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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:49:01pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:51:22pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 5:59:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:00:04pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:01:35pm

So Wohl has decided potential federal felony charges wasn’t enough, decided he wants to face state felony charges as well.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:02:14pm

I’m like, WTF.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:03:08pm

In the words of Baby Herman from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the whole thing stinks like yesterday’s diapers.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:05:30pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:05:46pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

In the words of Baby Herman from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the whole thing stinks like yesterday’s diapers.

Question now is, did someone hire “Surefire Intelligence (sic.)” to do this? If they did, I doubt if J-Cob covered his tracks very well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:10:13pm

re: #9 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Question now is, did someone hire “Surefire Intelligence (sic.)” to do this? If they did, I doubt if J-Cob covered his tracks very well.

Isn’t this exactly what he tried against Mueller? I don’t understand how this criminal escaped prison time for his financial fraud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:10:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:11:17pm
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:13:15pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

I’m like, WTF.

Speaking of WTF, did you happen to catch this paragraph in that NY Times article Delay, Deny and Deflect: How Facebook’s Leaders Fought Through Crisis?

I’ve been neutral on Schumer, and I know he was just reestablished at the Senate minority leader, but I’m leaning toward thinking the Democrats need someone better.

I admit, I am a Facebook hater too.

In Washington, allies of Facebook, including Senator Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Senate leader, intervened on its behalf. And Ms. Sandberg wooed or cajoled hostile lawmakers, while trying to dispel Facebook’s reputation as a bastion of Bay Area liberalism.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:13:57pm

Just got CL’d like a BOSS!

re: #288 wheat-dogg

Avenatti is a fierce lawyer. If this was all a cheap frame job, he’s going to come out of jail swinging. J-cob is like a little boy poking a leopard with a sharp stick.

Just gonna note that California has its own criminal conspiracy statute:

CHAPTER 8. Conspiracy [182 - [185.]] ( Chapter 8 enacted 1872. )

182.
(a) If two or more persons conspire:
(1) To commit any crime.
(2) Falsely and maliciously to indict another for any crime, or to procure another to be charged or arrested for any crime.
(3) Falsely to move or maintain any suit, action, or proceeding.
(4) To cheat and defraud any person of any property, by any means which are in themselves criminal, or to obtain money or property by false pretenses or by false promises with fraudulent intent not to perform those promises.
(5) To commit any act injurious to the public health, to public morals, or to pervert or obstruct justice, or the due administration of the laws.
(6) To commit any crime against the person of the President or Vice President of the United States, the Governor of any state or territory, any United States justice or judge, or the secretary of any of the executive departments of the United States.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:14:23pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

These idiots can’t see past what’s going on at the present time. If they win this little battle, they’ll be the first to scream TYRANNY!!!!! when a Dem president bans FOX and their ilk.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:15:50pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

One Republican tells VF Trump didn’t want to go to the cemetery in France was because there wasn’t a tent to stand under. “He was worried his hair was going to get messed up in the rain,” the source said. “Everyone was telling him this was a big mistake

Like everyone didn’t figure this out in the first 10 seconds

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:17:15pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian Stelter

@brianstelter
Today in court, a DOJ lawyer argued that the Trump White House has the legal right to kick out any reporter at any time for any reason. cnn.it

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8:06 PM - Nov 14, 2018

A very terrifying argument: it actually asserts that the President can bar any legitimate news organization from covering his activities. They are trying to establish that access can be restricted to a state-run news outlet. Trumpsters are all on board with the idea that any critical press is fake news.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:17:34pm

48 minutes ago. Note: he is still standing by the Meuller allegation.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:19:30pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Is that Surefire Intel twitter account legit?

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:20:51pm

re: #18 gocart mozart

Mueller is a Republican. And he tweeted this too, gotta look out for your fellow white man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:20:54pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Is that Surefire Intel twitter account legit?

LOL

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:21:09pm

The Netflix series “Get Shorty” is really good and you should watch it. Coen-esque.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:22:29pm
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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:23:45pm

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

A very terrifying argument: it actually asserts that the President can bar any legitimate news organization from covering his activities. They are trying to establish that access can be restricted to a state-run news outlet. Trumpsters are all on board with the idea that any critical press is fake news.

A quibble
Not a news organization
Just one reporter

Their argument is CNN has other reporters

Its a BS argument. They’ve still trampled Acosta’s individual first and fifth rights. Probably others

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:24:01pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:24:29pm

re: #19 goddamnedfrank

Is that Surefire Intel twitter account legit?

And by “legit” I mean in the sense that are we sure that account is really Wohl wearing a greasepaint mustache?

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:24:51pm
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baileylamb  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:25:04pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

My son’s kindergarten gf is apart of that statistic. He was heart broken when she left

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:26:02pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL

Bunch of twaddle

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:27:07pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

Every tweet from that taintlick, the replies are nothing but people clowning on him. He’s just like Fuckface Von Clownstick in that he is completely incapable of shame, a dyed-in-the-wool sociopath.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:28:09pm

re: #24 dangerman

A quibble
Not a news organization
Just one reporter

Their argument is CNN has other reporters

Its a BS argument. They’ve still trampled Acosta’s individual first and fifth rights. Probably others

But isn’t the argument basically that they can bar anyone for any reason? Wouldn’t that mean they could bar all reporters from a particular network? Or they could bar anyone who doesn’t prostrate themselves before him?

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:29:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:32:31pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

And by “legit” I mean in the sense that are we sure that account is really Wohl wearing a greasepaint mustache?

Wohl retweets it, if that means “legit”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:33:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:34:02pm
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:37:35pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I don’t actually want to know how a dog recognizes child porn by smell.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:39:11pm

re: #31 Hecuba’s daughter

But isn’t the argument basically that they can bar anyone for any reason? Wouldn’t that mean they could bar all reporters from a particular network? Or they could bar anyone who doesn’t prostrate themselves before him?

I don’t doubt it could get there
it hasn’t yet

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:40:01pm

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

There’s also the fact that he would have had to share the stage/podium with Trudeau, Merkel, and Macron. Imagine one of Trump’s old man yells at cloud speeches after (or between) those three

Theory courtesy of the guys on Pod Save the World today

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:40:33pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:40:58pm

Good lord.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:41:31pm

re: #32 gocart mozart

Michael Avenatti addresses Los Angeles arrest: “I have never struck a woman. I never will strike a woman…I am looking forward to a full investigation, at which point I am confident that I will be fully exoneratednbcnews.to pic.twitter

Hopefully true

In any case this is how an innocent person acts/reacts

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guachi  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:42:41pm

Cisneros is now only 122 votes behind Kim in CA-39. Gained 589 votes today. I thought he’d pass him today. Maybe tomorrow.

On the other hand, the Utah seat is moving in the opposite direction.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:44:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:46:18pm

re: #43 Belafon

TMZ did not “clarify phrasing”, they flat out changed it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:47:07pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:51:41pm

re: #36 Belafon

I don’t actually want to know how a dog recognizes child porn by smell.

They sniff out hidden media storage devices

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:52:19pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:54:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:54:53pm
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:55:29pm

This diary, by someone saying they are lefty and support Pelosi, makes a good point: We do not have time for a speaker to work through six months of being a new speaker. It also makes the point that the small group of people opposing her are from the middle, not the “left”.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:55:33pm

re: #42 guachi

Cisneros is now only 122 votes behind Kim in CA-39. Gained 589 votes today. I thought he’d pass him today. Maybe tomorrow.

On the other hand, the Utah seat is moving in the opposite direction.

Won’t make a big difference either way. Democrats gained 5 points nationally compared to Clinton’s margin over Trump; if they can nominate a candidate of average popularity in 2020, and Trump doesn’t decide to act like President of the US instead of President of MAGA (hint, he won’t), the Democrat should crush him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:56:27pm

re: #50 Belafon

This diary, by someone saying they are lefty and support Pelosi, makes a good point: We do not have time for a speaker to work through six months of being a new speaker. It also makes the point that the small group of people opposing her are from the middle, not the “left”.

the small group opposing her are pretty much the same ones who opposed her the last time

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:56:37pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:56:54pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:57:43pm
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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 6:57:56pm
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makeitstop  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:01:34pm

Lettieri is a goddamn monster. He had me laughing out loud with some of that shit.

Oh, and the band ain’t bad, either. :)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:02:15pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

So Mitch again fuck you for your bs oped. Enjoy being in the minority come two falls from now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:02:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:04:05pm

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

Excited for these two ladies. They both are from a group terribly unrepresented in government.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:05:39pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Excited for these two ladies. They both are from a group terribly unrepresented in government.

Native Americans
Muslims
Latinas

We’ve got it all this year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:05:54pm

more about those raccoons in West Virginia:

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:07:36pm

re: #61 Belafon

Native Americans
Muslims
Latinas

We’ve got it all this year.

LGBT Governor in Colorado replaced in his old CD by a milennial son of Entriean immigrants. I love that our party and movement reflect men and women of so many backgrounds.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:07:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:10:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:11:25pm
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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:11:26pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

Bipartisan

Mitch McConnell

Hah

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:12:16pm

re: #67 dangerman

Bipartisan

Mitch McConnell

Hah

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:12:34pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

All you would need to do, though, is put cardboard boxes at the entrance.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:14:35pm

Ads for Dinesh D’Souzas stupid new movie showing up on LGF now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:18:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:18:56pm

re: #70 Eclectic Cyborg

Ads for Dinesh D’Souzas stupid new movie showing up on LGF now.

He has another one? The last one by an epic fail wasn’t a clue enough for Dinesh Ed Wood.

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TedStriker  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:19:48pm

re: #36 Belafon

I don’t actually want to know how a dog recognizes child porn by smell.

Cadaverine.

en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:19:50pm

re: #64 gocart mozart

Modern day Bull Connor. Stacey needs to make this shit’s life miserable.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:20:49pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

the small group opposing her are pretty much the same ones who opposed her the last time

Part of Charlie Pierce’s Five White Guys article is about freaking Tim Ryan OH D13 Rep. Figures. He’s been an ass about Pelosi all along.

I’m posting the meat of the article below. Full article at link.

Esquire - The #FiveWhiteGuys Are Offering a Sucker’s Bet to Anti-Pelosi Democrats

Subhead: There is no need for any of this.

Alas, it is my painful duty to report that the #FiveWhiteGuys are led by Seth Moulton, congresscritter from the Sixth Congressional District here in the Commonwealth (God save it!), and a man who has been farting higher than his own arse ever since he got elected in 2014. Moulton ran a strong campaign. He ousted an endangered incumbent who was all tangled in so much family corruption that a Republican pickup of that seat was a distinct possibility—or, at least, as distinct a possibility as was ever enjoyed by a Massachusetts Republican. Almost immediately, Moulton signed on to the challenge to Pelosi’s leadership mustered up by the anti-charismatic Tim Ryan of Ohio. Almost immediately, and most spectacularly, Moulton began spending a lot of time in Iowa. This is a fellow who thinks a great deal of his own inherent political gifts.

Now, it seems, they’ve gotten the band back together again. The #FiveWhiteGuys are Moulton, Ryan, Ed Perlmutter of Colorado, Kurt Schrader of Oregon, and Bill Foster of Illinois. The driving forces remain Moulton and Ryan, with the latter the putative leader. After an election in which the Democratic Party continues to elect a demographically and politically diverse collection of new House members, Ryan is still insisting that the party needs to “reach out” to angry white men in places like Ohio when, in fact, if the midterms proved anything, it is that the Democratic Party’s future is in places like Arizona and Nevada, and even Georgia and Florida, while, except for Sherrod Brown, god bless him, Ohio is a lost cause. It was an outlier even in its own geographic area. There were Democratic—and progressive—victories in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois. Ohio and, yes, Iowa, were loss leaders.

This did not stop Moulton, who declines to challenge Pelosi himself, from spouting off in Roll Call that he and his group have the votes to block Pelosi’s elevation to the speakership on the floor of the House—although, as has now become customary, Moulton declines to provide details on exactly how many members of the House have signed on here.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:20:57pm

re: #36 Belafon

I don’t actually want to know how a dog recognizes child porn by smell.

He sniffs out hidden electronic devices…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:24:02pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:25:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:27:04pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:27:31pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

I guess Zuck won’t be going to the UK on holiday then.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:28:49pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I were the lawyers for the Democrat I’d sign a settlement agreement with Love before she can figure out she’s screwed herself.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:28:58pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

These Republicans just don’t fucking get it, do they?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:29:44pm

re: #80 Big Beautiful Door

I guess Zuck won’t be going to the UK on holiday then.

That asshole really does think he’s bulletproof.

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meteor  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:30:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:32:34pm

re: #75 ObserverArt

Part of Charlie Pierce’s Five White Guys article is about freaking Tim Ryan OH D13 Rep. Figures. He’s been an ass about Pelosi all along.

I’m posting the meat of the article below. Full article at link.

[Embedded content]

Esquire - The #FiveWhiteGuys Are Offering a Sucker’s Bet to Anti-Pelosi Democrats

Subhead: There is no need for any of this.

I like what I know about Moulton before this but I’m really disappointed he’s still going through with this. The other four I’m meh on. Ryan simply much like a certain Senator from Vermont does not get that angry white guys aren’t the party’s future. Maybe if more of them realized that the Dems are advocating for their interests instead of being a bunch of babies over the fact that the party is pro-choice, pro-lgbt, pro-immigrant, etc. And that’s what it’s all about. Bill Clinton was much more centrist economically than HRC and Obama were but these voters voted for him.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:32:35pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wasn’t there either a tweet or an article posted around here earlier today that made it seem like Mia Love had taken a small lead in the count?

I’m confused about that one(?).

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TedStriker  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:32:42pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

He has another one? The last one by an epic fail wasn’t a clue enough for Dinesh Ed Wood.

“the RWNJ’s Ed Wood”

I like the sound of that, though it’s a bit of a diss on Wood, who at least was a passionate filmmaker trying to do more with less (and often not succeeding).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:33:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:33:32pm

re: #87 TedStriker

“the RWNJ’s Ed Wood”

I like the sound of that, though it’s a bit of a diss on Wood, who at least was a passionate filmmaker trying to do more with less (and often not succeeding).

I’ll raise you Michael Bay then :).

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:34:09pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:34:39pm

re: #86 ObserverArt

Wasn’t there either a tweet or an article posted around here earlier today that made it seem like Mia Love had taken a small lead in the count?

I’m confused about that one(?).

my understanding is that she got more votes in the latest batch that was counted, but is still behind overall

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:36:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:36:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:38:35pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

Former Congressman Ryan is just as good. Have hated that little Ayn Rand worshipping hypocrite since his infamous budget that put him on the national scene. Another GOP “policy wonk” who is nothing but a wanker.

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:38:47pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

I like what I know about Moulton before this but I’m really disappointed he’s still going through with this. The other four I’m meh on. Ryan simply much like a certain Senator from Vermont does not get that angry white guys aren’t the party’s future. Maybe if more of them realized that the Dems are advocating for their interests instead of being a bunch of babies over the fact that the party is pro-choice, pro-lgbt, pro-immigrant, etc. And that’s what it’s all about. Bill Clinton was much more centrist economically than HRC and Obama were but these voters voted for him.

Angry white guys are not the future for the party, they are however a problem for the future of Tim Ryan.

He’s covering his butt in as big a way as he can. It really seems to me he is saying to the people in that part of Ohio he knows they are Pelosi haters (Democrat and even more Republican) and he is too.

If he doesn’t he must think he will get dumped.

Or he is just a dick.

This state has it’s problems. All I can hope is the growth of the urban areas, many coming from the red areas of Ohio, changes their damn thinking about what was to what is and will be.

Or, enough of the elders die off to open the state to more progressive thinking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:39:30pm

I shouldn’t laugh but, really, it was the first thing I noticed, too…

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:39:46pm
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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:40:55pm

re: #81 Big Beautiful Door

If I were the lawyers for the Democrat I’d sign a settlement agreement with Love before she can figure out she’s screwed herself.

Sounds like she wants to halt the counting
Then get to Reexamine the signature matchings
And then get ballots tossed that were already accepted

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:40:56pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

Angry white guys are not the future for the party, they are however a problem for the future of Tim Ryan.

He’s covering his butt in as big a way as he can. It really seems to me he is saying to the people in that part of Ohio he knows they are Pelosi haters (Democrat and even more Republican) and he is too.

If he doesn’t he must think he will get dumped.

Or he is just a dick.

This state has it’s problems. All I can hope is the growth of the urban areas, many coming from the red areas of Ohio, changes their damn thinking about what was to what is and will be.

Or, enough of the elders die off to open the state to more progressive thinking.

It just all seems so self serving but I wonder what Moulton’s end game is. I get the want for new leadership but he seems eager to be known as the guy with a hardon against Nancy.

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BeachDem  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:42:07pm

re: #95 ObserverArt

Angry white guys are not the future for the party, they are however a problem for the future of Tim Ryan.

He’s covering his butt in as big a way as he can. It really seems to me he is saying to the people in that part of Ohio he knows they are Pelosi haters (Democrat and even more Republican) and he is too.

If he doesn’t he must think he will get dumped.

Or he is just a dick.

This state has it’s problems. All I can hope is the growth of the urban areas, many coming from the red areas of Ohio, changes their damn thinking about what was to what is and will be.

Or, enough of the elders die off to open the state to more progressive thinking.

I looked back at my notes from our state convention, where Tim Ryan spoke at the Friday night dinner and the Saturday breakfast. He was dissing Nancy Pelosi and singing the praises of Nina Turner (she was there as well—ugh) so I found two good reasons to dislike him.

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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:42:17pm

In this age of crazy angst… we need some party music:

CUCALA, CUCALA - Ismael Rivera

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:42:31pm

oh…just, oh…

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:43:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:44:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:45:33pm

re: #100 BeachDem

I looked back at my notes from our state convention, where Tim Ryan spoke at the Friday night dinner and the Saturday breakfast. He was dissing Nancy Pelosi and singing the praises of Nina Turner (she was there as well—ugh) so I found two good reasons to dislike him.

Nina throwing her lot in with Ryan who is considerably more moderate than Nancy. Shows you the anti HRC coalition in the Dems wasn’t just left despite what Bernie would believe.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:45:38pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

The job of the government is to protect the amendments, not to use them for their own benefit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:45:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:47:35pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…just, oh…

Well Joe isn’t wrong about any of that. How the hell did Joe Walsh become a fairly reasonable voice? Like some of these guys I get but Walsh is a shocker to me since he was such an ass as a Congressman.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:50:04pm

re: #98 dangerman

Sounds like she wants to halt the counting
Then get to Reexamine the signature matchings
And then get ballots tossed that were already accepted

How would you do that? By the time ballots are counted, they’re permanently, irreversibly separated from anything with a signature on them, right? They are here, for sure. You know, secret ballot?

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:50:48pm
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:52:20pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Well Joe isn’t wrong about any of that. How the hell did Joe Walsh become a fairly reasonable voice? Like some of these guys I get but Walsh is a shocker to me since he was such an ass as a Congressman.

All of this is on a sliding scale. Just remember, almost no one, even the loons, believe that it’s ok to drink bleach. Some just also realize that shitting in the bed is bad, and some of them realize that holocaust deniers shouldn’t be allowed in public. Eventually, you’ll find something you disagree with, but hopefully, it’s not the kind of thing that gets people killed.

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Broad With Sass  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:52:50pm

I am officially on a manual recount team in Florida :)

Online webinar training tomorrow, and two shifts this weekend at the county offices

I think ours will be painless, since Brevard county had a supervisor of elections in the ’90s that demanded better machines and process…screamed until we ponied up the
money.

We were not one of the problems in 2000

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:55:08pm

re: #106 Belafon

The job of the government is to protect the amendments, not to use them for their own benefit.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:55:33pm

re: #111 Belafon

All of this is on a sliding scale. Just remember, almost no one, even the loons, believe that it’s ok to drink bleach. Some just also realize that shitting in the bed is bad, and some of them realize that holocaust deniers shouldn’t be allowed in public. Eventually, you’ll find something you disagree with, but hopefully, it’s not the kind of thing that gets people killed.

True. I just expected Walsh to be a zealous Trump apologist given his tenure in Congress and campaign against Duckworth.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:56:04pm

re: #109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How would you do that? By the time ballots are counted, they’re permanently, irreversibly separated from anything with a signature on them, right? They are here, for sure. You know, secret ballot?

I don’t know
Then I’m not a republican clutching at straws

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HappyWarrior  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:56:27pm

re: #113 dangerman

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Correct then as it is now and the anti freedom Trump cultists refuse to see that.

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:58:27pm

re: #110 Single-handed sailor

Macron pretty much said grown-up and show some dignity

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 7:59:42pm

re: #112 Broad With Sass

I am officially on a manual recount team in Florida :)

Online webinar training tomorrow, and two shifts this weekend at the county offices

I think ours will be painless, since Brevard county had a supervisor of elections in the ’90s that demanded better machines and process…screamed until we ponied up the
money.

We were not one of the problems in 2000

Kick some sass

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Scout  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:00:13pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What a GREAT pooch!!!!

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dangerman  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:01:13pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Correct then as it is now and the anti freedom Trump cultists refuse to see that.

Well the Constitution is so hard

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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:02:11pm

re: #109 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

How would you do that? By the time ballots are counted, they’re permanently, irreversibly separated from anything with a signature on them, right? They are here, for sure. You know, secret ballot?

The actual ballots must still be in their envelopes.

The signature and other identification is on the outside. They probably question the signatures and never open the envelope until they are satisfied they match.

Then the ballots are taken out and out and put in the reader machines.

There is no ID on the ballot.

That is how they are in Ohio anyway.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:04:17pm

re: #120 dangerman

Well the Constitution is so hard

It is if you want to follow it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:06:04pm

re: #121 ObserverArt

The actual ballots must still be in their envelopes.

The signature and other identification is on the outside. They probably question the signatures and never open the envelope until they are satisfied they match.

Then the ballots are taken out and out and put in the reader machines.

There is no ID on the ballot.

That is how they are in Ohio anyway.

Right, exactly. But this process is (or should be) irreversible. Otherwise they could determine how a specific individual voted, and that’s always been an absolute no-no. (Constitutional law term.)

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:07:00pm

The last three months have been really bad for the tiny-fingered vulgarian. All self-inflicted (like everything else), I’d add.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:08:48pm

Just had Baklava for the first time from Phoenicia in the downtown 713. Fucking great pastry.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:09:30pm

Caption contest:


“Dwight with the new 1/3 gauge shotgun he had built in his home workshop. He was completely convinced that Newton’s Third Law was yet another sciencey librul hoax. “
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ObserverArt  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:11:20pm

re: #117 dangerman

Macron pretty much said grown-up and show some dignity

I bet Trump is fuming and doesn’t like the fact Macron has his hand on his leg, like a parent trying to calm and control junior for acting out.

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:12:02pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:12:09pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Penis envy.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:20:38pm

re: #128 gocart mozart

Is Carl throwing a fit or what am I missing?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:23:35pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Hey Bubba, watch how far back I fly when I shoot this here thing!”

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:23:41pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Even though dad was shrinking down to the size of an action figure, I couldn’t convince him to give up his guns.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:24:24pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Caption contest:

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Somebody took 20 Cialis tabs and they didn’t work…

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:24:33pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:26:04pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Caption contest:

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“Dwight with the new 1/3 gauge shotgun he had built in his home workshop. He was completely convinced that Newton’s Third Law was yet another sciencey librul hoax. “

“When overcompensation goes too far…”

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Kilroy was here  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:26:59pm

re: #126 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Caption contest:

[Embedded content]

“Dwight with the new 1/3 gauge shotgun he had built in his home workshop. He was completely convinced that Newton’s Third Law was yet another sciencey librul hoax. “

Wabbit Season!

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:31:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:32:57pm

re: #136 Kilroy was here

Wabbit Season!

Night of the Lepus

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:35:53pm

More gun weirdness. Unfortunately this one is real.

Facebook Post

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Stifford  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:36:28pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Have you (or anyone) watched “Patriot” on Amazon Prime?
It’s Amazing! Season 2 just came out,
but you need to see the first season too.
Probably my favorite of any original Amazon series.

The best one line description I’ve seen about it is it’s like Wes Anderson directed one of the Mission Impossible movies. Great music too!

Patriot - Official Trailer | Prime Video

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:37:31pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

More gun weirdness. Unfortunately this one is real.

[Embedded content]

Silent Night, HOLEY Night…

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KGxvi  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:38:17pm

re: #134 Ace Rothstein

The GOP has basically become a third party in California. Unfortunately, there’s no second party at the moment

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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:39:07pm

re: #140 Stifford

Nope, not watched it.

There are now just too many shows on the small screen to keep up with everything.

Heck, I just recently viewed the two seasons of the now-10-years-old Dead Like Me.

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:39:55pm
145
Scout  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:40:04pm

re: #140 Stifford

Have you (or anyone) watched “Patriot” on Amazon Prime?
It’s Amazing! Season 2 just came out,
but you need to see the first season too.
Probably my favorite of any original Amazon series.

The best one line description I’ve seen about it is it’s like Wes Anderson directed one of the Mission Impossible movies. Great music too!

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Video

I was interested, until he murdered that Asian guy.

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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:40:17pm

re: #142 KGxvi

Yup, the “undeclared” are now the 2nd party, and in a couple of years, if their growth continue, will be the largest group.

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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:45:35pm

Well known atheist Seth Andrews laments Christmas and, sure Charles will nod his head with this one, doesn’t want Christmas music:

Just Stop with the Christmas Music

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:48:14pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

More gun weirdness. Unfortunately this one is real.

[Embedded content]

Shrug. They make stuff like this: benshot.com using 100% copper bullets from Barnes so no lead. It’s silly but no more so than pet rocks to me.

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freetoken  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:50:08pm
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Stifford  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:51:32pm

re: #145 Scout

I was interested, until he murdered that Asian guy.

well not to (poorly) hide a very minor early spoiler…
but how do you know he died? ;)

the show does have a bit of violence though,
and some very dark humor, to be truthful.
but it also is very lighthearted and sweet at points.
the mix is what make it great, imo.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:52:36pm

Colbert had a lot of fun with Whitaker and his scam company tonight.

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Scout  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:53:21pm

re: #150 Stifford

well not to (poorly) hide a very minor early spoiler…
but how do you know he died? ;)

the show does have a bit of violence though,
and some very dark humor, to be truthful.
but it also is very lighthearted and sweet at points.
the mix is what make it great, imo.

Ah. That’ll teach me to jump to conclusions. Thanks!

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Single-handed sailor  Nov 14, 2018 • 8:58:37pm
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sagehen  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:00:22pm

re: #28 baileylamb

My son’s kindergarten gf is apart of that statistic. He was heart broken when she left

OMG! There’s somebody who really does have a girlfriend in Canada!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:04:00pm

re: #139 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

More gun weirdness. Unfortunately this one is real.

[Embedded content]

“Giving employees their choice of revolver as a gift is part of an effort to promote personal safety and team building, Ben Wolfgram, who co-owns Hortonville-based BenShot, said Tuesday.”

Because what’s safer than a whole factory floor of people packing heat?

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:17:25pm

This is the county that contains Dodge City, where they moved the polling station out of town.

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Archangelus  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:18:43pm

re: #134 Ace Rothstein

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As someone who was born and raised there, this makes me a very happy Democrat…

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:19:42pm

re: #155 Eclectic Cyborg

“Giving employees their choice of revolver as a gift is part of an effort to promote personal safety and team building, Ben Wolfgram, who co-owns Hortonville-based BenShot, said Tuesday.”

Because what’s safer than a whole factory floor of people packing heat?

This reminds me of the scene in American Gods where all the employees fire their guns in the air and Vulcan is getting them to leave before the bullets come back down.

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:20:57pm

re: #137 gocart mozart

This staggering report makes clear that @Facebook executives will always put their massive profits ahead of the interests of their customers.

They absolutely protect their customers.

What Ciccilline is missing is that *advertisers* are the customers. People with Facebook accounts are the product.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 14, 2018 • 9:28:07pm

re: #147 freetoken

I love this little girl singing.

Posted it on my Facebook page.

Didn’t like the nasty responses from RepubliKKKlans!

Akim & Teddy Vann - Santa Claus Is A Black Man

161
teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 10:22:12pm

Over two and a half million views in 16 hours. Americans not in thrall to Fuckface Von Clownstick’s bullshit are hungry for this kind of accountability of his brain dead supporters.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:11:40pm

Boy…they sure nailed him.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:15:07pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:29:06pm

re: #134 Ace Rothstein

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teleskiguy  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:31:51pm
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:34:47pm

I’m so angry about this.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:36:13pm

Scientists have discovered a 19 mile wide impact crater in northwest Greenland and it’s got the Intertubes all abuzz that it might - and I emphasize might - be connected to the Younger Dryas Event.

It’s been hypothesized that the YDE was triggered by an impact event but to date, no impact crater has ever been found that would match up with that timeframe (12900 BP). However, with this new discovery, it’s got speculation about the YDE going again. Of course, it’ll all depend on just when this impact event happened. If the impact crater can be positively dated to 12900 BP (more or less), then maybe the advocates of a catastrophist cause of the Younger Dryas Event were correct.

advances.sciencemag.org

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:39:32pm

re: #26 goddamnedfrank

And by “legit” I mean in the sense that are we sure that account is really Wohl wearing a greasepaint mustache?

Listen, I think we all realize I stole that “greasepaint mustache” line from The Ghost of a Flea, right?

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:41:24pm

bpr2NqdFPOIj5Ylq2eBFIXJADHCoWGB5KID2k1PjBbqtJM02r8parULQ/nFcMw3NSwYxverWzBRmOUwIDOWbzoaBQ8yDcpIznalXKL41yg1WSdfMbB5LczcN74VUKJ3OTHvFBnSbkOGpsSUM0oNlG+MwOWKTqIFy13VJIheqcDTwXrKVbyNReQ==

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 14, 2018 • 11:44:49pm

Okay this is a pretty valid point.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 12:21:10am
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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 12:25:24am
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 15, 2018 • 12:44:53am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 12:46:12am

Brexit chaos continues apace.

Some lawmakers in Prime Minister Theresa May’s Conservative Party have said they expect at least 48 letters of no confidence will have been submitted by lunchtime on Thursday, ITV reporter Robert Peston said.

A challenge to May is triggered if 15 percent of the parliamentary party, or 48 lawmakers, write letters demanding a confidence vote to the chairman of the party’s “1922 Committee”, which represents lawmakers who have no government jobs.

uk.reuters.com

I guess we’ll see what happens soon enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 12:50:23am

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

You can leave the herd once it goes over the cliff, but you are going to land in the same heap…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 12:56:15am

re: #159 sagehen

They absolutely protect their customers.

What Ciccilline is missing is that *advertisers* are the customers. People with Facebook accounts are the product.

Ditto for any commercial news network.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:10:49am

Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab has resigned, saying he “cannot back” PM May’s Brexit deal.

theguardian.com

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:23:01am

re: #161 teleskiguy

Three million views in 19 hours.

I wish this was some sort of precedent. It’s not. The media in the United States are spineless jackals.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:33:27am

re: #178 teleskiguy

Three million views in 19 hours.

I wish this was some sort of precedent. It’s not. The media in the United States are spineless jackals.

They’re little more than glorified stenographers, for the most part. That’s not to say there aren’t good investigate journalists, but they’re far and few between.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:36:17am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

They’re little more than glorified stenographers, for the most part. That’s not to say there aren’t good investigate journalists, but they’re far and few between.

We need more of that confrontational style that Mehdi brought forth. It would sure be nice if Jake Tapper interviewed Fuckface Von Clownstick’s sycophants in the same fashion. Alas, the corporate overlords in the United States forbid such drivel.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:38:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:41:59am

US Media need to have the standards of Macron and refuse to pay attention to Twitter-based policy.

Prez has learned that he can bypass press oversight and purview by using that channel.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:44:52am

re: #181 goddamnedfrank

$130,000 per annum? Pfft. Even the smallest ski area spends five times that amount on snowmaking per annum.

Then again, that provides an actual service, a snow surface for humans to glide down on one or two planks with reckless abandon, a lot of happiness.

But a gold covered theater is… cool, too?

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:48:59am

Speaking of skiing and stuff…

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:51:08am

UK PM Tre: #177 Dr Lizardo

Brexit Secretary Dominic Raab has resigned, saying he “cannot back” PM May’s Brexit deal.

theguardian.com

Dominic Raab’s resignation later (from his Twitter- very 2018)

For my part, I cannot support the proposed deal for two reasons. First, I believe that the regulatory regime proposed for Northern Ireland presents a very real threat to the integrity of the United Kingdom.

Second, I cannot support an indefinite backstop arrangement, where the EU holds a veto over our ability to exit. The terms of the backstop amount to a hybrid of the EU customs union and single market obligations. No democratic nation has ever signed up to be bound by such an extensive regime, imposed externally without any democratic control over the laws to be applied, nor the ability to decide the exit arrangement. That arrangement is now also taken as the starting point for negotiating the future economic partnership. If we accept that, it will severely prejudice the second phase of negotiations against the UK.

Above all, I cannot reconcile the terms of the proposed deal with the promises we madd to the country in our manifesto at the last election. This is, at its heart, a matter of public trust.

And, hey presto, down goes the pound against the dollar and euro

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:53:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:53:43am

and he basically said that their pro-Brexit campaign was based on lies and deception

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:55:45am

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

That pretty much sums up Brexit quite nicely.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:57:09am

Looks like rolling resignations - one per hour, on the hour.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 1:58:40am

re: #188 Dr Lizardo

That pretty much sums up Brexit quite nicely.

and almost every form of “protest voting”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:02:43am
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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:09:11am

re: #191 Dr Lizardo

Actually, that’s the third resignation, as the Northern Ireland minister Shailesh Vara resigned shortly before Brexit minister Dominic Raab.

3 cabinet resignations before 10am!!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:10:36am

re: #192 Alephnaught

Actually, that’s the third resignation, as the Northern Ireland minister Shailesh Vara resigned shortly before Brexit minister Dominic Raab.

You’re right - like I said, it’s starting to look like a day of rolling resignations, one after the other. Coordinated to go down on the hour.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:13:47am

If there’s another resignation in 45 minutes or so from this posting, then it’s gonna be a really long day for PM May.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:17:05am

Didn’t U.K. citizens vote in the affirmative for Brexit like three years ago? Is their political and economic system handling that referendum well? From my very uninformed honkey-ass ski bum point of view, I’d say not.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:17:58am

re: #193 Dr Lizardo

Looks like the deal is going to down like a lead balloon in the House of Commons. There’s no way I can see it getting the votes- so many people from both brexiters and remainers in the Conservative party, to the DUP and the SNP have come out against it.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:21:10am

re: #194 Dr Lizardo

If there’s another resignation in 45 minutes or so from this posting, then it’s gonna be a really long day for PM May.

Funny you should say that. It looks like some are expecting Penny Mourdaunt, Minister for Women and Equalities, to resign.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:22:19am

re: #196 Alephnaught

Looks like the deal is going to down like a lead balloon in the House of Commons. There’s no way I can see it getting the votes- so many people from both brexiters and remainers in the Conservative party, to the DUP and the SNP have come out against it.

Yep…and there’s this too:

which is a good point. It’s entirely possible that by later today, PM May will have resigned.

But then again, she’s nothing if not a survivor type.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:25:10am

re: #197 Alephnaught

But not yet! The next resignation is…. Suella Braverman!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:25:22am

re: #195 teleskiguy

Didn’t U.K. citizens vote in the affirmative for Brexit like three years ago? Is their political and economic system handling that referendum well? From my very uninformed honkey-ass ski bum point of view, I’d say not.

They voted for a lot of unrealistic, unobtainable or mutually exclusive things and are now distressed to see that those things are unrealistic, unobtainable or mutually exclusive.

They also assumed that EU would give in a lot more to maintain trade relations with the UK sand were shocked to see Europe most unanimously refusing to budge.

And they really thought that they could install Schroedinger’s Hard Border across Ireland.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:26:54am

And another one:

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:31:47am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They voted for a lot of unrealistic, unobtainable or mutually exclusive things and are now distressed to see that those things are unrealistic, unobtainable or mutually exclusive.

They also assumed that EU would give in a lot more to maintain trade relations with the UK sand were shocked to see Europe most unanimously refusing to budge.

And they really thought that they could install Schroedinger’s Hard Border across Ireland.

In other words the British right wing version of…

Giphy

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:33:35am

re: #195 teleskiguy

Didn’t U.K. citizens vote in the affirmative for Brexit like three years ago? Is their political and economic system handling that referendum well? From my very uninformed honkey-ass ski bum point of view, I’d say not.

I don’t think any political system could adequately handle the result of such a “pie in the sky” decision. There was no discussion of what “leaving the EU” actually meant in practise, just a lot of flag waving and posturing. The debate around the referendum- or rather lack of debate- stood in stark contrast to the almost 2 years of very detailed debate leading up to the Scottish independence referendum. (Which looks like it may happen again- Scotland voted 2-1 against leaving the EU.) It almost felt like people were treating like some random by-election in the Midlands.

Of course, it didn’t help that the Conservative government spent the time between the referendum result and now basically adopting the stance of a rabbit in the headlights whilst saying “Everything will be fine!”

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:34:53am

And another resignation:

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:35:13am

And next, Anne-Marie Trevelyan.

EDIT: I see Dr Lizardo beat me to it. :)

Anyway, Theresa May is now making her statement in the House of Commons. This should be fun.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:37:12am

re: #205 Alephnaught

And next, Anne-Marie Trevelyan

Theresa May is now making her statement in the House of Commons. This should be fun.

If I were PM, having to deal with these lunatic Brexiteer mofos, this would be my statement in the House of Commons:

Bane Crashing this Plane with No Survivors

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:42:12am

Not sure how reliable this is, but according to this chap, we could be expecting up to 10 resignations from the cabinet.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:45:15am

Oh my goodness. From the Guardian live blog:

May says, when she became PM, there was no plan for Brexit.

May implicitly criticises the Cameron government for not having a plan for Brexit.

Some people said it could not be done. She did not accept that, she says.

She says it has been a frustrating process. It has forced the UK to confront difficult issues.

Once a final deal is agreed, she will come to parliament and ask MPs to back it in the national interest.

May says the choice is clear. We can choose to leave with no deal, or have no Brexit at all ….

That generates loud cheering from some MPs.

Or we can choose this deal, says May.

She says she is delivering for the British people and doing what is in the national interest.

What a shitshow.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:52:03am

BTW Here’s an example of someone who voted for Brexit. Note he does the standard thing of saying “Brexit means Brexit” without defining what Brexit actually means in practise. It’s like saying “Splonge means SPLONGE! Therefore you are compelled to SPLONGE, goddammit!”

Perhaps he can take the English language back as well while he’s at it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 2:58:02am

For anyone who wants to watch, here’s a livestream of the UK Parliament House of Commons. PM May is speaking.

LIVE: May speaks at UK Parliament following cabinet approval of Brexit draft

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:01:27am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

Notice on there that the SNP position is that if there can be a deal where Northern Ireland can remain in the single market, so can Scotland.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:10:08am

From Faisal Islam of Channel 4 News:

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:15:50am

The DUP is not pleased:

DUP leader Nigel Dodds accuses May for reneging on promises and backing plan that would break up UK

Nigel Dodds, the DUP leader, says he could take May through the promises she made in public, and private, to his party. But it would be a waste of time because “she clearly doesn’t listen”. He says the five people who have resigned today have all said May’s deal would compromise the integrity of the UK. We can either vote to protect the UK. Or vote for a vassal state that will break it up, he says.

May says her commitments to Northern Ireland remain.

She says neither side want to see the backstop exercised.

She says she does not accept that she has not considered Northern Ireland in this process. (Dodds signals to her he is not saying that.)

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:18:40am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

For anyone who wants to watch, here’s a livestream of the UK Parliament House of Commons. PM May is speaking.

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Video

Blimey, I’ve been listening to this livestream for the past 25 minutes, and only John Redwood (the UK Conservative equivalent of Dan Quayle) has come to Theresa May’s defence.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:29:02am

re: #214 Alephnaught

Blimey, I’ve been listening to this livestream for the past 25 minutes, and only John Redwood (the UK Conservative equivalent of Dan Quayle) has come to Theresa May’s defence.

I’d be genuinely surprised if she lasts as PM another 48 hours; that being said, she’s remarkably durable and I really don’t know if anyone else is ready to drink from the poisoned chalice that is Brexit.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:32:42am

Here we go…

EDIT: Here’s his question:

(He’s such an oily little shit.)

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 3:51:57am

Wow a lot going on in the UK while I slept. Brexit was another dumb move.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:04:25am

re: #211 Alephnaught

Notice on there that the SNP position is that if there can be a deal where Northern Ireland can remain in the single market, so can Scotland.

One of the arguments against Scottish independence was that it would have left Scotland outside the EU with no guarantee of being accepted.

And that there was no overall plan or concept for implementing independence, it was just an expression of intent.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:05:23am

re: #2 The Vicious Babushka

Has Trump not heard of umbrellas?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:06:53am

re: #219 Patricia Kayden

Has Trump not heard of umbrellas?

he has issues with them, but basically he wants all the glamor and adulation of the Presidency with none of the tedious unpleasantness

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:10:45am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of the arguments against Scottish independence was that it would have left Scotland outside the EU with no guarantee of being accepted.

And that there was no overall plan or concept for implementing independence, it was just an expression of intent.

Right. The Scots got hoodwinked into staying. And the SNP has and should continue to pounce on this. It’s also created new problems in Northern Ireland where Brexit passed but the divide was on old sectarian grounds and with the question of the border.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:12:56am

Brexit is another indictment of rash populism jump started by xenophobic interests. My favorite were seeing the people who wanted Brexit but also wanting to keep the benefits of EU membership basically I want cake all day and I don’t want to be fat.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:12:59am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of the arguments against Scottish independence was that it would have left Scotland outside the EU with no guarantee of being accepted.

And that there was no overall plan or concept for implementing independence, it was just an expression of intent.

Well, the difference with that referendum was that there was about 2 years of intense debate in Scotland prior to that referendum precisely about how independence would be implemented, and it’s implications, hence the EU issues mentioned you mentioned above. It was a very informed debate at all levels of society, hence the high turnout (84.6%!)

I was expecting the debate to be even more intense for the Brexit referendum. In fact there was virtually no discussion of practical issues, instead it was mostly rhetorical posturing and soundbites at best. And it’s been the same since.

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Ming5000  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:15:37am

re: #214 Alephnaught

Interesting to watch. Seems May is firmly moving forward to the cliff in March with no good deal. May also firmly denies request for a new referendum.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:15:47am

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Right. The Scots got hoodwinked into staying. And the SNP has and should continue to pounce on this. It’s also created new problems in Northern Ireland where Brexit passed but the divide was on old sectarian grounds and with the question of the border.

I do not think they got hoodwinked, a lot of people who might have supported independence vited against it because the vital questions of currency, trade,military preparedness (all of the UK’s nuclear subs are stationed in Scotland) and residence status were not at all addressed.

Just like Brexit.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:16:08am

re: #55 goddamnedfrank

Man, that’s my exact reaction to that ridiculous commercial. Why do I need to hear Conservative lies? I’m interested in the truth — not both sides of a story (whatever the hell that actually means).

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:16:43am

re: #223 Alephnaught

Well, the difference with that referendum was that there was about 2 years of intense debate in Scotland prior to that referendum precisely about how independence would be implemented, and it’s implications, hence the EU issues mentioned you mentioned above. It was a very informed debate at all levels of society, hence the high turnout (84.6%!)

I was expecting the debate to be even more intense for the Brexit referendum. In fact there was virtually no discussion of practical issues, instead it was mostly rhetorical posturing and soundbites at best. And it’s been the same since.

Scotland also demonstrated the failure of those who claimed it was an angry and dissatisfied working class driving Brexit. The birth nation of my Nana’s Nana did it right.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:18:49am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not think they got hoodwinked, a lot of people who might have supported independence vited against it because the vital questions of currency, trade,military preparedness (all of the UK’s nuclear subs are stationed in Scotland) and residence status were not at all addressed.

Just like Brexit.

They were told pretty much stay with the UK and we’ll stay with the EU. There definitely was some lying here. There were legitimate questions about leaving the UK but a lot of stayers now regret it because of Brexit.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:19:44am

re: #64 gocart mozart

Kemp has to cheat hard to barely win and yet he’s acting as if he’s been wronged by Abrams. Count the votes.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:22:23am

Also it’s crazy for me to observe this but the SNP is one of the most inclusive parties in the UK. Nicola Sturgeon not Corbyn or May or even the Lib Dems has been the most passionate pro immigrant voice amomg parliamentary parties and as a cousin to two Americans who more or less emigrated to the UK, that means a lot.

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mmmirele  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:24:53am

Some asshat decided to “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump” during an intermisdion at “Fiddler on the Roof” in Baltimore. There’s video. The guy who reported it thought it was a prelude to a shooting.
baltimoresun.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:26:33am

re: #231 mmmirele

Some asshat decided to “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump” during an intermisdion at “Fiddler on the Roof” in Baltimore. There’s video. The guy who reported it thought it was a prelude to a shooting.
baltimoresun.com

like shouting “fire” in as crowded theater, yes…not so much a matter of free speech as as matter of creating a public disturbance

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:26:36am

re: #231 mmmirele

Some asshat decided to “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump” during an intermisdion at “Fiddler on the Roof” in Baltimore. There’s video. The guy who reported it thought it was a prelude to a shooting.
baltimoresun.com

JFC

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:51:56am

And another Brexit resignation:

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:54:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:55:26am

without a government, can there even be a Brexit?

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:58:24am

Something must be coming out today. Orange Foolius be ragin’.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 4:59:58am

re: #237 wheat-dogg

About 30 minutes prior:

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:01:04am

re: #238 wheat-dogg

Heh…..maybe he got a phone call from a journalist asking him for a comment on a soon-to-be-breaking story.

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:02:22am
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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:02:54am

re: #166 goddamnedfrank

I’m so angry about this.

My wife sent me a link to a really cool coat the other day, but because of what you’re talking about I’m not sure which size I should order. I’m not fat (a little round around the middle, I guess), but I’m thinking I’ll just buy the biggest size they’ve got and hope for the best.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:03:08am

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

Heh…..maybe he got a phone call from a journalist asking him for a comment on a soon-to-be-breaking story.

In Trump fashion, what he says is happening in Mueller’s office is likely what is really happening in the West Wing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:06:50am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:11:43am

re: #235 darthstar

He worked for the Bushes and Reagan in fact longer than he did Obama. But we get it Donald, you’re such a victim!

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steve_davis  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:13:36am

re: #36 Belafon

I don’t actually want to know how a dog recognizes child porn by smell.

“Ah hah! I smell the remains of greasy, turkey-based sub sandwiches, and Jared’s fingers, in this drawer! Hey, boss! (ahem…) I mean, WOOF, WOOF!!”

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:17:04am
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Weaselone  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:17:27am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

without a government, can there even be a Brexit?

By default, without a deal doesn’t Brexit just mean the EU kicks the UK out on its ass?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:17:28am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

He worked for the Bushes and Reagan in fact longer than he did Obama. But we get it Donald, you’re such a victim!

Any Republicans who are even concerned about the reputation of their party should be offended. But it shows that these guys do beyond putting party over country, they put their personal interests above those of their own party…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:17:47am

One of those books I’ll read with a bottle of Scotch next to me to dull the pain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:18:13am

re: #246 darthstar

except perhaps in combat…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:19:13am

re: #247 Weaselone

By default, without a deal doesn’t Brexit just mean the EU kicks the UK out on its ass?

yes, but only inasmuch as the British government requested it to do so…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:19:28am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Any Republicans who are even concerned about the reputation of their party should be offended. But it shows that these guys do beyond putting party over country, they put their personal interests above those of their own party…

The fact that rank and file Republicans choose Trump, a pompous blowhard crook over Mueller, a statesman says tons about their intelligence and values.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:21:10am

Mueller is pretty chill. Meanwhile Mr. you need id for cereal is a big screamer who can’t handle anyone who isn’t kissing his ass.

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:22:17am

Fuck

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:25:00am

Two years may feel like a long time, but after the Trump election, the culmination of Democratic apathy and Republican’s turn toward fascism, we were required to have a vote two years later, and we showed that we actually don’t want what Putin is selling. Brexit was the British equivalent of Trump, but nothing in their system forces any kind of response vote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:27:52am

re: #255 Belafon

Two years may feel like a long time, but after the Trump election, the culmination of Democratic apathy and Republican’s turn toward fascism, we were required to have a vote two years later, and we showed that we actually don’t want what Putin is selling. Brexit was the British equivalent of Trump, but nothing in their system forces any kind of response vote.

Brexit was nothing but a referendum to request the British Parliament to initiate Article 50 separation talks with the EU. They could have backed out of it at any time but would have lost face and the faith of the electorate.

But this is all a self-made catastrophe.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:29:56am

Really need that correct feature on twitter.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:30:49am

Jacob Rees-Mogg is going ahead his letter of no confidence in Theresa May, but others in his group are not neccessarily in favour.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:31:10am

Over 96,000 out now (and another 52,000 in southeastern Indiana). MrBWS is going to have a really busy couple of days (he’s supposed to start a week’s vacation after Friday).
Not too bad here in TheBackwoods: got one-tenth inch ice accumulation and about .80 inch of rain so far.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:34:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:37:13am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:37:15am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t this generally a springtime thing?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:37:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:38:43am

re: #262 Dave In Austin

Isn’t this generally a springtime thing?

yes, but it happens this time of year as well

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:41:09am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:42:06am

re: #258 Alephnaught

Jacob Rees-Mogg is going ahead his letter of no confidence in Theresa May, but others in his group are not neccessarily in favour.

Mogg is a hardcore kamikaze Brexiteer. But it looks like others in the ERG recognize that Brexit is utterly toxic and if they really did depose May in an internal putsch, well, then they’ll have to answer the question of which one of them gets to take the next swig?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:43:04am
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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:44:19am

re: #231 mmmirele

Some asshat decided to “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump” during an intermisdion at “Fiddler on the Roof” in Baltimore. There’s video. The guy who reported it thought it was a prelude to a shooting.
baltimoresun.com

Did they kick his ass? I would have.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:47:33am

Here’s the thing regarding PM May’s rather precarious position: If Rees-Mogg’s little attempted putsch fails, then according to Tory rules, she’s safe for an entire year.

That’ll get her well past the Brexit date in March, 2019. If Rees-Mogg fails at this, and he might, I can see a potentially fatal split emerging in the Tories.

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jeffreyw  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:49:34am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:49:51am
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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 5:51:08am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:01:37am

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dumb de dumb dumb dumb.

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steve_davis  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:08:28am

re: #204 Dr Lizardo

And another resignation:

jesus wept. handwriting really is dead the world over, isn’t it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:25:53am

As long as there is no written record, Trump can claim whatever he wants about the summit.

As if if fucking mattered, nobody calls him out, and those that do are banished to the wilderness.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:28:13am

re: #235 darthstar

A total witch hunt unlike any in history!!!

Says The Big Don.

Well, you are unlike any president in history.

Oh yeah…Morning!

Sure is messy in my area, cold rain on a little coating of ice.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:28:23am

Cameron bailed out because he didn’t expect Brexit to actually win and had no plan for it if it did.

Johnson bailed out because Cameron pinned the whole thing (rightly) on him when the eager public came looking for a plan and there was none.

Now May has the plan…and may be tossed because nobody likes it.

The only way this could get more absurd is she goes and nobody wants to be PM because they know their time in the barrel will be even shorter and more violent.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:34:44am

Heh.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:41:17am

re: #278 makeitstop

Heh.

Mueller’s job is to investigate you. Stop fucking crying and they did actually indict a Democrat but since you watch FNC jack you off, you don’t know that.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:42:38am

Really, what we’re witnessing in Parliament right now is what most people have seen coming since Brexit won and the MPs who thought it couldn’t pass bolted out the nearest exists. Eventually there was going to be one of three scenarios: A very bad deal because the EU has absolutely no reason to give in to any of the UK’s demands, crashing out of the EU without any plan and a lot of carnage, or the Tories admitting it was all a mistake and being subsequently savaged for their lying and/or the damage done over choosing to treat Brexit seriously rather than as the joke it was.

So far, we’ve got a bad deal on the table, the reality that rejecting it means the UK will smash into the Brexit bollards way before a new deal can be reached, and May floating the idea of abandoning Brexit altogether.

If there wasn’t going to be economy disaster regardless of which outcome was chosen, I’d be cracking open a bottle of schadenfreude right now.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:42:48am

re: #241 makeitstop

My wife sent me a link to a really cool coat the other day, but because of what you’re talking about I’m not sure which size I should order. I’m not fat (a little round around the middle, I guess), but I’m thinking I’ll just buy the biggest size they’ve got and hope for the best.

Nice coat. I got a gift card from work for Amazon (10 year anniversary working there) and ordered this coat, it was delivered yesterday. I like it lots.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:43:08am

Go, Reg.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:44:45am

re: #281 Eventual Carrion

Nice coat. I got a gift card from work for Amazon (10 year anniversary working there) and ordered this coat, it was delivered yesterday. I like it lots.

That’s nice! My wife bought me one years ago, with a sheepskin lining. The downside is the sheepskin sheds all over everything underneath it, but it’s really handy in cold weather.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:45:58am

From the Guardian:

On Sky News Rory Stewart, the justice minister, is now defending Theresa May’s Brexit plan. Hopefully he will make a better job of if than he did when he was on Radio 5 Live earlier, and went full Donald Trump, making up a statistic in a bid to prove that the deal is popular.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:47:31am

re: #278 makeitstop

Heh.

Today was the day that president Ragey McRageface truly became president

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:49:09am

re: #285 Sir John Barron

Today was the day that president Ragey McRageface truly became president

The pivot! It has arrived!
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:50:58am

re: #276 ObserverArt

A total witch hunt unlike any in history!!!

Says The Big Don.

Well, you are unlike any president in history.

Oh yeah…Morning!

Sure is messy in my area, cold rain on a little coating of ice.

The ice/rain is just getting started here in NW PA.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:51:13am

OK, there is a Mil Mi-8 helicopter doing laps over the northern St. Johns river in Jacksonville right now.
Has Mueller released something today?

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:52:26am

Say for a second that May loses the no-confidence vote before week’s end and/or wins but resigns anyway. Whoever steps up next is pretty much fucked from the get-go because the deal on the table will now be too politically toxic to touch, there’s no real time on the clock left because the EU’s unlikely to agree to “start over,” and that just leaves backing out of Brexit altogether as the “best” option.

It’s no wonder Cameron got out when he did. The party submitted a vote to the people on which poison it liked better and the people decided hemlock tasted better than cyanide.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:53:07am

re: #237 wheat-dogg

Something must be coming out today. Orange Foolius be ragin’.

DJT is spilling the beans on his own chaotic out of control WH.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:54:47am

re: #289 Targetpractice

It’s no wonder Cameron got out when he did. The party submitted a vote to the people on which poison it liked better and the people decided hemlock tasted better than cyanide.

History will not just be unkind to Cameron, it will be brutal. People will piss on his grave forever with urine flowing heavily on every anniversary of the Brexit vote. His political stunt is going to bring down that nation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:55:05am
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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:55:55am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 6:56:40am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:04:22am

Did you get your Grocery ID card yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:04:45am

moron is back at it

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:04:54am

Trump’s twitter ragegasm is warming up again…brace yourselves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:05:17am

re: #294 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Impressive even for him.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:06:49am

Yeah, it’s pretty clear that shit is about to go down. The only question now is what flavor of shit are we looking at. I sort of doubt he’d be wigging out this badly if it were Corsi or Stone about to get visited by the Indictment Fairy.

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:06:51am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is back at it

He can’t mention Lisa Page without talking about her fucking Peter Stzrok.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:07:50am

He knows he’s a fraud. That’s why he’s so angry.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:08:25am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s pretty clear that shit is about to go down. The only question now is what flavor of shit are we looking at. I sort of doubt he’d be wigging out this badly if it were Corsi or Stone about to get visited by the Indictment Fairy.

Dare I dream but one of the boys, Ivanka, or Jared?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:08:43am

Criswell Bacon predicts that tomorrow will be The Ultimate News Dump Toilet Flush when Trumps kids get indicted.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:09:19am

re: #302 HappyWarrior

Dare I dream but one of the boys, Ivanka, or Jared?

Don Jr seems to be the safest bet, as there’s a pretty strong case to make for perjury. And if he’s indicted, he’s gonna roll because he has way more to lose than Jared does by this point.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:09:22am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is back at it

Sounds like Donny missed his “policy time” this morning.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:09:28am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s pretty clear that shit is about to go down. The only question now is what flavor of shit are we looking at. I sort of doubt he’d be wigging out this badly if it were Corsi or Stone about to get visited by the Indictment Fairy.

Donnie Jr., perhaps?

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:09:59am

re: #305 Sir John Barron

Sounds like Donny missed his “policy time” this morning.

Too much executive time today - no time for policy time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:10:03am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:10:38am

re: #304 Targetpractice

Don Jr seems to be the safest bet, as there’s a pretty strong case to make for perjury. And if he’s indicted, he’s gonna roll because he has way more to lose than Jared does by this point.

I’d take it.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:11:22am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only “Collusion” is that of the Democrats with Russia and many others. Why didn’t the FBI take the Server from the DNC? They still don’t have it. Check out how biased Facebook, Google and Twitter are in favor of the Democrats. That’s the real Collusion!

— Donald J. Trump

This is an amazingly bad, Sad, and unhinged tweet, even for this guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:11:41am
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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:13:34am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:14:05am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:14:12am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goddamn I love that guy. His restaurants are great but his humanitarianism is even greater.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:14:34am

re: #310 Sir John Barron

This is an amazingly bad, Sad, and unhinged tweet, even for this guy.

Ranting like a madman in multiple tweets this morning. You can almost smell the stench of fear.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:15:16am
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:15:19am

re: #315 Big Beautiful Door

Ranting like a madman in multiple tweets this morning. You can almost smell the stench of fear.

Is that the new scent from Trump cologne?

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:15:46am

re: #315 Big Beautiful Door

Ranting like a madman in multiple tweets this morning. You can almost smell the stench of fear.

He’s gotta be changing his Depends on an hourly basis.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:17:38am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s so pathetic with the constant whining but yeah Trumpers he’s so alpha. He’s a pathetic baby who is scared of finally facing the consequences for being a crooked asshole.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:17:47am

Looks like momentum is building for the so-called “People’s Referendum” (ie a vote on the Brexit deal.)

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:19:04am

re: #320 Alephnaught

Looks like momentum is building for the so-called “People’s Referendum” (ie a vote on the Brexit deal.)

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Fucking cowards. Don’t have the balls to tell the people that it was all a mistake, think if they run another vote then people won’t blame them for being strung along by lies for 3 years.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:21:12am

re: #321 Targetpractice

Fucking cowards. Don’t have the balls to tell the people that it was all a mistake, think if they run another vote then people won’t blame them for being strung along by lies for 3 years.

British wingnuts are just American ones who sound more sophisticated because of their accents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:23:11am
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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:26:10am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

Universities will someday study what highly conflicted (and NOT Senate approved) Bob Mueller and his gang of…

Actually, when Bob Mueller was originally appointed to head the FBI, he WAS confirmed by the 2001 Senate.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:26:22am

The Tories want a “People’s Vote” to avoid taking the blame for Brexit being abandoned, and the people want the “People’s Vote” to avoid acknowledging they were stupid fucking morons for ever thinking Brexit was a good idea to begin with.

Nobody in this whole mess wants to be the grown-up and say aloud the bleedin’ obvious.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:27:13am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sympathetic to the country’s plight, but what exactly is a “people’s vote”, given that “the people” already voted once? (Disastrously it now appears).

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:28:36am

re: #270 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Looks like somebody has some decent weather.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:29:03am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like a highly professional outfit this Surefire.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:30:33am

re: #272 darthstar

I thought Big Donny said Kim got rid of all their nukes…no more threat.

You mean he bullshitted us. Again.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:30:50am

JFC the clownshow is in full effect now, innit?

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:31:25am

re: #326 Sir John Barron

I’m sympathetic to the country’s plight, but what exactly is a “people’s vote”, given that “the people” already voted once? (Disastrously it now appears).

You ever watch a movie where two friends do something massively stupid and then spend several minutes blaming each other (“You shouldn’t have done that!” “You talked me into it!”) until they both agree that it was a massive screw-up and vow to “Never talk about it again.”

That’s what we’re witnessing, only on a national level.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:32:16am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:33:42am

re: #330 Dr Lizardo

JFC the clownshow is in full effect now, innit?

I’m beginning to think that the much celebrated British parliamentary system might not be the best system after all.

/

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:34:10am

re: #321 Targetpractice

Fucking cowards. Don’t have the balls to tell the people that it was all a mistake, think if they run another vote then people won’t blame them for being strung along by lies for 3 years.

The thing is, I noticed in the replies to that tweet that a Brexiteer argued along the lines of “Be careful of what you wish… We may win again!”. However, if the referendum was a three option question, with “Yes to Brexit deal”, “Yes to Brexit, but no to deal” and “No to Brexit”, then the latter would win as, barring some fluke, the leave vote would be split between the first two options.

I suspect this may be one reason for the government’s firm line against a second referendum, but I could imagine a politician using this tactic as a “get out of Brexit” manoeuvre.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:34:19am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

I’m beginning to think that the much celebrated British parliamentary system might not be the best system after all.

/

Or maybe rather attempts to circumvent that system with referendums isn’t such a good idea.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:36:10am

re: #282 makeitstop

Go, Reg.

I’m not even that big a Elton fan, but that was a great. Got me a bit choked up. He is a consummate artist.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:36:27am
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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:37:02am

re: #321 Targetpractice

Fucking cowards. Don’t have the balls to tell the people that it was all a mistake, think if they run another vote then people won’t blame them for being strung along by lies for 3 years.

The last time politicians in the US or Britain did something courageous, the Democrats lost the House in 2010 and the Senate 4 years later, and we ended up with Trump.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:37:33am

re: #286 makeitstop

The pivot! It has arrived!
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And right during infrastructure week. Quite the accomplishment.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:38:30am

re: #334 Alephnaught

The thing is, I noticed in the replies to that tweet that a Brexiteer argued along the lines of “Be careful of what you wish… We may win again!”. However, if the referendum was a three option question, with “Yes to Brexit deal”, “Yes to Brexit, but no to deal” and “No to Brexit”, then the latter would win as, barring some fluke, the leave vote would be split between the first two options.

I suspect this may be one reason for the government’s firm line against a second referendum, but I could imagine a politician using this tactic as a “get out of Brexit” manoeuvre.

It’s a “Get out of Jail Free” card is all it is. The public have realized Brexit was a massive mistake (either because it was or because of the deal that’s on the table), and the Tories are realizing there’s no good scenario forward that won’t see them resigned to the opposition for a generation. So this vote is being floated as a way for both sides to back out of Brexit without any actual responsibility being accepted.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:41:04am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Brexit is another indictment of rash populism jump started by xenophobic interests. My favorite were seeing the people who wanted Brexit but also wanting to keep the benefits of EU membership basically I want cake all day and I don’t want to be fat.

Day after the 2016 Brexit vote I posted on FB a note of concern about the implications of this decision. A Trumpster friend was very nonchalant — said that this would allow the British to make their own trade decisions. No wonder Boris and Donald are friends — and Trump supporting Americans were also in favor of the results of this vote. Nationalism has poisoned too many minds. Brexit vote certainly presaged the similar Trump vote. In both cases voters didn’t understand what they really were getting but they liked the pretty messages.

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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:41:46am

re: #326 Sir John Barron

I’m sympathetic to the country’s plight, but what exactly is a “people’s vote”, given that “the people” already voted once? (Disastrously it now appears).

I think the difference is that the initial referendum was on the principle of leaving the EU, whilst the “People’s Vote” (I hate that term) is about the negotiated settlement of leaving the EU. Unless “No Brexit” is on the referendum, it’s about how the UK is leaving the EU. There was a similar proposal floated by the SNP re: Independence in that they proposed a second referendum on the independence settlement.

And don’t forget the people already voted about the EU in 1973- to enter it. Of course, no-one seriously talks about respecting that vote.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:42:09am
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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:42:09am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:43:11am

re: #341 Hecuba’s daughter

Day after the 2016 Brexit vote I posted on FB a note of concern about the implications of this decision. A Trumpster friend was very nonchalant — said that this would allow the British to make their own trade decisions. No wonder Boris and Donald are friends — and Trump supporting Americans were also in favor of the results of this vote. Nationalism has poisoned too many minds. Brexit vote certainly presaged the similar Trump vote. In both cases voters didn’t understand what they really were getting but they liked the pretty messages.

“Britain should be allowed to make their own trade decisions.”
“They did, and they decided to be part of the EU.”
“But now they can’t make their own trade decisions.”
“Face palm. Yeah, that hurt so bad I had to say it out loud.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:43:28am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is back at it

He seems to think he can use the Senate to save his fat ass.

He is so looking for someone, anyone to come to his rescue.

If only a couple of those Republican senators could muscle up some strength, he would be finished and be a lame duck the rest of his term, however long that is.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:44:23am

The dog caught the car and now have no fucking clue what to do with it. Funny how two nations (US with Donny, UK with Brexit) fell for the same damned thing.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:47:12am

re: #341 Hecuba’s daughter

Day after the 2016 Brexit vote I posted on FB a note of concern about the implications of this decision. A Trumpster friend was very nonchalant — said that this would allow the British to make their own trade decisions. No wonder Boris and Donald are friends — and Trump supporting Americans were also in favor of the results of this vote. Nationalism has poisoned too many minds. Brexit vote certainly presaged the similar Trump vote. In both cases voters didn’t understand what they really were getting but they liked the pretty messages.

I know a couple Brits- husbands of cousins who saw this for the disaster it is. It was the same bs as you get at that led people to support Trump.

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:47:12am

re: #347 Targetpractice

The dog caught the car and now have no fucking clue what to do with it. Funny how two nations (US with Donny, UK with Brexit) fell for the same damned thing.

Забавно, как две нации (США с Донни, Великобритания с Брекситом) пали на ту же проклятую вещь.
Zabavno, kak dve natsii (SSHA s Donni, Velikobritaniya s Breksitom) pali na tu zhe proklyatuyu veshch’.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:48:00am

re: #237 wheat-dogg

Something must be coming out today. Orange Foolius be ragin’.

Maybe it’s just the written questions he answered. Perhaps Trump lied his way through them but it finally dawned on him that Mueller might have independent verification of what happened.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:50:03am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:50:20am

Unbelievable

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:50:42am

re: #282 makeitstop

Go, Reg.

Damn, that’s exquisite.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:52:45am

re: #352 Patricia Kayden

Unbelievable

“Universal Health Care” - Clinton
“Healthier Lunches” - Obama

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jeffreyw  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:54:05am

re: #327 ObserverArt

Looks like somebody has some decent weather.

If you count an inch of wet snow as decent. That pic was taken earlier. I have it out because it will be one of my calendar submission for the 2019 Balloon Juice pet calendar.
This was from this morning, showing my newest rig for bird feeder pics:

Imgur

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:54:20am

re: #297 darthstar

Trump’s twitter ragegasm is warming up again…brace yourselves.

it’s ignorant stuff so i ignore it

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:55:31am

re: #353 William Lewis

Damn, that’s exquisite.

Inorite? What a beautiful ad.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:56:54am

re: #355 jeffreyw

If you count an inch of wet snow as decent. That pic was taken earlier. I have it out because it will be one of my calendar submission for the 2019 Balloon Juice pet calendar.
This was from this morning, showing my newest rig for bird feeder pics:

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Weather forecast here in Ostrava shows snow by Wednesday of next week.

I went ahead and washed the winter clothes just to be safe, LOL.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:57:23am

Confirmation hearing for new head of ICE, Ronald Vitiello:

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:57:29am

re: #317 Targetpractice

Is that the new scent from Trump cologne?

///

‘ranting like a madman” or
‘stench of fear”?

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 7:58:37am

re: #318 darthstar

He’s gotta be changing his Depends on an hourly basis.

one would hope….

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:00:38am

re: #359 jaunte

Confirmation hearing for new head of ICE, Ronald Vitiello:

Vittello. Is that Lakota for stupid shithead?

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:01:34am

re: #352 Patricia Kayden

Unbelievable

Except it’s not her business who’s on the NS staff, you twit who lived running unsourced stories about how HRCs staff hated her.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:02:13am

re: #299 Targetpractice

Yeah, it’s pretty clear that shit is about to go down. The only question now is what flavor of shit are we looking at. I sort of doubt he’d be wigging out this badly if it were Corsi or Stone about to get visited by the Indictment Fairy.

Unless he knows if Stone starts talking the whole thing could come down. That is not to say Stone did it all, but he may be enough to tie some loose ends.

Or, it is about all the stuff Rachel talked about last night?

More on Whitaker being sketchy at best, his relationship to Sam Clovis who was the Trump national campaign chairman and hired Carter Page and George Papadopoulos. Plus the reports that Rick Gates keeps on talking with Mueller in not only the Russian investigation but now in SEVERAL investigations.

Trump’s plate is full of bad stuff for him to swallow. It must be bitter.

Here is Rachel’s rather long piece on all that. The Gates stuff is around the 8:40 mark.

Iframe

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:03:46am

re: #320 Alephnaught

Looks like momentum is building for the so-called “People’s Referendum” (ie a vote on the Brexit deal.)

Finally a step back from the brink towards sanity?

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:06:07am

re: #357 makeitstop

Inorite? What a beautiful ad.

I usually despise advertising for the tricks of it’s trade, but every once in a while you get something like that that makes you appreciate it better. It ticks off every point and yet in the end you don’t care that it’s twisting your emotions. You just wipe your eyes and smile anyway. Very well done and, in it’s own way, a delightful bit of drama.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:06:26am

re: #326 Sir John Barron

I’m sympathetic to the country’s plight, but what exactly is a “people’s vote”, given that “the people” already voted once? (Disastrously it now appears).

Maybe a vote on the reality of Brexit, rather than the fantasy Brexit in which they all get flying unicorns farting rainbows. With a hard border in Ireland, food shortages, job losses, etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:07:11am

Annnnd……another one:

that’s seven today so far.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:08:42am

re: #333 Sir John Barron

I’m beginning to think that the much celebrated British parliamentary system might not be the best system after all.

/

There is no perfect system of foolproof government, because fools are geniuses when it comes to fucking things up.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:08:55am
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:09:30am

re: #355 jeffreyw

If you count an inch of wet snow as decent. That pic was taken earlier. I have it out because it will be one of my calendar submission for the 2019 Balloon Juice pet calendar.
This was from this morning, showing my newest rig for bird feeder pics:

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You done threw me off!

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:10:01am

re: #366 William Lewis

I usually despise advertising for the tricks of it’s trade, but every once in a while you get something like that that makes you appreciate it better. It ticks off every point and yet in the end you don’t care that it’s twisting your emotions. You just wipe your eyes and smile anyway. Very well done and, in it’s own way, a delightful bit of drama.

Drama’s always been EJ’s strong suit. So to speak. :)

I saw him on his first tour, opening for Faces at the Electric Factory in Philly, just him, Dee and Nigel. He took the stage in yellow overalls and gold-sparkled Doc Maartens.

‘Your Song’ had not yet broken on radio, and everybody was like, ‘Who is this guy?’ Needless to say, his little combo stole the show. Rod had to work extra hard that night.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:12:45am

re: #364 ObserverArt

Unless he knows if Stone starts talking the whole thing could come down. That is not to say Stone did it all, but he may be enough to tie all some loose ends.

Or, it is about all the stuff Rachel talked about last night?

More on Whitaker being sketchy at best, his relationship to Sam Clovis who was the Trump national campaign chairman and hired Carter Page and George Papadopoulos. Plus the reports that Rick Gates keeps on talking with Mueller in not only the Russian investigation but now in SEVERAL investigations.

Trump’s plate is full of bad stuff for him to swallow. It must be bitter.

Here is Rachel’s rather long piece on all that. The Gates stuff is around the 8:40 mark.

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part of his problem is there’s nothing to use for distraction

rallies would be meaningless
there’s no legislation
caravan? what caravan?

since he doesnt really do any work, there are no accomplishments to report

if he doesnt manufacture something then all he can do is wait to get hit with something - he doesnt know what or from what direction it will be coming

not an enviable position for that kind of ego

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:12:59am

re: #370 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That’s it. Can’t match the signatures. Proof Rick Scott if a fraud!

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:14:00am

Just like everyone else who’s paid attention, I’ve gotten pretty tired of Avenatti.

That said, I’m really going to enjoy watching him gut J-Cob like a trout.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:14:22am

re: #369 Big Beautiful Door

There is no perfect system of foolproof government, because fools are geniuses when it comes to fucking things up.

there are a variety of good enough systems
until you put people in them

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:15:20am

re: #372 makeitstop

Drama’s always been EJ’s strong suit. So to speak. :)

I saw him on his first tour, opening for Faces at the Electric Factory in Philly, just him, Dee and Nigel. He took the stage in yellow overalls and gold-sparkled Doc Maartens.

‘Your Song’ had not yet broken on radio, and everybody was like, ‘Who is this guy?’ Needless to say, his little combo stole the show. Rod had to work extra hard that night.

That had to have been a heck of a show.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:16:07am

re: #373 dangerman

part of his problem is there’s nothing to use for distraction

rallies would be meaningless
there’s no legislation
caravan? what caravan?

since he doesnt really do any work, there are no accomplishments to report

if he doesnt manufacture something then all he can do is wait to get hit with something - he doesnt know what or from what direction it will be coming

not an enviable position for that kind of ego

We only see the twitter eruptions and hear a few reports on his grumping around.

I bet it is a white hot mess in The White House with people cowering in the corners trying to stay out of the storm path.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:18:01am

re: #376 dangerman

there are a variety of good enough systems
until you put people in them

As we’re learning, though, machines are only as good as the people teaching them. GIGO, but we’re not sure with machine learning what actually qualifies as garbage in.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:19:45am

re: #377 William Lewis

That had to have been a heck of a show.

Oh, it was. EJ attacked the piano from every conceivable angle, at one point lying face-down on top of it and playing a solo. I could never figure out how he could play backwards and up-side down.

And Faces were nearing their arena-hero era and Rod had conquered his legendary shyness. Like every Faces show, it was a great big boozy singalong. And as per usual, every one of them were impeccably dressed. :)

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:22:27am

re: #368 Dr Lizardo

Annnnd……another one:

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that’s seven today so far.

Everybody’s jumping out the windows now that the farce is reaching its conclusion. The Tories spent years dragging this shit out, in small part trading on the threat that removing them from power would mean Brexit coming tumbling down. Now we’re fast approaching the 11th hour and the only deal that’s only the table smells of flop sweat and broken promises. So they’re bailing before the inevitable happens.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:23:25am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:24:19am

re: #366 William Lewis

I usually despise advertising for the tricks of it’s trade, but every once in a while you get something like that that makes you appreciate it better. It ticks off every point and yet in the end you don’t care that it’s twisting your emotions. You just wipe your eyes and smile anyway. Very well done and, in it’s own way, a delightful bit of drama.

At least their selling something beautiful instead of a piece of crap.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:28:30am

re: #382 Ace-o-aces

Wohl is a dumber Rage Furby

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Dr. Matt  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:29:36am

re: #382 Ace-o-aces

Is the implication that Jacob Wohl bribed another woman to claim she was abused?

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:31:49am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

Is the implication that Jacob Wohl bribed another woman to claim she was abused?

We don’t know yet.

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Interesting Times  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:35:16am

re: #386 Big Beautiful Door

We don’t know yet.

And if this is in fact a genuine allegation, it could be that corn-boy is falsely claiming credit as his latest beyond-pathetic PR stunt.

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makeitstop  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:35:30am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

Is the implication that Jacob Wohl bribed another woman to claim she was abused?

First report from TMZ (who may be complicit, their CEO is a big Trump guy) was that the woman was his wife. They later updated the page without noting the correction. The details are still pretty thin, and the woman who was allegedly attacked is still anonymous.

And the Surefire Twitter account tweeted ‘Surefire strikes again’ yesterday and Wohl was bragging about ‘getting’ both Mueller and Avenatti.

The kid thinks he’s smart, but he’s only smart enough to get up to his neck in legal trouble. Stepping to a shark like Avenatti is not gonna end well for him.

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John Hughes  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:37:55am

re: #247 Weaselone

By default, without a deal doesn’t Brexit just mean the EU kicks the UK out on its ass?

Your understanding of Article 50 of TFEU is worthy of a US Supreme Court Judge. A real one I mean, not the rapist.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:39:33am
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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:39:47am

re: #378 ObserverArt

We only see the twitter eruptions and hear a few reports on his grumping around.

I bet it is a white hot mess in The White House with people cowering in the corners trying to stay out of the storm path.

i agree with you while he’s tweeting:

re: #238 wheat-dogg

The White House is running very smoothly and the results for our Nation are obviously very good. We are the envy of the world. But anytime I even think about making changes, the FAKE NEWS MEDIA goes crazy, always seeking to make us look as bad as possible! Very dishonest!

yeah sure it is….

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:41:05am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Vittello. Is that Lakota for stupid shithead?

PBS tv rec:

a series called Native America… it’s mostly about pre-Columbian times (from 13,000 years ago until), but in ep 4 they get into the conquistadors.

Apparently there was a priest who felt his conversion efforts would be more successful if he truly understood Aztec beliefs as a starting point for discussion, so he hired some local scribes to write a whole illustrated encyclopedia about their history, culture, etc. It’s 14 volumes. Each page has the story in Spanish in one column, and Nahuatl in the other. That codex is now in Vatican possession.

Turns out, it’s not actually a “translation” as such; 100 years of it is the story from two points of view. The Nahuatl version goes into a lot of detail about stuff the Spanish would have preferred not be told, like specific minute-by-minute accounts of some of the massacres. 1521 is when Spain won the war, with the Aztecs’ unconditional surrender and becoming a subject people.

The final chapter is about the 1576 Smallpox epidemic that killed almost 80% of the Maya and Aztec. At this point in the book, the beautiful full-color illustrations have given way to line drawings, because there’s nobody left to make the dyes.

Pre-Columbus, there were about 100 million people in the Americas. By 1600, there were 10 million. (which certainly made things easier for English-then-American troops; imagine if they’d had to try to conquer a ten times larger force than what they actually faced.)

Today, there’s about 50 million indigenous in the entire hemisphere (most of them well south of the US).

ep 4 also has a great history of the Comanche, including rock carvings depicting the battle in which they defeated their first set of Spanish troops (the same year the Mayflower arrived) and took all their animals, and how they very quickly became the greatest horsemen the world had ever seen. The territory they dominated for 200 years was larger than I’d realized.

Here’s ep 1
pbs.org

free until the 20th.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:42:30am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

He worked for the Bushes and Reagan in fact longer than he did Obama. But we get it Donald, you’re such a victim!

based on the way he thinks, obama’s admin should have been staffed only by democrats top to bottom

it’s how he does it - of course that’s the bogus loyalty thing. if youre not at least an R, you cant be trusted. and even then….

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:43:04am

re: #390 Dave In Austin

You know, if indeed Wohl was behind this, I wouldn’t wanna be him for all the whiskey in Ireland. Avenatti will eat him alive.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:47:31am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:48:13am

So, I found this…..a Blade Runner inspired jazz song.

Sunships On The Shores Of Mars - Bluey (Official Video)

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:50:54am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The man is a defense lawyer’s worst nightmare, he just doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up. This is like a textbook example of how to lose an “obstruction of justice” case.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:52:48am

re: #293 Dave In Austin

Heartbreaking.

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:55:23am

re: #329 ObserverArt

I thought Big Donny said Kim got rid of all their nukes…no more threat.

You mean he bullshitted us. Again.

He’s bullshitting us. Still.

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:57:16am

re: #398 Patricia Kayden

Heartbreaking.

I talked to my brother who lives up north and he said he knows too many people in Paradise who lost everything that he can’t even watch the news right now.

He himself lost everything in the French Gulch fire a few years back.

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:57:30am

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is actively interfering in an ongoing federal investigation into Trump, his campaign, and his cronies.

18 USC 1510, to say nothing of witness tampering.

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John Hughes  Nov 15, 2018 • 8:59:47am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

Mogg is a hardcore kamikaze Brexiteer. But it looks like others in the ERG recognize that Brexit is utterly toxic

You appear not to know what the ERG is.

The ERG is Brexit, Brexit is ERG. They don’t think Brexit is toxic, they just disagree about how to get it.

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darthstar  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:01:21am
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Alephnaught  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:02:36am

Remember what I said in #334 about the possibility of a three way “People’s Vote” (gah) referendum on Brexit splitting the pro-Brexit vote, leading to a remain vote win?

Note the combined pro-Brexit vote is still smaller than remain. One of the problems about the referendum is that pro-Brexit could get a bigger combined vote, and remain would still win. That doesn’t appear to be the case here.

So, according to polling at least, most people would strongly support a referendum that would inevitably lead to a remain win.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:03:14am

re: #384 bd(soros funded)

Wohl is a dumber Rage Furby

I hate Furby big time, but even he has it all over Wohl.

I don’t think I have ever seen anyone trying so hard in public to be something and being totally shot down and not knowing how how much he has failed or how he comes off to everyone that has one brain cell or more.

Wait, I take that back.

There is Trump.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:04:50am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

Is the implication that Jacob Wohl bribed another woman to claim she was abused?

He had to have someone or something to trigger the police to arrest Avenatti.

I don’t think you can just call in a report and the cops run out and arrest the person reported without some cause.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:06:12am

Some damn malware infected my Google Chrome making it almost unusable. Clean up computer didn’t work, so I used restore original settings which seems to have done the trick without eliminating my bookmarks and saved passwords.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:08:57am

re: #403 darthstar

The simple happy life of dogs

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:11:22am

re: #403 darthstar

Alright! New Darth doggie images!

Merle looks like he has his full blue coat.

I notice he is giving you some side-eye for taking the image.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:11:56am

re: #296 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron is back at it

and all of his friends on the other side?

Friends on the Other Side - Princess and the Frog

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:12:33am

re: #406 ObserverArt

He had to have someone or something to trigger the police to arrest Avenatti.

I don’t think you can just call in a report and the cops run out and arrest the person reported without some cause.

If you do it through 911 many police departments will rush right out and shoot a black person for you

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:13:45am

re: #235 darthstar

“The envy of the world”

Shut the fuck up you horrible orange shitweasel.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:17:21am

re: #412 Eclectic Cyborg

“The envy of the world”

Shut the fuck up you horrible orange shitweasel.

huffpo says no

Donald Trump Becomes Twitter Laughingstock Over ‘Envy Of The World’ Boast

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:22:06am
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:22:36am

re: #407 Big Beautiful Door

Some damn malware infected my Google Chrome making it almost unusable. Clean up computer didn’t work, so I used restore original settings which seems to have done the trick without eliminating my bookmarks and saved passwords.

I’m really hating Chrome. On some sites that have a lot of video ads, etc. it will open up so many processes it just becomes a bog.

And I know people make money off adds…but I can’t stand that it seems you have to wait for all the ads to come in before you can touch the actual content you’re interested in.

There has to be a better way to do the web ads. I think the way it works now is not beneficial to the advertisers.

I still think the ads need to be loaded onto the server the site is on so they are available quicker by not having to use all the new outside connections that slow the loading down.

That would probably kill the ad services from going through your cookies to load ads from places you recently visited.

Wait, that might not be a bad thing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:22:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:25:54am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Gülen better get himself on the next goddamn plane to Canada and ask for asylum there.

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TedStriker  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:27:17am

re: #414 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Adios, Roy.

Roy Clark can play any genre!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:32:06am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:33:24am
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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:33:55am

re: #419 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And so the very last GOP Congressman from NE bites the dust. Susan Collins is now the last Republican from NE in Congress.

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:34:19am

This is beautiful. And yes, it’s a commercial.

John Lewis & Partners Christmas Ad 2018 - #EltonJohnLewis 🎹

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:37:07am

re: #214 Alephnaught

Blimey, I’ve been listening to this livestream for the past 25 minutes, and only John Redwood (the UK Conservative equivalent of Dan Quayle) has come to Theresa May’s defence.

I heard him on an NPR interview yesterday. The stick up his arse went up so far it affected his tongue. Every question he sneered at the NPR interviewer. Not Trump level of disparagement: just a higher tone version.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:37:27am

Have to say, back when I smoked, I enjoyed a menthol now and then

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:37:37am

re: #411 dangerman

If you do it through 911 many police departments will rush right out and shoot a black person for you

Sadly you are right.

I mentioned yesterday the Ohio House passed a new stand your ground law.

Even John Kasich said he didn’t want it and will veto.

I contacted my Rep ( a Democrat - urban Columbus) and said it would be dangerous for urban areas and the idiots that passed it are all from the rural areas of Ohio and don’t even need the damn law.

So, what happens. A Black woman Rep from Cleveland brought up that very point singling out the House Speaker’s area and the Speaker blew up and shut her down.

The Speaker is a stand in because the previous Speaker was forced to resign due to massive corruption. I looked up where he is from because I was unfamiliar with him.

Sure enough, he represents Gallia and Jackson counties as well as much of Lawrence and Vinton. They are as Appalachia Ohio and full of bubbas as they come and are all right at the bottom point of Ohio.

Here is the sad video. I stand with the Cleveland Rep. I think she was on point.

Here is a link to associated article is anyone is interested.

NBC 4i - Ohio representative’s objection to ‘Stand Your Ground’ gaveled down by Speaker

Iframe

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:38:53am

And so we see the Southern Strategy come to full fruition. The GOP is virtually extinct in New England, at least on the federal level. Unless Poliquin wins his long shot suit to have ranked choice voting declared unconstitutional.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:40:13am

re: #420 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn! Give a man up to the Turks? The RWNJs really meant it when they threatened to “go medieval” on their enemies.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:41:09am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

.@NBCNews reports White House is looking to give up an asylum seeker to Erdogan so he will be easier on Saudi for killing a journalist? What the actual fuck?

He has been living in Pennsylvania since the late 1990s.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:41:10am

re: #422 plansbandc

This is beautiful. And yes, it’s a commercial.

[Embedded content]

Look up thread…a lot of comments on makeitstop’s posting of the video.

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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:42:03am

re: #429 ObserverArt

I missed it.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:42:57am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:43:07am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jesus I just got triggered. I have no idea what the name of that movie is, but I saw it as a child and it traumatized me.

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:43:54am

re: #406 ObserverArt

I don’t think you can just call in a report and the cops run out and arrest the person reported without some cause.

Not white people, anyway.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:44:17am

re: #425 ObserverArt

Sadly you are right.

I mentioned yesterday the Ohio House passed a new stand your ground law.

Even John Kasich said he didn’t want it and will veto.

I contacted my Rep ( a Democrat - urban Columbus) and said it would be dangerous for urban areas and the idiots that passed it are all from the rural areas of Ohio and don’t even need the damn law.

So, what happens. A Black woman Rep from Cleveland brought up that very point singling out the House Speaker’s area and the Speaker blew up and shut her down.

The Speaker is a stand in because the previous Speaker was forced to resign due to massive corruption. I looked up where he is from because I was unfamiliar with him.

Sure enough, he represents Gallia and Jackson counties as well as much of Lawrence and Vinton. They are as Appalachia Ohio and full of bubbas as they come and are all right at the bottom point of Ohio.

Here is the sad video. I stand with the Cleveland Rep. I think she was on point.

Here is a link to associated article is anyone is interested.

NBC 4i - Ohio representative’s objection to ‘Stand Your Ground’ gaveled down by Speaker

[Embedded content]

parliamentary procedure - the last refuge of someone who doesnt want the truth spoken out loud

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:45:20am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

Over 96,000 out now (and another 52,000 in southeastern Indiana). MrBWS is going to have a really busy couple of days (he’s supposed to start a week’s vacation after Friday).
Not too bad here in TheBackwoods: got one-tenth inch ice accumulation and about .80 inch of rain so far.

We were supposed to get 1-3 inches of snow last night, with a possible inch or so additionally this morning. Heh. It was coming in over the top of my boots as I fed the horses, and still coming. 8 inches, easy.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:45:46am

re: #430 plansbandc

I missed it.

No problem, just thought you might like some of our responses to the commercial. It’s great.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:47:25am
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plansbandc  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:47:33am

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Kilroy was here  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:47:57am

re: #432 Barefoot Grin

Jesus I just got triggered. I have no idea what the name of that movie is, but I saw it as a child and it traumatized me.

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:48:27am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Reminder: this is the guy Michael Flynn was negotiating to have deported. And if that didn’t work, to have him kidnapped and secretly renditioned.

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:49:48am

Will judges call for Florida to hold a new vote?

They need it, and the whole process needs to be overseen by outside experts to monitor what is going on.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:49:52am

i have been a registered independent my whole life
the reasoning isnt important
as far as i can recall i have always voted straight D anyway

i just mailed off an updated voter registration application

i’m now (or will be) a registered democrat
and i kept a copy so i know what they think my signature should look like

mrs dm made the switch as well, though they accepted her application online
im guessing it’s cause her renewed driver license is more recent than mine
they automatically used her DL signature - so we know that too.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:51:41am

re: #442 dangerman

The reason I switched from Independent to Democrat was to vote in primaries. My state has closed primaries.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:52:10am

WHAT?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:53:33am

re: #431 Patricia Kayden

President Conspiracy Theory will just love this.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:54:25am
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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:55:39am

re: #437 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A federal judge slammed Florida on Thursday for repeatedly failing to anticipate election problems

this is what i’ve been wrestling with

poor planning by the boards of elections wrt
- early voting
- election day
- vote counting
disfranchises people who actually did vote
- without their knowledge
- without notice or notification
- and with no ability to redress it

it’s heinous and way worse than being knocked off the registration rolls

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Sir John Barron  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:55:48am

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just another day in Drump’s America.

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:55:55am

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’d vote for JK Rowling for Prime Minister or President or whatever, I could, if I could.

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:57:21am

re: #449 retired cynic

I’d vote for JK Rowling for Prime Minister or President or whatever, I could, if I could.

Time for The Queen to take over that stuff again, she has been waiting patiently for a long, long time.

//

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:57:33am

re: #446 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I’m sure if asked, Mitch would burble up that piss-poor excuse from what seems ages ago that Trump would never sign the bill so bringing it up for a vote would be pointless.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:58:09am

re: #441 ObserverArt

Will judges call for Florida to hold a new vote?

They need it, and the whole process needs to be overseen by outside experts to monitor what is going on.

No, that won’t happen.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:58:19am

re: #438 plansbandc

[Embedded content]

cat replies “what is?”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:58:59am
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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 9:59:46am

re: #443 Patricia Kayden

The reason I switched from Independent to Democrat was to vote in primaries. My state has closed primaries.

that’s a big part of it, for sure

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:00:54am

re: #451 Targetpractice

I’m sure if asked, Mitch would burble up that piss-poor excuse from what seems ages ago that Trump would never sign the bill so bringing it up for a vote would be pointless.

If enough GOP Senators had the guts to vote to override his veto, it wouldn’t be pointless.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:01:42am

re: #439 Kilroy was here

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

That’s it! Thanks, I think.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:03:36am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Hearing that a lot of that seems to be wrong.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:04:39am

re: #421 Big Beautiful Door

And so the very last GOP Congressman from NE bites the dust. Susan Collins is now the last Republican from NE in Congress.

Right now…but likely not for long.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:05:13am

re: #451 Targetpractice

I’m sure if asked, Mitch would burble up that piss-poor excuse from what seems ages ago that Trump would never sign the bill so bringing it up for a vote would be pointless.

hey mitch, if it’s important enough, you know to preserve the constitution and ensure the president doesnt kill an investigation into him (more or less) there’s this thing called override…

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:05:15am

re: #424 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Have to say, back when I smoked, I enjoyed a menthol now and then

I am a smoker and only smoke menthol.

This sucks.

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:08:02am

re: #461 MsJ

I am a smoker and only smoke menthol.

This sucks.

menthol flavored cigarette holders

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:08:07am

re: #444 goddamnedfrank

WHAT?

[Embedded content]

When did we let the Sith lords take over?

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:09:07am

Dunno if it’s been noted here, but there’s been another Red-to-Blue flip: ME-02. (D) Jared Golden was certified the winner by the Maine SoS by about a 2900-vote margin (50.53%) over incumbent (R) Bruce Poliquin.

What’s unusual here is that Maine used a Ranked Choice Voting system: Poliquin was up slightly in the first round, but fell behind when the #3 choices were allocated.

Rep. Poliquin also apparently failed in a court move to try to get the RCV system declared “unconstitutional”, i.e. the usual Republican last-ditch attempt.

So, supposedly NO Republican Congresspeople from New England left at all, outside of Sen. Susan Collins. Hopefully, she’ll be next.

Ooops: didn’t see nos. 419 and 421. Sorry

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:10:00am

re: #462 dangerman

menthol flavored cigarette holders

I have now tried literally seven different e-cigarettes and none of them taste good. I have three devices and multiple throw aways. They all taste shitty. Most are minty (I don’t like mint) and the ones that are closer to menthol have a bitter taste.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:10:19am

re: #432 Barefoot Grin

Jesus I just got triggered. I have no idea what the name of that movie is, but I saw it as a child and it traumatized me.

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The child catcher.

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:12:42am

re: #430 plansbandc

I missed it.

Better a repeat of that ad than of one of Trumpenfuhrer’s tweets.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:17:54am

re: #466 Scottish Dragon

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. The child catcher.

I loved the music, but apparently I had erased that character and the movie from my memory. Wow. It still freaks me out.

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:18:12am

re: #463 Scottish Dragon

When did we let the Sith lords take over?

January 20, 2017.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:18:58am

Fucking right.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:20:14am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:27:44am

re: #461 MsJ

I am a smoker and only smoke menthol.

This sucks.

re: #465 MsJ

I have now tried literally seven different e-cigarettes and none of them taste good. I have three devices and multiple throw aways. They all taste shitty. Most are minty (I don’t like mint) and the ones that are closer to menthol have a bitter taste.

You should have a few years of menthol bliss before the rules can possibly go into effect.
So, don’t go racing out to spend all your saving to stockpile cigs just yet

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:28:47am
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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:28:50am

Dammit all..again.

Another text from Ohio DNC.

Now the Republicans are ramming through a what is being called an unconstitutional bill that would effectively ban abortion in Ohio. Probably the “Heartbeat” bill.

Again Kasich said he wouldn’t let that through, but fucking DeWine will.

These Republican assholes are out of control. They are obviously feeling they can do anything after they kept the House and elected DeWine governor.

We are in a world of hurt here in Ohio. I’m pissed.

Grrrrrrr. Time to contact my Rep again.

Fuck DeWine. Fuck Kasich and Fuck the Ohio Republican Party.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:29:13am

re: #472 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You should have a few years of menthol bliss before the rules can possibly go into effect.
So, don’t go racing out to spend all your saving to stockpile cigs just yet

I have to quit in December as I am having some surgery, so maybe I will quit for good.

I have quit before, once for 15 years. But I quit because I wanted to.

I am having a sad.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:29:49am

Why in the hell is Anthony Scaramucci following me now on twitter??!!

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:31:55am

re: #465 MsJ

I have now tried literally seven different e-cigarettes and none of them taste good. I have three devices and multiple throw aways. They all taste shitty. Most are minty (I don’t like mint) and the ones that are closer to menthol have a bitter taste.

Sorry it was all I could think of

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Big Beautiful Door  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:33:51am

re: #475 MsJ

I have to quit in December as I am having some surgery, so maybe I will quit for good.

I have quit before, once for 15 years. But I quit because I wanted to.

I am having a sad.

Quitting is the best option; but you already know why, so I’m not going to lecture you.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:35:07am
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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:35:31am

re: #477 dangerman

Sorry it was all I could think of

Appreciated!!

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:36:03am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

THIS is why the white house cannot be in control of who has “access”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:36:03am

re: #475 MsJ

I have to quit in December as I am having some surgery, so maybe I will quit for good.

I have quit before, once for 15 years. But I quit because I wanted to.

I am having a sad.

My current abstention is approaching 14 years

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lawhawk  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:36:03am

re: #471 Charles Johnson

Antifa is the problem?

Bulkshit.

UPDATE:
Looks like this was a 2012 incident… my bad.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:37:05am

The freaking Mooch found me somehow on twitter and now that bell has been rung.

Gonna leave that there just because.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:38:27am
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CongoJack  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:40:08am

re: #485 Barefoot Grin

[Embedded content]

And the Emmy goes to…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:40:23am

Just like Republican Jesus taught.

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:42:01am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Republican Jesus taught.

My… was going to say God, but no God is involved in this ghastly decision!

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:43:17am

re: #479 MsJ

Russia aside
Shorter
Mitch:: be bipartisan!
Here’s a bipartisan bill
Mitch:no

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:45:30am
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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:46:20am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Republican Jesus taught.

[Embedded content]

Utterly sick.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:48:42am

Looks like the Murdoch Street Journal is All In.

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Belafon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:48:49am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Republican Jesus taught.

“Do you have a permit for that miracle, Jesus?”

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ObserverArt  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:49:08am

re: #491 Scottish Dragon

Utterly sick.

It is inhumane.

If there is a Christian God, he has abandoned this country. This is the work of evil in disguise as a god.

Our country, no, our world is sick.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:51:06am

re: #491 Scottish Dragon

Utterly sick.

On one hand I understand…because there are assholes who would poison food for the homeless. On the other than this is an organization dedicated to helping.

But this is sad to watch.

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sagehen  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:51:08am

re: #446 jaunte

Let’s remember that the day before Obama was inaugurated, McConnell and Cantor led a caucus meeting where it was decided they would obstruct EVERYTHING. They would filibuster EVERYTHING. Before Obama proposed any legislation or put forth any nominees, McConnell had already instructed his senators that it was required by the party that they unanimously oppose each and every thing, even if it was something they themselves had suggested the previous week.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:51:22am

re: #490 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

We knew for years that either Brexit would collapse into a pile of rancid-smelling goo or the Tories would. This is what happens when political careers are built upon hate.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:52:14am

re: #488 retired cynic

My… was going to say God, but no God is involved in this ghastly decision!

Applying the Health Dept’s safety principle would shut down every church pot-luck in the city.

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:52:25am

re: #484 Scottish Dragon

The freaking Mooch found me somehow on twitter and now that bell has been rung.

[Embedded content]

Gonna leave that there just because.

Nah, I’ll go for this future instead:

Traveller RPG Type S scout ship
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MsJ  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:53:21am

This is an organization that needs to fucking die.

They’ve lost mother Russia’s funding and now…

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A Mom Anon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:53:46am

re: #494 ObserverArt

More grocery stores than you realize do this to outdated food, especially perishable stuff. They say it’s to prevent someone from eating possibly spoiled food, which I get. But it’s also a stupid waste when you could call any number of soup kitchens or food pantries and they would be grateful for the donations. What was done in your link was fucking mean and hateful. What the hell is wrong with this country?

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dangerman  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:55:47am

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Republican Jesus taught.

It’s one thing to not issue a permit without a health inspection…IF required

It’s another to do this because…paperwork

I can’t tell whhich it is

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A Mom Anon  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:55:54am

re: #500 MsJ

Let’s see, now where did I put my sympathy and tiny violins? Hmmmm, oh I remember now, I ran over them with my car, repeatedly. Ooops.

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Jay C  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:58:00am

re: #493 Belafon

re: #487 The Vicious Babushka

Just like Republican Jesus taught.

“Do you have a permit for that miracle, Jesus?”

“Can we see the sell-by dates on those loaves and fishes, please?”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:59:09am

OK, the Secretary of the Air Force (or a member of her staff) just replied to me

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NetworkKed  Nov 15, 2018 • 10:59:52am

(Random charity aside from a lurker… )

So my favorite internet fundraiser of the year is into its last day. Check out desertbus.org where a Canadian comedy troupe and friends are playing the most tedious video game ever, auctioning and raffling off prizes, singing, dancing, and other hilariously random things. This is probably the longest-running gaming-centric fundraiser, and they support Child’s Play who buy gaming equipment and resources primarily for children’s hospitals and a few similar settings.

When I was ten I was in the hospital for three weeks or so to get some liver ducts fixed and then waiting while the post-surgery pancreatitis went away. After the first five days mostly I felt okay, but getting jabbed with needles six times a day and some unfortunate hospital room arrangements had me in a bad mood. Someone had donated an Intellivision and a dozen or so games that could be used in front of the nurses’ station and while I can’t say it made me get better any faster but it probably meant I didn’t snarl at the nurses quite so much. That was decades before Child’s Play started up, but I was delighted to see someone carrying that torch in an organized fashion.

So I chip in one or two grand towards Desert Bus every year. To give back, yes, but also because the event is a great mental flossing where work and politics don’t matter so much. It’s streamed through Twitch, but you can watch it on their site and even if you do click over to the source feed they very strongly moderate their chat, better than anyone else in this size range I’ve encountered. Donations are through Paypal and go straight to the charity who claim a 94% passthrough rate. I strongly recommend checking it out, especially as we get into the evening and the rush of the last few hours.

(and grr, new page - probably won’t copy across since I don’t want to spam)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:03:46am

re: #505 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, the Secretary of the Air Force (or a member of her staff) just replied to me

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bd(soros funded)  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:04:29am

re: #507 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

lol/ blocked.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:07:02am

re: #469 Big Beautiful Door

January 20, 2017.

November 8, 1994.

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Scottish Dragon  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:09:41am

re: #499 William Lewis

Nah, I’ll go for this future instead:

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Traveller! That brings back game memories!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:15:17am

re: #508 bd(soros funded)

lol/ blocked.

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Not yet

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2018 • 11:15:28am

re: #501 A Mom Anon

More grocery stores than you realize do this to outdated food, especially perishable stuff. They say it’s to prevent someone from eating possibly spoiled food, which I get. But it’s also a stupid waste when you could call any number of soup kitchens or food pantries and they would be grateful for the donations. What was done in your link was fucking mean and hateful. What the hell is wrong with this country?

our local food pantry regularly gets out of date food from area grocery stores. Sometimes it’s gone off before we can distribute it, but even then we can sometimes use moldy bread or slightly icky fruit and veg for livestock feed.


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