by how many polling places across Georgia, and how many votes that should have been cast were never cast, and thus won’t be captured in any theoretical recount?

This makes me so angry. We KNOW how to make elections run smoothly. Up here in western New York, there’s rarely any line at all to vote. We have a half-dozen precincts that all vote in the auditorium of our town hall (one of a dozen polling places around our town of 20,000 or so). You go to the table of your precinct, the nice old ladies look you up, you sign your name, you get your ballot and you go to one of the kiosks where you fill in the circles with the felt-tip pen. Then you go to one of three or four scanners and run the ballot through the hole. I was in and out in under five minutes and would have been quicker if I hadn’t run into a high school friend on the way out and chatted for a bit.

Five-hour lines for voting are a choice that election administrators make. We need a national standard. This is ridiculous.

you show up in line before closing time you get to vote

no one loses their franchise because the BOARDS OF ELECTIONS/ADMINISTRATORS intentionally or incompetently screwed up the planning and execution of voting day

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:56:32am

re: #472 ipsos

Meanwhile in Georgia…

My sister’s best friend lives in Forsyth County, one of the exurban ring counties around metro Atlanta. Just found out last night that her friend went to vote near the end of the day and was in line at 7 when the polls closed.

The friend says the poll workers told the people in line they had to go home (!) and wouldn’t be allowed to vote (!!) and so she left (!!!) without voting….

Isn’t this illegal and could it serve as a basis for invalidating the election?

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:57:13am

and for no reason at all:

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 8, 2018 • 10:58:26am

re: #475 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t this illegal and could it serve as a basis for invalidating the election?

Yes and I doubt it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:00:30am

re: #474 dangerman

you show up in line before closing time you get to vote

no one loses their franchise because the BOARDS OF ELECTIONS/ADMINISTRATORS intentionally or incompetently screwed up the planning and execution of voting day

Unless one proves otherwise, this is not incompetence, it’s malice and a deliberate attempt to suppress the vote. This is what Kemp has been doing all along — and the only fair solution is a do-over, with voting rights restored to all those illegitimately purged from the voting register.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:04:23am

Estimates say that the fire is growing at the rate of 80 football fields per minute.

That’s insane.

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ipsos  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:06:34am

re: #477 Big Beautiful Door

Yes and I doubt it.

Her friend would have to have some evidence, and I doubt she was taking pictures or recording video, which I would have done - but then, I know my rights, and you know yours…but not all voters do, obviously.

I wonder how many other voters who were in line also gave up and left, and I wonder if it was an actual election official who told them to leave, or some ratfucker trying to make trouble.

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piratedan  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:07:09am

re: #461 Big Beautiful Door

I’m sure that Rupert could withstand losing Tucker as a casualty of a collateral basis in the Culture Wars…

To be honest, I really don’t like it when people decide to bring home to these fascists the by-product of what they’ve been sowing, because I like to think our side is better than that, that we can reason and understand and seethe without resorting to violence to achieve our aims but do I understand it, fuck yes I do because what these people are doing every fucking day by selling these falsehoods is perpetuating our issues (and they’re damn difficult enough to solve without all of this shit, tyvm) by creating yet more issues and dividing us further.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:07:22am

re: #478 Hecuba’s daughter

Unless one proves otherwise, this is not incompetence, it’s malice and a deliberate attempt to suppress the vote. This is what Kemp has been doing all along — and the only fair solution is a do-over, with voting rights restored to all those illegitimately purged from the voting register.

agreed

(i did say intentionally too) ;-)

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ckkatz  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:11:38am

re: #450 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I can kind of see the motivation at the time for naming these Army camps after Generals from both sides, since we were (supposedly) all one country again—but why prize nincompoops like Braxton Bragg and John Bell Hood, to name two?

Yup, that fort naming is a relic from the World War 1 era (1918) when the south was being welcomed back into the nation. Most of these camps in World War 1 served local National Guard and draftee units.

Bragg was a corps commander in the final 1865 campaigns in the Carolinas. I suspect that is why the Fort was named after him. Probably with a lot of local political support.

And yes, he was definitely a military nincampoop. (technical term) My favorite wiki quote about him is:
“Bragg is generally considered among the worst generals of the Civil War. Although his commands often outnumbered those he fought against, most of the battles in which he engaged ended in defeats. “

en.wikipedia.org

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:12:23am

re: #478 Hecuba’s daughter

Unless one proves otherwise, this is not incompetence, it’s malice and a deliberate attempt to suppress the vote. This is what Kemp has been doing all along — and the only fair solution is a do-over, with voting rights restored to all those illegitimately purged from the voting register.

It would be amusing if (much as we like to rag on third parties) some gomer pulled in just enough votes to pull Kemp down to 50% - 1 so there has to be a runoff, which he will not supervise and will be under a national looking glass.

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:14:51am

I could live with this guy as the standard bearer.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:16:06am

re: #443 Belafon

Approximately 31% of those 18-29 turned out to vote, the highest number in 25 years: politicalwire.com.

My youngest was one of them. And he was excited to vote for the first time.

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ckkatz  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:16:07am

re: #444 Hecuba’s daughter

Christie may be a scumbag but AFAIK he’s not a racist or ideologue or theocrat. He’s knowledgeable about issues. I’d take him in a heartbeat over Giuliani for AG — or any other likely contender in the Trump world.

I’m thinking that all these names, like Kobach and Christie, being floated for AG are from the candidates themselves. (Ie Kobach and Christie)

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:16:51am

cnn

A federal appeals court Thursday upheld a ruling blocking the Trump administration from ending the Obama-era program that protects young undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children from being deported.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:17:42am

If you were making popcorn for the Florida recount, you had better get on Amazon and order another truckload.
It’s gonna be a while

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:17:53am

Incontrovertible proof that Sarah Sanders uploaded a doctored video of Jim Acosta to justify banning him. The White House Press Secretary is literally pushing overt disinformation from InfoWars.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:18:23am

re: #445 ObserverArt

Thanks for the links.

Tucker is going to milk that for a long long time, as will Fox and all kinds of wingnuts.

In some ways I wish they hadn’t done it for that reason, but then we are in a situation where people are growing desperate with the direction of this country and have no way to fight it, so acting out is their choice.

But that kind of behavior is totally acceptable outside of an abortion clinic directed at an already stressed women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:18:35am

re: #481 piratedan

I’m sure that Rupert could withstand losing Tucker as a casualty of a collateral basis in the Culture Wars…

To be honest, I really don’t like it when people decide to bring home to these fascists the by-product of what they’ve been sowing, because I like to think our side is better than that, that we can reason and understand and seethe without resorting to violence to achieve our aims but do I understand it, fuck yes I do because what these people are doing every fucking day by selling these falsehoods is perpetuating our issues (and they’re damn difficult enough to solve without all of this shit, tyvm) by creating yet more issues and dividing us further.

“our side” isn’t doing this. I don’t know who it is, but it’s not “our side”. We can condemn it without being forced to take ownership of it.

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dangerman  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:19:02am

re: #487 ckkatz

I’m thinking that all these names, like Kobach and Christie, being floated for AG are from the candidates themselves. (Ie Kobach and Christie)

and we end up with pam bondi who has already been vetted as willing to take a bribe

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:20:39am

re: #486 Eventual Carrion

My youngest was one of them. And he was excited to vote for the first time.

31% turnout is still pukingly awful for a national election, if an off-year one considering the real civil war currently going on this very minute. It is literally going to take sending the 18-29yr demo off to war in N Korea or Iran for the ramifications to hit home and become real enough to get them off their asses.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:21:29am

re: #492 Backwoods_Sleuth

“our side” isn’t doing this. I don’t know who it is, but it’s not “our side”. We can condemn it without being forced to take ownership of it.

We push back in the media, even in public places, but surrounding his house and shouting threats is unacceptable behavior, regardless of what an asshole he is.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:21:44am
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MsJ  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:22:39am

re: #317 Teukka

MsJoanne, sorry to steal your limelight, but this one was good, k?

No problem! Steal away!

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:31:11am

re: #400 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Is that Wormtongue with them?

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makeitstop  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:31:37am

I’m starting to believe that yesterday’s confrontation with Acosta was a setup.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:32:00am

I read that the shooter in the Thousand Oaks mass shooting killed an armed police officer, and then before SWAT could breach, had killed himself. SO it seems in this case the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a bad guy with a gun.

Oh, and it’s now Too Soon to talk about gun control again. Everyone remember to set your watches to Too Soon o’clock.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr……………

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:33:00am

re: #401 Eventual Carrion

My last WiFi broadcast SSID was “Fuck Off”. This current one I just left it broadcasting the numbers it was pre-set with.

Mine is “Demonreach” because I’m a Harry Dresden fan.

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sagehen  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:34:33am

re: #466 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

wasn’t there an amazon series about a bunch of congressmen sharing a house in DC, why not do an ALL-GIRL REALITY SHOW version of it?

Which was based on the real-life roommates George Miller (CA), Dick Durbin (IL) and Chuck Schumer (NY) — but after Miller retired in 2014 and sold the house, Durbin and Schumer each got themselves a one-bedroom apt of their own.

You know what would be gracious for Alexandria? If the Congressman she beat in the primary lets her crash on his couch for a few months, and lets her share his office. Maybe some of his staff will stay on with her, especially the folks at the district office who do constituent services…

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:34:43am

re: #496 goddamnedfrank

NYTimes nationwide House recap still only shows 230 Dem seats: D- 225 R-197 with 13 races still uncalled (CA-25 among them). At the moment.

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Jay C  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:39:30am

re: #503 Jay C

NYTimes nationwide House recap still only shows 230 Dem seats: D- 225 R-197 with 13 races still uncalled (CA-25 among them). At the moment.

Aaaah, “Coolered” again!

Any pools on the final breakdown of the House? I’m thinking 234-201 D/R.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:39:36am

re: #420 makeitstop

Every time I see Whitaker I think, “Vincent D’onofrio playing Kingpin on the Daredevil TV series is the interim Attorney General? Man, we are living in an alternate reality.”

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:48:01am

re: #449 jaunte

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood! /s

Although people like Blackburn believe it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:49:26am

re: #506 Romantic Heretic

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with blood! /s

Although people like Blackburn believe it.

The Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of college students, this time.

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William Lewis  Nov 8, 2018 • 11:50:57am

re: #501 Romantic Heretic

Mine is “Demonreach” because I’m a Harry Dresden fan.

Mine is “Turtleon” - turtle-leon kind of wierd naming that my son, when much younger, named my house when he would visit and it would be a turtle space ship commanded by my stuffed turtle toy from when I was a little boy (I’ve had it since I was 4 years old ;) .

His bedroom remains the Pingueon (penguin leon) for the same reason as his spirit critter is Penguins. His is commanded by this half duck/platypus looking stuffy that’s still his best friend.

As an aside, if I ever were to make a rock album, the band name will be the “Penguin Air Force” from all this as well :D I need to find an artist to draw me a Penguin flying a P-40E someday < VBG >

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BeachDem  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:03:56pm

re: #505 Romantic Heretic

Every time I see Whitaker I think, “Vincent D’onofrio playing Kingpin on the Daredevil TV series is the interim Attorney General? Man, we are living in an alternate reality.”

Lucky you—every time I see him, I think of (not) Joe the (not) Plumber.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:14:26pm

Absolute bullshit that’s utterly impossible for insurers to comply with.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 8, 2018 • 12:19:10pm

re: #510 goddamnedfrank

Absolute bullshit that’s utterly impossible for insurers to comply with.

Feel the economic anxiety.


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