Some More News: America’s Elections, Trump’s Press Abuse, Tucker Carlson’s Protest Lies, and More [VIDEO]

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Covering the day after the midterm elections means talking about election results, the president deciding to be a huge jackass to everybody and then banning a journalist, the president forcing his Attorney General to resign in order to further obstruct justice, a mass shooting, an enormous forest fire, and a white nationalist propagandist lying about protesters at his home. It was… a day.

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1
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:41:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:42:19am

the fear is palpable

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:44:41am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

back story

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:46:04am

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:46:35am

For some reason my brain parsed part of the headline as “Tucker Carlson’s Arrest Files” and I got really excited for a second.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:47:45am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:48:39am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Serving in the Trump White House - Such a fucking honor that almost no one wants to do it except SHS and maybe Sean Hannity.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:48:56am

I gotta say, I agree wholeheartedly with AOC on this one…

Too many states and cities are letting these big companies steamroll them.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:49:53am

All the wine comments in the last thread, I just have to toss this in. Do not forget fly-over country you damn uppity coastal people.

Lake Erie region and even other parts of Ohio have been making good wines for some time.

There is even the native Catawba grape.

By the way, I’m not much of a wine lover…but those I know say Ohio wines are pretty damn good.

vinepair.com - AMERICA’S FIRST FAMOUS WINE WAS MADE IN OHIO. IN THE 1840S

Among things you didn’t know about Ohio: it’s the first city in the states to have police cars. It has an alley dedicated to Dave Grohl. And it’s the birthplace of Teri Garr, Stephen Spielberg, and Charles Manson.

It’s also America’s first successful wine-making region. California may dominate these days, and they may have won the 1976 Judgment of Paris (basically slapping the beret right off France’s very regal-looking face), but Ohio was the first American state to gain international wine street cred—in a typically unlikely American fashion.

So next time you veer right to the California section of your wine store, just remember, the Father of the American Wine Industry was a kid from Newark, living the dream in Ohio.

“There grows no vine
By the haunted Rhine,
By Danube or Guadalquivir,
Nor on island or cape,
That bears such a grape
As grows by the Beautiful River.”

- from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow’s “Ode to Catawba Wine”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:51:32am

re: #9 ObserverArt

And if you ever get to the Canadian side of the lakes, Niagara wine country is worth the trip.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:51:44am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

What is this latest “White House deserves respect” crap?

This is something else Trump broke. It used to be that even if you didn’t respect the person holding the office, you could respect the office as an institution. But Trump has so thoroughly damaged the office as an institution, it’s hard to even do that.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:52:59am

re: #4 Kragar

“Mr. President, the space under every question is still blank.”
“So. I fired Sessions and appointed a new guy who said he’d make all this go away.”
“…”

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:53:00am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:53:00am

re: #11 KGxvi

This is something else Trump broke. It used to be that even if you didn’t respect the person holding the office, you could respect the office as an institution. But Trump has so thoroughly damaged the office as an institution, it’s hard to even do that.

They’ve made a mockery of the office for sure.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:53:48am

re: #13 Kragar

Is this different than “executive time”?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:53:48am

re: #13 Kragar

“But if he’s good, he can watch Hannity and have ice cream for dinner.”///

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:55:02am

re: #9 ObserverArt

All the wine comments in the last thread, I just have to toss this in. Do not forget fly-over country you damn uppity coastal people.

Lake Erie region and even other parts of Ohio have been making good wines for some time.

There is even the native Catawba grape.

By the way, I’m not much of a wine lover…but those I know say Ohio wines are pretty damn good.

vinepair.com - AMERICA’S FIRST FAMOUS WINE WAS MADE IN OHIO. IN THE 1840S

I have fond memories of the wineries on Middle Bass Island/Put-in-Bay

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:55:22am

re: #15 Sir John Barron

Is this different than “executive time”?

Executive time is when they let him sign documents he doesn’t understand.

Policy time is when they break out the pop up books and sock puppets to explain how things work.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:58:58am

re: #8 KGxvi

I gotta say, I agree wholeheartedly with AOC on this one…

Too many states and cities are letting these big companies steamroll them.

I saw some videos of people in both locations worried about rising costs of housing and displacement.

Columbus was in the running, but we do already have two Amazon fulfillment centers/warehouses here, along with some offices and an Amazon store downtown.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:59:41am

re: #8 KGxvi

Cities and states were flinging billions to a company worth a trillion dollars - so they could avoid paying taxes for decades to come all for the benefit of siting a major facility there for a period of time. NY/NYC would be spending roughly $48,000 per job assuming 20,000 jobs were actually being created.

All the while, the company adds to the strain on infrastructure, including mass transit, where $1.5 billion could help get to a state of good repair.

So yeah, people are pissed. They’re also scared that they’ll be priced out of the area and have no where else to go. They’re worried that the jobs wont go to those already living in the community, but to folks from elsewhere.

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plansbandc  Nov 13, 2018 • 11:59:56am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

New Mexico produces some excellent wine also.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:00:50pm

re: #19 ObserverArt

I saw some videos of people in both locations worried about rising costs of housing and displacement.

Columbus was in the running, but we do already have two Amazon fulfillment centers/warehouses here, along with some offices and an Amazon store downtown.

Right. Arlington where Crystal City is already pretty pricey. I’m interested in seeing what this does but AOC’s concerns are definitely legit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:01:03pm

re: #21 plansbandc

New Mexico produces some excellent wine also.

Did not know that.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:04:09pm

re: #21 plansbandc

New Mexico produces some excellent wine also.

Oregon and Washington, too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:04:57pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

Oregon and Washington, too.

They also do beer really well.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:06:02pm

re: #13 Kragar

White House creates “policy time” for Trump to encourage work

A fucking toddler. We have a fucking toddler sitting in the Big Chair.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:06:39pm

HEY ART!

there’s lots more info in her TL

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:06:40pm

re: #12 Sir John Barron

“Mr. President, the space under every question is still blank.”
“So. I fired Sessions and appointed a new guy who said he’d make all this go away.”
“…”

“Sir, you didn’t answer any of the questions on this page.”
“Sure I did, it’s on the back.”
[Lawyer flips paper over and scrawled on the back in red ink it reads: NO COLLUSION!]

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:06:53pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

All the wine comments in the last thread, I just have to toss this in. Do not forget fly-over country you damn uppity coastal people.

Lake Erie region and even other parts of Ohio have been making good wines for some time.

There is even the native Catawba grape.

By the way, I’m not much of a wine lover…but those I know say Ohio wines are pretty damn good.

vinepair.com - AMERICA’S FIRST FAMOUS WINE WAS MADE IN OHIO. IN THE 1840S

Brings back memories of serious puking after spending days at the Put In Bay Winery…Misty water-colored memories of the way we were (drunk and stupid!)

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:06:58pm

Happy Warrior, if you didn’t see my back up of the 60% vote with Trump for Kyrsten Sinema in the last thread here is a Link.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:07:28pm

re: #19 ObserverArt

Newark NJ was in the final running as well, and the city/state were throwing nearly $6 billion to land it (assuming single HQ). That’s bugnuts insanity given the needs to the rest of the state.

$6 billion could build out a 5 track Portal Bridge, which suffered problems last week, and had a tugboat hit one of the support structures this morning, causing massive delays across the NEC. That obsolete infrastructure services more than 450 trains every day. Those trains carry ~800 people each. So yeah, we’re talking 360,000 every single day.

The economic impact of that single improvement project would have benefits across entire region. Instead, everyone wants to line the pockets of a company already worth a trillion dollars.

I get it though - everyone wants to show that they’re for creating jobs.

Too bad the economic development incentives from these never get repaid (that’s the point - states forgo the tax revenues, and don’t care because the politicians got the “jobs”, which often never get created to the extent and states fail to provide sufficient clawback provisions when the companies fail to create jobs promised).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:07:45pm

re: #30 ObserverArt

Happy Warrior, if you didn’t see my back up of the 60% vote with Trump for Kyrsten Sinema in the last thread here is a Link.

I did. Thanks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:08:06pm

re: #13 Kragar

The White House is trying to encourage the President to do his job.

The White House is trying to convince the President of the United States to DO HIS FUCKING JOB!

Trump fiddled while California burned.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:08:16pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

HEY ART!

there’s lots more info in her TL

Whoa…I’ve been wondering if anything was going on in that case. That family has been suspected for some time.

Thanks for the heads-up.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:08:42pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

Willamette Valley and Yakima Valley wines are excellent.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:09:16pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have fond memories of the wineries on Middle Bass Island/Put-in-Bay

GMT(and D for drink)A—I’m just a little slower on the uptake. (see 29)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:09:19pm

re: #31 lawhawk

Newark NJ was in the final running as well, and the city/state were throwing nearly $6 billion to land it (assuming single HQ). That’s bugnuts insanity given the needs to the rest of the state.

$6 billion could build out a 5 track Portal Bridge, which suffered problems last week, and had a tugboat hit one of the support structures this morning, causing massive delays across the NEC. That obsolete infrastructure services more than 450 trains every day. Those trains carry ~800 people each. So yeah, we’re talking 360,000 every single day.

The economic impact of that single improvement project would have benefits across entire region. Instead, everyone wants to line the pockets of a company already worth a trillion dollars.

I get it though - everyone wants to show that they’re for creating jobs.

Too bad the economic development incentives from these never get repaid (that’s the point - states forgo the tax revenues, and don’t care because the politicians got the “jobs”, which often never get created to the extent and states fail to provide sufficient clawback provisions when the companies fail to create jobs promised).

It sounds to me analogous to expensive sports arenas & stadiums and how that’s sold as a net boom when it’s not.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:09:26pm

re: #13 Kragar

White House creates “policy time” for Trump to encourage work bit.ly

previous administrations called this “the work day”

actually previous administrations didnt have to call this anything

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:09:53pm

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

Glad to see there’s apparently been a breakthrough in that case. I’ve seen it turn up from time to time on cold case websites.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:10:08pm

re: #38 dangerman

previous administrations called this “the work day”

actually previous administrations didnt have to call this anything

It was just the President doing his job.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:10:55pm

The very best of the best people.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:12:10pm

re: #35 lawhawk

Willamette Valley and Yakima Valley wines are excellent.

Definitely.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:12:56pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Correctamundo!

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:13:03pm

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

The very best of the best people.

Man, how fucking corrupt do you have to be to get indicted in Alabama?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:13:08pm

AOC seems to be the new punching bag for the SM- SHTTUCoA- Smug holier than thou ultra capitalist assholes of America.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:14:04pm

re: #38 dangerman

previous administrations called this “the work day”

actually previous administrations didnt have to call this anything

Yeah, it’s called work. Doing the job. Working. Fulfilling the obligations of the Office of the Presidency.

Instead, under Trumpworld, they divide it into adult day care, twitter time, and “policy” time.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:14:45pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Correctamundo!

Yeah I was thinking about the sports owners who insist It’s a great investment guys but it’s actually a net loss for the communities in the area around the arena/stadium.

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Jay C  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:15:47pm

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

And if you ever get to the Canadian side of the lakes, Niagara wine country is worth the trip.

True. Honeymooning in Niagara Falls some years back*, we went exploring the hinterland, and found this place: Inniskilling Winery: where the nice folks (Canadian, what would one expect?) explained that their land was in a sheltered microclimate zone that enabled them to grow numerous cold-weather-tolerant varieties of grapes. Though they did admit that one of their specialties, eiswein (wine concentrated by freezing) was NOT frozen on the vine….

*yes, it still happens

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:16:12pm

re: #46 lawhawk

Yeah, it’s called work. Doing the job. Working. Fulfilling the obligations of the Office of the Presidency.

Instead, under Trumpworld, they divide it into adult day care, twitter time, and “policy” time.

Is there a nappy time too? Because sometimes it seems he gets awfully cranky and needs a time out to chill and get in a nap to reset for the next round of crankiness.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:16:27pm
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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:16:59pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Yeah I was thinking about the sports owners who insist It’s a great investment guys but it’s actually a net loss for the communities in the area around the arena/stadium.

Hey, let’s get some cash strapped cities to spend a half a billion dollars to build a sports stadium/arena that is used only a handful of days a year so a billionaire owner can have a swanky new facility with more skyboxes and luxury seating and not have to share with anyone else, including the localities on gate/receipts, etc.

And if you don’t like my deal, I’ll move the team somewhere else.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:17:59pm

re: #31 lawhawk

Newark NJ was in the final running as well, and the city/state were throwing nearly $6 billion to land it (assuming single HQ). That’s bugnuts insanity given the needs to the rest of the state.

$6 billion could build out a 5 track Portal Bridge, which suffered problems last week, and had a tugboat hit one of the support structures this morning, causing massive delays across the NEC. That obsolete infrastructure services more than 450 trains every day. Those trains carry ~800 people each. So yeah, we’re talking 360,000 every single day.

The economic impact of that single improvement project would have benefits across entire region. Instead, everyone wants to line the pockets of a company already worth a trillion dollars.

I get it though - everyone wants to show that they’re for creating buying jobs.

Too bad the economic development incentives from these never get repaid (that’s the point - states forgo the tax revenues, and don’t care because the politicians got the “jobs”, which often never get created to the extent and states fail to provide sufficient clawback provisions when the companies fail to create jobs promised).

the rest is spot on

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:18:47pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

I’m assuming that’s Brad Pitt from Burn After Reading?

That’s an underrated movie - and funny as all hell.

Burn After Reading (2008) - Funny blackmail phone conversation scene

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:19:38pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

The White House is trying to encourage the President to do his job.

The White House is trying to convicnd the President of the United States to DO HIS FUCKING JOB!

Trump fiddled while California burned.

the white house is trying to make it appear the president* is working

i’d take any odds he has never read a briefing book or policy memo

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:19:46pm
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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:20:36pm

re: #48 Jay C

Inniskillin winery makes great ice wines - most freeze the grapes artificially but a handful of wineries do make at least some of the ice wines the old fashioned way.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:21:21pm

re: #51 lawhawk

Hey, let’s get some cash strapped cities to spend a half a billion dollars to build a sports stadium/arena that is used only a handful of days a year so a billionaire owner can have a swanky new facility with more skyboxes and luxury seating and not have to share with anyone else, including the localities on gate/receipts, etc.

And if you don’t like my deal, I’ll move the team somewhere else.

Exactly seems the case here. As I said I’m interested in seeing how this works out for CC because I’m in Arlington fairly frequently but this merits skepticism.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:22:35pm

re: #46 lawhawk

Yeah, it’s called work. Doing the job. Working. Fulfilling the obligations of the Office of the Presidency.

Instead, under Trumpworld, they divide it into adult day care, twitter time, and “policy” time.

there’s also that creepy sexy time someone tweeted the other day
for which we still dont know the code word (and dont wanna)

i still suggest cross referencing his calendar with melania’s whereabouts for those entries

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:22:39pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

Shocker calling your neighbors cucks and race traitors doesn’t make friends! Maybe you can move to bumfuck, rightwingistan.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:22:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:25:45pm

re: #53 lawhawk

I’m assuming that’s Brad Pitt from Burn After Reading?

That’s an underrated movie - and funny as all hell.

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One of my favorite Coen films.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:27:12pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

Is there a nappy time too? Because sometimes it seems he gets awfully cranky and needs a time out to chill and get in a nap to reset for the next round of crankiness.

LBJ used to nap regularly as president, but he also worked a “double shift”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:27:16pm

re: #60 Dave In Austin

Her name triggers so many people into a flying rage. Left, right, & libertarian. Too bad for them she’s smarter than them and actually has accomplishments in public life.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:27:25pm

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

The White House is trying to encourage the President to do his job.

The White House is trying to convince the President of the United States to DO HIS FUCKING JOB!

Trump fiddled while California burned.

“What about my rally time? Can I go back to FL to campaign against Bill Nelson?”

“I’m sorry, Mr. President, we just have so much to do here.”

“That’s right, YOU have much to do here. What do I pay you people for anyway?”

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:29:49pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

Shocker calling your neighbors cucks and race traitors doesn’t make friends! Maybe you can move to bumfuck, rightwingistan.

He should just move to Eastern Europe or Russia where he doesn’t have to worry about pesky darker peoples. The U.S. is becoming more racially diverse so I don’t know how he’s going to handle things in a couple decades.

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Kragar  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:32:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:32:29pm

re: #65 Patricia Kayden

He should just move to Eastern Europe or Russia where he doesn’t have to worry about pesky darker peoples. The U.S. is becoming more racially diverse so I don’t know how he’s going to handle things in a couple decades.

I’d rather my cousins in EE not deal with him. :) But he can leave already.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:33:24pm

re: #66 Kragar

That escalated quickly. You should probably lie low Mira.//

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:36:23pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

Best part of that Daily Beast story on McInnes is this…’This guy’s a jerk.’

And that was from a right leaning neighbor.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:37:39pm

Something is missing here.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:37:41pm

re: #69 ObserverArt

Best part of that Daily Beast story on McInnes is this…’This guy’s a jerk.’

And that was from a right leaning neighbor.

He really is even by right wing asshole standards. He’s going to be even more miserable when his proud boys leave their Peter Pan.

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Ferdinand  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:38:23pm

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

Oregon and Washington, too.

Having lived in Santa Fe for 15 years, and Denver for 3, I know about the NM (and Colorado western slope) wine regions and festivals and such. Having moved to Washington last year, I’m only vaguely aware of the wine scene up here on the Puget. My wife and I have dived headlong in to the local food and herb scene first. Mushrooms, lavender, ganja, blackberries, shellfish, seafood. Oh my!

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Kilroy was here  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:38:25pm

re: #66 Kragar

Mira Ricardel assumed her position on May 15, 2018.
Guess she didn’t make it past her six month probation period.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:38:45pm

Today, we gathered for Christmas, a holiday observed by Muslims, Hindus, and Jews throughout the United States & around the world.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:39:15pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

It’s so strange to see things on social media from this administration that are just… normal.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:40:09pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

That escalated quickly. You should probably lie low Mira.//

I wonder what Bolton thinks of all of this?

Will he kiss Trump’s ass or stick up for his No. 2?

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:40:12pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

Unlike her husband (McInnes), Emily said she is a Democrat.

“I myself am Native American with a full blood mother who grew up fully immersed in our tribe, speaking our traditional language,” she said. “I would never accept racism to surround me in my own life.”

You should maybe get a divorce lawyer on the phone, then, lady.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:40:15pm

re: #75 KGxvi

It’s so strange to see things on social media from this administration that are just… normal.

No cap letter or accusing someone of lying or grandiose bragging. Guess we know who didn’t write this.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:41:10pm

Today, we gathered for Hanukkah, a holiday observed by Christians, Muslims, and Sikhs throughout the United States & around the world.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:41:25pm

re: #77 makeitstop

You should maybe get a divorce lawyer on the phone, then, lady.

Seriously Gavin’s entire thing is being a bigoted dipshit. It’d be sad if he were a young adult but it’s really sad with a man in his 40’s.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:41:50pm

re: #75 KGxvi

It’s so strange to see things on social media from this administration that are just… normal.

Except they couldn’t even get that right.

Today, we gathered for Diwali, a holiday observed by Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jains throughout the United States & around the world. Hundreds of millions of people have gathered with family & friends to light the Diya and to mark the beginning of a New Year.

They omitted Hindus (which would have been easily corrected by a wiki search).

They fail at everything they do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:42:02pm

Today, we gathered for Eid, a holiday observed by Buddhists, Christians, and Wiccans throughout the United States & around the world.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:42:28pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

What is missing?

I’m seeing that Hindus was missing from his statement. Got it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:42:39pm

re: #81 lawhawk

Except they couldn’t even get that right.

They omitted Hindus (which would have been easily corrected by a wiki search).

They fail at everything they do.

It’s like Google is verboten at this WH.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:42:48pm

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

What is missing?

Hindus.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:42:58pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

A man in search of an ideology that frames his assholeness as virtue.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:43:15pm

re: #83 Patricia Kayden

What is missing?

Hindus. Diwali is observed by Hindus, Jains, Sikhs, and Buddhists across India and around the world.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:43:25pm

re: #73 Kilroy was here

Mira Ricardel assumed her position on May 15, 2018.
Guess she didn’t make it past her six month probation period.

Probably hired by John Bolton, he took the National Security Adviser position in early April.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:44:18pm

re: #55 Patricia Kayden

A living example of The Golden Rule. Others are treating him as he would treat them.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:44:31pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

One of my favorite Coen films.

I watch it frequently. It is my favorite of all of them.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:44:42pm

re: #75 KGxvi

It’s so strange to see things on social media from this administration that are just… normal.

They forgot Hindus, by far the largest religious group that celebrates Diwali.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:45:40pm

re: #77 makeitstop

You should maybe get a divorce lawyer on the phone, then, lady.

Or, McInnes is full of shit and the whole Proud Boy thing is nothing but a way to stir shit up, make bucks and keep his name in the news. In other words, he is a fake.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:45:56pm

re: #86 The Ghost of a Flea

A man in search of an ideology that frames his assholeness as virtue.

Yep that’s his entire ideology. Well that and boys rule, girls drool but especially straight white boys. The Proud Boys are a stupid and uncute version of Spanky McFarland’s He Man Woman Haters Club.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:46:14pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

Or, McInnes is full of shit and the whole Proud Boy thing is nothing but a way to stir shit up, make bucks and keep his name in the news. In other words, he is a fake.

Or she is.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:46:34pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

Or, McInnes is full of shit and the whole Proud Boy thing is nothing but a way to stir shit up, make bucks and keep his name in the news. In other words, he is a fake.

I can see that too. Milo for example before Gamer Gate mocked the gaming community m.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:46:45pm

re: #66 Kragar

Another great start to a very special Infrastructure Week.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:47:00pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

It’s like Google is verboten at this WH.

Don’t need Google. They have Trump.

He already knows everything.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:47:13pm

re: #81 lawhawk

Except they couldn’t even get that right.

They omitted Hindus (which would have been easily corrected by a wiki search).

They fail at everything they do.

Well, it’s not like they’ve had a copyeditor in the building since January 19, 2017.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:49:06pm

heh, from the wikipedia entry on Diwali…

Diwali symbolises the spiritual “victory of light over darkness, good over evil and knowledge over ignorance.”

That makes their fuck up even better.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:49:14pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:49:36pm

re: #93 HappyWarrior

Yep that’s his entire ideology. Well that and boys rule, girls drool but especially straight white boys. The Proud Boys are a stupid and uncute version of Spanky McFarland’s He Man Woman Haters Club.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:49:39pm

re: #98 KGxvi

Well, it’s not like they’ve had a copyeditor in the building since January 19, 2017.

Mr. Trump, you need to hire a copywriter.
Did Obama have one?
Well yes Mr- forget it, we don’t need one
*deep sighs ala Kif*

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:50:32pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Today, we gathered for Diwali, a holiday observed by Buddhists, Sikhs, and Jains throughout the United States & around the world. Throughout the United States? How? Who are these people and how did they get into America country? WTF? Are these the people with the head things on their heads? Towels? Is this some sort of trick?

— Donald J. Trump

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:50:50pm

re: #100 BeachDem

And this is why black women especially find your party to be shit, Phil. But hey good look dismissing laughing at lynchings.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:51:56pm

re: #70 The Vicious Babushka

Something is missing here.

MIssing: A President who can handle the most elementary ceremonial aspects of his job.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:53:12pm

re: #105 jaunte

MIssing: A President who can handle the most elementary ceremonial aspects of his job.

I suspect even the Zodiac that fails at all other aspects as an elected leader and decent person could do that.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:53:56pm
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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:54:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:54:50pm

re: #66 Kragar

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:54:53pm

West Wing Beefs With East Wing

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:55:13pm

re: #108 jaunte

Frigging amateurs right down to the Trumpian- we’ll see bs.

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Interesting Times  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:55:14pm

re: #107 jaunte

Schrodinger’s White House employee.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:55:48pm

re: #112 Interesting Times

Schrodinger is the new Chief of Staff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:55:54pm

re: #102 HappyWarrior

Mr. Trump, you need to hire a copywriter.
Did Obama have one?
Well yes Mr- forget it, we don’t need one
*deep sighs ala Kif*

*sigh*
“Sex-lexia.”

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:56:14pm

re: #107 jaunte

A White House official just told reporters the WSJ story is not accurate. Says Mira Ricardel has not been fired or escorted off the grounds and is at her desk and still works at the WH now.

Someone’s throwing chaff here. They burned nearly a full news cycle with it.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:56:40pm

re: #114 Blind Frog Belly White

*sigh*
“Sex-lexia.”

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John Kelly even looks a little like Kif.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:56:46pm

re: #113 jaunte

Schrodinger is the new Chief of Staff.

Also simultaneously NOT the new Chief of Staff, until you open the office door.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:57:22pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

“I don’t know, you tell me.”

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A Cranky One  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:57:28pm

re: #49 ObserverArt

Is there a nappy time too? Because sometimes it seems he gets awfully cranky and needs a time out to chill and get in a nap to reset for the next round of crankiness.

Being cranky all the time is difficult. Requires years to perfect. Shouldn’t be tried by amateurs.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 12:59:19pm

re: #108 jaunte

“I know what I am but what are you?”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:03:08pm

re: #120 Sir John Barron

“I know what I am but what are you?”

The best PeeWee Herman Defense is a good PeeWee Herman Offense.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:04:12pm

re: #112 Interesting Times

Schrodinger’s White House employee.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:04:18pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:08:21pm

re: #109 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Well, this has been a real clusterfock.”

“Yes, Sir.”

“So what did we learn?”

“Sir?”

“We learned not to do that again. But what did we do?”

“Uh, sir, uh, the woman from the athletic club is waiting outside….”

“Who?”

“Mrs. Litsky…she says she’ll play ball if we pay for her, uh, adjustments.”

“How much…nah never mind, pay it.”

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:08:23pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Elect a Berner and this is what you get.

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Mike Lamb  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:08:34pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Jeebus fuck, that is painful.

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freetoken  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:09:36pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

Idealists always do this to themselves.

I get that Ocasio-Cortez wants to identify with the little guy, so joining a sit in may seem appropriate. But in this age where Trump thinks he can break the law daily and get away with it, priorities really matter.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:11:01pm

Something else for SoCal residents to worry about - the wildfires have burned thousands of acres in an area previously used for a nuclear research facility, and home to one of the nation’s worst nuclear accidents few actually knew about.

Santa Susana hosted other sensitive projects, which in turn left their own more-public toxic legacies. Three other main areas of the lab were devoted to rocket testing, which polluted the land and groundwater with the toxic rocket fuel oxidizer perchlorate and the engine solvent trichloroethylene. Perchlorate has been found in water wells circling the site, including in adjacent Simi Valley.

There are varying estimates of the amount of TCE in Rocketdyne’s groundwater from tens of thousands of rocket tests at the lab. Boeing’s groundwater remediation system, which consists of “air-stripping” towers that allow the TCE to evaporate into the open air, removed 10 gallons of the toxic goo from the water annually.

“Since acquiring our site in 1996, Boeing has made significant progress in our cleanup efforts,” Boeing spokesperson Kamara Sams said recently, although the company turned off the water-purifying system in 2001.

Meanwhile, the SRE was but one of 10 nuclear reactors at the site, plus a “hot lab” to cut apart and work on nuclear fuel for Santa Susana, Department of Energy and the Atomic Energy Commission facilities from around the country. The site also hosted a plutonium fabrication fuel facility which Dan Hirsch, president of the nonprofit anti-nuclear group the Committee to Bridge the Gap, called “perhaps the most dangerous facility they had on the property.”

Hirsch, who has been a key figure in investigating and publicizing the 1959 nuclear accident, said there also had been serious accidents in at least three of the other SSFL reactors, plus “numerous nuclear fires and spills and releases.”

And there were other dangerous practices on the site. “They had a sodium burn pit where they took radioactively contaminated components and illegally burned them in open pits in the open air,” Hirsch said.

There’s been little transparency about the 1959 accident, and officials are still claiming that there’s no risk.

I’d be wary of claiming no risk, when few are aware of the nature of the accidents, tests, and work done on the site.

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Interesting Times  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:12:36pm
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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:16:04pm

re: #125 Skip Intro

Elect a Berner and this is what you get.

This version of the story seems less terrible:

Rep.-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) rallied a group of climate-change demonstrators waging a sit-in in Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) office Tuesday, an encounter that touched off a display of mutual admiration between the 78-year-old matriarch and the millennial upstart.

Ocasio-Cortez, the self-described democratic socialist who ousted veteran Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) this year, struck a less-confrontational tone in the Capitol than she has on the campaign trail, openly raising the possibility of cooperating with Pelosi should she return to her perch as House speaker in the new Congress.

Sounds like Ocasio-Cortez had business at Pelosi’s office and stopped to speak to the protesters. Which seems like something any smart politician would do in that position.

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CongoJack  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:17:06pm

re: #129 Interesting Times

Hmmm…not sure how to feel about this:

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I do like Pelosi, alot, the issue she has is the “Hilarification” of her political image. I hate to say this but the RW nutjob asylum sees her as an evil something something. In the same way that the RW was Pavlovian with Hilary they do the same with Pelosi. If Hoyer does become Speaker then that removes an easy arrow from the RW quiver. I may not like it, I may not agree with it, but I do see it as a strategy. I would request that Pelosi at least be made a chair of a committee or the whip (as she is an amazing vote counter for the caucus).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:19:41pm

re: #129 Interesting Times

Hmmm…not sure how to feel about this:

Who would you rather see as the Majority Leader?

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:20:32pm

re: #132 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Who would you rather see as the Majority Leader?

Yeah, isn’t there a difference between the Speaker and the Majority Leader?

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:21:06pm

re: #133 KGxvi

Yeah, isn’t there a difference between the Speaker and the Majority Leader?

Yep. Not the same job.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:22:40pm

re: #134 Belafon

Yep. Not the same job.

That’s what I thought. And per wikipedia, Hoyer was the Democratic Leader during Pelosi’s Speakership.

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CongoJack  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:22:47pm

re: #129 Interesting Times

re: #131 CongoJack

There goes my reading comprehension. I went to the dentist - first cavity ever… at the age of 34… and when I came back I forgot hows to read good.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:24:15pm

re: #136 CongoJack

There goes my reading comprehension. I went to the dentist - first cavity ever… at the age of 34… and when I came back I forgot hows to read good.

It’s the fluoride!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:25:08pm
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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:25:39pm

re: #134 Belafon

Roles in the House:

Speaker of the House - Ryan
Speaker Pro Tem.
Majority Leader - McCarthy
Majority Whip - Scalise
Minority Leader - currently Pelosi
Minority Whip - currently Hoyer

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Interesting Times  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:26:02pm

re: #136 CongoJack

There goes my reading comprehension. I went to the dentist - first cavity ever… at the age of 34… and when I came back I forgot hows to read good.

Hahaha don’t feel bad, I totally made the same mistake :P It was this paragraph that threw me:

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is up against a faction of Democrats trying to deprive her of the 218 votes she needs to reclaim the speaker’s gavel. And Assistant Democratic Leader James Clyburn (D-S.C.) is facing a challenge from Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) for majority whip, although Clyburn is favored to win.

…and also this:

The letter highlights Hoyer’s role as a surrogate and fundraiser during the 2018 cycle — unlike Pelosi, Hoyer could campaign for candidates in red districts — and his mentorship of young members and members-elect.

…making me think that yes, it was in fact the same job.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:26:27pm

re: #123 goddamnedfrank

She’s guaranteeing herself a nice long sit on the back bench.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:26:36pm
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CongoJack  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:26:43pm

re: #137 KGxvi

It’s the fluoride!

lol… I did get the out of pocket fluoride treatment today.

Now I say out of pocket because my insurance only covers it if you are 16 or younger. Which is f’d up as it is PREVENTATIVE care. I swear, if I was Thanos and I snapped my fingers all the insurance companies would cease to exist.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:28:29pm

re: #143 CongoJack

Same here. And same here.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:29:49pm

re: #131 CongoJack

I do like Pelosi, alot, the issue she has is the “Hilarification” of her political image. I hate to say this but the RW nutjob asylum sees her as an evil something something. In the same way that the RW was Pavlovian with Hilary they do the same with Pelosi. If Hoyer does become Speaker then that removes an easy arrow from the RW quiver. I may not like it, I may not agree with it, but I do see it as a strategy. I would request that Pelosi at least be made a chair of a committee or the whip (as she is an amazing vote counter for the caucus).

Hate to say it, but no matter who is speaker they will be “Hilarified” by the right. They will become the next “ZOMG PELOSI!” it doesn’t matter who they are or where they are from. If they are a Democrat they will get the same treatment. I for one am perfectly fine with Pelosi as speaker, she gets shit done. Not that it will pass the senate but she will get stuff done.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:29:59pm

re: #137 KGxvi

It’s the fluoride!

re: #143 CongoJack

lol… I did get the out of pocket fluoride treatment today.

Now I say out of pocket because my insurance only covers it if you are 16 or younger. Which is f’d up as it is PREVENTATIVE care. I swear, if I was Thanos and I snapped my fingers all the insurance companies would cease to exist.

Shouldn’t be impurifying your precious bodily fluids

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:30:03pm

Now there’s a choice of fluoride flavors: orange, berry, mint.

But who can tell the difference?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:31:35pm

re: #122 lawhawk

With Heisenberg Indictments, you can know that the target is guilty, or you can know who the target is, but not both.

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CongoJack  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:31:36pm

re: #147 jaunte

Now there’s a choice of fluoride flavors: orange, berry, mint.

But who can tell the difference?

I got the mint… when I burp it just smells and tastes like chemicals. Mmmmmm.

Oh and with the added benefit of my teeth being fuzzy. I always wanted teeth sweaters.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:31:51pm

re: #129 Interesting Times

I hope they keep the fight for House Leader private. I really don’t care who that ends up being. I only care about what they can do to place Trump under check and bring back some normalcy to our government.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:32:16pm

re: #66 Kragar

NEW: John Bolton’s No. 2, Mira Ricardel, was escorted from the White House moments ago, an administration officials tell ⁦@WSJ⁩. Ricardel was standing just a few feet from President Trump earlier this afternoon.

aside from ‘only the best’

they sure do human resources well

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:32:22pm

Didn’t get his midterm pony. Womp womp.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:33:20pm

re: #73 Kilroy was here

Mira Ricardel assumed her position on May 15, 2018.
Guess she didn’t make it past her six month probation period.

how many scaramuccis?

(too soon?)

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:33:27pm

re: #152 makeitstop

LOL. The gig is up. He should have remained as a sleazy businessman instead of putting himself in the White House. Now, all his mess is going to be exposed and he may end up in jail along with at least one of his kids.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:33:35pm

re: #152 makeitstop

Didn’t get his midterm pony. Womp womp.

You’d think Trump would be used to hostile and/or bankruptcy structured take overs… seems to have been a common occurrence in his business dealings.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:34:11pm

What’s up with George?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:35:48pm

re: #152 makeitstop

Didn’t get his midterm pony. Womp womp.

I think he made the same mistake Mitt Romney made in 2012 - mistaking enthusiasm at his rallies for popularity among the population in general.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:36:31pm

re: #152 makeitstop

Trump has retreated into a cocoon of bitterness and resentment, according to multiple administration sources.

“He’s furious,” said one administration official. “Most staffers are trying to avoid him.”

He seems to be tempermentally well suited for the job. Also, JFC:

White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly and Kirstjen Nielsen, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, who are close allies, “seem to be on their way out,” the official said, noting recent leaks on the subject. The official cautioned, however, that personnel decisions are never final until Trump himself tweets out the news — often just after the former reality TV star who’s famous for saying “You’re fired!” has directed Kelly to so inform the individual.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:36:57pm

re: #100 BeachDem

Asked about the racial controversy over a fellow Republican referring to a “public hanging” while running against a Black man, Mississippi’s governor asks why people aren’t outraged about a real problem, the “genocide” perpetrated by Black women getting abortions.

then there’s todays speculation about trump’s possible eight
so of course i started thinking what if one of them was black?

nah…that’s just too…….

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:39:03pm

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with George?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:39:07pm

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with George?

His sentencing hearing is over and he probably thinks he can get Trump to pardon him if he throws enough shit at Mueller.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:39:08pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:39:15pm

re: #152 makeitstop

“Trump has retreated into a cocoon of bitterness and resentment, according to multiple administration sources.”

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plansbandc  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:39:23pm

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

The best people.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:39:27pm

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with George?

Some people are just too stupid to have as clients. George is one of them.

It all started when he announced that he wanted to withdraw his plea agreement. Idiot.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:40:10pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:40:10pm

re: #152 makeitstop

Didn’t get his midterm pony. Womp womp.

The only presidential “roles” he has ever been interested in playing are campaign rallier in chief and tweeter in chief.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:42:01pm

re: #167 Sir John Barron

The only presidential “roles” he has ever been interested in playing are campaign rallier in chief and tweeter in chief.

Ah, come on. He likes riding in the big plane, too.

(But not the helicopter if it’s raining.)
/

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:43:35pm

re: #159 dangerman

then there’s todays speculation about trump’s possible eight
so of course i started thinking what if one of them was black?

nah…that’s just too…….

Now that would be a bridge too far for his cult.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:43:45pm

re: #131 CongoJack

I do like Pelosi, alot, the issue she has is the “Hilarification” of her political image. I hate to say this but the RW nutjob asylum sees her as an evil something something. In the same way that the RW was Pavlovian with Hilary they do the same with Pelosi. If Hoyer does become Speaker then that removes an easy arrow from the RW quiver. I may not like it, I may not agree with it, but I do see it as a strategy. I would request that Pelosi at least be made a chair of a committee or the whip (as she is an amazing vote counter for the caucus).

whether he’s actually got the votes or not

this would last about 3 seconds. the R’s would waste no time and be all over him
they’d paint him exactly the same way they did her, or invent something

hand picked by pelosi, trained by pelosi, etc

pelosi’s puppet
whatever gets the job done

—-yeah, forget all this

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:44:48pm

re: #136 CongoJack

There goes my reading comprehension. I went to the dentist - first cavity ever… at the age of 34… and when I came back I forgot hows to read good.

oops
me too
and no dentist to blame

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:46:54pm

re: #171 dangerman

The speaker is about the only role ever talked about in the House, just because of the power the position holds.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:48:26pm

re: #172 Belafon

3d in line to the Presidency.

The whips are key in being able to get votes passed. They’re the ones who arm twist, count, and wrangle votes on behalf of the speaker.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:48:31pm

re: #169 makeitstop

Now that would be a bridge too far for his cult.

I doubt it. Didn’t hurt Strom Thurmond’s standing with white supremacists.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:48:35pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

LOL. The gig is up. He should have remained as a sleazy businessman instead of putting himself in the White House. Now, all his mess is going to be exposed and he may end up in jail along with at least one of his kids.

this is likely what would have happened if the dems had either house from the start

or had all the R’s not rolled over

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:50:47pm

I don’t really care about Pelosi being Speaker one way or another. But I do think that any Democrats who vowed to vote against her on the House floor and thereby threatening to give the GOP the Speakership assuming the Dem caucus chose her as their candidate, should be given dead last priority for committee assignments. You can’t reward that kind of shitty, reckless-ass brinksmanship. Fuck them.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:51:31pm

re: #172 Belafon

The speaker is about the only role ever talked about in the House, just because of the power the position holds.

yeah
and i should read too

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:52:08pm

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really care about Pelosi being Speaker one way or another. But I do think that any Democrats who vowed to vote against her on the House floor and thereby threatening to give the GOP the Speakership assuming the Dem caucus chose her as their candidate, should be given dead last priority for committee assignments. You can’t reward that kind of shitty, reckless-ass brinksmanship. Fuck them.

And yes, I realize most of those people don’t have any seniority to begin with, but I’d still search high and low for a creative way to fuck them up.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:54:07pm

re: #178 goddamnedfrank

And yes, I realize most of those people don’t have any seniority to begin with, but I’d still search high and low for a creative way to fuck them up.

Like, I’d eat nothing but beans and seafood for three days straight and then go into their offices and crop dust the hell out of the place.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:54:09pm

re: #173 lawhawk

3d in line to the Presidency.

The whips are key in being able to get votes passed. They’re the ones who arm twist, count, and wrangle votes on behalf of the speaker.

The role that the Majority Leader plays in the House depends on the Speaker. Hastert and Gingrich delegated a lot of duties to DeLay and Armey. Pelosi was apparently more hands on. So basically, it’s like the Vice President

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:55:25pm
“The U.S. recorded a $100.5 billion budget deficit in October, an increase of about 60 percent from a year earlier, as spending grew twice as fast as revenue”

Bloomberg reports.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:56:13pm

re: #181 dangerman

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:56:54pm

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really care about Pelosi being Speaker one way or another. But I do think that any Democrats who vowed to vote against her on the House floor and thereby threatening to give the GOP the Speakership assuming the Dem caucus chose her as their candidate, should be given dead last priority for committee assignments. You can’t reward that kind of shitty, reckless-ass brinksmanship. Fuck them.

I suspect what will happen is that a lot of the folks who talked about not supporting Pelosi will vote for someone else in the caucus meeting, and then if she’s the nominee for Speaker, they’ll vote for her. It allows them to have it both ways, and it’s highly unlikely any of them will be punished by voters for that move.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:58:17pm

re: #182 lawhawk

Bigotry and greed. Don’t forget the greed. A lot of those assholes were complaining that the marginal rate for a small amount of their income was going to go up by like 5%.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:58:20pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Like, I’d eat nothing but beans and seafood for three days straight and then go into their offices and crop dust the hell out of the place.

“The Airing of Grievances”

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 1:59:52pm

re: #182 lawhawk

any R says balance the budget, fiscal restraint, omg the deficit, rein in federal spending, to me again and i swear i will take a swing at ‘em

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:00:23pm

re: #183 KGxvi

I suspect what will happen is that a lot of the folks who talked about not supporting Pelosi will vote for someone else in the caucus meeting, and then if she’s the nominee for Speaker, they’ll vote for her. It allows them to have it both ways, and it’s highly unlikely any of them will be punished by voters for that move.

like a primary

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:00:35pm

If Pelosi is the next Speaker, it’ll be the first time since Rayburn and Martin traded the job in the late 40s through the 50s that someone will have held the gavel twice.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:02:11pm

re: #176 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really care about Pelosi being Speaker one way or another. But I do think that any Democrats who vowed to vote against her on the House floor and thereby threatening to give the GOP the Speakership assuming the Dem caucus chose her as their candidate, should be given dead last priority for committee assignments. You can’t reward that kind of shitty, reckless-ass brinksmanship. Fuck them.

Have Democrats learned that lesson? They let Lieberman keep his committee chair even after he’d spoken at the RNC, spent months campaigning for McCain/Palin, and said (out loud in front of a microphone!) that he thought Palin was absolutely ready for the job…

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:02:56pm

re: #188 KGxvi

If Pelosi is the next Speaker, it’ll be the first time since Rayburn and Martin traded the job in the late 40s through the 50s that someone will have held the gavel twice.

And she deserves it. There’s not a person in the House who knows the job better.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:04:21pm

re: #183 KGxvi

I suspect what will happen is that a lot of the folks who talked about not supporting Pelosi will vote for someone else in the caucus meeting, and then if she’s the nominee for Speaker, they’ll vote for her. It allows them to have it both ways, and it’s highly unlikely any of them will be punished by voters for that move.

Yeah that’s fine, but several of them have vowed to vote against her on the floor if they lose the caucus vote. That shit is inexcusable.

Eight sitting lawmakers or their offices said on Thursday that they will oppose Pelosi on the floor. Two candidates who won on Tuesday previously said the same.

Meanwhile, the anti-Pelosi faction — whom some have dubbed the “revolutionaries” or the “rebels” — are working to grow their numbers. Eight of them joined an hour-long conference call Wednesday night to discuss strategy and messaging. They’ve divvied up the names of just-elected candidates who have called for “new leadership” and are reaching out to encourage them to vote against Pelosi on the floor.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:06:32pm
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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:07:38pm

re: #107 jaunte

A White House official just told reporters the WSJ story is not accurate. Says Mira Ricardel has not been fired or escorted off the grounds and is at her desk and still works at the WH now.

here’s how ‘not accurate’ it is:

A White House official confirmed to CNN that Trump has told people that Ricardel will be fired, but she has been given some time to clear out her desk. It was not immediately clear when she would officially make her exit.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:10:22pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

To win the Speakership you need an absolute majority of votes cast. So, what happens if nobody gets to a majority on the first ballot? And we might as well just add that to the nightmare scenarios we never thought we’d see.

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BeachDem  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:10:53pm

re: #191 goddamnedfrank

Yeah that’s fine, but several of them have vowed to vote against her on the floor if they lose the caucus vote. That shit is inexcusable.

The eight lawmakers or offices who have confirmed to POLITICO that they intend to vote against Pelosi on the floor are Democratic Reps. Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, who organized the Wednesday night call, Kathleen Rice of New York, Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, Bill Foster of Illinois, Tim Ryan of Ohio, Filemon Vela of Texas, Kurt Schrader of Oregon and Rep. Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania.

The campaigns of Reps.-Elect Abigail Spanberger and Jason Crow have told POLITICO their bosses won’t vote for her on the floor.

Not a bit surprised at Ryan or Moulton (members of the he-man woman-haters club), disappointed in Lamb and Spanberger—don’t know anything much about the others.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:10:58pm

re: #192 Single-handed sailor

Photographer says timing of pre-prom picture made it appear as if Wisconsin high school students were giving Nazi salute.

all of em?

reminds me of an old cartoon i once saw in Easyriders magazine - probably more than 30 years ago

one cop has like 30 bikers on the side of the road:

“Honest officer, all our throttles stuck”

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:11:57pm

re: #192 Single-handed sailor

oh, and bullshit

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:12:27pm

re: #195 BeachDem

I think Lamb’s been on that corner since the special election.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:16:15pm

re: #190 makeitstop

And she deserves it. There’s not a person in the House who knows the job better.

AMEN!!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:16:49pm

I do think that given the stakes Pelosi would be smart to just pick her own replacement candidate and work hand in glove with their office to craft strategy behind the scenes. My off the cuff recommendation would probably be John Lewis.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:20:51pm

re: #156 Patricia Kayden

What’s up with George?

I think this was indirectly addressed downstairs in 421 from FormerDirtDog:

Aaron Blake

@AaronBlake
I asked Papadopoulos’s lawyer, Tom Breen, about George’s tweets suggesting Downer meeting was a Steele/British setup.

Breen: “Most of our clients listen and follow all of our advice, some follow most of our advice, some follow some of our advice, some follow none of our advice.”

4,505
7:18 PM - Sep 11, 2018

Seems like George belongs in the last category — and lawyers who have a choice will not tolerate this type of behavior from their clients.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:23:37pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:24:32pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Frigging amateurs right down to the Trumpian- we’ll see bs.

I wonder if they released info that Mira Ricardel was let go and was escorted out of the White House just so they could make the claim the WSJ was wrong…therefore the media has an agenda with their “fake news” stories.

If they set up Acosta, why not continue messing with the press.

It sure wouldn’t surprise me.

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gocart mozart  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:26:29pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:28:49pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:32:36pm

re: #152 makeitstop

Didn’t get his midterm pony. Womp womp.

Awwwww, Trumpy didn’t get his way in the elections and so now he has to sulk.

What a baby. Dude never matured past about 8 years old.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:32:50pm

re: #204 gocart mozart

Legalized abortion isn’t the same thing as lynching you assholes. Fucking cowards.

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:32:51pm

The Trump Economy is coming!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:33:52pm

I hope that Trumpanomics doesn’t ruin us all.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:37:08pm

re: #162 lawhawk

The Wall Street Journal ✔
@WSJ
House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy will likely be elected Republicans’ minority leader, ending a power struggle that has simmered for months on.wsj.com

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4:37 PM - Nov 13, 2018

Good. He seems to be a screw-up, often saying really dumb shit and doesn’t appear to be very intelligent politicaly. I wouldn’t trust Scalise. He would be the more dangerous of the two.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:37:12pm

Trump’s about to get slapped again. This one will make him mad.

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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:39:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:41:40pm

I think a lot of this Pelosi stuff is theater. I don’t like it but I think that’s what it is. That said, it would be nice if these Democrats would actually try to educate their voters that Pelosi isn’t their fucking enemy.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:42:57pm
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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:43:58pm

Amazing.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:44:17pm

Merrick Garland says hi, Mitch.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:45:24pm

re: #214 jaunte

Mitch, here’s my response go fuck yourself with Brett Kavanaugh’s beer bottles. You are by far the most partisan majority leader this country has ever had. You don’t get to demand shit but go ahead cry more about how you can’t eat a meal. Maybe if you actually had some decency and humility, you’d get some respect but nope you’re a fucking lying asshole.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:46:11pm

We really need to find a good candidate to run against Mitch. I know it’s Kentucky but put the fear of losing in Mitch and maybe he won’t have time to write patronizing op-eds like that.

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gocart mozart  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:46:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:46:35pm

re: #216 jaunte

Merrick Garland says hi, Mitch.

And bunch of other of Obama’s nominees. Shameless asshole.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:48:20pm

re: #214 jaunte

over 5000 comments and less than 1500 likes… I don’t know much about twitter, but I’m guessing that’s not a great ratio.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:49:25pm

McConnell has no idea what the needs of the country are.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:52:52pm

re: #218 HappyWarrior

We really need to find a good candidate to run against Mitch. I know it’s Kentucky but put the fear of losing in Mitch and maybe he won’t have time to write patronizing op-eds like that.

Ashley Judd grew up in Kentucky, graduated from the University of Kentucky, and she’s one of the leading MeToo cases (with a lawsuit against Harvey Weinstein currently in process).

And if anybody tries to “celebrities should stay in their lane,” she also has master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:53:36pm

re: #222 jaunte

McConnell has no idea what the needs of the country are.

He is the out of touch Washington politician Republicans make every Dem out to be.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 2:54:08pm

re: #223 sagehen

Ashley Judd grew up in Kentucky, graduated from the University of Kentucky, and she’s one of the leading MeToo cases (with a lawsuit against Harvey Weinstein currently in process).

And if anybody tries to “celebrities should stay in their lane,” she also has master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

I’ll take it. I’ve always liked her.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:02:37pm

re: #221 KGxvi

over 5000 comments and less than 1500 likes… I don’t know much about twitter, but I’m guessing that’s not a great ratio.

The comments are “somewhat” hostile and mocking him — one person even posting that she was there for the ratio. But Cruz got re-elected although no one likes him; I’m not sure what it would take to persuade Kentucky with their twin evils of Rand Paul and McConnell to replace either one with a Democrat.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:05:40pm

re: #214 jaunte

My latest Op-Ed: Will Dems work with us, or simply put partisan politics ahead of the country?

MY latest Op-Ed: Will Mcconnell work with Dems or simply put partisan politics ahead of the country as he has for the last 10 years?

cf:
- ‘my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president’
- Merrick Garland

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:06:10pm

re: #222 jaunte

McConnell has no idea what the needs of the country are.

He knows in intimate detail the needs of his donor class — and who else matters anyway?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:06:27pm

re: #227 dangerman

MY latest Op-Ed: Will Mcconnell work with Dems or simply put partisan politics ahead of the country as he has for the last 10 years?

cf:
- ‘my number one priority is making sure president Obama’s a one-term president’
- Merrick Garland

Yep he has no shame at all.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:06:30pm

re: #226 Hecuba’s daughter

The comments are “somewhat” hostile and mocking him — one person even posting that she was there for the ratio. But Cruz got re-elected although no one likes him; I’m not sure what it would take to persuade Kentucky with their twin evils of Rand Paul and McConnell to replace either one with a Democrat.

Unlike Texas, Kentucky has at least recently elected Democrats to statewide offices.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:07:38pm

re: #223 sagehen

Ashley Judd grew up in Kentucky, graduated from the University of Kentucky, and she’s one of the leading MeToo cases (with a lawsuit against Harvey Weinstein currently in process).

And if anybody tries to “celebrities should stay in their lane,” she also has master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

But won’t she have to move back to Kentucky and establish residence there? Is that something she would really want to do?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:08:23pm

re: #223 sagehen

Ashley Judd grew up in Kentucky, graduated from the University of Kentucky, and she’s one of the leading MeToo cases (with a lawsuit against Harvey Weinstein currently in process).

And if anybody tries to “celebrities should stay in their lane,” she also has master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

She already considered it and decided against, mostly because of her mental health issues.

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wrenchwench  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:09:27pm

re: #226 Hecuba’s daughter

The comments are “somewhat” hostile and mocking him — one person even posting that she was there for the ratio. But Cruz got re-elected although no one likes him; I’m not sure what it would take to persuade Kentucky with their twin evils of Rand Paul and McConnell to replace either one with a Democrat.

Won’t be twitter.

re: #228 Hecuba’s daughter

He knows in intimate detail the needs of his donor class — and who else matters anyway?

Yep. If Kentucky is to be persuaded, money would have to be involved somehow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:11:51pm

I almost hate Mcconnell more than Trump.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:12:39pm

re: #215 jaunte

Amazing.

So that’s what Murdoch was doing at his office the other day. Having him write this BS for Fox?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:14:26pm

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

I almost hate Mcconnell more than Trump.

Ultimately, what we are watching is his agenda being played out, not Trump’s.

All that legislative fuckery that’s making things worse? McConnell is either doing it himself or facilitating it.

eta: which is to say—yes, should should hate him just as much.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:14:45pm

The smartest man alive.

Youtube Video

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:16:38pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Ultimately, what we are watching is his agenda being played out, not Trump’s.

All that legislative fuckery that’s making things worse? McConnell is either doing it himself or facilitating it.

A combination of Paul Ryan and McConnell getting everything they desire in domestic policy. I’m not sure that their foreign policy is completely aligned with Trump’s.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:17:39pm

re: #238 Hecuba’s daughter

A combination of Paul Ryan and McConnell getting everything they desire in domestic policy. I’m not sure that their foreign policy is completely aligned with Trump’s.

It doesn’t necessarily have to be. The key, to them, is domestic policy and as long as Trump doesn’t start a nuclear holocaust or WWIII (or, as is most likely to happen, both at once), they’ll manage the rest.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:18:30pm

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

I almost hate Mcconnell more than Trump.

That is understandable…McConnell knows politics, evil as he is. And he knows how to manipulate the rules and hold his majority together. That is why he is so dangerous.

Trump doesn’t know anything about anything.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:18:30pm

re: #236 The Ghost of a Flea

Ultimately, what we are watching is his agenda being played out, not Trump’s.

All that legislative fuckery that’s making things worse? McConnell is either doing it himself or facilitating it.

eta: which is to say—yes, should should hate him just as much.

Yep.

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freetoken  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:18:53pm

re: #239 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

When you’re very rich, “foreign policy” doesn’t matter anymore because:
1) it’s not your children who will die in war;
2) there’s money to be made in wars.

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jaunte  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:19:45pm

He’s a mini-Trump:

“…The letter informed Whitaker that the city was terminating the loan agreement and gave him 30 days to pay back $151,620 that he had been advanced. It noted that the city had to complete the work by the end of 2016 or repay HUD, and that it did not have confidence Whitaker’s company was up to that task.

Whitaker did not reply to the city’s notice. His lender, Lincoln Savings Bank, soon declared Whitaker’s company in default after he ignored demands to pay back a mortgage that had ballooned to $687,000, records show. The bank initiated foreclosure proceedings on the property in July 2016, seeking to be paid back ahead of the city and contractors.

The contractors included an electrician who filed a lawsuit seeking to collect more than $14,000 in unpaid invoices. A process server said in a court filing that repeated visits to three addresses listed for Whitaker’s company and his law firm turned up nothing other than dark, locked offices. The lawsuit was eventually dismissed after both Whitaker and the contractor failed to show up to a scheduled court hearing that had been announced in the newspaper.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:22:07pm

re: #242 freetoken

When you’re very rich, “foreign policy” doesn’t matter anymore because:
1) it’s not your children who will die in war;
2) there’s money to be made in wars.

Again, excepting the aforementioned nuclear holocaust, which would, unfortunately, reduce both rich and poor to radioactive cinders in short order.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:23:36pm

re: #243 jaunte

So if I’m sued, simply not showing up in court gets me off the hook? What kind of crap is this?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:25:49pm

re: #245 Skip Intro

So if I’m sued, simply not showing up in court gets me off the hook? What kind of crap is this?

IOKIYAR

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:28:42pm

re: #243 jaunte

The answer is most likely yes, and they think this is all ok.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:28:53pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:29:18pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:30:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:32:06pm

re: #250 Skip Intro

Elections aren’t supposed to be “fun.” Must be nice to live in the Fox safe space where your life isn’t impacted by who’s in charge.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:32:47pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like her. Want her to run for potus or considered for VP, AG, or scotus.

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freetoken  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:34:31pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:35:25pm
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freetoken  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:39:06pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:41:34pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:41:48pm

re: #251 HappyWarrior

Elections aren’t supposed to be “fun.” Must be nice to live in the Fox safe space where your life isn’t impacted by who’s in charge.

Elections are supposed to be called by midnight the day of the election according to Trump. If the Republican is winning, that is.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:43:10pm

re: #257 Skip Intro

Elections are supposed to be called by midnight the day of the election according to Trump.

Well, if we implemented common sense voting reforms, this might actually happen. The problem is, that would actually ENABLE people to vote, and dear White American Jesus, we can’t have that.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:43:21pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:45:35pm

Behind a private tag for a good reason.

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:46:20pm

re: #242 freetoken

When you’re very rich, “foreign policy” doesn’t matter anymore because:
1) it’s not your children who will die in war;
2) there’s money to be made in wars.

3) you can always immigrate to someplace the war is effecting

The truth is, when you’re very wealthy, foreign policy matters only so far as it affects the bottom line.

(I can never remember whether it’s effect or affect)

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:47:57pm

re: #243 jaunte

If they did published notice, the case likely wasn’t dismissed, it would have entitled the plaintiff to a default judgment. If it was dismissed, it was because they got a hold of someone and negotiated a settlement.

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Archangelus  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:47:59pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:49:28pm
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Archangelus  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:49:53pm

re: #260 Skip Intro

Behind a private tag for a good reason.

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My eyes… my poor, poor eyes…

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:50:32pm

re: #223 sagehen

Ashley Judd grew up in Kentucky, graduated from the University of Kentucky, and she’s one of the leading MeToo cases (with a lawsuit against Harvey Weinstein currently in process).

And if anybody tries to “celebrities should stay in their lane,” she also has master’s degree in public administration from Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

She might as well run; its not like any of the politicians have had any luck beating Mitch over the last 34 years.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:50:34pm

re: #263 Archangelus

Mr. McConnell:

Since the Republican Party has refused to work with Democrats on literally everything since at least the time of William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, and the reverse is demonstrably not true (see, for example, Democrats working with Republicans post-9/11 to effect homeland security reforms), I suggest, with the utmost of respect due to yourself and your office, that you go fuck yourself with a rusty spork at your earliest convenience.

Yours most sincerely,
The Dopefish.

SWIM, SWIM, HUNGRY…

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:51:09pm

re: #265 Archangelus

that is one of my favorite moments in the history of the show.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:51:50pm

re: #226 Hecuba’s daughter

The comments are “somewhat” hostile and mocking him — one person even posting that she was there for the ratio. But Cruz got re-elected although no one likes him; I’m not sure what it would take to persuade Kentucky with their twin evils of Rand Paul and McConnell to replace either one with a Democrat.

Got me. We had a terrific candidate for Ky-6 in Amy McGrath, and she lost by 10k votes.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:56:04pm

re: #240 ObserverArt

That is understandable…McConnell knows politics, evil as he is. And he knows how to manipulate the rules and hold his majority together. That is why he is so dangerous.

Trump doesn’t know anything about anything.

and that’s why his “op-ed” is disingenuous bullshit

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KGxvi  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:57:29pm

re: #269 Big Beautiful Door

Got me. We had a terrific candidate for Ky-6 in Amy McGrath, and she lost by 10k votes.

It was a 10% improvement from two years ago, though. 51-48 this time, was 61-38 last time. That should be a sign of hope.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:57:54pm

re: #264 gocart mozart

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

@Ocasio2018
Thank you, @NancyPelosi.

We have 10 years left to plan and implement a Green New Deal before cataclysmic climate disaster.

Reinstating the Select Committee is exactly what we need to do.

Nancy Pelosi

@NancyPelosi
Deeply inspired by the young activists & advocates leading the way on confronting climate change. The climate crisis threatens the futures of communities nationwide, and I strongly support reinstating the select committee to address the crisis. goo.gl

16.9K
11:20 AM - Nov 13, 2018

Good for AOC. Am delighted to see that she is learning how to play the Washington game. So far, it looks like she is a quick study.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:58:42pm

re: #265 Archangelus

You were warned.

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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2018 • 3:58:43pm

re: #260 Skip Intro

Behind a private tag for a good reason.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:00:14pm

re: #243 jaunte

He’s a mini-Trump:

what we discussed here weeks ago re kavanaugh

The lawsuit was eventually dismissed after both Whitaker and the contractor failed to show up to a scheduled court hearing that had been announced in the newspaper.

you run far enough fast enough and you arent guilty of anything

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:00:20pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:00:50pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

What the WHAT.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:07:14pm

re: #256 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They actually got more white male.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:07:56pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

They actually got more white male.

Yeah, but the Republicans have an eye patch, so HA!

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Scout  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:13:56pm

People in the previous thread were praising, quite rightly, this piece by David Roth. It’s really good overall, but one point he makes stood out to me in particular. In talking about the amount of time trump spends watching fox news, he says:

Watching hours of that every day would destabilize anyone

I think that’s a very real problem. If you’re looking for stuff that will reinforce your ugly belief system, and expose yourself to it for a significant amount of time, you’re going to come out the other end as a really grotesque creature. And this grotesquerie is in the Oval Office.

trump isn’t spending any time meeing with mass-shooting victims, or disabled veterans, or advocates for the unemployed — or any humans who need government and/or societal help.

He’s watching craven political hacks reinforce hatred of The Other.

Hours and hours, day after day.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:15:14pm

re: #243 jaunte

He’s a mini-Trump:

Bookmarked this. I hope someone has already called the Iowa Attorney Disciplinary Board about Whitaker’s unethical behavior, but I’m thinking I may tomorrow, just in case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:19:46pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:24:21pm

re: #271 KGxvi

It was a 10% improvement from two years ago, though. 51-48 this time, was 61-38 last time. That should be a sign of hope.

I guess. But if we can’t win with a candidate like McGrath, in a Democratic wave year, I don’t know when we are going to win. it will be hard to recruit another candidate of her caliber when it seems like a lost cause. Its not like we are Texas, which is becoming majority minority and there’s some light at the end of the tunnel.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:27:03pm

Misdemeanor stalking, 12 months probation

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:30:09pm
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makeitstop  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:31:43pm

re: #282 Scout

People in the previous thread were praising, quite rightly, this piece by David Roth. It’s really good overall, but one point he makes stood out to me in particular. In talking about the amount of time trump spends watching fox news, he says:

Watching hours of that every day would destabilize anyone

I think that’s a very real problem. If you’re looking for stuff that will reinforce your ugly belief system, and expose yourself to it for a significant amount of time, you’re going to come out the other end as a really grotesque creature. And this grotesquerie is in the Oval Office.

trump isn’t spending any time meeing with mass-shooting victims, or disabled veterans, or advocates for the unemployed — or any humans who need government and/or societal help.

He’s watching craven political hacks reinforce hatred of The Other.

Hours and hours, day after day.

This paragraph describes where the Red Hats are now -

Trump and a lot of the people in his thrall are, it seems safe to say, gone. They will continue to walk among us—Trump will be in a golf cart—but they will never come back. They are somewhere else. There is nothing they are not prepared to believe if the right people say it; they will choose the right lie over any truth not just without regret but with pride.

And Trump is among them. He’s getting suckered by Fox every bit as much as the rubes who worship him.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:33:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:35:57pm

re: #289 The Vicious Babushka

WH needs to encourage President to work in other words I see.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:37:47pm

re: #256 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They do have the pirate vote locked up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:38:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:42:02pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:42:12pm

re: #282 Scout

People in the previous thread were praising, quite rightly, this piece by David Roth. It’s really good overall, but one point he makes stood out to me in particular. In talking about the amount of time trump spends watching fox news, he says:

Watching hours of that every day would destabilize anyone

I think that’s a very real problem. If you’re looking for stuff that will reinforce your ugly belief system, and expose yourself to it for a significant amount of time, you’re going to come out the other end as a really grotesque creature. And this grotesquerie is in the Oval Office.

trump isn’t spending any time meeing with mass-shooting victims, or disabled veterans, or advocates for the unemployed — or any humans who need government and/or societal help.

He’s watching craven political hacks reinforce hatred of The Other.

Hours and hours, day after day.

All the talk of Ashley Judd upthread reminds that the first time I became aware of her was in that Star Trek episode The Game. The Game was like Fox News before (after?) its time.

And with all the talk of kids and video games at the time, it was the kids (and one robot) who were skeptical of it….

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:42:51pm

re: #279 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, but the Republicans have an eye patch, so HA!

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:44:25pm

re: #290 HappyWarrior

WH needs to encourage President to work in other words I see.

Here is how Trump does Presidenting:

Watch Fox
Post on Twitter
Play golf
Ride on Air Force One (A garbage plane! Doesn’t even have gold-plated toilet fixtures like the Trump 757!)
Hold rallies
Meet stupid, low-IQ, losers from shithole countries like France
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:45:28pm

“Hey, we elected an Asian chick too! *whisperwhisper* What, she lost? Well, we got Mia Love…*whisper*…she might not win either?! How can we operate as a political party without our tokens?!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:46:07pm

re: #297 Targetpractice

“Hey, we elected an Asian chick too! *whisperwhisper* What, she lost? Well, we got Mia Love…*whisper*…she might not win either?! How can we operate as a political party without our tokens?!”

You can’t.

And that day cannot come soon enough for me.

Fuck all y’all sideways.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:47:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:48:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:49:22pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:49:48pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:50:21pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was not aware until today that anyone but Hindus celebrated Diwali. The tRump WH is so educational….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:50:29pm

I still wanna know why six hours in Egypt cost over $90,000

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:50:39pm

I think everyone’s missing the opportunity we have here.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:50:43pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

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White House rushing to portray Ricardel as “ball-busting bitch” to make First Lady’s decree look like anything but an imperial order.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:52:46pm

hahahahahahahaahaa

oh, wait…he’s serious?

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:53:04pm

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

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Man who told popularly-elected president “You will not fill this vacancy” on the SCOTUS bench and fabricated a rule from the aether to justify refusing to allow even a hearing to consider that president’s nominee now wants to suggest that DNC not allowing him to continue getting his way is “partisan.”

We’re plumbing new depths of chutzpah here.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:53:55pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maybe the kittehs are art lovers and just want to see the exhibits. Cats with class and taste.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:54:31pm

re: #305 goddamnedfrank

Naming Barack Obama as Speaker of House would be the maximum troll move by Democrats.

Since it would accomplish ten years worth of demographic change in a single news cycle, it is seriously worth considering.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:55:47pm

re: #309 ObserverArt

Maybe the kittehs are art lovers and just want to see the exhibits. Cats with class and taste.

Not likely. I love them, but cats and art don’t mix well.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:56:00pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

I still wanna know why six hours in Egypt cost over $90,000

Did you see her fab outfits?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:57:00pm

re: #310 EPR-radar

Naming Barack Obama as Speaker of House would be the maximum troll move by Democrats.

Since it would accomplish ten years worth of demographic change in a single news cycle, it is seriously worth considering.

The only problem with Barack is that he’s probably ineligible to be in the line of succession at all due to the terms of the 22nd Amendment.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:57:42pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahahaahaa

oh, wait…he’s serious?

Corker - Flake 2020

We stood up to Trump…and followed along anyway!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:57:51pm

re: #312 ObserverArt

Did you see her fab outfits?

The ones that made her look like Rene Belloq?

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:57:55pm

re: #308 Targetpractice

Man who told popularly-elected president “You will not fill this vacancy” on the SCOTUS bench and fabricated a rule from the aether to justify refusing to allow even a hearing to consider that president’s nominee now wants to suggest that DNC not allowing him to continue getting his way is “partisan.”

We’re plumbing new depths of chutzpah here.

For my part, I’m perfectly prepared to hear Mitch McConnell out on the subject of bipartisan cooperation in DC after he has spent a week staked out over an anthill in the desert.

I think this proposal is more than fair, since it doesn’t involve the scorpion pits, the rack, or use of an iron maiden.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:58:00pm

re: #310 EPR-radar

Naming Barack Obama as Speaker of House would be the maximum troll move by Democrats.

Since it would accomplish ten years worth of demographic change in a single news cycle, it is seriously worth considering.

Would it be a good idea to have someone second in the line of succession who couldn’t serve if necessary?

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:58:56pm

Can we just take a second to imagine how hard the press would be wigging out had word come down that the Deputy National Security Advisor was being told to pack their shit and get out…and then it was revealed the reason was because said Deputy had gotten into a spat with Michelle Obama and Barack had ordered their ouster as a result?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:59:08pm

re: #317 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Exactly one minute straight up!

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:59:33pm
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TedStriker  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:59:36pm

re: #317 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Would it be a good idea to have someone second in the line of succession who couldn’t serve if necessary?

He’d just be skipped, so third choice better be worth that.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:59:48pm

re: #311 EPR-radar

Not likely. I love them, but cats and art don’t mix well.

Uh oh, this sounds like you’ve had some bad experience with cats and art.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 4:59:49pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahahahaahaa

oh, wait…he’s serious?

I haven’t ruled out being totally useless either Bob. Maybe you’d actually have cred if you actually voted against Trump’s bs instead of being a do nothing.

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Scout  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:00:33pm

Just want to make sure I understand what is happening. A first lady is calling publicly for a national security official to be fired.

I’m going out on a limb here to say that’s not … quite … normal.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:01:19pm

re: #324 Scout

Just want to make sure I understand what is happening. A first lady is calling publicly for a national security official to be fired.

I’m going out on a limb here to say that’s not … quite … normal.

Pat Nixon totally hated Henry Kissinger.//

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:03:15pm

re: #324 Scout

Just want to make sure I understand what is happening. A first lady is calling publicly for a national security official to be fired.

I’m going out on a limb here to say that’s not … quite … normal.

Be Best

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:03:52pm

re: #321 TedStriker

He’d just be skipped, so third choice better be worth that.

Or just keep him in the line of succession and dare the Republicans to do something about it. Offense, people.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:05:31pm

re: #320 Single-handed sailor

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Winning!

//////////

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:06:18pm

re: #286 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Misdemeanor stalking, 12 months probation

Apparently, Zimmerman is going to have to kill a white person to pay for his many crimes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:06:50pm

re: #324 Scout

Just want to make sure I understand what is happening. A first lady is calling publicly for a national security official to be fired.

I’m going out on a limb here to say that’s not … quite … normal.

kinda gives a new interpretation of the look she gave Putin in Paris when the moron was grinning like a fool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:09:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:10:48pm

re: #331 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s 100% right. So frustrating that so many Democrats fall for the crap that tells them she’s awful.

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EPR-radar  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:25:36pm

re: #332 HappyWarrior

She’s 100% right. So frustrating that so many Democrats fall for the crap that tells them she’s awful.

Why is it that calls for younger leaders to come forward in the Democratic party (which is generally a good thing) always seem to come at the expense of leading (D) women (Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein)?

Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is as old as anyone else in the DC gerontocracy, with nary a peep about his age.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:28:40pm

re: #333 EPR-radar

Why is it that calls for younger leaders to come forward in the Democratic party (which is generally a good thing) always seem to come at the expense of leading (D) women (Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein)?

Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is as old as anyone else in the DC gerontocracy, with nary a peep about his age.

They usually justify it with the fact that Bernie’s “new and fresh” which honestly is bs. He’s been in Washington in fact longer than DiFi and Clinton and only three years less than Nancy. But you’re right. There is a bunch of sexist double standards at play that Sanders gets away with. It’s not his fault directly for that obviously but it does annoy me that no one talks about how Bernie should step aside even though he’d be 80 the year he would be inaugurated. The reason why Bernie’s not part of the hated establishment is because Bernie doesn’t get shit done. Pelosi, Clinton, and DiFi are doers. I can see the Berners are already turning their ire on the new generation of Dem women though. They hate Kamala especially.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:29:16pm

“governor elect” and the ballots are still being counted…good grief

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:30:10pm

re: #333 EPR-radar

That’s because he’s such a colossal asshole we never get that far.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:30:14pm

re: #335 Backwoods_Sleuth

“governor elect” and the ballots are still being counted…good grief

You’re not the Governor-elect, asshole.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:31:27pm

re: #337 HappyWarrior

He was leading at midnight so according to Republican rules he won.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:32:06pm

re: #336 Skip Intro

That’s because he’s such a colossal asshole we never get that far.

It amuses me so much that so many people my age or younger fall for Ron Paul and Bernie’s BS as “revolutionary” when they’re really two old fogeys who have/had been in Washington for years but got their outsider reputation because they don’t know how to pass legislation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:32:18pm

re: #338 Skip Intro

He was leading at midnight so according to Republican rules he won.

That’s right!//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:33:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:33:50pm

FWIW I’m actually fine with Bernie running again because I want to see some of the new car paint come off his smell with the people who thought he could do no wrong. Let them find out from other Democrats that Bernie got Steve King’s praise on immigration. That shit bothers me far more than HRC speaking to Goldman Sachs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:34:13pm

re: #338 Skip Intro

He was a Republican leading at midnight so according to Republican rules he won.

ftfy

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:34:37pm

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a strange world where OC is more competitive for Democrats than the part of PA where my mom’s folks grew up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:35:46pm
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:37:02pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

The French stuff tastes better. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:40:26pm

heh

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:41:48pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

It’s such a crap tactic but I don’t expect anything else from someone who will probably get 5% of the black vote and yet remains clueless to why that is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:43:11pm

teehee

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:43:35pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I find it hard to laugh at a “pun” that implies “wine” and “whine” are pronounced the same….

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:44:32pm

re: #333 EPR-radar

Why is it that calls for younger leaders to come forward in the Democratic party (which is generally a good thing) always seem to come at the expense of leading (D) women (Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein)?

Meanwhile Bernie Sanders is as old as anyone else in the DC gerontocracy, with nary a peep about his age.

Because Bernie is only leading two things: Jack and Shit. It doesn’t help that he’s effectively reached a Faustian deal with the VT DNC: Keep letting him run virtually unopposed so as not to split the blue vote and he promises to caucus with them in the Senate. Thus he gets to keep portraying himself as an “independent” and the DNC keeps the seat out of GOP hands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:44:42pm
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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:44:57pm
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meteor  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:45:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:47:22pm

re: #351 Targetpractice

Because Bernie is only leading two things: Jack and Shit. It doesn’t help that he’s effectively reached a Faustian deal with the VT DNC: Keep letting him run virtually unopposed so as not to split the blue vote and he promises to caucus with them in the Senate. Thus he gets to keep portraying himself as an “independent” and the DNC keeps the seat out of GOP hands.

I wonder what Pat Leahy thinks of Bernie off the record. The stuff I read from the Vermont NAACP about Bernie was another red flag but then again Bernie sees the NAACP, PP, and other groups like that as “the establishment.” In a way, I appreciate Bernie though for showing me that I can dislike someone who on paper I may have more agreement than I don’t. I’m a little disappointed though by how many in my demo think he’s the greatest thing in politics though.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:47:28pm

re: #317 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Would it be a good idea to have someone second in the line of succession who couldn’t serve if necessary?

The Speaker of the House does not have to be eligile.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:48:38pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, who could have predicted that the story would disappear from the man’s mind the moment the midterms were over?

Oh, right, myself and every person who has an IQ above room temp.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:50:23pm

re: #357 Targetpractice

Yeah, who could have predicted that the story would disappear from the man’s mind the moment the midterms were over?

Oh, right, myself and every person who has an IQ above room temp.

To be fair, I don’t think Trump has forgotten about the caravan. I think that Faux News made it silently go away because they had achieved their objective, and his handlers in the White House have been keeping him distracted with other outrages in order to complete the illusion.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:51:15pm

re: #355 HappyWarrior

I wonder what Pat Leahy thinks of Bernie off the record. The stuff I read from the Vermont NAACP about Bernie was another red flag but then again Bernie sees the NAACP, PP, and other groups like that as “the establishment.” In a way, I appreciate Bernie though for showing me that I can dislike someone who on paper I may have more agreement than I don’t. I’m a little disappointed though by how many in my demo think he’s the greatest thing in politics though.

Their ideological predecessors thought Ralph Nader was prime presidential material. And yet wonder aloud now why nobody will take global warming seriously…after they killed the presidential ambitions of one of the prominent spokesmen because they didn’t like Bill Clinton personally.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:52:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:54:17pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

The ever-loving fuck did he expect was going to happen? He sacks everybody who dares to disagree with him, or - God forbid - tell him the truth. Of COURSE they’re going to hide things from him and lie to him.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:54:20pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:54:44pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

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People said “Let’s elect a businessman because he won’t act like normal presidents!,” and now are shocked that he’s not acting like a normal president because he hasn’t the first fucking clue how politics work but knows how to work the political levers to enrich himself.

Shocker./////////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:55:07pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:57:04pm

re: #361 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The ever-loving fuck did he expect was going to happen? He sacks everybody who dares to disagree with him, or - God forbid - tell him the truth. Of COURSE they’re going to hide things from him and lie to him.

It’s a twisted form of natural selection, with the environment favoring those who can best gauge the moods of a infantile proto-dictator.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:57:37pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:58:17pm

re: #365 Targetpractice

It’s a twisted form of natural selection, with the environment favoring those who can best gauge the moods of a infantile proto-dictator.

It’s like Sim Life.

/Seriously, go look it up
//I spent HOURS smiting poor defenseless creatures

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 5:58:51pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Congratulate him for what? NOt shitting his pants?

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:00:02pm

re: #367 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s like Sim Life.

/Seriously, go look it up
//I spent HOURS smiting poor defenseless creatures

Yep, I remember it. Good times.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:00:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:01:44pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

So basically one giant tantrum because the results didn’t go on Tuesday as he expected them. Yeah and we’re the snowflakes. Obama never acted like a child when he lost Congress. And neither did Bush or Clinton.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:01:46pm

re: #369 Targetpractice

Yep, I remember it. Good times.

I got mad once when the critters got too smart and started evading my smites. True story.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:02:18pm

re: #368 HappyWarrior

Congratulate him for what? NOt shitting his pants?

Depends….

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:02:31pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

“He’s just a bull carrying his own china shop with him when­ever he travels the world,” presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:03:28pm

re: #373 lawhawk

Depends….

I see what you did there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:04:55pm

lol

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mmmirele  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:05:29pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

The museum knows about these two cats; in fact they now sell a bag with a drawing of the black cat on it. I suspect they probably feed and take care of the cats, but they’re just not allowed in the museum.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:06:18pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

So basically one giant tantrum because the results didn’t go on Tuesday as he expected them. Yeah and we’re the snowflakes. Obama never acted like a child when he lost Congress. And neither did Bush or Clinton.

It really also explains why Donny is so focused on the recounts, to the point of threatening federal action to “protect the vote.” Every loss Tuesday night was not a loss simply for the party, it was an insult to his ego and (in a lot of ways) an even bigger upset for him than Obama because of the state of the economy.

When the DNC suffered under the wave election of ‘10, Obama was grilled by the press and accepted that it had been devastating for his side.

Trump so far has tried to pretend that he “won” something by not losing the Senate, such that every loss there in post-Election Night counting only furthers his humiliation.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:08:00pm

re: #378 Targetpractice

It really also explains why Donny is so focused on the recounts, to the point of threatening federal action to “protect the vote.” Every loss Tuesday night was not a loss simply for the party, it was an insult to his ego and (in a lot of ways) an even bigger upset for him than Obama because of the state of the economy.

When the DNC suffered under the wave election of ‘10, Obama was grilled by the press and accepted that it had been devastating for his side.

Trump so far has tried to pretend that he “won” something by not losing the Senate, such that every loss there in post-Election Night counting only furthers his humiliation.

I really don’t want to know how he’d take losing re-election. I thought it would be bad if he lost election but losing re-election may be even worse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:08:25pm

Changing public story. That’s gonna go over well with the judge presiding over the lawsuit

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:08:50pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL,

As he jetted to Paris last Friday, President Trump received a congratulatory phone call aboard Air Force One. British Prime Minister Theresa May was calling to celebrate the Republican Party’s wins in the midterm elections — never mind that Democrats seized control of the House — but her appeal to the American president’s vanity was met with an ornery outburst.

What a world…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:09:20pm

re: #380 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Changing public story. That’s gonna go over well with the judge presiding over the lawsuit

And you can bet that CNN is keeping tabs on all of this to present in court.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:09:39pm

re: #380 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Changing public story. That’s gonna go over well with the judge presiding over the lawsuit

They know that he didn’t assault anyone. Hopefully there’s some blowback.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:10:02pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:11:32pm

re: #380 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Changing public story. That’s gonna go over well with the judge presiding over the lawsuit

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This will be yet another humiliation heaped on Donny, when Acosta is back in the press pool despite his “cunning” plan to have the man thrown out for daring one time too many to challenge the throne.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:12:02pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know what that means. TIME FOR ANOTHER RALLY!!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:12:55pm

re: #386 Skip Intro

You know what that means. TIME FOR ANOTHER RALLY!!!!!!!!

and long weekends in Florida

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:12:58pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

I really don’t want to know how he’d take losing re-election. I thought it would be bad if he lost election but losing re-election may be even worse.

The Secret Service will just tell him there’s a McDonald’s drive through with an employee waiting to hear the story.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:13:38pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

So basically one giant tantrum because the results didn’t go on Tuesday as he expected them. Yeah and we’re the snowflakes. Obama never acted like a child when he lost Congress. And neither did Bush or Clinton.

One of his staffers tried to blow smoke up Bush’s ass that maybe the 2006 avalanche wasn’t as bad as it looked, and he said “No, that was a whipping.”

If even an idiot like C+ Augustus can grasp simple reality, tRump is in a class by himself.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:15:15pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

I really don’t want to know how he’d take losing re-election. I thought it would be bad if he lost election but losing re-election may be even worse.

Florida is our window into how he’ll handle losing reelection, assuming he still chooses to run. Personally, I’m still of the opinion he hangs it up before 2020, choosing to go out a “winner” rather than suffer the final ignominy of losing reelection. Perhaps it’ll also be as part of a backroom deal to avoid facing any federal prosecution upon leaving office.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:15:21pm

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One of his staffers tried to blow smoke up Bush’s ass that maybe the 2006 avalanche wasn’t as bad as it looked, and he said “No, that was a whipping.”

If even an idiot like C+ Augustus can grasp simple reality, tRump is in a class by himself.

You win an internet for that one. I laughed so hard.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:17:14pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mark Berman ✔
@markberman
The president was mad he was criticized for skipping the trip to the American cemetery in France so he blamed staffers for not telling him it would be a PR nightmare if he bailed wapo.st

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8:36 PM - Nov 13, 2018

So, the world’s greatest and smartest politician can’t read how something he does is going to be seen by the world outside his bubble.

I hope his followers see that everyday he does something that displays how bad he is as this presidenting thing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:18:37pm

re: #391 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You win an internet for that one. I laughed so hard.

Oh, I owe that to Charlie Pierce, but I don’t know if he invented it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:18:59pm

Toenail Loudmouth strikes out again

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:19:13pm

re: #392 ObserverArt

So, the world’s greatest and smartest politician can’t read how something he does is going to be seen by the world outside his bubble.

I hope his followers see that everyday he does something that displays how bad he is as this presidenting thing.

They don’t. They see him through the blinders known as “White American Jesus”. They only know him as the candidate who represents the Party of God, and they don’t give two shits about his actual behavior, only that he will ensure that Roe goes away for good.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:25:53pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toenail Loudmouth strikes out again

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White Power Barbie again showing us the sort of hard-hitting commentary that landed her a spot as “Yet Another Blonde Reporter” on Faux News.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:27:34pm

re: #396 Targetpractice

White Power Barbie again showing us the sort of hard-hitting commentary that landed her a spot as “Yet Another Blonde Reporter” on Faux News.

Someone on Fark commented on a Faux News-related thread, “Well, at least they have the hottest female anchors on the news.” Yeah, like that’s any coincidence; they hire them literally only for their looks, and explicitly filter out any that exhibit signs of possessing grey matter between their ears.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:28:18pm

re: #397 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Someone on Fark commented on a Faux News-related thread, “Well, at least they have the hottest female anchors on the news.” Yeah, like that’s any coincidence; they hire them literally only for their looks, and explicitly filter out any that exhibit signs of possessing grey matter between their ears.

“Can you read a teleprompter like you’re expressing an original thought? Good, then you’re hired.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:29:07pm

re: #356 Belafon

The Speaker of the House does not have to be eligile.

While the Speaker does not have to be eligible to be President, with this criminal administration in power, we do want the Speaker, who will be a Democrat, to be the next in line for the Presidency in the unlikely event that both Trump and Pence fall. Otherwise, Orrin Hatch will succeed to the Presidency and we really don’t want that.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:32:25pm

re: #377 mmmirele

The museum knows about these two cats; in fact they now sell a bag with a drawing of the black cat on it. I suspect they probably feed and take care of the cats, but they’re just not allowed in the museum.

Hey, I was right! The article you linked says the cats appreciate fine art. /

They appear to be quiet healthy too.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:32:36pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

Toenail Loudmouth strikes out again

School lunches ruined? Yeah they were so delicious before Michelle. What have you accomplished Tomi other than being Millennial Coulter but more stupid?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:33:59pm

re: #389 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

One of his staffers tried to blow smoke up Bush’s ass that maybe the 2006 avalanche wasn’t as bad as it looked, and he said “No, that was a whipping.”

If even an idiot like C+ Augustus can grasp simple reality, tRump is in a class by himself.

Bush was unintelligent imo but at least not devoid of intellectual curiousity.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:34:26pm

re: #398 Targetpractice

“Can you read a teleprompter like you’re expressing an original thought? Good, then you’re hired.”

Also, perhaps I’m breaking the mold here, but I’m not particularly attracted to any of the current crop of Faux Newsbabes. I guess I’ve grown out of that puerile blonde-bombshell-with-huge-tits phase.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:35:22pm

I’m Tomi’s age and I can safely say school lunch was meh at best in the 90’s. People like Tomi want food as fatty as possible and then complain about the consequences of obesity.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:36:03pm

re: #403 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Also, perhaps I’m breaking the mold here, but I’m not particularly attracted to any of the current crop of Faux Newsbabes. I guess I’ve grown out of that puerile blonde-bombshell-with-huge-tits phase.

Nah. Tomi isn’t unattractive but all the FNC women look the same way and talk the same bs. They’re porn for people who won’t look at real porn.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:36:06pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:37:05pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:37:43pm

re: #386 Skip Intro

You know what that means. TIME FOR ANOTHER RALLY!!!!!!!!

And wouldn’t it be a lot of fun if the rally thing starts to fail because Trump didn’t deliver for his base?

We will know when the venues become the size of a grade school combination gym/cafeteria. Then after a couple of those he will not hold them anymore.

And he will retreat further and further into a complete funk and he won’t come out of his bedroom.

Even Hannity stops calling.

Trumpy sad.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:38:27pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

You’re an idiot Marco. Your analogy sucks as much as your attempts to act like a man of faith. Please GFY now you do nothing twerp.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:38:41pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Ladies and gentlemen: Marco Rubio, the fishfolks’ choice for President in 2016. Their progeny weeps.

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piratedan  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:38:57pm

re: #291 Belafon

hardly….

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:39:00pm

re: #408 ObserverArt

Make it so.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:39:20pm

Yeah, Michelle did such horrible things as classifying pickle relish as a vegetable in order to loosen school lunch requirements…no, wait, that was the GOP under Reagan. Honest mistake.

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Skip Intro  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:40:07pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Is little Marco trying to outsuck Lady Lindsey?

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:40:26pm

re: #179 goddamnedfrank

Like, I’d eat nothing but beans and seafood for three days straight and then go into their offices and crop dust the hell out of the place.

Toss in a couple of days of egg salad and garlic sandwiches with that and you’ll wipe them out.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:40:49pm

re: #410 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ladies and gentlemen: Marco Rubio, the fishfolks’ choice for President in 2016. Their progeny weeps.

Could have been Trump but yeah Rubio is a total empty suit hack. Not all the votes have been counted you lying sack of shit who felt the need to lie about his parents being anti Castro exiles yet had no problem joining the belittling of Elizabeth Warren.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:41:39pm

re: #416 HappyWarrior

Could have been Trump but yeah Rubio is a total empty suit hack. Not all the votes have been counted you lying sack of shit who felt the need to lie about his parents being anti Castro exiles yet had no problem joining the belittling of Elizabeth Warren.

Rubio was the fundies’ choice up until he wasn’t. I knew they would vote for the Republican winner in the end, it was just amusing to see them so spectacularly wrong and yet they voted for Trump just because that’s who their church told them to vote for.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:42:10pm

re: #413 Targetpractice

Yeah, Michelle did such horrible things as classifying pickle relish as a vegetable in order to loosen school lunch requirements…no, wait, that was the GOP under Reagan. Honest mistake.

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How dare she advocate healthy eating when childhood obesity is higher than ever. What a bitch. A real flotus would be insensitive to children separated from their parents.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:42:17pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:42:41pm

re: #417 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Rubio was the fundies’ choice up until he wasn’t. I knew they would vote for the Republican winner in the end, it was just amusing to see them so spectacularly wrong and yet they voted for Trump just because that’s who their church told them to vote for.

Ah I thought Cruz was the fundy choice.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:43:22pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

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A more properly analogy would be that the trailing team kicked a field goal on the last seconds of the game and now the “winning” team is not only wanting the opposing team penalized, they’re screaming that the clock actually stopped as the kick was in the air and so the score the moment the clock hit “00:00” stands.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:43:47pm

re: #395 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They don’t. They see him through the blinders known as “White American Jesus”. They only know him as the candidate who represents the Party of God, and they don’t give two shits about his actual behavior, only that he will ensure that Roe goes away for good.

If the Evangelical big name preacher types realize Trump isn’t going to be the help they thought, they will stop talking about him and they will pump up some replacement person that is the savior.

And all the little lambs will follow.

It is how they were led to Trump. They sure as hell knew nothing about him in the past.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:43:54pm

re: #408 ObserverArt

If hannity stops calling it’s because he’s one of the Cohen’s clients.

Bye, Sean.

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Sea Mexican!  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:44:03pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

This cat expresses my current feelings so well…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:45:03pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:47:19pm

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Ah I thought Cruz was the fundy choice.

In the Deep South, perhaps. I don’t think fishfolk even knew who Ted Cruz was.

(Don’t tell Ted.)

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:47:48pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

“Why won’t Macron hit on me like that?”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:48:28pm

re: #422 ObserverArt

If the Evangelical big name preacher types realize Trump isn’t going to be the help they thought, they will stop talking about him and they will pump us some replacement person that is the savior.

And all the little lambs will follow.

It is how they were led to Trump. They sure as hell knew nothing about him in the past.

They got their two scotus judges and cock and bull about God. They won’t turn on him. Falwell, Graham, & others are crooked as hell.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:49:23pm

re: #426 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In the Deep South, perhaps. I don’t think fishfolk even knew who Ted Cruz was.

(Don’t tell Ted.)

I’m just remembering that he won Iowa. But sounds right. Rubio is an as big fake as Trump imo especially on immigration.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:49:39pm

Is this new?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:50:44pm

re: #430 MsJ

Is this new?

Appears that way.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:52:23pm

re: #428 HappyWarrior

They got their two scotus judges and cock and bull about God. They won’t turn on him. Falwell, Graham, & others are crooked as hell.

Would you make a bet on that?

I wouldn’t. They are all snakes. They are all con artists.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:52:29pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Imagine a “first world country” that doesn’t have the simple mechanics of standard and universal election management (1+1+1) nailed down

Imagine if a senator had some plan or power or…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:54:07pm

re: #432 ObserverArt

Would you make a bet on that?

I wouldn’t. They are all snakes. They are all con artists.

They still loved Reagan after he gave them the pro choice O’Connor and Kennedy. I would bet on it yes. They’ll be in Trump’s corner till the bitter end.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:54:37pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:54:41pm

re: #313 goddamnedfrank

The only problem with Barack is that he’s probably ineligible to be in the line of succession at all due to the terms of the 22nd Amendment.

Get Real Evil!

Elect Michelle Obama Speaker Of The House!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:57:31pm

re: #435 Belafon

He doesn’t get to demand shit. No one has to concede. Kemp is a scared little modern day George Wallace.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 6:58:07pm

All the signs point to us being in a Civil War, and the only way to win it is to get him out of office.

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uncah91  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:02:11pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Who the fuck calls a field goal a “3 point kick”?

It’s like a staffer tried to explain sports to him and he can’t rember which one is football and which is basketball. Don’t even try to explain the difference between football and football and soccer.

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lawhawk  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:02:47pm

So, remember when the pundits were claiming that the blue wave didn’t happen last week, because the Democrats didn’t do as well as “expected”.

Well, it turns out that the wave was there - and building steadily as the votes were tallied. Election night suggested a wave, but we’re seeing the real wave not only in Congress, but at the local level.

Just because a few high profile Democratic party challengers didn’t win races didn’t mean Democrats failed. Democrats picked up a bunch of seats elsewhere.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:04:09pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

It’s a strange world where OC is more competitive for Democrats than the part of PA where my mom’s folks grew up.

At least my home county in Pennsylvania (Beaver) flipped from Red to Blue for both Wolf and Casey!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:04:43pm

re: #440 lawhawk

So, remember when the pundits were claiming that the blue wave didn’t happen last week, because the Democrats didn’t do as well as “expected”.

Well, it turns out that the wave was there - and building steadily as the votes were tallied. Election night suggested a wave, but we’re seeing the real wave not only in Congress, but at the local level.

Just because a few high profile Democratic party challengers didn’t win races didn’t mean Democrats failed. Democrats picked up a bunch of seats elsewhere.

I’m hoping the momentum carries over. We have a chance to flip the VA state legislature to the Dems next fall.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:07:10pm

re: #440 lawhawk

So, remember when the pundits were claiming that the blue wave didn’t happen last week, because the Democrats didn’t do as well as “expected”.

Well, it turns out that the wave was there - and building steadily as the votes were tallied. Election night suggested a wave, but we’re seeing the real wave not only in Congress, but at the local level.

Just because a few high profile Democratic party challengers didn’t win races didn’t mean Democrats failed. Democrats picked up a bunch of seats elsewhere.

I just watched part of a Maddow segment. The Democrats are on track to make gains in the House that we haven’t had since Nixon. I’m actually not entirely surprised at that.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:07:31pm

re: #441 Joe Bacon 🌹

At least my home county in Pennsylvania (Beaver) flipped from Red to Blue for both Wolf and Casey!

Good deal. Cambria’s gone blood red in recent years :(. My great grandfathers must be flipping in their graves. Like your Grandpa, they were union men- UMWA. My other grandparents were from Allegheny in the city of Pittsburgh itself which has remained true and blue.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:07:46pm

re: #313 goddamnedfrank

The only problem with Barack is that he’s probably ineligible to be in the line of succession at all due to the terms of the 22nd Amendment.

The 22nd Amendment says “elected” not that they can’t rise to the office via succession.

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

They could have Obama serve as SOTH and be elevated to POTUS through the order of succession.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:07:48pm

re: #425 Charles Johnson

He thought the world would just have to embrace him merely because he won.

He hasn’t learned that you also have to not be a dick

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:08:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:08:40pm

re: #443 Belafon

I just watched part of a Maddow segment. The Democrats are on track to make gains in the House that we haven’t had since Nixon. I’m actually not entirely surprised at that.

Wow even bigger than 2006? How about that. Gives me hope that we can get the nominee in 2020 a nice majority to work with. I do expect 2022 to be tough since if all holds up, that would be prime time for the voters to have amnesia.

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ObserverArt  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:10:24pm

re: #446 dangerman

He thought the world would just have to embrace him merely because he won.

He hasn’t learned that you also have to not be a dick

And the twist.

He has always been a dick.

And the world didn’t learn that prior to embracing him and leading him to the win.

It’s sad really, what happens when people are too lazy to look into someone they would want as their president.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:10:44pm

re: #438 Belafon

All the signs point to us being in a Civil War, and the only way to win it is to get him out of office.

I don’t know if that will help.

We need to get rid of Fox news et al. Trump is a symptom. Fox and right wing bullshit is the disease.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:11:32pm

re: #449 ObserverArt

And the twist.

He has always been a dick.

And the world didn’t learn that prior to embracing him and leading him to the win.

It’s sad really, what happens when people are too lazy to look into someone they would want as their president.

The world knew. Too many here didn’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:12:36pm

re: #451 Belafon

The world knew. Too many here didn’t care.

They hated “politics as usual” and elected a guy who is crony politics on steroids.

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plansbandc  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:12:41pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

A 3 point kick?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:13:35pm

re: #453 plansbandc

A 3 point kick?

Forget it, it’s Rubio trying to act like he’s one of the cool kids. He probably thinks a three pointer in basketball is from “uptown.” I might trust him with baseball though.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:15:47pm

re: #454 HappyWarrior

Forget it, it’s Rubio trying to act like he’s one of the cool kids. He probably thinks a three pointer in basketball is from “uptown.” I might trust him with baseball though.

Why not? After all baseball is as meaningless as the GOP… < oh, did I say that out loud? >

Grinning, ducking and running.

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stpaulbear  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:16:35pm

re: #407 The Vicious Babushka

Marco Rubio

@marcorubio
Imagine if NFL team was trailing 24-22 but in final seconds hits a 3 pt kick to win. Then AFTER game lawyers for losing team get a judge to order rules changed so that last second field goals are only 1 point

Well that’s how democrat lawyers plan to steal #Florida election

Imagine if NFL team was trailing 24-22 but in final second hits a 3 pt kick to win. Then lawyers for losing team get a judge to order that the game ended before the ball made it over the goalpost.

Well that’s how rethuglican (sorry, I have to be as juvenile as Rubio) lawyers plan to steal #Florida election.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:16:36pm

I swear that element of left that wants to make Pelosi an as big enemy as Trump, McConnell, and Ryan are never goign to get anything they want and they’re going to continue ot be stumped as to why because they keep falling for shit that tries to divide them from people who agree with them more than they don’t but have more of a pragmatic bent.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:17:11pm

re: #455 William Lewis

Why not? After all baseball is as meaningless as the GOP… < oh, did I say that out loud? >

Grinning, ducking and running.

*Throws a spitball* Don’t mess with my game!

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:17:17pm

This fucking ad!

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:21:07pm

re: #457 HappyWarrior

I swear that element of left that wants to make Pelosi an as big enemy as Trump, McConnell, and Ryan are never goign to get anything they want and they’re going to continue ot be stumped as to why because they keep falling for shit that tries to divide them from people who agree with them more than they don’t but have more of a pragmatic bent.

I’ve seen people ask why there were protests outside Pelosi’s office. The answer is that it’s easier to change the mind of someone close to you than someone who doesn’t agree at all.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:21:55pm

re: #451 Belafon

The world knew. Too many here didn’t care.

I’ve said this before. Desperate people read into Trump’s words what they wanted to hear. He was non descript in his stump speeches. People read he was pro-healthcare, pro- Medicare and SocSec. He was a blank slate that people put their hopes into.

What the biggest takeaway is, at least as I see it, (Republican) policies are bad for people and they want change. They want to believe promises but don’t realize that government change is really, really slow. And they’ve heard promises for years with no changes that help them. They don’t really pay attention or they buy the bullshit.

Either way, they need change and some of that change will literally never happen. Coal isn’t coming back. Small towns are not miraculously going to become powerhouses with employers fighting for employees.

I have no idea how to overcome the fact that people refuse to accept reality. So they vote for who promises the most. Trump did that with meaningless words that were lies and where people applied their own sufferings to his empty promises.

All that to say that it won’t change and Democrats need to realize how to address those people’s sufferings.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:22:06pm

re: #440 lawhawk

So, remember when the pundits were claiming that the blue wave didn’t happen last week, because the Democrats didn’t do as well as “expected”.

Well, it turns out that the wave was there - and building steadily as the votes were tallied. Election night suggested a wave, but we’re seeing the real wave not only in Congress, but at the local level.

Just because a few high profile Democratic party challengers didn’t win races didn’t mean Democrats failed. Democrats picked up a bunch of seats elsewhere.

And…
because they didn’t finish every single count for every single race on election night it means they didn’t know shit to draw any conclusion that night

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:22:26pm

re: #460 Belafon

I’ve seen people ask why there were protests outside Pelosi’s office. The answer is that it’s easier to change the mind of someone close to you than someone who doesn’t agree at all.

That’s true. I don’t mind the protests themselves. I mind the people who talk about Nancy in the same breath they do the other three I mentioned and there are people on the left who do that. AOC despite the attempts to suggest isn’t one of those people.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:23:22pm

GOP: “You can’t change the rules after the game has ended!”

Also GOP: “Any votes not counted on Election Night, even those who abide by state guidelines on postmarks, don’t go towards the vote totals!”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:25:15pm

There’s also no rule you must concede. Concession is merely common courtesy. Hell I didn’t see anything that suggested that Corey Stewart conceded to Kaine and Kaine beat Stewart by a big margin without the outcome being in doubt.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:25:46pm

re: #445 MsJ

The 22nd Amendment says “elected” not that they can’t rise to the office via succession.

They could have Obama serve as SOTH and be elevated to POTUS through the order of succession.

It strikes me that this would become an issue before the SC. It’s traumatic enough to have a Speaker become President; it would certainly lead to even more dissension if there were questions about the Speaker’s eligibility to hold the office.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:26:58pm

re: #465 HappyWarrior

There’s also no rule you must concede. Concession is merely common courtesy. Hell I didn’t see anything that suggested that Corey Stewart conceded to Kaine and Kaine beat Stewart by a big margin without the outcome being in doubt.

Moore refused to concede for weeks after the election, even after the election results were certified.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:27:10pm

re: #466 Hecuba’s daughter

It strikes me that this would become an issue before the SC. It’s traumatic enough to have a Speaker become President; it would certainly lead to even more dissension if there were questions about the Speaker’s eligibility to hold the office.

Right, that’s why I wouldn’t want Obama as Speaker. Besides it’s not like Nancy is incapable of being Speaker and with respect to President Obama, Nancy’s better at it. She’s actually been Speaker before and done a good job. I don’t mind shit turning out to piss off the Republicans but I don’t want a prolonged court battle simply to Po the Cons.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:27:33pm

re: #467 Targetpractice

Moore refused to concede for weeks after the election, even after the election results were certified.

Yep that’s right.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:28:27pm

re: #466 Hecuba’s daughter

It strikes me that this would become an issue before the SC. It’s traumatic enough to have a Speaker become President; it would certainly lead to even more dissension if there were questions about the Speaker’s eligibility to hold the office.

I know. I was just saying the text of the amendment wouldn’t disqualify Mr. Obama.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:29:26pm

re: #470 MsJ

I know. I was just saying the text of the amendment wouldn’t disqualify Mr. Obama.

Absolutely. TBH we never would have had the term limit law if FDR had been a Republican. I’m fine with it existing but the reasons why the Republicans pushed it was big time jealously over FDR’s popularity with the country.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:29:42pm
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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:30:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:30:39pm

re: #472 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Looking great guys. //

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stpaulbear  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:30:56pm

Wow. I just hit 25K Karma.

But who’s counting…

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freetoken  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:31:10pm

So I’ve been perusing Zillow for some unknown reason, and looking at houses for sale I am reminded once again how bad the 1970’s were.

The downward spiral in housing design and construction really started in the 1960’s as the demand for housing shot up, but it was the 1970’s when we saw the ascension of pretension.

And the flippers do their cheap remodels but often it only makes things worse.

For example, so many of these houses have low ceilings, not even 9’. The flippers install cheap ceiling fan/light combos that then drop another couple of feet. I marvel at the stupidity.

And for the photos for the properties, the flippers bring in rental furniture… that are about two sizes too big for the rooms, leaving barely enough space to move around.

And so on.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:31:53pm

re: #475 stpaulbear

Wow. I just hit 25K Karma.

But who’s counting…

Congrats man.

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MsJ  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:32:23pm

re: #475 stpaulbear

Wow. I just hit 25K Karma.

But who’s counting…

You apparently. 😉😁😂

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:32:30pm

re: #475 stpaulbear

Wow. I just hit 25K Karma.

But who’s counting…

Charles.

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dangerman  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:32:59pm

re: #475 stpaulbear

Wow. I just hit 25K Karma.

But who’s counting…

Apparently, …. you are

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HappyWarrior  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:33:01pm

re: #476 freetoken

So I’ve been perusing Zillow for some unknown reason, and looking at houses for sale I am reminded once again how bad the 1970’s were.

The downward spiral in housing design and construction really started in the 1960’s as the demand for housing shot up, but it was the 1970’s when we saw the ascension of pretension.

And the flippers do their cheap remodels but often it only makes things worse.

For example, so many of these houses have low ceilings, not even 9’. The flippers install cheap ceiling fan/light combos that then drop another couple of feet. I marvel at the stupidity.

And for the photos for the properties, the flippers bring in rental furniture… that are about two sizes too big for the rooms, leaving barely enough space to move around.

And so on.

Golden age of the cookie cutter sports stadium though they were all multi-purpose and probably more practical than a lot of the more modern stadiums that are only one use mostly but these modern stadiums may last longer too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:33:02pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:33:33pm

re: #477 HappyWarrior

Congrats man.

Thanks. I’m kind of glad that it’s going to be dead-threaded.

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retired cynic  Nov 13, 2018 • 7:34:03pm

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

I almost hate Mcconnell more than Trump.

He knows what he is doing.

But that said, I still hate Trump more.


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