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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:59:34am

I wonder if Mueller will write a book about all the shit he’s been through someday?

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Kragar  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:01:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:02:34pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:03:44pm

re: #2 Kragar

I want DJT to retweet Dumbo Mitchell’s anti-fa-is-starting-the-California-fires claim. Then the circle of derp will have completed its circumference around the sun.

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Kragar  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:04:01pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

John Barron and David Dennison told him that happened.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:04:10pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Mueller will write a book about all the shit he’s been through someday?

Movie!! Documentary!! Mueller deserves much more than just a book. Statues and monuments.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:05:12pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:05:29pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Another day in Amercia as president Ragey McGrumpy lies and spouts loony conspiracy theories on wingnut radio.

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ericblair  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:05:42pm

re: #378 Dr Lizardo

But it might get through the British Parliament.

In her statement after the cabinet meeting, I noticed PM May slyly included “…or no Brexit” in her words.

What she can do is threaten the hardcore Euroskeptic Tories that she’s gonna pull the plug on Brexit, which is arguably, perhaps their worst nightmare. So she can use that as a cudgel; whether that works or not of course remains to be seen.

Maybe, but then you have to realize that the professional Brexiteers are mostly crooks, opportunists, and racists/nuts.

The crooks know Brexit would suck, and are shorting the market and expecting to make bank on creating a banana republic tax haven off the coast of Europe. You probably could threaten them into accepting a deal, but if it’s still got decent financial and worker protections in it there’s no point for them.

The opportunists are the biggest component. This was an internal Tory power battle that got out of hand, and the opportunists never expected to win. They expected to lose and campaign on how much better everything would have been with a hypothetical Brexit. They’re the dogs that caught the car. These include Johnson, May, and the actual politicians. They would probably be relieved if they were “forced” into cancelling Brexit.

The racists and nuts are just that. They want Johnny Foreigner out, they want Britain to rule the waves again, they think that all will tremble before the might of the Empire, and they won’t listen to reason. They’re the MAGAts, and of course they’ll still want Brexit.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:07:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:08:25pm

moron

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:10:09pm

re: #9 ericblair

It’s possible that this whole shit sandwich might yet bring down her government; also, PM May is scheduled to meet with the DUP’s Arlene Foster in about 20 minutes or so and I think Foster’s not gonna be happy. If she pulls the DUP’s support, the Tories are (if I’m correct in this) going to find themselves a minority party.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:10:48pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

President Trump accuses people of changing their clothes and returning to cast additional ballots in disguise. (there’s no evidence of this) “Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again.”

got any proof of this?
even one person?
no?
then stfu donny

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:10:58pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

This kind of sucking up is really out of character, the internal polling on his bullshit blame California tweets must have been absolutely cataclysmic.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:11:35pm
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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:12:08pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Florida Man Breaks Into Restaurant, Strips Naked, Eats Noodles He Brought From Home and Plays Bongos

*sigh*

i gotta move outta here

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ericblair  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:12:19pm

re: #9 ericblair

I have to add, though, that countermining this is a kind of political monomania that sets in with this kind of bullshit commitment. Everybody can know it’s a stupid, suicidal idea, but That’s What We Decided To Do and So We’re Going To Do It. The people have spoken, we’re going to make bloody sure they don’t speak again, and the Will of Some People (minus a bunch of nonresidents who are personally affected, and addled by a bunch of Russia-influenced psy ops) Will Be Done.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:12:58pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

Florida Man Breaks Into Restaurant, Strips Naked, Eats Noodles He Brought From Home and Plays Bongos

Who among us has not…

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:14:08pm

re: #18 jaunte

Who among us has not…

ok, yeah though not with bongos

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Sir John Barron  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:15:12pm

re: #13 dangerman

got any proof of this?
even one person?
no?
then stfu donny

He probably talked to someone who read a tweet from someone who read a report somewhere on the Internet that described someone who might have gone to their car near a place where voting took place to put on or take off their coat because of the cold/hot.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:16:49pm

re: #19 dangerman

ok, yeah though not with bongos

What was Sheldon Cooper doing in Florida?

Sheldon plays Bongos.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:17:51pm

re: #19 dangerman

The noodles were takeout.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:17:57pm

re: #9 ericblair

Maybe, but then you have to realize that the professional Brexiteers are mostly crooks, opportunists, and racists/nuts.

The crooks know Brexit would suck, and are shorting the market and expecting to make bank on creating a banana republic tax haven off the coast of Europe. You probably could threaten them into accepting a deal, but if it’s still got decent financial and worker protections in it there’s no point for them.

The opportunists are the biggest component. This was an internal Tory power battle that got out of hand, and the opportunists never expected to win. They expected to lose and campaign on how much better everything would have been with a hypothetical Brexit. They’re the dogs that caught the car. These include Johnson, May, and the actual politicians. They would probably be relieved if they were “forced” into cancelling Brexit.

The racists and nuts are just that. They want Johnny Foreigner out, they want Britain to rule the waves again, they think that all will tremble before the might of the Empire, and they won’t listen to reason. They’re the MAGAts, and of course they’ll still want Brexit.

Not Johnson, he’s a hard core asshole.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:18:53pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

It’s possible that this whole shit sandwich might yet bring down her government; also, PM May is scheduled to meet with the DUP’s Arlene Foster in about 20 minutes or so and I think Foster’s not gonna be happy. If she pulls the DUP’s support, the Tories are (if I’m correct in this) going to find themselves a minority party.

With Corbyn being the alternative?

The UK is fucked. There simply are no adults there any longer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:20:01pm

re: #24 MsJ

With Corbyn being the alternative?

The UK is fucked. There simply are no adults there any longer.

Someone begs to differ:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:20:04pm

re: #24 MsJ

With Corbyn being the alternative?

The UK is fucked. There simply are no adults there any longer.

Yeah Labour isn’t much better right now. Corbyn is Bernie on roids.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:20:53pm

I was thinking about McConnell’s “filling the court’s statement.” I would look for him to try to eliminite more of the minority party’s levers. He hopes he can get enough people on that more rulings start going the GOPs way, and he doesn’t have to worry about the consequences. He’ll be wrong, but that’s what he’s thinking.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:20:58pm

re: #19 dangerman

ok, yeah though not with bongos

ROTFLMFAO!

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:21:42pm
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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:22:52pm

Colbert doing the Axl dance is everything.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:23:29pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Yeah Labour isn’t much better right now. Corbyn is Bernie on roids.

Corbyn himself is pro-Brexit. Like I said, no adults.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:23:34pm

re: #29 jaunte

and just how does the guy in the blue jacket actually know that Acosta is NOT?

I’ll go sit in the corner now…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:24:11pm

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:24:15pm

re: #23 MsJ

Not Johnson, he’s a hard core asshole.

Would it surprise you to know that Boris Johnson and Andrew Sullivan have been friends since college?

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:25:00pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

and just how does the guy in the blue jacket actually know that Acosta is NOT?

I’ll go sit in the corner now…

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:25:24pm

re: #34 sagehen

Would it surprise you to know that Boris Johnson and Andrew Sullivan have been friends since college?

Not in the least.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:25:30pm

re: #29 jaunte

To which Acosta should have reminded him that his views on the press are better fit in Cuba where Jim’s father fled.

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:25:41pm

re: #29 jaunte

Are you sure he didn’t say “awfully well-hung”?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:26:24pm

re: #34 sagehen

Would it surprise you to know that Boris Johnson and Andrew Sullivan have been friends since college?

Only because I thought Sully was ten years older otherwise nope. They’re both prick pretzels.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:26:52pm

re: #29 jaunte

Violent angry fire-setting antifa Leftists are so angry and violent.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:27:06pm

re: #31 MsJ

Corbyn himself is pro-Brexit. Like I said, no adults.

Exactly he’s awful. Labour made a big mistake with him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:27:23pm

So happy to see Tom Mac Arthur lose his house seat! That’s what he deserves for lead sponsoring the Obamacare repeal bill!

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:28:49pm

re: #42 Joe Bacon 🌹

So happy to see Tom Mac Arthur lose his house seat! That’s what he deserves for lead sponsoring the Obamacare repeal bill!

Andy seems like a good guy too. Seeing a lot of 80’s babies in this new House.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:29:45pm

re: #40 Sir John Barron

RWNJs are mad at Acosta because of Sarah Sanders’ false accusation.
“He put his hands on one of Trump’s (white) women.”

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ericblair  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:29:49pm

re: #31 MsJ

Corbyn himself is pro-Brexit. Like I said, no adults.

Yep, he’s a paleo Trotskyite who thinks that the EU is a neoliberal plot and hates it because the Soviet Union hated it. His cunning plan, which he refuses to articulate, is to force another election so Labour will be elected with him as PM, and continue with Brexit as the Great Lexit of his dreams where the EU wouldn’t interfere with him nationalizing the railroads and steel mills. Most of the stuff that the left wants to do that is actually politically viable is perfectly doable within the EU (yanno, Denmark and Sweden do just fine in it), but he’s not listening. Also, the masses are yearning for true socialism but just haven’t had the right leader: where have we heard that one before?

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:30:42pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Exactly he’s awful. Labour made a big mistake with him.

My understanding is that Corbyn wasn’t the people’s choice, he was the party’s choice.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:30:53pm

re: #44 jaunte

RWNJs are mad at Acosta because of Sarah Sanders’ false accusation.
“He put his hands on one of Trump’s (white) women.”

That and because Acosta has been. asking. our. great. MAGA. potus. questions.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:32:40pm

re: #46 MsJ

My understanding is that Corbyn wasn’t the people’s choice, he was the party’s choice.

That’s correct. I didn’t like Blair’s new Labour tbh but at least he wasn’t indifferent or okay with bigotry.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:34:51pm

re: #45 ericblair

Yep, he’s a paleo Trotskyite who thinks that the EU is a neoliberal plot and hates it because the Soviet Union hated it. His cunning plan, which he refuses to articulate, is to force another election so Labour will be elected with him as PM, and continue with Brexit as the Great Lexit of his dreams where the EU wouldn’t interfere with him nationalizing the railroads and steel mills. Most of the stuff that the left wants to do that is actually politically viable is perfectly doable within the EU (yanno, Denmark and Sweden do just fine in it), but he’s not listening. Also, the masses are yearning for true socialism but just haven’t had the right leader: where have we heard that one before?

He’s a throwback of the worst kind. Reminds me of that jackass George Galloway who was so obnoxious I supported Hitchens in their debate on Iraq and I opposed Iraq to the point of protesting it!

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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:36:32pm

Twitter tells me this is National Pickle Day.

And that it is World Diabetes Day.

Odd juxtaposition.

Still, Americans would be much better off eating more pickles and drinking less sugary drinks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:39:23pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:41:08pm

I got a text message from the Ohio Democratic Party asking to call a phone number to the Ohio Legislation Assembly because the Ohio Republicans are trying to push through a damn “Stand Your Ground” law. Ohio HB 228.

Grrrrrrr! Fuck no!

So I called my State Rep and emailed her too and told her that’s a big no from me. Of course my district is a Democrat Rep, but they are outnumbered by Republicans.

You want an example of how John Kasich does these things? Here you go. Under cover of night and without public input. Surprise.

And that is how he would operate if he runs for President. Fuck Kasich.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:42:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:44:03pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mattis needs to stop being dishonest. This isn’t about legal or illegal immigration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:44:20pm
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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:45:36pm

Katie Porter has taken the lead against Mimi Walters in a district entirely within Orange County CA. Less than 500 votes separate them, so it could go back to Walters. But that’s huge

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:46:02pm

re: #52 ObserverArt

I got a text message from the Ohio Democratic Party asking to call a phone number to the Ohio Legislation Assembly because the Ohio Republicans are trying to push through a damn “Stand Your Ground” law. Ohio HB 228.

Grrrrrrr! Fuck no!

So I called my State Rep and emailed her too and told her that’s a big no from me. Of course my district is a Democrat Rep, but they are outnumbered by Republicans.

You want an example of how John Kasich does these things? Here you go. Under cover of night and without public input. Surprise.

And that is how he would operate if he runs for President. Fuck Kasich.

There may be some decent people somewhere in the Republican party but they don’t appear to hold elective office. I am going to wait on Dan Crenshaw since he actually demonstrated grace and compassion on Saturday. Let’s see if he manages to escape the poison that infests all Washington Republicans these days.

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ericblair  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:47:22pm

re: #46 MsJ

My understanding is that Corbyn wasn’t the people’s choice, he was the party’s choice.

I wouldn’t put it quite that way. In most other countries, party membership is a lot smaller and means more than in the US: you’re expected to actually go to meetings and hang flyers and stuff envelopes and the rest of it. A few years ago, the former Labour leader made it a lot easier to become a party member, and made other changes that made it easier for outsiders to be elected. Corbyn was a gadfly backbencher for decades, and really hadn’t done anything outside of protests. He was added as a candidate essentially as a sop to the left. The left wing of the party saw an opportunity to get thousands and thousands of new members signed up to the party who had no ties to the party, and just wanted to tick the box for Corbyn. This was enough to tip the scales and get him a win. After that, the new members just sort of faded into clicktivism.

Once he won, of course, the rebel turned to wiping out any opposition within the party and sort of ignoring the Tories. The parliamentary party, who are the MPs actually elected by the people, saw their institutional power get yanked. There was an attempted takeover by some of the MPs (called the chicken coup), which failed and brought another round of purges.

So it was classic lefty entryism, where a number of warm bodies took over an existing power structure without any real commitment to the structure itself.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:48:49pm

re: #56 KGxvi

would be a huge upset, she (walters) won her last election by 17 points in 2016.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:49:19pm
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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:49:22pm

Installed a security update to OSX… took forever and caused a few minor problems.

Now I want TimeMachine to do a backup, and as usual with an operating system change, Time Machine seems to take forever “calculating” the changes.

This may take all day.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:49:52pm

re: #56 KGxvi

Katie Porter has taken the lead against Mimi Walters in a district entirely within Orange County CA. Less than 500 votes separate them, so it could go back to Walters. But that’s huge

Is that Nixon’s home turf?

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Kragar  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:50:33pm
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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:51:36pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Is that Nixon’s home turf?

I thought that was in the seat that Car Thief just gave up?

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:54:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:55:24pm

re: #64 freetoken

I thought that was in the seat that Car Thief just gave up?

I dunno. Not familiar with California geography.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:55:47pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
This guy. The con game just gets more and more obvious.

Trump would probably fall for a hat and shirt change at a polling station because that is how unaware he really is at all times.

Every day he proves how much he is unfit for office life on earth.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 12:57:51pm

re: #44 jaunte

RWNJs are mad at Acosta because of Sarah Sanders’ false accusation.
“He put his hands on one of Trump’s (white) women.”

So if Acosta assaulted that White woman, why isn’t the White House insisting that charges be filed against him?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:04:43pm
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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:06:07pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:09:42pm

re: #70 MsJ

But there is a Blue Wall mandate.

That is surely the excuse Republicans would make had they again taken the House majority.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:11:23pm
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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:15:05pm

re: #7 gocart mozart

that’s just offensive. rick scott is many things, but somebody who would eat noodles he brought from home is not one of them.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:15:47pm

Stephen Colbert does a pretty good impression of Axl Rose, tbh.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:16:48pm

re: #68 Patricia Kayden

They couldn’t make it stick because there was video. Even with the manipulated version.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:17:58pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:22:18pm

re: #70 MsJ

They should. What’s stopping them? Why haven’t they already passed legislation to build that dang wall?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:24:30pm
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:25:42pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

“My name is Andrew Jackson. See, right here on my ID.”

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:27:26pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Is that Nixon’s home turf?

Close, but no. It’s more south county, it does include Anaheim Hills, but Yorba Linda/Fullerton is the Young v Ciscernos race that includes part of LA County, and Young is currently winning that one, but the lead is less than a 1,000

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:28:59pm

re: #59 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

would be a huge upset, she (walters) won her last election by 17 points in 2016.

Clinton won the district in 2016, and it was a target because Walters went close to full Trump and voted to repeal the ACA and for that terrible tax deal.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:29:58pm

re: #80 KGxvi

Close, but no. It’s more south county, it does include Anaheim Hills, but Yorba Linda/Fullerton is the Young v Ciscernos race that includes part of LA County, and Young is currently winning that one, but the lead is less than a 1,000

Ahhh close!

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:33:57pm

re: #15 Patricia Kayden

I would pay to see Roger Stone in an orange jumpsuit.

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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:34:08pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Stephen Colbert does a pretty good impression of Axl Rose, tbh.

His Axl dance was on point.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:36:56pm

re: #38 sagehen

Are you sure he didn’t say “awfully well-hung”?

“They said you was hung!”
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blueraven  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:40:52pm

Is Jeff Flake finally putting his money where his mouth has been for years? I guess we will see.

He just threatened to not vote on any judicial nominees until McConnell allows his “Protect Mueller” bill on the floor.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:41:19pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

They should. What’s stopping them? Why haven’t they already passed legislation to build that dang wall?

Mexico’s payment hasn’t cleared yet. 🙄

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:41:55pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

I’m confused?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:42:38pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

They should. What’s stopping them? Why haven’t they already passed legislation to build that dang wall?

Legislating is HARD!!!

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Kilroy was here  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:43:04pm

Oh boy.. The concern fairy is at it again.
Flake says he’ll oppose judicial nominees until Mueller bill gets vote
thehill.com

No.. no one wants him as President..

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Kragar  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:43:15pm
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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:46:04pm
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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:46:09pm

One year my buddies and I switched out costumes for trick or treat to get more candy.
//

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Kragar  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:46:33pm
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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:47:06pm

re: #92 MsJ
I LITERALLY FUCKING CAN’T EVEN.

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Skip Intro  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:48:01pm

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

They should. What’s stopping them? Why haven’t they already passed legislation to build that dang wall?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:48:37pm

re: #94 Kragar

Yeah we know your thugs actually kill people instead of triggering a racist loser.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:51:09pm
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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:51:17pm

re: #96 Skip Intro

“Just like the real wall, you can go right around the end!”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:52:41pm

This looks quite promising:

THE FAVOURITE | Official Trailer | FOX Searchlight

it opens on 11/23 in the US. And it’s generating some serious Oscar buzz as well.

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:54:05pm

re: #98 MsJ

…..
The Hoarse Whisperer
@HoarseWisperer
Fox News brainwashed them into loving Trump.

Fox News is now going to brainwash them out of it.

You watch.

I doubt it. The Trump base can turn to OANN to provide their dose of Trump love.

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:55:44pm

re: #101 Hecuba’s daughter

I doubt it. The Trump base can turn to OANN to provide their dose of Trump love.

I’m curious as to where Breitbart stands.

Just not enough to visit that sewer.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:56:34pm

re: #102 MsJ

I’m curious as to where Breitbart stands.

Just not enough to visit that sewer.

With Trump I bet.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 1:59:33pm

Shot:

In a grim sign for the Northern California utility giant, Pacific Gas & Electric said Wednesday that if it is deemed responsible for the fire that destroyed much of Paradise, the liability would exceed its insurance coverage.

The cause of California’s most destructive and deadly wildlife has not yet been determined. But PG&E said a transmission line in the area went offline 15 minutes before the fire was first reported, and the company found a damaged transmission tower near where investigators said the fire began. Investigations are underway on the cause of the Camp fire, which has destroyed more than 7,000 homes and killed at least 48 people.

Chaser:

PG&E shares have dropped over 20% in value today.

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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:02:35pm

‘Several’ investigations? Hmm.

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TedStriker  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:04:35pm

re: #85 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

“And they was right!”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:05:26pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:06:35pm
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Jay C  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:08:57pm

re: #79 Belafon

“My name is Andrew Jackson. See, right here on my ID.”

“Sorry, you’ll have to take it up with our poll supervisor; Dr. Franklin….”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:12:26pm

re: #108 gocart mozart

ACO is a lot more practical than she’s given credit for. She knows she agrees with Pelosi more than not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:12:44pm
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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:13:33pm

Damn. A million views in a day.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:13:59pm

Damn it. The fucking House Republicans of Ohio passed that Stand Your Ground Law.

Kasich surprisingly said he would veto it.

However, it passed with enough votes to get by his veto.

Fucking assholes from the areas of Ohio that are not parts of the bigger urban areas.

Some of those fuckers would never even need a stand your ground law.

Arrrrrgh!

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TedStriker  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:15:22pm

re: #79 Belafon

“My name is Andrew Jackson. See, right here on my ID.”

re: #109 Jay C

“Sorry, you’ll have to take it up with our poll supervisor; Dr. Franklin….”

Emmett Fitz-Hume: Oh. Uh, will you hold my wallet for me while I take the test, please? There’s a thousand dollars in there… or maybe there isn’t. Know what I mean?
Test Monitor: Are you saying I can take this money if I help you pass the test?
Emmett Fitz-Hume: What do you think?

Spies Like Us Test scene.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:15:32pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well well that sounds like exactly the same thing they accuse the ill eagles of but it’s okay because Tommy is a brother bigot.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:15:49pm

A week or so ago we had the Rocket City Trash Pandas
This week…

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:22:01pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

Wingnuts know this is bullshit, but they just don’t care.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:22:12pm

re: #112 makeitstop

That video made my day!! That’s exactly how our journalists should treat liars. Call them out. Make them squirm. Don’t let them get away with lying.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:23:00pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:24:05pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m surprised this regime didn’t find a way to give him a Visa. He’s definitely one of Trump’s “good people”.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:24:15pm
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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:24:54pm

re: #116 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Minor league teams are always creative

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:26:18pm

re: #13 dangerman

got any proof of this?
even one person?
no?
then stfu donny

I DUNNO, YOU TELL ME!! PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OK!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:26:18pm

USASOC = United States Army Special Operations Command
SFAS = Special Forces Assessment and Selection
Q Course = Special Forces Qualification Course
i.e. Green Berets

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:28:42pm

re: #91 Kragar

Heh,

I think I have an old Photoshop for that.

It can also be worn if you are just a plain old fraud.

Paul Ryan? Why no, I am not Paul Ryan. Sorry.
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:31:03pm

Ouch

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:31:23pm
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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:33:26pm

re: #70 MsJ

A half-dozen rank-and-file GOP lawmakers stood up in conference this morning to say they’re still in the majority for now and need to push for The Wall …

at every opportunity:

trump said, actually promised, dozens of times Mexico would pay for the wall

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:36:00pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

Trump makes false claim about voter ID: “If you buy a box of cereal — you have a voter ID”

did no one ask “what does that even mean?”

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:36:46pm

re: #129 dangerman

did no one ask “what does that even mean?”

Forget it; he’s rollin.

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Jay C  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:37:41pm

re: #129 dangerman

did no one ask “what does that even mean?”

I did! I did!
And still can’t figure it out….!

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:40:06pm

Just heard a little story on local NBC news regarding Mattis visiting the troops on the border.

Quote (paraphrased)”I don’t foresee our troops coming into contact with the immigrants”

Well then…

Fucking Trump Clown Show™

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:40:08pm

Related to the JJ MacNab thread I I shared downstairs
re: #390 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:40:40pm

re: #129 dangerman

did no one ask “what does that even mean?”

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:43:32pm

re: #94 Kragar

“The opposition to antifa”

….is “fa”

is this some kind of musical thing?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:44:01pm

re: #135 dangerman

….is “fa”

is this some kind of musical thing?

So?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:44:31pm

re: #136 Decatur Deb

So?

la la la la la…can’t hear you…

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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:44:48pm

re: #133 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Related to the JJ MacNab thread I I shared downstairs

Them dudes just looked all sickly.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:45:16pm

re: #121 gocart mozart

“Try your best not to think about how fucking pointless this is.”

…and as the guy in charge, how stupid i look

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:45:48pm

re: #138 makeitstop

Them dudes just looked all sickly.

Unter-the-weather menschen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:46:18pm

re: #92 MsJ

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:47:33pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well-endowed. One assumes this is not about sizeable trust funds.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:48:58pm

re: #134 jaunte

Just noticed that huh or dis hating Clinton mean more than preventing a waxkjob from being potus.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:51:14pm

re: #142 Decatur Deb

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:52:23pm

re: #134 jaunte

Brian J. Karem

@BrianKarem
From a close GOP source: “It is impossible to defend any Trump policy because he is nuts”@realDonaldTrump

14.4K
3:13 PM - Nov 13, 2018

Then why isn’t a single Republican in office doing anything about him? “Profiles in Cowardice” or “Profiles in Treason”? It’s either one or the other.

If Jeff Flake and Bob Corker really wanted to do something to help, they would caucus with the Dems and throw McConnell out (at least till January). That would be useful. Anything less, and they are both worthless trash.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:53:53pm

Sleuth!

I see there are conditions predicted for some ice/sleet/rain to hit Ohio and upper parts of Kentucky.

Yuck! I hate the transitional seasons of late fall into winter and late winter into fall. Ripe for this kind of mess. I’d take snow over ice any day.

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:57:22pm

re: #144 Amory Blaine

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I had that shirt! Dark brown and gray. Wore it for years (never with the top button buttoned). My glasses weren’t quite that bad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:58:41pm

re: #146 ObserverArt

Sleuth!

I see there are conditions predicted for some ice/sleet/rain to hit Ohio and upper parts of Kentucky.

Yuck! I hate the transitional seasons of late fall into winter and late winter into fall. Ripe for this kind of mess. I’d take snow over ice any day.

yep. At least it’s not as dire as originally forecast: less than .1 inch of ice instead of .3, so that’s good

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:59:18pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

womp womp

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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:59:42pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

womp womp

Gone. What was it?

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TedStriker  Nov 14, 2018 • 2:59:51pm

re: #122 KGxvi

Minor league teams are always creative

Sometimes, though, that creativity (minors or majors) goes way, WAY wrong (and becomes a legend):
10-Cent Beer Night (Cleveland; 1974): en.wikipedia.org
Disco Demolition Night (Chicago: 1979): en.wikipedia.org

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:00:46pm

If I’m counting right, and assuming Young holds on to win, the GOP will only hold 9 of the 53 House seats from California. In at least a couple of seats, the GOP didn’t even make the general election ballot. We also saw two statewide elections (Lt Gov and the Senate) where a Republican didn’t make it to the general.

With our top two primary system, the future is going to be very interesting. Some people think Poizner’s run as an independent for insurance commissioner might be a preview of the future (especially with independents now outnumbering Republicans). But Poizner was a Republican who held statewide office before, he has the network you need to run a campaign in a state this large with three very expensive media markets.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:01:08pm

re: #129 dangerman

did no one ask “what does that even mean?”

Probably not.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:01:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:01:55pm

re: #150 MsJ

Gone. What was it?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:02:37pm

re: #154 VegasGolfer

Oh dear.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:03:20pm

There was a chyron on my local news this morning that said something to the effect, ” democrat X steals seat.” Using the same language as the gop.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:04:03pm

re: #154 VegasGolfer

There goes his dream of being President.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:04:32pm

Unless he runs as a republican.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:05:27pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good. Jordan is a dangerous fool. McCarthy is just a fool.

Nancy will kick his ass.

Actually I think any Democrat can kick his ass.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:05:35pm

re: #158 Kilroy was here

There goes his dream of being President.

He should find a good lawyer.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:05:45pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:06:39pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Why don’t I believe Flakey Jeff?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:06:43pm
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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:07:00pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shame he wasn’t willing to do this when Kavanaugh was up

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:07:10pm
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Jay C  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:07:43pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Presumably those 43 votes for Jordan were the Free Dumb Caucus? Who will, unfortunately, still be around in the 116th. And still make McCarthy’s job miserable: at least as the Minority, the odds of their damaging the country have severely diminished.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:07:51pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

He should find a good lawyer.

“Says Who” Cohen?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:08:23pm

re: #152 KGxvi

..

With our top two primary system, the future is going to be very interesting. Some people think Poizner’s run as an independent for insurance commissioner might be a preview of the future (especially with independents now outnumbering Republicans). But Poizner was a Republican who held statewide office before, he has the network you need to run a campaign in a state this large with three very expensive media markets.

As I’ve said before, I am so not a fan of the jungle primary. So what happens if 10 D’s run and 2 R’s run — and each D gets 8% of the total vote while each R gets 10%. So the 2 R’s will be in the election, even though 80% favored D? Although this is an unlikely scenario, it is certainly possible.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:10:30pm

re: #167 Jay C

Presumably those 43 votes for Jordan were the Free Dumb Caucus? Who will, unfortunately, still be around in the 116th. And still make McCarthy’s job miserable: at least as the Minority, the odds of their damaging the country have severely diminished.

Actually, in the minority, the Freedom Caucus has no real power. The Dems don’t really need Republican votes, if they can hold enough of their caucus. Which gives Dems the ability to pry a few Republican votes here and there.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:10:40pm

“I’ve just put to you multiple lies and you haven’t been able to respond to any of them.”

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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:13:06pm

That pinhead Roger Stone is gonna go down hard. I’ll go dance in the middle of the street when he finally gets his.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:13:27pm

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:13:29pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:13:33pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read that in the WP this mornining. I thought it was a joke. I mean who can tell anymore with this cast of lunatics and con men?

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Skip Intro  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:14:20pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No you won’t.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:15:11pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

I wanted to read that but with their triple-checking my adblocker status I decided fuck them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:15:41pm

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He’s not saying the Senate has to actually protect Mueller………………….

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:16:51pm

re: #157 Amory Blaine

There was a chyron on my local news this morning that said something to the effect, ” democrat X steals seat.” Using the same language as the gop.

A couple days ago someone on CNN or MSNBC used that terminology — to mean that a Democrat won a traditionally Republican seat and not implying any illegal actions. It was really annoying and potential explosive phrasing since someone on the right could select that comment and post it on youtube with the allegation that even the left admits the Dems are engaging in dishonest vote tampering to win.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:17:01pm

re: #169 Hecuba’s daughter

As I’ve said before, I am so not a fan of the jungle primary. So what happens if 10 D’s run and 2 R’s run — and each D gets 8% of the total vote while each R gets 10%. So the 2 R’s will be in the election, even though 80% favored D? Although this is an unlikely scenario, it is certainly possible.

It’s a fair criticism. One of the problems we had before the jungle primary was that the GOP had a closed primary and the Democrats had an semi-open primary (Democrats and Independents could vote in their primaries). So we’d have situations where the second place Democrat in a statewide primary was getting more votes than the winning Republican. And the general elections were nowhere near competitive.

That hasn’t helped our general elections, since Newsom beat Cox 61-39. And we’re seeing a lot of undervotes in elections with two Democrats (as of the most recent tally, 9.3m voted for governor, only 7.6m voted for Lt Gov, and 8.2m voted in the Senate election).

2022 could be interesting, because about half of our statewide officers are going to be termed out. So it’ll be interesting to see who runs for what.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:19:28pm

Seriously…fuck this guy.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:20:53pm

Not good, Facebook.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:21:07pm

Whoa nellie.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:21:48pm
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:22:03pm

re: #178 GlutenFreeJesus

He’s not saying the Senate has to actually protect Mueller………………….

Just vote on legislation to protect Mueller. Flake is being flaky again.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:22:09pm

re: #173 GlutenFreeJesus

I am curious how the college one will work. Does it only work for instate tuition at public universities? Do students at private schools get some sort of subsidy? And what about those of us who have outstanding student loans, do we get some sort of relief?

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:22:27pm

This one made me laugh.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:23:13pm

I can hear Trump already.

Maybe he could skip the stupid comments this time, since we all know what he’s going to say? No? Too much to ask?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:23:53pm

re: #173 GlutenFreeJesus

Notice that Fox News is highlighting women of color in their scare tactics. They can’t stop blowing that dog whistle.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:25:34pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

I can hear Trump already.

Maybe he could skip the stupid comments this time, since we all know what he’s going to say? No? Too much to ask?

He’ll overplay it. He won’t be able to help himself. The guy has been on a five day ragegasm and finally he sees an opportunity.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:25:35pm

re: #173 GlutenFreeJesus

I am starting to like her….

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:25:44pm
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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:25:50pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

Just vote on legislation to protect Mueller. Flake is being flaky again.

It’s meaningless. Unless there’s 67 votes so they could override the inevitable Trump veto, getting three Republicans to join the Democrats to pass legislation by a 52-48 margin is not going to do anything.

It’s similar to the Russian sanctions bill that Trump had to sign right after he became president.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:27:12pm

re: #186 KGxvi

I am curious how the college one will work. Does it only work for instate tuition at public universities? Do students at private schools get some sort of subsidy? And what about those of us who have outstanding student loans, do we get some sort of relief?

They don’t even have the answers.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:27:41pm

Trump’s using the military to build his wall.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:28:17pm

re: #191 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am starting to like her….

She will bring a level of come-back snark via twitter that the old guard just doesn’t have. Definitely.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:28:25pm

re: #174 darthstar

Darth,

I asked a few days ago how the doggos are doing lately? Got any recent images? I miss seeing them.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:29:42pm

re: #196 GlutenFreeJesus

She will bring a level of come-back snark via twitter that the old guard just doesn’t have. Definitely.

Yup. And that is a breath of fresh air IMO. We need people who will fight back.

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Interesting Times  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:32:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:33:34pm

re: #154 VegasGolfer

He should try running as a Republican. They like that sort of thing.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:34:00pm

re: #194 GlutenFreeJesus

They don’t even have the answers.

To be honest, I don’t mind that they don’t necessarily have the answers yet. A big idea isn’t always a bad place to start, working out the details on the way is fine.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:37:22pm

Gee, Avenatti will have to switch parties now. It’s happened before.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:38:24pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

Whoa nellie.

If Stormy Daniels get pissed at Avenatti and drops him as her lawyer, she would kill his career. It is going to be very interesting to see how this tough guy acts now that his ass is in trouble.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:39:39pm

re: #172 makeitstop

That [Zippy the] pinhead Roger Stone is gonna go down hard. I’ll go dance in the middle of the street when he finally gets his.

I hadn’t made that connection, but thank you.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:40:36pm

re: #186 KGxvi

I am curious how the college one will work. Does it only work for instate tuition at public universities? Do students at private schools get some sort of subsidy? And what about those of us who have outstanding student loans, do we get some sort of relief?

My guess is that refers only to instate tuition at public universities on a prospective basis; and that private schools would not get any subsidy. However, it’s not clear how this would work since public universities are not run by the federal government but by the state government.

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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:42:34pm

re: #204 Barefoot Grin

I hadn’t made that connection, but thank you.

This photo points it right out.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:44:31pm

Ari Melber is currently ripping on news coverage of The Caravan™. He has taken on mocking Fox and even mentioned the NYTimes and WaPo coverage prior to and after the election. He showed footage of growling Trump in the rallies before the election and mentioned Trump hasn’t said anything about it since the election.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:44:43pm

This is so cool

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:46:54pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

This is so cool

It’s been 57 years since I left Japan. I still dream about it.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:48:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:48:42pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:52:25pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

and just how does the guy in the blue jacket actually know that Acosta is NOT?

I’ll go sit in the corner now…

Come sit by me.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:53:11pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

that could be a pretty cool basis for a big tattoo piece.

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:55:54pm

re: #186 KGxvi

I am curious how the college one will work. Does it only work for instate tuition at public universities? Do students at private schools get some sort of subsidy? And what about those of us who have outstanding student loans, do we get some sort of relief?

If we look to the past…
from the 1930s through the 1970s, community colleges were all free. Usually that was a 2-year school for an AA degree, or poor kids would go there for 2 years and then transfer to a 4-year school. There were a few (very few) 4-year community colleges, my Dad (and Colin Powell) both got their bachelor’s from City College (NYC). Cal State was an almost-free community college, they’ve opened many more campuses in the years since raising their rates. Community colleges have no residential facilities; it’s assumed the students are locals.

At State Universities (also 30s-70s) a year’s tuition was roughly equivalent to a union factory worker’s monthly earnings (also roughly equivalent to what a student could earn in 3 months of a minimum-wage summer job). Room and board were extra, pretty close to what the university actually spent operating the dorms and meal halls. That’s when the States and Feds were subsidizing the State Unis pretty heavily, appropriating about 70% of the actual operating cost. As govt subsidies have shrunk, tuition has increased.

Private colleges and universities always charged a lot more; the only tax money they ever got was research grants for which they were required to do actual research. Their scholarships and endowments are non-taxable.

We could more easily afford to give these students free education back when

1) income tax and corporate tax were higher than they are now; and
2) only 1/3 of people even thought college was necessary for their career aspirations.

Now that 80% of livable-wage jobs require a college degree, and the anti-tax fanatics have been mostly successful in their endeavors, the money’s not there. And it won’t be there again until and unless taxes are increased.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:56:53pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

Washington punching a tiger reminds me of this:

George Washington

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 3:59:43pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:00:25pm
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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:02:01pm

re: #189 Patricia Kayden

Notice that Fox News is highlighting women of color in their scare tactics. They can’t stop blowing that dog whistle.

First thing I noticed.

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fern01  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:02:02pm
Short term, get the obstacles in. Longer term…it is somewhat to be determined.

Probably means they’ll be there for minimum 12 years - same concept existed in Afghanistan/Iraq.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:02:44pm

wut

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:03:03pm

re: #214 sagehen

The Cal State schools are 4 year universities, and they all have dorms; they were mostly created as teaching schools rather than research schools. We have community colleges here as well, formerly known as junior colleges.

When I was at Long Beach State, in the late 90s, tuition wasn’t terrible - I graduated with no student loan debt, and even managed to buy a new car while in school. Part of the reason for that was that California was running a massive surplus, so they kept cutting tuition rates while I was there.

Undergrad tuition is now a little over $5k per year, when I graduated it was around a thousand dollars. The big costs, then and now, was housing.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:03:20pm

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:06:17pm

re: #216 Backwoods_Sleuth

NASA ✔
@NASA
Interstellar asteroid ‘Oumuamua ☄ is small but reflective, according to new findings from scientists who pointed @NASAspitzer at the object. Its surface may have been swept free of dust and dirt by a close approach to the Sun. What we know: go.nasa.gov

Shouldn’t that be Papa Oumuamua?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:08:14pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:08:54pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

wut

Isn’t TMZ sorta favorable to Trump? I know nothing about them, because I pretty much refuse to go to that site.

Maybe a hit piece to trash Avenatti? Is there some big court thing regarding Daniels and Cohen coming?

It is always something…

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:11:24pm
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MsJ  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:12:07pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

wut

I don’t know what to believe but I’ll tell you this, if TMZ is reporting it, I want visual evidence. And the police reports. And a LAPD press conference.

TMZ is as big a trump supporter as the National Enquirer. Plus they are all gossip. They’re not what I consider reliable in any fashion.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:12:27pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson
??

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:12:29pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

ltHS9PTDBoJXFa068IyZ7oeU2dXzcXoTBHISuPJ5hLjqmLgrOgFYwMfjoH9+zfWC/2Nz8psMSCk=

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:13:39pm

re: #228 gocart mozart

I would have sworn Project Veritas or GoatNews would have taken credit first.

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:15:25pm

I might have to turn this into a page, but more on the state of the California GOP:

All 80 Assembly seats were up this election (as they are every two years). A Republican wasn’t on the general election ballot in 21 of the 80 districts.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:18:12pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

wut

Against my gossipier impulses and hatred of Michael Avenatti’s political ambitions I’m invoking the 48 hour rule on this one. Just really cautious of ratfucking after the Stormy Daniel’s strip club sting operation. I have a lot of thoughts about Avenatti but I’m just gonna sit on them for now.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:19:45pm

Watch out for right-wing groups trying to get Avenatti sympathy votes.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:21:31pm

re: #189 Patricia Kayden

Notice that Fox News is highlighting women of color in their scare tactics. They can’t stop blowing that dog whistle.

OMG!!! Americans are running in terror from these dangerous fanatics!! What will we do??? //

Maybe they should use this photo for their reelection campaign in 2 years?

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blueraven  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:25:28pm

No Avenatti fan but…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:26:02pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:29:30pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

I wonder if he got swatted.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:29:34pm

re: #236 Charles Johnson

LAPD HQ ✔
@LAPDHQ
We can confirm that today LAPD Detectives arrested Michael Avenatti on suspicion of domestic violence. This is an ongoing investigation and we will provide more details as they become available.

7:04 PM - Nov 14, 2018

Maybe goddamnedfrank is on to something when he mentioned the Columbus Vice Police sting on Stormy. This might be part two and the LAPD is messing with Avenatti to, well, mess with Avenatti for (Trumpy) reasons?

I don’t know, is the LAPD reputation still as bad as it was in the past?

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blueraven  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:30:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:30:44pm

re: #208 gocart mozart

This is so cool

Great stuff. Kanagaki Robun, one of the book’s creators, loved to lampoon “Westernization” in Japan. The funny thing is that Washington really was an inspiration to liberal-minded young men—some of whom lost their lives to assassins and reactionary officials—in the late Tokugawa period (say, 1850 and 1860s) before the Meiji Restoration.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:31:02pm
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:31:41pm

I 100% agree with this (and people here bit as well):

(The unrolled version):

One of the biggest obstacles in the history of American liberalism has been this tendency among liberals to accept as true things liberalism’s enemies say about it and them.

Newly elected members of the US Congress arrived for orientation. @Ocasio2018 spoke at a sit-in featuring about 200 people outside Nancy Pelosi’s office.

The “protest,” as it was called, was organized by an advocacy group aiming to raise awareness about climate change and to advocate for more green-energy jobs.

This was manna to Ocasio-Cortez, who made history as the youngest woman ever elected to Congress after unseating US Rep. Joe Crowley, the former No. 3 in the House Democratic leadership.

The 29-year-old Latina has been stumping for liberal candidates across the country, making liberal arguments in unapologetically liberal ways. That she spoke with activists demanding action from leading liberals should have come as no surprise to anyone any time anywhere.

But then came this bit of disinformation from the spokeswoman of Paul Ryan to Capitol Hill reporters, which set the tone for the entire day: “Huh, well this is unconventional,” AshLee Strong wrote in an email. “The incoming speaker is getting protested by one of her freshman.”

From this point onward, Ocasio-Cortez wasn’t doing what a young dynamic liberal legislator does. No, no, no! She was “protesting” Pelosi!

AshLee Strong paved the way for every Capitol Hill reporter to tell a story they had been wanting to tell even though the narrative” was based on a falsehood: that this unruly mob can’t be controlled.

This “narrative” drew the ire of liberals who would have otherwise cheered Ocasio-Cortez. It rekindled the battle between the youngs and the olds, between “centrists” and “leftists,” and between “insurgents” and “the establishment.”

Worse, it inspired some liberals to trot out the old (often vaguely sexist) nomenclature: Ocasio-Cortez was grandstanding. She was showboating. She was this, that, and whatever. Too many liberals accepted as true what liberalism’s enemies said about it and them.

Thing is, when you actually listen to the women, a different picture comes to light. Not only was Ocasio-Cortez doing what young dynamic liberal legislators are supposed to do—bring new energy and new ideas to the table—she was charting her own course while forging alliances with established powers. She created a bridge between an energized under-30 base & the party’s leadership. She’ll likely be an invaluable ally as Pelosi plots a way forward.

Few can say they’ve accomplished more on their first day.

Bloomberg reported the incident was a challenge to “party unity.” The Times said earlier these renegades may be unwilling to “toe the party line.” Fox’s Laura Ingraham thrilled at the sight of Nancy Pelosi trying to wrangle newly elected “insurgents.” None of it was true.

As is the case when women rise to power, people are eager to project onto them what they want to see, and are not listening to what they are actually saying.

Reporters can be trusted to frame politics in conservative terms. That’s what happened. Right-wing media can be trusted to cement the view that the Democrats are “a mob” and risk “overplaying their hand.” That’s what happened. But liberals ought to know better.

Here is what Ocasio-Cortez said to activists: Should Leader Pelosi become the next Speaker of the House, we need to tell her that we’ve got her back in showing and pursuing the most progressive energy agenda that this country has ever seen.

Later, to the news media: AOC: One of the things I admire so much about Leader Pelosi is that she comes from a space of activism and organizing. And so I think that she really appreciates civic engagement. What I’m here to do is to support the folks who are here. This is about uplifting the voice and the message of the fact that we need a Green New Deal and we need to get to 100 percent renewables because our lives depend on it. … ***We are here to back [Pelosi] up.***

To which, Pelosi said: We are inspired by the energy and activism of the many young activists and advocates leading the way on the climate crisis. We welcome the presence of these activists, and we strongly urge the Capitol Police to allow them to continue to organize and participate in our democracy.

Um, yeah, no. This was not a protest, as Republican AshLee Strong said. It was activism. This was not disunity. It was unity.

This isn’t the Tea Party. This isn’t a conservative party. It’s a liberal and democratic party. Reporters should cover it as such if only for the purpose of accurately representing reality.

But liberals weren’t listening either. They should have been. Instead, they accepted as true what liberalism’s enemies said about it and them.

h/t balloon-juice.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:42:42pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

mRx+/LWNiBTE4cz2h0v7W1GisErQNhatIRSg0TkJanRGivvVXt1aXA==

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piratedan  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:48:43pm

re: #242 Belafon

so the reporters and the media ran with the GOP framing without actually talking to the Democrats and no where is that listed in the reporting or who the sources were, just GOP framing all the way down and down the rabbit hole we go….

so, I think I’ll sit back and wait and see on what unfolds with the Avenatti arrest as to whether this is additional ratfuckery in action or a classic misrepresentation of what we actually know to be true…

My guess is Pelosi gets to be speaker and we’ll see if she chooses to be magnanimous about what the GOP does but I would be a lesser man and I would honestly admit that my pettiness would get the best of me and all of these GOP staffers would be getting Congressional Parking spaces in Annapolis in order to commute to work.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:52:28pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:55:41pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:55:42pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:58:32pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 4:59:43pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:00:34pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:05:12pm

bummer

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BeachDem  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:07:28pm

re: #238 ObserverArt

Maybe goddamnedfrank is on to something when he mentioned the Columbus Vice Police sting on Stormy. This might be part two and the LAPD is messing with Avenatti to, well, mess with Avenatti for (Trumpy) reasons?

I don’t know, is the LAPD reputation still as bad as it was in the past?

What makes me most suspicious is Jacob Ahole’s “involvement” (sounds a lot like a Rage Furby type tweet)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:07:43pm

re: #238 ObserverArt

Maybe goddamnedfrank is on to something when he mentioned the Columbus Vice Police sting on Stormy. This might be part two and the LAPD is messing with Avenatti to, well, mess with Avenatti for (Trumpy) reasons?

I don’t know, is the LAPD reputation still as bad as it was in the past?

Yes.

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retired cynic  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:10:26pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:12:59pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:14:26pm

re: #255 gocart mozart

I wish we could have that one back. He really did leave us too soon.

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stpaulbear  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:15:06pm

re: #254 retired cynic

San Francisco wax museum trades Lady Gaga for Donald Trump. With yak hair.

The hair on the wax version of Trump looks a lot more natural than on the real Trump. It needs a do-over to make it more convoluted.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:17:37pm

re: #252 BeachDem

What makes me most suspicious is Jacob Ahole’s “involvement” (sounds a lot like a Rage Furby type tweet)

If Wohl is responsible, Avenatti will eat his lunch.

Jacob is not in that league. I’m not a huge Avenatti fan, but he is a shark.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:18:28pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:20:41pm

re: #252 BeachDem

What makes me most suspicious is Jacob Ahole’s “involvement” (sounds a lot like a Rage Furby type tweet)

You know, I just noticed something after seeing your comment and the linked images. Look at the Surefire Intelligence logo.

Notice anything?

Yep, CJ.

Hmmmm.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:21:11pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ouch

He is just too perfect; its like they called central casting to provide them with a corrupt thug to personify everything we know and loathe about the Trump Administration.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:25:10pm

re: #94 Kragar

This is an explicit threat. I hate to use the tired cliché, but if it was Obama that said anything like this conservatives would be outside the White House with pitchforks, torches, and guns locked and loaded.

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fern01  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:25:45pm

Chris Hayes jumping on the GOP viewpoint re Pelosi.

AS SOON AS the dems are in a position of power - the pundits MUST attack them. No idea how to overcome this b.s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:25:49pm

so sad…

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:27:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:28:03pm

Trashed Trash Pandas

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:31:55pm

re: #167 Jay C

Presumably those 43 votes for Jordan were the Free Dumb Caucus? Who will, unfortunately, still be around in the 116th. And still make McCarthy’s job miserable: at least as the Minority, the odds of their damaging the country have severely diminished.

Having no power enables the GOP to unify around opposing anything the Democrats want to do. Remember how easily they passed Obamacare repeal bills when they had no chance of becoming law?

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:32:35pm

re: #266 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trashed Trash Pandas

Hard Apple Cider…naturally.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:34:18pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:35:46pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:36:50pm

The absolute worst kind of precipitation. Ugh.

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retired cynic  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:38:23pm

re: #271 teleskiguy

The absolute worst kind of precipitation. Ugh.

You are so right. The absolute worst.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:38:39pm

Not sure if anyone has posted this yet. Kellyanne Conjob’s husband is the ringleader of this group. Dinner conversation must be fascinating in their house.

I wonder if Kellyanne is a double-agent.

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Kilroy was here  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:38:54pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

Kemp falling from 50.28% to 50.23%. Still needs to be under 50% for a runoff.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:40:46pm

re: #272 retired cynic

You are so right. The absolute worst.

I have less than fond memories of freezing rain. But it’s pretty when it coats the tree branches with a layer of ice. Not pretty when the layer of ice is between the roadway and your tires. … CRUNCH!

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EPR-radar  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:40:58pm

re: #231 KGxvi

I might have to turn this into a page, but more on the state of the California GOP:

All 80 Assembly seats were up this election (as they are every two years). A Republican wasn’t on the general election ballot in 21 of the 80 districts.

I find that I can bear news of the misfortunes of the CA GOP with great fortitude. May their failures serve as a model to the nation.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:41:28pm

I’m not Avenatti’s biggest fan, and I really do not want to see him run for president, but this arrest smells really fishy with the current political climate. Maybe I’m wrong. I hope I’m wrong.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:43:07pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

I’m not Avenatti’s biggest fan, and I really do not want to see him run for president, but this arrest smells really fishy with the current political climate. Maybe I’m wrong. I hope I’m wrong.

I don’t believe Avenatti has any political future, but I’m hoping his arrest (and it looks like he was) was a stunt and that he’s not an abuser.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:43:29pm

re: #271 teleskiguy

The absolute worst kind of precipitation. Ugh.

That crap is predicted to come up and touch Columbus. Just looked at NWS warning for my zip and they are saying could get up to 1/16th inch of ice then a mixture of sleet and snow on top of that to less than an inch.

Lovely.

Glad I don’t have to go out tomorrow, especially in the morning rush. First bad weather is usually dodgy as the drivers remember how to drive in it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:44:25pm

re: #279 ObserverArt

It’s already started here.
oh joy…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:45:26pm

re: #252 BeachDem

What makes me most suspicious is Jacob Ahole’s “involvement” (sounds a lot like a Rage Furby type tweet)

[Embedded content]

That was the first thing that flashed into my head—well, not J-Cob specifically, but ratfucking of some sort. If it was him, though, it should be easy to unravel.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:45:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:45:52pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

I’m not Avenatti’s biggest fan, and I really do not want to see him run for president, but this arrest smells really fishy with the current political climate. Maybe I’m wrong. I hope I’m wrong.

It looks suspiciously like it may be a Jacob Wohl special, aided by a corrupt and/or incompetent LAPD.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:46:44pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s already started here.
oh joy…

Yeah, I see that on the NWS site.

Supposed to be midnight and later for us. Surprise for everyone in the morning at the coldest time of the day 7 to 8 AM.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:46:54pm

re: #278 Belafon

I don’t believe Avenatti has any political future, but I’m hoping his arrest (and it looks like he was) was a stunt and that he’s not an abuser.

It’s a tactic of authoritarian regimes — disgrace a political opponent or dissident in the public eye with trumped charges to remove their influence. In China the government commonly charges dissidents with tax evasion or the more sinister “disturbing social harmony.” Xi Jinping has added corruption to the list of charges, as his arm of the Party only goes after officials not in his arm of the Party.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:47:47pm
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:48:43pm

re: #285 wheat-dogg

It’s a tactic of authoritarian regimes — disgrace a political opponent or dissident in the public eye with trumped charges to remove their influence. In China the government commonly charges dissidents with tax evasion or the more sinister “disturbing social harmony.” Xi Jinping has added corruption to the list of charges, as his arm of the Party only goes after officials not in his arm of the Party.

The one big difference is that if Avenatti’s wife and her lawyer get him out of jail, I suspect J-cob will need to find an embassy to hide in.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:52:14pm

re: #287 Belafon

The one big difference is that if Avenatti’s wife and her lawyer get him out of jail, I suspect J-cob will need to find an embassy to hide in.

Avenatti is a fierce lawyer. If this was all a cheap frame job, he’s going to come out of jail swinging. J-cob is like a little boy poking a leopard with a sharp stick.

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plansbandc  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:59:57pm

re: #225 ObserverArt

Main TMZ guy is in Trump’s pocket. (Harvey Levin) Their association has allegedly caused a lot of tension within the TMZ universe. Also, Levin’s massive support for Trump has made him quite a few enemies in the LGBTQ community.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:01:11pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

I can hear Trump already.

Maybe he could skip the stupid comments this time, since we all know what he’s going to say? No? Too much to ask?

Narrator: Way, way too much.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:13:02pm

re: #288 wheat-dogg

Avenatti is a fierce lawyer. If this was all a cheap frame job, he’s going to come out of jail swinging. J-cob is like a little boy poking a leopard with a sharp stick.

Just gonna note that California has its own criminal conspiracy statute:

CHAPTER 8. Conspiracy [182 - [185.]] ( Chapter 8 enacted 1872. )

182.
(a) If two or more persons conspire:
(1) To commit any crime.
(2) Falsely and maliciously to indict another for any crime, or to procure another to be charged or arrested for any crime.
(3) Falsely to move or maintain any suit, action, or proceeding.
(4) To cheat and defraud any person of any property, by any means which are in themselves criminal, or to obtain money or property by false pretenses or by false promises with fraudulent intent not to perform those promises.
(5) To commit any act injurious to the public health, to public morals, or to pervert or obstruct justice, or the due administration of the laws.
(6) To commit any crime against the person of the President or Vice President of the United States, the Governor of any state or territory, any United States justice or judge, or the secretary of any of the executive departments of the United States.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:12:07pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

I’m not Avenatti’s biggest fan, and I really do not want to see him run for president, but this arrest smells really fishy with the current political climate. Maybe I’m wrong. I hope I’m wrong.

I don’t think you’re wrong.


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Embattled Washington Rep. Matt Shea Is Skirting State Law to Funnel Campaign Funds to Far-Right Groups Shea uses his office and campaign funds to spearhead a partitionist effort to split Washington into two states, and may have violated state laws by using surplus campaign funds to make at least $5,500 in contributions to far-right nonprofit ...
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The Outer Worlds - Official Announcement Trailer Watch the official announcement trailer for The Outer Worlds, a new single-player first-person sci-fi RPG from Obsidian Entertainment and Private Division. In The Outer Worlds, you awake from hibernation on a colonist ship that was lost in transit to ...
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The Umbrella Academy When it rains, it pours. Here's your first look at The Umbrella Academy. Coming to Netflix February 15. A dysfunctional family of superheroes comes together to solve the mystery of their father's death, the threat of the apocalypse and ...
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Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Suspect My Tears The new deluxe album ‘Look Now’ out now, order here: elviscostello.lnk.to Explore more music from Elvis Costello: lnk.to Follow Elvis Costello:Facebook: facebook.comInstagram: instagram.comTwitter: twitter.comWebsite: elviscostello.com Director & Original Story - MustashrikExecutive Production - Whitney JacksonProduced by Partizan VFX Supervisor ...
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VULFPECK /// Half of the Way (Feat. Theo Katzman) VULFPECK /// Half of the Waybuy on bandcamp → vuuulf.com Theo Katzman — vocalsLarry Goldings — piano, composerRyan Lerman — guitar, composer, engineerJoey Dosik — saxWoody Goss — tambourineJack Stratton — drums, mixingJoe Dart — fender bassCory Wong — ...
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Storyhill - Blazing Out of Sight (Live at Radio Heartland)Storyhill perform "Blazing Out of Sight," from their 2007 self-titled album as well from the 2018 compilation, "Stages," live at Radio Heartland.
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How Smooth Jazz Took Over the ’90s You should give smooth jazz a chance. Subscribe to our channel! goo.gl Smooth jazz has gotten a bad rap for decades. It’s often associated with background music for elevators or the soundtrack at the dentist office. Smooth jazz is ...
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Feds Target Butina’s GOP Boyfriend as Foreign Agent Paul Erickson, a longtime Republican politico whose Russian girlfriend is in jail on charges she acted as a covert foreign agent, has been informed that he may face similar accusations. The Daily Beast reviewed a so-called “target letter” that ...
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Police: Charge Benjamin and Sara Netanyahu With Bribery in Telecom Case - Israel News - Haaretz.com The police and Israel Securities Authority on Sunday recommended indicting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau and his wife, Sara, as well as media mogul Shaul Elovitch and his wife, Iris, for bribery and other corruption charges in the investigation dubbed ...
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